Pryor will be active, Seymour out, McFadden game-time decision
By Steve Corkran
Friday, November 30th, 2012 at 4:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said he envisions second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor being one of the 46 players active for Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Browns.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) and linebacker Rolando McClain (suspended) will be among the seven players inactive for the game, Allen said.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson are questionable as they continue their quest to return from high-ankle sprains suffered Nov. 4. Allen said both players will be game-time decisions.
– Allen said the decision to suspend McClain was his, though he consulted with general manager Reggie McKenzie.
Beyond that, Allen said he intends to keep to himself the details of what precipitated the two-game suspension.
“All I’ll say is that I met with Rolando this morning and informed him that I decided to suspend him for two games for conduct detrimental to the team,” Allen said. “That’s really all the details I have for you.”
When pressed, Allen said:
“I’m not going to get into any of the specifics of anything that happened, that went into the decision,” Allen said. “That’s team-related matters. We’re going to keep that within the family.”
McClain’s roster spot won’t be filled this week. Allen said he will decide whether to add a player for next Thursday night’s game against the Denver Broncos.
– Quarterback Carson Palmer (thumb) took all the reps with the first-team offense today, and he is good to go for the Browns game, Allen said.
It remains unclear whether Pryor will get any action against the Browns and, if so, in what capacity.
Matt Leinart is the primary backup, with Pryor the No. 3.
“He needs to start getting some, what it feels like to suit up on game day and we’ll see if we play him in the game,” Allen said of Pryor.
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November 30th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I didnt know the Oakland Raiders were the only team with a salary cap. I guess the NFL really is against us. In that case, I’ll just have to commend Reggie for having the courage to take on the arduous task that being the GM for the Raiders is. All this time, Reggie, I thought all teams had a salary cap. Now that I know youre the only one that has to deal with it, feel free to make all the excuses that you want.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Seymour’s still on the Raiders?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Seymour’s still on the Raiders?
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Yes, He’s a Team leader.
Just ask Him.
He’s the 1st in line come Pay Day.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW!
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Just keep pissin into the wind.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Booty, don’t be ridiculous. The Raiders had by far the worst salary cap situation in the NFL because of Al’s reckless spending.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie agrees they can be a playoff team
Posted by Darin Gantt on July 26, 2012, 10:28 AM EST
For a team that hasn’t had a winning season or a playoff berth since 2002, there’s a lot of confidence flowing through the Raiders organization.
Quarterback Carson Palmer declared last weekend he thought they were a playoff team, and new General Manager Reggie McKenzie doesn’t disagree.
“I think after being around these guys the whole offseason, being around the coaching staff and the players, I definitely think we have the makeup of being a playoff team,” McKenzie said, via Monte Poole of the Bay Area News Group. “I feel what Carson is saying, as far as where we’re headed. We’re headed in the direction to where we can get there.”
It’s not as if either Palmer or McKenzie are out buying ads in the newspaper promising a Super Bowl, as it’s a more subtle approach than Raiders fans are perhaps used to.
“But I’m encouraged by what I saw during the offseason, No. 1 being that everybody seems to be on the same page,” McKenzie said. “We just need to keep progressing. We can make this happen.”
After going 8-8 the last two years, the sense of purpose from the Raiders this year seems clear. McKenzie and new coach Dennis Allen have a chance to put together a team that could contend in a shaky division, and they’re starting to believe it.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Excuses off the bat.:
Q: How frustrating has this been for you to see this team that has not met your hopes or expectations?
A: I mean, you know, going into this thing from the offseason, I knew what road was in front of me and how we had to attack this thing. And as we all know, it’s been well-documented, mostly by you guys, about what I had in front of me, including the players and coaches, what we all had in store.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
excited to hear pryors active, also would like to see leiner (seriously) run the offense, looked good in preseason and his one game last year
November 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
there is a whole lot pf players waiting for the season to end…they do not want to play for DA…word gets around the league as well, other free agents wont want to play for this team now…
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Seasons already ended. They have already decided not to play for DA. Reggie knows it too.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
You know what? I think Ive figured it out. It was Reggie who predicted that it would be a playoff team back in July. But it was RALEIGH who gave the presser today. Or maybe its the other way around. One of those dudes does not know what theyre talkin about.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
“All I’ll say is that I met with Rolando this morning and informed him that I decided to suspend him for two games for conduct detrimental to the team,”
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Slap on the wrists.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
i liked what reggie had to say, the guy isn’t a wordsmith but hopefully he knows his personell. burris criner and streater look like good value pics christo bergs and crawford have a chance
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Gannon on 95.7 said that he’s talked to scouts who said they wouldn’t have taken McClain until the 4th round. Sounds like b.s. to me.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Reggie said he was going to wait for the end of the season to evaluate things. Why? Why wait. Season is over. We’re off season right now. Fire these coaches already.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Let the Pryor era begin….
November 30th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
there is a whole lot pf players waiting for the season to end…they do not want to play for DA…word gets around the league as well, other free agents wont want to play for this team now…
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Seasons already ended. They have already decided not to play for DA. Reggie knows it too.
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These guys are DEFINITELY NOT playing for DA. You think they dont know he doesnt have it, just like a lot of this blog does? At this point, youll have the check collectors who cash it in, and then youll have the guys who are playing for themselves, getting some game on tape, just so they can try to have a job somewhere next year. Its laughable to even THINK that any of these guys are all eyes on DA at this stage.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
14.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Gannon on 95.7 said that he’s talked to scouts who said they wouldn’t have taken McClain until the 4th round. Sounds like b.s. to me.
Why dont you follow fellow Canadian Owen Hart.90ft straight down
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
there is a whole lot pf players waiting for the season to end…they do not want to play for DA…word gets around the league as well, other free agents wont want to play for this team now…
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Seasons already ended. They have already decided not to play for DA. Reggie knows it too.
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That’s great.
It’ll make it easier to weed out the weak links.
If you are racing a nag of a horse, no matter how much whip you give it, it’s gonna lose.
You might be able to coax a higher finish, but will never win the race.
Reggie is trying to build a thoroughbred that is capable of winning.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Albert Bigelow P-aine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Gannon on 95.7 said that he’s talked to scouts who said they wouldn’t have taken McClain until the 4th round. Sounds like b.s. to me.
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i personally didn’t see anything that excited me about mcclain except that he was a big motherfuc#er but everybody had him high on the draft board same as almost everyone had Jamarcus in the top ten best players in the draft. easy to talk schit after the fact
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Gannon said that Dennis Allen probably has the hardest coaching job in the league trying to clean up the Raiders.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Q: Any regrets not leaving offense alone since zone blocking didn’t work so well?
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Man I wished he’d told that one like it is. It was a train wreck. Plain and simple. Ruined McFaddens’ season, can’t score from the one. What a disaster.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Gannon said when he came to the Raiders in 99 he almost threw up from what he saw from Raider players.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
At least Al would had the balls to do it public.Bottom lip is full of sht!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
14.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Gannon on 95.7 said that he’s talked to scouts who said they wouldn’t have taken McClain until the 4th round. Sounds like b.s. to me.
Why dont you follow fellow Canadian Owen Hart.90ft straight down
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I’m not Canadian you dip sh*t.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reggie is trying to build a thoroughbred that is capable of winning.
The only thing Reggie can build is a bowl of chitlens.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Al Davis had balls of steel. What we’re seeing is just the opposite.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reggie is trying to build a thoroughbred that is capable of winning.
The only thing Reggie can build is a bowl of chitlens.
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Ever smell those things before they’re cooked?
Nasty so bad, they didn’t get cooked.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Al Davis had balls of steel. What we’re seeing is just the opposite.
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Al’s Balls are bronzed actually.
You can find them enshrined in Canton Ohio.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reggie is trying to build a thoroughbred that is capable of winning.
The only thing Reggie can build is a bowl of chitlens.
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Ever smell those things before they’re cooked?
Nasty so bad, they didn’t get cooked.
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Worse when you cook em.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Gannon said when he came to the Raiders in 99 he almost threw up from what he saw from Raider players.
