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Raiders live chat here on Tuesday at noon

By Jon Becker
Monday, November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Join Steve Corkran at noon on Tuesday as he discusses the struggling Raiders.

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  1. Priesttj12 Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    I can’t understand that, all he ahd to do is wait until the team got better. He also went to NE and they cut him citing he didn’t prepare well. That’s just flatout quitting on yourself.

    If you watch Cam he still has issues with his technigue which could take until his 3rd year. Neither Cam or Kappy or Pryor are pure passers. They are great leaders competitors and generals who know how to win games. Cam is struggling some and so will Kappy whe they get a book on him. Pryor will go thru those same struggles but he will win games for you while he is going thru it.
    **********************************
    Thanks Cork! it’s well appreciated.

  2. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I think Fangs got banned and then came back as Aryan.

  3. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Why do I want a qb controversy?!?!!

    BECAUSE PALMER STINKS OUT LOUD & WE NEED A BETTER QB!!!

    Controversy means Palmer is being challenged for the job,( a job he never earned)we need this badly

    7-14 with 35 turnovers isn’t good enough. Not for me or big Mack or Davis!!!

    Why wouldn’t you want controversy?

    – Oh man you just don’t know when to stop even when you get your wish, now you will see pryor for total of 5 snaps

  4. Raider E Says:

    Mistic,

    Enough of the Palmer crap. He is a decent NFL QB. Leave it alone, Playa.

    Let’s just stick behind all the Raiders, ok?

  5. KoolKell Says:

    Why the Reggie Presser Friday?

  6. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Palmer is not an Al Davis player. Dennis Allen is not a Al Davis Coach.

    Stop letting these Fugazzi azzz ppl in the ogranization MARK. STOP the flooding NOW.

  7. Just Win Baby Says:

    There is no QB controversy. TP hasn’t taken a snap. get real.

  8. mcfadden20. Says:

    I hope they ban idiots, who get mad when someone doesn’t agree with them and start calling names

  9. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Palmer is not an Al Davis player. Dennis Allen is not a Al Davis Coach.

    Stop letting these Fugazzi azzz ppl in the ogranization MARK. STOP the flooding NOW.
    ——-
    Al Davis is dead. Get over it.

  10. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & guard went down.

    Now cam doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line

  11. mcfadden20. Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    There is no QB controversy. TP hasn’t taken a snap. get real.

    Let Mist1c live in his own fantasy world

  12. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Why do I want a qb controversy?!?!!

    BECAUSE PALMER STINKS OUT LOUD & WE NEED A BETTER QB!!!
    ===========================================

    I have said over and over, that fans fall in love with certain players and fall in hate with other players. Really with no rhyme or reason to why. I fall in love with production. I have a hard time hating a player who has kept us in games, statistically is in the upper half of the league with no blocking, receivers, or running game. And I certainly would not want to ship him out for a completely unproven commodity. That borders on silliness.

  13. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Al has passed on .. but his son is still here. So plenty of player owner thing still going on. Dont be naive

    Im tired of a Qb who can not move. Im not saying u have to be mike vick fast.. but Aaron Rodgers speed will do.

    Pryor fits this offense more then Palmer.

  14. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & guard went down.

    Now cam doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line

    yet when same things happen to CP3 , it’s all his fault?

  15. Seymour Bush Says:

    Maybe it was the troll that took over my handle. That was weak sauce.

  16. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & guard went down.

    Now cam doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line
    ——
    No, it couldn’t be Cam’s fault. The team around him is causing him to lose. That’s fair. Too bad you don’t hold Palmer to the same standards.

  17. morilla Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Why do I want a qb controversy?!?!!

    BECAUSE PALMER STINKS OUT LOUD & WE NEED A BETTER QB!!!
    ===========================================

    I have said over and over, that fans fall in love with certain players and fall in hate with other players. Really with no rhyme or reason to why. I fall in love with production. I have a hard time hating a player who has kept us in games, statistically is in the upper half of the league with no blocking, receivers, or running game. And I certainly would not want to ship him out for a completely unproven commodity. That borders on silliness.
    ————–

    Agree and beyond obvious.

    But you forgot one more thing, a defense.

  18. MistaBrown Says:

    Cork, when KK was calling people sand monkeys and crackers you didn’t ban him did you?

    Thanks hypocrite.

  19. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line.
    =======================================

    Newton’s Oline, RB’s and receivers are light years better than ours.

  20. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Whoever was banned will be back.

  21. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Dont give me this it can hurt his confidence. PRYOR is not that fragile.. if anything its gonna make him want to come back harder.

    He is all on twtter talking about how its a 16 round fight after each loss starting back in DENVER.. the he is tweeting how he hates LOSING yesterday.

    Then he is tweeting “I see you KAP”

    Like harbaugh said.. the only way a kid is gonna learn is through the fire.

    Cant learn on the sidelines. and Its football. Pryor is gonna take his hits.. but he is gonna give some too.. make some plays

  22. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    Mistic,

    Enough of the Palmer crap. He is a decent NFL QB. Leave it alone, Playa.

    Let’s just stick behind all the Raiders, ok?
    …….

    Feel free to skip my post but

    7-14 isn’t good enough to me neither is a whopping 35 turnovers.

    I will never accept that from a qb on my team

    Why would you?

  23. mcfadden20. Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & guard went down.

    Now cam doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line
    ——
    No, it couldn’t be Cam’s fault. The team around him is causing him to lose. That’s fair. Too bad you don’t hold Palmer to the same standards.

    —-

    No because Palmer is a 10 year veteran and we traded a 1st rd and 2nd rd pick for him so he should overcoming all the short comings of our team(No running game, No pass block , horrible receivers, ok Te, horrible pass rusher, horrible D) and lead us to Superbowl or he’s a failure

  24. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    John Glennon ‏@glennonsports
    #Titans have fired Off. Coordinator Chris Palmer and replaced him with QB coach Dowell Loggains.
    Retweeted by Jason La Canfora
    Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
    ——
    If they can do it, so can we.

  25. Kirk Says:

    Raiders think about using Pryor?

    Why?

    He’s only 230 lbs and runs a 4.4 forty.

    We don’t need anyone like that on the field.

    We might actually score a few points.

  26. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    You guys dont realize. Mark has an inside source in the locker room. He goes by the name of MARCEL REECE.

    Mark and Marcel are close. Very tight. Like good friends. Im sure they have meetings on the regular on whats going down. He would say if the coaches are being lost on some players.

    Darren Mcfadden and Reece are boys too I see them always on the sidelines talking after 3 n outs and horrible zb runs. Before the injury. Why do you think MARK told reggie and the coaches to talk to DMAC and find out what he liked to run.

    marcel probaly tellin Mark the ZBS doest work for DMAC

  27. Los Raida Locos Says:

    test

  28. Los Raida Locos Says:

    sweet

  29. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line.
    =======================================

    Newton’s Oline, RB’s and receivers are light years better than ours.
    ….

    Spoken like a man that has not watched much panther football

    Carolina Chicago and Philly are the worst o lines in football by far in terms of pass protection.

    If cam wasn’t mobile thy would be right at the top in sacks allowed

  30. Raider E Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & guard went down.

    Now cam doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line

    ———————————-

    Andrew Walter anyone?

  31. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Q: Is it time to give other quarterbacks a shot other than Carson Palmer?

    A: “That’s up to the coaches. That’s not my decision. I have opinions but I’m not going to speak’em.”

    ————————–

    who u think Mark is talking about. This is from his Transcript

  32. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Cam Newton is 8-18 and has 35 turnovers. Should the Panthers bench him?

  33. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Cam doesn’t believe in his o-line.
    =======================================

    Newton’s Oline, RB’s and receivers are light years better than ours.
    ….

    Spoken like a man that has not watched much panther football

    Carolina Chicago and Philly are the worst o lines in football by far in terms of pass protection.

    If cam wasn’t mobile thy would be right at the top in sacks allowed

    Gawd, yawn , anything new ???

  34. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    LOL, Gruden just said Newton and Murphy were teammates at Florida.

  35. KoolKell Says:

    See that Newton/Murphy bomb?

  36. Raider O Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    I hope they ban idiots, who get mad when someone doesn’t agree with them and start calling names
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    That’s funny!

  37. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    See that Newton/Murphy bomb?
    —-
    Yeah, it was Murphy’s 12 catch this year.

  38. Priesttj12 Says:

    Cam should’ve let it loose, that was a TD.

  39. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    EVERYTIME cam drops back pressure up he gut?!?! Cam is super human making chicken sale out of chicken shid.

    Watch the game and see for yourself

  40. Raider E Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    Mistic,

    Enough of the Palmer crap. He is a decent NFL QB. Leave it alone, Playa.

    Let’s just stick behind all the Raiders, ok?
    …….

    Feel free to skip my post but

    7-14 isn’t good enough to me neither is a whopping 35 turnovers.

    I will never accept that from a qb on my team

    Why would you?

    ————————–

    Not accepting it, and I want to see Pryor. I am worried that he is gonna be thrown to the lions, but f*ck it. Let’s see what the kid can do.

    Just please stop ragging on Palmer. He is not as bad as you say.

  41. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I think Cam Newton is the only QB in the league who poses after making a first down. He’s to grow up and act like a NFL QB.

  42. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    You know davis has watched cam and wonders WHAT ABOUT OUR GUY TP6!!!!

  43. KoolKell Says:

    Wow.

  44. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Ppl saying PRYOR will never be a good qb. Guess what (Romonowski voice) Palmer will never be a good qb either.

    and he is due 15 million next year.

    Pryor less then 500,000. I’ll roll with pryor. He actually has teh wheels to play in this offense.

  45. edward teach Says:

    Already we have a QB controversy?

    Lol. This is the excerpt from the article Cork wrote earlier;

    …Allen said Monday that he and his coaches have “discussed” the possibility of taking a look at Pryor in some capacity. It’s unclear whether that might be at quarterback or in some kind of special package that takes advantage of Pryor’s impressive combination of size, speed and elusiveness.
    “He’s working to get better and he’s working to improve,” Allen said of Pryor. “I’ve seen improvement in Terrelle. He’s gotten better as a quarterback. He’s continued to work. I don’t think any of us feel like he’s the finished product, including himself, but he has worked to improve.”

    I wouldn’t mind seeing the kid take the field, just to see if he has improved since the preseason (where he looked pretty lost when he had to do anything besides improvise, let’s be honest here). He certainly has the desire and appears to have the work ethic. Let’s hope he can do something on the field, because with all the holes this team has it would be nice to not have to spend a precious future draft pick on Palmer’s eventual replacement.

  46. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?

  47. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornfucious so upset at Raiders lose all time. :mad:

  48. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    EVERYTIME cam drops back pressure up he gut?!?! Cam is super human making chicken sale out of chicken shid.

    Watch the game and see for yourself

    ____

    why would anyone watch 2-8 team?

  49. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornfucious could just cry. :mad:

  50. morilla Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
    I think Cam Newton is the only QB in the league who poses after making a first down. He’s to grow up and act like a NFL QB.
    —————–

    Cam poses after opening the pickle jar at home in the kitchen. Alone.

  51. KoolKell Says:

    Knapp tried to do that rollout, bootleg offense early this season, I didn’t think would work with Palmer. Now they have him in the pocket, that’s not working either.

    Maybe Knapp needs a running QB for his system?

  52. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Nobody said we ” we have a qb controversy”.

    I did however say that if Pryor shows a hint of what he showed in Detroit game we will have a qb controversy

  53. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornfucious worry Raiders stink so bad that their dates won’t go out with them cause they stink and attract flies. :mad:

  54. Cornfucious Says:

    Maybe Knapp needs a running QB for his system?

    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    A QB that can run for his life cuz of leaky o-line :mad:

  55. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    This is all i am saying..Its about evaluating talent at this point. Can Pryor be on the roster next year?They are gonna find out. Playoffs are done. This team is not going anywhere this season. Play him.

    Every other young guy is playing. Streater, Bilkidi, Bergstrom, CRINER, even practice squard JEREMY STEWART is playing.

    Why not PRYOR. Stop treating the guy with kid gloves. He he fails then u cut him.

  56. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornfucious so very so upset with Raiders. Coaches need to teach players how to play football, not always get beat up by bullies. :mad:

  57. Raider E Says:

    Your not blind, Mistic. Not alot of taent around Palmer and you know it.

    Let’s see what Pryor can do, I want to see this more then ever.

    Only difference between you and I? I want him to excel, and if he doesn’t, I won’t be here all day rubbing your nose in it like a school girl.

  58. Seymour Bush Says:

    Spoken like a man that has not watched much panther football

    Carolina Chicago and Philly are the worst o lines in football by far in terms of pass protection.
    =======================================

    Chicago and Philly certainly. Carolina has had some injuries but Silatolu and Jordan Gross are certainly not slouches.

  59. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornfucious glad to be back. Thanks Cork for unbanning handle, Cornfucious promise not to use vulgar language or say nasty things about the man with two johnsons :mad:

  60. Raider E Says:

    Palmer’s agent wants Pryor to play and save Palmer’s azz from an azz whooping in all of december.

  61. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hmmm I wonder of cork considers Mark Davis a “radical member” of the raider staff?
    LMFAO

  62. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I would love to hear Mark and Reggies meetings.

  63. Back-n-Black Says:

    When TP comes in at QB it will be the end of this whole regime…

  64. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    This is all i am saying..Its about evaluating talent at this point. Can Pryor be on the roster next year?They are gonna find out. Playoffs are done. This team is not going anywhere this season. Play him.

    Every other young guy is playing. Streater, Bilkidi, Bergstrom, CRINER, even practice squard JEREMY STEWART is playing.

    Why not PRYOR. Stop treating the guy with kid gloves. He he fails then u cut him.
    =========================================

    It’s not just that. He can get himself or others killed out there. Remember what Jamarcus did with Chokie Lee Higgins? You don’t need that at this point.

  65. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Thank god for RGIII cam newton & Colin kapernic

    The wave of the future is here & his name is

    TERRELLE PRYOR

  66. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornucious wants to see a stop to the Raiders getting cornholed every game. If they cannot put end to it, they will have trouble with their morning constitution. :mad:

  67. Priesttj12 Says:

    All you have to do is watch Cam and kappy to get your juices flowing for TP6. If not, check your pulse….

  68. Cornfucious Says:

    Good night Raider fans. Maybe tomorrow good news. Coaches teach players how to play football. :mad:

  69. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    He is not gonna do anthing like that. If you feel pryor is gonna do that then he is not on the roster at this point.

    Tons of rookies playing.. before that u had blaine freaking gabbert playing gimme a break.

    Obviously the ORG feels Pryor can be something or believe me.. Reggie would have cut his azz already.

  70. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    You know davis has watched cam and wonders WHAT ABOUT OUR GUY TP6!!!!
    ===================================

    I think Mark Davis is saying to himself “I am not making football decisions. That’s why I hired bona fide football guys.”

  71. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I think someone is trolling Mistic. Either that or he is drunk.

  72. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    im really thinking Mark Davis is gonna be Jerry jones 2.0 at some point. Maybe withing the next few years.. but that presser after the AINS game.. didnt look good for DA.

    U know he is feeling that heat.

  73. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    He is not gonna do anthing like that. If you feel pryor is gonna do that then he is not on the roster at this point.

    Tons of rookies playing.. before that u had blaine freaking gabbert playing gimme a break.

    Obviously the ORG feels Pryor can be something or believe me.. Reggie would have cut his azz already.
    =========================================

    No they wouldn’t because you need a #3. Who is better as a 3 out there than the guy you already have on your roster? Especially knowing that Palmer is basically an iron man. That gives them time to evaluate him. The reason guys like Gabbert or Ponder or Tannehill are out there is because Palmer is not in front of them on the depth chart.

  74. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hmmm does Pryor play this week? I say smart money is on the panther game making his first start.

    Let the kid split reps in practice for the next two weeks then give him the start at home vs the panthers.

    Also elevate him to no. 2 NOW!! So he can see mop up duty in the event of a blowout over the next two weeks or let him have a taste in relief of Palmer for a series or two during the next two weeks.

    I’m loving Davis jr right now!!!!

  75. Raider E Says:

    Marks just like his Daddy, but moreso. he is gonna roll with the Players period. Coaches will take the blame.

  76. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Thank god for RGIII cam newton & Colin kapernic

    The wave of the future is here & his name is

    TERRELLE PRYOR
    ==================================
    Dumb move.
    Now I get to repost this when TP does a pratfall, to remind you that thinking before posting will avoid you being hung in effigy.

    I would say we will miss you, but apparently name calling, and lying, is frowned upon in this establishment.

  77. Missus Beeecham Says:

    YO HOLLA

    did corker just ban my ex? aint that a damn shame. no good for nuttin lazy bum had it comin. never even took out the trash. just piled up so high til the rats would eat it all. but the man could roll a deuce. bigguns. taught me how to drop one on a dime.

    FO BIZZLE WO DIZZLE

  78. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    My point exactly. Its a rebuilding team at this point. Palmer shouldnt be taking a young mans spot especially if mark is not gonna want him on the team in a few yrs.

    Legit question is being asked by Mark to reggie. Is palmer someone you are gonna build a young team around? or will he be part of the “gutting” process that all the experts and greg papa think will take place this offseason.

    Becasue in two years they might have a young guy to build the team around and it will be back to square one. They are gonna play pryor soon because they want to see what he has. Or draft a qb in this next draft too. So many scenarios are on the table.

  79. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    im really thinking Mark Davis is gonna be Jerry jones 2.0 at some point.
    ====================================

    40+ year old guys don’t all of a sudden do a complete 180 join the Marines and lineup to fly Mach II aircraft. Mark Davis has never done anything with this team, he has never been involved with the team other than strolling through the locker room and to all of sudden change his spots and turn into Jerry Jones ain’t gonna happen. Come on…

  80. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Marks just like his Daddy, but moreso. he is gonna roll with the Players period. Coaches will take the blame.
    =============================================
    He hired Priest to wax his car?
    Cool cookies. TJ can wax like nobodys business.

  81. Seymour Bush Says:

    79 is not me. Sad sorry little excuse for a troll.

  82. Priesttj12 Says:

    When TP comes in at QB it will be the end of this whole regime…
    ************************************************
    What an interesting comment! I wonder where it emanates from?

  83. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Lol even nick foles is in the shotgun spread running zone option

    I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THE. EW FOOTBALL PARADIGM IN OAKLAND PILOTED BY TP6!!!!

    Spread the defense pressure the edges with play action roll outs use dhb & dmo on reverses & fly sweeps.

    Let tp6 throw it deep when the defense bites the play fakes

  84. Raider E Says:

    I’m all in fellas.

    FREE PRYOR 2012

  85. Seymour Bush Says:

    Legit question is being asked by Mark to reggie. Is palmer someone you are gonna build a young team around?
    ==========================================

    Mark is not making football decisions. McKenzie and Allen are. Mark is not walking around 1220 Harbour Bay Parkway demanding to see cutups of matt Barkely and Jesse Williams. That’s what he hired McKenzie and Allen for.

  86. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    im hardly a troll. just a Raider fan posting my opinion just like corky does. I guess a troll is anybody that goes against u or that average qb in palmer

  87. edward teach Says:

    55.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    This is all i am saying..Its about evaluating talent at this point. Can Pryor be on the roster next year?They are gonna find out. Playoffs are done. This team is not going anywhere this season. Play him.

    Every other young guy is playing. Streater, Bilkidi, Bergstrom, CRINER, even practice squard JEREMY STEWART is playing.

    Why not PRYOR. Stop treating the guy with kid gloves. He he fails then u cut him.

    ********************************************************

    Pryor most likely hasn’t seen the field yet because of a combination of factors, not the least of which is the fact that he wouldn’t have much of a supporting cast around him should he actually get in a game. Like Palmer or hate him, he’s a veteran and the older guys can handle that better than rookies, which Pryor is for all intents and purposes.

    Look at the problems a veteran QB is having with receivers dropping balls and running the wrong routes, and a porous o-line. Not a recipe for rookie success, and if you want a kid to succeed you shouldn’t throw him into that if you don’t absolutely have to.

    I don’t know if Pryor’s ready for prime time or not; I don’t see him in practice or have any idea of his grasp of the offense. What I do know is that history has been a whole lot kinder to the young guys that have a supporting cast than it has been to the ones that don’t.

    That said, the season is obviously beyond salvaging now and I would like to see him get some snaps and show what he’s got. It would be nice to see if the team has something there.

  88. Seymour Bush Says:

    Did Al even bring Mark peewee golfing?
    Ok, how about when Mark was in his teens?
    Never saw a picture with Mark and Pops, anywhere.
    Was Al ashamed of Mark?
    Pimples?
    Giggling everytime Amy walked by?
    I mean, I do that, so why keep Mark in Siberia?
    WAIT..DO YOU THINK IT WAS MARK’S HAIRCUT???

    I’ll bet that’s it.

    Oh man..a trip to Super Cuts and Mark would have been golden.

  89. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Mark is making the football choices. did u not hear his presser last week? did u not hear him tell reggie to tell the coaches to talk to DMAC about his fav plays?

    He has ultimate control on who to fire and who to let stay. STop thinking Reggie is the final say. He is not. Mark said he talks to Reggie everyday. Mark and Reggie where waiting for DA in his office after the saints game.

  90. mcfadden20. Says:

    QB that wasn’t group of wave of future but better record than all the qb’s from that category Andrew Luck > RGIII, CAM NEWTON, RUSSELL WILSON, JOSH FREEMAN, any doubts, check the standings

  91. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Legit question is being asked by Mark to reggie. Is palmer someone you are gonna build a young team around?
    ==========================================

    Mark is not making football decisions. McKenzie and Allen are. Mark is not walking around 1220 Harbour Bay Parkway demanding to see cutups of matt Barkely and Jesse Williams. That’s what he hired McKenzie and Allen for.
    ——————————
    Hark, I’m such a girlyman.
    It’s not Harbour Bay, it’s Harbor Bay Parkway.
    Shoot!!
    I hate this spelling thing. MOM?????

  92. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Lol even philip wheeler admitted he takes out palmer in madden and puts in Pryor. Vets will roll with the young kid if he is making plays, extending drives with his feet and controlling the game and keeping Defense’s honest with his feet, being able to move.

  93. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I think David jr is showing he is more about football than he lets on.

    This includes storming into the locker room after a loss & blasting Allen & big Mack

    He sound like pops when he said ” you have players you have coaches we have to be raiders”

    IM LOVING BEING A RAIDER FAN THIS WEEK!!

  94. Seymour Bush Says:

    Let’s see how long it takes for these trolls to get banned.

  95. JB Says:

    Manti Te’o is our best option for our #1 pick of the NFL draft. He’s as sure a thing as here will ever be. Not only is he a great player, more importantly, he’s a leader who can grasp hold of the D, shake the hell out of it, eject slackers and demand a new level of defense. He so much more than just a great pass rusher. That’s why he’s the man that we need.

  96. morilla Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    Mark is making the football choices. did u not hear his presser last week? did u not hear him tell reggie to tell the coaches to talk to DMAC about his fav plays?

    He has ultimate control on who to fire and who to let stay. STop thinking Reggie is the final say. He is not. Mark said he talks to Reggie everyday. Mark and Reggie where waiting for DA in his office after the saints game.
    ————

    Actually, I think the story is that Dmac went to Mark first.

  97. mcfadden20. Says:

    If LUCK can come in his freshman year, and take them to playoffs, why can’t Cam Newton ? why does he s8ck so much?? please no excuses

  98. Seymour Bush Says:

    Anyone here ever switch hands at the last second, to give yourself the idea you’re on a double date?
    Try it. Kind of fun.

  99. aryanation Says:

    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Mock drafts have geno going first overall to the queefs…… DEAR GOD NO!!!!====== DEAR GOD YES!!! LET THE CHEFS HAVE THE NEXT JAFATASS RUSSELL!!!….ANOTHER DUMB LOSER

  100. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Freeman & Wilson & luck ate all my guys Mac sadsack20

    Try again

  101. jackasspuria Says:

    Terrelle Pryor has the speed to run the play action bootlegs with much more efficiency.

    However, the small sample size we saw in preseason showed Pryor has accuracy issues.

    He can make pretty plays (Pryor’s play action bootleg bomb and eventual TD to a streaking Juron Criner in preseason), but he’s also prone to make ugly plays.

    I would love to see what Pryor can do in a meaningful (meaningful as in regular season and not a preseason) game.

    But, it’s not like Palmer is stinking up the joint. He is playing well.

  102. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Freeman & Wilson & luck are all my guys Mac sadsack20

    Try again

  103. aryanation Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    If LUCK can come in his freshman year, and take them to playoffs, why can’t Cam Newton ? why does he s8ck so much?? please no excuses ================ NEWTON = TOO STUPID TO READ A DEFENSE

  104. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    I think David jr is showing he is more about football than he lets on.

    This includes storming into the locker room after a loss & blasting Allen & big Mack

    He sound like pops when he said ” you have players you have coaches we have to be raiders”

    IM LOVING BEING A RAIDER FAN THIS WEEK!!

    YEah im sure this is the greatest storyline ever i hope they make a movie after this move some movie like Moneyball, and call the “Legacy Move”

  105. r8eray Says:

    tEsT

  106. aryanation Says:

    LUCK = SMART … NEWTON = STUPID

  107. Raider E Says:

    Great post Teach

  108. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    I think David jr is showing he is more about football than he lets on.

    This includes storming into the locker room after a loss & blasting Allen & big Mack

    He sound like pops when he said ” you have players you have coaches we have to be raiders”

    IM LOVING BEING A RAIDER FAN THIS WEEK!!
    ============================================
    Nothing worse than someone stating MY BELOVED RAIDERS when it’s obvious you are a plant, here only to disturb the flow of Raider talk.

    Ya, you’re loving it. CP looked bad, which gives you more ammo for your racist propaganda that you insist on infecting this board with.
    Board was a well oiled machine before the Racist Trio got on their pedestal.

    Shame on you, Priest, and Kell, the biggest hater of all.

  109. aryanation Says:

    LUCK = WINNER … NEWTON = LOSER

  110. mcfadden20. Says:

    But you said Luck isn’t even on Griffin’s level , why is Luck so much better than RGIII, remember colts didn’t give up kings ransom to get Luck , Washington gave up 3 1st rd picks 1 2nd rd pick, he better win like 2 superbowls , or that would be considered the worst trade ever

  111. mcfadden20. Says:

    Luck only cost 1 pick ,and leading colts to playoffs, RGIII cost 3 1st rd picks and 1 2nd rd pick and leading Washington to top 10 pick

  112. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I hope tp6 plays when dmac is back!!!

    The zone spread would be perfect!!!

    Dmac ran inside zone to perfection at ark.

    Him in the backfield with Pryor?!!?

    With dmo & dhb & Reece?!??!

    WE WILL HAVE A SPACE AGED ATTACK!!!!

  113. mcfadden20. Says:

    Washington gave up all those picks to win now ,not get another top 10 pick next year

  114. ...And Justice for AL Says:

    Um…. I have an opinion. But I’m not going to speak them.

  115. mcfadden20. Says:

    Luck has more wins in his first year than Cam Newton combined in 2 years, Luck >> Cam Newton please don’t make excuses okay, Car used 1st on Cam to get them out of the gutter, not keep them in the gutter, again no excuses please, Cam s8cks

  116. ...And Justice for AL Says:

    I vote for the SPACE AGE ATTACK!

  117. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Luck isn’t on the same planet as RGIII.

    However luck is very good & I had him number 2 on my qb draft board.

    What else do you have? Lol

  118. Raider E Says:

    Dmac, Pryor, and Reece. Let’s see this happen.

    It is at least something to look forward to.

  119. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Thank god for RGIII cam newton & Colin kapernic

    The wave of the future is here & his name is

    TERRELLE PRYOR
    _________

    0 regular season snaps LOL. I hope you’re right SupaVillain!

  120. Raider E Says:

    I hope he is right too. Give us fans some damn hope,for real.

  121. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Luck isn’t on the same planet as RGIII.

    However luck is very good & I had him number 2 on my qb draft board.

    What else do you have? Lol


    Yeah, yeah , bla blah , you know you freaking hate that white QB is having more success than black qb

  122. Raider guy Says:

    I like da and I think they should continue to roll with him.

  123. mcfadden20. Says:

    Griffin is a bust if he doesn’t lead them to 2 superbowls in 5 years, i don’t remember anyteam giving up 3 1sts and 2 2nds to trade up just 4 spots to grab a guy, Washington mortgaged their future all on 1 guy

  124. Raider E Says:

    Mistic,

    You really have a draft board? Do you have a job too? Where do you find the tiempo, hombre?

  125. mcfadden20. Says:

    and if you had Luck ranked 2nd then you don’t know anything about QB’s Mistic, Luck is the best in the league right now

  126. Raider E Says:

    Luck is not the best in the league, mijo.

  127. DJ Johnny Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    Lol even nick foles is in the shotgun spread running zone option

    I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THE. EW FOOTBALL PARADIGM IN OAKLAND PILOTED BY TP6!!!!

    Spread the defense pressure the edges with play action roll outs use dhb & dmo on reverses & fly sweeps.

    Let tp6 throw it deep when the defense bites the play fakes

    I know you’re excited Mistic, but this doesn’t sound like he’s gonna start anytime soon.

    I have said it before,…I want to see this kid play too. Especially now that we are out of it.

    I believe Mark wants to see it too. This was dad’s last pick of his life and no doubt Mark wants to see what he can do. But…i don’t get why we think we are gonna see him start anytime soon.

  128. Raider O Says:

    You Monkeys are pathetic. Race baiting on a raiders blog?!
    Mistic is black and he likes black QBs. There is nothing wrong with that, so get over it.

  129. ...And Justice for AL Says:

    Mark showing some balls. I hope he turns out just like big AL. Al Davis was a bad ass.

  130. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Lol macnugget is melting down.

    Couldn’t resist showing your true colors & dividing qb along skin color again could you?

    I say i like luck & you say ” blah blah blah”‘

    Lol

  131. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    It’s funny how some blogsters have their draft boards and rank players. They also defend their stance, even if it’s absolutely wrong. lol

  132. Raider E Says:

    Black? Mexican? White? Asian? Who gives a f*ck?

    Can he play?

    Thats what I wanna see.

  133. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    he is a davis….players matter….coaches coach them if they cant they get booted…

  134. Raider E Says:

    Black=White=Asian=Mexican=Native

    You are not better because of your color….

  135. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I actually respect Mistic because he’s a Supavillain and some people don’t get it. lol

  136. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Black? Mexican? White? Asian? Who gives a f*ck?

    Can he play?

    Thats what I wanna see.

    No purple QB. I don’t trust those baztards.

  137. Raiders for life Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Black? Mexican? White? Asian? Who gives a f*ck?

    Can he play?

    Thats what I wanna see.

    ###################

    No sht, I’d take a midget pygmie if he or she could win.

  138. Raider O Says:

    I’m sick of reading this crap. Black QBs vs white QBs!
    Ignore the race baiting trolls.

  139. Gdog Says:

    I swear, the Raiders probably are the only team in the NFL that is debating about a franchise QB that is playing well enough to possibly make the pro-bowl. Like he is our BIGGEST problem.

    Good gawd this forum is unreadable most of the time.

  140. Raider E Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    he is a davis….players matter….coaches coach them if they cant they get booted…

    ——————————-

    This is the truth. Why do you think Marcus came and lit the torch?

    Because Mark and Carol have had him on the xmas card list this whole time.

    Mark is a players owner, just like Daddy.

    Coaches be damned….

  141. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Habibi ya nour el mashallah!!!

  142. Raider O Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Black? Mexican? White? Asian? Who gives a f*ck?

    Can he play?

    Thats what I wanna see.

    No purple QB. I don’t trust those baztards.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Green QBs are the best.

  143. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Lol macnugget is melting down.

    Couldn’t resist showing your true colors & dividing qb along skin color again could you?

    I say i like luck & you say ” blah blah blah”‘

    Lol

    But we know you ain’t really pleased that a white guy is having more success than your #1 guy on the board, who Washington gave up kings ransom for to win now, sorry m1st1c , Luck is better, hence why he got drafted by a team who last drafted P Manning with #1 pick

  144. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    WOW GRUDEN ON CAMS NUTS!!!!!

    Don’t look now but over the last two weeks cam has played very well & is shaking the sophomore slump.

    WHAT WILL TP6 do?

  145. Raider O Says:

    Habibi,

    These monkeys are crazy (mejaneen).
    Allah should punish them with a disease that changes their skin color.

  146. mcfadden20. Says:

    November 26th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    I swear, the Raiders probably are the only team in the NFL that is debating about a franchise QB that is playing well enough to possibly make the pro-bowl. Like he is our BIGGEST problem.

    Good gawd this forum is unreadable most of the time.

    —–

    LOL, i don’t want to talk about Palmer, I’m fan of QB’s and i think #1 and top picks should perform really well , but so far C Newton have less wins in 2 years combined than A Luck and Washington gave up kings ransom for Griffin to win now, not get a top pick, agree M1st1c?

  147. Raider E Says:

    Black guys show the white guys lol….

    just joking. Stripes reference. Bill murray was funny.

  148. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    lmfao!

    Post of the month

  149. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hmmm who takes newton when Rivera gets canned?

    I bet there are coaches salivating for the chance to work with newton.

    Gruden anyone?

  150. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Black? Mexican? White? Asian? Who gives a f*ck?

    Can he play?

    Thats what I wanna see.

    ###################

    No sht, I’d take a midget pygmie if he or she could win.

    I’d take a flaming drag queen who wears a dildo hat on the sidelines and sports a pink nitegown at his/her post game presser if it helps us win.

  151. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    WOW GRUDEN ON CAMS NUTS!!!!!

    Don’t look now but over the last two weeks cam has played very well & is shaking the sophomore slump.

    WHAT WILL TP6 do?


    Sorry he has failed, they drafted him to win now not wait 10 years, look at what Luck is doing in his first year, no problem at all, C is still struggling to get 5 wins

  152. Raider E Says:

    Mistic,

    You wanna make a wager?

    I bet TP6 can come in have an awesome game with one turnover and we still get blown out.

    Loser of the bet cannot post for a week. Deal?

  153. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Hmmm who takes newton when Rivera gets canned?

    I bet there are coaches salivating for the chance to work with newton.

    Gruden anyone?

    — yeah I’m pretty sure there are coaches salivating to coach a guy who have 5 combined wins in 2 years

  154. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Great weekend for Mistic. The Raiders lose and the Panthers win. He has to be sky high right now.

  155. rodn5yn Says:

    I’m sick of the Palmer fanboys. Yes, he’s thrown for a lot of yards. No, he’s not the sole blame for any of our losses.

    I’d rather have him hit a few of those open receivers that would have been touchdowns that he’s missed. He always under throws Hayward Bey on routes when he’s behind the D.

    What good is it to throw for 300 yards and 1 TD, and miss wide open receivers behind the defense, and don’t forget the pick 6’s.

  156. Back-n-Black Says:

    Andy Reid will be available in the next few weeks…

  157. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hmmm 2 td passes 2 rushing tds

    I KNOW DAVIS IS WATCHING KAPERNIC NEWTON & RGIII THAT IS WHY HE PULLED A DAVIS SR & MANDATED PRYOR TO PLSY SOON!

  158. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Mistic,

    You wanna make a wager?

    I bet TP6 can come in have an awesome game with one turnover and we still get blown out.

    Loser of the bet cannot post for a week. Deal?

    LOL you’re putting yourself in bad position , Remember M1st1c have other screen names he can always pop up on like RaiderDebo, do you have the same skills?

  159. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I think Gannon needs to get a gig as a QB coach. He’d be great!

  160. 504 Raider Says:

    34.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    LOL, Gruden just said Newton and Murphy were teammates at Florida.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I do believe they were. Cam was there for a quick min until the laptop incident and his dismissal. Then went to juco and Auburn won a recruiting war with Miss State for his services. Miss State was in the mix because of the HC, former Florida OC Dan Mullin. He was going to Miss State until Auburn booster hooked Cecil up with $200K

  161. mcfadden20. Says:

    rodn5yn Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    I’m sick of the Palmer fanboys. Yes, he’s thrown for a lot of yards. No, he’s not the sole blame for any of our losses.

    I’d rather have him hit a few of those open receivers that would have been touchdowns that he’s missed. He always under throws Hayward Bey on routes when he’s behind the D.

    What good is it to throw for 300 yards and 1 TD, and miss wide open receivers behind the defense, and don’t forget the pick 6’s.

    —-

    hmmm,You forgot the first time poster long time reader part

  162. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Cam did great against the Eagles Defense? LOL

  163. zopi Says:

    Not a lot of talent around Palmer?
    And he’s having a “career” year?
    He’s a fantasy football dream, the real issue is that the stats are hollow, according to LoNeal, and according to Romo, a good player that has never been able to put 52 players on his back and make them compete at a higher level as well as questioning his leadership qualities.

    Mark Davis is right when he said that everyone knew that this team didn’t have super bowl quality, except for a few in this blog, but that doesn’t mean the talent in the team isn’t good enough to compete.

    The debate of lack of talent vs not-effective staff is the key. On one side, people say it’s because the talent is not here, on the other side you have people who question the effectiveness of Junior and staff. Plus, whether it’s still Mr. Davis fault or BigMac’s inexperience, these debates will be here as long as the Raiders keep losing, and yet, if they manage to lose to Cle and KC, now that would be the real chaos.

  164. mcfadden20. Says:

    C’mon M1stic why you ignoring me?? Luck comes in and instantly leads his team to playoffs, while Cam is still struggling to win 5 games in 2nd season? Car made a huge mistake no?

  165. Raiders for life Says:

    Damn Dj, that was fkn funny. omg I’m still laughing. good one lol

  166. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I’m sick of the Palmer fanboys”

    And we are sick of you as well!

  167. rodn5yn Says:

    The first big run in the Cinci game came right through Mcclain’s gap. He’s like Palmer. Does some good stuff, but not the stuff that can have a real impact on games.

  168. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I’m out fellas brace your selves for the tp6 on slaught

    & save your autograph Palmer jock strap ( complete with skid marks) it will be your only proof he was here if Pryor flashes when he plays.

    Good night

  169. DJ Johnny Says:

    Why wait. Just start Pryor against Cleveland.

    Who cares? As much as i’d like to see a Raider win someday it’d be interesting to see TP6 take the field and see what he can do.

    Maybe he can run us to the 50 pt’s we need to win.

  170. Gdog Says:

    Bigger problems than Carson Palmer:

    1. Coaching
    2. Replacing our entire right side of the o-line
    3. Acquiring a NFL quality FS.
    4. Teaching our entire defense to tackle on EVERY DOWN.
    5. Replacing our MLB.
    6. Acquiring a TE that can block, and also catch passes in the endzone.
    7. Acquiring an actual number one receiver.
    8. Finding IMPACT players on defense that Cork keeps addressing.

    These are EIGHT concerns that are 1000 times more important than CP. And they are all UNKNOWNS… meaning it is something that may never be fixed. We know already CP is our QB for another year… and all everyone does is argue about him.

    Its maddening…

  171. mcfadden20. Says:

    So this is the standard now , draft a guy # 1 and wait 5 years for him to get that team over 5 wins?

  172. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
    Damn Dj, that was fkn funny. omg I’m still laughing. good one lol

    I’m here for ya bro.

  173. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    I’m out fellas brace your selves for the tp6 on slaught

    & save your autograph Palmer jock strap ( complete with skid marks) it will be your only proof he was here if Pryor flashes when he plays.

    Good night


    HAHAHA ok good night, I’ll let you think about the answer , Why is Luck leading colts to playoffs in 1st year, while Cam struggling to win 5 games in 2nd year? Take your precious time LOL

  174. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Dj,

    hahahahaha. That’s awesome!

  175. Chris in NY Says:

    I’m hanging on a few more days just to see what Chubby Checker has to say for himself on Friday. Other than that I’m just about checked out on this whole situation.

    Last week I said it was the first time in nearly 30 years as a Raiders fan that I considered rooting against them just in hopes of expediting changes that need to take place at the top. However, I changed my mind because I wanted Palmer, who has been a class act and our best player (aside from maybe Janikowski), to do well in Cincy. Obviously that didn’t happen.

    Now, I’m pretty much torn between rooting for them to lose so that hopefully Mark comes to his senses, and really just not giving a sh!t. I also may just go out of my way to try to get banned from the blog, a la TK and Houston on Sunday.

  176. mcfadden20. Says:

    rodn5yn Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    The first big run in the Cinci game came right through Mcclain’s gap. He’s like Palmer. Does some good stuff, but not the stuff that can have a real impact on games.

    Great, now M1st1c instead of popping in with his new ID after leaving with his original ID, he comment with his new ID before leaving LMAO

  177. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Rodn5yn Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    I’m sick of the Palmer fanboys. Yes, he’s thrown for a lot of yards. No, he’s not the sole blame for any of our losses.
    ——-
    What Palmer fan boys? I don’t think anyone on this blog is in love with Palmer.

  178. 504 Raider Says:

    You know if we were to get Manti Teo it might just help put RoMac in the best situation. Since day 1 Romac never embraced being a vocal leader but he is talented and smart. Put him in a 3-4 with Teo and Burris on the Weak side and find a monster NT.

  179. rodn5yn Says:

    We definitely need a MIKE,and a FS. I like Gio, because he plays hard, but we need to upgrade all the same.

  180. Raider O Says:

    TP needs reps to develop. We all know CP is not the future, so we need to see what TP can do. We need to evaluate the young talent on our roster, so we can make better decisions in the offseason.

  181. mcfadden20. Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    You know if we were to get Manti Teo it might just help put RoMac in the best situation. Since day 1 Romac never embraced being a vocal leader but he is talented and smart. Put him in a 3-4 with Teo and Burris on the Weak side and find a monster NT.

    That would be great, Manti Te’o in 1st , NT in 2nd , Connor Barwin, Shaun Phillips or Anthony spencer in FA

  182. rodn5yn Says:

    Record some games, watch the D in slow mo, then come back and tell me how smart and talented Romac is. If he was anywhere near as good a MLB as Wheeler is an OLB, or even as good as Burris @ WOLB, our defense would look a lot different.

  183. jackasspuria Says:

    Manti Te’o could bring a fire and passion to the Mike linebacker spot. I say could because you never know who a draft pick will pan out, exactly.

    And for those that think drafting a linebacker high in the 1st with the NFL turning into a ‘passing league’, Te’o has done well in coverage with six interceptions.

  184. Seymour Bush Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    You know if we were to get Manti Teo it might just help put RoMac in the best situation. Since day 1 Romac never embraced being a vocal leader but he is talented and smart. Put him in a 3-4 with Teo and Burris on the Weak side and find a monster NT.
    ==========================================

    When you hear the players talk about taking the wrong gap and assignment breakdowns they are looking right at McClain. That guy probably played his worst game as a pro on Sunday. And notice how Mike Mitchell was nowhere near the field.

  185. DJ Johnny Says:

    We think WE have it bad how about the Eagles?

    They supposedly had a “dream team” and they are 3-8 too.

    Where do they go from here? Talk about hopeless.

    Blow it up, start from scratch, just so they can get to the talent level they already have now?

  186. rodn5yn Says:

    Let’s see what Manti Teo does against the winner of Georgia vs Alabama. Besides the pick, I hardly noticed him against USC.

  187. Seymour Bush Says:

    rodn5yn Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Record some games, watch the D in slow mo, then come back and tell me how smart and talented Romac is. If he was anywhere near as good a MLB as Wheeler is an OLB, or even as good as Burris @ WOLB, our defense would look a lot different.
    ====================================

    Thank you. On the 3rd and 1 early in the game, Green-Ellis just runs right by McClain. For 48 yards. Fire up the waiver wire.

  188. Raiders for life Says:

    Raider O…
    I agree, I’d like to know if Pryor is or is not the guy to take over after Palmer. But……what if he does need another off season to learn? Could be worth the wait.

  189. Raider O Says:

    Te’o improved in coverage this year, but I rather draft a DE, DT/ NT, or CB over LB in the 1st.

  190. zopi Says:

    I don’t believe any of the words that Junior said about Pryor. He was answering to someone from the Bay Area cess, err press pool, who probably follows this blog and wondered what a lot of us have been posting, what’s going on with Pryor?

    Junior on his usual robocoach speak, said much about to nothing. Skirting around the issue with the same bs, which, BTW, is the best quality Junior has shown so far, he doesn’t have a clue about leadership and coaching but he can robospeak with the best of them.

    You mean to tell me that you have seen Pryor from day one, and you still can’t figure him out. That’s lame. If you don’t like the player cut him and let him find his place in the league.

    What’s really sick is the whole issue about the race baiting that goes on this blog. That insanity must stop, but I understand that this insanity corrodes all public forums in here the USA, the real shame.

  191. mcfadden20. Says:

    I personally think they should go with Damontre Moore, can Play DE in 4-3 and can play OLB in 3-4

  192. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Does Manti have experience in the 3-4?

    I don’t like the idea of switching a player out of his natural position that he played in colleege.

    We’ve done it before and it hasn’t worked.

    Hope I’m wrong but I do like Manti.

  193. Raider O Says:

    Aldon Smith has more sacks than our entire Defense, and drafting Te’o is not going to help this issue.

    Btw, Aldon Smith > Von Miller

  194. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Te’o improved in coverage this year, but I rather draft a DE, DT/ NT, or CB over LB in the 1st.

    I agree with you

  195. Seymour Bush Says:

    You can find good ILB’s later in the draft. Good pass rushers you can’t.

  196. mcfadden20. Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    You can find good ILB’s later in the draft. Good pass rushers you can’t.

    — Correct.

  197. Raider O Says:

    Moore is a good pick and has ties to DA (Texas A&M).

  198. 504 Raider Says:

    If we went 3-4 defense next year Reggie’s first call should be to Gilbert Brown.

    Reggie: Gil what’s going on my friend?

    Brown: nothin much Reggie. you guys had a rough one this year huh?

    Reggie: yeah we’re running a 3-4 next year and need you bad buddy.

    Brown: you know my big azz can’t move no more.

    Reggie: you don’t have to move. after the snap just stay yo azz right there. get in the way.

    Brown: TO and you playing LB? when TO became a LB?

    Reggie: TO is our #1 pick from notre dame and McClain played for Saban.

  199. jackasspuria Says:

    I’d love to see Dee Milliner in a Raider uniform. He’s a head-hunting cornerback.

    If Raiders do go to a more 3-4 defensive look, then a pure-pass rushing LB will be a must and probably Oakland’s first-round pick.

    Like I’ve said before, Reggie McKenzie’s first pick in the draft will tell us all we need to know about which direction the Raiders are going in.

  200. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Gilbert was the size of a planet. You were in his world and the rest of the players would just orbit around him.

  201. Chris in NY Says:

    McClain is terrible.

    I’m a Notre Dame fan and while Te’o is a good player, I don’t think he’s worth a top-5 pick, especially for us. That’s more a statement about the position than the player. Though I don’t think Te’o is a Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher type difference-maker. Very few are.

    THE RAIDERS NEED PASS RUSHERS. Pass rushers are not easy to find. They’re a high priority in today’s league and Chubby Checker got us ZERO for the 2012 season. We’ll almost definitely need to spend our first-round pick on a pass rusher.

    After that they need three new offensive lineman. And a MLB replacement, but I think we can find a serviceable replacement far more readily than a premiere pass rusher.

  202. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    ten and then….

  203. Raider O Says:

    My choices:
    - CB Xavier Rhodes
    - DT J Hankins
    - DE D Moore

  204. 504 Raider Says:

    182.rodn5yn Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Record some games, watch the D in slow mo, then come back and tell me how smart and talented Romac is. If he was anywhere near as good a MLB as Wheeler is an OLB, or even as good as Burris @ WOLB, our defense would look a lot different.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Romac is just Slow. You can’t say the dude ain’t smart or talented. If Nick Saban says the cat is the smartest defensive player he has ever coached then I am going to go with something said from Saban. Not a dude from the blog and no disrespect to whatever the hell you do for a living.

  205. Raider O Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Gilbert was the size of a planet. You were in his world and the rest of the players would just orbit around him.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Huge man with visor = scary!

  206. jackasspuria Says:

    Remember John Marshall’s defense from a few years ago?

    He would routinely blitz the safeties and, more often than not, it would be both Huff and Branch coming downhill bearing on a QB.

    I remember thinking ‘who the hell is covering the back end?’

    But, before I could finish the thought, Branch or Huff, or another defender would get the sack.

    This season, those safety blitzes have been worthless…

  207. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    LOL O

    I like Xavier Rhodes as well.

  208. Seymour Bush Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    You can find good ILB’s later in the draft. Good pass rushers you can’t.

    — Correct.
    ========================================
    McFungus-Have you figured out yet why you can’t get a rise in your Levi’s?
    Remember, no peaking!

  209. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    jackasspuria Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Remember John Marshall’s defense from a few years ago?

    He would routinely blitz the safeties and, more often than not, it would be both Huff and Branch coming downhill bearing on a QB.

    I remember thinking ‘who the hell is covering the back end?’

    But, before I could finish the thought, Branch or Huff, or another defender would get the sack.

    This season, those safety blitzes have been worthless…
    _________

    Horrible job of disguising the blitz.

  210. KoolKell Says:

    Palmer is probably going to have to restructure next year.

  211. Gdog Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Thank you. On the 3rd and 1 early in the game, Green-Ellis just runs right by McClain. For 48 yards. Fire up the waiver wire.
    >>>>

    As soon as the play happened, I said “I bet he stuck his dick into one of the linemen” and sure enough he did.

    He doesn’t understand gap coverage (which is HORRIBLE for MLB) and he has no clue about shedding blocks.

    Is this guy go stupid he is uncoachable, or is there not a coach trying to correct his obvious bad habits? I have no idea.

    I see him out of football in two years though.

  212. Raider O Says:

    I like Xavier because we can minimize our risk by drafting a CB who has size and speed, and can always play S, if he doesn’t workout at CB.

  213. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    206….you cant blitz than play soft zone on the back end….need press man to buy the blitz a few seconds to get there…problem is reggie got rid of the press man corners and we got slow zone corners (and not good ones at that)…,

  214. Chris in NY Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    182.rodn5yn Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Record some games, watch the D in slow mo, then come back and tell me how smart and talented Romac is. If he was anywhere near as good a MLB as Wheeler is an OLB, or even as good as Burris @ WOLB, our defense would look a lot different.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Romac is just Slow. You can’t say the dude ain’t smart or talented. If Nick Saban says the cat is the smartest defensive player he has ever coached then I am going to go with something said from Saban. Not a dude from the blog and no disrespect to whatever the hell you do for a living.

    ————————–

    With all due respect to you and Nick Saban, McClain is indeed terrible. He’s not fast, he’s not remotely quick, he continuously makes the wrong reads, he has lazy feet and he doesn’t hustle.

    To be honest with you, I watched plenty of him at Alabama and saw this coming a mile away. I said he was basically a stats accumulator there who didn’t make many impact plays and was often jogging out there.

  215. Gdog Says:

    jackasspuria Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Remember John Marshall’s defense from a few years ago?

    He would routinely blitz the safeties and, more often than not, it would be both Huff and Branch coming downhill bearing on a QB.

    I remember thinking ‘who the hell is covering the back end?’

    But, before I could finish the thought, Branch or Huff, or another defender would get the sack.

    This season, those safety blitzes have been worthless…
    >>>>

    Safety blitzes are all about TIMING… and it doesn’t appear they even work on it. Its very alarming to me.

  216. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    zone defense on the back end with a safety blitz is perfect for qbs…they will take it every time….their favorite throw….

  217. KoolKell Says:

    Safety blitzes are all about TIMING… and it doesn’t appear they even work on it. Its very alarming to me.
    ————————-
    What are the coaches doing? What have they been doing all year.

  218. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Zone defenses work, just not with the players we have.

  219. Chris in NY Says:

    Yeah. Giordano blitzing from 10 yards deep has been worthless all season. By the time he gets to the LOS the QB is already releasing the ball. I think the coaches have backed off on this one of late, but it was pretty horrendous and a staple earlier in the season.

  220. mcfadden20. Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    206….you cant blitz than play soft zone on the back end….need press man to buy the blitz a few seconds to get there…problem is reggie got rid of the press man corners and we got slow zone corners (and not good ones at that)…,

    Yeah your right, that great Man D was at it’s finest in week 17 last year

  221. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    zone dont work look at our pass defense….

  222. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mctroll back for more…done licking yet?

  223. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Yeah. Giordano blitzing from 10 yards deep has been worthless all season. By the time he gets to the LOS the QB is already releasing the ball. I think the coaches have backed toff on this one of late, but it was pretty horrendous and a staple earlier in the season.
    ________

    So which one is it? The coaches never cared to correct the problem?

    Or we are stacked with worthless players?

    Crazy.

  224. mcfadden20. Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    mctroll back for more…done licking yet?

    So you don’t agree? wasn’t that best performance ever by Man D in week 17 , they saved the best for last eh?

  225. KoolKell Says:

    Palmer looked lost when he and knapp were sitting together on the bench. Totally lost. I feel bad for him.

    He’s probably going to have to restructure now.

  226. ron69 Says:

    I think Mclain can look much better in a 3-4 with a good lb beside him, is like watching Branch beside the worst player in footbal (Gio)Branch looks just awful, with Huff he was a much better player.

  227. Priesttj12 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    I think David jr is showing he is more about football than he lets on.

    This includes storming into the locker room after a loss & blasting Allen & big Mack

    He sound like pops when he said ” you have players you have coaches we have to be raiders”

    IM LOVING BEING A RAIDER FAN THIS WEEK!!
    ============================================
    Nothing worse than someone stating MY BELOVED RAIDERS when it’s obvious you are a plant, here only to disturb the flow of Raider talk.

    Ya, you’re loving it. CP looked bad, which gives you more ammo for your racist propaganda that you insist on infecting this board with.
    Board was a well oiled machine before the Racist Trio got on their pedestal.

    Shame on you, Priest, and Kell, the biggest hater of all*********************************
    Racist propaganda? Son exactly what are you talking about? what have I or either of these two said that is racist??

    I dare you repost one racist remark that I have made on here. Or is it that you hate Pryor so much that our talking him up seems racist to you…??

    Go ahead I dare you to post anything that I ahve said that is even remotely racist. This stuff has gone way too far I can praise any other QB or player just NOT as long as it is a black QB that in and of itself makes me racist………..Seymour Bush I used to respect you, this makes me think you’ve gone over the edge.

  228. mcfadden20. Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Palmer looked lost when he and knapp were sitting together on the bench. Totally lost. I feel bad for him.

    He’s probably going to have to restructure now.

    — You still up old man? i thought you would be ready to put your diapers on and hit the bed

  229. DJ Johnny Says:

    215,

    Shouldn’t we be seeing some indication by now that DA knows what the heck he is doing?

    THAT is what has me worried. He’s the HC for crying out loud.

    I am against firing the HC every dang yr. which is why they should have kept Hue and then thought carefully about who would be our next coach.

    It’s embarrassing for the org. to fire yet another HC after his 1st yr. but I have no faith whatsoever in DA right now.

    If we were seeing some progress, or some sign that this guy knows what he is doing i wouldn’t mind being 3-8.

    IMO he has no clue how to win a football game. He sticks stubbornly to this stupid zbs that doesn’t work and for being a “defensive minded” HC…just look at that defense.

    Usually when a guy has “got it”, by now u would start to see some semblance of….SOMETHING!

    All he has done is brought embarrassment
    with these record setting losses and his stubborn adherence to things THAT DON’T WORK.

  230. Priesttj12 Says:

    The least of Palmers worries are his finances. He was wel offf long before he drew a NFL paycheck.

    Palmer is embarrassed at the way we are performing and most importantly himself. I think he expected much better.

  231. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    WOW !

    Earth shattering, I tell ya.

    Tits and Krapp DISCUSSED using TP !

    Of course, TP should have been used in some packages already, but let’s be grateful they’re DISCUSSING the possibility of using TP.

    This staff is so lost, so unimaginative, and so far behind the learning curve – that even a discussion about finally using TP is considered newsworthy.

    Personally, I won’t be surprised if TP is inactive once again. Just as he has been every single week.

    Activating TP and giving him a taste would have been a tragic mistake and possibly derailed our SB run.

    Besides, we can’t be wasting time on seeing what TP might be able to do – when Matt Lice is clearly the future.

    What a staff ! What vision ! What leadership !

    Sure hope T&K are back in 2013.

  232. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Palmer is probably going to have to restructure next year.
    ——————

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    He’s probably going to have to restructure now.
    ———————————————–
    You post the same thing, 16 min apart? Are you so despe-rate for attention that when someone doesn’t reply, you post it again?
    If you said something worth commenting about, someone would reply. When you get no reply, it’s not code for post it again.

