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McFadden, Goodson and Seymour not playing Sunday

By Steve Corkran
Friday, November 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders will be without Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour for the third straight game.
All three missed practice Friday before being declared out for Sunday’s game against the Cincinnati Bengals game by coach Dennis Allen.
“They made progress this week,” Allen said, “but they’re not ready to go yet.”
That means regular fullback Marcel Reece will start at running back for the third straight game, with second-year player Taiwan Jones and rookie Jeremy Stewart the backups once again.
Reece is fresh from a game in which he amassed 193 yards rushing and receiving. He said he’s just trying to hold down the fort until the other backs return.
“We have so many playmakers on this team that no one’s that guy,” Reece said. “Darren McFadden’s the bell cow for this team and will be the bell cow for this team. Right now we’re kind of playing running back by committee. When it really comes down to it, you’re just trying to make plays the way you’re supposed to make plays.”
On a positive note, Goodson said he finally is out of the protective boot that he spent more than two weeks in while recovering from a high-ankle sprain. He and McFadden got hurt against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4.
Goodson said he is disappointed that he missed out on the opportunity to be the lead back.
“You see McFadden go down, and I was the next guy in line,” Goodson said. “You kind of want to get out there and show everybody what you can do, and then I go down with an ankle. The exact same injury (as McFadden), the exact same game.”
Goodson said he is making progress, though he doesn’t have a timeframe for his return.
Desmond Bryant will start in place of Seymour.

– Niners linebacker Aldon Smith recorded 5 ½ sacks Monday night against the Chicago Bears. That total is half what the Raiders have through 10 games and almost twice that of Seymour’s team-high three.
Allen said part of the paltry sack total owes to the Raiders lacking a speed-rusher like Smith. The other factor is the inconsistency of the linebackers and defensive backs in pass coverage.
“We’ve got to do a better job of winning our one-on-ones, whether that be in coverage or whether that be in the rush,” Allen said. “Those things work together. It really comes down to individual battles, and we’ve got to win more individual battles.”
Defensive lineman Dave Tollefson said the sacks will come as long as he and his defensive mates keep working hard and play within the context of the scheme.
“I played on (New York Giants) teams that got a load of sacks, and it was a group effort,” Tollefson said. “You got to keep pounding that rock. You got to just keep working, keep working and that wall will break down.”

– Like most teams, the Raiders goal is to feature a balanced offensive attack. Injuries and situations in games oftentimes dictate otherwise.
Given that, the Raiders are the most lopsided offense through 10 games, with 66.1 percent of their plays being passes.
By comparison, the Texans and 49ers are the most-balanced teams in the league, right about 50 percent pass and 50 percent pass.
Allen said it’s “extremely important” for the Raiders to have a balanced offensive attack.
“When you throw the football that many times, eventually bad things happen,” Allen said. “We have to have balance, we have to be able to run the football, we have to make teams play us honestly.”
However, being balanced doesn’t always equate to success. The Redskins (4-6) and Chiefs (1-9) are the third- and fourth-most-balanced teams, yet they are long-shots to make the playoffs..

– Bengals fans hoping to get a look at Carson Palmer, the quarterback that guided their team from 2004-10, won’t be able to do so if they live in the Cincinnati area. The game is blacked out locally.
Palmer was the Bengals first-round pick in 2003 (No. 1 overall). He spent his rookie season learning under Jon Kitna and didn’t play. He assumed the starting spot in 2004 and held on to that job for seven seasons.
The Raiders traded a 2012 first-round pick and a ’13 second-rounder to get Palmer from the Bengals last season. Sunday marks Palmer’s first game against his former team, in the stadium that he called home for so long.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck) said he’s “ready to roll” after missing last Sunday’s game. That snapped a streak of 57 straight starts for Branch.
Jones (ankle) and rookie defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) are questionable.

– Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has at least one touchdown in the past nine games. Overall, he has 64 receptions for 911 yards and 10 touchdowns in 10 games.
It’s not difficult to make a strong case for Green being the most-dangerous receiver the Raiders have faced all season.
“A.J. Green is having a great year,” strong safety Tyvon Branch said. “So we got to stop the ball from going on top. Keep everything in front of us and tackle.”
Cornerback Michael Huff will cover Green whenever he is lined up on the right side. Allen said the Raiders won’t use Huff or Ron Bartell to shadow Green.
Huff calls Green “an animal” and a better overall receiver than the Falcons Julio Jones, who Huff covered earlier this season.
“He makes more plays, probably plays the deep ball better,” Huff said. “You can throw it up to him, he just goes up and gets it, just makes plays. He’s better than Julio, to me. Not as fast as Julio as far as long speed, but he can still run.”

– Rookie offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom will see some more playing time Sunday, Allen said. Just don’t plan on Bergstrom catching a pass anytime soon, even though he oftentimes has been used as an extra offensive lineman.
When that happens, the referee is compelled to announce that “No. 70 has reported as an eligible receiver.”
“Don’t read too much into that,” said Bergstrom, who last caught a pass in high school. “I know I’m eligible, but that’s like saying a really ugly guy is an eligible bachelor. It doesn’t mean a whole lot.”

– Wide receiver Denarius Moore said he shares the blame for not being on the same page as Palmer in recent games, even though Palmer tries to take the lion’s share of the blame.
“We sat down and talked about what we need to do and what we need to get better on,” Moore said. “All the blame is not on him. Lately there’s been times where I was wide open dropped a couple of passes and times where I didn’t get off a release, or my timing was off a little bit.
“All the (blame) is not on him. It’s just watching film, seeing what the DB is going to do, what coverages we might get and what releases might work for us.”
Palmer completed only one of seven throws to Moore against the Saints. Against the Buccaneers a late pass from Palmer was intercepted, with Moore breaking toward the middle of the field, away from the ball.

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  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Hey KK, how’s it goin? No QB could carry this team. The load of the coaching staff is too much for any one man, let alone a player, to carry this team. We need coaches who know how to utilize the players we got. Not implement a scheme counter-productive to the type of players we got. It makes absolutely no sense in the world. None. Zero balls, zero brains.
    ——————–1-
    Agreed.

  • MiamiRaider78

    J Hill Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    I didn’t say any of your first 2 statements.

    But I am for putting Palmer on the shelf, so to speak. If we are getting blown out, I see no need to keep trotting him out there to take a beating.

    Save Palmer for next year instead of risking injury.
    ___________

    I have called for the same. Let Leinart and Pryor get some snaps. Save Palmer for next year and let him coach up TP as much as possible.

  • Priesttj12

    These QB duels in the Pac12 are going to be fun to watch over the next 4 years or so. Stanford/Hogan, UCLA/hundley, Ore/Mariota , Arizona/Shott, with more to come this conf. is LOADED with young QB’s Wash and Or St as well.

  • MiamiRaider78

    I didn’t say that but without Palmer, the losses are much worse.

  • Priesttj12

    Cal Berk. better get one because it’s gonna be ugly if they can’t they wont be able to compete at all.

  • Los Raida Locos

    Legacy game for Palmer? No no no… HueJax maybe. If the Bengals can sodomize the Raiders, I suppose Hue can get the last grin. After all, Raiders have been sodomized quite a bit lately. Mercy. Oh have mercy.

  • lefty12

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
    Cal Berk. better get one because it’s gonna be ugly if they can’t they wont be able to compete at all.
    =========================================

    Cal has one-the kid from Danville.I believe his name is Kline.I believe he was like the 4th rated QB in the country coming out of HS.

  • DJ Johnny

    In order to decide which direction to go with the QB situation short and long term I think WE MUST get a look at Pryor at some point.

    If we don’t, then we will never know what he could have been…if anything.

    He sucks? Fine. Throw him out there and have your point proved.

    You can’t proceed to start looking at the next young QB to lead the team without at least crossing Pryor off the list.

