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2013 closer than you might think

There still are 43 days between now and the end of the calendar year. However, it’s getting closer and closer to 2013 for the Raiders on the heels of a third straight loss Sunday.
The Raiders 38-17 loss to the New Orleans Saints, combined with yet another Denver Broncos victory, leaves the Raiders four games behind in the AFC West and with faint hopes of turning around their fortunes.
“Right now, we’re shooting for 9-7,” Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer said. “You have got to win all the games left and see kind of where the chips fall at the end of the year. The AFC is still pretty wide open, for the most part.
“We need some things to bounce our way but we believe if we look at the schedule, we know some of those teams we’ve already played, but we’re going to come in and try to work and try to find a way to get to 9-7 and see what happens.”
Not sure about the AFC West being so wide open.
The Broncos play the 1-9 Kansas City Chiefs next Sunday, while the Raiders travel to Cincinnati for a game against the suddenly red-hot Bengals. A Broncos win that day, coupled with a Raiders loss, would just about rule out the division title for a 10th straight season.
So, what does it all mean? Well, coach Dennis Allen isn’t about to call this a rebuilding season, that much we know.
“No, I’m not into rebuilding years,” Allen said. “What we’ve got to do is we’ve got to continue to develop. We’ve got to continue to go to work and keep trying to get better every that. That’s all I know how to do.”
And don’t even mention the rebuild word to fullback Marcel Reece.
“Rebuild? There’s no such thing as a rebuild year,” Reece said. “This is a business. If you rebuild it, you get out. We’re going out there trying to win. We’re shooting to win out the rest of the season; that’s the bottom line.”
Try though they may, things just keep getting worse for the Raiders. They moved to 3-4 after back-to-back victories over the Jacksonville Jaguars and Chiefs in October.
Ever since, it’s been all downhill, what fullback Owen Schmitt calls a “snowball effect.” The Raiders lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 42-32, the Baltimore Ravens 55-20 and the Saints 38-17. That’s an average of 45 points allowed for those of you not mathematically inclined.
And that’s not exactly something that inspires confidence, especially in the most died-in-the-wool Raiders fans. Yet, this is the hand the Raiders are playing with for the final six weeks.
“It’s really the whole thing that we’ve got to get better at,” Allen said, when asked if there was a specific area that needs to be addressed.
Hard to argue there.

– Once again, a quick glance at the stat sheet would suggest that the Raiders played a much better game than they did.
The Raiders outgained the Saints 404-382, controlled the ball for 31 minutes, 24 seconds, converted a higher percentage of third-down plays into first downs and committed only four penalties to the Saints 11.
Yet, this game wasn’t anywhere near as close as the stats might indicate.
The Saints scored a touchdown on their first possession and upped the lead to 14-0 when free safety Malcolm Jenkins intercepted a Palmer pass for tight end Brandon Myers and returned it 55 yards for a touchdown.
Sure, the Raiders cut the lead to 14-7, but the Saints responded with a 90-yard drive that culminated with a 38-yard touchdown pass from Drew Brees to wide receiver Lance Moore on a third-and-13 play with 48 seconds left in the first half.
The Saints iced the game before the Raiders got a chance to respond — Oakland’s final drive of the first half doesn’t really count. The Saints returned the second-half kick 75 yards and then running back Mark Ingram rambled 27 yards on the first play from scrimmage for a 28-7 lead.

– Palmer passed for more than 300 yards once again. In fact, he has accomplished that feat five times this season.
However, the Raiders are 0-5 in those games. He also was sacked three times and intercepted twice. Not one of his better games, for sure.
“You’ve just got to continue to work,” Palmer said. “In a new offense, a first-year offense, this late in the season, we need to be making better strides than we were today. We had improved as we came into this game and wanted to take another step forward. We did some good things, but it was kind of a lateral step.”

– Myers entered this season without any touchdowns in his first three NFL seasons. He scored his third Sunday.
As was the case with many of the Raiders, Myers had reason not to be overly thrilled. He had a pass from Palmer in the end zone hit off his hands and bounce into the hands of strong safety Roman Harper.
Overall, Myers caught six passes for 55 yards and continued to add to his career-best figures in receptions and yards.

