Palmer nursing sore thumb, McFadden ready to give it a go
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, November 29th, 2012 at 3:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quarterback Carson Palmer was limited in practice today as a result of sore right thumb. This came as a bit of a surprise, given Palmer practiced full tilt the day before.
Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said Palmer hurt his thumb against the Bengals last Sunday. Even so, he is “100 percent confident” that Palmer will be ready to play this Sunday against the Browns.
Coach Dennis Allen didn’t sound as certain.
“He took all his reps (Wednesday),” Allen said. “Today, his thumb was a little sore. We limited his reps. He’s another one we’ll have to see as we go through the remainder of the week where he’s at.”
If Palmer can’t play or if he gets injured in the game, it will be Matt Leinart who takes over and not second-year player Terrelle Pryor, who is expected to be on the active roster for the first time in 12 games this season.
Leinart said he is eager to make his Raiders debut and play for the first time since he suffered a broken left collarbone. He received all the reps with the first-team offense Thursday.
“I’m super competitive and want to get on the field any way I can,” Leinart said. “I just love the game. So, with that being said, I just got to keep preparing, just keep studying like I have been because I’m still one play away from being in there. But, yeah, everyone wants to play, everyone wants to get on the field. That’s all I can really do is just control the way I work and prepare.”
Leinart is signed through the end of this season. He sounded like a guy that wouldn’t mind coming back to the Raiders.
“It’s awesome because there’s so much tradition here, there’s so many great players that have played here,” Leinart said. “Growing up, I was a Raiders fan, so it was silver and black, my family grew up being Raider fans. … It’s been an honor to play for the Raiders. I don’t know what’s going to happen next year but I love playing for this team.”
Leinart said fans need to be patient with what the Raiders are going through. He likes what he sees in Allen and general manger Reggie McKenzie and feels as if better times are coming.
“It’s a building process, step by step,” Leinart said. “I really think that it’s going to be a special place to be. When? You never know. You just keep building and building. But he’s got the right message for us, coach Allen. Guys have bought in, guys are working hard, guys are playing hard. We’re not getting the results on Sunday, but it’s a process.”
– Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson were limited in practice today for the second straight day.
Given they are returning from high-ankle sprains that forced them to miss the past three games, Knapp said he expects regular fullback Marcel Reece to be used primarily as a halfback Sunday against the Browns.
Knapp said it’s likely that McFadden and Goodson will need more time to get back into football shape. Therefore, if they play, they will be eased back in to the mix.
“There’s still a little work I have to do,” McFadden said. “But for the most part, I’m getting back to being me.”
McFadden said he isn’t sure what to expect once he gets back on the field.
“The only thing I can do is go out there and play football,” McFadden said. “I don’t know how it’s going to be. I’m just going to go out there and do what I do every down and play ball.”
– Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain and Browns rookie running back Trent Richardson were teammates at Alabama for one season.
Richardson said he is looking forward to seeing McClain again. Well, that’s not apt to happen now in light of McClain being excused from practice Wednesday and told not to show up for practice Thursday by coach Dennis Allen.
Therefore, the primary task Sunday of trying to slow down Richardson in the run game falls to McClain’s replacement, Omar Gaither. Richardson has rushed for 755 yards and six touchdowns in 11 games for the Browns.
Richardson said he grew up idolizing Raiders running back Darren McFadden and later idolized McClain after watching him play at Alabama.
“From what I see and from what I’ve been told, the Raiders have a good team, especially Rolando McClain,” Richardson said in a conference call with Bay Area media. “Obviously, I look up to him a lot. He was a captain for me at Alabama when I was a freshman. He was one of my idols I looked up to as a leader on the team.”
Richardson added that McClain has had a “good impact” in his three NFL seasons. It’s worth noting that coach Allen replaced McClain in the nickel package in favor of rookie Miles Burris earlier this season.
“A lot of people sleep on Rolando because I don’t think they give him (as) much media as Oakland should,” Richardson said. “At Alabama, he got a lot of media and stuff. He has had a good impact. Will it be more? Yes, it will be because that’s Rolando.
“I know how Rolando trains and how Rolando prepares for the games. But how I see it, it’s not all about Rolando. He has to get a lot more help. He has to get a lot more help from the defensive (standpoint) for him to be a good, successful player, and for the whole team to stand up.”
If so, it likely won’t be for the Raiders.
– When the Browns lost to the Raiders at the Coliseum last season it kicked off a losing skid away from Browns Stadium that stands at 12 games and counting. The Browns are 0-5 on the road so far this season.
When asked for a common theme in those losses, Browns coach Pat Shurmur said:
“Yeah, we’ve slept the night before in a hotel.”
He then added:
“I don’t know. The theme for me as this year has gone on is, we haven’t really been able to finish a game. Each game is a different story. We were behind in some and came back and went ahead and then lost. We were ahead and let them come back.
“The big thing for us is prepare yourself for the road venue whatever it is, crowd noise or what not, and then go play the game. If you overthink that … We lost a few games at home, too. If you overthink that, then now you start to build in you play differently if you play at 1 o’clock then 4 o’clock. That’s just not the way I want to do it.”
The Raiders aren’t much better. They are 1-5 on the road this season and they have lost their past nine games played in the Eastern Time Zone.
– Former Cal offensive lineman Mitchell Schwartz has started all 11 games at offensive tackle for the Browns. He was their second-round pick in the 2012 NFL draft.
“He’s done a nice job for us,” Shurmur said. “He’s kind of established himself as a guy, he doesn’t say much but he goes out and he battles. Even our older players will tell you, he’s one of the most studious and the smartest of our guys up front. He’s making good progress. If he stays on track here, he has a chance to be a good player in this league for a long time.”
– McFadden went down with a high-ankle sprain after 170 touches in eight games this season. Richardson is still going strong after 250 rushes and receptions through 11 games.
He said he hasn’t hit the so-called wall that typically undoes many rookies accustomed to playing 12 or 13 games in college.
Richardson said he can handle whatever workload the Browns throw his way.
“Oh, yeah, I’m comfortable with it,” Richardson said. “That’s what they brought me here for, why they traded up for me. That’s what I train hard for. That’s one thing I do. I train hard, so I can get prepared every week for 22 carries or more. Whatever they have in store for me, I’m here for it.”
– The Browns have been in almost every game this season. Like the Raiders, they are struggling to find a way to win the close games.
Richardson came from an Alabama program that won most, if not all, of its game on an annual basis. He said he knows the key to winning games.
“Oh, yeah, you got to start fast, man, you got to finish strong,” Richardson said. “That’s something that coach (Nick) Saban always stressed, finish strong. Being in more condition, being more disciplined. That goes along with it. You got to man up and be more disciplined than the other team and make sure you do everything you can to make the play.”
So, there you have it. The cat is out of the bag.
– The Raiders-Browns game failed to sell enough tickets — at least 85 percent — to avoid a blackout locally. That snapped the string of consecutive games televised locally at 13, dating to the start of the 2011 season.
Allen said it’s incumbent upon the Raiders to play better, win more games and give the fans reason to attend games.
“I’m disappointed in that,” Allen said, “but the only way we can change that is to go out and try to get a win against Cleveland and then hopefully we won’t have to worry about that at any time in the future.”
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November 29th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Dysfunction function, that’s how the raiders function. Lol Haha it’d be funny if the raiders haven’t released McClain because it was DA’s idea to waive him but Mark stepped in like, wait DA’s not gonna be here at the season and vetoed it. Lol Why else keep McClain after all of this? May be a sign DA is on his way out.
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If he did I would definitely say there is HOPE for Mark Davis.
I hate this management stafff coaches the entire crew. Get them the hell outta Oakland Now.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
What about Seymour? Why wasn’t he at practice?
November 29th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
If McClain doesn’t want to be here and every indications says he doesn’t, get rid of him. They are only waiting to figure out the money. They smartly don’t want to be on the hook for all that money next year.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
– The Raiders-Browns game failed to sell enough tickets — at least 85 percent — to avoid a blackout locally. That snapped the string of consecutive games televised locally at 13, dating to the start of the 2011 season.
Allen said it’s incumbent upon the Raiders to play better, win more games and give the fans reason to attend games.
“I’m disappointed in that,” Allen said, “but the only way we can change that is to go out and try to get a win against Cleveland and then hopefully we won’t have to worry about that at any time in the future.”
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How bout doing this from day 1 dumbell maybe this game would be sold out seats filled. There’s only one problem you don’t have a clue how to get that done.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Trent Richardson is going to pissed about McClain and kick our ass. 200 yards rushing.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
How bout coach better and stop scapegoating players.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Going to be a sloppy mess this sunday. Think we win this one. McFadden and reece going to be to much for the browns. d steps it up too.
Raiders 24
browns 17
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
needs
DE-young fa’s avail avril johnson
MlB-young fa’s avail maualuga
NT-young fa’s avail knighton
CB-young fa’s avail rogers-cromartie
#1 WR- young fa’s avail jennings wallace bowe
FS (if huff stays at cb)-young avail fa’s byrd delmas landry goldson moore
c if you move wiz to lg or lg if you keep wiz as is=draft
so who would you go after in FA, and what positions do you draft for?
November 29th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Reports say McClain threatened Dennis Allen by telling him he’d be waiting to beat him up in the parking lot. Luckily for DA, McClain was waiting in the wrong parking lot
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Then he realized he was in the wrong parking lot. So he jogged to the correct one, just in time to see DA’s tail lights.
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Now he’s busy thinking up other fictional dead relatives so he can go home next week…
November 29th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
What football shape? They’ve only missed 3 games
November 29th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
At Alabama, he got a lot of media and stuff.
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Gotta love that SEC education
November 29th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Dysfunction function, that’s how the raiders function. Lol Haha it’d be funny if the raiders haven’t released McClain because it was DA’s idea to waive him but Mark stepped in like, wait DA’s not gonna be here at the season and vetoed it. Lol Why else keep McClain after all of this? May be a sign DA is on his way out.
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If he did I would definitely say there is HOPE for Mark Davis.
I hate this management stafff coaches the entire crew. Get them the hell outta Oakland Now.
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Lol. If you really want all them out of Oakland together, I’m sure they’d be glad to leave the A’s baseball field when opportunity arises.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
How bout coach better and stop scapegoating players.
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Typical Al Davis kiss ass.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I wonder how many others on that Defense Rolando was cursing for?
November 29th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
DA definitely didn’t get his way immediately…….now he’s pisssin and moaning like a 15 year old girl.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
I think ROLANDO shoved DA.. or told him to STFU and Foff. something to that effect. I wouldnt be suprised if Rolando put handz on DA.
Either way there should actual be some type of “REPORTERS” there doing some invistigating type work.
Dont just let the national media get the scoop.. cmon. I want the local beat writers to get some action. Cmon local beat writers.. dont let MIKE SILVER solve what happened
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
That’s the PC version of saying: Move over, we’re gonna give Pryor a look-see. You never know. But for what it’s worth, Pryor needs to be the #2. Leinart would seem to be lame duck status.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Leinart taking first team reps? Guess we may see TP this Sunday after all.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Hey Rolando,if your reading this.Bust that idiot’s a$$ for all Raider fans please! You might get a hitting a woman charge though.I mean,who could tell the differance.I’ll come bail you out.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
Now he’s busy thinking up other fictional dead relatives so he can go home next week…
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Funny, because I actually had that thought for a brief moment yesterday. It was a year ago this week that that sh!t went down in Decatur.
I thought, “Man, is there something about this time of year that he has to get home to Alabama and pistol whip people in broad daylight?”
Did he ask DA for time off to go home this week, and DA said, “No. Now go practice running.”
Surely not.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
will say this about Tyrann Mathieu. Raiders need playmakers in the worst way on D. Ya he smoked.. So did Randy Moss and Tim Lincecum. You just gotta tell him to chill on that ish.
Raiders brought in a bunch of Front office guys suppose to mentor these players. Reggie took a chance on Brandon Underwood who did 3x worse then Tyrann.
Ya he is 5ft 9 175 pounds.. but he could add 15 pounds to his frame. Brandon flowers is a pro bowl player and not that big.
JOSELIO HANSEN has been playing well for the Raiders. In two years of play Tyrann did it all. PUNT RETURNER, INTS, 11 forced fumbles and was a HEISMAN FINALIST.
Enough guys like Giordano, or COye francies, Philip adams crap.
Check out this ESPN pic on TYRANN PROOF
https://twitter.com/ESPNCFB/status/274251566851166208/photo/1
November 29th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
They should give Prior the #2 spot. That way they can use him in packages. If CP3 were to go down, then you can put in Leinart from the #3 spot and roll with him for the game.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Toddy Mcshay says Tyrann with be early 4th rounder or later 3rd. I can see someone like the lions using an early 3rd on him.
College football live said he was last weighin in at 177 in the spring practices. He can easily get to 190. No doubt he will bulk up.. He is not DVD gonna stay at the same weight. TYRANN is not afraid to tackle either.. he gonna be going at them ankles. He had no problem taking down Cam Newton when he was at Auburn
Joselio Hanson is 5ft 9 185 pounds. Dude has been a good player for the Raiders in the slot.
Crazy the refs didnt give him that play in the bengal game. Not to mention didnt everyone here love STERLING MOORE? the guy was 5ft 9 185 pounds and didnt have half the college career as Tyrann did.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I would bet there are many more who wanted to do what Rolando did than anyone would ever think. I’ve been saying it for weeks this team is demoralized.
They have had enough words and blame now they want the world to know what the hell is really goin on at Harbor Bay Parkway.
There must of been some more players who stood up for McClain that is the only reason they haven’[t waived yet IMHO.
November 29th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Allen says there will be concequences for his actions.Now he reminds me of the little girls on this blog.DAAAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAD
November 29th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Send that jacka$$ packing. Get him on the first plane back to the sticks.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
aint no one going to see your krapp DA…
November 29th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
He is a little girl you see it every week at his Monday pressers. No backbone no ownership no leadership it’s always the players fault.
These players need leadership they can believe in………..period
November 29th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I would bet there are many more who wanted to do what Rolando did than anyone would ever think. I’ve been saying it for weeks this team is demoralized.
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The coaching sucks, but it’s not like Rolando has been playing his heart out there. That guy picks more wrong holes than a blind porn star
November 29th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
No Blackouts under Hue Jackson.
Lol, just saying
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Raider stock on the decline after enjoying a brief rise in televised games. Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Who cares about McClain? It’s obvious that he’s not going to play for the team anymore either this season and for sure next. he’s not even a key guy and really never was. Just another bust. He’s quite nearly completed his irrelevancy.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
close games? what close games?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
You guys act like these players are kids and need speeches to put on their britches. What a joke.
I’m sorry I uses the word “players”. I should have used “guys”. We don’t have players.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I would bet there are many more who wanted to do what Rolando did than anyone would ever think. I’ve been saying it for weeks this team is demoralized.
They have had enough words and blame now they want the world to know what the hell is really goin on at Harbor Bay Parkway.
There must of been some more players who stood up for McClain that is the only reason they haven’[t waived yet IMHO.
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I can’t imagine the frustration of the players right now. Being force fed a scheme that does not fit the personel, or work, and no wonder they have a hard time playing inspired football. It’s just been a low down dirty rotten shame to say the least.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I thought they changed the rule about 3rd string qbs and now they can go in and out of the game without limitations?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
The honey badger was one of the best defensive players in college football during the 2011 season. He was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy and had a massive impact for the Tigers. Mathieu plays much bigger than his measurements, and anyone who watched LSU the past two seasons can’t help but see that he is a pure football player with off-the-charts instinct.
Mathieu led the Tigers in tackles last year with 76. The sophomore also had 7.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and nine passes broken up. LSU lined him up as an outside corner, slot corner and safety. He was very dangerous in the slot. Additionally, Mathieu served as a punt returner in 2011, averaging 16 yards per return with two brought back for touchdowns.
The 5-foot-9, 175-pounder was a dynamic playmaker for the Tigers since Day 1. As a freshman, Mathieu compiled 57 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, five forced fumbles, two interceptions, seven passes broken up and two interceptions. ”
Via walterfootball. I’ll leave it up to u guys if u would want him as a RAIDER
Seeing JOSELIO play this year makes me think he can do it. JOSELIO man’d up on that play against a 6ft 2 WR Sanu.. got the forced fumble too.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
With McClain out, Trent Richardson wont have that small piece of “respect/fear” in his mind about his “idol” tackling him. I sadly predict that he will have the best game of his rookie season against the Raiders defense.
Side note, I see my guy Matty L has become a full blown politician.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I would bet there are many more who wanted to do what Rolando did than anyone would ever think. I’ve been saying it for weeks this team is demoralized.
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The coaching sucks, but it’s not like Rolando has been playing his heart out there. That guy picks more wrong holes than a blind porn star
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I said it long ago this is Rolando’s and every player in defenses 3rd scheme in 3 years. And you guys want a well disciplined scheme well keep wishing. It takes years not months half that defenses was turned over. Yet they want Rolando to take all the blame. That kid is 23 y/o and 3 NFL systems since his rookie year. His freaking head is on a swivel. He doesn’t knwo the players around him a trust the system at a high level.
No ONE takes any of this into consideration for him just BLAME him. It aint fair but it is what it is, if i were him I would be begging to get the hell outta here………….period
November 29th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
“I’m gonna weigh my options. Looking forward to playing for an actual ‘team.’ ”
That last one raised some eyebrows among teammates, many of whom weren’t that close to the often-standoffish McClain in the first place.
McClain didn’t make enough plays on the field for a 3-8 team to worry about his absence, and the sense I get is the players just want to put the issue behind them. Whether it was something that happened Wednesday or just McClain himself.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Whoops, that above is from Vic Tarfur – SF Chronicle… here it is again….
“I’m gonna weigh my options. Looking forward to playing for an actual ‘team.’ ”
That last one raised some eyebrows among teammates, many of whom weren’t that close to the often-standoffish McClain in the first place.
McClain didn’t make enough plays on the field for a 3-8 team to worry about his absence, and the sense I get is the players just want to put the issue behind them. Whether it was something that happened Wednesday or just McClain himself.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Priest, you are a joke. Shut up.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Trent Richardson kinda sounds a bit foolish, considering the Mclain sh!t storm that has been swirling the last two days.
He sure likes him some RoMac.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Love the speculation here, feel like I’m on an acid trip.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
HueJax may have had a team that set records for penalties, but Allens team will trump that with records for futility. I’ll take HueJax team anyday.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Did Rolando corf DA?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Why is it Roloando’s 3rd scheme in 3 years? I thought ALL previous DCoords in Oakland/LA ran Al Davis’ D scheme?
Wouldn’t that make it 2 scheme’s in 3 yrs?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
How bout coach better and stop scapegoating players.
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po wittle wowando.
maybe if he didn’t suck so bad. scapegoat my azz. try “worst player on the defense”.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
At a time when the raiders are dealing with one cancer on the team in Slowlando mclazy some of you are advocating drafting a loser drug addict player who could not even make it at lsu?????
Dumbest fans in America!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
HueJax may have had a team that set records for penalties, but Allens team will trump that with records for futility. I’ll take HueJax team anyday.
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Hue Jackson’s team would beat the dog sh#t out of DA’s team.
And I wasnt even bent about Hue being fired.
DA is just a bum coach.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I said it long ago this is Rolando’s and every player in defenses 3rd scheme in 3 years. And you guys want a well disciplined scheme well keep wishing. It takes years not months half that defenses was turned over. Yet they want Rolando to take all the blame. That kid is 23 y/o and 3 NFL systems since his rookie year. His freaking head is on a swivel. He doesn’t knwo the players around him a trust the system at a high level.
No ONE takes any of this into consideration for him just BLAME him. It aint fair but it is what it is, if i were him I would be begging to get the hell outta here………….period
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I get the constant scheme changes hurt his development, but that doesn’t excuse him jogging after players. When Branch ran down Demaryius Thomas and forced a fumble, Lamar Houston, a DE, was right there to pick it up. Vs the Steelers when Brown fumbled 30 yards down field, Seymour and Wheeler were there. Bad coaching is no excuse for lack of hustle.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I would bet there are many more who wanted to do what Rolando did than anyone would ever think. I’ve been saying it for weeks this team is demoralized.
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The coaching sucks, but it’s not like Rolando has been playing his heart out there. That guy picks more wrong holes than a blind porn star
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I said it long ago this is Rolando’s and every player in defenses 3rd scheme in 3 years. And you guys want a well disciplined scheme well keep wishing. It takes years not months half that defenses was turned over. Yet they want Rolando to take all the blame. That kid is 23 y/o and 3 NFL systems since his rookie year. His freaking head is on a swivel. He doesn’t knwo the players around him a trust the system at a high level.
No ONE takes any of this into consideration for him just BLAME him. It aint fair but it is what it is, if i were him I would be begging to get the hell outta here………….period
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LOL! u talk about 3 different schemes in 3 years and u want a 4th one next year!
miles burris stepped in in year one and played FAR better than mcclain EVER has.
do u even think before u talk?
always “unfair” to cut any black guy, eh?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Why do I have a bad feeling that this Sunday we are going to be hearing DT Phil Taylors name all day? Oh thats right Mike Brisel’s still on starting in the new regime’s era of accountability.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I wonder how many others on that Defense Rolando was cursing for?
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It is interesting. My guess is more than a few.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Hubris’ version of the Raiders would score points against Allen’s version.
Still, Allen’s crop will be very similar to Hubris’ crop meaning both did not make the playoffs.
Don’t give me the 8-8 crap. That is mediocre, no matter how you slice it. And it wasn’t good enough to get the Raiders a winning season and a playoff berth.
Hubris and DA failed in their first year as HC to get Oakland to to the postseason.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Why the hell is anyone in here defending Rolando McClain? The guy has a 3 year track record. It’s gotten worse every year….
It’s not like he was Matt Millen or Greg Beikert or Mike Singletary or something. The guy has not played well, not been a leader and got himself almost thrown in jail being a dumass d0uche.
Are you defending his potential?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
i suppose the coaches are at fault becuase of their scheme when mcclain stands there and wrestles around with a lineman, as the ballcarrier runs right by him and he doesn’t even look at him. the dude is horrible.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
according to some idiots, players who play like sh!t aren’t culpable. it’s all “scheme” and the raiders’ inability to “develop” players.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
JLofty
Rolando McClain disgraced No. 55 in Oakland.
Millen made the number something to be respected.
Hell, free-agent signee Danny “The Hammer” Clark made No. 55 respectable in his tenure with the Raiders.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
JLofty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Why the hell is anyone in here defending Rolando McClain? The guy has a 3 year track record. It’s gotten worse every year….
It’s not like he was Matt Millen or Greg Beikert or Mike Singletary or something. The guy has not played well, not been a leader and got himself almost thrown in jail being a dumass d0uche.
Are you defending his potential?
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Al lackies.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I’ll co-sign that Jackasspuria.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
i will tell u one thing. if mcclain isn’t dumped after this mess, than something is wrong with this staff. or mark davis is f@cking it up. the dude is horrible and a cancer. get him the f@ck outta here!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Dakota, you should know better using big words like advocate. Much of your audience doesn’t REALLY know what that means…
November 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Morilla Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
JLofty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Why the hell is anyone in here defending Rolando McClain? The guy has a 3 year track record. It’s gotten worse every year….
It’s not like he was Matt Millen or Greg Beikert or Mike Singletary or something. The guy has not played well, not been a leader and got himself almost thrown in jail being a dumass d0uche.
Are you defending his potential?
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Al lackies.
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Priest is the biggest lackey of them all.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
does anyone think bill parcells would put up with mcclain?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
JLofty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Dakota, you should know better using big words like advocate. Much of your audience doesn’t REALLY know what that means…
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Advocate? Isn’t that what they guacamole out of?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Mclain is the biggest bum sinse Jamarcus,but I will be a lifetime fan after he woops DA’s a$$ like the little bich that he is.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I said it long ago this is Rolando’s and every player in defenses 3rd scheme in 3 years. And you guys want a well disciplined scheme well keep wishing. It takes years not months half that defenses was turned over. Yet they want Rolando to take all the blame. That kid is 23 y/o and 3 NFL systems since his rookie year. His freaking head is on a swivel. He doesn’t knwo the players around him a trust the system at a high level.
No ONE takes any of this into consideration for him just BLAME him. It aint fair but it is what it is, if i were him I would be begging to get the hell outta here………….period
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I get the constant scheme changes hurt his development, but that doesn’t excuse him jogging after players. When Branch ran down Demaryius Thomas and forced a fumble, Lamar Houston, a DE, was right there to pick it up. Vs the Steelers when Brown fumbled 30 yards down field, Seymour and Wheeler were there. Bad coaching is no excuse for lack of hustle.
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Both of you make very valid points.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
does anyone think bill parcells would put up with mcclain?
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Not with his production. If he was putting up sacks like lawarnce taylor then maybe.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Trent Richardson will run for 300 yards against this defense.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Did Rolando corf DA?
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nice
November 29th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This blog used to be legit. Recently, it’s just become a place for trolls… pathetic.
If you’re a Raider fan and have been around long enough to see the carousel of coaches that have come and gone, you should be rooting for some continuity. Everyone already wants to throw Reggie, DA, Knapp and Tarver under the bus and we’re not even a full season into it.
Pick an average team, how many of our starting 22 would be starters on that team? Let’s go Bengals, QB? RB – DMC, WR – nope, Linemen – Wiz? Veldheer? LBs – maybe Burris, DB’s – Branch?
This team is devoid of talent and depth.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
does anyone think bill parcells would put up with mcclain?
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No way in hell he would.
He only put up with TO because Jerry Jones was making him.
Al is long gone. There is nobody to go run and cry too anymore. DMC found that out the hard way. Rolando is now finding it out too.
Get on board, or get the fvck out.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Leinart?!? WTF This staff is horrible. Leinart = Loser
McLame got DA flustered, DA sent him to his room, McLame got all Facebook so now they don’t know what to do.
Had an opportunity to make a statement and get players to sit up and pay attention and now the message – if any – is muddled.
What a joke.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Trent Richardson will run for 300 yards against this defense.
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So what you’re saying is, RoMac being out really isn’t going to hurt us that much?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
I think ROLANDO shoved DA.. or told him to STFU and Foff. something to that effect. I wouldnt be suprised if Rolando put handz on DA.
Either way there should actual be some type of “REPORTERS” there doing some invistigating type work.
Dont just let the national media get the scoop.. cmon. I want the local beat
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You would think so.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Walrushooker Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This blog used to be legit. Recently, it’s just become a place for trolls… pathetic.
If you’re a Raider fan and have been around long enough to see the carousel of coaches that have come and gone, you should be rooting for some continuity. Everyone already wants to throw Reggie, DA, Knapp and Tarver under the bus and we’re not even a full season into it.
Pick an average team, how many of our starting 22 would be starters on that team? Let’s go Bengals, QB? RB – DMC, WR – nope, Linemen – Wiz? Veldheer? LBs – maybe Burris, DB’s – Branch?
This team is devoid of talent and depth.
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Every point you made was spot on.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Great now I have to look up what Corf means.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Say no to the Honey Badger. See Exhibit A, Cliff Harris.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Well we will find out shortly if the team is revolting, or if Rolando is a lone wolf.
He is being scapegoated, and The Reggie will probably piggy-back of that tomorrow.
They go out a lay a stinker at home against a last placed team, well there is your answer. Revolt.
They go out and win. There you have it, they support coach over #55.
