Raiders-Bengals postgame thoughts, observations
By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 26th, 2012 at 12:07 am in Oakland Raiders.
Tried a new approach this time, waiting awhile after the Raiders played before putting pen to paper, so to speak. As it turns out, there is no putting a positive spin on the latest debacle, this one a 34-10 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals.
In the process, the Raiders droppd to 3-8 and invited comparisons to the 2006 and 1997 Raiders teams that many remember as among the least successful.
They also are relegated to competing for a wild-card berth, as silly as that might sound, given they no longer can win a two-way tie with the Denver Broncos for the AFC West title. The Broncos improved to 8-3 and look light years better than the Raiders right now.
The Colts (7-4), Bengals (6-5) and Steelers (6-5) are the teams in the lead for the two wild-card spots in the AFC Playoffs.
Given that, we got a pretty good look today at just how far away the Raiders are from being a playoff-caliber team.
The Bengals jumped to a 24-0 halftime lead, coasted through the third period, survived a brief scare and pulled away for a convincing victory.
Cincinnati’s offensive and defensive lines outplayed their Oakland counterparts, Andy Dalton was more efficient that Carson Palmer at quarterback and, really, what else matters?
– Coach Dennis Allen speaks with the media Monday at 1 p.m. in his weekly news conference.
The interview everyone is eager to hear and read is the one scheduled Friday with general manager Reggie McKenzie.
It should be interesting to hear what McKenzie has to say on the heels of his team’s fourth straight loss, with the coach he fired on the opposing sideline Sunday high-fiving his new players, and the Raiders far less competitive this season than they were when he assumed the new role in January.
– The Raiders have allowed 169 points the past four games. Their point differential on the season is minus-138, two points better than the league-worst Chiefs.
– Not sure if many people noticed, but Bengals cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick recorded one tackle. He is the player the Bengals selected with the first-round pick they received from the Raiders as part of the compensation for trading Palmer last season.
Coincidentally, Jackson now is coaching Kirkpatrick. Jackson, of course, is the one that engineered the trade for Palmer. The Raiders also owe the Bengals their 2013 second-round pick as part of the deal.
– Rookie Tony Bergstrom got some more playing time Sunday. It figures to benefit him heading into next season, when he will be a candidate for a starting spot somewhere on the line.
On one play, Bergstrom was unable to keep up with a Bengals defender that got to Palmer.
– Palmer attempted eight passes for wide receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore. The only one that resulted in a reception came on a touchdown to Moore late in the game.
Heyward-Bey dropped a perfect pass on one throw, and Moore had at least one that seemed catchable.
On the bright side, rookie receiver Juron Criner caught three of the five passes thrown his way.
– Linebacker Philip Wheeler and defensive end Matt Shaughnessy recorded one sack each for the Raiders. That gives the Raiders 13 on the season, 3 1/2 fewer than 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith.
– Still don’t understand the rule where the Bengals lost a fumble, the Raiders recovered, everyone agreed on both, yet because of an inadvertent whistle by the officials the Bengals were allowed to choose between taking the result of the play or replaying the down.
Huh?
Fortunately for the Raiders, it didn’t cost them the game. It did cost them a chance to get back in the game and have an outside shot at a comeback. They deserved that chance.
Look for this rule to be one of several that gets changed in the offseason.
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November 26th, 2012 at 12:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9pFp6iRVM0
November 26th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:09 am
I knew that Palmer would lead ur to massive failure. Max 20, aig, jfb, jb, ghost, Alex,sully,dj Johnny, lofty, lefty , bay2la, raider Dave, gradkowski raiser , Kirk, & million others screamed instant upgrade.
Well is 7-14 & 35 turnovers an upgrade?!?!?
If you think so then upgrade your own mind & football acumen
November 26th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Ouch
November 26th, 2012 at 12:11 am
alex7 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:07 am
And Mack
“A win is a win” is just some saying.
Who you play and when you play them definitely matters. Look at the Bears between last week and this week.
We had many cupcake games the last two years (based on our historic losing streak prior to that) and suddenly we play the best divisions in football (NFC SOUTH and NORTH) this year.
Yeah, it matters.
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Thank you
November 26th, 2012 at 12:14 am
The Mack Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:11 am
You guys kill me, its the recievers fault, its Dmac fault, its carson, its kelly, its branch,blah blah blah. You mean to tell me every player on this team is struggling whether its offense or defense they’ve all just mysteriously forgotten how to play at the same time even though they were just fine the previous year after some players were even in the conversation for pro bowl considerations. 1 or 2 players lagging off ok but the whole dam team dropping off in unison? ?? There’s a common denominator folks and thats coaching. Point blank! Plain and simple.
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Man i don’t know what to tell you, the whole nation agrees with the notion our O has regressed because of our OC, but if you think D was good last year , then i have nothing further to talk to you about
November 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
manassamauler Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:09 am
I knew that Palmer would lead ur to massive failure. Max 20, aig, jfb, jb, ghost, Alex,sully,dj Johnny, lofty, lefty , bay2la, raider Dave, gradkowski raiser , Kirk, & million others screamed instant upgrade.
Well is 7-14 & 35 turnovers an upgrade?!?!?
If you think so then upgrade your own mind & football acumen
>> Palmer has played better this season. and did you SEE campbell against the fruity niners? campbell should have NEVER even been a starter. dude sucks. thats a FACT. JC got to play against cupcake teams and a historically bad AFC west. Palmer has faced FAR BETTER teams. you’re blind man.
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Aw let him go on , let him enjoy his beautiful sunday, or monday morning which ever he prefers, bet he will have nice week , but he’s just a troll looking for attention
November 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
The good stuff from last thread:
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I see that reasonable posters, Vegas, ESPN, and various media people who un-emotionally study this stuff KNEW the Raiders had 4 to 6 win talent.
And that’s what they are on par for.
What specifically did Dennis Allen fail to achieve that he was SUPPOSED to achieve in one year? He’s reduced the penalties and lost to playoff teams like the Ravens, Saints, Falcons, Broncos, and Bengals.
Yawn. It’s a 3-year process.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:18 am
the reasons Vegas had us at 4-6 wins this year:
1.) The incredible coaching turnover (new HC,OC,DC,O-line coach)
2.) Our atrocious D had no draft picks or FA money to use for help.
3.) MUCH tougher schedule this year (NFC South and AFC North)
4.) Manning in the AFC West = Raider losses.
5.) We were 1-4 down the stretch last year and 2-8 outside our weak conference in 2010.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:19 am
alex7 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
The good stuff from last thread:
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I see that reasonable posters, Vegas, ESPN, and various media people who un-emotionally study this stuff KNEW the Raiders had 4 to 6 win talent.
And that’s what they are on par for.
What specifically did Dennis Allen fail to achieve that he was SUPPOSED to achieve in one year? He’s reduced the penalties and lost to playoff teams like the Ravens, Saints, Falcons, Broncos, and Bengals.
Yawn. It’s a 3-year process.
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“In any conversation, argument, or debate, the need to reference the viewpoint of another only serves to weaken your opinion”
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November 26th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Main problem with this team is the Pass rush, the only way we even get to QB’s is with blitzes, and you know that you can’t stop O’s by blitzing all day, you need natural pressure most of the times, draft a stud DE, or stud OLB if we switch to 3-4
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We can’t switch to 3-4 right now because we have DT capable of playing NT. I think DT is the position of need on this team. Our current DTs are undersized and aging (see Seymore’s lingering injuries).
If we get a big run stopper our LBs can get freed-up to make more plays.
Our Defense starting improving with the play of Burris and Wheeler after the bye. However, the turning point for this Defensive squad came when little Doug Martin of the Bucs ran through holes on our Dline and put up a 250 yards. Burris and Wheeler WERE IN POSITION but were so worn out by lack of “bigs” in the front that the tackling started to wear down.
Improvement in the DT position will free the LBs up to do more damage overall.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:20 am
manassamauler Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
The Mack Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:11 am
You guys kill me, its the recievers fault, its Dmac fault, its carson, its kelly, its branch,blah blah blah. You mean to tell me every player on this team is struggling whether its offense or defense they’ve all just mysteriously forgotten how to play at the same time even though they were just fine the previous year after some players were even in the conversation for pro bowl considerations. 1 or 2 players lagging off ok but the whole dam team dropping off in unison? ?? There’s a common denominator folks and thats coaching. Point blank! Plain and simple.
>> i see your point BUT just look at the teams the Raiders are playing this year and compare to 2010 and 11. you’ll see that this team was never any good. raiders got smoked by every top team they played in 2010 and 11, look at it. This year the raiders are actually playing against tough opponents with real QBS and are getting smoked. raiders were NOtgood in 2010 and 11,just had an easier schedule.
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Not only are we facing really good passing attacks this year than last 2 years combined, but we also have the worst pass rush, Kell and Seymour = injury problems and long in tooth to rush the passers, Shaugnessy and Houston= one shouldn’t be starting and the other is playing out of position
November 26th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Raiders might have their choice of:
Manti Te’o, LB, Notre Dame
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Jarvis Jones, OLB/DE, Georgia
Keenan Allen, WR, California
or trading down if the Jets or Cardinals want to draft a QB.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:23 am
lol backstage
I was actually quoting myself, so…
And also: “It is a wise person who seeks the counsel of many.” Bible Proverb.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:24 am
raidertalk Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Main problem with this team is the Pass rush, the only way we even get to QB’s is with blitzes, and you know that you can’t stop O’s by blitzing all day, you need natural pressure most of the times, draft a stud DE, or stud OLB if we switch to 3-4
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We can’t switch to 3-4 right now because we have DT capable of playing NT. I think DT is the position of need on this team. Our current DTs are undersized and aging (see Seymore’s lingering injuries).
If we get a big run stopper our LBs can get freed-up to make more plays.
Our Defense starting improving with the play of Burris and Wheeler after the bye. However, the turning point for this Defensive squad came when little Doug Martin of the Bucs ran through holes on our Dline and put up a 250 yards. Burris and Wheeler WERE IN POSITION but were so worn out by lack of “bigs” in the front that the tackling started to wear down.
Improvement in the DT position will free the LBs up to do more damage overall.
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I get your logic, but you’re talking from Run D standpoint, but our bigger concern is getting to QB’s more ,so we need 2 Legit DE to take over for Shaugnessy and Houston, we could also use better pass rushing DT as well , but pass rush all starts with outside edge guys we have shown we can stop Runningbacks when ain’t selling out to stop the passing
November 26th, 2012 at 12:25 am
These last 4 weeks are the 2011 equivalent of playing the Dolphins, Packers, Patriots, and Broncos games back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
We were blown out in all of them.
We weren’t that good last year either, had ridiculous contracts to shed (and some talent to lose), and it’s a full organizational rebuild.
2014 is when it’ll be judged for good.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Finally there are smart guys who gets that this team lacks major talent to compete with top teams the like we have faced 4 weeks in a row, especially all due to really weak pass rush, Whole D line could use overhaul
November 26th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Our 3-4 front seven.
DE L. Houston
DT D. Bryant (upgrade needed)
DE Shaughnassy
OLB Burris (pass-rushing draft pick upgrade needed)
ILB McClain
ILB (draft pick)
OLB Wheeler
November 26th, 2012 at 12:29 am
alex7 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:25 am
These last 4 weeks are the 2011 equivalent of playing the Dolphins, Packers, Patriots, and Broncos games back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
We were blown out in all of them.
We weren’t that good last year either, had ridiculous contracts to shed (and some talent to lose), and it’s a full organizational rebuild.
2014 is when it’ll be judged for good.
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We can become good next year, you won’t believe how much getting a top OC,#1 Receiver, and top notch Pass rushers can do for this team, but i do get your point, 2014 will be the year when we could have a good player at every position and very good depth
November 26th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Palmer threw for a measly 146 yards with a pick & fumble. He made the bengals defense look like the 85 bears.
Clearly one of the flag ship flop jobs of Carson’s miserable career.
His legacy game was riddled with shrinkage. Laughed off the field with his tail tucked & dragging his supporters lofty expectations like an anchor
What a joke
November 26th, 2012 at 12:32 am
goodnight all.
We have ZERO impact players on D.
Our roster talent is par with the Jaguars for worst in the league.
Chiefs actually have surprising individual talent (Eric Berry, Dwayne Bowe, Jamaal Charles, Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson) but need a new HC and QB.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Mc20 you’re crediting responsibility to this regime for the O but the D has regressed as well and some how DA is responsible for the O’s regression but not the D to you? Yes the defense was bad last year but this year its god awful, hes made it worse. There has been regression across the board under Dennis watch, offense, defense, special teams and staffing, but you only seem to be willing to admit the regression of the O but hes responsible for the entire teams regression. His presence hasn’t just affected the offense its defense and special teams as well. Hes failed every where, thats what im trying to get you to see.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Saying we lack talent? Well start with the qb.
Funny you were one of the main people that tried to deny this was a rebuild season.
I told you we were 3-5 game winner with Carson and you said playoffs macbuttcheese20, & the Rest of the impostors.
Now your bailing on Carson & admiring this team sucks.
Late to the party but late is better than never I get
November 26th, 2012 at 12:35 am
alex7 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Our 3-4 front seven.
DE L. Houston
DT D. Bryant (upgrade needed)
DE Shaughnassy
OLB Burris (pass-rushing draft pick upgrade needed)
ILB McClain
ILB (draft pick)
OLB Wheeler
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Rem Seymour was originally an END in 3-4 with Pats, so maybe he might get his ass out of his end play upto his contract , Mcclain also was a 3-4 player in ALABAMA, so we can go certain ways, we can trade Mcfadden for a 2nd pick , if we get top pick , we can either draft J Jones OLB , Georgia, instantly fixes the pass rush, or Manti Te’o we get out real ILB , or trade down a few spots get a 2nd rd pick in the trade, draft that Texas A&M OLB Sean Porter, or LSU DE/OLB Mingo , get NT Jenkins from Georgia (projected to go in 2nd rd) with one of the 2nd rd picks acquired and draft either another OLB or ILB with the other 2nd rd pick
November 26th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Bed time don’t know how long it will take to sleep this off. Palmer was pounded into submission in his legacy game & was flat out punked
November 26th, 2012 at 12:39 am
The Mack Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Mc20 you’re crediting responsibility to this regime for the O but the D has regressed as well and some how DA is responsible for the O’s regression but not the D to you? Yes the defense was bad last year but this year its god awful, hes made it worse. There has been regression across the board under Dennis watch, offense, defense, special teams and staffing, but you only seem to be willing to admit the regression of the O but hes responsible for the entire teams regression. His presence hasn’t just affected the offense its defense and special teams as well. Hes failed every where, thats what im trying to get you to see.
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D was really bad last year, you really didn’t get to see that because we didn’t face many top teams, but you don’t need to go further than week 17 when we failed to stop SD on any possession, and if you really want to get into it, just tell me what playmaker do we have on that side? Houston? Shaugnessy, Kelly, Seymour ? PLEase, we had better pass rush last year , due to Kelly and Seymour being younger , and we had Wimbley (who was way overpaid) but still was our best pass rusher, this year we don’t get to qb’s unless we dial up blitzes
November 26th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Bed time don’t know how long it will take to sleep this off. Palmer was pounded into submission in his legacy game & was flat out punked
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146 yards were still more than what JC had in any of his games here and Palmer had better rating in his initial Raiders game than the 12 QB rating JC posted against the Whiners couple of years back
November 26th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Oh lets not forget 105 yards against the Whiners last week , with a legit #1WR (B Marshall) who’s better than all of our receiving guys combined
November 26th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Still put up more points than JC DID in 6 quarters with better Offensive group
November 26th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Bed time don’t know how long it will take to sleep this off. Palmer was pounded into submission in his legacy game & was flat out punked
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And everyone know , that you will sleep like a baby since your wish came true this week, only if Palmer had won, you would have had nightmares and would have gotten insomnia or something
November 26th, 2012 at 12:49 am
I dont think we’re the 2000 ravens on defense but we’re better than what we’ve shown these past four weeks. That Atlanta game proved a lot to me. Carson palmer and the turnovers on offense blew that game for us but the way we competed proved to me that we can compete with the talent we have because Atlanta is an offensive Juggernaut in this league and we defended them well. We defended them well because we were “prepared ” the bye week allowed the coaching staff to scout and game plan against them to perfection. But the thing is it shouldn’t take a coach 2 weeks to come up with a solid game plan. And the D looked good against Tampa until the 2nd half, and once again thats on the coaching staff game planning and half time adjustments. If we were completely out of our league wed never show flashes. Im not saying we have a sb defense talent wise but i know for a fact we can atleast be competitive but DA doesn’t even have them competing. I mean they didnt show up til the 3rd quater.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:50 am
Is Cork saying Criner was our best WR today?
