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McFadden, Goodson and Seymour not playing Sunday

The Raiders will be without Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour for the third straight game.
All three missed practice Friday before being declared out for Sunday’s game against the Cincinnati Bengals game by coach Dennis Allen.
“They made progress this week,” Allen said, “but they’re not ready to go yet.”
That means regular fullback Marcel Reece will start at running back for the third straight game, with second-year player Taiwan Jones and rookie Jeremy Stewart the backups once again.
Reece is fresh from a game in which he amassed 193 yards rushing and receiving. He said he’s just trying to hold down the fort until the other backs return.
“We have so many playmakers on this team that no one’s that guy,” Reece said. “Darren McFadden’s the bell cow for this team and will be the bell cow for this team. Right now we’re kind of playing running back by committee. When it really comes down to it, you’re just trying to make plays the way you’re supposed to make plays.”
On a positive note, Goodson said he finally is out of the protective boot that he spent more than two weeks in while recovering from a high-ankle sprain. He and McFadden got hurt against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4.
Goodson said he is disappointed that he missed out on the opportunity to be the lead back.
“You see McFadden go down, and I was the next guy in line,” Goodson said. “You kind of want to get out there and show everybody what you can do, and then I go down with an ankle. The exact same injury (as McFadden), the exact same game.”
Goodson said he is making progress, though he doesn’t have a timeframe for his return.
Desmond Bryant will start in place of Seymour.

– Niners linebacker Aldon Smith recorded 5 ½ sacks Monday night against the Chicago Bears. That total is half what the Raiders have through 10 games and almost twice that of Seymour’s team-high three.
Allen said part of the paltry sack total owes to the Raiders lacking a speed-rusher like Smith. The other factor is the inconsistency of the linebackers and defensive backs in pass coverage.
“We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush,” Allen said. “Those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles, and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
Defensive lineman Dave Tollefson said the sacks will come as long as he and his defensive mates keep working hard and play within the context of the scheme.
“I played on (New York Giants) teams that got a load of sacks, and it was a group effort,” Tollefson said. “You got to keep pounding that rock. You got to just keep working, keep working and that wall will break down.”

– Like most teams, the Raiders goal is to feature a balanced offensive attack. Injuries and situations in games oftentimes dictate otherwise.
Given that, the Raiders are the most lopsided offense through 10 games, with 66.1 percent of their plays being passes.
By comparison, the Texans and 49ers are the most-balanced teams in the league, right about 50 percent pass and 50 percent pass.
Allen said it’s “extremely important” for the Raiders to have a balanced offensive attack.
“When you throw the football that many times, eventually bad things happen,” Allen said. “We have to have balance, we have to be able to run the football, we have to make teams play us honestly.”
However, being balanced doesn’t always equate to success. The Redskins (4-6) and Chiefs (1-9) are the third- and fourth-most-balanced teams, yet they are long-shots to make the playoffs..

– Bengals fans hoping to get a look at Carson Palmer, the quarterback that guided their team from 2004-10, won’t be able to do so if they live in the Cincinnati area. The game is blacked out locally.
Palmer was the Bengals first-round pick in 2003 (No. 1 overall). He spent his rookie season learning under Jon Kitna and didn’t play. He assumed the starting spot in 2004 and held on to that job for seven seasons.
The Raiders traded a 2012 first-round pick and a ’13 second-rounder to get Palmer from the Bengals last season. Sunday marks Palmer’s first game against his former team, in the stadium that he called home for so long.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck) said he’s “ready to roll” after missing last Sunday’s game. That snapped a streak of 57 straight starts for Branch.
Jones (ankle) and rookie defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) are questionable.

– Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has at least one touchdown in the past nine games. Overall, he has 64 receptions for 911 yards and 10 touchdowns in 10 games.
It’s not difficult to make a strong case for Green being the most-dangerous receiver the Raiders have faced all season.
“A.J. Green is having a great year,” strong safety Tyvon Branch said. “So we got to stop the ball from going on top. Keep everything in front of us and tackle.”
Cornerback Michael Huff will cover Green whenever he is lined up on the right side. Allen said the Raiders won’t use Huff or Ron Bartell to shadow Green.
Huff calls Green “an animal” and a better overall receiver than the Falcons Julio Jones, who Huff covered earlier this season.
“He makes more plays, probably plays the deep ball better,” Huff said. “You can throw it up to him, he just goes up and gets it, just makes plays. He’s better than Julio, to me. Not as fast as Julio as far as long speed, but he can still run.”

