McFadden and Seymour not practicing once again
By Steve Corkran
Friday, November 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 am in Oakland Raiders.
Another day of practice, another day without running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour.
The trio missed all three practices this week, same as the previous two weeks. Therefore, it seems a foregone conclusion that coach Dennis Allen in an hour or so will declare all three as out for Sunday’s game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
McFadden (ankle), Goodson (ankle) and Seymour (hamstring) missed the past two games. Allen said they are making progress, but he isn’t sure when any of them might heal enough to return to practice and play in a game.
Rookie defensive end Jack Crawford also is not practicing. He suffered a toe injury Wednesday and missed the past two practices.
On the bright side, strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck) and running back Taiwan Jones (ankle) made it through another practice without any apparent lingering effects from their injuries.
For now, it appears as if Marcel Reece, Jones and rookie Jeremy Stewart will handle the running back duties for a third straight game.
Desmond Bryant will take the bulk of Seymour’s snaps Sunday if Seymour isn’t able to play.
– The Raiders will wrap up practice in about 45 minutes or so. At that time, Allen will address the media and likely announce which players won’t be available for the Bengals game.
It’s also possible that Allen will shed some more light on what he intends to do with the vacancy he has on the 53-man roster. The spot freed up when the Raiders waived linebacker Aaron Curry.
Allen said the Raiders might fill the spot by signing one of the eight players on their practice squad. They went that route two weeks ago when they signed Stewart.
– Curry cleared waivers, as expected. He now is a free agent and available to sign with any team, including the Raiders.
It’s a stretch to envision the Raiders re-signing Curry, given they already had him under contract and got to see him play the past two games.
However, anything is possible, and the Raiders likely could get him back at very little cost. Then again, they’re already on the hook for paying him the remainder of what he is due this season as part of his previous contract.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
What are Seymour and Mcfadden good for besides being inactive for half the year?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
The sad thing is Carson can light up the Bengals to the tune of 400 yards and wait for it….
13 POINTS !!!!
yeah thats the reality of it…
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
yo
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
so when we beat good teams it luck and when we beat lousy teams its our easy schedule? this is great logic.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
Keep living in the fantasy land , look at last years wins objectionably , to say that players are giving up on DA is ridiculous, can you say players gave up on Hue in last 5 weeks? if they were that good they could have beaten SD who had nothing to play for
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
DKNIGHT I was referring to last year, we weren’t really that good , just happened to have an easy schedule
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We had the second easiest schedule this season with 9 games reamaining.
This season’s team is worse….
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
What are Seymour and Mcfadden good for besides being inactive for half the year?
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A big play every now and then. Not much else.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Last years team beat most the teams they were suppossed to minus the season-ending fiasco.
This years team won’t win another game and barely beat a 1 win team.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
they would have beaten SD BUFF DEN and DET if it werent for Chuck B and his lousy D.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
DKNIGHT I was referring to last year, we weren’t really that good , just happened to have an easy schedule
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We had the second easiest schedule this season with 9 games reamaining.
This season’s team is worse….
— 2nd easiest ? are you kidding with me ?> look at the freaking teams we have played, only 3 losing teams on the schedule
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
thats not a lousy d, this years team is a lousy d
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
It’s a stretch to envision the Raiders re-signing Curry, given they already had him under contract and got to see him play the past two games.
However, anything is possible, and the Raiders likely could get him back at very little cost. Then again, they’re already on the hook for paying him the remainder of what he is due this season as part of his previous contract.
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Fckng bizzaro sh*t this team does.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Seymour is gone….Mcfadden too….
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
— 2nd easiest ? are you kidding with me ?> look at the freaking teams we have played, only 3 losing teams on the schedule
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With nine games remaining our remaing opponents had a combined winning percentage under .500.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
they would have beaten SD BUFF DEN and DET if it werent for Chuck B and his lousy D.
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They could have pretty much lost to Houston, Chicago , KC, Week 1 to DEN
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
— 2nd easiest ? are you kidding with me ?> look at the freaking teams we have played, only 3 losing teams on the schedule
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Oh it is a easy schedule. It’s just that we’re so bad we make the weak assed opponents look tougher than they really are. Like the Jags game. That was a tough game. Whew, just got by that one.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
— 2nd easiest ? are you kidding with me ?> look at the freaking teams we have played, only 3 losing teams on the schedule
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With nine games remaining our remaing opponents had a combined winning percentage under .500.
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But we haven’t played those teams yet, so far we have only played Miami , Jax and KC through first 10 games
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:38 am
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
— 2nd easiest ? are you kidding with me ?> look at the freaking teams we have played, only 3 losing teams on the schedule
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Oh it is a easy schedule. It’s just that we’re so bad we make the weak assed opponents look tougher than they really are. Like the Jags game. That was a tough game. Whew, just got by that one.
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JAGS were coming of a bye week , if you don’t rem they gave Packers run for their money next week in Green Bay , last week they had Houston and barely lost in OT
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
I was thinking the same thing like you guys that this team have turned the corner and was a playoff team until i sat back and reflected upon the season and teams we played against
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
they would have beaten SD BUFF DEN and DET if it werent for Chuck B and his lousy D.
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They could have pretty much lost to Houston, Chicago , KC, Week 1 to DEN
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but they didnt the D actually held up those games.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Bjoern Werner plays for FSU not some Germany team,
HE’s very good rushing the passer, good play recognition skills, not as stout against the run , some times gives up on plays
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Cincy is 5-5, they have come on lately but also got to play KC.
Denver is 7-3, didn’t think Manning could do it , but he is doing it.
Clev., SD, Car., KC all suck….
probably the easiest schedule remaining now and we won’t win one game, McFadden20.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
The sad thing is Carson can light up the Bengals to the tune of 400 yards and wait for it….
13 POINTS !!!!
yeah thats the reality of it…
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Another sad thing is the Bengals average 25 points a game and we’ll lucky to hold them under 45. It’s fckn nuts. Our D went from worst to beyond worst.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
they would have beaten SD BUFF DEN and DET if it werent for Chuck B and his lousy D.
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They could have pretty much lost to Houston, Chicago , KC, Week 1 to DEN
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but they didnt the D actually held up those games.
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So are you saying this years team is better than last years ? in which way?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
508.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
501.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
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Exactly. 2 of the 3 wins came against worse teams than the Raiders and they got lucky versus the Jags.
Beating Pitt was luck as well, because Pitt turned the ball over.
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Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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Whatever way you want to look at it.
Fact is…Hue’s Raiders were still one game away from playoffs despite Hue losing his legendary owner/defacto GM, starting QB and star RB for mid season and despite being strapped with a crappy azz DC.
Hue did an amazing job last year despite the circumstances and all the adversity he faced. He deserved a 2nd season with a REAL DC and a new GM.
Davis and McK screwed up…period!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:43 am
So glad I decided not to go to that Saint game.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Cincy is 5-5, they have come on lately but also got to play KC.
Denver is 7-3, didn’t think Manning could do it , but he is doing it.
Clev., SD, Car., KC all suck….
probably the easiest schedule remaining now and we won’t win one game, McFadden20.
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How can you say we won’t win 1 game ? we are so far 2 outta 3 against bad teams, one of the loss was against Miami, where we never win
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
504.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
If McK wants to truly rebuild, then he needs to stop dancing around the issue and just trade DMC to Jets or Cowboys for a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft and get a 2nd in next years draft and get his valuable “picks”.
The way to get the picks he wants, is to ask for high picks and work you way down from there. McK should say to Jets and Dallas, give us a 1st this year and a 3rd for DMC and then they will refuse and counter and if McK can get a 2nd and 4th in this years draft and a 2nd in next years draft for DMC, then that would be a win IMO.
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wow 2nd and 4th this year and 2nd next year for a player who next plays more than 50% of the games? only guy i can imagine giving up that many picks for DMac is Jerry Jones
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Jets and Cowboys are desperate for playmakers on offense. Jerry Jones is a very reactionary GM and likes playing poker and making a splash.
He would give up a 2nd and 4th for DMC. He loves DMC with the Arkansas ties and DMC is still dynamic gamebreaker/player in this league when healthy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
they would have beaten SD BUFF DEN and DET if it werent for Chuck B and his lousy D.
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They could have pretty much lost to Houston, Chicago , KC, Week 1 to DEN
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but they didnt the D actually held up those games.
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So are you saying this years team is better than last years ? in which way?
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Last years team was hands down better than this years team. The D this year is slightly better.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
517.DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Also last yr. we were dominating Detroit before the defense folded (a playoff team) and Buffalo the D gave up FIVE straight 2nd half td’s to blow that one.
If our D could’ve held SD at their 1/2 yd. line we probably win that one as well.
A person could make the argument that yes…last yr. WAS a mirage…we should have at least been 10-6 if not better.
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Crappy D couldn’t close and finish the Broncos at home last year and let Tebow and McGahee beat them in the 2nd half last year.
Just terrible.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
How can you say we won’t win 1 game ? we are so far 2 outta 3 against bad teams, one of the loss was against Miami, where we never win
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I have lost all faith that this team is even trying anymore.
I can see Palmer trying, along with Reece and DHB.
All the rest either have no talent or have just quit.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Anybody got any word on Reggies upcoming PC? Wonder what that is going to be about and if he’s gonna announce any firings.
And don’t you find it a little ‘coincidental’ that Reggie is scheduled for a presser just days after Mark Davis said how dis-pleased he was at all this regression? I smell a firing, maybe HC, tho probably not. OC, wouldn’t suprise me one bit.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 am
Man, I lived in my house for almost a year and a half, and never heard any coyotes howling at night.
Last weekend, the State of New Mexico had some gun club sponsor a kill-as-many-coyotes as you can find contest, and the last two nights now, I just hear them howling all night long.
I can’t believe the two things aren’t correalated. Where’s Rockstar to chime in?
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Coyotes, wolfs, etc communicate through their howls. It’s from “where are you” to “someone’s taking a shot at my ass”.
Don’t ask me how I know.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
What are Seymour and Mcfadden good for besides being inactive for half the year?
check cashing, resting their tired dawgs and telling their kids kids about how hard they toiled to steal Als money
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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See these are the asinine comments you make Mc20. How was it luck?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
I only want to compare last year with the teams we beat last year and teams we lost against last year to teams we have beaten this year and teams we have lost again , and have we gotten worse by coaching or talent level, i would say Offensive we regressed due to coaching , defensively we regressed cuz Kelly and Seymour are year older and we can’t cut them due to huge contracts, WImbley is gone (due to salary cap , but was our best pass rusher) , we only could add WHeeler( coming off one of the worse INdy D last year )) Bartell coming from 1 year off due to injury, so all in all , we have beaten 2 out of the 3 bad teams we faced this year, so pretty much on par with how we fared against weak teams last year, which was like 6 outta 10 or 11, have been demolished by top teams just like how we got crushed against NE and GB last year
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
It’ll be interesting to see what McK does after the season is over (which it already is)
If he truly values his draft picks, then he is going to have to seriously look to trade DMC to get some picks and rebuild.
