Allen understands criticism; Raiders talented enough to turn things around
By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 19th, 2012 at 2:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen addressed the media for about 10 minutes Monday in his weekly news conference in Alameda. He fielded 18 questions during that time, with the lion’s share of the time spent explaining why the Raiders are 3-7, how he can turn things around and his thoughts on owner Mark Davis’ recent criticism of the team’s play.
No real news surfaced today as a result, other than Allen saying he is hopeful of getting back some of his injured players such as running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson, defensive tackle Richard Seymour and strong safety Tyvon Branch.
Therefore, it’s best that you just read what Allen said and draw your own conclusions. So, here’s the entire trancript:
Q: Thoughts on Mark Davis’ comments that this team has regressed?
A: “Hey, I’m right there with him. I’m frustrated. I’m disappointed. You know, you wake up this morning and your gut hurts. But, at the same time, when a man gets knocked down and man gets up and fights. And that’s exactly what we intend to do. I understand his frustration; I can appreciate that. And let me tell you, there’s nobody that’s going to work any harder to get it corrected than I will.”
Q: Only one game but how much would it help to go on road and play best game and get a win at Cincinnati?
A: “Well, it would be huge .We need to get a win and that’ what happens in the National Football League. When you lose, it hurts. Rips your gut out. But a win turns everything around. A win makes everybody feel a lot better. And that’s what we need to do. We need to come together as a football team and we need to all make a decision that we’re going to do whatever it takes to win football games. And that’s what we’ve got to do.”
Q: Is the talent level on this team 3-7, and if not, why isn’t it?
A: “No, I think we’ve got a better team than that. And I think it all comes down to, and I’ve said it before, and I believe this with all my heart, it comes down to our ability to execute, and our ability to be disciplined and do our job the right way on every single play, and that’s what I think it comes down to and it comes down to a mindset. Our guys deciding that That’s enough. We’re not dealing with that anymore.”
Q: How much of that mindset and execution comes from coaching?
A: “Hey, listen, I think we all have a part in that. If I didn’t feel like coaching was important, I wouldn’t be doing it. I think that’s part of my responsibility, and I take that part very seriously, because I think the mindset is as important as anything else you do.”
Q: Are guys executing things properly in practice and it’s not carrying over to the game, or are there problems during the week?
A: “I think some of them show up during the week and you do everything you can to get those corrected. It’s disappointing when they show up in the game. Things happen a lot faster in the game. You have to be able to execute a lot faster in game-like situations.”
Q: Is there anybody you can call to draw upon and say, “Hey, look, I’ve tried most everything I can think of at this time?” Is there someone you can lean upon? And going back, have you ever had a season where it’s 3-7 like this?
A: “We were 5-11 with the Atlanta Falcons back in 2003. Dan Reeves was the head coach. So I’ve been through this before. It’s not my first rodeo going through this. Obviously it is as a head football coach, but there are people such as Dan Reeves that I can call for advice on how to handle different situations.”
Q: Have you called anybody?
A: “Yes.”
Q: Reeves?
A: “Yes. I talked to him earlier in the year.”
Q: How did Reeves turn it around at 5-11 and can you do the same?
Allen: “Yeah, we can. And we will. Listen, there’s not a magic formula. It really comes down to our mindset and our ability to focus in and do our jobs, not just during the game. It’s everything. It’s how we go about with our meeting process, how we go about with our practice process. Those are the little things that you have to do on a daily basis which get you the results that you’re looking for on game day.”
Q: Lot of talk training camp, things being done differently, guys signing in for meetings and detail and discipline things that were brought in help turn things around. Any slippage in that area at all?
Allen: “No, I don’t believe so. I don’t believe so. And that’s one thing that we’ve got to constantly look to monitor to make sure we’re doing the right things all the time. When you get in these situations, you’ve got two choices. You can splinter and fragment, or you can come together and fight like a 15-round heavyweight fight, and that’s exactly what we plan to do.”
Q: Your emotions personally right now?
Allen: “Like I said earlier, upset, frustrated, disappointed. Feel like we can do better. When you pour your heart out into something, you put all your heart and soul into something and you don’t get the results you’re looking for, it ain’t easy. It ain’t easy. It’s gut-wrenching, and I can assure you nobody feels any worse about the way things have gone than I do. But at the same time, nobody is looking for pity. This is professional football. We’ve got to roll up our sleeves, we’ve got to go to work and we’ve got to get it changed.”
Q: How do you keep your players focused and from mailing it in? How much of that is on you, on the players?
A: “Well, hey, listen, individually it’s on everybody individually. The term is corfing, which is to deflect yourself away from things when things begin to go badly. That’s the thing that you have to fight as much as anything else. We got to internalize it and determine, what can we do as individuals to make it better? And we all got to pull the rope in the same direction.”
Q: How do you balance making changes and staying the course?
A: “Well, I don’t think you change your overall philosophy, your overall values. But, yeah, there’s things within that that you can change. Personnel maybe, could be a situation where you might make some changes. Just the way you call the game, there might be some changes. But, your core values and what you believe in, of being tough, being smart, being disciplined; those things aren’t going to change.”
Q: Are you contemplating any personnel changes?
A: “Well, we’re going to look at everything. I don’t think you go through and say, ‘We’re 3-7 and everything is OK.’ We got to see what we can do to get better.”
Q: Are you going to look at the younger players more from here on out?
A: “That’s obviously a potential and we’ve done that some. Tony Bergstrom got a lot of playing time, or some playing time, the other day, mostly as a tight end. But he’s a guy we’re looking at. Christo Bilukidi got some playing time inside. Miles Burris has played a lot for us this year. Rod Streater and Juron Criner both have played for us this year. We’re going to look at young guys.”
Q: How are things looking on the injury fron moving forward?
A: “Hopefully we’ll get some of those guys back. Listen, everybody deals with injuries. It’s something that you can’t run from. It happens. You can’t use that as an excuse. If we can get our guys back and healthy that will be good for us.”
Q: You inherited a bad situation, do you have enough good players to win right now?
A: “I firmly believe that. When you look at it the other way around, that’s an excuse, that’s a crutch to say you can’t get it done. I don’t believe in that. I believe that we have professional football players and I believe we can win games in the National Football League. That’s what we get paid to do, that’s our job. I’m not going to use anything as a crutch to say that’s the reason why.”
Q: Is McFadden coming back this week?
A: “I’m hopeful. All those guys that didn’t practice last week, they’re all rehabbing extremely hard. We’ll see where they’re at.”
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November 19th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
2013
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1. Pass rush
2. D
3. D
4. Wr
5. OL
November 19th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Do you guys think DA ever wishes he had stayed in Denver, where he’d have Manning to take the pressure off the defense and could get high whenever he liked?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
He’d probably also get free pizza whenever he wanted, because Manning owns a bunch of Papa John’s franchises as part of his endorsement deal.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
John Gruden isn’t coming anywhere near a building team , he took talented Raiders teams to players and talented Bucs team to playoffs,also the main reason both teams went into gutter after his tenure there, never developed young players at both places and when the older players eventually got too old or retired, both franchises went spiraling down
November 19th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
All I’m saying is that if I were Allen, I would definitely be thinking about these things.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
DJ im with u man. CRINER is being slept on. That dude has mad talent. Has the Vertical jump and catches everyting like he has velcro on his gloves. That guys is gonna be a player.
BURRIS is another man child. Everyone was talking crapp on him yesterday but he is a ROOKIE playing in a new scheme. When he rushes the passer look out.. that guy brings it.
I have faith in REGGIE. DA not so much. KNAPP ZERO
November 19th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
near a Rebuilding team ***
November 19th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
playoffs not players**
November 19th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
DA is in over his head and has been put on notice.
Mark Davis has Gruden back to light the torch, and grants this interview where he states he’s not happy. Hmm…
November 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Mac20 how can you say all the coaches except da & tarver need to get fired but we dont have a coaching problem?? Makes 0.0 sense
November 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Deniss Allen “HEY LISTEN’ “LISTEN” ” NO LISTEN……..”
uh this is ur first rodeo son. You need to call hue Jackson for help
November 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
He’d probably also get free pizza whenever he wanted, because Manning owns a bunch of Papa John’s franchises as part of his endorsement deal.
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Papa John CEO is a big Republican Donor.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
John Gruden isn’t coming anywhere near a building team , he took talented Raiders teams to players and talented Bucs team to playoffs,also the main reason both teams went into gutter after his tenure there, never developed young players at both places and when the older players eventually got too old or retired, both franchises went spiraling down
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Lol. Did you forget he inherited a 4-12 team in his stint with us and improved it right away by 4 games? DA didn’t even inherit a losing team! But he sure made us one. FAIL
November 19th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Mac20 how can you say all the coaches except da & tarver need to get fired but we dont have a coaching problem?? Makes 0.0 sense
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Cuz Special teams have regressed, O has regressed, so both should be fired, DA and Tarver need a good offseason aquiring D talent to work that side around
November 19th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
John Gruden isn’t coming anywhere near a building team , he took talented Raiders teams to players and talented Bucs team to playoffs,also the main reason both teams went into gutter after his tenure there, never developed young players at both places and when the older players eventually got too old or retired, both franchises went spiraling down
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Lol. Did you forget he inherited a 4-12 team in his stint with us and improved it right away by 4 games? DA didn’t even inherit a losing team! But he sure made us one. FAIL
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I know he inherited a 4-12 team and a team that only had 1 more losing season in last 10 before he took over, you know those teams were stacked with Talent they just needed some leadership , this isn’t a team stacked with talent, there’s no Tim Brown, C Woodson , D RUsseL, C Mcklokton , last years 8-8 record is fooling you guys, we weren’t really that good , just happened to have some weak teams that we took care of , not so many weak teams on the schedule this year
November 19th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
…Palmer will take a pay cut get real he is not going anywhere you heard what Mark Davis said about him.
Get over it already are you tards that desperate for something to talk about?
I admire Palmer for staying here knowing this was a total rebuild putting his head down and working diligently doing what the coaches ask of him.
Next year he and D Moore are going to light it up I am thinking 1800 yards for D Moore if it all works out.
