Pryor ready to roll when called upon
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor spoke at length Wednesday about what life is like sitting behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart, how he spends his time and how much progress he has made since training camp.
One thing he doesn't do is look at the rapid ascension of 49ers second-year quarterback Colin Kaepernick and wonder what if?
"I don’t judge myself by other people," Pryor said. "What he does is what he does. I’m just confident I could go in and make some plays as much as I can. If God gives me the blessing to do that, I look forward to it. But if not, I’ll roll on. I’ll be OK. I’ll be back for next year."
Coach Dennis Allen said Monday that he and his coaches have "discussed" the prospect of playing Pryor in some capacity this season.
Allen said Wednesday that there's a possibility of Pryor being active Sunday against the Cleveland Browns as the No. 3 quarterback. Pryor hasn't been active for any of Oakland's first 11 games.
Pryor has little chance of playing in a game if he's the No. 3 quarterback. Yet, at some point Allen said he wants to get a look at Pryor.
"There will be a time where we’ve got to look at him and see what he can do," Allen said.
Especially if the Raiders have any intention of moving on from Palmer anytime in the next two seasons. Palmer is signed through 2016, Pryor is under contract through 2014.
It's on thing to see Pryor play in an exhibition game, it's quite another to see him play against, say, the Denver Broncos in a game that counts in the standings and has huge playoff implications for the Broncos.
To that end, Pryor said he has the playbook down pat and feels as if he is ready to turn it loose in a game.
"It’s kind of like picking an opponent on paper," Pryor said. "You can say you’ve got it, but once you get on the field, you don’t know if you’ve got it. I don’t know if I do or not, but if we were to talk and you were to give me a formation for this upcoming week I’d know every single play. I’d know where everyone’s at, I’d know all the responsibilities. That’s on paper, that’s not on the field, with four guys 300-pounds are flying at you. So, I don’t know."
Pryor is confident that he has improved a great deal since training camp, when he talked at length about the need to get better with his footwork and accuracy.
"I’ve been doing a lot of footwork," Pryor said. "It’s amazing, the accuracy that I have now. I’m able to step into my throws and throw exactly where I want the ball at, and I just keep getting better at that. As a quarterback, you never get to that level where you stop working. There’s always room for improvement and that’s all I’m looking for."
Palmer has mentored Pryor since the day he arrived in a trade from the Cincinnati Bengals last October. He said he realizes that Pryor is in a difficult situation. At the same time, he is impressed by the way Pryor handles himself.
"There’s been zero dropoff," Palmer said of Pryor's commitment. "He’s in a tough spot being the third-stringer, where you don’t get a chance to dress out, but (he) studies his butt off, continues to work, gets as many reps as he can in practice, is completely in it."
-- Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson returned to practice today after missing the past three games.
Allen said, "They look like they’re working their way back."
Which is another way of saying, they have a ways to go before they're as sharp as they were before they suffered high-ankle sprains Nov. 4.
Allen said McFadden and Goodson took reps with the first-team offense, even though they were limited in their participation. The weather Sunday won't impact the decision whether they play against the Browns or not, Allen added.
Regardless of how well and how fast they heal, Allen said fullback Marcel Reece will continue to be a vital part of the rushing attack.
"Marcel has earned the right to carry the ball some," Allen said. "We’ll still use him in that capacity, yes."
Palmer said it's a benefit to the Raiders just having Reece on the field, especially when he is in the backfield at the same time as McFadden.
"It gives you something to worry about defensively preparing for us," Palmer said. "You don't know. Marcel's been in the backfield to block when Darren's been in the games and now gives us a little more unknown, you don;t know exactly what's coming at you.
"Marcel can catch a ball out of the backfield, he can run it. Darren can block, Marcel can run it. Gives us just kind of another dimension. That's the right way to say it: earned the right. Because the way he's run and you don't expect a fullback to come in and be the starting tailback and be as good as he's been."
Reece rushed for 225 yards at an average of 4.8 yards the past three games, whereas McFadden averaged only 3.3 yards in the eight games he played before the injury.
-- Rookie wide receiver Rod Streater started the regular-season opener, in part because of injuries to Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford. Now, he is at the point where he played only five snaps last Sunday.
Meanwhile, fellow rookie receiver Juron Criner is headed the opposite way. Criner went from not playing early on to 40 snaps against the Bengals last Sunday.
This is yet another sign of the Raiders doing the pruden thing, taking a look at younger, inexperienced players between now and the end of the season.
"It's more of a situation where we want to get a look at Juron Criner, a guy that we drafted, a young guy that we think highly of," Allen said. "He’s getting more comfortable in the offense. ... There are some young guys we want to make sure we get a look at, and he’s obviously one of those guys, that we drafted, we like him. We've got to let him play."
Criner said there's room for all the receivers to fill a role on the team, given their diverse talents.
“There’s a lot of things that we all bring to the table that one of the others don’t," Criner said. "I just add a bigger frame to the run game on the outside blocking, red-zone, coming across the middle. I’ll try to be whatever you want me to be and do whatever you want me to do.”
-- Allen shot down any suggestion that he took a more active role in caling the defensive plays during the Bengals game. He said the play-calling was handled the same way it has been handled all year with he and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver in concert.
-- The recent struggles of right guard Mike Brisiel haven't gone unnoticed by Allen.
Yet, Allen doesn't sound too concerned about Brisiel getting to the point where he is a reliable asset and not a sometimes liability.
"He has obviously struggled some," Allen said. "But he’s working extremely hard to try to get better and he knows he needs to play better. And he takes a lot of pride in it. It’s important to him. And that’s important to me, to make sure, I want guys that want it to be important to him."
Brisiel said he wasn't pleased with the way he played against the Bengals.
"We did some things, me personally, that hurt ourselves," Brisiel said. "I just got to go back and work on it."
-- Palmer is 9-3 against the Browns all-time, with 25 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and a 90.6 passer rating.
He said the Browns have a slew of new faces on the roster since the last time he played them -- he wasn't here last season when the Raiders beat the Browns -- but their overall approach remains the same.
"A lot has changed personnel wise and look-wise, but they always seem to be a big physical group that can still rush the passer," Palmer said. "There’s a lot of teams that you play that are really big and physical and are there to stop the run and push the pocket, but they have two guys on the edge that can rush the passer. Just a good, physical group up front."
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November 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
WTH is going on over here?
November 28th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
why does it seem like players that under perform are so loved here but players that actually produce solid results are hated?
DHB gets abused here but moore and myers and macfadden are all among the league leaders in drops.
Palmer has been mediocre but he is worshiped like a god.
this place is bizarro world at times
November 28th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
YA,
You think Ansah is a first round prospect?
I think he can be great though, just so raw.
Super smart kid as well.
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I think he’s a fringe 1st rounder right now, but has a chance to shoot up draft boards if he works out well.
I wouldn’t say “raw” so much as “inexperienced”. Technique-wise, I think he’s ahead of guys like Mingo, Montgomery, and Jeffcoat.
Upside is through the roof, and he has the size to put his hand on the ground and is fluid enough to be a SAM LB in a 3-4.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Got to think canning Rolando, talking about playing Pryor, working in Criner, etc, is not at all the sign of coach trying desperately to win a few games to keep his job.
DA is a lock to be back in 2013
November 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Let Pryor play!!!!
November 28th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
test
November 28th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Mis-fault of the coaches? Should they have run a 3-4? Oh wait, they werent allowed too.
So tell me again how its the coaches fault? Dipchit.
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Rob Ryan ran a 3-4, in the early 80’s too. So let’s not act like Al Davis forbid the 3-4 defense. But if it didn’t work out, he went with what he knew.
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Rob Ryan was given 6 weeks. And when the players complained, Al stepped in.
That is the system you are advocating? HAHAHA.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
So productive that he’s been black balled from the league despite his talent.
He was productive allright, at tearing up locker rooms. I got stories from his Eagle days that you wouldnt believe if I wrote them.
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He’s been black balled because he’s a 40 year old WR who can’t hold onto the ball anymore. Sure he was a little b!tch, but can’t deny he put up numbers throught his career. Eagles were never as good again since he left. Same goes for Dallas.
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Eagles lost McNabb and got Vick
Dallas lost Bill Parcells and got Wade Philips
Im sure that had nothing to do with it. It was all because they lost TO. Riiiiiiight.
Please shut up, youre just making yourself look stupider and stupider. Its ok to say you were wrong and backtrack on a stance. I wont hold it against you, I’ll actually respect you more for it.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I hope to see Pryor get a series or two over the coming weeks.
And not the mop up duty at the end of the game. That’s like near-beer, not quite full bullets flying.
2nd quarter of a close game, full field to work with type of drives.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
on Pryor.
“There will be a time where we’ve got to look at him and see what he can do,” Allen said.
still dont think i know what im talking about?
lol buckle your seat belts because when tp6 gets his shot, if he even shows a glimmer of what we saw in the Detroit game we will have a full blown controversy!!
BOOK IT
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Im a huge CP3 fan and supporter.
But at this point, Im not against Pryor getting in their at all. Lets see what the kid can do. He seems to get better and better the more reps and playing time he gets. And he also has a firely demeanor, something this team is in desperate need of.
I love Palmer, but the SoCal laid back attitude just wont work here. We are in desperate need of leadership. Not by example, but by the sword.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Draft all guys West of the Mississippi moving forward.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I hope to see Pryor get a series or two over the coming weeks.
And not the mop up duty at the end of the game. That’s like near-beer, not quite full bullets flying.
2nd quarter of a close game, full field to work with type of drives.
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If we want to see that, then he’s going to need some serious reps in practice too. For us to honestly evaluate him. Cant throw him in cold.
Again, QB isnt even remotely this teams problem, but leadership is one of our major ones. And Pryor has more salt to him than Palmer.
Plus, I want to know if the kid is worth further development.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Hey Cork, this McCLain thing is kind of a big deal, maybe a quick take on it wouldn’t hurt?
-Blog Management
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Got to think canning Rolando, talking about playing Pryor, working in Criner, etc, is not at all the sign of coach trying desperately to win a few games to keep his job.
DA is a lock to be back in 2013
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For sure.
You know He’s talking to Reggie daily.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Got to think canning Rolando, talking about playing Pryor, working in Criner, etc, is not at all the sign of coach trying desperately to win a few games to keep his job.
DA is a lock to be back in 2013
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i will get off the fire allen train as a result of these latest actions.
he is showing he will be proactive even it did come from over his head.
For now anyway, he is doing what is necessary to make the team better and exhausting all options.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Damm dude, you brought the old posts over? Let it go. If you’d like i responded to you in the last article. But damm don’t take this so personal, you’ll give yourself a aneurysm
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
McClain doesn’t even seem to realize that every team in the league has his play on film, they have record of the way he treats the media, the have all seen his sh1teating grin when he was arrested. This is all public knowledge. This kid thinks he is gonna get paid millions to replace Ray Lewis on the Ravens or something. Fact is, he is only 23 so he will still get a shot somewhere, but he is in for a rude awakening when he goes to a new team. He should give Stanford Routt a call and ask him how his venture to new pastures worked out.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Pryor’s contract expires in 2014, so you HAVE TO know what you have at the end of 2013.
Lame-duck QB’s are just a major distraction waiting to happen.
We, and he, have to know going into 2014, if he is a legit starter or a career backup.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I swear, every time Pryor speaks, he says the right thing. He says everything you want him to say.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
McClain doesn’t even seem to realize that every team in the league has his play on film, they have record of the way he treats the media, the have all seen his sh1teating grin when he was arrested. This is all public knowledge. This kid thinks he is gonna get paid millions to replace Ray Lewis on the Ravens or something. Fact is, he is only 23 so he will still get a shot somewhere, but he is in for a rude awakening when he goes to a new team. He should give Stanford Routt a call and ask him how his venture to new pastures worked out.
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Absolutely. 100%. Spot on.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
One more year of sitting on the bench isn’t going to kill hurt Terrell Pryor. I’m in no hurry to see him play. I’d rather just see some improvement out of this offense in the last games.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
on Pryor.
“There will be a time where we’ve got to look at him and see what he can do,” Allen said.
still dont think i know what im talking about?
lol buckle your seat belts because when tp6 gets his shot, if he even shows a glimmer of what we saw in the Detroit game we will have a full blown controversy!!
BOOK IT
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I’d like nothing more than TP to show enough to enable the Raiders to trade Palmer for a pick.
This Team is in Rebuild mode.
November 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I want Pryor to be a beast of Sunday
November 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
man this guy is stupid…briesel gets a pass? you just realized reece can do these things? what a daayum fool….
November 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
On^^^*%%^^^
November 28th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
you just realized reece can do these things?
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Reece is getting more touches in Knapp’s offense than he ever did in Hue’s. Remember how Hue forgot Reece existed for several games? Thought not.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
ok, so the rebuilding process is happening right? so help me understand why reggie
1) gave Seymour a new contract that if cut next year we lose approx 5.5 towards the cap INSTEAD of just letting his contract expire
2) why after franchising Branch , you then give him a long term contract INSTEAD of letting his contract expire
3)sign Briesel to a contract that if cut next year hurts our cap by about 2.7 mil
4) not put a claim on babin who would only have cost 1.6 mil this year, and next years non guaranteed contract of 5mil is either a bargain for a player who had 18 sacks OR you could trade him for DRAFT picks
Reggie either wasnt rebuilding or made major mistakes. None of the above can be blamed on Al, not having cap space, or not having a draft. 2012 the year of the excuse, 2013 there are no excuses
November 28th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
McClain doesn’t even seem to realize that every team in the league has his play on film,
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The “it was not me it was them” line doesn’t work often in the NFL landscape.
I think the Al Davis holdovers, almost all of them, are in for a major rude awakening.
Houston with his dye job, egging on the fans leaving the field, and TK leaving the bench ACTING like he is really going to fight.
Total sissy, b!tchmade moves of an entitled football player.
No such thing on the other 31 rosters.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I want more guys like Pryor DHB and others who work their butt of to prove critics wrong and enjoy their time here and class act , not some losers like J Russell and McLain who tlk sh1t about this situation right after being let go of that team
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
One more year of sitting on the bench isn’t going to kill hurt Terrell Pryor. I’m in no hurry to see him play. I’d rather just see some improvement out of this offense in the last games.
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One more year on the bench is actually what is needed. But what we all want to know, and what DA needs to know, is if that year will be as the #2 or #3 QB next year.
Now is the time to find out. Then come next season, he goes back to being the #2 for one year. And by 2014 we can hopefully hand the reigns over to him full time if he’s ready.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Reece will have more yards in about 13 games under Knapp than he did in two years under Hue.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
The apologists need to just stop w excusing the coaches.
This team was not playoff material but seriously – this is bad of HISTORICAL proportions.
Carson Palmer, while not my favorite, is better than most…
Many folks here have noted the drop off from seemingly every player. How does DMoore fail to achieve with Palmer when he could with JC? Was the route practiced? Was the play in on time and communicated? Rarely does this team show any good tempo.
You simply cannot defend the play calling by Knapp. The inability to utilize more players (REECE), other TEs and more sets. Using the Bergstrom as a TE ? I’m sure that just confuses the opponent (NOT).
Consistently running draws on 3rd and long. Christ we saw the EXACT same thing the first time Knapp was here.
Do not defend this defense – you cannot blitz the safeties from 15 yards out constantly when the line gets zero pressure. Bengals laughed they knew exactly what to expect. we got a hc with supposed defensive knowlege for crying out loud! There is too much to list here – the stats speak for themselves and in better english than Tommy Kelley.
We should demand better.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Because Seymour was owed like 15 million this year ,that’s why we had to extend to pay him less this year and next year
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I want more guys like Pryor DHB and others who work their butt of to prove critics wrong and enjoy their time here and class act , not some losers like J Russell and McLain who tlk sh1t about this situation right after being let go of that team
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Agreed.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
“Brisiel said he wasn’t pleased with the way he played against the Bengals.”
Just the Bengals game?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Quit crying Hues High scoring O went 1-4 down the road
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I would love to see Pryor succeed here, but my truthful opinion of the situation is this, from everything I saw in the preseason (short of the 4 plays against detroits practice squad) this kid is going to get annihilated against a real NFL defense. Look what Irving did to him in the preseason finale. I really think throwing him to the wolves now (especially with the rest of our team playing at a sub DIII college level) will crush any hope of him having a productive career. I like Pryor, his attitude, work ethic, his demeanor, his ability to take ownership of his shortcomings, but ’seeing what we have in him’ at this point when the rest of the team can’t support him will be the nail in his NFL coffin.
I hope he proves me wrong…
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
And by 2014 we can hopefully hand the reigns over to him full time if he’s ready.
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Don’t like that idea of not knowing if he is ready.
Lame duck contract situations don’t work for QB’s. Distractions galore.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Quit crying Hues High scoring O went 1-4 down the road
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Yes, but Knapps low scoring O has gone 3-8
November 28th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
“Brisiel said he wasn’t pleased with the way he played against the Bengals.”
Just the Bengals game?
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LOL
November 28th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
lol…extend everybody then no im not than yes i am than no im not then….man these people are clueless…
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
a few packages to start will not hinder Pryor’s development.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
To be honest, McClain was never really that good at ‘Bama. I was in here railing against that pick at the time. I’m not sure if it’s all effort or if he’s just got slow feet.
As much as I’ve been against him, it is kind of sad. Guy is 23, prob thought he’d be in the league for 15 years and I wouldn’t be shocked if nobody signs him. Someone will prob give him a shot next year if not this year. Hopefully he wakes up and takes advantage of the opportunity.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
“Brisiel said he wasn’t pleased with the way he played against the Bengals.”
Just the Bengals game?
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LOL
That’s whay i’m saying. I’m a little concerned he’s thinking he’s been alright this season and just had a slip up last week.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
If you guys think Mcclain is the only one who thinks the way he does of this team you are seriously naive.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
How can you be so butt hurt and not be appreciated of this team while they gave you chance , Russell might have not even went until mid rounds and would have lost so much money if it wasn’t for Al taking chance on him , McClain would have also lost more money had he even 1 pick later ,instead of being thankful and that this organization gave them a chance to play and be appreciative for all the money this ownership gave you, they freaking bash them
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
myers drops too many
dmac drops too many
moore drops too many
dhb drops too many
cp throws too many pics
yet I still want all of these guys on my team, they are all hard workers that can be part of a winning team
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
“….one of those guys, that we drafted, we like him. We’ve got to let him play.”
Taiwan Jones – not you buddy
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Because Seymour was owed like 15 million this year ,that’s why we had to extend to pay him less this year and next year
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Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
November 28th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
If you guys think Mcclain is the only one who thinks the way he does of this team you are seriously naive.
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I don’t like what this coaching staff has done this year, but any player willing to quit on a team mid season is not someone i want on my Raiders team
November 28th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Pryor needs to see the field at some point.
Leinart is here because he knows the O, and was “insurance” if Palmer were to go down and the Team was winning.
Leinart is less than a stop gap on a losing rebuilding team.
Give some run to TP.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Using the Bergstrom as a TE ? I’m sure that just confuses the opponent (NOT).
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Teams use their back up tackle as a ‘TE’ regularly. This is common practice for all 32 teams. Remember Khalif Barnes has a touchdown catch as a Raider. It is not meant to confuse anyone, it is to provide an extra blocker, they have to report eligible as a TE due to where they line up in the formation.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
This McClain thing is weird. Even for the Raiders…
November 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
I’m not saying Russell and McClain are the only ones, but those are the only guys and it doesn’t hurt as much when guys like sapp talk sh1t because they were drafted by some other team, but to bash the team that have you your first contract and have you a chance is just so classless
November 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
If you guys think Mcclain is the only one who thinks the way he does of this team you are seriously naive
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If you think Dennis Allen is the only who thinks this way about half our team, you are seriously naive.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
on Pryor.
“There will be a time where we’ve got to look at him and see what he can do,” Allen said.
still dont think i know what im talking about?
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As a matter of fact, yes.
Your ignorant ass stated he should be in there. WHY isn’t he in there? WHY is he being held back?
Reporters asked about playing time of different players, you moron. Of course the coach is going to say he would like to see what a player can do. Have you ever heard a coach state the opposite?
The more you post, the less I, and others, wonder if you have a clue. You pretty much clear that up, each time you post.
EXPOSED!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
On to pryor, listen let’s give it a shot, palmer sorry is not the future especially in the wco.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
iPhone problems
November 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
People who say coaching isnt the main problem are delusional, How can Hue have basically the same team at 8-8 and DA has the team failing at historic rate.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Pryor can go 6 for 15 with two picks and Mistic will talk up his exciting play.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Damm dude, you brought the old posts over? Let it go. If you’d like i responded to you in the last article. But damm don’t take this so personal, you’ll give yourself a aneurysm
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Im allergic to BS and ignorance. If you say something extremely dumb, Im going to call you out on it.
So will YA, McFadden20, and a few others of the smarter variety on this blog.
Dont take offense, Im here to educate, not get into a shouting match.
I seriously wish I could sit down with a lot of you and watch the film and break it down for you. With a whiteboard next to the screen, and we could tally up all the ridiculously stupid acts our players do during games that make it impossible for our coaches to succeed. The numbers would be staggering.
Ive been blaming the players since the preseason and I was taking a lot of heat for it then, but now days, Im not the minority. Everyone is starting to see what Im seeing. You can only watch us drop so many TDs before you stop blaming our OC.
Knapp will be here next year, so will DA. A lot of players wont. Ive said that for a while now and its all coming true. Imagine that. Argue with me all you want, but my line of thinking is in line with our GMs, while most Raider fans line of thinking is to blame the coaches and have another 25+ years of sucking. If you want to align yourself with the ownership philosophies of a senile old man like Al had become, go with it. But Im going to call you out on it.
Even Hue wanted to gut this team. So for all you who think you have to bash this coaching staff to support Hue, that just isnt true. Hue knows the same thing the current staff now know, the players arent that good. I repeat, Hue would have gutted this team a long time ago.
Hue wanted to gut
Reggie and DA are gutting
And Al would have already fired somebody in the coaching staff and kept our malcontents here.
Seriously, just step back and look at what side of the fence you are on and then ask whether you are fit to walk the streets without a safety helmet.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Pryor needs to see the field at some point.
Leinart is here because he knows the O, and was “insurance” if Palmer were to go down and the Team was winning.
Leinart is less than a stop gap on a losing rebuilding team.
Give some run to TP.
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That’s the one thing i’ll give these coaches credit for, having a back up plan if the QB goes down. Something Hue didn’t do at all with Kyle Boller. Why have him at all if you’re going to go in full panic mode when he has to play
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
wonder whose responsible for converting marcel reece from WR to Rb,..good call
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Because Seymour was owed like 15 million this year ,that’s why we had to extend to pay him less this year and next year
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Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
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Now Seymour is owed like 6M-7M next year , that’s what I have seen on many websites
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
myers drops too many
dmac drops too many
moore drops too many
dhb drops too many
cp throws too many pics
yet I still want all of these guys on my team, they are all hard workers that can be part of a winning team
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And that in a nutshell is the problem with “Raider Fan”
I am not immune.
We all fall in love with “our guys” and will make too many excuses for them.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
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We simply couldn’t afford to pay him the 15 million this year. It’s just a fact. Reggie had no choice in that one.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
People who say coaching isnt the main problem are delusional, How can Hue have basically the same team at 8-8 and DA has the team failing at historic rate.
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It’s already been broken down for you many times. You just refuse to see it.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Look coaching wasn’t that great last year , we faced easier schedule , If you guys think the coaching was really that good, they win the last game .
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
We all fall in love with “our guys” and will make too many excuses for them.
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Slo-Mania!!!!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Because Seymour was owed like 15 million this year ,that’s why we had to extend to pay him less this year and next year
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Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
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Now Seymour is owed like 6M-7M next year , that’s what I have seen on many websites
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think your missing the 7.5 misc bonus he gets, plus salary plus signing bonus
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
That’s the one thing i’ll give these coaches credit for, having a back up plan if the QB goes down. Something Hue didn’t do at all with Kyle Boller. Why have him at all if you’re going to go in full panic mode when he has to play
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Agree, but it was probably Al’s call.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Bergs is never going to be targeted. No chance. D just go around him. Takes a piece off the offensive board. Another offense yeah that works. But this is knapp and this team and if you’ve watched any of it you fing know bergs is not an option.
And we drafted him for this ?!? A fake / blocking TE ? Jeezus.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Raider Riff @ yeah i didn’t read all that $h!t. Just carry on as if i’m not even here. Didn’t mean to bother you
November 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Well I’m out , DA would be here 1 more year at-least , Palmer will be back again ,you guys can debate all you want
November 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
And that in a nutshell is the problem with “Raider Fan”
I am not immune.
We all fall in love with “our guys” and will make too many excuses for them.
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was that the problem with the 49ers prior to harbaugh, were people making too many excuses for vernon davis or the oline or the players on d?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Quit crying Hues High scoring O went 1-4 down the road
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Yes, but Knapps low scoring O has gone 3-8
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Our players have nothing to do with 3-8 record right? Hilarious.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Damm dude, you brought the old posts over? Let it go. If you’d like i responded to you in the last article. But damm don’t take this so personal, you’ll give yourself a aneurysm
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Im allergic to BS and ignorance. If you say something extremely dumb, Im going to call you out on it.
So will YA, McFadden20, and a few others of the smarter variety on this blog.
Dont take offense, Im here to educate, not get into a shouting match.
I seriously wish I could sit down with a lot of you and watch the film and break it down for you. With a whiteboard next to the screen, and we could tally up all the ridiculously stupid acts our players do during games that make it impossible for our coaches to succeed. The numbers would be staggering.
Ive been blaming the players since the preseason and I was taking a lot of heat for it then, but now days, Im not the minority. Everyone is starting to see what Im seeing. You can only watch us drop so many TDs before you stop blaming our OC.
Knapp will be here next year, so will DA. A lot of players wont. Ive said that for a while now and its all coming true. Imagine that. Argue with me all you want, but my line of thinking is in line with our GMs, while most Raider fans line of thinking is to blame the coaches and have another 25+ years of sucking. If you want to align yourself with the ownership philosophies of a senile old man like Al had become, go with it. But Im going to call you out on it.
Even Hue wanted to gut this team. So for all you who think you have to bash this coaching staff to support Hue, that just isnt true. Hue knows the same thing the current staff now know, the players arent that good. I repeat, Hue would have gutted this team a long time ago.
Hue wanted to gut
Reggie and DA are gutting
And Al would have already fired somebody in the coaching staff and kept our malcontents here.
Seriously, just step back and look at what side of the fence you are on and then ask whether you are fit to walk the streets without a safety helmet.
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Keep attempting to put out the fire and protect the COACHES & GM…..
Maybe if you all walk away your careers will continue elsewhere……but stay here and continue this debacle and you will only hurt yourself in the long run….
This NEPOTISTIC BUNCH is going DOWN!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Because Seymour was owed like 15 million this year ,that’s why we had to extend to pay him less this year and next year
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Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
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Now Seymour is owed like 6M-7M next year , that’s what I have seen on many websites
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think your missing the 7.5 misc bonus he gets, plus salary plus signing bonus
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Who cares about bonus, he’s only costing 7.5 against the cap ,pretty sure he won’t see any bonus and full salary next year, Seymour is done with Raiders
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Reggie wanted and needed some continuity from last year, and you have to give it a good shot didnt work that is why there wasnt a mass exodus however that is forever changed now. If I am Reggie I get finley from gb, and he wants out. And sign restricted free agent matthews, however gb won’t let him go, and yes I wanted matthews badly in the draft a typical throwback raider if i ever saw one.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Later nation.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
If you guys think Mcclain is the only one who thinks the way he does of this team you are seriously naive.
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I don’t like what this coaching staff has done this year, but any player willing to quit on a team mid season is not someone i want on my Raiders team
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You guys didnt want Randy Moss, most said get him the fck out. But how did all you dumb asses look when he went to NE and set the TD record. Players know when the org is full of it and they wont give their full effort, is that right? of course not since they get paid millions but thats todays players and if the org wants ALL players to give top effeort come with some REAL coaches and SCHEMES.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
People who say coaching isnt the main problem are delusional, How can Hue have basically the same team at 8-8 and DA has the team failing at historic rate.
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Basically the same team? Reggie replaced 41% of the roster this offseason. Look it up. St Louis is the only team that had a larger turnover in players.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
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We simply couldn’t afford to pay him the 15 million this year. It’s just a fact. Reggie had no choice in that one.
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I disagree that Reggie had to pay him, we ended up 6 mil under the cap and if your truly rebuilding, cut him and only the signing bonus counts against the cap. If reggie couldnt find a way to pay him, then cut him
November 28th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Raider Riff @ yeah i didn’t read all that $h!t. Just carry on as if i’m not even here. Didn’t mean to bother you
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And that is why youre so stupid. Youre allegic to learning. And there is a lot to be learned in that post. Especially in the last few sentences, I suggest you read them.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Raider riff we need to talk I would like to match wits with you ….i. a positive way
November 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
lol u guys.
TOLLEFSON, BRISEL, GIORDANO, BERGSTROM are so much better choices for this team LMAO
THis org is a mess
November 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
WE have been 3-8 (or worse) at one point in time in 6 of the last 9 years.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I go on the record as stating I was hoping and happy when we drafted McClain. Was tired of watching us spend high draft picks on high risk skill players instead of building from inside out.
I was wrong it appears. That guy has done NOTHING to prove to me he is the real deal. NOTHING.
I HATE being wrong…
November 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Ghosttoothepost Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
on Pryor.
“There will be a time where we’ve got to look at him and see what he can do,” Allen said.
still dont think i know what im talking about?
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As a matter of fact, yes.
Your ignorant ass stated he should be in there. WHY isn’t he in there? WHY is he being held back?
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I am not the coach i dont decide who does and who doesnt play or when they play.
I am only a fan that can offer opinion on a message board like the rest of us, even cross posters like you.
I said he should get the start soon. i said before the season started if we were out of contention after 11-12 games look for pryor to get some run as it is prudent drfat strategy.
Now davis big mack and allen are in agreement about this or cant you read?
allen will play him soon as it should be
thanks
November 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Quit crying Hues High scoring O went 1-4 down the road
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Yes, but Knapps low scoring O has gone 3-8
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Our players have nothing to do with 3-8 record right? Hilarious.
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Your problem is you like to take things out of context. I’ve never put the blame soley on the coaches. Both are at fault. But this team has regressed from last year. And that falls on the Coaches too
November 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
If you guys think Mcclain is the only one who thinks the way he does of this team you are seriously naive.
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I don’t like what this coaching staff has done this year, but any player willing to quit on a team mid season is not someone i want on my Raiders team
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You guys didnt want Randy Moss, most said get him the fck out. But how did all you dumb asses look when he went to NE and set the TD record. Players know when the org is full of it and they wont give their full effort, is that right? of course not since they get paid millions but thats todays players and if the org wants ALL players to give top effeort come with some REAL coaches and SCHEMES.
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Youre right about Moss. But here was here during the Bed and Breakfast era.
It’s a new day here, the players dont have the same excuses they did when Al was running the show.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Because Seymour was owed like 15 million this year ,that’s why we had to extend to pay him less this year and next year
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Seymour makes over 16 mil if we keep him next year..if we cut him our cap space takes a 5.5 mil hit. ..if reggie would have let his 15 mil contract run out this year we would have been in good shape
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Now Seymour is owed like 6M-7M next year , that’s what I have seen on many websites
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think your missing the 7.5 misc bonus he gets, plus salary plus signing bonus
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Who cares about bonus, he’s only costing 7.5 against the cap ,pretty sure he won’t see any bonus and full salary next year, Seymour is done with Raiders
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right so our cap takes a hit of 5.5 million versus if we got rid of him this year or let the contract expire we would have an additional 5.5 mil in cap space next year
November 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Damm dude, you brought the old posts over? Let it go. If you’d like i responded to you in the last article. But damm don’t take this so personal, you’ll give yourself a aneurysm
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Raider Riff is just a punk and has anger issues.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
And that is why youre so stupid. Youre allegic to learning. And there is a lot to be learned in that post. Especially in the last few sentences, I suggest you read them.
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Since you’re such a master of retoric, you know when people usually resort to name calling and personal attacks, it’s because they can’t think of anything else to back up what they say. But you already know this, because you’re allergic to BS
November 28th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Damm dude, you brought the old posts over? Let it go. If you’d like i responded to you in the last article. But damm don’t take this so personal, you’ll give yourself a aneurysm
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Raider Riff is just a punk and has anger issues.
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I figured that out, but to his credit my work day has been unusually quick. So it’s cool
November 28th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
let me say this, just because allen is making personnel changes doesnt guarantee in any way that he will keep or deserves his job.
The team must still find a way to be competitive and disciplined, this is what will make the bulk of allens judgment.
However failing to make the prudent moves of trimming fat and paying prospects would certainly hasten the judgment against his favor.
i am glad this is happening and it doesnt matter to e if it came form allen or he was mandated to do so.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Quit crying Hues High scoring O went 1-4 down the road
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Yes, but Knapps low scoring O has gone 3-8
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Our players have nothing to do with 3-8 record right? Hilarious.
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Your problem is you like to take things out of context. I’ve never put the blame soley on the coaches. Both are at fault. But this team has regressed from last year. And that falls on the Coaches too
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Actually, our coaching has gotten better. We now run a modern D scheme. That is obviously too advanced for some of our “athletes” and its being exposed. So out with the trash.
Our offense has a new O-line that is getting beat physically. Not scheme-wise. Our WRs still drop balls, our star RB is still hurt, and our schedule got massively more difficult. Why do you ignore those facts? Your judgements of the coaching staff are not factual, they are opinion based. And based on what? You have no credentials to be judging. So stick to what we can honestly judge, dropped passes and stupid penalties, of which the team still does on a regular basis.
I may take your comments out of context, but you dont know football x’s and o’s.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The players AND coaches bear responsibility.
Nobody saying these players are great (I’m not anyway) but coaches have to sell the scheme to each individual. Not with cliche BS.
Madden knew how to reach each individual. Hugh Action isn’t HC material but he could reach some players.
Well it’s clear this staff is gonna be here awhile so they are gonna get flak until they produce.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Riff you talk a gang of schit, you think you are the only one who have played ball on this blog, you are so wrong and I bet my last dollar you were a scrub and couldnt hold the jock strap of a practice sqaud palyer, get off your high horse and just give your opinion like everyone else does. you sound like a punk .
November 28th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Again, the idea was shred so e contracts, deal with the bloated cap, and give the roster a shot, didnt work, listen tollefson works on a deep defense like the giants but on a porous defense like ours he is nonexistent and of no impact. Hey this is the start, i am telling you mcclain going is a positive, talk of pryor is a positive, kindergarten is over the 2013 raiders are starting now.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Maybe I should change my login password for my 401K from Rolando#1 now?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I may take your comments out of context, but you dont know football x’s and o’s.
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Again, where exactly were you a talent scout?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Raider riff we need to talk I would like to match wits with you ….i. a positive way
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Sure thing. Fire away.
Just keep it intelligent and I’ll keep it above the belt.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I hope they get a better OC next year. Knapp was head scratcher choice from the start.
I knew Marcel was going to be a more productive option at tailback from my sofa. Been rewarded with some nice FFL points last two weeks too.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I disagree that Reggie had to pay him, we ended up 6 mil under the cap and if your truly rebuilding, cut him and only the signing bonus counts against the cap. If reggie couldnt find a way to pay him, then cut him
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Seymour was fully guaranteed that 15 million this year as part of the last restructure he did with Al. Cutting him was not an option.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Here is something to know about McClain. He was a cancer and at one time physically threatened a coach in a defensive meeting. Dude was a jerk. Dude is a jerk. Good riddance to bad garbage.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The players AND coaches bear responsibility.
Nobody saying these players are great (I’m not anyway) but coaches have to sell the scheme to each individual. Not with cliche BS.
Madden knew how to reach each individual. Hugh Action isn’t HC material but he could reach some players.
Well it’s clear this staff is gonna be here awhile so they are gonna get flak until they produce.
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So we’ve dropped all these passes because our coaches didnt sell the scheme right?
That is your argument youre sticking with? child please.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Raider Guy Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Here is something to know about McClain. He was a cancer and at one time physically threatened a coach in a defensive meeting. Dude was a jerk. Dude is a jerk. Good riddance to bad garbage.
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This season He threatened a coach?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I’m so tired of hearing about Hue going 1-4 down the stretch. Why isolate it to that period in time. By that logic, why not hype DA being 2-0 from Oct. 21 – 28. What’s the point of distorting the picture like that.
And it wasn’t Hue’s offense that cost us most of those games. The defense fell apart and we all know Hue didn’t hire those coaches or mastermind that side of the ball.
Also, there’s a real chance DA goes 0-9 down the stretch. What then? DA comes from the defensive side of the ball and we’ve given up 31+ points in 7 of 11 games this year. I think we’re something like the 2nd worst defense since the merger right now. A big part of that is on Reggie for not having an edge rusher on the roster. But the talent is not THAT bad.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Because of the restructure that Reggie did on Sey’s contract, he cost us 2 million against the cap this year, and IF he is let go after the season it will be a 5.5 mill hit next year. Instead of counting 15 million this year he is going to count as 7.5 mil over 2 years. That is a sound business decision by a GM.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I would love to see Pryor succeed here, but my truthful opinion of the situation is this, from everything I saw in the preseason (short of the 4 plays against detroits practice squad) this kid is going to get annihilated against a real NFL defense. Look what Irving did to him in the preseason finale. I really think throwing him to the wolves now (especially with the rest of our team playing at a sub DIII college level) will crush any hope of him having a productive career. I like Pryor, his attitude, work ethic, his demeanor, his ability to take ownership of his shortcomings, but ’seeing what we have in him’ at this point when the rest of the team can’t support him will be the nail in his NFL coffin.
I hope he proves me wrong…
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Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
Say what you will about his faults, they are all valid. But nobody can question his work ethic and the progress he showed when given the time.
His ceiling is really high and we just dont know where it is. Is he as good as CP3 right now? Of course not. But we wont know what we have until we try and utilize it.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
coaches dont win games, players do
however poor coaching certainly does lead to losing.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
We will all see how smart DA is by watching how he handles himself in the offseason, if he keeps the same staff going into next season that will say a lot about him.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvment? In preseason?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
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I dont think he has decision making issues. I know he has WR issues, the dropped passes and wrong routes prove that. i know he has O-Line issues, the game tape proves that.
We’d win a lot more games already if our WR played up to Palmers level.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
cz24 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Because of the restructure that Reggie did on Sey’s contract, he cost us 2 million against the cap this year, and IF he is let go after the season it will be a 5.5 mill hit next year. Instead of counting 15 million this year he is going to count as 7.5 mil over 2 years. That is a sound business decision by a GM.
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respectfully disagree—Reggie was GM..would have saved 7.5 million by cutting him AND no negative cap implications for 2013
By being on the roster on the fifth day of the 2012 waiver wire period, Oakland Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour’s base salary for 2012 is now fully guaranteed, a league source has confirmed on Saturday.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
We will all see how smart DA is by watching how he handles himself in the offseason, if he keeps the same staff going into next season that will say a lot about him.
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Agreed, alot of people will have to admit alot of mistake for things to change. Hopefully it happens because i don’t want to waste another year like this
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvment? In preseason?
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Yes, and by the coaches accounts.
Sure, its a VERY limited sample. Almost too small to judge, but its enough for me to be curious, and at 3-8, what do we have to lose?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
coaches dont win games, players do
however poor coaching certainly does lead to losing.
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i thought u said it was all on palmer. make up ur mind dummy.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
So BRIESEL should be the next one to be cut right? Or is it only the scapegoats like ROLANDO and KELLY NEXT. Cuz they smell a bolsheet coach like DA
Briesl just a check casher but probaly “respects” da so he will be here for a while like knapp.
No accountability with these guys
November 28th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
You are what your record says you are.
You giving these coaches a pass on beating jax and KC? Half time adjustments?
What have the coaches done well father?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
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I dont think he has decision making issues. I know he has WR issues, the dropped passes and wrong routes prove that. i know he has O-Line issues, the game tape proves that.
We’d win a lot more games already if our WR played up to
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What about the back breaking picks in the Tampa Bay game? Those were bad decisions. Same could be said for the pick six in Atlanta, but you can only call so many out routes before an NFL defense figures it out so i don’t put that all on palmer
November 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I think this Rolando cut is a way to take alot of heat off DA/ REGGIE before
Fridays presser. Its gonna be nothing but praise for Reggie now.
Gov use these techniques all the time.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I’m so tired of hearing about Hue going 1-4 down the stretch. Why isolate it to that period in time. By that logic, why not hype DA being 2-0 from Oct. 21 – 28. What’s the point of distorting the picture like that.
And it wasn’t Hue’s offense that cost us most of those games. The defense fell apart and we all know Hue didn’t hire those coaches or mastermind that side of the ball.
Also, there’s a real chance DA goes 0-9 down the stretch. What then? DA comes from the defensive side of the ball and we’ve given up 31+ points in 7 of 11 games this year. I think we’re something like the 2nd worst defense since the merger right now. A big part of that is on Reggie for not having an edge rusher on the roster. But the talent is not THAT bad.
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Because Chris most on this blog just dont know football or they didnt want a black guy as a coach period, Chucky went 8-8 twice with plenty of penalties and nobody wanted him gone at the time but Hue goes 8-8 and he’s a bum, doesnt add up.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
A big part of that is on Reggie for not having an edge rusher on the roster. But the talent is not THAT bad.
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It’s not? So you want to sell me the fact that these coaches are SO inept that they are actually causing NFL talent to play so poorly? Come on man. Watch the games, then rewatch them. I have. It is plain as day that these guys are not executing the plays, thats why they are getting beat, NOT because the wrong plays are being called.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
And Palmer let me say one thing, yes he leads but his career was done after the olehoffen it in the playoffs, not a wco fit and always an interception machine. And let’s go a step further the season was on the line against tampa even though we got shredded by martin we had the ball with so much time no pressure and palmer coughed up a lousy interception, no reason for it and that was the season, a d let me tell you reggie knows that we were done right there, and what should we do? He will never be part of a winning organization again.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvement? In preseason?
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Kapernick has improved in spite of not getting a lot of reps in practice.
Pryor said it Himself, regarding footwork and accuracy.
You can improve your game on the side IF you pound away at the fundamentals.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
it’s good to be right. does anyone remember me telling everyone in here how bad mcclain was last year and in preseason? and people wanted to tell me he was “a beast”.
FINALLY! he is gone! did DA and reggie just start looking at the film? ok, they made the move a few weeks ago to remove him in nickel situations, but this really was a no-brainer.
and of course the punk immediately attacks the team. guess what dumbbell. the team didn’t cause u to suck. u caused the team to suck.
a guy like gaither, basically a journeyman at this point, will be instant upgrade.
maybe they are starting to cut bait.
next:
brisiel
dmc
seymour
and a lot more to come!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
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I dont think he has decision making issues. I know he has WR issues, the dropped passes and wrong routes prove that. i know he has O-Line issues, the game tape proves that.
We’d win a lot more games already if our WR played up to
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What about the back breaking picks in the Tampa Bay game? Those were bad decisions. Same could be said for the pick six in Atlanta, but you can only call so many out routes before an NFL defense figures it out so i don’t put that all on palmer
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Those pick’s were both the faults of the WR’s. The press releases confirmed what the tape showed.
Palmer doesnt throw his WRs under the bus, but the hints were dropped.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvment? In preseason?
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Yes, and by the coaches accounts.
Sure, its a VERY limited sample. Almost too small to judge, but its enough for me to be curious, and at 3-8, what do we have to lose?
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What there is to lose is his confidence in him self, and the coaches confidence in him if he goes out there and fails far more than expected. I just think he needs to sit this year.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
coaches dont win games, players do
however poor coaching certainly does lead to losing.
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i thought u said it was all on palmer. make up ur mind dummy.
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no cross poster i never said “its all on palmer”
that is yuor mind along with your inflated sense of importance
stop jocking me
oh did you read the article…tp6 is on deck
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Chris you are delusional if you think hue was a good coach wat games were you watching? You got to take that hue poster off your wall already, stop it and speak some sense.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvement? In preseason?
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Kapernick has improved in spite of not getting a lot of reps in practice.
Pryor said it Himself, regarding footwork and accuracy.
You can improve your game on the side IF you pound away at the fundamentals.
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Regardless of that, we need to be patient with Pryor, just like every young QB.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Our WRs are below average, but reggie said we didnt need a vet WR…
November 28th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
believe me.. guys like DMAC are ready to start fresh with another team.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
So BRIESEL should be the next one to be cut right? Or is it only the scapegoats like ROLANDO and KELLY NEXT. Cuz they smell a bolsheet coach like DA
Briesl just a check casher but probaly “respects” da so he will be here for a while like knapp.
No accountability with these guys
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You can call them scapegoats, but I’s just say that they are pruning the scrub(s) as is prudent.
Breisel will be gone eventually.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvement? In preseason?
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Kapernick has improved in spite of not getting a lot of reps in practice.
Pryor said it Himself, regarding footwork and accuracy.
You can improve your game on the side IF you pound away at the fundamentals.
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dennis allen said he improved
whats the argument?
the head coach said so, is he lying?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Those pick’s were both the faults of the WR’s. The press releases confirmed what the tape showed.
Palmer doesnt throw his WRs under the bus, but the hints were dropped.
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One of the two in Tampa i’ll put the blame on the WR. But the pick six to Asante was just a bad decision. Bad play calling to. Ran that out route way too often
November 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvment? In preseason?
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Yes, and by the coaches accounts.
Sure, its a VERY limited sample. Almost too small to judge, but its enough for me to be curious, and at 3-8, what do we have to lose?
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What there is to lose is his confidence in him self, and the coaches confidence in him if he goes out there and fails far more than expected. I just think he needs to sit this year.
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Those are very fair worries to have.
Those were my concerns this past offseason, ask Raider O or RRS, he and I argued mightily over the Pryor issue.
Your concerns about putting Pryor behind this line are very warranted.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
So BRIESEL should be the next one to be cut right? Or is it only the scapegoats like ROLANDO and KELLY NEXT. Cuz they smell a bolsheet coach like DA
Briesl just a check casher but probaly “respects” da so he will be here for a while like knapp.
No accountability with these guys
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bullsh!t. mcclain shoulda been cut a long time ago. DA addressed brisiel’s struggles. but he said he’s working hard. mcclain’s post-raiders attitude is perfect for who he is. blaming the team instead of taking the high road or admitting how poorly u played. brisiel will be given more time cuz he’s newer here. but he could easily be replaced by bergstrom soon.
the mcclain cut was a good start.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
And let’s go a step further the season was on the line against tampa even though we got shredded by martin we had the ball with so much time no pressure and palmer coughed up a lousy interception, no reason for it
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No reason for it? Moore ran the wrong route.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Those pick’s were both the faults of the WR’s. The press releases confirmed what the tape showed.
Palmer doesnt throw his WRs under the bus, but the hints were dropped.
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One of the two in Tampa i’ll put the blame on the WR. But the pick six to Asante was just a bad decision. Bad play calling to. Ran that out route way too often
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So one bad pick/play call absolves the WRs of all the countless wrong routes and dropped passes theyve made?
Even after the Asante pick, Palmer had us back in the game. Who let us down after that? Not Palmer.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Your concerns about putting Pryor behind this line are very warranted.
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Which is why i think our biggest draft priorty this year is Right Tackle, not Defense
November 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Regardless of that, we need to be patient with Pryor, just like every young QB.
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I’m loaded with patience and optimism to a fault.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Once again a few packages for Pryor will NOT hurt his future development..cmon
November 28th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Rolando McClain gets arrested while he is supposed to be attending a funeral, plays like a UDFA while getting paid like the #8 overall pick… yup sounds exactly like a ’scapegoat’
November 28th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
bolsheet nothing.
Brisel just signed a 4 yr 20 million dollar contract.. yet reggie cant get a RZone Wide Reciever to start the year
November 28th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Hue took an O that wasnt very good in most ppl’s opinion and turned it into the 6th ranked O. DA had a D that wasnt very good last year and made it worse. CASE CLOSED.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Our WRs are below average, but reggie said we didnt need a vet WR…
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I put that entirely on Reggie.
But to be honest, if youre watching our players on the practice field, do you really expect them to pull the crap theyve pulled in the games?
Well, maybe so, since its the same stuff thats gone on for years here.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
So one bad pick/play call absolves the WRs of all the countless wrong routes and dropped passes theyve made?
Even after the Asante pick, Palmer had us back in the game. Who let us down after that? Not Palmer.
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No, again out of context. My initial question was about Knapp putting Carson in the West Coast O. Which i think is a horrible fit. He’s a gunslinger who need WR’s to go up and get his downfield passes. Not dink and dunk his way 5 yards at a time, then he’ll eventually throw a pick like he has been.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
lol at drafting OL top 5 pick. NAH.. DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Maybe somebody will get what i am saying. Hue was brought in to replace cable, al never liked cable but nobody would take the job after lame. It was obvious after cables off field escapades he was done. Hue was excellent as a playcaller and betting mcfadden to be dynamic, but when he took over as coach it was not the same, and please not to back in time but him getting on his knee in houston come on. And i hated the palmer trade because it sacrificed our draft and created this delusion we were legit. Come on guys you can’t see this?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Regardless of that, we need to be patient with Pryor, just like every young QB.
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I’m loaded with patience and optimism to a fault.