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the felluz liked to party. i know the guys in the 90s including the one’s you’d never guess loved the nose candy. It was the raider way. if you can party ala michael irvin/magic johnson and still perform do it. but i doubt it’s still like that, this was an isolated incident. and his 3 int’s in the superbowl almost had me throwing up
November 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Chitlens probably smell like Oakofshow’s breath.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Gannon said that Dennis Allen probably has the hardest coaching job in the league trying to clean up the Raiders.
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What does Gannon know about football? lol
November 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
“He needs to start getting some, what it feels like to suit up on game day and we’ll see if we play him in the game,” Allen said of Pryor.
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In other words, now that our season is done, we’ll treat the remaining five games like a pre-season and have a look-see at some of our back-ups. So at this point, we’re getting a big jump on the 2013 season.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
OneRaiderNation Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reggie is trying to build a thoroughbred that is capable of winning.
The only thing Reggie can build is a bowl of chitlens.
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Ever smell those things before they’re cooked?
Nasty so bad, they didn’t get cooked.
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Worse when you cook em.
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My sympathies…lol
November 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
CP3, youre my dude, and youll always be a Trojan legend. Im sorry your Raider career couldnt turn out better, but I respect you for always playing tough for us, despite having to take play calls from Greg Knapps Madden 95 playbook. With that said, Im feeling really interested in seeing what TP can do. I think he might surprise some people.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Chitlens probably smell like Oakofshow’s breath.
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If His breath smell like schiiit, then you’d be correct.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Gannon said that Dennis Allen probably has the hardest coaching job in the league trying to clean up the Raiders.
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Uh, yes, I would have to agree.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
33.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Gannon said that Dennis Allen probably has the hardest coaching job in the league trying to clean up the Raiders.
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What does Gannon know about football? lol
Just like Albert,listening to a guy who threw 5 ints in a superbowl.drrrrrrrrr
November 30th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
As frustrated as I am with this team — and man, I’m frustrated — every time I’ve listened to Reggie talk, there’s something about the guy that I just like. Something intangible. I don’t know if it’s his no-nonsense, focused demeanor, or his matter-of-fact mannerisms, but he shoots it straight.
He admits this job was a mess when he came in. He admits the talent is very thin. He’s not pulling punches. But he also isn’t saying that excuses a November like we had. It just shows how much of a debacle the previous regime left him.
I hate that we’re losing, but what I hear in that man’s voice is a guy who’s working around the clock, non stop, giving it all he has to make this team better. Who has a vision, who understands what it takes to build a team that isn’t just a flash in a pan, but has a backbone, a heart and soul.
I’m frustrated as heck. But when it comes down to it, I believe in Reggie McKenzie.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Q:Have you talked with him since this all went down?
Reggie: No.
Q:Do you feel the need to?
Reggie: Absolutely not.
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How a real GM should respond!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Q0kp8CMFQ
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
“He needs to start getting some, what it feels like to suit up on game day and we’ll see if we play him in the game,” Allen said of Pryor.
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In other words, now that our season is done, we’ll treat the remaining five games like a pre-season and have a look-see at some of our back-ups. So at this point, we’re getting a big jump on the 2013 season.
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It makes a lot more sense to put your best players out there and try to win the last games to build momentum into 2013. But you have a 3rd round pick tied up in this guy, we have seen basically everyone else, why not send him out there and see how he looks?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Gannon said that Dennis Allen probably has the hardest coaching job in the league trying to clean up the Raiders.
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Did he give an explanation?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
OneRaiderNation Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reggie is trying to build a thoroughbred that is capable of winning.
The only thing Reggie can build is a bowl of chitlens.
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Ever smell those things before they’re cooked?
Nasty so bad, they didn’t get cooked.
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Worse when you cook em.
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My sympathies…lol
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Appreciate it, but I draw the line at chitterlings…That smell blew it for me…lol
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
So after reading the transcript, it appears Reggie is a believer in building inside out.
Great News imo.
Charlie, you listening?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reggie and DA complicated things so bad by trying to re-tool this thing. All they had to do was:
1 keep Hue and let him build around Palmer
2 get a legit DC
3 re sign Bush
4 and a few tweaks
They made their own bed and now they got to roll around in it.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
40.ChrisinNC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
As frustrated as I am with this team — and man, I’m frustrated — every time I’ve listened to Reggie talk, there’s something about the guy that I just like. Something intangible. I don’t know if it’s his no-nonsense, focused demeanor, or his matter-of-fact mannerisms, but he shoots it straight.
He admits this job was a mess when he came in. He admits the talent is very thin. He’s not pulling punches. But he also isn’t saying that excuses a November like we had. It just shows how much of a debacle the previous regime left him.
I hate that we’re losing, but what I hear in that man’s voice is a guy who’s working around the clock, non stop, giving it all he has to make this team better. Who has a vision, who understands what it takes to build a team that isn’t just a flash in a pan, but has a backbone, a heart and soul.
I’m frustrated as heck. But when it comes down to it, I believe in Reggie McKenzie.
================================== AAAAA HAAAA.youd be the only one son.Did you predict playoffs this year like the other bottom lip suckers?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
eymour Bush Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
“He needs to start getting some, what it feels like to suit up on game day and we’ll see if we play him in the game,” Allen said of Pryor.
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In other words, now that our season is done, we’ll treat the remaining five games like a pre-season and have a look-see at some of our back-ups. So at this point, we’re getting a big jump on the 2013 season.
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It makes a lot more sense to put your best players out there and try to win the last games to build momentum into 2013. But you have a 3rd round pick tied up in this guy, we have seen basically everyone else, why not send him out there and see how he looks?
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Probably doesn’t care about momentum because the staff and most the players gonna be sh*t canned after the final game. But I agree with what your sayin.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Oakfoshow,
You couldn’t hide who you were because your limited brain capacity couldn’t keep up with your demands. Up to your same old routine…Cork should ban you soon enough.
We are light years away from even reaching a Super Bowl, dumb kid. Not to mention he was one of the best QB’s i’ve had the opportunity of watching play.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reggie and DA complicated things so bad by trying to re-tool this thing. All they had to do was:
1 keep Hue and let him build around Palmer
2 get a legit DC
3 re sign Bush
4 and a few tweaks
They made their own bed and now they got to roll around in it.
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But they didn’t. And now you are still living in the past.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Gannon said that Dennis Allen probably has the hardest coaching job in the league trying to clean up the Raiders.
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Did he give an explanation?
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He based it on his own experience coming to the Raiders in 99. He said that team was a complete mess.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The reason this is going to worse in 2013…
Reggie’s MO is about gutting an entire roster to protect his hand-picked HC from blame, and thus deflect blame from himself. No good GM does this. You don’t remove 53 to protect 1, especially when the HC and his staff are inept. This is why I fear Reggie, he’s like a fantasy football team owner.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
GG, sometimes your speculation on the GM and staff cracks me up. Thank you.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Reggie is telling it straight.
The straight that is for public consumption.
I like his frank comments and believe there’s a lot more “frank” discussion that goes on behind the scenes.
Reggie has a plan and I hope He can pull it off.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
49.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Oakfoshow,
You couldn’t hide who you were because your limited brain capacity couldn’t keep up with your demands. Up to your same old routine…Cork should ban you soon enough.
We are light years away from even reaching a Super Bowl, dumb kid. Not to mention he was one of the best QB’s i’ve had the opportunity of watching play.
================================================= Tell cok,I mean Cork I said kiss my A$$ while your crying to him.DAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAD.I might have to take 2 min. out of my day to change my screen name.Playoffs? AAAAA HAAAAA.you moron SHUT UP!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I want you all to listen to me before I hit Mont Bleu to watch football and drink for free,…Reggie became a GM today,..ya heard me?….hes my guy from now on,…hes takin out the trash…Im all about Reggie now,…and by trash I mean any coach he thinks is trash too,…hes done evaluating,…everyones on notice,..the last 5 games will be great and this off season will be awesome,..Im all paid up for 2013 and cant wait!!!! Ok now lets get it Stanford,..Pasadena!!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
When you are trying to change the losing culture that this team is infected with, you can’t let the inmates run the asylum. Kelly is the poster boy, get rid of him.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
49.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Oakfoshow,
You couldn’t hide who you were because your limited brain capacity couldn’t keep up with your demands. Up to your same old routine…Cork should ban you soon enough.
