McClain not at practice today for ‘team-related issues’
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said at his daily news conference today that middle linebacker Rolando McClain wasn’t at practice today because of “team-related issues.”
When asked for more specifics, Allen declined.
“No more details, no more comments, just team-related issues,” Allen said.
It’s also unclear whether McClain will be back anytime soon. Allen said “I don’t know that” when asked if McClain would be back at practice Thursday.
If McClain doesn’t play Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, Omar Gaither likely would get the nod. He is a seasoned veteran that is versatile enough to play inside or outside.
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November 28th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Cut Mcjogger already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
cut him
November 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Snow comin down here,..hey man Im tryin to tell all you bittermans,..Alex Smith would be the perfect Raider,..I pray big dummy reggie can land him in February,…probably get him for a 3rd rounder. Palmer bout done and no way in the world they ever let Pryor be a QB,..hes released the night of the Charger loss.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
trade him to the Browns so McFadden can have a field day and he can fly back on the Browns charter.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
If Harbaugh couldn’t save Smith’s career. I don’t know who can.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Reggie has released Rolando. Details will leak out real soon.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Cut McClains ass
November 28th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Reggie has released Rolando. Details will leak out real soon.
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Hope so
November 28th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Norv Turner will work well with Alex Smith,…sounds good to me.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Time to go dummy
November 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Norv is a fk’n good OC. Just not HC material.
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
November 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Among the teams that tried to get Jason Babin: Browns, Chargers, Raiders and Dolphins
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Interesting. Honestly don’t see the rationale behind that move at this point in the season. Not sure Babin is much more than a rotational guy.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
I think Reggie wants to bring back Kampman from The Pack.
lol
November 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Smith has played great in the wco the last couple yrs. And he takes care of the ball. For waay les$$. We need the cap room.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I think the smooth talking Huey could be a good recruiter and influence young gunners to the Bay.
He’s the perfect candidate for Cal.
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you mean aside from him being a loser?
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A guy that supports DA is calling Hue a loser.
Hue may not be a winner, but most certainly wasn’t a loser.
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The difference between me and you Jackson supporters is I realize that as time went on, the team played worse and worse and worse under Jackson. And it STILL has not hit bottom. And just like Jackson, you Jackson supporters feel it was everyone’s fault BUT Jackson. It boggles the mind….
November 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
My four team parlay here at Mont Bleu:
Bears -3.5
Panthers -2.5
Patriots -7.5
Browns PK
Only one Im sweating is Carolina,..KC likes to F my parlay cards over when they can.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
12 . Pass rush specialists are critical to a defensive line rotation
November 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
No thinking Palmer is a decent qb and paying him 16 million dollars next year is crazy.
F that. That could be used on other players. 16 million dollars for a qb that cant even scramble for a first down.
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$3 million already went to him as a signing bonus. The Raiders cannot avoid that part of the cap hit.
They can do something about the remaining $13 million though. Either get him to restructure, trade him or cut him. It’s too much to pay him.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I think the smooth talking Huey could be a good recruiter and influence young gunners to the Bay.
He’s the perfect candidate for Cal.
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you mean aside from him being a loser?
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A guy that supports DA is calling Hue a loser.
Hue may not be a winner, but most certainly wasn’t a loser.
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The difference between me and you Jackson supporters is I realize that as time went on, the team played worse and worse and worse under Jackson. And it STILL has not hit bottom. And just like Jackson, you Jackson supporters feel it was everyone’s fault BUT Jackson. It boggles the mind….
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What has DA and company showed you this season??????
Absolutely nothing!!!
Regression on all parts of our team!
Get real man!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Smith has played great in the wco the last couple yrs. And he takes care of the ball. For waay les$$. We need the cap room.
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Remember, Palmer restructured his deal in the offseason and Smith got $8 million per for 3 years with $$16.5 guaranteed. Not sure how much cheaper Alex Smith really is.
And even then, which Alex Smith are you getting? He was in a WCO before and looked awful. Harbaugh is the only coach who got the most out of him – and even he seems to think that Alex Smith can’t quite take his team to the next level.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Palmer is gone,..get Alex Smith man Im telling you hes going to rock the Raiders and stick it to SF….hes already married to a Raiderette,…might as well join the family all the way. Word.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
12 . Pass rush specialists are critical to a defensive line rotation
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But over his career he’s only been an adequate pass rusher under one coach – Jim Washburn. He’s a liability in all other facets of the game, and was allegedly cut for being a “me-guy”.
Clearly the Raiders see something I don’t on this one. But I think their money would be better spent in the offseason.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Palmer is gone,..get Alex Smith man Im telling you hes going to rock the Raiders and stick it to SF….hes already married to a Raiderette,…might as well join the family all the way. Word.
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We suck anyways, so if he can be obtained at a cheaper price tag than CP3. Than so be it. We can spend some $$$ on the D.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
DMAC Says:
I think the smooth talking Huey could be a good recruiter and influence young gunners to the Bay.
He’s the perfect candidate for Cal.
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I can see the look of horror on parents’ faces when he walks into a high school kid’s home reeking of Irish coffee.
Hue Jackson’s recruiting might work in ghetto homes. But it won’t fly in homes that produce the Aaron Rodgers of the world.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
15-Spot on Seymour.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Dont just cut him trade him for a draft pick a 3rd,a 4th get something for him Reggie…tighten up already
November 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
DMAC Says:
I think the smooth talking Huey could be a good recruiter and influence young gunners to the Bay.
He’s the perfect candidate for Cal.
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I can see the look of horror on parents’ faces when he walks into a high school kid’s home reeking of Irish coffee.
Hue Jackson’s recruiting might work in ghetto homes. But it won’t fly in homes that produce the Aaron Rodgers of the world.
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There are hidden gems in the ghetto that ball!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Repost:
After years of trying to concieve a child with his Wife, Rolando McClain decided to consult a fertility specialist. After a battery of tests, the Doctor tells Rolando, “Well there’s nothing wrong with you physically, you just keep filling the wrong gap”
November 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
20. Yeah i see him as a cheaper stopgap. And id hope cp3 can get us somthing in return.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Dont just cut him trade him for a draft pick a 3rd,a 4th get something for him Reggie…tighten up already
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No one is going to give up anything for McClain at this point.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
The difference between me and you Jackson supporters is I realize that as time went on, the team played worse and worse and worse under Jackson. And it STILL has not hit bottom. And just like Jackson, you Jackson supporters feel it was everyone’s fault BUT Jackson. It boggles the mind…
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Its been ugly since day 1 w/ DA!!!!!!!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
The diatribe claiming that supporters of TP being racist is tired and cumbersome. Give it a rest, you’re more boring than that lame, futile dude with the party boat trapped in the 80’s.