– Rookie offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom will see some more playing time Sunday, Allen said. Just don’t plan on Bergstrom catching a pass anytime soon, even though he oftentimes has been used as an extra offensive lineman.
When that happens, the referee is compelled to announce that “No. 70 has reported as an eligible receiver.”
“Don’t read too much into that,” said Bergstrom, who last caught a pass in high school. “I know I’m eligible, but that’s like saying a really ugly guy is an eligible bachelor. It doesn’t mean a whole lot.”

– Wide receiver Denarius Moore said he shares the blame for not being on the same page as Palmer in recent games, even though Palmer tries to take the lion’s share of the blame.
“We sat down and talked about what we need to do and what we need to get better on,” Moore said. “All the blame is not on him. Lately there’s been times where I was wide open dropped a couple of passes and times where I didn’t get off a release, or my timing was off a little bit.
“All the (blame) is not on him. It’s just watching film, seeing what the DB is going to do, what coverages we might get and what releases might work for us.”
Palmer completed only one of seven throws to Moore against the Saints. Against the Buccaneers a late pass from Palmer was intercepted, with Moore breaking toward the middle of the field, away from the ball.

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  • Priesttj12

    I supported both trades when they happened. Great gambles, NEEDED gambles at the time. Didn’t work out like we intended.
    **************************************
    These guys want to believe they see something we don’t…………sure have another drink!

    I jumped with joy at the Palmer trade and I’m getting frustrated now that I feel he leaves something to be desired. I don’t wnat to see a bad pick ue to his decision making for the next 2 -3 weeks because I’m getting tired of them.

  • Chris in NY

    Three different programs at which he has undefeated seasons within the last ten years? Pretty remarkable.

  • Plunketthead

    99 Those are not cheerleaders
    they are song girls and believe it or not my little sis was one for two years back in the late 70′s

  • jesusraiderjim

    Chris NY

    The guy has the “It Factor”

    So far away from our DA it factor LMAO it is not even close;

    The man is a motivator and knows how to get the most out of what he has.

  • Priesttj12

    Maybe the coach should put a bib on him like what harbaugh did with Alex Smith to get him to stop throwing up on himself.

  • mcfadden20.

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    So you’re saying on a team with as many problems as we have it would be smart to rebuild around a 33 yr old qb on the downside of his career making $15 mil a year

    —-

    Palmer can go atleast 4 more years and we can draft some guy to groom behind him , all you need to do is give Palmer a few more better players on his side and just get the D to perform average/above average and we could be talking about Playoffs at this next year instead of draft, if we trade him away for draft picks, we’re talking about draft again at this time next year

  • Plunketthead

    Jim
    your posted reminded me to congratulate him

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    J Hill Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    that is Seymour and Palmers fault?

    ————————————————————–

    Not at all.

    But the thought process was that they were the missing pieces.

    Turns out “a mising piece” wasn’t the answer.
    ===================================

    I never thought they were the missing pieces. I thought EXACTLY what the org thought, which was if players like that become available, you get them. No questions asked. Look at Des Bryant. He has become a good solid player really out of nowhere. How much credit does Rich Seymour get in HIS development. These are the things you guys don’t acknowledge. How much does Carson Palmer help DHB, Moore and Myers? How much is that worth? Can Pryor go in there and develop WR’s at this level?

  • 2romes

    That’s a weird statement. Cable and Hue’s Record were tha same.

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    2romes Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    I am not going to stop talking about the good Hue Jackson did for these org. until they find someone that can do the job better! He was not a dream in the future like Reggie and Allen his accomplishments were for real.
    ====================================

    Cable turned the franchise around. Cable built momemtum. Jackson squandered it, and eventually completely lost it, which is where we are right now.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I don’t know why this concept is so difficult to grasp.

    NO QB…Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or whomever WOULD NOT WIN with this team either.

    Does anybody really think it doesn’t matter that we have one of the worst defenses (statistically) in the league in a long time.

    Why do people choose to ignore that fact?
    —————————–
    1st, You don’t know that.
    2nd The Defense was just as bad last year.

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    I know for a fact Peyton manning could win with this team but if you admit that no qb could win with this team what is the point of keeping Palmer if he’s so good. It was a failed trade and we should get what we can for him and use it to rebuild

  • Just Fire Baby

    If McClain would have just done what Te’O did on that run (hit the FB never disengage while the RB blows right past you) people would want to cut him at halftime.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Funny how the “bad defense card” works for DA, but doesn’t work for Hue. Not really.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Urban’s daughter is kinda hot too.

  • mcfadden20.

    I get frustrated at some of Palmer’s ints as much as you guys but hard to really tell who’s at fault , our receivers rarely if ever create seperation from CB’s, and they constantly f8k up their routes and give them away i wouldn’t go the distance of Mistic to bash Palmer for all his ints

  • DJ Johnny

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    So you’re saying on a team with as many problems as we have it would be smart to rebuild around a 33 yr old qb on the downside of his career making $15 mil a year

    Palmer is a two time pro bowler and has had a couple of great seasons and this yr. his passer rating is above his career average.