The proverbial fork in the road.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Monte Pool:
McClain needs to go, and he will.
The Raiders have tried charming him. That didn’t work.
They have tried enabling him. That didn’t work.
They have tried counseling him. That didn’t work.
They have tried, just last month, demoting him. That didn’t work, either.
Nothing has solved the riddle of the overhyped, underproductive middle linebacker who was drafted eighth overall in 2010 to become the centerpiece of Oakland’s defense.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
close games? what close games?
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Distant memories my friend.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
http://twitter.com/Jerrymcd/status/270641713842905089
November 29th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
noun pl. corves
BRIT. a basket or small cart, as for carrying coal, ore, etc. in mines
Origin: ME < MDu & MLowG < L corbis, a basket: see corbeil
Or
A comprehensive outpatient rehabilitation center?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
It’s not just McLains poor play… But he’s been in trouble with the law more than once…. Not many in here would get away with the things McLain has….it’s past time he was held accountable….
November 29th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Walrushooker Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This blog used to be legit. Recently, it’s just become a place for trolls… pathetic.
If you’re a Raider fan and have been around long enough to see the carousel of coaches that have come and gone, you should be rooting for some continuity. Everyone already wants to throw Reggie, DA, Knapp and Tarver under the bus and we’re not even a full season into it.
Pick an average team, how many of our starting 22 would be starters on that team? Let’s go Bengals, QB? RB – DMC, WR – nope, Linemen – Wiz? Veldheer? LBs – maybe Burris, DB’s – Branch?
This team is devoid of talent and depth.
================================ You might want to move on than son.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
http://twitter.com/Jerrymcd/status/270641713842905089
this is for you dakota
November 29th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Facility I mean????
November 29th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Priest, you are a joke. Shut up.
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This is why I get into it with people here, I can’t stand a damned coward azzed bully. Never have.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Oh, interesting….I thought it was going to be something nasty. Lol
November 29th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
he used the term in a press conference while sporting a v-neck christmas sweater
November 29th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Walrushooker Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This blog used to be legit. Recently, it’s just become a place for trolls… pathetic.
If you’re a Raider fan and have been around long enough to see the carousel of coaches that have come and gone, you should be rooting for some continuity. Everyone already wants to throw Reggie, DA, Knapp and Tarver under the bus and we’re not even a full season into it.
Pick an average team, how many of our starting 22 would be starters on that team? Let’s go Bengals, QB? RB – DMC, WR – nope, Linemen – Wiz? Veldheer? LBs – maybe Burris, DB’s – Branch?
This team is devoid of talent and depth.
================================ You might want to move on than son.
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Searching for Troll number one status?
Than: comparisons
Then: timing
Grammar, give it a try.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Try an urban dictionary there Dakota. They do have those on the internet where you are correct?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
#79, was thinking the same thing. Be interesting to see how the team comes out playing.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Ok, so as fans, we all agree on a few things right?
QB – Im fine with the 3 we have. We have bigger needs.
RB – If we can trade DMC for a 2nd & a 4th, we pull the trigger
WR – We need a #1. A real #1.
OL – We need a C, RG, & RT in the worst way
DL – We need to retool the entire D-Line
LB – We need a impact MLB as this is still the worst unit on our team
DB – We need a FS, keep Huff as our #2 CB and get us a real #1 CB
ST – Swap King for Lechler
So here is what I propose is realistic this offseason…
CP3 restructures and gives Reggie some flexibility
Trade DMC
Restructure or trade DHB for a can of tuna
Get our #1 WR in free agency
Cut Briesel, Coop, & move Wiz back to LG
Draft a impact DE and MLB. We can get one more season out of our current DT’s. We have no choice, we cannot rebuild everything in one offseason.
Bring back Nnamdi to be our #1 CB and pair him with Huffy.
If Honey Badger is available late in the draft, we take him to make our #3 CB or possibly give us the flexibility to move Huff back to FS if absolutely needed. But I’d rather keep him at CB as I think he’s a better CB than FS.
Our early picks in the draft need to go on DE and MLB and/or a CB.
Our late picks need to go on lineman
Free agency needs to be spent on a #1 WR and brining Nnamdi back.
I think if we do all that, we’ll be improved for next year. What do y’all think?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Denise Allen is scared to death right now.Sooner than later there will be a nip slip out of HER bra.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Good evening Nation!
What’s the good word!?!?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Keith urban has a dictionary!
Cool!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Dakota Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Keith urban has a dictionary!
Cool!
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good one
November 29th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Denise Allen is scared to death right now.Sooner than later there will be a nip slip out of HER bra.
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oh schit comedy hour
November 29th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Tarver was asked if the guys on his defense just weren’t good enough. He didn’t say yes, but he didn’t no either.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Really damn near close to impossible to like McClain. And as complete trash as hes been here, hes just the type of @sshole to go elsewhere and play like a champ. However, most of myself thinks hes gonna p!ss his way out of the league. However, I would have paid a penny or two to see him rip DA’s head off.
But if theres teammates that feel like McClain, mixed with players that side with DA (stupid as that sh!t sounds, some players are “coach’s boys”), this is a very divided team. I said it last week, this is about to get a lot uglier before it gets any better.
Thanks Reg.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
i love how people are defending slolando and making sexist remarks about DA’s masculinity.
DA didn’t lose a fight and then go run to facebook to talk sh!t about it.
Nice hero to worship there you little girls.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I just hope that reggie has a plan for next year. Spend $$$ on free agents and stop shopping at the thrift discount store. It will be interesting to see what he talks about tomorrow. anyone know the time of the conference?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Ok, so as fans, we all agree on a few things right?
QB – Im fine with the 3 we have. We have bigger needs.
RB – If we can trade DMC for a 2nd & a 4th, we pull the trigger
WR – We need a #1. A real #1.
OL – We need a C, RG, & RT in the worst way
DL – We need to retool the entire D-Line
LB – We need a impact MLB as this is still the worst unit on our team
DB – We need a FS, keep Huff as our #2 CB and get us a real #1 CB
ST – Swap King for Lechler
So here is what I propose is realistic this offseason…
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I agree with everything but the King for Lechler swap. I just think Shane didn’t have enough time to recover from surgery and i’m not totally convince on King. He had some big punts but also quite a few line drives.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Well we will find out shortly if the team is revolting, or if Rolando is a lone wolf.
He is being scapegoated, and The Reggie will probably piggy-back of that tomorrow.
They go out a lay a stinker at home against a last placed team, well there is your answer. Revolt.
They go out and win. There you have it, they support coach over #55.
The proverbial fork in the road.
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If the team comes out flat again, cut the next bum the following week.
Keep axing guys until they get the message. It’s not like other teams are lining up for our players. When Rolando is calling up a former teammate to borrow money, word will travel fast in the locker room that life isnt greener on the other side.
We have to get control of this asylum. Until then, no coach will succeed here.
There is a reason why Hue couldnt get the penalty issue under control and it wasnt Hue, it was the dumb players.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Searching for Troll number one status?
Than: comparisons
Then: timing
Grammar, give it a try.
Give this a try.STFU!Only gay boys point out grammer.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
And of course, i don’t agree this is the right coaching staff moving foward
November 29th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Jdb,
McClain killing da? Talk about killing two birds with one stone! Someone needs to make this happen!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Lol dakota!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
OakFo’s back in the house? lol
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
i will tell u one thing. if mcclain isn’t dumped after this mess, than something is wrong with this staff. or mark davis is f@cking it up. the dude is horrible and a cancer. get him the f@ck outta here!
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Prepare for a moment of truth. Not condoning or disapproving the matter, just a moment of truth comin up.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
does dennis allen suffer from:
http://www.beautifulandhealthy.com/pages/Gynecomastia.html?gclid=CLHc9eW69bMCFSTZQgod6ysAlg
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I just hope that reggie has a plan for next year. Spend $$$ on free agents and stop shopping at the thrift discount store. It will be interesting to see what he talks about tomorrow. anyone know the time of the conference?
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Im expecting this press conference to be epic. As a long time Raiders fan, Ive become used to nothing but the finest in GM press conference entertainment. Reggie has big shoes to fill. He better not disappoint.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Ok, so as fans, we all agree on a few things right?
QB – Im fine with the 3 we have. We have bigger needs.
RB – If we can trade DMC for a 2nd & a 4th, we pull the trigger
WR – We need a #1. A real #1.
OL – We need a C, RG, & RT in the worst way
DL – We need to retool the entire D-Line
LB – We need a impact MLB as this is still the worst unit on our team
DB – We need a FS, keep Huff as our #2 CB and get us a real #1 CB
ST – Swap King for Lechler
So here is what I propose is realistic this offseason…
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I agree with everything but the King for Lechler swap. I just think Shane didn’t have enough time to recover from surgery and i’m not totally convince on King. He had some big punts but also quite a few line drives.
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I love Lechler, but King is so much cheaper that you have to make the move.
The ZBS allows up to have a relatively cheap O-Line. That will free up money to build a powerhouse D-Line and a premier WR.
We have tried to spend big money on special teams and it hasnt produced us anything. Its time to try something different. And its a no brainer considering King’s potential to probably easily replace Lechler.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
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November 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Also believe the D-Line is salvagable if they move Houston inside along with Bryant. They will need pass rusher for the edge and someone else to sub for Shaughnessy on passing downs. But #77, 90 and 99 can still be solid players
November 29th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
http://www.marvelousmanboobs.com/
will da be added to the list?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Riff, that sounds pretty close to truth. One BIG thing you left out is a nose tackle. I think DA and Tarver etal, want to play 3-4.
Of course I was basing some of that on why they were keeping Rolando around. Maybe not….
November 29th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Does anyone have a ballpark figure of how much cap space we’ll have this offseason?
November 29th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Really damn near close to impossible to like McClain. And as complete trash as hes been here, hes just the type of @sshole to go elsewhere and play like a champ. However, most of myself thinks hes gonna p!ss his way out of the league. However, I would have paid a penny or two to see him rip DA’s head off.
But if theres teammates that feel like McClain, mixed with players that side with DA (stupid as that sh!t sounds, some players are “coach’s boys”), this is a very divided team. I said it last week, this is about to get a lot uglier before it gets any better.
Thanks Reg.
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Its funny reading the comments in the ESPN article.
So many fans of other teams think Rolando is a beast waiting to happen. it’s hilarious.
They all cite what a great player he was until DA showed up.
It’s amazing how people view the world. They will convince themselves of anything.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Slo had 3 years to show us something. He has not improved at all. Even if you put him in a 3-4 scheme that won’t suddenly improve his instincts or make him hustle. A space eater in front of him might keep him clean because we already know he can’t fight off blockers. He was brought here to be our Ray Lewis / Patrick Willis. Instead we got the Boz (although at least Boz was running full speed when Bo ran away from him).
November 29th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
102.tonedeezy Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
i love how people are defending slolando and making sexist remarks about DA’s masculinity.
DA didn’t lose a fight and then go run to facebook to talk sh!t about it.
Nice hero to worship there you little girls.
Spoken like a true gay bar patron.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Does anyone have a ballpark figure of how much cap space we’ll have this offseason?
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I dont have a figure. But I do know that we are in for a rough ride again unless we cut a ton of salary or some guys restructure bigtime.
This offseason’s cap is as ugly if not uglier than last years.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I love Lechler, but King is so much cheaper that you have to make the move.
The ZBS allows up to have a relatively cheap O-Line. That will free up money to build a powerhouse D-Line and a premier WR.
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No reason that Shane will command the salary Davis gave him. So he won’t be that expensive. Also run the risk that Jano suffers losing lechler, who helps him mentally.
And they need to can the ZBS, not just because of McFadden but because of Veldheer and Wiz struggles. Plus we’ve already seen what a cheap O-line gives us
November 29th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
2013 Priorities:
DE (both)
NT
RT
MLB
CB or FS
DT
In that order, and then depth everywhere.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Also believe the D-Line is salvagable if they move Houston inside along with Bryant. They will need pass rusher for the edge and someone else to sub for Shaughnessy on passing downs. But #77, 90 and 99 can still be solid players
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That is a VERY good suggestion. Im going to edit my proposal.
Because if we can do what you say, then we can dump Kelly (cost cutting move), Seymore (cost cutting move), and combine those two gone with CUTTING SLOLANDO and restructuring CP3 & DHB while also cutting Briesel and trading McFadden…. we could shed a TON of cap space and actually look pretty healthy cap wise from here on out.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Why did I ask!?! lol
Thanks Riff!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
No, the cap won’t be quite that bad. Reggie ate some dust this year to make 2013 a little more palatable.
Can’t be keeping Bick Dick around for 8 games a year at $2mill per game…
November 29th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Heyward-Bey gets cut. I like the kid but he sucks. I would yanked him last week. No WAY he would’a seen the field if JLofty had a say in it….
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Also believe the D-Line is salvagable if they move Houston inside along with Bryant. They will need pass rusher for the edge and someone else to sub for Shaughnessy on passing downs. But #77, 90 and 99 can still be solid players
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That is a VERY good suggestion. Im going to edit my proposal.
Because if we can do what you say, then we can dump Kelly (cost cutting move), Seymore (cost cutting move), and combine those two gone with CUTTING SLOLANDO and restructuring CP3 & DHB while also cutting Briesel and trading McFadden…. we could shed a TON of cap space and actually look pretty healthy cap wise from here on out.
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Houston and Sho-Nasty are not star players, Fans expect alot more from them that just isn’t there. That’s where the dissapointment comes from But still very good players. Especially Houston on short yardage stops.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I agree with JLofty about DHB…
You either know how to catch or you don’t.
He doesn’t.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I just hope that reggie has a plan for next year. Spend $$$ on free agents and stop shopping at the thrift discount store. It will be interesting to see what he talks about tomorrow. anyone know the time of the conference?
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Im expecting this press conference to be epic. As a long time Raiders fan, Ive become used to nothing but the finest in GM press conference entertainment. Reggie has big shoes to fill. He better not disappoint.
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I dont think anyone will ever top the overhead projector but reggie should pull up with one of them sign language people to translate his mumbling. Never the less it should be interesting to see what he talks about. secretly hoping for a knapp firing tho.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
JLofty Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Heyward-Bey gets cut. I like the kid but he sucks. I would yanked him last week. No WAY he would’a seen the field if JLofty had a say in it….
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Well sometimes he makes some sweet body catches.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
“As a quarterback, you have to do that,” Pryor said. “I don’t play, and I don’t get any reps in practice, so I have to have false enthusiasm to get the guys going whenever they’re slacking a little bit or kind of tired. It’s tough, but that’s the calling for me right now. I’ve got to deal with it.”
Pryor said he has the playbook mastered, but concedes understanding something in a meeting room and applying it on the field are two different things.
“If we were to talk and you were to give me a formation for this upcoming week I’d know every single play,” Pryor said. “I’d know where everyone’s at, I’d know all the responsibilities. That’s on paper, that’s not on the field with four guys 300-pounds flying at you, so I don’t know.”—- TP6
whats not to love about this kid? i wish every raider player had this kids attitude and dedication. he has been clearly humbled since being booted from school.
TP6 could be one of al davis’s greatest raider stories if he can succeed.
Think of it, a checkered past with character issues, written off by every one, lost his high draft status and the money that comes with it, written off by everyone with a keyboard, and doubted at every turn. “he will never take a snap as the starter” impostor fans said. “he cant read a defense, he cant throw accurately” he is an idiot” and so on.
yet if he can persevere and rise to the challenge it would be one of the greatest coem back stories in raider history, and would validates AL davis’s belief in him when no one else did. Classic raider redemption!!
I am rooting for this kid.
allen is making a critical error, he should activate pryor then make him number two for the two weeks. Then allen must let him split reps with the starter.
This will prepare him for his debut and give him the best chance to succeed.
That is how the niners accelerated kappy’s curve. he was named number two off the bat, he was in games in mop up duty and in specialty plays, and eventually took the field when smith was nicked. Now he is starting and the clear heir apparent.
I do believe that hu jack would have done this for him, and allen has missed the oat and completely botched the handling of our young enigmatic mercurial qb.
COME ON ALLEN…..FREE TP6!!!!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
The defense needs to be gutted and start over. The offense will be fine as long as they get rid of the right side of the line and lose Knapp. Brisiel has been the biggest bust of the off season by far.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I love Lechler, but King is so much cheaper that you have to make the move.
The ZBS allows up to have a relatively cheap O-Line. That will free up money to build a powerhouse D-Line and a premier WR.
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No reason that Shane will command the salary Davis gave him. So he won’t be that expensive. Also run the risk that Jano suffers losing lechler, who helps him mentally.
And they need to can the ZBS, not just because of McFadden but because of Veldheer and Wiz struggles. Plus we’ve already seen what a cheap O-line gives us
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Point taken on the Lechler front. Especially regarding Jano. I like the train of thought, but Lechler has to come in cheap. No compromises here.
As for the ZBS….We’re not going to abandon it. We cant keep changing schemes year after year. We need to pick the best one and go with it. And in reality, ZBS is the best scheme. Defenses hate it and it is cheap to operate.
Veldheer would be better if he had Wiz back next to him. Wiz at C has been a disaster and its not the ZBS’s fault. If you watch the tape, our problem is physicallity, not scheme. We are getting beat physically. So imagine if we were running a Power Blocking Scheme or a Man Blocking Scheme…. our issues would be even worse this year.
Coop is too old, Briesel sucks, and Barnes is the worst RT in the league. Until we get players on that side of the ball that can play, we cant give up on the scheme. And finding the right players will be easy, as Raider O says, ZBS lineman can be found late in the drafts, which is what we need to do considering we MUST spend our early picks getting a DE and MLB. Our cap space needs to go to a CB and WR. That leaves only Lat picks for the OL. You arent going to find many blue-chip PBS or MBS linemen late in the draft.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
110.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
OakFo’s back in the house? lol
Where? I need to get his autograph.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Also believe the D-Line is salvagable if they move Houston inside along with Bryant. They will need pass rusher for the edge and someone else to sub for Shaughnessy on passing downs. But #77, 90 and 99 can still be solid players
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That is a VERY good suggestion. Im going to edit my proposal.
Because if we can do what you say, then we can dump Kelly (cost cutting move), Seymore (cost cutting move), and combine those two gone with CUTTING SLOLANDO and restructuring CP3 & DHB while also cutting Briesel and trading McFadden…. we could shed a TON of cap space and actually look pretty healthy cap wise from here on out.
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Houston and Sho-Nasty are not star players, Fans expect alot more from them that just isn’t there. That’s where the dissapointment comes from But still very good players. Especially Houston on short yardage stops.
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I’ve thought for a while that we have four three-techniques starting on our d-line. These players all seem better suited for the interior, with a big NT (Big John Henderson) type beside them.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
NFL Films’ Greg Cosell on Rolando McClain: “He’s been awful … arguably the worst starting 4-3 middle linebacker in the NFL. He can’t move”
November 29th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
This Thurs nite matchup against Denver a week from tonight is setting up to be a potential nightmare.
We’ll have to deal with the pregame jokes and slamdowns from the NFLN crew and a probable 3/4 filled stadium (w/ many Denver fans filling up empty seats)and if we come in after getting thumped by Cleveland it’ll be even worse.
The org. and the disaster we have become, will be on full display for a national audience to see.
Instead of looking forward to it…i am almost dreading it.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Also believe the D-Line is salvagable if they move Houston inside along with Bryant. They will need pass rusher for the edge and someone else to sub for Shaughnessy on passing downs. But #77, 90 and 99 can still be solid players
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That is a VERY good suggestion. Im going to edit my proposal.
Because if we can do what you say, then we can dump Kelly (cost cutting move), Seymore (cost cutting move), and combine those two gone with CUTTING SLOLANDO and restructuring CP3 & DHB while also cutting Briesel and trading McFadden…. we could shed a TON of cap space and actually look pretty healthy cap wise from here on out.
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Houston and Sho-Nasty are not star players, Fans expect alot more from them that just isn’t there. That’s where the dissapointment comes from But still very good players. Especially Houston on short yardage stops.
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I like Houson, he has a great motor.
Shonasty Im done with. Too much jogging, not enough impact. Done in my book. Let him fight for the DE spot opposite of our draft pick next season. If he makes the team, great, if not, great.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I’ve thought for a while that we have four three-techniques starting on our d-line. These players all seem better suited for the interior, with a big NT (Big John Henderson) type beside them.
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Yeah or put them as a 3-4 line. But i’m not a fan of the 3-4 and we don’t even have enough LB’s for competent 4-3
November 29th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
More Cosell on Rolando McClain: “He doesn’t play with any quick twitch at all. He’s almost plodding in his movements.”
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November 29th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
lol Hey Oak!
As a Raider fan, you should root for every player on the team. I don’t care who is the QB, I root for them and roll with the punches. Instead of blaming Palmer when the whole team is collapsing around him.
I hope Pryor becomes the man and does big things!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Shonasty Im done with. Too much jogging, not enough impact. Done in my book. Let him fight for the DE spot opposite of our draft pick next season. If he makes the team, great, if not, great.
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He’s just not an impact player, he had a high motor but i think the he’s letting guys like Kelly and McClain influence him this year. Which is why we need to get rid of Huff too. I know he’s played well this year at corner but he has to go. He’s got the same nonchalaunt attitude to where he really doesn’t care if they win or lose. It’s just a shame it took this long to figure out what he’s good at.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Oakofshow is probably the dumbest human being I have ever encountered. SMH
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November 29th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Mclain is going to leave soon.
No knuckleheads!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
If they are sitting Palmer I see no reason to even go with Leinart. They need to get Pryor in there and see what he’s got. Leinart will never be more than a backup in this league.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
140.DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
This Thurs nite matchup against Denver a week from tonight is setting up to be a potential nightmare.
We’ll have to deal with the pregame jokes and slamdowns from the NFLN crew and a probable 3/4 filled stadium (w/ many Denver fans filling up empty seats)and if we come in after getting thumped by Cleveland it’ll be even worse.
The org. and the disaster we have become, will be on full display for a national audience to see.
Instead of looking forward to it…i am almost dreading it.
======================== Why,we are going to the playoffs ya know.Just ask mcfadden20,Albert,and raiderduck
November 29th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
McClain is just collecting a paycheck.
He doesn’t give a s….
November 29th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Pryor’s coming out party will be against Denver, once we’re down by 21 points at the half. Leinart could lead us to a win against the Brownies, who knows…
Pryor brings back Raiders from a 21pt deficit to beat AFC west leader Denver Broncos…
Let me dream. lol
November 29th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Chuck from Omaha: Do you think the Broncos might snag Rolando McClain (if he is cut)? If so do you think some solid coaching from fox and del Rio might bring out the potential he showed before he was drafted?
Bill Williamson: (If cut), I can see him being considered. He could help. But he will need a lot of coaching and things are going so well, I’m not sure Denver will want to deal with it right now. But I wouldn’t be shocked. If I had to say there was a McClain favorite in the AFC West, I’d think it would be Denver.
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This may be one reason why they don’t just cut him.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I bet missdick is secretly hoping kevin art starts and does just well enuff to keep the job. That way he can still do his daily rant about Pryor. A lot better than seeing Pryor play and fail. Then he would have to do priest’s “it’s unfair. He doesn’t get the help or development time of white qb’s” thing.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
146.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Oakofshow is probably the dumbest human being I have ever encountered. SMH
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lol
November 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Veldheer Wiz draft (C) Bergstrom FA
CP (unless pryor impresses)
Reece DMAC
Bowe Moore
draft (DE) Bryant Houston Shaugh
wheeler maualuga burris
Branch
Huff FA
draft (FS)
Jano
Lechler
Ford
November 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Leinart, not kevin art. Dam auto fill.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I prefer we fly under the radar instead of on national tv at this point when we are this bad.
3-9…45,000 fans (1/3 Bronco fans) and a pregame and announcing crew there to tear us apart?
Not to mention what Peyton Manning will do.
I am cringing when I see the promos for this game.
I don’t like us to be embarrassed like this.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Shonasty Im done with. Too much jogging, not enough impact. Done in my book. Let him fight for the DE spot opposite of our draft pick next season. If he makes the team, great, if not, great.
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He’s just not an impact player, he had a high motor but i think the he’s letting guys like Kelly and McClain influence him this year. Which is why we need to get rid of Huff too. I know he’s played well this year at corner but he has to go. He’s got the same nonchalaunt attitude to where he really doesn’t care if they win or lose. It’s just a shame it took this long to figure out what he’s good at.
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Go rewatch the Saints game, you’ll wanna cut Shonasty immediately. He did a great Romac imperssination. Especially when you compare him to Houston. Houston never stops.
And as for Huff, he’s a good #2 CB. I see the effort there. He cares. And I think he’s smart enough to play in this D.
The bottom line is this, we have a TON of holes to fill. Every unit sans the QB squad needs major work. We cannot expect Reggie to fix everything at once, especially grab a #2 and #1 CB. That just wont happen. So we have to stay with Huff, and bringing back Nnamdi is very realistic and then our CB issues are moderately solved and we can focus on more pressing needs, of which there are many.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
This may be one reason why they don’t just cut him.
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If they fear him, then they should’nt cut him. I think it’s more of searching for a loophole to not pay him.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
LOL at LEINART being the number 2 qb. Why even play this chump? he is not the future
November 29th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Veldheer Wiz draft (C) Bergstrom FA
CP (unless pryor impresses)
Reece DMAC
Bowe Moore
draft (DE) Bryant Houston Shaugh
wheeler maualuga burris
Branch
Huff FA
draft (FS)
Jano
Lechler
Ford
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Very realistic and reasonable.
Here are my suggestions to it….
Veldheer Wiz draft (C) Bergstrom FA
CP (unless pryor impresses)
Reece DMAC
Bowe Moore, ford, streater, criner, hagan
draft (DE) Bryant Houston Shaugh
wheeler maualuga burris
Branch
Huff , Nnamdi, Honey Badger
draft (FS) or FA
Jano
Lechler
Ford
November 29th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
ABP,
That was too easy. Put the cheese out and the dumb rat bites. lol
November 29th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
lol Hey Oak!
As a Raider fan, you should root for every player on the team. I don’t care who is the QB, I root for them and roll with the punches. Instead of blaming Palmer when the whole team is collapsing around him.
I hope Pryor becomes the man and does big things!
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Who is oak?
i didnt even mention palmer.
palmer is also accountable for the losses as he touches the ball on every single snap and his 35 turnovers are ONE of the reasons for his 7-14 record here.
Pryor is being mis handled as i type this.
we are 3-8 ther is nothing to gain by having lienart number two right now.
We dont need lienart to come in a save a game if palmer goes down, unless allen is only thinking short term.
the prudent thing would be to prepare pryor for his start. Do this by making him number two now, and let him split reps with palmer in practice.
Allen seems clueless about this, among other things.
i root for all raider, but yes i have a particular interest in pryor that differs from everybody else on the roster for two reasons.
pryor was the last raider draft choice of al davis. i know many people didnt like Davis but i had the joy of watching his teams win 2 super bowls and i was alive for all three. i am an oaklnd native and at one time oakland raider football players were heros for me. Now that i am grown i dont worship players in that way, but i would like to see davis get the last laugh.
pryor is a qb, and we havent had a good track record with drafting qbs, mark wilson, andrew walter, tui, russell and so on.
I would love to see the raiders home grown talent shine and take the nfl by storm with his unique style and blend of talents.
i would like to see an offense built to fit him and revolutionize our out dated stale boring difficult to watch offense. just as RGIII wilson, and newton have doen at various times for their teams.