Palmer is by far the best QB we have, but it is stupid that Pryor has not seen the field in some capacity. Why not give him some looks as wildcat or situational QB to make the defense account for him ? Why not pull some gadget plays from the backfield, line him up in the slot and fake reverses or get the ball in his hands as a second QB on the field. He’s not ready to start at QB but could get involved in some way and get some reps.
No creativity at all !!! Predictable and ineffective offense! Maybe our red zone offense would be better ? Cam Newton has 20 running TD s the last two years. More than our entire team ! Pryor could do it too. Triple threat in the red zone !
November 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
#68
Yes, lmfao.
You’re labeled as a racist.
So you cut and paste the definition of RACE?
Not about racism, but race?
You’re rather clueless, in general, aren’t you?
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cross poster do you not speak english?
Race is the root word of racist and racism
They are inseparable mr wizard, like run and running.
you must have been absent from school that day
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Wow. You really are an idiot.
The word race, and racism are the same?
You get challenged on your racism, you post the definition of RACE, and then state they are one and the same?
How can you be this stupid?
Race: a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
Racism: hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
And to your small narrow bigoted mind the above are the same?
And you wonder why everyone picks on you, ad nauseam?
This would be more entertaining, if only it weren’t so easy.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Raiders put in a Claim for BABIN per Vic tafar. OH WELL.. .back to the drawing board for REGGIE
I bet he is gonna be pissed with Jax. I thought the Raiders should have put a claim for BABIN then traded him in the offseason.
OH WELL. STill 5 weeks for him to get cut again.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DMAC Says:
Its been ugly since day 1 w/ DA!!!!!!!
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I think that’s his point. It’s just been a continuation of the ugliness that started midway through 2011. DA just hasn’t been able to stop it at this point, except for the penalty problem.
I’m not saying DA will definitely be a great coach. But he has to get another season, combined with a pretty serious roster turnover, to see what he can do.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
SMITH is still a young Player with plenty of Knowledge. Probaly better then drafting a qb at this point.
No Qb in this draft look like they are worth taking before the 4th round. We dont have the luxury of picks to waste one on a qb .. unless REGGIE Really likes one. Scouts have been at Collin Kleins games alot too.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
On 3rd and 10 you need a babin type rush end.. but it doesnt matter i knew we couldnt get him.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
We’re sitting at 3-8. We get blown out every time we step onto the field.
Our team doesn’t even have an identity!
And some of you want……..
CONTINUITY?????
gtfoh
All I’m saying is if Hue got the boot after a 8-8 season, than why should we stick w/ DA????????
November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
The Jaguars just claimed Jason Babin off waivers
November 28th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
22.YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
12 . Pass rush specialists are critical to a defensive line rotation
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But over his career he’s only been an adequate pass rusher under one coach – Jim Washburn. He’s a liability in all other facets of the game, and was allegedly cut for being a “me-guy”.
Clearly the Raiders see something I don’t on this one. But I think their money would be better spent in the offseason.
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But if they had him in the fold they could work out a deal for another year at least.
The guy had 18 sacks last yr. and 12 the prior yr.
Only 5 this yr. but that is more than ANYONE we have currently.
Are we hoping to get a 20 sack guy, who is young..and cheap?
Good luck w/ that.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Ghost to the post… Drop it. You’re babbling
November 28th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Bring back Gruden.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Team got worse under Jackson because he did 1 thing he shouldnt have done and let Breshnahan call the D.and i can guarantee that we weren’t running the man press schemes on either of those 99 yard drives either.Hue ran the O Bresh ran the D (Although I will say it was bad coaching to not to have a runningback to spell Mike Bush from time to time,even Hue didnt know all of the wonders and talents of the one we call Reece
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
I’m not saying DA will definitely be a great coach. But he has to get another season, combined with a pretty serious roster turnover, to see what he can do.
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I understand we can’t keep having entire coaching turnovers every year. But I just hate the current excuse of “Wait till next year before we start doing our Job” from this new regieme. Show me something to look foward to now is all we ask.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
If we lose to the Jags a while back Babin is a Raider. Just win baby.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Missing Practice for “Team related issues” sounds like punishment to me…maybe he is running laps somewhere…LOL
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Babin would have been a good TRADE CHIP this offseason. Probaly at least a 3-4th rounder .
That jags fools gold game cost the Raiders. So even when they win.. they CANT WIN lol RAIDDDDDERS!!!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Damn, we should have lost to the Jaguars.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Palmer is gone,..
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AND you are putting money on Carolina MINUS points? ON THE ROAD?? Whoah dude, stop puffing the waa.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
That’s true!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Norco Bob is playing with you guys…. He and the rest of us know that Alex Smith sucks. He’s just acting out because of pain
November 28th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Team got worse under Jackson because he did 1 thing he shouldnt have done and let Breshnahan call the D.
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How’s about half the season when he scored NO SECOND HALF POINTS! Was that Bresnahan’s fault too?
November 28th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Maybe McClain got suspended for using speed.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Sorry that post was based on the Jags game…we win, we lose the Babin deal!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
But if they had him in the fold they could work out a deal for another year at least.
The guy had 18 sacks last yr. and 12 the prior yr.
Only 5 this yr. but that is more than ANYONE we have currently.
Are we hoping to get a 20 sack guy, who is young..and cheap?
Good luck w/ that.
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If it was up to me, I’d just wait until the offseason. Build through the draft in a pass rusher-heavy class. If you’re going to spend money do it on younger, cheaper players who can bolster depth at other positions.
Just don’t see the point in taking on substantial guaranteed money in 2013 on a one-dimensional 33-year-old player.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“maybe he is running laps somewhere…”
LMFAO I forgot who I was talking about he is “Jogging” laps not “Running” laps
November 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Scott Sullivan @ScottSully24
If the Raiders do cut Rolando McClain it’s like Christmas came early for me #YEAAAAAAH
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November 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
#68
Yes, lmfao.
