Two added to injury report, one removed
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, November 22nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders removed wide receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring) from the injury report Thanksgiving Day. That positive news was offset by running back Taiwan Jones (ankle) and defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) being added to the injury report.
Perhaps of more import, running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour didn’t practice once again.
If none of those three practices Friday, it’s very unlikely that any of them will play Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals, especially considering they haven’t played the past two games or practiced for almost three weeks.
The Raiders have an abbreviated practice Friday and then head to the airport for the flight to Cincinnait.
– Twenty seven players that were on the Raiders roster for the final regular-season game last season no longer are on the 53-man roster.
Wide receiver Jacoby Ford still is with the Raiders, though he is on season-ending injured reserve and doesn’t count on the 53-man roster.
Thirteen of those 27 players no longer are in the NFL. Thirteen are playing for other teams. Ford is the 27th.
Waiving veteran outside linebacker Aaron Curry was the latest purging of players from the roster that coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie inherited.
– A blown coverage by outside linebacker Miles Burris against the Saints that resulted in a touchdown by Saints tight end Jimmy Graham can be chalked up to a rookie mistake, coach Dennis Allen said.
That wasn’t Burris’ lone issue against the Saints as he learns on the job — Burris has started all 10 games this season.
Burris allowed eight receptions for 63 yards and one touchdown on the eight times he was targeted by Saints quarterback Drew Brees last Sunday, according to Pro Football Focus. Burris also missed two tackles.
– Allen isn’t making too much of the Raiders playing a game against a Bengals team that features his predecessor, Hue Jackson.
In fact, he hasn’t even mentioned anything to his players about the subject.
“We haven’t addressed it,” Allen said. “We’re playing the Cincinnati Bengals and we’ve got to worry about doing the things that we have to do to have success. We can’t worry about any of those outside distractions. And really, it’s not a major factor in the game. It’s going to be our players going out and our players executing against their team.”
– Allen has no issue with the schemes used by first-year defensive coordinator Jason Tarver. It’s on the players to do their part on a more consistent basis.
“It’s been the same the whole year,” Allen said, as far as his level of involvement in the defense. “We haven’t changed anything as far as how we call the games. I’ve been pleased with the play-calling, and we’ve just got to do a better job overall of getting the right execution.”
– 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith recorded 5 1/2 sacks against the Chicago Bears on Monday night. That total is half what the Raiders notched as a team their first 10 games.
For that paltry total to change much, Allen said, the Raiders need the defensive linemen tp play in concert, first and foremost.
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said. “Our guys can rush the passer, and we’ve just got to work together and understand how to work together as a four-man rush.”
Better coverage by linebackers and defensive backs also can augment the pass rush.
“It’s a combination of pass rush and pass coverage,” Allen said. “We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush, and those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
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November 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Nobody home?
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Do yourselves a favor and watch some tape of Pryor throwing the ball at Ohio St. You can youtube it. Then come back and talk about comparing him to Kaepernick, Newton, Griffith and Freeman.
I’d say he’s a better threat on the run than all those guys including Newton. He runs like a gazelle with his long stride and nifty moves but he throws a wobbly, inaccurate ball from what i’ve seen.
I don’t say this cuz I don’t like him.
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I happen to think you’re right about TP.
I haven’t seen evidence that he throws well enough to be a very successful NFL QB.
In fact, the evidence indicates just the opposite, as you point out, DJ.
Still, there’s only one way to find out for sure.
You put some plays and packages in for TP and ease him in.
You try to prep him and have him ready if Palmer goes down.
You do NOT have him inactive every week and have Matt Lice as the next man up, in a season that clearly is going nowhere.
You take a look. You try to develop.
For crying out loud, you’ve got absolutely nothing to lose.
Complete incompetence and UDDER FAILURE.
Across the board.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I’ll bet u Mark is thinking the same thing Raiderman. Dad picked up TP in the 3rd round and i’m sure he’d like to see what he can do.
It’s tempting to have hope for TP when u see these other young, athletic guys like Kapernick do what he’s doing and you start to think “Hmmmm, maybe we have one of those too”.
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While it is fun and romantic to think “wow let’s just put in Terrell Pryor and march to the playoffs” the reality is QB has not been a problem for us. Running back has been. We are the WORST running team in the league, which puts huge amounts of pressure on the QB position. Until that is fixed, why would you want to put a Q out there with no experience? That would be crazy especially considering how well your starting Q is playing.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When is this crap ever going to stop?
I read the same crap about Cam and Kaepernick B4 they were drafted…..yet Matt Leinart/Alex Smith is allowed to look like crap passing the football. Terrelle Pryor is twice the passer Alex Smith is and 10x’s the competitor. I said 2 weeks ago that Kaepernick was in thr process of stealing Smith’s job and everyoe in here laughed. None of you will admit that now.
The only difference between Kaepernick and Pryor is Pryor is faster and may be even more accurate. Kappy’s delivery is elongated and slow and he has a hard time taking somegthing off his passes he zips everything. Pryor throws with a lot more touch on short passes. But if I had a chance between the two I’d Pryor he just is all-around a better player.
I told every Niner fan I know that Smith time as a starter was in peril the moment they drafted Kapernick everybody said he’s just a runner. Smith is booboo always has been yet there are Niner fans who would rather have him because he looks the part.
That is the same stupidity taking place now in Oakland matt Leinart looks the part but in actuality he can’t carry Pryor’s jock. Unfortunately the OC likes Leinart.
I’m watching a rookie outplay a seasoned vet RGIII is dominating Dallas yes the same RGIII everyone in here said wouldn’t make it at this level. You know what comes to mind everytime I read this crap. I’m not even sure it’s worth saying……….but it is unmistakable.
I’m telling you all now Palmer will have a very hard time keeping Pryor on the bench come next fall. Just you watch…..all he needs is another offseason and preseason just like I told Greg Knapp. Who quite frankly agreed somewhat reluctantly.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
In fact, he hasn’t even mentioned anything to his players about the subject.
“We haven’t addressed it,” Allen said. “We’re playing the Cincinnati Bengals and we’ve got to worry about doing the things that we have to do to have success. We can’t worry about any of those outside distractions.
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Good for Allen. Cincy has a very good defensive line which matches up well against our suspect Oline. With no running game, that does not bode well.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
It really comes down to individual battles and we’ve got to win more individual battles.
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Yes, it does.
Also comes down to making the most out of the roster and not getting outcoached every freaking week.
That appears to be an individual battle we’re losing every week, as evidenced by 3rd quarter results.
Takes more than just ‘coach speak’ and cliches, titty boy.
UDDER FAILURE.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
lol…this guy is such a clown …the defense has sucked all year and they havent changed anything? Not only is DA dumb he is also incompetent…”i can see its not working but we will keep on doing it…” what a freakin idiot.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Kap is known as a guy who is a great passer. Has been one since his college days. Probably also has one of the strongest arms out of any young QB. He’ll break your hand.
Now TP? A solid, consistant passer? No. He can run though.
I only wish the Niners didn’t jump up and get Kap. He’s the real deal. TP, not so much.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I’m watching a rookie outplay a seasoned vet RGIII is dominating Dallas yes the same RGIII everyone in here said wouldn’t make it at this level. You know what comes to mind everytime I read this crap. I’m not even sure it’s worth saying……….but it is unmistakable.
I’m telling you all now Palmer will have a very hard time keeping Pryor on the bench come next fall. Just you watch…..all he needs is another offseason and preseason just like I told Greg Knapp. Who quite frankly agreed somewhat reluctantly.
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RGIII is an incredibly ACCURATE passer. He was incredibly accurate coming out of college. That’s why he went #2 overall behind ANOTHER incredibly accurate passer. Carson Palmer has led the NFL in completion percentage, was a Heisman winner and also incredibly accurate coming out of college. Pryor has never been known for his accuracy. In fact 32 teams had a shot at drafting him, and passed on him. Twice. Don’t get too excited.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Arian Foster is a perfect fit for the ZBS. He is patient and glides, then can quickly explode and escape. It is amazing that Knapp could not see that this is the antithesis of DMac! Maybe they knew in advance that we don’t have the rights players for this scheme (our QB is not mobile, we had no established TE’s and no real slot guy) We are not built for this strict “system” offense.
Seems like they were prepared to lose this year.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RGIII is ripping Dallas a new one, the same RGIII most of you said couldn’t make it at this level.
Sooner or later which ever suits you. Y’all are going to have to come to grips with this fact. These kids can play at this level. They’re NOT JUST ATHLETES trying to play QB they are QB’s who just happen to be great athletes…………period
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Priest, there is a very good chance TP won’t even be a Raider next year. Get used to it.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The Lions are taking all the penalties from us this year. We are not a threat anymore and are not dirty.
Great game in Detroit. Wild to see players coming through in clutch situations and actually executing.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Alex Smith was never known for his accuracy either. Neither was Kaepernick who was called just a runner……..what would you call him now?
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RGIII is ripping Dallas a new one, the same RGIII most of you said couldn’t make it at this level.
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Now all of a sudden with Kapernick playing well in one game, here comes the “running Q, running Q, running Q” flavor of the month. Yes, RGIII is ripping Dall-ass to pieces, but it is not his running. He is standing there and delivering. THAT, is what you have to do to be successful in this league. Palmer can do that. Now that teams will start to prepare for Kaepernick, can he do that? Pryor I don’t think can do that.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Alex Smith was never known for his accuracy either. Neither was Kaepernick who was called just a runner……..what would you call him now?
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No one ever called Kap just a runner. No one I’ve ever talked to. Where do you get your info? He has always been known as a complete QB.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Alex Smith was never known for his accuracy either.
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Smith was certainly always thought of as an accurate passer. And he has been an accurate passer at this level. The knock on Smith was he played only in a spread offense, and some scouts did not think he could play in a pro style offense.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Jim Schwartz failed with that red flag and trying to kick a 47 yard FG on THIRd Down !
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
When I watch RGIII throw the football Aaron Rodgers comes to mind I said that B4 he was a junior in college. Very few QB’s have that kids accuracy including Andrew Luck. I have never said Pryor was super accurate what I am saying is he is way more accurate than people think he is.He is as accurate as many starting QB’s in this league definitely more accurate than Leinart will EVER be.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Alex Smith is ø doomed
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Seems like they were prepared to lose this year.
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Doubt it.
Just too stupid and blind to see that what they were attempting to implement wouldn’t work.
If these clowns are back next year, we should be prepared for more of the same.
We’re obviously in a tough spot personnel wise.
But with Udder Failure in charge we’ve got no chance anyway.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Since Al lost out on Kap, he grasped at straws and took the knock off version. Terrelle Pryor.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Smith was certainly always thought of as an accurate passer. And he has been an accurate passer at this level. The knock on Smith was he played only in a spread offense, and some scouts did not think he could play in a pro style offense.
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Son you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Smith was drafted for his smarts and athleticism and he ahd a decent arm. I scouted that kid and rated behind Rodgers and Jason Campbell. The Niners just drafted the wrong guy and have been trying undraft him ever since he’s been there.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Smith was doomed the moment they rolled his sorry ass out there. he’s had every excuse known to man he has gotten 3 HC’s fired until he got a smart enough coach who would allow him to get him FIRED and that coqach has been trying to replace his sorry ass since he got there……….period
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
How can you not like watching RGIII play ?
Kid is just a pleasure to watch.
Plays smart. He’s exciting. Can do it all.
Gonna win some rings if he can stay healthy.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
You were a scout for the Raiders?
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Son you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
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Smith was 21-1 as a starter, always completed over 65% of his passes, and had over 5 times as many TD’s than he had picks. He was 4th in Heisman voting. Sounds pretty accurate to me. Go sit down, son.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Execution, such a novel concept.
I wonder how the Raiders would look if everyone was on the same page and running the plays as they are called.
Sigh… fantasy will never meet reality.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
And quit calling people “Son”. It makes you look like a buffoon.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mike Nolan HATED Alex Smith and so did Mike Singletary Jim Harbaugh just used so well he made people think he could play. That is why he gave up soo much to get Kappy. Go back and see what he gave up to get Kap it surprised a lot of people including Mr Davis.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
As long as Smith dinks and dunks he will always complete a lot of passes just don’t ask him to win a game with his arm.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RGIII is accurate now there’s a real QB not some system fit with a harness on him soo he can’t screw up.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I’ll give Dallas one thing, their cheerleaders are built. They have a specific body type they go after every year. The Chargers are up there too.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Execution, such a novel concept.
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What do I think of the 2012 Raiders’ execution ?
I’m all for it.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
After those comments by Allen, I’ve officially climbed the fence from the support side.
Not jumping over to fire DA side just yet though.
Staying on the fence but leaning hard.
Sounds almost as if he’s putting all the blame on the players.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Pretty funny that “the wave of the future” has such resistance.
LMFAO
Let Pryor play already.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
They’re too busy hoping Matt Leinart and Alex Smth get another chance to fail.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When is this crap ever going to stop?
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exactly priest–when will all this stupid pryor bullsh!t stop? it’s all u guys ever talk about. what the fu#k is ur problem? only a moron would look at the raiders and think qb is the problem.
it’s really fu#king easy. newton came in for claussen. rg3 came in for grossman. kaepernick is replacing a qb that the 49ers have always known was a bust. pryor is NOT replacing a guy on pace for almost 5k yards. get it thru ur head. ur brain is skipping on the same annoying groove and won’t move on.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Rob Ryan is working his magic for the Dallas Cowgirls. We have seen some BAAAD coaches come through these parts and Rob Ryan was one of the worst I remember. I am surprised after his stint here he was ever able to get a job.
Rendering a great line useless moving Sapp to D-End, to fit his scheme..sounds familiar?
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor.
there i did it for u. go eat some turkey and stfu!
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Not using Pryor is just one of a series of mistakes made by Allen.
Hiring Knapp, and not firing Knapp, being the two biggest.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor. pryor.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Sorry, but i’m all for getting rid of all the dumb arsse players who can’t get their damn assignments right.
Are you phuccing stupid, or what?
Our LBs giving up 100% of passes attempted on them?????
LMFAO
How is it the coaches fault that Burris and Wheeler get burnt EVERY time????
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
20.Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
When I watch RGIII throw the football Aaron Rodgers comes to mind I said that B4 he was a junior in college. Very few QB’s have that kids accuracy including Andrew Luck.
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That’s a Lie Priest. That would have been two years ago and all we heard from you QB wise two years ago was Troy Smith.
Just give Thanks and eat your food Priest. You always talking about how you “called it” before anyone else saw it coming.
And you still haven’t furnished me with those powerball numbers I asked you for the last couple years since you can see the future.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
If were were getting better we could be patient. But going from the 32nd worst defense team all last year to the 43rd worst defense this year is regression. And our offense was prided and poised last year to
take it up a notch this year. But the O was torpedoed and sunk and cant get up. Way to wreck the Raiders.
Mark hired Reg
Reg hired DA
DA hired knapp
Sh^t really does roll down hill.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Some people comparing TP to Kapernick or RG3. I think Terrel Pryor may be a good guy but PLEASE, let the man beat-out the 2nd string quarterback before you dub him the next Tom Brady.
Also we have some young wide receivers who can benefit from continued work and development from a vet QB. If we pair rookie and young WRs with a rookie QB, development could suffer.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Pryor vs the Lions…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb9udEjPKT0
Not using Criner is another of Allen’s mistakes….especially in the red zone.
Criner > DHB
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
If Palmer continues to play well and start fine. No problem, but when the season is lost to not look at Pryor is stupid. Next season may the best man win………period
I get the feeeling some are soo scared to see Pryor get a chance because they are afraid he just might outplay the starter………what an agenda!!
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Sorry, but i’m all for getting rid of all the dumb arsse players who can’t get their damn assignments right.
Are you phuccing stupid, or what?
Our LBs giving up 100% of passes attempted on them?????
LMFAO
How is it the coaches fault that Burris and Wheeler get burnt EVERY time????
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this blog has now entered the “stupid” zone. all of the idiots saying palmer is the problem, and no u go after the two best defensive players. this is ridiculous.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,”
Talk about deflecting blame, accountability and throwing your players under the bus.
Don’t think I have ever heard a comment like that from a coach. Maybe I am overreacting. More proof DA is clueless.
Sad thing though he is spot on. Not only does this D have no great speed rusher, I would not call them even average.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
SUPER LAWG, DAWGGIE STYLE. YOU KNOW A MIGHTY LAWG IS GONNA DROP AFTER ALL DAT TURKEY AND PIE. HOPE I CAN MAKE IT TO A TOILET FIRST. WORD.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
the best raiders this season:
palmer
reece
myers
wheeler
burris
find another route.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
How can you not like watching RGIII play ?
Kid is just a pleasure to watch.
Plays smart. He’s exciting. Can do it all.
Gonna win some rings if he can stay healthy.
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Yes sir, Rober Griffin can play football.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Just complete utter ridiculousness to not see what you have in Pryor.
What is it going to hurt? MAYBE we end up with a trade piece if the guy is at least better than a Sanchez, Gabbert, Leftwich, Wheeden, or any of these other LOSER QBs???
Why does Pryor have to be Manning to get a CHANCE?????
SMH
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
If Palmer continues to play well
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If Palmer is playing “well” as you say Priest-and he is-why would you want to replace him with with a third strong quarterback who can’t throw the ball?
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
There isn’t a single post saying Palmer is the problem……..where are you getting this from crybaby??
No one is complaining about Palmer they just want to see the kid play. Where is the Harm in that unless you’re scared he might cause a contraversy…….is that where your anger is coming from????
Crybaby!!
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
*string, fuk’n string.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Who is saying replace him what the hell ar eyou talking about. We want to see the kid get snaps what are you afraid of??
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Well, Robert ….
You are CLEARLY the most comical poster here.
I guess you missed the FACT that both our LBs gave up 100% of passes thrown against them. TDs scored against them. The ridiculous run totals given up to TB.
How on earth do you figure they are our best defenders? And if they are, so what? Best pieces of crap is about it, lol.
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RRRAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDERRRRRSSSSSS!!!!
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
LOL at the arsse clown trying to defend ANYONE on this defense.
How many points, yds, etc have this defense given up the past 3 weeks?
Our LBs are not good AT ALL.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
morilla Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I’ll give Dallas one thing, their cheerleaders are built. They have a specific body type they go after every year. The Chargers are up there too.
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LOL.
Fuk the dischargers!
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Burris is clearly struggling as of late.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
At least we aren’t Cowboy fans.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Priest, do you not have a family? You’ve been blogging all day.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
OK Nation! I’m not High.
We are going to the playoffs.
We will win theis weekend. That’s 4-7.
Then we home against Clev. win and 5-7.
Then we will have that biggie vs Denver but will be at home. We squeeze out a close one with a Jano FG. 6-7. Then at home again vs K.C. 7-7
Next we are off to east coast and will win our first out there since the big Bush game at Gruden’s Bucs. 8-7.
Then we learn from last year and riding high of being the hottest team in the League and go to San Diego and blow them out. 9-7. Wild Card baby!!! Who want some???
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Pocket passer throws another pick for Dallas.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
No one is complaining about Palmer they just want to see the kid play.
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This is pretty stupid. Raider fans are considered the dumbest fans on earth and reading what you bozo’s write sure shows why. Should the SF Giants bench Buster Posey to see what Hector Sanchez could do? smh
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
How would you know unless you’ve been here all day???
Why are you here now? No family?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
There isn’t a single post saying Palmer is the problem……..where are you getting this from crybaby??
No one is complaining about Palmer they just want to see the kid play. Where is the Harm in that unless you’re scared he might cause a contraversy…….is that where your anger is coming from????
Crybaby!!
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because NFL teams don’t replace their #1 qb who is on pace for almost 5k yards “to see what they have” with their #3. get it? why aren’t u clamot=ring to see what lucas nix has? or christo bilukidi? it’s just pryor all the f#king time. do u pay attention? why would the raiders put palmer on the bench? they’re trying desperately to win games.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
How would you know unless you’ve been here all day???
Why are you here now? No family?
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I just figured you had grandchildren you would be spending time with. I live to far away from my family.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Posey???
So Palmer is an MVP candidate and we are on our way to the SB???
LMFAO
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Burris hit the rookie wall.
I still like him.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
This is pretty stupid. Raider fans are considered the dumbest fans on earth and reading what you bozo’s write sure shows why. Should the SF Giants bench Buster Posey to see what Hector Sanchez could do? smh
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You don’t know much about Baseball all teams once the season is lost look at young prospects that have promise. It has no reflection on the starter they just want to get the young players some experience. This is not a novel idea it’s consistent wit sports history.
