McFadden, Goodson and Seymour not playing Sunday
By Steve Corkran
Friday, November 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders will be without Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour for the third straight game.
All three missed practice Friday before being declared out for Sunday’s game against the Cincinnati Bengals game by coach Dennis Allen.
“They made progress this week,” Allen said, “but they’re not ready to go yet.”
That means regular fullback Marcel Reece will start at running back for the third straight game, with second-year player Taiwan Jones and rookie Jeremy Stewart the backups once again.
Reece is fresh from a game in which he amassed 193 yards rushing and receiving. He said he’s just trying to hold down the fort until the other backs return.
“We have so many playmakers on this team that no one’s that guy,” Reece said. “Darren McFadden’s the bell cow for this team and will be the bell cow for this team. Right now we’re kind of playing running back by committee. When it really comes down to it, you’re just trying to make plays the way you’re supposed to make plays.”
On a positive note, Goodson said he finally is out of the protective boot that he spent more than two weeks in while recovering from a high-ankle sprain. He and McFadden got hurt against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4.
Goodson said he is disappointed that he missed out on the opportunity to be the lead back.
“You see McFadden go down, and I was the next guy in line,” Goodson said. “You kind of want to get out there and show everybody what you can do, and then I go down with an ankle. The exact same injury (as McFadden), the exact same game.”
Goodson said he is making progress, though he doesn’t have a timeframe for his return.
Desmond Bryant will start in place of Seymour.
– Niners linebacker Aldon Smith recorded 5 ½ sacks Monday night against the Chicago Bears. That total is half what the Raiders have through 10 games and almost twice that of Seymour’s team-high three.
Allen said part of the paltry sack total owes to the Raiders lacking a speed-rusher like Smith. The other factor is the inconsistency of the linebackers and defensive backs in pass coverage.
“We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush,” Allen said. “Those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles, and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
Defensive lineman Dave Tollefson said the sacks will come as long as he and his defensive mates keep working hard and play within the context of the scheme.
“I played on (New York Giants) teams that got a load of sacks, and it was a group effort,” Tollefson said. “You got to keep pounding that rock. You got to just keep working, keep working and that wall will break down.”
– Like most teams, the Raiders goal is to feature a balanced offensive attack. Injuries and situations in games oftentimes dictate otherwise.
Given that, the Raiders are the most lopsided offense through 10 games, with 66.1 percent of their plays being passes.
By comparison, the Texans and 49ers are the most-balanced teams in the league, right about 50 percent pass and 50 percent pass.
Allen said it’s “extremely important” for the Raiders to have a balanced offensive attack.
“When you throw the football that many times, eventually bad things happen,” Allen said. “We have to have balance, we have to be able to run the football, we have to make teams play us honestly.”
However, being balanced doesn’t always equate to success. The Redskins (4-6) and Chiefs (1-9) are the third- and fourth-most-balanced teams, yet they are long-shots to make the playoffs..
– Bengals fans hoping to get a look at Carson Palmer, the quarterback that guided their team from 2004-10, won’t be able to do so if they live in the Cincinnati area. The game is blacked out locally.
Palmer was the Bengals first-round pick in 2003 (No. 1 overall). He spent his rookie season learning under Jon Kitna and didn’t play. He assumed the starting spot in 2004 and held on to that job for seven seasons.
The Raiders traded a 2012 first-round pick and a ’13 second-rounder to get Palmer from the Bengals last season. Sunday marks Palmer’s first game against his former team, in the stadium that he called home for so long.
– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck) said he’s “ready to roll” after missing last Sunday’s game. That snapped a streak of 57 straight starts for Branch.
Jones (ankle) and rookie defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) are questionable.
– Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has at least one touchdown in the past nine games. Overall, he has 64 receptions for 911 yards and 10 touchdowns in 10 games.
It’s not difficult to make a strong case for Green being the most-dangerous receiver the Raiders have faced all season.
“A.J. Green is having a great year,” strong safety Tyvon Branch said. “So we got to stop the ball from going on top. Keep everything in front of us and tackle.”
Cornerback Michael Huff will cover Green whenever he is lined up on the right side. Allen said the Raiders won’t use Huff or Ron Bartell to shadow Green.
Huff calls Green “an animal” and a better overall receiver than the Falcons Julio Jones, who Huff covered earlier this season.
“He makes more plays, probably plays the deep ball better,” Huff said. “You can throw it up to him, he just goes up and gets it, just makes plays. He’s better than Julio, to me. Not as fast as Julio as far as long speed, but he can still run.”
– Rookie offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom will see some more playing time Sunday, Allen said. Just don’t plan on Bergstrom catching a pass anytime soon, even though he oftentimes has been used as an extra offensive lineman.
When that happens, the referee is compelled to announce that “No. 70 has reported as an eligible receiver.”
“Don’t read too much into that,” said Bergstrom, who last caught a pass in high school. “I know I’m eligible, but that’s like saying a really ugly guy is an eligible bachelor. It doesn’t mean a whole lot.”
– Wide receiver Denarius Moore said he shares the blame for not being on the same page as Palmer in recent games, even though Palmer tries to take the lion’s share of the blame.
“We sat down and talked about what we need to do and what we need to get better on,” Moore said. “All the blame is not on him. Lately there’s been times where I was wide open dropped a couple of passes and times where I didn’t get off a release, or my timing was off a little bit.
“All the (blame) is not on him. It’s just watching film, seeing what the DB is going to do, what coverages we might get and what releases might work for us.”
Palmer completed only one of seven throws to Moore against the Saints. Against the Buccaneers a late pass from Palmer was intercepted, with Moore breaking toward the middle of the field, away from the ball.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Eastoaklandraider you’re just stupid and you get exposed all the times so don’t bother replying back , yes good coaching matters cuz sometimes players are just underachieving but do you really think there are players on D side who can pass rush better but our coaching just isn’t getting it out of them?
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I’m stupid LOL but your considered the blog village idiot by many.
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Like seriously you don’t even fact check sh1t , you said 2002 D was average but it was ranked # 6 overall , # 3 Against the run, is that average? I don’t think so , just goes to show that you know nothing about football , just like to talk sh1t out of your ass
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
We all know Mcfadden and Seymour are done for the year, put them on IR and give their roster spot to one of the practice squad guys
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Blog Brahs, Nerds & Assorted Goobers
During this season of giving and thanks, wanna throw a huge Beeeech Diggity-style shout out to the baddest blog posse on the internet -
The PM Party Patrol
Homies (y’all know who you are – you’re probably getting a dope BJ right now), what a successful year full of great memories
We’ve beaten KrappyRat to a pulp, spanked my minions all across the blog and gotten high on mad dope reefer while 69ing hella wasted shorties
Let’s enjoy more beatdowns / glorious smackdowns before the year is up, then reload for 2013
Unfortunately, however, I just reloaded a mega duece in my BVDs
GUESS THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Cincy at 5-5 with a 2 game winning streak. Blowouts of the Giants and Chiefs and they can’t sell-out?
What’s up with that? Is the ownership there as bad as Palmer suggested?
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Its really simple but I see you like to complicate things. Indy’s D was never great but because of Manning and his O they were able to overcome their D woes, same can be said of the Rams greatest show on turf, same with NE the past few years.simple.
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I don’t like to complicate things and lets begin with this first, with Hue we were not going to be anywhere near the level of Manning O’s and Rams “greatest show on turf” not with 40% of Mcfadden, not with this young receiving corp with no #1 receiver and 2nd our D was the worst of all time so unless Hue managed to get our O better than both of those teams , (which has no chance with this group) , then we might have had won those games , Comprehend ? nO?
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Nobody said we were gonna be any one of those teams Mcdummy20 but Hue had us on that path and the O would be pretty explosive under Hue this year imo just based on his past and with CP3 in his O for a whole season, sky WAS the limit.
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We were ranked #16 last year at 22PPG , that might have jumped up to #12 with around 24.5 PPG , sorry SKY isn’t the limit , you act like we got HOF’s all over that side LMAO
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Ahhh…a bad coaches crutch is always the lack of execution excuse. lol
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BAD Coaches or maybe they’re coaching the bad talent? not like any coach would come out and say oh our team just lacks talent , no coach would say that
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Like seriously you don’t even fact check sh1t , you said 2002 D was average but it was ranked # 6 overall , # 3 Against the run, is that average? I don’t think so , just goes to show that you know nothing about football , just like to talk sh1t out of your ass
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Like I said Mcdummy20 they were avg, only reason they were ranked that high was because they were hardly on the field and we still managed to have a few nail bitters that season, you continue to show your lack of knowledge stats can be misguiding sometimes Mcdummy20, like the year we were #1 against the pass but dead last against the run.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/23/ray-anderson-league-will-look-at-low-blocks-this-offseason/
there goes the zone blocking system…
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
“Allen will shed some light on what he plans to do with the vacancy on the 53-man roster …”
My guess: leave it unfilled as long as possible and then bring someone uo from the practice squad only if they have to fill it. Save a few bucks for the company because team leadership has packed it in on this season and the Raiders are now run strictly as a moneymaking business and no longer as the life’s dream of a fanatical man.
Congratulations, Raiders fans, on having a “real, professional, modern organization” just like the other 31. The losing and complete lack of passion may suk, but at least you’ll have the media conformists there to stroke you and reassure you that things are finally being done “the right way” in Raiderland.
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Great post.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
lol….yeah lets save some monet by not having a full roster…that will prove we are modern…
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Raiders coaches, please keep Reece as our starting tailback & trade McFadden!!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Cincy at 5-5 with a 2 game winning streak. Blowouts of the Giants and Chiefs and they can’t sell-out?
What’s up with that? Is the ownership there as bad as Palmer suggested?
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The Bengals have been a mess for years. They are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Like seriously you don’t even fact check sh1t , you said 2002 D was average but it was ranked # 6 overall , # 3 Against the run, is that average? I don’t think so , just goes to show that you know nothing about football , just like to talk sh1t out of your ass
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Like I said Mcdummy20 they were avg, only reason they were ranked that high was because they were hardly on the field and we still managed to have a few nail bitters that season, you continue to show your lack of knowledge stats can be misguiding sometimes Mcdummy20, like the year we were #1 against the pass but dead last against the run.
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EastoaklandhospitalmentalPatient , you keep getting exposed , 02 D was #6 in PPG allowed , even with great O , how can that be misleading? we had great D that year , didn’t have anything to do with the O
06Raider #1 pass D ranking is misleading, because we had Bed and breakfast running the O and we barely scored, so all the other teams did was run the ball down our throats which we were 25th against , and killed the clock
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Ahhh…a bad coaches crutch is always the lack of execution excuse. lol
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A GOOD coach would at least find a way to not make it seem so bad. Though I still believe that there’s a fine line between coaching and execution. Spaghetti sauce will always taste bitter when it’s made with rotten tomatoes.
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Can we get to the offseason already!
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
mctrolling all day long…
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
As bad as things look, I like our D’s chances against the Cincy O. Like Matt Ryan before him, nothing about Andy Dalton scares me. Ryan had otherworldly weapons at every position. Dalton’s options are more limited, although AJ Green may be the best receiver in the NFL. I think our coaches can devise a plan to take him away.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Ahhh…a bad coaches crutch is always the lack of execution excuse. lol
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BAD Coaches or maybe they’re coaching the bad talent? not like any coach would come out and say oh our team just lacks talent , no coach would say that
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– Allen has no issue with the schemes used by first-year defensive coordinator Jason Tarver. It’s on the players to do their part on a more consistent basis.
“It’s been the same the whole year,” Allen said, as far as his level of involvement in the defense. “We haven’t changed anything as far as how we call the games. I’ve been pleased with the play-calling, and we’ve just got to do a better job overall of getting the right execution.”
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said. “Our guys can rush the passer, and we’ve just got to work together and understand how to work together as a four-man rush.”
“It’s a combination of pass rush and pass coverage,” Allen said. “We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush, and those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
Sounds to me he did exactly that, lmfao!
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
This is the same team that finished 1-4 down the stretch last year.
I fail to see the surprise to some of you that we STILL suck.
So this new group of people haven’t been able to fix that OLD MESS. It’s funny to hear that it’s them who caused this mess.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
This is the same team that finished 1-4 down the stretch last year.
I fail to see the surprise to some of you that we STILL suck.
So this new group of people haven’t been able to fix that OLD MESS. It’s funny to hear that it’s them who caused this mess.
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Thank you , we need more sane people like u in here, this blog has become a mess with Eastoaklandidiot and althetroll and others
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Does anyone besides me, realize we went straight to the SB after Jon Gruden left? Why does everyone pine after Gruden who couldn’t get us there? The famous tuck rule game happened because he coached way too conservatively. We should’ve blew the Pat’s off their own field but he refused to attack them downfield where they were vulnerable. We had a better team and we were hot he should’ve gone for it on 4and1 as well. But he kept them in the game not going for their jugular and as a result that one call determined the game.
I appreciate what he did in terms of discipline and org. and we needed that desparately but I would never want him back here just for the fact I can’t stand his offense.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
So, should Reggie send a team memo at the end of the season to at least the D and tell them all that they are no longer needed and start from scratch? What would the cap hit be for a move like that?
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
The question is simply going to be will our Safeties continue to blow their assignments this weekend.
Blown assignments by Branch and Gio = a big day for Dalton.
Can the LBs get back in their drops and not allow 100% of the passes thrown their way to be completed?
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
– Allen has no issue with the schemes used by first-year defensive coordinator Jason Tarver. It’s on the players to do their part on a more consistent basis.
“It’s been the same the whole year,” Allen said, as far as his level of involvement in the defense. “We haven’t changed anything as far as how we call the games. I’ve been pleased with the play-calling, and we’ve just got to do a better job overall of getting the right execution.”
“I don’t think we have the great speed rusher coming off the edge, like a lot of people do,” Allen said. “Our guys can rush the passer, and we’ve just got to work together and understand how to work together as a four-man rush.”
“It’s a combination of pass rush and pass coverage,” Allen said. “We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush, and those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
Sounds to me he did exactly that, lmfao!
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He didn’t say that we lack talent, he’s just telling the reporters what our players need to do , he’s not saying we have no hope cuz we got no good player on the roster
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
POST-19,AGREE JHILL.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Can we get to the offseason already!
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I’m looking forward to the off season. It’s going to be a lot more interesting than these games we’ve been watching.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Does anyone besides me, realize we went straight to the SB after Jon Gruden left? Why does everyone pine after Gruden who couldn’t get us there? The famous tuck rule game happened because he coached way too conservatively. We should’ve blew the Pat’s off their own field but he refused to attack them downfield where they were vulnerable. We had a better team and we were hot he should’ve gone for it on 4and1 as well. But he kept them in the game not going for their jugular and as a result that one call determined the game.
I appreciate what he did in terms of discipline and org. and we needed that desparately but I would never want him back here just for the fact I can’t stand his offense.
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Thank you and plus those teams were loaded with talent
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Blaming Reggie for the Raider’s problems is like blaming 0bama for the terrible economy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
EastOak is my guy.
You guys need to stop with all this troll business.
Why does everyone have to agree?
Imagine how boring this place would be, lol.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Callahan was the one who opened up the offense.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
I’m looking forward to off-season , FA and Draft , we need to hit with our FA signings and draft picks
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Jhill, when are you guys gona quit man. We had a QB who just came off the couch and a ton of injuries. Yes we still should’ve won the last game IMO but that defense was a shambles. These guys had all offseason and preseason same QB to install their own program Hue had none of those advantages and he still won 8 games when this team wins 8 games let me know.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Priest,
Chuck on the sidelines = sellouts.
A LOT of fans love that guy.
I hated that dink and dunk too, but what else could he do with a noodle armed QB and 2 old arsse WRs??
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
EastOak is my guy.
You guys need to stop with all this troll business.
Why does everyone have to agree?
Imagine how boring this place would be, lol.
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I’m not calling him a troll, it’s just hard to talk with him about some topics because he just starts calling others childish names who ever disagrees with him
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Any minute this waaaay stacked C-level porn star is going to show up at my front door dressed as Ellen Griswold from Christmas Vacation
ahhhhh yeah, you KNOW there’s a dope negligee on under that fuzzy sweater
Probably let her seduce the Lawg with some light break dancing, then rub down the Lawg with essential oils and Aloe Vera
Only then will I allow the Lawg the freedom to drop a jizz-a-load on her booblies
Seriously, when you’re this good, you just can’t fake the funk
TAKIN IT 2 THE STREETZ
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Jhill, when are you guys gona quit man. We had a QB who just came off the couch and a ton of injuries. Yes we still should’ve won the last game IMO but that defense was a shambles. These guys had all offseason and preseason same QB to install their own program Hue had none of those advantages and he still won 8 games when this team wins 8 games let me know.
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The point is he still lost games when his teams needed to win them the most, could it be that he finally faced good competition down the road or other teams were playing for coaches and they outplayed his team? D was in shambles and is still in Shambles (prolly gotten worse) nothing has changed
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I haven’t said a thing about Hue, Priest.
This is not about him.
I’ve said Branch and Gio have stunk last year, and it’s still the case. Our CB situation is a mess just like it was last year. Wimbley wasn’t that damn good, imo. Take out the SD game against a 3rd string guy and he did nothing.
This is the same sorry arsse defense we had last year. Unable to stop Det or SD giving up MASSIVE #s.
I’ll let you guys fight over Hue vs Knapp. We ain’t doin NATHAN until we tighten this D up!
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Btw, Jon Gruden has said he is interested in learning the option offense. If he were to take a college job he could do that. But if he were to return to Oakland, he would have a QB who could allow him to implement an option package
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
2002 Raiders were ranked 11th not 6th Mcdummy and they were 23rd against the pass and 3rd agaist the run hmmmm why is that? is that because the O was so good they got big leads and teams had to abandoned the run and pass it more? Dam Mcfaggen20 you are slow, like I said the 2002 D was avg just benefited from a great O, just like Rams greatest show on turf and Indy’s Payton Mannings O’s. get a clue about football Mcdummy20.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
To steal some of Charlie’s propaganda ….
Our Oline and DLines were MUCH better when we last saw the SB, Priest.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I haven’t said a thing about Hue, Priest.
This is not about him.
I’ve said Branch and Gio have stunk last year, and it’s still the case. Our CB situation is a mess just like it was last year. Wimbley wasn’t that damn good, imo. Take out the SD game against a 3rd string guy and he did nothing.
This is the same sorry arsse defense we had last year. Unable to stop Det or SD giving up MASSIVE #s.
I’ll let you guys fight over Hue vs Knapp. We ain’t doin NATHAN until we tighten this D up!
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Thank you again, you get it
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
FA signings aren’t going to really help us.
RARELY find teams letting good players go.
Hope we don’t spend a bunch of $ on FAs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Marc Trestman would be someone worth hiring again.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Comes off contract from the Alouettes completion of this season.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Wikipedia…
NFL
Trestman moved to the National Football League and coached the running backs with the Minnesota Vikings in 1985 and 1986. He became quarterbacks coach with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1987 then held the same position with the Cleveland Browns in 1988. In Cleveland he again coached Kosar and the team finished 10–6 and made the playoffs. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in 1989. That year Kosar passed for 3,533 yards and 18 TDs, wide receiver Webster Slaughter had a franchise record 1,236 receiving yards, and the Browns made it to the AFC Championship game.
In 1990, Trestman returned to Minnesota as quarterbacks coach for the Vikings. He spent two years there and then left coaching for three years.
He returned to the NFL in 1995 as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator with San Francisco, where he served in that capacity through 1996. The first year he was there the 49ers led the NFL with 457 points scored, 644 pass attempts and 4,779 passing yards.
Trestman joined the Detroit Lions as quarterbacks coach in 1997. That year Lion’s quarterback Scott Mitchell passed for 3,484 yards, second most in team history.
In 1998 he was with the Arizona Cardinals as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. That year quarterback Jake Plummer threw for 3,737 yards, and the Cardinals made the playoffs for the first time since 1982 and won their first post season game in 51 years.
He next went to the Oakland Raiders in 2001 as the quarterbacks coach. In 2002 he was promoted to offensive coordinator and the Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7 per game. Under Trestman’s guidance, Raiders QB Rich Gannon won the 2002 NFL MVP award as the Raiders reached Super Bowl XXXVII, losing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
EastOak is my guy.
You guys need to stop with all this troll business.
Why does everyone have to agree?
Imagine how boring this place would be, lol.
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I’m not calling him a troll, it’s just hard to talk with him about some topics because he just starts calling others childish names who ever disagrees with him
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Noy others just You Mcfaggen.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
EastOak is my guy.
You guys need to stop with all this troll business.
Why does everyone have to agree?
Imagine how boring this place would be, lol.
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I’m not calling him a troll, it’s just hard to talk with him about some topics because he just starts calling others childish names who ever disagrees with him
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Not others just You Mcfaggen.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
2002 Raiders were ranked 11th not 6th Mcdummy and they were 23rd against the pass and 3rd agaist the run hmmmm why is that? is that because the O was so good they got big leads and teams had to abandoned the run and pass it more? Dam Mcfaggen20 you are slow, like I said the 2002 D was avg just benefited from a great O, just like Rams greatest show on turf and Indy’s Payton Mannings O’s. get a clue about football Mcdummy20.
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You are so slow man, 6th in PPG allowed , that’s all D , doesn’t matter if the O was good or bad, and btw when teams are passing more the game is prolonged because you are getting more yards in a hurry, so more time is left on the board, which makes the D ranking even more impressive
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Jhill you may not remember this but he had Jerry Porter and James Jett. In fact James jett caught the only TD pass in teh Tuck Rule game. On top of that Callahan and Trestman led the league in offense and gannin won MVP with thant noodle arm because Trestman pushed him and the offense ot perform. Gruden did NONE OF THAT!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
You are good fan Eastoaklandraider , Please get some help, you’re entering Mistics territory, I would hate to see a true Raider fan go in that path
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Callahna used Charlie Garner as a offensive weapon out of the backfield but Gruden used him to checkdown to. Our offense was twice as explosive with the same players only one year removed………it wasn’t even close that offense was as explosive as Hue’s was.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
The guy on Twitter pretending (?) to be Mark Davis has made my day. He is quite funny. Take a peak.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
2002 Raiders were ranked 11th not 6th Mcdummy and they were 23rd against the pass and 3rd agaist the run hmmmm why is that? is that because the O was so good they got big leads and teams had to abandoned the run and pass it more? Dam Mcfaggen20 you are slow, like I said the 2002 D was avg just benefited from a great O, just like Rams greatest show on turf and Indy’s Payton Mannings O’s. get a clue about football Mcdummy20.
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You are so slow man, 6th in PPG allowed , that’s all D , doesn’t matter if the O was good or bad, and btw when teams are passing more the game is prolonged because you are getting more yards in a hurry, so more time is left on the board, which makes the D ranking even more impressive
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Dude you are just plain dumb, talking football with you is like talking football with a 5 year old, I’m done class is over and you’ve been expelled. I wont bother responding to your dumb post anymore except to say how dumb you sound.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Im hearing from credible sources that Als kid is going to do whatever it takes to bring Jon Gruden back…its a long shot but Im hearing he now regrets very much so hiring Reggie without interviewing others, and only going on what a few told him,…and Reggie allowing a rookie HC to hire his own staff is maybe the dumbest thing ever done in pro sports,…Als kid now sees the light,…he knows all too well what would happen if Gruden returned,…a bay area axplosion…Reggie and this regime need to go, and Gruden and whomever he wants to be his GM needs to be brought in,..hopefully its Bruce Allen,…once again, Iv educated you all,..but not Priest, hes a lost cause, just like Terrel Pryor is.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
2002 Raiders were ranked 11th not 6th Mcdummy and they were 23rd against the pass and 3rd agaist the run hmmmm why is that? is that because the O was so good they got big leads and teams had to abandoned the run and pass it more? Dam Mcfaggen20 you are slow, like I said the 2002 D was avg just benefited from a great O, just like Rams greatest show on turf and Indy’s Payton Mannings O’s. get a clue about football Mcdummy20.
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You are so slow man, 6th in PPG allowed , that’s all D , doesn’t matter if the O was good or bad, and btw when teams are passing more the game is prolonged because you are getting more yards in a hurry, so more time is left on the board, which makes the D ranking even more impressive
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Dude you are just plain dumb, talking football with you is like talking football with a 5 year old, I’m done class is over and you’ve been expelled. I wont bother responding to your dumb post anymore except to say how dumb you sound.
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Exposed man, your stupid theory that better O’s improve D’s doesn’t hold true ,it may in some cases but not all , Baltimore is always a top D , they were never known for O till this year, Pitts is always top 5 D , they only rank high in Offensive rankings once every 3 or 4 years, last year of the top 10 D teams in terms of ppg allowed only 2 of them were ranked in top 10 in terms of PPG, so get your sh1t outta here some where else, this D isn’t going to stop anyone whether they had 15 mins rest of just 1 minute, as proven by always allowing the other team to score on their first possession in second half
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Oh and by the way, Brien told me today more great news,..he has solid east bay sources that assure him of a new stadium deal real close to being announced,..a new stadium on the current site,…so its all coming together,…I have no prob whatsoever going 3-13,…that way I know for sure Als kid will get rid of stupid Reggie and his staff of retards.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Im hearing from credible sources
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what are these credible sources you speak of JON.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Oh and by the way, Brien told me today more great news,..he has solid east bay sources that assure him of a new stadium deal real close to being announced,..a new stadium on the current site,…so its all coming together,…I have no prob whatsoever going 3-13,…that way I know for sure Als kid will get rid of stupid Reggie and his staff of retards.
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If b said it, then it’s gold in my book.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
JON Gruden ain’t coming back here put down the pipe dream , he’s not coming to a rebuilding team , more likely destinations are Eagles and other teams who have more talent but are greatly underachieving, just like the 98 team that was loaded with talent
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Im hearing from credible sources
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what are these credible sources you speak of JON.
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Remember that this is the same guy who just a week or two ago told us how Brien ran into somebody-or-other who’d spoken with Mark in a hotel lobby and 100% CONFIRMED that we were moving to LA. So I’d take it all with a boulder-sized grain of salt.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Im hearing from credible sources
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what are these credible sources you speak of JON.
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Remember that this is the same guy who just a week or two ago told us how Brien ran into somebody-or-other who’d spoken with Mark in a hotel lobby and 100% CONFIRMED that we were moving to LA. So I’d take it all with a boulder-sized grain of salt.
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Same guy who was worshipping the Whiners in last couple of games
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
JON Gruden ain’t coming back here put down the pipe dream , he’s not coming to a rebuilding team , more likely destinations are Eagles and other teams who have more talent but are greatly underachieving, just like the 98 team that was loaded with talent
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Source?
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
JON Gruden ain’t coming back here put down the pipe dream , he’s not coming to a rebuilding team , more likely destinations are Eagles and other teams who have more talent but are greatly underachieving, just like the 98 team that was loaded with talent
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Source?
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He loves veteran teams , does not like to groom young players as evidenced by his Oakland stay , where the only noteworthy guy he drafted was Seabass, same with TB years, that’s the last guy Reg wants to hire if he wants to get this team out of the gutter
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Brien and I are at every game, you guys are shut ins that havent a clue. If you dont change your ways you will end up like Kell,..an old angry man in his 60`s who gets drunk and hangs in a blog making a fool of himself.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Maybe Reggie is gone too?
He has made more mistakes then his has made sound decisions. Alot more mistakes.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Jon Gruden would want to come back because he considers himself a Raider,…loves Amy and Mark,…loves hangin at Rickys…loves living in BlackHawk,…and the fact that Al is gone doesnt hurt either. Ya dig?
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Maybe Reggie is gone too?
He has made more mistakes then his has made sound decisions. Alot more mistakes.
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Reggie and DA will both be here into the foreseeable future. Relax.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Jon returning of course isnt a for sure deal, but I was told by a solid source its being investigated,..and initiated by Mark and Marks mom, whom Jon loves,…Jons a Raider,..when he lit that torch last Sunday he had his Raider gear on and we gave him a standing O that went on a long time,…Jon is a Raider,..remember that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Same old defense. Cant tackle, cant stop the run, cant pass defend anywhere on the field.
Other teams run the ball when they want where they want. Opposing teams pass the ball where they want when they want, short, long, middle and no matter what they are able to come alive in the fourth quarter and destroy the Raiders.
We win one now and then but they are seldom real good wins against good teams.
The D looked promising early on but they fell completely apart as soon as other teams warmed up their game.
I believe Reggie knows he has to dismantle everything and bring in entirely new players which he is doing. DA will become one of the games best coaches and we will get back to the playoffs soon
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Duck,..you probably also thought Oregon would crush the Cardinal…shows what you know. Im at every game, you arent. So there. Brien and I know more then all of you put together.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Gruden > Reg & DA
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Bob whats the best way to get off those dam norcs?
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 is just stealing all my material from several articles back.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Duck,..you probably also thought Oregon would crush the Cardinal…shows what you know. Im at every game, you arent. So there. Brien and I know more then all of you put together.
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Not True
I won a bet with Brien last year concerning the Raiders, but didn’t ask him to live up to the conditions because I like his input.
Where has he been anyway?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
GG nobodys ever stols a thing from you,..youre just a d-bag on this blog that gets laughed at.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
E,..Briens doing great,..talked to him today,..see him at every game.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
My source swears Gruden is going to Nashville.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Timestamp proves it
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
GG,…nobody here cares about you or any time stamp,..all you are good for is a laugh,..and Im not the only one laughing at you.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
REGGIE LOVES his draft picks and believes in developing teams from within , Gruden loves veteran players , and does not like playing young players, so that will never happen just to let you know JONGRUDEN2013 = AMY= TROLL
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
You wanna take credit for others’ ideas and efforts, I understand, because you lack the propensity to come up with stuff yourself
I’m usually very nice to all and dont resort to personal insult games, but this can be fun
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Everyone is laughing at you JONGRUDEN2013 troll
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Have a good weekend nation
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
GG brings the ideas and reasons, JG2013 parrots it. Not realizing that by parroting it means he is acknowledging GG is a stud blogger, and tipping his hat at GG’s acumen.
Thanks JG2013. Imitation is flattery
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Brien and I are at every game, you guys are shut ins that havent a clue. If you dont change your ways you will end up like Kell,..an old angry man in his 60`s who gets drunk and hangs in a blog making a fool of himself.
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I have hooked up and hit the Hennessy with B at more than one Raider game, you not so much.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Marks inner fire may come alive. Power is a powerful thing (duh) It goes to your head and all of a sudden you personally feel responsible for the team and the players, even their families. You want to win for more reasons then just being the best team.
You want to bend bob craft over with a nightstick and that pecker look alike from NY really gets under your skin. So all f a sudden you will do anything to win and that includes firing anyone that dare give you less then 8 wins and keep firing until you find someone that does
That’s the only way I see MD firing REG or DA
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Drexl, thats because Iv never invited you to my tailgate,..nor will I.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
No advice on the norcs?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Brien quit Henny,..he now drinks clear Remy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Qud
I could not find mark on twitter. Got a link?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Plunk my advice is dont quit them…why you wanna quit?…enjoy them man.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Drexl, thats because Iv never invited you to my tailgate,..nor will I.
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Now I’m hurt, crying actually.
As if I give a fug about being invited to “your” Oakland Raider tailgate. Give your neck a rest.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Ask Brien about my tailgates,..you would want to be invited. Maybe next year fool.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Marks inner fire may come alive. Power is a powerful thing (duh) It goes to your head and all of a sudden you personally feel responsible for the team and the players, even their families. You want to win for more reasons then just being the best team.
You want to bend bob craft over with a nightstick and that pecker look alike from NY really gets under your skin. So all f a sudden you will do anything to win and that includes firing anyone that dare give you less then 8 wins and keep firing until you find someone that does
That’s the only way I see MD firing REG or DA
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Good post because you mention something at the start there that is very well observed, and intelligent.
Mark was raw coming in as owner end of last season. It was just inheriting something that didn’t have your handprint on it. But Mark directly hired and is responsible for firing Hue and hiring Reggie and all that followed beneath it. So he is finally starting to feel like the product is a direct reflection on himself, his hand print on it, and wanting to be a success not a failure, it’s finally becoming literally personal to him, the football side of things where before he didn’t care when he was “just Al’s son” or “just Al’s son babysitting the franchise upon the death of his father”
Given your well observed first part of your post, I would actually say your concluding argument would be more likely that he tries to make amends for the mistake he made, which he acknowledged in his interview.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
He loves veteran teams , does not like to groom young players as evidenced by his Oakland stay , where the only noteworthy guy he drafted was Seabass, same with TB years, that’s the last guy Reg wants to hire if he wants to get this team out of the gutter
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1. I don’t think Gruden will ever return to coaching because he’s too much like Madden… the job will kill him.
2. If he does, it will be a team that needs a head hunter. A veteran team that has all the pieces in place but needs a kick in the ass. Like TB when he went.
Oakland is the complete opposite (at least defensively) so we agree… but that said, I do think Gruden would love coaching CP, and McF.
It would be pretty much like Gannon and Garner. He’d need a new Brown and Rice though.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
FA signings aren’t going to really help us.
RARELY find teams letting good players go.
Hope we don’t spend a bunch of $ on FAs.
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UNLESS it’s simply a money issue.
To get the good ones though you’ve got to spend the money.
Sometimes guys will come at affordable price simply becuase they want to play for a particular team.
Ala Reggie White for instance.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_22049410/oakland-raiders-prepare-see-former-coach-hue-jackson
Reading between the lines you can tell the players didn’t like seeing Hue go.
What a waste.
Way to go Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie. Ugh!
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Duck,..you probably also thought Oregon would crush the Cardinal…shows what you know. Im at every game, you arent. So there. Brien and I know more then all of you put together.
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So how does your claim to be at every game validate your saying something is 100% certain one week, then saying something completely opposite the next week?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Ask Brien about my tailgates,..you would want to be invited. Maybe next year fool.
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Where are you guys at?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Am i missing something?
What ‘mistake’ did Mark admit to making?
Please help.
Thanks.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
68.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Jon returning of course isnt a for sure deal, but I was told by a solid source its being investigated,..and initiated by Mark and Marks mom, whom Jon loves,…Jons a Raider,..when he lit that torch last Sunday he had his Raider gear on and we gave him a standing O that went on a long time,…Jon is a Raider,..remember that.
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For the sake of the future of the franchise….lets hope Carol and Mark do whatever they can to bring Jon Gruden back here as head coach. Then the team and organization will be brought back to glory.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Who the fck is Brien? LOL
Does he own a percentage of the Raiders?
Sorry, I always read about his name and how he supposedly has all the inside scoops and insight to the Raiders everyday operations and decisions…just because he attends all the games? lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I am as tired as you guys of having to explain to family and friends at the Holidays why I still love the Raiders.(I am not from the Bay area).
Please remember that this is not a simple GM/Head coaching change we are embarking on.
This a complete cultural make over from top to bottom including having new scouts that know how to use computers.
It will not happen in less than 3 years.
The free agent path is a mine field which has contributed to the demise of this franchise. Seymour is a modern day Sapp. Yes we have had some free agent success when Mr Davis was on his game. (Woodson, Romo, Rice, Gannon). Reggie inherited Kelly, Seymour, Wimbley and Routt. Disastrous.
I am afraid we have to build through the draft (The lines are our number one priorty) and gut it out.
By the way, though it is not the pros, what year is Brian Kelly in at ND? (3).
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
For the sake of the future of the franchise….lets hope Carol and Mark do whatever they can to bring Jon Gruden back here as head coach. Then the team and organization will be brought back to glory.
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Once again, please name the last NFL head coach who returned to a former team and experienced success.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Am i missing something?
What ‘mistake’ did Mark admit to making?
Please help.
Thanks.
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Read or watch his interview, he says he made a mistake. That can be read between the lines of, ie, firing hue.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
#104 Joe Gibbs.
He took a franchise that hadn’t experienced post-season since his previous departure, and brought them to two playoff seasons in three seasons.
Would say that’s ’successful’.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
First thing Jon should do is cut DMC,…that female dog is pure cancer,..dont even get a 6th rounder for him,..get nothing, thats what shes worth.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Not to want to make you throw up but Seymour’s deal was $30 million over two years with $22.5 guaranteed.
I think it ends this year.
The guy does not even practice.
He may be a nice father and husband but he can not compete in the NFL. PATHETIC.
Another reason why Reggie is hamstrung this year and why this is not a one year fix.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
GG,
Thanks man. I must’ve missed that part.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
DMC can be had for a 2nd Rounder. Dallas or Jets would give that up for him.
They are desperate and they love making splash type moves.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
108.Charlie Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Not to want to make you throw up but Seymour’s deal was $30 million over two years with $22.5 guaranteed.
I think it ends this year.
The guy does not even practice.
He may be a nice father and husband but he can not compete in the NFL. PATHETIC.
Another reason why Reggie is hamstrung this year and why this is not a one year fix.
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It does end after this year. Seymour is gone at seasons end and maybe even Kelley, McClain and Huff.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Miami,
Brien is a very passionate Oakland sports fan. I think he goes to alot of A’s games along with all the Raider games, and if i’m not mistaken i think he’s related to one of the Raiders…or former Raider…?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
GG Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Am i missing something?
What ‘mistake’ did Mark admit to making?
Please help.
Thanks.
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Read or watch his interview, he says he made a mistake. That can be read between the lines of, ie, firing hue
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LMAO.
You can’t be serious?
Marks DAD hired Hue. As soon as Al died everyone saw the noticeable change in Hue. and none of it good.
Hell, Hue had two different players call him a liar, outright. Others questioned his decisions.
Hue will never get another head coaching job in the NFL.
Ever.
He’s a loose cannon nutjob.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Not sure how a RB who’s prone to being injured and is good for 7-10 games a season, could be dealt for a 2nd rd pick?
Late 3rd maybe.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Thanks Dj, now I know.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
GG Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
#104 Joe Gibbs.
He took a franchise that hadn’t experienced post-season since his previous departure, and brought them to two playoff seasons in three seasons.
Would say that’s ’successful’.
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Joe Gibbs went 30-34 in his second stint as the Redskins HC. That’s not successful, and barely mediocre.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
How you want to define success?
The redskins were in the doldrums for 20 years. In an always tight NFC East, he got them into the playoffs in two seasons in his second stint.
What’s the Giants record in their super bowl years? 18-14?
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
My source swears Gru=den is going to Nashville.
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Like your mailman hasn’t been wrong before?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Reading between the lines you can tell the players didn’t like seeing Hue go.
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What is it with your hardon for Hue?
Did he pat you on the head or something?
quote: “Jackson declined to answer questions specific to his tenure with the Raiders, while his former players shrugged off his departure.”
READING BETWEEN THE LINES? What were YOU reading?
Players clearly stated “it’s part of the business” “not unexpected”.. I.E. “shrugged off his departure”.
NOT ONE SAID HE WAS A GOOD HEAD COACH. NOT ONE.
All he got was props that go to a OC or line coach.
Stop with your silly “read between the lines” and “the players really miss him” whimper.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Thank god for Colin kapernic!!!!!
Did you see that big Mack!! Were you watching mark Davis?
I would ask Dennis Allen but he seems clueless & lost.
Bungles bowl 2012 the biggest game of Carson’s career is looming. This is a legacy game for Carson if he flops again he should be sent to the bench.
After watching kappy we saw how to handle a you g qb & set him up for success.
Allen has dropped the ball with regards to Pryor & we are now counting down until we get to see our young super qb.
After bungled bowl there will be no reason to watch this dying dog of a team as long as Carson is the trigger man. Carson will lose relavance after a loss in cincy, and Tp6 can provide a little life in an otherwise dreadful string of meaningless games.
I thought Pryor was a better player than kappy but the way he has been grossly mishandled by Allen and staff will mean he is behind kappy in terms of development.
Now kappy is starting And Pryor is still in street clothes.
I dont think that failure in the bungles bowl will allow Allen to keep tp6 on the bench.
Mark Davis was watching kappy & like his pop he wants to see tp6.
We have our own wave of the future qb kappy, RGIII, newton, Wilson all need to
All need to make room.
I can’t wait
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Not sure how a RB who’s prone to being injured and is good for 7-10 games a season, could be dealt for a 2nd rd pick?
Late 3rd maybe.
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On the right team, he could be one of the best RBs in the league, if he stays healthy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Mistic the question is were YOU watching JC get his ass kicked.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Mistic,
So you’re hoping the qb of your favorite team has a horrible game and your team loses?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Yeah Cougs! They won the Apple Cup!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Mistic,
So you’re hoping the qb of your favorite team has a horrible game and your team loses?
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Mistic is like AIG Raider. A couple years ago he couldn’t wait to see JC get killed by the Steelers so Gradkowski could play.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I agree that we should get a look at TP6. It’s not like any of the staff members know what they are doing on offense. It took 9 or 10 games for them to realize that Reece is a weapon on offense? lol These guys are a joke.
Give the kid a shot and save Palmer from getting beat down.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Albert,
Don’t u mean the other way around?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Albert,
Don’t u mean the other way around?
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It might have been. I don’t know anymore. It’s too confusing.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
No Johnny
I’m looking at how this season has gone exactly as I predicted so far sans the Pitt game.
Carson and the raiders have flopped even though you and others said it would be a playoff year.
Now that bungles bowl is arou style corner it is the last relevant game for carson as a raider this year & maybe ever.
Time to shut him down as he has brought nothing with him to the table except baggage & the ghost of bungles past.
Looking forward to tp6 getting an extended look, & starts under his belt.
Simple cant excuse keepi g a weapon like that off the field under the present circumstance.
Carson does not provide a reason to watch beyond bungles bowl.
I am curious to see how Carson fares after all he was sent packing by brown and the boys, picked up off he scrap heap the. Led this team straight to jokeville.
Tp6 gets his shot soon, & I can’t wait
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Well like I said before :Then they should go to CHURCH and buy some HOLY WATER and tell the nun to RUB IT ON THEIR LEGS!
Then go to the GOODWILL and donate their RAIDERS UNIFORMS
and the remainder of their BEN GAY CREAM!
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
After watchIng kappy, the. RGIII, I am dying for us to unleash what could be he greatest draft move we have made since Tim brown
We have to see the kid play to know either way
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Mistic,
Maybe when Pryor starts, and we STILL get hammered, you’ll realize that it takes the whole team to win a game and there is more to a team than just the QB.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
After watchIng kappy, the. RGIII, I am dying for us to unleash what could be he greatest draft move we have made since Tim brown
We have to see the kid play to know either way
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Fck all that what about ya boy JC, you gon just diss him like that!!! how chicken schit of you, all the comments you’ve made about him over the years and now he cant even get an honorable mention. thats cold Mistic.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
After watchIng kappy, the. RGIII, I am dying for us to unleash what could be he greatest draft move we have made since Tim brown
We have to see the kid play to know either way
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I agree with you. I too would like to see what Pryor can do and if he can win games for us? I’ll be promoting him just as much as you are.
I just see waaaaay more issues than just our qb.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Mistic,
Maybe when Pryor starts, and we STILL get hammered, you’ll realize that it takes the whole team to win a game and there is more to a team than just the QB.
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DJ its not about winning at this point its just about seeing what TP’S got, has he progressed since the last time we saw him in pre season. I would like to see him also, the season is done for us.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
omoran Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Well like I said before :Then they should go to CHURCH and buy some HOLY WATER and tell the nun to RUB IT ON THEIR LEGS!
Then go to the GOODWILL and donate their RAIDERS UNIFORMS
and the remainder of their BEN GAY CREAM!
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OMORAN= BRINGIN IT.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Would if Tp6 plays great but we still lose? You can’t give him a pass for that and not Palmer.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
135,
Yes East, i’m with ya, i’m just saying Mistic has inferred that the qb is our main problem and that we would win games with someone other than Palmer.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
What* lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Would if Tp6 plays great but we still lose? You can’t give him a pass for that and not Palmer.
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Exactly. One game that points to that is the last game of the yr. against SD when Palmer was 30-42 417 yd’s and two td’s and WE STILL LOST.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Mistic1 You’re a man after my own heart…….they just don’t get what this is all about….it’s like when Jazz hit the scene a hundred years ago. They kept it in brothels because it was just to risque then the white folks would take it out of the brothels into their chambermaids bedroom and grove with her.
Then it hit the juke joints and after that Louis and those before him took it to the streets next thing you know. The main stream white folks was claiming it for their own. It was all up in the Cotton Club and the Ritz. It is what it is………it’s here and main stream has gotten bit by the bug now everybody wants to here that sound.
When RGIII ripped up Dallas that was it, Jerry wants to hear that sound and so does Mark and the rest of those boys. It is here to stay. I come from the music industry and C&W ruled the music industry for 75 years until Hip Hop came from the Ghetto to main streeet now C&W artist are hiring hip hop artist to write music for them. Aint that a twist???
Before you know you wont be able to get a job unless you have some athlticism………..period
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
No Miami,
I will not hold Pryor to the same standard as Palmer for a few simple reasons.
Palmer was here to win now (actually last year as well) he failed. Pryor only needs to prove that we can build around him for the future as this seaaon is toast
Palmer is 10 year vet Pryor is essentially a rookie
Pryor doesn’t lead wins right away I’m fine as long as he proves he can play, & provide hope for our future
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Boy am I affraid of MNF.We always lose and they always talk bad about us. Not to say they don’t even show the sidelines or the players saying -HI MOMS — NO NOOOOH NOT ANYMORE.
Not even our QBS.
But thats okay : YOU SEE WE ARE SPECIAL, We are different,
We are-THE OAKLAND RAIDERS. The few the proud the black hole
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Would if Tp6 plays great but we still lose? You can’t give him a pass for that and not Palmer.
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2 diff situations Palmer is a vet TP6 is basically a rookie and if he were to do well it would let us know he has a future here, CP3 playing well is expected, but alot of CP3′S stats have come when the game has been decided.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
If Pryor plays great, we have another 1st or 2nd rd pick when we trade one of the QBs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Well said priestt
Everybody saw kappy & RGIII everybody watched newton last year,& it is clear.
We have potentially our own version and he best draft pick since Tim brown & he is in street clothes?!?!!?
That is unacceptable & I am certain Davis will not allow Allen to keep up this ridiculous posture with regards to Pryor.
Move over Palmer Pryor turn to take the wheel
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
No Miami,
I will not hold Pryor to the same standard as Palmer for a few simple reasons.
Palmer was here to win now (actually last year as well) he failed. Pryor only needs to prove that we can build around him for the future as this seaaon is toast
Palmer is 10 year vet Pryor is essentially a rookie
Pryor doesn’t lead wins right away I’m fine as long as he proves he can play, & provide hope for our future
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exactly, well said
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
If CP is putting up garbage time stats when the game is out of reach, does that speak for him or is it that our receivers start getting open when the other teams take their foot of the gas pedal? Or is that how Knapp should have been calling the games from the start? Combo of all ??
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
135,
Yes East, i’m with ya, i’m just saying Mistic has inferred that the qb is our main problem and that we would win games with someone other than Palmer.
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You see what Mistic is really about, he has no words for his boy JC cuz he got smacked on MNF and threw his classic deep strike outta bounds and his patent check down pass. But had JC lit it up for 350 yrds passing with 2 TD’s you would of never heard the end of it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
142,
Than you admit that there are waaay more issues than just the QB when it comes to winning games.
Rookies win right away. Look at Kaepernick.
You might respond “Well SF has a much better team” and I would repond “Exactly”.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
From @SI_PeterKing, NFL will consider abolishing all cut blocks in 2013 http://wp.me/p14QSB-6vwb
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If cut blocks are abolished (which is likely for player safety) doesn’t that mean that ZBS will be abolished? Great! Our O-line finally figures ZBS out and then they can’t use it. Great planning Reggie & DOA. Wake up you guys. Go back to power blocking, fire Knapp & Polack, rehire Wylie & Wiz 1.0, tell DMac he can run once again and oh yes, FIRE Hoffman too.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Mistic1 You’re a man after my own heart…….they just don’t get what this is all about….it’s like when Jazz hit the scene a hundred years ago. They kept it in brothels because it was just to risque then the white folks would take it out of the brothels into their chambermaids bedroom and grove with her.
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LMAO! That is the funniest sh*t I have ever read on this blog. You are the ones living in the past, you and Mistic. What year do you think this is?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
So how many of these “Ragtimers” are going to start a playoff game this season?
Any?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Best draft pick since Tim brown ? the guy was drafted in 3rd without much competition he might have went as far as 5th if Al wasn’t alive
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
JB Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
From @SI_PeterKing, NFL will consider abolishing all cut blocks in 2013 http://wp.me/p14QSB-6vwb
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If cut blocks are abolished (which is likely for player safety) doesn’t that mean that ZBS will be abolished? Great! Our O-line finally figures ZBS out and then they can’t use it. Great planning Reggie & DOA. Wake up you guys. Go back to power blocking, fire Knapp & Polack, rehire Wylie & Wiz 1.0, tell DMac he can run once again and oh yes, FIRE Hoffman too.
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I heard an NFL coach say on the radio that if you ban cut blocks, you may as well just abolish the running game. There is no running game without cut blocks.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The ZBS is not just about cut-blocking, it’s all about stretching the field horizontaly.
You can run 90% of the ZBS running plays without cut-blocking.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Actually it makes no difference to me what jc did or does in Chicago. I made no predictions about his career there.
He was a far better qb for us than the guy that followed.
What he does as a bear has no impact on this. Are you guys near fans? I’m not
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
So how many of these “Ragtimers” are going to start a playoff game this season?
Any?
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Kaepernick the mulatto might start one.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
If JC had less than 3 years, I’m telling you guys he would have used the experience sh1t excuse for him , but since he’s in his 7th or 8th year, Mistic got nothing to say about JCs performance
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Question for the moment. Where do the funds for all these player fines go and who gets the cash? Seems to me that if the NFL is the benefactor of these fines, they shouldn’t be the ones with the power to fine players. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Follow the money and see who is lining their pockets. Something is a little screwy in this process.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
East,
It’s funny. You know what they were calling JC in Chicago BEFORE the mnf game? “Captain Checkdown”.
JC was very classy in an interview on “Bears All Access” on the radio earlier in the yr. when he talked about his time in Oakland and actually acted like he was proud to have played there. He said Raiders have “best fans in football” and then said ..”..but i love the bears fans too”.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I understand but at the end of the day, it still comes down to wins and losses.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Pryor has not played in 1 full game and even Hue (who liked all the trick plays and stuff never used Pryor other than 1 play , yet he’s best pick since T brown lmao
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
East,
It’s funny. You know what they were calling JC in Chicago BEFORE the mnf game? “Captain Checkdown”.
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I heard a guy on ESPN Chicago call him ‘Discount Double Check Down’. That was priceless.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
JC never does sh1t when his running game doesn’t take over the game as proven by his MnF game and last weeks game against Houston , and his time with the Raiders
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Actually it makes no difference to me what jc did or does in Chicago. I made no predictions about his career there.
He was a far better qb for us than the guy that followed.
What he does as a bear has no impact on this. Are you guys near fans? I’m not
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BS, when RGiii or Cam has a big day you come in and blog all day long about it when they dont do well not so much, wouldnt have been any different had JC lit it up, you woulda been in here all day tue talkn up JC.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
JFB,
So are you not a fan of what RGIII, Freeman, Wilson, and Kapernicky are doing?
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
That could very well happen, Miami.
Mistic will deflect that and only talk about TP6.
He is NOT rational, and he carries an agenda.
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Funny sh1t was when JC was checking down to M Forte when they needed a TD with less than 90 secs to go
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I’ve been amazed at what RgIII has done so far. Quick release, accurate and composed in the pocket.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
The other day a school boy about 12 gave me the most sadness
I had ever had in 10 years.
He was in the street playing football with his friends and I happen to stop to watch him .He took a rest and ask me
What was my NFL TEAM? I turn Red and batchful, he said comom I SAID OAKLAND RAIDERS , he said what, who told you
To pick that DUDE, you are CRAZY that team is awful and its always losing. Since he was 6 yr he was watching us lose for
10 Yrs. So I think is already catching up to us!
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The ZBS is not just about cut-blocking, it’s all about stretching the field horizontaly.
You can run 90% of the ZBS running plays without cut-blocking.
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The ZBS is also about strictly regimenting how and where your backs run. You need backs who will do as they’re told, no questions asked.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
JFB,
So are you not a fan of what RGIII, Freeman, Wilson, and Kapernicky are doing?
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All have one thing in common they all have good running games to rely on and 2 of them have D’s ranked in top 5 , so that’s really good ,Heck BigBen went 13-0 in his rookie year relying in D Lebeaus D
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
The week has gone to form:
Carcux is still ahead in fan support over JC, no surprise here, and no help from him.
Hue has held the 50-50 split, but looks to improve as Robo Jr. still can’t get a clue.
Still the real bellwether is, do the bungle fans miss Carcux? Would they take Carcux back over Andy Dalton? Are there any bungle Carcux fans left in Cincy?
The Raiders are getting +10 points at the sport book down here in Tecate, what do you think, is that a lock or what?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Griffin is the one who could be a proto-typical pocket passer one day , he can have success ,I can see him leading teams to wins just by his arm, not sure about Wilson and Kap
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Zopi Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
The week has gone to form:
Carcux is still ahead in fan support over JC, no surprise here, and no help from him.
Hue has held the 50-50 split, but looks to improve as Robo Jr. still can’t get a clue.
Still the real bellwether is, do the bungle fans miss Carcux? Would they take Carcux back over Andy Dalton? Are there any bungle Carcux fans left in Cincy?
The Raiders are getting +10 points at the sport book down here in Tecate, what do you think, is that a lock or what?
–/ new iD Mistic?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Alright way to sack up and be a man about your role in the passing game Degnarlious. Good thing too. Now go be gnarly and get me some RAIDER TOCUHDOWNS on sunday!!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Omoran, I hear you pain.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
So are you not a fan of what RGIII, Freeman, Wilson, and Kapernicky are doing?
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Freeman is playing lights out and has them poised to make a playoff push. Like that.
The other ones have a combined 12 wins total in the NFL. I think I will let them play a little while before declaring them as doing anything.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
J Hill,
Are you a fan of what Luck is doing?
If this is about athleticism and not something else, than why mention Freeman? Freeman’s athleticism and running ability is not his calling card.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
The only recourse that some of you losers have is to talk about jc Monday night, I see that as feeble and weak. I made no predictions about jc with the bears so I have no stake in it. I made predictions a out jc as a raider and I was right. I made predictions about Palmer & I was right. I made predictions about RGIIi Wilson & newron last year & I was right.
Lol if hammering away on a topic I didn’t even offer a take on gives you a sense of revenge have at it.
It has no impact on what I said what would happen here.
Again it has happened exactly like I told you it would
Lmao
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Omoran, thank you.
I have cracked up reading your posts and feel as if you should post more often.
I to feel your pain.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Mistic, we root against JC to shut losers like you up. His performance also validates the decision to go with Palmer. He is twice the QB Campbell is.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Mac clueless
I said tp6 could potentially be the best draft pick since brown.