You’re labeled as a racist.
So you cut and paste the definition of RACE?
Not about racism, but race?
You’re rather clueless, in general, aren’t you?
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cross poster do you not speak english?
Race is the root word of racist and racism
They are inseparable mr wizard, like run and running.
you must have been absent from school that day
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Wow. You really are an idiot.
The word race, and racism are the same?
You get challenged on your racism, you post the definition of RACE, and then state they are one and the same?
How can you be this stupid?
Race: a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
Racism: hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
And to your small narrow bigoted mind the above are the same?
And you wonder why everyone picks on you, ad nauseam?
This would be more entertaining, if only it weren’t so easy.
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what an idiot
is the word race the root of racism?
Ism is a suffix appended to the word race.
There could be no racism, if a system of classification for humans called race did not exist in the first place.
Like drink and drinking, stop and stopping and so on.
you cant be this stupid.
wow this is clearly either mac20 or mr, they are the only ones that refuse to acknowledge basic concepts in order to further there baseless arguments.
give it up
Any action, practice, or belief that reflects the racial worldview—the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races,” that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral features, and that some “races” are innately superior to others. Racism was at the heart of North American slavery and the overseas colonization and empire-building activities of some western Europeans, especially in the 18th century. The idea of race was invented to magnify the differences between people of European origin in the U.S. and those of African descent whose ancestors had been brought against their will to function as slaves in the American South. By viewing Africans and their descendants as lesser human beings, the proponents of slavery attempted to justify and maintain this system of exploitation while at the same time portraying the U.S. as a bastion and champion of human freedom, with human rights, democratic institutions, unlimited opportunities, and equality. The contradiction between slavery and the ideology of human equality, accompanying a philosophy of human freedom and dignity, seemed to demand the dehumanization of those enslaved. By the 19th century racism had matured and the idea spread around the world. Racism differs from ethnocentrism in that it is linked to physical and therefore immutable differences among people.– miriam webster
racism is not an emotion it is a system dumbass
November 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
McCheese is probably “jogging” while the rest of the team practices
November 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Babin would have been a good TRADE CHIP this offseason. Probaly at least a 3-4th rounder .
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If the Eagles knew Babin had that kind of value he would have either been gone before the trade deadline, or they would have held onto him until the offseason.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Yup….. we should have done the FIRESALE.. babin and the top pick could be ours.. told you nerds..
November 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
wow just when i thought things couldnt possibly get worse…glad im not playing against a trent richardson ffl team…
November 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
McClain is j-mac #2, fat lazy idiot who got payed and now doesnt care. cut his sorry assss. i want heads to start rolling. McClain would be a good start then Krapp can follow in his footsteps.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
“Maybe McClain got suspended for using speed.”
YOu did it you put McClain and Speed in the same sentence!
November 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
55, I respect your opinion YA as always, but i have heard he is more “middle of the road” on run d than a liability.
I’m encouraged they at least tried to make the team better by at least going through the motions of putting in a claim.
Although it may have been just for show and figured they wouldn’t get him anyway.
After DA publicly stated “We don’t have pass rushers” I think they had to at least pretend they were willing to address it.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Mistic , teach him about the ” defendants of Ham”
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I’m just glad I never bought the man’s jersey.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Descendants
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Didnt have to throw Pryor to the wolves.Knapp could have opened up his playbook or borrowed a few from Saunders for that matter(Im sure he’s got plenty)bring him inhere and there just to get his feet wet and make his adjustment to the speed of the game even if its some slash packages.its bigger than pryor IMO there’s too much firepower and playmakers to be used and Knapp and company wont use them,so Jones isnt good enuff to block and run all season on active squad,bring stewart in 3 days prior to a game and give him touches,man kiss my.Anybody in this blog that finds justice and logic in these kind of actions Let Me Know.Mr Davis was old and power tripping and making questionable decisions.Whats the excuse for our 40 sumthing coach
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Rihanna sporting a Rolando McClain jersey:
http://www.icowobas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/b6119__rihanna-camo-studio.jpg
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
We’re sitting at 3-8. We get blown out every time we step onto the field.
Our team doesn’t even have an identity!
And some of you want……..
CONTINUITY?????
gtfoh
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How is this different from the last ten years? Allen and McKenzie inherited a mish-mash of players hardly any of which fit what they are trying to do here. When you have a mish mash of players, you DON’T have an identity. What identity did Jackson’s team have? A bully? More like a bunch of guys who couldn’t practice so they could get their nails done.
November 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I’m just glad I never bought the man’s jersey.
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Rihanna did.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
But if they had him in the fold they could work out a deal for another year at least.
The guy had 18 sacks last yr. and 12 the prior yr.
Only 5 this yr. but that is more than ANYONE we have currently.
Are we hoping to get a 20 sack guy, who is young..and cheap?
Good luck w/ that.
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If it was up to me, I’d just wait until the offseason. Build through the draft in a pass rusher-heavy class. If you’re going to spend money do it on younger, cheaper players who can bolster depth at other positions.
Just don’t see the point in taking on substantial guaranteed money in 2013 on a one-dimensional 33-year-old player.
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the only guaranteed money was 1.6 for this year,,doesnt matter anyway..jags got him
November 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
McCheese probably realized that DA is causing him and the rest of the team to regress and popped off
November 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Bad news: We lose out on Babin
Good News: We rid ourselves of the cancer and liability that IS Rolando McClain.
(I hope)
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@ Seymore post my whole post dont cut and paste on me.Did I not say not having someone to spell Mike Bush was on Hue.Dont misconscrew me my man
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
alex smith=jason campbell
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
We’re sitting at 3-8. We get blown out every time we step onto the field.
Our team doesn’t even have an identity!
And some of you want……..
CONTINUITY?????
gtfoh
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How is this different from the last ten years? Allen and McKenzie inherited a mish-mash of players hardly any of which fit what they are trying to do here. When you have a mish mash of players, you DON’T have an identity. What identity did Jackson’s team have? A bully? More like a bunch of guys who couldn’t practice so they could get their nails done.
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A guy that managed to get his nails done during the season still has a better winning record, than DA.
Thats a fact jack!
LMAO
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I suspect the real reason TP hasn’t seen a lot of snaps is quite simple.