McK needs DMC to come back and score some TD’s to increase his trade value before the season ends.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
How can you say we won’t win 1 game ? we are so far 2 outta 3 against bad teams, one of the loss was against Miami, where we never win
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I have lost all faith that this team is even trying anymore.
I can see Palmer trying, along with Reece and DHB.
All the rest either have no talent or have just quit.
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I don’t think it’s lack of trying , i mean could you say the team stopped trying in last 5 games last year? it’s just the competition we’re playing against
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Fact is…Hue’s Raiders were still one game away from playoffs despite Hue losing his legendary owner/defacto GM, starting QB and star RB for mid season and despite being strapped with a crappy azz DC.
Hue did an amazing job last year despite the circumstances and all the adversity he faced. He deserved a 2nd season with a REAL DC and a new GM.
Davis and McK screwed up…period!
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Hue should have been allowed another year, if not the long haul. All this team needed was a bona-fide DC, keep Bush and whatever few tweaks Hue had in mind. That was all we needed to do.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
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Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Mcfadden,
When we lose out will you be convinced this year’s team is worse?
If so, just be patient. It is going to happen.
This team has quit, just watch.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Anybody got any word on Reggies upcoming PC? Wonder what that is going to be about and if he’s gonna announce any firings
This is corks response on the chat Tues.
Am told that Reggie will speak with the media next week. Looks pretty stoic when we see him on the practice field each day.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
40.Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Fact is…Hue’s Raiders were still one game away from playoffs despite Hue losing his legendary owner/defacto GM, starting QB and star RB for mid season and despite being strapped with a crappy azz DC.
Hue did an amazing job last year despite the circumstances and all the adversity he faced. He deserved a 2nd season with a REAL DC and a new GM.
Davis and McK screwed up…period!
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Hue should have been allowed another year, if not the long haul. All this team needed was a bona-fide DC, keep Bush and whatever few tweaks Hue had in mind. That was all we needed to do.
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Yep. Now the team is set back for two more years….best case. Ugh.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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See these are the asinine comments you make Mc20. How was it luck?
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You mentioned that we could have won like 3 or 4 more if we had better D, so i said we could have also lost 3 or 4 too , you can’t just look at what you want to look at
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
A person could make the argument that yes…last yr. WAS a mirage…we should have at least been 10-6 if not better.
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12-4, shoulda beat Den,Det,Buff,SD, if the D shows up just a lil bit in those games we’re 12-4 and maybe a 1 or 2 seed in the PO’s and it wouldnt even be a question who the better coach is, and really its not in question ,only to those who cant see the big picture.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
42.Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Mcfadden,
When we lose out will you be convinced this year’s team is worse?
If so, just be patient. It is going to happen.
This team has quit, just watch.
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It’s obvious this Raider team has quit. The performance the last 3 weeks proves that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Mcfadden,
When we lose out will you be convinced this year’s team is worse?
If so, just be patient. It is going to happen.
This team has quit, just watch.
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Again, based on what ? the team with the best record we beat last year was only 10-6 Houston, When we faced better teams we simply got crushed, NE and GB games come to mind? last 3 teams we faced are def lock to win at least 10 games
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Anybody got any word on Reggies upcoming PC? Wonder what that is going to be about and if he’s gonna announce any firings.
And don’t you find it a little ‘coincidental’ that Reggie is scheduled for a presser just days after Mark Davis said how dis-pleased he was at all this regression? I smell a firing, maybe HC, tho probably not. OC, wouldn’t suprise me one bit.
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If Reggie were going to fire someone, he’d have fired them already. Next week’s presser will probably be to address the cruddy season with some words of encouragement.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
I know we can agree that last year’s team was at least alot more fun to watch for a longer period of time, right, McFadden?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
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Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
A person could make the argument that yes…last yr. WAS a mirage…we should have at least been 10-6 if not better.
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12-4, shoulda beat Den,Det,Buff,SD, if the D shows up just a lil bit in those games we’re 12-4 and maybe a 1 or 2 seed in the PO’s and it wouldnt even be a question who the better coach is, and really its not in question ,only to those who cant see the big picture.
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You can’t go by if’s and butts , we could have been 4-12 too if you want to think like that
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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See these are the asinine comments you make Mc20. How was it luck?
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You mentioned that we could have won like 3 or 4 more if we had better D, so i said we could have also lost 3 or 4 too , you can’t just look at what you want to look at
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No what you said was 3 or 4 games we won by luck and I said how was it luck but you dodged the question.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
I don’t think it’s lack of trying , i mean could you say the team stopped trying in last 5 games last year? it’s just the competition we’re playing against
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If it’s not a lack of trying, then it has to be they’ve mailed it in because the players aren’t buying into what DA is selling. Oh sure, they go out there and play, but the competetive drive to crush your opponent isn’t there. And the last 5 games last year? The D gave up on the DC, that part was evident. This year the entire team is struggling to keep up with the HC.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
I know we can agree that last year’s team was at least alot more fun to watch for a longer period of time, right, McFadden?
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Yeah offensively we were def fun to watch, defensively we were horrible , and have been going back to 03 season , in which we have regressed talent wise? right RAIDER E?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Again, based on what ? the team with the best record we beat last year was only 10-6 Houston, When we faced better teams we simply got crushed, NE and GB games come to mind? last 3 teams we faced are def lock to win at least 10 games
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TB and NO will be hard-pressed to win 10 games.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Reggie would win over a bunch of Raider fans if he could lure Sean Payton to Oakland like the great Al Davis once attempted to…
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Sadly, you would think with Al gone, the HC job would be a lot more attractive.
If you were an ESTABLISHED head coach in the NFL, and three head coaching jobs came available, why would any coach not view Oak as their last choice?
A rookie owner who doesn’t just appear to be clueless, but is, just because his father refused to prepare him to take over.
A rookie GM who has lost the faith of the Nation, and is quickly losing the faith of those that write about the team.
A team who is near the bottom in far too many categories.
Maybe a washed up, prior HC, looking for another shot, or someone like DA, a rookie looking for a shot.
But a Peyton? Gruden? Just can’t see them being interested
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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See these are the asinine comments you make Mc20. How was it luck?
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You mentioned that we could have won like 3 or 4 more if we had better D, so i said we could have also lost 3 or 4 too , you can’t just look at what you want to look at
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No what you said was 3 or 4 games we won by luck and I said how was it luck but you dodged the question.
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I simply replied to your comment where you said we could have won 3-4 more games had some things fallen on our laps , so i said we could have also lost 3-4 more games , had the other team not committed blunders
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
12-4, shoulda beat Den,Det,Buff,SD, if the D shows up just a lil bit in those games we’re 12-4 and maybe a 1 or 2 seed in the PO’s and it wouldnt even be a question who the better coach is, and really its not in question ,only to those who cant see the big picture.
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You can’t go by if’s and butts , we could have been 4-12 too if you want to think like that
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MY ifs make sense, yours not so much. when the D held up its end we won when they didnt we lost its that simple and in the DEN,DET,SD,BUFF the D didnt hold up. 12-4 simple.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Yeah offensively we were def fun to watch, defensively we were horrible , and have been going back to 03 season , in which we have regressed talent wise? right RAIDER E?
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I would say talent wise we have regressed progressively for years now on D.
We no longer have 11 angry men.
We have 11 mis-tacking chumps….
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Again, based on what ? the team with the best record we beat last year was only 10-6 Houston, When we faced better teams we simply got crushed, NE and GB games come to mind? last 3 teams we faced are def lock to win at least 10 games
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TB and NO will be hard-pressed to win 10 games.
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TB needs to only go 4-2 last 6 games
NO is def better than their record , they lost their coach for whole season, Vilma just got back , they’re clicking on right cylinders and looking like last years team that won 13 games
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Those coyotes are announcing the zombie apocoylpse is about to start when the alignment of the galaxies open up a portal that allows the ET who seeded planet earth to pay us a visit.
It will either be ET or the same demons and fallen angels that the Bible says inhabited the Earth during Noahs time.
I am betting its what the Bible says and if I am wrong I will eat a cactus. The day of President O’s inauguration is a scary date also
Now back to Raider football.
I have faith Reggie will either keep CP/DMAC and break the bank on free agents or blow it up and trade them for draft picks
CP would get a second and then something like a fourth or third next year
We would be lucky to get a third for the tired dawg resting, skinny calve having, no pain pill popping, ballerina ankle strong, pumpkinhead from Arkansas
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
54.Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
I don’t think it’s lack of trying , i mean could you say the team stopped trying in last 5 games last year? it’s just the competition we’re playing against
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If it’s not a lack of trying, then it has to be they’ve mailed it in because the players aren’t buying into what DA is selling. Oh sure, they go out there and play, but the competetive drive to crush your opponent isn’t there. And the last 5 games last year? The D gave up on the DC, that part was evident. This year the entire team is struggling to keep up with the HC.
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3 different coaches in 3 years will do that to players. They grow tired of the constant change….another reason why Davis and McK screwed up by firing Hue was for continuitys sake and also Hue made the trade for CP3, they should have kept that pair together to see what they can do with a full season of training camp at least.
Davis and McK jumped the gun by firing Hue and the team has regressed badly because of it.
Big turn off for the fans who know football and were happy with the overall development of the team the last two years.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
^^^^^^^^
Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
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Of course he’s damaged goods. He’s sitting, right? Again, he’s out with an injury. Again, he’s sitting on the bench, not helping the team, while collecting a huge paycheck each Monday.
This has happened each and every year he has been in the NFL.
If that’s not the definition of damaged, what is?
DMAC would command a huge contract.
History says he’ll collect it, while on the bench.
No, not worth it at all.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
“Allen will shed some light on what he plans to do with the vacancy on the 53-man roster …”
My guess: leave it unfilled as long as possible and then bring someone uo from the practice squad only if they have to fill it. Save a few bucks for the company because team leadership has packed it in on this season and the Raiders are now run strictly as a moneymaking business and no longer as the life’s dream of a fanatical man.
Congratulations, Raiders fans, on having a “real, professional, modern organization” just like the other 31. The losing and complete lack of passion may suk, but at least you’ll have the media conformists there to stroke you and reassure you that things are finally being done “the right way” in Raiderland.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
62.Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Those coyotes are announcing the zombie apocoylpse is about to start when the alignment of the galaxies open up a portal that allows the ET who seeded planet earth to pay us a visit.
It will either be ET or the same demons and fallen angels that the Bible says inhabited the Earth during Noahs time.
I am betting its what the Bible says and if I am wrong I will eat a cactus. The day of President O’s inauguration is a scary date also
Now back to Raider football.
I have faith Reggie will either keep CP/DMAC and break the bank on free agents or blow it up and trade them for draft picks
CP would get a second and then something like a fourth or third next year
We would be lucky to get a third for the tired dawg resting, skinny calve having, no pain pill popping, ballerina ankle strong, pumpkinhead from Arkansas
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DMC is still a player in this league. Not his fault the ZBS is terrible for his skills.
A team like the Jets and Cowboys would trade a 2nd for him straight up probably.
Nobody in this years draft is as dynamic as DMC in the 2nd round.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
12-4, shoulda beat Den,Det,Buff,SD, if the D shows up just a lil bit in those games we’re 12-4 and maybe a 1 or 2 seed in the PO’s and it wouldnt even be a question who the better coach is, and really its not in question ,only to those who cant see the big picture.