But for some reason the playing of Pryor once the season is lost seeems to draw the ire of certain posters
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
LOL at the arsse clown trying to defend ANYONE on this defense.
How many points, yds, etc have this defense given up the past 3 weeks?
Our LBs are not good AT ALL.
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it’s clear to me u don’t who to blame so u blame everyone. if u watched the games carefully and understood defense at all, u would know wheeler is the best player on the defense, and while burris has had some ups and downs, he has looked like a very promising player.
just get on the “seymour/kelly/mcclain/branch must go” bandwagon and feel safe that ur possibly on the right side of things. talkning smack about wheeler and burris is just dumb.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Jhill, they want to pretend that there isn’t common sense reasoning behind this but I know what the real reason for their resistence is………he doesn’t look the part. If he was someone they approved there would be no such resistence in fact they would be loooking forward to it with great anticipation.
They think we don’t know…….lol
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Why is it everyone elses fault we are losing except the QB.
Why does he have ZERO responsibility????
Game ending pick 6s? INTS every week?
Its always the WRs running the wrong routes.
The coaches calling the wrong plays.
Palmer family members, OBVIOUSLY, lol
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
This is pretty stupid. Raider fans are considered the dumbest fans on earth and reading what you bozo’s write sure shows why. Should the SF Giants bench Buster Posey to see what Hector Sanchez could do? smh
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You don’t know much about Baseball all teams once the season is lost look at young prospects that have promise. It has no reflection on the starter they just want to get the young players some experience. This is not a novel idea it’s consistent wit sports history.
But for some reason the playing of Pryor once the season is lost seeems to draw the ire of certain posters
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well, u have just proven that u are indeed mistic. using the baseball example of looking at young prospects was his angle a few weeks ago. and it’s such a specific and ridiculous example, that it’s clearly the same guy.
the NFL is NOT baseball. they don’t do it. only when it’s clear that a guy isn’t in their future, do they do it. there is simply no way they will sit palmer. and they won’t give pryor a few series either. they won’t create any confusion or controversy regarding their best player.
and they need wins. the owner is unhappy. DA isn’t gonna take a look at the future for another coach. he needs wins NOW and palmer gives him the best chance for that.
find something else to talk about. or better yet, go be a 49ers fan. they have a new black qb u can root for.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Posey???
So Palmer is an MVP candidate and we are on our way to the SB???
LMFAO
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I don’t think you bench your best player for a third stringer. Unless you don’t know what you are doing.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Why is it everyone elses fault we are losing except the QB.
Why does he have ZERO responsibility????
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Because we have the worst running game in the league. If you want to bench DMAC and use Pryor as a RB I am all for it. That makes sense.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Jhill, they want to pretend that there isn’t common sense reasoning behind this but I know what the real reason for their resistence is………he doesn’t look the part. If he was someone they approved there would be no such resistence in fact they would be loooking forward to it with great anticipation.
They think we don’t know…….lol
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oh, for fu#k’s sake. mistic rides again. get off the race bullsh!t. it’s fu#king tired. nobody gives a f#ck what his skin color is.
no nfl team EVER sits down a qb on pace for 5k yards and nearly 30 td’s to see what the #3 qb looks like. get it? that’s what the preseason is for.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
these people display their total ignorance every time they post. they are clearly not knowledgable football fans. just idiots getting on a rant and going with it. just dumb.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
doctor robert is right. NFL teams build for next year. There is no such thing as September call ups in the NFL. Pryor will get his chance in the preseason.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Robert, Priest is as biased as Mistic is. He just doesn’t flaunt it as much. He used to tell everyone that Michael Vick was a better QB than Elway and Steve Young.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
ABJ, I have my own reasons but prefer to keep them to myself……….but family is NOT an issue at all. I just like enjoying things the way I like to enjoy them at this point in my life.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Use or gawd dam imagination for crying out loud.
How much did Philly get for Kolb off what one good game?
One good game boosted the heck outta the stock of GBs backup QB.
NO ONE thought Kapernicky could play. They could shelf him the rest of the season and they would AT LEAST get a #2 pick for him.
What could it hurt to see if Pryor can play?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
albert–priest just showed his hand. he referred to the baseball example of calling up prospects when it was clear they were out of the hunt. those two are the only guys i have ever heard talk about that, as if it translates to football.
they are also the two guys who rail on and on about black qb’s and how unfair it is they aren’t given more chances, even when they suck.
they are the same person. different handle.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Use or gawd dam imagination for crying out loud.
How much did Philly get for Kolb off what one good game?
One good game boosted the heck outta the stock of GBs backup QB.
NO ONE thought Kapernicky could play. They could shelf him the rest of the season and they would AT LEAST get a #2 pick for him.
What could it hurt to see if Pryor can play?
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backups get a chance when the #1 is hurt. that’s what happened with kolb and kaepernick. why do these things have to be explained? are u retarded or something?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
ABJ, I have my own reasons but prefer to keep them to myself……….but family is NOT an issue at all. I just like enjoying things the way I like to enjoy them at this point in my life.
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That’s cool. Happy Thanksgiving.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Use or gawd dam imagination for crying out loud.
How much did Philly get for Kolb off what one good game?
One good game boosted the heck outta the stock of GBs backup QB.
NO ONE thought Kapernicky could play. They could shelf him the rest of the season and they would AT LEAST get a #2 pick for him.
What could it hurt to see if Pryor can play
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What would it hurt indeed? but for some reason people get aweful mad about it………..lol
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RG III is having quite a week.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
What could it hurt to see if Pryor can play?
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You don’t tank your end of year momentum to see if a third stringer can play. Unless you don’t want to coach in the NFL anymore.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
” we’ve got to worry about doing the things that we have to do to have success. We can’t worry about any of those outside distractions. And really, it’s not a major factor in the game. It’s going to be our players going out and our players executing against their team.”
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Was that Knute Rockne right there with that dose of inspiration?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
use ur tiny brains. if they sat palmer to “see what they had” with pryor, what would that say? would palmer feel he was the guy next year? wouldn’t everyone scream “quarterback controversy”?
it’s easy. DA doesn’t feel pryor is ready to be the guy. they are comitted to palmer.
if they’re comitted to palmer, why would they play pryor? i hopes he would do well so they can trade him? that’s worth all the bullsh!t they would create?
get a clue.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
backups get a chance when the #1 is hurt.
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or in the preseason. you Pryor fans can buy your preseason tickets and jump and shout for Pryor.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Momentum?????
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Jhill, they want to pretend that there isn’t common sense reasoning behind this but I know what the real reason for their resistence is………he doesn’t look the part. If he was someone they approved there would be no such resistence in fact they would be loooking forward to it with great anticipation.
They think we don’t know…….lol
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Jeeeeeeze! Get a grip already!
He’s a third string quarterback who can’t throw the ball.
He AINT Robert Griffin.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
and if you have a QB controversy other teams smell it and won’t pay for the quarterback they are dangling. Like tebow.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Use or gawd dam imagination for crying out loud.
How much did Philly get for Kolb off what one good game?
One good game boosted the heck outta the stock of GBs backup QB.
NO ONE thought Kapernicky could play. They could shelf him the rest of the season and they would AT LEAST get a #2 pick for him.
What could it hurt to see if Pryor can play
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What would it hurt indeed? but for some reason people get aweful mad about it………..lol
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yeah priest. that’s it u got us. we’re all racists and we don’t want pryor to play cuz he’s black. we’re afraid of seeing a black man succeed. is that what u want to hear? utterly stupid.
u come on here on thanksgiving and keep up the racist bullsh!t.
we get mad cuz it’s all u ever talk about. we don’t like u.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
use ur tiny brains. if they sat palmer to “see what they had” with pryor, what would that say? would palmer feel he was the guy next year? wouldn’t everyone scream “quarterback controversy”?
it’s easy. DA doesn’t feel pryor is ready to be the guy. they are comitted to palmer.
if they’re comitted to palmer, why would they play pryor? i hopes he would do well so they can trade him? that’s worth all the bullsh!t they would create?
get a clue.
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This poster is aweful mad??
Why so serious??
Palmer makes $11 mill maybe the can help his feelings some. Also you don’t know what DA thinks all you know is the thought of a contraversy scares the hell out of YOU!!!….period
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Know one really knows how good TP can be.
But, you might as well test drive the car in this crappy season.
I mean if he sucks, cut him, if he shows promise and is legit.
, why pay Palmer all that money in what I’ll probably be another tough, 8-8 at best season?
Mark Davis is a retard….
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Momentum?????
that’s what NFL teams do late in the season. they try to win games to build for next season. Indy won 2 of their last three games last year and now they are in the playoff hunt. They tried to win, not put in third stringers to see what they have. That’s stupid.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
why pay Palmer all that money
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That’s Hue “nails” Jackson’s gift to McKenzie.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
LOL @ “Pryor Fan”
I’m a Raider fan, bruh!
I see a team that is flawed all the way around, including the QB position. I am not going to turn a blind eye to the INTs.
Once again, all im saying is move Pryor to #2. Shelf Palmer to keep him healthy since the OL and WRs are a mess. Save Palmer for next year.
Please show us where anyone said cut Palmer or Pryor is better.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
use ur tiny brains. if they sat palmer to “see what they had” with pryor, what would that say? would palmer feel he was the guy next year? wouldn’t everyone scream “quarterback controversy”?
it’s easy. DA doesn’t feel pryor is ready to be the guy. they are comitted to palmer.
if they’re comitted to palmer, why would they play pryor? i hopes he would do well so they can trade him? that’s worth all the bullsh!t they would create?
get a clue.
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This poster is aweful mad??
Why so serious??
Palmer makes $11 mill maybe the can help his feelings some. Also you don’t know what DA thinks all you know is the thought of a contraversy scares the hell out of YOU!!!….period
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i’m SCARED? i’m mad? ur a joke dude. ur going with rhetoric that is passe. i’m not scared or mad about anything. i like pryor. i get tired of u. period. i think ur an idiot. period. get it?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
the next thing these bozos are going to say is the reason Pryor has not moved up the depth chart is because Reggie is racist.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
If Pryor was as good as RG III, almost every single guy on this blog would love to have him be the Raider QB. It’s just ridiculous to say there are Raider fans who don’t want to see a black QB.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Once again, all im saying is move Pryor to #2. Shelf Palmer to keep him healthy since the OL and WRs are a mess. Save Palmer for next year.
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is this ur first year watching football? have u ever seen the above happen?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Some of you needs to come clean, this isn’t a children’s blog although you wouldn’t know it sometimes.
Why would someone get so angry over a young prospect getting some snaps if the starter was sooo damn good? How could a QB contraversy take place with a great QB at the helm unless that QB aint so great…….and if that is the case why wuldn’t you welcome the competition?? Unless of course you don’t approve of the challenger….now that is the real question.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Griffin just threw a horrible 4th quarter INT. They should cut him.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Ok, fine.
Some of you aren’t on board with seeing Pryor, Criner, Bergstroms, or the young guys play in this lost season.
Makes absolutely zero sense to see if these guys can play.
SMH
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Priest..are you sure you’re Priest?
I’ve read a lot of your posts over time and you know something about football, so stop talking such fuk’n nonsense.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
the next thing these bozos are going to say is the reason Pryor has not moved up the depth chart is because Reggie is racist.
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i’m surprised we haven’t heard the “hates his own race/sellout” stuff yet. mistic/priest constantly use the tired rhetoric about whites being afraid “for some reason” that a black qb will succeed, blah blah blah. u know, cuz whitey is actually afraid of black dominance, etc. it’s a very old argument. but the same “pro-black” guys used to attack any black guy who wasn’t “keeping it real” and blindly supporting any and all blacks, cuz he was an uncle tom. i’m surprised they haven’t stopped to calling reggie a “house n!gger” yet.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
If Pryor was as good as RG III, almost every single guy on this blog would love to have him be the Raider QB. It’s just ridiculous to say there are Raider fans who don’t want to see a black QB.
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Oh WOW! who said that? please do tell, why are so many in such an uproar over something so common?
It’s common practice, tell me why are we arguing??
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
carson palmer 3rd in the nfl in passing yards. #4-6? stafford, brady, peyton. as soon as those players’ backups start getting looks, i’ll go with seeing pryor too.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
It IS possible for a rookie to come in and make a serious impact his first yr.
SF is a SB contender with the 2nd rated passer in the league and is willing to start a rookie like Kaepernick.
You look at RG3 and he’s considered to be an MVP candidate.
Who knows if Pryor is really that good. We don’t know until we see him in reg season action.
I say if we are 3-9, let’s say…and out of it, then let’s see what he can do.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Not one of you guys have said one thing to fix the run game. You GM’s next in line to Bill Polian might want to start there.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
You guys are protecting Palmer as if he’s Dan Marino, Palmer himself doesn’t object as fervantly as some in here do. If the season is lost most young up and coming QB’s get snaps what’s to complain about?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
carson palmer 9th in the nfl in passing tds. #10-12? rivers, roethlisberger, fitzpatrick. as soon as those players’ backups start getting looks, i’ll go with seeing pryor too.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
I’m all for seeing Pryor play at some point this season.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
If Pryor was as good as RG III, almost every single guy on this blog would love to have him be the Raider QB. It’s just ridiculous to say there are Raider fans who don’t want to see a black QB.
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Oh WOW! who said that? please do tell, why are so many in such an uproar over something so common?
It’s common practice, tell me why are we arguing??
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waht’s common practice? sitting the #1 to look at the #3 at the 10-game mark? idiotic.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I’m having a great fantasy day today. Calvin Johnson, RGIII, and Dez Bryant all having great days.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
It IS possible for a rookie to come in and make a serious impact his first yr.
SF is a SB contender with the 2nd rated passer in the league and is willing to start a rookie like Kaepernick.
You look at RG3 and he’s considered to be an MVP candidate.
Who knows if Pryor is really that good. We don’t know until we see him in reg season action.
I say if we are 3-9, let’s say…and out of it, then let’s see what he can do.
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makes sense to me….
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
You guys are protecting Palmer as if he’s Dan Marino, Palmer himself doesn’t object as fervantly as some in here do. If the season is lost most young up and coming QB’s get snaps what’s to complain about?
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liar
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Freaking Shanahan is choking this away.
I can’t believe this game is this close right now.
Dallas was down 35-13 and they are in a spot for a dman thanksgiving miracle.
Idiots.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Romo did his level best not to score.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Tony Romo is the Carson Palmer of the NFC.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
It IS possible for a rookie to come in and make a serious impact his first yr.
SF is a SB contender with the 2nd rated passer in the league and is willing to start a rookie like Kaepernick.
You look at RG3 and he’s considered to be an MVP candidate.
Who knows if Pryor is really that good. We don’t know until we see him in reg season action.
I say if we are 3-9, let’s say…and out of it, then let’s see what he can do.
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makes sense to me….
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at the 12 game mark, an nfl team sits their #1 to take a look at their #3? this makes sense to u? u have seen this before?
liar
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
LOL
Is this my first year watching football?
Honestly, I KNOW you just look at boxscores.
I remember your BS “my DVR erased the game” excuse when you got called out on “watching games” before.
Im not really in to the silly arsse back and forths, bruh. If you can’t pull yourself together and have a sensible discussion, then just feel free to wait for your boy Beech to come in.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
SF is a SB contender with the 2nd rated passer in the league and is willing to start a rookie like Kaepernick.
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alex smith is #29 in yardage. #14 in td’s.
nobody believes he is anything but an ok game manager.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I hate Dallas comebacks like this.
If I have to watch Jerry Jones slapping high fives after his team just made their biggest comeback in team history to save his thanksgiving and the Cowboys season…I will shoot…something.
Aaaargh.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
and alex smith lost his spot due to injury and when the #2 guy excelled.
not the #3 to “see what he looked like”.
they saw what he looked like in preseason and in practice. not happening.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
SF is a SB contender with the 2nd rated passer in the league and is willing to start a rookie like Kaepernick.
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alex smith is #29 in yardage. #14 in td’s.
nobody believes he is anything but an ok game manager.
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Where did I see he was 2nd rated passer?
I won’t argue with you, i thought that was the case.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
LOL
Is this my first year watching football?
Honestly, I KNOW you just look at boxscores.
I remember your BS “my DVR erased the game” excuse when you got called out on “watching games” before.
Im not really in to the silly arsse back and forths, bruh. If you can’t pull yourself together and have a sensible discussion, then just feel free to wait for your boy Beech to come in.
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ur arguing for a #1 to be sat for a look at the #3 for the first time in nfl history and u think i need get sensible?
u asked me earlier in the year, when i was telling u and everyone else how bad mcclain was, and u were defending him. u wanted to watch the game together. i told u i already had dumped it from my dvr, and u think that’s some crazy thing? why the f#ck would i save it? to prove to u that i knew mcclain sucked? well guess what? everyone knows mcclain sucks now. still gonna defend him?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
They play kappy a lot during the season because they wanted to get him snaps. Pryor case is very different our season is headed for the dumpster……..to not look at him would be a mistake.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
sometimes you need to dumb it down with Raider fan. Lets say you guys are coaching a Pop Warner team and your QB is pretty good but your team isn’t. But some of the players are going to come back next year. Do you bench your QB, your best player, because some parent wants to see their sucky kid play quarterback?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
I remember your BS “my DVR erased the game” excuse when you got called out on “watching games” before.
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ur a lying b1tch. i didn’t say my dvr dumped the game. i said I dumped it from my dvr. why the f#ck would i keep a game i already watched.
and u were talking about what a stud mccalin was.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
They play kappy a lot during the season because they wanted to get him snaps. Pryor case is very different our season is headed for the dumpster……..to not look at him would be a mistake.
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oh cmon priest. we don’t wanna see a black kid come in and do well. we’re scared. we can’t handle a black kid being awesome. we don’t like black people, don’t u know?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
After those comments by Allen, I’ve officially climbed the fence from the support side.
Not jumping over to fire DA side just yet though.
Staying on the fence but leaning hard.
Sounds almost as if he’s putting all the blame on the players.
……..
I think the entire organization is putting the blame on the players…
“Twenty seven players that were on the Raiders roster for the final regular-season game last season no longer are on the 53-man roster.
Wide receiver Jacoby Ford still is with the Raiders, though he is on season-ending injured reserve and doesn’t count on the 53-man roster.
Thirteen of those 27 players no longer are in the NFL. Thirteen are playing for other teams. Ford is the 27th.”
…and for good reason. The lack of talent on this team is staggering and it will take a few years to get the salary cap, depth, and talent necessary to win consistently.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
sitting a #1 to take a look at the #3. yes, this happens ALL THE TIME!
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Sucky kid/hot prospect u can’t understand the difference between the two? Then there’s nothing to discuss….move on!
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
sitting a #1 to take a look at the #3. yes, this happens ALL THE TIME!
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It happens all the time. Didn’t the miami heat sit Lebron james to look at some developmental league guy?
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Sucky kid/hot prospect u can’t understand the difference between the two?
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32 teams don’t pass on hot prospects twice.
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
sometimes you need to dumb it down with Raider fan. Lets say you guys are coaching a Pop Warner team and your QB is pretty good but your team isn’t. But some of the players are going to come back next year. Do you bench your QB, your best player, because some parent wants to see their sucky kid play quarterback?
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In today’s day and age that actually DOES happen more.
Remember, we don’t want any kids not getting their chance to play.
But seriously, we know Leinart…we don’t know Pryor.
IF u are out of contention, why not have a look see at Pryor.
I’m curious to see what he could do.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Have you seen one poster anxious to see Matt Leinart even though he’s #2?
But I read poster after poster anxious to see Pryor……….why is that? could it be upside, potential, excitment and bigplay ability?
I thiunk so…
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Griffin puts that ball in there damn near like that dart player from Alabama.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Thank goodness Dallas is gonna lose.
Whew.
Don’t choke on your turkey bone Jerry.
Hahahahahaha.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
32 teams don’t pass on hot prospects twice.
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Yes they do it happens all the time, it happened to Joe Montana……..thanks for listening!
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
They’re asking why Hall slid instead scoring…?
Because the game was over, why rub it in?
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
32 teams don’t pass on hot prospects twice.
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Yes they do it happens all the time, it happened to Joe Montana……..thanks for listening!
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Joe Montana wasn’t a “hot prospect”. plus he was in the draft where teams are competing against other teams for all the other players. Pryor went in the supplemental draft where it was just Pryor and the teams. If he was a “hot prospect” teams wouldn’t have passed on him again and again. You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
WHat? Griffin had greatest game of any QB all time and Mistic isn’t here ? how could that happen?
