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Numerous players not practicing, including McFadden

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 at 11:54 am in Oakland Raiders.

Running back Darren McFadden is among a handful of starters not at practice today, though tight end Brandon Myers is back on the field only three days after he suffered his second concussion of the season.
McFadden and primary backup Mike Goodson are not practicing today as a result of the high-ankle sprains they suffered against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 days ago. It’s likely that coach Dennis Allen will wait until Friday before deciding whether either can play this Sunday against the New Orleans Saints.
In the interim, Taiwan Jones, Jeremy Stewart and Marcel Reece are taking snaps at running back, as they did last week during the absence of McFadden and Goodson. All three played against the Ravens.
A Yahoo Sports report said there’s a chance that McFadden will play Sunday. Soon thereafter, the same site said McFadden is “iffy” for Sunday.
It says here, if McFadden isn’t able to practice at all this week, then he isn’t playing Sunday. Also, it’s a long way from being in a walking boot Monday to playing in a game six days later.

– Myers’ return bodes well for his playing Sunday. We won’t know until after Allen addressed the media whether Myers passed all the league-mandated tests for players that suffer a concussion.
Players aren’t allowed to participate in full-contact drills or play in games until they are cleared by a doctor.
Cornerback Michael Huff also is well enough to practice today despite suffering a calf injury against the Ravens.

– Recently signed linebacker Omar Gaither is at practice today. He is wearing No. 53 and taking part in all the drills.

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour, strong safety Tyvon Branch and free safety Matt Giordano also aren’t practicing today.
Seymour missed practice all last week and didn’t play against the Ravens because of knee and hamstring issues. Branch (neck) and Giordano (concussion) suffered injuries against the Ravens.

– At one point today, Allen was quite hands on with the defense as it went through a full-unit drill. He said Monday that he has been pretty involved with the defense all along.
“I’ve been very involved in what we do game-planning-wise defensively,” Allen said. “But I’ll look at any avenue, or anything we need to do, that gives us a chance and helps us win football games.”
A short time later, Allen watched the offense go through its paces.

– Khalif Barnes is at practice today and working toward a return to the starting lineup at right offensive tackle.
Barnes missed the past seven games while recovering from a groin injury that required surgery. Allen said he expects Barnes to reclaim his spot against the Saints.
Willie Smith started the past seven games. Rookie Tony Bergstrom replaced Smith for 15 plays against the Ravens.

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  • Alex7

    KoolKell Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    3-6, rotten in the Red Zone & 3rd down. can’t take a look at Criner a 6′-3″ 221 lb WR ???????????
    ————————-
    TALK TO ME NOW, OR I’M GOING TO GO HAVE ANOTHER BLUEBERRY MUFFIN.
    DON’T SAY YOU WEREN’T WARNED.

  • mcfadden20.

    I don’t think KC will bring back Glen Dorsey , has not lived upto the draft status , probably because he’s not a fit for 3-4

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    KK Munster, when are you going to start posting Reggie’s record as GM like you did for Al ?
    ————————
    When are you going to take a bath?

  • JLofty

    “Don’t get down guys, we may go on a 6 game winning streak.”

    Omg, THANK you for that laugh. It’s been a tough week and I really that…

  • Alex7

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    KK Munster, when are you going to start posting Reggie’s record as GM like you did for Al ?
    ===========================
    Reggie’s a “brother”.
    Kell lives vicariously through “brothers” who have amounted to something, hoping it covers up for him amounting to Driving Miss Daisy.

  • nycraider

    i know i am in the minority, but while seymour and kelly havent lived up to their contracts they have never played with a de who constantly demanded double teams(wimbley certain games yes and maybe 3rd down only) and a mlb who usually is in the wrong gap and cannot support them. many people on this blog seem to expect one of them to lead this team in sacks which i typically expect a DE to do.. yes, their contracts need to be restructured, but if they are restructured and paired with a playmaker on the end with a MLB who can actually play they may be worth salvaging.

