Mark Davis ‘embarrassed, disappointed’ in team’s play
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, November 18th, 2012 at 6:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders owner Mark Davis consented to a group interview with the media about 30 minutes after his team lost for the third straight time, 38-17 to the New Orleans Saints on Sunday at the Coliseum.
Davis was cordial, candid and and passionate in answering myriad questions about the state of his team, the status of head coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenize, his expectations and much more. Here’s the entire transcript:
Q: How do you beat Pittsburgh, play Atlanta tough and then have this happen?
Mark Davis: “The word regression.”
Q: Is this a rebuilding season?
A: “Not as much. I don’t know what the word would be. I know that we didn’t have the talent, at the beginning of the year, to be a Super Bowl team. I thought that we had definitely potential to get maybe in the playoffs and beat our division. Obviously, that hasn’t happened.”
Q: What’s your mood like?
A: “I’m not happy. But nobody in this room is.”
Q: Do you still feel as if your team can turn it around this season?
A: “Take it game by game, but I don’t know. I know they’re going to fight.”
Q: What do you say to the players?
A: “I didn’t say anything to ‘em. Let the coaches talk to em. I talked to Reggie (McKenzie, general manager).”
Q: What were the goals heading into the season?
A: “Finding a direction for the franchise, moving forward and seeing progress week to week would have been a happier time right now. But that’s still possible.”
Q: What kind of a challenge did you face with a first-time owner, rookie head coach, rookie general manager, salary cap issues, lack of draft picks, etc.?
A: “It’s absolutely a challenge.”
Q: Has the challenge been more daunting than you expected?
A: “No, I wouldn’t say that. I wouldn’t say that. Again, it’s just the results of the game. You win or lose. We haven’t been winning, and it hasn’t been close the last three weeks.”
Q: Did you see depth as being an issue going into the season? Salary cap issues hamstring your team?
A: “As I said, coming in I didn’t know that we had a Super Bowl team and everything, but you can’t blame it on the salary cap and all that. You have players and you coach ‘em and you play. You got to be Raiders.”
Q: Is it time to give other quarterbacks a shot other than Carson Palmer?
A: “That’s up to the coaches. That’s not my decision. I have opinions but I’m not going to speak ‘em.”
Q: Why not?
A: “Because that’s not my place. I have plenty of confidence in Carson Palmer.”
Q: The players say that they aren’t giving up on the season? Your thoughts?
A: “Absolutely. Absolutely. I’m just saying right now I’m a little disappointed with the regression. But, like I say, they’ll fight.”
Q: How frustrated are you?
A: “I couldn’t put it on a 1 to 10 (scale). I’m not happy, I’ll put it that way. But why should I be? Why should we be? Why should anyone in this room be? But they’’ll fight and fix it.”
Q: Do you talk to coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie much during the week?
A: “I talk to Reggie quite a bit, yeah.”
Q: About business?
A: “Everything.”
Q: Do Reggie and Dennis get a pass this year?
A: “Like I say, I’m patient. I’m patient. But I want to see progress. I don’t want to see regression. Nobody does. And that’s why I’m unhappy today. But as far as a pass, I wouldn’t call it a pass. They’ve got contracts; they’re going to be here.”
Q: Did you say you just had surgery?
A: “Yeah, I had back surgery.”
Q: What did they do for your back?
A: “It’s been a two-year process. I had a sciatic nerve problem, a pain in my ass. And I had surgery five months ago, and it didn’t fix it. And, then, so they took pictures again, they found a big cyst-tumor right on the sciatic nerve.”
Q: Why didn’t they find it the first time?
A: “So I’m feeling a lot better.”
A: So it’s all healed?
A: “Well, not totally. January 1 I can start working out. The triplets go away then. I deliver. But again, it’s a sad day today. The last three weeks have been sad, but we’re going to fight. That’s what it is. And we’ll see what happens.”
Q: Are you involved in choosing people to light the torch?
A: “Yes, I am.”
Q: Couple people who your dad had issues with, eh?
A: “Maybe some people thought they were unresolved feelings, but (they are) very close to my mom and myself. And part of the Raider family. And once a Raider, always a Raider. I’ve had trouble with my dad at times. Once or twice. But it’s fantastic. These people are all part of our family, and love ‘em. It’s a good thing.”
Q: Who’s next?
A: “Who you think should be? I’m definitely open to suggestions.”
Q: Encouraged by fact that fans are still here?
A: “Love it. Absolutely love it, but I apologize to them as well. I’m embarrassed for ‘em. Because they live and die as Raiders fans, and I feel for ‘em, I really do. And we’re going to get it right. If it’s for anybody, it’s for them.”
Q: You heard the boos?
A: “I didn’t hear the boos, no. But I can just feel how they feel, because I feel the same way. I’m a fan. And I take responsibility for it, going to get it right.”
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November 18th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
SAINTS REPORT
Once again, another game we let get away, and get away early.
Dropped TD passes in the endzone…. the 13th of the year if you count the pre season. On our second kick off return our returner has a huge hole, a sure TD, and he trips on a blade of grass. Thats 14 pts we should have had. By the time we finally score, we could have been up 21-7. But thanks to more poor route running by Denarius “I cant run my routes” Moore, we spot them another 7. Then we give up a 38 yard bomb on a 3rd and 13 that gives them another 7.
21-7 at the half. Except its the complete opposite of the way it should be.
This was a 7-4 football team that collapsed under Hue. He wanted to gut this team of the LOSERS but he made himself un-keep-able with his tirade at the end of the year and his idol worship of the late Al Davis.