We should get a high draft pick which we will trade down for several more picks. Cast offs should get sent packing yielding us another 2 or 3 draft picks all in all I would say by draft day in April Reggie will have accumulated 10 draft picks.
With that he will go about fixing the O-Line and the entire defense. If Palmer can get the amount of time Brees and Brady are getting back there to throw and we have a real running game established next year he will light up the sky and we will win the division
November 19th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH…The team sucks. That’s all you have to say, Denny.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
14.. yeah.. thats a coaching problem
November 19th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
…Palmer will take a pay cut get real he is not going anywhere you heard what Mark Davis said about him.
Get over it already are you tards that desperate for something to talk about?
I admire Palmer for staying here knowing this was a total rebuild putting his head down and working diligently doing what the coaches ask of him.
Next year he and D Moore are going to light it up I am thinking 1800 yards for D Moore if it all works out.
We should get a high draft pick which we will trade down for several more picks. Cast offs should get sent packing yielding us another 2 or 3 draft picks all in all I would say by draft day in April Reggie will have accumulated 10 draft picks.
With that he will go about fixing the O-Line and the entire defense. If Palmer can get the amount of time Brees and Brady are getting back there to throw and we have a real running game established next year he will light up the sky and we will win the division
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D Moore isn’t going to become #1 ,i wouldn’t call him #2 either , Next year we should get D BOWE, and hope Streeter becomes # 2 , DHB,MOORE AND CRINER can all fight for 3-4-5 spots
November 19th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
D0A IS A DEAD MAN WALKING.
I THINK HE KNOWS HES GONE….
November 19th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
14.. yeah.. thats a coaching problem
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Just a bad hire by DA in his first go around , i would give him chance to correct his mistake next year and work with better players on D
November 19th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Even da knows its his fault.. he killed 2 out of 3 phases of the game…
November 19th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
This season was a complete waste.
Threw out two decent 8-8 seasons which could be built upon.
Ok, so cap nightmare had it so that you couldn’t add much talent.
Wouldn’t you then, knowing that in advance, get veteran coaches rather than rookies and failures?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
plop
November 19th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Head coaches who hire idiots normally dont have long careers.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Ofcourse DA isn’t just going to say we lack talent straight up , every one knows we lack talent , you guys are so stuck in the ass of last years 8-8 record and you guys fail to realize that we came off a year in which 1 we couldn’t bring 1 game changer to this team , our draft pick was in the 4th rd, while other 31 teams , enjoy signing players because of cap space and drafting players in the first 3 rounds
November 19th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Da is it a lack of talent?? No. The end
The d is weak.. playoffs were unlikely.. but this is rediculous
November 19th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Head coaches who hire idiots normally dont have long careers.
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Well there’s always reasons guys struggle in their first years, B Belichick, B W are some of the coaches who have won multiple titles that come to the mind
November 19th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Q: Thoughts on Mark Davis’ comments that this team has regressed?
#PalmersFault
Q: Is the talent level on this team 3-7, and if not, why isn’t it?
#PalmersFault
Q: Are guys executing things properly in practice and it’s not carrying over to the game, or are there problems during the week?
#PalmersFault
Q: Lot of talk training camp, things being done differently, guys signing in for meetings and detail and discipline things that were brought in help turn things around. Any slippage in that area at all?
#PalmersFault
Q: How do you keep your players focused and from mailing it in? How much of that is on you, on the players?
#PalmersFault
Q: You inherited a bad situation, do you have enough good players to win right now?
#PalmersFault
November 19th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
It is what it is , our team s*cks, has been s8cking for 10 years running now, D has struggled since 2002 , besides a 2 year run where our Run game was a beast and we beat up on the weak teams on the schedule or sweep the division once , we haven’t done nothing, we won’t do sh1t until more check cashers are cut and we bring in real players
November 19th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
DA can’t say he doesn’t have talent, because he’ll lose the locker room. The owner can and did say that.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
If Hue was here and we struggled some of you guys would have been calling for Reg head and wondering why didn’t he go with a new coach , we knew he sucks after the way he finished season on 1-4 run , etc , etc , it’s getting ridiculous, i would have supported Hue this year too , cuz i know where the main problems lie, but some of you guys would never admit that, instead it’s Palmers fault or this guys fault , etc etc
November 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
DA: “But a win turns everything around. A win makes everybody feel a lot better. And that’s what we need to do.”
Thats all good and fine if youre 0-2 or 0-3. At this point, its going to take a lot more than a simple “win” to turn things around. Im sorry, one victory against the Bengals is not going to make me forget how horrible this team has looked. To me, its simple. If DA does not end up with at least 8 wins this season, he does not DESERVE another season.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
John Gruden isn’t coming anywhere near a building team , he took talented Raiders teams to players and talented Bucs team to playoffs,also the main reason both teams went into gutter after his tenure there, never developed young players at both places and when the older players eventually got too old or retired, both franchises went spiraling down
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Lol. Did you forget he inherited a 4-12 team in his stint with us and improved it right away by 4 games? DA didn’t even inherit a losing team! But he sure made us one. FAIL
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I know he inherited a 4-12 team and a team that only had 1 more losing season in last 10 before he took over, you know those teams were stacked with Talent they just needed some leadership , this isn’t a team stacked with talent, there’s no Tim Brown, C Woodson , D RUsseL, C Mcklokton , last years 8-8 record is fooling you guys, we weren’t really that good , just happened to have some weak teams that we took care of , not so many weak teams on the schedule this year
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It’s easy to say we don’t have talent when we’re looking this bad, but get a coach in here that can put his players in position to succeed and you’d be crowing about our talent. DMoore and DHB showed promise last year. The Palmer to DHB connection was lethal. DMAC behind last year’s line? Fogetaboutit!
But now we don’t have talent? These guys all came back down to earth after playing out of their skin? That what you’re saying?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I have Faith in REG , DA, Tarver, rest can go into garbage, Kelly, Seymour, Mcfadden, Branch , Mcclain can go to garbage, need some young blood at DT, need real pass rushers at DE, need real safeties and need real CB’s
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You may want to change your handle?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
This season was a complete waste.
Threw out two decent 8-8 seasons which could be built upon.
Ok, so cap nightmare had it so that you couldn’t add much talent.
Wouldn’t you then, knowing that in advance, get veteran coaches rather than rookies and failures?
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I think Marc and Co. knew and were acceptable to the fact that this could take 2-3 years to right the ship. I really don’t think they are looking to build off of what we had last year. And it’s pretty evident.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I don’t buy the check casher argument. The league is full of check cashers. For every one “Rudy” there are 10 guys who play cause they love the game and because they can play and happened to get paid a lot of money to do it.
With better coaching and more playmakers, the check cashers would look a lot better. Kelly, the most famous (or infamous, LOL?) check casher was a pro bowl alternate two years with Richard playing next to him inside and many NFL people consider him the best UT in football.
So it all depends on who is here.
Is a guy a check casher or is he just frustrated cause he’s done nothing but lose?
CP is out there getting clobbered and still battling pretty hard, but he quit on Cincy because of the loser mentality and inmates-run-the-asylum culture. He a check casher?
Or just a fed up football player tired of losing?
I would have liked to see us build rather than blow it up.
Funny thing is….. I think they were TRYING to build on 2011.
Soon as they hired Knapp I knew it was all fcked but I figured another 8-8 cause defense would keep us in games.
Joke’s on me.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Allen is easily the most boring interview the Raiders have ever had.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
John Gruden isn’t coming anywhere near a building team , he took talented Raiders teams to players and talented Bucs team to playoffs,also the main reason both teams went into gutter after his tenure there, never developed young players at both places and when the older players eventually got too old or retired, both franchises went spiraling down
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Lol. Did you forget he inherited a 4-12 team in his stint with us and improved it right away by 4 games? DA didn’t even inherit a losing team! But he sure made us one. FAIL
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I know he inherited a 4-12 team and a team that only had 1 more losing season in last 10 before he took over, you know those teams were stacked with Talent they just needed some leadership , this isn’t a team stacked with talent, there’s no Tim Brown, C Woodson , D RUsseL, C Mcklokton , last years 8-8 record is fooling you guys, we weren’t really that good , just happened to have some weak teams that we took care of , not so many weak teams on the schedule this year
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It’s easy to say we don’t have talent when we’re looking this bad, but get a coach in here that can put his players in position to succeed and you’d be crowing about our talent. DMoore and DHB showed promise last year. The Palmer to DHB connection was lethal. DMAC behind last year’s line? Fogetaboutit!
But now we don’t have talent? These guys all came back down to earth after playing out of their skin? That what you’re saying?
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DMac is never healthy more than 50% our D got worse, if you can say that, like i said man , just look at the schedule , we beaten only the below average offensive teams last year and so far we’re on par with that by beating 2 outta 3 below average O teams, Miami Loss, Jax win , KC win, don’t let the last years record fool you, we’re not talented enough to go head to head with likes Of NE,NO Saints, i don’t know what you guys think , but that’s my opinion
November 19th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I don’t buy the check casher argument. The league is full of check cashers. For every one “Rudy” there are 10 guys who play cause they love the game and because they can play and happened to get paid a lot of money to do it.
With better coaching and more playmakers, the check cashers would look a lot better. Kelly, the most famous (or infamous, LOL?) check casher was a pro bowl alternate two years with Richard playing next to him inside and many NFL people consider him the best UT in football.
So it all depends on who is here.
Is a guy a check casher or is he just frustrated cause he’s done nothing but lose?
CP is out there getting clobbered and still battling pretty hard, but he quit on Cincy because of the loser mentality and inmates-run-the-asylum culture. He a check casher?
Or just a fed up football player tired of losing?
I would have liked to see us build rather than blow it up.
Funny thing is….. I think they were TRYING to build on 2011.
Soon as they hired Knapp I knew it was all fcked but I figured another 8-8 cause defense would keep us in games.
Joke’s on me.