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    Alex must be drunk, or on bad meth, very aggressive and belligerent today.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Reggie is 3-6 as a GM.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Sucking on R Seymour’s jock is down right ignorant even for an imbecile like you Peymour.

  • mcfadden20.

    JLofty Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Just ignore him , i don’t know why people get into politics , race talk and ancient history with him
    _____________________________________________________

    Dude, tell me, YOU of all humans (and others) who post on this blog did NOT say that….
    My head might explode after trying to scroll through HUNDREDS of your stupid troll feeding posts with that pile….

    —-

    I only keep it football , i don’t get into other BS, which is what he has been doing for the last couple of days with other posters

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    3-6 first 2 RB’s down, can’t take a look at Taiwan Jones????????

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    KK you went hard on the brandy today, yes ?

  • mcfadden20.

    nycraider Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    i know i am in the minority, but while seymour and kelly havent lived up to their contracts they have never played with a de who constantly demanded double teams(wimbley certain games yes and maybe 3rd down only) and a mlb who usually is in the wrong gap and cannot support them. many people on this blog seem to expect one of them to lead this team in sacks which i typically expect a DE to do.. yes, their contracts need to be restructured, but if they are restructured and paired with a playmaker on the end with a MLB who can actually play they may be worth salvaging.

    —-

    I wouldn’t mind bringing them back with under 5 M for each, but anything over 5 M no way, better off Signing Glen Dorsey ,or one of the Chicago DT’s

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Peymour came in here and pooped his britches.

    lol

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Peymour came in here and pooped his britches.
    ———————-
    BrownStains talking about pooped britches…….wow. Ignorance is bliss.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    KK Munster, when you finish sweeping the barbershop go hold Peymour close she needs a hug.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Looks like the trolls are in complete utter meltdown mode. Can someone get Becker or their IP people and clean this sewer up?

  • mcfadden20.

    How does guys like Steven Jackson who’s always dragging the whole D for extra yards stay healthy all year long, yet Mcfadden always gets injured on runs to the side line

  • mcfadden20.

    It was good talking football until it lasted, later nation

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    LOL
    Peymour crying for Becker to bail him out…
    _____

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Looks like the trolls are in complete utter meltdown mode. Can someone get Becker or their IP people and clean this sewer up?

  • papertiger418

    We need to move on from DMAC. I can’t go into another season cringing every time he takes the field.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Papertiger418 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    We need to move on from DMAC. I can’t go into another season cringing every time he takes the field.
    ———————
    Yeah, at this point, I have to agree. That last injury didn’t look that bad either.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Peymour came in here and pooped his britches.
    ———————-
    BrownStains talking about pooped britches…….wow. Ignorance is bliss.
    ========================================

    He learned it a day ago when Grover Norquist the conservative deity called Rob-me a “poopy head.” We are seeing a complete SEGMENT of society melting down in front of our eyes. Quite hilarious really…

  • LA to TheBay

    I wouldn’t blam DMC for running out of bounds and taking his time coming back from injuries this year. Knapp is gonna kill his career. Again.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    I am done with MCFadden. Last year was it for me. I figured to give him the beginning of this season as a “redemption” period because he did play well at times last year. But he has been worse than ever. Get a 6th for him.

  • LA to TheBay

    DMC can’t run in a zone system. His fault for not being able to make the 2nd and 3rd reads necessary to succeed in said scheme. Coaches’ fault for knowing that and still forcing the scheme.

    DMAC will destroy people for 10-14 games a year elsewhere.

    Oh well.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    I don’t blame DMac for his yardage this year. That’s squarely on Knapp, Imo.