I did not say he was.
He is clearly one of the most dynamic talents and athletes draft picks we have had since brown.
6″6 250 lbs of power and speed. I’m dying to see the kid play
Carson is toast especially if he loses the bungles bowl.
Can you imagine the humiliation of Carson and his devout blog worshipers?
Yikes
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hey, I’ve been posting here longer than DMac has been with the Raiders or that you’ve been around pal. I don’t or have ever posted under any other name, here or anywhere else, check it out, I go way back.
And, why do you use a player’s tag anyway, can’t you be more creative than that?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
“Don’t hit them in the head, don’t lead with the helmet, don’t pull them from behind, don’t hit them below the knees, got it! Is stomach still okay or are some of these guys expecting.”
lol too true
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Abp, what jc does as a bear has no impact on what he accomplished here.
My argument is that he was a better player for his team
Won more games turned it over less & dominated the division & last took a snap in 1st place.
This can’t be undOne by what happens in Chicago.
Lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
It’s not about white and black nearly as much as it is that extra element to pick up a 1st down or TD when the defense has the offense in check. Johnnie Football at Texas A&M is a sick athlete and look what he’s done as a froshman at A&M because of his athletcism. He can beat you with his arm and if you blink he’ll take it to the house.
That is what TP6 can do for this offense if the play breaksdown he becomes dangerous. CP becomes null and void how many plays and yards have we left on the field because he cannot extend plays. Yes he is by far the better passer yet we can’t score in the redzone. In todays NFL with these big fast DE’s you have to be able to escape the pocket and make a play………..period
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The pocket passer is not going away anytime soon.
Unless they change the rules of the game, the primary need of the NFL passing game will remain the ability to throw quickly and accurately downfield.
IF you have a guy that can do that…AND run for yards when everything breaks down it’s a big bonus.
RG3 does that. He’s got it all from what i’ve seen, but if he did not have the ACCURACY….i don’t care how “athletic” he is…defenses would stop him.
Fortunately for RG3, he’s got both going for him.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Mac clueless
I said tp6 could potentially be the best draft pick since brown.
I did not say he was.
He is clearly one of the most dynamic talents and athletes draft picks we have had since brown.
6″6 250 lbs of power and speed. I’m dying to see the kid play
Carson is toast especially if he loses the bungles bowl.
Can you imagine the humiliation of Carson and his devout blog worshipers?
Yikes
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LOL.
he’s not 6′6″. He’s 6′4″
He’s not 250, he’s 233.
You sure you have the right guy?
the guy I saw running around looked completely lost, and looked like anything but a qb.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Not sure what to expect outta the Raiders Defense…. But I still want an effort..
I expect Palmer to have a good game.. And I expect a high scoring game….if the defense shows up they could win it… The Bungs won their last 2 but haven’t been a powerhouse this year either…..
Hope Huff , Branch and Mitchell remember to Not… Let the Fk’n Wr’s get by them deep………..Go Raiders….
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I really like RGIII.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Are you a fan of what Luck is doing?
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Yes
Aaron Rogers is the best of the bunch.
I like Romo too.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Bengals 34
Raiders 16
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
and im erring on the side of caution!
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Here’s what’s amazing.
The coaches see these guys practice. See how they perform.
Considering TP isn’t even suiting up, that’s a pretty good indication on what the complete coaching staff sees..he’s just not ready.
But reading a few of his groupies, according to them, this guy who’s never stepped on the field for an official game, is a stud, a superstar in the making, an awesome specimen.
Can you just imagine the excuses Mistic, TJprest, and others will come up with, if TP busts out?
I GUARANTEE YOU NOW IT WON’T BE TP’S FAULT, IT’S THE COACHING STAFFS FAULT.
Anyone care to bet on that?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Two people shot in Wall Mart parking lot today over a parking space
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57553820/police-2-shot-at-fla-walmart-over-parking-space/
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
YO BLOG NERDS AND GOOBS
When The Dawg has a rumbly in the tumbly, you know yours truly is about to deliver a Super Dawg Lawg. That’s right. Let’s just hope I can make it to the toilet in time. Word.
Last night the duece Lawg was so big, it beat on the nads and the Dawg Lawg so hard it caused a little swelling. But the posse quickly saved the day with a tub of crushed ice and some Aloe Vera for a good soaking. The Lawg quickly recovered so I could bust that nut for the Posses’ evening video shoot. Word.
WE DUMP AND HUMP DAT RUMP, FO REALZ
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
When I was in Florida 1970- 1992 The word OAKLAND RAIDERS and MNF was like GOD.
Every MEDIA, TV channels will air the games including CAR RADIO. When MNF was here in DOLPHIN ORANGE BOWL. Vs
Don Shula players the word from schools, lunch time and work areas was–AH WE LOSE TONIGHT, they have everyone, those guys always WIN! My Dad used to say -look don’t talk those RAIDERS or that OAKLAND of yours is an ABUSER was his word
DUDES RAIDER CLOGHING WAS IN MIAMI EVERYWERE!
Every area you look STABLER CASPER BRANCH BILETNIKOV GUY VILLIPIANO BANASAK VAN EEGEN and TATUM. T-Shirts everyghing including belts sandels pj ect.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I picked a Raider victory last week. F*ck it, I’m doing it again:
Raiders 20
Bengals 17
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
For DA’s sake
Raiders-27
Bengals-23
Reality
Raiders-27
Bengals-41
=/
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Actually, the Saints didn’t want to embarrass Allen, they took the pedal off.
Bengals will not feel the need to do that.
So, what I actually expect…
Bengals 41
Raiders 10
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Yep…Rg was outstanding yesterday… That kids gonna set lots of records and sport some rings before he’s done….
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
You got to run to get in position to throw.
Leaving the pocket to run just won’t work in the NFL. Freeman does a good job of that. Aaron Rodgers is one of the best ever to do it. Big Ben won two Super Bowls breaking the backs of defenses doing it.
All this running around from QB’s is like Nelly Ball. It looks great in October, never seems to be around in January though.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
196
I agree.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Once again people are talking about players they have barely watched. I have watched freeman Wilson rgiii newton and Pryor extensively. Almost every college snap and every pro snap.
Freeman was known as an athlete playing qb all through college and really only now has this begun to change. Being known as an athlete doesn’t mean you have blazing speed either. It freeman is very athletic and always has been.
Wilson is super athletic but he has always been known as a pocket passer that beats tams with his arm ever since he was a freshman at nc state.
Lmao talking about qbs but don’t know shid about them
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
JFB,
I think we have a different bar going on right now.
Doing anything = playoffs, eh?
Well I’m simply looking at can they play the position.
Freeman looks good because they went out and got him Jackson and Martin, lol.
The FIRST question we need answered is can you actually play QB and not just be a runner.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
The Raiders are doing a disservice to Pryor. I understand they’re stuck with Palmer, in particular at the cost.
The argument this and last seasons were that “we had a better chance to win with Palmer.” Well, whether or not it was or is Palmer’s fault that the Raiders are losing, the Raiders are not only losing, but heavy on the stinking. I have always asked what’s the difference of being 3-7 with Palmer or Pryor? Well, at least we’re looking at the future, trying to develop whatever talent Pryor has, or doesn’t.
But, Pryor sitting down another entire season does him no good either. BigMac should waive him if he doesn’t think he is worthy of the roster spot. Why waste a spot on someone you don’t value? Makes no sense.
Pryor was at one particular time rated number one over his entire class, the highest recruited player in the nation. I can’t believe this kid can’t play at a better level that a lot of qbs playing now.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RGIII I good , all of Mistics other Qb’s are flops , C newton , Wilson and pretty soon Kapernick
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Whiskey Jack @ronnie0351
You don’t find the #RaiderNation. The Raider Nation finds you. You are born a Raider. You don’t become a Raider.
Retweeted by Tyler Hunt
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Does that mean we are all born losers.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Bengals destroyed the reigning champ Giants. Racing to something like a 31-3 lead against a very strong and cohesive team and organization with much talent and great coaching. Versus us…it will get ugly very quickly.
Bengals racing to something like a 28-3 lead, before Palmer gets us into the endzone in the last two mins like we often do. So 28-10 at the half. Then the typical 3rd qtr meltdown occurs. Bengals extend to something like 49-13 end of the third.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Doing anything = playoffs, eh?
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It is kind of what defines QB’s isn’t it?
Not going to just say Super Bowls, but you got to give me at least some playoff wins to be really doing something.
Matt Ryan HAS TO win at least one playoff game this season, or he will go on the hot seat, 75% winning percentage in the regular season and all.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Now Johnny and Mac troll trying to act like they are RGIII fans
4 years ago when I said he would own the nfl they among others said he would never play in the nfl
Stop it losers
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
HAHAHA ABP.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Once again people are talking about players they have barely watched. I have watched freeman Wilson rgiii newton and Pryor extensively. Almost every college snap and every pro snap.
Freeman was known as an athlete playing qb all through college and really only now has this begun to change. Being known as an athlete doesn’t mean you have blazing speed either. It freeman is very athletic and always has been.
Wilson is super athletic but he has always been known as a pocket passer that beats tams with his arm ever since he was a freshman at nc state.
Lmao talking about qbs but don’t know shid about them
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He just likes athletic Qb’s ,yet never mentions Kapernick , so you guys know he just got love hate relationship when it comes to black Qb’s compared to white Qb’s , hey any excuses for C newton this year ? Sophomore slump ? Any?? Or how JC why isn’t he winning games in Chicago , he got the benefit of throwing to best receiver he ever got B Marshall
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Bengals extend to something like 49-13 end of the third.
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LOL
What will the final score be? 70-20?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
184,
Mistic, why can’t you accept that this IS A TEAM GAME.
You can act all cocky about Palmer winning the game at Cincy. We come in 8 pt. underdogs?
The probability is we lose on Sunday. If we do it will be the Bengals defeating the Raiders…
Last I checked it is Cincy vs. Oakland…NOT Cincy vs. Palmer by himself. You realize Palmer does not play defense don’t you? But that doesn’t matter to you does it, UNLESS it is one of YOUR qb’s you are touting, then….all of a sudden there are other considerations like weak line play etc.
If the Raiders are good enough where Palmer should overcome all odds and lead the team to victory no matter what, then the same will apply to Pryor if he comes in and loses or if any other qb you tout comes up short.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Rex Ryan…. Wow…. When it rains it pours…. If it could go wrong it did for them yesterday…. That kind play is contagious…. Seen it with the Raiders way to often
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Tebow is the only guy who has done something of the “dual threat” guys, winning a playoff game using a different threat (the deep ball) as opposed to running around all season.
Other than him, none of them have won a playoff game since Vick won one 10 years ago.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
My source swears Gruden is going to Nashville.
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My inside source says Gruden is coming here, and she said Amy is putting the stadium deal together with Gruden in mind. But damn, evertime I get info from my source, I gotta take her out to dinner, that’s not cheap by the way, then I got to get her drunk on expensive wine, and then, my willie is toast. Cause she works the sh1t out of it and won’t let up. She’s a grinding fool. I mean, I gotta eat enough viagra to keep it up for eight hours, but boy do I pay for it the next day. Hurts like a s.o.b. to even piss. She says shes’ got more info, but I am not sure I want to hear it right now. My johnson can’t take it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
If the Bengals want to hurt Mark/Reggie for Hue they will want to embarrass us. Remember Hue did say recently something like, “i dont want to comment about the past, but i will say what’s happening there right now says it all”….something like that.
So, it could end up a 55+ score if they hit 45 by end of the 3rd. Or they could take the pedal off and just grind out the last 7 mins of the 4th running the ball for small 1st downs, taking a knee at the Raiders 5 yard line, if they hit 35 by the end of the third, keeping it a 45-20 type of score.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Now Johnny and Mac troll trying to act like they are RGIII fans
4 years ago when I said he would own the nfl they among others said he would never play in the nfl
Stop it losers
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4 years ago?? Wtf u talking about ? i started blogging here only a year ago loll I’m not a big RG fan and pretty sure I could bring up his record to put any notion to him as a good record just like you , but you see I don’t have anything against players of any colors like you do, I followed Griffin a little bit in college and I always liked his game, I thought Indy should have went for RGIII , his team should have been doing going if not for bad D
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Now Johnny and Mac troll trying to act like they are RGIII fans
4 years ago when I said he would own the nfl they among others said he would never play in the nfl
Stop it losers
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I wasn’t on this blog 4 yr’s ago and i defy you to show anything i’ve ever posted that was anti-RG3.
Do you hold the patent on RG3 appreciation?
He’s impressive. Only an idiot would deny that, and for the record i am NOT a fan of RG3. He plays for the Redskins. Do i think he’s an impressive QB? Who wouldn’t.
If he played for the Raiders? I would be a huge fan.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Boz Hammerhorn is Seymour Bush doing his best Beeecham impersonation.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Mactroll kappy IS. BLACK
Lol you are an idiot
I only watched him play in Nevada about 6-7 times and I thought he was fun to watch but erratic.
He is proving that he has amuch higher ceiling than I and others gave him credit for
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
This will be a competitive game this weekend, hope it doesn’t disappoint your Sunday morning if so.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I agree that it’s about the playoff Ws when you talk about top QBs in the league.
Not so sure that is the expectation for 1st and 2nd year QBs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
If Cam was our QB , pretty sure it would have been 99 problems with this team but Cam ain’t one, same with other of his fav Qb’s
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic getting mad if people don’t respect the qb’s he touts but if you like them he still takes exception to it.
Can’t win with this guy.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/23/report-league-will-consider-abolishing-all-blocks-below-the-waist-in-2013/
so goes the zbs system…
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
McNeill and Johnny
When ever you joined you were upset abot the wave of the future and claimed rgiiii wouldn’t make it
You said he was. An athlete not a qb
You were wrong
GTFOH losers
Lol I’m out back after. The biggest game of Carson’s career
BUNGLES BOWL 2012
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
This will be a competitive game this weekend, hope it doesn’t disappoint your Sunday morning if so.
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You’re still in denial about what’s going on. I understand. You doubted me re the Saints game. Said how things would be righted etc. I was right. Raiders got blown out quickly, they took their feet off. And, Mark came out and spoke against what was happening…like i predicted would happen.
Expect more of the same.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Thats why I hate the MIAMI DOLPHINS so much and I was
Spying on them in week #2 – gave us an A$$ whippin or 0–2.
I blog and I called it destany -which I blog urgently asking ALLEN to look at past 3-4 years of being embarace. 0-2
Shame –Madden and STABLER the snake” used to throw at them all night until their TONGUE WILL DROP, then when the
Score was out of reach about 37-19 then he use the Running game. DON SHULA use to say I can’t beat them. They are 17- 3 vs us I believe. HE said this every time. Now it happens again to us.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Mistic you only been right with Griffin prediction, other of your predictions have flamed out, League has figured out Newton, pretty soon they will figure out Wilson, but there is just something to playing in Seattle , they just never lose at home , I like Griffin though want him to succeed
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Abp, what jc does as a bear has no impact on what he accomplished here.
My argument is that he was a better player for his team
Won more games turned it over less & dominated the division & last took a snap in 1st place.
This can’t be undOne by what happens in Chicago.
Lol
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OK how about this, what is your overall opinion of JC career wise?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Palmers been one , if not the best player playing this year….hasn’t been pretty but he’s had no help from the Wr,s … The coaching ( scheme ).. The Defense or Special teams….. Ints happen when you’ve been forced to plat catchup ….like him or not , the guy gives his all and tries .. And excepts accountability… Never blames anyone else…. You guys wanting Pryor don’t really expect the team and coaches to wave the white flag before they’re actually eliminated.. Do you…?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Am I allowed to appreciate Kaepernick as a young and up and coming QB?
I just wanna make sure it’s ok.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
McNeill and Johnny
When ever you joined you were upset abot the wave of the future and claimed rgiiii wouldn’t make it
You said he was. An athlete not a qb
You were wrong
GTFOH losers
Lol I’m out back after. The biggest game of Carson’s career
BUNGLES BOWL 2012
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Lol you can’t win with this fool , prove it to me when did say Griffin would never succeed, I can still bring up washingtons record and discredit his performance if you want me to ?? But I’m not a hater like you who got an agenda , I been giving Griffin credit since Pitts game
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
This will be a competitive game this weekend, hope it doesn’t disappoint your Sunday morning if so.
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I’m more desperate for a competitive game then I was before the ATL game.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I like griffin, never liked C Newton , even last year I knew he was fake and would be exposed just like Mistic, who’s exposed for having an agenda , he rather lose just to tell us fans I told u so then win
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
DJ… I wish the Raiders had been able to snag Kaepernick…
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
You can bet Mistics prolly hoping for Raiders loss every week , he watches Raiders just to see all the things Palmer did wrong to come in here and point em out , and he does the same after his fav Qb’s have good games , but never wants to talk about them after bad 1s , all he goes like they don’t play for the Raidera why bring them up? Lol .. Can anyone tell me if JC surpassed his 12 QB rating from 2 years ago against the Whiners??
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
CINCI 27 -OAK 23
5-11 like it or not.
REMEMBER OUR RECORD – 1rst year
We are going to turn it around, GOD is going to help us.
Pray,Pray alot and do the UNIFORM CHANGES to remove the EVIL !
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Kaepernick has just played on a few games , way too early to put him into HOF , should wait until his 2nd year just like C newton
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
McNeill and Johnny
When ever you joined you were upset abot the wave of the future and claimed rgiiii wouldn’t make it
You said he was. An athlete not a qb
You were wrong
GTFOH losers
Lol I’m out back after. The biggest game of Carson’s career
BUNGLES BOWL 2012
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You are confusing me with someone else man. I NEVER said RG3 was just an athlete; and predicting Cincy will beat us on Sunday is a safe stance since they are heavily favored.
IF Cincy wins, it will be the Bengals beating the Raiders…NOT Cincy beating Palmer.
IT IS A TEAM GAME. There are other factors to consider such as Raiders having there top 2 rb’s out AND quite possibly one of the leagues worst all time defenses.
THAT DOES FACTOR IN. And not just for YOUR qb’s either.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I was hoping we would trade up for Kappy.
NorCal guy with a world class arm. Twice the prospect as Pryor is, BTW.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Expect continuing massive changes. When something so resolute for 40+ years goes thru a period of sudden change and then continues to get worse, that period of massive change keeps happening, not a period of stability. When the Niners, Steelers, Dolphins, Redskins, etc went suffered thru decades of terrible play, the ownership and new ownership constantly kept making constant and quick changes every year or two. It never stopped until some diamond in the rough GM or HC was found that DID provide a ray of hope in terms of stability, in terms of football building know-how.
Expect the Raiders to continue to get hammered, and ownership understanding that seeing as so much has changed, there’s no problem keep changing and changing until something is found.
If Gruden is hired, that’s the know-how that can guarantee Mark franchise stability (even if the W-L’s still hover around .500 for a season or two). It’s about finding a stadium solution immediately – be it new Oakland stadium or playing in the Rose Bowl for 2 years till Farmers Field is ready. Getting that long-term financial security. And the only way to get that is by purging staff yet again, cannot suffer thru yet another season of failure, player revolt, or gutting of talented roster.
The stadium deal ends this year, or 2013. Mark NEEDS to solve the stadium situation first. He doesn’t have the time to let RM/DA (especially DA) continue to regress and find their time in 5 years.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
I’m looking forward to 2nd year of Reg, wins would be nice rest of the way but wouldn’t care either way now, just excited about the prospect of drafting under a real GM
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic is worried more about his “predictions” than he is about the Raiders winning. Football will always be a team game with many parts that need to be working in unison for the team to achieve success.
You can have great pitchers but if you can’t hit the ball, you will more than likely not be successful as a team.
You can be the greatest race car driver but if your pit team is slow and doesn’t know what they are doing…you will lose.
Can’t pin the blame on one player when it’s a team game.
Palmers biggest game of his career? LOL
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Can anyone tell me if JC surpassed his 12 QB rating from 2 years ago against the Whiners??
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I think his rating against the 49ers was 58.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Steelers got 1 thing right, they stick with their Coaches, Chuck Noll had losing records in his first 3 years before turning things around , Cowher had a few losing seasons but they didn’t flinch they stayed with him and he won a SB
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Win every game you can…I expect anyone playing for the Raiders to try and win every time they play…. No slackers… We’ve seen way to many paycheck cashers ….
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Only a marquee name like Gruden can make the Raiders attractive again as a business, as an entertainment, sell out PSLs, merchandise and stadiums, attract minority investors, get more prime time games, more media exposure. Gruden has that rare quality that pervades the national media. He’s extremely popular and generates fandom and discussion.
Watch the Mark interview again, his big cheesy smile and “once a raider always a raider” reference.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Can anyone tell me if JC surpassed his 12 QB rating from 2 years ago against the Whiners??
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I think his rating against the 49ers was 58.
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oh that was on par with his career average
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
The biggest game of Carson’s career
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Lmao. Why? Cuz u say it is?
It’s a regular season game, how could it be the biggest in his career?
We are 3-7 and out of the playoffs.
Just becuz YOU want to add importance to the whole Cincy thing and the fact Palmer played for them doesn’t mean Palmer or ANYBODY else is placing that much importance on it as a defining game for Palmer.
How about an even playing field? That would be too fair wouldn’t it?
I have not read anywhere how this is a “legacy defining game” for Palmer. 3-7 and out of the playoffs with the leagues worst defense backing him up and this regular season game will define his legacy?
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Gruden won’t come back
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
JFB,
I still think you are nuts on your Pryor prospect take.
Had Kapernicky missed a whole season because of scandal, he would have gone undrafted.
Had RGIII been suspended and missed his senior season, he also goes undrafted. 6th rd MAYBE.
If Pryor had played that last season, had another stellar bowl game, he would have EASILY been a first rd pick.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
The biggest game of Carson’s career
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Lmao. Why? Cuz u say it is?
It’s a regular season game, how could it be the biggest in his career?
We are 3-7 and out of the playoffs.
Just becuz YOU want to add importance to the whole Cincy thing and the fact Palmer played for them doesn’t mean Palmer or ANYBODY else is placing that much importance on it as a defining game for Palmer.
How about an even playing field? That would be too fair wouldn’t it?
I have not read anywhere how this is a “legacy defining game” for Palmer. 3-7 and out of the playoffs with the leagues worst defense backing him up and this regular season game will define his legacy?
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Just ignore his Palmer rants he just loves trolling lol just stick with JC or C Newtons latest performances ,that gets under his skin lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
When Pryor does play… I hope he does well….but I don’t expect Pryor to play till later … Maybe the last 3 / 4 games…… Their are still goals this team can reach and I suspect any coaches want to see which players pack it In and who still plays hard….
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
HC/O.C-Gruden
Assistant head coach/Q.B Coach-Gannon
D.C-Ken Norton Jr
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Here’s an idea Mistic. IF you are the Raider fan you say you are you would be rooting FOR Palmer to win. Seeing as he is the qb of your favorite team and all right? But you have already made it crystal clear you want him to fail miserably, so therefore you are rooting AGAINST who you claim is your team.
Great fan.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
just find any of his favorite QB who have just lost and criticize his play (even if their D allowed 70 points ) same why he Criticizes Palmers lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Steelers got 1 thing right, they stick with their Coaches, Chuck Noll had losing records in his first 3 years before turning things around , Cowher had a few losing seasons but they didn’t flinch they stayed with him and he won a SB
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Go back before then. The Steelers thruout the 40’s/50’s/60’s were a pitiful organization. Like the Niners too. They were constantly going thru massive changes, firing and hiring new HCs and GMs every year or two, even new ownership. This keeps happening until an org finally finds someone in whom they can trust, in whom they know has the know-how.
Look at our own Raiders origins. The org was a shambles, constant change for those few years. When they hired Al, they knew he was that someone special they could build on, the rock going forward. Al just happened to be a genius in turning it around so quickly.
Rooney did the same for the Steelers when he bought the 30 year ailing Steelers. When he hired Noll they found their man, and could go thru that initial period, building stability on that.
What Im trying to say is….stability does NOT precede success. You install stability once you find that special someone, even if it takes them a few years. That special someone could be an owner (Rooney). Could be a new GM of an existing owner (Newsome). Could be a new HC (Al Davis, Noll, Shula, Gibbs, Tom Landry, etc).
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Here’s an idea Mistic. IF you are the Raider fan you say you are you would be rooting FOR Palmer to win. Seeing as he is the qb of your favorite team and all right? But you have already made it crystal clear you want him to fail miserably, so therefore you are rooting AGAINST who you claim is your team.
Great fan.
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Could be possible he’s not really a Raiders fan, remember there’s another Whiner fan who comes in here and talks about Palmer
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Palmer?.. I hope he has his best game ever this Sunday…. Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be?… Same goes for anybody playing for the Raiders…
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Had Kapernicky missed a whole season because of scandal, he would have gone undrafted.
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One’s off the field judgement plays into where they are drafted.
Nobody to blame but himself.
Half the league didn’t even show up to his Pro Day. Any 1st round talent, especially a QB, would have the entire league there.
He was lucky Al saved him from sliding further.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I even wanted Russell to play well and win…. Even when I felt stupid doing so……
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Gruden won’t come back
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It’s the best thing that could happen to this franchise, and Mark Davis probably knows it.
Are you against it?
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
This season is a wash, this D s8cks and has been s8cking for 10 years now, I don’t want to see Kelly,Seymour,TB,Huff,McFadden back next year
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Ghost If TP is a bust and can’t play there’a nothing to discuss he can’t play……….period
But I’m not going to make that determination based on a bad game like I know YOU will. Like Kaepernick TP needs to be eased in and allowed to develope. He is not as polished as RG3 or Luck but he can play and given a fair chance everyone will see that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
McFadden20… Theirs gonna be a huge turnover… I’d bet most if not all those players you listed are gone in 2013…
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Raider E Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Gruden won’t come back
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It’s the best thing that could happen to this franchise, and Mark Davis probably knows it.
Are you against it?
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Yesseeing him lead talented teams to play offs , and leading to their downfall as help after not developing young guys, that’s why , we’re in this mess because of him
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Sorry typing from iPhone ..too many mistakes
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
If Gruden had cared about young players as much as he cared about veteran players, we might not have came crushing down after most of his players retired or got long in the tooth
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I don’t see Gruden coming back…would it be good.. Yep… But I just can see Mark Davis giving him the keys to the team….it would take tons of cash to lure Gruden here… Just don’t see it…and I do think we’re gonna see Allen in Oakland for a couple yrs…
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Not impressed with Allen yet… No reason to be …
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
We should stamp our RAIDERS BORN DATE DUDES!
RAIDER SINCE (1967)
FAVORITE PLAYER – DARYLL LAMONICA
FAVORITE RIVALRY- DENVER vs OAKLAND
3 -Hate team-DENVER
MIAMI
K C
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Al Davis controlled the roster, not Gruden.
Those vets were Al Davis players.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
You guys are missing the big picture over and over again. It’s more about a business venture, $$, media exposure. Gruden will provide justification to build a new stadium in Oakland. Gruden will provide a franchise relocating to LA the chance to take off. It’s about establishing a top 10 Forbes ranked organization.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Just because Cam Newton is going through a sophomore slump as many young QB’s do doesnt mean he wont be a great QB. Eli struggled his first few seasons but look at him now only a dumbass would write Cam Newton off so soon.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
After watchIng kappy, the. RGIII, I am dying for us to unleash what could be he greatest draft move we have made since Tim brown
*************** The GREATEST draft move was getting PALMER…but then again watching Pryor totally look like a dumb monkey on the field will just make you shrivel up and go away.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Just because Cam Newton is going through a sophomore slump as many young QB’s do doesnt mean he wont be a great QB. Eli struggled his first few seasons but look at him now only a dumbass would write Cam Newton off so soon. *********** CAM NEWTDUMB won’t live that long…i expect one of his “mistresses” to off him soon just like McNair….its what they do best
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RAIDER POLLS– WHAT TEAM DOES OAKLAND HATES THE MOST?
Answer: DENVER BRONCOS
What about you? ??
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I’ve been a Raiders fan for nearly 30 years and I’ve never rooted against them in that time. Never even thought about it. Not for improved draft position. Not for gambling or fantasy football purposes. Nothing.
In fact, this is the first week I’ve ever seriously considered that I might do such a thing. My reason being that I would like to expedite the end of this era and bring in a proven coach whose personality and style bring back what the Raiders are all about and who knows how to win games and maximize the talent that’s here. I was thinking that by getting embarrassed in Cincinnati while the guy who rightfully should be coaching this team is occupying the other sideline it would hopefully wake Mark up to do what needs to be done.
However, while I can’t imagine actually rooting against the Raiders, even if that was my intent going into a game, I will be wholeheartedly rooting for them. The reason is this: I’m sick and tired of idiots — both in the nation and in the media and fans of other teams — ragging on Carson Palmer. Just ignore the fact the guy is on pace for close to 5,000 yards and 30 TDs and keep telling me what a mistake it was for the Raiders to trade for him. I’d love to see Carson light up the Bengals like a Christmas tree on Sunday just to silence those imbeciles for one day. And the reality is that Palmer could throw for 700 yards and 7 TDs and yet we somehow still lose, those same people will be talking down about the guy. no. the reality is the Raiders owe this one to Palmer and these players need to make sure to find a way to win.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Mactroll kappy IS. BLACK
********************************* he is NOT BLACK….he is a MONGREL…get it right
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Omoran Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RAIDER POLLS– WHAT TEAM DOES OAKLAND HATES THE MOST?
Answer: DENVER BRONCOS
What about you? ?? <<<<<<<<<<<< WRONG its the KC CHIEFS…ask marv hubbard
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
It should be pointed out Pryor never sat out a season in college due to the scandal.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
omoran Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RAIDER POLLS– WHAT TEAM DOES OAKLAND HATES THE MOST?
Answer: DENVER BRONCOS
What about you? ??
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Are u asking which team i, as a fan hate most?
If so, I say I hate all AFC West teams equally.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
GG Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
You guys are missing the big picture over and over again. It’s more about a business venture, $$, media exposure. Gruden will provide justification to build a new stadium in Oakland. Gruden will provide a franchise relocating to LA the chance to take off. It’s about establishing a top 10 Forbes ranked organization.
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I think you’re missing the big, and small picture.
Gruden will provide that?
If that was the case, then why did the Raiders set the league record for blackouts, while Gruden was with the team?
You aren’t really up with things, are you?
You say just bringing in a coach, who’s currently unemployed, and has only coached two teams, one of them for a one time success story, will now take a team that is listed as dead last in value, to a FORBES TOP 10 ORGANIZATION?
Just leap frog past a few hundred organizations, just like that?
Not a NFL top 10, for a Forbes top 10?
LOL. Funny stuff.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
BLACK FRIDAY- HELLO GREETING MY BLACK HOLE BROTHERS
And they say GRUDEN will never come !
Oh believe me he ‘ll come if the PRICE IS RIGHT!
MONEY IS A WEAPON- BUT IT WILL NOT BRING YOU ALL THE HAPPINESS
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
It should be pointed out Pryor never sat out a season in college due to the scandal.
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That’s probably because college isn’t the NFL.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Most Raider fans,not the clowns on here,but most fans want the best QB we have to lead the team.They don’t care if he is white,black,brown,red,yellow,or purple.They just want the best guy.There are a few that want a black QB and it doesn’t matter if he is the best or even if he is any good,as long as he is black.That is a shame.It can also be said there is a certain faction that only wants a white QB and that is equally as sad.The skin color shouldn’t matter,only the ability to play the position should.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
292,
No purple QB’s. I don’t trust ‘em.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
#289
you’re talking ancient history, gruden when just a rookie hc.
his star power has increased far more since.
didnt say they become top 10 soon as he’s hired…said the AIM of the org is to become a top 10, that’s the most important thing these days in this business-only NFL.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Let CP3 go back to Cincy and try to stick it to’em then after that let TP6 play the rest of the season so we can see if he’s good enough to keep around.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Wow, over a 1,000 posts on a holiday weekend spewing nonsense about this wretched franchise. Some guys on here need to get laid.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Chris in New York… Good post( 284)
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Sat out, missed a season, didn’t play, suspended for a season, or what ever.
Point is, he didn’t play a whole college season.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Let’s face it. Pryor isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
You might say he’s a full blown idiot.
Besides the blatant violations bringing all the attention to his team, he then stupidly drives the car he “allegedly” got violating rules, to practice, on the same day his coach had stated he was resigning due to accusations against the coach.
More headline pics he ignorantly brought on himself.
Not to mention wearing a Vick patch when Vick was proven to sadistically kill dogs…while he added his coup de grace:
“Not everybody’s the perfect person in the world. I mean, everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever. I think that people need a second chance.”
BTW, lol, that went over really well…
Like it or not, he’s an idiot.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Most Raider fans,not the clowns on here,but most fans want the best QB we have to lead the team.They don’t care if he is white,black,brown,red,yellow,or purple.They just want the best guy.There are a few that want a black QB and it doesn’t matter if he is the best or even if he is any good,as long as he is black.That is a shame.It can also be said there is a certain faction that only wants a white QB and that is equally as sad.The skin color shouldn’t matter,only the ability to play the position should
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It is sad.
also what’s sad is I just called TP an idiot, and no doubt someone will state I’m only saying it because of his color.
couldn’t be because he’s an actual idiot. Or that he did really really dumb things. Nooo. The racist POS’s of the world will run their race BS.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Let’s face it. Pryor isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
You might say he’s a full blown idiot.
Besides the blatant violations bringing all the attention to his team, he then stupidly drives the car he “allegedly” got violating rules, to practice, on the same day his coach had stated he was resigning due to accusations against the coach.
More headline pics he ignorantly brought on himself.
Not to mention wearing a Vick patch when Vick was proven to sadistically kill dogs…while he added his coup de grace:
“Not everybody’s the perfect person in the world. I mean, everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever. I think that people need a second chance.”
BTW, lol, that went over really well…
Like it or not, he’s an idiot. *************** THE TRUTH = POST OF THE DAY!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
You would think Pryor played for the Donkeys the way some of you talk about him.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Pryor never sat out a full college season.He was due to sit the 1st 4 or 5 games in 2011 but reneged on the agreement he made to be allowed to play in the bowl game and then entered the supplemental draft where he was drafted by the Raiders.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Like it or not you’re an idiot, becaus eyou don’t know the kid nor do you know his situation. But that doesn’t matter you don’t like him so therefore he’s an idiot…………..idiot!
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Raidernation – LET MY PEOPLE GO!
I would to turn PRYOR loose and let him beat CINCI
ALLEN RELEASE THE KRAKEN!
RAIDER SINCE( 1967)
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Cmon Lefty …
The guy DIDN’T PLAY A FULL SEASON HE COULD HAVE IN COLLEGE.
I have NO IDEA what hairs you are trying to spilt here.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Jhill, it never stops in here it’s constant verbal abuse of his smarts and decisions and so forth. Just because they are soo afraid of what he might do rather than being excited for the kid after all he does play for your team I think………some make you wonder!
It has nothing at all to do with Palmer starting it’s an opportunity presenting itself due to our record and we should take advantage.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
If the Raiders were making a playoff push hardly anyone in here would be petitioning for Pryor other than mopup duty. But People are intrigued due to what they see happening in the league now Kaepernick included.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
What are you talking about,J Hill?In 2010,his junior year he played in the Rose bowl after agreeing to a 5 game suspension for the 2011 season.In 2011 he applied for the supplemental draft after he dropped out of school and before he served any suspension and was drafted.He was suspended for 5 games by the NFL.He never sat out any time while in college.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Priest,
The way I honestly feel, like Lefty said, I couldn’t care less what color Pryor is as long as we win.
I think most of the nation feels the same way.
I do have issue when so called fans root for their qb to fail, and thusly have their team lose, just so they can come back on a blog and brag about it later. That is no fan…period.
It’d be fun to see Pryor play and see what he can do in a real game. I’m intrigued.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
So are many others, But Ghost wants to go to name calling the kid. What is that all about?
No neeed to get personal, in any case he is an intriguing prospect and this team deparately needs an heir apparent at that position if he can make it we ALLLL win I think.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
In 2011 he applied for the supplemental draft after he dropped out of school
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Dropped out of school instead of playing his senior year?
LOL
Are you really trying to sit here and argue that his plan was to come out after his junior year?
Had the whole Tressell having to resign thing hadn’t happened, he wouldn’t have played his senior year???
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Pryor wanted to stay in school but the whole thing blew up in his face they didn’t wnat him there because the coach was fired. He was due to sit out the first 5 games but animousity grew so he left for the NFL. Goodell takes their mantle and suspends him for the NCAA something never ever heard of but again this kid has been used abused and taken advantage of but dare he try to mae a few bucks to help mother at home. Then he’s branded a criminal.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
He dropped out after the sh!t hit the fan.A month later he was banned from the campus.That is how he became eligible for the supplemental draft.He didn’t play his senior year.He only played 3 seasons.2011 would have been his senior year.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I’ve been a Raiders fan for nearly 30 years and I’ve never rooted against them in that time. Never even thought about it. Not for improved draft position. Not for gambling or fantasy football purposes. Nothing.
In fact, this is the first week I’ve ever seriously considered that I might do such a thing. My reason being that I would like to expedite the end of this era and bring in a proven coach whose personality and style bring back what the Raiders are all about and who knows how to win games and maximize the talent that’s here. I was thinking that by getting embarrassed in Cincinnati while the guy who rightfully should be coaching this team is occupying the other sideline it would hopefully wake Mark up to do what needs to be done.
However, while I can’t imagine actually rooting against the Raiders, even if that was my intent going into a game, I will be wholeheartedly rooting for them. The reason is this: I’m sick and tired of idiots — both in the nation and in the media and fans of other teams — ragging on Carson Palmer. Just ignore the fact the guy is on pace for close to 5,000 yards and 30 TDs and keep telling me what a mistake it was for the Raiders to trade for him. I’d love to see Carson light up the Bengals like a Christmas tree on Sunday just to silence those imbeciles for one day. And the reality is that Palmer could throw for 700 yards and 7 TDs and yet we somehow still lose, those same people will be talking down about the guy. no. the reality is the Raiders owe this one to Palmer and these players need to make sure to find a way to win.
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Thats a real good post. Total shame, scam and con Hue was dumped for these clowns we have as coaches. Makes me sick Hue was not given the opportunity to have a legit DC and build around Palmer and McFadden. Could it be that Reggie and Allen aren’t to bright? I mean, knapp part II? Palmer is a great QB hamperred by a coach that does not understand his abilities. If he did, he’d have McFadden and Reece back there in a power run game, making Palmers passing game more of a threat. Just fckn nuts. Bizzaro doesn’t even begin to describe the lunacy this ‘new regime’ has created.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Everbody blamed that kid for teh sanctions and geting his coach fired. Now that is some funny stuff. His coach is innocent he’s at fault and an idiot. Forget what the coaches and the other student athletes did it’s all about what Pryor did………what an agenda!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Cork Thanks we hit over 300 blogs – Congrat!
Imagine if we – REALEASE THE KRAKEN PRYOR to them like the Kiper kid and we find the KRAKEN PRYOR IS all HELL LOOSE and beats CINCI 42- 23 ,then next week the same. Every week until
We are 10-6 or 9-7 .RAIDERS get going a la BRADY STYLE and we use our Runners to also open ,our DEFENSE begins to Crank
Up and we get Blitzes and Pass Rushers Decipline and we GO ON ALL CYLINDERS. WE WILL BECOME LIKE NEW ENGLAND!
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
So we are right back at he missed a year of college football, Lefty.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Hey all, how is everyone tonight?
—Marcel Reece is the truth. Let the man pound the rock, Goodson can help out on special teams when he comes back.
Its funny. We put in some simple stretch plays, some power run blocking and Voila we have a hundred yard rusher.
Our RB corps is WAY more successful in the power scheme.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Raiders need to rally around Hue on Sunday to send a message to Reg and DA. Mark should take note also.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Priest,he was linked to some illegal benefits.It wasn’t just selling memorabilia.He drove something like 8 different cars in 3 years.I won’t argue why he got in trouble,it is irrelevant.The point I was making to J Hill is he never sat out any time while in college.He never missed a whole year of college ball or even part of one.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Our RB corps is WAY more successful in the power scheme.
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Everybody in the world knows this. What do you wanna bet bet knapp goes back to the zbs again on Sunday and Reece is held to say, 20-30 yards. Typical knapp game planning. Doesn’t make sense I know, but that is the way the OC does things. Go figure.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Ghost If TP is a bust and can’t play there’a nothing to discuss he can’t play……….period
But I’m not going to make that determination based on a bad game like I know YOU will. Like Kaepernick TP needs to be eased in and allowed to develope. He is not as polished as RG3 or Luck but he can play and given a fair chance everyone will see that.
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My determination wasn’t off of one game.
But that’ wasn’t my point. I keep reading same comments from same posters saying the super star of the Raiders is on the bench. or how he’s a star and being held back.
All I’m saying is NO ONE can state that nor can they state he’s a bust.
Why are some of you putting him on this huge pedestal, when he’s done nothing? Aren’t you setting yourself up to try and explain yourself if he’s not all that?
isn’t it more prudent to just wait and see, and then place your bets?
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I’ve been a Raiders fan for nearly 30 years and I’ve never rooted against them in that time. Never even thought about it. Not for improved draft position. Not for gambling or fantasy football purposes. Nothing.
In fact, this is the first week I’ve ever seriously considered that I might do such a thing. My reason being that I would like to expedite the end of this era and bring in a proven coach whose personality and style bring back what the Raiders are all about and who knows how to win games and maximize the talent that’s here. I was thinking that by getting embarrassed in Cincinnati while the guy who rightfully should be coaching this team is occupying the other sideline it would hopefully wake Mark up to do what needs to be done.
However, while I can’t imagine actually rooting against the Raiders, even if that was my intent going into a game, I will be wholeheartedly rooting for them. The reason is this: I’m sick and tired of idiots — both in the nation and in the media and fans of other teams — ragging on Carson Palmer. Just ignore the fact the guy is on pace for close to 5,000 yards and 30 TDs and keep telling me what a mistake it was for the Raiders to trade for him. I’d love to see Carson light up the Bengals like a Christmas tree on Sunday just to silence those imbeciles for one day. And the reality is that Palmer could throw for 700 yards and 7 TDs and yet we somehow still lose, those same people will be talking down about the guy. no. the reality is the Raiders owe this one to Palmer and these players need to make sure to find a way to win.
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Thats a real good post. Total shame, scam and con Hue was dumped for these clowns we have as coaches. Makes me sick Hue was not given the opportunity to have a legit DC and build around Palmer and McFadden. Could it be that Reggie and Allen aren’t to bright? I mean, knapp part II? Palmer is a great QB hamperred by a coach that does not understand his abilities. If he did, he’d have McFadden and Reece back there in a power run game, making Palmers passing game more of a threat. Just fckn nuts. Bizzaro doesn’t even begin to describe the lunacy this ‘new regime’ has created.
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I think Hue was a better play caller than the OC we have right now. Im all for replacing Knapp, but to say Hue is a better Head Coach than Dennis Allen is a stretch.
If only we could have demoted Hue to OC– but oh wait, no coach would EVER let themselves be demoted like that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Lefty12 Both of you are saying the same thing using differing viewpoints. He left school for the NFL but he never sat out and stayed at school because they didn’t want him there once Tressel got canned. So in essence you’re right.
I think he stays if Tressel stays and starts the 6th game of the season. Bt getting suspended by Goodell is what pisses me off he tried to ruin the kids rookie year.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Our RB corps is WAY more successful in the power scheme.
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Everybody in the world knows this. What do you wanna bet bet knapp goes back to the zbs again on Sunday and Reece is held to say, 20-30 yards. Typical knapp game planning. Doesn’t make sense I know, but that is the way the OC does things. Go figure.
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Nah, I say they stay with the power scheme. It’s simpler for Reece because he doesn’t know the playbook from the HB position.
Look for Reece to have at least 100 all purpose yards
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
We cant keep moaning about how we lost Hue.
He’s gone. He aint coming back. Probably ever.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
.He never missed a whole year of college ball or even part of one.
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Thought he got caught, was going to be suspended for 5 games at least, but decided to cease and desist on his own, leading to “we wish him luck, and we hope he comes back and finishes his education”
The fact he was going to be hit with those game suspensions, but instead decided to leave school and hit the NFL trail, is why the Comm stated he had to serve out those game suspensions in the NFL, due to the fact he appeared to be trying to skit his punishment by pursuing the windfalls of the NFL.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:05 pm
You can say he missed it if you wish.I won’t say that.He choose not to play it.He declared so it was his choice.He dropped out of school on his own.He was never forced to not play any games while in college.He would have been forced to miss 5 games if he had stayed in school.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Lefty12 Both of you are saying the same thing using differing viewpoints. He left school for the NFL but he never sat out and stayed at school because they didn’t want him there once Tressel got canned. So in essence you’re right.
I think he stays if Tressel stays and starts the 6th game of the season. Bt getting suspended by Goodell is what pisses me off he tried to ruin the kids rookie year
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Goodell sent a message. A correct message. If you cheat in school, and get caught, don’t think you’re going to just drop out of school, and make yourself eligible for the NFL, and not take your punishment.
You’re just way to lenient and seem to believe players are gods, and should be allowed to do whatever, to whomever.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
the_kid101 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
We cant keep moaning about how we lost Hue.
He’s gone. He aint coming back. Probably ever.
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What if someone does keep moaning about how we lost Hue?
Any suggestions?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Pryor is more than ready so -LET MY PEOPLE GO (ALLEN) RAMSEY! RELEASE THE KRAKEN
Let him go now and get rid of Laneirt and draft a new future Qb
Tall 6-5 movable with Strong Brady arm. This way we begin to make moves for the future like the other teams.
GO FOWARD NOT BACKWARD -so if Pryor is hurt the New Brady is waiting ahead of time
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Ghost If TP is a bust and can’t play there’a nothing to discuss he can’t play……….period
But I’m not going to make that determination based on a bad game like I know YOU will. Like Kaepernick TP needs to be eased in and allowed to develope. He is not as polished as RG3 or Luck but he can play and given a fair chance everyone will see that.
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My determination wasn’t off of one game.
But that’ wasn’t my point. I keep reading same comments from same posters saying the super star of the Raiders is on the bench. or how he’s a star and being held back.
All I’m saying is NO ONE can state that nor can they state he’s a bust.
Why are some of you putting him on this huge pedestal, when he’s done nothing? Aren’t you setting yourself up to try and explain yourself if he’s not all that?
isn’t it more prudent to just wait and see, and then place your bets?
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Super star!! show me one post saying he’s a super star of any kind. Show me one post saying he’s a star . All anyone has said is I think he can play in this league at a high level and bringa an added dimension I’m excited to see what he can do is given the chance. I read most people speculating he should change positions now does that bother you as much as my viewpoint?
Look lets settle this thing……….we just want to see the kid in action plain and simple. Elevate his status to #2 and give him some snaps and lets see what’s there……….where is the harm in that given our record? Obviously NO One wants to see Leinart at least they haven’t said it. I know I’ve seen all of Leinart I want to see especially for this team.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
the_kid101 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
We cant keep moaning about how we lost Hue.
He’s gone. He aint coming back. Probably ever.
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What if someone does keep moaning about how we lost Hue?
Any suggestions?
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My suggestion would be to stop beating your head against the wall homie.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Like it or not you’re an idiot, becaus eyou don’t know the kid nor do you know his situation. But that doesn’t matter you don’t like him so therefore he’s an idiot…………..idiot!
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LOL. You’re such a feeble little punk.
you’re such a jackass you would let any athlete do anything to anyone at anytime, just because you are so starstruck. Any athlete has you creaming yourself, all desperate to pretend you know what’s going on.
Listen up, dumbass. He stupidly signed thousands of autographs, while getting paid to do so. Drove cars that he obviously didn’t buy, and then flaunted it all by driving up to the school the one day HE KNEW HUNDREDS OF CAMERA’S WERE THERE BECAUSE OF THE HEAD COACHES RESIGNATION.
You, being a fellow idiot of TP, makes excuses for him.
You stating he’s NOT an idiot for what he did makes you about as big a dumbass as possible.
BTW, punk, he stated he was an IDIOT FOR WHAT HE DID, AND REGRETS IT, AND APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
Now STFU, you decrepit joke.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Super Dawg just cut a Lawg all over the couch. Took four of my posse to lift it out of there and toss it out the window. Goes to show what eatin a whole turkey will do for ya. Word.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Goodell sent a message. A correct message. If you cheat in school, and get caught, don’t think you’re going to just drop out of school, and make yourself eligible for the NFL, and not take your punishment.
You’re just way to lenient and seem to believe players are gods, and should be allowed to do whatever, to whomever.
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When in the history of this league have you seen such a message. That is NOT his job he doesn’t work for the NCAA he works for the NFL and to help NFL teams be successful…………he obviously overstepped his bounds to say anything else is disingenuous.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
All Ive heard talked about this week is Hue Jax and how we want him back, blah blah.. Why not talk about how we are going to march into Cincinatti come Sunday, and wipe that dorky grin off his face!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RIP Larry “JR Ewing” Hagman.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
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Super star!! show me one post saying he’s a super star of any kind. Show me one post saying he’s a star . All anyone has said is I think he can play in this league at a high level and bringa an added dimension I’m excited to see what he can do is given the chance.
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In other words, when you sign on, you only read the comments during your exchange? OBVIOUSLY THAT’S SO, BECAUSE IF YOU DID READ THE THREADS, even back a little bit, you would see numerous comments from different posters on how this star in the making isn’t allowed to play.
Because you usually back down and disappear when challenged on anything, or just pretend you can’t read it, I’ll wait until you post another comment about how noone has built him up, before I embarrass you with pastes of posters all po’ed because they aren’t allowed to see the “future” play.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
How yawl doin in here. Long time listener, first time caller. Any blog goobs got any hot tips on how to remove duece stains off the wall? Got a little to wild with the fellas last night. Got into some crazy schiit. Anyway, love this blog. Go Raiders!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Has Pryor done anything idiotic sense joining the Raiders?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Goodell sent a message. A correct message. If you cheat in school, and get caught, don’t think you’re going to just drop out of school, and make yourself eligible for the NFL, and not take your punishment.
You’re just way to lenient and seem to believe players are gods, and should be allowed to do whatever, to whomever.
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When in the history of this league have you seen such a message. That is NOT his job he doesn’t work for the NCAA he works for the NFL and to help NFL teams be successful…………he obviously overstepped his bounds to say anything else is disingenuous.
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Go look up the word integrity.
That is what Goodell is protecting, as he should.
Yeah, he should butt out of NCAA, which HE DID.
But when a suspended player switches to play with the big boys, and the big boys just welcome the cheater with open arms?
Means no integrity.
Something I’ve come to find out you also lack.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
the_kid101 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
All Ive heard talked about this week is Hue Jax and how we want him back, blah blah.. Why not talk about how we are going to march into Cincinatti come Sunday, and wipe that dorky grin off his face!
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Probably because that is not going to happen. You seen our last three games?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Omoran is the smartest guy on this blog.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Has Pryor done anything idiotic sense joining the Raiders?
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Don’t believe he has. Wisely has learned his lesson, no doubt.
He also accepted the Comm’s punishment, as well, which he deserves credit for.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
LOL. You’re such a feeble little punk.
you’re such a jackass you would let any athlete do anything to anyone at anytime, just because you are so starstruck. Any athlete has you creaming yourself, all desperate to pretend you know what’s going on.
Listen up, dumbass. He stupidly signed thousands of autographs, while getting paid to do so. Drove cars that he obviously didn’t buy, and then flaunted it all by driving up to the school the one day HE KNEW HUNDREDS OF CAMERA’S WERE THERE BECAUSE OF THE HEAD COACHES RESIGNATION.
You, being a fellow idiot of TP, makes excuses for him.
You stating he’s NOT an idiot for what he did makes you about as big a dumbass as possible.
BTW, punk, he stated he was an IDIOT FOR WHAT HE DID, AND REGRETS IT, AND APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
Now STFU, you decrepit joke.
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You can shut me up if you’d like, But I don’t think you can tough guy. The mere fact he owned it and apologized isn’t good enough for you though huh? You want to demonize that kid but let the HC go un punished why aren’t you as upset at the HC as the player the HC is 55 years old the kid is 21. Also that is the culture there in Ohio St Pryor didn’t start it and he wont stop it. They have doing that crap for 100 years yet he’s the only idiot almost 10 players wwere suspended along with Pryor yet he bore the brunt of it all. NOt the HC not another player just Pryor.
You seem to be especially hateful toward this kid and it shows your true colors.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Omoran is the smartest guy on this blog
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Did you mean if the two of you were the only ones on the blog?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
The 2nd string QB,in this case the 3rd string QB,is always the most popular player on any team.When you have a player playing at an All-Pro level,why would you want to bench him.Don’t the coaches see the back-ups in practice every day?Don’t they have a good idea of what they have in a player?This idea of we(fans) need to see him so we know what we have is ridiculous.We,the fans,don’t make decisions or decide who is on the roster.We’re just fans.Too many people on here don’t seem to understand this concept.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
the_kid101 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
All Ive heard talked about this week is Hue Jax and how we want him back, blah blah.. Why not talk about how we are going to march into Cincinatti come Sunday, and wipe that dorky grin off his face!
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Yes. 6 game win streak to close out the season. It starts Sunday.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
LOL. You’re such a feeble little punk.
you’re such a jackass you would let any athlete do anything to anyone at anytime, just because you are so starstruck. Any athlete has you creaming yourself, all desperate to pretend you know what’s going on.
Listen up, dumbass. He stupidly signed thousands of autographs, while getting paid to do so. Drove cars that he obviously didn’t buy, and then flaunted it all by driving up to the school the one day HE KNEW HUNDREDS OF CAMERA’S WERE THERE BECAUSE OF THE HEAD COACHES RESIGNATION.
You, being a fellow idiot of TP, makes excuses for him.
You stating he’s NOT an idiot for what he did makes you about as big a dumbass as possible.
BTW, punk, he stated he was an IDIOT FOR WHAT HE DID, AND REGRETS IT, AND APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
Now STFU, you decrepit joke.
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You can shut me up if you’d like, But I don’t think you can tough guy. The mere fact he owned it and apologized isn’t good enough for you though huh? You want to demonize that kid but let the HC go un punished why aren’t you as upset at the HC as the player the HC is 55 years old the kid is 21. Also that is the culture there in Ohio St Pryor didn’t start it and he wont stop it. They have doing that crap for 100 years yet he’s the only idiot almost 10 players wwere suspended along with Pryor yet he bore the brunt of it all. NOt the HC not another player just Pryor.
You seem to be especially hateful toward this kid and it shows your true colors.
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LOL.
You are slow, aren’t you?
Read it again.
I have no problems with TP. Problem is with your ignorant ass who keeps making excuses for him. Cussing out the NFL for even to daring to punish someone who should be punished.
It’s you, moron.
Not TP.
He’s learned his lesson.