    At 32 (he turns 33 in December) he is the same age as Romo and Eli. Are those guys on the downside of their career? He is 3 yr’s younger than Peyton and almost 3 yr’s younger than Brady. Are those huys “done”?

    His 11 int’s do not even rank him anywhere near the top like some like to assert, but his passing yardage does.

    Do we have all pro receivers? He has had THIRTEEN td passes DROPPED this yr.

    It’s a fair question in a rebuild scenario whether you want a guy at 32/33 to build long term.

    Let’s just consider all the facts before jumping to get rid of him.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I supported both trades when they happened. Great gambles, NEEDED gambles at the time. Didn’t work out like we intended.
    **************************************
    These guys want to believe they see something we don’t…………sure have another drink!

    I jumped with joy at the Palmer trade and I’m getting frustrated now that I feel he leaves something to be desired. I don’t wnat to see a bad pick ue to his decision making for the next 2 -3 weeks because I’m getting tired of them.
    ==================================

    If you are tired of the “bad pick” then Favre multiple picks in the NFC Championship Games or Peytons pick that ended the Super Bowl, you probably wouldn’t like those players either.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Palmer is a loser.

    A loser is a loser.

    Bengals 45 Raiders 27

    Just Win Baby.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Catch the ball DHB!

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Trojans are not reading the procession very well

    *****************

    LMAO!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    KoolKell Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I don’t know why this concept is so difficult to grasp.

    NO QB…Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or whomever WOULD NOT WIN with this team either.

    Does anybody really think it doesn’t matter that we have one of the worst defenses (statistically) in the league in a long time.

    Why do people choose to ignore that fact?
    —————————–
    1st, You don’t know that.
    2nd The Defense was just as bad last year.

    Last years D had 35+ sacks , this year we will be lucky to get 20 sacks, last year we had the best running game, this year we have the worst

  • Priesttj12

    have a good one guys…

  • Plunketthead

    Lane should have kept pounding the rock but that new QB has a great arm. WR ran right under it, put it on his chest

  • Just Fire Baby

    If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Palmer is a two time pro bowler and has had a couple of great seasons and this yr. his passer rating is above his career average.

    At 32 (he turns 33 in December) he is the same age as Romo and Eli. Are those guys on the downside of their career? He is 3 yr’s younger than Peyton and almost 3 yr’s younger than Brady. Are those huys “done”?
    ========================================

    Or the other point is RGIII is NOT on a lifetime contract in DC. He could play five years, be franchised twice, and then move on. If he is healthy. In other words we are going to get the same mileage out of a brand new player “theoretically”.

  • J Hill

    Palmer might get a little more slack if he had some playoff wins and SB wins under his belt like those 2.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    If McClain would have just done what Te’O did on that run (hit the FB never disengage while the RB blows right past you) people would want to cut him at halftime.
    ===================================================
    If Te’O played like Slo does all the time he’d go undrafted.

  • MiamiRaider78

    I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.
    ==================================

    Not with our team we wouldn’t. Sorry.

  • DJ Johnny

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
    I know for a fact Peyton manning could win with this team but if you admit that no qb could win with this team what is the point of keeping Palmer if he’s so good. It was a failed trade and we should get what we can for him and use it to rebuild

    I don’t believe Peyton would have won any more games than Palmer has this yr. We disagree and that’s alright.

  • Plunketthead

    I couldn’t let you and jhill have all the fun.

  • J Hill

    If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.

    ————————————————————

    Yes, we would!!!!

    Those guys are chess players and know how to read and beat defenses.

    Brady is doing it with a couple of TEs, lol

    Manning has a 2nd yr wideouts and a couple of stiffs

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?
    =========================================

    Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.

  • mcfadden20.

    One can also make an argument that we might have one of the worst receiving corps in the league

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    The difference between Palmer and Eli is that Eli has been getting better since earlier in his career and Palmer has gotten worse. Palmers best years are behind him he was a pro bowler in 2005 and back then he was one of the best QBs in the league but since he got hurt he hasn’t been near that level.
    The problem with his picks are that he throws them at the worst times the best QBs put the team on their back when the game is on the line and make their best decisions and throws at that time I mean even Tebow played his best during crunch time but Palmer seems like the opposite. He always throws picks and especially pick 6s when the game is on the line

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    It’s “progressions” not “processions” btw

    QB reads

  • DJ Johnny

    I think this yr’s defense is actually worse than last yr’s.

    If you look at the last 3 games: 42 pt’s, 55 pt’s, and 38…(should have been more but Vitt showed mercy…with his 2nd string offense no less) this defense where it sits right now is historically bad.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.
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    Funny, just last year you were licking Al Davis’ boots. Wow.

