Grading the Raiders from Ravens game
By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 12th, 2012 at 12:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here is how beat writer Jerry McDonald graded the Raiders (3-6) on their performance in a 55-20 loss to the Baltimore Ravens (7-2) on Sunday:
Pass offense
Another prolific stat game for Carson Palmer (29 of 45, 368 yards, 2 TDs). He had a 55-yard touchdown pass to Darrius Heyward-Bey and one of 30 yards to Denarius Moore, and he kept the Raiders moving the ball. But there was also an interception, a lost fumble and another fourth-and-1 where he got stepped on by Mike Brisiel and took a 4-yard sack.
Grade: B
Run offense
Marcel Reece rushed a career-high 13 times for 48 yards, with Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson out with high-ankle sprains. Rookie Jeremy Stewart ran seven times for 22 yards, and the coaching staff has very little confidence in Taiwan Jones. Raiders had no gain of more than 9 yards and averaged 3 yards per carry.
Grade: D-minus
Pass defense
Joe Flacco (21 of 33, 341 yards, 3 TDs, 1 interception) did as he pleased and found the wide open spaces between the hash marks. Michael Huff had an interception at the Baltimore 19, but the offense only got a field goal out of it. Torrey Smith caught touchdown passes of 20 and 47 yards and tight ends Dennis Pitta and Ed Dickson had seven catches for 126 yards.
Grade: F
Run defense
The Raiders took the Doug Martin lesson of the previous week to heart as Ray Rice gained just 35 yards in 13 carries with a long run of 7 yards. Not until Bernard Pierce had a 12-yard run in the second half did Baltimore get a running play in double figures. They gave ground way to easily on Rice’s 7-yard touchdown run.
Grade: B
Special teams
A muffed punt by Phillip Adams led to a Baltimore touchdown and Jacoby Jones ripped off a 105-yard kickoff return to finish the scoring. Sebastian Janikowski converted field goal attempts from 22 and 47 yards and Shane Lechler punted well with a 54.8 yard gross and a 47.6 net.
Grade: D-minus
Coaching
The Raiders secondary looked as if it had never played together before as Flacco passed at will. The Raiders were fooled by a Ravens fake field-goal attempt that resulted in a 7-yard touchdown run by holder Sam Koch. Coming into a difficult road venue, the Raiders didn’t have the look of a team that was prepared to play, and coach Dennis Allen said the responsibility lies with him.
Grade: F
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November 12th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
palmer holds the ball too long.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mystic1 thinks that the white man has a conspiracy that keeps black QB’s from winning Super Bowls.
I hope one day he realizes that Doug Williams was a pocket passer not a running “athletic” QB like the ones Mystic1 drools over.
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actaully willaims was a mobile qb, by the time he played for the redskins he was old and could no longer move like he used to
please show me where i claimed
‘that the white man has a conspiracy that keeps black QB’s from winning Super Bowls.”
dont lie on me its weak’
again do you have any football takes?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Yeah right your a real Einstein!
November 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
for a tall guy palmer has a ton of balls batted down
November 12th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
palmer throws a terrible deep ball.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
but palmer’s not the problem
November 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.
Why not have QB’s in the NFL act like RB’s like a college team does?
DUH it wont work pal this is a passing league running QB’s are for college and they will stay there!
You are not only a racist you are a bitter person with a deep seeded hate for white QB’s
November 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
SB winning coaches and their records in the first year of their coaching career
—–
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Just list of some of Hall of Fame Coaches and future HOF coaches and how they did in their first years
November 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
No Mas Brain cells left then just who should be back there playing QB for us right now?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
palmer throws a terrible deep ball.
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he isnt much better throwing short
all of palmers 9 picks this year have come on passes 20 yards or less
November 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
When you hear Phil Simms or Dan Fouts or Kurt Warner talk about how great of a job Palmer is doing this year under these circumstances it makes sense….But then I read Mystic1 post and I get confused and I just don’t know who to believe guys can you help me out here?
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you should believe Mistic , his track record is great, Jamarcus russel , jason campbell, Cam Newton and others
November 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s
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see how you divide players qbs specifically according to race?
yet you cant produce anything that i have written that says im a racist
this is too easy
question why does the race of the qb mean so much to you?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
“palmer throws a terrible deep ball.”
Not only are you slow and probably inbred but you are blind as well.
Poor b@stard…anyways you didn’t see the TD pass to D Moore?
Let me cue it up for you little brained guy…
November 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I love iot when the trolls band together behind lies
maccrackhead20
where did i defend jamrcuss?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Ignore the Mustard super troll
November 12th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
“you should believe Mistic , his track record is great, Jamarcus russel , jason campbell, Cam Newton and others
Thank you I was so lost!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
LOL, they actually graded that game.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
1.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
palmer holds the ball too long.
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HAHAHAHA… the comic relief in here has been a pleasant surprise today. Hahaha… holds the ball too long… 2.57 seconds from snap to first contact, but Palmer is holding the ball too long.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Mistake the super crack head — please explain whats wrong with Newton? sophomore slump?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Mistic must be so mad at Cork , he gave Pass O the only passing grade lol
November 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
You are not only a racist you are a bitter person with a deep seeded hate for white QB’s
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then why am i a fan of manning joe montana and arron rodgers?
please produce some proof or just continue to expose your self as a liar
November 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Palmer doesn’t have a lot of choice but to hold on to the ball…. The WRs aren’t getting open…. I’m watching right now and A Raven Cb is draped allover the WRs on just about every play…the Raven CBs played very good yesterday
November 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I agree with Jerry’s grades on the team…
November 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Mistakes all over – please explain what happened to JC ,how come he couldn’t even lead team to 1 TD with Forte, and Marshall to throw too?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Take a look at this little slow guy you see we have a WR #17 he is real fast and Palmer hits him in stride kind with the prettiest deep ball you have ever seen….its what the Chicago fans were expecting yesterday but never got from JC…http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012111104/2012/REG10/raiders@ravens#menu=highlights&tab=recap
November 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mistic,
After the minicamp of 2010, you came on here and told us all how we were going to be wrong on Jamarcus, blah blah blah.
You don’t remember me 2 months ago posting the link and your comments? I know you do.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
You are not only a racist you are a bitter person with a deep seeded hate for white QB’s
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then why am i a fan of manning joe montana and arron rodgers?
please produce some proof or just continue to expose your self as a liar
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Mustbesuperdumb = that’s because they are not playing for the Raiders right now , we’re pretty sure you would of have had something to say about them too if they were on this team
November 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
exactly as i thought
without football takes to back up their claims of defending palmer the trolls resort to thier usual tactics of distraction
Without any tangible proof of me being a racist the use repetition and lying as their propaganda machine
name calling, and talking about other qbs is their only defense
SB666 AND MACDICHEAD20 ARE CLEARLY THE WORST POSTERS ON THE BOARD
BECAUSE THEIR IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEIR CALIMS
November 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mistic,
After the minicamp of 2010, you came on here and told us all how we were going to be wrong on Jamarcus, blah blah blah.
You don’t remember me 2 months ago posting the link and your comments? I know you do.
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that is why Mistakenf0raRaidersfan is super a troll
November 12th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I defended Russell till I felt stupid doing so… Always wanted the guy to win… He just didn’t want to put the work on… I think we all agree Russell had the Talent?.. Didn’t we?..I even bought his jersey when we drafted him… I was stoked
November 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
exactly as i thought
without football takes to back up their claims of defending palmer the trolls resort to thier usual tactics of distraction
Without any tangible proof of me being a racist the use repetition and lying as their propaganda machine
name calling, and talking about other qbs is their only defense
SB666 AND MACDICHEAD20 ARE CLEARLY THE WORST POSTERS ON THE BOARD
BECAUSE THEIR IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEIR CALIMS
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Name calling???? SOrry did you really say name calling ? do you have like short term memory or what? do you want me to pull up all the posts where you called me by mcidiot and other names? when i was mentioning you by Mistic
November 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I doubt Palmer is excited to be a raider at this point, they fired the coach that brought him here, hire a bun OC ,and lose all the momentum they had built up from last year, and put him into a scheme that doesnt fit him his oline or rb. And this is a guy who wanted out of cin because he didnt feel the org was going in the right direction, I can imagine how he feels now, even though he will just toe the company line. And its really ashame because we finally get a qb and we waste his talent with Knapp and his scheme, all I can remember is Carson in Hues O in the SD game looking just as good as Brady or anybody else but instead of building on that we go backwards and its very frustrating to me, so I know its frustrating to Palmer
November 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
lol @ talking about other qb’s ? no body does that more than Mistakenlittlefag
November 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Watching Moore play… I think he’s still gonna be ok..
November 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mistic,
After the minicamp of 2010, you came on here and told us all how we were going to be wrong on Jamarcus, blah blah blah.
You don’t remember me 2 months ago posting the link and your comments? I know you do.
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Then a few weeks later i saw no.2 smoking weed outside of the club the night before the game, and was off the band wagon
Just as you have taken a complete 180 about face with palmer
I have ripped him ever since then.
besides palmer is almost as bad as jamarcuss take a look
jr 7-18 38 turnovers
cp 7-12 31 turnovers
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Eastoak… Agree..
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Dennis Allen is in over his head.
He has never been a head coach before.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
plop
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I doubt Palmer is excited to be a raider at this point, they fired the coach that brought him here, hire a bun OC ,and lose all the momentum they had built up from last year, and put him into a scheme that doesnt fit him his oline or rb. And this is a guy who wanted out of cin because he didnt feel the org was going in the right direction, I can imagine how he feels now, even though he will just toe the company line. And its really ashame because we finally get a qb and we waste his talent with Knapp and his scheme, all I can remember is Carson in Hues O in the SD game looking just as good as Brady or anybody else but instead of building on that we go backwards and its very frustrating to me, so I know its frustrating to Palmer
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Doesn’t seem to have problems, he could lead them to TD”s when Knapps play calling is not predictable and Line is giving him time
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again. Raiders should have never have made that Palmer trade wasnt worth it to a bad team. Palmer is not gonna take u over the hump no matter how good he is. To many holes.
Should have use that 1st traded out and got more picks. Picked up a young guy like Russell wilson who has 14tds on the year.. and rebuilt. Reggie and the scouts were in love with wilson at senior bowl. Not to mention it would save picks and save money.. paying 13 million this year and 15 million next year to palmer. COuld use that on FA’s
Reggie should have also hired an expereinced head coach like Greg Shiano.. not some Portland State wannabe chump in D.A.
Asking PALMER to throw it 61 times a game is a joke.. being ranked 31th in rushing when we have been top 5 rushing the last two years is a joke.
Using Marcel Reece as a Running back is a joke.. not using him at all the way he should be used.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
McFadden expected to return next week.. Ok…
November 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Raiders allday … Can’t disagree..
November 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Here is my football related proof that you asked for:
http://media.957thegame.com/a/65603835/kurt-warner-grades-the-bay-area-quarterbacks.htm
November 12th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
lol the plamer worshipers are scrambling
peace nation let the count down to tp6 begin
November 12th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
SB winning coaches and their first year records
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
November 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
“Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I doubt Palmer is excited to be a raider at this point, they fired the coach that brought him here, hire a bun OC ,and lose all the momentum they had built up from last year, and put him into a scheme that doesnt fit him his oline or rb. And this is a guy who wanted out of cin because he didnt feel the org was going in the right direction, I can imagine how he feels now, even though he will just toe the company line. And its really ashame because we finally get a qb and we waste his talent with Knapp and his scheme, all I can remember is Carson in Hues O in the SD game looking just as good as Brady or anybody else but instead of building on that we go backwards and its very frustrating to me, so I know its frustrating to Palmer”
GREAT POST!!!!!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I like Palmer… But he’s not a good fit with this team…. No Qb could thrive on this team as it stands
November 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Here is my football related proof that you asked for:
http://media.957thegame.com/a/65603835/kurt-warner-grades-the-bay-area-quarterbacks.htm
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opinion is not proof
i asked for proof that i ma a racist
i showed proof that you and mac20 are racist
November 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I can’t wait until TP6 does finally start a game against real NFL talent. Then I can run around here like Mistic all day and point out how sh1tty he is… the only difference is I will be right.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
lol the plamer worshipers are scrambling
peace nation let the count down to tp6 begin
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Wouldn’t you just love that , wouldn’t you just love TP to start every game and make excuses for going 0-16 every year, then you can come in here making excuses all over the board for him
November 12th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
“Reggie should have also hired an expereinced head coach like Greg Shiano.. not some Portland State wannabe chump in D.A.
Asking PALMER to throw it 61 times a game is a joke.. being ranked 31th in rushing when we have been top 5 rushing the last two years is a joke.
Using Marcel Reece as a Running back is a joke.. not using him at all the way he should be used.”
I agree 100% here
November 12th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
SB winning coaches and their records in the first year of their coaching career
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Just list of some of Hall of Fame Coaches and future HOF coaches and how they did in their first years
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Who cares & what’s that got to do with us? Putting HOF, coach & current Raider staff in the same sentence or thought pattern is ludicrous. To date, it’s questionable that they should even be coaches in the NFL. Or, UFL for that matter too. I’ve seen no evidence that DA has any special powers or skills. Hell, he doesn’t even have a cape!
November 12th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Just watched a 105 yrd run back aginst the Raider special teams… Not even touched…. Again… Palmer wasn’t on the field..
November 12th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Here is my football related proof that you asked for:
http://media.957thegame.com/a/65603835/kurt-warner-grades-the-bay-area-quarterbacks.htm
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opinion is not proof
i asked for proof that i ma a racist
i showed proof that you and mac20 are racist
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You don’t want to be objective about Palmer because you hate him , yet you make excuses for all the black qb’s
we don’t need to know more to know that your a racist
November 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
“i showed proof that you and mac20 are racist”
I could care less what a bunch of demented retards on a blog think about me so yeah go ahead and label me a racist I will embrace it if you say its so!