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You can’t go by if’s and butts , we could have been 4-12 too if you want to think like that
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MY ifs make sense, yours not so much. when the D held up its end we won when they didnt we lost its that simple and in the DEN,DET,SD,BUFF the D didnt hold up. 12-4 simple.
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But that’s what I been saying since 3 weeks, we’re not good enough on D to win games against top teams, we’re aren’t elite on O offense, to go toe to toe with other good teams
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
This is corks response on the chat Tues.
Am told that Reggie will speak with the media next week. Looks pretty stoic when we see him on the practice field each day.
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If Reg wants to be a good GM, he needs to lift his head up and refuse to go down, no white flag of surrender. Reg needs to be the fearless leader Al was, despite the consequences. Reg needs to do like all great men do, rise up and prevail. Do not go melancholy (sp? bfd) and feel sorry for you self. Start firing the culprit coaches and bring back Hue. Show the NFL you’ve got balls. Make some noise Reggie.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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See these are the asinine comments you make Mc20. How was it luck?
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You mentioned that we could have won like 3 or 4 more if we had better D, so i said we could have also lost 3 or 4 too , you can’t just look at what you want to look at
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No what you said was 3 or 4 games we won by luck and I said how was it luck but you dodged the question.
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I simply replied to your comment where you said we could have won 3-4 more games had some things fallen on our laps , so i said we could have also lost 3-4 more games , had the other team not committed blunders
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See this why I call you a dumbass its in black in white what you said above let me repost it for you
6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
now stop dodging the question and answer how was it luck?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Yeah offensively we were def fun to watch, defensively we were horrible , and have been going back to 03 season , in which we have regressed talent wise? right RAIDER E?
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I would say talent wise we have regressed progressively for years now on D.
We no longer have 11 angry men.
We have 11 mis-tacking chumps….
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Yes thank you and now if EastoaklandRaider would understand that, and figure it out that we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
64.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
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Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
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Of course he’s damaged goods. He’s sitting, right? Again, he’s out with an injury. Again, he’s sitting on the bench, not helping the team, while collecting a huge paycheck each Monday.
This has happened each and every year he has been in the NFL.
If that’s not the definition of damaged, what is?
DMAC would command a huge contract.
History says he’ll collect it, while on the bench.
No, not worth it at all.
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Damaged goods is a player who has a more permanent long lingering injury.
I think you value unknown 2nd and 3rd round picks in this years draft way too much.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
TB still has ATL twice, Den, NO, Philly, and STL. No gimmies there.
NO still has SF, NYG, ATL, TB, DAL, and, CAR.
Don’t think either is winning 10, Mcfadden.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
The decision to fire Hue, to me, is the worst decision made in at least the last 20 or so years of Raiders football. Worse than drafting JaMarcus, worse than Art Shell Part II and the B&B offense, worse than the Javon Walker/Deangelo Hall contracts, worse than everything.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
70.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Yeah offensively we were def fun to watch, defensively we were horrible , and have been going back to 03 season , in which we have regressed talent wise? right RAIDER E?
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I would say talent wise we have regressed progressively for years now on D.
We no longer have 11 angry men.
We have 11 mis-tacking chumps….
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Yes thank you and now if EastoaklandRaider would understand that, and figure it out that we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
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Nope. Hue talk is way more fun, than talking about this current crappy Raider team with no identity.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
12-4, shoulda beat Den,Det,Buff,SD, if the D shows up just a lil bit in those games we’re 12-4 and maybe a 1 or 2 seed in the PO’s and it wouldnt even be a question who the better coach is, and really its not in question ,only to those who cant see the big picture.
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You can’t go by if’s and butts , we could have been 4-12 too if you want to think like that
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MY ifs make sense, yours not so much. when the D held up its end we won when they didnt we lost its that simple and in the DEN,DET,SD,BUFF the D didnt hold up. 12-4 simple.
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But that’s what I been saying since 3 weeks, we’re not good enough on D to win games against top teams, we’re aren’t elite on O offense, to go toe to toe with other good teams
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Last years O was good enough and getting ready to get DMC back, and if we would have had this years D last year we would have made the playoffs, this years O sucks and the D sucks but it is slightly better than last year.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
71.DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
64.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
^^^^^^^^
Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
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Of course he’s damaged goods. He’s sitting, right? Again, he’s out with an injury. Again, he’s sitting on the bench, not helping the team, while collecting a huge paycheck each Monday.
This has happened each and every year he has been in the NFL.
If that’s not the definition of damaged, what is?
DMAC would command a huge contract.
History says he’ll collect it, while on the bench.
No, not worth it at all.
^^^^^^^^^
Damaged goods is a player who has a more permanent long lingering injury.
I think you value unknown 2nd and 3rd round picks in this years draft way too much. When it comes to all the teams in the NFL.
McK should talk to Green Bay, Jets and Dallas about trading them DMC for a pick or two.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
75.eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
12-4, shoulda beat Den,Det,Buff,SD, if the D shows up just a lil bit in those games we’re 12-4 and maybe a 1 or 2 seed in the PO’s and it wouldnt even be a question who the better coach is, and really its not in question ,only to those who cant see the big picture.
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You can’t go by if’s and butts , we could have been 4-12 too if you want to think like that
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MY ifs make sense, yours not so much. when the D held up its end we won when they didnt we lost its that simple and in the DEN,DET,SD,BUFF the D didnt hold up. 12-4 simple.
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But that’s what I been saying since 3 weeks, we’re not good enough on D to win games against top teams, we’re aren’t elite on O offense, to go toe to toe with other good teams
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Last years O was good enough and getting ready to get DMC back, and if we would have had this years D last year we would have made the playoffs, this years O sucks and the D sucks but it is slightly better than last year.
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Oh and the special teams is terrible this year also.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
See this why I call you a dumbass its in black in white what you said above let me repost it for you
6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
now stop dodging the question and answer how was it luck?
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YEah ofcourse, we were that close to losing 4 more games, DEN game where orton was leading a nice drive, he fumbles the ball trying to throw with no one even near him , Houston game , Schaub is at the 5 yard line all he needed was 1 pass completion to win, Chicago game , we barely beat Cutlers backup who was as good as our back up last year, KC game barely beat them Seymour got his fingers on KC game winning FG try,
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
TB still has ATL twice, Den, NO, Philly, and STL. No gimmies there.
NO still has SF, NYG, ATL, TB, DAL, and, CAR.
Don’t think either is winning 10, Mcfadden.
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NO might not win 10 but the point is they are finally rolling at the right time and looking like the same team that won 13 games last year
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
How is this years D really better?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
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Hue woulda procured a bona-fide DC, so I believe we woulda won, and pretty tough to move on from Hue since he was unjustly let go and his ‘replacements’ suck ass balls.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
The decision to fire Hue, to me, is the worst decision made in at least the last 20 or so years of Raiders football. Worse than drafting JaMarcus, worse than Art Shell Part II and the B&B offense, worse than the Javon Walker/Deangelo Hall contracts, worse than everything.
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Low football IQ fans will never see this all they see is 1-4 down the stretch, penalties, and pressers.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YEah ofcourse, we were that close to losing 4 more games, DEN game where orton was leading a nice drive, he fumbles the ball trying to throw with no one even near him , Houston game , Schaub is at the 5 yard line all he needed was 1 pass completion to win, Chicago game , we barely beat Cutlers backup who was as good as our back up last year, KC game barely beat them Seymour got his fingers on KC game winning FG try,
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None of that is luck, the D forced those errors and we blocked a fg thats not luck, its called making a play.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hope you guys understand we only averaged 22 PPG last year and maybe that may topped to 25 PPG this year but our D has regressed talent wise,and is the worst D in the league , if you guys look at all the top passing Os we faced last year we pretty much lost against them, and we have already faced more better Passing teams this year than all of last year combined, until we fix this D which has nothing to with scheme , it lacks talent to stop passing teams , no pass rush and no secondary
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
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Hue woulda procured a bona-fide DC, so I believe we woulda won, and pretty tough to move on from Hue since he was unjustly let go and his ‘replacements’ suck ass balls.
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Really a bona-fide DC? like who the eff was available ? Dick Lebeau? Monte Kiffin?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
How is this years D really better?
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The run D has been better for the most part, and if Hue was here we’d be scoring more and sustaining more drives keeping the D off the field.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YEah ofcourse, we were that close to losing 4 more games, DEN game where orton was leading a nice drive, he fumbles the ball trying to throw with no one even near him , Houston game , Schaub is at the 5 yard line all he needed was 1 pass completion to win, Chicago game , we barely beat Cutlers backup who was as good as our back up last year, KC game barely beat them Seymour got his fingers on KC game winning FG try,
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None of that is luck, the D forced those errors and we blocked a fg thats not luck, its called making a play.
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Well the same holds true for where you said our D could have made better plays, the O just found ways to beat em , they lacked talent last year and they got even worse this year
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
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Hue woulda procured a bona-fide DC, so I believe we woulda won, and pretty tough to move on from Hue since he was unjustly let go and his ‘replacements’ suck ass balls.
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Really a bona-fide DC? like who the eff was available ? Dick Lebeau? Monte Kiffin?
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Jack Del Rio who has bay area roots.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hope you guys understand we only averaged 22 PPG last year and maybe that may topped to 25 PPG this year but our D has regressed talent wise,and is the worst D in the league , if you guys look at all the top passing Os we faced last year we pretty much lost against them, and we have already faced more better Passing teams this year than all of last year combined, until we fix this D which has nothing to with scheme , it lacks talent to stop passing teams , no pass rush and no secondary
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Hope they also understand if we pass the av. pts per game, it has nothing to do with knapp. Most of those are garbage time points due to a horrid defensive unit we have. But our D hears what knapp has to say, so I think they are infected to some degree like the offense has been. These o and d teams aren’t isoloated from each other. Bad schemes can cross over and infect the players.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
What up Nation!!!
Raiders are running the table to finish 9-7.
Three games will be huge but I like the psychology involved in each contest:
1. Cincy: Palmer returns motivated to do everything possible to win. Reggie, D.A. will also be motivated to validate dumping Hue/being a better HC than Hue.
2. Denver: This game at home and hopefully we get off to a good start in 1st quarter.
3. Team has one last chance to end season with an East Coast win.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
How is this years D really better?
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The run D has been better for the most part, and if Hue was here we’d be scoring more and sustaining more drives keeping the D off the field.
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We’re already sustaining drives we’re 21st in time of possession yet ranks 32nd in D
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Where’s Fangs?
I’m surprised to not read one “Baboon Friday” joke yet. He must be out there in line somewhere. Hopefully getting a great deal on an attitude adjustment.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
81.Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
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Hue woulda procured a bona-fide DC, so I believe we woulda won, and pretty tough to move on from Hue since he was unjustly let go and his ‘replacements’ suck ass balls.
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Exactly and bringing back Knapp is proof positive of that all by itself!
Ugh
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
we wouldn’t have won against top teams with this D, even if Hue was still here , then maybe we can all move on from HUE talk for once and all
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Hue woulda procured a bona-fide DC, so I believe we woulda won, and pretty tough to move on from Hue since he was unjustly let go and his ‘replacements’ suck ass balls.