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I’m not referring to CP when i talk about Check Cashers, I’m only referring to guys like Seymour, Kelly, Mclain, Branch and Mcfadden
November 19th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
I wish we had hired a better OCO and Special teams , maybe just maybe we might have had a better record so far, but still i don’t see that happening with this D, this team needs another offseason to work on D, no pass rushers , no ball hawk players, no game changer, nothing
D = wins championships
Only team to beat NE in SB was NYG
NYG D >>> NE D
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I dont admire Palmer for nothing during a rebuild year. He quit on the Bengals and wanted a trade. they made one for him.
STop acting like he came here to donate his time. He is getting paid 13 million dollars this year and 15 next.
Mark davis didnt sound to thrilled with him yesterday when they asked him who should be starting qb. He said he has his opinions but will keep them to himself and said let the coaches coach. Hardly a ringing endorsement.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’m out , you guys enjoy beautiful afternoon
November 19th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
“but some of you guys would never admit that, instead it’s Palmers fault or this guys fault , etc etc”
See post #29
#PalmersFault
November 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
We were lousy when Gruden got here. Bring back Jon Gruden, Mr. Davis. You would be my hero!
November 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’m out , you guys enjoy beautiful afternoon
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Later, Goober
Be sure to tell all your pals you got owned on the blog by the one and only Beeeech Diggity Dawg. Again.
HOLLA
November 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I’m not referring to CP when i talk about Check Cashers, I’m only referring to guys like Seymour, Kelly, Mclain, Branch and Mcfadden
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McF20
Again, are they check cashers or just guys tired of losing?
I bet they would take less money to play for the Steelers, Saints, Patriots, or Giants.
To a man.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
“Mark davis didnt sound to thrilled with him yesterday when they asked him who should be starting qb. He said he has his opinions but will keep them to himself and said let the coaches coach. Hardly a ringing endorsement.”
Your a tard!!!
You forgot this part of Mark Davis quote…spin doctor
“A: “Because that’s not my place. I have plenty of confidence in Carson Palmer.””
November 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
How about Tollefson. The invisible man for real.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
If DA were any good, we would have seen it by now.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
And here is teh full quote
“Q: Is it time to give other quarterbacks a shot other than Carson Palmer?
A: “That’s up to the coaches. That’s not my decision. I have opinions but I’m not going to speak ‘em.”
Q: Why not?
A: “Because that’s not my place. I have plenty of confidence in Carson Palmer.””
you are missdik other moniker I see
November 19th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Another 300 yd passing game with 2 ints for another loss.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
How about Tollefson. The invisible man for real.
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No, I saw him standing on the sideline yesterday. He does exist.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’m out , you guys enjoy beautiful afternoon
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Later, Goober
Be sure to tell all your pals you got owned on the blog by the one and only Beeeech Diggity Dawg. Again.
HOLLA
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Way to show up after i leave turd
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I’m not referring to CP when i talk about Check Cashers, I’m only referring to guys like Seymour, Kelly, Mclain, Branch and Mcfadden
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McF20
Again, are they check cashers or just guys tired of losing?
I bet they would take less money to play for the Steelers, Saints, Patriots, or Giants.
To a man.
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But that doesn’t mean they should check out , they have to understand team is relying on them to play well to win , you can’t expect a guy barely making 1 million playing better than these guys who are taking up 25% of the pay roll
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’m out , you guys enjoy beautiful afternoon
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Later, Goober
Be sure to tell all your pals you got owned on the blog by the one and only Beeeech Diggity Dawg. Again.
HOLLA
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Way to show up after i leave turd
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How can you be here if you’ve left
Tell your pals you also screwed that one up
Classic McFartin’
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
“It would be huge”- dennis Allen
It seems coach allen agrees with me this is a legacy game for palmer. The fact that he has flopped is no longer the question, but now just how far will he sink?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Another 300 yd passing game with 2 ints for another loss.
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Hey M1stic
November 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KK, It’s hard to coach up bad talent. And there is a lot of bad talent on defense. Also, we do not have a kick or punt returner, and we have a below average offensive line. You can’t expect any better than a 3-7 record. Palmer has been good, but not great. Huey gave up too much to get him. He followed Al to a tee, and that’s why he had to go. Darrell Russell # 4 pick, Robert Gallery # 2 pick, JaBustus # 1 pick, DHB # 7 pick, Rolando # 8 pick. Do I need to go on?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’m out , you guys enjoy beautiful afternoon
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Later, Goober
Be sure to tell all your pals you got owned on the blog by the one and only Beeeech Diggity Dawg. Again.
HOLLA
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Way to show up after i leave turd
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How can you be here if you’ve left
Tell your pals you also screwed that one up
Classic McFartin’
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Well was thinking about going to get some food but instead had some left over pizza from last night… so what were you saying?
November 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Somehow, we have to find a way to stay out of the Red Zone. At all cost.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Pro Football Weekly @ProFootballWkly
Per @AdamSchefter, WR Plaxico Burress is expected to meet with the #Steelers and take a physical.
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All the Plaxico guys are going to lose their sh*t if he signs with the Steelers.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Politically/optically, The “Hair Apparent” is not gonna fire his choice for GM. Reggie is not gonna fire his coaching choice after 1 year. A scapegoat, a Coordinator maybe, and/or players will go first.
I know it’s useless to lament now because it already happened, but the more I dwell on this….I just can’t believe that Knapp got hired back and he’s the ENTIRE lynch pin to this mess that’s evolved! It wasn’t a necessary move to make and it’s blown right up in DA’s face and made it worse for him.
Replacing Al Saunders with someone else’s QB Coach who has already failed in Oakland and is gonna bring in a scheme that doesn’t suite your best players….the only thing I can arrive at is that Knapp has compromising pix and emails of influential people?! It’s the only logical explanation to an obsurd move.
This year might have evolved much differently (better) if the offense had remained in tact and DA only had to answer for the D. At a few crucial moments in a few games this year, if our offense had been able to move the ball, score a major….there MIGHT have been different outcomes. Maybe. Instead, you see McFadden failing and now injured, Palmer trying to do too much in a system he isn’t built for. Not trying to be an apologist for him, but he’s uncomfortable and pressing in a system because he knows the D is gonna give up 40 pts/game. That’s ALL on DA (and Knapp).
November 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Particularly the 1 yd line
November 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
KrappyRat, I’ve been meaning to tell you I had the greatest Beeeech Diggity weekend
On Sat I did some hilarious stand up comedy and used you as the punchline more than once. Got huge laughs.
Don’t want to spoil my material in case I get an HBO special, but believe me, it was epic
Thanks again,
Your Pal
The Beeeech Dawggy Dawg
November 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
“It would be huge”- dennis Allen
It seems coach allen agrees with me this is a legacy game for palmer. The fact that he has flopped is no longer the question, but now just how far will he sink?
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OK we get it, you already have posted that crap nobody cares about million times
November 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
At least Carson Palmer was worth giving up a 2nd and 3rd for, but not a 1st and 2nd.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Why is your handle McFadden20 if you think the dude should be gone and just cashes checks?
I would change that very soon, my man.
BTW, this is the worst Raiders team I have ever seen. Top to bottom.
Born in 71′ and have been a fan since I can remember.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Greg Knapp is what he is. That aint going to change.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’m out , you guys enjoy beautiful afternoon
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Later, Goober
Be sure to tell all your pals you got owned on the blog by the one and only Beeeech Diggity Dawg. Again.
HOLLA
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Way to show up after i leave turd
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How can you be here if you’ve left
Tell your pals you also screwed that one up
Classic McFartin’
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Well was thinking about going to get some food but instead had some left over pizza from last night… so what were you saying?
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No worries, Goob
Just means you’ll have to wait until tonight to tell your buddies how you got owned today on the blog, huh?
SHO YO RIGHT
November 19th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Unless that #17 pick was on a pass rusher,that made some difference or the money saved was put on a legit player , we would probably be sitting here , fans of the only winless team wondering what do we have to do not share the history with 0-16 Detroit
November 19th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
and how many super bowl wins does reeves have? There goesthe no talent excuse out the window, da thinks he has the talent….but nah nothing needs to change just execution….what blind, dumb soon to be ex coach…
November 19th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
No worries, Goob
Just means you’ll have to wait until tonight to tell your buddies how you got owned today on the blog, huh?
SHO YO RIGHT
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HUH?? what are you even talking about ??? owned on a blog ? LMFAO , strange fantasies you have man
November 19th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Alright Brahs, just got settled into my booth at Olive Garden and got the iPad poppin’
Taste of Tuscany is on the way and you KNOW some hella sweet turd bombs will soon follow
Already sampled some delicious Chianti, tastes like it’s from the Northern region of Languedoc-Roussillon
PUTTIN’ ON A SHOW SIPPIN’ FINE MERLOT
November 19th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Why aren’t they executing, COACH?
November 19th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
KK,
Reggie’s record as GM ?
Thanks in advance
November 19th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
75.KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Why aren’t they executing, COACH?
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Right?
These are *professional* NFL football players, as you say, and are talented enough to win now, as you say — then why aren’t they executing what you’re teaching them?
In the end, it’s not just coaching and not just talent. As is the case every year, it’s a combination.
Good coaching will get more from less, poor coaching gets less from more.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Every time I show up, the cross-posting btchs show up. Smh.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
If Houston is the model, people do have to realize that they were calling for Kubiak’s head 2 years ago. Couldn’t run, QB always hurt, awful D, conservative play calling. Another thing people have to realize is that Knapp was QB coach there and I believe Pollack was an asst. O Line coach. Which translates to nada.
I’ll give Allen the benefit of the doubt for one year. But you have to see progress. We’ve regressed.
I’ll be pleased when we do what Kubiak did. Get a great D coordinator and have a few good drafts.
And fire Knapp.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Romo said what I been saying for over a year….move Reece to TE
November 19th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Just the fact, that you consistently have trouble when 1st & goal. Turrible. Since Preseason, for Gawdsakes!
November 19th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Man, Olive Garden always gets my song writing creativity flowin’ (along with major wet dueces)
Just wrote a HELLA SWEET jam about making love to a beautiful lady while getting the high score on Tetris
It’s called “Making Love to a Beautiful Lady While Getting the High Score on Tetris”
Man, this beaver is so nice and soft
Baby let’s make love in my upscale loft
Do you mind if I also play Tetris, sound like a plan?
