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Coach Allen not making ‘wholesale’ changes; Goethel out for season

Several teams around the league have responded to subpar play this season by making changes among their assistant coaches. Raiders coach Dennis Allen doesn’t see the need to go that route.
Allen said Monday in his weekly news conference that the evaluation process for everyone is ongoing.
“I’m not going to stand up here and say we’re making wholesale changes,” Allen said. “We’re going to look at every aspect of what we do, offensively, defensively and the kicking game, and if we feel changes need to be made, we’ll make those changes.”
Allen said his team’s defensive play of late, in particular, has been disappointing. They get one issue fixed, then another issue surfaces.
On Sunday, it was the pass defense. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco passed for 341 yards and three touchdowns. A week earlier, the Buccaneers rushed for 278 yards and four touchdowns.
“It wasn’t like (the Ravens) ran the ball down our throats,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said. “If a guy is wide open, running down the middle of the field, most times that’s not a physical problem. It just means somebody’s not covering him.”
Several times, Flacco found receivers wide open as a result of blown coverages or players late responding.
Veteran defensive end Andre Carter said it takes time for players to jell in a new scheme. The next step is becoming consistent from play to play, game to game.
“There’s no doubt in our minds that we are a talented team,” Carter said, “but being talented and going out on the field and having a high level of productivity, a high level of execution for 60 minutes, is another thing. That’s the level that we’re trying to be on.”
Allen deemed the performance of his defense against Sunday “unacceptable.” The Raiders defense and special teams allowed 55 points to the Ravens and 97 the past two games.
“I would hope that they would all be on edge because we all should be on edge,” Allen said.
Allen has said that the Raiders are going to have to find a way to win with the players on their 53-man roster. With that said, there is enough talent defensively for the Raiders to succeed. Again, it comes down to consistency.
“We have to play at a high level on every single snap in every single game,” Allen said. “Just like anybody else in the NFL, if you don’t play consistently, you’re going to have the ups and downs like we’ve had. I don’t look at it as a talent issue.”

– The Raiders lost backup linebacker/long-snapper Travis Goethel to a left knee injury, Allen said. Goethel suffered his injury against the Ravens.
Goethel will be placed on season-ending injured-reserve at some point soon. Allen said he intends to take a look at free-agent linebackers in the coming days.
Cornerback Michael Huff (calf), strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck), tight end Brandon Myers (concussion) and free safety Matt Giordano (concussion) also suffered injuries against the Ravens.
Myers and Giordano are undergoing the league-mandated tests for players that suffer a concussion. They can’t return to practice or play in a game until they are cleared by the medical staff.
Allen said he expects Huff to recover from his injury in time to play against the Saints. Branch is undergoing tests to determine the extent of his neck injury.

– Rookie Tony Bergstrom played on offense Sunday for the first time this season. He played a handful of downs on special teams the first eight games.
Bergstrom replaced Willie Smith at right offensive tackle for 17 plays.
“He did OK,” Allen said of Bergstrom, the Raiders highest draft pick this year. “He showed some of his youth, especially playing the tackle position. But there were some things there that I felt like were encouraging about the way that he went out and played.”
Even so, Allen said he “anticipates” veteran Khalif Barnes starting against the Saints on Sunday.
Barnes started the first two games at right offensive tackle before he suffered a groin injury that required surgery. Barnes returned to practice last Wednesday.

– Rookie running back Jeremy Stewart went from the practice squad to the 53-man roster to seeing action in a game in one day after spending the first nine weeks waiting for an opportunity.
He rushed seven times for 22 yards, while second-year back Taiwan Jones carried only two times for 6 yards.

– Linebacker Aaron Curry played 15 snaps in his first game of the season. He missed all of training camp and the first eight regular-season games while recovering from sore knees.
Curry replaced rookie Miles Burris on those 15 plays, as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver sought to give Burris a rest after playing every snap in recent games.
Curry recorded one tackle. He also got nailed twice for personal-foul penalties.

– Carson Palmer tops the AFC with 2,723 yards passing through nine games. He is third overall, trailing the Saints Drew Brees and the Falcons Matt Ryan.
Palmer and Brees square off Sunday. Palmer is on pace for 4,841 yards, which would eclipse Rich Gannon’s franchise record (4,689, 2002).

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  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Good morning Mr. Prez and ODB.