Another drafting success we can chalk up for Reggie.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Fire them alllllll!
Sell the team dutchboy…your family stink is permeating the organization.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:54 am
The Mack Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:49 am
I dont think we’re the 2000 ravens on defense but we’re better than what we’ve shown these past four weeks. That Atlanta game proved a lot to me. Carson palmer and the turnovers on offense blew that game for us but the way we competed proved to me that we can compete with the talent we have because Atlanta is an offensive Juggernaut in this league and we defended them well. We defended them well because we were “prepared ” the bye week allowed the coaching staff to scout and game plan against them to perfection. But the thing is it shouldn’t take a coach 2 weeks to come up with a solid game plan. And the D looked good against Tampa until the 2nd half, and once again thats on the coaching staff game planning and half time adjustments. If we were completely out of our league wed never show flashes. Im not saying we have a sb defense talent wise but i know for a fact we can atleast be competitive but DA doesn’t even have them competing. I mean they didnt show up til the 3rd quater.
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NO we’re def not 2000 Ravens, we’re not even 2012 Raiders, please tell me how are we supposed to beat top QB’s with no pass rushers, last year we had Wimbley, who’s not that great but was still our best pass rusher? agreed? last year we had younger kelly and seymour, so younger kelly and seymour provide better pass, agreed? and you need to beat top QB’s with natural pass rush? agreed? so lets get over this subject, unless DA had some one like V Miller on that side and we still didn’t get to qb’s i would agree with you that the D is regressing because of our coaching
November 26th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Notre dame would kill the raiders!
Hell, even Michigan could beat the raiders!
November 26th, 2012 at 1:03 am
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000089907/Jackson-64-yard-grab
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This is 3rd and 15 play, nobody near J freeman, how are we supposed to win with this pass rush? can you say it’s coaching ? Are Shaugnessy, Houston , 50 year old Seymour and 50 year old Kelly, underachieving?
November 26th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Mark, sell the team to Dr. Jerry Buss. He is making billions from a tv deal, so he will give you a fair price. Heck, he might even let you pop your cherry on a laker girl as part of a deal. Let a real pro run this team for once.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Dakota Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Mark, sell the team to Dr. Jerry Buss. He is making billions from a tv deal, so he will give you a fair price. Heck, he might even let you pop your cherry on a laker girl as part of a deal. Let a real pro run this team for once.
-_ Another guy fooled by last years fluke 8-8 season, and the talent level on this team
November 26th, 2012 at 1:13 am
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000100438/Palmer-sacked-up
Poor Palmer
November 26th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Mcfadden is correct about lack of talent.
5th round rookie is out best WR today.
What more proof is needed?
November 26th, 2012 at 1:21 am
Kiwi_Blade Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Mcfadden is correct about lack of talent.
5th round rookie is out best WR today.
What more proof is needed?
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Bengals have like 4 wide receivers on roster who could be #1 wr on our team LMAO
November 26th, 2012 at 1:22 am
I know we had an easy schedule last year, and a very easy schedule the year before that, and that we lost one talented pass player, wimbley, in the offseason, and that we had zero cap space to work with and hardly any draft picks.
That is all true, but it does not excuse the level of play we are seeing on the field this year. Sure, losing wimbley and having a more difficult schedule might have resulted in more lOsses, but it simply does not justify or excuse the garbage product we have seen on the field, really since the first preseason game. That is on the coaching staff.
This is the 21st century, the era of parity, and yet with this coaching staff we are setting records for futility.
No the coaches are not 100% to blame…the players are responsible for this mess too, but anyone who looks at this team and thinks this coaching staff has the ability to turn this around is simply fooling themselves, and will be deeply disappointed at the results once this staffs time is up.
They have shown no ability to have the team prepared to play on a weekly basis. We simply have not improved one bit, even from the preseason. Reggie fked up, not in firing hue Jackson, that had to be done, but in his first choice of a head coach. Reggie can either cut bait, or he can let DA and this staff drag him down with them. The choice is his.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Palmer threw for a measly 146 yards with a pick & fumble. He made the bengals defense look like the 85 bears.
Clearly one of the flag ship flop jobs of Carson’s miserable career.
His legacy game was riddled with shrinkage. Laughed off the field with his tail tucked & dragging his supporters lofty expectations like an anchor
What a joke
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no, ur the joke, sullivan.
palmer didn’t make them look good, our line did. the fumble wasn’t his fault and of course u know that, but because ur a complete tool who lives only to try to cause irritation (what a life’s goal!), u just keep pretending not to know all of the other parts of the team are why the raiders lose. palmer is still the best player on the team.
there is no such thing as a legacy game. no one has ever said that except u. maybe a super bowl, but not a game when ur team is 3-7 going in.
ur just such a moron. don’t u get tired of being called an idiot everyday?
November 26th, 2012 at 1:23 am
I really hope Norv gets fired by SD , he s8cks at HC job, but he’s instantly a huge upgrade over Knapp, and even Hue at Offensive Coordinator
November 26th, 2012 at 1:27 am
things of note:
i can’t believe how much stewart is being used.
reece again ran well.
the offense was crippled by so many short passes. only moore, with one 20-yard catch, averaged over 7 yards per catch.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Dakota Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:22 am
I know we had an easy schedule last year, and a very easy schedule the year before that, and that we lost one talented pass player, wimbley, in the offseason, and that we had zero cap space to work with and hardly any draft picks.
That is all true, but it does not excuse the level of play we are seeing on the field this year. Sure, losing wimbley and having a more difficult schedule might have resulted in more lOsses, but it simply does not justify or excuse the garbage product we have seen on the field, really since the first preseason game. That is on the coaching staff.
This is the 21st century, the era of parity, and yet with this coaching staff we are setting records for futility.
No the coaches are not 100% to blame…the players are responsible for this mess too, but anyone who looks at this team and thinks this coaching staff has the ability to turn this around is simply fooling themselves, and will be deeply disappointed at the results once this staffs time is up.
They have shown no ability to have the team prepared to play on a weekly basis. We simply have not improved one bit, even from the preseason. Reggie fked up, not in firing hue Jackson, that had to be done, but in his first choice of a head coach. Reggie can either cut bait, or he can let DA and this staff drag him down with them. The choice is his.
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DUDE are you kidding with me? they didn’t show that last year either, our worst games came at time when we needed to win to make the playoffs, we got our butts handed to us in Miami , i believe in week 14, we got our butts handed to us by ,GB i believe the score was like 21-0 after the first quarter in week 15, we barely beat KC in OT , thank god to Seymours block on the GW FG try by KC kicker, we got our butts handed to us on plate by SD in last game , the team coached by Norv freaking turner which had nothing to play for showed up and played like their lives were on the line, and if it wasn’t for Palmer trying to keep up with SD, the game would have been ugly
November 26th, 2012 at 1:30 am
dr_robert Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Palmer threw for a measly 146 yards with a pick & fumble. He made the bengals defense look like the 85 bears.
Clearly one of the flag ship flop jobs of Carson’s miserable career.
His legacy game was riddled with shrinkage. Laughed off the field with his tail tucked & dragging his supporters lofty expectations like an anchor
What a joke
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no, ur the joke, sullivan.
palmer didn’t make them look good, our line did. the fumble wasn’t his fault and of course u know that, but because ur a complete tool who lives only to try to cause irritation (what a life’s goal!), u just keep pretending not to know all of the other parts of the team are why the raiders lose. palmer is still the best player on the team.
there is no such thing as a legacy game. no one has ever said that except u. maybe a super bowl, but not a game when ur team is 3-7 going in.
ur just such a moron. don’t u get tired of being called an idiot everyday?
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Only reason i can see with his Palmer rants, is because the guy doesn’t get any love or attention in real life, so he comes in here and says the most ridiculous things ever like QB was the reason we lost to Baltimore after they put up 55 points us, to get instant replies and etc, etc
November 26th, 2012 at 1:34 am
i’m convinced missdick is sullivan. not sure if u know who that is.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:36 am
Offensive side has regressed, because of Knapp , DA can’t do anything about it , but lets not kid ourselves and start saying we would have scored 30+ points and kept up with high scoring teams,DA can only hope there is some one good available to take over that side next year, let’s hope it’s Norv, i want him fired from SD really bad so we can snatch him up for OC job, along with a little hope that D Bowe can come to Oakland with a decent contract, but still lets not get too far ahead of ours yet even if we make all those improvements on O side next year, the season is still going to depend on how well our D plays, so lets hope we can get a good pass rusher and Fs in free agency, and another good pass rusher, a pass rushing DT, and good Depth players in draft
November 26th, 2012 at 1:38 am
dr_robert Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:34 am
i’m convinced missdick is sullivan. not sure if u know who that is.
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LOL I think it could be MR too, remember he hates Palmer as well and he also loves to say the most ridiculous things ever which will get instant responses, or M1stic went to the same univeristy of tr0lling as Sullivan did , cuz they’re really good at it
November 26th, 2012 at 1:39 am
Sorry to break the news to you mcfadden20, but this coaching staff will NEVER take this team anywhere significant. There is no sign anywhere that they have what it takes to build a winner. Defense, special teams, o-line, running game…all worse than last season.
They have failed completely.
I don’t want this to be true, and I think firing another hc is just going to make us look bad again, but one thing is certain; this coaching staff does not have what it takes to get this team moving in the right direction.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:41 am
even though the play didn’t count because of sh1tty refs, but Hanson’s forced fumble and that dive to keep the ball inside the field, was the best D play i seen by a Raider defender in years
November 26th, 2012 at 1:45 am
NFL officials in collusion to keep the Raiders down has become too obvious
November 26th, 2012 at 1:45 am
Dakota Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:39 am
Sorry to break the news to you mcfadden20, but this coaching staff will NEVER take this team anywhere significant. There is no sign anywhere that they have what it takes to build a winner. Defense, special teams, o-line, running game…all worse than last season.
They have failed completely.
I don’t want this to be true, and I think firing another hc is just going to make us look bad again, but one thing is certain; this coaching staff does not have what it takes to get this team moving in the right direction.
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LOL , Offense is all fault of bad hiring by DA, and same with SPecial teams , but i think he can correct all that, by hiring some one like Norv Turner who would not get more OC offers from other teams and would love to come back to Nor Cal, he would also have adequate time on deciding which special teams guy he can hire , I’m just not buying that D has regressed due to coaching , it has regressed due to playing better passing teams this year than last 2 years combined and due to having no pass rusher, did you check out that 3rd and 15 play by Josh Freeman?
November 26th, 2012 at 1:46 am
Raider fans should take NFL to court
November 26th, 2012 at 1:46 am
its not even sport anymore
November 26th, 2012 at 1:48 am
I posted a link to a video to show how horrible our pass rush is, Shaugnessy was blocked to the ground, Houston is having trouble going 1 on 1 against RT , I don’t know who the DTs are but they didnt get 1 yard push on an obvious 3rd and 15 play, that’s not coaching , that’s talent, No pass rushers on this team
November 26th, 2012 at 1:49 am
we was gonna come back and beat em…the officials knew it too
November 26th, 2012 at 1:52 am
Not just that freaking BS on an obvious fumble, but a tripping call in one of our best drives of the games , that killed the momentum, but KNAPP needs to go, he calls the same formations and same plays over and over
November 26th, 2012 at 1:54 am
Cincy kept bringing pressure with 5,6 and even 7 guys but Knapps play calling was to wait for our lousy receivers to get open instead of calling a screen or a draw play
November 26th, 2012 at 1:55 am
Hiring new coordinators might be the way Reggie goes. If Reggie want to try that, and keep DA, then fine…
…if Reggie let’s DA keep the current st coach and knapp, then mark Davis should fire up the old power point presentation and fire Reggie for cause.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:55 am
He started calling screens and draw plays in second half , is he just too slow to make adjustments? and then keep running the same play that worked over and over until the D makes a play on it , and they he scraps that play off the book for the rest of the game
November 26th, 2012 at 1:57 am
Dakota Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:55 am
Hiring new coordinators might be the way Reggie goes. If Reggie want to try that, and keep DA, then fine…
…if Reggie let’s DA keep the current st coach and knapp, then mark Davis should fire up the old power point presentation and fire Reggie for cause
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New OC, new St coach, new DL coach, LB coach , and secondary coach is the way to go, I’m okay with Tarver and DA
November 26th, 2012 at 2:01 am
if u pay attention to what DA is saying, “they need to execute better”. he means it’s not the scheme, it’s the players. he won’t come out and say they suck, obviously. but he is blaming the players. he’s saying they’re not getting it done. asked if they have the talent to succeed, he says “i think so.” not very high praise.
November 26th, 2012 at 2:03 am
dr_robert Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:01 am
if u pay attention to what DA is saying, “they need to execute better”. he means it’s not the scheme, it’s the players. he won’t come out and say they suck, obviously. but he is blaming the players. he’s saying they’re not getting it done. asked if they have the talent to succeed, he says “i think so.” not very high praise.
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true, our highest paid lineman kelly and seymour ain’t doing nothing
November 26th, 2012 at 2:07 am
Groundhog Day…
November 26th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:09 am
I knew that Palmer would lead ur to massive failure. Max 20, aig, jfb, jb, ghost, Alex,sully,dj Johnny, lofty, lefty , bay2la, raider Dave, gradkowski raiser , Kirk, & million others screamed instant upgrade.
Well is 7-14 & 35 turnovers an upgrade?!?!?
If you think so then upgrade your own mind & football acumen
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WTF DID DRE KIRKPATRICK DO?
1 freakin tackle. Palmer was a bad pick – BUT WHAT QB WAS THERE. You caught Jason Campbell’s act in S.F. ,right?
for the FOUR MILLIONTH TIME – Here is who we had to choose from
Melvin Ingram
She McClellin
Kendall Wright
Chandler Jones
Brandon Weeden – you’re telling me – Weeden is better than Campbell
Riley Reiff – beaten like a drum at OT this season for GB
David DeCastro – hurt already
Dont’a Hightower – we already had McClain
Whitney Mercilus – Texas already has a stout pass rush
Doug Martin – thats the guy we couldve had – and we already had DMC
the only other QB was Russell Wilson and he was taken in the 3rd.
Now, as for next years 2nd that we dont get
projected 2nd rounders
Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida
Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St.
Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee
Robert Woods, WR, Southern Cal – i’d argue thats a tough pick to miss at 36-39th overall
Desmond Trufant, CB, Wash – another shutdown CB we couldve used with the Palmer pick
Zac Dysert, QB, Miami (Ohio)
Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma St. (think Kendall Hunter of Niners)
i mean, we wouldnt have the ONE impact player which is Doug Martin – and we wont even know until next year how the rookie would impact us.
stop crying over the Carson Palmer deal
we didnt miss out on Luck, RGIII or nothing else – there was no magical rookie coming that was changing the misfortune of a decade of bad draft picks, coaching turnover and horrific contracts and free agents.
THE END
November 26th, 2012 at 2:11 am
according to DA, the bengals rush and palmer being under duress is why palmer’s numbers suffered. duh.
the jokers on here who criticize palmer would be laughed outta the room by any nfl insider.
November 26th, 2012 at 2:12 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:57 am
Dakota Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:55 am
Hiring new coordinators might be the way Reggie goes. If Reggie want to try that, and keep DA, then fine…
…if Reggie let’s DA keep the current st coach and knapp, then mark Davis should fire up the old power point presentation and fire Reggie for cause
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New OC, new St coach, new DL coach, LB coach , and secondary coach is the way to go, I’m okay with Tarver and DA
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anybody get the fact that even if they fire Allen, NO TOP TIER coach is coming here, because they’ll have more expectation and still even more habitual dysfunction to sort through?
