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2013 closer than you might think

There still are 43 days between now and the end of the calendar year. However, it’s getting closer and closer to 2013 for the Raiders on the heels of a third straight loss Sunday.
The Raiders 38-17 loss to the New Orleans Saints, combined with yet another Denver Broncos victory, leaves the Raiders four games behind in the AFC West and with faint hopes of turning around their fortunes.
“Right now, we’re shooting for 9-7,” Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer said. “You have got to win all the games left and see kind of where the chips fall at the end of the year. The AFC is still pretty wide open, for the most part.
“We need some things to bounce our way but we believe if we look at the schedule, we know some of those teams we’ve already played, but we’re going to come in and try to work and try to find a way to get to 9-7 and see what happens.”
Not sure about the AFC West being so wide open.
The Broncos play the 1-9 Kansas City Chiefs next Sunday, while the Raiders travel to Cincinnati for a game against the suddenly red-hot Bengals. A Broncos win that day, coupled with a Raiders loss, would just about rule out the division title for a 10th straight season.
So, what does it all mean? Well, coach Dennis Allen isn’t about to call this a rebuilding season, that much we know.
“No, I’m not into rebuilding years,” Allen said. “What we’ve got to do is we’ve got to continue to develop. We’ve got to continue to go to work and keep trying to get better every that. That’s all I know how to do.”
And don’t even mention the rebuild word to fullback Marcel Reece.
“Rebuild? There’s no such thing as a rebuild year,” Reece said. “This is a business. If you rebuild it, you get out. We’re going out there trying to win. We’re shooting to win out the rest of the season; that’s the bottom line.”
Try though they may, things just keep getting worse for the Raiders. They moved to 3-4 after back-to-back victories over the Jacksonville Jaguars and Chiefs in October.
Ever since, it’s been all downhill, what fullback Owen Schmitt calls a “snowball effect.” The Raiders lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 42-32, the Baltimore Ravens 55-20 and the Saints 38-17. That’s an average of 45 points allowed for those of you not mathematically inclined.
And that’s not exactly something that inspires confidence, especially in the most died-in-the-wool Raiders fans. Yet, this is the hand the Raiders are playing with for the final six weeks.
“It’s really the whole thing that we’ve got to get better at,” Allen said, when asked if there was a specific area that needs to be addressed.
Hard to argue there.

– Once again, a quick glance at the stat sheet would suggest that the Raiders played a much better game than they did.
The Raiders outgained the Saints 404-382, controlled the ball for 31 minutes, 24 seconds, converted a higher percentage of third-down plays into first downs and committed only four penalties to the Saints 11.
Yet, this game wasn’t anywhere near as close as the stats might indicate.
The Saints scored a touchdown on their first possession and upped the lead to 14-0 when free safety Malcolm Jenkins intercepted a Palmer pass for tight end Brandon Myers and returned it 55 yards for a touchdown.
Sure, the Raiders cut the lead to 14-7, but the Saints responded with a 90-yard drive that culminated with a 38-yard touchdown pass from Drew Brees to wide receiver Lance Moore on a third-and-13 play with 48 seconds left in the first half.
The Saints iced the game before the Raiders got a chance to respond — Oakland’s final drive of the first half doesn’t really count. The Saints returned the second-half kick 75 yards and then running back Mark Ingram rambled 27 yards on the first play from scrimmage for a 28-7 lead.

– Palmer passed for more than 300 yards once again. In fact, he has accomplished that feat five times this season.
However, the Raiders are 0-5 in those games. He also was sacked three times and intercepted twice. Not one of his better games, for sure.
“You’ve just got to continue to work,” Palmer said. “In a new offense, a first-year offense, this late in the season, we need to be making better strides than we were today. We had improved as we came into this game and wanted to take another step forward. We did some good things, but it was kind of a lateral step.”

– Myers entered this season without any touchdowns in his first three NFL seasons. He scored his third Sunday.
As was the case with many of the Raiders, Myers had reason not to be overly thrilled. He had a pass from Palmer in the end zone hit off his hands and bounce into the hands of strong safety Roman Harper.
Overall, Myers caught six passes for 55 yards and continued to add to his career-best figures in receptions and yards.