  • DMAC

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

    ********************
    in the words of our GreenParty Prez….
    ok then fuk you guys !!
    ========

    Kind of fiesty this morning huh ODB
    lol
    What up brotheeeeeeeeerr!
    Shout out out to the vice prez O dog!!

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    puff puff pass…

  • Golden Haired Hero

    I said good morning to Mistic(post 1717), and he told me to kill myself(post 1727). Maybe it’s my screen name. I’ll go change it back and try again.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Green Party,

    We need a hamburger exchange program.
    We open In n Out in the east and get White Castle in the west.

  • DMAC

    Beat writer Steve Corkran considers Darren McFadden (ankle) and Mike Goodson (ankle) “long shots” to play in Week 11 versus the Saints.
    Coach Dennis Allen conceded that both backs will remain in question through the end of the week, holding out scant hope that one will heal quickly enough to play. Both backs remain in walking boots, however, which would seem to preclude a shot at cutting on the field by the weekend. We expect Marcel Reece to maintain top-20 fantasy value for Week 11.
    Related: Marcel Reece, Mike Goodson
    Source: Sporting News
    ================
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • LA to TheBay

    I’m sure Reg knew it was going to be a tough year. Retreads with ‘potential’ at CB who were injured or benched the year before, saddled with Huff at FS, no real presence in the middle, McA$$hole, Greg Knapp, a rookie HC and DC, releasing Kam and Routt due to cap issues, unable to get quality FAs (possible exception of Wheeler) due to said cap issues.

    My problem is more with coaching than GM. Reg had a LOT of BS to deal with. That being said, he did hire DA — who looks lost — who hired Knapp (who brought on Pollack), Tarver, and Hoffman.

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Al lost 10 games or more for what 7 years or whatever it was?

    Don’t remember any in-season press conferences, ever.
    =============================
    September 30th:

    “Davis called Kiffin “a flat-out liar” and said he was guilty of “bringing disgrace to the organization”.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    bcz24 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Necro isn’t even Latin you moron. Its Greek. The Latin for ‘dead’ is mortis. Everyone knows that negro MEANS black and it comes from the Latin root word Niger (which is obviously were the most commonly us racial slur came from)
    ==================

    idiot

    greek is hellinic, latin is italic

    BOTH WERE SPOKEN BY EDUCATED GREEKS AND ROMANS BOTH LANGUAGES BORROWED FROM ONE ANOTHER. just as so called greek culture and civilization (stolen and plagiarized and bastardized afrikan culture) gave rise to the roman empire

    Are black and death not associated together?

    WHY THEN DO WE WEAR BLACK AT FUNERALS? Think (if you have the capacity) Black is the color of death based on both of theses two backwards empires

    The languages and cultures overlapped

    It may do you good to separate the two, but it does us no good to do so.

    The greek and the roman are inseparable, spanish comes from latin

    actually the word ater or atra is the latin word for the color black, niger was specifically for people with black skin or shiny black

    study up and shut the fugg up

  • John David Booty

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    I had a Crazy idea that I’m sure is inaccurate but thought provoking:

    Did big Reg knowingly hire a lame duck coach this year so he could properly evaluate the talent and really decide who stays and goes in preperation for a big 2013?

    In 2013 is Mr.Mcckenzie going to hire a coach with credentials (Andy Reid for example) and have the new coach start his new tenure with a fighting chance with more draft picks, more cap room etc;

    Maybe Reg wanted to get his feet wet with a passive coach in 2012 who would be easy to scape goat?

    Remember it was Big Reg that was highly reccommended to Mark Davis by Madden, Wolf etc; (Davis has no obligation to Allen)
    —————————————
    Thought about this too, just trying to make sense of things and looking for some type of excuse. I wouldnt be happy with being fooled into believing that the goal was to win this season, but there would at least be a little relief in knowing that D.A, Knapp, and Tarver would all be gone after this year. At this point, Im HOPING this is the scenario.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Good morning, Mistic. Beautiful day to be a raider fan, don’t you think?

  • DMAC

    Raider O Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Green Party,

    We need a hamburger exchange program.
    We open In n Out in the east and get White Castle in the west.
    ===========

    Will the #3 come w/ a side order of greenery?

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    For your reading pleasure this morning, we’re proud to bring you the eminent linguistics/etymology authority Miss Tick.

  • SaintKaufman

    Morning y’all!

    Hey O, got 3 words for ya buddy.

    Washington, over, 21!!

    Can you say Home Depot??