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Really a bona-fide DC? like who the eff was available ? Dick Lebeau? Monte Kiffin?
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Jack Del Rio who has bay area roots.
– ANd work with Who in here? WHere’s V Miller and Elvin DUmerville to rush the passer from both sides, where’s Champ Bailey on this team
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
“I just kind of opened the can, and now they’re taking it to a whole other level. So they’re doing a good job with him.”
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Even Hue Jackson HIMSELF states that Knapp is doing a better job of utilizing Reece than he did.
Won’t be long before Reece has more yards from scrimmage this season, then his two years under Hue COMBINED.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hope you guys understand we only averaged 22 PPG last year and maybe that may topped to 25 PPG this year but our D has regressed talent wise,and is the worst D in the league , if you guys look at all the top passing Os we faced last year we pretty much lost against them, and we have already faced more better Passing teams this year than all of last year combined, until we fix this D which has nothing to with scheme , it lacks talent to stop passing teams , no pass rush and no secondary
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Hope they also understand if we pass the av. pts per game, it has nothing to do with knapp. Most of those are garbage time points due to a horrid defensive unit we have. But our D hears what knapp has to say, so I think they are infected to some degree like the offense has been. These o and d teams aren’t isoloated from each other. Bad schemes can cross over and infect the players.
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I’m talking about if Hue was still here , we may have averaged 25 this year, but our D is allowing 33 so it wouldn’t have mattered
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
89.Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hope you guys understand we only averaged 22 PPG last year and maybe that may topped to 25 PPG this year but our D has regressed talent wise,and is the worst D in the league , if you guys look at all the top passing Os we faced last year we pretty much lost against them, and we have already faced more better Passing teams this year than all of last year combined, until we fix this D which has nothing to with scheme , it lacks talent to stop passing teams , no pass rush and no secondary
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Hope they also understand if we pass the av. pts per game, it has nothing to do with knapp. Most of those are garbage time points due to a horrid defensive unit we have. But our D hears what knapp has to say, so I think they are infected to some degree like the offense has been. These o and d teams aren’t isoloated from each other. Bad schemes can cross over and infect the players.
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Yep. Garbage time O stats and yes bad schemes, lousy game management, lack of adjustments, bad play calling all cross over to the players and their mentality.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
83.eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YEah ofcourse, we were that close to losing 4 more games, DEN game where orton was leading a nice drive, he fumbles the ball trying to throw with no one even near him , Houston game , Schaub is at the 5 yard line all he needed was 1 pass completion to win, Chicago game , we barely beat Cutlers backup who was as good as our back up last year, KC game barely beat them Seymour got his fingers on KC game winning FG try,
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None of that is luck, the D forced those errors and we blocked a fg thats not luck, its called making a play.
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Do you realize how many “close” games the ‘76 Raiders won?
If not for a 17 pt. comeback in the last 3 mins. they lose wk 1 to Pitt.
They “barely” beat a bad GB team at home 13-9, if not for a last second fg doinking off the upright they lose at Chi., they only beat KC by 4 pt’s BOTH times i think.
My point is we can talk “if” this or “if” that all day long, but those “if’s” work both ways.
“If” our defense can make one damn stop against Buffalo we win. “If” McClain doesn’t drop a sure int on the last drive we still win, “if” Branch doesn’t let a 4th quarter td go right thru his hands we win that game. “If” we hold Detroit at their 1 yd. line we win. “If” we didn’t have McClain covering Megatron we win that game.
I’d say Buffalo and Detroit were the ones who got “lucky”.
Now were discounting Houston game too cuz we made a play at the end? And KC cuz we blocked a fg?
“If” we hold SD at their 1/2 yd. line and don’t allow Mike Freaking Tolbert to run for a 42 yd gain we win that game.
“If’s” work both ways and they worked more against us last yr.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
95.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
“I just kind of opened the can, and now they’re taking it to a whole other level. So they’re doing a good job with him.”
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Even Hue Jackson HIMSELF states that Knapp is doing a better job of utilizing Reece than he did.
Won’t be long before Reece has more yards from scrimmage this season, then his two years under Hue COMBINED.
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Hue being nice. Only reason Reece has been utilized is due to DMC injury. Reece should have been utilized more with DMC in there.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
We’re only averaging 20 seconds less in time of possession from last year
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
The only bad players we have on D is Gio, and MM34 everyone else would play better under a legit DC
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
None of that is luck, the D forced those errors and we blocked a fg thats not luck, its called making a play.
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So the same should be said for the Pitt game this year right?
I don’t believe in luck or any of that, you are what you are. We were an 8-8 team last year that peaked at the wrong time and floundered down the stretch.
Now hindsight being 20/20, maybe we should have rolled the Hue dice for one more year. But how could you expect any GM, fresh off watching this team implode in Green Bay and Miami, and fall flat on their face at home to end the season, and think we need to keep the HC?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
The decision to fire Hue, to me, is the worst decision made in at least the last 20 or so years of Raiders football. Worse than drafting JaMarcus, worse than Art Shell Part II and the B&B offense, worse than the Javon Walker/Deangelo Hall contracts, worse than everything.
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No way was it worse then Jasyruphead or trading Chuckie
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
83.eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YEah ofcourse, we were that close to losing 4 more games, DEN game where orton was leading a nice drive, he fumbles the ball trying to throw with no one even near him , Houston game , Schaub is at the 5 yard line all he needed was 1 pass completion to win, Chicago game , we barely beat Cutlers backup who was as good as our back up last year, KC game barely beat them Seymour got his fingers on KC game winning FG try,
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None of that is luck, the D forced those errors and we blocked a fg thats not luck, its called making a play.
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Do you realize how many “close” games the ‘76 Raiders won?
If not for a 17 pt. comeback in the last 3 mins. they lose wk 1 to Pitt.
They “barely” beat a bad GB team at home 13-9, if not for a last second fg doinking off the upright they lose at Chi., they only beat KC by 4 pt’s BOTH times i think.
My point is we can talk “if” this or “if” that all day long, but those “if’s” work both ways.
“If” our defense can make one damn stop against Buffalo we win. “If” McClain doesn’t drop a sure int on the last drive we still win, “if” Branch doesn’t let a 4th quarter td go right thru his hands we win that game. “If” we hold Detroit at their 1 yd. line we win. “If” we didn’t have McClain covering Megatron we win that game.
I’d say Buffalo and Detroit were the ones who got “lucky”.
Now were discounting Houston game too cuz we made a play at the end? And KC cuz we blocked a fg?
“If” we hold SD at their 1/2 yd. line and don’t allow Mike Freaking Tolbert to run for a 42 yd gain we win that game.
“If’s” work both ways and they worked more against us last yr.
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I’m not trying to discount last year, every team can use If’s both ways and can make the case , I’m pretty sure 0-16 lions could use if this and if that to the tune of atleast 8-8 record but all I’m saying is you can only compare how this team is doing against identical opponents, so far we have beaten 2-3 bad teams, about par with how we did last year but we faced more worse teams last year
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Even Hue Jackson HIMSELF states that Knapp is doing a better job of utilizing Reece than he did.
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It’s called a professional courtesy. Reece shoulda been the #2 punch of a 1-2 punch from the get go.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Only reason Reece has been utilized is due to DMC injury.
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Then what is the excuse for last year?
After Darren got hurt, he got 15 carries out of 9 games, and a whole 2 touches the last game of the season, with everything on the line.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Contrary to people’s bias opinion, Reece was on pace for more yards from scrimmage in 2012 than 2011, BEFORE DARREN WAS HURT.
Look it up, and go stand in the corner.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
105.Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Even Hue Jackson HIMSELF states that Knapp is doing a better job of utilizing Reece than he did.
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It’s called a professional courtesy. Reece shoulda been the #2 punch of a 1-2 punch from the get go.
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Yep.
Plus Hue learned from last year, not to say too much or talk too much obviously.
The only reason he was fired last year, which was a stupid overzealous reason to fire him.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Eastoak
Delrio would have been great for the team, especially as head coach. I am aiming for a strong finish by the team and then scouting the coaching ranks for ST coach, a D coach and maybe someone to replace Knapp, but I doubt that.
Some good coaches and staff will be dumped this offseason. great time for DA to solidify his staff
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
107.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Contrary to people’s bias opinion, Reece was on pace for more yards from scrimmage in 2012 than 2011, BEFORE DARREN WAS HURT.
Look it up, and go stand in the corner.
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Blah…blah..blah..why do you defend DA and Knapp so much?
It’s dumb….oh thats right you were a Hue hater. hahaha
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
All I’m saying is keeping Hue and his offense wouldn’t have mattered when teams can score on this team at will
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Ahhhh…..”professional courtesy”.
Kind of like what Palmer and Seymour said about Hue this week?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Blah…blah..blah..why do you defend DA and Knapp so much?
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I don’t know, maybe because they are the coaches of my favorite football team?
Blah, blah, blah = checkmate
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
For all you morons that wanted Gruden well, guess what, you get your Gruden. Personally I never wanted Gruden back, but you guys just got your wish. Unfortunately, it’s Jay Gruden and he’s the OC over in Cincy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
109.Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Eastoak
Delrio would have been great for the team, especially as head coach. I am aiming for a strong finish by the team and then scouting the coaching ranks for ST coach, a D coach and maybe someone to replace Knapp, but I doubt that.
Some good coaches and staff will be dumped this offseason. great time for DA to solidify his staff
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If Knapp stays as OC, then McK needs to trade DMC and get as many picks as he can for him.
Knapp has ruined DMC’s career enough and if he would have utilized Reece more with DMC in there, teams would not have focused so much on stopping DMC and things could have perhaps open things up for DMC more.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I’m talking about if Hue was still here , we may have averaged 25 this year, but our D is allowing 33 so it wouldn’t have mattered
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Understand this Mc20, Offense makes your Defense better by default just go back to our 2002 SB team, our D was bad then too and guess who the DC was? Chuck B. But our O was so good and we sustained those long drives our D stayed fresh and just had to hang on and thats what they did more times than not.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
113.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Blah…blah..blah..why do you defend DA and Knapp so much?
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I don’t know, maybe because they are the coaches of my favorite football team?
Blah, blah, blah = checkmate
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Oh okay….blind faith. Zzzzzzzzzzzz…..
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
At least with Al Davis you knew his wheels were always spinning. With this cast, not so sure they even know their wheels are flat.
Now to the Apple Cup. That outta be a real thriller of a barn burner (sarcasm intented).
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
109.Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Eastoak
Delrio would have been great for the team, especially as head coach. I am aiming for a strong finish by the team and then scouting the coaching ranks for ST coach, a D coach and maybe someone to replace Knapp, but I doubt that.
Some good coaches and staff will be dumped this offseason. great time for DA to solidify his staff
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If Knapp stays as OC, then McK needs to trade DMC and get as many picks as he can for him.