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I don’t like Hall but that was cool to see
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I want some Tebow time tonight.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
The point is they were passed over by teams who thought less of them and that pick does count against you the following year…..teams are way more reserved to take players high in the supplemental draft. Stands to reason you’ll rarely see a very talented player drafted quite as high as they would in the primary draft.
That aside where he was drafted makes no difference it’s what he brings to you team son. Can he help us win games that is what they need to decide and that’s tough to do accurately unless he plays. Plus many teams shied away knowing he would be suspended. and with his baggage. The point is we have him and fans are excited about seeing him perform…….what is the issue with you?
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
People do not want Pryor to play because he is an al David pick and the Reggie lovers do not care about winning and losing as long as Reggie and his guys are losing.if you are Dennis Allen and the d looks that bad I would give rhoutt,curry or anyone else at least a chance to help.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
chuck Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
People do not want Pryor to play because he is an al David pick and the Reggie lovers do not care about winning and losing as long as Reggie and his guys are losing.if you are Dennis Allen and the d looks that bad I would give rhoutt,curry or anyone else at least a chance to help.
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That is my opinion as well………winng games is all that matters. Who drafted them shouldn’t even be in your consciousness.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
YOu guys are ridiculous if you guys think they going to win games with Pryor LMAO
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Priest,..Pryor will never start a game here, or anywhere else…hes not a qb,…also I heard Reggie ate two whole turkeys today plus a turducken. Gross.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Uh, let his play determine that OK!
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
The point is they were passed over by teams who thought less of them and that pick does count against you the following year….
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my point is out of 32 teams 24 or 25 of them have very high (lst or high 2nd round) picks at quarterback. sure there is the Tom Brady and Tony Romo or even Joe Montana that came out of nowhere, but more likely it is a Steve Young who is a #1. Rarely do 32 teams miss badly at the quarterback position.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Ok I’ve had my fun time relax an enjoy the rest of the day………..adios
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Yo Priest before you head off to the mission for that free turkey dinner,..Pryor sucks and will never play qb. Happy Thanksgiving.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When is this crap ever going to stop?
I read the same crap about Cam and Kaepernick B4 they were drafted…..yet Matt Leinart/Alex Smith is allowed to look like crap passing the football. Terrelle Pryor is twice the passer Alex Smith is and 10x’s the competitor. I said 2 weeks ago that Kaepernick was in thr process of stealing Smith’s job and everyoe in here laughed. None of you will admit that now.
The only difference between Kaepernick and Pryor is Pryor is faster and may be even more accurate. Kappy’s delivery is elongated and slow and he has a hard time taking somegthing off his passes he zips everything. Pryor throws with a lot more touch on short passes. But if I had a chance between the two I’d Pryor he just is all-around a better player.
I told every Niner fan I know that Smith time as a starter was in peril the moment they drafted Kapernick everybody said he’s just a runner. Smith is booboo always has been yet there are Niner fans who would rather have him because he looks the part.
That is the same stupidity taking place now in Oakland matt Leinart looks the part but in actuality he can’t carry Pryor’s jock. Unfortunately the OC likes Leinart.
I’m watching a rookie outplay a seasoned vet RGIII is dominating Dallas yes the same RGIII everyone in here said wouldn’t make it at this level. You know what comes to mind everytime I read this crap. I’m not even sure it’s worth saying……….but it is unmistakable.
I’m telling you all now Palmer will have a very hard time keeping Pryor on the bench come next fall. Just you watch…..all he needs is another offseason and preseason just like I told Greg Knapp.
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Poor TP. The kiss of death. BHP likes him a lot.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Pryor might have a lot of potential , he’s not ready yet, if he gets fed to wolves behind this Oline , with these WR’s and no running game, that will just ruin his progress
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Pryor has a lot of potential…potential for making Priest look like an idiot.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I’m joking BHP. Happy thanksgiving.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
#140; virtually every guy on the Raiders roster has a track record of success or they wouldn’t be there. Conversely, dennis Allen has a track record of failure and/or mediocrity at best. The guy has NEVER displayed elite ability, knowledge or leadership. His shcemes have never been deemed good, great or adequate. He was a DC who coached poorly ranked defenses, period ! He have never made players better.
McKenzie was/is a moron for hiring that good ole boy network/proven loser. Allen in-turned followed suit and hired his proven loser friend and good ole boy associate Knapp. Hiring guys from the good ole boy network is the same as using a prevent defense while defending a 2 pt lead at the close of the 4th quarter. It’s a proven loser strategy, yet many in the league live and die by it.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Derek, you are also a proven loser.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Pryor might have a lot of potential , he’s not ready yet, if he gets fed to wolves behind this Oline , with these WR’s and no running game, that will just ruin his progress
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Good point.
Are you OK? You are making sense.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I dont want to ever see TP as our QB,…the kid doesnt look the part.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! Family and Friends are what’s important(although they can be a real pain in the azz)
Here’s my Raider Holiday Season Wish:
That DMAC gets healthy and has a couple of good games with a(hopefully improved O-line) before the end of the season in order to be kept around at least through next year.
I know I’m a homer as I’m an Bay Area/ Arkie guy but if anyone has doubt of his impact just watch the highlights of 2010-11 because he can truly be a game changer.
On the other hand, I completely understand that he may be traded away due to injury and system fit but who knows if Knapp will even be around next year so….
My wish is to keep DMAC, get rid of Knapp and build a better team for next year
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
McFadden would have been traded already but no team even offered up a 7th rounder for him,…that female dog will be cut the night of the Charger loss in 6 weeks. Wish they would cut him today.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
McFadden won’t be cut. They could get some draft picks for him.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
They tried to get a 5th rounder for her a month ago but couldnt,..she will be released in 6 weeks, right after the Charger loss.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Everyone wanting to see TP, you’ll get to see him play. ( if he’s even a Raider next year.)
You’ll see him in two years.
But you can keep blabbing your gums and wasting your energy posting the same stuff over and over again. I don’t know if I can put up with two years of this blog sh:t.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
You arent forced to be here moronilla,…nobody will miss you if you never visit here again.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
You arent forced to be here moronilla,…nobody will miss you if you never visit here again.
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I’m aware of that. No one here matters. None of this does.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Sanchize is hilarious. That was the worst play I’ve ever seen.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Priest matters,…hes the only person here whos head of scouting for an NFL team. Show some respect.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Derek Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
#140; virtually every guy on the Raiders roster has a track record of success or they wouldn’t be there. Conversely, dennis Allen has a track record of failure and/or mediocrity at best. The guy has NEVER displayed elite ability, knowledge or leadership.
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As your first assertion…..holy Toledo are you fuk’n kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As to your second assertion, Allen came here because of a track record of success albeit at lower levels.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Priest matters,…hes the only person here whos head of scouting for an NFL team. Show some respect.
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Heheh he touché.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Could be worse… we could be Jets fans. lol
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Not even the Raiders are as embarrassing as this Jets team.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
The Pats are gonna crack 60 tonight.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
My fantasy team is getting killed now because of the Jets.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Not even the Raiders are as embarrassing as this Jets team.
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I was talking about that yesterday to some friends (Jets fans). They agree, the Jets ate the new Raiders.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
They Jets “are” the new Raiders.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
They = the.
I hate my phone.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Your phone thinks you cant spell or type. Also the hatred is mutual between the two of you.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
I swear, this auto-correct is touchier than my last one. Either that or it’s too much wine. Could be a mix of both.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
jets are playing like da’s team…
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Happy Thanksgiving Nation…so who else thinks rex ryan will be our defensive coordinator after the jets fire him this offseason? lol Finally, a pathetic performance by a team other than my Raiders.
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Rex Ryan will be our DC next year, he would fit in in OAK.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Two added to injury report, one removed The Raiders removed wide receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring) from the injury report Thanksgiving Day. That positive news was offset by running back Taiwan Jones (ankle) and defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) being added to the injury report. Perhaps o… [...]
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
lenny krabschitz…what a one hit no talent wonder.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Reggie would never hire such a blabber mouth. And yeah, his defense rocks.
Rex is a cartoon of himself.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Happy Thanksgiving – NATION & CORK
Dudes everyone is Bad Mouthing Pryor and, how do you think
Stabler and Brady started.
Braddy started im a game Bledsoe go hurt and he came in and
Score and became the Masiah!
And the Snake Stabler came in the when The Mad Bomber got hurt and he was our Masiah!
Give Pryor a chance who knows if we have a MASIAH TOO!
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Lenny Kravitz sucks, but I think his NFL anthem song is the best of the bunch.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Omoran Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Happy Thanksgiving – NATION & CORK
Dudes everyone is Bad Mouthing Pryor and, how do you think
Stabler and Brady started.
Braddy started im a game Bledsoe go hurt and he came in and
Score and became the Masiah!
And the Snake Stabler came in the when The Mad Bomber got hurt and he was our Masiah!
Give Pryor a chance who knows if we have a MASIAH TOO!
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He’ll get his chance in two years. ( if he’s even still a Raider).
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
What the Raiders learned is trading for a veteran quarterback doesn’t automatically result in a trip to the playoffs. Palmer finished 4-5 as a starter last year and the Raiders finished 8-8. This year, the Raiders, at 3-7, have retreated from mediocrity and are back to that 5-11 range of a few years ago.
For those two high-value picks, Palmer is 7-12 and owner Mark Davis was beside himself with his anger over this disastrous season. Palmer has had five interceptions returned for touchdowns during his brief run with the Raiders. Palmer can still throw for 300 yards on any given Sunday, but the trade didn’t move improve the Raiders’ playoff hopes.
John Clayton
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Lenny Kravitz sucks, but I think his NFL anthem song is the best of the bunch.
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I would have to lean towards Cube out of all of them.
But sh:t they are all old rich people.
Would have loved to see Slayer do the Raiders, but no way.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
For those two high-value picks, Palmer is 7-12 and owner Mark Davis was beside himself with his anger over this disastrous season. Palmer has had five interceptions returned for touchdowns during his brief run with the Raiders.
John Clayton
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
For those two high-value picks, Palmer is 7-12 and owner Mark Davis was beside himself with his anger over this disastrous season. Palmer has had five interceptions returned for touchdowns during his brief run with the Raiders.
John Clayton
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Imagine if we had a shotty 2nd and 3rd stringer playing.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I PERSONALY THINK – That if all those players are Out ,and are
Not going to play Just Get Rid of All of them — Dump Them!
CLEAN THE HOUSE – REGGIE! GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY.
AIM AT THE HEART -RAMON —AIM AT THE HEART !!!
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
As bad as the Jets look, they need a QB.
We MIGHT have an extra one.
Don’t we need picks?
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
As bad as the Jets look, they need a QB.
We MIGHT have an extra one.
Don’t we need picks?
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How many do you really think we could get for TP? Maybe a hotdog and their kicker.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Imagine if we had a shotty 2nd and 3rd stringer playing.
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Could it really be any worse than the last 3 weeks?
Record setting blowout losses?
Get all the young guys some reps. Bilukidi, Bergstrom, Criner, Pryor to #2 and play him in blowouts.
Can Francies play corner? Keep MM34 in there instead of Gio.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
LOOKING — At Dennis Allen Press Con, He is saying the
Truth, He sounds like a Broken 1974 plastic Record Player!
DUDE Lets just Dump All those -LAZY S@B ‘S.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I don’t know why we could get for Pryor. Maybe not a damn thing.
Would’ve said the same thing about Kapernicky prior to the Bears game, right?
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
John Clayton doesn’t even watch any Raider games. He just narrow mindedly does what every other idiot in the national media does…look at the record and blame the QB.
Doesn’t even mention the defense…it’s all Palmer’s fault.
This is a TEAM game.
NO QB would be winning with this team…period. None.
That little dweeb azz turd needs to get his little old looking beanie head of his slapped off.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I don’t know why we could get for Pryor. Maybe not a damn thing.
Would’ve said the same thing about Kapernicky prior to the Bears game, right?
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Not really, Kap has always played well when in there. And he’s different than TP. More of a complete QB.
Im all for seeing TP. But it’s just not time.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
LETS–get New People here. !
Did you Guys see the A$$ Wippin Brady.gave them.
WHY -Because he is The Man and will go in there and
Finish the Job and Go Home!
Then WATCH IT ON E S P N.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
He was simply making the point that we CLEARLY intended for this trade to make us a playoff team based on the high draft picks we gave up.
He doesn’t address the whys such as Knapp or the defense.
It’s as simple as we gave up 2 high draft picks to make the playoffs, and we haven’t made the playoffs.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
WHY CAN ALL QBS BE LIKE BRADY
THROW 50 TIMES AND BEAT YOU 38 – 17
How can they throw on 1rst downs!
All their Runners Run Real Quick and Strech Foward for more!
GOODLUCK ALWAYS IS ON THEIR SIDE.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I only saw Kapernicky run the ball every now and then for SF.
3rd down and goal line gimmick stuff.
I only saw highlights though. I don’t watch actual 49r games.
Haven’t seen TP play either outside of the preseason.
I’m HOPING he can play and we can pull off a Philly type of highway robbery trade.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
WHY NO TEAM IS LIKE NEW ENGLAND BECAUSE THEY REALLY
WANTED BAD! SINCE NO QB WANTS TO BE BRADY -NO ONE CAN
BEAT BRADY.,BUT HIMSELF!
Since Palmer and the league is No Brady – Brady will Continue being Brady!
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
dr_robert Says
SF is a SB contender with the 2nd rated passer in the league and is willing to start a rookie like Kaepernick.
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alex smith is #29 in yardage. #14 in td’s.
nobody believes he is anything but an ok game manager.
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Where did I see he was 2nd rated passer?
I won’t argue with you, i thought that was the case
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#3 QB rating behind Rodgers and Manning.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I can’t wait till we have a punter that looks like a gangster:
https://instagr.am/p/Rqd6_OwB_N/media/?size=l
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
It looks like the MMA threw up all over him..
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Scrolling through the comments, the idea of cutting/trading DMac for peanuts and cutting/benching Palmer seem quite popular.
Forget the fact that we have the worst pass rush in the league. Forget that we have the worst defense in the league. Let’s focus on getting rid of our best offensive weapon and the first real QB we’ve had in a decade who is on pace for close to 5,000 yards and 30 TDs.
Let’s just hope that as pathetic as this coaching staff and leadership have been, they never listen to such silly suggestions.
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
You know who has thrown the most int’s returned for td’s in NFL history?
Brett Favre.
Talk about a guy who has played on some teams that were loaded with talent.
I love Favre as a player. The guy was an ironman…never could take him out of a game no matter how many hits he took.
A true gunslinger.
Remember Jeff George?
1997- 3,917 yd’s passing 29 td’s only 9 int’s. We were 4-12.
1999- With Minnesota he replaces Randall Cunningham who had led team to 2-4 start. George goes 8-2 the rest of the way throwing 23 td’s and 12 int’s. 2,800 passing yd’s. and a first round win over Tampa 27-10 then he lost in a shootout with Kurt Warner and the “greatest show on turf” 44-37 in the 2nd round.
How come George was able to go 8-2 and win a playoff game?
-Randy Moss (in his prime), and Cris Carter as his receivers as well as 1,000 yd. rusher Robert Smith (4.6 ypc.)
My point is, with a REAL TEAM behind him…a guy like George, who was unable to win games with anyone else, was able to when he had an actual team to play with.
You need a team. George had that brief chance to show what he could do if he actually had one.
We all know the talent Favre had his entire career to work with.
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
It’s probably true that IF we were 10-1 right now Palmer would be getting all of the credit.
It’s just the way the media is when it comes to QB’s.
They get all the blame when u lose…no matter if you have what could turn out to be the worst defense in league history statistically, and they tend to get all of the credit if the team wins.
Truth is you need a TEAM behind you no matter how good a QB you are.
I don’t know ANY SB winning QB who did it all himself…NONE.
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I could have told Rex Ryan the same thing I would have told DA before hiring their O.C’s…wtf are you doing? I watched plenty of Sparano, Sporano…whatever. These guys both have a cap on how creative they could be. Sure, Spo ran the wildcat but what happened after that?
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Scrolling through the comments, the idea of cutting/trading DMac for peanuts and cutting/benching Palmer seem quite popular.
Forget the fact that we have the worst pass rush in the league. Forget that we have the worst defense in the league. Let’s focus on getting rid of our best offensive weapon and the first real QB we’ve had in a decade who is on pace for close to 5,000 yards and 30 TDs.
Let’s just hope that as pathetic as this coaching staff and leadership have been, they never listen to such silly suggestions.
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About our often injured DMAC, he should be considered in a trade. He’s been hurt in both blocking schemes, so I wouldn’t look back on his departure as a mistake. If we were to draft a back who is durable and a bruiser who could carry the load at the expense of DMAC getting less touches, so be it. DMAC should be featured as the best complimentary back, ever. Reggie Bush when he was in New Orelans…something like that.
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Less and Less Excuses next year:
This year the excuse was no 1st/2nd rounder draft pic; no time to recruit a proper Offensive coordinator and no salary-cap room.
This off season we will have plenty of time to scoop up talent on the offensive coordinator position, so there should not be any excuses as to why the coaching is off.
We will at least a 1st rounder so there should be less of an excuse for talent drop-off; however draft picks do take time to develop
I’m not sure about the Salary-Cap next year, but hopefully it is more manageable so as to be less of an excuse for the lack of talent.
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I still see some of the regulars Reggie, Dennis Allen followers pining over them even though Hue Jackson has out performed them both. Must be love at first sight. Dennis Allen has yet to managed a kick off returner to get the ball past the twenty yard line on a consistent basis so how do you expect him to make gains on managing a team? Reggie and Dennis Allen do not get free passes here. If those that cannot see that Hue’s 8-8 is not far from 9-7 and the playoffs,those that argue personality over results, will have a difficult time comprehending this concept. If it disfavors the Raiders to handle a kick return and they routinely bring the ball short of the twenty yard line just down the ball and take the twenty yards.Mind you, this is a coaches decision.Good luck!
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Is it me, or does it sometimes feel like being a Raider fan is the equivalent to living in a 3rd world country?
Teams like the Packers, Steelers, Giants and Patriots, field teams, year in and year out that compete to get to a Superbowl and not just a wildcard.
It’s like dreaming of living in the United States, when you live in Uzefukitstan.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Miami,
I hear ya.
At this point, and i know it sounds greedy of me, but i just wanna get to the point where we aren’t getting embarrassed and humiliated every week.
How about a win?
Why does that seem so unobtainable?
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Is it me, or does it sometimes feel like being a Raider fan is the equivalent to living in a 3rd world country? ==== You already live in a 3rd world country. Thanks to the White House Mongrel.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Dmac is often injured because when he’s healthy they run him in the ground. They rely on him for everything and there’s no real time share. In that first game against SD they handed it off to him almost every play and if they weren’t handing it off to him they were throwing it to him. I believe he caught 13 passes that day on 18 targets? When you touch the ball that much your getting hit that much more and your body starts to wear down… he’s an exceptional athlete but he’s still human and not invincible ya know? In this league you can’t get by with a work horse back because players get bigger faster and stronger each year you have to have a time share or eventually your star back will get hurt. To trade Dmac for a 2nd or first would be silly because theres no guarantee that player will pan out. Dmac has proven when he’s healthy and has an competent OC around him he’s one of the top backs in this league, but that 1st or 2nd rounder may turn out to be jamarcus Russel or Mike Mitchell … point being you never trade a proven talent for a unproven one. And another,thing Dmac has never been soft he only goes out of bounds instead of fighting for the extra 2 yards because DA told him to to prevent getting hurt, saying those extra 2 yards aren’t worth it.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
SUPER DAWG JUST DROPPED ANOTHER SUPER LAWG. ONE OF MY DUECE LAWGS LOOKED LIKE A TURKEY LEG. WORD. SHOULD I PUT IT BACK ON THE PLATTER?
JUST KEEPIN IT FO REALZ. WHUT?
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
I miss my mini pin. He loved Thanksgiving.
I’m thankful that he didn’t suffer.
RIP Farón (my best friend)
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Jets fans living the same dream as Raider fans – nightmares.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Post 230 spoken like a true p#aggot! Lol your mother should have swallowed you, or better yet your father should of flushed you.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I have no clue. Embarassing and humiliating shouldn’t be words that are associated with the play of any team/organazation that hires professionals/experts to assemble the best players to win, win now…not in 10 years.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
We might be getting a laff at the Jets tonight, but in reality if we played them this yr. they would probably beat our azz.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Bay Area reporters are the biggest wusses in sports.