So we go into 2012 with a nearly identical squad yet we have already started our collapse before we ever got going. Lets not act like we havent seen this team NOT SHOW UP before. Remember Miami and GB last year? They did it to Hue also.
So with that said, Im not ready to give up on the coaching staff yet. They arent the problem. Most of you wont agree with me but most of you cant differentiate between poor execution and poor play calling. Most of you have never played and couldnt break down film to save your life. When our team starts doing the basic stuff right, then we’ll start winning games.
Its been the same mistakes all year. Crappy WR play. Crappy O-Line play. And poor tackling and our LB’s missing gaps. It’s time to gut this thing. Heck, Im all for putting Pryor in at this point. For two reasons, save Palmer’s arm and secondly, lets see what we have in TP. No point in wasting him away in street clothes. We gain NOTHING by playing Palmer at this point and we lose a valuable time to evaluate Pryor for the future.
The only way I consider dumping this coaching staff is if Chucky is available. Thats it. Otherwise we stay the course. Its not our coaches faults that our players continually shoot themselves in the feet. Dumb penalties, missed assignments, poor gap control, missed tackles, timely fumbles, and dropped TD passes are all a massive fault of the players themselves.
Here are my suggestions to Reggie moving forward. Some of you will be VERY surprised by some of it as recent circumstances have caused me to change my stance on certain players…..
Players to keep moving forward, these are the stone cold locks to keep:
- CP3 (he’s not the problem, he’s having a career year, he’s a WR and a RT away from winning us a lot more games. We should have brought TO in. End of story)
- Pryor
- Wiz
- Goodson
- Reece
- Veldheer
- Bergstrom
- Ausberry
- SeaBass
- Burris
- Wheeler
- Huff (he’s a good #2 CB, replacing him while finding a #1 CB will be next to impossible)
- Branch
Everyone else is expendable at the right price. Dump DMC if we can get a 1st rounder for him or a 2nd & a 3rd. The Jets are dumb enough to do something like that. Goodson, Reece, and now that practice squad guy Stewart have all proved that despite schitty OLine play, DMC was part of the running woes. His field vision is poor and he lacks patience. You could argue that we need to go back to a Power Blocking Scheme. But that requires expensive lineman and a talented back like DMC that cant stay healthy. Sorry. But thats too expensive and too unreliable.
Seymore has played well but he’s going to retire and is just too expensive. Our WR core needs a major kick in the a55. Jacoby is always hurt and hates playing in the slot, he doesnt want to be here as a result. DHB has too many dropped balls for his playing time/paycheck to warrant. Denarius has caused a number of INTs due to his lack of focus and running of the wrong routes. Streater has dropped TDs and fumbled in the redzone too many times. Our WR core is so frustrating. They do so many things awesome and they all have these lil flaws that cost us big. If we could take those 4 guys and combine them into 2 guys we’d have Jerry Rice and Tim Brown again. Unfortunately we have the parts but as a whole, the sum of that group just doesnt add up. I hate saying it, but its the damn truth.
Briesel has been a huge bust. Our RT situation has been a major issue for years. Barnes must go. I dont care how, just get him the fvck out of a Raider uniform. The whole right side needs to take a hike. Lets stop putting lineman NOT in there natural positions. Wiz is a LG not a C. Bergstrom is a RT not a Guard. For fvcks sake.
Get us a real center. Move Wiz back to the left side and maybe Veldheer will start looking like the Veldheer we all came to love last year.
Missle Mike, your time has come and gone my friend. I always felt we should have developed him into a LB/S hybrid that was there to cover the TE’s. He’s good at it. But we’ve never done that with him. We tried to make him a Strong Safety and he cannot play that position. Im done waiting. Either use him to his limited strengths or just dump him. Yeah, dump him. He’s a liability on special teams as well.
Meyers… too many dropped TDs for my taste at this point. If we can upgrade at this position, do it. And that goes for a ton of positions. If we can upgrade, do it.
Lechler, gone. Too expensive. By simply dumping Lechler, Seymour, DMC, McClain, Mitchell, Briesel, Curry, and Kelly we will free up a TON of money and its not like our team will get any worse. All of those guys are easily replaceable.
We need (in this order)
1. Center (draft one to develop and pick one up in free agency)
2. Right Guard (draft one to develop and pick one up in free agency)
3. #1 CB (how we passed on Assante Samuel I just dont know)
4. a true #1 WR (by any means necessary. We could have had Moss and TO lined up this year and I highly doubt those two would have dropped so many balls and ran so many poor routes. Just sayin’)
5. two MLBs (one by draft and one by free agency)
6. switch to a 3-4. Our current DE’s are just not game changers and finding some stud DEs in the draft or in free agency might just be too expensive and difficult to pull off considering the other problems.
7. get a true #1 TE if Ausberry isnt the guy. We cant have a guy that drops TD passes. It just cant happen.
8. get a real Special Teams ace to return punts. Im tired of the bums we roll out there. They always fumble at the worst times.
Realistically we have about 11-13 guys who are worth keeping and 8-10 that MUST go. Everyone else should be on notice. If the coaching staff has lost this team, its time to evaluate who really wants to be here. Some of them obviously still dont get it. Al Davis isnt coming out of the grave to fire our coaching staff and tell the players it isnt there fault. Daddy isnt going to fix everything and make it all better. It’s gut check time. The scholarship days are fvcking done. I cant wait to see who gets their pink slips.