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Its not you Im worried about, its “Raider Fan”
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Does anyone know what McClain did?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
coaches dont win games, players do
however poor coaching certainly does lead to losing.
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i thought u said it was all on palmer. make up ur mind dummy.
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no cross poster i never said “its all on palmer”
that is yuor mind along with your inflated sense of importance
stop jocking me
oh did you read the article…tp6 is on deck
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yes u did liar. all u ever refer to is palmer’s win-loss record. but now u say it’s the players and sometimes the coaches.
i’m a cross poster? hilarious. nice try.
i’m very important.
i love the idea of pryor working out. always have. loved the pick at the time. will be rooting for him. love his work ethic. never knocked him once.
i have just continually told u it won’t go down like u say it will. and even if it does, i still won’t care.
let’s get it straight. i don’t like YOU. ur a racist and an anti-raider. ur pro-black-qb schtick is absurd and moronic. ur anti-palmer tirades are laughable.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
This blog post looks like it went through a time warp! I wouldn’t be surprised to find the next article proclaiming Dennis Allen to be a filthy Commie.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvment? In preseason?
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Yes, and by the coaches accounts.
Sure, its a VERY limited sample. Almost too small to judge, but its enough for me to be curious, and at 3-8, what do we have to lose?
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What there is to lose is his confidence in him self, and the coaches confidence in him if he goes out there and fails far more than expected. I just think he needs to sit this year.
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Those are very fair worries to have.
Those were my concerns this past offseason, ask Raider O or RRS, he and I argued mightily over the Pryor issue.
Your concerns about putting Pryor behind this line are very warranted.
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consider this
the org is fully aware of the weakness of the team, pryor will not be judged according to that.
The coaches film will reveal where the fualt lies after games, if a linemen blows a block or a wr runs th wrong route coaches will know from the film and meetings
The raiders can not afford to wait until they have a better o line to play the prospects, they will rely on film and play charts to separate where the mistakes are made.
besides ther si the chance the pryor could rise above the failings of team mates and play well, just like plamer did when the raider beat pitt, jax, and kc.
Playing pryor is the right move regardless of the o line or wr
November 28th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I guess I will leave nobody wants to engage in some in your face reality here.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
lol at drafting OL top 5 pick. NAH.. DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
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Veldheer, Wiz, and a top pick need to grow together. When they develop as a unit and get older, then you can add Defensive playmakers. But without an O-Line, we’re not going to do anything.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Does anyone know what McClain did?
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he sucked repeatedly since he’s been here. that will do it.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
coaches dont win games, players do
however poor coaching certainly does lead to losing.
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i thought u said it was all on palmer. make up ur mind dummy.
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no cross poster i never said “its all on palmer”
that is yuor mind along with your inflated sense of importance
stop jocking me
oh did you read the article…tp6 is on deck
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yes u did liar.
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never have i said that. you only wanted to paint the picture that way.
I have always said palmer is part of the problem, and i think a major part.
This is the worst defense i have ever seen , knapp stinks. palmer is just a symptom. he is amjor part however as the qb is the most important player on the team.
cross posters be damned
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Does anyone know what McClain did?
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he sucked repeatedly since he’s been here. that will do it.
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THIS ^ you just WON the internet with that one.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Al the Al Boys are trying to defend McClain. It’s laughable.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
bolsheet nothing.
Brisel just signed a 4 yr 20 million dollar contract.. yet reggie cant get a RZone Wide Reciever to start the year
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Reggie had an option to cut Seymour in 2012. he would have saved 7.5 million out of Seymour’s 15 million contract. Instead he decides to lock Seymour in to a guaranteed salary of 15 mil. He then renegotiates a new contract which when Seymour is cut , he hits our cap space next year by 5.5 mil even when he’s playing for someone else..do the math- 7.5 mil this year, 5.5 mil next year..13 million wasted . Was Seymour worth it in a REBUILDING year..guess Reggie missed on this one
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
lol at drafting OL top 5 pick. NAH.. DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
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We need to protect palmer like we protected Gannon. I’m not saying use a top 5 pick we should trade down get a low first rounder along with a second rounder and get Barret Jones from Ala.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
So one bad pick/play call absolves the WRs of all the countless wrong routes and dropped passes theyve made?
Even after the Asante pick, Palmer had us back in the game. Who let us down after that? Not Palmer.
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No, again out of context. My initial question was about Knapp putting Carson in the West Coast O. Which i think is a horrible fit. He’s a gunslinger who need WR’s to go up and get his downfield passes. Not dink and dunk his way 5 yards at a time, then he’ll eventually throw a pick like he has been.
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Not out of context at all. You end your otherwise coherent and logical post with saying that PALMER EVENTUALLY THROWS A PICK.
Why does he throw a pick? Because its usually his 40th attempt in a game that shouldnt even be close in the first place. Palmer has been put in impossible positions and when he tries to dig us out, his WRs let him down in the 4th just like they do in the 1st.
You guys need to watch some of the other teams play. See what it looks like to win. See what it looks like to execute. The Niner vs Saints game is a good example. Ted Ginn muffs a punt and rather than blame the coaches he gets benched. Meanwhile we give our players 3rd and 4th chances to screw up.
If you went back and examined every turnover Palmer has had, 4 came in that debacle of a KC game, and over half the rest I put on our O-Line and WRs.
Less than half were the result of poor play calling or QB decisions. If we could watch film together, I could easily prove that to you but sadly that wont happen.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ok mistic—i’m gonna extend u an olive branch. i’m not joking. i have gone after u a lot. but i’m bored with it. u are who u are. maybe ur just defensive. we’ll start from scratch. deal?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
McClain is just a punk
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
lol @ “i dont like you”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i coudnt give to squirts of pizz about who you do or dont like.
You are a nobody on a message board, just like any one else
feel free to skip my post
what an attention starved loser
November 28th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I guess I will leave nobody wants to engage in some in your face reality here.
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I said I was up for some intelligent debate already.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
lol at drafting OL top 5 pick. NAH.. DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
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We need to protect palmer like we protected Gannon. I’m not saying use a top 5 pick we should trade down get a low first rounder along with a second rounder and get Barret Jones from Ala.
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Yeah it doesn’t have to be a top pick, but the line needs to be addressed. Gannon, Gruden, Wheatley, Garner and the WR’s got all the glory but Linclon Kennedy and Co were a big reason they were successful
November 28th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Ya we need to protect palmer.. but it would also help if we had a qb that could scramble for a first down every once in a awhile.
We also need a guy to rush the dayum passher like Von miller/ aldon smith
We also need a TRUE MLB / LEADER OF THIS DEFENSE.. to pick the right GAP.. To wrap up and tackle.. and to actually talk to the media
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Playing pryor is the right move regardless of the o line or wr
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Ummmm, no. Just like it wasnt right to put Jamarcus in and judge him based on our equally disappointing WR core, chitty O-Line, and much worse front office.
Young QBs need to be handled delicately.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ok mistic—i’m gonna extend u an olive branch. i’m not joking. i have gone after u a lot. but i’m bored with it. u are who u are. maybe ur just defensive. we’ll start from scratch. deal?
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ill pass
I dont need friendship on a message board i interact with real people…you should try it
besides arent you already over run with friends here…you know your other blog handles
lol
gtfoh
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
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Agreed, he’s not a West Coast mobile, rollout, dink and dunk guy. Nothing against him.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
lol at drafting OL top 5 pick. NAH.. DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
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We need to protect palmer like we protected Gannon. I’m not saying use a top 5 pick we should trade down get a low first rounder along with a second rounder and get Barret Jones from Ala.
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Yeah it doesn’t have to be a top pick, but the line needs to be addressed. Gannon, Gruden, Wheatley, Garner and the WR’s got all the glory but Linclon Kennedy and Co were a big reason they were successful
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True.
But Gannon also had WRs that new the audibles and how to break off their routes when the rush was coming. Gannon never had to worry about his WRs being in the right place at the right time.
And if a WR didnt know what he was doing, Gannon would have ran him off the field.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Playing pryor is the right move regardless of the o line or wr
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Ummmm, no. Just like it wasnt right to put Jamarcus in and judge him based on our equally disappointing WR core, chitty O-Line, and much worse front office.
Young QBs need to be handled delicately.
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Is Pryor starting? because if everyone is concerned about damaging him when they will only put in a few packages for him is alittle extreme imo
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RoBusto is subhuman garbage. Imagine if he had a fraction of Wheeler’s mentality & heart. He would have been unstoppable. Instead, he’s the defensive JaWalrus.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Playing pryor is the right move regardless of the o line or wr
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Ummmm, no. Just like it wasnt right to put Jamarcus in and judge him based on our equally disappointing WR core, chitty O-Line, and much worse front office.
Young QBs need to be handled delicately.
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i would agree with that, but jamarcuss made too many off the field mistakes.
partying the night before games, alleged drug use, failing to study and so on.
pryor doent fit that mold.
besides almost all young qbs play with flawed teams.
oakland doesnt have the luxury of waiting until the o line is good to play pryor
he will be judged independently of the teams failings
November 28th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
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Agreed, he’s not a West Coast mobile, rollout, dink and dunk guy. Nothing against him.
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It’s against Knapp for putting him there. Thanks for answering the question withou desperatly trying to turn it into an argument even though you might agree with it.
Have a nice day guys. Go Raiders!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So Riff, you think Carson Palmer is a good fit for the West Coast offense? An Immobile QB who has decision making issues should be making quick thinking throws to 8 men in the box?
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Agreed, he’s not a West Coast mobile, rollout, dink and dunk guy. Nothing against him.
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No, he’s not a perfect fit for the WCO. But fit hasnt been the problem.
The only reason why people are fixated on “fit” and other ridiculous notions is because the rest of their argument holds so little water.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
lol at drafting OL top 5 pick. NAH.. DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
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We need to protect palmer like we protected Gannon. I’m not saying use a top 5 pick we should trade down get a low first rounder along with a second rounder and get Barret Jones from Ala.
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Yeah it doesn’t have to be a top pick, but the line needs to be addressed. Gannon, Gruden, Wheatley, Garner and the WR’s got all the glory but Linclon Kennedy and Co were a big reason they were successful
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Exactly, you understand judge, build from the inside out. Why were we the top rushing team for those Gruden years? becuz we addressed the Oline, got Mo Collins in the first round and upgraded other Oline positions. This shcit is not rocket science,but some in here like to make things complicated.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Got to think canning Rolando, talking about playing Pryor, working in Criner, etc, is not at all the sign of coach trying desperately to win a few games to keep his job.
DA is a lock to be back in 2013
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Agreed. And I’m looking forward to Pryor getting his shot, despite my low expectations for him.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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DMC ran a ZBS in Arkansas.
The moment you start blaming the scheme for DMC’s woes, its the moment you show how stupid you are.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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these are the reasons allen will be expected to can knapp
knapp can only be saved if the prospects play well in his system, then the team can shift gears and trade the non fits
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
It has been a problem.. because we already lack the creativity in this offense. NOW KNAPP doesnt call half of the TRUE WEST COAST OFFENSE.
Pryor fits this offense better with the rollouts.. and keeping the D honest. They just cant pin their ears back
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
he will be judged independently of the teams failings
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I agree with this.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ok mistic—i’m gonna extend u an olive branch. i’m not joking. i have gone after u a lot. but i’m bored with it. u are who u are. maybe ur just defensive. we’ll start from scratch. deal?
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ill pass
I dont need friendship on a message board i interact with real people…you should try it
besides arent you already over run with friends here…you know your other blog handles
lol
gtfoh
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i didn’t say friendship. i was trying to stop the negativity.
name another handle of mine. and why it’s supposedly me.
ur just a liar dude.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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DMC ran a ZBS in Arkansas.
The moment you start blaming the scheme for DMC’s woes, its the moment you show how stupid you are.
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bingo!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
quick question:
Am I still an idiot for comparing #55 to Ricky Brown & Travis Goethel ??
talent wise, all 3 are basically the same player imo
Kirk Morrison is way better than those clowns!!
November 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Thanks for answering the question withou desperatly trying to turn it into an argument even though you might agree with it.
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LMFAO
November 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
I agree with the inside out concept of building a Team.
Beat them up at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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DMC ran a ZBS in Arkansas.
The moment you start blaming the scheme for DMC’s woes, its the moment you show how stupid you are.
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true but….
It was out of a shotgun spread dmac was next to the qb, or he took the snap. Dmac was the inside zone guy, felix jones was mainly the outside zone runner.
Dmac doesnt go side ways well, he is much better taking the ball and going between the tackles then bouncing outside if the hole closes.
Forcing dmac to the outside zone is forcing him to weakest part of his game
November 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
he will be judged independently of the teams failings
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That appears to be true. This coaching staff and the GM seem to know who to blame and arent afraid to call a spade a spade. I say that based on their support of Palmer despite all the turnovers that to the fan/statician, appear to be Palmers fault.
It’s too bad they dont have a stat line for wrong route. Or dropped pass that results in INT. Or holding call that results in 3rd and long and desperate passing situation.
They only have dropped passes. Of which we have 3 of the top 15 in the league of. Unexceptable. But oh, its because the coaching staff hasnt “sold the scheme” properly right?
November 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Young QBs need to be handled delicately.
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He’s been here over a year man. He has been handled delicately.
Turn him loose. Yes, the WRs suck. But he makes up for that with the mobility that Palmer lacks.
Let Pryor play out the 2012 tape. Get some decent WRs in the draft and/or free agency and let Pryor make his case in training camp.
November 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Does anyone know what McClain did?
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he sucked repeatedly since he’s been here. that will do it.
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THIS ^ you just WON the internet with that one.
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Hahaha, good one, btw I want to win the internet as well..
Nah if it isnt some type of conduct issue, I think GM McKinzie just said to McClain: “take a paycut or get cut!” McClain probably answered “no way”.. result, no more McClain =)
November 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
lol bingo.. I trust respected ppl from the league alot more then u.
Lo Neal basically broke down the game film and it was clear as DAY. BOB WYLIE stated it as well.
DMAC is a NORTH/ SOUTH runner which is a term used for power blocking. He doesnt go east/west.
He doesnt allow for the hole to open up .. he is a zero to 100 miles out the gate which is why he is always running into the back of OLINE men. Reece is patient for the hole.. GOODSON has the hips for cutblack.
Why am i even explaining it to some guy to stupid to understand. BINGO
November 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ok mistic—i’m gonna extend u an olive branch. i’m not joking. i have gone after u a lot. but i’m bored with it. u are who u are. maybe ur just defensive. we’ll start from scratch. deal?
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ill pass
I dont need friendship on a message board i interact with real people…you should try it
besides arent you already over run with friends here…you know your other blog handles
lol
gtfoh
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i didn’t say friendship. i was trying to stop the negativity.
name another handle of mine. and why it’s supposedly me.
ur just a liar dude.
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get off my nuts troll
I dont have any silver pieces for you
November 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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DMC ran a ZBS in Arkansas.
The moment you start blaming the scheme for DMC’s woes, its the moment you show how stupid you are.
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true but….
It was out of a shotgun spread dmac was next to the qb, or he took the snap. Dmac was the inside zone guy, felix jones was mainly the outside zone runner.
Dmac doesnt go side ways well, he is much better taking the ball and going between the tackles then bouncing outside if the hole closes.
Forcing dmac to the outside zone is forcing him to weakest part of his game
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Which is why we run so many draws out of the shotgun.
And every time, “Raider Fan” on this blog goes nuts on Knapp for it. Funny how that works huh?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Young QBs need to be handled delicately.
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He’s been here over a year man. He has been handled delicately.
Turn him loose. Yes, the WRs suck. But he makes up for that with the mobility that Palmer lacks.
Let Pryor play out the 2012 tape. Get some decent WRs in the draft and/or free agency and let Pryor make his case in training camp.
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Im not against all that. I just want us to be aware that while he’s had a year under his belt with us, he got a poor football education at OSU. He’s been stunted developmentally.
And the common fan will not recognize that and be all over him way too soon.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
The first witness for the prosecution would be the fans who are losing their minds on chat rooms, Twitter and Oakland bars over the ugly 0-2 start.
But who are we kidding, they are a little out of order.
So, we’ll call former Raiders offensive line coach Bob Wylie to the stand. Wylie, who was let go after one successful season when the new regime came in, thinks that McFadden is a bad fit for the zone blocking scheme.
“I thought that Darren was a back that ran downhill and off tackle,” Wylie told SiriusXM NFL Radio. “He is so fast, he out runs the zone block. … Sometimes your better off just pitching him that ball and letting him run around the corner and around the D. He can do that.”
Under coach Hue Jackson last year, the Raiders ran a gap and power-blocking scheme and finished 7th in the NFL in rushing. They’re 31st now.
“You have to fit what (McFadden) does, not what you want to do as a coach,” Wylie said.
from BOB WYLIE SIRIUS RADIO interview. In case u dont know who wylie is google.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
it isnt the zone blocking scheme that makes problems for dmac its asking dmac to run sideways to the outside zone that causes struggles for him.
If we kept the zbs but sent dmac in between the tackles he would do better. we saw this in the atl game i think it was.
Dmac excels going down hill, inside zone is where the power in zone scheme is supposed to be.
Knapp refused to let him do it
November 28th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
lol bingo.. I trust respected ppl from the league alot more then u.
Lo Neal basically broke down the game film and it was clear as DAY. BOB WYLIE stated it as well.
DMAC is a NORTH/ SOUTH runner which is a term used for power blocking. He doesnt go east/west.
He doesnt allow for the hole to open up .. he is a zero to 100 miles out the gate which is why he is always running into the back of OLINE men. Reece is patient for the hole.. GOODSON has the hips for cutblack.
Why am i even explaining it to some guy to stupid to understand. BINGO
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i know more about football than ur whole family.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ok mistic—i’m gonna extend u an olive branch. i’m not joking. i have gone after u a lot. but i’m bored with it. u are who u are. maybe ur just defensive. we’ll start from scratch. deal?
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ill pass
I dont need friendship on a message board i interact with real people…you should try it
besides arent you already over run with friends here…you know your other blog handles
lol
gtfoh
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i didn’t say friendship. i was trying to stop the negativity.
name another handle of mine. and why it’s supposedly me.
ur just a liar dude.
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get off my nuts troll
I dont have any silver pieces for you
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says the troll
November 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
it isnt the zone blocking scheme that makes problems for dmac its asking dmac to run sideways to the outside zone that causes struggles for him.
If we kept the zbs but sent dmac in between the tackles he would do better. we saw this in the atl game i think it was.
Dmac excels going down hill, inside zone is where the power in zone scheme is supposed to be.
Knapp refused to let him do it
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no running backs are asked to run sideways.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
right cuz u were some water boy. I wont even tell u where i played cuz im not that type of dude. Whatever makes u sleep at night
November 28th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I was very skeptical of Pryor when he was in college, I didnt see him make very many plays with his arm, but now that he is a Raider and he talks the talk how could you be against him. I just hope he is REALLY improving on his footwork etc. if so we as Raider fans will be really happy for a lot of years.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
I’m also sick of all the moaning about the Palmer trade.
We were 4-2 at the time with a very good chance to take the division and make the playoffs for the first time in about 10 years. You would have preferred that we just packed it in at that point and hoped instead we could draft some players to start helping in 2-3 years instead? It was a gamble and even though most mock it, I still like the trade. Palmer may set a franchise record for passing yards this year. Unless Pryor gets a shot and somehow turns into what Mistic thinks he is, Palmer is our QB in 2013.
Everyone acts like every first round pick is Andrew Luck, Von Miller or Aldon Smith. Fact is those guys are the exception, not the rule. Most first rounders turn out to be OK, decent players. Close to half are basically busts. A few each year turn into big time difference makers. The reality is we were more likely to end up with another MClain type than someone really good. Who would be our QB right now if not Palmer? How do you think Tannehill or Weeded (who’s 3 years younger than Palmer) would do behind this offensive line?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Rock Cartwright@Rockgotti25
The Grass is not always Greener on the other side. Being in the league u don’t wanna get labeled as a guy with character issues #vet
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This is the kind of guy we need on our team. But hey we got TOLLEFSON and the runaway beer truck
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
right cuz u were some water boy. I wont even tell u where i played cuz im not that type of dude. Whatever makes u sleep at night
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LOL! ur obviously a very important expert.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Dr Robert, when are you going to put some pictures on that facebook page?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
beech refused to meet me. i created the page to take a picture and post it of when he would pretend to have met me and lie about it. but he’s pointless. i’m kinda moved on from him.
i’m bored with missdick too. after a while, their repetitive and cowardly routine gets old. they’re fun to play with for awhile, though.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
I’m also sick of all the moaning about the Palmer trade.=====
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its water under the bridge at this point, just like complaining that davis is dead or hu jack for that matter.
i will say though that at times revisiting the trade is necessary when looking at what to do moving forward.
Besides you still have local media claiming the trade was validated, so it seems to be a live topic a year and a half later.
you are correct though complaining does nothing
November 28th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
I’m also sick of all the moaning about the Palmer trade.
We were 4-2 at the time with a very good chance to take the division and make the playoffs for the first time in about 10 years. You would have preferred that we just packed it in at that point and hoped instead we could draft some players to start helping in 2-3 years instead? It was a gamble and even though most mock it, I still like the trade. Palmer may set a franchise record for passing yards this year. Unless Pryor gets a shot and somehow turns into what Mistic thinks he is, Palmer is our QB in 2013.
Everyone acts like every first round pick is Andrew Luck, Von Miller or Aldon Smith. Fact is those guys are the exception, not the rule. Most first rounders turn out to be OK, decent players. Close to half are basically busts. A few each year turn into big time difference makers. The reality is we were more likely to end up with another MClain type than someone really good. Who would be our QB right now if not Palmer? How do you think Tannehill or Weeded (who’s 3 years younger than Palmer) would do behind this offensive line?
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Exactly, not to mention he is not playing in the system he was traded to play in.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Here is the one un-arguable thing about Pryor, he shows improvement.
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When did you see his improvement? In preseason?
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Kapernick has improved in spite of not getting a lot of reps in practice.
Pryor said it Himself, regarding footwork and accuracy.
You can improve your game on the side IF you pound away at the fundamentals.
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dennis allen said he improved
whats the argument?
the head coach said so, is he lying?
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Even though it’s coming from the horses mouth, I like Pryor saying he feels confident he’s a much improved passer. Also, that he knows the playbook inside and out.
Teams having to worry about his legs may help ease pressure off him.
If Pryor can throw with accuracy? Wow.
I know I sound like an over-optimistic homer but i’m desperate for something …ANYTHING to look forward to.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Chris In NY Says:
I’m also sick of all the moaning about the Palmer trade.
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My issue was the ridiculous amount given up for him. I never had any problem with Palmer himself.
But it’s never, ever a good idea to trade away a #1 and #2 for a 30+ year old pick-prone QB who had been sitting on the couch for months after quitting on his previous team, and had a very severe injury in his history. You can’t really defend that.
Hue was an idiot. I honestly don’t believe he even negotiated through that trade. He just took the first thing the Bengals offered. Lunacy.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Rock Cartwright@Rockgotti25
The Grass is not always Greener on the other side. Being in the league u don’t wanna get labeled as a guy with character issues #vet
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Was that directed towards Morondo?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
6′6…runs like a gazelle.
IF he can throw?
I was at Camp Randall when Pryor had an awful game against a good Badger defense, but…he’s been working hard on his game.
Who knows.
Man, it’d be awesome if this guy is accurate.
I know he can throw deep.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Browns and Chiefs at home the next two weeks. Can’t think of a better time to get Pryor some playing time. The front office and coaching staff have already threw in the towel and given up, who cares. Let the kid get some reps ya never know.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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DMC ran a ZBS in Arkansas.
The moment you start blaming the scheme for DMC’s woes, its the moment you show how stupid you are.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He had his best season when Cable was our HC, Hue was our OC, and we ran the ZBS.
Blame Knapp and the OL coach!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
A team that is 3-8 or worse over 6 of 9 years, is lacking depth to such an unparalled way.
We can add some top-shelf talent (hopefully) in the draft and FA, but it will be years before we are a loaded team.
I look at those beach azz Donkeys. They drafted this guy Derek Wolfe in the 2nd round, and he is a complete stud. Yet the local radio and staff are almost complaining that they struggle to find ways to get him reps on their star-crossed D-line.
Imagine that!!!! Draft a beast D-lineman, yet struggle to find plays for him to play.
Derek Wolfe might be the best player on our team if we had him, certainly our defense. He is a backup in Donkeyland.
Pathetic.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
If Slowlondo is really gone this team can no longer avoid the REBUILD label. Reggie and DA have officially hit the detonator. Better now then never. I’m not really sure how to feel about. Regardless I’m rolling with the Raiders untill I Die. As much as I hate loosing it seems at this point its would be in the teams best interest to do so.
I will be patient with Big Reggie. But DA, not so much. And I believe the nation is in agreement. The only way DA can remain on this team is if Knapp is gone. If this organization wants to rebuild this team from the ground up, this offense needs to have better soil then Knapp. The next few weeks will be interesting. Look forward to seeing Pryor play. Hope he shows some real game potential.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
We can’t develop young talent.
McClain
Branch
Houston
Wiz
Veldheer
November 28th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
I heard on the radio on the way home that Bozondo was suspended for conduct issues. And then later asked to be relieve if his contract. Is the true?
I haven’t read through the rest of this thread yet, so apologies if its already been discussed.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
beech refused to meet me. i created the page to take a picture and post it of when he would pretend to have met me and lie about it. but he’s pointless. i’m kinda moved on from him.
i’m bored with missdick too. after a while, their repetitive and cowardly routine gets old. they’re fun to play with for awhile, though.
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Get a life, Cross posting Troll. Get some help.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Morilla, according to his Facebook page and tweets from various sources, he is gone. Let us hope it’s true.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I the Browns blow this team out on Sunday, and lets say put up 30-40 points, one of the coordinators will be fired.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Morilla, according to his Facebook page and tweets from various sources, he is gone. Let us hope it’s true.
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Yeah, I knew about the news. But something went down I think. Hacksaw specifically said suspended from the team for behavior issues.
Either way I don’t care. I’m glad that slug is gone.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
230,
Nope. Stay the course. “Let’s have some perspective here”.
“Patience is the cry”.
“Ten and then….”
November 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Threatened the coach his first year.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Maybe McClain was just suspended, and then he went on a facebook rant.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Ive been saying that since I read knapp was hired.
PALMER does not fit this offense.. just like DMAC doesnt fit this offense
WTF? 5 yrs from now Palmer will be saying the same thing about this ORG that he is saying about cincy right now.
Especially after firing hue.
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DMC ran a ZBS in Arkansas.
The moment you start blaming the scheme for DMC’s woes, its the moment you show how stupid you are.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He had his best season when Cable was our HC, Hue was our OC, and we ran the ZBS.
Blame Knapp and the OL coach!
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Or blame the people blocking for him.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
You know. I never thought Palmer was all that great when he was with the bengals. Then all of a sudden we get him out of no where and he’s our QB. I’ve seen flashes of what’s he is capable of and he is a really smart guy. Honestly he’s the best QB we’ve had in a long time. But he just isn’t consistent enough in my opinion. He makes way too many throws that he shouldn’t attempt. And the results are obvious. He is a good QB that throws too many pics. But you can’t just replace a QB before having a better one to replace him.
I think Pryor has the heart to be a great QB. But it takes more than heart. I hope we get to see what he can do soon.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Raider guy Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Threatened the coach his first year.
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At Alabama?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
lbert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Maybe McClain was just suspended, and then he went on a facebook rant.
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That is a logical assumption. He’s basically forcing his hand.
He’s been trying to get released since a lot sooner than this. The game tape wasnt enough so now the FB rant should finally get him his wish. He’s putting the coaches in a impossible position.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
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The plot thickens…
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
…And Justice For AL Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
You know. I never thought Palmer was all that great when he was with the bengals. Then all of a sudden we get him out of no where and he’s our QB. I’ve seen flashes of what’s he is capable of and he is a really smart guy. Honestly he’s the best QB we’ve had in a long time. But he just isn’t consistent enough in my opinion. He makes way too many throws that he shouldn’t attempt.
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Oh, and I supposed our WRs are the model of consistency?
Stop putting the cart before the horse people. You cant judge coaches until they have adequete players on the roster, and you cant judge a RB or QB without looking at their O-Line first.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
i for one am not upset about dumping romac.
I dont think he was a good fit for 4-3 but to me that is a smaller issue.
His clear lack of respect for human life,(you tube video) was a sign that the kid needs help. help we dont offer.
His comments upon his first media interview with when he hinted the nfl was no big deal was a red flag.
His jogging down field and so on were all reasons he had to go.
maybe this is wake up call for him and he can make good in his next stop.
as of now he is just a struggling player that needs to take accountability, needs to humble himself and improve.
denial isnt helping
November 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
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The plot thickens…
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So much for all the dumba55es here that say DA has no passion.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I hate this staff! I rather hire a new staff next year including a new HC, but I’m willing to give DA another chance, if he gets a new staff.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
…And Justice for AL Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
You know. I never thought Palmer was all that great when he was with the bengals. Then all of a sudden we get him out of no where and he’s our QB. I’ve seen flashes of what’s he is capable of and he is a really smart guy. Honestly he’s the best QB we’ve had in a long time. But he just isn’t consistent enough in my opinion. He makes way too many throws that he shouldn’t attempt. And the results are obvious. He is a good QB that throws too many pics. But you can’t just replace a QB before having a better one to replace him.
I think Pryor has the heart to be a great QB. But it takes more than heart. I hope we get to see what he can do soon.
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Yeah. We don’t know until we see him in action.
In my fantasy world, I see defenses afraid to blitz cuz he just avoids it and burns ‘em with his legs…or he starts to run and they all converge, then he suddenly stops and zips it 60 yd’s downfield to a wide open Jacoby Ford.
A man can dream can’t he?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I was on a 2 day Madden 13 marathon. It’s as close as a Raider fan can get to watching the team win.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
So much for all the dumba55es here that say DA has no passion.
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Idiots want DA to bash his players in press conferences. No coach with any amount of class who cares even the slightest about the locker room will do that.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
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The plot thickens…
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So much for all the dumba55es here that say DA has no passion.
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DA has no clue!
God help us!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
didnt curry have an issue with tweeting as well before his release?
looks like allen is having trouble keeping guys in line, and isnt getting any respect.
By dumping guys it should at least shut up the loud mouths.
That wont be enough to save allen though. He will need to produce a competitive product.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
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I knew it. Once i read the first tweet for football related reasons and DA didnt want to talk about it…
I said bet Rolando got into a fight with DA or LB coach. Either way teamates saw it.. Some probaly agree wiht ROLANDO.. some DONT. Either way.. the defense its gonna need to be rebuilt. BURRIS, maybe WHEELER, from starters. BRYANT.. Houston, shaunnsey, thats it. The rest can be gone
November 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told
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LOL
99,
Looks like 55 agrees with your take to “Tits”.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Maybe DA should get suspended for his 3-8 record.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
So much for all the dumba55es here that say DA has no passion.
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Idiots want DA to bash his players in press conferences. No coach with any amount of class who cares even the slightest about the locker room will do that.
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Exactly.
I just like pointing out the clowns with their agendas. Despite the fact that the media has all reported that DA is no saint on the practice squad, fans here still judge him by his sideline demeanor. Short of punching DHB in the throat for his next dropped catch, I dont know what DA is supposed to do that will make our players half way decent simply by his sideline actions.
This incident with RoMac is more proof that DA refuses to take any chit and will not lose this locker room without a fight. And you can bet he has the GM and ownerships support.
The other players will fall in line shortly.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
If DA is smart he’ll start Pryor on Sunday so when we get lambasted for the 5th straight record setting time he can blame it on “playin’ the young guys”.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
so really mcclain is not cut. I bet he was feeling sorry for himself .. thats why he went on the facebook rant figured he would be cut.
Either way they can suspend him.. and maybe trade him. MAYBE in the offseason.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Amazing how the highest paid chronic underperformers get more support here than the coaches. Al Davis lives.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
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This couldnt get any better. Loving this stuff.
So Rock was calling him out.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
what did his facebook page say/ anybody know?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Rock wanted to know what happened on twitter.. then fans told him.. so ya basically
November 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I was on a 2 day Madden 13 marathon. It’s as close as a Raider fan can get to watching the team win.
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The difference between real life and Madden….. LBs dont miss their gaps in Madden. If you call a play, they run it to the best of their physical traits. Which is why the Raiders have always been such a good team to use on the XBox if a person understands scheming.
Problem is in real life, a coach can call the right plays all he wants, our LBs still miss tackles and couldnt find the proper gap if you got it wet and rolled it in flour.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Another clueless mistake by this coaching staff.
Pryor is one of the most talented players on the team.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Rolando couldn’t get traded for a 2032 7th round pick.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Rock Cartwright @Rockgotti25
The Grass is not always Greener on the other side. Being in the league u don’t wanna get labeled as a guy with character issues #vet
November 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Hothead,actually Allen does have a clue.The ones that don’t have a clue are those that dominate this site-no names necessary,we all know who they are.(You aren’t one of them,BTW).
November 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Amazing how the highest paid chronic underperformers get more support here than the coaches. Al Davis lives.
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I love it when youre here posting.
You say all the stuff I want to say, only you are ten times as efficient.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
so really mcclain is not cut. I bet he was feeling sorry for himself .. thats why he went on the facebook rant figured he would be cut.
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They can’t cut him until Thursday per league procedures. By all accounts, he is gone. It’s just a formality that can’t be completed until tomorrow.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Does anyone know for sure if McClain was cut or did he walk off?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
237 at oakland
November 28th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
what did his facebook page say/ anybody know?
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He said he ‘was officially no longer an Oakland Raider’. He also said now he can go to a real team, and that he would rather be anywhere else but here.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
YA-you’ve been here most of this afternoon trying to be the voice of reason.My hat is off to you.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Haha I do what I can, Riff.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Does anyone know for sure if McClain was cut or did he walk off?
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Nothing has been confirmed. Just that he was missing from practice and that Allen had no comment on the situation. Then his facebook posts.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Amazing how the highest paid chronic underperformers get more support here than the coaches. Al Davis lives.
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It’s just that whole 3-8 and record setting margins of humiliation thing goin’ on that have guys a little bit down.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Appreciate it Lefty. Slow day at work. Have to keep myself entertained somehow.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Does anyone know what McClain did?
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Stood up and cried out loud: Mutiny. We’re taking over the ship…but didn’t quite have a 100% mutiny behind him so he just got the fck outta dodge.
Can you blame him. Captain Allen has us lost at sea. McClain will be the first of a number of players to jump ship.
Regardless of the player or players, this is all to telling. Other players have voiced their displeasure with this staff, but in subtler ways.
And btw, this site has some infections to it. Run a pc scan or security scan and see what pops up. Malware or Spybot, or MS Security Essentials (all free).
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Rolando was not cut.. it all makes sense now. I bet reggie is dealing with his agent.
But rolando basically wants to be cut and was feeling sorry for himself after that argument
DA is finally starting to grow hair on his nutz.. becoming the HC… the BIG MAN ON CAMPUS
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Regardless if he was just suspended, he is going to get cut eventually.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Lefty12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Hothead,actually Allen does have a clue.The ones that don’t have a clue are those that dominate this site-no names necessary,we all know who they are.(You aren’t one of them,BTW).
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Grumpy,,
What has he done to earn this much respect from you?
He is 3-8, was a DC for one year, and his defense wasn’t a top 10 defense.
I get it. He is not AL, so he is good?!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
What does it say that the dude gets into a fight with the coach, the throws his team under the bus…on Facebook? Nothin good.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
2012 the year of excuses. 2013 no excuses
November 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I am not a psychiatrist, but I think even a layman can see that McClain has a mental problem. Good riddance.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Raider guy Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
What does it say that the dude gets into a fight with the coach, the throws his team under the bus…on Facebook? Nothin good.
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Yup. Not the kind of player you build a team around.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Raider drama….al lives!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
It’s obvious McClain has anger issues.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
When al was here I don’t think he would get cut. The coach would be compromised and we would be starting over yet again. Maybe this is an important turning point for the regime and team.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Yo Albert,..still need that link?…lol
November 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I think why guys here are down on the coaches has to do with the fact this new regime has given us NOTHING to get excited about. It’s all unfulfilled promise at this point.
I can’t point to ANYTHING they have done that’s positive beyond Wheeler…and….i’m trying to think here.
Penalties!…that’s it.
If this were Parcells, or somebody who had a history of turning things around guys would be more supportive and hopeful, cuz guys like that have a history of turning things around.
DA comes in with some accolades and promise…as well as his 20th ranked defense acheivement. Not enuff when we see such regression from week to week.
That has to make sense doesn’t it?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
fireknapp @26DrDeath
its OFFICIAL the #oaklandraiders HAVE released line backer Rolando McClain
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November 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
This is not an “Al lives” drama. Al would have kept McClain and fired the coach.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
If Pryor doesn’t move the chains, we won’t be getting first downs.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Twocents Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
This is not an “Al lives” drama. Al would have kept McClain and fired the coach.
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That’s been the problem for the past 15 years.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
I of course was going to be there Sunday, now we are more excited then ever,..finally Reggie is getting rid of the cancers on the team,…hey its ok to be a cancer, as long as youre all pro,..and McLain was below average. Not a play maker,…I watch Niner games, Willis and those other linebackers,..wow,…then theres McLain,…whole different universe.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Bring back Gruden.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Twocents Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
This is not an “Al lives” drama. Al would have kept McClain and fired the coach.
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Correction. Al would have fired the coach, and given McClain a raise.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
my ranking of who has had the worst year in the raider organization 2012:
1) the players
2) reggie mckenzie
3)DA and his coaches
they all have underperformed. 2013 most the players will be gone,but reggie and DA will most likely be here. Reggie especially has been unimpressive, but I have to say the players have been even worse
November 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
McLain was just the beginning,..next will be Seymour.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
We have one of the worst defenses in the league. We need to get better on D.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Here’s your link Bob
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8688668/rolando-mcclain-released-oakland-raiders-according-source
November 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
If u guys want some fun, tune in right now to NFLN. They’re replaying the SD debacle. It’s in the 4th quarter now.
Coming up…the backbreaking 4th and 29 snafu.
Fun!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Kirk Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Bring back Gruden.
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Don’t be stupid. Can’t bring back something that doesn’t want to come back. Think for yourself instead of making same comment over and over.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Hothead,he inherited a pile of garbage-players who believed they are entitled because the owner,who unfortunately died,always had their back even when he shouldn’t have.He is trying to change a culture where the coaches aren’t treated as 2nd class citizens.The record bothers me,but it is a necessary evil.We must get rid of the malcontents who believe they run the ship.I personally like DA.I like his demeanor.It is easy to tell he is a no nonsense guy that won’t take any sh!t.That is what we need in a HC.Many don’t agree.That is the way things are.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
..right now there’s about 8 mins. left and SD is up 13-3.
Watch the implosion. It might make u feel better.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Our D really sucks. If we get better players, we’ll have better numbers. Then our D will be better.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Jimmy Caputi @ThatYoungSquire
Rolando McClain is available!!! C’mon Bills!!!!
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November 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
McLain was just the beginning,..next will be Seymour.
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thanks to reggie when that happens we will take a 5+million cap hit next year that didnt have to happen
November 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
It’s obvious McClain has anger issues.
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Wish he’d learn how to channel it in productive play.
Must have that passive aggressive form of it, and uses it all backwards.
Probably why he always fills the wrong gap. lol
November 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
That link was for you Albert,..it was told to me before Cork or ESPN.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
First time in 50 years that a head coach of the raiders could discipline a player. DA is my new hero in life. Viva’ la Dennis.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Cut huff, Kelly, Seymour, and branch….clean sweep of the overpaid garbage. Pull 4 guys off the practice squad to replace them…not like losing by 30 is much worse than we are doing now!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
That link was for you Albert,..it was told to me before Cork or ESPN.
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Were you having drinks with Amy again?
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I just watched every play from pryor first pre seaosn action agaisnt the cow pies..i saw enough to get excited for what he can bring to the table.
he also showed where he needs to improve, but at least we have something to look forward too.
he made some nice throws, nice reads, and of course some nifty runs.
This kid is going to surprise a lot of people before this season ends
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
3-7 as a GM isn’t going to cut it.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Hey Reg probably was told by Seymour hes all in, will bust his butt, kick butt,.,.all that,…Seymour lied.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
We play criner cause we drafted him and want to take a look.. we dont play tp because al drafted him… fùck you da..
Oh, and reece earned the right to carry and catch the ball last yr stupid… matchup nightmare àsshole. Stupid!!
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
peace
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Nope Albert but I will be Sunday morning.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I just watched every play from pryor first pre seaosn action agaisnt the cow pies..i saw enough to get excited for what he can bring to the table.
he also showed where he needs to improve, but at least we have something to look forward too.
he made some nice throws, nice reads, and of course some nifty runs.
This kid is going to surprise a lot of people before this season ends
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Every play? You just watched every play? didn’t you say the other day you watched every play of RGIII? And you watched every play of Cam?
Just hard to believe you sometimes.
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I’m with you KoolKell. If a player doesn’t want to be here, send him on his way.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Seymour has had more sacks than practices
November 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
300, I’m just trying to explain why guys might be down on this whole thing.
I want to be optimistic, and believe me, the moment i see anything i can get excited about i’ll be drinking the koolaid more than anybody.
I’m waving the Pryor pompons right now i’m so desperate for something good to happen to us.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Criner looks like a player though. The guy is catching everything right now.. That looks like a good draft pick.
I bet he will be better the moore will be in 3 yrs
November 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Not sure if its been reposted here but…
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
November 28th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
5 mis left and SD still up 13-3.
Not so fast SD. You have to hold ‘em on 4th and 29. Lol.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
This kid is going to surprise a lot of people before this season ends
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I hope so.
I want to see him play when I go to the Donkeys game. He throws a TD, I might buy a jersey.
May be the best thing we get from the fair skinned torchbearer, the professionalism and mental side of the game that he has instilled to Pryor.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
told ya…mclain turned the tables on DA….more if this going to happen….losing does tgat and he has lost this team…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
See that Al? That’s how it’s done, Al. I hate that you drug this organization into the grave with you. Now we have a huge hole to dig out of. Curse you, Crypt=master.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Lefty,
I take it back. DA booting McClain IS something positive I can wrap around.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Twocents Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I’m with you KoolKell. If a player doesn’t want to be here, send him on his way.
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Yup, and then he goes and publicity bad mouths the Raiders. Despite all the crap that’s been going on those season I think we can consider this a bright spot.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Dick Seymour = Baghdad Bob
November 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
325,
We are better with McClain gone. Imo.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Criner looks like a player though. The guy is catching everything right now.. That looks like a good draft pick.
I bet he will be better the moore will be in 3 yrs
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really–he had 3 catches for like 30 yards—thats crazy..Criner , hasnt shown half the potential dmoore has and quite frankly dmoore is a number 2 at best. think you caught the chaz schilens fever..catch a td and be projected as a star
November 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
criner “catch and down”….he fits perfect in krappys o
November 28th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
told ya…mclain turned the tables on DA….more if this going to happen….losing does tgat and he has lost this team…
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Shut up, pootbutt.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Gosh old kell,..relax,..theres a home game this sunday,.put on your raider gear and go enjoy it,..hit a few tailgates,…gonna be fun,..is copmplaining all you do in life man? Bummer.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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Easy to believe, actually. I just got done watching every play from last year, and I can say unequivocally that we won’t have a better record this year than lst year.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Ya really.. he actually catched the ball in traffic.. i said its my opinion from seeing the limited action he has been in and from preseason.
He has great hands. Criner. I see this kid fighting for the ball more then what the other wrs will do
November 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Oh my bad.. A raider fan actually liking a Reggie draft pick. I know it goes against the grain around here.
my bad
November 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Amazing how the highest paid chronic underperformers get more support here than the coaches. Al Davis lives.
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I hate McClain…These coaches deserve all their sh!t thrown their way. They fu**king suck. They will have fun coaching in front of 20,000 next year if Mark & Chubby Checker don’t fire them.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I just watched every play from pryor first pre seaosn action agaisnt the cow pies..i saw enough to get excited for what he can bring to the table.
he also showed where he needs to improve, but at least we have something to look forward too.
he made some nice throws, nice reads, and of course some nifty runs.
This kid is going to surprise a lot of people before this season ends
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Every play? You just watched every play? didn’t you say the other day you watched every play of RGIII? And you watched every play of Cam?
Just hard to believe you sometimes.
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yep re-watched every snap here you go
http://youtu.be/ghlPyDw-mfw
November 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I don’t think Allen has lost this team. If anything, the real players are glad to see the headcase gone.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I dont care how bad the Raiders are . Sunday is an easy win.
No way will the lose to the browns..
November 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
he does have great hands, height…just tgat when he catches it thats it. no chance for rac…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Gosh old kell,..relax,..theres a home game this sunday,.put on your raider gear and go enjoy it,..hit a few tailgates,…gonna be fun,..is copmplaining all you do in life man? Bummer.
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Tailgates are for drunks and punks. I prefer to sit at home with jammies on, chips and dip, and a remote control. Add in a Miller Light, and I’m as happy as a stewed clam.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Ya really.. he actually catched the ball in traffic.. i said its my opinion from seeing the limited action he has been in and from preseason.
He has great hands. Criner. I see this kid fighting for the ball more then what the other wrs will do
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way too early to be using Criner and great hands in the same sentence.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Reggie drafted a LB in the 4th round who is better than the #8 pick in the draft.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
That catch Criner caught over the middle was a horrendous pass from Palmer, that was high and off target, a recipe for a pick 6 in the NFL.
Criner saved his bacon.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I dont care how bad the Raiders are . Sunday is an easy win.
No way will the lose to the browns..
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Blind, stupid and drunk is no way to go through life. Ask NorcoBob. Browns will run away with it, 37-12. And it won’t be that close.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
It doesnt matter to me the record,…it did when I was a kid,..but I pretty much enjoy the games win or lose,..I would rather they win but doesnt change my life either way. Going to the games cant be beat,..tailgating with thousands of the Nation, then goin in the coliseum,..cant beat it.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Rolando McClain and Raiders Coach Dennis Allen had a heated exchange early in practice I’m told. Ended with McClain booted from field…
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This was probably the last straw for DOA. It’s about time someone put McCheese on notice and done something about his attitude. He’s the team’s main check casher who gives nothing in return. We won’t is him & won’t be bumping into him any longer. He was always late and at the wrong place on the field. A detriment to the team in every measure. Good riddance.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Wait wait.
Did Rolando actually have a point when said he wants to play for a “real team” was that directed at Dennis Allen???
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Kirk Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Bring back Gruden.
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Don’t be stupid. Can’t bring back something that doesn’t want to come back. Think for yourself instead of making same comment over and over.
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for the record, Gruden did want to come back. Al refused the olive branch.
Would Gruden want to come back under the new reggime? I have no idea. I only know that Gruden did offer to return at one point and coach under Al again.
He’s always felt there was unfinished business here.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
That catch Criner caught over the middle was a horrendous pass from Palmer, that was high and off target, a recipe for a pick 6 in the NFL.
Criner saved his bacon.
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CP put it exactly where it had to be. Criner did his job. CP did a better job. Deal with it.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
miss
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I don’t think Allen has lost this team. If anything, the real players are glad to see the headcase gone.
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The loudest, most out-spoken are always in the minority
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Easy win for the browns.. gonna be one of those Fools gold win for the RAiders.
I dont care that hte browns had 8 turnerover vs the steelers. Its the f’n browns!!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
That catch Criner caught over the middle was a horrendous pass from Palmer, that was high and off target, a recipe for a pick 6 in the NFL.
Criner saved his bacon.
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That is what a WR is supposed to do.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
McLain is a POS punk, wannabe tough guy with a gun,…the Raiders just got a lot better since some intern dropped him off at the Oakland Airport.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I dont care how bad the Raiders are . Sunday is an easy win.
No way will the lose to the browns..
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Are we even favored? At this point, I don’t expect us to beat Lock Haven University.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Not gonna scroll through over 300 posts to find out, so forgive me if someone has already said this, but it sounds to me like McClain got read the riot act by Allen and decided to quit the team and ask for his release.
Raiders haven’t waived or cut him officially, and that’s usually the way releases are made public. His comments lead me to believe that this was his idea.
Just my opinion, but that’s what it seems to me.
For the record, I wanted Maukice Pouncey, the center out of Florida, in that draft. Was told I was out of my mind, that teams don’t take centers in the first round. Well, three Pro Bowls later for him (a first-round pick by the Steelers, by the way), here we are without a leader on our o-line and another bust of a first rounder apparently no longer with the team.
Sounds about right.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Easy win for the Raiders i meant. Fools gold win 4 the raiders.
Browns forced 8 turnovers vs steelers. Well Raiders handled business vs the queerlers
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
McLain is a POS punk, wannabe tough guy with a gun,…the Raiders just got a lot better since some intern dropped him off at the Oakland Airport.
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Agreed.
Let’s face it, McClain was never what we hoped he would be and it’s pretty foolish to think he would improve for us. Rather than pay a guy we know isn’t getting it done, let’s move on.
Coming out of college, like in the pros, McClain struggled in coverage. He lacked an elite closing burst getting to the ball carrier. He was undisciplined in the run game, frequently bailed out by stellar team mates, and was penalized. He is also a shoddy tackler, and I don’t mean he can’t tackle but I have never once seen him in college or in the pro’s attempt an actual form tackle (while he is strong enough to get the guy down most of the time, it has occasionally resulted in penalties, yards after contact, and broken tackles.)