  233. mcfadden20. Says:

    I just want to win, so idiots can stop discussing, last year and late round picks , taiwan jones, and terrelle pryor

  234. mcfadden20. Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Palmer is probably going to have to restructure next year.
    ——————

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    He’s probably going to have to restructure now.
    ———————————————–
    You post the same thing, 16 min apart? Are you so despe-rate for attention that when someone doesn’t reply, you post it again?
    If you said something worth commenting about, someone would reply. When you get no reply, it’s not code for post it again.

    Al_the_troll, M1st1c, beech have same problems

  235. KoolKell Says:

    He hoped for much better. But taking a gunslinger and turning him into a rollout dink & dunk?

  236. JB Says:

    AP_NFL ‏@AP_NFL

    Titans fire off. coordinator Chris Palmer after 4-7 start http://yhoo.it/10LChUz (@teresamwalker) #nfl
    ******************

    Take note Raider leadership. This is how you start righting the ship. Knapp is an anchor dragging us to the bottom. CUT HIM LOOSE BEFORE WE ALL DROWN!

  237. KoolKell Says:

    I guess the .fanboys are getting upset. Lol.

  238. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raiders routinely treat the 1st quarter as their “warmup” period.

    It seems they are just willing to try a few lame play calls without any effort or intention of really doing anything…like they are “testing” the d to see what formations they’re gonna give us for the day.

    Meanwhile, the other team gets busy scoring td’s and putting us out of it early.

  239. mcfadden20. Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    I guess the .fanboys are getting upset. Lol.

    You wish, we’re always excited whether we win with a black qb or white qb

  240. KoolKell Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    I guess the .fanboys are getting upset. Lol.

    You wish, we’re always excited whether we win with a black qb or white qb
    ———————–
    Whatever little boy.

  241. mcfadden20. Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    I guess the .fanboys are getting upset. Lol.

    You wish, we’re always excited whether we win with a black qb or white qb
    ———————–
    Whatever little boy.

    YOu wish we were mad, right? LMAO , don’t compare us with M1st1c who wants us to lose with a certain QB

  242. beechams gay lover Says:

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  243. DKnight007 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Te’o improved in coverage this year, but I rather draft a DE, DT/ NT, or CB over LB in the 1st.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Nah. The LB class is not too deep this year. Te’o is special and I would take him for sure over any CB or DT with a top 5 pick.

    Only other players I would want ahead of him is OLB Jones from Georgia or OLB/DE Moore from Texas A&M.

    I don’t trust any of the D-Linemen or LB coming out LSU, they are burnouts by the time they get to the NFL. They just want to get paid.

  244. The Mack Says:

    Man i just got knocked out of the playoffs in fantasy football tonight needed a big game from Carolina defense to save my season but it all went down the drain. Im upset. Smh

  245. mcfadden20. Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Te’o improved in coverage this year, but I rather draft a DE, DT/ NT, or CB over LB in the 1st.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Nah. The LB class is not too deep this year. Te’o is special and I would take him for sure over any CB or DT with a top 5 pick.

    Only other players I would want ahead of him is OLB Jones from Georgia or OLB/DE Moore from Texas A&M.

    I don’t trust any of the D-Linemen or LB coming out LSU, they are burnouts by the time they get to the NFL. They just want to get paid.

    —-

    Pass on Mingo and other LSU DE

  246. DJ Johnny Says:

    JB Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
    AP_NFL ‏@AP_NFL

    Titans fire off. coordinator Chris Palmer after 4-7 start http://yhoo.it/10LChUz (@teresamwalker) #nfl
    ******************

    Take note Raider leadership. This is how you start righting the ship. Knapp is an anchor dragging us to the bottom. CUT HIM LOOSE BEFORE WE ALL DROWN!

    And the thing is, if Reggie and DA are worried what the perception of firing an OC during the season would be…they shouldn’t. Knapp is just a coordinator…no one would think ill of us for doing that. They would understand.

    Plus, nobody is paying any attention to us anyway right now. Nobody cares. Even Palmer’s return to Cincy barely garnered any interest with ANYBODY.

  247. DKnight007 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    215,

    Shouldn’t we be seeing some indication by now that DA knows what the heck he is doing?

    THAT is what has me worried. He’s the HC for crying out loud.

    I am against firing the HC every dang yr. which is why they should have kept Hue and then thought carefully about who would be our next coach.

    It’s embarrassing for the org. to fire yet another HC after his 1st yr. but I have no faith whatsoever in DA right now.

    If we were seeing some progress, or some sign that this guy knows what he is doing i wouldn’t mind being 3-8.

    IMO he has no clue how to win a football game. He sticks stubbornly to this stupid zbs that doesn’t work and for being a “defensive minded” HC…just look at that defense.

    Usually when a guy has “got it”, by now u would start to see some semblance of….SOMETHING!

    All he has done is brought embarrassment
    with these record setting losses and his stubborn adherence to things THAT DON’T WORK.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Agreed. McK picking Allen as head coach was just a reach.

  248. Priesttj12 Says:

    He did, he thought he would be competing with PManning for the division crown. Instead of division clown………don’t get upset just being funny!

  249. Chris in NY Says:

    FROM THE ARCHIVE …

    Chris in NY Says:
    April 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
    RoCkwiThDaRaideR408 Says:
    April 21st, 2010 at 10:25 am
    Chris in NY Says:
    April 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am

    McClain is bust city.

    ——————————————————-
    lmao..ok buddy, give me three legit reasons for this statement,OTHER than, Nick Saban being his coach, Him having Mt.Cody in the middle, and his lack of “Raider” speed..

    ———

    1. I watched several games and he never stood out as a difference maker/play maker. More of a stats accumulater (which Kirk does just fine).

    2. You already noted how he’s arguably a product of the team/system he played on in college so I guess I can’t use that even though it’s a big factor. How about the fact that he’s very tall for a MLB and leverage could be an issue for him in beating blocks.

    3. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG6bwopKTc&feature=related and tell me what’s so special about his game that he should be the 8th player taken in the draft.

  250. mcfadden20. Says:

    Pass on Bjoern Werner DE FSU

  251. MistaBrown Says:

    DiKnight, remember last year when you were on your knee’s in front of Jeremy Lin? Yah me too! How is he doing since I told you he aint sh!t? Still cackling like the buffoon you are? Hows your Lakers looking behind GSW?

  252. mcfadden20. Says:

    one of these 3 guys should be available: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia, Manti Te’o ILB ND, Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M, all other picks would be busts

  253. Priesttj12 Says:

    JB Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
    AP_NFL ‏@AP_NFL

    Titans fire off. coordinator Chris Palmer after 4-7 start http://yhoo.it/10LChUz (@teresamwalker) #nfl
    ******************

    Take note Raider leadership. This is how you start righting the ship. Knapp is an anchor dragging us to the bottom. CUT HIM LOOSE BEFORE WE ALL DROWN!
    ********************************************
    Reggie’s arrogance wont allow him to admit a mistake. But Marks embarrassment may force him to do so. Mark Davis is without questions pissed at Reggie and his hires. In fact I would be shocked if Taiwan Jones doesn’t benefit from this in some degree the wya they’re treating that kid is just flat out stupid. It seems the more the media asked about him the further they buried him.

  254. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    Mistic,

    Enough of the Palmer crap. He is a decent NFL QB. Leave it alone, Playa.

    Let’s just stick behind all the Raiders, ok?
    …….

    Feel free to skip my post but

    7-14 isn’t good enough to me neither is a whopping 35 turnovers.

    I will never accept that from a qb on my team

    Why would you?

    ****************

    but ur not a raiders fan sullivan.

  255. Priesttj12 Says:

    We’re losing games by 20 pts. and he can’t get a snap? what is that??

  256. beechams gay lover Says:

    One time beech dawg picked up this midget at a bar. can i say midget or should I say little person?

  257. DJ Johnny Says:

    I too am sick of hearing DA and Palmer say ‘we’ve got to get better’. Do SOMETHING.

    As fans it’d be nice if they did do SOMETHING to show they are serious about winning.

    Picking up scrap heap lamers from other teams practice squads and then dumping them a few weeks later is not cutting it.

    Firing Knapp would be sign that this “new era” has a clue, and would at least show that they are somewhat interested in actually winning. Instead of talking about “we need to get better”.

    B.S. Say something meaningful. DO something meaningful.

    Throw us a bone.

  258. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Its clear Dennis Allen needs a pass rusher or two. A guy like Aldon smith or Von miller could single handly change a defense.

    Dennis Allen needs to win but he also need a pass rusher. It would be in the Raiders best interest to not win another game and improve their chances at taking a Von miller type 2.0.

    JARVIS JONES. They need at least a TOP 3 pick. It looks like Chiefs will get the number 1 pick.

  259. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?
    **************

    pal,er isn’t 7-14 dumfuk. it’s not baseball. he’s not a starting pitcher.

    the f@king team is 7-14!

    get it thru ur think stupid skull.

  260. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Aldon smith has 15 sacks.

    Von miller was rookie of the year last year and has 13 this.

    A guy like Jarvis would help Shaunessey like crazy.

  261. mcfadden20. Says:

    Jarvis Jones, Manti Te’o, Damontre Moore are all good , but the real question is are the raiders going to be base 4-3 or 3-4 full time or will they finally be multiple like they said they will be but we haven’t seen that yet

  262. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Why do I want a qb controversy?!?!!

    BECAUSE PALMER STINKS OUT LOUD & WE NEED A BETTER QB!!!

    Controversy means Palmer is being challenged for the job,( a job he never earned)we need this badly

    7-14 with 35 turnovers isn’t good enough. Not for me or big Mack or Davis!!!

    Why wouldn’t you want controversy?

    *******************

    then he said this:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
    Nobody said we ” we have a qb controversy”.

    I did however say that if Pryor shows a hint of what he showed in Detroit game we will have a qb controversy

    ****************

    this is the hypocritical twisted mind of missdick at work. clamoring for a controversy but saying he never said there was one.

    just such a dumdik.

  263. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Manti te’o, Jones or MOORE.. one of these 3 must be on the Raiders next year.

    Then start building.

  264. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Thank god for RGIII cam newton & Colin kapernic

    The wave of the future is here & his name is

    TERRELLE PRYOR
    **************

    hahahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!

  265. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?
    **************

    pal,er isn’t 7-14 dumfuk. it’s not baseball. he’s not a starting pitcher.

    the f@king team is 7-14!

    get it thru ur think stupid skull.

    – I asked him if C Newton failed since he can’t even win 5 games in his 2nd year while #1 pick this year A Luck is leading them to playoffs, he left in no time

  266. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    Hmmm does Pryor play this week? I say smart money is on the panther game making his first start.

    Let the kid split reps in practice for the next two weeks then give him the start at home vs the panthers.

    Also elevate him to no. 2 NOW!! So he can see mop up duty in the event of a blowout over the next two weeks or let him have a taste in relief of Palmer for a series or two during the next two weeks.

    I’m loving Davis jr right now!!!!

    ************

    LOL! this dude is so delusional. this is all taking place in his mind!

  267. KoolKell Says:

    Now Dr robert cross poster wants his share of the troll stage. Smh.

  268. mcfadden20. Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Now Dr robert cross poster wants his share of the troll stage. Smh.

    —-
    Why do you got a problem, just go to sleep old fool , it’s past your bed time

  269. Priesttj12 Says:

    This is maybe 2nd on my list as far as things that make me pissed at Reggie. How in the name of the NFL can you go into a season without an edge rusher?? What team does that?

    The guy may not be great at it as the next guy but to play the seaosn with out a designated edge rusher??

    That was as egregious as any error humpty dumpty has made.

  270. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    I think David jr is showing he is more about football than he lets on.

    This includes storming into the locker room after a loss & blasting Allen & big Mack

    He sound like pops when he said ” you have players you have coaches we have to be raiders”

    IM LOVING BEING A RAIDER FAN THIS WEEK!!

    **************

    with the great carson palmer as our quarterback!!!

  271. DKnight007 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    one of these 3 guys should be available: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia, Manti Te’o ILB ND, Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M, all other picks would be busts

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Any one of those players should be Raiders next year.

    If McK and Allen pick any other player besides those 3 within the top 5, than it will be a train wreck.

  272. dr_robert Says:

    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Mock drafts have geno going first overall to the queefs…… DEAR GOD NO!!!!====== DEAR GOD YES!!! LET THE CHEFS HAVE THE NEXT JAFATASS RUSSELL!!!….ANOTHER DUMB LOSER
    *************

    hilarious. cork makes a big deal about banning someone and this retard is still around. maybe it was the stupid fantasy partier.

  273. DJ Johnny Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    JB Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
    AP_NFL ‏@AP_NFL

    Titans fire off. coordinator Chris Palmer after 4-7 start http://yhoo.it/10LChUz (@teresamwalker) #nfl
    ******************

    Take note Raider leadership. This is how you start righting the ship. Knapp is an anchor dragging us to the bottom. CUT HIM LOOSE BEFORE WE ALL DROWN!
    ********************************************
    Reggie’s arrogance wont allow him to admit a mistake. But Marks embarrassment may force him to do so. Mark Davis is without questions pissed at Reggie and his hires. In fact I would be shocked if Taiwan Jones doesn’t benefit from this in some degree the wya they’re treating that kid is just flat out stupid. It seems the more the media asked about him the further they buried him.

    If it’s true that DA was ticked about Curry’s tweets imagine how he’s feeling about all that Hue love the players showed all week.

    Add that to the embarrassment of having Hue’s team hand him a severe and humiliating beatdown on Sunday?

    You can’t blame everythin on the lack of talent. DA is the guy who changed the offensive scheme.

    You’d think if he all this respect for Palmer, he’d at least put him in the position to at least get a win against his old team…knowing that would be a small victory for him personally. But no. He has this team unprepared and burdened down with a scheme that has proven to NOT WORK HERE.

  274. Los Raida Locos Says:

    These players are embarrassed by this coaching staff. All DA and knapp have done is put the players in a position to fail. No imagination in the running back sets. Horizontal passing. REALLY? No fckng holes for the best runner in the league to blow thru. Implementing a zone defense without the proper personel. No ability what so ever to make adjustments, let alone game planning to exploit the opponents weaknesses. No fire on the sidelines. Anybody who thinks its on the players is a DA nutt hugger, and you know there are not many knapp butthole surfers left.

  275. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Freeman & Wilson & luck ate all my guys Mac sadsack20

    Try again

    **************

    idiot missdick thinks if he has a token white guy, he can claim he’s not racist. nice try dumdik.

  276. mcfadden20. Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    one of these 3 guys should be available: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia, Manti Te’o ILB ND, Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M, all other picks would be busts

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Any one of those players should be Raiders next year.

    If McK and Allen pick any other player besides those 3 within the top 5, than it will be a train wreck.

    True, i Want D Moore DE , he’s our going to be our Julias Peppers

  277. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    I hope tp6 plays when dmac is back!!!

    The zone spread would be perfect!!!

    Dmac ran inside zone to perfection at ark.

    Him in the backfield with Pryor?!!?

    With dmo & dhb & Reece?!??!

    WE WILL HAVE A SPACE AGED ATTACK!!!!
    *************

    LOL! a space aged attack! this is awesome!

  278. Los Raida Locos Says:

    You’d think if he all this respect for Palmer, he’d at least put him in the position to at least get a win against his old team…knowing that would be a small victory for him personally. But no. He has this team unprepared and burdened down with a scheme that has proven to NOT WORK HERE.

    ———————————-

    DAs’ M.O. is pretty assed backwards. Your scheme will beat them so no need to look for the other teams weakness, hence no game plan. Aim low baby!

  279. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    Steve, did you just start reading this blog?===========

    Albert, that’s funny.

  280. Priesttj12 Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?
    **************

    pal,er isn’t 7-14 dumfuk. it’s not baseball. he’s not a starting pitcher.

    the f@king team is 7-14!

    get it thru ur think stupid skull.
    ********************************************
    That is how JC was judged prior to coming here all everyone talked about was his record asa LOSER! That is why Mistic1 sticks this in their faces every chance he gets.

  281. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
    Luck isn’t on the same planet as RGIII.

    However luck is very good & I had him number 2 on my qb draft board.

    What else do you have? Lol

    ***********

    yes. rg3 is in outer space having a space age attack. priceless.

  282. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Reggie is probaly gonna take the TOP Guard.

  283. dr_robert Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
    Mistic,

    You really have a draft board? Do you have a job too? Where do you find the tiempo, hombre?

    ************

    LOL!!! he has a draft board! this is making me laugh so f@king hard!

  284. mcfadden20. Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    one of these 3 guys should be available: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia, Manti Te’o ILB ND, Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M, all other picks would be busts

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Any one of those players should be Raiders next year.

    If McK and Allen pick any other player besides those 3 within the top 5, than it will be a train wreck.

    —-

    Nobody cares about JC , Hue , get over it

  285. Priesttj12 Says:

    The wya JC was treated in here you would’ve thought he played for the niners. They villified and demonized him at every turn and Mistic1 is just feeding them their meds with the same spoon.

  286. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
    You Monkeys are pathetic. Race baiting on a raiders blog?!
    Mistic is black and he likes black QBs. There is nothing wrong with that, so get over it.

    *************

    and if i liked white qb’s BECAUSE THEY WERE WHITE and i denigrated every white guy i could and defended every black guy i could, i wouldn’t be racist? stfu!

  287. DKnight007 Says:

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    These players are embarrassed by this coaching staff. All DA and knapp have done is put the players in a position to fail. No imagination in the running back sets. Horizontal passing. REALLY? No fckng holes for the best runner in the league to blow thru. Implementing a zone defense without the proper personel. No ability what so ever to make adjustments, let alone game planning to exploit the opponents weaknesses. No fire on the sidelines. Anybody who thinks its on the players is a DA nutt hugger, and you know there are not many knapp butthole surfers left.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

    Wasting talent like DMC is a sin all by itself.

    Freakin idiot coaching staff.

  288. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Check out Adam Caplans TOP GM list for this offseason. One guy stuck out to me. Some football anaylst on the radio the RAiders should call this guy and interview him. It was before they hired Mckenzie.

    “Tom Gamble/San Francisco 49ers/Director of Player Personnel: In my 14 years of covering the NFL, I don’t recall getting as many strong comments about a potential GM candidate from high-ranking personnel executives and NFL player agents as I’ve received about Gamble in doing research for this piece. In fact, one NFL GM said my list should start with Gamble for the very fact that he’s about as well-rounded of a candidate as you’ll find.

    And when you examine Gamble’s background, you can understand why.

    He got started in the NFL at a very young age — literally right out of college — with the Philadelphia Eagles in 1988. His father, Harry, was the president of the team at that time. And the younger Gamble was around football growing up. His father was a long-time coach (pro and college) and then moved on to become an NFL executive late in his career.

    Like his father, Tom Gamble is a rarity in NFL scouting departments these days: He not only has extensive pro and college scouting experience, he has experience with contract negations and the salary cap, and even has coaching experience (defensive assistant/quality control coach with the New York Jets for two seasons: 1995-1996) on the NFL side. While Gamble was promoted to his current role nearly two years ago, other teams have also been interested in him in recent years (St. Louis Rams and Oakland Raiders on more than one occasion).

    Now in his 25th NFL season, Gamble has worked for five teams over that time period and has touched just about every possible aspect on the personnel side. He has helped build 10 playoff teams (four with the Eagles, five with the Indianapolis Colts, and one with the 49ers—and very likely another one this season).

    Before taking a job with the 49ers back in 2005, Gamble worked for seven seasons as a college scout under former Colts GM Bill Polian, who is widely recognized as one of the best personnel evaluators in NFL history.

    “He’s got a complete grounding in the game. He grew up in the game,” Polian explained to me recently about Gamble. “This is exceedingly important when you consider there are a lot of issues that you have to deal with when becoming a general manager that will come up with a team. You’re at a big disadvantage if you don’t have this experience in dealing with everything. That’s why non-football people have a harder time succeeding. Because Tom has so much experience and grew up around the game with his dad, he’s going to be more prepared than most. That’s a huge advantage.”

    And it’s that extensive experience which should help Gamble land a GM job for next season.”

  289. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
    Mistic,

    You really have a draft board? Do you have a job too? Where do you find the tiempo, hombre?

    ************

    LOL!!! he has a draft board! this is making me laugh so f@king hard!

    —-

    I think Indy made a mistake taking #2 Ranked qb on Mist1cs draft board, aw lets hope they can get lucky like last #1 QB they picked

  290. dr_robert Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    I actually respect Mistic because he’s a Supavillain and some people don’t get it. lol

    ************

    he’s a super retard.

  291. DKnight007 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    one of these 3 guys should be available: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia, Manti Te’o ILB ND, Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M, all other picks would be busts

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Any one of those players should be Raiders next year.

    If McK and Allen pick any other player besides those 3 within the top 5, than it will be a train wreck.

    —-

    Nobody cares about JC , Hue , get over it

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Did the post talk about JC, or Hue??

    You reading something that wasn’t there fool? haha

  292. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/next-nfl-general-managers

  293. Dakota Says:

    Steve, I promise I will not say #%cktard anymore….I need this place to vent my frustration regarding the raiders or I may kill again, so just let me back in…..oh hey guys!

  294. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    WOW GRUDEN ON CAMS NUTS!!!!!

    Don’t look now but over the last two weeks cam has played very well & is shaking the sophomore slump.

    WHAT WILL TP6 do?

    ***************

    he will definitely sit the bench very well.

  295. mcfadden20. Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    These players are embarrassed by this coaching staff. All DA and knapp have done is put the players in a position to fail. No imagination in the running back sets. Horizontal passing. REALLY? No fckng holes for the best runner in the league to blow thru. Implementing a zone defense without the proper personel. No ability what so ever to make adjustments, let alone game planning to exploit the opponents weaknesses. No fire on the sidelines. Anybody who thinks its on the players is a DA nutt hugger, and you know there are not many knapp butthole surfers left.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

    Wasting talent like DMC is a sin all by itself.

    Freakin idiot coaching staff.

    LMAO dude the guy is injured , wasting his talents? hard to waste talents of guys who only play 6 games

  296. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Steve, did you just start reading this blog?
    You know someone went crying to momma and I think we should mass email cork asking for the names of the banned as well as the rats.

  297. mcfadden20. Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    one of these 3 guys should be available: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia, Manti Te’o ILB ND, Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M, all other picks would be busts

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Any one of those players should be Raiders next year.

    If McK and Allen pick any other player besides those 3 within the top 5, than it will be a train wreck.

    —-

    Nobody cares about JC , Hue , get over it

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Did the post talk about JC, or Hue??

    You reading something that wasn’t there fool? haha

    Sorry meant to reply to Priest and his JC blah blah

  298. DKnight007 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    These players are embarrassed by this coaching staff. All DA and knapp have done is put the players in a position to fail. No imagination in the running back sets. Horizontal passing. REALLY? No fckng holes for the best runner in the league to blow thru. Implementing a zone defense without the proper personel. No ability what so ever to make adjustments, let alone game planning to exploit the opponents weaknesses. No fire on the sidelines. Anybody who thinks its on the players is a DA nutt hugger, and you know there are not many knapp butthole surfers left.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

    Wasting talent like DMC is a sin all by itself.

    Freakin idiot coaching staff.

    LMAO dude the guy is injured , wasting his talents? hard to waste talents of guys who only play 6 games

    ^^^^^^^^
    Uhhh….you saw the way they were using DMC and wasting his talents in the weak azz ZBS scheme right?

    You saw how Knapp never called effective screens to DMC right?

  299. DKnight007 Says:

    You saw how Krappy wasn’t using Reece while DMC was playing right?

    By getting Reece more involved while DMC was playing, might have opened up more holes for DMC.

    I say might, because the ZBS still sucks for this team.

  300. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    Now Dr robert cross poster wants his share of the troll stage. Smh.

    **************

    i’m a cross poster? shut ur ridiculously stupid mouth. i spread more knowledge in one post than every post of urs combined.

  301. JB Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Check out Adam Caplans TOP GM list for this offseason. One guy stuck out to me. Some football anaylst on the radio the RAiders should call this guy and interview him. It was before they hired Mckenzie.

    “Tom Gamble/San Francisco 49ers/Director of Player Personnel: In my 14 years of covering the NFL, I don’t recall getting as many strong comments about a potential GM candidate from high-ranking personnel executives and NFL player agents as I’ve received about Gamble in doing research for this piece. In fact, one NFL GM said my list should start with Gamble for the very fact that he’s about as well-rounded of a candidate as you’ll find.

    And when you examine Gamble’s background, you can understand why.

    He got started in the NFL at a very young age — literally right out of college — with the Philadelphia Eagles in 1988. His father, Harry, was the president of the team at that time. And the younger Gamble was around football growing up. His father was a long-time coach (pro and college) and then moved on to become an NFL executive late in his career.

    Like his father, Tom Gamble is a rarity in NFL scouting departments these days: He not only has extensive pro and college scouting experience, he has experience with contract negations and the salary cap, and even has coaching experience (defensive assistant/quality control coach with the New York Jets for two seasons: 1995-1996) on the NFL side. While Gamble was promoted to his current role nearly two years ago, other teams have also been interested in him in recent years (St. Louis Rams and Oakland Raiders on more than one occasion).

    Now in his 25th NFL season, Gamble has worked for five teams over that time period and has touched just about every possible aspect on the personnel side. He has helped build 10 playoff teams (four with the Eagles, five with the Indianapolis Colts, and one with the 49ers—and very likely another one this season).

    Before taking a job with the 49ers back in 2005, Gamble worked for seven seasons as a college scout under former Colts GM Bill Polian, who is widely recognized as one of the best personnel evaluators in NFL history.

    “He’s got a complete grounding in the game. He grew up in the game,” Polian explained to me recently about Gamble. “This is exceedingly important when you consider there are a lot of issues that you have to deal with when becoming a general manager that will come up with a team. You’re at a big disadvantage if you don’t have this experience in dealing with everything. That’s why non-football people have a harder time succeeding. Because Tom has so much experience and grew up around the game with his dad, he’s going to be more prepared than most. That’s a huge advantage.”

    And it’s that extensive experience which should help Gamble land a GM job for next season.”
    *********************

    If things keep going the way there are right now, Mark Davis may decide there’s a GM opening in Oakland. RM hasn’t shown me anything to rave about so far. And, if he doesn’t square away DOA, they both might be out. Crazier things have happened in Oakland before. Mark probably has already figured out how to use the overhead projector by now.

  302. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?
    **************

    pal,er isn’t 7-14 dumfuk. it’s not baseball. he’s not a starting pitcher.

    the f@king team is 7-14!

    get it thru ur think stupid skull.
    ********************************************
    That is how JC was judged prior to coming here all everyone talked about was his record asa LOSER! That is why Mistic1 sticks this in their faces every chance he gets.
    ************

    as soon as someone says a word about wins and losses a qb has, i immediately know they have no depth of knowledge whatsoever. the easiest thing to point to and the mark of someone who can’t figure out anything else.

  303. DKnight007 Says:

    The next draft needs to seriously rebuild the Defense and then sign a Center and move Wiz back to LG and get rid of Knapp and Pollack and bring back Wylie and Wiz as OLine coaches and hire Saunders as the OC.

    They should draft a legit RT prospect somewhere also.

  304. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    Now Dr robert cross poster wants his share of the troll stage. Smh.

    **************

    i’m a cross poster? shut ur ridiculously stupid mouth. i spread more knowledge in one post than every post of urs combined.
    ——————————-
    In your persistent fantasy dreams, geez. Lol. How many names do you post under, Brien?

  305. mcfadden20. Says:

    CB’s Xavies Rhodes FSU, David Amerson,N.C. STate are projected to go in 2nd rd along with NT Jesse Williams of Alabama

  306. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
    Mistic,

    You really have a draft board? Do you have a job too? Where do you find the tiempo, hombre?

    ************

    LOL!!! he has a draft board! this is making me laugh so f@king hard!

    —-

    I think Indy made a mistake taking #2 Ranked qb on Mist1cs draft board, aw lets hope they can get lucky like last #1 QB they picked

    ************

    hahahahahhahaha!!!!! they didn’t consult mistic’s draft board!

    so fu@king funny.

  307. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Im just saying Reggie May be LEGIT GM.

    But it was really strange how Madden/ WOlf just told Mark to hire reggie. Mark never interviewed another candidate.

    WOlfe was almost campaigning for Reggie to hard. Did he want reggie to leave Green Bay so his son Eliot could get a PROMOTION?? hmmmmm

  308. DJ Johnny Says:

    It’s funny. Reggies one attempt at getting a pass rusher is halfway thru the season and acquiring an injured has-been named Andre Carter…who never plays, and when he does he does nothing.

  309. mcfadden20. Says:

    What you guys think about Tyson Jackson of KC? he’s due 14 M next year so they will definitely cut him or Glen Dorsey ?

  310. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    Now Dr robert cross poster wants his share of the troll stage. Smh.

    **************

    i’m a cross poster? shut ur ridiculously stupid mouth. i spread more knowledge in one post than every post of urs combined.
    ——————————-
    In your persistent fantasy dreams, geez. Lol. How many names do you post under, Brien?
    **************

    what are u even talking about moron? i tried to defend u a while back, and someone said u would soon say something out of the blue against me. and ur proving it.

    i used to be rob raider. was banned for making fun of the racists with over the top racism that cork couldn’t see the irony in.

    now, i’m dr robert, a shout out to the beatles by the way, which no one seems to have gotten.

    as for football knowledge, it’s widely accepted here that i know what i’m talking about. no one seems to respect ur opinion on anything.

  311. 504 Raider Says:

    JFB was telling us about the linky pass rusher from UCLA named Anthony Barr. After reading about this kid he should be one to keep an eye on. 6′4” 235 coming off the edge. Is in his first year on defense and is #8 nationally in sacks with 12.

    Played RB and TE his first two years at UCLA. If this kid has desire to be great he would be an awesome pick for us. Today maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick but have a feeling his stock will rise quickly.

  312. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
    Mistic,

    You really have a draft board? Do you have a job too? Where do you find the tiempo, hombre?

    ************

    LOL!!! he has a draft board! this is making me laugh so f@king hard!

    —-

    I think Indy made a mistake taking #2 Ranked qb on Mist1cs draft board, aw lets hope they can get lucky like last #1 QB they picked

    ************

    hahahahahhahaha!!!!! they didn’t consult mistic’s draft board!

    so fu@king funny.

    —-

    DOUBLE ROFLMFAO

  313. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hahahaha there is no doubt half of these cats are the same guy.

    Dr.rob is sully is mr is gradraider.

    It’s only too clear, I can tell by the borderline mental meltdowns, & the same motives.

    This guy is also fangs, oakfoshow, & a host of others.

    Sadly there are at least a few here that suffer the same illnEss apparently

    Cross posting, staged arguments for your multiple characters, wow.

    That is really quite sick

  314. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Ok now I’m gone

  315. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mctool is still in here…nice life.

  316. Dakota Says:

    Frak people, clean this poopy place up!

  317. mcfadden20. Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    JFB was telling us about the linky pass rusher from UCLA named Anthony Barr. After reading about this kid he should be one to keep an eye on. 6′4” 235 coming off the edge. Is in his first year on defense and is #8 nationally in sacks with 12.

    Played RB and TE his first two years at UCLA. If this kid has desire to be great he would be an awesome pick for us. Today maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick but have a feeling his stock will rise quickly.

    Sounds like 3-4 OLB too light , pass

  318. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Hahahaha there is no doubt half of these cats are the same guy.

    Dr.rob is sully is mr is gradraider.

    It’s only too clear, I can tell by the borderline mental meltdowns, & the same motives.

    This guy is also fangs, oakfoshow, & a host of others.

    Sadly there are at least a few here that suffer the same illnEss apparently

    Cross posting, staged arguments for your multiple characters, wow.

    That is really quite sick

    Hey man you still didn’t answer, how come luck is leading Colts to playoffs in first year, yet Cam Newton can’t even win 5 games in 2nd year?

  319. 504 Raider Says:

    I would take Dorsey’s heart and motor in Jackson’s body.

    They were both beasts at LSU with high motors. I haven’t seen that high motor from Jackson in KC and Dorsey has it but is injured often.

  320. dr_robert Says:

    i mostly spit truth here about the raiders.

    but i also like to make fun of beech, missdick, and fangs, the three stooges of the board.

    btw, missdick is definitely sullivan. i can see his style seeping thru. just a really bored mentally infirmed guy spending an obscene amount of time trying to fu@k with this board. always goes after the thing he thinks he can the biggest rise out of. for now, he’s going with the missdick-pryor-palmer angle.

    he will change gears when it suits him. it used to be the “i hate al davis” routine. and sullivan kept up that angle until it became apparent the raiders would still suck without al and it was harder to make anyone angry.

    now it’s palmer, cuz he actually knows he’s the best player.

    so he goes on and on about wins and losses and turnovers, completely ignoring every other truth.

  321. Los Raida Locos Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    What you guys think about Tyson Jackson of KC? he’s due 14 M next year so they will definitely cut him or Glen Dorsey ?

    —————————

    Our coaches wouldn’t know how to use them, so what does it matter. They mis-appropiately and in-appropiately abused McFadden so bad they injured him. I mean, 1 back who is going to get the ball because the formations tip off every single play? WTF. Only success we’ve had is when Palmer goes rogue with the no huddle and pushes knapp outta the way.

  322. DJ Johnny Says:

    Dr. Robert is NOT MR.

    I’m pretty sure of that.

  323. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    i mostly spit truth here about the raiders.

    but i also like to make fun of beech, missdick, and fangs, the three stooges of the board.

    btw, missdick is definitely sullivan. i can see his style seeping thru. just a really bored mentally infirmed guy spending an obscene amount of time trying to fu@k with this board. always goes after the thing he thinks he can the biggest rise out of. for now, he’s going with the missdick-pryor-palmer angle.

    he will change gears when it suits him. it used to be the “i hate al davis” routine. and sullivan kept up that angle until it became apparent the raiders would still suck without al and it was harder to make anyone angry.

    now it’s palmer, cuz he actually knows he’s the best player.

    so he goes on and on about wins and losses and turnovers, completely ignoring every other truth.

    nice observation, you might be onto something, but even if Mist1c is different guy, he’s st1ll annoying as f8ck, that no one really cares about except priest (when he’s trolling) or Kell when he’s mad at the whole world over nothing

  324. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
    Hahahaha there is no doubt half of these cats are the same guy.

    Dr.rob is sully is mr is gradraider.

    It’s only too clear, I can tell by the borderline mental meltdowns, & the same motives.

    This guy is also fangs, oakfoshow, & a host of others.

    Sadly there are at least a few here that suffer the same illnEss apparently

    Cross posting, staged arguments for your multiple characters, wow.

    That is really quite sick

    *************

    LOL! did u see that? he hasn’t posted since 8:25. said he was out. i post a bunch of stuff about him. kell calls me a crossposter. bam! he suddenly shows up to agree i’m all the idiots i’ve attacked and leaves. hilarious. he’s been here the whole time!

  325. mcfadden20. Says:

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    What you guys think about Tyson Jackson of KC? he’s due 14 M next year so they will definitely cut him or Glen Dorsey ?

    —————————

    Our coaches wouldn’t know how to use them, so what does it matter. They mis-appropiately and in-appropiately abused McFadden so bad they injured him. I mean, 1 back who is going to get the ball because the formations tip off every single play? WTF. Only success we’ve had is when Palmer goes rogue with the no huddle and pushes knapp outta the way.

    —-

    Look if you hate this coaching so much, maybe time to scout a winning team, no? cuz this coaching staff will be here again , they will be here atleast 3-4 years

  326. DJ Johnny Says:

    I don’t think Mistic is MR either.

    IF he were he is an enormously talented master of mis-direction and an uncanny ability to take on other personalities at will.

  327. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
    Hahahaha there is no doubt half of these cats are the same guy.

    Dr.rob is sully is mr is gradraider.

    It’s only too clear, I can tell by the borderline mental meltdowns, & the same motives.

    This guy is also fangs, oakfoshow, & a host of others.

    Sadly there are at least a few here that suffer the same illnEss apparently

    Cross posting, staged arguments for your multiple characters, wow.

    That is really quite sick

    ***********

    lol! where do u start with this moron?

    same motives as sullivan/mr? u mean how i love the raiders and make fun of anti-raiders like u?

    i’m fangs? oakfoshow? two guys i have routinely made fun of?

    staged arguments? good lord. what an imagination u have.

    a space-aged imagination.

  328. mcfadden20. Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    I would take Dorsey’s heart and motor in Jackson’s body.

    They were both beasts at LSU with high motors. I haven’t seen that high motor from Jackson in KC and Dorsey has it but is injured often.

    —-

    Yeah your right, but maybe when they will have to play for future contracts they might just play upto their potential

  329. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    i mostly spit truth here about the raiders.

    but i also like to make fun of beech, missdick, and fangs, the three stooges of the board.

    btw, missdick is definitely sullivan. i can see his style seeping thru. just a really bored mentally infirmed guy spending an obscene amount of time trying to fu@k with this board. always goes after the thing he thinks he can the biggest rise out of. for now, he’s going with the missdick-pryor-palmer angle.

    he will change gears when it suits him. it used to be the “i hate al davis” routine. and sullivan kept up that angle until it became apparent the raiders would still suck without al and it was harder to make anyone angry.

    now it’s palmer, cuz he actually knows he’s the best player.

    so he goes on and on about wins and losses and turnovers, completely ignoring every other truth.
    ————————–
    Joke.

  330. dr_robert Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    I don’t think Mistic is MR either.

    IF he were he is an enormously talented master of mis-direction and an uncanny ability to take on other personalities at will.
    ***********

    yes, and beech has admitted, although accidentally, that he considers himself a blog “personality” as well. either it is one sick fu@k who thinks al davis turned his mother out, or it is several guys in need of serious psychiatric help.

  331. Marks hair Says:

    Thanks cork. Fùck those bùttholes

  332. JB Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    What you guys think about Tyson Jackson of KC? he’s due 14 M next year so they will definitely cut him or Glen Dorsey ?

    —————————

    Our coaches wouldn’t know how to use them, so what does it matter. They mis-appropiately and in-appropiately abused McFadden so bad they injured him. I mean, 1 back who is going to get the ball because the formations tip off every single play? WTF. Only success we’ve had is when Palmer goes rogue with the no huddle and pushes knapp outta the way.

    —-

    Look if you hate this coaching so much, maybe time to scout a winning team, no? cuz this coaching staff will be here again , they will be here atleast 3-4 years
    ********************

    If that is true then they’ll be playing to an empty O.co.

  333. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    I don’t think Mistic is MR either.

    IF he were he is an enormously talented master of mis-direction and an uncanny ability to take on other personalities at will.
    ***********

    yes, and beech has admitted, although accidentally, that he considers himself a blog “personality” as well. either it is one sick fu@k who thinks al davis turned his mother out, or it is several guys in need of serious psychiatric help.
    ———————–
    I guess it was a couple of your sockpuppets that got banned today, AGAIN

  334. dr_robert Says:

    our golden haired hero.

    space-aged attack.

    at least missdick the supertard accidentally gives us great phrases to make fun of him with. he’s his own worst enemy.

  335. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    I don’t think Mistic is MR either.

    IF he were he is an enormously talented master of mis-direction and an uncanny ability to take on other personalities at will.
    ***********

    yes, and beech has admitted, although accidentally, that he considers himself a blog “personality” as well. either it is one sick fu@k who thinks al davis turned his mother out, or it is several guys in need of serious psychiatric help.
    ———————–
    I guess it was a couple of your sockpuppets that got banned today, AGAIN

    ****************

    this is too funny. pray tell kell. what exactly gives u the idea i cross post?

  336. Raider Riff Says:

    Hahaha…. Corkie is making threats….

    Why dont he threaten us with some decent reporting. That would be a sight.

    On a serious note, there’s a lot of people that need to get banned. This place would improve instantly.

  337. dr_robert Says:

    kell is just too dumb to be on the street alone. everyone here knows how much i have gone after beech. and beech is kell’s biggest enemy. and yet the big dummy comes after me. i guess he’s so shell shocked from all the attacks on him, that je’s punchy. doesn’t know what to do.

  338. mcfadden20. Says:

    Khaled Holmes, C, USC is projected to go in 3rd , he did pretty good job against Star Lotulelie, , Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M is also projected to go in 3rd

  339. dr_robert Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    Hahaha…. Corkie is making threats….

    Why dont he threaten us with some decent reporting. That would be a sight.

    On a serious note, there’s a lot of people that need to get banned. This place would improve instantly.
    ******************

    threaten us with decent reporting. now that made me laugh.

    no matter who u ban (and apparently it’s very random), they always come back. when i was banned, cork told me to do so. the anonymity of the blogosphere i guess. better to let the idiots pour it out on the blog and get their release than making them bottle it up and then go shoot a theatre full of people dressed as a supervillain.

  340. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    kell is just too dumb to be on the street alone. everyone here knows how much i have gone after beech. and beech is kell’s biggest enemy. and yet the big dummy comes after me. i guess he’s so shell shocked from all the attacks on him, that je’s punchy. doesn’t know what to do.
    ——————–
    I know who you are dummy, Brien. How many names are you posting under. I think your roster took a couple of hits today.

  341. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    our golden haired hero.

    space-aged attack.

    at least missdick the supertard accidentally gives us great phrases to make fun of him with. he’s his own worst enemy.

    Oh man you should have been here earlier, He said Bill Walsh must have showed something to be kept after 2-14 season, He had Joe Montana , who was 3rd rd pick , then Jimmy Johnson showed enough to be kept in his 1-15 year, and Bill belichic was a genius who predicted Tom Brady will be the next great 6th rd pick lmao

  342. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Barr to light?? please.. That guy is a machine.

    Von Miller is only 237 pounds. Thats what he is listed at.

    Pass rusher have explosion. DOesnt matter the weight.

  343. Marks hair Says:

    That texas a&m defense is a stat monster.. their dc is now fresno sts hc. And he took the players from a 4-9 team to 9-3 mw champs. From like 10 tournovers to 30 somthing.. a big lift in sacks too.. id wait to see how a&m guys look in the sr bowl workouts..

  344. Seymour Bush Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?
    **************

    pal,er isn’t 7-14 dumfuk. it’s not baseball. he’s not a starting pitcher.

    the f@king team is 7-14!

    get it thru ur think stupid skull.
    ********************************************
    That is how JC was judged prior to coming here all everyone talked about was his record asa LOSER! That is why Mistic1 sticks this in their faces every chance he gets.
    =============================================
    Lying. Again. That is not why Mistic sticks this in everyone’s faces. Show me one post from Mistic that backs you.
    You made it up to further your agenda.
    You can’t seem to tell the truth these days. Seems everyone is calling you on it.
    Wise up!

  345. mcfadden20. Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Barr to light?? please.. That guy is a machine.

    Von Miller is only 237 pounds. Thats what he is listed at.

    Pass rusher have explosion. DOesnt matter the weight.

    —-
    But Barr kid must b sophomore or something , i don’t see him on any of the mock drafts

  346. DJ Johnny Says:

    I do have to say I remember distinctly Dr. Robert going to war on behalf of Kell.

  347. mcfadden20. Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    That texas a&m defense is a stat monster.. their dc is now fresno sts hc. And he took the players from a 4-9 team to 9-3 mw champs. From like 10 tournovers to 30 somthing.. a big lift in sacks too.. id wait to see how a&m guys look in the sr bowl workouts..

    Pretty legit

  348. Raider E Says:

    I would love to see a QB KILLER out there. Greg Townsend, Howie Long, Chester….. Those guys were RAIDERS!!!!

  349. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    kell is just too dumb to be on the street alone. everyone here knows how much i have gone after beech. and beech is kell’s biggest enemy. and yet the big dummy comes after me. i guess he’s so shell shocked from all the attacks on him, that je’s punchy. doesn’t know what to do.
    ——————–
    I know who you are dummy, Brien. How many names are you posting under. I think your roster took a couple of hits today.
    ====================================
    You can’t be serious!
    You really need to put down that Schlitz Malt. Now you’re just sounding paranoid. What’s next? Going to claim that Brien is hiding in your tree?

  350. Raider E Says:

    Lance Johnstone was an angry man….

  351. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Yep barr wont be eligble till 2014 Draft.

    Another intersting guy is out of Oregon Dion Jordan. He will be drafted top 15 this year.

  352. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Not as bad ad I say?!?!?
    I didn’t say anything other than what he has done

    7-14 35 turnovers

    THAS pretty bad in my book

    How about you?
    **************

    pal,er isn’t 7-14 dumfuk. it’s not baseball. he’s not a starting pitcher.

    the f@king team is 7-14!

    get it thru ur think stupid skull.
    ********************************************
    That is how JC was judged prior to coming here all everyone talked about was his record asa LOSER! That is why Mistic1 sticks this in their faces every chance he gets.
    =============================================
    Lying. Again. That is not why Mistic sticks this in everyone’s faces. Show me one post from Mistic that backs you.
    You made it up to further your agenda.
    You can’t seem to tell the truth these days. Seems everyone is calling you on it.
    Wise up!

    ****************

    LOL! did anyone catch last week when missdick the supertard said he has made no claims about campbell’s bears career after he sucked so bad on monday?

    so, let’s see. he always claimed campbell was awesome. but when he sucks with the bears, he no longer claims him.

    snakes are squirmy and slippery.

  353. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I remember when some raider fans wanted Jason Pierre Paul.. and some other fans said he was a project.. a Height weight speed guy…

    well we ended up with McClain and Pierre paul??……welll u know how that goes.

    Sometimes its good coaching too. DIon jordan is an interesting prospect

  354. Raider E Says:

    Ted Hendricks was an angry man….

  355. Raider E Says:

    Phil Villapiano was an angry man.

  356. Seymour Bush Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    I do have to say I remember distinctly Dr. Robert going to war on behalf of Kell.
    ====================================
    And I remember him being told that Kell has a history of being a total dick-wad, and that soon he will see it.

    And now he has.

    Can’t say you weren’t warned, Dr. Rob

  357. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    our golden haired hero.

    space-aged attack.

    at least missdick the supertard accidentally gives us great phrases to make fun of him with. he’s his own worst enemy.

    Oh man you should have been here earlier, He said Bill Walsh must have showed something to be kept after 2-14 season, He had Joe Montana , who was 3rd rd pick , then Jimmy Johnson showed enough to be kept in his 1-15 year, and Bill belichic was a genius who predicted Tom Brady will be the next great 6th rd pick lmao
    ***************

    i’m telling u we’ve been going about this the wrong way. he is a valued member of this blog. the idiotic stuff he says is so funny now that i feel like i’m laughing at a black don knotts.

  358. KoolKell Says:

    Lol. Ahhhhhhhh. Smh.

  359. dr_robert Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
    I do have to say I remember distinctly Dr. Robert going to war on behalf of Kell.
    ***********
    well, let’s not get crazy. i asked why so many people rag on him. i admitted i hadn’t really paid much attention to him and didn’t see why he was such a bad guy. but it’s becoming more clear.

  360. KoolKell Says:

    Oooooooh.

  361. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    You can’t be serious!
    You really need to put down that Schlitz Malt. Now you’re just sounding paranoid. What’s next? Going to claim that Brien is hiding in your tree?
    *******************

    LOL! yeah. i’m brien, whoever that is. and i’m hiding in his tree. that is precious.

  362. KoolKell Says:

    HahaHahahaHahahahahahaha Hehehehehhehehe

  363. Raider E Says:

    Lyle Alzado was an angry man….

  364. Raider E Says:

    Bill Pickel was an angry man….

  365. Priesttj12 Says:

    Lying. Again. That is not why Mistic sticks this in everyone’s faces. Show me one post from Mistic that backs you.
    You made it up to further your agenda.
    You can’t seem to tell the truth these days. Seems everyone is calling you on it.
    Wise up!*********************************
    This is my opinion, if you want proof look it up your damn self. Mistic1 and I have discussed this to some degree all he does is get you fools riled up. It works y’all fall for it everytime. He hated the way JC was treated that I know for a fact because he’s the one who told me about JC previous to his first season here and supported him heavily while way to many others were hell bent to rip the guy every chance they got. He’s doing the same thing to Palmer. And it drives this board NUTS! Touche!

  366. dr_robert Says:

    let’s see. missdick could be jj from good times. kell is grady from sandford and son. priest would be george jefferson.

    is that racist?

  367. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Oooooooh.
    ————————–
    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Lol. Ahhhhhhhh. Smh.
    —————————–

    In back to back posts, minute apart, and that’s what comes to mind?
    That’s it?
    And you felt compelled to share that?
    You’re losing it, Kell.
    Hey, it’s almost 11. You’ve been here 12 hours straight. Shouldn’t you stretch, or something?

  368. KoolKell Says:

    Then you have Brien’s, klan

  369. Raider E Says:

    Bruce Wilkerson was a road grader

  370. Priesttj12 Says:

    Would that make you the Grand Wizard?

  371. Raider E Says:

    Don Mosebar was a road grader….

  372. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
    He’s doing the same thing to Palmer. And it drives this board NUTS!

    Touche!

    *******************

    no, i find him funny. in the same way i sometimes find a retarded kid yelling in safeway at the lunch meat kinda funny. sad, but a little funny.

    douche!

  373. Raider E Says:

    Mickey Marvin would kick everyone’s azz….

  374. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
    Would that make you the Grand Wizard?
    **********

    grand wizard theodore maybe. look it up.

  375. Raider E Says:

    Sean Jones was an angry man….

  376. dr_robert Says:

    i always liked vann mcelroy.

  377. dr_robert Says:

    and of course lester hayes.

  378. KoolKell Says:

    I guess he lost Doofus Boob again.

  379. beechams gay lover Says:

    beech dawg is letting some guy stir his peanut butter with a beer bottle. I shouldnt be jealous but I am

  380. mcfadden20. Says:

    Damontre Moore have Lamar Houston Motor but with better pass rushing skills, I’m Sold

  381. Seymour Bush Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Lying. Again. That is not why Mistic sticks this in everyone’s faces. Show me one post from Mistic that backs you.
    You made it up to further your agenda.
    You can’t seem to tell the truth these days. Seems everyone is calling you on it.
    Wise up!*********************************
    This is my opinion, if you want proof look it up your damn self. Mistic1 and I have discussed this to some degree all he does is get you fools riled up. It works y’all fall for it everytime. He hated the way JC was treated that I know for a fact because he’s the one who told me about JC previous to his first season here and supported him heavily while way to many others were hell bent to rip the guy every chance they got. He’s doing the same thing to Palmer. And it drives this board NUTS! Touche!
    ——————————————
    So, you ADMIT YOU LIED. You didn’t state it was your opinion, you stated it was Mistic’s. Like I said, lots of posters are catching you in lie after lie.

    And as far as him telling you?? LIAR!! you’re making that up. Man, you just lie as you go along, whatever comes to mind, you just type it.

  382. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    dr_robert Says: when i was banned, cork told me to do so.

    True story? Just use a new handle, no need for a new device? ( same mac address, in other words)

  383. KoolKell Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Damontre Moore have Lamar Houston Motor but with better pass rushing skills, I’m Sold
    ——————
    That’s because you’re a Trick.

  384. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Micky Marvin still on board.

  385. beechams gay lover Says:

    who cares who lies. beech dawg lies in here every day and you all fall for it.

  386. Raider E Says:

    Don’t any of you guys remember the Greats?

    Not the obvious ones, i’m talking about guys like John Villa, Clarence Davis, Otis Sistrunk….

  387. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Sean Jones was an angry man….

    Trading with the patsies way back then, if memory serves.

  388. KoolKell Says:

    They’ve been trying to get rid of this guy for years. So I’m told. But he keeps coming back under different names.

  389. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    I wasn’t on board ’till ‘79-’80.

  390. Priesttj12 Says:

    Can’t handle it huh Seymour, don’t like it don’t dish it out. I feel the same way he felt JC was demonized in here by a lot of you. He’s just giving you your own meds with a dirty spoon.

    and y’all can’t handle it……….lol

  391. Seymour Bush Says:

    BTW, Priest?
    You state someone made a comment on this board.
    I reply that you lie. That there is no such comment, and to prove it.
    And you reply for me to look for it myself?
    LOL

    Wait a couple of minutes.

    Priest: “ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…huh?”

  392. beechams gay lover Says:

    has beech dawg been here? he might be at antoines again.

  393. beechams gay lover Says:

    beech dawg doesnt have a lot of self esteem so he goes back to that slut antoine.

  394. mcfadden20. Says:

    Another guy to watch is FSU DE Brandon Jenkins, who was projected to go in first rd but since he broke his foot in 1st game this year, he might last till 3rd/4th rd

  395. Seymour Bush Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Can’t handle it huh Seymour, don’t like it don’t dish it out. I feel the same way he felt JC was demonized in here by a lot of you. He’s just giving you your own meds with a dirty spoon.

    and y’all can’t handle it……….lol
    ——————————–
    Don’t change the subject, moron.

    Can’t handle what? Just reamed you a new one, and instead of defending yourself, thats what you got?

    Seems this board has come to taking turns having their way with both you and Mistic.
    Go look at when you get flustered you resort to posting to Mistic, and he to you, trying to comfort each other, like a shoulder to cry on. “Ohhh. They don’t understand us.”
    The older you get, the weaker you get. Sad, no?

  396. aryanation Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I’m sick of reading this crap. Black QBs vs white QBs!
    Ignore the race baiting trolls. *****************************************IF YOU WANT TO WIN = WHITE QB………..IF YOU WANT TO LOSE = CHARCOAL BRIQUET QB ……..SIMPLE AS THAT

  397. 504 Raider Says:

    Anthony Barr is a junior. He is draft eligible:

    UCLA – Will shift to a linebacker position this Spring after working as a running back, f-back in his first two seasons … A fine all-around athlete who figures to find a way to make a contribution this year.

    2011 – Appeared in 12 games, with seven starts at f-back … Also saw action on special teams … Caught one pass at Houston for 11 yards and a touchdown … Ran twice against San Jose State for 12 yards … One rush against Texas (2) … One rushing attempt for a one-yard score at Oregon State … Did not see action at Stanford or against Washington State and at Arizona … Caught one pass against Arizona State (3) … Two rushing attempts at Utah for seven yards … Had one rush for one yard at USC … One rush for two yards in Pac-12 Championship Game at Oregon … Named to the Pac-12 All-Academic second-team.

    2010 – Saw action in all 12 games with four starts … Came off the bench at Kansas State to make one reception (5 yds) and rush once (1) … Made two receptions (12) against Stanford … Played versus Houston … Made one reception (5) and some key blocks at Texas … Carried once (6) versus Washington State … At Cal, he had one run (3) but strained his left calf in the first quarter and did not return … Made his first career start at Oregon and had one catch (17) … Started versus Arizona and made one reception (6) … Came off the bench versus Oregon State and ran twice for a total of 10 yards, including one for 12 yards … Started at Washington and made one reception (6) … Started and made two catches for 15 yards at Arizona State … Saw action against USC … Offensive winner of UCLA’s John Boncheff, Jr. Memorial Award for Rookie of the Year.

  398. Priesttj12 Says:

    It doesn’t deserve a response, other than to tell what I think because ai feel the same way he does just don’t act on it. He’s so good at it I don’t have to.

    But for all y’all who call him racist, you must be as well all he’s doing is the same damn thing y’all did to JC. He was hated in here for basically winning.

  399. Raider E Says:

    Aryanation,

    I will break your damn jaw while it spews that rubbish,Cuz….

    Get at me fool, ecastillo1012@live.com

  400. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
    Don’t any of you guys remember the Greats?

    Not the obvious ones, i’m talking about guys like John Villa, Clarence Davis, Otis Sistrunk….

    Monte Johnson, Willie Hall, Floyd Rice…Mike Davis, Skip Thomas.

  401. Priesttj12 Says:

    Mistic1 is brilliant IMO he come sinslaps you upside your heads. For that dirty crap y’all pulled while JC was QB.

  402. Raider E Says:

    Never hated JC, Priest. I thought he was the best we had between him and bruce, and stood behind the dude.

    He was dealt with in a terrible way after the injury, and that’s part of the reason Hue is in Cincy.

    Don’t matter now anyway….Let’s try and win one da,n game….

  403. dr_robert Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    dr_robert Says: when i was banned, cork told me to do so.

    True story? Just use a new handle, no need for a new device? ( same mac address, in other words)

    **************

    yep. there was a bunch of racist idiocy going on. so i went off on some obviously (i thought) over the to racism. i thought the irony would be funny. showing how stupid it all was. not quite on fangs’ level, but nearby. so i was quickly banned. i emailed cork and explained it was a joke. he didn’t really get it, but when i told him i wasn’t in reality a racist, just attempting to make fun of it, he told me to sign in with a new handle.