    It’s just the injuries, and it takes him a year to heal from sprained ankles.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    mcfadden20. Says: Yeah finding a pass rusher or 2 should be our #1 priority followed by upgrading secondary and adequate MLB, but i think team shouldn’t neglect signing a #1WR if they get the chance, i believe is going to be the only position on Offensive side that’s going to require a lot of money , because i believe RB and OL for ZBS can be found cheap or in late picks/UDFA===========

    I’d like to see Palmer play with a respectable offense, including the line. Give him a little protection and a running game. Part of that is OC, of course, but I’d spend some money on the line, center,RG and RT, with Wiz back at LG. With depth, even if it’s Cooper and Khalif as backups. Dude deserves more than lip service for the effort he’s putting in. I know the ‘D’ needs help and can’t be neglected, but I’d focus on ‘O’. If we gotta win shootouts, we got the most important piece.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    I don’t blame DMac for his yardage this year. That’s squarely on Knapp, Imo.
    ===================================

    Yeah but do you blame Knapp that McFadden has more drops than receptions? Or maybe Lance Kiffin is following the Raiders around deflating the balls.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Yeah but do you blame Knapp that McFadden has more drops than receptions?
    ———————
    Is that a fact, or just Bs?

  • mcfadden20.

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    mcfadden20. Says: Yeah finding a pass rusher or 2 should be our #1 priority followed by upgrading secondary and adequate MLB, but i think team shouldn’t neglect signing a #1WR if they get the chance, i believe is going to be the only position on Offensive side that’s going to require a lot of money , because i believe RB and OL for ZBS can be found cheap or in late picks/UDFA===========

    I’d like to see Palmer play with a respectable offense, including the line. Give him a little protection and a running game. Part of that is OC, of course, but I’d spend some money on the line, center,RG and RT, with Wiz back at LG. With depth, even if it’s Cooper and Khalif as backups. Dude deserves more than lip service for the effort he’s putting in. I know the ‘D’ needs help and can’t be neglected, but I’d focus on ‘O’. If we gotta win shootouts, we got the most important piece.

    —-

    we will def upgrade all those positions on the Oline and will find a good rb for ZBS, just saying that it won’t require a lot of money for those positions and can be found in late draft picks, just the WR position will have to be taken care of in FA

  • LA to TheBay

    I’d just like to see Palmer play with run support. Passing 25-35 times per game with play action being more of a threat.

    Took a good thing from past years and wrecked it. The Raiders were able to run the ball well 07, 08, 09, 10, 11. It was about the only thing we could do well.

    Our O Line was one of the best in the league.

    So naturally, we scrapped all that in favor of…. 3-6? Greg Knapp? Zone blocking?

    Zone blocking is for teams without a DMC. For plug and play guys. Arian Foster was a plug and play guy that has become a star, like a lot of other guys that shined in that system.

    It’s not a bad system.

    But when you have road graders and a one cut, one read powerful, lightning fast RB… why change?

    Dumb.

    Reg was probably second guessing himself as soon as DA came to him and said “Good news, Reggie, I managed to hire Greg Knapp as our new Offensive Coordinator! Um… wow, did you just literally sh;t a brick, big Reg?”

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Yeah but do you blame Knapp that McFadden has more drops than receptions?
    ———————
    Is that a fact, or just Bs?
    =========================================

    Honestly in the last four games or so, I will bet it is close.

  • LA to TheBay

    Ah, and fact checking myself, many of those years were in a ZBS scheme or hybrid, but DMC was not the leading rusher.

  • mcfadden20.

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    I’d just like to see Palmer play with run support. Passing 25-35 times per game with play action being more of a threat.

    Took a good thing from past years and wrecked it. The Raiders were able to run the ball well 07, 08, 09, 10, 11. It was about the only thing we could do well.

    Our O Line was one of the best in the league.

    So naturally, we scrapped all that in favor of…. 3-6? Greg Knapp? Zone blocking?

    Zone blocking is for teams without a DMC. For plug and play guys. Arian Foster was a plug and play guy that has become a star, like a lot of other guys that shined in that system.

    It’s not a bad system.

    But when you have road graders and a one cut, one read powerful, lightning fast RB… why change?

    Dumb.

    Reg was probably second guessing himself as soon as DA came to him and said “Good news, Reggie, I managed to hire Greg Knapp as our new Offensive Coordinator! Um… wow, did you just literally sh;t a brick, big Reg?”