– The Raiders hit Brees a couple of times. However, Brees spent most of the day moving around in the pocket without much pressure, waiting for receivers to get open.
Sure enough, Brees found open receivers more times than not. He completed 20 of 27 passes for 219 yards and three touchdowns, with no interceptions and a 134.6 passer rating.
He improved to 7-0 in his past seven games against the Raiders, with 16 touchdowns, no interceptions and a passer rating north of 120.
“I’m all about efficiency,” Brees said. “The yards don’t matter, the number of completions doesn’t matter. I want to be efficient. I wnat to be a good decision-maker. I want to just make plays when I’m called upon to do that and take care of the football. Just do all of those little things.”
More times than not, that’s what Brees did, especially on crucial downs.
His first touchdown pass came on a great play-action fake that fooled rookie linebacker Miles Burris — Allen called it a rookie mistake — and ended with the ball in tight end Jimmy Graham’s hands in the end zone. No one was within two time zones of Graham.
Brees hit Moore on the post patter just before halftime, with cornerback Michael Huff and strong safety Mike Mitchell late getting there to make a play on the ball.
Brees’ final touchdown came on a well-thrown pass to Moore from 15 yards, with cornerback Ron Bartell a step or two late catching up to Moore after Moore got behind him.

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  • RockyMtnHigh

    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch

    883.bcz24 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    no

    palmers raider are abysmal and shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as jc’s team.

    I watched the game in blind amazement watching palmer do exactly what i knew he would do when we signed that albatross of a contract. He threw horrific turn overs and the team staggered to the finish line.
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    So the INT in the endzone was horrific on Palmers part? I mean throwing to a wide open tight end is horrific?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    No, but the pick-6 was. And he’s lucky a lot of DBs can’t catch because he could’ve had at least two more. The guy sucked yesterday. Wake up.
    ====================================================
    Nothing you say counts.
    Nothing.
    At all.
    You didn’t just love Russell, but you still love Russell.
    You, sir, are an idiot.
    And nothing you say counts.

  • mcfadden20.

    Marks hair Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    886. 8-8 is on par with our talent… obviously.. we have regressed.. ask mark

    we’re 2 outta 3 against bad O’s this year , we were like 6 outta 10 against bad O’s last year, so kinda on par with what we were doing last year, losing against good O’s , i don’t even know why you guys worried about the O , we may have regressed but until we get pass rushers in offseason we ain’t going any where, even if they bring back greatest show on turf for the O

  • Just Fire Baby

    And he’s lucky a lot of DBs can’t catch because he could’ve had at least two more.

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    Palmer’s the only QB lucky that DB’s can’t catch? Please, all DB’s can’t catch.

    In fact, RGIII’s only incomplete pass yesterday was a sure fire pick 6 that Rodgers-Cromartie dropped.

    Defensive players, not just DB’s, can’t catch, and drop INT’s every week in every game.

    Brees threw a ball right to Desmond Bryant. Hit him in all 10 fingers and both palms. Dropped.

  • bcz24

    No, but the pick-6 was. And he’s lucky a lot of DBs can’t catch because he could’ve had at least two more. The guy sucked yesterday. Wake up.
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    Wake up? I have no problem saying Palmer played a sh1t game yesterday.

    His worst is still better than JaMeatball’s best. Keep holding on to that though.

  • mcfadden20.

    bcz24 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    If Palmer was on the Bengals last year and this year they would be a contender. They actually have a defense now, and a marquee receiver who actually knows how the hell to run something other than a 9 route.

    Exactly

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I make 2 post and instant race baiting.===============================================

    Yes, Miss Tick, you have the gift.