Maybe in a 3-4 his weaknesses can be masked, particularly against the pass, but honestly a 2-down strongside LB is probably the best he’s going to get. Even his “leadership skills” which he was so famed for appear to be a wash.
McClain has been here 3 years, and our defense in PPG has ranked what… 27th at the highest? Yeah. You will be missed buddy.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Because you say stupid things, and I get lumped in with you due to our race. You are like a ticking timebomb, waiting to self implode. I don’t believe you went and watched. You state it because you think it helps your madeup story.
Just stop with the lies, and stick to facts.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
this team has quit on him there are more quitting every week ….watch this week..,DA deserves it, treating grown men like kids.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
That catch Criner caught over the middle was a horrendous pass from Palmer, that was high and off target, a recipe for a pick 6 in the NFL.
Criner saved his bacon.
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That is what a WR is supposed to do.
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criner has had 2-3 nice plays in 11 games..lets not go overboard.ive yet seen him be able to create separation consistently.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
This is the worst org in all of sports. Why would anyone worth anything want to play in a place that has a history of sucking?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
First time in 50 years that a head coach of the raiders could discipline a player. DA is my new hero in life. Viva’ la Dennis.
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You must not remember Bugel with larry Brown, Shell with Marcus & Porter, Callahan with Woodson, Gruden with David Dunn, Shell with Hoss, etc…Right DA is the man! Historical ineptitude!!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
sounds like mclain wanted real coaching…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Raiders draft Rolando McClain 8th overall
49ers Select Navarro Bowman 3rd round.
Tuesday – Navarro Bowman extend his contract 5yr 45 million wiht 25 mill guarenteed.
THursday- Raiders will cut ROLANDO mClain.
Damn will the Raiders ever get a good move??? lmao
November 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I mean coach in a place. Players will play anywhere as long as you cut them a check.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Maybe knapp and DA will have a heated exchange and knapp walks out next.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
That is what a WR is supposed to do.
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criner has had 2-3 nice plays in 11 games..lets not go overboard.ive yet seen him be able to create separation consistently.
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lets not go overboard.. he is finally getting a chance to play
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I think we should boycott the NFL if we keep getting all these east coast games. Definitely a conspiracy. Maybe we can meet like half way or something.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Because you say stupid things, and I get lumped in with you due to our race. You are like a ticking timebomb, waiting to self implode. I don’t believe you went and watched. You state it because you think it helps your madeup story.
Just stop with the lies, and stick to facts.
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somebody has hijacked kk’s handle
he doesnt even speak like this lol
cross posters at it again
yawn
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
criner cannot seperate from nfl cbs…not fast enough. every pass to him will have to be a jump ball…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Not gonna scroll through over 300 posts to find out, so forgive me if someone has already said this, but it sounds to me like McClain got read the riot act by Allen and decided to quit the team and ask for his release.
Raiders haven’t waived or cut him officially, and that’s usually the way releases are made public. His comments lead me to believe that this was his idea.
Just my opinion, but that’s what it seems to me.
For the record, I wanted Maukice Pouncey, the center out of Florida, in that draft. Was told I was out of my mind, that teams don’t take centers in the first round. Well, three Pro Bowls later for him (a first-round pick by the Steelers, by the way), here we are without a leader on our o-line and another bust of a first rounder apparently no longer with the team.
Sounds about right.
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Teach, your’re not out of your mind, I wanted Alex Mack the year we drafted DHB.
My reasoning was that if Mack ends up in the Pro Bowl nobody will remember where He was drafted.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Maybe we should bring back Cable so he can knock DA down, and the whole team can surround DA and yell ‘YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FCK OUT”
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
357-bingo,you see it every week when you watch NFL games.Its nice to finally see someone in the Silver and Black finally doing it.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Criner seperates just find from what ive seen.. in fact he always creates a space to catch the ball. Saw him pick up major yac in that baltimore game off a bubble screen
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
maclain may have disagreed but he lacked professional ethic
trim the fat
peace
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Al is the raiders,..youre an idiot,…the players just thought a lot higher of DA for getting rid of that POS bich. McLain was the main reason the team underachieved,..hes nothing but cancer,..and that tumor finally was removed. Props to DA and Reg.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
cross poster cross dresser the same thing…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
which player is next to turn in his raider jersey cuz he cant stand DA???
pick which one???
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
this team has quit on him there are more quitting every week ….watch this week..,DA deserves it, treating grown men like kids.
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That is because they are kids.
Arrested development doesnt even begin to explain pro athletes/entertainers.
McClain is 23. Hardly an adult my civilian standards let alone a star LBer.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Because you say stupid things, and I get lumped in with you due to our race. You are like a ticking timebomb, waiting to self implode. I don’t believe you went and watched. You state it because you think it helps your madeup story.
Just stop with the lies, and stick to facts.
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somebody has hijacked kk’s handle
he doesnt even speak like this lol
cross posters at it again
yawn
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There you go again. You disagree with someone, and immediately they must be a cross poster.
See what I mean? You’re such a dramaqueen.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Tom ‘pimp hand’ Cable. Nobody fcked with him.
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Maybe we should bring back Cable so he can knock DA down, and the whole team can surround DA and yell ‘YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FCK OUT”
November 28th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Nobody Fcked with Cable. Hue basically had to snitch on cable to AL so he can get the HC job .. like a weasel.
Told al.. Cable was pimpin on the road bringing girls on the road..
November 28th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Although we all have our own opinions about the Raiders and often disagree, there is no doubt this is the most informed, reasonable and active board for Raiders fans.
Have you ever looked at some of the comments on the Raiders Facebook page or on some of the other news sites? Some of the commenters on there are completely lost. They think we should do things like cut Janikowski or that we could trade McFadden for “a bunch of picks.”
My point is that you sportos, motorheads, geeks, sIuts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dikheds — I adore you all. I think you’re righteous dudes.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
lol at freddie roach questing marquez muscle growth
the pot calling the kettle black
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Well then clearly you are not ready to evaluate NFL talent.
There are about zero people who know football and consider Pryor NFL ready. Not by his college play or his preseason play.
Pryor has not shown he is capable of reading an NFL defense. Heck, in college he was given only half-field reads. What makes you think he will be able to go over progressions at this level? If preseason showed anything, it was that he cannot read defenses effectively, and aside from a few runs will not generate much offense.
Maybe I’m wrong and he has transformed himself. Maybe he’s a totally different player, but then again, maybe JaMarcus Russell is too. Either way, you bench Palmer and you run the risk he goes all Cincinnatti on you, and he will never play as well as he is now.
Regardless of your Palmer opinion, it’s pretty safe to assume that the pass game is performing the best of our offensive or defensive units on a week to week basis because we can’t stop anybody and we can’t run the ball worth a lick. It would be extremely foolish to risk the best part of our team when we have so many holes. This isn’t San Francisco, where just about anyone could be plugged in and win 10 games a year on the strength of their defense and run game.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
didnt mean to offend you with the cross dresser comment gruden…my bad
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Here’s a hint for everyone.
If you have a big male dog, and you are going to scrub the floor? Make sure you have shorts on when you get on your knees.
Didn’t know I could scream that loud.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Criner seperates just find from what ive seen.. in fact he always creates a space to catch the ball. Saw him pick up major yac in that baltimore game off a bubble screen
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TEs rarely seperate, so even if Criner’s speed is suspect, he makes up for it with what appears to be above average body positioning.
I want to see more of the kid. We need guys with hands that can run the right routes. Until then, I dont care about speed.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
didnt mean to offend you with the cross dresser comment gruden…my bad
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You come across as a moron. Know one expects anything more.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
You didnt offend me,..youve never offended anyone here,..you barely get noticed bud. Sorry.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
376.RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Not gonna scroll through over 300 posts to find out, so forgive me if someone has already said this, but it sounds to me like McClain got read the riot act by Allen and decided to quit the team and ask for his release.
Raiders haven’t waived or cut him officially, and that’s usually the way releases are made public. His comments lead me to believe that this was his idea.
Just my opinion, but that’s what it seems to me.
For the record, I wanted Maukice Pouncey, the center out of Florida, in that draft. Was told I was out of my mind, that teams don’t take centers in the first round. Well, three Pro Bowls later for him (a first-round pick by the Steelers, by the way), here we are without a leader on our o-line and another bust of a first rounder apparently no longer with the team.
Sounds about right.
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Teach, your’re not out of your mind, I wanted Alex Mack the year we drafted DHB.
My reasoning was that if Mack ends up in the Pro Bowl nobody will remember where He was drafted.
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Especially after he’s been the rock and the leader of your o-line for about ten years and is virtually an automatic for the Pro Bowl all the time.
Like the centers we used to have, you know, back when we had great o-lines?
Not a coincidence that they all featured great centers.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Thanks Chris!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
which player is next to turn in his raider jersey cuz he cant stand DA???
pick which one???
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I don’t think I see another player on the roster who would take it there. Many may and probably already have started to mail it in with their performance on the field though.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
this team has quit on him there are more quitting every week ….watch this week..,DA deserves it, treating grown men like kids.
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That is because they are kids.
Arrested development doesnt even begin to explain pro athletes/entertainers.
McClain is 23. Hardly an adult my civilian standards let alone a star LBer.
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For many I believe it’s true.
I’d think however a Guy like Rolando would have been more mature because of His background.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
I know its preason.. but did you see the way CRINER “MOSS’D” that dback on the long roll pass from PRYOR???
CRINER GOT HOPS ..then the hands to actually catch the ball.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
which player is next to turn in his raider jersey cuz he cant stand DA???
pick which one???
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Hopefully Briesel.
Briesel or DHB have to be the next two worst players on this team with regards to their paycheck-performance relation.
DHB at least puts in the effort and continues to get better, even if he is still very average.
So I say dump Briesel. What about you?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
lol at freddie roach questing marquez muscle growth
the pot calling the kettle black
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You said bye three times. Said “peace out” three times. And one minute later, you’re posting again.
Do you have a life?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
LOL Chris, good one.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Here’s a hint for everyone.
If you have a big male dog, and you are going to scrub the floor? Make sure you have shorts on when you get on your knees.
Didn’t know I could scream that loud.
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Thanks for that. VG, fake Kell.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/08/25/22/27/1mWX2A.St.4.jpeg
here is the pic
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
There you go again. You disagree with someone, and immediately they must be a cross poster.
See what I mean? You’re such a dramaqueen.
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LMAO!!! BUSTED!!!
KK AND I DIDNT HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS!! LOL
I CALLED DR.ROB A CROSS POSTER AND HE SAID “YOU DISAGREE AND THEY ARE A CROSS POSTER”
LOL
YOU TOLD ON YOURSELF DR.SLOB!!!
WHAT A MENTAL MIDGET?!?!
YOU WENT TOT HE TROUBLE OF HIJACKING A HANDLE SIMPLY TO ENGAGE ME IN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT ME WATCHING QBS PLAY?!?!?!
SAD LITTLE TROLL GET A LIFE
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Especially after he’s been the rock and the leader of your o-line for about ten years and is virtually an automatic for the Pro Bowl all the time.
Like the centers we used to have, you know, back when we had great o-lines?
Not a coincidence that they all featured great centers.
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That was the basis of my reasoning.
Otto, Dalby, Mosebar, Robbins…
That’s not coincidental.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Thanks Chris!
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My name isn’t Chris. Why are you calling me Chris?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
382-something you know a lot about?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
I really think DMAC wants out..there was rumors last year on another raider board that he wanted to go to a contender. rumors tho.
How could u be happy being stuck back with KNAPP though?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I think Streater has more potential than Criner. What do you guys think?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Our next great WR wont be drafted till next year im thinking.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
this team has quit on him there are more quitting every week ….watch this week..,DA deserves it, treating grown men like kids.
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That is because they are kids.
Arrested development doesnt even begin to explain pro athletes/entertainers.
McClain is 23. Hardly an adult my civilian standards let alone a star LBer.
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For many I believe it’s true.
I’d think however a Guy like Rolando would have been more mature because of His background.
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For many? For all.
Ive been around and worked with pro athletes and entertainers my entire adult life.
I can count on one hand the number that could act even close to their age. Even the most humble superstar still suffers some maturity issues behind the scenes. It’s inevitable.
Every once in a blue moon you come across a exception to the rule. But they all have entitlement issues. I love the saying that goes, “if they act entitiled, its because they are entitled, get over it”. Which is true.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
407.RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Especially after he’s been the rock and the leader of your o-line for about ten years and is virtually an automatic for the Pro Bowl all the time.
Like the centers we used to have, you know, back when we had great o-lines?
Not a coincidence that they all featured great centers.
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That was the basis of my reasoning.
Otto, Dalby, Mosebar, Robbins…
That’s not coincidental.
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Agreed 1000%.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
cpatton Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Well then clearly you are not ready to evaluate NFL talent.
There are about zero people who know football and consider Pryor NFL ready. Not by his college play or his preseason play.
Pryor has not shown he is capable of reading an NFL defense.
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lol
watch the clip i posted and listen as JOHn gruden points out when terrele goes through progressions and makes the correct reads.
ill take grudens word
thanks for your input though
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
There you go again. You disagree with someone, and immediately they must be a cross poster.
See what I mean? You’re such a dramaqueen.
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LMAO!!! BUSTED!!!
KK AND I DIDNT HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS!! LOL
I CALLED DR.ROB A CROSS POSTER AND HE SAID “YOU DISAGREE AND THEY ARE A CROSS POSTER”
LOL
YOU TOLD ON YOURSELF DR.SLOB!!!
WHAT A MENTAL MIDGET?!?!
YOU WENT TOT HE TROUBLE OF HIJACKING A HANDLE SIMPLY TO ENGAGE ME IN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT ME WATCHING QBS PLAY?!?!?!
SAD LITTLE TROLL GET A LIFE
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Look how excited you are. upper case letters. All jazzed because you were last to the party to figure the easy stuff out. Like a little kid jumping up and down, saying “mommy, I know, I know, pick me. pick me.”
And aren’t you the sensitive one? Been posting to everyone, and here you feel all special.
Pat on the head, Mistic. You are such a big boy.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Well with McClain being on his out….that goes down as another Raider bust pick.
The culture of losing sure doesn’t help these players stay motivated.
However, with RoMac on his way out….this should open the door for the Raiders to hopefully draft stud Notre Dame MLB/ILB Manti Te’o so he can be the new leader of a rebuilt Raider defense next year.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Hopefully Criner could turn out to be our big possession reciever.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Here’s a hint for everyone.
If you have a big male dog, and you are going to scrub the floor? Make sure you have shorts on when you get on your knees.
Didn’t know I could scream that loud.
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Thanks for that. VG, fake Kell.
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STFU pootbutt. Nothing fake about Big Brutus. Trust me on that. Hung like a shetland pony.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I think Streater has more potential than Criner. What do you guys think?
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I like Streater. But he’s on the hotseat with me. Too many dropped balls for my liking.
Sprinkle in some Jerry Rice work ethic and he can be great. Hell, even some DHB type work ethic and the sky becomes the limit for Streater.
But I need to see it come to fruition. We’ve seen Streaters type before, Louis Murphy showed the same promise. So did Curry.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
which player is next to turn in his raider jersey cuz he cant stand DA???
pick which one???
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Maybe the 3rd shattiest player on the team now that the first (Curry) and 2nd (McCLain) are gone.
Looking at you Tommy Kelly.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
God I hate listening to Alan speak… Reese burned his opportunities catching and receiving the ball last year stupid.. These idiots don’t know how to use any of our talent. And now the team is quit on him and they started rolling his eyes and practice when he speaks
November 28th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Lets hope McKenzie is more consistent when it comes to drafting real football players than old man Al did.
Then we have to hope McK tells DA to get rid of Knapp and Pollack and that cray zone blocking system and bring back Wylie and Wiz and get back to power, trap, counter, gap blocking like the team was doing the last two years.
They need to do it, before Knapp and Pollacks crap system ruins DMC’s career.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
BBL.Wife ran out of douche. And one thing you do not want is to be in the same room with a woman that is doucheless. My wife always has a douche closeby.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I think Streater has more potential than Criner. What do you guys think?
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I think they both have potential. Criner excites me more. Could be a poor man’s Calvin Johnson.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I said Reese earned his opportunities last year stupid phone
November 28th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
For many? For all.
Ive been around and worked with pro athletes and entertainers my entire adult life.
I can count on one hand the number that could act even close to their age. Even the most humble superstar still suffers some maturity issues behind the scenes. It’s inevitable.
Every once in a blue moon you come across a exception to the rule. But they all have entitlement issues. I love the saying that goes, “if they act entitiled, its because they are entitled, get over it”. Which is true.
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Riff, if it’s your business I’ll take you at your word.
Sad.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
417.DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Well with McClain being on his out….that goes down as another Raider bust pick.
The culture of losing sure doesn’t help these players stay motivated.
However, with RoMac on his way out….this should open the door for the Raiders to hopefully draft stud Notre Dame MLB/ILB Manti Te’o so he can be the new leader of a rebuilt Raider defense next year.
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We need a leader on defense in the worst way. All due respect to Seymour, but the leader of that defense has to lead ALL the time, and from the front. That means playing the vast majority of the snaps and it means not missing practice. He has to be there all the time, and it has to be “his” defense.
I realize those guys don’t grow on trees, but you have to have at least one. If you don’t, you can’t be great on defense.
I think players respect Richard Seymour, but I don’t think he inspires anybody.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
YA, You were talking about DA having passion and all that. I don’t know, but I do know we need to see him trot out a team that PLAYS.
Until then, it’s all speculation and hope.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
NFLN RIGHT NOW. Sound Fx from the Cincy disaster.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Hopefully Criner could turn out to be our big possession reciever.-
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When some were asking for Plax, I thought of Criner.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Marks Hair Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I said Reese earned his opportunities last year stupid phone
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And then he promptly blew it by not showing up to camp on time.
I said he’d have a slow start as a result, some of you idiots argued with me about it. And sure enough, he’s had a slow start.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Before I go, Mistic, can you tell me again how TP is a super stud because DA said he’s showing improvement?
I have to go sweep at the barbershop tomorrow, and need some good conversation.
Holla
November 28th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Ok, my Impersonator is here, living through me. I told him to get a life, he chose me. Lol.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
417.DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Well with McClain being on his out….that goes down as another Raider bust pick.
The culture of losing sure doesn’t help these players stay motivated.
However, with RoMac on his way out….this should open the door for the Raiders to hopefully draft stud Notre Dame MLB/ILB Manti Te’o so he can be the new leader of a rebuilt Raider defense next year.
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We need a leader on defense in the worst way. All due respect to Seymour, but the leader of that defense has to lead ALL the time, and from the front. That means playing the vast majority of the snaps and it means not missing practice. He has to be there all the time, and it has to be “his” defense.
I realize those guys don’t grow on trees, but you have to have at least one. If you don’t, you can’t be great on defense.
I think players respect Richard Seymour, but I don’t think he inspires anybody.
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Very well said.
Rich is a respected player, but he’s far from a leader. He wasnt the leader in NE, that is why he was expendable. Teddy Bruschi and others led that team.
We do need a real leader on D, and on O for that matter. Carson needs to show that fire he had during his locker room speech at Cincy, but he needs to do it ALL OF THE TIME like Gannon did.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I HEARD ON THE RADIO THAT ONE OF THE RULE CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR WAS NO BLOCKING BELOW THE WAIST. THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE ZBS WOULD IT NOT? SORRY ABOUT CAP LOCK.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DA just doesn’t seem to bring any passion, energy or charisma as head coach.
That type of stuff resonates with players.
Gruden and Hue brought serious passion, energy and charisma as head coaches.
That is why they were the best head coaches the Raiders had the last 12 years.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Reece had a slow start due to th gameplans of an idiot.. missing a few days did not.. we should have paid the man.. best hands and best power runner on the team.. it was established last yr…
. Stupid coaches…. fire them.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Coaches need leaders on the field to be their enforcers otherwise their hands will always be tied.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Before I go, Mistic, can you tell me again how TP is a super stud because DA said he’s showing improvement?
I have to go sweep at the barbershop tomorrow, and need some good conversation.
Holla
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You’re such a pathetic coward. Cant even present himself under his own name.That plays on your self esteem, dummy.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Johnny,
Missed it. Anything worthwhile?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DA just doesn’t seem to bring any passion, energy or charisma as head coach.
That type of stuff resonates with players.
Gruden and Hue brought serious passion, energy and charisma as head coaches.
That is why they were the best head coaches the Raiders had the last 12 years.
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Explain Lovey Smith, Toney Dungey, and Marvin Lewis for me then.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Coaches need leaders on the field to be their enforcers otherwise their hands will always be tied.
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Coaches need to be leaders too. Maybe inspire some players, perhaps?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The whole offense had a slow start and they were in camp on time..
Sorry guy these coaches suck dìck
November 28th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
DA has been run over already and he knows he has lost the team…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Should have been activated since day 1. This whole season has been nothing but a 16 game preseason evaluation anyway., and the results are in…88% of this entire team, coaches included, should not have their present jobs…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
For many? For all.
Ive been around and worked with pro athletes and entertainers my entire adult life.
I can count on one hand the number that could act even close to their age. Even the most humble superstar still suffers some maturity issues behind the scenes. It’s inevitable.
Every once in a blue moon you come across a exception to the rule. But they all have entitlement issues. I love the saying that goes, “if they act entitiled, its because they are entitled, get over it”. Which is true.
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Riff, if it’s your business I’ll take you at your word.
Sad.
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Yep, its been mine and my families business since I was a kid. Musicians and athletes.
IDK if I would call it sad. Its just the reality and nature of things. My awarness of all the angles and my ability to reach the athletes/entertainers has been my saving grace.
Communication is key. Even if you are speaking to someone who can barely read.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
im just gonna say MANTI may or may not be the guy. Carefull how u views these college players. MANTI is playing with a STUD DLINE IN FRONT OF HIM.
REGGIE is gonna have to hit one out of the ball park with the next kid he drafts to PLAY MLB.
We could have had a nice stop gap with Vontaze Burfict with our last 7th round draft pick. Instead he picks NATHAN STUPAR lmao wtf.. man.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
77.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I think I am going to cry.
Anyone want a #55 jersey?
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I’ll pay the shipping again. Put it right next to JaMarcus.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
In honor of Eddie Money, a buddy of Mark Davis’ who performed at the Coliseum earlier this year, I touched up “Two Tickets to Paradise” into a version that Chubby Checker and DA should sing at halftime of the Browns game:
DA: This one’s for you, Raider Nation.
CHUBBY: I’ve got a surprise especially for you,
Raiders are moving on, without Al’s boy Hue.
BOTH: You’ve waited so long, waited so long.
You’ve waited so long, waited so long.
DA: We’re gonna take you on a trip so far from here,
I’ve got two tickets in my pocket, just lose baby, we’re gonna disappear.
BOTH: You fans have waited so long, waited for so long.
You’ve waited so long, waited for so long.
DA: I’ve got … two tickets to 3 and 13,
Won’t you … pack it in, we’ll give no fight,
I’ve got two tickets to 3 and 13,
I’ve got two tickets to 3 and 13.
CHUBBY: oh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh
oh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh
CHUBBY: We’re gonna take you on a trip so far from here,
I’ve got two tickets in my pocket, now baby, we’re gonna disappear.
BOTH: You fans have waited so long, waited for so long.
You’ve waited so long, waited for so long.
DA: I’ve got … two tickets to 3 and 13,
Won’t you … pack it in, we’ll give no fight,
BOTH: We’ve got … two tickets to 3 and 13,
We’ve got … two tickets to 3 and 13.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Coaches need leaders on the field to be their enforcers otherwise their hands will always be tied.
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Coaches need to be leaders too. Maybe inspire some players, perhaps?
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Do you really think that is our problem?
Gruden gutted this team when he got here also. It took 2 years for him to weed the dumpster divers out.
How quickly we forget.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DA just doesn’t seem to bring any passion, energy or charisma as head coach.
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You mean the guy who just told the team’s starting middle linebacker & top 10 pick two years ago to get the fck gone and never come back?
Yeah, no passion there.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
There is no silver bullet to coaching.
You have great coaches who are quiet (Dungy) and quiet coaches who stink (Crennel).
You have fiery coaches who excel (Cowher, Fisher) and you have fiery coaches who crash and burn, sooner or later (Todd Haley, Rex Ryan).
Your either a good coach or a bad coach. One’s style has nothing to do with it.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
DA seems to be trying to show he’s in control by sending Romac to the showers…
Romac seems to be forcing his hand with the social media blasts.
Could be enough to suspend him, ala Jerry Porter, and keep him off the field for the rest of the season…Reggie has to pay him, so he might as well try to get ANYTHING for him I return…maybe a bag of practice balls or something.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Ok the thing wiht McClain. he was a great college player.
But he never got better.
Manti has a high ceiling. He can take his game to another few levels if he wants.. and he will need to in the NFL. I see Manti Te’o taking his craft seriously
November 28th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Your either a good coach or a bad coach. One’s style has nothing to do with it.
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AMEN
I swear I was the only one who thought this.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
443.KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Coaches need leaders on the field to be their enforcers otherwise their hands will always be tied.
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Coaches need to be leaders too. Maybe inspire some players, perhaps?
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Do you think guys like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis need coaches to inspre them? How about Pat Willis and Navarro Bowman? Polamalu and Harrison?
The point is that you have to have guys on the field that are going to kick somebody’s a** if they’re not performing. Coaches call plays and teach technique and can call on players to give everything they have when they’re on the field, but it’s the guys playing alongside you that make the biggest difference.
As they say, it’s 10 per cent scheme and 90 per cent execution.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
radraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I HEARD ON THE RADIO THAT ONE OF THE RULE CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR WAS NO BLOCKING BELOW THE WAIST. THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE ZBS WOULD IT NOT? SORRY ABOUT CAP LOCK.
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That’s right.
So the visonaries who implemented this zbs in lieu of an offense that was doing just fine the year prior didn’t know this?
I heard this was possible before the season started.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
New, young coaches need to show players, that his schit works. Period. This is the NFL.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Chris #450 Is freakin’ FUNNY
November 28th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
There you go again. You disagree with someone, and immediately they must be a cross poster.
See what I mean? You’re such a dramaqueen.
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LMAO!!! BUSTED!!!
KK AND I DIDNT HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS!! LOL
I CALLED DR.ROB A CROSS POSTER AND HE SAID “YOU DISAGREE AND THEY ARE A CROSS POSTER”
LOL
YOU TOLD ON YOURSELF DR.SLOB!!!
WHAT A MENTAL MIDGET?!?!
YOU WENT TOT HE TROUBLE OF HIJACKING A HANDLE SIMPLY TO ENGAGE ME IN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT ME WATCHING QBS PLAY?!?!?!
SAD LITTLE TROLL GET A LIFE
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Look how excited you are. upper case letters. All jazzed because you were last to the party to figure the easy stuff out. Like a little kid jumping up and down, saying “mommy, I know, I know, pick me. pick me.”
And aren’t you the sensitive one? Been posting to everyone, and here you feel all special.
Pat on the head, Mistic. You are such a big boy.
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LMAO!!!!
ladies and gents i give you resident sick-o and certified basement dweller MADDENRAIDER!!!!!
This guy is really troubled.
MR, why would you try and ruin another mans name?
If you want to be a jack ass dont you have the balls to do it as yourself?
i mean your safe behind anonymity and the cozy confines of your moms basement. that must be the all time lowest weasel move I have ever seen any where in my life?!?!
After all these years you still upset about…. wait for it… Bruce gradkowski?!?!?!?! So you create handles, hi jack others, all to engage your various personalities in staged disagreements, and circle jerking suck fest?!?!/
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You really forgot which personality you were in when you engaged me earlier?!?!?!
you dont have to be alone MR there are several treatment options for your kind these days.
HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!.
I cane believe that just happened, i better book mark this.
Ok now I can go…..damn what a nutbag
November 28th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
What do you think our projected draft spot will be? And what will the other teams needs ahead of us be? Will they be willing to take a LB at 1?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I’ll pay the shipping again. Put it right next to JaMarcus.
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It’s a memorial Hall of Shame!!!!
I think I still got the address saved in my e-mails if it’s the same as before.
I’ll spare you the shipping this go round, but you owe us an SEC player worth an ish.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
With the 3rd or 4th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select, MANTI TE’O, LB Notre Dame!!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Manti looks focused here
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c118.0.403.403/p403×403/396580_10151250744388290_543766093_n.jpg
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Dont trip KK,
we all know that wasnt you, this cat truly needs help.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Wow. I am surprised about this move. It is a full on “accountability” move. I am glad they made this move. Regardless of what happens to McClain down the line and how well he plays somewhere else. This is a straight up “do your job, or else, no more mr. nice guy” type of move. The team needed this. You better believe every player is now on notice.
The question is, whether they care or not. If DA has really lost the team, then it will show this week by how they play. If they come out flat, and acting the way they did in Cincy, then you can bet this team is done. It will be a huge firesale at the end of the season. We should find out this Sunday.
One thing that does worry me though, not that it really matters much by now, is who is going to play MLB? Gaither? Not sure about that… though you couldn’t get much worse than what we had.
I do wonder though, what really happened? A part of me thinks that maybe, just maybe Reggie called in McClain and told him that he would not pay him all that money next year and that he would have to restructure his contract, and McClain said no. So Reggie showed him the door. Just a thought…
Regardless, this is addition by subtraction. He was not working out for us, and now we will be looking at a LB in the draft or FA. Anybody good coming out of college?
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Raiders should not win another game .. to make sure they have a chance at drafting TEO ..
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DA just doesn’t seem to bring any passion, energy or charisma as head coach.
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You mean the guy who just told the team’s starting middle linebacker & top 10 pick two years ago to get the fck gone and never come back?
Yeah, no passion there.
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HAHAHAHA
This is a prime example of how stupid some of the members here are.
The news of the day is that our defensive QB gets canned and some idiot comes on to say that our coach has no fire.
DA is sick of the BS. He’s driving the car and dumping anyone that isnt on board. Al’s brats arent going to go quietly aparently but in the end, they’ll get the message or get left behind.
I love Rock Cartright’s Twitter post.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Do you think guys like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis need coaches to inspre them? How about Pat Willis and Navarro Bowman? Polamalu and Harrison?
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Put those guys in a hopeless losing situation………………oh boy. They’d probably be leading the locker room revolution.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
DA needs to get this team to come out of the Tunnel Prepared to play,
Fired up and play with an edge that has been missing most of the season.
Getting 4 simultaneous AZZ WHIPPINGS should have done that for him,
What gives? Why does this team start each game like they are on Pharmacuticals?
Thought they cleared out Jamarcus’s locker years ago…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
MR = too many weirdos
wow
good night
November 28th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
im not even joking.. Manti Te’o will be gone by the 3rd pick.
Especially if he balls out and has a great game in the National Championship. Can you picture a 4th quarter goaline stand.. with manti leading?
Might even be the number 1 pick overall like Mel Kiper is projecting. What u guys think?? answer
November 28th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Raiders should not win another game .. to make sure they have a chance at drafting TEO ..
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Go try selling that to the players.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Manti looks focused here
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c118.0.403.403/p403×403/396580_10151250744388290_543766093_n.jpg
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Kids for real and is special. Let’s hope McK and Raiders get lucky for once and draft Te’o or Jones!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Wow. I am surprised about this move. It is a full on “accountability” move. I am glad they made this move. Regardless of what happens to McClain down the line and how well he plays somewhere else. This is a straight up “do your job, or else, no more mr. nice guy” type of move. The team needed this. You better believe every player is now on notice.
The question is, whether they care or not. If DA has really lost the team, then it will show this week by how they play. If they come out flat, and acting the way they did in Cincy, then you can bet this team is done. It will be a huge firesale at the end of the season. We should find out this Sunday.
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If they come out flat again, start cutting guys at half time.
Cut a bum a week until the season is over. Lord knows we got plenty of them to make examples of.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Eventually, the players will get the message.
Get on board, or get the F out.
It’s tough lovin’ time. And its about time.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
im not even joking.. Manti Te’o will be gone by the 3rd pick.
Especially if he balls out and has a great game in the National Championship. Can you picture a 4th quarter goaline stand.. with manti leading?
Might even be the number 1 pick overall like Mel Kiper is projecting. What u guys think?? answer
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Top 5 for sure…..not #1 overall though.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Te’O will go top 3 no doubt in my mind.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
MR is a sick dude…needs his meds.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Im not trying to “hate” on Rolando.. but has he ever showed this much emotion that MANTI Te’o is showing here
http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/5/27/4268997/121947-330-0.jpg
let me know if im wrong
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
EMRaiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Wow. I am surprised about this move. It is a full on “accountability” move. I am glad they made this move. Regardless of what happens to McClain down the line and how well he plays somewhere else. This is a straight up “do your job, or else, no more mr. nice guy” type of move. The team needed this. You better believe every player is now on notice.
The question is, whether they care or not. If DA has really lost the team, then it will show this week by how they play. If they come out flat, and acting the way they did in Cincy, then you can bet this team is done. It will be a huge firesale at the end of the season. We should find out this Sunday.
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If they come out flat again, start cutting guys at half time.
Cut a bum a week until the season is over. Lord knows we got plenty of them to make examples of.
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Make the team bring their suitcases with them to the sidelines.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Riff,
Whatever people wanna say about Allen, I never ever want to hear the nonsense he doesn’t care again.
Clearest sign yet that Al is gone happened today.
Inmates aren’t running the asylum anymore.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
If sending Romac to the showers is his way of showing intensity, DA is about 5 months late to the game…besides, he DOESN’T have the ability to kick him off the Team, just the practice field…Reggie knows he needs to get something for Rolando if he can, and that must be the hold up.
DA needs to have this team Ready To Play at 1 pm on Sunday and that hasn’t happened for 6 weeks…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
470.KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Do you think guys like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis need coaches to inspre them? How about Pat Willis and Navarro Bowman? Polamalu and Harrison?
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Put those guys in a hopeless losing situation………………oh boy. They’d probably be leading the locker room revolution.
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Those guys wouldn’t have a hopeless losing situation. I doubt hopeless is even in their respective vocabularies. They wouldn’t lead a locker room revolt, they’d help turn the situation around. They are winners, and demand that others have the same attitude.
Which is why we need some players with that attitude in Oakland.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Im not trying to “hate” on Rolando.. but has he ever showed this much emotion that MANTI Te’o is showing here
http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/5/27/4268997/121947-330-0.jpg
let me know if im wrong
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Te’o = BEAST!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
no one worth a dmn will want to play for this staff…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
DA needs to get this team to come out of the Tunnel Prepared to play,
Fired up and play with an edge that has been missing most of the season.
Getting 4 simultaneous AZZ WHIPPINGS should have done that for him,
What gives? Why does this team start each game like they are on Pharmacuticals?
Thought they cleared out Jamarcus’s locker years ago…
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If they arent already motivated by their paychecks, then they dont deserve em.
The Rolando situation is proof positive that the scholoarships days are over! HALLELUYA!
November 28th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
kc might want te’o…that would svck
November 28th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
no one worth a dmn will want to play for this staff…
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Oh, just like how no coach worth a damn wanted to work for Al Davis?
How did that philosophy work out for us?
I love the idiots like you who are advocating shoddy play and unaccountability on account of the players hurt feelings.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Te’O said in an SI article a few months ago two of his heroes are Mitt Romney and Tim Tebow.
Very, very religious guy (Mormon).
We need that here.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Te’o is having a tremendous senior season despite dealing with personal tragedies. He had eight tackles and two interceptions against Michigan, as well as forcing an interception by hitting the Denard Robinson as he threw. Te’o racked up 11 tackles against Stanford and did reasonably well defending gainst the Cardinal’s receiving tight ends.
Te’o totaled 12 tackles and two passes broken up to go with a fumble return of eight yards versus Michigan State and power runner Le’Veon Bell. Te’o made a lot of tackles in run defense and was superb against the pass in zone coverage. He was snuffing out short passes throughout the game and doing well to tackle receivers quickly after the reception was made.
Te’o has really improved his pass coverage in 2012 and helps his stock as a three-down linebacker. He hasn’t had a bad game all year. The senior has totaled 92 tackles, 5.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, four passes broken up and six interceptions this season.
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This is what stood out to me via walter football below. btw he now has 7 ints on the year
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Te’o has the skill set and experience to start immediately in the NFL. He has the size, speed and tackling technique to be a three-down linebacker. The senior has the athletic ability to function on third down and get deep in the middle of the field.
Te’o has nice blitzing ability and closing speed as a pass-rusher. It is clear that he has the instincts for the position. Plus, Te’o is versatile for the next level; he has the bulk to be an inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense and the speed to play middle linebacker in a 4-3. As long as Te’o stays healthy, he should produce another quality season to be a safe first-rounder in the 2013 NFL Draft.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Eventually, the players will get the message.
Get on board, or get the F out.
It’s tough lovin’ time. And its about time
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No joking, this turn of events has me as excited about DA as I’ve been yet.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
scholarship= bergstrom, adams, hanson, briesel, bartell…,
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
well, well… looks like management is willing to take this team back to D-III talent to get rid of the garbage and completely rebuild this team in a new image.
gonna be a crazy offseason…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
There is no silver bullet to coaching.
You have great coaches who are quiet (Dungy) and quiet coaches who stink (Crennel).
You have fiery coaches who excel (Cowher, Fisher) and you have fiery coaches who crash and burn, sooner or later (Todd Haley, Rex Ryan).
Your either a good coach or a bad coach. One’s style has nothing to do with it.
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Great observations.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Honestly I’d pass on Te’o. And I’m a Notre Dame fan.
I think he’ll be a good player, but not an Urlacher/Ray Lewis type of legendary MLB.
We need pass rushers. Last in the league in sacks. Not likely to find an elite one on the FA scrap heap. Despite the fact Reggie took us into this season without one, teams value those guys and don’t generally let them walk.
Te’o is a safe pick and should be a good player, but we really do need to get an impact pass rusher in here.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
470.KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Do you think guys like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis need coaches to inspre them? How about Pat Willis and Navarro Bowman? Polamalu and Harrison?
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Put those guys in a hopeless losing situation………………oh boy. They’d probably be leading the locker room revolution.
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Those guys wouldn’t have a hopeless losing situation. I doubt hopeless is even in their respective vocabularies. They wouldn’t lead a locker room revolt, they’d help turn the situation around. They are winners, and demand that others have the same attitude.
Which is why we need some players with that attitude in Oakland.
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Exactly.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m not sure many NFL players get riled up by Rah-Rah coaches anymore. This isn’t college. I’ve heard a lot say they think it’s corny and cliché.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
riff go get some coffee for a star…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Eventually, the players will get the message.
Get on board, or get the F out.
It’s tough lovin’ time. And its about time
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No joking, this turn of events has me as excited about DA as I’ve been yet.
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Me too.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
It’s funny, I’m on the side of “build in the trenches first” but I think the two best talents in the drafts are linebackers: Te’o and Jarvis Jones
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Would DA have done Anything if Slomac doesn’t go off in front of the whole team?
Don’t get too excited, this kid is still in the hot seat as an HC, sending McClain off could just be an attempt to save what face he has left with this group…
If he had so much fire, why did he take the “Inadverdant whistle” so easily, HE should have been the one kicked out of the game after such a glaring gaff, especially after the phantom clipping on Briesel…that guy should be following McClain to the dumpster…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I would love to have Te’O on my team, but I don’t think he will be on the board when we pick.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I know its freaking skip bayless but the guy is projecting TEO to have RAY LEWIS like impact on a team . whoever drafts him.
Honestly I want TEO
Jarvis Jones, Demontre Moore, or Star loutei
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Yeah seems DA has heard something loud and clear. He’s playing Reece (out of necessity) playing Criner, activating Pryor. Jaw to Jaw with McClain.
He’s got to show something down the stretch, to show he can handle it going forward. Reggie’s got to make that decision at the end of the year.
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
harbaugh gets pumped on the sideline DA plays with his sharpie…
November 28th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Damontre Moore is a straight animal.
Allen wants a big time pass rusher? He’s got options. Jarvis Jones as a LB, Moore as a DE.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Riff,
Whatever people wanna say about Allen, I never ever want to hear the nonsense he doesn’t care again.
Clearest sign yet that Al is gone happened today.
Inmates aren’t running the asylum anymore.
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We never should have heard complaints about DA’s passion to begin with.
Im not surprised by this move. If you are, you werent paying attention or are just stupid.
The only question is who is next to go, because their are going to be a few more gone before this crowd gets it….
Who is your pick PA?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Damontre MOORE is from DA’s school Texas AM. MOORE looks up and his mentor is VON MILLER
November 28th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Not a fan of Jarvis Jones as that high of pick.
Looks like a safety on the field, and he has some spinal issue thing.
I would rather have the dude from A & M (as I am sure DA would).
November 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
The only question is who is next to go, because their are going to be a few more gone before this crowd gets it….
Who is your pick PA?
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Put me down for Mike Mitchell
November 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Damontre Moore – Is he the kid from A&M?
Current Raiders D-line coach worked with him last season with the Aggies…. familiarity could lead to draft pick…
November 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
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Those guys wouldn’t have a hopeless losing situation. I doubt hopeless is even in their respective vocabularies. They wouldn’t lead a locker room revolt, they’d help turn the situation around. They are winners, and demand that others have the same attitude.
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I wonder if Charles Woodson would agree with that? He would probably know better than any of those other guys, who never had to go through it.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
506.KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Yeah seems DA has heard something loud and clear. He’s playing Reece (out of necessity) playing Criner, activating Pryor. Jaw to Jaw with McClain.
He’s got to show something down the stretch, to show he can handle it going forward. Reggie’s got to make that decision at the end of the year.
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Or maybe he’s an actual grownup who’s had enough of the BS and doesn’t need anyone to tell him that enough is enough.
Anyone ever think of that?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
DA needed to deal with McClain in Camp, before the season ever started…
Sitting him was NEVER going to motivate the slob, he just wants to collect a check.
This shouldn’t have taken so long, DA should be sledding uphill after the last 4 weeks alone…
Losing is one thing, straight up humiliation back to back to back to back is another.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Damontre Moore – Is he the kid from A&M?
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That’d be him.
With Allen coming right out and saying he has no pass rushers to work with, if Moore is on the board when the Raiders picked, I will be stunned if it isn’t him.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
You guys have to remember, DA did not make the decision to waive Rolando on his own. Reggie had to give the blessing to do it. So it could’ve come from Reggie and DA had to comply.
Another thing I wonder is if there’s something behind the scenes we don’t know about. Like if Rolando maybe was doing something off field that Reggie and DA didn’t approve of.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
WEll first MOORE said he would be returning to school.. now he has changed his tune saying’
“HE WOULD LOOK INTO IT” im sure if he think he will be a top 8 pick he will come out.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
It’s funny, I’m on the side of “build in the trenches first” but I think the two best talents in the drafts are linebackers: Te’o and Jarvis Jones
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Im the same way.
But we are so low on talent, that we either need to trade down or draft “best player available”.
If Teo is guaranteed to be that leader on D that we need, then we take him. Even though D-Line help is a way bigger priority right now.
Leadership is our biggest priority. And I think DA knows this. He needs a enforcer out their in the worst way.
If we had a leader, someone would have already beaten Rolando to a pulp in practice Romo-style. Instead, the players had to make the coach get out the whooping stick.
We all saw what happened to Gruden when he lost his leaders. He had Gannon here and he had Sapp, Lynch, and Brooks in TB. Lose your leaders and you lose your locker room.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Watching NFLN Sound FX I see John Harbaugh after the win AT San Diego waving his arms and yelling “How about the Ravens..How about the Ravens” to the Baltimore fans.
Pretty cool. He’s a well respected coach right?
“We don’t care about any of that, i’m just trying to put our players in the best position possible so that they may obtain ameasure of success”.
Knute Rockne? NOPE. DA.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
WEll first MOORE said he would be returning to school.. now he has changed his tune saying’
“HE WOULD LOOK INTO IT” im sure if he think he will be a top 8 pick he will come out.
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He will be. Top 10 minimum. Barring injury of course.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
If sending Romac to the showers is his way of showing intensity, DA is about 5 months late to the game…besides, he DOESN’T have the ability to kick him off the Team, just the practice field…Reggie knows he needs to get something for Rolando if he can, and that must be the hold up.
DA needs to have this team Ready To Play at 1 pm on Sunday and that hasn’t happened for 6 weeks…
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I wouldn’t expect it this week either.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Would DA have done Anything if Slomac doesn’t go off in front of the whole team?
Don’t get too excited, this kid is still in the hot seat as an HC, sending McClain off could just be an attempt to save what face he has left with this group…
If he had so much fire, why did he take the “Inadverdant whistle” so easily, HE should have been the one kicked out of the game after such a glaring gaff, especially after the phantom clipping on Briesel…that guy should be following McClain to the dumpster…
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^This.
Sounds like things may be falling apart on DA and this was an extension of that.
His response to the inadvertent whistle was seriously lacking. You need to go nuclear in that situation to get your point across, hopefully get those clowns to sort it out or at very least give you some MAJOR makeup calls. Instead it felt very much like the Ravens’ fake FG. Dennis Allen basically getting clowned by the rest of the league.
Not sure if the RoMac thing is a good sign or more evidence that this thing is precipitously falling apart on the new regime.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
514.KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
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Those guys wouldn’t have a hopeless losing situation. I doubt hopeless is even in their respective vocabularies. They wouldn’t lead a locker room revolt, they’d help turn the situation around. They are winners, and demand that others have the same attitude.
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I wonder if Charles Woodson would agree with that? He would probably know better than any of those other guys, who never had to go through it.
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Woodson is a great player, but don’t know that I’d say he was the leader of any defense he played for. I was talking about the guys that you see their defense and say, “That’s Ray-Rays’ defense”, or “those guys run that defense”.
Don’t know that you could really say that about CW. Great player, though.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
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Those guys wouldn’t have a hopeless losing situation. I doubt hopeless is even in their respective vocabularies. They wouldn’t lead a locker room revolt, they’d help turn the situation around. They are winners, and demand that others have the same attitude.
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I wonder if Charles Woodson would agree with that? He would probably know better than any of those other guys, who never had to go through it.
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WTF are you talking about. Woodson is not a leader. He’s never led a locker room.
He’s been the best player on a defense before, but “best player” does not equal “team leader”.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
This draft is loaded with WR’s, to where we can get maybe a normally late 1st or 2nd round talent, in the 3rd.
And yes, we still need WR’s. Probably a couple.
Justin Houston out of Tennessee may not fall that far, but I would be on board with that.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
man at the end of the day.. I just want the Raiders to get better. Man i want real players that love the game.
One player i really respect is on the whiners. Dashon Goldson. that guy knows how to hit within the rules ..and is not afraid. He will lay you out over the middle..and tackle. WE need a guy like that at saftey.
If he is a FA we gotta make a play for him. TWO guys that can help the D right away.
MOORE/ GOldson
Teo’ / GOLDSON
November 28th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
scholarship= bergstrom, adams, hanson, briesel, bartell…,
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Holla!
November 28th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Johnny,
Any highlights from the sound clip thing from the game on NFLN?
I am sure none of our guys were miked.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Just Fire Baby
Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU.
Cody’s not going to be a first-round or even second-round pick because of the school he plays for, but, he’s tall (6-foot-4) and has the wheels (4.45) and the hands to make it in the NFL.
Covered him in high school when he played up here in Humboldt County at Del Norte High in Crescent City.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
This draft is loaded with WR’s, to where we can get maybe a normally late 1st or 2nd round talent, in the 3rd.
And yes, we still need WR’s. Probably a couple.
Justin Houston out of Tennessee may not fall that far, but I would be on board with that.
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No more young WRs. We have enough of those.
We absolutely need to get our vet WR in free agency. We have too many other holes to fill that we can easily fill in the draft.
A WR draft pick is too much of a gamble considering our needs.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Riff,
Whatever people wanna say about Allen, I never ever want to hear the nonsense he doesn’t care again.
Clearest sign yet that Al is gone happened today.
Inmates aren’t running the asylum anymore.
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No a band of dipSh!ts are now. Have you paid any attention to the cokslobber that is running this team?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tweets of the Day, Part III:
Christopher Hansen
Shell had major conflict with Jerry Porter. Al Davis did nothing. Allen had a conflict with McClain. McKenzie releases him. #NewEra
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Christopher Hansen
This is the new regime’s “there’s a new sheriff in town” moment. Had to happen.
1 minute ago from TweetDeck
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Just Fire Baby
Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU.
Cody’s not going to be a first-round or even second-round pick because of the school he plays for, but, he’s tall (6-foot-4) and has the wheels (4.45) and the hands to make it in the NFL.
Covered him in high school when he played up here in Humboldt County at Del Norte High in Crescent City.
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I know the area. Where’d u play at?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Raider Riff,
Sorry to get it mixed up, I ‘covered’ him meaning, I’m the sports editor up here for the Eureka paper.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
520.Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
It’s funny, I’m on the side of “build in the trenches first” but I think the two best talents in the drafts are linebackers: Te’o and Jarvis Jones
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Im the same way.
But we are so low on talent, that we either need to trade down or draft “best player available”.
If Teo is guaranteed to be that leader on D that we need, then we take him. Even though D-Line help is a way bigger priority right now.
Leadership is our biggest priority. And I think DA knows this. He needs a enforcer out their in the worst way.