Knapp has ruined DMC’s career enough and if he would have utilized Reece more with DMC in there, teams would not have focused so much on stopping DMC and things could have perhaps open things up for DMC more.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
114.Seymour Bush Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
For all you morons that wanted Gruden well, guess what, you get your Gruden. Personally I never wanted Gruden back, but you guys just got your wish. Unfortunately, it’s Jay Gruden and he’s the OC over in Cincy.
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WTF??? LOL
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
508.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
501.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
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Exactly. 2 of the 3 wins came against worse teams than the Raiders and they got lucky versus the Jags.
Beating Pitt was luck as well, because Pitt turned the ball over.
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Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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Whatever way you want to look at it.
Fact is…Hue’s Raiders were still one game away from playoffs despite Hue losing his legendary owner/defacto GM, starting QB and star RB for mid season and despite being strapped with a crappy azz DC.
Hue did an amazing job last year despite the circumstances and all the adversity he faced. He deserved a 2nd season with a REAL DC and a new GM.
Davis and McK screwed up…period!
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Tired of people holding up last season like it was the friggen holy grail. We were 8&8! The ONLY reason we were playoff contenders is because everyone else in the division sucked as bad as we did.
Hue wasn’t ready to be an HC and he sure as hell wasn’t ready to be a GM. He let that sh*t go to his head and we all paid the price for it.
Everyone seems to forget that it was Hue’s team that lost our last game.
If you know anything at all about football, then you know that Reggie had no choice but to fire Jackson.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
How bad can Chekwa be? If DA don’t promote the kid from practice squad tomorrow to fill Curry’s roster spot, then he must really be bad. And what does it say about DVD?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
All I’m saying is keeping Hue and his offense wouldn’t have mattered when teams can score on this team at will
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Not this year they wouldn’t of. Hue would have done his homework in the off season and brought in a bona-fide DC. That much is common knowledge. Letting Hue go was wrong.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I don’t see us winning out. I think we might go 5-11 if we play good, or even 6-10 if we get lucky. But that’s it. And this is coming from someone that predicted us to go 11-5 at the beginning of the season.
A lot of it has to do with the players, but coaches don’t get a free pass on my book. It is true that the injuries don’t help, and it plays a big factor in gameplanning and execution, but it is the coaches job to make it work and account for injuries to key players. You must have a back up plan, being the type of game it is, injuries are a part of the game.
My fault ratio falls like this, coaches, players, injuries – 40-40-20.
As much as I am tired of seeing new coaches, and schemes, I think Knapp has to go next season, and Tarver is not far behind. I thought we couldn’t get any worse than last year, but we are well on track to accomplish that on D.
Knapp needs to go because of his stupid ways to try and force feed his zbs to a line that didn’t have the players for it, and a RB that obviously didn’t know how to run in that system. It was clear the first time he was here, and yet, here we are trying it again. What is the definition of insanity again?….
I was not sure about this before, but now I think it is best to trade McFadden and get either pics to fill the huge holes on this team, or get a solid vet player or two.
I think his contract is up this year anyway, and I really don’t think he will resign with us, or we will pay what he wants.
As of now, I can care less what happens to DA and Reggie. IF they are fired, then so be it, but you better get someone in here that knows what they are doing, not some rookie a$$ HC. Not again. Al was known for doing this, and eventhough he had some success, his failures were notable as well. Now is the time to get someone with experience in here, not some rookie. So that this mess can finally be fixed, hopefully.
However, if DA and Reggie do stay, then they better take their heads out their collective a$$es and start making the right moves. Because I am about ready to pick up my pitch fork and torch and make my way down to Alameda. Who’s coming with me!?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I’m talking about if Hue was still here , we may have averaged 25 this year, but our D is allowing 33 so it wouldn’t have mattered
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Understand this Mc20, Offense makes your Defense better by default just go back to our 2002 SB team, our D was bad then too and guess who the DC was? Chuck B. But our O was so good and we sustained those long drives our D stayed fresh and just had to hang on and thats what they did more times than not.
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That’s not the case, they just simply had more talent on that side, if O’s really helped Ds out that much, then why were both NE and GB ranked in the bottom 15 in D categories last year?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
64.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
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Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
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Of course he’s damaged goods. He’s sitting, right? Again, he’s out with an injury. Again, he’s sitting on the bench, not helping the team, while collecting a huge paycheck each Monday.
This has happened each and every year he has been in the NFL.
If that’s not the definition of damaged, what is?
DMAC would command a huge contract.
History says he’ll collect it, while on the bench.
No, not worth it at all.
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Damaged goods is a player who has a more permanent long lingering injury.
I think you value unknown 2nd and 3rd round picks in this years draft way too much.
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You really don’t view a player who can’t stay off of IR year after year after year as not damaged?
You think other teams view a player who is injury prone the same as a player who rarely/ever gets injured?
Again, why would a GM risk that?
DMAC’s salary cap hit next year is over 8 mil.
For a player who’s contributed only 400, 450, 500 and 500 yds in 4 of the last 5 years? While collecting over 32 million during those 5 years? (this year included)
Not going to happen.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
The way it looks is that JFB and Mcfadden20 are happy with this coaching staff and the changes that were made this off season.
Conversely, DJ, Dknight, east, and los are disgusted with the coaching choices that were made and the reek of regression this new coaching staff has produced thus far this year.
amirite?
carry on gents.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
None of that is luck, the D forced those errors and we blocked a fg thats not luck, its called making a play.
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So the same should be said for the Pitt game this year right?
I don’t believe in luck or any of that, you are what you are. We were an 8-8 team last year that peaked at the wrong time and floundered down the stretch.
Now hindsight being 20/20, maybe we should have rolled the Hue dice for one more year. But how could you expect any GM, fresh off watching this team implode in Green Bay and Miami, and fall flat on their face at home to end the season, and think we need to keep the HC?
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Well then by your logic Reggie should fire DA right?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
121.oldschoolraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
508.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
501.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
All these writers will just look at the record they won’t check who the wins came against, how we fared against top teams, how many good teams did we beat and other stuff, how our D fared against teams like we have faced last 3 games all that stuff, but ofcourse the want to sell their newspapers so they will just right anything over-reactive fans want to read
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Exactly. 2 of the 3 wins came against worse teams than the Raiders and they got lucky versus the Jags.
Beating Pitt was luck as well, because Pitt turned the ball over.
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Same could be said for last year 6 of 8 wins came against teams worse than Raiders and 3 or 4 of them were pure luck
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Whatever way you want to look at it.
Fact is…Hue’s Raiders were still one game away from playoffs despite Hue losing his legendary owner/defacto GM, starting QB and star RB for mid season and despite being strapped with a crappy azz DC.
Hue did an amazing job last year despite the circumstances and all the adversity he faced. He deserved a 2nd season with a REAL DC and a new GM.
Davis and McK screwed up…period!
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Tired of people holding up last season like it was the friggen holy grail. We were 8&8! The ONLY reason we were playoff contenders is because everyone else in the division sucked as bad as we did.
Hue wasn’t ready to be an HC and he sure as hell wasn’t ready to be a GM. He let that sh*t go to his head and we all paid the price for it.
Everyone seems to forget that it was Hue’s team that lost our last game.
If you know anything at all about football, then you know that Reggie had no choice but to fire Jackson.
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I’m tired of Hue haters, make excuses cause they were WRONG!
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
The way it looks is that JFB and Mcfadden20 are happy with this coaching staff and the changes that were made this off season.
Conversely, DJ, Dknight, east, and los are disgusted with the coaching choices that were made and the reek of regression this new coaching staff has produced thus far this year.
amirite?
carry on gents.
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correct.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Firebaby said:
I don’t know, maybe because they are the coaches of my favorite football team?
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Did you bump your head? Hue Johnson had this team one inch from the playoffs. Dmac was the greatest dual purpose RB in the NFL. The PBS was blowing people off the field. We would be talking superbowl instead of draft picks.
Reggie ruined the team and Knapp ruined it first.
some peoples kids SMH
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Dumb lonely tr0ll. Another lame joke!
#get a life
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Seymour Bush Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
For all you morons that wanted Gruden well, guess what, you get your Gruden. Personally I never wanted Gruden back, but you guys just got your wish. Unfortunately, it’s Jay Gruden and he’s the OC over in Cincy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
All I’m saying is keeping Hue and his offense wouldn’t have mattered when teams can score on this team at will
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Not this year they wouldn’t of. Hue would have done his homework in the off season and brought in a bona-fide DC. That much is common knowledge. Letting Hue go was wrong.
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Easier said than done, this team has no pass rusher, you can’t beat teams in this passing league with no pass rusher, schemes don’t matter when you can’t put pressure on qb’s
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
126.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
64.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
37.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC is damaged goods.
Can’t imagine any GM making a deal for DMAC.
Not worth the risk.
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Some GM would…if it’s the right deal. DMC is not damaged goods. He is still a playmaker.
Your trying to tell me, no GM would give at least a 3rd for DMC? Some team would definitely do that…cause it’s worth it.
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Of course he’s damaged goods. He’s sitting, right? Again, he’s out with an injury. Again, he’s sitting on the bench, not helping the team, while collecting a huge paycheck each Monday.
This has happened each and every year he has been in the NFL.
If that’s not the definition of damaged, what is?
DMAC would command a huge contract.
History says he’ll collect it, while on the bench.
No, not worth it at all.
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Damaged goods is a player who has a more permanent long lingering injury.
I think you value unknown 2nd and 3rd round picks in this years draft way too much.
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You really don’t view a player who can’t stay off of IR year after year after year as not damaged?
You think other teams view a player who is injury prone the same as a player who rarely/ever gets injured?
Again, why would a GM risk that?
DMAC’s salary cap hit next year is over 8 mil.
For a player who’s contributed only 400, 450, 500 and 500 yds in 4 of the last 5 years? While collecting over 32 million during those 5 years? (this year included)
Not going to happen.
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Forgot about the salary thing. Unless a team wants to rework DMC’s contract to be way more cap friendly?
McK should try and trade Ford for a 3rd Rounder than.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
The way it looks is that JFB and Mcfadden20 are happy with this coaching staff and the changes that were made this off season.
Conversely, DJ, Dknight, east, and los are disgusted with the coaching choices that were made and the reek of regression this new coaching staff has produced thus far this year.
amirite?
carry on gents.
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Nope not happy with everything , still want Knapp and Special teams coach fired
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
HI PEOPLES
GGOOOO RRAAIIDDEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
When did this blog become less about discussing the Raiders and more about insulting everyone who disagrees with you? Or has it always been this way?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Ahhhh…..”professional courtesy”.
Kind of like what Palmer and Seymour said about Hue this week?
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EXACTLY.
What is so hard to grasp that it’s a pretty SET RULE THAT ALMOST EVERY PLAYER AND COACH IS TAUGHT…DON’T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT OTHER PLAYERS OR COACHES, UNLESS YOU WANT TO MAKE HEADLINES.
Every so often a player gets baited by the media, and says something he not only quickly regrets, but that every other player points to (or has it pointed out) that “See?? That’s why you don’t open your mouth.”
And because the media loves to twist words, many players have nothing at all to do with the media.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
When did this blog become less about discussing the Raiders and more about insulting everyone who disagrees with you? Or has it always been this way?