November 26th, 2012 at 2:13 am
– Coach Dennis Allen speaks with the media Monday at 1 p.m. in his weekly news conference.
The interview everyone is eager to hear and read is the one scheduled Friday with general manager Reggie McKenzie.
It should be interesting to hear what McKenzie has to say on the heels of his team’s fourth straight loss, with the coach he fired on the opposing sideline Sunday high-fiving his new players, and the Raiders far less competitive this season than they were when he assumed the new role in January.
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Nobody wil ask them these questions or if they regret firing Hue now, so don’t bother reporting it Cork.
November 26th, 2012 at 2:44 am
There must be someone somewhere sitting on a couch that’s better than Matt Giordano, I mean WTF?
He’s not even close to an NFL caliber player.
November 26th, 2012 at 3:41 am
alex7 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:18 am
the reasons Vegas had us at 4-6 wins this year..
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Vegas had us at 4-6 wins ?
Wrong. You’re just making stuff up and don’t know what you’re talking about.
Vegas had us at 7 wins.
You will never see a difference of 3 games in projected season wins for an NFL team from one book to another. You can check every sportsbook in existence and you won’t find that.
If you think you could bet an NFL team to win 4 games or more in one establishment and 7 games or less in another, you’re out of touch with reality and don’t know the first thing about Vegas or futures bets.
November 26th, 2012 at 4:13 am
Dakota Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:22 am
I know we had an easy schedule last year, and a very easy schedule the year before that, and that we lost one talented pass player, wimbley, in the offseason, and that we had zero cap space to work with and hardly any draft picks.
That is all true, but it does not excuse the level of play we are seeing on the field this year. Sure, losing wimbley and having a more difficult schedule might have resulted in more lOsses, but it simply does not justify or excuse the garbage product we have seen on the field, really since the first preseason game. That is on the coaching staff.
This is the 21st century, the era of parity, and yet with this coaching staff we are setting records for futility.
No the coaches are not 100% to blame…the players are responsible for this mess too, but anyone who looks at this team and thinks this coaching staff has the ability to turn this around is simply fooling themselves, and will be deeply disappointed at the results once this staffs time is up.
They have shown no ability to have the team prepared to play on a weekly basis. We simply have not improved one bit, even from the preseason. Reggie fked up, not in firing hue Jackson, that had to be done, but in his first choice of a head coach. Reggie can either cut bait, or he can let DA and this staff drag him down with them. The choice is his.
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Tits is an Udder Failure.
Just dismissing Krapp is not sufficient.
The entire staff will likely have to go.
There’s no way DA and his staff of clowns can be allowed to return in 2013 if this team continues to get BLOWN OUT on a weekly basis.
You needn’t worry about looking dysfunctional or finding someone to come here.
I assure you that coaching professionals thoroughly understand (and accept) that failing on the scale that this staff has, results in prompt dismissal.
I also assure you that there are plenty of qualified candidates that would welcome the opportunity to coach even the most abysmal NFL team and will not be afraid of taking on our challenging situation.
The ‘dysfunctional’ and ‘no one will come here’ arguments used as justifications for retaining the Udder Failure are pure balderdash.
Tits gets the rest of the season to show ANYTHING in the way of improvement or to just stop getting annihilated on a weekly basis.
If he can’t manage to do that – he’s got to go – and there’s no ‘ifs, ands, or buts’ about it.
November 26th, 2012 at 4:47 am
And also: “It is a wise person who seeks the counsel of many.” Bible Proverb.
One of my favs also. I love telling people who think they are smart that “a wise man seeks a multitude of counselours”
November 26th, 2012 at 4:50 am
Coach Dennis Allen speaks with the media Monday at 1 p.m. in his weekly news conference.
The interview everyone is eager to hear and read is the one scheduled Friday with general manager Reggie McKenzie.
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here is what I expect to hear from both of them “it’s disappointing. we’re going to look at everything and continue fighting. this team is not going to give up. we will improve and try our best to make this football team display results our fans will be satisfied with”
expect something vague & general. basic even. no details. just a promise of better “effort”
November 26th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Even if Knapp, Tarver & Hoffman got fired today, Raider fans would not be satisfied… which is why that will not happen
Allen could handle the defensive play calling while Saunders takes the offense. hire a ST coach off the street or let the ST assistant (Burns?) take over.
Results would likely be the same imo
November 26th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Alex7 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
The good stuff from last thread:
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I see that reasonable posters, Vegas, ESPN, and various media people who un-emotionally study this stuff KNEW the Raiders had 4 to 6 win talent.
And that’s what they are on par for.
What specifically did Dennis Allen fail to achieve that he was SUPPOSED to achieve in one year? He’s reduced the penalties and lost to playoff teams like the Ravens, Saints, Falcons, Broncos, and Bengals.
Yawn. It’s a 3-year process.
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Why exactly does this “3 year process” have to go from almost making the playoffs to being the 3rd worst team in the league? If that’s part of the process if say they’re applying the wrong damed process!
November 26th, 2012 at 4:55 am
Last night was the ultimate short of the sticks throw.
fourth and 29, game over if you miss.
so throw a one yard pass, what an idiot, oh wait, 30 yard gain.
But who throws short of the sticks on third down let alone fourth?
EVERYONE
November 26th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 25th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Miss Tick, not only are your opinions predictible, so is your timing.
8:44pm 8:52pm 8:59pm 9:03pm 9:12pm 9:19pm 9:28pm 9:39pm 9:47pm. So it takes an average of what,8 minutes or so, for you to reword the same tired crap and repost?
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Best post of the night.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:08 am
So, it’s confirmed. Reggie is talking to the media. I thought that was just some nonsense made up by a troll.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:12 am
Our top 3 WRs next year will be:
Criner
Moore
a player yet determined
November 26th, 2012 at 5:14 am
I was disappointed to see Allen not yelling at the refs yesterday.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:17 am
Draft Watch: Raiders currently sit at #4 with a chance to enter a 4 way tie for #3 if Panthers win tonight.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:27 am
Another embaressment for the Wave of the Future tonight, one playing meaningless last placed football on national TV, the other on the sidelines from cocunut damage.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:36 am
JFB, do yo think anyone will be fired or demoted this week?
November 26th, 2012 at 5:38 am
All the talking heads picked Raiders to finish last in the afc west with 5 or under wins.
I thought they had lost their minds like the rest of the world.
bummer but on a good note I stand a slim chance of making the playoffs in Dells FFL
November 26th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour, kicker Sebastian Janikowski, and punter Shane Lechler were all 2011 Pro Bowlers. Safety Tyvon Branch, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, running back Darren McFadden and fullback Marcel Reece were all been named Pro Bowl alternates.
Coaching matter!
November 26th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Opening line is Cleveland -1 on Sunday.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:50 am
JFB, do yo think anyone will be fired or demoted this week?
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Tarver should be canned, mainly because DA can call the plays.
You can’t fire other coaches and bring UP someone from below the ranks to call plays. Never works, players check out immediately.
Most NFL in-season fires happen at the bye week.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Derek Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour, kicker Sebastian Janikowski, and punter Shane Lechler were all 2011 Pro Bowlers. Safety Tyvon Branch, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, running back Darren McFadden and fullback Marcel Reece were all been named Pro Bowl alternates.
Coaching matter!
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Seymour made the Pro Bowl on his name. It was undeserved. Kelly has always been overrated, as is Branch. Lechler and Jano don’t need coaching.
November 26th, 2012 at 5:54 am
The only people who think the Raiders are a talented team are on this blog.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:02 am
LOL at Pro Bowl alternates.
I think Vince Young was a Pro Bowl alternate two years before he was out of the league.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I hate when Cork said that “it didn’t cost them the game”…How the F do you know! That was still in the 3rd and it would have been only a 10 pt deficit from there!
However…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:06 am
And someone explain wy Huston was ejected? I understand Tommy Kelly, but why 99?
November 26th, 2012 at 6:07 am
And was Darren McFadden really a Pro Bowl alternate even though he missed half the season?
Pro Bowls are a shame. All-Pro selections are the only post season honor worth the price of the paper it is printed on.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:11 am
The only reason I can think of for Houston’s ejection was the hit on Dalton… Which I didn’t think was blatant or excessive…… Bogus… Late?… Maybe a little.. But I didn’t see Houston slam Dalton… Bad call…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:13 am
I think Houston threw a punch too. I saw Bryant punching Whitworth in the ribs, but he didn’t get caught.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:14 am
WAS I THE ONLY 1 THAT SAW BRYANT THROWING UPPERCUTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GROUP HUG..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Just watch, 3 d-linemen will be suspended next game, and Seymour will still be injured. That will be fun to watch.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Dirt-Lot, I saw it.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:15 am
ABP,U SAW THAT 2 HUH..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Lol… Yep.. I saw Bryant’s punches… Didn’t see Houston throw any blows… But that doesn’t mean he didn’t..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:18 am
3 year process for Special Teams too then.
Right.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:19 am
You guys think the league will suspend Kelly and Houston?…or just fine them… Or both …
I’d suspect a big fine at least…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Lechler is lovin it. Getting out and gonna get paid. He put in his dues and ready to cash the F out!
November 26th, 2012 at 6:20 am
MAKES U WONDER WHAT WILL COME DOWN AFTER THE LEAGUE WATCHES THE FILM..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Look on the bright side, we have 5 months to ponder the draft. Unfortunately it is a weak year for QBs, not that it is a high priority for us this year but it makes it easier to trade down.
It is a tough call to pass up a potentially great player for extra picks but I think that is what McKenzie should do.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I remember back this summer wishing the season were here….. It’s here… And it sucks..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:22 am
MarcusAllen Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Lechler is lovin it. Getting out and gonna get paid. He put in his dues and ready to cash the F out!
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I saw Lechler laughing it up with Dalton after the game. I don’t think he cares anymore.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Houston came off the bench that’s why he was ejected
November 26th, 2012 at 6:23 am
I can’t wait for the off season. It’s going to be a lot more interesting than watching these games.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:24 am
I saw some lakers yukking it up on the court during the game.
Should we fire the coaches again or the players?
November 26th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Twocents… Agree… This team needs to many positions filled…. You can close your eyes and point and find a weak spot on this team…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:24 am
What teams need a punter next year? I can see Lechler signing with someone like the Patriots.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:26 am
MarcusAllen Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Lechler is lovin it. Getting out and gonna get paid. He put in his dues and ready to cash the F out!
Shane has always been paid well the best in the league.
His pay will be less no matter where he goes
November 26th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Yep… Lechler knows he’s gone after the season ends…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:26 am
We need just about one of everything.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Houston came off the bench that’s why he was ejected
No, Kelly came off the bench, so I undersatnd that one…Maybe Houston did throw some punches…who knows!
November 26th, 2012 at 6:29 am
It would have been just if Andy Dalton got his shoulder separated on that sack. The Bengal fans would have been wishing they could get Palmer back.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:29 am
10-4 Houston was just defending himself after tossing ginger on her butt
November 26th, 2012 at 6:30 am
HOUSTON WAS TOSSED BECAUSE OF HIS HAIR..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Houston’s one of the few players I hope stays on Defense… Wheelers another…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I think the ref who blew that whistle should have been tossed! LOL
November 26th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Houston’s hair… Lol… Saw that dye job while they were escorted out …..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:34 am
AGREE FINGERS..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:34 am
The whistle … What the hell was that Ref watching… Way early..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:35 am
It wasn’t the ref that was standing right over the ball either, he had it right.
It was some dude from 20 yards away that blew it dead. Complete clown call.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:36 am
CONSPIRICY PEOPLE WILL RUN WITH THAT ONE..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:37 am
BTW, I don’t think anyone will be suspended, maybe TK if anyone for leaving the bench but I doubt it.
You can literally shoot at people in this league (Rolando, Merriweather, Talib) and not get suspended.
They threw out Houston to try to calm the situation as much as possible. They threw out Whitworth as well, didn’t see any punches from him either. Tough to throw punches when you are face first in the turf.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Yep… Another bad call…. And this team isn’t good enough to overcome bad calls…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Fortunately for the Raiders, it didn’t cost them the game. It did cost them a chance to get back in the game and have an outside shot at a comeback. They deserved that chance.
Look for this rule to be one of several that gets changed in the offseason.
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No they are asking the Raiders to play the refs too. This team needs all the help it can get, not people to play against.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Raiderbuck… Agree…. This team isn’t very good when calls go our way… Let alone calls that go against them …. Just not a lot of talent…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:42 am
The announcers were saying there was like 4 people that came off the bench for the bungles. They didn’t get thrown out. Refs sucked all day long.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:42 am
This is easily the worst raider team I have ever seen. 2006 B&B has been eclipsed.
I’ve watched football all my life and its evident that all teams have talent. Coaching is the difference in winning and losing. This staff should be fired today. Please Reggie, admit you made a huge error and can DA on The Monday following the loss to the chargers.
Thank you.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I was expecting some kind of fire from Allen…but…
November 26th, 2012 at 6:45 am
SPEAKING OF ANNOUNCERS,TASKER NEEDS TO GET A JOB..GOOD GRIEF.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Who gives a shlt about a blown call. It was 24-0 at half time. This team was just going through the motions right from the beginning of the game. Coaching staff is pathetic, period.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Carl… Same here… And I’ve seen them all… This is the worse Raider team in my opinion…. I’m a eastbay native…. Never seen a worse team… It’s at least a rival for worst
November 26th, 2012 at 6:45 am
and DHB…wth? Catch the darn ball!!!
I tell ya…not going to the Cleveland game! Gotta work this weekend, and even if we finish the job Saturday night…I’m gonna just relax with the fam! Who knows, we may even see our first black out!
November 26th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I DONT WANT GRUDEN BACK,BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FUN TO WATCH DURING/AFTER THAT SH$T YESTERDAY
November 26th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Me too, Dirt Lot!
November 26th, 2012 at 6:49 am
As crappy as this team is, playing a playoff team on the road to a 10-10 draw in the second half is a good sign in my mind, that they were willing to compete for their coach or other players.
Nobody would have batted an eye if we got outscored 24-3 in the 2nd half as well. We generated 3 straight 3 and outs, and should have had a defensive TD on top of it.
I was pleasantly suprised with that. We will see if there is any carryover into the Browns game.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:49 am
I’m expecting a blackout next weekend…. That product is horrible….$300 to 350 to watch that?… Nope…..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:51 am
I liked Gruden as well… But he’s not gonna come back… Just don’t see it…..
November 26th, 2012 at 6:52 am
JFB… They did show signs of life in that 2nd half….
November 26th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Reggie played football, he knows if players have tuned out their coach and staff.
And he knows that if they have, they will just go through the motions until seasons end. And as a GM you can’t have that, because going through the motions makes you more susceptible to injuries, that at this stage of the season could carryover into the beginning of next season.
I am sure The Reggie is looking for this last month of the season, to see if the team responds to Coach Allen like they did when the team was 3-8 under Cable and went into Pittsburgh and beat them.
Everyone is fighting for their jobs, and let’s see if they fight or cower.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:56 am
I like that JFB…everyone is fighting for thier jobs! Literally! I think that was the highlight of the day! My friend who stayed over from Saturday night party, my roomate, my wife and heck, even my son was yelling…Fight, Fight, Fight!!! LOL
November 26th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Yep… Reggie wants to see who’s still playing and who’s mailing it in ….
November 26th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Players SHOULD know, there is no given in this league year to year.
They can’t get cut by a last placed team, and just say to the leauge, it was them not me.
Sometimes it flys, most times it won’t. And at best guys like TK and others, will get a massive paycut with an end of the year tank job and release.
FIGHT!!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 6:58 am
I HOPE UR RIGHT JFB..WHEN DOES MCKENZIE START MAKING “STATEMENTS” BY CUTTING GUYS LOOSE..