  404. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
    They’ve been trying to get rid of this guy for years. So I’m told. But he keeps coming back under different names.

    ***********

    trying to get rid of who?

  405. Raider Riff Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
    I remember when some raider fans wanted Jason Pierre Paul.. and some other fans said he was a project.. a Height weight speed guy…

    well we ended up with McClain and Pierre paul??……welll u know how that goes.

    Sometimes its good coaching too. DIon jordan is an interesting prospect

    ————

    McClain cant blame the coaching. Sure, he’s a 3-4 guy that was never going to fit the 4-3 we’ve ran, but as bad as our team has been the last decade, Rolando has been here during the most stable of that time, and he’s looked about as dis-interested as you could look.

    IMO, Rolando is a bigger bust than Jamarcus was. At least Jamarcus can blame our dumpster fire of a front office and the worst WR core in NFL history as well as a crap offensive line that bounced between philosophies so many times that we ruined Gallery as well. But Rolando doesnt have that excuse. He’s had a HOFer in Seymore in front of him and Kelly isnt as bad as the semi’s want to believe. Rolando has had good interior line play that has opened up holes for him to plug but he’s too busy missing them.

    If Rolando tackles Matt Stafford last year, we go to the playoffs. He’s horrible.

    But then again, if we dont get called for that BS penalty on Tyvon Branch’s TD kick off return then we probably win that game as well. Anyone catch the SD vs Baltimore highlights from yesterday? Anyone see how Ray Rice converted that 4th & 30? Yeah, he got the same blindside block that Tyvon did. Except the refs didnt call some BS penalty and take the big play away.

    Fvck the refs. Fvck the league. Fvck it, this is my last post of the nite. I got better things to do.

  406. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    Can’t handle it huh Seymour, don’t like it don’t dish it out. I feel the same way he felt JC was demonized in here by a lot of you. He’s just giving you your own meds with a dirty spoon.

    and y’all can’t handle it……….lol

    ***********

    yes, priest. we can’t handle a black man doing anything. etc. etc. etc.

  407. Raider E Says:

    Why do you have the number 12 in your hansle now, Priest?

  408. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    BTW, Priest?
    You state someone made a comment on this board.
    I reply that you lie. That there is no such comment, and to prove it.
    And you reply for me to look for it myself?
    LOL

    Wait a couple of minutes.

    Priest: “ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…huh?”
    **************

    is it possible to prove that something was never there by looking for it?

    these dudes have been schooled by the 5 percenters (look it up). jive trickeration at it’s finest.

  409. dr_robert Says:

    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I’m sick of reading this crap. Black QBs vs white QBs!
    Ignore the race baiting trolls. *****************************************IF YOU WANT TO WIN = WHITE QB………..IF YOU WANT TO LOSE = CHARCOAL BRIQUET QB ……..SIMPLE AS THAT
    **************

    but if u REALLY want to lose (like at life!), then join the aryan brotherhood!

  410. Raider E Says:

    Dr. Rob, you wanna chat Raider football?

  411. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
    It doesn’t deserve a response, other than to tell what I think because ai feel the same way he does just don’t act on it. He’s so good at it I don’t have to.

    But for all y’all who call him racist, you must be as well all he’s doing is the same damn thing y’all did to JC. He was hated in here for basically winning.

    **************

    not really. people didn’t love campbell. i thought he was decent.

    but get this thru ur think head: reacting to mistic coming here and telling us how awesome campbell was by telling him he wasn’t IS NOT RACIST. dummy.

  412. Raider E Says:

    I’m thinking you sit on DA one more year, gut all 3 coordinaters and Reggie puts his name right along side DA’s for next season.

    If they don’t compete, then they are out….

    Thoughts?

  413. KoolKell Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Dr. Rob, you wanna chat Raider football?
    ——————
    He’s only about stalking posters.

  414. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
    Mistic1 is brilliant IMO he come sinslaps you upside your heads. For that dirty crap y’all pulled while JC was QB.

    *************

    missdick is brilliant like a retarded kid is brilliant compared to a dog.

  415. Raider E Says:

    Do you want to talk Raider football, Kell?

  416. dr_robert Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    McClain cant blame the coaching. Sure, he’s a 3-4 guy that was never going to fit the 4-3 we’ve ran
    **************

    all of the nonsense about mcclain being a better fit in a 3-4 is dumb. a linebacker’s job is to read the play and go to the ball, thru traffic at the correct angle. period. how many linebackers there are doesn’t change that. he sucks.

  417. aryanation Says:

    watching the History Channel’s wonderful “The Men Who Built America” which showcased the amazing contributions of Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Edison, Morgan, Westinghouse, Tesla, Ford,— all White Christian men– the ancestors of the winning QB’s of the NFL

  418. 504 Raider Says:

    412.Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
    I’m thinking you sit on DA one more year, gut all 3 coordinaters and Reggie puts his name right along side DA’s for next season.

    If they don’t compete, then they are out….

    Thoughts?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Ditto

  419. dr_robert Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    Dr. Rob, you wanna chat Raider football?

    ***************

    sure. whaddya got?

  420. Raider E Says:

    Tell me ,Kell? Why does Knapp insist on running that same dumbass strech-play from the 5 yard line down in?

  421. KoolKell Says:

    Going to bed. Too late now. When the Mistic haters come in………………that’s all there is.

  422. KoolKell Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Tell me ,Kell? Why does Knapp insist on running that same dumbass strech-play from the 5 yard line down in?
    ———————–
    That’s who he is, that’s what he believes in………………..Gnite Gents, Trolls…………..another nite of self loathing. ;-)

  423. Raider E Says:

    Dr. Rob,

    Down by 14 and at midfield. It is 2nd and 1. Why would you call a run up the gut?

    It is wasting an opportunity to go DEEP!!!!

    I think Knapp plays “not to lose”

  424. aryanation Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    Aryanation,

    I will break your damn jaw while it spews that rubbish,Cuz….

    Get at me fool, ecastillo1012@live.com ==== this from an ILLEGAL BURRITO….go back to mexico…and take your anchor babies too

  425. dr_robert Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
    I’m thinking you sit on DA one more year, gut all 3 coordinaters and Reggie puts his name right along side DA’s for next season.

    If they don’t compete, then they are out….

    Thoughts?
    ****************

    i feel if reggie thought DA was his guy, then unless for some reason, he has changed his mind, then he has to give another year. it kinda sucks cuz we all want results yesterday. but most nfl people think DA has good football ability.

    if u really listen to DA, he is telling us all that his players “aren’t executing”. the zbs is a proven scheme. our o-line has stunk until recently and dmc has looked bad. our defense has no pass rush at all and cuz of mcclain (and seyour’s pyhsical decline), we are so soft in the middle that teams just run thru us.

    we need a lot of new players. like half the team.

  426. dr_robert Says:

    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    Aryanation,

    I will break your damn jaw while it spews that rubbish,Cuz….

    Get at me fool, ecastillo1012@live.com ==== this from an ILLEGAL BURRITO….go back to mexico…and take your anchor babies too

    **************

    go back to ur trailer. we’ll call u when we need an oil change.

  427. DJ Johnny Says:

    I do not believe Mistic is a Raider fan.

    A Raider fan doesn’t watch games hoping we lose and basking in it really so he can come on a blog and brag about it.

    To each his own and i’ve said as much.

    Say what you want in his defence but he’s a bigger hater than a hardcore Bronco fan.

    I don’t many REAL Raider fans that absolutely get giddy over our teams losses.

  428. dr_robert Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    Dr. Rob,

    Down by 14 and at midfield. It is 2nd and 1. Why would you call a run up the gut?

    It is wasting an opportunity to go DEEP!!!!

    I think Knapp plays “not to lose”
    **************

    i’m not in love with knapp’s playcalling. i’ve been saying that all year.

  429. Raider E Says:

    I can see that, Dr, Rob. This team looks overmatched to the point that we all think that they are quiting, me included….

    The OC and DC have got to go….

  430. aryanation Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I’m sick of reading this crap. Black QBs vs white QBs!
    Ignore the race baiting trolls. *****************************************IF YOU WANT TO WIN = WHITE QB………..IF YOU WANT TO LOSE = CHARCOAL BRIQUET QB ……..SIMPLE AS THAT
    **************

    but if u REALLY want to lose (like at life!), then join the aryan brotherhood!*************************************************************** HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF JEW BRAINWASHING….HE HATES HIS OWN RACE……HOW PATHETIC

  431. Priesttj12 Says:

    See what I mean he has all y’all fooled….

    Gnite enjoy!!

  432. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Fire Knapp

    Fire Tarver

    We need an experienced DC and an OC who has actually done well in the league and hasnt been fired multiple times. DA will needs to make these moves in the offseason if he wants to save his job, because IMO if he comes back next year with the same coordinators and we have another sub par year he will be fired.

  433. Raider E Says:

    F*CK MISTIC and his Legacy,Wave,Agenda….

  434. aryanation Says:

    CALIFORNIA is now the POOREST STATE in the country!!!…i wonder why???…..congrats!!!

  435. dr_robert Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
    I do not believe Mistic is a Raider fan.

    A Raider fan doesn’t watch games hoping we lose and basking in it really so he can come on a blog and brag about it.

    To each his own and i’ve said as much.

    Say what you want in his defence but he’s a bigger hater than a hardcore Bronco fan.

    I don’t many REAL Raider fans that absolutely get giddy over our teams losses.
    *****************

    mistic is what used to be referred to as a miserable SOB. his life sucks. he’s angry about it. just like fangs really. looking for someone to blame. so he has studied a couple books. listened to some morons on the corner. decided it’s all whitey’s fault. so, he is “pro-black” in the outdated way that black panthers were. he only supports black and he pumps up his ego and self esteem by saying how superior they “really are”. it’s delusion and actually self-hatred. he needs to keep saying it and hope it comes true, so he can stop feeling so inferior. poor guy.

    but on the other hand, he’s fun to make fun of!

  436. Raider E Says:

    email me B*tch, ill buy you a coffee….

  437. dr_robert Says:

    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
    Raider O Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I’m sick of reading this crap. Black QBs vs white QBs!
    Ignore the race baiting trolls. *****************************************IF YOU WANT TO WIN = WHITE QB………..IF YOU WANT TO LOSE = CHARCOAL BRIQUET QB ……..SIMPLE AS THAT
    **************

    but if u REALLY want to lose (like at life!), then join the aryan brotherhood!*************************************************************** HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF JEW BRAINWASHING….HE HATES HIS OWN RACE……HOW PATHETIC

    ****************

    i don’t hate my own race. i think racist pigs like urself are embarrassing.

  438. Raider E Says:

    Mistic is black….Who gives a F*ck????

  439. dr_robert Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
    I can see that, Dr, Rob. This team looks overmatched to the point that we all think that they are quiting, me included….

    The OC and DC have got to go….
    **************

    not of fan of kanpp. haven’t seen much creativity from tarver. as a coach, i’m well aware that sometimes ur players just can’t get it done. we have a lot of players that just plain suck.

  440. Raider E Says:

    Just ignore That punk, Rob. He’s got my email. If he has a problem? He can hit me up personally….

  441. dr_robert Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
    See what I mean he has all y’all fooled….

    Gnite enjoy!!

    **************

    hard for us to “see what u mean” when u don’t say anything.

  442. dr_robert Says:

    Aryanation Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
    CALIFORNIA is now the POOREST STATE in the country!!!…i wonder why???…..congrats!!!

    *************

    too many trailer parks?

  443. mcfadden20. Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    I do not believe Mistic is a Raider fan.

    A Raider fan doesn’t watch games hoping we lose and basking in it really so he can come on a blog and brag about it.

    To each his own and i’ve said as much.

    Say what you want in his defence but he’s a bigger hater than a hardcore Bronco fan.

    I don’t many REAL Raider fans that absolutely get giddy over our teams losses.

    —-

    That’s correct, he’s def not a Raider fan

  444. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Something to keep an eye on, some in here have expressed intrest in olb JJones from Georgia, well this Sat he goes up against Ala and their oline, imo their oline is the closest thing to an NFL line. We shall see how Mr Jones fares against that line, will he be able to help stop that powerful run game? Will he be able to pressure on AJ? or will he be mauled by BJones and co. and become a non factor?

  445. dr_robert Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
    F*CK MISTIC and his Legacy,Wave,Agenda….
    ***********

    earlier tonite, missdick called it a “space age attack”. that was a good one. laughed for awhile about it.

    clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.

  446. mcfadden20. Says:

    How the heck is this Aryan the biggest phag in the world still allowed to comment on here after Cork sent us memo to clean up your acts, SMH

  447. Raider E Says:

    Come on, Rob.

    These are NFL professionals, and for Dalton to come out and say that all he saw were the same looks and formations is fundamentally wrong.

    It’s on the coaches, for real.

    He basically came out and said,”That was too easy, fellas, see ya around.”

    UNACCEPTABLE

  448. dr_robert Says:

    the raiders have so many needs:

    pass rush
    MLB
    secondary
    O-line
    #1 WR

    whew. where to start. normally, i’d say go get the top pass rusher possible. there seems to be many at the top of this draft. but i’m a HUGE fan of manti teo and think he would change the culture/attitude on defense instantly.

  449. Derek Says:

    101: Palmer makes many pretty plays, he also make terrible plays. The terrible plays generally occur in crunch time. Drive killing turnovers are common with Palmer. The guy is a 10 yr vet. He has all the tools except the it factor.

    Test driving the young Pryor is appropriate during this lost season. It would be good to run him out against another pathetic defense to minimize the pressure and too allow him an opportunity to relax and gain confidence and experience

  450. mcfadden20. Says:

    I believe this team doesn’t have players who can do different things, so pretty much we’re stuck doing same stupid things

  451. Raider E Says:

    Good post , Derek. I agree with you in alot of ways.

    I don’t think you start Pryor until Carolina at home. Seems like the best time, but we need to elevate him to the #2 QB immediately….

  452. mcfadden20. Says:

    Drive killing plays also happen while the other team is pinning it ears back for Palmer and palmer has to make quick decision throwing to stupid guy who can’t run routes properly and usually give up on the routes when ever they try , i counted many times in yesterdays game , where the CB’s figured out the routes and jumped them before receivers were able to turn their heads around

  453. Raider E Says:

    Whats up, Mcfadden?

    You still up huh? Me too…

    How you be?

  454. dr_robert Says:

    i do agree that i have not seen anything resembling creativity from tarver.

    some of my biggest gripes have to do with their decisions on players.

    leaving mcclain in
    not trying burris as a pass rusher
    keeping chekwa around while searching everywhere for guys who were cut.

  455. Raider E Says:

    We dont have a #1 Reciever…

    Dmo is a #2

    DHB is a #3

    We need a #1

  456. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Whats up, Mcfadden?

    You still up huh? Me too…

    How you be?

    —–

    yeah I’m still up , I’m a night owl lol, everything going good just checking out draft prospects to see which guys would help us out more, what’s good with you E?

  457. Raider E Says:

    When Brandon Myers is your #1, you have a problem….

  458. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    i do agree that i have not seen anything resembling creativity from tarver.

    some of my biggest gripes have to do with their decisions on players.

    leaving mcclain in
    not trying burris as a pass rusher
    keeping chekwa around while searching everywhere for guys who were cut.


    maybe they see some potential in Chekwa and they just want him to learn a few things, you remember Brandon Underwood? he got injured in last game of pre-season, he was doing pretty good covering guys and laying some wood on em

  459. Raider E Says:

    I’m liking that dude from A&M, but he may not come out?

    Maybe we can convince him with a Top 5 selection lol:)

  460. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    We dont have a #1 Reciever…

    Dmo is a #2

    DHB is a #3

    We need a #1

    — I think D’more is more of a slot receiver, he still doesn’t like to go in tough spots of the field,so I’m hoping Streeter can jump upto #2 and we can get our hands on some one like Bowe in FA

  461. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    I’m liking that dude from A&M, but he may not come out?

    Maybe we can convince him with a Top 5 selection lol:)

    Yeah he said he will go back but i don’t think he will pass up the prospect of missing out on top 10 money, since guys don’t even get paid as much anymore

  462. dr_robert Says:

    Derek Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
    101: Palmer makes many pretty plays, he also make terrible plays. The terrible plays generally occur in crunch time. Drive killing turnovers are common with Palmer. The guy is a 10 yr vet. He has all the tools except the it factor.

    Test driving the young Pryor is appropriate during this lost season. It would be good to run him out against another pathetic defense to minimize the pressure and too allow him an opportunity to relax and gain confidence and experience
    ***********

    well, all turnovers kill drives.

    this whole pryor thing is pretty simple. pryor can only start IF they decide to go away from palmer. he simply can’t start and then go back to palmer next season. think about it. ur saying “carson, ur still our guy but we wanna see what we have with this other guy.” it’s like telling ur girlfriend “honey, i still wanna marry u. but i just wanna see what this hot chic has to offer real quick.” girfriend says, “if i’m ur girl then what the fu@k do u want with her? it’s her or me. period.”

    get it guys? and let’s say reggie decides he is going to try to trade palmer in the offseason. why would u want to lower the asking price by creating a lame duck qb situation?

    besides, there simply is NO WAY they have seen enuff from pryor to do any of that.

    he’s simply a tantalizing fantasy.

  463. GG Says:

    If Pryor starts vs Browns….we will win the game.

    Someone mentioned they’re afraid Pryor could end up like Walter. The major difference and reason why that wont happen is Pryor is far more dynamic on his feet than Walter. Walter was tough, stood there and took all the pounding. But he was playing in a true Air Coryell seven-step drop offense. The WCO that Knapp employs features a lot more three-step drops (and five-step) as well as moving the launch point whether that be a quick roll-out or a play-action roll-out. And I expect to see far more of this done with Pryor than was done with Palmer, as he’s far more mobile. Not only that, but Pryor, as evinced in the pre-season games, has better pocket presence, being so mobile, and a dual-threat, he will sense pressure better than Walter, who was a Brady-like statue type of QB, and there’ll be times in the game where he’ll escape a sack and dart off for 5+ yards.

    I strongly believe if we start Pryor we will beat the Browns, because he will get a good feel for things early and build confidence and momentum to play better, start playing on instinct instead of thinking thru everything, when the chips are down, focused on the game not on himself. But if he comes on for the 2nd half, the Browns could be beating us soundly by then and Pryor will not feel as responsible for the state of the game to date, and will not play as naturally. I also think the defense will play better, and the coaches will call a better defensive game-plan, to protect Pryor, to make his debut easier, if he starts.

  464. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    the raiders have so many needs:

    pass rush – confirmed
    MLB – confirmed
    secondary — Confirmed
    O-line — Confirmed
    #1 WR — Confirmed

    whew. where to start. normally, i’d say go get the top pass rusher possible. there seems to be many at the top of this draft. but i’m a HUGE fan of manti teo and think he would change the culture/attitude on defense instantly.

    All needs are confirmed

  465. Raider E Says:

    I would love to have Wallace, although he is not a true #1.

  466. mcfadden20. Says:

    We need crazy mofo’s on D side, Linebacker like Ray lewis, Safeties like Brian Dawkins and that Washington guy (RIP), CB’s like (Cortland finnegan) DL like Jared Allen

  467. dr_robert Says:

    using the girlfriend analogy, if u say to ur girlfriend, “well, i think i still want u but i just gotta see what that chic across the bar has for me. i think she might be hot.” first thing that happens is ur gf says “f@ck u. i’m out.” so, now u have given up ur pretty hot, pretty cool gf, with some flaws. but overall pretty good, for a chance with another girl u have no real knowledge of.

    so then, the other chic ends up either being awesome and totally worth it, or more likely even more flawed than ur former girl, and u end up with nothing.

  468. GG Says:

    Pryor is a driven hungry guy too. All he wants to do is vindicate he is an NFL-caliber QB, that he can be a superstar just like Newton, Kaepernick, and Griffin. He’s got a good ego, one that hates losing, wants to be great, for himself and his family, as well as to honor Al for drafting him, him forever to be known as Al Davis’ final draft pick.

    So I’m looking forward to the post-game chatter on here, all those people who doubted him, who outright hated on him, making big assertions he would never amount to anything etc.

    He might not match Kaepernick’s debut, but perform well enough to show everyone he IS capable of becoming our franchise QB with more training camp and learning.

  469. dr_robert Says:

    GG Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    If Pryor starts vs Browns….we will win the game.

    Someone mentioned they’re afraid Pryor could end up like Walter. The major difference and reason why that wont happen is Pryor is far more dynamic on his feet than Walter. Walter was tough, stood there and took all the pounding. But he was playing in a true Air Coryell seven-step drop offense. The WCO that Knapp employs features a lot more three-step drops (and five-step) as well as moving the launch point whether that be a quick roll-out or a play-action roll-out. And I expect to see far more of this done with Pryor than was done with Palmer, as he’s far more mobile. Not only that, but Pryor, as evinced in the pre-season games, has better pocket presence, being so mobile, and a dual-threat, he will sense pressure better than Walter, who was a Brady-like statue type of QB, and there’ll be times in the game where he’ll escape a sack and dart off for 5+ yards.

    I strongly believe if we start Pryor we will beat the Browns, because he will get a good feel for things early and build confidence and momentum to play better, start playing on instinct instead of thinking thru everything, when the chips are down, focused on the game not on himself. But if he comes on for the 2nd half, the Browns could be beating us soundly by then and Pryor will not feel as responsible for the state of the game to date, and will not play as naturally. I also think the defense will play better, and the coaches will call a better defensive game-plan, to protect Pryor, to make his debut easier, if he starts.

    *****************

    u know next to nothing about pryor.

  470. mcfadden20. Says:

    I would only throw money at D Bowe no one else in FA, or just draft one in 2nd and 3rd round and hope this guy can catch upto NFL faster than their usual time

  471. dr_robert Says:

    the coaching staff has shown zero evidence that they believe in pryor.

  472. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    using the girlfriend analogy, if u say to ur girlfriend, “well, i think i still want u but i just gotta see what that chic across the bar has for me. i think she might be hot.” first thing that happens is ur gf says “f@ck u. i’m out.” so, now u have given up ur pretty hot, pretty cool gf, with some flaws. but overall pretty good, for a chance with another girl u have no real knowledge of.

    so then, the other chic ends up either being awesome and totally worth it, or more likely even more flawed than ur former girl, and u end up with nothing.

    The grass is not always greener on the other side LOL

  473. Raider E Says:

    I wanna see Pryor take the field. Let’s see what the kid has to offer?

    If he fails miserably, dump him.

    If he shows some moxie and is coachable?

    Coach him up and give the kid a chance.

    Palmer has played well and been everything you could ask for, but sadly, I think he may be done.

  474. dr_robert Says:

    pass rush, mlb, and o-line can be instantly added to ur lineup and make a difference.

    wr and secondary takes more time. i’d hit those areas with free agency.

  475. 2-14 Says:

    I like Pryor and want the kid to succeed. I’m afraid that by throwing him to the wolves now with a horrible scheme and roster full of injuries, it would only stunt his growth as a QB. Let Palmer take the beating and protect Pryor.

  476. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s not just this coaching staff, last years coaching staff didn’t give Pryor any vote of confidence either

  477. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    pass rush, mlb, and o-line can be instantly added to ur lineup and make a difference.

    wr and secondary takes more time. i’d hit those areas with free agency.

    Man you’re the one of the smartest poster in here

  478. Raider E Says:

    I think you have to see what Pryor has to offer. If nothing else it was AL’s last pick, and JR will see him play before he ships him off.

  479. 2-14 Says:

    Well he joined the team kind of late and was a rookie. I wouldn’t call it lack of faith, just the prior staff being realistic and knowing he needs time to develop. He’s not a polished QB coming out like Luck or Griffin III. I think another pre/offseason will make or break the kid.

  480. 2-14 Says:

    Maybe Pryor can play safety

  481. mcfadden20. Says:

    So maybe the coaching staff is doing him favor by sitting on the bench, how many years did A Rodgers sit on the bench? 2, 3? Sometimes its better to get into games knowing what the heck ur doing, then going in there confused? last think you want a young athletic guy like that to do is run around like crazy trying to make a play and get crushed and end up having a confidence shattering injury

  482. Raider E Says:

    I have to say in a losing season like this one, you have to give the kid some run and at least spark some interest with the fanbase.

    This bullsh*t has been ridiculous….

  483. 2-14 Says:

    ^ anything to get Gio’s sorry azz ff the field

  484. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s safe to say Gio and Mitchell will be gone, we will try to bring in real safeties next year

  485. mcfadden20. Says:

    I hope they can get rid of Branch as well , or better just try him at corner only like Huff, he’s not made for safety position

  486. 2-14 Says:

    I’ve been dissapointed by Branch’s play too.

  487. Raider E Says:

    Gio could have ersaedall doubts Sunday. He could have caught that INT and took it to the house?

    His vakue dropped considerably in 2 seconds lol….

  488. Raider E Says:

    I never undrstood why they gave Branch a LTC. He has always been below the standard….

  489. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Gio could have ersaedall doubts Sunday. He could have caught that INT and took it to the house?

    His vakue dropped considerably in 2 seconds lol….

    Those are kinda plays that change games and give the D’s some confidence and makes it fun to play D, we just don’t have any ball hawks who can make plays, I still LMFAO @ that ball that boinked of top of Tyvon branch’s helmet in TB game

  490. 2-14 Says:

    What’s the problem with Tyvon anyway? Just bad coaching or did he forget how to play ball when he got paid? I used to really like this guy but wheww..

  491. Raider E Says:

    I think you keep Huff, Bartell,and Checkwa. Lose the rest….

    Sign Brent Grimes and draft an animal in the box at ss.

  492. mcfadden20. Says:

    I would take my chance of Jairus byrd FS Bills, he led the AFC in interceptions with 9 in 2009

  493. Raider E Says:

    eric reid from lsu might be able to contribute?

    we will be in postion to trade down and still draft him.

  494. 2-14 Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:20 am
    I think you keep Huff, Bartell,and Checkwa. Lose the rest….

    Sign Brent Grimes and draft an animal in the box at ss.

    _

    Print out the defensive rosters of LSU/ Alabama, stick em on the wall and throw a dart. There’s your draft prep Reg.

  495. Raider E Says:

    z-14,

    i don’t get it?

  496. mcfadden20. Says:

    Leodis Mckelvin is another from 1st rd pick by Buffalo , he is a good kick returner as well

  497. 2-14 Says:

    talking about drafting a beast at the safety position. The LSU and Alabama defensive backs can actually tackle and play tough football.

  498. Raider E Says:

    buffalo? who cares?

  499. Raider E Says:

    eric reid, z-14.

    that’s what i was saying…

  500. 2-14 Says:

    sorry i posted after you wrote that

  501. 2-14 Says:

    That DE from Florida State

  502. mcfadden20. Says:

    Aqib talib CB will be a free agent too

  503. mcfadden20. Says:

    Werner?

  504. 2-14 Says:

    Werner, the German dude. Guy is a stud I would love to see him in Oakland.

  505. beach Says:

    A thank you to Steve Corkran for cleaning out this blog.

  506. mcfadden20. Says:

    LaRon Landry can lay some licks in secondary

  507. beach Says:

    Palmer is far from done. But, Pryor should be given some playing time soon to see what the future holds for him and the Raiders!

  508. mcfadden20. Says:

    Werner got good pass rushing skills and can rush the passer well , but kinda weak against the run and takes some plays off

  509. 2-14 Says:

    At this point any pass rush is a welcome upgrade

  510. mcfadden20. Says:

    I mean’t good play recognition skills***((

  511. 2-14 Says:

    He’s only played ball since his junior year in HS. Dude has a high ceiling, Werner that is

  512. mcfadden20. Says:

    Other guy from FSU was projected to go in 1st rd ,DE Brandon Jenkins, but broken foot might force teams to shy away from him until 3-4 rd

  513. Super Lawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:00 am
    the coaching staff has shown zero evidence that they believe in pryor.

    ……………………………

    Or themselves for that matter. I was so upset after the loss to Cicny, I uncorked one all over the living room wall. Now I gotta have my posse clean it up. But they did get the ruckus on video. Word.

  514. 2-14 Says:

    Too many areas that need upgrading. Might have to trade some guys with value to get picks. McFadden comes to mind maybe DHB.

  515. beach Says:

    You cannot trade DHB unless you get a veteran WR. We are so thin at the position. We better find a right tackle, and some studs on the D Line to stop the other team’s running back!

  516. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mcfadden might get us a 2nd from some one like Jerry Jones, who wanted to draft Mcfadden coming out of college, DHB got no trade value

  517. 2-14 Says:

    I would take a 2nd for McFadden right now. Time to move on if the ZBS is here to stay, which unfortunately it is.

  518. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:03 am
    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    pass rush, mlb, and o-line can be instantly added to ur lineup and make a difference.

    wr and secondary takes more time. i’d hit those areas with free agency.

    Man you’re the one of the smartest poster in here

    **************

    i try. but sometime u can feel ur IQ dropping just from being in this spot.

  519. dr_robert Says:

    by the way, i don’t think branch is that bad.

  520. The Mack Says:

    I think Damontre moore should be our pick this year. We need pass rush from our front four tough. The kid has talent and i think the old guys like Seymour ande kelly can teach him some more tricks to add to his arsenal. I’d also like to see them move branch to fs and Mitchell to ss to get gio off the field because he’s a liability nd i think the switch would help the two players out like it did huff.

  521. GG Says:

    I have one other comment to make about Tarver and Knapp….

    It is the coaching, not the players, for the following reason–

    Both Tarver and Knapp are extremely predictable in their play-calling. There’s no need for me to cite examples of it. But what Dalton said is a good example. When I watch, and I’m sure when many of you watch, even we can tell what we’re doing on various formations/packages, pre-snap. That’s how terribly predictable they are.

    Anyway, the point is…the players are being put in situations that are not conducive to them succeeding on each play due to how predictable the play-calling is on both sides of the ball. Our opponent’s QB/MLB (and OC/DC) are able to diagnose it, see the predictability, and exploit it by showing certain looks but with new wrinkles added in. Like those photos of pre-snap alignments that OC’s and DC’s use. Their coaches are tweaking and adding wrinkles as they notice certain predictable things Tarver and Knapp do and don’t themselves adjust or add wrinkles to as the game develops. This is the real big area where our co-ordinators are failing at. It’s like they come in with a bunch of plays and strategies for that week’s opponent but do little in-game tweaking, are not clever/sly enough for that in-game chess match that goes on between opposing co-ordinators.

    So, the end result of many plays is that our players are playing hard, but not put in good situations or they are being exposed pre-snap so that as a play develops their assignment is being exploited. And that snowballs from play to play, thru a whole qtr, a half. Players’ heads go down, they cant seem to do anything right tho theyre trying.

    An example of that for you to watch back on your DVRs…there are times when we do call a good defensive play, and we blow up the RB, the DL gets by their blockers, and we look dominant on that play. And we’ll see it several more times. But then, because Tarver is so predictable, the OC with all those sideline photos of pre-snap alignments, they break us down, see what we keep doing, and add wrinkles to fool our DC. And you’ll see our opponent show the same look again later, but this time the rushing play busts us wide open for 40, it was a misdirection this time, for instance. Or when you see them start getting on top of us with those constant 5-10 yard gains on certain drives, it’s because we showed them we do ‘this’ when they do ‘that’, and it resulted in 5 yards. But they keep riding that play knowing we’ll keep doing the exact same thing each time.

    You’ll remember the Bears-Panthers game a few weeks ago, when the Bears players later said the Panthers DC just kept calling the exact same play the WHOLE drive for 80 yards down the field, Cutler kept riding them, kept doing the exact same thing back, and it was just constant 8-10 yard gains, quickly driving 80 yards and a game-winning TD in the last minute.

    Another example…the Bengals lined up in a particular formation, Tarver overloaded the A and B gaps, had a safety and OLBs stunting back inside on blitz assignment, with the DL themselves bunched up and shooting the A and B gaps. The first time Tarver called it on a particular formation, it resulted in a hurried incomplete throw. The next time the Bengals went to that look, Tarver called the same thing again. It was a rushing play, and resulted in a stuff. The Bengals left that formation alone for a while, then went back to it, this time confident that Tarver would be calling the exact same play. This time the Bengals employed a quick bubble screen, which resulted in wide open space on the outside, as all our LBs and a Safety were COMMITTED to this inside stunting blitz that took them all out of the play. And the Bengals did it again to us a few first downs later.

    Each time, our players looked hopeless, looked like they can’t read the play, “it’s the players, they suck.” But it’s more a play-call that got guessed right pre-snap or in the huddle, and exploiting it because the assignments are committed. For instance, if you KNOW the SS standing 10 yards back is on a delayed blitz pre-snap, you can exploit that player, he’s committed to that assignment, that play-call.

    Why whenever Allen/Knapp/Tarver say “the players are just not executing” is mostly BS. They CANT execute if the play-calling is so predictable our opponent’s offense (or defense) is figuring it out and exposing them.

  522. mcfadden20. Says:

    We’re not passing up on Damontre Moore, Can Play both DE positions in 4-3, can play 3-4 End, can play OLB in 3-4 , the guy can do everything and has motor that never quits

  523. mcfadden20. Says:

    I want to win rest of the games, but I’m afraid if teams like Jax, Philly and Car finish worse than us,all these teams need pass rushers so one of them will snatch Damontre Moore and we will forever regret it lol

  524. mcfadden20. Says:

    We’re tied with 3 other teams for the 3rd worst record in the nfl, our strength of schedule will put us behind those teams, now i get it why Reg and DA want to play Pryor , they want to tank the season to improve draft position, because they see a game changer in draft that they don’t want to lose out on

  525. dr_robert Says:

    louis murphy 13/212

    anyone still b1tching?

  526. The Mack Says:

    Dont worry mc20 we’ll get em cus trust me… we aren’t winning that much more games, i give us 2 tops.

  527. dr_robert Says:

    how about getting brandon jacobs in the offseason? not being used in sf. but he’s a huge banger and could help us in short yardage. and he’d be cheap.

  528. dr_robert Says:

    i think we’ll be in prime position to pick up manti teo.

  529. Raider E Says:

    This team is not winning one more game, Mack. Believe that, Bro….

  530. mcfadden20. Says:

    I think that Whitworth guy was abused in that fight,he took body shots from hella guys, I liked that kelly came into help his fellow lineman even though he sucks now

  531. Raider E Says:

    kelley is an all-out player. he gets a bad rap cause he is big and has low stamina for a professional.

  532. mcfadden20. Says:

    Right now extra wins or 2 doesn’t matter, people ain’t going to care if this team finished 8-8 or 3-13, but this is going to matter come draft time, 1 player can make or break your team

  533. Raider E Says:

    it dont matter where you draft this year. there is on luck in this draft.

  534. dr_robert Says:

    i do think picking up dwayne bowe would be a great idea.

  535. dr_robert Says:

    i’m just hoping we go to pryor and check out his “space-age attack”!

  536. GG Says:

    Titans fire offensive coordinator Chris Palmer

    When Titans owner Bud Adams ripped his team and its coaching staff early this month, assistant coaches were said to be fearing for their jobs. Now one assistant has lost his job.

    Titans offensive coordinator Chris Palmer has been fired, the team announced on Monday night. Dowell Loggains has been promoted from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator for the rest of the season.

    “I have a great deal of respect for Chris Palmer as a coach and that was the reason we brought him here,” head coach Mike Munchak said in a statement. “I appreciate the time and effort he put in here and I want to wish him and his family the best moving forward. As an offense I didn’t feel like we were progressing the way that I had hoped. I believe we needed a change in direction and I hope to see that progress in our remaining games. Dowell has worked here for a number of years under some very successful coordinators and he is ready for this challenge.”

    The 63-year-old Palmer has a wealth of experience running NFL offenses and has previously served as head coach of the Browns, offensive coordinator of the Texans and Jaguars, and a position coach with the Giants, Cowboys, Patriots and Oilers.

    The Titans are 4-7 and coming off a disappointing 24-19 loss to the Jaguars on Sunday.

    =============

    Titans been very competitive all year, they aren’t messing around, GM/Owner putting the heat on their coaches. Have to wonder how Tarver and Knapp have survived so long, especially thru a month of the worst ever performance in franchise history. Either DA/RM are too passive or too proud. Should’ve happened after the 2nd successive thumping. But they kept up the lip-service and resulted in another two weeks of thumpings. Apparently, based on DA, they’re still in that mode of assessing everything and seeing how we can improve (uhh, fire the co-ordinators?)

  537. Raider E Says:

    is bowe doing anything this season? i know he is in KC’ but he should be heard of. i havent heard a damn thing.

  538. mcfadden20. Says:

    I think KC is f8cked though, they will take a chance on one of the Qb’s because of pressure from fans, and they will regret it, there is no Luck or Griffin in the draft

  539. mcfadden20. Says:

    Nope, they have horrible OL, Horrible play caller and horrible passer

  540. mcfadden20. Says:

    The best thing KC can do is if they going to draft a QB is trade back 6-10 spots, accumulate more picks and just roll a dice on any qb, cuz i don’t see any difference between any of them LOL, atleast they could use the extra picks on to help that QB out

  541. Raider E Says:

    Bowe was ballin with cassel before? why not now? did he quit?

    Sounds like he is perfect for us lol.

  542. mcfadden20. Says:

    KC will go QB, OT, OG, and WR in draft, maybe a TE as well

  543. mcfadden20. Says:

    Yeah cuz they can’t get the ball to him

  544. Raider E Says:

    I rhink we trade down and pick up a later 1st, 2nd, and 5th?

  545. Raider E Says:

    and with the later first we take Reid out of LSU

  546. Raider E Says:

    our first pick in the second goes to barrett at center and we move Lil Wiz back to his natural position.

    LG, just like his Uncle.

    Speaking of Steve, lets get him on the horn.

  547. mcfadden20. Says:

    that works only if they can still get that legit pass rusher coming from the edge, Moore, werner both might go top 10, i would stay away from both LSU pass rushers, only good pass rushers who would be available 10-20 Dion Jordan

  548. mcfadden20. Says:

    USC C Khaled Holmes projected to go in 3rd ,Barret might get drafted in late 1st

  549. Raider E Says:

    we can sign osi or freeney in fa

  550. mcfadden20. Says:

    Don’t think we will have room under salary cap to outbit other teams

  551. Raider E Says:

    cliff avril needs a contract and he has been killin qb’s for a few years.

  552. mcfadden20. Says:

    but i wouldn’t touch both of em ,they’re both old and long in the tooth, some one like Michael Johnson Cincy still 25 and Cliff avril around 26 year age would be good choices , but still I’m afraid we won’t have the cash money to throw at them unless we get rid of some of our highest paid players

  553. mcfadden20. Says:

    I would still try to throw money at a WR or CB in FA since those guys take a while to develop in draft, D- Bowe would be my first choice, he’s good but just not mentally in there , if we can work on Our line , Palmer to D-bowe connection would be lethal

  554. mcfadden20. Says:

    just not mentally into games at this time cuz KC s8cks so bad offensively, they make 06 Raiders O look good lol

  555. Raider E Says:

    how about adonije from the bears? He can work inside and out. a true beast.

    They owe us from Bush lol….

  556. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:35 am

    how about adonije from the bears? He can work inside and out. a true beast.

    They owe us from Bush lol….

    yeah both of their DT’s are good pass rushers i believe Melton is little bit more younger

  557. dr_robert Says:

    everyone thinks dwayne bowe is having a down year.

    but he has 53/667/3.

    that would rank him our best receiver right now. and he’s got cassell/quinn throwing to him.

    he’s already had 3 seasons of over 1000 yards and will likely get there again.

    and he had 15 td’s 2 years ago.

    6′2″/221 28 years old

    we should get this guy.

  558. Raider E Says:

    Adonije it is…. Lets buy a billboard lol….

  559. mcfadden20. Says:

    Why were 2-8 Car and 3-7 Philly playing on prime-time again, couldn’t they have just cancelled the game today? I would have rather watched black and white movie from 1940’s

  560. dr_robert Says:

    man, i keep laughing about missdick’s “space-age attack”. keep thinking about guys shooting around in jet packs and sparkly suits, playing “future ball”. that guy kills me.

  561. dr_robert Says:

    can u imagine if vick would’ve been playing? it would have been like the super bowl at missdick’s house.

  562. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:43 am

    everyone thinks dwayne bowe is having a down year.

    but he has 53/667/3.

    that would rank him our best receiver right now. and he’s got cassell/quinn throwing to him.

    he’s already had 3 seasons of over 1000 yards and will likely get there again.

    and he had 15 td’s 2 years ago.

    6′2″/221 28 years old

    we should get this guy.

    Still got 3-4 years left in him , not bad, any one got Reggies EMail?

  563. Raider E Says:

    Didn’t realize he had those numbers this season, Rob? We could use a play-maker ar WR.

    A true #1

    It will make Dmo a stud….

  564. dr_robert Says:

    two black qb’s with “space-age” ability on sh!tty teams, that aren’t being used properly and being treated unfairly by their coaches/fans/society.

  565. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:45 am

    can u imagine if vick would’ve been playing? it would have been like the super bowl at missdick’s house.

    DUDE would have DVR’d that sh1t and played that game every second of his life lMAO

  566. Raider E Says:

    Supa bowel at miss dicks lol….

  567. dr_robert Says:

    bowe would be a #1, letting moore be the #2. and he would be a redzone guy, which we sorely lack. moore will be in his 3rd year next season, which is the season that most wr’s emerge. could be explosive. i’d love to see palmer throwing to those guys, plus a 2 te attack like new england’s, with myers and ausberry. reece in the backfield. lots of options there.

  568. mcfadden20. Says:

    D Moore started to look good but he kinda has regressed after the injuries, I wouldn’t even put him at #2 on depth chart, I will give Streeter and Criner some serious playing time and ask Palmer to throw to one of those on every down in the last 5 games, maybe Streeter can work his a#s off in off-season and become our #2 and we get D-Bowe next year, it would be nice , streeter is like 6′4 and can outjump pretty much every CB

  569. dr_robert Says:

    i do like streater and criner. but it does take time usually for wr’s to get it together. and streater especially had barely any passes his way in college. some guys will get it going early, but it’s such a fast game out on the edges, that it takes time to learn how to run routes, adjust routes, etc. it’s just rare for a guy to really contribute his best until year 3. u like to see some production as a rookie, getting better in year two, then ready to blossom in year three. there are exceptions of course, but that’s been a pretty good rule of thumb over time.

  570. Raider E Says:

    Dmo is the #2 Mcfadden. I’m sorry but that kid can ball, you’ll see.

    Our recieving corp. is no bad, they just need a #1 to follow.

    We have no leaders at the position.

  571. Raider E Says:

    I really wanna see Pryor now lol…. Miss dick put a fire in me?

  572. dr_robert Says:

    so, i’m hesitant to count too heavily on streater/criner next season. dhb is a bit of an enigma. seemed last year like he was breaking out. this season, he has “regressed” a bit. maybe a little bit of a forgotten man now that al davis is gone. not as much of a priority to make it work out with him. hagan will likely be gone. ford is a returner only to me.

  573. Raider E Says:

    You cannot have a gunslinger like Palmer and no #1 reciever….

    It’s just wrong….

  574. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:54 am

    Dmo is the #2 Mcfadden. I’m sorry but that kid can ball, you’ll see.

    Our recieving corp. is no bad, they just need a #1 to follow.

    We have no leaders at the position.

    I know he can ball and run all the long deep routes, but all i want to know is if he will ever be receiver we can rely on to run nice crisp routes in crunch time and can catch the ball in middle of the field and not be afraid of hits, that’s like the only sh1t I’m worried about , and i think if your #1 or #2 you should be able to do all that, Moore is nice when you a deep strike here and there though , but you ain’t getting that all day long

  575. dr_robert Says:

    pryor would be interesting as a wr. but as a qb, i’m just unsure. i’d like to see him too. i just don’t see it happening. DA needs wins. and i get no feeling that the current regime thinks highly of him as a qb.

  576. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:57 am

    You cannot have a gunslinger like Palmer and no #1 reciever….

    It’s just wrong….

    – Amen

  577. Raider E Says:

    Brandon Myers is palmers go-to-guy for christ’s sake.

  578. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:58 am

    pryor would be interesting as a wr. but as a qb, i’m just unsure. i’d like to see him too. i just don’t see it happening. DA needs wins. and i get no feeling that the current regime thinks highly of him as a qb.

    Imagine if he ever starts working out as a WR what is he like 6′6 ? 4.3 speed? I am also afraid of that he won’t work out as QB, but lets hope he proves all of us wrong, Imagine a qb who can do everything ,DAMN LOL

  579. The Mack Says:

    Post 568 you give up to easy Mc20, Moore will be fine as you can see this is a down year for everybody due to the new coaching staff. Its not him or just him, im positive he and the rest of the guys on O will bounce back when they get a real play caller in here next season.

  580. mcfadden20. Says:

    Especially when you got no running game, JC survived without #1 receiver cuz they heavily relied on Running game, you guys ever caught JC games?> when the running game didn’t get going , Disastrous experience lol

  581. mcfadden20. Says:

    So if you got no running game , then you def need #1 receiver and good pass protection

  582. dr_robert Says:

    yeah–moore definitely has a thin build. not sure he’ll ever be the kinda guy u KNOW will get it done in crunch time. if u look at the top 15 receivers in the nfl right now, the prototype is the big receiver. the only guy built anything like moore would be reggie wayne. and he’s still bigger. not counting little guys like welker and steve smith, who are different altogether in their styles.

  583. mcfadden20. Says:

    The Mack Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:02 am

    Post 568 you give up to easy Mc20, Moore will be fine as you can see this is a down year for everybody due to the new coaching staff. Its not him or just him, im positive he and the rest of the guys on O will bounce back when they get a real play caller in here next season.

    I hope your right, but many times i have seen slant plays called on short downs and they have simply dropped them because they heard foot steps, IMO Moore will always be that outside deep strike kinda guy, he’s not a middle of the field guy , but i hope you guys are right and he proves me wrong

  584. Raider E Says:

    Pryor can’t hurt? Let’s see what the kid has got and put the argument to rest once and for all.

    BTW, as long as he is a Raider, I’m behind him 110%

    Raider Nation.

    Mcfadden, Rob, nice convo. I appreciate it.

    One Nation, Good night.

  585. dr_robert Says:

    i like moore. just not sure he looks like a #1 to me. could be a really good #2 though.

  586. dr_robert Says:

    later raider e. always good talking to guys who love the raiders and aren’t complete tools. LOL!

  587. mcfadden20. Says:

    I wish we only had a few weak spots on the team , instead of everywhere, so we could have just focused on certain positions to fill in FA and Draft, not sure if they will be able to get them all fixed and get good depth, but that will be a miracle if we can go into a season , without worrying about certain position

  588. mcfadden20. Says:

    Later E, awesome Raider talk , hopefully we can enjoy same troll free board tomorrow lol

  589. The Mack Says:

    Pryor did actually run a few plays at wr in college at times when they got near the goal line and he was quite effective, he has a few recieving tds. If tebow can play qb in this league he can, and they even gave vince young a try at qb so I believe Pryor deserves a chance to prove himself before everyone starts writing him off without every seeing him play in an actual game…

  590. mcfadden20. Says:

    I’m out as well , probably watch a movie or something , later Rob, nite.

  591. dr_robert Says:

    my opinion of our wr’s eventual potential:

    moore–outside deep threat. good #2.

    dhb–more like a #3. for a speedster, he doesn’t really go deep often. a possession receiver with suspect hands? good after the catch though. almsot think he could kill it as a kick returner.

    ford–returner/#4 or 5

    hagan–nice #3-5 guy.

    streater–has the tools. hard to say where he could end up. seems to be a possession guy though. meaning a #2 or 3.

    criner–same as streater really. a bit slow. great hands. big.

  592. dr_robert Says:

    later mc20.

  593. The Mack Says:

    Denarius is basically Desean Jackson 2.0 smaller guy with speed who can stretch the field, and make plays with his shiftiness and quickness.

  594. The Mack Says:

    Yea i see streater and criner as 3’s. Al made a big mistake passing on megatron for jamarcus, i knew we’d regret that 1 for a long time the day it happened because cj was a physical freak with the greatest hands id ever seen. We passed on fitz too for gallery which was another big whiff. Smh

  595. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Moore and Palmer still aren’t comfortable in the new offense. Aren’t on the same page means not sure what they’re supposed to do in different situations.

    O line looks a hellov a lot worse. DMAC suddenly playing worse than he ever has.

    When every single player regresses its the coaches to blame.

    Defense produced sacks in the past. What changed except the coaching staff?

    Anyone toucan think of who looks like they improved their product on the field compared to last year?

  596. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Quite a few of our players could be good if put in the right position.

  597. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Palmer’s real shows were against the Steelers and the Chargers on NFL Network.

    Pryor is childish…seen him dancin on the sidelines, chewing gum in the Press conferences….

    ***

    Attn: Sam

    Carson has 28 INT’s and 8 fumbles in his 21 games as a Raider QB

    He also has 31 passing TD’s & 2 rushing TD’s

    5934 passing yards. Problem is, he’s not a winner

  598. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I just banned a user that has made a habit of crossing the line on a continual basis. This wasn’t a one-time thing. I banned a couple other users in recent weeks for doing likewise.
    Your participation and patronage are much appreciated. This is a wonderful forum for everyone to comment, vent, pass along insight, etc. However, there’s no room for profane language, insults and other stuff that clearly crosses the line of decency and respect.
    So, please, do your part to keep this blog alive and make it enjoyable for everyone.

    ***

    Kell got booted again ??

  599. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m ready to blow this thing up.

    trade Palmer, McFadden, Kelly, Branch, McClain, etc

    I don’t think Heyward-Bey & Huff have any trade value with their existing contracts..

    All the cheap players that actually produce can stay. Seabass & Shane should be offered “fair” contracts as an opportunity to stay and finish their NFL careers in Oakland. We’re not going to pay $5 million more for them than any other team would

    David Shaw & Andrew Luck 2013

  600. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sorry, I meant Matt Barkley!

    LOL

  601. Gdog Says:

    Anyone toucan think of who looks like they improved their product on the field compared to last year?
    >>>>

    Maybe Myers when he is not blocking or in the endzone. Reese lately but that is mostly because he is finally getting more touches.

    Thats about it. Every other player returning looks much worse. Veldeer is playing pretty well.

    They coached up three players? And I can’t name a game where the team looked ready to play.. well, maybe Pitts and Atl. I see nothing to suggest this isn’t going to be a Todd Haley, or McDaniels situation… where the team meltdowns become so obvious we have to start over again next year.

    Maybe we will get lucky like Denver and bring in a proven veteran coach like John Fox.

    If McK lets DA keep Knapp as OC next year, I see 3-4 wins tops again next year. DA needs a PROVEN top of the line SB quality OC.

    Not just one of his buddies that has failed every time he has had any power.

  602. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Greg Jennings, Moore, Criner, and Streater in 2013?

  603. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raiders currently at #4 in the draft. Raiders, Eagles, Browns, and Panthers are all 3-8.

  604. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Cowboy fans are turning into Raider fans. Helpless to the ego of Jerry Jones. Lets hope our fortunes take a turn, and the Cowboys become the joke of the league.

  605. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I wonder who got banned!

  606. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:54 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I wonder who got banned!
    ——-
    I think it was either Fangs (Aryannation) or Oakofshow. If Fangs wasn’t banned, then that would be a joke.

  607. hwnrdr Says:

    Pretty sad you get banned from a blog huh?

  608. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:03 am
    Pretty sad you get banned from a blog huh?

    Especially a football blog.

  609. RaiderDuck Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:01 am
    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:54 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I wonder who got banned!
    ——-
    I think it was either Fangs (Aryannation) or Oakofshow. If Fangs wasn’t banned, then that would be a joke.

    =============================================

    It wasn’t Aryanation, because he’s posted since. I’d put my money on Oakfoshow, but he’ll probably be back later today under a new handle.

  610. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I hope it was Oakofshow. I’d rather see Fangs posts than Oakofshow.

  611. DJ Johnny Says:

    Fangs was banned and came back as Aryanation.

  612. DJ Johnny Says:

    I think the banning happened a few days ago, the moment Aryan started dropping by to share the love.

  613. Marks hair Says:

    If we did the firesale i wanted we’d have the top pick plus plenty of extra picks to revamp the roster.. especially if we traded back a few times.. dumb monkeys

  614. MarcusAllen Says:

    Scratch jacoby ford – he isn’t coming back from this latest foot injury. You could tell he was already slower and fearful in the preseason. His greatest asset isn’t there anymore.

  615. hwnrdr Says:

    Who would you take with the top pick? Just curious

  616. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    If the Raiders had the top pick, I would trade down to whoever wanted Geno Smith.

  617. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Who would you take with the top pick? Just curious

    =================================================

    Either Lotulelei or Jarvis Jones. We need defensive playmakers, first and foremost.

  618. hwnrdr Says:

    Someone asked this yesterday and I”m kinda curious if this is correct…did DA take away defensive play calling from Tarver in the second half of the Bengals game?

  619. javier Says:

    Prediction for Allen’s presser next Monday:

    “We need to execute better”

    “We need to do a better job of tackling”

    “We’ll look at the film and correct those mistakes”

    Roll up your sleeves and tells us something different.

  620. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    That Dennis Allen PC yesterday wasnt live, it was clearly editted,…that part about Pryor,…when Dennis said ya they discussed it,..well he also said they discussed it but then the entire coaching staff laughed hysterically about it…that was the part CSN editted. Pryor will be active in a game this year about the same time Priest is. Oh by the way good morning,..lots of snow on the ground, and much more coming soon,…cant wait for Sunday, going to be a rain game, sloppy, muddy, dirty…football!

  621. bcz24 Says:

    Defense produced sacks in the past. What changed except the coaching staff?
    **************************
    The aging of Seymour and Kelly has contributed greatly to our lack of pass rush. Those guys just aren’t getting any pressure.

  622. javier Says:

    618.hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    Someone asked this yesterday and I”m kinda curious if this is correct…did DA take away defensive play calling from Tarver in the second half of the Bengals game?

    **********************

    From I saw on TV, it looked as if Allen was sending in the defensive alignment signals!

  623. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    From what I could tell, nobody asked Allen if he was calling plays at his presser. I saw him calling plays on the sideline also.

  624. hwnrdr Says:

    Hmmm…interesting…could that be why they looked a little more alive in the second half?

  625. 4th Lombardi Says:

    Cold hard truths about contracts….

    Richard Seymour.$16mil a year for each of the next 4 years($8mil/yr guaranteed). Most likely he stays on the roster in 2013 and then is cut in 2014 so that he counts $8mil in 2013 and $16m in 2015. Seymour = dead cap money.

    Carson Palmer. Get over it. He’s underpaid this year and unless there is another restructure, he will be overpaid the next two years ($17mil in 2013 and $19mil in 2014). The good news is that only about $8mil is guaranteed. So we could see another 4 year restructure where we guarantee $12 mil and bring his salary down from $17 and $19 to $10 and $12 with 2015 and beyond being non-guaranteed he’ll never see.

    Players to be cut in 2013: Based on what they make in 2013 and beyond and their worth to the team, I see the followinhg players as candidates to be waived:

    Darren McFadden – 2013 $8mil ($2.5m guaranteed)
    Tommy Kelly – 2013 $9.4mil ($3mil guaranteed), 2014 – no guiaranteed
    Darrius Heywood Bey -2013 $10.6mil ($3mil guaranteed), 2014 $5.4mil ($2.6 guaranteed)

    This was compiled by another poster @ Worldwide FIB, Quartermaster who is the owner of site. Just a bit of reality on CUTTING PLAYERS. It is virtually impossible to “cut” Palmer or Seymour because of the “guaranteed” $ they are due. One of the biggest problems on this roster are player contracts which literally have ZERO incentives in them. NO TEAM IN THE NFL guarantees this kind of $, IT IS INSANE! Players get up front $ in signing bonuses then their contracts are not guaranteed…still lots of work for Reg to do AND we know Allen has obviously underachieved. Gotta give him at least next year or the org looks like an ongoing joke….

    It will only be marginally better next year unless Allen makes giant strides and “certain” assistants are shown the door…

  626. johnnyswing Says:

    The best thing about this past Sunday’s games was Pittsburgh’s 8 turnovers and Mike Tomlin’s presser. Cheers me up and makes me laugh every time I watch it!

  627. 4th Lombardi Says:

    Oh and BTW those $ figures make those players UNTRADEABLE
    also….

  628. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I don’t think McFadden will be cut. They might try and trade him for picks.

  629. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    There are a lot of teams who would love to have McFadden.

  630. Marks hair Says:

    Yrs of dumb followed by all new dumb

  631. javier Says:

    ESPN AFCWest Poll:

    Should Hue Jackson have been Kept?

