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2013 closer than you might think

There still are 43 days between now and the end of the calendar year. However, it’s getting closer and closer to 2013 for the Raiders on the heels of a third straight loss Sunday.
The Raiders 38-17 loss to the New Orleans Saints, combined with yet another Denver Broncos victory, leaves the Raiders four games behind in the AFC West and with faint hopes of turning around their fortunes.
“Right now, we’re shooting for 9-7,” Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer said. “You have got to win all the games left and see kind of where the chips fall at the end of the year. The AFC is still pretty wide open, for the most part.
“We need some things to bounce our way but we believe if we look at the schedule, we know some of those teams we’ve already played, but we’re going to come in and try to work and try to find a way to get to 9-7 and see what happens.”
Not sure about the AFC West being so wide open.
The Broncos play the 1-9 Kansas City Chiefs next Sunday, while the Raiders travel to Cincinnati for a game against the suddenly red-hot Bengals. A Broncos win that day, coupled with a Raiders loss, would just about rule out the division title for a 10th straight season.
So, what does it all mean? Well, coach Dennis Allen isn’t about to call this a rebuilding season, that much we know.
“No, I’m not into rebuilding years,” Allen said. “What we’ve got to do is we’ve got to continue to develop. We’ve got to continue to go to work and keep trying to get better every that. That’s all I know how to do.”
And don’t even mention the rebuild word to fullback Marcel Reece.
“Rebuild? There’s no such thing as a rebuild year,” Reece said. “This is a business. If you rebuild it, you get out. We’re going out there trying to win. We’re shooting to win out the rest of the season; that’s the bottom line.”
Try though they may, things just keep getting worse for the Raiders. They moved to 3-4 after back-to-back victories over the Jacksonville Jaguars and Chiefs in October.
Ever since, it’s been all downhill, what fullback Owen Schmitt calls a “snowball effect.” The Raiders lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 42-32, the Baltimore Ravens 55-20 and the Saints 38-17. That’s an average of 45 points allowed for those of you not mathematically inclined.
And that’s not exactly something that inspires confidence, especially in the most died-in-the-wool Raiders fans. Yet, this is the hand the Raiders are playing with for the final six weeks.
“It’s really the whole thing that we’ve got to get better at,” Allen said, when asked if there was a specific area that needs to be addressed.
Hard to argue there.

– Once again, a quick glance at the stat sheet would suggest that the Raiders played a much better game than they did.
The Raiders outgained the Saints 404-382, controlled the ball for 31 minutes, 24 seconds, converted a higher percentage of third-down plays into first downs and committed only four penalties to the Saints 11.
Yet, this game wasn’t anywhere near as close as the stats might indicate.
The Saints scored a touchdown on their first possession and upped the lead to 14-0 when free safety Malcolm Jenkins intercepted a Palmer pass for tight end Brandon Myers and returned it 55 yards for a touchdown.
Sure, the Raiders cut the lead to 14-7, but the Saints responded with a 90-yard drive that culminated with a 38-yard touchdown pass from Drew Brees to wide receiver Lance Moore on a third-and-13 play with 48 seconds left in the first half.
The Saints iced the game before the Raiders got a chance to respond — Oakland’s final drive of the first half doesn’t really count. The Saints returned the second-half kick 75 yards and then running back Mark Ingram rambled 27 yards on the first play from scrimmage for a 28-7 lead.

– Palmer passed for more than 300 yards once again. In fact, he has accomplished that feat five times this season.
However, the Raiders are 0-5 in those games. He also was sacked three times and intercepted twice. Not one of his better games, for sure.
“You’ve just got to continue to work,” Palmer said. “In a new offense, a first-year offense, this late in the season, we need to be making better strides than we were today. We had improved as we came into this game and wanted to take another step forward. We did some good things, but it was kind of a lateral step.”

– Myers entered this season without any touchdowns in his first three NFL seasons. He scored his third Sunday.
As was the case with many of the Raiders, Myers had reason not to be overly thrilled. He had a pass from Palmer in the end zone hit off his hands and bounce into the hands of strong safety Roman Harper.
Overall, Myers caught six passes for 55 yards and continued to add to his career-best figures in receptions and yards.