The fat that one of the most explosive players in the nfl hasnt even dressed is beyond traggic.
get a clue and get the man ready to show what he can do.
Allen is already a laughing stock in the eyes of the media and apparently the players as well. His mishandling of pryor is one of his more laughable gaffs in my opinion.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Go rewatch the Saints game, you’ll wanna cut Shonasty immediately. He did a great Romac imperssination. Especially when you compare him to Houston. Houston never stops.
And as for Huff, he’s a good #2 CB. I see the effort there. He cares. And I think he’s smart enough to play in this D.
The bottom line is this, we have a TON of holes to fill. Every unit sans the QB squad needs major work. We cannot expect Reggie to fix everything at once, especially grab a #2 and #1 CB. That just wont happen. So we have to stay with Huff, and bringing back Nnamdi is very realistic and then our CB issues are moderately solved and we can focus on more pressing needs, of which there are many.
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I get that they won’t replace everything at once. But i think Huff is a cancer. I’ve seen him jog on more tha one occasion. Think about it, when’s the last time you’ve seen Huff run anything down from behind?
November 29th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Leinart–the brown haired hero–the wave of the past!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Ok, so as fans, we all agree on a few things right?
QB – Im fine with the 3 we have. We have bigger needs.
RB – If we can trade DMC for a 2nd & a 4th, we pull the trigger
WR – We need a #1. A real #1.
OL – We need a C, RG, & RT in the worst way
DL – We need to retool the entire D-Line
LB – We need a impact MLB as this is still the worst unit on our team
DB – We need a FS, keep Huff as our #2 CB and get us a real #1 CB
ST – Swap King for Lechler
So here is what I propose is realistic this offseason…
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I agree with everything but the King for Lechler swap. I just think Shane didn’t have enough time to recover from surgery and i’m not totally convince on King. He had some big punts but also quite a few line drives.
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I love Lechler, but King is so much cheaper that you have to make the move.
The ZBS allows up to have a relatively cheap O-Line. That will free up money to build a powerhouse D-Line and a premier WR.
We have tried to spend big money on special teams and it hasnt produced us anything. Its time to try something different. And its a no brainer considering King’s potential to probably easily replace Lechler.
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Honestly, I think we don’t need to draft another DB if we keep Huff and resign Nnamdi. There’s a speed guy on the roster who’s taking up space and is probably not in the correct position. Since Taiwan Jones is getting bypassed by practice squad RBs, then a position switch to DB may be in order for him.
My take on the King being IR’d earlier this year: no matter who is kept between King and Lech, the other may be late round draft bait material since Big Reg loves his draft picks.
The battle of the trenches have been overlooked by this team since the SB debacle. Not that they didn’t try (Gallery, Grove) it’s just that half were ragtag signees, the other half was attempted via the draft. Doesn’t help that the DL/OL coaches changes as often as the HC.
Offense and Special Team coordinators have to go. Current track record and past track record indicates this. Even with the highest “most points scored” average, my personal jury is still out on the Tarver/DA tandem. Ragtag, injury-plagued secondary, and 3 cancers on the starting front 7 hard to tell how the scheme would’ve work with solid players in place.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I am in the camp of letting Shane walk, but not in just giving the job to an undrafted kid.
Most of the youngr punters around the league are drafted these days, 5th or 6th round, some earlier.
King’s average his senior year amongst D-I and D-II wouldn’t have even been in the top 20.
Too much boom or bust to hand him a job. They will maybe even draft a guy in the 7th round (Taylor Accardi;remember that name) or bring in another undrafted guy or two and have a punt off.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Nnamdi, despite his struggles in Philly (Which are overblown) will not come cheap. There will be plenty of teams who think they can do something with him
November 29th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Mistic,
I am with you on wanting to see Pryor.
Seriously, how worse can we get hammered if he’s in there?
Instead of 55-20 we get beat 65-10? I hope not.
Al’s last pick…season over anyway…= Pryor.
Why not.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
News flash. Russell Wilson is not the same type of players as griffin and newton. Oh wait. They do share one particular trait don’t they?
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I bet missdick is secretly hoping kevin art starts and does just well enuff to keep the job. That way he can still do his daily rant about Pryor. A lot better than seeing Pryor play and fail. Then he would have to do priest’s “it’s unfair. He doesn’t get the help or development time of white qb’s” thing.
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gradkowki raider,
you are the strangest person i have ever encountered on a blog. this is like watching fight club or identity.
men that cross post are like men that cross dress, you have to question their man hood.
cross posting just to incite discord, argue with your self, and agree with yourself at other times is no different than masturbating in public.
You have taken trolling to an entirely different level.
You are a creeper
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Pryor might actually win you a football Game
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Go rewatch the Saints game, you’ll wanna cut Shonasty immediately. He did a great Romac imperssination. Especially when you compare him to Houston. Houston never stops.
And as for Huff, he’s a good #2 CB. I see the effort there. He cares. And I think he’s smart enough to play in this D.
The bottom line is this, we have a TON of holes to fill. Every unit sans the QB squad needs major work. We cannot expect Reggie to fix everything at once, especially grab a #2 and #1 CB. That just wont happen. So we have to stay with Huff, and bringing back Nnamdi is very realistic and then our CB issues are moderately solved and we can focus on more pressing needs, of which there are many.
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I get that they won’t replace everything at once. But i think Huff is a cancer. I’ve seen him jog on more tha one occasion. Think about it, when’s the last time you’ve seen Huff run anything down from behind?
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Im not worried about Huff. I watch for his effort and I like what I see. He mumbles when he speaks and seems apathetic in his interviews, so I think that rubs some fans the wrong way, but when you watch the tape over and over, you are impressed with his actual play at CB. He’s a good #2 and his salary matches his play for the first time ever. I wouldnt call him a cancer by any stretch.
I do see Branch running down tons of plays. He’s an artist at appearing to hustle. It’s all a facade if you ask me. He takes a horrible angle and then he races after someone he’ll never catch just to show the GM that he cares. I’d like to see him care a bit more pre blown assignment. He aint fooling me.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I am in the camp of letting Shane walk, but not in just giving the job to an undrafted kid.
Most of the youngr punters around the league are drafted these days, 5th or 6th round, some earlier.
King’s average his senior year amongst D-I and D-II wouldn’t have even been in the top 20.
Too much boom or bust to hand him a job. They will maybe even draft a guy in the 7th round (Taylor Accardi;remember that name) or bring in another undrafted guy or two and have a punt off.
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I’m not sold on King either, but at this point we can’t waste a pick on a punter when Lechler and King are an option. We don’t have that luxury.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
3-9…45,000 fans (1/3 Bronco fans)
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There ain’t going to be 15,000 Donkey fans and 30K Raider fans.
Get ahold of yourself.
It will be about 5K Donkeys (at best), 45K Raiders.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Mistic,
Oak has nothing to do with you but i’m right there with you in hoping TP6 makes it happen.
I hope he’s the tsunami of the future!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Mistic,
I am with you on wanting to see Pryor.
Seriously, how worse can we get hammered if he’s in there?
Instead of 55-20 we get beat 65-10? I hope not.
Al’s last pick…season over anyway…= Pryor.
Why not.
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Agreed.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I am in the camp of letting Shane walk, but not in just giving the job to an undrafted kid.
Most of the youngr punters around the league are drafted these days, 5th or 6th round, some earlier.
King’s average his senior year amongst D-I and D-II wouldn’t have even been in the top 20.
Too much boom or bust to hand him a job. They will maybe even draft a guy in the 7th round (Taylor Accardi;remember that name) or bring in another undrafted guy or two and have a punt off.
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I’m not sold on King either, but at this point we can’t waste a pick on a punter when Lechler and King are an option. We don’t have that luxury.
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Exactly.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Teddy Bridgewater playing with a broken left hand…I like this kid.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I do see Branch running down tons of plays. He’s an artist at appearing to hustle. It’s all a facade if you ask me. He takes a horrible angle and then he races after someone he’ll never catch just to show the GM that he cares. I’d like to see him care a bit more pre blown assignment. He aint fooling me.
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His bad angles are a product of bad coaching. I don’t believe his hustle is a facade. He has everything to be a good saftey.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I’m not sold on King either, but at this point we can’t waste a pick on a punter when Lechler and King are an option. We don’t have that luxury.
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Yeah, probably not the best use of our limited resources, but I think we have 2 7th rounders after the Lou Murph deal.
Certainly not in the camp of using an early pick, just saying.
This Accardi kid in Colorado is all the hype. My boss in Denver is always telling me about him. He averages like 52 yards a punt or something crazy.
Denver will probably draft him in the 4th round, they can afford to do so.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Well we will find out shortly if the team is revolting, or if Rolando is a lone wolf.
He is being scapegoated, and The Reggie will probably piggy-back of that tomorrow.
They go out a lay a stinker at home against a last placed team, well there is your answer. Revolt.
They go out and win. There you have it, they support coach over #55.
The proverbial fork in the road.
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Agree 100%. The team needs to play angry this week and beat up the Brownies. It’s on coach to keep them united and focused
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Free Terrelle!! Free Taiwan!!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I do see Branch running down tons of plays. He’s an artist at appearing to hustle. It’s all a facade if you ask me. He takes a horrible angle and then he races after someone he’ll never catch just to show the GM that he cares. I’d like to see him care a bit more pre blown assignment. He aint fooling me.
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His bad angles are a product of bad coaching. I don’t believe his hustle is a facade. He has everything to be a good saftey.
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Bad angles = bad Instincts
You cant coach instincts.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Somebody over there on Harbor Bay Parkway needs to sack up and get this team in line
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Kid has an 88 and 84 yard punt…….THIS SEASON!!!
Have you seen our offense? This might be the missing ingredient, lol.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I do see Branch running down tons of plays. He’s an artist at appearing to hustle. It’s all a facade if you ask me. He takes a horrible angle and then he races after someone he’ll never catch just to show the GM that he cares. I’d like to see him care a bit more pre blown assignment. He aint fooling me.
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His bad angles are a product of bad coaching. I don’t believe his hustle is a facade. He has everything to be a good saftey.
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Bad angles = bad Instincts
You cant coach instincts.
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Don’t believe that because his angles weren’t bad before, they just got worse each year. That has to do with being unsure of where’s he’s supposed to be, and what he should be looking out for. He had his best season with Rod Woodson coaching him.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Offense and Special Team coordinators have to go. Current track record and past track record indicates this. Even with the highest “most points scored” average, my personal jury is still out on the Tarver/DA tandem. Ragtag, injury-plagued secondary, and 3 cancers on the starting front 7 hard to tell how the scheme would’ve work with solid players in place.
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If you know our talent level is crap, then why are you condemning our coaching staff?
The scheme worked fine when DA had a talented Dungver defesne to work with. He didnt just forget how to coach. That D took Tebow to the playoffs for godz sake.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
3-9…45,000 fans (1/3 Bronco fans)
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There ain’t going to be 15,000 Donkey fans and 30K Raider fans.
Get ahold of yourself.
It will be about 5K Donkeys (at best), 45K Raiders.
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I hope so. I just figured if we lose to the Browns there would be even less interest and Denver fans buying tix up.
I’d guess you’re right at about 50k at that game.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Offense and Special Team coordinators have to go. Current track record and past track record indicates this. Even with the highest “most points scored” average, my personal jury is still out on the Tarver/DA tandem. Ragtag, injury-plagued secondary, and 3 cancers on the starting front 7 hard to tell how the scheme would’ve work with solid players in place.
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If you know our talent level is crap, then why are you condemning our coaching staff?
The scheme worked fine when DA had a talented Dungver defesne to work with. He didnt just forget how to coach. That D took Tebow to the playoffs for godz sake.
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Well as you can see in Denver now, they only got better with Jack Del Rio. How much of that DA’s success was a result of John Fox being a great defensive coach?
November 29th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I do see Branch running down tons of plays. He’s an artist at appearing to hustle. It’s all a facade if you ask me. He takes a horrible angle and then he races after someone he’ll never catch just to show the GM that he cares. I’d like to see him care a bit more pre blown assignment. He aint fooling me.
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His bad angles are a product of bad coaching. I don’t believe his hustle is a facade. He has everything to be a good saftey.
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Bad angles = bad Instincts
You cant coach instincts.
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Don’t believe that because his angles weren’t bad before, they just got worse each year. That has to do with being unsure of where’s he’s supposed to be, and what he should be looking out for. He had his best season with Rod Woodson coaching him.
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He had his best year because it was a contract year. He even said so.
His angles have always been bad. And if he’s unsure of where he needs to be, its because he cant handle a real defense.
Im willing to give him another year. We have more pressing needs. But if things dont improve next year, he’’s next on my chit list to can for the following offseason.
Seriously, go watch the Saints v Niners game from last week. You’ll see what real safety play looks like and you’ll stop defending Branch.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Got to root for Rutgers, as my TV crush Becky Quick went there and was singing the fight song on Squawk box this morning.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Teddy Bridgewater playing with a broken left hand…I like this kid.
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HE and braxton miller are my favorite sophomore qbs
Bridgewater is the more polished passer of the two has pocket presence and accuracy similar to rgIII
Miller is much like micheal vick was at va tech
i believe these two are the best in their class
November 29th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Offense and Special Team coordinators have to go. Current track record and past track record indicates this. Even with the highest “most points scored” average, my personal jury is still out on the Tarver/DA tandem. Ragtag, injury-plagued secondary, and 3 cancers on the starting front 7 hard to tell how the scheme would’ve work with solid players in place.
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If you know our talent level is crap, then why are you condemning our coaching staff?
The scheme worked fine when DA had a talented Dungver defesne to work with. He didnt just forget how to coach. That D took Tebow to the playoffs for godz sake.
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Well as you can see in Denver now, they only got better with Jack Del Rio. How much of that DA’s success was a result of John Fox being a great defensive coach?
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The same Jack Del Rio and John Fox’s who just got fired from their previous HC jobs?
Why’d they get fired? Hmmmm, maybe the talent on their teams?
Why do they look good now? Maybe Peyton Manning has something to do with that.
I know coaching matters, it really does, but all these guys in the NFL know how to coach. Way more than you’ll ever give them credit for. They all look good when they have the talent, and theyve all been fired at one time or another in their careers. But until the Raiders have some talent on our team, we cannot condemn these coaches. That was the old way and what did it get us? Why do we need to go down the same path that we know doesnt work?
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
LOL at the Spurs sitting their whole team tonight.
Coach Pop is awesome.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
moore ford veld bris wiz berg fa\draft criner\streeter
cp3
reece
dmc
huff fa\draft bryant fa\draft houston nnamdi\fa\draft
burris fa\draft wheeler
fa\draft branch
Being conservative about what we need. You got some work to do, Reggie.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
SR Raider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Well we will find out shortly if the team is revolting, or if Rolando is a lone wolf.
He is being scapegoated, and The Reggie will probably piggy-back of that tomorrow.
They go out a lay a stinker at home against a last placed team, well there is your answer. Revolt.
They go out and win. There you have it, they support coach over #55.
The proverbial fork in the road.
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yep
if it was a desperate attempt to try and take control then the players will simply roll their eyes and you will see by their effort on sunday.
so far to be honest this kid seems to be josh McDaniel and bill Callahan rolled into one, except those guys at least more initial success than da
brown vs raiders must see tv
a legacy game for allen
November 29th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Matt Ryan and Peyton I think are duking it out for NFL MVP
November 29th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
CB, CB, LB, DT, DE, S – it’s gonna take at least six new starters to fix this defense
on offense, can Knapp and the zbs, go back to smashmouth football, replace the right side of the line, and get a #1 receiver
Reggie has his work cut out for him. At least he has the rest of the season to think about it
November 29th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
if it was a desperate attempt to try and take control then the players will simply roll their eyes and you will see by their effort on sunday.
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And what are you basing that on?
You honestly dont think players respond to benchings and players being cut?
Youre fvcking clueless. These players dont respect much, but they do respect their paychecks. When those are in jeapordy, you see some unreal effort.
NOBODY on this team wants to be “next” to go. You’ll see that this Sunday or you’ll see more cuts until they get it.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
SR Raider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
CB, CB, LB, DT, DE, S – it’s gonna take at least six new starters to fix this defense
on offense, can Knapp and the zbs, go back to smashmouth football, replace the right side of the line, and get a #1 receiver
Reggie has his work cut out for him. At least he has the rest of the season to think about it
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There is nothing to think about. What you proposed isnt even possible. Retooling the Right side of the O-Line via free agency for the Power Blocking Scheme would eat up all of our cap room right there.
And then how do expect us to get a #1 and #2 CB after that?
Be realistic. And think before you type.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Raider Riff Says:
DJ Johnny Says:
Mistic,
I am with you on wanting to see Pryor.
Why not.
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Agreed.
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Same here. It’s not that I’m giving up on Palmer. It’s that I want to find out what we have in Pryor. Need to get him some NFL action and see if he’s worth keeping. Training camp, practices and preseason don’t tell you sh!t. He needs to be in real games to know what he is.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I’m being very realistic. If this were my madden team, that is what i would have to do. And I would not be able to do it in one year
November 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I haven’t watched much Bridgewater this year, have seen a little of him.
Has a very smooth throwing motion.
But seems kind of small out there, not buying his 6′3 listing.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
SR Raider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I’m being very realistic. If this were my madden team, that is what i would have to do. And I would not be able to do it in one year
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It appeared you were advocating all of those moves in the same offseason.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
It appeared you were advocating all of those moves in the same offseason.
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Naw, just reminding myself how dismal things are. We gotta flush all those bad contracts and it hurts
November 29th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I do see Branch running down tons of plays. He’s an artist at appearing to hustle. It’s all a facade if you ask me. He takes a horrible angle and then he races after someone he’ll never catch just to show the GM that he cares. I’d like to see him care a bit more pre blown assignment. He aint fooling me.
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His bad angles are a product of bad coaching. I don’t believe his hustle is a facade. He has everything to be a good saftey.
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Bad angles = bad Instincts
You cant coach instincts.
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Don’t believe that because his angles weren’t bad before, they just got worse each year. That has to do with being unsure of where’s he’s supposed to be, and what he should be looking out for. He had his best season with Rod Woodson coaching him.
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Branch has been bad at angles for years. Branch is not disciplined enough. blame it on scheme all you want but branch is a below average safety.guys like him and mike mitchell will burn you long term
November 29th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
if it was a desperate attempt to try and take control then the players will simply roll their eyes and you will see by their effort on sunday.
so far to be honest this kid seems to be josh McDaniel and bill Callahan rolled into one, except those guys at least more initial success than da
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I wonder if you would have said this if it had been Matt Giordano, Jared Veldheer, or Brandon Myers that had thrown a tantrum with the coach.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Branch stinks.
Nobody turns a 20 yard gain into a 60 yard TD better than him.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Raider Riff I believe you’ve missed correcting a couple posts tonight? Don’t let them slide!
November 29th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
How bout coach better and stop scapegoating players.
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What do you mean? Look, when we drafted Rolando McClain, we were hoping for something close to a Ray Lewis. Maybe a little slower, but bigger. A difference maker, an intimidator, and leader. Diagnosing plays and blowing them up.
Reality, he’s not even close.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Honestly Oregons DION JORDAN seems like a more interesting /explosive player then Jarvis Jones to me.
I even read some scouts comparing Jordan to Aldon smith. I have to agree that kind of upside.
Aldon smith only had 5.5 sacks his final year in college
November 29th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Branch?
Used to play the run o.k. and could hit, lately not so much. He doesn’t wrap up, and bounces off guys.
Never could play the pass, has always been lost….
November 29th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
if it was a desperate attempt to try and take control then the players will simply roll their eyes and you will see by their effort on sunday.
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And what are you basing that on?
You honestly dont think players respond to benchings and players being cut?
Youre fvcking clueless. These players dont respect much, but they do respect their paychecks. When those are in jeapordy, you see some unreal effort.
NOBODY on this team wants to be “next” to go. You’ll see that this Sunday or you’ll see more cuts until they get it.
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clueless?
maybe you are new to football. there have been tons of players that were suspended and the team simply tuned out the coach.
josh macdaniel did the exact same thing with brandon marshall, kicked him off the practice field. It had no impact as the players simply tuned him out and he was impotent from that point on until he was fired.
art shell vs jerry porter.
callahan vs the “dumbest team in america”
mangini, vs the jets
todd haly vs the chiefs
Allen is on a slippery slope and if the players come out sunday and are sleep walking again in another blow out it is a sure sign they dont respect the coach.
especially if you consider the entire sequence of events going back to tommy kelly throwing team mates under the bus this year. followed now by maclain, it appears as allens hold on the locker room is precarious at best
this is a legacy game for dennis allen
November 29th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
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If you know our talent level is crap, then why are you condemning our coaching staff?
The scheme worked fine when DA had a talented Dungver defesne to work with. He didnt just forget how to coach. That D took Tebow to the playoffs for godz sake.
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Well as you can see in Denver now, they only got better with Jack Del Rio. How much of that DA’s success was a result of John Fox being a great defensive coach?
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Not a knock on the coaching staff, just the two coordinators who had similar results elsewhere. The ST coord may be a kicking “guru,” but how about coverage, runback, and field position? (Didn’t KC get rid of him for that same reason?) Raider Knapp version 1.0 got demoted from play-calling by of all people, CABLE. He is getting similar results as he did during his 1st go round. That’s why I singled those two out.
Let’s talk about Dungver for a sec: yes, I am aware that DA was the DC when they with an identical W-L record (8-8) won the AFC West last season. That scratches my head in bewilderment with the lack of flexibility and stubbornness coming from DA knowing that without the adjustments made with the Donks, they would NOT have won the AFC West last year. Now the question about who gets credit for Dungvers D keeping them in games IN SPITE of Tebow is open. Was it Fox or DA? I don’t know.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
How bout coach better and stop scapegoating players.
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That was the Shannahan to Cable era. If you want that trash, go pop some tapes in of the last 2 decades.
Some of us around here are sick and tired of losing and the players on the field not being held accountable.
If you want the old way and the losing to continue, go cry at Al’s grave, because nobody in the current reggime is going to listen.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
if it was a desperate attempt to try and take control then the players will simply roll their eyes and you will see by their effort on sunday.
so far to be honest this kid seems to be josh McDaniel and bill Callahan rolled into one, except those guys at least more initial success than da
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I wonder if you would have said this if it had been Matt Giordano, Jared Veldheer, or Brandon Myers that had thrown a tantrum with the coach.
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i would
if a coach hasnt won and has to throw players off the field then that player clearly didnt buy what the coach was selling.
The question is how many players have turned a deaf ear on allen.
what allies does allen have to sell his brand in the locker room.
hu jack had jc and seymore
gruden had gannon and brown
who leads for allen and allens cause?
sunday wil tell us everything we need to know about how the team feels about him
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
This team has regressed in every category from last year, and it ain’t the Coaches fault? Are you serious?
November 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
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If you know our talent level is crap, then why are you condemning our coaching staff?
The scheme worked fine when DA had a talented Dungver defesne to work with. He didnt just forget how to coach. That D took Tebow to the playoffs for godz sake.
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Well as you can see in Denver now, they only got better with Jack Del Rio. How much of that DA’s success was a result of John Fox being a great defensive coach?
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Not a knock on the coaching staff, just the two coordinators who had similar results elsewhere. The ST coord may be a kicking “guru,” but how about coverage, runback, and field position? (Didn’t KC get rid of him for that same reason?) Raider Knapp version 1.0 got demoted from play-calling by of all people, CABLE. He is getting similar results as he did during his 1st go round. That’s why I singled those two out.
Let’s talk about Dungver for a sec: yes, I am aware that DA was the DC when they with an identical W-L record (8-8) won the AFC West last season. That scratches my head in bewilderment with the lack of flexibility and stubbornness coming from DA knowing that without the adjustments made with the Donks, they would NOT have won the AFC West last year. Now the question about who gets credit for Dungvers D keeping them in games IN SPITE of Tebow is open. Was it Fox or DA? I don’t know.
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It’s not Fox or DA, its called having legitimate talent on your defense. Dumerville is way better than any player we have on our team.
He impacts the game. None of our players do.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
DA and Reggie have alot to prove. AGREED!!! 2012 was more about excuses than results. However, i’m tired of watching DHB work hard and drop balls, tired of watching branch run 100mph and miss tackles, tired of MM34 talk smack and get burned, tired of our dl and outside lb not setting the edge, tired of having no passrusher, tired of hoping for a running back who has one 1000 yd season in 5 years to stay healthy. Don’t get me started on Briesel and Willie Smith , just awful. I can’t stand knapp, but these players never do their jobs, run good routes, choose the right gaps, or make plays.
I just hope Reggie is the person to rebuild because he’s been just a tad better than our underperforming players
November 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I think Louisville has tuned out it’s coach for flirting with Auburn.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I find it hard to believe that over the period of 3 years, not one coach has realized that McClain is not quick enough to go sideline to sideline like a true MLB in a 4-3.
He is a SS ILb in a damn 3-4. That is the only place he should ever play.
He’s gone now and probably rightfully so (we will never know what was said), but I think we will see him next season playing well in a 3-4.
Where he belongs….
November 29th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
This team has regressed in every category from last year, and it ain’t the Coaches fault? Are you serious?
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Ya, I am serious.
Hue wanted to gut this team also, why is that? He knew what DA and Reggie now know.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Oh, and Kell, lets not ignore how much harder our schedule is this year than last year when comparing what the coaches records are.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
who leads for allen and allens cause?
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Terrell Pryor would love to.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
my top 3 under classmen qbs
1. teddy bridgewater
2. braxton miller
3. johhny football
November 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
art shell vs jerry porter.
callahan vs the “dumbest team in america”
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Those were under the previous “player-friendly” regime. These are new times, son.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
As for the ZBS….We’re not going to abandon it. We cant keep changing schemes year after year. We need to pick the best one and go with it. And in reality, ZBS is the best scheme. Defenses hate it and it is cheap to operate.
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I disagree with this. Unless we want to give up really on our top O-Linemen now, then we’ll have to move back to what worked.
Our RT needs to change either way. But, right now we don’t have a single linemen playing well in ZBS. At least we’d have a cornerstone at LT and LG if we moved back.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@ post 200 you say they respect their paychecks but if they get cut or benched they’re still getting paid, so i dont think that scares them. If they were scared of that they’d be giving more effort from the outset. McClain sounded happy about getting cut, like the team was doing him a favor releasing him and once he hits waivers teams are going to see a young 23 year old linebacker from the university of Alabama who quarter backed a defense that won a national title that later on came to be a top 10 pick that was drafted unfortunately by a dysfunctional organization in the Oakland raiders who couldnt develop him, but still has the potential to be great because of his youth and god given attributes. He will be payed by the raiders and what ever team picks him up, he doesn’t care his career is far from over and like he said leaving the raiders will give him a chance to play for a real team.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
DA and Reggie have alot to prove. AGREED!!! 2012 was more about excuses than results. However, i’m tired of watching DHB work hard and drop balls, tired of watching branch run 100mph and miss tackles, tired of MM34 talk smack and get burned, tired of our dl and outside lb not setting the edge, tired of having no passrusher, tired of hoping for a running back who has one 1000 yd season in 5 years to stay healthy. Don’t get me started on Briesel and Willie Smith , just awful. I can’t stand knapp, but these players never do their jobs, run good routes, choose the right gaps, or make plays.