  632. LILALDAVIS Says:

    Reggie Mac get’s called out by DIe Hard Raider Fan
    http://youtu.be/WBQ0VJvoJ1k <~~~~ WATCH

  633. Marks hair Says:

    Hue fired himself

  634. javier Says:

    McFadden is a great back once he gets past the line.

    However, runs too top heavy and can not make quick enough cuts for the ZBS.

  635. Marks hair Says:

    Dmac is a downhill runner. Not a zbs slasher.. knapp would know that if he didnt have shìt for brains

  636. Marks hair Says:

    Fire somebody you fat fùcking idiot!

  637. javier Says:

    If they plan to stick to there guns with this lame “non smash mouth” style of offense, then trade Mcfadden for some picks. Thats what I say.

    ZBS = not “Raider Football”

  638. Seymour Bush Says:

    Last night that idiotic troll was going nuts posting as me. I love watching them waste their lives.

  639. Seymour Bush Says:

    javier Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    McFadden is a great back once he gets past the line.
    ===================================

    When has McFadden ever been a great back? McFadden has had one good year and four very mediocre ones.

  640. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dam! Who got banned?

  641. Mr.LesterHayes Says:

    So effing depressing…Do I care one iota about the rest of the NFL season? I do not.

  642. javier Says:

    Jon Gruden brought that smash mouth, run it down your throat style of running to the Raiders. I remember the crowd would erupt when they would trot out the elephant package “extra tackles” to get that one or two yards with Zack Crockett.

    Man that was Raider football!

  643. DJ Johnny Says:

    631.javier Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:08 am
    ESPN AFCWest Poll:

    Should Hue Jackson have been Kept?

    I hope DA sees this and takes it personally and decides that instead of sticking staunchly to some scheme that doesn’t work, that it may be better to play to the strength’s of his players…if he’s interested in winning games.

  644. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:26 am
    Dam! Who got banned?
    ——-
    Either Oakofshow or Aryannations probably.

  645. RaiderDuck Says:

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:48 am
    That Dennis Allen PC yesterday wasnt live, it was clearly editted,…that part about Pryor,…when Dennis said ya they discussed it,..well he also said they discussed it but then the entire coaching staff laughed hysterically about it…that was the part CSN editted. Pryor will be active in a game this year about the same time Priest is. Oh by the way good morning,..lots of snow on the ground, and much more coming soon,…cant wait for Sunday, going to be a rain game, sloppy, muddy, dirty…football!

    ===========================================

    Interesting. Meanwhile, we have this post from several days ago:

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/11/21/playing-bengals-stokes-ongoing-debates-about-palmer-jackson/

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 am
    From my insider,..the brass are allowing Palmer one more start, and only due to the opponent,..after that its Pryor the rest of the way,…print that kiddies. By the way Pryor will not get his first win this year and will be released along with about 15 other losers the day after the Charger loss. Oh by the way happy Thanksgiving.

    ==========================================

    So which is it? Care to admit that your “source” is nothing but your imagination?

  646. javier Says:

    javier Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    McFadden is a great back once he gets past the line.
    ===================================

    When has McFadden ever been a great back? McFadden has had one good year and four very mediocre ones.

    *******************

    When they drafted him, the Raiders had that ZBS in place with Cable here. It wasn’t until Hue Jackson was hired as OC that McFadden began to thrive.

  647. DJ Johnny Says:

    632.LILALDAVIS Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Reggie Mac get’s called out by DIe Hard Raider Fan
    http://youtu.be/WBQ0VJvoJ1k <~~~~ WATCH

    I enjoy your stuff Lil Al.

    You are a passionate Raider fan.

    We share your pain.

  648. Marks hair Says:

    Hue should have played weekend at Bernies with Als carcass for a few months

  649. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    javier Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:27 am
    Jon Gruden brought that smash mouth, run it down your throat style of running to the Raiders. I remember the crowd would erupt when they would trot out the elephant package “extra tackles” to get that one or two yards with Zack Crockett.

    Man that was Raider football!

    —-

    Raider football is winning. Period. By any means necessary.

  650. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    dennis allen and reggie are wussifying the raiders….

  651. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Imagine how big Mystic and the other trolls eyes got when they read the headlines “Palmer Fired”

    Then imagine their dismay when they realized it was the Titans OC Chris Palmer…..

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/26/titans-fire-offensive-coordinator-chris-palmer/

  652. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We could probably get a 4th rounder for DMC.

    But is the ZBS really that important that you trade your best weapon and stunt the career of Veldheer & Wiz?..

  653. Marks hair Says:

    645. I noticed that too.

  654. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And again, Matt Giordano is the poster for why we are what we are.

    Hate that I was, but I was right the whole time.

  655. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “dennis allen and reggie are wussifying the raiders….”

    They seem to have a filter in place that attracts “Christian” or “Good Guys” type of players to the roster.

    Now if it were me, I would want players that put football first and god second….but that’s just me.

  656. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    2013 Draft/Free Agency = OLINE & PASS RUSH.

  657. Marks hair Says:

    I knew youd see it my way eventually dav.. coaches going counter to our talent.. its easier to replace coaches…

  658. javier Says:

    Raider Football is about winning with “Attitude”! That’s what I liked about this organization some 30 years ago and became a fan.

    I see no attitude and/or winning!

  659. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Hue should have played weekend at Bernies with Als carcass for a few months”

    That is seriously funny as hell I am still laughing!

  660. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:36 am
    “dennis allen and reggie are wussifying the raiders….”

    They seem to have a filter in place that attracts “Christian” or “Good Guys” type of players to the roster.

    Now if it were me, I would want players that put football first and god second….but that’s just me.

    —-

    I’d rather have an intelligent player who has perspective in life.

    Its football.

  661. RaidingTexas Says:

    javier Says:

    Jon Gruden brought that smash mouth, run it down your throat style of running to the Raiders. I remember the crowd would erupt when they would trot out the elephant package “extra tackles” to get that one or two yards with Zack Crockett.

    —————————————

    That team had an MVP-caliber QB Rich Gannon in his prime, a legitimate short yardage back in Zack (as you said), and a TRUE possession receiver in Tim Brown. This team is missing all three of those elements. We have failures at all three positions.

  662. Marks hair Says:

    You regressed every player on the team you’re fired

  663. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I’d rather have an intelligent player who has perspective in life.

    Its football.”

    I would wager that Peyton Manning spends a lot more time watching film, practicing and preparing for a game than he does reading a religious book.

  664. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    They seem to have a filter in place that attracts “Christian” or “Good Guys” type of players to the roster.
    —-
    That’s exactly true. Reggie did bring in Underwood from the Packers who was in all sorts of legal trouble.

  665. RaidingTexas Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:

    They seem to have a filter in place that attracts “Christian” or “Good Guys” type of players to the roster.

    ——————————

    How is that so? They cut the biggest idiot evangelist on the team in Aaron Curry.

  666. Silverandblack666 Says:

    666

  667. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:37 am
    I knew youd see it my way eventually dav.. coaches going counter to our talent.. its easier to replace coaches…

    —-

    Short term yea, but eventually you end up right where we were, stuck at 8-8.

    Coaches career’s are longer than players.

  668. javier Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    We could probably get a 4th rounder for DMC.

    But is the ZBS really that important that you trade your best weapon and stunt the career of Veldheer & Wiz?..

    *****************

    Exactly, a great coach makes adjustments to their schemes depending on the weapons he has on the team. Hue Jackson made that adjustment and was able to put in place a very good offense. We do not have a very good offense in place this year.

  669. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    If Reggie was all about “Good Guys”, don’t you think he would have cut Rolando already?

  670. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:40 am
    “I’d rather have an intelligent player who has perspective in life.

    Its football.”

    I would wager that Peyton Manning spends a lot more time watching film, practicing and preparing for a game than he does reading a religious book.

    —-

    DIRECT QUOTE FROM PEYTON MANNING :

    “I always felt it was very important to have a good relationship with the Lord. He always has to be your number one priority. I grew up in a good Christian home. My parents…we went to Sunday school and church every Sunday, so it’s always got to be a number one priority”

  671. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “How is that so? They cut the biggest idiot evangelist on the team in Aaron Curry.”

    You obviously did not read my post correctly….I said “attracts” to the organization not what determines how long they stay on the rooster…..so in essence you proved my point they did “attract” the most idiotic evangelist twitter posting player in the NFL.

  672. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    It has been reported that Manning prays before every football game, and his praying became headlines during the AFC Championships in 2007 when, before the game-winning play, Peyton said a quick prayer. He said:

    I said a little prayer there on that last drive. I don’t know if you’re supposed to pray or not in those kinds of situations, but I did

  673. DJ Johnny Says:

    # 649, # 660,

    Dennis. I like your insights but your two posts (above) seem to be in conflict.

    Raider football is winning by any means necessary and then you say “it’s just football”.

  674. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    “How is that so? They cut the biggest idiot evangelist on the team in Aaron Curry.”

    You obviously did not read my post correctly….I said “attracts” to the organization not what determines how long they stay on the rooster…..so in essence you proved my point they did “attract” the most idiotic evangelist twitter posting player in the NFL.
    —–
    He was here before Reggie.

  675. RaidingTexas Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:

    ..so in essence you proved my point they did “attract” the most idiotic evangelist twitter posting player in the NFL.

    ————————————-

    Hue Jackson brought Curry to Oakland.

  676. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:01 am
    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:54 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I wonder who got banned!
    ——-
    I think it was either Fangs (Aryannation) or Oakofshow. If Fangs wasn’t banned, then that would be a joke
    ———————————————
    Oakfoshow and Fangs are idiots hope it was them. They are spewing pure garbage on this otherwise civilizied blog. LOL

  677. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:45 am
    It has been reported that Manning prays before every football game, and his praying became headlines during the AFC Championships in 2007 when, before the game-winning play, Peyton said a quick prayer. He said:

    I said a little prayer there on that last drive. I don’t know if you’re supposed to pray or not in those kinds of situations, but I did
    ——
    Who cares?

  678. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    # 649, # 660,

    Dennis. I like your insights but your two posts (above) seem to be in conflict.

    Raider football is winning by any means necessary and then you say “it’s just football”.

    —-

    By any means necessary was in reference to a “scheme” or style being specific to the term “RAIDER FOOTBALL”. Which isnt true, no style in specific, just… win… baby…. :)

  679. Silverandblack666 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor he can say what he wants but I SEE him EVERY Sunday on a football field NOT in church like you say.

    Once more I will say this:

    “I would wager that Peyton Manning spends a lot more time watching film, practicing and preparing for a game than he does reading a religious book.”

    I would say Manning spends 100 hours a week on football and probably 1.5 hours a week in church.

    Point proven discussion over!

  680. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:47 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:45 am
    It has been reported that Manning prays before every football game, and his praying became headlines during the AFC Championships in 2007 when, before the game-winning play, Peyton said a quick prayer. He said:

    I said a little prayer there on that last drive. I don’t know if you’re supposed to pray or not in those kinds of situations, but I did
    ——
    Who cares?

    —-

    Funny, I dont remember you being in the conversation.

  681. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Hue Jackson brought Curry to Oakland.”

    Touche!

  682. DJ Johnny Says:

    676,

    Fangs is alive and well as “Aryanation”. He was on last night after the banning announcement.

  683. Marks hair Says:

    But you cant settle for hoffnan krapp or our line coaches.. terrible. The d??? Good greif.. i get we are changing directions but this was just stupid… no backup snapper? Come on man…

  684. DJ Johnny Says:

    678 Dennis,

    Got ya.

  685. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    DennisAllensVisor he can say what he wants but I SEE him EVERY Sunday on a football field NOT in church like you say.

    Once more I will say this:

    “I would wager that Peyton Manning spends a lot more time watching film, practicing and preparing for a game than he does reading a religious book.”

    I would say Manning spends 100 hours a week on football and probably 1.5 hours a week in church.

    Point proven discussion over!

    —-

    LOL!!

    That logic is so terribly flawed.

    And I like the ‘discussion over’ thing you did… lol..

  686. javier Says:

    javier Says:

    Jon Gruden brought that smash mouth, run it down your throat style of running to the Raiders. I remember the crowd would erupt when they would trot out the elephant package “extra tackles” to get that one or two yards with Zack Crockett.

    —————————————

    That team had an MVP-caliber QB Rich Gannon in his prime, a legitimate short yardage back in Zack (as you said), and a TRUE possession receiver in Tim Brown. This team is missing all three of those elements. We have failures at all three positions.

    ***********************************

    Coaching makes all the difference. You’re right, we did have very, very good players at that time.

    But what makes a good coach is “Adjustments” to their schemes and “motivates” his players to play above their abilities. DHB has regressed this year. Not the most talent WR we have, but was utilized base on his strengths the last few years where he made plays for us.

  687. Marks hair Says:

    Maybe we should pray for the teams plane crashing and the league tossing us a few sympathy picks.

  688. Silverandblack666 Says:

    you are what you do…you can always claim to be something else but you are what you spend your time doing.

    IMO

  689. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:54 am
    you are what you do…you can always claim to be something else but you are what you spend your time doing.

    IMO

    —-

    We spend more time sleeping than doing anything else.

    I guess im a state worker, not a Husband and Father of 3… because I spend more time sleeping & working…

    COME ON MAN..

  690. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “And I like the ‘discussion over’ thing you did… lol..”

    That was kind of funny I could have put the usual “nuff said” but I felt that was over used and outdated.

    What I meant was I am done with the religious talk in here today PLEASE PLEASE lets call a truce and stop the religion talk.

  691. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Duck,..my source told me what I told you all,…Iv had the same Alameda source for several years,…its what I was told,…but this Browns game isnt here yet,..lets see who starts it,…my source in the past has purposely mislead me to keep him/herself from being fired,…I will tell you this person job, not name,..this person is a luxury suite salesperson that sits in the owners box during games and was an intern in LA Raider days…tells me all kinds of stuff…I was told last night, while we were discussing Dennis`s PC, that not only are both Reg and Dennis safe in their jobs, but have been told they are doing a GREAT job by the owner himself, who as you know doesnt know football, doesnt follow it much, never liked it, hated his dad more then old man Kell did,…has only one thing on his mind, finding someone to build him a brand new stadium, and no cost to him, and at the same time giving up no percentage of the team, and it doesnt matter to him what city or state its in…thats Mark and Amys ONLY focus,…Mark had to the other day act pissed about a loss, but truth be told, wins and losses arent his bag…anyway, hope you all make it to the Browns game, party with Brien and me,…old kell youre welcome to,…Priest you too,..Hawaiin dude you better be there and where the Hells TheC?????

  692. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I respect your opinion tho SNB..

    But the refusal to see anyones else’s opinion is a stinky odor brother.

  693. DJ Johnny Says:

    Gruden yr’s our defense wasn’t spectacular but decent.

    Wasn’t our MLB Elijah Alexander? Good ole # 58?

  694. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “We spend more time sleeping than doing anything else.”

    That’s not true

    DAV can we call it quits on the religion stuff PLEASE!

  695. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    Gruden yr’s our defense wasn’t spectacular but decent.

    Wasn’t our MLB Elijah Alexander? Good ole # 58?

    —-

    Different game, rules & era man.

    Let Gruden go…

  696. Plunketthead Says:

    Who cares?

    I learned something I did not know from DAV’s post.

    FrankenPeyton is smarter then he looks

    nice post DAV

  697. raiderdav Says:

    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/Raider-Bag-Logo.jpg

  698. jesusraiderjim Says:

    LILALDAVIS Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Reggie Mac get’s called out by DIe Hard Raider Fan
    http://youtu.be/WBQ0VJvoJ1k <~~~~ WATCH

    —————————————————
    I Freakkinn love this dude man.
    He is always bringing it. Wish our team and DA was half this passionate

  699. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I will never eat Poppa John’s Pizza again, that’s for sure.

  700. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Disappointed to see Carolina win last night. Still hoping for Ron Rivera to get sch!tcanned and become our DC.

  701. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I respect your opinion tho SNB..

    But the refusal to see anyones else’s opinion is a stinky odor brother.”

    I can promise you that I have spent a lifetime saying…..Jesus, please protect me from your followers!

    I have heard the christian religious message a million times I can promise you bro…..I just want to get back to football

  702. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Bob, gotta work this weekend! Will be there Thursday night, which is actually my next day off! See you guys then! And yeah, where is TheC?

  703. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I will never eat Poppa John’s Pizza again, that’s for sure.”

    Let me guess…..Because he is a Republican donor?

  704. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    “We spend more time sleeping than doing anything else.”

    That’s not true

    DAV can we call it quits on the religion stuff PLEASE!

    —-

    Its never religion with me.

    And I dont recall starting the topic…

    God Bless.

  705. RaidingTexas Says:

    Javier Says:

    But what makes a good coach is “Adjustments” to their schemes and “motivates” his players to play above their abilities. DHB has regressed this year. Not the most talent WR we have, but was utilized base on his strengths the last few years where he made plays for us.

    —————————————-

    Well I’ve defended DA, but clearly I do have concerns now. I know this team is lacking consistent playmakers. But they just look completely uninterested at times. That’s a worrying sign.

    Dennis will get another season though. Anyone here hoping for a one and done is going to be severely disappointed. They’ll have better draft picks in 2013, and hopefully a better free agency. This team has to be much improved next season or Reggie will have to admit a mistake.

  706. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    If DA takes a greater hand in the defense and shuffles Tarver to the background, I still have hope the team can pull out 6 or 7 wins.

  707. raiderdav Says:

    new RAIDER LOGO PASS IT AROUND

    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/Raider-Bag-Logo.jpg

  708. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    I think TheC either got sick of the losers here, or busy with a different babe a night,…prolly both. I hope to see him at my tailgate before the year ends, hes the best.

  709. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:58 am
    Who cares?

    I learned something I did not know from DAV’s post.

    FrankenPeyton is smarter then he looks

    nice post DAV

    —-

    :)

  710. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Well I’ve defended DA, but clearly I do have concerns now. I know this team is lacking consistent playmakers. But they just look completely uninterested at times. That’s a worrying sign.

    Dennis will get another season though. Anyone here hoping for a one and done is going to be severely disappointed. They’ll have better draft picks in 2013, and hopefully a better free agency. This team has to be much improved next season or Reggie will have to admit a mistake.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Agreed 100%, RaidingTexas. Thoughtful post. Lacking around here lately.

    I’ll say this much: after the Bengals game, for the first time I found myself wishing HueJax hadn’t talked himself out of a job.

  711. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    RaiderDav,..if I see a Raider fan with a brown bag on his face I will take it off then blast him and put his teeth in that bag. Not kidding. Been to the jail in the coluseum and Oakland both,..some things are worth getting cuffed for.

  712. DJ Johnny Says:

    695.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:58 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    Gruden yr’s our defense wasn’t spectacular but decent.

    Wasn’t our MLB Elijah Alexander? Good ole # 58?

    —-

    Different game, rules & era man.

    Let Gruden go…


    I was just waxing some nostalgia since someone else brought him up.

    He’s “let go” in my book.

    He’s rumored to be a candidate with every job opening…pro or college that comes along.

    -Arkansas (supposedly offered him 6 mill. a yr.)
    -Tennessee Vols (still a hot rumor)
    -Dallas Cowboys
    -Philly Eagles

    …Oakland way down on the list as far as speculation but it will never end completely no matter where he goes or what he does.

  713. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I think Gruden to Philly is just about set in stone..

  714. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    …Oakland way down on the list as far as speculation but it will never end completely no matter where he goes or what he does.

    ++++++++

    Nope. Not until he leaves ESPN for somewhere else at any rate.

    Part of me would just about die with happiness to have Gruden back. The other part of me knows sequels are seldom as good as the original.

    Coaches like Dick Vermeil who step away from the game and then come back and win a Super Bowl are very very rare. And even he was on the verge of being fired until he stumbled ass backwards into Kurt Warner.

  715. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Lol Gruden to Philly,…he worked for Al,..will never do that again, and Lurie is a jerk who Jon will stay away from. Browns wouldnt shock me as Jons next job.

  716. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I’d laugh if Lance ended up at Arkansas. Wasn’t that the hot rumor in 2007, that he would leave the Raiders after one season for that job? Might’ve happened too, if they hadn’t persuaded Petrino to abandon his team before the season ended.

  717. Plunketthead Says:

    Reggie probably wants intelligent men with strong families and many just happen to be Christian

    I highly doubt he is recruiting based on ones religion

    If he is that dumb he does indeed need to be fired :smile: Then he could hit up bobs tailgate, pop some yellows, slam some sambuka and explain himself

  718. RaidingTexas Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I think Gruden to Philly is just about set in stone..

    —————————————–

    Agreed. Andy is just playing out the tape now. Dead man walking. Gruden to a college team is laughable. Dallas will go to Payton if they make a switch at all.

  719. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Nobody wants Jon back here more then me,..but not going to happen, SHE told me to my face. Shes bummed about it too,..she tried. :(

  720. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    If it hadn’t been for the Tuck Rule, I think a lot of Raiders fans would have an easier time letting go of Chucky. There’s always going to be this sense of unfinished business.

  721. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    “I will never eat Poppa John’s Pizza again, that’s for sure.”

    Let me guess…..Because he is a Republican donor?
    ——-
    Because they are right wing wackos, he is a f*cking Bronco, and their pizza sucks.

  722. Plunketthead Says:

    Gruden already has a SB ring
    He is going to Nashville to win an NC
    bummer Kentucky was not in the mix

  723. DJ Johnny Says:

    722,

    Nashville for a NC?

    Vanderbilt?

  724. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    John Gruden (to Raider Nation): ‘We are never ever ever ever ever, getting back together’.

  725. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:07 am
    Lol Gruden to Philly,…he worked for Al,..will never do that again, and Lurie is a jerk who Jon will stay away from. Browns wouldnt shock me as Jons next job.

    —-

    Lurie has owned the Eagles since 94.. Guess who his first OC was?… Jon Gruden.

  726. boss01 Says:

    721.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    “I will never eat Poppa John’s Pizza again, that’s for sure.”

    Let me guess…..Because he is a Republican donor?
    ——-
    Because they are right wing wackos, he is a f*cking Bronco, and their pizza sucks.

    ==========

    Isn’t the owner of Chick Fil’a the real right wing wacko? He actually spoke out I believe. It is the stupidest thing for a fast food place to be closed on sundays because of the owner’s beliefs.

  727. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Yes Dennis, thats why he wont return,..thanks for finally getting the point.

  728. Plunketthead Says:

    I got the Titans mixed up with Tennesee which is where I think Gruden is going. Knoxville, hows that?

  729. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I’d rather the Raiders hired Jay Gruden then bring back his brother.

  730. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:17 am
    Yes Dennis, thats why he wont return,..thanks for finally getting the point.

    —-

    Incorrect.

    Gruden wont go anywhere he doesnt have control over the 53 man roster.

    Philly is set up that exact way for Reid right now. Perfect fit.

  731. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Chip Kelly & Terrelle Pryor for 2013!!

    LOL, JK..

  732. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Ya ok Dennis,..you just keep thinking that,..maybe in 15 years when Jon still hasnt returned to work for Lurie you will get it. As of now youre just another clueless dork in here.

  733. Plunketthead Says:

    If I am in Johns shoes I stay at ESPN unless he is getting tired of not being in the middle of the action.

    In which case I would chose a nice college town for my family and I and plan on retiring there after leading them back to the bcs

  734. DJ Johnny Says:

    728,

    Yeah. The rumors are still hot and heavy for that.

    Some have said it’s a done deal for Gruden in Knoxville and they have “sources” who say the announcement will be made Nov.30th.

    I won’t believe it till I see it, but the buzz is it’s happening.

  735. RaidingTexas Says:

    Not sure if this has been brought up here, but I just heard on the radio here in Dallas:

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-jerry-jones-gm-and-owner-dallas-cowboys/Jnlqsjl6

    Is there a Raiders one yet? LOL

  736. boss01 Says:

    Gruden is tight with Mark’s mom, he would love to work for Mark, an owner who would rather party and doesn’t meddle.

  737. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Jons got it made in that booth with Tirico,..makes him look tall next to 5′2″ Mike Tirico.

  738. RaidingTexas Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Because they are right wing wackos, he is a f*cking Bronco, and their pizza sucks.

    ———————————–

    But that garlic sauce is pretty good.

  739. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Norco Bob, are you going to address the discrepancy in your predictions? See post #645

  740. The_Judge37 Says:

    I always like to hear Corkran justify Denis Allen as a Coach. Aside from the Steelers game, the Team hasn’t been prepared for any other game this season.

  741. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Build around these:

    Marcel Reece
    Darren McFadden
    Denarius Moore
    Jared Veldheer
    Stefen Wisniewski

    Dez Bryant
    Lamar Houston
    Miles Burris
    Phillip Wheeler
    Tyvon Branch

    Sebastian Janikowski

    Could care less about the rest..

  742. Raider O Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:17 am
    721.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    “I will never eat Poppa John’s Pizza again, that’s for sure.”

    Let me guess…..Because he is a Republican donor?
    ——-
    Because they are right wing wackos, he is a f*cking Bronco, and their pizza sucks.

    ==========

    Isn’t the owner of Chick Fil’a the real right wing wacko? He actually spoke out I believe. It is the stupidest thing for a fast food place to be closed on sundays because of the owner’s beliefs.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I know a lot of Muslims who close their businesses on Fridays and they still manage to make as much (if not more) than others who open 7 days a week.

  743. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    I always like to hear Corkran justify Denis Allen as a Coach. Aside from the Steelers game, the Team hasn’t been prepared for any other game this season.

    —-

    Do you expect something different out of a first time HC with the roster we have?..

    Not like he took over a dynasty.

  744. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I know a lot of Muslims who close their businesses on Fridays and they still manage to make as much (if not more) than others who open 7 days a week.
    ——
    That’s probably because they are cheap and pay less than minimum wage. :)

  745. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Reggie probably wants intelligent men with strong families and many just happen to be Christian

    I highly doubt he is recruiting based on ones religion

    If he is that dumb he does indeed need to be fired Then he could hit up bobs tailgate, pop some yellows, slam some sambuka and explain himself”

    I agree

  746. javier Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    Javier Says:

    But what makes a good coach is “Adjustments” to their schemes and “motivates” his players to play above their abilities. DHB has regressed this year. Not the most talent WR we have, but was utilized base on his strengths the last few years where he made plays for us.

    —————————————-

    Well I’ve defended DA, but clearly I do have concerns now. I know this team is lacking consistent playmakers. But they just look completely uninterested at times. That’s a worrying sign.

    Dennis will get another season though. Anyone here hoping for a one and done is going to be severely disappointed. They’ll have better draft picks in 2013, and hopefully a better free agency. This team has to be much improved next season or Reggie will have to admit a mistake.

    *******************************I

    I agree 100%. Reggie can’t fire DA after this season. We’ll still be the laughing stock of the league…dysfunctional as always!

    HOWEVER, he can relieve a few coaches that are not cutting it under his watch. Which I call Adjustments!!!

    If he doesn’t do that, it will be another disaster of a season next year

  747. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If a lot of you guys were realistic in the first place you wouldnt be so irrational right now.

  748. Raider O Says:

    Johnny Football is the best QB in college football, but I doubt he is going to have a good career in the NFL due to his weak arm.
    Good luck kid.

  749. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Albert, you need to scroll up, I responded to that,..try and keep up dude.

  750. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I know a lot of Muslims who close their businesses on Fridays and they still manage to make as much (if not more) than others who open 7 days a week.”

    Its because they have j3wish accountants.

  751. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Gotta run,…heading to Mont Bleu.

  752. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DAV,

    Agree with the list except for Bryant and Branch.

    Bryant = nice depth but nothing to “build around”

    Branch = horrible, but will be here for a year or two because of the guaranteed $$$ in his contract

  753. Raider O Says:

    LOL ABP.

  754. DMAC Says:

    Morning/afternoon peoples!
    What up Green party martians!

  755. hwnrdr Says:

    Whats up DMAC?

  756. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    DAV,

    Agree with the list except for Bryant and Branch.

    Bryant = nice depth but nothing to “build around”

    Branch = horrible, but will be here for a year or two because of the guaranteed $$$ in his contract

    —-

    Branch has his flaws, but come on.. look at who he’s playing with.

    And Bryant is the 9th most efficient DL in the NFL according to PFF..

  757. DMAC Says:

    I would like to see Hanson come back next season. He seems to be slightly improving every week.
    That will eliminate a need for a slot corner.

  758. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  759. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Whats up DMAC?
    ========

    Same schit, different toilet
    So u still not going to the schit stain game?

  760. DMAC Says:

    Branch isn’t horrible, but he sure isn’t worth that contract.

  761. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Branch isn’t horrible, but he sure isn’t worth that contract.

    —-

    Fair enough..

  762. Reggies Team Now Says:

    The CBs played pretty decent against the Bengals. That Joselio Hanson pick up is looking pretty good now. He got burned on one play to Green, but he’s a keeper. Bartel is back and playing well. He only gave up 2 catches.

  763. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Mr. President and Vice President !! good day sirs !!
    looks like the GreenParty is well represented !!

  764. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    wasnt talking about the religious type, what i meant by wussifying is smsll weak and slow players….criner is big but he wont run away from dl…catch and down. Bring in a big powerful oline….

  765. Raider O Says:

    Good day my green party brothers. Mr. Prez and ODB are here!
    Vote green in 2016!

  766. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Reggies Team Now Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    The CBs played pretty decent against the Bengals. That Joselio Hanson pick up is looking pretty good now. He got burned on one play to Green, but he’s a keeper. Bartel is back and playing well. He only gave up 2 catches.

    —-

    For sure, I was calling for Joselio the first time the Eagles cut him after the got Nnamdi..

    Perfect slot guy.

  767. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    lol cbs played decent….what was daltons rating?

  768. hwnrdr Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:34 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Whats up DMAC?
    ========

    Same schit, different toilet
    So u still not going to the schit stain game?

    Nope! I have to work…in fact they already gave a schedule for Sunday, so i will see you guys Thursday night!

  769. DMAC Says:

    Hanson is somewhat of a play maker.
    When was the last time you see a player on the D, make a play like he did on Sunday?

  770. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:34 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Whats up DMAC?
    ========

    Same schit, different toilet
    So u still not going to the schit stain game?

    Nope! I have to work…in fact they already gave a schedule for Sunday, so i will see you guys Thursday night!
    ========

    How much you want for your tix?
    lol

  771. The Big Banana Says:

    Why does it upset some of you that a business closes on Sunday? I say good for him and his employees. I like businesses that are closed Sundays and holidays.

    Too bad so many consumers are too selfish not to stay away on holidays so that the retail workers of this nation can actually have a decent Thanksgiving with their loved ones.

    I say good for him. Wish all businesses took that sort of initiative.

  772. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Anyone have any tix to the Thursday Night game vs Denver they want to sell??

  773. The_Judge37 Says:

    Do you expect something different out of a first time HC with the roster we have?..

    Not like he took over a dynasty.
    ———–

    Like Mark Davis said, can’t overlook regression. It’s one thing to struggle with poor talent on Defense, but to regress on both sides of the ball is unacceptable.

  774. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, DMAC…my two tix are gone…
    My friends brother and his cousin (the one that always has weed on him) will be in our place!

  775. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Do you expect something different out of a first time HC with the roster we have?..

    Not like he took over a dynasty.
    ———–

    Like Mark Davis said, can’t overlook regression. It’s one thing to struggle with poor talent on Defense, but to regress on both sides of the ball is unacceptable.
    =========

    Exactly

  776. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:38 am
    lol cbs played decent….what was daltons rating?
    ——
    I saw it with my own eyes. Most of his yards came down the middle. Bad safety play as usual. Reggie needs to get his own guys at the safety position.

  777. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    LOL, DMAC…my two tix are gone…
    My friends brother and his cousin (the one that always has weed on him) will be in our place!
    ========

    I was sleeping on that 1.
    lol

  778. inonewordraider Says:

    what about DA’s interview sold Reggie?

  779. The_Judge37 Says:

    Tyvon Branch is a product of poor coaching throughout the years. He’s got good tackling form, a good motor and speed. Him constantly playing out of position and taking bad angles is poor coaching. Guys like Huff, McClain and Kelly who give up on plays and jog around are guys who are unsalvagable and need to be cut.

  780. DMAC Says:

    Reggies Team Now Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:38 am
    lol cbs played decent….what was daltons rating?
    ——
    I saw it with my own eyes. Most of his yards came down the middle. Bad safety play as usual. Reggie needs to get his own guys at the safety position.
    ===========

    Having Huffy play corner is hurting us more w/ Gio being the starter at FS.
    We should of never let Lee go!!!!!!

  781. Raider O Says:

    TBB,

    Business owners are greedy and consumers are selfish. Profits, prices, and availability!

  782. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    i saw bartell toasted on a td…oh but wait he was suppose to have help…danmn zone…

  783. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Last year our avg margin of victory was 5.75.. Only 1 win by more than 7.

    Avg margin of defeat was 15!!.. only 2 losses that werent double figures…

    We were lucky to be 8-8… REALITY.

  784. The_Judge37 Says:

    778.inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:43 am
    what about DA’s interview sold Reggie?
    ——–

    “My Defense in Denver bailed out Tebow enough times. All me Reggie, not John Fox” – Dennis Allen

  785. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Having Huffy play corner is hurting us more w/ Gio being the starter at FS.
    We should of never let Lee go!!!!!!
    —–
    Huff gave up a play. But he also made some great plays. The guy can play corner. He just lacks experience.

  786. DMAC Says:

    Bartell seems to have lost a step. Gets beat deep 2 many times. I thought he would play better. Maybe he’s just getting into form w/ all the lost time.
    It seems like 1 week Huffy gets burned and the next week Bartell gets burned.

  787. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    And Bryant is the 9th most efficient DL in the NFL according to PFF..

    +++++++

    I have yet to really buy what PFF is selling. They rated McClain as a top 10 run stuffing linebacker in the whole league.

    What’s efficiency anyway? Usually I see Bryant getting blown out of the way to make room for the opposing RB to run through.

    And as for Branch, the next time I see him take a correct angle or properly wrap up will be the first this whole season.

  788. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    TBB,

    Business owners are greedy and consumers are selfish. Profits, prices, and availability!

    ***************************
    the only places that should be open
    are liquor stores and topless bars !!

  789. Raider O Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Tyvon Branch is a product of poor coaching throughout the years. He’s got good tackling form, a good motor and speed. Him constantly playing out of position and taking bad angles is poor coaching. Guys like Huff, McClain and Kelly who give up on plays and jog around are guys who are unsalvagable and need to be cut.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Excellent post. I agree 100%.
    name the players we develoed in the last decade? Nnamdi?

  790. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Last year our avg margin of victory was 5.75.. Only 1 win by more than 7.

    Avg margin of defeat was 15!!.. only 2 losses that werent double figures…

    We were lucky to be 8-8… REALITY.

    ++++++++++

    THANK YOU

    I wish this would sink in to more people.

  791. Raider O Says:

    Developed*

  792. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    This year our avg margin of victory is 5.3… Only 1 win by more than 7

    Avg margin of defeat is 18.. only 1 loss that wasnt double figures…

    Not much regression…

  793. DMAC Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Last year our avg margin of victory was 5.75.. Only 1 win by more than 7.

    Avg margin of defeat was 15!!.. only 2 losses that werent double figures…

    We were lucky to be 8-8… REALITY.

    ++++++++++

    THANK YOU

    I wish this would sink in to more people.
    =========

    Wins are wins
    Losses are losses

  794. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Dennis Allen isn’t going anywhere. Reggie wants consistency. He’s going to give it time, as he should. Allen is going to have to decide if he wants to stick with Knapp and Tarver.

  795. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Why does it upset some of you that a business closes on Sunday? I say good for him and his employees. I like businesses that are closed Sundays and holidays.

    Too bad so many consumers are too selfish not to stay away on holidays so that the retail workers of this nation can actually have a decent Thanksgiving with their loved ones.

    I say good for him. Wish all businesses took that sort of initiative.”

    That’s all fine and dandy but lets say I have ran out of toilet paper and have a two pound chud starting to turtle head on me and I am driving around town looking for an open store so I can get some ass wipe and nothing is open so I have to unload at a public restroom at the 76 station that bathroom is nasty and then I catch herpes off the toilet seat and my wife divorces me all because you muslem or christian folk wanted to close the town for a religious day.

    I say no I live things being open every day.

  796. The_Judge37 Says:

    785.Reggies Team Now Says:
    —–
    Huff gave up a play. But he also made some great plays. The guy can play corner. He just lacks experience.
    —–

    Huff always give up at least one HUGE play. One of his problems is he thinks he’s fast enough to recover. But really this has been Huff’s MO since he got here. Does enough each season to make you think he’s salvagable. And we fall for it everytime.

  797. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    hopefully reggie wont be around to make that decision…

  798. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am
    And Bryant is the 9th most efficient DL in the NFL according to PFF..

    +++++++

    I have yet to really buy what PFF is selling. They rated McClain as a top 10 run stuffing linebacker in the whole league.

    What’s efficiency anyway? Usually I see Bryant getting blown out of the way to make room for the opposing RB to run through.

    And as for Branch, the next time I see him take a correct angle or properly wrap up will be the first this whole season.

    —-

    PFF uses stuff like stats and stuff..

    LOL..

  799. hwnrdr Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am
    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    TBB,

    Business owners are greedy and consumers are selfish. Profits, prices, and availability!

    ***************************
    the only places that should be open
    are liquor stores and topless bars !!

    LMAO! Teh ODB for President of the liquor commission!

  800. The_Judge37 Says:

    792.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am
    This year our avg margin of victory is 5.3… Only 1 win by more than 7

    Avg margin of defeat is 18.. only 1 loss that wasnt double figures…

    Not much regression…
    ————-

    Running Game – Reggressed
    DHB – Regressed
    Moore – Regressing
    Wiz and Veldheer – Regressed
    Already bad Defense and Special Teams – Regressed.

  801. bcz24 Says:

    4 of our next 5 games are very winnable. I think Peyton will paste us again on Thursday night but we should (at least) be highly competitive in the other 4 if not win them outright.

    First up Cleveland. Mission #1, contain TRich, I don’t think they have the ability to beat us through the air with McCoy likely starting for a banged up and concussed Wheedon.

  802. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    “Why does it upset some of you that a business closes on Sunday? I say good for him and his employees. I like businesses that are closed Sundays and holidays.

    Too bad so many consumers are too selfish not to stay away on holidays so that the retail workers of this nation can actually have a decent Thanksgiving with their loved ones.

    I say good for him. Wish all businesses took that sort of initiative.”

    That’s all fine and dandy but lets say I have ran out of toilet paper and have a two pound chud starting to turtle head on me and I am driving around town looking for an open store so I can get some ass wipe and nothing is open so I have to unload at a public restroom at the 76 station that bathroom is nasty and then I catch herpes off the toilet seat and my wife divorces me all because you muslem or christian folk wanted to close the town for a religious day.

    I say no I live things being open every day.

    —-

    Or how about the day before when you take a dump and notice that you are running low, you go buy some. :)

  803. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Reggie’s presser on Friday is needed. I think his message will calm a lot of fans down. We just got to stick to the program.

  804. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    PFF uses stuff like stats and stuff..

    +++++++

    I’m a HUGE baseball stathead. Can’t get enough sabermetrics. I have yet to be fully convinced you can do the same thing for football.

    Again, for them to sit there and tell me that Rolando McClain is one of the 10 best LBs in the league against the run is INSANITY. I’ve watched him in almost every game for 3 seasons now. For every one good stuff he makes, there’s 3 plays he’s out of position or getting mauled by a fullback.

    Or to rate DeMarcus Van Dyke as one of the best cover corners in the league last year. The same guy who can’t sniff the field with the Steelers.

    There’s other things, but those are the most glaring examples.

    Would LOVE to know what stats their using to come up with this stuff.

  805. Raider O Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am
    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    TBB,

    Business owners are greedy and consumers are selfish. Profits, prices, and availability!

    ***************************
    the only places that should be open
    are liquor stores and topless bars !!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    Don’t forget dispensaries.

  806. DMAC Says:

    You guys see Nnamndi trying to play last night?

    He’s horrible now. I think dude has lost his passion for football.

  807. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    *They’re using, not their using.

  808. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    You guys see Nnamndi trying to play last night?

    He’s horrible now. I think dude has lost his passion for football

    ++++++++++++++

    I agree. Remember all the talk he was interested in New York because it’d help him pursue an acting career after he’s retired? Think he’s looking forward to that now more than anything. Football’s just a paycheck to him now, not a passion

  809. The_Judge37 Says:

    806.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    You guys see Nnamndi trying to play last night?

    He’s horrible now. I think dude has lost his passion for football.
    ——-

    That series at the end with Back to back to back false starts probably had him thinking Tommy Kelly was on the field.

  810. The_Judge37 Says:

    *Offsides* not false starts

  811. fingers Says:

    It almost sounds silly … But 2nd place in the Afc west is still possible….. The Raiders are only a game behind the Doltz …

  812. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol, Silver. Plan ahead, my man! Or are you like all these goons buying frozen turkeys on Thanksgiving Day?! Lol!

  813. The Big Banana Says:

    Silver, you should never ever be that low on TP! What’s wrong with you, man? Way too close to disaster for my liking. I buy TP at least 4 days before I am scheduled to run out.

  814. fingers Says:

    Lol… Football talks slow when your teams 3/8…

  815. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    It almost sounds silly … But 2nd place in the Afc west is still possible….. The Raiders are only a game behind the Doltz
    —-

    Why mess up our draft position??

    Lose out!..

  816. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    So they banned a few clowns hu!. Good it was getting out of control.

  817. Reggies Team Now Says:

    If the Raiders finish 3-13, Dennis Allen is staying. Get him some horses on that defense, and he will do some plowing.

  818. fingers Says:

    You never ask players to lose out…you want players that don’t try and win.?… We’ve already got those ….

  819. The_Judge37 Says:

    Why mess up our draft position??

    Lose out!..
    —–

    Hell No!

  820. DJ Johnny Says:

    794.Reggies Team Now Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    Dennis Allen isn’t going anywhere. Reggie wants consistency. He’s going to give it time, as he should. Allen is going to have to decide if he wants to stick with Knapp and Tarver.

    The only thing “consistent” with this team is getting our azzes handed to us week after week.

    Never before in Raiders history have we been hammered by more than 21 pt’s three straight weeks.

    What started out as a bit of promise, has turned into a total and unmitigated freefall.

  821. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    It almost sounds silly … But 2nd place in the Afc west is still possible….. The Raiders are only a game behind the Doltz
    —-

    Why mess up our draft position??

    Lose out!..
    =======

    I said the same thing, but I would also like to see us try to put a little win streak together at end the season. Probably not happening though.

  822. DutchRaider77 Says:

    10.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    [Carson] doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & [right] guard [left in FA and got switched to the left side.]

    Now [Carson] doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line
    _______________________________________________________

    Good Post Mistic, watching the Bengels game I thought the same thing!

  823. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Why mess up our draft position??

    Lose out!..
    —–

    Hell No!

    __——-
    Hell no X2.

  824. DJ Johnny Says:

    Dennis Allen has shown NOTHING to suggest he is the coach to help turn it around.

    REGRESSION at every level.

    Penalties? Who give’s a red rats rip.

  825. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    week after week getting handled…dennis allens “it” factor…

  826. Reggies Team Now Says:

    An easy way to finish 3-13 and appease the fans is to start playing Pryor.

  827. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I noticed something very disturbing last night. I logged on and made a couple of comments. I came back later to post and I saw some very strange things.

    There was a one man sock puppet show. There are a few posters here that have several handles, commonly called cross posters.

    I remember when I joined the board in the jamarcus days, and one poster in particular was a bit of a nut case. he initially engaged me in decent topic driven raider debate, but after i cornered him on a few issues he quickly melted down and would go into profanity laced insults, and race baiting. her would throw anything out and then be upset if you had stats that could debunk his argument. His name was madden raider.

    Madden radier or mr, switched handles often, using gradjkowski raider and real madden raider to name a few of that time. He suddenly disappeared and reemerged as sullivan and so on. how do i know he did that, because he admitted to it on a few occasions.

    This guy would create handles, then create other handles to counter his original persona, or agree with his own position.

    I noticed last night that there are several posters that fit this m.o.. i realized that are a few relatively new posters that as soon as they appeared they quickly attacked me. never once trying to have a real dialogue. These new guys referenced things that i have posted, and situations that pre date the handles they are using by months or even years.

    Last night one of the cross posters slipped up and used exact phrasing in several post under different handles.

    raider e is macnugget 20, dr.rob is arayan, fangs, mr, sulli and so on.

    These cross posting trolls put on a show last night and dominated he boards starting at about 9;30 and went on for hours! they argues with themselves, agreed with themselves, threatened violence against themselves, and race baited them selves.

    Actually if it wasnt such bizarre weird behavior, i would think it quiet pathetic and even sad. T

    very norman bates like stuff…..these dudes are creepers

  828. fingers Says:

    I can’t see McKenzie dumping Allen after this year….I’m not at all impressed with Allen but I see him here at least 2 yrs trying to get this turned around

  829. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    its also an easy out for a floundering staff..

  830. Reggies Team Now Says:

    First you get some discipline, that is going in the right direction. The next step is to get the right players in here. Year one Reggie installed his system. Year two will be replacing the roster. Year 3 we should see some winning.

  831. DMAC Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    10.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    [Carson] doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & [right] guard [left in FA and got switched to the left side.]

    Now [Carson] doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line
    _______________________________________________________

    Good Post Mistic, watching the Bengels game I thought the same thing!
    =======

    You hear the sound bites last night at halftime?

    You can hear Dalton say, “the worst thing is a 3 step drop and your hit”
    (Sorry don’t remember exact words, I was hella high)

  832. Raider O Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Last year our avg margin of victory was 5.75.. Only 1 win by more than 7.

    Avg margin of defeat was 15!!.. only 2 losses that werent double figures…

    We were lucky to be 8-8… REALITY.

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am
    This year our avg margin of victory is 5.3… Only 1 win by more than 7

    Avg margin of defeat is 18.. only 1 loss that wasnt double figures…

    Not much regression…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    So we allowing more points and scoring less per game.
    We regressed!

  833. The_Judge37 Says:

    828.fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    I can’t see McKenzie dumping Allen after this year….I’m not at all impressed with Allen but I see him here at least 2 yrs trying to get this turned around
    ——

    It’s unfortunate and i don’t agree with it but you’re probably right. Hopefully they at least make changes to the Staff but a whole lot of people have to admit mistake for major change to happen. Either Allen for his hires, Reggie for his hire, or Mark Davis for his hire.

  834. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    Dr. Rob, you wanna chat Raider football?

    ***************

    sure. whaddya got?
    Raider E Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Tell me ,Kell? Why does Knapp insist on running that same dumbass strech-play from the 5 yard line down in?
    KoolKell Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Going to bed. Too late now. When the Mistic haters come in………………that’s all there is.

  835. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mctroll20 has got to be one of the most disturbed guys around…

  836. fingers Says:

    I thought Allen’s defensive background would be a plus…. Haven’t seen it…

  837. DMAC Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Last year our avg margin of victory was 5.75.. Only 1 win by more than 7.

    Avg margin of defeat was 15!!.. only 2 losses that werent double figures…

    We were lucky to be 8-8… REALITY.

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am
    This year our avg margin of victory is 5.3… Only 1 win by more than 7

    Avg margin of defeat is 18.. only 1 loss that wasnt double figures…

    Not much regression…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    So we allowing more points and scoring less per game.
    We regressed!
    ========

    Regression!!!!!!!!!

  838. DJ Johnny Says:

    I am not saying to fire DA after the season.

    I’m sick of having a new HC every yr.

  839. DMAC Says:

    Bring back Hue!!!!!!!!!

    To coach my Cal Bears!

  840. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:13 am Post #827================

    What was that Confucious said? The faults one see’s most clearly in others are often reflections of one’s own.

  841. DJ Johnny Says:

    2011-7-4
    2012-3-8

    REGRESSION!

  842. fingers Says:

    The judge… I agree… I’d say the first one outta here should be Knapp and Tarver

  843. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Dennis will be fine once he gets the horses.

  844. fingers Says:

    Special teams coach too… Hoffman needs to go

  845. The_Judge37 Says:

    842.fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    The judge… I agree… I’d say the first one outta here should be Knapp and Tarver
    ——

    Don’t forget the ST coach. Blocked punts, Returns, etc….

  846. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    10.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    [Carson] doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & [right] guard [left in FA and got switched to the left side.]

    Now [Carson] doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line
    _______________________________________________________

    Good Post Mistic, watching the Bengels game I thought the same thing!
    ===========

    why butcher my post on cam newton dutch?

    That is just weak.

    Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.

    I will say this about newton though he needs to look at some dan marino clips, and learn to slide to the left and right int he pocket to avoid the middle rush , create a lane he can step into. He right now is either going to stand in the pocket and throw falling away from pressure ( like bret farve) or take off and run. he should add a little marino to his game so he can have more options and not have to run every time pressure comes up the middle.

  847. fingers Says:

    Reggie’s… This teams such a disaster it’s gonna take a while… I think Allen’s Safe at least another year…. And I hope you’re right

  848. The_Judge37 Says:

    843.Reggies Team Now Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Dennis will be fine once he gets the horses.
    ——–

    Tie him down to a couple of horses and send em in opposite directions is the best option

  849. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    our pass protection is far better than the panthers.

    +++++++

    LOL

    You dont’ really believe this. You can’t.

  850. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Probably won’t happen, but would love to see McFadden and Palmer both traded for a #1 pick, perhaps to the Jets.

  851. DMAC Says:

    I still want to keep Tarver.
    We have sorry ass players on the defensive side of the ball.
    Get him another shot next season w/ the same scheme.
    Lots of slicing and dicing at the end of the season to see who really wants to play football and who’s pretenders.
    I don’t think Tarver runs his practices w/ his safeties blitzing 15 yards away from the line of scrimmage.

  852. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I wonder if cork now considers mark davis one of the ‘more radical members” of the raiders staff since he has demanded to see pryor.

  853. fingers Says:

    The pass protection is horrible…. Lorenzo Neal and Romo. We’re showing clip of the Bengals coming untouched at Palmer… And it wasn’t just up the middle ..

  854. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    842.fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    The judge… I agree… I’d say the first one outta here should be Knapp and Tarver
    ——

    Don’t forget the ST coach. Blocked punts, Returns, etc….
    =========

    Dline coach has got to go 2!!!!!!!!!

    Bring back Wauffle!!!!

  855. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    Lets not forget that traver was kind off our last option at DC, i remember the team being denied of interviewing a couple of guys ( cant recall who they were) with that said I dont think Allen is going anywhere but if we could find a decent DC and get rid of Knapp and bring a guy who can run the ZBS (which allen says is what he wants to use)with alot more consistency and better play calling it will help this team alot.

  856. DMAC Says:

    Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.
    ========

    Pass that schit Mistic

  857. fingers Says:

    Mark Davis demanded to see Pryor.?… I missed that..

  858. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Banned?? They should post their names for further humiliation.

    Anyway catch Dilfer on the Herd yesterday? Was talking about the “wave of the future” with running QB’s, but brought up an interesting stat.

    Less than 50% of 3rd and 4th and 1 runs last season converted. First time in NFL history it was under 50%. More 3rd and 4th and 2’s, were converted via pass than run.

    Wave guys like Tebow, Griffin and Cam seem to convert those very easily out of that shotgun slam play, rahter than turning around and handing it off which doesn’t work (we stopped the Bengals like 3 times trying to do it, Schmitt got denied doing it, and last night the Eagles failed doing it).

    Pryor would help dramatically with those.

  859. DutchRaider77 Says:

    846.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    10.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    [Carson] doesn’t believe in his o-line. If you notice almost all of the pressure comes right up the middle. This has been going on since last year but got worse after starting center & [right] guard [left in FA and got switched to the left side.]

    Now [Carson] doesn’t step into his throw thinking pressure is coming.

    Fire the coaches and address the pass protection & interior of the o line
    _______________________________________________________

    Good Post Mistic, watching the Bengels game I thought the same thing!
    ===========

    why butcher my post on cam newton dutch?

    That is just weak.

    Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.

    I will say this about newton though he needs to look at some dan marino clips, and learn to slide to the left and right int he pocket to avoid the middle rush , create a lane he can step into. He right now is either going to stand in the pocket and throw falling away from pressure ( like bret farve) or take off and run. he should add a little marino to his game so he can have more options and not have to run every time pressure comes up the middle.

    ____________________________________________________

    You have to admit Palmer had some awful protection on Sunday! Brisel looked TERRIBLE! You really thought the line gave Palmer a chance on Sunday?

    Why change your post? Thought it was a good post that actually reflected both what the Carolina Panthers and the Oakland Raiders have issues with as a team.

    I thought I made it pretty obvious by the [___} that it wasn’t your words.

  860. fingers Says:

    Dmac… True… I’m sick and tired of special teams giving up big returns

  861. The_Judge37 Says:

    Dline coach has got to go 2!!!!!!!!!

    Bring back Wauffle!!!!
    ——-

    Yes! Bring back Steve Wiz too.

  862. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Banned?? They should post their names for further humiliation.

    ______________________________________________________

    No they should post their real names!

  863. DMAC Says:

    DMAC is clearly injury prone.
    Would like to us make a play for D. Williams from the Panthers. Their loaded at the position and Williams seems to be probably on his way out anyways, since he’s the back-up to Stewart now.
    He may to pricey though. Not sure about his contract.

  864. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Hoffman should be fired in the locker room the second after the last game of the season.

    Tarver can wait until the next day just to be nice.

    Knapp? Let’s see what happens the rest of the season. Not looking good for him either.

  865. DMAC Says:

    Beech is responsible for at least 10 other log in names.
    Thats a fact jack!!!!

  866. fingers Says:

    Silver… Lol…

  867. The Big Banana Says:

    Anyone need tickets to this week’s game?

  868. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Al Davis

  869. bcz24 Says:

    852.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    I wonder if cork now considers mark davis one of the ‘more radical members” of the raiders staff since he has demanded to see pryor.
    *******************
    I’d like to see some proof of that. I follow numerous media outlets that cover the Raiders and I have seen nothing of the sort.

  870. DMAC Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Anyone need tickets to this week’s game?
    =====

    Me

  871. fingers Says:

    Silver… I agree… Problably will can those guys… Hope so anyways

  872. DMAC Says:

    I still will attend games, but I’m not spending $40-$50 anymore this season to watch a bunch of clowns play.
    Hell fk’n naw!!

  873. Reggies Team Now Says:

    what’s going on here?

  874. bcz24 Says:

    863.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    DMAC is clearly injury prone.
    Would like to us make a play for D. Williams from the Panthers. Their loaded at the position and Williams seems to be probably on his way out anyways, since he’s the back-up to Stewart now.
    He may to pricey though. Not sure about his contract.
    *******************
    His contract is absurdly priced. He isn’t performing very well even when he is the lead back. Stewart has spent a good deal of this season injured and Williams hasn’t done anything.

  875. Reggies Team Now Says:

    every other post isn’t going through

  876. The_Judge37 Says:

    Knapp is an idiot. Carson Palmer is not a guy you can have dink and dunk all game long. He starts to get over confident and then forces a bad throw he thinks he can make, it’s only a matter of time. He’s at his best when he’s taking shots down feild to WR’s who can go get his passes. Like Chad used to do, like Moore is capable of.

  877. fingers Says:

    All I heard Mark Davis say about Pryor playing was ” it’s the coachs decision”… Or it a coaching matter… That’s it….

  878. Raider O Says:

    Coaches & players that need to go:
    1- Knapp
    2- Tarver
    3- Hoffman
    4- OL coach
    5- DL coach
    6- Seymour
    7- TK
    8- Lechler
    9- Brisiel
    10- Barnes
    11- CC
    12- DHB (if he doesn’t restructure)

  879. bcz24 Says:

    Consider the Jets out of the trade market for anyone. Tannenbaum is getting fired at the end of the year a new GM is not going to give away high picks (or any picks for that matter).

  880. DMAC Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    863.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    DMAC is clearly injury prone.
    Would like to us make a play for D. Williams from the Panthers. Their loaded at the position and Williams seems to be probably on his way out anyways, since he’s the back-up to Stewart now.
    He may to pricey though. Not sure about his contract.
    *******************
    His contract is absurdly priced. He isn’t performing very well even when he is the lead back. Stewart has spent a good deal of this season injured and Williams hasn’t done anything.
    =========

    Change of scenery is needed.
    Let him start fresh w/ a new team.
    But probably 2 pricey anyways.