We are light years away from even reaching a Super Bowl, dumb kid. Not to mention he was one of the best QB’s i’ve had the opportunity of watching play.
Stop lying,Gannon never played in Cuba.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
54.RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Reggie is telling it straight.
The straight that is for public consumption.
I like his frank comments and believe there’s a lot more “frank” discussion that goes on behind the scenes.
Reggie has a plan and I hope He can pull it off.
================================================== Yea,he has a plan.Clean out his desk and run back to Green Bay
November 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m going to get a Reggie McKenzie jersey.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I agree with you guys saying its line preseason …. They’re gonna be looking for the guys that are still playing for the love of the game and they’re gonna be weeding out the check cashers …. Gonna be a major turnover this offseason
November 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Here’s the thing that bugs me the most. Not that the coaches chosen are trying to force in schemes which totally don’t fit the personnel. Not even only that things are getting worse and worse which should actually show improvement.
It’s that despite this Reggie’s choices seem to be almost across the board turning things the wrong direction.
Not just the coaches. Not just somehow the defense getting WORSE (didn’t believe that possible). Not just Special Teams and Offense regressing. But also his hand picked players he brought in for these schemes are for the most part not really working out.
It’s across the board – and that is what bugs me the most.
If there was improvement in the defense and the players he brought in were playing at a high level while the others were struggling. Fine, I’d have hope that he’d replace more and more and get good fits for the schemes.
But that’s not happening which really shows across the board bad decision making which is what really scares me about having him at the top.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
fingers Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I agree with you guys saying its line preseason …. They’re gonna be looking for the guys that are still playing for the love of the game and they’re gonna be weeding out the check cashers …. Gonna be a major turnover this offseason
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But does that big turnover lead to more wins? We turned over half our roster since last season. Looks worse to me.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I thought the presser was fairly even handed from Reggie.
He did have bad contracts to deal with and cap issues that hindered him. If I was him I wouldn’t want to accept all the blame for that either. His professional rep is at stake so naturally he can be given a “little” bit of slack, but he DID say this was a playoff team in his mind, though what was he supposed to say? ” Man were gonna suck this yr.”?
I like that even though he acknowledges they were hampered he finds the current state of the team unacceptable and is rightly disappointed. In other words, we shouldn’t be THIS bad, and yes we should be getting better…not worse.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Ehhh, duhhhh…Gannon never played in Cuba…ughhh. lol I bet you look like Beavis and have never been laid by anyone other then someone to who you refer to as a family member.
Big ole dummy.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I want you all to listen to me before I hit Mont Bleu to watch football and drink for free,…Reggie became a GM today,..ya heard me?….hes my guy from now on,…hes takin out the trash…Im all about Reggie now,…and by trash I mean any coach he thinks is trash too,…hes done evaluating,…everyones on notice,..the last 5 games will be great and this off season will be awesome,..Im all paid up for 2013 and cant wait!!!! Ok now lets get it Stanford,..Pasadena!!
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Sarcasm.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
On a much happier note I also would like to wish “BO KNOWS JACKSON” a happy 50th birthday. Had the privelege of seeing him wear the S&B. WOW!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Extremely disappointed in Reggie’s remarks. Never once stepped up and admitted a single mistake and instead blamed this entire season on Al. If this is the guy leading us into battle we are in for another long decade.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Sounds to me like these last 5 games Knapp and Tarver might be playing for their jobs.
Pure speculation though.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Reggie sucks.Mark will sht can him soon.All the bottom lip suckers can go with him.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
63… It better lead to more wins …. Us Natives are getting restless…
November 30th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
worse part is he said huff is a safety
November 30th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Let me tell you something about Gannon before I put on my snow shoes to get to Mont Bleu,…as you all know, Im at every game, get sideline access occasionally,..I see the likes of Bo Jackson there, Father Kauffman,..Freddie,..Kick em,…Cliff Branch,..Snake, (if we`re lucky),…Romo,…Christianson,..Van Eegan,..the list goes on,..but NEVER the likes of Gannon,..know why?…hes a prick thats why. I firmly believe he threw the Superbowl in protest of Gruden being sold in the middle of the night,..(cant really blame him for that),..but Gannon is a weird ingrate that nobody likes in the NFL,…nobody in Alameda cares what Gannon says. He saying scouts had Rolando in later rounds is a flat out lie, no scout ever told him that. Period.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Nope Len, youre wrong, as usual.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Extremely disappointed in Reggie’s remarks. Never once stepped up and admitted a single mistake and instead blamed this entire season on Al. If this is the guy leading us into battle we are in for another long decade.
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All he did was tell the truth.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
65.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Ehhh, duhhhh…Gannon never played in Cuba…ughhh. lol I bet you look like Beavis and have never been laid by anyone other then someone to who you refer to as a family member.
Big ole dummy.
Hey.cok,I mean cork isnt gonna like that.Whats that email address you guys been useing.DAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAAD
November 30th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I don’t care what the scheme is, players have to do their jobs. The alternative is for the coaches to institute some crappy scheme so that marginal players can be mediocre.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Sounds to me like these last 5 games Knapp and Tarver might be playing for their jobs.
Pure speculation though.
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Agree with the speculation.
Reggie stated He will have a say in whomever is brought in on the staff.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Romo is coming up on 95.7 soon.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
60.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m going to get a Reggie McKenzie jersey.
You do that snapperhead,but it wont be in silver and black cause he is out here son.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I wanna see a defense that doesn’t look helpless ….
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Yo Albert, we dont get that loser station up here,..can you remember everything he says then post the transcript for us please?…so we can hear the exact things hes been saying about Rolando all year? Thanks ese.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Did Reggie say he has done a single thing he regrets???? Why didn’t anyone ask him why Indy can go from the worst team in the league to better than respectable in a single season while Reggie has taken a borderline playoff team and turned it into a joke?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
75.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Extremely disappointed in Reggie’s remarks. Never once stepped up and admitted a single mistake and instead blamed this entire season on Al. If this is the guy leading us into battle we are in for another long decade.
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All he did was tell the truth.
No,he lied his a$$ off.Cant help it.Hes geneticlly programmed to do so.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Yo Albert, we dont get that loser station up here,..can you remember everything he says then post the transcript for us please?…so we can hear the exact things hes been saying about Rolando all year? Thanks ese.
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You have the internet don’t you?
http://player.tritonmedia.com/entercom/KGMZFM
November 30th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Nope Len, youre wrong, as usual.
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From the book of AL….I’d rather be right than consistent.
Hard to read you sometimes.
You’re all over the place.
Fair enough then.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Did Reggie say he has done a single thing he regrets???? Why didn’t anyone ask him why Indy can go from the worst team in the league to better than respectable in a single season while Reggie has taken a borderline playoff team and turned it into a joke?
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100% totally different situations, for one.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Im watching the Cardinal at Mont Bleu in a bit dude,…free booze. Just print the F`kn transcripts like I asked. Thanks. Cya.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Oak,
Your Stetson University education sure reflects through your insightful and intellectual posts. LMAO
November 30th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
87.RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Did Reggie say he has done a single thing he regrets???? Why didn’t anyone ask him why Indy can go from the worst team in the league to better than respectable in a single season while Reggie has taken a borderline playoff team and turned it into a joke?
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100% totally different situations, for one.
============================================ You gonna predict playoffs again cheif?lol
November 30th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Of course each situation is different but I believe Reggie’s biggest mistake was going with DA who has proven to not be a leader of men.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Al’s Raiders are one of only a terrible few that somehow were always up against a $100 million cap yet had almost NO impact players.
That’s really hard to do.
Last legit FA that came here?
Exactly.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
The Raiders kicked the salary Cap down the road for YEARS trying to win now.
AL was dying AND HE KNEW IT!
Fuuuck. He HAD TO WIN NOW!
Reggie is trying to get this shiit in order.