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It seems like pro Hue guys are more common with that theme
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Or maybe McK can trade Shaunessy for 3rd Rounder?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
When did this blog become less about discussing the Raiders and more about insulting everyone who disagrees with you? Or has it always been this way?
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You already know the answer, so why ask it?
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
139.mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
When did this blog become less about discussing the Raiders and more about insulting everyone who disagrees with you? Or has it always been this way?
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It seems like pro Hue guys are more common with that theme
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Nope. Other way around.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Shaugnessy for 3rd ? LMAO , if hew as a FA , he will only see 1 year contracts from about 5 teams
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
No duck it has not always been this way. It use to be worse, much worse.
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True story
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Easier said than done, this team has no pass rusher, you can’t beat teams in this passing league with no pass rusher, schemes don’t matter when you can’t put pressure on qb’s
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Hue knew the glaring problems and needs. This new regime did not. They just had a pipe dream they wanted to force feed onto the players. It failed before, and it has failed again. The should have built around personel, fixed the obvious with a pass rush and kept Bush. They didn’t.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
No duck it has not always been this way. It use to be worse, much worse.
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True story
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The blog is so much more tame these days.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Ghost: “For a player who’s contributed only 400, 450, 500 and 500 yds in 4 of the last 5 years? While collecting over 32 million during those 5 years? (this year included)
Not going to happen.”
That last 500 should have been 600
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I’m talking about if Hue was still here , we may have averaged 25 this year, but our D is allowing 33 so it wouldn’t have mattered
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Understand this Mc20, Offense makes your Defense better by default just go back to our 2002 SB team, our D was bad then too and guess who the DC was? Chuck B. But our O was so good and we sustained those long drives our D stayed fresh and just had to hang on and thats what they did more times than not.
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That’s not the case, they just simply had more talent on that side, if O’s really helped Ds out that much, then why were both NE and GB ranked in the bottom 15 in D categories last year?
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Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Anyways. This team is terrible.
Let’s just hope McK can draft Te’o or Jones in the draft next year.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Easier said than done, this team has no pass rusher, you can’t beat teams in this passing league with no pass rusher, schemes don’t matter when you can’t put pressure on qb’s
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Hue knew the glaring problems and needs. This new regime did not. They just had a pipe dream they wanted to force feed onto the players. It failed before, and it has failed again. The should have built around personel, fixed the obvious with a pass rush and kept Bush. They didn’t.
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yeah like Hue could have brought us M Williams on 2M per year contract LMAO
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
145.Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Easier said than done, this team has no pass rusher, you can’t beat teams in this passing league with no pass rusher, schemes don’t matter when you can’t put pressure on qb’s
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Hue knew the glaring problems and needs. This new regime did not. They just had a pipe dream they wanted to force feed onto the players. It failed before, and it has failed again. The should have built around personel, fixed the obvious with a pass rush and kept Bush. They didn’t.
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Exactly! Now regression and more losing and bad football for at least 2 more years….AT LEAST…if not longer. Ooff!
Ugh!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan. There’s no way to know, but I think he would have given his heart and soul to this team this year, and we would be playoff bound. WIth a decent DC of course.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
When did this blog become less about discussing the Raiders and more about insulting everyone who disagrees with you? Or has it always been this way?
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It’s basically always been that way. One thing about the ant-Allen camp is it is not like he took over a 12-4 team that got to the AFC Championship Game the year before and turned them into this. He took over a team that was O for its last 5, errrr, 1 for it’s last 5. A coin flip got Huey to playing .200 ball. Allen has got his team playing .300 ball. That’s improvement I guess.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
yeah like Hue could have brought us M Williams on 2M per year contract LMAO
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Not saying that, but who ever he had with his new bona-fide DC woulda coached up who ever they had. This coaching staff has mailed it in while throwing the players under the bus. It aint right.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan.
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Jackson was a shameless self promoter who only cared about the Raiders because their logo was on top of his paycheck. Cable was actually a Raider and a Raider fan. Based on your logic we should have kept Cable.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
No duck it has not always been this way. It use to be worse, much worse.
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True story
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The blog is so much more tame these days.
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Suck eggs.
How’s that?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan. There’s no way to know, but I think he would have given his heart and soul to this team this year, and we would be playoff bound. WIth a decent DC of course.
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Hard to imagine DA being a fan, willing to give every emotion to this team like Hue did. DA is all coach speak and the players have a hard time swallowing it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Exactly! Now regression and more losing and bad football for at least 2 more years….AT LEAST…if not longer. Ooff!
Ugh!
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It can easily be longer than 2 years to right this ship.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan.
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Jackson was a shameless self promoter who only cared about the Raiders because their logo was on top of his paycheck. Cable was actually a Raider and a Raider fan. Based on your logic we should have kept Cable.
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I liked Cable too with Jackson as OC.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
152.EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan. There’s no way to know, but I think he would have given his heart and soul to this team this year, and we would be playoff bound. WIth a decent DC of course.
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Yeah. It was a dumb decision to get rid of him after only 1 year as head coach and 1 as OC. The passion, energy and continuity was there and Hue brought it.
Was the heck does DA, Knapp, Tarver and Hoffman bring?
Big Wiz saw the BS and cut out.
3 head coaches in 3 years?? Yikes!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I’m talking about if Hue was still here , we may have averaged 25 this year, but our D is allowing 33 so it wouldn’t have mattered
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Understand this Mc20, Offense makes your Defense better by default just go back to our 2002 SB team, our D was bad then too and guess who the DC was? Chuck B. But our O was so good and we sustained those long drives our D stayed fresh and just had to hang on and thats what they did more times than not.
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That’s not the case, they just simply had more talent on that side, if O’s really helped Ds out that much, then why were both NE and GB ranked in the bottom 15 in D categories last year?
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Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
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OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan.
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Jackson was a shameless self promoter who only cared about the Raiders because their logo was on top of his paycheck. Cable was actually a Raider and a Raider fan. Based on your logic we should have kept Cable.
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True words.
Hue instantly became a media whore. Never saw a mic he didn’t love. Somewhere along the line you could see his head swell the more attention he got. He rivaled TO for “I love me some me”
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan. There’s no way to know, but I think he would have given his heart and soul to this team this year, and we would be playoff bound. WIth a decent DC of course.
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Hard to imagine DA being a fan, willing to give every emotion to this team like Hue did. DA is all coach speak and the players have a hard time swallowing it.
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I recognized this in the beginning of the season when he said that all teams were going to be viewed equally, when asked about the rivalries in the AFC W, specially him coming from Denver. I thought to myself, oh no, there goes the competitiveness and emotion needed to play in those games.
Denver, SD and KC sure play us differently than other teams. You can see it and feel it through the TV! It used to be that way with us, but this year, they seem to not care enough about division rivalries.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
158.Seymour Bush Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Exactly! Now regression and more losing and bad football for at least 2 more years….AT LEAST…if not longer. Ooff!
Ugh!
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It can easily be longer than 2 years to right this ship.
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I honestly don’t see the team improving much next year especially with Knapp and his ZBS crap and Hoffman as special teams coach returning.
If they only win 4-5 games again next year, with that same staff….I can see McK furing him after next season.
I would take Andy Reid or even Jay Gruden as head coach over DA and some of this crappy staff any day of the week.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Hard to imagine DA being a fan, willing to give every emotion to this team like Hue did. DA is all coach speak and the players have a hard time swallowing it.
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The players are playing hard, there is no doubt about that. (Other than McFadden but why is that not a shock). It’s just that we don’t have the horses. Our interior triangle on the Oline is getting their collective asses kicked, we have no, none, nunka pass rush, McClain has turned into well, McClain, and Mike Mitchell just let guys do the sugar dance right past him into the endzone with the game still in hand. Kind of hard to fire Dennis Allen because of that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
yeah like Hue could have brought us M Williams on 2M per year contract LMAO
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Not saying that, but who ever he had with his new bona-fide DC woulda coached up who ever they had. This coaching staff has mailed it in while throwing the players under the bus. It aint right.
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OMG LMAO COACHED UP ? REALLY ? IF THAT WAS SO Easy to coach up anyone why does NYG always keep on drafting DE in first rd , why did DEN drafted Von MIller with #2 over-all pick when they could have coached up anyone who could have gotton 15 sacks a year, why did Buffalo throw about 100 M on WIlliams if they could have coached up anyone , Why did Den went out and gave P Manning 20 million a year, when they could have gotten a FA QB for about half a million and coached him up ? LMAO, this was funny as hell , keep em coming
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I have nothing against Hue, if he was retained, fine. He was canned, not a big deal, easily replaceable.
Let’s be honest with ourselves, where else was he a candidate to ever be hired/promoted? Nowhere. With all due respect, he was the classic stooge, lackie that Al would hire. As a HC, he was a great OC, know what I mean? He did a solid job all things considered, but to lament his departure is just a little bit misguided IMO. If this season were even approaching a level of decency, I don’t think there’d be one word about Hue mentioned/typed?
The mistake/tragedy made with reference to Hue is that Al Saunders wasn’t utilized to continue the offense. That has made everything worse. Perception and in reality.
Out of all the moves the new regime have made, that is THE head scratcher. It was so unecessary and it’s affected everything in a negative way.
- even if McFadden wasn’t in the long-term plans, his trade value has been destroyed now.
- Palmer, McFadden and other capable players on the offense transition between confused, lost and desperate. It’s almost sad to watch.
- no sustainable drives, no red zone conversions settling for FGs, exposing further an already sub standard defence by having them on the filed too much, too often.
Whether he intended to or not, Reggie turned a team in transition into a complete rebuild. This was a renovation job, not a tear down.
Reggie still has my support and I think he’ll knock it out of the park in the next few drafts building up depth. The current roster will get pillaged even more and DA gets at least another season with new guys.
Having said that, if the rest of the season goes in the same manner that the last 3 games have gone…..how can the organization not hold some coaches/coordinator accountable for that?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I honestly don’t see the team improving much next year especially with Knapp and his ZBS crap and Hoffman as special teams coach returning.
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I agree. The bad news: the team is absolutely married to Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen. The good news, the team is not married to Hoffman, Knapp or Tarver.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Now its about who loved the team more, IS Bilichick fan of Pats is coughin fan of NYG, being a fan of certain team doesn’t lead to more wins LMAO
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hue Jackson should have stayed. If for nothing else, simply because he had the Raider heart that gave him the passion and love for this team. Sometimes that is the one thing that helps you win games. He was clearly not only the coach of this team, but also a fan.
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Jackson was a shameless self promoter who only cared about the Raiders because their logo was on top of his paycheck. Cable was actually a Raider and a Raider fan. Based on your logic we should have kept Cable.
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True words.
Hue instantly became a media whore. Never saw a mic he didn’t love. Somewhere along the line you could see his head swell the more attention he got. He rivaled TO for “I love me some me”
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Yea, he was a media whore. True. But I would trade that for the passion and Offense he brought each sunday anyday. I think it was all part of the package. His one mistake was to try and include himself in the GM decision making, to the extent of hinting at himself filling that position. But other than that, he was ok with me. Gruden, to a lesser extent, was a media whore too.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
I can see Jay Gruden winding up in Philly also.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
1. RaiderRockstar…
I already re-corrected you about the DL. The DL starters are essentially the same as last season. (RDE)-Kelly-Seymour-Houston. Wauffle, like an excellent position coach, was able to get more out of that same group.