  881. RaidingTexas Says:

    Nap Harris running for Congress:

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/16642530-418/ex-nu-star-in-the-game.html

  882. fingers Says:

    Raider O… Agree with you list…

  883. fingers Says:

    Isn’t McFadden under contract for 1 more yr?

  884. DJ Johnny Says:

    Here’s Reggie’s Presser:

    “We appreciate the support of the fans throughout this 1st yr. of the post Al Davis era.

    We remain committed to excellence. We have not gotten the results we had hoped for thus far this season, but I want to assure the Raider fans, as well as the coaches and players, that we do have a plan for success and we will succeed.

    I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. We remain commited to Coach Allen…as well as Coach Knapp and Coach Tarver.

    We will continue to do our best to make sure all of our players are put in the best position to have an opportunity to be successful.

    Change isn’t always easy and sometimes can seem slow and painful, but there is a light at the end of the tunnell and we WILL fix this and get the Raiders back to our rightful place in our division and the NFL.”

    I’ll take few questions”.

  885. The_Judge37 Says:

    878.Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Coaches & players that need to go:
    1- Knapp
    2- Tarver
    3- Hoffman
    4- OL coach
    5- DL coach
    6- Huff
    7- TK
    8- McCLain
    9- Brisiel
    10- Barnes
    11- CC
    12- Matt Giordano, Shante Spencer
    ——-

    Seymour can be a decent 3rd down pass rusher from the inside. Problem is he is playing the NT while Kelly does nothing in the 3 Tech spot. Seymour witn limited snaps from the 3 tech can still be good for one more year. Start Bryant, move Houston inside and get a DE with some speed.

  886. hwnrdr Says:

    And then DA will come in, rip one then leave…

  887. fingers Says:

    DJ… That’s problably about right

  888. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the bye week next week is where the rubber meets the road for this staff.

    However, that comes with the caveat they have to actually compete the rest of the year and maybe win a game or two.

  889. DMAC Says:

    886
    take a deep whiff 1st
    Than leave
    lol

  890. DutchRaider77 Says:

    876.The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Knapp is an idiot. Carson Palmer is not a guy you can have dink and dunk all game long. He starts to get over confident and then forces a bad throw he thinks he can make, it’s only a matter of time. He’s at his best when he’s taking shots down feild to WR’s who can go get his passes. Like Chad used to do, like Moore is capable of.

    __________________________________________________________

    Yeah, thought Carson was going to be the 1st year Favre of the Vikings, ride Peterson (McFadden) and make a couple clutch throws when there is 8 guys in the box.

  891. Reggiehater Says:

    Cork sent me a personal email this morning and says even though he agrees with absolutly everything I say,I should tone it down just a small tad.He is trying to get me a press pass for Friday cause he has never heard such an intelligent Raider fan in his life.So get your popcorn ready for Friday cause I’m gonna turn that motha out.WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  892. The_Judge37 Says:

    “I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. We remain commited to Coach Allen…as well as Coach Knapp and Coach Tarver.”
    ——-

    Wow, way to give us the Finger Reggie.

  893. DMAC Says:

    Damn u Vegas
    U killed my little win streak

  894. DJ Johnny Says:

    878.Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Coaches & players that need to go:
    1- Knapp
    2- Tarver
    3- Hoffman
    4- OL coach
    5- DL coach
    6- Seymour
    7- TK
    8- Lechler
    9- Brisiel
    10- Barnes
    11- CC
    12- DHB (if he doesn’t restructure)

    I would add Branch to that list.

    It is nauseating to see whiff after whiff after whiff from this guy.

  895. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    I noticed something very disturbing last night. I logged on and made a couple of comments. I came back later to post and I saw some very strange things.

    There was a one man sock puppet show. There are a few posters here that have several handles, commonly called cross posters.

    I remember when I joined the board in the jamarcus days, and one poster in particular was a bit of a nut case. he initially engaged me in decent topic driven raider debate, but after i cornered him on a few issues he quickly melted down and would go into profanity laced insults, and race baiting. her would throw anything out and then be upset if you had stats that could debunk his argument. His name was madden raider.

    Madden radier or mr, switched handles often, using gradjkowski raider and real madden raider to name a few of that time. He suddenly disappeared and reemerged as sullivan and so on. how do i know he did that, because he admitted to it on a few occasions.

    This guy would create handles, then create other handles to counter his original persona, or agree with his own position.

    I noticed last night that there are several posters that fit this m.o.. i realized that are a few relatively new posters that as soon as they appeared they quickly attacked me. never once trying to have a real dialogue. These new guys referenced things that i have posted, and situations that pre date the handles they are using by months or even years.

    Last night one of the cross posters slipped up and used exact phrasing in several post under different handles.

    raider e is macnugget 20, dr.rob is arayan, fangs, mr, sulli and so on.

    These cross posting trolls put on a show last night and dominated he boards starting at about 9;30 and went on for hours! they argues with themselves, agreed with themselves, threatened violence against themselves, and race baited them selves.

    Actually if it wasnt such bizarre weird behavior, i would think it quiet pathetic and even sad. T

    very norman bates like stuff…..these dudes are creepers

    *****************

    LOL! this silly kid has lost his marbles. hey mc20, it worked! we drove him completely nuts! hahhaha!

    he accuse me of being fangs/aryan and mr/sullivan! this is truly a day to remember, if only it mattered.

    look jackazz. i have routinely ridiculed fangs/aryan for the buffoon that he is.

    and sullivan is a raider hater who i used to battle but don’t care about anymore.

    on the other hand, i love the raiders. u say u noticed some sort of theme. well, u must not be very bright (we knew that) cuz sullivan is basically u! he comes on here and baits everyone by going after whatever angle he thinks will draw the most heat. and u know that i have recently accused YOU of being sullivan for that very reason. very sly sully. but the rope-a-dope doesn’t work with me dumbbell.

    go ahead and post ur “proof”. show me the similar “phrasings”. cmon chicken sh!t coward. u know u will run and hide against me.

    and no way is mc20 any of the above either. if anything u should accuse of being me, cuz we see eye to eye on most subjects, including, the raiders, beech, fangs, and u.

    and i’m not new. i’ve been here for 3 seasons. i was rob raider, now i’m dr robert.

  896. jesusraiderjim Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Beech is responsible for at least 10 other log in names.
    Thats a fact jack!!!!

    ————————————

    Is one of them Bill Murray?

  897. Raider O Says:

    Players that need to switch positions:
    1- Shaughnessy: he should be our LDE since he plays the run well.
    2- Houston: he needs to add that weight back and move inside.
    3- Huff: he should be used in a way that maximizes his production like GB with Woodson. FS/ CB, and he should cover athletic TEs like ge did early in his career.
    4- Wiz: he is a better G than C, and he should move to LG next season.

  898. DMAC Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    878.Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Coaches & players that need to go:
    1- Knapp
    2- Tarver
    3- Hoffman
    4- OL coach
    5- DL coach
    6- Seymour
    7- TK
    8- Lechler
    9- Brisiel
    10- Barnes
    11- CC
    12- DHB (if he doesn’t restructure)

    I would add Branch to that list.

    It is nauseating to see whiff after whiff after whiff from this guy.
    ============

    How the fk Mcjogger didn’t make the list and mind puzzling O dog

  899. Seymour Bush Says:

    BTW, Doc Rob, that was not me last night, but some tool posing as me. Hilarious really.

  900. DJ Johnny Says:

    892.The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    “I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. We remain commited to Coach Allen…as well as Coach Knapp and Coach Tarver.”
    ——-

    Wow, way to give us the Finger Reggie.

    That was just me writing what Reggie WILL say on Friday.

    Get ready for a full vote of confidence though in regard to DA, Knapp and Tarver.

  901. The_Judge37 Says:

    890.DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Yeah, thought Carson was going to be the 1st year Favre of the Vikings, ride Peterson (McFadden) and make a couple clutch throws when there is 8 guys in the box.
    —–

    Exactly how it should be. But no, let’s have our Gunslinging QB with questionable decision making make short, quick thinking throws to the 8 guys in the box

  902. DMAC Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Beech is responsible for at least 10 other log in names.
    Thats a fact jack!!!!

    ————————————

    Is one of them Bill Murray?
    ========

    Probably
    Just look at the way they write and express their selves.
    They usually say some of the same schit.

  903. The_Judge37 Says:

    Hilarious really.

    900.DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    892.The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    “I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. We remain commited to Coach Allen…as well as Coach Knapp and Coach Tarver.”
    ——-

    Wow, way to give us the Finger Reggie.

    That was just me writing what Reggie WILL say on Friday.

    Get ready for a full vote of confidence though in regard to DA, Knapp and Tarver.
    ——–

    Oh, LOL. Well way to give us the Finger guy

  904. DMAC Says:

    Brother from another mother….

    I agree w/ everything except #3
    Huffy is no Woodson brother!!!!!
    As a matter of fact, you need to
    Pass that schit vato!
    lol

  905. The_Judge37 Says:

    897.Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Players that need to switch positions:
    1- Shaughnessy: he should be our LDE since he plays the run well.
    2- Houston: he needs to add that weight back and move inside.
    3- Huff: he should be used in a way that maximizes his production like GB with Woodson. FS/ CB, and he should cover athletic TEs like ge did early in his career.
    4- Wiz: he is a better G than C, and he should move to LG next season.
    ——-

    I agree with everything except for Huff. He could cover TE’s because he was faster then they are, that’s it. I’m tired of him doing just enough each year to make u think he can get better. We’re on like 8-9 years now of waiting for him to break out? Cut him…With a razor

  906. dr_robert Says:

    and another thing missdick the supertard–

    let’s settle this pryor/palmer thing for good.

    most raider fans, including me, like pryor and are curious/excited at the prospect of seeing what he could do. i, personally, would love it if he turned out to be “space-age” as u so idiotically called it.

    and palmer is a good to very good qb. a talented passer with very quick field-scanning and recognition abilities. but yes, he can be reckless at times. but his supporting cast is very poor.

    if pryor gets time this year, ok. i don’t care. i just don’t think he will, cuz the nfl doesn’t work like that. but again, if he does cool by me.

    what u don’t get is that we couldn’t care less if one is black and the other is white. that’s your thing. pryor doesn’t “scare” us.

    what we don’t like about u is ur blatant racism. ur cinsistent droning about how bad palmer is is simply ridiculous. no nfl insider would do anything but laugh at u. and ur insipid support of all black qb’s, no matter how subpar, shows ur colors.

    ur a racist. period. u suck.

  907. DJ Johnny Says:

    903,

    Sorry judge. I just think that’s gonna be the basic gist of the presser.

    He’ll tell us everything is gonna be fine someday and that he’s committed to staying the course.

    I wish it were more than that, but I cna’t see him saying anything earth shattering that would give us REAL hope.

    Just blahblahblah more or less.

  908. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Hey DMAC, how do you feel now that Tedford is finally gone?

  909. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Players that need to switch positions:
    1- Shaughnessy: he should be our LDE since he plays the run well.
    2- Houston: he needs to add that weight back and move inside.
    3- Huff: he should be used in a way that maximizes his production like GB with Woodson. FS/ CB, and he should cover athletic TEs like ge did early in his career.
    4- Wiz: he is a better G than C, and he should move to LG next season.

    ************

    i agree with all of it.

  910. DutchRaider77 Says:

    903.The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    Hilarious really.

    900.DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    892.The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    “I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. We remain commited to Coach Allen…as well as Coach Knapp and Coach Tarver.”
    ——-

    Wow, way to give us the Finger Reggie.

    That was just me writing what Reggie WILL say on Friday.

    Get ready for a full vote of confidence though in regard to DA, Knapp and Tarver.
    ——–

    Oh, LOL. Well way to give us the Finger guy

    _________________________________________________________

    Or worse…“I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. But a new direction is needed, I am going to bring in someone I trust and who shares the same vision of the future I do…Raleigh McKenzie, the new HC of your Oakland Raiders.”

  911. DMAC Says:

    I would keep Huffy, ONLY if he is willing to restructure.
    If not, kick rocks!

  912. The_Judge37 Says:

    After years of trying to concieve a child with his wife, Rolando McClain decided to consult a fertility specialist. After a Battery of tests, the Doctor tells Rolando, “Well there’s nothing wrong with you physically, you just keep filling the wrong gap”

  913. DMAC Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Hey DMAC, how do you feel now that Tedford is finally gone?
    =========

    I’m feeling like Tony da Tiger. “Grrrrrreat!

    Now all they need to do is bring back Hue to da Bay and let him run the show.

  914. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    BTW, Doc Rob, that was not me last night, but some tool posing as me. Hilarious really.
    ************

    what was said that wasn’t u?

  915. Seymour Bush Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    and another thing missdick the supertard–

    let’s settle this pryor/palmer thing for good.

    most raider fans, including me, like pryor and are curious/excited at the prospect of seeing what he could do. i, personally, would love it if he turned out to be “space-age” as u so idiotically called it.

    and palmer is a good to very good qb. a talented passer with very quick field-scanning and recognition abilities. but yes, he can be reckless at times. but his supporting cast is very poor.
    ===========================================
    “Getting rocked on a three step drop? That sucks.”
    Andy Dalton QB of the Bungholes last Sunday, not talking about himself, but talking about Carson Palmer and the Raider offense.

  916. Raider O Says:

    Fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Isn’t McFadden under contract for 1 more yr?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It’s an option year, and I do think he is gone. Why would he stay?

  917. dr_robert Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    jesusraiderjim Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Beech is responsible for at least 10 other log in names.
    Thats a fact jack!!!!

    ————————————

    Is one of them Bill Murray?
    ========

    Probably
    Just look at the way they write and express their selves.
    They usually say some of the same schit.

    **************

    most of them comprise his so-called posse or whatever he calls it. they usually show up to defend him.

  918. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Sorry guys but Woodson got burned his fair share while a Raider also.

  919. Seymour Bush Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    what was said that wasn’t u?
    ===================================

    Everything. I checked out around 7pm last night and some tool was here til almost 11 using my name. Kind of funny really. She was arguing with Priest and making comments to you. I don’t overly care, but just a little fyi.

  920. The_Judge37 Says:

    916.Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Isn’t McFadden under contract for 1 more yr?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It’s an option year, and I do think he is gone. Why would he stay?
    ——–

    One more year at good money and rebound from a down year. No one will pay him after a year like this. Why wouldn’t he stay.

  921. dr_robert Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:50 am
    897.Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Players that need to switch positions:
    1- Shaughnessy: he should be our LDE since he plays the run well.
    2- Houston: he needs to add that weight back and move inside.
    3- Huff: he should be used in a way that maximizes his production like GB with Woodson. FS/ CB, and he should cover athletic TEs like ge did early in his career.
    4- Wiz: he is a better G than C, and he should move to LG next season.
    ——-

    I agree with everything except for Huff. He could cover TE’s because he was faster then they are, that’s it. I’m tired of him doing just enough each year to make u think he can get better. We’re on like 8-9 years now of waiting for him to break out? Cut him…With a razor

    *************

    ok, yeah, that i agree with instead.

  922. hwnrdr Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Isn’t McFadden under contract for 1 more yr?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It’s an option year, and I do think he is gone. Why would he stay?

    Because he made a committment to Al before his passing that he will the best darn injury prone running back that runs in the a**es of the O-Linemen the Raiders will ever have!

  923. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Darren McFadden doesnt have an option in his contract.

    He is a Raider next year. 5.8 million.

  924. Seymour Bush Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    jesusraiderjim Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Beech is responsible for at least 10 other log in names.
    Thats a fact jack!!!!

    ————————————

    Is one of them Bill Murray?
    ========

    Probably
    Just look at the way they write and express their selves.
    They usually say some of the same schit.

    **************

    most of them comprise his so-called posse or whatever he calls it. they usually show up to defend him.
    ======================================

    This is true. She is also the one that hijacked my name yesterday. I can tell because of things said over the years. I really wish you fellas would ignore that tool.

  925. DJ Johnny Says:

    910 Dutch Raider,

    That was hilarious.

  926. dvrick Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    I hope they ban idiots like me who get mad when someone doesn’t agree with them and start calling names.I hear DMAC is on the trading block….CABLE?

  927. Seymour Bush Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Darren McFadden doesnt have an option in his contract.

    He is a Raider next year. 5.8 million.
    =======================================

    And not worth it.

  928. DMAC Says:

    Beech is a computer wiz.
    Thats a fact jack!!!!

  929. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It’s an option year, and I do think he is gone. Why would he stay?

    *************************

    Why would we ask him stay?

    He fails us, time and time again.

  930. eastoaklandraider Says:

    All you guy that are high on Jarvis Jones the olb from Georgia, keep an eye on him Sat as he goes against the best oline in the nation in Ala. Will Jones be a factor in the game? or will he get mauled by that powerful line?

  931. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Darren McFadden doesnt have an option in his contract.

    He is a Raider next year. 5.8 million.
    =======================================

    And not worth it.

    —-

    In this current system, no.

  932. DMAC Says:

    Yeah DMAC is injury prone.
    We all know that but……
    Knappy snappy may of killed DMAC’s stay here w/ the Raiders. He is clearly not a zone runner.

    Knappy = the DMAC killer!

  933. dvrick Says:

    Mistic1 Tha STupidvillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    SEAHAWKS could easily be 9-2!! 3 last second losses.Glad they’re not the TAIDERS!!!!!

  934. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DMAC plays great in October, and is nowhere to be found in December. What does he have 3 career Dec TD’s? In 5 years?? LMAO

    That’s like the hot chick who gives you a quickie when you are tired on a Tuesday night, but then won’t even return your texts Friday and Saturday night.

    Tuesday quickies are nice and all, but drunk, all-night Friday sex is much better.

    Can McNinny

  935. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @The_Judge37

    Good one, a very funny McClain joke…

  936. edward teach Says:

    This might be old news, but apparently Jamaal Charles asked for (and got) Peyton Manning’s autograph after the Chiefs were beaten by the Broncos last Sunday.

    Want to know how bad things are in KC? An ESPN poll asking about it shows that 81% of the respondents from Missouri think it’s ok.

    Lol. Allen was roasted for SMILING with John Fox. At least the Nation still cares.

  937. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I think Reece/Goodson can be a very legit tandem in the ZBS.

    But DMC in a power scheme is elite.

  938. Seymour Bush Says:

    Darren McFadden doesnt have an option in his contract.

    He is a Raider next year. 5.8 million.
    =======================================

    And not worth it.

    —-

    In this current system, no.
    =======================================

    I would be surprised to see McFadden back here. He does not seem to be a fit for the org more than a fit for the system. McFadden seems to like everything about the NFL but actually playing in games.

  939. dvrick Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    Just heard on sportstalk the Seahawks are actively persueing a trade for DMAC!!!!!!!!!

  940. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Where does one get a good RB?

    The draft right?

    High or low pick?

    Can’t really get anything in FA? Tires are already too worn?

  941. dr_robert Says:

    oh Lord. dvrick is here. he’s like the local mentally retarded guy that slips into the party. he makes the same stupid “joke” several times before he finally leaves to go home. we just have to wait a little bit for him to go.

  942. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    If Knapp stays or another ZBS devotee is brought in to replace him, that’ll tell us all we need to know about McFadden’s future with the team. He won’t be here past draft day.

    If Reggie can find an Alfred Morris type in the 5th-7th round and save some $$$ to put toward the lines, that’d be fine by me.

  943. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Raiders have utilized DMC horribly his whole career outside of last year.

    Injuries happen, but we blew it with him.

  944. DMAC Says:

    I would be surprised to see McFadden back here. He does not seem to be a fit for the org more than a fit for the system. McFadden seems to like everything about the NFL but actually playing in games.
    ==========

    So how and the hell are you a Dick Seymour fan?
    Dude takes a vacation during the season every year.
    Plus he misses practices all the time to attend his karate tournaments.

  945. dvrick Says:

    Dr_Blobert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:04 am
    oh Lord. DMAC is here. he’s like the local mentally retarded guy that slips into the party. he makes the same stupid “joke” several times before he finally leaves to go home. we just have to wait a little bit for him to go.

  946. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMC will go somehwere else and be utilized right, once again making us look foolish.

  947. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    The Raiders have utilized DMC horribly his whole career outside of last year.

    Injuries happen, but we blew it with him.
    =======

    Amen

  948. Raider O Says:

    DMAC,

    McClain is another young talent that we couldn’t develop, but hw is still young enough to get another chance with a new staff.

  949. Seymour Bush Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Yeah DMAC is injury prone.
    We all know that but……
    Knappy snappy may of killed DMAC’s stay here w/ the Raiders. He is clearly not a zone runner.

    Knappy = the DMAC killer!
    ===========================================

    I completely disagree with this. ANY BACK, can be a zone back. Adrian Peterson can be a zone back. McFadden doesn’t go hard, doesn’t go hard, doesn’t go hard, then goes OUT for extended periods. I gave him Week One because SD was keying him like crazy. But in Week 2 when he wasn’t going hard, they took him out, threw a screen to Goodson who in ONE PLAY, went 70+ yards to the house, you knew at that moment, McFadden had to go. How McFadden has gone, is how the Raider offense has gone, and uh, our offense is gone….

  950. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    I think Reece/Goodson can be a very legit tandem in the ZBS.

    But DMC in a power scheme is elite.

    ***********

    i don’t think scheme is the issue. i think dmc is not the same.

  951. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @DennisAllensVisor

    Do you like the ZBS?

    Seems like we are always two O-Lineman away?

    Also, you cannot pick a dude off the street and plug them in? Too much of a learning curve and not enough avaiable talent?

  952. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Reggie & Dennis want the ZBS because its cheaper and easier to replace players. You dont need to use high picks or FA money on RBs or Olinemen…

    But its very hard to establish as an organization.

  953. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Get ready for a full vote of confidence though in regard to DA, Knapp and Tarver.

    ———————————-

    NO… NO… NO NO NO NO WAY. SAY IT AIN’T SO JOE.

  954. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    DMAC,

    McClain is another young talent that we couldn’t develop, but hw is still young enough to get another chance with a new staff.
    *************

    some guys can’t be developed. mcclain is one.

  955. The_Judge37 Says:

    935.DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    @The_Judge37

    Good one, a very funny McClain joke…
    ——-

    Thanks, I think it sums up his problem. He’s strong enough to be an MLB, just too dumb or too lazy to learn anything.

  956. DMAC Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    DMAC,

    McClain is another young talent that we couldn’t develop, but hw is still young enough to get another chance with a new staff.
    ========

    Put a fork in em’!!!
    Maybe leg transplants and a new heart are what is needed.
    He’s done.

    Burffict > Mcjogger
    Thats a fact jack!

  957. edward teach Says:

    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    I think Reece/Goodson can be a very legit tandem in the ZBS.

    But DMC in a power scheme is elite.

    ********************************************************

    DMac has elite speed and can flash spectacularly at times. Not the same as being an elite back.

    He’s injury-prone, lacks vision, is not especially nimble, and too often goes down on first contact.

    Too many red flags to consider him an elite back.

  958. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    @DennisAllensVisor

    Do you like the ZBS?

    Seems like we are always two O-Lineman away?

    Also, you cannot pick a dude off the street and plug them in? Too much of a learning curve and not enough avaiable talent?

    —-

    Hard not to like what Houston is doing.

  959. Seymour Bush Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    I would be surprised to see McFadden back here. He does not seem to be a fit for the org more than a fit for the system. McFadden seems to like everything about the NFL but actually playing in games.
    ==========

    So how and the hell are you a Dick Seymour fan?
    Dude takes a vacation during the season every year.
    Plus he misses practices all the time to attend his karate tournaments.
    ===============================================

    I can explain that: Richard Seymour is our HIGHEST GRADED PLAYER ON DEFENSE. He was last year, he is this year. He STILL leads the team in sacks, missing the last four games. He is NOT to lead the team in sacks, his job is to take up blockers and let OTHERS get sacks. As I have said, I don’t fall in love with players, I fall in love with production. How productive has McFadden been? I can tell you, not bad, he is flat out awful.

  960. dvrick Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    Report: Raiders Discussing Trading DMAC To Seahawks in Various Packages | Robert Littal Presents BlackSportsOnline Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:32 am
    [...] Contra Costa Times is reporting that head coach Dennis Allen is seriously thinking about different ways to trade Dmac to Seahawks [...]

  961. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    and another thing missdick the supertard–

    let’s settle this pryor/palmer thing for good.

    most raider fans, including me, like pryor and are curious/excited at the prospect of seeing what he could do. i, personally, would love it if he turned out to be “space-age” as u so idiotically called it.========

    meltdown city

    you are a cross posting race baiting troll

    suddenly fixated on or stalked me because i have looked deeper than yardage totals and criticized you hero palmer for his failings.

    Dont tell me you want pryor to succeed it is a lie, you have made several racist comments and even admitted it last night. You tried to cover your tracks saying it was a joke, but you have been exposed.

    You dont want pryor to supplant your hero palmer or even to challenge him in any way.

    You hate the idea of the changing face of the qb position and the wave of the future qb.

    find someone else to stalk loser

  962. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    edward teach Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    I think Reece/Goodson can be a very legit tandem in the ZBS.

    But DMC in a power scheme is elite.

    ********************************************************

    DMac has elite speed and can flash spectacularly at times. Not the same as being an elite back.

    He’s injury-prone, lacks vision, is not especially nimble, and too often goes down on first contact.

    Too many red flags to consider him an elite back.

    —-

    The first 6 games of last season would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

  963. Los Raida Locos Says:

    “I think our coaches have done a tremendous job amid all the change that has occured thus far. We remain commited to Coach Allen…as well as Coach Knapp and Coach Tarver.”

    ———————————

    We’re toast. Burnt toast to the next level.

  964. DMAC Says:

    McFadden doesn’t go hard, doesn’t go hard, doesn’t go hard, then goes OUT for extended periods.
    ==========

    Doesn’t go hard????
    What?
    Dude punishes DB’s.
    WTF are you talking about?

  965. The_Judge37 Says:

    Seymour should be playing the 3 technique since Kelly is doing absolutley nothing at that spot. Start Bryant, then bring in Rich at the 3 and move Kelly over to the NT.

  966. edward teach Says:

    962.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    edward teach Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    I think Reece/Goodson can be a very legit tandem in the ZBS.

    But DMC in a power scheme is elite.

    ********************************************************

    DMac has elite speed and can flash spectacularly at times. Not the same as being an elite back.

    He’s injury-prone, lacks vision, is not especially nimble, and too often goes down on first contact.

    Too many red flags to consider him an elite back.

    —-

    The first 6 games of last season would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    ********************************************************

    I will meet you there with the last ten.

  967. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    With the NFL possibly changing rules on blocking below the waist, idk how that affects the ZBS…

  968. DMAC Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    I would be surprised to see McFadden back here. He does not seem to be a fit for the org more than a fit for the system. McFadden seems to like everything about the NFL but actually playing in games.
    ==========

    So how and the hell are you a Dick Seymour fan?
    Dude takes a vacation during the season every year.
    Plus he misses practices all the time to attend his karate tournaments.
    ===============================================

    I can explain that: Richard Seymour is our HIGHEST GRADED PLAYER ON DEFENSE. He was last year, he is this year. He STILL leads the team in sacks, missing the last four games. He is NOT to lead the team in sacks, his job is to take up blockers and let OTHERS get sacks. As I have said, I don’t fall in love with players, I fall in love with production. How productive has McFadden been? I can tell you, not bad, he is flat out awful.
    ===========

    Seymour gives us production???
    Pass that schit!

  969. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    edward teach Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    962.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    edward teach Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    I think Reece/Goodson can be a very legit tandem in the ZBS.

    But DMC in a power scheme is elite.

    ********************************************************

    DMac has elite speed and can flash spectacularly at times. Not the same as being an elite back.

    He’s injury-prone, lacks vision, is not especially nimble, and too often goes down on first contact.

    Too many red flags to consider him an elite back.

    —-

    The first 6 games of last season would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    ********************************************************

    I will meet you there with the last ten.

    —-

    IDK if you have noticed but DMC doesnt like the ZBS…

    He might watch CBS, but doesnt like ZBS.

  970. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    and another thing missdick the supertard–

    let’s settle this pryor/palmer thing for good.

    most raider fans, including me, like pryor and are curious/excited at the prospect of seeing what he could do. i, personally, would love it if he turned out to be “space-age” as u so idiotically called it.========

    meltdown city

    you are a cross posting race baiting troll

    suddenly fixated on or stalked me because i have looked deeper than yardage totals and criticized you hero palmer for his failings.

    Dont tell me you want pryor to succeed it is a lie, you have made several racist comments and even admitted it last night. You tried to cover your tracks saying it was a joke, but you have been exposed.

    You dont want pryor to supplant your hero palmer or even to challenge him in any way.

    You hate the idea of the changing face of the qb position and the wave of the future qb.

    find someone else to stalk loser
    ***************

    hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

    i tell u one thing and u just won’t believe it. so, i guess u know more about what i think than i do. ur precious.

  971. DutchRaider77 Says:

    958.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    @DennisAllensVisor

    Do you like the ZBS?

    Seems like we are always two O-Lineman away?

    Also, you cannot pick a dude off the street and plug them in? Too much of a learning curve and not enough avaiable talent?

    —-

    Hard not to like what Houston is doing.

    _______________________________________________________

    True, but isn’t Green Bay a ZBS and they are not an elite running game. Heck, Aaron Rogers would be dead if they didn’t spread those receivers out.

  972. Reggiehater Says:

    891.Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    Cork sent me a personal email this morning and says even though he agrees with absolutly everything I say,I should tone it down just a small tad.He is trying to get me a press pass for Friday cause he has never heard such an intelligent Raider fan in his life.So get your popcorn ready for Friday cause I’m gonna turn that motha out.WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    FOSHO!

  973. dvrick Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    DMAC Just got traded to Seahawks for Robinson!!

  974. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    958.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    @DennisAllensVisor

    Do you like the ZBS?

    Seems like we are always two O-Lineman away?

    Also, you cannot pick a dude off the street and plug them in? Too much of a learning curve and not enough avaiable talent?

    —-

    Hard not to like what Houston is doing.

    _______________________________________________________

    True, but isn’t Green Bay a ZBS and they are not an elite running game. Heck, Aaron Rogers would be dead if they didn’t spread those receivers out.

    —-

    They won a ring without an elite running game.

    ZBS also has little to do with pass protection..

  975. Seymour Bush Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    So how and the hell are you a Dick Seymour fan?
    Dude takes a vacation during the season every year.
    Plus he misses practices all the time to attend his karate tournaments.
    ===================================================

    One last thing, the org gives players practice time and off time when they are DOING THEIR JOBS. That’s why Seymour gets time off. And not only do I agree with that, I think it is smart to reward your best players.

  976. DMAC Says:

    Texans knew what they were doing when they let Knappy and Brisiel walk.

  977. DMAC Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    So how and the hell are you a Dick Seymour fan?
    Dude takes a vacation during the season every year.
    Plus he misses practices all the time to attend his karate tournaments.
    ===================================================

    One last thing, the org gives players practice time and off time when they are DOING THEIR JOBS. That’s why Seymour gets time off. And not only do I agree with that, I think it is smart to reward your best players.
    ========

    LMAO
    ok

  978. Seymour Bush Says:

    dvrick Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    DMAC Just got traded to Seahawks for Robinson!!
    =========================================

    I would love it if we traded McFadden for a bag of Doritos.

  979. The_Judge37 Says:

    975

    I remember when Woodson wouldn’t practice all week then play every sunday.

  980. RaiderDuck Says:

    While Reggie will probably give DA a vote of confidence, I don’t expect him to do so with the assistants or specific players. He’ll probably (accurately) say that’s DA’s purview, not his.

  981. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    975

    I remember when Woodson wouldn’t practice all week then play every sunday.
    =========

    Yeah, but he was productive.
    Seymour productive????
    GTFOH
    Maybe 4-5 years ago

  982. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    Texans knew what they were doing when they let Knappy and Brisiel walk.

    —-

    Well Knapp was just a QB coach so no real big deal…

    And the ZBS policy is you dont pay big $ to OLinemen..

    Reggie was trying to cheat the system with that signing..

  983. RaiderDuck Says:

    Is Dvrick remotely aware that the training deadline was weeks ago?

  984. The_Judge37 Says:

    976.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    Texans knew what they were doing when they let Knappy and Brisiel walk.
    —————-

    Yup, Knapp sure does get a lot of credit for that Houston offense considering he was nothing more than a QB coach. If you look at Knapps resume, he hasn’t had one successful stint as an OC

  985. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:56 am
    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Fingers Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Isn’t McFadden under contract for 1 more yr?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It’s an option year, and I do think he is gone. Why would he stay?

    Because he made a committment to Al before his passing that he will the best darn injury prone running back that runs in the a**es of the O-Linemen the Raiders will ever have!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    Injury: you have a point
    Runs in the a$$es of OL: I blame the scheme.
    Still LOL

  986. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    976.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    Texans knew what they were doing when they let Knappy and Brisiel walk.
    —————-

    Yup, Knapp sure does get a lot of credit for that Houston offense considering he was nothing more than a QB coach. If you look at Knapps resume, he hasn’t had one successful stint as an OC
    ==========

    W/ the Whiners and I don’t think they were running a zone either.

  987. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Worth noting the defense went from “problematic” to “catastrophic” as soon as Seymour went down.

  988. The_Judge37 Says:

    The Whiners sucked those years he was there.

  989. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dvrick Says:

    [...] Contra Costa Times is reporting that head coach Dennis Allen is seriously thinking about different ways to trade Dmac to Seahawks [...]

    ————————————–

    Yeah right, because Dmac is such a GREAT zone blocking rusher. Seattle would be all over that one. LOL I call bullsh!t to the 20th degree.

  990. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    The Whiners sucked those years he was there.
    ===========

    Don’t feel like looking it up, but I’m sure that was his most successful season as an OC.

  991. edward teach Says:

    “DMac doesn’t like the ZBS” is the biggest bunch of hogwash I’ve ever heard.

    Someone just posted it, but it bears repeating; elite backs can run in any system. Period. Backs that lack patience and vision cannot.

    DMac is a straight ahead runner that does well when he has a hole opened up for him and can explode through the hole with the elite speed he has. He runs over DBs, big deal. NFL running backs are SUPPOSED to run over DBs.

    The great ones in the NBA can create their own shot. Same with the great running backs in the NFL. Too often he goes down on virtually incidental contact, and he doesn’t have the elusiveness that the elite ones have.

    DMac is a good back, granted. He’s not an elite back, for the reasons I posted earlier. Combine that with his demonstrated inability to stay healthy and you see why the current regime is unwilling to build an offense around him.

  992. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    The Whiners sucked those years he was there.
    ===========

    Don’t feel like looking it up, but I’m sure that was his most successful season as an OC.

    —-

    They made the playoffs ever year but 1…

    :)

  993. The_Judge37 Says:

    Technically, his most successful stint was one season with the Falcons when Mike Vick was running for his life. They were a top rushing team but it had everythig to do with a Prime Vick carrying all that dead weight. Then Lane brought Knapp and Cable over following that year.

  994. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Outside of maybe Hoffman, I dont want any coaching changes.

    Need stability and let these coaches get their type of players in.

  995. DMAC Says:

    Duece

    Dline and Oline coach has got to go 2.

  996. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    meltdown city

    ***************

    sounding like beech here. stupid minds think alike.

  997. The_Judge37 Says:

    994.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Outside of maybe Hoffman, I dont want any coaching changes.

    Need stability and let these coaches get their type of players in.
    ——-

    Good coaches adjust to get the best out of their players. I’d rather Knapp change his style than McFadden Change his.

  998. dr_robert Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Is Dvrick remotely aware that the training deadline was weeks ago?
    ***********

    shhhh.

  999. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:22 am
    The Whiners sucked those years he was there.

    +++++++

    3rd, 14th and 9th rank offenses in the league the years Knapp was there.

    12-4, 10-6, 7-9 records.

    Can’t really blame Knapp.

  1000. DMAC Says:

    When the Cable guy has to take over the play calling duties during the season.
    Than your clearly not cut out to be a an OC in the NFL.
    Period!!
    WTF was DA thinking?

  1001. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    dvrick Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    DMAC Just got traded to Seahawks for Robinson!!
    =========================================

    I would love it if we traded McFadden for a bag of Doritos.

    ****************

    now dvrick will come on here and change it to:

    I would love it if we traded McFadden for a bag of Cheetos.

    and he’ll think it’s a burn.

  1002. The_Judge37 Says:

    CP3 and DMC are bad fits for Knapp. HE wasn’t even using Marcel Reese until he had no choice to. Why keep a guy and force productive players who are locked in contracts to adapt rather than an extremley replacable coach?

  1003. eastoaklandraider Says:

    guess nobody cares about the match up of OLB Jarvis Jones against that Bama Oline, IMO its a statement game for him and will impact his draft status.

  1004. The_Judge37 Says:

    999.SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:22 am
    The Whiners sucked those years he was there.

    +++++++

    3rd, 14th and 9th rank offenses in the league the years Knapp was there.

    12-4, 10-6, 7-9 records.

    Can’t really blame Knapp.
    ——-

    Well, they did get worse the longer he was there.

  1005. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    994.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Outside of maybe Hoffman, I dont want any coaching changes.

    Need stability and let these coaches get their type of players in.
    ——-

    Good coaches adjust to get the best out of their players. I’d rather Knapp change his style than McFadden Change his.
    =========

    If Hue can do it, why not Knappy?
    Because he sucks.

  1006. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    When the Cable guy has to take over the play calling duties during the season.
    Than your clearly not cut out to be a an OC in the NFL.

    ++++++++

    Also possible Tom Cable thought he knew more than he did.

    Raiders finished 29th in offense that year. Cable didn’t exactly raise it to meteoric heights.

  1007. DMAC Says:

    3rd, 14th and 9th rank offenses in the league the years Knapp was there.
    =======

    Thanx for looking it up fellas

  1008. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    ——-

    Well, they did get worse the longer he was there

    +++++++

    His offense was pretty good though the year they finished under .500. That’s more Dennis Erickson being a disaster of a head coach than anything Knapp did.

    Know who was an offensive quality control assistant on that staff? Jason Tarver.

  1009. DMAC Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    When the Cable guy has to take over the play calling duties during the season.
    Than your clearly not cut out to be a an OC in the NFL.

    ++++++++

    Also possible Tom Cable thought he knew more than he did.

    Raiders finished 29th in offense that year. Cable didn’t exactly raise it to meteoric heights.
    ========

    Were you watching the games?
    We probably would of been dead last w/ Kanppy.

  1010. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    OLINE & Pass rush, all this other talk is meaningless without these.

  1011. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I’m starting to believe there is some logic behind Fred’s “Ten and Then” philosophy. This team wont be elite for some time…

    when you have a top down problem, meaning the top of the hierarchy is the one messing everything below there is no fast solution to the problem.

    This roster is devoid of talent. Gotta blame both Al and Reggie for that.

  1012. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Dont tell me you want pryor to succeed it is a lie, you have made several racist comments and even admitted it last night. You tried to cover your tracks saying it was a joke, but you have been exposed.

    You dont want pryor to supplant your hero palmer or even to challenge him in any way.

    You hate the idea of the changing face of the qb position and the wave of the future qb.
    *******************

    LOL! i don’t want pryor to succeed, even if i say i do, and i’ve always said that>

    i don’t want him to challenge palmer in any way? can u post a remark that remotely points to that?

    the changing “face” of of the qb position. what face would that be missdick?

    i suppose ur saying i hate black qb’s. post one thing i’ve said to support that. not what u think, dummy. what i said.

    ur just such a joke.

  1013. The_Judge37 Says:

    3rd, 14th and 9th rank offenses in the league the years Knapp was there.
    =======

    I’m also fairly certain Steve Mariuchi had something to do with those offensive ranks. Kinda like how John Fox made Dennis Allen look like a defensive guru when they were bailing out Tim Tebow last year.

  1014. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    OLINE & Pass rush, all this other talk is meaningless without these.

    +++++++

    Agreed. Start in the trenches and move outward.

    Keep Veldheer, move Wiz back to guard and you can drop the rest of the o-line in the ocean for all I care.

    Same thing on the defensive line, except save Lamarr Houston.

  1015. Raider O Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    The Whiners sucked those years he was there.
    ===========

    Don’t feel like looking it up, but I’m sure that was his most successful season as an OC.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    He had 2 good seasons in SF (offense was top 10 in scoring), and the rest of his career is avg at best.
    -2 years in SF were good, but his 3rd was average.
    -knapp: 10th year as OC, 2 good years in the beginning of his career with SF, he was avg (at best) in ATL, and his offenses struggled to scored (20s/32 in scoring) the last 4 years of his career as OC ( with 4 different teams).

    He is who we thought he was, and we hired him! Slap some wood.

  1016. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    OLINE & Pass rush, all this other talk is meaningless without these.

    +++++++

    Agreed. Start in the trenches and move outward.

    Keep Veldheer, move Wiz back to guard and you can drop the rest of the o-line in the ocean for all I care.

    Same thing on the defensive line, except save Lamarr Houston.

    —-

    And Dez Bryant.

  1017. fingers Says:

    The judge.. Yep… Some of Allen’s decisions on who he plays and who he doesn’t have been puzzling …

  1018. DMAC Says:

    1014

    I would keep Houston and Bryant on the d-line
    Thats it

  1019. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    3rd, 14th and 9th rank offenses in the league the years Knapp was there.
    =======

    I’m also fairly certain Steve Mariuchi had something to do with those offensive ranks

    +++++++++++

    That year they finished 9th in offense, Dennis Erickson was head coach.

  1020. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @DennisAllensVisor
    FF Question?

    Would you go with Cecil Shorts (Buffalo) or D. Moore this week?

  1021. fingers Says:

    Agree…. Fix both Lines….

  1022. dr_robert Says:

    guys–pretty sure missdick is sullivan. his M.O. has always been to take anything anyone threw out there that could be used against his enemies and repeat it ad nauseum, hoping it would cause misdirection. he is a slippery little weasel.

  1023. DMAC Says:

    Both our lines went from decent to horrible.
    Its called bad coaching people!

  1024. eastoaklandraider Says:

    According to most mock drafts thus far Bama will have 2 Olinemen go in the first round, IMO we should trade down and nab Barret Jones. If we cant trade down select the DE from A&M, He led the SEC in sacks and that is quite an accomplishment in the SEC. I would stay away from the DE from FSU.

  1025. The_Judge37 Says:

    Know who was an offensive quality control assistant on that staff? Jason Tarver.

    ———-

    Reggie and Allen must’ve grown up on farms, only explination to continue to recyle manuer with the postive expectations.

  1026. edward teach Says:

    1003.eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:31 am
    guess nobody cares about the match up of OLB Jarvis Jones against that Bama Oline, IMO its a statement game for him and will impact his draft status.

    ********************************************************

    Should be a good matchup. Bama’s linemen are maulers and it will be interesting to see how they deal with Jones’ speed and quickness. Georgia has other guys that can get after the passer too, so don’t know if they overload to stop Jones or not.

    I do wish they’d play the SEC championship game on grass, though. They play old-school football down there and it looks out of place to me when they play in a dome.

  1027. DMAC Says:

    I need Huey back in the bay as the Cal Bears HC.
    Who’s got his email or #?
    I’ll convince him.
    lol

  1028. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    @DennisAllensVisor
    FF Question?

    Would you go with Cecil Shorts (Buffalo) or D. Moore this week?

    —-

    Hmm..

    I trust Palmer more than Henne.

    But the Browns D is better than the Bills..

    I’d go Moore.. He scored even with Palmer struggling last week vs a smiliar D..

  1029. Seymour Bush Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    975

    I remember when Woodson wouldn’t practice all week then play every sunday.
    =========

    Yeah, but he was productive.
    Seymour productive????
    GTFOH
    Maybe 4-5 years ago
    ========================================

    See this is exactly what I talk about all the time. You guys fall in love with non productive players and fall in hate with productive ones. If you want a scouting report on Seymour, Don’t ask me, ask Mike McCoy or Ben Rothleisberger. They’ll tell you. But you like McFadden. McFadden has averaged 600 yards a YEAR since he has been here. It’s not that that is not very good, it’s bad. And if THAT is not enough, he fumbles every 49 carries. THAT IS TERRIBLE. Do you realize that Benjarvis Green-Ellis the guy who ran all over us last week hasn’t coughed it up since high school?

  1030. The_Judge37 Says:

    I don’t follow NCAA sports, but anyone know how George Atkinson’s sons are doing at Notre Dame?

  1031. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Both our lines went from decent to horrible.
    Its called bad coaching people!

    —-

    Its called bad personnel fits..

    Shoving triangles into circles..

  1032. Seymour Bush Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    @DennisAllensVisor
    FF Question?

    Would you go with Cecil Shorts (Buffalo) or D. Moore this week?

    —-

    Hmm..

    I trust Palmer more than Henne.

    But the Browns D is better than the Bills..

    I’d go Moore.. He scored even with Palmer struggling last week vs a smiliar D..
    ==========================================

    Moore is another player who “not very good” would not be an apt description. Terrible would be an apt description.

  1033. Seymour Bush Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Both our lines went from decent to horrible.
    Its called bad coaching people!
    =====================================

    Or maybe it is losing our best interior lineman to Indy.

  1034. Raider O Says:

    Needs:
    DE
    CB
    DT/NT
    OL (C, RG, and RT. Wiz moves back to LG)
    RB
    LB

    We Don’t NEED WRs and Ss, but I like to upgrade these positions.

  1035. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “and another thing missdick the supertard–

    let’s settle this pryor/palmer thing for good.

    most raider fans, including me, like pryor and are curious/excited at the prospect of seeing what he could do. i, personally, would love it if he turned out to be “space-age” as u so idiotically called it.

    and palmer is a good to very good qb. a talented passer with very quick field-scanning and recognition abilities. but yes, he can be reckless at times. but his supporting cast is very poor.

    if pryor gets time this year, ok. i don’t care. i just don’t think he will, cuz the nfl doesn’t work like that. but again, if he does cool by me.

    what u don’t get is that we couldn’t care less if one is black and the other is white. that’s your thing. pryor doesn’t “scare” us.

    what we don’t like about u is ur blatant racism. ur cinsistent droning about how bad palmer is is simply ridiculous. no nfl insider would do anything but laugh at u. and ur insipid support of all black qb’s, no matter how subpar, shows ur colors.

    ur a racist. period. u suck.”

    I agree 100%

  1036. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    NEEDS:

    Olineman
    Pass Rush

    —-

    Fixed.

    Cut & Print.

  1037. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    OLINE & Pass rush, all this other talk is meaningless without these.

    +++++++

    Agreed. Start in the trenches and move outward.
    ————————

    I stated this a few days ago and was met with stiff resistance from JFB, and Alex7. Their argument was that teams such as the Packers, Steelers and, Bears were making the playoffs with below avg Olines and that teams like Mia,Cle, who drafted franchise LT recently are going nowhere. They believe that drafting skill players over olinemen is the way to go. IMO that is some of the dumbest logic I’ve ever heard.

  1038. The_Judge37 Says:

    Offensive Line is our biggest priorty as far as personell. Draft a good RT and allow Veldheer, Wiz and the High Pick to grow together as a unit. Then add young playmakers to the D-Line and CB’s.

  1039. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Offensive Line is our biggest priorty as far as personell. Draft a good RT and allow Veldheer, Wiz and the High Pick to grow together as a unit. Then add young playmakers to the D-Line and CB’s.

    —-

    D-Lineman make the CBs..

  1040. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Both our lines went from decent to horrible.
    Its called bad coaching people!

    —-

    Its called bad personnel fits..

    Shoving triangles into circles..
    ======
    Personnel fits?
    By whom??
    Coaching staff
    Thats who

  1041. fingers Says:

    Palmers getting no help from the Wr’s … No protection from the Oline … A not very good Run game…. A special teams that gives it right back when the offense scores and a defense that couldn’t stop the girlscouts ….

  1042. The_Judge37 Says:

    1039.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Offensive Line is our biggest priorty as far as personell. Draft a good RT and allow Veldheer, Wiz and the High Pick to grow together as a unit. Then add young playmakers to the D-Line and CB’s.

    —-

    D-Lineman make the CBs..

    —–

    Yeah, but good O-Line makes the Team.

  1043. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1003.eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:31 am
    guess nobody cares about the match up of OLB Jarvis Jones against that Bama Oline, IMO its a statement game for him and will impact his draft status.

    ********************************************************

    Should be a good matchup. Bama’s linemen are maulers and it will be interesting to see how they deal with Jones’ speed and quickness. Georgia has other guys that can get after the passer too, so don’t know if they overload to stop Jones or not.

    I do wish they’d play the SEC championship game on grass, though. They play old-school football down there and it looks out of place to me when they play in a dome.
    ——————

    I just brought it up because some posters here want to draft JJones.

  1044. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Both our lines went from decent to horrible.
    Its called bad coaching people!

    —-

    Its called bad personnel fits..

    Shoving triangles into circles..
    ======
    Personnel fits?
    By whom??
    Coaching staff
    Thats who

    —-

    This isnt Madden, you cant cut everyone and sign new players.

    They inherited roster that didnt fit what they want to do.

    There is a long term plan in place.

    If people cant see this then I suggest not watching for a couple years…

  1045. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:51 am
    1039.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Offensive Line is our biggest priorty as far as personell. Draft a good RT and allow Veldheer, Wiz and the High Pick to grow together as a unit. Then add young playmakers to the D-Line and CB’s.

    —-

    D-Lineman make the CBs..

    —–

    Yeah, but good O-Line makes the Team.

    —-

    For sure, I was saying that meaning we dont really need to draft CBs..

  1046. fingers Says:

    Both lines are pitiful… Neither line is getting the job done…I think it’s coaching for the Olines horrible play and the DLine lacks talent… Seymour’s just over the hill… His knees are shot

  1047. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Both our lines went from decent to horrible.
    Its called bad coaching people!

    —-

    Its called bad personnel fits..

    Shoving triangles into circles..
    ======
    Personnel fits?
    By whom??
    Coaching staff
    Thats who

    —-

    This isnt Madden, you cant cut everyone and sign new players.

    They inherited roster that didnt fit what they want to do.

    There is a long term plan in place.

    If people cant see this then I suggest not watching for a couple years…
    ========

    I clearly understand that, but we’ve REGRESSED!!!
    We have no identity!

  1048. bcz24 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    @DennisAllensVisor
    FF Question?

    Would you go with Cecil Shorts (Buffalo) or D. Moore this week?
    *************
    100% Cecil Shorts. He was averaging 20 ff points per week (in ppr leagues) with Gabbert. He will out score Moore.

  1049. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Oline is priority #1 we must be able to protect Palmer as we were able to protect Gannon, also we must get our running game back in order. Early rounds Draft oline later rounds Draft D.

  1050. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Reggie took over a organization in cap hell with no draft picks.

    The team wasnt good for a decade.

    I dont understand how so many fans cant grasp this.

  1051. DMAC Says:

    Tell me one good thing this coaching staff has done this season, besides turning Taiwan Jones as an excellent special teamer?

  1052. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Oline is priority #1 we must be able to protect Palmer as we were able to protect Gannon, also we must get our running game back in order. Early rounds Draft oline later rounds Draft D.

    —-

    If we keep the ZBS, you wont see any OL drafted very early..

  1053. Plunketthead Says:

    I clearly understand that, but we’ve REGRESSED!!!
    We have no identity!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Please tell me you are joking

  1054. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    regression!!!!

  1055. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    Tell me one good thing this coaching staff has done this season, besides turning Taiwan Jones as an excellent special teamer?

    —-

    Brother.

    Its not about this season. Never was.

  1056. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    An organization was gutted from top to bottom and has regressed.

    SHOCKER!!

  1057. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Reggie took over a organization in cap hell with no draft picks.

    The team wasnt good for a decade.

    I dont understand how so many fans cant grasp this.
    ==========

    I grasp it aight
    I’m tired of the BS play of our Raiders!!!
    Its tough when your team is garbage and the other team across the bay is ballin’
    You don’t hear all schit that us Oaklander’s hear.
    I want a winning product. I spend my hard earn $$$ to see these clowns play every home game.
    Its very frustrating, but I’m a Raider till’ I die.
    Hopefully this schit gets turned around in a few years.

  1058. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    can you imagine the plays gruden has come up with since he last coached?

  1059. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    Tell me one good thing this coaching staff has done this season, besides turning Taiwan Jones as an excellent special teamer?

    —-

    Brother.

    Its not about this season. Never was.
    ==========

    Brother
    You build off every single season.
    Name me one good thing?

  1060. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Reggie took over a organization in cap hell with no draft picks.

    The team wasnt good for a decade.

    I dont understand how so many fans cant grasp this.
    ==========

    I grasp it aight
    I’m tired of the BS play of our Raiders!!!
    Its tough when your team is garbage and the other team across the bay is ballin’
    You don’t hear all schit that us Oaklander’s hear.
    I want a winning product. I spend my hard earn $$$ to see these clowns play every home game.
    Its very frustrating, but I’m a Raider till’ I die.
    Hopefully this schit gets turned around in a few years.

    —-

    Totally understand.

    Im surrounded by Niner fans.

    I dont understand why everyone thinks I dont live in California LOL.. Just cuz im a Magic fan…

  1061. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    Tell me one good thing this coaching staff has done this season, besides turning Taiwan Jones as an excellent special teamer?

    —-

    Brother.

    Its not about this season. Never was.
    ==========

    Brother
    You build off every single season.
    Name me one good thing?

    —-

    We have a current age structure. With a long term vision that doesnt mortgage our future for 8 win seasons.

    Thats very good.

  1062. bcz24 Says:

    1056.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    An organization was gutted from top to bottom and has regressed.

    SHOCKER!!
    *******************
    We were essentially an expansion team this year that just happened to start of 40 million over the cap with no draft picks.

  1063. DMAC Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    I clearly understand that, but we’ve REGRESSED!!!
    We have no identity!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Please tell me you are joking
    =======

    Regression = the act of going back to a previous place or state; return or reversion.

  1064. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Oline is priority #1 we must be able to protect Palmer as we were able to protect Gannon, also we must get our running game back in order. Early rounds Draft oline later rounds Draft D.

    —-

    If we keep the ZBS, you wont see any OL drafted very early..
    ——————–

    Trade down and draft Barret Jones a very versatile olinemen from ALA.

  1065. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    1056.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    An organization was gutted from top to bottom and has regressed.

    SHOCKER!!
    *******************
    We were essentially an expansion team this year that just happened to start of 40 million over the cap with no draft picks.

    —-

    Exactly.

  1066. DMAC Says:

    Stop the BS!

    So you all knew we would be 3-8 right now, after last season?
    GTFOH

  1067. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    NEEDS:

    ********
    beers and bong hits !!

  1068. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Oline is priority #1 we must be able to protect Palmer as we were able to protect Gannon, also we must get our running game back in order. Early rounds Draft oline later rounds Draft D.

    —-

    If we keep the ZBS, you wont see any OL drafted very early..
    ——————–

    Trade down and draft Barret Jones a very versatile olinemen from ALA.

    —-

    Id like to trade down for more picks..

    But as far as who.. You trust your scouting and draft the best player when its your turn.

  1069. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We must have been the best 8-8 team ever last year… LOL.

    WE WERENT THAT GOOD!!..

    I said it over and over during the season last year, WE ARENT THAT GOOD..

  1070. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We either barely won or got blown out… We could have easily been 3-13 last year. Easy.

  1071. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    We must have been the best 8-8 team ever last year… LOL.

    WE WERENT THAT GOOD!!..

    I said it over and over during the season last year, WE ARENT THAT GOOD..
    ===========

    I understand that, but you still didn’t answer my question?
    What has the coaching staff done positive this season?(besides cutting down a few penalties)

  1072. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Oline is priority #1 we must be able to protect Palmer as we were able to protect Gannon, also we must get our running game back in order. Early rounds Draft oline later rounds Draft D.

    —-

    If we keep the ZBS, you wont see any OL drafted very early..
    ——————–

    Trade down and draft Barret Jones a very versatile olinemen from ALA.

    —-

    Id like to trade down for more picks..

    But as far as who.. You trust your scouting and draft the best player when its your turn.
    ————————-

    Save the company lines “trust your scouting blah blah blah” we have glaring need on the oline and from what I have seen Barret Jones would help this team the most, however the Center from Georgia is rated higher than jones.

  1073. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    funny how the only the person with the opinion that matters thinks its regression as well….

  1074. DMAC Says:

    Point differentials don’t mean a damn thang mayne.
    A win is a win
    A lost is a lost

  1075. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    funny how the only the person with the opinion that matters thinks its regression as well….

    —-

    Is anyone denying regression?..

  1076. DMAC Says:

    You think the Falcons are like……..

    “Damn, we’re not that good, because we barely keep winning.”