I don’t think you are capable of learning much..to be honest.
Look at you with your drunk rants. “How dare they hold him back.” “They’re just trying to keep him down.”
What’s worse than an old drunk?
A racist pos old drunk.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
It has to get worse before it can get better
Code: Ripping of the Band-Aid
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Omoran is the smartest guy on this blog
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Did you mean if the two of you were the only ones on the blog?
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No jackass. Omoran speaks the truth. Guys like you are just blowing smoke out your ass.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Yes, we are fans.
And this is a blog man.
People are going throw ideas out there. Isn’t that what this forum is about????
Palmer is not playing All Pro Football. You’ve got to be kidding me.
I’ve seen most people say move Pryor to #2. Play him in blowouts. Let him play the last 3 or 4 games.
I haven’t seen anyone say start Pryor this weekend.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Goodell protecting integrity……..what a laugh when he gets some integrity himself so he understands what it means then shove people around. He had no jurisdiction over Pryor when those sanctions were handed down. That is the NCAA’s problem never before has a player been suspended for what they did in the college……….he made an example out of taht kid to curry favor, integrity what a joke!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I don’t think TP IS an idiot, but the on-field quotes about Vick and murderers was maybe the most idiotic on-field interview I ever heard.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:32 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
The 2nd string QB,in this case the 3rd string QB,is always the most popular player on any team.When you have a player playing at an All-Pro level,why would you want to bench him.Don’t the coaches see the back-ups in practice every day?Don’t they have a good idea of what they have in a player?This idea of we(fans) need to see him so we know what we have is ridiculous.We,the fans,don’t make decisions or decide who is on the roster.We’re just fans.Too many people on here don’t seem to understand this concept.
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You hit it exactly on the head.
I’ve read not one, or two, but numerous posters stating “WHY WON’T THEY LET US SEE HIM PLAY”??
I kind of wait for the punchline, because I can’t believe the poster is serious, but they are.
Last thing a coach is going to do is put someone in the game, unless they impressed the hell out of them in practice. If you struggle in practice, you don’t stand a chance in a game, IMO.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Jhill, it never stops in here it’s constant verbal abuse of his smarts and decisions and so forth ******************* SPEARCHUCKER AVG IQ = 70….which is border\line retard….just the facts!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I’ve got nothing against TP. But man what makes anyone think the WRs won’t drop his passes when they’ve dropped thousands of Palmer’s passes?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I’ve got nothing against TP. But man what makes anyone think the WRs won’t drop his passes when they’ve dropped thousands of Palmer’s passes?
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This isn’t the point at all, we want to see hi play dropped passes or not………..play the kid!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
You got a problem,J Hill?Come right out with it!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Goodell protecting integrity……..what a laugh when he gets some integrity himself so he understands what it means then shove people around. He had no jurisdiction over Pryor when those sanctions were handed down. That is the NCAA’s problem never before has a player been suspended for what they did in the college……….he made an example out of taht kid to curry favor, integrity what a joke!!!
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Read. Comprehend. then post.
Why do this to yourself?
Why do you just gloss over things, then repeat yourself, when it’s already been said? Makes you look slow.
HE WASN’T SUSPENDED FOR WHAT HE DID IN COLLEGE. he wasn’t allowed to be promoted until he served that suspension.
Geez. can’t believe I have to draw you a picture.
IF GOODELL DOESN’T MAKE A PLAYER SERVE HIS PENALTY BEFORE COMING TO THE NFL, THEN THAT TELLS EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN COLLEGE IF YOU CAUGHT CAUGHT DOING ANYTHING, JUST QUIT SCHOOL, AND MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE FOR THE NFL. THEN LAUGH AT YOUR COLLEGE, AND THUMB YOUR NOSE AT RULES. The precedent set says it’s ok.
THE FACT GOODELL DID WHAT HE DID TELLS EVERY COLLEGE KID IT’S NOT OK, AND THAT THE NFL ISN’T THE PLACE WHERE SCOFFLAWS CAN RUN TO WHEN CAUGHT.
That make any sense to you at all, TJpr?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Jhill, it never stops in here it’s constant verbal abuse of his smarts and decisions and so forth ******************* SPEARCHUCKER AVG IQ = 70….which is border\line retard….just the facts!
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Boy I read no anger from you haters about this kind of stuff it seems to fit right in………lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
How bout that Ghost……your aryan brother keeping it real for ya’?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
359,
I don’t think anyone is really suggesting we will all of a sudden start winning.
I believe the thought is that IF we are out of it…and it looks like we will be officially eliminated soon, then why not throw Pryor out there to see what he can do.
If the season is lost than I don’t see the harm.
Whether the Raider brass and the coaches feel the same way is yet to be determined.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I’ve got nothing against TP. But man what makes anyone think the WRs won’t drop his passes when they’ve dropped thousands of Palmer’s passes?
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This isn’t the point at all, we want to see hi play dropped passes or not………..play the kid!!
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I know but what about these young WRs and their progression. You don’t think its better for them to learn under a vet QB? Even if this season is over?
Remember the last time we paired rookie QB with rookie Wrs?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Pryor doesn’t have the arm talent to be an immediate success. That’s why he was a mid 3rd round pick. And spare me the supp draft excuse, EVERY OTHER QB taken in the supp draft was picked in the first round (Kosar, Dave Wilson, Dave Brown, Steve Walsh, Timm Rosenbaugh)
No matter when and where he plays, his first 5-7 games are going to be absolutely brutal.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
You guys get a chance to burn any crosses tonite?Times a wastin’………..lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I’ve got nothing against TP. But man what makes anyone think the WRs won’t drop his passes when they’ve dropped thousands of Palmer’s passes?
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This isn’t the point at all, we want to see hi play dropped passes or not………..play the kid!!
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This is the ignorance mentioned above by another poster, and echoed by me. You actually are indignant because YOU want to ’see the kid play’??
Really?
You really think coaches of NFL team, or any for that matter, puts in a player who struggles in practice (or is down the ladder) just because a casual fan wants to see him?
Just for YOUR satisfaction, they should put in a player?
Amazing some of the things you ramble on about..seriously.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Priest,I ignore morons like that just like I ignore Mystics racist rants.Answering them just encourages more of the same.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
THE TRUTH HURTS…AND IM MR. PAIN
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
It’s pretty obvious that Suh can stomp a dudes arm or James Harrison can try to rip someone’s head off, and no matter the punishment, the NFLPA will appeal and support the players appeal, pay for his lawyers, etc.
With Pryor’s situation, they stood as far away from it as possible.
They wanted to go quietly into the night. So did Pryor (I commend him for that). Says all you need to know
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
You guys get a chance to burn any crosses tonite?Times a wastin’………..lol
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Racist P O S pu nk
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
You guys get a chance to burn any crosses tonite? === CHECK YOUR FRONT LAWN
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
JFB of course they didn’t have the baggage that kid had no one knew if he would stand up to the criticism. Why take him that high when you don’t have to, I said b4 that draft that he should be picked in the 3rd rnd because of his situation.
If Pryor had played his senior year even sitting out 5 games he would have gone a lot higher. The supp draft was announced really late and teams had 2 weeks to prepare for it which also contributed to that. So it makes sense really even given his talent.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Nothing yet, I’ll alert the authorities
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Batman Delivers Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
the_kid101 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
All Ive heard talked about this week is Hue Jax and how we want him back, blah blah.. Why not talk about how we are going to march into Cincinatti come Sunday, and wipe that dorky grin off his face!
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Probably because that is not going to happen. You seen our last three games?
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I know, I know… BUT
You can’t go into gameday with that type of mentality. You trying to jinx us or what, dude?
That defeatist attitude aint getting you nowhere! HA!
You can’t be a pitbull with a poodle mentality.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Sacks ain’t coming, it’s too late to make a difference anyway.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
How bout that Ghost……your aryan brother keeping it real for ya’?
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Read above.
I guaranteed some little worm, in response to my comments about TP’s stupid decisions, would play the race card.
And of course, it’s from the biggest racist P O S on the board.
I said nothing anyone could say is racist.
When you get slammed like a little boy, and you have NOTHING IN REPLY, YOU THEN START WITH THE RACIST COMMENTS, which is basically you waving the white flag.
You’re bitter. You’re small. You’re old. and you’re rather dense.
Whew, lol, what a combo.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
California Now Leads Poverty Rankings
Lots of folks back East, they say, is leavin’ home every day,
Beatin’ the hot old dusty way to the California line.
‘Cross the desert sands they roll, gettin’ out of that old dust bowl,
They think they’re goin’ to a sugar bowl, but here’s what they find
Now, the police at the port of entry say,
“You’re number fourteen thousand for today.”
Oh, if you ain’t got the do re mi, folks, you ain’t got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won’t find it so hot
If you ain’t got the do re mi.
You want to buy you a home or a farm, that can’t deal nobody harm,
Or take your vacation by the mountains or sea.
Don’t swap your old cow for a car, you better stay right where you are,
Better take this little tip from me.
‘Cause I look through the want ads every day
But the headlines on the papers always say:
If you ain’t got the do re mi, boys, you ain’t got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won’t find it so hot
If you ain’t got the do re mi.–Woody Guthrie
California Now Leads Poverty Rankings
Neil Munro – Daily Caller
Golden State turns to lead, now leads poverty rankings | The Daily Caller
The Golden State has reached a poverty rate that is now twice as bad as West Virginia’s and substantially worse than the rates of poverty in Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and Texas, according to a new measure of poverty developed by the federal Census Bureau. Democrat-run California earned its last-place rank under the federal government’s new measure of poverty, which incorporates more detailed analyses of welfare payments and the local costs of food, gasoline and housing.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Tell us again, TJpriest, how ‘I WANT TO SEE HIM PLAY. I WANT TO. I WANNNNNNT TOOOOOO!!!”
I promise we won’t laugh.
For too long.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Priest,I ignore morons like that just like I ignore Mystics racist rants.Answering them just encourages more of the same.
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Same here Lefty12, But Mistic1 catches a lot more hell than this guy does and it aint close.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Jim Schwartz was born in Maryland. He went to school at Georgetown.
WHY DOES HE HAVE A COUNTRY ACCENT?
I guess it’s just a “coaches” accent?
It’s just weird and makes no sense.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I dunno, Sunday’s game is pretty important to the remains of our team. Palmer needs to rally to show the world that he was worth it after Cincy “wronged” him.
The current reggiem NEEDS to prove that they were right in letting HUE Jaks go and bring “their-guy” in.
It will all show on Sunday. Imagine what would happen if we lose; how will the reggiem justify everything?
Not the time to let TP play–maybe later on…
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
TJ?
Did you read 362?
Need help?
It’s kind of kindergarten friendly.
I can make the letters uppercase, if that will help?
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
TJ?
Did you read 362?
Need help?
It’s kind of kindergarten friendly.
I can make the letters uppercase, if that will help?
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It’s OK jethro I’m busy!
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Priest,
Do you think our young and our rookie WR’s development would suffer under a rookie QB? Albeit a more mobile one.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I dunno, Sunday’s game is pretty important to the remains of our team. Palmer needs to rally to show the world that he was worth it after Cincy “wronged” him.
The current reggiem NEEDS to prove that they were right in letting HUE Jaks go and bring “their-guy” in.
It will all show on Sunday. Imagine what would happen if we lose; how will the reggiem justify everything?
Not the time to let TP play–maybe later on…
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Raidertalk that is whta most people are saying…….I couldn’t justify Pryor starting Sunday.
But I want to see him once we are eliminated.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Some people…geeez
Integrity & the nfl should never be mentioned in the same breath. The nfl is enetertainment business and it has no integrity. Steroids drug abuse peds’ , concussion cover ups, mental health scandals, wife beaters, murder suspects & so on.
None of that matters as long as you can score tds or tackle.
Pryor was suspended by the nfl without cause , & tressle walked right into a job at the same time.
Pryor was vilified and it’s just another case of…. Well I think you know.
By the way save this bull shid about ” most raider fans don’t care about skin color” that is a lie, & has been exposed time and again on this blog.
Most fans on this blog want white leadership & can’t stand he idea of black people now getting opportunities to play qb & taking jobs from white guys.
Guys like Johnny jfb Mac 20 lefty lofty & so on all color struck
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Priest,
Do you think our young and our rookie WR’s development would suffer under a rookie QB? Albeit a more mobile one.
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Sure there will be some of that but that is the price you pay we need to get this kid some snaps and after we’re out why not take advantage?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Last year many of the same people that are begging to see Pryor play NOW were saying the best thing for him would be to just hold that clipboard,sit,and learn for at least a couple of years,much like Rodgers did in GB.Such is the way of fickle fans.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
You got a problem,J Hill?Come right out with it!
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???????????
Come right out with what?
I think Pryor should be #2 and play in blowouts.
YOU have a problem with anyone mentioning Pryor getting snaps.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Culture follows race.
Replace whites with Mexicans and you will have a place that looks, sounds, smells, and is about as prosperous as Mexico.
Replace whites with simians and you will have another Haiti, except with a more impressive skyline and infrastructure (for the first couple of decades).
If 50,000 square miles of Mexico were given over exclusively to white people from England, after several decades it would be England with nicer weather.
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Separation is a Human Right.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Bungled bowl is the biggest game of Carson’s career hands down. He can’t afford another flop job.
What does cincy think of Carson? The game didn’t even sell out lol.
Brown told him to kick rocks & dalton quickly made the fans media and coaches forget all about that diva Palmer.
The team he quit on has properd the team ha took over has regressed beyond recognition. If he falls to 3-8 and misses the playoffs for a second straight year he would validate browns refusal to cater to his whims.
Carson is a fraud and only these bloggers fail to accept this. He simple will not be relevant after bungles bowl, it’s his last gasp at being important.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
don’t you white people have anything better to do than waste your time over baboons chasing a leather watermelon?…no wonder this country is going to h3ll.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Only in this blog people b!tch and moan about losing an average OC who failed to even get a job on his side of expertise, only in here people b1tch and moan about not giving their third string qb some playing time, only in here people just wants the team to lose because they have an agenda against one of the players on this team, only in here people start believing this team was onto something after beating weak freaking teams the year before, only in here people fail to realize that our biggest weakness is the D and no matter how good the O was, we would have lost as many games due to the POS talent we have on the other side
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
The team he quit on has properd the team ha took over has regressed beyond recognition. If he falls to 3-8 and misses the playoffs for a second straight year he would validate browns refusal to cater to his whims.
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I’ll tell anyone here, if we go to 3-8 the coaches will start looking around to play all the young talent. Because the heat will be soo hot from the fans Palmer even would start feeling a turn on him. That is an ugly record when considering where we were last year.
Even Palmer fans would start becoming less interested in his #’s and focus on the record. He almost has to win this game somehow. And for sure he cannot be a viewed as a contributer to the loss. He has to play very well and we need a win.
3-8 ugggh man that is piss poor!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Some people…geeez
Integrity & the nfl should never be mentioned in the same breath. The nfl is enetertainment business and it has no integrity. Steroids drug abuse peds’ , concussion cover ups, mental health scandals, wife beaters, murder suspects & so on.
None of that matters as long as you can score tds or tackle.
Pryor was suspended by the nfl without cause , & tressle walked right into a job at the same time.
Pryor was vilified and it’s just another case of…. Well I think you know.
By the way save this bull shid about ” most raider fans don’t care about skin color” that is a lie, & has been exposed time and again on this blog.
Most fans on this blog want white leadership & can’t stand he idea of black people now getting opportunities to play qb & taking jobs from white guys.
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I have bad news for you.
Most fans on this blog don’t care about the color of the qb.
Except for a few black posters.
Oh, I’m sorry. You missed that.
YOU KEEP POSTING HOW MOST POSTERS HERE ARE WHITE AND DON’T LIKE BLACKS.
Of course everyone calls you a coward, and a liar.
Everyone.
Your reply “MOST POSTERS HERE ARE WHITE AND DON’T LIKE BLACKS.”
It’s the rant of the meek. Those who can’t stand up on their own cry out “I’M BEING PICKED ON, AND MY FAILURES ARE NOT MY FAULT.”
Sucks to be you dude. lol
Want to see something scary?
Fact forward a few decades, and there you are, just like TJpriest.
Bitter. Old. Huge chip on shoulder. hating white people.
Yep, sucks to be you.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Priest,
Do you think our young and our rookie WR’s development would suffer under a rookie QB? Albeit a more mobile one.
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Sure there will be some of that but that is the price you pay we need to get this kid some snaps and after we’re out why not take advantage?
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Hey at least we have some hope on offense (possibility of Pryor). The Defense on the other hand is black hole of despair. We need some talent on that side badly
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
J Hill,I’m not anti Pryor.I don’t want to see Leinart or him.I want to see the team doing everything possible to win with the best players on the roster-even in one-sided games.Next year if he proves during camps and pre-season he is the best option,i want to see him.I want to see him get almost every snap in every pre-season game.But once the season starts,I want the starters to play.I pay too damn much money going to games to watch the back-ups.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
If Carson has a solid game?
Raider win?
Will be funny as hell seeing all the crow served to the Carson haters.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Bungled bowl is the biggest game of Carson’s career hands down. He can’t afford another flop job.
What does cincy think of Carson? The game didn’t even sell out lol.
Brown told him to kick rocks & dalton quickly made the fans media and coaches forget all about that diva Palmer.
The team he quit on has properd the team ha took over has regressed beyond recognition. If he falls to 3-8 and misses the playoffs for a second straight year he would validate browns refusal to cater to his whims.
Carson is a fraud and only these bloggers fail to accept this. He simple will not be relevant after bungles bowl, it’s his last gasp at being important.
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Bears are a good team 7-2 they came to play against 6-2-1 Whiners , but they got crushed 32-7 ? really just 1 freaking pathetic TD by your favorite QB Jason Campbell and total of 105 yards passing , which comes down to 55 yards because he’s too slow to think fast and avoid sacks by their DE, who almost set a new record for sacks by an individual in a single regular season game
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
People really should grow up & stop being so naive.
In no way is pro football or any pro sport a refuge or sanctuary free from the ills that plague society in amerikkka.
Stop acting as if the nfl is righteous or just in any way …. It isn’t.
The only reason black people are lowed to play at all is because white owners saw that we are good at it and could help them win.
This is not equality. There was no moral epiphany or good will or humanitarian motivation.
Cold blooded dollars and cents made that happen and that is what is driving it today as well.
Same as so called honest abe with the proclomAtion, it was strictly a business decision
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
If Carson has a solid game?
Raider win?
Will be funny as hell seeing all the crow served to the Carson haters.
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And winning in spite of knapp.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Mistic is a racist jackass.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
389,
By the way save this bull shid about ” most raider fans don’t care about skin color” that is a lie, & has been exposed time and again on this blog.
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It is YOU who have led the charge of seeing only skin color with the constant talking up of ONLY black qb’s.
You think everyone is stupid enough not to see what you are doing when it’s obvious.
Look at yourself in the mirror before you accuse others of racism.
It is YOU with the racial agenda and it always has been.
This is a Raider blog and you use it to spew your racist agenda of black qb superiority.
No Raider fan would openly admit you are rooting against the team like you do.
YOU are a fan of black qb’s…period. It’s obvious in everything you write, and you are so paranoid that u don’t even accept when someone else likes them too.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
If Carson has a solid game?
Raider win?
Will be funny as hell seeing all the crow served to the Carson haters.
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That’s 1 miserable week off non stop sleep days for Mistic, I don’t know he might even commit suicide if that happens, that’s just how much he hates Palmer
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
When you have even ONE player who isn’t sure what he should be doing, you have a recipe for injuries.
Yet here we have posters saying that shouldn’t matter?
That we should just, FOR FUN, put in a person who shouldn’t be in there, who for no other reason except fans want to see if he’ll suck or not, throws a ball too high, hanging a receiver out to dry, who takes a vicious hit?
Aren’t we thankful head coaches, even the dimmest of them, are brighter than some of those here, who just want players, any players thrown in, just to “see them play”?
Don’t you who state that realize how stupid that sounds?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
I want to see DHB,not Hagan.I want to see McFadden,not Stewart.I want to see Huff,not Gio.I want to see Wiz,not his back-up.The list goes on.Get the picture?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Pryor was suspended by the nfl without cause , & tressle walked right into a job at the same time.
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Tressle faced a 7 game suspension to Pryor’s 5 games.
ALWAYS making shat up dude, ALWAYS.
Tell us again about that “deep strike” that Ford caught from Jason Campbell in the 4th quarter of the RAms game again. That was a hoot.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Bears are a good team 7-2 they came to play against 6-2-1 Whiners , but they got crushed 32-7 ? really just 1 freaking pathetic TD by your favorite QB Jason Campbell and total of 105 yards passing , which comes down to 55 yards because he’s too slow to think fast and avoid sacks by their DE, who almost set a new record for sacks by an individual in a single regular season game
1 freaking TD with Matt Forte and B Marshall to throw to whole game against
1 FG when he needed a TD to beat Houston the entire 2nd half, didn’t even get near a FG range when in the last drive
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Macscunbag
Where did I say jc was my favorite qb?
He is better raided qb than that fruad Palmer
Just check he record lol
7-13 33 turnovers…. Putrid
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
When you have even ONE player who isn’t sure what he should be doing, you have a recipe for injuries.
Yet here we have posters saying that shouldn’t matter?
That we should just, FOR FUN, put in a person who shouldn’t be in there, who for no other reason except fans want to see if he’ll suck or not, throws a ball too high, hanging a receiver out to dry, who takes a vicious hit?
Aren’t we thankful head coaches, even the dimmest of them, are brighter than some of those here, who just want players, any players thrown in, just to “see them play”?
Don’t you who state that realize how stupid that sounds?
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He’s not even a fan of Raiders, he’s a pathetic troll , wouldn’t surprise me if he turns out to a closet whiners fan after all the dust has been cleared
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
The only reason black people are lowed to play at all is because white owners saw that we are good at it and could help them win.
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WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. OH BOOOO HOOOOO….I IS JUS A POOR BLACK BOY DAT IS BEING EXPLOITED….FEEL SORRY FOR ME…I’M JUST A WEAK MINION.”
You’re so pathetic, man.
Are you a man?
Sometimes I swear you are a woman. Big, fat, sloppy, stanky, unkempt woman, purse at the ready to swing.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Only in this blog people b!tch and moan about losing an average OC who failed to even get a job on his side of expertise, only in here people b1tch and moan about not giving their third string qb some playing time, only in here people just wants the team to lose because they have an agenda against one of the players on this team, only in here people start believing this team was onto something after beating weak freaking teams the year before, only in here people fail to realize that our biggest weakness is the D and no matter how good the O was, we would have lost as many games due to the POS talent we have on the other side
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While partly I can agree, you do realize we had to settle for something a whole lot worse. Hue woulda been better season two. No question. We were poised for a new DC and then we’re off. But no. We got stuck with a pile of dung in his place. So yeah, it seems appropriate to complain. That’s why this blog is so great. Steve and Jer know this. Any other mod woulda shut this place down long ago.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Did tressle work for the colts?
Yes or no
Jfb a noted racist
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Macscunbag
Where did I say jc was my favorite qb?
He is better raided qb than that fruad Palmer
Just check he record lol
7-13 33 turnovers…. Putrid
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M1sssupab1tch
1 freaking TD , 105 yards in whole game, almost put Aldon Smith in the hall of fame with his slowness, 12 QB rating a few years ago
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
He is better raided qb than that fruad Palmer
Just check he record lol
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But somehow I can’t get you to accept the same methodology to why Andy Dalton is a massively better QB than Cam Newton.
Strange.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Did tressle work for the colts?
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Did Pryor “work” for the Raiders?
Yes, and he start recieving an NFL salary before Tressel did.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
When you have even ONE player who isn’t sure what he should be doing, you have a recipe for injuries.
Yet here we have posters saying that shouldn’t matter?
That we should just, FOR FUN, put in a person who shouldn’t be in there, who for no other reason except fans want to see if he’ll suck or not, throws a ball too high, hanging a receiver out to dry, who takes a vicious hit?
Aren’t we thankful head coaches, even the dimmest of them, are brighter than some of those here, who just want players, any players thrown in, just to “see them play”?
Don’t you who state that realize how stupid that sounds?
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He’s not even a fan of Raiders, he’s a pathetic troll , wouldn’t surprise me if he turns out to a closet whiners fan after all the dust has been cleared
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It’s obvious he’s not a Raider fan. No one wonders that, regardless of him coming on with his “oh, but I am….I’M JUST TIRED OF BLAH BLAH RACE BLAH WHITE BOY BLAH CROSS TO BURN..BLAH BLAH”
What’s sad is someone, probably his Dad, dumped all this racist crap on him as a young kid, and here’s the result.
No one wonders if the same happened to TJPriest. Obviously he was tainted 60 years ago, and look at him now..Mistic Plus30.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Ghost your are an idiot
Don’t confuse recounting history for complaining
There is no morality or integrity in sports & you can’t convince any knowledgable honest person there is.
Beleive me the only years you will see on my face will be tears of joy when I’m dancing over the severed heads of my enemies
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Only in this blog people b!tch and moan about losing an average OC who failed to even get a job on his side of expertise, only in here people b1tch and moan about not giving their third string qb some playing time, only in here people just wants the team to lose because they have an agenda against one of the players on this team, only in here people start believing this team was onto something after beating weak freaking teams the year before, only in here people fail to realize that our biggest weakness is the D and no matter how good the O was, we would have lost as many games due to the POS talent we have on the other side
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While partly I can agree, you do realize we had to settle for something a whole lot worse. Hue woulda been better season two. No question. We were poised for a new DC and then we’re off. But no. We got stuck with a pile of dung in his place. So yeah, it seems appropriate to complain. That’s why this blog is so great. Steve and Jer know this. Any other mod woulda shut this place down long ago.
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But like i said no DC would have done sh1t, they have two guys working on that side DA and Tarver and they can’t fix anything because there isn’t 1 guy who can get to qb, how was just 1 guy going to turn that team D into 1985 Bears?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Tressel isn’t blamed for what happened in OSU like Pryor is people act as if Pryor acted on his own accord.
The commish is extremely hard on black players , case in point how do you suspend Reed one of the most respected players in this league for a mistake then when the heat is on back off……………is THAT integrity?? If it is it does not ressemble the dictionaries description. The commish goes way too far on too many occasions suspends a player for a year and it turns out with out just cause……..INTEGRITY what a joke!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Cam Newton 2-8 Record, does anyone remember the last #1 QB leading his team to another #1 in 2 years or less
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Didn’t Jason Campbell have a game against the Niners where his rating was 9.6? Another game his rating was 19?
Awesome Job Jason.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
I was as for Palmer as you were to start the season, Lefty.
The Atl game and Tampa Bay game really soured me on him. Had a lot of my friends who hate Palmer in my ear after those picks, and hey, it was hard to argue.
Talk about defensive players giving up, how do you think they feel about the QB who keeps throwing game ending picks?
We could have been 5-3 at one point without the INTS. Yeah, we could have been 5-3 with a lot of other people doing their jobs better too. No arguing that.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
I havnt posted anything racist
You only want to say I have to deflect the facts from what your people have done
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Didn’t Jason Campbell have a game against the Niners where his rating was 9.6? Another game his rating was 19?
Awesome Job Jason.
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yeah it was 12
and
Cam Newton 2-8 , has it ever happened that a #1 drafted qb led his team back to #1 pick in less than 2 years?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Sorry TJPr…you are not allowed to even type the word integrity.
You are an admitted race monger.
You’re idea of fair play is to spread your racist BS.
Bitter small cowardly punks just don’t matter.
Just the way it is.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 pm
I’ve read on here that doing the same thing over and over again is insanity…
I guess that would include the J.C vs Palmer debate. lol
Give it up folks. Palmer was rated higher coming out of college and Palmer would still be taken over J.C any day of the week by most, if not all GM’s.
The reason he won was do to the fact that he had a great running game behind him. Palmer has yet to benefit from any ground game at all.
End of story.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
I was as for Palmer as you were to start the season, Lefty.
The Atl game and Tampa Bay game really soured me on him. Had a lot of my friends who hate Palmer in my ear after those picks, and hey, it was hard to argue.
Talk about defensive players giving up, how do you think they feel about the QB who keeps throwing game ending picks?
We could have been 5-3 at one point without the INTS. Yeah, we could have been 5-3 with a lot of other people doing their jobs better too. No arguing that.
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WE know he’s not perfect, but you are just giving more ammunition for obvious guy in here with an Agenda to stay here even more longer, he’s not even a Raiders fan, all he wants is black QB’s starting in the league all over
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Let’s clear this up for all uneducated white folks and others.
Race is a concept invented by WHITE PEOPLE
It was invented specifically to distinguish western europeans from Afrikaans as a way to create justification for the slave trade. It is a completly made up mechanism or machination for tr sloe purpose of dehumanizing people for their mistreatment.
Therefore there is only 1 race the white race
There is only 1 racist white racist
Racism is an exclusive property of white people
Look it up
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Ghost your are an idiot
Don’t confuse recounting history for complaining
There is no morality or integrity in sports & you can’t convince any knowledgable honest person there is.
Beleive me the only years you will see on my face will be tears of joy when I’m dancing over the severed heads of my enemies
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Mistic1 This guy here is hollow upstairs if you know what I mean. Internet tough he is….let the networks say to Goodell we’ll give you an extra billion if you make more of an example out of these black thugs I bet he’d suspend a player per week. That is where his integrity lies. This stuff is as corrupt as boxing ever was I watched the Warriors get hosed tonite and no one can tell me it was on purpose……..No ONE!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I want to see DHB,not Hagan.I want to see McFadden,not Stewart.I want to see Huff,not Gio.I want to see Wiz,not his back-up.The list goes on.Get the picture?
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I want to see Streater and Criner.
I want to see Bergstrom, Gordon, Ausberry, and Bilukidi.
Get the picture?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
DON”T FEED THE WHINERS LOVER , He just wants black qbs starting for every team , he could care less if they win or not ,
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Ghost your are an idiot
Don’t confuse recounting history for complaining
There is no morality or integrity in sports & you can’t convince any knowledgable honest person there is.
Beleive me the only years you will see on my face will be tears of joy when I’m dancing over the severed heads of my enemies ************ LIKE HAITI?…THE CESSPOOL OF THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE…THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR KIND TAKE OVER = EPIC FAILURE
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
I want to see Goodson!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
People really should grow up & stop being so naive.
In no way is pro football or any pro sport a refuge or sanctuary free from the ills that plague society in amerikkka.
Stop acting as if the nfl is righteous or just in any way …. It isn’t.
The only reason black people are lowed to play at all is because white owners saw that we are good at it and could help them win.
This is not equality. There was no moral epiphany or good will or humanitarian motivation.
Cold blooded dollars and cents made that happen and that is what is driving it today as well.
Same as so called honest abe with the proclomAtion, it was strictly a business decision
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It is the same reason the “white owners” let ANYBODY play. White or black.
I don’t understand where you’re going with those comments.
What is the approach that you would prefer from the white owners?
Isn’t the fairest thing to play the athletes that you give you the best chance to win? I don’t get what you’re saying.
Are u suggesting that they DON’T play the black players?
So they are damned if they DO play them and racist if they don’t?
You gotta make up your mind. Which is it.
White owners only play black players cuz it helps them win. Uhhh yeah. What other reason would they?
What other reason would they play ANYONE OF ANY COLOR?
You’re just rambling with your head spinning around not even making sense.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Racism can be invented by anyone that doesn’t mean the other races can’t be racist like you towards whites, who rather be write in your assessment of Palmer (who is black ) then have us win games, right Whiner lover?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
You better believe Palmer’s gonna take over the play calling come Sunday. I don’t think he’ll let Knapp screw that one up.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Pryor was suspended by the nfl without cause , & tressle walked right into a job at the same time.
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Tressle faced a 7 game suspension to Pryor’s 5 games.
ALWAYS making shat up dude, ALWAYS.
Tell us again about that “deep strike” that Ford caught from Jason Campbell in the 4th quarter of the RAms game again. That was a hoot.
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Didn’t he get suspended after TP received his suspension?
I blame the Vest for this fiasco. He should have suspended the players, and that would have been enough and NCAA would not be involved.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
right = write
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Where’s Brien need some common sense.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
but you are just giving more ammunition for obvious guy in here with an Agenda to stay here even more longer,
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You can’t be serious with this.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
and palmer is *white)not black , sorry level of IQ in here is doing that to me
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Let’s clear this up for all uneducated white folks and others.
Race is a concept invented by WHITE PEOPLE
It was invented specifically to distinguish western europeans from Afrikaans as a way to create justification for the slave trade. It is a completly made up mechanism or machination for tr sloe purpose of dehumanizing people for their mistreatment.
Therefore there is only 1 race the white race
There is only 1 racist white racist
Racism is an exclusive property of white people
Look it up ====== YOUR RIGHT!!! BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER BE OUR EQUAL…NEVER!!! EVER!!! WE INVENTED EVERYTHING AND ALL YOU DO IS TAKE!!! GIB ME DAT GIB ME DAT!!! WORTHLESS ANIMALS
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Go Buckeyes!
Damn you Mich!
Where is Preppie?
Free Preppie
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
J Hill,agreed Palmer could play better,i’ve never argued that.I just want to see the starters.If Pryor is better,make him the starter and I’m fine with that.I just don’t believe in sitting your starters.If they are healthy,they should play.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
but you are just giving more ammunition for obvious guy in here with an Agenda to stay here even more longer,
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You can’t be serious with this.
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Just keep feeding Mistic who rather have Palmer lose just so he can come in here and tell us i told you so, we all know Palmer isn’t perfect, but he’s doing a better job than most of the team is , we would be lucky to have 1 win if we had some other qb starting for us
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Al Davis hired the first latin and black head coaches in the league, yet some of the Raider fans till this day are the most ignorant and racist sounding imbeciles ever.
You’re not a Raider fan if you are a racist azzhole.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Good evening Hendu. Where have you been?
Raiders!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Mistic,
Then what do you call it when a person like you has a hatred for white people simply because of their color?
What word do you prefer to use to define that?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Ghost your are an idiot
Don’t confuse recounting history for complaining
There is no morality or integrity in sports & you can’t convince any knowledgable honest person there is.
Beleive me the only years you will see on my face will be tears of joy when I’m dancing over the severed heads of my enemies
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You don’t complain.
You whine like a little slapped on bich over nothing because you are a racist P O S.
you confused about that?
Yeah, anyone can read what happened where and when.
Bringing up things that don’t apply, on a football board, because you are a loser in life, and blame whitey, just makes you a small little bitter strain on society. That’s not history.
That’s YOU.
NOW.
I said any comm’s job is to do whatever he can to punish those who don’t abide, kick out those repeat offenders, and stay the course.
YOUR IGNORANT ASS IS SAYING HE SHOULDN’T DO ANYTHING? TO ANYONE? FOR ANYTHING?
Well? Back up your words, you spineless troll. (You and I know you won’t, because you know you’ll be left grasping).
Truly LMFAO at the “i’m going to dance on the severed heads of my enemies”. We’re talking about who’s the racist person on the board, and that’s your reply??
You don’t realize you just proved my point? THIS ISN’T ABOUT CP, OR TP, OR THE NFL.
It’s about you HATING YOUR ENEMY, WHITEY.
Your words, moron, lol.
BTW, out of all of the adj. I’ve called you?
Notice none were about color.
That’s your agenda, not mine.
You’re an idiot on your own accord.
Like taking candy from a baby.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
A team of ALL WHITES would wipe the field against a team of all spearchuckers….SMART WINS
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
I say so what if Mistic prefers black QBs.
I think some of you tend to focus on the black QBs he likes and don’t even acknowledge the white QBs he says he likes.
I just don’t get how liking black QBs and talking positively about them makes him a racist.
“Why are you talking about all these black QBs, Mistic?”
I mean, how retarded is that question?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Salam Raider O!
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
WIZ MAA FEEE OBOMO FONE??? = the peak of their intelligence
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Mistic1 I know where you’re coming from but racism existed for the past 5,000 years. If I were to go into it I could shock you with the origin of racism…….people think for instance the bible is a white man’s book. In actuality it is an oriental book from the outset later hebrew/aramic and then Jewish.
A caucasian never penned a single syllable in the bible old or new testament. It was translated by some caucasians as well as every master tongue on the earth.
Racism can largely be traced back to ancient asia ans So asia. They ruled first then Egyptians but some of the most racist people on earth are in fact asian decent. Then middle East those wars go back long before Alexander the great came along giving birth to white domination.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
There is no integrity in billion dollar corporate world of pro sports
There are no unicorns eater bunnies or Satan clause either.
Put your big boy pants on & face facts. Goodel is a puppet for the owners players are only valued as long as they can play not as human beings
Jim brown retired from football because during the negotiation of his contract the owner asked him ” what kind of negro could refuse this amount of money”?
Save the bs people.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
You weren’t as bad when you were FANGS! lol
WTF happened?
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Just keep feeding Mistic
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Stop it.
Mistic is far from alone on his hatred for Palmer.
And a lot more of us Raider fans are simply getting tired of the turnovers by the starting QB.
Probably would have 1 win???
Has anyone said Pryor should have been playing already?
Has anyone even said Pryor should start Sunday?
I’m going to post what I want. I don’t care whit aligns with.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Ghost I have never “blamed whitey”
I don’t fit your stereo type.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Still on this race thing huh.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
FANGS and A few other white folks are def racist on this blog Mistic is def a racist black guy on the blog, whats new.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Miami,
Salam habibi. lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
at least Mistic and Fangs let it be known where they stand all you sneaky racist cowards, that that schit I dont like.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Priestt
I here you bra, I was talking specifically about the word race using it a system of classic action. This was done by western Europeans in the 16-1700’s.
You are correct that ethnnicity or nation based prejudice is very old.
Classifying people by this term “race” though is a machination invented Soley to justify the slave trade
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I like black QBs too!
I also like white RBs, WRs, and DBs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
The season is over, let pyror play after CP3 has his revenge game.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I don’t hate Palmer I just don’t think he is very good & he has sucked out loud leading this team down the toilet just like I said he would.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I take it back. I don’t like white WRs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Mashallah hayaty! LOL
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Good book about Thomas Jefferson and his slaves.
http://www.amazon.com/Master-Mountain-Thomas-Jefferson-Slaves/dp/0374299560
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
I want the qb that gives us the best chance to win I dont think Pryor is there yet but I’M totally sure cause we havent seen him play in a real game yet like kappy, but its safe to say he wont do as good a kappy because he doesnt have a beast oline in front of him like kappy does.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
*not sure
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
LOL
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Back after bungles bowl 2012!!!
The biggest game of Carson’s life …. A true legacy game
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Mistic, how can you expect palmer to succeed on this team? c’mon be real what qb would put up good numbers on this team?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
You wont give CP3 a fair shake and thats what make your comments look suspect.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Mistic1 isn’t nearly as racist as a lot of people in here. He is opinionated as forceful but he is just more passionate about what he feels than most.
But to be sure there are some serious bigots in here who make Mistic1 look lovable.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I guess you forgot when Carson led the Bengals to the playoffs against Pitt and he got hurt. you give Carson no credit.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
In the words of the late and great Christopher Wallace
“Nigg as bleed just like us
Picture me bein’ scared of a nigg a that breathe the same air as me.”
=)
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
He gives CP3 as fair a shake as you guys give others YOU don’t like. JC was villified in here for winning and he didn’t turn the b all over nearly as much but posters hated him………Palmer is a t/o waiting to happen and we’re losing yet people praise him.
That would get any fair thinking person pause.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Mistic1 isn’t nearly as racist
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your admitting he’s racist you know.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
He gives CP3 as fair a shake as you guys give others YOU don’t like. JC was villified in here for winning and he didn’t turn the b all over nearly as much but posters hated him………Palmer is a t/o waiting to happen and we’re losing yet people praise him.
That would get any fair thinking person pause.
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JC didnt win here either when the team was 4-2 it was because of DMC not JC.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Miami said it well.
You can’t be a true Raider fan and be a racist.
Al Davis is Jewish. We had the first black coach and the first Hispanic HC. Our greatest players of yore are made of a tapestry of different races, colors and creeds.
Do we hate Todd Christiansen becuz he was Mormon? Gruden cuz he was Catholic, Marc Wilson cuz he was Mormon? No. We hate Marc Wilson cuz he sucked.
I’ve spent hours in here in arguments defending Hue Jackson and that I think he got a raw deal. Does it matter what color he is?
I’ve been defending Pryor as someone i’d like to see play…even though i’ve been on record as a card carrying Palmer fan.
I’ll say this. If Pryor were to come on and light it up and show he’s got what it takes to win more games than Palmer? I support him 100%
I just want Raiders to win. That’s it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
CP3 was brought here to play under Hue in his scheme, Hue is no longer here and the new coches scraped the O thus the regression of the entire team but Mistic still thinks CP3 should put up numbers, that is not a fair shake.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Aryanation is a weinee he hates black people because he’s inferior. Only broke low class whites are racist because ones at the top dont feel threatened by them. I feel sorry for him, because I know it must suck to be white and privileged but yet still manage to be such a low life. What a waste of good white skin. All that negative karma,, watch his trailers gonna collapse. Lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
CP3 never got to play 1 down with DMC in HUES O, and thats what everybody was looking forward to.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
JC didnt win here either when the team was 4-2 it was because of DMC not JC.
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And there you have it……..the guy doesn’t even rate a mention………lol
Mistic1 is NOT racist but he is racial which means he is concious of the treatment between the races. Which in turn makes him pull for people of his own race not to the demise of others but more to establish legitimacy to his own race which has been oppressed for thousands of years. He does hate any race based on what I read but he does prefer his own…if that makes sense.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Back after bungles bowl 2012!!!
The biggest game of Carson’s life …. A true legacy game
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You’re full of s.chytt. It’s a regular season game you idiot. How is that “legacy” defining?
What a fool.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Priest you even said it yourself CP3 is hands down better than JC so if JC looked decent in Hues O with DMC How would CP3 look?
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
He doesn’t ahte any race based on what I read he jsut prefers his own………simple!
If honest most of us feel a certain preference to what we understand and identify with……but whne you hate and oppress another race is when problems start.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
JC didnt win here either when the team was 4-2 it was because of DMC not JC.
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And there you have it……..the guy doesn’t even rate a mention………lol
Mistic1 is NOT racist but he is racial which means he is concious of the treatment between the races. Which in turn makes him pull for people of his own race not to the demise of others but more to establish legitimacy to his own race which has been oppressed for thousands of years. He does hate any race based on what I read but he does prefer his own…if that makes sense.
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Than let’s forget about his race baiting and judge him on his pathetic football takes.
He calls this game Sunday as the biggest game of Carson’s life. One of the stupidest things i’ve ever read here.
A regular season game with a team that is out of the playoffs and it’s “the biggest game of his life”?
THAT is just pure football stupid.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
I do believe CP is a better QB than JC and have said so many times but he hasn’t lived up to that status as yet IMO. His #’s are great and he’s capable of better IMO but I wnat to see better not have an opinion of it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
The Confererate map is the Red State map of today
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
JC didnt win here either when the team was 4-2 it was because of DMC not JC.
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And there you have it……..the guy doesn’t even rate a mention………lol
Mistic1 is NOT racist but he is racial which means he is concious of the treatment between the races. Which in turn makes him pull for people of his own race not to the demise of others but more to establish legitimacy to his own race which has been oppressed for thousands of years. He does hate any race based on what I read but he does prefer his own…if that makes sense.
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No it doesnt make sense to say someone is better when they clearly arent, there are other ways to make your point but just saying someone is better for the sake of race just makes you look even more ignorant.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I’m not sure I don’t agree in some aspects because his legacy is at stake everyone has forgotten his past greatness and they’re judging him solely on what he’s doing now they look at his record and his t/o’s in key situations and nationally they are calling the trade a bust. That is NOT Mistic1 that’s national pundits.
He needs to win this game or at least show he is among the best at his position or else they will be right.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Forget about race Mistic is the tru definition of a TROLL.
I’ve read the definiton that TROLL is one who deliberately attempts to incite negativity.
That’s exactly what he’s doing every time he comes on here.
There’s a big difference between that and having legit football takes.
He intentionally tries to incite discord on here…period.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
I do believe CP is a better QB than JC and have said so many times but he hasn’t lived up to that status as yet IMO. His #’s are great and he’s capable of better IMO but I wnat to see better not have an opinion of it.
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How can you expect Palmer to play better on this team as it is currently constucted? for what he has to work with he has been phenomenal.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
But, there’s a lot of people who think Blacks can’t play QB or President. Seriously.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Back after bungles bowl 2012!!!
The biggest game of Carson’s life …. A true legacy game
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You’re full of s.chytt. It’s a regular season game you idiot. How is that “legacy” defining?
What a fool.
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He’s building the game up in order to try and make us believe that it’s a career defining moment, when in fact like Dj said, it’s just another game.
If we do lose, it’s more than likely that he will come in here and say,”I told you so”, when in reality the game was probably lost for the same reasons we’ve been losing all year…we suck.
Knowing that we are severe underdogs only makes him realize the likelihood of his wishes coming true.
Now what happens if Palmer wins the biggest game of his life???
He’ll say, thats what he’s supposed to do and then bring up how J.C had a better record. lol
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
The trade can never be truly considered a bust because carson never got to really play for the coach that brought him here to play in hi scheme.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
If Hue was still here and we were still having this type of season then and only then could you call the trade a bust.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Fang come in here spouting racist schit, and nobody says a damned thing.
Mistic draws a crowd, though.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
503/504
Exactly!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
DJ we all want thme to win even Mistic1 believe it or not. He is NOT sold on Palmer and for good reason he has NOT lead this team the way he is capable IMO the picks come at the worst possible times……..you cannot do that and turn around and say he great it doesn’t wash…….Great players don’t make those mistakes………..period
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I’m not sure I don’t agree in some aspects because his legacy is at stake everyone has forgotten his past greatness and they’re judging him solely on what he’s doing now they look at his record and his t/o’s in key situations and nationally they are calling the trade a bust. That is NOT Mistic1 that’s national pundits.
He needs to win this game or at least show he is among the best at his position or else they will be right.
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Priest, you are smarter than this. How can a regular season game with ZERO playoff implications be “legacy defining”? Especially since he’s started a playoff game.
Also, how can u “define” Palmer on this game when he is playing with a 3rd string rb, and quite possibly one of the worst defenses the league has ever seen?
C’mon Priest. You know better.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Ok. You know what, maybe this IS a legacy defining game for Palmer.
His career will be defined by being a very good qb with crazy elite potential who had the misfortune to have to play on some of the sc.hyttiest teams in football.
Perfect.
THAT will be his legacy. Mistic is right after all.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Fang come in here spouting racist schit, and nobody says a damned thing.
Mistic draws a crowd, though.
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KK it is shocking to be honest, that guy in comparison to Mistic1 there is no comparison………..one guy professes race hatred proudly and no one says a word. Mistic1 mentions Palmer and the entire board gets in an uproar……..it’s speaks volumns!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
DJ we all want thme to win even Mistic1 believe it or not. He is NOT sold on Palmer and for good reason he has NOT lead this team the way he is capable IMO the picks come at the worst possible times……..you cannot do that and turn around and say he great it doesn’t wash…….Great players don’t make those mistakes………..period
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C’mon man lets be honest here, most great players played on great teams, if you dropped any great qb into this mess of a team you would see a few mistakes here and there.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Despite US history, I only hear about black racist here.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Raider Nation we’re all better than this stop being so color concious we’re all on the same team lets demonstrate more of that going forward.
I’m out peace y’all
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
C’mon man lets be honest here, most great players played on great teams, if you dropped any great qb into this mess of a team you would see a few mistakes here and there.
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I am being honest, a few mistakes I can live with it’s the game ending ones that I can’t and that needs to stop it’s up to him………..period
C y’all please be in good health and love your love ones. Peace!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Perfect example is Randy Moss when he played for the Raiders, he played so poorly all the experts thought he was washed up, but as soon as you dropped him in NE with Brady he sets a league record, its no different with Palmer drop him into a good situation and he would look like the qb we think he should be.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
515
Stop making so much sense! lol
Good night gentleman
And Fck RACISM!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Peyton Manning is a great player but how many times has he dropped the ball in the playoffs including a game ending int in the SB.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Fang come in here spouting racist schit, and nobody says a damned thing.
Mistic draws a crowd, though.
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Fangs stuff is just so ridiculous and over the top that people tend to just scroll by it trying to ignore it and not give it any juice cuz it’s so nuts.
Many, including myself have blasted him for that garbage.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I personally prefer Carson Palmer over Jason Campbell but i also could see why someone else would like jc over cArson. I believe mistic has a valid reason to like jc more than Carson but i don’t agree with it. I dont think mistics choice of campbell over carson has to do with race but moreso the fact that even though jason wasnt throwing for 400 yards and 3 tds a game he wasn’t throwing last minute game killing pick sixes either. While jc wont put the team on his back win you a game on his own he wouldnt blow it for you either. He was a game manager while Carson is a game changer some times for the better some times for worse. I personally like Carson because he has a higher ceiling and when hesw on hes on. I dont think its so much about race but more so many bloggers lacking the ability to agree to disagree. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you it doesnt mean they’re racist or stupid, they just see things different, and because they see things different that doesn’t necessarily mean the
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:44 pm
KKK is alive and well…be afraid jiggy-boos…you can thank Oboonma!
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
… just because people see things differently that doesn’t mean theyre wrong or your wrong either. Thats why you agree to disagree, because both sides have good points.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Game managers dont win SB’S unless your the 2000 Ravens or the 2002 Bucs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
or 85 bears you get the point or maybe even the 2012 9ers.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Someone please ask Jim Schwartz how he acquired a southern accent by growing up in Maryland and going to school at Georgetown?
But seriously, it makes no sense.
I think i’ll start doing that just for the heck of it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
… just because people see things differently that doesn’t mean theyre wrong or your wrong either. Thats why you agree to disagree, because both sides have good points.
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You cant do that with some like Mcfaggen20, just too dam dumb.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I’m out too yall see ya in the AM
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
…without sports you would not even know what a baboon looks like….well except when you went to the post office and saw the “wanted posters”…or watched “america’s most wanted”…or “bait car”….and they complain they don’t have their own TV shows.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Post 525 lol yea he’s pretty stubborn but hes not that bad. Just passionate about his beliefs. We’re gonna have to give up 100 on D to get him to see how useless Allen is. Smh
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
507-ever watch a game Dan Marino was the QB?He played under the same conditions Palmer is playing under today-no running game,no defense,threw INTs trying to carry his team- and he is in the HOF.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Dan Marino has a 147-93 record.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Wow,KK,i didn’t realize it was that good.Thanks.But i’m not saying Palmer is Marino.Just pointing out that many of those loses were a result of him throwing an INT that cost his team a win because he was asked to carry the team,same as Palmer is being asked to do today.You can print numbers,but I watched it happen.So did you.Many here didn’t see him play.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Perfect example is Randy Moss when he played for the Raiders, he played so poorly all the experts thought he was washed up, but as soon as you dropped him in NE with Brady he sets a league record, its no different with Palmer drop him into a good situation and he would look like the qb we think he should be.
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GOOD POST
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
I like Palmer, he’s a good passer.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Post #527… you sir are a p#aggot. Lol If it werent for sports or tv shows you’d have no life, because its obvious you have no friends or woman or else youd be with them spewing that racist ish instead of spewing it on here. I know you have no wOman cus ya wang too small thats why you hate the brother man because you’re inferior. Lol clown… Do the world a favor and pull your lip over your head and swallow yourself.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Drop any QB in a good situation and……..blah blah blah
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
… just because people see things differently that doesn’t mean theyre wrong or your wrong either. Thats why you agree to disagree, because both sides have good points.
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You cant do that with some like Mcfaggen20, just too dam dumb.
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WOW just after i said you posted good stuff yet you drop that, did you even read what he said , he said just because some people see things differently that doesn’t mean they’re wrong or you’re wrong, and yet you reply with your dumb message and say Mcfaggen like seriously? and guess who attacks the other person for having different oppinions ? you’re always calling me wrong names just because i have different oppinions, like by calling me those kinda names, make your posts more valid?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Actually it makes no difference to me what jc did or does in Chicago. I made no predictions about his career there.
He was a far better qb for us than the guy that followed.
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Mistic you have no cred. Everyone on earth saw how bad jason Campbell is. The guy behind him is 500% better. Everyone on Earth other than you thinks this. Time to go to bed.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Mistic you have no cred. Everyone on earth saw how bad jason Campbell is. The guy behind him is 500% better. Everyone on Earth other than you thinks this. Time to go to bed.
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So, I guess if Cincy wins Sunday, that will prove Hue’s a better coach than Dennis Allen?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Drop any QB in a good situation and……..blah blah blah
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Sports discussions are just weird, if a person likes somebody they will make excuses for them or put up good stats to validate them, if i person hates some body they will pull all the negative things out of their ass (Mistic) and say anything like this player is the worst ever blah blah, I hear the same thing in basketball , people who hate Lebron they say certain kinda stuff to diminish his accomplishments, people who hate Kobe say stuff like he always needs big men to win , yet are unable to prove what did those big guys won without Kobe, some people call him the worst player in NBA ever LMAO , If some how Raiders were to make playoffs and win Superbowl you can bet he would be in same boat as some of the guys who will hate that player no matter what and will try to discredit every one of his accomplishments, like if the Raiders some how win , he would bring up how the other 45 players played outta their minds, yet when they lose, how Palmer was the worst player on the field LMAO , you can never win with this guy, you and priest are no different who ignore everything just to back up your black brother
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Post #527… you sir are a p#aggot. Lol If it werent for sports or tv shows you’d have no life, because its obvious you have no friends or woman or else youd be with them spewing that racist ish instead of spewing it on here. I know you have no wOman cus ya wang too small thats why you hate the brother man because you’re inferior. Lol clown… Do the world a favor and pull your lip over your head and swallow yourself. ====== Spoken like a true small brained pavement ape…MY BRAIN is larger and superior to your pea brain…where does that BIG MUH DIK get you?…oh yeah 9 kids from 9 DIFFERENT women that you CAN’T SUPPORT….worthless animals that the white man has to pay for.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Mistic you have no cred. Everyone on earth saw how bad jason Campbell is. The guy behind him is 500% better. Everyone on Earth other than you thinks this. Time to go to bed.
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So, I guess if Cincy wins Sunday, that will prove Hue’s a better coach than Dennis Allen?
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Hue is not their head coach, stop with this BS
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Mistic you have no cred. Everyone on earth saw how bad jason Campbell is. The guy behind him is 500% better. Everyone on Earth other than you thinks this. Time to go to bed.
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So, I guess if Cincy wins Sunday, that will prove Hue’s a better coach than Dennis Allen?
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uh, no. But it will prove that Cincinnati is a better team than Oakland. Starting with their Dline versus our Oline. Hue Jackson was hired at the last second as an assistan DB coach. He has now been demoted to assistant special teams coach. Jackson is a bonehead loser who makes Knapp look like vince Lombardi, and that makes you look like an even bigger moron.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:43 pm
WHITE man invented basketball…WHITE man MOST POINTS SCORED EVER!!!!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Knapp looks like Lombardi? lol really?