November 26th, 2012 at 7:06 am
WHEN DOES MCKENZIE START MAKING “STATEMENTS” BY CUTTING GUYS LOOSE..
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When it makes business sense I would imagine.
I would not at all be suprised if Tarver was canned right after DA’s conference call today (do it after so you don’t have to answer any questions on it).
November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Jerry…actually the 2012 Raiders are worst than the 1997 and 2006 teams.
This team is losing games by an average of 12.5 points, the 1997 average was 5 and in 2006 was 10.
In fact, by that standard, this is the worst Raiders team since 1961.
But yeah, Coaching, if you can call it that, has nothing to do with it.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 am
McKenzies presser will be real interesting…. Wish we didn’t have to wait till Friday to hear his thoughts
November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 am
I am looking forward to hearing what Reg has to say Fri.
I don’t know why I am, because I imagine it will be the same ol BS we get from DA but a guy can hope.
I certainly dont expect him to throw anyone under the bus, but some passion from anyone in management would be a plesant surprise.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Have a nice day folks, I belive in Reggie, DA not so much.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Don’t wins count the most Bob?
I am not interested in some new age fandangle stat to measure things.
Wins to losses, winning %.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:09 am
* believe.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Your belief is based in wishful thinking.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:11 am
If the last four games are indicative of the type of “disciplined defense” that DA was to bring to the Raiders he needs to be fired immediately,
From Elias: The Raiders have allowed 169 points over their last four games. That is the second highest four-game total in the NFL since its merger with the AFL in 1970.
Oh, man the state of this team is much, much worse than we expected. When they were 3-4 there was much hope for these last four games and yet we got this instead? Unbelievable.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:11 am
JFB.
Whatever dude, we beat Jax at its worst and KC, hoooray!.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Later.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Mumbles presser will be a snooze fest full of BS.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:12 am
I’m not impressed with DA either….but I’m thinking he’s gonna be here about her year or two at least….
November 26th, 2012 at 7:13 am
( here)
November 26th, 2012 at 7:13 am
I used to believe in Santa, the Tooth fairy, Easter Bunny and the Raiders.
Gave up on everything but the Raiders eventually.
Now the only thing about the Raiders I believe is they suck.
I BELIEVE I am pissed off about the state of this team. FIRE SOMEONE already!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 7:13 am
As crappy as this team is, playing a playoff team on the road to a 10-10 draw in the second half is a good sign in my mind, that they were willing to compete for their coach or other players.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE CHING
November 26th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Whatever dude, we beat Jax at its worst and KC, hoooray!.
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years later, nobody remembers who the wins were against, just the record.
Quick, who did we beat in 2006? 1997?
November 26th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I wonder what Mark is thinking…after last weeks rant, I would figure they would come out and at least be competitive…had to wait til the 3rd to see it but…
November 26th, 2012 at 7:16 am
I had to look it up.
1997 season, we beat the equally 4-12 Dolts, the 5-11 Rams, a 7-9 Atlanta team, and amazingly an 8-8 Donkeys team.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
2006, beat the world champs after beating Matt Leinart and AZ! Got us JR…Chris Carr got a 100 yard INT return for a TD, Nnamdi got the other one! And wasn’t Andrew Walter passing yards only 16?
1997, too far to think back…getting old…
November 26th, 2012 at 7:18 am
If we can beat the Browns, Chiefs and Panthers, that would mean we end the season beating every team with a worse record than us, and losing to every team with a better record (Chargers pending I guess).
November 26th, 2012 at 7:19 am
No agent worth their salt will allow their clients to sign with this franchise after this train wreck of a inaugural season under Mumbles.
This season is a disgrace to the memory of the late great Al Davis.
MUMBLES MUST GO!
November 26th, 2012 at 7:21 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/25/3690174/officials-blow-it-ensuring-oakland-raiders-blown-out-by-cincinnati-bengals
November 26th, 2012 at 7:21 am
The Browns will blow Reggie’s rejects out.
Richardson will rush for over 200 yards.
Mumbles must go.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:23 am
If you are comparing this team to 06′…
November 26th, 2012 at 7:26 am
LOL at agents caring where players sign.
They look at the bottom line, first and only.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Wrong again, Mush.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Mush, do you honestly think they have a chance to beat the Browns?
November 26th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Vegas does, it is pretty much a push.
I will go with them, thanks.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Mumbles inherited a competitive team and turned it into a steaming pile of sh1t in record time.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:32 am
No the Raiders will die if you don’t believe hard enough just like Tinker Bell…. now clap your hands and give them all your money for this amazing entertainment the Raiders are a real football team you just have to believe… believe and be patient.. the wins are sure to come with this fantastic coaching!
November 26th, 2012 at 7:34 am
DA eats football and craps out raiders
November 26th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Unfortunately, the Raiders will never die in my mind until I die! Over 35 years of watching this team!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Mush, no wonder you are such a loser.
Anyone with a half of brain knows the Raiders have no chance against the Browns.
It will not be close.
Richardson will humiliate the Raiders D.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
What do we want to hear from Reggie?
“We’re gonna fix this”.
“This is unacceptable”
“We’re moving to LA…Mark just told me”.
????
I don’t know. It’ll probably be nothing.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Why do we put iur linemen on the wrong side of the line.?? Oh yeah.. its because our coaches are retards…
November 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
The Raiders died with Al.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Don’t forget the clipping call as well. Just a joke. These refs were worse than the replacement refs. League must look into this.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I resign.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I hope we get a confirmation today weather Allen took over defensive play calling duties.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:38 am
There should not be one person in the stands next sunday. Not one.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:39 am
It was nice to hear the announcers at least admit that they didn’t deserve those calls! But…
November 26th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Funniest thing yesterday was Kalif ‘Concrete Feet’ Barnes.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Maybe Reggie will give an hour long Power Point presentation on his ten year plan to success.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:42 am
As bad as Knapp has been and he has been pitiful, Tarver has been 10 times worse, he has sunk the Raiders D to a new low, on pace to set all kinds of records for points allowed, margin of victory you name it. He should be fired today, that would send a statement that this is unacceptable. If he isn’t fired today, that tells me the braintrust is clueless.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:42 am
With the Browns coming up, now we can talk about Campbell’s injury all week. Yeah!
November 26th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Maybe Tarver’s defense is just too advanced for the players we have. We have a bunch of dummies who are used to playing Al’s 1970s system.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:49 am
At this point these starters aren’t coming back next season, lets see how can we replace them
DHB.- too much money to a guy who can be easily replaced by Ford, Streater or even Criner.
Barnes.- one of the worst tackles in football i expect an splah FA pick up here like Sebastian Vollmer
Brisel.- a very very bad bad player Bergstrom is going to have his chance
Carlisle.- the end of the line for him, Wiz would retake his place at LG and draft Benavides or Khalen in the 4th round to play center and battle it with Parsons
On Defense
Kelly.- he is declining faster than Seymour,time for Bryant to take his place
Mclain.- I’m almost sure they going to try hard to work Burris here almost anybody can play with better instincts than the big bust Mclain, expect a big impact player in the mold of Jones or Moore to start at OLB and rush the passer in passing downs and blitzes
Giordiano.- he has regressed the most and has become in the ugliest player in football, it’s really painful, look for our 3rd round pick to take his place, i like this kid Rambo from Georgia
Lechler.- we’re not in position to pay him anymore king would replace him.
Did i mention to fire all the coaching staff? if we have 3 wins make no mistake but is for Palmer without him we would be 0-11 easy.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Barnes is a free agent thankfully.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Worst staff ever… if you want them fired. Stop showing up. Its up to the ticket holders.. our petitions to fire these àssholes does nothing. Stop paying for this shìt
November 26th, 2012 at 7:55 am
When krapp tried teaching his kid to switch from the potty to the big boy toilet the child regressed back to diapers….
November 26th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Raider( since) 1967
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Comments: Well I did not watch the game I knew that IT will have the same HORRIBLE outcome of prior weeks! In Florida it wasn’t
Televise because of the East coast DOLPHINS.
RAIDERS should hold accountable everyone on the Team and GM should begin to talk of the future of certain coaches and assistance staff .
LETS NOT WAIT TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO SEE WHO WALKS THE PLANK FIRST “
November 26th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Giordano has a nose for the ball. Of course, he dropped a pick 6 yesterday. He is Schwiegart 2.0.
November 26th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Barnes and Huff actually played decent yesterday.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Not one coach deserves to keep his job.. Total team wide regression..
November 26th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Raider (since) 1967
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Good morning Cork-Good morning RAIDERNATION!
LOVE U ALL BROTHERS!
Stick toghether and remember this is not going to “”LAST FOREVER ” Not even the ROMAN EMPIRE!
This will soon come to an END !
November 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I know this stat means nothing, but the Raiders are only averaging 25 yards less per game than last years team. Yesterday’s performance dropped them from #10 offense to #15 in the league.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:06 am
2011 Raiders: 22.4 pts per game
2012 Raiders: 19.8 pts per game
November 26th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Matt millen is killing us with his hires.. start firing coaches you fat fùck!!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:08 am
The Patriots are averaging 37 pts per game.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:09 am
That stat does mean nothing…. Garbage yards and garbage points in garbage minutes when we are being blown out don’t count for shìt with me
November 26th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I’m not sure how Offensive Lines are ranked. But the Raiders O-Line is ranked #14. I thought it would be much lower.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:11 am
The defense has given up 32.4 pts per game.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:12 am
The Bed and Breakfast offense only averaged 10.5 pts. per game.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:13 am
People who say Knapp is worse than the 2006 offense need to shut up. That was probably one of the worst offenses in NFL history.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Raider (since) 1967
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RAIDERNATION STICK TOGETHER AND BLOG TOGETHER !
POLL AND TELL -( CORK ) WHAT WE SUGGEST AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE OAKLAND DO!
PLEASE CORK: LET THE ADMS.-KNOW FOR US!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Knapp didnt coach the 06 offense.. totally different players too. But yes i think knapp may be slightly better than the retired owner of a b&b.. but compared to actual nfl coaches who earned their jobs… hes pretty weak.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Ouch, losing sucks! Thanks for the super article Steve, I enjoyed reading! Well, I am not surprised about the way my Raiders are playing. I posted time and time again, that if Denver signs martian head Manning, we are screwed. I knew Manning would be the answer that the Donkeys were looking for.
I am happy to have Reggie as our GM but he is making a huge mistake trying to make my Raiders into a “poorman” Packers team. The Raiders are suppose to be like the “Lakers of football”(figuratively speaking), bringing in players that will help us at least make the playoffs. I will never give up on my Raiders but we must get quality coaches in our camp.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:21 am
So Friday is the Reggie media Q&A?….anyone know if there will be an interpreter? One that translates retard into English? Hopefully if CSN broadcasts it there will be subtitles like on those swamp people reality shows.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Not one coach deserves to keep his job
November 26th, 2012 at 8:22 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
What do we want to hear from Reggie?
“We’re gonna fix this”.
“This is unacceptable”
“We’re moving to LA…Mark just told me”.
????
I don’t know. It’ll probably be nothing.
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• knapp is demoted to parking lot attendee
• marks hair is not a wig despite rumors
• DA will stray from the course
• Reggie has opened dialogue with Hue Jackson
• expect good things from Santa
• new stadium deal almost ready to sign off on
• peace to all brothers and sisters. Love will prevail.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Just think how terrible the AFC West would be if Manning signed with the 49ers or Cardinals. Tim Tebow would be leading a 6-5 or 5-6 team in first place.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:23 am
202.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Giordano has a nose for the ball. Of course, he dropped a pick 6 yesterday. He is Schwiegart 2.0.
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Alot of “if’s” in this game.
Sometimes drops seem to be of little consequence and we just shrug our shoulders and move on but in actuality they can turn out to be HUGE.
What if DHB catches that EASY pass for a first down? Drive continues and if we score i believe it’s 14-7. At the very least a 1st down keeps the defense off the field.
What “if” Reece catches that ball at the end of the half? At the very least we get a fg and go into halftime down 21-3 instead of 24-0..a 6 pt. turnaround.
This team can’t afford those drops and miscues.
What “if” Palmer doesn’t fumble on that sack? Huge turnaround there cuz we were at midfield. THAT was a killer; and of course the bad call from the refs that could’ve made a difference.
We still sucked to high heaven, don’t get me wrong, but if this team simply had the basic fundamentals down and didn’t make these stupid mistakes and drops things might look just a little bit different; but they don’t do those things so therefore we suck.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:24 am
I was called a chicken, for saying that Manning would cause damage in oue division. I thought I was only speaking the truth, after all no one loves my Oakland Raiders more than me.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:24 am
oops our division
November 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Game was over by halftime.
During the 1st half our D couldn’t stop the Bengals even if they knew the plays.Look for 8 new starters on D next year.
Reminded me of the Tom Cable years when the team got blown out by halftime. Out coached, out schemed, handily out executed.
This team has mailed it in.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:27 am
A recurring theme in Tarver’s defense is big time receivers left wide open in the middle of the field, easiest throw in the NFL…
November 26th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I was in the same boat goldie.. told these fools what would happen with peyton. Got hammered by these idiots… maybe the dumb monkeys get it now..
November 26th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Reggie’s record as GM, 3-13
“All we need is a “real” GM to replace AL”
Sincerely
KK & MR
November 26th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Yeah, sadly to say our Raiders have mailed it in. I guess now, the Raiders roster are looking forward to going Christmas shopping for the family. Can you blame them? We are awful.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Why did they eject Houston? I know they ejected Kelly cause he is a bum that did not want to play anymore, but Houston got attacked by the lineman. WTF?
Fumble TD? na, na, na, lets replay the down son. HOSED!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Raider (raider) since1967
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Reggie,Mark Davis, Allen, Tarver,Knapp!
“WE ARE GOING TO BRING THE BROWN PAPER BAG ”
Wear them proud and go with them to the TICKET BOOTH!
NATION -show yourselfs on TV cameras and everywere you go.
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DON’T BE AFFRAID, SHOW YOUR FEELINS ”
THIS EVENT WILL BE REMEMBER IN THE NFL FILM ACROSS
THE COUNTRY -AS THE BROWN BAG DECEPTION ” IN OAKLAND !
Same as we remember -The Immaculate conception” So will they.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:32 am
The Raiders play as if their first few posessions don’t even matter.
They always seem to be “throw away” posessions, like they’re doing a warm up or something.
Is the plan in the 1st quarter just to get acclimated to their surroundings…run a couple of throw away plays to get a feel for the defense?
Problem is the other teams are approaching it differently and are looking to go for the jugular right away while we are just “taking it slow and steady” getting our feel for the game.
By the time we are “warmed up” we’re already down 14 pt’s and scrambling to get back in it.
Every dang week it seems like this.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Barnes was awful yesterday. Do you guys remember the play in 4Q, where he just let the DE run past him to pressure Palmer. He didn’t even lay his hand on him and was clueless who he should block. That was just unreal watching the replay.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Worst season in raider history.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Yeah. Come out of a time out, draw up the play, then Barnes lets the DE a straight line at Palmer…nice play.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
I was in the same boat goldie.. told these fools what would happen with peyton. Got hammered by these idiots… maybe the dumb monkeys get it now..
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Oui, je suis d’accord, Mark.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:41 am
230.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Why did they eject Houston? I know they ejected Kelly cause he is a bum that did not want to play anymore, but Houston got attacked by the lineman. WTF?
Fumble TD? na, na, na, lets replay the down son. HOSED!
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I still don’t know what the explanation of that is.
Why in the heck do they get a choice of what to do after an inadvertant whistle?
This ‘inadvertant’ whistle crap rule means that ANYTIME they want to hose us they can literally just blow the whistle and just say “woops”, and because nobody cares about us in the media NOONE is even talking about what happened.
If this were Dallas or NE or the Jets it’d be a story.
Refs can breath a sigh of relief knowing nobody freaking cares.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:41 am
I like tell everyone blamed Bergstrom for the fumble even though Palmer didn’t audible when he saw that for sure at least 7 defenders were coming on a blitz and then he didn’t even tuck the ball when you knew he was going to take a hit from the guy in front of him or at least from the guy on the side….