  • mcfadden20.

    Brady and Manning still have better support and better OC than Raiders and way better D’s , you can disagree with that all you want but it’s a fact

  • MiamiRaider78

    2nd most penalized team in college football, USC. Somethings never change, Lame Kiffin.

  • Plunketthead

    IMaster Po is spanking grasshopper

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    Peyton would take us to the playoffs no doubt but he is the best qb in the league and you can’t just get a guy like that. There is a reason Indy was a Super Bowl favorite with him every year and without him the worst teaming the league

  • Priesttj12

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
    I know for a fact Peyton manning could win with this team but if you admit that no qb could win with this team what is the point of keeping Palmer if he’s so good. It was a failed trade and we should get what we can for him and use it to rebuild

    I don’t believe Peyton would have won any more games than Palmer has this yr. We disagree and that’s alright.
    *********************************************
    I disagree 1,000% I think Payton Manning would’ve won at least 3 more games with this very same team. Because that is what great players do make everyone around them better………I would be our record would be what Denvers is right now. In the 4th qrtr Payton is money………..period

  • mcfadden20.

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    The difference between Palmer and Eli is that Eli has been getting better since earlier in his career and Palmer has gotten worse. Palmers best years are behind him he was a pro bowler in 2005 and back then he was one of the best QBs in the league but since he got hurt he hasn’t been near that level.
    The problem with his picks are that he throws them at the worst times the best QBs put the team on their back when the game is on the line and make their best decisions and throws at that time I mean even Tebow played his best during crunch time but Palmer seems like the opposite. He always throws picks and especially pick 6s when the game is on the line

    — Palmer throws to stupid wide receivers, Eli Got one of the best O line and V CRUZ AND NICKS AND others to throw to, and he got great D on his side

  • DJ Johnny

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    I’m not drunk but do any of you think that Palmer would have won a ring or maybe 2 if he had been the QB of the Ravens?
    =========================================

    Carson Palmer is really a miraculous player. There is no questioning EVER than he was deserved of the overall number one status. The issue with Palmer is he has been on the TWO WORST orgs in football if not all of sports. That’s been his problem.

    Probably the most telling fact to consider.

    Who can argue that point?

    Yes, Palmer has made some un-timely int’s. I don’t like it either, but he’s also constantly in a position where he has to be PERFECT or else we lose.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    J Hill Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    If we had Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, we would be Super Bowl favorites.

    ————————————————————

    Yes, we would!!!!

    Those guys are chess players and know how to read and beat defenses.

    Brady is doing it with a couple of TEs, lol

    Manning has a 2nd yr wideouts and a couple of stiffs
    ===============================================

    Denver has the overall number four defense in the league. New Orleans has All Pro Jimmy Graham, Mark Ingram, solid receivers and two All Pro’s on their Oline. You have Bellichik as coach in NE, and GB is 2nd or 3rd in the league in sacks. We are last. Jesus you guys, you can’t compare these teams to us. We are NOT in their league.

  • mcfadden20.

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Peyton would take us to the playoffs no doubt but he is the best qb in the league and you can’t just get a guy like that. There is a reason Indy was a Super Bowl favorite with him every year and without him the worst teaming the league

    ===

    Peyton had the chance of coming to a great organization , who freaking kept the same OC for all his years , who drafted Marvin Harrison (future HOF) Reggie Wayne ( could be considered for HOF TOO) also the TE had wasn’t that bad either, now he plays for a team that won 8 games with Tim Freakin Tebow last year year, because that D is legit, V Miller have like 3 more sacks than the entire Raiders D, Dumerville isn’t that far behind who got like 9 sacks

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Denver has the overall number four defense in the league. New Orleans has All Pro Jimmy Graham, Mark Ingram, solid receivers and two All Pro’s on their Oline. You have Bellichik as coach in NE, and GB is 2nd or 3rd in the league in sacks. We are last. Jesus you guys, you can’t compare these teams to us. We are NOT in their league.
    =================================

    Sorry let me rephrase my answer; it is all Seymour and Palmers fault. There, do you guys feel better.

  • DJ Johnny

    I think one of the reasons our penalties are down this yr. is on defense, our d backs don’t even get close enuff to the receivers for them to throw a flag.

    There IS more discipline on the o-line with less false starts, but at the end of the day who really gives a red rats rip when we’re getting hammered every freaking week?

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    My point is Palmer isn’t a great qb so there is no point in keeping him on a team with so many holes because he doesn’t make this team any better than it would be without him. There is no way we fill all those holes while Palmer is still here as a serviceable qb especially not with him getting paid as much as he is.