If we had a leader, someone would have already beaten Rolando to a pulp in practice Romo-style. Instead, the players had to make the coach get out the whooping stick.
We all saw what happened to Gruden when he lost his leaders. He had Gannon here and he had Sapp, Lynch, and Brooks in TB. Lose your leaders and you lose your locker room.
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No question. Has to be the priority going forward. I remember Allen mentioning several times during training camp that it’s the role they were trying to get McClain to fill on defense.
Guess he just wasn’t up to the task.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tweets of the Day, Part III:
Christopher Hansen
Shell had major conflict with Jerry Porter. Al Davis did nothing. Allen had a conflict with McClain. McKenzie releases him. #NewEra
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Christopher Hansen
This is the new regime’s “there’s a new sheriff in town” moment. Had to happen.
1 minute ago from TweetDeck
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Jerry Porter produced in this league & was the leader in TD’s during the 2002 year, he also was gone a year after the Shell year…Pansy cuts a POS never was like McClain and you Allen-ites celebrate it. I guess his product on the field is crap so you have revel in something about this pansy.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Not a peep about McClain on NFLN.
If this were any other team they’d be all over this story.
Raiders? Who cares…
November 28th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
The players just thought a lot higher of DA for getting rid of that POS bich. McLain was the main reason the team underachieved,..hes nothing but cancer,..and that tumor finally was removed. Props to DA and Reg.
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Good grief: Norco and I agree on something. Next step is to get rid of that unproductive slug Tommy Kelly. $8.8 million this year, and he has as many sacks as I do.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Weeden cleared to play!
November 28th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Raider Riff,
Sorry to get it mixed up, I ‘covered’ him meaning, I’m the sports editor up here for the Eureka paper.
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Oh now I recognize your name. I used to write for the Times Standard at one time in the sports section. Many years ago, fresh out of high school, I walked in and asked if I could write stories.
I think a guy named Ray was running the sports section if I remember correctly.
I remember we used to have a pick’em betting pool with all the staff. I won it the first 3 weeks of the NFL season and so then they canned it hahahahaha.
I ended up quitting when they wouldnt let me write NFL related stories, the Raiders in particular. I got bored covering high school sports although, doing the girls volleyball games didnt suck.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The SEC Logo@SEC_Logo
Top 5 #SEC Sacks: 1. Jadeveon Clowney 13 2. Damontre Moore 12.5 3. Jarvis Jones 10.5 4. Chris Smith 9.5 5. Sam Montgomery 7
as of nov 27
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last week MOORE was the SACKS LEADER IN SEC and still is with Tackles i believe
November 28th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Johnny,
Any highlights from the sound clip thing from the game on NFLN?
I am sure none of our guys were miked.
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Nope. You guessed correctly.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Raider Riff,
Yes, I remember Ray. Hamil was sports editor for a while.
I got the gig in 2006, if I remember correctly, and my first name is also Ray.
Been writing Raider columns off and on since I started.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Jack, I cant believe you even waste your time on this blog hahahaha.
Are you here for inspiration? Humor? Ideas? or to just get a general pulse of the Raider Nation fan base?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Or maybe he’s an actual grownup who’s had enough of the BS and doesn’t need anyone to tell him that enough is enough.
Anyone ever think of that?
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Whatever, he’s got to show improvement down the stretch.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Damontre Moore:
20 TFL
12.5 sacks
2 passes defensed
8 QB hurries
1 forced fumble
2 blocked kicks
People talk about Reggie trading back…I could see Allen being so hungry for this kid, they actually may trade up if they somehow manage to pull out 6 or 7 wins
November 28th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I WANT WINNERS!!!! (SINGLETARY VOICE)
November 28th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tweets of the Day, Part III:
Christopher Hansen
Shell had major conflict with Jerry Porter. Al Davis did nothing. Allen had a conflict with McClain. McKenzie releases him. #NewEra
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Christopher Hansen
This is the new regime’s “there’s a new sheriff in town” moment. Had to happen.
1 minute ago from TweetDeck
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I don’t know. Color me underwhelmed. Long overdue for RoMac to go. Probably should’ve been cut to save money and make a statement last offseason.
Al did get rid of Moss when he quit. He cut JaMarcus pretty fast for a No. 1 pick.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Raider Riff
I like to hear what Raider fans are saying.
Being a fan myself (I have a Silver & Black wedding band – purchased by my Chiefs fan wife), I like to read what other fans are saying about the team.
Inspiration, humor, what ever. Its fun to read the stuff here.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
So in all reality its up to PRYOR as Al’s last draft pick to prove he is worth a DAYUM. Ya he was a 3rd round pick.
Im rooting for the KID
November 28th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
One thing that stood out from the Sound FX from Cincy game was Marv Lewis yelling “Keep hammering ‘em, Keep hammerin’ ‘em”.
And a lot of laughing on the Cincy sidelines. One exchange had Dalton joking with players how wide open the middle was.
Also, Dalton joking how he could have picked who to throw the td to so he decided one of the guys needed a TD so he threw it to him.
Very similar to the Sound fx from the Balt. game when they were making fun of our ineptitude.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
538.MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tweets of the Day, Part III:
Christopher Hansen
Shell had major conflict with Jerry Porter. Al Davis did nothing. Allen had a conflict with McClain. McKenzie releases him. #NewEra
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Christopher Hansen
This is the new regime’s “there’s a new sheriff in town” moment. Had to happen.
1 minute ago from TweetDeck
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Jerry Porter produced in this league & was the leader in TD’s during the 2002 year, he also was gone a year after the Shell year…Pansy cuts a POS never was like McClain and you Allen-ites celebrate it. I guess his product on the field is crap so you have revel in something about this pansy.
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It’s more than that. It’s about a GM having a coach’s back. It’s about a coach being fed up with players that can’t or won’t execute and actually being able to DO something about it.
It’s about a shift in philosophy in Oakland, and you can bet that the significance of that is not lost on the players.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Raider Riff,
Yes, I remember Ray. Hamil was sports editor for a while.
I got the gig in 2006, if I remember correctly, and my first name is also Ray.
Been writing Raider columns off and on since I started.
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Yes, Ray Hamil was his name. He was very nice to me, after all, I had no formal training in journalism. He could have just showed me the door.
He gave me a trial run to see if I could write. He liked my first article so after that I was on board. I remember being so excited to be actually writing for a paper in the sports section.
This was around 2000 or 2001.
Anyways, I havent been back up that way in a long time. I sure do miss me some Live from NY, Tomo’s, Crabs games, and Don’s Doughnuts.
I remember back in the day when we were allowed to bring our own coolers into the Crabs games. So much fun.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
also very smiliar sound FX to week 17 chargers game last year.
I remember Rivers couldnt believe they were playing some basic Defense. That crap has got to stop. what will it take?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
One thing that stood out from the Sound FX from Cincy game was Marv Lewis yelling “Keep hammering ‘em, Keep hammerin’ ‘em”.
And a lot of laughing on the Cincy sidelines. One exchange had Dalton joking with players how wide open the middle was.
Also, Dalton joking how he could have picked who to throw the td to so he decided one of the guys needed a TD so he threw it to him.
Very similar to the Sound fx from the Balt. game when they were making fun of our ineptitude.
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That’s really not good.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Al did get rid of Moss when he quit. He cut JaMarcus pretty fast for a No. 1 pick.
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Al got rid of Moss because when new coach Kiffin tried calling him, he was greeted with a serenade of four-letter words. Moss forced his way out of Oakland, and all we could get was a fourth-rounder.
As for JaMarcus, the breaking point supposedly came following the 2009 season when Cable and Hackett asked him to slim down from 270 lbs to 255-260 by the first OTA. He showed up weighing 290. One look at him, and even Al said “He’s not even trying, is he?”
November 28th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
538.MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tweets of the Day, Part III:
Christopher Hansen
Shell had major conflict with Jerry Porter. Al Davis did nothing. Allen had a conflict with McClain. McKenzie releases him. #NewEra
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Christopher Hansen
This is the new regime’s “there’s a new sheriff in town” moment. Had to happen.
1 minute ago from TweetDeck
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Jerry Porter produced in this league & was the leader in TD’s during the 2002 year, he also was gone a year after the Shell year…Pansy cuts a POS never was like McClain and you Allen-ites celebrate it. I guess his product on the field is crap so you have revel in something about this pansy.
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It’s more than that. It’s about a GM having a coach’s back. It’s about a coach being fed up with players that can’t or won’t execute and actually being able to DO something about it.
It’s about a shift in philosophy in Oakland, and you can bet that the significance of that is not lost on the players.
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Furthermore,
DA gave Rolando a chance to be his boy. To be his leader and enforcer on this defense.
Rolando not only dismissed the job but has metaphorically spit in the guys face.
Good riddance to this piece of trash. When a new coach comes in and looks for you to be one of “his guys”, that is the ultimate olive branch. McClain is a total POS.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
#553
That pizzez me off. When the fraking bungholes are laughing at you you know you need a new coaching staff and a heart transplant for your players.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
also very smiliar sound FX to week 17 chargers game last year.
I remember Rivers couldnt believe they were playing some basic Defense. That crap has got to stop. what will it take?
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What will it take? Players that can handle a complicated defense.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
The Raiders are inept in practically every facet of the game.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
538.MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tweets of the Day, Part III:
Christopher Hansen
Shell had major conflict with Jerry Porter. Al Davis did nothing. Allen had a conflict with McClain. McKenzie releases him. #NewEra
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Christopher Hansen
This is the new regime’s “there’s a new sheriff in town” moment. Had to happen.
1 minute ago from TweetDeck
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Jerry Porter produced in this league & was the leader in TD’s during the 2002 year, he also was gone a year after the Shell year…Pansy cuts a POS never was like McClain and you Allen-ites celebrate it. I guess his product on the field is crap so you have revel in something about this pansy.
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It’s more than that. It’s about a GM having a coach’s back. It’s about a coach being fed up with players that can’t or won’t execute and actually being able to DO something about it.
It’s about a shift in philosophy in Oakland, and you can bet that the significance of that is not lost on the players.
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Again, not a McClain fan, glad he’s gone…However, nothing Reggie and “my guy” have done is impressive. The players need better coaching period.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
morilla Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m not sure many NFL players get riled up by Rah-Rah coaches anymore. This isn’t college. I’ve heard a lot say they think it’s corny and cliché.
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I don’t know. I see alot of the good teams do that “rah rah” stuff on the sidelines before the game. Ravens come to mind. Steelers, Saints.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
also very smiliar sound FX to week 17 chargers game last year.
I remember Rivers couldnt believe they were playing some basic Defense. That crap has got to stop. what will it take?
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What will it take? Players that can handle a complicated defense.
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Someone on here (I can’t remember who) had a very interesting theory the other day….Al believed heart in soul in the “line up, play your man, beat your man” philosophy so much that that actually explains why so many Raiders defenses have seemed to lack the most basic football smarts in recent years….because they do.
Put Al Davis “play your mean, beat your man” in a complex zone scheme and they’re lost.
Much, much more weeding out to do.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Why not suspend McClain for a few games?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
morilla Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m not sure many NFL players get riled up by Rah-Rah coaches anymore. This isn’t college. I’ve heard a lot say they think it’s corny and cliché.
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I don’t know. I see alot of the good teams do that “rah rah” stuff on the sidelines before the game. Ravens come to mind. Steelers, Saints.
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And what do you know, all those teams have above average player leaders on their roster. Coincidence? Hardly.
DA’s defense kept a Tebow led team in games and got them into the playoffs. If we had half the talent that team had on D we’d be a 8 win team right now.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
LMAO!!!!
Saints Team Bus was egged by Atlanta Airport workers on the Tarmac after boarding for hotel fresh off the plane.
Just saw it on our local news here.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Remember that players LIKE WINNING. It’s probably demoralizing when they see guys like DMAC get castrated in this offense as well.
Getting beat down and humiliated 4 straight weeks doesn’t help.
Like Mike Michell said: “I’m just sick of the losing man”.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Who is going to start at MLB in a few days?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Why not suspend McClain for a few games?
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That might have been the original intention. We wont ever know.
But the Facebook rant sealed his fate. Gotta cut him.
We’re in full rebuild mode now. Nobodies job is safe nor should it be. Get in line or get the F out. The sooner the better.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Why not suspend McClain for a few games?
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We only have five games left. If we suspend him for the league-maximum four, that just keeps him as a distraction. Better to cut the cord NOW and send a message. Betcha nobody else tries to punk out DA on the practice field.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raider O
Jerry Mac and other beat writers have pegged Omar Gaither has a possible replacement.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
LMAO!!!!
Saints Team Bus was egged by Atlanta Airport workers on the Tarmac after boarding for hotel fresh off the plane.
Just saw it on our local news here.
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Who else was at the game in 2002 when the Niners pulled up?
We werent throwing eggs. More like beer bottles. Lots of them.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
It’s more than that. It’s about a GM having a coach’s back. It’s about a coach being fed up with players that can’t or won’t execute and actually being able to DO something about it.
It’s about a shift in philosophy in Oakland, and you can bet that the significance of that is not lost on the players.
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The old business as usual has left the room.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
So has McClain actually been cut or is all of this just speculation?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Who is going to start at MLB in a few days?
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Cork was saying Omar Gaither. I’d wonder about maybe Dave Tollefson (who does have LB experience). In any case, expect to see us playing mostly a big nickel D.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
morilla Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m not sure many NFL players get riled up by Rah-Rah coaches anymore. This isn’t college. I’ve heard a lot say they think it’s corny and cliché.
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I don’t know. I see alot of the good teams do that “rah rah” stuff on the sidelines before the game. Ravens come to mind. Steelers, Saints.
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Yeah, that’s coming from the players though.
I actually hear it a lot down here in SD when people complain about Norv and how he is very stoic and no emotion. That question gets asked a lot to the players. All of them have said that they don’t care for coaches that throw water coolers or scream at halftime. They always say its cheesy.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Dakota Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
So has McClain actually been cut or is all of this just speculation?
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At the very least, its wishful thinking. At best, yeah he got cut.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
BTW, when you say shift in philosophy, does that include a coach who laughs it up with a division rival after getting his ass kicked? Is that part of the new Raiders? Cuz that ain’t the team I grew up with like Arthur Whittington fighting Chiefs coaches or Cable/Hue running up the score on Denver.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Why not suspend McClain for a few games?
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Because the Raiders didn’t want Slowlandos blood on their hands.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Dakota Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
So has McClain actually been cut or is all of this just speculation?
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McClain said he’d been cut on Facebook, and launched into an anti-Raider diatribe. Multiple sources are reporting he’ll be released tomorrow. Most importantly, nobody from the team has denied these reports, other than to say “He’s on the roster right now.” Since the deadline to cut anybody for today has passed, of course he’s still on the roster. Nobody from the team is saying “No, we’re not cutting him.”
November 28th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Morilla Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
morilla Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m not sure many NFL players get riled up by Rah-Rah coaches anymore. This isn’t college. I’ve heard a lot say they think it’s corny and cliché.
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I don’t know. I see alot of the good teams do that “rah rah” stuff on the sidelines before the game. Ravens come to mind. Steelers, Saints.
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Yeah, that’s coming from the players though.
I actually hear it a lot down here in SD when people complain about Norv and how he is very stoic and no emotion. That question gets asked a lot to the players. All of them have said that they don’t care for coaches that throw water coolers or scream at halftime. They always say its cheesy.
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Its always funny when fans think that Norv just forgot how to coach.
SD used to be the most talented team in the NFL. Then the GM started playing money ball and each and every year, they start off with a losing record, but by the end of the year they would be a much better team and make the playoffs.
Hmmm….that, by definition, is good coaching.
But that money ball approach has clearly taken its tolll and SD isnt nearly the talent they once were. And everyone wants to blame the coaching staff.
The fact is, SD has a very cheap owner that wont allow the GM to retain any of his talented players. And despite the GMs faults, he’s actually very good at finding new players but eventually, the money ball thing is going to roll snake eyes on a few draft picks and that is all it takes to have a lost season, which is clearly where they are at now.
People can blame coaches all you want but if you dont have the talent, youre not ever going to be very good. Not every coach can be Bill Parcells nor should any coaches be expected to be that good with so little talent.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Raider( since) 1967
★★★★★★★
Great news CORK
3 hours ago rumors on Twitter became real and McLain’s
Actions finally cought up to hiim. Rome is on Fire and things
Are just falling in its place.
Looking at the NBC sports highlights with sideline volume
Cinci and DALTON and the whole coaching staff were laughing !
They found this RAIDER team so easy and playing to loose, they were amaze that they could score with no resistance.
Amaze how bad we look and how MARVIN SMILE and looked
across
November 28th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
580.MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
BTW, when you say shift in philosophy, does that include a coach who laughs it up with a division rival after getting his ass kicked? Is that part of the new Raiders? Cuz that ain’t the team I grew up with like Arthur Whittington fighting Chiefs coaches or Cable/Hue running up the score on Denver.
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John Fox; “Man, you got your work cut out for you over there, DA.”
Allen, chuckling; “You can say that again.”
November 28th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
I liked Cable actually. He seemed to get the players to play beyond themselves and had alot of energy and passion, but i admit it was kind of embarrassing to have him as coach cuz he was kind of a doofus looking guy with his belly flopping around and media would kind of laughing at him like “Look..he’s so cute…trying so hard to get the Raiders to win games…bouncing around like that….precious. And he is getting the Raiders to play better too..”
“I know, I know…he is adorable.”.
I don’t know. Totally unfair analysis but that’s how I kind of felt at times.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
The pressure washing of the roster continues. These players are junk.
There are about 5 starting capable guys on this team. Maybe 6.
There are NO elite players.
McClain and 95& of defense has to go.
Clean house of the “CHECK CASHERS” that are hanging onto Flimsy NFL careers on the backs of devoted hard working Raider fans.
Not done…Pressure Wash the whole doggone thing!
November 28th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
He is 23 yo. Too bad it didn’t work out.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
The pressure washing of the roster continues. These players are junk.
There are about 5 starting capable guys on this team. Maybe 6.
There are NO elite players.
McClain and 95& of defense has to go.
Clean house of the “CHECK CASHERS” that are hanging onto Flimsy NFL careers on the backs of devoted hard working Raider fans.
Not done…Pressure Wash the whole doggone thing!
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Yeeeee HAAAAAW!
November 28th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
304.nycraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
McLain was just the beginning,..next will be Seymour.
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thanks to reggie when that happens we will take a 5+million cap hit next year that didnt have to happen
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Put the cash in a duffel bag and line it up over the center/guard gap and I bet it would stop the run better than Seymour and McClain.
Actually not a bad idea. The whole offense would be jumping on that bag like a fumble.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
For what it’s worth….
Michael Bush @michaelbush29
Welp didn’t win the #powerball tonight actually only number I got was the powerball number. Looks like I’m heading back to work tomorrow.
Expand
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Speaks volumes to me.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Aight guys, it sounds like the board is dying down. Time for me to go.
TTL.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
The thing about the face book rant is he doesn’t call out da…he calls out the team:can’t wait to being a real team or whatever he said…that is teammates too. Dude is nuts in the head
November 28th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Me, too. Actually enjoyed talking football tonight without all the other nonsense involved.
Have a good night, everybody.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Omar Gaither?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Len…liked the old business leaving the room comment
November 28th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Me, too. Actually enjoyed talking football tonight without all the other nonsense involved.
Have a good night, everybody.
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Great thread. You have a good night, too.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
If DA is smart he’ll start Pryor on Sunday so when we get lambasted for the 5th straight record setting time he can blame it on “playin’ the young guys”.
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He’ll have to look at the tape first, then say “it starts with me,” and don’t forget the promise to the fans “we’re working on getting this thing turned around.” Fire this faggg please Reggie and redeem yourself
November 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
i for one am not upset about dumping romac.
I dont think he was a good fit for 4-3 but to me that is a smaller issue.
His clear lack of respect for human life,(you tube video) was a sign that the kid needs help. help we dont offer.
His comments upon his first media interview with when he hinted the nfl was no big deal was a red flag.
His jogging down field and so on were all reasons he had to go.
maybe this is wake up call for him and he can make good in his next stop.
as of now he is just a struggling player that needs to take accountability, needs to humble himself and improve.
denial isnt helping
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this, unbelievably, was a clear headed and accurate assessment. it’s a Christmas miracle! LOL!
November 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
One thing that stood out from the Sound FX from Cincy game was Marv Lewis yelling “Keep hammering ‘em, Keep hammerin’ ‘em”.
And a lot of laughing on the Cincy sidelines. One exchange had Dalton joking with players how wide open the middle was.
Also, Dalton joking how he could have picked who to throw the td to so he decided one of the guys needed a TD so he threw it to him.
Very similar to the Sound fx from the Balt. game when they were making fun of our ineptitude.
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That’s really not good.
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Its always some clown ass b.s. AFTER THE FACT. Thats why the idiot Whitworth WENT AFTER L.Houston
Loser town with a bunch of loser players that finally “GOT DOWN” against a team that historically put a foot up their ass for decades.
When they advance to an AFC Championship, wake me.
They got no business talking crap or laughing at ANYBODY.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Omar Gaither?
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That’s the word from what i’m hearing.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Who is going to start at MLB in a few days?
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Omar Gaither. I’m just mad they released Vic S’oto, and didnt sign Jason Babin.
they figure to go young next year, i guess.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
463.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I’ll pay the shipping again. Put it right next to JaMarcus.
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It’s a memorial Hall of Shame!!!!
I think I still got the address saved in my e-mails if it’s the same as before.
I’ll spare you the shipping this go round, but you owe us an SEC player worth an ish.
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Deal. Let me know if for some reason you don’t have the address.
Thanks Bud.
Maybe Eric Reid or Ogletree from Georgia. We’ll see as we get closer.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
600..
Same thing happened when we played Baltimore. Harbaugh was laughing his ass. If you need more of an indictment on the coaching staff, I don’t know what to say
November 28th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
So the thing will be they put him on waivers…and nobody will bite on that contract and then…?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
2-14 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
600..
Same thing happened when we played Baltimore. Harbaugh was laughing his ass. If you need more of an indictment on the coaching staff, I don’t know what to say
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They shouldve laid that kicker out the following play. That fight v. Cincinnati was about a week too late. once you light somebody up, the benches clear, then they wont pull it again, because they risk somebody getting hurt.
November 28th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
So the thing will be they put him on waivers…and nobody will bite on that contract and then…?
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He’ll do something stupid in the offseason and nobody will touch him?
November 28th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
So the thing will be they put him on waivers…and nobody will bite on that contract and then…?
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He becomes a UDFA, and we have to eat a small cap hit.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I think alot of us don’t mind so much our record but the manner in which we are getting clowned and punked at every turn.
The ridiculous lopsided beatdown’s, the other teams laughing on the sideline….the Bengals for cripes sake?
Not cool.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
608,
Sounds good to me.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Honestly I’d pass on Te’o. And I’m a Notre Dame fan.
I think he’ll be a good player, but not an Urlacher/Ray Lewis type of legendary MLB.
We need pass rushers. Last in the league in sacks. Not likely to find an elite one on the FA scrap heap. Despite the fact Reggie took us into this season without one, teams value those guys and don’t generally let them walk.
Te’o is a safe pick and should be a good player, but we really do need to get an impact pass rusher in here.
^^^^^^^^^^
Te’o will be better pro than Jones and Moore when all is said and done IMO.
Te’o just seems special!
November 28th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
One last thing for everyone to sleep on, and put into perspective, just how much work this team has to do…..
When was the last time one of our 1st rd picks lived up to expectations?
2004 – Gallery? Didnt work out, for a number of reasons.
2005 – Fabien? Was decent, but not worth the pick
2006 – Huff? Hard to say he sucks when we were running that D scheme for all these years
2007 – Jamarcus? Franchise was a dumpster
2008 – DMC? Cant stay healthy long enough to have a positive impact
2009 – DHB? Works hard but still cant catch
2010 – Rolando? Total bust of his own doing
2011 – Seymore? Weve wasted his talents
2012 – Palmer? We’re wasting his talents
It’s pretty dang hard for a org to stockpile talent with a track record like that. We’ve had nearly a decade of wasted 1st rd picks. Some were the orgs fault, some the players, the reason is NOT the debate. Its just the fact of the matter and the reality of our roster. It should remind us of just how much work their is to do.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Yeah keep dumping players soo there wont be anymore excuses for those who are really responxible for this mess.
Rolando got blamed for every missed tackle you wont be able to blame him after he’s gone…..so who’s your next whipping boy?
November 28th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Terrelle Pryor? Oh, goody.
I like the Raiders chances better with Aaron Pryor, with gloves on!
November 28th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Take Te’o with the 1st pick and then take the best pass rushing OLB/DE on the board in Round 3.
Then in Round 4 take the best NT/DT on the board and then Round 5 take the best RT/Center or CB on the board.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Raider (since 1967)
★★★★★★★
Looking at answser that PRYOR gave the press ,it seems he is not to sure of himself and he is not like the 49rs Qb.
There, at that moment he is not sure of his Persona and shows how sick and disfuctional his team is and how he is going to do his best.In other words don’t expect SUPERMAN to be SUPERMAN but CLARK KENT.He chickens out and says am NO BRADY! “THE TREE IS KNOWN FOR ITS FRUIT “
November 28th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Take Te’o with the 1st pick and then take the best pass rushing OLB/DE on the board in Round 3.
Then in Round 4 take the best NT/DT on the board and then Round 5 take the best RT/Center or CB on the board.
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I cant roll with that.
But we cannot afford to miss on ANOTHER 1st round pick
November 28th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I meant to say I CAN roll with that.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
omoran Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Raider (since 1967)
★★★★★★★
Looking at answser that PRYOR gave the press ,it seems he is not to sure of himself and he is not like the 49rs Qb.
There, at that moment he is not sure of his Persona and shows how sick and disfuctional his team is and how he is going to do his best.In other words don’t expect SUPERMAN to be SUPERMAN but CLARK KENT.He chickens out and says am NO BRADY! “THE TREE IS KNOWN FOR ITS FRUIT “
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Change your name to Oh Moron!
November 28th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Post 600 you better get used to other teams laughing because the raiders are a joke, and under this management they will continue to be a joke. This team has little talent and is coached by a coach who doesn’t know how to coach up talent on top of being controlled by a gm who doesn’t know how to scout talent. The raiders are awful and have done nothing that says they’re going to be getting better anytime soon. They’re a laughing tock and the easy win on the schedule. Enjoy
November 28th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
The Raiders are incompetent in practically every facet of the game, and it’s not Coaching?
November 28th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Sean Porter OLB/DE from Texas A&M would be a good pick by McKenzie in Round 3.
Going with Te’o with that 1st pick is the way to go for McK and the Raiders.
Te’o has the heart of a lion and will never quit like McClain did.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
A BIG phat NO to a LB with any of our high picks.
Seymour is gone and Kelly will be a year OLDER.
We have NO ONE to play RDE.
We need 2 OGs and a LT.
NT in rd 1
DE/OLB in rd 2
OG in rd 3
November 28th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Take Te’o with the 1st pick and then take the best pass rushing OLB/DE on the board in Round 3.
Then in Round 4 take the best NT/DT on the board and then Round 5 take the best RT/Center or CB on the board.
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sounds ok. i would try and trade the 1st and get more picks, and if mcfadden continues to struggle get a 3rd and 4th for him. we need more picks
November 28th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
A BIG phat NO to a LB with any of our high picks.
Seymour is gone and Kelly will be a year OLDER.
We have NO ONE to play RDE.
We need 2 OGs and a LT.
NT in rd 1
DE/OLB in rd 2
OG in rd 3
^^^^^^^^^
We can also sign a FA DE and I think Andre Carter will be brought back next season as well.
This Raider team needs a legit LB corp for once.
Te’o, Burris, Wheeler would be a great foundation at LB.
Nothing wrong with taking a stud MIKE/ILB like Te’o with a top 5 pick.
The kid is for real. I would rather take a great LB ahead of a fat out of shape NT/DT with a top 5 pick thats for sure.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
We need O-Line help in the worst way and there is a guy that we can get in draft that nobody is talking about (right now).
LSU LT Chris Faulk is a franchise anchor (6′6” 323).
He did not play this year because he tore his knee in practice before the home opener vs Washington Huskies. Having miss the entire year he will be three years removed from high school come draft time and could declare. Was projected top 5 pick before the season. As of now is slated to play for LSU next year but could still declare. Many think he will not fall far (ala Willis McGahee) if he opts for draft.
I know someone who knows his family and they kinda need some financial help from what I was told. Dad got some doctor bills.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
2-14 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Take Te’o with the 1st pick and then take the best pass rushing OLB/DE on the board in Round 3.
Then in Round 4 take the best NT/DT on the board and then Round 5 take the best RT/Center or CB on the board.
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sounds ok. i would try and trade the 1st and get more picks, and if mcfadden continues to struggle get a 3rd and 4th for him. we need more picks
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If McK and DA want to truly rebuild….then yes…trading DMC for as many picks as you can get would be the way to go.
I think DMC can be had for a 2nd and 4th….at least.
He would need to restructure his contract though.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
KK It is very hard for team to be that incompetent without the coaches having some degree of responsibilty.
There 53 players almost half brought in by this staff and every facet incompetent by your words yet it’s not coaching……so what is it?
Who’s responsible??? It’s their players!
November 28th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
If our staff is 100% convinced that we can get an impact player with our 1st pick, (at any position) I say take Him.
If not, trade down and stockpile.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
NBA RUMOR: Pau Gasol Could Play With Ricky Rubio In Minnesota
Yesterday in NBA | natsaar | 74 respect
The rumor mill is really starting to turn now.
One possible place that Pau Gasol could land is with the Minnesota Timberwolves via four team trade.
The Los Angeles Lakers would send Pau to Minnesota, and they would get Derrick Williams, J.J. Barea, Jonas Jerebko and former Laker Trevor Ariza from the Washington Wizards.
The Twolves would acquire Kim English from the Detroit Pistons in addition to Gasol.
The Wizards would sign Charlie Villanueva, Nikola Pekovic and Chris Duhon.
The Pistons would get Emeka Okafor.
The big thing to keep in mind with this scenario is that the Lakers are already carrying 14 men on their roster. It is curious that they sent Sacre back down to the D-League on the same day this report came out. They would need to clear out three more spots.
There’s no indication that this would happen immediately, if at all, however, it’s also interesting that the Timberwolves are in Los Angeles play the Clippers today too.
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I could live with this! Lakers get younger and more athletic and some bench firepower.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
I was a Laker fan…When Wilt Chamberlain played for them.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Houdini is a baller. You can sense it in his interviews. This guy wants to play.
Whereas a loser like McLame is very apathetic in his interviews.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Raider (since1967)
★★★★★★★
Now is the time that REGGIE ALLEN and MARK DAVIS have to stand in the sides
And with their dark sunglasses STARE HARD at those players.
Study film 5 weeks back and watch who is doing bad and blowing assignments.
“TAKE THE CLIPBOARD OUT OF THE BUILDING AND
PUT UNDER YOUR ARM ON THE FIELD “
November 28th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Raiders are hot garbage, i hope they move to La and embarass their city. They’re a frickin disgrace, division 3 @$$ football team naw scratch that, NAIA team.lol Havent been to the playoffs in 11 years finally get close and get rid of the horse that brought you nearly there. Smh Retarded @$$ gm, retarded @$$ rocky dennis lookin @$$ owner, p#@ggot @$$ coach switching on the sideline as his team gets bent over every sunday. Shame
November 28th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
with Curry and Mclain gone it’s safe to say we’re not switching to 3-4 anytime soon, I think RM is going to replace Mclain with a veteran 2 down FA.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I think alot of us don’t mind so much our record but the manner in which we are getting clowned and punked at every turn.
The ridiculous lopsided beatdown’s, the other teams laughing on the sideline….the Bengals for cripes sake?
Not cool.
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It’s downright embarrassing. Good coaching and scheme can mask a lot of talent issues. I don’t feel this staff is making use of the talent here, much less maximizing it.
We saw how our O-line and DMAC played last year. Just about unstoppable on the ground with everyone healthy. They killed it with the ZBS.
We saw how our QB can play in a vertical offense. They killed it with the WCO.
Our defense, the side of the ball that is supposed to be our HC’s specialty has gotten worse. Didn’t even know that was possible.
Pathetic. Poor showing all around. Players and lack of talent? Yeah, there’s some of that. But good coaching this is NOT.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I think I am going to cry.
Anyone want a #55 jersey?
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Damn JFB, told you a year ago I wanted first dibs on the white 55 !
Don’t forget our 5 blog cred unit bet either – out of the NFL within 2 years.
Wonder what Slo pulled to earn his walking papers. Have a feeling it was more than just his lousy play, guess we’ll hear more in the coming days.
Anyway, sorry that your Slo-mania days are over. It was entertaining while it lasted.
Well, at least we know Tits won’t tolerate incompetence and insurrection (I’m guessing that had something to do with 55’s dismissal).
The players are all on notice now.
Next up – clear out the obviously incompetent Krapp.
Can’t destroy a decent offense, reduce the ground game to zero, fail to convert 3rd downs, be futile in the red zone and be retained. Can’t have it.
Not if Tits wants to return.
Accountability ?
We’ll see.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Hilarious. People in here say we were lucky to get to 8-8 last year? Did Huey pass out 4 leaf clovers to everyone on the team? Last I checked, 8 wins is 8 wins. I don’t see an asterisk next to our 8 wins. What about Cable, he was lucky to get to 8-8 too, I suppose? Lol. SMH
November 28th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I want to give this GM every benefit of the doubt but at some point we have to hold him responsible for whatever failures or successes he has. Can’t keep expecting the previous GM to take the heat for player he has picked. Out worse Olineman this year has been Brisiel, who brought him here. While Rolando ahd taken basically all the heat for this defense no one realize he’s only on teh field 1/3 of the time.
Our GM neglected to get one of the most important components of any defense, an edge rusher. Our bets corner by far is a safety the previous GM drafted. Just think about that?
Our bets TE’s and WR’s all drafted by the last GM. Most impactful player on offense was drafted by the last GM.
As I said I’ll give Reggie the benefit of the doubt But I need to see some evidence of success at some point in the players he’s bringing in for me to get excited about this next draft and offseason.
I think Reggie knows talent but to be a great GM so much more is needed. He’s hopefully learning because another year like this IMO wont be tolerated.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Take the BEST player available with that first pick. OT, DT, DE, LB, DB, it doesn’t matter. Get the stud first then worry about the rest. An elite player at any position will do a lot to help out this team.
Lets be honest, the only position where we don’t have a need is punter.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
638,
You can’t count the close games…could’ve gone either way, and don’t forget about the Thurs. nite game in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla.
Doesn’t count.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
638,
You can’t count the close games…could’ve gone either way, and don’t forget about the Thurs. nite game in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla.
Doesn’t count.
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I guess better than playing in Cincy? Lol another excuse.. Geez.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Reggie McKenzie must have watched this dudes video cause he called him out. Now this happens WOW!!
http://youtu.be/WBQ0VJvoJ1k <~~~ Watch classic stuff
November 28th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
638,
You can’t count the close games…could’ve gone either way, and don’t forget about the Thurs. nite game in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla.
Doesn’t count.
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I guess better than playing in Cincy? Lol another excuse.. Geez.
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You know i was kidding. Someone actually did say the Palmer thing about “playing in the back yard from his home in LaJolla”.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Raider(sincce1967)
★★★★★★★
ROME IS BURNING AND THEY KNOW IT! ★
ALL OF THEM ARE SO QUICKLY CURING THEMSELVES? ★
THE HEAT IS ON AND SWET RUNS TO THEIR ABCDEFG! ★
THEY KNOW THAT REGGIE IS WATCHING ★
TURN OFF THE LIGHT THE PARTY IS OVER . ★
BRING THE MAGNEFYING GLASS FROM THE DRAWER ★
WHO WANTS TO WALK DA PLANK FIRST HA HAH !
November 28th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
LILALDAVIS Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Reggie McKenzie must have watched this dudes video cause he called him out. Now this happens WOW!!
http://youtu.be/WBQ0VJvoJ1k <~~~ Watch classic stuff
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YOU are a big time fan. I can tell. I watched your piece on youtube.
Keep it up and hang in there.
November 28th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
RO Mc is only 23, he’s nowhere near his prime im telling you, he’s going to get with another team and be excited about playing again and ball out. Not every player is going to be jack Tatum or Lawrence Taylor when they first start out coaches have to develop them, this staff doesn’t seem to know how to do that or else they wouldnt sign and release players so often.its funny how Reggie has so much patience for a lame a$$ coach he picked but no patience for first and second year players like a DVD, bruce campbell, or anybody. I know Campbell couldn’t have been no worse than briesel.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Afghan girl’s beheading: Two arrested in Kunduz province
Afghan police have arrested two men accused of beheading a teenage girl with a knife in northern Kunduz province, officials say.
Prior to the attack, the girl’s father had rejected a marriage proposal for his daughter.
“Our investigation shows those who killed her were people who wanted to marry her,” police told the BBC.
Earlier this month, four policemen were jailed for 16 years for raping a young woman in the same province.
In the latest incident, the girl, who was about 14 years old, was carrying drinking water from a nearby well to her house in Imam Sahib district when she was attacked on Monday.
“People were harassing the family and asking for her hand. When she refused, they did this to her,” a police official told the BBC.
Senior Afghan officials and local tribal elders said the two suspects were close relatives of the girl.
The father had not wanted his daughter to get married because she was “too young to be engaged”, he was quoted as saying by the Pajhwok news agency.
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Horrible. Just like the girl Malala who was shot point blank in the head, but survived, trying to go to school.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Raider( since 1967)
★★★★★★★
We heard you, we lost another season
November 28th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Yeah keep dumping players soo there wont be anymore excuses for those who are really responxible for this mess.
Rolando got blamed for every missed tackle you wont be able to blame him after he’s gone…..so who’s your next whipping boy?
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If he makes tackles, there wont be a next whipping boy. Bottom line, is if he lit up people like Patrick Willis did ON A REGULAR basis, he’d still be there.
“a real team” comment tells me, he hit the wall once he realized he’d be the focal point of the top and surrendered mentally. Mentally weak people shoot guns, miss assignments, etc. There was no Mt. Cody in front and no Donte Hightower on the other side.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Afghan girl’s beheading: Two arrested in Kunduz province
Afghan police have arrested two men accused of beheading a teenage girl with a knife in northern Kunduz province, officials say.
Prior to the attack, the girl’s father had rejected a marriage proposal for his daughter.
“Our investigation shows those who killed her were people who wanted to marry her,” police told the BBC.
Earlier this month, four policemen were jailed for 16 years for raping a young woman in the same province.
In the latest incident, the girl, who was about 14 years old, was carrying drinking water from a nearby well to her house in Imam Sahib district when she was attacked on Monday.
“People were harassing the family and asking for her hand. When she refused, they did this to her,” a police official told the BBC.
Senior Afghan officials and local tribal elders said the two suspects were close relatives of the girl.
The father had not wanted his daughter to get married because she was “too young to be engaged”, he was quoted as saying by the Pajhwok news agency.
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Horrible. Just like the girl Malala who was shot point blank in the head, but survived, trying to go to school.
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AND THIS AFFECTS THE RAIDERS, how?
November 28th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I think alot of us don’t mind so much our record but the manner in which we are getting clowned and punked at every turn.
The ridiculous lopsided beatdown’s, the other teams laughing on the sideline….the Bengals for cripes sake?
Not cool.
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It’s downright embarrassing. Good coaching and scheme can mask a lot of talent issues. I don’t feel this staff is making use of the talent here, much less maximizing it.
We saw how our O-line and DMAC played last year. Just about unstoppable on the ground with everyone healthy. They killed it with the ZBS.
We saw how our QB can play in a vertical offense. They killed it with the WCO.
Our defense, the side of the ball that is supposed to be our HC’s specialty has gotten worse. Didn’t even know that was possible.
Pathetic. Poor showing all around. Players and lack of talent? Yeah, there’s some of that. But good coaching this is NOT.
^^^^^^^^^^
Exacty!
November 28th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Animal welfare: Germany moves to ban bestiality
Germany’s ruling coalition is calling for a ban on bestiality – or the practice of having sex with animals.
The German parliament’s agriculture committee is considering making it an offence not only to hurt an animal but also to force it into unnatural sex. Offenders could face a hefty fine.
A final vote will be held in the Bundestag (lower house) on 14 December.
Germany legalised bestiality (zoophilia) in 1969, except when the animal suffered “significant harm”.
But animal rights groups have campaigned for a change in the law and Hans-Michael Goldmann, the head of the parliamentary committee investigating the new amendment, told the Tageszeitung newspaper that the new legislation was intended to clarify the current legal position.
“With this explicit ban, it will be easier to impose penalties and to improve animal protection.”
A fine of up to 25,000 euros (£20,000) is proposed if someone forces an animal to commit “actions alien to the species”.
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But Michael Kiok, the chairman of the pressure group Zoophile Engagement for Tolerance and Information (Zeta), said he was going to take legal action to fight the proposed changes.
“It is unthinkable that any sexual act with an animal is punished without proof that the animal has come to any harm,” he said, adding that animals are capable of showing what they do, or do not, want to do.
“We see animals as partners and not as a means of gratification. We don’t force them to do anything. Animals are much easier to understand than women,” Mr Kiok claimed.
Bestiality is banned in many European countries, including the Netherlands, France and Switzerland.
The law was changed in the UK in 2003, which reduced the maximum sentence from life imprisonment to two years.
The act however, is permissible in Belgium, Denmark and Sweden, though Stockholm is considering a change in the legislation
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20523950
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November 28th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
DA being allowed to change offensive philosophies after the development of the offense two years prior was just a big MISTAKE and screw up.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
The Mack Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
RO Mc is only 23, he’s nowhere near his prime im telling you, he’s going to get with another team and be excited about playing again and ball out. Not every player is going to be jack Tatum or Lawrence Taylor when they first start out coaches have to develop them, this staff doesn’t seem to know how to do that or else they wouldnt sign and release players so often.its funny how Reggie has so much patience for a lame a$$ coach he picked but no patience for first and second year players like a DVD, bruce campbell, or anybody. I know Campbell couldn’t have been no worse than briesel.
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I think the coaching turnover probably affected how they approached each player…the ones that didnt develop, had the assistants on the hot seat, they benched em, then the preceeding regime would trade them – and they would usually do nothing for their team.
so far the only Raider we released that did anything was Charles Woodson (2009 Def. Player of the Year), Maybe Moss in 2007 for the Pats, right?
Tyler Brayton? Derrick Burgess? Fabian Washington? need i go on. Hey, at least Napoleon Harris is running for Congress. Murphy made a nice catch on a deep pass from Cam Newton.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
The ridiculous coaching turnover has no doubt stunted the development of many Raider players and picks the last 12 years.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Raider(since 1967
★★★★★★★
NOW you are going to hear us!
GO REGGIE SEND THEM HOME!
NOT so fast not so fast .
Hope REGGIE removes BAD DREAM KNAPP and lands him in
KANSAS — DOROTHY IS NOT THERE ANYMORE!
November 28th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I just watched every play from pryor first pre seaosn action agaisnt the cow pies..i saw enough to get excited for what he can bring to the table.
he also showed where he needs to improve, but at least we have something to look forward too.
he made some nice throws, nice reads, and of course some nifty runs.
This kid is going to surprise a lot of people before this season ends
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i did the same thing the other day, plus other highlights from OSU. one thing i noticed is his throwing motion is odd. he almost turns toward the receiver before he throws it. and lots of throws down at the feet. like he’s throwing darts.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
IMO McClain got into it with DA at practice in a big way. DA sent him back to the hotel and McClain panicked thinking he went over the edge and thought for sure he was getting cut.
Then he went on facebook and said what he said…and twitter in a panic and his agent called and asked “what the hell are you doing? Do you realize how much money you are putting at risk? This is not good. You can’t just quit”.
Then McClain deleted his facebook post and is laying low hoping it will all go away at this point.
That’s what i’m guessing.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I just watched every play from pryor first pre seaosn action agaisnt the cow pies..i saw enough to get excited for what he can bring to the table.
he also showed where he needs to improve, but at least we have something to look forward too.
he made some nice throws, nice reads, and of course some nifty runs.
This kid is going to surprise a lot of people before this season ends
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Every play? You just watched every play? didn’t you say the other day you watched every play of RGIII? And you watched every play of Cam?
Just hard to believe you sometimes.
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hey. kell caught on. mistic apparently treats this as a full time job. he has watched every play of pryor, newton, wilson, kaepernick, etc. etc in the pros and in college. he also may have watched their hi skool reels. after all, he has to put together his draft board.
LOL.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Raiders should not win another game .. to make sure they have a chance at drafting TEO ..
^^^^^^^^^^
Yep!
November 28th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
The ridiculous coaching turnover has no doubt stunted the development of many Raider players and picks the last 12 years.
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Exactly! Each coach comes and says this player can’t play for me. The fans assume the player is a bad player. Thinking this staff will get better players.
When all thye’re doing is buying time. Fans are extremely naive I have yet to see one player brought in who’s decidedly better than the player dismissed.
Reggie and DA need to get whatever players they want and win. And it wont be easy based on what I’ve seen so far.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Criner looks like a player though. The guy is catching everything right now.. That looks like a good draft pick.
I bet he will be better the moore will be in 3 yrs
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he’s coming quick now. much quicker than streater.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DA just doesn’t seem to bring any passion, energy or charisma as head coach.
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You mean the guy who just told the team’s starting middle linebacker & top 10 pick two years ago to get the fck gone and never come back?
Yeah, no passion there.
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HAHAHAHA
This is a prime example of how stupid some of the members here are.
The news of the day is that our defensive QB gets canned and some idiot comes on to say that our coach has no fire.
DA is sick of the BS. He’s driving the car and dumping anyone that isnt on board. Al’s brats arent going to go quietly aparently but in the end, they’ll get the message or get left behind.
I love Rock Cartright’s Twitter post.
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Oh wow….DA dumping McClain means he has fire??
Hmm..what about winning football games?
Is losing football games all McClains fault?
hahaha….More like McClain dumped himeself, instead big bad DA dumping him. LOL
November 28th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Priest,
Exactly what kind of talent,free agents or draft picks, are you expecting when you over the cap and have no draft picks?
Let’s be real, reggie was filling gaps with what the raiders could afford. Had to take cap hits for big, bloated contracts to Wimbley and Routt, had to pay Seymour, Kelly and DHB’ obese salaries and probably still have blowback from JaBust.
These “talented” players are gettin put on the road. They will be replaced by more production and less potential.
We get Knapp outta here and get Pryor some time and this will be the best of a bad, but painfully necessay, situation
November 28th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Te’o just seems special!
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So did Aron Maybin, Rey Malaluga, Aaron Curry, Rolondo Mcclain.
Pass on a LB in rd1, either take the best pass rusher available or trade down and draft Barret Jones at the bottom of rd1.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
The Good news is, DA kicked Rolando out, and he couldn’t go running to the GM/Owner for reprieve.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Raiders should not win another game .. to make sure they have a chance at drafting TEO ..
^^^^^^^^^^
Yep!
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I said this when we were 1-4 and the blog gets angry….man Dakota is a d1ck etc etc.
No, I am just pragmatic.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Te’o just seems special!
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So did Aron Maybin, Rey Malaluga, Aaron Curry, Rolondo Mcclain.
Pass on a LB in rd1, either take the best pass rusher available or trade down and draft Barret Jones at the bottom of rd1.
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Booooooo….comparing Te’o to Maybin, Maualuga, and stiff McClain??
I compare Te’o to Seau and Willis more than those fools you mentioned.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
McClain sucked and everyone knew it. This was his bust / or not a bust year. For the past 2 years he’s been being noticed and called out by analysts, coaches and ex-players.
Face it, the bag of marshmallows is a BUST. Good riddance you passive aggressive head case.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
So, what did the NASA nerds find on Mars? Rolando Mcclains motor? What is the big secret?
November 28th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
SnB,you are wasting your time and energy.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
I agree. Trading down should be a priority if it is the right deal.
Otherwise take Te’o in the top 5 and hope the coaching staff doesn’t ruin the kid.
Then take the best pass rushing OLB/DE on the board in Round 3.
Unless they trade DMC for a 2nd and 4th to some team like the Jets?
November 28th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
OLB’s Sean Porter from A&M and Brandon Jenkins from Flor St would be good edge pass rusher picks in Round 3 possibly for the Raiders.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Te’o just seems special!
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So did Aron Maybin, Rey Malaluga, Aaron Curry, Rolondo Mcclain.
Pass on a LB in rd1, either take the best pass rusher available or trade down and draft Barret Jones at the bottom of rd1.
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Booooooo….comparing Te’o to Maybin, Maualuga, and stiff McClain??
I compare Te’o to Seau and Willis more than those fools you mentioned.
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Te’o is no Seau or Willis imo, he is on a good college LB but I dont see him being great in the pros. He plays on ND which is having a fairytale season, ND is overrated and will lose badly to ALA or Georgia Te’o is all hype and thats the last thing we need another splashy pick. Oline is the #1 priority followed closely by pass rush.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Rondo’s assist streak ended tonight….magic says hey you Celtic, how’s my azz taste?
November 28th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Raider( since1967)
★★★★★★★
Hey – Mc LAIN YOU OWE US A REFUND!
TO THOSE PLAYER THAT WERE NO GOOD YOU HAVE
OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND OUR PRAYERS GO TO YOU!
OH,-YOU OWE REGGIE AND MARK DAVIS A REFUND!
