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Grading the Raiders from the Saints game

By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Beat writer Jerry McDonald graded the Raiders off their performance against the New Orleans Saints on Sunday. Here is a look at how the Raiders graded out:

Pass offense

Carson Palmer (22-for-40, 312 yards) had his third straight game of 300 yards or more, but 113 of those were tacked on with the Raiders already trailing 35-10. Two interceptions were costly — one that Malcolm Jenkins returned 55 yards for a touchdown, the other that bounced off Brandon Myers in the end zone for a Saints interception. Palmer and Denarius Moore were barely in the same area code.
Grade: D

Run offense

Marcel Reece gave the Raiders steady yards on the ground, finishing with 103 yards on 19 carries as the Raiders rushed for 120 yards overall and a respectable 4.6 yards per carry. The Raiders got no surge on a first-and-goal play at the 1, with Reece getting stuffed for a loss, starting a sequence that ended in an interception.
Grade: B

Pass defense

Lance Moore got cornerback Michael Huff on a double move for a 38-yard touchdown inside of a minute left in the first half and later beat Ron Bartell for a 16-yard score. Drew Brees was a coolly effieicent 20-for-27 for 219 yards and no interceptions. Brees was not sacked. Miles Burris failed to cover tight end Jimmy Graham on a goal line play. Touchdown. Grade: D

Run defense

The Saints, not known as a big rushing team, gained 153 yards on 28 carries, averaging 5.5 yards per attempt. Mark Ingram had 12 rushes for 67 yards and a 27-yard touchdown run on the first offensive snap of the second half. Defense gave up runs of 27, 25, 19 and 14 yards. Rolando McClain had 10 tackles in the base defense.
Grade: D

Special teams

Coye Francies had a chance at a big kickoff return and fell at the 20-yard line. A 75-yard kickoff return by Travaris Cadet to open the second half swung momentum permanently to the side of the Saints. Sebastian Janikowski converted his only field goal attempt from 40 yards. Shane Lechler can’t catch a break kicking inside the 20 as everything rolls into the end zone. Grade: D

Coaching

Whatever the coaching staff is saying at halftime isn’t working. The Raiders have been outscored 123-34 in the third quarter. However, the loss to New Orleans had more to do with players getting beat by better players than it did with offensive or defensive play-calling. If the Raiders could have gotten out of their own way and taken a lead, they might have run the ball all day.
Grade: D

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  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    RockyMtnHigh Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    This is Palmer’s Super Bowl this week. Hopefully the team rallies around him.
    ====================================
    Dopey comment. Most players have a link to another team, somewhere. some more than one. You act like Palmer is God and the team bows in his presence. That, according to you, he should be rallied around? That it’s his SB? That all the team wants to make Palmer happy?
    Moron
    ——-
    They need some kind of motivation, don’t they? Who the f*ck are you anyways? ‘RockyMtnHigh’ must be one of Seymour Bush’s sock puppets.

  • mcfadden20.

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    McFadin’, haha, calm down little nerd

    All that nervous sweating you’re doing right now isn’t going to solve a thing

    Although it is pretty funny, holla

    Speaking of my upcoming dope hip hop album Wrecks N Effect, I’m working on a hella phat joint about the Lake Show gettin’ hype on uptempo offense

    Gotta drop a mad duece then I’ll drop some steamy lyrics. Or maybe I’ll just hit the Olive Garden

    SHIZZLE 2 MY FIZZLE

    ____

    F*KK off already , nobody needs you in here, i don’t know what you see in this blog that even reminds you of rap

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic is going yell ‘racism’ because Steve didn’t give Palmer an ‘F’ for the game.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    LOL even noted carson apologist are bailing and trying to hide their bungle stripped hydes.

    That grade is late but welcome to the party guys.

  • eastoaklandraider

    coaching matters, but they can only do so much if they got no talent, just look at Lakers , do they even fire M Brown if they weren’t loaded , nope , they were underachieving , we’re def on par with talent level on this team
    ——————

    We have talent, werent we one of the leaders in sacks last year? we have the talent but not the coaching, you dont go from top 5 in sacks to not having a pass rush dam dude use your head, why do you think that is? you figured it out with the eagles so why not the Raiders?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Can we get graded on a curve, with the Chiefs, Panthers and Browns?

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    FIREREGGIENOW!

    Just Tank Baby.

  • DutchRaider77

    882.Marks hair Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch

    _________________________________________________

    C’Mon he is pretty good for what he is, a backup or 2nd TE.