Until our O-Line is rebuilt from the right side, our WRs grow the fvck up, and we get a LOT better at the LB and DE positions, we will not be where we should be.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Can we play Pryor at safety?
November 18th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
For that you were a very lucky individual,Priest.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Thank God I bought Black Ops 2 so I can tie my sense of self worth to a video game instead of this disgusting football team I used to love with my entire soul..the dead and decayed Oakland Raiders…the horror…
November 18th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Something everyone wants to know @kevincline03 what I dont understand is how raiders best strengths were the O & D lines Now they’re garbage
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Thats called coaching pal.. or lack of it.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I hope DA does more than just recite the notes he took all game. They played like crap today !
November 18th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Al almost brought in Jacoby Jones as a FA about 2 years ago. True story
November 18th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I will say this, Im content with Mark Davis’ attitude at this point. He said all the right things in that interview.
Heck, he doesnt talk much to the media, the very fact that he took the time to do so right now at this point in the season speaks volumes as to his frustration and the fact that he wants us to know that he cares.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
As often as we hear stories of how Al would slam Mark in meetings, Mark had to take something from his father, and i think would want to make his farther proud. Do you think he says to thimself, “What would dad do?” I hope so, cause Al would not keep this garbage around for more than one season.
All the stories were told of how Al would come out to training camp or practice on a golf cart and everybody would play harder and be on their best behavior. Did Al attend all practices years ago when they were good? Its almost as if these players arent afraid of losing their job and are used to losing. Bill Cower, Gruden, Parcells would.all be awesome. But DA is soft. Come on Mark, hire a person that the players will fear.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Q: What were the goals heading into the season?
A: “Finding a direction for the franchise, moving forward and seeing progress week to week would have been a happier time right now. But that’s still possible.”
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You know the direction aint the ZBS
November 18th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
At least Mark doesn’t have any coach speak. And I read between the lines he aint happy with the coaches.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Mark has tumors on his ass? Dude is a retard and is clueless coke head owner who’s nose Job from doing blow looks horrible.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
As often as we hear stories of how Al would slam Mark in meetings, Mark had to take something from his father, and i think would want to make his farther proud. Do you think he says to thimself, “What would dad do?” I hope so, cause Al would not keep this garbage around for more than one season.
All the stories were told of how Al would come out to training camp or practice on a golf cart and everybody would play harder and be on their best behavior. Did Al attend all practices years ago when they were good? Its almost as if these players arent afraid of losing their job and are used to losing. Bill Cower, Gruden, Parcells would.all be awesome. But DA is soft. Come on Mark, hire a person that the players will fear.
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By all accounts of the media and the players, DA isnt soft. He gets loud and animated, just not in front of the camera.
And yeah, the players played harder when Al was at practice. That wasnt the problem. it was the conflict of interests when it came to Al meddling with the game plan and undermining his coaching staff that was the problem.
Lets stop looking for phantom answers to the problem and lets just be real. Our team is in major need of some house cleaning. Its long overdue. Its not complicated or difficult to see.
Some guys just got to go.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Wasn’t Tarver the DC for Stanford last year when they had a million points put up on then by Oregon? Stanford has a killer defense now…. Just sayin.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
DA, Lane Kiffin, Josh McDaniels, all the same.
Even DA tied his coaching truck to GREG KNAPP lol just like kiffin. KNapp has brought down this offense yet again.
Boo birds, Fans leaving early.. Pigeons flying over the stadium just like before when HUE GOT here and brought back excitment to this franchise. Say what you want about HUE but this time last year we were in the playoff hunt without DMAC or Campbell.
Will DA be a better coach then Singletary or NOLAN? probaly not. Da reminds me of singletary saying we are gonna look at DA FILM. lol what else coach?
Now you know why HUE BYYTCHD out his team in week 17 saying there was gonna be alot of changes. You guys blame hue for the D last year LMAO.. well what baout DA.. thats his area and the defense is WORSE!! under his watch. Most points since pre AL ERA
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Coaching, Defense, and O-line. This team has failed all counts and the responsibility lies with the Coach. Unlike past years, we can’t/won’t follow Davis’ lead and start over again next year. And that’s a good thing.
The problem is Allen was hired on the mandate that he could win now with this team. He hasn’t. O-line was restructured with a new system and has failed. Coaching has looked inexperienced and nothing like a Payton/Harbaugh model I’m sure Mckenzie was looking for. And can’t stomach any mention of the defense.
It’s a shame since the last couple of years showed promise and here we are.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Get Hue to light the torch….
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mr. Green, where is my happy face?8) 88888888-8)
November 18th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Tat sucked
November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Tat?8)
November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Here is the video of Davis speaking:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/raidersvideo?PID=hXWM2-lxT8kSYgV_cGxirISMfm6a2Vct6_9Lyw#
November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I need a green smiley
November 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
No,you are the one that is wrong,boy.The team was better and getting better when Cable was HC and Jackson was OC.The team got worse as the year went along when Jackson was HC/OC.
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Lefty12, You have to take into consideration the owner and GM and mentor died in his rookie coaching year not the 3rd year his ROOKIE year 5 games into the year. Tell me one coach that wouldn’t have an affect on. To be soo anti-Huejackson makes no sense to me the guy whether you like himm or not is immaterial. No coach under those circumstances can be expected to do well. Especially with all the in juries. I know you have somke sense of fairness but it is NOT evident when it comes to Hue jackson.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
A: “Like I say, I’m patient. I’m patient. But I want to see progress. I don’t want to see regression. Nobody does. And that’s why I’m unhappy today. But as far as a pass, I wouldn’t call it a pass. They’ve got contracts; they’re going to be here.”