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Post #527… you sir are a p#aggot. Lol If it werent for sports or tv shows you’d have no life, because its obvious you have no friends or woman or else youd be with them spewing that racist ish instead of spewing it on here. I know you have no wOman cus ya wang too small thats why you hate the brother man because you’re inferior. Lol clown… Do the world a favor and pull your lip over your head and swallow yourself. ====== Spoken like a true small brained pavement ape…MY BRAIN is larger and superior to your pea brain…where does that BIG MUH DIK get you?…oh yeah 9 kids from 9 DIFFERENT women that you CAN’T SUPPORT….worthless animals that the white man has to pay for.
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Nobody gives a f8ck what you have to say , ask any guy in here if any of your sh1t has made a different in their lives, or if anybody have ever agreed with? but keep up with this that’s what guys like you deserve , no recognition and zero credibility, there are many like you in the world, who are just slow thinkers (Mistic) but in your mind you might think you are the greatest ever or something
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Knapp looks like Lombardi? lol really?
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Compared to your idiotic drivel? Yes.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
HEY MACK…i think you would have an easier time doing the lip thing…looks like you have 5000 years of practice = http://farm.vtc.vn/media/vtcnews/2011/10/14/ethi3.jpg
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Knapp looks like Lombardi? lol really?
— It makes sense, because Knapp even after his failures still keep getting OC jobs , yet Hue didn’t even get any assistant job on his side of expertise, he’s some assistant special teams coach, LOL , this is the difference betweent them , Hue just let his mouth run too much just like (mistic) and paid for it
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
aryanation Says:
where’s my white ass hole? I have no idea what I did with it.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
HEY MACK…i think you would have an easier time doing the lip thing…looks like you have 5000 years of practice = http://farm.vtc.vn/media/vtcnews/2011/10/14/ethi3.jpg
– BLAH BLAH
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Post #527… you sir are a p#aggot. Lol If it werent for sports or tv shows you’d have no life, because its obvious you have no friends or woman or else youd be with them spewing that racist ish instead of spewing it on here. I know you have no wOman cus ya wang too small thats why you hate the brother man because you’re inferior. Lol clown… Do the world a favor and pull your lip over your head and swallow yourself. ====== Spoken like a true small brained pavement ape…MY BRAIN is larger and superior to your pea brain…where does that BIG MUH DIK get you?…oh yeah 9 kids from 9 DIFFERENT women that you CAN’T SUPPORT….worthless animals that the white man has to pay for.
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Nobody gives a f8ck what you have to say , ask any guy in here if any of your sh1t has made a different in their lives, or if anybody have ever agreed with? but keep up with this that’s what guys like you deserve , no recognition and zero credibility, there are many like you in the world, who are just slow thinkers (Mistic) but in your mind you might think you are the greatest ever or something ========================================= too bad you can’t think for yourself…keep washing your brain with the JEW TUBE…they love sheep like you.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
HEY MACK…i think you would have an easier time doing the lip thing…looks like you have 5000 years of practice = http://farm.vtc.vn/media/vtcnews/2011/10/14/ethi3.jpg
– BLAH BLAH ============ i bet that plate-lip is a better QB than Palmer!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm
The Mack Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Post #527… you sir are a p#aggot. Lol If it werent for sports or tv shows you’d have no life, because its obvious you have no friends or woman or else youd be with them spewing that racist ish instead of spewing it on here. I know you have no wOman cus ya wang too small thats why you hate the brother man because you’re inferior. Lol clown… Do the world a favor and pull your lip over your head and swallow yourself. ====== Spoken like a true small brained pavement ape…MY BRAIN is larger and superior to your pea brain…where does that BIG MUH DIK get you?…oh yeah 9 kids from 9 DIFFERENT women that you CAN’T SUPPORT….worthless animals that the white man has to pay for.
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Nobody gives a f8ck what you have to say , ask any guy in here if any of your sh1t has made a different in their lives, or if anybody have ever agreed with? but keep up with this that’s what guys like you deserve , no recognition and zero credibility, there are many like you in the world, who are just slow thinkers (Mistic) but in your mind you might think you are the greatest ever or something ========================================= too bad you can’t think for yourself…keep washing your brain with the JEW TUBE…they love sheep like you.
–Blah, Blah
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
hey mistic = http://farm.vtc.vn/media/vtcnews/2011/10/14/ethi3.jpg = WAVE OF THE FUTURE !!!
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
HEY MACK…i think you would have an easier time doing the lip thing…looks like you have 5000 years of practice = http://farm.vtc.vn/media/vtcnews/2011/10/14/ethi3.jpg
– BLAH BLAH ============ i bet that plate-lip is a better QB than Palmer!
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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH LMAO
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm
aryanation Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
hey mistic = http://farm.vtc.vn/media/vtcnews/2011/10/14/ethi3.jpg = WAVE OF THE FUTURE !!!
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ARYANATION = Should be hanged from 50 feet high
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Seymour, I started going to the games in 64′ Al Davis was Coach.
Sorry, but I’ve forgotten more Raider knowledge than you will ever know.
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Seymour, I started going to the games in 64′ Al Davis was Coach.
Sorry, but I’ve forgotten more Raider knowledge than you will ever know.
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Going to moew games doesn’t equal to more Raider knowledge, there are some people on Madden13 who have played over 1,000 games and yet they still keep losing to guys who have just played in just 50 games
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
more***
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
That goes for you too Mcfadden20
November 24th, 2012 at 12:00 am
“when confronted with the truth the primitive ape goes violent” = chimpout!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 12:00 am
played just 50 games**
November 24th, 2012 at 12:01 am
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
That goes for you too Mcfadden20
— Going to more games don’t mean sh1t , it’s not making you more smart and making you think more radically
November 24th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Just got done droppin a smooth deuce. #cool
November 24th, 2012 at 12:03 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:00 am
“when confronted with the truth the primitive ape goes violent” = chimpout!!!
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OKay loser
November 24th, 2012 at 12:04 am
I GOT MY OBAMMY FONE! = http://www.ezakwantu.com/Lip%20Plugs.jpg = i hope he marries your daughter mcfadden20
November 24th, 2012 at 12:04 am
When I was 16, I caught a Blanda FG.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:07 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:04 am
When I was 16, I caught a Blanda FG.
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YEAH that def improved your football IQ, we can def see that
November 24th, 2012 at 12:08 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:04 am
I GOT MY OBAMMY FONE! = http://www.ezakwantu.com/Lip%20Plugs.jpg = i hope he marries your daughter mcfadden20
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ANyone would be better than you
November 24th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Yep.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:09 am
SUP BLOG BRAHS
Got some mean recycled chili that my posse needs to clean off the walls. Any body got any tips? Got to clean the pad up cuz we got a video shoot with catering in about twenty minutes. Have to spray some man sized nad spray to excite the babes (and to get rid of the odor).
FOBIZZLE DAWIZZLE
November 24th, 2012 at 12:10 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Yep.
–Yeah you’re knowledge is very high LMAO
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
In 68′ I was at the Heidi game.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
…WELL THEN YOU’LL HAVE EARS TO MATCH THE LIPS
November 24th, 2012 at 12:13 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
…WELL THEN YOU’LL HAVE EARS TO MATCH THE LIPS
– HAHAHAHAA that was very funny hahaha funniest sh1t ever i can’t stop laughing
November 24th, 2012 at 12:13 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
In 68′ I was at the Heidi game.
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That’s very nice , you deserve an award from Raiders Organization
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
In 68′ I was at the Heidi game. Charlie Smith is a friend of mine
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 am
SPLOOGE TIME.
Toilets and urinals won’t handle all the Splooge that’s gonna be flyin after the champaign gets uncorked. But they do make good butt plugs.
SPLOOGE FO WIZZLE
November 24th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:13 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
In 68′ I was at the Heidi game.
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That’s very nice , you deserve an award from Raiders Organization
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Yeah, they invited me to practice this year.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:15 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
In 68′ I was at the Heidi game. Charlie Smith is a friend of mine
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That’s wonderful
November 24th, 2012 at 12:15 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:13 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 am
In 68′ I was at the Heidi game.
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That’s very nice , you deserve an award from Raiders Organization
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Yeah, they invited me to practice this year.
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That’s awesome
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
My mother used to do Art Shell’s taxes.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
My mother used to do Art Shell’s taxes.
– That’s great
November 24th, 2012 at 12:23 am
McFadden where’s your pedigree?
November 24th, 2012 at 12:25 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:23 am
McFadden where’s your pedigree?
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I have never watched any Raiders game , i have zero knowledge of Raiders , what sport is this?
November 24th, 2012 at 12:26 am
http://sharetv.org/images/i_dream_of_jeannie-show.jpg ====== NO ONE DREAMS OF “BLACKIE”
November 24th, 2012 at 12:27 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
My mother used to do Art Shell’s taxes. =====SO YOUR THE BASTARD CHILD OF ART SHELL?
November 24th, 2012 at 12:34 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:27 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
My mother used to do Art Shell’s taxes. =====SO YOUR THE BASTARD CHILD OF ART SHELL?
—And you must be one of the bastard childs of one of those Aryan Nation thugs in jail, NO?
November 24th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Mcfadden20
I was at the 1st preseason game in 68′
The Raider drafted Eldridge Dickey the first black QB in history to be drafted in the 1st round.
Kenny Stabler in the 2nd round.
They were playing the Dallas Cowboys and Roger Staubach who had just gotten out of the Navy.
The Black Panthers were marching. Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King had been assassinated. I had a huge Afro
Dickey started the game, looked pretty good.
Stabler came in in the 2nd half, Wow.
That was enough for me. I don’t care what color a player is. Seriously.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:39 am
2012 MONKEY ARCHITECTURE = http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00007/F_200701_January11ed__7622a.jpg = WHAT AN ADVANCED RACE!
November 24th, 2012 at 12:41 am
ELDRIDGE DICKEY = WAVE OF THE FUTURE…right then i knew al davis was an idiot
November 24th, 2012 at 12:43 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Mcfadden20
I was at the 1st preseason game in 68′
The Raider drafted Eldridge Dickey the first black QB in history to be drafted in the 1st round.
Kenny Stabler in the 2nd round.
They were playing the Dallas Cowboys and Roger Staubach who had just gotten out of the Navy.
The Black Panthers were marching. Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King had been assassinated. I had a huge Afro
Dickey started the game, looked pretty good.
Stabler came in in the 2nd half, Wow.
That was enough for me. I don’t care what color a player is. Seriously.
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That’s awesome dude, I wish i had seen those years, unfortunately i was born in 8t and we Migrated to USA in 99 and became fan of the Raiders 00, so i only have a couple of good years to talk about, but will never be fan of another team no matter about
November 24th, 2012 at 12:44 am
no matter what***
November 24th, 2012 at 12:44 am
born in 87***
November 24th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:44 am
born in 87*** ===== no wonder you don’t know squat about the raiders…you have never seen the real raiders….what a tool
November 24th, 2012 at 12:49 am
@ Aryanation, give it up bro… you’re making yourself look bad. You’re mad because you’re white and still cant get ahead in life. Lol You have no excuse,you have no oppressor, you’re just a natural born loser and you hate yourself for it so You just take your self hatred out on blacks. You’re a sad case because you’re a tormented lost soul that’ll never be found. You say you’re proud and happy to be white but youre actions say you’re miserable. Haha and im loving every minute of watching you sulk in your own misery. Because while you’re miserable, im happy because my presidents black and my bottom b1tch is white! Lol lifes good, you mad. Hahaha
November 24th, 2012 at 12:50 am
…i was watching raider football when mazeroski hit the homer to beat the yankees….now you can go figure it out genius.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:51 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:44 am
born in 87*** ===== no wonder you don’t know squat about the raiders…you have never seen the real raiders….what a tool
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I don’t know squat about the Raiders? sorry i didn’t know i was enrolled in one of your Raiders history classes and i got grade F
November 24th, 2012 at 12:52 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:50 am
…i was watching raider football when mazeroski hit the homer to beat the yankees….now you can go figure it out genius.
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Does it matter ???? just spew ur racist sh1t lol , just like AL davis said , keep spewing sh1t baby
November 24th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Not sure if I’m in the right blog. I might have made a wrong turn. I’m looking for the musicians who think long hair isn’t necessary to be a rock star blog. If anybody could show me the way I’d appreciate it.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:52 am
3. Are the recent successes with the Bengals on offense attributed to Andy Dalton and therefore the past failings the fault of Carson Palmer? Or is there something else entirely that was not working before that is clicking now?
Yes and no. Palmer’s failings weren’t entirely his fault. Chad Johnson was declining and someone should have been fired for signing Terrell Owens. Yes, Owens had a good year in 2010, but it wasn’t easy on Palmer to satisfy two massive egos like that; ironically two egos that haven’t done anything in the NFL since (well, on the field at least). Plus the Bengals failed to rebuild certain positions after various departures, like the offensive line, wide receiver, and even tight end prior to Jermaine Gresham’s arrival.
Yet there are different intangibles that Dalton has in which Palmer didn’t have with Cincinnati. When Dalton throws an interception, he tends to have a closer’s mindset in baseball. He forgets it by the next series, rarely affecting his play. Dalton has also shown a greater success for fourth-quarter performances, at one point generating a perfect passer rating this year. We didn’t see those things much in Palmer during his stay with us. And an interception, including one of his legendary pick-six throws, showed a downtrodden Palmer and his games usually went downhill after that.
At the same time Dalton is a mix between a game manager for most of the game, but high-stakes passer when he crosses midfield. His best play is throwing the football high enough for A.J. Green to beat everyone else. It works out and without Green, this offense isn’t very effective.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/23/3683392/five-good-oakland-raiders-questions-with-cincinnati-bengals-blog-cincy-jungle
November 24th, 2012 at 12:53 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:49 am
@ Aryanation, give it up bro… you’re making yourself look bad. You’re mad because you’re white and still cant get ahead in life. Lol You have no excuse,you have no oppressor, you’re just a natural born loser and you hate yourself for it so You just take your self hatred out on blacks. You’re a sad case because you’re a tormented lost soul that’ll never be found. You say you’re proud and happy to be white but youre actions say you’re miserable. Haha and im loving every minute of watching you sulk in your own misery. Because while you’re miserable, im happy because my presidents black and my bottom b1tch is white! Lol lifes good, you mad. Hahaha
– Good post
November 24th, 2012 at 12:54 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:49 am
@ Aryanation, give it up bro… you’re making yourself look bad. You’re mad because you’re white and still cant get ahead in life. Lol You have no excuse,you have no oppressor, you’re just a natural born loser and you hate yourself for it so You just take your self hatred out on blacks. You’re a sad case because you’re a tormented lost soul that’ll never be found. You say you’re proud and happy to be white but youre actions say you’re miserable. Haha and im loving every minute of watching you sulk in your own misery. Because while you’re miserable, im happy because my presidents black and my bottom b1tch is white! Lol lifes good, you mad. Hahaha ====== THAT’S FUNNY…a WHITE woman has a NI66ER baby…better tell Ripley’s Believe it Or Not !…………..EVERY day i wake up WHITE and BEAUTIFUL and EVERY day you wake up UGLY & SMELLY….must suck for you.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:56 am
GG Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:52 am
3. Are the recent successes with the Bengals on offense attributed to Andy Dalton and therefore the past failings the fault of Carson Palmer? Or is there something else entirely that was not working before that is clicking now?
Yes and no. Palmer’s failings weren’t entirely his fault. Chad Johnson was declining and someone should have been fired for signing Terrell Owens. Yes, Owens had a good year in 2010, but it wasn’t easy on Palmer to satisfy two massive egos like that; ironically two egos that haven’t done anything in the NFL since (well, on the field at least). Plus the Bengals failed to rebuild certain positions after various departures, like the offensive line, wide receiver, and even tight end prior to Jermaine Gresham’s arrival.
Yet there are different intangibles that Dalton has in which Palmer didn’t have with Cincinnati. When Dalton throws an interception, he tends to have a closer’s mindset in baseball. He forgets it by the next series, rarely affecting his play. Dalton has also shown a greater success for fourth-quarter performances, at one point generating a perfect passer rating this year. We didn’t see those things much in Palmer during his stay with us. And an interception, including one of his legendary pick-six throws, showed a downtrodden Palmer and his games usually went downhill after that.
At the same time Dalton is a mix between a game manager for most of the game, but high-stakes passer when he crosses midfield. His best play is throwing the football high enough for A.J. Green to beat everyone else. It works out and without Green, this offense isn’t very effective.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/23/3683392/five-
— Cincy D is worlds better than it was when Palmer was there, that’s all i gotta say
November 24th, 2012 at 12:56 am
…can only imagine how many of your baby animals i have to pay for.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:57 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:54 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:49 am
@ Aryanation, give it up bro… you’re making yourself look bad. You’re mad because you’re white and still cant get ahead in life. Lol You have no excuse,you have no oppressor, you’re just a natural born loser and you hate yourself for it so You just take your self hatred out on blacks. You’re a sad case because you’re a tormented lost soul that’ll never be found. You say you’re proud and happy to be white but youre actions say you’re miserable. Haha and im loving every minute of watching you sulk in your own misery. Because while you’re miserable, im happy because my presidents black and my bottom b1tch is white! Lol lifes good, you mad. Hahaha ====== THAT’S FUNNY…a WHITE woman has a NI66ER baby…better tell Ripley’s Believe it Or Not !…………..EVERY day i wake up WHITE and BEAUTIFUL and EVERY day you wake up UGLY & SMELLY….must suck for you.
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SO your purpose for coming here is to tell us how you wake up white and beautiful everyday? LMAO
November 24th, 2012 at 12:59 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:56 am
…can only imagine how many of your baby animals i have to pay for.
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You don’t work, so you don’t pay sh1t
November 24th, 2012 at 1:01 am
cfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:59 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:56 am
…can only imagine how many of your baby animals i have to pay for.
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You don’t work, so you don’t pay sh1t ==== keep working hard so one day they can rape & murder your family…its what they do best
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 am
‘Aryanation” Lol what a joke. I wouldn’t rep that ish for the world, when you mofos get caught alone you stay getting your a&&es whipped. Lol yall aint superior at shh but takin a$$ beating lmao. Hahaha Your breed is dying, no ones racist anymore get with the times old man. Why do you think a black man was elected president? Its going on 2013 let it go.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:04 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:01 am
cfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:59 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:56 am
…can only imagine how many of your baby animals i have to pay for.
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You don’t work, so you don’t pay sh1t ==== keep working hard so one day they can rape & murder your family…its what they do best
— okay weirdo
November 24th, 2012 at 1:07 am
LETS LOOK AT THE NFL ARREST RECORD THE LAST 5 MONTHS = ALL BABOONS!!!! WHAT A SUPRISE!!!! Date Team Position Name Incident Resolution
8/11/2012 Dolphins WR Chad Johnson Arrested on a misdemeanor domestic violence charge for allegedly head-butting his wife during an argument. Released by the Dolphins.
7/21/2012 Detroit CB Aaron Berry Arrested on three charges of simple assault. Cut by team 2 days later.
7/20/2012 Tennessee WR Kenny Britt Arrested and charged with DUI as he attempted to pass through a security gate at the Fort Campbell Army base.
7/19/2012 Kansas City CB Donald Washington Arrested in Effingham, Ill., charged with driving under the influence of drugs, marijuana possession, driving on a suspended license and speeding.
7/18/2012 Cowboys WR Dez Bryant Arrested on a misdemeanor family violence charge in DeSoto, Texas, after his mother called 911 and said her son had hit her.
7/14/2012 Seattle RB Marshawn Lynch Arrested on suspicion of DUI in Northern California.
7/14/2012 Denver LB Elvis Dumervil Arrested in Miami on charges of aggravated assault with a firearm.
7/13/2012 Jacksonville DE Odrick Ray Arrested for outstanding traffic warrants after a traffic stop by police in Tulsa, Okla.
7/10/2012 St. Louis DE Robert Quinn Charged with drunken driving in suburban St. Louis.
7/8/2012 Philadelphia RB Dion Lewis Arrested in Albany, N.Y., and charged with falsely reporting a fire and misdemeanor reckless endangerment after being locked out of his hotel room. Charges dropped.
7/7/2012 Minnesota RB Adrian Peterson Arrested and charged with resisting arrest at a Houston nightclub.
7/2/2012 Tampa Bay CB Eric Wright Arrested in Los Angeles on suspicion of DUI after the car he was driving rear-ended a pickup truck near the Staples Center in Los Angeles. District Attorney did not file charges.
7/1/2012 Cleveland DT Kiante Tripp Arrested in an Atlanta suburb on a felony burglary charge.
6/23/2012 Detroit CB Aaron Berry Arrested on suspicion of DUI after allegedly driving into several parked cars in Pennsylvania. Assigned to diversionary program.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:08 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:07 am
LETS LOOK AT THE NFL ARREST RECORD THE LAST 5 MONTHS = ALL BABOONS!!!! WHAT A SUPRISE!!!! Date Team Position Name Incident Resolution
8/11/2012 Dolphins WR Chad Johnson Arrested on a misdemeanor domestic violence charge for allegedly head-butting his wife during an argument. Released by the Dolphins.
7/21/2012 Detroit CB Aaron Berry Arrested on three charges of simple assault. Cut by team 2 days later.
7/20/2012 Tennessee WR Kenny Britt Arrested and charged with DUI as he attempted to pass through a security gate at the Fort Campbell Army base.
7/19/2012 Kansas City CB Donald Washington Arrested in Effingham, Ill., charged with driving under the influence of drugs, marijuana possession, driving on a suspended license and speeding.
7/18/2012 Cowboys WR Dez Bryant Arrested on a misdemeanor family violence charge in DeSoto, Texas, after his mother called 911 and said her son had hit her.
7/14/2012 Seattle RB Marshawn Lynch Arrested on suspicion of DUI in Northern California.
7/14/2012 Denver LB Elvis Dumervil Arrested in Miami on charges of aggravated assault with a firearm.
7/13/2012 Jacksonville DE Odrick Ray Arrested for outstanding traffic warrants after a traffic stop by police in Tulsa, Okla.
7/10/2012 St. Louis DE Robert Quinn Charged with drunken driving in suburban St. Louis.
7/8/2012 Philadelphia RB Dion Lewis Arrested in Albany, N.Y., and charged with falsely reporting a fire and misdemeanor reckless endangerment after being locked out of his hotel room. Charges dropped.
7/7/2012 Minnesota RB Adrian Peterson Arrested and charged with resisting arrest at a Houston nightclub.
7/2/2012 Tampa Bay CB Eric Wright Arrested in Los Angeles on suspicion of DUI after the car he was driving rear-ended a pickup truck near the Staples Center in Los Angeles. District Attorney did not file charges.
7/1/2012 Cleveland DT Kiante Tripp Arrested in an Atlanta suburb on a felony burglary charge.
6/23/2012 Detroit CB Aaron Berry Arrested on suspicion of DUI after allegedly driving into several parked cars in Pennsylvania. Assigned to diversionary program.
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>>>>>???? huh what does that have to do with this Raiders blog?? and btw do you follow Raiders??
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Gnite Gents except the pig.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Blog Brahs, Nerds & Assorted Goobers
During this season of giving and thanks, wanna throw a huge Beeeech Diggity-style shout out to the baddest blog posse on the internet -
The PM Party Patrol
Homies (y’all know who you are – you’re probably getting a dope BJ right now), what a successful year full of great memories
We’ve beaten KrappyRat to a pulp, spanked my minions all across the blog and gotten high on mad dope reefer while 69ing hella wasted shorties
Let’s enjoy more beatdowns / glorious smackdowns before the year is up, then reload for 2013
Unfortunately, however, I just reloaded a mega duece in my BVDs
GUESS THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES
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honestly, i have tried to ignore this idiot, but sometimes when i actually read some of his stuff, i just can’t believe what a moron he is.
he thinks he has a blog posse.
he thinks he’s won some sort of battle, even though pretty much everyone says he’s a total clown.
he and his supposed posse have somehow gotten high and had sex via the blog.
he finds endless “humor” talking about sh!tting his pants.
u just know this turd has a tiny weiner (anyone that talks about how big his is, inevitably has a tiny one), and has had almost no sex in real life. pretty much any guy who talks about strippers has no game to get an actual real girl.
just lots and lots of wasted money on lap dances. he knows them all by name, and they they all run over to him, cuz they know they can empty his wallet by the end of the night.
poor loser.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:10 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Gnite Gents except the pig.
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Gnite KK,
November 24th, 2012 at 1:11 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 am
‘Aryanation” Lol what a joke. I wouldn’t rep that ish for the world, when you mofos get caught alone you stay getting your a&&es whipped. Lol yall aint superior at shh but takin a$$ beating lmao. Hahaha Your breed is dying, no ones racist anymore get with the times old man. Why do you think a black man was elected president? ==== STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW A WHITE WOMAN CAN HAVE A BLACK BABOON BABY?….YOUR MONGREL WAS ELECTED BY ALL THE NON WORKING LAZY NI66ERS LIKE YOURSELF WHO WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE….50,000 ROUNDS HERE WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:13 am
aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:11 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 am
‘Aryanation” Lol what a joke. I wouldn’t rep that ish for the world, when you mofos get caught alone you stay getting your a&&es whipped. Lol yall aint superior at shh but takin a$$ beating lmao. Hahaha Your breed is dying, no ones racist anymore get with the times old man. Why do you think a black man was elected president? ==== STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW A WHITE WOMAN CAN HAVE A BLACK BABOON BABY?….YOUR MONGREL WAS ELECTED BY ALL THE NON WORKING LAZY NI66ERS LIKE YOURSELF WHO WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE….50,000 ROUNDS HERE WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.
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You’re hilarious, i mean not in a good way , but you get what i mean
November 24th, 2012 at 1:15 am
LOL ARYANATION LIFE IS PATHETIC AS IT COMES BUT I LOVE IT < I HOPE HE NEVER LOOKS HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR AND REFLECT ON HIS LIFE and Improves himself< I JUST HOPE HE DIES THE SAME WAY OTHER PEOPLE LIKE HIM HAVE DIED
November 24th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:41 am
ELDRIDGE DICKEY = WAVE OF THE FUTURE…right then i knew al davis was an idiot
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why are u here? nothing else to do with ur life?
seriously. how many “animal” whites have committed rape and murder? how many of ur stupid aryan pals in prison?
u have lived this long and not figured any of this out?
u spend ur whole life talking sh!t about people u know very little about. meanwhile white people have committed far more heinous crimes than blacks. ur hero hitler was a murdering little bozo. he looks so stupid going off on his little speeches with his pathetic little clenched hands, spitting and frothing. in the meantime, he couldn’t pick up a woman.
probably like u.
haters never get ahead. or head.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Lmao @ post 608 did you really just say that? Like your people really didn’t rape kidnap and murder thousands ontop of enslaving them? and whats worse is when you hear about kids going to school and murdering entire campuses, shooting up theatres or raping children its always someone who looks like you. Smh so whos the real crook? But i understand you’re just a miserable piece of trash who needs attention because hes old and lonely so im not gonna give you any more pleasure by entertaining your shananagans any longer.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:18 am
DUMB BABOON CAN’T ANSWER THE QUESTION….oh that’s right if you have one ounce of baboon in you and you are semi successful then all the baboons say you are 100% BLACK…because in 100,000 years they have DONE NOTHING…so they need something to make themselves feel good….worthless animals
November 24th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Hey! Hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving.
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the league is looking at banning cut blocks next season:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/23/report-league-will-consider-abolishing-all-blocks-below-the-waist-in-2013/
Would this make the ZBS obsolete? It’d be a shame if we switched up our o-line for nothing.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:20 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Lmao @ post 608 did you really just say that? Like your people really didn’t rape kidnap and murder thousands ontop of enslaving them? and whats worse is when you hear about kids going to school and murdering entire campuses, shooting up theatres or raping children its always someone who looks like you. Smh so whos the real crook? But i understand you’re just a miserable piece of trash who needs attention because hes old and lonely so im not gonna give you any more pleasure by entertaining your shananagans any longer.
– Yeah we can ignore him , I’m with you on that
November 24th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:41 am
ELDRIDGE DICKEY = WAVE OF THE FUTURE…right then i knew al davis was an idiot
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why are u here? nothing else to do with ur life?
seriously. how many “animal” whites have committed rape and murder? how many of ur stupid aryan pals in prison?
u have lived this long and not figured any of this out?
u spend ur whole life talking sh!t about people u know very little about. meanwhile white people have committed far more heinous crimes than blacks. ur hero hitler was a murdering little bozo. he looks so stupid going off on his little speeches with his pathetic little clenched hands, spitting and frothing. in the meantime, he couldn’t pick up a woman.
probably like u.
haters never get ahead. or head. ==== SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE JEW BRAINWASHED CLOWN
November 24th, 2012 at 1:21 am
i’m white. educated. non-jew. i voted for obam-a. cuz he was the best candidate. i think white guys like fangs/aryanation are morons. uneducated losers looking for someone to blame for their pathetic lives.
they really need to get cleaned up, go to church, stop hating, and realize how many former white supremacists have had an awakening and stopped their nonsense.
the dude is just angry angry everyday, and is never going to be happy.
ur never going to change anything. blacks aren’t going away. neither are jews. just get ur head outta ur azz.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:22 am
Lets get to Offseason , since we got only about 2% chance of making the playoffs this year,If you guys were GM of this team, what kinda moves would you guys make to make sure this team is competing for Playoffs next year?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:24 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Lmao @ post 608 did you really just say that? Like your people really didn’t rape kidnap and murder thousands ontop of enslaving them? and whats worse is when you hear about kids going to school and murdering entire campuses, shooting up theatres or raping children its always someone who looks like you. Smh so whos the real crook? But i understand you’re just a miserable piece of trash who needs attention because hes old and lonely so im not gonna give you any more pleasure by entertaining your shananagans any longer. ======== THAT’S WHY PRISONS ARE 70% BLACK…10% OF THE POPULATION THAT COMMITS 70% OF THE MURDERS….YOU ANIMALS RAPE 30,000 WHITE WOMEN EVERY YEAR….WHITES RAPE ZERO SHE BOONS…BECAUSE WE DON’T LIKE ANIMALS.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:20 am
==== SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE JEW BRAINWASHED CLOWN
haha! anytime a white guy tells them they’re an idiot, they must be “brainwashed”. no dude. ur the one who’s been brainwashed by ur hillbilly white trash loser family and friends. it’s the way u think ur not the bottom of the barrel.
how’s it working for u?
unhappy, angry, losing all the time. look around pal. the people that get ahead in life don’t spend time hating all the time. it’s a beautiful world. stop and enjoy it.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:24 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Lmao @ post 608 did you really just say that? Like your people really didn’t rape kidnap and murder thousands ontop of enslaving them? and whats worse is when you hear about kids going to school and murdering entire campuses, shooting up theatres or raping children its always someone who looks like you. Smh so whos the real crook? But i understand you’re just a miserable piece of trash who needs attention because hes old and lonely so im not gonna give you any more pleasure by entertaining your shananagans any longer. ======== THAT’S WHY PRISONS ARE 70% BLACK…10% OF THE POPULATION THAT COMMITS 70% OF THE MURDERS….YOU ANIMALS RAPE 30,000 WHITE WOMEN EVERY YEAR….WHITES RAPE ZERO SHE BOONS…BECAUSE WE DON’T LIKE ANIMALS.
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i love me some dark skin. black chics are hot. so are latinas, asians, you name it.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:21 am
i’m white. educated. non-jew. i voted for obam-a. cuz he was the best candidate. i think white guys like fangs/aryanation are morons. uneducated losers looking for someone to blame for their pathetic lives.
they really need to get cleaned up, go to church, stop hating, and realize how many former white supremacists have had an awakening and stopped their nonsense.
the dude is just angry angry everyday, and is never going to be happy.
ur never going to change anything. blacks aren’t going away. neither are jews. just get ur head outta ur azz. ======= 700,000 SIGNATURES FOR SECESSION SAYS YOU DON’T KNOW $HIT….GO LIVE WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD SCUM…SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST….WE ARE KEEPING OUR RACE PURE FROM THAT TRASH.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
what i don’t like are toothless grimy trailer trash white chics who do meth all day and stink. like every girl this guy knows. it’s hilarious when they talk about hygiene. have u smelled ur trailer today fangs?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:29 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:24 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Lmao @ post 608 did you really just say that? Like your people really didn’t rape kidnap and murder thousands ontop of enslaving them? and whats worse is when you hear about kids going to school and murdering entire campuses, shooting up theatres or raping children its always someone who looks like you. Smh so whos the real crook? But i understand you’re just a miserable piece of trash who needs attention because hes old and lonely so im not gonna give you any more pleasure by entertaining your shananagans any longer. ======== THAT’S WHY PRISONS ARE 70% BLACK…10% OF THE POPULATION THAT COMMITS 70% OF THE MURDERS….YOU ANIMALS RAPE 30,000 WHITE WOMEN EVERY YEAR….WHITES RAPE ZERO SHE BOONS…BECAUSE WE DON’T LIKE ANIMALS.
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i love me some dark skin. black chics are hot. so are latinas, asians, you name it. ===== ENJOY YOUR DISEASE…BABOONS ARE INFESTED WITH AIDS
November 24th, 2012 at 1:29 am
I’m Sikh , have you guys heard about this white supremacist going into a sikh temple in Wisconsin and opening fire on all the worshippers?? yet I’m here still thinking about just him only and not connecting him with other white folks and calling them the same, let’s start judging people as individuals instead of freaking pitting them in a group together, there are f8cked up people everywhere, past is past, A lot of SIKH people were killed by Hindus in 1984 in India and i held hate in my heart for all Hindu’s until i grew up and realized that there just a few people from that group that were bad , i can’t judge all the people the same, Sikhs were killed by British emperor in India before India’s independence, I’m not just going to hate all white folks because some certain idiots were responsible for all that, get a life you phaggots
November 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
======= 700,000 SIGNATURES FOR SECESSION SAYS YOU DON’T KNOW $HIT….GO LIVE WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD SCUM…SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST….WE ARE KEEPING OUR RACE PURE FROM THAT TRASH.
i would love it if all the white trash seceded. we could have a nice successful country with no racist scumbags. it would be fantastic.
guarantee u live in poverty and are NOT part of the first world.
guarantee u ARE on some sort of government assistance.
who’s to blame. must be a bunch of black people u have never met. it couldn’t have anything to do with ur lack of education or intelligence. ur scummy appearance when u go to get a job. ur overall stupidity.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:32 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
what i don’t like are toothless grimy trailer trash white chics who do meth all day and stink. like every girl this guy knows. it’s hilarious when they talk about hygiene. have u smelled ur trailer today fangs? ====== YOU HAVE NO ANSWER TO THE NUMBERS AND FACTS I PRESENT….JUST CHILDISH BABBLE THAT YOUR JEW MASTERS TAUGHT YOU TO RECITE….WHAT A MORON
November 24th, 2012 at 1:34 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
======= 700,000 SIGNATURES FOR SECESSION SAYS YOU DON’T KNOW $HIT….GO LIVE WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD SCUM…SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST….WE ARE KEEPING OUR RACE PURE FROM THAT TRASH.
i would love it if all the white trash seceded. we could have a nice successful country with no racist scumbags. it would be fantastic.
guarantee u live in poverty and are NOT part of the first world.
guarantee u ARE on some sort of government assistance.
who’s to blame. must be a bunch of black people u have never met. it couldn’t have anything to do with ur lack of education or intelligence. ur scummy appearance when u go to get a job. ur overall stupidity.
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He’s old and a loser in life, let’s just ignore him …
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:29 am
I’m Sikh , have you guys heard about this white supremacist going into a sikh temple in Wisconsin and opening fire on all the worshippers?? yet I’m here still thinking about just him only and not connecting him with other white folks and calling them the same, let’s start judging people as individuals instead of freaking pitting them in a group together, there are f8cked up people everywhere, past is past, A lot of SIKH people were killed by Hindus in 1984 in India and i held hate in my heart for all Hindu’s until i grew up and realized that there just a few people from that group that were bad , i can’t judge all the people the same, Sikhs were killed by British emperor in India before India’s independence, I’m not just going to hate all white folks because some certain idiots were responsible for all that, get a life you phaggots
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the devil uses people to cause division. he loves it when people hate. it’s just evil and it’s easy to do. i don’t hate any people. i think people who commit crimes should be brought to justice. but because i’m white, why should i be associated with someone like fangs, who i don’t have anything in common with? it’s just dumb. i’ve known azzhole whites, blacks, latinos, asians, indians, etc. but i know far more of each that are cool. basically, i’m white, but why would that lump me in with a bilion other whites i don’t know? it’s just basic stupidity. there are racist idiots in every community.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
So Dr_robert, if you were GM of this team and you got about 20-30 Million in cap space in off-season, and most of the draft picks and some players you could trade for draft picks, what kinda moves would you make to give this team better chance of making the playoffs in 2013?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
======= 700,000 SIGNATURES FOR SECESSION SAYS YOU DON’T KNOW $HIT….GO LIVE WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD SCUM…SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST….WE ARE KEEPING OUR RACE PURE FROM THAT TRASH.
i would love it if all the white trash seceded. we could have a nice successful country with no racist scumbags. it would be fantastic.
guarantee u live in poverty and are NOT part of the first world.
guarantee u ARE on some sort of government assistance.
who’s to blame. must be a bunch of black people u have never met. it couldn’t have anything to do with ur lack of education or intelligence. ur scummy appearance when u go to get a job. ur overall stupidity. ======= SUCCESSFUL LIKE HAITI? OR DETROIT?….WITHOUT WHITES THE BABOON IS DOOMED…PLEASE TAKE THEM ALL
November 24th, 2012 at 1:37 am
Aryanation Says:
====== YOU HAVE NO ANSWER TO THE NUMBERS AND FACTS I PRESENT….JUST CHILDISH BABBLE THAT YOUR JEW MASTERS TAUGHT YOU TO RECITE….WHAT A MORON
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LOL!
first of al, i’ve seen u toss out lots of statistics and all of them are lies. u wouldn’t know a fact if it bit u in the azz.
my jew masters? that’s a good one. u don’t know anything about me. i’m a Christian. i have no master but God.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:38 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am
======= 700,000 SIGNATURES FOR SECESSION SAYS YOU DON’T KNOW $HIT….GO LIVE WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD SCUM…SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST….WE ARE KEEPING OUR RACE PURE FROM THAT TRASH.
i would love it if all the white trash seceded. we could have a nice successful country with no racist scumbags. it would be fantastic.
guarantee u live in poverty and are NOT part of the first world.
guarantee u ARE on some sort of government assistance.
who’s to blame. must be a bunch of black people u have never met. it couldn’t have anything to do with ur lack of education or intelligence. ur scummy appearance when u go to get a job. ur overall stupidity. ======= SUCCESSFUL LIKE HAITI? OR DETROIT?….WITHOUT WHITES THE BABOON IS DOOMED…PLEASE TAKE THEM ALL
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i’ll take the blacks and u can have all the white trash. bye.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:39 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:29 am
I’m Sikh , have you guys heard about this white supremacist going into a sikh temple in Wisconsin and opening fire on all the worshippers?? yet I’m here still thinking about just him only and not connecting him with other white folks and calling them the same, let’s start judging people as individuals instead of freaking pitting them in a group together, there are f8cked up people everywhere, past is past, A lot of SIKH people were killed by Hindus in 1984 in India and i held hate in my heart for all Hindu’s until i grew up and realized that there just a few people from that group that were bad , i can’t judge all the people the same, Sikhs were killed by British emperor in India before India’s independence, I’m not just going to hate all white folks because some certain idiots were responsible for all that, get a life you phaggots
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the devil uses people to cause division. he loves it when people hate. it’s just evil and it’s easy to do. i don’t hate any people. i think people who commit crimes should be brought to justice. but because i’m white, why should i be associated with someone like fangs, who i don’t have anything in common with? it’s just dumb. i’ve known azzhole whites, blacks, latinos, asians, indians, etc. but i know far more of each that are cool. basically, i’m white, but why would that lump me in with a bilion other whites i don’t know? it’s just basic stupidity. there are racist idiots in every community.
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Exactly , watch Mistic come in here tomorrow and call us all Racists all because of Fangs even though we hate everything he posts in here, that’s just thinking of narrow minded people, this is why world will never has not made progress after years and years of Human life, until people get education and stop f8cking signing up for this kinda bs to fight other groups of people this world would never change
November 24th, 2012 at 1:40 am
Just ignore Fangs, he’s just an idiot, lets talk about Raiders
November 24th, 2012 at 1:42 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Lmao @ post 608 did you really just say that? Like your people really didn’t rape kidnap and murder thousands ontop of enslaving them? and whats worse is when you hear about kids going to school and murdering entire campuses, shooting up theatres or raping children its always someone who looks like you. Smh so whos the real crook? But i understand you’re just a miserable piece of trash who needs attention because hes old and lonely so im not gonna give you any more pleasure by entertaining your shananagans any longer. ======== GUESS WHAT….YOU WERE A SLAVE IN AFRICA BEFORE YOUR WORTHLESS A$$ WAS BOUGHT AND SHIPPED HERE….ONCE THE COTTON GIN WAS INVENTED YOU BECAME USELESS FARM EQUIPMENT….LINCOLN WANT TO SEND YOU ALL BACK BUT THE JEW SHOT HIM….NOW WERE STUCK WITH A RACE OF CRIMINALS & FREELOADERS……THE CIVIL WAR CAN’T START SOON ENOUGH
November 24th, 2012 at 1:43 am
@Post 616. Did you really just ask me that? See i knew you were a 60 year old virgin that explains why you’re so angry and up tight. If i wasnt getting any id be upset too. Itd be easier if you grew a pair though, women dont like guys wit lil sticks and no balls. Lol but since you wanna know how to get a lady pregnant you’ve come to the right place who better to ask than the mack? Aha but yea I take my big black cack the lord blessed me with because he favors me so dearly, and slam thang that thang up in there slap her @$$, pull her hair and the whole nine. I take it out and buss on her back never come in her cus i dont love her she just my bottom and most loyal. I just like to f white women couldn’t really see myself marrying one tho… And about them 50,000 rounds… so you think you’re the only one with acess to assault weapons? Lmao
November 24th, 2012 at 1:45 am
YOU CAN’T NAME ONE THING THE BABOON HAS CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY OR INVENTED…….ITS ALL MADE BY THE WHITE RACE….TIME TO GET RID OF THE WASTE.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:46 am
I’m out, night nation
November 24th, 2012 at 1:50 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:43 am
@Post 616. Did you really just ask me that? See i knew you were a 60 year old virgin that explains why you’re so angry and up tight. If i wasnt getting any id be upset too. Itd be easier if you grew a pair though, women dont like guys wit lil sticks and no balls. Lol but since you wanna know how to get a lady pregnant you’ve come to the right place who better to ask than the mack? Aha but yea I take my big black cack the lord blessed me with because he favors me so dearly, and slam thang that thang up in there slap her @$$, pull her hair and the whole nine. I take it out and buss on her back never come in her cus i dont love her she just my bottom and most loyal. I just like to f white women couldn’t really see myself marrying one tho… And about them 50,000 rounds… so you think you’re the only one with acess to assault weapons? Lmao ========== BIG MUH DIK AND LITTLE MONKEY BRAIN…MAKES YOU INFERIOR………STILL CAN’T ANSWER THE QUESTION…ALL YOU BABOONS CAN DO IS GRAP YOUR CROTCH AND SQUEAL…..WORTHLESS AIDS INFESTED ANIMALS
November 24th, 2012 at 1:52 am
HOW MANY MONGRELS DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU CAN’T SUPPORT?…ITS WHAT YOU DO BEST…BESIDE RAPE & MURDER
November 24th, 2012 at 1:53 am
But alright Mc20 I got you bro, lets talk raiders my bad. I let him hook me and bring me down to his level. But yea if we get creamed again sunday and hue gets a Gatorade bath will you finally change your mind about DA? Lol
November 24th, 2012 at 1:54 am
OBAMMY IS WHITE !!! THAT’S WHAT HIS WHITE MOTHER SAYS!!!!SORRY BABOON YOU LOSE AGAIN
November 24th, 2012 at 1:56 am
mack & mc20….a nig & muslim…a match made in heaven
November 24th, 2012 at 1:57 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
So Dr_robert, if you were GM of this team and you got about 20-30 Million in cap space in off-season, and most of the draft picks and some players you could trade for draft picks, what kinda moves would you make to give this team better chance of making the playoffs in 2013?
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ok, football.
i would keep these players:
veldheer
wiz (back to guard)
barnes (decent player)
bergstrom
nix
myers
ausberry
gordon
moore
dhb
hagan
streeter
criner
ford (returner)
leinart (solid backup with experience)
pryor
goodson
stewart
reece
shaugnessy
houston
bilukidi
bryant
crawford
burris
wheeler
bartell (can’t go all youth at CB)
branch (i still like him)
hanson (experienced nickel not too bad)
seabass
condo
king
i would dump these players:
brisiel
carlisle
smith
parsons
schmitt
jones
seymour
kelly
tollefson
carter
clayton (don’t know much about him i would if he was any good)
gaither
goethel
adams
ross (don’t know much about him i would if he was any good)
franzies
huff
goirdano (just too slow)
mitchell
lechler
trade:
dmc
palmer
mcclain
that’s 32 players i would keep. 29 new guys for next season is a lot.
i love palmer and i still am on the fence about dmc, but i would try to get as many picks in the draft as possible. we need 12.
i would concentrate on these positions early in the draft:
pass rusher OLB/DE
OL
DB
MLB
the defense needs lots of help. the skill guys on offense are talented and young.
i hate to trade palmer but if he returned some good picks, that might be more valuable. basically, this team needs a huge influx of talent.
i would go after someone like tebow, claussen, mccoy, gabbert, or cousins. a former top pick to compete with pryor. but build up the OL and DL.
in free agency, i would go put most of my money into the secondary. get me a corner and a safety to pair with branch and bartell. draft some youngsters to develop. but u need vets in the secondary if u want a quick change. whereas rookies can contribute on the lines moreso.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:59 am
WE BUILD 1,500 FOOT SKYSCRAPERS…YOU BUILD THIS = http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00007/F_200701_January11ed__7622a.jpg ======= BAAWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and take baths in cow piss.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:04 am
LETS LOOK AT THE NFL ARREST RECORD THE LAST 5 MONTHS = ALL BABOONS!!!! WHAT A SUPRISE!!!! Date Team Position Name Incident Resolution
8/11/2012 Dolphins WR Chad Johnson Arrested on a misdemeanor domestic violence charge for allegedly head-butting his wife during an argument. Released by the Dolphins.
7/21/2012 Detroit CB Aaron Berry Arrested on three charges of simple assault. Cut by team 2 days later.
7/20/2012 Tennessee WR Kenny Britt Arrested and charged with DUI as he attempted to pass through a security gate at the Fort Campbell Army base.
7/19/2012 Kansas City CB Donald Washington Arrested in Effingham, Ill., charged with driving under the influence of drugs, marijuana possession, driving on a suspended license and speeding.
7/18/2012 Cowboys WR Dez Bryant Arrested on a misdemeanor family violence charge in DeSoto, Texas, after his mother called 911 and said her son had hit her.
7/14/2012 Seattle RB Marshawn Lynch Arrested on suspicion of DUI in Northern California.
7/14/2012 Denver LB Elvis Dumervil Arrested in Miami on charges of aggravated assault with a firearm.
7/13/2012 Jacksonville DE Odrick Ray Arrested for outstanding traffic warrants after a traffic stop by police in Tulsa, Okla.
7/10/2012 St. Louis DE Robert Quinn Charged with drunken driving in suburban St. Louis.
7/8/2012 Philadelphia RB Dion Lewis Arrested in Albany, N.Y., and charged with falsely reporting a fire and misdemeanor reckless endangerment after being locked out of his hotel room. Charges dropped.
7/7/2012 Minnesota RB Adrian Peterson Arrested and charged with resisting arrest at a Houston nightclub.
7/2/2012 Tampa Bay CB Eric Wright Arrested in Los Angeles on suspicion of DUI after the car he was driving rear-ended a pickup truck near the Staples Center in Los Angeles. District Attorney did not file charges.
7/1/2012 Cleveland DT Kiante Tripp Arrested in an Atlanta suburb on a felony burglary charge.
6/23/2012 Detroit CB Aaron Berry Arrested on suspicion of DUI after allegedly driving into several parked cars in Pennsylvania. Assigned to diversionary program. ========= EVEN WITH MONEY THE BABOON IS STILL A CRIMINAL…SO ALL THOSE YEARS OF CRYING “WE’S ROB CAUSE WE’S IS POOR” WAS JUST ANOTHER BABOON LIE……1,000,0000 IN PRISON PROVES IT !!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Aryanation Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:59 am
WE BUILD 1,500 FOOT SKYSCRAPERS…YOU BUILD THIS = http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00007/F_200701_January11ed__7622a.jpg ======= BAAWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and take baths in cow piss.
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no, u never built a skyscraper. other people did. why are u trying to take credit for it? i bet they don’t give u any credit.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:11 am
i meant 21 new players
November 24th, 2012 at 2:12 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:57 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am
So Dr_robert, if you were GM of this team and you got about 20-30 Million in cap space in off-season, and most of the draft picks and some players you could trade for draft picks, what kinda moves would you make to give this team better chance of making the playoffs in 2013?
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ok, football.
i would keep these players:
veldheer
wiz (back to guard)
barnes (decent player)
bergstrom
nix
myers
ausberry
gordon
moore
dhb
hagan
streeter
criner
ford (returner)
leinart (solid backup with experience)
pryor
goodson
stewart
reece
shaugnessy
houston
bilukidi
bryant
crawford
burris
wheeler
bartell (can’t go all youth at CB)
branch (i still like him)
hanson (experienced nickel not too bad)
seabass
condo
king
i would dump these players:
brisiel
carlisle
smith
parsons
schmitt
jones
seymour
kelly
tollefson
carter
clayton (don’t know much about him i would if he was any good)
gaither
goethel
adams
ross (don’t know much about him i would if he was any good)
franzies
huff
goirdano (just too slow)
mitchell
lechler
trade:
dmc
palmer
mcclain
that’s 32 players i would keep. 29 new guys for next season is a lot.
i love palmer and i still am on the fence about dmc, but i would try to get as many picks in the draft as possible. we need 12.
i would concentrate on these positions early in the draft:
pass rusher OLB/DE
OL
DB
MLB
the defense needs lots of help. the skill guys on offense are talented and young.
i hate to trade palmer but if he returned some good picks, that might be more valuable. basically, this team needs a huge influx of talent.
i would go after someone like tebow, claussen, mccoy, gabbert, or cousins. a former top pick to compete with pryor. but build up the OL and DL.
in free agency, i would go put most of my money into the secondary. get me a corner and a safety to pair with branch and bartell. draft some youngsters to develop. but u need vets in the secondary if u want a quick change. whereas rookies can contribute on the lines moreso.
- Agree on most of your points except the Palmer trade and that you believe our receiving corps couldn’t use a legit #1 WR, Here’s how i see it , If you got great D and average O , you are playoff/SB team , you got great O and average D, you are playoff/SB team , you can’t expect our D to make jumps by leaps and bounds and take over the games even with our qb’s ineffectiveness , the best thing would be to get a few OL and #1 Wr to make us good O and make whatever improvements you can make on D side to get us atleast to above average D/ good D, If both unit can be good that’s still playoff/SB team
November 24th, 2012 at 2:17 am
All of the playoff teams have atleast one great strength on their team, either their D is great, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, NYG, SF or their O is great NE, GB, NO ,INDY, not many playoff teams are just average/above average on both sides of the fields
November 24th, 2012 at 2:17 am
Doc you really cant consider trading palmer and dmac if you dont have an idea of who you wabt to trade for or else youd be trading them just for the sake of trading them. Even though you may be unhappy with them they’re still dynamic players and the last thing youd want to do is trade them and not get equal compensation for them. Like i hear people saying trade dmac for a 2nd or 3rd but what if that 2nd or 3rd bust out like a mike mitchell or thomas Howard and dmac goes on and all of a sudden overcomes his injury plague? You just traded a top 5 rb for stew schuagert. And im skeptical about trading dmac because though hes been injured they’ve been minor injuries. Its not like he tore an acl, mcl, patella, or broke a hip. His injuries have all been things that you could bounce back from, and injuries that wont hamper your career or slow you down. So when he comes back hes still going to be dynamic.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:18 am
my lineup for next year:
veldheer-wiz-FA-bergstrom-barnes
myers-moore-dhb-streater
pryor/claussen-reece
shaughnessy-bryant-FA-draft pick
wheeler-FA/draft-burris
bartell-branch-FA-FA
seabass-king-condo
November 24th, 2012 at 2:21 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:17 am
Doc you really cant consider trading palmer and dmac if you dont have an idea of who you wabt to trade for or else youd be trading them just for the sake of trading them. Even though you may be unhappy with them they’re still dynamic players and the last thing youd want to do is trade them and not get equal compensation for them. Like i hear people saying trade dmac for a 2nd or 3rd but what if that 2nd or 3rd bust out like a mike mitchell or thomas Howard and dmac goes on and all of a sudden overcomes his injury plague? You just traded a top 5 rb for stew schuagert. And im skeptical about trading dmac because though hes been injured they’ve been minor injuries. Its not like he tore an acl, mcl, patella, or broke a hip. His injuries have all been things that you could bounce back from, and injuries that wont hamper your career or slow you down. So when he comes back hes still going to be dynamic.