WHEN YOU ARE AT HOME PLEASE READ OUR BLOGS SO YOU DON’T GET BORE!
November 28th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Te’o just seems special!
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So did Aron Maybin, Rey Malaluga, Aaron Curry, Rolondo Mcclain.
Pass on a LB in rd1, either take the best pass rusher available or trade down and draft Barret Jones at the bottom of rd1.
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Booooooo….comparing Te’o to Maybin, Maualuga, and stiff McClain??
I compare Te’o to Seau and Willis more than those fools you mentioned.
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Te’o is no Seau or Willis imo, he is on a good college LB but I dont see him being great in the pros. He plays on ND which is having a fairytale season, ND is overrated and will lose badly to ALA or Georgia Te’o is all hype and thats the last thing we need another splashy pick. Oline is the #1 priority followed closely by pass rush.
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Agree to disagree.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Priest,
Exactly what kind of talent,free agents or draft picks, are you expecting when you over the cap and have no draft picks?
Let’s be real, reggie was filling gaps with what the raiders could afford. Had to take cap hits for big, bloated contracts to Wimbley and Routt, had to pay Seymour, Kelly and DHB’ obese salaries and probably still have blowback from JaBust.
These “talented” players are gettin put on the road. They will be replaced by more production and less potential.
We get Knapp outta here and get Pryor some time and this will be the best of a bad, but painfully necessay, situation
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Sure! You sound like a 5 yearold!
November 28th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
This Jerrell Harris kid from BAMA is an interesting signing. He was a starter and had a good game in the national championship against LSU last year.
He was passed over.. but was a starter with Courtney upshaw, Hightower etc. Played with barron etc.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Oline priority? I thought we were running the zbs. No way we select an offensive lineman in round one with this scheme. Remember, you plug in smaller athletic linemen blah blah blah…I don’t like the system, but apparently we are married to it.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
how crazy would it be if this Jerrell harris linebacker from bama took of in this system and was a legit starter… The day Raiders cut McClain.. sign Harris
November 28th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Jerrell harris.. per online writups
Considered a four-star recruit by Rivals.com, Harris was listed as the No. 3 outside linebacker prospect in the country, behind only Nigel Bradham and Arthur Brown.[4] Harris was also considered to be the best run stopper among all linebackers.[5] He chose Alabama over Auburn, Tennessee and Clemson, among others
November 28th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
that was coming out of highschool
November 28th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
OLB’s Sean Porter from A&M and Brandon Jenkins from Flor St would be good edge pass rusher picks in Round 3 possibly for the Raiders.
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I could live with that
November 28th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I heard about Jerrel Harris before , what happened to him?
November 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
So if another team claims McClain , we will be off the hook for remainder off his salary, but not sure if any team would claim him , but i hope they do lol
November 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
#1 priority is protecting our investment and that is CP3, we must build a massive wall in front of him like we did for Gannon. Gannon used to be able to sit back there and read the his stock quotes behind that line, remeber what made us good back then guys a great Oline with a great QB. We have the QB now we must build the line.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I heard about Jerrel Harris before , what happened to him?
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All the run went to this guy named McClain.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Whatever scheme you use you still must pass block, and drafting a versatile center like Barret Jones isnt a bad pick at the end of round 1 assuming we trade down and get a second.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Because you say stupid things, and I get lumped in with you due to our race. You are like a ticking timebomb, waiting to self implode. I don’t believe you went and watched. You state it because you think it helps your madeup story.
Just stop with the lies, and stick to facts.
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u confuse me kell. half the time u defend him. then u say something completely lucid like this.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
In some mock drafts, Barret Jones is projected to go in 2nd or 3rd Rounds
November 28th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
#1 priority is protecting our investment and that is CP3, we must build a massive wall in front of him like we did for Gannon. Gannon used to be able to sit back there and read the his stock quotes behind that line, remeber what made us good back then guys a great Oline with a great QB. We have the QB now we must build the line.
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I believe the last “priority massive wall” draft was Gallery-Grove in 2004.
Pass.
Best Player Avaiiable. if its Keenan Allen from Call take him.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hard to believe someone would sit and watch a preseason game from months ago just to look at a third string qb run around on a Dallas D made up of players who were cut the next day.
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I only watched pryor not the entire game
I wanted to take another look and compare him to what i saw in the detroit game
i saw lots of positives
There is no regular season film so i had no choice but to go back to pre season
why is this a problem for you
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Because you say stupid things, and I get lumped in with you due to our race. You are like a ticking timebomb, waiting to self implode. I don’t believe you went and watched. You state it because you think it helps your madeup story.
Just stop with the lies, and stick to facts.
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somebody has hijacked kk’s handle
he doesnt even speak like this lol
cross posters at it again
yawn
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There you go again. You disagree with someone, and immediately they must be a cross poster.
See what I mean? You’re such a dramaqueen.
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wow. i agree with mistic. this can’t be kell. he’s making too much sense.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
WR or CB should be the last positions taken in the draft, both take forever to live upto their draft statuses
November 28th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Who’sw gonna biuld this massive wall?
Anybody can see what NEEDS to be done. It’s easy as hell to say what Reggie will do and how we will do this and do that……doing it is the real trick!
Stop talking about what these guys will so and how we need this and that. How they didn’t have this and that. Oh what a disadvantage to follow the evil Mr Davis and his evil plots.
You guys are so freaking ignorant it hurts. Players are just players man if you put them in a situation where they can thrive they will if you don’t they wont………it’s really that simple.
Yes! there are some players who are difference makers but not nearly as many as you people want to believe. I can see where we need to upgrade talent that is NOT what I’m talking about. I’m talking about leadership and this staff has none. Get all the players you want if that doesn’t change this situation wont either………….period
November 28th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Whatever scheme you use you still must pass block, and drafting a versatile center like Barret Jones isnt a bad pick at the end of round 1 assuming we trade down and get a second.
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Good plan. they need at least nine picks – add four more by trading down or players.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
#1 priority is protecting our investment and that is [the QB we draft next year or the year after], we must build a massive wall in front of him like we did for Gannon. Gannon used to be able to sit back there and read the his stock quotes behind that line, remeber what made us good back then guys a great Oline with a great QB. We [WILL] have the QB we must build the line [first, so he doesn't get killed when he gets here].
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Fixed
November 28th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
There you go again. You disagree with someone, and immediately they must be a cross poster.
See what I mean? You’re such a dramaqueen.
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LMAO!!! BUSTED!!!
KK AND I DIDNT HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS!! LOL
I CALLED DR.ROB A CROSS POSTER AND HE SAID “YOU DISAGREE AND THEY ARE A CROSS POSTER”
LOL
YOU TOLD ON YOURSELF DR.SLOB!!!
WHAT A MENTAL MIDGET?!?!
YOU WENT TOT HE TROUBLE OF HIJACKING A HANDLE SIMPLY TO ENGAGE ME IN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT ME WATCHING QBS PLAY?!?!?!
SAD LITTLE TROLL GET A LIFE
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wasn’t me kid.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Not a Palmer “hater” but he is not something to build around.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Raider( since 1967)
★★★★★★★
Dudes- If KNAPP walks the Plank this month is
Hooters night – its on us!
November 28th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Before I go, Mistic, can you tell me again how TP is a super stud because DA said he’s showing improvement?
I have to go sweep at the barbershop tomorrow, and need some good conversation.
Holla
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this actually sounds a lot like beech.
November 28th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
I guess my issue is I’ve watched the previous GM biuld great teams. I need to see this GM do it before I’m going to just take some lames word for it………..just do it already stop telling me what he will do let him do it…..period
November 28th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Priest,
NFL GMs live in the real world. Not one of hypotheticals. The cap is a real constraint. Not some wish list. And any cap magic that Reggie could have pulled would have delayed the inevitable and probably not made a measurable difference.
Let me know if any of these “gems” we start releasing over the next few months end up signing for more than they are gettin here. Let me know if they are contributors, let alone starters or elite players.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
DKnight007 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Im not trying to “hate” on Rolando.. but has he ever showed this much emotion that MANTI Te’o is showing here
http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/5/27/4268997/121947-330-0.jpg
let me know if im wrong
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Te’o = BEAST!
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as this board’s resident irish fan, i have been touting teo for awhile. he’s big time.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RaiderSam Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
#1 priority is protecting our investment and that is CP3, we must build a massive wall in front of him like we did for Gannon. Gannon used to be able to sit back there and read the his stock quotes behind that line, remeber what made us good back then guys a great Oline with a great QB. We have the QB now we must build the line.
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I believe the last “priority massive wall” draft was Gallery-Grove in 2004.
Pass.
Best Player Avaiiable. if its Keenan Allen from Call take him.
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The draft is a crapshoot we all know this, but what do you do say I’m not gonna draft this guy because the last guy failed? No.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Yeah, in 1976.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Have the Raiders confirmed the move yet? I hope some team like Carolina picks him up LMAO from waivers
November 28th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
If top draft picks and free agents played to their pay, they would not be getting cut
The NFL is all about production. There no Raiders on this roster that are at, or near top for their position
A team lacking talent aint cutting talented players.
Keep on pressure washing this mess Reggie
November 28th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
I hope Alabama re-signs rolando. They probably will not pay him as much this time around, but ND would then be able to run all over the tide!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RediaR Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Not a Palmer “hater” but he is not something to build around.
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why not? we built around Gannon and he didnt come in with the hype palmer did, Gannon was a journeymen qb and older and we built a great oline around him.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
So Priest thinks teams could always get something out of players, it’s always teams faults? LOL he’s probably blaming the Jamarcus R situation on Raiders?
November 28th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RediaR Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Not a Palmer “hater” but he is not something to build around.
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why not? we built around Gannon and he didnt come in with the hype palmer did, Gannon was a journeymen qb and older and we built a great oline around him.
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TRUE
November 28th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
These are the only QB’s I would consider drafting:
-Collin Klein KState
-Jordan Lynch Northern Illinois
-Tyler Bray Tennessee
-Tyler Wilson Arkansas
All the other qb’s in college are hapless and pathetic compared to these guys. Cream of the crop if you ask me.
-Aaron Murray is another one i’d take a look at, and if Notre Dame hopes to win the BCS title game they’d better bench Everett Goldshon and put i Tommy Riis. Riis is a proven winner and the true hope of the Irish.
Matt Barkley might be the only other qb option in the draft.
These guys are the only qb’s worth a darn hoot in college today.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Yeah keep dumping players soo there wont be anymore excuses for those who are really responxible for this mess.
Rolando got blamed for every missed tackle you wont be able to blame him after he’s gone…..so who’s your next whipping boy?
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yes priest. he got blamed for his missed tackles. pretty simple really. he was idiot. if u support mcclain, then u are too.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
LOL @ 714.. Brilliant dude
November 28th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Afghan girl’s beheading: Two arrested in Kunduz province
Afghan police have arrested two men accused of beheading a teenage girl with a knife in northern Kunduz province, officials say.
Prior to the attack, the girl’s father had rejected a marriage proposal for his daughter.
“Our investigation shows those who killed her were people who wanted to marry her,” police told the BBC.
Earlier this month, four policemen were jailed for 16 years for raping a young woman in the same province.
In the latest incident, the girl, who was about 14 years old, was carrying drinking water from a nearby well to her house in Imam Sahib district when she was attacked on Monday.
“People were harassing the family and asking for her hand. When she refused, they did this to her,” a police official told the BBC.
Senior Afghan officials and local tribal elders said the two suspects were close relatives of the girl.
The father had not wanted his daughter to get married because she was “too young to be engaged”, he was quoted as saying by the Pajhwok news agency.
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Horrible. Just like the girl Malala who was shot point blank in the head, but survived, trying to go to school.
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Good Lord
November 28th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
The Golden Jew Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
These are the only QB’s I would consider drafting:
-Collin Klein KState
-Jordan Lynch Northern Illinois
-Tyler Bray Tennessee
-Tyler Wilson Arkansas
All the other qb’s in college are hapless and pathetic compared to these guys. Cream of the crop if you ask me.
-Aaron Murray is another one i’d take a look at, and if Notre Dame hopes to win the BCS title game they’d better bench Everett Goldshon and put i Tommy Riis. Riis is a proven winner and the true hope of the Irish.
Matt Barkley might be the only other qb option in the draft.
These guys are the only qb’s worth a darn hoot in college today.
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LOL the anti Mistic.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Priest,
NFL GMs live in the real world. Not one of hypotheticals. The cap is a real constraint. Not some wish list. And any cap magic that Reggie could have pulled would have delayed the inevitable and probably not made a measurable difference.
Let me know if any of these “gems” we start releasing over the next few months end up signing for more than they are gettin here. Let me know if they are contributors, let alone starters or elite players.
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You are soo freakin dumb it really bothers me. I hate discussing anything with you because you’re just a damn idiot.
So many players have left here under new coaches and contributed it’s clear you don’t pay much attention. Warren left here and started Philip Buchanan left and started for 5 years. Tyler Brayton started for Carolina. Fabian Wash started for Balt. Kevin Boothe starts for teh NYG’s. along with many other players. Charles Woodson was laughed at in here even Namdi. Even Nap Harris started in Minn for years.
Tell me how many of the losers he’s brought in will be ELITE you freakin retard?
I’m not saying he’s letting go of ELITE player damn fool I’m saying where is teh UPGRADE? I haven’t seen even ONE!
NOw get the hell outta here and borrow a brain.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Who’sw gonna biuld this massive wall?
Anybody can see what NEEDS to be done. It’s easy as hell to say what Reggie will do and how we will do this and do that……doing it is the real trick!
Stop talking about what these guys will so and how we need this and that. How they didn’t have this and that. Oh what a disadvantage to follow the evil Mr Davis and his evil plots.
You guys are so freaking ignorant it hurts. Players are just players man if you put them in a situation where they can thrive they will if you don’t they wont………it’s really that simple.
Yes! there are some players who are difference makers but not nearly as many as you people want to believe. I can see where we need to upgrade talent that is NOT what I’m talking about. I’m talking about leadership and this staff has none. Get all the players you want if that doesn’t change this situation wont either………….period
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sorry, but blaming scheme is lame. every good coach knows he needs players. u can’t win with losers.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Brisiel should not be starting but is a member of the DA/Reggie Mac Scholarship program. Accountability for some free rides for others.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
The Golden Jew Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
These are the only QB’s I would consider drafting:
-Collin Klein KState
-Jordan Lynch Northern Illinois
-Tyler Bray Tennessee
-Tyler Wilson Arkansas
All the other qb’s in college are hapless and pathetic compared to these guys. Cream of the crop if you ask me.
-Aaron Murray is another one i’d take a look at, and if Notre Dame hopes to win the BCS title game they’d better bench Everett Goldshon and put i Tommy Riis. Riis is a proven winner and the true hope of the Irish.
Matt Barkley might be the only other qb option in the draft.
These guys are the only qb’s worth a darn hoot in college today.
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LOL the anti Mistic.
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LOL!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Odd timing that they’d send Rolando packing with 5 games left…
No doubt his play has been bad, but the timing stinks of a diversion to change the talking points of the GM presser from 4 BLOWOUT LOSSES in a row, to 1 troubled players’ dismissal…
It all seems so well timed for the Reggie…
November 28th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
DT42 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Brisiel should not be starting but is a member of the DA/Reggie Mac Scholarship program. Accountability for some free rides for others.
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i was afraid of this too, but today DA acknowledged his struggles (finally!). we are seeing these guys change is needed. out with the old, in with the new!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Odd timing that they’d send Rolando packing with 5 games left…
No doubt his play has been bad, but the timing stinks of a diversion to change the talking points of the GM presser from 4 BLOWOUT LOSSES in a row, to 1 troubled players’ dismissal…
It all seems so well timed for the Reggie…
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possibly, but u can sense DA knows something has to change. he is being asked the same questions over and over. it sounds a lot like he was ripping into mcclain and telling him to get his head out of his azz, and mcclain couldn’t take it. DA told him get the he!! outta here. DA looked kinda pizzed when he spoke about it. i say good. get pizzed. start cleaning house.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
You people are freakin retarded with the moves he’s made……..we have lost 4 straight games by more than 20pts. THat has NEVER happened in the history of this org. I don’t give a flip what his handicap was or is he has FAILED miserably. We’re 3-8 getting blown out every freakin WEEK!!
And you damn dumbells keep talking about what these idiots will do……….while nothin g I’ve seen gives me any confidence in anything they do………period
November 28th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Will Sutton DE ASU, is nice prospect, can rush the passer from DT and DE projected to go rounds 2-3
November 28th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Who f8ckin cares if that ever happened in history before or not, do you want last years staff back?
November 28th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
McClain will be the 27th player to leave since new general manager Reggie McKenzie took over.
yep. it had to be done.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Priest is Right…
It’s hard to look for 1 improvement at any position that he has changed.
Burris is probably his best draft pick, but that wasn’t an unknown entity, while Bergstrom as a 3rd rounder seems a little bit of a reach….
Reggie has been far from golden do far.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Whatever scheme you use you still must pass block, and drafting a versatile center like Barret Jones isnt a bad pick at the end of round 1 assuming we trade down and get a second.
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Not a bad choice.
Trading down might be our only option. And at that point, its “best player available”
Too many holes to fill. Their isnt a unit on this team other than QB and ST (assuming King gets Lechler’s spot) that doesnt need help in a big way.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Team is just trying to get rid of his salary, I mean if some team claims him of waivers, we’re off the hook for his salary
November 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
All these other teams don’t have free reign to do whatever they want they have restricted situations JUST LIKE WE DO.
Their situation may be a of a different nature but restrictions just the same and they are WINNING………we have what everyone in here says is a top notch QB yet we can’t frwaking SCORE in the redzone…….yet you wnat me to believe everything will be OK………..a bunch of SUCKERS!!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Priest,
I am talking about this roster that we have right now.
As for your “list”
Only Woodson was a top talent and the Raiders weren’t happy to see him go.
Boothe is a nice player, too bad we had to play 9er ball with this ZBS.
The rest on your list…1st round draft picks highly paid by Oakland but turned into just average players that might have started for a few yrs.
What’s Buchanon, Washington, Routt, Brayton and Nnamdi up to these days anyway. Shouldn’t they be in their prime?
November 28th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
You people are freakin retarded with the moves he’s made……..we have lost 4 straight games by more than 20pts. THat has NEVER happened in the history of this org. I don’t give a flip what his handicap was or is he has FAILED miserably. We’re 3-8 getting blown out every freakin WEEK!!
And you damn dumbells keep talking about what these idiots will do……….while nothin g I’ve seen gives me any confidence in anything they do………period
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they are sorting thru the players, finding which ones need to go. having the balls to cut mcclain was a great move. shoulda been done earlier but they tried to give him a chance. this team is loaded with sh!t players. out they go!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Briesel isn’t guaranteed any money i believe, they could easily get rid of him next year
November 28th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Real organizations aren’t afraid to cut talented players
November 28th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Cut all the players they want, you guys just don’t get it. It’s easy to cut players and make moves just to cut players and make moves………where are the players to replace them?
Show me the MONEY!!
I can do what they’ve done so far I can get my grandmother to do what he’s DONE………..SHOW ME SOME IMPROVEMENT!!!!
Oh I forgot! they’re handicapped………..LOL
November 28th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Why is something so difficult for some to understand.If McClain was let go,it hasn’t been made official yet,it isn’t due to his ability as a player,it is about insubordination,the inmates no longer run the asylum.And its about time.The fact is he can’t run upstairs and cry to the owner, the HC is in charge.It remains to be seem if Allen and McKenzie will be successful,but this is something that needed to be done.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
And if you can’t see this you are a blind fool.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
IF you want to make something of your team , you can’t be afraid to make tough decisions and it wasn’t like McClain was showing some improvements from game to game that he merited consideration to be brough back and have the whole scheme built to suit his strengths 3-4
November 28th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Team is just trying to get rid of his salary, I mean if some team claims him of waivers, we’re off the hook for his salary
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this is true. someone might bite. however, i think it was forced by mcclain’s behavior. if ur a sh!tty player thet they’re thinking of dumping anyway and u mouth off, u make urself an easy target to be made an example of.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
The Oakland Raiders worked out free-agent LB Dom DeCicco (Bears), TE Brody Eldridge (Bears), LB Jerrell Harris (Patriots) and WR Brad Starks (NCAA) Wednesday, Nov. 28.
-kffl
November 28th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Yeah anyone can say that Lefty12 only a blind fool does it and has no plan. I don’t give a damn as long as he BETTER get me someone better. If he doesn ‘t then I’d as soon as see the same thing happen to his sorry ass.
DA is a coach who’s lost in his own crap McClain is a convenient scapegoat…….period
November 28th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
All these other teams don’t have free reign to do whatever they want they have restricted situations JUST LIKE WE DO.
Their situation may be a of a different nature but restrictions just the same and they are WINNING………we have what everyone in here says is a top notch QB yet we can’t frwaking SCORE in the redzone…….yet you wnat me to believe everything will be OK………..a bunch of SUCKERS!!
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i really never thought of u as dumb. but cmon. we do have a good qb. he moves the ball without a running attack and under constant duress. we don’t score because:
1) we can’t run it in.
2) we lack redzone targets. this where criner can come up big.
this may be ok after all. yes, they are taking their time to correct things. but i don’t think they are the type to act rashly. they are seeing where the problems are.
o-line: he admitted brisiel’s problems
wr: getting criner involved
rb: he said reece has earned the right to get the ball.
run defense: canning mcclain. canning curry.
pass defense: many db’s brought in. keeping huff there.
they’re sifting thru it. rome wasn’t built in a day.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
And if YOU can’t see that you’re a blind fool…
November 28th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Kawann short DT Purdue is one of the top interior pass rusher coming out
November 28th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Yeah anyone can say that Lefty12 only a blind fool does it and has no plan. I don’t give a damn as long as he BETTER get me someone better. If he doesn ‘t then I’d as soon as see the same thing happen to his sorry ass.
DA is a coach who’s lost in his own crap McClain is a convenient scapegoat…….period
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mcclain is no scapegoat. a scapegoat is someone who gets conveniently blamed for a problem so that the real culprits don’t. but mcclain was a one the absolute major problems with this defense. the worst starter on the team. and his attitude is h!t. he even tweeted that mentally he was already gone. that was a long time ago.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
At this point, the Raiders just draft the best player available on THEIR board.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
McClain is just a sh1tty player, his attitude must have had something to do with being cut , look at how he just talked trash about us, heck even RUSSELL, MOSS, HALL AND SAPP waited a while to do that, he did it the same day lol
November 28th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
i can tell u this:
manti teo would change everything, starting with attitude.
another irish player to watch (of many) is stephon tuitt, DE. 6′6″ 305 and runs like a LB. a sophomore. when he comes out, he will be like reggie white. a big huge pass rushing behemoth.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
I’m out night DR. ROB, Priest, the Oracle , lefty, have a good 1
November 28th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
At this point, the Raiders just draft the best player available on THEIR board.
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i agree. we need help everywhere. we need to do what we can to get as many picks as possible and go get talent.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
You guys are just ignorant enough to think this is going to change something.
Lookee lookee they cut McClain think this is going to scare these guys. They know this kid was getting what he got and THEY KNOW WHY better than any of you do.
If they don’t agree with it, DA could lose this lockerroom. he is already damn close to doing it. I think this was a desparate move to get players attention now for his sake it better work because if it doesn’t it could backfire right in his face………….period
November 28th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
later mc20
November 28th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
well how about this: it IS his locker room, and anybody who doesn’t get with it can get the f@ck out!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
The only reason you HATE DA so much is he replaced HJ.You used to talk football and make sense.We didn’t always agree and that was fine.Now your hate has overcome you in such a manner you can’t see straight.Too bad.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
i can’t believe that any good player would be upset about losing mcclain. his effort was horrible. hard to be a player like wheeler and burris and play beside that all the time.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Reggis is a bust.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
i feel like a weight has been lifted off this team. i have been railing against mcclain for a long time. hit the road jackazz!
November 28th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
McClain nevr bought what they fools were selling, neither have many others. They better cut half this team IMO because I can’t see them playing for this staff the rest of this year.
I said after the last game I think this is going to get much worse b4 it gets better. I hate to see that I think I might be right.
I’m starting to literally hate this team and it’s starting right at the top.
November 28th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
I have to admit I’m staring to enjoy Niner games more than I anticipate Raider games. I haven’t felt that way in 40 years. But I can’t see any light in this tunnel I wish I could say different but I’m really starting to hate the Raiders……….period
November 29th, 2012 at 12:00 am
I hate the Raiders since Al died.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Bill Williamson posted late Wednesday that Rolando was advised he will be cut Thursday.The fact that he posted late gives some back to it.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8688668/rolando-mcclain-released-oakland-raiders-according-source
November 29th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
McClain nevr bought what they fools were selling, neither have many others. They better cut half this team IMO because I can’t see them playing for this staff the rest of this year.
I said after the last game I think this is going to get much worse b4 it gets better. I hate to see that I think I might be right.
I’m starting to literally hate this team and it’s starting right at the top.
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yeah right. mcclain wasn’t good cuz he never bought in. how about he sucks?
yeah, it’s pretty obvious u hate the raiders. so why keep coming here?
November 29th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 12:00 am
I hate the Raiders since Al died.
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I cannot blame you, it’s really starting to get to me. This freakin stupidity is just turning me against my all-time favorite sports franchise……….I didn’t think it was possible but I hate watching this team play NOW. I HATE IT!!
November 29th, 2012 at 12:09 am
DMo and DHB’s play has fallen way off. DMC looked horrible you have talented young players getting looked over for BUMS.
Mark Davis is just going to just sit by and allow Reggie and his cronies to gut this team and put some average talent on here to play 500% football for the next 10 years until Mark gives up and sells.
I have no faith at all in Reggie to get this right I wish I did because this crap hurts bad………but I just don’t see it………..period
November 29th, 2012 at 12:12 am
and put some average talent on here to play 500% football for the next 10 years
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That would be a hell of a lot better than the last 10 years!
November 29th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Nite all.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:19 am
757.lefty12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
The only reason you HATE DA so much is he replaced HJ.You used to talk football and make sense.We didn’t always agree and that was fine.Now your hate has overcome you in such a manner you can’t see straight.Too bad.
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Lefty12, Keep trying to psychoanalyse me man. If that was it this would’t be much of a problem. If reggie were bring in players that showed me he’s got a real gift. I know eventually we ould get a coach that is no real biggie. It’s Reggie who bothers me. Hue Jackson would be forgotten if we were winning. Whether you believe that or not is of no conseqence to me.
The way we’re losing is killing me, yeah I do look at Hue’s firing as a huge mistake. But that only started it he followed it up with a terrible hiring and then the HC outdid that with the worse hiring he could have done. I’m extremely frustrated with the resultsand I know why I feel what I feel. YOU can try to minimize it all you want.
To hell with Hue Jackson because Hue jackson never was the Raiders to me, he was just a coach……………period
November 29th, 2012 at 12:22 am
754.Priesttj12 Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
You guys are just ignorant enough to think this is going to change something.
Lookee lookee they cut McClain think this is going to scare these guys. They know this kid was getting what he got and THEY KNOW WHY better than any of you do.
If they don’t agree with it, DA could lose this lockerroom. he is already damn close to doing it. I think this was a desparate move to get players attention now for his sake it better work because if it doesn’t it could backfire right in his face………….period
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Maybe you could tell us all when the last time was that we had even a decent defense.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
We’re 3-8 and our defense still sucks. The only constant is the players. My guess is that if someone wants to go, DA will point to the record and ask that player if he really thinks that it would matter if that player left or not.
If someone wants to go, and not be a part of the solution, let ‘em. It’s not like they’re holding anything together by being here.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 am
It’s EXACTLY the previous 10 years with a guy I have no faith in. With MR Davis I knew he would do whatever he could to change it. I have no such faith in his son nor his son’s hires.I meant to say *UNDER* 500 ball.
I’m getting old and cranky it just doesn’t matter to me anymore i’d rather not care anymore to be honest I had a great time with Mr Davis and it’s over and I’m done……………..period
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 am
767 I agree with you priest the raiders are equivalent to the golden state warriors in my mind right about now, I cheer for them because they’re the home team but doubt they’ll amount to anything with a playoff birth being a championship for them. I love the warriors but know they wont contend for anything meaningful so i have LA as my alternate team I root for when the playoffs hit because I know the warriors wont be there. Its looking like im going to have to find an alternate football team as well now because with Reggie and friends at the helm i see no hope for this team …
November 29th, 2012 at 12:28 am
ET He did McClain a favor if you ask me….
November 29th, 2012 at 12:30 am
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 am
767 I agree with you priest the raiders are equivalent to the golden state warriors in my mind right about now, I cheer for them because they’re the home team but doubt they’ll amount to anything with a playoff birth being a championship for them. I love the warriors but know they wont contend for anything meaningful so i have LA as my alternate team I root for when the playoffs hit because I know the warriors wont be there. Its looking like im going to have to find an alternate football team as well now because with Reggie and friends at the helm i see no hope for this team …
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I hear ya man, I never thought even dreamed I would say that. But here it is!
November 29th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Uh you can go ahead and jump to whiners blog if you want Priest ,nobody would miss you , cuz you’re are all mesmerized by their 1 year turn around and wondering why ReG and DA can’t do the same, I’m sorry some teams have more problems than others , and some fans are dilusional too who freaking get excited over 2 8-8 seasons in which only good team we beat was Houston in all those combined wins lol, and wait it also went down 34-0 in successive weeks while it was in control of its own destiny, we talk about 1-4 start , it easily could have been 0-6 ,we barely beat Chicago team without cutler, we barely beat KC team with Seymour blocking the GW try , lol go ahead just jump on the whiners bandwagon , we could def live without losers like you
November 29th, 2012 at 12:47 am
And Mistic should become Redskins fan, PALMER Will be here next year ,wether you like it or not and that would be managements decision , if you don’t like it write a letter or something to mark, yes we already know his total turnovers and win loss record , you make sure you publish that record minimum of 1,000 times in every post, but sorry little fella , you’re probably MR anyways but even if you’re not your still another individual who’s not fan of this team but just fan of black Qb’s
November 29th, 2012 at 12:48 am
I see the same things in Reg that you see, he fired hue and if it was marks decision he could have vouched for him and tried to make amends between the 2 for the better of the team. He released dvd and put chekwa on the practice bench for bums like francies and phillip adams who have no ceiling, cut pat lee and kept a injured washed up shawntae spencer on the roster,let go of satele and brought in that wack @$$ briesel, let go of 27 players from last year and has not 1 impact player to show for it. Smh on top of bringing in DA and this horrible coaching staff. Hes 0-29 on players right now.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:50 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 12:09 am
DMo and DHB’s play has fallen way off. DMC looked horrible you have talented young players getting looked over for BUMS.
Mark Davis is just going to just sit by and allow Reggie and his cronies to gut this team and put some average talent on here to play 500% football for the next 10 years until Mark gives up and sells.
I have no faith at all in Reggie to get this right I wish I did because this crap hurts bad………but I just don’t see it………..period
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so…………u liked mcclain?
November 29th, 2012 at 12:58 am
bullsh!t.
first of all, hue was canned for two reasons. 1-4 down the stretch and reggie wanted his own guy.
o-line: they made a mistake moving wiz, i agree, but satele sucked. brisiel does suck too. but bergstrom will probably be pretty good.
te: made myers a legit guy. don’t use ausberry enuff.
wr: streater/criner have good potential. no mistakes here.
rb: schmitt not used enuff. discovered reece can play. brought in stewart who might be ok. refused to use jones. brought in goodson, who’s pretty good.
qb: no mistakes here other than they could use pryor in some packages.
d-line: they brought back seymour to be leader but he’s done physically. they thought shaughnessy would rush better. brought in bilukidi and crawford, two prospects. tollefson doesn’t do much.
lb: wheeler and burris were good gets. the wicked witch is dead.
s: went with what they had. turned out not that great.
cb: needed help. got vets. vets got hurt. nothing but also-rans to choose from. bartell/huff/hanson ok but nothing special. but dvd/chekwa were worse.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:59 am
McClain was def not putting much effort and DA just had enough of guys who were going in slow motion , if he wants to change the culture on D , they got to get rid of some players, is it coincidence our O came alive after we let Jamarcus Russell go ?
November 29th, 2012 at 1:03 am
mcclain blew. my bet is the defense plays better now that his stench is gone. players also gonna see they mean business. jobs are on the line. seymour/kelly/shaughnessy/houston/tollefson/carter/branch/giordano/mitchell/bartell/huff/hanson/adams/francies all put on notice.
only sure-fire returners on defense:
bilukidi
crawford
bryant
burris
wheeler
that’s it.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:10 am
There are some other players who don’t give 100% ,like McFadden when players see that their intensity level goes down, guys like Steven Jackson inspire their teammates with how hard he runs, and it gives your team confidence that you can beat good teams, I was watching Rams vs Whiners game Steven Jackson ran all over the whiners ,at one point he needed about 2 yards for a first down and he was engaged with P Willis and another SF player,the other Niners players came over to gang tackle, the guy just refused to go down, and took the whole Whiners team on his back dragged them for 5 yards, Rams freakin sh1t on whiners in that game, that’s the kinda players we need, I would take freakin Justin Gathas over McFadden right now, you guys think team doesn’t see that when he goes down on every first contact ,if one of the highest player is doing that,just imagine what all the other guys are thinking
November 29th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:03 am
mcclain blew. my bet is the defense plays better now that his stench is gone. players also gonna see they mean business. jobs are on the line. seymour/kelly/shaughnessy/houston/tollefson/carter/branch/giordano/mitchell/bartell/huff/hanson/adams/francies all put on notice.
only sure-fire returners on defense:
bilukidi
crawford
bryant
burris
wheeler
that’s it.
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Where’s Houston? You don’t like him? But that’s what I’m talking about DA and REG had enough of these guys ,the are going to cut all the bad attitudes N all the guys who ain’t going hard ,keeping these kinda guys hurt a lot, why do you guys think TO and Chad Ochocinxo and guys like that are unemployed ?? It’s because of that reason
November 29th, 2012 at 1:17 am
Bilikudi and Crawford would most likely be just training camp casualties , haven’t shown much, but they were late rd picks for a reason, but lets hope either 1 or both can show something, we could def use some kinda unexpected players to come outta no where and have a good season
November 29th, 2012 at 1:23 am
i actually like both. i thought in the final preseason game when bilukidi played nearly every snap, that he showed promise. he’s big, string, and athletic. as for crawford, i likes his reel when i looked at it. he plays the edge against the run very well. i’m not sure if he can rush the qb or not. he didn’t do it all that well at penn state.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Brandon Underwood could be our FS next year, the guy showed promise before get injured for the whole year
November 29th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:23 am
i actually like both. i thought in the final preseason game when bilukidi played nearly every snap, that he showed promise. he’s big, string, and athletic. as for crawford, i likes his reel when i looked at it. he plays the edge against the run very well. i’m not sure if he can rush the qb or not. he didn’t do it all that well at penn state.
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Well than both will have to improve their pass rushing skills, cuz I will coaching will put premium on pass rushers in considering which guys to take into 53
November 29th, 2012 at 1:26 am
bilukidi was a late rounder cuz he went to a small school. he could be a surprise. he has tools.
crawford came from a big school but didn’t post any huge stats. but he was part of a great defense and he really plays stout against the run. holds his ground. uses his hands. keeps a good angle. turns players inside.
basically, i think bilukidi could end up being a good starter. crawford may be a 3rd DE or maybe a run-down starter eventually.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:30 am
cork loves bryant. i like him but i don’t think he’s great. just solid. houston flashes at times but really hasn’t had great results. shaughnessy has regressed. can’t see keeping seymour, kelly, tollefson, or carter.
so, we will need serious reinforcements on the d-line. at least one new starting DT to pair with bryant/bilukidi. and at least one pass rushing DE to probably pair with shaughnessy. houston may become a reserve.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:30 am
I don’t know what I want Raiders to do , on one hand I want them to win all 5 games ,on other hand I’m afraid we might miss out on drafting real talent like D Moore DE Texas a&m to help our biggest weakness , and we might regret on that, if we fail to get to QBs again in 2013, he’s the best edge rusher in college right now, there are some good interior guys that can rush the passer as well, I believe we will draft a pass rushing DE in 1st and a pass rushing DT with 3rd or 4th
November 29th, 2012 at 1:34 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:26 am
bilukidi was a late rounder cuz he went to a small school. he could be a surprise. he has tools.
crawford came from a big school but didn’t post any huge stats. but he was part of a great defense and he really plays stout against the run. holds his ground. uses his hands. keeps a good angle. turns players inside.
basically, i think bilukidi could end up being a good starter. crawford may be a 3rd DE or maybe a run-down starter eventually.
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Man I would love to get any kinda production from either of them, but we won’t go into season hoping either of them gives us that pass rushing ability we lack, we will see one big free agent signing along Dline and a DE and DT drafted in draft
November 29th, 2012 at 1:36 am
WoW! just turned back to the page to find out about all of this McClain chit! After the Raids backed up during his arrest in Ala.,they could have thrown him under the bus then and nobody would have blinked. His diminishing play and then he goes out TRASH TALKING the team on social media? Unbelievable ingrate and punk.
And to top it all off a blogger defending him after that! I thought this blog was for people who actually support the team!
November 29th, 2012 at 1:36 am
well, from what i’ve seen, it’s always good to win. make steps forward right now. since the draft is a crapshoot, work with what u have now and get it going. build momentum for next season. but the raiders really need to shed baggage.
mistic is dumb how he thinks palmer will sit for entire games for pryor. if i’m wron, i’m wrong, but i can’t see them doing it unless they have absolutely decided to to dump palmer.
but i do think they need to get more looks at:
bergstrom
ausberry
criner
reece
goodson
bilukidi
crawford
and i think they need to see what dmc looks like when he comes back. reece has shown the holes are there. if dmc can’t get it going, then his time is up here.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:39 am
Houston has been misused since the day he got drafted , he was a above average/good pass rusher from inside with Texas , I don’t know who thought it was a smart idea to try him at DE , he will def be brough back to compete for a spot, and he’s someone players love to play with uou know , cuz he goes all out , and has a motor that never quits that’s why we saw that rumble in the game, you think players care if whitworth would have just came upto McClain and pushed him
November 29th, 2012 at 1:40 am
no. bilukidi and crawford won’t be the answer for the pass rush. bilukidi could offer in the neighborhood of 5 sacks or something if he’s a starter. crawford doesn’t seem to have pass rush skills really. but no one on the current roster apparently does. seymour and kelly used to do a pretty good job inside but have sucked this season. i thought shaughnessy would but the injury seems to have hurt him. houston doesn’t do much there. carter is apparently past his prime and the injuries have hurt him too.
pass rush is a huge spot to look at in both FA and the draft. big priority.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:40 am
Raidertalk Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:36 am
WoW! just turned back to the page to find out about all of this McClain chit! After the Raids backed up during his arrest in Ala.,they could have thrown him under the bus then and nobody would have blinked. His diminishing play and then he goes out TRASH TALKING the team on social media? Unbelievable ingrate and punk.
And to top it all off a blogger defending him after that! I thought this blog was for people who actually support the team!
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i, for one, am very happy to see him gone.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:43 am
i agree about houston. i have always liked his effort but was always puzzled as to why they put him at DE. he’s really built more like a DT. he may be much better as a guy who moves up and down the line. he and shaughnessy figure to come back simply because they’re young and have shown some good ability in the past. but starting positions would seem to be wide open.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:43 am
Sorry for commenting on yesterday’s news but damn McClain, even if the writing was on the wall could have handled it waaayyy better. He could have said “it unfortunate” “I’m looking forward to other opportunities” etc. etc.
Maybe they don’t teach that at Alabama football.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:44 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:36 am
well, from what i’ve seen, it’s always good to win. make steps forward right now. since the draft is a crapshoot, work with what u have now and get it going. build momentum for next season. but the raiders really need to shed baggage.
mistic is dumb how he thinks palmer will sit for entire games for pryor. if i’m wron, i’m wrong, but i can’t see them doing it unless they have absolutely decided to to dump palmer.
but i do think they need to get more looks at:
bergstrom
ausberry
criner
reece
goodson
bilukidi
crawford
and i think they need to see what dmc looks like when he comes back. reece has shown the holes are there. if dmc can’t get it going, then his time is up here.
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You know your right cuz wins def carry over to next season in most cases,players and coaches go out feeling better about themselves and excited about future, which is why I think the way we finished last year def carried over into the season, I mean it would have been one thing to lose games all year but lose games when your just a couple of wins away from playoffs , is confidence shattering , just look at 10 season ,we ended that on high note and it def carried over into 11 with Hue..so it could mean a lot of they end the season on a high note ,it would also tell us a lot about DA
November 29th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Raidertalk Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:43 am
Sorry for commenting on yesterday’s news but damn McClain, even if the writing was on the wall could have handled it waaayyy better. He could have said “it unfortunate” “I’m looking forward to other opportunities” etc. etc.
Maybe they don’t teach that at Alabama football.
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but that’s insight into why he is who he is.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:52 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 1:43 am
i agree about houston. i have always liked his effort but was always puzzled as to why they put him at DE. he’s really built more like a DT. he may be much better as a guy who moves up and down the line. he and shaughnessy figure to come back simply because they’re young and have shown some good ability in the past. but starting positions would seem to be wide open.
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Oh yeah there wouldn’t be any locks on O line next year, Bryant,Houston,Bilikidi,Crawford would all be invited to the training camp to show what they got ,but you can bet there would def be some big FA guy too like C Avril and #1 pick and drafted DT to compete for all positions,that’s what we actually need too,we need competition on Dline , you have to outplay the other guys to win the starting role,bet most guys didn’t care lady year cuz Kelly and Seymour were basically handed starting jobs because of the money they were making, but I don’t think that’s the way to go,you should always have competition ,if a undrafted guy wins over a guy who you signed on a big deal than so be it,start that undrafted guy,move the highest paid guy into his backup
November 29th, 2012 at 1:52 am
yes. we will learn a lot about DA the rest of the season. if the team simply tanks, it will be hard to see any good in him coming back. but if they rally and improve, it will show he’s making progress. as a raiders fan, it’s hard to accept how the season has gone, but when i look at the players, i don’t see a lot of talent in key areas. so, we need to be patient and see how it plays out. the season is only 2/3 done! we still have 5 games. let’s see what happens.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:52 am
Sorry meant D Line^^^***
November 29th, 2012 at 1:54 am
fans become attached to players and continue to think they will work out. but let’s look at it realistically. how many players on this team could we say have played WELL?
palmer
reece
myers
wheeler
burris
not a big list.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:59 am
add to that list some young players who have played well in the past or have at least shown flashes:
veldheer
wiz
moore
dhb
goodson
houston
bryant
shaughnessy
and some very young guys who need to stick around just to see if they work out:
pryor
stewart
criner
streater
bergstrom
nix
bilukidi
crawford
ross
now add it up:
21
November 29th, 2012 at 2:00 am
Palmer is good guy, he’s taking young guys under his wings and putting confidence in them, and leading by example , we need to cut guys like McFadden and Seymour , who hardly even give their 100% on the field and then sit out half the season over some little fake injuries
November 29th, 2012 at 2:00 am
22
November 29th, 2012 at 2:02 am
Freaking guys like Jim Otto play with broken legs , these guys sit out more than half of the year with broken nails
November 29th, 2012 at 2:06 am
oh, ausberry too. so 23.
plus seabass, condo and king.
26
so, room for up to 27 new players.
maybe they keep some guys from this group:
barnes
gordon
leinart
schmitt
dmc
jones
gaither
clayton
burnett
bartell
huff
hanson
branch
mitchell
but some of these guys will be cut too.
and these guys are almost surely gone:
hagan
carliasle
brisiel
smith
parsons
kelly
seymour
carter
tollefson
francies
adams
giordano
November 29th, 2012 at 2:07 am
lechler probably gone for king
November 29th, 2012 at 2:07 am
You’re always going to have some check cashiers who all of a sudden forgot how to play football after getting that big contracted they always wanted and guys on team would hate tha , but it’s always nice to keep that to minimum, it would be one thing if there was only 1 guy , but there are guys all over the team cashing checks starting with guys who should be leading their respective units , Seymour and McFadden ,need to get rid of them one at a time
November 29th, 2012 at 2:10 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if both seabass and lechler are gone for cheap replacements, cuz I think the management would do everything to free up as much cap space as possibld and bring in real game changers on both o and D
November 29th, 2012 at 2:12 am
it seems that this team had to get worse before it could get better. we were fooling ourselves thinking they could be a playoff team. all the garbage has to be cleared out. but the good news is that if we keep the 27 players from the 1st group above plus some from the 2nd group that can’t be immediately upgraded, and we replace half of the 2nd group plus all of the 3rd group, we can get it turned around soon.
getting rid of poor attitudes is the first thing.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:12 am
Robert , we ain’t going to fuk around,we will bring real talent next year,no more of these high risk/reward 1 year injury prone rentals ,or some guys we check out after the season has started like carter,we would be on top of this sh1t
November 29th, 2012 at 2:13 am
yeah. seabass may be a luxury for a team trying to gut out all unnecessary players.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:15 am
i think we will see up to 20 or so new players on the roster next season. probably ten rookies. 6 or 7 depth-type free agents who don’t cost a lot and 3 or 4 key FA additions.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:16 am
Poor attitudes changes teams and can kill franchises , the game is all about attitude week in and week out, you think guys like R Lewis ever relax for a second , their intensity level is always high, which is what the whole team feeds off of, heck R Lewis is showing more intensity on sidelines than Seymour ever shown on field with Raiders
November 29th, 2012 at 2:17 am
When we gonna sign Ray Edwards??? He’s still out there, do we really trust Omar Gaither to man our D??? This Jerrell Harris guy is intriguing…..
November 29th, 2012 at 2:18 am
alright mc20. i’m going to watch a little tv and go to bed.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:18 am
This is why NYG giants have been more successful team over the past 5 years , their dLine is loaded but most of all they ain’t afraid to talk smash against division foes and upcoming opponents , it’s a war for them on the field and off the field ,
November 29th, 2012 at 2:19 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:18 am
alright mc20. i’m going to watch a little tv and go to bed.
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Have a good 1 man ,gnite
November 29th, 2012 at 2:20 am
funny that harris is from alabama.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:21 am
Wonder what the knock is on him???
November 29th, 2012 at 2:21 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:17 am
When we gonna sign Ray Edwards??? He’s still out there, do we really trust Omar Gaither to man our D??? This Jerrell Harris guy is intriguing…..
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I thought he played DE, No ? And yeah I was wondering about this j Harris guy thought he was an intriguing prospect coming outta college, wouldn’t hurt to see what we got in him, low cost guy anyways
November 29th, 2012 at 2:23 am
He was a Parade All American before going to Alabama, he played on that strong Alabama Defense…..but Omar Gaither??? Definitely not liking our chances against Trentin Richardson..
November 29th, 2012 at 2:24 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:21 am
Wonder what the knock is on him???
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I haven’t heard a peep about him from anybody , might have to look for NE blogs tomorrow lol, lets just hope he didn’t like B Belichic lol
November 29th, 2012 at 2:25 am
Wouldn’t hurt to have Ray Edwards rushing the QB, we can’t seem to get any pressure at all.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:25 am
there is no body better than O Gaither available ATM or else they would have brought that guy in for try out , what is it going to cost to sign any street guy, like peanuts??
November 29th, 2012 at 2:27 am
Is their not a better free agent better than Omar Gaither we could scoop up??? I don’t want Trich going ham on us!!, Can’t wait to see what Big Reg is gonna do in the Off-Season!!
November 29th, 2012 at 2:27 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:25 am
Wouldn’t hurt to have Ray Edwards rushing the QB, we can’t seem to get any pressure at all.
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Did he get cut by some team or has he been a FA all year long ?i know he’s kinda old though? So don’t know if he got anything left in the tank
November 29th, 2012 at 2:28 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:27 am
Is their not a better free agent better than Omar Gaither we could scoop up??? I don’t want Trich going ham on us!!, Can’t wait to see what Big Reg is gonna do in the Off-Season!!
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I’m pretty sure they are going through all the trashes and heaps to try to find a gem lol
November 29th, 2012 at 2:29 am
Yea he got cut a few weeks ago, the Falcons let him go….i heard he had a attitude problem, probably wouldn’t want him around here anyways..
November 29th, 2012 at 2:30 am
Offseason should be exciting, now lets hope some one picks up McClain off waiver wire so we wouldn’t have to pay another cent on his contract and we can have some cap flexibility
November 29th, 2012 at 2:30 am
I mean how much worse can he do??? Maybe he’ll be a surprise for us…smh….
November 29th, 2012 at 2:32 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:29 am
Yea he got cut a few weeks ago, the Falcons let him go….i heard he had a attitude problem, probably wouldn’t want him around here anyways..
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Uh we don’t need bad attitude guys towards the end of the year, when we need to do everything we can go to end it on a high note
November 29th, 2012 at 2:32 am
Im so glad McSlondo is outta here, hopefully we can trim the fat off this team and get some people in here that play with some heart and soul! Tired of these mofos playing for game checks!,
November 29th, 2012 at 2:34 am
This D line needs youth all over, unless J peppers or J Allen became available ,I would sign any over 30 guy if I were Reggie , watch NyG would let Osi go cuz he’s 33 and draft his replacement in first round
November 29th, 2012 at 2:35 am
True dat, I really was hoping we’d pick up Alameda Ta’amu DT that the Steelers put on their Practice Squad….im ready to get rid of fat Kelly and old man kneebones Seymour….