You have to shine in practice before you get the chance to step on the field during a game. Many who shine in practice (no contact on qb’s)struggle mightily when in a game.
Can’t recall someone who looked bad in practice, be inserted into a game, who then shined.
I suspect DA’s comments about how TP is getting better, and is working hard, but isn’t quite there yet, means what it says. He’s just not ready.
Others have pointed out, correctly, that a qb’s bad play many times leads to injuries to other players, especially badly thrown balls.
TP will get his chance, and the team should wisely pick that chance when he has the best opportunity to look good, and help the team.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@ Seymore post my whole post dont cut and paste on me.Did I not say not having someone to spell Mike Bush was on Hue.Dont misconscrew me my man
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Sorry, you know your stuff.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
This regime makes Al seem sane
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I’m just glad I never bought the man’s jersey.
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Rihanna did.
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She must really like dem Raiders.
Wasn’t she fking DMAC last year?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Speculation on twitter is that McClain was going to be cut to make room for Babin.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
McClain, Huff and Kelly need to be cut. Especially before their bad habits begin to rub off on guys like Burris, Houston and Branch is already catching some of Huff’s bad tackling tendencies.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
what does DA know? Seems to me his answers are always…”I dont know that…”
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
A guy that managed to get his nails done during the season still has a better winning record, than DA.
Thats a fact jack!
LMAO
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Not at the end of the season he didn’t.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I’m just glad I never bought the man’s jersey.
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Rihanna did.
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She must really like dem Raiders.
Wasn’t she fking DMAC last year?
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I don’t know. You were there, not me.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
55, I respect your opinion YA as always, but i have heard he is more “middle of the road” on run d than a liability.
I’m encouraged they at least tried to make the team better by at least going through the motions of putting in a claim.
Although it may have been just for show and figured they wouldn’t get him anyway.
After DA publicly stated “We don’t have pass rushers” I think they had to at least pretend they were willing to address it.
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I don’t know, the Eagles were rotating him out on 1st and 2nd down in favor of Hunt, Graham, and Curry. He has a great first step, but I see him losing contain a lot because he doesn’t have much of a counter move, especially when he’s already shot upfield.
Maybe he would have helped. But if he can’t make an impact on a defense as bad as the Eagles’, I’m not sure how he’d do it on a much worse defense.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Speculation on twitter is that McClain was going to be cut to make room for Babin.
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No
I think he’s going to be cut and be replaced by his ex-teammate from Bama.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
DA is losing the team.
This is the first sign.
Rolando is revolting against the new regime.
Who’s next?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I’m just glad I never bought the man’s jersey.
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Rihanna did.
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She must really like dem Raiders.
Wasn’t she fking DMAC last year?
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I don’t know. You were there, not me.
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lmao
I’m the Mexican/Peruvian DMAC.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
51.BabySlash Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Norco Bob is playing with you guys…. He and the rest of us know that Alex Smith sucks. He’s just acting out because of pain
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Wonder what Method would say to picking up ex-fairy-niner Alex Smith…
November 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Judge . Why cut Huff ? He’s the best CB we have
November 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Maybe Mcjogger and Kell can jog Alameda beach in the mornings now.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Hue was doing well until Al died and they gave him GM capabilites. He began making roster moves and talent evaluation rather than just be a Coach. If Reggie could’ve just come in and keep Hue in check, then i believe he would’ve been a good coach.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
the only guaranteed money was 1.6 for this year,,doesnt matter anyway..jags got him
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You’re right, my bad. Thought he had a $4 million bonus after this season, but that was already paid by the Eagles this season.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Trust me I do@ Seymore I’ve been following and rooting since the Jim Plunkett,Marc Wilson days.and in hindsight some of Mr Davis moves as Ive gotten older make me say damm.Especially with Marcus.But thats for another day mane…..
November 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
A guy that managed to get his nails done during the season still has a better winning record, than DA.
Thats a fact jack!
LMAO
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Not at the end of the season he didn’t.
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Ok man
smh
November 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
83.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Speculation on twitter is that McClain was going to be cut to make room for Babin.
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I heard he pistol-whipped D. Allen….he deserved it.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Hue was doing well until Al died and they gave him GM capabilites. He began making roster moves and talent evaluation rather than just be a Coach. If Reggie could’ve just come in and keep Hue in check, then i believe he would’ve been a good coach.
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Bingo!!
November 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
88,
YA, is it possible this is the first stage of tearing down the foundation of the “dream team” for the rebuild that’s coming next yr.?
I’m guessing on this.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
93.BabySlash Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Judge . Why cut Huff ? He’s the best CB we have
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I’m tired of Huff doing just enough each year to make you think he can be good. He’s not. He gives at least one back breaking play each week and he’s also a jogger when a ball carrier gets past him.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
88,
YA, is it possible this is the first stage of tearing down the foundation of the “dream team” for the rebuild that’s coming next yr.?
I’m guessing on this.
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Wouldn’t doubt it one bit. That Philly team is getting blowed up this offseason for sure. Reid and his staff, Vick, Asomugha, DRC, who knows who else.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
DA is losing the team.
This is the first sign.
Rolando is revolting against the new regime.
Who’s next?
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GOOD!! McClain is not good enough to revolt. If McClain is “revolting” he is going to be working at a car wash in Tuscaloosa in a week.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Why does DA deserve another shot?
Name one thing he’s done for our team???
Please don’t say he cut down on penalties.
Routt is no longer here. “Flase start” Barnes has been out.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
He gives at least one back breaking play each week and he’s also a jogger when a ball carrier gets past him.
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Not last week. Held A.J. Green in check, in fact.
I’m not a huge Huff fan by any means, but at this point he’s the least of the Raiders’ problems.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
#58
Let’s see if I have this straight.
Pretty much everyone on this board either believes you are a racist POS, and has stated such, or believes it and can’t be bothered to engage, and your answer to that is to post a definition of RACE, while stating you, as a black man, CAN’T BE RACIST??
When Kell calls a white person peckerwood, that’s not being racist, because a black man is saying it?
When you call a white guy a cracker, that’s not racist, because a black man is saying it?
BUT if a white person calls you the N word, then THEY are racist?
You are very likely the biggest bigot, and racist scum this board has ever had posting.
And considering Kell and priest, that says alot.
Well, let’s check the scoreboard.