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But the funny thing is he has been getting injured on same type of injuries just before half-season in every one of his seasons, hard to believe all that will be corrected, if we can fetch a good draft pick for him , it’s still worth trying to get what we can get instead of praying for him to do something he has never done in his career which is stay healthy
November 24th, 2012 at 2:24 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:18 am
my lineup for next year:
veldheer-wiz-FA-bergstrom-barnes
myers-moore-dhb-streater
pryor/claussen-reece
shaughnessy-bryant-FA-draft pick
wheeler-FA/draft-burris
bartell-branch-FA-FA
seabass-king-condo
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I wouldn’t go into season with Pryor and Claussen as my QB’s, and i would def try to put a better player in place of Shaughnessy , get #1 WR through FA, rest i agree with you, I agree on your Oline , i actually never thought like that, that makes sense and it saves some draft picks, still could see them giving Huff a go at CB full time next year, because you really can’t rely on Bartell to stay healthy
November 24th, 2012 at 2:28 am
And another thing, remember all through college Adrian Peterson battled injuries? Now imagine if Minnesota would have passed on him because of 2 unlucky years? Im telling you guys, trading Dmaqc would be a biiiiiig mistake, hes still only 25 and has never had Major injury. I wouldnt trade him unless i was getting a proven star like a patri k willis, aldon smith, or jj watt in return.Kinda like when denver traded Clinton portis for champ Bailey.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:29 am
don’t get me wrong. i think palmer is really good. best player on the team at this point. and he’s got a few good years left. a very talented true qb.
as for dmc, i wasn’t sold on him when he was drafted. then he looked like sh!t. then he amazed. now he’s back to sh!t. i do think injuries can f@ck up a skill player. he’s a thoroughbred and he’s has a lot off injuries. i wouldn’t say minor either. not acl, but he’s missed a lot of time. i just don’t think he’s ever going to be a great back. and here’s a perfect chance to trade from strength. reece is cheap and good. just like houston found cheap backs and denver used to.
the reason i would entertain trading them is to get multiple picks. yes, some picks miss. but if we’re gonna do this, we have to sell out. we need LOTS of picks. if reggie is a good evaluator, then do it! similar to the herschell walker trade that completely overhauled the cowboys.
as for receiver, i do like moore but i’m not sure he’s a #1. but he might be. it will be his 3rd year next season and that’s the breakout year for wr’s. he’s shown some really good things. dhb is questionable. but he isn’t bad. streater and criner are young and big. they’ve shown flashes. none are #1’s yet, but i think there is enuff to work with. myself, i would go with more 2te sets and use ausberry, another guy who will be in his 3rd season.
i think we have to make sure the OL is beefed up. with better protection and more holes, the offense could develop. i’m not against keeping palmer. i would just see what we could get and if it was a lot, i might do it.
defense needs a pass rush. it needs strength in the middle. and it needs guys who can cover. free agency won’t be enough. we need lots of picks and a few key free agents.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:30 am
Only reason i can see the team moving on from Palmer is due to salary situation ,or we get great trade offer from another team , i just don’t see us with another QB next year because there isn’t one qb that’s going to be available in FA who’s better than Palmer, Draft is crap shoot and none of the prospects are anywhere near the level of Luck and Griffin, but if we do let Palmer go , due to salary cap complications or trade offer we couldn’t refuse, i would try to get Fitzpatrick from Buffalo, Fitz >> Jason Campbell
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 am
Trade Palmer to the Cardinals, who had success with an old vet before (Warner). Can offload the salary that Palmer commands.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:37 am
u make a good point about qb availability. i don’t think there’s much available that would be an upgrade over palmer. so i would be careful. i just think if a team like arizona offered a 2nd and a 3rd, and maybe a 6th, we might have to do it.
a lot depends on the current regime’s opinion on pryor. at this point, it doesn’t seem they are high on him.
but mark davis’s remarks are interesting. he was very vague but said he had an opinion but it wasn’t his place to say. hmm.
of course, i would be less than ecstatic if we went into the season with claussen, mccoy, tebow, or cousins. just because they are all unproven or have failed so far. but if reggie really always liked one of them and wanted to give them a second shot, it might work. of course, he could bring one in as the backup.
but it’s probable that palmer will be back.
and hopefully we’ll get another look at dmc this season in order to compare him to reece. but if he’s out for the rest of the season, then i’d say he’s probably dealt or released.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:39 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:28 am
And another thing, remember all through college Adrian Peterson battled injuries? Now imagine if Minnesota would have passed on him because of 2 unlucky years? Im telling you guys, trading Dmaqc would be a biiiiiig mistake, hes still only 25 and has never had Major injury. I wouldnt trade him unless i was getting a proven star like a patri k willis, aldon smith, or jj watt in return.Kinda like when denver traded Clinton portis for champ Bailey.
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IT’S okay to keep a Injure prone player when you have great team and have a lot of salary cap to sign good players, but since we ain’t in that boat, we really can’t afford to take chances on him , we can’t afford to dole out 6 M a year on a guy who might just get injured in preseason and miss the whole year, He is in final year of his contract, next year he probably won’t even come back to Raiders and no way i can see Raiders all of a sudden becoming one of the teams with huge salary cap , all that money could be used in signing a guy to sore up our main weakness, pass rush or if we get a good trade offer, we might find our JJ Watts in 2nd round and shore up that pass rush, I just don’t see Mcfadden staying healthy next year, and even if he does and end up having a beast year, I don’t think we will be able to bring him back with huge contract he will demand
November 24th, 2012 at 2:40 am
if reggie feels we can get it fixed in a hurry, then by all means, keep palmer. legit qb’s are hard to find. although these days, it seems every team has a good one.
but if he feels it needs to be overhauled, then load up on draft picks and dump every big salary and guy over 30 that u can. over 28 even.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:41 am
Cmon bro… your name is Mc20 for a reason.lol You saw what the man was capable of and he turned you into a believer, why turn your back on him now? I mean its just unfortunate…. but in my mind hes still too young and has too much shelf life left to turn away from just yet. Id say give him 2 more years and if he still gets hurt hes only 27 and has value but not 25 hes still in his prime. And i played football so i understand the harder you go the easier it is to get hurt, and you have to admit he plays thee hardest when he is on the field.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:42 am
remember that in the zbs, rb’s are a dime a dozen. they have short shelf lives. and dmc, like it or not, has had a very injury-plagued career.
and let’s no forget how horrible he looked this year when he was supposedly healthy. i mean i just don’t think he looked that good.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:44 am
sometimes u have to cut bait. especially if reece continues to look really good.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:44 am
But if we trade Palmer we are at same position as we are at now , I just think our O is more close to becoming an elite unit than the D is , if we can add better Oline starters and #1 WR to go with Better Offensive coordinator and better coaches on that side, we have chance to become a top unit, I don’t think D will be elite anytime soon , but i can see them becoming above average to good if we can add couple of full time pass rushers and a good starter in secondary and improve the depth
November 24th, 2012 at 2:46 am
let’s say this happens:
reece gets off this week to the tune of 130 combined yards and a td.
dmc comes back next week. he averages 3 yards a carry against the browns and gets about 35 total on 10-12 carries. but reece gets 10 carries and gets about 50.
and that continues for the next couple weeks.
what then?
November 24th, 2012 at 2:47 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:44 am
But if we trade Palmer we are at same position as we are at now , I just think our O is more close to becoming an elite unit than the D is , if we can add better Oline starters and #1 WR to go with Better Offensive coordinator and better coaches on that side, we have chance to become a top unit, I don’t think D will be elite anytime soon , but i can see them becoming above average to good if we can add couple of full time pass rushers and a good starter in secondary and improve the depth
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u may be right about that. believe me, i’m not thrilled about trading him.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:49 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:41 am
Cmon bro… your name is Mc20 for a reason.lol You saw what the man was capable of and he turned you into a believer, why turn your back on him now? I mean its just unfortunate…. but in my mind hes still too young and has too much shelf life left to turn away from just yet. Id say give him 2 more years and if he still gets hurt hes only 27 and has value but not 25 hes still in his prime. And i played football so i understand the harder you go the easier it is to get hurt, and you have to admit he plays thee hardest when he is on the field.
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But he’s in his contract year, if he gets injured again , we are left paying him his 6 M a year which could have been better used in improving our D, or drafting some guy with potential , if he performs at HOF level, we are never going to have enough cap space to go into bidding war with other teams with more cap space for his services, unless he gives us home town discount, which i don’t see him doing that , We’re at loss – loss situation with him, Unless he guarantess a SB (if Healthy) next year, i wouldn’t hold onto him
November 24th, 2012 at 2:49 am
by the way, this occurred to me earlier today:
palmer is 32 and will be 33 at the start of next season. too old to command a high pick?
brandon wheeden will be 30 early next season. he was just picked in the first round.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 am
actually, i’m not sure what we could get for palmer. he will be 33. so a team trading for him will get him for maybe 4 years. will we be a contender in that time? i sure hope so.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 am
This is why you start Pryor the rest of the season after you give Palmer his shot at his former team. You see if Pryor can be your franchise guy. And giving him 5 games to start now will expediate his learning for next year.
Trade Palmer (cardinals), McFadden (cowboys), Shaughnessy, Brisiel, and whomever else you can that’s on contract and isnt a keeper, accrue some extra picks.
Draft LT, Center and NT in the early rounds.
Draft LB, S, CB, in the middle rounds.
Draft OG, and 3-4 DEs in the latter rounds.
Acquire in FA/trade someone like Pierre Thomas, a vet WR, keep Leinart as Pryor’s back-up, and some other core back-up vet LBs and Safeties.
Clean out the coaching staff, whether you keep Allen or not.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:55 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:47 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:44 am
But if we trade Palmer we are at same position as we are at now , I just think our O is more close to becoming an elite unit than the D is , if we can add better Oline starters and #1 WR to go with Better Offensive coordinator and better coaches on that side, we have chance to become a top unit, I don’t think D will be elite anytime soon , but i can see them becoming above average to good if we can add couple of full time pass rushers and a good starter in secondary and improve the depth
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u may be right about that. believe me, i’m not thrilled about trading him
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I mean look at it this way, of all the playoff teams you can look at from past, they had one great unit either O or D, and we all know the ceiling for our D next year is going from Beyond pathetic to is just average/above average/good they ain’t becoming elite any time soon , our O is more likely to become elite with addition of better Oline starters #1 WR, better coaches which with average to above average D gives us a chance to make the playoffs and fight for SB, we would not be talking about playoffs with average O and average D
November 24th, 2012 at 3:00 am
I’m not against trading Palmer i just don’t see any Qb giving us better performance then he is, even if Pryor shows he can start games in the NFL, i don’t think he will start performing like a top QB anytime soon, I mean i think we have a chance to compete for playoffs next year if add a few pieces, when we will have some breathing room in cap space and some draft picks, why would we just let Palmer go , when was the last time who let their good starting QB go in a year where they could do some damage in place of their unproven 3rd string QB?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:00 am
GG Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 am
This is why you start Pryor the rest of the season after you give Palmer his shot at his former team. You see if Pryor can be your franchise guy. And giving him 5 games to start now will expediate his learning for next year.
Trade Palmer (cardinals), McFadden (cowboys), Shaughnessy, Brisiel, and whomever else you can that’s on contract and isnt a keeper, accrue some extra picks.
Draft LT, Center and NT in the early rounds.
Draft LB, S, CB, in the middle rounds.
Draft OG, and 3-4 DEs in the latter rounds.
Acquire in FA/trade someone like Pierre Thomas, a vet WR, keep Leinart as Pryor’s back-up, and some other core back-up vet LBs and Safeties.
Clean out the coaching staff, whether you keep Allen or not.
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but the only way u sit palmer is if u have decided he won’t be back. then u lessen his trade value. if anything, u want him to approach 5k yards and 30 td’s so a team like arizona would be salivating at the thought of him throwing to fitzgerald. because if u sit palmer, there is no turning back.
and the staff clearly is not high on pryor. he’s inactive every game. they won’t even use him in the wildcat. they have not said one positive thing about him all year.
they have seen him in practice. they see his mechanics. they’re just not sold. he may be released or converted in the offseason.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:01 am
when was the last team a team let their good starting QB go **&&
November 24th, 2012 at 3:02 am
Mc20 every player suffers the possibility of being hurt during preseason, hell they suffer the possibility of being hurt in practice. No player in this league is exempt from injuries. Mike goodson out, s!ht happens. But i wat hed dmac in college too and was enamored by his ability, and he was highly durable then too. Heisman runner up 2 years running. I believe hes going to get over the injury bug eventually as ap did, so we should keep him. Our offense is basically built around him. To trade him would be silly , on a team with little talent you dont trade the little talent you do have you add to it. Get him another weapon to free up some space for him so he doesn’t have to take so many hits. I understand you guys frustration because of the injuries but i just dont think trading him would be an idea. And with how important Dmac is to this O they’ll franchise him him before they let him walk i believe.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:03 am
actually, u have convinced me mcfadden20. as i’m thinking about the prospect of going into next season with a rookie or young unproven guy, or even worse, a mediocre vet, i would hold onto palmer and try desperately to fix the line and running game. and yes, depending on who is available, maybe give him a bigtime wr. but it has to a really good one. not this yearly flirtation with TO, ocho, plaxico, and whatever other washed up wr is around.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:00 am
GG Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 am
This is why you start Pryor the rest of the season after you give Palmer his shot at his former team. You see if Pryor can be your franchise guy. And giving him 5 games to start now will expediate his learning for next year.
Trade Palmer (cardinals), McFadden (cowboys), Shaughnessy, Brisiel, and whomever else you can that’s on contract and isnt a keeper, accrue some extra picks.
Draft LT, Center and NT in the early rounds.
Draft LB, S, CB, in the middle rounds.
Draft OG, and 3-4 DEs in the latter rounds.
Acquire in FA/trade someone like Pierre Thomas, a vet WR, keep Leinart as Pryor’s back-up, and some other core back-up vet LBs and Safeties.
Clean out the coaching staff, whether you keep Allen or not.
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but the only way u sit palmer is if u have decided he won’t be back. then u lessen his trade value. if anything, u want him to approach 5k yards and 30 td’s so a team like arizona would be salivating at the thought of him throwing to fitzgerald. because if u sit palmer, there is no turning back.
and the staff clearly is not high on pryor. he’s inactive every game. they won’t even use him in the wildcat. they have not said one positive thing about him all year.
they have seen him in practice. they see his mechanics. they’re just not sold. he may be released or converted in the offseason.
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excellent post , I like to add a few thoughts into that, the other reason they sit Palmer is if they think the team lacks major talent to compete for playoffs even with him and might take a few more years of rebuilding before than think about playoffs , then i can live without him and go with painful year with Pryor or which ever QB they draft, but i think they just have to get that D to atleast above average and add a few pieces to this O with ofcourse better coaches on that side, then we would be talking about how far we can go into the playoffs at this time of the year next year
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 am
i would never have drafted dmc. too thin thru the hips and legs. jst looks like a sprinter. angular player. peterson looks like the prototypical rb. i told people then that i though he was gonna be great and it was ridiculous for him to fall.
i hope dmc returns this season and lights it up. that would mean he and our line have a future. but my personal feeling is he’s done.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 am
He doesn’t get any 1st or 2nd team reps in practice. He only throws to the practice squad guys, is used on the scout team for the defense, and used in those warm up drills where there’s no OL and Defense and you just throw balls to receivers warming up.
No matter what the coaches say, they have not sufficient data on Pryor to make such a valuation. The only reason a #3 is #3 is because they don’t know the playbook sufficiently to be relied on running a full complex gameplan in live games. It’s merely the study side of it that keeps them there. The only way to know how someone can play in live games is by putting them in live games. Naturally, you give them little by little (vanilla playbook), and see if they progress from game to game, how they respond in that important period post-game to pre-game working out their kinks, fixing areas that the coaching staff wants addressed.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:12 am
If he deserves it pay the man. We’re paying Tommy Kelly 50 mill on a bottom ranked D if dmac performs next season stays healthy and our O is top 10 youd be crazy not to pay him. Being Cheap gets your heart broke breaking bread brings home the gold.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:13 am
And a team like the Cardinals dont need to see Palmer all the way thru the remaining 5 games. They already know he’s a top tier QB with a 10 year resume. In fact, it’s probably better to sit Palmer and keep his arm healthy. Last game vs Saints his arm was clearly struggling. Struggled for zip on the ball, floating balls, underthrowing a lot of receivers. If you continue wearing him out throwing 60 times a game it will only raise doubts for the Cardinals.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:14 am
GG Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 am
He doesn’t get any 1st or 2nd team reps in practice. He only throws to the practice squad guys, is used on the scout team for the defense, and used in those warm up drills where there’s no OL and Defense and you just throw balls to receivers warming up.
No matter what the coaches say, they have not sufficient data on Pryor to make such a valuation. The only reason a #3 is #3 is because they don’t know the playbook sufficiently to be relied on running a full complex gameplan in live games. It’s merely the study side of it that keeps them there. The only way to know how someone can play in live games is by putting them in live games. Naturally, you give them little by little (vanilla playbook), and see if they progress from game to game, how they respond in that important period post-game to pre-game working out their kinks, fixing areas that the coaching staff wants addressed.
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all very true. but here are the current possibilities:
1) palmer is here to stay. if so, then they don’t give a sh!t what pryor can do. he’s just in their plans.
2) they are thinking of trading palmer. then he has to play it out to maximize his trade value. believe me. if he ends up with 4800 yards and 28 td’s, there will be a lot of teams who think they’re a qb away, thinking about trying to get him. he will be like gold.
pryor is kinda fu@ked. he was drafted by al davis to be the qb of the future. but then hue went and got palmer. pryor is raw but talented. he basically needs more camps and preseason games. there is no way, based on the two scenarios above, that pryor will get real playing time this season.
so at best, he would be going into next season hoping to compete with whatever other guy they brought in after they traded palmer.
but if they keep palmer, then pryor has time to develop and we get to see him in preseason again.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:02 am
Mc20 every player suffers the possibility of being hurt during preseason, hell they suffer the possibility of being hurt in practice. No player in this league is exempt from injuries. Mike goodson out, s!ht happens. But i wat hed dmac in college too and was enamored by his ability, and he was highly durable then too. Heisman runner up 2 years running. I believe hes going to get over the injury bug eventually as ap did, so we should keep him. Our offense is basically built around him. To trade him would be silly , on a team with little talent you dont trade the little talent you do have you add to it. Get him another weapon to free up some space for him so he doesn’t have to take so many hits. I understand you guys frustration because of the injuries but i just dont think trading him would be an idea. And with how important Dmac is to this O they’ll franchise him him before they let him walk i believe.
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You know it would be one thing if he usually got injured on hard hits like AP gets on every rushing play,which you can’t really do much about but this guy just doesn’t even seem to have his head in the game anymore, he goes down way easily on very first contact and this is like the 4th year in a row he got injured on a simple one on one tackle, plus if you keep him and he goes onto have very big year, I guarantee you some team will give him some 6 year contract worth 80 Millions which we won’t be able to match, and we would just sit there and wonder if could have just traded him for a draft pick, we not only could have drafted a player to help our D but we could have used the salary we saved in bringing in a better FA
November 24th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] McFadden, Goodson and Seymour not playing Sunday The Raiders will be without Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour for the third straight game. All three missed practice Friday before being declared out for Sunday’s game against the Cinci… [...]
November 24th, 2012 at 3:17 am
bottom line—they only sit palmer if they have decided to move on. that only happens if a guy is struggling, which palmer is not. u can’t sit him and bring him back. what’s the point?
“hey carson, we’re gonna bring u back, don’t worry. but we wanna see what this kid can do.”
“but why do u care if ur bringing me back? let me continue to develop these receivers.”
u see? it’s either palmer OR pryor. i can’t see them going with pryor right now. there is nothing suggesting that.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 am
Post 688 skinny legs or not he runs hard kno ks people back and has one of the meanest stiff arm in the game. Hes no slouch, or average player, hes elite bro. Injuries is the only true knock on him.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:19 am
Knocks*
November 24th, 2012 at 3:21 am
dmc is what u call “brittle”. turf toe. bad feet. bad ankles. he’s bony and angular. the pounding of the game hurts him. he doesn’t get hurt by hits. he just breaks down. his body isn’t built for it.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:23 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:12 am
If he deserves it pay the man. We’re paying Tommy Kelly 50 mill on a bottom ranked D if dmac performs next season stays healthy and our O is top 10 youd be crazy not to pay him. Being Cheap gets your heart broke breaking bread brings home the gold.
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All good points but that’s the reason our D s8cks and we’re in this mess we blindly threw money at one year wonder who had good seasons in contract years , Kelly is not making any plays our other guy R seymour who we aren’t just paying a lot of money to but also traded a 1st round pick to aquire him, is always injured and never plays full-time, McClain’s performance is no where near his draft status, it all might have to do with him either playing in wrong scheme or with that chrohns disease, smart teams just simple don’t take those kinda risks anymore, where they pay one year wonders or believe a certain guy is over his injury problems after 1 healthy year outta 5 years
November 24th, 2012 at 3:24 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 am
Post 688 skinny legs or not he runs hard kno ks people back and has one of the meanest stiff arm in the game. Hes no slouch, or average player, hes elite bro. Injuries is the only true knock on him.
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yes, he has been elite–for a pretty short time. how many games has he been elite versus ordinary?
and the injuries are a big deal. i mean they kill careers.
i hope he comes back this season and looks great. that would mean he’s still good and it was just a matter of the lone getting it together. joy in raiderville! but how coincidental is it that he looked so bad and reece has looked so good? even goodson looked pretty good when he got carries.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:27 am
We can live with freak injuries on gang tackles and other kinda stuff but when guy is missing half the season 4th year in a row after a simple one on one tackle, it’s time to move on, no matter how great the player is , plus we might be back with ZBS again and he has shown, he can’t be relied to stay healthy for the whole year and can’t be relied to run better in this scheme, we’re better off drafting a RB in late rounds of draft
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Alright I’m out , DR_robert, the Mack , GG , take it easy , Night
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 am
dmc has been a stud in 20 games.
he has been ordianry for 33 games.
he has lost significant time due to injuries in 5 out of 5 seasons.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:30 am
i hope he returns and proves me wrong. good night mcfadden20.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:30 am
Wont have to match that 80 million dollar contract if we franchise him. Lol but yea all i can say is this, if you wont give him another year to prove hiself with injuries atleast give him 1 more chance with a real O coordinator because we both could agree Knapp is a crutch and is holding the O Back. Atleast wait to hold judgement until then i say. All of our offensive stars have regressed under his watch so itd be unfair to judge his final performance under these circumstances.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Lol its pretty clear your mind is made up Doc, im convinced theres nothing i can say that will change your mind. Haha … I will say this though i know for a fact next year when Reggie brings in a worthy offensive coordinator with an imagination Dmac will live up to the hype. You mentioned how he was lousy then good then lousy… both times he was lousy Knapp was Oc and its evident hes incompetent, so like i said I cant change your mind but im positive dmac will with his play when we get the right leadership in here.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Pryor will see action this year. Whether as an active #3, or promoted to #2 and getting 4th Qtrs, or whether starting in the final handful of games when mathematically eliminated.
And Mark Davis intimated as much in his interview. And said he’s always talking to Reggie. I would bet he has advised Reggie to get the guy more involved.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:44 am
But im calling it a night, good night you guys
November 24th, 2012 at 3:48 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:24 am
The Mack Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 am
Post 688 skinny legs or not he runs hard kno ks people back and has one of the meanest stiff arm in the game. Hes no slouch, or average player, hes elite bro. Injuries is the only true knock on him.
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yes, he has been elite–for a pretty short time. how many games has he been elite versus ordinary?
and the injuries are a big deal. i mean they kill careers.
i hope he comes back this season and looks great. that would mean he’s still good and it was just a matter of the lone getting it together. joy in raiderville! but how coincidental is it that he looked so bad and reece has looked so good? even goodson looked pretty good when he got carries.
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I said before the season started that DMAC would struggle in Knapp’s scheme. It’s not that the schemes are bad. They just don’t fit with the personnel!!
November 24th, 2012 at 4:34 am
good to read that DMo17 is being held accountable and has assumed blame for his recent mistakes…
that should lend itself well when we play Cincy tomorrow and Palmer to Moore & Heyward-Bey resembles Dan Marino throwing to Clayton & Duper!!
November 24th, 2012 at 4:36 am
whats up, Mav?
I heard Alex Smith has been cleared to play against the Saints tomorrow …
remember last time he faced New Orleans he lit them up like a Christmas tree. Hopefully Harbaugh hasn’t forgotten that
November 24th, 2012 at 4:48 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Fang come in here spouting racist schit, and nobody says a damned thing.
Mistic draws a crowd, though.
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KK it is shocking to be honest, that guy in comparison to Mistic1 there is no comparison………..one guy professes race hatred proudly and no one says a word. Mistic1 mentions Palmer and the entire board gets in an uproar……..it’s speaks volumns!
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People try and ignore Fangs. He’s an idiot troll with no football takes. Mistic gets attention because he is someone you can try and have a debate with.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:01 am
there are still 6 games to go, but so far this is what I see…
Who stays & who goes this offseason:
STAYS-
Palmer, Reece, Moore, Heyward-Bey, Criner, Streater, Myers, Veldheer & Wisniewski on offense. They have all earned the right to return. Young players such as Pryor, Ausberry, Nix & Bergstrom may be worth keeping around should be try to actually develop football players in Oakland
Shaughnessy, Houston, Bryant, Kelly, Burris, Wheeler & Huff on defense. They have all earned the right to return. Young players such as Crawford, Bilukidi, Ross & Clayton may be worth keeping around for development imo
these guys should all be purged:
Matt Leinart
Darren McFadden (trade?)
Mike Goodson
Taiwan Jones
Owen Schmitt
Derek Hagan
Richard Gordon
Khalif Barnes
Willie Smith
Cooper Carlisle
Mike Brisiel
Alex Parsons
Dave Tollefson
Richard Seymour
Andre Carter
Omar Gaither
Rolando McClain (trade?)
Tyvon Branch (trade?)
Ron Bartell
Coye Francies
Phillip Adams
Matt Giordano
Joselio Hanson
Mike Mitchell
November 24th, 2012 at 5:05 am
Jon, Seabass & Shane are locks in return in 2013 imo
Duke Calhoun
Jacoby Ford
Travis Goethel
Zach Hurd
Marquette King
Mario Kurn
Shawntae Spencer
none of these guys from I.R. should be welcome back
I guess Hagan & Ford could battle with 5 or 6 undrafted rookies for the last remaining WR spot. Christmas is only a month away and i’m feeling generous
November 24th, 2012 at 5:05 am
I’m actually ashamed of Ibabuzz/ContraCosta that they continue to ignore the racism in this blog. The IP of this person Fangs/Aryan should be perma-banned. It reflects extremely poorly on them that they do not come down harder on it.
This blog should actually be upgraded more like SFGate where the comments section requires a registered account, options for facebook sign-in, has some kind of quote/search type functionalities, and is actually moderated (better moderated).
Just remove the racist crap. Poor reflection on the Raiders organization too that a local media outlet such as this, which is also supposedly visited by Raiders employees, continues to allow it and has not upgraded the comments/forum capabilities a la SFGate.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:08 am
is Kaelin Burnett gonna be brought up from the practice squad to replace Aaron Curry on the 53 ??
November 24th, 2012 at 5:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:05 am
Jon, Seabass & Shane are locks in return in 2013 imo
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Lechler is a free agent. If I were Reggie, I wouldn’t resign him. He’s having a bad year and makes too much money. He kept King on IR for a reason.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:10 am
Guys like Fangs used to get banned. I don’t know what happened. They also used to ban you for using someone’s else’s handle. That stopped too. I don’t think they care. They just want the hits.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 am
I guess if youtube doesn’t ban racist comments, then why should this site.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 am
GG & ABP
there are 10-12 other racists on this blog. some have been here as long or longer than I have (5 years)
why single out just Fangs?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Fangs is the most blatant.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 am
I don’t believe Fangs is really a racist. He’s just trying to provoke Mistic.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:15 am
It’s because Fangs has a schtick. He just posts thousands of constant sheer racist comments. Very extreme about it. No football talk.
There might be others who talk football all the time, and might have racist attitudes, them always hating on players of a race, but they never actually make racist comments. You can’t ban/police an attitude or personal perception.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:17 am
I believe Fangs is actually racist, because he is fully armed with thousands of statistics and whatnot related to black vs white people.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:18 am
Personally, I don’t think anyone should be banned.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:29 am
I used to visit a forum years ago that didn’t require sign-in to post. That forum was the most extreme ever due to that. The only way it got changed was by forcing registration from one’s ISP email account, not allowing guest posting or free email registration.
Done here, the trolling would stop, the sock-puppets and people posting inflammatory remarks under other people’s monickers, thered be far more mature discussion — football and non-football without all the BS and pseudo tough guy crap. People being more responsible posters.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:31 am
“The Oakland Raiders have lost 3 games in a row and i think that they should hire a new coach and McFadden should be stronger next time and not get hurt.”-
Observations from my 7 year old who is a die hard RAIDERS FAN
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 am
DA and REG should realize one thing
Get the defense to play like an average NFL defense and CP3 gives you the ability to beat anyone and compete for the playoffs but how much longer will he retain those skills?
DA is suppose to be a D whiz so I expect next years defense to be middle of the pack at worse (I thought the same thing this year)
So Reg has to decide if CP’s declining ability is worth it for the next two years, maybe three.
tough one, dump him and his salary for badly needed draft picks or rebuild around him, train a new QB. He would be a great tutor.
I know this a passhappy league but I would concentrate on the defense, stopping the run and get a pass rusher or two.
#1 stop the run and rush the passer
#2 learn to run the ball and use short passes to chew time off the clock
#3 pass the ball but it does not help much if we cant do the first two
Put those three together and you get what most semis know
We need help on the lines. That’s why I would be in favor of trading CP and or dmac
November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Inspire the best out of people, don’t give leeway and immunity for the worst in people.
I personally doubt any Raiders employees ever visit this site. It’s BS. If they did they would pressure the bay area media group to change.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Ignoring fangs/ary would be the best for everyone.
If others “jumped” those who feed the troll instead of the trolls they would post less
Worse is when semis cutpaste his long rants with stats in order to respond
How frigging dumb is that. Repost fangs rants with
“you are a dick. I on the other hand love black people and I was once married to a girl whose brother fdated a black girl so I am not a racist” etc etc
Stop it!!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I enjoy all the wackiness in this blog. Without it, it would be awfully boring to just talk about how much the Raiders suck year in and year out.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Mistic, pleasant as usual on a Friday night.
What’s with the Goodell is hard on black guys comment? The ONLY player Goodell ever suspended that did not have any chargers filed against him was Big Ben.
Big Ben faces no charges, no criminal complaint and gets suspended. Rolando gets charged, even convicted at first, and no suspension.
I think it is pretty clear, Goodell has it in for the Hungarians.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Ignoring fangs/ary would be the best for everyone.
If others “jumped” those who feed the troll instead of the trolls they would post less
Worse is when semis cutpaste his long rants with stats in order to respond
How frigging dumb is that. Repost fangs rants with
“you are a dick. I on the other hand love black people and I was once married to a girl whose brother fdated a black girl so I am not a racist” etc etc
Stop it!!
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Exactly. Very wise and true.
Still, these people like Fangs dont care if no one responds. They’ll just derail each page with hundreds of those racist comments. It’s like a rival media site doing it to try to force people out of here and onto their site, or it’s some denver/niner fan who has mental problems, vandalizing the site the objective regardless if anyone responds or not.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:10 am
RAIDER-SINCE(1967) -HATE TEAM (DENVER)
GOOD MORNING RAIDERNATION
Oakland the Holy NFL City whats become of you!
I ask among you peace between the races and don’t
fight whites or blacks but talk and gather peacefully in
the eyes of GOD!
Toghether will send a positive energy to him and AL !
PRAY for all of us, for Truly I say GOD the FATHER is mad
At us, LETS LIGHT A CANDLE TO HIM AND ASK TO FORGIVE
OAKLAND SO BY THIS 2013 WE CAN BE BETTER IN THE EYES OF
AL DAVIS (RIP)
November 24th, 2012 at 6:24 am
GMin aint easy. Making hardcore decisions will give you ulcers along with sleepless nights.
I pray Reg stays healthy of mind and body. Too many GM’s succumb to the easy way out and start drinking or popping pharmy pills to sleep and wake up.
That may be something Reg has to his advantage. He is laid back and mellow. Does not drink,and its highly unlikely he is on pharms.
I am just rambling, throwing Raider talk against the wall for convo.
vegas what have you got for us this morning? You always have a different take
November 24th, 2012 at 6:30 am
vegas what have you got for us this morning? You always have a different take
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Well, how about those Laker fans that pointed to the coaching change and one win and said “See, SEE, change your coach, and look what happens.”
November 24th, 2012 at 6:34 am
RAIDER(since) 1967 – Favorite Player( -DARYLL LAMONICA)
All that I am saying is gjve peace a chance!
Look at us fighting between us, NO this is not good.
Talk about this 2013 coming for OAKLAND, and what do you suggest, you expertice and what you would like to see out of the RAIDERS TEAM.
MY SUGGESTION IS: Fix the De-fence-#2 get Al Saunder OF
#3 Dump 1/2 of team.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Omoran, you are from 1960s, correct? Did you perhaps take too much LSD during your youth?
November 24th, 2012 at 6:51 am
RAIDERNATION-LETS HELP OUR TEAM! :LET OUR BLOGS BE HEARD! PLEASE CORK–LETS HEAR SUGGESTIONS AFTER WE
READ YOUR WRITINGS IN THE HEADLINES!
A SUGGESTION POLL TO BE GIVEN TO -MARK DAVIS, REGGIE,COACH ALLEN.
LATER MUST BE READ TO THE REST OF THE TEAM !
I HONESTLY SUGGEST: raiders etc
November 24th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Get to see if Aaron Murray can win and stay in both the Heisman and National title race here in a few hours.
I still think he will be on our draft wish list.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:55 am
I have not watched Georgia play much. Good day to see Murray. Isnt that your boy all year?
<—-rooting for the used Trojans for first time. They have to stop the unholy tarnished homers and throw the BCS into chaos
go Trojans~!!
November 24th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Isnt that your boy all year?
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I focus on a QB every few years that I think has the moxie to win, but not enough talent to be a top 3 pick.
Last time, I gave everyone Andy Dalton (Mountain West woo-woo!!!). Now I have been on the Murray bandwagon.
Although I think Murray has a stronger arm than Dalton.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:59 am
My Holliday Suggestion is: Fix the Defence and backfield
OF-Get Al Saunder to run the 2011 type OF
MAKE IT SIMPLE PLEASE!
November 24th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Yeah, hard to root for USC, but I root for college football chaos.
I am just bitter about the whole thing. So I hope everyone loses, and it is two SEC teams (like Georgia-Florida or something like that) in the BCS bowl again, so everyone can scream outrage.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:14 am
But for our 1st round pick, I am all in on either Eric Reid or Aaron Barr.
Two clear as day weakness of our teams. Back-end safety play and a speed rusher.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Dalton is doing a very good job.
Above average in MO which makes him a top 15 QB, maybe top ten.
Nonetheless I suspect without AJ he would slip out of the top 15 and his stats would be much less
November 24th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Yeah, hard to root for USC, but I root for college football chaos.
I am just bitter about the whole thing. So I hope everyone loses, and it is two SEC teams (like Georgia-Florida or something like that) in the BCS bowl again, so everyone can scream outrage.
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Just curious if u do that becuz u want em to have a playoff?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Mistic1 You’re a man after my own heart…….
YEAH WE KNOW. U GUYS SHOULD GET MARRIED
they just don’t get what this is all about….it’s like when Jazz hit the scene a hundred years ago.
OH WOW. UR RIGHT. WE JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND.
Then it hit the juke joints and after that Louis and those before him took it to the streets next thing you know. The main stream white folks was claiming it for their own.
MAN WE’VE NEVER SEEN AN ATHLETIC QB BEFORE.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Move over Palmer Pryor turn to take the wheel
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u prove urself to be ignorant every time u speak
November 24th, 2012 at 7:44 am
omoran Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:59 am
My Holliday Suggestion is: Fix the Defence and backfield
OF-Get Al Saunder to run the 2011 type OF
MAKE IT SIMPLE PLEASE!
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Yes.
We’ve all been pining for AL SAUNDER.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Just curious if u do that becuz u want em to have a playoff?
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I think it is so stupid to not have one. I know they are having one next year or the year after, but it will still be half SEC teams, 1 PAC-12 team, never a MWC team, etc.
Why college football is inferior to college hoops, IMO. I watch college football for looking at future pro’s. Every game, literally has no meaning.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:52 am
JFB,
If the SEC doesn’t win those playoffs than everyone will say what a joke the bcs rankings were all thses yr’s. and how the SEC has all those “fake’ championships.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:52 am
I don’t understand the outrage over the Turkey day call.
Because Schwartz is an idiot and an inept coach, we need to change the rules? BS, if Schwartz had a clue, it would have been a non issue.
Lack of accountability in this world these days. He f’d up, plain and simple. Keep the rules, get rid of the coach.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:53 am
DR rob
day shift does not allow shenanigans or knuckleheads
Please refrain from such behavior in the future
thank you for your cooperation
November 24th, 2012 at 7:56 am
WE don’t know what goes on behind the scenes
Sanders may not want anything to do with calling plays let alone being the OC
Take the Arkansas pumpkinhead for an example.
I suspect he is saving himself ala ricky Williams.
He wants a long career and chances are he will cycle on and his first year for a new club will be fantastic other then injuries.
And then he will revert back to his same old pumpkinhead ways
November 24th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Come to think of it he has more moss in him them Ricky
November 24th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I’m not anti-SEC, it is clearly the best conference most years. But Utah plasters ‘Bama, and nothing but excuses. Undefeated, and no championship.
Horse-puckey!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Every other RB not named McNinny are averaging 4.8 ypc this season. No fumbles. No dropped passes. Stewart gets a screen and tries to hurdle people and run over tacklers. McNinny Franco’s it OOB short of the sticks.
Darren failed us this season.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
The commish is extremely hard on black players ,
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how about sean payton? u just run ur mouth with interest in truth.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Because Schwartz is an idiot and an inept coach,
I thought I was the only one who felt that way about him but it was long before his gobble gobble turkey call.
I am also of the belief that hardbourgh’s act will wear thin in SF. He better win it all this year
November 24th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
He does hate any race based on what I read but he does prefer his own…if that makes sense.
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yeah just like segregation. u guys are a joke.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Operation Neuter Wolverine starts in 50 mins!!
Neuter Wolverine!
Damn you Mich!
Go Buckeyes!!
November 24th, 2012 at 8:10 am
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Fang come in here spouting racist schit, and nobody says a damned thing.
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ur a fu@king liar. plain and simple.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
The commish is extremely hard on black players ,
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how about sean payton? u just run ur mouth with interest in truth.
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Sometimes Priest and Mistic will say something sensible, and you begin to think they aren’t complete morons. Then they go ahead and say something ridiculous like this.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
And what’s with the cut-blocking ban talk?
Forget the ZBS and interior line, at least there is an alternative for them.
How is a RB supposed to pick up the blitz? Just get steamrolled trying to block a guy high, that weighs 30+ more pounds than them AND GETS A RUNNING START?
That will be a disaster. It will just lead to more concussions, and more hits on the QB.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Fang come in here spouting racist schit, and nobody says a damned thing.
Mistic draws a crowd, though.
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KK it is shocking to be honest, that guy in comparison to Mistic1 there is no comparison………..one guy professes race hatred proudly and no one says a word. Mistic1 mentions Palmer and the entire board gets in an uproar……..it’s speaks volumns!
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liar. liar. liar.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Just watch, as soon as RGIII becomes the most popular player in America, Mistic is going to start criticizing him.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:14 am
I am of the belief that the Doors are a tad overrated, but it doesn’t get a whole lot better than Roadhouse Blues, does it?
November 24th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Don’t forget the Cincy game is Palmer’s “legacy” game and will define his career.
Biggest game of Palmer’s life.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:15 am
If they outlaw cut blocking completely, we will see the return of the fullback and guys like Taiwan Jones will be out of the league.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Gem of the night:
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
People really should grow up & stop being so naive.
The only reason black people are lowed to play at all is because white owners saw that we are good at it and could help them win.
This is not equality. There was no moral epiphany or good will or humanitarian motivation.
Cold blooded dollars and cents made that happen and that is what is driving it today as well.
Same as so called honest abe with the proclomAtion, it was strictly a business decision
November 24th, 2012 at 8:16 am
RGIII married a chubby white chick, but she got some cans though.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I remember when shantherat used cut blocking with the zbs very effectively for a year or three before the NFL shut it down .
Quite a few players were injured and its why I have always hated shat and the mules
Did anyone use the two before that?
November 24th, 2012 at 8:18 am
no. he will continue to harp on how nobody really likes him.
we have a black president and missdick thinks the whole country are white supremacists.
michael jordan. tiger woods. muhammad ali. derek jeter.
rap music is everywhere.
espn and the nfl network are filled with black analysts, many of whom are idiotic.
and we’re all white supremacists if we think palmer is better than pryor.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:18 am
This is a big game for Carson, but far from a legacy game.
It is only a “legacy” game for Mistic because he wants him to flop and fail.
If Palmer plays well and wins, no “legacy”.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I agree with you 90% but when you go off the track, you really go off.
Doors over rated?
That’s as bad as UFO’s are not real and Hellary would be a good P
November 24th, 2012 at 8:19 am
JFB, she’s not chubby. Just because she isn’t a tall super model doesn’t mean she is chubby. You people!
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Robert-Griffin-III-Fiancee-girlfriend-Rebecca-Liddicoat.png
November 24th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Brothers and sisters of the pale forest, who among you will run with me. Run with me!
Overrated my a$$!
November 24th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I agree with you 90% but when you go off the track, you really go off.
Doors over rated?
That’s as bad as UFO’s are not real and Hellary would be a good P
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If I never hear another Door’s song in my life, I will be happy.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:21 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Gem of the night:
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
People really should grow up & stop being so naive.
The only reason black people are lowed to play at all is because white owners saw that we are good at it and could help them win.
This is not equality. There was no moral epiphany or good will or humanitarian motivation.
Cold blooded dollars and cents made that happen and that is what is driving it today as well.
Same as so called honest abe with the proclomAtion, it was strictly a business decision
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LOL! no matter what anyone does, they’re ALWAYS racist. always. this guy is such a joke, he should be ignored at all costs.
liars don’t deserve acknowledgement.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I agree with you 90% but when you go off the track, you really go off.
Doors over rated?
That’s as bad as UFO’s are not real and Hellary would be a good P
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they are overrated. they’re good but their albums are a mixed bag and they aren’t in the same league as the beatles, stones, who, hendrix, etc.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
morrison was an amatuerish, nearly laughable “poet” talking nonsense about who knows what half the time. they made some cool music, but in the words of lester bangs, he was a “buffoon”.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am
JFB, she’s not chubby. Just because she isn’t a tall super model doesn’t mean she is chubby. You people!
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Hey, she is 110% my type.
Just saying, she spits out a little RGIV and she is up the creek.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Roadhouse Blues is the jam though.
Got the harmonica, the piano/organ thing going on, and that was Jim at his best IMO.
Top 10 all-time song
November 24th, 2012 at 8:31 am
i love the doors, don’t get me wrong. roadhouse rocks. i’m just saying on the whole, they are a bit overrated. that’s not the same as saying i don’t like them.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:32 am
I don’t mind the Doors, but they are so overplayed. I gave away my Doors greatest hits album because I can hear all their songs on classic rock radio whenever I please.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:33 am
i’m just saying on the whole, they are a bit overrated. that’s not the same as saying i don’t like them.
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I hear you. People struggle with what “overrated” means.
I think Derek Jeter is one of the best SS of our generation, but also overrated. He isn’t one of the greatest players ever, not even close.
Vince Carter = overrated. Very good player though.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Best band of that era was the Velvet Underground.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 am
The Kinks > Beatles
November 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
You People are Overrated!
The Doors (Jim Morrison) rules!
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 am
All of this trade palmer talks absolute lunacy. You guys are lacking focus and proper diagnoses. Palmer isn’t close to being the problem. Your frustation on offense squarely falls with Gregg Knapp. Blaming Palmer is completely misguided.
Knapp is running one of the most unbalalanced offenses in the league. We are passing well over 60% of the time because he completely destroyed our run game. He is even destroying DMCs career. His playcalling is completely inadequate. It causes gigantic problems with this offense (DMC & Palmer included). Palmer is forced to pass way too often and the plays are too telegraphed. Still he is one of our best performers every Sunday.
Suffice to say if recent injuries don’t shed light on Knapps lack of ingenuity and improper use of talent I don’t know what else will. DMC & Goodson go down …he refuses to use TJ, instead brings in a practice squad guy and proceed to literally run Reece into the ground. So damn narrow minded its crazy. Heck, just look at the comparative stats man. It is awful and its NOT PALMER
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I always liked “LA Woman” when I worked at the oldies station.
7 mins. long allowed me to go get a hamburger and get back before song was over.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Raider O Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
You People are Overrated!
The Doors (Jim Morrison) rules!
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The Doors rule if your a pot smoking college kid.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Vince Carter was overrated.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:38 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I always liked “LA Woman” when I worked at the oldies station.
7 mins. long allowed me to go get a hamburger and get back before song was over.
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You should have played Iron Butterfly.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Pot Smokers Rule!
November 24th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Maybe the Raiders should get high before tomorrow’s game. They might play better.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I think the Beatles were/ are overrated.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I don’t think the Beatles are overrated. They are probably the most influential band ever. They wrote a lot of great songs. But, I would rather listen to the Kinks or the Rolling Stones.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:49 am
795,
Inagaddadavida baby…
15 mins. long. Lol.
..or the live version of ‘Free Bird’ by Skynyrd.
13 mins.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:53 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:49 am
795,
Inagaddadavida baby…
15 mins. long. Lol.
..or the live version of ‘Free Bird’ by Skynyrd.
13 mins.
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Have you ever heard of the band Sleep? They were a heavy metal stoner rock band from Oakland. They recorded a 52 minute long song about marijuana, Jesus, and a desert caravan. It’s pretty great if your into that sort of thing.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
The TRUTH: WHAT IS TRUTH. Truly I say to you that a Dark color man help carry a cross once
In GREENBAY this color man came to the yellow color of this Team -TRIUPHALLY HE MADE THEM WIN MANY TIMES IN MANY YEARS–HE HELP CARRY THIS CROSS TO THE END, TO GLORY (SB)
HE MADE THIS SACRIFIES, GOD REWARD HIM WITH GAMES, PLAYOFFS, CHAMPIONSHIPS AND THEN TO THE PROMISE LAND -
THE SUPERBOWL!
TODAY: This same Black Man is now Carrying your Cross – Our Cross. 2012 and2013 or(13) when this jurney is finish and all
The pain sufferage and anguish is finished, his Mission and our
Mission to GOD will begin.
s
November 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Maybe the Raiders should get high before tomorrow’s game. They might play better.
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Since Mistic is staking his anti Palmer rep on this game by declaring “It’s the defining game of his career” and will determine his “legacy” I wish we could pull it off, but Mistic knows the chances of the TEAM winning are slim which is why he’s going out on a limb. Lol.
If we win, i’m sure it will be the racist refs who let the Radiers win so that we won’t see Pryor play the next week.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:58 am
The last thing we need to hear is how the browneyes and rural moyer would have been the national chumps if it were not for TP/sweatervest.
Go Mich!! beat the broweyes
Go So cal!! beat the yellow homers
November 24th, 2012 at 9:00 am
801,
52 min’s? Ha. That’d be awesome.
Longest song I ever played was “Alice’s Restaurant” by Arlo Guthrie.
It’s a thanksgiving tradition to play at noon every t-day.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
CCR’s “Heard it through the Grapevine” is 10+ minutes, and has about 200 drum rolls in it.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Monday Night is a ‘legacy game’ for Cam Newton. If he can’t beat the lowly Eagles and a rookie QB on Monday Night, he may as well retire.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
innagaddadividdi
I am somewhat of a freak, not because I loved chitty chitty bang bang but because I can still to this day say supercalifragelishusexpeallidoshus
November 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
The new Neil Young album starts off with a 27 minute song.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I have been in Carson’s corner all year, and I don’t think he is THE problem.
But how can you blame Knapp for him throwing that pick 6 last week? For tripping in the Ravens game, and just quitting on the field instead of getting up?
Now he is running Reece “into the ground”? Ruining Darren’s career?
Please. Knapp will be calling plays in the NFL, long after McNinny gets run out of the league.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
It will only be a legacy game if it fits Mistic’s agenda.
A win, and it will be just another game that got him to 4-7.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I’ll be the first to admit that Palmer makes bone headed decisions sometimes. But, so did Brett Favre. Eli Manning does too. Palmer is still the 2nd best QB we have had in the last 25 years.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I don’t blame Palmer for this season entirely, but I am in the corner of trading him in the offseason if we can get some value out of it.
The Jets trade scenario makes perfect sense. Trade Palmer, surround the team with some talent, bring in Matt Flynn or someone similar to compete with TP, and free up some cap space to boot.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
TD!
Go Buckeyes!
Operation neuter wolverine has started!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:14 am
I’d draft Denard Robinson in the 6th or 7th round, and have him return all kicks and maybe be a Danny Woodhead type for us.
Think it can work for a few years with him, before he gets hurt and loses a step.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Maybe we should have Pryor return punts.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Maybe we should have Pryor return punts.
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Too tall.
Most KR’s are the short guys.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Raider O Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
TD!
Go Buckeyes!
Operation neuter wolverine has started!
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Ha. I knew you’d be lovin that.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Watching Georgia game to scout DE/OLB Jarvis Jones
November 24th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Well, how about those Laker fans that pointed to the coaching change and one win and said “See, SEE, change your coach, and look what happens.”
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Delusional
Like I’ve been saying for 4 years now. HAVE to get rid of Gasoft.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Truly I say to you there’s a bridge between man and GOD.
THIS BLACK MAN (REGGIE) HAS COMETH FOR A PURPOSE !
He was sent by one Greater than Us! Not to Destroy but go Repair. Not to do Bad but to do Good and Remove Evil.
He came to us because he used to play for us and AL.
Away far in GREENBAY his heart was hurting in pain when OAKLAND ,his Old team was losing, he Cry like me inside
And couldn’t take it anymore. So now leave him alone and let him work. For the hand of the Lord will Guide him.
SO WILL HE GLORIFY GOD, SO WILL GOD GLORIFY US.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:29 am
All of krapps successful offinsive adjustments have come straight from Hues PlayBook last year.. gap and power runs.. normal playaction. Not stupid bootlegs… an extra tackle plaing TE… running deep routes for our wrs.. all hues stuff that krapp should have left in the offense insead of adding LONG after we are done for the yr. STUPID DÌCK!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Like I’ve been saying for 4 years now. HAVE to get rid of Gasoft.
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Will probably have to wait until he becomes an “expiring contract” and then you can get some value out of him.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Omoran, I have faith brother! Reggie will deliver us to the promised land.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Jarvis Jones is really good, but this is a tough game to scout him on.
They just left him unblocked. That won’t happen at the next level.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
People struggle with what “overrated” means.
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People struggle with a lot of words.
“IF” comes to mind, lol.
Like IF we are getting blown out, Pryor should play.
Like IF Pryor can actually show something, we MIGHT end up with extra draft picks.
Yeah, “MIGHT” is another word people struggle with.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Watching Georgia game to scout DE/OLB Jarvis Jones
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They are supposed to have the #1 C prospect too, right?
November 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I say to you that this OAKLAND TEAM -Not one stone in top of
Another shall stand! And this black man (Reggie) shall come
He will destroy this “TEMPLE” in 1 -one day (1 yr) and BUILDED
IN 3(yrs) and, and Only Then Shall the RAIDERS WIN AGAIN
2015
November 24th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Like IF we are getting blown out, Pryor should play.
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Still debatable.
This isn’t a 2012 or bust deal for Palmer and the offense either, IF they don’t move him in the offseason (a big IF).
We need the reps. The WR needs the reps, with a #1 QB. The OL needs the reps.
I also said it would be the most ideal situation IF TP becomes a viable QB. A QB on a 3rd round contract for a few years will eleviate 100% of our cap issues, almost immediately.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:46 am
JFB,
Mitch just applied the Jedi mind tricks and dumped Bynum ONLY for Howard. Everyone thought we’d have to give up Gasoft to get Howard.
Gasoft got benched in the 4th qtr last night, lol.
He’s outta here.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Good Morning Nation!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:46 am
That was a big league throw from Murray.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Anyone think Reggie kept up the tradition of serving KFC and McDonalds to visiting free agents and coaches?
November 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Gasoft got benched in the 4th qtr last night, lol.
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Long live D’Antoni!!!!
Either pull up from 22 feet, or take a seat.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Watching Georgia game to scout DE/OLB Jarvis Jones
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They are supposed to have the #1 C prospect too, right?
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And NT/DT!!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I’m hoping Reggie can get Landry Jones in the 3rd round or move up to the 2nd.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Still debatable.
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Of course it is.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Anyone think Reggie kept up the tradition of serving KFC and McDonalds to visiting free agents and coaches?
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LMFAO
Al was the man!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I thought Utah had an Islander that was the top ranked NT?
I’ll pass on a specialist in the first round.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Seymour is retiring
Bryant and Houston are DEs.
We need a BEAST ANCHOR up front.
I’m liking the NT from Utah with our 1st pick.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Did Ohio State sneak in Philip Adams to return punts?
November 24th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I think Bryant should play almost exclusively inside.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:56 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Anyone think Reggie kept up the tradition of serving KFC and McDonalds to visiting free agents and coaches?
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LMFAO
Al was the man!
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Priest says he was in the Raider office when Sean Payton was interviewing. I bet he’s the guy they sent to pick up the burgers and coleslaw.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Here’s where my Pryor babble comes into play. Stupid as it may be, lol.
Pryor has a Kapernicky type game. Some GM out there MIGHT get caught up in this “wave of the future movement”, lol, and trade us a 1st rd pick.
There are NO “exciting” QB prospects coming out.
I can really envision us getting a hold of the Jets #1 pick! And you know I DESPISE our safeties. Jets #1 pick is used on a safety!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am
I don’t think the Jets would trade for Pryor when they already have Tebow. Rex Ryan is going to get fired. Sanchez is also gone. That means Tebow may be their QB next year.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I wonder why Reggie is waiting so long to fill Curry’s spot on the roster? Maybe he’s going to activate Pryor.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Some GM out there MIGHT get caught up in this “wave of the future movement”, lol, and trade us a 1st rd pick.
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J, stop it.
Pryor would have to be absolutely lights out to get a 1st, and if he is so, why would we then trade him?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I think Rex stays for one more year, without the Sanchize.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I wonder why Reggie is waiting so long to fill Curry’s spot on the roster? Maybe he’s going to activate Pryor.
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Inactives and actives on gameday have no bearing on the 53.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:04 am
From Bill Williamson’s mailbag:
Mason from San Francisco wants to know if I think the Raiders could bring back Hue Jackson as head coach.
BW: How many ways can I say “no?” It simply will not happen. Jackson was a good coach, but his act wore thin and he ran his mouth too much for the liking of some key people in the organization. We will see Jackson as an opposing assistant coach Sunday in Cincinnati, but that’s the only time we will see him at an Oakland game.
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How stupid do you have to be to ask that question?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:04 am
J, stop it.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
November 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
You guys have ZERO imagination, confidence, or mouthpice skills.
If Cincy can pull of 2 #1s for a retired guy sitting on the couch, I don’t see why we can’t, lol.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Palmer and Pryor for a #2 and #3 maybe.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am
If Cincy can pull of 2 #1s for a retired guy sitting on the couch, I don’t see why we can’t, lol.
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Let me know where Hue Jackson will be GM’ing next season, and then things like the above can be possible for us.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:10 am
If Pioli wasn’t a Chief, he may be dumb enough to trade for Palmer.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:04 am
From Bill Williamson’s mailbag:
Mason from San Francisco wants to know if I think the Raiders could bring back Hue Jackson as head coach.