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No idea what to make of this. The last sentence suggests they’re getting at least another year. Either way, not a ringing endorsement.
But let’s not forget Mark is on the hook for this one more than anyone. By all insider accounts, firing Hue was his call, not Reggie’s.
November 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Hey Fetus Face…Do you realize you were a defensive coordinator away from making the playoffs this year? How f’ing stupid can you be? You are getting everything you deserve after flushing last years team down the toilet and barging in on this season like these new guys had even the slightest semblance of a clue.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Al Davis’ wife must not have been very attractive.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Bruce was far better than Campbell that year. Another great call by Hue.
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Been a while. What up Chris!
November 18th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Raider fans are awesome. To bad we had to watch this slop fest. One other thing before I call it a day to a very depressing game.
Saints coulda pummeled DA to the tune of 55 or more points, but I believe vitt was showing allen a little professional courtesy by not b!tch slapping him like harbaugh did.
It aint the players people. It’s the zbs and defense scheme regression. And Mark knows it. Sounds like Reggie gets a earful of it to. Palmer is put put into a position to fail with horizontal passing, then presses to much.
Another stupid observation. Reece is pretty good. Why the eff didn’t knapp ever offer a legit 1-2 punch with Darren and Reece to begin the season? We were so damn 1 dimensional it was pathetic. We were beyond 1 dimensional, maybe a half dimensional.
Right on Mark. We’re not happy with DA and the OC either.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
303Raider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Get Hue to light the torch….
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Ha! Awesome.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
This Is EXACTLY why I was pi$$ed about losing Hue…you know who we can thank for all of this??? Honestly??? Bresnahan…think about it…
November 18th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
A: “Like I say, I’m patient. I’m patient. But I want to see progress. I don’t want to see regression. Nobody does. And that’s why I’m unhappy today. But as far as a pass, I wouldn’t call it a pass. They’ve got contracts; they’re going to be here.”
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No idea what to make of this. The last sentence suggests they’re getting at least another year. Either way, not a ringing endorsement.
But let’s not forget Mark is on the hook for this one more than anyone. By all insider accounts, firing Hue was his call, not Reggie’s.
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I’ll interpret it for you.
It means he’s not afraid to cut his loses. He wants to be patient but if things dont improve, he isnt going to give them their whole contract just for the sake of doing so.
As for dumping Hue, I would have preferred Hue stayed. He earned it. BUT… he left Mark no choice. Hue overplayed his hand. We need to all be honest about this fact and just get over it. Hue has no one to blame for his firing but himself.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Q: Did you see depth as being an issue going into the season? Salary cap issues hamstring your team?
A: “As I said, coming in I didn’t know that we had a Super Bowl team and everything, but you can’t blame it on the salary cap and all that. You have players and you coach ‘em and you play. You got to be Raiders.”
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Stop blaming AL and the Salary cap.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Wasn’t Tarver the DC for Stanford last year when they had a million points put up on then by Oregon? Stanford has a killer defense now…. Just sayin.
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Stanford is better. Houston is better. Denver is better. We got a vaccume of the discarded goin on now.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Reminds me of a really bad LSD story when I requested the Green Smileys at an out of the way store in Los Padres National Forest. Maybe another time, but I did catch Bullfrog Lane last week.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Damn, caught ya’
November 18th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Nice interview Mark, way to,stand up!
November 18th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Hey Mark, since you fired our best coach since Gruden, how much of this debacle do you own up to?
Maybe we are not patient with your stupid ass??
Sell the team and we can finally get the “Davis” stank out of Oakland….
November 18th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
No e on vacuum but it sucks just the same.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
3.lefty12 Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
For that you were a very lucky individual,Priest.
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Thanks lefty12, I think so as well, I learned a lot and experienced a lot.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Bruce was far better than Campbell that year. Another great call by Hue.
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Been a while. What up Chris!
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Been around. Busy with other things and don’t check in as often as I used to because of that and the fact that I’ve been down on the whole operation since the day Hue was fired. Gotta admit though, I never imagined it would get this bad.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I need a green smiley
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Mr Green is pretty bummed out right now.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
May I remind you all that this downhill slide began with our COACH giving the team a day off (Monday following the KC game) following wins over 2 teams who now have a combined record of 2-18….
This is all on RM and DA….
See ya’ll after the Browns game!
November 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Fire Tarver, let DA call the defensive plays, replace Burris with Curry.
You can’t just keep doing the same thing, you have to TRY to change up something.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Reminds me of a really bad LSD story when I requested the Green Smileys at an out of the way store in Los Padres National Forest. Maybe another time, but I did catch Bullfrog Lane last week.
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I was on Bullfrog Av last week end in Suncadia. Wish I was there right now to forget about this game.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Lefty you remind me of Joe Gibbs and Art Shell 2.0, You once new the game well but as the years went on the game passed you by.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Q: The players say that they aren’t giving up on the season? Your thoughts?
A: “Absolutely. Absolutely. I’m just saying right now I’m a little disappointed with the regression. But, like I say, they’ll fight.”
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The owner and most sane fans realize this team has regressed, but not Chico.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
6 out of 10 games now we’ve given up 30+ points.