November 26th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I’m glad to see we haven’t seen a single post suggesting we would’ve won that game if that call didn’t go against us. We should be outraged at the screw job for it’s own sake, but nice to see noone thinks it would have ultimately won us the game.
At least i think noone has said this here.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Mob refs… only refs without a “union” get shìt on in the media.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Loose bùtthole guys.. very loose
November 26th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Fire Titty Monkey and the Turd Monkeys.
POS staff.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
At best, we go 4-12…I think even against KC will be hard! Even at home!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Everyone should be on notice!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Don’t get too excited about the Reggie presser.
His “address” will be something along the lines of:
-No “rash” changes. Gregg Knapp is a great coach.
-DA will be given time to right the ship.
-We need to have “patience”.
-A play here or play there and it would have been a different story this season.
-We’re getting better. It just isn’t showing up on the scoreboard.
-We still have a shot at the playoffs.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Eff you Reggie. Eff you!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Who brought in the bulk of these so called players? Especially the starters
Chickens coming home to roost!
Time to pressure wash this roster of overpaid vets, bust draft picks and athletes with potential.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Watching the Raiders is like coming home to your family after working hard all week.. long tough hours.. and you sit down for Sunday dinner and your wife just takes a steaming pile of shìt on your plate and you have to smile and eat it because you’re that fùcking loyal..
November 26th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Raider (since) 1967
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Raiders and GM should Film the game and the “OFFICIAL CALLS” of the games and decision that were made and
TAKE THEM TO THE NFL COMMISIONERS OFFICE FOR REVIEW.
Have him make a decision of the CALLS in slow motion and the
Name of those official, then an answer to OAKLAND GM.
Furthermore those names will be held in THE COMMISIONERS OFFICE SECRET BOOKS and every time they afficiate OAKLANDS
games again they will again review.
If found GUILTY they will be FIRE from the NFL.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Well, obviously, a mass fire sale will not happen to at least after the season…there is no one out there that would be willing to take the reigns for 5 games!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Well, obviously, a mass fire sale will not happen to at least after the season…there is no one out there that would be willing to take the reigns for 5 games!
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And I just don’t think it would matter at this point. We are still going to lose the final 5 games.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:53 am
245.. Fùck that shìt
November 26th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Tyvon Branch is a part of the problem. That’s one signing I wish Reggie didn’t make.
He is the biggest “whiffer” of them all.
I swear these guys are playing NOT to get injured more than anything. They shy away from contact.
It looks like the only time they try to make a big tackle is when it would be embarrassing not to.
It looks like they practice the fine art of “appearing” to be trying to make a tackle, but in reality saving themselves from potential physical harm.
It’s like pro wrestling.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
We are losing by 12.5 points per gm. Worst raiders ever!! Your fùcking fired!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
-We gave a POS OL (#65) a $20 million/ 4 year deal?!
- the 26 YO rookie can’t start on the weakest OL in the league?!
- now I know why we got Wheeler so cheap. Noone wanted him, and understand why.
- most fans knew we needed a pass rusher and a CB, and Reggie signed trash (Bartell, Spencer, Lee, etc…) and signed Carter after the season started.
DA is a joke!
Tarver is not ready for the NFL.
Knapp is an idiot.
Eff them!!
November 26th, 2012 at 8:56 am
When your draft and trades are.
Buchanon, Moss, Gallery, Grove, Asomugha, Routt, JaBust, Zach Miller, Huff, deAngelo Hall, DMAC, DHB, Mike Mitchell, McClain, DVD, Barksdale, Seymour and Palmer….
You over pay for tommy kelly, gerard warren, javon walker and depend on guys like Kwame Harris to washout of the league on your team?
Your team will be over the cap, lacking in talent and 3-8.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Reggie get out.Raider Nation hates you.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:59 am
C´mon, I know McGinger inherited a mess. But WTF!? his D siginigs make Al look like Ron Wolf! Bring in someone else to evaluate DBs!!! please!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Raider (since) 1967
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If you feel that NFL REFEREES did an “INJUSTICE CALL ” PLEASE TAPE IT.!
Send to the OAKLAND RAIDERS OFFICES to be taken to the BOARD OF THE NFL COMMISSIONER by the GM
Must be a REAL INJUSTICE CALL.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Comparisons to 2 of our worst tears? Brown paper bag time in Oakland? Appears so.
DA is in over his head.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:00 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:32 am
The Raiders play as if their first few posessions don’t even matter.
They always seem to be “throw away” posessions, like they’re doing a warm up or something.
Is the plan in the 1st quarter just to get acclimated to their surroundings…run a couple of throw away plays to get a feel for the defense?
Problem is the other teams are approaching it differently and are looking to go for the jugular right away while we are just “taking it slow and steady” getting our feel for the game.
By the time we are “warmed up” we’re already down 14 pt’s and scrambling to get back in it.
Every dang week it seems like this.
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Scripting.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:00 am
SnB right you are. 8 and 8 was going to be our Super Bowl until this garbage was taken care of. Cleaning up garbage is messy ugly business
November 26th, 2012 at 9:01 am
ok guys, i was at the game yesturday and i wanna point out a few things i gathered from that horrible loss..
1- the worst player on the field was #69 barnes. guys were constantly pushing barnes down and hitting palmer. we need a real RT. the entire O-line in general looked weak and confused. palmer actually did a decent job considering how he was consantly running for his life.
2- i couldnt believe it at first but one thing that suprised me was how slow our D-line is, and it all starts with #77. Sho-nasty is fat and slow, looked like tommy kelly was slimmer and faster than him. #99 houston was holding his own and getting a consistant push, but #90 bryant beside him couldnt take advantage of that and kept getting pushed sideways EVERY play. our D-line needs some speed.
3- #21 is bad. bartell might as well have laid down every time the ball was thrown his way. it didnt matter who he was covering, if the ball came his way, they caught it. bartell allowed 14 points all by himself. huff actually played ok and stopped a.j.green on an end around that could have been a big gainer. miles burris was always around the ball on every play. he the ONLY bright spot on our defense. phillip wheeler isnt as good as advertised. he was juked out by green-ellis twice.
4- hue jackson actually controlled our guys better than denis allen when the fight broke out. allen ran out to the pile-up and started yelling at everyone. jackson ran out there and physically started pulling OUR guys off of their guys. at one point after the fight was over, a bunch of our guys were giving jackson high fives and handshakes. tyvon branch to be specific was the one giving high fives.
5- overall our team looked unprepared and confused. our biggest weakness is without a doubt our O-line. the biggest bright spot was miles burris, thats it.
6- oh and i thought i would mention how ridiculous that call was. even bengal fans around me felt bad for us after that. if we would have got the right call it would have been ruled a fumble return for a TD and brought the score to 17-27 with about 8 minutes to go. instead the refs gave them a replay on downs that immediatly resulted in the fight, then a 50 yaard bomb to green. but oh well. we suck.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:07 am
but seriously that was the worst raider loss i have witnessed first-hand. andy dalton looked soooo calm and patient in the pocket. best thing that happened to the bengals is when palmer retired. look at all they got from it!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:08 am
J-Raider,
Thanks for including jersey #’s with the last names of players or we wouldn’t have any idea who Houston or Kelly is. Secondly, the game was on TV so everything you saw because you were “there” we could see 10 times better and we could rewind our DV-R if needed.
Nice job!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
What up Green team?
November 26th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I’m so sick of reading you people’s excuses. We have cap issues, we lack talent, AL, AL, and AL is responsible for this mess.
Eff you too!
Al is responsible for this team’s lack of effort and bad coaching?
You people make me sick!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Lets just send this team to LA and change their name, then start a new franchise Raider team in Oakland.
lol
November 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Raider O,..if yooze baggin on Reg with the FU because he fired Huey,..well it wasnt him…ya dig?…look no further then Mr Silver Spoon himself, and for about 25 years he used that spoon for coke. Dont believe me ask Mike Taylor, his main coke buddy,..hence Mikes job with Raiders for life. Im right as usual.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Good morning DMAC.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Yes, our team is not 2 talented, but I strongly believe we have to have one of the worst coaching staffs in the league.
Real fk’n talk!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
What up O Dog
November 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
The biggest weakness is definitely the entire defense, the defensive line in particular. When Aldon Smith has 3 more sacks than your entire team it is time to make wholesale changes. Shaughnessy is way too slow to be a DE. He has been the single biggest disappointment. This team needs some speed rushers desperately next year. Should go with the best speed rusher available in the first round.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raider (since) 1967
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I personaly don’t Trust the NFL DRAFT.
TRULY- some say TEO is the one and others say no!
Looklng back at history and hearing everyone nation wide including MEL KIPER on ESPN and BOB CLAYTON, we should
Draft Qb JAMARCUS -but eventually was a BUST, like TEBOW!
SO- Like Al said I want to see him play in the real NFL.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I believe you Bob. Look at his hair. I also found out yesterday that he went to Chico U. I’m sure he is/ was on drugs.
Eff you too Spoon Boy!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I remember in 1988 when Mike Shanahan was ran out on a rail…was “in way over his head”,…wasnt given a chance, not much of one anyway…prolly canned him too soon ya think?…dont you all wish you guys were as smart as me? By the way the only reason Im now not wanting DA canned is because SHE told me to my face Jon was never going to return,..not due to hatred, just hes never coming back.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:20 am
The biggest weakness is our coaching staff.
Our OL regressed.
Our Defense regressed which no one thought is possible.
Our STs regressed.
Fire the Turd Monkeys, and Titty Monkey is on thin ice.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
The Raiders were in a salary cap mess to begin this offseason and short on draft picks to boot…
27 players from last year’s 53 man roster are gone and 13 of those are out of the NFL all together…Not even sure if any of the ones still in the NFL are starting anywhere…
The Free Agent signings this offseason were bargain basement players no one else wanted because there was no money to sign talent…
We have a Rookie GM, Rookie HC, Rookie DC, and OC that has failed twice now(Why in God’s name he was ever hired a second time remains a mystery to me)…
Add all of that together and you get… SH!T That is what this team is… A big pile of steaming SH!T
I have been advocating patience simply because the Raiders seem to change coaches every year. There is no stability here and no decent coaching prospects want to take the reigns…
However, if there is a better alternative out there (I would take Andy Reid or Jason Garrett at this point), it might be another year of change…
But again, don’t expect a huge upswing in 2013 under a new staff because the Raiders still face an offseason of Salary Cap problems, missing draft picks, and a team with little depth and talent.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Reggie resigned Branch, so I guess that counts as one of his guys. That means 4 of the 11 defensive starters are players he picked, Bartell, Wheeler, Burris, and Branch. Branch is the worst of the four.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Mark has been in rehab for blow at least 4 times that I know of,..all in LA Raider days when he and Mike Taylor cruised the Strip together,…believe it or not Cliff Branch ran with them too,…hey it was the 80`s, who didnt do blow?
November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Sooooooo, all of sudden a year later…..
Our Dline sucks???? We were 2nd in overall sacks last season.
WTF happened?
Basically the same D-line minus Kam.
Our coaching is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring back Wauffle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Mr. Prez,
I can’t tolerate this crap anymore. The worst coaching staff since the B&B team.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
At best, we go 4-12…I think even against KC will be hard! Even at home!
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Sadly for them, the game against us will be like the Super Bowl for KC. They will come to play. Im not so sure that the Raiders will.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Al Davis looked pretty goofy and eccentric for an NFL owner. Only the Raiders could be inherited by someone even goofier looking than Al.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I would love to see the whole entire org give a massive apology presser to the Nation! But it won’t happen! At least spoon boy apologized! Whether that was real or not, at least it was made!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Not that it mattered though…
November 26th, 2012 at 9:33 am
keep da reggie and the new promotion will be buy 1 ticket get three free….Amy talk some sense into him…
November 26th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Mark, Reggie, and DA should do a weekly TV show broadcast from Mark’s living room. They could just hang out, eat pizza, and have chat. Eddie Money could drop by sometimes.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider(since) 1967
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The NFL DRAFT – are 80% rookies that are like MAMAS BOY
They have to be TEACHED ALL OVER AGAIN and they make
All sort of mistake, if you don’t believe me look at -
STEVE SPURRIER’s face!
SO the more you get the more you slip on $hit !
Then they must understand your playbook and then make it work. Then to the NFL.
Some of them run so hard, and jump in front of their CHEERLEADERS and in front of the NCAA STADIUM CROWD.
They look like HEROS OR GODS!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:42 am
10 and then!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Well…….
At least I still have a playoff team in the Dubs to watch this season.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:47 am
do any of you losers have jobs or do you sit and wait for Cork to post so you can pretend you have a social life?
November 26th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Alswingman Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:47 am
do any of you losers have jobs or do you sit and wait for Cork to post so you can pretend you have a social life?
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I’m at work right now.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Been at work since 7:30
You?
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alswingman Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:47 am
do any of you losers have jobs or do you sit and wait for Cork to post so you can pretend you have a social life?
November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Truth.
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DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Well…….
At least I still have a playoff team in the Dubs to watch this season.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
There is currently no line on the Browns Raiders game right now which means they are guessing a change at QB could be that we let Pryor play this week.
I sure do hope that TP6 tackling and Special Teams play is better than Palmer!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
No it means they are waiting to see if DA, Knapp, or Tarver get axed. Maybe even Reggie. Palmer isn’t sitting!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
There is currently no line on the Browns Raiders game right now which means they are guessing a change at QB could be that we let Pryor play this week.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I would like to give credit to DA and our special teams coach for turning Taiwan into an excellent special teams player.
lol
November 26th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Alswingman Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:47 am
do any of you losers have jobs or do you sit and wait for Cork to post so you can pretend you have a social life?
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I’ve been at work for several hours. I HAVE been posting, but on a different (and moderated) Raiders message board. Too many idiots like Oakfoshow and Fangs, and Steve just sticks his head in the sand and pretends like nothing’s the matter.
I WOULD post the name of the other board, but my posts are erased when I do so.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:57 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
No it means they are waiting to see if DA, Knapp, or Tarver get axed. Maybe even Reggie. Palmer isn’t sitting!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
There is currently no line on the Browns Raiders game right now which means they are guessing a change at QB could be that we let Pryor play this week.
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They are probably waiting to see if Whedon or McCoy is going to play. Whedon suffered a concussion yesterday.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Start Pryor, pick-up up a couple receivers from the lingerie league and maybe one of those bench-pressing chimpanzees to play defense.
Because if we are going to be the laughing stock of the league, we might as well embrace it and run with it.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
“No it means they are waiting to see if DA, Knapp, or Tarver get axed. Maybe even Reggie. Palmer isn’t sitting!”
Yeah I did not think of that one thanks
November 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Norv Turner back in Oakland are kidding me!!Someone wants to recycle and old Raider HC and make him an Raider OC. I don’t envision Norv helping this team. They are suppose to have better talent on the Chargers and he can’t get them over the hump and he has been there for years.
Last year the Raiders made it an interesting up until the last game of the regular season.It was an exciting season with hope for the future. Now, this season some Raiders fan were telling us to be patient 4 game into the season because of inept coach and player coordination constructed by Reggie. They tell the Raider fans 8-8 for two seasons is easy to come by.They want us to believe a respectable Raiders team with Hue was all smoke and mirrors. What magic will they drum up to sway us that failure in all aspect of the game today is in the best interest of the Raiders future?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Check the calibre of teams the Raiders are playing this year vs last 2 yrs. This was pointed out in detail yesterday.
DA and his staff are junk to be sure. No crime if they are fired at years end.
But to think a team with THIS roster is anything but junk is optimistic.
Kam Wimbley was gettin $11M. Routt was gettin $20M. Not to mention bloated paychecks to Carson, Seymour, Kelly, Huff and Branch (that one is on Reg).
You can’t make any free agent moves! You can’t get difference makers. Fortunately for the Raiders, it was easy to jettison Routt (out of the league) and Wimbley (role player with 1 pass rush move) and not bat an eye.