BW: How many ways can I say “no?” It simply will not happen. Jackson was a good coach, but his act wore thin and he ran his mouth too much for the liking of some key people in the organization. We will see Jackson as an opposing assistant coach Sunday in Cincinnati, but that’s the only time we will see him at an Oakland game.
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How stupid do you have to be to ask that question?
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about as stupid as many in here.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Teams that may want Palmer:
Jets
Cardinals
Titans
Cowboys
Jags
Bills
November 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Hilarious my name is ringing on this board all night and morning eventhough I wasn’t here.
I think people ad buckling beneath the weight of their fool hearty predictions for the team & Palmer against his continued failure
People are now ready to trade Palmer, & I agree. Funny but is anyone else that says Palmer should go a racist troll too? Lol
Trading Palmer doesn’t mean that “Palmer is the problem” as so many want to use a some sort of strange defense for palmers failings. It’s about getting some value out of the trade that is just an awful bust.
If we can get a 2nd founder for Palmer do it yesterday be wil never lead this team our of the misery he led us into
November 24th, 2012 at 10:17 am
I bet the Jets would take a package deal of Palmer and McFadden.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
For the record I never said “Goodel is hard on black players”.
I said the nfl is entertainment business & has no integrity. The same can be said for any multi billion dollar corporation.
Grow up kids life is not about butterflies and puppies and rainbows
November 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Mistic, we know that Palmer isn’t the future. It’s obvious that next year is going to be a rebuilding year. Raiders might as well try and get some draft picks.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Hilarious my name is ringing on this board all night and morning eventhough I wasn’t here.
I think people ad buckling beneath the weight of their fool hearty predictions for the team & Palmer against his continued failure
People are now ready to trade Palmer, & I agree. Funny but is anyone else that says Palmer should go a racist troll too? Lol
Trading Palmer doesn’t mean that “Palmer is the problem” as so many want to use a some sort of strange defense for palmers failings. It’s about getting some value out of the trade that is just an awful bust.
If we can get a 2nd founder for Palmer do it yesterday be wil never lead this team our of the misery he led us into
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u have to be the biggest f@cking idiot ever. we have discussed getting picks for a great qb on a bad team.
the team’s failure is not his failure moron.
he hasn’t led us into misery, but i’m sure ur life is miserable.
ur a stupid broken record. u must have a very boring life.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am
For the record I never said “Goodel is hard on black players”.
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Priest did.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Actually it makes no difference to me what jc did or does in Chicago. I made no predictions about his career there.
He was a far better qb for us than the guy that followed.
What he does as a bear has no impact on this. Are you guys near fans? I’m not
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what a copout. ur such a coward.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Mistic, are you and Priest the same person?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
missdick deserves no actual conversation. he isn’t worth discussing anything with. in fact, i’m sure that he is sullivan. just a pathetic dick trying desperately to ruin the blog. going after the one bright spot on the team. one of his ridiculous “personalities”. a little man.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Carson Palmer was already traded by 1 team, and that team is doing just fine post Carson.
Why is it so hard to think about a post Carson era here?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:25 am
So what position is Jarvis Jones supposed to be? He seems kind of light to be a DE, and that RB for Georgia Tech just blew past him if he is supposed to be an OLB.
Hmmmm……….
November 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Carson Palmer was already traded by 1 team, and that team is doing just fine post Carson.
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Trade Carson, pick up Aaron Murray (Dalton 2.0) and viola, onward and upward.
I still think we beat them though tomorrow.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Palmer and McFadden for the Jets #1 pick.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Palmer and McFadden for the Jets #1 pick.
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Then use that pick to trade down and pick a 2nd round pick.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Carson Palmer was already traded by 1 team, and that team is doing just fine post Carson.
Why is it so hard to think about a post Carson era here?
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what’s wrong with u people?
always twisting sh!t and trying to lie.
nobody said it was hard to think about.
nobody said we’re mad about pryor getting time.
we said it’s idiotic to talk about pryor all day long.
it will never happen. that’s just fact.
that’s not the same as us saying we’re somehow scared of it happening.
understand?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:30 am
I’m pushing the draft Shoelace at the end of the draft movement!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am
missdick/priest is just a broken record spouting racist tripe and passing it off as something else. period. an idiotic moron who can’t do anything else with his life.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:32 am
The Carson Palmer trade was made to make us a playoff team.
We are not a playoff team. Not even close.
It’s really that simple.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:33 am
pryor is an interesting prospect, nothing more.
palmer will in fact start every game this season and play just about every snap.
not cuz i want him to or cuz i’m “afraid” of pryor. but because it’s the nfl and it’s not for dumb people.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Seymour was brought here to make us a playoff defense. Have never been that since he’s been here.
Bad trade.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am
If the Raiders get blown out tomorrow, the season is officially over. Make Pryor the #2 QB for a couple of weeks, and then let him start the last few games.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Bad trade.
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Compounded to the Nth degree with his even worse contracts.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Seymour was a bad trade.
Palmer was a bad trade.
Curry was a bad trade.
DHB was a bad pick.
Mitchell was a bad pick.
McClain is a bust.
McFadden is a bust.
Russell the ultimate bust.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:32 am
The Carson Palmer trade was made to make us a playoff team.
We are not a playoff team. Not even close.
It’s really that simple.
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nope. wrong.
the palmer trade was made because we appeared to BE a playoff team that had our decent, marginally ok qb go down, and we were left with NO CHANCE to make the playoffs without the trade.
hue jackson, a black man, made the trade, and proceeded to lead his team to a 1-4 finish, completely blowing the trade’s possibilities.
this year, the team has regressed in the run game and on defense. it has excelled in the pass game.
we have a top shelf qb and a lot of holes to fill everywhere else.
palmer hasn’t lost the games. the team has. it’s elementary to point of being stupid if u can’t/won’t see it.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Everyone thought Gallery, Russell, McFadden, and McClain were sure things. The draft experts thought that too. Have these players failed because they went to a sh*tty organization? Or is it just bad luck?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:39 am
what’s wrong with u people?
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You people????
The real question is what’s wrong with YOU????
You literally act offended towards anyone who disagrees with you. Stupid, moron, racist, blah, blah, blah.
Who the phucc do you think you are dude???? The blog police or something? Only your opinion counts???
LMFAO
Get off your high horse and understand that there are different viewpoints in this world than yours.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Mistic, we know that Palmer isn’t the future. It’s obvious that next year is going to be a rebuilding year. Raiders might as well try and get some draft picks.
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Exactly.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am
for those that don’t understand how the nfl works:
it’s either palmer OR pryor. period.
u don’t sit ur starter to see how the #3 looks. period.
u only sit palmer if u have decided to move on, which would lessen his trade value.
u EITHER decide to stick with palmer and therefore he plays every game, cuz u wouldn’t care what the #3 can do
OR u decided to try to trade him, so u let him play all 16 and put up 4800/28 so other teams will want him. then u worry about the future.
the pryor talk is moronic.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Teams that may want Palmer:
Jets
Cardinals
Titans
Cowboys
Jags
Bills
^^^^^^^^^
Cards if anybody.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Carson Palmer was already traded by 1 team, and that team is doing just fine post Carson.
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Trade Carson, pick up Aaron Murray (Dalton 2.0) and viola, onward and upward.
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Trade Carson???
Mistics “boy” is even considering trading Carson, lol.
JFB, are you a racist, moronic, idiotic troll for discussing an IDEA????
November 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I don’t think Mistic is Sullivan. He’s been around here for a while. If he is, Sullivan deserves a lot of credit for pulling that one off.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:39 am
what’s wrong with u people?
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You people????
The real question is what’s wrong with YOU????
You literally act offended towards anyone who disagrees with you. Stupid, moron, racist, blah, blah, blah.
Who the phucc do you think you are dude???? The blog police or something? Only your opinion counts???
LMFAO
Get off your high horse and understand that there are different viewpoints in this world than yours.
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yep. u people. the moronic pryor people.
u can disagree. i don’t care. talk pryor all day long. it won’t change anything.
my opinion is the only one worth paying attention to cuz i’m smart and ur stupid.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
JFB, are you a racist, moronic, idiotic troll for discussing an IDEA????
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You can call me a lot of things, just don’t call me stupid.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Teams that may want Palmer:
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Where are all these racist, idiotic trolls coming from?
I thought it was just Mistic and Priest with an “agenda”?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
This is a legacy game for Palmer. The trade was said to be validate by a local writter then Palmer has two consecutive weeks of turn over filled losses.
It is clear that the local writters don’t match what is being said nationally. The trade is seen as a laughable debacle. Palmer was brought here for the superbowl last year and failed to make the playoffs, & will miss them this year as well. Amonumental flop of epic proportions, & palmers tenure in Oakland is stained with failed comebacks littered with turnovers & sideline temper tantrums.
He left cincy with his tail tucked between his legs, told to beat it after he tried to pull a Jennifer Lopez diva like power play. After a miserable 4-12 campaign he left cincy with no dignity, quitting like a spoiled cry baby taking his shovel & leaving the sand box.
Cincy picked dalton & boom instant upgrade. Now Palmer is nothing more than a panful memeory of fallen stature & faded promise tarnished by perpetual losing.
Enter the Oakland raiders. He arrived with hype worthy of an elite qb, he was trumpeted as the key to the superbowl he has been anything but. Amassing a measly record of 7-13 with 33 turnovers he has been a disappointment to many that drank the Carson Kool aid.
Now he goes back to cincy were he was happily dismissed, playing his replacement upgrade dalton, leading the sinking ship of the sad sack raiders. The raiders have been buried & palmers prints are all over the shovel.
Now he only has this game to perhaps salvage some small personal glory, & save a little dignity. Palmer sinks into obscurity after this game as the playoffs have proven to be a pipe dream & it’s a crack pipe. Beyond this game Palmer can only post stats & hope to cash in on 13 mil next season.
Meanwhile there is a groundswell of intrusive regarding the young super athlete and qb Pryor. Davis wants to see him so do many fans and especially the local faithful .
Palmer having flopped in cincy now floundering in Oakland can only hope he plays well on Sunday so he may begin to rebuild his tattered reputation.
A loss & you can bury him as a qb that failed 2 cities, kiss 13 mil goodbye and may not be any longer in the long term plans.
This is now the biggest game of palmers life… A true legacy game
November 24th, 2012 at 10:45 am
my opinion is the only one worth paying attention to cuz i’m smart and ur stupid.
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LOL
November 24th, 2012 at 10:45 am
This is a legacy game for Palmer.
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So after we win tomorrow, what will the legacy be?
Fair question.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
We need to trade Ford for like 3rd or 4th rounder.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:48 am
u can disagree. i don’t care. talk pryor all day long.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
You don’t care?
Exhibit #1 being your personal crusade against Mistic, lol.
“I don’t care”???????
Are you pouting now too????
November 24th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
This is a legacy game for Palmer.
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blah blah blah.
nice try stupid.
4800 yards/28 td’s.
he’s floundering. ur pathetic.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
This should be the plan for the draft. If chubby checker McK can’t get Te’o or Jones, then he should try and trade down and see if some teams wants to move up.
Te’o and Jones should the two main players targeted by McK.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Why do you gotta call each other names everytime some one doesn’t agree with you
November 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:45 am
This is a legacy game for Palmer.
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So after we win tomorrow, what will the legacy be?
Fair question.
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Palmer’s legacy will have been playing QB for the two of the worst run organizations in professional sports.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
ABC just said Florida’s strength of schedule with a win today would put them in the National Championship game, even if they don’t play in the SEC championship game.
Awesome!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
This is a legacy game for Palmer.
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No it isn’t. Palmer is without his best two RB’s and best player on defense. Is Palmer supposed to return kicks? Come on, put down the booze and take a nap.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
We need to trade Ford for like 3rd or 4th rounder.
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this blog’s unbelievable expectations for trades astounds me.
why don’t we trade brandian ross for a 2nd rounder?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And for the record, I think we were actually talking draft picks, not Pryor.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
We need to trade Ford for like 3rd or 4th rounder.
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That ship sailed, should have done so last offseason.
His trade value is nil.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Reggie could possibly get picks for Palmer, McFadden, Ford, Kelly, and Branch. I doubt anyone would want to take on Kelly and Branch’s contracts, though.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
This should be the plan for the draft. If chubby checker McK can’t get Te’o or Jones, then he should try and trade down and see if some teams wants to move up.
Te’o and Jones should the two main players targeted by McK.
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that i agree with
November 24th, 2012 at 10:52 am
nice try stupid.
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Is this another example of you not caring?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Let Mistic talk about Palmer all he wants, Palmer will be here next year, there isn’t a qb prospect the like of Luck or Griffin coming out, you have to have one great unit to make playoffs, D got a lot of sh1t to fix before they are elite on that side, but O can do certain things like bring in better coaches and #1wr and upgrade Oline on that side, Reg see’s that and he’s not stupid or have an agenda like certain people that he will trade Palmer just like that lol
November 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Palmer might just decide to retire again.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Te’o and Jones should the two main players targeted by McK.
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Anthony Barr
November 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:48 am
u can disagree. i don’t care. talk pryor all day long.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
You don’t care?
Exhibit #1 being your personal crusade against Mistic, lol.
“I don’t care”???????
Are you pouting now too????
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yes, i’m pouting.
how dare u suggest sitting my golden haired hero?
no, no, no, no, no!
but i object to stupidity. hence, my opinion that missdick should go back to africa.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I don’t really care about College football anymore , but i would still like to see a different team in Championship game than Alabama
November 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Te’o and Jones should the two main players targeted by McK.
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that i agree with
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Target the 2 guys that most people have going #1 overall?
Brilliant!
Why didn’t we think of that?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:55 am
It’s kind of amazing that Palmer hasn’t been injured while with the Raiders.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:55 am
notre dame will win the national championship in the same year rick reilly made his ridiculous claim they weren’t “relevant” anymore. hilarious. that idiot should crawl under a rock.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:55 am
yes, i’m pouting.
how dare u suggest sitting my golden haired hero?
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LOL
November 24th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Let them talk about Pryor all they want, it ain’t happening as long as Palmer his here, and they would not trade Palmer next year cuz of Pryor it would be only if they think there is a can’t miss qb prospect in a draft or they get a Herchell (sp) walker type of trade offer
November 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
nobody has teo going first. he’s ranked in the top 5 but will likely fall a bit cuz of his position. but if there’s one guy in the draft who can change a team the most, he’s it.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Lakers on X-Mas?
How many games under .500 will they be by then?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Some team will draft one of the QB busts with the 1st pick , teams with picks from 2-8 picks will get better players
November 24th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I’ve seen mock drafts that have Te’o going anywhere from #3 to #15.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:58 am
lifelong lakers fan but i’m sick of kobe. he can suck a fat one.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I bet the Bears would love to have Te’o to replace Urlacher. I can see them trading up to get him.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Kinda funny Lakers were putting up points with Bickerstaff(SP) but they have failed to get to 100 points since D’antoni took over the sidelines
November 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
nobody has teo going first.
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Kiper was on M & M yesterday and said he was told by multiple GM’s they would take him #1 overall right now.
Now, he could have spoke with like the Pats and Falcons GM, where he is more of a luxury, but that was his reports.
Also said there is zero chance he falls out of the top 3.
Kiper’s word isn’t the gospel, but holds more weight than anything we have to say on it.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:00 am
You really can’t go wrong with Jarvis Jones or Te’o , Should be JJ if you’re 3-4 or Te’o if you are 4-3
November 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
i would say go get geno smith but we have so many needs that i’m not sure.
i do think if they can get a draft haul in the neighborhood of a 2nd, a 3rd, and a 6th, or something like that, then we should entertain trading palmer. but that would require absolutely taking a qb in the first round and starting over.
with pryor around, it’s tuff to make that call. but in reality, i don’t think reggie and DA think very highly of pryor as a qb. the proof is in the pudding. always inactive. not an encouraging word about him all season. pretty obvious really.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Sorry, but we just came off the highly touted ILB as a #1 pick experiment.
DT/NT or OL with the #1 pick.
We are officially in rebuild mode.
Everyone is on the trade block.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Kiper’s word isn’t the gospel, but holds more weight than anything we have to say on it.
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I don’t know about that. Kiper said Jamarcus Russel was going to be the next Elway.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I will go with DaMontre Moore DE Texas A&M
November 24th, 2012 at 11:03 am
but here’s the thing:
we will probably win a couple more games, cuz we face cleveland, carolina, and kc.
we will likely be 5-11 or something. so we will pick somewhere around 8-10. no teo. no jarvis. but maybe geno.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Kiper said Jamarcus Russel was going to be the next Elway.
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He said “could be” and I believe the caveat was if he could lay off the butter sandwiches.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:04 am
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:03 am
but here’s the thing:
we will probably win a couple more games, cuz we face cleveland, carolina, and kc.
we will likely be 5-11 or something. so we will pick somewhere around 8-10. no teo. no jarvis. but maybe geno.
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People still have Geno going to the Chiefs at #1.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am
If we trade down, or engineer a trade to get a mid to late first as well, I would look at Stedman Bailey, WR from WVU.
Our lack of a big-play WR rears it’s head way too often.
He won’t fall into the 3rd, but I obviously wouldn’t take him in the 6-12 range.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Kiper’s word isn’t the gospel, but holds more weight than anything we have to say on it.
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I don’t know about that. Kiper said Jamarcus Russel was going to be the next Elway.
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he’s EXACTLY like elway. high draft pick. played football for awhile. retired. kiper was correct.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
i do think if they can get a draft haul in the neighborhood of a 2nd, a 3rd, and a 6th, or something like that, then we should entertain trading palmer. but that would require absolutely taking a qb in the first round and starting over.
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If Pryor can’t cut it, we can pick up a journeyman to hold down the ship for one more year. Alex Smith, Chad Henne, Mike Vick FA type. Maybe trade a 3rd for Flynn.
It’s going to take a couple of years to tun this thing around. Might be next offseason instead of this one where we end up with a QB.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I think Geno’s draft stock is slipping dramatically.
Although, he seems the type to have a really, really good pro day.
Just not even the type of prospect of a Luck or Stafford or RGIII. I am not even sure he is in the Sam Bradford league.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
pass rush should be top priority if we don’t get teo.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:07 am
whoever we get at qb, he should definitely be a part of the “wave of the future”.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:08 am
If we got top 5 pick but Te’o is not there i would trade down to 6-11 slot and draft D Moore DE T A&M
November 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
we need more black qb’s
November 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
i’m convinced
November 24th, 2012 at 11:10 am
i’m out for awhile. feel free to discuss pryor for awhile. hopefully he starts tomorrow.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Discussion about black QBs would drop by 90% if Mistic and Priest didn’t bring it up all the time.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
A trade down is much more likely with the new caps on rookie salaries.
Always got a kick out of the “trade down” guys of years past. You couldn’t trade out of the #8th pick if you tried.
The 15th pick WAS LITERALLY more valuable than the 10th pick, due to the contracts.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
If we convert to 3-4 full time, my first choice would be J Jarvis (if available , then the Utah NT Star Lotulei (sp) next choice
November 24th, 2012 at 11:12 am
We need to see what we have in Streater and Criner before we spend another pick on a WR.
Moore isn’t going anywhere.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am
I’m not down with the “specialists” like a NT that early in the draft.
He literally, has no value as a pass-rusher. None.
Can’t we get someone just a shade below him in the run-stuffing arena, a few rounds later?
November 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am
J Hill Says:
The real question is what’s wrong with YOU????
You literally act offended towards anyone who disagrees with you. Stupid, moron, racist, blah, blah, blah.
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lol I second that. dr nob proceded to ruin a perfectly fine morning argueing with people who are not here and then he picks fights with others in order to get that attention he is craving.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Discussion about black QBs would drop by 90% if Mistic and Priest didn’t bring it up all the time.
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I think the responses outnumber their posts 20-1
November 24th, 2012 at 11:17 am
The kid from Utah is supposed to be a 3 down player, JFB.
Agree with no 2 down players that high. Which is why I don’t like an ILB like Teo.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:18 am
The kid from Utah is supposed to be a 3 down player, JFB.
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Not buying it.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:18 am
LOL
Not buying it?
November 24th, 2012 at 11:19 am
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Discussion about black QBs would drop by 90% if Mistic and Priest didn’t bring it up all the time.
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I think the responses outnumber their posts 20-1
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This is true. But, you know how this blog works. Throw out certain topics, and it’s like poking a stick into a beehive.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’m actually fine with the BPA theory this offseason.
We have gaping holes in a lot of places.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:22 am
They just showed a Mantei highlight.
An INT off a terrible pass that was tipped in the air????
Pass!!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
783.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am
JFB, she’s not chubby. Just because she isn’t a tall super model doesn’t mean she is chubby. You people!
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Hey, she is 110% my type.
Just saying, she spits out a little RGIV and she is up the creek.
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I agree that broad is chubby by the width of her dress at the midsection. Plus there is not one athletic bone in her body (except when RG3 is plumbing). Love the Cans though.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Jarvis Jones is a 3/4 OLB???
You guys want to draft another 3-4 LB to play in the 4-3?
YOU people, lol!
November 24th, 2012 at 11:24 am
I agree that broad is chubby by the width of her dress at the midsection. Plus there is not one athletic bone in her body (except when RG3 is plumbing). Love the Cans though.
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So, are you saying that Gymnasts are chubby at aren’t athletic?
November 24th, 2012 at 11:25 am
*and aren’t athletic
November 24th, 2012 at 11:25 am
“Discussion about black QBs would drop by 90% if Mistic and Priest didn’t bring it up all the time.
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I think the responses outnumber their posts 20-1″
Yeah so you see a pattern here if they don’t post that crap and no one responds then the rest of us don’t have to wed through then hate posts.
So I would say it would drop by 100% if those 2 stopped the propaganda.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am
I’m not down with the “specialists” like a NT that early in the draft.
He literally, has no value as a pass-rusher. None.
Can’t we get someone just a shade below him in the run-stuffing arena, a few rounds later?
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3-4 makes sense, Mcclain was naturally ILB in 3-4 at ALABAMA, Seymour was 3-4 End in Pat days, Bryant could take over the other end spot and can pinch in at NT here and there, all we need is a true NT and couple of outside rushers, we could trade our top 10 pick to 15-20 spot and accumulate a Mid 2nd round pick in process, we can draft some one like Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M or Barkevious Mingo DE/OLB LSU, and draft NT Jonathan Jenkins Georgia in 2nd round
November 24th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Contrary to popular belief this is not a draft devoid of qb talent.
In fact the top 2 qbs in this class are ej manual & geno smith.
Ej manual is a prospect I really like, bray wilson Barkley & Murray all have proven they are not on the same planet as manual.
If big Mack & Davis are. It sold on Pryor ej can be had.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:27 am
I love Jones speed and pass-rushing ability, but if you told me he was 218 pounds I might believe you.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am
bray wilson Barkley & Murray all have proven they are not on the same planet as manual.
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I think the draft will play that out, and I would be willing to bet you at least 2 of those QB’s get picked before him, if not all of them.
Money where your mouth is, planet man?
November 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Yeah, I just saw him for the first time and thought he looked like a S.
PASS!!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I’d be more interested in the C and DT from Georgia than that S playing LB.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bungle bowl 2012 is near I can’t wait!!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Jfb,
I don’t care about what the so called experts think. NOr do I think where a qb is drafted proves anything.
Having watched them all play smith and manual are by far the best qbs in this draft.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
No to Barkley and Smith.
No more statues.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Von Miller isn’t that big either, he looks like S as well but that’s not stopping him from getting double digit sacks, We take Jarvis Jones only if we move to 3-4, and get a NT some where, if we can get him and get a 2nd rd pick some how through a trade and get his team Jonathan Jenkins NT in 2nd , i would be ecstatic
November 24th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Who are the QBs who move around to throw the ball like Rogers, Big Ben, and Freeman???
November 24th, 2012 at 11:37 am
teammate***
November 24th, 2012 at 11:37 am
If Reg picks a qb with his first pick expect another losing season, and a huge gamble.
Rebuilding mode has to start with linemen. Trade dmac, trade up trade down, but for the love of kittens, start stacking the roster with O/D linemen.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:38 am
I don’t care about what the so called experts think. NOr do I think where a qb is drafted proves anything.
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So nobodies opinion matters but your own, and the draft process means nothing.
And you are too chicken to wager.
10-4
November 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Rebuilding mode has to start with linemen
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yUUUUUUUUUUUUUUp
November 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am
We ain’t making playoffs with average O and average D, trying to improve on O with #1 WR, better OL, better coaches and getting the D to play average/above average is our only chance of making the playoffs next year
November 24th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bungle bowl 2012 is near I can’t wait!!!!
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Krikey M8, you sound like you’re drooling. I sure hope for your sanity this supposed “legacy” making game plays out as you hope/pray it does.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Georgia has these converted safties playing LB, lol.
Stay away from these undersized guys, and draft the Dlinemen keeping them clean!!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Hill smith is not a statue, he is mobile although not a speed burner. More like a mark brunelleschi type, move around the pocket & can pick up 10 yards on broken plays.
Manual on the other hand is far more dangerous as a runner plus he has the prototypical size and big time nfl arm.
Manual is a very accurate passer and smart with the football. Tough as they come he played last years bowl game on a broken leg & led a come from behind win.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:48 am
960.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:24 am
I agree that broad is chubby by the width of her dress at the midsection. Plus there is not one athletic bone in her body (except when RG3 is plumbing). Love the Cans though.
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So, are you saying that Gymnasts are chubby at aren’t athletic?
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That broad has nowhere near a gymnist body. Unless you are talking Special Olympics then yeah you got me there.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I am eager to see Manuel play today. Could really move him up the draft charts if he plays real well.
Not his fault, but his conference is trash and they played a puzzy azz out of conference schedule as well (up until today).
November 24th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Lol jfb didn’t you say manual was a bum?
Lol get your first look at him but one game doesn’t define him.
He is far better than Ponder ever was
If ponder is an nfl starter than manual should also get a shot
November 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
There is no Luck or Griffin in this draft, I will pass on all qb’s and get one in mid rounds to groom behind Palmer
November 24th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Mistic,
Is Manuel better than Adrian McPherson?
You know, the one who got run over by a golf cart driven by the Titans racoon mascot in a preseason game.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Or what about Xavier Lee?
November 24th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
YO TO THE YO TO THE HELLS FREAKN’ YEAH
The Beeeech Diggity has returned, you can all chill out now and bask under his epic blog glow
Or under the shadow of the Beeeech Lawg, who – in case you’ve been living under a rock – is now officially a full ft (12 inches of power) long
Spent last night inserting the Lawg into a few strippers in the doggy-style position
So obviously, my nads are a bit sore from spritzing all that precious Beeeech Lotion on the ceiling and beyond
Camped out in the Beeeech Pad today to witness the destruction of the Trojans and the triumph of the almighty Bruins, probably also write some dope hip hop lyrics
Or yeah and I’ve got a butt crack wax scheduled for 1:30
WRECKS N EFFECT N FULL EFFECT
November 24th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Lol jfb didn’t you say manual was a bum?
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I think he is about a 3rd to 4th round talent.
His leadership and off the field character is a huge plus, so mixed with the need for QB’s in the NFL, he will probably go in the 2nd round.
Too many turnovers, and bad decision making in all of his biggest games.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Watching Oregon vs Oregon St game, I would keep a close eye on Oregon DE/OLB Dion Jordan
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Manual is a very accurate passer and smart with the football. Tough as they come
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Sounds good to me.
Still wouldn’t take him with our 1st rd pick.
We have a “good” QB right now, but our OL and DL are a mess, especially projecting into next year.
We need to fix that first, imo.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Brahs, here’s a few tips on how to get amazing chiseled abs like the Beeech Dawg:
1) Power up your in-home margarita party machine
2) Do 8000 crunches
3) 69 a hot babe in your jacuzzi for exactly 40 mins
4) Hit Olive Garden, blow out a huge hot turd pie, take a killer nap
5) Have a fart contest with your buds until you pass out
BINGO – Dope abs in no time, Beeech Dawg style!
November 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
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SMH
November 24th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Dumb Beeech, I bet you’ve never been with a woman in your life.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
KrappyRat, did you just wake up?
Old Troll, you’ll be happy to know I spend most of the night humping 2 hot hizzies in the corn hole.
Now feel free to start getting drunk on your precious Malibu
November 24th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
“If Reg picks a qb with his first pick expect another losing season, and a huge gamble.
Rebuilding mode has to start with linemen. Trade dmac, trade up trade down, but for the love of kittens, start stacking the roster with O/D linemen.”
Yeah there are some of us out there that get it and have a decent football IQ!
With so many holes to fill you know that RM is going to trade down that high 1st round draft pick for several picks and get rid of a ton of these players some he might be bale to get a late round pick for.
I see him stock piling about 10-12 picks when its all said and done that will be used to rebuild the defense and the O-line.
I would wager that there are 20 new faces on this team by this time next year!
There is one thing I am certain of is that we will not pick a QB in this draft but we will in 2014 so Palmer will be here next year with this new group of guys should be exciting!
November 24th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
KrappyRat, did you just wake up?
Old Troll, you’ll be happy to know I spend most of the night humping 2 hot hizzies in the corn hole.
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You juvenile Handffkr. Jacking off to corn holes? You’re such a pathetic piece of schit.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Calm down, old goat
You obviously must be drunk again
And no, Moron, I wasn’t jacking off. I had both babes bent over in the doggy style position and was taking turns pleasuring them in all available holes.
Gots to keep it real, you dig?
November 24th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Carson Palmer is the leader on this team and he sets a good example by working hard not complaining about the rebuild he will wonder influence to the new crop of rookies we bring in next year.
They are keeping Palmer around for that and many more reasons he will be the veteran they keep on offense.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
what is becoming increasingly clear is that in Lotulelei, Hankins and Jenkins we could have three DTs wind up as top 10 picks. – Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
scouts paying attention to the battles going on in the trenches had to be impressed with the physical play from Georgia defensive linemen John Jenkins (No. 6), Garrison Smith (No. 56) and Kwame Geathers (No. 99). Jenkins, the only senior of the trio, was as dominant as I’ve ever seen him. Considering his massive frame (6-3, 358), scouts know Jenkins is going to be tough to move versus the run. Rather than simply rely on his mass as a barrier to rushing lanes, however, Jenkins showed excellent use of hands, consistently ripping through his opponents’ attempts to latch onto his chest plate. He showed good balance and surprisingly light feet, sliding left and right as needed to help keep contain and force Driskel and the Gators’ legitimate NFL-caliber back Mike Gillislee from turning the corner cleanly. He even occasionally broke through to supply some pass rush, showing a higher-revving motor than most players of his size. – Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
November 24th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Krappy, how come you and KrappyWife never had any rugrats?
Think of all the fun you would’ve had showing your kids magical places like Switzerland and Angels Camp
Speaking of kids, my 11 are coming to visit tomorrow. Taking them all to Sizzler along with a few of my ho’s
November 24th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I have no problem if we keep Carson, or if we trade him for some good value.
Either way seems like a win-win to me.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I am eager to see this Stewart kid get more touches.
He has been mildly impressive, especially for a PS guy.
He DESERVES more touches than Taiwan.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I have no problem if we keep Carson, or if we trade him for some good value.
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Agreed.
I actually would prefer to keep Palmer and have him stop with the late game INTS.
I think he CAN play better.
BUT, I realize this team isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, so yeah some value would be great.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Buenos dias friends! You know what has really been toasting my tamales? The disrespect that Hispanic QBs get, man. Mar Sanchez is a good QB. Not even Peyton Manning could win with his supporting cast. Sanchez single handedly took the Jets to the AFC title game twice. But people be disrespecting him because he is a Hispanic. I tell you what friends! You better get ready for the next wave. The next wave is a heat wave coming from south of the border. Viva los QBs!
November 24th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
When they start playing “real” football.
November 24th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
“There is one thing I am certain of is that we will not pick a QB in this draft but we will in 2014 so Palmer will be here next year with this new group of guys should be exciting!”
I hope Pryor can pull a Kaep in the next 2 years(we have him for another 3 years) … his out of pocket play as of right now would mask our deficiencies along the OL. i don’t think Palmer is the problem AT ALL, believe you me, but it seems like we need to introduce a dynamic on offense the defenses haven’t prepared for on film(not like teboner).
although in the end, i doubt DA does this, and rather keeps Pryor inactive from now till the end of the season. what a mistake that is to keep him out of special packages and keep Leinart as the #2(that’ll get hurt after 2 downs, which leaves us with zero QBs active)
November 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Brahs, my Boyz and I decided to hit up Red Lobster for their Crab Fiesta and man, are we going to drop some major turd bombs when this is all over
After 2 delicious cheesy biscuits I farted a few times, checked my undies and sure enough – skid row
Then we split some Parrot Isle Jumbo Coconut shrimp and 2 of my Boyz sprinted for the bathroom like their hair was on fire
Could hear the splashes from their dueces from our table
The main course should be out soon, I’ll let you all know how that turns out
November 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Yeah, pass on Manuel in the first few rounds.
Great kid, horrible on field decision making.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I don’t know if Chucky is the right guy to lead the Raiders again? Emotionally, I’d like to see it. When you get right down to it, this organization hasn’t recovered from trading him back then.
I honestly thought that Al had discovered a younger version of himself and would start to cede more and more everyday operations/authority to Chucky and Bruce Allen. Instead, the trade and 10 years of wandering the desert. But I think Reggie will get us on track.
From reading some earlier comments about Chucky, Callahan, play calling, etc…made me think back to those years and recollect.
- Chucky made us into a run/pound the ball team. (Wheatley, Kauffmann, Crockett, Jordan). *I remember Jordan dropping that pass against the Ravens! Still hurts).
- I wonder how different our world would be today if Crockett hadn’t got stuffed on that 3rd and 1 against the Pats?
Yeah, Chucky was pretty conservative and had his finger on the chicken switch sometimes, but I think people should remember this before canonizing Bill Callahan and Marc Trestman as offensive innovators and genuises.
- that awful Superbowl was a product of NOT running the ball enough. That Pittsburgh game earlier in the year got BC addicted to passing. Trestman is successful in the CFL because it is a passing league. You don’t win in the CFL by running.
- For that Superbowl Game, if BC was so smart? How come Chucky KNEW every play that was coming? It was embarrassing. The Bucs were laughing on the field. “This is just like practice!”
- The Raiders best chance at winning against a smaller, faster defence was to be physical and wear them down. The last game of the year against KC in the pouring rain…that’s the type of game plan they should have gone with.
- instead, we all had to watch our Prodigal Son draped in pewter hoist the Trophy. That was awful. I still have to swallow back down chunks of mini puke in my throat just thinking about it.
Anyways, whomever the Raiders have as a HC has to have a commanding presence and the respect of the players. The era of the stooge/lackey coaches hired on the cheap must end.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I hope Pryor can pull a Kaep in the next 2 years(we have him for another 3 years)
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I thought Pryor’s contract expires the end of 2014.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
We definitely need to develop a Young QB, whether that’s TP or somebody else.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I hope Pryor can pull a Kaep in the next 2 years(we have him for another 3 years)
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I thought Pryor’s contract expires the end of 2014.
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Trade for Sanchez man. You will not regret it.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Brahs, there’s this weird old janitor here at the Lobster who looks just like KrappyKell
He’s got a few rags in his back pocket and keeps tripping over the carpet
Poor old fool must be part of some work release program, holla
November 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
How come Chucky KNEW every play that was coming? It was embarrassing.
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I never understood this. You can’t switch a few of the calls over a week?
Hell, pitchers and catchers switch up the signs with a running on 2B, inning to inning. Not sure why in a week, blue 85 couldn’t switch to green 58.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Mistic,
Any take on that last pass Manuel threw?
I never saw Christian Ponder throw such a stupid pass.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Manuel will be the next great Hispanic QB.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
989.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Too many turnovers, and bad decision making in all of his biggest games.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Manual is a very accurate passer and smart with the football.
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Watch that horrendous red zone pass and tell me if he is “smart with the football” or has “bad decision making in all his big games”.
Do you even watch the games?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Who does this Manuel feller play for?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
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What would they be wearing if you were GM Klan hoods??
November 24th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have promoted LB Kaelin Burnett from the practice squad to the active roster.
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November 24th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Who does this Manuel feller play for?
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Forida State
He’s on TV right now, on ABC.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
EJ Manuel could go down as the most accurate passer in ACC history………at present that is where he stands.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
“This Manuel feller”
Ha Ha, Krappy I didn’t know you were around during the Dust Bowl
Speaking of my massive Red Lobster duece, it’s brewing right now, homies
Will probably get down a few more snow crab legs then hit the head for WWIII
November 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have promoted LB Kaelin Burnett from the practice squad to the active roster.
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Great, I’m ordering my SB tickets right now
November 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Who does this Manuel feller play for?
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Florida State.
Great kid, good size, a 3rd to 4th round talent, IMO, but will probably get drafted mid to late 2nd round due to intangibles. Has flopped in most of his big games.
Of course our buddy Mistic thinks he is the best QB in the draft. Or 2nd best behind Geno.
He isn’t.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I’d rather see Burnett get a shot than see Curry get 15 yard penalties.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I am pretty sure 504 is a black dude from Lousiana.
If not, he has the coolest white name ever (I mailed my Jamarcus jersey to him).
November 24th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
That INT wasn’t in the red zone, JFB.
Minus 2 pts for you, buddy.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I hope Pryor can pull a Kaep in the next 2 years(we have him for another 3 years)
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I thought Pryor’s contract expires the end of 2014.
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guess you’re right. still, that’s enough time to see what he has, so long as this coaching staff gives him a shot. inactivating him doesn’t prove crapola… is Kaep really that far ahead than he is? no wonder the whiners moved up in front of us in that draft(i think Wiz was the pick no matter what though)
November 24th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Alright Nerds, I stuffed a few cheesy biscuits into my fanny pack and am heading off for the head
So funny, that KrappyRat-looking janitor is screaming at some customers about his international travels
Holla
November 24th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
EJ Manuel could go down as the most accurate passer in ACC history
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What was he at the 25 yard line?
The guy intercepted it at the 10 yard line man. Same difference.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
No matter what happens, I can’t see the Raiders going into 2014 with no idea what they have in Pryor.
Lame duck years for QB’s never works.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
hey i had a thought
who here thinks we should sign Norv Turner as our OC when he gets sh!t canned after this season? my vote is YES … he’s a much better play caller than HC and he would be retiring in his home area in Marin county. he loves cali, Al Davis isn’t around for resentment purposes… boom!
November 24th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
yea well, one would think they’d give him a few shots in a forgetful season that is 2012.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
From Pro Football Weekly:
ROLB-WLB Kaelin Burnett, #12
Nevada PFW grade: 5.12
Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 234 | Sp: 4.66 | Arm: 33 5/8 | Hand: 9 1/4
Notes: Father died in a car accident before he was born. Brother, Kevin is a linebacker for the Dolphins. Also ran track (hurdles, high jump) as a Los Angeles, Calif. prep. Began his college career at Delta State, where he appeared in all 12 games (wore jersey No. 29), recording 20 tackles, one for loss (sack) with two batted passes as a true freshman in 2007. Sat out ’08 per transfer rules, garnering scout team player of the year recognition. Sat out ’09 spring practice (shoulder surgery). A reserve outside linebacker and rush end in the fall, played 11 games and tallied 12-1½-1½ with a forced fumble and a blocked punt. Did not play in the season opener against Notre Dame and SMU. Played all 13 games in ’10 and posted 30-4½-3 with a forced fumble. Suffered a severely cracked pelvis during ’11 spring practice, but recovered to start all 13 games at rush end (replaced Bengals third-rounder Dontay Moch) and produce 51-8-5 with a batted pass and a forced fumble. Graduated.
Bottom line: Has a lean, athletic build with room for added bulk, as well as fluid movement skills — has speed to rush the passer and flexibility to deploy in coverage. However, is raw and lacks bulk strength (too easily run at). One-year starter bounced back from a hip injury to record just average production, but impressive pro day numbers will prompt teams to consider him as a stand-up rusher, “Will” or nickel ‘backer. His 10-foot, 9-inch broad jump bested all defensive linemen and linebackers at the Combine and his 6.7-second 3-cone drill equaled Bruce Irvin’s pace-setting mark. Mentally tough and has a passion for the game.
NFL projection: Priority free agent.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
The last game of the season might be an easy win for us.
Norv coaching his last lame duck meaningless game, with nothing on the line for either team.
The Chargers might not even show up. Their fans certainly won’t.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
So Burnett is an undersized, uber-athlete, former track star.
#AlLives
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category. It’s just a matter of where he ends up in terms of his ACC career. EJ Manuel was a preseason Heisman candidate. He comes highly decorated which doesn’t preclude him from throwing int’s here or there. The truth is he is hands down the best QB to play at that school bar-none.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
The last game of the season might be an easy win for us.
Norv coaching his last lame duck meaningless game, with nothing on the line for either team.
The Chargers might not even show up. Their fans certainly won’t.
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and that’s what i’m sayin. when Norv doesn’t get considered for another HC job, norcal will be waiting with open arms. he will be a terrific playcaller once again, and he knows the Chokers team through and through from top to bottom.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Norv would be perfect for the Raiders
November 24th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
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What would they be wearing if you were GM Klan hoods??
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Fckin P O S racist dirtbag
November 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category
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I did not, Mistic did.
And Manuel won’t be drafted anywhere near Ponder was.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
This video is funny. Guy who lives in L.A. goes on rant about having to watch Charger games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI8CcQbMyEw&feature=plcp
November 24th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Bigelow, get a life, Nerd
While I’m partying with my homies at Red Lobster, you’re sitting around your mom’s apartment searching you tube for giggles
Go find a hobby. Or a part time job.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Bigelow, get a life, Nerd
While I’m partying with my homies at Red Lobster, you’re sitting around your mom’s apartment searching you tube for giggles
Go find a hobby. Or a part time job.
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LOL, your partying at Red Lobster? What kind of loser goes to Red Lobster to party?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category.
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The first stat I looked up, passing TD’s.
Ponder has more.
Next stat, rushing yards.
Ponder has more.
LOL
November 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
1040.Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category. It’s just a matter of where he ends up in terms of his ACC career. EJ Manuel was a preseason Heisman candidate. He comes highly decorated which doesn’t preclude him from throwing int’s here or there. The truth is he is hands down the best QB to play at that school bar-none.
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Are you including Heisman trophy winner Charlie Ward in that? Or fellow Heisman winner Chris Weinke?
Neither Weinke nor Ward (who ended up playing in the NBA instead) made any noise in the NFL, but you did say the best to play at Florida State.
Manuel hasn’t accomplished near what the other two did for the Seminoles, individually or as a part of a team. Heck, even Brad Johnson played there, and he won a Super Bowl.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Fckin P O S racist dirtbag
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The guy making the Kangol reference, right?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
And Manuel won’t be drafted anywhere near Ponder was.
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Here you go again nucklehead when are you gonna learn dummie. You never stop with your ignorant comments. Even though I believe ponder was drafted too high to say where Manuel will go is very premature. That kid stacks up right there with the best QB’s in the draft. No one knows exactly where he will go it’s up to the GM’s and team needs but to say he can’t go anywhere near Ponder at this point and time is just silly. But I’ll leave that up to you as always
Did RGIII go in the 3rd rnd as you so aptly predicted……….lol Where did Cam Newton go JFB late in the 2nd or worse as you predicted? Why not just shut up dude you sound better when you do!
November 24th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Dumb Beeech, I bet you’ve never been with a woman in your life.
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Kell? We’ve seen a picture of your “wife”.
Obviously you’ve never been with one either.
Considering how “she” looks, prob a good idea you avoid discussing women. Your batting avg is at 0.
Any chance you can post that pic of those swahili women laughing at her bowlcut?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Where did Cam Newton go JFB late in the 2nd or worse as you predicted?
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I predicted Cam Newton would go first overall and flop.
Right and right!!!!
And newsflash, Manuel won’t be picked in the top 10. Hate on me and call me all kinds of names, I will remind you of it in 6 months.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Priest,
Why the name-calling. You posted that EJ Manuel passed Ponder in “Every category”.
That was the most inaccurate posting of the 1,050 postings on this thread.
Any name-calling from me? Just a LOL, and an accurate statistical fact.
Did you just lie, make it up, or not even have a clue when you typed it?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Manuel with another terrible INT.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
EJ Manuel????
The guy who jsut threw it right to the LB?
Kinda unimpressive so far.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
If E J Manuel is the best QB prospect in this draft, then we certainly need to draft a DT!
November 24th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
We have our developmental QB prospect.
We don’t need another one.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
[...] made progress this week, but they’re not ready to go yet,” Allen said on Friday according to Steve Corkran of the Bay Area News [...]
November 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
We have our developmental QB prospect.
We don’t need another one.
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That’s very debatable.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
xraided Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
hey i had a thought
who here thinks we should sign Norv Turner as our OC when he gets sh!t canned after this season? my vote is YES … he’s a much better play caller than HC and he would be retiring in his home area in Marin county. he loves cali, Al Davis isn’t around for resentment purposes… boom!
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Um, no.
November 24th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Manuel is a very smart kid and has all the rah-rah intangibles.
Could be an NFL late bloomer. But if he were a sure fire 1st round pick , he would have left last year for the draft. I am sure he floated his name in the draft last year to the committe (he is a Senior).
And I am sure he got word back he was, a mid round pick in the eyes of the scouts.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I haven’t seen a QB this year worth taking in the top 10.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
That’s very debatable.
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What part?
November 24th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
I haven’t seen a QB this year worth taking in the top 10.
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I think Geno will be taken in the top 10, but he is limping to the finish line.
Other than that, not sure if any others are worthy of the first round, better yet top 10.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
I haven’t seen a QB this year worth taking in the top 10.
I said the same thing the previous draft when they ook bums like Locker and Ponder in the top 10. I would not draft Manuel high in the 1st rnd but that doesn’t mean he wont go there. Based on what I’ve seen done he could.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:19 am
JFB, she’s not chubby. Just because she isn’t a tall super model doesn’t mean she is chubby. You people!
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Robert-Griffin-III-Fiancee-girlfriend-Rebecca-Liddicoat.png === Another brainwashed race traitor who will wind up with a couple of Mongrels with no father and get beat up and slapped around along the way…she’ll be lucky if she gets out alive…..wake up you dumb white girls DON’T GO NEAR ANIMALS!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Priest are you going to apologize to me after Manuel doesn’t get taken as high as Ponder?
I mean, that was a little over the top, being that you YOURSELF don’t think he should be drafted that high either.
So you agree with the premise of my post, but feel the need to call me names, lol.
Very childish dude. Very, very
November 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
#1067, I would appreciate it if you did not associate my posts with your garbage.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I would definitely consider taking Geno Smith if I need a QB. But the other QB’s I really like are all underclassmen. But manuel could easily go high in the 1st rnd it’s just a matter of team needs the draft is a very funny business it is vey hard to predict what some GM will do given the chance.
The only thing you can say is where you think they should go, and that is a crapshoot. I was shocked when both Gabbert and Locker were chosen in the top 10. IMO that was all-time dumb. Both were 2nd rndrs at best IMO. Ponder was no more than a late 1st or early 2nd and he went 10th overall…….crazy things happen.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Priest, what do you think of Landry Jones?
November 24th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I said the same thing the previous draft when they ook bums like Locker and Ponder in the top 10.
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Those guys can play, Gabbert is the bum.
NOt sure why you are so down on Locker. 10 TD’s to 2 INT’s so far in his career, 90+ QBR, very very athletic, and maybe the strongest arm in the NFL.
Never will be the most accurate QB, but he has been pretty decent so far.
Eager to see what he does tomorrow.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Landry Jones is the ultimate gunslinger IMO. He will shoot you in it and shoot you out of it. He can be dealy accurate but will pull the trigger on some bonehead throws. I see him as a 2-3 rndr who could become a starter.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I really don’t know how bad McFadden’s injury is…but man is he disappointing! You would think that if he could walk he would at least suit up to keep the opposing team guessing. This is arguably the most important game of the young Regime and “New Excellence” Raiders. Coach we fired; our starting QB’s ex-team, trying to break a losing streak etc. etc.
Again I can’t talk about the medical nature and all that about the injury, but last year I saw him in a T-Shirt laughing it up on the sideline whilst were getting pummeled by San Diego. And now this. I just HOPE, that it is not lack of heart that is symptom of this team in general.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Priest,..tell that Geno garbage to Gary,..Monday morning,..I squared things with you and him,…but behave yourself on the air,..short leash. Youre welcome.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raidertalk,..DMC isnt hurt,..and wasnt last year either. Ya heard me?
November 24th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Why are we discussing QBs? I thought our main weakness was at DE
November 24th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Jones seems like one of those low floor, low ceiling guys.
Is who he is. Very, very accurate, tons of game and big game experience and wins, but limited arm strength.
A New Mexican, so I am rooting for him, but don’t think he will amount to a whole lot in the NFL.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I thought Locker was a fantastic player until I saw his senior campaign it was butt-ugly. He misses too many easy throws which cause your offense to sputter yeah then throw a dart. He is crazy athletic if he hangs a round long enough he could become a very good player. But he just relies way too much on his physical tools can’t anticipate and throw the rec’r open needs wide open rec’s he has a long way to go.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I’m sold on Damontre Moore trade down to 6-11 slot accumulate extra picks then draft him with which ever pick we get
November 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
But the STills kids Jones is throwing to will be a big-time player, IMO.
This draft is absolutely loaded with WR’s.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Have to say it…we need to look at RB this coming off-season.
At the beginning of the year, with Goodson’s preseason injury and McFadden’s injury history, I posted that it was completely FORESEEABLE that we would need another bruising RB. Now unfortunately it has been confirmed and we are relying on a converted FB/WR to take our snaps and the team is in a free-fall.
I am a fan of Reggie so far, and we were blasted by Salary-Cap and lack of Draft Picks last year, but DMAC just is not a starter in this league. Reggie please plan accordingly…
November 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raidertalk,..DMC isnt hurt,..and wasnt last year either. Ya heard me?
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What’s your theory? He just wants out?
November 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I don’t think Stewart can emerge as a starter or anything, but in very, very limited sample size so far, he looks adequate in pass-protection and comfortable running between the tackles.
Could be a future #2. COULD
November 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Mc20,
I think we will be picking in the 6-11 range anyways.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
No Raidertalk, he just doesnt want to play football. Maybe someday you will get things that are clear to see.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Here’s where a QB will get the int but the rec’r caused it. THis also makes a QB hesitant at times make throws which will cause other bad plays. When grading a QB you have to take all of this under consideration to accurately grade a player.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Don’t orry about a QB with the 2013 picks…
Cause with DA nd Reggie at the helm,
We ‘ll be picking FIRST in 2014…
November 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Anybody see that center from ALA, that kid is a mauler, ALA run game is the best in the nation and their Oline is the reason why. AJ Mc. wouldnt be a Heisman candidate if it were not for that line,its the Best oline in the nation and we need the center off that line to be the center on our line next year.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Here’s where a QB will get the int but the rec’r caused it. THis also makes a QB hesitant at times make throws which will cause other bad plays. When grading a QB you have to take all of this under consideration to accurately grade a player.
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except when the Qb’s name is Carson Palmer right
November 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Whoever said the only two players that need to be taken is Jarvis Jones/ or Teo..
WRONG WRONG WRONG
Demantre Moore OLB/ DE passrusher out of Texas AM. Better stats then Jarvis jones, Clowner and Mingo from LSU. Leads tackles, Sacks. His mentor is Von Miller yet is bigger and heavier then him.
Raiders should only be targeting Jones, Moore, Te’o or Star Louteli. Yes TEO could go number 1 and if a team is dumb enough to do that for their “safest pick in the draft” then go ahead. If Jarvis Jones or MOORE slips to us.. thats great for the Raiders.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I would draft this corner Xavier Rhodes very high though I’ve liked him the past 3 years. Great size and quickness and can close has long arms and is a playmaker. Rhodes can flatout play….
November 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Anybody see that center from ALA, that kid is a mauler,
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His name is Barrett (Jones) as well.
How’s that for reversing some bad juju? Draft ANOTHER guy from ‘Bama, and another center named Barrett.
Maybe it can be like the Ghostbusters crossing the streams or something.
Most mocks have him going in the late 1st or early 2nd, which was suprising to see.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Look forward to the post tomorrow of the “headlines” with Corky picking out the hottest girl on twitter with some Raider gear on.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Here’s where a QB will get the int but the rec’r caused it. THis also makes a QB hesitant at times make throws which will cause other bad plays. When grading a QB you have to take all of this under consideration to accurately grade a player.
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except when the Qb’s name is Carson Palmer right
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Listen man get Palmer off your brain for 5 seconds. Go somehwere else with your frreakin ignorance…
November 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Yo Priest,…Gary thinks youre a weird little twerp,…but thanks to me you are allowed to call again,..go for it man,..Monday morning. Tell him Pryor, I mean The Kid, just needs a chance to start,..then its hall of fame all the way baby. Word. #KNBR
November 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
We’ve had pretty bad results withSEC players in the higher rounds, would be good to see that reversed…
November 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
How weird, Raider fans since what, late September, already in draft talk mode,..while Niner fans will discuss the draft around mid to late April. #Justsayin
November 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
No doubt draft talk in week 12 SUCKS…
But, how long can we debate QB’s or the big question,
“will we win another game this year?”…
I don’t think we will with the play the last 3 weeks making it look like the team has QUIT.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Here’s where a QB will get the int but the rec’r caused it. THis also makes a QB hesitant at times make throws which will cause other bad plays. When grading a QB you have to take all of this under consideration to accurately grade a player.
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except when the Qb’s name is Carson Palmer right
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Listen man get Palmer off your brain for 5 seconds. Go somehwere else with your frreakin ignorance…
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ignorance??? really? you and mistic are the only posters in here who like to magnify every one of Palmers miscues and he never gets the benefit of the doubt that he’s playing with lousy running game, lousy blocking and lousy receivers
November 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I don’t think Stewart can emerge as a starter or anything, but in very, very limited sample size so far, he looks adequate in pass-protection and comfortable running between the tackles.
Could be a future #2. COULD
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I agree, I didnt realize he was the back from stanford
I dont see how that kid didnt get drafted.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:22 am
They just showed a Mantei highlight.
An INT off a terrible pass that was tipped in the air????
Pass!!!!
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well, i guess ur well informed then. on the other hand, i’ve watched him play every game for 4 years. so i think i might know a bit more about him.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I don’t care about what the so called experts think.
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yes, we know. knowledge from experts has no effect on u.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
No Raidertalk, he just doesnt want to play football. Maybe someday you will get things that are clear to see.
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I hate to say it, but you may be on to something. Maybe McFadden’s like “I’ll play 9 games a season and then tank it.” All the while he collects the most hype and 60 million dollars, 25 guaranteed. More money then 3 generations of my family would ever make in their collective lifetimes. All thanks to The Late Al Davis generosity.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Hey if we win tomorrow and Pitt loses, we are only 2 games out of the WC AND we hold the tiebreaker over them.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row
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and 5 black #1 qb’s to choose from on the roster.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
If Season were to end today we will be picking at 6 but i believe by the end of the year we will end up around 9-11 slot, D MOORE is slotted to go anywhere from 6-13
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
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November 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row
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and 5 black #1 qb’s to choose from on the roster.