Listen to the post game with Rex and how he is challenged by those NY reporters.
“How can u say Sanchez gives u the best opportunity to win when he goes the wrong way on a simple 4th and 1 dive play”?
Raider reporter:
“Coach. You inherited a bad situation…”
Raider reporters just hand our coach ready made excuses on a silver platter and NEVER challenge him.
Al Davis isn’t around to send hitmen to have u assasinated if you ask a tuff question of the coach.
Stop being such wusses.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
NY Reporter to Rex Ryan:
Q: “How do you justify remaining as HC next yr. after the way this team has performed and secondly do you really think you deserve to be back next yr.?”
Raider Reporter to Dennis Allen:
Q: “You inherited a bad situation here in Oakland…lack of draft picks and limitations due to the salary cap and so forth, and to most people these lopsided losses are understandable. How do you remain focus amid all this turmoil you’ve had to endure since you’ve been the Raiders coach”?
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 pm
The Mack Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Post 230 spoken like a true p#aggot! Lol your mother should have swallowed you, or better yet your father should of flushed you. **************** What will you do when they cut off your food stamps.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
In fairness to DA, he doesn’t fall back on any of the excuses the bay area media gift wraps for him.
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
i will be at the bengals game sunday.. im playing andy dalton and the law firm on my fantasy teams. i almost dont even want to go. this team is horrible. we need an entire new roster, top to bottom. i wouldnt keep one leftover from years past. start completely from scratch and that includes dumping palmer, dmoore, dmac, hell even all of our draft picks from this past year. just start COMPLETELY over. then i would understand a record like we have. 3-7 and our guys are all “ra ra! we can finish 9-7″ HAHAHAHA thats awesome! in reality we will finish 3-13. plain and simple we suck!
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
aryanation Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Is it me, or does it sometimes feel like being a Raider fan is the equivalent to living in a 3rd world country? ==== You already live in a 3rd world country. Thanks to the White House Mongrel.
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i agree with both of these comments.. that is 100% awesome!!!!
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 pm
our president is a socialist peter puffer. redestribution of wealth is the definition of democracy! HAHAHA
no seriously, its socialist..
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Remind me again how many teams we faced this year we should have beaten if Hue was here?
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
We could have beaten^^^^**^€
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
And based on what?
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Could we have beaten P manning if hue was here? Based on what ? How about healthy SD? Based on what? Flacco in Baltimore where they are 19-1 in last 20 games at home , TB with top 10 O , Drew Brees ? 9-1 falcons ?? Miami where we always last and last 38 something when we needed wins late in The season ? Okay explain which of these losses could we have avoided if Hue was here , and please don’t give me we might have score 3 more points with him
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Lost^^**
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
I want you guys realistically tell me which teams we could have beaten with Hue
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
I want you guys tell me how if DCO was kinda different than Tarver and DA, we would have put pressure on all these QBs ,which Dco could have turned Shaugnessy and Houston into Jared Allen and Julias Peppers , or which manager could have brough better players with the salary cap like ours
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
any takers ???
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Can’t wait to hear you guys answers
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Lmao @ post 240 I’m not on food stamps and never have been, but just like a true pale face p#aggot with a brain smaller then his needle stick you assume only people on food stamps support this president. Lol what a lame. I feel sorry for you and your kind.
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Hello??
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 am
Mc20 there’s a possibility hue could have done better with this team and defense based on the fact he’d been here 2 years and already had more of a pulse of the team. What DA is finding out now hue already knew, which is what I assume he was rambling about changing/fixing after that loss to SD last year. Having hue around would have been more helpful to Reggie as well because he knew who could play who couldn’t play, what positions they needed to improve most and which ones to leave alone. Hues knowledge would have given the guys at the top a head start on righting the ship because he knew what they needed Most already so I’m sure he’d of gotten all that he needed in the offseason and draft. I’m positive we’d of been more of a complete team if hue was around making us more competitive and prepared to take on better teams. It seems like we’re releasing players and scavenging the waiver wire every week which shows DA still is unsure about his personnel. Hue would of already had the right players in place by now. Not playing player roulette every week…
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Hello??
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Super Lawg reporting for duty, sir. Where would you like me to unload this Super Lawg? The latrine is 200 yards away, sir. Can I drop my drawers right here, sir, and drop a duece for you, sir. Just look out sir, that you do not step in it sir.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 am
DA sucks, so does his butt buddy, so does his game planning. They all stink like one of my Lawgs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 am
For example, hue stated he wanted to switch huff from safety to corner during the end of last season saying how he felt that’d be best for the team, Reggie and DA come in and say that’s nonsense only to later lose a corner and find out huff was best there anyway. It took them weeks. Into the season to find out what hue already knew the end of last season. Having hue around would have allowed huff a full offseason and camp working at that position making him better prepared for the season. Little things like that would have made us better.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 am
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 am
Mc20 there’s a possibility hue could have done better with this team and defense based on the fact he’d been here 2 years and already had more of a pulse of the team. What DA is finding out now hue already knew, which is what I assume he was rambling about changing/fixing after that loss to SD last year. Having hue around would have been more helpful to Reggie as well because he knew who could play who couldn’t play, what positions they needed to improve most and which ones to leave alone. Hues knowledge would have given the guys at the top a head start on righting the ship because he knew what they needed Most already so I’m sure he’d of gotten all that he needed in the offseason and draft. I’m positive we’d of been more of a complete team if hue was around making us more competitive and prepared to take on better teams. It seems like we’re releasing players and scavenging the waiver wire every week which shows DA still is unsure about his personnel. Hue would of already had the right players in place by now. Not playing player roulette every week…
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OKay so which moves could Hue have made with our salary cap situation and no draft pick until 3rd besides moving Huff to CB
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 am
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 am
For example, hue stated he wanted to switch huff from safety to corner during the end of last season saying how he felt that’d be best for the team, Reggie and DA come in and say that’s nonsense only to later lose a corner and find out huff was best there anyway. It took them weeks. Into the season to find out what hue already knew the end of last season. Having hue around would have allowed huff a full offseason and camp working at that position making him better prepared for the season. Little things like that would have made us better.
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So would that alone would have helped our secondary more? and who would have played at FS? which players could he have brought to help our pass rush?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 am
There is nothing really that tells based on last year that we could have beaten the teams we have lost against so far ,there is a possibility we could have had less wins than last year, not much to garner from last year other than we could beat weak teams,and could have done the same if the schedule was as favorable as last year, I know you guys listen to too much of these Radio guys and TV guys but that’s what they get paid for , to get fans riled up or get them too excited, if they were objectionable like this team really doesn’t have that much talent to beat the teams we have lost against, nobody would really listen to these guys, and I am not Hue hater either, i was one of you guys who thought we were turning the corner, and was drinking daily kool-aid and i really want to believe if Hue was here we could have done better, but nothing based on last year suggests that we could have beaten all these good teams that we have faced so far, yeah maybe we could of have lost close ones instead of blowouts if we scored more but still don’t see us beating the teams we have lost against under any of the conditions
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 am
looks like fangs finally was banned. he’s returned as what else…aryanation.
i wonder if he realizes that 95% of white people think white supremacists are idiots.
of course, missdick/priest thinks 95% of white people are white supremacists.
clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with u.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 am
I don’t know the man personally so idk who’d he’d of had in mind to take over the F’s spot but I’m sure he had somebody in mind or else he wouldn’t of considered moving huff. As far as pass rush. I don’t know who he’d of brought either because its not like I could sit and ask em I just know what I read. But looking at how he worked with the offense and built on their strengths and what they did well, if given the power I’d assume he’d of did the same with the D as well. And a lot of these games were winnable even with a Lac luster D, Atlanta, tampa, SD, were all winnable so its not like its impossible to win with the pieces we have, da just isn’t getting it done. Hue got a lot more out of these same players last year, there’s no reason to believe he wouldn’t have done the same this year.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 am
Super Lawg Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 am
Super Lawg reporting for duty, sir. Where would you like me to unload this Super Lawg?
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in a blog far, far away.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 am
hue failed miserably down the stretch. made it an easy decision for reggie. he basically said as much. any new gm wants to get his own guy. create his own team. so his success or failure isn’t determined by someone else’s decisions. pretty easy to understand. i don’t why people want to go on and on about hue. it’s over. he wasn’t bad, but not amazing either.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 am
so far, DA hasn’t set the world on fire. i like his demeanor and what he says sometimes, but the results have been poor. the team has “regressed”. lots of questionable decisions. lots of questionable playcalling. but we are probably going to see him back next season.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 am
questionable stuff by this regime:
moving wiz back to center.
not using ausberry more.
leaning on raw rookie streater too much.
not using pryor in some fashion.
knapp’s playcalling.
not getting a pass rusher.
not using burris as a pass rusher, like he was in college.
staying with mcclain.
cornerback depth ridiculously bad.
tarver’s playcalling/lack of inventiveness.
no backup long snapper?
franzies/adams returning kicks.
hoffman’s covergae units.
that is a lot of questionable/poor moves.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 am
why the f#ck haven’t they tried using burris as a pass rusher?
8 sacks as a senior and 9.5 as a junior.
DA says we don’t have a speed rusher on the edge. well f@king whtf are u waiting for?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 am
and why the f#ck did they activate curry for 2 weeks and then decide he wasn’t in their plans?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 am
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 am
I don’t know the man personally so idk who’d he’d of had in mind to take over the F’s spot but I’m sure he had somebody in mind or else he wouldn’t of considered moving huff. As far as pass rush. I don’t know who he’d of brought either because its not like I could sit and ask em I just know what I read. But looking at how he worked with the offense and built on their strengths and what they did well, if given the power I’d assume he’d of did the same with the D as well. And a lot of these games were winnable even with a Lac luster D, Atlanta, tampa, SD, were all winnable so its not like its impossible to win with the pieces we have, da just isn’t getting it done. Hue got a lot more out of these same players last year, there’s no reason to believe he wouldn’t have done the same this year.
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Yeah , no doubt he got DMAC and RUNNING game going with his scheme and stuff, but D isn’t like O , where you can scheme around one of your best player on that side, and it’s not any of our guys are great pass rushers that we’re under performing , where as everyone knows DMac is talented, you can’t really say the same for D players and say he could have brought some kinda D.co who could have used this or that guys pass rushing prowess to better advantage or used on of the ball hawking secondary players all over the field to create more turnovers, yeah ofcourse , maybe Palmer might not have thrown the Int in ATL game if Hue was Coach, and maybe HUE Could have had prepared a back up long snapper to go in for COndo in SD game, and yeah under HUE maybe Palmer wouldn’t have tried 61 P attempts , which led him to arm fatigue and Int in crucial situation , but it’s not like we really beat up on teams last year, we’re a few plays here and there by opposing team from going 5-11 last year, if Cutler doesn’t miss Chicago game , it’s possible we lose in week 12 , if Seymour doesn’t block KC FG that could have won the game for them , we’re couple of plays away from going winless in last 6 games
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 am
dr_robert Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 am
why the f#ck haven’t they tried using burris as a pass rusher?
8 sacks as a senior and 9.5 as a junior.
DA says we don’t have a speed rusher on the edge. well f@king whtf are u waiting for?
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You know you’re one of my favorite posters in here and i always agree with you , but considering the kinda competition Burris played against and where he was drafted, it’s obvious Burris isn’t that great of a pass rusher, otherwise he would have been drafted pretty high, since pass rush is premium and teams are always looking for pass rushers through draft
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 am
it will be interesting to see how dmc fares when he comes back.
cuz we’ve seen that reece has had success.
i have felt that the line has been poor, especially since they allow so much instant pressure on passing downs, but i have also said dmc just didn’t look the same this year.
he looked tentative and a step or two slower. i have a feeling his injuries have hurt him. if he still looks like garbage when he comes back, we will know the true culprit.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:18 am
Mc20 I don’t see why you do this to yourself. You start this convo about DA vs. Hue knowing you’re not gonna change anybody else’s mind and no one else is gonna change yours. Lol All I know is since the Day hue was hired as OC he did his job and we saw results/improvement. Since DA has been here we’ve seen regression, and what makes it worse is he’s a defensive coach and the defense is still the worse unit on the team. Smh Al hired hue to do 1 thing fix the offense and score more points, leaving the defense to him. We scored points and the O was entertaining he did his job. DA has done nothing right thus far…
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:18 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 am
dr_robert Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 am
why the f#ck haven’t they tried using burris as a pass rusher?
8 sacks as a senior and 9.5 as a junior.
DA says we don’t have a speed rusher on the edge. well f@king whtf are u waiting for?
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You know you’re one of my favorite posters in here and i always agree with you , but considering the kinda competition Burris played against and where he was drafted, it’s obvious Burris isn’t that great of a pass rusher, otherwise he would have been drafted pretty high, since pass rush is premium and teams are always looking for pass rushers through draft
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well, he’s undersized for one. and he’s white. basically, when u watched him rush the passer in college, he looked like a LB rushing from the corner and just beating slower OT’s. so i was pretty sure he wasn’t going to be a bigtime passrusher too. however, it’s worth a look cuz he is quicker than OT’s and he does have a knack for getting to the qb. yes, it was san diego state, but that’s not a horrible conference, just not the pac-12.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 am
I agree with people who are asking for DA’s head over his OC hiring, but i still don’t think any other OC would have had us going toe to toe against all these good teams, considering our worst pass rush other good QB’s would be going against…
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:21 am
basically, we’re 10 games in, we have zero pass rush, and u have a guy in the lineup who has played pretty well, and he has a history of getting to the qb. if u don’t wanna put him on the edge, how about some blitzes? i mean try something new, cuz we’ve seen what we have so far.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 am
i’m not happy with DA’s results so far. but i think it’s likely he will be back next season, simply cuz reggie thinks he’s the right man. he’ll be given time to get it right.
i do think mark davis is getting itchy though.
as for hue, who cares? it’s history. no way was he coming back after the team’s collapse and a new gm comes in. it was a done deal.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:26 am
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:18 am
Mc20 I don’t see why you do this to yourself. You start this convo about DA vs. Hue knowing you’re not gonna change anybody else’s mind and no one else is gonna change yours. Lol All I know is since the Day hue was hired as OC he did his job and we saw results/improvement. Since DA has been here we’ve seen regression, and what makes it worse is he’s a defensive coach and the defense is still the worse unit on the team. Smh Al hired hue to do 1 thing fix the offense and score more points, leaving the defense to him. We scored points and the O was entertaining he did his job. DA has done nothing right thus far…
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O and D is different, where in O you can beat ok D’s if you got really good Running game, and average passing , and beat all kinda D’s if you got good group of WR’s and good QB along with the Oline working together to give enough time for QB
D is different, you can have the good run D and very bad secondary and pass rush and you can win 50/50 games against average O’s, you really won’t beat Good passing O’s by just stopping the run , you would have to have very good secondary and very good pass rush, which we lack due to no pass rushers, it’s not like we have some Dmac on Dline that’s just being under utilized or something LOL
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:31 am
The Mack Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Lmao @ post 240 I’m not on food stamps and never have been, but just like a true pale face p#aggot with a brain smaller then his needle stick you assume only people on food stamps support this president. Lol what a lame. I feel sorry for you and your kind. === Only idiots like you support that POS
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 am
As far as O goes , yeah it has regressed, I don’t know how can you say we regressed on D, this is the same D from last year which couldn’t force 1 SD punt in week 17, and i don’t know how you guys believe some one else could have made this unit better, like based on what? Is some pass rusher underachieving? is some Ball hawk not being used right? you can believe Hue could have put 30+ points to offset what our D would have allowed , but there’s only couple of teams averaging over 30+ points this year, One of them is NE, you guys honestly believe we could have put up 30+ with this group of players and 40% of Mcfadden LMAO
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:33 am
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:31 am
The Mack Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Lmao @ post 240 I’m not on food stamps and never have been, but just like a true pale face p#aggot with a brain smaller then his needle stick you assume only people on food stamps support this president. Lol what a lame. I feel sorry for you and your kind. === Only idiots like you support that POS
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What a phaggot, like whats your point on here? nobody real cares for your BS, get a life
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 am
You judge hue as if he only coached with us last year, he coached with us the year before and we swept the division with Bruce gradkowski and Jason Campbell at Qb for Pete sakes. Lmao that’s gotta count for something right? And that’s the year we went to donkey town and Dmac went for like a Buck 70 and 3 tubs. He coached that.
@doc Roberts, Dmac has toned it down because DA told him to so he doesn’t get hurt. I remember up where Dmac was saying how DA and Knapp informed him to run out of bounds instead of throwing his body out there for 2 extra yards, because they need him on the field more than they need 2 yards, as a matter of fact DA said it in one of his earlier press conferences near week 1. Ask cork about it next chat session.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:40 am
All I’m saying is DA deserves another year, to correct some of the stuff like hiring a better OC and better SP team coach, he can’t be the only guy who have made a bad choice in hiring one of his coaches, I’m pretty sure most of the top guys made some kinda mistakes in their first year with teams , you can’t say Bill Walsh didn’t bring new coaches in his 2nd year, or B Belichick didn’t change things in 2nd year, as far as getting blown out, what else do you expect with this D? you can change all the schemes you want, but QB’s will find wide open guys if they got like 10 seconds in pocket
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:42 am
this is fact:
dmc has looked bad.
reece has looked very good.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 am
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 am
You judge hue as if he only coached with us last year, he coached with us the year before and we swept the division with Bruce gradkowski and Jason Campbell at Qb for Pete sakes. Lmao that’s gotta count for something right? And that’s the year we went to donkey town and Dmac went for like a Buck 70 and 3 tubs. He coached that.
@doc Roberts, Dmac has toned it down because DA told him to so he doesn’t get hurt. I remember up where Dmac was saying how DA and Knapp informed him to run out of bounds instead of throwing his body out there for 2 extra yards, because they need him on the field more than they need 2 yards, as a matter of fact DA said it in one of his earlier press conferences near week 1. Ask cork about it next chat session.
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Division games are always 50/50 , we were due to sweep these teams plus save for SD our division wasn’t that great or anything , we only went 2-8 outside of division, which says a lot, and still it’s the same freaking problem, there wasn’t anything to carry over from 10 to 11 that told us we are going to make progress, all it proved was we were ok enough to beat weak teams , which proved true in 11, so far we haven’t faced schedule as favorable as those years
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 am
Not many wins came against good teams in 10 and 11, 2 of our 3 wins came against bad teams this year, nothing has changed, we still have horrible D since 2002
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 am
DmAC is always injured, so i don’t understand the love fest anymore, I wouldn’t be little bit worried if he’s not here next year, not durable enough to be paid all that money and to devise the whole scheme around
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:52 am
This team needs better talent, not new coach every single year
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:52 am
1 nation , have a good weekend
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 am
Post 285 yea reece looked darn good last week, it was his best game as a raider thus far but compare that game to dmacs best game as a raider… and with the holes he had last week whose to say Dmac wouldn’t have done better? I saw the best game the line has had thus far last week. But yea I like reece, just believe Dmac has more upside and I wouldn’t crown him king after just 2 games.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:12 am
They need to get Dmac help, they try to use him as a work horse back and run him thin, he needs to be teamed up with a complimentary back. I agree with you on the idea we need more talent but I also believe we can be a lil better than what we are. I understand losing but its the way we lose that says we lack talent and “leadership”. I don’t think DA will be back next year nor do I think he deserves to. The raiders need a hard @$$ like gruden, parcells, cowher and so forth who will demand their respect and hold them accountable, and I don’t see that in DA which h is why I feel he needs to go. He doesn’t fit what we need here.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 am
I know it looks ridiculous when you look at the outcomes , and say its the way been losing that’s upsetting you guys , but we have been losing like this for awhile against good teams, look at GB game, NE game last year, believe me it’s really not the coaching , it’s really the talent with this team, Gruden, Parcells ,Cowher all these guys don’t have track record working with rebuilding teams, hard to say they would succeed based on their success with teams which weren’t bad to begin their careers with ,if you think Gruden took over a bad raiders then look again, those Raiders weren’t really lacking in talent, before 98 we only had 2 seasons under 7 wins dating back to late 60s, Cowher took over pretty good Steelers team, last time I checked Bill Parcells was struggling with Cowboys in his last heading coaching job
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 am
Just think about it for a second we are hardly an average O and we have the weakest D in NFL ,how can you guys not expect to get blown out ?? Lmao
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 am
Well I’m out for good now lol catch up with the AM crew
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:17 am
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November 23rd, 2012 at 3:53 am
GOOD MORNING -+RAIDERNATION !
