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Live chat: What’s wrong with the Raiders? Tuesday at noon

By Jon Becker
Monday, November 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am in Oakland Raiders.

Join Steve Corkran for a Raiders live chat Tuesday at noon as he dissects the lopsided loss in Baltimore and looks ahead to what’s next.

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  • MikieG

    We fired Hue??? For This!!!?!?!?!

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Too many things are wrong.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Marks hair Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Carolina will take clowney or jones.. like we could have if we excepted the rebuild and played tp.. wasted yr..
    =========

    rember how 99% of the board was all in a tizzy because some of us suggested that this was a rebuild in the pre season?

    Lol most of them have jumped ship or they rarely post now

  • Marks hair

    Stupid..

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    If carson doesnt start winning and avoiding the turnovers what will his legacy be?

    he has lost every maningful game he has played for us, including the int ending our season last year.

    Including the last two weeks that we needed to keep our season alive.

    i dont think anyone outside of this board will care about yardage totals when all is sadi and done and we are once again elemanted from contention.

    That didnt save jeff george, or kerry collins, and it wont save palmer.

    win or your out, that is how the nfl works for aging vet qbs

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    What’s Wrong with the Raiders:

    1) Too many check-cashing slugs on defense, particularly Seymour, Kelly and McClain.

    2) Cruddy o-line coaching.

    3) Mike Brisiel and Willie Smith.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    MikieG Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    We fired Hue??? For This!!!?!?!?!

    ========

    that was the 2nd thing, after our owner only interviewed one candidate for the GM job

  • Marks hair

    Yup.. ill post it one last time for the dumbest monkeys.. its a rebuild!!!

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    If carson doesnt start winning and avoiding the turnovers what will his legacy be?

    he has lost every maningful game he has played for us, including the int ending our season last year.

    Including the last two weeks that we needed to keep our season alive.

    i dont think anyone outside of this board will care about yardage totals when all is sadi and done and we are once again elemanted from contention.

    That didnt save jeff george, or kerry collins, and it wont save palmer.

    win or your out, that is how the nfl works for aging vet qbs
    ——-
    Aaron Rodgers couldn’t win with this Raider team. The Atlanta game is the only one that Palmer made a mistake that cost us the game.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am
    Yup.. ill post it one last time for the dumbest monkeys.. its a rebuild!!!

    ==========================================

    Too many people on this blog don’t know what that means, or they think it’s an evil NFL plot.

  • mcfadden20.

    Hey Mistic so which qb will carolina take with the #1 pick

  • Marks hair

    We should have traded cp3 and dmac in a predeadline firesale… just stupid and arogant.. this was never a team with a chance to contend this yr.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am
    MikieG Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    We fired Hue??? For This!!!?!?!?!

    ========

    that was the 2nd thing, after our owner only interviewed one candidate for the GM job

    =========================================

    And said candidate would have been hired the next day by Chicago if Mark had passed. He had to make a decision right then, and Reggie came highly recommended by both Ron Wolf and John Madden.

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic’s posts are irrelevant since he keeps flopping with his “wave of future qbs”

  • J Hill

    Our safties are terrible!

    THAT is how our defense gives up 50 pts.

  • bcz24

    Rebuild… Hell we were basically an expansion team!

  • Marks hair

    Mc20.. post 3

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    things are getting tense in here. please try to think of pro football as a hobby where you have no influence over the outcome. Now pro-wrestling, that´s another matter, cheer harder and your fab wrestler might win…woooo hooo!

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    If this is a rebuild why is Palmer the Qb, R Seymour & Kelly on the DL, DMAC still on roster?
    ______

    Marks hair Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Yup.. ill post it one last time for the dumbest monkeys.. its a rebuild!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    Cam Newton –sucks
    Griffin sucks
    Wilson 5-5 okay but top 5 D and top 5 run O , he should be 10-0 BIg ben was 13-0 with same support

    Freeman = got mvp player on his team

    JC couldn’t put up a TD with the whole half time last night

    who else did i miss?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    If carson doesnt start winning and avoiding the turnovers what will his legacy be?

    he has lost every maningful game he has played for us, including the int ending our season last year.

    Including the last two weeks that we needed to keep our season alive.

    i dont think anyone outside of this board will care about yardage totals when all is sadi and done and we are once again elemanted from contention.

