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Playing Bengals stokes ongoing debates about Palmer, Jackson

Well, here we are. The week has arrived when people can dredge up whether the Raiders made the right decision in firing coach Hue Jackson and whether the trade Jackson engineered for quarterback Carson Palmer was worth it or not.
Oh, and Sunday’s game against the Cincicnnati Bengals just happens to be Palmer’s first game against the team that selected him No. 1 overall in the 2003 NFL draft.
Make no mistake, it’s going to be fans and media doing most of the talking in the run up to the game. Jackson isn’t talking, Lewis isn’t shedding much light on Palmer turning his back on the Bengals, and Palmer is taking the high road.
“I’m not going to dive back into that,” Palmer said. “To me, this is three seasons later, two seasons later. That was in the past. I’m here now. I don’t want to dive into that.”
Palmer forced the Bengals hand last season by saying he would retire rather than play for them again. The Bengals said that they wouldn’t trade Palmer.
Ultimately, the Raiders pried away Palmer from the Bengals last season for a 2012 first-round pick and a 2013 second-rounder just before the trade deadline, in response to starter Jason Campbell suffering a season-ending collarbone injury.
The trade set off an ongoing debate as to whether the Raiders got fleeced and if Palmer is a better option than Campbell.
It says here, the Raiders had no choice, and who cares if they overpaid. They weren’t going anywhere with Kyle Boller as the starter.
Sure enough, Palmer guided the Raiders within one game of winning the AFC West and their first playoff berth in nine seasons.
Lewis said it looks as if Palmer is having fun with the Raiders. Palmer said he didn’t have any fun during his final season with the Bengals.
Palmer said he and former teammates have talked about how things ended in Cincinnati, without elaborating.
“I have seen guys, run into guys back in San Diego, talked, texted,” Palmer said. “Anybody that’s ever played for that ownership knows what I was doing and why I was doing it.”
Still, there remains a sizable faction bitter over the trade, with much of the venom directed at Jackson.
Lo and behold, Jackson ended up in Cincinnati, where is coaching the cornerbacks and helping out on special teams. One of his prized pupils is Bengals cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick, the players selected by the Bengals with the first-rounder they received from the Raiders as part of the Palmer trade.
“He’s been great,” Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said of Jackson in a conference call. “He’s been a great asset to me, having spent the year again as a coordinator and then as a head coach. He sees everything from a completely different perspective than other assistant coaches and position coaches do. His knowledge of offense has been incredible to go along with our defensive staff.”
On and on Lewis went in extolling the virtues of Jackson, who was fired by the Raiders shortly after last season ended.
“He’s a great technician as a coach and he sees the details and he sees the big picture,” Lewis said. “That’s why he’s so special as a coach. He can see both the detail work you have to have to be great but he can also see the entire big picture. He’s done that same thing in helping with and working with the special teams and our special teams coach as he coaches his segments. He envisions those plays as almost offensive plays and so forth. He comes with that enthusiasm and everything. It’s been great.”
For Jackson’s part, he steered clear of delving into much about the Palmer trade and being fired by the Raiders.
“It’s really another football game,” Jackson told Bengals writers. “For me, it is. it has to be. You can’t get caught up in the emotional part of it because that’s not what this is about. This is about winning and losing. There’s a team that’s really hungry, very talented. They have some big-time players that are going to try to come here and win a game. And we’re finding ourselves and we have to do everything we can to win a football game.”
Lewis said he thinks Jackson deserves another shot at being an NFL head coach. It remains to be seen whether Jackson will get that opportunity.
Already, Jackson’s name has been mentioned as a possibility for the Cal coaching vacancy. Jackson coached at Cal earlier in his career.
Palmer said he is “excited” about the prospect of playing in front of the fans that once cheered his every move from 2003-10.
“It’s a big game,” Palmer said. “But it’s obviously a much bigger game for our team. We have to get a win. We’re going to fight, we’re going to grind this week. We have a lot of room for improvement, a lot of areas we need to improve on. Obviously, going into Cincinnati, it’s a big game.”
For McKenzie and the Raiders too. You can bet that McKenzie and owner Mark Davis want a victory Sunday for more reasons than the fact the Raiders are in the midst of a three-game losing streak.
Asked if he has any regrets about forcing his way out of Cincinnati, Palmer said: “No regrets.”
Let the debates continue.