Then I’ll be scoring with you both, girl … hot damn
IN YO FACE, TUPAC
November 19th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I don’t buy the check casher argument. The league is full of check cashers. For every one “Rudy” there are 10 guys who play cause they love the game and because they can play and happened to get paid a lot of money to do it.
With better coaching and more playmakers, the check cashers would look a lot better. Kelly, the most famous (or infamous, LOL?) check casher was a pro bowl alternate two years with Richard playing next to him inside and many NFL people consider him the best UT in football.
So it all depends on who is here.
Is a guy a check casher or is he just frustrated cause he’s done nothing but lose?
CP is out there getting clobbered and still battling pretty hard, but he quit on Cincy because of the loser mentality and inmates-run-the-asylum culture. He a check casher?
Or just a fed up football player tired of losing?
I would have liked to see us build rather than blow it up.
Funny thing is….. I think they were TRYING to build on 2011.
Soon as they hired Knapp I knew it was all fcked but I figured another 8-8 cause defense would keep us in games.
Joke’s on me.
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I’m not referring to CP when i talk about Check Cashers, I’m only referring to guys like Seymour, Kelly, Mclain, Branch and Mcfadden
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Why are those guys check cashers and Palmer isn’t?
November 19th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
2 of our 8 wins came against good offensive teams, HOU, AND SD. So stop with we didnt beat any good offensive teams crap.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Now, you people can make yourselves happy by hating on J Campbell tonight.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Reggie’s record as GM 3-7
Right KK ?
November 19th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
The Raiders right now are rudderless. They have no identity, no confidence in any area of their game. How do you know where to start to fix it? They could have had a compentent offense as a basis to start building something, but that got screwed up.
Is it players? Coaches? How do you know when the personnel gets changed all the time?
People have been mentioning all the “busts” in the last several drafts. Maybe these young players might have developed better if they weren’t learning new playbooks every year from a new/different coaching staff? Who knows?
If they had left the offense alone from last year and focused on the D, I don’t think there’d be such frustration out there with DA and his short comings so far.
I’m not suggsting the 8-8 for the last two years Raiders teams were world beaters patiently waiting to be unleashed at the Superbowl with the right Coach. I am saying that if Reggie and DA had had the courage to give credit to and utilize players and ideas from the previous regime, I think this season would be going a lot better and it would not have interfered with any essential restructuring to the organization off the field for long term success.
At the very least, the fans deserved to see a better product on the field immediately.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Reggie’s record as GM 3-7
Right KK ?
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Go follow somebody else around dumbass.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Oline is the biggest need on this team period and the reason being we have gone up against some of the worst run D in the league and still wasnt able to get the run game going. CP3 has benn getting killed every game he wont last much longer behind that pass protection. We must protect our investment(CP3) and get our run game back where it was, everything else comes second.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
It’s Knapp’s fault….
November 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Hey Listen!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Reggie himself stated that all his coaches are under contract and aren’t going anywhere. I wouldn’t even consider it an issue until offseason.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
I think I just corfed in my pants.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Soup will sink or swim on his own merits. I say he gets all nervous with the Smith twins lighting him up high/low all noght.
But what I want to see is Colin Kaepernick. Kid is fun to watch play the game of football….
November 19th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Mistic and all other JC supporters, their is no excuse for ya boy tonight, he is on a good team, good run game, good D, good WRs. NO EXCUSES.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Oline is the biggest need on this team period and the reason being we have gone up against some of the worst run D in the league and still wasnt able to get the run game going. CP3 has benn getting killed every game he wont last much longer behind that pass protection. We must protect our investment(CP3) and get our run game back where it was, everything else comes second.
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The O line didn’t drop passes in the end zone or allow WR to run uncovered all over the defensive backfield all day. Plus they allowed Reece to gain 100 yds rushing. This crummy defense that has given up over 120 points in the last 3 games is where the biggest problem lies.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Here’s an obvious WHAT IF….?
What if Palmer’s VERY accurate pass DOESN’T bounce off our most reliable receiver’s hands into the arms of RHarper and it’s a 7-7 ballgame halfway through the first Q?
Do we STILL get lit up or do we make a game of it?
November 19th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Still can’t score from the 1 yd line.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
I don’t believe Soup will finish the game tonight.
He spiraled into an injury-prone QB while he was with us.
Hurt in preseason, hurt in the Pitt game, hurt in the Jax game of 2011, IR’d in 2012.
Bears O-line is worse than ours.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
JLofty Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Here’s an obvious WHAT IF….?
What if Palmer’s VERY accurate pass DOESN’T bounce off our most reliable receiver’s hands into the arms of RHarper and it’s a 7-7 ballgame halfway through the first Q?
Do we STILL get lit up or do we make a game of it?
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We still get lit up. This defense stinks out loud.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
What does jc playing for the bears have to do with palmer flopping in oakland?
It cant be argued that jc was the far better raider qb, and that is the only thing i will debate about the two.
What Jc does as a bear is inconsequential unless you are a jc fan or bears fan.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I want to see Kappy throw some fastballs tonight.
He was drafted as a pitcher out of HS, and supposedly was clocking in at 90+mph.
World-class arm. Him, Jake Locker and Joe Flacco probably have the 3 strongest arms in the sport.
Vick a few years ago would be in the mix, but I think he has lost a little off the fastball, as all 30 something QB’s do.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
JC will prove to every one why he was holding clip boards tonight
November 19th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Hurt in preseason, hurt in the Pitt game, hurt in the Jax game of 2011, IR’d in 2012.
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2010 and 2011, wrong years
November 19th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
If J.C had no running game, we would have won 5-6 games max.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Oline is the biggest need on this team period and the reason being we have gone up against some of the worst run D in the league and still wasnt able to get the run game going. CP3 has benn getting killed every game he wont last much longer behind that pass protection. We must protect our investment(CP3) and get our run game back where it was, everything else comes second.
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The O line didn’t drop passes in the end zone or allow WR to run uncovered all over the defensive backfield all day. Plus they allowed Reece to gain 100 yds rushing. This crummy defense that has given up over 120 points in the last 3 games is where the biggest problem lies.
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We have problems everywhere, but as the saying goes if you cant run and stop the run you wont win, and we,ve played all the worst teams when it comes to giving up rush yards and we didnt take advantage, we are not a good running team we need to draft the center from ALA and draft another RT and get our line in tip top shape then move on to our D line. once again as the saying goes games are won/lost in the trenches.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
If J.C had no running game, we would have won 5-6 games max.
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maybe like 2 games or none
November 19th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
In 2010, Campbell completed 8 of 21 passes for 83 yards, threw two interceptions and posted a career-low 10.7 rating in the Raiders’ 17-9 loss at Candlestick.
I only care about what Soup did (or didn’t do) last time he was at Candlestick….sucked it.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
I’ll co-sign that EOR. I hope the Reg believes the same…
November 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
What does jc playing for the bears have to do with palmer flopping in oakland?
It cant be argued that jc was the far better raider qb, and that is the only thing i will debate about the two.
What Jc does as a bear is inconsequential unless you are a jc fan or bears fan.
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LOL, already back peddling huh, JC is not a better qb than CP3 if CP3 was on the Bears they would win tonight which I hope they do btw but with JC and his famous check down play I dont kno, Ill be looking to see haw many passes BMarshall catches.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
KK, if he plays like he did the last time in SF against an 0-5 team, you bet we will be giving it to you Soup lovers! He is not good and if he can’t outplay a rookie, he should retire!
November 19th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Filed to ESPN: Free-agent WR Plaxico Burress is expected to go to Pittsburgh to meet with and take a physical for the Steelers. Need WR help
There goes what could have been our red zone target.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Mistic, you know absolutely nothing about the QB position if you believe Campbell is better than Palmer. 99 out of 100 people will tell you that!
November 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Every time I show up, the cross-posting btchs show up. Smh.
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Needy, pathetic, and clingy? party of one, your table is ready.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
We still get lit up. This defense stinks out loud.
101.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
What does jc playing for the bears have to do with palmer flopping in oakland?
It cant be argued that jc was the far better raider qb, and that is the only thing i will debate about the two.
What Jc does as a bear is inconsequential unless you are a jc fan or bears fan.
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Actually, you didn’t say JC was not just better, you said that JC was an “elite” QB in the NFL. BTW, I know you group all of us white folk together, but I never said Palmer was elite. Thought he was better than JC in “most” areas and would be able to ride on the back of a team with a good running game.
Personally, I am pulling for JC and the Bears tonight against the Whiners. Comp pick for the Raiders (JC and Bush), Whiner loss and I have a number of FF players on the Bears.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
has reggie been fired yet?
November 19th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
A running game is any qbs best friend, name a SB team that didnt have a decent run game, its the only reason Elway won a SB and the only reason Dan Marino never did.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
What does jc playing for the bears have to do with palmer flopping in oakland?
It cant be argued that jc was the far better raider qb, and that is the only thing i will debate about the two.
What Jc does as a bear is inconsequential unless you are a jc fan or bears fan.
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LOL, already back peddling huh, JC is not a better qb than CP3 if CP3 was on the Bears
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hardly back pedaling, im simply not interested in your make believe scenarios.
Jc won here palmer doesnt, Jc was far better here in my opinion because of this among other things. Endo of story
November 19th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
hardly back pedaling, im simply not interested in your make believe scenarios.
Jc won here palmer doesnt, Jc was far better here in my opinion because of this among other things. Endo of story
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Well keep your theory to yourself then , nobody cares what you have to say , the whole blog believes Palmer is better than JC
November 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
LOL, JC is ya boy and he is probably gonna look bad tonight so now you want to save face, its good folks, but if he by some miracle does have a good game we’ll see what you say then.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
“Mistic and all other JC supporters, their is no excuse for ya boy tonight, he is on a good team, good run game, good D, good WRs. NO EXCUSES.”