  1077. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    We either barely won or got blown out… We could have easily been 3-13 last year. Easy.
    ———–

    NO, we easily should have been 12-4. Buff,Den,Det,SD, all games blown by the D in the final moments. Offense wasnt that big an issue last year now it has become one. COACHING.

  1078. Seymour Bush Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    1056.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    An organization was gutted from top to bottom and has regressed.

    SHOCKER!!
    *******************
    We were essentially an expansion team this year that just happened to start of 40 million over the cap with no draft picks.

    —-

    Exactly.
    ==========================================

    Well said. Except expansion teams can pick players off other teams rosters and get the overall number one draft pick. We’re like an expansion team that has to eat out of a dumpster.

  1079. bcz24 Says:

    1066.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Stop the BS!

    So you all knew we would be 3-8 right now, after last season?
    GTFOH
    ***********
    Yup. Go back to August. I predicted 6-10

  1080. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    nor are they making excuses for it….its unacceptable-per mark davis

  1081. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    6-10 isnot 3-8….

  1082. bcz24 Says:

    1074.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Point differentials don’t mean a damn thang mayne.
    A win is a win
    A lost is a lost
    ***********
    Really? Then why is everyone in here about to commit suicide after our 4th blowout loss in a row?

  1083. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    1074.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Point differentials don’t mean a damn thang mayne.
    A win is a win
    A lost is a lost
    ***********
    Really? Then why is everyone in here about to commit suicide after our 4th blowout loss in a row?
    —————

    Why was everyone ready to declare us a playoff team after we beat the Jags and KC?

  1084. DMAC Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    1074.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Point differentials don’t mean a damn thang mayne.
    A win is a win
    A lost is a lost
    ***********
    Really? Then why is everyone in here about to commit suicide after our 4th blowout loss in a row?
    ========

    Not me
    I’m tired of the losing period.
    You lose 1
    or lose by 30
    its still a loss

  1085. DMAC Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    1066.DMAC Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Stop the BS!

    So you all knew we would be 3-8 right now, after last season?
    GTFOH
    ***********
    Yup. Go back to August. I predicted 6-10
    ========

    I didn’t say 6-10
    I said 3-8 right now

  1086. DMAC Says:

    So Sherman and Browner failed a PED’s test.

    How and fk do Gholston and Whitner keep passing theirs???????????

  1087. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    jason babin just got cut….upgrade over tollefson.

  1088. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    ef it bring in merriman juice him up and let him play a few weeks for us…

  1089. DMAC Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    jason babin just got cut….upgrade over tollefson.
    ==========

    If I were the Eagles, Nnamdi would be next

  1090. eastoaklandraider Says:

    You lose 1
    or lose by 30
    its still a loss
    —————

    This is true yet untrue, you lose by 1 most games at least your team is competitive and fans recognize that like our 8-8 seasons under Chucky, you start losing by 30 game after game fans nor ownership will tolerate that very long thus DA being on the “HOT SEAT” which I dont think he is because RM is committed to him.

  1091. DMAC Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    ef it bring in merriman juice him up and let him play a few weeks for us…
    ======

    He needs to holla at dem’ safties across the water

  1092. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    bring him back as well…done with this bunt toast bartell and slowilio hanson

  1093. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    maybe reggie is on the hot seat as well?

  1094. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Concepts & Logic.

    2 things sorely missed in here.

  1095. DMAC Says:

    You have your view and I have mine.
    Agree to dissagree.
    Yeah, I know Reggie and DA want to build their system and its going to take time, but the schit we’re seeing every week is pitiful!

  1096. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    You lose 1
    or lose by 30
    its still a loss
    —————

    This is true yet untrue, you lose by 1 most games at least your team is competitive and fans recognize that like our 8-8 seasons under Chucky, you start losing by 30 game after game fans nor ownership will tolerate that very long thus DA being on the “HOT SEAT” which I dont think he is because RM is committed to him.
    ============================================

    Well, when you see Benjarvis Green-Ellis run right past #55 for 48 yards on the 3rd play of the game, or Colston run right past Mike Mitchell with 50 seconds to go in the half for a score in a game we are in, it is REALLY hard to blame the coaching staff.

  1097. bcz24 Says:

    1081.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    6-10 isnot 3-8….
    ********
    Really… Well considering that 3 of the 6 wins I predicted were in games we have yet to play, I’d say I am right on the money.

  1098. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    keep saying that…they wont win another game.

  1099. DMAC Says:

    I gotta run peoples!
    Its been fun chopping it up w/ yall.
    Shout out to the Green Party!

  1100. bcz24 Says:

    1088.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    ef it bring in merriman juice him up and let him play a few weeks for us…
    **********
    He resigned with Buffalo a few weeks ago.

  1101. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    he ran by burriss too..,,hanson was reaching as well….where was wheeler?

  1102. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    maybe he can get better juice in the bay…

  1103. bcz24 Says:

    Damn, we could claim Babin for 1.6 mill, not too bad if he improves our line, plus his contract is only about 4 mill next year. Very manageble.

  1104. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423489-have-patience-raiders-fans-it-will-take-time-to-get-over-palmer-hue-jackson

  1105. Marks hair Says:

    Branch is horrible he is not a natural safety or defender in general

  1106. Marks hair Says:

    Patience my àss

  1107. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    funny how the only the person with the opinion that matters thinks its regression as well….

    —-

    Is anyone denying regression?..

    ***********

    racist!

  1108. Marks hair Says:

    Did you monkeys learn nothing new from cork as usual?

  1109. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423489-have-patience-raiders-fans-it-will-take-time-to-get-over-palmer-hue-jackson

    ************

    u read bleacher report? the mag that has readers write their stories? the writing there is like an 8th grader. u probably could write for them.

    ur fun.

  1110. Marks hair Says:

    Lets all go ask the guy blowing smoke up our àsses whats next for the raiders..

  1111. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    cork is hilarious still trying to sell the notion that palmer has validated the trade?!?!?!

    even in the face of a 7-14 record and 35 putrid turnovers?!?!/1

    that is worth a 1st and a second and a ton of cash?!?!?

    Lol media beat writers are quick to seize on perceived folly of al davis, yet they wont admit their own mistakes.

    cork…….EXPOSED!

  1112. dr_robert Says:

    that’s ur support? ur like a little toy. a broken racist toy.

  1113. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Next up Trent Richardson, that guy is a beast and trust me I’ve seen my share of him down here in Ala, if we key on him we SHOULD be able to beat CLE easily, but the way our D has performed against the run lately im not very confident we may see another rookie record as Trent is a lot harder to bring down than Martin.

  1114. inonewordraider Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423489-have-patience-raiders-fans-it-will-take-time-to-get-over-palmer-hue-jackson
    _________________
    well if the guy who wrote the article says it then it must be true

  1115. morilla Says:

    People who blame the QB for the woes of this team have a low football IQ. Or just a low IQ in general.

  1116. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    cork is hilarious still trying to sell the notion that palmer has validated the trade?!?!?!

    even in the face of a 7-14 record and 35 putrid turnovers?!?!/1

    that is worth a 1st and a second and a ton of cash?!?!?

    Lol media beat writers are quick to seize on perceived folly of al davis, yet they wont admit their own mistakes.

    cork…….EXPOSED!

    ***************

    missdick the superdork thinks he invented a catch phrase. exposed!

    except he exposes himself as an idiot every time he uses it.

    hey missdick–how about cam newton’s ridiculously bad record and turnovers this season? palmer beats him in virtually every stat. i bet u have an excuse for cam huh?

  1117. Marks hair Says:

    Shaugnessys a superstar and our bitter rivals sd wont come to play the last game of the yr?????? Your so wise cork..

  1118. KoolKell Says:

    Cork is still giving the coaches a free pass. I guess since they’re so clean cut.

  1119. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.================================================

    Cam #3 most time to throw. Palmer #28 time to throw. Would that be related to pass protection? Or does Miss Tick just make up whatever hoping not to get her a$$ called on the BS?
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

  1120. dr_robert Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423489-have-patience-raiders-fans-it-will-take-time-to-get-over-palmer-hue-jackson
    _________________
    well if the guy who wrote the article says it then it must be true

    **************

    LOL! have u ever read the bleacher report? a couple years ago, i started to read some articles, and i quickly started thinking “something is wrong here. this sounds like a fanzine”. the stuff is complete tripe. like fans writing as a hobby.

    this blog could pass as better writing.

  1121. Seymour Bush Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Damn, we could claim Babin for 1.6 mill, not too bad if he improves our line, plus his contract is only about 4 mill next year. Very manageble.
    =======================================

    Babin has been productive the last two years. I wonder what happened over there? Might be time to grab him.

  1122. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    dr_robert Says: i bet u have an excuse for cam huh?==

    He tried, but he lied. See above.

  1123. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Cork is still giving the coaches a free pass. I guess since they’re so clean cut.
    ==========================================

    See #1096

  1124. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Cork is still giving the coaches a free pass. I guess since they’re so clean cut.
    ***********

    no dummy. some people think reggie will give them time to work it out. nobody thinks the raiders have been doing well in any category. except our golden haired hero. who we are afraid to have any competition from a black man. right?

  1125. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.================================================

    Cam #3 most time to throw. Palmer #28 time to throw. Would that be related to pass protection? Or does Miss Tick just make up whatever hoping not to get her a$$ called on the BS?
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/
    ===========

    newton is mobile beyond belief if he didnt have that gift the panthers would lead the nfl in sacks given up.

    What does cam have to do with palmer though?

    another cross poster

  1126. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I dont care how bad the Raiders are.. No way they will lose to the Browns at home.

    Easy fools good win for the Raiders this week.

  1127. nycraider Says:

    claim Babin reggie, this is an easy one

  1128. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.
    =================================

    No it isn’t. See #915

  1129. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    who we are afraid to have any competition from a black man. right?
    ———————–
    Speak for yourself, Brien. aka Dumb btch.

  1130. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.

    **********

    LOL! who could have predicted he would:

    1) have an excuse
    2) lie thru his teeth about something

    he thinks the panthers pass protection is far better. this guy pretends he watches every game and he thinks our pass protection is better than someone’s? is that possible? wouldn’t that require defenders jumping offside thru the o-line before the snap? it’s the only way they could apply quicker pressure.

  1131. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.================================================

    Cam #3 most time to throw. Palmer #28 time to throw. Would that be related to pass protection? Or does Miss Tick just make up whatever hoping not to get her a$$ called on the BS?
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/
    ===========

    newton is mobile beyond belief if he didnt have that gift the panthers would lead the nfl in sacks given up.

    What does cam have to do with palmer though?

    another cross poster

    ******************

    u love cam and hate palmer.

    cross poster.

  1132. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Why claim Babin?

    We’re 3-8. We got into cap hell by making those kind of moves.

  1133. Marks hair Says:

    Reggie changed out what? 25 guys? I can only think of one player that upgraded his position.. study harder fatman

  1134. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.================================================

    Cam #3 most time to throw. Palmer #28 time to throw. Would that be related to pass protection? Or does Miss Tick just make up whatever hoping not to get her a$$ called on the BS?
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/
    ===========

    “The best place to start is which quarterback has the longest time to throw. Now to explain what ‘time to throw’ is, we record the time from when the ball is snapped to the point where the quarterback has either thrown a pass or can no longer throw a pass (has been sacked or has scrambled past the line of scrimmage). ”

    mobility buys time to throw that is why the top of the list are all mobile qbs, this does not mean that they have good or even decent pass protection.

  1135. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    who we are afraid to have any competition from a black man. right?
    ———————–
    Speak for yourself, Brien. aka Dumb btch.
    **********

    u don’t really understand sarcasm do u, brien.

    cross poster.

  1136. KoolKell Says:

    Mistic is driving you racist pigs, absolutely crazy. :-)

  1137. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    No way should the Raiders claim Babin.

    No way should they claim Asomugha either if he is cut. Why get another guy that cant cover??

  1138. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Carson is a 10 year vet and our pass protection is far better than the panthers.

    **********

    LOL! who could have predicted he would:

    1) have an excuse
    2) lie thru his teeth about something

    he thinks the panthers pass protection is far better. this guy pretends he watches every game and he thinks our pass protection is better than someone’s? is that possible? wouldn’t that require defenders jumping offside thru the o-line before the snap? it’s the only way they could apply quicker pressure.
    =========

    what lie?

    the panthers bears and eagles have the worst pass protection in football

    what does newton have to do with palmer?

  1139. dr_robert Says:

    u are all cross posters.

  1140. RaidingTexas Says:

    Contract for Jason Babin per Spotrac:

    BASE SALARY S. BONUS MISC. BONUS CAP HIT
    2012 5,575,000 200,000 175,000 5,950,000
    2013 4,225,000 200,000 100,000 4,525,000
    2014 6,000,000 200,000 175,000 6,375,000
    2015 6,000,000 200,000 150,000 6,350,000
    2016 UFA

    Not sure I would do that based on what he’s owed unless you think you can get him to restructure for less money.

  1141. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    Mistic is driving you racist pigs, absolutely crazy.
    ***********

    that’s racist, u cross poster.

  1142. Marks hair Says:

    1134. Solid point.. hard to compare apples and oranges

  1143. MarcusAllen Says:

    No Namdi back here. His stats were always inflated cause teams threw to the other side. He has been a complete bust in Philly. Next!

  1144. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    what lie?

    the panthers bears and eagles have the worst pass protection in football

    what does newton have to do with palmer?

    ******************

    panthers, bears, and eagles. that must explain vick, newton, and campbell’s poor play.

    u love newton and hate palmer.

    cross poster.

  1145. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    1134. Solid point.. hard to compare apples and oranges

    **************

    that’s racist against oranges. or apples. one of them.

    cross poster.

  1146. MarcusAllen Says:

    Anyone who has watched Babin knows he is done. Nope not here. Next!

  1147. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    People who blame the QB for the woes of this team have a low football IQ. Or just a low IQ in general.
    ==========

    who has done that?

    I think most people that criticize palmer only admit that he is a part of the problem here, going back to last year.

  1148. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Well, when you see Benjarvis Green-Ellis run right past #55 for 48 yards on the 3rd play of the game, or Colston run right past Mike Mitchell with 50 seconds to go in the half for a score in a game we are in, it is REALLY hard to blame the coaching staff.
    ——
    Not true. I’d totally blame the coaching staff. How is it that Denver now posts one of the top. 10 defenses the year AFTER Dennis Allen leaves as DC?

  1149. nycraider Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    Why claim Babin?

    We’re 3-8. We got into cap hell by making those kind of moves.
    —————————–
    your kidding me right? 1.6 mil , this year 5mil a year that isnt guaranteed..read below..no risk,..this is no brainer

    $1,639,706 that remains on his 2012 salary. That team will also take on the three years and $16.65 million in non-guaranteed base salary that remains on Babin’s current contract, which also contains $2.025 million in base salary escalators.

  1150. eastoaklandraider Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    I dont care how bad the Raiders are.. No way they will lose to the Browns at home.

    Easy fools good win for the Raiders this week.
    ————-

    dont set yourself up for failure, we could easily lose this game. Trent Richardson vs our run D doesnt look good.

  1151. dr_robert Says:

    cork:
    Terrelle Pryor has not attempted a pass in a regular-season game, so to expect him to be an instant success is pure folly. If he plays, it likely will be in a Wildcat-like package, at least initially. Palmer remains the far-better option at quarterback.

    ****************

    missdick exposed!

    cross poster.

  1152. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    u love newton and hate palmer.
    ————————
    Whhaaaaaaa, poor baby. If your’e so distraught why don’t you consider an overdose of pills?

  1153. Marks hair Says:

    1145. Huh?.. Not sure what you meant sarcasm doesn’t always read well

  1154. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    morilla Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    People who blame the QB for the woes of this team have a low football IQ. Or just a low IQ in general.
    ==========

    who has done that?

    I think most people that criticize palmer only admit that he is a part of the problem here, going back to last year.

    **************

    what? who has done that? are u f@king kidding? YOU! everyday all day. try not to back peddle so fast.

    racist cross poster.

  1155. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    u love newton and hate palmer.
    ————————
    Whhaaaaaaa, poor baby. If your’e so distraught why don’t you consider an overdose of pills?

    ***************

    oh kell. u have nothing for me old boy. u simply don’t have it in u. quiet down now. watch ur soaps.

  1156. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    1145. Huh?.. Not sure what you meant sarcasm doesn’t always read well

    ***********

    u have always clearly been pro-oranges and anti-apples. it’s disgusting. ur an orange-supremacist.

  1157. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    Well, when you see Benjarvis Green-Ellis run right past #55 for 48 yards on the 3rd play of the game, or Colston run right past Mike Mitchell with 50 seconds to go in the half for a score in a game we are in, it is REALLY hard to blame the coaching staff.
    ——
    Not true. I’d totally blame the coaching staff. How is it that Denver now posts one of the top. 10 defenses the year AFTER Dennis Allen leaves as DC?
    ——————

    In DA defense the D was on the field a lot longer last year due to all the 3 and outs with tebow, under Manning they are having longer sustained drives which keeps the D fresher and playing D with a lead doesnt hurt either. Remember the old saying the best D is a great O.

  1158. Marks hair Says:

    Stop bringing in new players just let this stupid season die quietly

  1159. Marks hair Says:

    Now that is recognizable sarcasm

  1160. 2-14 Says:

    I’ve tried, but can’t name one positive thing McKenzie has done with this franchise yet. What a dissapointment.

  1161. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Ok even if Raiders have a TOP 5 draft pick i could see them moving down and getting more picks. There are some intriguing pass rushers out there.

    DION JORDAN OREGON probaly be picked from 15 down.

    “BYU’s Ezekiel Ansah is earning Jason Pierre-Paul comparisons from scouts”

  1162. 2-14 Says:

    Trade the top 5 pick and McFadden for more picks. Then gut this schitt Defense/coaching staff.

  1163. 2-14 Says:

    Admit you were wrong about DA and fire him, Reggie. It’s the only chance you have of keeping your job 3 years down the road.

  1164. MarcusAllen Says:

    Trent Richardson droolin and Colt McCoy gonna give our DBs some schoolin!

    But it’s ok cause it’s part of the ingenious plan to secure the number 1 pick. Yes that’s precisely what they’ve been planning all year and now we watch it unfold in all its majestic glory.

  1165. 2-14 Says:

    As an Alabama fan, can’t wait to see Richardson lay waste to this pathetic defense. The bigger the blowout, the easier it will be for Reggie to fire this joke of a coaching staff.

  1166. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    HOW TO PROPERLY INFUSE TERRELLE PRYOR THIS YEAR

    super excited that weapon x TP6 will soon be in the mix.

    here is a plan to ensure the best chance of success for our enigmatic young signal caller(any competent coach will do this)

    1. Immediately elevate pryor to number 2, let him split reps in practice with palmer in preparation for the next two games.

    This would allow allen to use pryor in mop up duty in the event of a blowout or relieve palmer if he is in effective in the second halfs of a game or the 4th quarter. This would also allow allen the freedom to give pryor any series of downs he chooses over the next two weeks. Im not in favor of rotating qbs at all for the record

    splitting reps in practice is a great way for pryor to gain experience the proper way to practice as well.

    2. Give pryor the start vs the cheifs at home. this would give pryor the full starters practice reps for that week after graduating for the split reps the previous weeks.

    This would also give him a favorable scenario playing the chiefs here in oakland. The chiefs are terrible, and p[laying at home is always a good place to start a rookie.

    3. allow pryor to start the remainder of the season and he only comes out of the game if he is injured.

    this will rest palmer (if he is in the plans ofr next year) this will allow the raiders an extended look at pryor to get a jump on the draft process.

    This would allow pryor to relax and grow into the roll over 3 games, as we saw in the preseason he seems to get more and more comfortable with each snap and with each game.

  1167. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jacoby Ford is missed.

  1168. 2-14 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    Jacoby Ford is missed.

    __

    At the very least for his kick return ability.

  1169. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c just couldn’t take Dr rob,me,and raider e talking about Raiders football ,and agreeing on certain things like we need a#1 r3ceiver , we need pass rushers, need secondary help,, so he comes in here trying to claim that we’re just 1 person lol, now ofcourse if we were bashing Palmer ,he would have had no problem with us LMAO

  1170. The Mack Says:

    I dont agree with corks assessment that the raiders should keep a coach just for the sake of continuity. You keep a coach because he produces and is the right man for the job. DA has proven to be unproductive and that hes not the right man for the job and its only taken a year to figure that out. Why allow he and Reggie McKenzie to remake the roster when they’ve proven to be incompetent? They’ve brought in 27 players on their own and none of them look to be difference makers, only 3 (Wheeler, goodson, burris) are serviceable and they’re basically over achievers, their ceilings get no higher than what they are now. No one wants to see a team full of shawntae Spencer’s, mike briesels, ron bartells, pat lees, and bergstroms who dont see the field. We want a team of superior athletes not over achievers. So i say pull the plug on Da now before things get worse.

  1171. mcfadden20. Says:

    Jason babins contract is done,he’s cut so we would only owe him whatever money left in his contract this year

  1172. MarcusAllen Says:

    Mistic good thoughts on Pryor.

    I’m not holding my breath on this staff understanding any aspect of what to do.

    DA says TP “is not a finished product by any means”

    Well NO $HIT!!!!

    And he never will be the way this staff has developed players. No new QB ever is – but they get reps and learn. This staff is really really bad.

  1173. MarcusAllen Says:

    Jacoby is done. He has no speed and that’s what he brought to the table. That foot is never going to be right again. A blind man could see the change this preseason.

  1174. 2-14 Says:

    DA wont play Pryor because he wants to pull a few meaningless wins out of his as s

  1175. mcfadden20. Says:

    You keep coaches because coaches get better as they move along, it’s hard to judge rookie coaches, B Walsh was 2-14 I doubt he showed anything that merited he should be considered bringing back, Jimmy Johnson was 1-15, hardly a record that merits bringing that guy ,you can say regression what ever you want to say but it’s not deniable we suck at every position,we lack playmakers and lack depth

  1176. MarcusAllen Says:

    B Walsh and jimmy j had success at earlier coaching gigs.

    DA has zilch on them. Look it up.

  1177. 2-14 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    You keep coaches because coaches get better as they move along, it’s hard to judge rookie coaches, B Walsh was 2-14 I doubt he showed anything that merited he should be considered bringing back, Jimmy Johnson was 1-15, hardly a record that merits bringing that guy ,you can say regression what ever you want to say but it’s not deniable we suck at every position,we lack playmakers and lack depth

    ___

    Agreed. However, I don’t see DA as the second coming of Jimmie Johnson or Bill Walsh. And rookie head coaches have had success recently in the NFL. 179 points in 4 games can’t be all put on the players. The coaches bear some responsibility.

  1178. The Mack Says:

    @Mc20 youre right if a coach is getting better as he goes along he should be kept ut Da is getting worse by the game, hes getting worse as we go along. Usually we come out in the 3rd and get smoked this time the game was over in the 1st. Smh Its ob obvious hes not the answer and if the raiders keep him it’ll show just how bad this new management is and will be in the future.

  1179. TheFinalBoss Says:

    If Reece isn’t signed log term as you suggest, what was the extension he signed?

  1180. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Reggie needs to claim Babin, release McClain or Kelly.

  1181. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    You keep coaches because coaches get better as they move along, it’s hard to judge rookie coaches, B Walsh was 2-14 I doubt he showed anything that merited he should be considered bringing back, Jimmy Johnson was 1-15, hardly a record that merits bringing that guy
    =======================

    both obviously showed something that caused the teams to bring them back or they would have been fired.

    plenty of coaches have been and done in the nfl kotite, mora jr, carrol to name a few.

    How can you say they didnt show anything that warranted a return, yet they did actually return?!?!?

    mac20 = raider e?

  1182. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    YO THE BEEEECH DAWG REPRESENT IN FULL EFFECT

    Dang Dawgs, about time they started to clean up this blog, whut whut

    Yo Cork, the PMPP has your back, homeslice. What it is.

    So who got canned? Sorry, the Beeech Diggity was humping this smoking hot Korean babe in the cornhole, passed out for a few hours in the hot tub and missed all the fun

    Please tell me they straight up nailed KrappyRat, that’d be hilarious to see the Old Troll wander back over to PFT.com like last time

    We all know how that turned out, holla back Lil Kim

  1183. The Mack Says:

    And while we’re talking about walsh and Jimmy Johnson please tell me the teams they coached records before they took over… I doubt either team was 8-8 or were competitive before they got there. I bet neither of them had a pro bowl qb to start with eithe. DA has taken a mid level team and turn them into the megatronless Detroit lions.

  1184. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    im out lets see what palmer can do against the browns.

    will he sink to a pitiful 7-15?

    palmer since 2009 is 11-25 as a starter

    after the flagship flop job of his career in his legacy game last weekend the team owner has grown weary of palmers bungling ways.

    Cleavland and the donks are shaping up to be palmers last stand

    His try out has gone awry

    must see tv

    palmers last stand

  1185. DJ Johnny Says:

    1184,

    We know you’ll be rooting for the Raiders to lose and for our QB to fail so good luck on Sunday fellow Raider fan.

  1186. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    pretty dayum hard for DA to get worse…

  1187. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Gotta admit, though, without all my minions floundering around the blog, begging for beatdowns, the Beeeech Diggity and his PMPP homies would have a lot less to laugh at

    But I dig getting this place cleaned up, especially when it comes to uber nerds and their lame sock puppet litters

    Life as a blog superhero would be a little less interesting without Peemore Nob Bust to scissor kick when I feel the urge, but dang, that’s evolution

    Speaking of evolution, my new skateboard/bong is hella tight

    Went down to Venice to score some new modern art for my walls and came home with a bag of burritos

    Just can’t fight this feeling any longer, word

  1188. 2-14 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    1184,

    We know you’ll be rooting for the Raiders to lose and for our QB to fail so good luck on Sunday fellow Raider fan.

    __

    I think his point was Palmer hasn’t been worth what we gave up for him last year. After the last 4 weeks, do you have any optomism left? The only thing a meaningless win will do is hurt our draft position and validate the failure that is Dennis Allen/Knapp/Tarver.

  1189. DJ Johnny Says:

    Like Cork said in the chat, all excuses aside, Reggie did not bring in ONE SINGLE IMPACT DEFENSIVE PLAYER.

    Inexcusable.

    Babin is out there.

    If Reggie has any ability as GM whatsoever he will GET IT DONE.

    The HC already admitted recently we don’t have nay pass rushers.

    What’s Reggie gonna say now…we don’t need one?

  1190. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    no dj we have no money…lol we are stuck in salary cap hell…”ten and then”

  1191. DJ Johnny Says:

    If any team in the league NEEDS Babin it’s the Raiders.

    NO EXCUSES!

    GET HIM!

    Restore our faith you know what the heck you’re doing.

  1192. DJ Johnny Says:

    We’ve got the money.

    That’s the GM’s job to figure it out.

    It can be done.

    NO EXCUSES!

  1193. 2-14 Says:

    Instead Reggie re-signed/re-structured Branch and Seymour. Given Reggie’s recent track record of free agent activity, my guess is he would rather sign another Packers practice squad reject then a legitimate, proven starter on defense. I miss Al.

  1194. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    DJ, expect our defense to finally break into the top 20 in years 5-7

    By year 9, we should have an offense capable of scoring in the red zone

    If we’re lucky, by year 15 we’ll have lost in our first playoff appearance by less than 20 pts

    Can’t even begin to tell you what to expect by year 19, totally pumped

  1195. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    i agree just being sarcastic at some of these salary cap experts in here….

  1196. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    **FUN** Raiders Drinking Game **GOOD TIMES**

    Every time a Raider player misses a block and/or tackle, take a drink..

    **Disclaimer: It is wise to keep a puke bucket near by. You will probably need it by halftime. Throw your car keys behind the couch before playing the Raiders Drinking Game.

    Not responsible for: Broken TV screens. P.O’d ‘ol ladies, soiled carpets, floors, chairs, sofas, or articles of clothing..

    Stock up your ice box, and liqour cabinets NOW!… ENJOY!..

  1197. DJ Johnny Says:

    Reggie has limitations…we get that, but he needs to do SOMETHING that shows he’s not just some lame guy who can’t get anything done unles all the stars are aligned perfectly and the guy just falls into our lap.

    Show some of that “special” ability we were told he has.

    All we would owe is the remainder of what Bbain is due for the season.

    It can be done IF Reggie has any ability.

    We aren’t talking Terrell Suggs here.

  1198. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    1184,

    We know you’ll be rooting for the Raiders to lose and for our QB to fail so good luck on Sunday fellow Raider fan.
    ==============

    i have never rooted against my team

    I have never rooted for palmer to fail, i only predicted what transpired this year and last

    peace

  1199. DJ Johnny Says:

    1194.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    DJ, expect our defense to finally break into the top 20 in years 5-7

    By year 9, we should have an offense capable of scoring in the red zone

    If we’re lucky, by year 15 we’ll have lost in our first playoff appearance by less than 20 pts

    Can’t even begin to tell you what to expect by year 19, totally pumped

    Me too. I have it circled on my calender.

    Ten and then…Ahhhh yes…..patience…..dear sweet, exquisate patience.

  1200. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Babin has a huge contract, right? I don’t know if we should take that kind of salary cap hit.

  1201. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    maybe we will have a new stadium by then as well…

  1202. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    on cue….the salary cap sirens….

  1203. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Babin isn’t going to help us this year. What if he has nothing left and we are stuck with his contract?

  1204. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    quack…anything will help us this year…a gd color cardboard with zebra written on it wouldhp us….

  1205. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn Cork didn’t answer any of my questions.

    Want to see if he (now anyone on here) rewatched the first play of the game defensively.

    RIght before the snap, McClain points Wheeler in one direction, the ball is snapped, and Wheeler runs the opposite way, right into McClain. The play goes EXACTLY where McClain pointed him to.

    WTF?????

  1206. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mclain gets too much blame…these other fools are messing up as well…

  1207. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Burris had 13 tackles against the Bengals. Pretty solid game.

  1208. Just Fire Baby Says:

    BAbin is the type of right-wing, NRA enthusiast this team needs. Would go perfectly with Veldheer.

  1209. 2-14 Says:

    I see team after team turn around their franchise in one year. Patience my asz. This new regime has flopped, end of discussion.

  1210. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    10 of which were 9 yards downfield!

  1211. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Raiders would have 3rd shot at Babin.

  1212. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    agreed 2-14….but we still have ten and then….

  1213. inonewordraider Says:

    i have never rooted against my team

    I have never rooted for palmer to fail, i only predicted what transpired this year and last

    peace
    _____________________
    you keep mentioning his win loss record as if there are no other factors to such record, obviously you know the win loss record alone isn’t a good enough argument don’t you?

    you want to keep telling us how “right” you were about the prediction, i’ll keep bringing up Troy Smith Joe Webb JC>CP and Andrew Luck isn’t on the “same planet” as RGIII (can’t believe you still stand by that one, you do realize Luck is going to the playoffs right hows the win loss comparison there)

    I must admit however that “golden haired hero” is up there with one of my favorite all time Raider nicknames along with DHB=”drops hella balls” and Reggie Mckenzie=”Chubby Checker” and Mark Davis=the little dutch boy

  1214. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly
    RT @BradBiggs: Here is another big one. #Bears put LB Aaron Curry through a tryout today at Halas Hall.
    Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
    ====
    I thought Bears were smarter than that.

  1215. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I see team after team turn around their franchise in one year.

    ********************

    Care to show me one that didn’t either change QB’s or have a top 10 pick?

    The Colts picked 4 GUYS before we got Bergs. They then drafted another two more, before we got Criner.

  1216. SaintKaufman Says:

    ’sup gentlemen?

    Would like to give Cork a big beers up for banning some of the riff raff, hopefully more to follow.

    I’m going to be really pissed if there isn’t at least 8 men in the box the entire game this week against Cle.

  1217. 2-14 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    I see team after team turn around their franchise in one year.

    ********************

    Care to show me one that didn’t either change QB’s or have a top 10 pick?

    The Colts picked 4 GUYS before we got Bergs. They then drafted another two more, before we got Criner.

    __

    Well the Bucs have a rookie head coach from RUTGERS and Josh Freeman, whom people left for dead after last year. Good enough?

  1218. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    curry is honna blow up next to urlacher

  1219. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Weeden can sling it, especially deep. Very strong arm.

    Probably for him, the dude Little he throws to drops everything.

    That’s probably the guy we will triple cover.

  1220. Reggies Team Now Says:

    Whedon might not play.

  1221. inonewordraider Says:

    darren mcfragile
    glass schilens
    and justin farglass all very good one’s as well

  1222. mcfadden20. Says:

    I know you guys hate the cap excuse, but besides running the ball last year, with Mcfadden ofcourse, who only plays about 6 games a year, what was our team really good at? how were we supposed to contend with without doubt harder schedule with basically pretty much same roster without any major signing on D side because we couldn’t while other teams improved themselves in Offseason and FA? And before you guys throw out that Al D always got around the cap , lemme ask you this, without mortgaging his future by trading away pick for some stars, who he then overpaid for , what was the last big FA AL D brought to this team?

  1223. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well the Bucs have a rookie head coach from RUTGERS and Josh Freeman, whom people left for dead after last year. Good enough?

    *****************

    And a top 7 pick, Mark Barron, who is a beast Safety.

    Also a 2nd 1st round pick, Martin RB, think he is decent.

  1224. SaintKaufman Says:

    Agree JFB. I’ve watched some of their games and Weeden is better than I thought he’d be. Richardson on the other hand looks to be like a more athletic Lynch. Scary good and breaks lots of tackles.

  1225. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cool link to some oddball stats, if anyone is interested.

    Carson leads the NFL in yards after catch for QB, which suprised me.

    http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=receiving&range=nfl&rank=114

  1226. RaidingTexas Says:

    2-14 Says:

    I miss Al.

    ——————————–

    You miss 17 years of futility out of the last 20 years?

  1227. 2-14 Says:

    The Raiders’ secondary made Blaine Gabbert look like Montana before he was injured. Wheedon or McCoy, doesn’t matter. Either one will move the ball and Richardson will run wild. DA’s death nail comes this Sunday.

  1228. mcfadden20. Says:

    2-14 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    I see team after team turn around their franchise in one year.

    ********************

    Care to show me one that didn’t either change QB’s or have a top 10 pick?

    The Colts picked 4 GUYS before we got Bergs. They then drafted another two more, before we got Criner.

    __

    Well the Bucs have a rookie head coach from RUTGERS and Josh Freeman, whom people left for dead after last year. Good enough?


    OK they had like 25 M in cap space, they went ahead and got #1 Receiver, they spent #1 pick on a RB, then shored up other places

  1229. 2-14 Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    2-14 Says:

    I miss Al.

    ——————————–

    You miss 17 years of futility out of the last 20 years?

    __

    I miss an interesting franchise. We were bad, yeah, but damn were we interesting. mcKenzie and Allen are bores

  1230. mcfadden20. Says:

    Oh i forgot they drafted a legit FS Barron too

  1231. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    i have never rooted against my team

    I have never rooted for palmer to fail, i only predicted what transpired this year and last

    peace
    _____________________
    you keep mentioning his win loss record as if there are no other factors to such record, obviously you know the win loss record alone isn’t a good enough argument don’t you?

    =================

    how is showing his win loss record (7-14) rooting for palmer to fail or rooting against my beloved raiders?

    i did predict that losses and mind numbing turnovers would follow his signing here, I was right.

    I did also say that not only was hue foolish to think palmer would lead us to the superbowl, but we would also fail to reach the playoffs and would end up with losing seasons under palmers guidance. Again i was right.

    what do the other guys that dont play here have to do with any of that?

    get over your hero worship and if you have an issue take it up with the nfl stat/ record keepers.

  1232. mcfadden20. Says:

    If you want to compare us to teams , compare us to similar teams, which went through salary cap hells and purging the previous big signings

  1233. inonewordraider Says:

    da sucks, this isn’t the same team that played atlanta or pittsburgh

  1234. Just Fire Baby Says:

    ONe of the interesting ones is that Andrew Luck leads the NFL in 3rd and 8+ conversions, at an astonishing 45%.

    Not in the top 20? RGIII. In fact he is dead last in the NFL at a measly 5%. Carson is at 25%.

    http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=receiving&rank=047&year=

  1235. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    2-14…weeden/mcCoy/freakin holmgren back there will eat this zone up….

  1236. RaidingTexas Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    I see team after team turn around their franchise in one year.

    ********************

    Care to show me one that didn’t either change QB’s or have a top 10 pick?

    The Colts picked 4 GUYS before we got Bergs. They then drafted another two more, before we got Criner.

    ———————————————

    And prior to last season, the Colts had NINE straight seasons with double-digit wins. NINE!!! It’s not like the Colts were recovering from a decade of losing under a madman hellbent on running the team into the ground.

  1237. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    HOW TO PROPERLY INFUSE TERRELLE PRYOR THIS YEAR

    super excited that weapon x TP6 will soon be in the mix.

    here is a plan to ensure the best chance of success for our enigmatic young signal caller(any competent coach will do this)

    1. Immediately elevate pryor to number 2, let him split reps in practice with palmer in preparation for the next two games.

    This would allow allen to use pryor in mop up duty in the event of a blowout or relieve palmer if he is in effective in the second halfs of a game or the 4th quarter. This would also allow allen the freedom to give pryor any series of downs he chooses over the next two weeks. Im not in favor of rotating qbs at all for the record

    splitting reps in practice is a great way for pryor to gain experience the proper way to practice as well.

    2. Give pryor the start vs the cheifs at home. this would give pryor the full starters practice reps for that week after graduating for the split reps the previous weeks.

    This would also give him a favorable scenario playing the chiefs here in oakland. The chiefs are terrible, and p[laying at home is always a good place to start a rookie.

    3. allow pryor to start the remainder of the season and he only comes out of the game if he is injured.

    this will rest palmer (if he is in the plans ofr next year) this will allow the raiders an extended look at pryor to get a jump on the draft process.

    This would allow pryor to relax and grow into the roll over 3 games, as we saw in the preseason he seems to get more and more comfortable with each snap and with each game.

    *******************

    man, the real question is how do we get ur plan to the raiders staff? we need to get them ur draft board too.

    btw, there is so much to love about this post:

    INFUSE TERRELLE PRYOR

    enigmatic young signal caller

    any competent coach will do this

    second halfs of a game

    grow into the roll

    –priceless

  1238. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    i have never rooted against my team

    I have never rooted for palmer to fail, i only predicted what transpired this year and last

    peace
    _____________________
    you keep mentioning his win loss record as if there are no other factors to such record, obviously you know the win loss record alone isn’t a good enough argument don’t you?

    =================

    how is showing his win loss record (7-14) rooting for palmer to fail or rooting against my beloved raiders?

    i did predict that losses and mind numbing turnovers would follow his signing here, I was right.

    I did also say that not only was hue foolish to think palmer would lead us to the superbowl, but we would also fail to reach the playoffs and would end up with losing seasons under palmers guidance. Again i was right.

    what do the other guys that dont play here have to do with any of that?

    get over your hero worship and if you have an issue take it up with the nfl stat/ record keepers.

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins

  1239. 2-14 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Oh i forgot they drafted a legit FS Barron too

    __

    I was agreeing with you. How many top ten picks did this franchise have, and how many 10 loss seasons followed. My point was other teams turn it around in one year, why can’t we next year?

  1240. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Andrew Luck also leads the NFL in longest average attempted pass from the line of scrimmage. Basically he pushes it down the field further than anyone in the league.

  1241. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    i have never rooted against my team

    I have never rooted for palmer to fail, i only predicted what transpired this year and last

    peace
    _____________________
    you keep mentioning his win loss record as if there are no other factors to such record, obviously you know the win loss record alone isn’t a good enough argument don’t you?

    =================

    how is showing his win loss record (7-14) rooting for palmer to fail or rooting against my beloved raiders?

    i did predict that losses and mind numbing turnovers would follow his signing here, I was right.

    I did also say that not only was hue foolish to think palmer would lead us to the superbowl, but we would also fail to reach the playoffs and would end up with losing seasons under palmers guidance. Again i was right.

    what do the other guys that dont play here have to do with any of that?

    get over your hero worship and if you have an issue take it up with the nfl stat/ record keepers.

    ******************

    predicting the raiders would be bad was a real stretch there buddy.

  1242. mcfadden20. Says:

    2-14 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Oh i forgot they drafted a legit FS Barron too

    __

    I was agreeing with you. How many top ten picks did this franchise have, and how many 10 loss seasons followed. My point was other teams turn it around in one year, why can’t we next year?

    —-

    We will turn it around next year, if they don’t its a failure , they would have some cap room they would have draft picks and year of experience under their belt, no excuses

  1243. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mistic,

    Good thing you didn’t bet me EJ Manuel would be the 2nd QB taken. I even gifted you a 3rd spot to try to lure you in, but you wouldn’t bite.

    All hat and no cattle you are.

  1244. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    ONe of the interesting ones is that Andrew Luck leads the NFL in 3rd and 8+ conversions, at an astonishing 45%.

    Not in the top 20? RGIII. In fact he is dead last in the NFL at a measly 5%. Carson is at 25%.

    http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=receiving&rank=047&year=
    ===================

    interesting but not very meaningful in terms of comparisons between rgIII and luck

    luck has hall of fame wr reggie wayne ever heard of him?

    rgIII lost garcon for most of the year and fred davis for the entire season.

    These are the top pas catchers on that team. i think it is amazing what RGIII has done with very limited wrs.

    LOL luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

  1245. Just Fire Baby Says:

    On 3rd an 8 or more, RGIII has converted 2 of 37 passing.

    Andrew Luck, 27 of 59.

  1246. 303Raider Says:

    Just asking:

    Do we keep our 1st round pick this year or does it go to Cincy no matter what?

    I just read an article on USA today that says we lose our 1st rounder this year. I thought we only lose our 1st rounder if we made the playoffs??

  1247. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    ONe of the interesting ones is that Andrew Luck leads the NFL in 3rd and 8+ conversions, at an astonishing 45%.

    Not in the top 20? RGIII. In fact he is dead last in the NFL at a measly 5%. Carson is at 25%.

    http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=receiving&rank=047&year=
    ===================

    interesting but not very meaningful in terms of comparisons between rgIII and luck

    luck has hall of fame wr reggie wayne ever heard of him?

    rgIII lost garcon for most of the year and fred davis for the entire season.

    These are the top pas catchers on that team. i think it is amazing what RGIII has done with very limited wrs.

    LOL luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

    RG griffin have Running game, QB’s best friend , which shanahan pulls out of his ass every year with late round picks or udfa rb’s

  1248. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins

    ***************

    LIAR! u don’t like him and u never will! ur unfair to him! u don’t like him cuz he scares u and ur afraid of big black people.

    and ur a cross poster.

    and ur the boogie man that scared me behind the dumpster when i was 8.

    and ur mean, and i don’t like u!

    –missdick the supertard

  1249. mcfadden20. Says:

    Doesn’t C Newton have Steve Smith , a pretty good wr and better than all of our receivers, 2nd year and still struggling to get over 5 wins hump , while Luck is going to win 10 games and in playoffs in first year

  1250. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

    ********************

    Your right, Luck is not on the under .500 planet.

    Probably NEVER will be.

  1251. RaidingTexas Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    LOL luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

    ——————————–

    Agreed that RGIII has been amazing given the injuries. I have always said I wished we could have drafted him.

    But this comment is over the top. They’re both about as elite as you can expect rookie QBs to be.

    Can’t you appreciate them both? It seems you have some other motive here. I can’t quite put my finger on it.

  1252. 303Raider Says:

    Andrew luck and RG3 are not on the same planet??

    That’s is stupid talk right there….

  1253. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins

    ***************

    LIAR! u don’t like him and u never will! ur unfair to him! u don’t like him cuz he scares u and ur afraid of big black people.

    and ur a cross poster.

    and ur the boogie man that scared me behind the dumpster when i was 8.

    and ur mean, and i don’t like u!

    –missdick the supertard

    LMAO, that’s some kinda post i was expecting from him but just wait for it

  1254. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

    **************

    yeah, we know. he leads a “space-age attack”.

    that was one of the greatest unintentionally funny missdick moments ever. he’s a true comedic genius. like a militant erkel.

  1255. RaidingTexas Says:

    303Raider Says:

    I just read an article on USA today that says we lose our 1st rounder this year. I thought we only lose our 1st rounder if we made the playoffs??

    ———————————

    Incorrect. We only lose the 1st rounder if we get to the AFC championship game. That is clearly not going to happen. We lose the 2nd rounder instead.

  1256. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Best 4th quarter completion % and QBR in the NFL?

    It’s not even close……Jay Cutler (70% and 130)

    Suprised the hell out of me.

  1257. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins
    ============

    if he ‘didnt show that he was even a back up” then how is he on the team as a back up?

    if he hasnt “shown anybody”, then why was he being discussed by davis big mack and tarver?

    Why did allen say ‘he has shown improvement’ he must be impressing soemone or they are just making this all up?

    beside you are lying you dont want pryor at all you said “black qb suck”.

    Just continue worshiping at the feet of your golden haired god palmer, impostor fan

    let the real raider fans be excited for TP6

  1258. dr_robert Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    LOL luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

    ——————————–

    Agreed that RGIII has been amazing given the injuries. I have always said I wished we could have drafted him.

    But this comment is over the top. They’re both about as elite as you can expect rookie QBs to be.

    Can’t you appreciate them both? It seems you have some other motive here. I can’t quite put my finger on it.

    ***************

    LOL! what is it he is trying to get at exactly? there’s a theme i’m picking up on but it’s hard to be precise. can anyone help?

  1259. Seymour Bush Says:

    Please ban McFadden20 and Dr. Robert.
    This childish exchange, all day, all night, repeating the exact same childish insults, has to stop.
    I’m warning both of you right now.
    You do not want to incur my wrath.
    You have been warned.

  1260. mcfadden20. Says:

    He will pull out all excuses for the QB’s he like, how they are f8ked in every way from management to water boy to cheerleaders , except only the qbs he hate have the best supporting cast in the world and the best team around them to win and have 10 year experience lmao

    He even mentioned CHicago have horrible line? hmm , would he have mentioned it have JC not even started a game for them? JC 10 points in 6 Qaurters, and 2 losses, CUtler doesn’t have any problem behind that line , he seems fine putting up close to 30 points

  1261. DutchRaider77 Says:

    luck has hall of fame wr reggie wayne ever heard of him?

    ______________________________________________________

    I was kinda shocked that nobody offered him a contract…he was a FA a lot longer than I thought he would have been.

    Garcon signed a 5 year deal worth 42.5 million dollars with the Redskins.

    The Colts then worked out a deal with Reggie Wayne shortly after. Wayne signed a 3 year deal worth 17.5 million.

  1262. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    LOL luck isnt on the same planet as RGIII

    ——————————–

    Agreed that RGIII has been amazing given the injuries. I have always said I wished we could have drafted him.

    But this comment is over the top. They’re both about as elite as you can expect rookie QBs to be.

    Can’t you appreciate them both? It seems you have some other motive here. I can’t quite put my finger on it.
    =============

    you must have missed it

    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    The truth is though rgIII is not only more accurate, and a better decision maker, but he has a much stronger arm. also athletically rgIII can do things luck could never dream of if he was over dosed on laughing gas.

    lets be real here

  1263. inonewordraider Says:

    how is showing his win loss record (7-14) rooting for palmer to fail or rooting against my beloved raiders?

    i did predict that losses and mind numbing turnovers would follow his signing here, I was right.

    I did also say that not only was hue foolish to think palmer would lead us to the superbowl, but we would also fail to reach the playoffs and would end up with losing seasons under palmers guidance. Again i was right.

    what do the other guys that dont play here have to do with any of that?

    get over your hero worship and if you have an issue take it up with the nfl stat/ record keepers.
    ________
    no hero worship here unlike you drooling over cams 3 wins you can take your JC>Cp argement up with EVERY GM in the league.

    I bring up other predictions because you mention your prediction and your predictionsof troy smith and joe webbs success were obviously way off but your luck isn’t on the same planet as rgIII argument will haunt you for years and further damage your credibility. the redskins had a better record last year than the colts, in case your forgot

  1264. Just Fire Baby Says:

    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    *******************

    You had him as the 3rd best rookie QB behind Russell Wilson, two weeks into the season.

  1265. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Seymour Bush should be banned for his bad sense of humor.

  1266. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins
    ============

    if he ‘didnt show that he was even a back up” then how is he on the team as a back up?

    if he hasnt “shown anybody”, then why was he being discussed by davis big mack and tarver?

    Why did allen say ‘he has shown improvement’ he must be impressing soemone or they are just making this all up?

    beside you are lying you dont want pryor at all you said “black qb suck”.

    Just continue worshiping at the feet of your golden haired god palmer, impostor fan

    let the real raider fans be excited for TP6
    *******************

    LOL! he did it mc20!! he called u a liar. he must not have seen my post. hilarious!

    –he’s the backup’s backup

    –he was being discussed because a question was asked. and they never said reggie was involved. that’s u slipping in another lie to help ur case.

    –this is my favorite. why did DA say he’s showing improvement? well, gee, uh, i’m pretty sure he says that about everyone. it’s coach speak. like “mistic is showing improvement”. see how easy it was to say it even if it’s not true?

  1267. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    ill be back in a few

  1268. inonewordraider Says:

    rgiii 5 wins
    luck 7 wins

    for those keeping score, wins and losses are the basis of your cp v jc argument correct?

  1269. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RGIII may have all that, one thing he doesn’t have is a better winning %.

    Not in college, not in the pro’s.

    Luck has never missed a start either. RGIII, misses them every year.

  1270. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins
    ============

    if he ‘didnt show that he was even a back up” then how is he on the team as a back up?

    if he hasnt “shown anybody”, then why was he being discussed by davis big mack and tarver?

    Why did allen say ‘he has shown improvement’ he must be impressing soemone or they are just making this all up?

    beside you are lying you dont want pryor at all you said “black qb suck”.

    Just continue worshiping at the feet of your golden haired god palmer, impostor fan

    let the real raider fans be excited for TP6

    Dude seriously? Palmer’s back up is Matt Lienart, so he has not even shown to the world that he even merits consideration for back up spot, until now, but since they will give him chance to show what he can do , i want him to succeed, if i was a Black QB hater like you said , it ain’t hard to predict he will fail just like and it will most likely be the case 95% of the time just like it’s easy for you to predict Raiders will lose because ofcourse the team isn’t good enough, but i won’t go your idiotic hate routes and expect certain guy to fail just because you don’t like him

  1271. RaiderLen Says:

    Afternoon Fellas,

    Colt’s go from Manning to Luck.

    Lucky SOB’s.

    Reggie needs to gut the remaining garbage contracts on the roster, and stockpile draft picks and cap money.

    Scrutinize the assistants and role heads as needed.

    DA has to stay for another season.

  1272. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Even though Pryor has not shown anybody he’s even a backup quality at this time, all of the Raider nation would like to hope he proves all of us wrong and goes onto become a #1 QB for us and lead us to multiple SB wins
    ============

    if he ‘didnt show that he was even a back up” then how is he on the team as a back up?

    if he hasnt “shown anybody”, then why was he being discussed by davis big mack and tarver?

    Why did allen say ‘he has shown improvement’ he must be impressing soemone or they are just making this all up?

    beside you are lying you dont want pryor at all you said “black qb suck”.

    Just continue worshiping at the feet of your golden haired god palmer, impostor fan

    let the real raider fans be excited for TP6
    ==========================================
    First off you aren’t any kind of Raider fan, much less a “real raider fan”.

    You seem totally confused, Mistic, like usual, so you need to pay attention.

    TP is not a backup. He’s 3rd string. He’s on the roster. He’s not BACKING UP THE STARTING QB.
    Oh, I see, you want a play of words, where you are going to say “if he’s not starting, he’s backing up the starter.” You would be wrong, as usual. He’s backing up the backup. Yes, he’s just that bad at this point.

    As far as your comment: “Why did allen say ‘he has shown improvement’ he must be impressing soemone or they are just making this all up?”

    Are you really this slow? He was asked about TP, and he basically said HE’S NOT READY. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Stating “well, he’s shown improvement” WHILE ADDING HE’S NO WAY READY, ADDING THAT EVEN TP KNOWS HE’S NOT READY, OR WHERE HE SHOULD BE, IS A CLEAR CLUE, even to the clueless, that he’s 3rd string for a reason.

    That analogy is pathetic, even for you Mistic, who excels at pathetic comments.

  1273. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, the Beeeech Diggity will be chillin’ tonight at Staples, witnessing the evolution of the DiAntoni uptempo O and getting the Lawg slobbed by a wasted Lexus rep

    This shorty always gets plastered on Hurricanes and by the 3rd quarter she’s begging the Dawg to whip out the Lawg

    Gots to give the people what they want, not what they need. Or maybe its the other way around

    Either way, if any of your losers want to stop by I’ll let you sample the extreme nacho station

    Them jalapenos don’t lie, on the real tip

    Especially when you take your trusty morning duece. Hot snakes 4 dayz, whut whut

  1274. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    The truth is though rgIII is not only more accurate, and a better decision maker, but he has a much stronger arm. also athletically rgIII can do things luck could never dream of if he was over dosed on laughing gas.

    lets be real here
    **************

    oh wait. i thought it was football, not the olympics.

  1275. mcfadden20. Says:

    Oh how did i know Mistic was going to all of a sudden have something important come up , right when he’s about to get exposed again, just like 1000’s of times before

  1276. Seymour Bush Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Seymour Bush should be banned for his bad sense of humor
    ————————————–
    Did you ask permission to post, using my name?
    Don’t let it happen again, mama’s boy.

  1277. dr_robert Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    I bring up other predictions because you mention your prediction and your predictionsof troy smith and joe webbs success were obviously way off but your luck isn’t on the same planet as rgIII argument will haunt you for years and further damage your credibility. the redskins had a better record last year than the colts, in case your forgot

    ****************

    come one now. u don’t think logic or sense will have any effect on the supertard do u? he’s impervious to all!

  1278. 2-14 Says:

    Why sign Babin when the season is done? Not part of the long term plans. Signing him would be a Hue/Al move. I will pass.

  1279. dr_robert Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    *******************

    You had him as the 3rd best rookie QB behind Russell Wilson, two weeks into the season.

    ****************

    stop it! it has no effect! he’s the supertard!

  1280. mcfadden20. Says:

    I asked him if Washington should win atleast 5 SB’s for giving up kings ransom 3 1st rd picks, 1 2nd rd pick just to move up 4 spots, or he’s the worst trade ever, ofcourse no reply

  1281. RaidingTexas Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    lets be real here

    ——————————

    I am being real. I’m not declaring which rookie QB is on which planet after 11 games of evidence.

  1282. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    The truth is though rgIII is not only more accurate, and a better decision maker, but he has a much stronger arm. also athletically rgIII can do things luck could never dream of if he was over dosed on laughing gas.

    lets be real here
    **************

    oh wait. i thought it was football, not the olympics.
    ==============================
    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    Nothing you can do about it.
    You came up short in the gene pool.
    See Carson Palmer for proof.

  1283. SaintKaufman Says:

    Fellas, why do you insist on feeding into this guys bitter outlook of people and the world?
    Have you not met someone like this in your life? It’s like trying to tell the pope that jesus was a drug dealer. He has decided, and that now controls all thinking in his life.

    I will admit that it infuriates me that someone would laugh at the failure of a player on our team only because he does not fit the predetermined mandate that he requires.
    Just let him spout off and ignore him.

    Carson is our QB and I’m very happy he is. BTW, he will also be our starter next year as well.

  1284. 303Raider Says:

    Bears just waived one of their DT, we need to test drive some dlineman ASAP!!!

  1285. RaidingTexas Says:

    2-14 Says:

    Why sign Babin when the season is done? Not part of the long term plans. Signing him would be a Hue/Al move. I will pass.

    ————————————-

    I thought you missed Al and his “interesting” ways. LOL

  1286. The Big Banana Says:

    The truth is though rgIII is not only more accurate, and a better decision maker, but he has a much stronger arm. also athletically rgIII can do things luck could never dream of if he was over dosed on laughing gas.

    ——-

    This the same cat that says wins and losses are all that’s needed to judge a QB? Luck not on same planet as RGIII. Lol, this place is funny.

  1287. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Fellas, why do you insist on feeding into this guys bitter outlook of people and the world?
    Have you not met someone like this in your life? It’s like trying to tell the pope that jesus was a drug dealer. He has decided, and that now controls all thinking in his life.

    I will admit that it infuriates me that someone would laugh at the failure of a player on our team only because he does not fit the predetermined mandate that he requires.
    Just let him spout off and ignore him.

    Carson is our QB and I’m very happy he is. BTW, he will also be our starter next year as well.
    =======================================
    CP went into Cinc and embarrassed himself, and every white qb who ever played the game.