Get real! This roster is one of the worst in the league and there is no smoke and mirrors THIS YEAR to cover up the mess.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Yes, I’m a Gio fan, but he really shouldn’t be seeing the field so much. He’s a back up and should ONLY be on the field as a back up.
WTF were they thinking, when they axed Lee and moved Huff to corner?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Raider (since) 1967
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Some of you Dudes think the NFL DRAFT is going go safe our WORLD in OAKLAND ,well NOT SO FAST, NOT SO FAST!
OTHERS- call for MANTI TEO-( ND) like the MASIAH.
Then when those kids get hurt or break something its over.,
We call them names and they get acustom of LOW RAIDERS LAZY ATTITUDE and then when they figure out they are paid and rich they don’t play and they are always like A McFadden, Taiwan,Seymore and others.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I lost a lot of money yesterday it was a strange week for betting. I have been kicking ass all year then BAM I lost almost everything I bet yesterday.
That game last night didn’t go over it sat at 48 points all 4th quarter killed me and my parlays yesterday!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
If I was in charge (which I’m not)..- would have brought in Gilbride from the Giants.
He’s making Kevin Boothe have a productive career.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:08 am
308.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
If I was in charge (which I’m not)..- would have brought in Gilbride from the Giants.
He’s making Kevin Boothe have a productive career.
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I thought the only reason that Kevin Boothe was let go was b/c he didn’t fit the ZBS? He is a big dude and the ZBS guards are smaller and quick?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Raider( since) 1967
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Don’t count only on the DRAFT, NO!
If you do we going to see these KIDS
LIKE- THE CAT THAT ATE THE CANARY!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Reggie should be sweeping a barbershop with KK.
Record as GM
3-13
November 26th, 2012 at 10:12 am
RaiderDuck Says: I WOULD post the name of the other board, but my posts are erased when I do so.========
SandBPride, Tafurs, CBS Sports, Bleacher report, who?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:12 am
RaiderDuck Says: I WOULD post the name of the other board, but my posts are erased when I do so.========
SandBPride, Tafurs, CBS Sports, Bleacher report, who?
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Let’s try it this way and see if they erase the post:
raider
fans
dot
net
November 26th, 2012 at 10:14 am
It’s criminal that a league worth billions can’t supply competent officiating…The screw job against Detroit on Turkey Day then horrible calls against us two series in a row yesterday…We should have been down 7 pts (or 4 if we got a FG the series before) with over 7 mins left on the clock…Those bonehead refs ruined what should have been a barn-burner finish.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Didn’t I tell ya’ll, Raiders were better off playing w/ the replacements refs.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Yup, that one uusally disappers on me too!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Criner is out best wide receiver.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
W’s off until Thursday?
WTF
1/2 game out of 1st place and looking down on the Lake show….it’s a great time out….MF’er!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
#315: Right you are DMAC…and to think these tools held out for more money…CFL refs are just as good…and that’s really bad.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Yeah I know we’ve moved along, but………
What if Huey was brought back for another season, w/ his own DC?
What would the season look like 2day??
I doubt we would be 3-7 or whatever we are.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
You guys see Dez Bryant throwing body blows????
lol
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Not sure if we would have been too much better DMAC…
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
according to sources Dennis Allen will be released today and will be replaced by OC Greg Knapp
@victafur
2mins ago
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Not sure if we would have been too much better DMAC…
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Really??
I don’t know about that1
November 26th, 2012 at 10:26 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
according to sources Dennis Allen will be released today and will be replaced by OC Greg Knapp
@victafur
2mins ago
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WTF???
November 26th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Raider (since) 1967
★★★★★★★★★★
Reggie and Allen
If we keep KNAPP for
2 Yrs -0-32 loses
November 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Knapp = The DMAC Killer!!!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
just effin with ya’ll, imagine?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Not sure if we would have been too much better DMAC…
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Really??
I don’t know about that1
We had an exciting team but they were never really that good as advertised! I mean…would Reggie still would have made cuts to save cap?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Kirk Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Criner is out best wide receiver.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<????????????????
Think you may be right Lirk. Streeter not too far behind. Moore has great hands but seems to have regressed. Dhb is, well, dhb…
November 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I lost a lot of money yesterday it was a strange week for betting. I have been kicking ass all year then BAM I lost almost everything I bet yesterday
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me too man, i went 4 and 1 3 weeks straight then 1 and 4 yesterday. the silver lining is the boys really ganged up on that bengal LT!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:32 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Not sure if we would have been too much better DMAC…
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Really??
I don’t know about that1
We had an exciting team but they were never really that good as advertised! I mean…would Reggie still would have made cuts to save cap?
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Yeah, but DA is trying 2 run a scheme that isn’t fitting w/ our players.
Its like having outfielders playing the infield and infielders playing the outfield.
Wrong system for the team right now, is what I’m trying to say.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:33 am
I think a 1st year expansion team would kick our asses right about now.
Real fk’n talk!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:34 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I lost a lot of money yesterday it was a strange week for betting. I have been kicking ass all year then BAM I lost almost everything I bet yesterday
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me too man, i went 4 and 1 3 weeks straight then 1 and 4 yesterday. the silver lining is the boys really ganged up on that bengal LT!
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Heres the solution for that fellas.
Just bet big against the Raiders every week.
Problem solved.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Yeah, but DA is trying 2 run a scheme that isn’t fitting w/ our players.
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more important than that tho, guys just aren’t playing hard for the guy. remember last week of the season v kc when cable was the coach? we beat the chiefs down for pride. last year had two games (lions and SD) where we win we’re in. It’s tough bein a Raider fan
November 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Raider (since) 1967
★★★★★★★★★
Somebody ask MADDEN ON MNF if GRUDEN was the man?
He reply thats the man alright!
GRUDEN IS THE MAN!
PAID THE DUDE WHATEVER
LICK HIS P__ __ __ __ !
Get the picture!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
If there was a time for our coach to stand the fk up and fight for his team. The time was right yesterday.
Instead, he just stood there shaking his head.
I would of went stupid on those refs after back to back blown calls.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I think Omoran can definitely motivate the guys better than DA can.
“Put your pants” muthafu#kas!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
1/2 game out of 1st place and looking down on the Lake show….it’s a great time out….MF’er!
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And remember, last year was Coach Jackson’s first year and the team was drastically worse then the year before.
A great example of letting a rookie HC get his sea legs before deciding whether to can him or not.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
If there was a time for our coach to stand the fk up and fight for his team. The time was right yesterday.
Instead, he just stood there shaking his head.
I would of went stupid on those refs after back to back blown calls.
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no schit i was hoping for a nice late hit/personal foul penalty on Mike Mitchell on Daltons smiling a$$. Hue would beat DA’s a$$
November 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
according to sources Dennis Allen will be released today and will be replaced by OC Greg Knapp
@victafur
2mins ago
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This is a joke, but could result in a better choice, promote Al Saunders to OC and let Tarver prove he can be a real DC without Dennis Allen influence. All this looking to define your 2013 staff.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
1/2 game out of 1st place and looking down on the Lake show….it’s a great time out….MF’er!
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And remember, last year was Coach Jackson’s first year and the team was drastically worse then the year before.
A great example of letting a rookie HC get his sea legs before deciding whether to can him or not.
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Not sure about that one Vegas.
Mark Jackson brought along Mike Malone. (the dude that is setting up plays and pretty much running the show)
November 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I hear ya DMAC…I’m just saying that we may have had a two game better W-L…or we could be 8-3, who knows…I just think that it wouldn’t have been too much better…just my feeling!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
DA and his staff can’t coach kr motivate Players.
DA aka Titty Monkey but his staff aka Turd Monkeys have to go.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
as much as Kelly hasn’t been the complete DT, I always wanted him to taste the playoffs being that he’s been here through the rough times. Gotta believe he’s gone next year
November 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
2009 we were 3-8, dead team walking and Bruce put the team on his back, got them to fight and beat a Pittsburgh team on the road at the 10am time slot.
Someone on this team needs to do the same this year. That Steelers game is what, IMO, set forth the motion to be able to go 8-8 the next two years. Tanking the rest of the season, absolutely can not be an option.
A little self confidence and belief goes a long ways.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
DA and his staff can’t coach or motivate Players.
DA aka Titty Monkey can stay another year but his staff aka Turd Monkeys have to go.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
So if DA is calling the plays on D, do we need Tarver?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Not sure about that one Vegas.
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The team went from 10 games under .500 to 20, and was saved for that being worse due to the shortened season.
Jackson could have easily been fired at the end of last eyar.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
We fired Hue after one year as HC, so I don’t see the problem of firing DA. we were able to find a HC after we fired Hue.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
2009 we were 3-8, dead team walking and Bruce put the team on his back, got them to fight and beat a Pittsburgh team on the road at the 10am time slot.====================================
I cant disagree with this statement
I would gladly take gradkowski over what palmer has done
November 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Raider O Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
We fired Hue after one year as HC, so I don’t see the problem of firing DA. we were able to find a HC after we fired Hue.
yes, but who?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:48 am
david shaw is the answer. and seasons over, why the f isn’t pryor playing?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
David Shaw would be a good choice, but…would he take the job?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
So if DA is calling the plays on D, do we need Tarver?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Need?!
Have you been watching this BS. We don’t NEED any of these Turd Monkeys!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
When I go to the Donkeys game, I would like to see Pryor get a series or two.
I don’t expect him to start and play all game, but no reason why somehting like the 3rd series couldn’t be some scripted plays for him.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
David Shaw would be a good choice, but…would he take the job?
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wouldn’t have to move his family, $ would be better, raider ties, his talent isn’t getting any better at Stanford, why not?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
D Shaw, W Moss, and a few other young coaches were Intetested.
I’m also sure they can’t be any worse.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Will DA ever activate him? BTW: Was that linebacker who took Curry’s roster spot playing yesterday?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Do we have one high paid player on this team that deserves all that money?
November 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
David Shaw would be a good choice, but…would he take the job?
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If we are the only team calling, yes.
But we probably aren’t.
Seriously, if we fire DA, we would be on 3 coaches in 3 seasons, going into a lame duck stadium issue with no real resolution in sight, and a doofus of an owner.
The 2013 Oakland Raider HC job might be the least desired HC job in the history of sports.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:52 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
David Shaw would be a good choice, but…would he take the job?
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wouldn’t have to move his family, $ would be better, raider ties, his talent isn’t getting any better at Stanford, why not?
True!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Tarver makes me miss Chucky B, Rob Ryan, and Al.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Raider O Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
D Shaw, W Moss, and a few other young coaches were Intetested.
I’m also sure they can’t be any worse.
Was Shaw interested? But Shaw did an unbelievable job at Stanford, and he didn’t have a guy named Luck this year!
November 26th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Heres the solution for that fellas.
Just bet big against the Raiders every week.
Problem solved.
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LOL, at least someone can be optimistic.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Don’t get too excited about the Reggie presser.
His “address” will be something along the lines of:
-No “rash” changes. Gregg Knapp is a great coach.
-DA will be given time to right the ship.
-We need to have “patience”.
-A play here or play there and it would have been a different story this season.
-We’re getting better. It just isn’t showing up on the scoreboard.
-We still have a shot at the playoffs.
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He would lose all credibility with this approach. He’s going to put everybody on notice that things are going to have to change–and by change I mean win a game, show improvement–or everybody is going to be evaluated. He has no choice but to come out very forcefully.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Raider( since) 1967
★★★★★★★★★★
If I was the Raider head coach my first play,
Throw 5-8 pass on 1rst down
Bit@h at every player like -MIKE STOOP (ou) & Spurrier
November 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
You guys are such debbiee downers, just freaking check out madden rating for our team, we’re in like 60s and you guys want to beat up playoff bound teams??????? Oh we been losing big ??? when didn’t we lose big when we faced play off teams? IN GB last year? or NE at home? oh our team is worse than 06? the same year when teams just ran the ball down our throats cuz they weren’t afraid of losing the games once they went up 7-0 LMAO
November 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
If they fire the HC and bring in some puppet at the end of the year, the most popular place in Alameda will be the training room, where every non-rookie and soon to be FA will all of a sudden be nursing muscle “Strains”.
If the plan is to can the whole staff, you can’t let the players know that with games left on the schedule.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I actually like Tarver.
Maybe his plays are to complicated for our players.
Remember, we are the dumbest team in America.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:00 am
RaiderDuck. That is funny. Went to raider fan, checked my profile(joined 11 /23/08) and tried to paste thier URL here. No dice.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The Reggie can’t be too forceful at the presser, or he will put himself on the hot seat.
I think he will answer some tough questions with a little bit of tough talk to appease fans and the media, and deflect blame from his players a little.
But he can’t just say this whole thing sucks and it is a failure on every level, or Amy and Mark will meet him at the end of it and say “agree Reggie, pack your bags as well”.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hwnrdr
Didn’t you say Tedford got fired?
I wonder who’ll they be looking at for HC?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I think the 1976 expansion Bucaneers would compete w/ us 2day.
Real fk’n talk!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Hwnrdr,
Yes, Shaw was Intetested.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Keep Tarver
Bring in Shaw for HC
November 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Raider (since)1967
★★★★★★★★★
If I was the RAIDERS -HC
I WOULD FINE YOU $ 5000 after 2 penalties
SIT OR BENCH YOU FOR COSTLY MISTACKLES OR
FAILURE TO MAKE QUARTERBACK EATING DIRT.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
I don’t know what to tell you guys, and i don’t know why you guys think this all falls on the coaching , when we lost big against playoff bound teams last year as well, i don’t know if you think DA & JT is at fault if you got no pass rushers, what the eff are you going to do , we faced like 4 teams in a row , which had like atleast 2 receivers who could instantly be #1 on our teams, Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, Baltimore starters, No receivers, Cin receivers, and not to forget good passers to get them the ball , how the eff are we going to stop these guys if we can’t get to their qb with natural pressure
November 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I actually like Tarver.
Maybe his plays are to complicated for our players.
Remember, we are the dumbest team in America.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You need to stop smoking.
You like Tarver? Really? Why?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I think the 1976 expansion Bucaneers would compete w/ us 2day.
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The Jax Jaquars of this year would go 16-0 in 1976.
Your talking about 245 pound lineman back then. Marcel Reece is bigger than Dave Dalby, McClain is bigger than Lyle Alzado.
No comparision.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
After yet another embarrassing belly flop, in his home coming legacy game, carson has cemented himself as one of the all time raider trade blunders.
I dont any scenario where a gm who has suddenly found himself on the hot seat could bring this crestfallen sad sack iof qb back fro that whopping 13 million that is on the table.
Things certainly wont get ant easier on carson, with the browns up next. Im sure they have an archive on palmer being he was a former division foe.
Then 3 games in the division all of the division opponents have victimized carson with turnovers, and bludgeoned him, and feasted. Unlike the qb that preceded him who was undefeated against the division, Carson has only managed a meager 3-5 record in the afc west.
I doubt highly that carson will have a chance to even up his paltry division record or reach .500 as i cant envision him playing beyond cleveland and the bronco game.
In fact carson’s tryout has been a horrifying display of empty yardage stats, turnovers galore and failed leadership. Carson can only hope in his final fleeting appearances for the year he can have a mistake free game and get a win, so he may drum up some worth for the rest of the nfl.
Although this season has been a major improvement over last, it simply isnt good enough. This season has been a microcosm of carsons entire career. Big yardage totals, some highlight reel td passes, coupled with mind blowing game killing turnovers, sacks and mental gaffs. add in a few locker room / sideline tantrums and a dizzying losses piling up one after another.
I hope mark davis is like his pop, that presser gave me hope.
I dont think davis will sit by and let pryor sit the bench for the entire year.
Not with kapernic across the bay playing well, rgIII the hands down rookie of the year, the success of wilson, and what newton did last year.
Worry not raider fans there is still something to look forward to this year his name is TP6!!!