Over the last three, we’re giving up an average of 44 pts. Ridiculous.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Raider Riff…. I agree that it is not difficult to see. But i disagree that its mostly players The teams that are good are because of coaching and the QB, PERIOD.No other position changes a game that much except maybe a RB. These guys are in the NFL because they are big, strong, fast and talented. What seperates them is what a coach can do with them. Ever wonder why Parcells was always successful, why Cower always had good teams,, or.why Gruden took a bucs team that aleays underachieved and he won a super bowl in year ONE. Namdi was great, but that didnt help in the wins column. Barry sanders was the greatest RB ever, but wayne fontz was an idiot. On the flip side, Teddy Bruschi was slow, short and not very talented but was coached to be in the right positions. Wes Welker was a nobody, but a good coach used his talents and look at him now.
I could go on and on, but its very simple, good coaches win in this league, good players help but the Raiders cant draft thier.way out of this, or trade thier way out of it either.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
The owner and most sane fans realize this team has regressed, but not Chico.
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Don’t make shat up, clear as day the team has regressed.
You are what your record is.
That’s why I say fire Tarver, the D is getting worse and worse, and is effecting the entire spirit of the team.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Replace Burris with Curry? I don’t think so. Curry is one of the dumbest players on the team.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I realize there are a few people here that will think it’s premature to fire Titty boy even if the Raids get blown out every single game the rest of the way.
I don’t get it – but it is what it is.
I’m not going to beat THAT dead horse right now.
What I want to know now, is there anyone here that doesn’t think Hoffman should be fired TONIGHT ?
I want you to watch Jocoby’s KO return last week in Baltimore – and then compare it to the KO return at the start of the 2nd half today.
It is MIND BOGGLING how fkng INEPT and PATHETIC our coverage is.
In particular, watch the 3 Saints that seal the lane on today’s return and how the Raiders don’t even come close to busting through the ‘wedge’. No fkng effort or desire whatsoever.
My friends, this is not professional level football.
Almost the SAME EXACT RETURN 2 weeks in a row.
And don’t think the Saints didn’t plan it that way.
Hoffman must be canned immediately, even if Tits has to coach the coverage teams himself.
WHAT A POS STAFF TITTY BOY HAS ASSEMBLED.
ACCOUNTABILITY ? WTF IS THAT ? THERE’S NONE HERE.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
nycraider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
shanahan will light the torch at our thursday night home game against the broncos
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Pete Rozelle the next game after that.
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The game after that one….The Mayor Of Irwindale.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
6 out of 10 games now we’ve given up 30+ points.
Over the last three, we’re giving up an average of 44 pts. Ridiculous.
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You know the Saints coulda put upp 55. Vitt did not not to b1tch slap DA into submission like Harbaugh did.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Agreed Raiderman…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShrHALlsd4&feature=g-all-u
November 18th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
DA needs to hold the coaches accountable. Not the players. Players aren’t buying into off and def schemes, nor coach speak. Give the players credit for that.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Missed the postgame handshake. Was DA all smiles with his old buddy Vitt.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Replace Burris with Curry? I don’t think so. Curry is one of the dumbest players on the team.
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I believe Curry sucks massive wuevos, but Burris is a massive hole in our defense that you can’t keep trotting out there.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I’ve been calling for Hoffman’s firing since the Charger game.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Watch the Lakers…you see what happens when you drop some deadbeat Head Coach
November 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Lets make this coaching thing simple:
Hue Jackson: Offense is his expertise. when Hue came to Oakland we were the worst offensive team in football he proceeded to make us the 6th, and 9th ranked offense.
DA: Defense is his expertise. when he came to oakland we were one of the worst defenses in the league, well under his watch opposing offenses have scored 30+ points already including giving up 97 points in 2 games which hadnt happened here since the 60’s and to top it off his D gave up a rookie rushing record.
Draw your own conclusion.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Pretty impressive interview with M. Davis. Taking his first lumps in his fathers shadow. And dishing it out and making it known this is unacceptable. Al might be smiling somewhere.
I’m just a little upset that it’s taken this long for the upper brass to finally address it publicly.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
*30+ points in 10 games.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Baltimore’s offense is average at best and these guys hung 55 on us. Unacceptable.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
The owner and most sane fans realize this team has regressed, but not Chico.
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Don’t make shat up, clear as day the team has regressed.
You are what your record is.
That’s why I say fire Tarver, the D is getting worse and worse, and is effecting the entire spirit of the team.
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Oh yeah. That’s right buddy. What about our offense? Did it regress?
LOL
Stop it dude.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Gruden with a Raider hat on, can it be???????
November 18th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Just think how bad the Patriots would beat us. They scored 59 against the Colts today.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
What about our offense? Did it regress?
LOL
Stop it dude.
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It has a smidge points wise.
Hue got 2 years with the offense, I will give Knapp AT LEAST 1.5 years.
Fair is fair.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Raider Riff…. I agree that it is not difficult to see. But i disagree that its mostly players The teams that are good are because of coaching and the QB, PERIOD.No other position changes a game that much except maybe a RB. These guys are in the NFL because they are big, strong, fast and talented. What seperates them is what a coach can do with them. Ever wonder why Parcells was always successful, why Cower always had good teams,, or.why Gruden took a bucs team that aleays underachieved and he won a super bowl in year ONE. Namdi was great, but that didnt help in the wins column. Barry sanders was the greatest RB ever, but wayne fontz was an idiot. On the flip side, Teddy Bruschi was slow, short and not very talented but was coached to be in the right positions. Wes Welker was a nobody, but a good coach used his talents and look at him now.
