Branch practiced, but status up in the air
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, November 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Whether Mike Mitchell makes his first start at strong safety won’t be determined until game day as Tyvon Branch emerged from the locker room after warm-ups and drills and was a limited participant in practice Friday.
Branch, who has started 57 consecutive games, made it to the field after the media window had closed, and coach Dennis Allen was non-specific about how much he was able to do.
Asked if Branch’s participation was a big step forward, Allen said, “It’s a better step forward. It’s better than he didn’t practice.’’
Allen said Branch would be a game-time decision, and Branch, moving deliberately in the Raiders locker room, said, “I’m not sure yet, man. It’s a day-to-day thing right now.’’
Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey did not practice with a hamstring strain and would also be a game-time decision, Allen said.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson (high ankle sprains) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring) were all ruled out of the Seattle game.
Mitchell, who has opened seven games in nickel packages but hasn’t started in the base defense, is pulling for Branch but at the same time wants to show what he can do as a starter.
It’s a big challenge in that the New Orleans offense features tight Jimmy Graham, a 6-foot-7 former basketball player out of Miami who has 45 receptions for 533 yards and seven touchdowns and presents a nightmare matchup because he’s too big for defensive backs and too fast for linebackers.
“I haven’t seen anyone get very physical with him yet, as far as DBs,’’ Mitchell said. “Most guys are too small, and they shy away from him. She just bodies them. I’m curious to see how he’s going to handle more of a physical, skill-position guy checking him at the line.’’
Taken in the second round of the 2009 draft, Mitchell remains eager to validate the decision by Al Davis to select him, a choice that astonished some draft analysts who considered him a late-round pick or potential undrafted free agent.
Mitchell has battled injuries at times, played in different defensive packages and on special teams, and looks forward to his first crack at being a full-time player. The presence of Branch, drafted the previous year and a starter for the last 57 games, has kept Mitchell in a supporting role.
“I’m just so ready to be done with this, to show what I can do,’’ Mitchell said. “I’m tired — I feel like I’ve been held back, held back, held back. So if I get the opportunity I just want to go play good football and show the abilities God has blessed me with.’’
Mitchell plays with emotion and reckless abandon. He’s known as a “friendly fire’’ threat among teammates, and Allen is hoping to see Mitchell dial it back just a bit when necessary.
“He’s a very passionate player, he works extremely hard, he loves the game,’’ Allen said. “Sometimes you’ve just got to slow his heartbeat down a little bit and get him to calm down. It’s important to him, and that’s what I like about him.’’
– Allen said Derek Hagan would be the starter if Heyward-Bey can’t play, but that Juron Criner and Rod Streater would also see action along with starter Denarius Moore.
– Defensive line coach Terrell Williams is at the funeral of his son, Tyson, in Florida and is expected to return to the team Monday, Allen said.
Tyson Williams died at age 4 on Nov. 9 at Oakland Children’s Hospital from what the team called a “sudden and unexpected illness.’’
It was a situation for which there was no manual or guide for a rookie head coach.
“You try to keep everybody informed of what’s going on and be there for them in case they need something,’’ Allen said. “You can’t help but have emotions about that. It was a tough situation.’’
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November 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Proof that total numbers of tackles is a bit overrated. The Raiders have more tackles this season than the Bears do. Wheeler has more tackles than both Urlacher and Lance Briggs.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Proof that total numbers of tackles is a bit overrated. The Raiders have more tackles this season than the Bears do. Wheeler has more tackles than both Urlacher and Lance Briggs.
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A BIT overrated????
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ur OPINION? that’s why stats count. they keep people from making ridiculous claims with no PROOF.
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Tell that to Mistic.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Yep. Picking MM in Round 2 was just utterly terrible.
Along with the reach of DHB of course. Terrible draft.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ur OPINION? that’s why stats count. they keep people from making ridiculous claims with no PROOF.
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Tell that to Mistic.
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this cat is jockin’ me
November 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
4.DKnight007 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Along with the reach of DHB of course. Terrible draft.
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JaMarcus agrees with you.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I want to see Mitchell do well so maybe they will dump Branch. But, part of me wants to see Mitchell completely whiff so we can finally give up on that terrible pick by Al Davis.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ur OPINION? that’s why stats count. they keep people from making ridiculous claims with no PROOF.
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Tell that to Mistic.
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this cat is jockin’ me
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That’s because your an ass clown.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Well. ONE thing that I’m looking forward to with McK as GM is more consistency when it comes to drafting solid and good FOOTBALL players.
Other than that, not looking forward to anything with this team for another 3 years IF that.
If Davis, McK, DA want to rebuild then they might as well start looking to get as many picks as they can by trading DMC now before this years draft instead of next year.
I think the Jets are desperate for play makers and offfenive weapons and I think they would give up a 1st and 3rd for DMC after this season, especially if Tannenbaum and Ryan stay. They will probably go after another QB though.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
big ten points, raiders win
November 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
If Allen doesn’t make a drastic change to the coaching staff in the next TWO weeks, he should be canned. And Reggie needs to step in inside the next two weeks and force drastic coaching change, otherwise he should be canned.
Reggie is safe, wont be canned, and im okay with him for 2-3 years, not enthused, but okay. But it’s reprehensible if he doesnt step in and force change if the HC refuses to make those drastic coaching/schematic changes in the next 1-2 weeks.
If we get blown apart again this week, the change MUST happen immediately.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
iants goin down under
November 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
the best way to find out who sucks? whoever is making the most plays. cut them immediately.
u simply CAN NOT have guys making tackles. it’s surest sign that a player sucks. make tackles? cut him!
by wheeler making all those tackles, he is preventing the rest of the guys from making plays. he MUST GO!
November 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ur OPINION? that’s why stats count. they keep people from making ridiculous claims with no PROOF.
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Tell that to Mistic.
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this cat is jockin’ me
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uh oh. he’s getting ready. can’t……keep……it…….in……much…….longer……..gonna……blow………….
November 16th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I want to see Mitchell do well so maybe they will dump Branch. But, part of me wants to see Mitchell completely whiff so we can finally give up on that terrible pick by Al Davis.
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well, he better not make any tackles. the surest sign of him sucking.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I knew something was fishy when Reggie fired all these scouts and long time guys and brought in that guy Joey Clicksdale to be director of football operations.
Also thought it was fishy the way Raiders didnt even interview another GM.. Mark was just told by Madden and Ron wolf basically what to do.
Why was Wolf so insistant on Reggie, was it maybe so his son Eliot could get a promotion?
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I was shocked watching the baltimore game last week and heard the commentators say the most points given up since the PRE AL ERA
Shocked.. WTF???!!! really?!! Cmon D.A and you are defensive guy? Not even hue/ Breshan did that. wow
AL would have tore da new one
November 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Also, on the other debate…
total tackles is not a good stat, indication. whomever is saying that total tackles is a sign of a good player or a good defense is wrong. LB tackles means the DL is getting out-muscled too much. and SS/FS tackles means the LBs are blowing their assignments or cant shed blocks.
In fact, ILB total tackles is ok. But when you’re leading tacklers are OLBs thats even worse.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Thanks for the good news, Jerry! I’m sure glad that McFadden, Goodson and Seymour were all ruled out for the Seattle game! Whew! Good, cause we’re gonna need those guys for the New Orleans game! I’m sure glad they weren’t ruled out for it.
BTW oh Jerry when is that Seattle game anyway?
November 16th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
DENNIS ALLEN needs to pull a Bobby Petrino.. leave and resign in the middle of the season.. middle of the night.. and take his talents back to Portland State.
Take Greg Napp too
November 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Jerry must be drunk today. He and Steve are having a bender down at Hooters.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Also, on the other debate…
total tackles is not a good stat, indication. whomever is saying that total tackles is a sign of a good player or a good defense is wrong. LB tackles means the DL is getting out-muscled too much. and SS/FS tackles means the LBs are blowing their assignments or cant shed blocks.
In fact, ILB total tackles is ok. But when you’re leading tacklers are OLBs thats even worse.
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umm. kinda. but this is the first time i’ve ever heard guys saying the guy making all the tackles sucks BECAUSE he’s making so many tackles. this laughable.
it’s simple. look at the tackle totals of all-pros. making tackles is a linebacker’s JOB!
for crying out loud, this blog is full of retards.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The beat writers are lap dogs for DA and Reggie right now.. its because Reggie gives them access to be free and walk around the field, something Al never let happen.
Al knew they were annoying as fuggg
November 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
whomever is saying that total tackles is a sign of a good player or a good defense is wrong.
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LOL
November 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Btw, i dont mean that Wheeler isnt a good player. I mean if OLBs are making 100+ tackles, it’s a sign that the DL and ILBs are being out-played. If the SS is making close to 100 tackles in the season, it means the whole front 7 is a mess.
Ideally, the ILBs and DL are making the bulk of tackles every game, but the actual total number of tackles should be low, not high, it means the defense is a good unit.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Everyone is cracking me up today, good job gentleman!
November 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
and SS/FS tackles means the LBs are blowing their assignments or cant shed blocks.
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And when the SS/FS combo isn’t very good, you end up with historic failures.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
but the actual total number of tackles should be low, not high
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Exactly.
Good units get off the field on 3rd downs so they won’t have those high numbers.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Dr_robert, sorry i dont mean you’re wrong. You’ve got a good football brain. You’re right in that wheeler is making plays. The issue i meant more is that total tackles itself is a bad not good thing. Speaks more about the defense as a unit.
A good defense isn’t on the field a lot. They stop the 3rd down conversions more often. So the total tackles would be lower for a good defense.
The ILBs and DL should be making the higher ratio of tackles in a game. Say 5 to 8 tackles tops being the highest tackle count for the game for your team, and by an ILB. With say 3 to 4 by a DT. Say 2 to 3 by OLBs and Safeties. In terms of run plays anyway.
Tackles accrued from pass plays is a different matter.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
The origin of the tits nickname came from me noticing DAs tits and then calling him tits..
November 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Marks Hair Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
The origin of the tits nickname came from me noticing DAs tits and then calling him tits..
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Aren’t tits on a dude normally referred to moobs? Or are you saying he’s a she?
November 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
but the actual total number of tackles should be low, not high
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Exactly.
Good units get off the field on 3rd downs so they won’t have those high numbers.
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Yeah that’s what I was trying to say. But it’s also pertinent to compare ILB vs OLB total tackles. If the OLB is forced to make 10+ tackles a game it means the ILBs are liabilities.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Thanks Mark.
Great, now our HC has a pair of tits.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Honestly Carson Palmer can coach this Offense on the fly.. he doesnt even need knapp.
My first call would be to Steve Wiz SR though to get that power run game back going.. Saunders would be my main man on what to look out for.
DA/KNAPP dont even need to be here anymore, its not like DA is having any impact on the defense
November 16th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DA is a newb with moobs.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I thought the nickname tits came from the old saying “he’s useless as tits on a boar” lmao
November 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Honestly Carson Palmer can coach this Offense on the fly.. he doesnt even need knapp.
My first call would be to Steve Wiz SR though to get that power run game back going.. Saunders would be my main man on what to look out for.
DA/KNAPP dont even need to be here anymore, its not like DA is having any impact on the defense
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Agree.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ur OPINION? that’s why stats count. they keep people from making ridiculous claims with no PROOF.
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Tell that to Mistic.
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this cat is jockin’ me
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That’s because your an ass clown.
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you have exposed yourself as someone that is only interested in inciting discord on this board.
you started this day and many others by race baiting as soon as i showed up
Your counterparts and cohorts refuse to call you on it, yet if i defend myself they will all say that im being racist
lol
again feel free not to adress me, jockin’ like that is not very masculine
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Repost
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Who the fck is TITS? lol
Little help.
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MR78, I believe Tits is Dennis Allen. Apparently, one of our esteemed bloggers saw that DA had man-tits one day on the sideline hence the name.
Congrats again by the way.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Local beat writers also like the new Regime because they put out sandwiches and waters during practice and during the draft.
THey love their subs
November 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Who cares who the coaches are????
Can Willie effin Smith effin block somebody???
Can the damn safeties not let WRs get behind them?
Can we cover the middle of the field for crying out loud?????
Can the QB NOT throw late 4th qtr game ending INTS????
November 16th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Well at this point i might believe it if someone told me tits had a vàgina…
November 16th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
39.. bingo
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Who cares who the coaches are????
Can Willie effin Smith effin block somebody???
Can the damn safeties not let WRs get behind them?
Can we cover the middle of the field for crying out loud?????
Can the QB NOT throw late 4th qtr game ending INTS????
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Man, these are some good questions.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I appreciate it Scourge. I already told my brother to hang up a tire in the yard so he can practice throwing some checkdowns and we’ll go from there. lol
Thanks again!
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DA is still a rookie HC…I still have high hopes for shim.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Local beat writers also like the new Regime because they put out sandwiches and waters during practice and during the draft.
THey love their subs
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all politics unfortunately. dont bite the hand that feeds you. shills are everywhere. they refuse to ask the really tough questions or keep prodding the coaches with a particular pointed question/incident to force a truer reaction/comment out of them. like you see other beat writers do during other team press conferences and interviews.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
DA is rookie HC with a gm.. I dont want to hear that execuse. He is trending towards 5 wins this year.. maybe 5 next year too.
Last year was a rookie hc with no GM
November 16th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ur OPINION? that’s why stats count. they keep people from making ridiculous claims with no PROOF.
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Tell that to Mistic.
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this cat is jockin’ me
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That’s because your an ass clown.
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you have exposed yourself as someone that is only interested in inciting discord on this board.
you started this day and many others by race baiting as soon as i showed up
Your counterparts and cohorts refuse to call you on it, yet if i defend myself they will all say that im being racist
lol
again feel free not to adress me, jockin’ like that is not very masculine
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Mistic, I haven’t race baited you. I am only trying to debate you on your pseudo scientific theories.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: November 16th, 2012 at 2:07 pmDA is rookie HC with a gm.. I dont want to hear that execuse. He is trending towards 5 wins this year.. maybe 5 next year too.Last year was a rookie hc with no GM
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Guess you didnt catch the joke. I called him “shim” because people are calling him tits for shis man boobs.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Boss01 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DA is still a rookie HC…I still have high hopes for shim.
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Lol.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
what up gents, I really hope MM gets his shot at starting I would like to see him in a full time role for once. What really intrest me would be his ability to stay on assignment and not try to do too much which seems to be one of the bigger problems on the D and has been for many years, I cant count the number of times I’ve heard “if guys do their job and not worry about the next mans job we will be fine” so tired of hearing that crap from these guys.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
my bad bawse
November 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
TJ needs to be starting and Reece needs to be used in the correct way..
Ausberry needs to be targeted cuz eerytime i see him with the ball he is making isssh happen. He cant be covered.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Ausberry needs to be targeted
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Isn’t that on the QB?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
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Isn’t that on the QB?
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Not if is not on the field. As soon as he gets his 1 catch he comes off the field and they go in a different set.
I blame NAP
November 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Mistic says:
there is no proof that humans evolved from apes , and certainly not black people.
evolution as a theory has trouble because the links between these different species is never found, then you have the fact that some of these types lived at the same time.
Sorry black people were never monkeys.
Black people were created by a force unseen, every other man was made from that creation
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Mistic, do you also believe in the “Melanin Theory”?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
So do you think he should be starting over Myers?
Or should we be running the NE 2 TE system?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
FIREREGGIENOW!
November 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Well since we have zero run game.. i’d go with a two TE set the majority of the game
November 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Yeah, I’ve been an advocate for the 2 TE sets for a while now.
I like the 3 WR sets too, and Myers is super solid.
Ausberry is on the field more than it seems. Palmer has the ball in his hands. He could easily feature a fellow Trojan.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
what up gents, I really hope MM gets his shot at starting I would like to see him in a full time role for once. What really intrest me would be his ability to stay on assignment and not try to do too much which seems to be one of the bigger problems on the D and has been for many years,
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This is exactly right (other than the point of seeing what Mitchell can do out there.) We’ve seen what Mitchell can do out there, and it isn’t much. And Mitchell seems to be the poster child for being in his assignment, then seeing 10 opponents coming at him, trying to take them ALL ON while his guy just saunters down the boundary past him while the ball gets completed over him for six. How many times has that happened? I think I remember Rivers and Norphus laughing themselves silly at the prospect of Mitchell coming in the game. And then within seconds, just like I described, there is Mitchell taking on the FB who is already being covered by the Will while Gates or VJ just streaks down the field completely uncovered. It boggles the mind really.
I think what has become painfully apparent for the new staff and regime is some of our guys just aren’t very smart. Al always went HWS and in the brand new NFL you see how smart teams are. That is going to take some fixing.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Mistic says:
there is no proof that humans evolved from apes , and certainly not black people.
evolution as a theory has trouble because the links between these different species is never found, then you have the fact that some of these types lived at the same time.
Sorry black people were never monkeys.
Black people were created by a force unseen, every other man was made from that creation
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Mistic, do you also believe in the “Melanin Theory”?
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melanin is not a theory
I dont want to discuss race
your obsessed with race, and this is race baiting
waiting for you fellow posters that complain about me being “racist’ to call you out and disprove my take on the blog in general…im sure they wont
Football?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Who cares who the coaches are????
Can Willie effin Smith effin block somebody???
Can the damn safeties not let WRs get behind them?
Can we cover the middle of the field for crying out loud?????
Can the QB NOT throw late 4th qtr game ending INTS????
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What the hell do you mean who cares who the coaches are? they are the reason we are in this mess, just think were you asking those questions last year? No, the questions last year were, can we stop somebody?, can we score in the second half, and can we cut down the penalties. With the new staff we have a new set of questions as well as some of the old ones from last year. Dont under estimate coaching, its clearly a problem here.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
melanin is not a theory
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So you do believe in the Melanin Theory?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
just think were you asking those questions last year?
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Sure was.
Was asking if Satele or Carlsile could block instead of ole Willie.
Catch the Ws getting smacked around by the Lake Show?
Some things never change, lol.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
And I agree that coaching is a problem as well.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I have to agree with Mistic. I think we have officially seen the next generation of young Q’s who are just fast, athetic, smart, unbelievably accurate, tough, winners. Their names are Johnny “Football” Manziel and Markus Mariota.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Mistic, I’m only attacking your ignorance, not your race.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
did we just acquire someone cause mike mitchell was just quoted the following about graham:
I’m curious to see how he’s going to handle more of a physical, skill-position guy checking him at the line.’’
do we have anyone new? cause skill in the secondary is something i havent seen in awhile
November 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Lol, Nycraider
November 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Local beat writers also like the new Regime because they put out sandwiches and waters during practice and during the draft.
THey love their subs
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all politics unfortunately. dont bite the hand that feeds you. shills are everywhere. they refuse to ask the really tough questions or keep prodding the coaches with a particular pointed question/incident to force a truer reaction/comment out of them. like you see other beat writers do during other team press conferences and interviews.
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i have pointed out this very phenomenon on at least 3 occasions this year.
They not only shy away from certain questions, but also turn a blind eye to glaring issues. all the while selling us on unfounded hype that has not come close to materializing.
This includes exaggerated claims of player performance and value, extolling the virtues of worthless stats, and propping up players and coaches.
The tribune has a vested interested and a financially co dependent relationship with the team.
Not surprised that i am not the only one who sees through the fraud
I have dubbed cork and jerry mac agents of deception for this very reason.
local beat writers……EXPOSED!!!!!
November 16th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Mistic, I’m only attacking your ignorance, not your race.
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
melanin is not a theory
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So you do believe in the Melanin Theory?
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melanin is not a theory
You are doggedly pursuing a discussion on race….again
this is race baiting
and as expected no one will call you a racist for it
football?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I have to agree with Mistic. I think we have officially seen the next generation of young Q’s who are just fast, athetic, smart, unbelievably accurate, tough, winners. Their names are Johnny “Football” Manziel and Markus Mariota.
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mariaptta > thomas
Johhny football is one of my fave college qbs, i dont think he an nfl qb, more of an athlete playing qb.
he doesnt really have the size, or the nfl arm in my opinion.
sort of a cross between doug flutie and woody danztler.
Not quite as shifty as dantzler, not nearly the passer flute was
he may be good on sunday if switches postion, maybe wr or kick returner
November 16th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Mitchell is good at at least one thing, which is shadowing tight ends. He can erase some of the better ones. Let him do it. Put Huffy back at FS cause he’s a little better than Gio and go sign Stan Routt for league minimum.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Local beat writers also like the new Regime because they put out sandwiches and waters during practice and during the draft.
THey love their subs
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all politics unfortunately. dont bite the hand that feeds you. shills are everywhere. they refuse to ask the really tough questions or keep prodding the coaches with a particular pointed question/incident to force a truer reaction/comment out of them. like you see other beat writers do during other team press conferences and interviews.
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i have pointed out this very phenomenon on at least 3 occasions this year.