Where does palmer land next year?
here with majo pay cut?
another desperate nfl team that buys his empty hype?
back on the coach with a bag of doritos and lovely parting gifts from the raiders?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Chico,
Bigger and Faster, but they lack that intensity and passion.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The only sport where dudes from the 70’s would even be able to compete with today’s sports is boxing, IMO.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:14 am
The biggest blunder was made by Carolina franchise, drafted Clausen with 1st overall, then he took that franchise to #1 draft pick in 2 years, who then drafted C Newton with #1 overall , then with C Newton the team is back at draft #1 pick after 2 years again
November 26th, 2012 at 11:15 am
The ROY of the year is neck and neck right now, no clear winner.
The last month will decide that one.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:16 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hwnrdr
Didn’t you say Tedford got fired?
I wonder who’ll they be looking at for HC?
Yeah i know…HueJack back in the Bay!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Nevermind J Clausen was taken in the 2nd rd
November 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Raider O Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I actually like Tarver.
Maybe his plays are to complicated for our players.
Remember, we are the dumbest team in America.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You need to stop smoking.
You like Tarver? Really? Why?
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Neva!!!!
lol
Our D is garbage.
I don’t think defensive gurus like Libeau and Johnson could save this D.
Bring in Shaw and keep Tarver.
Stanford ties.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Man are we a cr@p team. I mean so bad it boggles the mind. Heyward Bey and Denarius Moore stink. They simply stink real bad. It’s like playing catch with a nine year old.
And the line play was embarrassing…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:18 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:16 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hwnrdr
Didn’t you say Tedford got fired?
I wonder who’ll they be looking at for HC?
Yeah i know…HueJack back in the Bay!
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Never thought about that 1.
That would be awesome!!!!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:18 am
JLofty Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Man are we a cr@p team. I mean so bad it boggles the mind. Heyward Bey and Denarius Moore stink. They simply stink real bad. It’s like playing catch with a nine year old.
And the line play was embarrassing…
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Now more people are coming with reality that we need, #1 Receiver and solid #2
November 26th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Do we think we could get a verbal commitment from Shaw before firing DA?
You can’t fire a guy, then have the guy say, you know what I am good, good luck with your search.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Yup, I heard someone say that Huejack will be considered for the Cal job! SOme say that he will be the HC! Who knows…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Just saw the grading Jerry gave to the game, no “F” just solid “D”s! 4 “Ds” and two “Cs.” We must be getting better?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Even with Jamarcus russel we ended up with more than 2 wins
J RuSSEl >>> C Newton
It just s8cks that C Newton flopping at the wrong time, it would have been beer for Carolina if they got #1 pick last year , they could have either grabbed Luck or Griffin, now anyone they draft would b Cam Newton 2.0
November 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
“and a doofus of an owner”
Thanks for the Black Monday laugh JFB…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
DHB’s drop literally could have been a TD.
They brough heavy pressure, he had two steps on his man, and we have seen him run with the ball like a beast.
The inability to consistantly catch with his hands reared it’s ugly head again. He didn’t try to snag it with his hands, but kind of cradle it and it bounced of his forearms.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Do we think we could get a verbal commitment from Shaw before firing DA?
You can’t fire a guy, then have the guy say, you know what I am good, good luck with your search.
Exactly, but even a verbal doesn’t mean anything…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider (since) 1967
★★★★★★★★★
Love quarterbacks eating dirt and girls in mini skirts!
DO YOU THINK REGGIE IS CHECKIN THE LIST AND
CHECKIN IT TWICE!
GOING TO FIND OUT WHO IS NUGHTY-LAZY OR NICE! 8
November 26th, 2012 at 11:22 am
I’m big fan of DHB, works hard and always goes hard on field on every play , but if he can’t catch simple passes , what’s the point ???
November 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
I cant believe there are fools here making excuses for dennis allen?!?!?!
Big mack will admit he whiffed on allen, and allen will be fired if he doesnt put a better product on the field over the next couple of weeks.
Big mack is no dummy and he wont allen wreck his dream job, and will go out swinging trying to find the right guy.
Mark davis holds the hammer and this quote is just like listening to his father!
“As I said, coming in I didn’t know that we had a Super Bowl team and everything, but you can’t blame it on the salary cap and all that. You have players and you coach ‘em and you play. You got to be Raiders.” mark davis
Just like when pops told lance
“you have players coach them”
so while excuses my sooth the fragile nerves of battered allen fans and palmer worshipers, they will not fly with davis.
This is clear.
Davis nor big mack will keep a coach simply for fear of being one and done or appearing unstable to the fans.
They are aware that there are many coaches that can do the job and want one of the 32 nfl head coach post, and would love to work for the illustrious silver and black.
Only fans media and retread coaches will tell you other wise.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Exactly, but even a verbal doesn’t mean anything…
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Shaw is from a football family, I think he would respect the game and the process enough to not squawk on a verbal.
If he gives it, it is good as gold. But he probably wouldn’t give it.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I would take Bruce Gradkowski over C Newton
November 26th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Aaron brooks >> C Newton
November 26th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
I cant believe there are fools here making excuses for dennis allen?!?!?!
Big mack will admit he whiffed on allen, and allen will be fired if he doesnt put a better product on the field over the next couple of weeks.
Big mack is no dummy and he wont allen wreck his dream job, and will go out swinging trying to find the right guy.
Mark davis holds the hammer and this quote is just like listening to his father!
“As I said, coming in I didn’t know that we had a Super Bowl team and everything, but you can’t blame it on the salary cap and all that. You have players and you coach ‘em and you play. You got to be Raiders.” mark davis
Just like when pops told lance
“you have players coach them”
so while excuses my sooth the fragile nerves of battered allen fans and palmer worshipers, they will not fly with davis.
This is clear.
Davis nor big mack will keep a coach simply for fear of being one and done or appearing unstable to the fans.
They are aware that there are many coaches that can do the job and want one of the 32 nfl head coach post, and would love to work for the illustrious silver and black.
Only fans media and retread coaches will tell you other wise.
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Fake Mistic
November 26th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Drops Hella Balls should have his contract restructured in the offseason and should be demoted to no. 4 WR or cut if he doesn’t restructure. I’m sure his agent won’t get any calls from other teams clamoring for his services. He didn’t pick himself at no.7 overall, but he is really a 5th or 6th round talent at best and should be paid accordingly as one.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:26 am
I’m big fan of DHB, works hard and always goes hard on field on every play ,
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The young man deserves a ton of credit for working hard and improving. In the Al Davis tribute game, he may have been the best player on the field that day.
He could have easily had his rookie year disaster, all the media scrutiny and just said screw it and turn into JJ Soward or something. He didn’t and worked hard, and deserves major kudo’s doing so.
With all that being said, this is about as good as he gets. You look at all the WR’s who took a year or two to improve (like a Cliff Branch) a lot of the times, their 3rd year was their best year, or at least about the peak of what they can do.
DHB’s peak is about 50 catches for 900 yards and a handful of scores , coupled with a boatload of drops.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:27 am
It’s always real peaceful in here in the morning. That is until a certain someone shows up.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Hate to say this, but we also need to be looking at some assistant coaches over da water for possible HC gig.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Raider(since) 1967
★★★★★★★★★★
REGGIE IS PUTTING HIS BRASS KNUCLES !
And at 6-6 400 POUNDS HIS TO BEAT THE S#IT
November 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Recap: The season continues to unravel for the Raiders. They are 3-8 and have lost four straight games. Oakland is simply not competitive . It is being blown out routinely and has allowed 169 points in the past four games. It is the third highest total in any four-game stretch in NFL history, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
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Think we can break history?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
and would love to work for the illustrious silver and black.
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Didn’t Steve Sarkisian tell us to piss off?
There is nothing “illustrious” anymore about the Raiders unless you are a former Raider.
If we fire DA, we will be scraping the bottom of the barrel of available coaches.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@Just Fire Baby
Would you resign him next year?
As your _________# receiver?
Plus those end-arounds are nice sometimes…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone sell T-Shirts at Raider games that say ‘Dumbest Team in America’ on them? I think someone could make a killing selling those.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:31 am
All of you stupid bùtthole coaches are fired get your shìt and get out.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Restucture DHB’s contract and bring him in as our #3 receiver.
I’m cool w/ that.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:31 am
ABP, I haven’t seen those guys in awhile…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
My brother from another mother,
LOL damn right. Too legit to quit!
Vote Green in 2016.
I’m willing to give Titty Monkey another year, but his staff aka Turd Monkeys have to go.
Our team regressed. Our entire offense & Deffense, OL, DL, STs, etc.. regressed this year.
Do we have great talent? No.
Did we have great talent the last 2 seasons? No.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
412.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
and would love to work for the illustrious silver and black.
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Didn’t Steve Sarkisian tell us to piss off?
There is nothing “illustrious” anymore about the Raiders unless you are a former Raider.
If we fire DA, we will be scraping the bottom of the barrel of available coaches.
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Not if Mark breaks from his old man’s tendencies and decides to pony up big money for a HC.
If Mark starts offering 5-6 mil you will see all kinds of coaching greats lining up and coming out of the woodwork saying the Raiders is their dream job.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@Just Fire Baby
Would you resign him next year?
As your _________# receiver?
Plus those end-arounds are nice sometimes…
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DHB would make a nice #4 or #5 WR. They need a big time play maker to go along with Moore and Criner. Streeter might be better than DHB next year.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone sell T-Shirts at Raider games that say ‘Dumbest Team in America’ on them? I think someone could make a killing selling those.
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Thanx for the idea.
I’ll make sure to send you one.
lol
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
After yet another embarrassing belly flop, in his home coming legacy game, carson has cemented himself as one of the all time raider trade blunders.
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Does anyone even read this swill anymore? Or does everyone just rightfully ignore it?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Fire DA and have that guy in the Darth Vader costume coach the team for the rest of the year
November 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
@Just Fire Baby
Would you resign him next year?
As your _________# receiver?
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Restructure and have him be the #3 WR.
Cool with that. His hard work will pay dividends on the youngsters we bring in to replace him as the #1 or #2 WR.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I’m done talking about coaching , i think this team severely lacks talent, lets talk about draft and oh yeah , DHB is nothing more than a #4 at this time and D Moore is #3 at best
November 26th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone sell T-Shirts at Raider games that say ‘Dumbest Team in America’ on them? I think someone could make a killing selling those.
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Thanx for the idea.
I’ll make sure to send you one.
lol
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I want 25% of your profit.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
After yet another embarrassing belly flop, in his home coming legacy game, carson has cemented himself as one of the all time raider trade blunders.
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Does anyone even read this swill anymore? Or does everyone just rightfully ignore it?
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i sure didn’t read it till you posted it. It was a gamble that didn’t pay off but it gave us two games last year where we win we’re in the playoffs also it saved us from a similar season last year with Boller at qb
November 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
419. Bingo… you get what you pay for with coaches.. you only getnlucky with a young cheap coach once in a while.. and then they want a raise too.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Marks Hair Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Fire DA and have that guy in the Darth Vader costume coach the team for the rest of the year
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That guy would get fined by the league every week for not wearing sanctioned NFL apparel.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
D’Moore and DHB and Criner should fight it out for 3-4-5 spots, we need to sign Bowe and hopefully pray that Streeter grows up to be #2
November 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Raider O Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
My brother from another mother,
LOL damn right. Too legit to quit!
Vote Green in 2016.
I’m willing to give Titty Monkey another year, but his staff aka Turd Monkeys have to go.
Our team regressed. Our entire offense & Deffense, OL, DL, STs, etc.. regressed this year.
Do we have great talent? No.
Did we have great talent the last 2 seasons? No.
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The ship never even sailed off to sink from the port of Oakland.
We were fked INSTANTLY, when DA hired hired Knappy the “DMAC killer” as our OC.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Tarver is every bit as bad as Knapp.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bowe would be a nice upgrade, but who’s gonna want to come to Oakland??
Really?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
David Shaw would be a good choice, but…would he take the job?
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Not if he thinks we’ll can him after a year.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
If Mark starts offering 5-6 mil you will see all kinds of coaching greats lining up and coming out of the woodwork saying the Raiders is their dream job.
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5-6 million wouldn’t even put you in the top 5 of coaching, more like 6-8 million will do that.
Andy Reid is the 8th highest paid coach at 5.5. Figure Harbaugh will get an extension and put him in the top 8 (he isn’t right now).
Jeff Fisher got $7 million per and front office authority. We would need to do something like that.
Not happening.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Screw Tarver he can go be a Steve Zahn stand in, on any movie. Tarver is running the worst defense in the NFL? Why do you guys need to be reminded?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
After yet another embarrassing belly flop, in his home coming legacy game, carson has cemented himself as one of the all time raider trade blunders.
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Does anyone even read this swill anymore? Or does everyone just rightfully ignore it?
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JUST SCROLL BABY!!!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
How many drops does dhb have this year?
I think there is too much being made of his drop yesterday as moore is clearly the wr that has struggled in that department, while dhb has been solid mostly all year.
In fact it is brandon myers moore and dmac that have all been hampered with drops, tied for 8th and 15th in dropped passes. DHB doesnt even appear on the list.
he is clearly the best of the group yet knapp and palmer refuse to get him the ball. probably one of the reasons we are 3-8
The issue is he isnt targeted nearly enough, and this is both on palmer, and knapp.
Knapp should feature dhb in the passing game. DHB reminds me very much of many wrs that have played, he needs to get in the action early. a quick bubble screen or reverse or quick slant to get him going.
This is the folly of plamer and knapp.
last year JC made it a point to get dhb involved early and it led to dhb improving by leaps and bounds.
Enter palmer who instantly favored moore, and after a year and a half the entire wr group looks worse than they did before his arrival.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
For the first time in franchise history, the Raiders have lost three straight games by at least 21 points.
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Another Raider first accomplished this season.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bowe would be a nice upgrade, but who’s gonna want to come to Oakland??
Really?
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Cp3 >>> Matt Cassell, Bay area >> anywhere in US
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
bring back chucky b!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
What self-respecting coach confident in his skills and wanting to show the world what he can do wouldn’t want a job like the Raiders? Come on, some of you act like coaches have their pick of the litter where it comes to talented teams. Teams looking for coaches have issues. Maybe some are better than others when you consider notoriety and stadiums, but the main issue here was Davis not wanting to give up control. That is no longer the case here.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
you have to blame the coaching because the roster isn’t so much worse player wise than it was the last two years yet look at how we’re playing. It is sad that our players don’t take it upon themselves however. I mean Moore, DHB, DMAC, Branch, Gio, Shaughnessey, Brisel, Wiz what happened to you guys?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
How many drops does dhb have this year?
I think there is too much being made of his drop yesterday as moore is clearly the wr that has struggled in that department, while dhb has been solid mostly all year.
In fact it is brandon myers moore and dmac that have all been hampered with drops, tied for 8th and 15th in dropped passes. DHB doesnt even appear on the list.
he is clearly the best of the group yet knapp and palmer refuse to get him the ball. probably one of the reasons we are 3-8
The issue is he isnt targeted nearly enough, and this is both on palmer, and knapp.
Knapp should feature dhb in the passing game. DHB reminds me very much of many wrs that have played, he needs to get in the action early. a quick bubble screen or reverse or quick slant to get him going.
This is the folly of plamer and knapp.
last year JC made it a point to get dhb involved early and it led to dhb improving by leaps and bounds.
Enter palmer who instantly favored moore, and after a year and a half the entire wr group looks worse than they did before his arrival.
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Keep Scrolling baby
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bowe would be a nice upgrade, but who’s gonna want to come to Oakland??
Really?
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Cp3 >>> Matt Cassell, Bay area >> anywhere in US
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Show him some big time $$$$ and he’ll probably sign.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
neilb Says: Groundhog Day…===========================
Nah, Miss Tick is hard at work crafting new disparaging phrases designed to provoke an emotional response in those of us that, strictly for ethnocentric reasons, continue to WORSHIP our Golden Haired Hero. To wit:
embarrassing belly flop,crestfallen sad sack,horrifying display,mind blowing game killing turnovers, sideline tantrums and a dizzying losses
November 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bowe would be a nice upgrade, but who’s gonna want to come to Oakland??
Really?