I just hope Reggie is the person to rebuild because he’s been just a tad better than our underperforming players
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Correct.
Had Briesel worked out, I think most fans wouldnt have been so hard on Reggie.
Passing on Plax or TO and whiffing on Briesel has been hard for most to swallow.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Mistic,
Didn’t you say that Manziel had the weakest arm of any collegiate QB you ever seen?
I wouldn’t say he has a strong arm, but apparently you haven’t watched Cal the last two years.
Maynard was a limp wristed, noodle-arm extradonaire!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
That strength of schedule argument is some of the lamest sh*t I have ever read on here.
The difference from one year to the next is marginal at best.
Poor F*cking excuse….
November 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
art shell vs jerry porter.
callahan vs the “dumbest team in america”
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Those were under the previous “player-friendly” regime. These are new times, son.
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No matter how much evidence of this and no matter how many times we say it, the idiots on this board will never get it.
Al trained them well. So well that they would rather lose the “Raider way” than win by any means necessary.
And what’s worse, is that some of the old Al loyalists on here were around back when winning the Raider way actually meant by any means necessary.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I’d rank Manziel over Braxton.
Manziel
Bridgewater (better upside)
Braxton (will be a josh cribs type in nfl)
November 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Another legacy game? First one for a 3-7 team. Now one for a 3-8 team? We got any more legacy games coming up? In the words of Inigo Montoya “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
November 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Aaron Murray can go make himself some serious coin with a big game Saturday night.
He flops, he goes back to school. Wins and goes to the BCS championship game, potential first round pick.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
This team has regressed in every category from last year, and it ain’t the Coaches fault? Are you serious?
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Some of it falls on them. No denying it. A switch in coaching often brings problems. But you can’t blame coaching for everything. They aren’t the ones running routes wrong, dropping passes, failing to find holes in the line, whiffing on tackles, jogging toward the play, etc.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
As you can see quitting on the raiders doesnt get you exiled in the nfl, Randy quit and got payed balled out, Deangelo hall quit and got payed, lame sniffing quit and got good gigs afterwards. It seems like quitting on the raiders is forgiven and understood because “they’re not a real team.”
November 29th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Playing in a 3-4 will not solve slowlandos laziness, or his inability to cover, or his inability to shed blocks.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Rolando has it right, this is not a real team. I would say that a majority of those that are involved with football in some way professionally agree with him.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
As you can see quitting on the raiders doesnt get you exiled in the nfl, Randy quit and got payed balled out, Deangelo hall quit and got payed, lame sniffing quit and got good gigs afterwards. It seems like quitting on the raiders is forgiven and understood because “they’re not a real team.”
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Correction…. quitting on Al’s dysfunctional mess was forgiven and understood.
The league knows its a new era in Oakland. They wont want anything to do with our current trash.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
These same underperforming players went 8-8 last year down to the final gun. With a turrible Defense.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
art shell vs jerry porter.
callahan vs the “dumbest team in america”
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Those were under the previous “player-friendly” regime. These are new times, son.
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Thats has nothing to do with my point and it isnt exclusive to the raiders.
vince young vs jeff fisher
fisher tossed out young, the team tuned out fisher and fisher was gone
mike sinlgtary vs alex smith troy smith and nate davis and bernon davis
davis took heed but his teammates did not respond to singltary
he was canned
this is common and it is often a sign that the coach isnt getting respect.
we will know based on thier effort on sunday
November 29th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
The league knows its a new era in Oakland. They wont want anything to do with our current trash.
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DVD, Barksdale, and Pat Lee had no trouble finding work.
Your a Reggie homer….Admit it?
November 29th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Your absolutely right Mistic.
It’s the fork in the road, as JFB coined it earlier.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Mistic,
Didn’t you say that Manziel had the weakest arm of any collegiate QB you ever seen?
I wouldn’t say he has a strong arm, but apparently you haven’t watched Cal the last two years.
Maynard was a limp wristed, noodle-arm extradonaire!!!
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i have ever seen? No that would be colt mccoy
However his arm strength has not hindered him form bieng one of the most exciting players
beside like you mentioned he is just a kid and could get stronger with time.
he is fun to watch either way
November 29th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
peace gym time
November 29th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Funny how a lot of you guys are still here following this team. Excuses about salary cap and out of whack contracts have koolaided the Raider Nation.
How can any raider player say Allen has the it factor. Its crazy. Well be seing another losing season in 2013 if that man along with his Knapp stays.
If Knap is fired well go 7-9, probably, and call it progress. Then in 2014 revert to same ol douchebag raiders.
But if Knapp stays, well be out of playoff contention around this time again.
Regie, we cant do anything about him, hell be here for 3 years at least, then call it a nite.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
This team has regressed in every category from last year, and it ain’t the Coaches fault? Are you serious?
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Some of it falls on them. No denying it. A switch in coaching often brings problems. But you can’t blame coaching for everything. They aren’t the ones running routes wrong, dropping passes, failing to find holes in the line, whiffing on tackles, jogging toward the play, etc.
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A switch in coaches brings problems with BAD coaches. A change in coaches brings GOOD changes with GOOD coaches. See Denver (suddenly defense good rather than horrible). Indianapolis (it’s not just a rookie making them good) etc. etc. etc.
How come when Hue came in here to take over the offense there wasn’t a “decline where we just have to put in more work”. The offense took off almost instantly. Same with Houston’s defense a couple years ago. Good coaches will do that to the program.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Heehee. I’m listening to Jay Thomas on Sirius call us Raider fans scumbags.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I just can’t get it wrapped round my head, how you tear apart a very good Oline. Those things don’t grow on trees. Don’t get it. Help me.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Mistic1, every single one of these “coach vs player” situations you’re pointing out … I’d like to point out something else about those.
None of those teams have gone on to greatness since then, with the exception of the 49ers who made it to the NFC championship last season. The Broncos seem to be on the rebound, but what team wouldn’t be when you trade out Tebow/Orton for Peyton Manning.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Ottocrat Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Heehee. I’m listening to Jay Thomas on Sirius call us Raider fans scumbags.
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Well look at this blog. Troll HQ.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
The time they are taking to make a move on Rolando is just making DA look worse and worse in the eyes of the players.
Unless it was a physical altercation he should not have kicked McClain off the field. He already lost when he did that, but to top it off now all he can do is sit on his hands?
We had a chance to win this game until DA screwed the pooch this week.
Clevland – 25
Raiders – 3
November 29th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Raiders are now favored this weekend
November 29th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
The Broncos seem to be on the rebound, but what team wouldn’t be when you trade out Tebow/Orton for Peyton Manning.
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We have Carson Palmer.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Good to see DA has a little more sheriff in him than Roger Goodell.
Goodell has a hanful of guys, like McClain, who have shot a gun at people. Shot at people!!!!
No suspension.
Ro pops off to DA, gets suspended, maybe terminated from employment.
And yet Goodell suspends Big Ben because some dingbit chick regretted blowing him in the bathroom.
The blatant racism towards Hungarians is appalling.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Hire Monte Kiffin!!!
November 29th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
So you honestly believe Mark has more respect than his father in this league? Lol Yea ok, thats a good 1. The raiders are still the raiders in people’s mind, his dad was recognized as an awful owner and his son has proven to be no better with less football knowledge and dont tell me nothing about the respect Reggie has around the league because if he was so great why was he an assistant for almost 20 years and the only time he won a gm job is when he was interviewed by an owner who knows nothing about football and no other candidates were interviewed. Lmao you have to be a dumb mf to lose a race when there’s no competition. Point being though Reggie got looked over for years by teams who are ran like real organizations until he got handed the job by a rookie owner who didnt know any better… If he was truly great he wouldn’t be so easy to look over, and since hes taken over this team it has gotten worse so say what you will.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
We are doomed….bad coaches and bad players and no cap space and still not a full slate of draft picks.
Doomed for two more years at least. If Reggie doesn’t correct his mistakes this offseason (minimum of hiring two new coordinators, new oline coach and new st coach) then it might be three or four years before we can get out of this mess.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
A switch in coaches brings problems with BAD coaches. A change in coaches brings GOOD changes with GOOD coaches. See Denver (suddenly defense good rather than horrible). Indianapolis (it’s not just a rookie making them good) etc. etc. etc.
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You’re right. That first Bill Parcells season where the Giants went 3–12–1 was an anomaly. That first Jimmy Johnson season where the Cowboys regressed to 1-15 was an anomaly. Bill Belichick took the Patriots backwards to 5-11, but that was also an anomaly.
Those teams should have bailed on their coaches after a disastrous first season.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Truth hurts…. I know.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Truth is DA isnt bill parcells nor is he jimmy johnson. Hes more norv turner art shell 2.0.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Trush is nobody knows what DA is.
He is the youngest HC in the NFL. He has another 20 years of coaching ahead of him.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Reggie comes recommended by Ron Wolf, his mentor, and John Madden. Both ring wearers.
Reggie’s been an integral part of the Packers franchise for 20 winning years. And almost as many playoffs, he ain’t no affirmative action hire, ok?
What you think about his career path, is all prejudicial speculation.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
The Mack Says:
Truth is DA isnt bill parcells nor is he jimmy johnson. Hes more norv turner art shell 2.0.
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I’ll give him more than one season to prove it. Unfortunately for you, you’ll have to do the same. DA will still be HC in 2013. You’re going to lose this false war. Book it.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Director of player personnel
McKenzie was employed by the Green Bay Packers from 1994 to 2012. He began as a scout, and gradually rose through the ranks to become the Packers’ director of player personnel and eventually the team’s director of football operations, while reporting to general managers Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.[3]
November 29th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
This about sums it up. Sad but funny and true.
The times they are a changin.
http://whatdoumeme.com/meme/s6y5kw
November 29th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
216.Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
How bout coach better and stop scapegoating players.
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That was the Shannahan to Cable era. If you want that trash, go pop some tapes in of the last 2 decades.
Some of us around here are sick and tired of losing and the players on the field not being held accountable.
If you want the old way and the losing to continue, go cry at Al’s grave, because nobody in the current reggime is going to listen.
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There it is. Some folks just don’t seem capable of realizing that the only constant in all of this IS the players. Some of them have played in the same scheme for so long that they are in over their heads now that someone is trying to be reasonably creative. In my view, that’s why we haven’t been more diverse lately. The players blow so many assignments the coaches have to stick to the basics.
Can’t say that anyone’s immune to the boot, nor should anyone be. Look at the record over the last several years, then ask yourself if anyone getting his walking papers would matter.
If someone wants to challenge the scheme they’d better have something to back it up with, or they’re just bit*ching. DA wants players that are smart and disciplined. Can anyone really say with a straight face that there are more than one or two guys on the entire defense that fit that bill?
November 29th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Dakota Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
At a time when the raiders are dealing with one cancer on the team in Slowlando mclazy some of you are advocating drafting a loser drug addict player who could not even make it at lsu?????
Dumbest fans in America!
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This is exactly right. Do you ever hear of Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or Patrick Willis or Jared Allen in trouble? Do you ever hear of those guys getting kicked off their team? Do you realize that coaches HATE to kick good players off their teams. Those are the guys that get coaches $3mm a year. Players have to do some pretty BAD things to get kicked off the team. And some of you want MORE of those guys on our roster? smh
November 29th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Reggie Mack and Dennis BOTH have been pretty damn worthless and gutless until today,…those days of them trying to appease these players, to motivate them to simply do their damn jobs are over,…Reg and Dennis finally made a statement, and they aint done,…I expect a Raider blowout win Sunday,..as you know I will be there,…you locals, and you all know who you are, how bout make it out the house, buy a ticket,..support your team because as you know its not on tv locally,..(you can watch the Charger game if you like) Dont trip, this blog will be here when you get home. All good.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
DA is like lane kiffin, josh mcdaniels, Mike Nolan The HC one, Singletary, Jim Mora Jr with Knapp..
Somewhere in between all of them
November 29th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Jarred Allen = bad example
November 29th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Finally some good news ! Matt Leinart could be starting! Greg Knapp is a genius!
November 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
In my opinion McLain was much more a bust then Jamarcus,..not even close. A top pick QB is risky, not many pan out,…but a top ten LB should make an impact,…especially a highly decorated one,..what he was was an average LB on a dynamic Bama team with an amazing front line,…all scouts missed on him being untalented and a butt hole,…and of course that lyin punk Nick Saban said great things about him,..but hes a documented liar. Im right as usual.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Browns 27 Raiders 10
Richardson breaks 300 yrds rushing !
November 29th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Raiders +1.5 on my four team parlay card at Mont Bleu,..Raiders winning big. BIG.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
edward teach Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
There it is. Some folks just don’t seem capable of realizing that the only constant in all of this IS the players. Some of them have played in the same scheme for so long that they are in over their heads now that someone is trying to be reasonably creative. In my view, that’s why we haven’t been more diverse lately. The players blow so many assignments the coaches have to stick to the basics.
Can’t say that anyone’s immune to the boot, nor should anyone be. Look at the record over the last several years, then ask yourself if anyone getting his walking papers would matter.
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This is also exactly right. The only constant has been the players. Coaches have left here and been successful. Norphus has done well, Cable has done well, the assistants have done well. We haven’t done well. And what these players do not realize, is they think they are going to leave here, go to another team, and get more money. Tell that to Rob Gallery, Routt, Jarvis Moss, Mario Henderson and Chokie Lee Higgins.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Seriously I cant decide who the raider should take if Manti and MOORE is sitting there at the 3rd spot.
Or do they trade down. Or is Manti to good a leader to pass up. Someone that can change the franchise.. defense for years to come? a True D leader? Reggie was a backer too.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Raiders +1.5 on my four team parlay card at Mont Bleu
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Interesting, I see them at -1 on my online sites.
A point plus a hook??? Crazy-talk!!!!
That’s on the card though, curious what the board says there.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Jarred Allen = bad example
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Good point. He had a flurry of DUI’s over a short period but has been relatively clean.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Here in Tahoe Dallas went from 7.5 to 10.5 in a day,..damn.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
But my lock is New England -7.5,…Iv had them on about 8 cards all year,..theyve never cost me a card yet.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Houston -5.5 sounds easy,..but I didnt touch it.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Here in Tahoe Dallas went from 7.5 to 10.5 in a day,..damn.
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No Vick
November 29th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Steelers getting 8.5 sounds awesome,..first time in years that game with the Ravens isnt right at 3,…8.5?????????…they betting on no Big Ben,…if he plays its an easy cover and likely win. I took em.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
It wasnt Vick,…it was they see the Eagles have quit. Vick wasnt going to play anyway.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Monte Kiffin is leaving USC to look for a NFL job.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Spreads don’t move 3 points without player movement.
Come on, you know better then that.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Really Albert?…you got twitter too?…man, how cool.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Allen on McClain: ‘There’s going to be consequences to his actions’
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Can’t wait to find out exactly what ‘his actions’ were and hear Slo’s side of the story.
Whatever his transgressions were, I’m glad for them. Expedited his exit from Oaktown. Thank the Lord.
Watching the cement footed Slo moving like a glacier, jogging/giving up/not hustling, and whiffing was quite unbearable.
Kind of like watching Krapp’s offense. Run game erased. 3rd down futility. Red zone failure. Ineffective snooze fest.
Smiling Titty Boy is demonstrating he has what it takes to remove non-performing players with attitude problems, and that HE is the captain of the ship.
Good for him.
Does he have what it takes to dismiss non-performing staff members, as well ?
He better.
There’s consequences for lack of results too.
Yes, we understand Tits doesn’t have the horses – the personnel issues are clear as day and undeniable.
But Tits has to realize he’s accountable too.
You can NOT get BLOWN OUT week after week and expect to keep the fan base, the locker room, or your job.
One looks at this team and it’s hard to find an area where it HASN’T regressed.
Tits is 3-8 and this team isn’t improving – it’s getting worse.
Tits has 5 more games to reverse course.
Doesn’t have to win the remaining games. But the Raids have to at least be competitive. The blowouts can not continue.
Not if he wants to keep his job.
It’s really that simple.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Raider Fan Says:
Finally some good news ! Matt Leinart could be starting! Greg Knapp is a genius!
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Knapp doesn’t decide who starts at QB. Palmer has an injury that might have him sit Sunday.
Now that we all know that you know nothing about football, we’ll ignore you forever. Thanks for playing.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
They released Babin, team mailing it in..team quit on national tv,…Vick done for the year,..Vegas knows all that,..the spread was too low to begin with…Vick not part of that 3 point jump.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
A switch in coaches brings problems with BAD coaches. A change in coaches brings GOOD changes with GOOD coaches. See Denver (suddenly defense good rather than horrible). Indianapolis (it’s not just a rookie making them good) etc. etc. etc.
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You’re right. That first Bill Parcells season where the Giants went 3–12–1 was an anomaly. That first Jimmy Johnson season where the Cowboys regressed to 1-15 was an anomaly. Bill Belichick took the Patriots backwards to 5-11, but that was also an anomaly.
Those teams should have bailed on their coaches after a disastrous first season.
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There are examples of everything – it’s more of a rarity, than the norm. I’ve seen way more coaches that regress majorly the first year never move onwards from ther.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
WTF was Brees doing there???
That was the stupidest thing I ever seen
November 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Post 269 the thing is though the past 2 year many players looked to be improving now they all look to be regressing, not 1 player looks pro bowl worthy this year. Why didn’t they quit last year or the year before? Because cable and hue jack were actual coaches and leaders DA is a wimp and switches on the sideline has no fire what so over. People dont want to change coaches just for the sake of coaching they want to switch because this guy has the team regressing and has any player whos showed any type of promise last year playing like a below average joe. I mean as a fan watching hisw press conferences are uninspiring, so i could only imagine how inspiring hes not to those guys in the locker room which is why they get steam rolled every Sunday.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
In my opinion McLain was much more a bust then Jamarcus,..not even close. A top pick QB is risky, not many pan out,…but a top ten LB should make an impact
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I tend to agree, except when it comes to how much money was wasted on a guy who was supposed to be your franchise player. Rolando didn’t fleece the Raiders for near as much as Jamarcus did.
But the lesson to be learned from both of them: don’t draft “you people” players from the bottom-ranked education states of the SEC.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
By the way if Vick plays,..its 11.5
November 29th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Vegas knows all that,..
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They knew all that before the initial line was released.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Really Albert?…you got twitter too?…man, how cool.
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I do!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
By the way if Vick plays,..its 11.5
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Your making things up dude.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Iv hit 5 four team parlay cards so far this year,..60 bucks a card,…13/1….doin alright up here.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Bob, do you want to be twitter buddies?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Sorry dude,..Iv turned you down already, but thanks for trying.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
By the way if Vick plays,..its 11.5
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LMAO
November 29th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Killers don’t talk
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I will say Albert, you do need more followers,..pretty sad number dude.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Legacy titles for Sundays game:
2012 Toilet Bowl II
Game of Reckoning
Ground Rattling Draft Order Bowl
Has DA Lost The Team Game
Blackouts Are Back Baby!
Raider Players vs Raider Coaches Game
Truth Is Forthcoming Game
For What It’s Worth Matinee
Allen Nutts On The Table Game
Tailgating Will Offer More Game
Shipwrecked
Mutiny At The O
DA And Knapp Display Game
Really. See if there is any pride or desire for the players to want to play for this staff. Brilliant well payed athletes being given a game plan that’s inferior to most Division II schools. Unbelievable.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Here is the situation. In his rookie year, rolando McClain threatened a coach during a dream meeting. He had to be put back in place by his teammates. To those of you who ink “go get him rolando” th dudes not well respected or liked by many of his teammates (for verification you can check out Vic Tafur’s stuff today). The organizational decisions not mark stepping in. It is how to release him that is best for the team. The guy leaves a lot to be desired, not only as a football player, but he also has a lot of work to do as a human being. I cannot believe that some early posters think rolando was doing anything positive for our team. Good lord he said ‘can’t wait to play for a real team.’ And some of you cheer that? Crazy.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
296.The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Post 269 the thing is though the past 2 year many players looked to be improving now they all look to be regressing, not 1 player looks pro bowl worthy this year. Why didn’t they quit last year or the year before? Because cable and hue jack were actual coaches and leaders DA is a wimp and switches on the sideline has no fire what so over. People dont want to change coaches just for the sake of coaching they want to switch because this guy has the team regressing and has any player whos showed any type of promise last year playing like a below average joe. I mean as a fan watching hisw press conferences are uninspiring, so i could only imagine how inspiring hes not to those guys in the locker room which is why they get steam rolled every Sunday.
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Sorry, which players on defense are playing worse than they did last year?
And I keep reading about Allen’s “losing the team”, or “losing the locker room”. The guys that are actually IN the locker room (like the players, and the beat writers) are saying the exact opposite. They are saying that Allen’s message is a good one, that guys are buying in and working hard and know that it’s going to take awhile but are confident that things are going to turn out right.
Are people hoping he’s lost the team, or what?
November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Raider Fan Says:
Finally some good news ! Matt Leinart could be starting! Greg Knapp is a genius!
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Knapp doesn’t decide who starts at QB. Palmer has an injury that might have him sit Sunday.
Now that we all know that you know nothing about football, we’ll ignore you forever. Thanks for playing.
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The thing is that our personnel don’t fit Knapp, but our back-ups do. So it was good that Mc Fadden got hurt as they kept trying to shove that square peg in the round hole.
It might be supprising to see dink-and-dunk Leinart play in Knapp’s passing offense and the “timing” suddenly will loook better.
Not saying that either of the back-ups are better players than the starters, but aren’t as good of fits for what Knapp stubbornly tries to force in.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Sorry dude,..Iv turned you down already, but thanks for trying.
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That’s OK. It would probably lower my Klout score being associated with someone of your ilk.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I will say Albert, you do need more followers,..pretty sad number dude.
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I don’t try very hard. I’m no KoolKell.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
The players ALWAYS say it’s not a problem with scheme and that they agree with it and just need to work harder. At least until the guy’s fired and then they speak up.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Are people hoping he’s lost the team, or what?
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Yes, we have a faction on here that prices being right ahead of anything else.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Albert,..you are following the fake old man kell,..that was only one of my reasons for saying no to you,..then blocking you. Sorry.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
308 lol good post Los
November 29th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
edward teach Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
296.The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Post 269 the thing is though the past 2 year many players looked to be improving now they all look to be regressing, not 1 player looks pro bowl worthy this year. Why didn’t they quit last year or the year before? Because cable and hue jack were actual coaches and leaders DA is a wimp and switches on the sideline has no fire what so over. People dont want to change coaches just for the sake of coaching they want to switch because this guy has the team regressing and has any player whos showed any type of promise last year playing like a below average joe. I mean as a fan watching hisw press conferences are uninspiring, so i could only imagine how inspiring hes not to those guys in the locker room which is why they get steam rolled every Sunday.
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Sorry, which players on defense are playing worse than they did last year?
And I keep reading about Allen’s “losing the team”, or “losing the locker room”. The guys that are actually IN the locker room (like the players, and the beat writers) are saying the exact opposite. They are saying that Allen’s message is a good one, that guys are buying in and working hard and know that it’s going to take awhile but are confident that things are going to turn out right.
Are people hoping he’s lost the team, or what?
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Players say “I don’t know what’s wrong, but we’ll keep working at it”. Of course they don’t say “it’ all the coaches fault”. They’re the players. They’re supposed to “execute”. That doesn’t mean that they coudln’t be put in better positions.
Heck, McFadden talks about how much he loves “Knapp’s ZBS” now that he’s back, yet when he was doing well he said it was because he went away from that he started doing well.
Coach speak and players speak don’t say much. Their actions do. The results do.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Bob,
How did those two dumies show any guts? They are still waiting on someelse to make a finasl decision.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Albert,..you are following the fake old man kell,..that was only one of my reasons for saying no to you,..then blocking you. Sorry.
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Did I follow you? I don’t know even know who you are.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Does Jerry and Cork and Paul and Vic all follow you?…do Raiders follow you?…they do me.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
No Albert you tried to but I blocked you immidiately…sorry. I didnt like that colonial avi of yours.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
It’s been real peeps
November 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Sounds like you have quite the cast of losers following you, Bob.
No offense….
November 29th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
144.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
lol Hey Oak!
As a Raider fan, you should root for every player on the team. I don’t care who is the QB, I root for them and roll with the punches. Instead of blaming Palmer when the whole team is collapsing around him.
I hope Pryor becomes the man and does big things!
=================================== Cheif,you must have me confused.I have never one time bad mouthed Palmer.I have always defended the Palmer trade in part because Im a Hue fan,and also believe Palmer is the best qb we have had since Gannon.If Pryor gets the nod.Cool whatever.My problem is with Reggie and the staff.I hate them and believe they have done everything posible to ruin this team.Didnt make the playoffs last year but sure the hell was alot closer then now.Anyone who cant see that is just a retard and temps my patience.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
My followers are in the thousands,..just sayin.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Palmer nursing sore thumb, McFadden ready to give it a go Quarterback Carson Palmer was limited in practice today as a result of sore right thumb. This came as a bit of a surprise, given Palmer practiced full tilt the day before. Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said Palmer hurt his thumb against the Bengal… [...]
November 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
But the schedule is tougher, Reggiehater. Didn’t anyone tell you how unfair it is to have to fly back east and play a morning game?
Excuses….
November 29th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Is that really Rolado McClain’s twitter?
“Aspiring to be a Hall of Famer”
Good luck with that Slo
November 29th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Another Al Davis crappy first round pick? Jesus, it seems like Al missed on every 1st round pick the last 12 years, worst GM the last 10 years.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Goin back to Mont Bleu for the second half,…adios.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Does Jerry and Cork and Paul and Vic all follow you?…do Raiders follow you?…they do me.
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No, but you are a liar. Jerry doesn’t follow you.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
310 you really believe the players are going to say something negative? They never do even if its a train wreck they wont say it publicly. But Seymour was probowl worthy last year, kelly was a pro bowl alternate last year until they switched him from a 3 technique pass rusher to a space eater, shaugnessy showed promise before DA got here, he waited til the season started to switch huff to corner when hue already knew what needed to be done. Dmacs regressed, heyward bey has regressed from last year, D moore has regressed, wiz has regressed, briesel is his Guy, Branch was talked about around the league and we didnt give up as many points. DA is trash the record and scoreboard proves it.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Coach speak and players speak don’t say much. Their actions do. The results do.
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Which is why Mistic is correct in saying that this is a “legacy game”.
He’s got it a little backwards, though. Come Monday morning I don’t think I’d want to be one of the players that gave less than 100% or wasn’t doing his job correctly.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
332.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Does Jerry and Cork and Paul and Vic all follow you?…do Raiders follow you?…they do me.
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No, but you are a liar. Jerry doesn’t follow you.
================================================== This snapperhead predicted playoffs this year.Following him would be an embarresment.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
310 you really believe the players are going to say something negative? They never do even if its a train wreck they wont say it publicly. But Seymour was probowl worthy last year, kelly was a pro bowl alternate last year until they switched him from a 3 technique pass rusher to a space eater, shaugnessy showed promise before DA got here, he waited til the season started to switch huff to corner when hue already knew what needed to be done. Dmacs regressed, heyward bey has regressed from last year, D moore has regressed, wiz has regressed, briesel is his Guy, Branch was talked about around the league and we didnt give up as many points. DA is trash the record and scoreboard proves it.