It might take more than a moment.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
89.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Oak,
Your Stetson University education sure reflects through your insightful and intellectual posts. LMAO
Yup,thats what a $180.000 education will buy you.Dont be jealous.Cuba will get there someday.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Of course each situation is different but I believe Reggie’s biggest mistake was going with DA who has proven to not be a leader of men.
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And DA going with knapp.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
180.00 dollars?
ok?
Sounds like a GED course. LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
The KPI for me on Reggie is a number of things seen thru the year. Hold these points up to the light yourselves…
1. Allowed Knapp hiring, and switch to ZBS. Reggie as GM has to understand X&Os. He has played pro football, but erred in an insistence on a scheme that does not suit the majority of the existing roster. That’s not smart GM’ing. It portends a terrible rookie year as GM (which has happened). And thus portends GM thinking to gut an entire roster to find his own players that fit a scheme he insists on. But an offensive scheme, the OC himself, is never a long-term deal. They come and go every few years. Why you cannot place the HC/OC above your 53 roster in terms of expendability.
2. Selling his soul to the WCO/ZBS. That idea to grab the Texans system and port it here has meant signing Knapp, getting rid of Wisniewski, bringing in Pollack from Houston and thus Briesel packaged with Pollack. And thus Reggie compounded the mistake because he’s tied himself to this particular multi-transaction, become insistent on it at the expense of the offensive roster and what suits them. Dumb GM’ing.
3. Thru the year being far too passive with his coaching staff’s ineptness. Again, tied to his marrying himself to the schematic change come hell or highwater.
4. The plethora of questionable personnel moves. PUP’ing Curry for so long, cutting S’oto to activate Curry, losing S’oto claimed by another team, then waiving Curry a week later. D’oh! There’s the Pat Lee one. There’s also been quite a lot of Reggie signing and/or bringing in ex-Packers practice squad guys that he helped scout years ago. Ie, there’s that fantasy football thing in him. He has a very narrow touch of the talent out there in FA, only knows what he personally scouted and makes that fantasy football mistake of thinking his own scouted players are better than Al’s or anyone else’s from other teams. He continued to bring these guys in, and each time they failed to stick, or sucked in-game. He hasn’t ‘hit’ on one of them yet. Proof he doesn’t have the knack (YET).
5. Thru that 4 game all-time franchise losing streak, he continued to sit on his hands and not make sweeping changes.
6. This excuse-fest BS’ing PC. Where his MO and blame-deflection and marrying himself to things no matter how bad they are is very apparent. It’s a bad flaw. Even Al said, I’d rather be right than consistent. Or words to that effect.
7. If Allen has lost the roster, you do NOT gut the 53 to protect the HC. HC’s come and go. You cannot keep rebuilding an entire 53 man roster every few years when a HC loses the players.
8. And this is the key thing…IF Reggie doesn’t clean out the coaching staff beneath Allen (if Allen must stay in 2013) then he has nailed the coffin.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Oakofshow, what did you study at Stetson University?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
When Reggie is fired,Im gonna make you dumba$$es cry.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
And DA going with knapp.
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Knapp could be gone in a couple of months.
Not before, but after the season ends.
We’ll see.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Good to hear Pryor is finally going to get to suit up. He’s been working hard for 12 months and deserves a shot
November 30th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
For some of the mentally challenged folks who frequent the blog of late:
Reggies transcript in layman’s terms
“I blame me, the coaches and the players”
Doesn’t sound like he’s passing the buck to me.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Twocents Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I don’t care what the scheme is, players have to do their jobs. The alternative is for the coaches to institute some crappy scheme so that marginal players can be mediocre.
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The argument that “players have to do their jobs” is a dumb argument to make. A good coach uses what he has and makes it work.
Whether you agree or not, McFadden has proven that with the right scheme he is a top 3 back in the NFL. Is it just a coincidence that he has NEVER flourished under Knapp? But Knapp takes what is working and decides to change it. And DA and McKenzie knew Knapp was going to run a zone scheme, but they hired him anyways. So I blame them as well!
You say “the alternative is for the coaches to institute some crappy scheme”…….. Kind of like Denver did with TIM TEBOW? all that did was take them to the playoffs. AS much as I hate to say it, John Fox and his Offensive staff did a masterful job with what they had. Thats called COACHING! Discipline puts players in the right position. In Military, guys are trained over and over again on how to execute, and if you dont, people die. With the Raiders, if you dont, my bad. I still have my millions. There needs to be more accountability and much better coaching.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
98.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Oakofshow, what did you study at Stetson University?
Buisness,Industrial Engineering.Not that its any of your fkn buisness.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I am gonna order a custom throwback McKenzie jersey.
What was his number when he played here?
I sure am glad we landed a top notch GM and not some expensive suit wearing ivy leaguer that was too big a wuss to play sports.
Other GM’s know the Reg is a upright man who will not welch or lie and cheat so he will make us some great deals
Next year = best year ever!!
Don’t sell your ticket and then want on the bandwagon next year
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Andrew luck and Chuck Pagano’s defensive genius turned Indy around.
Davis brought in scrub backup QBs here.
Davis passed on Rodgers, Big Ben, and Cutler.
Pagano LITERALLY LAUGHED when asked if interested in Oakland job.
Who’s fault is it we couldn’t have an Indy like turnaround??
Al Davis’ philosophy and weak roster.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Oakofshow, what did you study at Stetson University?
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100 different ways to wear a baseball cap?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
When Reggie is fired,Im gonna make you dumba$$es cry.
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LOL…
There’s no crying in Football.
You didn’t get the memo.
Well…I guess the memo would have been impossible.
People with jobs get memos.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
# Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
98.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Oakofshow, what did you study at Stetson University?
Buisness,Industrial Engineering.Not that its any of your fkn buisness.
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But you made it his. LOL
Mopping the floor of those classrooms doesn’t give you the right to say that’s what you studied.
Must have skipped spelling in middle school? Or did you even reach that level of education? Sure doesn’t seem like it.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Here come the Reggie lovers.Bring it on snapperheads.You all predicted playoffs.Thats all the ammo I need.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Q: So, no matter what, he’s safe for next year?
A: You know what, guys? Players, coaches, my scouts, I don’t care, the equipment guy, I’m not going to get after … from a standpoint of who’s safe, who’s in or out. I don’t like to discuss anything during the season. It’s my job to evaluate this team, and that’s done on a weekly basis. So, at the end of this thing, I have my evaluation of not only coach Allen but every player and my thoughts of every coach. But that’s a season evaluation. That’s what I feel about that.
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Seasons ended. Start firing.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
98.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Oakofshow, what did you study at Sttetson University?
Buisness,Industrial Engineering.Not that its any of your fkn buisness.
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First year drop out, right?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Reggie is full of it. Of course, I knew the media would never ask him real questions. “we don’t have a pass rusher” yeah you let him go so we could get Briesel…2 more years of DA & 3 of Reggie, I’m so excited…Here we come LA!
November 30th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Well it was my number one job really to get what I feel is the backbone of the football team, my scouting department. I think I’m further along in that area than anything else.
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That’s because we haven’t seen those gems yet.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Here come the Reggie lovers.Bring it on snapperheads.You all predicted playoffs.Thats all the ammo I need.
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Love the strawman arguments….
“You all” predicted playoffs….LMFAO
Are Reggie Lovers also “Palmer Worshippers?”
Give it up already.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Good coaches need talent to win.
See Tomlin this year!!!
John Fox in Carolina vs with Manning as qb.
Shanahan w/ elway and without.
George Seifert Super Bowl w 49ers 1-15 with Panthers.
Kubiak took a while in Houston. (Wade Phillips saved him)
Vince Lombardi terrible in Washington.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I woulda asked Reggie if he knew hiring knapp and blowing up the strength of McFaddens greatness would be the first step in sinking this team.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
When Reggie is fired,Im gonna make you dumba$$es cry.
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LOL…
There’s no crying in Football.
You didn’t get the memo.
Well…I guess the memo would have been impossible.
People with jobs get memos
Hey bottom lip sucker,Ive worked for 2 of the largest companies in the world.Now I am a PE and all I have to do is sighn drawings.You wouldnt know about that cause you are still a kfc eating mthafka.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Whats the line on the UCLA game?
Stanford should roll over UCLA but my gut says Mora is gonna pull a rabbit out of his hat.
Vegas already has my number so in the grand tradition of paying the light bill I take UCLA straight up
November 30th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Reggie is the Kiffin of GM’s.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
2 of the largest companies in the world = McDonald’s and Wal-Mart.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
# alex7 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Good coaches need talent to win.
See Tomlin this year!!!
John Fox in Carolina vs with Manning as qb.
Shanahan w/ elway and without.
George Seifert Super Bowl w 49ers 1-15 with Panthers.
Kubiak took a while in Houston. (Wade Phillips saved him)
Vince Lombardi terrible in Washington.
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That makes sense but not to many in here. Reggie just made too many mistakes with all the draft picks and salary cap he had to work with.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
So disappointed in todays presser. Woulda like to hear “yeah, I’m sendin that toadstool down the road, and his marshmellow eatin caddy can go with him. I’m takin over HC duties til I find my own kinda guy. You dig?”
November 30th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Here come the Reggie lovers.Bring it on snapperheads.You all predicted playoffs.Thats all the ammo I need.
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Love the strawman arguments….
“You all” predicted playoffs….LMFAO
Are Reggie Lovers also “Palmer Worshippers?”
Give it up already
What kind of dumb filthy hor names her kid LEN?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
# Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
When Reggie is fired,Im gonna make you dumba$$es cry.
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LOL…
There’s no crying in Football.
You didn’t get the memo.
Well…I guess the memo would have been impossible.
People with jobs get memos
Hey bottom lip sucker,Ive worked for 2 of the largest companies in the world.Now I am a PE and all I have to do is sighn drawings.You wouldnt know about that cause you are still a kfc eating mthafka.
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Took you long enough to google that bit of info. Sighn? LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
When Reggie is fired,Im gonna make you dumba$$es cry.
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LOL…
There’s no crying in Football.
You didn’t get the memo.
Well…I guess the memo would have been impossible.
People with jobs get memos
Hey bottom lip sucker,Ive worked for 2 of the largest companies in the world.Now I am a PE and all I have to do is sighn drawings.You wouldnt know about that cause you are still a kfc eating mthafka.
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I guess I struck a nerve. LOL
Working for two of the largest companies in the world, if true, just means that you work cheap.
Peter principle at work here.
KFC is overpriced.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I will start a Rue the day list if this keeps up.
Reggie haters will one day be filled with shame and remorse for doubting the man with the golden touch
superbowl bound, baby
November 30th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Here come the Reggie lovers.Bring it on snapperheads.You all predicted playoffs.Thats all the ammo I need.
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Love the strawman arguments….
“You all” predicted playoffs….LMFAO
Are Reggie Lovers also “Palmer Worshippers?”
Give it up already
What kind of dumb filthy hor names her kid LEN?
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Hahahahaha
Melt down in full effect.
You show great “poise”…lol
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
If any of you want to know what TP6 aka “Houdini” is all about, go to CSN Bay Area’s website in the video section and look at his latest interview.
The kid NEVER says the wrong thing.
I want to see this kid play so f’n bad right about now.
Y’all know Im not the biggest fan of the way Al ran things before he died, but the TP6 pick up will go down as his last great move. I really think TP can play in this league. The fire and frustration he is showing, along with the patience and work ethic, is the stuff of champions.
Watch the video Im talking about and I tell you, its impossible to not want to root for this kid.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
2 of the largest companies in the world = McDonald’s and Wal-Mart
HI,my name is raiderduck.People call me raiderdick the child molester.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Largest companies in the world?
Indian Railway
British healthcare and Chinese army
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Notice how Oakfoshow goes to the stupid insults? Definitely struck a nerve there.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
127.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I will start a Rue the day list if this keeps up.
Reggie haters will one day be filled with shame and remorse for doubting the man with the golden touch
superbowl bound, baby
AAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA.and still they never learn
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Hi,
I worked for McDonalds and Wal-Mart as a cashier and am now in FULL BLOWN MELT DOWN MODE.
lmao
You’re too easy to upset, OakfoShow!
November 30th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Rick Bucher asked Palmer bout Pryor playing. He said he expects Pryor to get some playing time before the year is over.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
132.RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Notice how Oakfoshow goes to the stupid insults? Definitely struck a nerve there.
The only thing thats strikes a nerve is Raider fans predicting playoffs then happy being 3-13.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
GG #97
Excellent post!! Thank you for taking the time to write that.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
If any of you want to know what TP6 aka “Houdini” is all about, go to CSN Bay Area’s website in the video section and look at his latest interview.
The kid NEVER says the wrong thing.
I want to see this kid play so f’n bad right about now.
Y’all know Im not the biggest fan of the way Al ran things before he died, but the TP6 pick up will go down as his last great move. I really think TP can play in this league. The fire and frustration he is showing, along with the patience and work ethic, is the stuff of champions.
Watch the video Im talking about and I tell you, its impossible to not want to root for this kid.
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Pryor has been a PROFESSIONAL.
I’m pulling for the Kid.
If we are in full rebuild, we have to know what Pryor can do.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Alex7 did you here Reggie? He said he wants to win up front with the big boys. But that went right over your head.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Hi,
I worked for McDonalds and Wal-Mart as a cashier and am now in FULL BLOWN MELT DOWN MODE.
lmao
You’re too easy to upset, OakfoShow!
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Exactly. He wants us all to believe he’s an adult working as a professional, yet uses the language and grammar of an ignorant teenager. Oak: NO PROFESSIONAL PERSON talks like you do. NOBODY. Your language would get you sent to HR and then fired before the first break of your first day, assuming you somehow passed the interview.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Have the Pryor supporters actually seen him throw the ball? His running skills are well below Cam’s and Vicks, but they throw the ball a million times better than him. And they both struggled this year. Pryor is probably awesome on Madden, but this is real life. So honestly, do you think he can throw the ball? Is he able to throw a 12 yard comeback, a skinny post? I’ve only seen hitches and prayers to the end zone. Lets not get stupid.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Woulda like to hear Reggie go into a little more detail on the ZBS and explain why if he knew it sucked in pre-season, why he allowed them to keep at it.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Notice how Oakfoshow goes to the stupid insults? Definitely struck a nerve there.
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Ya,
I usually try to stay away from the BS but got involved Today.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
134.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Hi,
I worked for McDonalds and Wal-Mart as a cashier and am now in FULL BLOWN MELT DOWN MODE.
lmao
You’re too easy to upset, OakfoShow!
That almost sounds as stupid as you predicting playoffs idiot.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Arrogance and idiocy go hand in hand.
McKenzie has spent his life in football, what have his critics done?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
BTW Oak, I don’t see an Industrial Engineering program offered at Stetson U. They have a pre-engineering program.
http://www.stetson.edu/other/academics/programs.php
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
140.RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Hi,
I worked for McDonalds and Wal-Mart as a cashier and am now in FULL BLOWN MELT DOWN MODE.
lmao
You’re too easy to upset, OakfoShow!
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Exactly. He wants us all to believe he’s an adult working as a professional, yet uses the language and grammar of an ignorant teenager. Oak: NO PROFESSIONAL PERSON talks like you do. NOBODY. Your language would get you sent to HR and then fired before the first break of your first day, assuming you somehow passed the interview.
and you learned this where??
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
If any of you want to know what TP6 aka “Houdini” is all about, go to CSN Bay Area’s website in the video section and look at his latest interview.
The kid NEVER says the wrong thing.
I want to see this kid play so f’n bad right about now.
Y’all know Im not the biggest fan of the way Al ran things before he died, but the TP6 pick up will go down as his last great move. I really think TP can play in this league. The fire and frustration he is showing, along with the patience and work ethic, is the stuff of champions.
Watch the video Im talking about and I tell you, its impossible to not want to root for this kid.
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Sorry your late to the party.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Never predicted playoffs, nice try.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
oakfosho
Reggie is better then most of the GM’s out there.
I can only list three I would rather have then Reggie and they are not coming to Oakland.
Who would you recommend Mark hire for a GM?