They not only shy away from certain questions, but also turn a blind eye to glaring issues. all the while selling us on unfounded hype that has not come close to materializing.
This includes exaggerated claims of player performance and value, extolling the virtues of worthless stats, and propping up players and coaches.
The tribune has a vested interested and a financially co dependent relationship with the team.
Not surprised that i am not the only one who sees through the fraud
I have dubbed cork and jerry mac agents of deception for this very reason.
local beat writers……EXPOSED!!!!!
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You forgot to mention the Tribune’s conspiracy to condone racism on this blog.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
go sign Stan Routt for league minimum.
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Pass
November 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
melanin is not a theory
You are doggedly pursuing a discussion on race….again
this is race baiting
and as expected no one will call you a racist for it
football?
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That’s because everyone on this blog knows that you are a Black Supremacist. Quit being a hypocrite and just admit it.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Mitchell is good at at least one thing, which is shadowing tight ends. He can erase some of the better ones. Let him do it. Put Huffy back at FS cause he’s a little better than Gio and go sign Stan Routt for league minimum.
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yeah and bring back cj37 so it can be a complete disaster. honestly, if mitchell could erase anyone i’d think he would have played more.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Local beat writers also like the new Regime because they put out sandwiches and waters during practice and during the draft.
THey love their subs
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all politics unfortunately. dont bite the hand that feeds you. shills are everywhere. they refuse to ask the really tough questions or keep prodding the coaches with a particular pointed question/incident to force a truer reaction/comment out of them. like you see other beat writers do during other team press conferences and interviews.
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i have pointed out this very phenomenon on at least 3 occasions this year.
They not only shy away from certain questions, but also turn a blind eye to glaring issues. all the while selling us on unfounded hype that has not come close to materializing.
This includes exaggerated claims of player performance and value, extolling the virtues of worthless stats, and propping up players and coaches.
The tribune has a vested interested and a financially co dependent relationship with the team.
Not surprised that i am not the only one who sees through the fraud
I have dubbed cork and jerry mac agents of deception for this very reason.
local beat writers……EXPOSED!!!!!
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It’s another reason why to sometimes we should trust one’s own analysis and criticisms over what the beats contradict. Over certain issues anyway. Often it’s better to read the beats of the opposing team we’re playing that week. They’re not obligated and tied-to-the-hip.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Can’t wait to see this Top 5 defense Huffie spoke of. 23rd in yards and dead stinking last in points allowed.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Melanin theory
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Melanin theory is a pseudoscientific, racist theory[1], founded in the distortion of the known physical properties of melanin, a natural polymer and organic semiconductor.[2] In humans, melanin is the primary determinant of skin color. People whose ancestors lived for long periods in the regions of the globe near the equator generally have larger quantities of eumelanin in their skins. Melanin theorists assert that the possession of greater quantities of melanin causes an inherent superiority of black people. Conversely, its lack demonstrates the alleged inhumanity and inferiority of white people. Some black supremacists justify supremacist assertions by assigning dubious properties to melanin based on pseudoscience and distortions of scientific fact or speculation. Scientists consider melanin theory pseudoscience; it has no credibility in mainstream medicine or science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin_theory
November 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Proof that total numbers of tackles is a bit overrated. The Raiders have more tackles this season than the Bears do. Wheeler has more tackles than both Urlacher and Lance Briggs.
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I failed to see your point. Individual stats are just that. Wheeler is playing the SAM as well as anyone I’ve watched this season.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
melanin is not a theory
You are doggedly pursuing a discussion on race….again
this is race baiting
and as expected no one will call you a racist for it
football?
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That’s because everyone on this blog knows that you are a Black Supremacist. Quit being a hypocrite and just admit it.
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No, over 90 percent of this blog are white guys, so they see no need to condemn your action
this is blatant race baiting, as per usual for racist to engage in
there is no such thing as “black supremacy’
Football?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
What is the NFL record for most points allowed in a three game stretch?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
On the other hand, as far as team stats you’re dead on. The more 3 and outs, the fewer tackles.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
#84…easy! The 2012 Raiders.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
You just know with Brees’ stat-ho’ing ways, they’ll put 40+ on the Raiders, who defensively are in disarray as well. Two in a row now suggests things are regressing, division. The Browns FFS of all teams, even the Jaguars, are playing more competitive football on defense.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I find it interesting that Mistic comes in here with these hate messages then tries to turn it around on people when they call him out. SMH
November 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
melanin is not a theory
i dont subscribe to any thing posted on melanin in wikipedia especially some so called “melanin theory”
Nor do i simply subscribe to so called accepted science and popular theory as most of it is published by people and groups i mistrust and the vehicle has been exposed as being agenda driven for years.
just as it once accepted as ’science” and by “scientist” that black people were 3/5 human
not sure why you guys are so obsessed over race…
oh wait yes i am sure why
football takes?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
* J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Who cares who the coaches are????
Can Willie effin Smith effin block somebody???
Can the damn safeties not let WRs get behind them?
Can we cover the middle of the field for crying out loud?????
Can the QB NOT throw late 4th qtr game ending INTS???
Smith is only here cuz of the zbs
Giordano was rarely out of position last year…but this year appears lost
No
Even an average running game would help
Im usually not one to blame coaching…but this year its been awdul
November 16th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I find it interesting that Mistic comes in here with these hate messages then tries to turn it around on people when they call him out. SMH
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I posted a take on mm34
4 posters have now addressed me specifically talking race. now you make the 5th
So you need to address them.
There is nothing hateful about talking raider strong safety.
There is something extremely hateful about race baiting, talk to your own
November 16th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
*awful
November 16th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Detroit coach Jim Schwartz on Pat Lee: “he’s got starting experience and size. It’s rare that people like that become available”
Translation: GM/HC of the Raiders messed up…again.
Other teams are onto it, they’re all lining up under the Raider tree waiting to see what goodies will fall into their laps.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
he doesnt really have the size, or the nfl arm in my opinion.
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He’s a true freshman so he will get bigger and stronger. I love both of those propsects. Mariota could be a very good Pro player.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
football takes?
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Seems like kind of a good idea to me. Especially on an Oakland Raider blog. Before a game…
November 16th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Watch the teams line up to claim Taiwan after he’s cut. And then Pryor. Then Ausberry. Then Chekwa. Soon, Reggie/DA will have gutted the talent, and we’ll be locked in to a 3 year commitment to the ZBS and Zone defense schemes which doesn’t require talented athletes, but mediocre players who can follow systems.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Lee and Chekwa should have been given time to develop. I cant for the life of me understand what Adams is doing on this football team!!!
November 16th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
At that point, Mark (after Carol passes away) will sell controlling interest to the AIG group, which will move to LA, and the Raider brand will dissipate further. Uniform changes, become more of a faceless soulless corporate entity than the family and iconic thing it was for the last 50 years.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
I believe people claiming Safeties and LBers shouldn’t be your leading tacklers should do some research.They might be surprised and find out they are mistaken.The Ravens leading tackler is Pollard,the Stealers-Ryan Clark,Texans-Joseph-CB and Quin-S-the list goes on.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
JONTRAIN Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Lee and Chekwa should have been given time to develop. I cant for the life of me understand what Adams is doing on this football team!!!
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It’s Reggie playing fantasy football with his previously scouted scrubs. Reggie-ball.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
football takes?
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Seems like kind of a good idea to me. Especially on an Oakland Raider blog. Before a game…
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Funny, didn’t see you complain when Mistic was in here posting all that Neanderthal rapist talk.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Thanks Mark.
Great, now our HC has a pair of tits
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Well he doesn’t have any balls so that’s a fair trade I Guess
November 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I was surprised Lee was cut over Francies.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I wish the field would return to dirt, that way Palmer can draw up plays on it, instead of calling Knapps garbage.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I was surprised Lee was cut over Francies.
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Makes 2 of us.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
I believe people claiming Safeties and LBers shouldn’t be your leading tacklers should do some research.They might be surprised and find out they are mistaken.The Ravens leading tackler is Pollard,the Stealers-Ryan Clark,Texans-Joseph-CB and Quin-S-the list goes on.
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Take away the tackles made from passing plays. It’s more of a pass-driven league so these numbers are on the climb. But the Ravens this year are a bad run D, hence the safety tackles on the climb. Ryan plays up in the box a lot as an extra ‘LB’. Joseph CB from passing plays.
The football fundamental is true. Good defenses arent on the field to accrue more tackles. And good run D’s especially, the ILB(s) and DL get the most ratio of tackles. And when OLBs get more tackles, especially tackles from rushes, than ILBs, it means the ILBs are liabilities.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I wish the field would return to dirt, that way Palmer can draw up plays on it, instead of calling Knapps garbage.
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Lol.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Thanks Mark.
Great, now our HC has a pair of tits
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Well he doesn’t have any balls so that’s a fair trade I Guess
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Haha, post of the day
November 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Banana,
You KNOW there is ONE “troll” that takes over A LOT of posters handles.
I believe ALL the BS posts are one person.
Mistic, Priest, MR, and PLENTY of others have been taken over by some blog employee.
Pretty obvious mayne
November 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Funny, didn’t see you complain when Mistic was in here posting all that Neanderthal rapist talk.
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I ignored all of it, but this racists back and forth has been going on for weeks now and the second mistic comes here it seems like a virus pack is ready to jump him.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Before Reggie arrived the Raiders were dominating the Broncos on a regular basis.
Thanks to Reggie the Raiders are struggling with the basics of checkers while the Broncos have turned into the chess champions of the world.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Banana,
You KNOW there is ONE “troll” that takes over A LOT of posters handles.
I believe ALL the BS posts are one person.
Mistic, Priest, MR, and PLENTY of others have been taken over by some blog employee.
Pretty obvious mayne
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Are you saying the hate posts all come from a single blog employee? Interesting conspiracy theory. Pretty low if so.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Before Reggie arrived the Raiders were dominating the Broncos on a regular basis.
Thanks to Reggie the Raiders are struggling with the basics of checkers while the Broncos have turned into the chess champions of the world.
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The Broncos picked Peyton Manning.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Picked up Peyton Manning
November 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
GG-you are wrong.Dlinemen don’t make a lot of tackles and don’t lead their teams in tackles.Safeties and LBers always lead teams in tackles.Ngata is 7th or 8th in tackles and he is one of the best DTs in the game.I do agree ILBers should have more tackles than OLBers though.Linemen eat blockers,LBers finish plays= basic football.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Before Reggie arrived the Raiders were dominating the Broncos on a regular basis.
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Maybe you should say ‘before Tebow arrived’.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Funny, didn’t see you complain when Mistic was in here posting all that Neanderthal rapist talk.
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I ignored all of it, but this racists back and forth has been going on for weeks now and the second mistic comes here it seems like a virus pack is ready to jump him.
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Even funnier. So you ignored Mistic’s racist ramblings but saw fit to interject today when folks tried to take him to task on his own comments. Interesting…
November 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Branch may play….. : Awesome… We get to watch him get burned Deep at Half speed..
November 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Well, signing routt was a joke, but Mitchell does play the TE well.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Banana,
All I’m saying is there is one guy who clearly takes over people’s handles and posts all kinda BS.
I was in here the other day and there we 2 people posting under Mistic’s handle.
Kell has been taken over too.
Priest, Young B, and even Lefty.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Before Reggie arrived the Raiders were dominating the Broncos on a regular basis.
Thanks to Reggie the Raiders are struggling with the basics of checkers while the Broncos have turned into the chess champions of the world.
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That saying turned true….better the devil you know. Al, and Hue carrying the torch of Al at the time. There was fire, aggression, faith in the Raider way.
Now we’re under the control of an owner who doesn’t care. A GM who is playing fantasy football and hiring buddies/family on the gravy train. A HC who is packing more estrogen. An OC who historically regresses offenses and rosters. And the worst part, we’re stuck with it for 3 years probably. There might be progress in 2013 and 2014, progress from a 4-12 type season to a 7-9 type season. But we were already on the verge at the time of taking the leap from 8 wins to 10+. Now we have to go backwards 5 wins to make progress of 4 wins.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Banana,
All I’m saying is there is one guy who clearly takes over people’s handles and posts all kinda BS.
I was in here the other day and there we 2 people posting under Mistic’s handle.
Kell has been taken over too.
Priest, Young B, and even Lefty.
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What makes you think it is an employee?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
GG, Dennis Allen played safety for Texas A&M. I’m pretty sure he could kick your ass.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
So should we pray for heavy-heavy rain on Sunday?
Would that give us a better or worse chance of winning?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
So should we pray for heavy-heavy rain on Sunday?
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We should pray that Drew Brees gets hurt getting off the bus.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
There’s not a D-lineman in the league in the top 47 in tackles.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=TACKLES&conference=null&season=2012&seasonType=REG
November 16th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
What happens if we win this week?
Are we back? lol
It’s ideal for us to win this Sunday, only to serve up a nice steaming turd pie, topped with hope the follwing week.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Heavy rain with 50-55 mph winds. lol
November 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
The Raiders should onside kick every time they kick off this Sunday.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
GG, Dennis Allen played safety for Texas A&M. I’m pretty sure he could kick your ass.
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Doubt it. He’d probably want to talk and hug out any disputes with me instead.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
GG,
Just give him a titty twister and make him whistle at the same time.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Heavy rain with 50-55 mph winds. lol
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That would probably hurt the Raiders since they can’t run at all.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Funny, didn’t see you complain when Mistic was in here posting all that Neanderthal rapist talk.
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I ignored all of it, but this racists back and forth has been going on for weeks now and the second mistic comes here it seems like a virus pack is ready to jump him.
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Even funnier. So you ignored Mistic’s racist ramblings but saw fit to interject today when folks tried to take him to task on his own comments. Interesting…
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Not that anyone should take advice from me, in fact they shouldn’t. And I am CERTAINLY not above getting into an internet fracas so I can really understand all of you going at it, but that whole racist tirade seemed played out a week ago. Now admittedly, I stayed out of it and really didn’t read it. But I think you all should give it a rest. Believe it or not, I don’t think Mistic is racist. I do think he has some unbelievably poor bias against Palmer. And for Jason Campbell. But hey, he does deserve the gallows for it. In fact I think that is the number one problem amongst the fans on this site: they fall in love or hate with certain players and coaches. jmho.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Desmond Howard…Seattle; Jerry McDonald you must really be upset that Hostess ding songs, fruit pies, Ho hos, and twinkies are no longer going to exist.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
There’s not a D-lineman in the league in the top 47 in tackles.
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That’s because it is not the defensive linemans job to make tackles. It is the LB’s jobs. I have been explaining that in here for years and people STILL want to argue about it (Jamista Clown looking your way here).
November 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
A good run D…
The DTs eat the blockers, the ILBs make the tackles. But there should be enough TFLs and short 1-2 yard gains due to DTs shedding their blockers and making a play too.
Tackle ratio from rushing plays should see ILBs making the bulk of the tackles, and THEN the DTs. As in, say 8 tackles by the ILB in a game, a DT with 3-5, OLB with 3-5, safeties with 2-3. That’s rushing play tackles ONLY.
Passing plays is an entirely different thing. You’ll see more Safeties, CBs, and OLBs making tackles, so those numbers will further rise in the “overall total tackles”, seeing DTs and DEs numbers at the bottom of the tallies.
An all-world defense tho, a higher number of those 3rd down plays would end up as batted balls, or no stats (errant passes, incompletions). There will be a number of 3rd down passes caught (a tackle made) that didn’t move the chain.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
What makes you think it is an employee?
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Either that or some super hacker.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Either that or some super hacker.
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I don’t think it’s very hard to hack this site. In fact with a rubber band and an auto dialer from the 1980’s…
November 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Who is going to play S with Mitchell this weekend?
November 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
#136: well said
November 16th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
What makes you think it is an employee?
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Either that or some super hacker.
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Lol, J. You give whomever it is too much credit. This site is not exactly tight on security.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
A bad run D…
The DTs cant shed their blocks, the ILBs blow their assignments, or cant shed their blocks, a lot of rushes going for 4-8 yards, which means OLBs/CBs/S’s are having to mop up.
Statistically, from rushing plays only, and as the opposition would be kicking your butt and thus possessing more ball, you’d see something like…
OLBs 5-10 tackles, SS 5-8 tackles, CBs, 3-4 tackles, ILBs 3-5 tackles, DL 0-3 tackles.
Then factor in the passing plays, all the converted third downs, or slow gradual chain-moving, you’d see a spike of tackles by the OLBs/DBs.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Who is going to play S with Mitchell this weekend?
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Giordano. Man that guy is one tough hombre.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
GG,
Just give him a titty twister and make him whistle at the same time.
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lol
November 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Good safeties also plug holes in the running game.That is why they usually lead their teams or near the top of their teams in tackles.This can be denied but it is football 101.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I would love to see DHB return some kicks. Maybe someone can catch the ball and hand it off to him so he could run it back.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Anyway, we’re all saying the same thing about the tackles discussion.
Just watch against the Saints, if we’re doing poorly, the ‘between the tackles’ running lanes will be there, the ILBs not shedding or blowing assignment or making bad reads, and the OLBs having to come across to mop up, and you’ll see often the Safeties making a lot of assisted tackles with those hustling OLBs.
If we’re doing well, you’ll see the middle clogged up, the DL moving the pile, with LBs breaking into the back of the field, or getting outside forcing the runners back in-field where the ILBs/DL make the stop. All those -3 to +3 type rushes.
They say, when it comes to rushing, anything up to 3 yards on a gain is due to the OL, and anything after is due to the RB. So all those rushing plays that go from 3-5 and 3-8 yards, look at the ILBs getting picked up by the guards and unable to shed, or out of position. All those rushing plays like 10-15 or 20-40 yards, look at the OLBs being unable to mop up and the safeties being exposed one on one and standing little chance.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I never posted about race until i was attacked by racism here. called monkeys and baboons and the like. This started with post about jamrcuss and so on.
I joined the blog to talk raider football, until i saw fit to defend myself.
That is all.
i think it would way better to be free of that filth and discuss football
November 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Good safeties also plug holes in the running game.That is why they usually lead their teams or near the top of their teams in tackles.This can be denied but it is football 101.
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True especially if playing an extra man in the box on run support. SS’s can accrue tackles due to playing as an extra LB. Essentially tho, that particular tackle stat made by a SS up in the box can be attributed as a tackle made from a “LB” position.
Anyway, we’re all in agreement really.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
YO YO YO BEEEECH DIGGITY BRINGING THE COMEDY HEAT
Whut up, Nerds
Just wrapped up teaching my brand new comedy class. Doing it poolside at the Ritz, the MiLFs seem to love it and my material is straight up KILLIN’
Last joke I told this babe spat her Mai Tai out thru her nose and her boobs popped out of her bikini. Made that sound like a spring in a mattress
Might do a little stand up tonight in Jer Ne, they usually let me chill near the TV in the back and they slip me a few free Pina Coladas
No doubt, gotta get a booking agent soon and get my merch line pumpin’ on tumblr
SHOUT OUT TO MY COMEDY BRATHA DICK PRYOR
November 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Good idea beech. You can call it the ” I take it up the ass tour”.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
“Forget contact, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said RB Taiwan Jones sometimes has trouble with handoffs in practice — and coaches are looking for improvement”
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So the story gradually changes. Where’s the rolleyes ascii.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Good idea beech. You can call it the ” I take it up the ass tour”.
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Ha Ha, MELTDOWN
And no, that’s not a joke
holla
November 16th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I think Mitchell was a boom or bust pick and I’m ok with that in Round 2. I think he should play over Giordano who has not played we’ll at all lately. Mitchell has improved his coverage skills considerably but they are legislating his biggest asset away, his hitting (not tackling, hitting).
November 16th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Desmond Bryant is outplaying Seymour as well. And it looks like RoMac is either gonna restructure or re- up for close to minimum or get cut after the season
November 16th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
And where has Reggie out drafted people. He took guys the scouts liked across the league, BJ Raji, AJ Hawk, the OT from Iowa who ain’t that good
November 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Desmond Bryant is outplaying Seymour as well.
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If Desmond Bryant was outplaying Seymour he would playing in front of Seymour. Seymour leads the team in sacks. Seymour has made a couple of MAJOR game saving or winning plays this season. Bryant made his lst start last week with Seymour 3000 miles away and the Raider defense got pasted. Let’s not go crazy here.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Whoa, guess hilarious comedy is going to work out pretty well for the ‘ol Beeeeech Lawg
The “Marina Del Rey Hammer” (all 12 inches) just got a sensual hand jiggity from a student in my comedy class
She showed up at the Beeeech Pad – with both of her 44DDD booblies, holla – to practice some new jokes. Next thing I know she’s rubbing lotion on my ‘lil homie
Busted a dope nut right at the punchline (her joke was pretty average, needs to work on her delivery), that’s just the way them big comedy dawgs bark
Probably how Judy Tenuta got her start
November 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Burris and Criner the only good Reggie picks to date. Streater UDFA pick up which was excellent.