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It’s true, literally everyone I can think of regressed. And when the defensive players regress from a “Bresnehan Defense” you know you’re doing something MAJORLY wrong!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
I don’t know how reliable this twitter guy is, but…
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash 4m
I’m being told that Allen went toe to toe with McClain did not back down, actually McClain was the one who backed down,Reggie sent him home
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash 1m
This incident may bring the Raiders closer as a team, I’m being told that pretty much everyone hates McClain besides Tommy Kelly
November 29th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
The one regression that pisses me off more then any is DHB.I was really high on him this year and this system destroyed any chance of a good year.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
337.RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
I don’t know how reliable this twitter guy is, but…
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash 4m
I’m being told that Allen went toe to toe with McClain did not back down, actually McClain was the one who backed down,Reggie sent him home
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash 1m
This incident may bring the Raiders closer as a team, I’m being told that pretty much everyone hates McClain besides Tommy Kelly
===================================================== Mclain was probably afraid that the transvestite would try an kiss him or something.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
I don’t know how reliable this twitter guy is, but…
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash 4m
I’m being told that Allen went toe to toe with McClain did not back down, actually McClain was the one who backed down,Reggie sent him home
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash 1m
This incident may bring the Raiders closer as a team, I’m being told that pretty much everyone hates McClain besides Tommy Kelly
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I asked him about the Reggie presser. He didn’t even know about it. So he may not be too reliable.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Speaking of Parlay Cards…
I don’t advocate ‘parlay’ wagers as a rule – but there’s some value in the cards – especially when there are line movements (and the books don’t take the game ‘OFF’ the card) and bcz of the half point/hook factor on most cards.
Presents some potentially lucrative opportunities if you want to play the board’s number against the card’s number and hope to hit a few ’sides’ or ‘middles’.
One of the best cards IMO is the ‘Pleaser’ card.
That puppy pays 26 for 1 if you hit a 3 teamer.
Course it ain’t easy to do, you’re either laying or taking 7 extra/fewer points on a game – but when you’ve got a team like the Raids getting destroyed every week – 7 points is chicken feed.
If you look for teams that have packed it in, are playing no defense – or conversely, look for teams that can score points like crazy – they’re not as difficult to hit as one would imagine.
Quite a few books have stopped offering that card.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
I asked him about the Reggie presser. He didn’t even know about it. So he may not be too reliable.
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Yeah, it could be some joker from this blog. Someone posted a link to that twitter account earlier. I had never seen it before.
Oh well. I’m out for today. Have a good evening, Nation!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
In my opinion McLain was much more a bust then Jamarcus,..not even close. A top pick QB is risky, not many pan out,…but a top ten LB should make an impact
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I tend to agree, except when it comes to how much money was wasted on a guy who was supposed to be your franchise player. Rolando didn’t fleece the Raiders for near as much as Jamarcus did.
But the lesson to be learned from both of them: don’t draft “you people” players from the bottom-ranked education states of the SEC.
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Rolando was by far a bigger bust than Jamarcus.
No QB was going to succeed with our team during that time, let alone a rookie one. Jamarcus never stood a chance.
Rolando on the other hand never gave it a chance. He’s been mailing it in since day one.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Mack,
1. Seymour has been hurt or banged up virtually all season, is one year older and hasn’t been as effective as he was last year because of that. Truth be told, one could say he made the Pro Bowl last year on reputation alone and not be too far off base.
2. Kelly hasn’t been as effective because he hasn’t had Seymour next to him as much. Need evidence that it matters? Look at how he played before Seymour got here.
3. Shaughnessy was hurt almost the entire season last year, no way to tell how much that’s affected him this year.
4. Huff has done well at corner this year, but had Bartell and Spencer not both gone down at almost the same time there would have been no need to play him there.
5. Don’t know what to tell you about Branch. I don’t think he’s any different than he was last year. Didn’t understand the hype then, don’t understand it now.
Offense is a different story. I wasn’t in favor of changing it up, but I understand it. McFadden has proven time and again that he can’t stay healthy, and you just can’t build an offense around a guy like that. The average career for an NFL running back is four years, for crying out loud. Much easier to get a regular guy that you don’t have to pay an arm and a leg for and hope he stays healthy. Frees up money for impact players at other positions, like defensive end, cornerback and wide receiver.
I’d like to see better results right now, too. I just understand that this thing is being remade and that it ain’t gonna happen overnight. Those of you that aren’t buying that are in for some frustration, I’m afraid.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
I hit a 3 team reverse moneyline parlay card once in the college bowl season, paid like 35 to 1 or something.
Basically taking a bunch of 7 point dogs or more to win.
But the wise guys don’t touch those things. Any of the cards.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
296.The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Post 269 the thing is though the past 2 year many players looked to be improving now they all look to be regressing, not 1 player looks pro bowl worthy this year. Why didn’t they quit last year or the year before? Because cable and hue jack were actual coaches and leaders DA is a wimp and switches on the sideline has no fire what so over. People dont want to change coaches just for the sake of coaching they want to switch because this guy has the team regressing and has any player whos showed any type of promise last year playing like a below average joe. I mean as a fan watching hisw press conferences are uninspiring, so i could only imagine how inspiring hes not to those guys in the locker room which is why they get steam rolled every Sunday.
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Sorry, which players on defense are playing worse than they did last year?
And I keep reading about Allen’s “losing the team”, or “losing the locker room”. The guys that are actually IN the locker room (like the players, and the beat writers) are saying the exact opposite. They are saying that Allen’s message is a good one, that guys are buying in and working hard and know that it’s going to take awhile but are confident that things are going to turn out right.
Are people hoping he’s lost the team, or what?
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Yes they are hoping he’s lost the team, so it will fit their agenda.
I mean seriously, you have these idiots in here making grand speculations as to what they think the players think behind closed doors and then they use those speculations to support their argument as if it is fact.
It’s so funny. It’s amazing any of you even can hold a job with being so stupid.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I will say Albert, you do need more followers,..pretty sad number dude.
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I don’t try very hard. I’m no KoolKell.
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You got that right.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Mark Jackson took a near .500 team to almost dead last in the West last season.
This season, we look poised to make the playoffs.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Danilo Galinari is my wave of the future.
Big, Italian guys, who shoot 3’s and can bang a little for a 3, with hella cool names.
When he played for the Knicks it was awesome.
(DAAAA-NE-LEE-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GAAAAAAL-AA-NAAAAARRRRR-AAAA)
November 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Tell em Riff!
November 29th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Its amazing that are some idiots here that actually think the other players on the team are going to side with Rolando and tank the Cleveland game in support.
hahahaha. It will be the exact opposite.
Rolando was not well liked. We’ll start hearing stuff as soon as he’s gone from his former teammates.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
348.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Mark Jackson took a near .500 team to almost dead last in the West last season.
This season, we look poised to make the playoffs.
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You gotta break a few eggs, as the old-timers would say.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
But the wise guys don’t touch those things. Any of the cards.
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Generally true, and for good reason.
Anything more than a 2 teamer is tough and there’s a 3 game minimum on every card I’ve ever seen.
But there are circumstances that can make the cards worthwhile.
Games with large movements and books that are slow to react and take the game off the card.
I’ve seen printing errors on cards that went undiscovered until the book was getting ridiculous amounts of action on it.
Hard to believe that can happen but it does.
November 29th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
honestly i dont know where everyone kept getting this Friday Reggie presser from?
Its was a fake mark davis twitter that said reggie was having a presser on friday.. and CORKY RT’d him.
I think Cork didnt realize it was a fake
November 29th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
But there are circumstances that can make the cards worthwhile.
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Agreed, the tie wins on the 3 point spreads, or the half point cards to get the extra hook on some.
But generally they are luring you in to take more teams then you really should.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Cork talks to the front office off the record all the time, he wouldn’t get duped like that. He would make a call and have an answer in 30 seconds.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Cork confirmed the presser.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I will say Albert, you do need more followers,..pretty sad number dude.
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I don’t try very hard. I’m no KoolKell.
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You got that right. No matter how many KoolKell Twitter accounts you create.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Its amazing that are some idiots here that actually think the other players on the team are going to side with Rolando and tank the Cleveland game in support.
hahahaha. It will be the exact opposite.
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Yeah, wouldn’t want to be the guy that didn’t bring it on Sunday. Might not make it to Tuesday.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
JFB, don’t forget our wager, bud.
5 blog credibility points says that Slo is out of the NFL in 2 years.
Anyway, off to the casino to eat a buffet.
Been getting my azz kicked the last week playing video poker. Down over 2k on dumb plays. Tilt.
Need to back off and stop firing baby.
Have a good one, gents.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Saw some guys earlier talking about the Honey Badger well here is my take.
Reggie shouldn’t use anything higher than a 3rd on him. But 4th on down I would jump at it.
Forget about his size and whether he can cover this or cover that. The best comparison I can give you guys is DeAngelo Hall. Yeah Hall gets beat but what corner doesn’t. But everytime you see a Redskins defensive highlight, Hall is picking off a pass.
Well, as far as making plays getting the ball back for our offense, Honey Badger makes Hall look like DVD. He is almost always at the right place at the right time.
I’ll give you another name: Charles Woodson (at Green Bay). John Chavis lines up Honey Badger all over the place like Packers line up Woodson. He blitzes, covers RBs, TEs, and WRs. He pro position is the slot no doubt.
If a team only uses him on punt returns, it will be just like the Jets and Tebow. Just wasting the player.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
As I reported 7 months ago, McClain acts like a thug, just like DVD did while he was here
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Very surprised they are actually cutting players in the middle of the week. I’m being told that they could not go another day with McClain
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
It’s a circus right now, I’m just finding all this out now so bare with me: Story goes that McClain got in Allens face talked trash to him
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
MClain told Allen that basically he sucks and none of the players like him or care about winning for him. Allen then told him to get out
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
I’m being told that Allen went toe to toe with McClain did not back down, actually McClain was the one who backed down,Reggie sent him home
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Raiders were going to release him right away, McClain is a goner either way but they are trying to get him suspended
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
The reasons are, They don’t want to “reward” him for his behavior and go get signed by say the Chargers and bring the Raiders playbook
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Needless to say if the Raiders can not get him suspended then they will just cut him
Tommy Kelly will be the next to go
November 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
@chavaguerra DVD had a bad attitude and he could not tackle but none of the Raiders can so can’t fault him for that
November 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
REPORT: Tommy Kelly may be the next to go STAY TUNED..Money is no longer a issue they want players “who care and want to buy in”
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
DA is a lame duck coach…no offense quack…
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Its amazing that are some idiots here that actually think the other players on the team are going to side with Rolando and tank the Cleveland game in support.
hahahaha. It will be the exact opposite.
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Yeah, wouldn’t want to be the guy that didn’t bring it on Sunday. Might not make it to Tuesday.
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According to Vic Tafur, some players took offense to Rolando’s comments.
The players who are left on this team doing what they can to right this ship have everything to prove to throw it back in Rolando’s face. He’s basically given his team bulliten board material this week. Which is pretty pathetic when you think about it.
At least Jamarcus won us some games. What the hell has Rolando EVER done to help us? Not a damn thing.
He’s a quitter. The going is getting rough and he just wants to bail. When instead he should have taken the offer DA made. DA wanted Rolando to be his leader on D and he has turned it down.
I so wish Romo was on this team playing. He would have beat the living snot out of Rolando.
For a good read, check out Monte Poole’s article from today. It’s great.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
5 blog credibility points says that Slo is out of the NFL in 2 years
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Well, if it ain’t here, I hope you win.
Video poker?? I hope that buffet is comped good buddy.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Trent Richardson will run for 300 yards against this defense.
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Believe it or not but in the 2 games McClain has missed the Raiders have givin up an average of 38 ppg and 267 yards rushing per game. I think Richardson has a very good chance at getting close to 300 yards, not sayin McClain is a beast or anything but who the fk is goin to start at MLB? Curry is gone and Goethel on IR again. So who is this LB thats goin to be the MLB? Did we just pick him up or something, practice squad?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
This is the first step, As I reported last week there will be even more changes to come. More releases coming
November 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
REPORT: Tommy Kelly may be the next to go STAY TUNED..Money is no longer a issue they want players “who care and want to buy in”
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DA’s new nickname needs to be “Chemo”
He’s ridding us of all the locker room cancers.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
needs
DE-young fa’s avail avril johnson
MlB-young fa’s avail maualuga
NT-young fa’s avail knighton
CB-young fa’s avail rogers-cromartie
#1 WR- young fa’s avail jennings wallace bowe
FS (if huff stays at cb)-young avail fa’s byrd delmas landry goldson moore
c if you move wiz to lg or lg if you keep wiz as is=draft
so who would you go after in FA, and what positions do you draft for?
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follow Indianapolis’ blue print. – pass rusher/run stopper, defensive back help and some OL. Except instead of a QB get an RB. – Raiders have at least 12 free agents who wont be asked back, in addition to Leinart, McClain and trade bloc types; Lamar Houston and Darren McFadden.
The Colts got DE Cory Redding, SS Tom Zbikowski, WR Donnie Avery, NT Brandon McKinney, OG Mike McGlynn, C Samson Satele, and QB Drew Stanton. They also traded a 2012 6th round pick in to the Eagles (the former employers for current Colts G.M. Ryan Grigson) for RT Winston Justice.
thats 8 free agents, then 7-8 more draft picks
draft picks
Chance Warmack, OG
Kwame Geathers, DT/NT
Jordan Poyer, CB
Kevin Reddick, ILB, N.Carolina or Robert Lester, S, Alabama
Stepfan Williams, RB, Stanford or S Shane Williams, Georgia
Mark Jackson, OL, Glenvill E St.
Brandon Williams, DT, Missour Southern
FA
Connor Barwin or DE Randy Starks
CB Dominique Rodgers Cromartie
DL Sammie Lee Hill or Cliff Averill
Bernard Scott, RB or LaRod Stephens-Howling
QB Matt Moore (to back up Palmer or T.Pryor)
DeAndre Levy, ILB
TE Dante Rosario
CB Sterling Moore
S Louis Delmas or William Moore
S Yeremiah Bell or Kerry Rhodes
November 29th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
As I reported 7 months ago, McClain acts like a thug, just like DVD did while he was here
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Very surprised they are actually cutting players in the middle of the week. I’m being told that they could not go another day with McClain
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
It’s a circus right now, I’m just finding all this out now so bare with me: Story goes that McClain got in Allens face talked trash to him
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
MClain told Allen that basically he sucks and none of the players like him or care about winning for him. Allen then told him to get out
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
I’m being told that Allen went toe to toe with McClain did not back down, actually McClain was the one who backed down,Reggie sent him home
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Raiders were going to release him right away, McClain is a goner either way but they are trying to get him suspended
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
The reasons are, They don’t want to “reward” him for his behavior and go get signed by say the Chargers and bring the Raiders playbook
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Needless to say if the Raiders can not get him suspended then they will just cut him
Tommy Kelly will be the next to go
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Great post. Thanks for adding.
If those reports are true, thats some pretty damning accusations.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Its amazing that are some idiots here that actually think the other players on the team are going to side with Rolando and tank the Cleveland game in support.
hahahaha. It will be the exact opposite.
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Yeah, wouldn’t want to be the guy that didn’t bring it on Sunday. Might not make it to Tuesday.
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According to Vic Tafur, some players took offense to Rolando’s comments.
The players who are left on this team doing what they can to right this ship have everything to prove to throw it back in Rolando’s face. He’s basically given his team bulliten board material this week. Which is pretty pathetic when you think about it.
At least Jamarcus won us some games. What the hell has Rolando EVER done to help us? Not a damn thing.
He’s a quitter. The going is getting rough and he just wants to bail. When instead he should have taken the offer DA made. DA wanted Rolando to be his leader on D and he has turned it down.
I so wish Romo was on this team playing. He would have beat the living snot out of Rolando.
For a good read, check out Monte Poole’s article from today. It’s great.
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The team buys in or eventually folds against a Cleveland team that is sky high after their first win over Pittsburgh in some time.
key is to stop Richardson, and it wont be easy.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I can’t see the Honey Badger playing rover on a bad team, in the NFL.
Maybe for a team like the Pats, playing with a lead all the time and with a lot of talet around.
But he ain’t going to the Chiefs and playing rover.
Still think he can be a Pro Bowl return man though. Dude makes people miss like no other.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
If thats true what MCcLAin did to Coach DA.. then Rolando is a str8 up punk.
Something happened.. it could be between those lines. Either way thats a punk..no disrespectful thing to do to COACH DA.
See ya. Like Rock Cartwright said.. you dont want to be that kinda guy labeled in the League. Once you start to become “uncoachable” u wont be in nfl for long.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Falcons just get amazing value with all their draft picks.
Dimitroff is a stats geek, Saber-metric type guy.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I don’t agree with Monte on how the Raiders dealt with McClain. The whole McClain situation has been botched from the beginning. Hue should have suspended McClain and immediately set the consequences then. When BigMac and Junior stepped in, the bottom line needed to be determined in the pre-season. Now it has reached the disaster point.
How many more players feel this way? When and why did the players tune Junior out?
The bay area press is still giving BigMac and Junior a pass, given the difference when Mr. Davis and John Herrera dealt with them. But, Junior’s inexperience as a head coach and leader are at the bottom of all the insanity that’s going on in the locker room, it’s very easy to see how the bay area media is siding with the coaches and BigMac.
McClain is a knucklehead with a Butkus Award on his resume, that was one of Mr. Davis obsessions, to take high risks and give these knucleheads a chance, too many disapointments to list.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
If thats true what MCcLAin did to Coach DA.. then Rolando is a str8 up punk.
Something happened.. it could be between those lines. Either way thats a punk..no disrespectful thing to do to COACH DA.
See ya. Like Rock Cartwright said.. you dont want to be that kinda guy labeled in the League. Once you start to become “uncoachable” u wont be in nfl for long.
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No doubt.
The worst thing about it for me, is that DA wanted Rolando to be “his guy”. When the coach tries and hand you the keys to the car and you return the favor with this type of crap…. it just doesnt get any lower.
But this was long overdue. Hue was planning on gutting this team after they gave up on him down the stretch last year. Now that DA has drawn first blood, he isnt going to stop here.
I cant wait to see who goes next.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Read the article, Riff. Thanks. Amazing that anyone could defend him, but if one thing’s certain it’s that some on this blog will blame everyone but the player for his own actions.
Be interesting to see what happens next.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Well I guess the best way to stomach the Honey Badger if you don’t believe in him as a defender is just don’t watch the game. Just check the stats after the game and marvel at the numbers. Or follow game on the computer where you just see words and lines moving up down left and right.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RAIDER Riff so im a idiot because you dont agree with me? Gtfoh you sound like a hoe. These guys come out and get blew out almost every sunday, look defeated in almost every press conference ,and you think im pulling the fact that DA is uninspiring as a coach out my a$$ and that i have an agenda?? I havee no agenda and ive never been stupid I just call it how I see it and these guys are playing uninspired football across the board. Last week they got steam rolled from the out set but came out in the third playing with a lil inspiration thanks to Carson and a few other players because ya boi DA said nothing and that’s out his own mouth. If carson can get them to player harder the head coach should be able to, and the last thing he should be doing when his guys are getting creamed is sitting back and saying nothing. You dont have to agree but ever call me stupid save that for your b!t(# because you’re not always right here partner.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Rolando McClain seems to have a lot of Milton Bradley in him.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Wow this blog has so many smart guys who know so much about football . Playing Madden and being 3rd string in high school really has helped out your football IQ .I’M glad the Raiders are going to suck for the next 10 years you filthy “fans” deserve it! LOSERS!
November 29th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Falcons just get amazing value with all their draft picks.
Dimitroff is a stats geek, Saber-metric type guy.
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Stable leadership has a lot to do with that. Arthur Blank is a very good owner. It trickles down from there.
Owner, GM, and HC are all on the same page. How can a player not succeed in that environment?
We used to know what that looked like. About 25+ years ago when Flores was the coach. Gruden was a anomoly that actually did well with the tension. But other than that, our front office has been a battlezone.
Thankfully, Mark, Amy, Reggie, and DA are all on the same page. Stability will go a long way for our team and future.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RAIDER Riff so im a idiot because you dont agree with me? Gtfoh you sound like a hoe. These guys come out and get blew out almost every sunday, look defeated in almost every press conference ,and you think im pulling the fact that DA is uninspiring as a coach out my a$$ and that i have an agenda?? I havee no agenda and ive never been stupid I just call it how I see it and these guys are playing uninspired football across the board. Last week they got steam rolled from the out set but came out in the third playing with a lil inspiration thanks to Carson and a few other players because ya boi DA said nothing and that’s out his own mouth. If carson can get them to player harder the head coach should be able to, and the last thing he should be doing when his guys are getting creamed is sitting back and saying nothing. You dont have to agree but ever call me stupid save that for your b!t(# because you’re not always right here partner.
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You really believe this team didn’t get crushed last year when faced good teams?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
These guys underrate stability, they don’t know what Stability can do for the team, Pitts is considered to be the model franchise, they have had only 3 coaches over the past 40+ years , our team had 3 in last 3 years lol
November 29th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RAIDER Riff so im a idiot because you dont agree with me?
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What is there to agree with?
You make claims that DA has lost the locker room, and then when someone calls you out on it and asks for evidence, you reply with what you speculate the players are thinking.
All this despite reports from the media that DA hasnt lost this team.
And you really wonder why I call you out?
You dont like DA. Fine. But dont make up stuff that is the COMPLETE opposite to support your agenda. That is just idiotic.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
losing stability…we got it this year…
November 29th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Drew Brees 16 INTs
Carson Palmer 12 INTs
November 29th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Brees 5 Ints…wow
November 29th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
389.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Drew Brees 16 INTs
Carson Palmer 12 INTs
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Yeah, but he doesn’t have Carson’s awesome receiving corp…
November 29th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
losing stability…we got it this year…
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So you prefer the previous reggimes idea of stability?
We used to be so stable, that we fired Shanahan and that came back to bite us in the a55
We used to be so stable, that we hired a Bed & Breakfast OC because nobody else would take the job
We used to be so stable, that we traded away the best coach since Madden and he beats us in the SB the following year
We used to be so stable, that Sean Peyton turned down working for us
We used to be so stable, that Bill Bellicheat turned down working for us
We used to be so stable, that Jim Harbaugh only needed one season to learn the grass is greener on the other side of the bay
We used to be so stable, that Randy Moss left us because we were such a mess and then he goes and sets records
I can go on and on and on and…..
November 29th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Palmer still finished with better rating than JC had against Whiners even with 5 int’s
November 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Don’t worry about Al_the_troll , he’s jus trolling he’s not even Raiders fan
November 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
I meant Jason Campbell not palmer
November 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Priest’s “future 25ppg” scorer Harrison Barnes has 2 points at the half.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
So during day he’s in here with reggie hater now with al_the_troll
November 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Link to Pooles article?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Brees 5 Ints…wow
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Dumb penalties in the red zone + dropped TD passes + other mistakes = Losing a game you should win
They put Brees in a impossible position.
We know it all too well.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Drew Brees 1 Super bowl Ring
Carson Palmer not a god damn thing ! and a del mar duche bag !
November 29th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Yeah you sure is a raider fan lol why even both with that ID, why not just i hate the Raiders or I am just a troll ??? are they all taken up or something?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Morrilla,
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_22092808/poole-raiders-did-all-they-could-rolando-mcclain
Go read Vic Tafurs as well.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Tim tebow = 1 playoff win
Carson Palmer = 1 playoff apearance 10 years ago
Trade for Tebow !
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Mc20… player’s and coaches fighting coaches is stability to you? 3-8 is stability to you? We got blew out in only 2 games last year, GB and NE both were hot teams and we lost to GB in gb, but even though we weren’t perfect last year there was no where near this much dysfunction. McCLain never tried to fight hue, he never tried to fight cabes, is just a pure lack of respect he has for DA, and im sure hes not the only one who sees this guy as a clown because half of us fans see him as a clown. If we can see it the players see it magnified. To be honest I dislike the new owner, dislike the new gm, dislike the new coaching staff, dislike these basic @$$ football players they’ve brought in this season …. Call me what you will but with all thats gone wrong with this team and the dumb @$$ moves they’ve made sin e letting go of hue im seriously considering looking for a new team because the raiders have become a joke, McClain said he wants to play for a real team well i feel him because I want to cheer for a real team and the raiders dont seem to be it…
November 29th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Mcfadden 20 = super troll trick
Raider fan = super cool guy !
November 29th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
GO ahead Mack, go root for the Whiners, don’t let the door hit you on the way out
November 29th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
or how about mcxcuse20?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
GB Game came when we were fighting for playoffs, if we go down 34-0 against anytime while in position to win , we were not good enough anyways , the week before we lost to Miami 34-14 , we were lucky we didn’t lose by over 50 points cuz they took the pedal off the gas after they took 34-0 leading going into the 4th , so that’s 2 straight weeks in a row going down 34-0, with playoffs on line, what do you call that?
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Thanks Riff, about to check them out.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
on cue…
November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Good teams win when they really need to win, we would have lost against Chicago if cutler played, we would have lost again KC if seymour didn’t get lucky with the block on game winning FG try by KC kicker, sorry to disappoint you guys, despite 8 wins we were not good enough to beat good teams and we were still not good enough to make the playoffs
November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
2 lucky weeks kinda saved us from finishing 0-6 down the stretch, how f8kin embarrasing is that? lost 4 and barely beat cutler less chicago and KC team that had nothing to play for
November 29th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Raider Fan Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Drew Brees 1 Super bowl Ring
Carson Palmer not a god damn thing ! and a del mar duche bag !
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But one more playoff appearance and games started THAN YOU.
crying isnt changing anything….except maybe your diapers.
Man up, get on board, or hit the Niners bandwagon.
1 NATION
November 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
would coulda shoulda…mcxcusing…
November 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Idiots for not putting complete trust in DA?
If this were Parcells or Holmgren or some other HC with prior success it would be easier to say ‘be patient…DA’s got this..be patient guys’, but he doesn’t.
We can only judge DA on what he has done thus far. Yes be patient maybe, but it’s not idiocy to have doubts about a guy who hasn’t done anything yet.
“Let’s have a little bit of perspective here for a minute”.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I bet missdick is secretly hoping kevin art starts and does just well enuff to keep the job. That way he can still do his daily rant about Pryor. A lot better than seeing Pryor play and fail. Then he would have to do priest’s “it’s unfair. He doesn’t get the help or development time of white qb’s” thing.
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gradkowki raider,
you are the strangest person i have ever encountered on a blog. this is like watching fight club or identity.
men that cross post are like men that cross dress, you have to question their man hood.
cross posting just to incite discord, argue with your self, and agree with yourself at other times is no different than masturbating in public.
You have taken trolling to an entirely different level.
You are a creeper
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LOL! this is awesome. missdick is so confused. he swears up and down i’m a cross poster. must make him feel better to think all of the many posters calling him a racist idiot are really just one or two guys.
u wasted a lot of time trying to figure this out kid. i’ve never posted as anyone but me. i don’t need to. i tell u all the time ur an idiot.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Rolando McClain seems to have a lot of Milton Bradley in him.
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Milton Bradley produced, and produced big in the clutch. mcLame has never done anything.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
SR Raider Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Well we will find out shortly if the team is revolting, or if Rolando is a lone wolf.
He is being scapegoated, and The Reggie will probably piggy-back of that tomorrow.