November 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
SB winning coaches and their records in the first year of their coaching career
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Just list of some of Hall of Fame Coaches and future HOF coaches and how they did in their first years
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Who cares & what’s that got to do with us? Putting HOF, coach & current Raider staff in the same sentence or thought pattern is ludicrous. To date, it’s questionable that they should even be coaches in the NFL. Or, UFL for that matter too. I’ve seen no evidence that DA has any special powers or skills. Hell, he doesn’t even have a cape!
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Just saying , had their respective teams fans wanted them out after first years, they would have never won those champs
November 12th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
It’s quite fun to see Mistic’s rants even Cork gave the passing game B lol
November 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Mistic will pop up again with his other troll ID
November 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I never worry about Davis over paying, because some times he gets it right and its beautiful. Also it keeps the silver and black and attractive destination for players.
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Oh boy! This right here proves your football IQ is pitiful. Al’s overpaying has left us in the nice mess we are in now. With all your Palmer bashing, it makes me forget that you are an Al loyalist. I wonder if you would hate on Palmer so much if he was one of Al’s guys.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Missdick posts constantly about black qb’s and how bad Palmer is. But he never says “black”. That way he can turn it around and say we are the ones obsessed with race. It’s obvious what he’s trying to do. He’s not a raider fan. Just trying to fuk up the board. IGNORE MISTIC AT ALL COSTS! He is to receive the SILENT TREATMENT.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
The season was lost when HUE JAX was fired.
HUE JAX Rookie HC
- No offesean due to lockout
- Owner passes away
_ NO GM to help him out like Reggie does for D.A.
- No OC.. he is the damn OC, Stuck with a DCORD he doesnt want
- DMAC is done for the season, Starting Qb done for season by week 7
- JFORD, DMOORE injured in crucial stretch of season..
Yet still goes 8-8
November 12th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Palmer is Great Ex QB’s who have played the game at a high level aeven say so….why would they lie to us when they know their opinion differs from that of Mystic1 all knowing?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again. Raiders should have never have made that Palmer trade wasnt worth it to a bad team. Palmer is not gonna take u over the hump no matter how good he is. To many holes.
Should have use that 1st traded out and got more picks. Picked up a young guy like Russell wilson who has 14tds on the year.. and rebuilt. Reggie and the scouts were in love with wilson at senior bowl. Not to mention it would save picks and save money.. paying 13 million this year and 15 million next year to palmer. COuld use that on FA’s
Reggie should have also hired an expereinced head coach like Greg Shiano.. not some Portland State wannabe chump in D.A.
Asking PALMER to throw it 61 times a game is a joke.. being ranked 31th in rushing when we have been top 5 rushing the last two years is a joke.
Using Marcel Reece as a Running back is a joke.. not using him at all the way he should be used.
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the trade would be a great one if Hue was still here, the O was on its way to being elite and we could hve just tinkered with thr oline a bit and concentrated on the D. IMO with Hue here we are a playoff team now based on how we played last year and the circumstaces of last year(no offseason, carson off the couch,etc etc)
November 12th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I never worry about Davis over paying, because some times he gets it right and its beautiful. Also it keeps the silver and black and attractive destination for players.
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Oh boy! This right here proves your football IQ is pitiful. Al’s overpaying has left us in the nice mess we are in now. With all your Palmer bashing, it makes me forget that you are an Al loyalist. I wonder if you would hate on Palmer so much if he was one of Al’s guys.
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Or if he was black
November 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
“i showed proof that you and mac20 are racist”
I could care less what a bunch of demented retards on a blog think about me so yeah go ahead and label me a racist I will embrace it if you say its so!
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i dont have to call you anything you showed your true feelings by dividing qbs according to race, just like 90% of the posters here.
qb is the only position that you care about the racial make up of the player.
JFB, BCZ24, mac20 and you have all been exposed in here by me for racist post at one time or another.
i have done this using your own post, on the other hand you simply accuse me with no proof
im not surprised black people only make up less than 15 % of the population in amerikkka so we will always be under attack from our white counter parts.
even when it come to something as meaningless as sports
November 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
“Aside from getting blown out again, Oakland is facing a brutal situation with running back Darren McFadden, who was unable to play Sunday because of a sprained ankle. McFadden is expected to be back next week, but is not having anything close to the performance he had in 2010, when he averaged 5.3 yards per carry. He is set to be a free agent after the 2013 season. McFadden is averaging only 3.3 yards this season because the Raiders have primarily played a zone-blocking system that simply doesn’t work for him. Two weeks ago, McFadden, at the urging of owner Mark Davis, talked to the coaches about the situation, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. The coaches went back to a more favorable system and McFadden responded with 114 yards against Kansas City before getting hurt the next game against Tampa Bay. If the Raiders are going to maximize McFadden’s ability, they need to change the offense. If not, they would be better off trading him in the offseason.”
Jason cole report
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–week-10-winners-losers–source-expects-eagles-to-stick-with-andy-reid-despite-five-game-losing-streak.html
November 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
It sure is nice to have a good qb. Our record setting golden haired hero is on pace for nearly 5k yards and 30 Tds. Best raider qb of all time!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
palmer throws a terrible deep ball and missed several ope recievers. drops dont help. but palmer is not great anymore. he really never was.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
The season was lost when HUE JAX was fired.
HUE JAX Rookie HC
- No offesean due to lockout
- Owner passes away
_ NO GM to help him out like Reggie does for D.A.
- No OC.. he is the damn OC, Stuck with a DCORD he doesnt want
- DMAC is done for the season, Starting Qb done for season by week 7
- JFORD, DMOORE injured in crucial stretch of season..
Yet still goes 8-8
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all teams didn’t had full camp , he went 4-2 first 6, all could have been result of other teams not gelling as well as they wanted earlier in the season, but i really doubt, Jason would have won without Mcfadden’s run game
November 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
“IGNORE MISTIC AT ALL COSTS! He is to receive the SILENT TREATMENT.”
I can do that starting now!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hey Mistic we don’t care what a troll like you think of us
November 12th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I never worry about Davis over paying, because some times he gets it right and its beautiful. Also it keeps the silver and black and attractive destination for players.
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Oh boy! This right here proves your football IQ is pitiful. Al’s overpaying has left us in the nice mess we are in now. With all your Palmer bashing, it makes me forget that you are an Al loyalist. I wonder if you would hate on Palmer so much if he was one of Al’s guys.
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lol jc was al’s guy
I LOVED AL DAVIS HE GAVE OAKLAND 3 SUPERBOWL WINS
November 12th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
“IGNORE MISTIC AT ALL COSTS! He is to receive the SILENT TREATMENT.”
I can do that starting now!
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Me too
November 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
fingers Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I agree with Jerry’s grades on the team…
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Not me! F on Special Teams. On the 105 yard TD run back, the runner was not even “touched”. To make matters worse, his blockers was not even “touched”. That’s TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. we should be “touching” Steve Hoffman to the extent of kicking his worthless incompetent a$$ off the team and out of the building. The Jags just fired their ST Coordinator. You’d think DA could take a hint and follow suit.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
The season was lost when HUE JAX was fired.
HUE JAX Rookie HC
- No offesean due to lockout
- Owner passes away
_ NO GM to help him out like Reggie does for D.A.
- No OC.. he is the damn OC, Stuck with a DCORD he doesnt want
- DMAC is done for the season, Starting Qb done for season by week 7
- JFORD, DMOORE injured in crucial stretch of season..
Yet still goes 8-8
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I dont see why the Nation wasnt outraged over this, the man coached his ass off, and was passionate about winning and we jut cut him loose after 1 season? just dumb and now we are getting what we deserve.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Did anyone read that article. DMAC was crying to MARK DAVIS about the ZBS.. Mark has to be pissed.
But its also Marks fault he fired HUE.. well it doesnt matter who fired hue.. that necca is gone and he shoudnt be.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Nation wasn’t outraged because the guy went 1-4 in his final 5 games, who cares if he’s going to win the first 7 games but goes 1-8 rest of the way when the games matter
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I do think it is very telling that ppalmer apologist point to carsons yardage totals as evidence of him being the answer at qb.
Yet when faced with these stats they qucikly resort to name calling , accusations of racism and personal insults
jr 7-18 38 turnovers 3 season
cp 7-12 31 turnovers 1.5 seasons
jc 12-7 18 turnovers 2 season first in the afc west
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Teams with the Raiders on their schedule are just expecting the Raiders to implode now… Gonna have to earn some respect back.. Its still stupid , stupid penalties …Right now they’re just a bad joke…
Real tough to wear Raider gear right now…
November 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Did anyone read that article. DMAC was crying to MARK DAVIS about the ZBS.. Mark has to be pissed.
But its also Marks fault he fired HUE.. well it doesnt matter who fired hue.. that necca is gone and he shoudnt be.
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DMAC doesn’t even matter, the guy needs to stay healthy for half the season before he gets to say anything
November 12th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
“Aside from getting blown out again, Oakland is facing a brutal situation with running back Darren McFadden, who was unable to play Sunday because of a sprained ankle. McFadden is expected to be back next week, but is not having anything close to the performance he had in 2010, when he averaged 5.3 yards per carry. He is set to be a free agent after the 2013 season. McFadden is averaging only 3.3 yards this season because the Raiders have primarily played a zone-blocking system that simply doesn’t work for him. Two weeks ago, McFadden, at the urging of owner Mark Davis, talked to the coaches about the situation, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. The coaches went back to a more favorable system and McFadden responded with 114 yards against Kansas City before getting hurt the next game against Tampa Bay. If the Raiders are going to maximize McFadden’s ability, they need to change the offense. If not, they would be better off trading him in the offseason.”
Jason cole report
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somebody with some fckn common sense, thats refreshing.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
1-4? last four games.. but that DETROIT game was won.. enough points to win.
That San Diego game should have been won last game of season. NO DMAC, NO DMOORE, N NO FORD entering most of the end of season.
The defense never looked that bad it did these past two weeks. HUE JAX never got to pick his coaching staff. Players were playing hard. DA. picks everything.. still has GM and looks outclassed
November 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
When the D is all time bad, you need to begin there, forget about the O, whiners are winning with a guy , who would have been holding clips like JC if it wasn’t for the D
November 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Mistic… Your obsessed dude… Your blame Palmer of the Beer vendor spilled beer in the 2nd deck..,…it’s not about Football with you… Couldn’t be…
November 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Just not enough skill and manpower at LB and secondary.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
1-4? last four games.. but that DETROIT game was won.. enough points to win.
That San Diego game should have been won last game of season. NO DMAC, NO DMOORE, N NO FORD entering most of the end of season.
The defense never looked that bad it did these past two weeks. HUE JAX never got to pick his coaching staff. Players were playing hard. DA. picks everything.. still has GM and looks outclassed
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Hue couldn’t fire Bresh because AL was alive , but why didn’t he fire him after AL D died, did he forget 24-3 Buffalo debacle?> Hue was the coach , and i don’t care if it was the D , that was the 15th and 17th games of the year, your team should improve, he talked about fixing penalties all year then went on to set a new record , – i wouldn’t want that kinda coach on my team, no thanks , and the league agree’s with me as well , which is why he’s a junior assistant at some special teams position
November 12th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
In the end DA is not gonna be any better then Lance Kiffin. Especially with trust KNAPP by his side.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Nation wasn’t outraged because the guy went 1-4 in his final 5 games, who cares if he’s going to win the first 7 games but goes 1-8 rest of the way when the games matter
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I dont expect you to be outraged for obvious reasons.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
What DCORD are you gonna get mid season? think about it. Think about it long and hard?? ok
November 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Just watched another huge run back aginst the Raider special team…. Just can’t tackle…
November 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
“Aside from getting blown out again, Oakland is facing a brutal situation with running back Darren McFadden, who was unable to play Sunday because of a sprained ankle. McFadden is expected to be back next week, but is not having anything close to the performance he had in 2010, when he averaged 5.3 yards per carry. He is set to be a free agent after the 2013 season. McFadden is averaging only 3.3 yards this season because the Raiders have primarily played a zone-blocking system that simply doesn’t work for him. Two weeks ago, McFadden, at the urging of owner Mark Davis, talked to the coaches about the situation, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. The coaches went back to a more favorable system and McFadden responded with 114 yards against Kansas City before getting hurt the next game against Tampa Bay. If the Raiders are going to maximize McFadden’s ability, they need to change the offense. If not, they would be better off trading him in the offseason.”
Jason cole report
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–week-10-winners-losers–source-expects-eagles-to-stick-with-andy-reid-despite-five-game-losing-streak.html
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i think this speaks volumes about the miserable failure that dennis allen has been.
head coach should never waiver and should stick to his guns on the system he believes in.
How can player trust such an easily swayed coach, cable suffered for the same lack of back bone.
flip flopping in week 6-7 of the season? wow
November 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
What DCORD are you gonna get mid season? think about it. Think about it long and hard?? ok
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it’s not about getting a new D.co , you can replace him with some one on the coaching staff, matter of the fact is he s8cked , his so called excited offense s8cked when it really mattered, i don’t know why you hue Nutt huggers are so upset about him, you don’t belong in the NFL if you go 1-4 in the final 5 games
November 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
1-4? last four games.. but that DETROIT game was won.. enough points to win.
That San Diego game should have been won last game of season. NO DMAC, NO DMOORE, N NO FORD entering most of the end of season.