I could go on and on, but its very simple, good coaches win in this league, good players help but the Raiders cant draft thier.way out of this, or trade thier way out of it either.
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Dont even bother with Riff all he will do is thumb his nose up at you if you didnt play the game or break it down on NFL rewind where you can get the game film.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Lets make this coaching thing simple:
Hue Jackson: Offense is his expertise. when Hue came to Oakland we were the worst offensive team in football he proceeded to make us the 6th, and 9th ranked offense.
DA: Defense is his expertise. when he came to oakland we were one of the worst defenses in the league, well under his watch opposing offenses have scored 30+ points already including giving up 97 points in 2 games which hadnt happened here since the 60’s and to top it off his D gave up a rookie rushing record.
Draw your own conclusion.
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Salary cap…Al’s scholarship players…it takes time…
November 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
You posted a lot of BS defending this team/ staff/ and GM when WE said this team Regressed.
Stop it!
November 18th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
**6 out of 10 games apologies.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Where are te Krappy lovers? What about the Reggie bootlickers? Quack? Mctroll20?
November 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Lets make this coaching thing simple:
Hue Jackson: Offense is his expertise. when Hue came to Oakland we were the worst offensive team in football he proceeded to make us the 6th, and 9th ranked offense.
DA: Defense is his expertise. when he came to oakland we were one of the worst defenses in the league, well under his watch opposing offenses have scored 30+ points already including giving up 97 points in 2 games which hadnt happened here since the 60’s and to top it off his D gave up a rookie rushing record.
Draw your own conclusion.
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Salary cap…Al’s scholarship players…it takes time…
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excuses excuses.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Harbaugh changed S.F in one season, same players, ALL COACHING
Gruden took the Bucs who cold never win a playoff game to champs in one season, ALL COACHING
Peyton took an inept saints tan to Super Bowl champs in just a fewseasons, ALL COACHING
Jimmy Johnson 1-15 to 2 super bowls, and players admit they should have won 2 more but didnt after he left, ALL COACHING
Patriots were the joke of the NFL before Parcells got there, went to a super bowl. Pete carrol.sent them backwards, Bellicek shows up, need i say more, ALL COACHING
Tom Caughlin took a.talented but underachieving team when he got there to TWO S.B. wins. ALL COACHING
Bill Walsh…… Niners.were.garbage before he got there, ALL COACHING.
Cower had slash, and pick city odonnel as.QB, was still good for so many years, ALL COACHING
The exception to the rule is Ray Lewis, but he might as well be a coach cause Billick wasnt.that good.
All these coaches coached hard, preached discipline and would get the very best out of their players. So no, lets no trade Dmac, Palmer or anybody that is good, lets get the right coach.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Hue is no longer a Raider.
He will never be a Raider again.
bich and moan all you want.
Hue is in the past.
Oh, Gruden aint coming back either. Get over it.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Lets make this coaching thing simple:
Hue Jackson: Offense is his expertise. when Hue came to Oakland we were the worst offensive team in football he proceeded to make us the 6th, and 9th ranked offense.
DA: Defense is his expertise. when he came to oakland we were one of the worst defenses in the league, well under his watch opposing offenses have scored 30+ points already including giving up 97 points in 2 games which hadnt happened here since the 60’s and to top it off his D gave up a rookie rushing record.
Draw your own conclusion.
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Salary cap…Al’s scholarship players…it takes time…
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excuses excuses.
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10 years of losing…these teams are awesome…we have no talent…I’m running out of them LOL!
November 18th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
- Today’s game was basically comical. I did an inside voice “oh so that’s how it’s gonna be today?” when Myers let that for sure TD go right threw his talons for an IT.
- I think the venom being spewed at Mark Davis today is a little misguided. If he just assumed the GM/Head Scout/Defensive Coordinator role his dad had and this was the result…then yes. But I mean, c’mon, he hired a guy that Madden and Wolf recommended (how much more Raider does it have to get than that?), he’s had Marcus Allen and Chucky in to light torches, for a non football guy, what else do you expect?
- I think Reggie and his coaches get one more season of “those aren’t my guys on the field” before they get poked by a bayonette and told to start making their way to the other end of the plank.
- I support Reggie, I’m underwhelmed by DA so far. Again, bringing in Knapp to tinker with an offense that didn’t need it is my only bone of contention.
- this team/organization needs some continuity and stability, with all the losing it gets harder and harder to give the benefit of the doubt, but that’s what we need.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mark, save your rhetoric. I really hope the fans have gotten message on this garbage team and hit you where it hurts: your wallet.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
This interview of owner by his request is the first public warning to Reggie. I’m willing to bet john Madden told him to do it to keep the fans keep coming in to sell the remaining games of the season. Good luck selling against Browns!
Mark Davis only talks to RM not DA. Reggie has been warned. He is responsible cor the roster and choosing a winning coach. Most of his free agents have been busts(Brisel, Bartel, Spencer, Tollefson, Pat Lee, …). And his HC has not delivered in preparing those players for battle, period. now Sheet will flow downhill. Next RM roasts DA who kicks his coaches ars and so on.
End result: preparation for 2013 is in full swing. This season is toast as far as playoffs are concerned.
November 18th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
How about that!
November 18th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Got sidetracked with the east coast devastation on chnl 6 and my better half just left and I have no better half left; this totally sucks.
November 18th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
November 18th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
- can anyone expand on some of the comments I’ve read where Mark Davis ‘made’ Reggie fire Hue?