The rest of them on Reggie Scholarship for 2-3 years.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
biggest lie out there is that reggie has an eye for talent….
November 16th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I wouldn’t go that far. Lol.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Reggie will have plenty of opportunities to improve this team through the draft and hopefully land some gems next year. He’ll have more draft picks and ample amount of time to scout and potentially scoop up a Streater type as a UDFA. BIG OFFSEASON.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raiders signed CB Cory Nelm to the PS.
Ex-Niner. That’s Reggie being clueless and Tarver making a suggested acquisition.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
biggest lie out there is that reggie has an eye for talent….
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Miles Burris, Rod Streator and Juron Criner don’t seem so bad….
November 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Reggie too busy swiveling around on his leather chair and wondering what other Raider artifact/tradition to replace for the sake of replacing.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I can see KrappyRat being pretty good at stand up comedy
The Old Troll could just get wasted on Malibu, stumble on stage, let his pants naturally fall down, then start rambling like an old drunk while the audience roars with laughter
Sort of like what happens every time he shows up for work at Kane & Assoc at 2 in the afternoon
November 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I meant Reggies gut, not Reggie.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Dumb Beech, what do you want, a slap on the fanny?
Go away.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
biggest lie out there is that reggie has an eye for talent….
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So Ron Wolf was lying, too?
November 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
not sure criner and streater deserve the label as good or excellent pickups. they have alot to prove..you could argue louis murphy displayed alot more potential his rookie year(especially with the qb he played with) and look how he ended up. time will tell but they have a long way to go,
November 16th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
could madden and wolf been wrong? maybe maybe not..reggie like the rest of management has alot to prove in 2013..2012 the year of the excuse. 2013 no excuses
November 16th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Look at the litany of TEs Reggie has scouted and signed thru the off-season and season. None of them have supplanted what Al Davis brought in with Myers, Gordon and Ausberry.
Stewart is a slow mediocre ball-carrier, perfect for Knapp’s system is lord pounding away the zone stretch plays. That’s again a Tarver suggested pick-up.
Reggie has brought in mostly scrubs he scouted while at Green Bay, that Allen has cut after evaluating them.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Krappy, don’t get all worked up
Have you ever considered hitting an open mic night?
Since the real estate career has been a total bust, performing in front of an audience might get your confidence back
Worth a shot, old timer
November 16th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
As for Oakland, they come into this contest at 3-6 with not as much to be confident about. Their past two games have resulted in losses, having allowed a whopping total of 97 points in the two contests. The surprisingly excellent linebacker Philip Wheeler had a day to forget last week. He made our ‘Had a Bad Day’ Team, but still has managed a solid +8.2 grade on the year, good for second on the defense behind Richard Seymour.
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That is the current write up from PFF. More and more news agencies are using PFF because their breakdowns are very good. So please note once again, they have Seymour as the highest rated defender on our team. So would all of you just please STFU.
November 16th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Hey J Hill my Dubs arent expected to win a title any time soon however the Fake show are expected to win now, and there off to a helluva start lol, but on the contrary to what many think I feel D’Antoni was a good hire, he will get Nash involved the way he should be and he will bring “Show Time” back. The knock has been he cant coach D, but hte good thing for him is he wont have to teach Kobe, Artest, ans Howard how to play D as they are natural defenders, but the problem I believe will do them in will be their old legs runnin an gunnin all season plus their weak bench and Nash having to guard top guards in the playoffs it wont look good against Paul or Westbrook.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Streater 19 rec 207yds 2 TD’s through 9 games
DHB in 2010 26 rec 366yds 1 TD in 15 games
Streater will be good in due time. Good pick Gut!
November 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
seymour hasnt lived up to his contarct , but he has never had another playmaker on the line or LB where the opponent had to double them. wimbley had moments but was never in that elite category
November 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
what has criner done? burris was being blasted6 yards back last week…
November 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I think Seymour has been the anchor since he’s been here.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
biggest lie out there is that reggie has an eye for talent….
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So Ron Wolf was lying, too?
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At the moment, I’m buying the “agenda-driven get my son Eliot promoted inside the Packers”
I think the Wolfs are far more loyal/devoted to the Packers than the Raiders. Eliot especially, having spent the majority of his time there, what’s home to him.
What started me second-guessing Reggie was when he fired all the existing scouts, there was no need to get rid of them, and started hiring his twin and buddies to the gravy train.
Seems to me Reggie is very driven by having his own yes men around him, has a limited scope/experience on things, mainly hiring people he directly worked with that will work for him in his GM/Scouting capacity, leaving the coaching/cuts entirely to Allen, who in turn leaves the entire offense to knapp.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
constantly…
November 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I not quite sure what people expected from big mack in terms of the roster, he didnt have a ton of wiggle room, or options. he was left with salary cap hell, a carson crippled draft, and under achieving bloated contracts.
I say big mack hasnt yet shown what he can do with the roster, and it is a bit unfair to judge him based on this season.
I do think big mack made a bad coaching hire, and a mistake in allowing allen pick his own staff.
my question would be how many options did he have for head coach? I do believe that the coaching candidate pool will grow in quality as we move forward with big mack. people that would have been afraid to work for davis sr. may not feel the same about working for davis jr. This depends on how davis jr handles this current failure
November 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
GG-where do you get the idea the Stewart pick-up was a Tarver suggestion?What makes you think Tarver suggested the CB pick-up to the practice squad?
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
what has criner done? burris was being blasted6 yards back last week…
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Criner caught a crucial 2 point conversion and Burris has been one of the best rookie LB’s in the league. But hey, what does the league know?
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I not quite sure what people expected from big mack in terms of the roster, he didnt have a ton of wiggle room, or options. he was left with salary cap hell, a carson crippled draft, and under achieving bloated contracts.
I say big mack hasnt yet shown what he can do with the roster, and it is a bit unfair to judge him based on this season.
I do think big mack made a bad coaching hire, and a mistake in allowing allen pick his own staff.
my question would be how many options did he have for head coach? I do believe that the coaching candidate pool will grow in quality as we move forward with big mack. people that would have been afraid to work for davis sr. may not feel the same about working for davis jr. This depends on how davis jr handles this current failure
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2012 the year of the excuse- 2013 no excuses
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
gg finally someone who can look at this objectively, these guys have bought in to reggie blindly…the proof is in the record…
November 16th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Good Post Mistic
November 16th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
What started me second-guessing Reggie was when he fired all the existing scouts, there was no need to get rid of them, and started hiring his twin and buddies to the gravy train.
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He didn’t fire all of them by any means. He did fire half of them, however.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I give our Raidahs a shot to win this game with the weather expected to be bad. I know its a long shot but if we can pull this one out and SD can beat Den we would only be 2 games out with 6 to play and we play SD and DEN again. Cant help being optimistic sometimes.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
1- 2 pt conversion? are you serious? Look at last week and the week before where was burriss? watch it…the guy gets blown up six yards back… constantly
November 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Pretty cynical, I don’t believe Reggie was standing in the way of the Wolf’s career. Reggie is Ron Wolf’s protege.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Tarver spent time on the Niners and Stanford. Nelm (niners) and Stewart (stanford) shows Reggie is taking suggestions from his staff of players they’re aware about that could be possible signings. Reggie has brought in a LOT of players at various positions over the last 5 or so weeks, allowing the coaches to assess them. Most of them have not been signed up, them still looking. Reggie is struggling in THIS PARTICULAR aspect of finding existing FAs. He falls on the players he knows about from his packers days. Most of them have been likewise discarded by Allen.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
gg finally someone who can look at this objectively, these guys have bought in to reggie blindly…the proof is in the record…
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Uh, kind of hard to judge someone after half a season following a decade long slide. Unless you are seeing something the universe isn’t. Enlighten us..
November 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
nycraider Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I not quite sure what people expected from big mack in terms of the roster, he didnt have a ton of wiggle room, or options. he was left with salary cap hell, a carson crippled draft, and under achieving bloated contracts.
I say big mack hasnt yet shown what he can do with the roster, and it is a bit unfair to judge him based on this season.
I do think big mack made a bad coaching hire, and a mistake in allowing allen pick his own staff.
my question would be how many options did he have for head coach? I do believe that the coaching candidate pool will grow in quality as we move forward with big mack. people that would have been afraid to work for davis sr. may not feel the same about working for davis jr. This depends on how davis jr handles this current failure
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2012 the year of the excuse- 2013 no excuses
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big macks roster predicament isnt an excuse it is widley known.
I did not give an excuse for the coaching hire either, i called it a bad decision.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I not quite sure what people expected from big mack in terms of the roster, he didnt have a ton of wiggle room, or options. he was left with salary cap hell, a carson crippled draft, and under achieving bloated contracts.
I say big mack hasnt yet shown what he can do with the roster, and it is a bit unfair to judge him based on this season.
I do think big mack made a bad coaching hire, and a mistake in allowing allen pick his own staff.
my question would be how many options did he have for head coach? I do believe that the coaching candidate pool will grow in quality as we move forward with big mack. people that would have been afraid to work for davis sr. may not feel the same about working for davis jr. This depends on how davis jr handles this current failure
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The rest of the league is waiting to see if Mark pulls out his old man’s quick hook and cans everyone. If he does, we can forget about EVER bringing in anyone qualified.
Whether you like Reggie or not, he’s in for the long haul. As it should be.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
gg finally someone who can look at this objectively, these guys have bought in to reggie blindly…the proof is in the record…
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I just ask this of everyone….the truth is objective and IN FLUX. it’s important to stay flexible when assessing, analyzing and reading between the lines. things change. dynamics spin off into other dynamics.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
GG-what do you expect,it is the middle of the season.There aren’t a lot of ‘gems’ available on the streets this time of year.What it shows is we don’t have a lot of talent and he is looking anywhere he can to try and find players that might be better than the scrubs we already have.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
gg finally someone who can look at this objectively, these guys have bought in to reggie blindly…the proof is in the record…
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I just ask this of everyone….the truth is objective and IN FLUX. it’s important to stay flexible when assessing, analyzing and reading between the lines. things change. dynamics spin off into other dynamics.
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Excellent point, Reggie deserves a draft, we are now under the cap so that issue is gone, his pick of DA cannot be judged until after 2013 IMO. I do think he must get rid of knapp in the off season and if he doesnt that will be a real bad sign. Reggie will have his opportunity. I give him and his staff (except for knapp) 2012 as a year of transition. however, 2013 no excuses
November 16th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
dont just follow and praise the ground that reggie walks on because he isnt al….the guy has not shown anything to justify his reputation….he has shown a lot to contradict it though…excuses are only good for losing….this team deserves more than that and so do us the fans…
November 16th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Remember, Reggie at the Packers wasn’t THE guy. He was one of others working in the scouting department. Ultimately all decisions were made by Ted Thompson. This is why I say Reggie is playing fantasy football, why it looks apparent. All the players he directly scouted and liked, that say Ted Thompson didn’t like and eventually weren’t taken on full-time by Thompson, Reggie has brought here. That’s his scope of experience to date. He thinks “maybe i was right, i’ll bring them here and see if they stick”.
Remember how many times he said he LOVES, no, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES and gets excited having draft picks. Like those fantasy football general managers.
And it’ll be interesting to find out who actually scouted and recommended players like Burris, Streater, Criner, and who scouted players like Bergstrom, Bilukidi, Crawford, etc.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Looks like we got one Raider beat writer questioning DA now..
VIC Tafaur on twitter saying he doesnt get what the coaches are doing.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Excellent point, Reggie deserves a draft, we are now under the cap so that issue is gone, his pick of DA cannot be judged until after 2013 IMO. I do think he must get rid of knapp in the off season and if he doesnt that will be a real bad sign. Reggie will have his opportunity. I give him and his staff (except for knapp) 2012 as a year of transition. however, 2013 no excuses
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Great post I totally agree, Reggie and Allen arent going anywhere it just doesnt make sense to fire them after 1 season but I’m expecting a 3 to 4 win jump next season with a good FA and draft class. And of course a new OC.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
If Knapp returns as a O.C, I will take a year off from watching football.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Alias,since you are so anti excuses,why have the Raiders sucked so bad the last 25 years-minus 3-4 years in the early 2000s?
November 16th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The noise is getting louder on this COACH.. pretty soon Mark is gonna make a move. watch.
He can overule Reggies candy azzz anytime he wants. Bring back Gruden as GM / President.. go after a legit HC
November 16th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
If Knapp returns as a O.C, I will take a year off from watching football.
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Enjoy fishing,going to the movies,or whatever else you might do.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The noise is getting louder on this COACH.. pretty soon Mark is gonna make a move. watch.
He can overule Reggies candy azzz anytime he wants. Bring back Gruden as GM / President.. go after a legit HC
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If Mark fires Reggie after one season, you can look forward to us being a league-wide joke for another decade, at least.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
these guys have bought in to reggie blindly
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I havent bought in to RM blindly but he is a GM not a coach his job is to get good players in here and he wasnt in a good position to do that this year, Reggie’s test will come THIS offseason and we all will see whats what.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
You think so Lefty? There is no way possible he returns. I offered a 300.00 bet, if anyone is up to it.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
nycraider Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
gg finally someone who can look at this objectively, these guys have bought in to reggie blindly…the proof is in the record…
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I just ask this of everyone….the truth is objective and IN FLUX. it’s important to stay flexible when assessing, analyzing and reading between the lines. things change. dynamics spin off into other dynamics.
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Excellent point, Reggie deserves a draft, we are now under the cap so that issue is gone, his pick of DA cannot be judged until after 2013 IMO. I do think he must get rid of knapp in the off season and if he doesnt that will be a real bad sign. Reggie will have his opportunity. I give him and his staff (except for knapp) 2012 as a year of transition. however, 2013 no excuses
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I totally agree. Reggie gotta give him 3 years. He will be given 3 anyway. DA gotta give him 2 at most. Things are in flux, always keen an open mind tho. At the same time tho, you can already see DA is messing up, hiring Knapp firstly, soon as he did that credibility lost, but especially as the season wore on, him being resolute about Knapp and not changing systems, blaming players or lack of talent (he even said it again this week), not to mention hawing it up with Fox and he will again with Vitt this week. He’s too passive. Too reluctant to make drastic changes inside his staff.
We’re seeing the cracks appear already, the fly on the wall stuff getting out. Players pushing Knapp (thus Allen) to implement more PBS, them for a long time refusing to budge and saying in interviews that the system will not change, it’s the players. Them finally relenting. The Dmac/Davis thing. Pryor’s “wherever that may be”. The Taiwan vs Adams hypocrisy. Etc etc.
Allen is on notice. He’s tied himself to Knapp and Knapp is gonna bring it all down unless he makes drastic changes. Save your job FFS!
November 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
he needs to fire him now….with a projector…
November 16th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I agree that it may not be a savvy move for Davis jr to fire allen as he could be painted with the brush that painted his pops.
This sucks though becuase allen clealry stinks at the moment
josh mcdaniel redux?
November 16th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Lefty12 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Alias,since you are so anti excuses,why have the Raiders sucked so bad the last 25 years-minus 3-4 years in the early 2000s?
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Simple bad drafts an FA pick ups. Oh yeah and poor coaching hires.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Looks like we got one Raider beat writer questioning DA now..
VIC Tafaur on twitter saying he doesnt get what the coaches are doing.
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Good news. The cracks are appearing. This MUST be done in order to protect the Raiders long-term. These beat writers must not be shills, must push. Do not just embrace.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Im not talking about reggie. Im talking about DA
Ok Da reminds me of Kiffin.. and it didnt help that he got the exact same OC in KNAPP
November 16th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
these guys have bought in to reggie blindly
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I havent bought in to RM blindly but he is a GM not a coach his job is to get good players in here and he wasnt in a good position to do that this year, Reggie’s test will come THIS offseason and we all will see whats what.
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I don’t know if anyone has bought into anything blindly but most individuals with half a brain are going to give the org more than half a season before they start spewing idiocy.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
more evidence that d.a isnt cutting the mustard, tommy kelly throwing his defensive teammates under the bus the other day.
talking about how they contained the run but no one covered the middle of the field.
This kind of open finger pointing smells too much like the 2nd callahan season, or the mike white debacle.
Some guys are very good coordinators but not all can be head coaches.
Of course he has to actually be given a shot before we can know if he is any good.
he probably nailed the interview, came with good references, but is falli9ng short in the actual hands on job
November 16th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Philip Adams has been on 4 teams in 4 years. in 2010 SF only had him return 4 punts as he fumbled once. 20 returns this and 2 fumbles this year. Why is he returning punts? he didnt return 1 punt for NE or seattle for the past 2 years. Why not have Dmoore return punts..its crazy imo. we couldve kept lee , cut adams and had dmoore return punts.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Sorry eastoak, I should have started my post as saying I agree with yours.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Exactly Seymour.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
more evidence that d.a isnt cutting the mustard, tommy kelly throwing his defensive teammates under the bus the other day.
talking about how they contained the run but no one covered the middle of the field.
This kind of open finger pointing smells too much like the 2nd callahan season, or the mike white debacle.
Some guys are very good coordinators but not all can be head coaches.
Of course he has to actually be given a shot before we can know if he is any good.
he probably nailed the interview, came with good references, but is falli9ng short in the actual hands on job
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I’m not worried about what Tommy Kelly thinks. Great interview, lousy against the run, will be gone after this season.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Can’t write the book on Big Mac after half a season. As for the coach, ultimately Big Mac’s hire and he will have to answer for it but DA clearly impressed upon him somehow and Big Mac delivered on his promise to let the HC hire his coaches. Like I said, ultimately Reggie had to answer for it just like Al but I’m not so sure Knapp was Reggie’s idea of a quality coach. The other thing to consider is DA didn’t have much to choose from at the time.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
East,I agree with you but aren’t those just excuses.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
more evidence that d.a isnt cutting the mustard, tommy kelly throwing his defensive teammates under the bus the other day.
talking about how they contained the run but no one covered the middle of the field.
This kind of open finger pointing smells too much like the 2nd callahan season, or the mike white debacle.
Some guys are very good coordinators but not all can be head coaches.
Of course he has to actually be given a shot before we can know if he is any good.
he probably nailed the interview, came with good references, but is falli9ng short in the actual hands on job
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Mistic the finger pointing started happening last season. That is the remnant of the Jackson debacle.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Do you imagine the Raiders in a media market like New York?
This team would be in the news for sucking balls like the Jets do on ESPN, everyday and every minute. I think not having those journalist pet bulls like the big markets do, makes losing less stressful?
I never read about the writers asking tough questions.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/16/3655558/raiderdamus-friday-foretelling-week-11-raiders-vs-saints
The Raiders are cratering and the Saints are rounding into form. Do our heroes stand a chance at home Sunday?
Greetings, Raider fans! It is I, RaiderDamus, the greatest seer in history. Last week I correctly predicted a blowout of the Raiders in Baltimore. Carson Palmer had a bit more success than I anticipated, but when you have to throw the ball constantly you are bound to rack up the yards. Quantity over quality and all that. This week, the Raiders don’t have any easier of a task attempting to stop Drew Brees and the rejuvenated New Orleans Saints.
The Saints were, earlier in the year, so bad they lost to the Chiefs at HOME. That’s really awful considering the Chiefs have won only that game so far this season. The bright and silver lining to this upcoming turd sandwich of a game is that no matter how awful the Raiders are, the Chiefs are much, much worse.
The Raiders themselves aren’t so much “bad” as they are “horribly maimed and brutalized” by which I mean they have a lot of guys hurt. For instance, pretty much their entire intended starting secondary. That’s bad news against anyone but against Drew Brees it is a death sentence. Brees is going to throw for over 400 yards, possibly in the first series alone.
The good news is, the Raider passing game is great and the Saints defense is pretty much the worst in the league. They rank 31st in passing yards allowed and dead last in rushing yards allowed. That last stat is irrelevant, as the Raiders would not be able to establish a successful rushing attack against the California School of the Deaf and Blind, but the first one is. Carson Palmer will also break 400 yards, although he may take the better part of the first half to do so.
The thing about this game is that the Raiders will probably not be able to make many, if any, key stops on the Saints offense while the Raiders’ general ineptitude and stubbornness will hinder them from keeping up with the onslaught. This will not be a blowout like last week but it will be more lopsided than the play on the field should dictate.
Saints win, 55-28.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Snapbacks&Tattoos!!!
November 16th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
If Mark fires Reggie after one season, you can look forward to us being a league-wide joke for another decade, at least.
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Exactly.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Vic Tarfur is one of the biggest propganda/media types you love to hate.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Hi Peoples
Sure do luv my RRAAAIIIDDDEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSS!!!!