They go out a lay a stinker at home against a last placed team, well there is your answer. Revolt.
They go out and win. There you have it, they support coach over #55.
The proverbial fork in the road.
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yep
if it was a desperate attempt to try and take control then the players will simply roll their eyes and you will see by their effort on sunday.
so far to be honest this kid seems to be josh McDaniel and bill Callahan rolled into one, except those guys at least more initial success than da
brown vs raiders must see tv
a legacy game for allen
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LOL!!! it just keeps going! a legacy game (has anyone ever said that besides this guy?) for a coach in his 12th game ever. too funny.
u can’t help urself. do u jerk off to pryor every nite?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
So glad Falcons beat the Saints. They ran up the score to get Brees that record…i knew pay back was coming.
REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Brees really had SIX (6) int’s. One was called back for d being offsides.
His TD streak ended tonight too.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Glad I started the falcons D this week!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Curry to McLame: “Chipolte good!!!”
Two players with bad knees and not much else.
Addition by subtraction! So make it official and set the tone.
Maybe Reggie and DA come out united at the presser make a very short very direct statement and leave it there to sink in.
(Just be sure McLain ain’t there to pop caps by their ears)
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We should draft DE B Jenkins and RB M Dyer if they declare.
-Jenkins: injured his foot and he is out for the season.
-Dyer: off the field issues that will cost him a lot of money. 1st round talent.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Terrelle Pryor’s development: “We’ve dedicated a lot of time to him. John DeFilippo, our quarterbacks coach, will get bonus workout time with him on the mechanics of quarterback play almost five days a week. We’re trying to find a way to help improve his game in the pocket and build a foundation of technique and fundamentals. He is really gravitated to that belief. It’s a great role model to have in Carson Palmer, one of the most textbook-sound mechanic quarterbacks that’s played the game. He sees the benefit of building those same fundamentals on a daily basis in practice. His attention to the game plan, even though he hasn’t got a lot of plays in practice, has been very good. I’ve seen progress from the mental standpoint of him improving his game. There’s nothing like improving in a game, like there is anything else. In practice we’re seeing improvement with the mechanics. Even in the scout team we’re seeing the mechanics being developed there.”
On whether they have missed out on utilizing Pryor’s abilities: “It’s a hard question to handle for the team because if you put him up on a 46-man roster you’re taking something else away, usually from special teams or a backup role somewhere else for how many plays? That’s what you have to always argue. That’s the hardest part is what’s best for the team? Well we’ve had a few injuries this year and there’s a need to have some other positions available, backups available, for special teams as well as the position plays. It’s made it a harder situation to bring up a third quarterback to play.”
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At one time I didn’t think Greg Knapp would be true to his word but it certainly seems based on this he has been. I said in preseason that it would take him this seaosn and a offseason to get to where he needs to be. He agreed and I really like what they’re doing with him. DeFillipo is a great QB coach this bodes very well for the Raiders future.
It’s great to see these guys heads aren’t totally buried in their own picks and players.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Come on mc20 even with losing to gb and ne we were still in playoff position, yes we came close to losing to kc but we also came close to beating Buffalo and Detroit, win those 2 games and we could have easily been 10-6… none of that matters though because we were 8-8. These game aren’t even close, i know we weren’t world beaters last year but if you feel they were bad enough for us to get creamed every sunday and it still be acceptable then hey…(shrugs). Its not so much about losing its the way their losing, if the raiders were losing close games and competing then I’d agree with you and consider riding this DA thing out but he’s getting lambasted every sunday. He’s a lousy 3-8 not a competitive 3-8 so I dont see any reason to keep him.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
William Moore: 9 tackles, 2 Assists, 2 tackles for a loss, 2 ints.
…drafted 8 spots after Mike Mitchell…
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Unlike RG3 Pryor was never coached to play from the pocket. This is his first real exposure to it from a concentrated standpoint. This makes the Raiders future very bright because everything else Pryor posesses in spades. Tremedous talent well worth the investment.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
1- CB Xavier Rhodes
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- RB Michael Dyer
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I think Mistic’s definition of “legacy” is different from most.
Legacy is usually a gift of money or property bequeathed by someone for anothers benefit.
But most often it is referred to as the lasting accomplishment, or list of accomplishments of someone which others will come to remember him/her most by.
IF this is to be DA’a last game as a HC for the Raiders it could very well be his “legacy” game…the one we most remember him by, or better said the one that “defined” him as HC.
It won’t be.
He’ll still be here to further shape his “legacy”…whatever that may be.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I wanted us to draft William Moore. The falcons did a great job developing him. He had issues with coverage.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
We can only judge DA on what he has done thus far.
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And what about the players? We have a lot more game tape to be evaluating them with… so why do they get a pass?
Our players sucked before DA, that is why Hue wanted to gut this squad. Why is that so hard for you to see?
Johnny, I know youre just a angry Raider fan looking to blame something. Youre smarter than this. Dont blame what you dont understand. Lets face it, you dont know the x’s and o’s of football so stop judging the coaches like you do.
It’s really easy to judge the players. The next time DHB drops a 1st down catch, that is where you need to place the blame. The guys that suck now and sucked before the current reggime. Case in point, Rolando.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
I have been extremely hard on this staff for good reason, but if they can develope some of the very talented young players that are already on this team. I see some light at the end of the tunnel. because unlike most in here I don’t buy this notion that we have zero talent on this team it takes coaches to develope it not juust dismiss it like a fan thinking we need to get our own players. That outlook is about as amateurish as it gets.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Unlike RG3 Pryor was never coached to play from the pocket. This is his first real exposure to it from a concentrated standpoint. This makes the Raiders future very bright because everything else Pryor posesses in spades. Tremedous talent well worth the investment.
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But what about his arm…and accuracy?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
DJ keep doing what you’re doing there is enough talent to win games in this league. it needs to be coached and if they don’t do it. Get their asses out and get someone who can……………period
November 29th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
And to raider riff you’re right im only speculating… We’re 3-8, get blown out every week, players are brushing up on DA but he has control of the team… Yea. Smh
November 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
players are playing out a weak scheme…
November 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
DJ, I can’t make you understand what I see in this kid. All I cna do is tell wait and see. His arm is as good as there is in this league. No QB ca match what RG3 and the top notch QB’s can do but Pryor’s armis every bit as good as Palmers I said that before we drafted him. His accuracy is a mechanics issue nothing more than that. Just wait you’ll see what I mean.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
DA is a lame duck coach…no offense quack…
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knapp is a cooked goose and Tarver is a side of slaw.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
“Johnny, I know youre just a angry Raider fan looking to blame something. Youre smarter than this. Dont blame what you dont understand. Lets face it, you dont know the x’s and o’s of football so stop judging the coaches like you do.”
Wow…. Amazing ego!!!
Cant let others have their own opinion can we ?
Dude you must be a blast at parties.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Players are brushing up on DA???? based on 1 argument DA had with the underachieving guy on this time? LMAO
November 29th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
437,
Allright Priest…i’m trusting you….
But seriously, i will be ecstatic if Pryor turns out to be a stud.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Juar ignorant people on this blog left , Good night, Dr_Robert and Raider Riff, remember Priest was saying he want to go root for Whiners, Mack is saying the same thing, let’s leave these guys alone to bash the Raiders they will really prove who they really are
November 29th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Pryor did what he did in college on pure athletic ability his mechanics made it difficult to be consistently accurate but that is all he needed. A trained eye can see but it’s very difficult to explain on a kepboard I hve to show you what I saw.
The average scout would not draft Pryor because he’s seeing what he is NOW not what he can become with development. What he lacked can be taught what he has tons of cannot……….period
November 29th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Evaluating DA…
Hiring Greg Knapp failure
Hiring Hoffman Failure
HE controls the D which has been a failure
Decision to switch toz zbs failure
3-8 record failure
165 points in 4 games failure
November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
DA nutt huggers need to prepare for the moment of truth. The day of reckoning is approaching. Reggies’ presser tomorrow will either endorse this farce or he will fire some coaches. Hammer time. If he keeps the coaches around, then he’ll have a real boner to contend with on Sunday.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Johnny, I know youre just a angry Raider fan looking to blame something. Youre smarter than this. Dont blame what you dont understand. Lets face it, you dont know the x’s and o’s of football so stop judging the coaches like you do.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Too bad he did’t play college football like you. That will give him the fight to form opinions about his favorite teams.
LOL
GTFO Mr. I played college football so I know what I’m talking about and Knapp is not the problem it’s the talent level.
Only a guy who has no clue will blame the talent on 4 different teams and not the OC.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
And mc20 yep im talking about that 1 under acheieving player because itd of never happened to hue or cabes because those guys had players respect, Rolo wouldn’t dare try that ish with them. DA is a dyke.lol
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
You People are not qualified to form opinions about your team. Did you play college football?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Think this Raider Fan was talking about Slowlando In this video. No Passion No sense of Urgency… Nice Video
http://youtu.be/WBQ0VJvoJ1k <~~~~ Watch
November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
TP6 will play in garbage time this week. DA will try to win with Palmer to not save his job since his job is guaranteed for year 2 but he wants to please RM to get Mark Davis off his back. But if he can’t win he’d put in tp6 to please the fans who’ve been asking for him.
I love it that stadium didn’t sell to send the team a MSG.
As for Slo may he go to hell in a hand basket POS”
November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Terrelle Pryor’s development: “We’ve dedicated a lot of time to him. John DeFilippo, our quarterbacks coach, will get bonus workout time with him on the mechanics of quarterback play almost five days a week. We’re trying to find a way to help improve his game in the pocket and build a foundation of technique and fundamentals. He is really gravitated to that belief. It’s a great role model to have in Carson Palmer, one of the most textbook-sound mechanic quarterbacks that’s played the game. He sees the benefit of building those same fundamentals on a daily basis in practice. His attention to the game plan, even though he hasn’t got a lot of plays in practice, has been very good. I’ve seen progress from the mental standpoint of him improving his game. There’s nothing like improving in a game, like there is anything else. In practice we’re seeing improvement with the mechanics. Even in the scout team we’re seeing the mechanics being developed there.”
On whether they have missed out on utilizing Pryor’s abilities: “It’s a hard question to handle for the team because if you put him up on a 46-man roster you’re taking something else away, usually from special teams or a backup role somewhere else for how many plays? That’s what you have to always argue. That’s the hardest part is what’s best for the team? Well we’ve had a few injuries this year and there’s a need to have some other positions available, backups available, for special teams as well as the position plays. It’s made it a harder situation to bring up a third quarterback to play.”
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At one time I didn’t think Greg Knapp would be true to his word but it certainly seems based on this he has been. I said in preseason that it would take him this seaosn and a offseason to get to where he needs to be. He agreed and I really like what they’re doing with him. DeFillipo is a great QB coach this bodes very well for the Raiders future.
It’s great to see these guys heads aren’t totally buried in their own picks and players.
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i’m amazed at how a person can get what they want out of anything.
“We’re trying to find a way to help improve his game in the pocket”
“It’s a great role model to have in Carson Palmer, one of the most textbook-sound mechanic quarterbacks that’s played the game”
“even though he hasn’t got a lot of plays in practice”
“if you put him up on a 46-man roster you’re taking something else away”
“It’s made it a harder situation to bring up a third quarterback to play.”
do u still think he’s gonna take over anytime soon?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I will fully and readily admit I am an angry Raider fan right now and we’re all looking for someone to blame in this mess we see. I think the blame can be spread out equally to coaches AND players.
One of the things I blame DA for is the hiring of Gregg Knapp and instituting a system that does not appear to even do what DA claims he wants to do; which is put players in the best position where they can be successful.
I think DMAC’s regression is evidence of that, and imo this ZBS put pressure on the players to think too much about what they are doing and not focused enough on just playing.
I blame DA for trotting a team that seems lackluster and uninspired at the start of every game.
Are they uninspired and lackluster in reality? That’s what they appear to be.
I don’t discount that this team is devoid of top talent, but when guys that DO have talent (DMAC) are rendered ineffective?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Anybody hear what time Reggie’s on tomorrow ?
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
People who come here and claim they know more than others were here at the beginning of the season arguing how great knapp will be, we should Blame the talent he had on 4 different teams, and now they complain about knapp?!
Monkeys!
November 29th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Unlike RG3 Pryor was never coached to play from the pocket. This is his first real exposure to it from a concentrated standpoint. This makes the Raiders future very bright because everything else Pryor posesses in spades. Tremedous talent well worth the investment.
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It would be great if Houdini turned out to be a franchise type QB this team can build around. One last hurrah by Mr. Davis.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Raider O Says:
Only a guy who has no clue will blame the talent on 4 different teams and not the OC.
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How many coaches has Rolando played for since he got here?
How many coaches has Branch sucked for since he got here?
How many coaches has DHB dropped passes for since he got here?
I can go on and on.
Its 90% execution, 10% coaching. Ask anyone that has played, they will tell you the same thing.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
It’s juts my opinion but I think those fans in the stadium will get hyped over TP6
That is probably the only thing that could get me to buy a ticket the rest of this year. I’ve had season tickets since they have been back. This is the 1st year I just couldn’t pony up the money I just wasn’t excited. Last year I didn’t buy them in advance but I bought them this year No way. TP6 could change that….it would tell me they are serious about winning instead of making their own point at the org’s expense.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
I don’t discount that this team is devoid of top talent, but when guys that DO have talent (DMAC) are rendered ineffective?
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Our O-Line sucks. That is your answer. And its not the scheme, they are getting beat physically, not schematically. They cannot win at the point of attack and the line of scrimmage routinely is pushed back.
That is not the fault of the coaches.
And as for your distaste for the ZBS… why? It is a better system. Why not evolve? If Briesel wasnt a bust it wouldnt look so ugly. We whiffed on that FA signing. That doesnt mean the system doesnt work, it means we dont have the players to work it.
Not to mention, the moment DMC went down, the running game got bette. Reece averages over a yard and a half more than DMC. Different player, new results…. See how that works?
DMC is partly to blame here. Reece proved that.
I cant explain anything you want to know. You might not like the answers, it may not fit some peoples agendas, but that doesnt discount its validity.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
90% execution and 10% coaching?!
Amazing!! And this guy claims he played the spor?
I guess AL was right. Coaches are overrated.
LOL
I wonder why the Lakers fired Brown? They have an all-star roster.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I think Mistic’s definition of “legacy” is different from most.
Legacy is usually a gift of money or property bequeathed by someone for anothers benefit.
But most often it is referred to as the lasting accomplishment, or list of accomplishments of someone which others will come to remember him/her most by.
IF this is to be DA’a last game as a HC for the Raiders it could very well be his “legacy” game…the one we most remember him by, or better said the one that “defined” him as HC.
It won’t be.
He’ll still be here to further shape his “legacy”…whatever that may be.
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in the words of indigo montoya from “the princess bride”:
why do u keep saying that word? i do not think it means what u think it means.”
November 29th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I will fully and readily admit I am an angry Raider fan right now and we’re all looking for someone to blame in this mess we see. I think the blame can be spread out equally to coaches AND players.
One of the things I blame DA for is the hiring of Gregg Knapp and instituting a system that does not appear to even do what DA claims he wants to do; which is put players in the best position where they can be successful.
I think DMAC’s regression is evidence of that, and imo this ZBS put pressure on the players to think too much about what they are doing and not focused enough on just playing.
I blame DA for trotting a team that seems lackluster and uninspired at the start of every game.
Are they uninspired and lackluster in reality? That’s what they appear to be.
I don’t discount that this team is devoid of top talent, but when guys that DO have talent (DMAC) are rendered ineffective?
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Can’t argue with a single point made…..very astute observation.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
I think we WILL see Pryor at some point. DA suggested as much.
The situation has changed. We are no longer in a playoff race.
It makes sense to see what he can do in a real game.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
DHB had 60+ catches for around 1000 yards last season, so I guess he lost some talent this season.
DMC lost some talent too after performing the last 2 seasons.
LOL
You People are funny.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
I have been extremely hard on this staff for good reason, but if they can develope some of the very talented young players that are already on this team. I see some light at the end of the tunnel. because unlike most in here I don’t buy this notion that we have zero talent on this team it takes coaches to develope it not juust dismiss it like a fan thinking we need to get our own players. That outlook is about as amateurish as it gets.
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for crying out loud priest. what is this fascination with “developing” players? what do the coaches do? play mozart to them, sprinkle them with water, and give them lots of sunlight? these are nfl players. they have played a lot of football at big time colleges and for years in the nfl. they know how to play the game. we just have a lot of them aren’t as good as the other players in the game. that’s why we suck.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Our O-Line sucks. That is your answer. And its not the scheme, they are getting beat physically, not schematically. They cannot win at the point of attack and the line of scrimmage routinely is pushed back.
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Lorenzo Neal said just the opposite during the Monday presser all you have to is watch it. He said it’s not the talent it’s focus.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
DJ, I can’t make you understand what I see in this kid.
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u have seen no more or less of this kid than any of us.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Just goes to show you have no freaking clue what a position coach’s job description is.That is exactly what they do deveope talent……….period
November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Im telling you they put pryor he is gonna make some plays on SUNDAY.. Put him in the RZ and watch.. one broken tackle and he will scramble for a TD.
Do that READ OPTION. Im telling you I still see DEFENSES cant handle that chit. I have see KAP do it, Seen RG3 do it. They know who will keep it. PRYOR will fire this crowd up and not go through the motions like LEINART. or Palmer.
Forget Leinart.. he has already had his time and shot. Palmer too. Its a young mans game with the season over.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
90% execution? i guess that means all hard working smart college players should be all pros in the nfl?…lol try covering calvin johnson with 90% execuation and a thirty yard cushion…
November 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Defense dont know who will take the ball on the Read option. Pryor actually can do the rollouts and boots
November 29th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Our O-Line sucks. That is your answer. And its not the scheme, they are getting beat physically, not schematically. They cannot win at the point of attack and the line of scrimmage routinely is pushed back.
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Lorenzo Neal said just the opposite during the Monday presser all you have to is watch it. He said it’s not the talent it’s focus.
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ok, so our guys are some of the worst focusers in the game. LOL.
how exactly can lorenzo neal tell if our guys are “focused”? are they texting or something?
i can tell u one guy who hasn’t been focused. mcclain.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
The fans that think Pryor will stink it up should want him to get out there and play in a real game so it can prove your points about him.
Be fair and understanding in your analysis as some of you are in regard to DA and what HE is working with.
It’s a win win.
I think what we’d be looking for is some kind of sign that he can do some things, and make some solid, accurate passes, go through progressions etc.
I’m pretty sure the guy can run and get yards with his legs.
We’ll see if DA makes the move at some point.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
DA isnt focused…oh wait he is…on a sharpie.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Just goes to show you have no freaking clue what a position coach’s job description is.That is exactly what they do deveope talent……….period
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hahahaha! i’m a football coach dummy. coaches don’t develop talent. they coach it. the word development is used to talk about a maturation process and experience. it happens over time with players who have talent and grow. but some guys max out at a level that isn’t good enough. it is u sir, who don’t know what ur talking about.
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
DHB had 60+ catches for around 1000 yards last season, so I guess he lost some talent this season.
DMC lost some talent too after performing the last 2 seasons.
LOL
You People are funny.
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DHB dropped balls last year, he still does it this year. He’s done it with every coach he’s played for. But its the coaches fault right?
Wow, 60+ catches for our vet WR. What an accomplshment. Im glad you have the bar set so high.
DHB is a joke.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Then you are one of the dumbest coaches I’ve ever heard of because every coach I”ve ever talked to taught fundamentals and helped players get better. The teerm they used is developing players I’ve been around pro coaches for 30 years great teams are great at developing talent………..period
November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Just goes to show you have no freaking clue what a position coach’s job description is.That is exactly what they do deveope talent……….period
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ever heard the phrase “u can lead a horse to water but u can’t make him drink”?
do u understand that coaches can’t make mcclain faster, or more driven, or have better instincts? they can teach him a scheme and reads and responsibilities. but if he simply watches too long to react and then runs into the wrong gap and slams into a lineman and wrestles with that lineman while not even attempting to break free or know where the ball is going, then what the fck is a coach supposed to do? he’s a grown azz man. take care of ur bizness or get the f@ck out.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Ask any player or coach out there…
It’s 90% execution and 10% coaching.
Football coaches are religiously conservative. They dont take risks. None of them do. They design a game plan to attack the weaknesses of the opponent, none of which is that hard to figure out for any coach, and then they go out on Sunday and pray their players can execute the gameplan.
If the players execute and make a couple game changing plays during the game, that is how coaches expect to win.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
458,
Riff, I don’t blame Reggie or DA for not seeing this might go down, but i think we’re going back to power scheme next yr.
I should say, it’s a good chance of that seeing as they are looking at changing the rules of blocking below the waist.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
priest–it’s impossible to “develop” talent that is incapable and/or unwilling to do it. u can teach them. u can’t make them retain it or care. there are not strings attached to the players. a coach can not “make” them do things. according to u, any player who has not made it in the nfl must not have been developed. so every player should excel if “developed”? how about sometimes they just don’t have the ability or desire?
get it?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Then you are one of the dumbest coaches I’ve ever heard of because every coach I”ve ever talked to taught fundamentals and helped players get better. The teerm they used is developing players I’ve been around pro coaches for 30 years great teams are great at developing talent………..period
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Yeah because Tim Brown was garbage when he got here and we “developed” him in to a HOFer.
And the reason DHB still sucks is that we havent had very good WR coaches right?
Funny how Tim Brown and James Jett had the same coaches. One could play and the other couldnt. But blame the coaches right?
You guys are idiots.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
DHB had 60+ catches for around 1000 yards last season, so I guess he lost some talent this season.
DMC lost some talent too after performing the last 2 seasons.
LOL
You People are funny.
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DHB dropped balls last year, he still does it this year. He’s done it with every coach he’s played for. But its the coaches fault right?
Wow, 60+ catches for our vet WR. What an accomplshment. Im glad you have the bar set so high.
DHB is a joke.
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Your argument is s joke.
We had players that prooduced the last few years especially last year but not producing this year. You think they have a disease that hurts their talent level, and I believe in Occam’s razor (other things being equal, simplest solution/ explanation is best).
Good luck with your theories and logic. You willneed it Mr. I played college football so I know more than the avg fan.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Now that the game is blacked out, what’s the best website to watch the game on? All the one from two years ago that I used to use (when the games were consistently blacked out) are down.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
458,
Riff, I don’t blame Reggie or DA for not seeing this might go down, but i think we’re going back to power scheme next yr.
I should say, it’s a good chance of that seeing as they are looking at changing the rules of blocking below the waist.
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If they really change the rules, which they should, then we have no choice, we go back to the PBS or MBS.
But that puts us in a very bad situation. We will then need to spend big money to rebuild our right side of our line, and we will probably also want to keep DMC.
That doesnt leave us a whole lot of cap space to fix the other major issues on this team.
Say we spend all our cap room on the O-Line rebuild…. Where do you see us getting a competent WR, a impact DE, a #1 CB (Nnamdi hopefully), and a decent MLB? We cant get all of that in one draft class.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Tim Brown couldn’t run the route tree had a ton of talent but they made him a true WR I’ve known him since he was a rookie. I also met Jerry Rice as a rookie been to several practices with the Niners and Raiders watched Jerry become great.
I know of which I speak I was there…….period
November 29th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
mcclain was overrated. he is big and slow and reacts poorly. he takes horrible angles and doesn’t get thru traffic well. the college game, even at alabama, is filled with 90% guys who don’t have the talent to get to the next level. so it can be easy to get by on strength or size or whatever. when they get to the nfl, their weaknesses become glaring. mcclain struggled because he lacks in certain areas. the coaches tried. he failed. it’s just like a student who lacks ability plus he doesn’t try very hard. it ain’t happening.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
DHB had 60+ catches for around 1000 yards last season, so I guess he lost some talent this season.
DMC lost some talent too after performing the last 2 seasons.
LOL
You People are funny.
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DHB dropped balls last year, he still does it this year. He’s done it with every coach he’s played for. But its the coaches fault right?
Wow, 60+ catches for our vet WR. What an accomplshment. Im glad you have the bar set so high.
DHB is a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Your argument is s joke.
We had players that prooduced the last few years especially last year but not producing this year. You think they have a disease that hurts their talent level, and I believe in Occam’s razor (other things being equal, simplest solution/ explanation is best).
Good luck with your theories and logic. You willneed it Mr. I played college football so I know more than the avg fan.
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“My theories”?
No, these are the theories of football. Taught by every coach in the game.
Your theories are just the angry rants of a fan who doesnt know the game.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Another legacy game? First one for a 3-7 team. Now one for a 3-8 team? We got any more legacy games coming up? In the words of Inigo Montoya “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
November 29th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
I wonder why the Pats continue to pat Billisacheat all that money. Aren’t they familiar with Riff’s theory?
90% execution and 10% coaching.
Another classic from Riff.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Riff is just a loud mouth know nothing……..most people in here know something about the game. they may not understand the entire process but they’re not stupid.
You know a little more maybe, but you way over sell yourself.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Riff is a blowhard narcissist.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Raider O Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
DHB had 60+ catches for around 1000 yards last season, so I guess he lost some talent this season.
DMC lost some talent too after performing the last 2 seasons.
LOL
You People are funny.
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DHB dropped balls last year, he still does it this year. He’s done it with every coach he’s played for. But its the coaches fault right?
Wow, 60+ catches for our vet WR. What an accomplshment. Im glad you have the bar set so high.
DHB is a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Your argument is s joke.
We had players that prooduced the last few years especially last year but not producing this year. You think they have a disease that hurts their talent level, and I believe in Occam’s razor (other things being equal, simplest solution/ explanation is best).
Good luck with your theories and logic. You willneed it Mr. I played college football so I know more than the avg fan.
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“My theories”?
No, these are the theories of football. Taught by every coach in the game.
Your theories are just the angry rants of a fan who doesnt know the game.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You know more than us.
“90% execution and 10% coaching”
“Knapp is not the problem, it’s the talent”
“You people are not qualified to form opinions since football is not your profession”
Classics!
LOL
November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
That was one helluva game the W’s just won.
They are one very entertaining game.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
entertaining TEAM sorry!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Its 90% execution, 10% coaching. Ask anyone that has played, they will tell you the same thing.
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Smh. Coaching has nothing to do with execution? What is Coaching in your opinion?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Post 491 you are truly a wise man priest, you have a lot of respect from my end.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
KK great ? I’d love to hear this…..
November 29th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
I wonder why SF decided to hire Harbaugh and pay him all that money? Aren’t they familiar with Riff’s theory?
I wonder why A Smith is playing better? He must have increased his talents, and Coaching had nothing to do with it. Magic pill?
Great Logic from Mr. I played college football so I know more than the avg fan.
You Peoole are funny. I love this place.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Riff is just a loud mouth know nothing……..most people in here know something about the game. they may not understand the entire process but they’re not stupid.
You know a little more maybe, but you way over sell yourself.
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You got me wrong. Im not high on myself at all. Im just really really low on the overall semi’s here.
I cant have any other opinion about you guys when you say all the stupid schit you do.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Its 90% execution, 10% coaching. Ask anyone that has played, they will tell you the same thing.
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Smh. Coaching has nothing to do with execution? What is Coaching in your opinion?
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Coaching at the NFL level is about scheming and gameplanning.
It takes a ton of hours but it isnt rocket science. Both teams know what the others are going to do to each other most games. It’s up the the execution that decides the outcome.