HAPPY BLACK FRIDAY TO ALL – U TOO CORK!
Lets all have fun out there this weekend and lets see if they can shuffle
Players around and maybe see a bit of Pryor this week.
RAIDERS need to sharpen and fucus on the last games.
We should start to TALK TO THE MAN IN THE MIRROR, and
Ask him to change his ways for they don’ t Stumble and Quiber
and make CHRITSMAS A BETTER HOLIDAY!
6:50 AM – FLORIDA TIME -JUST WAKE UP BABY!
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:53 am
Im pulling for us to go 6-0!!! Have Faith!!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:11 am
The Raiders removed wide receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring) from the injury report Thanksgiving Day. That positive news was offset by running back Taiwan Jones (ankle) and defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) being added to the injury report.
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DMo17 shouldn’t have any excuses then. His last game was crap and Palmer took the blame for it. It’s time for Denny to step up and deliver when Carson needs him most. The revenge game!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:12 am
Hey if we can win this weekend, when they start flashing the playoff picture, we will be at the bottom end of “in the hunt”.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 am
hey JFB, we have the same record as the almighty Eagles (3-7)
Dream Team!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 am
if we win and the Chargers lose, we’ll be tied with them too
who would have guessed we’d be tied with SD 11 games into the season in a “rebuilding” year with a rookie owner, GM, HC & DC ??
studs
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 am
oh yeah, and as I said all offseason long Marcel Reece is a better RB than Michael Bush
+2 for RRS
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 am
Mel Kiper was just on Mike and MIke.
Said he talked to a few teams and they all think Matt Barkley will be drafted in the 20-30 range.
Also said there is zero chance Te’o lasts past the 3rd pick, and he has talked to many teams who said right now they would take him #1 overall.
Scratch him off our draft wish list.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 am
Name we should watch for draft-wise if we are picking in the 6-10 range, Anthony Barr DE/OLB UCLA.
A complete dead ringer for Jason Taylor. Looks like him on the field, very angular, former offensive player, absolutely unblockable on the edge.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:29 am
RAIDERNATION -FACE THE FACTS-WE ARE ALL BLOODY UP AND SUCKER PUNCHED!
THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH IS WE ALL AGREE AS BROTHERS TO BLOG TOGHETHER!
TRUTH – WHAT IS TRUTH!
# (1) We all agree to-Clean the house.
# (2) Remove Certain coaches and make changes -Get rid off (Knapp)
# (3) Bench and Fine those Lazy and Undicipline Players who – hurt Us.
# (4) Give chance and make Changes to what Really Work for the Raiders last year!
# (5) Make Al Saunder carry the Offense of high (35) Pts.
# (6) Be ROUGH and TOUGH RAIDERS but Don’t make Stupid Penalties -(Fine them)
# (7) Let the Rookies and PRYOR loose Out of the Gate and just (Play Baby)
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:31 am
draft talk already, JFB?
it’s a new season. 6-0 baby!!
the Raiders will get hot in the winter time like the NY Giants always seem to.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 am
TRUTH – WHAT IS TRUTH!
# (1) We all agree to-Clean the house.
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Twenty seven players that were on the Raiders roster for the final regular-season game last season no longer are on the 53-man roster.
Wide receiver Jacoby Ford still is with the Raiders, though he is on season-ending injured reserve and doesn’t count on the 53-man roster.
Thirteen of those 27 players no longer are in the NFL. Thirteen are playing for other teams. Ford is the 27th.
Waiving veteran outside linebacker Aaron Curry was the latest purging of players from the roster that coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie inherited.
Attn: omoran
sounds like we already have!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 am
Just read every single comment the last two blog articles. Great work all in all the excellent debates. Especially this page. For instance, to the person demonstrating how if Hue stayed on we’d be better this year using the Huff at CB example.
Also, last year, with Wauffle as DL coach, we generated a lot of sacks and QB pressures/hits with the exact same DL. That’s another example of how it’s not the talent but the coaching. New DL coach, new DC, and they regress.
It’s very easy for Reggie and DA to blame the players as an excuse to protect their own image/cred, as an excuse to ride out of town all the Davis picks as tho that was the problem entirely.
It’s also a mistake of them to ride them out so quickly. You shouldn’t gut a roster this quickly. They think Mark Davis gave them a 10 year immunity, like they can just gut the roster, suck for another 3 years just so Reggie can play fantasy football bringing in entirely his ‘own’ players.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 am
i hate my fantasy football team in Dell’s league and it’s my own friggin fault… no consistency
you never know who is gonna show up!
Matt Forte, Michael Turner, Shonn Greene & LaRod Stephens-Howling at RB
Sidney Rice, Anquan Boldin, DeSean Jackson & Hakeem Nicks at WR
the guys you decide to bench are usually the ones that produce, lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:38 am
This supposed upcoming Reggie “state of the union” press conference will be interesting viewing. Isn’t it supposed to happen middle of next week?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 am
Next week.
Maybe we can get Amy Trask to jump up and applaude in the background like Pelosi does.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 am
the exact same DL, GG?
ShoNasty was on IR last year.
Moss, Scott, Wimbley & Henderson aren’t here anymore
Carter, Crawford, Bilukidi & Tollefson ??
half the D-Line is different
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 am
NATION – CORK -So GOD Love the World so much he gave his only
Beloved Son for us!
But also -So I love my Raiders so much Since (1967) that I lost my sleep!
BLESSED ARE THOSE RAIDERS FAN THAT LOVE THEM FOR YOURS IS
“The Kimdom of Heavens”
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 am
ever since Steve replaced Jerry as “blog pimp” you guys complain about everything. you dopes called him lazy and there he was giving us a new thread on Thanksgiving..
I’m thankful for you Steve. you know i’ve always had your back, brotha!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 am
The usual starting line-up at DL is essentially the same. (RDE)-Kelly-Seymour-Houston.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 am
Mel Kiper was just on Mike and MIke.
Said he talked to a few teams and they all think Matt Barkley will be drafted in the 20-30 range.
Also said there is zero chance Te’o lasts past the 3rd pick, and he has talked to many teams who said right now they would take him #1 overall.
Scratch him off our draft wish list.
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It’s still quite possible the Raiders get the #3 pick.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 am
It’s still quite possible the Raiders get the #3 pick.
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Ouch, ABP!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 am
Remember too, last year under Al/Bresnahan we were running mainly 4 man pressure. And we generated far more pressures, hits and sacks.
This year, with a new scheme, the same DL core + LBs has hardly achieved any pressure.
Al would’ve allowed Tarver to try his ‘exotic’ multi-looks and safety blitzes, but after seeing it get embarrassed so consistently he would’ve smacked Tarver around and worked on changes.
Reggie as GM, and Allen as HC, are still bashing their heads against the wall 12 weeks into the season running the same tired 15 yard deep safety blitzes and all the mass confusion going on among the DBs/LBs in zone coverage allowing a ton of big plays and 3rd and long conversions because the middle is so wide open.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 am
STORY – We were 325-125 loses! -2002 Best Record in the NFL.
We were- TOO GOOD TOO LONG!
So GOD SAID : Lets even things out and show them what my SON had said
He that has to many or 2 – Shall give one
He who laughs shall now Cry. And those who Cry shall npw Laugh! -So now we are Ending -10 years of (100) LOSES!
CAN ANYONE SEE THIS!
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 am
Hypothetical scenario:
If the Raiders were sitting at #3, and Te’o was available, and the Bears offered all their draft picks to move up and get him, would you make that trade?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 am
The Raiders need to lose to the Browns and Panthers so they can move up in the draft. If they lose bad to the Bengals this week, they should put in Pryor so they can tank the rest of the season.
BLOW FOR TE’O
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 am
Bleacher Report mock draft has the Raiders trading down with the Chargers to draft DE Bjoern Werner from Germany.
LOL
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 am
It’s come to the point that I can’t wait till the season ends. The off season is going to much more interesting than these turkey games we have to watch.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 am
How about we trade Palmer and Pryor to the Jets for Sanchez and a #2 pick?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:25 am
I think I won last week’s tipping contest.
This week…
Bengals 34
Raiders 16
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:27 am
Al RAIDERS RULE THE NFL AND MNF SINCE (1960) !
We hit and hurt other People and other NFL Teams.
Raiders Sued and Won beat the NFL and had THE BEST PLAYERS.
Now its OUR TURN TO CRY -100 times!
We Reign for 40 years 1960-2002 or so. After 40 years a new A
Pact with God must be made to Clean ourselves from this Curse! FOR IF YOU DON’T LISTEN TO GOD’S WORD WE WILL CONTINUE LIKE THIS! REPENT!
Changes MUST be made in the NAME OF GOD.
TO REMOVE THE BLACK EVIL COLOR OF THE WRONG DOINGS.
WE MUST OBEY- Change the stripes of the uniforms and the helmets leaving the White Stripe in the Center. Put GOD AND ANGEL COLORS ON TOP, OR THE (RAIBOW)
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 am
Omoran speaks the truth.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 am
Remember too, last year under Al/Bresnahan we were running mainly 4 man pressure. And we generated far more pressures, hits and sacks.
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I am no fan of the safety blitzes we are throwing out there, but last year our LB’s had over twice as many sacks as they do this year.
And that’s not even counting Wimbley who technically was considered an OLB.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 am
_327,shut up.SF Giants ring a bell w Black?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 am
Mark Davis needs to be sacrificed to the football gods to atone for his father’ sins.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 am
Raidernation – DUDES Don’t you see this is not normal and its Carrying into this Decade and 2013. CLEAN UP IN THE NAME OF GOD we can’t miss. Put or Add something to those Uniforms.
We need this Plague or Curse to Go Away!
Add at least Rainbow on Top Stripe of Helmets and White Center of Color. 7 Raobow colors. LEAVE THE BLACK ON UNIFORM BUT ADD THAT. A BALANCE FOR THE BLACK COLOR OR WRONG DUING AND HURTING OF OTHERS! BELEIVE ME IT WAS A .
***REVELATION *** ARCHANGEL -MICHEL
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 am
Raiders need to give Marcus Allen a job and hire Kyle Shanahan to coach. That may get us right with the gods.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:55 am
332,HaHa
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 am
Until we do this we can’t WIN. CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN -2013 IS COMING! Make changes or you SHALL SEE THE POWER OF GOD
“Let Allen Work and do GODS WORK for he is trying, but SOMETHING EVEL DOESN’T LET HIM. This Man is a GOOD Hearted
Family Man and GOD wll help him in his decisions .Pray pray and continue to pray.Reggie WAS BROUGHT FOR A MISSION !
EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A PURPOSE !
AND IT WAS A DARK MAN WHO HELP JESUS CARRY THE CROSS.
SO LET THEM AND HE FINISH GOD’S WORK. SO AL CAN BE HAPPY IN HEAVEN.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:52 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
If Palmer continues to play well and start fine. No problem, but when the season is lost to not look at Pryor is stupid.
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Amen!! I’m tired of hearing excuses to not play TP because he’s not a good passer…lol How would ANYONE know that until he was in an acutal game… I know preseason is preseason, but if you watched TP in those games this year, you had to be impressed and excited.
I see alot of people shooting TP down from even getting a chance on the field citing ‘QB isnt our problem’ which is true. But if you think Matt Leinert will get you a win if (god forbids) Palmer goes down, you’re sadly mistaken! No, we have WAY more problems than QB right now. But at this point in the season, its time to evaluate your roster. It wouldnt be a bad idea to preserve Palmer for next season and see what TP can do… If he cant perform well, then maybe axe him… But to never give him a shot is as dumb as hiring Knapp for a second go round!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:54 am
Raiders prepare for reunion with former coach
By JOSH DUBOW
AP Sports Writer
Published: Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012 – 2:27 pm
Last Modified: Thursday, Nov. 22, 2012 – 1:15 pm
ALAMEDA, Calif. — Hue Jackson made a big impact in his two seasons with the Oakland Raiders.
He helped revive Darren McFadden’s career, turned Darrius Heyward-Bey from a bust to a capable NFL receiver and sparked a moribund offense that was one of the most inept in the league before he arrived.
Jackson helped bring credibility back to Oakland first as offensive coordinator in 2010 and then head coach last season. But when Reggie McKenzie was hired as general manager last January, he overhauled the organization starting by firing Jackson after an 8-8 season and bringing in Dennis Allen.
The Raiders (3-6) will see their former coach again Sunday when they visit Cincinnati (5-5) to face the Bengals, where Jackson is an assistant secondary and special teams coach.
“I thought he was a great head coach,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “Obviously, it was time for a switch here with the new regime coming in, but I thought Hue was great and I think he will get another opportunity. There’s just guys you know, kind of like DA, you know he is going to be a head coach. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. Hue will be a head coach again because he is a great leader, he understands enough about the game to be a head coach but he’s also passionate. Guys follow him.”
Late owner Al Davis brought Jackson in to be offensive coordinator under coach Tom Cable for the 2010 season after Oakland finished second-to-last in scoring and yards per game the previous season.
The improvement under Jackson’s play-calling was immediate and the Raiders had developed into one of the NFL’s better offenses. In two seasons with Jackson running that side of the ball, Oakland ranked 10th in the league in scoring and first in rushing over that span.
“He’s a phenomenal play-caller,” Palmer said. “He does a great job of keeping defenses off-balance and surprising defenses with some new stuff.”
But the Raiders have fallen to 22nd in the league in scoring, averaging 3.2 fewer points per game, and are second-to-last in rushing with a drop of more than 62 yards per game from Jackson’s two years.
The biggest beneficiaries of Jackson’s offense were McFadden and Heyward-Bey. McFadden struggled his first two seasons after being picked fourth overall in 2008 as he was limited by injuries and a blocking system that didn’t suit his game.
One of the first things Jackson did when being hired by the Raiders was ask McFadden what were his favorite runs and using those power schemes more than the old system. After rushing for 856 yards with a 3.9 average in 15 games over his first two injury-filled seasons.
That all changed under Jackson’s leadership as McFadden had 1,771 yards rushing and a 5.3 average in 20 games in 2010-11.
“I felt like he helped me a whole lot, just building my confidence in the league and he gave me the opportunity to show folks I can go out there and run the ball the way I do,” McFadden said.
With the Raiders going back to more zone runs this season, McFadden has reverted back and is averaging just 3.3 yards per carry.
Heyward-Bey had just nine catches as a rookie the year before Jackson arrived as he struggled to hold onto balls. While never living up to his No. 7 draft status, Heyward-Bey finally emerged as a legitimate threat with 64 catches for 975 yards and four touchdowns last season.
“He just saw the work I put in,” Heyward-Bey said. “He believed in me. He was the type of coach that he will call plays because he wanted to see if you were going to make a play. He did that the years he was here.”
But despite his success on offense, Jackson was fired as head coach by McKenzie last January when Oakland fell one game short of the playoffs.
He ended up back in Cincinnati, where he had spent three years as an assistant previously, getting a taste of defense and special teams after being exclusively an offensive coach for most of his career.
“He’s a great technician as a coach and he sees the details and he sees the big picture. That’s why he’s so special as a coach. He can see both the detail work you have to have to be great but he can also see the entire big picture,” Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said. “It’s been great. I’ve missed him since he’s been gone and it’s great to have him back here.”
The roster in Oakland is quite different from the one Jackson last coached in the season finale against San Diego. Of the 53 players on the team for that game, more than half (27) are no longer active with the Raiders and the system has changed on both sides of the ball.
“I maybe can shed some light on a thing or two here or there, but at the end of the day it’s going to be two really good football teams out there playing and they’re going to do everything they can to win and we’re going to do everything we can to win,” Jackson said.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/21/5003139/raiders-prepare-for-reunion-with.html#mi_rss=Raiders#storylink=cpy
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:55 am
RAIDERNATION – DON’T YOU SEE FINGER POINTING OR DRAFT OR NOTHING HAS WORKED SO FAR SINCE AL( RIP) LEFT US.
I really think theres something BIGGER UP THERE!
Lets start by PRAYING TO GOD.
Then let the BLACK MAN sent by him to help us. JUST be Quiet and let him work, for thing don’t COME SO EASY FROM HEAVEN,
IF ITS NOT GIVEN FROM ABOVE.
Let he amongs you that has not Sin come forth and Cast the First Stone against this man( REGGIE)
GOD will help him and he will help us, he will put us in the track to the PROMISE LAND!
But remember these words –THE KINDOM OF HEAVENS IS NOT HERE OR THERE AND THERES NO TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT OR ANY HOUR. FOR NOT I NOR THE ANGEL KNOW WHEN IT SHALL COMETH BUT BE READY BECAUSE WHEN YOU BLINK ITS ALREADY HERE
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:59 am
Raiders have fallen so much, so quickly
By MONTE POOLE
The Oakland Tribune
Published: Thursday, Nov. 22, 2012 – 12:00 am
Last Modified: Thursday, Nov. 22, 2012 – 1:12 pm
It was exactly a year ago that the Raiders spent Thanksgiving Day in the midst of a three-game win streak throughout which they sat atop the AFC West.
Quarterback Carson Palmer, who had been plucked off the inactive list in October, was finding his timing and rounding into shape.
The field leader, Hue Jackson, was in the Coach of the Year conversation, even though a certain coach across the Bay was the front-runner.
And one year later, it’s all gone.
Oakland has fallen so far, so fast, nobody is better off. Not the Raiders, not Palmer, certainly not Jackson. Nobody has the look of a winner.
Jackson, who was fired by new general manager Reggie McKenzie, is an assistant in Cincinnati. Palmer is straining under the weight of turnovers committed while trying to carry the burden of an abysmal offense. And an Oakland team that needed an epic collapse to finish 2011 in a three-way tie for first place in the division – missing the playoffs by one play – is one of the five worst in the NFL.
Last November seems so long ago that even the memories are fuzzy. Most of the chatter about the 2012 Raiders implies the roster is rudderless and threadbare, failing mostly because the team lacks talent and depth. There are kernels of truth to that.
Following the evidence leads to a question: How did the ‘11 Raiders, with mostly the same starting cast, manage to reach first place in the division at this time last year?
With the Raiders making a trip to Cincinnati this weekend, I made several attempts to obtain answers from Jackson. Maybe he would be willing to explain what was going right last November, if not what he thinks might be wrong this season. Maybe he could shed some light, perhaps offer pointers to Dennis Allen, his replacement in Oakland.
After several conversations and text-messages, Jackson concluded it would not be in his best interest to share his opinions about the Raiders – or about his chances at the Cal coaching job. Though it is clear that being dismissed by the Raiders still stings, Jackson was reluctant to address the team’s myriad issues.
“I think I will pass on making a comment at this point,” Jackson said via text message. “I think it’s best for me to say as little as possible.”
Jackson did, however, point out that the current state of the Raiders helps any case he might wish to state.
They’ve lost seven of 10 this season and were not really competitive in the last three losses, which have come in succession. McKenzie, whose first major move was firing Jackson, is in the early stages of a comprehensive rebuilding of the organization. Allen, hired from Denver, is 10 games into the task of proving he’s the man to fix the franchise.
But, really, how much rebuilding and fixing should be necessary for a team that was so close to the 2011 playoffs?
It figured the Raiders might be better equipped to improve this season than last.
Running back Darren McFadden had developed into a star, though plagued by injury. Darrius Heyward-Bey, a first-round vanity project of late former owner Al Davis, emerged from Bustville to become a functional wide receiver. Fellow wideout Denarius Moore flashed tremendous promise.
Unlike 2011, this team would have a full offseason program and training camp, with Palmer participating throughout.
All the 2011 Raiders needed to reach the playoffs was an ordinary defense – only Buffalo in the AFC allowed more points – and surely in 2012 they could be at least ordinary under former defensive coordinator Allen.
But Oakland’s defense has been inconsistent against the run and worse against the pass. The improvement that seemed apparent in mid-October has dissolved into the same familiar rut of ineptitude seen last season and so many seasons before.
Two years after Jackson was installed as offensive coordinator and solved Oakland’s long-standing problem scoring points, that problem is back with a vengeance. The unit is a mess. Palmer is lost, so is Moore. McFadden was ineffective before sustaining an injury two weeks ago. DHB once again looks like a backup.
No doubt Jackson, whose coaching career was upended, believes the Raiders could have avoided these relapses had he returned and that everyone could have been satisfied.