But i got a bug up my ass i need to get off my chest. Why is payton manning carving it up in Denver with the no huddle, and the air be so thin thers hardly any of it. And Flacco carved us up too with the no huddle. But knapp doesn’t want to use it because are players get to winded and the pace is to fast. Are we for reals? Dams, wtf is goin on with my Raiders. So it aint so, Joe, say it aint so!
And why does knapp have to call the plays when CP3O is better? cuz knapp doesn’t want to make his precious ZBS look like sh*t, even tho it is..
Thanks people for letting me scratch the bug off my hind ass. Peace out. Chill.
RRRAAAIIIDDEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 16th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
What many won’t acknowledge is the national media knew what a total mess and joke this organization was when Reggie was hired.They are smart enough to realize he had very little to work with when he came here.They also realize he needs time to straighten out this cluster-#*ck he inherited.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Reggie is a FRAUD.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
What is really fraudulent is these players being paid to perform, yet not doing so.
There are a select few who earn their paycheck, but, for the most part, the Raiders roster is littered with frauds.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Lefty I’m only 30 so in my lifetime watching the Raiders i’ve seen Joe bugel, Mike White, Callahan, Kiffin, Art Shell part 2, and a few more I may have forgotten, and we all know about the slew of terrible FA’s we have picked up (Larry brown, Javon Walker to name a few) over the years and terrible drafts to go with it AL is at fault for most of this and he was the owner so what are you gonna do? And thats why we have sucked most of the past 2 decades I see those as facts not excuses.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
What is really fraudulent is these players being paid to perform, yet not doing so.
There are a select few who earn their paycheck, but, for the most part, the Raiders roster is littered with frauds.
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Any player out there deserves to be paid.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
ok sweeties i am taking beech dawg back to the crib so we can stir the chocolate pudding together. then he licks the stick
November 16th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
There are a number of Al-leftovers that are overrated or time to move on from.
But there is a lot of talent on this team, enough to be a far more competitive team. Not a team that gives up 97 points in two games whatsoever.
Perfect example of why it is coaching, not talent…
The raiders run-game/OL last year vs this year, with essentially all the same pieces but the one change being a schematic one.
Coaching alone has killed the run game. It’s not lack of talent.
The same can be said of the defense and special teams, and in various parts in the passing game.
Another perfect example…
The neglect of Reece for SEVEN weeks. All coaching. Soon as they genuinely endeavor, his natural talent is on display, a game-breaker. Like Taiwan, Ausberry and Pryor can be if given the opportunity.
There are some players from the Reggie era that also need to be removed. It’s not at all a lack of talent, especially not a blame Al one. All he did was accrue talent, athletic ability.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
KoolKell
And any owner deserves to see results from his well-paid employees.
So who really is at fault here?
Why is Mark Davis seemingly sitting on his laurels watching the Raiders’ ship sink further into the abyss?
November 16th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Why is Mark Davis seemingly sitting on his laurels watching the Raiders’ ship sink further into the abyss?
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Because, like a good owner, Mark is allowing his football people to run things. Good owners don’t micromanage in this day and age.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
more evidence that d.a isnt cutting the mustard, tommy kelly throwing his defensive teammates under the bus the other day.
talking about how they contained the run but no one covered the middle of the field.
This kind of open finger pointing smells too much like the 2nd callahan season, or the mike white debacle.
Some guys are very good coordinators but not all can be head coaches.
Of course he has to actually be given a shot before we can know if he is any good.
he probably nailed the interview, came with good references, but is falli9ng short in the actual hands on job
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Mistic the finger pointing started happening last season. That is the remnant of the Jackson debacle.
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I hear you but hu jack is nowhere near oakland today, so what happened last year has no bearing on what players are doing today.
Kelly has long been known to run his mouth and under perform, so i will agree that it may not be the best gauge of allens command of the team.
Im sure you will also agree that it doesnt look good for allen when players do this.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
When i think of the Raiders the last five years Mike Mitchell comes to mind first. There is a good reason we suck right now with picks like that.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
East,why are you trying to argue with me?I asked Alias why we lost when Davis was alive.He refuses to acknowledge we suck today because of what Davis did in the past and says they are just excuses.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaiderDuck
Agreed.
I was referencing the massive amounts of finger pointing that goes on in this place.
It’s DA. It’s Knapp. It’s McKenzie, It’s, it’s, it’s.
The show may not be a good one to watch, but, we all have to sit here and let it play out.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Im sure being that big mack allowed d.a to pick his own staff, that the staff (including knapp) that he assembled is also being used as a factor for grading d.a by mac.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Isn’t it just as simple as if your defense stinks, the players stink?
For example, the incident the baltimore coach was talking about. Who checked our defense out of pass protection and in to a run defense based on Flacco FAKING an audible????
Our team football IQ stinks man.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
havent seen jerry write about the potential blackout this weekend. maybe he really thinks we are playing seattle. don’t worry jerry, its palmers fault you made a mistake in the post above. But rolando’s mom thought you wrote a good post. next year when reggie doesnt have these cap issues you ll be able to proofread your own post you get paid to do. 2013 no excuses
November 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
im out peace
November 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Harrison Barnes is my early pick for ROY, the W’s stole this young man. He is the real deal……….period
November 16th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
The disarray that this team is experiencing this season, not just last two weeks, but last two weeks is a good snapshot of that disarray, it’s evident there’s a division and dissent going on. The coaching staff are losing the players. The coaches are not developing the players. The coaches are running schemes that do not suit the players. But on that last point, a good GM/HC does not blow up the entire talent inherited PURELY to acquire players that fit a system of an OC that probably wont last beyond this year. You do not gut your roster of talent and feed the rest of your NFL rivals talent.
And another thing, every GM has his scholarship players, that handful of guys you keep at the tail-end of the 53 roster because you cant stash them on the practice squad.
Al was 100% right…it’s the coaches job to turn talent into contributors. You cannot win long-term without talent at many positions. It’s not about choir boys and mediocre talents who can follow systems. You strip this team of the talent inherited and we will suffer far worse years, especially as you cannot draft 7 out of 7 sure-fire winners. You will always find that 2 out of 7. So it takes a lot of years to refill a roster with raw talent.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Im sure being that big mack allowed d.a to pick his own staff, that the staff (including knapp) that he assembled is also being used as a factor for grading d.a by mac.
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No doubt. This is the great thing about moving to a modern organization: Unlike Hue, Cable, Kiffin, Norv and whoever else, Allen absolutely CANNOT claim that he was stuck with this assistant or that assistant by the regime. He can’t say he was forced to play a certain style of offense or defense. It’s 100% all on him.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Nycraider
Jerry along with the SF Chron’s Vic Tarfur have stated the game will be televised locally due to enough tickets being sold on Wednesday.
November 16th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
If HB stays healthy with Curry and KT shooting it. Look the heck out for the W’s in the very bnear future I have seen us with a 1,2 and 3 like this since Run TMC. They are spectacular…
November 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Lefty12 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
East,why are you trying to argue with me?I asked Alias why we lost when Davis was alive.He refuses to acknowledge we suck today because of what Davis did in the past and says they are just excuses.
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not trying to argue just sayn.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Klay Thompson looks like a slightly more athletic Kyle Korver.
SG in the NBA is a tough position, and more nights than not, he will be outplayed.
Barnes looks good though, and love Jack and Landry off the bench.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
priestt,
I havent always agreed but i respect you. you obviously have been alive longer than me, and i felt the wisdom in your message to me yesterday.
Thanks, & i will keep it in mind
November 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Btw the raiders game will be televised locally. From a Jerry McDonald update on SFGate a few articles ago.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
The Raiders have been unwatchable since Al died.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
GG
The players Reggie McKenzie have jettisoned have made little to no impact elsewhere.
Routt – Cut.
Boss – Concussed and out.
Wimbley – 3.5 sacks with the Titans.
Bush – Relegated to nothing more than short-yardage back with Bears.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
The biggest offseason loss has been CLEARLY Sam Satele.
I think that is without debate at this stage.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Damian Lillard looks pretty good.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
GG
The players Reggie McKenzie have jettisoned have made little to no impact elsewhere.
Routt – Cut.
Boss – Concussed and out.
Wimbley – 3.5 sacks with the Titans.
Bush – Relegated to nothing more than short-yardage back with Bears.
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Louis Murphy: 1 catch a game, if he’s lucky.
Bruce Campbell: Hasn’t even seen the field yet.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
249.GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
The disarray that this team is experiencing this season, not just last two weeks, but last two weeks is a good snapshot of that disarray, it’s evident there’s a division and dissent going on. The coaching staff are losing the players. The coaches are not developing the players. The coaches are running schemes that do not suit the players. But on that last point, a good GM/HC does not blow up the entire talent inherited PURELY to acquire players that fit a system of an OC that probably wont last beyond this year. You do not gut your roster of talent and feed the rest of your NFL rivals talent.
And another thing, every GM has his scholarship players, that handful of guys you keep at the tail-end of the 53 roster because you cant stash them on the practice squad.
Al was 100% right…it’s the coaches job to turn talent into contributors. You cannot win long-term without talent at many positions. It’s not about choir boys and mediocre talents who can follow systems. You strip this team of the talent inherited and we will suffer far worse years, especially as you cannot draft 7 out of 7 sure-fire winners. You will always find that 2 out of 7. So it takes a lot of years to refill a roster with raw talent.
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GG- You’velearned something over the years. This is a very stute observation. It’s not the popular viewpoint but an experienced well thought out viewpoint. It’s also very true.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Damian Lillard looks pretty good.
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I was thrilled when the Blazers took him. He’s gonna be a star.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Just Fire Baby
Certainly.
Satele – a zone-blocking center, mind you – is anchoring the Colts offensive line.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Letting Mike Bush walk and failing to replace him with a legitimate back up was a smooth move, Reggie.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
The raiders run-game/OL last year vs this year, with essentially all the same pieces but the one change being a schematic one.
Coaching alone has killed the run game. It’s not lack of talent.
The same can be said of the defense and special teams, and in various parts in the passing game.
Another perfect example…
The neglect of Reece for SEVEN weeks.
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This is not the same line.
Briesel is worse than Satele was at LG, Smith is worse than Barnes, and Carlisle is worse than Wiz was at LG.
THREE positions with different players who stink at those positions.
Reece is now getting DMac and Goodson’s touches. Are you really suggesting that should have happened a long time ago?
November 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Just Fire Baby
Certainly.
Satele – a zone-blocking center, mind you – is anchoring the Colts offensive line.
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Everybody thought Baby Wiz would be a natural NFL center. Wrong. He’s a guard playing out of position. Next year’s guards will probably be Wiz and Bergs.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
priestt,
I havent always agreed but i respect you. you obviously have been alive longer than me, and i felt the wisdom in your message to me yesterday.
Thanks, & i will keep it in mind
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No thank you, I just wanted to help.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I would like to believe in the ascent of man but then I come here and lose all hope.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I’m talking about the fear of them gutting this roster of Al (PBS/Coryell/Man) players in lieu of insisting on ZBS/WCO/Zone fits for an OC that wont be here long-term.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Satele – a zone-blocking center, mind you – is anchoring the Colts offensive line.
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The great Tom Cable resurrected his career.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Duck,
He’ll be carving up my Lakers for a long time…I agree though, nice pick.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
I hope MM34 starts this Sunday. It would give us a chance to get a good look at him. Dudes got good size for a safety and can bang you up. I’ve seen him get burned but have only seen him play in spurts, so I’m looking forward to that. TB has started 50 something games so I think it would do Branch some good to watch the game from the sideline. Give him a different perspective of sorts.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The biggest offseason loss has been CLEARLY Sam Satele.
I think that is without debate at this stage.
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LOL
Disagree.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Letting Mike Bush walk and failing to replace him with a legitimate back up was a smooth move, Reggie.
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This was the first time I heard it, but Corky said in his chat this week, that they offered Bush a comparable deal and he wanted to leave.
Who knows.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
“Why is Mark Davis seemingly sitting on his laurels watching the Raiders’ ship sink further into the abyss?”
“Btw the raiders game will be televised locally. From a Jerry McDonald update on SFGate a few articles ago.”
And that’s what Mark Davis is up to selling tickets he is not resting on his laurels as you claimed.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Letting Mike Bush walk and failing to replace him with a legitimate back up was a smooth move, Reggie.
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This was the first time I heard it, but Corky said in his chat this week, that they offered Bush a comparable deal and he wanted to leave.
Who knows.
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Remember that when Bush went to Chicago, the Bears and Matt Forte were locked in a major contract dispute. Bush may have been figuring Forte would hold out or force a trade, thus making him the starter.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
guys enjoy ur evening, gotta go watch my knicks..been along time since they had a coach who got them to play d. sorry laker fans my heart goes out to you when dantoni tries to tell kobe to spread the floor and move the ball..gonna be tough to see him hurt that franchise..peace
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Corky is a HACK.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson & Just Fire Baby
Read in the Chicago Tribune story a few months back Mike Bush said the Raiders contract was near identical to the Bears deal.
Bush said he wanted a change of scenery and a more involved role offensively.
Instead, Bush has the same, if not worse, role in Chicago he had in Oakland.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I cant stand when people say “dont talk bad about players in front of the media” Hue called those bums out last year as he should have. If you make MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS playing a kids game then drive off in your Bentely to your mansion and trophy wife,then getting thrown under the bus should come with the territory if you dont play well or up to standards, whats the big deal play well or get exposed in front of the world for the FRAUD you are by your coach, you still get paid so why not. Tyvon Branch should be the next guy up to get tossed under as he has gotten his big payday then proceeded to miss assignments force 0 fumbles pick off 0 passes.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Silverandblack666
Thought tix sales were Amy Trask’s speciality.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Eastoaklandraider
Bill Calahan said it best: “Dumbest team in America.”
November 16th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Klay Thompson looks like a slightly more athletic Kyle Korver.
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Harrison Barnes should be a superstar in that league. And Ezili may have some hope for being solid as well.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Eastoaklandraider
Oh, almost forgot.
Al Davis wasn’t fond of the Dumbest Team in America call out Calahan did…
November 16th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Hey J Hill my Dubs arent expected to win a title any time soon however the Fake show are expected to win now, and there off to a helluva start lol, but on the contrary to what many think I feel D’Antoni was a good hire, he will get Nash involved the way he should be and he will bring “Show Time” back. The knock has been he cant coach D, but hte good thing for him is he wont have to teach Kobe, Artest, ans Howard how to play D as they are natural defenders, but the problem I believe will do them in will be their old legs runnin an gunnin all season plus their weak bench and Nash having to guard top guards in the playoffs it wont look good against Paul or Westbrook.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
259.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
The biggest offseason loss has been CLEARLY Sam Satele.
I think that is without debate at this stage.
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I was laughed at after the 2010 season for pleading to keep Sampson. Well the Raiders did. When they let him walk this offseason I thought it was a bad move.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I said we would be lucky to get 100 games out of Bogut.
Realize Monte needed to go, but couldn’t we have just gotten a draft pick and an expiring deal or something?
That dude is toast!!!!
November 16th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
ZBS/WCO/ZoneD…are all systems predicated on getting by without talent, athletic ability. Because there are so many more mediocre players out there, hard to find specimens with special abilities. Those systems rely more on assignment and guile, hence “zones”.
Al built a roster full of PBS/Coryell/Man fits. And the last couple years we’ve had a 53 roster almost entirely full of young players ready to come together as a unit for 5+ years under the right coaching and development.
It was a mistake from the top to force a schematic change on a roster built for other schemes AND on the verge of breaking out or further developing under previous scheme. Al Saunders still there is our only hope right now offensively. Removing Pollack and bringing Wisniewski back.
Defensively, Tarver/Allen need to rethink a lot. All the new DB coaches replacing the former ones has been a problem too.
Special Teams coach was another mistake.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I cant stand when people say “dont talk bad about players in front of the media” Hue called those bums out last year as he should have. If you make MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS playing a kids game then drive off in your Bentely to your mansion and trophy wife,then getting thrown under the bus should come with the territory if you dont play well or up to standards, whats the big deal play well or get exposed in front of the world for the FRAUD you are by your coach, you still get paid so why not.
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True. But when you are up by 12 with 7 minutes to go in a must win game and you don’t go for two? What’s the difference between being up 12 and being up 13? 2 TD’s beat you. And they did. And then you throw your players under the bus?
November 16th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
vic has more cajones than cork and mcdonald combined….thanks vic….
November 16th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I saw that already EastOak.
I have no illusions about the Lakers roster. Old and Slow around the perimeter.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
vic has more cajones than cork and mcdonald combined….thanks vic….
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+1
November 16th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
not thats a coach…hue understood.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Assistant Shuffle (Week 10 Version)
Can Stay:
Kelly Skipper
John DeFilippo
Ted Gilmore
Mark Hutson
Johnny Holland
On the Bubble:
Greg Knapp
Jason Tarver
Can Go:
Terrell Williams
Johnny Lynn
Clayton Lopez
Should be Tarred and Feathered:
Frank Pollack
Steve Hoffman
November 16th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Cant beleive Mistic doesnt think Johnny Football can be a legit QB in the NFL he basicaly went up against a NFL caliber D in Bama and did pretty darn well. But I cant wait to hear his excuses about JC when he falls on his face against the 9ers.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I’m talking about the fear of them gutting this roster of Al (PBS/Coryell/Man) players in lieu of insisting on ZBS/WCO/Zone fits for an OC that wont be here long-term.
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Thus my comments. This is exactly why this team has been stuck in the same mode for over a decaded the new coach always wants his guys. Instead of coaching to the talent which takes a lot lese time.
It’s easy to look at an unproductive roster and say there is no talant here. Great coaches notice the talent and use it accordingly. The other coaches make excuses.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
gg preach it man…thats exactly what i see…
November 16th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders
I will give a thumbs up to good ol’ Vic when he asks the “Why not start Taiwan Jones” in a presser and writes a story about how DA, Knapp, etc. ducked the question.
I want a column from Tarfur. He writes pretty good ones. Surprised he hasn’t written a double-standard column.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
hopefully mark realizes this is his baby…own it.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
JC has to start against a pissed of 9′r defense? Oh this is going to be good.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
GG is the man.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
hopefully mark realizes this is his baby…own it.
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He is, by hiring a respected football man and letting him run the team.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I cant stand when people say “dont talk bad about players in front of the media” Hue called those bums out last year as he should have. If you make MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS playing a kids game then drive off in your Bentely to your mansion and trophy wife,then getting thrown under the bus should come with the territory if you dont play well or up to standards, whats the big deal play well or get exposed in front of the world for the FRAUD you are by your coach, you still get paid so why not.
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True. But when you are up by 12 with 7 minutes to go in a must win game and you don’t go for two? What’s the difference between being up 12 and being up 13? 2 TD’s beat you. And they did. And then you throw your players under the bus?
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thats true, but the DC and the players still went out and gave up those 2 TDs, and what if we miss the 2pt conv? still in the same boat.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
really vic needs to do that….we know jerry and cork wont.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
I have to step out for a few hours. Will check back in. Priest and Al_is_theraiders and many others can continue to apply the blowtorch. I will as always log back in and read every single comment made till I catch up
November 16th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Great coaches notice the talent and use it accordingly. The other coaches make excuses.
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I agree with this.
Should certainly be running more Ausberry and Reece TOGETHER attacking the middle of the field.
Shotgun with DMac in the backfield type stuff.
3-4 defense since our DE had no pass rush ability.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
It’s easy to look at an unproductive roster and say there is no talant here. Great coaches notice the talent and use it accordingly. The other coaches make excuses.
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agreed, this team has talent, but our coaches arent good chess players, they are still playing checkers.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
But it’s like everyone was saying we had the best RB in the league. So how could we not try and feature that guy?
November 16th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Question As Raider Fans Shouldn’t we be pulling for Jason Campbell and Michael Bush to do great on the Bears?
Comp Picks?
November 16th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Pass rush has to be close to bottom of the barrel this season.
I wouldn’t be suprised to see Brees say “hike” then break out a lawn chair and start reading the sunday paper.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Maybe the double-standard thing is a Green Bay thing.
Was scouring Rotoworld for player news and ran into an interesting thing regarding Reggie Bush, coach Philbin and the Dolphins.
Bush fumbled and was removed. Yet WR Brett Hartline does the same thing and he’s in a play later.
Flip it to Oakland… Philip Adams muffs punt, still in to return next punt. Taiwan Jones, well, we know what’s up with him. Fumbles in games/practices.
Philbin of course is from the Green Bay coaching staff (last season). McKenzie is another former Green Bay associate….
Maybe the double-standard is a Packer thing?
November 16th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Petition Mark Davis for JHILL for OC next year…cannot be worse than Knapp.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
EastOak,
Do you blame the coaches for Giordano blowing his assignments?
I actually blame them for not playing MM34 earlier in place of Gio.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
“Silverandblack666
Thought tix sales were Amy Trask’s speciality.”