LMAO poor soup
November 19th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
The first time JC gets hit, you people will wet your panties. Despite getting blown out yesterday
November 19th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
LOL, JC is ya boy and he is probably gonna look bad tonight so now you want to save face, its good folks, but if he by some miracle does have a good game we’ll see what you say then.
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He might win 3-0 today and we will start seeing him compared to the greatest of all times after that
November 19th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
“Mistic, you know absolutely nothing about the QB position if you believe Campbell is better than Palmer. 99 out of 100 people will tell you that!”
He knows this but the poor old goat is to stubborn to admit it!
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Haters gotta hate.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Filed to ESPN: Free-agent WR Plaxico Burress is expected to go to Pittsburgh to meet with and take a physical for the Steelers. Need WR help
There goes what could have been our red zone target.
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yep, could have helped us..wouldnt have cost us more than a 1 year deal at a bargain basement price.
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
122.KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
The first time JC gets hit, you people will wet your panties. Despite getting blown out yesterday
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So you agree with Mistic that JC is an elite QB and that he is hands down better than Palmer?
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
have we hired david shaw or jon gruden yet? reggie what the fu#k is a matter with you?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Haters gotta hate.
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Old Troll, are you drunk again?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
DA I don’t understand. You were all smiles when you were getting your a$$ handed to you by your former boss in Denver. Now your frustrated? Not buying it……worse than that this team isn’t buying it.
You inherited an 8-8 team that lost its GM, replaced its starting QB with a guy that had been sitting on his couch watching games for months and lost their starting RB (who was having a career season) to injury.
You took that team and created a dumpster fire.
Consistantly pathetic coaching.
University of Tenn. has an opening, you might want to look into that.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
122.KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
The first time JC gets hit, you people will wet your panties. Despite getting blown out yesterday
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So you agree with Mistic that JC is an elite QB and that he is hands down better than Palmer?
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Did I say that dumbass? Don’t put words into my mouth. I speak for myself.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
All I know is that if CP dons leather chaps with that mustache of his he’s got a second career in the movies. Leinart can be his boy wonder.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
117. Hate to say it but the Tampa Bay Bucs in 2002 didn’t have a great running game. Michael Pittman was an average running back, likewise Brad Johnston at QB, and we know how their season ended up. Won most games on a dominating defense who kept the games close for their average offense to squeak by, almost like the 2000 Baltimore Ravens with Trent Dilfer at QB, difference is not only did he have a great defense, but he also had Jamal Lewis.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I hope the Bears get killed tonight.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Folks Dennis Allen is not a bad coach, he is green and he is learning the ropes of how to be a HC. The first thing is his coaches are letting him down, the position coaches aren’t producing the desired results. But the bottom line is he is responsible for it all. Young coaches have a hard time especially when they hire their friends, of making their friends do what it takes to win instead of sticking with their own phylosophies.
It’s a shame because I think DA has potential to be a very good HC but he hired his friends and that makes for a difficult situation. He needs to remove himself from the relationship of a friend and approach the situation as if he’s the boss and they are his assistants…………..period
Knapp has let him down as well as Tarver. And the ST’s coach now he has to light a fire under these guys or show them the door.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Whats funny is even M1stic doesn’t really believe JC is better than CP , otherwise he would have flat out called tonights game going to game of JC’s career lol
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I hope the Bears get killed tonight.
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So you can suck up to biachi’s teet again? Pathetic.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
All I know is that if CP dons leather chaps with that mustache of his he’s got a second career in the movies. Leinart can be his boy wonder.
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You see Aaron Rodgers yesterday? He has a serious porn star mustache.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
palmer worshipers are grasping repeatedly, trying to attach some feeling to what jc does as qb of the bears.
Sad, but predictable. Palmer is the raider qb fro or better or worse( mainly worse) and he has been a major down grade next to what Jc did here.
7-13 33 turnovers in 20 games, palmer is miserable
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
131.KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
122.KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
The first time JC gets hit, you people will wet your panties. Despite getting blown out yesterday
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So you agree with Mistic that JC is an elite QB and that he is hands down better than Palmer?
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Did I say that dumbass? Don’t put words into my mouth. I speak for myself.
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Moron, I asked you a question. Either answer yes or no. I was seeeking your opinion, if it was a statement, it would not have a “?” on the end. Unless you do not have an opinion, or you have a opinion and you don’t want to hurt Mistic’s feelings.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I hope the Bears get killed tonight.
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So you can suck up to biachi’s teet again? Pathetic.
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That doesn’t even make sense. You really are terrible at telling jokes. Put down the mike Seymour. You’ll never make it as a stand up comic.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
KrappyRat, does the wife get pissed when you show up at her job drunk and carrying on like a mental patient?
You’d think she’d require her chauffeur to be stone cold sober and acting respectful and such
Just some things to think about, old goat
holla
November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Ha!! Rodgers too!!! I have him in my fantasy league!!! HAHAHAHA!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
*mic
November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I wonder how many pick six’s Campbell throws tonight.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
bashing palmer is similar to bashing romo or stafford or flacco or matt ryan. the guys aren’t elite, but who are you gna get that’s better? Drew brees, Big ben, rodgers, the mannings, and brady aren’t free agents, and andrew luck or rgIII’s only come around once every 10 years.
geno smith has lost 5 straight, yes part of the “new wave”
barkley has lost 4 games this year with easily the best wr tandem in college football
best available free agent qb is joe flacco, ravens will re-sign him.
matt leinert is a backup, pryor is kaepernick
but you know who else if a free agent? you guessed it, jason campbell!
November 19th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Folks Dennis Allen is not a bad coach, he is green and he is learning the ropes of how to be a HC. The first thing is his coaches are letting him down, the position coaches aren’t producing the desired results. But the bottom line is he is responsible for it all. Young coaches have a hard time especially when they hire their friends, of making their friends do what it takes to win instead of sticking with their own phylosophies.
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I agree. Dennis Allen is doing what most good coaches do which is let his guys coach. And they HAVE let him down. Then he and Reggie have to evaluate what they have here. lst on the chopping block: Mike Mitchell. As I have been saying for 2 years on this blog, that guy just is not an NFL caliber player.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
almost like the 2000 Baltimore Ravens with Trent Dilfer at QB, difference is not only did he have a great defense, but he also had Jamal Lewis.
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Funny and Jamal Lewis’s backup, Priest Holmes…before he blew up for the Queefs.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
palmer worshipers are grasping repeatedly, trying to attach some feeling to what jc does as qb of the bears.
Sad, but predictable. Palmer is the raider qb fro or better or worse( mainly worse) and he has been a major down grade next to what Jc did here.
7-13 33 turnovers in 20 games, palmer is miserable
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You just attached JC’s performance as a Raider to Palmer’s performance. You are such a dumb ass hypocrite.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
palmer worshipers are grasping repeatedly, trying to attach some feeling to what jc does as qb of the bears.
Sad, but predictable. Palmer is the raider qb fro or better or worse( mainly worse) and he has been a major down grade next to what Jc did here.
7-13 33 turnovers in 20 games, palmer is miserable
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Carson Palmer was not a “downgrade” to what JC was doing here.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Palmer is better than JC , i don’t know why some haters get so butt hurt over that , could it have to do with their skin colors?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I wonder how many pick six’s Campbell throws tonight.
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Probably not many since he is too afraid to throw the ball more than 5 yards.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I could never pull for the 9ers to win even if they played the Broncos and if they beat them it meant the Raiders go to the playoffs, just cant do it it is embedded in my dna.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
kell, priest and mistic seem to believe JC>CP and they also seem to believe in Reggie. So how come Reggie doesn’t sign JC in the offseason to be the starter here, shouldn’t cost too much?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
KoolKell Says: Every time I show up, the cross-posting btchs show up. Smh.=================================================
Easy solution. Don’t show up.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
palmer worshipers are grasping repeatedly, trying to attach some feeling to what jc does as qb of the bears.
Sad, but predictable. Palmer is the raider qb fro or better or worse( mainly worse) and he has been a major down grade next to what Jc did here.
7-13 33 turnovers in 20 games, palmer is miserable
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You just attached JC’s performance as a Raider to Palmer’s performance. You are such a dumb ass hypocrite.
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i compared them as raiders.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I could never pull for the 9ers to win even if they played the Broncos and if they beat them it meant the Raiders go to the playoffs, just cant do it it is embedded in my dna.
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Same with me. I hope the Whiners get crushed, the power goes out again and gang members beat hapless Whiner fan sensless and take their crackers and brie.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
We know if JC was young or have less than 3 years experience Mistic would have came here and told us to watch the next wave of future QB , and if he JC had lost he would have just said oh he’s just a rookie or sophomore etc etc, can’t make those excuses thats why Mistic hasn’t claimed a victory for JC yet
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Inonewordraider nice post
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I have a few friends going to the 49ers game tonight and they didn’t like this line about Kaepernick
Let’s see how Gonzo from Turdlock performs…..
HAHAHAHA
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
nonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
kell, priest and mistic seem to believe JC>CP and they also seem to believe in Reggie. So how come Reggie doesn’t sign JC in the offseason to be the starter here, shouldn’t cost too much?
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Good question. Maybe because 99.99% of football people think Jason Campbell sucks.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
prediction:
if kaepernick wins mistic will tout kaepernick (even though he didn’t like him out of college), and have plenty of excuses for JC. Don’t think the bears will lose tho, plus i have the bears in a parlay getting 6.5 points
November 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Seymour Bush I disagree MM34 is an NFL player. He is being used wrong I watch that kid he loves the game and has ability. But you hav eto KNOW WHAT HE DOES WELL. It’s the same with Reece for this coaching staff to go 7 weeks before exploiting that kind of talent is derolict. That IMO is a firable offense especially the way DMC was playing they just aren’t USING the talent right………….period
Everybody in here hated Rolando they said he had no NFL talent didn’t need to be in the NFL. Well I watched this kid play the last two weeks and I see a outstanding talent who just wasn’t inspired and focused. Yes it was the players fault but the COACH couldn’t get him in gear for whatever reason.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
palmer worshipers are grasping repeatedly, trying to attach some feeling to what jc does as qb of the bears.
Sad, but predictable. Palmer is the raider qb fro or better or worse( mainly worse) and he has been a major down grade next to what Jc did here.
7-13 33 turnovers in 20 games, palmer is miserable
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whats sad is how your back peddling faster than Deon Sanders in his prime.LOL.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Palmer is better than JC , i don’t know why some haters get so butt hurt over that , could it have to do with their skin colors?
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race baiting again?
palmer criticism doesnt equal race hate
This does however
“black qb’s suck they only win with a running game”
your words
November 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Why wasn’t missdik and his crew of derelicts in here last night talking up Leftwitch…..because HE SUCKS!!!!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: It cant be argued that jc was the far better raider qb, and that is the only thing i will debate about the two.================================================
What category are you using this time, Miss Tick? Wins, Yds, Yds per pass, Completions, Completions per game, Completion percentage, just so we know how you rate QB’s?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
prediction:
if kaepernick wins mistic will tout kaepernick (even though he didn’t like him out of college), and have plenty of excuses for JC. Don’t think the bears will lose tho, plus i have the bears in a parlay getting 6.5 points
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your right, if JC had less than 3 years experience he would have flat out called a bears victory tonight , so either he would have gloated about it after the game or he would have been like no he’s still young , Palmer have 10 years etc etc
November 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
No make believe needed. Reggie McKenzie, a well respected talent evaluator, could have kept Soup for far less than Palmer is making. He chose not to. Picks be damned. No GM worth his salt gives up on a player he sees as better and cheaper just because they gave up more to get the other guy, so you can save that argument for someone gullible enough to believe it.
Reggie says Palmer > Soup and is willing to pay twice as much.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
prediction:
if kaepernick wins mistic will tout kaepernick (even though he didn’t like him out of college), and have plenty of excuses for JC. Don’t think the bears will lose tho, plus i have the bears in a parlay getting 6.5 points
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I like kappy, i have tp6 rated higher though. kappy can be a bit erratic and tends to leave the pocket to soon. his mechanics cost him efficient accuracy at times.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
kell, priest and mistic seem to believe JC>CP and they also seem to believe in Reggie. So how come Reggie doesn’t sign JC in the offseason to be the starter here, shouldn’t cost too much?
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Son keep my name out this because you are wrong on all counts. Just speak for yourself please.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Yo Brahs, you probably all heard by now how the Beeeech Dawg almost burned his pubes off
Almost a sad tale, my friends.
However, with a little bit of luck I avoided disaster and just now scheduled a brand new pube ‘do with Japanese legend Hawakashiro!
Amazing the Dawg got an appt. on such short notice, guess that’s what separates the Boyz from the Men
November 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
prediction:
if kaepernick wins mistic will tout kaepernick (even though he didn’t like him out of college), and have plenty of excuses for JC. Don’t think the bears will lose tho, plus i have the bears in a parlay getting 6.5 points
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I like kappy, i have tp6 rated higher though. kappy can be a bit erratic and tends to leave the pocket to soon. his mechanics cost him efficient accuracy at times.
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LMAO the guy talks like a NFL scout yet knows nothing about QB position
November 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
kell, priest and mistic seem to believe JC>CP and they also seem to believe in Reggie. So how come Reggie doesn’t sign JC in the offseason to be the starter here, shouldn’t cost too much?
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wrong on all counts, you said jc is at least as good as cp, have you changed your mind? and are you not a believer in reggie, correct me if i’m wrong
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Seymour Bush I disagree MM34 is an NFL player. He is being used wrong I watch that kid he loves the game and has ability. But you hav eto KNOW WHAT HE DOES WELL.
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What does he do well? Watching the NO receiver run RIGHT BY HIM with 40 seconds to go in the half of a close game made me want to run up to him and kick him. Fire up the waiver wire. Dude cannot play at this level.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I notice you never respond to me Miss Tick. Haven’t I said anything that you saved to quote and accuse me of what you do. How big is that file, now? After months of laying the foundation.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Yo Dennis – Corfing has a couple definitions – might want to read up http://m.urbandictionary.com/#define?term=corfing
November 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@146: SIGN SOUP!!! Time to get a “REAL” QB in here!
Omg, I could just picture the sour/pouty look on Soup’s face if he had Willie “the sieve” Smith holding up the right side. As in “why tf is Von Miller/Ngata/NonameLDE crushing me AGAIN?!?!”
Priceless.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
175.Seymour Bush Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Seymour Bush I disagree MM34 is an NFL player. He is being used wrong I watch that kid he loves the game and has ability. But you hav eto KNOW WHAT HE DOES WELL.
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What does he do well? Watching the NO receiver run RIGHT BY HIM with 40 seconds to go in the half of a close game made me want to run up to him and kick him. Fire up the waiver wire. Dude cannot play at this level.
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Maybe he meant his impact on “special teams.”
November 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Maybe he meant his impact on “special teams.”
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Good point. Once again, with the game on the line and needing to make a statement, the ST’s give up a 75 yard kickoff return to open the half? That impact?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I notice you never respond to me Miss Tick. Haven’t I said anything that you saved to quote and accuse me of what you do. How big is that file, now? After months of laying the foundation.
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You’re too damn dumb to waste time with.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Carson Palmer IMO is hands down more talented than JC but he hasn’t demonstrated it on a consistent basis. He needs to take the int’s out of his game to live up to his talent. The jury is out on Reggie because he has a lot to learn………if you wnat to know what I think……ask! Don’t tell me what I think….
November 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I notice you never respond to me Miss Tick. Haven’t I said anything that you saved to quote and accuse me of what you do. How big is that file, now? After months of laying the foundation.
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You’re too damn dumb to waste time with
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how about you kell
you suppport reggie correct?
you think JC > CP correct?
so why not sign jc to be the starter?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Same here Priestj # 182
November 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I like kappy, i have tp6 rated higher though. kappy can be a bit erratic and tends to leave the pocket to soon. his mechanics cost him efficient accuracy at times.
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C’mon Mistic I know dam well your not saying Kappy is erratic and has bad mechanics but TP6 doesnt, I’m all for tp6 as well but keep it real their pretty much in the same boat as far as that goes.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Carolina held a lead in 5 of their last 6 games before fading in the final seconds, another one of Missticks QB gems
November 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Carson Palmer IMO is hands down more talented than JC but he hasn’t demonstrated it on a consistent basis. He needs to take the int’s out of his game to live up to his talent. The jury is out on Reggie because he has a lot to learn………if you wnat to know what I think……ask! Don’t tell me what I think….
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listen priest i’m not gna go back and find posts or whatever but i know for a fact you’ve defended mistic on at least one ocassion saying cp hasn’t shown to be an upgrade over JC, as far as reggie supporting i am mistaken then
November 19th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Carson Palmer IMO is hands down more talented than JC but he hasn’t demonstrated it on a consistent basis. He needs to take the int’s out of his game to live up to his talent. The jury is out on Reggie because he has a lot to learn………if you wnat to know what I think……ask! Don’t tell me what I think….
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listen priest i’m not gna go back and find posts or whatever but i know for a fact you’ve defended mistic on at least one ocassion saying cp hasn’t shown to be an upgrade over JC, as far as reggie supporting i am mistaken then
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So what Btch? Is it a crime?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
@146: SIGN SOUP!!! Time to get a “REAL” QB in here!
Omg, I could just picture the sour/pouty look on Soup’s face if he had Willie “the sieve” Smith holding up the right side. As in “why tf is Von Miller/Ngata/NonameLDE crushing me AGAIN?!?!”
Priceless.==========================
That would be ‘Palmer’s fault’.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Carson Palmer should have at least 6 more TD’s to his total but his rec’s are letting him down. His #’s would be among the best if our rec’s were more experienced. If we had a running game he might even be better than that. He has to carry the offense and I’m not sure he’s quite good enough to do that very few are but he’s close if the rec’s were better.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Wanna know the best thing about the blog?
The Beeeeech Dawg
‘Nuff said
November 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Carson Palmer IMO is hands down more talented than JC but he hasn’t demonstrated it on a consistent basis.
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CP3 hasnt cosistently been on a good team, so he wont put up consistent good numbers. But when he had those few good teams around him in cincy he was considered elite. and he put up greater numbers than the great payton manning in 1 of those years.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
185.eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I like kappy, i have tp6 rated higher though. kappy can be a bit erratic and tends to leave the pocket to soon. his mechanics cost him efficient accuracy at times.
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C’mon Mistic I know dam well your not saying Kappy is erratic and has bad mechanics but TP6 doesnt, I’m all for tp6 as well but keep it real their pretty much in the same boat as far as that goes.
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Yeah, I wish DA would implement some “Wildcat” packages for Prior as Harbaugh has done for Kappy. It would give Prior some time to adjust to game speed and confidence like Kappy seems to have developed. Sorry, but Preseason Scrub time is not the same.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Wow Carson Palmer has been on bad teams his whole life, sniff, sniff.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
KoolKell Says: You’re too damn dumb to waste time with.=====
I get slammed by the best, don’t I?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
As far as JC ’s record and and CP’s record taking in to consideration t/o’s and games won. JC has outproduced Carson. Mistic1 is spot on when he brings up these stats no one can argue those points.
I’m talking about the Talent of the two QB’s which is a very different discussion obviously that goes over your head………..stop telling me what I think just ask.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I like kappy, i have tp6 rated higher though. kappy can be a bit erratic and tends to leave the pocket to soon. his mechanics cost him efficient accuracy at times.
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C’mon Mistic I know dam well your not saying Kappy is erratic and has bad mechanics but TP6 doesnt,
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i didnt say that.
I only said i pryor higher on my board.
For the record though pryors throwing motion looked light years better in the pre season than at any point as a buckeye.
I thought his passing showed major improvement especially in the lion game
November 19th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Carson Palmer should have at least 6 more TD’s to his total but his rec’s are letting him down. His #’s would be among the best if our rec’s were more experienced. If we had a running game he might even be better than that. He has to carry the offense and I’m not sure he’s quite good enough to do that very few are but he’s close if the rec’s were better.