    —–

    but you have to consider the players ability to stay healthy before you decide to put that whole scheme around that player, no reason not to expect us to find our Arian Foster for this scheme, A Morris of Washington went UD too i think, so in the long run is better , we might just need to find a better O.co

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Looks like this place DID get cleaned up. And they left my post comparing Jamista Clown to guys like Koresh. See there IS a God. He just hates judgmental, thieving, lying, hateful, ignorant morons. In other words the conservatives.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Peymour make s a statement like its fact and then says “I bet it’s close” in the last 4 games only though…. haha

  • mcfadden20.

    Brendan Albert is the only big time ZBS play that will be available in FA, but he will ask for a lot of money , looks like we will go Draft route

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Jamista I was almost hoping that Rob-me was going to win just so you could FINALLY claim to get ONE THING, that’s right ONE THING RIGHT. But no, not meant to be. Still batting .000 on everything in your pathetic existence.

    But there is a lesson for the rest of us: whatever Jamista Clown says or advocates, DO THE OPPOSITE!!! If Jamista wants the Browns, BET THE FARM on whoever they are playing! What you will find is doors open, a rainbow emerges, and life couldn’t be better. It’s worked for me for years!!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Brendan Albert is the only big time ZBS play that will be available in FA, but he will ask for a lot of money , looks like we will go Draft route
    ============================================

    Again, one of the major aspects of the zone systems is you don’t need a lot of money or high draft choices tied up in either Olinmen or RB’s.

  • r8eray

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    I bet Jon Gruden would love to buy a stake in the team .. the Raiders.. He will choose his new GM.. or become the President/ GM himself.. and work with MARK.

    He will be the new AL and get us back on track. Bring back romo and GANNON as coaches.. or in some way.

    ======

    And then…you woke up?

  • mcfadden20.

    The other guy we might try out is Winston Justice RT

  • mcfadden20.

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Brendan Albert is the only big time ZBS play that will be available in FA, but he will ask for a lot of money , looks like we will go Draft route
    ============================================

    Again, one of the major aspects of the zone systems is you don’t need a lot of money or high draft choices tied up in either Olinmen or RB’s.

    This is why i like the scheme in the long run with better O.co and assistant coaches, we should be able to find C, RG, RT, RB in the Draft

  • LA to TheBay

    I like the enthusiasm, but the idea of starting a bunch of late round rookies at that many positions seems unrealistic.

    I expect us to be major players in day 2+ free agency in the offseason.

    Fun day in here. Greek and Roman entymology, history, racism, politics, and we even managed to squeeze in some Raider football.

    I’m out, Nation. Be good.

  • mcfadden20.

    One other site list these guys as UFAs

    __________________________________

    LDE Michael Bennett TB
    DT Alan Branch Seattle
    DE Chris Clemons Seattle
    NT Shaun COdy Houston
    DT Isreal idonije Chicao
    RE Ricky jean Francouis SF
    DT Henry Melton Chicago
    NT Isaac Sapoaga SF
    DT/NT Randy Starks Miami
    DE Osi Uminioyara NYG
    DT Kyle Williams Buffalo
    DT Kevin Williams Minny

    Not sure how accurate it is but seems like a good list, not many game changers though

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    mcfadden20. Says: we will def upgrade all those positions on the Oline and will find a good rb for ZBS, just saying that it won’t require a lot of money for those positions and can be found in late draft picks, just the WR position will have to be taken care of in FA

    I know. What I’m saying is it will require money, ZBS or not. Was it Cable that said ‘Power, Zone, doesn’t matter. We’re looking for football players’. Willie Smith didn’t require a lot of money if you get my drift. Briesel did, so you gotta be smart, too.

  • depcharger

    dennis allen is in over his head with this coaching thing. he and knapp should get fired. let saunders run the offense.

  • dcraiderfan

    Hey Mark you should have kept Hue Jackson!!!! Now look at this team they gave up on Allen and Spuds!! What a loser you have in the front office!!