– The Raiders hit Brees a couple of times. However, Brees spent most of the day moving around in the pocket without much pressure, waiting for receivers to get open.
Sure enough, Brees found open receivers more times than not. He completed 20 of 27 passes for 219 yards and three touchdowns, with no interceptions and a 134.6 passer rating.
He improved to 7-0 in his past seven games against the Raiders, with 16 touchdowns, no interceptions and a passer rating north of 120.
“I’m all about efficiency,” Brees said. “The yards don’t matter, the number of completions doesn’t matter. I want to be efficient. I wnat to be a good decision-maker. I want to just make plays when I’m called upon to do that and take care of the football. Just do all of those little things.”
More times than not, that’s what Brees did, especially on crucial downs.
His first touchdown pass came on a great play-action fake that fooled rookie linebacker Miles Burris — Allen called it a rookie mistake — and ended with the ball in tight end Jimmy Graham’s hands in the end zone. No one was within two time zones of Graham.
Brees hit Moore on the post patter just before halftime, with cornerback Michael Huff and strong safety Mike Mitchell late getting there to make a play on the ball.
Brees’ final touchdown came on a well-thrown pass to Moore from 15 yards, with cornerback Ron Bartell a step or two late catching up to Moore after Moore got behind him.

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  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    It’s pretty clear that Mistic has become the blog’s biggest troll. He has surpassed MR.
    ====================================

    Well said. MR.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Mistic.

    Football take on the defense?

    Ever?
    —–
    Mistic’s expertise is the QB position. He’s too busy breaking down tape of Div II games to worry about the defense.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Carl Weathers Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Andy Reid needs to step away from football for a few years. The guys son just comitted suicide ffs. Be with your family dude…
    ——————
    It’s probaly a coping mechanism. (football)

  • JLofty

    After a 3rd trashing in a row, I am in a foul mood. But I was correct on Marcel Reece becoming THE man on offense after McFragile and Gooson went down. Guy scored a bunch for me yesterday on FF.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    It’s pretty clear that Mistic has become the blog’s biggest troll. He has surpassed MR.
    ====================================

    Well said. MR.
    —–
    What’s up Seymour Puss? Are your feelings still hurt about what I said the other day?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    The bungles bowl 2012 now becomes the biggest game of carsons life!! This game is what separates the macaroni form the spaghetti, and Carson can begin to carve out a little satisfaction form a failed career.
    ======================================

    I don’t know if leading the National Football League in TD’s and completion percentage, and being a two time Pro Bowl player would constitute a “failed” career. Jamarcus Russell had a “failed” career. Cam Netwon is well on his way to a “failed” career.

  • Marks hair

    Andy Reid is garbage without Jimmy Johnson on defense

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    It’s pretty clear that Mistic has become the blog’s biggest troll. He has surpassed MR.
    ====================================

    Well said. MR.
    —–
    What’s up Seymour Puss? Are your feelings still hurt about what I said the other day?
    ========================================

    No no no no. IN fact you were the one that was on this blog all night and all the next day sobbing. Sorry I hurt your feelings so badly. But, hey, the truth hurts.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic’s posts are so ridiculous, it’s hard to tell if he is being serious or maybe his handle was hijacked. I guess it doesn’t matter. He’s a clown either way.

  • Carl Weathers

    Look on the bright side guys, next years team will probably be without half the roster as we know it now!

    Between FA’s and cuts due to crazy salaries /poor performance.

    Here’s the FA’s:

    Phillip Adams CB
    Khalif Barnes T
    Ron Bartell CB
    Desmond Bryant DT
    Cooper Carlisle G
    Andre Carter DE
    Matt Giordano S
    Mike Goodson RB
    Derek Hagan WR
    Joselio Hanson CB
    Shane Lechler P
    Matt Leinart QB
    Mike Mitchell S
    Brandon Myers TE
    Brandian Ross CB
    Owen Schmitt FB
    Matt Shaughnessy DE
    Jeremy Stewart RB
    Philip Wheeler LB

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RGIII PLAYED THE GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME i HAVE EVER SEEN YESTERDAY!