The perception of Jackson as audacious and swaggering is understandably reinforced by his unwavering self-confidence. Is it possible he had reason to feel good about what he was doing, and where the Raiders might be headed?
They were winning behind a quarterback, Jason Campbell, few believed in before he sustained an injury, winning despite a defense coached by Chuck Bresnahan, with strict oversight from Al Davis before he died.
Jackson did acknowledge the deepest cut was not having the opportunity to assemble a defensive staff. He insists his candid end-of-season comments about making sweeping changes were spoken not as a megalomaniac GM but as a coach finally in position to identify and hire assistants of his choosing.
We know this: In the 17 years since returning to Oakland the Raiders have employed 10 head coaches, two of which made impact that was immediate and positive. Jon Gruden was traded after four seasons, none of which resulted in a losing record. Jackson was fired after one 8-8 season.
Gruden never threw stones, and Jackson is unwilling to launch his own.
But once again, the evidence reveals a franchise scrambling for answers and sinking in the wake of change.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/22/5003843/monte-poole-raiders-have-fallen.html#storylink=cpy
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:02 am
Btw, in Mark Davis post-game interview he made mention how he made a mistake. Ie, firing Hue.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:06 am
Hue “opened the can” on Reece, says Palmer better than ever
Former Raiders coach Hue Jackson, now an assistant defensive backs and assistant special teams coach with the Bengals, met with the Cincinnati media today. Here are some things he touched on, a few days before facing his old team from a year ago:
^ On Carson Palmer:
“He’s playing great. I think they have a really good player. I said that when he came to Oakland, and I still feel that way now. Carson’s a really good football player. There’s not a throw he can’t make.”
^ Giving the Bengals inside stuff on the Raiders:
“I am, but it’s not about that. We have great coordinators here. I maybe can shed some light on a thing or two here or there, but at the end of the day it’s going to be two really good football teams out there playing and they’re going to do everything they can to win and we’re going to do everything we can to win. It comes down to who wants it the most and blocking and tackling and catching and running and all those things you do during football games.”
^ The Raiders being a pass-first team now:
“Honestly I don’t want to comment because I’m not there. I don’t know exactly what’s going on. I know they have some very good players, I know the quarterback is playing extremely well. They’re rallying around him. Carson’s there to throw the ball because he knows how to throw the ball, and they have some weapons there. I’m not surprised. That’s a really good football team. They have some talent there and they’re throwing it all over the yard.”
^ On fullback Marcel Reece:
“He’s tremendous. I’ve said that. I think he’s a defensive matchup nightmare because he can do so many things well. The guy can run with the ball — obviously he proved that last week — he can catch it and run with it and he can block. He’s a talented, three-dimensional football player and he’s just blossoming now. I just kind of opened the can, and now they’re taking it to a whole other level. So they’re doing a good job with him.”
^ On this week’s game being special:
“Honestly, it’s really another football game. For me, it is. it has to be. You can’t get caught up in the emotional part of it because that’s not what this is about. This is about winning and losing. There’s a team that’s really hungry, very talented. They have some big-time players that are going to try to come here and win a game. And we’re finding ourselves and we have to do everything we can to win a football game.”
^ On coaching on the defensive side this year:
“It’s been great. Not very often do you get that opportunity. To be on the other side of the ball for 10 years, you get to look at it from a different viewpoint. I think everybody should have that opportunity to do that. Maybe not in the circumstances I’ve had to do it, but I think it’s good to learn. To me, that’s something I now can add to myself as a coach. I’ve really enjoyed coaching and being over there on defense and working with the defensive backs and helping on special teams. It’s really broadened my thought process as a football coach, so it’s really been great.”
^ More on Palmer:
“He can spin the ball like nobody can. He can throw a football and throw it well. I know the criticism of turnovers and the things that people say, but no one knows. I mean I don’t know if the receivers weren’t in the right spot or protections. I mean a lot of things go into interceptions that I don’t think people truly understand. But at the end of the day this is a really good football player. …
There’s other people that can throw it, but trust me, there’s not many than spin it like he can. He can really spin a football.
^ Is Palmer the same guy he was in 2005, his best season:
“I think he’s probably better, because he’s more mature. He probably understands the league a lot more. You’re not going to fool him with too many things. He’s probably seen it all and done it all. Again, he’s playing like everybody knows he can play. I know there’s a lot of yards there, and people will dispute that for whatever their reasons are, but when I watch him on tape, I see a really good football player.”
^ Is Palmer all the way back after knee and elbow injuries:
“He’s beyond that. He was beyond that a year ago. The guys’ tough, he a competitor, he takes care of his body, he loves the game, he works at it. Again, at the end of the day, he’s one of the guys in this league that you would like to have him because you know what he brings. He’s going to work every day and give you an honest day’s work.”
^ On being back together with Marvin Lewis:
“Me and Marvin go back a long way … I can talk to him and say things that maybe I wouldn’t say to anyone else. … So that part’s been really fun. And that’s what’s helped me grow. I’m probably a much better football coach than I was a year ago, and probably will be as I continue to go through this process.”
^ On getting a coordinator or head coach job next year — and being mentioned for the Cal opening:
“Whatever the next step is in my life is going to unfold. I try not to worry about any of that right now. What I’m trying to do is we’re worried about the Oakland Raiders, and that’s where I am right now. Try to take it just one step at a time. Whatever the future holds, it holds. I can’t worry about it at this point.”
^ On college job being intriguing:
“At this time what’s intriguing is beating the Oakland Raiders. That’s the only thing I can think about at this point.”
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/11/21/hue-jackson-opened-the-can-on-marcel-reece-says-palmer-better-than-ever/
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 am
GG
I liked Hue.
I also think Cable did a lot of good getting us out of the 2007 Kiffin free agent mess that he inherited.
The simple fact is that down the stretch last year we got pummelled by good teams giving up an average of 38 a game in our losses starting with the Miami game.
Our offense could not run late when it counted and on and on.
We had a team that we could not afford. Wimbley and Bush were major contributors.
I think you are on target with many of your comments but we have had massive talent holes on this team for the last ten years that no coach can overcome.
We simply do not have the talent on the line of scrimmage to compete with good teams in the NFL.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 am
Hue had his flaws, and we all tired of his routine.
The thing I mainly focus on that validates his retention and his ’star’ was that as soon as he came here as OC, he immediately took us from a putrid offense we’d been for years (thanks to Knapp v1.0) into one of the better ones. And it continued in his rookie HC season.
Hue struggled in his play-calling too. Remember all the aggravation we suffered in those games last season. Him doing silly things, not taking FGs to cement games against the Browns. Etc etc.
Al got it in his head to remove Cable asap, due to him bringing girls with him, and the violence against women thing. Saw enough in Hue he wanted to make a last dash for a playoffs and a super bowl with Hue as HC. Like Al said, it’s just about getting there, and then anything can happen.
The worst thing to happen to us was Cable losing the plot forcing Al to fire him. If Hue could of stayed OC for a second year under Cable.
Then the next worst thing was Al passing away a season too soon, and early in the season at that.
The next worst thing to happen was after all Hue did resurrecting this offense, the three stooges (Mark Reggie and Dennis) brought Knapp back to destroy it all over again.
The defense is the #1 problem anyway. But one can’t help but be tortured watching this offense too, the mismanagement of personnel, the play-calling, etc.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:29 am
– Allen has no issue with the schemes used by first-year defensive coordinator Jason Tarver. It’s on the players to do their part on a more consistent basis.
“It’s been the same the whole year,” Allen said, as far as his level of involvement in the defense. “We haven’t changed anything as far as how we call the games. I’ve been pleased with the play-calling, and we’ve just got to do a better job overall of getting the right execution.”
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That is some blinders on thinking there, plus I believe this counts as throwing his defensive roster under the bus.
Honestly I will not be surprised when Knapp comes back next year as OC.
DA is in full blame the players mode.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:31 am
omoran Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 am
STORY – We were 325-125 loses! -2002 Best Record in the NFL.
We were- TOO GOOD TOO LONG!
So GOD SAID : Lets even things out and show them what my SON had said
He that has to many or 2 – Shall give one
He who laughs shall now Cry. And those who Cry shall npw Laugh! -So now we are Ending -10 years of (100) LOSES!
CAN ANYONE SEE THIS!
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I can. It was prophesied by the ancients that a saviour (Al Davis) from the east (Brooklyn) would settle his tribe (Raiders) in the west (Oakland) and yey they would win many battles.
This semite warrior would have blessings from above and win praise and love from his flock (fans).
Due to his sins (bad draft picks and mismanaging contracts) yey he would suffer with 7 yr’s of darkness (7 straight losing seasons) after being denied the promised land (Super Bowl win in 2003).
Yey, the darkness would clear and usher in a time of plenty…but not before much suffering for the flock to atone for the semite warrior’s sins.
After the warriors demise a new saviour would rule, who would be the seed offspring of the semite warrior the ancients spoke of (Mark Davis)…the one spoketh of as having ‘head that looketh like bowl’.
This one will usher in new era of greatness and restoreth the tribe to greatness and proper place in the land.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:31 am
DA is quickly becoming one of the worst and/or most unliked Raiders HCs ever.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
Drexl. THEY SHOULD BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS. WE LACK TALENT!
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
“It’s been the same the whole year,” Allen said, as far as his level of involvement in the defense. “We haven’t changed anything as far as how we call the games. I’ve been pleased with the play-calling, and we’ve just got to do a better job overall of getting the right execution.”
“It’s a combination of pass rush and pass coverage,” Allen said. “We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush, and those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
Friends, that is as close as you will get to any coach saying WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TALENT ON THIS TEAM. Not my words, the words of a well respected NFL coach.
Perhaps, Callahan,Knapp, Allen, Tarver, Fox, Turner, Bresnahan, Marshall, Cable, Ryan, Walsh, Shell etc. etc. are all buffoons.
I think it should be obvious by now the problem is not coaching it is lack of talent. HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
I empathize with the frustration of losing since I have been a Raiders fan since 63′. We are not just losing. We are getting embarrassed. The punch line of Joan Rivers’ jokes. Bad very bad.
The cold hard reality is that there is no quick fix to ten tears of mismanagement.
I know many fans think that by changing coaches/schemes we can quickly turn this around.
We can not. This is a 3-5 year project because of the mismanagement that has occured for far too long.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:37 am
You think you hate Dennis Allen?…wait for fatboy Reggies upcoming PC,…he will tell you all that he hired Dennis for his “It” factor,..that no coaches will be let go in the off season…but the PC is a must see event, set your dvr`s,…because I am willing to bet fatboy Reggie still has turkey gravy all over his face and shirt days after Thanksgiving.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:40 am
Whats the line on Knapps return next year? I’m leaning 80% probability.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
Jongruden
You can talk coaching all you want.
We lack talent.
There is no quick fix.
Change coaches and schemes all you want. We have been doing that for ten years with the same results.
Let’s get better players.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
Wauffle generated a pass rush with essentially the same DL core.
The problem is coaching — Defensive Line coaching and Defensive Co-ordinator.
Getting more out of less is something all NFL coaches (position coaches, co-ordinators, and head coaches) have to deal with 24/7.
Al was right, and Mark was right recently, in the comments about there are no excuses due to salary cap or lack of roster talent.
Btw, there has been a drop in roster talent too…and no wonder, given Reggie/DA have been systematically gutting it all year. It’s now down to 27 left from the 53 last year. And Reggie’s choices, in FA acquisitions especially, has been underwhelming. There’s no indication yet if guys like Crawford and Bilukidi and Bergstrom even amount to anything.
And to back up a common topic…the OL/DL is THE most important facet of football. It is the center from which everything else comes from.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Knapp has a contract for three years, he will be here,…I agree with football people, the system is a great one, teams like Houston are taking that system to the superbowl…but when you have losers like DMC and countless others on the team, theres no chance at all,..Knapp is a great OC, but hes working with a roster that no college team would recruit. Period.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:45 am
Waufle had Wimbley, who changed everything up front….but fatboy Reggie decided to get rid of him. Check out the results on that brilliant move.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
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Seriously, get this guy out of here. Been making excuses all season, with zero results. You think the players don’t see this, him throwing them under the bus. This is about to get worse.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Knapp has a contract for three years, he will be here,…I agree with football people, the system is a great one, teams like Houston are taking that system to the superbowl…but when you have losers like DMC and countless others on the team, theres no chance at all,..Knapp is a great OC, but hes working with a roster that no college team would recruit. Period.
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Knapp is a great OC? What are you basing that comment on?
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 am
Lol, he’s also throwing Reggie under the bus hehe
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
GG
Your last line says it all and we have ignored that area for ten years.
9 of your starting 22 (41%) plays exclusively in the box.
OLines create time and space. Dlines destroy time and space.
THAT IS WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT. The rest of the pieces fill in the gaps.
A runner does not have the space and he looks like Dmac in Oakland; not Arkansas.
A linebacker fighting off Olineman that get to the second level looks like McClain in Oakland; not Alabama.
A QB without time looks like Brady against the Giants in a Super Bowl; not Brady against Oakland.
Do you really think we are going to be a consistently, strong, winning franchise building our lines with low round draft picks or free agents?
Taken to another extreme, do you think we will be able to beat our competition when they consistently use high picks to build this part of their team?
These are typically 270-320 pound athletes that need to have the agility and quickness of college level skill players. Do you really think you are likely to find premier or at least very good lineman in the fifth to seventh round or packing out at Wal Mart THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT OTHER NFL TEAMS HAVE?
Really?
You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I would strongly suggest that the laws of probability are against us. Better yet, we have a classic example of what that strategy gets us; The 2012 Oakland Raiders.
HINT: We need to build through the draft and expend enough high round draft picks on lineman to ensure superior line play. The way the Raiders used to do it.
We have 10 years of evidence to show that what we have been doing DOES NOT WORK!
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Charlie, 3-5 yr’s? Maybe that is what will end up happening but it doesn’t have to take that long.
If Reggie is as good as people say, it shouldn’t.
Maybe 3-5 yr’s for serious SB contention, but to at least get back to the playoffs and be a respected team, no GM’s are given that much leeway and low expectation.
I know guys here want to call our consecutibe 8-8 seasons a “mirage” and it didn’t really happen..(weak schedule BOTH years etc. etc.) but it is what it is.
He did not inheret a 2-14 team or an expansion team.
Even IF it was expansion team, Carolina went to NFC title game in year 3 of their existence.
Why should fans be patient and expect up to 5 yr’s to become a decent team? I’m not saying SB right away, but if Reggie is ANY GOOD AT ALL this can be done much quicker. And it should imo.
There is NO EXCUSE for being the laughingstock of the league after coming off 2 8-8 seasons no matter how many excuses people dig up to say how ‘unreal’ it was.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
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lol, yeah a lot of people have speed rushers. For instance, I do. When I’m standing in queue at the shopping mall, I whistle and my speed rusher comes crashing thru to move me up in the queue. Problems with the wife/girlfriend? No sweat, I just dial up my speed rusher and fixes it all for me.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
The most disconcerting thing about DA imo is that the worse things have gotten the farther into the sand he buries his head, as in shifting culpability to the players and even the GM in whining about a lack of talent. Shifting culpability away from his hand-picked coaching staff and their play-calling, to blame the players. He’s on the gravy train and maybe he thinks he can fool Reggie with his ruse. Or maybe Reggie is indeed that easy to fool. Glad Mark chimed in.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:45 am
Waufle had Wimbley, who changed everything up front….but fatboy Reggie decided to get rid of him. Check out the results on that brilliant move.
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Because keeping Wimbley would have resulted in $42 million in guaranteed money/cap hits. Too much money for too little of a player.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:01 am
GG Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
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lol, yeah a lot of people have speed rushers. For instance, I do. When I’m standing in queue at the shopping mall, I whistle and my speed rusher comes crashing thru to move me up in the queue. Problems with the wife/girlfriend? No sweat, I just dial up my speed rusher and fixes it all for me.
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Exactly. When youre HC jumps into the, “I could dunk if I had some Air Jordans” line of excuses, its pretty much over. This guy doesnt know what the hell he’s doing. And it shows in his desperation responses. We went from, “we’re almost there, we’re close” at the beginning of the season, to ““I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do”.
DA is toast.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
People keep saying we’ve been horrible “for a decade”.
That is exaggeration. the Raiders were in the 2003 SB, then had SEVEN seasons of losing…bad… but 7 is not decade and then things started to look better with the consecutive 8-8’s.
If you look at it on it’s face, the team was ‘on the rise’. Now? Bad…very bad. Bad contracts to clean up etc. and all of a sudden the team that was good enough to be “average” for two yr’s is a mess and devoid of talent.
I don’t believe the loss of a guy who basically had one good game last yr against a 3rd string lineman is the devastating loss some say; or by losing your backup rb was the huge loss some say. Or by losing Routt (not in the league now he’s so bad).
If Reggie is skilled, than we need to raise the expectations a bit and expect better than being the joke of the league right now with no hope for up to 5 yr’s.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:08 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
People keep saying we’ve been horrible “for a decade”.
That is exaggeration. the Raiders were in the 2003 SB, then had SEVEN seasons of losing…bad… but 7 is not decade and then things started to look better with the consecutive 8-8’s.
If you look at it on it’s face, the team was ‘on the rise’. Now? Bad…very bad. Bad contracts to clean up etc. and all of a sudden the team that was good enough to be “average” for two yr’s is a mess and devoid of talent.
I don’t believe the loss of a guy who basically had one good game last yr against a 3rd string lineman is the devastating loss some say; or by losing your backup rb was the huge loss some say. Or by losing Routt (not in the league now he’s so bad).
If Reggie is skilled, than we need to raise the expectations a bit and expect better than being the joke of the league right now with no hope for up to 5 yr’s.
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This. The team was on the rise, and the GM and staff said that they felt as much when they took over.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 am
If DA is toast, then the toaster will pop him up as soon as conclusion of the Bengals game.
He’s already making excuses for why they will lose this weekend before the game has even been played. He’s quite good at trying to paint himself the victim, getting the media to feel for him.
He’s a good guy, trying to fix the ways of evil degenerate Al, who built a talentless roster. Good to see other media outlets like Sacbee, Tafur etc are starting to see thru the BS and vivisect everything, whereas other media outlets *ahem* try their darndest to be chirpy and post superficially.
Reggie is a problem too, because he’s clearly as stubborn as Allen. His rookie year, and also doesn’t want to appear as tho he’s making mistakes, made a HC hire mistake, doesn’t regret any releases he made, etc.
A roster built for a type of offensive/defensive scheme can look talentless if tried to be forced into a whole other system. Reggie and DA are insistent on maintaining their chosen system here, and thus completing turning over the roster over a two-three year period until it’s 100% Reggie’s hand-picking.
And yes, there are a number of players that are dispensable, liabilities, and should be traded/cut. But it’s mostly the players newly brought in that have been underwhelming.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
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He had Von Miller last year, who is near the top in sacks this year and all he could manage was to field the 20th ranked defense.
This guy is full of excuses and cliches and devoid of acumen and direction.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
Boss01 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
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He had Von Miller last year, who is near the top in sacks this year and all he could manage was to field the 20th ranked defense.
This guy is full of excuses and cliches and devoid of acumen and direction.
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It might be safe to assume that Von Miller is responsible for getting DA a HC job.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
If my post on 358 does not convince you, then I think I have done everything I can.
I have been hearing about fans critiquing coaching since the 2002 season ended.
(The Super Bowl was played in 2003. The team was the 2002 Oakland Raiders. 2012-2002=10 years).
What was our record in 2003?(4-12)
Though I have a great deal of respect for Mr Davis and I will always be a Raider fan, even the most casual observer can not possibly think we have enough talent to compete.
If we were losing by a field goal or at least being competitive against good teams I could say maybe coaching is a factor.
We are getting blasted by good teams because we lack talent. Last year down the stretch we got crushed by good teams starting with Miami and everyone thought Bresnahan sucked.
Now Tarver sucks?
No, the players suck and we need to draft better.
Reggie has had less than one year with no high picks to fix ten years of mismanagement.
If you can not deal with our reality, don’t go to the games.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:56 am
I have it on high authority that Palmers final start is this Sunday…so there you have it. And no, Leinart isnt going to be the starter the remainder either,..so finally Priest will see what the kid has… (nothing)
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Kevin Boothe 6th round pick – seems to be doing well since Kiffen and Knapp let him go. These guys just need more time is all…. Right.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
With you Charlie!!!!
I like the big DT from Utah with the #1 pick.