The defense never looked that bad it did these past two weeks. HUE JAX never got to pick his coaching staff. Players were playing hard. DA. picks everything.. still has GM and looks outclassed
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Hue couldn’t fire Bresh because AL was alive , but why didn’t he fire him after AL D died, did he forget 24-3 Buffalo debacle?> Hue was the coach , and i don’t care if it was the D , that was the 15th and 17th games of the year, your team should improve, he talked about fixing penalties all year then went on to set a new record , – i wouldn’t want that kinda coach on my team, no thanks , and the league agree’s with me as well , which is why he’s a junior assistant at some special teams position
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ALLDAY dont bother with mcfadden20 trust me its like talking to a brick wall.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I don’t ever remember those good Raider teams having so much trouble winning in the eastern time zone… They could play anywhere at anytime …
November 12th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Nation wasn’t outraged because the guy went 1-4 in his final 5 games, who cares if he’s going to win the first 7 games but goes 1-8 rest of the way when the games matter
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I dont expect you to be outraged for obvious reasons.
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I kinda liked hue and his O and wanted him 2 get a second chance with new D.co but i would support any decision the organization makes, and when you think about going 1-4 in last 5 games and always being outcoaches in 2nd half of games , then i don’t think the guy is a head coaching material
November 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Hue is not even an assistant coach at some position, if it wasn’t for AL , he wouldn’t have gotten a chance to be the head coach , when you go 1-4 when the games count , that’s whats really telling about you , that you can’t coach these guys to playoffs, or to playoff wins
November 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
i think this speaks volumes about the miserable failure that dennis allen has been.
head coach should never waiver and should stick to his guns on the system he believes in.
How can player trust such an easily swayed coach, cable suffered for the same lack of back bone.
flip flopping in week 6-7 of the season? wow
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So you rag on DA all season long for not changing blocking schemes, and then rag on him when he finally does?
Gotcha.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
you don’t belong in the NFL if you go 1-4 in the final 5 games
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guess all those coaches you named that struggled in their fist seasons didnt belong either, once again great logic by mcdummy20
November 12th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
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ALLDAY dont bother with mcfadden20 trust me its like talking to a brick wall.
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i hear ya.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
i think this speaks volumes about the miserable failure that dennis allen has been.
head coach should never waiver and should stick to his guns on the system he believes in.
How can player trust such an easily swayed coach, cable suffered for the same lack of back bone.
flip flopping in week 6-7 of the season? wow
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So you rag on DA all season long for not changing blocking schemes, and then rag on him when he finally does?
Gotcha.
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Just ignore the idiot , he’s a troll , along with Raiders all day and eastoaklnad
November 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Hue couldn’t fire Bresh because AL was alive , but why didn’t he fire him after AL D died, did he forget 24-3 Buffalo debacle?> Hue was the coach , and i don’t care if it was the D , that was the 15th and 17th games of the year, your team should improve, he talked about fixing penalties all year then went on to set a new record , – i wouldn’t want that kinda coach on my team, no thanks , and the league agree’s with me as well , which is why he’s a junior assistant at some special teams position
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Finally, a good post by McFadden 20. Quit wasting yours & our time on trying to do battle with Mistic & post more thoughts like this. IMO, you are 100% correct on this point. I too wondered why Hujack didn’t fire Bresnahan after AD passed. Had he done that he still might be here. Oh well, that’s past history.
Now, if only DA would grow a pair and start firing some of his bad picks. Somehow I don’t see that happening. That’s why his future is in question. He’s indecisive. He has the power but obviously not the will.
Parting thought to McFadden20. Don’t become the troll you seem to be chasing. Recently you’ve become very annoying in your campaign of “get the troll”.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
A two man rush still got a hit on Palmer
November 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
you don’t belong in the NFL if you go 1-4 in the final 5 games
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guess all those coaches you named that struggled in their fist seasons didnt belong either, once again great logic by mcdummy20
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My post is about why you guys are crying about spilled mik, i wanted him but we didn’t so i moved on with DA, i would give him 1 more chance to go with a new OCO and money to spend in FA and draft picks
November 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
SB winning coaches and their first year records
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Huejax 8-8
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according to mcdummy20 all these guys shouldnt be in the NFL (THEY ALL STRUGGLED DOWN THE STRETCH)
November 12th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Hue couldn’t fire Bresh because AL was alive , but why didn’t he fire him after AL D died, did he forget 24-3 Buffalo debacle?> Hue was the coach , and i don’t care if it was the D , that was the 15th and 17th games of the year, your team should improve, he talked about fixing penalties all year then went on to set a new record , – i wouldn’t want that kinda coach on my team, no thanks , and the league agree’s with me as well , which is why he’s a junior assistant at some special teams position
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Finally, a good post by McFadden 20. Quit wasting yours & our time on trying to do battle with Mistic & post more thoughts like this. IMO, you are 100% correct on this point. I too wondered why Hujack didn’t fire Bresnahan after AD passed. Had he done that he still might be here. Oh well, that’s past history.
Now, if only DA would grow a pair and start firing some of his bad picks. Somehow I don’t see that happening. That’s why his future is in question. He’s indecisive. He has the power but obviously not the will.
Parting thought to McFadden20. Don’t become the troll you seem to be chasing. Recently you’ve become very annoying in your campaign of “get the troll”.
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I am not even going to reply to him, he’s trying hard to get attention
November 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
DA (retroactively D0A at this point) has to be thinking he may be on the hot seat after his vaunted D gives up 97pts in 14 days.
Up next N.O. who could slop a 60 burger on us next.
Two questions to non-troll members of the Nation…
1. Is there a realistic scenario that gets DOA azzcanned mid-season? If so what would have to happen?
2. Same as 1 above but for end of season…Again what would have to happen?
FWIW I honestly think both are possible given the COMPLETE AND UTTER IMPLOSION especially on the D side of the ball, DOA’s ’specialty’…
If this gets worse (and it looks like it sure can at this point) he may be toast. That’s something I didn’t think was even remotely possible 2 weeks ago.
I also think if he continues to COMPLETELY ABNADON THE RUN -IMMEDIATELY AT KICKOFF- as he has done the last 2 weeks he will be unwittingly putting his ill-fated regime to an end. Even when you score with the no huddle/no back offense you end up putting MORE pressure on your weak-azz D since you score too quickly (whenever u do end up scoring)…..
I’m now thinking odds are he’s done if thins don’t radically improve soon…
PS I have no horse in this race. I came into the season open minded and optimistic (albeit a bit confused in Jan when Reggie decided to not give Hue a chance in 2012).
Ok, so what ‘cha all think?
November 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Im hardly a troll, just a fan tired of that. Even Greg Papa said it might have been a mistake letting go of hue.
Is he a troll too? is he a troll when he says palmer cant throw 61 times a game? Is Greg Papa a troll when he says DMAC is not a ZBS fit? tell me again Dmac20? or eastbaysports twitter i mean.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
SB winning coaches and their first year records
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Huejax 8-8
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according to mcdummy20 all these guys shouldnt be in the NFL (THEY ALL STRUGGLED DOWN THE STRETCH)
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not down the stretch , but when you’re sitting at 7-4 and needs only 2 more wins the final 5 games to make the playoffs and you don’t then you just can’t lead the team to the promised land, it’s not just that, you guys use his awesome O excuse, but his awesome O was always invisible when the games really counted, but i wasn’t again bringing hue back . i wanted them to give him a chance with better DC and players, but they didn’t so i moved on , didn’t cry over the spilled milk , like you guys have been crying over
November 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Travis Goethel torn acl. His career with Raiders is probaly done.
Vic Soto waived 1 week to early. Now a Packer for good. Raiders cant buy a good move right now
November 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Im hardly a troll, just a fan tired of that. Even Greg Papa said it might have been a mistake letting go of hue.
Is he a troll too? is he a troll when he says palmer cant throw 61 times a game? Is Greg Papa a troll when he says DMAC is not a ZBS fit? tell me again Dmac20? or eastbaysports twitter i mean.
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Well if you want Knapp gone put me on the list too , i gave him till the 6th week to get his O going but after he kept dialing up same wr screens and 1 of them eventually led to an Int , that was the final nail on the coffin
November 12th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
a nation divided?
so it seems there are a few things that every raider fan will readily admit
1. dfense is awful
2. special teams is awful
3. knapp is awful
yet ther are few items that not only split the nation but cause it to disntergrate into hate spewing and vitriol
1. palmers play and value,
some think he is good and point to yardage totals claiming he isnt the problem.
others say he hasnt delivered the goods pointing out his massive amount of turnovers as a raider and is uninspiring win loss record this seems to be the most troublesome for the fans.
2. hu jack vs d.a
some point to hu jacks wild fluctuations in personality and professionalism while others play up his offensive production and play calling prowess.
While another group insist that allen is an upgrade despite the early returns
3. pryor
some claim he isnt ready or worse simply cant play and should never see the field
others have claimed he should get some playing time at the end of the losing season so he may be evaluated as part of an overall draft strateguy, and have pointed out many examples of exactly this kind of thing
some advocate for a special package just for him to get him on the field.
the latter two ground in favor of pryor playing at some point this season were quickly dubbed “the more radical members of the fan base” by local beat writer corkran.
this will be interesting watching the rest of the year.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
knapp reminds me of the 07 , 08 raider era Kiffin, Cable, No run game for DMAC.. just a horrible time before HUE jax became OC
November 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
you don’t belong in the NFL if you go 1-4 in the final 5 games
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Huejax 8-8
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ONCE AGAIN ACCORDING TO MCDUMMY20 ALL THESE GUYS SHOULDNT BE IN THE NFL
November 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Knapp s8cks and quit with this not adjusting the system to Dmac’s strenths it’s foolish to adjust the system to his strengths when guy only goes about 40% of the season,
I will give DA chance with a new O. Co and Reg chance with money to spend for first time and some draft picks to work with
November 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Did I suggest that you were a troll? I put that tag in there so we could get some real fans talking. Didnt mean anything else by it. Just not a fan of the porn beech, other hard azzes here who have etched in stone positions refuse to ever look at facts, cond on teh ground etc.
i have my opinion (which i try to base on resutls i see) and im looking for comments from likeminded (read: reasonable) fans.
you seem to be one of them. thanks for the comments..
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# RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Im hardly a troll, just a fan tired of that. Even Greg Papa said it might have been a mistake letting go of hue.
Is he a troll too? is he a troll when he says palmer cant throw 61 times a game? Is Greg Papa a troll when he says DMAC is not a ZBS fit? tell me again Dmac20? or eastbaysports twitter i mean.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
you don’t belong in the NFL if you go 1-4 in the final 5 games
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Huejax 8-8
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ONCE AGAIN ACCORDING TO MCDUMMY20 ALL THESE GUYS SHOULDNT BE IN THE NFL
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Look EastsideIdiot, i was in support of them giving Hue Jack chances, and thought he could do stuff with better o.co and his own players, but i wouldn’t mind new direction either, and you guys are calling for him like he was some mad genius , the guy went 1-4 in last 5 games with the playoffs on line for f8cks sake , and guys O was always invisible in 2nd halves, set the new record after telling each and every one of raiders fans he will fix the problem, did the guy not get a fair chance , agree with that , but he’s not here and i’m not going to cry over spilled milk
November 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
a nation divided?
so it seems there are a few things that every raider fan will readily admit
1. dfense is awful
2. special teams is awful
3. knapp is awful
yet ther are few items that not only split the nation but cause it to disntergrate into hate spewing and vitriol
1. palmers play and value,
some think he is good and point to yardage totals claiming he isnt the problem.
others say he hasnt delivered the goods pointing out his massive amount of turnovers as a raider and is uninspiring win loss record this seems to be the most troublesome for the fans.
2. hu jack vs d.a
some point to hu jacks wild fluctuations in personality and professionalism while others play up his offensive production and play calling prowess.
While another group insist that allen is an upgrade despite the early returns
3. pryor
some claim he isnt ready or worse simply cant play and should never see the field
others have claimed he should get some playing time at the end of the losing season so he may be evaluated as part of an overall draft strateguy, and have pointed out many examples of exactly this kind of thing
some advocate for a special package just for him to get him on the field.
the latter two ground in favor of pryor playing at some point this season were quickly dubbed “the more radical members of the fan base” by local beat writer corkran.
this will be interesting watching the rest of the year.
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This true good post
November 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
d.a picked knapp he must be accountable for the offensive failure
d.a is supposed to be a defensive coach but the defense is the worst i have ever seen, he is looking up at breshnahan?!?!?!
Im having trouble finding any redeeming value in the d.a hire
November 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
better D.CO ***^^^
November 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
tuckrulefool Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
DA (retroactively D0A at this point) has to be thinking he may be on the hot seat after his vaunted D gives up 97pts in 14 days.
Up next N.O. who could slop a 60 burger on us next.
Two questions to non-troll members of the Nation…
1. Is there a realistic scenario that gets DOA azzcanned mid-season? If so what would have to happen?
2. Same as 1 above but for end of season…Again what would have to happen?
FWIW I honestly think both are possible given the COMPLETE AND UTTER IMPLOSION especially on the D side of the ball, DOA’s ’specialty’…
If this gets worse (and it looks like it sure can at this point) he may be toast. That’s something I didn’t think was even remotely possible 2 weeks ago.
I also think if he continues to COMPLETELY ABNADON THE RUN -IMMEDIATELY AT KICKOFF- as he has done the last 2 weeks he will be unwittingly putting his ill-fated regime to an end. Even when you score with the no huddle/no back offense you end up putting MORE pressure on your weak-azz D since you score too quickly (whenever u do end up scoring)…..