Couple dozen posters: Mistic is a racist lowlife.
Mistic: I can’t be racist, because I’m black.
You do know you’re becoming the laughingstock here, right?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I suspect the real reason TP hasn’t seen a lot of snaps is quite simple.
You have to shine in practice before you get the chance to step on the field during a game.
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untrue many players have struggled in practice and still get the nod
How about jamarcuss russel? Notoriously bad in practice still got starts
Tim tebow, bad in practice still got the starst
ponder gabbert locker struggled in practice and got the start
i could name a million guys, it happens all of the time
November 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
the revolution has started…whats DA gonna do? suspend everyone…lol. I imagine the commish will be coming in for a visit soon as well as the nflpa…good, stick it to reggie!
November 28th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
106.YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
He gives at least one back breaking play each week and he’s also a jogger when a ball carrier gets past him.
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Not last week. Held A.J. Green in check, in fact.
I’m not a huge Huff fan by any means, but at this point he’s the least of the Raiders’ problems.
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He had a good week vs the bengals and vs the Falcons. That’s two weeks out of 11. Like i said, just enough to make you want to keep him around. He’s been a better CB than Saftey but at this point he’s part of this teams cancer. Can’t keep him around and expect to change the mentality of this franchise. It’s just a shame it took this long to figure out something he’s decent at.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Hue was doing well until Al died and they gave him GM capabilites. He began making roster moves and talent evaluation rather than just be a Coach. If Reggie could’ve just come in and keep Hue in check, then i believe he would’ve been a good coach.
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Bingo!!
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EVERY decent coach WANTS control of the roster. That was the kiss of death from Al Davis to every coach of the Raiders over the last twenty years. Can you imagine trying to develop Marinovich or Jamarcus or Jerry Porter the whole time you are trying to get ready for the next tough opponent? Jackson HAD control and the team got worse and worse and worse. And some of you guys want to buy him a present.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Huffy needs to restructure period!
If not, he can kick rocks.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Seymour
Answer the ????
105
November 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Why does DA deserve another shot?
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Because if you’re going to take on a massive rebuild then you owe it to you coaching staff to let them do the “build” part. Can’t shed $30 million in salary, give your staff 6 draft picks, none of which are in the first three rounds, and then blame the coach for not turning the team into a contender in year 1.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
79.Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I suspect the real reason TP hasn’t seen a lot of snaps is quite simple.
You have to shine in practice before you get the chance to step on the field during a game. Many who shine in practice (no contact on qb’s)struggle mightily when in a game.
Can’t recall someone who looked bad in practice, be inserted into a game, who then shined.
I suspect DA’s comments about how TP is getting better, and is working hard, but isn’t quite there yet, means what it says. He’s just not ready.
Others have pointed out, correctly, that a qb’s bad play many times leads to injuries to other players, especially badly thrown balls.
TP will get his chance, and the team should wisely pick that chance when he has the best opportunity to look good, and help the team.
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DA also has failed to use Marcel Reece more often which in light of how he’s produced for us seems like something he missed on.
I don’t trust DA at all. I have no faith until he shows me something. THREE consecutive humiliating beatdowns which have never before happened in Raiders HISTORY have me a little speculative.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I think the dude from Bama the Raiders just signed was the guy Rolando blew a cap past his ear,…so, Reggie told Rolando he gotta git.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Huffy needs to restructure period!
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Already did in the offseason.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
DMAC,…stop it man, DA will be here for years. Move on to another gripe.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Why does DA deserve another shot?
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Because if you’re going to take on a massive rebuild then you owe it to you coaching staff to let them do the “build” part. Can’t shed $30 million in salary, give your staff 6 draft picks, none of which are in the first three rounds, and then blame the coach for not turning the team into a contender in year 1.
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Hue was 1 and done.
DA should be gone 2.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I would still like to see MCclain play in the 3-4 with a good NT in front of him. He has played in a piss poor D since being drafted.
I could see the Pats picking up McClain up when Cut.. or even the Ravens.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
untrue many players have struggled in practice and still get the nod
How about jamarcuss russel? Notoriously bad in practice still got starts
Tim tebow, bad in practice still got the starst
ponder gabbert locker struggled in practice and got the start
i could name a million guys, it happens all of the time
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True, but none of those guys had an overall number one, Heisman, two time Pro Bowl Q, who has led the league in TD’s and is playing well in front of them. Oh right, everyone sees that Palmer is playing well but you.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
four beatdowns consecutively
November 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Huffy needs to restructure period!
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Already did in the offseason.
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Needs 2 again.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I don’t hate DA, but he fked up this team w/ a HORRIBLE coaching staff HE personally hired!
November 28th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
111.Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
EVERY decent coach WANTS control of the roster. That was the kiss of death from Al Davis to every coach of the Raiders over the last twenty years. Can you imagine trying to develop Marinovich or Jamarcus or Jerry Porter the whole time you are trying to get ready for the next tough opponent? Jackson HAD control and the team got worse and worse and worse. And some of you guys want to buy him a present.
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Every Decent coach who gets control of the roster fails. It’s just too much work to evaluate talent and Prepare a team each week. Gruden won a SB and got personell input in Tampa, that was the begining of his downfall. Same for Mike Shanahan, won a SB and they let him do what ever he wanted. A coach should be a coach that’s it.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Next man up
FK continuity!
November 28th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@YoungAmerican
Understand DA assessment.
Do you think they (Allen) are going to get new coordinators?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Yall must like getting slapped around every weekend.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Don’t just cut him trade him for a draft pick a 3rd,a 4th get something for him Reggie…tighten up already
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We’d be lucky to get a 2020 7th-rounder for McChump. Dude’s worthless, and everybody knows it.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Seymour stip it bri, you’re making yourself look bad defending DA. Wether hee scored in the 1st half or second half hue showed us more than DA is showing us now and DA has no excuse because he has more control over this tean than hue had. All these poobut coordinators and waiver players that DA has brought in he picked himself, and no one he has brought in here has done aq dam thing, “no one ” including himself. He’s failed in every way possible as a coach, atleast hue got production out of some of his players, DA has made no one better. He is the true loser.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
My four team parlay here at Mont Bleu:
Bears -3.5
Panthers -2.5
Patriots -7.5
Browns PK
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Mr Gruden
What is the bet and what are the odds or payout if you will?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Stop it bro* … typo
November 28th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DMAC Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Why does DA deserve another shot?