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Sub them in games in different situations madden 13 style
November 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Darren McFadden is pure cancer,..and it has spread throughout the team,..they all hate the guy, know hes not hurt at all…but hes only on the roster 6 more weeks so that tumor will be removed soon.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Hey if we win tomorrow and Pitt loses, we are only 2 games out of the WC AND we hold the tiebreaker over them.
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STOP. Its over
November 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:16 am
RGIII married a chubby white chick, but she got some cans though.
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bymystique.com/pictures/2012/05/rebecca-Liddicoat-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bymystique.com/2012/05/01/rg3s-fiance-rebecca-liddicoat-this-chick-works-real-fast&h=452&w=412&sz=39&tbnid=yt4CSuIKy9PgTM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=82&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRG3’s%2Bwife%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=RG3’s+wife&usg=__pOhuQ38Asbk-3fI7IynmnxKPk38=&docid=Tiwisllv5S7R3M&sa=X&ei=xE6xUKO_CenoiwLYy4CwBw&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAQ&dur=5610
November 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Hey Vegas,…shut up with that playoff talk. Too much free booze in Las Vegas,..either that or you just havent been watching football this year. The Raiders are going 3-13,..how they got the 3 is still mind boggling.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Calm down, old goat
You obviously must be drunk again
And no, Moron, I wasn’t jacking off. I had both babes bent over in the doggy style position and was taking turns pleasuring them in all available holes.
Gots to keep it real, you dig?
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what kinda pathetic life must a guy have to spend so much time trying to convince a blog he really and truly does get women. what a clown.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
edward teach Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
1040.Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category. It’s just a matter of where he ends up in terms of his ACC career. EJ Manuel was a preseason Heisman candidate. He comes highly decorated which doesn’t preclude him from throwing int’s here or there. The truth is he is hands down the best QB to play at that school bar-none.
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Are you including Heisman trophy winner Charlie Ward in that? Or fellow Heisman winner Chris Weinke?
Neither Weinke nor Ward (who ended up playing in the NBA instead) made any noise in the NFL, but you did say the best to play at Florida State.
Manuel hasn’t accomplished near what the other two did for the Seminoles, individually or as a part of a team. Heck, even Brad Johnson played there, and he won a Super Bowl.
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Sorry ET, I didn’t see your post until now. Ward was at bets IMO 3-4 rnd pick too small weak arm he was smart and not nearly well put together or big as Manuel. Weinke was damn near30 years old not as accurate and you saw him play very well at time still I’ll take Manuel and Brad Johnson please….
November 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
ignorance??? really? you and mistic are the only posters in here who like to magnify every one of Palmers miscues
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You just like to argue, lol.
Priest has said Palmer is playing well on multiple occasions.
November 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
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What would they be wearing if you were GM Klan hoods??
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good God.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Bigelow, get a life, Nerd
While I’m partying with my homies at Red Lobster, you’re sitting around your mom’s apartment searching you tube for giggles
Go find a hobby. Or a part time job.
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he’s partying with his homies and finding time to blog his stupidity every few minutes. yeah. it’s a beech party alright. beech and some food. period the end.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
ignorance??? really? you and mistic are the only posters in here who like to magnify every one of Palmers miscues
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You just like to argue, lol.
Priest has said Palmer is playing well on multiple occasions.
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But he never tells all that to his best buddy that when grading a qb you have to take everything under consideration to accurately grade a player
November 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
ignorance??? really? you and mistic are the only posters in here who like to magnify every one of Palmers miscues
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You just like to argue, lol.
Priest has said Palmer is playing well on multiple occasions
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As many times as I have supported him they can only notice if I critigue him in some small way.
They want everyone to bow to him or else….
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
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What would they be wearing if you were GM Klan hoods??
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good God.
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Again, you’re disappointed with the KANGOL reference, right?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Here’s where a QB will get the int but the rec’r caused it. THis also makes a QB hesitant at times make throws which will cause other bad plays. When grading a QB you have to take all of this under consideration to accurately grade a player.
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except when the Qb’s name is Carson Palmer right
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BAM!!! priest exposed!
November 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I’m going to watch FSU to see what this Manuel kid and that Werner kid is all about
November 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I have been a huge Palmer fan since his frosh year at USC even in light of a lot of critism he rec’d from SC fans who couldn’t see that Hackett was holding him back. I had serious arguments with a particular scout over what kind of pro he would be…….He is supremely talented but he has to take the late game int’s out of his game…..period
November 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Good Lord, you fck’ers are still going at it about Palmer?
Hahaha
November 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
ignorance??? really? you and mistic are the only posters in here who like to magnify every one of Palmers miscues
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You just like to argue, lol.
Priest has said Palmer is playing well on multiple occasions
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As many times as I have supported him they can only notice if I critigue him in some small way.
They want everyone to bow to him or else….
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that’s right b!tch. bow down and worship the golden haired hero. u suck.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Palmer? Who’s that ? LMAO JK
November 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
What happened to EJ MANUEL?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
This one guy as Palmer on the brain
I wnat to see what kind of finisher Manuel is to see where I would ultimately rate him……..he leaves some plays on the field and he needs to speed up his game a bit however with the right system and coach he could be very effective.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Mistic if you were our GM we would probably have the #1 pick an NFL record 5 years in a row and all our coaches would wear Kangols on game days.
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What would they be wearing if you were GM Klan hoods??
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good God.
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Again, you’re disappointed with the KANGOL reference, right?
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no, the kangol remark was pretty funny. mildly taking a little jab at black style. the instant elevating it to the klan is ridiculous. shoulda said something about cowboy hats or something. maybe a reference to dockers. that woulda been funny.
i own two kangols by the way.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
PALMER BLAH BLAH BLAH I never talk about Palmer as much as one of your best buddy does, LMAO @ Legacy game for Palmer? wtf kinda sh1t is that? I didn’t know we were playing in SB tomorrow :-/
November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I have been a huge Palmer fan since his frosh year at USC even in light of a lot of critism he rec’d from SC fans who couldn’t see that Hackett was holding him back. I had serious arguments with a particular scout over what kind of pro he would be…….He is supremely talented but he has to take the late game int’s out of his game…..period
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finally sounding sane. except the “scout” was undoubtedly mistic.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mcfadden = McBust
Seymour = AARP
No pride in playing the NFL! Just on the freakin payroll! Quitters…never played with heart!
November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
BIG HIT in Florida, FSU game on special teams
November 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I have been a huge Palmer fan since his frosh year at USC even in light of a lot of critism he rec’d from SC fans who couldn’t see that Hackett was holding him back. I had serious arguments with a particular scout over what kind of pro he would be…….He is supremely talented but he has to take the late game int’s out of his game…..period
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finally sounding sane. except the “scout” was undoubtedly mistic.
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LMAO
November 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
DaRaiders022 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mcfadden = McBust
Seymour = AARP
No pride in playing the NFL! Just on the freakin payroll! Quitters…never played with heart!
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Both should be traded for whatever we can get in return
November 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
This one guy as Palmer on the brain
I wnat to see what kind of finisher Manuel is to see where I would ultimately rate him……..he leaves some plays on the field and he needs to speed up his game a bit however with the right system and coach he could be very effective.
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nobody cares where u rate them. i’ll take todd mcsahy and mel kiper, u know the guys that nfl gm’s pay for their ratings, instead of the “black man’s guide to the draft (and black qb’s)”.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Was just curious if we switched to 3-4 would Seymour flash his dominance he showed playing End in New England? would his KNees hold up when he wouldn’t be asked to rush the passer as much?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
i think seymour’s health has declined to the point where he will never be right.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I think DT is the priority for this team with the first pick. We have an aging leader at DT in Seymore who can not stay on the field any longer. “Tommy Kelly” need I say more. (OK aging as well, gives up on plays and commits strategic penalties and symptomatic of the over-paid-under-achieving players the last decade (see Stan Routt)).
We have not had a legitimate DT since the days of Sam Adams and John Parella. And with those two we had great ability to stop the run on goal-line and short-yardage situations.
Also, our Linebackers, who have faded down the stretch, would greatly benefit from run-stopper in the middle to give them more mobility and less wear as the seasons go on.
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
November 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
You have a choice by not reading it, your choice!
November 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I think DT is the priority for this team with the first pick. We have an aging leader at DT in Seymore who can not stay on the field any longer. “Tommy Kelly” need I say more. (OK aging as well, gives up on plays and commits strategic penalties and symptomatic of the over-paid-under-achieving players the last decade (see Stan Routt)).
We have not had a legitimate DT since the days of Sam Adams and John Parella. And with those two we had great ability to stop the run on goal-line and short-yardage situations.
Also, our Linebackers, who have faded down the stretch, would greatly benefit from run-stopper in the middle to give them more mobility and less wear as the seasons go on.
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
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We need a DT too , but we need a pass rushing DE more than a DT , we can always putt Houston in his natural position at DT
November 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
i think seymour’s health has declined to the point where he will never be right.
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As much as i hate to agree with you , I think you’re right, i just wish he could have made a difference or wished we could have switched to 3-4 to use both McClain and Seymour in their natural positions, Bryant is strong enough for NT
November 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Carson Palmer is the leader on this team and he sets a good example by working hard not complaining about the rebuild he will wonder influence to the new crop of rookies we bring in next year.
They are keeping Palmer around for that and many more reasons he will be the veteran they keep on offense.
…and a partridge in a pear tree…!
November 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Hey guys! Hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving. I saw on PFT that the league is considering banning all blocks below the waist.
Can anyone tell me whether banning cut blocks essentially renders the ZBS obsolete?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Building both sides of the line should be the priority in the draft.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
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All solid choices though, you can add Jonathat Jenkins from Georgia on that list too..
It’s just that we desperately need pass rushers more than run stoppers
November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Wheter you guys like it or not only Palmer can chnage the minds of the natiional pundits who are calling the trade a robbery……..that is NOT Mistic1
All you have to do is listen to guys like Florio and Bayless and many others they think Palmer has NOT played well. Because of the int’s which is all that Mistic is saying. But you Butt hurts can handle it because you want nothing but praise for him. Well if he has the ability to change everyones opinion even Mistic’s if he plays to his talent.
Stop blaming Mistic1 for his gaffes he’s not throwing the ints Palmer is. When it stops all Mistic an do is stop………..period
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
they should cut blocks below the waist. a lot of changes are coming due to all of the concussion stuff. guys will just not be able to hit with their helmets anymore. it will more like form tackling for everyone.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
We need a DT too , but we need a pass rushing DE more than a DT , we can always putt Houston in his natural position at DT
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Houston may be too small to play DT and be the replacement for Kelly/Seymore.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
That nose tackle from NOTRE DAME is f’nn solid. Watch him tonight
November 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Wheter you guys like it or not only Palmer can chnage the minds of the natiional pundits who are calling the trade a robbery……..that is NOT Mistic1
All you have to do is listen to guys like Florio and Bayless and many others they think Palmer has NOT played well. Because of the int’s which is all that Mistic is saying. But you Butt hurts can handle it because you want nothing but praise for him. Well if he has the ability to change everyones opinion even Mistic’s if he plays to his talent.
Stop blaming Mistic1 for his gaffes he’s not throwing the ints Palmer is. When it stops all Mistic an do is stop………..period
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nobody credible is calling it a robbery.
bayless is a worthless clown.
palmer HAS played well. qb’s who throw for 4800/28 are playing well dingus.
mistic will never stop.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
1151
Agree. Seems unstoppable at times. Makes Manti’s job easier.
Can we have both? lol
November 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
That nose tackle from NOTRE DAME is f’nn solid. Watch him tonight
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louis nix. he’s tuff. that whole defense is great.
the true stud is stephon tuitt, a sophomore DE. 6′6″/305 and runs like an LB. he will be amazing as a pro.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Wheter you guys like it or not only Palmer can chnage the minds of the natiional pundits who are calling the trade a robbery……..that is NOT Mistic1
All you have to do is listen to guys like Florio and Bayless and many others they think Palmer has NOT played well. Because of the int’s which is all that Mistic is saying. But you Butt hurts can handle it because you want nothing but praise for him. Well if he has the ability to change everyones opinion even Mistic’s if he plays to his talent.
Stop blaming Mistic1 for his gaffes he’s not throwing the ints Palmer is. When it stops all Mistic an do is stop………..period
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Those guys don’t know sh1t , it’s not like they are paid to like you said , take all the things into consideration and fairly make accurate statements, they will only say something all guys say when the team wins , it’s because of QB, when team loses it all qb’s fault, and when it comes to Mistic, we know where he’s talking from , so therefore his sh1t merits no attention
November 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Manuel just got the snots knocked out of him.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
1151
Agree. Seems unstoppable at times. Makes Manti’s job easier.
Can we have both? lol
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It’s possible Nix could last till late 1st and early 2nd picks, so maybe we might be able to snatch a 1st rd pick from Jerry Jones? and trade that pick a few spots back and accumulate more picks and draft that guy
November 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
I’ve watched Barkley, Geno Smith, and Manuel now. All three of them played terrible in the games I watched. Hope Reggie passes on all of them.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Two great college games on the boob tube right now. and a third one just started
Pac ten, baby or Pac 12. Can you even count Colorado?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Manuel hasn’t come up big in a big moment yet in his career.
Or at least in his biggest moments he has had.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
scary situation
November 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bymystique.com/pictures/2012/05/rebecca-Liddicoat-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bymystique.com/2012/05/01/rg3s-fiance-rebecca-liddicoat-this-chick-works-real-fast&h=452&w=412&sz=39&tbnid=yt4CSuIKy9PgTM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=82&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRG3’s%2Bwife%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=RG3’s+wife&usg=__pOhuQ38Asbk-3fI7IynmnxKPk38=&docid=Tiwisllv5S7R3M&sa=X&ei=xE6xUKO_CenoiwLYy4CwBw&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAQ&dur=5610
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I bought my wife the same necklace, lol.
That is the Jane Seymour open heart one. But is it a white gold necklace like mine, or did RGIII go cheap and it is the silver??
November 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Running QB’s are vulnerable to big hits due to their attention big divided
November 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
What do you guys think of that Manit Te’o LB? Is he all hype or is he the real thing?
I always get a bit wary about MLBs that are too hyped out of college.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Being **
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
No qb should be taken till at least 4th round.. if u trade some players.. maybe 3rd.
We need D help bad. Stanford and Notre Dame has HOG D on both teams.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
This was a legacy game for E.J. Manuel. He has failed so far.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
1115.Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
edward teach Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
1040.Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category. It’s just a matter of where he ends up in terms of his ACC career. EJ Manuel was a preseason Heisman candidate. He comes highly decorated which doesn’t preclude him from throwing int’s here or there. The truth is he is hands down the best QB to play at that school bar-none.
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Are you including Heisman trophy winner Charlie Ward in that? Or fellow Heisman winner Chris Weinke?
Neither Weinke nor Ward (who ended up playing in the NBA instead) made any noise in the NFL, but you did say the best to play at Florida State.
Manuel hasn’t accomplished near what the other two did for the Seminoles, individually or as a part of a team. Heck, even Brad Johnson played there, and he won a Super Bowl.
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Sorry ET, I didn’t see your post until now. Ward was at bets IMO 3-4 rnd pick too small weak arm he was smart and not nearly well put together or big as Manuel. Weinke was damn near30 years old not as accurate and you saw him play very well at time still I’ll take Manuel and Brad Johnson please….
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While I agree with you about their respective pro potentials (Ward and Weinke), I was responding to your comment about Manuel being the “best QB to play there (Florida State), bar none”.
Given that both Weinke and Ward won a Heisman and a National Championship, I would have to respectfully disagree with you there. Manuel may indeed have the better pro career, but his college accomplishments do not compare with Ward’s or Weinke’s.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Don’t follow college football much, so is this like the last week of regular season college football?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Don’t follow college football much, so is this like the last week of regular season college football?
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I think it’s the last week of regular season. Still have the conference championship games to go.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Manuel has a tough task ahead he can either validate his grade or put it in question. He doesn’t have to win necessarily but he has to show moxey and competitiveness if he does you’ll see the team rally if he doesn’t they’ll fade……..this is when great QB’s play their best……..period
November 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Time for el manuel to prove he is a top pick
November 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
He has a franchise pump fake
November 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Manuel certainly looks better than Pryor did in college.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
One thing I notice about Manuel he needs to speed up hs procession he comes off the primary to slow.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
TE out of UCLA 6ft 7 Joseph Fauria. Dude can ball
November 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
It seems as though Te’o would be a great leader though. Pretty inspirational story so far.
We’ll see how he does against the Trojans…
November 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Wheter you guys like it or not only Palmer can chnage the minds of the natiional pundits who are calling the trade a robbery……..that is NOT Mistic1
All you have to do is listen to guys like Florio and Bayless and many others they think Palmer has NOT played well. Because of the int’s which is all that Mistic is saying. But you Butt hurts can handle it because you want nothing but praise for him. Well if he has the ability to change everyones opinion even Mistic’s if he plays to his talent.
Stop blaming Mistic1 for his gaffes he’s not throwing the ints Palmer is. When it stops all Mistic an do is stop………..period
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Actually, most pundits will think Palmer has played decently this year. Not good, not bad but decent. And I can agree. If you look at the statistics, that is also what you are going to see: Palmer about average in QB rating, about average in completion percentage, and actually in the top 10 in TD’s. Not good, but not terrible.
The thing that everyone seems to forget is the first rule of quarterbacking: the Q’s best friend is a strong run game. When you figure we have basically the worst or second worst run game in the entire league, then all of a sudden Palmer is miraculous. Which is more the case if you actually understand the game.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
That’s what I mean he needs to speed up his reads……he tends to hold it tooo long.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category.
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do you just make this sh1t up, or does someone feed you this garbage?
November 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Had he went through his procession quicker he had a man open but he stayed with his primary way too long.This is an easy fix with the right coach but t is a very bad flaw.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Speed up his procession?
Its his arm that is inaccurate, not his procession. Looked to me like he would have trouble hitting barndoors, just like TP
November 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Anthony Barr, UCLA.
I am going to throw it out there, but he will be a better pro than Jarvis Jones.
Bigger and faster.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Florida looks like BCS material
I like running games
November 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
1151
Agree. Seems unstoppable at times. Makes Manti’s job easier.
Can we have both? lol
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It’s possible Nix could last till late 1st and early 2nd picks, so maybe we might be able to snatch a 1st rd pick from Jerry Jones? and trade that pick a few spots back and accumulate more picks and draft that guy
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nix is a junior
November 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Landry Jones is my guy. Raiders 3rd round pick.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Raidertalk Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
What do you guys think of that Manit Te’o LB? Is he all hype or is he the real thing?
I always get a bit wary about MLBs that are too hyped out of college.
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absolutely the real deal
November 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
989.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Too many turnovers, and bad decision making in all of his biggest games.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Manual is a very accurate passer and smart with the football.
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Whipped ‘Ol Misty’s azz on that one.
Great call Mistic. Very accurate and smart with the football, LMAO
November 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
This was a legacy game for E.J. Manuel. He has failed so far.
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lol. legacy game. i’ve never even heard of that one before missdick.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
A Notre Dame loss all but guarantee’s two SEC teams in the BCS game.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
One thing I notice about Manuel he needs to speed up hs procession he comes off the primary to slow.
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ur not fooling anyone by using scout-talk. ur evaluations are poor.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You compared him to Ponder and he has passed Ponder in every category.
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do you just make this sh1t up, or does someone feed you this garbage?
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a little of both. hilarious to see his takes.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Actually, most pundits will think Palmer has played decently this year. Not good, not bad but decent. And I can agree. If you look at the statistics, that is also what you are going to see: Palmer about average in QB rating, about average in completion percentage, and actually in the top 10 in TD’s. Not good, but not terrible.
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Seymour ask yourself would you give upa 1st and 2nd for that? That is all I’m saying……he hasn’t lived up to that trade.
I think what Raider fans are giddy about having a player with his talent but when you consider the trade we didn’t get what the trade commanded. Yes he does spin the ball with the best of them he always has. But his decision making in late game situations leaves something to be desired.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Had he went through his procession quicker he had a man open but he stayed with his primary way too long.This is an easy fix with the right coach but t is a very bad flaw.
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see there u go. not an easy fix at all. at all. but ur already making excuses for him. why even though he struggles, he still will be a great pro “if someone would only give him a chance”. newsflash: he’s being given his chance right now!
November 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Manuel needs a lot of polish he has the tools necessary but he’s still too deliberate in execution. I would not draft this player even in the 1st rnd based on what I see but that doesn’t mean he wont be.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Actually, most pundits will think Palmer has played decently this year. Not good, not bad but decent. And I can agree. If you look at the statistics, that is also what you are going to see: Palmer about average in QB rating, about average in completion percentage, and actually in the top 10 in TD’s. Not good, but not terrible.
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Seymour ask yourself would you give upa 1st and 2nd for that? That is all I’m saying……he hasn’t lived up to that trade.
I think what Raider fans are giddy about having a player with his talent but when you consider the trade we didn’t get what the trade commanded. Yes he does spin the ball with the best of them he always has. But his decision making in late game situations leaves something to be desired.
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the team hasn’t allowed him to live up to it. any real fan knows that. u have no credibility cuz u refuse to admit what everyone knows.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Manuel needs a lot of polish he has the tools necessary but he’s still too deliberate in execution. I would not draft this player even in the 1st rnd based on what I see but that doesn’t mean he wont be.
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that’s exactly what it means.
priest and mistic rarely answer to my criticisms cuz they know i will eat them alive.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
UCLA has a lot of pro players on their team. Neuheisel was a crappy HC apparently, but could recruit with the best of them.
Barr, Franklin, Shaq Evans, Fauria, McDonald at safety, Hundley will get drafted and is my favorite of the “Wave” guys.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I would not draft this player even in the 1st rnd based on what I see but that doesn’t mean he wont be.
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Priest, stop it.
Most places have him ranked as the 4th to 6th best QB in the draft (with the juniors coming out).
Today, did him no favors.
2nd round pick at best, due to his intangibles. Prob 3rd to 4th rounder, maybe later.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Landry Jones just took Oklahoma on a game tying drive.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Had he went through his procession quicker he had a man open but he stayed with his primary way too long.This is an easy fix with the right coach but t is a very bad flaw.
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see there u go. not an easy fix at all. at all. but ur already making excuses for him. why even though he struggles, he still will be a great pro “if someone would only give him a chance”. newsflash: he’s being given his chance right now!
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This dude is obsessed with me, Move on boy I got enough fans.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
EJ MANUEL LAID A BIG GOOSE EGG IN HIS “LEGACY GAME”
November 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I would not draft this player even in the 1st rnd based on what I see but that doesn’t mean he wont be.
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Priest, stop it.
Most places have him ranked as the 4th to 6th best QB in the draft (with the juniors coming out).
Today, did him no favors.
2nd round pick at best, due to his intangibles. Prob 3rd to 4th rounder, maybe later.
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Well you gave your opinion I gave mine. Let the teams make their ddecisions.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
We sure gave up a lot for “decent”.
Glo was decent.
Could have had him this year for half the price plus our draft picks.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Well you gave your opinion I gave mine. Let the teams make their ddecisions.
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Fair enough.
What do you think of Anthony Barr at UCLA?
You were a big JPP guy prior to that draft (kudo’s) and he reminds me a little of him and Jason Taylor (as a college player of course).
November 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
2nd round pick at best, due to his intangibles. Prob 3rd to 4th rounder, maybe later.
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My goodness, isn’t that what the man said?????
LMFAO
November 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Don’t follow college football much, so is this like the last week of regular season college football?
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I think it’s the last week of regular season. Still have the conference championship games to go.
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yeah that’s what i was wondering, now Alabama and ND or Georgia will have like 6 weeks to prepare for national championship right ?
November 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Landry Jones 500 yards passing today.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
If Jason Campbell was our QB, we would be lucky to have 1 win at this time and he would have been replaced by M Lienart or Pryor after the 5th game of the season
November 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
My goodness, isn’t that what the man said?????
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AFter the game, LOL.
I said the same thing before kickoff and he tried to type fight me, called me a knucklehead, idiot, dummy.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
yeah that’s what i was wondering, now Alabama and ND or Georgia will have like 6 weeks to prepare for national championship right ?
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yeah BCS Championship is on Jan. 7
November 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Barr is a player no question he needs to add some muscle but he has all kinds of potential so does DJones. That defense has some players on it. I like both corners and tghe safeties they have a very uinderrated team. The same goes for Stanford a lto of outstanding talent on that defense I would draft at leats 3 players on Stanfords defense.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
So many good college games at same time, but I’m check out future Raider Damontre Moore Texas A&M even though they’re playing against weak team
November 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
One of the UCLA corners seem like a future NFL safety.
Their safety is Tim McDonald’s son (and the McDonald for USC’s brother).
November 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
If Jason Campbell was our QB, we would be lucky to have 1 win at this time
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So do you really feel good about giving up those draft picks for the THREE wins we have instead?
November 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Barr is listed at 238lbs? Is that right? Seems like he is gonna need a year or two just to 25lbs
November 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
called me a knucklehead, idiot, dummy.
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Well, he didn’t call you stupid.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
If Jason Campbell was our QB, we would be lucky to have 1 win at this time
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So do you really feel good about giving up those draft picks for the THREE wins we have instead?
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Def feel better than being on the pace to share certain record with Detroit lines of few years ago
November 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Lions***^
November 24th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiders still could have beat the Chiefs with Jason Campbell. 2-14
November 24th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
If Johnny Football can grow 2 inches somehow, he will be a top 5 pick.
Pay no attention to Mistic saying he has “the weakest arm he has ever seen in college football” (seriously he said that; didn’t watch a CAl game the last 2 years apparently). SI reported last year as redshirt he wowed people by matching Tannehill in practice throw for throw.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Promote-Kaelin-Burnett/69db088d-1090-4898-85fd-ba763f3eb242
November 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
With Palmer we’re close to becoming a very good O , if we can add # 1 WR, better Oline and better play caller
November 24th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Hogan looked like Luck on that run
November 24th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Barr is listed at 238lbs? Is that right?
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I think he was recruited as a RB and played there as a freshman.
Plenty of room on that frame to add 10 pounds.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
If Johnny Football can grow 2 inches somehow, he will be a top 5 pick.
Pay no attention to Mistic saying he has “the weakest arm he has ever seen in college football” (seriously he said that; didn’t watch a CAl game the last 2 years apparently). SI reported last year as redshirt he wowed people by matching Tannehill in practice throw for throw.
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Who is this Johny football guy you talking about ? Texas A&M QB?
November 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The Hulk’s son looks pretty good.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Texas A&M QB?
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Yup, Johnny Fkn Football
November 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
UCLA defenders, eh???
LMFAO
November 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Texas A&M QB?
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Yup, Johnny Fkn Football
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He looked really good against #1 Alabama couple of weeks ago
November 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
This Stanford QB is aweful talented. Call me crazy but frosh year to frosh year he looks a lot like Luck to me. Since he has been in 3 games ago their offense looks tons better.
This UCLA/Stanford contest is one to watch Stanford goes unnoticed but this is a very good team IMO I’m talking top 4 nationally. David Shaw has done a masterful job with this team………I just hope Mark Davis is watching. UCLA is no joke!
November 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Def feel better than being on the pace to share certain record with Detroit lines of few years ago
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We won how many games with Glo starting last year?
We’d probably be the same team we are right now.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Isn’t Barr more of a 2-3 round prospect?
I’ve seen him rated as the 7th best DE.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Who is this Johny football guy you talking about ? Texas A&M QB?
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yeah
November 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Been keeping an eye on these QB ‘prospects’ and I’ve got to say I’m not very impressed.
Don’t like EJ too much. Athletic, live arm, but always comes up small against the better competition. Not a good decision maker. Just don’t see it happening for him at the next level
I think Geno Smith can play. But the more I watch him, the more he reminds me of Byron Leftwich. I like his accuracy and his perfect height. Athleticism leaves something to be desired but flashes some ability to ’slide’ in the pocket. Delivery needs work. Not a bad prospect at all, but not anywhere near Luck or RGIII.
JFB might be right…Aaron Murray is probably better than either EJ or Smith.
I’m not a Palmer guy. While I think he is having a good year, I do not trust him to get it done in the clutch. All those yards passing are nice, but if you’re going to fold when it counts most, they mean nothing.
You simply can not give away games by throwing picks like the one in Atl and the one against TB.
IMO, while CP is the best QB we’ve had around here in quite some time, he still leaves a lot to be desired.
Even with all the holes we’ve got to fill, I’d still grab a top notch QB prospect in Round 1, if one was available.
Problem is, I don’t think there’s anyone that fits the bill.
Think the Raids need to almost completely revamp the defense with new blood. There is absolutely no hope for improvement on that side of the ball with the current personnel. We need to replace at least 7 or 8 starters here. Just horrific. Will not flame Tarver as I think this unit is currently hopeless due to personnel.
I don’t think the cupboard is quite as barren on offense and expect that strides can be made once Krapp is dismissed.
If the Udder Failure is even thinking of bringing back Krapp in 2013, he needs to be fired too.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Def feel better than being on the pace to share certain record with Detroit lines of few years ago
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We won how many games with Glo starting last year?
We’d probably be the same team we are right now.
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Different situations , last year had best running game in the league, this year we worst the worst , last year faced one of the easiest schedule, this year is tough as f8k, last year we had better pass rush, this year we have less sacks than 5-6 individuals in this league
November 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
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Seymour ask yourself would you give upa 1st and 2nd for that? That is all I’m saying……he hasn’t lived up to that trade.
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I would DEFINITELY give up a lst and a 2nd for Palmer today. And I bet we could get AT LEAST that for him right now. He has been very very good. The Cardinals gave up Rodgers-Cromartie and a 2nd for Kevin Kolb who lost his job to Mike Vick. Robert Griffin III cost their No. 6 overall pick in 2012, their second-round pick in 2012, and their first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. That is three lst rounders and a second, including a very very high lst rounder. Shoot, Matt Cassell went for a very high second rounder and he blows.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Isn’t Barr more of a 2-3 round prospect?
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Maybe, he is a junior, so if he doesn’t get a first round grade, he would be wise to go back to school and work on that.
Tons of updside though. Only played defense for like 2 years now.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Aaron Murray is better than all the qb’s Mistic tout as future hall of famers lol
November 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
UCLA defense wetting the bed
November 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
If Johnny Football can grow 2 inches somehow, he will be a top 5 pick.
Pay no attention to Mistic saying he has “the weakest arm he has ever seen in college football” (seriously he said that; didn’t watch a CAl game the last 2 years apparently). SI reported last year as redshirt he wowed people by matching Tannehill in practice throw for throw.
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Remember he is only 19 years old. He’ll get bigger. That kid will be able to play on Sundays if he doesn’t get hurt.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Teddy Bridgewater is pretty good.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
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Seymour ask yourself would you give upa 1st and 2nd for that? That is all I’m saying……he hasn’t lived up to that trade.
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I would DEFINITELY give up a lst and a 2nd for Palmer today. And I bet we could get AT LEAST that for him right now. He has been very very good. The Cardinals gave up Rodgers-Cromartie and a 2nd for Kevin Kolb who lost his job to Mike Vick. Robert Griffin III cost their No. 6 overall pick in 2012, their second-round pick in 2012, and their first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. That is three lst rounders and a second, including a very very high lst rounder. Shoot, Matt Cassell went for a very high second rounder and he blows.
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Damn washington gave up so many picks just to move up 4 spots
November 24th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Maybe Dennis Allen will retire to become a Tibetan monk after this season. Then Reggie could hire David Shaw.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I would DEFINITELY give up a lst and a 2nd for Palmer today. And I bet we could get AT LEAST that for him right now. He has been very very good. The Cardinals gave up Rodgers-Cromartie and a 2nd for Kevin Kolb who lost his job to Mike Vick. Robert Griffin III cost their No. 6 overall pick in 2012, their second-round pick in 2012, and their first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. That is three lst rounders and a second, including a very very high lst rounder. Shoot, Matt Cassell went for a very high second rounder and he blows.
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This is the very reason a lot of mediocre QB’s get drafted so high………..teams are desparate. Look at hwta they give up for mere average QB play. QB’s get drafted sometimes an entire rnd higher than rated because teams are desparate.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I would DEFINITELY give up a lst and a 2nd for Palmer today. And I bet we could get AT LEAST that for him right now.
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No way. Nobody gives up those kind of picks for a 33 year old QB. Oh wait, Hue did.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Palmer just gets the flack for all the p8cks , he’s in a terrible situation , worst pass rush of all time, worst running game in the league, average receivers , horrible line , that costs team points in many ways and incompetent OC to go with all that, imagine if he had just above average support and a little bit better D
November 24th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Knowing what I know now there is no way I give up that for Palmer NO FREAKIN WAY!!
November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Priest you don’t know anything , you’re not grading him by taking everything into consideration
November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Props to Urban Myer and the Ohio State Buckeyes!!!!~
The man is a winner wherever he goes. Utah Florida and now Ohio State.
Extremely tough to motivate boys with nothing to play for but pride.
Nicely played sir!
November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Will Barr sure cleaned up that punter, lol.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
With hindsight, you’d still give up the same picks for Palmer????
And wouldn’t trade him if you could get a 1 AND a 2 right now????
WOW
November 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
HEY RG3 GIRLFRIEND HERE IS YOUR FUTURE = http://youtu.be/ehWJ-yopFaQ
November 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I would’ve rather tanked the season using Pryor to finsih it off that way I have some idea what he is. If he shows well I continue to biuld this defense and Oline if NOT I try to get RGIII with everything I’ve got……..in hindsight that IMO would be my decision because we may ahve been able to do what Washington did.
Palmer while he has been very good at times the ints’ are frustrating to say the least.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reggie would trade Palmer for a 1 and 2 in a heartbeat.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
you’re not grading him by taking everything into consideration
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Wow, you are just stuck, man.
Palmer is a pretty good QB. Grades out decent. Needs to cut OUT the end of game INTs. Best QB we’ve had around here in a while.
BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
The trade was made to make us a winning team. We are not a winning team this year and won’t be one next year for reasons OTHER than the QB position
We suck = bad trade.
Just like the Seymour trade!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I would’ve rather tanked the season using Pryor to finsih it off that way I have some idea what he is. If he shows well I continue to biuld this defense and Oline if NOT I try to get RGIII with everything I’ve got……..in hindsight that IMO would be my decision because we may ahve been able to do what Washington did.
Palmer while he has been very good at times the ints’ are frustrating to say the least.
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You are not taking everything into consideration like those int could be result of weak Oline , predictable play calling and un-reliable receivers who give away their routes
November 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Well if you would don’t want Palmer on this team , then good look going another 2 years without playoffs
November 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I guess I have to post stupid shvt and beat the same dead horse to get a conversation started huh?
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Props to Urban Myer and the Ohio State Buckeyes!!!!~
The man is a winner wherever he goes. Utah Florida and now Ohio State.
Extremely tough to motivate boys with nothing to play for but pride.
Nicely played sir!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
McFadden that was one of the dumbest things I have heard he just gets flack for all the picks duh. Quarterbacks aren’t supposed to throw picks especially not pick 6s and definitely not with the game on the line. On top of that for him to be the elite qb that you guys insist he is and to be worth the draft picks we gave up he should be able to win games with his arm and make the rest of the offense better. When you face a defense that is stacking the box and focusing on stopping the run an elite qb should be able beat that and win games Carson Palmer obviously can’t do that
November 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
This is the very reason a lot of mediocre QB’s get drafted so high………..teams are desparate. Look at hwta they give up for mere average QB play. QB’s get drafted sometimes an entire rnd higher than rated because teams are desparate.
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You are exactly right about teams being desperate. How badly do you think a KC or Jets or Jokesonville, or Tennessee would want a bona fide Pro Bowl caliber Q instantly? What do you think that would cost 2 fourth rounders and a fifth?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Look man I see everything you do and more. The condition of your team is not causing him to throw these late game ints’. Yes some of his ints are NOT his fault and he has a ton of pressure on him as I’ve stated a thousand times. But that does not cause these bonehead picks he’s throwing. If we had a great defense and running game these picks would still be there. Because they are bad reads on his part……….plain and simple.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
McFadden that was one of the dumbest things I have heard he just gets flack for all the picks duh. Quarterbacks aren’t supposed to throw picks especially not pick 6s and definitely not with the game on the line. On top of that for him to be the elite qb that you guys insist he is and to be worth the draft picks we gave up he should be able to win games with his arm and make the rest of the offense better. When you face a defense that is stacking the box and focusing on stopping the run an elite qb should be able beat that and win games Carson Palmer obviously can’t do that
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No body is stacking the box to stop the worst running game in the league, D’s are pinning their ears back against weak Oline and coming after Palmer on every play and then the receivers are just lame , they run lousy routes, and they give away the routes, but you don’t know that because you only look at final game stats and make your predictions and on top of that our D just s8cks, all the good O’s can score on them at will
November 24th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Palmer just gets the flack for all the p8cks…
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That’s bcz he’s the one throwing them.
Look, no one in his right mind is going to say CP is in a good situation.
Everyone knows that Krapp sucks, there’s no running game and ALL the rest of it.
We get it.
But again, take a look at the pick in ATL and the one against TB.
Game on the line, Raids in position to win – and Palmer gives it away. Palmer’s fault, and you simply can’t have that.
Inexcusable.
End of story.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Who are these people that say Palmer is elite?
I support my QB regardless but he is not elite.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Seymour, Personally I don’t give a damn what other teams would give up the more the merrier I’m saying what I would NOT do.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
WISHING HE WAS WHITE = http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/001/567/156/137985565_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75
November 24th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
you’re not grading him by taking everything into consideration
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Wow, you are just stuck, man.
Palmer is a pretty good QB. Grades out decent. Needs to cut OUT the end of game INTs. Best QB we’ve had around here in a while.
BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
The trade was made to make us a winning team. We are not a winning team this year and won’t be one next year for reasons OTHER than the QB position
We suck = bad trade.
Just like the Seymour trade!
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Sorry but this is kind of a silly post. Sure, you can say we traded lst rounders for both Seymour and Palmer and yes, I agree that those trades were made to get us into the hunt. But when your safety lets a guy run right past him untouched into the end zone for a back breaking score right before the half, or your middle linebacker takes the wrong gap, AGAIN, and the back scampers 55 yards UNTOUCHED, for six that breaks your back, that is Seymour and Palmers fault? Come on man.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Well if you would don’t want Palmer on this team , then good look going another 2 years without playoffs
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I’ve already said I’m fine with Palmer being here.
I think this team isn’t going to the playoff with this defense for AT LEAST 2 years. I agree with 99 that we need at least 7 new starters.
QB position won’t matter, as we see this year, so why not get some draft picks.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reggie would trade Palmer for a 1 and 2 in a heartbeat.
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Stick to talking about shoes and dresses. Its what you know best.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I am not going to stop talking about the good Hue Jackson did for these org. until they find someone that can do the job better! He was not a dream in the future like Reggie and Allen his accomplishments were for real.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Look man I see everything you do and more. The condition of your team is not causing him to throw these late game ints’. Yes some of his ints are NOT his fault and he has a ton of pressure on him as I’ve stated a thousand times. But that does not cause these bonehead picks he’s throwing. If we had a great defense and running game these picks would still be there. Because they are bad reads on his part……….plain and simple.
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Really how can you say int would still be there , if we had great D ,Palmer wouldn’t have to take that many chances and if we had good running game, D’s would just pin their ears back and come after Palmer but since we don’t have that luxury and our receivers never create seperation and always give away their routes, and on top of that Palmer can’t just go 3 n outs since he knows he got to keep slinging to keep up with the other team since our D wouldn’t even be able to sack a qb even if some high school Oline was protecting the qb
November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Palmer just gets the flack for all the p8cks…
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That’s bcz he’s the one throwing them.
Look, no one in his right mind is going to say CP is in a good situation.
Everyone knows that Krapp sucks, there’s no running game and ALL the rest of it.
We get it.
But again, take a look at the pick in ATL and the one against TB.
Game on the line, Raids in position to win – and Palmer gives it away. Palmer’s fault, and you simply can’t have that.
Inexcusable.
End of story.
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My man 99 on point!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I thought we were getting a franchise changing QB no question………..he has not demonstarted that kind of decision making nor at times accuracy. I wouls LOVE to say he has, he just hasn’t.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
“Actually, most pundits will think Palmer has played decently this year. Not good, not bad but decent. And I can agree. If you look at the statistics, that is also what you are going to see: Palmer about average in QB rating, about average in completion percentage, and actually in the top 10 in TD’s. Not good, but not terrible.
The thing that everyone seems to forget is the first rule of quarterbacking: the Q’s best friend is a strong run game. When you figure we have basically the worst or second worst run game in the entire league, then all of a sudden Palmer is miraculous. Which is more the case if you actually understand the game.”
That is some serious truth, some of us with a higher football IQ get it…the rest of you can keep dreaming that somehow a 3rd stringer would preform better.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Just bet a nice tip I got on USC
100.00 bucks
lol
Why not!?!?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Really how can you say int would still be there
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Been doing it for a few years now. Even before he got to Oakland.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
wouldn’t just pin their ears back and come after Palmer on every play**
November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
With hindsight, you’d still give up the same picks for Palmer????
And wouldn’t trade him if you could get a 1 AND a 2 right now????
WOW
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To win in this league, or to win at the high school or college level you HAVE TO HAVE, MUST HAVE, a marquee Q. Those guys don’t fall out the sky every five seconds. Those guys are very expensive to get. If we gave up ours, where do we find another one? Leinert? Pryor? Again, that is just silly.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Really how can you say int would still be there
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Been doing it for a few years now. Even before he got to Oakland.
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He said even if he had great D and good running game, tell me when did he ever had great D’s?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
“Actually, most pundits will think Palmer has played decently this year. Not good, not bad but decent. And I can agree. If you look at the statistics, that is also what you are going to see: Palmer about average in QB rating, about average in completion percentage, and actually in the top 10 in TD’s. Not good, but not terrible.
The thing that everyone seems to forget is the first rule of quarterbacking: the Q’s best friend is a strong run game. When you figure we have basically the worst or second worst run game in the entire league, then all of a sudden Palmer is miraculous. Which is more the case if you actually understand the game.”
That is some serious truth, some of us with a higher football IQ get it…the rest of you can keep dreaming that somehow a 3rd stringer would preform better.
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This post deserves an award!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
If your D s8cks and your Oline s8cks , your receivers s8ck , your OC s8cks , ofcourse you’re going to end up throwing int’s on that many attempts
November 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
2romes Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I am not going to stop talking about the good Hue Jackson did for these org. until they find someone that can do the job better! He was not a dream in the future like Reggie and Allen his accomplishments were for real.
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Cable turned the franchise around. Cable built momemtum. Jackson squandered it, and eventually completely lost it, which is where we are right now.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
“Actually, most pundits will think Palmer has played decently this year. Not good, not bad but decent. And I can agree. If you look at the statistics, that is also what you are going to see: Palmer about average in QB rating, about average in completion percentage, and actually in the top 10 in TD’s. Not good, but not terrible.
The thing that everyone seems to forget is the first rule of quarterbacking: the Q’s best friend is a strong run game. When you figure we have basically the worst or second worst run game in the entire league, then all of a sudden Palmer is miraculous. Which is more the case if you actually understand the game.”
That is some serious truth, some of us with a higher football IQ get it…the rest of you can keep dreaming that somehow a 3rd stringer would preform better.
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This post deserves an award!
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+ 40 points
November 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Big props to Urban and the Buckeyes
They deserve to play any other unbeaten team for the BCS
November 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Look man I see everything you do and more. The condition of YOUR team is not causing him to throw these late game ints’.
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see that? he slipped up. called it YOUR team. hard for a hater to disguise himself all the time. NOT a raider fan. EXPOSED!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Next year when we have 20 new faces on the team and a new offense coordinator and we get the ground game going again you will see how good the Palmer trade was and you will be stoked that he is here and we are rebuilding around him but to judge him after this season is just not fair considering everything.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The Max Wittek Era begins.
Fight On!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Next year when we have 20 new faces on the team and a new offense coordinator and we get the ground game going again you will see how good the Palmer trade was and you will be stoked that he is here and we are rebuilding around him but to judge him after this season is just not fair considering everything.
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Great mind, very sharp, and knowledgeable guy
November 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
that is Seymour and Palmers fault?
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Not at all.
But the thought process was that they were the missing pieces.
Turns out “a mising piece” wasn’t the answer.
I supported both trades when they happened. Great gambles, NEEDED gambles at the time. Didn’t work out like we intended.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Look man I see everything you do and more. The condition of YOUR team is not causing him to throw these late game ints’.
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see that? he slipped up. called it YOUR team. hard for a hater to disguise himself all the time. NOT a raider fan. EXPOSED!
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What a NUT this guy is…….lol
November 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
USC has some cheerleading talent.
Love those buxom blondes stretching those white sweaters.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Big props to Urban and the Buckeyes
They deserve to play any other unbeaten team for the BCS
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Plunk don’t know if you read my above post but that is exactly what I was saying.
Urban Meyer is a winner and is going to go down as one of the best college coaches to be in the game.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Say what you want about Urban Meyer, I think he has to be in the conversation for best football coach in America.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Seymour was a waste pick , and head scratcher, Palmer trade was understandable but he didn’t enjoy the same running game Jason Campbell enjoyed plus our D was there to f8ck up everything
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
So you’re saying on a team with as many problems as we have it would be smart to rebuild around a 33 yr old qb on the downside of his career making $15 mil a year
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
The Trojans are not reading the procession very well
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Say what you want about Urban Meyer, I think he has to be in the conversation for best football coach in America.
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How could he not be? All he does is win, everywhere he goes.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I don’t know why this concept is so difficult to grasp.
NO QB…Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or whomever WOULD NOT WIN with this team either.
Does anybody really think it doesn’t matter that we have one of the worst defenses (statistically) in the league in a long time.
Why do people choose to ignore that fact?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
One of the UCLA corners seem like a future NFL safety.
Their safety is Tim McDonald’s son (and the McDonald for USC’s brother).
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Did you see what Fresno St. did to Air Force today?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I supported both trades when they happened. Great gambles, NEEDED gambles at the time. Didn’t work out like we intended.
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These guys want to believe they see something we don’t…………sure have another drink!
I jumped with joy at the Palmer trade and I’m getting frustrated now that I feel he leaves something to be desired. I don’t wnat to see a bad pick ue to his decision making for the next 2 -3 weeks because I’m getting tired of them.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Three different programs at which he has undefeated seasons within the last ten years? Pretty remarkable.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
99 Those are not cheerleaders
they are song girls and believe it or not my little sis was one for two years back in the late 70’s
November 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Chris NY
The guy has the “It Factor”
So far away from our DA it factor LMAO it is not even close;
The man is a motivator and knows how to get the most out of what he has.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Maybe the coach should put a bib on him like what harbaugh did with Alex Smith to get him to stop throwing up on himself.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
So you’re saying on a team with as many problems as we have it would be smart to rebuild around a 33 yr old qb on the downside of his career making $15 mil a year
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Palmer can go atleast 4 more years and we can draft some guy to groom behind him , all you need to do is give Palmer a few more better players on his side and just get the D to perform average/above average and we could be talking about Playoffs at this next year instead of draft, if we trade him away for draft picks, we’re talking about draft again at this time next year
November 24th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Jim
your posted reminded me to congratulate him
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
that is Seymour and Palmers fault?
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Not at all.
But the thought process was that they were the missing pieces.
Turns out “a mising piece” wasn’t the answer.
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I never thought they were the missing pieces. I thought EXACTLY what the org thought, which was if players like that become available, you get them. No questions asked. Look at Des Bryant. He has become a good solid player really out of nowhere. How much credit does Rich Seymour get in HIS development. These are the things you guys don’t acknowledge. How much does Carson Palmer help DHB, Moore and Myers? How much is that worth? Can Pryor go in there and develop WR’s at this level?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
That’s a weird statement. Cable and Hue’s Record were tha same.
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
2romes Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I am not going to stop talking about the good Hue Jackson did for these org. until they find someone that can do the job better! He was not a dream in the future like Reggie and Allen his accomplishments were for real.
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Cable turned the franchise around. Cable built momemtum. Jackson squandered it, and eventually completely lost it, which is where we are right now.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I don’t know why this concept is so difficult to grasp.
NO QB…Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or whomever WOULD NOT WIN with this team either.
Does anybody really think it doesn’t matter that we have one of the worst defenses (statistically) in the league in a long time.
Why do people choose to ignore that fact?
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1st, You don’t know that.
2nd The Defense was just as bad last year.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I know for a fact Peyton manning could win with this team but if you admit that no qb could win with this team what is the point of keeping Palmer if he’s so good. It was a failed trade and we should get what we can for him and use it to rebuild
November 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
If McClain would have just done what Te’O did on that run (hit the FB never disengage while the RB blows right past you) people would want to cut him at halftime.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Funny how the “bad defense card” works for DA, but doesn’t work for Hue. Not really.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Urban’s daughter is kinda hot too.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I get frustrated at some of Palmer’s ints as much as you guys but hard to really tell who’s at fault , our receivers rarely if ever create seperation from CB’s, and they constantly f8k up their routes and give them away i wouldn’t go the distance of Mistic to bash Palmer for all his ints
November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
So you’re saying on a team with as many problems as we have it would be smart to rebuild around a 33 yr old qb on the downside of his career making $15 mil a year
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Palmer is a two time pro bowler and has had a couple of great seasons and this yr. his passer rating is above his career average.
At 32 (he turns 33 in December) he is the same age as Romo and Eli. Are those guys on the downside of their career? He is 3 yr’s younger than Peyton and almost 3 yr’s younger than Brady. Are those huys “done”?
His 11 int’s do not even rank him anywhere near the top like some like to assert, but his passing yardage does.
Do we have all pro receivers? He has had THIRTEEN td passes DROPPED this yr.
It’s a fair question in a rebuild scenario whether you want a guy at 32/33 to build long term.
Let’s just consider all the facts before jumping to get rid of him.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I supported both trades when they happened. Great gambles, NEEDED gambles at the time. Didn’t work out like we intended.
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These guys want to believe they see something we don’t…………sure have another drink!
I jumped with joy at the Palmer trade and I’m getting frustrated now that I feel he leaves something to be desired. I don’t wnat to see a bad pick ue to his decision making for the next 2 -3 weeks because I’m getting tired of them.
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If you are tired of the “bad pick” then Favre multiple picks in the NFC Championship Games or Peytons pick that ended the Super Bowl, you probably wouldn’t like those players either.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Palmer is a loser.
A loser is a loser.
Bengals 45 Raiders 27
Just Win Baby.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Catch the ball DHB!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
The Trojans are not reading the procession very well
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LMAO!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I don’t know why this concept is so difficult to grasp.
NO QB…Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or whomever WOULD NOT WIN with this team either.
Does anybody really think it doesn’t matter that we have one of the worst defenses (statistically) in the league in a long time.
Why do people choose to ignore that fact?
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1st, You don’t know that.
2nd The Defense was just as bad last year.
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Last years D had 35+ sacks , this year we will be lucky to get 20 sacks, last year we had the best running game, this year we have the worst
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
have a good one guys…
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Lane should have kept pounding the rock but that new QB has a great arm. WR ran right under it, put it on his chest
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Palmer is a two time pro bowler and has had a couple of great seasons and this yr. his passer rating is above his career average.
At 32 (he turns 33 in December) he is the same age as Romo and Eli. Are those guys on the downside of their career? He is 3 yr’s younger than Peyton and almost 3 yr’s younger than Brady. Are those huys “done”?
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Or the other point is RGIII is NOT on a lifetime contract in DC. He could play five years, be franchised twice, and then move on. If he is healthy. In other words we are going to get the same mileage out of a brand new player “theoretically”.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Palmer might get a little more slack if he had some playoff wins and SB wins under his belt like those 2.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
If McClain would have just done what Te’O did on that run (hit the FB never disengage while the RB blows right past you) people would want to cut him at halftime.
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If Te’O played like Slo does all the time he’d go undrafted.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.
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Not with our team we wouldn’t. Sorry.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I know for a fact Peyton manning could win with this team but if you admit that no qb could win with this team what is the point of keeping Palmer if he’s so good. It was a failed trade and we should get what we can for him and use it to rebuild
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I don’t believe Peyton would have won any more games than Palmer has this yr. We disagree and that’s alright.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I couldn’t let you and jhill have all the fun.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.
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Yes, we would!!!!
Those guys are chess players and know how to read and beat defenses.
Brady is doing it with a couple of TEs, lol
Manning has a 2nd yr wideouts and a couple of stiffs
November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?
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Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
One can also make an argument that we might have one of the worst receiving corps in the league
November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
The difference between Palmer and Eli is that Eli has been getting better since earlier in his career and Palmer has gotten worse. Palmers best years are behind him he was a pro bowler in 2005 and back then he was one of the best QBs in the league but since he got hurt he hasn’t been near that level.
The problem with his picks are that he throws them at the worst times the best QBs put the team on their back when the game is on the line and make their best decisions and throws at that time I mean even Tebow played his best during crunch time but Palmer seems like the opposite. He always throws picks and especially pick 6s when the game is on the line
November 24th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
It’s “progressions” not “processions” btw
QB reads
November 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I think this yr’s defense is actually worse than last yr’s.
If you look at the last 3 games: 42 pt’s, 55 pt’s, and 38…(should have been more but Vitt showed mercy…with his 2nd string offense no less) this defense where it sits right now is historically bad.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.
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Funny, just last year you were licking Al Davis’ boots. Wow.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Brady and Manning still have better support and better OC than Raiders and way better D’s , you can disagree with that all you want but it’s a fact
November 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
2nd most penalized team in college football, USC. Somethings never change, Lame Kiffin.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
IMaster Po is spanking grasshopper
November 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Peyton would take us to the playoffs no doubt but he is the best qb in the league and you can’t just get a guy like that. There is a reason Indy was a Super Bowl favorite with him every year and without him the worst teaming the league
November 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I know for a fact Peyton manning could win with this team but if you admit that no qb could win with this team what is the point of keeping Palmer if he’s so good. It was a failed trade and we should get what we can for him and use it to rebuild
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I don’t believe Peyton would have won any more games than Palmer has this yr. We disagree and that’s alright.
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I disagree 1,000% I think Payton Manning would’ve won at least 3 more games with this very same team. Because that is what great players do make everyone around them better………I would be our record would be what Denvers is right now. In the 4th qrtr Payton is money………..period
November 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
The difference between Palmer and Eli is that Eli has been getting better since earlier in his career and Palmer has gotten worse. Palmers best years are behind him he was a pro bowler in 2005 and back then he was one of the best QBs in the league but since he got hurt he hasn’t been near that level.