I’m now thinking odds are he’s done if thins don’t radically improve soon…
PS I have no horse in this race. I came into the season open minded and optimistic (albeit a bit confused in Jan when Reggie decided to not give Hue a chance in 2012).
Ok, so what ‘cha all think?
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Good & fair questions. I don’t see RM canning him during the season. At the end of the season, maybe. BTW, I love the new moniker “DOA”. Very appropriate given most recent results. If DOA doesn’t take positive action like firing Hoffman,downgrading Knapp or some other positive action, his days in fact may be numbered. Keep in mind RM is new and UNPROVEN. So, to some extent, he’s on the hot seat too. Some may think “well it can’t get any worse”. Believe me, “it can get worse”. The Saints could easily run the boards on us big time. 60 points is not out of question -Brees is a point machine. He will have a field day with our back 7. DOA needs to something drastic to show he’s large & in-charge. Business as normal will only prove that’s he’s not ready for this level of management. If this continues and/or gets worse for the remainder of the year, I don’t see him surviving as head coach. He could gracefully take a demotion to DC while some other proven coach, like Mike Holmgren or the like gets hired as HC. RM needs to do what he’s got to do to see that this team is supplied with talent. That goes for coaching as well as players.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Grade this game??
F’s across the board. F’s and nothing but F’s.
Carson Palmer throwing the ball 61-times per game is insane, and should never have happened yesterday…basically abandoning the run in the first half was doom.
Greg Knapp cannot call plays. Knapp might be able to diagram a good play…but he CANNOT PUT TOGETHER A GAMEPLAN that makes sense, or one that ebbs-and-flows within the game when changes are necessary.
The Offensive Players know Greg Knapp can’t call a good game. Everybody in the NFL knows Greg Knapp cannot call a good game…he proves it week after week.
A QB throws for 360-yards and 2-TD’s and we can’t put more than 20-points on the board??
The Defense failed miserably. The Offense failed miserably. Special Teams failed miserably. And, worst of all…the Coaches failed miserably.
Greg Knapp should not be calling plays. The solution to the Raiders’ playcalling problems is on staff already…his name’s Al Saunders.
AL SAUNDERS KNOWS HOW TO CALL A GAME WHILE IT’S IN PROGRESS…and not just on paper.
Of course, that change wouldn’t fix coaching problems 2 and 2(a): Our Defensive “gurus” at HC and DC, whose respective impact seems to be about as invisible as that of Rolando McClain’s.
No more excuses for — or from — Greg Knapp. No more waiting for the O-line to gel, or for Players to all be healthy at the same time. It’s time to put a PROFESSIONAL product on the field, no matter who’s out there on game day.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
1. Is there a realistic scenario that gets DOA azzcanned mid-season? If so what would have to happen?
2. Same as 1 above but for end of season…Again what would have to happen?
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Not gonna happen. The only thing that MAYBE would have gotten DA fired was a 1-15 or 0-16 season, and we’ve already passed that win total.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
anybody that disagrees with macnuttsack is labeled a troll
he dosnt have the football acumen to debate based on football facts
only wild speculation name calling and race baiting
November 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
“1. Is there a realistic scenario that gets DOA azzcanned mid-season? If so what would have to happen?”
Only if he committed a felony like a drunk driving incident or he embarrassed the organization in a Sandusky kind of manner could I see him losing his job mid season
2. Same as 1 above but for end of season…Again what would have to happen?
This is a different scenario because its end of season but my answer would be the same as above because there is no way RM eats crow after one season on his “Gut” hire. I would say even if it seems he has lost the team and we lose the rest of our game ending up at 3-13 there is no way DA is shown the door unless he commits a felonious act.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Same way i wll give DA another year to work with a better O.co since he didn’t have many options left at the time he was hired, i will give reg and co chance with more money to spend and more draft picks
November 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
the guy went 1-4 in last 5 games with the playoffs on line for f8cks sake
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and how many rookie coaches get their team to within playoff reach mcdummy?
November 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Troll is reaching his boiling point and trying hard to get some attention , hahahahah
November 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
JB, good take on Tuckrule’s post.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I guess this wont be the best year afterall.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Huejax 8-8
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Mccarthy went 8-8 his first season with a better roster and he didnt get fired and how’d that pay off for GB.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Just watched Coach Allen press conference – he looks shell shocked.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
the guy went 1-4 in last 5 games with the playoffs on line for f8cks sake
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and how many rookie coaches get their team to within playoff reach mcdummy?
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I don’t care how many do or how many don’t eastsidephaggot, what i’m talking about is the constant crying and weeping over a guy who’s a assistant somewhere , you guys cry like he was 11-5 and led us to some championship game or something , get over the guy already eastsidephaggot
November 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Coach Allen said no one on the coaching staff is in jeopardy of losing his job and that his job is to find a way to win games right now.
WHY THE HELL NOT??? YOU ARE FREAKIN INCOMPETENT!!! AND TO TAKE THIS OPTION OFF THE TABLE IS BLIND EGO!!!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Put Don Shula on that list as well.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Oakland Raiders: Damontre Moore, OLB/DE, Texas A&M
The Raiders need to take the best defensive prospect available. Their pass rush has been pitiful, and their cornerbacks are weak. Oakland was horrible at recording sacks or interceptions until the defense came alive in the Atlanta game. Dennis Allen needs to upgrade the talent level of his defense across the board. Moore is the most talented pass-rusher or cornerback available.
Moore has been one of the most consistent pass-rushers in college football this season and is one of the nation’s leaders with 11.5 sacks. He has more sacks in 2012 than Sam Montgomery and Barkevious Mingo combined.
Perhaps even more impressive than that, Moore leads his team with 69 tackles – 11 more than the next closest defender. He has 19 tackles for a loss, two passes broken up, a blocked kick and a forced fumble. Moore is playing traditional defensive end this year given the change in A&M’s coaching staff. The 6-foot-4, 250-pounder needs to add more weight for the NFL if he is going to stay as a 4-3 defensive end.
Moore played joker outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense prior to this season, the same position Von Miller used to play. Moore had 72 tackles, 17.5 tackles for a loss, 8.5 sacks and four forced fumbles last year. He had 5.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and 50 tackles as a freshman in 2010.
Per Walterfootball. Currently leading Sacks in SEC in 2012. WOW this dude looks good.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Huejax 8-8
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Mccarthy went 8-8 his first season with a better roster and he didnt get fired and how’d that pay off for GB.
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Eastsidephaggot what part of my posts you don’t get , did i said i wanted Hue gone last year? no , all i said was he’s not here and he went 1-4 when we needed just 2 wins in the last 5 games , or when we needed just punts from SD O , could the guy been doing good right now , that’s anybodies guess, but he’s not here so i prefer not to cry over the spilled milk
November 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
lol at mcfaggen20 the blog village idiot. what a dumbass
November 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Oakland Raiders: Damontre Moore, OLB/DE, Texas A&M
The Raiders need to take the best defensive prospect available. Their pass rush has been pitiful, and their cornerbacks are weak. Oakland was horrible at recording sacks or interceptions until the defense came alive in the Atlanta game. Dennis Allen needs to upgrade the talent level of his defense across the board. Moore is the most talented pass-rusher or cornerback available.
Moore has been one of the most consistent pass-rushers in college football this season and is one of the nation’s leaders with 11.5 sacks. He has more sacks in 2012 than Sam Montgomery and Barkevious Mingo combined.
Perhaps even more impressive than that, Moore leads his team with 69 tackles – 11 more than the next closest defender. He has 19 tackles for a loss, two passes broken up, a blocked kick and a forced fumble. Moore is playing traditional defensive end this year given the change in A&M’s coaching staff. The 6-foot-4, 250-pounder needs to add more weight for the NFL if he is going to stay as a 4-3 defensive end.
Moore played joker outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense prior to this season, the same position Von Miller used to play. Moore had 72 tackles, 17.5 tackles for a loss, 8.5 sacks and four forced fumbles last year. He had 5.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and 50 tackles as a freshman in 2010.
Per Walterfootball. Currently leading Sacks in SEC in 2012. WOW this dude looks good.
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AGreed, pass rush in Draft and Pass rush in FA should be priority #1
November 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Mcfadden20 contributes a lot to this blog. He’s fair and he loves the raiders. A welcome addition.
I liked hue. I liked how much he was loyal to al davis. It was hard to see him tossed by mark davis. But he did fail badly down the stretch. Hard to blame a new gm for wanting to bring in his guy.
But I am wavering on DA and his staff. Hard to see where he excels. But it was a good post regarding hall of game coaches and their first years. Only difference is the raiders had been 8-8 the last two seasons. We’re dramatically worse now.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
SILENT TREATMENT FOR MISTIC FROM ALL BLOGGERS PLEASE!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
lol at mcfaggen20 the blog village idiot. what a dumbass
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you are one of those guys who keeps on crying about a hot girl that slipped past by them 10 years ago and can’t get over it , seriously get some help , Hue is not here , get over it
November 12th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Until he switches handles and he will be easy to sniff out.
SILENT TREATMENT FOR ALL PALMER BASHERS PLEASE!
It’s idiotic and obvious baiting. Not real opinions.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
It is certainly time for DA to step in and show why he was hired. Wasn’t he supposed to be an up-and-coming defensive star? Injuries have decimated the secondary, but surely they can get better play out of the scraps they have
November 12th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Sign Alemada Ta’amu!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Mcfadden20 contributes a lot to this blog. He’s fair and he loves the raiders. A welcome addition.
I liked hue. I liked how much he was loyal to al davis. It was hard to see him tossed by mark davis. But he did fail badly down the stretch. Hard to blame a new gm for wanting to bring in his guy.
But I am wavering on DA and his staff. Hard to see where he excels. But it was a good post regarding hall of game coaches and their first years. Only difference is the raiders had been 8-8 the last two seasons. We’re dramatically worse now.
dr_robert Says:
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Yes exactly , i wanted Hue to get another chance too but he didn’t so understandably so i am not going to cry here just because we’re not on the pace to match last years win totals, i would give DA 1 more chance too , in which he can grab a better O.co and have better players on the D side
November 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Coach Allen said no one on the coaching staff is in jeopardy of losing his job and that his job is to find a way to win games right now.
WHY THE HELL NOT??? YOU ARE FREAKIN INCOMPETENT!!! AND TO TAKE THIS OPTION OFF THE TABLE IS BLIND EGO!!!!!!
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100% correct. DOA needs to shoot someone to send a real message. It doesn’t even have to be the right guy. The message NEEDS to be sent. I vote for Hoffman. He in my opinion has been the most useless coaching contributor on staff. He shows no redeeming value to his ongoing existence on the team.
Who your choice for target of the week?
November 12th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
He should start with canning Knapp right now, let anybody else who have experience in ZBS to work things out
November 12th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
This ZBS scheme hasn’t been able to get the run game going , but Passing game is alright when Briesel and Smith decide to block their man in front of them , but Knapps play calling needs to go he’s the reason for Palmer’s int, kept dialing up the same plays , like D.co’s wouldn’t figure it out
November 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Re-assign Knapp as Co-Offensive Coordinator, and let Al Saunders call the plays.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Sign Alamada Ta’amu!!!
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He’s with Pittsburgh, I believe…
November 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Never mind.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/12/steelers-dump-alameda-taamu/
November 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Hoffman is the goat I’d like to see gone. Ever since week one with all the botched punt snaps, it’s been terrible
November 12th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Carson Palmer leads the AFC in passing, and he is on pace (4,841) to break Rich Gannon’s #Raiders record of 4,689 (2002).
Unfortunately, not enough to win games. There’s something rotten in Oakland guys. Coaches? Players? Raider management? All the above? You be the judge.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Hoffman would def be gone next year , along with Knapp and other guys , i don’t have problem with ZBS , but they should bring in some one better to teach it and call plays
November 12th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Carson Palmer’s easily responsible for half his Int’s…he lets balls go that he should be holding on to (even if a “bad” play is called at the time). CPalmer has lots of talent…but his mistakes at critical times can’t be blamed on others.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Carson Palmer leads the AFC in passing, and he is on pace (4,841) to break Rich Gannon’s #Raiders record of 4,689 (2002).
Unfortunately, not enough to win games. There’s something rotten in Oakland guys. Coaches? Players? Raider management? All the above? You be the judge.
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D side
November 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Steelers announce that they have released fourth-round DT Alameda Ta’amu.
Maybe worth a look?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Bears expect to re-sign Josh Mccown to take over the back up position over JC , i heard that before lmao
November 12th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Coach Allen said no one on the coaching staff is in jeopardy of losing his job and that his job is to find a way to win games right now.
WHY THE HELL NOT??? YOU ARE FREAKIN INCOMPETENT!!! AND TO TAKE THIS OPTION OFF THE TABLE IS BLIND EGO!!!!!!
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100% correct. DOA needs to shoot someone to send a real message. It doesn’t even have to be the right guy. The message NEEDS to be sent.
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The Ravens scored on 8 of their first 10 possessions. You know, you could put me, Koolkell, 666, and a handful of others out there on defense and apparently, it wouldn’t matter. We could go out there and let opponents score basically EVERY time. Nothing to brag about there. That is mind boggling.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But…give Palmer an OC who can call plays, a RB who can stay healthy, and a Defense that can keep opposing Teams to less than 25-points a game, and he’d be a Pro Bowl, Playoff-Team-leading QB.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Steelers announce that they have released fourth-round DT Alameda Ta’amu.
Maybe worth a look?
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If the steelers who released him , then nope, if it was some dumb team who released him then he would have been def given a look
November 12th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But…give Palmer an OC who can call plays, a RB who can stay healthy, and a Defense that can keep opposing Teams to less than 25-points a game, and he’d be a Pro Bowl, Playoff-Team-leading QB.