2. Browns, Chiefs, Panthers, and Chargers…
These teams are playing far better than the Raiders. Browns have been ultra-competitive for one, and would probably embarrass us, further icing the cake on the state of the Raiders under RM/DA/Knapp/Tarver. Chiefs maybe a win. Panthers have lost a lot of close games against good opponents. We get destroyed by them. Chargers love to kick us when we’re down, like last season.
3. David Shaw…
The only reservation with the idea of hiring Shaw as HC? We’ll go thru the same thing as this year, a rookie HC hiring his own staff, and if things go pear-shaped early, possibility of excuses being made etc, and then the fans will smell blood and tear him apart too. Gruden would make the most sense for us on many levels.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I’m talking about if Hue was still here , we may have averaged 25 this year, but our D is allowing 33 so it wouldn’t have mattered
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Understand this Mc20, Offense makes your Defense better by default just go back to our 2002 SB team, our D was bad then too and guess who the DC was? Chuck B. But our O was so good and we sustained those long drives our D stayed fresh and just had to hang on and thats what they did more times than not.
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That’s not the case, they just simply had more talent on that side, if O’s really helped Ds out that much, then why were both NE and GB ranked in the bottom 15 in D categories last year?
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Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
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OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
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Adds up perfectly, NE and GB are in the middle of the pack because they have good O’s Oak is at the bottom of the pack because our O is garbage.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
HI CORK THANKS– PLEASE TELL THEM FOR ME THAT THEY CAN GO HOME AND DON’T COME BACK! I DON’T WANT THEM IN THE TEAM!
#2 I AM MAN – Hear this and read this to them or send.this to them and to REGGIE, ALLEN, MARK -THAT IT IS ME WHO DON’T WANT THEM IN MY TEAM NOW!
LOSERS —GET ME 3 NEW KIDS!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Mc Fadden read this Go Home.
You are not the only COKE IN THE DESSERT, theres other KIDS OUT THERE. I DON’T NEED YOU!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
YO HAPPY TURKEY LEG SEASON FROM THE BEEEEECH DIGGS
Brahs, instead of chowing down on some delicious turkey yesterday and I dined on some fabulous dark meat
Meaning I provided oral pleasures to a few wasted Nubian strippers
Gotta admit, if I wasn’t hammered on a Merlot I probably would’ve gagged on them pubes
It’s like “Dang Hos, ain’t none of you ever heard of an Epilady?”
Afterward my much respected hip hop production team – the Certified Platinum Posse – cruised over to the Beeech Pad to catch Duece Bielo European Gigolo on BluRay
That dudes hair is totally hilarious, holla
THAT GRAVY MAKES THE BEEEECH DAWG’S PUBES WAVY
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
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OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
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Adds up perfectly, NE and GB are in the middle of the pack because they have good O’s Oak is at the bottom of the pack because our O is garbage.
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But you said they keep them off the field ? which leads to Ds having better statistics, but both GB and Oak averaged more time than NE yet still lower D rankings
If you are going by points scored which led to better D rankings
Pitts 20th in PPG #1 in PPG Allowed
SF 11th in PPG #2 PPG Allowed
Balt 12 PPG- 3rd PPG allowed
Houston 10th in PPG – 4th in PPG ALlowed
Cleveland 30th in PPG – 5th in PPG allowed
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
yeah like Hue could have brought us M Williams on 2M per year contract LMAO
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Not saying that, but who ever he had with his new bona-fide DC woulda coached up who ever they had. This coaching staff has mailed it in while throwing the players under the bus. It aint right.
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OMG LMAO COACHED UP ? REALLY ? IF THAT WAS SO Easy to coach up anyone why does NYG always keep on drafting DE in first rd , why did DEN drafted Von MIller with #2 over-all pick when they could have coached up anyone who could have gotton 15 sacks a year, why did Buffalo throw about 100 M on WIlliams if they could have coached up anyone , Why did Den went out and gave P Manning 20 million a year, when they could have gotten a FA QB for about half a million and coached him up ? LMAO, this was funny as hell , keep em coming
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Whats really funny is your lack of football knowledge. you expose yourself daily on this blog with your asinine comments and that one you just made is another in a long line of dumb comments. you under estimate good coaching period.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
#175 – LOL,…. sounds like you two were going out and he cheated on you and now you are all bitter and want to let the world know about it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
SEYMORE — SAY NO MORE -Bye Bye!
I want Kids that want to play and want to impress their family
And put food in their table for their families !
THERES PLENTY OF LINEBACKS OUY THERE WHO NEED WORK!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
yeah like Hue could have brought us M Williams on 2M per year contract LMAO
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Not saying that, but who ever he had with his new bona-fide DC woulda coached up who ever they had. This coaching staff has mailed it in while throwing the players under the bus. It aint right.
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OMG LMAO COACHED UP ? REALLY ? IF THAT WAS SO Easy to coach up anyone why does NYG always keep on drafting DE in first rd , why did DEN drafted Von MIller with #2 over-all pick when they could have coached up anyone who could have gotton 15 sacks a year, why did Buffalo throw about 100 M on WIlliams if they could have coached up anyone , Why did Den went out and gave P Manning 20 million a year, when they could have gotten a FA QB for about half a million and coached him up ? LMAO, this was funny as hell , keep em coming
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Whats really funny is your lack of football knowledge. you expose yourself daily on this blog with your asinine comments and that one you just made is another in a long line of dumb comments. you under estimate good coaching period.
– MY LACK of football knowledge ? LMAO
Read this and tell me who really lacks knowledge
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
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OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
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Adds up perfectly, NE and GB are in the middle of the pack because they have good O’s Oak is at the bottom of the pack because our O is garbage.
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But you said they keep them off the field ? which leads to Ds having better statistics, but both GB and Oak averaged more time than NE yet still lower D rankings
If you are going by points scored which led to better D rankings
Pitts 20th in PPG #1 in PPG Allowed
SF 11th in PPG #2 PPG Allowed
Balt 12 PPG- 3rd PPG allowed
Houston 10th in PPG – 4th in PPG ALlowed
Cleveland 30th in PPG – 5th in PPG allowed
– REM of the top 10 D’s last year only 2 had top 10 O’s PHiladelphia and Houston
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Omoran, stop please. You are making me pee my pants. Seymore is a DL not a LB!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
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OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
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Adds up perfectly, NE and GB are in the middle of the pack because they have good O’s Oak is at the bottom of the pack because our O is garbage.
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But you said they keep them off the field ? which leads to Ds having better statistics, but both GB and Oak averaged more time than NE yet still lower D rankings
If you are going by points scored which led to better D rankings
Pitts 20th in PPG #1 in PPG Allowed
SF 11th in PPG #2 PPG Allowed
Balt 12 PPG- 3rd PPG allowed
Houston 10th in PPG – 4th in PPG ALlowed
Cleveland 30th in PPG – 5th in PPG allowed
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Its really simple but I see you like to complicate things. Indy’s D was never great but because of Manning and his O they were able to overcome their D woes, same can be said of the Rams greatest show on turf, same with NE the past few years.simple.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Blog Brahs, Nerds & Assorted Goobers
During this season of giving and thanks, wanna throw a huge Beeeech Diggity-style shout out to the baddest blog posse on the internet -
The PM Party Patrol
Homies (y’all know who you are – you’re probably getting a dope BJ right now), what a successful year full of great memories
We’ve beaten KrappyRat to a pulp, spanked my minions all across the blog and gotten high on mad dope reefer while 69ing hella wasted shorties
Let’s enjoy more beatdowns / glorious smackdowns before the year is up, then reload for 2013
Unfortunately, however, I just reloaded a mega duece in my BVDs
GUESS THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Eastoaklandraider you’re just stupid and you get exposed all the times so don’t bother replying back , yes good coaching matters cuz sometimes players are just underachieving but do you really think there are players on D side who can pass rush better but our coaching just isn’t getting it out of them?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
It’s like “Dang Hos, ain’t none of you ever heard of an Epilady?”
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Way back in High School, I asked a female friend if she’d ever used a Epilady. She described it as “having your hair ripped out with a hot soldering iron.”
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If DA were to walk the plank, Reggie needs to hire an experienced guy with a proven, successful track record. I love Chucky (still have my Nike pullover and sun visor!) but maybe a guy like Mike Holmgrenn would be a good fit? The era of the low budget stooge needs to come to an end in Oakland.
Reggie is new at his job, he is probably very busy dealing with creating a front office adminstrative structure, getting rid of typewriters, overhead projectors, Commodore 64s and Vic20s and replacing them with modern office equipment.
Just for the record, I loved Al Davis, but I can just as easily admit that he hung on too long and the Raiders suffered for it. Instead of trading Chucky in 2002, he should have taken a step back and handed the keys over to him and Bruce Allen.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
yeah like Hue could have brought us M Williams on 2M per year contract LMAO
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Not saying that, but who ever he had with his new bona-fide DC woulda coached up who ever they had. This coaching staff has mailed it in while throwing the players under the bus. It aint right.
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OMG LMAO COACHED UP ? REALLY ? IF THAT WAS SO Easy to coach up anyone why does NYG always keep on drafting DE in first rd , why did DEN drafted Von MIller with #2 over-all pick when they could have coached up anyone who could have gotton 15 sacks a year, why did Buffalo throw about 100 M on WIlliams if they could have coached up anyone , Why did Den went out and gave P Manning 20 million a year, when they could have gotten a FA QB for about half a million and coached him up ? LMAO, this was funny as hell , keep em coming
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Whats really funny is your lack of football knowledge. you expose yourself daily on this blog with your asinine comments and that one you just made is another in a long line of dumb comments. you under estimate good coaching period.
– MY LACK of football knowledge ? LMAO
Read this and tell me who really lacks knowledge
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
–
OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
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Adds up perfectly, NE and GB are in the middle of the pack because they have good O’s Oak is at the bottom of the pack because our O is garbage.
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But you said they keep them off the field ? which leads to Ds having better statistics, but both GB and Oak averaged more time than NE yet still lower D rankings
If you are going by points scored which led to better D rankings
Pitts 20th in PPG #1 in PPG Allowed
SF 11th in PPG #2 PPG Allowed
Balt 12 PPG- 3rd PPG allowed
Houston 10th in PPG – 4th in PPG ALlowed
Cleveland 30th in PPG – 5th in PPG allowed
– REM of the top 10 D’s last year only 2 had top 10 O’s PHiladelphia and Houston
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LOL you continue to show your lack of knowledge, all I said was that Great O’s overcome mediocre D, for exp our own 2002 Raiders D was avg but the O was elite thus SB contenders simple, and so are you.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Once again you miss the point, just imagine if GB and NE O’s were garbage how bad would their D’s be then. But since the O keeps them off the field they can stay in the middle of the pack.
–
OK 29:47 ATOP 29th ranked D
NE 28:32 ATOP 15th ranked D
GB 30.28 ATOP 19th ranked D
– something doesn’t add up
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Adds up perfectly, NE and GB are in the middle of the pack because they have good O’s Oak is at the bottom of the pack because our O is garbage.