– Most players that were here for either or both of Jackson’s two seasons with the Raiders held him in high regard. Naturally, there were those that didn’t warm to Jackson, for one reason or another.
Running back Darren McFadden enjoyed his best seasons under Jackson’s play-calling. He remains appreciative for the time and effort Jackson took in finding a way to get the most from McFadden’s ability.
“I felt like he helped me a whole lot, just building my confidence in the league and he gave me the opportunity to show folks I can go out there and run the ball the way I do,” McFadden said.
McFadden rushed for a career-high 1,157 yards in 2010 and 614 in seven games last season. Both seasons, he averaged more than 5 yards per carry. He hasn’t averaged more than 4.4 yards in any of his three other NFL seasons, including a 3.3 mark this season.
Jackson made a point of talking about how he pulled aside McFadden in 2010 and asked him which plays he liked to run and then relied upon those plays in games.
“I just felt he tried to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers on offense,” McFadden said, “and I felt like that was something he did with us well, and that’s something he can do anywhere that he’s at.”
McFadden said he and Jackson have exchanged texts since Jackson was fired and that if a team is willing to give Jackson another shot at being a head coach in the NFL that “they’ll have a great head coach.”
Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey is another player that flourished under Jackson’s tutelage.
Jackson said he and then-offensive coordinator Al Saunders determined the things that Heyward-Bey does best and concentrated on those things in games.
Heyward-Bey responded with career-highs in receptions (64), yards (975) and touchdowns (4) last season. Heyward-Bey has 28 catches for 440 yards and three touchdowns so far this season.
“He just saw the work I put in,” Heyward-Bey said. “He believed in me. He was the type of coach that, he will call plays because he wanted to see if you were going to make a play. He did that the years he was here.”
Heyward-Bey said he also enjoyed Jackson’s gutsy play-calling.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain said he enjoyed the energy and passion that Jackson brought to the team. He certainly didn’t expect the Raiders to fire Jackson after an 8-8 season.
“I guess you never know what’s going to happen, especially not with this team,” McClain said. “I guess you never know what will happen. That’s just the business that we’re in. It caught me by surprise. I didn’t expect it.”

– No emotional send-offs for veteran linebacker Aaron Curry. At least not from coach Allen.
When asked whether Curry’s departure owed to Curry’s knee injuries or an inability to make the defense better, Allen wasted little time responding.
“We just didn’t feel like he was a fit for us moving forward,” Allen said, without elaborating.
Guess there really isn’t a need when the answer is that succinct.

– Wide receiver Denarius Moore and Palmer at times in recent games looked as if they were playing together for the first time.
Only one of seven passes directed for Moore against the Saints found the mark. Against the Buccaneers, a late pass by Palmer ended up in the arms of a Bucs defensive back, with Moore breaking toward the middle of the field, away from the ball.
Allen said everyone has a share of blame for Palmer and Moore not being on the same page as often as desired.
“It’s all of our responsibility,” Allen said. “First of all, all of us need to look internally at what we need to do better to make this thing work. And then, collectively, as a group, how can we work to make this better?”
Part of the issue also stems from Moore being a second-year player, still acclimating to the NFL and learning a new offense for the second straight season.
“Yeah, and that’s what happens when you have young players,” Allen said. “There’s a growing process, and Denarius is still continuing to grow and he’s going to continue to get better, but it’s part of the process.”
Palmer said he bears the brunt of the responsibility.
“I need to look at the film and see what happens and we need to sit down and talk about it,” Palmer said after the Saints game. “He’s our go-to guy. He’s our No. 1 receiver, he’s got a lot of plays for him and we haven’t had a ton of time on task and that’s why some of the miscommunication things come up.
“The guy had a bad hamstring injury all offseason, all training camp, there’s times it shows and it’s my fault. He’s a second-year guy, we need to do a better job getting on the same page with him, seeing things the way he sees ‘em and I need to improve in that aspect.”