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Special teams who can give him better position once in awhile too
November 12th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
This is what DOA should be saying about Steve Hoffman – ST Coordinator. Attention DOA check out this clip to see ow its done:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/carolina-panthers/0ap2000000094017/Ron-Rivera-fires-special-teams-coach?campaign=Twitter_car
November 12th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
161.mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Steelers announce that they have released fourth-round DT Alameda Ta’amu.
Maybe worth a look?
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If the steelers who released him , then nope, if it was some dumb team who released him then he would have been def given a look
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Can’t be any worse than what we’ve got right now.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Thanks for the input.
While still a rookie I think D0A is confusing “strength” with “pig-headedness”. He is ’staying the course’ no matter what the conditions on the ground say.
Sorry that’s not leadership, that’s ego. You MUST adapt. That goes for players coaches (and fans for that matter). He is not adapting, or a t aleast not enough to matter.
Couple of (specific) examples that bug me already about him (again based on DOA’s behavior this pres-season/reglar season). (No doubt there are many more just mentioning a couple to get the juices going.)
1. The whole Tiawan Jones deal.
No real RB options at this point yet you Refuse to give him a legitimate opportunity. This simply makes no sense. If you don’t like the guy, cut him. Dont hide behind the “we don’t trust him” bs. Again, if hes not trustworthy why is he taking up a valuable spot? Al is dead, cant use scholorship fear as an excuse. What bugs me the most here is guys like Evans who fumble repeatedly CLEARLY arent trustworthy (yesterdays punt botch was THE death dagger btw). Yet he is back there.
2. Smith. Cant rememebr a worse OT. yet he stays there with unproven young talent on the bench. (and please forget the K-nap crap about he needs to know every postion 1st. Can he punt? if not lets keep him out too. jeez.).
2. Very conservative/almost scared. This is linked in some ways to the above. Before you say “wait he onside kicks, fake puts etc”. Thats not what I am talking about. Im talking about personnel moves, game planning and management. In all 3 areas he plays not to lose vs win. The win vs Jags was a good example. Did Jano need to come out IMMEDIATELY? Not a huge pt esp since we won I’ll admit but its plays like that that show you how he thinks. Nut up son. This week also presented a chance to EXPOSE Baltimore run D. whats he do? NOT EVEN TRY! Explain this to me. If run fails, fine start throwing more. Its as if he was saying I KNOW CP3 can run the no back O and so i’m going there. Even though your D has been (and was once again) BADLY exposed. FAST scoring isn’t good for your D. BAD PLAN.
At this point I just don’t think he’s talented enough (or perhaps not ready) to be a HC. Sorry, but thats what I see.
Going forward, DOA needs to act and act now. Give a55hats the bench that deserve it and let players that havent received a fair shake, a shake.
Guys like Berstrom, Jones, , and yes even Pryor (trick packages, return game, etc) NEED to get out there.
Have some exotic D to confuse the teams that are scouting us each week? USE them Mr Defensive GURU. Yes, there will be risk but dude, smell the java.
YOU ARE ALREADY AT RISK!
November 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Well…all those drives that start inside our own 15 let Palmer throw for 300+ yards per game. In fact, they make those games necessary.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Everyone should listen to the coaches press conference today. And teh commentary afterwards by Romo and Lo Neal. Lo Neal says exactly what I’ve been trying to convey to you guys about Palmer. I know it’s not fair to single him out, but that goes with the territory. He is way too talented to do some of things he does this team needs his leadership and when he falters they stop believing. It’s just the wya it is NOT FAIR but if you want to be considered a top notch QB you have to accept it…………period
November 12th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Ta’amu’s on a fourth-round contract. I absolutely think Reggie should bring him.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
God this taiwan jones rant is getting annoying as Misticthesuperidiot’s Palmer rants, the guy was a 4th or 5th rd choice for a reason for f8k sake , he wasn’t given much chance last year either
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Who your choice for target of the week?
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Frank Pollack
November 12th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Everyone should listen to the coaches press conference today. And teh commentary afterwards by Romo and Lo Neal. Lo Neal says exactly what I’ve been trying to convey to you guys about Palmer. I know it’s not fair to single him out, but that goes with the territory. He is way too talented to do some of things he does this team needs his leadership and when he falters they stop believing. It’s just the wya it is NOT FAIR but if you want to be considered a top notch QB you have to accept it…………period
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waiting for posters to start calling former nfl fullback
lorenzo neal a troll
lol
November 12th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I want some changes this week seriously, i don’t care if its some assistant coach at special teams whatever, i want them to do something
November 12th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Who your choice for target of the week?
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Frank Pollack
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Co-signed. That o-line is an abomination.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Listen to Romo? No thanks.
If every Player on the Raiders carried his weight as well as Carson Palmer does (even with his mistakes)…we’d be 7-2 or better right now.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
JB Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
This is what DOA should be saying about Steve Hoffman – ST Coordinator. Attention DOA check out this clip to see ow its done:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/carolina-panthers/0ap2000000094017/Ron-Rivera-fires-special-teams-coach?campaign=Twitter_car
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And we gave up two ST’s TD’s and a muffed punt which resulted in another TD. What are we doing with our ST coach buying him a new car?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Listen to Romo? No thanks.
If every Player on the Raiders carried his weight as well as Carson Palmer does (even with his mistakes)…we’d be 7-2 or better right now.
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+1
November 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
169.mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
God this taiwan jones rant is getting annoying as Misticthesuperidiot’s Palmer rants, the guy was a 4th or 5th rd choice for a reason for f8k sake , he wasn’t given much chance last year either
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My problem with Jones is that he’s taking up a roster spot.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
If the steelers who released him , then nope, if it was some dumb team who released him then he would have been def given a look
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Steelers and Patriots pick up our trash. What does that say about the Raiders?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But…give Palmer an OC who can call plays, a RB who can stay healthy, and a Defense that can keep opposing Teams to less than 25-points a game, and he’d be a Pro Bowl, Playoff-Team-leading QB.
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You could say that about the average QB, what makes the great ones great is the fact that their teams know no matter what the score is and how it’s turning out their QB will give them a chance to win. We they don’t believe that is when you see what we saw yesterday. The rest of teh team loses hope when the score gets a little out of whack. Had Palmer won that TB game coming form that far back to win. You would’ve never seen what happened yesterday, this team would’ve gone iinto Balt. trying like hell to get a win. But once the score got out of whack you saw them let down it’s natural to do so if you don’t think you have the goods.
Palmer has to find a way to get these guys to believe if the continue playing hard and fast that he can bring it home I gaurantee you’ll see this entire change the way they play.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Re-assign Knapp as Co-Offensive Coordinator, and let Al Saunders call the plays.
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A good start!
November 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
169.mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
God this taiwan jones rant is getting annoying as Misticthesuperidiot’s Palmer rants, the guy was a 4th or 5th rd choice for a reason for f8k sake , he wasn’t given much chance last year either
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My problem with Jones is that he’s taking up a roster spot.
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still seeing if he can develop??
November 12th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Allen isn’t going anywhere. Firing him would give us 4 coaches in 4 years, not really a recipe for success. I view Allen almost like Romeo Crennel, he’s not good enough to be dealing with both the offense and defense, but he doesn’t have an OC that merits trust that would allow him to focus on the D.
I remember being as shocked as I’ve ever been with the Raiders when I heard they brought back Knapp. It’s not just that he failed before, it’s that he failed in Oakland before, and miserably.
The Raiders are stale. They are not dynamic, they don’t adjust, they don’t put their players in a position to win. The coach’s job is the maximize his players talent. We’re burning through Carson’s arm (when we’re not getting him killed), we have McFadden running through a brick wall and we have receivers who have not been coached on how to run routes. Where the hell are Freddy B and Tim Brown to teach these guys to run routes instead of galloping and running God knows where.
The Raiders’ coaching stuff simply does not put players in a position to win. McFadden struggling to break through the line? Get him out in space like vs. SD! Defense getting burned? Stop running delayed safety blitzes that expose our makeshift secondary!
The real indicator of the season is how bad this team is in the third quarter in seemingly every game. Coaches tweak and adjust and steamroll us, while the Raiders seem content to go with what they came in with and not to make any adjustments. We’re a bad team that is not well coached, the only hope is that DA improve a lot next year, because otherwise, we’re going to be back searching for a new coach…again…
November 12th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
“At the end of the day, it’s my job to make sure this team is ready to play” Dennis Allen
Cue “Hells Bells” gong
November 12th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
If the steelers who released him , then nope, if it was some dumb team who released him then he would have been def given a look
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Steelers and Patriots pick up our trash. What does that say about the Raiders?
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Players don’t want to play for a losing organization? are not being developed right?? But if Steelers which have finished in top 10 for Every D category in last 10 years are going to let a player go , they know wtf they’re doing , they aren’t going to let some one go who’s got some value
November 12th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
My problem with Jones is that he’s taking up a roster spot.
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still seeing if he can develop??
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Are we talking about Taiwan…or DMC? Again??
November 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Balt. doesn’t play nearly as well on the road, you know why? Look at the way the QB performs on the road and you’ll have ytour answer
November 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RussianRaider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Allen isn’t going anywhere. Firing him would give us 4 coaches in 4 years, not really a recipe for success. I view Allen almost like Romeo Crennel, he’s not good enough to be dealing with both the offense and defense, but he doesn’t have an OC that merits trust that would allow him to focus on the D.
I remember being as shocked as I’ve ever been with the Raiders when I heard they brought back Knapp. It’s not just that he failed before, it’s that he failed in Oakland before, and miserably.
The Raiders are stale. They are not dynamic, they don’t adjust, they don’t put their players in a position to win. The coach’s job is the maximize his players talent. We’re burning through Carson’s arm (when we’re not getting him killed), we have McFadden running through a brick wall and we have receivers who have not been coached on how to run routes. Where the hell are Freddy B and Tim Brown to teach these guys to run routes instead of galloping and running God knows where.
The Raiders’ coaching stuff simply does not put players in a position to win. McFadden struggling to break through the line? Get him out in space like vs. SD! Defense getting burned? Stop running delayed safety blitzes that expose our makeshift secondary!
The real indicator of the season is how bad this team is in the third quarter in seemingly every game. Coaches tweak and adjust and steamroll us, while the Raiders seem content to go with what they came in with and not to make any adjustments. We’re a bad team that is not well coached, the only hope is that DA improve a lot next year, because otherwise, we’re going to be back searching for a new coach…again…
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good take
November 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raiders just added player to IR – One of the G’s. So, there is at least one open spot.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
ALL RB’s should be released , none of them can stay healthy, I’m ready to start over at that position
November 12th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The St. Louis Rams suspended two players and cut a third before the Whiner game yesterday morning. Maybe walking into the team hotel at 7am has its consequences. Good for Jeff Fisher.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Great post Russian…
Especially this!
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The real indicator of the season is how bad this team is in the third quarter in seemingly every game. Coaches tweak and adjust and steamroll us, while the Raiders seem content to go with what they came in with and not to make any adjustments. We’re a bad team that is not well coached, the only hope is that DA improve a lot next year, because otherwise, we’re going to be back searching for a new coach…again…
November 12th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
You can tell by DA’s pressers the guy is in way over his head. He is searching for answers because he just doesn’t have them. It’ll take DA 3-4 years before he’ll understand how to get a team righted when in a tailspin. He just looks miffed as to what is going on.
How do you fire a rookie 8-8 coach and go hire this guy??? HOW??
November 12th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
We can change all the coaches we want, until the D starts pass rushing better against better QB’s we will never win games against good QB’s , until Briesel and Smith start blocking better , we will never keep up with other teams , i could def live with giving the play calling to some one else other than KNapp
November 12th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
You can tell by DA’s pressers the guy is in way over his head. He is searching for answers because he just doesn’t have them. It’ll take DA 3-4 years before he’ll understand how to get a team righted when in a tailspin. He just looks miffed as to what is going on.
How do you fire a rookie 8-8 coach and go hire this guy??? HOW??
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0-5 errr, 1-4 to end. That’s how.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Qodrn1 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raiders just added player to IR – One of the G’s. So, there is at least one open spot.
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Goethel was put on IR again.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Hue=water under the bridge.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season. I’m sure there will be those that say that he should be given more time to make things work, but I dont believe in that so much. While I do feel that there are scenarios where time can be granted, in this case, I think D.A. has proven one singular thing, and it is that he is NOT the right man to be head coach of this football team. Period. The bottom line is that this team has regressed in EVERY facet of the game since this man took over as head coach. EVERY facet. He has FAILED. There is no other way to put it. With that said, what has D.A. done to warrant one more year?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Who your choice for target of the week?
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Frank Pollack
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Co-signed. That o-line is an abomination.
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Unfortunately not going o happen. Pollack & Knapp are bunk buddies. Knapp will protect Pollack because he was Knapp’s pick. You got to shoot both of them at the same time in order to make a difference. Love to see Pollack one as Wylie is still available but probably not willing. RM would really have to do some serious a$$ kissing to get him back.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
BHP — You put WAAAAY too much weight on Palmer’s right shoulder right now.
Even with his occasional miscues, Carson Palmer is giving the Raiders the kind of play GM’s and Owners drool over. The ability to put up these kinds of numbers doesn’t just walk in off the street.
The shame in having Carson Palmer right now — just like with guys like Janikowski — is that those numbers are being wasted on what is turning out to be a throw-away year, and maybe more than just this year.
The blame goes all the way around…and it starts right at ReggieMac’s office.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I am not saying fire the coaches. I have seen TOOOOO much of that here. But instead of blaming the players, and the players do deserve blame, this coaching staff needs to look at themselves.