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Agree.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Carson Palmer chokes in the clutch.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Dont go there with Cam that dude will be a great qb and so will RG3, Cam is just going through his sophmore slump how quickly some forget how bad Eli was his first few years in the league the “bust” term was even starting to get tossed around but the guy got better and Cam will do the same.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Q: Thoughts on Mark Davis’ comments that this team has regressed?
A: “Hey, I’m right there with him. I’m frustrated. I’m disappointed. You know, you wake up this morning and your gut hurts. But, at the same time, when a man gets knocked down and man gets up and fights. And that’s exactly what we intend to do. I understand his frustration; I can appreciate that. And let me tell you, there’s nobody that’s going to work any harder to get it corrected than I will.”
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I wonder if DA knows Mark was on pain meds and really didn’t mean it. What a fckn joke this coaching staff has become.
Quit thinkin the players are responsible and game plan for teams weakness and ways to exploit it. Even if it means sh*t canning the zbs. And get a 1-2 punch with McFadden and Reece.
Build your plan around the players, not some damned failed scheme that is never going to work. ZBS sucks, so does your D. Admit that first, then you’ll be on your way to salvaging some of whats left of the season, or the players may rally around Hue when they see him next.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says: Carson Palmer chokes in the clutch.=
Yep. Classic example yesterday when he threw that bone headed int. that he bounced off of Myer’s hands in the end zone. Love your shrewd football analysis, by the way.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Carson Palmer chokes in the clutch.
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Carson may be trying to do to much. No one else on the team can, so CP feels the need to press. Team makes to many errors behind him and his position becomes stress calling instead of feeling the flow of the game. the zbs scheme has screwed this team up, offense and defense. Players aren’t buying in to it. Seasons been mailed in.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
They can’t fking score from the 1 yd line.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Carson Palmer IMO is hands down more talented than JC but he hasn’t demonstrated it on a consistent basis.
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He needs a better support staff, starting with the coaches.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Do we have an RgIII type talent in pryor? Can he be like cam newton or another promiosing rookie plying good football russel wilson?
I am dying to find out. At the very least we know he is abetter passer than tim tebow, and maybe closer to newton than I gave him credit for.
RGIII is on a level all his own, i have never seen a rookie come in an instantly turn nfl defenes into baylor vs texas southern.
The way he manipulates the defense and is always ahead of the ply is very much like joe montana.
You always expect him to make the right play and the smart call, you always expect him to be accurate.
he also has the clutch gene like montana, or marino and elway. If he has the ball at the end he will beat you.
Football has changed and the wave of the future rides on.
I cant wait until we get ours
pryor this year, or ej manual geno smith next year
November 19th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Wow Carson Palmer has been on bad teams his whole life, sniff, sniff.
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So I guess you expect QBs to put up good numbers consistently on bad teams, now thats a WOW.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Carson is an interception machine.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
They can’t fking score from the 1 yd line.
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ZBS. Pre-season, regular season. No imagination or concept design from this staff.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
“Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says: Carson Palmer chokes in the clutch.=”
Yeah and you swallow man juice in an alley for meth but we wont hold it against you
November 19th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Carson Palmer chokes on the crotch.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: RGIII is on a level all his own,==
You had him rated above Luck, right? Race Alert!! Race Alert!!
November 19th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
SilverandBlack loves Carson.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Execution?!?!?
You are a biotech Titty Monkey. Grow a pair and take responsibility for your BS.
Who hired his friend?
Who is a defensive minded coach with a defense that allowed 135 points in 3 games?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Carson Palmer will never have a better winning percentage with the Raiders that Campbell has.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I’m bummed, at 3-7 the season does not look good.
One week I blame the players.
The next week I blame the coaches.
I’ve finally come to realize that the whole franchise has failed big time this year.
At the end of the season we will see if the players are still responding and supporting DA. If not he may have to go. Hard call to make.
After yesterday, I am fkn done with Knapp. I gave him 9 games, his play calling has gotten worse with each game.
I’ve counted at least 8 new starters next season. Kind of hard to do but totally possible. Raiders do have some players that would be good to keep for depth.
I could care less if anyone reads this but thanks for letting me vent.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Priest, can you tell us all how good Russell and Vick are again? Remember that time you said Vick was better than Elway. Or how about the time you said Russell would win Super Bowls with the Saints if they pick him up.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I thought Carson was REALLY bad on kick coverage coming out at halftime. We need a gunner not some mamby pamby quarterback who is going to get blocked on kick off coverage or fall down on the 30yrd line….
November 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Eff you Titty Monkey! You remind me of Kitten.
Eff you!!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
As far as JC ’s record and and CP’s record taking in to consideration t/o’s and games won. JC has outproduced Carson. Mistic1 is spot on when he brings up these stats no one can argue those points.
I’m talking about the Talent of the two QB’s which is a very different discussion obviously that goes over your head………..stop telling me what I think just ask
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over my head huh, this coming from you? you said jc has outperformed cp but is less talented and you said to just ask but i already did. if jc has outperformed cp then why not sign him next year?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Carson Palmer and interceptions: “one a day” and one more for good measure.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
They can’t fking score from the 1 yd line.
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That’s the 10th time today you’ve said that, old troll
Admit it, you’re plastered
November 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1, TP6 is in the Cam Newton catagory they are very similar IMO. The way Cam was coached was different than TP. TP’s mechanics were bad causing inconsistency in production and delivery.
All TP needs is reps with the starting unit another offseason in thi system and I gaurantee you we will have a QB contraversy hot and heavy. That kid is a nightmare in cleats and as soon as they give him a decent chance to show them they will know it.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
“I thought Carson was REALLY bad on kick coverage coming out at halftime. We need a gunner not some mamby pamby quarterback who is going to get blocked on kick off coverage or fall down on the 30yrd line….”
Sloppy tackling playing safety too he should be benched……If he makes one more bad GM or coaching move I will let the blog tards crucify him
November 19th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
“Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says: Carson Palmer chokes in the clutch.=”
Yeah and you swallow man juice in an alley for meth but we wont hold it against you
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You’re such a childish petty little Btch. Did he call you any names?
November 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I tell you what just watch Kappy tonite for the niners. You’ll see a guy who’s not as good as TP and watch how frightening he is at taht position.
If I didn’t know any better I would think the Niners manipulated this situation tonite so they could see this kid start. I really believe the niners are getting their guy ready while we have ours buried on the BENCH…….stupid coaches!!
November 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Carson is a CHOKER.
McFadden is a BUST.
DA is NOT READY.
The entire defense is SOFT.
Reggie is a FRAUD.
Mark is a DISGRACE.
November 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1, TP6 is in the Cam Newton catagory they are very similar IMO. The way Cam was coached was different than TP. TP’s mechanics were bad causing inconsistency in production and delivery.
All TP needs is reps with the starting unit another offseason in thi system and I gaurantee you we will have a QB contraversy hot and heavy. That kid is a nightmare in cleats and as soon as they give him a decent chance to show them they will know it.
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tp hasn’t shown anything to garner such praise and cam isn’t exactly setting the world on fire. I hope i’m wrong about tp, but i’m pretty sure i’m not
November 19th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: RGIII is on a level all his own,==
You had him rated above Luck, right? Race Alert!! Race Alert!!
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more pathetic race baiting.
these cats just cant help themselves
November 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I tell you what just watch Kappy tonite for the niners. You’ll see a guy who’s not as good as TP and watch how frightening he is at taht position.
If I didn’t know any better I would think the Niners manipulated this situation tonite so they could see this kid start. I really believe the niners are getting their guy ready while we have ours buried on the BENCH…….stupid coaches
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don’t know what games you saw colin or tp play that would make you believe this, i guess their qb skills are over my head
November 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I tell you what just watch Kappy tonite for the niners. You’ll see a guy who’s not as good as TP and watch how frightening he is at taht position.
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agreed 100% cant wait til we unsheath tP6
November 19th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
“All TP needs is reps with the starting unit another offseason in thi system and I gaurantee you we will have a QB contraversy hot and heavy. ”
Which would explain why he cant beat out crappy Leinart to take over the 2nd string spot…..he might want to try that first before attempting to take over the starting position.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I haven’t watched Pryor NEARLY as much as I’ve watched Kaep, getting to attend games at UNR and watching them on TV quite lot. But Kaep’s got a LOT of talent. Got a huge cannon of an arm. That was when he had skinny guns. Kid’s been in the weight room big TIME last two years.
Looks like the 9Ball coaches might have worked out his whip delivery. That was always my concern for him at the NFL level. That whip was sometimes slow…
Would LOVE to see Pryor in a game. At ANY position. Maybe he can tackle, we could use a safety…
November 19th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
“The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
They can’t fking score from the 1 yd line.
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That’s the 10th time today you’ve said that, old troll
Admit it, you’re plastered”
That was funny….good one beech
November 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Evenin’, Raider fans
I see Beeech is in the house droppin’ smooth rhymes!
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MarcusAllen Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Yo Dennis – Corfing has a couple definitions – might want to read up http://m.urbandictionary.com/#define?term=corfing
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Perhaps we should change CORF to KORF: Knapp Orchestrated Raider Foul-!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Bears fans seem confident about Palmer. Apparently they weren’t paying attention the last time he played the 49ers.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
*Foul-up!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
I think I just corfed in my pants.
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Do not worry about it. Just pull the rope in the right direction, take a look at things, roll up your sleeves, get ready for a heavyweight fight, Blah Blah Blah
November 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
“Would LOVE to see Pryor in a game. At ANY position. Maybe he can tackle, we could use a safety…”
Would probably be the only way for him to get on the field
November 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I was gonna suggest Carson Organized Raider Foul-up but there’s already an acronym for that: INT.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
So Bree’s has a worse defense than Palmer?
November 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I tell you what just watch Kappy tonite for the niners. You’ll see a guy who’s not as good as TP and watch how frightening he is at taht position.
If I didn’t know any better I would think the Niners manipulated this situation tonite so they could see this kid start. I really believe the niners are getting their guy ready while we have ours buried on the BENCH…….stupid coaches!!
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It could actually be a smart move by the coaches. Look at Tebow, his own team is throwing him under the bus.