If execution didnt matter and it was all coaches, you could just simulate games on XBox and know the winners of every game.
Players arent robots, they make mistakes. Ours just make more than most.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Riff got a point, if players want to evoke great they can become great in any freakin environment, if they are just looking for money or give up on their respective teams when thing aren’t going their way, then they should be suspended , waived
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Tim Brown couldn’t run the route tree had a ton of talent but they made him a true WR I’ve known him since he was a rookie. I also met Jerry Rice as a rookie been to several practices with the Niners and Raiders watched Jerry become great.
I know of which I speak I was there…….period
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oh, dude, ur killing it now. tim brown won the f@king heisman for a reason! i watched him play every game of his college and pro career. he had great physical ability and great work ethic, combined with great intelligence. it took a couple years for him to emerge, like it does for most receivers, but he applied himself to what was being taught and his tremendous ability blossomed. that’s what they refer to as development. coaches don’t “develop” players like it’s something u just do. the player has to have ability and willingness to apply themselves. and sometimes they lack in both, which is mccalin’s situation.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Be***^^= evoke
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Another legacy game? First one for a 3-7 team. Now one for a 3-8 team? We got any more legacy games coming up? In the words of Inigo Montoya “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
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LOL! i didn’t see ur post. that’s funny. i did use that quote a week or so ago, but it really seems to apply to mistic. he does remind me of the black version of that dude. thinks he’s really smart but just mangles it.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I agree players aren’t robots, they make mistakes. That’s what Coaches are for. Plus game planning, and this staff hasn’t done either.
Ok, we disagree.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Its 90% execution, 10% coaching. Ask anyone that has played, they will tell you the same thing.
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Smh. Coaching has nothing to do with execution? What is Coaching in your opinion?
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for crying out loud. do u guys have a f@cking dictionary?
coaches teach u schemes and whatnot. then it’s up to the PLAYER to go do it. that’s called execution. as in, executing a plan. my gosh.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
True , all you can do is surround your self with players who want to be the best and would take nothing less, you guys.. It matters what kinda players you surround yourself with
November 29th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
498 get em raider O, let em know, any jack @$$ can draw up plays but it takes a Real coach to teach those plays , coach players up, be able to detect what players strengths are and build on that, and motivate players being a leader of men. Any body can win with a group of allstars…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
You know sometimes the talent is not there , our D is the worst in the league , and you guys want to stop top 10 passing Os? Lol
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
oh, dude, ur killing it now. tim brown won the f@king heisman for a reason! i watched him play every game of his college and pro career. he had great physical ability and great work ethic, combined with great intelligence. it took a couple years for him to emerge, like it does for most receivers, but he applied himself to what was being taught and his tremendous ability blossomed. that’s what they refer to as development. coaches don’t “develop” players like it’s something u just do. the player has to have ability and willingness to apply themselves. and sometimes they lack in both, which is mccalin’s situation.
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Son you state the obvious very well…Tim Brown didn’t get drafted #6 overall because he didn’t have talent. We drafted him because of it. Player development helps players get better at what they do and become great if possible. They have to be taught the fundamentals at this level to compete at this level it’s as much mental as it is phsycial. At the collegiate level you can get away with physical prowess but if you want to be great at the NFL level it takes a helluva lot more because everyone is physically gifted. Coaches assist players where that is concerned they rarely come with it it has to be taught.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
And put up 30+ points to overcome our deficiencies on the D side with these wide receivers? Lol
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Good coaches make players better, Awful coaches make excuses …
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Mc20 we can win with these recievers… Wr is the least of this teams troubles. Look at the coach.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
coaches teach u schemes and whatnot. then it’s up to the PLAYER to go do it. that’s called execution. as in, executing a plan. my gosh.
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You ever been to a NFL practice? I have. Calm down.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
don’t u hear the coaches? they keep telling u. coaches teach the scheme. players take that information and go EXECUTE the scheme. these players are having difficulties EXECUTING the scheme. they have a hard time doing what they’re supposed to do. a bad combination of poor skills (as compared to other players) and some bad attitudes will do that.
now, knapp’s playcalling and tarver’s lack of creativity may have something to do with it.
but mcclain’s play has always been subpar. it’s on him.
and remember. EVERY player in the nfl has skills. it’s a fine line between good and mediocre, or being mediocre and bad. our guys just, on the whole, suck.
the proof is in the pudding. don’t give me bullsh!t about “the raiders don’t develop players”. that’s just an excuse that conveniently requires no evidence, other than saying “it’s not the players’ fault they suck, it’s the coaches”.
just like every punk kid who blames everyone else.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
oh, dude, ur killing it now. tim brown won the f@king heisman for a reason! i watched him play every game of his college and pro career. he had great physical ability and great work ethic, combined with great intelligence. it took a couple years for him to emerge, like it does for most receivers, but he applied himself to what was being taught and his tremendous ability blossomed. that’s what they refer to as development. coaches don’t “develop” players like it’s something u just do. the player has to have ability and willingness to apply themselves. and sometimes they lack in both, which is mccalin’s situation.
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Son you state the obvious very well…Tim Brown didn’t get drafted #6 overall because he didn’t have talent. We drafted him because of it. Player development helps players get better at what they do and become great if possible. They have to be taught the fundamentals at this level to compete at this level it’s as much mental as it is phsycial. At the collegiate level you can get away with physical prowess but if you want to be great at the NFL level it takes a helluva lot more because everyone is physically gifted. Coaches assist players where that is concerned they rarely come with it it has to be taught.
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I think your confused, what he meant to say was T Brown was selected high and played like a player who was drafted in top 10 with constant coaching changes, I mean coaching didn’t hinder his progress, what does coaching have to do with J Russell, McClain and DHb ? If other guys do it with 10 different coaches , why can’t these guys do it? It’s simple , they just don’t belong in the league
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Coaching at the NFL level is about scheming and gameplanning.
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And our coaches are good at that?
Coaching is also about utilizing talent, not force feeding them a pipe dream that sets them up to fail.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I used to watch David Shaw’s father Willie Shaw after games explaining to the media about young players catching up to the pro game he was soo articulate with his explanations it made so much sense it helped me understand what to look for in players.
That’s why it takes most players 2-4 years before they really arrive. because they ahven’t really developed or learned what it takes to succeed at this level. It’s called player development it’s known throughout the NFL the best org’s are the best because they are greta at player development.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Mc20 we can win with these recievers… Wr is the least of this teams troubles. Look at the coach.
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Sure man , remind me again when did we win in a shoot out with these receivers last time?! Please don’t give me those stupid examples where we beat Beat those sucky teams
November 29th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Good coaches make players better, Awful coaches make excuses
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Thats right. And awful coaches lose the locker room and players start to go mutinous.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
oh, dude, ur killing it now. tim brown won the f@king heisman for a reason! i watched him play every game of his college and pro career. he had great physical ability and great work ethic, combined with great intelligence. it took a couple years for him to emerge, like it does for most receivers, but he applied himself to what was being taught and his tremendous ability blossomed. that’s what they refer to as development. coaches don’t “develop” players like it’s something u just do. the player has to have ability and willingness to apply themselves. and sometimes they lack in both, which is mccalin’s situation.
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Son you state the obvious very well…Tim Brown didn’t get drafted #6 overall because he didn’t have talent. We drafted him because of it. Player development helps players get better at what they do and become great if possible. They have to be taught the fundamentals at this level to compete at this level it’s as much mental as it is phsycial. At the collegiate level you can get away with physical prowess but if you want to be great at the NFL level it takes a helluva lot more because everyone is physically gifted. Coaches assist players where that is concerned they rarely come with it it has to be taught.
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ok, so we agree. some players have more talent than others. u blame the coaches when a player doesn’t “develop”. that can be true to an extent. but how about when a player was supposed to have talent but maybe he didn’t have what they thought, now that he’s playing with other talented guys? how about when the player just can’t get what’s being taught or doesn’t really care to? still the coaches’ fault? or is the player responsible for his end of things? doesn’t he have to try? what if he tries and just doesn’t have it?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
This is a passing league and our D is not good enough to stop the top passing Os , once they go up on us, we have to abandon running games and dial up passing plays, even with a good QB , we lack talent at wide receiver position to go head to head with most of these teams
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
coaches teach u schemes and whatnot. then it’s up to the PLAYER to go do it. that’s called execution. as in, executing a plan. my gosh.
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You ever been to a NFL practice? I have. Calm down.
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LOL! so going to a practice means u know something? it requires a pass. that’s it. very dumb comment kell.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
You’ll see players go from one org. to another that has great position coaches and they get much better very quickly under that tutelage. Their position coaches are just better and can teach their scheme better and what it atkes to play in it.
The Steelers are one of the best in the NFL at player development. They take average talent and succeed with it because they’re great at player development.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Greenbay developed Aaron Rodgers, he goes somewhere else there’s no guarantee he becomes the star he is.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Quit giving this bs were got good enough receivers to win with, that only happens if you got good to great team to keep other teams to low scores
November 29th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
When your inept at every facet of the game, that’s Coaching.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Coaching at the NFL level is about scheming and gameplanning.
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And our coaches are good at that?
Coaching is also about utilizing talent, not force feeding them a pipe dream that sets them up to fail.
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i never said i’ve been impressed with this staff. but the ZBS is no pipe dream. it is to the running game wht the west coast offense was to the passing game. it has flourished and our guys have had trouble with it.
and mcclain’s problems have nothing to do with coaching. he sucks.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Great D *^^^
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Greenbay developed Aaron Rodgers, he goes somewhere else there’s no guarantee he becomes the star he is.
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This is very true…..he was far from the finsihed product his mechanics were way off. The same is true with Brett Farve under Mooch and those coaches. They know whow to develope QB’s.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I used to watch David Shaw’s father Willie Shaw after games explaining to the media about young players catching up to the pro game he was soo articulate with his explanations it made so much sense it helped me understand what to look for in players.
That’s why it takes most players 2-4 years before they really arrive. because they ahven’t really developed or learned what it takes to succeed at this level. It’s called player development it’s known throughout the NFL the best org’s are the best because they are greta at player development.
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being around great minds does not mean u have a great mind.
what ur saying is that no player should ever be cut before his 4th year is done. sorry but ridiculous. the evidence is glaring. mcclain does not have it. plus, he has refused to apply what talent he does have. if burris can grasp it in his rookie year, mcclain could have by now. he was the worst player on the team.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
When your inept at every facet of the game, that’s Coaching.
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plain and simple truth..
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
You’ll see players go from one org. to another that has great position coaches and they get much better very quickly under that tutelage. Their position coaches are just better and can teach their scheme better and what it atkes to play in it.
The Steelers are one of the best in the NFL at player development. They take average talent and succeed with it because they’re great at player development.
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They draft guys well and have drafted well ,this is where you get exposed ,while Al D drafted guys from 3-4s to play in 4-3
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
When your inept at every facet of the game, that’s Coaching.
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Be interesting to see if Reggie endorses this staff tomorrow.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Steelers draft guys based on they’d schemes they run, while al D thought this was play ground football just pick the fastest stronger and the tallest guy lol
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
I hope Reggie throws them under the bus.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
The Oline was a helluva lot better last yr. its a mess this year.
Thanks, Bob Wylie & Steve Wiznewski
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Stfu kell this staff isn’t going Nywher might as well jump on the whiners bandwagon like your buddy priest and the Mack
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
You’ll see players go from one org. to another that has great position coaches and they get much better very quickly under that tutelage. Their position coaches are just better and can teach their scheme better and what it atkes to play in it.
The Steelers are one of the best in the NFL at player development. They take average talent and succeed with it because they’re great at player development.
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i agree. the steelers are good at getting the most out of their guys. but they’re also good at evaluating talent in the first place. and oh yeah, they seem to cut a lot of guys every year too.
they bring in actually talented guys, that apply themselves to the quality coaching.
mcclain has sucked no matter who has coached him. and the steelers couldn’t make him faster, more instinctive, or more driven. u can’t make silk out of a sow’s ear.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Is this Reggie presser really happening?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
The Mack Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Greenbay developed Aaron Rodgers, he goes somewhere else there’s no guarantee he becomes the star he is.
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Exactly. Do you think he would have lasted as long on draft day if he was this special, or did it take a few years of good coaching to develop him.
Tom Brady is so special he was picked innthe 6th round, or did the pats develop him?
Is it luck that teams with good coaches develop young talent, but teams like us can’t or do we have the worst scouting department in the league?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Yeah, can’t wait to hear Reggie’s State of the Raiders Presser.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Night guys
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Is this Reggie presser really happening?
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You better believe it. He has got some serious explaining to do in regards to this staff. I hope he fires them. What the heck, we’re in the off season now anyway.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
i gotta tell u, mistic has proven to be an idiot because of his ridiculous one-sided not-so-subtle racism, but at least he’s behind a talented, hard-working player who so far, while not being great, has demonstrated good things.
but to be on the side of mcclain at this point just speaks of either blindness or outright stupidity.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
i never said development doesn’t take place. but it doesn’t take place with under-talented, un-caring pieces of sh!t like mcclain.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Son drafting well is only half the battle…….this is what you just don’t get. These players aren’t great when they get them they help them reach their potential through coaching them up. Lebeau has been there for years because he is a great teacher. he gets the best out of the talent they draft.
Player development is HUGE or else you’ll see very talented players become BUST and everyone will wonder why. It’s called a lack of player development. They don’t recieve the coaching necessary to succeed in many cases. They go elsewhere and make it. Ask any pro-player if coaching doesn’t matter. They’ll laugh at you because it affects them dramatically.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Stfu kell this staff isn’t going Nywher might as well jump on the whiners bandwagon like your buddy priest and the Mack
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You can’t respect anybody’s opinion sceptic yours? Rude little Btch.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Mc20 you want me to prove we can win with the recievers we have but i cant use the games we won as an example??? Lol wow! i guess D moore has never made finger tip catches, or highlight reel catches in double coverage? DHB has never taken a 5 step slant for a 50 yard td, or made 1 hand catches on a long bomb from carson, or turned a 10 yard catch in to a 60 yarder by breaking tackles? These guys can and have made plays… they’ve made some this year and even more last year. You wont ever agree with me but thats the way I see it.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Like one football coach told me:
“You can’t coach stupid.” — that would be Rolando McClain.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Guys should watch tape of the Martin runs against us as well as Benjarvis Green Ellis’s 48 yd. scamper and draw your own conclusions…and be honest now.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
let’s look at the lions. they picked mike williams, carlos rogers, and calvin johnson. all of them were considered high end picks loaded with talent. one of them panned out. were they poor at “developing” wr’s? mike williams turned out to be so-so and slow. rogers was an idiot. megatron earned it. that’s the nfl. some guys develop, some don’t. some coaches are good at it, some aren’t.
mcclain’s failure was his own. blaming these or any coaches is ridiculous.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Priesttj12
LeBeau is a very well-respected and time-tested coach.
But even his coaching couldn’t help the Steelers stop the Greg-Knapp Raider offense in that loss here in Oakland.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
i never said development doesn’t take place. but it doesn’t take place with under-talented, un-caring pieces of sh!t like mcclain.
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Nick Saban got a lot out this same player. I wonder if he wnet to Dick Labeau what he would be. I bet he would be much better.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Son drafting well is only half the battle…….this is what you just don’t get. These players aren’t great when they get them they help them reach their potential through coaching them up. Lebeau has been there for years because he is a great teacher. he gets the best out of the talent they draft.
Player development is HUGE or else you’ll see very talented players become BUST and everyone will wonder why. It’s called a lack of player development. They don’t recieve the coaching necessary to succeed in many cases. They go elsewhere and make it. Ask any pro-player if coaching doesn’t matter. They’ll laugh at you because it affects them dramatically.
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i don’t get it? i think players come in automatically great, end of story? preposterous. i told u how it works. they come in with supposed talent. first of all, sometimes they were overrated. this applies to mccalin right away. then the coaches coach them. if the player applies himself and can learn it, his natural ability will emerge. and he will thrive. that’s development. in mcclain’s case, he was not as talented as we thought. and he was apparently not very good at understanding what was taught. also, he he clearly lacked desire. his effort was horrendous.
btw, did lebeau ever miss? ever cut a hi rounder? they all miss.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Like one football coach told me:
“You can’t coach stupid.” — that would be Rolando McClain.
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LOL!
“you can’t coach stupid. i’ve tried coaching stupid. he just won’t listen. isn’t that right stupid?”
“i’m outta here. i can’t wait to be on a real ‘team’.
“see ya stupid.”
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
i never said development doesn’t take place. but it doesn’t take place with under-talented, un-caring pieces of sh!t like mcclain.
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Nick Saban got a lot out this same player. I wonder if he wnet to Dick Labeau what he would be. I bet he would be much better.
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that’s college! his size and strength were all he needed. he probably even seemed quick there. the nfl is littered with the carcasses of ‘big-time” college players who couldn’t cut it in the nfl. the dude just plain sucks, priest. the fact u can’t see it speaks volumes about ur credibility.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
brian bosworth > mcclain.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Every player wont take to even great coaching. That is NOT what we are seeing here this team has regreessed in every aspect of the game. That is NOT just players it has a lot to do with the handling of players and getting those players to respond to the coaching. At this level you have to sell these guys on your plan if you don’t they will NOT respond.
If they see inconsistencies in what you preach they will tune you out……..in a hurry.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
McClain isn’t the only player NOT responding to these coaches you keep harping ion him but I see the same thing from half the players on this TEAM.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Every player wont take to even great coaching. That is NOT what we are seeing here this team has regreessed in every aspect of the game. That is NOT just players it has a lot to do with the handling of players and getting those players to respond to the coaching. At this level you have to sell these guys on your plan if you don’t they will NOT respond.
If they see inconsistencies in what you preach they will tune you out……..in a hurry.
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first of all, bullsh!t. u don’t cottle a little diva who wants to be treated a certain way. get the f@ck outta here! this is football. play hard and get after it. period.
i didn’t say the staff was good and i didn’t say the talent was good.
mcclain has demonstrated an obscene lack of instincts. he is slow to react and doesn’t even seem to be trying. in ur view, it was all the coaches fault regarding jamarcus, cuz they didn’t get him to tune in. that idiot sucked. and so does mcclain.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
How many times do we have to say the entire team has regressed that is NOT just the players………it says a lot about the coaches too.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
McClain isn’t the only player NOT responding to these coaches you keep harping ion him but I see the same thing from half the players on this TEAM.
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that’s cuz we have a lot of subpar players. we’re a bad team. there’s a lot wrong. half the team should be cut. and another half of the half we keep should be replaced soon.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
I’m done fellas adios!!
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
the team has regressed. i’m not impressed with the staff at all. but i think this team has had a combination of things go wrong that has caused it. and i think it needs to be gutted. keep the parts that are good, but clean house.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
DA has come in and turned the raiders into the mud dogs without the waterboy. Lmao remember how sorry that team was without the waterboy?(if you’ve seen the movie)
November 29th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
how many good o-linemen do we have?
who is the pass rusher the coaches haven’t “developed”?
who’s responsible for mcclain’s horrendous lack of hustle?
let’s be realistic. the coaches haven’t impressed. but does this team have the parts in place to win?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Dr Robert. They have the parts to win at least 8 games and that was with our starting QB coming off the couch.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
How many times do we have to say the entire team has regressed that is NOT just the players………it says a lot about the coaches too.
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Exactly, when the entire team regresses it is on the coaches. Just like when the team dramatically improves. Look at SFO and the one year change when they hires their HC
November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
i was mainly talking about priest’s ridiculous claim that mcclain’s suckness had to do with the staff.
i have said i’m not impressed with the staff.
but some things have happened since last year.
dmc is not the same. his absence helped lead to a 1-4 finish last year and he looked horrible this year.
wiz moved to center. it was a mistake.
seymour’s gimpiness has deteriorated his play and the whole line has suffered as a result.
i still think the team should be better, but mcclain is horrible.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
i will tell u this: if they end up trying to bring mcclain back, this team is done. no balls.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I said it long ago this is Rolando’s and every player in defenses 3rd scheme in 3 years. And you guys want a well disciplined scheme well keep wishing. It takes years not months half that defenses was turned over. Yet they want Rolando to take all the blame. That kid is 23 y/o and 3 NFL systems since his rookie year. His freaking head is on a swivel. He doesn’t knwo the players around him a trust the system at a high level.
No ONE takes any of this into consideration for him just BLAME him. It aint fair but it is what it is, if i were him I would be begging to get the hell
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“it aint [sic] fair…”
You don’t expect anyone not to the far left the Bell Curve to take you seriously, now do you?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
It’s a ludicrous argument that Rolando McClain’s behavior is somehow indicative of a mutinous attitude on the team.
* Cochran has told us just this last week, when he was directly asked, if he has seen any signs that the coach has lost the team. He responded with, “Trust me when I say I have seen coaches who have lost the locker room. That is not the case here.”
* McClain is a crazy or have you forgotten that he pulled a gun on a man when neither he himself nor anyone else was in danger and for all we know was a split second from placing a bullet in his temporal lobe?
*Do you recall that a former coach, one Hue Jackson, gave permission to McClain to fly home and attend a funeral, and a few hours later Mr. McClain pulled his gun and his grin? Would you argue that Mr. McClain’s behavior that day was an indication that Mr. Jackson had lost the locker room, that Mr. McClain’s behavior that day was an illustrative of a larger “mutinous attitude” that existed on the team?
Get off it.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 am
mcclain’s aim with his gun is as accurate as his aim on the field. he misses a LOT.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:07 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
i was mainly talking about priest’s ridiculous claim that mcclain’s suckness had to do with the staff.
i have said i’m not impressed with the staff.
but some things have happened since last year.
dmc is not the same. his absence helped lead to a 1-4 finish last year and he looked horrible this year.
wiz moved to center. it was a mistake.
seymour’s gimpiness has deteriorated his play and the whole line has suffered as a result.
i still think the team should be better, but mcclain is horrible.
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I beg to differ. I think DMAC is the same. He’s just not in the same position to show it.
Just like up until 3 games ago Reese was the same as last year, but somehow couldn’t fit in or connect up with Palmer.
I think DHB is the same, but isn’t put in the same position as last year. We’ve all seen what our players strengths are and when put in the right position are playmakers. Especially on offense. That’s not really there this year for most of them.
wiz looked better and so did every other lineman last year.
The Dline looked a hello a lot better last year.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:58 am
“Any football player who has pushed two administrations to the brink of despair absolutely needs a change of scenery, along with an injection of maturity.”
That’s from the Monte Poole article and it about sums up the McClain situation.
Suspend the fuk’n moron to some money back and/or waive him.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:00 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:46 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 29th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
As I posted earlier the Raiders may very well be pulling a Lance Kiffin or Mike Vick and trying to get some of their money back. It now seems painfully apparent that McClain was PURPOSEFULLY doing nothing out there and being insubordinate. I don’t know if he is going to another NFL team any time soon.
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What a pile of bull crap!
No coach should put put up with this stuff. McClain goes on Facebook to whine about the team?!
Suspend him at a cost of $970,000 a day to MCCLAIN!
And then waive him!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:03 am
i find it hard to believe any raider fan could still support this punk.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:12 am
Raiding Teexas either you’re a pathetic liar or you have some sorry lying sources.
McClain or anyother NFL player would back down from or fear Denise Allen. If there was a NFL player weak enough to fear DA, they player would have no business playing football. A blind man can see Denise Allen is a pencil necked wimp who couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paperbag loaded with holes.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Palmer is 9-3 against the Browns all-time, with 25 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and a 90.6 passer rating.
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Palmer was a Ravens killer before we faced them this season too. Plus he was supposed primed & ready for a big FU game to the Cincy owner when we faced the Bungles
I dont make much of this comment above by Steve and I’d rather see Pryor start some games with a fair shot at winning, rather than throwing him in there when we’re getting blown out in the 4th qtr and teams know we have to pass so they blitz every down and tee off on the QB – especially with this awful O-Line!!
that isn’t setting Terrelle up for success
November 30th, 2012 at 4:14 am
so Trent Richardson is pretty high on McClain, eh?
I would trade McClain, Kelly & Branch to Cleveland right now in exchange for NT Phil Taylor (2nd year pro outta Baylor)
November 30th, 2012 at 4:17 am
I’d follow that up with a trade offer of Jacoby Ford, Mike Brisiel & Michael Huff in exchange for MLB D’Qwell Jackson …
November 30th, 2012 at 4:19 am
that isn’t setting Terrelle up for success
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Utilizing players talents and setting them up for success is not this managements strong suit.
I agree this would be the game or KC to get the kid some meaningful reps.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:22 am
Rock
Your “Blue Light Special” trades are solid. I am with you.
I hope we get some value for our rejects, i am afraid we are gonna be stuck with a lot of our deadweight
November 30th, 2012 at 4:23 am
GM Reggie is a former Raider LB … I told you guys that he wouldn’t settle for less with LB’s on the roster
his standards or expectations for them will be much higher than any other position
the starters he inherited were Wimbley, Curry & McClain
where are they now??
Our LB’s next season are gonna kick some @$$
November 30th, 2012 at 4:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Palmer is 9-3 against the Browns all-time, with 25 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and a 90.6 passer rating.
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Palmer was a Ravens killer before we faced them this season too. Plus he was supposed primed & ready for a big FU game to the Cincy owner when we faced the Bungles
I dont make much of this comment above by Steve and I’d rather see Pryor start some games with a fair shot at winning, rather than throwing him in there when we’re getting blown out in the 4th qtr and teams know we have to pass so they blitz every down and tee off on the QB – especially with this awful O-Line!!
that isn’t setting Terrelle up for success
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uh, that’s because the actual raiders (not this board) aren’t concerned with pryor at the moment. setting him up for success isn’t even in the cards right now.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:26 am
i will be surprised if pryor ends the year with more than 20 pass attempts, which would come in the last couple games, if that.
not that i’m not for him. it’s just reality.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:26 am
Your “Blue Light Special” trades are solid. I am with you.
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LOL!!
thanks JRJ. the turd purge began the day BigMac was hired and it’s a 2 or 3 year process
I think think we’ll be stuck with too many “out of whack” contracts when we’re heading in Reg Season week 1 next year
Reggie is gonna wheel & deal, then cut ties with the slackers & check cashers. Can’t blame him for giving some of these guys a chance under different management in hopes of better results. It just hasn’t happened
November 30th, 2012 at 4:28 am
i will be surprised if pryor ends the year with more than 20 pass attempts
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you’re probably right Dr Bob, but I hope the Raiders are smarter than that. Hopefully they prove us wrong and make some effort to develop a young player, especially a QB!!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 am
#588 correction
I think think = I don’t think
November 30th, 2012 at 4:32 am
72 year old Monte Kiffin wants back in the NFL
anybody want to give him DA’s job and draft that Barkley kid??
I’m all for shipping Palmer & McFadden off to the highest bidder and then trading up a few spots in the draft
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 am
This dude got a Romney tattoo on his face.
http://news.yahoo.com/wrestler-romney-face-tattoo-removed-175257435–abc-news-politics.html
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 am
why is it taking so long for reggie to make a decision
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 am
I guess there is no hurry with McClain. He’s never playing for the Raiders again.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Good Morning and happy rain day, Nation!!!
Rockstar, good to see you in here! I hope you and the fam are well…but Barkley, and having Monte Kif lead the team???