Name one thing he’s done for our team???
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The jury is still out. We have almost a third of the season left. If I know my NFL coaches they are going to try to win games and build for next year. But if the season ended today, I can see your argument. Personally, I would not fire the HC for a couple of reasons: I think he has been saddled with a high salary underperforming roster, like the other 5-6 coaches right in front of him. 2ndly, I think he has been saddled by some weak coordinators. Reggie McKenzie took his time hiring his HC. By the time he did, the good coordinators and other coaches were gone. Allen should be able to evaluate his roster, make some changes, upgrade the staff, and then lets see what we have. That is my feeling.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
I gotta run peoples!
I’m sorry for repeating myself but…….
I don’t hate DA, but he fked up this team w/ a HORRIBLE coaching staff HE personally hired!
You want accountability DA?
Fire yourself and the rest of this clown ass coaching staff!
November 28th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
#58
Let’s see if I have this straight.
Pretty much everyone on this board either believes you are a racist POS, and has stated such, or believes it and can’t be bothered to engage, and your answer to that is to post a definition of RACE, while stating you, as a black man, CAN’T BE RACIST??
When Kell calls a white person peckerwood, that’s not being racist, because a black man is saying it?
When you call a white guy a cracker, that’s not racist, because a black man is saying it?
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pay attention
the majority of people in Europe once believed the world was flat, we know that proved untrue. So just because a few trolls here want to believe something also doesnt make it true.
Knowledge is superior to belief and i dont fit the definition or have the power to implement the system of racism. It is exclusive property and a power construct created by whites for whites.
I have never called any white people ‘cracker” or anything else on this board
You are making things up mr/mac20
i have already proven the origin of the power construct known as racism and the origin of the entire concept of race.
If you fail to comprehend study on your own, so you may be informed.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
this whole thing is gonna crash and burn
matt millen style! well at the very least it will be entertaining…i wanna see DA cry.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Hue was 1 and done.
DA should be gone 2.
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Hue was Al’s coach. Not Mark’s or Reggie’s. If you’re going to have to completely rebuild (and Hue or not, the Raiders were going to need to), then the new regime needs to be able to pick a guy who shares their vision.
Remember, this is a dramatic rebuild. The guy who ran football operations for 60 years is gone. In his wake he left a poor roster, lack of draft picks, and unsustainable salary cap situation.
New regime needed to be put in place. You can’t handcuff them. Give them a chance to make a roster the way THEY know how, with long-term goals in mind. That’s the only way you can build a winner in this league. If it’s more of the same in 3 years, then it’ll someone else’s chance to turn it around – but at least this time the franchise will operate the way modern franchises do and the next regime won’t be starting from nothing.
Don’t give me the “we were 8-8 last year!” bull. The cap situation was coming one way or another. Hue wasn’t going to have any more draft picks than McKenzie and Allen had to work with.
Yes, you want continuity within your organization – front office, coaching staff, roster – but that wasn’t in the cards regardless. Even if they kept Hue and Al Saunders in their positions, the whole rest of the organization was going to change around them. Might as well bring in guys who are all going to be on the same page.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Knowledge is superior to belief and i dont fit the definition or have the power to implement the system of racism. It is exclusive property and a power construct created by whites for whites.
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bullsh*t
November 28th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The Mack Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Seymour stip it bri, you’re making yourself look bad defending DA. Wether hee scored in the 1st half or second half hue showed us more than DA is showing us now and DA has no excuse because he has more control over this tean than hue had.
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Dude, you must be high. REALLY HIGH. lst off, Jackson went 0-5, errr, 1-4 to end the season. That is AWFUL. Jackson was also getting BLOWN OUT badly in games. The big difference between Allen and Jackson is Jackson made idiotic bone headed decisions over and over and over. Remember the Cleveland game where Jackson could have kicked a 18 yard FG to make it a two possession game, but didn’t? Then went for it, didn’t get it and should have lost? Or how’s about the Detroit game where we were up by 12 with 7 minutes to go and he doesn’t go for two? And then we lose by one? Remember that? Those were BONEHEADED Decisions. You say DA has more control than Jackson? HUH? What is McKenzie doing in his office? Playing Dungeons and Dragons? The ghost of Al still ran Jacksons team?? Puh-lease. Put down the waa dude.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Keeping around incompetent people for the sake of continuity isn’t the recepie for success. See Norv Turner in San Diego for an example.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
If DA didnt like the talent here he should of stayed an assistant and waited for a position that suited him came along instead of fkn up our team. Hue didnt get worse we juswt lost a few close games, Da on the other hand is getting blown out every fk. Sunday. We got blew out by a 1 loss gb team in greenbay last year and a Superbowl contending patriots team, with Da at the helm we’re getting bent over by average teams like the bucs and No at home. Rookie rbs and qbs are tearing us apart.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Now, are McKenzie, Allen and their staff responsible for this roster underachieving? Sure, they have their part in that. The Brisiel and Tollefson signings haven’t panned out, the defensive scheme has failed to adjust, and fundamentals have been poor even with the penalty situation improving.
But you can’t give a coaching staff one of the 5 worst rosters in the league and expect miracles. The coaching needs to be better, but the talent level needs to get better along with it.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
They must have jumped in Rolando’s Rump pretty good.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
im tired of seeing guys like Briesel and Tollefson on the field. Guys like Girodano.
F’n wack players. Lets get some Real players in here.
If Dashon Goldson is a FA next year .. lock him up REGGIE. A true ball hawk and will lay out ppl over the middle.
Wont be getting trucked like Branch or girodano did last game
November 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Rolando’s biggest highlight as a Raider
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1HQr1YWkJM
November 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
untrue many players have struggled in practice and still get the nod
How about jamarcuss russel? Notoriously bad in practice still got starts
Tim tebow, bad in practice still got the starst
ponder gabbert locker struggled in practice and got the start
i could name a million guys, it happens all of the time
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True, but none of those guys had an overall number one, Heisman, two time Pro Bowl Q, who has led the league in TD’s and is playing well in front of them. Oh right, everyone sees that Palmer is playing well but you.
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the notion that palmer is ‘playing well” is inconsequential at this point. that would only matter if we were competing for a playoff spot and we clearly are not.