    His record speaks for itself.
    Accept the fact he’s just not on the same level as the waves of the future.

  1288. mcfadden20. Says:

    He likes to bring up Kings ransom we gave up for Palmer and still no wins..

    Cam Newton = #1 pick still failing to get 5 wins in 2nd year
    Luck # 1 pick, leading his team to playoffs in 1st year

    #1 pick have more value than mid 1st rd pick and top 10 2nd rd pick

    So who exactly is failing here?

  1289. RaiderLen Says:

    #1282 is aaaa…trollllin

  1290. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    Brahs, the Beeeech Diggity will be chillin’ tonight at Staples,

    *************

    i might believe he’d be at the office store, trying to make eye contact with chic in charge of calculators. pretty sure she would just call security though.

  1291. 2-14 Says:

    303Raider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Bears just waived one of their DT, we need to test drive some dlineman ASAP!!!

    __

    Draft one no more washups please

  1292. RaidingTexas Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    ———————————

    LMAO! Somebody please tell Tom Brady and Peyton Manning that slow QBs suck and will never make it in the NFL.

  1293. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    White Supre-macy is dead, hard as many of you try to keep it alive.
    Mods here: EXPOSED

    Majority of posters here: EXPOSED

    Power to the people. The real people. The deserved race.
    You know what I’m talking about.

  1294. The Big Banana Says:

    Post 1282 ranks up there with Fangs. Hope that’s someone hijacking your handle, Mistic. Classless.

  1295. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c is exposed from every angle , watch his only argument would be to come in here and tell us, we’re talking about the Raiders and why do other QBs matter besides JC was 11-7 in his Raider career Palmer is 7-17 LMAO

  1296. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    ———————————

    LMAO! Somebody please tell Tom Brady and Peyton Manning that slow QBs suck and will never make it in the NFL.
    ============================
    You ever see them run? The slowest black player is faster than the fastest white player.

    It’s the chosen race, that is destined to excel. The wave of the future is here. Yes, I am part of that wave, like it or not.

  1297. RaiderLen Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    ———————————

    LMAO! Somebody please tell Tom Brady and Peyton Manning that slow QBs suck and will never make it in the NFL.
    —————————–
    I don’t think that was Mistic, as the post had a hyper link?

    I particularly liked the part about “slow thinking” however.

  1298. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    Nothing you can do about it.
    You came up short in the gene pool.
    See Carson Palmer for proof.

    *****************

    LOL! he did it! he finally just said it. and this guy claimed he wasn’t racist.

    and i bet i ran faster as a high schooler than u did pal. cuz i played safety for the #3 ranked high school team in the country.

    and i’m waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy smarter than u.

    see how the racist sounds EXACTLY like fangs?

  1299. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Post 1282 ranks up there with Fangs. Hope that’s someone hijacking your handle, Mistic. Classless.
    =====================================
    Why? Because I spoke the truth about genetics? That’s not the garbage fang spews, and you know it.

    Another whitey trying to keep a brother down. Day of reckoning is coming, and coming soon.

  1300. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    CP went into Cinc and embarrassed himself, and every white qb who ever played the game.

    His record speaks for itself.
    Accept the fact he’s just not on the same level as the waves of the future.

    ***************

    exposed!

  1301. FreddieB Says:

    11 games of evidence.

    1282.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    The truth is though rgIII is not only more accurate, and a better decision maker, but he has a much stronger arm. also athletically rgIII can do things luck could never dream of if he was over dosed on laughing gas.

    lets be real here
    **************

    oh wait. i thought it was football, not the olympics.
    ==============================
    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    Nothing you can do about it.
    You came up short in the gene pool.
    See Carson Palmer for proof.

    ——————

    So, white people are both slow and stupid? Dammit!!!

    You know, this would would be a better place it you were on a different planet.

  1302. theghostronin79 Says:

    I think most people that criticize palmer only admit that he is a part of the problem here, going back to last year.
    ==================

    Well, if Palmer is part of the problem…He’s problem #50

    On a scale of 1 – 53…..#1 being most critical to address.

  1303. FreddieB Says:

    world

  1304. mcfadden20. Says:

    so We’re racists even after we want Pryor to succeed? even when he has shown nothing to us, millions of draft experts that he got what it takes to become a QB in the league, Mistic mention that RGIII is better than Luck despite the record but JC >> CP because of the record LMAO, and we’re racists? LMAO

  1305. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    Brahs, the Beeeech Diggity will be chillin’ tonight at Staples,

    *************

    i might believe he’d be at the office store, trying to make eye contact with chic in charge of calculators. pretty sure she would just call security though.

    ——–

    Hey Nob Muppet

    You sure disappeared for a long time after your last epic flame out. At my hands, of course.

    Before you scamper off again, tail between legs, did you ever tell your kids and dog about your hilarious new facebook page?

    Man, that was one of your most epic meltdowns ever. My Blog Brahs and I still have a sweet laugh over that one

    :)

  1306. M Lonetree Says:

    test drive all the D linemen you wish. D line ain’t the problem. Overmatched co-ordinators, MLB and CBs are.

    Greg Take-a-nap and his ZBS garbage has obviously been figured out by opposing d coaches. saw an interesting breakdown of man blocking recently. a hat on a hat freeing up the RBs vs ZBS that allows good non-Rolando LBs to float free.
    Can’t blame Uncle Wiz for seeking better things to do before the season started than to try to teach a useless system.

  1307. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    White Supre-macy is dead, hard as many of you try to keep it alive.
    Mods here: EXPOSED

    Majority of posters here: EXPOSED

    Power to the people. The real people. The deserved race.
    You know what I’m talking about.

    ***************

    yeah we’ve been telling u white supremacy is from the ’60’s for a long time.

    we’ve always known what ur talking about.

    u sound just like fangs.

    LOL! we finally made his brain explode!!!

  1308. RaiderLen Says:

    Run Run Jones was fast.

    Ask Howie. Very explosive of the sideline, even while carrying a load of water bottles.

    Legendary.

  1309. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    Nothing you can do about it.
    You came up short in the gene pool.
    See Carson Palmer for proof.

    *****************

    LOL! he did it! he finally just said it. and this guy claimed he wasn’t racist.

    and i bet i ran faster as a high schooler than u did pal. cuz i played safety for the #3 ranked high school team in the country.

    and i’m waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy smarter than u.

    see how the racist sounds EXACTLY like fangs?
    ——————————-
    Ignorant people are always the last to realize how ignorant they really are.

    Slow people, however, know full well they are bringing up the rear.
    You know what I’m talkin about.
    Oh, wait. Ignorance grasping ignorance?
    Not going to happen.

  1310. RaidingTexas Says:

    RaiderLen Says:

    I particularly liked the part about “slow thinking” however.

    ———————————–

    I guess once the “chosen race” completes its destiny, their revisionist historians will tell everyone that it wasn’t the “slow thinkers” who created lights, automated factories, cars, microprocessors, nuclear energy, routed networks, etc.

  1311. Raiderbuck Says:

    Raiders RapidReports ‏@CBSRaiders

    Raiders drop two spots to 31st in power rankings. Only Kansas City stands between them and dead last. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21154356/power-rankings-patriots-rounding-into-form-showdown-with-texans-looms

  1312. The Big Banana Says:

    You’re embarrassing yourself at this point, Mistic. Hope it’s just a troll hijacking your handle.

  1313. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    test drive all the D linemen you wish. D line ain’t the problem. Overmatched co-ordinators, MLB and CBs are.

    Greg Take-a-nap and his ZBS garbage has obviously been figured out by opposing d coaches. saw an interesting breakdown of man blocking recently. a hat on a hat freeing up the RBs vs ZBS that allows good non-Rolando LBs to float free.
    Can’t blame Uncle Wiz for seeking better things to do before the season started than to try to teach a useless system.
    ===================================
    A day late, and a dollar short.
    Way to grasp the obvious.
    What’s next? That Shell shouldn’t have hired Walsh?

  1314. mcfadden20. Says:

    LMAO Mist1c was exposed he resorted to those kinda insults, he’s mad

  1315. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c was having wonderful week, Sunday = Palmer lost and m1st1c was = :) Monday Cam won and M1st1c was :) today he gets exposed m1st1c is :( hahahaha Im loving this

  1316. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    You’re embarrassing yourself at this point, Mistic. Hope it’s just a troll hijacking your handle.
    ==================================
    Why is the truth embarrassing? Should we all shut our eyes to the injustices many of us face on a daily basis?
    Should I shut my eyes to make you feel better?

    Ok, it’s a troll, hijacking my handle.
    Is that what you want to hear?
    How does that change my message?

  1317. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    You sure disappeared for a long time after your last epic flame out. At my hands, of course.

    NEVER HAPPENED

    Before you scamper off again, tail between legs, did you ever tell your kids and dog about your hilarious new facebook page?

    U CLAIMED TO KARATE TO AVOID FIGHTING ME. HILARIOUS. LIKE EVERY SCARED LITTLE GEEK WHO EVER WAS BULLIED. MOM MUST BE SO PROUD OF HER LITTLE WHITE BELT!

    Man, that was one of your most epic meltdowns ever. My Blog Brahs and I still have a sweet laugh over that one

    U HAVE NO BLOG BRAHS OR REAL LIFE BRAHS. OBVIOUSLY.

  1318. SaintKaufman Says:

    Who cares M20? who cares…

  1319. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    the new reggie era of excellence….

  1320. M Lonetree Says:

    shell II shouldn’t have hired walsh. satisfied?

  1321. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Seymour Bush should be banned for his bad sense of humor
    ————————————–
    Did you ask permission to post, using my name?
    Don’t let it happen again, mama’s boy.
    —-
    I didn’t know you copyrighted your lame handle.

  1322. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    salary cap sirens…..go!

  1323. mcfadden20. Says:

    Who wants to draft Damontre Moore?

  1324. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Ignorant people are always the last to realize how ignorant they really are.

    Slow people, however, know full well they are bringing up the rear.
    YOU KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT
    Oh, wait. Ignorance grasping ignorance?
    Not going to happen.
    *****************

    it’s beech. see the phrase? obvious.

  1325. mcfadden20. Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    salary cap sirens…..go!

    What’s good Oakfoshow?

  1326. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hey guys. That’s not my comments. Those are probably McFairy’s, hacking my account.
    Ignorant white people don’t know when to stop.
    A 2×4 upside his head just makes him slower to think, so that options out.
    Get a life, McFairy.

  1327. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Ignorant people are always the last to realize how ignorant they really are.

    Slow people, however, know full well they are bringing up the rear.
    YOU KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT
    Oh, wait. Ignorance grasping ignorance?
    Not going to happen.
    *****************

    it’s beech. see the phrase? obvious.


    Who cares, what did i tell you guys? he will change the topic when he starts getting exposed in his qb arguments

  1328. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Why is the truth embarrassing? Should we all shut our eyes to the injustices many of us face on a daily basis?

    *************

    we suffer injustice every day when u appear.

  1329. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Remember peckerwoods, he who laughs last, thinks slowest.

  1330. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    babin on his way….

  1331. The_Judge37 Says:

    I blame Steve Corkran’s laziness for the deterioration of this blog. No wonder they gave Jerry McDonald the print job

  1332. dr_robert Says:

    missdick, beech, and fangs. the three stooges. if they can’t get banned, who the heck did?

  1333. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c is mad cuz i brought up Luck is leading his teams to playoffs in first year while Cam struggling to win 5 games

  1334. The Big Banana Says:

    That’s not Mistic, fellas.

  1335. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, decided to pack the PARTYDUDE 8000 into the tour van for tonight’s Lake Show game

    Probably park it over at Nokia, party down serious in the parking lot (always a ton of hot cholas cruising around looking to 69) and smoke a few bowls on my new skateboard bong

    Definitely hit up ESPN Zone on the way in, the Beeech Diggs never walks out of there with less than 5 phone numbers

    Last time I hooked up with this Erin Andrews look-alike back at the Ritz

    Shorty had a bangin’ bod, but had to show her the front door when she tried to get me in on a SKYPE session with her therapist

    WRECKS N FULL EFFECT

  1336. dr_robert Says:

    no, i don’t think it is either. too obvious. he prides himself on hiding his racism. or so he thinks.

  1337. Just Fire Baby Says:

    he who laughs last, thinks slowest.

    ************************

    LOL……I think I kind of like that one

  1338. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    Remember peckerwoods, he who laughs last, thinks slowest.
    ———————————
    Ha! That’s actually funny.

  1339. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    no, i don’t think it is either. too obvious. he prides himself on hiding his racism. or so he thinks.

    Ofcourse, he prides himself on hiding his racism that’s why he accused me of hijacking his handle lol

  1340. dr_robert Says:

    what life must a guy lead to want to come in here and be an irritating azz and that’s fun for him? could there be a bigger loser?

  1341. dr_robert Says:

    no–mistic’s best two contributions to the blog have been:

    golden haired hero

    space-age attack

    just precious.

  1342. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    what life must a guy lead to want to come in here and be an irritating azz and that’s fun for him? could there be a bigger loser?

    This was really predictable he bring up other kinda sh1t right when he starts getting exposed

  1343. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    That’s not Mistic, fellas.
    ===========================
    I just said it wasn’t me, because that’s what makes you feel better.
    When the message is over your head, it’s easier to pretend the message isn’t valid.
    It’s what your race has been doing for centuries.
    To hell with both of you. I won’t put my head in the sand and stop believing in my message.

  1344. FreddieB Says:

    Maybe Mistic is right that we are slow of thought. We take the time to read and respond to his posts. On second thought, that might go beyond just being slow and border on mental illness.

  1345. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Cross posters are the lowest form of vermin.

  1346. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    no–mistic’s best two contributions to the blog have been:

    golden haired hero

    space-age attack

    just precious.

    You must have missed his post where he said that you, me and Raider E are same person ,1. because we were talking about football 2. because we were agreeing on most of the subjects like we need a pass rusher, #1 WR, and others, can you believe this guy ? LMAO

  1347. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    no, i don’t think it is either. too obvious. he prides himself on hiding his racism. or so he thinks.
    =======================================
    That’s the problem. You don’t think. Ever.
    Was my White Supre-macy an act? Hidden?
    No, you just chose to be blind to your history.

  1348. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Ignorant people are always the last to realize how ignorant they really are.

    Slow people, however, know full well they are bringing up the rear.
    YOU KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT
    Oh, wait. Ignorance grasping ignorance?
    Not going to happen.
    *****************

    it’s beech. see the phrase? obvious.

    ——-

    Oh awesome … It’s another one of Nob’s blog CLASSICS – striking out on identifying cross posters!

    Nerd, me and my Brahs can’t get enough of this one. Always blows up in your face, then you run off crying to your JV football team

    See, there’s a good reason why you’re still the “Official Blog Punching Bag” – you’ve earned it, and then some ;)

    HOLLA BACK YOUNG MC

  1349. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    That’s not Mistic, fellas.
    ===========================
    I just said it wasn’t me, because that’s what makes you feel better.
    When the message is over your head, it’s easier to pretend the message isn’t valid.
    It’s what your race has been doing for centuries.
    To hell with both of you. I won’t put my head in the sand and stop believing in my message.

    So why are so bitter, lets say we’re all slow white dudes in here lmao why would you go chat up with your intelligent black folks?>

  1350. The Big Banana Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    The Big Banana Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    That’s not Mistic, fellas.
    ===========================
    I just said it wasn’t me, because that’s what makes you feel better.
    When the message is over your head, it’s easier to pretend the message isn’t valid.
    It’s what your race has been doing for centuries.
    To hell with both of you. I won’t put my head in the sand and stop believing in my message.

    ——

    Time to call it a day. You put in a nice day’s work for a troll, but you need to study up on Mistic’s style.

  1351. mcfadden20. Says:

    why won’t you

  1352. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    FreddieB Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Maybe Mistic is right that we are slow of thought. We take the time to read and respond to his posts. On second thought, that might go beyond just being slow and border on mental illness.
    ==============================
    You not only took the time to read, but then took the time to sign on, just to post to me.
    I should charge this board for my valuable insight.
    someone has to wake you up.

  1353. mcfadden20. Says:

    Why does M1st1c like to waste his time with us slow thinkers LMAO

  1354. mcfadden20. Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AevJEqqVIU

    This should help calm you down M1st1c

  1355. mcfadden20. Says:

    Where did everyone go ? Is everyone busy chatting up with cork?

  1356. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    i have always said luck is one of my favorite young qbs and i had him 2nd to rgIII coming out of college

    *******************

    You had him as the 3rd best rookie QB behind Russell Wilson, two weeks into the season.
    =================

    i luck 2 wilson 2a, i gave luck the ever so slight edge because of his size

  1357. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Nerd, me and my Brahs can’t get enough of this one. Always blows up in your face, then you run off crying to your JV football team

    U HAVE NO BLOG BRAHS. NO ONE HERE LIKES U. MY JV TEAM?

    See, there’s a good reason why you’re still the “Official Blog Punching Bag” – you’ve earned it, and then some

    DUDE, U TAKE WAAAAAYYYYYY MORE ABUSE THAN ANYONE HERE OUTSIDE OF MISTIC. COUNTLESS POSTERS MAKE FUN OF U.

    U HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID A THING THAT MADE ME LOOK BAD. NOT ONCE. BUT I HAVE MADE U LOOK LIKE THE IDIOTIC GAY-CENTRIC MORON U ARE. WE ALL LAUGH AT U.

  1358. Seymour Bush Says:

    This isn’t the first time Mistic has done this.
    Posts racist rants, then comes back a little later, laughing as he says that wasn’t him, but takes the time to comment on what he previously said.

    has his own agenda to keep negative vibes flowing.

  1359. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    Who wants to draft Damontre Moore?
    ——————-

    is that the DE from A&M?

  1360. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Nerd, me and my Brahs can’t get enough of this one. Always blows up in your face, then you run off crying to your JV football team

    U HAVE NO BLOG BRAHS. NO ONE HERE LIKES U. MY JV TEAM?

    See, there’s a good reason why you’re still the “Official Blog Punching Bag” – you’ve earned it, and then some

    DUDE, U TAKE WAAAAAYYYYYY MORE ABUSE THAN ANYONE HERE OUTSIDE OF MISTIC. COUNTLESS POSTERS MAKE FUN OF U.

    U HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID A THING THAT MADE ME LOOK BAD. NOT ONCE. BUT I HAVE MADE U LOOK LIKE THE IDIOTIC GAY-CENTRIC MORON U ARE. WE ALL LAUGH AT U.

    ————–

    Uh Oh … MELTDOWN

    Nob Muppet, this is so great that you’re posting in all caps. Really helps us visualize the sweat dripping down your brow and your hands shaking, holla

    So easy to smack you sideways, get that muppet head on a swivel

    Please, don’t ever change.

    Your Pals,
    The PM Party Patrol

  1361. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I dont think thats Mistic.

  1362. dr_robert Says:

    beech, missdick, and fangs. the most reviled, most humiliated, most fun bloggers ever. it’s always nice to have a little stooge to pick on. a bit sadistic, but these guys really deserve it. oh, and sullivan of course.

    let’s see:

    sullivan=mo (the leader)
    beech=larry (i imagine similar hair styles)
    fangs=curly (u know he’s a fat baldie)
    missdick=shemp (kind of an outsider/slapped a lot)

  1363. mcfadden20. Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    Who wants to draft Damontre Moore?
    ——————-

    is that the DE from A&M?

    —-

    YUP

  1364. mcfadden20. Says:

    Yeah i don’t think it’s Mist1c, M1st1c loves all color guys, he doesn’t have agenda against certain players because of their skin colors

  1365. KoolKell Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    what life must a guy lead to want to come in here and be an irritating azz and that’s fun for him? could there be a bigger loser?
    —————–
    Fools like you who copy and paste his posts all day everyday. Loser Cross poster

  1366. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Nerd, me and my Brahs can’t get enough of this one. Always blows up in your face, then you run off crying to your JV football team

    U HAVE NO BLOG BRAHS. NO ONE HERE LIKES U. MY JV TEAM?

    See, there’s a good reason why you’re still the “Official Blog Punching Bag” – you’ve earned it, and then some

    DUDE, U TAKE WAAAAAYYYYYY MORE ABUSE THAN ANYONE HERE OUTSIDE OF MISTIC. COUNTLESS POSTERS MAKE FUN OF U.

    U HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID A THING THAT MADE ME LOOK BAD. NOT ONCE. BUT I HAVE MADE U LOOK LIKE THE IDIOTIC GAY-CENTRIC MORON U ARE. WE ALL LAUGH AT U.

    ————–

    Uh Oh … MELTDOWN

    Nob Muppet, this is so great that you’re posting in all caps. Really helps us visualize the sweat dripping down your brow and your hands shaking, holla

    So easy to smack you sideways, get that muppet head on a swivel

    Please, don’t ever change.

    Your Pals,
    The PM Party Patrol

    ****************

    well put dummy. i like how u sign it “your pals, the party patrol”, and it’s just u. that’s pretty accurate.

    please explain this meltdown thing u like to say. what exactly did i say that constitutes a meltdown? am i having one now?

  1367. Reggiehater Says:

    891.Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    Cork sent me a personal email this morning and says even though he agrees with absolutly everything I say,I should tone it down just a small tad.He is trying to get me a press pass for Friday cause he has never heard such an intelligent Raider fan in his life.So get your popcorn ready for Friday cause I’m gonna turn that motha out.WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    FOSHO!!!

  1368. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c say everthing like it is , He judge all people by their experience or their wins

  1369. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    what life must a guy lead to want to come in here and be an irritating azz and that’s fun for him? could there be a bigger loser?
    —————–
    Fools like you who copy and paste his posts all day everyday. Loser Cross poster

    *************

    ahhh, grady woke up.

    cross poster.

  1370. mcfadden20. Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    what life must a guy lead to want to come in here and be an irritating azz and that’s fun for him? could there be a bigger loser?
    —————–
    Fools like you who copy and paste his posts all day everyday. Loser Cross poster

    —-
    LOL KOOL KELL OLD IRRELEVANT FOOL

  1371. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Dang, Brahs. The Beeeech Diggity Dawg just done it again

    Yours truly just recorded a seriously dope hip-hop jam in my penthouse studio, the track is bangin’

    All I did was puff a mad blunt, gave a heavenly shout out to Biggie Smalls, then the lyrics just started flowin’ from deez lipz

    Ahhh, hellz yeah

    This joint is all about my massive ding dong and the ladies who would kill to worship beneath it’s shadow

    I’ll drop some lyrics on the blog right after I finish flossing dem molars

    ORAL HYGIENE IN THE HOUSE

  1372. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    Who wants to draft Damontre Moore?
    ——————-

    is that the DE from A&M?

    —-

    YUP
    ———–

    if we cant trade down and aquire more picks than yeah I draft that guy, led SEC in sacks, thats impressive havent seen him play but he sounds good.

  1373. dr_robert Says:

    probably asleep in his chair, snoring, then “wha? huh? who? blah blah……zzzzzzz”

  1374. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    Dang, Brahs. The Beeeech Diggity Dawg just done it again

    Yours truly just recorded a seriously dope hip-hop jam in my penthouse studio, the track is bangin’

    All I did was puff a mad blunt, gave a heavenly shout out to Biggie Smalls, then the lyrics just started flowin’ from deez lipz

    Ahhh, hellz yeah

    This joint is all about my massive ding dong and the ladies who would kill to worship beneath it’s shadow

    I’ll drop some lyrics on the blog right after I finish flossing dem molars

    ORAL HYGIENE IN THE HOUSE

    ***************

    uh oh. meltdown city!

  1375. dr_robert Says:

    why does beech have so many meltdowns?

  1376. Reggiehater Says:

    Bring back oakfosho by popular demand.

  1377. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Seriously, you guys following Mistics every post is pretty lame. I just ignore him I see his agenda.

  1378. dr_robert Says:

    anyone notice the fake missdick disappeared after beech showed up?

  1379. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    LMAO!!!!’

    Luck isnt on the same planet as rgIII folks\

    you guys kknow you can look this stuff up before you post right?

    Luck 56.8 cmp% 18tds (includes 5 rushing) 21 turnovers

    RGIII 67.5 cmp % 22tds (includes 6 rushing) 9 turnover

    So as you can plainly see rgIII has better cmp% more tds and less than half the turnovers

    Read it digest it and hate it as you love to do

  1380. dr_robert Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    Seriously, you guys following Mistics every post is pretty lame. I just ignore him I see his agenda.
    **********************

    ur racist!

    oh sorry. knee jerk reaction.

  1381. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    LMAO!!!!’

    Luck isnt on the same planet as rgIII folks\

    you guys kknow you can look this stuff up before you post right?

    Luck 56.8 cmp% 18tds (includes 5 rushing) 21 turnovers

    RGIII 67.5 cmp % 22tds (includes 6 rushing) 9 turnover

    So as you can plainly see rgIII has better cmp% more tds and less than half the turnovers

    Read it digest it and hate it as you love to do
    **************

    and less wins!!! great job missdick! ur “showing improvement”.

  1382. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    LMAO!!!!’

    Luck isnt on the same planet as rgIII folks\

    you guys kknow you can look this stuff up before you post right?

    Luck 56.8 cmp% 18tds (includes 5 rushing) 21 turnovers

    RGIII 67.5 cmp % 22tds (includes 6 rushing) 9 turnover

    So as you can plainly see rgIII has better cmp% more tds and less than half the turnovers

    Read it digest it and hate it as you love to do

    I thought Wins were the only thing that mattered and only things people care about? NO, No?

  1383. Sullivan44 Says:

    A racially charged argument at IBA’s Raider blog over rookie QBs. Yep. Another Raider season ends in November.

  1384. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Nerd, me and my Brahs can’t get enough of this one. Always blows up in your face, then you run off crying to your JV football team

    U HAVE NO BLOG BRAHS. NO ONE HERE LIKES U. MY JV TEAM?

    See, there’s a good reason why you’re still the “Official Blog Punching Bag” – you’ve earned it, and then some

    DUDE, U TAKE WAAAAAYYYYYY MORE ABUSE THAN ANYONE HERE OUTSIDE OF MISTIC. COUNTLESS POSTERS MAKE FUN OF U.

    U HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID A THING THAT MADE ME LOOK BAD. NOT ONCE. BUT I HAVE MADE U LOOK LIKE THE IDIOTIC GAY-CENTRIC MORON U ARE. WE ALL LAUGH AT U.

    ————–

    Uh Oh … MELTDOWN

    Nob Muppet, this is so great that you’re posting in all caps. Really helps us visualize the sweat dripping down your brow and your hands shaking, holla

    So easy to smack you sideways, get that muppet head on a swivel

    Please, don’t ever change.

    Your Pals,
    The PM Party Patrol

    ****************

    well put dummy. i like how u sign it “your pals, the party patrol”, and it’s just u. that’s pretty accurate.

    please explain this meltdown thing u like to say. what exactly did i say that constitutes a meltdown? am i having one now?

    ————

    Totally epic, Nob

    After my beatdown you quickly ditch the caps and try to cover up your hilarious MELTDOWN. Sorry Goober, didn’t work.

    Keep squirming, Muppet. Free laughs for me and all my brahs, just keepin’ it real

    PMPP N FULL EFFECT

  1385. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Mc20 i’ve also been tracking the mock drafts some have us taking the DE out of FSU, but I’m not really feeln that guy.

  1386. Reggiehater Says:

    I’ll have you fellers know that I just ordered a Streater jersey. FOSHO

  1387. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    rgiii 5 wins
    luck 7 wins

    for those keeping score, wins and losses are the basis of your cp v jc argument correct?
    ================

    even though i have answered this a million times

    I preferred jc because of the wins and the fact that he protected the ball

    I look at the big picture not just stats not just win totals

    you should try it

  1388. Sullivan44 Says:

    Gruden sounds like a great idea right now. But a GM should get 3 years. It should be Reggie’s decision.

  1389. dr_robert Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    A racially charged argument at IBA’s Raider blog over rookie QBs. Yep. Another Raider season ends in November.

    ************

    and suddenly he’s back. the original idiot with no life. a total azzhole who loves abuse.

    we didn’t miss u moron.

  1390. mcfadden20. Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Mc20 i’ve also been tracking the mock drafts some have us taking the DE out of FSU, but I’m not really feeln that guy.

    Oh I’m not either man, I’m with Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M all the way can play both End spots in 4-3, can play end in 3-4, and can even line up as OLB in 3-4, got great combo’s of pass rushing skills, is good against the run too, and has motor like Lamar Houston

  1391. Reggiehater Says:

    Reggies not capable of makeing decisions.Check our players and record.DUH! FOSHO

  1392. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    Seriously, you guys following Mistics every post is pretty lame. I just ignore him I see his agenda.
    **********************

    ur racist!

    oh sorry. knee jerk reaction.
    ————–

    You know I’m not a racist Rob and I know your not.

  1393. Sullivan44 Says:

    A lot of Raider fans were willing to give Al Davis a 9th season after 8 straight seasons without a winning record, and were arguing vehemently in his favor. I’m giving Reggie 3 years. Would my support for Reggie be stubborn in some way compared to the support Al received, after going so long without a winning season?

  1394. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    i want him to succeed, if i was a Black QB hater like you said

    ===============

    keep trying to lie folks you dont want him to succeed

    I didnt say ‘you were a black qb hater” ….you did

    “black qbs suck”

    Hate to break the news to you but pryor is also black

  1395. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Totally epic, Nob

    After my beatdown you quickly ditch the caps and try to cover up your hilarious MELTDOWN. Sorry Goober, didn’t work.

    Keep squirming, Muppet. Free laughs for me and all my brahs, just keepin’ it real

    PMPP N FULL EFFECT
    *************

    the caps were to differentiate between ur words and mine stupid. and u use caps at the end of urs every time, so i guess ur calling urself an idiot.

    and i like how u never answer. always the weasel.

    and again, u have no friends. no one likes u here. of course, u know this.

    uh oh. another meltdown. wait. i don’t think u know what that word means do u? do u think it means when i make u look stupid?

  1396. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    rgiii 5 wins
    luck 7 wins

    for those keeping score, wins and losses are the basis of your cp v jc argument correct?
    ================

    even though i have answered this a million times

    I preferred jc because of the wins and the fact that he protected the ball

    I look at the big picture not just stats not just win totals

    you should try it

    What is the big picture??? LMAO, Washington gave up kings ransom to draft RGIII, it’s a failure so far and if he doesn’t lead them to SB in next 2 years, it will go down as worst trade ever in any major sport

  1397. Seymour Bush Says:

    Lil Biachi is back posting as me? Oh man, dudette really sucks. I think it is hilarious. I really broke her.

  1398. Reggiehater Says:

    racist racist troll troll troll troll racist racist troll hes a racist hes a troll.2 biggest words used on this blog except for ROD STREATER TO THE PROBOWL.

  1399. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    i want him to succeed, if i was a Black QB hater like you said

    ===============

    keep trying to lie folks you dont want him to succeed

    I didnt say ‘you were a black qb hater” ….you did

    “black qbs suck”

    Hate to break the news to you but pryor is also black

    Oh so i don’t like black qbs and i can’t just predict that Pryor would fail , like seriously i would be scared to do that, since every body in the world have predicted his calling is at some certain position?

  1400. cwolfman Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    cork is hilarious still trying to sell the notion that palmer has validated the trade?!?!?!

    even in the face of a 7-14 record and 35 putrid turnovers?!?!/1

    that is worth a 1st and a second and a ton of cash?!?!?

    Lol media beat writers are quick to seize on perceived folly of al davis, yet they wont admit their own mistakes.

    cork…….EXPOSED!
    =============================================

    Mistic1,

    I honestly throw last years numbers out the window when it comes to Palmer… Barely any QB could have come into the situation he came into last season, from sitting on his butt and no preseason, and being thrown out to play without even knowing the playbook, and done well. I prefer to only look at his stats this season… 3-8, 18 TDS, 12 INTs, 3181 YDS. He is currently rated #8 out of all the QBs in the NFL.

    DO I think he is incredible? Am I saying he is the best QB? No… and… No. But, what I am saying is, he is the least of our problems, and is very very low on the list of reasons why this team is loosing like it is. Quite frankly, if we had a better D, and not a crap O line with a running game, his numbers would be tons better.

  1401. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    rgiii 5 wins
    luck 7 wins

    for those keeping score, wins and losses are the basis of your cp v jc argument correct?
    ================

    even though i have answered this a million times

    I preferred jc because of the wins and the fact that he protected the ball

    I look at the big picture not just stats not just win totals

    you should try it

    ***************

    in other words, u can’t be pinned down. u will base it on whatever makes ur guy look good and palmer look bad right?

    it’s about wins and turnovers with palmer.

    but it’s not about that with black qb’s like newton. for him, it’s about escapability, and he has a poor line and nobody is nice to him, or some stupidity. ur a slippery little snake.

  1402. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    A lot of Raider fans were willing to give Al Davis a 9th season after 8 straight seasons without a winning record, and were arguing vehemently in his favor. I’m giving Reggie 3 years. Would my support for Reggie be stubborn in some way compared to the support Al received, after going so long without a winning season?
    —————————————
    Reggie will get 3 for sure.

    Al made His bones and was given the benefit of doubt.

    Wish the Old Man could have grabbed another ring before he left.

  1403. mcfadden20. Says:

    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    racist racist troll troll troll troll racist racist troll hes a racist hes a troll.2 biggest words used on this blog except for ROD STREATER TO THE PROBOWL.

    HAHAHA AL IS THE RAIDERS = OAKFOSHOW back

  1404. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t believe one could tell whether or not a GM is capable of making decisions until the GM has had 3 years. Al Davis made some horrific decisions in the 8 season span between 2003 and 2010, yet many Raider fans still insisted he was capable of making good decisions going into 2011. So, some fans gave our previous GM a decade to get it right. I’m giving Reggie 3 years.

  1405. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
    Reggies not capable of makeing decisions.Check our players and record.DUH! FOSHO
    —————–

    OAKFASHO.

  1406. dr_robert Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    Seriously, you guys following Mistics every post is pretty lame. I just ignore him I see his agenda.
    **********************

    ur racist!

    oh sorry. knee jerk reaction.
    ————–

    You know I’m not a racist Rob and I know your not.

    ***************

    i know. it was a joke.

  1407. dr_robert Says:

    beech/sullivan changing handles? they’ll be right back any second with a “supporter/blog brah”.

  1408. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    Nothing you can do about it.
    You came up short in the gene pool.
    See Carson Palmer for proof.
    ========

    i did not post this some one has hijacked my handle again.

    they do this to make me appear other than who i really am.

    Football is a game and skin color makes no difference when playing qb

    ask johhny football or warren mmon

  1409. dr_robert Says:

    LOL! i just created a great little play on words there.

    beech’s blog brahs are in reality his blog bras (boob supporter).

    i made a funny.

  1410. mcfadden20. Says:

    So let’s see Mist1c says he doesn’t hate white qb’s but have no problem every game of Palmer’s life the as (legacy game) and hope he lose it so he can come in and tell us i told you so,

    but he said I’m black qb hater even when i want Pryor to do well and prove everyone wrong , even after all the experts predicted he’s not a qb and will never succeed

  1411. Reggiehater Says:

    You’s guy’s missed me.AAAAAAAHHH. fosho

  1412. dr_robert Says:

    missdick–we don’t actually care about color. u do.

  1413. RaiderLen Says:

    Warren Moon was a perfect fit for AL and the Old school Raiders.

  1414. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mctenandthen is still in here? man it must svck to be you…

  1415. dr_robert Says:

    oh, the legacy game!

    that was missdick’s third great idiotic contribution to the blog.

    our golden haired hero

    space-age attack (my favorite)

    legacy game

    isn’t he cute? and he’s all ours!

  1416. dr_robert Says:

    hmmm. mistic was gone. sullivan arrived. and beech. they disappeared and now mistic is back.

    told ya!

  1417. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    LMAO!!!!’

    Luck isnt on the same planet as rgIII folks\

    you guys kknow you can look this stuff up before you post right?

    Luck 56.8 cmp% 18tds (includes 5 rushing) 21 turnovers

    RGIII 67.5 cmp % 22tds (includes 6 rushing) 9 turnover

    So as you can plainly see rgIII has better cmp% more tds and less than half the turnovers

    Read it digest it and hate it as you love to do

    I thought Wins were the only thing that mattered and only things people care about? NO, No?
    ======

    i never said that though

    I said wins AND TD TO TURN OVER that is how i judge qbs

    both are on awful teams both are soley responsible for making the teams better. Only 2 wins separate them at this point so it is negligible.

    Not a shockingly dramatic drop off like the difference between 12-7 23 turn overs(jc)

    and 7-14 35 turnovers (palmer)

    stop obsessing over my qb post and learn football

  1418. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    missdick–we don’t actually care about color. u do.

    We hate black QB’s in his eyes even after we want Pryor to do well, when we can easily be like him and predict Pryor won’t even make it in the NFL (like everyone in this world have said except him and TJpriest) and we could be 99% right and come back and rub it in his face? LMAO

  1419. Reggiehater Says:

    The king is here to stay.The mayor.The man.The head cheese.The head honcho.Numero uno.

  1420. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Why is the truth embarrassing? Should we all shut our eyes to the injustices many of us face on a daily basis?

    *************

    we suffer injustice every day when u appear.
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Remember peckerwoods, he who laughs last, thinks slowest.
    ===============

    i did not post any of this either

  1421. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    racist racist troll troll troll troll racist racist troll hes a racist hes a troll.2 biggest words used on this blog except for ROD STREATER TO THE PROBOWL.
    ——
    Now we know who got banned and came back under a different handle.

  1422. dr_robert Says:

    he won’t believe we like pryor. he has to believe we are white supremacists (even though ur sikh) or else his argument fails.

  1423. Sullivan44 Says:

    Here were some more “perfect fits” for Al’s Raiders:

    - Joe Bugel

    - Norv Turner

    - Warren Sapp

    - Randy Moss

    - Art Shell Redux

    - Lane Kiffin

    - JaMarcus Russell

    - Tom Cable (”In Cable We Trust!!!”)

    All were called a “perfect fit” into Al’s system when they were brought in. Just saying.

  1424. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    LMAO!!!!’

    Luck isnt on the same planet as rgIII folks\

    you guys kknow you can look this stuff up before you post right?

    Luck 56.8 cmp% 18tds (includes 5 rushing) 21 turnovers

    RGIII 67.5 cmp % 22tds (includes 6 rushing) 9 turnover

    So as you can plainly see rgIII has better cmp% more tds and less than half the turnovers

    Read it digest it and hate it as you love to do

    I thought Wins were the only thing that mattered and only things people care about? NO, No?
    ======

    i never said that though

    I said wins AND TD TO TURN OVER that is how i judge qbs

    both are on awful teams both are soley responsible for making the teams better. Only 2 wins separate them at this point so it is negligible.

    Not a shockingly dramatic drop off like the difference between 12-7 23 turn overs(jc)

    and 7-14 35 turnovers (palmer)

    stop obsessing over my qb post and learn football

    Uh yeah Griffin should be undefeated at this point and not be out of playoffs for kings ransom washington gave up for him just to move up 4 spots, while Colts just used their original pick and drafted LUCk and he’s onto his way to playoffs

  1425. dr_robert Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    racist racist troll troll troll troll racist racist troll hes a racist hes a troll.2 biggest words used on this blog except for ROD STREATER TO THE PROBOWL.
    ——
    Now we know who got banned and came back under a different handle.
    ************

    who?

  1426. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    lmao at streater to the pro bowl! And the real funny thing is they actually believed it….

  1427. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    RaidingTexas Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    It’s genetics.
    Don’t you wonder why you run so slow? Think slowly?
    Wonder why people like RGIII, Cam, TP appear so bright?

    ———————————

    LMAO! Somebody please tell Tom Brady and Peyton Manning that slow QBs suck and will never make it in the NFL.
    ============================
    You ever see them run? The slowest black player is faster than the fastest white player.

    It’s the chosen race, that is destined to excel. The wave of the future is here. Yes, I am part of that wave, like it or not.
    ===================

    these are not my post either

  1428. dr_robert Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Here were some more “perfect fits” for Al’s Raiders:

    - Joe Bugel

    - Norv Turner

    - Warren Sapp

    - Randy Moss

    - Art Shell Redux

    - Lane Kiffin

    - JaMarcus Russell

    - Tom Cable (”In Cable We Trust!!!”)

    All were called a “perfect fit” into Al’s system when they were brought in. Just saying.

    *************

    dude ur act is so 2011. ur just boring now. ur other handles are more fun. ur like the kiddie pool now. too easy.

  1429. R8ER MIKE Says:

    1400 posts. WTF. is this the off season.
    how about some new news

  1430. Reggiehater Says:

    Yall should see the blistering email I received from Cork this morning.Wow.He sinse has said he is sorry.I dont blame him.Scared ya know? FOSHO

  1431. Seymour Bush Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    racist racist troll troll troll troll racist racist troll hes a racist hes a troll.2 biggest words used on this blog except for ROD STREATER TO THE PROBOWL.
    ——
    Now we know who got banned and came back under a different handle.
    ==========================================

    There were a couple of posters who were posting swill and next thing you know they are posting “test test”. On to a proxy site they went. Certainly the “aryan” idiot got banned. That I know.

  1432. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    he won’t believe we like pryor. he has to believe we are white supremacists (even though ur sikh) or else his argument fails.

    Yup we could predict Pryor flopping and never making it in the NFL as QB, and would more than likely be correct and come back and rub it in face, if that’s what we really want LMAO and he has problem with us hoping for the best from Pryor , like seriously ? LMAO, he’s always good for laughs, time for football talk

  1433. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    racist racist troll troll troll troll racist racist troll hes a racist hes a troll.2 biggest words used on this blog except for ROD STREATER TO THE PROBOWL.
    ——
    Now we know who got banned and came back under a different handle.
    ************

    who?
    —–
    Oakofshow

  1434. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, after easily leading Nob Muppet into another enjoyable MELTDOWN, the Beeeech Dawg celebrated with a 2x cheese from Papa John’s and a Zima

    Ahhhh yeah, let’s get that crust EXTRA crispy, word

    But on a serious note, homies, please don’t write Cork to ban to my loyal minion

    He gives us great laughs and is always there to absorb any of our dope uppercuts. The gift that just keeps on giving, you know what time it is

    Anyway, do what you please, but let it be known that the Beeeech Diggity Dawg supports keeping the minion around for our enjoyment

    We’ll be rewarded with MELTDOWN after MELTDOWN after MELTDOWN … (on the real tip)

  1435. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Reggiehater Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Yall should see the blistering email I received from Cork this morning.Wow.He sinse has said he is sorry.I dont blame him.Scared ya know? FOSHO
    ——
    My names Reggiehater. People call me Reggiehater.

  1436. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Mistic someone is trying hard to get you banned.

  1437. dr_robert Says:

    btw, sullivan is doing the “i’ll post from different handles within minutes of each other so they can’t say i’m both of them” thing. let’s see how long he can keep it up. one of them will disappear soon. i’m guessing sullivan since he’s yesterday’s news. or else mistic will have to go somewhere. but i hope it’s missdick who stays. he’s much more fun these days. sully’s just been beaten to death.

  1438. RaiderLen Says:

    Mcfadden20,

    Why not give the “Feud” a rest?

    Let the bone go man.

    People tune out to the constant bickering.

    I scroll past most of what you and mistic post.

    It’s old, tired, and worn out.

  1439. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    now its criner to the pro bowl…and before that burris to the pro bowl rookie of the year stuff! lol…you people are freakin funny….

  1440. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Fellas, why do you insist on feeding into this guys bitter outlook of people and the world?
    ===============

    how does admitting that palmer hasn’t delivered posting a 7-14 record with 35 turnovers equal me “living in a bitter world”

    so if a criticize branch or romac is that also off limits or just the qb?

    hmmmmm

  1441. JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Mont Bleu is dead on Tuesdays,..cards dont come out until tomorrow,…but I have my four team parlay ready to go,…anyway why I popped in for a sec is this,…the Niners will release Alex Smith in about three months,…he wil be your next Raider QB, and I am all for it,…perfect fit…perfect,..smart, mobile, rolls out great,..tough,…he will go off in the ZBS,..just get a decent RB and we are respectable,…it will happen, he will be a Raider. Ok, cya. (feel free to discuss)

  1442. inonewordraider Says:

    even though i have answered this a million times

    I preferred jc because of the wins and the fact that he protected the ball

    I look at the big picture not just stats not just win totals

    you should try it
    ____________
    don’t get mad at me, get mad at every gm in the league that had a chance to sign him as their starter after last year, and the ones that won’t sign him as their starter after this year.

    that far outweighs your fuzzy math

  1443. dr_robert Says:

    beech–who are u talking to?

  1444. Reggiehater Says:

    Back by popular demand. son.fosho

  1445. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    SaintKaufman Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Fellas, why do you insist on feeding into this guys bitter outlook of people and the world?
    ===============

    how does admitting that palmer hasn’t delivered posting a 7-14 record with 35 turnovers equal me “living in a bitter world”

    so if a criticize branch or romac is that also off limits or just the qb?

    hmmmmm

    ***************

    that’s the thing dummy. the team sucks. palmer is their best player. and all u ever talk about is palmer/pryor. u clearly have no insight about the team.

  1446. Seymour Bush Says:

    lil biachi just mumbles incoherently. I’ve seen it before. It’s the lst step toward complete psychosis.

  1447. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c is already exposed, no need to embarrass him even further today, let’s talk football

  1448. dr_robert Says:

    but also because we only want to criticize black players and people. it’s part of our white supremacy (u misuse the word all the time).

  1449. Seymour Bush Says:

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Mont Bleu is dead on Tuesdays,..cards dont come out until tomorrow,…but I have my four team parlay ready to go,…anyway why I popped in for a sec is this,…the Niners will release Alex Smith in about three months,…he wil be your next Raider QB, and I am all for it,…perfect fit…perfect,..smart, mobile, rolls out great,..tough,…he will go off in the ZBS,..just get a decent RB and we are respectable,…it will happen, he will be a Raider. Ok, cya. (feel free to discuss)
    =========================================

    Then there would go Pryor.

  1450. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Andrew Luck also leads the NFL in longest average attempted pass from the line of scrimmage. Basically he pushes it down the field further than anyone in the league.

    —————————-

    Funny how our OC likes the horizontal passing game. Think about it. We go sideways for -1 yard and it is still in the script. And DA endorses that kind of sh*t. Simply breathtaking.

  1451. mcfadden20. Says:

    And if you guys haven’t figured this out yet oakfoshow = al is the raiders

  1452. RaiderLen Says:

    All were called a “perfect fit” into Al’s system when they were brought in. Just saying.
    ——————————————–
    IMO, Moon would have been a perfect fit.

    Moss as well.

    To bad about Moss.

  1453. Reggiehater Says:

    Oakfosho,I mean big balls will be at the presser Friday.Get your popcorn ready.Reggie will answer my questions or else.

  1454. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mac 20 you are desperate

    no one cares or subscribes to your theory about a supposed time table for griffin and the superbowl.

    he isnt the first qb that a team moved up for in the draft, and there was no time table for them either.

    RGIII will be (if he remains healthy) THE GREATEST REDSKIN IN THE HISTORY OF THAT ORG….BOOK IT

    he is already having the greatest rookie qb season and one of the top ten redskin qb seasons in that franchises history

  1455. Raider O Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Mcfadden20,

    Why not give the “Feud” a rest?

    Let the bone go man.

    People tune out to the constant bickering.

    I scroll past most of what you and mistic post.

    It’s old, tired, and worn out.
    $$$$$$$$$

    Exactly.
    It’s pathetic and destrying thus blog. I have to ignore that garbage everyday.

  1456. dr_robert Says:

    i’m gonna go take a nap. have fun. beech will undoubtedly say something stupid to his nonexistent blog bras. he really does deserve to be punched in the face. although i’m sure that has happened several times.

  1457. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mclicker still trying….its ok to be wrong child…

  1458. Reggiehater Says:

    1451.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
    And if you guys haven’t figured this out yet oakfoshow = al is the raiders

    Trust me.This is not the truth dummy.

  1459. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    SaintKaufman Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Fellas, why do you insist on feeding into this guys bitter outlook of people and the world?
    ===============

    how does admitting that palmer hasn’t delivered posting a 7-14 record with 35 turnovers equal me “living in a bitter world”

    so if a criticize branch or romac is that also off limits or just the qb?

    hmmmmm

    ***************

    that’s the thing dummy. the team sucks. palmer is their best player. and all u ever talk about is palmer/pryor. u clearly have no insight about the team.
    =======

    i know the team sucks i predicted they would the day palmer signed on look it up

    being the best player on a very bad team doesnt mean palmer is any good unless you think this is good

    7-14 35 turn overs

  1460. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    mac 20 you are desperate

    no one cares or subscribes to your theory about a supposed time table for griffin and the superbowl.

    he isnt the first qb that a team moved up for in the draft, and there was no time table for them either.

    RGIII will be (if he remains healthy) THE GREATEST REDSKIN IN THE HISTORY OF THAT ORG….BOOK IT

    he is already having the greatest rookie qb season and one of the top ten redskin qb seasons in that franchises history

    I’m pretty sure Washington fans want to see wins, they could care less if Griffin completed 1 out of 25 passes and had 5 int’s to go with 2 fumbles as long they win, they don’t care if Griffin ends up being the greatest QB ever statistically , they want to see wins, playoffs, SB’s trophies for millions of picks they gave up for him

  1461. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    i’m gonna go take a nap. have fun. beech will undoubtedly say something stupid to his nonexistent blog bras. he really does deserve to be punched in the face. although i’m sure that has happened several times.

    ————–

    Which is why you created your epic Facebook page, one of the most hysterical face plants in blog history

    Please Nob Bust, don’t ever change

  1462. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    but also because we only want to criticize black players and people. it’s part of our white supremacy (u misuse the word all the time).
    ===========

    we already know what your about

    you have posted racist trash here before you admitted to it last night

    go away you fool no one, wash your hood

  1463. Raider O Says:

    Luck is a great QB. He is not as athletic as RG3 or Cam, but he is athletic enough to make plays with his legs.
    Lucky Colts. Manning then Luck?!

  1464. mcfadden20. Says:

    I wonder Washington fans are going bananas over Griffin’s perfect statistics and going like oh who cares if we give up millions of picks for him and we’re not on our way to playoffs as long as Griffins stats >> LUCK

    And i wonder if Colts fans are mad they didn’t draft the qb who’s team has 5 wins and but have better stats than LUck , uh i wish we could have drafted Griffin look at those stats LMAO

  1465. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    mac 20 you are desperate

    no one cares or subscribes to your theory about a supposed time table for griffin and the superbowl.

    he isnt the first qb that a team moved up for in the draft, and there was no time table for them either.

    RGIII will be (if he remains healthy) THE GREATEST REDSKIN IN THE HISTORY OF THAT ORG….BOOK IT

    he is already having the greatest rookie qb season and one of the top ten redskin qb seasons in that franchises history

    I’m pretty sure Washington fans want to see wins, they could care less if Griffin completed 1 out of 25 passes and had 5 int’s to go with 2 fumbles as long they win, they don’t care if Griffin ends up being the greatest QB ever statistically , they want to see wins, playoffs, SB’s trophies for millions of picks they gave up for him
    ===========

    such a pathetic crack head

    ALL FRANCHISES AND FAN BASES WANT A HIG DRAFT PICK QB T LEAD TO SUPERBOWL WINS!!!!

    How is this exclusively applied to rgIII?

    You dont think luck was drafted for superbowls?

    so was lienart so was palmer and those were epic fails

  1466. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    RGIII will be (if he remains healthy) THE GREATEST REDSKIN IN THE HISTORY OF THAT ORG….BOOK IT
    *****************

    oh good Lord. this guy really knows how to get on a bandwagon and fast. he’s apprently already got griffin (enuff with the rg3) in the hall of fame, cuz he will have to be if he wants to be better than sammy baugh, sonny jurgensen, darrell green, john riggins, art monk, joe theisman, etc.

    a very stupid thing to say. of many.

  1467. Reggiehater Says:

    Cork says to me”please dont come here and learn me something”.

  1468. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    mac 20 you are desperate

    no one cares or subscribes to your theory about a supposed time table for griffin and the superbowl.

    he isnt the first qb that a team moved up for in the draft, and there was no time table for them either.

    RGIII will be (if he remains healthy) THE GREATEST REDSKIN IN THE HISTORY OF THAT ORG….BOOK IT

    he is already having the greatest rookie qb season and one of the top ten redskin qb seasons in that franchises history

    I’m pretty sure Washington fans want to see wins, they could care less if Griffin completed 1 out of 25 passes and had 5 int’s to go with 2 fumbles as long they win, they don’t care if Griffin ends up being the greatest QB ever statistically , they want to see wins, playoffs, SB’s trophies for millions of picks they gave up for him
    ===========

    such a pathetic crack head

    ALL FRANCHISES AND FAN BASES WANT A HIG DRAFT PICK QB T LEAD TO SUPERBOWL WINS!!!!

    How is this exclusively applied to rgIII?

    You dont think luck was drafted for superbowls?

    so was lienart so was palmer and those were epic fails

    ==

    But they gave up millions of picks for griffin they didn’t just use 1 , car gave up #1 to lead them over 5 wins, YOu MAD for getting exposed?

  1469. MistaBrown Says:

    Peymour the tr0ll knows all about proxy sites.

    _______

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    There were a couple of posters who were posting swill and next thing you know they are posting “test test”. On to a proxy site they went.

  1470. mcfadden20. Says:

    HEy RObert, you think Redskins fans are going like “who cares if we mortgaged our future for this guy and still didn’t win as long as HE’S THE GREATEST REDSKIN EVER” ?

  1471. Reggiehater Says:

    oh yea exposed is the 3rd most used word in here.Troll racist exposed.exposed racist troll hes a racist hes a troll he has been exposed.

  1472. Raider E Says:

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    Mont Bleu is dead on Tuesdays,..cards dont come out until tomorrow,…but I have my four team parlay ready to go,…anyway why I popped in for a sec is this,…the Niners will release Alex Smith in about three months,…he wil be your next Raider QB, and I am all for it,…perfect fit…perfect,..smart, mobile, rolls out great,..tough,…he will go off in the ZBS,..just get a decent RB and we are respectable,…it will happen
    ——————————–

    Brien must love you propping up an niner for our team.

  1473. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    i know the team sucks i predicted they would the day palmer signed on look it up

    being the best player on a very bad team doesnt mean palmer is any good unless you think this is good

    7-14 35 turn overs

    **************

    so u predicted the raiders would suck. real stretch kid.

    yes. wins, losses, turnovers. how about newton? not the same criteria correct?

  1474. mcfadden20. Says:

    Missstupidb1tch is mad LMAO I’m loving this

  1475. dr_robert Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    Please Nob Bust, don’t ever change
    ************
    what th f@ck is a nob bust? are seriously retarded or what?

  1476. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    I wonder Washington fans are going bananas over Griffin’s
    ===============

    ROFL are you kidding??!?!/

    if you come out of your moms basement it isnt just Washington fans going bananas for griffin

    so is every intelligent football fan /analyst/gm in the world

    “I just think that hopefully we don’t have to play RG3 but one more time. I’d hate to think we’d have to line up against him five or six more times. I’m not trying to be funny….On at least two of those throws, I don’t know how you could cover them any better, and there might have been as many as five or six of them.”

    “i was in awe of RGIII”- dallas cowboy owner jerry jones

    “RGIII is my favorite player to watch in the entire nfl” – Micheal strahan

    “He is a special player,” Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said to the Dallas Morning News. “That’s why they traded half a team to get him. Obviously, he’s a tremendous athlete and they say he is a hell of a kid. I don’t like him, but I know he is very talented. This game looks like it’s in slow-motion for him- rob ryan

    just to show it isnt just me or fans but guys in the know in the nfl

    stfu any time now

  1477. Reggiehater Says:

    John Gruden is the second most popular guy in Raider history,next to Oafosho.

  1478. mcfadden20. Says:

    OH YEaH now Washington Redskin fans should be Proud because every one loves RGIII, who cares if they mortgaged their future to draft this guy to become instant contenders, as long as Griffin is exciting to watch LMAO

  1479. Big Silky Balls Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    There were a couple of posters who were posting swill and next thing you know they are posting “test test”. On to a proxy site they went.

    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    teste teste

  1480. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    You dont think luck was drafted for superbowls?

    so was lienart so was palmer and those were epic fails
    ******************

    jamarcus russell and jason campbell. akili smith. vince young. epic fails.

    correct?