Sure but think about it every since his old man passed he has made sure its a sell out by buying up the unsold tickets then giving them away in some kind of marketing campaign I cant believe I am having to explain this to you I would have thought most Raider fans understood this…
November 16th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Question As Raider Fans Shouldn’t we be pulling for Jason Campbell and Michael Bush to do great on the Bears?
Comp Picks?
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Honestly I could care less if they do well or not, I just want to hear Mistics excuses if JC plays bad which I think he will.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Lorenzo Neal is the first local media guy to call out DA on the Game this week…
When Tafur prints something questioning DA, that’ll be a real crack…
November 16th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Question As Raider Fans Shouldn’t we be pulling for Jason Campbell and Michael Bush to do great on the Bears?
Comp Picks?
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I guess so.
But it’s hard to root for guys who basically gave us the finger.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Do we really care?
Amazing how many players are “hurting” when your team stinks.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Time to talk draft.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I got a feeling that Hairball is gonna turn the defense loose on Soup.
Might see Bears #3
November 16th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
EastOak,
Do you blame the coaches for Giordano blowing his assignments?
I actually blame them for not playing MM34 earlier in place of Gio.
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No I dont blame them for Gio because he’s a bum to begin with, but like you I blame them for not giving MM his spot.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Great coaches notice the talent and use it accordingly. The other coaches make excuses.
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I agree with this.
Should certainly be running more Ausberry and Reece TOGETHER attacking the middle of the field.
Shotgun with DMac in the backfield type stuff.
3-4 defense since our DE had no pass rush ability.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I don’t think we have the LBs for 3-4.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I don’t think we have the RDE to play the 4-3
November 16th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I don’t think we have the RDE to play the 4-3
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We don’t. #77 is obviously not the answer.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Satele had a 2 million cap hit for Indy this year… and we get Briesel. great
November 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
GG Says:
I’m talking about the fear of them gutting this roster of Al (PBS/Coryell/Man) players in lieu of insisting on ZBS/WCO/Zone fits for an OC that wont be here long-term.
DA appears to be willing to hitch his coaching star to that system. Knapp can be replaced without abandoning that system. Barring remarkable progress offensively in our remaining games, I would expect a different OC, same system next year. And I don’t care about our offensive stats. Product of an over achieving QB and pathetic running game and offensive line. Props to Palmer and the rest is on the OC.
November 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
briesel another reggie flop…
November 16th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
I’d say Briesel is on the Oline coach.
Pretty sure the GM took the advice of the Oline coach on that one.
Briesel won’t be here next year.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Shaughnessy is a better fit at LDE.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I don’t think we have the RDE to play the 4-3
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I think Shaugnessy gets another year, he’s had some moments but this is kind of a sophmore year for him.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
329.J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
I’d say Briesel is on the Oline coach.
Pretty sure the GM took the advice of the Oline coach on that one.
Briesel won’t be here next year.
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Wouldn’t bother me a bit. But isn’t on a 5 year contract?
November 16th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Btw, I think it easier to find a RDE over NT and 2 OLBs.
Please don’t tell me we have Players capable of playing OLB in 3-4.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I expect Raiders to get two comp picks, but only 5th rounders.
Wimbley, routt, Campbell, bush, aren’t nnamdi
November 16th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I expect Raiders to get two comp picks, but only 5th rounders.
Wimbley, routt, Campbell, bush, aren’t nnamdi
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Remember that neither Wimbley, Routt nor Boss will count for comp picks. Comp picks only apply to free agents who signed elsewhere, NOT players who were released. That’s also why the Colts won’t get a comp pick for Peyton.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Jackasspuria i didn’t mean to sound like an ass I am sorry for putting it that way
November 16th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Routt was cut, no comp for him. Same with Wimbley I think?
November 16th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Wimbley and Routt were released, no comp picks for them.
Only those that leave in FA. Bush and Soup, and Satele.
Probably a 5th and two 6th’s.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
DAmmnit, a little late on the draw, lol
November 16th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Branch practiced, but status up in the air Whether Mike Mitchell makes his first start at strong safety won’t be determined until game day as Tyvon Branch emerged from the locker room after warm-ups and drills and was a limited participant in practice Friday. [...]
November 16th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Please don’t tell me we have Players capable of playing OLB in 3-4.
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Curry and Wheeler
Burris and 55 in the middle.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Seymour Bryant Houston
Wheeler Burris 55 Curry
November 16th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Campbell is starting for the Bears this weekend.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Silverandblack666
No offense taken.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
“Campbell is starting for the Bears this weekend.”
Good reason to bet on the 49ers
November 16th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
269-what a great observation and totally true.
November 16th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Letting Mike Bush walk and failing to replace him with a legitimate back up was a smooth move, Reggie.
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Fantastic and unfathomable mistake #132 & #133
November 16th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: Ravens 38 Raiders 28
antispy3 Says: Raiders 29 Ravens 23
Baker Laker Says: Oak 45 Balt 41
BlackSunday Says: Raiders 24 Ravesn 21
dr_robert Says: 27-20 too.
fingers Says: Raiders 30….. Heckle & Jeckel 24
GG Says: Raiders 33 Ravens 27
JONGRUDEN2013 Says: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Just Fire Baby: JFB: Raiders 33 Poets 24
Los Raida Locos Says: Raiders 38 Baltimore 28
mcfadden20. Says: Raiders 37 blackbirds 0
Method to my Madness: Raiders 24 Ravens 20
MiamiRaider78 Says: Oakland Raiders 39-Baltimore 34
Plunketthead Says: Raiders 37 blackbirds 28
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says: Raiders 38 Heckle and Jeckyl 23
qodrn: Raiders 24 Silly Black Birds: 21
raidermarty Says: RAIDERS 24 ravens 13
Raider O Says: Raiders 31 Ravens 28
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 39 Baltimore 20
RaiderRockstar Says: villains with swords 32 purple martins 17
November 16th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
And we begin again….last year was really more fun.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
briesel another reggie flop…
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Fantastic and unfathomable mistake #187
November 16th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Saints 45
Raiders 17
November 16th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Please don’t tell me we have Players capable of playing OLB in 3-4.
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Curry and Wheeler
Burris and 55 in the middle.
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So we have capable players but the staff (DC) refuses to use 3-4 to help increase our pass rush?
Damn that monkey!
November 16th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Raiders 51
Saints 48
November 16th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
palmer will be out next if that oline doesn’t get itself together.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Aints 45
Raiders 24
November 16th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Wheeler is 240 pounds (maybe), and you don’t want him playing against an OTs and TEs the entire game. It’s not going to work. Just because it works on madden it doesn’t mean it will work on the field.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I had a wondeful opportunity to observe a warbler building a nest today. I was mesmerized by the intricate and meticulous manner in which he gathered the twigs neccessary to build the nest, with each twig placed perfectly in the right manner so as to build a fine foundation for the tiny warblings that would soon arrive.
The nest was crafted in such a position amongst the branches that it would stay firmly affixed should wind and storm threaten it’s stability.
It made me think of Reggie…our “nest builder” who is meticulously gathering the “twigs” (players) who will help build a strong foundation for our future.
With a firm foundation in place, it will allow the “warbler” (Reggie) to place his eggs (future draft picks) in a warm and safe environment which will allow then to be cared for and nurtured; and in due time, to hatch into fine, productive players.
Just as a warbler’s nest takes time and meticulous, painstaking effort, so too will the foundation of the franchise.
The “eggs” shall hatch my friends…perhaps to the tune of a winning record by year 9 of this re-build.
With a little luck and a sprinkling of stardust, we may just be able to have our “nest” completed by year 10.
Don’t look now, but you may just see a playoff team being built by Reggie the “nest builder”.
Patience is the cry heard in the east bay…will we heed it’s call?
It’s not that far off my friends…
10 and ….then.
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UPDATE:
I had the good pleasure to re-visit the tiny warbler yet again this afternoon.
He come tp my bird feeder which is close to my kitchen window and he seemed to chirp “Ten and then…chirp chirp…”Ten and then”…..chirp.
Even the wee warbler has far surpassing knowledge at times.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
I think Wheeler is a better fit at ILB in 3-4.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
from the Saints website:
The Saints will look to put together their first three-game winning streak of 2012 and claw back to .500 for the season in Sunday’s contest at the Oakland Raiders. It is the first matchup in a two-game swing against Bay Area foes, as New Orleans will host the San Francisco 49ers on November 25 at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome.
It will also mark New Orleans’ final contest against AFC West opponents in 2012. The Saints are coming off a dramatic 31-27 victory over the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday and have gained momentum in winning four of their last five contests.
“We prepared well last week, had a chance to compete and won the game,” said Saints assistant head coach/linebackers Joe Vitt. “We are certainly proud of our players and the game plan the coaching staff put together. Now it’s on to Oakland.”
The Saints and the Raiders have met 11 times with the series knotted at 5-5-1. The Saints are 2-2 in matchups played in Oakland. They have won three of the last four in the series.
The series has been defined by several hard-fought contests as five of the games have been decided by a touchdown or less. The first meeting in the series, which took place at Tulane Stadium on October 23, 1968, ended in the first tie in franchise history at 21-21. New Orleans would not capture a win in the series until 20 years later to the day on October 23, 1988, a 20-6 victory at the Superdome that improved their record at the time to 7-1.
Sunday’s contest will be regionally televised on FOX (WVUE FOX-8 locally) with Dick Stockton handling play-by-play, John Lynch serving as color analyst and Jennifer Hale as the sideline reporter. The game can be heard on the New Orleans Saints radio network (WWL 870 AM and 105.3 FM locally) with Jim Henderson handling play-by-play, Hokie Gajan serving as color analyst and Kristian Garic on the Saints sidelines.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
240 isn’t big enough for OLB???
OLBs are supposed to be bigger than ILBs???
November 16th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
And a transcript of Joe Vitt’s press conference. (has he been watching the same team we have?)
Opening Statement: “Today we installed our third down package both offensively and defensively. We had good work. Defensively, the Raiders are going to give us a lot of different looks. Some of these dogs and blitzes are familiar, that D.A. (Dennis Allen) took here and integrated in Denver and brought with him out there. They’re tough, they are challenging. We are going to have our hands full. Offensively, Carson Palmer knows where to go with the ball. Gregg Knapp, their offensive coordinator, really does a good job of creating mismatches. Pattern recognition and making sure we challenge every throw is going to be critical. Zach Strief did not practice today. Junior Galette did not practice today. Corey White did not practice today. Their status is the same today as it was yesterday. Courtney Roby was full and Darren Sproles was full.”
Can you talk about the Raiders if they have Darren McFadden this week? And if they don’t have him?
“It certainly creates another element to their offense. They have kind of the same running game that they put in out there a couple of years when Tom Cable was still the head coach. It’s that zone scheme that was first implemented out in Denver with Alex Gibbs and Mike Shanahan. They do a good job with it. He (McFadden) does a good job. He is a one-cut runner that can crease you and then get to top speed quickly. This blocking scheme and this offense is really catered to what he does best. Listen, their other guys have done a good job with it. McFadden gives you that extra element of making somebody miss a tackle and going the full distance.”
What does Jonathan Vilma need to do to see more snaps?
“He is going to see more snaps. With Jonathan Vilma, the biggest thing (challenge) I had as his position coach was protecting Jonathan Vilma against himself. He is a warrior. He wants to play every snap, he wants be in on every play and I saw it first-hand a year ago, what it did to him when he tried to play with that knee. He wound up having to get a surgery during the season and a major surgery during the offseason. He missed all of training camp so when he came back to play we were going to put him on a training camp rep count where he was going to get a certain amount every game. His reps are going to be up. We need him. He’s getting better every day; his pad level, changing direction, it’s fun to see (it all continue to improve).”
Any timetable of when he will be at full health?
“He is full health right now every time he plays. Situations in games, the packages we have, his rep count is going to go up.”
Is it different because he switched positions?
“No. Every good football (player) we have, we find a place for him on the field.”
Is that a difficult thing to manage, when you have to protect the player from himself?
“Yes, especially with him. He’s a warrior. He wants to play every down. He wants to be with his teammates. He wants to make plays and he wants to help us win. There are some guys that want to play because they’re selfish, they want more balls thrown their way and they want to up (increase) their contracts. Then, there are other guys that want to play because they want to be a part of their team, they want to be a part of something bigger than themselves and that’s Jonathan Vilma. I don’t think I have to explain to anybody my respect for this man, his body of work, (and) how important he is to this football team. Again, we’ve got to do it the right way. This is still a long season.”
Jabari Greer said after the Atlanta game that he was a little depressed before the final play. What does a comment like that say about him and how he is playing?
“Jabari Greer was on our championship football team. We saw a lot of really unique qualities when we acquired him from Buffalo. A year ago at this time, he had the best stats in the National Football League for corners targeted. I think the completion percentage against him was only 40 percent. We trust Jabari Greer. Jabari Greer is a great teammate. Jabari Greer works his butt off every day and in every game to get better. I can’t tell you why or what he’s thinking in his heart when he says that but he certainly knows deep down that we have confidence in him and trust him, as does his teammates.”
November 16th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
240 isn’t big enough for OLB???
OLBs are supposed to be bigger than ILBs???
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No it’s almost always the opposite, in a 4/3 but in a 3/4 you’ll often find the outside guys are OLB/DE’s so in many cases they will be bigger more stout guys. Because they are essentially your pass rushers.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
3-4 is feasible with current roster.
Would certainly not be a bad idea to trot out the 3-4 from time to time, even if we mainly play from a 4 man front most of the game. Just to have a look and analyze it in live action.
Kelly-Bryant-Houston
Tollefson/Carter-Burris-Wheeler-Shaughnessy
or on other downs
Burris-Curry-McClain-Wheeler
November 16th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
And if/when we’re getting blown off the field, bring out some of the rookies in the 3-4 to have a look.
Crawford OLB
Bilukidi NT/DE
November 16th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
ilverandblack666 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
“Campbell is starting for the Bears this weekend.”
Good reason to bet on the 49ers ====== OF COURSE!….ALWAYS PICK THE WHITE QB AGAINST THE BABOON QB…YOU WILL WIN 65% OF THE TIME!!!….EASY MONEY!!!….PUT THE HOUSE ON THE RAVENS TOO!!!…LEFTDITCH BAAAAWAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
November 16th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
We were talking 3-4, Priest.
Both of your OLBs don’t need to be elephant hybrid DEs.
Clay Matthews is not that big at all.
With the 3 DTs we’d have on the DL, and that big arsse LB 55 in there, Curry and Wheeler MIGHT be fine as speed off the edge.
Wouldn’t hurt to try something since we have no pass rush from the RDE spot.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
I saw Lincoln tonight. Daniel Day Lewis is amazing as Lincoln. It was a good movie. I had to put up with this annoying b*tch behind me who kept adding her own commentary. Some people should not be allowed into movie theaters.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Daniel Day Lewis is amazing in everything.
Perhaps we should hire him as HC/OC, I’m sure he could act out the part better (boom-tish)
November 16th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
If there was a movie made about Al Davis, Daniel Day Lewis would be great. Chirstopher Walken would make a great Al Davis too.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
@ post 303… Respect is earned and Reggie’s done nothing to earn that respect, so you can’t say he’s respectable when he hasn’t won anything yet, just being another mans assistant doesn’t eàrn yu respect.
November 16th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Yep (re Walken) for sure. I made same suggestion a couple years ago.
Good picture of Walken that could translate well to him playing Al…
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2008/04/allnewchris.jpg
November 16th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
We got to get some money together and get the Al Davis movie made. The title is obvious, ‘Just Win Baby’.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
You’d think someone out there in the movie industry (script-writer, producer) would have something in the works at the moment. It’s a sure-fire movie worth making.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
A young Jim Plunkett = Taylor Lautner
November 16th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Lane Kiffin played by Matt Damon.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Tom Cable played by Kevin James.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
John Madden = Seth Rogen
November 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Sure fire???
You know how many Raider fans actually didn’t like Davis?
That movie would only play to a certain crowd.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
It could be a made for ESPN movie.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
J Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
240 isn’t big enough for OLB???
OLBs are supposed to be bigger than ILBs???
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240 is big enough in 4-3 schemes, and they can be smaller in Tampa 2, but 3-4 OLBs need to be able to play against OTs (rushing the passer from the edge) most of the game, so they need to have good size and strength to be effective.
OLBs in 3-4 are bigger than ILBs.
Who do you think is bigger L Woodly and J Harison or their ILB (I forgot his name)?
November 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
The life and times of Al Davis is probably the most interesting sporting icon of the last few decades. Last american renegade in a particular industry. Kinda like a movie about Larry Flynt. Wouldn’t be a summer smash or blockbuster fx. But something that would be made for the Cannes type of crowd.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
James Harrison isn’t a big guy at all.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Hill Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
240 isn’t big enough for OLB???
OLBs are supposed to be bigger than ILBs???
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No it’s almost always the opposite, in a 4/3 but in a 3/4 you’ll often find the outside guys are OLB/DE’s so in many cases they will be bigger more stout guys. Because they are essentially your pass rushers.
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Exactly.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Harrison is 6 ft 240
November 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
3-4 OLBs on our roster that would fit…
Tollefson, Shaughnessy for sure.
Both agile enough too to be able to play some zone blitz (dick lebeau), where they drop back in coverage every now and then.
If we use all four of the current LBs in a 3-4, on certain downs, I’d have Curry-McClain on the inside, and Burris-Wheeler on the outside, because the latter are better in coverage, and the former are better at just blitzing from the inside or presenting bigger bodies on the inside in run-support.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Curry is 6′2 255lbs
November 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Or maybe Burris-Curry on the outside, blitzing more. And Wheeler-McClain on the inside, with Wheeler the defensive QB (smarter).
November 16th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
I saw Lincoln tonight. Daniel Day Lewis is amazing as Lincoln. It was a good movie. ======== ANOTHER LYING PROPAGANDA MOVIE FROM THAT JEW SCUM SPIELBERG….PURE GARBAGE.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
You didn’t answer my question.
Who is bigger him and Woodley or their ILBs?
Btw: 240+ is a good size for short LBs.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Size is only one issue. The other issue is that your OLB in 3-4 need to be able to rush the passer. Just because a LB like Curry or McClain are 250+ it doesn’t mean they have the skills to rush the passer on regular basis.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: If there was a movie made about Al Davis, Daniel Day Lewis would be great. Chirstopher Walken would make a great Al Davis too.=
We’ve been over this. James Woods, hands down, no question, end of story, …period.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
But that’s just my opinion.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I liked the movie Secretariat.
Nice family movie.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Tom Cable played by Kevin James.
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What? John Goodman plays Cable. Elvis Presley plays Al Davis. Alfred E Newman plays Mark Davis. Hue Jackson plays Hue Jackson.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
James Dean woulda lie a good Al Davis.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
J,
L Timmons (Steelers ILB is 6′1 230+.
your ILBs need to be able to cover since the OLB’s main job is to rush the passer.
Wheeler can play ILB, McClain too (he did it in college), but we don’t have OLBs capable of rushing the passer on regular basis, and that’s why the staff is not using 3-4.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I wonder if Palmer will make good with his promise never set foot inside Paul Brown stadium again.
If we get hammered by the Saints, and move to 3-7, maybe we’ll see Pryor get a look in.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
The point is what we are trying to do in the 4-3 isn’t working. We’ve SEEN it not work.
You have 3-4 coaches on the team with LBs who MIGHT be able to provide something. Let’s SEE if works or not.
November 16th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
but we don’t have OLBs capable of rushing the passer on regular basis, and that’s why the staff is not using 3-4.
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We don’t have a RDE capable of rushing the passer on a regular basis either. We’ve SEEN it.
Let’s SEE if what you believe is true. What have we got to lose?
November 16th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Kate Longworth@KLongworthCSN
A source close to the #Raiders tells me #JonGruden will be on-hand Sunday at Coliseum to light #AlDavis Memorial Flame prior to #Saints Gm
Per kate longworth twitter.
Hopefully JON is also talking to Mark about a Management/ Ownership posistion. A stake in the team.
November 16th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Mark and Jon are tight
November 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
You have 3-4 coaches on the team with LBs who MIGHT be able to provide something. Let’s SEE if works or not.
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I agree bro, and I understand your idea. I want to try anything at this point.
All I’m saying is these 3-4 coaches your are talking about must think we don’t have the players to run that scheme or they would have done that already (unless they are clueless).
November 16th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Maybe DA will exit the stage after the game against the Aints
November 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
I don’t think you can rip Reggie for hiring people he knows, it’s how it works in any professional sport. Lots of people want very few jobs and it’s a competitive industry with little job security. People who land one have to treat it as their only shot, so they immediately hire on people they know and trust. It’s not fair to the quality people already in the organization, but they’re not “your guys” and you don’t wanna risk taking the time to find out if you can work with them, cuz you don’t have it. You gotta get results and fast. Reggie has my support/benefit of the doubt for the next 2 years. The lack of improvement on defense has been disappointing, can’t really argue with any of his roster moves. Only head shaker has been Knapp and a new scheme that isn’t tailored to Palmer and McFadden.