  • MiamiRaider78

    Raider O Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:31 am
    Green Party,

    We need a hamburger exchange program.
    We open In n Out in the east and get White Castle in the west.
    _________

    In and Out would be nice but as a kid I use to really like Carls Jr. Western Bacon Double Cheeseburger! =) lol yum

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    My brother from another mother,

    No sir, but they should have a Green Menu. “Would you like glass or paper with that?”

  • LA to TheBay

    Thought about this too, just trying to make sense of things and looking for some type of excuse. I wouldnt be happy with being fooled into believing that the goal was to win this season, but there would at least be a little relief in knowing that D.A, Knapp, and Tarver would all be gone after this year. At this point, Im HOPING this is the scenario.

    —–

    Yeah, exactly.

    I suppose, naively, I figured D would be better by a good 10 spots and offense SHOULD have been as good or better but as soon as we hired Knapp, I knew we’d be going backwards.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    She’s not smarter than everyone else, just the white ones.

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic seems like a knowledgeable person , pretty sure half of the stuff he spews is straight outta his AH, but still seems like a smart guy , that’s why its even more frustrating to see him troll like this , why would a guy this much intelligent blame a QB after the D allows 55 points ?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    SaintKaufman Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Morning y’all!

    Hey O, got 3 words for ya buddy.

    Washington, over, 21!!

    Can you say Home Depot??
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Washington, over, and 21?!
    2 options: you just got back from Home Depot, or I need to smoke less in the mornings.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    I can accept DA wanting to go ZBS and I think he’s going to stick with that, just hopefully with a better ZBS OC. His team, his call, sink or swim. I do not understand the wholesale changes to the special teams. Why? So they would be ‘his’ special teams? Don’t get that move at all.

  • R8ER MIKE

    good morning Mr Prez. and Mr V.P. !!

  • Raider-in-PA

    Since I was unimpressed with the Pres canidates this time, I seriously considered pencilling in Tommy Chong. I’m not sure what his view is on abortion or what his foreign policy would be, but we DO know he would represent the Green Party in high fashion!!

    Plus his presidential addresses would be priceless!!…lol

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Raider O Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:31 am
    Green Party,

    We need a hamburger exchange program.
    We open In n Out in the east and get White Castle in the west.
    _________

    In and Out would be nice but as a kid I use to really like Carls Jr. Western Bacon Double Cheeseburger! =) lol yum
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Carl’s jr is Hardee’s in the east, but I’m not sure if they have the same menu with different names.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    mcfadden20. Says: Mistic seems like a knowledgeable person , pretty sure half of the stuff he spews is straight outta his AH, but still seems like a smart guy , that’s why its even more frustrating to see him troll like this , why would a guy this much intelligent blame a QB after the D allows 55 points ?=================

    That’s easy. He’s not smart. He’s an idiot with verbal diarrhea.

  • DMAC

    Brother from another mother.

    How about selling a new high tech cannabis fiber “Sham Wow”?
    We would make a killing.
    lol

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    1733.Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
    newton only posted the greatest rookie season in the 90 plus year history if the nfl

    *******************

    I thought it was all about W-L for a QB? He didn’t have as good a year as Dalton, and isn’t haveing one now. Andy Dalton is a better QB than Newton. Deal with it.

    Best rookie year in 90 years, lol? On what passing yards? So is Palmer having the best sason in the AFC since he is leading the league?

    Your double-talk is so transparent.

    Cam Newton = 8-17 = colossal BUST

    Just give it up with Mistic. He’s an admitted black nationalist and white hater. You can’t take any of his analysis as credible.

    Read some of his posts where he talks about his admiration for the great white killers of old.
    ==================

    Johhny

    i have never “admited to being a hater of whites”

    i do hate white supremacy

    You dont get to decide who black people look up to as heros

    nat turner is a hero of mine, i celebrate his birthday every year.

    nat turner killed white slave owners and set black people free in an act of revolution.

    This makes him heroic for black people as he spilled blood for our freedom, that is how freedom is won

    If you get to call washington (biggest slave owner in amerikkka of his time and murderer of blacks) a hero, then i can have nat turner

    I dont care if you disapprove, free men think for themselves

    this has nothing to do with football fool

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    But that’s just my opinion.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Anybody else get a big laugh from Cork’s claiming on yesterday’s chat that no racist comments are allowed on this blog?