– Allen said it’s possible that the vacancy on the 53-man roster created by waiving Curry on Tuesday will be filled by signing a player from the practice squad.

– Allen still isn’t sure when McFadden, Mike Goodson or Richard Seymour will be able to get back on the field. All he can do for now is remain hopeful. None of the three practiced Wednesday.
“Well, I don’t know when they’ll be back,” Allen said. “Hopefully they all will be back soon. All I can tell you is they are all rehabbing. Tyvon was out here practicing today. They’re going to rehab as fast as they can and when they’re healthy they’ll be back out here.”

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  • Charlie

    GG

    Completely agree about our lines being the focus of this years draft.

    Those that continue to talk about coaching, QB’s and Macfadden do not get it.

    Though I consider the oline to be the heart of the team(When you are getting first downs our defense can not be bulldozed), our dline has deteriorated to a PATHETIC level.

    DA for the first time acknowledged this week a talent problem when he said “we do not have that speed rusher on the edge like most teams”. A HUGE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

    Our first two picks will be DT and DE. My hope is we can trade down in the first round and get a second round pick as well.

    Seymour will be gone next year. What a complete waste of money.EMBARRASSING THAT HE ACTUALLY CASHES HIS PAYCHECK.
    Kelly is a huge waste talent wise but at least he plays and practices.
    Houston is the only keeper.

    VERY VERY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.

  • DJ Johnny

    400,

    It’s the EXECUTION they always say.

    There’s some truth to that obviously.

    To me that falls on the coaches too.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    would love chucky back but if it dont happen im cool with it just get “marks a lot” danus allen out of here!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 am
    Raider O Says:
    November 20th, 2012 at 8:21 am
    You win the game in the box. We have ignored that area for ten years with HIGH ROUND PICKS.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

    BS!
    Gallery
    Grove
    Mario
    Vledheer
    Barksdale
    Wiz
    26 yo rookie
    All drafted in 1st 3 rounds in the last 8 years.
    —————————————————
    Mario Veldheer Barksdale….4th rounders
    26 yo rookie (Bergstrom)….very last pick of 3rd round

    C’mon You People!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

    Mario, Veldheer, and Barksdale are 3rd round picks!
    C’mon You People!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Happy Thanksgiving.

  • Raiderbuck

    Raider O Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Happy Thanksgiving.
    ***********************************************

    Quit ruining our football b!tching with happy thoughts!

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! :)

  • Charlie

    Raider O

    You need to draft high (1st and 2nd rounds)to have a better chance of building your lines.(Look at how the Giants, Steelers and Ravens have drafted. You have to go back about 8 years but you can see that they are always building their lines. Please research it before you reply).

    As I have said before, the great Raider teams were ALWAYS BUILT THAT WAY.

    Sure you can get a miss like Gallery or a John Clay (Do even remeber him?)

    The higher probability is you get a Mosebar, Lawrence Upshaw, Schuh,Robbins, McGlockton, Russell, Steve Wisnieski, Bruce Wilerson, Mo Collins, Pickel, Conners etc etc.

    Do you even know who these guys are????

    Do you really think Plunkett found himself with Oakland or do you think the Oline giving him five seconds to throw might have helped?

    Your team is defined on the line of scrimmage and we have not invested enough 1 and 2nd rounders in these areas.

    Further, the picks that we have made for the last ten years with our high picks have been disastrous.
    Tui, JR, Buchanon, Washington, Teyo Johnson, Doug Jolley.

    You do not have to look any further for ten straight years of no playoffs!!!!!

  • DJ Johnny

    GO REDSKINS.

    It will be a Happy Turkey Day if Wash. beats Dallas.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    You need to draft high (1st and 2nd rounds)to have a better chance of building your lines.(Look at how the Giants, Steelers and Ravens have drafted. You have to go back about 8 years but you can see that they are always building their lines. Please research it before you reply).
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Steelers won a few SBs with a bad OL, and they still have issues with their OL.
    The giants invest a lot in their DL but not their OL. They drafted 2 OL in the 1st 2 rounds in the last decade!
    What are you talking about?