  1481. inonewordraider Says:

    ROFL are you kidding??!?!/

    if you come out of your moms basement it isnt just Washington fans going bananas for griffin

    so is every intelligent football fan /analyst/gm in the world

    “I just think that hopefully we don’t have to play RG3 but one more time. I’d hate to think we’d have to line up against him five or six more times. I’m not trying to be funny….On at least two of those throws, I don’t know how you could cover them any better, and there might have been as many as five or six of them.”

    “i was in awe of RGIII”- dallas cowboy owner jerry jones

    “RGIII is my favorite player to watch in the entire nfl” – Micheal strahan

    “He is a special player,” Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said to the Dallas Morning News. “That’s why they traded half a team to get him. Obviously, he’s a tremendous athlete and they say he is a hell of a kid. I don’t like him, but I know he is very talented. This game looks like it’s in slow-motion for him- rob ryan

    just to show it isnt just me or fans but guys in the know in the nfl

    stfu any time now
    ____________
    you had those quotes ready to go didn’t you? that’s pretty funny

  1482. mcfadden20. Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    ROFL are you kidding??!?!/

    if you come out of your moms basement it isnt just Washington fans going bananas for griffin

    so is every intelligent football fan /analyst/gm in the world

    “I just think that hopefully we don’t have to play RG3 but one more time. I’d hate to think we’d have to line up against him five or six more times. I’m not trying to be funny….On at least two of those throws, I don’t know how you could cover them any better, and there might have been as many as five or six of them.”

    “i was in awe of RGIII”- dallas cowboy owner jerry jones

    “RGIII is my favorite player to watch in the entire nfl” – Micheal strahan

    “He is a special player,” Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said to the Dallas Morning News. “That’s why they traded half a team to get him. Obviously, he’s a tremendous athlete and they say he is a hell of a kid. I don’t like him, but I know he is very talented. This game looks like it’s in slow-motion for him- rob ryan

    just to show it isnt just me or fans but guys in the know in the nfl

    stfu any time now
    ____________
    you had those quotes ready to go didn’t you? that’s pretty funny

    HAHAHHAHAHA

  1483. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    HEy RObert, you think Redskins fans are going like “who cares if we mortgaged our future for this guy and still didn’t win as long as HE’S THE GREATEST REDSKIN EVER” ?

    ******************

    he will at least have to win one super bowl to be in the conversation of greatest for that organization.

  1484. mcfadden20. Says:

    In Carolina fans must be happy with Cam they must be going like ” who cares if Luck just got drafed #1 and instantly took them to playoffs as long we got more exciting player on our team, doesn’t matter if we win less than 5 games with him 2 years in a row “

  1485. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    i know the team sucks i predicted they would the day palmer signed on look it up

    being the best player on a very bad team doesnt mean palmer is any good unless you think this is good

    7-14 35 turn overs

    **************

    so u predicted the raiders would suck. real stretch kid.

    yes. wins, losses, turnovers. how about newton? not the same criteria correct?
    ========

    i love newton

    not bad for a second year qb

    17td 17 turn overs 3 wins

    compare him to palmer

    19tds 16 turnovers 3 wins

    both play on awful teams and cam is hanging with a 10 year vet

  1486. Iron Balls Says:

    test

    Great to be here guys. Long time listener, first time caller. You guys got a great place here. Looks good. Almost as good as that deuce I just uncorked. Anyway, you all take care and be good. Be nice to each other or you won’t get any cookies and milk before bed.

  1487. dr_robert Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    you had those quotes ready to go didn’t you? that’s pretty funny
    ****************

    LOL! u know this is the most consuming thing in his little life.

  1488. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    ROFL are you kidding??!?!/

    if you come out of your moms basement it isnt just Washington fans going bananas for griffin

    so is every intelligent football fan /analyst/gm in the world

    “I just think that hopefully we don’t have to play RG3 but one more time. I’d hate to think we’d have to line up against him five or six more times. I’m not trying to be funny….On at least two of those throws, I don’t know how you could cover them any better, and there might have been as many as five or six of them.”

    “i was in awe of RGIII”- dallas cowboy owner jerry jones

    “RGIII is my favorite player to watch in the entire nfl” – Micheal strahan

    “He is a special player,” Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said to the Dallas Morning News. “That’s why they traded half a team to get him. Obviously, he’s a tremendous athlete and they say he is a hell of a kid. I don’t like him, but I know he is very talented. This game looks like it’s in slow-motion for him- rob ryan

    just to show it isnt just me or fans but guys in the know in the nfl

    stfu any time now
    ____________
    you had those quotes ready to go didn’t you? that’s pretty funny
    ======

    no but they are all over the news, so spare me

  1489. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    In Carolina fans must be happy with Cam they must be going like ” who cares if Luck just got drafed #1 and instantly took them to playoffs as long we got more exciting player on our team, doesn’t matter if we win less than 5 games with him 2 years in a row “

    *********

    LOL! yeah, if it’s one thing fans love more than wins, it’s “exciting players”.

  1490. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    HEy RObert, you think Redskins fans are going like “who cares if we mortgaged our future for this guy and still didn’t win as long as HE’S THE GREATEST REDSKIN EVER” ?

    ******************

    he will at least have to win one super bowl to be in the conversation of greatest for that organization.

    I’m just going by what Mist1c said, Do you think washington fans want Superbowl wins and playoffs instantly for mortgaging their future for this guy, or do they just want to see him as the Greatest Redskin ever ?

  1491. Bonerella Licious Says:

    Man it smells like ass in here.

  1492. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    i know the team sucks i predicted they would the day palmer signed on look it up

    being the best player on a very bad team doesnt mean palmer is any good unless you think this is good

    7-14 35 turn overs

    **************

    so u predicted the raiders would suck. real stretch kid.

    yes. wins, losses, turnovers. how about newton? not the same criteria correct?
    ========

    i love newton

    not bad for a second year qb

    17td 17 turn overs 3 wins

    compare him to palmer

    19tds 16 turnovers 3 wins

    both play on awful teams and cam is hanging with a 10 year vet

    ===

    Luck #1 pick – playoffs in first year
    Cam #1 pick – less than 5 wins 2 year in a row

    We didn’t use # 1 pick on Palmer

    LMAO

  1493. dr_robert Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    HEy RObert, you think Redskins fans are going like “who cares if we mortgaged our future for this guy and still didn’t win as long as HE’S THE GREATEST REDSKIN EVER” ?

    ******************

    he will at least have to win one super bowl to be in the conversation of greatest for that organization.

    I’m just going by what Mist1c said, Do you think washington fans want Superbowl wins and playoffs instantly for mortgaging their future for this guy, or do they just want to see him as the Greatest Redskin ever ?

    ****************

    well, that’s the thing. he can’t possibly be the greatest redskin without at least one super bowl win, and probably more. that’s why it’s such a stupid comment to make for missdick. i mean it shows how excitable and dumb he is.

  1494. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    In Carolina fans must be happy with Cam they must be going like ” who cares if Luck just got drafed #1 and instantly took them to playoffs as long we got more exciting player on our team, doesn’t matter if we win less than 5 games with him 2 years in a row “
    ===========

    lol unlike palmer and the raiders the panther front office is still in cams corner.

    They have fired the gm for failing to build arond cam and hiring the wrong coaching staff.

    rivera is on the hot seat and may go next

    rivera was hired by the former gm a hire that the owner did not make

    You will call this an excuse but im only reporting what has actually happened in panther land’

    dont like it take it up with the panther ownership

    beside cam did what palmer has never done as a raider 2 tds passing 2 rushing no turn overs and the win

  1495. Oakglen Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    There were a couple of posters who were posting swill and next thing you know they are posting “test test”. On to a proxy site they went.

    HOLLA :P

  1496. Raider O Says:

    Later Gents. Too many trolls (Dr. Rob & McFadden20) to ignore.

  1497. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raiders RapidReports ‏@CBSRaiders
    Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker will call Sunday’s Raiders-Browns game for CBS.
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    ——-
    Yeah, we get these losers again.

  1498. dr_robert Says:

    oh missdick—i know u see me.

    jamarcus russell and jason campbell. akili smith. vince young. epic fails.

    correct?

  1499. mcfadden20. Says:

    Uh who cares if we Griffin isn’t taking us to playoffs after we gave up all the future picks for him while Luck is leading colts to playoffs, as long as Griffin is all over the news.

    Is this something washington fans care about?

  1500. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    November 27th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    i know the team sucks i predicted they would the day palmer signed on look it up

    being the best player on a very bad team doesnt mean palmer is any good unless you think this is good

    7-14 35 turn overs

    **************

    so u predicted the raiders would suck. real stretch kid.

    yes. wins, losses, turnovers. how about newton? not the same criteria correct?
    ========

    i love newton

    not bad for a second year qb

    17td 17 turn overs 3 wins

    compare him to palmer

    19tds 16 turnovers 3 wins

    both play on awful teams and cam is hanging with a 10 year vet

    ===

    Luck #1 pick – playoffs in first year
    Cam #1 pick – less than 5 wins 2 year in a row

    We didn’t use # 1 pick on Palmer

    LMAO
    =============

    laughing at yourself i guess

    we gave up a first and a second round pick for palmer and payed a ton of cash to boot

    he was twice as expensive as cam newton who only cost 1 pick

    are you drunk?

  1501. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The greatest Redskin ever was Dexter Manley. That guy made it all the way through college with ever learning how to read. Now that’s impressive.

  1502. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    *never ^

  1503. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Uh who cares if we Griffin isn’t taking us to playoffs after we gave up all the future picks for him while Luck is leading colts to playoffs, as long as Griffin is all over the news.

    Is this something washington fans care about?
    ============

    they are juiced for rgIII

    by the way luck isnt in the playoffs yet, although he has a good chance to make it.

    Im pulling for the kid he is fun to watch

  1504. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    In Carolina fans must be happy with Cam they must be going like ” who cares if Luck just got drafed #1 and instantly took them to playoffs as long we got more exciting player on our team, doesn’t matter if we win less than 5 games with him 2 years in a row “
    ===========

    lol unlike palmer and the raiders the panther front office is still in cams corner.

    They have fired the gm for failing to build arond cam and hiring the wrong coaching staff.

    rivera is on the hot seat and may go next

    rivera was hired by the former gm a hire that the owner did not make

    You will call this an excuse but im only reporting what has actually happened in panther land’

    dont like it take it up with the panther ownership

    beside cam did what palmer has never done as a raider 2 tds passing 2 rushing no turn overs and the win

    They used #1 overall pick on Cam to lead them to some where, there is no progress with Panthers, None

    we gave up only mid round and early 2nd for Palmer

    Midround and early 2nd wouldn’t get you a first in any trade with any manager, Heck washington gave up millions of picks just to move up from #6 to #2

  1505. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    lol unlike palmer and the raiders the panther front office is still in cams corner.

    They have fired the gm for failing to build arond cam and hiring the wrong coaching staff.

    rivera is on the hot seat and may go next

    rivera was hired by the former gm a hire that the owner did not make

    You will call this an excuse but im only reporting what has actually happened in panther land’

    dont like it take it up with the panther ownership

    beside cam did what palmer has never done as a raider 2 tds passing 2 rushing no turn overs and the win
    **********

    see it’s comments like this that prove u are ignorant.

    the panthers are firing everyone cuz they’re UNHAPPY with how things are going. they’re getting ready to blow it all up.

    the raiders are staying the course and calm because they like palmer. they’re on a path and he’s part of it.

  1506. dr_robert Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    oh missdick–yoo hoo—i know u see me.

    jamarcus russell and jason campbell. akili smith. vince young. epic fails.

    correct?

  1507. dr_robert Says:

    coward?

  1508. mcfadden20. Says:

    #1 pick value is a lot , midround pick and early 2nd is nothing compared to #1 pick which you make to turn around your franchise, less than 5 wins 2 years in a row

  1509. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Cam is a major diva and has alienated his teammates. He’ll be out of Carolina in a few years.

  1510. Moderator Says:

    Bogus.

  1511. mcfadden20. Says:

    Palmer is paid more than 10 million but only 1 million is counting against the cap, so he’s not really blocking any major upgrades for our team , I’m pretty sure Cam is being paid way more than Palmer since salaries for #1 picks have risen since 04

  1512. dr_robert Says:

    people thought cam might be benched earlier in the season.

    but i actually like him. he’s a good player.

    i just think missdick’s an idiot. and a squirmy little snake for never holding qb’s up to the same standard. always changing it for what suits him.

    btw, where’s sullvan? oh yeah. missdick’s posting too much for him to be here.

  1513. mcfadden20. Says:

    LOL M1st1c gets exposed and all of a sudden no where to be seen

  1514. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    even though i have answered this a million times

    I preferred jc because of the wins and the fact that he protected the ball

    I look at the big picture not just stats not just win totals

    you should try it
    ____________
    don’t get mad at me, get mad at every gm in the league that had a chance to sign him as their starter after last year, and the ones that won’t sign him as their starter after this year.=
    ============

    that has nothing to do with the question you asked, which was about how i make a judgment about the qb i prefer.

    Are you able to stay on topic? or do you simply change the discussion when you have no answer?

  1515. dr_robert Says:

    yeah cuz he has to go switch handles.

  1516. dr_robert Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    oh missdick— come one now. here boy. here boy.

    i know u see me.

    jamarcus russell and jason campbell. akili smith. vince young. epic fails.

    correct?

  1517. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m cool with Alex Smith. He’s proven himself to be clutch, even in post season. Carson Palmer will never be any such thing.

  1518. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    people thought cam might be benched earlier in the season.

    but i actually like him. he’s a good player.

    i just think missdick’s an idiot. and a squirmy little snake for never holding qb’s up to the same standard. always changing it for what suits him.

    btw, where’s sullvan? oh yeah. missdick’s posting too much for him to be here.


    I like Griffin too , I just say all kinda stupid stuff just to make him mad

  1519. mcfadden20. Says:

    There he is hahaha you were right Dr_robert

  1520. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Palmer is paid more than 10 million but only 1 million is counting against the cap, so he’s not really blocking any major upgrades for our team , I’m pretty sure Cam is being paid way more than Palmer since salaries for #1 picks have risen since 04
    ============

    he was the number one pick

    isnt he supposed to be higly paid?

    every number one pick gets a nice check

    carson was too when he signed with bungles after he was drafted

    then he was highly paid by them again and quit on the contract

    then he signed for a but load of cash here, and cost 2 picks a first and a second

    soo lets paid handsomly at every turn, totaling 3 draft picks (cincy and Oakland) and he has flopped

    yep i take cam over palmer and it isnt even close

  1521. mcfadden20. Says:

    I know Griffin is probably more talented than Luck and saddled with horrible team , but M1st1c doesn’t care what ever support Palmer have, as long he keeps losing and throws ints result of tips by own receivers and keeps fumbling results of blind side hits

  1522. Ball Hog Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    I’m cool with Alex Smith. He’s proven himself to be clutch, even in post season. Carson Palmer will never be any such thing.

    =============================

    Alex has big balls. Big hog balls. The cat is a stud.

  1523. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    people thought cam might be benched earlier in the season.

    but i actually like him. he’s a good player.

    i just think missdick’s an idiot. and a squirmy little snake for never holding qb’s up to the same standard. always changing it for what suits him.

    btw, where’s sullvan? oh yeah. missdick’s posting too much for him to be here.


    I like Griffin too , I just say all kinda stupid stuff just to make him mad
    =========

    what a liar

    “black qbs suck”

    those are your words, griffin is black

    you said he would never make it in the pros

    stfu

  1524. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    I know Griffin is probably more talented than Luck and saddled with horrible team , but M1st1c doesn’t care what ever support Palmer have, as long he keeps losing and throws ints result of tips by own receivers and keeps fumbling results of blind side hits
    =======

    griffin and luck are worlds better than palmer

    please stop drinking

  1525. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Palmer is paid more than 10 million but only 1 million is counting against the cap, so he’s not really blocking any major upgrades for our team , I’m pretty sure Cam is being paid way more than Palmer since salaries for #1 picks have risen since 04
    ============

    he was the number one pick

    isnt he supposed to be higly paid?

    every number one pick gets a nice check

    carson was too when he signed with bungles after he was drafted

    then he was highly paid by them again and quit on the contract

    then he signed for a but load of cash here, and cost 2 picks a first and a second

    soo lets paid handsomly at every turn, totaling 3 draft picks (cincy and Oakland) and he has flopped

    yep i take cam over palmer and it isnt even close

    You are reaching , that’s Bengals problem if they used # 1 on him , we didn’t use # 1 on him , we used mid 1st and 2nd in 2 different years, and ask any guy if they will give up their first overall pick for mid first and early 2nd , he will laugh at you , matter of the fact is #1 pick should change your franchises, mid round and 2nd round picks aren’t counted upon to do the same

    Luck #1 pick = playoffs
    C Newton #1 pick = less than 10 wins in 2 years

  1526. dr_robert Says:

    missdick—are u seriously a coward? can’t admit russell, campbell, smith, and young were epic fails, like u said palmer and leinart were?

    come on. u can do it.

  1527. Seymour Bush Says:

    Have we put a claim in for Jason Babin yet?

  1528. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    people thought cam might be benched earlier in the season.

    but i actually like him. he’s a good player.

    i just think missdick’s an idiot. and a squirmy little snake for never holding qb’s up to the same standard. always changing it for what suits him.

    btw, where’s sullvan? oh yeah. missdick’s posting too much for him to be here.


    I like Griffin too , I just say all kinda stupid stuff just to make him mad
    =========

    what a liar

    “black qbs suck”

    those are your words, griffin is black

    you said he would never make it in the pros

    stfu

    LOL HAHAHA i said he would never make it in the pros? OMG where did you get that from

  1529. dr_robert Says:

    he said it to f@ck with u missdick. u know this but u keep wanting to bring it up so u can evade being pinned down.

  1530. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    trolls have at it im done for now

    buckle your seat belts it Looks like the browns and donks will be

    PALMERS LAST STAND

  1531. dr_robert Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    here little chicken. here little chicken.

    jamarcus russell and jason campbell. akili smith. vince young. epic fails.

    correct?

  1532. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    I know Griffin is probably more talented than Luck and saddled with horrible team , but M1st1c doesn’t care what ever support Palmer have, as long he keeps losing and throws ints result of tips by own receivers and keeps fumbling results of blind side hits
    =======

    griffin and luck are worlds better than palmer

    please stop drinking

    Ofcourse they are expected to be better than Palmer

    Luck #1 Pick
    Griffin = Millions of picks
    CP = Mid 1st and early 2nd

  1533. dr_robert Says:

    what a coward.

  1534. KoolKell Says:

    Nice Kawakami article

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_22076879?source=autofeed#

  1535. Seymour Bush Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    missdick—are u seriously a coward? can’t admit russell, campbell, smith, and young were epic fails, like u said palmer and leinart were?

    come on. u can do it.
    ==========================================

    Quincy Carter, Aaron Brooks, Kordell Stewart, Tavaris Jackson,

  1536. dr_robert Says:

    he ain’t black. he’s yellow.

  1537. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    he said it to f@ck with u missdick. u know this but u keep wanting to bring it up so u can evade being pinned down.
    ======

    NO HE SAID IT BECAUSE THAT IS WHO HE IS

    JUST AS YOU POSTED RACIST RTASH THEN TRIED TO CLEAN IT UP AND SAY IT WAS JOKING

    THE JOKES ARE YOUR TRUE FEELINGS BUT YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO ADMIT IT

    have at it trolls

    im out

  1538. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    he said it to f@ck with u missdick. u know this but u keep wanting to bring it up so u can evade being pinned down.

    But the sad thing is he don’t care he’s just a troll

  1539. dr_robert Says:

    ouch seymour. all epic fails like palmer and leinart.

    missdick is such a punk.

  1540. mcfadden20. Says:

    So m1stic is leaving by tucking his tail inbetween his legs, where have i seen that before? Oh that happens every-time he gets exposed LMAO

  1541. mcfadden20. Says:

    Hey Dr_robert , good job , you really exposed him today LMAO but the funny thing is he will come back with a different ID now, or must be calling up his buddy TJPriest to back him up

  1542. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    missdick—are u seriously a coward? can’t admit russell, campbell, smith, and young were epic fails, like u said palmer and leinart were?

    come on. u can do it.
    ==========================================

    Quincy Carter, Aaron Brooks, Kordell Stewart, Tavaris Jackson,
    ============

    are you dividing qbs by color seymore?

    Are you listing black qbs that didnt win the superbowl? what is this list supposed to be?

    why are you guys so color struck

    raider nation = racist nation

  1543. dr_robert Says:

    he can’t stop. he is obsessed.

  1544. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    missdick—are u seriously a coward? can’t admit russell, campbell, smith, and young were epic fails, like u said palmer and leinart were?

    come on. u can do it.
    ==========================================

    Quincy Carter, Aaron Brooks, Kordell Stewart, Tavaris Jackson,
    ============

    are you dividing qbs by color seymore?

    Are you listing black qbs that didnt win the superbowl? what is this list supposed to be?

    why are you guys so color struck

    raider nation = racist nation

    -

    Yup so predictable, we knew you weren’t going anywhere, but it was time to change the topic huh LMAO

  1545. Seymour Bush Says:

    James Harris, Vince Evans, Byron Leftwich….

    Man, some of those guys were not very good, regardless of skin color.

  1546. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    he can’t stop. he is obsessed.

    I was just about to say, he will come back and try to change the topic, maybe something like Racist this or racist that, isn’t that little fella so predictable lol

  1547. Seymour Bush Says:

    I just wish you guys would stop with the racist rants. Just let it go.

  1548. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    are you dividing qbs by color seymore?

    Are you listing black qbs that didnt win the superbowl? what is this list supposed to be?

    why are you guys so color struck
    ****************

    u said palmer and leinart were epic fails cuz they were 1st rounders who didn’t win the super bowl. just show u can admit a black qb failed. come on. u can do it.
    raider nation = racist nation

  1549. mcfadden20. Says:

    He even shows that he’s not a Raiders fan , otherwise he wouldn’t say Raider nation = Racist nation

  1550. mcfadden20. Says:

    M1st1c keeps getting exposed

  1551. dr_robert Says:

    yeah–i’m kinda bored by missdick now. he’s like a fun toy u play with for a while, but eventually he gets worn out. similar to sullivan and beech before him. but he’s in the hall of fame for blog dummies.

  1552. YoungAmerican Says:

    http://www.tfdssports.com/site/raiders-vs-bengals-3-takeaways.html

  1553. dr_robert Says:

    let’s recap:

    our golden haired hero

    space-age attack

    legacy game

    what a run.

  1554. mcfadden20. Says:

    1st Rd Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M , 2nd rd (by trade) CB Emerson N&S State , 3rd round Brandon Jenkins DE Florida State 4th rd C/RT 5th(by Trade) FS 6th RB 7-th LB

  1555. mcfadden20. Says:

    Be right back..

  1556. dr_robert Says:

    oh sh!t! i forgot what started it all:

    wave of the future

  1557. Seymour Bush Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    He even shows that he’s not a Raiders fan , otherwise he wouldn’t say Raider nation = Racist nation
    ===========================

    I am wondering if mistic isn’t maddenraider. He exhibits almost identical behavior. Comes here and changes the subject to race which was always a staple of the MR troll parade. Says things just to inflame others, another MR staple, keeps coming back to the same things over and over regardless of what is happening with the team. Almost identical behavior. Huh…

  1558. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Don’t get bored with Miss Tick quite yet. I’m still working on the definitve collection of disparaging phrases to describe Carson Palmer. Only have thirtysevenso far, haven’t gone back very far. Oh , Miss Tick, I am in an unending love affair with my Golden Haired Hero wom I worship.

  1559. morilla Says:

    This place cracks me up.

  1560. Seymour Bush Says:

    Jason Babin, Jason Babin, Jason Babin,….

  1561. Raider E Says:

    5 of our 8 losses have been by more than 20 points.

  1562. KoolKell Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    http://www.tfdssports.com/site/raiders-vs-bengals-3-takeaways.html
    ——————————
    Something has got to change down the stretch before DA is invited back.

  1563. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Wouldn’t it be great if TP could become almost as good as Palmer and see some time this year and next? Palmer takes us as far as we can go next year and continues to be the upstanding player he has shown himself to be and TP comes in as startng QB 2014 with a relaxed Palmer as #2. I’
    d feel a lot better about Palmer coming in to a game than just about anybody I can think of. Certainly better than our back ups last year or this.

  1564. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Cork should create a post containing lists of names that share the same ip address.

    That would be freaking hilarious.

    Talk about EXPOSED,,,,,

  1565. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:Jason Babin, Jason Babin, Jason Babin,….======================================

    I’m with you. Who the he11 is Babin?

  1566. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    MACaddress IP not applicable. And he won’t.

  1567. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:Jason Babin, Jason Babin, Jason Babin,….======================================

    I’m with you. Who the he11 is Babin?
    ================
    He is 33 years old, i know that much. How long until his knees hurt to much to practice, I would be afraid that he could become the new Seymour.

  1568. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    morilla Says: This place cracks me up.===============

    We keep coming back.

  1569. KoolKell Says:

    Whats A Drexl? Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Cork should create a post containing lists of names that share the same ip address.

    That would be freaking hilarious.

    Talk about EXPOSED,,,,,
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    They use proxy servers that block their IP address. That’s how they keep coming back under different names

  1570. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Is Seymour even 33?

  1571. Mr Green Says:

    ̡̡̢̨̡͖̻͕̩̻̠̜̖͈͇̰̝̬̜͇̰͙̗̼i̢̨̧̧̧̧̻͔̙̗̣̦̳͕̘̩͚̳͔͚͖̺̮̭̻̩̣̳̰͖̬̥̹͚̝̞͈̦̯̹͎̭͉̭͖͕̬͈͜͜͜ ̡̢̨̡̡̬̺͓͇̰̟͔͍̼̭̮͖͉̮̭̱͍̪̣̖͕͈͚͙̼̝̫̲̰̰̻̪̣̘̯̼͙̝͎̟̬͙̳̖͓̘̫̦̝̩̞̟̟̝̞̬̞͎͙̯͍̼͓̭͇͓͈̮̖͍͔͙̤̺̠͚̯͓̱̙̥̗̹̮̭̰̱͇̭̞͖̼̦̣͚͍̺̥̯̪͍̠̼̦̙͜ͅͅr̢̨̢̝̳̠͖̩̩̲̠͖̘̞̞̤͍̯͓͉͕̫̱̰͍ ̢̧̧̨̨̡̧̧̞̬̳͖̭̗̳̠͈̰̮̲̯͕̫̜̹̠͚̫͍̘̦̙͇̘̬͓̙̱͖̲̟̙͉̦͓̜̰̲̟̲̥̼̺͕̲̯̭̘̠̠̰͓͚̞͓͎͖̘̰͚͖̺͙̹̯͕̼͓̰̻͓̺̘̝͜͜ͅͅ ̧̧̧̨͕̳̗̙̯͓͕̫̳̜̯͚̰͇͔̬̗̱̜̙̟̬̼̠̺̤̯̥͈͔̗̻̠̜͍̜̫͈̫͕̘͚͇͉͕͇̤̖̤̭͓͜͜ͅa̧̨̨̢̡̧̢̼̺̹͈̼͕͖͔̬͈̲̬͈͍͉̹͍̻̳̰̤͎̹̥̫̙͖̼̭̥̳̦̰͎͈͕̜̝̱̱̖̥̦̘̣͈ͅͅį̡̢̢̨̨̡̨̢̡̘̙̳̩̟̙̳͚͓̮̩̣̦͈̺̯̮̥͖̻̮̥̗̭͍͔̞̞̯͉̺͙̹̠̠̩͔͓̪̠̫͎̳̩̮̠͕̘̮͖̬̤͍̞͚̬͖͈̳̥̰̣̙̖͜͜͜͜͜ͅͅͅ ̧̡̨͍̲̟̱͉̞̟͇͇͙̱̗̦̼̻͇̣̺͓̼͎̝̺̹̲͕̻̤̰͕̞͔a̧̡̨̯̟̯̟̯͙̬͇̗̺͍͔̙̣̼͔̯͕͇͔͔͉̼̙͙͙̟͇̫̱ͅ ̧̨̡̡̡̠̮̹̠͍͚̦̣͈͇̰̙̫̯͙̗̼̬̥̫͉̤̹͇͙̻͓̼͙͖̮͙͔̺̜̙͍̫̼̥͉̩̮̞͓̗̱̖͕̠̦̜͓̗̲ͅȩ̡̡͈̭̤̦͈͚͚̤͈̙̰̣̩̖̼̖̝͉̞̹͕̰̱̭͎̦̗̰̟͎ͅr̢̨̧̙̣̫͖̰̘͔͔̥͕̤̲̪̫̮̹͙̤͙͕͚i̡̡̡̝̻̳̤͓̞̱̤̼̩͉̤̠̟͎̱͉̺̭̝̱̥̭͚͔̮͉̳̗̥̥̤̭̠̼̝͍͚͓̙̬̟͓̪̥̰̩̪͍͓͔̳̖̖͜͜ḏ̨̢̧̹͇̯̫̼͙̬̠͕̜͈̹̻̥̩̩̫̣̭͚.̢̢̟͚͖̟͖͓̭͕̳̮̗̞̘̪̦͙͚̥̙͍̯̤̝̲͉̦͜

  1572. mac Says:

    Babin is someone we would prolly give up a 1st for,damn,

  1573. Mr Green Says:

    Damn Mr P/I :cool:

    It spilled

    :mrgreen:

  1574. mac Says:

    or maybe not under the new “Reggie”

  1575. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Don’t get bored with Miss Tick quite yet. I’m still working on the definitve collection of disparaging phrases to describe Carson Palmer. Only have thirtysevenso far, haven’t gone back very far. Oh , Miss Tick, I am in an unending love affair with my Golden Haired Hero wom I worship.”

    I worship Palmer too maybe we could start a hotline for Palmer worshipers?

  1576. mac Says:

    ps,knapp is crap

  1577. YoungAmerican Says:

    Something has got to change down the stretch before DA is invited back.

    ============

    I think DA will almost certainly be back, but any of (maybe all?) the coordinators could be axed in the offseason. Too many fundamental mistakes on both sides of the ball. Hard to Allen to keep plugging in new players to hold guys accountable when the roster simply isn’t deep enough at any position to do so.

  1578. mac Says:

    and,knapp is crap

  1579. Mr Green Says:

    ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉̢̛͍̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͟͝͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍͟͝+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ+l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠Ṙ̸̷̥̘̼̺̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗ l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍l̵̡̜͎̮̜̪̳̜̲̦̠̮͑̽̽̊͂̓́̀ͅǫ̵̧̦͖̣̫̩ͤ̊͐̂̏̓̑̃ͯ̃́͗͒̓̓́̀̚̚͝l̶ͣ̈́̍ͣͯ̀҉͍̬̞̻̭͍̼͟͝ͅ ̢̛̘̖͔̮͎̬̫̗̲̹̙̙̬̹͍̫̳͂̓̔͑͠t̵̼̘̤͕̝͇͙̼͖̭͓̹̠̪̓̋̓̂͟͝ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็h̷̡̧̗̞͎̫͍̪̥͓̲̠̙͕̩̗͔̤͋̓̈̌͗͛ͩͣ̈́͛̓ͥ̑̋ͭ͗ͬͮ͆͟ï̴̶̸͎̰͕͙̼̪̖͇͇̟̠̤͍̺̳̟͍̏̌̄ͭ̿͑ͭ̔̌̽̔́̒̉̊̿̈͟s͎̱̻͍̳̝̲͇ͬͮͯ͛̓̾ͦͨ̕͝ T̡̖̩͓̹̝̩̥̹̋͆ͨ̽̾ͪͬ̂͘͠R̸̷̥̘̼̺̓ͪ­­­­­­­­­̇̋͐ͫ͠O̡̨̝̤̻̰̯̗̞̜ͯ̿̃ͫ̿ͤ͐­ͤ­­̉­̽­ͬ­­̚ส็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ­L­̢­̗̹͇̗͉̽́͛̄͢O̴̡̫­̝̗­͈͖̗

  1580. MistaBrown Says:

    KK & Peymour Bush talking about proxy servers to hide IP.
    Do the math folks…

  1581. mac Says:

    friggin o-lines a total joke this year,did i mention
    knapp is crap!

  1582. Mr Green Says:

    Help Mr P/I :cool:

    This is as far as I can get. No more trying to get the Raidah logo. It’s to messy.

    :mrgreen:

  1583. mac Says:

    knapp is crap!

  1584. Just Fire Baby Says:

    and cam is hanging with a 10 year vet

    *********************

    But not just any “10 year vet”.

    The one YOU, MR. PLANET MAN, siad who was part of the “worst trade in all of sports”, someone who has had a “miserable career” and someone who you constantly say is failing miserably currently.

  1585. Mr Green Says:

    Actually folks, what I really just posted was a page out of knapps playbook. No wonder we is strugglin.

    :mrgreen:

  1586. Just Fire Baby Says:

    They should post the name of the monikor that gets banned.

    However, that may be the crowning life achievement for some of these clowns.

  1587. Raiders for life Says:

    I don’t expect the Raiders to bring in anymore players this season, it’s pretty much over. Get a look at the guys you got and rarely play. Criner was a good start, now let’s see Pryor and Jones. Got to evaluate them somehow for next season. Start Bergstrom at RT and see how he holds up the rest of the season.

    I’ve read some good comments that relate to this, gotta play some of these guys to verify the needs this offseason.

  1588. Mr Green Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    They should post the name of the monikor that gets banned.

    However, that may be the crowning life achievement for some of these clowns.

    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    You mean like how they put up nsf checks at the local grocery store :?: Awesome.

    :mrgreen:

  1589. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Never say never, but you are getting sloppy. Gotta break a few eggs and how you doin’? I did see your post about bullfrog lane a couple weeks ago. Just so you know.

  1590. YoungAmerican Says:

    At this point the Raiders are just trying to make sure they have cap space going into next season. Have to re-up/reload at several positions. Many players will be free agents after the season, either because their 1-year deals will be up or because they’ll be outright cut.

    Shaughnessy, Bryant, and Wheeler may come back. Hanson has a shot too. The rest? I’m not convinced. And it’s very possible that this will be the last season in Silver and Black for some players under contract like Seymour, Kelly, Tollefson, McFadden, Goethel, Jones, Carlisle, and maybe even Brisiel.

  1591. mac Says:

    put up[ everyones moniker.might faze clinton,but not me,
    knapp is crap!

  1592. mcfadden20. Says:

    Why don’t fans take billboards like fire knapp etc etc to games

  1593. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    I hate it when the bank doesn’t have the funds to pay my check. I know damm well I’ve got money ’cause I’ve still got checks left in my book.

  1594. mac Says:

    too big,just take signs
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap

  1595. KoolKell Says:

    If the regression continues down the stretch, DA is probably gone.

  1596. Mr Green Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
    Never say never, but you are getting sloppy. Gotta break a few eggs and how you doin’? I did see your post about bullfrog lane a couple weeks ago. Just so you know.

    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    Hope Cork doesn’t get to excited about me breaking some eggs. Won’t happen again. I’ll do my experimenting on maybe a charger or donkey blog. That’ll piss’em off, specially if I get it right. I really wanted that Bullfrog Lane sign.

    :mrgreen:

  1597. mcfadden20. Says:

    Briesel was a huge disappoint, time to give Berg shot at either RG or RT ,if he fits at either position that would be one less head ache to worry about going into the season

  1598. RaiderLen Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
    and cam is hanging with a 10 year vet

    *********************

    But not just any “10 year vet”.

    The one YOU, MR. PLANET MAN, siad who was part of the “worst trade in all of sports”, someone who has had a “miserable career” and someone who you constantly say is failing miserably currently.-
    ————————————————-
    LOL.

    Knock out punch. lol

  1599. mac Says:

    and your choice kk is?

  1600. mcfadden20. Says:

    Going into off-season

  1601. SaintKaufman Says:

    I’m with ya YA.
    If Allen fires the OC/DC I think it will be a pivotal moment in his career here.
    Remember, McKenzie said that the HC makes those decisions so if it happens then it means that Allen is serious about getting this hot mess cleaned up and that he is not afraid to use his authority.

  1602. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    KK & Peymour Bush talking about proxy servers to hide IP.
    Do the math folks…
    ================================

    You only come here to cause problems. The site is on an axing mission. You are the next one that needs to go.

  1603. mac Says:

    DA will be here its crappy knapp who needs to go./period.

  1604. nycraider Says:

    2012 year of the excuse, 2013 there are no excuses

  1605. mac Says:

    there will be,lol for someone

  1606. YoungAmerican Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    If the regression continues down the stretch, DA is probably gone.

    =========

    Down the stretch meaning next season? Sure. But not after one season. New regime intends to be patient and build long-term. Would have been exceedingly difficult for any coach to come into a situation where the team is $30 million over the cap and without their top 3 draft picks and still put together a winner. I think everyone expected at least another 8-8 season, so even in that respect 2012 has been a disappointment. But to blow things up again after a single season would be premature and detrimental long-term.

  1607. mac Says:

    ps,
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap

    piece out shooters,lol

  1608. SaintKaufman Says:

    Anyone who has seen the last 4 weeks of football and still thinks that the priority is to get rid of Knapp is well…..I mean, have you seen the defense?????

  1609. DEVASTATORS Says:

    “DHB=”drops hella balls”
    ============

    It is utter nonsense that Darrius Heyward-Bey gets so much flak from you nincompoops. There’s nothing wrong with his talent, except that it is grossly underutilized. Hue Jackson always wanted Denarius Moore — a strong talent when he’s on the field – to be his #1 WR. He obviously put this notion into Carson Palmer’s head as well, as Palmer has consistently raved about Moore, despite Heyward-Bey making Palmer look very good at the end of last season to the tune of 40 or so receptions. Even as Moore remained on the sideline throughout training camp, Palmer still spoke of him glowingly, while all Heyward-Bey did was show up daily and, by all accounts, caught pretty much everything thrown his way.

    Once the real games started, Palmer all but ignored Heyward-Bey on the field and, when he does throw his way, the passes are often short — if not at his ankles — or in desperation when the game is already out of reach.

    As far as dropped passes, Heyward-Bey has dropped a few this season — two that I remember clearly. His omission from the offense might not have been a difference in our record, but it surely would make the team’s offense stronger. Below, I submit to the asinine — please do look this word up in the dictionary as it is blatantly apparent that a great many of you here match the description — those NFL players who have dropped the most passes this season. Note the two Raiders’ players on the list, and that one Raider who is not. Remember, before a player can drop the pass, he has to be THROWN the pass!

    NFL Leaders in Passes Dropped

    Rank Player Team Stats
    1t Victor Cruz NYG 9
    1t Jimmy Graham NO 9
    3t Doug Martin TB 8
    3t Brandon Pettigrew Det 8
    3t Demaryius Thomas Den 8
    6t Brent Celek Phi 7
    6t Eric Decker Den 7
    6t Calvin Johnson Det 7
    6t Brandon Myers Oak 7
    6t Reggie Wayne Ind 7
    11t Dez Bryant Dal 6
    11t Jermichael Finley GB 6
    11t Brandon Marshall Chi 6
    11t Denarius Moore Oak 6
    11t Jordy Nelson GB 6
    11t Andre Roberts Ari 6
    11t Cecil Shorts Jac 6
    11t Mike Wallace Pit 6
    11t Wes Welker NE 6
    11t Jason Witten Dal 6

  1610. KoolKell Says:

    Reggie is going to have to decide if DA is the guy between now and the end of the season. Because in year 2, Reggie’s azz will be on the line, as well. Can’t have a replay of year 1.

  1611. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Raider alert!
    Raider alert!

    Young American, we no longer discuss actual Raider stuff here. Some would love to, but get slammed and overwhelmed by those with one agenda or another. That said, Tolefson may come back and doesn’t it hurt to contamplate letting Dmac go? Might be the right thing to do. Palmer and McFadden this year, wow, I was stoked and then came Knapp.

  1612. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    He even shows that he’s not a Raiders fan , otherwise he wouldn’t say Raider nation = Racist nation
    ===========================

    I am wondering if mistic isn’t maddenraider. He exhibits almost identical behavior. Comes here and changes the subject to race which was always a staple of the MR troll parade. Says things just to inflame others, another MR staple, keeps coming back to the same things over and over regardless of what is happening with the team. Almost identical behavior. Huh…
    ****************

    been saying this for a little while. i’m pretty sure of it. his M.O. was always to either rip a player (or al davis) that most raiders fans loved, or champion a player or cause that we despised.

    always repeating himself no matter what logic faced him. until most of the board hated him.

    missdick is one of several “personalities”. the disturbing thing about it is how much time this poor soul spends on it.

  1613. SaintKaufman Says:

    The defense has now eclipsed the 0-16 Detroit Lions for points allowed.

    Back in the day fringe players would literally quit because of the abuse that would be doled out by the coaching staff if this happened. Tarver should be the most hated man in the building by the players. I’m talking throwing the projector at the screen and making everyone run ladders until there is nothing left to throw up kinda hate. WTF is going on????

  1614. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    Whats A Drexl? Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Cork should create a post containing lists of names that share the same ip address.

    That would be freaking hilarious.

    Talk about EXPOSED,,,,,
    —————-
    They use proxy servers that block their IP address. That’s how they keep coming back under different names
    **************

    not true. i am posting from the exact server i was rob raider on.

  1615. YoungAmerican Says:

    Frustrating watching Reece be way more productive than McFadden was. Have to wonder what some games might have looked like if the Raiders could have gotten just a little more out of the running game.

    As far as DA goes, McKenzie already decided he was “the guy” when he hired him to take on this massive rebuild. McKenzie and Allen’s fates are intertwined, for better or worse.

  1616. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    Anyone who has seen the last 4 weeks of football and still thinks that the priority is to get rid of Knapp is well…..I mean, have you seen the defense?????==========

    I’ ve seen every week of Knapp football, this year and the last time he tried(never has su
    cceeded). What’s your point?

  1617. mac Says:

    seen knapps O kill our D ,whats more to say.
    knapp is crap.

  1618. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    What’s your opinion of Knapp & Tarver?by Do you think that the… 2:06 PM

    I think they’re capable coordinators working with a bare cupboard. Let’s see what they can do with more talent at their disposal.

    ==========

    Hilarious answer Cork! Sure Cork, then how did Hue get so much out of this offense?

  1619. dr_robert Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
    and cam is hanging with a 10 year vet

    *********************

    But not just any “10 year vet”.

    The one YOU, MR. PLANET MAN, siad who was part of the “worst trade in all of sports”, someone who has had a “miserable career” and someone who you constantly say is failing miserably currently.
    ************

    u mean the guy he says is awesome (newton) is awesome b/c he’s hanging near the output of the guy he says sucks? oops!

  1620. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Reggie is going to have to decide if DA is the guy between now and the end of the season. Because in year 2, Reggie’s azz will be on the line, as well. Can’t have a replay of year 1
    ============================================
    Lot’s of players will be given their walking papers, so no way it’s a repeat year.
    Firing DA after one year means Reggie will be admitting that this year is on himself, considering DA is his guy. No way DA doesn’t get a second year. Same with Reggie.

  1621. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    IP adresses mean nothing. We had a little lesson ere the other day. MAC address does matter.

  1622. YoungAmerican Says:

    Some of Knapp’s play designs are actually pretty good. The problem is that he calls them in ridiculous situations, and the players on offense simply aren’t executing. WRs can’t get separation, offensive line can’t block long enough. Perfect storm of terrible offense.

  1623. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    Reggie is going to have to decide if DA is the guy between now and the end of the season. Because in year 2, Reggie’s azz will be on the line, as well. Can’t have a replay of year 1.
    ***************

    kell catching up on collective blog opinions from a month ago.

  1624. DJ Johnny Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    IP adresses mean nothing. We had a little lesson ere the other day. MAC address does matter.

    MAC address?

  1625. mac Says:

    newton plays for carolina.
    knapp style kills him too,remember the saviour,
    he killed him
    knapp is crap

  1626. KoolKell Says:

    Just because there’s new faces on the Roster next year, doesn’t mean they will be any better team, with any better record.

  1627. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    Whats A Drexl? Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Cork should create a post containing lists of names that share the same ip address.

    That would be freaking hilarious.

    Talk about EXPOSED,,,,,
    —————-
    They use proxy servers that block their IP address. That’s how they keep coming back under different names
    ===================================
    Don’t you mean you?
    How many names do you have, Kell? A couple dozen, at least. Most are one shot deals, where you sign on to post to something you said. Then you rush to post how all these people are interested in you, and only you.
    Of course, because your posts are ignored, you then repost the same comments, hoping someone sees them.

    It’s like MR stating, as Alex7, that “everyone things I’m MR”, believing it throws people off the scent.

    Which is the exact same thing you do with your “TROLL” bit, believing if you say it enough, no one will think it’s you.

  1628. Seymour Bush Says:

    You back again? Bored Phony Seymour. Or just a zero? Which is it?

  1629. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Just because there’s new faces on the Roster next year, doesn’t mean they will be any better team, with any better record.
    =========================
    Well said, for someone in the 2nd grade.
    Anyone past that?
    Isn’t this a rather obvious comment? Do you really think noone else grasps this?
    You just have to see your name, don’t you? Regardless of wasting bandwidth.

  1630. mac Says:

    KNAPP IS CRAP!
    knapp is crap!
    knapp is crap!

  1631. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raider DBs STILL aren’t looking for the ball. Tackling has been getting worse as the season goes on.

    A lot of that is on the players, but at least some of it is on the coaches for not instilling some of the fundamentals necessary to have consistency on defense.

    Sure, there’s only so much you can do with lack of talent and depth. But Allen did a great job with a group that didn’t look all that impressive on paper. But even that group had a few stars – Bailey, Dumervil, Miller – more than the Raiders have at this point.

    Bottom line is that it’s a combination of things. Can’t just scapegoat the coaches or the players. A combination of those will be held accountable in the offseason, it just remains to be seen how that will play out.

  1632. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seriously, You are here all night trying to upset people. No one is upset. You don’t have a female, a life, friends, you really have nothing do you? Your life must REALLY REALLY SUCK!

  1633. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Well said, for someone in the 2nd grade.
    =================================

    Did you push four year old kids down and take their candy on Halloween troll? Seriously. You must be the single biggest zero on Earth.

  1634. 8==========> Says:
  1635. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    You back again? Bored Phony Seymour. Or just a zero? Which is it
    =====================================
    Ignore this cross posting POS. fck you man. go get a life.

  1636. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Mr Green Says:

    Hope Cork doesn’t get to excited about me breaking some eggs. Won’t happen again. I’ll do my experimenting on maybe a charger or donkey blog. That’ll piss’em off, specially if I get it right. I really wanted that Bullfrog Lane sign.

    :mrgreen: ============================================

    Would’ve traveled the entire ountry to meet you and trade for it!

  1637. Seymour Bush Says:

    I am going to hijack someone’s name and post nonsense because I have no life! No female will go near me.

  1638. 8==========> Says:

    More Emoticons at DesiComments.com

  1639. Seymour Bush Says:

    What’s your problem? The mailman didn’t let you finish? Lips still sore?

  1640. Seymour Bush Says:

    testees

  1641. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    You back again? Bored Phony Seymour. Or just a zero? Which is it
    =====================================
    Ignore this cross posting POS. fck you man. go get a life.
    =======================================

    hahahahahaha. This turd has no friends. It just sits here all night every night. hahahahahahahaha. God your life sucks.

  1642. mac Says:

    really seymour?
    Seriously, You are here all night trying to upset people. No one is upset. You don’t have a female, a life, friends, you really have nothing do you? Your life must REALLY REALLY SUCK!

    pot and kettle,
    but check this out,
    knapp is crap

  1643. Seymour Bush Says:

    I have a hot brazillian waiting for me on the couch, while you fools sit in here discussing a team going no where.
    Losers.

  1644. Mr Green Says:

    Let me tell y’all why the OC play calling is bad. It is because the offense cannot anticipate. When you have a feel for the game you are always anticipating the right play. The OC is not only counter-anticipative, but his timing is way off. Players are on fire when they anticipate a particular series and it goes hteir way, then score. This group never knows what to expect. No feel for the flow, no anticipation.
    Good players anticipate the ball, but when there is no feel for the flow of the game, no ball. Thank You.

    :mrgreen:

  1645. Seymour Bush Says:

    The troll has NO LIFE. You should kill yourself and be done with it. Seriously. You have no life anyway.

  1646. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    You back again? Bored Phony Seymour. Or just a zero? Which is it
    =====================================
    Ignore this cross posting POS. fck you man. go get a life.
    =======================================

    hahahahahaha. This turd has no friends. It just sits here all night every night. hahahahahahahaha. God your life sucks
    ============================
    hahahahaahaha This guy lives for me. I’m all he has in life. Without me, he’s a zero.

  1647. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raiders could find a transcendent defensive talent in this draft. Dion Jordan, Bjoern Werner, and Ziggy Ansah all have that kind of potential.

    As bad as the secondary is, I’m not sure any player in this league could succeed back there with the Raiders getting as little pressure as they have been.

  1648. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    I have a hot brazillian waiting for me on the couch, while you fools sit in here discussing a team going no where.
    Losers.
    =======================================

    hahahahahaha. kill yourself.

  1649. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    I have a hot brazillian waiting for me on the couch, while you fools sit in here discussing a team going no where.
    Losers.
    =========================================
    Jose is hardly a hot brazillian.
    I think he’s Guatemalan.

  1650. mac Says:

    nice MR GREEN
    knapp is crap

  1651. 8==========> Says:

    :| ]

  1652. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jason Cole of Yahoo is saying that there is only 5 teams that could sign Babin with enough cap space to not have to restructure anyone.

    (Atl, Balt, Det, SF, Pitt)

  1653. Seymour Bush Says:

    Joseeee can you seeeee???
    it’s right there.
    The little thing.
    Yeah, that.
    Don’t blame me, I was in the pool.
    It’s shrinkage.
    Keep looking, you’ll find it.

  1654. Seymour Bush Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Raiders could find a transcendent defensive talent in this draft. Dion Jordan, Bjoern Werner, and Ziggy Ansah all have that kind of potential.

    As bad as the secondary is, I’m not sure any player in this league could succeed back there with the Raiders getting as little pressure as they have been.
    ========================================

    Darrel Revis would look awful in our secondary with no rush. Sign Babin.

  1655. 8==========> Says:

    8 – |

  1656. Seymour Bush Says:

    Was it as good for you, as it was for me, Jose?

  1657. KoolKell Says:

    When I ignore Brien, he starts cross posting to get my attention…………..pathetic.

  1658. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    YoungAmerican Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Raiders could find a transcendent defensive talent in this draft. Dion Jordan, Bjoern Werner, and Ziggy Ansah all have that kind of potential.

    As bad as the secondary is, I’m not sure any player in this league could succeed back there with the Raiders getting as little pressure as they have been.
    ========================================

    Darrel Revis would look awful in our secondary with no rush. Sign Babin.
    ============================================
    You cross posting bich.
    Ignore this fool.

  1659. mac Says:

    no run,no rush
    knapp is crap

  1660. mac Says:

    gnite ladys,ps
    knapp is crap,xxxx

  1661. Seymour Bush Says:

    The troll will get depressed and kill itself. Watch.

  1662. KoolKell Says:

    The coaches job is to find problems and fix them. That hasn’t been done this year.

  1663. mac Says:

    live cam?,sweet

  1664. YoungAmerican Says:

    My problem with Babin is lack of discipline v.s. the run. Also, if claimed off waivers, will make almost $2 million from whatever team claims him. He’s 33 years old, and has only produced under Jim Washburn (and even this season didn’t live up to expectations).

    The signing wouldn’t make sense for a team out of contention. Wouldn’t be much of an upgrade over Andre Carder at this point. The Raiders will pass and save some cap room for next year.

  1665. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’ve got a new one for Palmer you guys can feel free to use:

    “Like a festering scab of ineptitude, your “golden haired hero” once again makes a colossal flop…much like a turd that circles around the nfl toilet bowl of unconsciounable failure.

    The Heisman darling failed so miserably that his name would be erased from the annals of nfl record keeping…if not for the fact they need to keep records of such colossal failures so they won’t be repeated in future generations and forever be a stain on the sport of football.

    Like a flubbering, flustering, flubbidy flub his very existence on the football field is an insult to humanity.”.

    There you go.

  1666. mac Says:

    plenty probs kk,no fix as of yet,disconcerting

  1667. Seymour Bush Says:

    So you come on an internet site with the express idea to upset others but they are laughing at you as you waste your life. Time to jump in front of a train troll. Seriously.

  1668. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tackling has been getting worse as the season goes on.

    ***************************

    Cork, for whatever it is worth, says that bad tackling and overpursuing is a sign of a “desperate team”.

    NOt sure I agree though. I think it is just a sign of the front office(s) drafting and bringing in people who aren’t good at tackling.

    Or is that just being too simplistic?

  1669. mac Says:

    we aint tackled in years jfb,

  1670. Seymour Bush Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    My problem with Babin is lack of discipline v.s. the run.
    =====================================

    Babin is not that bad versus the run. He’s not the best but he’s not bad either. He is probably better than what we have by a long shot. It’s not that he was not playing well, Philly just has 10 DL on the roster and they wanted to see what Brandon Graham can do. I don’t blame them.

  1671. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    So you come on an internet site with the express idea to upset others but they are laughing at you as you waste your life. Time to jump in front of a train troll. Seriously
    ====================================
    How is that different from what you do/did? For years you and MR had exchanges where both of you were posting under a handful of different names at one time.
    Pot, meet kettle.

  1672. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would like BAbin from a pure entertainment standpoint.

    Dude is a right-wing, NRA loving, animal -killing freak. I am sure it would play real nice in the Bay Area, lol.

  1673. KoolKell Says:

    Was because of you, Seymour, that this place changed to registration.
    Not that it helped, but it was all on you and your dozens of names.

  1674. YoungAmerican Says:

    Cork, for whatever it is worth, says that bad tackling and overpursuing is a sign of a “desperate team”.

    NOt sure I agree though. I think it is just a sign of the front office(s) drafting and bringing in people who aren’t good at tackling.

    Or is that just being too simplistic?

    ==============

    It’s probably both. How much of one or the other? Who knows.

  1675. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Was it as good for you, as it was for me, Jose?
    =================================

    If that is the best you got, time to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.

  1676. KoolKell Says:

    Sound like Seymour is PO’ed that others were onto his game, and now he can’t stand the fact he’s not in total control of this looney bin.

  1677. mac Says:

    Forget babin for gods sake,all you lot do is scan the wire and want to sign,it aint fanasy football,
    ps
    knapp sucks
    knapp is crap

  1678. KoolKell Says:

    Ok Seymour, he’s hijacked my name now. Fyi

  1679. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    New Topi: Top 5 Nicolas Cage movies?

    GO!

  1680. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How much can coaches really teach tackling at this stage in these players lives? Hell some of these guys are pushing 30 years old.

    Do baseball coaches teach dudes how to catch? Is good coaching only what prevented Matt Stairs from being a stud RF?

    Not buying an inch of it.

  1681. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    So you come on an internet site with the express idea to upset others but they are laughing at you as you waste your life. Time to jump in front of a train troll. Seriously
    ====================================
    How is that different from what you do/did? For years you and MR had exchanges where both of you were posting under a handful of different names at one time.
    Pot, meet kettle.
    ===========================================

    No it wasn’t. What DID happen was a troll, who is probably the same one as beecham, would post as MR and me. That was before registration. And posted as others as well.

  1682. Gdog Says:

    Mr Green Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Let me tell y’all why the OC play calling is bad. It is because the offense cannot anticipate. When you have a feel for the game you are always anticipating the right play. The OC is not only counter-anticipative, but his timing is way off. Players are on fire when they anticipate a particular series and it goes hteir way, then score. This group never knows what to expect. No feel for the flow, no anticipation.
    Good players anticipate the ball, but when there is no feel for the flow of the game, no ball. Thank You.

    >>>>

    Interesting.

    This is largely the problem on defense… and has been for years. We don’t have any players that anticipate the play, they all just react during, or worse yet after it develops, which is too late in the NFL. This got them by in college, because they were bigger and faster than everyone else… but it doesn’t cut notches in a squirt gun in the NFL.

    I played volleyball with people like this for years, and none of them ever were any good at defense unless the ball came right too them by accident. Which is pretty much the story of every single Raider defensive player.

  1683. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    New Topic: Top 5 Nicolas Cage movies?

    GO!

  1684. KoolKell Says:

    If we can’t score points, we’re not going to win many games.

  1685. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    If we can’t score points, we’re not going to win many games.
    ——-
    That is some great insight. How many hours of watching football did it take till you came up with that one?

  1686. mac Says:

    knapp sucks?
    ok
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap
    knapp is crap

  1687. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 27th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    KoolKell Says: