McClain suspended by Raiders
By Steve Corkran
Friday, November 30th, 2012 at 8:38 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders on Friday suspended middle linebacker Rolando McClain two games for conduct detrimental to the team.
McClain is eligible to return to the team Dec. 10. He was excused from practice Wednesday after a talk with coach Dennis Allen. On Thursday, the Raiders asked McClain not to show up for practice, and he complied.
McClain will not be paid for the two games he is suspended. That amounts to a little more than $100,000.
This means that Omar Gaither will start at middle linebacker Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, a little more than two weeks after being signed by the Raiders.
Gaither has experience as a starter at all three linebacker spots, so he should be able to step in and hold his own. He also is versatile enough to play on passing situations, something McClain wasn’t permitted to do the past seven games.
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November 30th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Raiderbuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Cut the worthless ba$7ard now, let him jog around and miss tackles for some one else.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Should have done the firesale..
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There wasnt one that was feasible.
Unless we were playing Madden, then we could have done it.
But not in real life.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:39 am
If they cut him now then he’s a total loss, might as well see if anyone will give us a 6 or 7 for him next year…
November 30th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Released after the Bronco game. In other words, couldnt even get a 7th rounder for him.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I think Reggie and DA are hoping Slowlando will head home for a couple of weeks and maybe blow someone’s head off for looking at him and his buddies the wrong way….and then they can terminate his contract for cause!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Hawk they tried, nobody offered a damn thing, which is what he is worth.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Yup! Everyone is gonna wait til we cut his arse!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Then no sense in cutting him now. Let him rot on the bench for the rest of the season like Al woulda done.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Looks like the Raiders couldn’t let him twist in the wind for a week, then suspend him. Union probably would have gone ape sh;t.
May mean that we have to release him prior to week 17. It’s a long shot but he might not clear waivers. A contender with LB injuries (HOU and BAL come to mind, both 3-4 teams) and cut him prior to his $4M 2013 salary comes due.
If this @$$#01e wins a Super Bowl with absolutely no effort, I’m gonna be p;ssed but we did what we could and this is 100% the right move.
Bravo, management. One of the few things you got right so far.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
You can always firesale… it means sell for almost nothing.. get it?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:44 am
They did not try to trade him its way past to trade deadline
November 30th, 2012 at 8:44 am
I seriously doubt Houston or Baltimore would sign this head case. They are smarter than that.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:45 am
If anyone does it will be Belichek or Cinci.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Of course he’ll get signed. I just hope he jogs for the next team.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:47 am
dallas will get him….
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
You can always firesale… it means sell for almost nothing.. get it?
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You cant sell what others wont buy…for almost nothing.
Contracts that we have are untouchable.
The unfortunate part of Al’s signings.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
McClain is immature. Obviously.
But he was used wrong here his whole time.
He will be a good ILB somewhere.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Anyone know what time the presser is? hopefully Knapp get canned today… to bad DA doesn’t know squat about Offense, which is pry the only reason Knapp still has a job.
mark my words, If Knapp is back next year… I’m done.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:49 am
nah…he will play hard for his next team….nobody wants to play for reggie and DA except college overachievers…
November 30th, 2012 at 8:50 am
raiderjhawk Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Anyone know what time the presser is? hopefully Knapp get canned today… to bad DA doesn’t know squat about Offense, which is pry the only reason Knapp still has a job.
mark my words, If Knapp is back next year… I’m done.
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Marked.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:52 am
so no one knows when the presser is then?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Is this staff even watching the tape of any games?
It is beyond me how ANYONE could watch the tape of most of those big runs against us and not see what seems so obvious.
Even Greg Cosell says McClain is “the worst 4/3 linebacker in the NFL”.
NFLN’s ” AFC Playbook” were even laughing at him…literally laughing when they showed tape of him.
Now he challenges the HC and all they do is suspend him for two games?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Is there really a Reggie presser today?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:56 am
I don’t claim to be a former coach (or current one) that knows EVERYTHING about schemes and defensive responsibilities but it’s just common sense that when an opposing player is running with the football and he goes right past you while you are engaged in some other activity, that you should bear some responsibility in neglecting to make an adequate attempt to tackle said person.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:57 am
They are screwing him. He deserves it. Chubby, slow, no heart, self centered, bust. He can’t fit in any system. The only system good for Morondo is the Penal System.
One of the worst LBs I’ve ever seen wear the silver and black.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Jay Glazer is the man.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DA is racist.If Mclain was white there wouldnt have been any suspension.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Nothing on Google about a press conference from reggie mckenzie
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Thats what this staff is telling him to do to take on the blocks, fill the hole and let the weakside lbs finish the play…
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DA is racist.If Mclain was white there wouldnt have been any suspension.
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Troll, troll, troll your boat…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Happy birthday Bo Jackson!
Now THAT guy was a Raider!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:00 am
This is not good, just cut him. Don’t be petty for $100k.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:00 am
i can understand why he blew up at the DA, he gets called out for doing what they want him to do and nobody else makes their play…meanwhile people just see the run and blow up
on him…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The Alex Smith rumors are bothering me….if we sign that POS I may go postal. We already had Captain Checkdown…..now we are going to sign Super Captain Checkdown?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Thats what this staff is telling him to do to take on the blocks, fill the hole and let the weakside lbs finish the play…
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And your evidence for this is…?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: I don’t think the Browns or the Chiefs are going to score over 30 points. The record is safe.================================================
The other three just have to score 42 each. Never say never. We can do it. Last year, penalties and penalty yards. This year total points allowed. NFL records will continue to fall in our wake.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I know we are getting Alex Smith, and am all for it….he will show Jim what a huuuuge mistake hes made.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Hue Jackson didnt have the character or morals to suspend McClain.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:04 am
And if we trade Palmer and Mcfadden like some here suggest, next year the record for fewest points scored can be ours.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:04 am
McLain wouldnt have been suspended if he was even halfway decent on the field,..dude sucked,..badly,..he let a late round honky from nowheresville beat him out.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Have to keep Knapp for that one, though.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Now he challenges the HC and all they do is suspend him for two games?
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Very likely that is all they could sell the the NFLPA
November 30th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Been awhile since I last posted on here got to say that this whole mclame situation is carry over baggage from last year. He was already on a short leash with the staff and got the playing time reduced. So him getting suspended comes as no surprise to me.. every sunday i watched in disbelief that this was the effort/ability of our middle LB..
He isn’t the only on the defensive end that needs to Tk, R.Sey , M Gio and lord knows we need cb help..this doesnt excuse the effort put forth by mclame. i want to see Reggie McK stay busy before,during and after the draft.. better be wheeling and dealing with player to player trades or players for picks. Reports are that this draft is loaded with defensive talent..why not use this draft to revamp the defense once and for all..
most importantly get gone mclame ..you done pooped the bed in Oakland take that terrible impersonation of a NFL LB somewhere else..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Now he challenges the HC and all they do is suspend him for two games?
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Very likely that is all they could sell the the NFLPA
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Correct.
Ahh refreshing, a logical assumption.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
30.DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DA is racist.If Mclain was white there wouldnt have been any suspension.
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Troll, troll, troll your boat…
SHUT,SHUT,SHUT YOUR MOUTH…little tiny punk,I will bust your a$$ then throw you in a trunk.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Wow people are really excited to get Alex Smith? Is he going to bring SF’s entire defense with him? If you want a guy who checks down and struggles with down field accuracy, then just resign Jason Cambell
November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Carson Palmer isnt tradeable.
McFadden is, but he will only net something around a 4th rounder.
Turn the PS3 off.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 am
DennisAllensVisor Says: Troll, troll, troll your boat…==
Keep the AM caht civil. Do not engage!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Chat.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The Alex Smith rumors are bothering me….if we sign that POS I may go postal.
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You going postal? That ship already sailed Dakota.
I agree with you though, I sure don’t want Smith.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
30.DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DA is racist.If Mclain was white there wouldnt have been any suspension.
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Troll, troll, troll your boat…
SHUT,SHUT,SHUT YOUR MOUTH…little tiny punk,I will bust your a$$ then throw you in a trunk.
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I dont want you touching my butt.. Why would you want to touch my butt?!?..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 am
I’d like to sign Alex Smith as a CB. No one shuts down a passing game like Alex Smith.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 am
50.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The Alex Smith rumors are bothering me….if we sign that POS I may go postal.
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You going postal? That ship already sailed Dakota.
I agree with you though, I sure don’t want Smith.
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I may go work place violent! Too bad I am self employed 8(
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Dangit, I fed the troll.
Sorry guys.. Back to realistic, logical Raiders talk.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
You can always firesale… it means sell for almost nothing.. get it?
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You cant sell what others wont buy…for almost nothing.
Contracts that we have are untouchable.
The unfortunate part of Al’s signings.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Like I said yesterday, McClain is making $900+ this season, and TK & Seymour restructured at the beginning of the season. Lechler has a $5.65 million cap hit, and we should have done something earlier.
I guess that’s too complicated for you to understand.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 am
I’d like to sign Alex Smith as a CB. No one shuts down a passing game like Alex Smith.
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LOL.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:12 am
As bad as Alex Smith may be in some of your eyes, he is a better fit for our offense than Palmer.
I see Smith ending up in KC though..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:13 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:12 am
As bad as Alex Smith may be in some of your eyes, he is a better fit for our offense than Palmer.
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Then wouldn’t the poper solution be change the offense? How good can it be if Alex Smith is the best fit
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Lol.. ” I’d like to sign Alex Smith as a CB……. No one shuts down a passing game like Alex Smith…
Good one…!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
You can always firesale… it means sell for almost nothing.. get it?
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You cant sell what others wont buy…for almost nothing.
Contracts that we have are untouchable.
The unfortunate part of Al’s signings.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Like I said yesterday, McClain is making $900+ this season, and TK & Seymour restructured at the beginning of the season. Lechler has a $5.65 million cap hit, and we should have done something earlier.
I guess that’s too complicated for you to understand.
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THIS SEASON, yes.
But McClain makes over 4 million next year, then 5 the year after…
Seymour restructured for THIS year, next season he has gt’d money over 8 million….
I guess THAT’S a little too complicated…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:15 am
CBS sports has eight guys picking games every week and this week it was 7-1 for Cleveland.
I’m not buying it, I think the Raiders are going to win.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:49 am
nah…he will play hard for his next team….nobody wants to play for reggie and DA except college overachievers…
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Hope that ain’t true but it seems that way…. and the players that have pride, Reece-DHB-Palmer-Wheeler and those guys
November 30th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:13 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:12 am
As bad as Alex Smith may be in some of your eyes, he is a better fit for our offense than Palmer.
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Then wouldn’t the poper solution be change the offense? How good can it be if Alex Smith is the best fit
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Smith has shown last year and this that he can be a good QB.
The numbers dont lie.
Its trendy to bash him, but he has got the job done the past year and a half.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:16 am
FIRE REGGIE TODAY!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raiders are winning huge, blowout,..its on my parlay card,..and yes of course I will be there,..row 1.
#LocalsgettheChargergame
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Smith has shown last year and this that he can be a good QB.
The numbers dont lie.
Its trendy to bash him, but he has got the job done the past year and a half.
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Matt Cassell was solid for one year, Numbers may not lie, but they don’t tell the whole story.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
English, you are sadly mistaken.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I’d take Palmer anyday over Smith
November 30th, 2012 at 9:18 am
quack dont you watch the games? read what DA says? Execution? Assignments? They have boxed each player into roles….discipline? remember…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Alex Smith will be a Raider in February,..and I am all for it big time,..hes perfect,..married to an ex Raiderette,..all in the family now,..and stick it to Big Jim across the bridge,..or rather, down 880 when they are in Santa Clara.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I can’t believe people are still blaming Al who dies last year.
Do you people work? How many managers/ CEOs/ CFOs get hired to fix co/ corps with issues (money, contracts, employees, etc)? Would you tolerate them blaming the
Previous management, or do you want them to fix the issues?
No one forced Reggie to keep a punter with a $5.65 cap hit
No one forced regime to pay Brisiel and not a good CB or pass rusher
No one forced Reggie and DA to hire the turd monkeys aka coaching staff
Keep blaming AL for bad contracts and the salary cap problems.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Alex Smith= Matt Leineart
November 30th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Alex Smith went 18/19 in a game this yr. and was a top 5 passer in this league when replaced.
Why anyone would call him a bad QB is beyond me.
I know Tebow is considered a horrible joke of a passer, but yet he did pretty darn good against us. I remember that strike on that slant over the middle to Decker for the TD and then a few other nice throws.
Then, he THROWS for 336 yd’s and a couple td’s in a PLAYOFF game to beat Pittsburgh.
I would say Tebow is more inconsistent than anything else.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:19 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Smith has shown last year and this that he can be a good QB.
The numbers dont lie.
Its trendy to bash him, but he has got the job done the past year and a half.
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Matt Cassell was solid for one year, Numbers may not lie, but they don’t tell the whole story.
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Yep. It is true that a QB who fits what an offense is trying to do and has the right team around him will be successful.
Your argument against Smith should be that we dont have the players around him to get it done. Not Smith’s ability.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I certainly hope the Raiders lose to the Browns this weekend.
No more beating other bad teams and then claiming we are on the right track!
The only thing that proves it that our turds are a little better than theirs!
We need to lose out, get better draft position, and force Reggie into cutting the dogggshyyyyyt players with bad contracts and getting rid of the POS OC, DC, ST coach and o-line coach.
That is our only hope.
Anything else and we are just spinning our wheels.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:21 am
I’m annoyed with the 2 game suspension. But, I guess we should calm down. We don’t even know what McClain did. Unless Gaither is a complete failure, I don’t think he’s gonna play for us anymore
November 30th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Problem is its not about just picking Palmer or Smith, money is involved. And age..
Palmer is due over 12 million..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:22 am
The Raiders defense has been making opposing QBs look good for A while….
November 30th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Alex Smith kicked Oaklands butt both times hes faced them,…laughed at them walking off the field,…he lives in the bay area,…south bay,..married to a Raiderette,…he will be a Raider in February,..the same day Palmers released,..Matt released too,..Pryor may stay,..but doubt it.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Dakota, the fact that #7 took all the 1st team snaps says that they have zero interest in looking at Pryor. Sh*t, they’re still trying to look good (well better) instead of evaluate what they got for the future.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Alex Smith couldnt lace Palmers cleats.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
71.Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I can’t believe people are still blaming Al who dies last year.
Do you people work? How many managers/ CEOs/ CFOs get hired to fix co/ corps with issues (money, contracts, employees, etc)? Would you tolerate them blaming the
Previous management, or do you want them to fix the issues?
No one forced Reggie to keep a punter with a $5.65 cap hit
No one forced regime to pay Brisiel and not a good CB or pass rusher
No one forced Reggie and DA to hire the turd monkeys aka coaching staff
Keep blaming AL for bad contracts and the salary cap problems.
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50+% of the American people just re-elected a tool for President based on blaming someone from 4 years ago…..what planet do you live on Sandman!!!!!! Tatooine?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
You can always firesale… it means sell for almost nothing.. get it?
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You cant sell what others wont buy…for almost nothing.
Contracts that we have are untouchable.
The unfortunate part of Al’s signings.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Like I said yesterday, McClain is making $900+ this season, and TK & Seymour restructured at the beginning of the season. Lechler has a $5.65 million cap hit, and we should have done something earlier.
I guess that’s too complicated for you to understand.
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THIS SEASON, yes.
But McClain makes over 4 million next year, then 5 the year after…
Seymour restructured for THIS year, next season he has gt’d money over 8 million….
I guess THAT’S a little too complicated…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You missed the point, but I’m not surprised. You are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Players restructure to get traded. They can restructure before/ after the trade, and this happens on regular basis. They restructured this year to help our cap situation, and they can restructure to play for another team.
Wow! Rocket science.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Alex Smith will be a Raider in February,..and I am all for it big time,..hes perfect,..married to an ex Raiderette,..all in the family now,..and stick it to Big Jim across the bridge,..or rather, down 880 when they are in Santa Clara.
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He probably won’t let his wife come to the games.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/306/638/alex-smith-wife-elizabeth-barry_original.jpg?1326838086
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Alex Smith kicked Oaklands butt both times hes faced them,…laughed at them walking off the field,…he lives in the bay area,…south bay,..married to a Raiderette,…he will be a Raider in February,..the same day Palmers released,..Matt released too,..Pryor may stay,..but doubt it.
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They ran all over us. But Alex Smith’s incomplete passes are what kept it from being a complete blow out
November 30th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Just another in a long line of Davis picks who lacked heart and commitment.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:24 am
…I mean to say Tebow is “horribly” inconsistent. I relaize too you can’t judge a QB for what he does against the Raider defense.
Remember that bomb he threw to a guy in the endzone in the game at Oakland last yr.? It goes right thru Routt’s hands and into the receivers for a TD.
It almost seems our D plays scared and apprehensive no matter who the QB is.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Alex Smith is a bum.Please people.This reminds me of all the ROD Streater is our new #1 receiver.lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Watching this defense Blitz reminds me of Justin Fargas’s running style. Run full speed into the line and hope you come out the other side.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Lots of rumors out there saying that Denver may want McClaine is he’s cut.
That is hard to believe.
Apart from his relationship with Allen, Fox is way too smart for that.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Donald Hollas is better then Smith.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:26 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Watching this defense Blitz reminds me of Justin Fargas’s running style. Run full speed into the line and hope you come out the other side.
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Right?…….WTF?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
You can always firesale… it means sell for almost nothing.. get it?
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You cant sell what others wont buy…for almost nothing.
Contracts that we have are untouchable.
The unfortunate part of Al’s signings.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Like I said yesterday, McClain is making $900+ this season, and TK & Seymour restructured at the beginning of the season. Lechler has a $5.65 million cap hit, and we should have done something earlier.
I guess that’s too complicated for you to understand.
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THIS SEASON, yes.
But McClain makes over 4 million next year, then 5 the year after…
Seymour restructured for THIS year, next season he has gt’d money over 8 million….
I guess THAT’S a little too complicated…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You missed the point, but I’m not surprised. You are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Players restructure to get traded. They can restructure before/ after the trade, and this happens on regular basis. They restructured this year to help our cap situation, and they can restructure to play for another team.
Wow! Rocket science.
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You do understand that you cant make gt’d money go away by restructuring right?…
And you understand how a trade accelerator works right?
Cuz by your comments its seems you dont.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Reggie’s presser? Anybody?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
89.The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Watching this defense Blitz reminds me of Justin Fargas’s running style. Run full speed into the line and hope you come out the other side.
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Yes, very much so lol
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
ohioraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Just another in a long line of Davis picks who lacked heart and commitment.
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In defense of Al, I recall pretty much universal applause on this blog when McClaine was drafted.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
LOL White Devil.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:26 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Watching this defense Blitz reminds me of Justin Fargas’s running style. Run full speed into the line and hope you come out the other side.
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Right?…….WTF?
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They should play O-Line they way two guys double team one blocker
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Watching this defense Blitz reminds me of Justin Fargas’s running style. Run full speed into the line and hope you come out the other side.
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Comment of the day.
Congrats, sir.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Alex Smith is a horrible QB.Always has been.Right up Reggie’s alley I guess.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:29 am
They should play O-Line they way two guys double team one blocker
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LMMFAO
November 30th, 2012 at 9:29 am
If Jim called Reg right now and said give me DMC for Smith and a couple picks Reg would say how many picks ya need to get this done Jim?…Smith will be a Raider, book that…heck in his houe theres Raider gear all over the place,..from his two wins against them plus his wifes Raiderette pics. Letsg et this done asap,..goodbye Carson, hello Alex,..by the way Im not baggin on Palmer, he is the only Raider on this roster worthy of being called a Raider.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 am
I wouldn’t Want Smith or Tebow in Oakland ….
Palmers here… And problably gonna be here next year too….until the Raiders find a better replacement I’m backing Palmer…..if Pryor gets a start I hope he does well…. In anycase the Raiders need to think about a QB in the near future…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 am
While recognizing Fargas’s weaknesses I used to love the way that Fargas ran-lol-even though he was clearly never going to last longer than fifteen minutes.
Jerry’s description of that as “test dummy” running was perfect.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Watching this defense Blitz reminds me of Justin Fargas’s running style. Run full speed into the line and hope you come out the other side.
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Comment of the day.
Congrats, sir.
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Not proud of being able to burn the Raiders. Wish they were good cause i’d rather crack on other teams.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am
reggie at 1:00
November 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am
The McClain situation is BS. He should have been cut in training camp.
A lame diversionary tactic to distract fans and media from the failures of the current regime.
Reggie is a used car salesman.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Palmer is our qb now and of the future.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Give me 53 Justin Fargases and I’d be ok.
Just make sure at least 12 of em are super talented though.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 am
While recognizing Fargas’s weaknesses I used to love the way that Fargas ran-lol-even though he was clearly never going to last longer than fifteen minutes.
Jerry’s description of that as “test dummy” running was perfect.
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Yeah i like Huggy Bear Jr. too. He’s the kind of guy that if you need two yards, he’ll get you three. If you need 5 yards, he’ll get you three
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
You can manipulate the contract to benefit both the player and the team. It has been done before.
“Go away”?
LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
94.DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Reggie’s presser? Anybody?
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You missed it. He came out to the table dressed in green and yellow, sat there for 5 minutes staring out into space, then started crying, babbled something about out of whack contracts and coaches who failed him, and then abruptly stood up and announced he was headed to Golden Corral for their chocolate fountain.
Not sure what to read into it.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Reggie’s presser? Anybody?
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I’m beginning to think that Reggie’s Presser is an urban legend.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Reggie owes me $199.99,and I wont take it in food stamps.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Raider(since 1967)
★★★★★★★
MORNING CORK, MORNING NATION!
OH- that all, I had him already in the bottom of the ocean !
C’MON MAN! !! This Dude is so bad sharks won’t eat him !!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
He’s the kind of guy that if you need two yards, he’ll get you three. If you need 5 yards, he’ll get you three
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LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:34 am
” I’m not Baggin on Palmer , he is the only Raider on this Roster worthy of being called a Raider”….. Agree…. Their are a few others I concider worthy … But I hear ya… Plenty of slackers on this team
November 30th, 2012 at 9:34 am
You People are mad….
What makes more sense, us having the worst scouting department and GM in the league, or that we can’t develop young talent?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Reggie owes me $199.99,and I wont take it in food stamps.
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I bet you’ll take it up the ass.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
This is a basic breakdown I was reading by Bill Walsh about how he evaluates each position. It is from 1997 and the NFL changed from then til now, but all these years the Raiders have been trying to play such basic defense 4-3 straight up defense.
Check out what he says about the Strong Side Linebacker and his responsibilities and attributes he looks for when he’s going to draft one. Maybe this is the position McClain should have been playing in our 4-3 defense. He’s too big and slow and non-instictual to play MLB as we’ve seen the past 3 seasons. See below:
—”Now we also have the strong side linebacker, who plays opposite the tight end. He should be larger than the weak side outside linebacker, about 6-4, 250. He must have the hands and the range to hold up the tight end and to wade through the fullback, or whoever is blocking, to get to the ball. This strong side linebacker must be able to hold the edge of the defense.
He must be able to hold up the tight end. He can meet the fullback’s block. He can blitz effectively against running backs attempting to pass protect him. And he can meet the off tackle play of the fullback or the pulling guard. This position is not as common as it once was. Now they are shifting the line so a defensive lineman is over the tight end and the linebacker is stacked behind.
But it is still the same type of athlete. He typically plays on the tight end side and he is bigger and stronger. In the past he has not had to be a key coverage guy. But now if he is stacked behind a defensive lineman and protected, he becomes a key coverage man.”
Thats Bill Walsh talking, not me. But doesnt that sound like something he may have been good at if given the opportunity? Linign up over the tight end, blowing up the fullback? Thats what he does now, even when the ball carrier runs right by him (Doug Martin). haha.
Geez. SMH.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
You can manipulate the contract to benefit both the player and the team. It has been done before.
“Go away”?
LOL
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Richard Seymour isnt benefiting any team with his contract.
Simple fact.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Still waiting for the next Napoleon #26.Explosive sumbich.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Give me 53 Justin Fargases and I’d be ok.
Just make sure at least 12 of em are super talented though.
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Sounds like 12 of em wont be Justin fargas then..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:36 am
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 am
While recognizing Fargas’s weaknesses I used to love the way that Fargas ran-lol-even though he was clearly never going to last longer than fifteen minutes.
Jerry’s description of that as “test dummy” running was perfect.
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Yeah i like Huggy Bear Jr. too. He’s the kind of guy that if you need two yards, he’ll get you three. If you need 5 yards, he’ll get you three
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LOl.
I don’t know if that was intentional or not but it kind of works.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:36 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raiders are winning huge, blowout,..its on my parlay card,..and yes of course I will be there,..row 1.
#LocalsgettheChargergame
That last part right there gets me…dam boss making me work ona game that is blacked out…oh well!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Players restructure to get traded. They can restructure before/ after the trade, and this happens on regular basis. They restructured this year to help our cap situation, and they can restructure to play for another team.
Wow! Rocket science.
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NFL rules state that a contract that has been restructured, renegotiated, or torn up and a new contract signed CAN NOT be changed again for 365 days. None of the guys that restructured this year could do it again to accomodate a trade.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Still waiting for the next Napoleon #26.Explosive sumbich.
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I’ll take Zach Crockett at this point. Someone who can at least punch it in the endzone from the 2 yard line
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Palmers by no means a long term solution….. But for me… It’s the lines that need attention first…. O and D…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:38 am
It’s hard to believe how many hole’s this team has..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:38 am
119.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Reggie owes me $199.99,and I wont take it in food stamps.
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I bet you’ll take it up the ass.
========================================= Hi,my name is Albert the idiot,people call me Albert the idiot.I predicted playoffs ya know .drrrrrrrr
November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 am
fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Palmers by no means a long term solution….. But for me… It’s the lines that need attention first…. O and D…
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Yes. We’ve already seen what Alex Smith can do behind Barry Sims aka Kalif Barnes
November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Players restructure to get traded. They can restructure before/ after the trade, and this happens on regular basis. They restructured this year to help our cap situation, and they can restructure to play for another team.
Wow! Rocket science.
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NFL rules state that a contract that has been restructured, renegotiated, or torn up and a new contract signed CAN NOT be changed again for 365 days. None of the guys that restructured this year could do it again to accomodate a trade.
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But, But, I did it on Madden!!!…. LOL..
I tried to tell them there are rules, to no avail.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:40 am
127.The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Still waiting for the next Napoleon #26.Explosive sumbich.
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I’ll take Zach Crockett at this point. Someone who can at least punch it in the endzone from the 2 yard line
I loved the sledge hammer also.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Pryor should get the start. What the hell is there to lose? Worst case Pruyor shuts up all of those people in here who think he is an NFL QB and we lose games we would probably lose anyhow.
Best case, he shows some signs and then we are able to sucker some team out of a 2nd rounder for him in a draft day trade.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:40 am
127.The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Still waiting for the next Napoleon #26.Explosive sumbich.
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I’ll take Zach Crockett at this point. Someone who can at least punch it in the endzone from the 2 yard line
I loved the sledge hammer also.
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You know it’s comming, but you can’t stop it.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
lol….drrrrrrrr
November 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Wheatley,Kaufman,Crockett.Good ole days.Thats what happens when you have compitant coach.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Raider(since1967)
★★★★★★★
John Clayton from ESPN had him out HANGLAND!
WE need to DUMP this guy DUDES and stablish some
R E S P E C T –TO RAIDERNATION!
I had REGGIE taking his belt off and ? Well? Uh!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I wanna see Pryor as well….be awesome if we found out he’s a keeper
November 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Man that was a nasty backfield. Crockett, Wheatley (and his gigantic shoulder pads) and Garner. Crockett, behind our Oline was impossible to stop from getting 2 yards.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:43 am
135.The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:40 am
You know it’s comming, but you can’t stop it.
_________________
I had that issue when I was 17.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:44 am
yeah and now? ten yard run to the sidelined for -3
November 30th, 2012 at 9:44 am
140.bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Man that was a nasty backfield. Crockett, Wheatley (and his gigantic shoulder pads) and Garner. Crockett, behind our Oline was impossible to stop from getting 2 yards.
Dont forget big John Ritchie.Strange feller,but effective.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Yep… Zack Crockett could get you that 1,2 yards everytime… The guy was a Baller … Miss that kind of players on our team
November 30th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Jon Ritchie too… Another one
November 30th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Whats in da air Green Party?!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Pryor will never get a start,..get over it,..that was an Al Davis deal,..and didnt you all hate him?…seems to me, you be consistant, you should all demand Pryor released, due to your Al hatred. As usual, Im right again.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Jon Ritchie…. The bleeder… The guy would bleed walking out the tunnel
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Someone who can at least punch it in the endzone from the 2 yard line
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Better throw the ball then.
More than half of 3rd and 4th and 1’s are stopped short running the ball in the NFL.
First time in NFL history it is below 50%.
3rd and 2, is a passing down.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dont forget big John Ritchie.Strange feller,but effective.
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John Ritchie was completely ineffective… until his face started bleeding, then he turned into the incredible hulk! LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
148.fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Jon Ritchie…. The bleeder… The guy would bleed walking out the tunnel
Yes,but didnt give a fk!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:48 am
149.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Someone who can at least punch it in the endzone from the 2 yard line
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Better throw the ball then.
More than half of 3rd and 4th and 1’s are stopped short running the ball in the NFL.
First time in NFL history it is below 50%.
3rd and 2, is a passing down.
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Pathetic.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:50 am
I miss that Gruden game.5 backs.Also Terry Kirby and the other guy.Cant remember his name but I will in a second.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Pryor should get the start. What the hell is there to lose? Worst case Pruyor shuts up all of those people in here who think he is an NFL QB and we lose games we would probably lose anyhow.
Best case, he shows some signs and then we are able to sucker some team out of a 2nd rounder for him in a draft day trade.
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I have to question your take on the “best case scenario”
Why would best case mean he only shows enough promise to be traded for a second rounder?
Wouldn’t the best case be that he players well enough to prove he will be a very good qb for THIS team for years to come? Wouldnt best case mean he proves he can be the franchise qb to build around, like griffin or luck or something along those lines?
trading him would ean we missed on another qb prospect and we are a team with no heir apperent on the roster.
Why dont you want pryor to succeed here?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Gruden turned down the Tennessee job, said he is waiting to see if the Oakland Raiders job opens up this afternoon.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Jon Ritchie could block…. Awesome blocker
November 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am
255..lol
November 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Players restructure to get traded. They can restructure before/ after the trade, and this happens on regular basis. They restructured this year to help our cap situation, and they can restructure to play for another team.
Wow! Rocket science.
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NFL rules state that a contract that has been restructured, renegotiated, or torn up and a new contract signed CAN NOT be changed again for 365 days. None of the guys that restructured this year could do it again to accomodate a trade.
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But, But, I did it on Madden!!!…. LOL..
I tried to tell them there are rules, to no avail.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don’t be an idiot.
You know they restructured this year (TK & Seymour), so they don’t have to restructure again, and they can restructure next year to help their new team. McClain didn’t restructure.
Madden?!
Like I said, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I meant ..155..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Where is all this talk coming from about a trade of Alex Smith for McClain?
If that’s the case, keep McClain.
He’s a much better deep passer.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I see Dakota is still telling lies.
Morning brother!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 am
150.bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dont forget big John Ritchie.Strange feller,but effective.
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John Ritchie was completely ineffective… until his face started bleeding, then he turned into the incredible hulk! LOL
Hell of a lead blocker,could catch the ball out of the backfield also.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Al is God.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:50 am
I miss that Gruden game.5 backs.Also Terry Kirby and the other guy.Cant remember his name but I will in a second.
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Jordan.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Last week, our pathetic defense stopped the Bengals from the inch line 3 straight times. Also shut them down on two 3rd and 1 runs.
Saints game same thing, stopped them twice from the inch line, then the threw it for a TD.
3rd and 1 runs, don’t work.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Randy Jordan was the 5th guy.Gruden knew his sht.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I’m picturing Gruden right now sitting by his phone waiting to see if the Raider headcoaching job opens up today…he’s got his chucky doll on his lap ..
November 30th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Mush.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Randy Jordan was the blitz picker-upper extradonaire.
Seemed like he caught 1 3rd down pass, for every 4 blitzes he picked up.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Players restructure to get traded. They can restructure before/ after the trade, and this happens on regular basis. They restructured this year to help our cap situation, and they can restructure to play for another team.
Wow! Rocket science.
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NFL rules state that a contract that has been restructured, renegotiated, or torn up and a new contract signed CAN NOT be changed again for 365 days. None of the guys that restructured this year could do it again to accomodate a trade.
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But, But, I did it on Madden!!!…. LOL..
I tried to tell them there are rules, to no avail.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don’t be an idiot.
You know they restructured this year (TK & Seymour), so they don’t have to restructure again, and they can restructure next year to help their new team. McClain didn’t restructure.
Madden?!
Like I said, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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And the team trading for them would have to have the salary cap space to take them on BEFORE any re-do.
Attempt to insult me all you want. Doesnt distract away from the facts.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 am
fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am
255..lol
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Fingers is either remarkable prescient or else he’s already had a few beers since there are only 163 comments at this point.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 am
The Gruden talk is makeing me emotional.Its like dreaming of the lottery then relizeing it is a dream.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I see RAIDER EMPLOYEES are up and at em early this morning attempting to sway PUBLIC OPINION.
What’s the matter?
The 2 for 1 ticket promotion didn’t work this weekend so now we’re just gonna take it outta #55’s salary?
HAHAHAHAHA
November 30th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
Dangit, I fed the troll.
Sorry guys.. Back to realistic, logical Raiders talk.===
It’s hard to resist, but whatever you want to say to the idiots, rest assured they’ll provide you with ample opportunities later in the day when decorum is no longer the rule.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Roster bonuses, cap hit accelerators when traded, gt’d money, restructuring rules..
PLEASE take these into consideration before you make youself look foolish guys.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:57 am
171… Corrected it… Ya missed it…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am
So do I keep my Rolando jersey still?
Bummer I won’t get to wear it to the Donkey game.
Will have to bust out the Kenny Stabler ABQ state fair “throwback” special.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Everytime People talk about the Raiders with chuckie,his eyes light up.He wants and needs to come home.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am
NFL rules state that a contract that has been restructured, renegotiated, or torn up and a new contract signed CAN NOT be changed again for 365 days. None of the guys that restructured this year could do it again to accomodate a trade.
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That’s not the point. He was complaining about Al’s contracts and how we can’t trade the talent on our roster which is not true. My point is that players restructure to help their teams (as long as they don’t hurt themselves), and we can trade players who restructured (Seymour & TK).
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am
But I am getting ready to sacrifice a tree …( burn)
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Wow Dakota you really amaze me.Your credit score is zero in my book.Dakota,you were the main one against me when I Wanted our Raiders to select Adrian Peterson with our #7 selection.You said no hes injury prone and all of that.Then you go and put your face on an injury prone guy like Darren MCfadden.”Are you kiddin me”Rue the day—yeah right!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:59 am
No one did a presser like Al.
Mumbles presser will be a snooze fest.
It won’t move the needle.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Fingers,
Jon Gruden was the special offensive assistant/WR coach for the Green bay Packers for three seasons in the mid 1990s…..He and Reggie crossed paths in Green Bay in 1994-1995….I am sure they are close friends, and Jon would love to come work with him.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:59 am
And the team trading for them would have to have the salary cap space to take them on BEFORE any re-do.
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That’s the only valid point you have made so far. Good for you.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Jfb… I’m just gonna take MClains name off the back…like I did Moss …or hang it next to Russell’s jersey
November 30th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Bank Bank is right.
Dakotex is always wrong.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Still got your back DMAC!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dakota… I know… I also know its about the money…. Don’t think Oakland can afford Gruden
November 30th, 2012 at 10:01 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Roster bonuses, cap hit accelerators when traded, gt’d money, restructuring rules..
PLEASE take these into consideration before you make youself look foolish guys.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Contracts get manipulated to help both parties. Adding years, converting salary to bonus, etc….
Please think before you post, it helps you look less foolish.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Cool story.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Horrible officiating last night in the Dubs game, it almost cost us the game.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Where is that “Rue the Day” list?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota… I believe Gruden likes the Bay Area… I also think he would like working for the Raiders.and Reggie …. And I don’t think he’d take a huge pay cut to comeback… He could… But I doubt it
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
why dont you want pryor to succeed here?
I have an idea, i am seeing a pattern where your qb take is concerned.
…….not surprising
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
There are drawbacks to signing bonuses for the owner, however. Because the bonus is guaranteed to the player, if the player is released, traded or waived, all of the bonus money that was being prorated throughout the length of the contract is accelerated to the present year. So, if our team released its star player after the third year of his contract (before June 1) for whatever reason, the entire remainder of the bonus, almost $6.3-million, will have to count toward the cap the next year (if the team releases the player after June 1, only the yearly $1.57-million will count the next year, and the remainder will count the subsequent year).
Some teams have gotten themselves in trouble using signing bonuses, running up huge portions of cap room taken up by players who haven’t played for them in several years. With so much less money to spend than their rival teams, they have little chance of fielding a very competitive team for that year, as the best free agents usually go where the money is.
Clown shoes.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Horrible officiating last night in the Dubs game, it almost cost us the game.
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I hate the foul when up 3 theory.
Especially at home.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider (since 1967)
★★★★★★★
CORK – I have been reading all the sites even the VIC TUF an
Others like West coast & KAWA you know by now.
And they all talk of, if we SUSPEND him the moral and integrity of the team is not strong!
That the RAIDER FRANCHISE should show moral and remove such players from the team. And this will show a sample of
RESPECT to the organization and players!
By just a SLAP ON THE WRIST this is going to continue !
November 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Jon Ritchie…. The bleeder… The guy would bleed walking out the tunnel
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Yes,but didnt give a fk!
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You’re bleeding. I don’t have time to bleed. Ventura in Predator.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Horrible officiating last night in the Dubs game, it almost cost us the game.
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I hate the foul when up 3 theory.
Especially at home.
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That was some BS!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am
181.bank-bank Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Wow Dakota you really amaze me.Your credit score is zero in my book.Dakota,you were the main one against me when I Wanted our Raiders to select Adrian Peterson with our #7 selection.You said no hes injury prone and all of that.Then you go and put your face on an injury prone guy like Darren MCfadden.”Are you kiddin me”Rue the day—yeah right!!
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Our #7 pick? What are you talking about? Please post a comment where I said something like what you are claiming.
Thanks.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Jon makes $5 million + per year at ESPN.
Would probably take 7 million to get him back in the coaching ranks, which is about what Jeff Fisher got.
I don’t see him leaving the booth, to go to a team with no long-term solution at QB and in a lame duck situation with the stadium.
Would love to have him though.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Dakotex, you have to admit you are always wrong.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 am
194.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
why dont you want pryor to succeed here?
I have an idea, i am seeing a pattern where your qb take is concerned.
…….not surprising
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And what would that be?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Shaq is a mutha fk’n fool, calling David Lee WCW – White Chris Webber
LMAO!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
i can understand why he blew up at the DA, he gets called out for doing what they want him to do and nobody else makes their play…meanwhile people just see the run and blow up
on him…
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You’re in a small group of people that believes that. Pro Football Focus pretty much says he’s only good at tackling – and that assumes he gets near the play. Otherwise he is mediocre or bad at LB skills. Runs slow, hits the wrong gaps, and can’t shed blockers.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Gruden back in Oakland could be the biggest resurrection story in the histoy of sports.He has to be thinking about it.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:10 am
According to a league source, Buffalo has begun preliminary contract negotiations with pending free-agent safety Jairus Byrd. No deal is imminent.
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Wouldn’t mind Having Byrd roaming the field for us next year. We need safety help!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Jfb…agree… Too many perks for Gruden now…. Couldnt see him giving that up to comeback here …
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
David Lee should be an All-star.
Best player on our team, averaging a double-double.
And with Festivus in the middle, not as much of a defensive liability anymore.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
123.DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Give me 53 Justin Fargases and I’d be ok.
Just make sure at least 12 of em are super talented though.
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Sounds like 12 of em wont be Justin fargas then..
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touche
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
“@The_RealTruth: What time is your round table with Reggie?” >> after practice. Might go for a while. Fans have given me 126 questions
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Hope they put it up on the website.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Monte Kiffin said in a statement. “The chance to work for my son, Lane, was unique and memorable, but we always treated each other professionally on a coach-to-coach basis.”
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Unique and memorable? Not exactly words of praise… should have just said working for my son sucked. Al was right about him. I’m going to hook up with Gruden, a real coach, again in the NFL.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
206.Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Gruden back in Oakland could be the biggest resurrection story in the histoy of sports.He has to be thinking about it.
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Sorry, that was Phil rescuing the Lakers his second time around.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Just Fire Baby Says: So do I keep my Rolando jersey still?==============================================
Yeah, if you put Millens’ name on it.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:12 am
206…I’d love to see Gruden back in Oakland… Just don’t see it happening… He’s pretty comfortable in the booth… I’d think..
November 30th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 am
David Lee should be an All-star.
Best player on our team, averaging a double-double.
And with Festivus in the middle, not as much of a defensive liability anymore.
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Very underrated and faces some of the best power fowards in the game in the Western conference.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Great Raider Fans of America,T.Pryor is a keeper.I have no problem with him going forward.I think if given the opportunity,he will shine and make us proud.Stop listening to those who know it all and just give the kid a chance.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am
and can’t shed blockers.
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This is his biggest issue.
I don’t think he is anywhere near as slow as people say, and I see him make a lot more tackles than he misses.
But he never saw a FB he was just content to stand up, with zero intentions of disengaging and making a play.
At times, seems like a form of quitting, IMO.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Its all about he Benjamins baby!
Just show him the $$$$
November 30th, 2012 at 10:14 am
David Lee is a fantasy monster.
Not a real life all star though.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:14 am
NOMOSEFROS!
(no more overhyped SEC first rounders)
November 30th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Multiple Choice
Q:Why does Reggie have to schedule his interviews a week in advance?
A) To Prepare
B) To get people’s attention
C) To appear Busy
D) ALL OF THE ABOVE
November 30th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says: Dakotex, you have to admit you are always wrong.==============================
If he does, wouldn’t that mean he isn’t?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says: Dakotex, you have to admit you are always wrong.==============================
If he does, wouldn’t that mean he isn’t?
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*Head explodes*
November 30th, 2012 at 10:16 am
That dude Farid from the Nuggets is a straight beast! I hate that mutha fka, but would luv to have him on my team.
Real Talk!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Bummer I won’t get to wear it to the Donkey game.
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You could always tape Slowlando McLame over the nameplate… just wear kevlar underneath, just in case he actually hits something.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I beleive that if pryor plays well when he gets his chance it will attract some very good coaches both guys that could be oc, or even head coaches.
guys that love offense will drool if pryor shows a hint of what he showed in the preseason.
i know people say he looked bad in pre seaosn but if you take a closer look you will find that he improved as he went on.
Fits game he completed 53. % of his passes, in every other game he was over 60% very good for a rookie.
first two games rating of 32, then 70. the next three 143, 83, 92!!!
all together through four games he was
19/32 59.4 cmp% 251 yards 7.8 ypa 2 td 1int rate 92!!
14 rushes 121 yards 8.6 ypc 1td!!!
so far all those people that say he wasnt any good in pre season im not sure what you were watching.
Those numbers are outstanding for any rookie in any era.
I cant wait for this kid to get on the field
November 30th, 2012 at 10:19 am
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
November 30th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Preseason guy.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:20 am
That dude Farid from the Nuggets is a straight beast! I hate that mutha fka, but would luv to have him on my team.
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He can’t catch though!!!
Constantly fkn off great passes and losing rebounds and stuff.
110% effort, great defender, but worst hands in the NBA.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
I don’t think he is anywhere near as slow as people say, and I see him make a lot more tackles than he misses.
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True. He obviously is fast for his size. He ran a 4.6 40. He just chooses to be slow all too often.
And PFF did say he is almost a sure tackler when he gets hands on the ball carrier. He has very few whiffs.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
I cant wait for this kid to get on the field
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We know, yes.
You post it about 30 times a day.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
id second that dmac….
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 am
194.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
why dont you want pryor to succeed here?
I have an idea, i am seeing a pattern where your qb take is concerned.
…….not surprising
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And what would that be?
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you are a palmer worshipper at the least, at the worst …you can fill in the blank.
You are so afraid that pryor may challenge palmer that you want him gone.
Lol just like rockerfeller you believe “competition is a sin”
why dont you want him to succeed here dakota?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:22 am
I don’t know if its even fair to Pryor as pitiful as this teams playing right now to throw him out there….the same as I don’t feel it’s fair to Palmer……
Hope Pryor does well…. Just wish the team was better for whoever the Qb is… It’s like throwing them to the Sharks
November 30th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Hue should have played weekend at bernies with als carcass for a few months…
November 30th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:20 am
That dude Farid from the Nuggets is a straight beast! I hate that mutha fka, but would luv to have him on my team.
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He can’t catch though!!!
Constantly fkn off great passes and losing rebounds and stuff.
110% effort, great defender, but worst hands in the NBA.
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That should come w/ time. See DHB. lol
I luv the energy this dude bring s to the court. Great rebounder and not afraid to throw his body around in there. He’s only a 2nd year player and will get better.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:22 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:19 am
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
$$$$$$$$$$
Puff puff pass
November 30th, 2012 at 10:24 am
I’ve watched the Bengal game twice….. The Oline was gawd awful …
November 30th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Faried will lead the NBA in rebounds in some years.
The “Manimal” lol.
I get the Altitude station in ABQ, so I get most of the Nuggets games. Fans love him and is a great defender.
But just don’t throw him a passs on the break, he won’t catch it.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:24 am
you are a palmer worshipper at the least, at the worst …you can fill in the blank.
You are so afraid that pryor may challenge palmer that you want him gone.
Lol just like rockerfeller you believe “competition is a sin”
why dont you want him to succeed here dakota?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You noticed that too?
He hates Buckeyes. He likes drunk little Irishmen.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Well guys…if you guys are gonig to the game, have fun and stay dry…lol! I will be here at work trying to follow it on somewhere!
Other than that…have a nice weekend and see you on Thursday Night!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Wow Dakota,now you have Alzheimers.You know whats up and the year that Adrian Peterson was coming out of Oklahoma.We had the #7 selection and you wanted nothing to do with Adrian Peterson.I wanted him bad to be a Raider.Think hard—–are we clear yet.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
The “maninmal” is what they call him?
lol
Or you just made that schit up right now?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Peace out Hwnrdr
November 30th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Lol just like rockerfeller you believe “competition is a sin”
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LMAO!!!!!
Are you going to finish the quote, or cut it off and make one of the greatest businessman of our country out to be a socialist?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:26 am
That’s what they call him.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Raider(since 1967)
★★★★★★★
YOU KNOW– Back in the ROMAN time Just the smallest thing you did, a slip of the tongue had you CRUCIFY!
ROMANS had a way to deel with such insolences, had very little patience and when things like this occur.they will not put up with it. They would rise up and talk for their leaders,EMPERORS,
CESAR, by doing this the ROMAN EMPIRE show Strengh and Dicipline. NO ONE Dare to go against them,and they prove this
By lining the outside walls and roads full of crucifictions.
If this insidence had occur back then ROLANDO will be talking to the birds pecking his face out!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:28 am
“Competition is a sin, therefore you must destroy it”
That is the quote, basically saying you must beat the daylights out of everyone so they don’t bother competing.
SMH
November 30th, 2012 at 10:31 am
234.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 am
194.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
why dont you want pryor to succeed here?
I have an idea, i am seeing a pattern where your qb take is concerned.
…….not surprising
+++++++++
And what would that be?
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you are a palmer worshipper at the least, at the worst …you can fill in the blank.
You are so afraid that pryor may challenge palmer that you want him gone.
Lol just like rockerfeller you believe “competition is a sin”
why dont you want him to succeed here dakota?
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Oh, I see, so now you are insinuating I am a racist because I do not believe Pryor has a chance to be a good NFL QB?
Shame on you.
Strange, since on draft day a couple of years ago I wanted the Raiders to get kaepernick….and I defended Jason Cambell over Bruce Garbagekowski (even though I pointed out Campbell acted like a girly man even with a bad QB like the Garbage man behind him)….and I must have been a racist for defending Russell after his first year….that might make me something else, but certainly not a racist.
Oh, and I advocated for Hue over Tom Cable….that must have really demonstrated my racism too!
Listen fuktard, just go back to making your race-based delirious QB comments and let the rest of us just sit back and laugh at you like usual.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I have an idea, i am seeing a pattern where your qb take is concerned.
…….not surprising
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Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
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Still trying to figure out which of these is my favorite.
After Space Age Offense, that is.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Dam, Dakota. You took the bait.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am
The notion that Palmer is what is holding this team back is about as dumb as it gets.
Palmer is running the 8th best passing offense in the league and that’s with some questionable receivers, a line that holds for all of five seconds, Knapp calling the plays, and a pretty shi££y running game.
The two biggest problems are the offensive and defensive lines.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am
“One of the Greatest businessman”
The guy who destroyed lives, treated employees like garbage, and did everything he can to get his way regardless of the damage it caused others.
Yeah, he was one of the greatest.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Dakota seriously hated the Cabes.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:28 am
“Competition is a sin, therefore you must destroy it”
That is the quote, basically saying you must beat the daylights out of everyone so they don’t bother competing.
SMH
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no it means to eliminate the competition, not simply beat the competition.
Which is why the rockerfeller family is involved in several monopolies world wide.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Now some of you want Alex Smith as our QB? With this defense? Get down by 10 and the game would be over. smh
November 30th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Where the fk is my brother ODB?!!!
Got damn union break again?!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Yeah, he was one of the greatest.
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Don’t be a ninny.
First billionaire in the US. That’s the scoreboard.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Don’t see anything on the Bay Area sports network about McKenzies presser….except Raider report at 7 pm
November 30th, 2012 at 10:34 am
244.bank-bank Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Wow Dakota,now you have Alzheimers.You know whats up and the year that Adrian Peterson was coming out of Oklahoma.We had the #7 selection and you wanted nothing to do with Adrian Peterson.I wanted him bad to be a Raider.Think hard—–are we clear yet.
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WTF dude? AP came out the year we took Russell with the #1 pick. Your mother drop you on your head?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:35 am
It’s all about money. That’s great business?
Tell us Chico, what happened to him and his company, or did they forget to teach you that at Chico.
LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I’d like to see Pryor in real game action but wouldn’t it be in his and the team’s best interest to get a better supporting cast around him first? How about some blocking? Receivers that can be counted on to run the right routes and catch what’s thrown to them & fight for the ball? A defense that can keep us in games?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:36 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
The notion that Palmer is what is holding this team back is about as dumb as it gets.
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To me, it has nothing to do with Palmer. He’s a known quantity. Now the season is lost. They have had Pryor for over a year. He has yet to throw a regular season pass. Might as well get him in there and figure out if he’s a keeper.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Poprox13 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Now some of you want Alex Smith as our QB? With this defense? Get down by 10 and the game would be over. smh
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Another ‘game manager’? No thanks! Pass.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am
The Big Banana Says:
I’d like to see Pryor in real game action but wouldn’t it be in his and the team’s best interest to get a better supporting cast around him first?
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If he were strictly a pocket passer, I would agree with you. But the kid has legs. If he has to rely on that until those other pieces get in place, why not give him a shot?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Big banana ….that would be my thought as well…. Hard to expect a QB to function behind that line…. WRs that don’t know where they’re going ect ect
November 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Those numbers are garbage. TP had FOUR solid plays against Detroit. He did nothing in the other 3 games. Nothing.
115 of his 251 passing yards came on two passes to Criner accounting for both his passing TD’s. Pryor himself said they were both crappy passes that Criner bailed him out on.
76 of his 121 yards rushing came on 2 scrambles and accounted for his only rushing TD.
4 plays dude. Eliminate those 4 plays and his stats look like this
17-30 56.6 cmp% 136 yards 1 INT
12 carries for 45 yards 3.75ypc 0 TDs
He was also sacked 5 times and fumbled twice. Take away the 2 TDs to Criner and his rating is below 70 for the time he was in.
Those numbers look awfully pedestrian, especially considering they weren’t against starting calibur defenses.
I said yesterday that I like the kid and hope he succeeds, but your take on him is simply not accurate. If you are going to judge him on 4 plays and 4 plays only then you are setting yourself up for a MAJOR disappointment.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 am
The Sherman Antitrust Act dissolved into like 25 great companies, like Exxon and others, creating thousands of millionaires across the country.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Raider(since1967)
★★★★★★★
Some people say forgive them please!
BUT you know what, we are tire and fed up with this kind of stuff.
We need to get tough and put our BRASS KNUCKLES!
Put our pants and tighten our belts, and show STRENGH,
November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I feel the same way about Alex that I do about Jason. Average QB that can be counted on when things are going well around them. Make for a nice backup,
November 30th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Free TP!
Free Taiwan!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:19 am
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
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HC – D.Allen
OC – N.Turner
DC – M.Kiffin
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 am
All the big Oil companies today, came from Standard Oil.
I think they are still doing OK, just a hunch.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Free TP!
Free Taiwan!
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*Fumble*
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Presser?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am
2013 Draft:
Dion Jordan
Corey Lemonier
Kyle Long
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am
What the fk do we have to lose? At least we can see if they have anything to offer. If not, get rid of them.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Him and JP Morgan are not great IMO. Henry Ford was great.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
RaidingTexas Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am
The Big Banana Says:
I’d like to see Pryor in real game action but wouldn’t it be in his and the team’s best interest to get a better supporting cast around him first?
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If he were strictly a pocket passer, I would agree with you. But the kid has legs. If he has to rely on that until those other pieces get in place, why not give him a shot?
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That’s a valid point, Tex. I’m not against playing him, I just want to see the kid succeed and be the QB we need him to be. Love his mental makeup and I think he could handle a little failure without getting too rattled. At the same time, he has high expectations and wouldn’t want him to get too low on himself if things start off rocky.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
In all seriousness though, Norv Turner would be a beastly hire as OC..
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
243.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
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Thats the pot calling the kettle black… your anti-palmer rhetoric infests this place daily, and you cant WAIT to get in here every Monday to distort the facts about how he played… yet we have an agenda.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Henry Ford was as well, much more innovative.
Standard Oil was the greatest investement ever. It’s dividend rate was like 50% a year or something, lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Some of you monkeys are such hall monitors… the teachers always right… papa smurf always says… smh
November 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
In all seriousness though, Norv Turner would be a beastly hire as OC..
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Norv gets the job done as an OC!
Real talk
November 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am
What the fk do we have to lose? At least we can see if they have anything to offer. If not, get rid of them.
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I totally agree.
TP6 needs to play.
Taiwan not so much. Cant justify him taking any snaps away from DMC/Reece/Goodson.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Big banana ….that would be my thought as well…. Hard to expect a QB to function behind that line…. WRs that don’t know where they’re going ect ect
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And even if his legs can get him out of trouble, he’s gonna have to throw it and the inconsistency at WR is troubling.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
In all seriousness though, Norv Turner would be a beastly hire as OC..
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Norv gets the job done as an OC!
Real talk
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And to stir the pot a little more..
Alex Smith did look very good when Norv was his OC…
Just saying.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Taiwan not so much. Cant justify him taking any snaps away from DMC/Reece/Goodson.
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So why is he still on the team???
DA and company did turn him into a great special teamer.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
In all seriousness though, Norv Turner would be a beastly hire as OC..
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If Jason Garrett gets the boot in Dallas, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Norval return there as an OC. Maybe under Sean Payton?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
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Hey.
That is a legit scenario. Why not?..
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
In all seriousness though, Norv Turner would be a beastly hire as OC..
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
He’d be a damn sight better than Knapp.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
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Thats what I said a few weeks ago.
HAs speed and can make the open field tackle.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:48 am
RaidingTexas Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
In all seriousness though, Norv Turner would be a beastly hire as OC..
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If Jason Garrett gets the boot in Dallas, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Norval return there as an OC. Maybe under Sean Payton?
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Payton isnt going anywhere.
I could see Norv going wherever Alex Smith ends up though.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
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Thats what I said a few weeks ago.
HAs speed and can make the open field tackle.
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Well to be fair, speed & tackling are no where near as important as actually being able to cover LOL..
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I think Henry Ford who paid his employees well, and changed production is a better business man.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
If Harbaugh couldn’t save Smith, I don’t know who the fk can?
I pass!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I can’t claim the idea of Taiwan at DB.
Someone was posting that they saw him play it at Eastern Washington as a freshmen or something like that.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
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Thats what I said a few weeks ago.
HAs speed and can make the open field tackle.
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Well to be fair, speed & tackling are no where near as important as actually being able to cover LOL..
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You know he’s played some DB before right?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
If Harbaugh couldn’t save Smith, I don’t know who the fk can?
I pass!
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Hmm?
Smith has been a very good QB under Harbaugh, was under Norv too.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:51 am
There is no harm in letting Pryor play. None. The season was over a loooooooong time ago. Find out what we have, if anything, and then you know if the kid is even worthy of being the backup next year.
Taiwan…..he was about the only highlight player I saw when I was at the Broncos game…..dude can tackle on special teams lol.
No harm letting him play a little bit either. See if he can hold onto the ball and make some plays.
If Dennis Allen and Reggie are too short-sighted to make basic moves like that, at this point in the season, then they may not be the right men for the job.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:52 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
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Thats what I said a few weeks ago.
HAs speed and can make the open field tackle.
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Well to be fair, speed & tackling are no where near as important as actually being able to cover LOL..
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You know he’s played some DB before right?
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Yea, but covering guys at Eastern Washington doesnt really count.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Henry Ford was as well, much more innovative.
Standard Oil was the greatest investement ever. It’s dividend rate was like 50% a year or something, lol.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
There is a reason for that. They didn’t pay their employees fair wages, they destroyed other businesses (illegally) which increased their marker share, etc…..
November 30th, 2012 at 10:52 am
I think Henry Ford who paid his employees well, and changed production is a better business man.
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My firm was created originally from a grant secured by the Ford foundation, lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
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Now that’s the ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Taiwan needs to play some nickle DB.
Dude can tackle on those punt returns.
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Hey.
That is a legit scenario. Why not?..
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Maybe because he’s never played Defense in his life?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 am
They didn’t pay their employees fair wages,
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They paid some of them stock options, which were far more valuable than the peanuts they could get working anywhere.
Dude it was 1890. That’s the way it was. I don’t believe OSHA existed, lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
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Now that’s the ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black.
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lol, so true
November 30th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Maybe because he’s never played Defense in his life?
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Bellicheck seems to have no issue getting former QB’s to play WR’s, WR’s play DB, etc.
Besides I believe Taiwan played some at college.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
If Harbaugh couldn’t save Smith, I don’t know who the fk can?
I pass!
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Hmm?
Smith has been a very good QB under Harbaugh, was under Norv too.
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If he’s a good QB, than why was he replaced mid season by a guy who barely saw the field for the 1st time this season?
Harbaugh knows Smith is not the answer, even w/ their vanilla offense.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
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Now that’s the ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black.
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LMFAO!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Maybe because he’s never played Defense in his life?
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Bellicheck seems to have no issue getting former QB’s to play WR’s, WR’s play DB, etc.
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Like who?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Jones started four games at CB in college, Kool Kell.
A little google search before you start assuming facts, PLEASE
November 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
What ever happen to DJ Williams? didn’t he have a few DUI’s?
Wouldn’t mind bringing him back to the Bay to play MLB. I remember attending the Skyine-De La Salle game and he ran all over the Titans. Thats when he was a RB.
He has great speed and can tackle.
I would roll the dice on him if available.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Like who?
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Troy Brown moved from WR to DB, even played both ways for a Super Bowl team. Forced the fumble that saved the game against the Dolts in the playoffs one year.
Julian Edelman was a collegiate QB. Played nickle DB in the Super Bowl last year, returns punts and plays WR now.
Also got Vrabel to play FB.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:01 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
If Harbaugh couldn’t save Smith, I don’t know who the fk can?
I pass!
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Hmm?
Smith has been a very good QB under Harbaugh, was under Norv too.
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If he’s a good QB, than why was he replaced mid season by a guy who barely saw the field for the 1st time this season?
Harbaugh knows Smith is not the answer, even w/ their vanilla offense.
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Because to quote Reggie McKenzie.. Harbaugh wanted “his guy”..
2011 – 61% / 3144 yds / 17 TDs / 5 INTs / 90.7 rtg
2012 – 70% / 1731 yds / 13 TDs / 5 INTs / 104.1 rtg
Alex Smith proved he can play.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I believe this will be the weekend that DMAC shows us a glimpse of his former skills. His dawgs have plenty of rest and Reese/Stewart are in his head.
Can I get a heck yes or a I wish?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Hmmm no response from Mistic regarding the truth behind TPs stats…
No surprise really.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Like who?
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Troy Brown moved from WR to DB, even played both ways for a Super Bowl team. Forced the fumble that saved the game against the Dolts in the playoffs one year.
Julian Edelman was a collegiate QB. Played nickle DB in the Super Bowl last year, returns punts and plays WR now.
Also got Vrabel to play FB.
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Alrighty then.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:01 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
If Harbaugh couldn’t save Smith, I don’t know who the fk can?
I pass!
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Hmm?
Smith has been a very good QB under Harbaugh, was under Norv too.
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If he’s a good QB, than why was he replaced mid season by a guy who barely saw the field for the 1st time this season?
Harbaugh knows Smith is not the answer, even w/ their vanilla offense.
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Because to quote Reggie McKenzie.. Harbaugh wanted “his guy”..
2011 – 61% / 3144 yds / 17 TDs / 5 INTs / 90.7 rtg
2012 – 70% / 1731 yds / 13 TDs / 5 INTs / 104.1 rtg
Alex Smith proved he can play.
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Thats under Harbaugh. The guy who kind of saved his career. Lets go back and see the #’s w/ other coaches.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:07 am
The Big Banana Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I’d like to see Pryor in real game action but wouldn’t it be in his and the team’s best interest to get a better supporting cast around him first?
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No must high draft picks come into bad situations and bad teams.
No one said wait until there is a better team around luck or griffin or wilson or gabbert or weeden.
We dont have the luxury of time and being able to wait before we see what he can do.
he proved that in the pre season even playing with scrubs and no protection his ability could rise above the level of those around him.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:07 am
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Norv gets the job done as an OC!
Real talk
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But doesn’t he “F”ing hate the Raiders?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I believe this will be the weekend that DMAC shows us a glimpse of his former skills. His dawgs have plenty of rest and Reese/Stewart are in his head.
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If we run some power plays, yes.
If we stick to the zone, no. (Reece is much better)
November 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:07 am
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Norv gets the job done as an OC!
Real talk
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But doesn’t he “F”ing hate the Raiders?
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Not sure about that 1
November 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
he proved that in the pre season even playing with scrubs and no protection his ability could rise above the level of those around him.
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For 4 plays. The rest of the time he was out there he was mediocre at best.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
You dont think Alex Smith will be motivated more than ever to stick it to Harbaugh??..
Thats easy money right there player.
Sign Smith, Hire Norv.
Draft Jordan, Lemonier, Long…
November 30th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Kaepernick looked like crap in the pre-season too.
Pryor needs to play, period.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
You dont think Alex Smith will be motivated more than ever to stick it to Harbaugh??..
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Yes, with out a doubt, but I don’t think he has what it takes.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
You dont think Alex Smith will be motivated more than ever to stick it to Harbaugh??..
Thats easy money right there player.
Sign Smith, Hire Norv.
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Hell no, please God!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Duece,
Alex Smith coming to the Raiders would be like McJogger going the Donkies and saying he would be motivated to kick DA and the Raiders ass twice in a season.
Not happening
They both suck!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:13 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Those numbers are garbage. TP had FOUR solid plays against Detroit. He did nothing in the other 3 games. Nothing.
115 of his 251 passing yards came on two passes to Criner accounting for both his passing TD’s. Pryor himself said they were both crappy passes that Criner bailed him out on.
76 of his 121 yards rushing came on 2 scrambles and accounted for his only rushing TD.
4 plays dude. Eliminate those 4 plays and his stats look like this
17-30 56.6 cmp% 136 yards 1 INT
12 carries for 45 yards 3.75ypc 0 TDs
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first why do you want to “Take plays away”?
he actually made them and they count, they are a part of the total body of work which is how proper evaluation should be done.
Even if you did “take those plays away” the remaining effort is still solid for a rookie qb seeing the field for the first time.
lastly those plays you want to wipe off the board as if they didint happen only strengthen the reason for him to play. they prove that he is explosive and can make chunk yardage plays and score in in bunches.
Isnt our offense having trouble manufacturing explosive plays?
isnt that what makes teams like the redskins offense and the saints offense good, the ability to be explosive and score suddenly?
dont hate
November 30th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.=============================================
This is a fake mistic, right?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hope your reading this Hue.
Come back to the Bay and coach my Cal Bears!!!!!!!!!!
Who has Huey’s email?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:15 am
KoolKell Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Like who?
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Troy Brown moved from WR to DB, even played both ways for a Super Bowl team. Forced the fumble that saved the game against the Dolts in the playoffs one year.
Julian Edelman was a collegiate QB. Played nickle DB in the Super Bowl last year, returns punts and plays WR now.
Also got Vrabel to play FB.
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Alrighty then.
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Do you even watch football?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:31 am
234.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 am
194.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
why dont you want pryor to succeed here?
I have an idea, i am seeing a pattern where your qb take is concerned.
…….not surprising
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And what would that be?
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you are a palmer worshipper at the least, at the worst …you can fill in the blank.
You are so afraid that pryor may challenge palmer that you want him gone.
Lol just like rockerfeller you believe “competition is a sin”
why dont you want him to succeed here dakota?
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Oh, I see, so now you are insinuating I am a racist because I do not believe Pryor has a chance to be a good NFL QB?
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no
If i felt that i would just call you that like i have others
i asked you why you dont want him to succeed, you answered my question with a questioning me.
please answer why you dont want pryor to succeed.
Besides no matter how many black players you root for that does not mean you are not racist
lol
November 30th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Alex Smith looks decent on paper, just like Jason Campbell did….until you Watch them play and realize they cannot get the wrs involved beyond 10 yards down the field.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Duece,
Alex Smith coming to the Raiders would be like McJogger going the Donkies and saying he would be motivated to kick DA and the Raiders ass twice in a season.
Not happening
They both suck!
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The numbers dont agree with that statement.
Alex proved he can play.
That bootleg scramble for a TD vs the Saints in last years playoffs blew any negative that can be said out of the water.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Mistic1,
Stfu moron.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am
243.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
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Thats the pot calling the kettle black… your anti-palmer rhetoric infests this place daily, and you cant WAIT to get in here every Monday to distort the facts about how he played… yet we have an agenda.
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posting his numbers is not distorting the facts lol
the numbers ARE THE FACTS!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Alex Smith looks decent on paper, just like Jason Campbell did….until you Watch them play and realize they cannot get the wrs involved beyond 10 yards down the field.
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Jason Campbell never looked good on paper LOL..
But I hear your point on Smith.
5 INTs sure sounds better than 20 though..
November 30th, 2012 at 11:20 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Duece,
Alex Smith coming to the Raiders would be like McJogger going the Donkies and saying he would be motivated to kick DA and the Raiders ass twice in a season.
Not happening
They both suck!
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The numbers dont agree with that statement.
Alex proved he can play.
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So did Campbell last year, before getting hurt.
He still sucks.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Why I am not shocked that RoBozo McClown gets a paycut with that big dose of “this is how real gangstas operate”
November 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Hey Cork … It’s 11:21…how bout a heads up on the pressers time,,?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Pryor will see action Sunday acoording to Monte Poole..
November 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Mistic1,
Stfu moron.
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you are supposed to be a raider fan, but you dont want pryor to succeed here…why?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
KoolKell Says:
DennisAllensVisor Says:
Sign Smith, Hire Norv.
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Hell no, please God!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
raiderjhawk Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Anyone know what time the presser is? hopefully Knapp get canned today… to bad DA doesn’t know squat about Offense, which is pry the only reason Knapp still has a job.
mark my words, If Knapp is back next year… I’m done.
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If they hire Lance Kiffin as OC I’ll still be back. Coaches and players come and go but I am a Raider fan for life.
Go Raiders!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Hey Cork … It’s 11:21…how bout a heads up on the pressers time,,?
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Corkys having breakfast w/ Knappy right now. Check back again later.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:20 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Duece,
Alex Smith coming to the Raiders would be like McJogger going the Donkies and saying he would be motivated to kick DA and the Raiders ass twice in a season.
Not happening
They both suck!
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The numbers dont agree with that statement.
Alex proved he can play.
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So did Campbell last year, before getting hurt.
He still sucks.
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Proved can play… but still sucks..
LOL.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Pryor will see action Sunday acoording to Monte Poole..
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Hope so
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Norv doesnt run a wco.. next topic
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Looked at McDuds arrest picture again last night….the guy is a clown
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Go raiders
FREE TP6!!!!!!!!
PEACE
November 30th, 2012 at 11:24 am
It is time for TP to see some game action. Palmer can suck his thumb for a week and heal up. Change the tempo in a rain game. Can’t hurt. What they’re doing a’int working
November 30th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Proved can play… but still sucks..
LOL.
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Your ever heard of product of a system?????
November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am
RaidingTexas Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
KoolKell Says:
DennisAllensVisor Says:
Sign Smith, Hire Norv.
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Hell no, please God!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
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Yep. Lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Norv doesnt run a wco.. next topic
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FK the wco
Bring Norv
November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am
A team like SF is the ONLY place where a guy like Alex Smith can succeed, but they recognize that it is unlikely that a guy like him can win them the big game, so they are rolling the dice.
I love the move by Jim harbaugh.
Alex Smith on a team like the raiders would be a complete disaster.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:26 am
first why do you want to “Take plays away”?
he actually made them and they count, they are a part of the total body of work which is how proper evaluation should be done.
Even if you did “take those plays away” the remaining effort is still solid for a rookie qb seeing the field for the first time.
lastly those plays you want to wipe off the board as if they didint happen only strengthen the reason for him to play. they prove that he is explosive and can make chunk yardage plays and score in in bunches.
Isnt our offense having trouble manufacturing explosive plays?
isnt that what makes teams like the redskins offense and the saints offense good, the ability to be explosive and score suddenly?
dont hate
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Hey you wont count Palmers games when he has 400 yards and 4 tds (SD last season). You tell half truths about him all the time.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:26 am
edward teach Says:
Still trying to figure out which of these is my favorite.
After Space Age Offense, that is.======================
Actually, it was Space-Aged Offense. From a player with other worldly abilities who’s not on the same planet as the Lucks and Palmers of the world. I’m starting to sense a Mother Ship here.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am
A team like SF is the ONLY place where a guy like Alex Smith can succeed, but they recognize that it is unlikely that a guy like him can win them the big game, so they are rolling the dice.
I love the move by Jim harbaugh.
Alex Smith on a team like the raiders would be a complete disaster.
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Yes sir
I agree
November 30th, 2012 at 11:28 am
fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Hey Cork … It’s 11:21…how bout a heads up on the pressers time,,?
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The presser is schedule for after the teams practice. There won’t be a post about it here until after 7pm eastern at the earliest.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:29 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:26 am
first why do you want to “Take plays away”?
he actually made them and they count, they are a part of the total body of work which is how proper evaluation should be done.
Even if you did “take those plays away” the remaining effort is still solid for a rookie qb seeing the field for the first time.
lastly those plays you want to wipe off the board as if they didint happen only strengthen the reason for him to play. they prove that he is explosive and can make chunk yardage plays and score in in bunches.
Isnt our offense having trouble manufacturing explosive plays?
isnt that what makes teams like the redskins offense and the saints offense good, the ability to be explosive and score suddenly?
dont hate
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Hey you wont count Palmers games when he has 400 yards and 4 tds (SD last season). You tell half truths about him all the time.
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that is a lie
his total body of work as a raider
7-14 35 turnovers
lol that includes the loss to detroit
November 30th, 2012 at 11:31 am
If we can someone turn the O-line around next season like it was in 11′ and bring him in at a cheaper price than CP3, than I would probably consider him, but thats not happening.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I would expect the presser this afternoon after practice.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I read 1:00 for the presser but….who really knows?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Presser is supposed to take place after practice today.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Kell
Haven’t spoken to your dumbass in a min.
How you doing?
lol
Before you go on a rampage of insults, I want to tell you I’m just fking w/ u.
No beef remember, just having a good laugh and enjoying the down pour.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Alex Smith may be better in the WCO than Palmer, but I feel like it wouldn’t be much of an upgrade. I’d rather see Pryor play than Smith. Smith would be awful with a poor offensive line and defense.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Krappy, you been able to get any sleep this week in anticipation of this earth shattering presser?
Old Troll, you started soiling your bermuda shorts on monday in excitement over a press conference for a 3-8 team
Man you need a hobby like nobody’s business
Just keeping it real
November 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I said it before the season began, that our best bet was to have a very strong running game, an improved defense, and not depend on Palmer taking us up and down the field every drive. We needed a qb who could put points on the board if need be.
Unfortunately Greg knapp was hired, the o-line was destroyed, and they managed to make the defense worse!
Palmer can still succeed here, but it needs to follow that equation. I doubt da can make it happen though.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I’m sure CSN will stream presser live
November 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Great. Pryor, based on his entire body of work with the Raiders, will win 25% of his games, and average 1 TD pass ever 2 games and 1 rushing TD every 4 games. His stat line for the year, based on his total body of work so far will be something to the tune of
4-12 record 76-128 passing for 1000 yards 8tds and 4ints, with 56 carries for 484 yards 4 Tds
Can’t wait.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
what time is the presser?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:38 am
DMAC !! O !!
whats up Mr.. Prez and Mr..Vice Prez ???
busy as a two peckerd billy goat at a sheep ranch !!
gotta love it when the weather gets a little cold and rainy around here. lol lol its crach up derby time !!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:39 am
The season is already over.
Its time to see who can play football and who’s the fugazzi’s.
DA and Reggie needs to start evaluating players now for next year.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:39 am
“Carson Palmer is on the field passing, looks good to go for Sunday”
Wait for it… you hear that sound? That was Mistic tuning up his anti-Palmer drum for next week
November 30th, 2012 at 11:40 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:39 am
The season is already over.
Its time to see who can play football and who’s the fugazzi’s.
DA and Reggie needs to start evaluating players now for next year.
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With Lienart taking all the practice snaps yesterday….Makes me skeptical of that.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:38 am
DMAC !! O !!
whats up Mr.. Prez and Mr..Vice Prez ???
busy as a two peckerd billy goat at a sheep ranch !!
gotta love it when the weather gets a little cold and rainy around here. lol lol its crach up derby time !!
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Just fire up a fatty and play……
“Raindrops keep fallin’ on my head”
November 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
4 Raiders and Whitworth of the bengals were all fined $26,250 for the fight on Sunday
November 30th, 2012 at 11:42 am
You all are going to get your wish Sunday
Monte Poole is reporting from 2 sources close to the team that Pryor WILL see action Sunday
November 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am
371.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Alex Smith may be better in the WCO than Palmer, but I feel like it wouldn’t be much of an upgrade. I’d rather see Pryor play than Smith. Smith would be awful with a poor offensive line and defense.
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Wrong… Smith would be better for us right now BECAUSE we have a poor offensive line. Palmer, who I like, cannot escape the rush as well as Smith can which is why he either gets sacked or throw picks.
The last good QB we had was Gannon obviously and he was so good for us because he was the last guy who could throw and move the chains with his feet.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
4 Raiders and Whitworth of the bengals were all fined $26,250 for the fight on Sunday
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So it cost Bryant aprox. $4000 a body blow?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:44 am
With Lienart taking all the practice snaps yesterday….Makes me skeptical of that.
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They HAVE been playing the young guys! Do you guys even watch the games? The ONLY young guy not getting snaps is TP, and that is changing Sunday. Taiwan Jones gets special teams snaps, but has done NOTHING to displace Reece/Stewart in the backfield. Who else aren’t they playing?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:45 am
So it cost Bryant aprox. $4000 a body blow?
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Those were some pvssy ass body blows too…
November 30th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Taiwan Jones gets special teams snaps, but has done NOTHING to displace Reece/Stewart in the backfield. Who else aren’t they playing?
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Hasn’t had a chance to.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Pryor finally getting action Sunday…awesome…the usual guy that runs and gets the football tee after kickoffs was just made inactive. Word.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:46 am
For those who dont believe coaching is just as important as the players just look at the Saints, Full of talent yet cant get it done without their coach.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:42 am
You all are going to get your wish Sunday
Monte Poole is reporting from 2 sources close to the team that Pryor WILL see action Sunday
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Well I’m ready to see it. It sucks that I’ve reached that point already, where I’m looking forward to the draft, and want to see what our youngin’s got…… 5 damn weeks left and I’ve scrapped this year.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:38 am
DMAC !! O !!
whats up Mr.. Prez and Mr..Vice Prez ???
busy as a two peckerd billy goat at a sheep ranch !!
gotta love it when the weather gets a little cold and rainy around here. lol lol its crach up derby time !!
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Long Live The ODB!
LOL
I’m calling Wildlife rescue and PETA. No more DBC (death by Camry). Protect the Ecosystem.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Kell has spent as long as I have been a member of this blog railing against Al Davis and his personal moves… but Taiwan Jones, the shining example of an Al Davis track star, doesn’t get carries and he is upset about it.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Bcz24 Says:
The ONLY young guy not getting snaps is TP
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I’ve only seen Crawford out there for 3-4 snaps this season. Wonder when he’ll get some serious playing time.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:48 am
The HoF semi-finalists have been released, and four Raiders have made the cut:
Tim Brown
Roger Craig
Albert Lewis
Warren Sapp
No Ray Guy or Cliff Branch.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am
I’ve only seen Crawford out there for 3-4 snaps this season. Wonder when he’ll get some serious playing time.
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He has been injured. Isn’t even practicing.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am
They HAVE been playing the young guys! Do you guys even watch the games? The ONLY young guy not getting snaps is TP, and that is changing Sunday. Taiwan Jones gets special teams snaps, but has done NOTHING to displace Reece/Stewart in the backfield. Who else aren’t they playing?
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Well they JUST got Criner started….Which seems to be a good move. Took forever for Bergstrom to get in there. And having a Play or two, or a series here and there isn’t what I’m talking about. PUT a guy in a position, and let him play the game. Reece has been playing damn good ball at HB so I can’t complain, but Taiwan got like 2-3 handoffs……You can’t tell jack squat from that.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am
There is only one raider on that list.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am
ONLY 1 “RAIDER” THERE…#81
November 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am
The losers who were complaining about Al Davis were frauds,…they just need to complain,..now they are complaining that the dudes Al picked, Pryor and Jones, dont get playing time. Losers like those people will always find things to complain about, being miserable is all they want, and know.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Kell has spent as long as I have been a member of this blog railing against Al Davis and his personal moves
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That’s a lie. I assume you meant personnel moves. That a damned lie. Speak for yourself.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Roger Craig is not a Raider, and neither is Sapp.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Oh, really? You havent spent the last umpteen years complaining about Al the GM, what’s his record for the Super Bowl to the day he died?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:55 am
MCClain is not worth the headache. I hope Coach Allen get all the support he needs on this one.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:57 am
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Great. Pryor, based on his entire body of work with the Raiders, will win 25% of his games, and average 1 TD pass ever 2 games and 1 rushing TD every 4 games. His stat line for the year, based on his total body of work so far will be something to the tune of
4-12 record 76-128 passing for 1000 yards 8tds and 4ints, with 56 carries for 484 yards 4 Tds
Can’t wait.
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we already know where you are coming form with this, but it is ridiculous none the less
this is blind speculation not a true projection which would also be nothing more than speculation.
You are making clear you don think he can improve over what he did in his first nfl action in pre season ?!?!
you are not impressed by what he did even though it was his first time n an nfl field?
lol good thing he is getting a more fair look than that. i disagree with both of your takes for the record.
i was impressed,and i do think he will get even better.
why the double standard though?
So ANY OTHER ROOKIE QB IS EXPECTED TO IMPROVE BUT NOT PRYOR?
BCZ your a hater
November 30th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Oh, really? You havent spent the last umpteen years complaining about Al the GM,
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Now that is true. Because he had a losing record for the last 25 years, not his personnel moves, per se. It was a lot of different things. The main thing was he wasn’t winning.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
McClain running to Facebook and saying he’s done = b;tchmade, no class.
McClain then removing posts from Facebook = b;tchmade squared.
Your 1 TFL, 6 times getting blown out of the play by a FB or guard, and 10 missed gap assignments per game will not be missed.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Alex Smith here? LOL. Please no.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
4 Raiders and Whitworth of the bengals were all fined $26,250 for the fight on Sunday
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I liked Whitworths comment that the Raiders were looking for a fight, because they certainly didn’t want to fight on the football field. This is all a step in the right direction. And getting rid of the POS #55 is the lst step in the right direction.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Now that is true. Because he had a losing record for the last 25 years, not his personnel moves, per se. It was a lot of different things. The main thing was he wasn’t winning.
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So his personnel moves didn’t DIRECTLY influence the product on the field?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am
There is only one raider on that list.
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Exactly. Too bad he went to ND.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Man, I’d love it if Pryor came in and played like he did against Detroit. But the kid has been in street clothes for the entire season. You know he’s been getting the Scrap reps in practice and running scout team stuff….
As much as I HOPE Pryor can be “Improved”, it’s just not realistic to “Expect” that he will be. I gotta see it man. He’s coming in Cold essentially. So I don’t expect much to be honest with you. I want to be surprised though.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
So his personnel moves didn’t DIRECTLY influence the product on the field?
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Al Davis is dead, if you’re interested in my previous posts about hum go back through the archives.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
But would could Reggie be calling a conference for, what topic. I see only 2 things.
1. a major coaching or staff change. Not DA, but coordinator or some other key operations staff member.
2. To announce the failure/success of the stadium evaluation in Oakland.
Surely there is no conference for a “state of the Raiders” talk or player transaction.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
You are making clear you don think he can improve over what he did in his first nfl action in pre season ?!?!
you are not impressed by what he did even though it was his first time n an nfl field?
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Pryor was not playing against NFL players. Pryor did well playing against guys that right now are home playing vid games, selling insurance, or working on a construction site not starting for the Denver Bronco defense.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
For any of you who need to know ALL the facts of Al Davis, not just recent times, theres practically a wing of all hes done in Canton, Ohio. Iv seen it. There will always be some people who only like to state certain periods of time, so it will fit into their failed argument.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
While you guys fantasize about Alex Smith, Houdini is busy polishing up his magic show.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
But what could Reggie be calling a conference for, what topic?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
So ANY OTHER ROOKIE QB IS EXPECTED TO IMPROVE BUT NOT PRYOR?
BCZ your a hater
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Explain to me how anything I said shows ‘hate’ towards Pryor? I pointed out the FACT that aside from 4 plays, he was mediocre. This is a fact. I hope he succeeds, just like I hope every other guy who puts on the Silver and Black succeeds. We are all here to discuss our opinions. Mine is that Pryor is not an NFL calibur QB.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Dakota Says:
There is only one raider on that list.
Got that right.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
But what could Reggie be calling a conference for, what topic? I see only 2 things.
1. a major coaching or staff change. Not DA, but coordinator or some other key operations staff member.
2. To announce the failure/success of the stadium evaluation in Oakland.
Surely there is no conference for a “state of the Raiders” talk or player transaction.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
The Oracle,..theres no presser today,..today is just a get together with Reggie and sports writers that was scheduled weeks ago,…basically a lunch with them with questions,..no big deal.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Some limited gimmicky package for Pryor isn’t going to cut it. Put prior on the field for an extended time and let him sink or swim. He is not a rookie qb. Quit handling the guy with kid gloves.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Now that is true. Because he had a losing record for the last 25 years, not his personnel moves, per se. It was a lot of different things. The main thing was he wasn’t winning.
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So his personnel moves didn’t DIRECTLY influence the product on the field?
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The problem was coaching. We didn’t develop players, we were undisciplined, etc.., but we didn’t lack talent. Al was also a gambler and some of his moves were crazy. Walker?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Al Davis is dead, if you’re interested in my previous posts about hum go back through the archives.
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60% of this roster was assembled by Al Davis, it is still relevent to the converation.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Coaches are responsible for game planning every week and making in-game adjustments.
Our coaching staff has failed miserably!!
November 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
HC’s
November 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
KrappyRat, do you really think anyone would take to the time to go through the archives to find the moronic ramblings of an out-of-work blog personality?
Not everyone has as much free time on their hands as you do, old nerd.
Most of us have to work to pay them bills, like this weekend for example – I’m taking my reggae party boat our for a dope cruise up and down the Newport coast with a ton of fine shorties
SHRIMP COCKTAILS IN THE HOUSE
November 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
They HAVE been playing the young guys!
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They really have. Criner, Bergstrom, Bilukidi, Stewart, Ross, Gordon, Ausberry have all seen time.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Al Davis is dead, if you’re interested in my previous posts about hum go back through the archives.
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60% of this roster was assembled by Al Davis, it is still relevent to the converation.
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Then you can go converse with some of his bootlickers.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
The Oracle,..theres no presser today,..today is just a get together with Reggie and sports writers that was scheduled weeks ago,…basically a lunch with them with questions,..no big deal.
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Ahh, an elaborate post-game (without the game)talk session….how anti-climactic. Damn.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
You are making clear you don think he can improve over what he did in his first nfl action in pre season ?!?!
you are not impressed by what he did even though it was his first time n an nfl field?
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Pryor was not playing against NFL players. Pryor did well playing against guys that right now are home playing vid games, selling insurance, or working on a construction site not starting for the Denver Bronco defense.
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just like any other young back up qb in preseason.
he clearly showed he could compete with those guys, now he can prove he play with better talent.
wow so many so called fans want pryor to flop
November 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
They really have. Criner, Bergstrom, Bilukidi, Stewart, Ross, Gordon, Ausberry have all seen time.
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When they scream about playing the young guys they only want to see Pryor.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
im out
FREE TP6!!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The Oracle Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Surely there is no conference for a “state of the Raiders” talk or player transaction.
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Why not? McKenzie hasn’t spoken for weeks and weeks. The press will want to know what is happening with a team that is floundering.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
wow so many so called fans want pryor to flop
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Hypocrite. You said Palmer would flop, you remind us of this everyday. When we say you WANT him to fail, you get extremely defensive.
When we don’t think Pryor will be successful, all of the sudden we WANT him to fail?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Norco do not tell Krappy there won’t be a presser
The old goat has been up since Monday, pacing the hallways in his bunny slippers, counting down the seconds until Friday
If he doesn’t get to watch his precious presser, it’ll mean he’ll have no choice but to take another nap
November 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Now do you understand the term impostor fan?
It denotes all those that want certain players and certain agendas executed, even at the expense of team success.
This board is infested with them.
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This from the guy that gets downright giddy when Palmer plays poorly.
Takes one to know one, I guess.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
They really have. Criner, Bergstrom, Bilukidi, Stewart, Ross, Gordon, Ausberry have all seen time.
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When they scream about playing the young guys they only want to see Pryor.
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Exactly. And then Pryor goes out, has a good game, and everyone wants Palmer out of here. So, we end up doing a Randy Moss, shipping Palmer out to the NY Jets for a 7th rounder, teams figure out Pryor and he becomes Cam Newton going 1-10 in his next 11 games before being benched, while Palmer goes to 3 straight Pro Bowls and 2 AFC Championship Games. Oh, and our 7th round pick never makes the team.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Listening to you guys are funny. Most of you are talking in circles.
Dennis Allen is losing because this team has no talent and all the players should be cut. He is only in his first year so he should get a few years to right the ship. He may be a defensive coach but its tarver’s job to coach that unit, Allen is the HC and is overseeing the whole team.
The same guys say:
Hue Jackson was a terrible coach, he couldn’t even get this team to the playoffs with all that talent he had
November 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
TP!
November 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
That old fool doesnt believe anything I say anyway so he paid it no mind,..Im sure hes getting his press pass from Becker now and will be at the presser in his best suit from TJ Maxx…later he will return here and blame Al Davis for the big presser being cancelled.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
while Palmer goes to 3 straight Pro Bowls and 2 AFC Championship Games. Oh, and our 7th round pick never makes the team.
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Lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The Oracle Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Surely there is no conference for a “state of the Raiders” talk or player transaction.
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Why not? McKenzie hasn’t spoken for weeks and weeks. The press will want to know what is happening with a team that is floundering.
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That is just it. It is tribal knowledge the Raiders have floundered.
The internal methods and operational activities used by Reggie’s staff are not for public forum. They have made that clear. So no insight to their strategy will be revealed.
Player changes will soley be waiver/FA addition from here out.
What’s there to talk about beside the 2 topics I mentioned..and maybe ticket sales?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
just like any other young back up qb in preseason.
he clearly showed he could compete with those guys, now he can prove he play with better talent.
wow so many so called fans want pryor to flop
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Uh, no, no and no. In preseason games, normally the starting Q plays a series and then gives way to the backups who play against ones and twos. In Pryors case he came in against scrubs. Now he did prove he could dominate scrubs, but NFL players should dominate glorified high school players. And no, I want Pryor to be successful. I like hard working guys who perform.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Listening to you guys are funny. Most of you are talking in circles.
Dennis Allen is losing because this team has no talent and all the players should be cut. He is only in his first year so he should get a few years to right the ship. He has so much on his plate and is dealing with a rookie GM, give him a break, its a process and it takes time. He may be a defensive coach but its Tarver’s job to coach that unit, Allen is the HC and is overseeing the whole team.
The same guys say:
Hue Jackson was a terrible coach, he couldn’t even get this team to the playoffs with all that talent he had. Why should we have given him another year, he couldn’t get it right his first one? So what if he was dealing with the death of the most important figure in Raiders history and a team obviously affected by it, he is supposed to coach through adversity. He didn’t beat a single good team only the Jets, @ Houston, @ Denver, @ San Diego. His defense sucked and he didn’t get to hire his own DC, but its his job as an offensive minded head coach to take control of that unit and get results. He showed too much passion and fire in that final press conference
November 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Raider (since 1967)
★★★★★★★
CORK PLEASE TELL US THE RAIDERNATION IN YOUR FORUM
WHAT 5 things will you say and write to the RAIDER OWNERSHIP and GM-REGGIE to do to get this team in the PLAYOFFS !
Give us and them a suggestion, 5 things that we must do to get to the Playoffs. We then send it to them and see what happens!
November 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
severeraiderz Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Listening to you guys are funny. Most of you are talking in circles.
Dennis Allen is losing because this team has no talent and all the players should be cut. He is only in his first year so he should get a few years to right the ship. He may be a defensive coach but its tarver’s job to coach that unit, Allen is the HC and is overseeing the whole team.
The same guys say:
Hue Jackson was a terrible coach, he couldn’t even get this team to the playoffs with all that talent he had
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Totally different situation. Hue Jackson took over a team that had momentum, was one late 4th quarter Peyton Manning rally away from winning four of it’s last five, and was believing in itself. Dennis Allen took over a team that was in disarray, was a coin flip away from losing five of it’s last five, and didn’t believe in itself. Thank you Hue Jackson. Those are the facts.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Raider(since1967)
★★★★★★★
November 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
We all get on DA about not giving the ball to Taiwan or Pryor being in street clothes every week but remember this Hue lovers:
Pryor was on the field for (1) offensive snap last year and we were flagged for illegal formation. And we never saw Pryor again. I was at the game. It was the only game last year where all three QBs got a chance to put their knuckles under Satele’s sack.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
4 Raiders and Whitworth of the bengals were all fined $26,250 for the fight on Sunday
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We had people in here saying TK would be suspended 4 games, everyone else 1 or 2.
Newsflash people, Rodger Goodell is the most player friendly Commish in all of sports. You can shoot people and not get suspended. Literally.
You see that NBA “fight” the other night? Rondo got suspended two games for scratching some guy.
Football players got it easy. Unless you are a Hungarian QB, than watch out.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Interesting how people don’t consider Craig, Lewis and Sapp Raiders. All three played for us…
November 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
The Oracle Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The Oracle Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Surely there is no conference for a “state of the Raiders” talk or player transaction.
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Why not? McKenzie hasn’t spoken for weeks and weeks. The press will want to know what is happening with a team that is floundering.
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That is just it. It is tribal knowledge the Raiders have floundered.
The internal methods and operational activities used by Reggie’s staff are not for public forum. They have made that clear. So no insight to their strategy will be revealed.
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That would be a mistake of the press. I would want to know why they kept Curry and waived Pat Lee when they activated Bartell. There are some questionable things they did that need explaining.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Fawq, just let Pryor go out there and prove that he doesn’t belong so Mystic can move on to his next racially motivated QB obsession.
The Jason Campbell stuff got old after a year…..now the Pryor stuff is getting old.
Maybe after Pryor falls on his face, Mystic can switch it up and scream for us to trade for Michael Vick for a few months…..at least it would be a change.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
I wanted to see the young guys before we lost out on the number 1 pick… But you guys just haad to have your victory Monday so happy we got that third win
November 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Mike Vick might be toast.
Out a month with a concussion? Reports are that he can’t even watch film still, gets dizzy and headaches.
Eagles will most assuredly release him, then will any team’s Dr. clear him to play? And they will certainly not offer him much, if any guaranteed money.
Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
IMO the reason people are so hard/down on Palmer is because we traded for him to MAKE the playoffs not to just have a chance. And this year were even farther then we were the last 3 seasons of making that goal, so in an essence what was it all for?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Raider( since 1967)
★★★★★★★
Raiders-27
Browns-23
November 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Fawq, just let Pryor go out there and prove that he doesn’t belong so Mystic can move on to his next racially motivated QB obsession.
The Jason Campbell stuff got old after a year…..now the Pryor stuff is getting old.
Maybe after Pryor falls on his face, Mystic can switch it up and scream for us to trade for Michael Vick for a few months…..at least it would be a change
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take your hood to the dry cleaners! seriously they should throw him out there, hasn’s shown me anything but if speed/size/arm work ethic can become something approaching kaepernick, we might b on 2 something
November 30th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
browns 44
raiders 13
November 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
“@1MontePoole: Two sources insist @TerrellePryor definitely will see action Sunday >> Raiders fans dancing in the rain
November 30th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
craig and lewis = raiders
sapp = eff that pvto
November 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
The same guys say:
Hue Jackson was a terrible coach, he couldn’t even get this team to the playoffs with all that talent he had
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Totally different situation. Hue Jackson took over a team that had momentum, was one late 4th quarter Peyton Manning rally away from winning four of it’s last five, and was believing in itself. Dennis Allen took over a team that was in disarray, was a coin flip away from losing five of it’s last five, and didn’t believe in itself. Thank you Hue Jackson. Those are the facts.
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Stop trying to take credit away from Hue and spin the story in your favor. Hue was 8-8 without Cable, Cable was 5-11 without Hue, and those are the FACTS you speak of. Fact, Hue was a rookie coach and went 8-8, fact, the Raiders O was terrible before Hue was hired, fact, DA has basically the same roster as Hue and wont sniff 8-8. Spin it all you, 1-4 down the stretch, penalties, blah blah blah. Fact is the man went 8-8 as a rookie HC, and few have done so.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
456.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Mike Vick might be toast.
Out a month with a concussion? Reports are that he can’t even watch film still, gets dizzy and headaches.
Eagles will most assuredly release him, then will any team’s Dr. clear him to play? And they will certainly not offer him much, if any guaranteed money.
Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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He couldn’t even see out of his left eye when he took the hit. I agree, his career may in fact be over, very much like Javid Best.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
DA finally did something right.
Now fire Knapp.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
452.RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Interesting how people don’t consider Craig, Lewis and Sapp Raiders. All three played for us…
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They were not Raiders in terms of their HOF portion of their careers (not that any of those guys are or should be HOFers).
Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott are 49er HOFers, not Oakland Raider HOFers. Marcus Allen is a Raider HOFer, not a KC HOFer.
Usually a HOF plaer accrues most of his numbers with one team and then spends is later years bouncing around. Doesn’t make him a HOF player for those teams. Brett Favre was a Packer HOFer playing on the Jets. Period.
Gretzky is an Oiler HOFer, not an LA Kings HOFer…
Wade Boggs going into Cooperstown with a TB Devil ray hat? Come on now!
There have been some close calls….Andre Dawson Cubs/Expose.
Al used to list every NFL player who has ever worn black in their lives as a Raider HOFer…..that jsut isn’t right. If the player didn’t spend the majority of his best years playing for the Raiders, then he is not a Raider HOFer.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Raiders(since 1967)
★★★★★★★
FLASH- news crossing the wire PRYOR will play on SUNDAY!
” LET GO OF THE KRAKEN ”
Raider-27
Browns-23
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
fact, DA has basically the same roster as Hue and wont sniff 8-8.
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Basically the same roster… hmmm. It is a FACT that we had a 41% roster turnover in the offseason.
By your logic, your boss can pay you only 60% of your current salary, because it is ‘basically the same’
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Raiders 44
Browns 0
On my four team parlay card of course,..the Raiders have lost their last game of the year. Once you remove cancer from the body,…it heals.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Mike Vick might be toast.
Out a month with a concussion? Reports are that he can’t even watch film still, gets dizzy and headaches.
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Sure that is from a concussion? Anyone check his water bottle?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Stop trying to take credit away from Hue and spin the story in your favor.
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I just stated facts. What part of Jackson was 1-4 and a coin flip away from 0-5 to end his coaching career do you not get?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
452.RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Interesting how people don’t consider Craig, Lewis and Sapp Raiders. All three played for us…
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They were not Raiders in terms of their HOF portion of their careers (not that any of those guys are or should be HOFers).
Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott are 49er HOFers, not Oakland Raider HOFers. Marcus Allen is a Raider HOFer, not a KC HOFer.
Usually a HOF plaer accrues most of his numbers with one team and then spends is later years bouncing around. Doesn’t make him a HOF player for those teams. Brett Favre was a Packer HOFer playing on the Jets. Period.
Gretzky is an Oiler HOFer, not an LA Kings HOFer…
Wade Boggs going into Cooperstown with a TB Devil ray hat? Come on now!
There have been some close calls….Andre Dawson Cubs/Expose.
Al used to list every NFL player who has ever worn black in their lives as a Raider HOFer…..that jsut isn’t right. If the player didn’t spend the majority of his best years playing for the Raiders, then he is not a Raider HOFer.
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But look how Al took a career backup like Roger Craig and developed him into an absolute force. Or took a longtime disappointment in Jerry Rice and developed him into…
I thought I could type all that with a straight face. Wrong.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Wasted yr… fire yourself reggie
November 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
fact, DA has basically the same roster as Hue and wont sniff 8-8.
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Basically the same roster… hmmm. It is a FACT that we had a 41% roster turnover in the offseason.
By your logic, your boss can pay you only 60% of your current salary, because it is ‘basically the same’
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LOL..
Who said he has basically the same roster?!?!?!?!
November 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
wow so many so called fans want pryor to flop
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Hypocrite. You said Palmer would flop, you remind us of this everyday. When we say you WANT him to fail, you get extremely defensive.
When we don’t think Pryor will be successful, all of the sudden we WANT him to fail?
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who are you speaking for when you say “we want him to fail’?
someone (dakota) wrote this i will paraphrase
“best case scenario he shows enough that we can trade him for a second round pick”
Does that sound like he wants pryor to succeed here?
Not to tme.When asked directly why he wants pryor to fail he did refused to answer.
Then you have other that have called pryor ‘idiot’ or baboon” and so on
so it is clear there are many so called fans that want him to fail
also predicting palmer would fail and reminding the board of my prediction cant be confused with wanting him to fail.
your going to toss your cookies if you keep spinning this way
November 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Sense is far from common with some people.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
LOL..
Who said he has basically the same roster?!?!?!?!
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Post 463
November 30th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Hugh fired himself but he was still a better coach than Dennis Allen
November 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
May have been a slightly better coach in his first year.
But is nowhere near the man.
Hue has no character.
Keep buying those used cars though I guess.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
also predicting palmer would fail and reminding the board of my prediction cant be confused with wanting him to fail.
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I predict Pryor will fail. Do not confuse that with me wanting him to fail. Quit being a hypocrite and stop calling me a hater.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Seymour Bush
A team that had momentum because of the offense installed by Hue Jackson
November 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Whoever said dmac was untradable at the beginning of the year has no common sense.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Maybe some of these guys would feel better if DA referred to Reggie as ‘coach’
November 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Whoever said dmac was untradable at the beginning of the year has no common sense.
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Someone said DMC was untradeable?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Maybe some of these guys would feel better if DA referred to Reggie as ‘coach’
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Obviously.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
just like any other young back up qb in preseason.
he clearly showed he could compete with those guys, now he can prove he play with better talent.
wow so many so called fans want pryor to flop
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Uh, no, no and no. In preseason games, normally the starting Q plays a series and then gives way to the backups who play against ones and twos. In Pryors case he came in against scrubs. Now he did prove he could dominate scrubs, but NFL players should dominate glorified high school players. And no, I want Pryor to be successful. I like hard working guys who perform.
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your playing a word game
back up means anyone that does not start it includes second and 3rd string players
pryor 3rd string entered the game and played other backups, 2nd 3rd string and guys that dont make rosters.
he played well against this group he proved he can compete with that level of player. now we need to see him with starting caliber players around him and against starting caliber opponents.
simple really.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Joe pa was a bad man too.. but at least he could guys up.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Coach guys up.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
fact, DA has basically the same roster as Hue and wont sniff 8-8.
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Basically the same roster… hmmm. It is a FACT that we had a 41% roster turnover in the offseason.
By your logic, your boss can pay you only 60% of your current salary, because it is ‘basically the same’
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what I mean by basically the same roster is the marquee players such as, Huff,Seymour,Branch,TK,Shownasty,Houston,Mcclain,CP3,DMC,DHB,DMoore,Veldeer,Wiz,CooperC,Barnes,Reece,Myers. That is largely the same starters and btw Brisel, Wheeler, and Burris are in some opinions upgrades.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
wow so many so called fans want pryor to flop
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Hypocrite. You said Palmer would flop, you remind us of this everyday. When we say you WANT him to fail, you get extremely defensive.
When we don’t think Pryor will be successful, all of the sudden we WANT him to fail?
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who are you speaking for when you say “we want him to fail’?
someone (dakota) wrote this i will paraphrase
“best case scenario he shows enough that we can trade him for a second round pick”
Does that sound like he wants pryor to succeed here?
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You read into things too much. I just have no FAITH in him to succeed. I doubt his abilities.
You take that and then try and twist it into something malicious because your own personality is fawqed up.
You should see someone for that.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Dmac wasn’t untradeable earlier in the year, nor is he now, however, he will never garner the quantity nor the quality of picks that most people here want.
McFadden today could be traded for MAYBE a 4th round pick. Some here want a 1st and a 2nd. Adrien Peterson couldn’t be traded for that.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
People stop trying to cover your tracks with ‘i hope he pryor plays well”
Most people dont want him never did and it is obvious over time based on what many of you have written.
Now as his time approaches many are trying to change form ‘he will never be an nfl qb” to “i hope he is the future’
we know who you really are, and we know how you really feel.
LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
What was Jon Grudens record as a rookie HC?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RBs have no value.
Lesean McCoy is considered a top 5 RB.. Bryce Brown comes in and dominates.
THATS why Reggie & Allen want the ZBS, you can just plug & play RBs & Olinemen without having to break the bank.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
he played well against this group he proved he can compete with that level of player. now we need to see him with starting caliber players around him and against starting caliber opponents.
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Want to know what TP will look like against a real NFL defense? Go rewatch the 4th preseason game and see what Seattle and Irving did against him.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Fire Knapp and let Al Sanders take it the rest of the way
November 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
D-Mac is tradeable, just not an anywhere near the price people think.
If we wait a few years for the pick (2014 or so) we might get a 2nd rounder.
Draft weekend, 4th rounder.
Teams draft RB’s in the 3rd round, pay them over 4 years almost what we pay McNinny per season, and get equal or more production.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
severeraiderz Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
What was Jon Grudens record as a rookie HC?
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What was Bill Belichick’s….Tom Coughlin’s?…
November 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RockyMountainRaider Says: IMO the reason people are so hard/down on Palmer is because we traded for him to MAKE the playoffs not to just have a chance. And this year were even farther then we were the last 3 seasons of making that goal, so in an essence what was it all for?
I, for one, really enjoy not cringing while a deep pass is in the air for the first time in many years. Well, I didn’t cringe with Campbell ’cause it was our guy or nobody. Most often, nobody. Kerry Collins was kinda fun, though.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
dakota and bcz
your post have clearly revealed that you do not think pryor can cut it.
we will see, dont try ans switch up if he does though, stick to your palmer worship lol
November 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Belichick’s – 6-10
Coughlin’s – 4-12
Both of them have more rings than Gruden.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Most people dont want him never did and it is obvious over time based on what many of you have written.
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Last season you were not a big fan of Pryor. Remember?
Once Soup got hurt again, and the fair skinned torchbearer took over, you changed your stance.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
I never hid from the fact, nor backtracked on the fact that I absolutely unequivocally did NOT want Pryor here, that still in no way shape or form means I ‘hope’ or ‘want’ him to fail. He is a Raider now, I like his work ethic and his attitude since he has been here, I hope he does succeed, no different than I hope EVERY player that puts on the silver and black succeeds. I, unlike you, with NEVER root for the failure of any player in the silver and black, regardless of whether or not I wanted him here.
November 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Oh I thought reggie already traded for a glass running back.. but theyre untradeable?? huh..
November 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
500.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
dakota and bcz
your post have clearly revealed that you do not think pryor can cut it.
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No schyyyt Sherlock?
November 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Stop trying to take credit away from Hue and spin the story in your favor.
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I just stated facts. What part of Jackson was 1-4 and a coin flip away from 0-5 to end his coaching career do you not get?
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Keep spinning,
FACT:
WALSH- 2-14 as a Rookie HC
Jimmy Johnson- 1-15 as rookie HC
No doubt you will find a way to spin those facts also.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I just wish Pryor would switch to #2.. 6 looks so annoying…
He needs to do justice and revive the #2 jersey..
November 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
If we can get NFL starter quality QB play from Pryor, on a 3rd round rookie contract, we will be loaded from a salary-cap perspective.
That’s why this staff and organization is working him in, and having a QB coach work with him daily, and now working on getting him some PT.
Something Hue did not have the foresight to do.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
he played well against this group he proved he can compete with that level of player. now we need to see him with starting caliber players around him and against starting caliber opponents.
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Want to know what TP will look like against a real NFL defense? Go rewatch the 4th preseason game and see what Seattle and Irving did against him.
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oh you mean when he was 6/9 passing for 66 comp%?
he did that with an oline made of guys that are chopping lettuce at togos today.
yep more proof he deserves a shot with the real players
November 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Press Conference? Link anyone?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Good day fellow bloggers & trolls..
God Bless..
November 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Oh I thought reggie already traded for a glass running back..
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We gave up a furniture mover for him, not really the same thing as a draft pick.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Fire the staff and yourself in that order reggie.. have each coach walk up to the podium and collect his pink slip like a high school diploma…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Hue and AL 8-8.DA and bottom lip 3-8.simple. Most in here cant count I see.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
He was 6 of 9 for 55 yards. He scored 0 points, was sacked 3 times, one being for a safety.
This is what you are touting as ‘phenominal play’?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Veldheer FA Wiz Berg FA
Reece DMAC
Bowe DHB Moore
CP (unless pryor impresses)
Myers/ausberry
Werner Bryant Houston Shaughnessey
Wheeler Maualuga Burris
Huff Rogers Cromartie
Branch best fS avail in second round
lechler
jano
ford
November 30th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
504.Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Oh I thought reggie already traded for a glass running back.. but theyre untradeable?? huh..
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You want to trade McFadden for the equivelant of Bruce Campbell? Well under those circumstances than yes, he is very tradeable.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Hubris ended up the same place Dennis Allen and Reggie McKenzie will end up — NO PLAYOFFS.
The Hubris of Deluth will hold the distinction Allen will hold, first-year coaches, no postseason.
Don’t give me this 8-8 stuff, if that’s your thing, then fine, mediocrity is your passion.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
My 4 year old can tell the differance between 8-8 and 3-8,but most adults on here cannot.= Dumbest football fans in the world are on this blog!!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Guys…..we spend hours and hours of our lives in here arguing about this team, players and coaches….and the owner.
And 90 out of 100 times, said player, coach, team, owner turns out to be bad or an underachiever lol.
Kiffin, Cable, Hue, Allen, Ryan, Knapp, Chucky B., the 2008 & 2010-12 teams, Al Davis, all of the players that some of us thought were good and have gone on and done nothing with other teams, Campbell, Bush, Routt, Chaz, that RB who would tear it up in the preseason can’t remember his name, all the undrafted free agents that we think are going to turn into good players lol.
….all the free agents that were going to do well here…..all the players we trade for…..almost all turns to crap lol.
But…at least we are entertained.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Most people dont want him never did and it is obvious over time based on what many of you have written.
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Last season you were not a big fan of Pryor. Remember?
Once Soup got hurt again, and the fair skinned torchbearer took over, you changed your stance.
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what is true is that i wasnt sold on pryor 2 years ago as a passer, and i saw character questions. however i stated i was willing to wait and see if he had improved as a passer and could mature as a man.
he has shown since joining the team he has improved his mechanical issue and he looked like a completely different passer in the preseaosn than at any point in college.
In fact i wroTe that the day after the dallas a game.
he showed enough maturity and work ethic to impress me, and i was convinced at that moment we needed to get him on the field this year.
I have been even more encouraged by the subsequent events leading form dallas until now. both palmers failings and pryors promise.
now mix in what seattle did with wilson (whom you said would be backing up flynn ) and washington with rgIII and carolina with cam, I AM JUICED TO SEE THIS KID AND I HOPE HE REVOLTUIONIZES THE OFFENSE HERE!!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Hue Jackson was OK. Creative coordinator, did a decent job for a rookie HC, but he made enough mistakes that I wasnt too upset that he was let go, as long as we were going to replace him with an upgrade.
Now Dennis Allen, he sucks. Doesnt game plan well, doesnt make adjustments well, doesnt get the most out of his most talented players and does not put them in positions to be successful or create match ups.
And yes, the Raiders do have some very bad players. But guesss what? So, does every team. We also have a few GOOD players, with enough talent that we should at least be finding ways to maximize their production. Something good, or even creative coaches do.
This whole staff seems like they got their knowledge by reading Football Coaching For Dummies.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Yes I want to trade everyone I wanted to trade everyone 2 months ago but you idiots that still thought we’d make the playoffs said waaa… we need draft picks the top 1 would be best obviously…. Fire sales equals last place last place equals top pick top pick the quals trades for more pics
November 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Reggiehater
Hubris ended up the same place Dennis Allen and Reggie McKenzie will end up — NO PLAYOFFS.
The Hubris of Deluth will hold the distinction Allen will hold, first-year coaches, no postseason.
Don’t give me this 8-8 stuff, if that’s your thing, then fine, mediocrity is your passion.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
519.jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Hubris ended up the same place Dennis Allen and Reggie McKenzie will end up — NO PLAYOFFS.
The Hubris of Deluth will hold the distinction Allen will hold, first-year coaches, no postseason.
Don’t give me this 8-8 stuff, if that’s your thing, then fine, mediocrity is your passion.
8-8 3-8.Big differance.Learn to count.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Reggiehater
Same end result. No playoffs.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I don’t remember ANY players traded during the deadline (was there any??) so to think the only thing that prevented us from turning a bunch of players into a bunch of picks, was our front office, is irrationale at best, and ignorant at worst.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
527.jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Reggiehater
Same end result. No playoffs.
OH,so you would rather be a complete laughing stock then being 1 play from the playoffs? Hillarious fkn people.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
3-8 soon to be 3-13….ten more years of reggie and then…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
524.Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Yes I want to trade everyone I wanted to trade everyone 2 months ago but you idiots that still thought we’d make the playoffs said waaa… we need draft picks the top 1 would be best obviously…. Fire sales equals last place last place equals top pick top pick the quals trades for more pics
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I was right there with ya my man!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
He was 6 of 9 for 55 yards. He scored 0 points, was sacked 3 times, one being for a safety.
This is what you are touting as ‘phenominal play’?
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6/9 55 yards is impressive for a rookie
sacks were largley due to playing with scrub o line players he had zero help in that game
his total body of work in the pre season is in my opinion outstanding
Why you keep trying to take plays away or isolate single events is the same way you try to make a case for palmer.
I dont view things that way i take the wholistic (afrikan) view
you have a fragmented (eurocentric) view
to each his own
November 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Reggiehater
A team’s record is meaningless if they didn’t make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
Raiders make playoffs — Whoopee!
Raiders win SB – Hell yeah!
I’m aiming Super Bowl, not getting a foot in the door.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Yes I want to trade everyone I wanted to trade everyone 2 months ago but you idiots that still thought we’d make the playoffs said
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I predicted (and still do) that we would finish 6-10… I am 100% certain that 6-10 does not translate to playoffs in the NFL.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Reggiehater
According to you, you would rather have the Raiders mediocre at 8-8.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Done for the day
FREE TP 6!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
493.severeraiderz Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
What was Jon Grudens record as a rookie HC?
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8-8.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Tommy Kelly talked to McClain, told him “don’t put yourself in a position to be made scapegoat for team’s bad season;” hopes he comes back
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What did that “insider” say last night. All team wasnt close to McClain but kelly. Said mcclain could go for all they care but kelly lol.. this quote proves it.
Kelly is next to be gone
November 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
its ok….ten and then
we are on the ten year plan….until we can get back to 8-8…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
I would rather have the Raiders be competitive than the least competitive team in football.
Thanks to Reggie.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Tommy Kelly talked to McClain, told him “don’t put yourself in a position to be made scapegoat for team’s bad season;” hopes he comes back
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Kelly is right, Rolando shouldn’t allow them to Scapegoat him for this season. It should be Kelly who has more offside penalties than tackles.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Thats like saying you would rather die at 16 than 60.Completly fkn idiotic! You have the right screen name thats for sure.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
So the Reggie presser thing was all b.s?
It doesn’t surprise me i guess.
EVERYTHING this org. has done this yr. has been a disappointment.
Just when I got excited about McClain being gone and DA “getting tough” with the team they let him off the hook with a weak suspension.
We can’t even get the GM to say anything…about anything.
WHo started this Reggie presser garbage anyway?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
Blame for this mess goes all around.
First and foremost, Mark Davis. That gentleman hired Reggie McKenzie.
Reason McKenzie is still employed.
Mark Davis.
Now, I’m on the wait see approach. See what McKenzie can do in terms of draft and free agency. However, McKenzie has surely whiffed on some personnel/roster decisions.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Reggiehater
AN NFL team’s goal is win a Super Bowl. Not just meek into the playoffs.
Seems in Oakland, just getting a whiff of the postseason is enough.
And that is pathetic, regardless of coaching staff or management.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I haven’t heard a thing about this press conference. Anyone know anything about it?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
The drama never ends with this team…
The season is lost and schit hits the fan
November 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
If it is so easy and a few on this blog site won’t give Hue credit for what he accomplished what does that say in regard to Reggie and Dennis sitting at 3-8 with five more game left?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
533.jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Reggiehater
A team’s record is meaningless if they didn’t make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
Raiders make playoffs — Whoopee!
Raiders win SB – Hell yeah!
I’m aiming Super Bowl, not getting a foot in the door.
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SB would be fantastic, but at this point I would be happy with just having some measure of “respect” instead of being a freaking laughingstock again.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
545.jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Reggiehater
AN NFL team’s goal is win a Super Bowl. Not just meek into the playoffs.
Seems in Oakland, just getting a whiff of the postseason is enough.
And that is pathetic, regardless of coaching staff or management.
NO SHT SHURLOCK! But there are 32 teams in the NFL.WTF?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Cork splitting a ham sandwich with Reggie at this moment
November 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Sense is far from common with some people.
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Funny, yet true. Good one DAV……
November 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
DJ Johnny
I hear you man.
I would love to see the team competitive.
But being around football so long, and interviewing countless players and coaches, I’ve learned moral victories are meaningless.
What I mean by that is, even if Raiders are competitive and lose, it’s the same end result — a loss.
And regardless of how they lose — close or blowout — I’m always upset when the Raiders get the L in their record.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Is the press conference anywhere we can watch it?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Tommy Kelly talked to McClain, told him “don’t put yourself in a position to be made scapegoat for team’s bad season;” hopes he comes back
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dang sounds like he’s against the org decision, who else?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Reggiehater
A team’s record is meaningless if they didn’t make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
Raiders make playoffs — Whoopee!
Raiders win SB – Hell yeah!
I’m aiming Super Bowl, not getting a foot in the door.
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Its meaningless in a discussion of who the actual world champ of that season is. But I dont think its meaningless when comparing the play of one team to another. And thats what we are doing here. Comparing this years team to last years team, just for the sake of argument. I can at least say this much, there sure were a lot less angry Raiders fans last season than there were this season. Howd these guys get so bad? Lets say the goal was to forget last season and start from scratch, which we know wasnt the case because Reggie and DA both stated that they felt this team could win the division, but hypothetically, lets just pretend that the plan was to forget last season and start over anew. Should we not have at least seen some improvement out of DA’s sqaud? Just a little?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Who will be the OC for Raiders in 2013…
Who will be DC
November 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
kinda funny you have to get in the playoffs before you go the super bowl…this isnt bcs bs
November 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
So is everyone going to believe that its just McClain and Kelly who feel this way about the staff? Not saying that its impossible for them to be the only ones, but if anyone has ever played on a TEAM of football players, I think they would agree that it is highly UNLIKELY that its just Kelly and McClain. Very telling.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Belichick’s – 6-10
Coughlin’s – 4-12
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Hue 8-8 didnt get a second season, who knows what may have been.
Mike Mccarthy 8-8 they let him continue and it paid off with a SB win.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Anybody who says there is no differance between 8-8 and 3-8 is a person who does not actually watch the games.Just go to sportscenter and check the score and say “oh well maybe next year”. I like to sit down watch the game and get excited to win more than 3 fkn games a year.Jesus christmas!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Dan78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Who will be the OC for Raiders in 2013…
Who will be DC
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Still Tarver and Knapp, but they will switch sides of the ball since Knapp knows more about shutting down an offense, and Tarver’s specialty is Offensive yards and points.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Reggie fired Hue because he wanted to hire his own guy.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
McClain and Kelly are used to going to Al to talk smack of coaches. Not used to the new regime.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
John David Booty
We will probably never know the true feelings of the majority of players on the roster — although every Raider fan on the planet — including myself — would love to know.
It’s very hard to sway the majority of a team’s roster one or another.
There will always be a person or persons who don’t feel the same way as the whole.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Dan78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Who will be the OC for Raiders in 2013…
Who will be DC
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Still Tarver and Knapp, but they will switch sides of the ball since Knapp knows more about shutting down an offense, and Tarver’s specialty is Offensive yards and points.
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HA!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Funny prank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N5OhNplEd4&feature=g-logo
November 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
I heard the opposite, it was Mark Davis that canned Hubris. Who knows, either way Hubris is gone.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
That is an idiotic think for Kelly to say anyways. Who is scapegoating McClain. There are reports of him sleeping during film study, then there is his body of work on the field, and Kelly thinks what Reg and DA are going to have a post season press conference and say, ‘Well, we would have made the playoffs if not for McClains antics’… that is ridiculous.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
there is a whole lot pf players waiting for the season to end…they do not want to play for DA…word gets around the league as well, other free agents wont want to play for this team now…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
553,
Me too. What I mean is, of course the long term goal is winning a SB, but getting to the playoffs is the first step in getting to that.
By “respectable” i mean having a decent record..not being a joke..not getting blownout every week in record setting fashion.
THAT to me would be a step up along the road to where we ultimately want to be.
I relaize the players have to “execute” and the coaches can only do so much, but there’s a reason teams shell out big $ for certain coaches…they DO have an effect…and sometimes BIG effect on how a team performs or else nobody would ever hire BIG NAME coaches; they’d just put Joe Schmo in there and not worry about it.
It’s not ALL the coaches, but DA has to take his share of the blame for this disaster we’re seeing.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
wow Reggie to Review DA’s status after the season. Said he is under evaluation right now. Nothing is guarenteed.
Mark Davis pushing for Pryor to play.
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Knew that about mark already. He basically said it after the saints loss. Said he had his own ideas on who should be starting qb. Not leinart
November 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Charles Woodson used to sleep through film sessions, difference is he would at least play his @$$ off on Sundays.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
The fact that Tommy Kelly is one of the team’s leaders says a lot about why they suck so bad.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
For those who under estimate coaching see the Saints.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Al_is_theraiders
Read and heard the same things about the Raiders and players when Big Al was in charge.
No one wanted to come to Oakland and play for Al Davis and his staff.
But we’ve learned, money talks.
But, one has to wonder, what kind of money Oakland will have this offseason…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
John David Booty
We will probably never know the true feelings of the majority of players on the roster — although every Raider fan on the planet — including myself — would love to know.
It’s very hard to sway the majority of a team’s roster one or another.
There will always be a person or persons who don’t feel the same way as the whole.
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I agree. And if its anything close to being split down the middle, unfortunately, we havent even seen the worse yet.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
563.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Reggie fired Hue because he wanted to hire his own guy.
============================= You mean WANTEDEDED his ownss guy
November 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
9-7 is all it takes to win a superbowl. It has been won a few time with a 9-7 record. When a team is close to 9-7 it is irrational to change a whole system of things at that point.I guess it is difficult for some Raider fans to grasp that concept and the concept is pretty simple.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
The fact that Tommy Kelly is one of the team’s leaders says a lot about why they suck so bad.
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He’s not a team leader, he just doesn’t shut his mouth so the media loves to quote him.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Tommy Kelly talked to McClain, told him “don’t put yourself in a position to be made scapegoat for team’s bad season;” hopes he comes back
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Kelly is right, Rolando shouldn’t allow them to Scapegoat him for this season. It should be Kelly who has more offside penalties than tackles.
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Who the Fk is scapegoating Morondo for the season?
I’ll scapegoat #55 for being #55.
Know wonder him and Kelly are buds.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN 22m
“He ain’t what’s wrong with the team; it’s a collective effort.” – #raiders DT Tommy Kelly, on Rolando McClain
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With the exception of only a few. Reece, Wheeler and Palmer come to mind. Pretty much the entire roster is a disgrace to the uniform..
I mention the three players above, solely for the reason that none of them have ever given up. Regardless of the score…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
The_Judge37
C-Wood is one of my all-time favorite Raiders and football players in general.
I remember Mike McCarthy commenting about him in an interview where he basically said Woodson was the only player he knew that didn’t need to practice and would be outstanding on game day.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
30.DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DA is racist.If Mclain was white there wouldnt have been any suspension.
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Troll, troll, troll your boat…
SHUT,SHUT,SHUT YOUR MOUTH…little tiny punk,I will bust your a$$ then throw you in a trunk.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Get the hell out of here pu$$y thug want to be. lol at you…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
morilla Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Tommy Kelly talked to McClain, told him “don’t put yourself in a position to be made scapegoat for team’s bad season;” hopes he comes back
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Kelly is right, Rolando shouldn’t allow them to Scapegoat him for this season. It should be Kelly who has more offside penalties than tackles.
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Who the Fk is scapegoating Morondo for the season?
I’ll scapegoat #55 for being #55.
Know wonder him and Kelly are buds.
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They’re like Forrest and Bubba, “I’m gone lean up against you, and you lean up against me, that we we ain’t gotta sleep wit our heads in the Mud”
November 30th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
554.Raiderbuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Is the press conference anywhere we can watch it?
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I don’t even think it’s happening.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Transcript of some of the presser going on…
wow Reggie to Review DA’s status after the season. Said he is under evaluation right now. Nothing is guarenteed.
Mark Davis pushing for Pryor to play.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
mclain was who we thought he was.. sadly…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
With the exception of only a few. Reece, Wheeler and Palmer come to mind. Pretty much the entire roster is a disgrace to the uniform..
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Gotta give a pass to some of the rookies too. Burris has looked good at times.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
584.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
30.DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DA is racist.If Mclain was white there wouldnt have been any suspension.
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Troll, troll, troll your boat…
SHUT,SHUT,SHUT YOUR MOUTH…little tiny punk,I will bust your a$$ then throw you in a trunk.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Get the hell out of here pu$$y thug want to be. lol at you…
=========================================== Come show me the door chico.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
The_Judge37
C-Wood is one of my all-time favorite Raiders and football players in general.
I remember Mike McCarthy commenting about him in an interview where he basically said Woodson was the only player he knew that didn’t need to practice and would be outstanding on game day.
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Yeah he was good. I just hope Rolando vs DA doesn’t turn out like Woodson vs Callahan. But there’s no way Slowlando is even remotley salvagable.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
588.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
mclain was who we thought he was.. sadly…
And so are you.Illegal immigrant sadly..
November 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
The_Judge37
Oakland and McClain are a lost cause as this point.
It is plausible the reason Rolando McClain was suspended two games instead of outright waived was so he would be ‘rewarded’ and free to flee.
Now he’s got to marinate in his actions — we will never know what happened, I bet — and sit and wonder.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
ignore racist trolls that were dropped by their mamas on their little heads…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur 52m
Mike Mitchell said teammates are giving suspended Rolando McClain his space and letting the situation “marinate”
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??…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
ignore racist trolls that were dropped by their mamas on their little heads
=========================== Now get the 40 illegal’s out of your house and come mow my lawn greasy!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Scouring Raider beat writer twitter accounts and other sources to see what’s going on with the presser.
Speaking of twitter, when you post, you didn’t tweet. Correct punctuality would be you twated, no?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
587.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Transcript of some of the presser going on…
wow Reggie to Review DA’s status after the season. Said he is under evaluation right now. Nothing is guarenteed.
Mark Davis pushing for Pryor to play.
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Where are u getting this from?
There’s nothing even on csnbayarea.com
November 30th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
i think mcclain pushed DA, DA mustve tried to play tough guy….”his actions..”
November 30th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur 52m
Mike Mitchell said teammates are giving suspended Rolando McClain his space and letting the situation “marinate”
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Marinate his jersey and burn it…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
COOKARACTHA COOKARATCHA ya ta ta ta ta ta.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Gotta give a pass to some of the rookies too. Burris has looked good at times.
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Burris shows up every week ready to play…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I think someone’s trailer is burning…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Immigration would give me a fkn metal if I backed a truck up and packed half this blog into it.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
burriss makes ten tackles a game….ten yards downfield.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Reggiehater
And apparently you would also be supreme champion in a spelling bee…. medal… not metal…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Waddup Nation
McFadden finally back and Criner coming on strong, so at least we got a few things to watch this weekend.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
i think mcclain pushed DA, DA mustve tried to play tough guy….”his actions..”
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I think you got it backwards, McClain got to play tough guy, and now has the whole world laughing at him.
And he is less a lot of change as well.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I think he means metal toilet seat in his trailer..
November 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder
Remember watching Criner during his days at Arizona and like what I see so far from him in the pros.
His body control was amazing to watch in college and we’re seeing glimpses of it in the NFL.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
606.jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Reggiehater
And apparently you would also be supreme champion in a spelling bee…. medal… not metal…
What a funny guy.hrrrrrrrrr hrrrrrrr. your mother is a supreme champion at sucking cok smart guy.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Slo running to facebook and blabbing on about it tells you all you need to know about his maturity level. Good thing an adult told him to take it down. What a moron.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Reggiehater
And I’m damn proud of my mom for it! We all have to be good at something.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
609.Dan78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I think he means metal toilet seat in his trailer..
If you seen my house you would go shoot yourself fajjit!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Reggiehater
And besides, the world has forgiven your mom for her decision not to terminate the embryo that eventually became you.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder
Remember watching Criner during his days at Arizona and like what I see so far from him in the pros.
His body control was amazing to watch in college and we’re seeing glimpses of it in the NFL.
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Yea, it’s good to see him doing good things out there. Not a lot of receivers in the league could’ve made that play on that fade… thing of beauty…
November 30th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
609.Dan78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I think he means metal toilet seat in his trailer..
If you seen my house you would go shoot yourself fajjit!
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Im sure your cardboard house outside the Blue Oyster cafe is fabulous
November 30th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
A couple more fellers to add to the list of “we are going to the playoffs this year”.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Here it is, I found the live feed to the presser:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/sportsnetBayArea/search/v/40193046/1-18-raiders-press-conference-al-davis-case-against-tom-cable.htm
November 30th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Allen: “You’re a POS Linebacker”
McClain: “You’re a POS coach”
Allen: “Touche”
November 30th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
The_Judge37
Ha!
I heard DA stood in behind and between Knapp and Tarver and told Rolando “Come get me”.
Rolondo charged, shot the wrong gap and whiffed on DA.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Tommy Kelly talked to McClain, told him “don’t put yourself in a position to be made scapegoat for team’s bad season;” hopes he comes back
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This staff has a way of misusing players and then blaming players. Ro is just a convenient excuse for the coaches to make an example of someone.
Romo every week singles out Rolando and makes him the sole reason this defense stinks. Yet he has never said one negative word about Burris’ constant whiffs. I have had enough of Romo and castration of Rolando. Sure everyone including myself have noticed Ro’s issues and he needed his share of blame but to single him out everytime never mention others is way over the top IMO.
I think Rolando has never bought into what these coaches have been selling but he is definitely not by himself. You don’t lose the way this team loses and just blame one player every week. It seemed very contrived IMO. Like Romo was helping the coaching staff set Ro up to get rid of him. I think Ro just had enough and told the HC to take a hike.
I think he wants out of here bad and maybe so do others. As I said before players aren’t stupid they see clearly what’s going on. This staff has doghoused several players with hidden agendas. Rolando is one of many.
November 30th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Why is there NOTHING ANYWHERE about this so called Reggie press conference?
November 30th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Priesttj12
I bet if Burris was a high-round draft pick, he would have Romo all over him.
Romo is picking on Rolando McClain because of his No. 8 overall draft status.
Man, now that would be a sight to behold. Imagine if Romo was still a linebacker today and McClain was his teammate!
November 30th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Like Romo was helping the coaching staff set Ro up to get rid of him.
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Romo said the same exact things last year about him, and the coach got fired and Rolando stayed.
Nice try.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
622,
Priest, keep in mind Romo is hammering on Rolando cuz he is playing Romo’s old position. Romo takes alot of pride in being a pretty decent linebacker in his day and knows the position fairly well.
He’s probably focusing on Rolando more becuz of that. Romo understands having played the position how vital it is to the overall success of the unit.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I can’t wait to watch McFadden play for the Packers next year.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Priesttj12
McClain hasn’t been the only whipping boy for Romo.
Three weeks ago, he said:
“Richard Seymour hasn’t been a leader in his entire life or football career.”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Watch the team before a game when they’re rallying together on the sideline. McLain was never in that group. He was always off to the side alone. He could care less about football and it shows. Coaches finally had enough.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
I like BHP. I think you’re a passionate guy and provide good insight on occasion, but whiff on occasion (and I’m no different).
I think 622 is a massive whiff.
Romanowski’s not getting anyone fired.
I’m sure Cable, Hue, and DA have all hated Rolando for the same reasons:
Slow
Lazy
No heart
Immature
It’s easy to single him out because he is most often the guy with the most aggregious errors, at least in the front 7.
And Kelly backs up like everybody. I think Kelly was the last guy in Jamarcus’s corner too, right?
Forget what Tommy says.
The best players play hard even on bad teams. Rolando jogged around for two straight 8-8 teams and was one of the biggest offenders on our massive defensive meltdowns last year (Buffalo, SD, Detroit, SD come immediately to mind).
Ro’s gone and should be.
This is a good thing. Best thing Reg/DA have done to date.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
That is no reason to single out one player I don’ care if he was drafted #1 overall. He was way too excessive in his attacks where the host felt bad for Rolando.
Ro would kick Romo’s ass everday and twice on Sunday. Romo aint stupid he knows who to fight.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Why is there NOTHING ANYWHERE about this so called Reggie press conference?
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I think Cork said the presser was for hacks only – behind closed doors.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Romo should have hooked McClain up with some juice, like he did for those Broncos teams…..then maybe McClain would have made a play or two during his time here.
WTF Romo? If you aint cheating you aint tryin!
Slowlando is your fault Romo!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Reggie McKenzie said Ro McClain’s “actions” were not first-time deal; there’s “possibility” he’s done w/ #Raiders — “not been apologetic”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Reggie McKenzie “still pleased with Dennis” Allen; #Raiders GM is disappointed with 3-8 record — “it’s on players to do your job”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Why is there NOTHING ANYWHERE about this so called Reggie press conference?
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I think Cork said the presser was for hacks only – behind closed doors.
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Will all his comments be off the record…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
OK, you’lll see what I mean soon enough I’m hearing some disturbing things going on at Harbor Bay Parkway. AS bad as Ro was he had a ton of help being that bad.
I never went as far this on him because the wya he is percieved but that kid was just a scapegoat for bad coaching not that he is without fault but he’s not the ONLY one to blame. I watched the film we were getting killed and it wasn’t just him………period
November 30th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Mcfragile needs to get back on the juice.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Ro would kick Romo’s ass everday and twice on Sunday. Romo aint stupid he knows who to fight.
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Would have been nice to see some of that passion ON the field.
Rolando sucks. His college tape sucked too.
He sucked here. Everybody kept waiting for him to have it click.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
“I think I’m going to make that call, not him.”- #Raiders GM #ReggieMcKenzie, on #RolandoMcClain’s FB comments that he’s no longer a Raider
Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
“It’s…a possibility. What’s going to happen afterward? How he going to handle it?” McKenzie on if McClain has played last game as Raider
Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
“It’s going to be on him. I don’t feel the need to approach him.” – #Raiders GM #ReggieMcKenzie, on #RolandoMcClain getting back in graces
November 30th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
“not been apologetic”
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Deuces Slo
November 30th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
stay on topic ppl
November 30th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
631.Priesttj12 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
That is no reason to single out one player I don’ care if he was drafted #1 overall. He was way too excessive in his attacks where the host felt bad for Rolando.
Ro would kick Romo’s ass everday and twice on Sunday. Romo aint stupid he knows who to fight.
Please,Romo would snatch his helmet off and break his fkn cheekbone,just like the last big mouth.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Another failed, 1st RD draft pick by Al Davis….
In the last 12 years, has AL drafted anyone that has panned out?
I mean,NO WONDER our roster sux, and a lot of you idiots want to blame DA & Reggie??
Jabustus
McClain
mcfadden
Fabian Washington
Gallery
so on and so on..
Morons…..
November 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie would’t go into who’s safe and who’s not until after season-long evaluation is over, but made clear he has input on coaching staff
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
As far as run problems go, McKenzie said, “You gotta knock people off the ball, I don’t care what scheme it is.”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie: “My bad’s get old after a while.”
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Context ( when players look at eachother like wtf) or saying My bad .. Thats my bad
November 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Why is there NOTHING ANYWHERE about this so called Reggie press conference?
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I think Cork said the presser was for hacks only – behind closed doors.
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Will all his comments be off the record…
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Cork promised us a full write up – he is probably writing it up now…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Of Course Rolondo had help being bad…. We problably won’t reconize the roster next summer…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Why have a freakin PC and not have it broadcasted?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Everyone needs to chill the f out. Keep Palmer for next year, trade the pick and load up on D in the draft(I prefer they go 3-4), and get 1 playmaker on Offense in FA over each of the next 2 seasons. They need to continue to draft for O & D line in 2013 & 2014, and they need to monitor the progress of Johnny Manziel or whoever they’re going to take at QB in 2 years. Manziel, if he pans out, looks like the next Steve Young, only right handed.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Everyone shet up. The presser is going on right now with just reporters.
Im giving u guys the tweets as they come in. relax
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
These guys, especially on defense, have been rank garbage for a long time. McClain doesn’t perform.
Other teams do not have as large a collection of do-nothing players.
Priest, coaches don’t cut good players. Especially GMs that put in more than a few hours a day evluating talent.
I am SICK AND TIRED of Raider Nation having such low standards for top draft picks.
Has McClain ever played to the level of a Patrick Willis, or the young MLBs in Tampa and Carolina….is Rolando having a Clay Matthews type impact.
Where’s or AJ Green? Jerod Mayo?
How about DHB, Mike Mitchell, DMAC? Do you ever record a TV analyst say in the pre-game “You know, look out for he’s one of the best”
Nope…excuses, coddling, bs, bloated contracts
AND LOSING!
Time for real change.
Clean house Reggie!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
“It’s going to be on him. I don’t feel the need to approach him.” – #Raiders GM #ReggieMcKenzie, on #RolandoMcClain getting back in graces
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
its not even a presser.. just a Q n A. Shet up and wait for the tweets
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
My bad’s get old after a while.”
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Tells you that even the players in private are excepting the blame.
Just not correcting it.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Why is there NOTHING ANYWHERE about this so called Reggie press conference?
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Via, Vic Tafur’s twitter:
Lizbeth Sanchez @lizbeth_sansan 4h
@VicTafur Are they airing the conference? Or is it just a phone conference?
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@VicTafur
@lizbeth_sansan it’s not televised. That way we can all wear sweats and eat Cheetos
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The fishwrap hacks NEVER pass up a free lunch..
November 30th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
“It’s…a possibility. What’s going to happen afterward? How he going to handle it?” McKenzie on if McClain has played last game as Raider
November 30th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
“This was a terrible November.” – #Raiders GM #Reggie McKenzie
November 30th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
“This was a terrible November.” – #Raiders GM #Reggie McKenzie
November 30th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Thanks for the twitter updates!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie would’t go into who’s safe and who’s not until after season-long evaluation is over, but made clear he has input on coaching staff
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
As far as run problems go, McKenzie said, “You gotta knock people off the ball, I don’t care what scheme it is.”
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Yep, sure do have to knock them off the ball. Too bad youre paying the wrong guys to show your players how to do it in the manner that theyd like to see it done. Had no trouble knocking people off the ball when Cable was here coaching the ZBS. Had no trouble knocking people off the ball when Wylie and Wiz were running the line last season.
Sorry, Reggie. Your guys Pollack and Knapp have failed.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Reggie is a joke.
The joke is on the Nation.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
635.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Reggie McKenzie “still pleased with Dennis” Allen; #Raiders GM is disappointed with 3-8 record — “it’s on players to do your job”
What that fat retarded bottom lip idiot doesnt understand is that he and DA will both be cleaning out their desk at the same time.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
LOL at people thinking the presser was an urban legend.
You really think that these scribes would show up like hey where’s the presser?
They double and triple confirm these things, days in advance.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Terrible November?????
November 30th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
“its on players to do your job”
That quote is the result of coaches and GM doing their film study.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
More in a bit …
November 30th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Al Davis has wiffed time and time again on 1st Rd Picks;
2010- McClain- BUST
2009- DHB- Reach of a pick
2008- McFadden- Always hurt
2007- JaWalrus- BIGGETS BUST EVER!
2006- Huff- Not so great
2005- Washington-BUST
2004- Gallery- BUST
2003-Nnamdi- Good pick
2002- Buchanon- BUST
2001- Gibson- BUST
2000- Seabass- our best Player???
1999- stinchcomb- bust
1998- CWood- great pick
1997- Russel- Bust
1996- Dudley- Bust
Horrible!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
they need to monitor the progress of Johnny Manziel or whoever they’re going to take at QB in 2 years. Manziel, if he pans out, looks like the next Steve Young, only right handed.
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Or Marcus Mariota….He’s something special.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Reggie McKenzie said Ro McClain’s “actions” were not first-time deal; there’s “possibility” he’s done w/ #Raiders — “not been apologetic”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
wait till amy and mark see the bottom line of stadium attendence, then he will get the message…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Terrible November = stating the obvious.
Give us some real insight Reggie.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
For Reggie to say Rolando’s issue was not a first time deal, that has to imply not a first time deal under his watch.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
There is a possibility that Reggie is done with the Raiders.
Reggie has not been apologetic.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
talk about ego….”im not approaching him…he can come talk to me…” meanwhile….more losing
November 30th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
They must be getting into some heavy stuff.. because tweets have stop coming in.
Vic tafaur says more in a bit. STANDBYE
November 30th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
676….yup snacks…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
303 Raider,
Your post doesn’t include the trades for Randy Moss, deAngelo Hall, Richard Seymour and Carson Palmer.
Traded 3 1st rounders and 2 second rounders.
Any “elite” players in the group.
Also, the performance in the 2nd round is just as disappointing.
Can’t win without talent.
And the Raiders are an embodiment of that fact each and every day they step on the field!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Reggie just keeps confirming what I have said all along.He is not quaified to be a gm.Terrible november.REALLY? UP to the players? Same players he brought here.ALL bums.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
671.Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
wait till amy and mark see the bottom line of stadium attendence, then he will get the message…
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True…and that will only drive them to get real talent into oakland that don’t waste the fans’ time or steal its hard earned dollar with lousy performances.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Bo Jackson @BoJackson
Thanks everyone for all of the 50th Birthday wishes. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate all of you.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
680 thats my hope….
November 30th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Reggiehater
In a perfect world, Mark Davis cleans out his office as well if McKenzie and DA go.
Of course, that won’t happen because he is owner.
Mark Davis is equally as culpable as McKenzie is. Mark is the one who hired Reggie.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Bet the defense plays it’s best game of the year without the Alabama anchor around it’s neck.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
#Raiders Tommy Kelly tried to talk Rolando McClain out of tirade http://sbn.to/Wznt6D via @silverandblackp
November 30th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN 10m
“This was a terrible November.” – #Raiders GM #Reggie McKenzie
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Uhh, don’t forget October, and September.. I wouldn’t call our play “stellar” in those months either….
November 30th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
following Rolando McClain being kicked out of practice Wednesday, Tommy Kelly spoke with the heated linebacker in an attempt to talk some sense into him. The talk was not a successful one.
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“He was kinda in the heat of the moment so temper are flaring at the time.” Said Kelly of McClain’s mood immediately following Dennis Allen giving him the boot from practice.
“I mean what happened, happened between him and the coach, I really don’t know, I wasn’t around but when I got a chance to say something to him, I let him know, don’t [expletive] yourself up just because y’all have a disagreement. I mean sometimes you just gotta swallow it, you know you what I’m saying? ‘Alright coach’, just take it, you know?”
“I mean, man, it’s a situation where me personally I don’t want that from Ro because I’ve been around here and seen players go out and have differences with coaches and it snowballs and it kind of hurts you from going onto the next team. So, I just wanted him to just like, just know what you’re doing homie, you know what I’m saying. Even if you do have a disagreement with somebody, don’t let it affect your future earnings or your future anything you can do in your career. You don’t want nobody to put no bad label on you, say you’re a bad guy, so it would be hard to get a job. That’s what I wanted him to know.”
“I told him that. He knows how I feel about this. You’re always gonna have disagreements with the coaches and everything but in the end they’re gonna win out. There’s no use in really fighting it because they got the power of the pen. They can ruin your career so I just wanted him to know, don’t ruin your career off a small disagreement.”
Even after Kelly spoke to him, McClain went on facebook and announced prematurely to the world that he was “Officially no longer an Oakland Raider”. He then said it was not technically official but he was “Mentally done” and went on to say that he was glad to leave so he could join a “real team”.
He quickly erased the messages on facebook but the evidence was already making the rounds.
Even then one might argue that his actions were still in the heat of the moment. But word from Reggie McKenzie today was that McClain is still not apologizing for anything he did. He also said it was not the first time they have had issues with McClain and all of this played into his getting suspended for two games this season.
Tommy Kelly may not seem like the most obvious place for McClain to take advice but if he had taken Kelly’s advice, he might be a lot better off today. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/30/3712206/tommy-kelly-tried-to-talk-rolando-mcclain-out-of-tirade-oakland-raiders
November 30th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Steve Corkran is now feeding Reggie grapes.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
675.Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
talk about ego….”im not approaching him…he can come talk to me…” meanwhile….more losing
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Better than coddling the guy and further encouraging slothfull and disrespectful behavior.
Coddling the last malcontent only encouraged JaBustus to expand his waistline.
Why should Reggie reach out to an overpaid check casher?
Rolando should come to him. But that would mean he actually cared about playing hard for the Raiders.
This Burris kid comes off the street and is 10x McClain and hsi bloated contract
November 30th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
If Reggie wants to tie his cart to a losing horse in DA, well he can bounce right with him.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Reggie brought some scrapsfor sure but the MAJORITY of the crap comes form years of missed 1st adn 2nd round picks, bad trades, and horrible FA signings.
What we are witnessing has MORE to do with the crap Al Davis built.
NO GM could fix this mess overnight.
here is where I put the blame:
80%- Al Davis and years of futile drafts, trades, and FA siginings
10%- Mark Davis for firing Hue Jackson
10%- reggie for hiring DA who hired Crapp as his OC.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
They must be getting into some heavy stuff.. because tweets have stop coming in.
Vic tafaur says more in a bit. STANDBYE
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Or they might have started setting up the projector…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
John David Booty
Playing Devil’s Advocate here with a splash of sarcasm…
If Mark wants to tie his cart to a losing horse in Reggie, well he can bounce with him.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Dan78
Man! Please let it be the projector!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
679.Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Reggie just keeps confirming what I have said all along.He is not quaified to be a gm.Terrible november.REALLY? UP to the players? Same players he brought here.ALL bums.
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No cap room because of all the check cashers on the payroll.
What if?
Seymour, Kelly, DMAC, DHB, McClain, Branch, Palmer all played to their paycheck? what if they were good to elite?
What would the record of the team be then?
Reggie brought in some filler. that’s about it. He made a whiff with Briesel…but they are not paying him top dollar.
Bartell and Spencer? That’s not a free agent bust that hurts the wallet.
Now deAngelo Hall and Javon Walker…now that’s a free agent bust for ya
November 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
““You gotta knock people off the ball,”
Fail.
That was occurring on a regular basis prior to your arrival in Oakland, Reggie.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Leadership takes responsibility….it does not look to deflect it…..
THE GM and the Head Coach have taken NONE…..while the Owner has….
We all have failings in life…..setbacks….but it takes a MAN to say “it’s my fault”….
Mark Davis has done this….can’t say the same of the others…..ALL THEY ARE A PAID EMPLOYEES….WORKING LIKE ANYONE ELSE….FOR MONEY….
These men are not loyal to the Raiders, they are loyal to what they ARE PAID…..
November 30th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Reggie is a liability.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
jackasspuria Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Dan78
Man! Please let it be the projector!
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In memory of AL
Long live the projector…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Dumb
November 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Reggie brought in some filler. that’s about it. He made a whiff with Briesel…but they are not paying him top dollar
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That’s the last time Reggie will take Knapp’s advice.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
In ALL reality the BLAME for the decision to hire McKenzie and by extension Coach Allen falls on Ron Wolf and John Madden…..
Hopefully next time MARK will make the CHOICE himself….at least that way….if it fails….he will know where to place the blame….
HOWEVER….
When it FLIES….he will get the CREDIT!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Jerry & Steve, must be over covering the UCLA vs. Stanford game..Probably have better free grub there..
November 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
reggie has failed?????
With what? Al Davis’s moronic drafts, FA signings, and trades??
I thought there were intelligent Football fans on here, I guess I was wrong???
November 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Iv said this more then once,..but look at the bright side,..you all finally got what youve wanted all your lives,..a GM. Merry Christmas.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
697.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Leadership takes responsibility….it does not look to deflect it…..
THE GM and the Head Coach have taken NONE…..while the Owner has….
We all have failings in life…..setbacks….but it takes a MAN to say “it’s my fault”….
Mark Davis has done this….can’t say the same of the others…..ALL THEY ARE A PAID EMPLOYEES….WORKING LIKE ANYONE ELSE….FOR MONEY….
These men are not loyal to the Raiders, they are loyal to what they ARE PAID…..
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They are loyal to succeeding. JaBustus was loyal to being paid…Kiffin was loyal to using the Raiders as a stepping stone…..
Reggie and DA are trying to fix this mess….
The roster was what it was. There was no room and players have let them down. Missing assignments and gap control..
I am sure there will be coaching changes to the assistants.
But the “leadership” is responsible by definition.
I have no problem with Reggie calling out these sloppy and shoddy players.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
reggie is the idiot we thought he was…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I thought Reggie was a big dummy til he finally started taking out the trash,..Im fine with him now,..and also because I know the takin out the trash has just begun. Word.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Stop dreaming of last year too.
Freekn Tim Tebow took over a listless team mid-season and got them to the playoffs because the division and the schedule was so decrepit.
Raiders couldn’t beat Tim Tebow and his circular arm motion.
Give me a freekn break
November 30th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
697.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Leadership takes responsibility….it does not look to deflect it…..
THE GM and the Head Coach have taken NONE…..while the Owner has….
We all have failings in life…..setbacks….but it takes a MAN to say “it’s my fault”….
Mark Davis has done this….can’t say the same of the others…..ALL THEY ARE A PAID EMPLOYEES….WORKING LIKE ANYONE ELSE….FOR MONEY….
These men are not loyal to the Raiders, they are loyal to what they ARE PAID…..
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They are loyal to succeeding. JaBustus was loyal to being paid…Kiffin was loyal to using the Raiders as a stepping stone…..
Reggie and DA are trying to fix this mess….
The roster was what it was. There was no room and players have let them down. Missing assignments and gap control..
I am sure there will be coaching changes to the assistants.
But the “leadership” is responsible by definition.
I have no problem with Reggie calling out these sloppy and shoddy players.
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Reggie worked for the Packers just months ago…..and Allen worked for the Broncos and New Orleans and Atlanta prior to that…..
Neither is LOYAL….to anything but the MONEY!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Just fire yourself fat face
November 30th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
708.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I thought Reggie was a big dummy til he finally started taking out the trash,..Im fine with him now,..and also because I know the takin out the trash has just begun. Word.
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and the trash needs to go. If he just gets that done that will be an accomplishment.
Gotta a lot of players on this roster hiding, getting bye and collecting a check.
When is the highest paid DT going to get back on the field?
Is DMAC ready from his quarterly break?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie would’t go into who’s safe and who’s not until after season-long evaluation is over, but made clear he has input on coaching staff
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Grumpy, thoughts? lol
November 30th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
reggie is the idiot we thought he was…
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Who drafted McClain?
Who traded for SeyMour??
Al Davis’s stank continues and it will take a few more years for the stench to leave. This current team is further proof of how pathetic Al Davis was as a GM and he ran this franchise into the ground!!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Thanks all day for the tweets
November 30th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Reggie has kicked off Rolando,..(suspended two games then sat the final two, then released)…next will be Kelly,…then Seymour…then about evey O lineman not named Valdeer and Lil Wiz…Mitchell,…look you guys need to buckle up,…next year will resemble this one a lot…hang in there til 2014. Word.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
303Raider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
reggie is the idiot we thought he was…
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Who drafted McClain?
Who traded for SeyMour??
Al Davis’s stank continues and it will take a few more years for the stench to leave. This current team is further proof of how pathetic Al Davis was as a GM and he ran this franchise into the ground!!
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Al Davis built the franchise…..so what’s your point?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Reg isn’t going to throw coaches under the bus.
But he knows that his staff has failed in a lot of respects.
How could he not?
More or less the same players that went 8-8 last year.
I mean Greg F’in Knapp??
November 30th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
716.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Reggie has kicked off Rolando,..(suspended two games then sat the final two, then released)…next will be Kelly,…then Seymour…then about evey O lineman not named Valdeer and Lil Wiz…Mitchell,…look you guys need to buckle up,…next year will resemble this one a lot…hang in there til 2014. Word.
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This is reality!
Guys can only hide so long
November 30th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Reggie McKenzie said he knew coming in team had no depth — “we couldn’t afford to lose one player (in offseason), not one.”
k lunch break must be over
November 30th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Reggie can only hide so long.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
My Point is we ALL wanted a GM, and he needs time to rebuild this pathetic roster full of overpaid checkcashers and morons like McClain.
We were all fooled with the 8-8 last year and soem thought we could contend for the SB, lol.
Sure reggie has made mistakes, hiring DA and some of his scrap heap, 1 yr deal players were low risk and the Carson Palmer trade did not help.
He needs help and time especially inheriting the worst situation in the NFL!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie said Michael Huff is definitely a safety and not a cornerback in Raiders’ long-term plans
November 30th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
reggie players…lol….lee, adams, bartell, spencer, briesel, hanson, burris, bergstrom…lol if you can call them players. salary cap salary cap go ahead sirens go off…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie: “We’re going to upgrade at a lot of positions.”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Reggie McKenzie said he knew coming in team had no depth — “we couldn’t afford to lose one player (in offseason), not one.”
k lunch break must be over
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Does Reggie realize that this is football….and that people get injured?
Excuses excuses….
Where are the I/MY statements Reggie?
I take responsibility.
I will fix this.
It’s MY job to get these men to do their jobs.
November 30th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
go ahead call them upgrades…lol 3-8…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Hanson is actually a good player. That lil necca has heart
November 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Ouch!
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Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL 12m
Where is Richard Seymour, the highest paid player on defense and the team’s so-called defensive leader in all of this?
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John Dickinson
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@ChrisHansenNFL never practicing, collecting his check. Showing up w/2-3 good games a year. Talking like he’s a leader to media w/o action
10:38pm Fri Nov 30
November 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
what happened to this is a playoff roster?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
how many pics does hanson have?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I thought Reggie was a big dummy til he finally started taking out the trash,..Im fine with him now,..and also because I know the takin out the trash has just begun. Word.
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Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie: “We’re going to upgrade at a lot of positions.”
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WORD is RIGHT
November 30th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
724.Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
reggie players…lol….lee, adams, bartell, spencer, briesel, hanson, burris, bergstrom…lol if you can call them players. salary cap salary cap go ahead sirens go off…
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Al_is_theraiders,
No money man. The only other alternative would have been to re-do the oppressive contracts and push out the money owed guys like Wimbley, Routt (out of the league), Seymour, Kelly, Palmer and DHB into the future years.
But that would increase the burden in the out years because when you restructure, you usually have to throw in a bonus and maybe more guaranteed money.
Seriously, these guys aren’t worth what they are getting now.
There was NO MONEY to sign impact free agents. None!
And Free agents want to play for you too. I doubt the Raiders were the #1 destination for any top flight free agent
November 30th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
alright lets get the excuses rollin reggie…they fit you like the 4xx suit…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
how many forced fumbles? the only guy at corner i see making plays. Did u not just see what he did to 6ft 2 Cincy reciever SANU.. that the refs f’d up??
When is the last time Routt or Asomugha did something like that?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I love how OUR owner stood up in front of a number of media people AFTER a game in which we were BLOWN out at HOME and talked to the media on CAMERA…..
No scripts…..and just answered questions honestly…everything was on the record….
Now LOOK at our GENERAL MANAGER….just like a politician….
He has to schedule an interview a week in advance….NO CAMERA’S…..
COWARD!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Good evening fellers!
Any word from the Gut?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie has seen some players with leadership qualities start to emerge but there are no dynamic presences on Raiders
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Word reggie! Jarvis Jones, MOORE, TE’o n TEBOW and Tyrann Mathieu will be a good way to start this
November 30th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Spray that blame canon everywhere Reggie. it’s not your fault at all right?
November 30th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
sorry but no $ excuse is old and tired…never was a problem before….at worse reggieis incompetant of handling a nfl teams finances…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Asked Reggie McKenzie if it was one action or a series of actions that led to Rolando McClain’s suspension: http://sulia.com/c/football/f/1cb9a094-88a6-4192-8112-91c555ccdcc5/?source=twitter …
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
McKenzie said Michael Huff is definitely a safety and not a cornerback in Raiders’ long-term plans
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
McKenzie: “We’re going to upgrade at a lot of positions.”
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Part of changing culture here, McKenzie said, is getting players 2 be leaders and hold others accountable. “Can’t say I had that coming in”
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
McKenzie has seen some players with leadership qualities start to emerge but there are no dynamic presences on Raiders
November 30th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Next 5 games, McKenzie wants team “to play well, not give up big runs.” Isn’t that tall order based on last 4 games, I asked. “No, it’s not”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
736.. Exactly ..Reggie is dodging all the responsibility here
November 30th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
hanson is better than bartell? what does that say about the coaches? One is playing corner for the first time in the nfl and routt has more picks than all three if those guys combined…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Next 5 games, McKenzie wants team “to play well, not give up big runs.” Isn’t that tall order based on last 4 games, I asked. “No, it’s not”
November 30th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
736.. Exactly ..Reggie is dodging all the responsibility here
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He is preparing to get fired….and look to continue his career elsewhere…
I wish him luck!
November 30th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
at least tafur is questioning him…
November 30th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Really there is nothing “big” that he is saying.
Either that or the reporters are not asking tough questons
November 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
New Era of Excellence MY ASS!
Bring back COMMITMENT to EXCELLENCE!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I don’t mind any of the blame he’s putting on als players.. but his dumb fùck coaches started this mess. Don’t forget to point the finger at yourself fat face
November 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
Does Reggie realize that this is football….and that people get injured?
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And the teams without depth suffer when those injuries hit. That’s what he was saying.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
FYI….the only reason he is even doing an interview is because MARK spoke to the media last week….he feels obligated in outside circles….as NFL eyes are watching!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
how many passes do the coaches get? 1 blowout? 2? 3? 4? all back to back? maybe blackouts? 1? working on more….
November 30th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
McKenzie explained cutting CB Pat Lee 3 games ago — He was just a guy “to get you by games,” wasn’t dominant, didn’t help on special teams
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WOW finally some juice
November 30th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
McKenzie explained cutting CB Pat Lee 3 games ago — He was just a guy “to get you by games,” wasn’t dominant, didn’t help on special teams
November 30th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Hanson is a good slot corner, but he’s horrible on the outside.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
he hasnt been playin the outside
November 30th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
McKenzie explained cutting CB Pat Lee 3 games ago — He was just a guy “to get you by games,” wasn’t dominant, didn’t help on special teams
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Pay attention “PLAYERS” looking to sign with OAKLAND…..Reggie has your back!
NOT!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
McKenzie explained cutting CB Pat Lee 3 games ago — He was just a guy “to get you by games,” wasn’t dominant, didn’t help on special teams
yeah thats gonna get players to play here…..
November 30th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
Mike Mitchell spoke glowingly about #Raiders new MLB Omar Gaither “He communicates great, he’s lively at practice… a breath of fresh air.”
November 30th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
adams helps on special teams….the opposing ones…
November 30th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Reggie, just stop. You say you knew coming in that you were thin, however, thats not what you said when you first came here, in fact quite the opposite. You said that you had a team that could win the division. So, which is it? Were you lying then, or now? Also, if you knew coming in that we didnt have much depth, what did you do about it? You got rid of Wimbley, Routt, Bush, etc., but what did you do with the extra cap space? Jack sh!t. If you knew the depth was so bad, why not do anything about it? Just stop it. The truth is, you wanted your guy, him and his staff have stunk up the place, and the players you signed have been above average (Wheeler) to down right garbage (Briesel). And your draft, sorry, but it wasnt much better than our last 3 drafts from rounds 3 and down. Bergstrom has done squat, Burris has been OK, Criner, has hands, but this staff doesnt know what to even do with a big body WR, theyve proven as much. Jack Crawford? Please. Bilukidi? Please? Nathan Stupar, GTFOH! Reggie, youre making excuses now.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
TRANSCRIPT OF PRESSER
ALAMEDA — Raiders first-year general manager Reggie McKenzie sat down with seven writers in a closed, round-table, state-of-the-team question-and-answer session at team headquarters Friday, and addressed issues from the team’s poor play and 3-8 record to his expectations for the season to the two-game suspension handed to middle linebacker Rolando McClain earlier in the day.
The Q&A lasted 42 minutes. Following then, a transcript of the sit down with McKenzie…
Question: How frustrating has this been for you to see this team that has not met your hopes or expectations?
Answer: I mean, you know, going into this thing from the offseason, I knew what road was in front of me and how we had to attack this thing. And as we all know, it’s been well-documented, mostly by you guys, about what I had in front of me, including the players and coaches, what we all had in store. Now, with that being said, when Mark Davis and I began this quest, and talked about the future of the Raiders, and that’s my ultimate goal, is to build this thing, into a consistent playoff contender and a Super Bowl winner. And we both agreed that we’re going to build this thing the right way. Now, going into this training camp, I liked the prospects of the way it was going. I knew where the talent level was, and I knew we didn’t have depth to lose players, not one, because I knew it was going to be a drop off. That’s without a doubt. But to be where we are now, at 3-8, disappointing. And that’s, you know, don’t want to be here. I know the fans are not happy, I’m not happy, the coaches, I know the players are not happy. Nobody wants to be, you know, this was a terrible November. This November was just, I mean, it’s a bad November. Now, you kind of knew, in September, beginning of the season, going to struggle a little bit. But the November part of the season has not been good at all. And that cannot continue to happen. And it’s our job to fix it, starting with me. Player-wise, and the coaches trying to get the situations fixed. You guys see it. Big plays kill us on defense. It’s hard to win when you’re giving up big plays on defense. It’s hard to win on defense that way. So, to answer your question, I was not looking at this as being a, at this point, 3-8. At this point. No.
Q: Played great game at Atlanta but since then, been a cliff dive. How does that happen?
A: If I could put my finger on it, I would fix it myself. But, when you look at tape, how we attacked Atlanta, how we stopped the run, how we did not give up big runs. When you count the number of big plays in that game, you can start with that, and how we played on defense. That’s why we were in that game. But since then, if you look at game by game, and see the big plays, now, our D-line is not getting knocked around the ball. We’re stout up front. But when you talk about run game, run defense, the one thing that you worry about is getting knocked around up front. And our guys are not. But the bottom line is, the gaps. I mean, yeah, that’s fixable, but you can’t let it happen. So, that’s part of it right there. That and a big pass play, especially on third down, when you think you can get off the field. Too many of those since then. Especially in November.
Q: Gaps a coaching issue, disconnect with the scheme and the players? What have you seen as being the problem?
A: Well, seeing that I’ve played, I know some of my responsibilities and you watch practice, a lot of that is on the players — just do your job. Just do your job. You can’t, if you’re going to attack, shed off the block, be responsible for this gap. And it’s been preached — this is your job, this is your gap. Most of it is that…Now sometimes I’m sure certain plays call for whether it’s a slant, whether it’s this. Now that’s a call. A guy, you call a play, are you slanting, are you blitzing? Maybe that takes them out because whether we weren’t good enough to beat a guy across his face or whether it wasn’t the right call at that time. But for the most part it’s just being able to do our job. So you can live with that because you can fix it. You can coach it up and say, hey, you know what you did. The ‘My Bads’ get kind of old after a while, you know.
Q: They’ve been talking about gap discipline here for years, so is it something that’s innate with the players? Warren Sapp complained about it when he was here.
A: Everybody wants to make a play so you try to beat a guy around the opposite way. I understand that. But from a consistent basis, the guy nexta to you or the guy behind you, everybody has to be on the same page. You spoke of Warren Sapp but I’m pretty sure his teammates knew what he may do so you have to compensate for that. But is it innate? I couldn’t tell you that. Now you know some players get used to what they do, yeah. But that’s what this whole my quest to change the culture of this thing … that part of it you can’t just change overnight because you can’t just change a guy. Some guys you just can’t change.
Q: What kind of job has Dennis done?
A: I’m still pleased with Dennis. It’s like, I’m a rookie in this thing, Dennis is a rookie in this thing. So I’m sure he has some rookie mistakes but overall I’m happy with Dennis.
Q: So no matter what he’s safe for next year?
A: You know what guys? Players, coaches, my scouts, I don’t care, the equipment guy, I’m not going to get after … from a standpoint of who’s safe, who’s in or out. I don’t like to discuss anything during the season. It’s my job to evaluate this team, and that’s done on a weekly basis, so at the end of this thing I have my evaluation of not only coach Allen but every player and my thoughts of every coach. But that’s a season evaluation. That’s what I feel about that.
Q: You talked about it being a long road to building a competitive team. In what areas are you further along on that road?
A: You’re talking about from a players standpoint or organization? Well it was my number one job really to get what I feel is the backbone of the football team, my scouting department. I think I’m further along in that area than anything else.
Q: Have you moved further along in terms of the roster? Do you feel you’re closer to having a competitive roster than you were when you got here?
A: When I got here? When I got here it was millions and millions of dollars over the cap. I’m trying to figure out how to make these decisions from a cap standpoint. When that plays such a role into your decision-making … some players you would like to keep if you have the money. But in the beginning of my statement when I talked about here’s what you dealt with, Mark told me, ‘Here’s what we got. Here’s what we’re going to have to deal with for this first year. Here’s your draft picks, here’s the money.’ Totally understand that. Now it’s my job to figure out how you’re going to manipulate it. Am I further along? Yes. We’re under the cap, we trimmed the guys that we had to. But guys, this thing is going forward. We’re going to get better from here on out, especially in the player personnel department. That’s my quest and we get on that, really, on a weekly basis.
Q: When do you step in on a player like Rolando?
A: I step in from point one. Dennis and I talk on a daily basis numerous times and I talk to Mark on a every other day basis all the time. We’re all communicated and all on the same page. Everything that came out of his mouth I could have repeated it also. Coach Allen is the guy who will have to be in front of that team. I want him to be in charge of those players.
Q: Will Dennis evaluate assistant coaches after season?
A: He is going to have an evaluation, absolutely. Am I going to have an evaluation also, absolutely. Absolutely.
Q: The call for the staff will be his?
A: With my input. You’re talking about scheme and all that. I want to know everybody who is on the short list, long list. That’s just the way it goes guys. This is my football team. It’s not a dictatorship by any means but it’s my football team and I’m responsible. We have a great line of communication so that’s not going to be an issue guys, at all. It really isn’t. It’s my job to evaluate the situation and I’m going to get that done. We’re going to do it the right way. I can’t build a team without effectively evaluating what’s going on. You have to do it the right way, week to week. That’s why the month of November … we have five weeks to correct that. I’ll be doing some evaluations in those five weeks.
Q: Any regrets not leaving offense alone since zone blocking didn’t work so well?
A: When you’re talk about leaving the offense be you’re talking leaving all the coaches be and you’re saying that’s going to guarantee the same results. You don’t know that. Whether it’s power scheme, zone scheme, tome it’s all about knocking people off the ball, winning battles up front. I don’t care what kind of scheme it is. Either it’s a good run call or a bad run call. It comes down to those type of things instead of just scheme. You have to mix it up, which we have been doing, especially as of late. Players got to win some battles too, physically.
Q: How would you characterize Mark Davis’ level of frustration?
A: Like I said at the beginning, Mark and I talk all the time. The bottom line is we want to see progress. That November month nobody was pleased with. Nobody. He and I discussed that quite a bit trying to put the finger on it. But we want to see better play. We have five games to do it.
Q: Do you now have cap flexibility to make moves you need to in offseason?
A: Some yeah. We should be in good enough situation to do some things. To do a lot of great things? We don’t have great room but we’ve got … Guys I mean what happened this offseason I don’t’ wish that on anybody, maybe the other teams in our division. That was a struggle, especially coming in here as a rookie GM. I remember talking to Ted Thompson. His rookie year he was able to get Charles Woodson. I would have liked to have done that. I talked to guys all around the league. I didn’t realize what the situation, how difficult and what other people thought about it. When you get the job people call and say, ‘What are you going to do with that cap? You’re all what over the cap. How are you going to do that?’ We can get it done because you got to. But they didn’t want to wish that on me. But guys, that part right there I’m not crying over spilled milk. That’s no excuse to have a November because of some of the things we put forth and the way we played in Atlanta. It shows what the players can do, without a doubt. From a consistency thing, finishing drives. Defensively it was probably more disappointing because of the number of big plays time and time. After you stop them and have a great play, good play, then all of a sudden wham. Seven points. Easy. Kind of knocked the wind out of you, especially a team like this. We’re not at that level where we can continue to overcome time and time again.
Q: How much does it hurt that you don’t have an elite pass rusher and how much of a priority will that be?
A: Two things — I want to win up front, and that’s on both sides of the ball, with the big boys, but also I want to somehow affect the quarterback position and that’s by with good coverage, and corners and a free safety that’s going to pick ‘em off, or with somebody hitting them upside the head. Pass rush. A good push up the middle and somebody he’s going to be scared of. We’re going try and get, guys, we’re going to try and upgrade at a lot of positions, depth-wise, and get some impact players. That’s going to be on me.
Q: Such a big emphasis in getting guys that you looked inside of and knew they loved football, that it was important to them. Do you think you have close to 53 guys like that? In that area are you pleased?
A: I hope that the guys come to that. I can’t say that everybody’s just totally like that, no. I really don’t think there’s an NFL team that has 53 guys like that. But the bottom line is that you have the majority of them like that and you’ve go the leadership that is strong that way, so when you’ve got some that deviate, then you’ve got a leader that can get ‘em in check and show ‘em this is the right way to do it. This is how we do it here. So when you look at a Ray Lewis, you can pretty much bet whether it’s a defensive player who’s not totally into it the way he is, I doubt if he’d show it much. You know what I’m saying? Your surroundings. That’s what we’ve got to build. That’s part of the whole culture thing as far as, do you have a coach saying, `don’t do this.’ You don’t want that. You want the players to doggone take it upon themselves and run it. We’re not at that level.
Q: Did you think coming in you had more of those kinds of guys, surprised at the lack of that this year?
A: You scout guys from other times and you hear about stuff. So I knew some of the players who were in those leadership positions, but I’ve been around the LeRoy Butlers and the Reggie Whites and the Brett Favres, you’re talking about natural leaders that the team is going to do it that way. I can’t say that I had that. Knowing that coming in, no one came to me and told me, hey, you got a great leader in that, no, so to answer that question, no, I didn’t know going in that I had a bunch of great leaders, no, I didn’t.
Q: How about now? Have any emerged that you’ve noticed?
A: I’ve seen some guys show with some leadership qualities now. Sometimes when you’ve got a guy, who we suspended, being in that position, and calling plays at the beginning and during the offseason, and it’s hard for other to emerge that way. But then you’ve got new players, and you’ve got a guy you trade for in Carson Palmer, coming in at midseason last year trying to be an offensive leader, the dynamics, you’ve got to build the thing right.When you look at the whole package with Rolando, what you’ve seen on tape this year, what happened just recently, are you comfortable with what he’s done? What’s your overall take on the big picture with Rolando and can he come back to this team and be on this team in the future and fill one of those leadership roles?”No. 1, from a leadership standpoint, you cannot do what he did and call yourself a leader. Period. Now, what to do with him afterwards, you’re talking about post-suspension, we’ll let that play out. I don’t want to make a decision or announcement at this time. But, you know, it’s not good to act and do what he did.
Q: What about what he’s done in the games? What’s your evaluation of him in the games?
A: That’s another thing. From the evaluation standpoint, be it players and coaches, I really want to talk about that at the season’s end because we still pretty much got a third of the season to play. I’m looking forward to seeing Omar Gaither in there and I want to see how he runs this team and plays in the middle. But I’ve had 11 games to evaluate Rolando up close. We’ll finish that up at the end.
Q: Can you look at a guy like Wheeler, who you got at a pretty decent price for a one-year contract — will you look to target guys to bring back, maybe before the end of the season, not necessarily him. Or will you wait until after the season?
A: Without getting into which players and all that, yes, we are targeting. That’s part of my deal, that’s what I want to try to do, is to target and see how we can work it. But, yes, we are kind of targeting certain guys. We have quite a few free agents. We’re going to try to target and see who we can get done before the league year (ends) or even before the season. But yes, we are targeting guys.
Q: Do you guys view Michael Huff as a cornerback long-term?
A: No, he’s a safety. I didn’t have a lot of corners to begin with. We had at the start of the season one guy, two guys that were here last year. Michael Huff just gave us the ability because of his skill level, athleticism, he was our best option to do that with.
Q: Is it important to you to see Terrelle Pryor play before the end of the year? Do you care?
A: I care because that’s the only way I can evaluate him, is to play him. Now, when he plays, how much he plays, that will be a charge to the coaching staff, but yes. We’ve got a third of the season left, and this is a good time to try to figure out what works best for him.
Q: What would be a successful season for you with a third of the season left?
A: I want us to not only play well in the last five games. You can go down — defense, I don’t want to give up big runs. That means our gap control has gotten to a minimum as far as making mistakes. Now if a guy breaks a tackle, you know, that’s just there guy’s better than our guy. And I’m fine with that. But to give them stuff. We’re not good enough to just give guys, let alone points, but just to give them big plays like that. I’m looking for the offense to not just move the ball but score some points, get better in red zone, get better on third down, keep the chains moving, score points. More consistent special teams play, especially in coverage. I’m looking for a lot of things, but I’m looking for some wins.
Q: Is this where you find out when it’s 3-8 and five games to go when you’re evaluating who really wants to play?
A: Who really wants to play, who really wants to be a Raider, who’s going to play Raider football. I’m talking each and every one of us, coaches and players.
Q: Is that a tall order to ask them to play well based upon how the last four games went?
A: No. It really isn’t. It really isn’t. Some of the guys physically are beat up. It might be pushing it, pushing those guys when you’re talking about playing well. They’re fighting through some injuries and some hurts. But no, it’s not a tall order.
Q: How do players play well against Atlanta and then not take same approach and play poorly week after week?
A: I don’t know. When a guy sees, I played this defense this way and this is what happened … can I guarantee that player will say that every game? It’s hard to say yes because I don’t think … I know I don’t have a handle on how or what Miles Burris is going to play this action or how Rolando is going to fit this run. It’s hard to say who’s going to do it the right way all the time. It’s the coaches’ job to point it out and make him do it the right way. So, now … I wish I had a whole lot of depth to rotate and figure out who can do it better, but we’re limited. From a standpoint of injuries make the rotation thinner. Guys, it’s the coaches job to coach them and the players’ job to do what they coach. It really is.
Q: Have you been resistant to pick up free agents? Is that a philosophy or is that a cap thing?
A: No, the philosophy is to upgrade your roster. Did I think some of those guys would upgrade us on the field … Guys, I research everything. Before Babin’s name hit the fan, I researched it. I looked at the tape. I researched everything and made the call. That’s my call.
Q: Is it possible Rolando has played his last game?
A: It’s going to be a possibility because we suspended him. Now, it’s always what’s going to happen afterward. What’s his approach afterward? I know what he texted, Facebooked or all that stuff … What he said, that he’s gone. I think I am the one that is going to make that call, not him.
Q: Have you talked with him since this all went down?
A: No.
Q: Do you feel the need to?
A: Absolutely not.
Q: Does he have to say anything or demonstrate anything to the coaches?
A: Yeah, yeah. It’s going to be on him. I don’t feel the need to approach him. So far, he is not apologetic.
Q: Was there one action or a series of actions?
A: His suspension .. doesn’t mean this is the first time … ‘ooh’ We wouldn’t suspend him unless it was something major, including all that stuff off the field and on the field and all that. I think a two-game suspension pretty much says it’s an issue.
Q: Was Pat Lee cut based on play or was that a warning/message to other players?
A: Pat Lee understands the defense and the one thing he could do is come in there and get you by games. From a need, I felt, what we really needed from a totality standpoint – special teams play – we needed productive play in all areas. So with Ron coming back, I felt like we had our season-opening starter coming back and those two kind of cancelled out to me. Now, I wish Pat Lee was more dominant and helped us out a little more on special teams. To his credit, he was kind of beat up physically too.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/QA-with-Raiders-General-Manager-Reggie-M?blockID=808295&feedID=7638
November 30th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Too many closet Niners fans in here on a regular basis. Apparent reading all the Alex Smith love, and the general use of “you guys” when discussing the Raiders.
As others have pointed out, Alex Smith isn’t a QB to bank on. Harbaugh knows it too that Kaepernick speeded up to overtake him.
Some have said, it would be stupid to acquire Alex Smith. And they are right, but this regime has precedence of making stupid decisions. Hopefully, that isn’t one of them.
Reggie still trying to deflect blame/error from himself and Allen/coaching staff. Which is also kinda weird given that Reggie has brought in about half the roster, so he doesn’t realize he’s pointing out he sucks too.
If McClain and Kelly are unhappy with Allen, it can snowball. Or it shows there’s probably far more players who are unhappy and not willing to play for Allen. Reggie might compound this problem by trying to gut the entire roster of anti-Allen players, instead of fixing the problem of replacing coaches. You don’t gut an entire roster to protect your hand-picked HC from blame.
Under Reggie and Allen the regression is a bad indication so far of their respective abilities. The situation remains in flux tho…things can change and improve. 2013 at most. But if sweeping changes are not made in the coaching staff below Allen, I don’t hold out much hope that 2013 is any better, and it’s possible Reg and Allen could be driven out of Oakland end of 2013.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/QA-with-Raiders-General-Manager-Reggie-M?blockID=808295&feedID=7638
November 30th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Next time don’t just hire friends and family idiots
November 30th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
exactly 762….exactly
November 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Reggie, just stop. You say you knew coming in that you were thin, however, thats not what you said when you first came here, in fact quite the opposite. You said that you had a team that could win the division. So, which is it? Were you lying then, or now? Also, if you knew coming in that we didnt have much depth, what did you do about it? You got rid of Wimbley, Routt, Bush, etc., but what did you do with the extra cap space? Jack sh!t. If you knew the depth was so bad, why not do anything about it? Just stop it. The truth is, you wanted your guy, him and his staff have stunk up the place, and the players you signed have been above average (Wheeler) to down right garbage (Briesel). And your draft, sorry, but it wasnt much better than our last 3 drafts from rounds 3 and down. Bergstrom has done squat, Burris has been OK, Criner, has hands, but this staff doesnt know what to even do with a big body WR, theyve proven as much. Jack Crawford? Please. Bilukidi? Please? Nathan Stupar, GTFOH! Reggie, youre making excuses now.
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Deny deny deny….
Qualities of a Great LEADER!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Reggie is a bust.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Reggie is dropping some Napalm. Bet he’s already bought a pressure washer, and a pallet of Lysol from Costco, to cleanse the locker room. Starting Dec, 31st…
November 30th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
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November 30th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
it’s interesting how every real raider fan knows all too well that a roster full of coddled players is not a recipe for success, yet there are tons of posters in here siding with the coddled players against the regime that is trying to change the dysfunctional culture.
feel free to jump on the 9er bandwagon anytime.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Papovich hit with $250K fine. WOW
November 30th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Reggie is a bust.
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Huge bust. Already making excuses and changing up his story about what he said about the roster coming into this. I was initially excited to see where this guy might take things, but Im extremely disappointed by the product, and even more so by these excuses. Just a shame, really.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Also bottom line is REGGIE is not gonna talk about players or coaches till the end of the season.
There is still 5 games to play. MAJOR CHANGES COMING
November 30th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
If Reggie McKenzie is a bust, that makes Mark Davis a colossal bust for hiring the guy.
Sure, you can point to Davis getting info from various Raider legends like Madden and Wolf, however, it was Mark that green-lighted the McKenzie hire.
The venom being spewed no Reggie should be also poured on Davis.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Not happy with Reggie’s press conference. He continues to deflect blame, and not own up to mistakes. And throwing players under the bus himself (eg, Pat Lee) is not going to win over FAs. For him to try to defend Allen/coaches dismal performances and say he’s happy, doesn’t inspire confidence in his abilities as a GM.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
From BSPN:
“McClain went on his Facebook page Wednesday and said he was no longer a Raider, and wrote that he wanted to play for a “real team.” That did not please teammates, and if McClain ever does get back into the Oakland locker room, it may be a cold place for him.”
Please stop fantasizing about the Kelly/McClain nuptials guys, both are douchebag scholarship recipients who will not have any future impact in this league.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I told everybody this idiot was full of sht the day they announced Krapp and the zoneblocking scheme.9th ranked offense,8-8 to 3-8 and getting blown out every fkn game.What a piece of sht!!!! Playoffs? Nice call bottom lip.Get the fk out!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Time to cut the crust off this shìt sandwitch…
November 30th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“I definitely think we have the makeup of being a playoff team” – Reggie McKenzie July 26, 2012
November 30th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
for the record, i’m not defending reggie, just pointing out that McClain will not be missed, and I don’t think his dismissal is an indictment against the current regime.
there is plenty of other evidence with which to question their competence though.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
I dont view things that way i take the wholistic (afrikan) view
you have a fragmented (eurocentric) view
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Wow.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Wow.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Now it’s my job to figure out how you’re going to manipulate it” like i said incompetant…he has to massage the numbers just doesnt know how to do it…
November 30th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Hey Reggie:
“you’re gonna need a bigger boat”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8
November 30th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
785. Exactly the cap is only a problem for those who don’t understand how to bend it to their will..
Yr 1.. reggies players, coaches and cap management….fail
November 30th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Catching Up
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Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: Raiders 41 Saints 35
GG Says: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Just Fire Baby Says: Raiders 34 Saints 31
MiamiRaider78 Says: Saints 61 Raiders 2
Plunketthead Says: Raiders 31 swamp zombies 24
qodrn: Raiders 35 Saints 32
r8eray Says: 42-28 Aints
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: Aints 45 Raiders 24
RaiderCrunch Says: Raiders 51 Saints 48
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 63 New Orleans 60
November 30th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
If the free fall ends at 3-13 Mark will have no choice but to admit his mistake and can Reggie’s A$$.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
I was at a sports bar last weekend watching the Raiders game. I over heard this guy taking so much smack on the Raiders. He said “Raiders suck I have more respect for the chargers then that shi organization and the no playoff streak continues. Raiders are such a joke” I found out that guy was a Denver fan LMAO!!! What nerve man! how can you talk smack when your own team has 0 rings WOW!!
Peace Nation
November 30th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Reggie has shown a lot of his character. I can easily see him throwing DA under the bus after we lose the next 5 games, just to make himself look better. DA has sucked immensely and should be fired, yes, but Reggie is full of excuses and we havent even hit the end of the season. I heard no hope or anything to be excited about from that presser. Reggie is looking like a huge fraud right about now. At the end of the day, Im a Raiders fan and want them to win. But at this point, I dont think we have the right guys running the ship to make that happen. So disappointing.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: To be reconstructed when I feel better
qodrn: Raiders 24 Other team 21
November 30th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
I love the Raider Nation. The 49er fans just whine when the team looses. Raider Nation folks rebuild the team and make sure the Raiders know what to fix just in case they missed it.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
OneRaiderNation Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“I definitely think we have the makeup of being a playoff team” – Reggie McKenzie July 26, 2012
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Great journalism by the reporters who failed to call him on this, after his claim that he knew we were so thin before he got started. If he would have got up there and took responsibility for things, laid a clear plan for improvement, I would have respected Reggie more. I have lost a lot what little respect I had for him as a GM after this excuse-fest.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
771.J-Raider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
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November 30th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Um teezoo.. denver has rings..
November 30th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
OneRaiderNation Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“I definitely think we have the makeup of being a playoff team” – Reggie McKenzie July 26, 2012
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Reggie was just trying to sell tickets, like every team tries to do in July..
“I see an 3-8 team, getting it’s ass kicked up and down the field, by the end of November”. Won’t have people lining up at the box office….
November 30th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Bottom lip says”this is my football team” I think somebody should explain to this tard that this is Mark Davis’s football team.See SHEEEEEEEET
November 30th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Colts cheerleaders shaving their heads… gross
November 30th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
So Reggie calls a press conference just to lay out a bunch of excuses and to renege on his initial proclamations? This was lame on so many levels. This is how our organization is being run now? And some of you believe these guys are going to get us to a SB in 3 years? Man, I hope youre right and Im wrong. As a Raiders fan, Id rather be wrong and have them win than they lose and me be right. But if Im just being honest, I dont see winners in these guys. I dont see a winner in Reggies excuses, I dont see a winner with DAs style of coaching. I see this getting worse, right before it finally peaks at 8-8 in 3 years. Right back where we started.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
What was Mckenzie supposed to say before the season?
Guys, this team has no leaders and no depth on the roster to smell the playoffs.
lol
Last year is last year. Revisiting it only makes us frustrated in thinking what could have been….It’s over with.
Time to move on and hope Reggie and co make the right moves to make this team competitive.
Reggie isn’t going anywhere.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
I see Steve is taking his sweet time.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: Raiders 41 Saints 35
AAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA.He also predicted playoffs like his hero Reggie.Dumber than a sack of hammers.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
F-it..Time for an ice COLD beer or eight…..
Take care, all……
November 30th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
801.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
What was Mckenzie supposed to say before the season?
Guys, this team has no leaders and no depth on the roster to smell the playoffs.
lol
Last year is last year. Revisiting it only makes us frustrated in thinking what could have been….It’s over with.
Time to move on and hope Reggie and co make the right moves to make this team competitive.
Reggie isn’t going anywhere.
He is going to fired smart guy.You can go with him please.THANKS snapperhead
November 30th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
I see Steve is taking his sweet time.
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What’s new, this is the reason they gave Jerry the print job and demoted Cork to the blog
November 30th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
You guys that posted links to the questions to Reggie… Thanks…
November 30th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Corky can’t hold Jerry’s jock.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
This is my football team.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
What was Mckenzie supposed to say before the season?
Guys, this team has no leaders and no depth on the roster to smell the playoffs.
lol
Last year is last year. Revisiting it only makes us frustrated in thinking what could have been….It’s over with.
Time to move on and hope Reggie and co make the right moves to make this team competitive.
Reggie isn’t going anywhere.
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He might not be going anywhere, but he damn sure hasnt given anyone anything to be hopeful about.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Oakfoshow,
I see your meds have been working ever since you changed your handle. Good job man!
November 30th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Reggie should have put his foot down and not allowed nap 2 go with a strict ZBS to start the season…
November 30th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Now you know some players get used to what they do, yeah. But that’s what this whole my quest to change the culture of this thing … that part of it you can’t just change overnight because you can’t just change a guy. Some guys you just can’t change.
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Tommy Kelly, you listening?
November 30th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
One more. Then beer time!
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Mike Mitchell spoke glowingly about #Raiders new MLB Omar Gaither “He communicates great, he’s lively at practice… a breath of fresh air.”
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November 30th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
813.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Now you know some players get used to what they do, yeah. But that’s what this whole my quest to change the culture of this thing … that part of it you can’t just change overnight because you can’t just change a guy. Some guys you just can’t change.
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Tommy Kelly, you listening?
Albert,playoffs next year? AAAA HAAAAA.cant change some guys.dumb is just dumb.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
It’s easy for Reggie to criticize all of Al Davis’s moves as the main problem. What will determine if he’s a good GM will be if he’s able to recognize and correct his own mistakes.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
812.Marks hair Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Reggie should have put his foot down and not allowed nap 2 go with a strict ZBS to start the season…
That was the 2nd biggest mistake of his short career in Oakland.First was fireing Hue.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
“Last year is last year. Revisiting it only makes us frustrated in thinking what could have been….It’s over with.”
10 games in with Reggie and DA in charge, we see an offense which has taken a decidedly HUGE step backwards and a defense that has actually gotten worse, which I thought not possible.
That’s not “revisiting” sh@t. That’s stating facts.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Reggies talking like the players hes brought in have been so outstanding. Please. Claims hes gonna upgrade a lot of positions next season. Isnt that what you claimed you were doing this season with signing Brisiel, Wheeler, Spencer? Doesnt sound like an upgrade to me. Im not at all convinced that Reggie even has the eye to upgrade this roster, even with a healthy cap situation. Reggie, my guy, you get a D- so far this season, easy, and thats being generous. Al D did better than you last season and he was DEAD for half of it. I see no promise in what Reggies selling. But Id be happy if I was wrong.
November 30th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THE PAST!
Keep talking about it though, it’s fun to keep reading the same shet over and over again. Is that all you got, Oak? lol
November 30th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
qodrn1 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
I love the Raider Nation. The 49er fans just whine when the team looses. Raider Nation folks rebuild the team and make sure the Raiders know what to fix just in case they missed it.
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Yep. I love my RN brothers and sisters to death. By far the most erudite X&O fanbase in the NFL. Keep up the good work RN. Why i read every single comment of every article. Wealth of wisdom, good debate, devils advocates, scouting knowledge, and the best sense of humor.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Reggies talking like the players hes brought in have been so outstanding.
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Reggie’s got his handy Salary Cap pass for that
November 30th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Btw…
If Pryor plays 3 or more qtrs
Raiders 27
Browns 24
If Leinart/Palmer play most of the game
Browns 34
Raiders 13
November 30th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Oakofshow, here’s the link to Reggie’s interview
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/
Ahh, who I am kidding? I know you can’t read that many words at one time.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
824.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Oakofshow, here’s the link to Reggie’s interview
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/
Ahh, who I am kidding? I know you can’t read that many words at one time.
After predicting playoffs and making a complete jerk of yourself you should just probably shut your hole son.Playoffs.giggle. slapping my hand on the desk right now.funny stuff.typical Canadian.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
The problem is that Reggie really didn’t bring in players that have played well. Wheeler is probably the only exeption. Burris good for a 4th round pick. All else total crap, including his hand-picked ZBS O-Lineman.
I don’t see progress in ANY area.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
820.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THE PAST!
Keep talking about it though, it’s fun to keep reading the same shet over and over again. Is that all you got, Oak? lol
Nope.Try this one.Get back on that raft you made out of dead cubans and hall a$$ little feller.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Post 819 John David Booty… lmfao hahahahaha, @ Al D did a better job managing the team and he was “dead” for half the season. Lol Roast of the year right there, hil-fn-arious… lmao
November 30th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
How do you guys feel about your Reggie the savior now?At least Al would have done it in public and not tried to bullsht anybody.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Silence.I think Albert just jumped 90ft to his death just like fellow Canadian Owen Hart. DAAAAAAAAAD
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Oak,
Still waiting for the visit. What were you going to do again? lol Soon you’ll be banned yet again because you’ll skip out on your meds. Good luck lil feller.
RedneckFoSho! lol
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
I don’t see any contradictions from what Reggie said earlier this year and now.
He thought he had a playoff team.
His goal is to upgrade the team. With depth, players would compete.
Theirs nothing unusual about players, even on playoff caliber teams to have someone nipping at their heels.
where’s the contradiction?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
On a much happier note, I also would like to wish “BO KNOWS JACKSON” a 50th Happy Birthday! A GREAT RAIDER whose career was cut short by injury. Had the privelige of seeing him playing in the S&B. Wow!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:16 am
FIRE REGGIE TODAY!
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And hire who, genius?
Happy Birthday to Bo Jackson, A REAL RAIDER.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
771.J-Raider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
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Cork, you seeing this?
This is AFTER you were telling people Clean Up Your Act.
Memo to blog posters: clean up your act
“By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 26th, 2012 at 6:56 pm in Oakland Raiders
50 Comments »
I just banned a user that has made a habit of crossing the line on a continual basis. This wasn’t a one-time thing. I banned a couple other users in recent weeks for doing likewise.
Your participation and patronage are much appreciated. This is a wonderful forum for everyone to comment, vent, pass along insight, etc. However, there’s no room for profane language, insults and other stuff that clearly crosses the line of decency and respect.
So, please, do your part to keep this blog alive and make it enjoyable for everyone.
If you feel as if someone is in violation of the aforementioned guidelines, please, contact me at any time, and I will address the matter.”
Contact me at: scorkran@bayareanewsgroup.com
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
How do you guys feel about your Reggie the savior now?At least Al would have done it in public and not tried to bullsht anybody
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Look, support the team or get the hell out.
Where do these people come from?
Al is gone
get on board, or get out of the way.
Trollgasms arent doing anything….
November 30th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 am
McClain is immature. Obviously.
But he was used wrong here his whole time.
He will be a good ILB somewhere.
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If you’re going to try to make a joke, you have to have a grain of truth in the damn thing. Lame try.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: To be reconstructed when I feel better
GG Says: If Pryor plays 3 or more qtrs
Raiders 27 Browns 24
If Leinart/Palmer play most of the game
Browns 34 Raiders 13
qodrn: Raiders 24 Other team 21