  • bcz24

    We have talent, werent we one of the leaders in sacks last year? we have the talent but not the coaching, you dont go from top 5 in sacks to not having a pass rush dam dude use your head, why do you think that is? you figured it out with the eagles so why not the Raiders?
    ********************
    Actually they were 16th in the NFL in sacks, but that is slightly misleading when you have games like the first SD game where they have a 4th string LT getting abused.

  • mcfadden20.

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Eagles started sucking after their longtime DCo Johnson retired or passed away . Not sure what happened to him

    That is true! Jim Johnson passed away! After, they have never been teh same on D!

    Yup, they were always a top 10 unit with him , which was 1 of the reasons they were always in the playoffs
    ———————

    SEE DUMMY COACHING MATTERS!!!! but i guess the eagles dont have talent.

    —-
    coaching matters, but they can only do so much if they got no talent, just look at Lakers , do they even fire M Brown if they weren’t loaded , nope , they were underachieving , we’re def on par with talent level on this team
    ——————

    We have talent, werent we one of the leaders in sacks last year? we have the talent but not the coaching, you dont go from top 5 in sacks to not having a pass rush dam dude use your head, why do you think that is? you figured it out with the eagles so why not the Raiders?

    no we were not top 5 , we were middle of pack last year, with Wimbley , 1 year younger KElly and 1 year younger seymour

  • The Beeech Dawg

    McDork, remember that this is the Beeeech Dawg’s world and I’m allowing you the opportunity to blog

    Shout out to Master P, whut whut

    Goober, all I see in the blog – and life – is the pulse of the streets. Hip hop & the rap lifestyle is something the Beeeech Diggity learned the hard way

    Awwww yeah, gang warfare in the mean streets of Inglewood, holla

    That’s why I formed my clique the Inglewood Eagles. We were tough and always ready to rumble, but could also sing and dance like Boyz II Men

  • Just Fire Baby

    werent we one of the leaders in sacks last year?

    **************************

    Not even close, 17th in the league.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Tied for 16th, so either 16th or 17th, however you slice it.

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    And he’s lucky a lot of DBs can’t catch because he could’ve had at least two more.

    ****************************

    Palmer’s the only QB lucky that DB’s can’t catch? Please, all DB’s can’t catch.

    In fact, RGIII’s only incomplete pass yesterday was a sure fire pick 6 that Rodgers-Cromartie dropped.

    Defensive players, not just DB’s, can’t catch, and drop INT’s every week in every game.

    Brees threw a ball right to Desmond Bryant. Hit him in all 10 fingers and both palms. Dropped.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Brees and RG3 did that ONE time. Palmer actually Threw a pick-6 and almost threw another one near our goal line to go along with another near miss during the 1st drive. He does that sht a million times more than the other guys you’re talking about. Do me a favor, stick your nose in your almanac for geeks and tell me who the league leaders are in pick-6s the last 5 years . Honest question.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Mistic’s posts are so ridiculous, it’s hard to tell if he is being serious or maybe his handle was hijacked. I guess it doesn’t matter. He’s a clown either way.

    I couldn’t agree more!

    Just ignore “it” that what I do…

  • eastoaklandraider

    Mistic you are def have something against white people, you said Johnny football wont make it as a qb in the NFL but he just beat the best D in the nation with precision passing, I mean the guy was droping’em right in there, perfect throws and his only a freshman, and he runs a 4.3 40 but he cant make it? you really do sound racist on that one.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    882.Marks hair Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Meyers has to go.. cant block.. chokes on dick in the clutch

    _________________________________________________

    C’Mon he is pretty good for what he is, a backup or 2nd TE.
    ——
    Zach Miller’s career high in catches is 66. Meyers already has 50.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Another poster jumps in and brings up race========================================================

    You spent months laying the foundation. Don’t b1tch about the results now.

  • mcfadden20.

    bcz24 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    We have talent, werent we one of the leaders in sacks last year? we have the talent but not the coaching, you dont go from top 5 in sacks to not having a pass rush dam dude use your head, why do you think that is? you figured it out with the eagles so why not the Raiders?
    ********************
    Actually they were 16th in the NFL in sacks, but that is slightly misleading when you have games like the first SD game where they have a 4th string LT getting abused.

    Also faced 10 teams ranked in the bottom 15th of offensive rankings , that doesn’t hurt either

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Josh Dubow‏@JoshDubowAP

    Only #Raiders team to be outscored by more per game was 15.8 in 1961

    Dubow‏@JoshDubowAP

    #Raiders being outscored by 11.4 ppg this season. The ’06 Art Shell team outscored by 10.3 ppg

    #Raiders record for most points allowed in 3 game span is 141 in 1961. They’re at 132 now with 18+ mins left

    Via the stats guy on twitter

    ————————–

    But its all HUES fault right?? LMAO.. he had to go? btw isnt D.A a defensive guy? He has shown zero impact since he has been hired. THE D has been worse then the PRE AL ERA. MOST EVER GIVEN UP. On top of that he hires KNAPP and changes the OFFENSE LOL

    Only the raiders horrrible

  • Just Fire Baby

    After yesterdays respectable performance, we are no longer dead last in the NFL in rushing.