For a coach?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
146.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
BTW Oak, I don’t see an Industrial Engineering program offered at Stetson U. They have a pre-engineering program.
http://www.stetson.edu/other/academics/programs.php
AAAA haaaaaa.you stupid bastard
November 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
150.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
oakfosho
Reggie is better then most of the GM’s out there.
I can only list three I would rather have then Reggie and they are not coming to Oakland.
Who would you recommend Mark hire for a GM?
For a coach?
Really? Cause he has accomplished so much as a gm in the past.Jezzus fkn christmas.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I woulda asked Reggie if he knew hiring knapp and blowing up the strength of McFaddens greatness would be the first step in sinking this team.
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Me too. Why blow up the #5 Oline in the league last year?
Sounds like he said he would have had to keep Bob Wylie and Wiznewski
November 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Alex7 did you here Reggie? He said he wants to win up front with the big boys. But that went right over your head.
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Reggie also said that our O-Line is getting beat physically, that its not the scheme. Hmmmm…. Havent I been saying the EXACT SAME THING?
Reggie also said that on defense that he knows the game, he knows what everyones responsibilities are, and he can see that its NOT THE SCHEME, its the players not DOING THEIR JOBS, in particular, the LBs not filling their gaps. Havent I been saying the EXACT SAME THING?
But keep blaming the coaches. Take the oppinion that is opposite of the GM and HC. Two people waaaay more qualified to have a football opinion than any of us here.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
150.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
oakfosho
Reggie is better then most of the GM’s out there.
I can only list three I would rather have then Reggie and they are not coming to Oakland.
Who would you recommend Mark hire for a GM?
For a coach?
John Gruden would be nice. A gm with some actuall experiance to go along with it would be fantastic.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I am sold on Oak being 16 and is being frequently bullied at school.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
mods- clean up the racist trash in here like you said you were going to.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Woulda like to hear Reggie go into a little more detail on the ZBS and explain why if he knew it sucked in pre-season, why he allowed them to keep at it.
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He did when he was first hired. Said he was going to let the coaches coach. Now in his presser he is saying that everyone is being evaluated and if something changes it won’t happen until after the season is over.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Woulda like to hear Reggie go into a little more detail on the ZBS and explain why if he knew it sucked in pre-season, why he allowed them to keep at it.
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He answered the question. Its just that you myopic fans refuse to listen if it doesnt suit your agenda.
He said that regardless of the scheme, if your getting beat physically, your getting beat regardless.
Our O-Line needs to man up and stop being such pu55ies.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Google a GM Oak, hurry. You didn’t understand the question! LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I am sold on Oak being 16 and is being frequently bullied at school.
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His demeanor, his mock-aggressiveness, his terrible spelling and grammar, his inflating his importance to ridiculous levels: Yeah, that fits.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
GG Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The reason this is going to worse in 2013…
Reggie’s MO is about gutting an entire roster to protect his hand-picked HC from blame, and thus deflect blame from himself. No good GM does this. You don’t remove 53 to protect 1, especially when the HC and his staff are inept. This is why I fear Reggie, he’s like a fantasy football team owner.
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Nah, even fantasy football owners look to the current coaching scenes to look at who will be put in better positions or worse positions.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If anyone believes that Reggie will be hamstrung by Mark Davis, with regard to coaching or player personnel change, I believe you’d be wrong.
Reggie WILL make sure that personnel AND coaching is up to speed.
He said so today.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If you dont think coaching is a key ingredient of an org just see the Saints, plenty of talent there but they are missing that key ingredient, COACHING!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Texans are maybe the best team in football right now and they run the zbs. Its a good scheme IF you have the players to do it properly. We don’t. Square peg round hole.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Reggie also said LEADERSHIP is an issue on this team…
Hmmmmm…. who else has been saying that here?
The bottom line is this, Reggie is well aware of the issues here. And I think he knows what is going to need fixing. And knowing that, Im in full support of him and I believe he will get this thing turned around.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Woulda like to hear Reggie go into a little more detail on the ZBS and explain why if he knew it sucked in pre-season, why he allowed them to keep at it.
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He answered the question. Its just that you myopic fans refuse to listen if it doesnt suit your agenda.
He said that regardless of the scheme, if your getting beat physically, your getting beat regardless.
Our O-Line needs to man up and stop being such pu55ies.
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And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
November 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Man the Raiders need that running back from Stanford. Stefan Taylor. Watching him play rightn ow in the pac 12 championship.
I’d take him over DMAC right now.
It really is gonna hurt not having that high 2nd round pick. Sucks even more it has to go to cincy. I am glad HUE IS GONE now
November 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I am sold on Oak being 16 and is being frequently bullied at school.
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Poor Kid.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
161.RaiderDuck Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I am sold on Oak being 16 and is being frequently bullied at school.
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His demeanor, his mock-aggressiveness, his terrible spelling and grammar, his inflating his importance to ridiculous levels: Yeah, that fits.
I love it.Keep it comeing.mock-aggressiveness huh.omfg!
November 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If you dont think coaching is a key ingredient of an org just see the Saints, plenty of talent there but they are missing that key ingredient, COACHING!!!!
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When Reggie and DA turn this thing around eventually, are you going to man up and admit you were wrong or simply change your login name here?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Alex7 did you here Reggie? He said he wants to win up front with the big boys. But that went right over your head.
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He said that, yet the “big boys” on both sides of the ball are MAJORLY worse than last year – probably biggest difference. How can this D-Line suddenly not pressure the QB? Last year and the year before they put big-time pressure and created sacks.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Gruden is not coming here and he has less GM experience then Reg, much much less
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Bill Walsh was booed and hated by SF fans his first year. Good thing management didn’t listen the the moronic fans.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Texans are maybe the best team in football right now and they run the zbs. Its a good scheme IF you have the players to do it properly. We don’t. Square peg round hole.
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Exactly.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Reggie will keep DA so he can be scapegoated after NEXT season.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Woulda like to hear Reggie go into a little more detail on the ZBS and explain why if he knew it sucked in pre-season, why he allowed them to keep at it.
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He answered the question. Its just that you myopic fans refuse to listen if it doesnt suit your agenda.
He said that regardless of the scheme, if your getting beat physically, your getting beat regardless.
Our O-Line needs to man up and stop being such pu55ies.
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And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
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Barnes was always a pu55ie
Coop is just too old, last year was his last serviceable year
Briesel is a bust
Wiz cant play center effectively
I cannot explain Veldheer
Our schedule is harder
Stop acting like we have the same team or we are playing the same schedule as last year.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
mods- clean up the racist trash in here like you said you were going to.
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When you see it you need to report it to Cork scorkran@insidethebayarea.com.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I found a video of Oakofshow. He’s the smaller kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfn4OxCPQs
November 30th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Another great example of coaching, the LA Lakers. If Phil Jackson is the coach there and they run his scheme they just might win the championship, without Phil and his scheme Lakers are toast, they will be lucky to get out the first round.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Any way you dip shts cut it.Hue and Al 8-8.Reggie and DA 3-8.You have no basis for arguement.Just keep makeing yourselves look dumber and dumber to fans who truely know football.Its right in front of you,but your ignorance just wont let it into your tiny little heads.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I’m done with Oak. I’m starting to feel like one of his bullies in school and I would hate for any child to have to go through that kind of torment. There was a special on CNN about bullying and it really takes an emotional toll on some of these kids. As we all can see, Oak has suffered through his fair share of it.
I’m sorry Oak. Hope you get promoted to produce supervisor at Wal Mart.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
East – there are only so many Phil Jacksons out there. At some point you have to try to find another one. It’s not easy… Obviously.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
wow someone is really gonna compare COLTS n the RAIDERS??
FIrst of all they got rid of manning and all that money the would have to pay him.
They had the number 1 pick.
Got the best qb to come out of the draft in years. Andrew luck.
THey had plenty of draft picks.
They were not in cap trouble like the RAiders. this is not madden you dont just go around signing players .
They were free to trade for some players
above all they have andrew luck. and well the raiders have palmer.
13 million this year and 16 million dollars next year all for an average qb that cant even scramble for a first down.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Reggie will keep DA so he can be scapegoated after NEXT season.
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Reggie is an evil genius.
He could scapegoat for 10 and then…..