November 30th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Is there any chance that this is a wake up call for McClain and Reg and DA get him straightened out?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:17 am
I’d follow that up with a trade offer of Jacoby Ford, Mike Brisiel & Michael Huff in exchange for MLB D’Qwell Jackson …
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Is Matt Millen taking over for holmgren in Cleve? If so sign mike Williams for a day and throw him in the deal. That should seal it. Ford, briesel & huff for Jackson, haha…
November 30th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Nycraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 am
why is it taking so long for reggie to make a decision
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Best guess: McClain is inactive (and away from the team) Sunday, is suspended for the rest of the season w/o pay for Conduct Detrimental on Tuesday, and then cut sometime in February.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Raiders For Life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Is there any chance that this is a wake up call for McClain and Reg and DA get him straightened out?
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Doubt it. He’s gone.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Raiders For Life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Is there any chance that this is a wake up call for McClain and Reg and DA get him straightened out?
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I think this is actually very fortunate for the Raiders. He’s due to get a big pay raise next year. If they can get rid of him without having to pay that salary that will be great.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Excellent point Albert.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Off to work, HAPPY FRIDAY Nation
November 30th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Raiders For Life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Is there any chance that this is a wake up call for McClain and Reg and DA get him straightened out?
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His wake up call was when he put a gun to someone’s head.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:22 am
25 years ago today, I went to my first Raider game in Seattle. It was Monday Night and Bo Jackson ran for 221 yards, running over Brian Bosworth for one TD. His other run went for 91 yards. That was one of the best days of my life.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:22 am
nycraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 am
why is it taking so long for reggie to make a decision
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I would think it’s the money. If the suspend him they don’t have to pay him. Probably just getting all the ducks in a row so they satisfy the players union.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Sam Farmer @LATimesfarmer
Good one from @RJinVegas: It’s the 1st time the Browns have been favored this season, and only 2nd time since 2007 they’re road favorites.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
25 years ago today, I went to my first Raider game in Seattle. It was Monday Night and Bo Jackson ran for 221 yards, running over Brian Bosworth for one TD. His other run went for 91 yards. That was one of the best days of my life.
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50 years ago today, Bo Jackson was born.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:29 am
50 years ago today, Bo Jackson was born.
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I bet he can still run faster than most people half his age.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:32 am
BO KNOWS !!
November 30th, 2012 at 6:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:32 am
72 year old Monte Kiffin wants back in the NFL
anybody want to give him DA’s job and draft that Barkley kid??
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You should go back to bed, Rockstar. I don’t know what you had to drink last night but it hasn’t worn off yet.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:34 am
While the Raiders are sh!tting their pants the Warriors are rollin.
GOLDEN STATE F’ng WARRIORS!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 6:41 am
David Lee should be an All-Star.
Getting him for Anthony Randolph was one of the most one-sided trades in the history of sports.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:42 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:34 am
While the Raiders are sh!tting their pants the Warriors are rollin.
GOLDEN STATE F’ng WARRIORS!!!!
Yeah you guys got a good ride going! I hope its not like the usual years and fall off come playoff time!
November 30th, 2012 at 6:44 am
BTW, Mark Jackson did just as bad of a tank job his first year as Dennis Allen has.
Took a team 10 games under .500 to 20 games under .500, even though they played 20 less games last year!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 6:46 am
And of course, when the Lee for Randolph trade happened Priest was arguing with me that it was a stupid trade, and that you can’t give up on a “talent” like Randolph.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 am
They should sit Bogut until the All-Star break let him get right and unleash the fury in the 2nd half.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:52 am
ALL THE TP6 TALK..NOW ALL THE SUDDEN PALMER HAS A SORE THUMB..COINCEDENCE ??
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Happy Birthday Bo!
I’ll always remember that Seattle game.A newspaper this side of the pond reviewed the game with “Bo meets Boz and wishes he’d brought his bat”.
How wrong can you be?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:54 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:52 am
ALL THE TP6 TALK..NOW ALL THE SUDDEN PALMER HAS A SORE THUMB..COINCEDENCE ??
I know right?
I think they will just use him in packages! I’m gonna be pi**ed if he has a good day when he’s in because I’m not going and the darn game is blacked out…lol
November 30th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Bogut stinks, and has played like 50 games over his last 3 surgeries.
Never will be the same. Just had microfracture on his ankle.
He’s done.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:56 am
There is no question in my mind that the Raiders are getting their ducks all sorted out with the NFL and Players Union in order to properly handle the RoMac deal.
I was listening to the local radio this morning (Bills country) these guys were talking about RoMac. They think the Bills should jump on him if he is waived. They went on to talk about how good he is, and how he is just stuck on a crappy team. I called in, explained the truth about McClain, and reminded them that we have played a Super Bowl since the last time the Bills sniffed the playoffs. They hung up on me… LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 6:57 am
I know right?
I think they will just use him in packages! I’m gonna be pi**ed if he has a good day when he’s in because I’m not going and the darn game is blacked out…lol
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Don’t worry bud, if that happens I will DM you in Twitter with my login info for NFL Replay and you can watch the game in full HD!
November 30th, 2012 at 6:58 am
DAMN HWNRDR, WHO’S GONNA BUY ME BEER IF U AINT THERE ??
November 30th, 2012 at 7:01 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Nycraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 am
why is it taking so long for reggie to make a decision
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Best guess: McClain is inactive (and away from the team) Sunday, is suspended for the rest of the season w/o pay for Conduct Detrimental on Tuesday, and then cut sometime in February.
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Doesnt it seem like a pattern? Same thing with suspended players, ejected players, purple drank, cutting DeAngelo Hall … they must do a better job on character of the people they draft…this wasnt on Reggie’s watch, so they are clearing out…i just felt bad the released Vic S’oto, for a space for Curry, then end up cutting Curry – i mean, they have to get out of these personnel moves..will Omar Gaither show anything?
HELP!! Draft some ballers, PLEASE!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:02 am
I for one hope to see TP play, and not in mop-up duty or some circus act “packages”.
Give him a drive in the 2nd quarter, with the game in question still, and with the whole field to work with.
And run an NFL offensive series and see what he can do. See if he can convert a 3rd and 7, see if he can audible if need be, see if he can adjust the blocking scheme, see if he can be a QB.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:06 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:52 am
ALL THE TP6 TALK..NOW ALL THE SUDDEN PALMER HAS A SORE THUMB..COINCEDENCE ??
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I thought the same thing until I heard that Lienart took all the 1st team reps in practice Thursday…
Oh yaaaaayyyyyy, they’re still going to wait on Pryor…
I’ve got absolutely ZERO interest in watching #7 play QB against the Brown Stains.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:07 am
For all you wish full thinkers out there, Gruden not going to UT. I guess that means Gruden and Monte Kiffin are coming to the Raiders:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/report-gruden-out-at-ut-candidate/
November 30th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Vegas….
I can only see Pryor playing trash time.Allen will want to try and win this game for his own sake as well as the teams.He’s not going to play an unproven rookie if the games tight.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:07 am
For all you wish full thinkers out there, Gruden not going to UT. I guess that means Gruden and Monte Kiffin are coming to the Raiders:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/report-gruden-out-at-ut-candidate/
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What the hell are they going to be Gruden with.. Allen would still be under contract…so they’d pay two coaches?! Thats a Daniel Snyder move….not a Mark Davis one.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:09 am
All these other teams think RoMac is a good player because nobody else in the country pays any attention to the Raiders. We live in our own little world of crapdom.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Just wanted to say I spend WAY TOO much time reading everybody’s blog entries. The different perspectives, takes on the personnel and the football in general I find really interesting.
Anyways, I think the thing is, we’ll never know who is ‘really’ at fault in terms of players or coaches until one of them becomes constant. Every year, it’s one or both entities getting whacked and a whole new group comes and starts from scratch.
That’s why, I’m in favour of DA and co. coming back next year. Am I impressed with DA this year? Not really (don’t even get me started on the Knapp situation). But the bottom line is, as a Raider fan who desperately wants to see some resepct and accomplishment return to this organization, I don’t have a choice.
If DA gets fired, this year goes for not and it’s ground hog day next season with a new coach, new players….AGAIN.
For years we watched Al hire stooges/lackeys at minimum wage for coaches and let strictly average /overpaid players run the show. Did that work? See for yourself. #hashtag the W-L record the last 10 years. Basically, outside of the Chucky era, the last 20.
At least now, I see Reggie and DA attemping to rectify that mind set. *disclaimer, if #55 ever steps foot on the field with our logo on again, I take this all back.
Are they the guys to run the show? Only time will tell. I haven’t agreed with everything they’ve done to say the least, but at least they are trying to change the systemic issues that have plauged this franchise.
Bottom line is, the roster needs significant changes, couple that with a year of experience under his belt, hopefully DA is a pleasant surprise to all of us next year? But we’ll never know unless he comes back.
Changing both the players and the coaches next off-season will just make this season and even bigger waste of time IMO.
We desperately need some consistency to start building a successful franchise. Al used to say all the time; “I’d rather be right than consistent.” I would counterpoint; “if you’re consistent, you’ll be right more often.”
Can’t wait for Reggie’s presser today!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:10 am
What the hell are they going to be Gruden with.. Allen would still be under contract…so they’d pay two coaches?! Thats a Daniel Snyder move….not a Mark Davis one.
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It’s also an Al Davis move. I don’t think Allen is getting fired. I think he deserves another year.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:10 am
RaiderSam Says:
What the hell are they going to be Gruden with.. Allen would still be under contract…so they’d pay two coaches?! Thats a Daniel Snyder move….not a Mark Davis one.
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Pretty sure ABP was being sarcastic.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:11 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:57 am
I know right?
I think they will just use him in packages! I’m gonna be pi**ed if he has a good day when he’s in because I’m not going and the darn game is blacked out…lol
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Don’t worry bud, if that happens I will DM you in Twitter with my login info for NFL Replay and you can watch the game in full HD!
Thanks bro!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Dirt Lot…LOL!
I’ll make it up on Thursday afternoon!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
All these other teams think RoMac is a good player because nobody else in the country pays any attention to the Raiders. We live in our own little world of crapdom.
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I said the same thing here yesterday. Some guys were talking about him on the radio here in Dallas. They were curious if he would be a good fit for the Cowboys. They were googling him and JUST THEN finding out about the Decatur gun incident. They had no idea about his on field or off field performance.
So they started a twitter hashtag #DaylightPistolWhipper to send thoughts on Rolando as a Cowboy. LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Anyone know when the Reggie presser starts?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Should have traded him while we could
November 30th, 2012 at 7:27 am
as soon as he gets out of the can…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Neilb Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Anyone know when the Reggie presser starts?
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It’s a mystery. Maybe Cork will let us know.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:28 am
rob ryan knows how to use him…DA barely knows how to use a sharpie…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:28 am
638.Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Should have traded him while we could
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You are just assuming they didn’t try. You have no idea.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 am
If the Raiders can average 36.5 points allowed over the remaining 5 games they will break the modern day season record currently held by 1981 Baltimore Colts at 533. That is with a defensive GM and Head Coach. Unbelievably pathetic. Mark could have hired Dumb and Dumber with better results. Ooops he did.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:41 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Wishbone Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 am
If the Raiders can average 36.5 points allowed over the remaining 5 games they will break the modern day season record currently held by 1981 Baltimore Colts at 533. That is with a defensive GM and Head Coach. Unbelievably pathetic. Mark could have hired Dumb and Dumber with better results. Ooops he did.
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I don’t think the Browns or the Chiefs are going to score over 30 points. The record is safe.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:46 am
When does it start and where can I watch it? Cork, Cork? Bueller, Bueller, anyone?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:50 am
When Al sacked Cable and hired Hue it was live on this site.
Sad times…..the camera kept going to Als hands’.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:51 am
The way Allen said “there’s going to be consequences to his actions” which is a very stern/angry attitude befitting something really bad being done. And the way it’s been reported that the players didn’t notice any shouting match whatsoever, but a quick calm conversation…
I wonder if what happened was something like, McClain quietly threatening Allen with physical harm. Or, the whole “actions” part meaning he physically did something to upset Allen, wonder if McClain walked off the field and urinated on Allen’s office door or something like that.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Bogut stinks, and has played like 50 games over his last 3 surgeries.
Never will be the same. Just had microfracture on his ankle.
He’s done.
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Microfracture surgery is bad. Bogut himself said he is nowhere close to coming back. That is not good.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:51 am
happy birthday Bo…possibly the greatest ever…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Changing both the players and the coaches next off-season will just make this season and even bigger waste of time IMO.
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good post, the risk is keeping the wrong coach/system and being set back another year/s based on draft pics to fit the system. If guys rally together and we show some progress these last five games, i’d be inclined to have hime stay for your reasoning as well. But if we lay a stinker v the chiefs browns carolina or sd….
November 30th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
rob ryan knows how to use him…DA barely knows how to use a sharpie…
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Oh right. Because that Dallas defense has been lights out this season. Forget that 28-point 2nd quarter last week. Just an anomaly.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Reggie is too level-headed and patient to turn over his HC and too much of the roster in one hit.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Is the presser this morning…..or does this GM sleep until 3pm too?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:58 am
anyone remeber hugh culverhouse the old owner of the bucs? He ran than team like a business, made money without even trying to win = reggie mckenzie & mark davis.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:00 am
@JayGlazer
Raiders NOT releasing Rolando McClain, instead however the team has suspended him for conduct detrimental
November 30th, 2012 at 8:00 am
The Bogut Deal continues teh Warriors historically bad luck with Centers…hope he makes it back sometime.
Will reggies Presser offer sub titles or the English speakers?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Oh right. Because that Dallas defense has been lights out this season. Forget that 28-point 2nd quarter last week. Just an anomaly
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ryan sucks. recent guys that have left here and flourished are stevie brown, chris clemons, randy moss, d’angelo hall (system fit), and bones (whatever his name was) fassell. lot more that sucked like burgess, that big dt we had that went to the pats, chris carr, nnamdi, routt, wimbley, sterling moore, louis murphy, chaz, phil buchannon, andrew walter etc
November 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
@JayGlazer
Raiders players tell me McClain was informed this morning and they believe the suspension was for more than just this week
November 30th, 2012 at 8:04 am
who cares whether 2yd average McFad comes back? At least Reece cares.
Romac will be a great playr elsewhere. That’s how it goes. Players biding their time until they can get out.
Please cut Seymour and Kelly already. Couple of loafs.
And if I was in Oakland I wouldn’t pay 80 bucks or whatever to see this. Too painful to watch.
Disgraceful.
Started w the bad coaching. Not much team morale left at this point.
And really all they needed was a new DC.
I suspected it might be really bad when Wiz abruptly quit. Who would have ever thought it’d be this bad?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:04 am
id take ryan anyday and the day before that over tarver…id take him as a coach over DA anytime….
November 30th, 2012 at 8:04 am
#653…
btw, that’s not necessarily a good thing either. it can be if you’re sure your coach is a good’un to build stability around for 3-5 years. but as this season has also shown, that patience and level-headedness can also mean suffering thru terrible play and coaching for far too long and not making more drastic changes. Too much sitting on hands, and/or too concerned avoiding admitting mistakes.
or, as has been noted by others, that patience and level-headedness can also lead to questionable personnel moves like PUP’ing Curry, cutting S’oto in order to activate him, losing S’oto to waivers and then cutting Curry the very next game…like not thinking ahead, not a trend-setter, just following formulas or the safe way. A GM and HC need to be more gamblers, try to be ahead of the league curve, innovate etc.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Boss01 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
@JayGlazer
Raiders players tell me McClain was informed this morning and they believe the suspension was for more than just this week
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It’s probably for the rest of the year. Then they will release him and get out of paying his contract.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Inonewordraider Says:
ryan sucks. recent guys that have left here and flourished are stevie brown, chris clemons, randy moss, d’angelo hall (system fit), and bones (whatever his name was) fassell. lot more that sucked like burgess, that big dt we had that went to the pats, chris carr, nnamdi, routt, wimbley, sterling moore, louis murphy, chaz, phil buchannon, andrew walter etc
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Stevie, yeah, that was a bad one to let go. Randy? He never wanted to be here. He was very upset about the trade. Arrived with a bad attitude. D’Angelo? Not a man-to-man guy. Never understood why Al brought him here. Bad move.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
mcclain has the talent and size to make it in the league and there are examples (zach randolph) of guys who get it later in their career but it’s a good gamble becuase most guys that don’t show the desire at some point in their career never get it
November 30th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Romac will be a great playr elsewhere. That’s how it goes. Players biding their time until they can get out.
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Yeah he will be a great player for the Allen Wranglers
November 30th, 2012 at 8:07 am
This team has regressed in ALL 3 Phases of the game…
it’s up to DA and his band of mifits to show some improvement in 1 area before the season ends…
Don’t talk about penalties cause even though they may be down, thet are coming at the WORST time in the game.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Only good thing about Ryan is that he coaches in Dall-ass.
I freaking hate Dallas and I love that such an incompetent POS is their DC.
cue: Nelson laugh.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am
actually cowboys are 8th in the league in D, so maybe i’ve watched the wrong cowboy games
November 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/raiders-suspend-rolando-mcclain-for-conduct-detrimental-to-team/
November 30th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Ryan brothers are a couple of overrated nimrods.
Period. I love seeing them lose.
Our D layed down every game under Ryan.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am
If we tried to trade him hed be gone..
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am
So the more i think about it, the Raiders need to just waive Rolando and not suspend him. If you do petty things like that just to not pay him, then you run the risk of getting a shady reputation with the rest of the players current and future. If you want to send a message, then just cut him
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Hope and pray that the Raiders cut Kelly, Huff, Branch, Seymour and McClaaaaame, and that all of them are picked up by division rivals.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am
can you believe we’re 25th in the league in total d? there are 7 teams worse than us…
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Hope and pray that the Raiders cut Kelly, Huff, Branch, Seymour and McClaaaaame, and that all of them are picked up by division rivals.
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you don’t like huff as a coner?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:17 am
676.inonewordraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Hope and pray that the Raiders cut Kelly, Huff, Branch, Seymour and McClaaaaame, and that all of them are picked up by division rivals.
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you don’t like huff as a coner?
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Are you kidding me? Watch next Thursday’s game and tell me if you still want Huff as our starting CB next year. Looking good against KC, Jax backup, and maybe the Browns is easy for anyone….Huff is toast when up against any legit QB.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Only reason teams don’t score more on us is because they don’t have to. We would be even lower on defense.
We were lower under Ryan because our offense used to actually score back then. Teams had to take the time to bust through Ryans ever-present late game prevent scheme. Only prevents you from winning.
Krappy: Call another 2 yarder up the middle and watch Mcfad tiptoe up to defenders and get thrown down.
and he still gets hurt!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Lane fired his dad huh?
Bummer lol
November 30th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Are you kidding me? Watch next Thursday’s game and tell me if you still want Huff as our starting CB next year. Looking good against KC, Jax backup, and maybe the Browns is easy for anyone….Huff is toast when up against any legit QB.
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who’s lit him up since the pitt game? troy smith? a.j. green? lance moore?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:17 am
676.inonewordraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Hope and pray that the Raiders cut Kelly, Huff, Branch, Seymour and McClaaaaame, and that all of them are picked up by division rivals.
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you don’t like huff as a coner?
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Are you kidding me? Watch next Thursday’s game and tell me if you still want Huff as our starting CB next year. Looking good against KC, Jax backup, and maybe the Browns is easy for anyone….Huff is toast when up against any legit QB.
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I’m not a big Huff fan, even at Corner, but he had his best game vs Atlanta
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Vincent Jackson is the only one that has worked Huff so far.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am
So the more i think about it, the Raiders need to just waive Rolando and not suspend him. If you do petty things like that just to not pay him, then you run the risk of getting a shady reputation with the rest of the players current and future. If you want to send a message, then just cut him
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Why is that shady? If he did something stupid, he should be suspended. Hue should have suspended him last season.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 am
654.Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Is the presser this morning…..or does this GM sleep until 3pm too?
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lol – hilarious!
Lots of honourable mentions for sure, but the one where John Herreira wanted to throw down with Tim Kawakami has to be my favourite.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Lane fired his dad huh?
Bummer lol
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Maybe Monte quit because he couldn’t stand being around his son that much.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Huff has speed, good size for a corner, has looked good tackling from the corner position, has some pics, and has improved quite a bit. I’ll keep my eye on him but looks promising to me
November 30th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am
So the more i think about it, the Raiders need to just waive Rolando and not suspend him. If you do petty things like that just to not pay him, then you run the risk of getting a shady reputation with the rest of the players current and future. If you want to send a message, then just cut him
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Why is that shady? If he did something stupid, he should be suspended. Hue should have suspended him last season.
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If he did something stupid, you make an example out of him by cutting him. But being petty just to cost him money is shady and takes away from the tone you’re trying to set. I was all for costing that dummy $$$ but it’s bad for the Front Office reputation
November 30th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Hard for any corner in this league when there is no pass rush.
Seymour.
With tough coaches, you don’t practice – you don’t play.
How you think the other players feel when he doesn’t ractice all week, but they still play him and he sucks?
And he’s a loudmouth. For what?
No game left in Seymour. Just cashing out.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:25 am
boss01 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Vincent Jackson is the only one that has worked Huff so far.
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Aside from Atl $ Cincy, he’s giving up at least one huge play in each week. Which is his MO every season.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 am
No, you are right, he played well against Atl and Cincy….maybe I withhold judgment until the end of the year for Huff at CB…..I just happened to watch Manning destroy him in Denver and I can’t get that out of my mind.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 am
No we have the worst D in the nfl… look at the points allowed
November 30th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Lane fired his dad huh?
Bummer lol
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Monte and his defense belong in the NFL.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Who doesn’t Manning destroy?
Raiders can kiss AFC West goodbye as long as Manning keeps it up.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Raiders didn’t release McClain so he wouldn’t sign with any AFC West teams or any other ones on the schedule. Probably afraid he will divulge the scheme & signals in addition to not wanting to pay him.
Chickenschytt move.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Regarding Romac, haha. Raider Rockstar and myself were tellin ya all about his lazy play BEFORE he became a Raider. In the Championship game he was jogging. RR would call him Morrison part 2. I’d rather have Morrison. This dude is a chump azz biotch, nothing more and a whole lot less. Anyone makei g excuses for him or thinking he going to be a good player elsewhere, PLEASE! Good riddance clown. Time to call your buddy Jrock for a purple dank party in (as Forrest Gump would say it) ALABAMA!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Monte Kiffin next Raiders DC?..
Morning fellas.. And Trolls..
November 30th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I’d trade Mcslow and all known associates
November 30th, 2012 at 8:30 am
690.Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 am
No, you are right, he played well against Atl and Cincy….maybe I withhold judgment until the end of the year for Huff at CB…..I just happened to watch Manning destroy him in Denver and I can’t get that out of my mind.
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The Denver game was his first game at corner, and it was against Manning. Since then he has improved.
Curious to see how he performs the second time around against Manning.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:30 am
I personally think Huff is over rated, always has been. He wasn’t that good at safety and he’s god awful at Corner. In my honest opinion Huff is part of the problem on Defense. If they do anything next year, move him back to safety and get some proven corners in here.
they can replace Kelly and Seymor as well for all I care. We have a lot of holes to fill…
November 30th, 2012 at 8:30 am
ALABAMA!
Sheeeeeeeeeeoooooooooo!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
#Raiders suspend #RolandoMcClain two games for “conduct detrimental to the team.” Suspension ends morning of Dec. 10
November 30th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Huff better be more than just OKAY at CB to justify his $11.2 million dollar cap hit next year….
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/michael-huff/
November 30th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Should have done the firesale..
November 30th, 2012 at 8:32 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Huff has speed, good size for a corner, has looked good tackling from the corner position, has some pics, and has improved quite a bit. I’ll keep my eye on him but looks promising to me
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No kidding. Especially since he was such a below average safety. He’s never had great football instincts, so being converted to lockdown corner should have happened right away. All he has to do is ONE thing… cover the WR. I will go insane if anyone moves him back to FS.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:34 am
trade Huff, he sux.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:34 am
2 games.. wow. Sooo much tougher on players than al.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Doesn’t matter who we get.
No coaching.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 am
The entire secondary is shìt
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 am
The whole defense needs to be overhauled. I’m tired of our D being so inept.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Dakota Says:
Huff better be more than just OKAY at CB to justify his $11.2 million dollar cap hit next year….
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/michael-huff/
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Agreed. But $3.3 million of that is already locked in from the signing bonus.
I don’t know the details of the $4 million misc bonus. Could be a roster bonus. If it is and he won’t restructure, I’d cut him before that kicks in.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 am
@CorkOnTheNFL
#Raiders suspend MLB Rolando McClain two games for conduct detrimental to the team. He rejoins the team Dec. 10
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B.S.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 am
The entire secondary is shìt
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ding, ding, ding! Somebody gets it.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Schefter just reported that DA suspended Rolano for 2 games…
November 30th, 2012 at 8:37 am
boss01 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 am
@CorkOnTheNFL
#Raiders suspend MLB Rolando McClain two games for conduct detrimental to the team. He rejoins the team Dec. 10
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B.S.
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Why? Might as well get a late round pick for him next year, if that’s even possible.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Cut the worthless ba$7ard now, let him jog around and miss tackles for some one else.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Should have done the firesale..
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There wasnt one that was feasible.
Unless we were playing Madden, then we could have done it.
But not in real life.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:39 am
LoL @ the new regime backing the coaches.. 2games for telling off the coach and saying he wants to play for a real team?? Whatever
November 30th, 2012 at 8:40 am
You can always firesale.. you just have to make deals that hurt.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:42 am
714.raiderjhawk Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:37 am
boss01 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 am
@CorkOnTheNFL
#Raiders suspend MLB Rolando McClain two games for conduct detrimental to the team. He rejoins the team Dec. 10
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B.S.
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Why? Might as well get a late round pick for him next year, if that’s even possible.
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The punk was on FB saying he couldn’t wait to be on a ‘real’ team and he gets 2 games? eff the late round pick I want that worthless lil weasel gone.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:42 am
the team has definetly quit on DA…watch this week…oh wait its blacked out. Thanks Reggie.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
WOW!!!
Two (2) whole games?
New regime really laying down the gaunlet.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Is this staff even watching the tape of any games?
It is beyond me how ANYONE could watch the tape of most of those big runs against us and not see what seems so obvious.
Even Greg Cosell says McClain is “the worst 4/3 linebacker in the NFL”.
NFLN’s ” AFC Playbook” were even laughing at him…literally laughing when they showed tape of him.
Now he challenges the HC and all they do is suspend him for two games?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: I don’t think the Browns or the Chiefs are going to score over 30 points. The record is safe.================================================
The other three just have to score 42 each. Never say never. We can do it. Last year, penalties and penalty yards. This year total points allowed. NFL records will continue to fall in our wake.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Stevie, yeah, that was a bad one to let go. Randy? He never wanted to be here. He was very upset about the trade. Arrived with a bad attitude. D’Angelo? Not a man-to-man guy. Never understood why Al brought him here. Bad move.
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Yeah but that’s the whole point. We’re implementing systems here where the entirety of the roster “isn’t a good fit”. It’s not true every player is crap.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Moss didnt arrive with a bad attitude. He was on fire until he got injured. Then bad coaching of Art Shell and B&B2 came along and suddenly “he lost a step” and “wasn’t executing”. Then he leaves to a system fit and breaks records the next year.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
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