  • mcfadden20.

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    McDork, remember that this is the Beeeech Dawg’s world and I’m allowing you the opportunity to blog

    Shout out to Master P, whut whut

    Goober, all I see in the blog – and life – is the pulse of the streets. Hip hop & the rap lifestyle is something the Beeeech Diggity learned the hard way

    Awwww yeah, gang warfare in the mean streets of Inglewood, holla

    That’s why I formed my clique the Inglewood Eagles. We were tough and always ready to rumble, but could also sing and dance like Boyz II Men

    STFU b1tch wh0re

  • inonewordraider

    david shaw or jon gruden 2013!

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Mistic: Black qb’s are the wave of the future. You white supremists want to hold black qb’s down.

    Bloggers: “Mistic loves to talk about black qb’s. After being outed only talking about black qb’s, he then posted a couple of comments about white qb’s, pointing to it, as an afterthought, saying “see, I’m not racist”

    Mistic: “Another racist comment”

    You really think most here don’t see through your shallow little charade?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Campbell in last 15 starts with #Raiders 10-5; 60.3% completion; 17 TDs, 8INTs, 89.6 passer rating

    ZERO Pick Six. Palmer 5 pick six since being here.

    Dubow‏@JoshDubowAP

    ————————-

    VIa the twitter stat guy again. But Raiders crapped on on Campbell lol. Only the raiders fail to realize what a good record means

  • Dan78

    Mcfeelings hurt….
    Someone grab those Nachos

  • mcfadden20.

    Dan78 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Mcfeelings hurt….
    Someone grab those Nachos

    You mean some one grab that turd so you can have turd eating contest with BEECH

  • Dan78

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Dan78 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Mcfeelings hurt….
    Someone grab those Nachos

    You mean some one grab that turd so you can have turd eating contest with BEECH
    —————
    Why so sensitive…little guy

  • eastoaklandraider

    oh, 16th my bad, maybe that was the year before, but middle of the pack is better than what we have now.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Do me a favor, stick your nose in your almanac for geeks and tell me who the league leaders are in pick-6s the last 5 years . Honest question.

    **************************

    You have brought this stat up before, and I can never find it. If you have a link to support it, I would love to add it to my favorites.

    This is all I could find, a historically list.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=7473

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    “Mistic’s posts are so ridiculous, it’s hard to tell if he is being serious or maybe his handle was hijacked. I guess it doesn’t matter. He’s a clown either way.

    I couldn’t agree more!

    Just ignore “it” that what I do…
    ==============================
    Except Dr Doofus, and McFuddled20 are incapable of ignoring Mistic’s racist rants, and continually feed the porker.
    Sad little group I’ve come to realize.

  • mcfadden20.

    Dan78 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Dan78 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Mcfeelings hurt….
    Someone grab those Nachos

    You mean some one grab that turd so you can have turd eating contest with BEECH
    —————
    Why so sensitive…little guy

    OK

  • RaiderDebo

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    “Mistic’s posts are so ridiculous, it’s hard to tell if he is being serious or maybe his handle was hijacked. I guess it doesn’t matter. He’s a clown either way.

    I couldn’t agree more!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2

    “So ridiculous”???? Lets see:

    He said Cam Newton would be the top pick in the draft and take the league by storm: He was and it happened.

    He said that RG3 was the best QB in college football and would take the league by storm: He was and it happened.

    He said that the Palmer trade was a bust the day it happened and that it would be a downgrade from what we had going with JC: It was and it has been.

    What so “ridiculous”????? On the contrary, I think it’s time for you clowns to start taking notes when he posts!!!!

  • The Beeech Dawg

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    McDork, remember that this is the Beeeech Dawg’s world and I’m allowing you the opportunity to blog

    Shout out to Master P, whut whut

    Goober, all I see in the blog – and life – is the pulse of the streets. Hip hop & the rap lifestyle is something the Beeeech Diggity learned the hard way

    Awwww yeah, gang warfare in the mean streets of Inglewood, holla

    That’s why I formed my clique the Inglewood Eagles. We were tough and always ready to rumble, but could also sing and dance like Boyz II Men

    STFU b1tch wh0re

    ——-

    Awesome! The MELTDOWN is flowin’, folks!