The blitz Tarver calls early in the game on a 3rd and 9 was a disaster. He sends both safeties, which is interesting, but they are lined up so far back in the secondary that they have NO HOPE of getting to Flacco. Not only that, now you just took 2 defenders and made them irrelvant. So now we are playing 11 on 9. We’re not good enough to play 11 on 9. We’re not good enough to play 11 on 11.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
So former nfl fullback lorenzo neal called out palmer?
is he a racist?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Raiders can fix run D , but they can’t fix pass D, until they bring guys who can get to pass rush, we didn’t have it last year = bottom 5 D , we don’t have it this year = bottom 5 D
November 12th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
169.mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
God this taiwan jones rant is getting annoying as Misticthesuperidiot’s Palmer rants, the guy was a 4th or 5th rd choice for a reason for f8k sake , he wasn’t given much chance last year either
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My problem with Jones is that he’s taking up a roster spot.
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How is that TJones problem. Sounds more like a mismanagement problem. Practice is NOT live play against a real opponent. TJones may look like crap in practice but may be great in real time. Guess we’ll never know because DOA has decided that he gets no reps. If that’s the case, cut him and bring on an emergency FG holder specialist. You never know when we might need one of them. Get real DOA. Grow a pair and start leading & making better decisions.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season.
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Unless things turn around real quickly, and I mean starting Sunday against New Orleans, you gotta at least start having the convo.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season. I’m sure there will be those that say that he should be given more time to make things work, but I dont believe in that so much. While I do feel that there are scenarios where time can be granted, in this case, I think D.A. has proven one singular thing, and it is that he is NOT the right man to be head coach of this football team. Period. The bottom line is that this team has regressed in EVERY facet of the game since this man took over as head coach. EVERY facet. He has FAILED. There is no other way to put it. With that said, what has D.A. done to warrant one more year?
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1) Players cannot be properly developed when you’re constantly whipsawing them between this coach and that coach. New assistants, new philosophy, new playcalls, new everything. The average fan doesn’t understand how much your entire team really starts from zero every time you bring a new coach and staff in.
2) Al’s quick hook with coaches was part of the reason he wasn’t able to hire anyone decent (except Gruden) during the last two decades of his life. The entire league is watching to see what Reggie does. He fires DA without a darn good (like 0-16 season) cause, and it’s back to us settling for the dregs of the coaching pool.
3) Reggie and DA came into a horrible, unprecedented scenario. Give them time.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
How do you fire a rookie 8-8 coach and go hire this guy??? HOW??
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I never thought Hue would stay once we missed the playoffs. With the kind of organizational turnover that Mr. Davis’ death brought, it had to be a full house cleaning. Moreover, recall that Hue was coach and GM (he orchestrated the Palmer trade, remember?) and McKenzie didn’t want a power struggle. I get it the change, it made sense because Hue would have wanted a lot more power than Reggie would give him.
However, for a rookie GM to go with a rookie HC (note that Dennis only had one year experience as a DC in Denver, which itself wasn’t a defensive powerhouse last year), you have to expect that there will be growing pains, and anyone who didn’t expect that had to be deluding themselves. I always thought the Raiders needed to go after someone with more experience because McKenzie was a rookie too, so having a coach who commands respect based on a strong reputation would be critical to establishing credibility with the old Al Davis guys (Kelly, Seymour, Huff etc.)
All of this, however, does not excuse going with such a young coaching staff that has so little experience while simultaneously marginalizing the few veteran coaches on the staff (Al Saunders…when was the last time you even heard his name mentioned?).
This year is done…Raiders will be 5-11 or 6-10 at best (assuming sweeping KC, beating Cleveland and possible wins vs. Carolina and @ San Diego). Next year will be the real test for DA and Reggie when they are truly running “their” team and not Davis/HueJax holdovers. Expect BIG changes.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
8.mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
SB winning coaches and their records in the first year of their coaching career
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Just list of some of Hall of Fame Coaches and future HOF coaches and how they did in their first years
============================================= How long does it take before you stop making exuses for Dennis Allen??? Are you slow? Did you like ride in on the short yellow bus? He’s an idiot!! He fking changed a top 10 offensive system to pile of garbage. SHUT UP!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I agree that Reggie Mac should have eased the transition. Perhaps kept Hue or brought in a vet HC ala Wade Philips or Dom Capers… but hindsight is 20/20…drastic change was needed, no doubt.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Qodrn1 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raiders just added player to IR – One of the G’s. So, there is at least one open spot.
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Goethel was put on IR again.
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Goethel Raider career has just ended. He’s more breakable than Glass Schilens. His NFL career is over.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
D.A is on the hot seat and rightfully so, this is joe bugel bad.
Biggest knocks agiansthim 3rd quarter failure week after week
hiring greg knapp then allowing knapp to change line schemes in m wee 6
defensive collapse and he is a defensive specialist
for anyone holding the notion that he cant be fired because its his first year there are two things you must remember
1. plenty of coaches have been one and done hu jack, pete carroll, jom mora jr and so on, it happens more often than people think
2. big macks job and rep are on the line, i doubt he sits by and watches all his hard work over the years building himself into this postilion go out the window because he made a bad choice as his first coach.
this is the nfl and people will not get the beneifit of the doubt in a results oriented business.
No amopuint of fan worship will change this fact
November 12th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
3) Reggie and DA came into a horrible, unprecedented scenario. Give them time.
Al’s been gone over a fkn year now!! Colts were horrible after Al died and has made a huge improvment.Reggie and Dennis Allen has screwed up big.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
8.mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
SB winning coaches and their records in the first year of their coaching career
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Vince Lombardi 7-5
Tom Landry 0-11-1
Mike Mccarthy 8-8
CHuck Noll 1-13
Bill Parcells 3-12-1
Bill Walsh 2-14
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Tony Dungy 6-10
Mike Ditke 3-6
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Belichick 6-10
Just list of some of Hall of Fame Coaches and future HOF coaches and how they did in their first years
============================================= How long does it take before you stop making exuses for Dennis Allen??? Are you slow? Did you like ride in on the short yellow bus? He’s an idiot!! He fking changed a top 10 offensive system to pile of garbage. SHUT UP!!!!
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top ten my ass, we’re only averaging 1 point less than last year, and you need to understand idiot, I’m not defending the OC , who knows what kinda options he had and he had to settle with KNap , but i’m pretty sure he will hire some one better and bring in better Pass rush next year
November 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
If RM brought in a vet coach and him being a first year GM – there would have been a power struggle anyway.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DA says there’s no magic answer, sure there is, OLine, Dline, Secondary = Magic Answer.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
208.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I agree that Reggie Mac should have eased the transition. Perhaps kept Hue or brought in a vet HC ala Wade Philips or Dom Capers… but hindsight is 20/20…drastic change was needed, no doubt.
Changes on defense yes.Not on offense.Give me a fkn break man.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
3) Reggie and DA came into a horrible, unprecedented scenario. Give them time.
Al’s been gone over a fkn year now!! Colts were horrible after Al died and has made a huge improvment.Reggie and Dennis Allen has screwed up big.
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Colts had one freaking bad season over the last 12 years and thats because there was not 1 good guy to back up PM, LUCK >> Jim SOrgi and the other 3rd stringers they had
November 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season. I’m sure there will be those that say that he should be given more time to make things work, but I dont believe in that so much. While I do feel that there are scenarios where time can be granted, in this case, I think D.A. has proven one singular thing, and it is that he is NOT the right man to be head coach of this football team. Period. The bottom line is that this team has regressed in EVERY facet of the game since this man took over as head coach. EVERY facet. He has FAILED. There is no other way to put it. With that said, what has D.A. done to warrant one more year?
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Absolutely NOTHING! If he doesn’t fire an assistant coach or two before the end of the year then I say ADIOS DOA, you just are not made of the right stuff. NFL = Not For Long and that goes for coaches too.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic, who would be your ideal coach of the Raiders?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
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top ten my ass, we’re only averaging 1 point less than last year, and you need to understand idiot, I’m not defending the OC , who knows what kinda options he had and he had to settle with KNap , but i’m pretty sure he will hire some one better and bring in better Pass rush next year
No we were top 10 you stupid fkn Reggie lover.Heard enough of your stupid bllsht.Just fkn shut your mouth moron.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
208.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I agree that Reggie Mac should have eased the transition. Perhaps kept Hue or brought in a vet HC ala Wade Philips or Dom Capers… but hindsight is 20/20…drastic change was needed, no doubt.
Changes on defense yes.Not on offense.Give me a fkn break man.
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The offense was scrap, you guys have too much of the trick plays on ur mind , 22 points a game is hardly anything to cry about we’re only averaging 1 less than last year and you want to give those guys chances who have struggled every place they coached , what a idiot..
November 12th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
GOOD EVENING NATION!!!
and my GreenParty brothers!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Colts had one freaking bad season over the last 12 years and thats because there was not 1 good guy to back up PM, LUCK >> Jim SOrgi and the other 3rd stringers they had
NO moron..Horrible = #1 overall pick.Damn your a fkn retard.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
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top ten my ass, we’re only averaging 1 point less than last year, and you need to understand idiot, I’m not defending the OC , who knows what kinda options he had and he had to settle with KNap , but i’m pretty sure he will hire some one better and bring in better Pass rush next year
No we were top 10 you stupid fkn Reggie lover.Heard enough of your stupid bllsht.Just fkn shut your mouth moron.
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ranked 16 last year you fkckin Hue nut hugger get your facts straight, we’re only averaging 1 point less than last year, you sound like a monkey now f9ck off already , either talk with facts or close your Ashole
November 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Hi, I’m Oakfoshow. People call me Oakfoshow.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic, who would be your ideal coach of the Raiders?
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good question
how about perry fewell nyg d coordiantor with superbowl hard ware and a wining interim hc stint (i think)
I do think the chip kelly thing is interesting as well, love to see that duck offense with tp6 ej manual or geno smith pulling the trigger
November 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
9th ranked offense in the league last year not 16th.You need a boot in your eye.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Colts had one freaking bad season over the last 12 years and thats because there was not 1 good guy to back up PM, LUCK >> Jim SOrgi and the other 3rd stringers they had
NO moron..Horrible = #1 overall pick.Damn your a fkn retard.
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You d9ck sucker , that is why they had # 1 p9ck , because they had so much drop off in talent from Peyton to their back up, Luck is better than all their back8ps
November 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
224.RaiderDuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Hi, I’m Oakfoshow. People call me Oakfoshow.
Your daughter calls me horspecker.HP for short.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
9th ranked offense in the league last year not 16th.You need a boot in your eye.
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Yards d0nt c0unt f0r points you phaggot, 16th in points scored
November 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I just voted for Carson Palmer 5 times to be in the Pro Bowl.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Is lorenzo neal a racist or a troll for calling out palmer?
……. lol crickets
November 12th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
9th ranked offense in the league last year not 16th.You need a boot in your eye.
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We were 16th in points. This season, we’re 20th, so we’ve dropped four spots. #5 passing offense, though…
November 12th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
If RM brought in a vet coach and him being a first year GM – there would have been a power struggle anyway.
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I disagree. I think a veteran coach (not necessarily a veteran HC mind you, but even a veteran DC or OC), perhaps like Joe Philbin, who came from Green Bay or otherwise had a relationship with Reggie, would have been a good choice. I don’t know enough (no one on this board does) about evaluating coaches to make a judgment, my point is that the growing pains would be exacerbated by having a rookie coach and rookie GM.
Again, I’m not on the “run the bums out” train with Reggie and DA, but from an organizational standpoint, I don’t think DA has credibility with the players because he’s a young and inexperienced guy and is clearly not holding guys accountable (except Taiwan Jones, for some reason).
We’re not dynamic, we don’t respond well. A prime example is this: Willie Smith is bad. Bergstrom may or may not be better, but why oh why don’t we have someone like a TE help out on his side? It’s been 6 games of leaving Smith to fend for himself against guys who are literally steamrolling him out there. These are adjustments a veteran coach makes, but as it stands, we’re just rebuilding…again…
November 12th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I just voted for Carson Palmer 5 times to be in the Pro Bowl.
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I will do that too
November 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic, who would be your ideal coach of the Raiders?
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good question
how about perry fewell nyg d coordiantor with superbowl hard ware and a wining interim hc stint (i think)
I do think the chip kelly thing is interesting as well, love to see that duck offense with tp6 ej manual or geno smith pulling the trigger
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Why would you want Fewell? He’s another defensive coordinator for a defense that isn’t that good. It would be like hiring Allen all over again.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
9th ranked offense in the league last year not 16th.You need a boot in your eye.
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We were 16th in points. This season, we’re 20th, so we’ve dropped four spots. #5 passing offense, though…
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like 1.2 points less , big freaking deal right lol
November 12th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Bill Simmons on the B.S. Report @ 53:04:
“Did you ever see anyone check down to more useless plays than Campbell did last night?”
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=8624490
November 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic, who would be your ideal coach of the Raiders?
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good question
how about perry fewell nyg d coordiantor with superbowl hard ware and a wining interim hc stint (i think)
I do think the chip kelly thing is interesting as well, love to see that duck offense with tp6 ej manual or geno smith pulling the trigger
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Why would you want Fewell? He’s another defensive coordinator for a defense that isn’t that good. It would be like hiring Allen all over again.
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Miss super b1tch is just idiot, why would you even ask some one who comes in after the D allowed 55 points on the board and comes in bashing the qb, he’s dumb as r9cks , you have better chance of getting a good answer from some one who have never watched football before
November 12th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Bill Simmons on the B.S. Report @ 53:04:
“Did you ever see anyone check down to more useless plays than Campbell did last night?”