– The Raiders hit Brees a couple of times. However, Brees spent most of the day moving around in the pocket without much pressure, waiting for receivers to get open.
Sure enough, Brees found open receivers more times than not. He completed 20 of 27 passes for 219 yards and three touchdowns, with no interceptions and a 134.6 passer rating.
He improved to 7-0 in his past seven games against the Raiders, with 16 touchdowns, no interceptions and a passer rating north of 120.
“I’m all about efficiency,” Brees said. “The yards don’t matter, the number of completions doesn’t matter. I want to be efficient. I wnat to be a good decision-maker. I want to just make plays when I’m called upon to do that and take care of the football. Just do all of those little things.”
More times than not, that’s what Brees did, especially on crucial downs.
His first touchdown pass came on a great play-action fake that fooled rookie linebacker Miles Burris — Allen called it a rookie mistake — and ended with the ball in tight end Jimmy Graham’s hands in the end zone. No one was within two time zones of Graham.
Brees hit Moore on the post patter just before halftime, with cornerback Michael Huff and strong safety Mike Mitchell late getting there to make a play on the ball.
Brees’ final touchdown came on a well-thrown pass to Moore from 15 yards, with cornerback Ron Bartell a step or two late catching up to Moore after Moore got behind him.

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  • Just Fire Baby

    The only thing getting sharpened is the opponents TD dances in our endzone!

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    I thought Moore’s Gangnam dance was very half-azzed.

  • bcz24

    I hope for Pryor’s sake that they don’t decide to start him. He will have no NFL career at all if plays anything close to the preseason (minus the 4 plays against detroits practice squad)

  • RaiderfanNY

    I no longer know what to say about this hapless team except for one thing:

    Watching Reese carry the ball the last two games confirms that McFadden can’t be the guy. I know McFadden doesn’t like zone blocking and the line has been terrible, but there is no excuse for him to run into the first available tackler every play for the same 2 yards. Reese is playing behind the same line, in the same scheme, but hits the holes hard, breaks arm tackles and looks for space.

    McFadden has all the ability in the world, but if things aren’t going his way, he folds. Time to trade him for whatever pick we can get and go with some mid-rounder who wants to run to daylight.

    As for the rest of the team, I’m out of ideas…

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    “Iron sharpen iron”
    Fred Flinstone was a character who I didn’t mind.

  • hwnrdr

    Our 7th round pick this year just got signed to the Eagles!

  • The Beeech Dawg

    YO YO YO BROHAMS & BROSLAMS

    The Beeech Dawg is back and full effect, word

    Yo, the game straight up BLEW CHUNKS yesterday, but at least the mighty Bruins mopped the Rose Bowl with Barkley’s jersey

    Got hella wasted, ended up humping a bag of marshmallows then almost burned my pubes off

    Me and the Krew ordered 10 large pies from Papa Johns and got our grub on for the Lake Show, you know KOBE BEAN is n the hizzy

    Triple Double style, gettin’ ready to hang #17

    That’s just how them BIG DAWGS BARK, woof woof meow

    WRECKS N FULL EFFECT

  • Just Fire Baby

    After watching newton and Griffin this weekend I cant help but wonder what we can do with all of our speed weapons and Pryor.

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    I watched those games prior to ours as well.

    Nothing like spending a day watching last placed football!!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    Offseason priority should be fix the D first

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    1. fix D
    2. Fix d
    3. Fix d
    4. #1 Wr
    5. OL

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Who cares about QB situation , the bigger problems lie on the D side , yes trade C P ,draft which ever black QB that will make certain posters happy
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    I make 2 post and instant race baiting.
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    Mistic, your brand is tainted. Your going to have to change your handle if you want to remove associations with your posts.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    can carcass palmer some how salvage some dignity with a win at the bungles bowl 2012?

    He has played in a malaise like a weasel full on road kill. Turn over after mind blowing turnover have sunk his reputation like a smelly turd goes down a toilet. The losses pile up and he is powerless to stem the avalanche, he is helplessly buried.

    This is some of the worst qb play i have seen since the grad jamarcuss days. The palmer worshippers have tucked tail. They are waiving white flags and buckle under the weight of their foolish prognostications.

  • RaiderDebo

    Carl Weathers Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    Penalties are down, staff has unearthed the secret apparently.

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    Tommy Kelly has stopped jumping off sides, thus the zero sacks

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    You may be on to something. I would hate to think that we have blunted our aggressiveness on D. Might be the only answer for this year’s D being worse than last year’s (didn’t think this was possible). Greg Schiano gets it.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-schiano-love-see-bucs-rack-penalties-184855498–nfl.html

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic, you must be on cloud 9 right now. Palmer played bad, the Radiers lost, and you get to watch Campbell vs Kaepernick tonight.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Who cares about QB situation , the bigger problems lie on the D side , yes trade C P ,draft which ever black QB that will make certain posters happy
    ==========

    I make 2 post and instant race baiting.
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    Mistic, your brand is tainted. Your going to have to change your handle if you want to remove associations with your posts.
    ============

    Instead of race baiting being condemned it is confirmed by other posters.

    Both of you now race baiting

    Do you have a football take?

  • mcfadden20.

    Ddwight Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:46 am
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    Enough of Hue ,just go and check the freaking schedule ,only 2 wins came against top 15 Os … In 1 SDs entire Oline was injured , another was after AD died ,enough of hue BS, we lack talent, it will only be fixed if we can spend money to bring in some talent and through draft picks
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    You still need a coach, to coach talent…this DA thing is going nowhere, believe me!!! You still have to know what OC & DC coordinators to bring in…better start with this romper-room coaching staff.

    /——

    I don’t know about DC Tarver, he’s pretty much have his hands tied with no pass rushers in a passing league, if he blitz he gets killed 4 man rush he gets killed,..

    I wouldn’t mind DA bringing in better OC and special teams coach

  • Just Fire Baby

    He has played in a malaise like a weasel full on road kill. Turn over after mind blowing turnover have sunk his reputation like a smelly turd goes down a toilet. The losses pile up and he is powerless to stem the avalanche, he is helplessly buried.

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    Who brought up Mike Vick?

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Not to take anything away from Reece who is one of my favorite players but I don’t think N.O. gave him too much credit before the game and Reece kind of caught them off guard. In the 2nd half it wasn’t really neccasary for the Saints D to make any adjustments seeing as they took the opening kickoff to the house and Ingram had that td early in the 3rd quarter. Basically they didn’t really care what Marcel did as long the Raiders didn’t score.

    Reece still is a bright spot on this sorry excuse for a team. I will always love the Raiders but I’m really struggling to buy what our coach and his “staff” are selling.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    at least we know what that “it” factor was that da had….bullsheit….

  • Just Fire Baby

    DA should fire Tarver, call the defensive plays himself, and make a bold move and inactive some of these clowns on gameday.

    Be bold!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    can carcass palmer some how salvage some dignity with a win at the bungles bowl 2012?

    He has played in a malaise like a weasel full on road kill. Turn over after mind blowing turnover have sunk his reputation like a smelly turd goes down a toilet. The losses pile up and he is powerless to stem the avalanche, he is helplessly buried.

    This is some of the worst qb play i have seen since the grad jamarcuss days. The palmer worshippers have tucked tail. They are waiving white flags and buckle under the weight of their foolish prognostications.

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    Look man it’s freaking getting old with stupid posts , he might throw too many interceptions for your liking , but honestly there isn’t a QB better than him on our team or on the street or in the draft next year , keep wasting your time with Cp 3 hate, he will be here next year

  • DutchRaider77

    @Mistic1

    So if you are GM is DHB worth a $10M dollar cap hit next year?

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/darius-heyward-bey/

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    *N.O. didn’t give Reece much credit

  • mcfadden20.

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:53 am
    He has played in a malaise like a weasel full on road kill. Turn over after mind blowing turnover have sunk his reputation like a smelly turd goes down a toilet. The losses pile up and he is powerless to stem the avalanche, he is helplessly buried.

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    Who brought up Mike Vick?

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    No he’s talking about cam Newton

  • Just Fire Baby

    People are way to quick to rush to judgement on here, to claim a blog victory.

    If you turn back the clocks 18 months, you have people boasting about Al snookering the Pats for Seymour.

    DA may suck, may be great. But neither can be decided now.

    And guess what? If he does really suck, things will actually be a lot worse than this soon enough.

  • bcz24

    755.hwnrdr Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Our 7th round pick this year just got signed to the Eagles!
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    Quite possibly the only team in the NFL WORSE than us right now.

  • mcfadden20.

    DHB is a good soldier , he will reconstruct his contract

  • Al_is_theraiders

    da svcks isnt great….plain to see

  • Just Fire Baby

    Eagles have quit on their QB and HC.

    I still think guys like Reece and DHB play hard for Palmer. Nobody is playing hard for Vick.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Instead of race baiting being condemned it is confirmed by other posters.

    Both of you now race baiting

    Do you have a football take?
    ——
    What do you call your ‘golden haired hero’ nonsense?

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:57 am
    People are way to quick to rush to judgement on here, to claim a blog victory.

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    Right, and you’ve never,ever done that. Laughable!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    End the Dennis Allen experiment now.
    Even if the Raiders improve next year he’s not the guy for this team or any team.

  • mcfadden20.

    Vick have ruined whole eagles team , they are good enough to win with that roster , yet some guys want Andy Reid in here? He kept with that turd , piling up losses after losses

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Nobody is playing hard for Vick.

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    Really, be specific.

  • mcfadden20.

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    da svcks isnt great….plain to see

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    Okay Herrera

  • Just Fire Baby

    Right, and you’ve never,ever done that. Laughable!

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    I wait until it is official.

    Like Jamarcus Russell being waived. Waited until the bitter end before I rubbed your nose in that dog crap (you ever get it off BTW? no, well keep scrubbing).

  • Al_is_theraiders

    reggie iskeeping with turd allen, allen is keeping with turd krapp…mctroll20 is keeping with all those turds…

  • mcfadden20.

    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Nobody is playing hard for Vick.

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    Really, be specific.

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    Yeah they don’t give a eff for him anymore , single handedly ruined a SB contender 2 years in a row

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Ok, I have an idea, let’s trade with Philly our whole roster and coach for there’s. I think the different uniforms will change everything lol.

    Hmmmmmm…actually I wouldn’t mind a lot of Eagles and Andy Reid in silver and black next year!

  • nycraider

    if Hue doesnt get a HC job next year what does that say?

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Priest and Debo still have hopes that Russell will come back and save the Raiders.

  • mcfadden20.

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    reggie iskeeping with turd allen, allen is keeping with turd krapp…mctroll20 is keeping with all those turds…

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    Ok Herrera

  • Just Fire Baby

    Really, be specific.

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    3-7, getting worse every week, McCoy mailing in carries, Celek dropping passes, O-lineman playing their worst football ever, Desean Jackson alligator arming passes over the middle, defense folding after playing lights out to start the year.

  • DutchRaider77

    “This is some of the worst qb play i have seen since the grad jamarcuss days.”

    __________________________________________________

    With throwing words out like that, you could be jeopardizing your bro-Mance with RaiderDebo!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    i wish i was him at least he scared kawasaki…

  • mcfadden20.

    Andy Reid on the Raiders? He can’t lead more talented team to playoffs, you want him here ? Smh

  • Al_is_theraiders

    keep pn mctrolling20 we need more excuses for reggie

  • DJ Johnny

    Andy Reid?

    He SUCKS.

    With all that talent he should’ve won 3 or 4 SB’s.

    His only fault was sticking with a QB who couldn’t win the big game in McNabb.

    Then Vick?

    LMFAO.

  • LA to TheBay

    1. MM34 is putrid. Where’s the “Missile” lovers? McClain is the only guy on some 25 running plays to actually tackle the guy in the backfield, and nobody can take a deep breathe and say, “he still may suck, but he looks marginally better of late”. Nope, never will happen.
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    JFB on a roll this season. Forget if it makes no sense.

    Rolando is garbage. You watch the games or just read the stats?

    Ro had two tackles for loss early on. Cool, maybe he’s turning it around. Nope. Went on to stink it up over and over. I even saw him removed from base 4-3 later in the game, which ended up being a pass.

    It’s like we have no MLB on most of these plays. Go back and watch us getting gashed up the middle over and over this year. Ro cannot shed a block. Only time he makes a tackle is when unblocked or ‘chasing’ somebody from behind.

    Mike Mitchell was out there rallying the troops when most everybody had already given up. He is defficient in pass coverage, but he’s not a shell safety, his strength is in the box, wolverine spot or something like that.

    Also, those of you sick of Kelly and co. notice DA had in Bilikudi and Crawford most of the 4th quarter? He’s seeing what he has around for next year. We were in that mode already for yesterday’s game.

    What we will see more of this year is CP put up 300+ in garbage time. This is what I’m watching the games for now. To see if this garbage time will pay off with our passing game next year and if CP can coach up Moore on the field, cause his football IQ is pretty low. Same with Streater.

    Those two have a chance to be special.

    Also, counting down the days til we cut Ro and fire the coaching staff, exception may be DA.

    Knapp is garbage. Forget PPG. Stupid stat when taken out of context. The offense is VISIBLY worse because of a lack of creativity and inability to sustain drives, particularly to open game and open 3rd Q, where coaching has the BIGGEST influence on the series.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    “no talent” waaah keep trying mctroll20

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Andy Reid would have won a Super Bowl if had Carson Palmer on those Eagle teams.

  • mcfadden20.

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    i wish i was him at least he scared kawasaki…

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    Oh then you must b one of the reporters who got access with Al’s team but getting kicked out now