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Twocents Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Arrogance and idiocy go hand in hand.
McKenzie has spent his life in football, what have his critics done?
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Everyone in the NFL has spent their life in football. Doesn’t mean every one of them is worthy of holding a GM or HC position.
I don’t claim to know more than him football wise. But, with that argument, Al Davis was the best out of anyone ever anywhere because I truely believe he had not knowledge of football than almost anyone out there. Just wasn’t adjustable in his decision based on that knowledge and it went down hill.
Knapp knows a lot, but he’s stuck in an earlier era and doens’t look at the players in front of him.
It looks a bit like the GM is doing the same.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
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Bellicheck was a loser until he got Tom Brady into the game
Sean Payton wouldnt be Sean Payton without Drew Brees
Jimmy Johnson didnt went 1-15 his first year, and didnt do crap with the Dolphins
Bill Walsh was horrible until he got “his guys” in there
Tom Coughlin was going to get fired until Eli got hot
Gruden didnt do crap once he was given control of TB’s roster, that team got worse every year
If you think our players arent being coached to hit the right gaps, then you are a total fool. Our D has been making the same dumb mistakes year after year, coach after coach. The players are the constant here, not the coaches. When the players change, then you will see this teams fortunes turn around.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Quinton Jackson@Rampage4real
There is always someone in the world wishing they had your worse day. Point is no matter what!! stay positive.. Hope y’all r felling me.
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Hear that Reggie.. stay strong bro.. u too DA
November 30th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
wow someone is really gonna compare COLTS n the RAIDERS??
FIrst of all they got rid of manning and all that money the would have to pay him.
They had the number 1 pick.
Got the best qb to come out of the draft in years. Andrew luck.
THey had plenty of draft picks.
They were not in cap trouble like the RAiders. this is not madden you dont just go around signing players .
They were free to trade for some players
above all they have andrew luck. and well the raiders have palmer.
13 million this year and 16 million dollars next year all for an average qb that cant even scramble for a first down.
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More importantly, they have coaches that are making the best out of these new pieces. They added some key players, but that’s not all that has turned them around from complete losers to a formidable team in no time.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
174.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Gruden is not coming here and he has less GM experience then Reg, much much less
Who the hell said anything about Gruden being a gm?Pay attention.Know wonder you predicted playoffs.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
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Barnes was always a pu55ie
Coop is just too old, last year was his last serviceable year
Briesel is a bust
Wiz cant play center effectively
I cannot explain Veldheer
Our schedule is harder
Stop acting like we have the same team or we are playing the same schedule as last year.
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Excuses Excuses. Its the scheme you dont go from the #5 oline in the NFL to this crap in 1 offseason, UNLESS YOU CHANGE UP THE SCHEME.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
oak
Too bad Al did not keep Cable and Hue together for one more year. We would have kicked butt and made the playoffs for sure last year. Then Reg would not have been able to fire them. He might even have promoted Hue to HC
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Another great example of coaching, the LA Lakers. If Phil Jackson is the coach there and they run his scheme they just might win the championship, without Phil and his scheme Lakers are toast, they will be lucky to get out the first round.
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Steve Nash being hurt and not having anyone else on the roster other than Kobe who can shoot a jumper has nothing to do with the Lakers current woes right?
Just shut up. You dont know chit about basketball either.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
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Bellicheck was a loser until he got Tom Brady into the game
Sean Payton wouldnt be Sean Payton without Drew Brees
Jimmy Johnson didnt went 1-15 his first year, and didnt do crap with the Dolphins
Bill Walsh was horrible until he got “his guys” in there
Tom Coughlin was going to get fired until Eli got hot
Gruden didnt do crap once he was given control of TB’s roster, that team got worse every year
If you think our players arent being coached to hit the right gaps, then you are a total fool. Our D has been making the same dumb mistakes year after year, coach after coach. The players are the constant here, not the coaches. When the players change, then you will see this teams fortunes turn around.
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Wrong riffraff. WE changed half our roster from last year and now we’ve already lost the same number of games with 4 weeks left to lose more.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
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Barnes was always a pu55ie
Coop is just too old, last year was his last serviceable year
Briesel is a bust
Wiz cant play center effectively
I cannot explain Veldheer
Our schedule is harder
Stop acting like we have the same team or we are playing the same schedule as last year.
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Excuses Excuses. Its the scheme you dont go from the #5 oline in the NFL to this crap in 1 offseason, UNLESS YOU CHANGE UP THE SCHEME.
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The biggest difference in o-line is that we changed scheme and coaches. Unless you really think that Satelle was the piece holding everything together.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
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Barnes was always a pu55ie
Coop is just too old, last year was his last serviceable year
Briesel is a bust
Wiz cant play center effectively
I cannot explain Veldheer
Our schedule is harder
Stop acting like we have the same team or we are playing the same schedule as last year.
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Excuses Excuses. Its the scheme you dont go from the #5 oline in the NFL to this crap in 1 offseason, UNLESS YOU CHANGE UP THE SCHEME.
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You are blaming scheme, yet you dont even know what scheme is. You couldnt coach a pop warner team let alone break down an NFL scheme. You are talking out of you a55 and you know it.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Any way you dip shts cut it.Hue and Al 8-8.Reggie and DA 3-8.You have no basis for arguement.Just keep makeing yourselves look dumber and dumber to fans who truely know football.Its right in front of you,but your ignorance just wont let it into your tiny little heads.
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On a fitted hat I think I’m a 7 1/4, so by Bochy standards, I’ve got a little head.
If you want to see ignorant, just take a look in the mirror.
Then google the meaning of ignorant. Maybe your picture will be there.
#Winning.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
TRUE THAT.. the COLTS got a legit OC to work with the dynamic LUCK
November 30th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
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Bellicheck was a loser until he got Tom Brady into the game
Sean Payton wouldnt be Sean Payton without Drew Brees
Jimmy Johnson didnt went 1-15 his first year, and didnt do crap with the Dolphins
Bill Walsh was horrible until he got “his guys” in there
Tom Coughlin was going to get fired until Eli got hot
Gruden didnt do crap once he was given control of TB’s roster, that team got worse every year
If you think our players arent being coached to hit the right gaps, then you are a total fool. Our D has been making the same dumb mistakes year after year, coach after coach. The players are the constant here, not the coaches. When the players change, then you will see this teams fortunes turn around.
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I dont think you understand what being coached to hit the right gaps means. Its not simply saying, this is your gap, go get it. Its actually getting players to buy in and do it, thats coaching!
I believe the Raiders had the #4 defense at some point over the last 10 years. So it hasn’t always been bad. I believe Jamarcus and Knapp were on the other side of the ball then, but I could be wrong.
Regarding Gruden, he took a team that couldnt win a playoff game, and they won the super bowl the next year.
You are making excuses for Reggie and DA. The fact is, they went backwards. You are the good loser, and you just proved it. And dont worry, I wont read your reply cause I cant stand stupidity such as yourself!
November 30th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
179.KoolKell Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
mods- clean up the racist trash in here like you said you were going to.
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When you see it you need to report it to Cork scorkran@insidethebayarea.com.
DAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAD.Like I said before,tell cok,I mean Cork to kiss my a$$.He wont ban me.Scared.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
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Bellicheck was a loser until he got Tom Brady into the game
Sean Payton wouldnt be Sean Payton without Drew Brees
Jimmy Johnson didnt went 1-15 his first year, and didnt do crap with the Dolphins
Bill Walsh was horrible until he got “his guys” in there
Tom Coughlin was going to get fired until Eli got hot
Gruden didnt do crap once he was given control of TB’s roster, that team got worse every year
If you think our players arent being coached to hit the right gaps, then you are a total fool. Our D has been making the same dumb mistakes year after year, coach after coach. The players are the constant here, not the coaches. When the players change, then you will see this teams fortunes turn around.
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Wrong riffraff. WE changed half our roster from last year and now we’ve already lost the same number of games with 4 weeks left to lose more.
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We were a 1-4 team down the stretch last year.
We are basically a 1-4 type team this year.
There is no difference. Same players in key positions, same dumb mistakes being made.