Now out of the playoffs it is time to evaluate the young qb so we may know if he is the future.
Why is that difficult to understand, it is a common nfl practice and has been for decades.
Also the notion that palmer is playing well is debatable.
i say he played decently until the atl game, he has not maintained the that level of play since
pre atl 5 tds 3 turn overs
post atl 13td 14 turn overs
i would say that over all it is only mediocre and not really “playing well’, but it is beside the point either way
November 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
But you can’t give a coaching staff one of the 5 worst rosters in the league and expect miracles. The coaching needs to be better, but the talent level needs to get better along with it.
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But, the offensive talent was just fine last year?!?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
2012 the year of the excuse, 2013 there are no excuses
November 28th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
But you can’t give a coaching staff one of the 5 worst rosters in the league and expect miracles. The coaching needs to be better, but the talent level needs to get better along with it.
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But, the offensive talent was just fine last year?!?
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Raiders could have the best offense in the NFL and they would still be 6-6 because of the terrible defense.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
But you can’t give a coaching staff one of the 5 worst rosters in the league and expect miracles. The coaching needs to be better, but the talent level needs to get better along with it.
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But, the offensive talent was just fine last year?!?
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They performed better at times but were similarly flawed. Putting up points hasn’t really been any more of an issue this year. The real concern is that the defense seems to be even worse than an historically bad defense from last season, even with a new DC and a supposedly improved scheme.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
While McJog never did squat but lay out spoles and glad he is gone, I would not b surprised at all if he does better on his next team.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
2012 the year of the excuse, 2013 there are no excuses
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I agree, and I’m sure everyone inside the organization knows that dramatic improvement needs to be made in 2013.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I still don’t understand why Reggie couldn’t have kept Wylie, Wiz, and Saunders on the staff to continue last year’s offense UNDER Dennis Allen’s choice for OC, Knapp.
I understand that Allen was set to pick his own staff, but if you’re going to try and be competitive this year (and apparently, they tried) then do what everyone wanted them to do and focus on the defense while keeping the offense stable for this season.
Allen could have appointed his own OC while still retaining the same offensive structure. Reggie needed at least one season to clear cap room, at which point they could have then overhauled the line for the ZBS. All they would have had to do was re-sign Satele.
Hindsight is 20/20, but for someone who is supposed to be deliberate, Reggie tried to change too much too fast.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/cincinnati-bengals-ot-andrew-whitworth-says-oakland-raiders-who-hit-him-are-cowards/2012/11/28/7ebe5c50-39a3-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_story.html
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cowards are the teammates that didn’t back you up
November 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Show me something to look foward to now is all we ask.
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Well if McClain is on his way out the door, then we definitely have something to look forward to. That is a good start.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
DA / Reggie supporters don’t have a leg to stand on.
Their Argument: Dennis Allen is better than Hue Jackson.
Their Excuse for a noncompetitive 3-8 team-: What did you expect? They inherited a mess. There’s no talent on this roster.
Well, which one is it? If the talent is so bad, how did Hue Jack coach them up to 8-8? If Hue Jack was not a good coach, not far superior to DA, then we have at least 8-8 talent on this team and anything less represents failed coaching and leadership.
You’ve got nothing. There is nothing logical or tangible to support your argument.
Face it: You banked on Al Davis being the one thing holding this team back and getting a “real GM” and his handpicked coach would improve things. They haven’t. They’ve botched pretty much everything including somehow making our D substantially worse than it was under Chuck B.
We were better off with Hue.-
November 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Im high? You mention that Cleveland game talking about we barely won, but point is we won. Even with that decision he did enough for us to still pull it out. And how can you blame him for that Detroit loss when we were up 2 possessions in the “4th” youd expect your D to be able to hold a 2 score lead in the fourth and theres no guarantee we would have converted it… even with that though he called the right plays to march us down field for a game winning field goal but it got blocked. That game wasnt on him that was on chuck bresnahan who hue had nothing to do with his being here who hue was going to replace. Hue scored enough points to win the D let him down, Da is a defensive coach and he isnt stopping anybody. He has done nothing to show he deserves to be here next year, i see no promise in this guy.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
They performed better at times but were similarly flawed. Putting up points hasn’t really been any more of an issue this year. The real concern is that the defense seems to be even worse than an historically bad defense from last season, even with a new DC and a supposedly improved scheme.
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Last year we had a Top Oline, Top running game, and these people came in and tore it up.
Why in Hell would anyone come in a tear up a good oline? Good, Well Organized Olines don’t grow on trees you know?
November 28th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
the notion that palmer is ‘playing well” is inconsequential at this point.
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Of course it is not inconsequential. We had this discussion already. There are players that are going to be on your roster next year. The analogy I gave you was do you bench your best player the last couple of games as a pee wee coach because some loud mouth idiotic parent wants his lame ass kid to play Q? The answer is what kind of message does that send to all the other players? I can tell you: it sends a very bad message.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I bet McClain goes to a 3-4 team and becomes an above average LB.
I have always said he needs someone next to him. Just watch, the kid is not done in the NFL.
Just one more example of the Raiders misusing a talent.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
This group
Can’t Run
Can’t convert 3rd downs
Cant score in the Red Zone
November 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
The worst part is our o-line coaches were still available at the time: Wiz and Wylie. Don’t see why they would mess with that unit in the first year of a transition period.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
BabySlash Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Mistic , teach him about the ” defendants of Ham”
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I would pay money to hear this
November 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Trent Richardson was just talking up McClain, saying he will be great when he gets some better players around him.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The Mack Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Im high? You mention that Cleveland game talking about we barely won, but point is we won. Even with that decision he did enough for us to still pull it out. And how can you blame him for that Detroit loss when we were up 2 possessions in the “4th” youd expect your D to be able to hold a 2 score lead in the fourth and theres no guarantee we would have converted it… even with that though he called the right plays to march us down field for a game winning field goal but it got blocked. That game wasnt on him that was on chuck bresnahan who hue had nothing to do with his being here who hue was going to replace. Hue scored enough points to win the D let him down, Da is a defensive coach and he isnt stopping anybody. He has done nothing to show he deserves to be here next year, i see no promise in this guy.