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=8624490
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Would Miss super b1tch start calling Bill Simmons racist now?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic, who would be your ideal coach of the Raiders?
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good question
how about perry fewell nyg d coordiantor with superbowl hard ware and a wining interim hc stint (i think)
I do think the chip kelly thing is interesting as well, love to see that duck offense with tp6 ej manual or geno smith pulling the trigger
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Why would you want Fewell? He’s another defensive coordinator for a defense that isn’t that good. It would be like hiring Allen all over again.
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Not so fast, what if he is a better coach than d.a
I dont subscribe to the notion that you pick a coach based on what his specialty is as a coordinator.
just get the best man for the job
November 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Our problem going into this season was we were paper thin at all positions and it shows now.
the entire defense is made up of all back ups. Don’t think any of these guys would be starters on any other team in the league. We cut our two “best” players on D. and KC cut one and you don’t hear sh1t about the other. Hate to say it because I am running out of if too but these coaches minus Knapp need more time and talent.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Bill Simmons on the B.S. Report @ 53:04:
“Did you ever see anyone check down to more useless plays than Campbell did last night?”
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=8624490
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Would Miss super b1tch start calling Bill Simmons racist now?
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meet me anywher and call me that to my face keyboard gangster im local
November 12th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Simon Pegg @simonpegg
Right I’m turning in, I gotta be up at 6am so I can whale on my lateral obliques before soaping up my taut muscular body, then doing a poo.
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Is Simon Pegg Beeecham?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Our problem going into this season was we were paper thin at all positions and it shows now.
the entire defense is made up of all back ups. Don’t think any of these guys would be starters on any other team in the league. We cut our two “best” players on D. and KC cut one and you don’t hear sh1t about the other. Hate to say it because I am running out of if too but these coaches minus Knapp need more time and talent.
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These idiots are so up Hue’s ass to realize that stuff
November 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season. I’m sure there will be those that say that he should be given more time to make things work, but I dont believe in that so much. While I do feel that there are scenarios where time can be granted, in this case, I think D.A. has proven one singular thing, and it is that he is NOT the right man to be head coach of this football team. Period. The bottom line is that this team has regressed in EVERY facet of the game since this man took over as head coach. EVERY facet. He has FAILED. There is no other way to put it. With that said, what has D.A. done to warrant one more year?
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1) Players cannot be properly developed when you’re constantly whipsawing them between this coach and that coach. New assistants, new philosophy, new playcalls, new everything. The average fan doesn’t understand how much your entire team really starts from zero every time you bring a new coach and staff in.
2) Al’s quick hook with coaches was part of the reason he wasn’t able to hire anyone decent (except Gruden) during the last two decades of his life. The entire league is watching to see what Reggie does. He fires DA without a darn good (like 0-16 season) cause, and it’s back to us settling for the dregs of the coaching pool.
3) Reggie and DA came into a horrible, unprecedented scenario. Give them time.
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On point 1, we can look at what Indy has done. They have a 1st yr. coach with a 1st yr. QB and 4 lineman out. In fact they are being coached by the FILL IN coach FOR the 1st yr. HC and they’re 6-3.
On point 2 i agree, which is why i didn’t even want Cable ousted..then Hue. Sick of having a new HC every dang year.
On point 3 i don’t agree this is an unprecedented bad situation. That’s a tuff sell statement when the team inherited was one defensive stop from winning the division and remains bascially the same team. There are reasons why everyone says it was a “mirage” etc. but it was what it was.
That being said, I am not for firing DA due to your point # 2. I don’t think he deserves it cuz the team is regressing to historically awful proportions. This is NOT what we were told to expect. We were told we would “get better every day”.
We’re getting worse…much worse.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
lol macdouchebag
is lorenzo neal a racist or a troll for callig out palmer after the defense gave up 55 points
November 12th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Bill Simmons on the B.S. Report @ 53:04:
“Did you ever see anyone check down to more useless plays than Campbell did last night?”
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=8624490
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Would Miss super b1tch start calling Bill Simmons racist now?
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meet me anywher and call me that to my face keyboard gangster im local
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HAHAHAHA dude is hypocrite as they come , remember it wasn’t me who started calling you names first , it was you who started with Mcidiot, mcfaggen , dude is just a trip , did you take your meds today
November 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
197.John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season. I’m sure there will be those that say that he should be given more time to make things work, but I dont believe in that so much. While I do feel that there are scenarios where time can be granted, in this case, I think D.A. has proven one singular thing, and it is that he is NOT the right man to be head coach of this football team. Period. The bottom line is that this team has regressed in EVERY facet of the game since this man took over as head coach. EVERY facet. He has FAILED. There is no other way to put it. With that said, what has D.A. done to warrant one more year?
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Exactly my point! If you’re so hard core that you fire Hue jackson wouldn’t you get someone clearly better suited than he is. I mean that coach went 8-8 in his rookie season and was FIRED! Unless you have someone in mind who is definitely better, why do it?
When Reg fired Hue I was absolutely sure he had someone already in mind who was a lock to do a better job. Only to find out he had no one in particular at all but goes on a coach search and comes up with this gem……..lol
November 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Maybe Palmer can field punts. We need one of those…
November 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
lol macdouchebag
is lorenzo neal a racist or a troll for callig out palmer after the defense gave up 55 points
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Did he blame the whole game on Palmer? does he keep on talking about Palmer all day long ?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
D.A is on the hot seat and rightfully so, this is joe bugel bad.
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It really is. I have been a big DA supporter, I thought it was an excellent hire, but that was EMBARRASING out there. And when Harbaugh goes for fake FG up 41-17 to run it up? That is the league saying we don’t respect you.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
A smart coach would have Palmer playing gunner…
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
197.John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans. The product that he is responsible for coaching has been historically bad, in terms of this franchise. As of this moment, what reason does anyone give as to why D.A. should not be fired immediately after this season. I’m sure there will be those that say that he should be given more time to make things work, but I dont believe in that so much. While I do feel that there are scenarios where time can be granted, in this case, I think D.A. has proven one singular thing, and it is that he is NOT the right man to be head coach of this football team. Period. The bottom line is that this team has regressed in EVERY facet of the game since this man took over as head coach. EVERY facet. He has FAILED. There is no other way to put it. With that said, what has D.A. done to warrant one more year?
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Exactly my point! If you’re so hard core that you fire Hue jackson wouldn’t you get someone clearly better suited than he is. I mean that coach went 8-8 in his rookie season and was FIRED! Unless you have someone in mind who is definitely better, why do it?
When Reg fired Hue I was absolutely sure he had someone already in mind who was a lock to do a better job. Only to find out he had no one in particular at all but goes on a coach search and comes up with this gem……..lol
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It’s simple , he wanted to go a different direction, came in from a successful franchise, you don’t freaking scrap your plans because some one went 8-8 and 1-4 in last 5 , same like you don’t design your scheme around IR prone player
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Jlofty that would be funny as he11 if it wasn’t solo true!!
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
LOL, Mistic is trying to be a tough guy now.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Wow, JMac giving out a D- to the ST’s. Must be feeling generous today.
A muffed punt, a KO return for a TD and a fake FG for a TD. What do you have to do to get an F??
November 12th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
lol macdouchebag
is lorenzo neal a racist or a troll for callig out palmer after the defense gave up 55 points
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Did he blame the whole game on Palmer? does he keep on talking about Palmer all day long ?
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lmfao
no one has blames it all on plamer you only say people do to avoid looking at palmers own warts
Lo is on tv an hour at a time not all day
you are a liar and a troll you called me names i hit you back
you called me a b1tch but you are too much of a puzzie to say it to my face
lol at internet mobsters
is neal a racist and a troll too?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Wow. What a thumping. Now what ?
Amazingly, as bad as the final score was – I actually saw some stuff on offense that was an improvement over past weeks.
Not nearly enough to overcome this horribly inept pass defense, but I thought the offense had a semblance of a pulse.
Tip of the hat to Marcel Reese. Ran hard, caught well and played a solid game. Good versatile player.
Defense just incredibly bad. Some decent efforts stopping the run, but the entire secondary is just a sieve. Absence of a pass rush and poorly timed blitzes from 20 yards behind the LOS compounds this problem.
Tits Allen is in over his head and should be worried about retaining his job.
Let’s not forget he was hired as a defensive coach and the last 2 weeks have been historically bad. Completely unacceptable. And of course, he’s got to be held accountable for the Krapp hire.
There’s so many problems and so many instances of player failure, that I’m reluctant to single out any single individual and roast him.
But Josie Hansen deserves to be called out.
Listen IDIOT, your team is getting BLOWN OUT and you’re talking trash ? I don’t care how fired up you are or how excited you are over defending a single play – there is no room for playing the fool and talking sht, like a complete moron, at that moment.
Trash talking, undisciplined azzclown. Can’t blame Harbaugh for running the fake FG afterwards and smiling.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
lol saint… only thing that saved ST is Jano and way to many good punt’s by Shane.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
LOL, Mistic is trying to be a tough guy now.
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i dont have to try to do anything
ANY AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPEN INVITATION TO MEET UP WITH ME. WE CAN EITHER TALK FOOTBALL HAVE BEER AND HAVE FUN DEBATING AS RAIDER FANS
OR YOU CAN CALL ME NAMES TO MY FACE AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
Im local from oakland lets make it happen
November 12th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
lol macdouchebag
is lorenzo neal a racist or a troll for callig out palmer after the defense gave up 55 points
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Did he blame the whole game on Palmer? does he keep on talking about Palmer all day long ?
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lmfao
no one has blames it all on plamer you only say people do to avoid looking at palmers own warts
Lo is on tv an hour at a time not all day
you are a liar and a troll you called me names i hit you back
you called me a b1tch but you are too much of a puzzie to say it to my face
lol at internet mobsters
is neal a racist and a troll too?
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hahaha internet mobsters? i didn’t act all that tough, hey meet me some where i will do this or that, just giving the same treatment that you gave me , don’t be a hypocrite, if you can dish it , take it as well b1tch… so are other people stupid like Kurt Warner because they don’t agree on your point?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
But Josie Hansen deserves to be called out.
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Yeah it was dumb, but Hansen got mad at something Bolden did a couple of plays earlier. That explains his behavior on that play.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
LOL, Mistic is trying to be a tough guy now.
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i dont have to try to do anything
ANY AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPEN INVITATION TO MEET UP WITH ME. WE CAN EITHER TALK FOOTBALL HAVE BEER AND HAVE FUN DEBATING AS RAIDER FANS
OR YOU CAN CALL ME NAMES TO MY FACE AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
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Why don’t you go find Carson Palmer and tell him to his face what you think about him? I’d like to see you get your ass kicked.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
LOL, Mistic is trying to be a tough guy now.
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i dont have to try to do anything
ANY AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPEN INVITATION TO MEET UP WITH ME. WE CAN EITHER TALK FOOTBALL HAVE BEER AND HAVE FUN DEBATING AS RAIDER FANS
OR YOU CAN CALL ME NAMES TO MY FACE AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
Im local from oakland lets make it happen
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HAHAHAHA at talk football , i would rather talk football with some one who have never watched a football game in his life then with a guy who got an agenda
November 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Hue was fired for what he did off the field
d.a should be fired for what is happening on the field
both have proven that hc may be out of their grasp and above their heads at the moment
November 12th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Hue was fired for what he did off the field
d.a should be fired for what is happening on the field
both have proven that hc may be out of their grasp and above their heads at the moment
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Yeah , only Palmer is responsible for week 17 debacle
November 12th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
LOL, Mistic is trying to be a tough guy now.
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i dont have to try to do anything
ANY AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPEN INVITATION TO MEET UP WITH ME. WE CAN EITHER TALK FOOTBALL HAVE BEER AND HAVE FUN DEBATING AS RAIDER FANS
OR YOU CAN CALL ME NAMES TO MY FACE AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
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Why don’t you go find Carson Palmer and tell him to his face what you think about him? I’d like to see you get your ass kicked.
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lol i have no fear of carson and would tell him exactly what i thought of him
November 12th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Hue was fired for what he did off the field
d.a should be fired for what is happening on the field
both have proven that hc may be out of their grasp and above their heads at the moment
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Yeah , only Palmer is responsible for week 17 debacle
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no but he ended the game on a miserable pick
meet me so you can talk shid to my face puzzie
November 12th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Damn Mistic… sounds like fun. But lets do this my way.
We hook up and have a few beers and bullsh1t about football.
start to argue and get ready to fight. But before we fight we fire up
a big ole blunt of some of that fine Cali weed and just chill have another
cold beer and agree to disagree.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Here’s what i look at it.. Hue’s expertise was O , and he took advantage of an ultra talented RB and devised his scheme around him
DA’s expertise is D but who does he have to devise his Defensive scheme around? Mcclain? Seymour ? Kelly?
He believes in ZBS, it’s good when its working but obviously he hired the wrong guy and/or the OL lacks talent
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
that is the difference between real oakland natives and out of towners
real cats from the town dont say things on blogs they would never say to your face. the code of the street
out of towners talk ish from behind the keyboard and would never dare to utter a word face to face
suburbanites lol
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
that is the difference between real oakland natives and out of towners
real cats from the town dont say things on blogs they would never say to your face. the code of the street
out of towners talk ish from behind the keyboard and would never dare to utter a word face to face
suburbanites lol
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LMAO
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Damn Mistic… sounds like fun. But lets do this my way.
We hook up and have a few beers and bullsh1t about football.
start to argue and get ready to fight. But before we fight we fire up
a big ole blunt of some of that fine Cali weed and just chill have another
cold beer and agree to disagree.