    That didnt save jeff george, or kerry collins, and it wont save palmer.

    win or your out, that is how the nfl works for aging vet qbs
    ——-
    Aaron Rodgers couldn’t win with this Raider team. The Atlanta game is the only one that Palmer made a mistake that cost us the game.
    ==============

    speculative comparisons mean zero in the nfl it is fact driven business

    i doubt highly big mack sits in his office thinking about what other qbs on other teams would do with the raiders, unless he considering trading or signing them

    no in fact he is analyzing palmer based on palmer.

    i warned that palmer was on an extended tryout as we were stuck with him this year, that will not hold true going into next year.

    This is common in every nfl city even though fellow poster will not accept it

    palmer wins or he is out soon

  • Marks hair

    The top 2 int safeties in college play for fresno st.. a combined 14 in 11 games.

  • mcfadden20.

    He have flopped with all those qb’s , so he’s irrevelant in his Palmer takes, Mistic doesn’t know about QB’s

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Cant blame JaJason Campbell, he played last night with nobodies like forte, marshall and hester… he played a mighty game given the circumstances.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I thought we had a chance to compete for the division just because the AFC West is weak. In retrospect, I wish Reggie would have dumped more guys and traded DMac. He was kind of stuck with Palmer. You can’t just cut a guy who was traded for a #1 and #2 pick. I would have rather seen a 2-14 season than a 6-10 one.

  • fingers

    Our safety’s are worse than terrible….. Couldn’t agree more

  • Marks hair

    19.. i answered that in post 12.. its because of stupidity and arogance.

  • mcfadden20.

    Palmer 15 TD – 9 Int , with the worst D in the league and worst running game , think i’ll take that over any guy that will come out of the Draft or TP

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    The entire defense sucks you moron why are you singling out the safeties ?
    _____

    J Hill Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Our safties are terrible!

    THAT is how our defense gives up 50 pts.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    At the end of the day big mack wants to keep his job.

    This means that every one under him that fails will get the axe first because football is a business and shid rolls down hill.

    Big mack cant allow dennis allen, greg knapp jason tarver, carson palmer, cooper Carlisle, willie smith or the water boy continue to lose and think he can keep his gig.

    I know this strikes a nerve here but carson is being who he always has been a human blooper reel that cant win

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    LOL…ok I cant argue with that.
    _____

    Marks hair Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    19.. i answered that in post 12.. its because of stupidity and arogance.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    speculative comparisons mean zero in the nfl it is fact driven business

    i doubt highly big mack sits in his office thinking about what other qbs on other teams would do with the raiders, unless he considering trading or signing them

    ——
    That’s what you do all the time. You spend all your time speculating about the abilities of 2nd and 3rd string QBs.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    should have also traded our probowlers: lechler and condo, would have garnered a bunch of 1st round picks. dammnit!

  • mcfadden20.

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Cant blame JaJason Campbell, he played last night with nobodies like forte, marshall and hester… he played a mighty game given the circumstances.

    —-

    HAHAHAHA that’s another Mistic flop

    we can’t take Mistic serious on his qb takes any more

    that’s like asking Mike Brown what play should Lakers dial up in the crunch time

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    RaiderDuck Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:24 am
    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am
    MikieG Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    We fired Hue??? For This!!!?!?!?!

    ========

    that was the 2nd thing, after our owner only interviewed one candidate for the GM job

    =========================================

    And said candidate would have been hired the next day by Chicago if Mark had passed. He had to make a decision right then, and Reggie came highly recommended by both Ron Wolf and John Madden.

    ===========

    based on what? The Bears didn’t even bother interviewing him…Wow! Highly recommended…Gives you such a warm fuzzy feeling inside…Jimmy Johnson use to highly recommend Norver Turner & Dave Wadnstandt

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Palmer 15 TD – 9 Int , with the worst D in the league and worst running game , think i’ll take that over any guy that will come out of the Draft or TP
    ==========

    lol

    the front office is counting total turn overs not just picks

    15 tds 12 turn overs

    they are also looking at his overall body of work as a a raider not just this season

    19 games 31 turnovers

    the truth hurts

  • Marks hair

    Krapp rolling his eyes at cp3 tells you what our coaches know about putting players in the best position for sucsess.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    At the end of the day big mack wants to keep his job.

    This means that every one under him that fails will get the axe first because football is a business and shid rolls down hill.

    Big mack cant allow dennis allen, greg knapp jason tarver, carson palmer, cooper Carlisle, willie smith or the water boy continue to lose and think he can keep his gig.

    I know this strikes a nerve here but carson is being who he always has been a human blooper reel that cant win

    ==========================================

    You are aware that with either Leinart or TP under center, we’d be 0-9 right now and would probably have lost every game by 4 – 5 touchdowns, right?