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Cp3 >>> Matt Cassell, Bay area >> anywhere in US
LOL…sorry, not better than Hawaii! Only if you don’t have to work and just enjoy!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
JUST SCROLL BABY!!!!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
you have to blame the coaching because the roster isn’t so much worse player wise than it was the last two years yet look at how we’re playing. It is sad that our players don’t take it upon themselves however. I mean Moore, DHB, DMAC, Branch, Gio, Shaughnessey, Brisel, Wiz what happened to you guys?
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I decide not to get mad over anything other than Knapp hiring and ST coach, would love to see what D can do with a legit pass rusher or 2
November 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Raiders RapidReports @CBSRaiders
Rookie WR Juron Criner was on the field Sunday for 40 of 61 offensive plays (66 percent) to just 5 plays for fellow rookie WR Rod Streater.
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November 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bowe would be a nice upgrade, but who’s gonna want to come to Oakland??
Really?
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Cp3 >>> Matt Cassell, Bay area >> anywhere in US
LOL…sorry, not better than Hawaii! Only if you don’t have to work and just enjoy!
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HAWAII is not in US, LOL JK, but I’m talking from standpoint where the teams are located, Bay Area is >> than all the other sports cities
November 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
last year JC made it a point to get dhb involved early and it led to dhb improving by leaps and bounds.
Enter palmer who instantly favored moore, and after a year and a half the entire wr group looks worse than they did before his arrival.
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DHB Myers and Moore are better, but they still drop to many balls, can’t deny that. And palmer is throwing to all the recceivers, JC hardly even threw the ball
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Bowe would be a nice upgrade, but who’s gonna want to come to Oakland??
Really?
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I’m sure Bowe would rather be playing Oakland than KC right now.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Sooooooo, all of sudden a year later…..
Our Dline sucks???? We were 2nd in overall sacks last season.
WTF happened?
Did we get hella old over a year?
Basically the same D-line minus Kam.
Our coaching is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring back Wauffle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted earlier this morning, but no takers.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
last year JC made it a point to get dhb involved early and it led to dhb improving by leaps and bounds.
Enter palmer who instantly favored moore, and after a year and a half the entire wr group looks worse than they did before his arrival.
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DHB Myers and Moore are better, but they still drop to many balls, can’t deny that. And palmer is throwing to all the recceivers, JC hardly even threw the ball
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JUST SCROLL, BABY.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
In 14 games with Campbell, DHB caught 2 TD’s.
IN 19 games with Palmer, he has caught 6.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Does anyone even read this swill anymore?==============
I do. He’s becoming more eloquent. May have to go back and compile a whole post of his hilariously diparaging phrases.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
and would love to work for the illustrious silver and black.
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Didn’t Steve Sarkisian tell us to piss off?
There is nothing “illustrious” anymore about the Raiders unless you are a former Raider.
If we fire DA, we will be scraping the bottom of the barrel of available coaches.
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dont believe the hype
There are only 32 nfl hc jobs, there are plenty of coaches that would sellt here mother and trade their gonads for any one of them, including the raiders.
LOl lets not be ridiculous.
any nfl hc job has a dearth of candidates that want the job and plenty are well qualified quality coaches.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
In 14 games with Campbell, DHB caught 2 TD’s.
IN 19 games with Palmer, he has caught 6.
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checkmate
November 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Sooooooo, all of sudden a year later…..
Our Dline sucks???? We were 2nd in overall sacks last season.
WTF happened?
Did we get hella old over a year?
Basically the same D-line minus Kam.
Our coaching is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring back Wauffle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted earlier this morning, but no takers.
mcfadden20. Says:
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Where did you get 2nd in sacks last year from??? I thought we were in middle of pack with like 35-40 sacks, and ofcourse we’re going to regress, Kelly and Seymour are close 1 year closer to retirement, Shaugnessy(coming off major injury) in place of Wimbley
November 26th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Ok, McFadden…point taken…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:48 am
DHB’s two biggest games in his career were Detroit and San Diego last year.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Evaluation time, Reggie needs to make sure of it
November 26th, 2012 at 11:49 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMAC Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Sooooooo, all of sudden a year later…..
Our Dline sucks???? We were 2nd in overall sacks last season.
WTF happened?
Did we get hella old over a year?
Basically the same D-line minus Kam.
Our coaching is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring back Wauffle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted earlier this morning, but no takers.
mcfadden20. Says:
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Where did you get 2nd in sacks last year from??? I thought we were in middle of pack with like 35-40 sacks, and ofcourse we’re going to regress, Kelly and Seymour are close 1 year closer to retirement, Shaugnessy(coming off major injury) in place of Wimbley
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2 words
Bdd coaching
November 26th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Also let it be said that most of the blog will only consider former nfl coaches as quality candidates ( gruden, reid, cower and so on), there are many quality guys that you have never heard of.
A coach doesnt need a big name to be good at his job.
So while the blog morons have a closed mind and limited information on perspective coaches big mack is not hampered by such limitations.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:51 am
A
November 26th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Mistic
I know you would also luv Shaw as our new HC, right?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:52 am
So while the blog morons have a closed mind and limited information on perspective coaches big mack is not hampered by such limitations.
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Same can be said for his choice of QB, no?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
last year JC made it a point to get dhb involved early and it led to dhb improving by leaps and bounds.
Enter palmer who instantly favored moore, and after a year and a half the entire wr group looks worse than they did before his arrival.
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In 2011, DHB’s averages with both QBs you mention (not counting games DHB didn’t play in or the 2 games where each QB didn’t play the entire game):
Campbell/DHB: 4 rec, 65.75 yards, 0.25 TDs
Palmer/DHB: 5.3 rec, 77.29 yards, 0.43 TDs
Let’s compare apples to apples folks, and trash all the speculation. Under the same coaching staff, the Palmer to DHB connection was BETTER.
Knapp is the problem here!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
WIMBLEY, KELLY, SEYMOUR = 22 sacks last year
2012, No wimbley, long in the tooth Kelly and chronic knee seymour
November 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Bowe will not come to oakland.. your kidding yourselves.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:54 am
The Raiders were #15 in sacks last year with 39
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=SACKS&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
November 26th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Marks hair Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Bowe will not come to oakland.. your kidding yourselves.
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Why not? is he in better situation? why wouldn’t he want CP throwing to him?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raiders do have the best kicking in the NFL.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: So while the blog morons have a closed mind and limited information on perspective(sic) coaches big mack is not hampered by such limitations.====================================
And having every asst coach in the NFL to choose from as well as all the one’s we(and you) have never heard of, he picked DA. Hmmm.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
bring in ried as gm, gruden as hc and trestman as oc…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
With an O-line like this you need a mobile QB not a QB that will go down like a chopped tree and one that routinely coughs up the fumble.
Grads couldn’t throw long but he could buy time. Pryor needs some reps in garbage time if only to increase his trade value.
This staff cannot adjust at half time nor when the season is basically over. Palmer had to lead the half time speech. Jeezus.
Can it just be over already ?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
manassamauler Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raiders do have the best kicking in the NFL.
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Not anymore
Even Lechler has regressed this season
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
bowe wouldnt touch da with a ten foot pole…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
HC – Shaw
OC – Hue
DC – Tarver
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Why? Because theres at least 28 better options… he probably likes winning and money..
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
bowe wouldnt touch da with a ten foot pole…
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You back at trolling?
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
manassamauler Says: Raiders do have the best kicking in the NFL.================================
After ten years, I’m getting to the whooppee point with that as well. And I appreciate the importance of the kicking game.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
actually no one is gonna come here if da remains, he treats his players like kids…these are grown men…
November 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
The good news: Only 5 more games left.
That’s your kool-aide of the day folks!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
mctroll you changed back from alex7?
November 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Why? Because theres at least 28 better options… he probably likes winning and money..
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sometimes going to a familiar team is better, we’re #1 WR, C, and RT and OC away from becoming stud on that side, we will only need to get a few stud pass rushers on D side to become average , and then we will be talking
November 26th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Isn’t Bowe looking for $$$ and to be a team #1 WR?
What other teams can give Bowe a big contract and be the teams #1 receiver?
November 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Forget Reid – the fat man is not what we need. Gruden isn’t coming and he’s not the fired up coach he was when he first came here.
Go get the coach we all hated in the eighties and nineties.
Go get Marty Shotenhiemer. I have always had deep hatred for Marty but also respect. Because he won. He always had a competitive team.
Marty Ball Baby.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
idk just get rid of allen….
November 26th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I wanted to post something that I was thinking about yesterday while I was watching the game.
Carson Palmer isn’t the problem, I actually think that he is a good QB. The problem is Carson Palmer is the wrong QB for this team right now.
Our O line is horrible this year, Palmer gets no protection or time to throw the ball. Our Scheme is pathetic and most of the players don’t fit it in any way. I whole heartedly believe that if we had a young, agile, scrambling type QB right now I think we’d be a lot better off.
People want to blame Palmer that’s fine, but I think there is plenty of blame to go around from top to bottom. I was actually hoping to log on and see that Knapp was fired, couldn’t get that lucky I guess. This team has no identity, we just aren’t good in any faze of the game, this season is over.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
buy 1 raider ticket get three free…keep repeating that mark..
November 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Listen have Marty light the flame and let bygones be bygones.
Marty HC
Juan Castillo OC
Greg ‘kill the head’ Williams DC
Howzat ?
November 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
palmer is a good qb but the scheme is built for a robot who cant think…
November 26th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Dennis Allen seems to have lost the lockerroom. If he ever had it to begin with. This season has turned to chit fast and DA looks shellshocked most of the time. I think he regrets ever leaving Denver. He’s not ready for this, maybe never will be. As green as he was as a rookie HC, Reggie should have never given him unilateral authority on the coaching hires. He needed to be surrounded with old veteran coaches who have been there and done that. He’s been trying to learn this on the fly and taking notes while getting schooled.
Get your large paper bags ready and cut out the eyeholes and drippy tears. It’s gonna be Fugly.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Star Lotulelie is more of a pass rusher than a beast run stopper
November 26th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marc trestman, chip kelly.
these are two names high on my list
November 26th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Fugly…Sam Cassell is coming? Ok, just kidding…
However, I will NEVER wear a paper bag!
November 26th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
post 491. Good post. I agree Carson isn’t the problem here. A dysfunctional coaching staff with failed schemes, failed teaching, zero in-game adjustments, and underachieving and undertalented players surrounding Carson is the problem.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I just want to see whole sale changes because this is embarrassing.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
thanks guest, glad you agree
November 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
hwnrdr Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Fugly…Sam Cassell is coming? Ok, just kidding…
However, I will NEVER wear a paper bag!
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better to wear a paper bag than a Bucs hat!
November 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marc trestman, chip kelly.
these are two names high on my list
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Thoughts on Shaw
I think he could be the man for the job
Like Kelly 2
November 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
people killed hu jack for a perceived lack of discipline
now those same folks give allen a pass?!?!
still getting dumb penalites personal fouls and blown assignmnets.
Whats more troubling is that most of the personal fouls and assignments issues are on the defnsive side of the ball
Isnt that allens area of expertise?
Allen was a bad hire, big mack will take his head if this contnues to happen.
Clearly he is worse than Bresnahan and that is a mouthful
this defense has been historically bad
are you davis haters happy?
do you miss press man yet?
November 26th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
New post
November 26th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Mock drafts have geno going first overall to the queefs…… DEAR GOD NO!!!!
That is unless tp6 is our guy next year, then we would be treated to this match up twice a year.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
A lot of teams are 5 players short of being decent on offense bow has plenty of choices…. but wait.. our d and coaches stink too.. nope no bowe
November 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Raider(since) 1967
★★★★★★★
DUDE- Its amazing and totaly unbelievable that a team like the Oakland Raiders can have a 10 year losing streak!
Ten years of missery, and not to say everything that has happen to us.From the Tuck rule ,losing games because officials or stupid penalties or unable to close games out! 100 loses.
THAT-this is happening to us, the Prince of Darkness and the
Most beautiful team of all is a total NIGHTMARE!
DAMMIT WE JUST GOT TO REPAIR THIS S#IT NOW – REGGIE, ALLEN AND MR. DAVIS.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Raider(since)1967
★★★★★★★
We need to get people over to REGGIE and MARK DAVIS
A MEETING BETWEEN MADDEN AND GRUDEN AND REGGIE AND MARK DAVIS SHOULD BE DONE TO SAVE THIS TEAM ASAP!
IF WE DON’T DO THIS MEETING WE CAN END LOSING THE NFL RAIDERS TEAM COMPLETELY
This Team has been a Total failure in the NFL LEAGUE!
November 26th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
actually no one is gonna come here if da remains, he treats his players like kids…these are grown men…===
Before free agency, Al Davis treated players like men with generally good results. Doesn’t seem to work that way anymore. Now you have to wait until the men become obvious, then you treat them as such.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Rewinding the tape, when Reggie McKenzie came to OakLand it was all about changing the culture.
What happened?
We brought in Denise Allen . Smart, up beat maverick, where is the beef?
From day one, we have been far from a well oiled machine . Hot , cold all year long. In flashes we have shown we can hang with the big teams, The Texans, The Falcons and so on, then we loose and or struggle with the weaker teams.
At Cincinnati, in sum, what I’ve seen is a lack of vision in the players. I’m pretty sure both McKenzie and Alen have vision and a few players here and there notably Reece, Palmer and Buris.
Say all you want about discipline and Talent, don’t get me wrong, they are important, but without vision they are fleeting .
November 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Typical fan reaction when nothing is going well: Blame everyone, cut everyone.
Take a step back. Palmer, DHB, Moore, DMC, Reece and a whole bunch of players were on the up-n-up last year. You could see their potential and they were performing better and better. This year, it all stopped (save Palmer …and Reece to an extent, he’s still not used right). So what has really changed from last year to this year?? COACHES IDIOTS!!! ITS ALL ABOUT THE COACHES!!! (And possibly management ..i.e. GM …but the coaches have the direct and immediate impact on these players on the field).
Thats you key. Thats your problem. Its not the players so much as it is the change of coaches. The whole lott needs to be fired. We HAD one of the best coaching staffs on offense in the league last year and this idiot DA (and Reggie) blew the whole thing up!!! Thes guys don’t know what the fuk they are doing. Why are you so anxious to give them another shot next year?? So we can have some continuity? Thats the craziest, stupidest argument I have EVER heard. You’ll suffer another year of horrific play just to have some continutity (sucking). Think about that will you?
November 26th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Last year DHB became our most productive WR. This year he seems to have regressed.
Last year Moore was viewed as the next best thing, running routes with precision and becoming a dynamic deep threat player. This year he can’t even get on the same page.
Last year DMC was one of the best RBs in the league with the stats to prove it. This year he can’t even sniff 4ypc.
Lil Wiz was viewed as the next Wiz and the OL was looking more and more SOLID for years to come. This year Wiz is having issues nad the OL is in shambles.
I can go on and on …the only thing that has changed is the coaches (and management). These boys are moving this club drastically in the wrong direction. They are the ones that need to be cut. MARK DAVIS OPEN YOUR EYES MAN!!! THESE BOYZ ARE CON-ARTIST. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY CAN ONLY TALK A GOOD GAME. THE PROOF IS ON THE FIELD.
November 27th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Moore and Palmer still aren’t co for table in the new offense. Aren’t on the same page means not sure what they’re supposed to do in different situations.
O line looks a hello a lot worse. DMAC suddenly playing worse than he ever has.
When every single player regresses its the coaches to blame.
Defense produced sacks in the past. What changed except the coaching staff?
November 27th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Marks hair Says:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Watching the Raiders is like coming home to your family after working hard all week.. long tough hours.. and you sit down for Sunday dinner and your wife just takes a steaming pile of shìt on your plate and you have to smile and eat it because you’re that fùcking loyal..
This is fu**in funny! But it relates to how loyal and disgusted Raider fans have become!
November 27th, 2012 at 10:37 am
The drops by DHB were just pathetic! Dude is another one to add to the BUST list! Dude couldn’t catch a fuc**n pass with Gorilla Glue on his fuc**n hands!
November 27th, 2012 at 10:47 am
After watching the Panthers last night, looks they are going to hand the Raiders another East Coast Ass Whoopin! Cyanide please!!!!