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im with you bra
i dont care about disagreements about football and athletes, that is the fun of being a sports fan.
we should be able to debate get heated and still have fun.
besides these athletes and owners dont care about us, they are counting millions and billions and sports in the large scale is meaningless entertainment
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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BOth REG AND D ALLEN believe in ZBS , so they decided to go with a different coach ??? understand ???? and we lack talent on D, which would have killed us again, if HUE was here and still scoring , we would have allowed points on D next drive , Understood? NO??
November 12th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Bay Area News Group/ Oakland Raiders
Raiders coach Dennis Allen says assistant coaches are being evaluated, but no wholesale changes are in order.
http://bit.ly/VYyp21
November 12th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Lions awarded Patrick Lee off waivers from Raiders
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Lions opted for Pat Lee over Routt.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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exactly presitt,
hu jack was fired for off the field reasons
d.a is not delivering on the field and that is even worse
defense is his calling card but they are historically bad\\
this dude you are arguing with was all over bresnanahn but he gives d.a a pass?
hmmm i smell an agenda
November 12th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
The defense has done some nice things this year. Unfortunately, they just don’t quality guys lining up every week. I expect at least 6 new starters on the defense next season.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Hue was fired for what he did off the field
d.a should be fired for what is happening on the field
both have proven that hc may be out of their grasp and above their heads at the moment
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Yeah , only Palmer is responsible for week 17 debacle
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no but he ended the game on a miserable pick
meet me so you can talk shid to my face puzzie
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yeah Palmer should have known before the play , ford is going to fall down on the come back , maybe he should have thrown to right where he think ford would fall at?
and i would kick ur ass anytime but that’s not what i come here for.. the difference is i don’t even let things like this get to my head, online is nothing to get mad at, i always just laugh every time you call me , Mcfaggen or idiot , because name calling doesn’t mean anything online , but damn man you should check up ur head if some one calls you a name and you get all riled up , and look at your hypocrisy man , this is why some one can never talk to you about football
November 12th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
ABP.. could be a money thing. Probably got Lee a whole lot cheaper.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Hue was fired for what he did off the field
d.a should be fired for what is happening on the field
both have proven that hc may be out of their grasp and above their heads at the moment
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Yeah , only Palmer is responsible for week 17 debacle
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no but he ended the game on a miserable pick
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You mean the pick where Ford fell down on his route? Really that is a horrible pick and Carson’s fault? Like he should have known that Ford was going to fall down?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Seymour: Gone
Kelly: Gone
McClain: Gone
Giordano: Gone
Bartell: Gone
Branch: ?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
that is the difference between real oakland natives and out of towners
real cats from the town dont say things on blogs they would never say to your face. the code of the street
out of towners talk ish from behind the keyboard and would never dare to utter a word face to face
suburbanites lol
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LMAO you guys are just too stupid if you let things like online name calling get to your head, this is why all the other towns are better than Oaktown i guess,
and beside all that if you can dish it , you should be able to take it, no? isn’t that how it goes like in Oaktown?
November 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Palmer is on pace for 4,841 yards, which would eclipse Rich Gannon’s franchise record (4,689, 2002).
We should blame him for all the losses, that makes sense. lol
November 12th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Well, I am man enough to admit when I’m WRONG. And I sure was, when I predicted Ray Rice would probably carve us last Friday…
The run D was about all we had going for us yesterday. I had no inkling that the pass D, and special teams could be so terrible.
Not going to lay blame on the Coaching staff here, I suspect that somehow it is all #Palmersfault..
“With the 5th pick in the 2013 draft, the Oakland Raiders select,….Manti Te’o, linebacker. Notre Dame”
There, I said it
November 12th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Reggie McMILLEN has been an EmbarASSment from the opening press conference when he was asked about the Oakland roster and claimed “he wasn’t up on the roster and needed to see who was on it”… Shouldn’t the GM of 1 of 32 teams know the players on EVERY roster? Since that is a huge part of the pool you’ll be hiring from?
Hell there is Fantasy Football guys who knew more about the rosters around the NFL than our new guy…Pathetic.
he was more concerned with whacking Hue and every member of Al’s regime, than getting started on the roster. Hell he changed the decor at Harbor Pkwy before he got going.
Dude is a chump…I SERIOUSLY DOUBT Chicago EVER had him in their sites.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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BOth REG AND D ALLEN believe in ZBS , so they decided to go with a different coach ??? understand ???? and we lack talent on D, which would have killed us again, if HUE was here and still scoring , we would have allowed points on D next drive , Understood? NO??
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How do you know who the DC is? Forget Hue Jackson dumbass I’m focused on the GUY HE HIRED. He did not have a a coach in waiting GET IT! I know he had to go through the protocol for hiring but everybody who fires a decent coach knows how to get a someone better suited. Or else why are we firing anybody?
I’m saying bring in a solid knowledgeable experienced coach to help you right the ship instead of some newbie anybody can do that.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Slow down, boys…
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
197.John David Booty Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’m curious myself as to what exactly it is that D.A. has brought thus far to warrant any degree of loyalty from Raiders fans./. He has FAILED…
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Exactly my point! If you’re so hard core that you fire Hue jackson wouldn’t you get someone clearly better suited than he is. I mean that coach went 8-8 in his rookie season and was FIRED!
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Guys…it’s not what DA has done to this point. It’s what DA will do by the end of the season.
HueJax didn’t get canned because he finished 8-8. That fool got fired for HOW he finished 8-8.
And, BHP — Do you have an ownership interest in Hue’s favorite Salon or something? Give it up already…he was a loud, brash, competent Coach, but not a very good Head Coach, in the opinion of many (including his boss).
If Hue worried about football as much as he worried about his mani/pedicures, we may have been a Playoff Team last year. 8-8?? Pffft.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
We’ll its dinner time here so I am out.
have a great night NATION!! see ya in the A.M.
GreenParty rules!!
FEAR THE TURTLE!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Mistic,
You’re obviously a person of intelligence which is why I am baffled as to why you have chosen the path of playing the annoying guy whose sole purpose is to instigate and rile with this incessant Palmer bashing and not really talk about anything else.
Why not take the path of legitmately talking about the entire team, including the defense, coaching, linemen. special teams, etc. etc. etc.
I don’t believe you are a Raider fan and that’s fine. You have a right to root for whomever you want. I wish you’d own up to it, but whatever.
You don’t need play the role of the blog dik. If that was your intention…congratulations… you’ve succeeded.
We all understand how you feel about Palmer. For god’s sake give it a rest.
The definition of “troll” from what i read is “one who INTENTIONALLY instigates negativity on an internet blog or forum”.
That is exactly what you’re doing.
We get it. We know where you stand on Palmer. Show us you’ve got something else in your repotoire.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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exactly presitt,
hu jack was fired for off the field reasons
d.a is not delivering on the field and that is even worse
defense is his calling card but they are historically bad\\
this dude you are arguing with was all over bresnanahn but he gives d.a a pass?
hmmm i smell an agenda
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Your really stupid , if you haven’t checked my earlier posts, i have pointed out i was in favor of hue and thought he can do something with a better D.co.. but they went in a different direction , so stop crying over spilled milk, you guys are just too insensitive to everything
November 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
So, McMILLEN then hires a guy with ZERO head coaching experience at ANY LEVEL.
has 1 interview, with 1 guy, that he ends up hiring, is freakin’ criminal negligence.
Couldn’t be bothered to interview any other potential candidates?
Too busy ordering extra wide office chairs for his phat a z z?
This guy is a fraud, 18 years as an assistant was for a reason, he was NEVER GM material.
Don’t expect Mark to know this, cause he’s got ZERO knowledge about football ops.
Hoping someone steals this team out from under the Davis’s just like Al did to the McGah’s.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I think Mistic is just happy now because he has surpassed KoolKell in blog personality super stardom.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
So, McMILLEN then hires a guy with ZERO head coaching experience at ANY LEVEL.
has 1 interview, with 1 guy, that he ends up hiring, is freakin’ criminal negligence.
Couldn’t be bothered to interview any other potential candidates?
Too busy ordering extra wide office chairs for his phat a z z?
This guy is a fraud, 18 years as an assistant was for a reason, he was NEVER GM material.
Don’t expect Mark to know this, cause he’s got ZERO knowledge about football ops.
Hoping someone steals this team out from under the Davis’s just like Al did to the McGah’s.
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If McKenzie is a fraud, I guess not many Raider fans will notice since we are so used to having a fraud GM run our team.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
and i would kick ur ass anytime but…..
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what a puzzie
lol i rest my case
November 12th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Now if Hue had made the playoffs and won some games in it , the thing would be different, you don’t just come in and work with some one who was hired by previous GM and only went 8-8 LMAO at some posters
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It’s OK to go with a different coach IF you know that coach is decidedly better man for the job. It take a few post to get a point through you concrete head. I have no problem if he had someone in mind decidely BETTER get it?
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BOth REG AND D ALLEN believe in ZBS , so they decided to go with a different coach ??? understand ???? and we lack talent on D, which would have killed us again, if HUE was here and still scoring , we would have allowed points on D next drive , Understood? NO??
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How do you know who the DC is? Forget Hue Jackson dumbass I’m focused on the GUY HE HIRED. He did not have a a coach in waiting GET IT! I know he had to go through the protocol for hiring but everybody who fires a decent coach knows how to get a someone better suited. Or else why are we firing anybody?
I’m saying bring in a solid knowledgeable experienced coach to help you right the ship instead of some newbie anybody can do that.
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There really wasn’t any other good candidate out there, plus don’t be confused by last years 8-8 ,we really weren’t that good, the reason why our D still s8cks because we still have same freaking players, Wheeler Bartell and Spencer came on 1 year contracts for a reason, still same pass rush problem, if Hue was here, maybe we might have scored a few more points, but that wouldn’t have stopped the other teams from scoring more , I’m talking about teams with GOOD QB’s, this team needs a year with some money to work with and some draft picks to work with
November 12th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
YO YO YO THE BEEECH DAWG IS BACK BOOOO-YAAAAH
Whut up Blog Nerds
You can all rest easy now, the BIG DAWG of the BLOG is back in the hizzy and ready to resume his classic Dweeb Beatdowns
Ahhh yeah Albert, that was just some tinkle you dropped in your undies
Had a DOPE EPIC party weekend, my ocean-smooth reggae band Rasta Ganja played on a Mega Yacht in San Diego
Played the whole show in just a muscle-T and a pair of Reeboks, so the Beeech Lawg got a major sunburn
And, of course (holla), the Beeech Digs got some major play from a few tanned yacht bunnies
Got a major BJ while I performed “finger-bang” style penetration on 2 fly hizzies
Then all 3 tossed my salad while the DJ played Total Eclipse of the Heart
That song always makes the Beeech Dawg tear up, shout out to Lil Wayne
WRECKS N EFFECT PULLIN’ MAJOR LA ‘TUDE
November 12th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Mumbles could have interviewed Jeff Fisher, , Winston Moss…anyone who actually has NFL experience as a HC or as a player that might have some credibility w/ the team.
Instead we got a whiny little guy that “harps” on things so much, the players have tuned him out by week 9…
Big whiff on this hiring Reg, Along with the swing and miss on Bergstron, with our 1st pick in the draft, any Copetent owner would be working the phones looking for replacements…
Of course, that’s if we actually had COMPETENT OWNERSHIP! Which we don’t…
November 12th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
For those of you who think Reggie is a fraud
Blame these guys:
John Madden, Ron Wolf and Ken Herock…
I like Reggie and DA.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Internet threats are the quickest to get you banned from this blog.
I’m copying and pasting all the threats being made and they’re going stright to Becker.
Nice goin’.
November 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Hue jackson is no longer the issue here, I’m pissed because this moron went out and got someone who IMO pales in the previous coaches comparison.
Hue had a long wya to go to learn HC edicate and some say he would never have learned it, I’m not of that camp. However if you gave me a coach like Jeff Fisher or Bill Belichik I’d FIRE HUE JACKSON on the spot. Because I know and watched Hue screw up royally even when we won. You can’t do that.
But get me a real coach in here so I can get at least a little interested in watching my team on SUNDAY!
November 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Etiquette*
November 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
I blame Mark Davis…
He listened to 2 RETIREES who had been out of the game for years…
Why would they have ANY insight into the current NFL landscape?
What he should have done was hire a Pres. Of Operations and let That guy hire the GM.
Mark, excuses himself from blame by claiming, “I know what I don’t know” about the NFL, and let’s face it, that is a lot…Al kept him out of the family biz for a reason, and now he’ just milking it for some financial gain before he sells it…
He’s fooling everyone into thinking he gives a crap, but, it’s obvious from his lack of Due Dilligence in hiring told me that…
November 12th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I’ll reserve my judgement of both Reggie and DA, once year two is up.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Listening to mcf20 try to defend reasobs as to why DA should be given a second chance reminds me of Romney trying to defeend his “jeep is shipping jobs to china” claim. Lol Is a waist of time trying to argue the point, for romney it was pointless because everyone knew he wa lying for Mcf20 its pointless because everyone can see DA is not, he answer. Its clear as day he’s not a leader of men, he looks to me to be the norv turner version of a dc. Hood coordinator but awful hc.Matter of fact i think he’ worse. The coaching staff he hired is a joke, our Oc is trash, Dc, is trash, st coordinator is trash. Smh Across the board Da a.d reggie fd up, they must be held accountable.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Apologies for all the typos…
November 12th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Maybe I am being too positive but despite our D’s problems, we are probably two or three plays away from being 5-4 and winning three of our last four.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
dennis allen should be fired on week 16.
a decent coach…. a decent defensive coach, should not get scored on for 100 points in a span of 2 weeks.