November 29th, 2012 at 2:35 am
I wouldn’t ^^^* not I would
November 29th, 2012 at 2:37 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:35 am
True dat, I really was hoping we’d pick up Alameda Ta’amu DT that the Steelers put on their Practice Squad….im ready to get rid of fat Kelly and old man kneebones Seymour….
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No need to worry about a guy who ended up on same teams PS after getting cut lol I mean other teams didn’t even try to sign him to their practice squads
November 29th, 2012 at 2:39 am
Kelly is nothing without Seymour lining up right next to him, and Seymour is Mia since last year, so both are pretty much useless at this point
November 29th, 2012 at 2:40 am
I know a few people wanted him this year before the Steelers drafted him. I think he’d be a great addition to our team honestly..we need hard working football players, I’d rather have a team of no names, people who come to work and actually play cause they love the game.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:42 am
I was really hoping Miami would of let Paul Soali go last off season.
November 29th, 2012 at 2:45 am
Kinda funny how both Goodson and McFadden came rushing back from injuries at the same time Reece was having success? I guess some guys are afraid of losing their jobs lol
November 29th, 2012 at 2:47 am
Another Miami guy is set to become a FA ,Randy Starks ,he can play NT and end positions
November 29th, 2012 at 2:51 am
I get tired of these so called star football players using their injures to get by, I want a team that players are scared to lose their jobs!!
November 29th, 2012 at 2:56 am
can we find a legit safety for once , both branch and Gio have embarrassed themselves, both had chances to change games around TYvon branch in TB game where the ball hit top of his helmet, Gio against Cincy , he could have returned that 1 pass for a TD, these guys sukk really bad , super bad
November 29th, 2012 at 2:59 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 2:51 am
I get tired of these so called star football players using their injures to get by, I want a team that players are scared to lose their jobs!!
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Also you should never pay guys their last contracts , if they are 26-28 and then sign them to a contract where they will play for another contract , these guys have already put in their work and can just only dress up for games and collect checks now a days
November 29th, 2012 at 3:05 am
I would bring in former high picks like Jairus Byrd Buffalo, Laron Landry NyJ and draft 1 pick to compete with tyvon branch for starting jobs at both positions, it’s proven that better competition improves your unit, which is why I guess Tyvon branch and Huff have sucked for so long because they got guys behind them Gio and Mitchel, who would probably be not picked up by any teams for rest of the season ,if we were to cut them tomorrow, you can say the same for Dline back ups and why the Dline S8cks, no freaking backup talent to put fear into guys that if you don’t bring your A game you might lose your job
November 29th, 2012 at 3:07 am
Time for bed, later OklahomaRaider
November 29th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Pryor ready to roll when called upon Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor spoke at length Wednesday about what life is like sitting behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart, how he spends his time and how much progress he has made since training camp. One thing he doesn’t do is look at t… [...]
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 am
Bill Williamson posted late Wednesday that Rolando was advised he will be cut Thursday.The fact that he posted late gives some back to it.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8688668/rolando-mcclain-released-oakland-raiders-according-source
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great news!!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:19 am
RRS, Dakota & RM99 called it from Day 1 … before he was drafted actually
McClain sucks. Charlie Casserly predicted it as well
Any words from JFB, Jhill or Raider O ??
the Tyvon Branch fanclub also went from a million to a dozen from the offseason to now. Only a matter of time before the rest of you guys open your eyes
If I say a player sucks, i’m accused of not being a Raider fan or not watching the games, LOL
If I say a player sucks, it’s because he really sucks. listen to me!!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:20 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Dakota Says:
November 28th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
So has McClain actually been cut or is all of this just speculation?
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McClain said he’d been cut on Facebook, and launched into an anti-Raider diatribe. Multiple sources are reporting he’ll be released tomorrow. Most importantly, nobody from the team has denied these reports, other than to say “He’s on the roster right now.” Since the deadline to cut anybody for today has passed, of course he’s still on the roster. Nobody from the team is saying “No, we’re not cutting him.”
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Duck & Dakota,
I miss John Herrera too !
November 29th, 2012 at 4:32 am
I think we should take a Flier on Reggie Smith, played at OU, hell of a Punt Returner, can play Safety and cornerback, what else do we have to lose??
November 29th, 2012 at 4:42 am
Still waiting for the story.
I bet I was right about my early plunkdiction
Slomo is on the cough syrup. It explains everything about his play and behavior.
Something happened and DA told him to get lost. Jadummy II went home packed his bags and told the world on twitter.
About that time he probably got a call from his agent who explained the facts of life to the syruphead McDummy the second.
Erase twitter and now he is waiting for a phone call telling him he is screwed
November 29th, 2012 at 4:47 am
First McClain body slams Amendola and acts like a total chump. Then he beats up his friend and sticks a gun to his head. He has been involved in two violent incidents in his hometown. Now he gets in a fight with his head coach. Plus, he has done nothing significant on the football field. I can’t believe there are some clowns saying we should keep him.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 am
I want to see what he posted about the Raiders.
Am I the only one leery of the middle linebacker from ND?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:51 am
Plunk, he wrote “I am official no longer an Oakland Raider”. He also said he was glad to get cut so he can go play for a “real team”.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:52 am
Bill Bellacheat is licking his chops this morning and he is on the phone to Marvin Lewis
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 am
I want to see what he posted about the Raiders.
Am I the only one leery of the middle linebacker from ND?
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I am a bit leery, only because of the Raiders history of getting burned with high profile players. At least we know he is a high character guy. There won’t be any off field issues.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 am
I heard that and it does not sound so bad. I thought there would be more stuff he said.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Raiders need someone to claim McClain off waivers to free them from his contract.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 am
I’d love to have Teo as our Starting MLB, he’d inject some much needed energy,heart to our D. He’d b the type of person to hold everyone accountable of their assignments. We need a vocal Leader!!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 am
He bodyslammed Sproles Did he also slam amendola?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 am
If he’s the real deal, Te’o could do for the Raiders what Urlacher did for the Bears.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:56 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 am
He bodyslammed Sproles Did he also slam amendola?
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yeah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1HQr1YWkJM
November 29th, 2012 at 4:58 am
Sounds like McClain has stood up against HC/DC, and thus put in the doghouse pending further evaluation. They might release him, or they might keep him in the doghouse rest of the season and try to trade him, even for a 7th at least to get something back.
Even tho McClain has been a bust, many teams will be keen to claim him from waivers, or some teams will send a late round pick for him. Simply because he’s a first rounder, and there’s latent talent/ability there in him, that some other GM/Coach will feel he can get out of him.
Just like Curry himself busted as a high first rounder but there’s always a team out there.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:00 am
If he shows up big in the Bama Game I will buy in. If Bama beats Georgia.
I think the Georgia bama game is where we may get our pick from. Sabans Oline may expose that badarse DE
November 29th, 2012 at 5:05 am
I would trade back if I could. Get a C or RT and a DE that can rush and a NT or a safety or a ML.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:07 am
RM has bigger problems then Oakland and who will pick him up.
Probaly out of the NFL in two years and it wont be because he cant play on Sunday
November 29th, 2012 at 5:13 am
If someone picks up McClain’s contract, it would be like Reggie getting an extra pick in the draft.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:17 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/83009/mike-sandos-mvp-watch-65
Its about who should be the MVP and his top ten picks. Starts off on Cutler but scroll down.
He has RG3 rated 8 but Luck is not in the top ten.
Myself, I would rate Luck ahead of RG
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Russell Wilson has 11 TD’s and 0 interceptions in Seattle. Mighty impressive for a rookie
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 am
What are Wilson’s stats on the road?
November 29th, 2012 at 5:29 am
What’s also interesting is that Seymour has also been very absent for about a month now. There might be a similar thing happening to Seymour, getting released. Just speculating.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:30 am
I think Seymour will be released after the season is over. Not a fan of Seymour’s play, but maybe his impact is greater than we think. The defense totally collapsed since he hasn’t been playing. Maybe it’s just a coincidence.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:30 am
A tiny bit more info
Oakland Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain sat out of practice Thursday because of an undisclosed team-related issue. And that, he post on his Facebook page, was the final straw.
“Officially no longer an Oakland Raider!!” McClain posted, according to Sporting News correspondent Steve Corkran for the San Jose Mercury News.
McClain later recanted. “Well technically I am. But I’m mentally done,” he posted later. “Just waiting on my papers” and “I’d like to be anywhere besides here.”
Coach Dennis Allen provided no more information out about why he held McClain out of practice Wednesday. Allen told the Associated Press he did not know if McClain would practice Thursday.
McClain was the eighth overall pick in the 2010 draft. He has struggled so far in his career and has had his playing time sharply reduced in recent weeks. He is in his third season out of Alabama.
Official notice of waivers must come before 4 p.m. ET Thursday for McClain to be waived that day.
The Raiders removed McClain from their every-down lineup earlier this season. He now plays in their base package and is replaced by rookie Miles Burris in nickel schemes.
McClain is getting $970,000 in base salary this season, Corkran reported. He would be in line for getting more than $4 million in 2013 and 2014, and more than $2.6 million in 2015.
The Raiders have a replacement if they do dispose of McClain. They signed Omar Gaither on Nov. 14 and have been working him into the defense.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:31 am
coach John Harbaugh had to deal with an unexpected uprising last month.
The moment came, according to Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports, on Halloween morning. Back from a bye-week break after a backbreaking loss to the Texans, Harbaugh told the team that they’d be practicing in full pads. Several veteran players openly challenged their head coach.
“It was practically a mutiny,” a Ravens player told Silver. “It came very close to getting out of control. But the way Coach Harbaugh handled it was amazing. He let people have their say, and he listened, and he explained himself, and pretty soon it was like a big group-therapy session. In the end, a lot of positive things were said. We didn’t practice in pads, but we came out of there stronger as a group.”
Coincidentally (or not), the Ravens haven’t lost since then.
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I would guess that the same kinds of things happen behind closed doors in Alameda. Don’t think Allen is the type of coach who lets people have their say, holds some open group session. But put his foot down.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:33 am
I bet Alex Smith ends up with the Cardinals next year.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 am
RW is 6-8 on the road
I agree that the D fell apart the past 4 games. Must have something to do with Seymour.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 am
They might release him, or they might keep him in the doghouse rest of the season and try to trade him, even for a 7th at least to get something back.
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LOL
We couldn’t get a 7th round pick in 2027 for him.
If you trade for him, you get the contract. Let him clear waivers and sign him, new contract.
Noboy will trade or claim him on waivers.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:35 am
Rockstar,
That’s why your on the staff!!!
Massive whiff on Slo-Mania on my end.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:30 am
I think Seymour will be released after the season is over. Not a fan of Seymour’s play, but maybe his impact is greater than we think. The defense totally collapsed since he hasn’t been playing. Maybe it’s just a coincidence.
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Seymour comes from the 3-4 system traditionally used in New England, where the DL play 1 gap, engaging double-blockers to allow the LBs to make plays.
Seymour hasn’t been a star in Oakland, but he’s been a workhorse in this 1 gap style of play here. The defense has suffered in his absence in this regard, as our LBs have been more exposed by poor DL gap control, and it compounds because MLB especially has been a liability for us all year.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:36 am
In other breaking news, Lindsey Lohan was arrested again last night for assault.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:38 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Rolando talking crap…not good! But hey, say what you want, you still haven’t shown it on the field of play!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:40 am
886.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:36 am
In other breaking news, Lindsey Lohan was arrested again last night for assault.
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So was Eric Forman’s slutty sister from That 70’s Show. Can’t remember her real name, but she was arrested in North Carolina either yesterday or the day before, also for assault. Crazy b*itches.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 am
They might release him, or they might keep him in the doghouse rest of the season and try to trade him, even for a 7th at least to get something back.
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LOL
We couldn’t get a 7th round pick in 2027 for him.
If you trade for him, you get the contract. Let him clear waivers and sign him, new contract.
Noboy will trade or claim him on waivers.
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The report is he’ll be waived on Thursday. The most likely result is he’ll clear waivers, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a 3-4 team that is struggling this year could make a claim for him.
Like I said before, if Curry can attract a trade partner after busting so bad at Seattle, all because he has that latent ability that made him a high 1st-rounder, then it’s possible the Raiders could get a 7th for McClain too IF they held onto him.
Would depend too if any 2013 guaranteed money kicks in after February or not. If so, then he’ll be waived soon.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:41 am
If they had an All NFL Bust Team, the Raiders would have a lot of players on that team.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Like I said before, if Curry can attract a trade partner after busting so bad at Seattle, all because he has that latent ability that made him a high 1st-rounder, then it’s possible the Raiders could get a 7th for McClain too IF they held onto him.
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Hue and Al orchestrated that Curry trade. That’s all that needs to be said.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:44 am
correction #885…meant to say 2-gap. 2-gap system requires the DL to attract double-blockers.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:44 am
880.GG Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:31 am
coach John Harbaugh had to deal with an unexpected uprising last month.
The moment came, according to Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports, on Halloween morning. Back from a bye-week break after a backbreaking loss to the Texans, Harbaugh told the team that they’d be practicing in full pads. Several veteran players openly challenged their head coach.
“It was practically a mutiny,” a Ravens player told Silver. “It came very close to getting out of control. But the way Coach Harbaugh handled it was amazing. He let people have their say, and he listened, and he explained himself, and pretty soon it was like a big group-therapy session. In the end, a lot of positive things were said. We didn’t practice in pads, but we came out of there stronger as a group.”
Coincidentally (or not), the Ravens haven’t lost since then.
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I would guess that the same kinds of things happen behind closed doors in Alameda. Don’t think Allen is the type of coach who lets people have their say, holds some open group session. But put his foot down.
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When you’re in first place and you have guys like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed on your team, you involve them in decisions.
When you have the one of the worst defenses in football and have for a number of years, it’s not a democracy. Get you sh*t straight, then maybe you can have some input.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Rolando will be waived, and MAY get some interest after he clears waivers, but I doubt it this late in the season.
He will have plenty of lookers after the season though. Too young and talented to passed over completely.
But nobody wants that contract, and only a crappy team that has nothing to lose would risk taking on the distraction this season.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 am
#893…Depends tho. It’s been noted this year the players have struggled in Knapp’s offense, the ZBS scheme, and were told to shut up and stick with it, but they kept nagging and eventually DA/Knapp caved in and listened, which is an admittance they erred and had to get instruction from players.
Considering how much worse the defense has been this year, that the players have probably complained too, seeking changes, but were similarly told to shut up, and the coaches have not made any changes like they have the OL scheme. The defense has continued to get worse. While the offense has gotten better.
Maybe Tarver/Allen are even more hard-headed and it’s caused defensive players to speak out more.
Also, I would say Seymour’s resume and repute would give him validity to speak out against Tarver/Allen and should be listened to…IF he spoke out and is in the doghouse for it.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Rolando will be waived, and MAY get some interest after he clears waivers, but I doubt it this late in the season.
He will have plenty of lookers after the season though. Too young and talented to passed over completely.
But nobody wants that contract, and only a crappy team that has nothing to lose would risk taking on the distraction this season.
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Yep, I agree. That’s the most logical chain of events that would happen.
There’s still a small chance the ’sources’ are a little wrong, that McClain stays on the roster, and they’ll look to trade him.
Remember, teams can always renegotiate a contract as part of a trade. With Rolando being so eager to leave, he’ll be eager then to renegotiate a lesser contract with a team interested in him. That’s why we COULD still get a draft pick out of him.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Further on #895…
Forgot to add in that considering how bad Knapp/Allen coached, erring in bringing in a new blocking scheme that regressed everyone, that they arent the sharpest tools in the toolbox. And that they needed instruction from the players further highlights they arent the sharpest tools.
Thus, looking at the way the defense has also regressed everyone, there’s a good chance that Tarver/Allen also arent that sharp either and probably should listen to the players a bit more…that’s IF there’s been dissension on D with the coaches.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:03 am
If Rolando does ge waived, would Jared Gaither, or his teammate from Alabama get promoted up?
November 29th, 2012 at 6:03 am
There’s still a small chance the ’sources’ are a little wrong, that McClain stays on the roster, and they’ll look to trade him.
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I think this new front office is much more cohesive and media friendly, so any leaks that come out, are to be taken at face vaule.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:03 am
If Rolando does ge waived, would Jared Gaither, or his teammate from Alabama get promoted up?
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I think Omar Gaither would start in his place.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:08 am
PFT on Titus Young
Per Birkett, Young purposely lined up in the wrong place on the field “multiple times” during the Lions’ Week Eleven loss to Green Bay. He also “mouthed off” to receivers coach Shawn Jefferson before being benched for the final possession. Apparently upset that he wasn’t getting enough passes thrown his way, Young responded by attempting to sabotage the Lions’ passing offense.
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This guy should have been cut. The Lions might be the new Raiders. They are probably the most undisciplined team in the league.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Slowlando, having been cleared of charges recently, was probably feeling all big and bad again and mouthed off to the staff.
Like when a bull/shlt disturber at schools’ mom comes into talk to the principal to avoid a suspension, then the kid continues to be little prlck.
Go play in traffic McLazy…
November 29th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Also, I will predict that Giants or Ravens (teams interested in drafting McClain at the time) be the team where he ends up—thru a renegotiated contract.
Maybe the delay in waiving him is Reggie calling GMs around the league seeing if anyone might be interested in making a trade next season.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:10 am
My money is on Bill to pick him up. That’s what he has done lately especially with former Raiders.
Cant NE pick him up on waivers, pay out his contract this year, then dump him if he will not renegotiate?
November 29th, 2012 at 6:12 am
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November 29th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Chances are this problem has simmered for some time and Reg already reached out trying a trade. No team wanted him bad enough.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:14 am
If we were to attract Gruden, Mark would have to pony up like this, so it’s very unlikely Gruden comes to Oakland.
Apparently Haslam offered him part ownership of Browns to come and coach for them.
Per PFT
Report: Jon Gruden may meet with Tennessee Volunteers AD soon
Jon Gruden’s denial isn’t ending the speculation that he could become the next head football coach at the University of Tennessee.
Within a couple hours of Gruden saying that he had not been offered an ownership stake in the Cleveland Browns in exchange for coaching Tennessee, Mike Freeman of CBS reported that Gruden may meet with the Tennessee Volunteers’ athletic director later this week.
What Gruden specifically denied was a report that Browns owner Jimmy Haslam, a Tennessee graduate whose brother is the governor of Tennessee, had offered Gruden a piece of the Browns. Gruden didn’t pull a Nick Saban and say “I’m not going to be the coach of Tennessee,” not that anyone believes any coach anymore after Saban infamously lied about taking the Alabama job.
The report about Haslam’s role in the Volunteers’ coaching search is farfetched for a number of reasons, including the fact that the NCAA wouldn’t allow a booster to give a coaching candidate part of his business, and the fact that Haslam is probably too busy considering his own football team’s future to worry about his alma mater’s next coach. But that doesn’t mean there’s no truth to the many reports that the University of Tennessee would like to lure Gruden.
However, if Gruden does leave the Monday Night Football booth to return to the sideline, most indications are that it would be an NFL sideline. Gruden’s name surfacing in the college coaching carousel is likely just an appetizer before the talk of Gruden returning to the NFL heats up.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:17 am
895.GG Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 am
#893…Depends tho. It’s been noted this year the players have struggled in Knapp’s offense, the ZBS scheme, and were told to shut up and stick with it, but they kept nagging and eventually DA/Knapp caved in and listened, which is an admittance they erred and had to get instruction from players.
Considering how much worse the defense has been this year, that the players have probably complained too, seeking changes, but were similarly told to shut up, and the coaches have not made any changes like they have the OL scheme. The defense has continued to get worse. While the offense has gotten better.
Maybe Tarver/Allen are even more hard-headed and it’s caused defensive players to speak out more.
Also, I would say Seymour’s resume and repute would give him validity to speak out against Tarver/Allen and should be listened to…IF he spoke out and is in the doghouse for it.
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Whole lotta speculation and hypotheticals in that post. Is it your opinion that players complained about the ZBS, or do you have an article or an interview saying they did? The only thing I’ve read is that the players said that they needed to keep hammering away at it and eventually they’d get it down. Even McFadden is quoted several times as saying that. From what I’ve read it seems that the staff realized that McFadden was struggling in the system and adopted more power stuff to get at least some sort of ground game going. The fact that the offense has gotten better, as you say, has more to do with the fact that Reece and Stewart are performing better within the scheme than McFadden did. The yards per carry and total rushing yards are proof of that.
As far as Seymour, all I see from you there is maybe they’d listen to him if he wasn’t in the doghouse, which unless you know something the rest of us don’t, he isn’t.
My point was that when you get results you get input. This defense hasn’t played like an NFL defense on a consistent basis for a long time. I’m thinking that, until they start executing the way they shoud, that isn’t going to change a whole lot. Nor should it.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:03 am
If Rolando does ge waived, would Jared Gaither, or his teammate from Alabama get promoted up?
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I think Omar Gaither would start in his place.
Yes, sorry, Omar Gaither…lol
November 29th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Cant NE pick him up on waivers, pay out his contract this year, then dump him if he will not renegotiate?
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If someone picks them up on waivers, I believe they take on the contract.
So they could just dump him at year end, but I think they absorb a cap hit.
I don’t see a playoff team with 4 games to go (he won’t play this weekend obviously) bringing in a distraction like that, but we shall see……
November 29th, 2012 at 6:21 am
McClain would fit in nicely with the Lions.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I can’t believe how much ESPN is talking about Suh kicking Shaub in the groin.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Chances are this problem has simmered for some time and Reg already reached out trying a trade. No team wanted him bad enough.
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Good point. It’s very possible.
Unless this feud with Allen happened just recently vs Saints or Bengals.
I’d say you could be right tho…remembering when McClain got benched against Falcons (?) was probably discipline for contesting the coaches. He came back a couple weeks later, playing as everydown starter again, maybe it calmed down for a bit, then flared up again during all those blow out losses.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:26 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.PERIOD..PRINT THAT..EXPOSED..
November 29th, 2012 at 6:27 am
edward teach Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:17 am
895.GG Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 am
#893…Depends tho. It’s been noted this year the players have struggled in Knapp’s offense, the ZBS scheme, and were told to shut up and stick with it, but they kept nagging and eventually DA/Knapp caved in and listened, which is an admittance they erred and had to get instruction from players.
Considering how much worse the defense has been this year, that the players have probably complained too, seeking changes, but were similarly told to shut up, and the coaches have not made any changes like they have the OL scheme. The defense has continued to get worse. While the offense has gotten better.
Maybe Tarver/Allen are even more hard-headed and it’s caused defensive players to speak out more.
Also, I would say Seymour’s resume and repute would give him validity to speak out against Tarver/Allen and should be listened to…IF he spoke out and is in the doghouse for it.
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Whole lotta speculation and hypotheticals in that post. Is it your opinion that players complained about the ZBS, or do you have an article or an interview saying they did? The only thing I’ve read is that the players said that they needed to keep hammering away at it and eventually they’d get it down. Even McFadden is quoted several times as saying that. From what I’ve read it seems that the staff realized that McFadden was struggling in the system and adopted more power stuff to get at least some sort of ground game going. The fact that the offense has gotten better, as you say, has more to do with the fact that Reece and Stewart are performing better within the scheme than McFadden did. The yards per carry and total rushing yards are proof of that.
As far as Seymour, all I see from you there is maybe they’d listen to him if he wasn’t in the doghouse, which unless you know something the rest of us don’t, he isn’t.
My point was that when you get results you get input. This defense hasn’t played like an NFL defense on a consistent basis for a long time. I’m thinking that, until they start executing the way they shoud, that isn’t going to change a whole lot. Nor should it.
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Wisniewski interview months ago, he painted that picture — the players had been nagging the coaches and eventually they listened, he said it was good they were able to ultimately listen to the players. Then there was the report about McFadden complaining about the ZBS to Mark Davis. Which Mark confirmed in his post-Saints interview. Saying he told him to go speak to the coaches.
Also, look back on all the early interviews with Knapp and Allen, after the first few games, they were very pushy talking about how the ZBS will NOT be altered, it’s full steam ahead with it, and the players will have to just learn it. You can read into those early interviews from Allen/Knapp how inflexible they would’ve been back then.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:27 am
I just read that it happened yesterday, causing Allen to kick him out of practice (sorry guys, seen that on twitter)! If that is true, and Rolando will be a head case, Reggie should get rid of him, unless he can get someone to trade for him in the offseason and just let him rot out there on the sidelines!
November 29th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Off to work, hopefully I will see that Rolando is officially released today.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:36 am
If someone picks them up on waivers, I believe they take on the contract.
So they could just dump him at year end, but I think they absorb a cap hit.
I don’t see a playoff team with 4 games to go (he won’t play this weekend obviously) bringing in a distraction like that, but we shall see……
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I seriously doubt any team will take the cap hit for him. There’s enough tape on him to tell he’s another first round draft bust and reclamation project if available on the cheap. Money for this year is peanuts, but the cap implications are huge. I predict he clears waivers.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:27 am
I just read that it happened yesterday, causing Allen to kick him out of practice (sorry guys, seen that on twitter)! If that is true, and Rolando will be a head case, Reggie should get rid of him, unless he can get someone to trade for him in the offseason and just let him rot out there on the sidelines!
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That’s what Al would do, let him rot for 2+ months and then appease his desire to leave via trade when it suits Al, not when it suits McClain.
However, if Reggie waives him Thursday, that’s also a good method, getting rid of the cancer, not letting it linger rest of the season infecting other players.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Whatever the altercation between Allen and Rolando, according to eyewitnesses reporting on twitter, it wasn’t a big dramatic blowup. Civilized tones and whatnot, but Rolando was shown the door. Real life work issues are so much less dramatic than we imagine them to be.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Aloha Hawaiin dude,..Brien called last night,..hes ok, his phone wasnt,..said he had a blast at your party,…will be there Sunday with us as usual,…he, like me, are glad that POS McLain was fired.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:42 am
That’s what Al would do, let him rot for 2+ months and then appease his desire to leave via trade when it suits Al, not when it suits McClain.
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What would be fitting would be to keep him on sidelines, exposed to the same teammates he called out as not being a “real team”. How can he walk into the facility and face anyone after saying that? I mean even to clean out his locker has to be a tense moment when he sees the guys in the locker room eyeballing him and sneering at him for his comments. Rolando true to form isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. You don’t flame the locker room before you clear out. What a knucklehead!
November 29th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Wisniewski interview months ago, he painted that picture — the players had been nagging the coaches and eventually they listened, he said it was good they were able to ultimately listen to the players. Then there was the report about McFadden complaining about the ZBS to Mark Davis. Which Mark confirmed in his post-Saints interview. Saying he told him to go speak to the coaches.
Also, look back on all the early interviews with Knapp and Allen, after the first few games, they were very pushy talking about how the ZBS will NOT be altered, it’s full steam ahead with it, and the players will have to just learn it. You can read into those early interviews from Allen/Knapp how inflexible they would’ve been back then.
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Hadn’t heard those things, thanks for sharing.
One thing I liked about it; Mark Davis sending McFadden back to the coaches. His dad had a terrible habit of doing just the opposite and it completely undermined any authority the coaches had. Well-documented, as I’m sure you know. The military calls it the chain of command, and it works as long as everyone respects it. Maybe McFadden went to the coaches first, who knows, but good to see that Mark is not cutting the coaches’ legs out from under them. Not to say he won’t consider McFadden’s sentiments when he sits down with McKenzie and Allen at the end of the year, but in my mind he handled that the right way at the time.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:46 am
So how will Rolando’s release work out contract wise? Will they still owe him any guaranteed money?
November 29th, 2012 at 6:48 am
#922…very good post.
#923…happy to help, the links are out there, just im not good at tracking them down thru google. and yeah, mark advising him to speak to coaches is the right way. Al was also GM, so it’s understandable why players talked to him. But that often caused friction between Al/player and the coach, making the coach look kinda powerless to the player.
I’ve got to crash guys. Look forward to reading every post of every article when i catch up!
November 29th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Chain of Command is a well respected manner of running any venture. Especially military. But the commander in chief has to also have the balls to make the overriding decision and not pass the buck to his subordinates. No doubt Al Davis abused his rung on the ladder when he ran the show and should have deffered more often. But CIC’s also need to know when to not delegate authority on important decisions.
I’m sure McFadden voiced his concerns with the ZBS to his coaches and it got to the point where he hit a wall and the issue got stopped dead in its tracks. At that point, it’s well within military structure and COC to go to the main man, Mark Davis. Behind the scenes, I’m sure he had discussed the same concerns with Reggie and Reggie insisted the system was correct. But Mark Davis has the responsibility of judging the effectiveness and it doesn’t have to be heavyhanded to get the ship righted. Part of being a leader is knowing when to act. I’m not sure that Mark Davis has acted in time. You can applaud him all you want for not being his father, but that doesn’t make him an effective leader either.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:53 am
IF THE COACHING STAFF IS AS BAD AS SOME ON HERE CLAIM,MAYBE A PLAYER FINALY WENT TO THE HC AND ASKED “HEY,DO U HAVE A PLAN OR WHAT ?,BECAUSE SO FAR THIS SH$T AINT WORKIN AND WE AINT SEE’N IT”NOT SAY’N THATS WHAT HAPPEND.COULD BE A POSSABILITY THOUGH..
November 29th, 2012 at 6:56 am
927,
I think that’s exactly what happened. The potential start of a mutiny. Coaching Staff needed to win back the lockerrom. And someone had to be made example of to calm that sh$t down. Hence Rolando sent packing.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Yo Guest, I think its cute and all, your analogy…but Mark Davis…look dude, Im connected with the Raiders, know Amy well,..Mark Davis would have lasted about an hour in the military,..and he thinks ZBS is some television network,..so please stop trying to prop Mark up,..Mark hated his dad and hates football. Theres your daily truth.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:00 am
McLame got bad knees to go with his bad attitude.
Two things may have happened – the Reggime and DA were waiting for him to say anything negative (which would not take long) and use it as an opportunity to:
1. Make a statement on who is in charge
2. Show the fans something is happening.
Or
DA got challenged and flustered by McLame – sent him to his room. Then McFlame got all facebook and now nobody knows what to do since he aint been waived yet.
Hoping its the former and by design.
At any rate here is who is on deck for the last games:
Wheeler 5 yr – 6′2 240
Gaither 7 yr – 6′1 235
Burris Rook – 6′2 236
Burnett Rook – 6′4 234
Harris Rook – 6′2 240 (practice squad)
November 29th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Rolando was guaranteed 23million..think weve paid him about 20 mill..20Mil plus paid to a player who never performed yet has the balls to criticize our team.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:02 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Aloha Hawaiin dude,..Brien called last night,..hes ok, his phone wasnt,..said he had a blast at your party,…will be there Sunday with us as usual,…he, like me, are glad that POS McLain was fired.
Glad to hear that! He left early to return a rental. I’m glad his girlfriend didn’t drink, because he, like me and a slew of many others were very impaired that night!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:04 am
I don’t think I was propping Mark Davis up. For the record, I have served the military 15 years and know the structure well. I don’t know Mark to comment on whether he would last in the military. I don’t think that Mark has made a sound business decision hiring the first guy recommended to him to run the show after a 6 hour interview. A wiser man would have done some more careful vetting.
Not saying Reggie’s not the right man for the job either, but the process is telling of Mark Davis’s diligence and determination of turning the franchise into a winner. He seems like an autopilot owner to me.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Thank you for your service.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Yo Hawaiin bro,..he did admit he got so F`d up he dont remember much,…ya he said he had a dez driver so thats cool…I told him youre busy for Browns game but hey man we all gotta hook up for Thursday Night Broncos,…ya heard me TheC?!?!?!?!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 am
you are welcome. I serve those who served now.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Good morning Nation.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:18 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Yo Hawaiin bro,..he did admit he got so F`d up he dont remember much,…ya he said he had a dez driver so thats cool…I told him youre busy for Browns game but hey man we all gotta hook up for Thursday Night Broncos,…ya heard me TheC?!?!?!?!
Yup, for sure!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:18 am
What’s up Niel? How’s things across the Atlantic?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Morning Hwnrdr.
Had nearly a week of rain – the whole uk seems to be flooded and got up today on my first day off and the temperature has been bearly above zero.
Still…….got to laugh!
Yourself?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:22 am
I feel like such a little gossip hound right now…. I wanna know WTF happened with Romac, and I wanna know now. Plus I want to know what they’re gonna do with Pryor. I want answers.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:24 am
“bearly”!!!!???
Sorry make that barely!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:25 am
And if Kelley and Seymour are gone soon, will they elevate Brandon Bair from practice squad and give him a chance? The guy was a beast at Oregon during their National Championship and Rose Bowl run as Interior D-Lineman.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:26 am
theghostronin79….
I doubt “they” want us to know the truth.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Bob,
Are you going to “crush my skull” at the tailgate, like you once told me?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Neil, all is good here in the Bay! I’m happy just to awaken every morning!
Funny how you say that “they” don’t want us to kow…lol! Que the X-Files theme song…the truth is out there!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:31 am
The Raiders on X-Files? Would explain a lot.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:31 am
neilb Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:26 am
theghostronin79….
I doubt “they” want us to know the truth.
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OH I know, hahaha.
I just want some confirmation is all. Is it weird that I feel so excited about it? Like “Holy Crap, they’re actually taking a stand?” We always talk about WHO needs to go and why. I dunno, maybe it gave me a little spark that things will actually change now.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:32 am
When does Reggie have that press interview? Is it Friday?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:33 am
That’s what I heard Neil
November 29th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Bob,
Are you going to “crush my skull” at the tailgate, like you once told me?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The dude owns poodles. Poodles! You got nothing to worry about.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:34 am
McClain was kicked out of practice, but he wasn’t released.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I predict Pryor will be active on Sunday and get a few snaps.
Not buying this “Wildcat” mularkey stuff either. Let him play QB, maybe run a spread, shotgun offense, but not 3 read option plays or anything.
That would be stupid.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Poodles! You got nothing to worry about.
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Well, I got a morkie, and my wife has more clothes for her than most parents do for the 3 year old.
Mindee the Morkie has 3 Raider Outfits, lol!!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Whitworth talking crap about the Raiders. Bengals players talking crap about us being losers?!?
The bengals talking trash about us?!
Eff this staff!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:37 am
LOL
You People are freaks.
I miss my mini pin.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I am pretty stoked to be going to a home game, no matter how crappy we may be. The last home game I went to was the San Diego game Randy Moss got hurt in.
At least the Donkeys are playing for something as well, nothing like sticking it to them if possible.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:40 am
I also gotta wonder…. With a player like Te’o entering the draft, do we go after him? I know it would be smart to trade back and aquire more picks but, when was the last time a MLB was such a Heisman candidate? I ask the question, who’s more important to a defense?….. A Von Miller, or a Ray Lewis?…..I know there won’t be another RAY. That guy only comes once a generation, but I think you get my point. A commander of the defense, a Passionate Leader, an Anchor…..Versus, a quality pass rusher?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:41 am
when was the last time a MLB was such a Heisman candidate?
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Good question.
Andy Katzenmoyer?
Michael Stonebreaker?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Tell you what Vegas if I said it I guess I meant it,…probably said something to me to provoke it,..as Iv said many times, the parking lot there is for two things,..tailgating, and settling differences,…any mother F`r have an issue with me Im real easy to find,..A lot,..every game. Iv met several from this blog there, any one of them can point me out to anyone looking to meet.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Brian Bosworth finished 4th in 1986 apparently.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Andy Katzenmoyer
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He was a beast.
Go Buckeyes!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I guess I should feel flattered that you people remember everything I say and my breed of dog,..Iv never bothered to retain a damn thing any of youve ever said in here. Morning admission.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Both guys on PFT picked the Browns to win this week. You know it’s bad when people are picking you to lose to the Browns at home.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Bob, are there any pics of you on Brien’s facebook page?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I am looking to get in a skull crushing contest, lol.
And me provoke??? Never
November 29th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I like to believe this is Norco Bob:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/316300_279881832033055_540274193_n.jpg
November 29th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I like dogs a lot, and its hard to forget an Internet Wanksta talking about his mini poodles and walking them on the beach.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:50 am
LMAO ABP.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I took that pic,..thats Brien and Sid,…Sids a Hells Angel from San Jose.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:51 am
You guys into pics?…come to my tailgate, bring your cameras.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Sid looks like a homeless angel!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Te’o will likely go to the Chiefs as no.1 overall…unless they are stupid enough to draft Matt Barkley
November 29th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Raiders need someone to claim McClain off waivers to free them from his contract.
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The only thing someone claiming him off waivers would “free” us of is the $250,000 or whatever he’s owed for the remaining 5 games. His salary for next year wasn’t guaranteed, so that goes away for good.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Brien wore his suit and tie that game last year, Browns game,..halftime Al Davis Memorial service. Brien has class,..you biches dont.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Clearly the players do not believe in the current systems being used on offense or defense. This has nothing to do with the McClain situation, just based on the player’s body language and performance on the field.
Normally, that leaves you with two choices;
1. Cut most of the players and start over, or
2. Change at least the coordinators, if not the entire coaching staff.
Neither option is very good. @012 has been a disaster, and it began with the hiring of Greg Knapp and his version of the ZBS. Tarver’s failure has probably been more of a surprise to the players, but the players knew Knapp was Doggschyt the moment the hire was made. Players knew from 2008 that this guy was a loser, and it took all the wind out of their sails from day one.
Bringing back a guy who was a joke his first time around was a mistake that will ultimately cost DA his job, and may even take Reggie down with them if they stubbornly refuse to make a change this offseason. You can cut as many players as you want, but everyone in the NFL knows Knapp doesn’t work as an OC, so you will never restore that faith in the staff by just going out and getting new players.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:55 am
unless they are stupid enough to draft Matt Barkley
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Barkley looks to be getting the Jimmy Clausen treatment and go in the 20-30 range.
Kiper said he needs to have a good pro day to be a sure fire first round pick after his arm injury.
No value, whatsoever taking him #1 overall, or anywhere close to that.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:55 am
If you want what is best for this team you better hope the Browns beat us this weekend, and that we lose out for the remainder of the season.
Force a change in the coaching staff and get the best draft position possible to help rebuild this roster.
That is our only hope.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:56 am
unless they are stupid enough to draft Matt Barkley
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Barkley looks to be getting the Jimmy Clausen treatment and go in the 20-30 range.
Kiper said he needs to have a good pro day to be a sure fire first round pick after his arm injury.
No value, whatsoever taking him #1 overall, or anywhere close to that.
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More likely go after Geno Smith I’d think…..
November 29th, 2012 at 7:56 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Brien wore his suit and tie that game last year, Browns game,..halftime Al Davis Memorial service. Brien has class,..you biches dont.
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He’s trashed before Al’s memorial service. That is real classy.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I think the Chiefs are going to be stuck with the #1 pick and forced to take Geno Smith.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:56 am
unless they are stupid enough to draft Matt Barkley
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Barkley looks to be getting the Jimmy Clausen treatment and go in the 20-30 range.
Kiper said he needs to have a good pro day to be a sure fire first round pick after his arm injury.
No value, whatsoever taking him #1 overall, or anywhere close to that.
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More likely go after Geno Smith I’d think…..
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Don’t underestimate the “All-American QB from USC” appeal. As long as we don’t take him (and we won’t), I’m fine.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Almost 1000 posts in the last 15 hours. I guess cutting a useless piece of crap has got the nation fired up. Lets see about the team.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:58 am
No QBs or LBs in the 1st.
We need to develop and evaluate TP and keep CP for another season.
I don’t think any of these LBs is worth a top 10 pick including JJ and Te’O.
We need to draft DE, DT/ NT, CB, OL, and RB.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:59 am
What’s he drinking?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Thats your opinion Albert,…but every funeral I have been to people usually drink at,..not to mention a Raider tailgate.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I think the Chiefs are going to be stuck with the #1 pick and forced to take Geno Smith.
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Nobody’s “stuck” with the #1 pick anymore. The rookie salary scale has made every pick very signable. If the Chiefs want to trade down, someone will be there to deal with.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I think the Chiefs are going to be stuck with the #1 pick and forced to take Geno Smith.
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Nobody’s “stuck” with the #1 pick anymore. The rookie salary scale has made every pick very signable. If the Chiefs want to trade down, someone will be there to deal with.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:00 am
If you want what is best for this team you better hope the Browns beat us this weekend, and that we lose out for the remainder of the season.
Force a change in the coaching staff and get the best draft position possible to help rebuild this roster.
That is our only hope.
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If I had any faith in this coaching staff I would be rooting for a stong finish to the season…..that jsut ain’t happening.
Sorry fellas.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Brien usually hits the clear Remy or Henny…Patron, Don Julio,…Skyy vodka,…we all do. Thats whats being served Sunday,..pop on by.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Bill Romanowski @billromanowski
Thank God I don’t have to watch Rolando McClain anymore! It is an honor and a privilege to play and he was an embarrassment not only (con’t)
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November 29th, 2012 at 8:02 am
If I had any faith in this coaching staff I would be rooting for a stRong finish to the season…..that jUSt ain’t happening.
Sorry fellas.
Dayyyum, I need me some coffee!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:02 am
My favourite play of the Rolando McClain tenure with the Raiders is this year against the Bucs when he actually chose the right gap – for once – and ran right by Doug Martin on his first TD run, without even touching him or realizing he had the ball! Classic!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:04 am
If Al were still alive I would be worried about this headline: “Honey Badger to enter NFL Draft”….Al would dump our first round pick on him.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Would love to.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:05 am
All these naive fans of other teams all want their team to pick up McClain on waivers. That sounds familiar.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:06 am
And yup, that was the day he had the bottle of clear! That stuff is actually really good! I think that was the day you and I were talking about The Cave, Bob!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:07 am
981.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I think the Chiefs are going to be stuck with the #1 pick and forced to take Geno Smith.
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If they take Geno Smith, that’s a guaranteed 2 division wins for the rest of the AFC west the next 4 years.
I still think they take Te’o, especially if he wins the Heisman and ND wins the title unless Alabama or Georgia expose how weak ND actually is.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:08 am
How could the best Slo-Mania moment not include him just falling on his butt in the Denver game on the pass over the middle for a TD?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:09 am
niceguymoe Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:02 am
My favourite play of the Rolando McClain tenure with the Raiders is this year against the Bucs when he actually chose the right gap – for once – and ran right by Doug Martin on his first TD run, without even touching him or realizing he had the ball! Classic!
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He was probably surprised to find a ball carrier in the gap he chose
November 29th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I would draft the Honey Badger in the 5th round, as I think he can be an elite kick returner.
Oh wait……we traded that 5th round pick for 7 personal fouls from Aaron Curry.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:10 am
I feel like the Chiefs have to take a QB just to appease their fans. They haven’t developed a successful QB since 1987 or something like that.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Honey Badger is 5′9, and can’t play man coverage.
Also think he will run a 4.5+ forty.
I don’t see him going higher than the 5th round, but who knows.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am
991.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Bill Romanowski @billromanowski
Thank God I don’t have to watch Rolando McClain anymore! It is an honor and a privilege to play and he was an embarrassment not only (con’t)
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Romo’s next tweet:
….To the Raiders and to all the warriors who worked their asses off. Sorry but I am glad not to see him play again…..Hopefully EVER!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am
996.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:05 am
All these naive fans of other teams all want their team to pick up McClain on waivers. That sounds familiar.
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Whenever your team is about to pick up a player, via trade or off waiver, or even sign a free agent, just go look at a blog covering that player’s last team, and you will know what you are getting.
We traded for Curry and Seahawk fan is saying good luck with that…..low and behold Curry blows.
We trade for Wimbley, and Brown fan is saying Damn there goes our only pass rusher….low and behold, Wimbley was decent.
We sign Kwame Harris, and 49er fan is laughing his azz off.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am
How ’bout that photo of him being arrested? Grining like a fool with an awful rugby shirt on.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Whenever your team is about to pick up a player, via trade or off waiver, or even sign a free agent, just go look at a blog covering that player’s last team, and you will know what you are getting.
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We laughed at the Pats for getting Randy Moss, We let the Eagles know they’re getting a great player in Nnamdi. I think it only works when it’s not us doing the boasting
November 29th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Neilb Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am
How ’bout that photo of him being arrested? Grining like a fool with an awful rugby shirt on.
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Say what you want about McClain, but the kid has style. He should start doing Old Navy ads.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:16 am
I hope the chiefs claim McClain off waivers….McFadden will have a 200 yd day for a change.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Hawaiin bro,..The Cave is 5 weeks away for me,..cant wait,….will be there a while,…in Maui,..well in the cave too.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 am
So far Reggie’s cuts haven’t done much with other teams. Satele is probably the only one making an impact.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I think he was wearing a Louis Vuitton belt as well
November 29th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Lol McFadden,..he wont be playin KC game,..today sometime we will here he had a setback at practice yesterday,..tripped on a raindrop.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:18 am
neilb Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am
How ’bout that photo of him being arrested? Grining like a fool with an awful rugby shirt on.
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If the Judge would’ve watched McClain’s game film, he’d be charged with attempted murder. I believe McClain was aiming for the head, but whiffed on the shot.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 am
So far Reggie’s cuts haven’t done much with other teams. Satele is probably the only one making an impact.
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We should’ve kept him. Murphy made a huge catch on Monday vs the Eagles Dream team secondary
November 29th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I’ve worked it out.
Romac was asking Allen for some viagra and Allen thought he’d been called a stiff pr!ck.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Good morning Señoritas!!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:24 am
We should’ve kept him. Murphy made a huge catch on Monday vs the Eagles Dream team secondary
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Yeah, but he only has 12 catches on the year.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:25 am
If the Judge would’ve watched McClain’s game film, he’d be charged with attempted murder. I believe McClain was aiming for the head, but whiffed on the shot.
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If the Judge had watched some game film he would have charged Romac with impersonating a footballer.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:27 am
990.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Brien usually hits the clear Remy or Henny…Patron, Don Julio,…Skyy vodka,…we all do. Thats whats being served Sunday,..pop on by.
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Oohh Don Julio is one of the best Tequilas.
100% recommended.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:24 am
We should’ve kept him. Murphy made a huge catch on Monday vs the Eagles Dream team secondary
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Yeah, but he only has 12 catches on the year.
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That’s probably because the Carolina coaching staff has Cam Newton dropping back and throwing it to himself when he’s not carrying the ball 15+ times
November 29th, 2012 at 8:31 am
First time Murphy has contributed something to the Raiders for a change. That win moved us up the draft board one spot.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:34 am
boss01 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:31 am
First time Murphy has contributed something to the Raiders for a change. That win moved us up the draft board one spot.
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He helped us beat the Steelers in his rookie year, for that i will always be grateful. And for his triple block on Zack Miller’s 85 yard TD
November 29th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Murphy was like that here, he would make a spectacular catch, and then drop 5 easy ones.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:41 am
So is it official yet? Slomac gone? I haven’t seen any tweets from Cork or AP_NFL yet.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I liked Lou Murph, he had some fire to him.
Didn’t like getting rid of him, but he isn’t a game-changer or anything, so we should be able to replace him.
Still curious what type of draft pick we get from that.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Nobody celebrated a 7 yd catch like Lou Murph
November 29th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Nothin is official man…… I’m tapping my foot over here. Having a slow morning at work, and now word on Romac situation…..Feeling real ansy.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Didn’t like getting rid of him, but he isn’t a game-changer or anything, so we should be able to replace him.
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Yeah, the problem was that we had four other guys just like him on the roster already – guys who occasionally make a brilliant catch, but mostly don’t get open or drop easy passes.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Bogut out “indefinitely”.
What a fkn stiff!!!!!
Love what the Warriors are doing this season so far, but what kind of flipping trade was that?
Can we get Udoh back?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Can’t wait till Knapp Times is over! Fire Knapp!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Still curious what type of draft pick we get from that.
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It was a conditional pick, if I had to take a gander it was probably a 6th or 7th that moves to a 5th or 6th based on pt/performance
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Bengals gave Curry a tryout.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 am
tripped on a raindrop.
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LMFAO
November 29th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I think Murph was a 4th rounder when we picked him so, it’s not an even swap either.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:05 am
All these naive fans of other teams all want their team to pick up McClain on waivers. That sounds familiar.
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I know man lol but it makes sense to throw. Flyer on a former top pick , who still young, but this group just goes crazy for anyone lol even if there stats suggest they are declining and he’s just another headcase we don’t need on the team
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
So, was Kelly blowing up yesterday too?…..I was reading retweets on here about him goin’
“F this, and F that” actin all belidgerent.
Any of this for real?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
J Hill Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 am
tripped on a raindrop.
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LMFAO
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Lol he can be funny sometimes,when he’s not trolling lmfao
November 29th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Kelly doesn’t have a Twitter account, so I don’t know if thats true
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 am
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/k6485r
Adam Caplan (@caplannfl)
Posted Thursday 29th November 2012 from TweetCaster
Also on the podcast, a breakdown of Rolando McClain “One of the worst 4-3 middle linebackers I’ve seen on tape this season,” according to Cosell.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
So, was Kelly blowing up yesterday too?…..I was reading retweets on here about him goin’
“F this, and F that” actin all belidgerent.
Any of this for real?
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He was physically trying to get in DA’s face, but a ball boy was able to keep him at bay and push him back to the locker room.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
So, was Kelly blowing up yesterday too?…..I was reading retweets on here about him goin’
“F this, and F that” actin all belidgerent.