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I respect your opinion and I can see why a lot of fans don’t have confidence in Allen. But in the examples I used that you countered, yes, the FG against Detroit was blocked. But it was a 66 yard FG attempt. If Jackson needs to do something that has never been done before to win, he doesn’t deserve to win. And in the Cleveland game, Cleveland scored, got the onside kick, and the defense held. So once again, Jackson had nothing to do with the team winning and should have lost it by being a bonehead.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
If the raiders keep Da they will probably go 0-16 next year the way McKenzie picks players and if they keep DA good luck. Lmao smh
November 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
wait i get it, da’s not gettin guys pumped because he’s tankin the season, draft position people
November 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
155.RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Show me something to look foward to now is all we ask.
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Well if McClain is on his way out the door, then we definitely have something to look forward to. That is a good start.
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I’ll take that i guess. Not much choice at this point. Go Raiders!
November 28th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Trent Richardson was just talking up McClain, saying he will be great when he gets some better players around him.
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When you are the 8th player taken, it’s YOU that is supposed to make others better.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Rolandos been released.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
the notion that palmer is ‘playing well” is inconsequential at this point.
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Of course it is not inconsequential. We had this discussion already. There are players that are going to be on your roster next year. The analogy I gave you was do you bench your best player the last couple of games as a pee wee coach because some loud mouth idiotic parent wants his lame ass kid to play Q? The answer is what kind of message does that send to all the other players? I can tell you: it sends a very bad message.
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i understand that you think it is not a good practice, yet that has no bearing on the fact that it is an accepted practice in football and has been for decades.
In fact it sometimes happens even to players playing well or winning and sometimes before the last quarter of the season.
Do i need to cite the examples again?
your disagreement is noted, but it will not stop the inevitable
November 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Mcclain is a good LB he just needs to be in the 3-4 or have some great coching which he hasnt gotten since he’s been here. Many Raider draft picks have failed here from lack of lack of good coaching, we’re just now getting a qb coach for god sakes I mean c’mon man a lot of these guys we drafted never had a shot because they were drafted by an org that wasnt stable.
November 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
this group is hilarious…cut mcclain, he svcks!!!! Uhhh…i think he is going to be good on another team. Talk about covering your behinds…
Its al davis’ mess….now that reggie has changed over half the roster….zone defense is the way to go, no more man….uhhh well we dont really have corners….you people.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
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November 28th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Last year we didn’t have a good O-Line, it’s amazing how soon we forget how poorly the lined pass protected last year. I didn’t hear anyone crying for Satele to come back or anyone who thought Barnes would be needed. Bush and McFadden ran the ball well at times but the line got ate up a lot in the passing game just like this year and even the run game was less successful as the season went on. It helped that Moore and Ford were more of a threat in the passing game. This year the receivers aren’t getting open against 1 on 1 coverage.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Mcclain is a good linebacker. he just has to play in a system that doesnt require him to defend against the pass, choose the right gap, get his uniform dirty, or have to run. He’s good , just ask his mother.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
172.eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Mcclain is a good LB he just needs to be in the 3-4 or have some great coching which he hasnt gotten since he’s been here. Many Raider draft picks have failed here from lack of lack of good coaching, we’re just now getting a qb coach for god sakes I mean c’mon man a lot of these guys we drafted never had a shot because they were drafted by an org that wasnt stable.
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There is some truth to that…..but you can’t coach the lazy out of some people. Slowlando and JaFatazz are both lazy.
Michael Huff and Robert Gallery…..those guys were not lazy, just not talented.
DHB….not lazy, just not a very good football player….I am pulling for the guy because he seems like a very hard worker, he just doesn’t have much to work with outside of speed.
McFadden….now that guy would benefit from a change of scenery.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Jaysohn Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Last year we didn’t have a good O-Line, it’s amazing how soon we forget how poorly the lined pass protected last year.
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WRONG, try NFL.com Oline stats. #5 last year.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
LOL
So 55 was the problem all along, eh?
I can see how much better our defense has been since he got demoted coming out of the bye week.
This is really going to help, LOL!
November 28th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
This group
Can’t Run
Can’t convert 3rd downs
Cant score in the Red Zone
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And opposite on Defense
Give up the big runs
Give up NEARLY every 3rd down. 3rd in 20 is no lock to get off the field either…
Red Zone D is probably their best quality, and that ain’t sayin MUCH….
November 28th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Cleveland scored got the onside kick and still loss, why? Because hue scored enough to win. So he is responsible for them winning that game. Last time I checked in order to win you have to outscore the other team and he coached them to doing so. The defense just did their job and stopped somebody, that’s what you call a team effort … hue and the offense did their job and the defense did theirs, they both deserve credit for that win. But with DA we’re scoring 20 plus points and we’re still losing. DA was brought in to fix this defense because it was a weakness and hes just made it worse along with every other aspect of the team. Defense is his baby and he can’t even take care of that. Smh
November 28th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Post #169 i agree with that, you dont get picked in the 1st to be a role player…
November 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
The raiders neef a coach like singletary on D ehos gonna get on their @$$ and hold them accountable when they dont play hard. I bet you singltary could get Rolando to play hard.
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November 28th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Trent Richardson is talking McJogger up because he is hoping the coaching staff bites and gives McJogger more PT. Trent Richardson knows he will have a career day if McJogger plays a lot.
Probably used to brutalize and abuse McJogger in practice every day.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The apologists need to just stop w excusing the coaches.
This team was not playoff material but seriously – this is bad of HISTORICAL proportions.
Carson Palmer, while not my favorite, is better than most…
Many folks here have noted the drop off from seemingly every player. How does DMoore fail to achieve with Palmer when he could with JC? Really it’s not rocket science it’s run the route and catch the ball. Was the route practiced? Was the play in on time and communicated? Rarely does this team show any good tempo.
You simply cannot defend the play calling by Knapp. The inability to utilize more players (REECE), other TEs and more sets.
Consistently running draws on 3rd and long. Christ we saw the EXACT same thing the first time Knapp was here.
Do not defend this defense – you cannot blitz the safeties from 15 yards out constantly when the line gets zero pressure. Bengals laughed they knew exactly what to expect. we got a hc with supposed defensive knowlege for crying out loud! There is too much to list here – the stats speak for themselves and in better english than Tommy Kelley.
We should demand better.
November 28th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
If McClain is indeed cut, looks like the likelihood the Raiders go Te’o in the draft just went way up.