Haven’t seen a LT I like that high.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:01 am
People need to stop apologizing for this group and demand results. Scheme coaches players don’t matter. Wins and losses do. Win and the fans believe – lose and they don’t. Al Davis understood this.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
They will be here,they have contracts? Bullsht!They will be fired as soon as the season is over.Contracts dont mean jack in the NFL never has.If you dont win you are as$ed OUT as fk.I cant remember anticipateing a fireing of a staff this badly sinse bed and breakfast. Get out get out get out!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
Someone is certainly getting fired.
Can’t see it being the whole staff though.
Some coaches, some players.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
I dont give a damn if there has been a hundred coaches here the last 10 years.That has nothing to do with whats going on this year.They are bums.Use the eye test people.DA out,Knapp out.Reggie hangs on one more year.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Reggie looks like a Grouper.Fkn retard.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
I am still conflicted about the DA situation.
On one hand I would not be against giving him another year the right the ship for continuity sake under the caveat that new competent assistants are hired with an influx of talent from the draft and market.
On the other hand I would not lose sleep or be against every single coach including Reggie getting axed in favor of an experienced and proven GM and HC.
Either way, I don’t trust Mark’s judgment or his 70+ year old advisers judgment to hire the right GM and HC anyway.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
I don’t understand how everyone hated hue and wanted him fired for “throwing the players under the bus” after the last game even though he went 8-8 with a roster you all think is devoid of talent and with an incompetent DC he didn’t want in Bresnahan. But with Reggie here and his supposed eye for talent DA gets a pass for throwing the team under the bus halfway through the season while he’s getting blown out every week and this team is nowhere near where hue had it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Reggie looks like a Grouper.Fkn retard.
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He may or not look like one, but you are a fkn retard.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
John David Booty Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
Boss01 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said.
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He had Von Miller last year, who is near the top in sacks this year and all he could manage was to field the 20th ranked defense.
This guy is full of excuses and cliches and devoid of acumen and direction.
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It might be safe to assume that Von Miller is responsible for getting DA a HC job.
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Mark’s stupid decision to allow Reggie to pick his own guy is what’s responsible. Reggie picks players, not coaches. Its still up in the air if he can even pick players. So far every single DB he has brought in has been garbage. Every single draft pick, except for maybe Burris even though he’s been owned the last two weeks, has been worthless. The only player he didn’t miss on was Wheeler, but he got him at the expense of losing a speed rusher. The Brisiel experiment has been a disaster and so far the DA HC decision has been an unmitigated disaster.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:56 am
I have it on high authority that Palmers final start is this Sunday…so there you have it. And no, Leinart isnt going to be the starter the remainder either,..so finally Priest will see what the kid has… (nothing)
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I actually believe that, but only if they lose.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
If Mark Davis can get Gruden here, then sure, bye everyone.
Short of that, I’m more focused on upgrading the roster.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
JHILL
I would like to see us trade down in the first round to pick up a second round pick.
At a minimum our first two picks need to be DE/DT depending on who is available.
We need Oline help but not as badly as on the dline.
(Bergstrom for Carlisle who will most likely retire?).
Seymour and Kelly will be gone next year. Horrible values.
All coaches will stay. The new Raiders do not allow the old end run of players going to ownership when they are actually held accountable.
More player house cleaning required.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:56 am
I have it on high authority that Palmers final start is this Sunday…so there you have it. And no, Leinart isnt going to be the starter the remainder either,..so finally Priest will see what the kid has… (nothing)
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Come on. Palmer is starting the rest of the year unless he gets hurt, except for maybe one or two games at the end.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
People keep saying we’ve been horrible “for a decade”.
That is exaggeration. the Raiders were in the 2003 SB, then had SEVEN seasons of losing…bad… but 7 is not decade and then things started to look better with the consecutive 8-8’s.
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Ok then. We have had 10 years of not winning.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
So who was supposed to pick the coach?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
The way things have played out for Palmer and the Raiders, this would be the game that Palmer gets injured.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
If Mark Davis can get Gruden here, then sure, bye everyone.
Short of that, I’m more focused on upgrading the roster.
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Pass on Gruden. The track record of coaches returning to their former teams is abysmal, and Gruden’s record in Tampa Bay after his first year defined “mediocre.”
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
379.SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
I don’t understand how everyone hated hue and wanted him fired for “throwing the players under the bus” after the last game even though he went 8-8 with a roster you all think is devoid of talent and with an incompetent DC he didn’t want in Bresnahan. But with Reggie here and his supposed eye for talent DA gets a pass for throwing the team under the bus halfway through the season while he’s getting blown out every week and this team is nowhere near where hue had it.
================================================== Hey I will explain it to you.The dumbest football fans in the world are this blog! Most of them are foreigners and dumbas$es with no football skills what so ever, which is made evident everytime they make excuse after excuse for this grouper looking GM with no real gm experiance.Simple.I have faith Mark will hire qualified people at seasons end.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Is Reggie actually having a press conference?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Either the owner or an experienced GM should pick the coach. Reggie is a rookie GM. He was given way too much power by Mark, you are seeing the end results before your eyes.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
So who was supposed to pick the coach?
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The GM is supposed to pick the coach. Al’s chronic mismanagement had brainwashed a lot of people into thinking the owner is SUPPOSED to pick the coach, dictate assistants and gameplans, etc, when the exact opposite is true.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
““I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do”.
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what a pu$$y DA is, blaming the d’s performance on a lack of talent. Reggie needs to fire his a$$. and yes seasons over, TP needs to get some run, he strikes me as a DHB type gna take a while but has a chance cuz he’s a hardworker. Was wrong about Kaepernick but honestly didn’t see alot of Kaepernick in college or the pro’s to make a good assessment. Did see alot of TP tho and don’t see the accuracy but like i said he’s a hard worker. To a comment Priest made earlier, if a lot of people were saying RGIII wasn’t gonna succeed that was a pretty bad assessment on there part but i would think most thought he would succeed, guy was always a stud
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
I would like to see us trade down in the first round to pick up a second round pick.
At a minimum our first two picks need to be DE/DT depending on who is available.
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I don’t think we can afford to trade down. Our Dline needs a top 5 player.
Houston and Bryant at DE with that kid from Utah in the middle???
Problems solved up front.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
380.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Reggie looks like a Grouper.Fkn retard.
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He may or not look like one, but you are a fkn retard.
==============================================================And your mother is a whore you fkn Reggie loving pzzy!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
Well you had a rookie owner too who said he knew nothing about the game.
GM HAS to pick the coach
Davis was the GM, he picked the coach.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
Patience is the prescription in Oakland
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/67159/patience-is-the-prescription-in-oakland
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Bill Williamson disagrees with most of you guys:
“Yet, Davis’ actions Sunday worried me. He made some rare public comments, spurred by the frustration of another blowout loss which dropped his team to 3-7. Among the things Davis told reporters was this: “I’m patient, but I want to see progress. Not regression. I’m embarrassed, pissed, disappointed and I take full responsibility.”
I know many Oakland fans were happy that Davis made those comments, and he is certainly entitled to his opinions. But there were some key parts of his media session that struck me. Saying he was seeking “progress” means that Davis may not have patience. He also mentioned that the team’s woes this season shouldn’t be pinned on the team’s salary-cap situation in the offseason. That can be interpreted as a direct knock on the job his team’s brass has done. “
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
The GM is supposed to pick the coach. Al’s chronic mismanagement had brainwashed a lot of people into thinking the owner is SUPPOSED to pick the coach, dictate assistants and gameplans, etc, when the exact opposite is true.
Another cok breath who predicted the playoffs this year.Shut up idiot! Stay away from them schoolyards to.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Pass on Gruden. The track record of coaches returning to their former teams is abysmal, and Gruden’s record in Tampa Bay after his first year defined “mediocre.”
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my first choice is david shaw if he’d do it, guy is getting the most out of his talent, learned under Harbaugh, runs a smashmouth physical style, and has raider ties. Gruden would be 2nd because he’s been away from the game for so long but who cares what the track record is of coaches coming back? If a coach is a good coach, he’s a good coach. It can be argued how good a coach Gruden is, but he always had Tampa competetive without ever having a good qb and we saw what he did here
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
The track record of coaches returning to their former teams is abysmal,
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True.
But in this case, I could understand the Davis’ doing it to sell out the stadium. You know how many Raider fans LOVE Gruden????
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Jesus H. Christ! Reggie shouldn’t have picked the coach. We should start Pryor. Hue Jackson. Do you know how stupid you idiots sound? lst off, of course the GM picks the head coach. It happens 100% of the time. What else were we going to do? Have some 8 year old pull a name out of a Raider lid at one of the Raider Image stores and go with that?
Do you know the number one best friend of a QB? Its called a running game. Yet you morons want to put in a journeyman guy who has never taken a snap out there with absolutely no running game, “just to see what he’s got”. I can tell you what he’s got with no running game: nothing.
Then there is Hue Jackson. Who got demoted. In Cincy. Idiots.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
“It will be in the best interest of the franchise if Davis simply allows his general manager and coach to grow. They are both first-timers in their positions. I suspect that’s what will happen, and I think it’s unlikely Davis will make changes there. But what if the losing continues in the final weeks of the season?
Exactly what kind of progress is Davis looking for? Will going 2-4 the rest of the way constitute progress? What if Oakland beats Cleveland and Kansas City at home but gets trounced in the other four games? Is that progress? “
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
Ooooooh. Oakfoshow the Internet Tough Guy is here, full of tough talk and no action. Think of how many people died on 9/11 while he lives. Shame, really.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
I’m pro Reggie and Davis, but the two of them sure are an odd looking couple:
http://espn.go.com/photo/2012/0731/nfl_a_mckenzie_ah_400.jpg
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
“If the Raiders continue to falter and Davis makes a change, he will show that it’s the same old Raiders and the franchise will be back to square one. Who would want to work for the franchise knowing that it is a one-year audition every season?”
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
404.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
“It will be in the best interest of the franchise if Davis simply allows his general manager and coach to grow. They are both first-timers in their positions. I suspect that’s what will happen, and I think it’s unlikely Davis will make changes there. But what if the losing continues in the final weeks of the season?
Exactly what kind of progress is Davis looking for? Will going 2-4 the rest of the way constitute progress? What if Oakland beats Cleveland and Kansas City at home but gets trounced in the other four games? Is that progress? “
============================================= I knew you were stupid,but that is the dumbest sht you have said so far.Gruden= answer.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_22042808/poole-reeling-oakland-raiders-will-see-former-head?source=most_viewed
Damn! Monte is once again on the money!
Davis and McK made an overzealous stupid decision to get rid of Hue Jackson after only one season and not allowing him to hire his own DC.
Now the team is set back for at least 3 more years.
At least! Terrible!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Is Reggie actually having a press conference?
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LOL
I was wondering the same thing.
SMH
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
404.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
“It will be in the best interest of the franchise if Davis simply allows his general manager and coach to grow. They are both first-timers in their positions. I suspect that’s what will happen, and I think it’s unlikely Davis will make changes there. But what if the losing continues in the final weeks of the season?
Exactly what kind of progress is Davis looking for? Will going 2-4 the rest of the way constitute progress? What if Oakland beats Cleveland and Kansas City at home but gets trounced in the other four games? Is that progress? “
============================================= I knew you were stupid,but that is the dumbest sht you have said so far.Gruden= answer.
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I didn’t write that dummy. Those our the words of Bill Williamson of ESPN.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
407.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
“If the Raiders continue to falter and Davis makes a change, he will show that it’s the same old Raiders and the franchise will be back to square one. Who would want to work for the franchise knowing that it is a one-year audition every season?”
===================================================== And than maybe you will hall as$ and take your stupid bllsht with you.What kind of dumb filthy whore names her kid ALBERT?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
don’t understand how everyone hated hue and wanted him fired for “throwing the players under the bus” after the last game even though he went 8-8 with a roster you all think is devoid of talent and with an incompetent DC he didn’t want in Bresnahan. But with Reggie here and his supposed eye for talent DA gets a pass for throwing the team under the bus halfway through the season while he’s getting blown out every week and this team is nowhere near where hue had it.
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i think a coach should always put it on himself even if he knows his players failed him because for some reason they didn’t play to their capabilites so you gotta assess what you did wrong plus it could be like “don’t fire me, it wasn’t my faul.” but he get’s a pass, they guy was an ozzie guillen type as far as being passionate and having loose lips. end of the day hue got the most our of the talent we had. look what he did for dmac/bush, jc, reece, dhb, moore, our oline. too bad our d was horrible
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
“The new regime could have had the best of both worlds; they could have fired Hue but kept the offense in tact via Al Saunders. They blew that big time and it’s lead to way bigger problems for them now.”
This was my first negative reaction to the new regime….this was the first warning signal that we were in for a long season or a rebuild.
Thee new regime should have immediately realized that the strength on this team was the O-Line and the running game….find a way to keep that in tact and build around that.
That led to letting Satele go and thinking that Wiz could easily replace him at center and the line would be the same.
Then they brought in Bergstrom and paid him a ton of cash to be the stinker of the year thus far! This guy was “SUPPOSED” to be good!
Then the last thing that happened surprised us all was that Barnes was a decent RT with him gone we are now seeing that.
All of those things combined dismantled our strength over the last few years (running game) and what brought us to 8-8…. bringing us to where we are today which is 3-7.
RM and DA I hope you learned something from this because you are upsetting some long time fans with this regression.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
405.RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
Ooooooh. Oakfoshow the Internet Tough Guy is here, full of tough talk and no action. Think of how many people died on 9/11 while he lives. Shame, really.
================================================ Your parol officer might be interested your sneaking around on the internet again.Child molesters are srictly forbidden to use internet.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Notice how Oakfoshow never threatens me anymore. Why? Because I showed up and he didn’t. I’m sure he spanked off to pictures of his dad for hours trying to mask the humiliation.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
RaiderDuck = How to catch a predator.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Showed up to what? I’de fkn bust your as$ than post the pictures on this blog punk.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
After we beat Cincy, I only see one difficult game left on the schedule (Donkeys).
8-8 is still a very likely scenario for this team.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
If only we they had a football iq test to join this blog.There would be no raiderducks the child molestor,albert pain the border jumper and several others.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
If you ask me who is responsible for players not playing hard…
Front office and the coaching staff!
Don’t draft lazy players….don’t pick up check cahsers in free agency…don’t let lazy players start or see the field if they are not giving 100% on every play.
Now the problem we have is if we sat every lazy player on our team we would be left with a team full of 3rd stringers and practice squad players.
That being said its going to take a year or 2 to get the right kind of players here.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Showed up to what? I’de fkn bust your as$ than post the pictures on this blog punk.
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Showed up to what? I told I’d be at the Black Angus in Mesa yesterday. Where were you?
Oh, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA to the idea of you “busting” anyone or anything. That monkey from Speed Racer would kick you a new one.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Former #Raiders linebacker Aaron Curry cleared waivers. He is free to sign with any team, including the Raiders.
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It looks like no teams wanted that idiot.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
If only we they had a football iq test to join this blog.There would be no raiderducks the child molestor,albert pain the border jumper and several others.
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How could you ever pass an IQ test. You have the IQ of a mentally retarded monkey.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
I think we should try to get Teo if we pick high enough but if he’s gone Jones from Georgia and we should try to get Brandon Jenkins from FSU in the 3rd if he’s still there
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 am
We benched 55 and the defense has gone to historic lows.
That’s not to say he’s good.
But he was certainly better than the guy who replaced him based on the results on the field.
666 is right. How can we bench anyone with this extreme lack of depth?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Remaining possible wins: Browns, Chiefs, Panthers, and Chargers
Those are all winnable, but 3/4 are all pretty iffy for this team. I predict a 6-10 finish.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
414.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
“The new regime could have had the best of both worlds; they could have fired Hue but kept the offense in tact via Al Saunders. They blew that big time and it’s lead to way bigger problems for them now.”
This was my first negative reaction to the new regime….this was the first warning signal that we were in for a long season or a rebuild.
Thee new regime should have immediately realized that the strength on this team was the O-Line and the running game….find a way to keep that in tact and build around that.
That led to letting Satele go and thinking that Wiz could easily replace him at center and the line would be the same.
Then they brought in Bergstrom and paid him a ton of cash to be the stinker of the year thus far! This guy was “SUPPOSED” to be good!
Then the last thing that happened surprised us all was that Barnes was a decent RT with him gone we are now seeing that.
All of those things combined dismantled our strength over the last few years (running game) and what brought us to 8-8…. bringing us to where we are today which is 3-7.
RM and DA I hope you learned something from this because you are upsetting some long time fans with this regression.
^^^^^^^^
I saw this coming as soon as Hue was fired and DA hired and then DA hires Knapp as OC and Big Wiz leaves.
Terrible.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
If only we they had a football iq test to join this blog.There would be no raiderducks the child molestor,albert pain the border jumper and several others.
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How could you ever pass an IQ test. You have the IQ of a mentally retarded monkey.
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Now, now. Some monkeys have proven highly educable. Oakfoshow, on the other hand…typical P@lin voter.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
419.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
After we beat Cincy, I only see one difficult game left on the schedule (Donkeys).
8-8 is still a very likely scenario for this team.
^^^^^^^
Nope. This team is waaaay to inconsistent to win that many games. The offense is a mess and the defense is worse and special teams sucks.
Team has no identity.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
If only we they had a football iq test to join this blog.There would be no raiderducks the child molestor,albert pain the border jumper and several others.
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How could you ever pass an IQ test. You have the IQ of a mentally retarded monkey.
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Now, now. Some monkeys have proven highly educable. Oakfoshow, on the other hand…typical P@lin voter.
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I didn’t say a normally functioning monkey. I said a mentally retarded one.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
I kind of hope the Raiders finish 3-13. I rather they get a top 3 draft pick than finish 6-10 or 7-9. That’s another reason to play Pryor.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Big game for Geno Smith here in a few hours.
If he wants to fancy himself a top 5 pick, he has to go on the national stage here and TOY with Iowa State.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
If Manning gets injured, it is possible the Raiders win out and finish 9-7.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
I didn’t say a normally functioning monkey. I said a mentally retarded one.
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Like I said, Oak’s a typical Pa1in voter.
Seriously, though: What exactly is the purpose of coming on a blog, insulting everyone, and leaving? He comes off like MistaBrown’s even more dim-witted cousin.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
I don’t understand how everyone hated hue and wanted him fired for “throwing the players under the bus” after the last game even though he went 8-8 with a roster you all think is devoid of talent and with an incompetent DC he didn’t want in Bresnahan. But with Reggie here and his supposed eye for talent DA gets a pass for throwing the team under the bus halfway through the season while he’s getting blown out every week and this team is nowhere near where hue had it.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Look who’s back, and he is in college.
Glad to have you back young man.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
I would rather go 6-10 or 7-9.
If the difference between picking 3rd and 9th is all the difference in the world to just tank games, then we are completely doomed to begin with.
Got to finish with some momentum, try to win games to properly evaluate players (you can’t adequately asses players when we are getting housed by 4 TD’s and the other team is taking it easy on you).
If you can’t build a good draft picking 10th, and you HAVE TO pick in the top 3, well…..you will be the Chiefs. They have had top 3 picks, multiple times, and will have another one here next season.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Oakfoshow Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
404.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
“It will be in the best interest of the franchise if Davis simply allows his general manager and coach to grow. They are both first-timers in their positions. I suspect that’s what will happen, and I think it’s unlikely Davis will make changes there. But what if the losing continues in the final weeks of the season?
Exactly what kind of progress is Davis looking for? Will going 2-4 the rest of the way constitute progress? What if Oakland beats Cleveland and Kansas City at home but gets trounced in the other four games? Is that progress? “
============================================= I knew you were stupid,but that is the dumbest sht you have said so far.Gruden= answer.
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I didn’t write that dummy. Those our the words of Bill Williamson of ESPN.
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Awful. Just awful.
I just read this Williamson column as well. It was terrible. He celebrates the “Raiders finally operating like a real sports franchise.” What does that even mean? Forget that we’re 3-7 and got our doors blown off three weeks in a row, we hired a general manager rather than having an owner-GM. Yee-hah!!! How amazing! We’re a “REAL” organization now. Just like Jacksonville, Buffalo, KC and Cleveland. Hooray for that.
I’m convinced. Let’s give Dennis Allen a 100-year contract extension. Forget results and track record. Stability is all that matters.
What a joke.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
I wholeheartedly do not believe under ANY SCENARIO losing makes you better.
Maybe, just maybe, if you are talking about picking between #1 or #2 for a sure-fire QB prospect, than maybe.