  • The Beeech Dawg

    McFadin’, haha, calm down little nerd

    All that nervous sweating you’re doing right now isn’t going to solve a thing

    Although it is pretty funny, holla

    Speaking of my upcoming dope hip hop album Wrecks N Effect, I’m working on a hella phat joint about the Lake Show gettin’ hype on uptempo offense

    Gotta drop a mad duece then I’ll drop some steamy lyrics. Or maybe I’ll just hit the Olive Garden

    SHIZZLE 2 MY FIZZLE

  • mcfadden20.

    call MIstic , by his full name, its Misssupab1tch , otherwise he would be offended

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    RockyMtnHigh Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    This is Palmer’s Super Bowl this week. Hopefully the team rallies around him.
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    Dopey comment. Most players have a link to another team, somewhere. some more than one. You act like Palmer is God and the team bows in his presence. That, according to you, he should be rallied around? That it’s his SB? That all the team wants to make Palmer happy?
    Moron
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    They need some kind of motivation, don’t they? Who the f*ck are you anyways? ‘RockyMtnHigh’ must be one of Seymour Bush’s sock puppets.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Eagles started sucking after their longtime DCo Johnson retired or passed away . Not sure what happened to him

    That is true! Jim Johnson passed away! After, they have never been teh same on D!

    Yup, they were always a top 10 unit with him , which was 1 of the reasons they were always in the playoffs
    ———————

    SEE DUMMY COACHING MATTERS!!!! but i guess the eagles dont have talent.

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    coaching matters, but they can only do so much if they got no talent, just look at Lakers , do they even fire M Brown if they weren’t loaded , nope , they were underachieving , we’re def on par with talent level on this team
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    We have talent, werent we one of the leaders in sacks last year? we have the talent but not the coaching, you dont go from top 5 in sacks to not having a pass rush dam dude use your head, why do you think that is? you figured it out with the eagles so why not the Raiders?

  • RaiderDebo

    RockyMtnHigh Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch

    883.bcz24 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    no

    palmers raider are abysmal and shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as jc’s team.

    I watched the game in blind amazement watching palmer do exactly what i knew he would do when we signed that albatross of a contract. He threw horrific turn overs and the team staggered to the finish line.
    **************************
    So the INT in the endzone was horrific on Palmers part? I mean throwing to a wide open tight end is horrific?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    No, but the pick-6 was. And he’s lucky a lot of DBs can’t catch because he could’ve had at least two more. The guy sucked yesterday. Wake up.
    ====================================================
    Nothing you say counts.
    Nothing.
    At all.
    You didn’t just love Russell, but you still love Russell.
    You, sir, are an idiot.
    And nothing you say counts.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Lol! Who the fk are you??? And yes, still a huge JR fan and proud of it. So you can just keep sitting there babbling “nothing you say counts” until Mom comes home and gets dinner ready.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Mistic is not a true Raiders fan he is a black qb fan, like some people have just pointed out he never talks defense or any other position for that matter, he is what he is period.
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    Another poster jumps in and brings up race

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    Brahs, this is totally sweet

    Never seen Albert Puss go at it with Peemore Bust.

    This promises to be one of the greatest hair pulling contests of all time

    Should be better than an episode of The View
    ——-
    Beeech, I finally found out why you and Mistabrown are always clowning on this fool. He totally deserves your beat downs.
    ==================================================
    In other words, you failed miserably.

    Ya, we know.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Mistic’s posts are so ridiculous, it’s hard to tell if he is being serious or maybe his handle was hijacked. I guess it doesn’t matter. He’s a clown either way.

    I couldn’t agree more!

    Just ignore “it” that what I do.

  • beach

    Raider Riff is very accurate. I would keep Tommy Kelley and D. Moore and Streater, though. We need a veteran WR to come in, obviously. Seymour better retire.

  • beach

    Brandon Meyers will be fine, too. He cost us 7 yesterday, but be patient. He is a good TE. Fixing both lines and the cornerback situation comes first!

  • sirblitzalot

    IF Chuckie came back, the first thing he would do is cut CP. Why because his arm is too strong. All chuckie wants to do is win. So high percentage passes is the path to victory (boring football, though). CP has a knack for throwing interceptions at the most critical times. I can be in at the start, middle or end of the game but he does this WAY too frequent to be a winner! Goodby Palmer! 300 yards between the twenties is a misleading stat. Poof Pow Be Gone! Let’s move along! Charlie Brown will never be a champion.

  • sirblitzalot

    The point being. He will throw dink and dunk INTERCEPTIONS, so Chuckie can’t use A QB like Palmer!