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    i warned that palmer was on an extended tryout as we were stuck with him this year, that will not hold true going into next year.

    This is common in every nfl city even though fellow poster will not accept it

    palmer wins or he is out soon
    —–
    That is true. I agree that Palmer is not our future. He will be ready to retire before the Raiders are any good. However, JC wasn’t the future, and neither is Pryor.

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    At the end of the day big mack wants to keep his job.

    This means that every one under him that fails will get the axe first because football is a business and shid rolls down hill.

    Big mack cant allow dennis allen, greg knapp jason tarver, carson palmer, cooper Carlisle, willie smith or the water boy continue to lose and think he can keep his gig.

    I know this strikes a nerve here but carson is being who he always has been a human blooper reel that cant win

    =====
    LOL, I think REG will not ask some one what to do who have continuously s8cked on his QB takes

    haahha Carolina # 1 pick

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    speculative comparisons mean zero in the nfl it is fact driven business

    i doubt highly big mack sits in his office thinking about what other qbs on other teams would do with the raiders, unless he considering trading or signing them

    ——
    That’s what you do all the time. You spend all your time speculating about the abilities of 2nd and 3rd string QBs.
    ============

    speculation ends when the payer hits the field, that is how nfl players are judged

    your speculative comparisons only sooth your wounded heart as your golden hair hero falters week after week

  • wishbone

    What is the point of having TP on the roster if he is gonna be inactive every week? If Reggie & DA think so little of this guy then cut him loose. Why not give Taiwan a ton of carries yesterday. So what if he fumbles. It wouldn’t have changed the game. Reggie and DA wanna blame Al for being hamstrung, but that doesn’t ex[lain the pure lack of effort on Defense which is supposed to be DA’s thing. I think DA has completely lost the team and what little respect they had for him in the beginning is gone. Time to clean house again, but this time get rid of the overpaid, underachieving, overrated players like McClain, Kelly, Seymour, Briesel, Carlisle & Curry. Time to cut ties with Dmac and get somebody who can play 16 games.

  • fingers

    When Palmers down 20 to 3 in the 2nd qtr he’s playing from behind again….just poor play from the D and Oline..

  • mcfadden20.

    RaiderDuck Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    At the end of the day big mack wants to keep his job.

    This means that every one under him that fails will get the axe first because football is a business and shid rolls down hill.

    Big mack cant allow dennis allen, greg knapp jason tarver, carson palmer, cooper Carlisle, willie smith or the water boy continue to lose and think he can keep his gig.

    I know this strikes a nerve here but carson is being who he always has been a human blooper reel that cant win

    ==========================================

    You are aware that with either Leinart or TP under center, we’d be 0-9 right now and would probably have lost every game by 4 – 5 touchdowns, rig

    Hey he would have thrown Leinart doesn’t have 10 year experience , TP got potential his D is not good he’s not getting the blocking and he’s only in his 2nd year

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RaiderDuck Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    At the end of the day big mack wants to keep his job.

    This means that every one under him that fails will get the axe first because football is a business and shid rolls down hill.

    Big mack cant allow dennis allen, greg knapp jason tarver, carson palmer, cooper Carlisle, willie smith or the water boy continue to lose and think he can keep his gig.

    I know this strikes a nerve here but carson is being who he always has been a human blooper reel that cant win

    ==========================================

    You are aware that with either Leinart or TP under center, we’d be 0-9 right now and would probably have lost every game by 4 – 5 touchdowns, right?
    ============

    what does your specualtion mean? That simply isnt how the nfl works

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    your speculative comparisons only sooth your wounded heart as your golden hair hero falters week after week
    ——
    Palmer is not my hero. I wouldn’t care if Reggie let him go. But, I do know that he 10 x better than anything else we have right now at QB. He is the best QB the Raiders have had since Gannon.

  • Marks hair

    I like cp3 but hes old. And we are not close.. bad trade by a desperate coach. Id rather have the picks over a couple extra wins and a few extra yards in an embarrasing season.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic, who would you rather have as head coach and QB?

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Q: Why not pay TP and Taiwan and Mclain, etc, etc?
    A: Please see exhibit A: Willie Smith

    Thats why my friend.

  • mcfadden20.

    If Reg didn’t want Palmer he would have cut him with very bad statistical season for a qb coming into a new team midway according to Mistic, wave of future qb’s would have put up big #s in that situation lol