But tanking to draft an edge pass rusher? Please, he could end up being Andre Wadsworth, Courtney Brown or Vernon Gholston.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
I want Te’o or Jones in a Raider uniform next year.
I don’t care that Te’o is not a pure pass rusher type, he can do it all!
At this point….if I were McK, taking him over Jones would be wise, if the team has the choice.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 am
Man, I lived in my house for almost a year and a half, and never heard any coyotes howling at night.
Last weekend, the State of New Mexico had some gun club sponsor a kill-as-many-coyotes as you can find contest, and the last two nights now, I just hear them howling all night long.
I can’t believe the two things aren’t correalated. Where’s Rockstar to chime in?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Kiper believe Te’O might go #1 overall, and will not fall out of the top 3.
If we beat either Cleveland or Carolina, it will all but assure us of not being in the top 3, even if we lose the other 5 games.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
Williamson’s job was covering the Broncos as far as his connection to the AFC West so his objectivity is questionable at best.
These guys want to pretend they are objective, but they aren’t.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
This team is making an attempt to become vanilla-ized. Winning will take a back seat as we make an effort to do things ‘right’. Next years draft? Give it up. Reggies head has to be swirlling in this mess we got now, how can he focus on the draft. I want, you want, BFD. We don’t have coaches who can: coach, teach, coach up, game plan, and take accountability.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
FOR I TRULY – TRULY TELL YOU HERE TODAY FRIDAY!
THAT THE DENVER BRONCOS – SHALL BUY MANNING AND
ALL THEY WAN’T AND THEY SHALL NOT WIN!
RISHNESS IS NOT IN THE EYES OF GOD –So I tell you their money will not prevail over the DOORS OF THE KINDOM OF HEAVEN! SO ITS — Easier for a Camel to enter the eye of a needle before a Rich Man enter the KINDOM OF HEAVEN!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
Tanking????
No, we just aren’t going to win, lol.
THAT is how we will end up with a top 5 pick.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
Jax and KC both have one win, and we beat them already. They would have to finish with a better record than us for us to pick ahead of them (not happening).
Same with Clev and Car. They each have two wins, and if we beat one of them, we would have 4 wins, so they would have to finish winning 3 of their last 5 while we lose every other game, to draft ahead of them.
Neither scenario likely at all. We will be picking in the 7 to 12 range. And I am liking this Barr kid from UCLA. Jason Taylor, JPP type athlete and edge rusher.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
Same with Clev and Car. They each have two wins, and if we beat one of them, we would have 4 wins, so they would have to finish winning 3 of their last 5 while we lose every other game, to draft ahead of them.
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The Raiders could easily lose to both Cleveland and Carolina.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Tanking is for the NBA.
If Denver wanted a SB? They got the wrong Manning lol….
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
RAIDERS = WORST DEFENSE IN NFL = NO QB WILL FIX THAT
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:32 am
The Raiders could easily lose to both Cleveland and Carolina.
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Usually the team with the better QB wins.
I can see us splitting those, but not losing both.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:32 am
Anyone who thinks we win one more game has alot of faith.
DA’s comment about the edge rusher may have been the last straw for these guys on D.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
These guys have mailed it in. They are done playing for DA.
Bengals – 31
Raiders – 9
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
Anyone who thinks we win one more game has alot of faith.
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Have you seen Carolina, Cleveland, San Diego, or KC play lately?
If we run the board and LOSE to everyone of those teams, we might as well become the Seattle Supersonics and sell ourselves and brand to some yee-haws in Oklahoma, and cease to exist.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
“Notice how Oakfoshow never threatens me anymore. Why? Because I showed up and he didn’t. I’m sure he spanked off to pictures of his dad for hours trying to mask the humiliation.”
LMFAO good one!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
What is so wrong about the “Edge rusher” comment from coach?
Do you think Houston and Matt S see themselves as speed rushers? Not at all.
Are Tollefson and Andre Carter going to stop giving max effort? I would ask when did they start giving max effort?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
442.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Kiper believe Te’O might go #1 overall, and will not fall out of the top 3.
If we beat either Cleveland or Carolina, it will all but assure us of not being in the top 3, even if we lose the other 5 games.
^^^^^^^^
It’s possible Raiders lose to Cleveland. Cleveland will come and play the Raiders tough. Raiders will probably just win two more game if anything. Browns and KC….maaaaaaaybe.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
This year, with a new scheme, the same DL core + LBs has hardly achieved any pressure.
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GG,
I already corrected you on the “same D-line as last year” comment.
now we have the same LB’s too??
Ugh. I give up
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
I’m projecting 6 or 7 new starters on D net year. Something like: 2 DTs, a speed DE, a MLB maybe a WLB, 2 CBs, and a S.
In other words we keep one DE, one LB, one S… wow. This D sucks.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:41 am
These guys have mailed it in. They are done playing for DA.
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E,
when did they start??
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:41 am
Truly I say unto thee– I shall purchase BRADY AND BELICHECK !
Bring him here to OAKLAND and YET SHALL NOT WIN!
FOR IS THE WILL OF THE HAND OF THE FATHER AND NOT OUR WILL!
HE HAS THE LAST WORD.
SO– go and play and multiply and LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Raiders will probably just win two more game if anything.
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If we win 2 games, it would take a lot of teams rallying like the Jets and Rams and Panthers, to keep us from picking 6th or higher.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
453.Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
These guys have mailed it in. They are done playing for DA.
Bengals – 31
Raiders – 9
^^^^^^^^
Yep. No way Raiders beat Cinncy in Cinncy.
They are done playing for DA, Knapp, Tarver and Hoffman for sure.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
453.Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
These guys have mailed it in. They are done playing for DA.
Bengals – 31
Raiders – 9
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You think i’ts gonna be that close huh?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
“Like I said, Oak’s a typical Pa1in voter.
Seriously, though: What exactly is the purpose of coming on a blog, insulting everyone, and leaving? He comes off like MistaBrown’s even more dim-witted cousin.”
This is a classic right here “MistaBrown’s even more dim-witted cousin”
I laughed so hard when I read that!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
I kinda hope Raiders lose the rest of their games and so do the Eagles so Reid can get fired and McK can fire DA and get a head coach with experience in Andy Reid.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
Yep. No way Raiders beat Cinncy in Cinncy.
They are done playing for DA, Knapp, Tarver and Hoffman for sure.
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Bookmarked, be prepared to face that one in about 50 hours.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
It’s easy for national media and Bronco fans like Williamson to preach “patience”.
He couldn’t care less how this team does as long as we keep losing and his beloved Broncos can keep handing it to us.
Like the guy is sincerely concerned about the Raiders future…
Pleeeeeeze.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
466.DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
I kinda hope Raiders lose the rest of their games and so do the Eagles so Reid can get fired and McK can fire DA and get a head coach with experience in Andy Reid.
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Andy Reid? A guy with talent so abundant that they were called a “dream team”…that has the same record as we do over the past two seasons?
No thanks.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
Macho Man:
I think Houston, ShoNasty, Kelly, Bryant, Wheeler & Burris will be back
if McClain, Huff & Branch are on Reggie’s scholarship program, they’ll be back too
All the other 5+ year vets (Seymour, Carter, Bartell, Spencer, Giordano, Hanson, etc)
plus you know Goethel & Mitchell are gone. Tollefson hasn’t done anything. Rookies Crawford & Bilukidi haven’t really been given an opportunity so who knows?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Who is “They” when you talk about players not playing for this coach?
Who are the quitters?????
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 am
Who are the quitters?????
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cross Carson Palmer off that list, Jhill!
he might turn the ball over 2 or 3 times per game, but he aint no quitter
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
386.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
People keep saying we’ve been horrible “for a decade”.
That is exaggeration. the Raiders were in the 2003 SB, then had SEVEN seasons of losing…bad… but 7 is not decade and then things started to look better with the consecutive 8-8’s.
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Ok then. We have had 10 years of not winning.
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Thanks. I feel better now.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Have you seen Carolina, Cleveland, San Diego, or KC play lately?
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Minus KC they have all played better than the Raiders recently.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:55 am
It’s funny when people say this team is done playing for DA, was last years team done playing for Hue after 11 games? thus 1-4 in last 5 games, even that lone win came after Sey blocked the game winning KC FG, this team is not done playing for DA, this team is just so over-matched against good teams , hence we lose in blowouts and it looks like they’re not playing hard but that’s not the case, it just looks like Alabama playing against DIII team
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
Al (rip) –put toghether a little team made of a bunch of good
Family guys who really wanted to Win and in a short time these
DECIPLES OF HIM WENT TO THE SUPERBOWL #2 1960’s
Vs Vince Lombardi
Damb man! C’ mon man!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
466.DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
I kinda hope Raiders lose the rest of their games and so do the Eagles so Reid can get fired and McK can fire DA and get a head coach with experience in Andy Reid.
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Andy Reid? A guy with talent so abundant that they were called a “dream team”…that has the same record as we do over the past two seasons?
No thanks.
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PLus the guy needed Jim Johnson to win, haven’t done squat since he passed away, you can bet Pitts won’t do squat if D Lebeu left that team , same way Jim Harbaugh (whiners coach) wouldn’t b sh1t without the good D that was carried over from M Nolan and M Singletary days
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
469.DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
466.DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
I kinda hope Raiders lose the rest of their games and so do the Eagles so Reid can get fired and McK can fire DA and get a head coach with experience in Andy Reid.
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Andy Reid? A guy with talent so abundant that they were called a “dream team”…that has the same record as we do over the past two seasons?
No thanks.
^^^^^^^^^^
I would take him over DA any day of the week.
Yes please!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
456.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
What is so wrong about the “Edge rusher” comment from coach?
Do you think Houston and Matt S see themselves as speed rushers? Not at all.
Are Tollefson and Andre Carter going to stop giving max effort? I would ask when did they start giving max effort?
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Burris was that in college.
Watch the highlight reel….ALL you see is him coming off the edge and getting to the rb or QB.
It was what he did best…NOT covering receivers.
Another coaching blunder. Guys are not being put in the best positions to succeed.
It took injury to “discover” Reece could do things.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
M20,
Singletary > Tarver ??
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
477.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
466.DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
I kinda hope Raiders lose the rest of their games and so do the Eagles so Reid can get fired and McK can fire DA and get a head coach with experience in Andy Reid.
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Andy Reid? A guy with talent so abundant that they were called a “dream team”…that has the same record as we do over the past two seasons?
No thanks.
—
PLus the guy needed Jim Johnson to win, haven’t done squat since he passed away, you can bet Pitts won’t do squat if D Lebeu left that team , same way Jim Harbaugh (whiners coach) wouldn’t b sh1t without the good D that was carried over from M Nolan and M Singletary days
^^^^^^^^
I like Reid better than DA and his garbage staff.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Andy Reid is going to SD
print it
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
478,
You had to go and compare him to DA. Damn you.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
479.DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
456.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
What is so wrong about the “Edge rusher” comment from coach?
Do you think Houston and Matt S see themselves as speed rushers? Not at all.
Are Tollefson and Andre Carter going to stop giving max effort? I would ask when did they start giving max effort?
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Burris was that in college.
Watch the highlight reel….ALL you see is him coming off the edge and getting to the rb or QB.
It was what he did best…NOT covering receivers.
Another coaching blunder. Guys are not being put in the best positions to succeed.
It took injury to “discover” Reece could do things.
^^^^^^^^
That’s why DA and his coaching staff sucks.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Come on McFadden20,
Last year and this one are 2 different seasons. You can’t compare the two because there are no similarities.
We have not even been at .500 this season. The team sucks…. They know it…. They have quit….
If it isn’t clear to ypu know it will be in 48 hours at halftime in Cincy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:01 am
It took injury to “discover” Reece could do things.
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I guess it’ll take injuries to Palmer & Leinart in order for them to “discover” Pryor too, then?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
We beat the PITTSBURGH STEELERS with a Qb name GRAWKOSKI
DAVID BEAT GOLIATH.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:03 am
482.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Andy Reid is going to SD
print it
^^^^^^^^^
Yeah, I can see that. SD blew it when they passed on Fisher last year and I don’t think the Spanos’ will pass on getting a legit coach this time around.
I think they will go after Gruden as well.
I think Dallas will go hard after Sean Payton, Gruden and maybe even Reid.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:03 am
a Qb name GRAWKOSKI
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who??
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
Reid’s recent body of work has been unimpressive to say the least.
If he can’t get THAT team to play…what we would he do with THIS team?
I can’t sit here and say he’s worse than DA at this point though…you got me on that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Reggie would win over a bunch of Raider fans if he could lure Sean Payton to Oakland like the great Al Davis once attempted to…
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Raiders play like crap when going east in an outdoor stadium especially. Cinncy been playing better and Raiders continue to regress.
This Raider team sucks.
Why haven’t we heard from McK anyway? Is he scared?
If McK wants to truly rebuild, then he needs to stop dancing around the issue and just trade DMC to Jets or Cowboys for a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft and get a 2nd in next years draft and get his valuable “picks”.
Sheesh.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Had the 2nd easiest schedule going into the last 9 games of the season and will not win one of them.
I would put money on it, but never bet on or against the Raiders.
Too inconsistent lol….
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Where did u guys hear Reggie is having a press conference?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Kiper believe Te’O might go #1 overall, and will not fall out of the top 3.
If we beat either Cleveland or Carolina, it will all but assure us of not being in the top 3, even if we lose the other 5 games.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
No way Te’O goes # 1. Kiper is crazy!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Come on McFadden20,
Last year and this one are 2 different seasons. You can’t compare the two because there are no similarities.
We have not even been at .500 this season. The team sucks…. They know it…. They have quit….
If it isn’t clear to ypu know it will be in 48 hours at halftime in Cincy.
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It’s clear but i don’t think it has to do with giving up on the season or the coach, it’s just this team is like scrub college team playing against ALABAMA, you can’t say the other team gave up or something , it’s just we’re over-matched against top teams
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:14 am
Raiders go from playoff contender to also-ran in first year of new regime
Published November 20, 2012
Associated Press
ALAMEDA, Calif. – When the new regime took over the Oakland Raiders last January, they inherited an 8-8 team that fell one game shy of the playoffs, featuring an offense that could be prolific at times and a defense that was historically bad.
Ten games into the first season under general manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen, the offense has taken a decided step backward, the defense has somehow regressed and the Raiders (3-6) are nowhere near being a playoff team.
The situation McKenzie and Allen entered was not an easy one despite the presence of a capable quarterback in Carson Palmer, a big-play running back in Darren McFadden and a handful of other playmakers on both sides of the ball. But the early returns have not been positive.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
These guys were suppossed to be 5-5 right now going into Cincy then back home for 3 in a row down the stretch.
If Denver didn’t have the crowd manning is gonna draw I doubt the Raiders totaled 100,000 paying fans for all 3 games.
At least you season ticket holders don’t have to juggle family and football this holiday season.
Not like you have recently anyway….
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
I’m not going to predict that the Raiders lose on Sunday, but i will say that i would be shocked if we won.
Pleasently.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
If McK wants to truly rebuild, then he needs to stop dancing around the issue and just trade DMC to Jets or Cowboys for a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft and get a 2nd in next years draft and get his valuable “picks”.
The way to get the picks he wants, is to ask for high picks and work you way down from there. McK should say to Jets and Dallas, give us a 1st this year and a 3rd for DMC and then they will refuse and counter and if McK can get a 2nd and 4th in this years draft and a 2nd in next years draft for DMC, then that would be a win IMO.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
498.Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
These guys were suppossed to be 5-5 right now going into Cincy then back home for 3 in a row down the stretch.
If Denver didn’t have the crowd manning is gonna draw I doubt the Raiders totaled 100,000 paying fans for all 3 games.
At least you season ticket holders don’t have to juggle family and football this holiday season.
Not like you have recently anyway….
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Team is lucky the NFL added that new rule regarding declaring a “sell out” for games this year before being blacked out.
Otherwise the last 3 home games would have been blacked out for sure.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
Thats alot of picks for an injured RB averaging 3.3 yards a carry in a what have you done for me lately league?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
If McK wants to truly rebuild, then he needs to stop dancing around the issue and just trade DMC to Jets or Cowboys for a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft and get a 2nd in next years draft and get his valuable “picks”.
The way to get the picks he wants, is to ask for high picks and work you way down from there. McK should say to Jets and Dallas, give us a 1st this year and a 3rd for DMC and then they will refuse and counter and if McK can get a 2nd and 4th in this years draft and a 2nd in next years draft for DMC, then that would be a win IMO.
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wow 2nd and 4th this year and 2nd next year for a player who next plays more than 50% of the games? only guy i can imagine giving up that many picks for DMac is Jerry Jones
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
501.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
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Exactly. 2 of the 3 wins came against worse teams than the Raiders and they got lucky versus the Jags.
Beating Pitt was luck as well, because Pitt turned the ball over.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
never** not next
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
i hope carson lights up the bengals….but i realize we still have DA and krappy…
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
501.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
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Exactly. 2 of the 3 wins came against worse teams than the Raiders and they got lucky versus the Jags.
Beating Pitt was luck as well, because Pitt turned the ball over.
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Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
POST-498,WHY DONT TICKET HOLDERS HAVE TO JUGGLE FAMILY AND FOOTBALLTHIS HOLIDAY SEASON ?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
DKNIGHT I was referring to last year, we weren’t really that good , just happened to have an easy schedule
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
The sad thing is Carson can light up the Bengals to the tune of 400 yards and wait for it….
13 POINTS !!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
didnt we beat Houston and Chi last year, even though chi didnt have their starter there D is still tough, jets D pretty tough too.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
504.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
If McK wants to truly rebuild, then he needs to stop dancing around the issue and just trade DMC to Jets or Cowboys for a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft and get a 2nd in next years draft and get his valuable “picks”.
The way to get the picks he wants, is to ask for high picks and work you way down from there. McK should say to Jets and Dallas, give us a 1st this year and a 3rd for DMC and then they will refuse and counter and if McK can get a 2nd and 4th in this years draft and a 2nd in next years draft for DMC, then that would be a win IMO.
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wow 2nd and 4th this year and 2nd next year for a player who next plays more than 50% of the games? only guy i can imagine giving up that many picks for DMac is Jerry Jones
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Jets and Cowboys are desperate for playmakers on offense. Jones is a very reactionary GM and likes playing poker and making a splash.
He would give up a 2nd and 4th for DMC. He loves DMC with the Arkansas ties and DMC is still dynamic gamebreaker/player in this league when healthy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:27 am
512.eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
didnt we beat Houston and Chi last year, even though chi didnt have their starter there D is still tough, jets D pretty tough too.
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Yep!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:27 am
CHicago was on same boat, they went spiraling down after Cutler went down, there backup really s8cks , Jets D wasn’t the same as years past they been getting abused left and right
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
508.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
501.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
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Exactly. 2 of the 3 wins came against worse teams than the Raiders and they got lucky versus the Jags.
Beating Pitt was luck as well, because Pitt turned the ball over.
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Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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Whatever way you want to look at it.
Fact is…Hue’s Raiders were still one game away from playoffs despite Hue losing his legendary owner/defacto GM, starting QB and star RB for mid season and despite being strapped with a crappy azz DC.
Hue did an amazing job last year despite the circumstances and all the adversity he faced. He deserved a 2nd season with a REAL DC and a new GM.
Davis and McK screwed up…period!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Also last yr. we were dominating Detroit before the defense folded (a playoff team) and Buffalo the D gave up FIVE straight 2nd half td’s to blow that one.
If our D could’ve held SD at their 1/2 yd. line we probably win that one as well.
A person could make the argument that yes…last yr. WAS a mirage…we should have at least been 10-6 if not better.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
511.Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
The sad thing is Carson can light up the Bengals to the tune of 400 yards and wait for it….
13 POINTS !!!!
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It doesn’t help that he’s had THIRTEEN td passes dropped this yr.
That’s insane.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
I guess the Reggie press conference was just a rumor?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
517.DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Also last yr. we were dominating Detroit before the defense folded (a playoff team) and Buffalo the D gave up FIVE straight 2nd half td’s to blow that one.
If our D could’ve held SD at their 1/2 yd. line we probably win that one as well.
A person could make the argument that yes…last yr. WAS a mirage…we should have at least been 10-6 if not better.
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Crappy D couldn’t close and finish the Broncos at home last year and Tebow and McGahee beat them in the 2nd half last year.
Just terrible.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
“I think Dallas will go hard after Sean Payton, Gruden and maybe even Reid.”
I agree with you here in fact I am sure Jerry Jones is thinking about these guys as we type.