    He was joe montan meets Micheal Vick, meets Randall Cunningham.

    He was unbelievable accurate and he toyed with the eagles.

    I cant wait to see TP6!!!!

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    No no no no. IN fact you were the one that was on this blog all night and all the next day sobbing. Sorry I hurt your feelings so badly. But, hey, the truth hurts.

    Sure bro, whatever you say.

  • mcfadden20.

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Eagles started sucking after their longtime DCo Johnson retired or passed away . Not sure what happened to him

    That is true! Jim Johnson passed away! After, they have never been teh same on D!

    Yup, they were always a top 10 unit with him , which was 1 of the reasons they were always in the playoffs

  • The Beeech Dawg

    Brahs, this is totally sweet

    Never seen Albert Puss go at it with Peemore Bust.

    This promises to be one of the greatest hair pulling contests of all time

    Should be better than an episode of The View

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    RGIII PLAYED THE GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME i HAVE EVER SEEN YESTERDAY!

    He was joe montan meets Micheal Vick, meets Randall Cunningham.

    He was unbelievable accurate and he toyed with the eagles.

    I cant wait to see TP6!!!!

    ______

    LMAO hahaha unbelieveable accurate? only 15 attempts against a team that has mailed it in

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    Brahs, this is totally sweet

    Never seen Albert Puss go at it with Peemore Bust.

    This promises to be one of the greatest hair pulling contests of all time

    Should be better than an episode of The View
    ——-
    Beeech, I finally found out why you and Mistabrown are always clowning on this fool. He totally deserves your beat downs.

  • mcfadden20.

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Brahs, this is totally sweet

    Never seen Albert Puss go at it with Peemore Bust.

    This promises to be one of the greatest hair pulling contests of all time

    Should be better than an episode of The View

    Better than turd eating contest you enjoy with your fellow Pmpp posters

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Mistic.

    Football take on the defense?

    Ever?
    —–
    Mistic’s expertise is the QB position. He’s too busy breaking down tape of Div II games to worry about the defense.
    ============

    I posted several takes on the defense before the game, and have done so since joining the board.

    Palmers flop is such a spectacle it garners attention.

    Hu jack vs palmer in the bungles bowl 2012

    Must see tv

  • eastoaklandraider

    We beat Houston last year. Houston would beat us 78-0 this year.

    —-

    That only happened cuz our team played lights out after A D died , check our games against good Os , n come back and tell me what you think
    ——————-

    You give this guy a clear example of us beating a good O last year and this dummy Mcfaggen offers up another excuse to save face “That only happened cuz our team played lights out after A D died” whatever dude you are dumbest fans in america.

  • Just Fire Baby

    This game is what separates the macaroni form the spaghetti,

    *************************

    Good try, but spaghetti IS a from of macaroni.

    Spaghetti, linguini, ziti, rotini = all forms of macaroni.

    You should have went with my favorite, time to seperate the balony from the bread.

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Mistic.

    Football take on the defense?

    Ever?
    —–
    Mistic’s expertise is the QB position. He’s too busy breaking down tape of Div II games to worry about the defense.
    ============

    I posted several takes on the defense before the game, and have done so since joining the board.

    Palmers flop is such a spectacle it garners attention.

    Hu jack vs palmer in the bungles bowl 2012

    Must see tv

    Just a several takes ? why only several takes over the worst D in the league?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RGIII was 15/16 200 yards and 4 tds, 0 ints

    12 rushes for 85 yards.

    he scrambled beat the blitz with line audibles and trashed the eagles in his first ever match up with this division rival.

    All that and from a rookie?!??!?!?!

    please

  • Carl Weathers

    It’s probaly a coping mechanism. (football)

    @@@@@@

    Probably, and most likely affecting his coaching.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Carl Weathers Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    Look on the bright side guys, next years team will probably be without half the roster as we know it now!

    Between FA’s and cuts due to crazy salaries /poor performance.