The problem with his picks are that he throws them at the worst times the best QBs put the team on their back when the game is on the line and make their best decisions and throws at that time I mean even Tebow played his best during crunch time but Palmer seems like the opposite. He always throws picks and especially pick 6s when the game is on the line
— Palmer throws to stupid wide receivers, Eli Got one of the best O line and V CRUZ AND NICKS AND others to throw to, and he got great D on his side
November 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?
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Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.
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Probably the most telling fact to consider.
Who can argue that point?
Yes, Palmer has made some un-timely int’s. I don’t like it either, but he’s also constantly in a position where he has to be PERFECT or else we lose.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.
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Yes, we would!!!!
Those guys are chess players and know how to read and beat defenses.
Brady is doing it with a couple of TEs, lol
Manning has a 2nd yr wideouts and a couple of stiffs
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Denver has the overall number four defense in the league. New Orleans has All Pro Jimmy Graham, Mark Ingram, solid receivers and two All Pro’s on their Oline. You have Bellichik as coach in NE, and GB is 2nd or 3rd in the league in sacks. We are last. Jesus you guys, you can’t compare these teams to us. We are NOT in their league.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Peyton would take us to the playoffs no doubt but he is the best qb in the league and you can’t just get a guy like that. There is a reason Indy was a Super Bowl favorite with him every year and without him the worst teaming the league
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Peyton had the chance of coming to a great organization , who freaking kept the same OC for all his years , who drafted Marvin Harrison (future HOF) Reggie Wayne ( could be considered for HOF TOO) also the TE had wasn’t that bad either, now he plays for a team that won 8 games with Tim Freakin Tebow last year year, because that D is legit, V Miller have like 3 more sacks than the entire Raiders D, Dumerville isn’t that far behind who got like 9 sacks
November 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Denver has the overall number four defense in the league. New Orleans has All Pro Jimmy Graham, Mark Ingram, solid receivers and two All Pro’s on their Oline. You have Bellichik as coach in NE, and GB is 2nd or 3rd in the league in sacks. We are last. Jesus you guys, you can’t compare these teams to us. We are NOT in their league.
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Sorry let me rephrase my answer; it is all Seymour and Palmers fault. There, do you guys feel better.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I think one of the reasons our penalties are down this yr. is on defense, our d backs don’t even get close enuff to the receivers for them to throw a flag.
There IS more discipline on the o-line with less false starts, but at the end of the day who really gives a red rats rip when we’re getting hammered every freaking week?
November 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
My point is Palmer isn’t a great qb so there is no point in keeping him on a team with so many holes because he doesn’t make this team any better than it would be without him. There is no way we fill all those holes while Palmer is still here as a serviceable qb especially not with him getting paid as much as he is.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
No point in discussing about Palmer with haters , they are all set with their views about him
November 24th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
So you’re saying on a team with as many problems as we have it would be smart to rebuild around a 33 yr old qb on the downside of his career making $15 mil a year
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Palmer is a two time pro bowler and has had a couple of great seasons and this yr. his passer rating is above his career average.
At 32 (he turns 33 in December) he is the same age as Romo and Eli. Are those guys on the downside of their career? He is 3 yr’s younger than Peyton and almost 3 yr’s younger than Brady. Are those huys “done”?
His 11 int’s do not even rank him anywhere near the top like some like to assert, but his passing yardage does.
Do we have all pro receivers? He has had THIRTEEN td passes DROPPED this yr.
It’s a fair question in a rebuild scenario whether you want a guy at 32/33 to build long term.
Let’s just consider all the facts before jumping to get rid of him.”
Nice post!!
November 24th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?
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Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.
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Probably the most telling fact to consider.
Who can argue that point?
Yes, Palmer has made some un-timely int’s. I don’t like it either, but he’s also constantly in a position where he has to be PERFECT or else we lose.
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Thank you! What you guys are seeing but most are not comprehending is Palmer is one of a handful of guys in this league that can put a team on his back and carry that team. THAT’S what has been happening this season. Peyton, Brady, Eli, Rogers, Ryan, and Palmer are basically the only guys that can do that. And we are seeing it.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
GG
You better tell that to Friar drinksalot
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
One thing I notice about Manuel he needs to speed up hs procession he comes off the primary to slow.
November 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
We are also hig in 3 and outs and 3rd down conversion. And that is NOT all on the players around him he has been responsible for a lot of that. I never bring it up because he has to carry the bulk of the O but to absolve Palmer completely is asinine.
Early in the season he had wide open rec’s for TD’s and flat missed them. Once DMC had an easy TD but he threw it too late. And has missed others in teh endzone if you go back game by game and play by play expecially late in games at times Palmer is frustrating to watch.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I think saying we have been one of the worst org’s in all of sports is a little extreme, but suffice to say it has not been a good situation for ANY qb to be in.
You guys still seem to ignore our horrific defense.
The presence of a Peyton Manning would make the defense better? I suppose keeping them off the field more is the idea? Maybe. It’s a fair assertion, but i think you guys are downplaying just how horrible our defense is right now.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Again no one is perfect, I would take Palmer over 70% of the QB’s in this league but to excuse him of any and all responsibility is freakin crazy!
He himself would admit to that privately……
November 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Draft max wittick? dude is bad
November 24th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
The next coach at USC has a hell of a qb
November 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Anthony Barr, UCLA.
I am going to throw it out there, but he will be a better pro than Jarvis Jones.
Bigger and faster.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Barr is tall and skinny. He needs to add a lot of weight.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
While it is true there were 2 games this year that Palmers ints cost us a chance to win them,it can also be said if it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t have even been in those games without him.Can you honestly say we might have been close,let alone win those games if Boller,JC,the great Gradkowski,or one of the other bums we’ve had the last 5-10 years was the QB?
November 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Peyton played with the worst defense in the league for most of his years in Indy and a horrible running game. He went to the Super Bowl with Jim Caldwell as his head coach and his Oc doesn’t really matter because he eventually became basically his own OC. He made anybody catching the ball look great and he made his receivers better players. He made Blair White look like a pro bowler and his oline sucked but he was so good they didn’t give up that many sacks. Pierre Garçon wouldn’t be what he is right now if it wasn’t for Peyton and his defense ranks so high because he puts his team in such a big lead that other offenses have to become one dimensional and throw to try and catch up and the defense knows what’s coming and they don’t have to worry about the run. Denver’s defense isn’t actually that good they gave up like 28 points to SD in the first half and they were getting blown out by the falcons until Peyton started to lead a comeback. They give up points to good teams that’s why they lost to the pats and texans but Peyton is so good it usually doesn’t matter
November 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Again no one is perfect, I would take Palmer over 70% of the QB’s in this league but to excuse him of any and all responsibility is freakin crazy!
He himself would admit to that privately……
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I think that is a very fair assessment.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
*can anyone…….
November 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Stanford is the most underrated team in the BCS I would love to see them get another crack at ND with this QB they have now……probably wont happen but I’m telling ya’ Stanford is no joke that defense they have is very underrated.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
If Palmer put the team on his back we would have more than three wins
November 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
He himself would admit to that privately……
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Actually he has admitted that publicly.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
There was a monte kiffin sighting at the stadium but nobody has seen his defense
November 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
While it is true there were 2 games this year that Palmers ints cost us a chance to win them,it can also be said if it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t have even been in those games without him.Can you honestly say we might have been close,let alone win those games if Boller,JC,the great Gradkowski,or one of the other bums we’ve had the last 5-10 years was the QB?
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Lefty12, True but we didn’t give up a 1st and 2nd for those guys so if you’re saying we’d have the same outcome I’d prefer to keep those picks.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
So just because we gave up 1st and 2nd for Palmer and he hasn’t led this horrible team to playoffs so we should just get rid of him?>
November 24th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
It’s gonna be an awkward Christmas in the kiffin family.
Hey dad it’s not working out I’m going to have to let you go.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
The point of trading for Palmer was to get to the playoffs and its not working out so the trade was a failure. We need to rebuild and keeping Palmer isn’t going to do anything to help us in the next few years
November 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
While the final results may have been the same,we wouldn’t have even been competitive without him.I enjoyed both of those games because they were good competitive football games won by the better team.That is what it is all about.I won’t argue about the trade because everyone has their own opinion,but being in competitive games-win or lose-is better than games like the last 3 weeks which can’t be blamed on our QB.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
“Peyton played with the worst defense in the league for most of his years in Indy and a horrible running game. He went to the Super Bowl with Jim Caldwell as his head coach and his Oc doesn’t really matter because he eventually became basically his own OC. He made anybody catching the ball look great and he made his receivers better players.”
..OK yes that’s all true and I enjoy and respect Manning much as the next NFL fan BUT PEYTON MANNING’S are not growing on trees!
There has only been one in my lifetime…..not sure what your getting at here but if QB’s like Manning grew on trees you would have a legitimate complaint but they don’t so you should be happy to have a QB like Palmer
November 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
where am i?
November 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
We certainly would have been in the ATL game. The defense was controlling that game.
And we didn’t trade 2 high first rd picks for Glo or Gardowski.
Why is such an issue for some guys to simply move Pryor to #2?
Play Pryor IF we are getting blown out???
November 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Plunkdiction time
Lana will join his dad in the unenjoyment line and Max Whittik will be a #1 pick when he comes out
November 24th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Wittek looks good.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Again no one is perfect, I would take Palmer over 70% of the QB’s in this league but to excuse him of any and all responsibility is freakin crazy!
He himself would admit to that privately……
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I think that is a very fair assessment.
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My goodness, that is all most of us have been saying ALL THIS TIME.
That and to he!! with Matt Lienart as a #2 QB!
November 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reggie would trade Palmer for a 1 and 2 in a heartbeat.
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Stick to talking about shoes and dresses. Its what you know best.
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Another lame joke from Seymour Bush. You need to take this show on the rode. Maybe you could open for Beeech.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Silverandblack666 I know and i said that earlier but somebody was saying we would win the same amount of games with Peyton and he wouldn’t fix any of the problems on this team and I was just explaining why he would put this team in the playoffs
November 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I haven’t read 1 comment regarding Pryor this evening,so what the he!! are you talking about.But it isn’t the people on here that have an issue with making him #2,it seems to be the coaches.He has been on the team for almost 2 years now and is still #3 and as far as we know nobody on here has the power to make him #2.So why are you trying to make that an issue.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reggie would trade Palmer for a 1 and 2 in a heartbeat.
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Stick to talking about shoes and dresses. Its what you know best.
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Another lame joke from Seymour Bush.
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Why would you possibly think that was a joke?
November 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Again no one is perfect, I would take Palmer over 70% of the QB’s in this league but to excuse him of any and all responsibility is freakin crazy!
He himself would admit to that privately……
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I think that is a very fair assessment.
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My goodness, that is all most of us have been saying ALL THIS TIME.
That and to he!! with Matt Lienart as a #2 QB!
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Jhill I would’ve said it a long time ago if it would saved all this crap………..lol
November 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
1376,
I agree with that idea JHill.
If we are already eliminated in a week or two, I would be curious to see what Pryor can do in a real game.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Notre Dame / USC = good game
UCLA / Stanford = good game
Bengal / Raiders = good game
Get yo game on!
November 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reggie would trade Palmer for a 1 and 2 in a heartbeat.
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Stick to talking about shoes and dresses. Its what you know best.
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Another lame joke from Seymour Bush.
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Why would you possibly think that was a joke?
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Ok, even your insults are lame.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Again no one is perfect, I would take Palmer over 70% of the QB’s in this league but to excuse him of any and all responsibility is freakin crazy!
He himself would admit to that privately……
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I think that is a very fair assessment.
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My goodness, that is all most of us have been saying ALL THIS TIME.
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I appreciate the clarification. Now JHill you may have not been the one saying this, but what I have been reading for weeks is: “our coaching staff was not broken, why did we get rid of Hue?” and “Our offense was not broken, why did we change?” and now “Our Q is our best player on offense bench him.” Just did not make sense to me.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Honestly the biggest problem on this team is that we have an incompetent coaching staff that doesn’t know how to put players in a position to succeed. And honestly the Palmer debate doesn’t even matter because he’s going to be back next year anyway
November 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Honestly the biggest problem on this team is that we have an incompetent coaching staff that doesn’t know how to put players in a position to succeed. And honestly the Palmer debate doesn’t even matter because he’s going to be back next year anyway
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Right On! Our coaches = wanna bes’. Willie Shaw II for HC. Start the campaign now. Loud enough so Reg/Mark can hear it. DA too!
November 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I think the ABP/Bush exchanges are funny. =D
November 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Again no one is perfect, I would take Palmer over 70% of the QB’s in this league but to excuse him of any and all responsibility is freakin crazy!
He himself would admit to that privately……
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He himself has admitted to that publicly too……
November 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Thank you! What you guys are seeing but most are not comprehending is Palmer is one of a handful of guys in this league that can put a team on his back and carry that team. THAT’S what has been happening this season. Peyton, Brady, Eli, Rogers, Ryan, and Palmer are basically the only guys that can do that. And we are seeing it.
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Then why are we 3-7?
November 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
LOL at the Kiffin ice the FG play STILL not working.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I don’t know if anyone said this before but No way we beat pittsburg with Jason Cambell, we might have even lost to the Jagwires.
Nice Guy-Better than Jamarcus, but no “game-winner”, just a good “game-manager” (when he’s not throwing to the elusive Vince Wilfork, or wowing with his sliding ability)
November 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
So just because we gave up 1st and 2nd for Palmer and he hasn’t led this horrible team to playoffs so we should just get rid of him?>
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No.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
We are 3-7 because we have no running game and our defense is horrendous and so is our special teams. Simple as that.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I didn’t say any of your first 2 statements.
But I am for putting Palmer on the shelf, so to speak. If we are getting blown out, I see no need to keep trotting him out there to take a beating.
Save Palmer for next year instead of risking injury.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Thank you! What you guys are seeing but most are not comprehending is Palmer is one of a handful of guys in this league that can put a team on his back and carry that team. THAT’S what has been happening this season. Peyton, Brady, Eli, Rogers, Ryan, and Palmer are basically the only guys that can do that. And we are seeing it.
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Then why are we 3-7?
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Hey KK, how’s it goin? No QB could carry this team. The load of the coaching staff is too much for any one man, let alone a player, to carry this team. We need coaches who know how to utilize the players we got. Not implement a scheme counter-productive to the type of players we got. It makes absolutely no sense in the world. None. Zero balls, zero brains.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
We are 3-7 because we have no running game and our defense is horrendous and so is our special teams. Simple as that.
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Oh, but I thought Palmer could carry a team?
November 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Hey KK, how’s it goin? No QB could carry this team. The load of the coaching staff is too much for any one man, let alone a player, to carry this team. We need coaches who know how to utilize the players we got. Not implement a scheme counter-productive to the type of players we got. It makes absolutely no sense in the world. None. Zero balls, zero brains.
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Agreed.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
J Hill Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I didn’t say any of your first 2 statements.
But I am for putting Palmer on the shelf, so to speak. If we are getting blown out, I see no need to keep trotting him out there to take a beating.
Save Palmer for next year instead of risking injury.
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I have called for the same. Let Leinart and Pryor get some snaps. Save Palmer for next year and let him coach up TP as much as possible.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
These QB duels in the Pac12 are going to be fun to watch over the next 4 years or so. Stanford/Hogan, UCLA/hundley, Ore/Mariota , Arizona/Shott, with more to come this conf. is LOADED with young QB’s Wash and Or St as well.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I didn’t say that but without Palmer, the losses are much worse.
November 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Cal Berk. better get one because it’s gonna be ugly if they can’t they wont be able to compete at all.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Legacy game for Palmer? No no no… HueJax maybe. If the Bengals can sodomize the Raiders, I suppose Hue can get the last grin. After all, Raiders have been sodomized quite a bit lately. Mercy. Oh have mercy.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Cal Berk. better get one because it’s gonna be ugly if they can’t they wont be able to compete at all.
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Cal has one-the kid from Danville.I believe his name is Kline.I believe he was like the 4th rated QB in the country coming out of HS.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
In order to decide which direction to go with the QB situation short and long term I think WE MUST get a look at Pryor at some point.
If we don’t, then we will never know what he could have been…if anything.
He sucks? Fine. Throw him out there and have your point proved.
You can’t proceed to start looking at the next young QB to lead the team without at least crossing Pryor off the list.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Good Ol’ Lance Kiffin what putts this guy is. How big of a scumbag do you hav eto be to throw your own father under the bus on Nationwide TV. As the half ended they asked him what they have to do better; he says we have to get off the field on 3rd down it’s killing us………..lol
Boy! talk about clessless, dear old Dad will get his pink slip post haste.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
DA and knapp can’t coach, and we expect the team to do better? We are lucky to be 3-7. Players need to rally around Hue. Send a message to Reggie and DA. and Mark.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Priest, are you typing on a phone, or is your grammar that bad?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Cal needs a top flight coach.I read Peterson from Boise could possibly be interested.That would be sweet.Hue and Herm Edwards are also being mentioned along with a couple of others.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
“Honestly the biggest problem on this team is that we have an incompetent coaching staff that doesn’t know how to put players in a position to succeed. And honestly the Palmer debate doesn’t even matter because he’s going to be back next year anyway”
Good post
November 24th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Manti! Wow.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Los Loco-in case you haven’t heard,Hue Jackson doesn’t work for the Raiders any longer.Why the heck would they rally around him?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Yeah cal has zach Kline he redshirted this year hopefully he’s better than the last 4 star qb
November 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Meanwhile, The Lakers are up 30.
Might be ready for Xmas after all.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Hue would fit very well in Berkeley. That offense would be incredible. So would Peterson he would finally be able to recruit top teir athletes.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Yeah cal has zach Kline he redshirted this year hopefully he’s better than the last 4 star qb
==========================He couldn’t be much worse than the last 2 or 3 QBs Cal has had.Maynard,Reilly,Abyob(?)-3 duds.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Mansion
November 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
The W’s are playing the T-wolves tonight not Denver so you wont see the refs make it a point for Curry & Barnes to foul out with BS calls.
Blatant fix last night!
November 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Hue would fit very well in Berkeley. That offense would be incredible. So would Peterson he would finally be able to recruit top teir athletes.
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Hue or Peterson would be fantastic.I think college just might be where Hue could really make his mark.He’d have total control and I believe he would be a great recruiter.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
But the scary thing is he could be worse but fingers crossed dont want to jinx him before he even plays
November 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Oh my bad you guys are talking Raider football…
Reggie’s record as GM 3-7.
Go Raiders!
KK did I get Reggies record correct? Just like you did AL…..fair & balanced right?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
He couldn’t be any worse than Maynard has been the last couple of years could he?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Not a peep from any single leader in the afr amer community. I guess none of these were white on black crime so no biggie…
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OAKLAND — Eight shootings across the city in a 24-hour period have left two dead and seven others wounded, police said.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
That Nix is pretty good
November 24th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Oh my bad you guys are talking Raider football…
Reggie’s record as GM 3-7.
Go Raiders!
KK did I get Reggies record correct? Just like you did AL…..fair & balanced right?
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Dumbass. Lol.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
KK the clown, when your only comeback is “Dumbass” why do you even bother?
Rhetorical question…
November 24th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
KK the clown, when your only comeback is “Dumbass” why do you even bother?
Rhetorical question…
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That’s the only one I need for a dumbass like you. Lol.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
KK what you be doing right now if your white wife hadn’t left you 15 yrs ago ?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
We had a running game vs Saints. That Saints game showed our defense is the #1 problem, OL #2.
Hence: rebuild this team from the lines out, both sides of the ball, that includes a monster zero technique NT and move to a 3-4. Gap eating NT creates more opportunities for the DEs and LBs to get QB sacks/hurries.
OL Priorities: marquee LT (veldheer to RT), or marquee Center and draft a RT and OGs in the latter rounds (Veldheer stays LT).
Defensive Priorities: marquee NT, we already have many suitable 3-4 DEs (kelly, seymour, bryant, houston), and LB x2 or x4.
With a killer front 7, we can ‘make-do’ at FS, SS, and CB with what we have already and adding in FA vets, or late round and UDFA prospects.
A killer front 7 can override/protect/conceal a DB weakness. But not vice versa.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
KK the clown, when your only comeback is “Dumbass” why do you even bother?
Rhetorical question…
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That’s the only one I need for a dumbass like you. Lol.
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KoolKell must have graduated from Seymour Bush’s School of Trash Talking.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
KK,
You notice I never call you a dumbass? It’s just redundant when everybody here knows you’re a horses a$$ it would just be a waste of my time to point out the obvious.
Get it?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
To get more picks…
Trade who you can that’s on contract, and get whatever you can for those not particularly garnering much trade interest.
But there should be enough interest in the following…
Palmer (to Jets/Cardinals) for a 1st or conditional 2nd + mid/late round pick(s)
McFadden (to Cowboys) for a conditional 2nd + late rounders if possible
Shaughnessy for a mid-rounder
Branch for a conditional 3rd
Seymour and Kelly for whatever you can get, late rounders
November 24th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I agree with Kell. Palmer can’t “carry a team”
in fact he deserves as much blame as anybody else that we’re 3-7. turnovers lead to losses and the lack of chemistry with DMo17 the past few weeks is mind boggling
think egghead Peyton Manning would allow that crap to happen?
Palmer has a great arm and leadership skills. Problem is his decision making. He will always put up big TD and passing yard totals. Problem is he doesn’t win too many games and he gives the ball to the other team WAY too much for my liking.
However, if Palmer was black Kell would talk him up like a 5-time Super Bowl champ
November 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
KK what you be doing right now if your white wife hadn’t left you 15 yrs ago ?
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She’s right here watching a John Wayne movie with me. Dumbass.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
However, if Palmer was black Kell would talk him up like a 5-time Super Bowl champ
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Why do you presume to speak for me, RR? Do I put words into your mouth?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Lol good one!
The imagination you can incur after a half a bottle of scotch.
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KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
She’s right here watching a John Wayne movie with me. Dumbass.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Lol good one!
The imagination you can incur after a half a bottle of scotch.
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You should know, dumbass.
November 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Good lord!
Ladies, it’s Saturday night. Go out and get yourselves whatever it is you get yourselves.
Hey wait, Palmer isn’t black?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Let me get this straight Munster. You and the miss’s cuddle up on your foldout lawn chair in the living room watching your 1947 black & white TV with rabbit ears watching John Wayne and you say “hey wait a minute sweety Im just going to post “Dumbass” on this blog, brb
Is that how it goes down?
November 24th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Yep
November 24th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
lmao @ Yep
November 24th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Glad to make you happy BrownStains.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
ook ook monkey chasing leather watermelon ook ook = get a life
November 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Terrible play calling at the goal line, Kiffin.
SMH
November 24th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I’m sorry fellas but the USC QB cost them the game he just can’t accurately place the ball to be caught. I’ve watched him and given him the benefit of the doubt but that last passin the dirt hurt bigtime.
I hate ND and was pulling for ol’Lance to win but man the kid needs reps bad……….period
November 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Jhill if the kid puts the ball up correctly for MLee on the fade it’s 6, then he throws it too low on playaction the ec’r was wide open no need to pull the string. He’ll learn and be great eventually just not today.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
That pass should have been caught, Priest.
Hit the FB a little low, but both hands were on the ball.
Pretty sorry play calling at the end running right into that packed middle. That PA pass should have been run on 1st down.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
He’s just not ready yet….
November 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Yeah it could have been caught not should have. He made an eassy throw into a hard catch.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Harrison Barnes is legit folks he may be the best DP the W’s have made since Rick Barry. The kid just sees the game better than most his atleticism is ridiculous and what a playmaker.
The W’s 1,2 & 3 spots are top notch. Even the 4 spot is fo-real if they can get this walking injury(Bogut) on the court this team looks primed for the playoffs. Not only that they are deeper than usual.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
We need Manti!
November 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Lets just draft Manti, Nix and Golic.
=)
November 24th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
HB is no joke folks I’m tellin’ ya’ the kid the freakin sky is the limit with him, he has star written all over him.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Priest-the kid is a freshman and that was his 1st start.He did pretty good.That should have been a TD.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Now that Oregon has fuggged up their chance at a National Title chance yet again.
I’d rather see ND vs BAMA or Georiga instead of a str8 SEC title game.
BTW Manti Te’o is going top 3.. but thats ok.. hopefully Jarvis Jones slips to us.. or Demantre Moore
November 24th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Kiffin must have borrowed that Red Zone offense from Knapp.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I just honestly want to ask this question from every Raider fan , would Raiders be better with or without Palmer next year, why or why not?
November 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
KIFFIN folks.. dont forget he tied his coaching experience with KNAPP (handpicked) just like Dennis Allen LOL
November 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I just honestly want to ask this question from every Raider fan , would Raiders be better with or without Palmer next year, why or why not?
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Without Palmer – worse next year but better in the long run
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Kiffin should pay me the 100 bucks I bet on them. lol Opportunities were there…Lane KnappKin
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Harrison Barnes is legit folks he may be the best DP the W’s have made since Rick Barry. The kid just sees the game better than most his atleticism is ridiculous and what a playmaker.
The W’s 1,2 & 3 spots are top notch. Even the 4 spot is fo-real if they can get this walking injury(Bogut) on the court this team looks primed for the playoffs. Not only that they are deeper than usual.
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I’m so damn excited I had to post this again…..Barnes is without ? one of the top picks in W’s history IMHO. The kid shots 3’s like it’s an afterthought just pure. Klay T. has the sweetest shot in the NBA and Curry is second to his. What a tri-fecta this is hands down the most excited I’ve been for this team since Rick came back and we won it all.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I just honestly want to ask this question from every Raider fan , would Raiders be better with or without Palmer next year, why or why not?
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Without Palmer – worse next year but better in the long run
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Explain how would they be better in long run?
November 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Priest-the kid is a freshman and that was his 1st start.He did pretty good.That should have been a TD.
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Lefty12, No don’t get it twisted I have very high hopes for the young man, I just hate ND and wanted to thwart their chances at a BCS championship. Their defense can win it for them it’s that good.
Not worried about Wittek at all, bright future no ?.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Anybody got any leads on what Reggies PC is gonna be? Perhaps he fire’s a coach or too if we lose on Sunday. If we do indeed lose, I say either knapp or DA is shown the door. Most likely knapp tho. Took a promising offense and beat it into the ground. Trashed it like hot garbage.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I just honestly want to ask this question from every Raider fan , would Raiders be better with or without Palmer next year, why or why not?
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Without Palmer – worse next year but better in the long run
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Explain how would they be better in long run?
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It seems clear that the team isn’t going a playoff contender for a couple of years. Palmer isn’t our future QB. Getting draft picks in a trade for Palmer would be beneficial. Also, if they did pick up a young QB, or go with Pryor, they could let him play and develop. Unless the team gets much better in the off season, sticking with Palmer just seems like a waste of time. I would rather have Palmer, though, than have the Raiders pick a QB in the first round. They need defensive players more than anything.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
There is no way Palmer gets traded.
Reggie and DA need to get wins on the board next year to keep their jobs.
Without Palmer the Raiders go 3&13 or worse next year and the firings would be wholesale.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Is Reggie really having a press conference, or is that just something that was made up in here?
November 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
There is no way Palmer gets traded.
Reggie and DA need to get wins on the board next year to keep their jobs.
Without Palmer the Raiders go 3&13 or worse next year and the firings would be wholesale.
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I wouldn’t mind seeing Reggie trade for Matt Flynn.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
YAH0000000
GGOOOO RRAAIIDDEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSS!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Cork has been camping outside Riggie’s office for the last 2 weeks for an interview.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Reggie has gone into hiding.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
me. I would rather have Palmer, though, than have the Raiders pick a QB in the first round. They need defensive players more than anything.
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And OL as well. We nee some horses up front for when we ditch the zbs.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Is Reggie really having a press conference, or is that just something that was made up in here?
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Reggie is going to speak on ‘The Sate of the Raiders’. But I hope there is a firing or two in there.
November 24th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Reggie is waiting for a win so that he can come out and say we have turned the season around.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
ND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Reggie has gone into hiding.
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Kind of tough to do with his size and all…
November 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Is Reggie really having a press conference, or is that just something that was made up in here?
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Reggie is going to speak on ‘The Sate of the Raiders’. But I hope there is a firing or two in there.
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Do you have a link? What is your source?
November 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Seriously who can Reggie fire at this stage?
If he fires DA then that means Knapp takes charge?
DA is responsible for the others.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
ND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Congrats Dakota. You are lucky that Barkley got injured.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
CINCINNATI – Hue Jackson is a proud man, and some would say his self-confidence is a full-blown swagger, but he is passing on the sound bites and taking the high road this week. The former Raiders coach would love to point out how much worse the team is this year without him, but he won’t.
Fired after one 8-8 season as head coach, Jackson finds himself in Cincinnati as the Bengals’ assistant defensive-backs coach and assistant special-teams coach, preparing to face his old team. He politely passed on an interview Friday, in a nice nod to critics around the league who thought Jackson was a little self-obsessed last year.
“You can’t get caught up in the emotional part of it, because that’s not what this is about,” Jackson said to Cincinnati reporters earlier in the week. “This is about winning and losing. There’s a team that’s really hungry, very talented. They have some big-time players that are going to try to come here and win a game.”
The Raiders are indeed a desperate bunch at 3-7, a year after they were 6-4 and eyeing a playoff spot under Jackson. Even after a trade for Carson Palmer, Oakland would lose four of its last five games and end an emotional season – during which owner Al Davis died – at .500 for the second straight year.
Jackson talked of having “a stronger hand” in the organization, but he should have spent some more time getting on the same page with new owner Mark Davis. Davis hired Reggie McKenzie as general manager, and McKenzie quickly replaced Jackson with Dennis Allen.
“You never know what’s going to happen, especially not with this team,” linebacker Rolando McClain said. “It caught me by surprise.”
Jackson spent most of his time with the offense, with Al Davis and then-coordinator Chuck Bresnahan in charge of the defense. (Jackson has said his “stronger hand” comment just meant that with Al Davis’ death Jackson would get to choose his defensive staff for the first time.)
The offense was the only reason Oakland was 8-8. Darren McFadden and Darrius Heyward-Bey were playmakers under Jackson, and the Raiders were seventh in rushing and scored touchdowns on 51 percent of their trips inside the 20-yard line.
This season, with the new zone-blocking scheme not a good fit, Oakland is 31st in rushing and 29th in red-zone offense (39 percent).
“(Jackson’s) a phenomenal play-caller,” Palmer said. “He does a great job of keeping defenses off-balance and surprising defenses with new stuff. I thought he was a great head coach.”
McFadden had 1,771 yards rushing and a 5.3 average in 20 games in 2010 and 2011 with Jackson as the offensive coordinator and then head coach.
“I felt like he helped me a whole lot, just building my confidence in the league,” McFadden said, “and he gave me the opportunity to show folks I can go out there and run the ball the way I do.”
This year has been awful for McFadden. He was averaging 3.3 yards a carry before suffering a high ankle sprain, and Sunday’s game will be the third in a row that he is out.
When he was here, Jackson sat down with McFadden to go over what his favorite running plays were. Mark Davis said he approached McKenzie last month to make sure Allen and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp did the same thing with the struggling McFadden.
Heyward-Bey, meanwhile, went from being considered a bust to pulling down 64 catches for 975 yards and four touchdowns last season.
“(Jackson) just saw the work I put in,” Heyward-Bey said. “He believed in me. He was the type of coach that he will call plays because he wanted to see if you were going to make a play.”
He, along with his teammates, will be happy to see Jackson on Sunday.
“Hue will be a head coach again because he is a great leader, he understands the game … but he’s also passionate,” Palmer said. “Guys follow him.”
It’s intriguing stuff, Jackson’s future, especially with his name being mentioned in rumors about the open Cal job. But he’s not biting.
“What’s intriguing is beating the Oakland Raiders,” Jackson said. “That’s the only thing I can think about at this point.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Visiting-ex-coach-Jackson-haunts-Raiders-4062903.php#ixzz2DCvicdPW
November 24th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Do you have a link? What is your source?
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I’m searching. I will find it.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Reggie could ‘order’ DA to fire someone but that could cause a rift.
I don’t see any firings at this stage – maybe after January? – but that would be DA’s decision.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
In 1993, one year after retiring as a player in the NFL, McKenzie returned to Tennessee as an assistant, helping lead the Volunteers to the Florida Citrus Bowl and landing one of the nation’s top recruiting classes, which included coveted quarterback Peyton Manning. While back at Tennessee, McKenzie also pursued a master’s degree in education administration.
McKenzie joined the Green Bay Packers in 1994 as a pro personnel assistant and was promoted to Director of Pro Personnel by current Raiders scout and former Packers General Manager Ron Wolf in 1997. In 2008, he was named Director of Football Operations for the Packers.
McKenzie certainly has an impressive resume and his steady rise in one of the most professional and winning franchises in the NFL only lends more weight to his credentials. But what exactly was McKenzie’s day-to-day job as “Director of Football Operations”?
According to the Packers,
“McKenzie oversees Green Bay’s scouting efforts of all professional football leagues, including the NFL, CFL and Arena Football League, as well as all other pro leagues and international players. He also plays an integral role in judging the Packers’ current players and evaluating potential free agents across the league. McKenzie is heavily involved in all of the team’s moves on a daily basis, including all tryouts and transactions.”
Impressive, considering Green Bay’s success during his time with the team (seven division titles, three conference championships, wins in Super Bowls XXXI and XLV and a 15-1 juggernaut this season that is expected to repeat last year’s Super Bowl Championship).
Additionally, in his position with Green Bay, McKenzie “provides advance scouting reports on upcoming opponents, working closely with the coaching staff, and contributes to the scouting of college prospects, making school visits in both the fall and spring, and works in conjunction with General Manager Ted Thompson in preparation for the annual draft.”
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This is the reason why Reggie needs to be given more time and those who say he needs to be fired after one year, don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. If after 2 or 3 years he hasn’t made this team competitive, then move on.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
INTs PER GAME:
Peyton Manning career: .94
Drew Brees career: .95
Eli Manning career: 1.1
Carson Palmer career: 1.1
Carson Palmer 2012: 1.1
Matt Stafford career: 1.2
Andrew Luck 2012: 1.2
Matt Ryan 2012: 1.4
- 9 starting QBs have as many or more INTs than Palmer this season, including Romo, Rivers, Luck, Ryan and Dalton.
- 18 QBs have at least 9 INTs. Palmer has 11.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I just honestly want to ask this question from every Raider fan , would Raiders be better with or without Palmer next year, why or why not?
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Now that all depends on who you think would replace him, duntnit?
November 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
No one is saying fire Reggie. But criticism of Reggie is due in hiring DA and allowing him to pick his entire staff. Plus, apparent inactivity as a GM to push and rattle his HC more as the season wore on. The bigger issue is OC/DC and ST coach, and other assistant coaches and DA as HC.
As in, the changes that NEED to be made must start at the position coaches and co-ordinators first, Allen given year two isn’t something to mutiny over in itself, but the co-ordinators and position coaches must be changed asap. And if DA doesn’t make changes, and/or he continues to struggle next year, then he must go end of 2013. Or, if he really has lost the players entirely even right now, this year, then his job is on the hot-seat end of season if guys like David Shaw, Jon Gruden, Chip Kelly, Mike Leach even, Marc Trestman, etc are available to hire.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
1464.Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Harrison Barnes is legit folks he may be the best DP the W’s have made since Rick Barry. The kid just sees the game better than most his atleticism is ridiculous and what a playmaker.
The W’s 1,2 & 3 spots are top notch. Even the 4 spot is fo-real if they can get this walking injury(Bogut) on the court this team looks primed for the playoffs. Not only that they are deeper than usual.
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I’m so damn excited I had to post this again…..Barnes is without ? one of the top picks in W’s history IMHO. The kid shots 3’s like it’s an afterthought just pure. Klay T. has the sweetest shot in the NBA and Curry is second to his. What a tri-fecta this is hands down the most excited I’ve been for this team since Rick came back and we won it all.
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You must have taken a few years off of watching the Warriors when Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin and a young Chris Webber was running through teams back in the day.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Congratulations Dakota.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I just honestly want to ask this question from every Raider fan , would Raiders be better with or without Palmer next year, why or why not?
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Better with Palmer next year. Right now there is no better option than Palmer and even if we draft a top notch rookie QB he will still have to sit and learn from Palmer. Palmer gives us the best chance to win.
Now our scheme and play-calling by Knapp is another story.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
This is the reason why Reggie needs to be given more time and those who say he needs to be fired after one year, don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. If after 2 or 3 years he hasn’t made this team competitive, then move on.
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3 years minimum.
5 years to give him a reasonable go at it.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
1491.504 Raider Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
1464.Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Harrison Barnes is legit folks he may be the best DP the W’s have made since Rick Barry. The kid just sees the game better than most his atleticism is ridiculous and what a playmaker.
The W’s 1,2 & 3 spots are top notch. Even the 4 spot is fo-real if they can get this walking injury(Bogut) on the court this team looks primed for the playoffs. Not only that they are deeper than usual.
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I’m so damn excited I had to post this again…..Barnes is without ? one of the top picks in W’s history IMHO. The kid shots 3’s like it’s an afterthought just pure. Klay T. has the sweetest shot in the NBA and Curry is second to his. What a tri-fecta this is hands down the most excited I’ve been for this team since Rick came back and we won it all.
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You must have taken a few years off of watching the Warriors when Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin and a young Chris Webber was running through teams back in the day.
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And how can I forget Sprewell.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
No one is saying Fire Reggie?
I’ve seen plenty of nuts in here write that.
I do agree that he should have had more involvement in who DA hired as his coordinators. I guess he tried to stray away from being too hands on like Al use to be? You know, picking the OC/DC before he hired the coach?
November 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
I know White Devil. It should be us and you, but the vest ruined it. He was there today, and the fans showed support.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I’m a Notre Dame fan. Really psyched about the 12-0 undefeated season so far. Looking forward to them taking on and hopefully taking down the SEC champ.
With all that said, Manti Te’o is not my first choice for our 2013 draft choice. I think he’d certainly be an upgrade over McClain. I just don’t think the MLB position has near the value it used to in today’s NFL. Go back 15-20 years and beyond and MLB was the premiere position on defense. Now, not so much as teams play more nickel than “base” D.
This team needs speed pass rushers in the worst way. I’ve been saying this since the reports came up that we may be releasing Wimbley. I really have. We need to bring them in via free agency. We need to bring them in via the draft. We need to get as many as we can. I haven’t really sized up this year’s class of pass rushers, but if there’s anyone there who could resemble anything like an Aldon Smith or Von Miller we absolutely have to go that route. After QB, elite pass rusher is probably the most important position in football. And we have absolutely zero right now and that’s why we have the worst defense in the league.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
If you hire a young rookie HC, it’s paramount to surround him with good experienced co-ordinators, like Al did. Especially as Al is far more connected and knowledgable than the rookie HC. Those experienced heads around the rookie HC will help him not hinder him. Look at when Kubiak was rookie HC, the GM selected his staff, he even had an assistant HC doing most of the work allowing Kubiak to learn. Same with Tomlin promoted up, the GM keeps the staff around him even if Tomlin would prefer or choose his own staff later. Etc with many other examples.
What Al did was not wrong or meddling in that regard, but setting up his rookie for a chance at success. Problem was Kiffin was a nasty liar and playa. Cable started bashing women, breaking jaws of assistant coaches, and taking girls with him to road games. And Hue (in Mark’s reasoning) was getting too annoying demanding more. If just one of these guys kept his head screwed on right, I am sure Al would’ve given them 2-3 or 3-5 years time at the job (progress there of course) and then given them more leeway to hire their own staff as they got more connected, able to lure better co-ordinators, or proved to Al they could X&O with him as good.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
#1498 is in reply to #1495 btw.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
You must have taken a few years off of watching the Warriors when Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin and a young Chris Webber was running through teams back in the day.
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The only player of those with this kids upside is Webber this kid has no limitations he’s 6′8″ 230 43inch vert. He can shoot it from 25′ in and put it on the floor, can pass and I’m watching him basically be the best player of the floor right now. This kid has Len Bias type talent the only thing he might be missing is he defers a bit too much. Watching him the only player I would have taken over him is the uni-brow. He is that damn good.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
And before anyone points out Gregg Knapp as an experienced OC…I said GOOD experienced coaches :p
November 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I get you. Hopefully Reggie surrounds DA with some talented coordinators.
Thanks GG
November 24th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
If Barnes were on a team that needed his scoring he could ave. 25 this year. I saw him a great player fits the other bight can’t remember the name but he carved the guy up and he hasn’t even played 20 games in the league yet.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Look at the staff Al surrounded Hue Jackson with. Imo, it’s one of the best staffs he put together, and also indicates he really liked Hue, felt he was a long-term HC, if he stayed alive, Hue would’ve probably had 3-5 years as a HC.
Look at the co-ordinators, the position coaches, under Hue in 2011. Al really set Hue up for long-term stability. Obviously, Al couldn’t let go of the defense, but eventually would’ve have and Hue would’ve been able to hire his own DC.
Mark erred in forcing Hue out. Or Reggie erred in removing Hue. Whomever made that call erred. Hue just needed a dressing down by the new GM. Told to zip it and focus.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I had serious doubts about him as a talent because he didn’t do it in college consistently. But his talent is limitless he can ave. whatever he wants because he has everything an Offensive player needs and he wont scatch the surface maybe until next year.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I get you. Hopefully Reggie surrounds DA with some talented coordinators.
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Yep, agree. Reggie 3-5 years is fine. DA for 2 years is okay…but as long as DA and/or Reggie make drastic changes beneath. If they’re both or DA resistant to hiring whole new support staff, then HC deserves the hot-seat.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I want DA to feel insulted by national media questioning his being hired and by the suggestion that Reggie made a mistake in doing so, and that Hue Jackson would have done better with this team.
I want DA to take it personally and be determined to prove everyone wrong, as opposed to bending over and taking a humiliating beatdown on Sunday and then smiling and asking for seconds afterword.
If DA succeeds..Raiders succeed. Whatever works to get this thing back from the bowells of regression.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Look at the staff Al surrounded Hue Jackson with. Imo, it’s one of the best staffs he put together, and also indicates he really liked Hue, felt he was a long-term HC, if he stayed alive, Hue would’ve probably had 3-5 years as a HC.
Look at the co-ordinators, the position coaches, under Hue in 2011. Al really set Hue up for long-term stability. Obviously, Al couldn’t let go of the defense, but eventually would’ve have and Hue would’ve been able to hire his own DC.
Mark erred in forcing Hue out. Or Reggie erred in removing Hue. Whomever made that call erred. Hue just needed a dressing down by the new GM. Told to zip it and focus.
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GG My man- you have grown quite a bit over the years…….this is indeed the voice of experience. This needs to be posted as many times as necessary to get it thru to those who can’t see the wisdom in it.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Not sure when I wrote it but I pointed out that i’m really interested in seeing how the troops will rally tomorrow for DA, after Mark had to address the mess this has become.
Hope to see some fire, even if it’s started by Huff’n on a Branch.
Worst joke I ever came up with.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
#1507….yep, agreed. Dennis doesn’t have that personal attachment to the Raiders like Hue did. Hue and Cable both Raider-lovers, and Hue the added fire of being personally and nationally advocated by Al Davis as the future of the Raiders, who understood the Raider way.
Whereas Allen is more like Kiffen. Just someone holding a HC position at one of 32 NFL teams. A chance to increase resume. Like a contract worker.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I think the Kam thing is still very up in the air. Raiders want him but not a $11 mil. Problem is they already have to pay him $6.5. His agent knows that and knows he’ll get an average of another $8 mil or so per year in FA. No incentive for Kam to take a payout. In fact, he may have incentive to get cut.
As much as Reg Mac doesn’t want to overpay, I really don’t see a plan B in free agency. He may end up biting the bullet and rolling with Kam under the current deal.
Smart money is still on Kam going, but I don’t think it’s the slam dunk others seem to think. Maybe 60-40 he’s gone.
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Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Need to do something about the pass rush if Kam goes. Can it be done for the $4.5 we’d save on Kam? Very doubtful.
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Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Everyone loves Shaughnessy, but you need as many guys to get after the QB as possible. Kam is our only edge speed option.
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Chris in NY Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
… Wimbley was overpaid, but better than just his sack totals and with upside. Not sure where we can get a comparable edge rusher.
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I realize Kam isn’t lighting up the sack total this year. But he brought a lot of pressure off the edge for us last year. There’s a reason we ranked 15th in the league with a respectable 39 sacks last year and are dead last with 11 sacks so far this year. TK, Seymour, Shaughnessy, Kelly and Bryant and all physically beat their man, but not quick enough to get to the QB unless and edge rusher is forcing the issue and forcing the QB to step up in the pocket first.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
INTs PER GAME:
Peyton Manning career: .94
Drew Brees career: .95
Eli Manning career: 1.1
Carson Palmer career: 1.1
Carson Palmer 2012: 1.1
Matt Stafford career: 1.2
Andrew Luck 2012: 1.2
Matt Ryan 2012: 1.4
- 9 starting QBs have as many or more INTs than Palmer this season, including Romo, Rivers, Luck, Ryan and Dalton.
- 18 QBs have at least 9 INTs. Palmer has 11.
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Interesting.
I know Favre played in 298 games and threw 336 int’s and he’s a no doubt hall of famer.
But HE has the wins.
He also had the TEAM.
November 24th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
#1508…awww, shucks, thanks. lol.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Not sure when I wrote it but I pointed out that i’m really interested in seeing how the troops will rally tomorrow for DA, after Mark had to address the mess this has become.
Hope to see some fire, even if it’s started by Huff’n on a Branch.
Worst joke I ever came up with.
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It wasn’t that bad Miami..lol.
Yeah. It’d be nice if we could get a win tomorrow.
Why does it seem that it is so waaaaay too much too ask from this team?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Priest,
Calm down a little. Barnes could average 25 a night? I don’t even think he did that in HS.
I like the kids game, very cerebral player. But he will NEVER be a 25ppg player, that’s nto his style. He makes the pass, the extra pass, and plays within the offense.
And KLay T does not have the sweetest jumper, he was dead last in 3 point shooting for guards a few games ago, and was another putrid 1 for 8 tonight. Shoots waaaaaaaay too many 3’s.
Carl Landry is the MVP right now. Great signing. Love Dray Green off the bench as well.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Welcome, you deserve it…..
November 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
I don’t even think ………..was the smartest thing you said.
Barnes with that talent could ave. 25 in this league. He was regarded as the 2nd best players after his freshman year he played in a system that isn’t conducive to dominating games consistently.
But it doesn’t surprise me at all that you don’t think this kid could ave. that if they needed it. Klay T shot is lethal and so is Curry’s.
But why waste knowledge on you man it wont help. Pearls b4 swine….
November 24th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Klay T had the highest % from 3 last year and this guy takes a few games and draws a conclusion.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Goodnite fellas…
November 24th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I’m just hoping for the sake of Palmers legacy we get the win and he plays well. I’m sure this game will define his career since and all of the sports writers will be waiting to put the finishing touches on his story book career. LOL
Good night gentleman!
November 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The way to tell if the coaches are doing a good job is “do the players look like they’re more comfortable and productive or less compared to before that coach came”.
Here’s my thing on Dennis Allen:
He changed offensive scheme which our best players still “aren’t on the same page” about.
Defense went from horrible to even worse.
The defense he coached last year to a bottom 1/3rd finish is now a top 10 defense under a better coordinator.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Goodnight Priestt, and others who are crashing.
See you all on the other side of post-game Bengals-Raiders.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Lebron James doesn’t even average 25 a night most seasons.
KG, never did it. Wade 3 of 10 seasons. There are 3 guys doing it this year, Kobe, Durant and Carmelo. Last year, Kobe, Durant, Lebron and Love. That’s it. Barnes isn’t anywhere near that class of player.
But yeah, the guy who averages 10 a night is just holding back from giving us 15 more points a night, lol.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
#1521, yep, it’s apparent. salary cap/talent is an excuse, and he’s been often blaming that for the 3-7 record thruout the season.
November 24th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Klay T had the highest % from 3 last year
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Just making crap up as usual huh Priest?
18th in the league last year pal, 82nd so far this year. Under 40% for his career.
Nothing worse than a blatant lier.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct/year/2012
November 24th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
How do you have a rational debate with someone who just makes stuff up?
November 24th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
GG Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
#1507….yep, agreed. Dennis doesn’t have that personal attachment to the Raiders like Hue did. Hue and Cable both Raider-lovers, and Hue the added fire of being personally and nationally advocated by Al Davis as the future of the Raiders, who understood the Raider way.
Whereas Allen is more like Kiffen. Just someone holding a HC position at one of 32 NFL teams. A chance to increase resume. Like a contract worker.
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Exactly!
November 24th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Interesting that the Miami media is pissing backwards on the Jake Long pick.
And one of their reasons for doing so? Nate Solder is playing better than him and he is no longer even the best tackle in his division.
Nate Solder = the guy New England drafted with our Seymour pick.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
How do you have a rational debate with someone who just makes stuff up?
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You’re the Spinmeister. Tell us again how Mitt Romney will win the election, and how great an OC Greg Knapp is………………….
November 24th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
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Why is it everytime I get back to the pad after eatin at the O Garden, I can’t make it to the toilet in time and whoa, drop my drawers and splash the walls. Word. Makes a mess but I got the blog posse cleanin it up for me. But you know they got the epic blast on video. Holla.
But all that gruntin and pushin makes for a might sore scrotum. So the nads need a little refreshing with some crushed iced, and my latest, salted pork. Then I get settled in and go drop a real Lawg where it belongs: on display in the crapper. Next I’ll wax my weiner Lawg and get a pube gel and its posse time.
ITZ ALL ABOUT THE DAWG LAWG, WORD
November 24th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
#1529…lol.
JFB is always good value for providing devil’s advocate views, revealing unknown truths or exposing fallacies.
But, gotta admit that’s a good burn :p
November 24th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Ah yeah, he can spin anything.
November 24th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Someone recommended an article to read, posting it here. Thirteen pages long!
The Hard Life of an NFL Long-Shot
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/the-hard-life-of-an-nfl-long-shot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&adxnnlx=1353826816-JpKfD%20VuvGGYe3UaJI33kQ&
November 25th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Its quite humorous to me when I read this blog and see DA supporters who say we shouldn’t fire Da he just needs a better OC and DC…. I say what the fk are we paying him all that money for as the headcoach if he has the least influence on the team? If the coordinators have more to do with our success then maybe we should hire one of them to be hc seeing that DA has no responsibility when it comes to wins and losses. Blaming Da’s failure this year on the coordinators is a lame excuse añd cop out. If the coordinators have to go he has to go as well because hes just as responsible for this teams failure as they are, because they’re under his watch as the players are. You guys need to stop making excuses for this man and just admit hes not the answer….
November 25th, 2012 at 4:10 am
I think it’s funny that everyone is bothered by Dennis Allen’s demeanor. They want to be angry and demonstrative, and to take the losses ‘personally’. Well guess what? Rex Ryan and Rob Ryan are both like that. It isn’t helping them win games. The Jets were just embarrassed on national television worse than the Raiders have in any of their games this year. You also don’t see Bellichick yelling a lot on the sidelines.
November 25th, 2012 at 4:21 am
What I’m angry with Allen about is the lack of urgency in his coaching. To make changes, to try more creative things, to shake things up. Which is evident in the blow out 3rd Qtrs. Which is evident in how long it takes to utilize various players.
November 25th, 2012 at 4:31 am
GG Says:
November 25th, 2012 at 4:21 am
What I’m angry with Allen about is the lack of urgency in his coaching. To make changes, to try more creative things, to shake things up. Which is evident in the blow out 3rd Qtrs. Which is evident in how long it takes to utilize various players.
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That’s a valid point. Something is wrong when you continuously get blown out in the 3rd quarter.
November 25th, 2012 at 4:32 am
I feel like the score has been close in every game going into halftime. What was the score of the Saints game at half?
November 25th, 2012 at 4:35 am
I guess the last two games haven’t been close at the half. Ravens game was 27-10 and the Saints was 21-7.
November 25th, 2012 at 4:44 am
It’s like hiring an intern to run the whole company while learning on the job, at the Raiders expense. Him slowly going thru the motions, slowly adjusting giving things months at a time experimentation, trying to figure out himself what works or not, that whole “still in training camp mode” by week 12.
There is no reason why Allen should get immunity from fans or GM/Owner. He is a rookie HC just like Greg Shianco. Probably should be considered more advanced than Shianco with years of experience in the NFL already while Shianco had none. Yet Shianco had his team ready from week 1 or 2. Everyone coached up and ready to go. The team has played hard and smart thruout. They don’t have a ton of talent either.
Why can someone like Shianco succeed immediately but someone like Allen can’t.
November 25th, 2012 at 4:52 am
People would say it was Al meddling in the past. But we have a whole new regime now. It must be just sheer coaching fault. Maybe we’re just constantly hiring not the cream of the crop of the young rising star coaches. We didn’t get Sarkasian. We didn’t get Payton. We didn’t get Harbaugh. We didn’t get Belichick (tho we got Gruden), that was the last time we still had the nous to get the best young coaches.
We could miss out on the next group like David Shaw, Chip Kelly, etc. Not sure Allen is worth persevering with or not. Why these last couple months of football, he has to pull his finger out and fight for his job, make changes to save it, show some urgency, some fire and passion. Otherwise…
November 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
326; Have you bumped your head. You claim calling Hue Jackson a better coach than Denise Allen is a stretch.
Remember Jackson won with the same team, minus his leading rusher (half the season) and Carson was fresh off the sofa and super rusty. Allen had them both for a full off-season and instantly killed the offense. Denise Allen is not NFL HC material. In fact he was a substandard assistant according to his record.
November 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Peyton-Manning-Denver-Broncos-lone-bright-spot-in-AFC-West-112012
This was nice to wake up to. Can’t even win among losers,…
November 25th, 2012 at 8:57 am
DA is our Derek Dooley. Dooley comes to UT as the young, sharp mind that’s gonna turn it around.
Only problem is he came in with 15-20 record at La Tech, changed schemes and didn’t win jack.
DA comes in with high regard DESPITE being only the 20th ranked defense at Denver…changes schemes, and DESPITE being defensive minded HC, is overseeing a historically bad defense getting blown out every week in humiliating fashion.
We can say “give him time” etc. etc. but we need some kind of indication that things will get better.
Sad to see things get so much worse week by week.
That’s the issue Mark has….the REGRESSION.
DA said the goal was to get better each week. EPIC FAIL on that aspect.
November 25th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I don’t expect SB or even playoffs (of course) this yr. but I don’t think it’s unfair to expect DA to NOT trot out the worst team in football every week and get beat down like they have.
Even if last yr.as a mirage and we were’nt as good as the record etc. it still should not be THIS BAD.
I’ll be doing jumping jacks of happiness if we win today and I want DA to succeed, but he needs to sport a team out there that isn’t a Raider Nation embarrassment and punchline.
Go Raiders.