November 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
J,
Sorry for the delayed response, but I was having a good session.
Vote Green in 2016!
November 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Btw, I do think that this staff lacks creativity. I’m not impressed.
November 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
-Knapp, Hoffman, and the OL coach need to go.
-Tarver is a rookie, and it’s hard to judge him due to our lack of talent (impact players) on defense. I prefer a vet DC, but that’s not going to happen IMO.
- Too early to judge the HC and the GM.
November 16th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
10 & Then!
LOL
You Monkeys are funny.
November 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Raider O Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Btw, I do think that this staff lacks creativity. I’m not impressed.
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That’s an understatement.
I have lost all confidence in Dennis Allen, and Greg Knapp is the worst offensive co-ordinator I have seen in 50 years of watching pro football.
No misdirection plays at all.
November 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Maybe Chuckie can give DA a little pep talk on how to get his unit fired up for the game. Maybe the scowl is all we need tomorrow to pull off an upset.
November 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/16/ray-guy-stupid-people-keep-punters-out-of-the-hall-of-fame/
November 17th, 2012 at 12:48 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Krappy, don’t get all worked up
Have you ever considered hitting an open mic night?
Since the real estate career has been a total bust, performing in front of an audience might get your confidence back
Worth a shot, old timer
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wow. what a beech meltdown. classic entertainment. he just got knocked out by kell. we’re enjoying this.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
there is no such thing as “black supremacy’
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oh mon. u think anyone who doesn’t agree with u is a “white supremacist”. and u don’t apparently know what that means. it means someone feels white people are better than non-whites, and they believe whites should rule the world.
for u to say there is no such thing as black supremacy is ludicrous. even if only one person believed in it, it would still exist. by definition, it would be anyone who believed blacks are superior than whites and should rule the world.
now, a lot of people would think that might include you. you spend A LOT of time talking about the superiority of the black man. u may try to veil it, but it’s clear to everyone.
and there are plenty of black muslims who feel this way.
and by the way, whites don’t outnumber blacks in the world, so ur not really a minority, so the theory that minorities can’t be racist (spike lee, who i like) is nonsense.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:04 am
now, with that being said, i wasn’t attacking u. i was responding to ur post.
u keep saying nobody will bring posters to task for baiting u. that’s not true and u know this. i am the one who challenged u to not talk race for a week and see what happened. and i told people to not to do it.
but u have a reputation. and people are irritated by ur rhetoric. so they have a habit of mocking u. that’s why i said give it a week. my bet is is if u just ignore any provocations, and just talk football, eventually people will leave the race stuff out of it. but believe me, there are a lot of people who don’t believe for a second that u are capable of not talking race.
i have ragged on u quite a bit, but i’m trying to take a different route with u. i’m staying neutral. i have my doubts but i hope u can stay strong.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:47 am
I wanna see Jon Gruden rip those coaches a new ass after he is done shreddin their gonads. Tell them like it is. Go in there so hard with a foot up thier rear end that they’ll have trouble goin #2 for weeks. After he’s done b1tch slappin DA and knapp and crew, go give the players a pep talk. Something to get them excited about. Something of a little hint he’s comin back to coach. If the Raiders beat the Saints, you’ll know thats why. Gruden is comin back. Only way players will be inspired to play. A real coach is comin back.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:50 am
I wanna see Gruden give DA and knapp the ‘ol fish eye. Something that will make them piss their pants. If knapp has wet pants, you’ll know thats what he did. DA will change his, but knapp will forget too.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:52 am
I’ll bet Mark has dug out the infamous overhead projector. Not so he can use it to fire DA and knapp for cause (cause their fake coaches) but so he can throw it at them next time they walk down the hall at HQ.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:54 am
If the Raiders beat the Saints on Sunday it will be because he rallied the players. They got a glimpse of hope and have a reason to play for other than just collecting a check. Gruden will inspire them to perform, especially after the players witness the ass grinding Gruden lays on the coaches.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:57 am
I hope Gruden brings a vice so he can put some coaches nuts into them and maybe squeeze out all the coach speak outta these guys. Our current staff of coaches gotta realize players don’t buy that horse crap.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:00 am
Maybe they players are getting a list of demands ready to give to Mark. First on the demand would be Gruden or Hue Jackson as the coach. Players did not like the way Hues’ firing went down, especially after what took his place. Reggies first move was not a good one. His second one was worse.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:01 am
When we go to Cincy, look for the players to rally around Hue. Players will have a great opportunity to send a messege to Mark and Reggie. And DA and his cohorts for that matter too.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:04 am
Where did DA go wrong? ZBS for starters. Maybe DA is just doin Reggies bidding, so Reggie blew it. Who knows. But what ever it is, aint workin. Shoulda improved on last years finish. See what kind of balls they got left up their sleeves to finish out the season.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:05 am
Gonna take a lot of nuts to finish the season. What a train wreck. If we win on Sunday, you’ll know why.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:09 am
It’s nut crackin time. Gett’er done. Crack dem nuts.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Saints is a win or go home game. A nut crackin game.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:10 am
See what kind of ass these coaches are really made of.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:13 am
Break time. See you fellows later.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:40 am
I feel like I’m reading The Shining right now
November 17th, 2012 at 2:40 am
lol
November 17th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:34 am
LMFAO at the yahoo FFL recommendation about Pierre Garcon being able to play…
“Recommendation: Garcon’s owners should keep in mind that this is based on the word of Mike Shanahan, and he’s a guy you could barely trust even if he were speaking under oath.”
November 17th, 2012 at 3:36 am
Charbagrobasticallillipitriciousticrabolobolagrabastic Smith Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:04 am
Where did DA go wrong? ZBS for starters. Maybe DA is just doin Reggies bidding, so Reggie blew it. Who knows. But what ever it is, aint workin. Shoulda improved on last years finish. See what kind of balls they got left up their sleeves to finish out the season.
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Good coaches fit the schemes to maximize on the players that they have and to create the best mismatches against their opponents.
Bad coaches try to fit the players to their scheme being “blind believers” in their one scheme being the best and most righteous.
What category do our coaches fit into?
November 17th, 2012 at 4:15 am
Just few weeks ago these coaches were being praised about their attention to detail more than previous staffs,but the truth is, lb / db and st coaches were being chased out by previous employers,even we blocked two punts from hoffman`s st unit last year.
DA was the last HC appointed lets not forget that, he never have enough time to really get the staff he wanted
November 17th, 2012 at 4:31 am
GG Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Dr_robert, sorry i dont mean you’re wrong. You’ve got a good football brain. You’re right in that wheeler is making plays. The issue i meant more is that total tackles itself is a bad not good thing. Speaks more about the defense as a unit.
A good defense isn’t on the field a lot. They stop the 3rd down conversions more often. So the total tackles would be lower for a good defense.
The ILBs and DL should be making the higher ratio of tackles in a game. Say 5 to 8 tackles tops being the highest tackle count for the game for your team, and by an ILB. With say 3 to 4 by a DT. Say 2 to 3 by OLBs and Safeties. In terms of run plays anyway.
Tackles accrued from pass plays is a different matter.
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ok, here’s the thing. when a player makes a tackle, he is the one that stopped the ballcarrier from going any further. if ur coach, u say “good job, he tackled him.” wheeler makes a lot of plays. he’s the one always around the ball, stopping guys from going any further. it’s a GOOD thing. it’s too bad others aren’t making more plays. it’s too bad out MLB sucks so bad. it’s too bad we don’t get penetration into the backfield or seal the edges. it’s too bad we get no rush and give up so many passes. but wheeler is doing his job well. when the play is at him or near him, he stops it from going any further. if we had 10 more guys on defense doing their jobs like him, we would have a great defense.
and burris is a rookie but he’s pretty good. effort counts and these guys give it. everyone in the nfl has talent. desire and the ability to go make plays is what separates guys.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:57 am
Everyone gets a free pass it seems but Al Davis.
Everyone said a new regime would prove that. Sure, it’s only been half a season. But it’s apparent that there wasn’t anything intrinsically wrong with the previous regime either. All it needed was better coaching, more talent, time to gel together, and continuity of scheme that suited all the time/effort/money invested in the 53 man roster.
While this regime, with all these empowered coaches doing things without interference, a new GM finally, and everything accountable, all this new defensive scheme that was not draconian, that supposedly would be top 5 from the get-go, has seen the same kinds of problems — penalties, blown assignments, badly prepared, outcoached, giving up big plays and record setting numbers to RBs, WRs, QBs, setting franchise records for most points scored against, still playing favorites, still creating media shills to protect themselves, still not truly accountable, worse even with resistance to change, same excuses, same press conference lip-service…we want to be great, we will bring championships to this organization, build a bully, etc.
There’s a number of players on defense and offense that are expendable. But it still comes down to talent and coaching ability. And just because you replace everything with another regime/system doesn’t mean you have a right combination.
Time must be given, 2-3 years. But there are certain facets already that stink and need immediate change. The last two weeks is just not acceptable. The free pass given to this staff is officially over after that. I am so angry with it. We all are. I swear if we cop another soulless defeat or a hammering this week, there MUST be drastic change in the coaching ranks immediately. There already should’ve been after last week. Purely because we want to believe things are better, hoping they’re better, we give this regime another free pass for another week. But this is it. This is the making or breaking of Reggie and/or Allen. If they don’t win is not even “okay”. But a competitive passionate gutsy intelligent performance is minimum. Otherwise, there must be an effort by the local media to pressure Mark/Reggie/Allen to make drastic changes.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:21 am
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 16th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Kate Longworth@KLongworthCSN
A source close to the #Raiders tells me #JonGruden will be on-hand Sunday at Coliseum to light #AlDavis Memorial Flame prior to #Saints Gm
Per kate longworth twitter.
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If that’s true, it’s probably not the best idea. Get the crowd chanting Gruden before the game even starts.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:33 am
There’s absolutely no way DA is fired after this season, no matter what. Reg (correctly) understands the need for stability, and building a winning team.
However, it is logical to assume that Knapp’s job is in serious jeopardy after the season is over.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:46 am
The only way I see DA getting fired is if they completely tank the rest of the season. It’s hard to justify bringing back a 3-13 or 4-12 coach after the team went 8-8 the last two years. I still believe in Allen. I hope he succeeds.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Agreed
November 17th, 2012 at 6:52 am
cuatrocientas cuarenta y uno
November 17th, 2012 at 6:59 am
There is a very good chance that this years team scores more points than last years team, so I see NO REASON Knapp should even be considered to be fired.
Tarver, however, is the vice versa, and should DEFINITELY be coaching for his job the rest of the season.
November 17th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Gruden is in town for the MNF game in SF, so that was a good call by probably Mark or Amy to get him to light the torch.
Raiders 34
Saints 31
November 17th, 2012 at 8:02 am
But this is it. This is the making or breaking of Reggie and/or Allen.
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LMAO
Ummm…..no it’s not.
The “making or breaking” of these two won’t come until about the mid-way point of 2014, and if we are in the playoff picture or not.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
#444
if we put up another soulless display, or get hammered again by 20-30 points, watch what happens and get back to me. I’m not saying Reggie/DA will be fired. I’m saying that they’ll need to immediately make structural changes (make) otherwise they’ll further lose the players, and the local and national media snowball will begin on them (break). They wont be kept given free passes.
Already Kawakami recently wrote a strong piece. And Tafur on twitter has started prodding.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
otherwise they’ll further lose the players
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Good, a way to weed out the quitters.
That is what this year is all about. Installing two complex systems, seeing who can sink or swin in it, and building on it for years to come.
Outside of maybe a ST coach, other than Tarver, I don’t think anyone’s job is on the line, yet.
Of course if we lose by 3 TD’s the next 7 weeks that will change, but that won’t happen. We will win another 3-4 games this season (KC, SD, Car, Clev).
November 17th, 2012 at 8:19 am
What have we lost, like 13 straight 10am East Coast games? I am sure half of them are of the 20+ point defeat variety.
Last week was just a reflection of that, going against one of the top 3 teams in football.
We have no talent to compare against those types of teams, and nobody in Silver and Black who has really won ANY of those types of games.
We have a bunch of talentless, heartless hacks on both sides of the ball, that’s why Kiffin, Cable, Hue and now DA go to these East Coast games and get throttled EVERY TIME.
Who of our 22 starters would start for Baltimore at the position they play for us? Anyone? Serioulsy who?
November 17th, 2012 at 8:21 am
We had guys starting like Gio, Willie Smith, Briesel, Burris, Bartell who would struggle to make the 53 for the Ravens.
I think Desmond Bryant might be the only guy who would start on the Ravens.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
You seem overly content dealing with franchise records of ineptitude being set against us. Keep giving the free passes, be patient, another humiliating loss no biggie, etc.
The NFL is more and more win-now driven. There is always some leeway/patience given around the league/media for a new structure/regime. But a team going thru like what the Raiders are now the last two weeks, or what Tampa Bay suffered last season (spiraling out of control, getting hammered constantly, soulless), the pressure grows and drastic changes are made (they didn’t clean out the roster, they cleaned out the entire coaching staff). And the results came this year. Another example of it’s not the talent, it’s the coaching.
Rams, Colts (like us all rookie GMs/HCs), Buccaneers (like us in many regards), 49ers, etc…these are the expectations now, the more incidences of them happening.
The same going to happen next season with the Browns and that pressing expectation around the league/media of a new regime finding success and progress sooner than later.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am
You seem overly content dealing with franchise records of ineptitude being set against us. Keep giving the free passes, be patient, another humiliating loss no biggie, etc.
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I have been doing it mostly for 25 years.
Point record mean nothing though, the NFL as a whole is seeing points scored by teams skyrocket over the last few years.
Every passing record, scoring record, points scored, points allowed, franchise records, etc, they are all being broken.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Rams, Colts (like us all rookie GMs/HCs), Buccaneers (like us in many regards), 49ers, etc…these are the expectations now, the more incidences of them happening.
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None of those teams had salary-cap hell and no draft picks.
Colts picked 4 PLAYERS before we picked our first one this last draft. Bucs have the lowest payroll in the sport, and had a top 5 pick. They threw all kinds of money around this offseason, and didn’t have to purge anyone from the roster.
Rams traded out of the RGIII sweepstakes and drafted an amazing FIVE GUYS before we picked Bergs, and than had their Sixth pick right after him.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
#447
It’s not an excuse the 10am east coast games. We traveled them before and won them. A series of bad coaches or coaching staffs, and room for improvement in player talent, is the cause of it.
But it’s not an excuse to get hammered every time. Bad preparation, game-planning, and coaching. Bad half-time adjustments. Bad relationships between coaches/players. Bad players or players mailing it in. All or any combination of the above.
Many teams around the league with less talent than us put up competitive efforts and even wins more frequently, against ‘elite’ teams.
The key point about what im saying is…if it’s three in a row we get blown apart, the train is off the tracks.
Remember, we got humiliated by the Buccaneers at home. Not just Ravens away. And we’re playing the Saints at home this third game.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
don’t tease me?! For real, the Prodigal Son is returning?! If Chucky is back on Sunday that’ll be the greatest thing I’ve heard/seen in a long time! Will definitely be busting out my Nike Pullover and Raider sun visor for Sunday’s game! Marcus Allen earlier in the season, now Chucky…..very classy Mark. Maybe Art Shell as well at some point? Though I suggest we’ll draw the line at Shannahan.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:46 am
#453
Mark seems to be putting in an effort to make amends, patch up any bad blood caused by Al. Art Shell would definitely be on the list. Gannon another.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#451 – totally agree:
Many teams around the league with less talent than us put up competitive efforts and even wins more frequently, against ‘elite’ teams.
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I wasn’t quite sure how we’d do this season, but I was hoping that at least if we lose, it’d be in a different way? Raider staples for losing in the new milenia: get shreaded in the run game, STUPID penalties at the WORST possible times. We’ll know when this franchise has turned the corner is when they play an early game in Pittsburgh or Baltimore and are able to go toe to toe with them and fly home with the win.
November 17th, 2012 at 8:54 am
But it’s not an excuse to get hammered every time.
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I agree, the West Coast 10am thing is greatly overstated. Last year WC teams had a winning record in such games, in spite of us going 0-3.
My point is that it stretches across multiple staffs. From Kiffin to Cable to Hue to DA. Last year we went into a Miami game against a last placed team, and were losing 34-0 going into the 4th Quarter. That was MORE embaressing than last week, IMO, since the Ravens very well could be playing in the Super Bowl later.
It is going to take more than one offseason with VERY LIMITED RESOURCES, to erase the stench of years past.
We have no depth, no top-shelf talent, and a bunch of middling players as starters.
If we played the Ravens in Baltimore, and switched coaching staffs, we would still lose by 20+ no problem.
November 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
We’ll know when this franchise has turned the corner is when they play an early game in Pittsburgh or Baltimore and are able to go toe to toe with them and fly home with the win.
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Bring back Bruce!!!!
November 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
The stench of years past happened.
But this new regime is creating its own stench too. They cleaned house, brought in their own structure, and it still stinks to date.
All expected/concluded that Al was the cause, and any new GM/HC with autonomy would shine a light validating that the Al days were the cause.
I will not argue the points I made in the last few posts. It’s totally inexcusable these hammerings and soulless games, no matter the timezone, or injuries we’re dealing with.
Reggie will be here another 2-3 years. DA is under contract 4 years I think. Reasonable expectation they’ll continue for 2-3 years. But just keep in mind if the constant embarrassment continues, hell will be paid.
FFS, all around the nation and globally, on forums, in offices, blogs, media analysis, etc, the Raiders are being ridiculed big time, laughed at. This is unacceptable.
November 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Want my 4 team parley Vegas?
November 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Sure….last week who did you lose on? Falcons?
November 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
FFS, all around the nation and globally, on forums, in offices, blogs, media analysis, etc, the Raiders are being ridiculed big time, laughed at. This is unacceptable.
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You think the laughing at has just begun or something?
It has been going on for 10 years. Even last years 8-8 was widely ridiculed for the ridiculous penalty situation.
November 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
You think the laughing at has just begun or something?
It has been going on for 10 years. Even last years 8-8 was widely ridiculed for the ridiculous penalty situation.
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I could handle being the laughing stock if McK had truly just blown up the team and started from scratch. Traded everyone worth anything besides Palmer… and dumped salary with anyone not tradable.
I wasn’t in favor of this before the season because I thought we were close to being a playoff team… if I had known we would have gotten out-coached in every game besides against Pitts… I’d rather just start over from scratch.
There would be an excuse for this mess.
November 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
I’m told scouts from ARI, CIN, DAL, DET, GB, HOU, JAX, MIN, NE, NO, NYJ, OAK, PIT, SEA & TEN will attend #UNC, #Virginia game tonight. #NFL
Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
I’m told that scouts from #Bucs, #Falcons, #Giants, #Jags, #Panthers, #Raiders & #Vikings will attend #USF, #Miami game on Sat. #CFB #NFL
Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
I’m told that scouts from the #49ers, #Bucs, #Raiders, #Ravens, #Saints & #Steelers will attend the #Oklahoma, #WVU game on Sat. #CFB #NFL
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The Raiders scouts will take a look at Geno Smith, Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey for the third time this season. OU LT Lane Johnson is also a name to watch.
November 17th, 2012 at 10:10 am
This will be a competitive game. The Raiders don’t usually get blown out 2 weeks in a row.
November 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Reflecting back on another first year coach in the late seventies that a bay area team wanted to run out of town on a rail. he had a tough first year as well but managed to turn things around a bit. … Oh, his name? Bill Walsh… Just chillax everyone. this ship will be righted..
November 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Stedman Bailey is a stud, would be ideal for us.
Not sure though if he is worth a top 15 pick, and he isn’t lasting into the 3rd round when we pick next.
Austin might though.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Any chance Reg trades up to get a QB in the 2013 draft? I’m not sure that he will, Raiders need too much help in other positions.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Any chance Reg trades up to get a QB in the 2013 draft? I’m not sure that he will, Raiders need too much help in other positions.
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Reggie seems like the kind of GM who would look for a QB in the 2nd or third round.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
QB is not our most pressing need. Ol and defense are more of a need. Ravens won it all with dilfer and carson is much better than him.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Any chance Reg trades up to get a QB in the 2013 draft? I’m not sure that he will, Raiders need too much help in other positions.
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Reggie is not the type to trade up in the 1st round. Very costly. As he said, he likes his picks. He’s all about value. Besides, QB is the one position playing well for us right now.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Last week I went 3 for 4,..lost Niners,..had them -11.5,..sheesh,… tomorrows 4 team parlay is as follows…
Dallas -7.5
Green Bay -3.5
Cinncinnati -2.5
SF -5.5 (Lock of the week)…. (Jason Campbell)
November 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Bears D isn’t going to give up much more than 10 or so points, though.