  • fingers

    Happy Thanksgiving Raider Nation..!!

    I’ve got the Texans … Dallas … And …Patriots winning today….

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Giants drafted 2 OL in the 2nd round in the last 10 years!

  • DJ Johnny

    Remember how the 76 Raiders won that popularity contest of best all time team on nfl.com?

    I know a few zealous fans voted dozens of times to help but fans of other teams did the same.

    It’s an indication that there are more than a few Raider fans out there.

    It’s a shame with such a loyal, enduring fan base as ours have to endure these degrading, insulting and humiliating losses and have to hear media call us “laughingstock”…a ‘joke’ etc. etc.

    Is it too much to ask that DA have this team ready to play on Sunday? Is it too much to ask he can make the “nation” proud for one Sunday afternoon?

  • DJ Johnny

    Why do we have to look toward Sunday’s game at Cincinnati and have the sinking feeling we have no chance in hell of winning?

    That’s just not right.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Giants and Steelers won multiple SBs without investing top picks in the OL.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Raider O Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
    You need to draft high (1st and 2nd rounds)to have a better chance of building your lines.(Look at how the Giants, Steelers and Ravens have drafted. You have to go back about 8 years but you can see that they are always building their lines. Please research it before you reply).
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Steelers won a few SBs with a bad OL, and they still have issues with their OL.
    The giants invest a lot in their DL but not their OL. They drafted 2 OL in the 1st 2 rounds in the last decade!
    What are you talking about?

    ================

    I think the Giants DL drafted more CB’s than DL in the 1st round…But hey don’t confuse people with facts.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Remember how the 76 Raiders won that popularity contest of best all time team on nfl.com?

    I know a few zealous fans voted dozens of times to help but fans of other teams did the same.

    It’s an indication that there are more than a few Raider fans out there.

    It’s a shame with such a loyal, enduring fan base as ours have to endure these degrading, insulting and humiliating losses and have to hear media call us “laughingstock”…a ‘joke’ etc. etc.

    Is it too much to ask that DA have this team ready to play on Sunday? Is it too much to ask he can make the “nation” proud for one Sunday afternoon?

    ================

    I hear ya man but at this point I’m at the “fu** it”(Lebowski) stage. If we keep getting embarrassed maybe it gets the DA, no not Donkey A$$hole, Dennis Allen fired. A few embarrassments and there will be a change of guard, unless they want zero fans to show up next year. Hell I might even cancel my annual Oakland trip next year if these stooges don’t give us something.

  • Charlie

    You obviously did not do the research. Example:

    Steelers

    2012 1st round Guard 2nd round OT
    2011 1ST round DT 2ND round OL
    2010 1st round C 2ND ROUND DE
    2009 1st round DE 2nd round T

    This is what the Raiders used to do.
    Get the skill guys in the later rounds but always build your lines.

    I understand that you can find an ALL PRO Lineman in round three or later (Art SHell). THE PERCENTAGES ARE BETTER IN THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS.

    After you build your line foundation then you can use high picks on skill guys.

    Our Line play is AWFUL. We rank at or last in league in rush defense every year and we can not get sack WHILE RUSHING FOUR AGAINST ANYONE.
    You must be able to see how other teams get the push on us?

    Build the lines and the wins will follow.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Charlie Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
    You obviously did not do the research. Example:

    Steelers

    2012 1st round Guard 2nd round OT
    2011 1ST round DT 2ND round OL
    2010 1st round C 2ND ROUND DE
    2009 1st round DE 2nd round T
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I said they won SBs, so that means before the 2009 season.
    C Pouncy was the 1st OL in drafted in the 1st 2 rounds in 8 years. The OT was drafted in the 3rd!
    Do you know football?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Steelers

    2012 1st round Guard 2nd round OT
    2011 1ST round DT 2ND round OL
    2010 1st round C 2ND ROUND DE
    2009 1st round DE 2nd round T

    ******************************

    There last Super Bowl was 2008 though, after they were drafting all kinds of WR, RB and WR’s in the first few rounds.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Steelers and the Giants won multiple SBs without investing high draft picks in their OL.
    That’s a FACT!
    You People…..