    Here’s the FA’s:

    Phillip Adams CB
    Khalif Barnes T
    Ron Bartell CB
    Desmond Bryant DT
    Cooper Carlisle G
    Andre Carter DE
    Matt Giordano S
    Mike Goodson RB
    Derek Hagan WR
    Joselio Hanson CB
    Shane Lechler P
    Matt Leinart QB
    Mike Mitchell S
    Brandon Myers TE
    Brandian Ross CB
    Owen Schmitt FB
    Matt Shaughnessy DE
    Jeremy Stewart RB
    Philip Wheeler LB
    ———————-
    Besides Wheeler and Myers I wouldn’t lose any sleep if the rest of those guys were gone. bye bye to Seymour and Kelly too.

  • RaiderDebo

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    The bungles bowl 2012 now becomes the biggest game of carsons life!! This game is what separates the macaroni form the spaghetti, and Carson can begin to carve out a little satisfaction form a failed career.
    ======================================

    I don’t know if leading the National Football League in TD’s and completion percentage, and being a two time Pro Bowl player would constitute a “failed” career. Jamarcus Russell had a “failed” career. Cam Netwon is well on his way to a “failed” career.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Carson Palmer wasn’t drafted #1 overall to the Bengals to lead them to just 2 playoff appearances in 10 years and not win a playoff game during that stretch. I’d never call Him a failure because he won a Heisman, got drafted #1 and has made tons of money during an 11-year career as a starting QB in the NFL. In life, that’s success any way you cut it. But ask any Bengal fan and they’ll tell you they are disappointed in the results during his time there.

  • Marks hair

    Coaches matter

  • The Beeech Dawg

    Ha ha, McFartin’, that was one sad, sad attempt at a blog diss

    Nerd, you can’t start a meltdown before you enter my Blog Octogon. I usually like to enjoy a few sweet scissor kicks to your nads first

    Anyway, thanks for the laughs, you’re free now to continue your minion duties

    WHUT WHUT

  • JLofty

    isn’t Huge now the errand boy for the Bungles secondary coaches? quite a vote of confidence in him there Marv…

  • eastoaklandraider

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Eagles started sucking after their longtime DCo Johnson retired or passed away . Not sure what happened to him

    That is true! Jim Johnson passed away! After, they have never been teh same on D!

    Yup, they were always a top 10 unit with him , which was 1 of the reasons they were always in the playoffs
    ———————

    SEE DUMMY COACHING MATTERS!!!! but i guess the eagles dont have talent.

  • mcfadden20.

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    We beat Houston last year. Houston would beat us 78-0 this year.

    —-

    That only happened cuz our team played lights out after A D died , check our games against good Os , n come back and tell me what you think
    ——————-

    You give this guy a clear example of us beating a good O last year and this dummy Mcfaggen offers up another excuse to save face “That only happened cuz our team played lights out after A D died” whatever dude you are dumbest fans in america.

    EastOakLandB1tch , i knew you would show up to protect your fellow lovers on here , cuz that was the only time we beat a top ranked O , you can def chalk that up to inspired effort by our D after Al D died, no way they even show up, had every thing been alright, the proof is there we s8cked against top Passing O’s even if you want to take that win into account , hard to argue over the fact that 6 wins came against bottom 15 O’s

  • JLofty

    I think you gotta keep Desmond Bryant esp if you’re shedding Seyless and Kelly….

  • Marks hair

    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch

  • bcz24

    no

    palmers raider are abysmal and shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as jc’s team.

    I watched the game in blind amazement watching palmer do exactly what i knew he would do when we signed that albatross of a contract. He threw horrific turn overs and the team staggered to the finish line.
    **************************
    So the INT in the endzone was horrific on Palmers part? I mean throwing to a wide open tight end is horrific?

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    JLofty Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    isn’t Huge now the errand boy for the Bungles secondary coaches? quite a vote of confidence in him there Marv…
    —————-
    M. Lewis Probaly put him in a position where he couldn’t step on any toes or cut any throats.br
    That being said, Miss ya Hue!

  • JLofty

    I lost $1000 yesterday starting CP3 instead of RGIII. Man that turned out poorly….

  • mcfadden20.

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Eagles started sucking after their longtime DCo Johnson retired or passed away . Not sure what happened to him

    That is true! Jim Johnson passed away! After, they have never been teh same on D!