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But you said they keep them off the field ? which leads to Ds having better statistics, but both GB and Oak averaged more time than NE yet still lower D rankings
If you are going by points scored which led to better D rankings
Pitts 20th in PPG #1 in PPG Allowed
SF 11th in PPG #2 PPG Allowed
Balt 12 PPG- 3rd PPG allowed
Houston 10th in PPG – 4th in PPG ALlowed
Cleveland 30th in PPG – 5th in PPG allowed
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Its really simple but I see you like to complicate things. Indy’s D was never great but because of Manning and his O they were able to overcome their D woes, same can be said of the Rams greatest show on turf, same with NE the past few years.simple.
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I don’t like to complicate things and lets begin with this first, with Hue we were not going to be anywhere near the level of Manning O’s and Rams “greatest show on turf” not with 40% of Mcfadden, not with this young receiving corp with no #1 receiver and 2nd our D was the worst of all time so unless Hue managed to get our O better than both of those teams , (which has no chance with this group) , then we might have had won those games , Comprehend ? nO?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
It’s like “Dang Hos, ain’t none of you ever heard of an Epilady?”
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Way back in High School, I asked a female friend if she’d ever used a Epilady. She described it as “having your hair ripped out with a hot soldering iron.”
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MC Duck, it’s either that or the Beeeeech Dawg’s tongue gets slightly chaffed
The choice is obvious
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Eastoaklandraider you’re just stupid and you get exposed all the times so don’t bother replying back , yes good coaching matters cuz sometimes players are just underachieving but do you really think there are players on D side who can pass rush better but our coaching just isn’t getting it out of them?
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I’m stupid LOL but your considered the blog village idiot by many.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
LOL you continue to show your lack of knowledge, all I said was that Great O’s overcome mediocre D, for exp our own 2002 Raiders D was avg but the O was elite thus SB contenders simple, and so are you.
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FIrst you need to fact check buddy you keep getting exposed over and over, 2002 Raiders D was # 6 in PPG allowed, and yes great O’s overcome mediocre D’s but this D is beyong Mediocre, it’s just plain Pathetic, and we were not going to be anywhere near great Offensive team with Hue, but yeah for sure i could have seen them average about 3 more points a game
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Eastoaklandraider you’re just stupid and you get exposed all the times so don’t bother replying back , yes good coaching matters cuz sometimes players are just underachieving but do you really think there are players on D side who can pass rush better but our coaching just isn’t getting it out of them?
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I’m stupid LOL but your considered the blog village idiot by many.
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The Blog Village Idiot vs The Blog Vanilla Ice
It’s an internet sissy slap fight. Sorry nerds, gots to keep it real
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Eastoaklandraider you’re just stupid and you get exposed all the times so don’t bother replying back , yes good coaching matters cuz sometimes players are just underachieving but do you really think there are players on D side who can pass rush better but our coaching just isn’t getting it out of them?
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I’m stupid LOL but your considered the blog village idiot by many.
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Like seriously you don’t even fact check sh1t , you said 2002 D was average but it was ranked # 6 overall , # 3 Against the run, is that average? I don’t think so , just goes to show that you know nothing about football , just like to talk sh1t out of your ass
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
ALLEN PLEASE: Make a line on the Training Fascility EARLY MONDAY MORNING and do this :–GRUDEN STYLE
#1 -ASK THEM WHO REALLY WANT TO PLAY AS A–RAIDER.
#2- GET THERE TIME–6-7 AM -GET STOP WATCH IN YOUR HAND AND GET RID OF THOSE OUT OF BREATH AND UNCONDITION PLAYERS.
#3 -BRING NEW KIDS ,SO THEY KNOW THEIR JOBS ARE ON LINE!
“No nonsence it allow and wont be allow .
. RAIDER OWNER
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
A good coach should be able to make up for underachieving players by implementing a scheme that helps hide their weaknesses and bring forth their strengths. At the same time though, a coach can only do so much with the talent he has, at some point, the coaching stops and the execution begins.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Its really simple but I see you like to complicate things. Indy’s D was never great but because of Manning and his O they were able to overcome their D woes, same can be said of the Rams greatest show on turf, same with NE the past few years.simple.
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I don’t like to complicate things and lets begin with this first, with Hue we were not going to be anywhere near the level of Manning O’s and Rams “greatest show on turf” not with 40% of Mcfadden, not with this young receiving corp with no #1 receiver and 2nd our D was the worst of all time so unless Hue managed to get our O better than both of those teams , (which has no chance with this group) , then we might have had won those games , Comprehend ? nO?
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Nobody said we were gonna be any one of those teams Mcdummy20 but Hue had us on that path and the O would be pretty explosive under Hue this year imo just based on his past and with CP3 in his O for a whole season, sky WAS the limit.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
A good coach should be able to make up for underachieving players by implementing a scheme that helps hide their weaknesses and bring forth their strengths. At the same time though, a coach can only do so much with the talent he has, at some point, the coaching stops and the execution begins.
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Explain how do they hide the lack of pass rush? put 11 in coverage? LMAO
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
187.GreatWhiteRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If DA were to walk the plank, Reggie needs to hire an experienced guy with a proven, successful track record. I love Chucky (still have my Nike pullover and sun visor!) but maybe a guy like Mike Holmgrenn would be a good fit? The era of the low budget stooge needs to come to an end in Oakland.
Reggie is new at his job, he is probably very busy dealing with creating a front office adminstrative structure, getting rid of typewriters, overhead projectors, Commodore 64s and Vic20s and replacing them with modern office equipment.
Just for the record, I loved Al Davis, but I can just as easily admit that he hung on too long and the Raiders suffered for it. Instead of trading Chucky in 2002, he should have taken a step back and handed the keys over to him and Bruce Allen.
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It would make sense. Pay the money to secure an experienced coach like Gruden or Reid to work with McK, which would be a good tandem.
But I think Mark Davis is setting this up, so he can sell a stake of Raiders to investors to build a stadium in LA or investors who can get it done here in Oakland for a new stadium
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Ahhh…a bad coaches crutch is always the lack of execution excuse. lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
A good coach should be able to make up for underachieving players by implementing a scheme that helps hide their weaknesses and bring forth their strengths. At the same time though, a coach can only do so much with the talent he has, at some point, the coaching stops and the execution begins.
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Explain how do they hide the lack of pass rush? put 11 in coverage? LMAO
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If you really read what I said, you would understand that I was in part agreeing with you. Thought it was pretty self explanatory.
Besides, why would you put 11 in coverage when you are trying to improve your pass rush? Wouldn’t you do the opposite and try to rush more people to the QB?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Like seriously you don’t even fact check sh1t , you said 2002 D was average but it was ranked # 6 overall , # 3 Against the run, is that average? I don’t think so , just goes to show that you know nothing about football , just like to talk sh1t out of your ass
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Like I said Mcdummy20 they were avg, only reason they were ranked that high was because they were hardly on the field and we still managed to have a few nail bitters that season, you continue to show your lack of knowledge stats can be misguiding sometimes Mcdummy20, like the year we were #1 against the pass but dead last against the run.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
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November 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
This players are always hurt and are no use to us. Let them know theres other kids out there who really want to play.
We mean Bussiness.
Christmas is coming and we need to -
PUT THE NEW ANIMALS IN THE NOAH S ARC BEFORE THE NEW YEAR
GET THAT REGGIE AND Mr. Davis.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
199.DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
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It would make sense. Pay the money to secure an experienced coach like Gruden or Reid to work with McK, which would be a good tandem.
But I think Mark Davis is setting this up, so he can sell a stake of Raiders to investors to build a stadium in LA or investors who can get it done here in Oakland for a new stadium
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Al was the organization pretty much (that was both good and bad) so for someone who is a 1st time GM, that’s a big vacuum for Reggie to fill. An experienced HC would take a lot of pressure off of him to focus on the front office stuff.
I think Mark Davis is genuine about making the Raiders a decent organization. I was motivated by him saying “he doesn’t know” and that’s why he’s hiring Reggie. Not too many Owners have the self-confidence to admit that. Hire quality football people and let them do their job. Really hope Reggie was the right guy.
I kinda have a bad feeling about LA myself. At first I would have bet: Rams/Chargers moving, then JAX/CAR kinda franchises. But I think that with Al gone, the NFL would love to have the Raiders back in LA for marketing, money making.
The more I look at it, Mark might find the grind of being an Owner too much, couple that with some soulless business entity offering him zillions….he might just say YES and accept?
And in LA, I’m gonna guess that an NFL stadium gets built at Chavez Ravine and the Dodgers move downtown. Just a hunch. Hopefully Frank McCourt is never involved directly/indirectly with the Raiders…but let’s not get too ahead of ourselves.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
FOR THE RAIDERNATION NEW ARK :
BRING – 12 lineback
-12 pass rusher 5sec or less
-12 front Def line 6-6 or bigger 300 lbs – jumping hand up.
-10 TE big really big -Casper Style
Bring- 12 Qb can throw all day – Stabler -Brady style
One Al Saunder -coach Of
-12 Jerry Rice type Biletnikof receiver
PLEASE CLOSE THE ARK -REGGIE, ALLEN AND MARK.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
WISH I HAD MADDEN AND GRUDEN BACK!
CAN I RUB THE LAMP NOW?
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I want to throw on 1rst downs and score TOUCHDOWNS on
THE RED ZONE on my first drive.
I don’t want a 3 pt FIELD GOAL like KNAPP wants
I WANT QUATERBACKS EATING DIRT AND GIRLS IN MINI SKIRTS.
I WANT 2 BLITZES NOT ONE
I WANT A COACH THAT BIT$HES IN THE SIDE LINES AND YELLS AT THE OFFICIALS!
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
We don’t want to be losing in the first 5 minutes but winning in the first 5 minutes with a Touchdown 7-0 not a field goal.
I want to Win 45-13 not 24-23
We want be whippin 58-17 not getting whip 17-58
I want to score first 1rst
We want to block their passes on the line with our arms up
Not getting our passes block and 3 and out
I want them to look like the CAT ATE THE CANARY IN THEIR PRESS CONFERENCE NOT –ALLEN
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
I don’t want ESPN talking about other teams and not even mentioning the RAIDERS
We don’t want to hear we are BAD AND AWFUL but that we
Are Good and Improved.
I don’t want to see a newspaper sport page and have to use it
for a DOG BOWL PLACE MAT. Not rated in many catagories
Don’t want to hear the players are Out or Hurt or the word KNEE or ACL OR CONCUSIONS!
And surely don’t want to hear WE ARE NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME YET FROM —COACH ALLEN.
HIDE IN THE CLOSET OR PUT A BAG OVER YOUR HEAD!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
C’ MON MAN Start firing clean house.
Give us a CHRISTMAS PRESENT and let the news clear the wire.
Make ESPN and the NFL TREMBLE LIKE AL USED TO DO!
Give me a 10.0 Quake that will make the Sport page shake.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Raiders need to open a new class-the khttp-KNOW HOW TO
TACKLE PROPERLY WITHOUT RELEASING UNTIL PLAYER TURNS
BLUE!