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 8:38 am
    Steelers

    2012 1st round Guard 2nd round OT
    2011 1ST round DT 2ND round OL
    2010 1st round C 2ND ROUND DE
    2009 1st round DE 2nd round T

    ******************************

    There last Super Bowl was 2008 though, after they were drafting all kinds of WR, RB and WR’s in the first few rounds.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    Thank you, and Happy Thanksgiving Chico.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Happy Turkey Day bro!!

    The NFL business is a very self-succient market. If RG’s were more important, they would get paid more.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
    Happy Turkey Day bro!!

    The NFL business is a very self-succient market. If RG’s were more important, they would get paid more.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Most OGs and Cs were drafted in later rounds. The best FA OG who signed with TB (Carl Nicks) was a 5th round pick.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Can’t help but to wonder if the Raiders completed the comeback against the Bucs and brought us to 4-4 where the season would have gone.I would think the last 2 games would not have been blowouts.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!

    Maybe The Raiders will play some inspired football this sunday.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    – No emotional send-offs for veteran linebacker Aaron Curry. At least not from coach Allen.

    When asked whether Curry’s departure owed to Curry’s knee injuries or an inability to make the defense better, Allen wasted little time responding.

    “We just didn’t feel like he was a fit for us moving forward,” Allen said, without elaborating.

    Guess there really isn’t a need when the answer is that succinct.

    ==================================================

    Translation: “Curry screwed up, he knows what he did, and now he’s gone. You ARE the Weakest Link: Goodbye.”

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Is today a holiday or something? This place is dead lol

  • RaiderRetribution

    ABG #252
    SB #336

    Both true statements

  • MiamiRaider78

    You people,

    Happy Thanksgiving!

    May God bless your family, friends, pets and our Raiders!

  • RaiderRetribution

    Raider players that will be here next season:

    Reece, Vehldeer, Wisniewski, Burris, Houston, Criner

    All others have either trade value or will be cut.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Heading off to Thanksgiving dinner. Be back later. Happy Turkey Day, everyone!

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Happy Thanksgiving Nation!

    Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Good little segment on Jerome Harrison ont CBS pregame show.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Off to the pool…it’s 72 degrees in Miami, 42% humidity…not a cloud in the sky.

    =)

    Later!

  • RaiderRetribution

    Future points to ponder:

    1) Reece has another 100 yds/90 yds rec/run combo Sunday does he become Raiders’ #1 RB?

    2) Could Mark Davis possibly sign the head coach his father wanted, Sean Peyton?

    3) Will Reggie consider J. Gruden?

    4) Will Allen recognize Vehldeer/Wisniewski LT/LG power-scheme could be best in NFL?

  • Charlie

    RaiderO

    Your comments about Super Bowls and the Steelers further supports your limited understanding of the point I am trying to make.(If you did not notice they have won two SuperBowls and been in a third in the last seven years).
    What is the Steelers winning percentage OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS? That is the key metric. They are a succesful, winning franchise that consistently makes the playoffs. Like the Raiders used to be.

    MY POINT IS THEY KNOW THAT LINE PLAY IS PARAMOUNT TO SUCCESS. THEY MAKE THAT THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

    That is the point I am trying to make. The good teams in the NFL put a premium on good line play and they invest high picks to do it.

    We have largely ignored our lines for the last ten years and used retreads like Turdell Sands, Gerard Warren and Warren Sapp to play for us.

    The strategy did not work.Seymour and Kelly are embarrassing.

    You build the lines through the draft now. We can not afford any misses which is why we need high picks to improve our chances.

  • 504 Raider

    Happy Thanksgiving Nation!!!

    This should brighten your day:

    Paul Tagliabue will save the Raiders. Tagliabue will make a ruling soon on Gregg Williams to probably reinstate him in February after the Super Bowl.

    He will then be re-united with his former understudy DA in Oakland. I do believe that Williams’ contract with Fisher and the Rams was voided due to the suspension plus Fisher has moved on.

    Tarver will get Canned and DA will bring in Williams which will give us a killer (no bounty pun intended) defense. It will happen.

    Now what we do with Knapp is anyone’s guess. Personally I don’t want him back but I believe he will be given another year with the addition of a whole new slate of O-Linemen.

  • The Big Banana

    Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

  • The Big Banana

    Get rid of the Krapp!

  • VanHeathen30

    504…I’ll take Williams on the staff if he puts a bounty on DA…

  • 504 Raider

    If we get Williams, that first joint practice with the 49ers would be must see TV.

  • 303Raider

    Happy ThanksGiving Raider Nation!!!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Charlie Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 9:50 am
    RaiderO

    Your comments about Super Bowls and the Steelers further supports your limited understanding of the point I am trying to make.(If you did not notice they have won two SuperBowls and been in a third in the last seven years).
    What is the Steelers winning percentage OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS? That is the key metric. They are a succesful, winning franchise that consistently makes the playoffs. Like the Raiders used to be.

    MY POINT IS THEY KNOW THAT LINE PLAY IS PARAMOUNT TO SUCCESS. THEY MAKE THAT THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

    That is the point I am trying to make. The good teams in the NFL put a premium on good line play and they invest high picks to do it.

    We have largely ignored our lines for the last ten years and used retreads like Turdell Sands, Gerard Warren and Warren Sapp to play for us.

    The strategy did not work.Seymour and Kelly are embarrassing.

    You build the lines through the draft now. We can not afford any misses which is why we need high picks to improve our chances.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Btw, Happy Thanksgiving old man.
    You just don’t get it.
    1- we agree that we should invest high picks in our DL, so I’m not sure why you keep bringing it up.
    2- we disagree on investing high picks in our OL. You are ignoring the fact that the Steelers and Giants won 4 SBs in the last 7 years without investing high picks in their OL.
    The Colts won one without investing high picks in their OL. I’m not saying we should ignore our OL, but I don’t think we should invest high picks (1st and 2nd except for OT) especially now since we run the ZBS.

  • VanHeathen30

    Walt Coleman working the Det game…
    Just the sight of that guy makes my skin crawl.

  • 504 Raider

    JFB,

    If we get Williams, that would bode well for us drafting Eric Reid to QB our defense ala Darren Sharper.

    Huff would definitely remain at CB. And who knows we just might even get Nnamdi back or draft one in the third rnd.

  • 303Raider

    What a difference a year makes. Last year at this time we were in first place.

    F U Mark Davis!!!!!!!!!!

  • 504 Raider

    The O-Line will be addressed via free agency and late round picks. I think we trade down in the first rnd to get multiple picks. We are picking Eric Reid and a pass rusher. A QB could also be in our plans depending on what we do with Pryor between now and April.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Charlie,

    Our team lacks talent and impact players. We need DE, DT/ NT, CB, LB, and S. We also need to upgrade our offense especially our OL.
    -Can we find defensive impact players in mid-low rounds? It’s possible but the odds are not good.
    - can we find good OL (OGs & Cs) in later rounds? Yes, and it happens on regular basis.
    It’s not complicated.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    From my insider,..the brass are allowing Palmer one more start, and only due to the opponent,..after that its Pryor the rest of the way,…print that kiddies. By the way Pryor will not get his first win this year and will be released along with about 15 other losers the day after the Charger loss. Oh by the way happy Thanksgiving.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 am

    Raiders RB’s not named McFadden have 65 carries for 312 yards, at 4.8 ypc.

    Throw in that Darren leads the team in dropped passes, and is the only ball-carrier that lost a fumble this season, and therein lies to the biggest liability to the 2012 Oakland Raiders.

    McNinny
    =================================

    Thank you. McFadden has been turrible. I don’t want to see him near the field.