I would hate to see that happen with Pryor.
Hopefully Pryor is being coached up and is just on the back burner until he’s ready. Who really knows? I’ve read about Pryor’s work ethic, I hope he pulls it off.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
This is not the environment for Pryor to succeed in. Let’s put him in a better situation. These receivers will let him down and we don’t need to rattle the kid’s confidence.
He seems mentally tough but let’s put him in a position to succeed.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
if colin or tp blow up i’ll be the first to blow up, i’ll be the first to admit i was wrong same way i did when cam blew up his rookie year didn’t see that one coming
November 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
“So Bree’s has a worse defense than Palmer?”
So you have less brain cells than missdik
Your a half tard NO has a ton of talent all over that team.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
So Bree’s has a worse defense than Palmer?
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NOBODY has a worse defense than Palmer. 32nd in points allowed.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I have seen Pryor in college and some third string snaps in pre-season. It is exciting when he runs but I am not convinced that he is a sure thing NFL QB.
I hope he is but I don’t think endorsements from blog gurus makes it so.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Damn did anyone just hear yahoo jason cole on 95.7 the game??
He crushed Dennis Allen.. said he has been hearing rumblings on him for a while. Dont look good for the Raiders is thats the case. Lane kiffin/ josh mcdaniels jr.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
seth mitchell went down like the palmer worshipers, lets see how deontay wilder does next month
November 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Stuart Scott called JC a backup with street cred
November 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
PFT has an article about Dennis Allen. They have a picture of Tarver:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/19/dennis-allen-im-just-as-disappointed-and-frustrated-as-mark-davis/
November 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Anybody that is on Yahoo doesn’t know sht.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Jason cole said players have spoke out on Dennis Allen.
He has faith in Reggie but Dennis not so much. Said Dennis has already lost some of the locker room and its shown. Said when things go sideways Dennis is not experienced enough or know who deal with certain players in the lockeroom to bring this Org back. Crushed him
November 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
DA is in fact looking more and more like a fraud. I don’t need Jason Cole to make that assessment, but the player tidbit is interesting if true.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Maybe Allen is too strict with the players. That’s why Shanahan was fired. Raider players aren’t used to discipline.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
If players are having an audience with big mack or davis than davis is much more like his pop than anyone wants to admit.
I hope they do speak out this season has been a joke. deconstructing what we were building last year with hu jack and jc was a joke.
Big mack needs to get a real coach in here and take out the trash with palmer as well
November 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
well Jason cole has to be half right.. even Mark Davis was embarssed enough to speakout yesterday and have a short presser
November 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
‘NOBODY has a worse defense than Palmer. 32nd in points allowed.”
I know his Special Teams are even WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Twocents Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I have seen Pryor in college and some third string snaps in pre-season. It is exciting when he runs but I am not convinced that he is a sure thing NFL QB.
I hope he is but I don’t think endorsements from blog gurus makes it so.
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Wait a minute, you mean GMs and coaches don’t read these boards and take advice from long winded posters?
November 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Gather round all you clowns and YAHOO! Idiots.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
and since when do owners tell Coaches to talk to their star players? Mark be more like his popls then we all though. U are right
November 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Bottom line the Raiders went Bargain basement shopping for Coaches this offeseaon. Got DA becaues he was cheap price tag.. got some some cheap coaching assitants and it SHOWS.
U get what u pay for.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Maybe Allen is too strict with the players. That’s why Shanahan was fired. Raider players aren’t used to discipline.
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Could be, I’m also sure the locker room might have turned on him because they realize that most of them won’t be there next year.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Still only 4-12 on 3rd down. When do they fix THAT?
November 19th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RaidersAllday, reading Yahoo crap and believing it will ensure that you will die a stupid man.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Saw Tarfur discredit his earlier tweet about Mark Davis going to DMC to tell coaches what plays he likes to run.
Tarfur said no truth report saying “it’s not DMCs style to tell coaches what to do.”
November 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Gruden explaining how they had to dummy down the offense for Jason Campbell
November 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I did read any yahoo crap two cents. U mad? If u can read I said did anyone hear Jason cole on 95.7 the game? its a Radio program. The irony of u calling anyone stupid. Poor little boy having to resort to name calling cuz you dont agree with anything.
He was on to talk about the Niner MNF game.. and starting talking about the raiders without being asked.
BTW wheres there is smoke there is fire. Its not out of the possibility. MARK davis isnt even happy with DA..
November 19th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Saw Tarfur discredit his earlier tweet about Mark Davis going to DMC to tell coaches what plays he likes to run.
Tarfur said no truth report saying “it’s not DMCs style to tell coaches what to do.”
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I know. Mark said himself he told reggie to tell the coaches to talk to DMAC. Damnn why is it hard for ppl to realize what Mark Said. THere is even video of his presser yesterday.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
didnt read any yahoo*
November 19th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
I hear you.
Wonder what Mark meant with the “I have my opinion” but he’s not going to share comment when it came to starters, namely QB.
Davis did say he had confidence in Carson Palmer, but, could he want to see what Pryor can do at QB with season already lost?
November 19th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RaidersAllday, My apologies, I didn’t realize you were (how should I say this) special.
November 19th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Jason Campbell down 10-0. Fuggetaboudit!
November 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I’d rather have Kapernick over palmer. Didnt the 49ers trade up because they said the Raiders were hot on to him?
- I want my qb with some mobility and pump action trait
- I wonder how different our org would be if we drafted him. Does hue still make a trade for palmer with Kappy? pay Palmer 13 million vs Kappys 2nd round salary? More money for FA’s
That would be no Little Wiz though.
November 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Q: You inherited a bad situation, do you have enough good players to win right now?
A: “I firmly believe that. When you look at it the other way around, that’s an excuse, that’s a crutch to say you can’t get it done. I don’t believe in that. I believe that we have professional football players and I believe we can win games in the National Football League. That’s what we get paid to do, that’s our job. I’m not going to use anything as a crutch to say that’s the reason why.”
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Inherited a bad situation!!!! DA took a bad situation and made it worse. This team went 8-8 two years in a row. If he can’t go at least 8-8, it’s regression. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
November 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Don’t worry!!!
We are looking at things, we are rollin up our sleeves and getting to work. It is gut wrenching and unacceptable. We a are all boxers and I am mad.
We are pullin the rope man pullin the rope in the same direction.
They forgot to grade the Raiders on “coach speak” I give him a B for Bullshvt!!!
November 19th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Is anybody rooting for Campbell now?
November 19th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
JC is failing miserably.
Bet the BEARS regret paying him all that money…
With a resounding THUD.
There’s a big turd in the toilet, and i’ts name is Jason Campbell.
Flush the turd.
November 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Now we know why Campbell couldn’t wait to get to Chicago so he could wash Cutlers jockstrap for him.
November 19th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
#135. Any guy dumb enough to hire a staff loaded with friends, has no buusiness leading or being in charge. Idiots and failures are the only people dumb enough to hire a group of friends and/or family.
As a rookie head coach Allen needed to find the best assistance available. Guys with experience and a proven track record. Guys he could learn from, not clueless buddies. For that alone he deserves no second chance. First impressions say alot. besides he’s lost the team and will never get them back. Once you blow it the way he has, your/his subordinates rightfully concluded his a clueless moron and they simply fall into collect a check mode.
He isolate Al Saunders who’s been in the game longer than Allen has been alive. Wiz Sr. saw the moronic zone blocking scheme and saw immediate failure so he resigned. The guy opens the season with NO back-up long snapper. He used DMac on approx 75% of all offensive plays, despite his history of injury. He kept guys on the team he knew he’d never play. He had multiple offensive weapons, but elects to use them one at a time verse spreading things out. He built a team with no kick returner. He moronishly stuck with his buddies worthless zone blocking scheme until the season was virtually lost. He consistently fails to prepare the team for the 1st and 3rd quarters. In short Allen is in way over his head and should be fire immediately. Continuing with a proven loser is foolish.
November 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Pryor could be another Kap, however as Raiders fans we may never know. dennis Allen is a super vanilla, garbage coach who has failed to ever properly utilize his players. The guy’s a piss poor excuse of an NFL HC.
November 19th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Raider E Says:
November 19th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Why is your handle McFadden20 if you think the dude should be gone and just cashes checks?
I would change that very soon, my man.
BTW, this is the worst Raiders team I have ever seen. Top to bottom.
Born in 71′ and have been a fan since I can remember.
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uh, 2006 was the worst year – and they STILL beat the Steelers in the Coliseum that year.
November 19th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
He isolate Al Saunders who’s been in the game longer than Allen has been alive. Wiz Sr. saw the moronic zone blocking scheme and saw immediate failure so he resigned. The guy opens the season with NO back-up long snapper. He used DMac on approx 75% of all offensive plays, despite his history of injury. He kept guys on the team he knew he’d never play. He had multiple offensive weapons, but elects to use them one at a time verse spreading things out. He built a team with no kick returner. He moronishly stuck with his buddies worthless zone blocking scheme until the season was virtually lost. He consistently fails to prepare the team for the 1st and 3rd quarters. In short Allen is in way over his head and should be fire immediately. Continuing with a proven loser is foolish.
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Yeah, they were talking about Davis’ comments on the Coaches Show, and Davis shouldve backed his guy – Brian Billick was saying; anytime an owner speaks during the season, its usually not a good thing for the organization or the coach. Referred to Mark Davis as a “rookie owner” while Steve Mariucci was defending Davis saying maybe he is trying to shake everybody up and put people on notice. Denny Green was saying “This is our guy” and thats all owner Mark Davis, should have said.
November 20th, 2012 at 2:36 am
Let’s face it. No professional HC is going to blame his lack lustre players for where his team is at. He has to remain positive and say goods things about them. In private I am sure he speaks differently but all these media interviews are just that, media piffle. It’s part of the NFL. So stop reading too much into his interviews. He knows his talent level for the team is poor and he is doing his best with what he has at hand. One more thing, Hue Jackson DID publicly attack his players and not because cared about us but because he cared about Hue. think that is why RM fired him.