  • Priesttj12

    Good Ol’ Lance Kiffin what putts this guy is. How big of a scumbag do you hav eto be to throw your own father under the bus on Nationwide TV. As the half ended they asked him what they have to do better; he says we have to get off the field on 3rd down it’s killing us………..lol

    Boy! talk about clessless, dear old Dad will get his pink slip post haste.

  • Los Raida Locos

    DA and knapp can’t coach, and we expect the team to do better? We are lucky to be 3-7. Players need to rally around Hue. Send a message to Reggie and DA. and Mark.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Priest, are you typing on a phone, or is your grammar that bad?

  • lefty12

    Cal needs a top flight coach.I read Peterson from Boise could possibly be interested.That would be sweet.Hue and Herm Edwards are also being mentioned along with a couple of others.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Honestly the biggest problem on this team is that we have an incompetent coaching staff that doesn’t know how to put players in a position to succeed. And honestly the Palmer debate doesn’t even matter because he’s going to be back next year anyway”

    Good post

  • MiamiRaider78

    Manti! Wow.

  • lefty12

    Los Loco-in case you haven’t heard,Hue Jackson doesn’t work for the Raiders any longer.Why the heck would they rally around him?

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    Yeah cal has zach Kline he redshirted this year hopefully he’s better than the last 4 star qb

  • J Hill

    Meanwhile, The Lakers are up 30.

    Might be ready for Xmas after all.

  • Priesttj12

    Hue would fit very well in Berkeley. That offense would be incredible. So would Peterson he would finally be able to recruit top teir athletes.

  • lefty12

    SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    Yeah cal has zach Kline he redshirted this year hopefully he’s better than the last 4 star qb
    ==========================He couldn’t be much worse than the last 2 or 3 QBs Cal has had.Maynard,Reilly,Abyob(?)-3 duds.

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    Mansion

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    The W’s are playing the T-wolves tonight not Denver so you wont see the refs make it a point for Curry & Barnes to foul out with BS calls.

    Blatant fix last night!

  • lefty12

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
    Hue would fit very well in Berkeley. That offense would be incredible. So would Peterson he would finally be able to recruit top teir athletes.
    ==========================
    Hue or Peterson would be fantastic.I think college just might be where Hue could really make his mark.He’d have total control and I believe he would be a great recruiter.

  • SJSURaider (19yr19fan)

    But the scary thing is he could be worse but fingers crossed dont want to jinx him before he even plays

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Oh my bad you guys are talking Raider football…

    Reggie’s record as GM 3-7.

    Go Raiders!

    KK did I get Reggies record correct? Just like you did AL…..fair & balanced right?

  • lefty12

    He couldn’t be any worse than Maynard has been the last couple of years could he?

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Not a peep from any single leader in the afr amer community. I guess none of these were white on black crime so no biggie…
    _____

    OAKLAND — Eight shootings across the city in a 24-hour period have left two dead and seven others wounded, police said.

  • raidertalk

    That Nix is pretty good

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Oh my bad you guys are talking Raider football…

    Reggie’s record as GM 3-7.

    Go Raiders!

    KK did I get Reggies record correct? Just like you did AL…..fair & balanced right?
    ————————-
    Dumbass. Lol.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    KK the clown, when your only comeback is “Dumbass” why do you even bother?

    Rhetorical question…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    KK the clown, when your only comeback is “Dumbass” why do you even bother?

    Rhetorical question…
    —————————
    That’s the only one I need for a dumbass like you. Lol.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    KK what you be doing right now if your white wife hadn’t left you 15 yrs ago ?

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    We had a running game vs Saints. That Saints game showed our defense is the #1 problem, OL #2.

    Hence: rebuild this team from the lines out, both sides of the ball, that includes a monster zero technique NT and move to a 3-4. Gap eating NT creates more opportunities for the DEs and LBs to get QB sacks/hurries.

    OL Priorities: marquee LT (veldheer to RT), or marquee Center and draft a RT and OGs in the latter rounds (Veldheer stays LT).