    Yup, they were always a top 10 unit with him , which was 1 of the reasons they were always in the playoffs
    ———————

    SEE DUMMY COACHING MATTERS!!!! but i guess the eagles dont have talent.

    —-
    coaching matters, but they can only do so much if they got no talent, just look at Lakers , do they even fire M Brown if they weren’t loaded , nope , they were underachieving , we’re def on par with talent level on this team

  • Marks hair

    I say we cut all but maybe 10 players

  • The Beeech Dawg

    Bigelo, notice how quickly Bust disappears when confronted? Classic move, been doing that for years

    Poor punching bag needs a few minutes so he can fire up his Hotmail account and drop in a few sock puppets to back him up

    Watch, some muppet like Nob Bust will show up any second

    Snap into a Slim Jim

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Marks hair Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch
    ——————
    I’m sure his mother would love to know that lol.

  • RaidingTexas

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mistic’s expertise is the QB position. He’s too busy breaking down tape of Div II games to worry about the defense.

    —————————————

    So if he was GM, we’d be drafting the entire Grambling State 2013 graduating class?

  • mcfadden20.

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Ha ha, McFartin’, that was one sad, sad attempt at a blog diss

    Nerd, you can’t start a meltdown before you enter my Blog Octogon. I usually like to enjoy a few sweet scissor kicks to your nads first

    Anyway, thanks for the laughs, you’re free now to continue your minion duties

    WHUT WHUT

    —-
    WTF YOU even talking about ? what is this sum kinda game? are you like 12 years old ?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Carson Palmer was neither a success or a failure in Cincy.

    He was drafted #1 overall, which meant he went to a dog crap organization. However, unlike our #1 overall pick at QB, he actually pulled the team out of the doldrums, but just for too short of a period for it to be a success.

    Cincy than traded him for a 1st and 2nd round pick. I see no reason why ANY fan of the Bengals would look at that and see a failure.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Mistic is not a true Raiders fan he is a black qb fan, like some people have just pointed out he never talks defense or any other position for that matter, he is what he is period.

  • mcfadden20.

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Bigelo, notice how quickly Bust disappears when confronted? Classic move, been doing that for years

    Poor punching bag needs a few minutes so he can fire up his Hotmail account and drop in a few sock puppets to back him up

    Watch, some muppet like Nob Bust will show up any second

    Snap into a Slim Jim

    or Maybe he doesn’t have time for trolls like you ?> no ?

  • bcz24

    LMAO hahaha unbelieveable accurate? only 15 attempts against a team that has mailed it in
    ************************
    He says this on a day when Schaub threw for 527 yards and 5 TDs, or Henne threw for 350 and 4 tds.

    Not taking anything from RGIII, he is a hell of a qb, but whats his excuse for only having 1 more win than us?

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    JLofty Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    I think you gotta keep Desmond Bryant esp if you’re shedding Seyless and Kelly….
    ——————
    fair enough

  • Marks hair

    886. 8-8 is on par with our talent… obviously.. we have regressed.. ask mark

  • RaiderDebo

    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch

    883.bcz24 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    no

    palmers raider are abysmal and shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as jc’s team.

    I watched the game in blind amazement watching palmer do exactly what i knew he would do when we signed that albatross of a contract. He threw horrific turn overs and the team staggered to the finish line.
    **************************
    So the INT in the endzone was horrific on Palmers part? I mean throwing to a wide open tight end is horrific?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    No, but the pick-6 was. And he’s lucky a lot of DBs can’t catch because he could’ve had at least two more. The guy sucked yesterday. Wake up.

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    This is Palmer’s Super Bowl this week. Hopefully the team rallies around him.
    ====================================
    Dopey comment. Most players have a link to another team, somewhere. some more than one. You act like Palmer is God and the team bows in his presence. That, according to you, he should be rallied around? That it’s his SB? That all the team wants to make Palmer happy?
    Moron

  • bcz24

    If Palmer was on the Bengals last year and this year they would be a contender. They actually have a defense now, and a marquee receiver who actually knows how the hell to run something other than a 9 route.