    Dan the Man, I’ll take some extra jalapenos on my nachos, brah

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    I admire Palmer for staying here knowing this was a total rebuild putting his head down and working diligently doing what the coaches ask of him.

    Next year he and D Moore are going to light it up I am thinking 1800 yards for D Moore if it all works out.

    We should get a high draft pick which we will trade down for several more picks. Cast offs should get sent packing yielding us another 2 or 3 draft picks all in all I would say by draft day in April Reggie will have accumulated 10 draft picks.

    With that he will go about fixing the O-Line and the entire defense. If Palmer can get the amount of time Brees and Brady are getting back there to throw and we have a real running game established next year he will light up the sky and we will win the division

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Mistic you are def have something against white people, you said Johnny football wont make it as a qb in the NFL but he just beat the best D in the nation with precision passing, I mean the guy was droping’em right in there, perfect throws and his only a freshman, and he runs a 4.3 40 but he cant make it? you really do sound racist on that one.
    ===============

    More race talk?

    I said Johhny football is one of my favorite college qbs to to watch.

    I never said he “wont make it as a qb”

    I did question if he has an nfl arm, then suggested that he has the athletic ability to play other positions like kick returner/wr. I new tony martin type

  • Dan78

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    McDork, remember that this is the Beeeech Dawg’s world and I’m allowing you the opportunity to blog

    Shout out to Master P, whut whut

    Goober, all I see in the blog – and life – is the pulse of the streets. Hip hop & the rap lifestyle is something the Beeeech Diggity learned the hard way

    Awwww yeah, gang warfare in the mean streets of Inglewood, holla

    That’s why I formed my clique the Inglewood Eagles. We were tough and always ready to rumble, but could also sing and dance like Boyz II Men

    STFU b1tch wh0re

    ——-

    Awesome! The MELTDOWN is flowin’, folks!

    Dan the Man, I’ll take some extra jalapenos on my nachos, brah
    ———
    hey Beech dawgity Lakers ran circles around the rockets, was that you in the luxury box next to Hef.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    yo

  • Just Fire Baby

    I never knew last placed QB’s could take the league by storm.

    Andy Dalton is better than Cam Newton, and Andrew Luck is better than RGIII.

    It’s all about W-L

  • RockyMtnHigh

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    ____

    F*KK off already , nobody needs you in here, i don’t know what you see in this blog that even reminds you of rap
    =================================================
    You are like a little child.
    Maybe one or two people here even read this goobers comments. You are definitely one. And then you copy and paste his comments, making it clear that he always knows he can get your nads all wadded by a simple post.

    Have you always been so gullible?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RockyMtnHigh Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Mistic: Black qb’s are the wave of the future. You white supremists want to hold black qb’s down.
    ==============

    i have never said this

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I dont admire Palmer for sheeet. Its not like he is donating his time being here during a rebuild year. The guy is making 13 million dollars. 15 next.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    jerry blowing the better players trumpet…what else can we expect from the writer who throws softballs to dennis allen…

  • Just Fire Baby

    SI’s article feature this week on Manziel said his arm strength last year as a redshirt was pretty much the same as Tannehill’s.

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    RockyMtnHigh Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    This is Palmer’s Super Bowl this week. Hopefully the team rallies around him.
    ====================================
    Dopey comment. Most players have a link to another team, somewhere. some more than one. You act like Palmer is God and the team bows in his presence. That, according to you, he should be rallied around? That it’s his SB? That all the team wants to make Palmer happy?
    Moron
    ——-
    They need some kind of motivation, don’t they? Who the f*ck are you anyways? ‘RockyMtnHigh’ must be one of Seymour Bush’s sock puppets
    =============================
    Expected, confused, reply.
    Let me say it again. These are grown men, playing for their own rights, status, and future. Not one of them gives a damn about Palmer having played in Cinc, and that NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE GOING TO TRY HARDER JUST FOR PALMER.

    See how stupid that/you sound?

    Need it explained again?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Jerry is a lap dog for this Regime now. He just likes that gave him and the media guys more field access to walk around and not be in the box.

    Also like the give Subway sandwhiches away. AL knew all these guys were annoying.

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    RockyMtnHigh Says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Mistic: Black qb’s are the wave of the future. You white supremists want to hold black qb’s down.
    ==============

    i have never said this
    ==============================================
    Only dozens of times. But hey, who’s counting?

  • Raider guy

    So tired of the loosing…you know?

  • fingers

    I’d have given pass defense, special teams and coaching F’s…

  • RockyMtnHigh

    Mistic? You don’t really want your White Supremists rant reposted, do you?