  • R8ER MIKE

    what we need on the east coast is a DelTaco !!
    taco bell just sucks !!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I miss White Castle, Mark PI’s (gang pang shrimp), and the Waffle House.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “I suppose, naively, I figured D would be better by a good 10 spots and offense SHOULD have been as good or better but as soon as we hired Knapp, I knew we’d be going backwards.”

    Remember the articles about now that Al Davis old scheme is gone we will have a top 5 Defense now and blah blah

    How about this….Tom Cable (who basically has a similar IQ as a member of the Honey Boo Boo cast) is a better coach than DA!!!

    I would have never thought that but its happening!

  • mcfadden20.

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    I can accept DA wanting to go ZBS and I think he’s going to stick with that, just hopefully with a better ZBS OC. His team, his call, sink or swim. I do not understand the wholesale changes to the special teams. Why? So they would be ‘his’ special teams? Don’t get that move at all.

    —-

    I like ZBS , seems like the guys are just not picking it up very fast and the coordinator is not as smart as other o.COs , so new Offensive coordinator next year to go with a few better O linemen , # 1 WR and durable RB made for ZBS

  • DMAC

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    what we need on the east coast is a DelTaco !!
    taco bell just sucks !!
    ======

    ODB
    Do you guys have a taco/burrito truck out there in da streetz?

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “(gang pang shrimp)”

    Is that a Porno or a dish?

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    If AD were alive there would be an overhead projector presser scheduled for 1pm this afternoon.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    DMAC Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    Brother from another mother.

    How about selling a new high tech cannabis fiber “Sham Wow”?
    We would make a killing.
    lol
    $$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    I don’t know bro. I think that’s a law suit waiting to happen. Some monkey will try to smoke it (myself included).

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Careful guys. KK doesn’t approve of hamburger discussions.
    KoolKell Says:
    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 13th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    No effin’ pickles!! I fkin hate pickles. Don’t think they’re on the menu at In’n’Out!
    ———————
    Fascinating convo. (Not)

  • DMAC

    I don’t think DA is an awful coach, but
    I do think he made awful hiring decisions of his staff!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    newton only posted the greatest rookie season in the 90 plus year history if the nfl

    *******************

    I thought it was all about W-L for a QB? He didn’t have as good a year as Dalton, and isn’t haveing one now. Andy Dalton is a better QB than Newton. Deal with it.

    Best rookie year in 90 years, lol? On what passing yards? So is Palmer having the best sason in the AFC since he is leading the league?

    ============

    dont be an idiot here is a list of cams rookie accomplishments including yardage totals

    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051)
    • First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
    • First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
    • Fourth rookie quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards in a season.
    • Third most pass TDs (21) in a rookie season.
    • Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush)
    • Most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
    • Most rushing touchdowns by a rookie quarterback: 14
    • Along with Andy Dalton, the two make the first pair of rookie QB’s to make the Pro Bowl

    The td records are of course the most impressive

    greatest rookie qb season of all time

  • MiamiRaider78

    Taco Bell=Guaranteed upset stomach or the squirts.

    I WANT A ROSCOS CHICKEN AND WAFFLES IN MIAMI!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Whats a Drexl? Says: If AD were alive there would be an overhead projector presser scheduled for 1pm this afternoon.=====================================

    And some nervous coaches.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    what we need on the east coast is a DelTaco !!
    taco bell just sucks !!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You need Rubios with $1.50 fish tacos on Tuesdays.

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    asshat sya what? ^^^^^^^^

  • DMAC

    Raider O Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    Brother from another mother.

    How about selling a new high tech cannabis fiber “Sham Wow”?
    We would make a killing.
    lol
    $$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    I don’t know bro. I think that’s a law suit waiting to happen. Some monkey will try to smoke it (myself included).
    ========

    The name would be changed to “Green Wow”

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Lawsuit*

  • DMAC

    What up Drex???
    Long time no see.
    You still b hittin up the games?

  • SaintKaufman

    DMAC Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    I don’t think DA is an awful coach, but
    I do think he made awful hiring decisions of his staff!

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This seems to be accurate. We’ve got more youth and inexperience at the coaching ‘position’ then we do on the field!

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “That’s easy. He’s not smart. He’s an idiot with verbal diarrhea.”

    I have to agree with this 100%

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    DMAC Says: Do you guys have a taco/burrito truck out there in da streetz?==============================

    Used to go track them down late night in SoCal. No such luck up here in the foothills.