    Defensive Priorities: marquee NT, we already have many suitable 3-4 DEs (kelly, seymour, bryant, houston), and LB x2 or x4.

    With a killer front 7, we can ‘make-do’ at FS, SS, and CB with what we have already and adding in FA vets, or late round and UDFA prospects.

    A killer front 7 can override/protect/conceal a DB weakness. But not vice versa.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    KoolKell Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
    MistaBrown Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    KK the clown, when your only comeback is “Dumbass” why do you even bother?

    Rhetorical question…
    —————————
    That’s the only one I need for a dumbass like you. Lol.
    —–
    KoolKell must have graduated from Seymour Bush’s School of Trash Talking.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    KK,
    You notice I never call you a dumbass? It’s just redundant when everybody here knows you’re a horses a$$ it would just be a waste of my time to point out the obvious.

    Get it?

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    To get more picks…

    Trade who you can that’s on contract, and get whatever you can for those not particularly garnering much trade interest.

    But there should be enough interest in the following…

    Palmer (to Jets/Cardinals) for a 1st or conditional 2nd + mid/late round pick(s)

    McFadden (to Cowboys) for a conditional 2nd + late rounders if possible

    Shaughnessy for a mid-rounder

    Branch for a conditional 3rd

    Seymour and Kelly for whatever you can get, late rounders

  • RaiderRockstar

    I agree with Kell. Palmer can’t “carry a team”

    in fact he deserves as much blame as anybody else that we’re 3-7. turnovers lead to losses and the lack of chemistry with DMo17 the past few weeks is mind boggling

    think egghead Peyton Manning would allow that crap to happen?

    Palmer has a great arm and leadership skills. Problem is his decision making. He will always put up big TD and passing yard totals. Problem is he doesn’t win too many games and he gives the ball to the other team WAY too much for my liking.

    However, if Palmer was black Kell would talk him up like a 5-time Super Bowl champ

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    KK what you be doing right now if your white wife hadn’t left you 15 yrs ago ?
    ————————
    She’s right here watching a John Wayne movie with me. Dumbass. ;-)

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    However, if Palmer was black Kell would talk him up like a 5-time Super Bowl champ
    ———————-
    Why do you presume to speak for me, RR? Do I put words into your mouth?

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Lol good one!
    The imagination you can incur after a half a bottle of scotch.
    ___

    KoolKell Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    She’s right here watching a John Wayne movie with me. Dumbass.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Lol good one!
    The imagination you can incur after a half a bottle of scotch.
    ———————
    You should know, dumbass.

  • SaintKaufman

    Good lord!

    Ladies, it’s Saturday night. Go out and get yourselves whatever it is you get yourselves.

    Hey wait, Palmer isn’t black?

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Let me get this straight Munster. You and the miss’s cuddle up on your foldout lawn chair in the living room watching your 1947 black & white TV with rabbit ears watching John Wayne and you say “hey wait a minute sweety Im just going to post “Dumbass” on this blog, brb

    Is that how it goes down?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Yep

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    lmao @ Yep

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Glad to make you happy BrownStains. :-)

  • aryanation

    ook ook monkey chasing leather watermelon ook ook = get a life

  • J Hill

    Terrible play calling at the goal line, Kiffin.

    SMH

  • Priesttj12

    I’m sorry fellas but the USC QB cost them the game he just can’t accurately place the ball to be caught. I’ve watched him and given him the benefit of the doubt but that last passin the dirt hurt bigtime.

    I hate ND and was pulling for ol’Lance to win but man the kid needs reps bad……….period

  • Priesttj12

    Jhill if the kid puts the ball up correctly for MLee on the fade it’s 6, then he throws it too low on playaction the ec’r was wide open no need to pull the string. He’ll learn and be great eventually just not today.

  • J Hill

    That pass should have been caught, Priest.

    Hit the FB a little low, but both hands were on the ball.

    Pretty sorry play calling at the end running right into that packed middle. That PA pass should have been run on 1st down.