Any of this for real?
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I haven’t seen anything like that, except from in here, which is it’s own world sometimes.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I hate these idiots who freaking post some news from other teams and start speculating about this team , where did this McFadden went went to m Davis sh17 came from ? Does anyone have legitimate link to that story?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Bengals gave Curry a tryout.
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So that’s two straight teams that tried out the #4 pick of the 2009 draft and said “No thanks.”
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
I follow every resource available about the Raiders, and almost all of the national football writers on twitter. I saw nothing about Kelly yesterday
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
So, was Kelly blowing up yesterday too?…..I was reading retweets on here about him goin’
“F this, and F that” actin all belidgerent.
Any of this for real?
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He was physically trying to get in DA’s face, but a ball boy was able to keep him at bay and push him back to the locker room.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
He was physically trying to get in DA’s face, but a ball boy was able to keep him at bay and push him back to the locker room.
Lmfao
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
REPORT: Tommy Kelly may be the next to go STAY TUNED..Money is no longer a issue they want players “who care and want to buy in”
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November 29th, 2012 at 8:57 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
So, was Kelly blowing up yesterday too?…..I was reading retweets on here about him goin’
“F this, and F that” actin all belidgerent.
Any of this for real?
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He was physically trying to get in DA’s face, but a ball boy was able to keep him at bay and push him back to the locker room.
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Man, WTF happened at practice yesterday I wonder? Steve doesn’t think DA’s lost the locker room. Well if he hasn’t yet, he’s on the verge it sounds like.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:57 am
It was a conditional pick, if I had to take a gander it was probably a 6th or 7th that moves to a 5th or 6th based on pt/performance
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Well, we have some hope for a higher pick.
We trot our vaunted passing defense out to Carolina in a few weeks.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Sum funny sh1t in am
November 29th, 2012 at 8:58 am
As for Murphy: The pick we got for him was conditional 7th-rounder, the condition being that he made the team. Since he did, we’ve got that pick, but it won’t go higher.
As for Kelly: IF (and I’m saying if) he really was jawing out there on the practice field, then he should be the next to go.
For that matter, even if it WASN’T him shooting his mouth off, he should still go. He’s only good at one thing (rushing the passer), and I currently have twice as many 2012 sacks as he does.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:59 am
I saw nothing about Kelly yesterday
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Someone was saying it was on Facebook I believe, but I remember TK in his chat with Cork that he didn’t do any of that.
There was also supposedly a Mike Huff “it is what it is” quote.
Probably all made up.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:57 am
It was a conditional pick, if I had to take a gander it was probably a 6th or 7th that moves to a 5th or 6th based on pt/performance
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Well, we have some hope for a higher pick.
We trot our vaunted passing defense out to Carolina in a few weeks.
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If our D allows him to have 300 yards through air ,that might be the best thing our D would have done this year
November 29th, 2012 at 9:00 am
http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/11/12/12/Report-Davis-encouraged-McFadden-to-spea/nbcbay_landing.html?blockID=801081
November 29th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Reggie’s presser tomorrow should should be intriguing.
Haven’t looked forward to a presser like that since Al’s overhead projector presser.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:01 am
TK leaving the bench to ACT like he was going to fight was the biggest chickenpoop move of the season.
You want to fight, ask into the game on the next snap and make something happen.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Just cut, baby.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:02 am
DA losing to other teams wasn’t enough, and now he is losing his own locker-room.
Fire titty monkey!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Once again, people: DA’s not going anywhere. Cutting McClain is the proof. It’s DA’s way or the highway. As it should be.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
McClain really is Jameatball2. There are reports that he was sleeping while the defense watched film, and had an ‘I don’t care attitude’…
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
DA is losing the players who see the writing on the wall and know they are next to get axed. As long as he doesn’t lose the core players who will be back im good.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:05 am
That being said, trade down and draft Dion Jordan.. pick up a 2nd rounder..
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
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Yup. I would be willing to bet money that most of the people criticizing Dennis Allen’s physique aren’t NEARLY as fit as he.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
theghostronin79 Says:
So, was Kelly blowing up yesterday too?…..I was reading retweets on here about him goin’
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I think that was just some poster here pretending like he’s all tight with some of the players. I think it was bullsh!t.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:05 am
That being said, trade down and draft Dion Jordan.. pick up a 2nd rounder..
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I’m down for that man. Since I’m a Duck fan, I’ve watched every down Jordan has played. He’s a monster.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
He’s losing locker room? The guy who known as mcjogger got upset we ain’t Doing anything?? He was probably upset over demoted role, maybe they wanted to see if he could be a back up long snapper since his services at MLB are not needed anymore
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
$$$$$$$$$$
Do you have man boobs too?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:07 am
1048.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
REPORT: Tommy Kelly may be the next to go STAY TUNED..Money is no longer a issue they want players “who care and want to buy in”
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After reading the tweets from that particular resource, it sounds VERY much like someone from this blog, and not a real media outlet. Just my opinion
November 29th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Fire that idiot!! Hes been thinking with his tits!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:07 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
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I agree with you. I’m not sure who the retard who started that is.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:07 am
1048.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
REPORT: Tommy Kelly may be the next to go STAY TUNED..Money is no longer a issue they want players “who care and want to buy in”
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After reading the tweets from that particular resource, it sounds VERY much like someone from this blog, and not a real media outlet. Just my opinion
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Probably true.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dion Jordan is made for 3-4
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
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For a while I thought ‘tits’ was actually Knapp. If DA is a C cup, Knapp is a double D.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Dennis Allen doesn’t have man boobs. He was a college football player. He could probably kick the ass of anyone on this blog.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Some team like Pitts will draft him ask him to put on weights
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
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Yup. I would be willing to bet money that most of the people criticizing Dennis Allen’s physique aren’t NEARLY as fit as he.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
OMG!
Defending DA’s physique?!
Are you related to Titty Monkey?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.
$$$$$$$$$$
Do you have man boobs too?
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Not at all.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Mclain is the biggest bum we drafted sinse Jamarcus,but I would gladly keep him and send Reggie, DA,and Knapp to the soup line.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dion Jordan is made for 3-4
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That’s where we’re headed… so yep.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Tommy Kelly, Mike Huff, Rolando McClain, these three are loseable. But they’ve been around along time and carry alot of influnce. Hopefully players realize those guys are a major part of the problem.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dion Jordan is made for 3-4
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I dunno man. Oregon’s D really is multiple. They even run the Ameoba sometimes. Bring heat alot too. Jordan has been very effective coming off the edge and been used alot as a LB as well. He’s fast and can set the edge.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Raider O, I’m beginning to think you’re kind of a ninny.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Mike Huff has earned his shield this year. Period.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 am
I nicknamed him tits because he has tits…
And i nicknamed him idiot because he’s an idiot..
They are not ironic nicknames
November 29th, 2012 at 9:13 am
1076.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Dennis Allen doesn’t have man boobs. He was a college football player. He could probably kick the ass of anyone on this blog.
Oh,being a college football player makes him a tough guy huh?I would bust his A$$ in a heart beat,than yours right after that.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:13 am
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
He was physically trying to get in DA’s face, but a ball boy was able to keep him at bay and push him back to the locker room.
Lmfao
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Just about lost my coffe when I read that one… too funny.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Problem is the Coaches believe the players are the only reason they suck right now, and the players probably think the Coaches are the only reason they can’t win right now. Truth is it’s both mentalities are the reason we suck right now.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Duck and Bcz must be related to someone on this staff. They create so many excuses for this staff, and they defend this staff like family.
DA has man boobs. Get over it!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:05 am
That being said, trade down and draft Dion Jordan.. pick up a 2nd rounder..
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Unless Reggie falls in love with Te’o or Lotulelei, I can totally see that. Trade down and get ze picks.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Mike Huff has earned his shield this year. Period.
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He does that toward the end of every season. Haven’t you learned that by now, it’s been 8 years of making just enough plays.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:15 am
morons out in full force here this morning.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Not trying to do a 180 or anything, while I may like and prefere certain coaches, players and style of playing/schemes, my end wish is that the Raiders are a solid organization with success on the field, don’t care who makes it happen.
I support Mark and Reggie, DA as well…for now. I haven’t liked a lot of their decisions (#hashtag Knapp over Saunders installing a ZBS to the detriment of their 2 key players, McFadden and Palmer).
I didn’t think this team needed a blow up, just some (big) renovation jobs that could have been done on the fly IMO. But, the more that this season has unfolded and reading about McClain last night…..maybe that’s what’s got to take place?
I’m not looking at it as “Al’s guys vs Reggie’s guys” kinda thing. Moreso, perhaps guys that have been here too long (Kelly, Huff, McFadden, etc.)….just need to go elsewhere for the betterment of themselves and the Raiders?
I didn’t think it needed to be this way, but maybe Reggie viewed this as a demolition coming in….maybe he was ultimately right?
Looking forward to the Presser on Friday.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:15 am
I wouldn’t shed 1 tear if they cut McFadden too
November 29th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Ok maybe just 1 tear but ill be alright after that
November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Raider O, I’m beginning to think you’re kind of a ninny.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MR,
That would hurt, if I didn’t know you are a cross posting troll who likes his cousin and aunt.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Oh,being a college football player makes him a tough guy huh?I would bust his A$$ in a heart beat,than yours right after that.
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Hi, I’m Oakfoshow. People call me Oakfoshow.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:17 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:13 am
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 am
He was physically trying to get in DA’s face, but a ball boy was able to keep him at bay and push him back to the locker room.
Lmfao
I wish he would have split DA’s forehead wideopen!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Duck and Bcz must be related to someone on this staff. They create so many excuses for this staff, and they defend this staff like family.
DA has man boobs. Get over it!
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Dont know why it matters, or why I just stooped to that level..
But a quick google search proves that wrong.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Why would anyone defend a coaches looks are you his wife?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Hey Duck, you’d like to have Jordan wouldn’t you? Since you live in Oregon as well right?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Unless Reggie falls in love with Te’o or Lotulelei, I can totally see that. Trade down and get ze picks.
Bottom lip wont be here to fall in love with any draft pick.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Duck and Bcz must be related to someone on this staff. They create so many excuses for this staff, and they defend this staff like family.
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Yup. Same defense I used for Hue. You can’t adequately judge a rookie head coach on such a short sample size. Houston is a perfect example. They were terrible for years under Kubiak, but they were patient while he built for his vision. Now they are in the top 5 best teams in the NFL. I am not saying that Allen will get there, but I don’t believe you can decide that after 11 games (some of you only needed 1 game), especially with the piss poor roster he inherited.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:19 am
In many places of business, when a long time employee friendly boss leaves, the new boss stands no chance with a lot of those employee’s.
A house-cleaning is in order. Sucks to watch it on Sundays, but they are taking the two steps back for 3 steps forward approach.
Reggie was a former player as well, so he knows what the players are thinking. I trust his judgement to keep guys that want to work hard, and cut those that want to play hard.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:19 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Duck and Bcz must be related to someone on this staff. They create so many excuses for this staff, and they defend this staff like family.
DA has man boobs. Get over it!
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Dont know why it matters, or why I just stooped to that level..
But a quick google search proves that wrong.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
You googled his pic?
You People…..
Still LOL
November 29th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:13 am
1076.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Dennis Allen doesn’t have man boobs. He was a college football player. He could probably kick the ass of anyone on this blog.
Oh,being a college football player makes him a tough guy huh?I would bust his A$$ in a heart beat,than yours right after that.
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Good morning Oakofsh*t.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Hey Duck, you’d like to have Jordan wouldn’t you? Since you live in Oregon as well right?
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Haven’t lived in Oregon for years, but am still a huge Ducks fan. Any ex-Ducks coming to Oakland would be great!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Hey Duck, you’d like to have Jordan wouldn’t you? Since you live in Oregon as well right?
Oregon must be slacking on their child molestation laws.This idiot is still walkng the streets.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dion Jordan is made for 3-4
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I dunno man. Oregon’s D really is multiple. They even run the Ameoba sometimes. Bring heat alot too. Jordan has been very effective coming off the edge and been used alot as a LB as well. He’s fast and can set the edge.
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So if we decide to go multiple he could be a good fit or full time 3-4 ,just don’t see him working out in 4-3 full time, we really need to draft players who would succeed in our scheme or players who would fit into the multiple scheme we’re trying to run
November 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Duck and Bcz must be related to someone on this staff. They create so many excuses for this staff, and they defend this staff like family.
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Yup. Same defense I used for Hue. You can’t adequately judge a rookie head coach on such a short sample size. Houston is a perfect example. They were terrible for years under Kubiak, but they were patient while he built for his vision. Now they are in the top 5 best teams in the NFL. I am not saying that Allen will get there, but I don’t believe you can decide that after 11 games (some of you only needed 1 game), especially with the piss poor roster he inherited.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
Kubiak’s offense has been good for a while. The problem was their defense which they fixed by adding talent and hiring Wade.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am
2012 draft:
Trade down (from 3 likely)
1st – Dion Jordan
2nd – Corey Lemonier
3rd – Kyle Long
November 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Reggiehater = Oakfoshow
This is why the comments section of this blog has turned into hot garbage. Steve and Jon ban a worthless troll, he comes back under another name, and they do nothing.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Hue and AL 8-8.Bottom lip and his transvestite 3-8.I guess the bottom lip lovers cant count either.This blog reminds me everyday why I hate people.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:24 am
I still think that all of the Pryor “talk” was prompted by the discussions on the fans’ message boards, possibly picked up by Corky or JMac. Junior was asked Tuesday during the presser, and Junior gave us his usual robocoach speak. Got everyone’s fickleness going. So, on the follow up Wednesday, it was Pryor chance to robospeak the robocoach.
What else could both Junior and Pryor have done? Had anyone of them said anything else than polite BS, you know that everything would have been blown up, as it is just the mention of “improvements,” generated at least one possible “qq controversy” with the Raiders in this blog, hoping to mimic what’s going on across the bay.
As it is with McClain. So, what’s the final deal with RoMac? Haven’t heard anything back, no national media is talking about it, that I know of, it’s not like the RoMac story is breaking national sport news. But, if indeed RoMac has left, in his own mind that is, and if it’s also true that he said he was looking forward to playing with a “real” team, he is definitely toast, and should be.
I guess we just have to wait for today’s reports.
Looking back to last year’s events, I wrote that I wanted Hue to immediately suspend RoMac for what had happened in Decatur. From that moment on at 7-4, the wheels came off Hue and the rest of the team. At that time, many came out and said that there was no way one punk’s action could affect the psyche or the play of team, and Hue said that the chances of winning with RoMac were better, history tells us that the Raiders were humiliated in Miami and lost 3 straight, to the 1-4 finale and disaster that now looks like 4-12.
I know that in team sports losing, just like winning, is a whole-team effort, however the heavy burden of blame or praises of glory always goes to the leaders as it should be. In the Raiders’ case this season: Marky, BigMac, Junior, Carcux, and Big Rich are called upon to get things done or get out of Oaktown, stop making excuses.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Why the hate for DA, he will get better and he’s getting rid of players we all wanted to get rid off, you can bet some coaches like G Knapp and Sp coaches are on the hot seat as well
November 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am
2012 draft:
Trade down (from 3 likely)
1st – Dion Jordan
2nd – Corey Lemonier
3rd – Kyle Long
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Long is a Mauler….Driving and choking guys until the whistle. He’s still really raw but, he’s got the attitude and the size to go with strength and natural ability. He could be coached into a great lineman.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:26 am
3rd – Kyle Long
1113.RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Reggiehater = Oakfoshow
This is why the comments section of this blog has turned into hot garbage. Steve and Jon ban a worthless troll, he comes back under another name, and they do nothing.
Hi my name is raiderdick,people call me the oregaon child predetor.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Ignore reggiehater and zopi= Mistic
November 29th, 2012 at 9:28 am
1116.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Why the hate for DA, he will get better and he’s getting rid of players we all wanted to get rid off, you can bet some coaches like G Knapp and Sp coaches are on the hot seat as well
Because that transvestite is worthless.Playoffs remember? AAAAAAA HAAAAA
November 29th, 2012 at 9:28 am
I would take a flyer on Brandon Jenkins DE from fsu in 3rd or 4th
November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Kubiak’s offense has been good for a while. The problem was their defense which they fixed by adding talent and hiring Wade.
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Yeah but how would that happen if they fired him after his first season at 6-10?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Well the way we have the dline set up tight every down we definitely need some speed rushers…
November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 am
1119.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Ignore reggiehater and zopi= Mistic
Like anybody would take advise from a guy who predicted playoffs this year.dumba$$!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Oakofshow, are you Rolando McClain?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
So what if I predicted playoffs ? Does that mean I would have to stick by it ? One can realize and own upto it’s mistakes and call it for what it really is , a rebuild year
November 29th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Oakofshow, are you Rolando McClain?
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That would make a lot of sense..
November 29th, 2012 at 9:31 am
1121.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:28 am
I would take a flyer on Brandon Jenkins DE from fsu in 3rd or 4th
I would take a flyer on you shutting up! Playoffs. jeeeeeezus.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:32 am
anyways I’m done responding to trolls , any one have interesting prospects we should take a chance on in late rounds?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I don’t hate da.. But every coach that he brought in is a big downgrade from the guys they replaced. Hiring coaches is a huge part of his job..
November 29th, 2012 at 9:33 am
With the pick we got for Murphy im taking Marcus Lattimore… Bush 2.0.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am
1125.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Oakofshow, are you Rolando McClain?
Yea,and I just called him the biggest bum sinse Jamrcus.Cant count or read can ya son?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Brandon Jenkins DE FSU is the only guy I can think of who would drop because of injuries or other stuff
November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Hue and AL 8-8.Bottom lip and his transvestite 3-8.I guess the bottom lip lovers cant count either.This blog reminds me everyday why I hate people.
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And yet you come here, day after day, hanging on every word that’s typed. You’ve even been banned and then lied about your identity (violating the company’s TOS, thus possibly breaking one or more federal laws) to get back on here.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Troll troll troll troll racist racist racist racist exposed exposed exposed playoffs playoffs playoffs Rod streater Rod streater Rod Streater.I wonder if this guy knows any other words.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am
1125.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Oakofshow, are you Rolando McClain?
Yea,and I just called him the biggest bum sinse Jamrcus.Cant count or read can ya son?
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How would you like to get banned again? All we have to do is send Cork an email.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Yeah, I thought there was a decent core to work with here, but with a 3-8 record, apparent dissention in the locker room….broken arrow…..broken arrow. As much as DA needs to convince me he can do the job, it’s almost refreshing to see coaches being backed her for once instead of the players. don’t know if it’ll work, but at least it’s a different path. I always try to focus on the positives. lol
I love Darren McFadden, he was ascending to Charles Woodson status in my Raider deity. But watching that poor guy get neutered in Knapp’s crap play calling, just trade the poor man and get some needed picks for him.
Regardless of whom we pick or if we trade down for more picks, Reggie’s really gotta make this draft count.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:33 am
With the pick we got for Murphy im taking Marcus Lattimore… Bush 2.0.
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Interesting? But I doubt the guy would want to play again after injuries 2 years in a row especially the kinda injury he suffered this year..yikes.. But if he does decide to enter draft ,you can do that and red shirt him like M Bush, interesting prospect
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
1134.RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Hue and AL 8-8.Bottom lip and his transvestite 3-8.I guess the bottom lip lovers cant count either.This blog reminds me everyday why I hate people.
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And yet you come here, day after day, hanging on every word that’s typed. You’ve even been banned and then lied about your identity (violating the company’s TOS, thus possibly breaking one or more federal laws) to get back on here.
And Im fixen to violate another one when we meet son.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 am
any one have interesting prospects we should take a chance on in late rounds?
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Going to be a homer, but Kasey Carrier from New Mexico would be worth a 6th or 7th round look.
Can return kicks and play special teams, and set a Lobo record for rushing yards, even though they had inarguable the worst QB play ever. Literally EVER.
Also broke LT’s Mountain West single game rushing record, with like 340 yards.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
This coaching staff is rubbish. I think titty monkey must have milk between his ears to hire these àssholes..
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 am
any one have interesting prospects we should take a chance on in late rounds?
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Going to be a homer, but Kasey Carrier from New Mexico would be worth a 6th or 7th round look.
Can return kicks and play special teams, and set a Lobo record for rushing yards, even though they had inarguable the worst QB play ever. Literally EVER.
Also broke LT’s Mountain West single game rushing record, with like 340 yards.
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Rather have Stefphon Jefferson.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Gangsta pudding!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
1136.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am
1125.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Oakofshow, are you Rolando McClain?
Yea,and I just called him the biggest bum sinse Jamrcus.Cant count or read can ya son?
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How would you like to get banned again? All we have to do is send Cork an email.
DAAAAAD DAAAAAD please ban reggiehater he is always right.DAAAAAD. Oh no please dont do that ,that would break my heart.I would have to take 3 min out of my day to change my screen name.Idiot.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Can Lattimore seriously consider playing football again after that horrendous leg injury?
I think that one was a Napoleon McCallum like career ender.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Adding Marks Hair to the dummy list.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
And Im fixen to violate another one when we meet son.
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The law against urinating yourself in public, I assume?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am
But this draft should be all about Pass rush & Oline.
Probably a Nose Tackle too.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am
GreatWhiteRaider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Yeah, I thought there was a decent core to work with here, but with a 3-8 record, apparent dissention in the locker room….broken arrow…..broken arrow. As much as DA needs to convince me he can do the job, it’s almost refreshing to see coaches being backed her for once instead of the players. don’t know if it’ll work, but at least it’s a different path. I always try to focus on the positives. lol
I love Darren McFadden, he was ascending to Charles Woodson status in my Raider deity. But watching that poor guy get neutered in Knapp’s crap play calling, just trade the poor man and get some needed picks for him.
Regardless of whom we pick or if we trade down for more picks, Reggie’s really gotta make this draft count.
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You’re right,it’s refreshing to see that the GM have the back of coaches this time around and not the other way,just the way it should be..
November 29th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Rather have Stefphon Jefferson.
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He’s not a late round pick, if he comes out this year, he will be one of the first 3-4 RB’s drafted.
I thought we were talking late round flyers?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Can Lattimore seriously consider playing football again after that horrendous leg injury?
I think that one was a Napoleon McCallum like career ender.
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With todays DRs.. And with McGahee & AP doing what they did..
November 29th, 2012 at 9:44 am
1146.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Adding Marks Hair to the dummy list.
Cork is not going to like that.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 am
any one have interesting prospects we should take a chance on in late rounds?
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Going to be a homer, but Kasey Carrier from New Mexico would be worth a 6th or 7th round look.
Can return kicks and play special teams, and set a Lobo record for rushing yards, even though they had inarguable the worst QB play ever. Literally EVER.
Also broke LT’s Mountain West single game rushing record, with like 340 yards.
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if he broke LTs record than he’s future HOF take him in 1st rd lol
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Rather have Stefphon Jefferson.
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He’s not a late round pick, if he comes out this year, he will be one of the first 3-4 RB’s drafted.
I thought we were talking late round flyers?
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Correct, sorry… Wasnt sure how high he was on the radar.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Adding Marks Hair to the dummy list.
1147.RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
And Im fixen to violate another one when we meet son.
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The law against urinating yourself in public, I assume?
Na,im thinking battery against a moron.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Sports Interaction moved the Raiders to 1 point favorites BTW.
Oakfoloser said this team would never be favored again with DA as the coach.
They are favored in the next game they play, exactly as I told you.
They will also be favored against the Chiefs, and who knows maybe in San Diego.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
I’m still trying to think of a way to get Philip Thomas on this team.. The Senior All American safety lead the nation in takeaways this year with 8 interceptions 2 fumble recoveries.. with 4 forced fumbles and 3 sacks the kid is a ball hawk and a playmaker.. oh 3 defensive tds as well.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Na,im thinking battery against a moron.
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Says the guy who can’t spell “I’m” correctly. Whatever. Have fun in your fantasy world.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Lets get over lattimores injury my legs hurt just thinking about it
November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am
raiderduck,madden20,albert the idiot all predicted playoffs while telling me i dont know football when I said we would be lucky to win 4 games.Now look how they cry to cork like little girls.Not suprised,talk about exposed.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Go ahead and print your smart comments right next to my dumb comment that way I’ll learn something thanks
November 29th, 2012 at 9:49 am
1156.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Sports Interaction moved the Raiders to 1 point favorites BTW.
Oakfoloser said this team would never be favored again with DA as the coach.
They are favored in the next game they play, exactly as I told you.
They will also be favored against the Chiefs, and who knows maybe in San Diego.
Oak never said no such damn thing.Liers and idiots.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am
raiderduck,madden20,albert the idiot all predicted playoffs while telling me i dont know football when I said we would be lucky to win 4 games.Now look how they cry to cork like little girls.Not suprised,talk about exposed.
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I never predicted the playoffs.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Is McClain news official yet, it would be like a bad Christmas if we found out he’s still on the roster after 4pm eastern time
November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am
raiderduck,madden20,albert the idiot all predicted playoffs while telling me i dont know football when I said we would be lucky to win 4 games.Now look how they cry to cork like little girls.Not suprised,talk about exposed.
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I never predicted the playoffs.
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Uh he’s just mad cuz no one likes him, let him troll , he’s not even worth the time
November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 am
1158.RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Na,im thinking battery against a moron.
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Says the guy who can’t spell “I’m” correctly. Whatever. Have fun in your fantasy world.
================================================ Hi im raiderdick.Im always wrong on football so I will just talk about peoples spelling.Man i need to change blogs soon.Nobody like me.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Is McClain news official yet, it would be like a bad Christmas if we found out he’s still on the roster after 4pm eastern time
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Dude, you and me both. I’m gnashing my teeth and rattling my fingers on my desk just waiting for some news…. ANY news.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am
raiderduck,madden20,albert the idiot all predicted playoffs while telling me i dont know football when I said we would be lucky to win 4 games.Now look how they cry to cork like little girls.Not suprised,talk about exposed.
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I never predicted the playoffs.
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Nor did I. Oakfoshow’s recollection is even worse than his grammar.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 am
some people were mentioning that Tommy Kelly was dumping oxygen onto the McClain fire…..is this true. I cant find anythign about it. thx
November 29th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Is McClain news official yet, it would be like a bad Christmas if we found out he’s still on the roster after 4pm eastern time
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Dude, you and me both. I’m gnashing my teeth and rattling my fingers on my desk just waiting for some news…. ANY news.
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No biggie. If he’s not cut, he’ll be suspended.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hope to see these guys off the team in order ASAP
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1. Seymour
2.kelly
3.briesel
4. TB
5.mcfadden
6.knapp
7.sp coach
November 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Whats smoking Green Party?!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am
1163.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am
raiderduck,madden20,albert the idiot all predicted playoffs while telling me i dont know football when I said we would be lucky to win 4 games.Now look how they cry to cork like little girls.Not suprised,talk about exposed.
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I never predicted the playoffs.
Why you lieing little bstrd!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
I am lmao at the comments section over on the Bill Williamson BSPN Mclain article. 90% of the posters blame the system/coaches for Mclains piss poor play.
Reg needs to work a trade, and get some sorta draft pick for Mclain. Play up the angle that he is a great “talent”, and get a pick Reg!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Way smarter cutting guys now rather than going with my pre trade deadline firesale… dummies
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Good morning Mr. Prez. Where is The ODB?
Long live the ODB!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
boss01 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
DA is losing the players who see the writing on the wall and know they are next to get axed. As long as he doesn’t lose the core players who will be back im good.
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Thats a ridiculous statement to make. How can a house divided against itself stand!!!???
Anyone who knows anything about football can tell that the team has tanked it,and-or-this coachong staff is clueless. The whole structure of the team is screwed up, starting with a HC-Allen that doesnt have a clue, and including his OC-Knapp nad DC-Tarver, and a washed up immobile QB with suspect decision making.
Reggie’s got to make a move, winning teams improve, they dont go backwards like we have! If Reggie doesnt make a move, then he should be canned also!! You cannot bring this staff back if no improvement is shown over the last 5-games…otherwise this will start all over again next year.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Is McClain news official yet, it would be like a bad Christmas if we found out he’s still on the roster after 4pm eastern time
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Dude, you and me both. I’m gnashing my teeth and rattling my fingers on my desk just waiting for some news…. ANY news.
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Yeah it would totally suck if that doesn’t happen and both parties come out like nothing happened it was all media, that was one of the best things Raiders done this year and message was needed to be sent , but still nothing official yet
November 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Our players aren’t worth anything in a trade due to the ridiculous contracts Al bestowed on them.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Reggiehater Says:
Hue and AL 8-8.Bottom lip and his transvestite 3-8.
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Duck, JFB, ABP, other rational posters: Now you see what it is. The “tits” label is a thinly veiled homophobic slur with these guys. I’m not sure why they think that way about DA, but it’s obvious that’s what it is.
Maybe another season or more with DA will chase off these idiots from the Nation.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:59 am
1171.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hope to see these guys off the team in order ASAP
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1. Seymour
2.kelly
3.briesel
4. TB
5.mcfadden
6.knapp
7.sp coach
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Knapp’s only #6? ha ha
I hate to get called, 15 yards for piling on kinda thing….but he’s just awful. He must be a supreme honk in the football industry cuz there’s certainly no shortage of apologists for him?
Isn’t he the same guy TO blew up on the sidelines way back when with the 49ers?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:00 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hope to see these guys off the team in order ASAP
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1. Seymour
2.kelly
3.briesel
4. TB
5.mcfadden
6.knapp
7.sp coach
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I get the rest but not McFadden. He’s not lazy or untalented. He’s just injury prone. Still worth the gamble though.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Mush, the Raiders have NO CHANCE this weekend.
The game will not be close.
Browns 38 Raiders 24
November 29th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Marks Hair Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Way smarter cutting guys now rather than going with my pre trade deadline firesale… dummies
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Aren’t you on the “not so smart” list? Why are you making sense?
Trading players is better than releasing them? No team will trade for TK, McClain, etc… But they do trade for L Murphy.
You are wasting your time brother.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am
and both parties come out like nothing happened it was all media,
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That’s the old Raiders organization.
The new one is much more media friendly, so far everything leaked has been 100% accurate.
This will be as well. Rolando won’t be at practice, and the announcement he is waived will come afterwards.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Always a new guy under a new screen name calling for DA and Regs head, every day, I wonder who really hates REG and DA the most in here ..hmmm
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
FIREREGGIENOW!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Good morning Mr. Prez. Where is The ODB?
Long live the ODB!
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ODB is probably taking his union break, firing up a fatty.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Our players aren’t worth anything in a trade due to the ridiculous contracts Al bestowed on them.
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Ahh I forgot about the rule that doesn’t allow both teams to restructure with players before/ after the trade.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I would also take a flier [if cheap] on Glenn Dorsey as a 3-4 DE..
November 29th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Reggie i can wait for a full offseason from him before i judge. But DA and his staff are huge mistakes. Neither has shown any improvment at all.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I get McFadden is talented blah blah, but he just sets bad example to other guys by going down so easily , I mentioned last night how guys like Steven Jackson inspire their teammates by giving up to go down , you can bet this guy has the opposite effect on the team
November 29th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Lou Murph was making 4th round pick money, that’s why he was tradeable.
Ford has trade value, Burris does, Veldheer definitely does, Moore, Desmond Bryant.
TK, Seymour, Branch, Huff, Rolando and DHB don’t.
Teams don’t want bad contracts, no matter if the guy can play.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Our players aren’t worth anything in a trade due to the ridiculous contracts Al bestowed on them.
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Ahh I forgot about the rule that doesn’t allow both teams to restructure with players before/ after the trade.
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Such restructuring would involve the players being paid less guaranteed money. Since Kelly, DMac, McClain and Seymour are nothing more than check-cashers, no way do they accept that kind of deal.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Giving their every last effort before going down *^^^ damn this iPhone
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 am
But DA and his staff are huge mistakes. Neither has shown any improvment at all.
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Has ANYBODY shown improvement??
Should we just cut 53 players, an entire coaching staff and a front office?
We got to keep someone!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Lou Murph was making 4th round pick money, that’s why he was tradeable.
Ford has trade value, Burris does, Veldheer definitely does, Moore, Desmond Bryant.
TK, Seymour, Branch, Huff, Rolando and DHB don’t.
Teams don’t want bad contracts, no matter if the guy can play.
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Like I said, teams can restructure to trade players. It happens a lot.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Check it out if you wish…
Muck City: Winning And Losing In Football’s Forgotten Town Of Belle Glade, Florida
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201211/bryan-mealer-muck-city-belle-glade-raiders-jessie-hester
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
McFadden is McClain of this O,always half adding everything if things aren’t going his way or if he doesn’t like the scheme
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Murphy was one of the only guys on this roster who cared about winning. Too many drops but he maid plays and blocked with ferocity.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I get McFadden is talented blah blah, but he just sets bad example to other guys by going down so easily , I mentioned last night how guys like Steven Jackson inspire their teammates by giving up to go down , you can bet this guy has the opposite effect on the team
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He runs hard, it’s not like he just goes down when he sees defenders comming. He just gets tripped up.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Should we just cut 53 players, an entire coaching staff and a front office?
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Yes
Bring on an expansion team Oakland Raiders.
Send the clowns to LA and change their names.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:09 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
McFadden is McClain of this O,always half adding everything if things aren’t going his way or if he doesn’t like the scheme
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You need to stop man.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Half a$sing^^^*
November 29th, 2012 at 10:09 am
ddwight Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
boss01 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 am
DA is losing the players who see the writing on the wall and know they are next to get axed. As long as he doesn’t lose the core players who will be back im good.
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Thats a ridiculous statement to make. How can a house divided against itself stand!!!???
Anyone who knows anything about football can tell that the team has tanked it,and-or-this coachong staff is clueless. The whole structure of the team is screwed up, starting with a HC-Allen that doesnt have a clue, and including his OC-Knapp nad DC-Tarver, and a washed up immobile QB with suspect decision making.
Reggie’s got to make a move, winning teams improve, they dont go backwards like we have! If Reggie doesnt make a move, then he should be canned also!! You cannot bring this staff back if no improvement is shown over the last 5-games…otherwise this will start all over again next year.
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Like it or not its happening. It happens in every locker room. It has happened in the eagles locker room, jets locker room and dolts locker room to name a few.
Guys like Kelly, Seymour are not buying in to DA, but who the eff cares, they are not producing, they are washed up, and they know they are on their way out. At this point I don’t care if CP3 or McFadden are not buying in. Nobody is producing enough to warrant getting paid.
And I am not seeing everyone tankin it…the ones that are tankin it, are next to get axed. Wholesale changes need to be made, the 8-8 team was not gonna go anywhere anyway. YES everybody has regressed under DA, YES Reggie’s bargain players are not setting the world on fire, that cannot be ignored, in fact I would not lose sleep if they are fired this year, but these BUMS on the current roster need to go. The sooner the better.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Our players aren’t worth anything in a trade due to the ridiculous contracts Al bestowed on them.
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Ahh I forgot about the rule that doesn’t allow both teams to restructure with players before/ after the trade.
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Such restructuring would involve the players being paid less guaranteed money. Since Kelly, DMac, McClain and Seymour are nothing more than check-cashers, no way do they accept that kind of deal.
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Is that a fact?
TK and Seymour already restructured to stay here, so I doubt they will refuse to Restructure AGAIN to play for another team.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Murphy was one of the only guys on this roster who cared about winning. Too many drops but he maid plays and blocked with ferocity.
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Louis Murphy has 13 catches this year with the Panthers. That would put him 9th on our team, and 5th amongst our wideouts (and Criner may well catch up to him this weekend). I’m glad Reggie was able to get something of value for him.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Fùcking rebuild mode again! Fùck!!!!!! And the idiots didn’t even plan for it.. they chased dumb shìt playoff pipe dreams instead.. dumb monkeys!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Marks hair Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Fùcking rebuild mode again! Fùck!!!!!! And the idiots didn’t even plan for it.. they chased dumb shìt playoff pipe dreams instead.. dumb monkeys!!
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How do you arrive at that conclusion?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Should we just cut 53 players, an entire coaching staff and a front office?
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Yes
Bring on an expansion team Oakland Raiders.
Send the clowns to LA and change their names.
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I still can’t believe someone said we an expansion team with cap issues.
You People…..
An expansion team that was 8-8 the last 2 seasons with 2 different coaching staffs.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 am
But DA and his staff are huge mistakes. Neither has shown any improvment at all.
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Has ANYBODY shown improvement??
Should we just cut 53 players, an entire coaching staff and a front office?
We got to keep someone!!!!
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Just Cut Baby
Pride & Poise = Cut & Gut
Keep Seabass and Condo, CUT everybody else, coaches & GM included. Start from square one. I would sign off on that.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
TK and Seymour already restructured to stay here, so I doubt they will refuse to Restructure AGAIN to play for another team.
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They restructured to shuffle the guaranteed money around, not to give it up. Any other team would want them to give it up, because they’re simply not worth their current or upcoming dollar amounts. Kelly, et al won’t do that. And why should they? Why should they leave money on the table because senile Al (RIP) opened his checkbook to the wrong players?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Reggie made the Raiders much weaker in one season.
Imagine how bad the Raiders will be after TWO seasons under Reggie????
I think the slogan for Reggie’s regime should be
IT CAN ALWAYS GET WORSE.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Dumb Turd* Monkeys!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Kelly needs to be cut, not restructured. He’s lazy, gets punked by one on one blocking and is only interested when it’s a passing down. Even then, he can’t beat his man anymore. Seymour i think just needs limited snaps and play more 3 technique. The D-Line should be Shaughnessy, Bryant, Houston, (Pass rusher?) with Seymour and Bilukidi rotating in
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
I might be a lot of things, but you can be sure I’m no troll, whatever that is. I know Kell has a list of “trolls” that come and go and cross-post here, and I’m glad that someone has finally stepped in to stop all of the cowardly race baiting that goes on in here.
As I said, I’ve been posting in Raiders message boards and blogs since day one, many years ago. All I can say for myself is what a waste of life, but hey it’s the life I chose, this is from a multiple-decade Raider fan who lives in SoCal “enemy” territory, with the scars to prove it.
So for some no-life to accuse me of being a troll that’s just ridiculous and stupid. Just as dumb to compare me with other posters. I have limited my posting to about 10 a week. But, hey there’s people here that I suppose have very little or no-life who post 10 times a minute, day and night. Go ahead and give yourself a pat in the back, no one else will.
Once again, not one who indulges in fantasy, there’s very little reason to be talking about the 2013 draft in November, that’s just a waste of life, suit yourselves.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
10 and 11 :Oh I like this scheme now I will run like a HOF player
12. Oh now I don’t like this scheme now I will revert back to my rookie year and go down on every kinda hand or feet contact , I will run outta bounds 2 yards short off the first down marker,
November 29th, 2012 at 10:14 am
F_uck continuity!
Hue was 1 and done, because of his ego.
Da should also be done, because he personally hand picked his schitty clown ass wannabe coaching staff.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I’m pretty sure we will go to the playoffs next year. The only reason things went down hill is because my dad gave my lucky metal raiders shield away that I made at work, thinking I could make a new one right away. That was when we were 7-4 last season. But I’m going to try to make a new one this weekend. Don’t worry fellas, as soon as I make another one we will start winning again. You’ll see, you’ll be sorry.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I still can’t believe someone said we an expansion team with cap issues.
You People…..
An expansion team that was 8-8 the last 2 seasons with 2 different coaching staffs.
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And went into the offseason with no Team President, no GM, no Scouting Director, no Player/Personnel Director, no Media Relations guy, and no functional DC. AND a team that had crippling cap issues because of those awful Al contracts (paying top 5 money to Stanford Routt and Kam Wimbley, for instance).
A full house-cleaning was required. Reggie’s in year one of a three-to-five-year plan.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
firereggienow.
ITCANALWAYSGETSWORSE!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Its just me and you chatting with monkeys raiderO.. teaching them to use twigs to dig for ants…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
McFadden is McClain of this O,always half adding everything if things aren’t going his way or if he doesn’t like the scheme
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seriously having a laugh at some dude posting as mcfadden20 writing this nonsense.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
This time we don’t have a choice to but to side with Reggie and DA if we want the Raiders to move forward. For years it’s been stooge-lackey coaches combined with prima donna players with fat contracts whining to Al and what good has resulted from that?
If we can all the coaches, have a huge roster turnover, how do we know where the deficiencies are? Players, coaches, schemes? Everyone is new/different AGAIN.
This winter, Reggie turns the roster over, DA and co get a fresh season to show their stuff. No excuses to hide behind. No slack coming from me next year.
Plus, let’s be honest with ourselves, name one guy on our current roster who is a must keep/we’ll never win without him category?
Nobody.
The fact that some people lament the parting of easily replaceable “links in the chain” like Hue Jackson, just shows how frustrated, upset and disappointed Raiders fans are.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Kelly needs to be cut, not restructured. He’s lazy, gets punked by one on one blocking and is only interested when it’s a passing down. Even then, he can’t beat his man anymore. Seymour i think just needs limited snaps and play more 3 technique. The D-Line should be Shaughnessy, Bryant, Houston, (Pass rusher?) with Seymour and Bilukidi rotating in
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And don’t forget that Tommy Kelly has, our supposed inside pass-rusher, has started every game this year and contributed exactly ZERO sacks.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
TK and Seymour already restructured to stay here, so I doubt they will refuse to Restructure AGAIN to play for another team.
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They restructured to shuffle the guaranteed money around, not to give it up. Any other team would want them to give it up, because they’re simply not worth their current or upcoming dollar amounts. Kelly, et al won’t do that. And why should they? Why should they leave money on the table because senile Al (RIP) opened his checkbook to the wrong players?
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Interesting. More assumptions from Duck.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am
You can’t just trade any one you want , Plus these guys are on decline teams would rather sign motivated street guy than this rich guys collecting checks
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Whats a Drexl? Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
McFadden is McClain of this O,always half adding everything if things aren’t going his way or if he doesn’t like the scheme
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seriously having a laugh at some dude posting as mcfadden20 writing this nonsense.
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Exactly
Thats what I said.
What up Drex?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Im not sure you guys get the truth of the matter.
No matter who the Owner/GM/Coach/Staff of this team was, the situation would still be the same.
Cap Hell, Lost draft picks, High paid old unproductive players.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I still can’t believe someone said we an expansion team with cap issues.
You People…..
An expansion team that was 8-8 the last 2 seasons with 2 different coaching staffs.
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And went into the offseason with no Team President, no GM, no Scouting Director, no Player/Personnel Director, no Media Relations guy, and no functional DC. AND a team that had crippling cap issues because of those awful Al contracts (paying top 5 money to Stanford Routt and Kam Wimbley, for instance).
A full house-cleaning was required. Reggie’s in year one of a three-to-five-year plan.
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10 & then?!?
That’s why the owner thought we were a POs team, and according to our GM we have enough talent to compete, but The great Duck is making assumptions again.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hue made it happen w/ a coaching staff Al put together.
DA hand picked his sorry ass wannabe coaching staff and led us to REGRESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ENTIRE TEAM)
November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Interesting. More assumptions from Duck.
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Just like your assumptions that teams were calling Reggie day and night, begging him to PLEASE trade Tommy “No Sacks” Kelly, Richard “5 Decent Snaps a Game” Seymour, Darren “Breathe On Me Wrong and I’ll Miss Five Games” McFadden and Rolando McChump, all currently WAY overpaid, for all these wonderful high draft picks.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:21 am
1209. Which part?.. The fact that we chased the playoffs which Reggie and DA both confirmed early and often this year? Or that this is a rebuild?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Reggie said this was not a rebuilding year in his PC, but Duck knows better.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Whats A Drexl? Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
McFadden is McClain of this O,always half adding everything if things aren’t going his way or if he doesn’t like the scheme
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seriously having a laugh at some dude posting as mcfadden20 writing this nonsense.
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So do you want me to fall in love with him just like everyone in here does , or Mistic who freaking fell in love with Pryor and can’t wait for him to start, fuk this , I want Raiders to succeed first,I could care less what player is leading them to it , I like McFadden when he’s playing like a star I don’t like him when he’s playing like sh1t, you can bet the idiot would have probably not gotten injured on that tackle near sideline if he was going full speed ,instead of thinking oh the defender won’t tackle me since I’m going out of bounds anyways
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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It is accurate.
He made the hirings.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
So it makes perfect business sense to announce to your fan base that you are going to re-build?
Get real.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Al Davis knew good coaches, his problem was dishing out the cash for legit coaches.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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It is accurate.
He made the hirings.
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He didnt hand pick them as you say.
Hand pick would mean you got the guy you wanted.
So yes, that was an innacurate statement.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I don’t know you guys would rather lose as long as one of your favorite player is on the team than win with some his replacement
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Interesting. More assumptions from Duck.
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Just like your assumptions that teams were calling Reggie day and night, begging him to PLEASE trade Tommy “No Sacks” Kelly, Richard “5 Decent Snaps a Game” Seymour, Darren “Breathe On Me Wrong and I’ll Miss Five Games” McFadden and Rolando McChump, all currently WAY overpaid, for all these wonderful high draft picks.
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I didn’t make any assumptions about trades. Making things up hurts your credibility. All I said is we should have tried. Trading a few players since this is a rebuilding year (according to you & others) makes sense to me.
Teams traded a 1st and 2nd for Doug Jolley and P Buchanon. We traded LM, but you are right, we can’t trade a PB DT or a 23 yo LB who was a top 10 pick? WTF was I thinking,
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
the question is who are they gonna fill the roster spot with? only one MLB on the team, and he’s barely been here, although he’s a vet. gotta have another one for the game, unless u go with burris there.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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I believe Tarver was DA’s fifth choice. His first four guys (Bill Johnson, Joe Vitt Jr, and two others I can’t remember) were all denied permission by their teams. It’s the same reason we had to hire four assistants with no NFL experience straight out of college.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
The truth of the matter is a lot depends on how the rest of the season plays out.
If the Raiders show any improvement at all Reggie, DA, and the entire staff will be back.
But if the Raiders completely tank down the stretch then Reggie will have to admit his mistake in firing Hue and scapegoat the entire coaching staff.
Reggie knows this will be his last GM job so he will stall for as long as possible with his five year plan.
Reggie is a fraud.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Honey Badger is 5′9, and can’t play man coverage.
Also think he will run a 4.5+ forty.
I don’t see him going higher than the 5th round, but who knows.
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He also goes about 162 lbs. Can you imagine him trying to stop Marshawn Lynch or Calvin Johnson? Good college player, not an NFL player.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
the question is who are they gonna fill the roster spot with? only one MLB on the team, and he’s barely been here, although he’s a vet. gotta have another one for the game, unless u go with burris there.
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I still say Reggie’s gonna look at signing Stupar off the Eagles’ PS. He knows the system and started at MLB for Linebacker U.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Duck is an excuse factory for this staff. I guess he thinks anyone is better than AL. (That’s an assumption).
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
1229.. the results could have been alot different.. firesale.. planed tank. Youth eval & developement all yr…. coaches that make players better…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
What was so awesome about Hues O down the stretch?? It scored its first points after trailing 34-0 in weeks 13 and 14
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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It is accurate.
He made the hirings.
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He didnt hand pick them as you say.
Hand pick would mean you got the guy you wanted.
So yes, that was an innacurate statement.
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So if he didn’t hand pick, then what did he do?
Foot pick it?
lol
C’mon man
Of all the coordiantors available, he brings in Knapp. a known failure!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
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Buddy Ryan was once asked why he predicted a division championship his first year with the Eagles, when the team was terrible. His response? “If I don’t think my players can win, who IS going to think that? Them?”
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
What was so awesome about Hues O down the stretch?? It scored its first points after trailing 34-0 in weeks 13 and 14
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So are you happy that Knapps O didn’t wait for the final games to trail by 30 before scoring? Nobody i think is saying Hue was perfect, but can’t deny he was better than these scrubs
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I don’t know you guys would rather lose as long as one of your favorite player is on the team than win with some his replacement
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A lot of these guys would rather see the Raiders lose than to go against ‘Al’s way’. The Al sycophants are like the Republicans who wanted nothing more than to see the President fail at the expense of the nation.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Marks hair Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
1229.. the results could have been alot different.. firesale.. planed tank. Youth eval & developement all yr…. coaches that make players better…
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You dont think this is a planned tank?? Come on..
Look at the moves. The cap restraints this team is in demand a tank.
Only way this team is getting any young talent on this team the next 2 years is thru the draft.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
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Rebuilding = bad ticket sales, but 3-8 is ok?
LOL
Are you still googling DA’s pictures?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
It was cable who freaking instilled confidence in this team , by winning games down the stretch when they didn’t had anything to play for , Hue took that confidence right out of the team after failing to win 2 games with everything on the line
November 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Duck is an excuse factory for this staff. I guess he thinks anyone is better than AL. (That’s an assumption).
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No, I’m not an “excuse factory” for this staff. I believe a number of assistants should rightfully be given their walking papers come January (starting with Hoffman, Pollack and Williams). But canning DA and Reggie would be a terrible move that would cement this franchise’s joke status for another decade, if not longer.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
The truth of the matter is a lot depends on how the rest of the season plays out.
If the Raiders show any improvement at all Reggie, DA, and the entire staff will be back.
But if the Raiders completely tank down the stretch then Reggie will have to admit his mistake in firing Hue and scapegoat the entire coaching staff.
Reggie knows this will be his last GM job so he will stall for as long as possible with his five year plan.
Reggie is a fraud.