- no matter which side you’re on, the effect of Hue’s departure could have been mitigated by keeping the system in tact by having Al Saunders assume the play calling duties as well.
- just thinking about it tonight, looking back over this lost decade or so….the only coaches that got the players to compete hard win or lose and actually have teams around the League respect the Raiders; Chucky and Tom Cable.
November 18th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
I thought DA looked totally shellshocked during his after game interview. I don’t think he has a clue..certainly does not exude confidence…
November 18th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
It seems that other coaches respect him though. Maybe DA took on too much here.
November 18th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Raider Riff; If you can’t see the many reasons why this patethic coaching staff should be eliminated, it’s clear you have piss poor judgement. You’d make a terrible leader, owner or business professional.
If the performance of this team hasn’t convinced you, maybe logic will. In the NFL each team top to bottom have talent levels that differ by only slight amounts. Most every guy in the NFL has elite ability. It’s the coaches job to identify player strengths and design a program to exploit their talents. Only foolish leaders expect great success utilizing systems/principles contrary to their players abilities. It’s the same as trying to place a square peg into an equally sized round hole.
Coach who’s the second string long snapper ? uuhhh I don’t know. Coach who’s the 3rd string tailback uuhh that guy can’t play, he fumbles to much. Coach who are your kick returners, uuhh I’m not sure this time. Coach why are you utilizing zone blocking when your halfback lead the league in rushing (before injury) while utilizing power blocking, uuhh Knapp said so ! Coach why is your team consistently flat in the 3rd qt, uuhh I never make adjustments. The list goes on !
November 18th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
I have lived and and will die silver and black. I have seen coaching changes over and over. The one thing I liked about Parcell’s time in Miami, was after a loss someone was cut until everyone got the message. We need accountability and when we start playing as if our lives are on the lines maybe, just maybe we can fit that square peg into the round hole. Cause hey, I love the players on my team, but if we need to lose a little dead weight every week while losing… well its still losing.
November 18th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Please God! MR.Davis and Mr.Reggie you even begin to know ho
w much we are all Crying with all of this!
My God My God why have you forgotten us.
If you can read my Blog, may God BlessYou! WE ARE SICK WAITING
FOR YOI GUYS -911.
Do a Complete Overhaul of the Lazy Bumbs and Injure reserves!
Fire who ever( HEADS WILL ROLL) they will know ROME WILL BE BURNING.
Get those Coaches and Assist too.
LOOK -Mr. DAVIS I loved your Fathers team ,your Father is Our Father in
Raidernation and his Ways are the Way! Please I beg to Read our Blogs
And Listen to the Media and Expert suggestions.ESPN
November 18th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Maybe is the start of something Positive we all are Waiting so long for even if we have to pay GRUDEN
Start now The Holidays are coming Please. Every is laughing at us. Remember how all of us Laugh at the Donkeys and the Dischargers.There is the Punishment from God.
November 18th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
I have a Strong feeling something Good is approaching, but your Dad is Mad. And people were laughing at his work.
Now is the Time to Move and see good and Win some for him
Develope those good player and new Rookies and see what they got. Lets see Pryor play and run, we can lose nothing.
Look how other teams develope their players and how Media and Tv channels talk about them
November 18th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Look don’t change the Uniform colors, but do redesighn to show
A New Stripe pattern and show a New Raider Team from the Gm to Head Coach, Assistant coaches and Adm Office people.
Why Not the Slight Uniform Pattern to counter the Evil Black color.Keep the color but bring, THE ANGEL and ARCHANGEL COLORS to Even things out., and Bring Peace and Harmony to
The team Spirits, Cleanse and cleaning will help the Wrong Doing of all the hurt people and Raiders ways!
Use the Rainbow Color( ANGELS COLORS) White in the Center of
Helmet (2) Light blue(3) light pink (4)light yellow(5) green) (6)red and (7)purple. WHEN THEY DO THIS WILL WIN AGAIN!
November 18th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
If the Earth doesn’t finish by Dec 21-2012 and planet
NIRIBU does not come with the Evangelical War then we should
Still have a Bad year in 2013 but make thd Playoffs Playoffs,
PLAYOFFS by 2015 after The Chuckys Curse
November 18th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
JERRY tell CORK and others. Pass the word around and multiply
Suggest this or talk to Reggie and Mr.Davis and Fax them about the Angel colors .See theres alot of people that hate the Raiders too . But when we get going the NFL shin es better.We are the Envy of All .
November 18th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Gruden is not coming back. Dennus Allen will be back for another year. If someone isn’t fired by week ends the. You know nothing is going to happen until the offseason, Season is Over was over since Week 1. Lets start evaluating TP let’s see what he can sprightly? Might as well look to the future.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Hey Mark, I’m not patient withthis current crop of so called Raider players. As the owner, you fell the fans! The product spoiled the day Spuds walk into the front door. Granted spuds should evaluated and not fire the Hue on the first day, should have kept Jason Campbell, developed Terrrell, gotten a better DG, OC, and tradedd the QB! You don’t have to put up big numbers to be sucessfull!! Get rid of Heyward-Bey and others whom can’t get open and play to win for this team! Better yet just like KC fire the whole team at the end of the season! Grandpa had a better team from the last two season then you did this year. You’re patient, but how long are the fans?