I can see the 49ers winning 10-7.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Happy Heidi Day.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
For all you walking clueless thinking the Raiders will draft a qb in the 1st round next year…nope,..Palmer is your QB for a minumum of another 4 years,..minimum. So there.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I wouldnt have taken the Niners until I saw Cutler was out,..now its a blowout.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
473.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
For all you walking clueless thinking the Raiders will draft a qb in the 1st round next year…nope,..Palmer is your QB for a minumum of another 4 years,..minimum. So there.
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That is fine with me, like I said earlier…….too many other positions to draft for.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Come on Bruins, I mean er uh Raiders…
November 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
SF -5.5 (Lock of the week)…. (Jason Campbell)
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Jason is having nightmares of his last start in SF. Ugly.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Lmao at the people who compare dennis Allen to bill walsh. Smh He’s no bill walsh, i see more lane kiffin/josh mcdaniels and romeo crennel when i look at this scrub.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I agree no need to draft a Qb in this years Rd1. Oline is a big priority. Running back might be a priority–hopefully we get a bruiser.
November 17th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
17-0 gentlemen!
November 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Heres some more truth,..and not to my liking as I want Jon back…but Dennis Allen can go 3-13 this year,..3-13 next year,..jobs still very safe. Im real.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Totally agree on the O-line. Coops is aging, Brisell has been horrible, Berg’s might not be any good and Barnes is just Barnes.
I’m thinking if Reg keeps his 1st round pick it will be defense, but I wouldn’t be suprised if he trades the 1st for a 2nd and 3rd or something.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
“QB is not our most pressing need. Ol and defense are more of a need. Ravens won it all with dilfer and carson is much better than him.”
Great Post!
November 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
otherwise they’ll further lose the players
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Good, a way to weed out the quitters.
That is what this year is all about. Installing two complex systems, seeing who can sink or swin in it, and building on it for years to come.
Outside of maybe a ST coach, other than Tarver, I don’t think anyone’s job is on the line, yet.
Of course if we lose by 3 TD’s the next 7 weeks that will change, but that won’t happen. We will win another 3-4 games this season (KC, SD, Car, Clev).
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Man you are a funny guy, what complex systems??
Are you really calling the WCO such a complex system that the players can’t adjust and assimlate. Jesus man wake up will ya’. All you have to do is watch the USC vs UCLA game today. Those college players in one season have taken a pro system and are kicking USC in their butts. Great coaches know how to get the best out of their players. Because they don’t ask them to to do things they know they aren’t great at. Look at the QB Hundley an unknown but they are turning him into a great QB using him correctly and so forth.
Great coaching is very noticable and so is bad coaching……period
November 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
otherwise they’ll further lose the players
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Good, a way to weed out the quitters.
That is what this year is all about. Installing two complex systems, seeing who can sink or swin in it, and building on it for years to come.
Outside of maybe a ST coach, other than Tarver, I don’t think anyone’s job is on the line, yet.
Of course if we lose by 3 TD’s the next 7 weeks that will change, but that won’t happen. We will win another 3-4 games this season (KC, SD, Car, Clev).
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People who know better know that where Bill Walsh was starting from isn’t even close to where these guys are starting from. Carson Palmer at DMC at RB nice WR’s. Decent defensive personnel. If you saw that crap Bill Walsh had to purge to compare thet two is laughable. I know I was THERE to see it.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Hey folks…
If there’s anything to be excited about this year, maybe it’s the fact that maybe the Raiders are seeing what they need to see to finally determine what deadwood to lose and what changes need to be made in terms of loading the roster with football players. Getting rid of workout warriors and combine freaks that don’t produce on the field.
Most of the best players in the history of the NFL weren’t the best physical specimens. They were tough men who were the best players.
Just look at Freddy B. sneaking a cigarette on the sidelines.
Find warriors. The guys who will run through a brick wall because nobody told them they couldn’t.
Those are the guys we need.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I used to go to practice at Santa Clara Uni. and they were Pathetic. I also went to many Raider practices and you could see a vast difference until Walsh was able to assemble a staff he wanted and get the talent he wanted. The GM was McVay who engineered that first run of the great players. Walsh didn’t even want Montana he was convinced to take by his QB coach.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Heres some more truth,..and not to my liking as I want Jon back…but Dennis Allen can go 3-13 this year,..3-13 next year,..jobs still very safe. Im real.
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This is true. Reggie’s being given a long leash by Mark, and is in turn giving that same leash to DA. Look at it this way: If DA fails, no way can he whine about not being given enough time or authority.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Is the site working yet?
November 17th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
UCLA is presently runnning the exqact same systen we are running now. Not only did DA coach under him but so did Knapp in ATL with Vick and Cable was the Oline coach. It’s the same system.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I don’t care about “need”, especially with a 32-year-old QB. I like Palmer and he has played very well this season, but if the Raider scouts look at a guy like Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and think “this guy can lead an NFL team for the next decade”, you can’t pass on that guy. All comes down to the evaluation process, and you can’t second guess your scouts because of any perceived “need”.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I don’t care about “need”, especially with a 32-year-old QB. I like Palmer and he has played very well this season, but if the Raider scouts look at a guy like Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and think “this guy can lead an NFL team for the next decade”, you can’t pass on that guy. All comes down to the evaluation process, and you can’t second guess your scouts because of any perceived “need”.
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The Raiders have so many holes to fill. I think they should take advantage of Palmer for a couple of years and try and build up the team at other positions. When I saw Geno Smith against K State, I was not impressed.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Who let Kool Kell on stage last night at the Oracle Arena?
November 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
I’m all for putting the coaches balls in a nut press until the scream uncle. Then they have to promise they’ll use their playbook in such a manner that it fits player personel and exploits other teams weaknesses. Not some stupid ego scheme. And if they don’t, then grind their nuts some more. And drop the coach speak to.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
DA needs to scratch his ass and figure out how to at least show signs of improvement, not a steady piss stream of regression. Lets go DA. Show your nuts.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
The Raiders have so many holes to fill. I think they should take advantage of Palmer for a couple of years and try and build up the team at other positions. When I saw Geno Smith against K State, I was not impressed.
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Geno’s performance certainly has dropped off, but it comes down to what the scouts see and whether or not the coaches think what he CAN do fits the direction they want to go.
I’m not advocating taking a QB specifically, just taking the best player available at any given position.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Players don’t want to be fed lies. DA needs to put his nuts on the table and tell it like it is.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
knapp gets a free pass cuz he aint got no nuts. DA is the head cheese so he’s the one that must please the nut grinder. Saints game will prove if DA and Reg have any balls up their sleeve or is it in fact DA and Reg are nutless to. Show your nuts.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
YA,
What # pick will Geno get taken?
Just wondering because I think the Raiders have the #17 for now.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 6:59 am
There is a very good chance that this years team scores more points than last years team, so I see NO REASON Knapp should even be considered to be fired.
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Jeeeeezus, JFB has lost his mind.
I’m beginning to think JFB actually stands for Just Freakin’ Blind.
You really see no reason ?
How about being dead last in rushing ?
Let me help you open your eyes…
Remember the Bed and Breakfast O ?
The most maddening part of that debacle was that even a casual observer of football realized the Raid O-Line couldn’t pass protect for more than a second to save their lives.
Yet the Raids insisted on having Andy Walter take 7 step drops and run pass patterns that took forever to develop.
The result was so predictable, that it was beyond belief that it continued the entire season.
No adjustments. No quick hits. Just the same crap, over and over. I’m surprised Walter lasted the season.
Classic case of a staff not making adjustments or putting the players in a position to possibly succeed.
2012 Krapp O is similar in the respect that it’s obvious the Raid O-line can’t run the ZBS and DMAC doesn’t do well with it – yet your boy Krapp refused to accept this or move away from the ZBS.
Result ? A once formidable running attack reduced to complete garbage.
There’s are reasons we’re dead last in rushing, and Krapp is at the top of the culprit list.
Heck, with Palmer having an off-season to get ready and with a healthy DMAC, we shouldn’t be struggling to match last years scoring output – we should have been blowing it away.
Can’t believe you can’t see this.
C’mon man.
UNR 31 NM 17
November 17th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
knapp nut sack swingers need to realize kapp aint got no nutz.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Forget a Qb Raiders would be crazy to pass up on DE/OLB Demantri Moore from Texas AM leads in sacks and tackles in SEC.. more then clowney n jones and mingo
November 17th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Classic case of a staff not making adjustments or putting the players in a position to possibly succeed.
2012 Krapp O is similar in the respect that it’s obvious the Raid O-line can’t run the ZBS and DMAC doesn’t do well with it – yet your boy Krapp refused to accept this or move away from the ZBS.
Result ? A once formidable running attack reduced to complete garbage.
There’s are reasons we’re dead last in rushing, and Krapp is at the top of the culprit list.
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Word!
November 17th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
JaMar Russ gettin the cannon ready for some NFL tryouts. No Bull. Nuts musta dropped.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
YA,
What # pick will Geno get taken?
Just wondering because I think the Raiders have the #17 for now.
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Hard to tell at this point but I see him going Top 10. Even flawed QBs get drafted high if teams see something they can develop. Ponder, Locker, Tannehill, etc..
November 17th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
This blog is messed up. Kinda like the Raider offense. Not nut sack bravado.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
People who know better know that where Bill Walsh was starting from isn’t even close to where these guys are starting from. Carson Palmer at DMC at RB nice WR’s. Decent defensive personnel. If you saw that crap Bill Walsh had to purge to compare thet two is laughable. I know I was THERE to see it.
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Exactly. No reason we shouldn’t at least match last year’s record with the current players.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Lane Kiffin isn’t a very good coach.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Com’on DA. Show yo nutz!
November 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Plenty of very intriguing players for the Raiders to consider with their first-round selection.
DT Lotulelei
DT Hankins
DT Williams
DT Richardson
DE Werner
DE Moore
LB Te’o
LB Mosley
OT Joekel
OT Matthews
OT Lewan
OG Cooper
OG Warmack
DE/OLB Jordan
DE/OLB Thomas
November 17th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Also OLB Greene.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Drunk Bills fan ejected from game Thursday found dead in a creek
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8641087/fan-found-dead-being-ejected-buffalo-bills-game
November 17th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
We need a leader on defense. Wheeler has defaulted to that leader but he’s not the right one. We need:
• Manti Te’o MLB Notre Dame 6-2 255
McCheese has turned out to be a bust & will be traded or cut at the end of this year. We need a franchise MLB who can become that leader. This guy can get the job done.
Some have us picking 15-17. Personally, I think we are going to be a lot higher than that. With our schedule and current OC, we can expect to be a top 5 pick. while that in itself is depressing, there are benefits to being a bad team – draft position. Drafting Te’o could have a long term significant benefit to this team.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
If Jabust gets hired and actually makes a comeback, I will……………..naw, it can’t happen. Maybe he’s broke and sober.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
If Jabust gets hired and actually makes a comeback, I will……………..naw, it can’t happen. Maybe he’s broke and sober.
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Relax. Nobody’s interested in JaPaycheck. His comments in the SI article pretty much nailed his NFL coffin shut.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
What comments?
November 17th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
I’d like to see Kevin Greene come in as a Defensive Assistant.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
JB,
Another MLB in the 1st round?
If Te’o is as good as advertised I’m all for it.
McClain is disappointing to say the least.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I guess Seymour should just shut it down for the season. He’s gone.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
TEO’ or a Pass rusher
Stanford Running back needs to be on this team too.
Tyrann mathieu too.. tell him to stop smoking.. use a 4th roudn on the necca. Randy Moss, Tim linecum they all smoke but he needs to chill.
Reggie gave Brandon underwood a shot and he was worse then Tyrann. We need playmakers!!!!
November 17th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Stanford Running back needs to be on this team too.
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I’m right there with you. That kid is going to be a productive pro.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
JB Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
What comments?
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The comments where he refused to take responsibility for anything, threw Cable under the bus, and openly mocked the idea of ever playing for the CFL as part of a comeback. He literally expected some NFL to just call him up and say “Come to our Training Camp.” Wrong.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
*some NFL team
November 17th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Robbie Rousse RB Fresno ST.
Small but fast, no ball security issues
No injury issues.
250 yards last week against Nevada.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Whats up Nation. lmao at a japorkus comeback. What a piece of garbage. I believe we will be drafting in the top 10 in the upcoming draft. This team has so many holes to fill. MLB, DE, DT, CB, FS, and OT come to mind. Will there be any good FAs at any of these spots available in the offseason? With all of these issues I still believe a solid corner should be at the top of any draft board if there are no good FAs to bring in. Don’t really follow cfb so I don’t know who the prospects are. Just so tired of watching this team attempt to play defense…I think Baltimore wouldve put up 55 even if we had 22 guys out there playing D.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
The favorite whipping boy here, Seymour, seems to be more appreciated by PFF:
…quote…
The surprisingly excellent linebacker Philip Wheeler had a day to forget last week. He made our ‘Had a Bad Day’ Team, but still has managed a solid +8.2 grade on the year, good for second on the defense behind Richard Seymour.
…end quote….
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/16/3tfo-saints-raiders-week-11/
November 17th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Jake Long (MIA) – OT
Ryan Clady (DEN) – OT
Branden Albert (KC) – OT
Sebastian Vollmer (NE) – OT
Andre Smith (CIN) – OT
Sam Baker (ATL) – OT
Can we lure any of these free agents to The Raiders?
November 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Doubt the Raiders will bring any big-name FAs in. Probably just depth guys. I like Frank Omiyale – can provide much-needed depth at everything but LT and C.
I also think the Raiders should get James Sanders in free agency to provide depth at FS. Borderline starter, but an upgrade if they want to keep Huff at CB.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
TheModeRaider Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Jake Long (MIA) – OT
Ryan Clady (DEN) – OT
Branden Albert (KC) – OT
Sebastian Vollmer (NE) – OT
Andre Smith (CIN) – OT
Sam Baker (ATL) – OT
Can we lure any of these free agents to The Raiders?
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I certainly hope so. Especially Jake Long, he would be a HUGE addition to our line. Can’t imagine the fish letting him go, though.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Jim Mora Jr. is turning UCLA into a national power…..that young frosh QB is no joke at 6′4″ 225 with that arm and athleticism they will be very tough to deal with.
Hi didn’t come worried that the cupboard was bar he jsut took what he had and added to it and kicked some butt. He made no excuses and that’s why they’re Pac12 South winners.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Do you have a link to this story about Russell’s comeback?
November 17th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
YA I think Huff is much better at corner than he ever was at safety. With the experience gained from this season and a full offseason at the position, he could be a solid #2 corner for us. I think he’s the best corner on the team right now.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Do you have a link to this story about Russell’s comeback?
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You mean the one from last October, or what whats-his-face was referring to earlier? I think that dude was talking out his rear end.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RM99,
Forgot the Knapp talk, how about the Lobo’s going 50 rushes, 2 passes (2 incompletions LOL) today?
And still hanging in the game without completing a pass?
November 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I think he’s the best corner on the team right now.
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Definitely, which surprised the hell out of me.
Would like to see the Raiders add to that position in the draft, but I have a feeling the front seven will be their priority for now. Cary Williams might be a nice budget FA pickup.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
JaMarcus Russell @JaCantonRussell 3h
Any1 want to run some routes? Gotta few tryouts next week and need to set the sights on the cannon.
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This is all I’ve seen.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
That Anthony Barr for UCLA is a complete IDENTICAL prospect to Jason Taylor.
He even looks like him on the field. Long neck sticking out, very angular. Elite pass-rusher who used to be an offensive player.
Wouldn’t mind someone like that coming off the edge for us next year.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Hundley is a very cerebal QB, like his future.
Arm-strength needs to improve, but he is 19 so it should. There were a few times UCLA WR’s seemed to be waiting for the ball to get there.
Lots of pro’s on that UCLA team though. Hundley, Franklin, Barr, I liked that Hester #21 as a future safety maybe, the McDonald kid, Shaq at WR, the Feiora kid at TE.
That team is absolutely loaded.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
JaMarcus Russell @JaCantonRussell 3h
Any1 want to run some routes? Gotta few tryouts next week and need to set the sights on the cannon.
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This is all I’ve seen.
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JaCanton??? lol gtfoh jamarcus! that’s the funniest sh!t I’ve ever read.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
JaMarcus Russell @JaCantonRussell 3h
Any1 want to run some routes? Gotta few tryouts next week and need to set the sights on the cannon.
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This is all I’ve seen.
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That’s nor Jamarcus. This his twitter.
https://twitter.com/RealJRock2
November 17th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Could we make a list of players that The Raiders should take a look at in the upcoming draft? Make a list, vote for our favorites and email it to them.
Maybe they’ll take a look at it?
Maybe they’ll delete it?
If we are right, we can send them the list again and say,”I told you so!”
November 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
According to Russell’s twitter feed, he has been taking classes at LSU.
BTW, Philip Rivers’ brother is in the game for LSU.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Definitely, which surprised the hell out of me.
Would like to see the Raiders add to that position in the draft, but I have a feeling the front seven will be their priority for now. Cary Williams might be a nice budget FA pickup.
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Isn’t Ike Taylor going to be a FA next year?
November 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
JaMarcus Russell @JaCantonRussell 3h
Any1 want to run some routes? Gotta few tryouts next week and need to set the sights on the cannon.
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This is all I’ve seen.
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JaCanton??? lol gtfoh jamarcus! that’s the funniest sh!t I’ve ever read.
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JaPaycheck’s real Twitter name is @RealJRock2 . This other one is BS.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Yikes, Stephen Rivers is uglier than his brother:
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=205087915
November 17th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Who’s got the list saved on willing to go to back and look at Rockstar’s mock draft wish list from this year?
My pick was Casey Hayward for GB, and he might win DROY.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Baking 101
November 17th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Phillips’ brother is a freshman. Maybe Reggie will draft him in a few years.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Reggie needs to find the next Von Miller.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Phillips who’s brother?
November 17th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
JaMarcus Russell @JaCantonRussell 3h
Any1 want to run some routes? Gotta few tryouts next week and need to set the sights on the cannon.
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This is all I’ve seen.
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JaCanton??? lol gtfoh jamarcus! that’s the funniest sh!t I’ve ever read.
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JaPaycheck’s real Twitter name is @RealJRock2 . This other one is BS.
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oh ok…JaCanton…that was just too much
November 17th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Phillips who’s brother?
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Phillip Rivers. LSU QB just got injured. Rivers in playing now.
November 17th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
<—- been a USC fan since about 75 and I loved todays game. Mora outcoached and outplayed Lana. Great game and I will probably never root for USC again. I still find it hard to believe Haden hired him.
Lana better dust off her resume and buy a new skirt for job hunting this winter
November 17th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Oh snap really? didnt realize Rivers bro was a qb
November 17th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I think HUE JACKSON would be perfect for the college football game.
Take over usc or cal.. Pac 12 would get interesting
November 17th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I think HUE JACKSON would be perfect for the college football game.
Take over usc or cal.. Pac 12 would get interesting
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I bet Hue is already trying to weasel his way into Kiffin’s job.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Plunk,I believe Lance was hired before Haden became AD.Haden decided to keep him.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Stephen Rivers is a freshman QB. He is 6′8.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Anyone have enough koolaid left to predict a Raider win tomorrow? I’m fresh out. Would love to see this team come out pissed off abt the Ravens game and play with some pride and intensity and make the Saints wish they had stayed home. But I’m not holding my breath.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Hue’s going to get a great job, especially if the Raiders keep swirling the toilet.
I see 4 wins tops this year with a QB playing at pro-bowl level… that’s almost impossible to achieve in today’s NFL.
Hue got us to 8-8 with hardly any QB play at all.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I can see Hue recruiting Compton in his brown pimp suit with that bright purple tie. Tenn and USC were dumb enough to hire Kiff so I imagine Hue can get a sweet gig
November 17th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
It’s hard to tell what the Raiders’ plan is going to be in free agency and the draft without knowing what the roster is going to look like at that point. Plenty of players will not be coming back.
In particular with the front seven. Are Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour going to be back? Will the Raiders cut McClain loose? Will they re-sign Shaughnessy, Wheeler and/or Bryant? What kind of linemen or linebackers are they looking for, and how does this effect how many of each they sign/keep?
November 17th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
10-4 lefty I recall that now
thanks.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Hue has at least had his players playing hard and over achieving.
Lane landed his plum jobs after the Raiders by saying, “If you hire me I will bring in my Dad too.”
He’s always been over his had as HC.
I can’t believe anyone ever hired him…
November 17th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
A HA found it!!!
315.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Who do you want the Raiders to draft at #95 ???