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and u sir, are no doctor.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I didn’t call for Reggie to make an announcement about rebuilding.. but i expect him to do it in rebild a smart way…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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It is accurate.
He made the hirings.
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He didnt hand pick them as you say.
Hand pick would mean you got the guy you wanted.
So yes, that was an innacurate statement.
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So if he didn’t hand pick, then what did he do?
Foot pick it?
lol
C’mon man
Of all the coordiantors available, he brings in Knapp. a known failure!
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Please list all the coordinators that were available..
99% of them still are, for a reason.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
the question is who are they gonna fill the roster spot with? only one MLB on the team, and he’s barely been here, although he’s a vet. gotta have another one for the game, unless u go with burris there.
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I still say Reggie’s gonna look at signing Stupar off the Eagles’ PS. He knows the system and started at MLB for Linebacker U.
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that’s a interesting idea
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
My only complaint about Reggie is that he didn’t get rid of the dead weight before the season started. He should have realized we weren’t going to the playoffs. Maybe he did and just had hope that they had a chance in a weak division.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
What was so awesome about Hues O down the stretch?? It scored its first points after trailing 34-0 in weeks 13 and 14
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So are you happy that Knapps O didn’t wait for the final games to trail by 30 before scoring? Nobody i think is saying Hue was perfect, but can’t deny he was better than these scrubs
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Who freaking cares , if the guy couldn’t put up points with playoffs on the line , who fukin care I don’t hate Hue for what he did but I’m freaking tired of guys propping him up like he was 2nd coming of bill Walsh or something , and it wasn’t like the hue was scoring in 30s range , we saw what the O could do down the stretch , it wouldn’t have been any different this year
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Rebuilding = bad ticket sales, but 3-8 is ok?
LOL
Are you still googling DA’s pictures?
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Your smarter than that man, well I hope.
Why would you announce that you are giving up on the season at ANY point, let alone before it starts?… Please explain that.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
- and while I’d rather watch the offense from last year than this year’s abomination…..how come we always got shut down in the 2nd half?
- Al never wanted anyone to challenge his status and control. What kind of established coach would come and work for average to lame $, the owner is also the DC, players sign here for their “Retirement Contract”, the owner (allegedly) will call you at 330am to go over things.
- My personal take, I have no proof, but I bet a lot of the motivation behind trading Chucky was the fact that Al realized it was Chucky, not him, getting credit for the Raiders revival.
I loved Al, but c’mon.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
1245.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
The truth of the matter is a lot depends on how the rest of the season plays out.
If the Raiders show any improvement at all Reggie, DA, and the entire staff will be back.
But if the Raiders completely tank down the stretch then Reggie will have to admit his mistake in firing Hue and scapegoat the entire coaching staff.
Reggie knows this will be his last GM job so he will stall for as long as possible with his five year plan.
Reggie is a fraud.
And Im sure he’s collecting a welsfare check on the side.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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It is accurate.
He made the hirings.
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He didnt hand pick them as you say.
Hand pick would mean you got the guy you wanted.
So yes, that was an innacurate statement.
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So if he didn’t hand pick, then what did he do?
Foot pick it?
lol
C’mon man
Of all the coordiantors available, he brings in Knapp. a known failure!
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Please list all the coordinators that were available..
99% of them still are, for a reason.
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Its not my job, its DA’s job to do that.
He fked up!
Plain and simple!
Am I willing to possibly give him another shot?
I’ll leave that up to Reggie, but DA has got to cann his entire staff A.S.A.P!!!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I wish I lived in Jessie Jackson Jr.’s district so I could vote for Napolean Harris for congress.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
My only complaint about Reggie is that he didn’t get rid of the dead weight before the season started. He should have realized we weren’t going to the playoffs. Maybe he did and just had hope that they had a chance in a weak division.
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Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am
the raiders basically had to give mcclain another shot this season. new staff. new chance at developing him. but he just played worse. they probably even looked around to see if they could find a trade partner before the deadline. no one wants this punk. i doubt he gets claimed or even picked up.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am
No on a planed tank you firesale everything… dmac
And you play the project qb..
November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am
1264.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
My only complaint about Reggie is that he didn’t get rid of the dead weight before the season started. He should have realized we weren’t going to the playoffs. Maybe he did and just had hope that they had a chance in a weak division.
Because he predicted playoffs just like you .
November 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I’m starting to worry that McClain hasn’t been cut.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thats not accurate.
Dennis Allen was repeatedly denied chances to hire coordinators.
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It is accurate.
He made the hirings.
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He didnt hand pick them as you say.
Hand pick would mean you got the guy you wanted.
So yes, that was an innacurate statement.
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So if he didn’t hand pick, then what did he do?
Foot pick it?
lol
C’mon man
Of all the coordiantors available, he brings in Knapp. a known failure!
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Please list all the coordinators that were available..
99% of them still are, for a reason.
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Its not my job, its DA’s job to do that.
He fked up!
Plain and simple!
Am I willing to possibly give him another shot?
I’ll leave that up to Reggie, but DA has got to cann his entire staff A.S.A.P!!!!!!!
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Irrational thinking man.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I’m starting to worry that McClain hasn’t been cut.
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ahh. the sign of a great player.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
If Reggie thought this roster could make the playoffs he should be fired IMMEDIATELY.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Who freaking cares , if the guy couldn’t put up points with playoffs on the line , who fukin care I don’t hate Hue for what he did but I’m freaking tired of guys propping him up like he was 2nd coming of bill Walsh or something , and it wasn’t like the hue was scoring in 30s range , we saw what the O could do down the stretch , it wouldn’t have been any different this year
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Hue is not our problem anymore, The new guys are. I just don’t like how these coaches are getting a pass for lack of talent when Hue getting blown out in the last two games was all his fault. Where’s Dennis Allens blame? He certainly deserves some. At the same time i’m tired of defending someone who isn’t here anymore, But Hue and Cable for all their deficiencies at least tried to make it work with what they were given. The current regieme seems content with wasting a year until everything is perfect for them.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Marks hair Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am
No on a planed tank you firesale everything… dmac
And you play the project qb..
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No, on a planned tank you dont firesale the young talent that you want to build around.
Thats stupid.
Come on.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
We should have the top pick
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
8-8 this 8-8 that sometimes I just think these guys are trolls , like wtf was so special about last years team besides scoring couple of more points and beating up on weak schedule , only beat Houston and that’s after every single member of the team played hearts out for Al Davis , you can bet they would have lost that too under normal circumstances , was lucky to not go 0-6 down the stretch , barely freaking best cutler less Chicago team , barely beat KC in Ot if Seymour hadn’t blocked Gw KC fg , our playoffs hopes would have died after KC game
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
you can’t banish Taiwan Jones because he’s not “perfect” but then have McClain come back after this?
I’m not quite sure what message that would send?….yikes.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
After the world watches bottom lips presser tomarro,we will be even bigger laughing stocks than we are now.DRIIIIIP da drip drip.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
So basically our team that Reggie inherited is like Peyton Manning’s neck. It is going to take multiple surgeries (seasons) to fix?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
This is Reggie’s version of $UCK FOR LUCK.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
The oddest, most completely retarded, pointless thing I have seen, maybe my whole time on this blog is the Dennis Allen man boob thing.====================
Think you have raiderman99 to thank for that. I always thought it a strange observation.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
So basically our team that Reggie inherited is like Peyton Manning’s neck. It is going to take multiple surgeries (seasons) to fix?
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Except nowhere near as good as Manning.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Lost in all of this is the very likely scenario, that Al Davis would have possibly fired Hue Jackson anyways, after an 8-8 season following an 8-8 season.
Unlikely, maybe, but certainly possible.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Ok, back…did not want to scroll through…too darn long…lol
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
8-8 this 8-8 that sometimes I just think these guys are trolls , like wtf was so special about last years team besides scoring couple of more points and beating up on weak schedule , only beat Houston and that’s after every single member of the team played hearts out for Al Davis , you can bet they would have lost that too under normal circumstances , was lucky to not go 0-6 down the stretch , barely freaking best cutler less Chicago team , barely beat KC in Ot if Seymour hadn’t blocked Gw KC fg , our playoffs hopes would have died after KC game
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In an honest answer, the games were at least fun to watch again after 10 years of humiliation. I don’t care how bad teams like the chiefs are, thumping them is always good. Breaking the losing streak to the Chargers is good. Setting a scoring record on the donkeys is good. These games are getting unbearable, and you can’t deny that.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
This is Reggie’s version of $UCK FOR LUCK.
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and u are this blog’s version of a broken record
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
This is Reggie’s version of $UCK FOR LUCK.
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Let’s Blow for Te’o
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am
1278.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
If Reggie thought this roster could make the playoffs he should be fired IMMEDIATELY.
He did. More than once,but you will never get the bottom lip suckers around here to talk about that!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am
1278.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
If Reggie thought this roster could make the playoffs he should be fired IMMEDIATELY.
He did. More than once,but you will never get the bottom lip suckers around here to talk about that!
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snore
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am
are reggiehater and dr. hunter gonna hook up or what?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
The season won’t hurt me so bad, if we can possible manage to succeed OPERATION NECK SNAPPER. I don’t give a fk if its a late hit. Just get it done and end the Donks super bowl dreams!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Reggies bottom lip is bigger than DA’s titts.Completely disgusting.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Who freaking cares , if the guy couldn’t put up points with playoffs on the line , who fukin care I don’t hate Hue for what he did but I’m freaking tired of guys propping him up like he was 2nd coming of bill Walsh or something , and it wasn’t like the hue was scoring in 30s range , we saw what the O could do down the stretch , it wouldn’t have been any different this year
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Hue is not our problem anymore, The new guys are. I just don’t like how these coaches are getting a pass for lack of talent when Hue getting blown out in the last two games was all his fault. Where’s Dennis Allens blame? He certainly deserves some. At the same time i’m tired of defending someone who isn’t here anymore, But Hue and Cable for all their deficiencies at least tried to make it work with what they were given. The current regieme seems content with wasting a year until everything is perfect for them.
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I’m not hating on hue all I’m saying is this team want that good and It just took advantage of beatable schedule, but these guys want to put him in HOF, I mean if you guys want to put Jim in HoF jus consider how the heck he ended the season ,we were like so close from going 0-6 down the stretch , again Hue was def creative n stuff but he wasn’t all that these guys think he was, and I’m telling you guys again Knapp sucks but it wouldn’t have mattered anyways who we had calling the plays , or who was freaking our DCO, we freaking finished last in nfl last year while we barely faced 5 top 15 Os last year these guys want to see improvements when we are facing top 15 Os week in and week out with worse pass rush
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Lost in all of this is the very likely scenario, that Al Davis would have possibly fired Hue Jackson anyways, after an 8-8 season following an 8-8 season.
Unlikely, maybe, but certainly possible.
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Except we wouldn’t have finished 8-8 last year with Al alive. Al would not have made the Palmer trade, so it would have been Boller and a greener-than-grass Pryor down the stretch, which means 4-12 and either Jim Fassel or Rob Ryan as our head coach right now.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Reggies bottom lip is bigger than DA’s titts.Completely disgusting.
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never noticed DA having tits, Knapp yes serious man boobs, but DA?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am
i think reggiehater and dr. hunter are gonna kiss.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 am
1297.DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
The season won’t hurt me so bad, if we can possible manage to succeed OPERATION NECK SNAPPER. I don’t give a fk if its a late hit. Just get it done and end the Donks super bowl dreams!!!!!
Im good with that.Thats raiderball.Now watch all the little punks say ohh you are a troll.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The problem we face now is Mark Davis is a 1st year Owner who hired a 1st year GM who hired a 1st year HC who hired a 1st year DC, all because they’re scared to have anyone question them on their 1st year on the job.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
It’s not just the record McFadden 20 it’s the glaring team wide regression.. this is the worst staff in the NFL.. I I just heard Adam Schein say Dennis Allen is the worst coach in the NFL. We are the leagues joke and we dont even get the top pick.. waste
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Mark, we have been the league joke even when we are winning…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The problem we face now is Mark Davis is a 1st year Owner who hired a 1st year GM who hired a 1st year HC who hired a 1st year DC, all because they’re scared to have anyone question them on their 1st year on the job.
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Our problem is they are scared to have anyone question them?…
That makes… basically no sense at all.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 am
1295.dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am
1278.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
If Reggie thought this roster could make the playoffs he should be fired IMMEDIATELY.
He did. More than once,but you will never get the bottom lip suckers around here to talk about that!
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snore
Hey,thats the exact noise your daughter makes when im done with her.Been meaning to talk to you about that.Give her some vitamins will ya?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Except we wouldn’t have finished 8-8 last year with Al alive. Al would not have made the Palmer trade, so it would have been Boller and a greener-than-grass Pryor down the stretch, which means 4-12 and either Jim Fassel or Rob Ryan as our head coach right now.
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Al maybe makes that trade because we were in position when JC went down. I just don’t think he gets hosed like Hue did. Also who knows if Hue becomes a better coach without having to worry about being a GM. But non of that matters now.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 am
it would not shock me to see the raiders pick geno smith.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 am
what did Hue do for me to like him
-he showed alot of emotion and passion
-talked about growing up a Raider fan understanding and giving credence to the Raider tradition
-had JC looking better than ever before evidenced by the games v Buff KC when he finally started taking chances down the field
-went back to power running realizing DMAC our start rb felt more comfortable running these plays
-our oline went from pathetic to top 5 in the league
-Our O was top ten in the league
what do you like about the defensive minded DA?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The problem we face now is Mark Davis is a 1st year Owner who hired a 1st year GM who hired a 1st year HC who hired a 1st year DC, all because they’re scared to have anyone question them on their 1st year on the jo
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C’mon you can’t be serious
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I trip on posts that talks about people’s daughters and stuff…how many of you are NOT parents?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 am
snore
Hey,thats the exact noise your daughter makes when im done with her.Been meaning to talk to you about that.Give her some vitamins will ya?
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so, u like little girls and ur boring in bed? wow.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Our O was 16th in scoring last year , last time i checked, just saying
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Why else would they all hire 1st year guys? You think they’d want someone with some experience to lean on
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I think a lot has to do with not being able to score in the second half for so many games!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
i think somebody pizzed in my kool-aide !!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
What’s up Mike?!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Rebuilding = bad ticket sales, but 3-8 is ok?
LOL
Are you still googling DA’s pictures?
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Your smarter than that man, well I hope.
Why would you announce that you are giving up on the season at ANY point, let alone before it starts?… Please explain that.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You don’t say we are going to rebuild and suck, but your actions will show that you are trying to rebuild. Like the colts last year. You don’t resign older PB vets, you release vet players with high salaries, etc….
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
1305.Marks hair Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
It’s not just the record McFadden 20 it’s the glaring team wide regression.. this is the worst staff in the NFL.. I I just heard Adam Schein say Dennis Allen is the worst coach in the NFL. We are the leagues joke and we dont even get the top pick.. waste
Dude,your waisting your time talking to that waterhead window licker.He prdicted the playoffs for christmas sake.DUHHHH.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Why else would they all hire 1st year guys? You think they’d want someone with some experience to lean on
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because they want to put their own stamp on their team and have their own vision, heck i freaking start over with the team when i play Madden13 lol, hiring veteran coaches and veteran GM’s doesn’t translate to more freaking wins
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Rebuilding = bad ticket sales, but 3-8 is ok?
LOL
Are you still googling DA’s pictures?
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Your smarter than that man, well I hope.
Why would you announce that you are giving up on the season at ANY point, let alone before it starts?… Please explain that.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You don’t say we are going to rebuild and suck, but your actions will show that you are trying to rebuild. Like the colts last year. You don’t resign older PB vets, you release vet players with high salaries, etc….
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WE…..COULDNT…..MAKE…..ANY……MOVES…..
Holy crap man.
The high paid guys we have couldnt be cut, there would be no savings and no ability to sign players to replace them, or massive cap hits…….
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Marks hair Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
It’s not just the record McFadden 20 it’s the glaring team wide regression.. this is the worst staff in the NFL.. I I just heard Adam Schein say Dennis Allen is the worst coach in the NFL. We are the leagues joke and we dont even get the top pick.. waste
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You are talking to a wall, he will call you stupid bring up last years schedule, talk about the lousy defense, and give these bums a pass.
I am absolutely disgusted with this entire coaching staff, unbearable to watch the product they put on the field, why anyone would argue that fact is beyond me.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 am
hey whats up Hwnrdr
and Mr. Vice Prez… how the he11 are you guys ??
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 am
WE…..COULDNT…..MAKE…..ANY……MOVES…..
Holy crap man.
The high paid guys we have couldnt be cut, there would be no savings and no ability to sign players to replace them, or massive cap hits…….
Because the gm is like raiderduck at night.worthless.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Doing good Mike…doing good!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 am
a lot of people here don’t understand football.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 am
ODB is in da muth f_uckin house!!!!!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Hey Cork,try not to trip on Reggies bottom lip tomarro.His hair drips are a hazzard also.Lawsuit .
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You guys are so stupid , i admit we have regressed on O by coaching, why can’t you guys admit we didn’t have talent to begin with on D and actually gotten worse in pass rushing talent with KELL AND SEYMOUR adding more mileage on their tires and Shaugnessy replacing Wimbley, and why can’t you admit we would have still lost against good teams even if Hue hand 22 PPG O was still here ?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 am
and his 22ppg^^***
November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Its about winning games & making money.
If you think a new GM is going to announce that they are re-building in his first year, basically cementing bad ticket sales, then you are somewhat of a idiot.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Rebuilding = bad ticket sales, but 3-8 is ok?
LOL
Are you still googling DA’s pictures?
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Your smarter than that man, well I hope.
Why would you announce that you are giving up on the season at ANY point, let alone before it starts?… Please explain that.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You don’t say we are going to rebuild and suck, but your actions will show that you are trying to rebuild. Like the colts last year. You don’t resign older PB vets, you release vet players with high salaries, etc….
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WE…..COULDNT…..MAKE…..ANY……MOVES…..
Holy crap man.
The high paid guys we have couldnt be cut, there would be no savings and no ability to sign players to replace them, or massive cap hits…….
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
OMG!!!!
Are you serious?
McClain: $900+ K
TK & Seymoyr: restructured
Lechler: I wanted us to release him $5.65 million cap hit
Rebuilding was not the objective.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Practice about to start….Maybe Cork will tweet some news..
November 29th, 2012 at 11:05 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I think a lot has to do with not being able to score in the second half for so many games!
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out coached!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Any weather updates out in Oakland? I hear there’s going to be a downpour around kickoff. An “atmospheric river” or some kind of monsoon. Oakland homers, is it that bad?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am
1329.dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 am
a lot of people here don’t understand football.
And you are certainly one of them little man
November 29th, 2012 at 11:07 am
DMAC !!
Whats the good word today Mr.President ??
November 29th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Remind me again which top O team did we beat last year? uh Houston ? that’s about it ? you guys really believe if Hue was here we would have beaten all these good O’s we faced this year? with the D we have, get over him already, we would get better OC next year because REg and DA would have more options, instead of just going with retreads because there was no one good available by the time DA was hired
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Any weather updates out in Oakland? I hear there’s going to be a downpour around kickoff. An “atmospheric river” or some kind of monsoon. Oakland homers, is it that bad?
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I always enjoyed a good “Mud Bowl”.
I remember Fargas plodding along and smashing through KC defenders in a muddy mess. Plus the Raiders kocked off a hot Houston team a few years ago in the mud. I think it works well for us.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 am
LOL! Some guys on a radio show in Dallas are asking fans to tweet their thoughts on Rolando being a Cowboy to #daylightpistolwhipper. They just heard about the incident from a year ago.
That’s how worthless Rolando is. People don’t know sh!t about him around the rest of the league because he’s a non-factor on the field.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 am
But the D needs some players on that side
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am
ODB,
Where erre you man?
They pi$$ed in my Kool aid when they hired Knapp.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Mcfadden20 has to be Reggie bottom lip or his twin brother.Dumber than a sack of hammers.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
#Raiders practice starts in 10 minutes. We should be know the official status of Rolando McClain shortly.
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November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am
If that idiot is on the practice field today, I’m going to be pissed.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Mcfadden20 has to be Reggie bottom lip or his twin brother.Dumber than a sack of hammers.
000 STFU YOU POS YOU HAVE NOTHING TO ADD BESIDES GOING ON WITH YOUR NAME CALLING ?????
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggie owes me $200.00 refund on the nfl ticket.I better get it or else!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am
If that idiot is on the practice field today, I’m going to be pissed.
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Me too
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
What’s especially hilarious about Oakfoshow’s meltdowns are his pathetic attempts to convince us he’s anything other than a pimply-faced teenager who’s skipping school. AGAIN. Probably flunking Home Room.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggie owes me $200.00 refund on the nfl ticket.I better get it or else!
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STFU you’re a troll, you don’t watch Raiders
November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggie owes me $200.00 refund on the nfl ticket.I better get it or else!
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Or else WHAT??? Wait, let me guess: You’re going to come on here and type “DRIPPY LIP” a lot of times. Yeah! That’ll REALLY show him, won’t it?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
What’s especially hilarious about Oakfoshow’s meltdowns are his pathetic attempts to convince us he’s anything other than a pimply-faced teenager who’s skipping school. AGAIN. Probably flunking Home Room.
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You could be 100% correct
November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 am
I wonder what are idiot dumb fk coaches are doing right about now?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 am
1348.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Mcfadden20 has to be Reggie bottom lip or his twin brother.Dumber than a sack of hammers.
000 STFU YOU POS YOU HAVE NOTHING TO ADD BESIDES GOING ON WITH YOUR NAME CALLING ?????
You predicted playoffs.I said 4-12.That justifies all kinds of name calling.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
And…no sign of #RolandoMcClain at #raiders practice
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November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggie owes me $200.00 refund on the nfl ticket.I better get it or else!
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Or else WHAT??? Wait, let me guess: You’re going to come on here and type “DRIPPY LIP” a lot of times. Yeah! That’ll REALLY show him, won’t it?
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LOL, what else can you expect from poor fella with fantasies of AL on his mind
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Has McWhiff been given his sack lunch, and one way Greyhound ticket out of town yet?…….
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Rolando McClain still is on the Raiders roster, but he is not at practice today.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You guys are so stupid ,
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and,,,, there it is. The football genius has passed it’s judgement.
THESE COACHES GET A PASS, YOU MOUTH BREATHERS! lmao!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 am
1348.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Mcfadden20 has to be Reggie bottom lip or his twin brother.Dumber than a sack of hammers.
000 STFU YOU POS YOU HAVE NOTHING TO ADD BESIDES GOING ON WITH YOUR NAME CALLING ?????
You predicted playoffs.I said 4-12.That justifies all kinds of name calling.
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You’re an idiot and not like we care if you call anyone name here, just shows your true self and who you’re a pimply faced teenager (LMA0) thanks DUck
November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am
that last game cost me a 1/2ounce,had to keep smokin to dull the pain !!!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Rolando McClain still is on the Raiders roster, but he is not at practice today.
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November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Any weather updates out in Oakland? I hear there’s going to be a downpour around kickoff. An “atmospheric river” or some kind of monsoon. Oakland homers, is it that bad?
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Probably won’t be bad for Trent Richardson.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Read it up again, I’m not giving Knapp a pass, just saying that no freaking coach in the history would have won games with this talent, unless we faced the same weak teams from last year
November 29th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Were*
November 29th, 2012 at 11:17 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You guys are so stupid ,
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Hue’s 22 PPG wouldn’t have mattered with the D we have, why the f8k you guys chose to ignore that sh1t , yeah but the games were competitive blah blah, ofcourse games against equal talent are always competitive lol
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You guys are so stupid , i admit we have regressed on O by coaching, why can’t you guys admit we didn’t have talent to begin with on D and actually gotten worse in pass rushing talent with KELL AND SEYMOUR adding more mileage on their tires and Shaugnessy replacing Wimbley, and why can’t you admit we would have still lost against good teams even if Hue hand 22 PPG O was still here ?
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I admit we don’t have Defensive talent. But last year the problem was supposedly the scheme Al ran and Chuck Bresnehan. Now it’s just the players? Problem is both. I’m happy if we can cut most of the Defense but won’t mean anything if these lame coaches are still here. In 3 years when they finally get their players and still suck, we start all over again.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:19 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Any weather updates out in Oakland? I hear there’s going to be a downpour around kickoff. An “atmospheric river” or some kind of monsoon. Oakland homers, is it that bad?
Hey Guest…2 years ago, it was pouring cats, dogs, and heck, even cows were coming donw…that was the game that Jacoby broke loose against KC! So, it may be a good thing!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I doubt we can get even a 7th round pick for McClain now that everyone knows we are willing to cut him.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am
a good coach get’s the most out of his talent.
Pittsburgh-Roth, Wallace hasn’t been wallace, Mendenhall not Mendenhall, polomalu out all year, d stars are not playing the same
Rams-Bradford is solid not special. Stephen Jackson is not the same. Amendola is the best receiver and he was out several games. great edge rusher in Long not much else
seattle- wilson is average, receivers are nothing special lynch is the only stud on O. secondary is stacked and they have a pass rush. oline sucks
Indianapolis-Andrew Luck, Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney and not much else
Washington-RGIII and not much else
Tampa-Freemans solid, Vjax a stud, Doug martins a stud no players of note on d except for ronde barber
Vikings- Peterson, Allen, Harvin, Kevin williams and not much else
I’d argue that none of these teams are much better than us talentwise yet are much better football teams than we are, coaching has to be blamed
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Hue’s 22 PPG wouldn’t have mattered with the D we have, why the f8k you guys chose to ignore that sh1t , yeah but the games were competitive blah blah, ofcourse games against equal talent are always competitive lol
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Problem we’re having now is games against equal talent aren’t competative. Why do you chose to ignore that?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The Raiders are inept in virtually every facet of the game, and the coaches get a pass?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggie owes me $200.00 refund on the nfl ticket.I better get it or else!
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Of course you werent smart enough to get it for free when they were at odds with Viacom.
Makes sense.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
909RaiderLifer Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Has McWhiff been given his sack lunch, and one way Greyhound ticket out of town yet?…….
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It’s beginning to look like there is some insubordination that might kick in, which might get the Raiders back some of the upfront money they paid this POS. But then McClains camp would file a grievance. Of course saying he is gone and going to a ‘real’ team certainly does not help his case. Looks like he should’ve just shut his big yap and left and this would be done by now. But when you are used to firing weapons off next to peoples melons, McClain does not seem to be someone who is prone to mature decent decision making.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I doubt we can get even a 7th round pick for McClain now that everyone knows we are willing to cut him.
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Well seeing how the trade deadline has passed, id say your spot on..
November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You guys are so stupid , i admit we have regressed on O by coaching, why can’t you guys admit we didn’t have talent to begin with on D and actually gotten worse in pass rushing talent with KELL AND SEYMOUR adding more mileage on their tires and Shaugnessy replacing Wimbley, and why can’t you admit we would have still lost against good teams even if Hue hand 22 PPG O was still here ?
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I admit we don’t have Defensive talent. But last year the problem was supposedly the scheme Al ran and Chuck Bresnehan. Now it’s just the players? Problem is both. I’m happy if we can cut most of the Defense but won’t mean anything if these lame coaches are still here. In 3 years when they finally get their players and still suck, we start all over again.
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How can you say it’s coaching’s fault? like do you think Houston and SHaugnessy are underperforming? should they have had more sacks? Seymour and Kelly should better pass rushers or equal to last year after adding 1 more year to their life and more mileage on their nfl career? the problem is we can’t get to QB’s, i don’t know why you guys think it’s coachings fault with the guys we have on the D line
November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The Raiders are inept in virtually every facet of the game, and the coaches get a pass?
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The assistants definitely shouldn’t. I’d look for at least 1/2 our current assistants to be looking for work come January (not that they’ll get any on the NFL level).
November 29th, 2012 at 11:24 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Read it up again, I’m not giving Knapp a pass, just saying that no freaking coach in the history would have won games with this talent, unless we faced the same weak teams from last year
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BS!!!!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The Raiders are inept in virtually every facet of the game, and the coaches get a pass?
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Don’t feel anybody gets a pass to be honest.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Hue’s 22 PPG wouldn’t have mattered with the D we have, why the f8k you guys chose to ignore that sh1t , yeah but the games were competitive blah blah, ofcourse games against equal talent are always competitive lol
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Problem we’re having now is games against equal talent aren’t competative. Why do you chose to ignore that?
— Are you kidding with me? we beat KC and Jax = equal talent, only lost to Miami and SD but we lost to them last year as well and those were games down the stretch when we really needed to win
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I admit we don’t have Defensive talent.
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no studs but Kelly has been one of the top pass rushing dt’s for years, Houston Bryant Burris Wheeler and Huff at CB have been solid
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Just look up all the teams we beat from last 2 years, only formidable opponent we beat was Houston out of all 16 wins
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
“I admit we don’t have Defensive talent. But last year the problem was supposedly the scheme Al ran and Chuck Bresnehan. Now it’s just the players? Problem is both. I’m happy if we can cut most of the Defense but won’t mean anything if these lame coaches are still here. In 3 years when they finally get their players and still suck, we start all over again.”
This is a good point….I recall Huff giving an interview during the preseason claiming brazenly now that the outdated Al Davis scheme is gone we should have a top 5 defense….WHAT HAPPENED to that magical scheme that was going top make everything better now that the old man is gone…..I will tell you “what happened” we still have crappy players and are very thin at every position that’s what happened!
This team needs a roster overhaul that was obvious for most of us to see but what it did NOT need was a dismantling of the O-Line or running game we had going for us last year.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DMAC, I feel your passion brother..
But meet me half ways man, you gotta see things for what they are.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
I admit we don’t have Defensive talent. But last year the problem was supposedly the scheme Al ran and Chuck Bresnehan. Now it’s just the players? Problem is both. I’m happy if we can cut most of the Defense but won’t mean anything if these lame coaches are still here. In 3 years when they finally get their players and still suck, we start all over again.
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Exactly
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Hue’s 22 PPG wouldn’t have mattered with the D we have, why the f8k you guys chose to ignore that sh1t , yeah but the games were competitive blah blah, ofcourse games against equal talent are always competitive lol
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Problem we’re having now is games against equal talent aren’t competative. Why do you chose to ignore that?
— Are you kidding with me? we beat KC and Jax = equal talent, only lost to Miami and SD but we lost to them last year as well and those were games down the stretch when we really needed to win
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Tampa, New Orleans, Cinncy are all mediocre teams. We got curb stomped by them. Barley came back to beat the Jags.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
After everything I went throught this offseasonu with you dumba$$es.All the Reggie is gonna save us,We are going to the playoffs,Rod Streater is our new #1 receiver.After i laughed at you day in and day out.All the abuse is justified.Now this offseason shut your big fat mouths and listen to somebody who knows football and we will start over.until than KISS MY A$$!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Cedric Benson, remember him?
Had surgery today. Season over and probably career over.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You guys are so stupid ,
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Its like talking to mystk.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DMAC, I feel your passion brother..
But meet me half ways man, you gotta see things for what they are.
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I feel you Deuece, but I don’t run the show, just like no one else does here.
I just tell it the way I see it.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I fully expect McClain to be a legit starting ILB in a 3-4 somewhere.
We used him wrong the whole time.
Doesnt excuse his motor or attitude though. But I can see his frustration.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Let’s put it this way:
The Raiders are inept in virtually every facet of the game, and the Head Coach get’s a pass?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I admit we don’t have Defensive talent.
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no studs but Kelly has been one of the top pass rushing dt’s for years, Houston Bryant Burris Wheeler and Huff at CB have been solid
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Kelly has been but he’s not anymore , it’s simple he’s getting near retirement age and he’s got more mileage on his body, Houston and bryant are not freaking pass rushers, Burris and wheeler are just guys who are average at best at their jobs , sure you can make an arguement they are better than previous linebackers but difference does it make when we’re playing in passing league and our Dline can’t get to QB’s ?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Hey Guest…2 years ago, it was pouring cats, dogs, and heck, even cows were coming donw…that was the game that Jacoby broke loose against KC! So, it may be a good thing!
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Hope so! Denarius has to get it going. He’s in a slump.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Inonewordraider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
no studs but Kelly has been one of the top pass rushing dt’s for years, Houston Bryant Burris Wheeler and Huff at CB have been solid
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Kelly has zero sacks this season and has been his usual worthless self vs. the run.
Houston and Bryant are OK role players, at best.
Burris has potential, but he’s not there yet.
Wheeler’s good.
Huff’s gone from being an average starting NFL safety to a slightly-above-average starting NFL corner.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DMAC, I feel your passion brother..
But meet me half ways man, you gotta see things for what they are.
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I feel you Deuece, but I don’t run the show, just like no one else does here.
I just tell it the way I see it.
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Amen brother.
I respect that you speak your mind and dont stoop to the level of others.
Always enjoy the debate with you.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am
How can you say it’s coaching’s fault? like do you think Houston and SHaugnessy are underperforming? should they have had more sacks? Seymour and Kelly should better pass rushers or equal to last year after adding 1 more year to their life and more mileage on their nfl career? the problem is we can’t get to QB’s, i don’t know why you guys think it’s coachings fault with the guys we have on the D line
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The blitzing and elimination of pure man covereage was supposed to be at least a slight improvement despite the lack of talent. I know Matt and Lamar aren’t legit talents, they’re good, but not stars. But still, how can it not be on the coaches when they call blitzes and everyone just runs into a blocker. They call zones but even the new guys are out of position.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am
O line = REGRESSED
D-line = REGRESSED
Secondary = REGRESSED
special teams = REGRESSED
running game = REGRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you guys need me to keep going………………..
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I fully expect McClain to be a legit starting ILB in a 3-4 somewhere.
We used him wrong the whole time.
Doesnt excuse his motor or attitude though. But I can see his frustration
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You would be wrong. He will get a tryout somewhere like Curry and last a few games and then it’s off to Arena football or slumming in deep Alabama with his boys.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Hue’s 22 PPG wouldn’t have mattered with the D we have, why the f8k you guys chose to ignore that sh1t , yeah but the games were competitive blah blah, ofcourse games against equal talent are always competitive lol
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Problem we’re having now is games against equal talent aren’t competative. Why do you chose to ignore that?
— Are you kidding with me? we beat KC and Jax = equal talent, only lost to Miami and SD but we lost to them last year as well and those were games down the stretch when we really needed to win
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Tampa, New Orleans, Cinncy are all mediocre teams. We got curb stomped by them. Barley came back to beat the Jags.
- Yeah ofcourse their record isn’t out of this world good but what I’m telling you guys is these teams have top passing O’s something we have struggled to stop for years
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
After everything I went throught this offseasonu with you dumba$$es.All the Reggie is gonna save us,We are going to the playoffs,Rod Streater is our new #1 receiver.After i laughed at you day in and day out.All the abuse is justified.Now this offseason shut your big fat mouths and listen to somebody who knows football and we will start over.until than KISS MY A$$!
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“Listen to somebody who knows football” — like you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
All you did the entire offseason was post “DRIPPY LIP” multiple times every day. Nothing more.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DMAC, I feel your passion brother..
But meet me half ways man, you gotta see things for what they are.
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I feel you Deuece, but I don’t run the show, just like no one else does here.
I just tell it the way I see it.
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Amen brother.
I respect that you speak your mind and dont stoop to the level of others.
Always enjoy the debate with you.
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Hey man
We’re all full of bservations and opinions on this blog.
Ain’t no one running schit here.
Final personal decisions are made by Reggie. He should know best. Its suppose to be his J.O.B
November 29th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Do you guys need me to keep going………………..
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you could easily keep going. Won’t hurt my feelings.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Although there a ton of Dennis Allen apologists. You know how I feel. Axe him!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
The Raiders need a winner like Elway to be the face of the franchise.
We are stuck with scrub like Reggie.
Winners attract winners, like Manning.
Scrubs attract scrubs.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am
How can you say it’s coaching’s fault? like do you think Houston and SHaugnessy are underperforming? should they have had more sacks? Seymour and Kelly should better pass rushers or equal to last year after adding 1 more year to their life and more mileage on their nfl career? the problem is we can’t get to QB’s, i don’t know why you guys think it’s coachings fault with the guys we have on the D line
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The blitzing and elimination of pure man covereage was supposed to be at least a slight improvement despite the lack of talent. I know Matt and Lamar aren’t legit talents, they’re good, but not stars. But still, how can it not be on the coaches when they call blitzes and everyone just runs into a blocker. They call zones but even the new guys are out of position.
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Well first of all Wheeler and Burris and these other guys are not known for their pass rushing and if they were , they would have been somewhere else, plus you still beat teams with natural pass rush, blitzing is only to confuse teams here and there and ofcourse people are going to look confused when QB’s have all freaking D to throw, CB’s can’t cover all day
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
1385.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Just look up all the teams we beat from last 2 years, only formidable opponent we beat was Houston out of all 16 wins
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Also, they were missing Andre Johnson….Not that he is in the same talent level of DHB.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
The Raiders need a winner like Elway to be the face of the franchise.
We are stuck with scrub like Reggie.
Winners attract winners, like Manning.
Scrubs attract scrubs.
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You have no sense of who Reggie McKenzie is if you believe that pile you just typed.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Last year it was the scheme and coaches fault, this year it’s just the players. What from this years coaching staff gives anyone any optimism going foward? Problem is BOTH, but they’re only getting one right by cutting D-Bags like McClain
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
IF (and it’s a big if, I’ll admit) the team feels like McClain has any trade value at all, what would prevent them from keeping him on the roster for the rest of the year and putting him on the reserve/suspended list or something like that?
Obviously not going to get a high pick, but might could get something out of the deal from a team that wanted to give him a shot and not lose out if he becomes a free agent (which he would, because his contract virtually assures no one will make a waiver claim).
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1376.DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Reggie owes me $200.00 refund on the nfl ticket.I better get it or else!
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Of course you werent smart enough to get it for free when they were at odds with Viacom.
Makes sense.
Another Reggie type welfare bum trying to get things for free.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am
O line = REGRESSED
D-line = REGRESSED
Secondary = REGRESSED
special teams = REGRESSED
running game = REGRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oline: lost best interior lineman
Dline: lost best interior lineman 4 weeks ago, and Shaughnessy has maxed out and not improved at all this year
Secondary: lost both starting corners
ST’s: yeah, ST’s have sucked ASS!
running Game: McFadden has been AWFUL! Not bad, AWFUL!
Is that Dennis Allen’s fault?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
The whole darn team regressed, since the ATL game! That was the best game we had all year and the only one where we actually showed up!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Hey I believe that you should work to get the things you want but if something is given for free, why not?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Our organization has been the model for instability and mayhem..
Thats changing.
And its gonna leave some casualties behind.
Hopefully they are some of the fans too.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
What does it say about the season that the best game we played this year we lost?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Reggie is judged on the pile he lays on the field.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am
1/2 of a right is better than 100% wrong at this point.
it’s a positive step in a dismal situation.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Raiders have struggled to stop good passing O’s for years , and you guys expect them to do better with this Dline, LMAO this isn’t NYG DLINE, LMAO at regression, ofcourse they are going to regress, no body on line is better pass rusher than Wimbley, and Kelly and Seymour are year closer to hanging em up
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Let’s put it this way:
The Raiders are inept in virtually every facet of the game, and the Head Coach get’s a pass?
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Did you see the 06 team? How’s about the 08 team? Last years team was not inept? Was Allen here in 07? Come on…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
DMAC Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am
O line = REGRESSED
D-line = REGRESSED
Secondary = REGRESSED
special teams = REGRESSED
running game = REGRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oline: lost best interior lineman
Dline: lost best interior lineman 4 weeks ago, and Shaughnessy has maxed out and not improved at all this year
Secondary: lost both starting corners
ST’s: yeah, ST’s have sucked ASS!
running Game: McFadden has been AWFUL! Not bad, AWFUL!
Is that Dennis Allen’s fault?
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yes
How do the players get a pass, but the coaching staff is not held accountable for anything???????????
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
What does it say about the season that the best game we played this year we lost?
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Some might take offense to that logic..
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I know right, Guest?
However, is Atlanta really an 10-1 team besides the record? But the point is that they are and find ways to win, even when they shouldn’t! I miss the Raiders of old that used to be able to do that, but…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Should be plenty of good seats available in Oo Coliseum for a mud war drenched field game against the Cleveland Brownstains.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 am
The whole darn team regressed, since the ATL game! That was the best game we had all year and the only one where we actually showed up!
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I wonder why??????????
Could it be the schitty ass staff finally prepared the troopers for battle?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
1385.mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Just look up all the teams we beat from last 2 years, only formidable opponent we beat was Houston out of all 16 wins
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Also, they were missing Andre Johnson….Not that he is in the same talent level of DHB.
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Yeah and we still barely beat them after we played hearts out for our owner who passed a couple of days ago , if it was the Pats and robert kraft passed away they would have blown away Houston
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
What does it say about the season that the best game we played this year we lost?
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It’s wierd that I had the most hope after the Atlanta game……But I was completely deflated, dumbfounded, and defeated after that Tampa display…. I think everything went down hill in a hurry after that. There was no coming back after that tail spin.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Our organization has been the model for instability and mayhem..
Thats changing.
And its gonna leave some casualties behind.
Hopefully they are some of the fans too.
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As much as I hate to say it, I would love for some of the fans to go too. They are just the bleacher sitting version of McClain.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Why does coaching staff always have to be held accountable, haven’t we been holding them accountable for the last 20 years?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Reggie’s turd is the least competitive team in football.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Let’s put it this way:
The Raiders are inept in virtually every facet of the game, and the Head Coach get’s a pass?
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Did you see the 06 team? How’s about the 08 team? Last years team was not inept? Was Allen here in 07? Come on…
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I’ve seen every game of the last 48 yrs.
Did Art Shell get a pass?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Well first of all Wheeler and Burris and these other guys are not known for their pass rushing and if they were , they would have been somewhere else, plus you still beat teams with natural pass rush, blitzing is only to confuse teams here and there and ofcourse people are going to look confused when QB’s have all freaking D to throw, CB’s can’t cover all day
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Well Burris was a decent pass rusher at SD state, but he’s not elite or he would’ve went higher. But that’s beside the point. Point is, we have new corners, new LB’s to play in the zone but still horrible pass coveregae = Poor coaching. I understand not having a pass rush affects it but to see absolutley no signs of improvment is not just lack of pass rushers.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I hate to break it to you hard core debaters in here but your BOTH right!
Its a roster void of talent at every level and so thin to the point where our second string guys would not even make the practice squad for other teams.
Its also coaching because we have all seen what a guy like Harbaugh can do in one year and change the attitude of a team. Yes thy have talent but Harbaugh gets more out of his talent than Singletary did I think that’s obvious.
So its BOTH lack of talent and poor coaching combined with a rookie owner and a rookie GM what else did we expect really…….I myself blame Palmer for all of this!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
What does it say about the season that the best game we played this year we lost?
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Some might take offense to that logic..
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Any who would be so sensitive to take offense to that is an enemy of logic.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 am
LOL, well Kraft’s wife passed and they all wore her patch and dedicated the season to her…I had a feeling they would make it to the dance, but…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Last years team was not inept?
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Hell no.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
What does it say about the season that the best game we played this year we lost?
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Some might take offense to that logic..
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Any who would be so sensitive to take offense to that is an enemy of logic.
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Preaching to the choir…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 am
How do the players get a pass, but the coaching staff is not held accountable for anything???????????
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Who’s giving the players a pass? McClain needed to go. Mike Mitchell needs to go. Brisiel gets routinely THROWN into Palmer. He needs to go. We are getting zero pass rush. Somebody needs to go.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Our organization has been the model for instability and mayhem..
Thats changing.
And its gonna leave some casualties behind.
Hopefully they are some of the fans too.
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As much as I hate to say it, I would love for some of the fans to go too. They are just the bleacher sitting version of McClain.
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Why should fans leave?
Everyone is entitled to speak their mind. You don’t like the fans? Then you should go across the water and eat cheese w/ wine.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 am
So its BOTH lack of talent and poor coaching combined with a rookie owner and a rookie GM what else did we expect really…
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A perfect storm. Stormclouds were there all along but we didn’t see the signs. Time to rip the blinders off!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:44 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Well first of all Wheeler and Burris and these other guys are not known for their pass rushing and if they were , they would have been somewhere else, plus you still beat teams with natural pass rush, blitzing is only to confuse teams here and there and ofcourse people are going to look confused when QB’s have all freaking D to throw, CB’s can’t cover all day
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Well Burris was a decent pass rusher at SD state, but he’s not elite or he would’ve went higher. But that’s beside the point. Point is, we have new corners, new LB’s to play in the zone but still horrible pass coveregae = Poor coaching. I understand not having a pass rush affects it but to see absolutley no signs of improvment is not just lack of pass rushers.
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What improvement do you want to see from this DLINE?they are who they are, they ain’t going to magically coached into HOF players mid-season, do me a favor go ahead and watch the Freeman to Vjax 66 yard pass, it’s a freakin 3rd and 15 play , and we weren’t even near the vicinity of Freeman when he made that pass, on a freaking obvious pass play
November 29th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Dammmm, DMAC cutting loose these last couple of days! Hey bro…I don’t blame ya!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:47 am
guest123 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Should be plenty of good seats available in Oo Coliseum for a mud war drenched field game against the Cleveland Brownstains.
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Pro tip: lower level section 110 row 28 and up, gets you under the second tier, stay nice and dry, but wear a thick parka.
Bonus tip: right below the sierra nevada beer booth.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 am
What improvement do you want to see from this DLINE?they are who they are, they ain’t going to magically coached into HOF players mid-season, do me a favor go ahead and watch the Freeman to Vjax 66 yard pass, it’s a freakin 3rd and 15 play , and we weren’t even near the vicinity of Freeman when he made that pass, on a freaking obvious pass play
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I want to see improvement from the LB’s ad DB’s. I know what to expect out of this D-Line already. I’m not giving them a pass, just like i wont give this coaching staff a pass. Fking up this bad is a group effort. Everyone in the Raiders organization has a hand in this debacle
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I dont get you losers…for all your lives all you ever wanted was a woman, and a Raider GM,…well forget that first one, totally out of reach,..however you finally get your GM,…ok and what hes doing is getting rid of the crap that dont make plays, only there to spread cancer and get paid,…thats what GM`s do,…old Al would have never cut that POS McLain,..and it needed to be done,..props to Reg,..hes not big dummy to me anymore,..all of you are though. Word up.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I hate to break it to you hard core debaters in here but your BOTH right!
Its a roster void of talent at every level and so thin to the point where our second string guys would not even make the practice squad for other teams.
Its also coaching because we have all seen what a guy like Harbaugh can do in one year and change the attitude of a team. Yes thy have talent but Harbaugh gets more out of his talent than Singletary did I think that’s obvious.
So its BOTH lack of talent and poor coaching combined with a rookie owner and a rookie GM what else did we expect really…….I myself blame Palmer for all of this!
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O is lot easier to coach up , on D you can’t coach average Dline to good pass rushers, we know coaching can make a lot of difference on O side, that’s why premium is placed on Pass rushers, now it’s the 2nd most wanted position in the nfl behind QB, the D Niners D was great with M Singletary and Nolan, but since they were D coaches they didn’t know what to do with the O, comes in Offensive coach, who asked his qb to play mistake free football and here they are
November 29th, 2012 at 11:52 am
“I haven’t talked to him about it yet,” Pryor said. “I heard about it, but I haven’t heard it personally, firsthand.”= — pyror on allen designating a role for him
This is another example of god awful mismanagement of talent or personnel. I can see why some question Allen’s head coaching potential, and his ability to relate to players.
Why not engage in direct conversation with pyor? tell the young man that has worked his tail off in service to the team and the allen the coach what you have outlined for him! If you dont have anything lined up for him then tell him that directly?
This is why people dont respect allen in the locker room apparently. he has the bill callahan disease, and players have to find out what is in there future through media speculation and interviews?!?!
How can pryor mentally prepare for what ever role he is designated for without having advance knowledge of what is expected?
Leaving a young hungry qb dangling in the wind is unfair and lacks professionalism, and shows a lack of respect for the players.
This game in Cleveland will be very telling as far as allen is concerned. Throwing romac off the practice field may have been warranted but it could also cause players to roll there eyes. Did he engage romac directly about issues before the incident?
If players come out sunday and look flat or disinterested it will be proof allen has no allies in the locker room and every head coach needs them.
Hu jack had JC and Seymour
Gruden had gannon and brown
Who in that locker room stands with allen, or has he simply alienated his players until they ave tuned him out?
pryor is number three, but has not been informed by the coach if he will be active or not!!!
How can pryor or any payer respect him?
I am looking forward to sunday, this will tell me, you, big mack and davis everything we need to know about allen.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Tougher schedule this year than the last two
DA has made some good moves:
adding some power blocking
moving huff to cb
Hanson has improved
Huff has improved
oline has improved from the beginning of the year
reece has been utilized more
meyers has improved and been utilized more
more exotic blitzes
reducing Mcclains role
I just don’t see the fight and that can’t be measured in statistics
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Mistic,
These guys may WANT to quit on Allen, but they have to be careful if they hope to latch on with another team IF they get let go.
Other GM’s and coaches will see it if you quit and assume that’s what you might do if things don’t go well with them.
It is not on any players best interest to dog it at anytime..imo.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
All signs point to Rolando McClain being cut at 1. Raiders aren’t saying anything and Ro’s people blocking him from getting back on Facebook
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