November 19th, 2012 at 1:11 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
I would stick with Palmer, if they can get a #1 receiver and better Oline… And if they can get 2 players always threat to get a sack and 1 good secondary ballhawk and MLB , otherwise there’s no point wasting his talents in here
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that’s my point. i was really happy when we got him. i think he’s been heroic to put up the numbers he’s had, while constantly under immediate pressure, always throwing while falling back, cuz the pressure is there so quick, and playing with a hodgepodge of young, not-quite-there receivers. if we can get some good picks, he might need to be traded. i mean we really need to go into the drafts with 12 picks. a couple in each round. just an influx of new talent.
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I really like him to succeed here, he kinda embraced this team, and would love to see him throwin to better receivers behind a better o line and with better D , but I wouldn’t be mad to see him gone to a better team if we can’t give him better support
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Would anyone forgo a pass rusher at one, and take Cal’s Keenan Allen – a true no. 1 receiver..?
November 19th, 2012 at 1:17 am
CVRaider Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Harbaugh changed S.F in one season, same players, ALL COACHING
Gruden took the Bucs who cold never win a playoff game to champs in one season, ALL COACHING
Peyton took an inept saints tan to Super Bowl champs in just a fewseasons, ALL COACHING
Jimmy Johnson 1-15 to 2 super bowls, and players admit they should have won 2 more but didnt after he left, ALL COACHING
Patriots were the joke of the NFL before Parcells got there, went to a super bowl. Pete carrol.sent them backwards, Bellicek shows up, need i say more, ALL COACHING
Tom Caughlin took a.talented but underachieving team when he got there to TWO S.B. wins. ALL COACHING
Bill Walsh…… Niners.were.garbage before he got there, ALL COACHING.
Cower had slash, and pick city odonnel as.QB, was still good for so many years, ALL COACHING
The exception to the rule is Ray Lewis, but he might as well be a coach cause Billick wasnt.that good.
All these coaches coached hard, preached discipline and would get the very best out of their players. So no, lets no trade Dmac, Palmer or anybody that is good, lets get the right coach.
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Harbaugh inherited a fairly good defense with a drafted nucleus that included ILB Patrick Willis, S Dashon Goldson, Justin Smith , then they added Navarro Bowman and free agent Carlos Rogers really took off. with a pass rusher like Aldon SMith, the defense was set, and Harbaugh pretty much is the main credit behind calming Alex SMith down and getting him in a caretaker position with the offense.
In the Raiders case, they had a no.1 pick overall that was a BUST. Almost NO team EVER comes back from that. – it took San Diego six years, and several great picks to recover from Ryan Leaf…Cleveland is STILL struggling after Tim Couch.
Very few teams survive from the top position if they have taken a bad QB, plus a meddlesome owner, very simplistic, and easily adjustable defense with no explosive edge rusher and several modest busts and full bust picks, having passed over Ben Rothelisberger and Jay Cutler AND Aaron Rodgers (who could forget Fabian Washington over him in 2005?)
November 19th, 2012 at 2:14 am
Well put Raider Riff. Nice to read sensible stuff on here again.
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Raider Riff Says:
November 18th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
SAINTS REPORT
Once again, another game we let get away, and get away early.
Dropped TD passes in the endzone…. the 13th of the year if you count the pre season. On our second kick off return our returner has a huge hole, a sure TD, and he trips on a blade of grass. Thats 14 pts we should have had. By the time we finally score, we could have been up 21-7. But thanks to more poor route running by Denarius “I cant run my routes” Moore, we spot them another 7. Then we give up a 38 yard bomb on a 3rd and 13 that gives them another 7.
21-7 at the half. Except its the complete opposite of the way it should be……………
November 19th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Let me say this Palmer wasnt worth the price Hue Jackson gave up. But he is surrounded by an inferior cast. The Raiders are in the running to be the worst defense in NFL history in terms of points allowed. How many quarterbacks can overcome that? Tom Brady? Peyton Manning?
Coaching wise, this is supposed to be a younger, more adaptive staff, right? At 3-6 and basically out of the playoff picture, logic would say you play like you have nothing to lose. Instead, the Raiders stuck to the same things they have in the first nine games. There was nothing new or exciting or different or novel that the Saints saw. And as the game went on, they just got more and more aggressive knowing the Raiders had no tricks or adjustments – maybe the injuries or limited staff led to that? I dont know.
November 19th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Folks, this team has gone from bad to disaster!
Allen = Clueless
Knapp = More Clueless
Tarver = Lost
Hoffman = Incompetent
McKenzie = Beyond Clueless
Offensive Line = Inept
Defensive Line = Tired
McFadden = Overrated
Special Teams = Comedy
Recievers = Afraid
Palmer = Inconsistent
And to top this off, why do we punish ourselves with Huff…he can’t play FS or CB in the dust chasing receivers! Season has been over since week 4. Nothing to watch but how much more regression happens!
November 19th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Raider Riff is very accurate. I would keep Tommy Kelley and D. Moore and Streater, though. We need a veteran WR to come in, obviously. Seymour better retire.
November 19th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Brandon Meyers will be fine, too. He cost us 7 yesterday, but be patient. He is a good TE. Fixing both lines and the cornerback situation comes first!
November 20th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
It’s about time,now when the TEAM’S owner admits he’s PISSED some people had better WAKE UP. Can’t agree more that this TEAM has UNDER ACHIEVED for too many seasons since our last visit to the Super Bowl,and we the FANS just get EXCUSES and “LIP-SERVICE” time after time.Time to take out the garbage!!The LOYAL and DIE-HARD fans desrve better than we’ve been subjected to.Either the responsibilty is too much for these guys or they think we’re FOOLED when they just half-ass perform.ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!