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Raider Dell: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
ToneMcFresh: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
MikieG: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
J-Raider: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Violent Hands: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Que: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Tjbwall: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
765Raiders: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
Raiderboi18: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
MEX_GHOST: Travis Lewis (Oklahoma)
Antispy3: Travis Lewis (Oklahoma)
Potato Head: Olivier Vernon (Miami)
Stinky Feet: Jack Crawford (Penn State)
C2E: Manny Abreu (Rutgers)
GG: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Hellsbells: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
J R Myers: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Raiders for life: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Oldschoolraider: David Molk (Michigan)
RAIDER WEAPON X: Amini Silatolu (Mid Western State)
SharkCatcher: Kevin Zeitler (Wisconsin)
ArtilleryShell: Senio Kelemete (Washington)
Raiderman99: Isaiah Pead (Cincinnati)
RaiderDebo: LaMichael James (Oregon)
1960RAIDER: Doug Martin (Boise State)
Just Win Baby: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
ELWAYs TEETH: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
Kvnbntly: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
Twocents: Greg Childs (Arkansas)
DT42: Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
November 17th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
It’s hard to tell what the Raiders’ plan is going to be in free agency and the draft without knowing what the roster is going to look like at that point. Plenty of players will not be coming back.
In particular with the front seven. Are Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour going to be back? Will the Raiders cut McClain loose? Will they re-sign Shaughnessy, Wheeler and/or Bryant? What kind of linemen or linebackers are they looking for, and how does this effect how many of each they sign/keep?
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Of all those names Wheeler is the only player I would want back. Bryant provides depth and TK…well…he’s good at times but is a complete bonehead. Wonder what the stats are on how many penalty yards he’s cost us in his career. And how many of those penalties were on 3rd down?
November 17th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
LOL at all the Josh Chapman, Alameda Ta’Amu people.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Here’s a hope… Lane takes over coaching for SD after Norv gets fired!!
November 17th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Chapman was finally activated. Looking forward to seeing what he does for a leaky Colts run defense. Kid’s a good player, but his understudy Jesse Williams might be the third DT off the board in April.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Gdog Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Here’s a hope… Lane takes over coaching for SD after Norv gets fired!!
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Hell yes and Japorkus makes his comeback in Kansas City.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Anyone have enough koolaid left to predict a Raider win tomorrow? I’m fresh out. Would love to see this team come out pissed off abt the Ravens game and play with some pride and intensity and make the Saints wish they had stayed home. But I’m not holding my breath.
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The only areas…
Saints Run D and Pass D are both ranked like 30 and 31.
The Saints rushing offense was also ranked in the 30s for a long time, but last few weeks have doubled their average yards per game and average yards per carry.
Ie…apparently we should employ a balanced offense, equal pass:run and should put up long drives. Whether we score TDs or FGs is another issue. Defensively, we’ll have to put them in 3rd and long as often as possible and just hope we get a few incompletions with some good coverage. Natural pressure is going to be the key as we’ll need all hands on deck to try to keep their receivers in check.
First time I’ve really tipped a hiding genuinely against the beloved Raiders. Just can’t see the Saints slipping up here with Wild Card berths on the line, and the Raiders coaching/player cracks starting to appear.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Lance was hired by USC to recruit…he did ok at that, not great,..now the brass realizes hes not only a prick but that he cant coach.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
1960RAIDER: Doug Martin (Boise State)
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Too bad that didn’t happen.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
GG Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
……and the Raiders coaching/player cracks starting to appear.
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Only in the imaginary minds of a bunch of haters on here is that happening.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
GG Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Anyone have enough koolaid left to predict a Raider win tomorrow? I’m fresh out. Would love to see this team come out pissed off abt the Ravens game and play with some pride and intensity and make the Saints wish they had stayed home. But I’m not holding my breath.
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The only areas…
Saints Run D and Pass D are both ranked like 30 and 31.
The Saints rushing offense was also ranked in the 30s for a long time, but last few weeks have doubled their average yards per game and average yards per carry.
Ie…apparently we should employ a balanced offense, equal pass:run and should put up long drives. Whether we score TDs or FGs is another issue. Defensively, we’ll have to put them in 3rd and long as often as possible and just hope we get a few incompletions with some good coverage. Natural pressure is going to be the key as we’ll need all hands on deck to try to keep their receivers in check.
First time I’ve really tipped a hiding genuinely against the beloved Raiders. Just can’t see the Saints slipping up here with Wild Card berths on the line, and the Raiders coaching/player cracks starting to appear.
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It’s not CP3 and our Offense that I’m worried about. It’s this D that couldnt keep a peewee team from throwing (or running) all over the field, especially the middle of the field. I think Drew Brees has been licking his chops all week to go up against this “defense”. With the lack of defensive stopping power coupled with Knapps offensive playcalling, we’re in for a long day. I hope the this team makes me eat my words tomorrow. Screw the draft picks I want to see as many wins as possible, something, anything to build on next season.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
See, that’s the thing about that list. Some people chose guys like Martin, Hayward, Crawford, Kendricks, etc. At least some of us chose players who would realistically be there at #95 overall.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
You know who I’d love to see in silver and black? Tavon Austin.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
GG Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
……and the Raiders coaching/player cracks starting to appear.
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Only in the imaginary minds of a bunch of haters on here is that happening.
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You’re kidding yourself if you think it hasn’t even started. It started weeks ago when the push for the PBS occurred. Veldheer speaking out in a media quote. McFadden/Davis story. The hidings last two weeks are another indication cracks are there. Teams don’t get hammered like that consistently in such a parity-driven league, especially this year with such a tight w-l record across the league.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Geno Smith has looked like crap against the top teams. Scratch him off my Raider’s wish list. I don’t want Barkley either.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
VanRaiderNation says:
It’s not CP3 and our Offense that I’m worried about. It’s this D that couldnt keep a peewee team from throwing (or running) all over the field, especially the middle of the field. I think Drew Brees has been licking his chops all week to go up against this “defense”. With the lack of defensive stopping power coupled with Knapps offensive playcalling, we’re in for a long day. I hope the this team makes me eat my words tomorrow. Screw the draft picks I want to see as many wins as possible, something, anything to build on next season.
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The redzone offense is a worry tho. We need to keep pace with the Saints scoring drives. Otherwise the blowout will happen quickly and the D will pack it in for the day, wont bust their guts for an O that can’t keep up and keep them in the game. Saints get up 14-0 in the 1st, we come back with 14-3, them 21-3, us 21-6, them 28-6, it will get out of hand quickly. Have to be TDs.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
good pick vegas. Mine went a little early in the third round but Josh Robinson is doing great
November 17th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Full name is Stephen Gunner Rivers … Parents are Steve and Joan Rivers … Brother of San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers. Nicknamed “Moon” as in Moon River by quarterback coach Steve Kragthorpe. His middle name is Gunner and he needs a nickname?
November 17th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Raidero,
How does it feel to know the 3rd string worthless raider qb cost the Ohio state university a title shot this season?
November 17th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
See, that’s the thing about that list. Some people chose guys like Martin, Hayward, Crawford, Kendricks, etc. At least some of us chose players who would realistically be there at #95 overall.
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Don’t forget Bruce Irvin.
I did think Hayward would last until our pick, or at least relatively close to it. Was off by about 30 picks though, lol.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Geno Smith is the 2nd most athletic QB playing in this game, and Landry Jones is not very athletic at all.
Landry is a New Mexican, and would be a solid 2nd round pick IMO. Not a super strong arm, but incredibly accurate.
Geno is falling off the wagon big time.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
I like Landry Jones much better than Geno Smith.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
VicTafur
Just saw this. #Raiders gave up a passing play of more than 25 yards to five different Ravens receivers last week. That’s not easy to do
November 17th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
GG Says:
The redzone offense is a worry tho. We need to keep pace with the Saints scoring drives. Otherwise the blowout will happen quickly and the D will pack it in for the day, wont bust their guts for an O that can’t keep up and keep them in the game. Saints get up 14-0 in the 1st, we come back with 14-3, them 21-3, us 21-6, them 28-6, it will get out of hand quickly. Have to be TDs.
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Exactly, have to find a way to get it going early. We all want to see a battle, not a half empty stadium going into halftime.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
VaRaiderNation Says: Anyone have enough koolaid left to predict a Raider win tomorrow? I’m fresh out. Would love to see this team come out pissed off abt the Ravens game and play with some pride and intensity and make the Saints wish they had stayed home. But I’m not holding my breath.=============================================
Could be mighty wet. Depends on who can hang on to the ball. Almost makes me miss the infield. Mud bowls are fun.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
GG-you hate so much you couldn’t see the forest for the trees.You also love to speculate and read things between the lines that don’t exist.If anyone is showing they aren’t buying into the present staff all they are doing is getting themselves a free ticket out of town.Reggie and Allen are looking for tough,hardnosed football players that love to play the game and if anyone shows they can’t take it-they are gone-because Reggie and Allen aren’t going anywhere regardless of what a bunch of haters on this blog want.And good riddance because those are the type of guys that have made this team LOSERS for the last 25 years.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Gdog Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Here’s a hope… Lane takes over coaching for SD after Norv gets fired!!
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Hell yes and Japorkus makes his comeback in Kansas City.
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Heck yes and toss in his daddy and that killer D scheme
November 17th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
#591
come back to me after this Saints game.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
ND!
November 17th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Dakota Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
ND!
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You caught a break with Barkley getting injured this week.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Lol you guys thought branch was good!
Smh
November 17th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
JFB,
Good of you to find that list.
lol, the guy I picked went undrafted.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
GG Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
VicTafur
Just saw this. #Raiders gave up a passing play of more than 25 yards to five different Ravens receivers last week. That’s not easy to do
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Hope DA got his sh*t together or Brees is gonna eat our secondarys’ nutz like candy. DA, show some nutz.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Well all I can say is Wisconsin can go to hell–the football team and the state.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I predict that Brees throws 3 INTs tomorrow.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
Could be mighty wet. Depends on who can hang on to the ball. Almost makes me miss the infield. Mud bowls are fun.
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I hope it’s pouring. That could be a big advantage for us.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Reggie gonna find a qb from the 3-5th round and he will be better then any top 10 qb next year. bet that
November 17th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
So many morons on here were glad to see Bush leave.
Yes, these fuk’n morons said, we’ll run McFadden down the middle and everthing will come up roses.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
601.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Reggie gonna find a qb from the 3-5th round and he will be better then any top 10 qb next year. bet that
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I’ll have what he’s having.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
So many morons on here were glad to see Bush leave.
Yes, these fuk’n morons said, we’ll run McFadden down the middle and everthing will come up roses.
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You think Bush would be doing any better with this line? I don’t. BTW, Bush is averaging 3.7 yards per carry this year.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I don’t think Reggie uses a pick on a qb in this draft. Too many other holes to fill, and Palmer has a couple more seasons left in him.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
If Goodsen got more carries, he would be having a stronger year than Bush.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Carson Palmer tied the franchise record last week with 15 consecutive 200+ yd games. Better believe he’s breaking that record tomorrow.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Damn EnglandRaider is a little fired up, lol
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Carson Palmer tied the franchise record last week with 15 consecutive 200+ yd games. Better believe he’s breaking that record tomorrow.
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That’s why I don’t put THAT MUCH stock in the 97 points, most in back-to-back weeks in Raider history stuff.
Records are being blown away each week. Rookie records, passing records, points for, points against, TE’s have the greatest TE years ever and on and on and on.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I predict that Brees throws 3 INTs tomorrow.
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Drew Brees, one of the best quarterbacks playing, can throw as many interceptions as he likes.
The bigger question is just how many will our secondary catch.
On the face of it: Drew Brees versus our secondary, Wow! That is not a good prospect.
On the other hand, we’ve got a damn good quarterback too.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Poor morons blaming McFadden for what is clearly the fault of the oline and oc.
Fuktard morons.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Bush left because he wanted to leave.He was offered a deal pretty much the same as the one he signed,according to Corkran.Why keep crying about him not being here?It was his choice.
November 17th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
With Bush on the Raiders, we would still be 3-6.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
So many morons on here were glad to see Bush leave.
Yes, these fuk’n morons said, we’ll run McFadden down the middle and everthing will come up roses.
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You think Bush would be doing any better with this line? I don’t. BTW, Bush is averaging 3.7 yards per carry this year.
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What’s that? How many games does McFadden even PLAY in?
McFadden was working fine as long as Bush was going down the middle and wearing out the line.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Hopefully the Chiefs draft Geno Smith and he turns out to be the next QB bust.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
We are probably going to see more Bush on Monday Night. Bears will be very conservative with Campbell at QB.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Too funny, someone thinks bush wore down the d for McFadden…didn’t bush usually get his carries in the late third, early fourth quarters at the beginning of last year? Lmao
November 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Bush gave the Raiders this middle finger.Why continue to give him love?
November 17th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
So many morons on here were glad to see Bush leave.
Yes, these fuk’n morons said, we’ll run McFadden down the middle and everthing will come up roses.
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You think Bush would be doing any better with this line? I don’t. BTW, Bush is averaging 3.7 yards per carry this year
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The offensive line Albert-or MR, or whatever the fuk your real name is-is a totally different subject.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
*his middle finger
November 17th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Soup gets hurt on MNF and doesn’t finish the game.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I don’t know if he is an NFL prospect or not, but I like the Stanford QB Nunes.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Carson Palmer tied the franchise record last week with 15 consecutive 200+ yd games. Better believe he’s breaking that record tomorrow.
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That’s why I don’t put THAT MUCH stock in the 97 points, most in back-to-back weeks in Raider history stuff.
Records are being blown away each week. Rookie records, passing records, points for, points against, TE’s have the greatest TE years ever and on and on and on.
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It’s a damn shame our QB is having a record year while the team struggles. I can only dream of what might have been if we had even a mediocre defense and running game. Stats aren’t everything and CP3 does make some mistakes. But with a half decent team and better coaching we could be contending. I get what you’re saying, but it’s hard not to cringe at the 97 points allowed stat.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Okay, k state needs to lose tonight….can rg3 suit up?
November 17th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Bush left because he wanted to leave.He was offered a deal pretty much the same as the one he signed,according to Corkran.
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Yup, and people blame The Reggie for it, as if he should have just continued to mortgage the future to make sure he got him.
Give guys fair contracts, some will take it, some won’t, but you will be better of for it in the long run.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
The offensive line Albert-or MR, or whatever the fuk your real name is-is a totally different subject.
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Then why does it matter if we have Bush or not. He would just be running up the middle for 2 yards every carry. He disappeared last year after he had to carry the load. He wore out at the end of the year. He wasn’t worth keeping.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dakota Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Too funny, someone thinks bush wore down the d for McFadden…didn’t bush usually get his carries in the late third, early fourth quarters at the beginning of last year? Lmao
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What do you mean someone you fuk’n diqhead living in Dakota!
My name is ENGLANDRAIDER!
November 17th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I get what you’re saying, but it’s hard not to cringe at the 97 points allowed stat.
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Cringe, absolutely. It was awful. Especially the last drive of the first half, that was beyond pitiful.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
But the stats aspect of last game, is just part of the times. This is the scoring-passing era.
I don’t think Cam Newton had the greatest rookie season ever, I think Dalton’s year was better, and I don’t think Brady Anderson had the best year ever for a leadoff hitter.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dakota Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Too funny, someone thinks bush wore down the d for McFadden…didn’t bush usually get his carries in the late third, early fourth quarters at the beginning of last year? Lmao
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What do you mean someone you fuk’n diqhead living in Dakota!
My name is ENGLANDRAIDER!
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Mr. England, go back to watching soccer.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
It’s true, Bush left because he wanted to.
There was nothing that McKenzie could do about it because Hue left the team with no money and no picks.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dakota Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Too funny, someone thinks bush wore down the d for McFadden…didn’t bush usually get his carries in the late third, early fourth quarters at the beginning of last year? Lmao
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What do you mean someone you fuk’n diqhead living in Dakota!
My name is ENGLANDRAIDER!
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Mr. England, go back to watching soccer.
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What are you dikhed, MRS Dakota?
November 17th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Dakota,
Baylor 7
K State 0
November 17th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Forget bush. We had ZERO money at the time and he was not worth that 3 yr 9 million dollar contract.
Goodson b4 injury was more then capable and had a btter YPC
BUSH 80 carries 297 yards 3.7 ypc 3 TDS
GOODSON 17 carries 111 yards 6.8 ypc 43 yard Longest run.
Not even half the carries as bush.. but if he did he would be more then enough
November 17th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Someone must have had is ugly crooked yellowed English teeth pulled today and is unhappy with his government issued dentures!
November 17th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
For an Englishman, your grammar is pretty piss poor. Are you a Cockney?
November 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Cringe, absolutely. It was awful. Especially the last drive of the first half, that was beyond pitiful.
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Our offense could’ve kept us in that game. But the defense and special teams had to piss in the koolaid. With all the issues this team has the D is the absolute worst.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
The offensive line Albert-or MR, or whatever the fuk your real name is-is a totally different subject.
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Then why does it matter if we have Bush or not. He would just be running up the middle for 2 yards every carry. He disappeared last year after he had to carry the load. He wore out at the end of the year. He wasn’t worth keeping.
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Actually his problem was that teams figured out he didn’t have the burst to be effective on the corners so all everyone did was stick 8 in the box.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Dakota Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Someone must have had is ugly crooked yellowed English teeth pulled today and is unhappy with his government issued dentures!
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LOL!
No, I still have my ugly yellowed teeth.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
If Allen does get fired, I wouldn’t mind seeing Stanford coach David Shaw hired. He was an assistant with the Raiders and is Willie Shaw’s son.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
For an Englishman, your grammar is pretty piss poor. Are you a Cockney?
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So let me get this straight MR/Albert/whatever the fuk your name is….
According to you, the level of your education is dependent upon where you come from?
November 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
VaRaiderNation Says: Carson Palmer tied the franchise record last week with 15 consecutive 200+ yd games. Better believe he’s breaking that record tomorrow.======
He11, Palmer would break 200 yd.s with a bad OC, no protection and unreliable receivers. Oh, wait…never mind.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Just so we’re clear, I’m not saying that Bush was a starting running back at all.
The guy was rarely in shape and got worse the longer the game and the season went on.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
If Allen does get fired, I wouldn’t mind seeing Stanford coach David Shaw hired. He was an assistant with the Raiders and is Willie Shaw’s son.
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I think we will see DA on the sidelines again next year, sure as hell hope some of these assistants take a walk, though. I don’t like DA’s lack of emotion, and I obviously don’t like losing. But as crazy as it may sound I’m still on the fence about him. If we did bring in someone else. I would hope for a big name, a proven coach (NOT Andy Reid). Really wanted Jeff Fisher last year and we see what he’s doing in St. Louis.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Allen is not going to get fired.
On the other hand, Shaw is one damn good coach.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Dakota
Darren pumpkinhead McFadden reminds me of that tinman on Oz who wanted a heart. If pumpkinhead had heart and average calves he could be an above average RB
November 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
For an Englishman, your grammar is pretty piss poor. Are you a Cockney?
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So let me get this straight MR/Albert/whatever the fuk your name is….
According to you, the level of your education is dependent upon where you come from?
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What? No, I just figured you were an uneducated Cockney like Eliza Doolittle.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
He11, Palmer would break 200 yd.s with a bad OC, no protection and unreliable receivers. Oh, wait…never mind.
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lol You know it
November 17th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
New post y’all.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
If Allen does get fired, I wouldn’t mind seeing Stanford coach David Shaw hired. He was an assistant with the Raiders and is Willie Shaw’s son.
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DA’s not going anywhere. Shaw could make an interesting candidate, though.
November 17th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
For an Englishman, your grammar is pretty piss poor. Are you a Cockney?
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So let me get this straight MR/Albert/whatever the fuk your name is….
According to you, the level of your education is dependent upon where you come from?
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What? No, I just figured you were an uneducated Cockney like Eliza Doolittle.
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You figured it out?
I doubt that you can figure out the difference between your mouth and your azzhole.
And I’m not cockney MR.
November 17th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
I like Landry Jones much better than Geno Smith. ==== OF COURSE…HE’S WHITE & SMART !!!…..SOMETHING THE BABOON WILL NEVER BE
November 17th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Allen is not going to get fired.
On the other hand, Shaw is one damn good coach. ===== SURE….BRING IN MORE MONKEY’S FOR THE RAIDER ZOO SO THEY CAN SUCK FOREVER
November 18th, 2012 at 7:49 am
We need hitters in the secondary not wr deal makers , MM is s hitter , receivers and te’s fear being hit, they are friendly with arm tackling dbs, we need more dbs like MM and the big corners that Seattle has.
November 18th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
GG Says: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Just Fire Baby Says: Raiders 34 Saints 31
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: Aints 45 Raiders 24
RaiderCrunch Says: Raiders 51 Saints 48