We have 3 of the top 15 WRs when it comes to dropping passes. Oh, and that is somehow the schemes fault. Blame the scheme for all of DHBs drops. Or Reece’s INT last week. Or Meyer’s INT. Or Streater’s fumble. Or Kelly’s offsides against SD.
Yeah, totally the schemes fault. A scheme you couldt break down if your life depended on it.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Bill Walsh was booed and hated by SF fans his first year. Good thing management didn’t listen the the moronic fans.
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Bill Walsh inherited a team who was 2-14 the previous season…..not 8-8 and a half away from a division title……
Making correlations between Bill Walsh and anyone who Coaches for the Raiders (on the sidelines on Sundays) is laughable.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
183.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I’m done with Oak. I’m starting to feel like one of his bullies in school and I would hate for any child to have to go through that kind of torment. There was a special on CNN about bullying and it really takes an emotional toll on some of these kids. As we all can see, Oak has suffered through his fair share of it.
I’m sorry Oak. Hope you get promoted to produce supervisor at Wal Mart.
Like all Reggie lovers,I was done with you along time ago. Than when you predicted playoffs?
It became really easy to bash you up and down this board.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
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Barnes was always a pu55ie
Coop is just too old, last year was his last serviceable year
Briesel is a bust
Wiz cant play center effectively
I cannot explain Veldheer
Our schedule is harder
Stop acting like we have the same team or we are playing the same schedule as last year.
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Excuses Excuses. Its the scheme you dont go from the #5 oline in the NFL to this crap in 1 offseason, UNLESS YOU CHANGE UP THE SCHEME.
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You are blaming scheme, yet you dont even know what scheme is. You couldnt coach a pop warner team let alone break down an NFL scheme. You are talking out of you a55 and you know it.
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So what would you blame the MASSIVE regression from? It’s the same line except for Satelle, and I don’t think he was teh lynchpin that suddenly everything collapsed from.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
CVRaider,
I wont read your reply cause I cant stand stupidity such as yourself!
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You wont read my reply because youre dead wrong in this debate and your argument has tons of holes in it. This isnt a matter of opinion. For those that know football, this is just factual observation. But for those of you in the dark, you all have opinions about what is the problem. I dont have opinions, I know what the problems are. And Im vindicated by Reggie’s presser where he says the EXACT SAME THINGS myself, McFadden20, twocents, JFB, DAV, YA, RaidingTexas, and others have been saying.
There are those that know football, and there are those that dont.
My statements are in line with a NFL GMs, whereas your opinions are not. It’s not easy to see who the fool is here.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
174.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Gruden is not coming here and he has less GM experience then Reg, much much less
Who the hell said anything about Gruden being a gm?Pay attention.Know wonder you predicted playoffs
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I don’t remember predicting playoffs. I think you say that about everyone when you don’t have a answer.
You want Gruden to come back as a coach?
That’s your answer to our problems?
Hire someone who is unobtainable?
Don’t bother responding
November 30th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Ive been right since day one,and will continue to be right.How are you fk’s gonna deal with me when Reggie go’s down the road? Might want to think about that then go away.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
From Tuesday’s chat …
ME: Steve, on Friday, can you ask Reggie this one simple question: Do you regret firing Hue Jackson?
STEVE: Sure. Will do.
Just read the transcript. Umm. Yeah. Thanks Steve … for nothing.
Good thing a reporter got in that question about Pat Lee though. I know a lot of fans were dying to get the scoop on a backup DB who was here for like 6 games and hasn’t been on the team in over a month. Great job, guys. As always.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
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Bellicheck was a loser until he got Tom Brady into the game
Sean Payton wouldnt be Sean Payton without Drew Brees
Jimmy Johnson didnt went 1-15 his first year, and didnt do crap with the Dolphins
Bill Walsh was horrible until he got “his guys” in there
Tom Coughlin was going to get fired until Eli got hot
Gruden didnt do crap once he was given control of TB’s roster, that team got worse every year
If you think our players arent being coached to hit the right gaps, then you are a total fool. Our D has been making the same dumb mistakes year after year, coach after coach. The players are the constant here, not the coaches. When the players change, then you will see this teams fortunes turn around.
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Wrong riffraff. WE changed half our roster from last year and now we’ve already lost the same number of games with 4 weeks left to lose more.
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We were a 1-4 team down the stretch last year.
We are basically a 1-4 type team this year.
There is no difference. Same players in key positions, same dumb mistakes being made.
We have 3 of the top 15 WRs when it comes to dropping passes. Oh, and that is somehow the schemes fault. Blame the scheme for all of DHBs drops. Or Reece’s INT last week. Or Meyer’s INT. Or Streater’s fumble. Or Kelly’s offsides against SD.
Yeah, totally the schemes fault. A scheme you couldt break down if your life depended on it.
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Um, didn’t you see DHB put in positions last year where he caught more? Hue SAW that he dropped hella balls and he put him on routes that limited that weakness. And he caught short passes and turned them into some long gains.
I ain’t saying we have the best players in the NFL. I’m saying our last coaches knew how to put them in positions to take advantage of what they COULD DO.
There are a million examples to look at the players and how much worse they are “magically” this year.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Honestly the Raiders are gonna have to move on from DHB.
If you ever want to be a good team/ offense you are gonna have to get rid of guys like DHB.
Dropping balls over crossing routes that would be first downs. That stuff cant happen to a 4th year VET
November 30th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
“This is my football team. It’s not a dictatorship by any means but it’s my football team and I’m responsible.”
For some reason, I thought this was still the Davis’ team.
This is what has been obvious from day one, you know once you start mentioning and denying “dictatorships” I’ll show you a fat one, a BigMac in full power mode. OK, and he’s definitely responsible, the buck stops with him right?
So be it, so get it done or get outta Oaktown, Mac. Stop the BS and the cap excuses.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If you dont think coaching is a key ingredient of an org just see the Saints, plenty of talent there but they are missing that key ingredient, COACHING!!!!
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When Reggie and DA turn this thing around eventually, are you going to man up and admit you were wrong or simply change your login name here?
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I hope they do turn it around but all I’m saying is they made the job harder than it had to be by firing Hue, the man went 8-8 as a rookie HC and brought our O from the laughingstock to an almost elite level and with Reggie behind him and a new DC theres no doubt in my mind this team would be much further along. But listen to you “eventually” every team wins “eventually” we dont have time for that we already had our “eventually” stage have you seen the past 10 years? Even the Browns and Lions will win “eventually”
November 30th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
And why weren’t these “pu55ies” being beaten so badly last year? Why did they push ahead to McFadden getting over 5ypc (almost 2 ypc more than last year)? They just suddenly became wussies?
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Barnes was always a pu55ie
Coop is just too old, last year was his last serviceable year
Briesel is a bust
Wiz cant play center effectively
I cannot explain Veldheer
Our schedule is harder
Stop acting like we have the same team or we are playing the same schedule as last year.
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Excuses Excuses. Its the scheme you dont go from the #5 oline in the NFL to this crap in 1 offseason, UNLESS YOU CHANGE UP THE SCHEME.
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You are blaming scheme, yet you dont even know what scheme is. You couldnt coach a pop warner team let alone break down an NFL scheme. You are talking out of you a55 and you know it.
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So what would you blame the MASSIVE regression from? It’s the same line except for Satelle, and I don’t think he was teh lynchpin that suddenly everything collapsed from.
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Back up….
Before I answer you question about the regression, which I will gladly do for you if you are genuinely interested in learning….
Lets get past one major point here. You are not a coach at any level. Can you admit that you dont have a strong or even truly basic understanding of football philosophy and strategics. It is fairly safe to say that you, along with most here, are not even remotely qualified to be judging something of which you dont understand correct?
You wouldnt be second guessing Steve Jobs when it comes to his branding/marketing expertise would you? Of course not. So admit, most here have no business talking about “scheme” and coaching techniques when they’ve got little to know knowledge of the subject.
Judging scheme simply because you watch a lot of pregame shows is the equivalent of giving Apple branding advise because you own a iPhone and are good at Angry Birds.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
honestly im pissed at HUE right now because that 2nd draft pick could have helped this year
November 30th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
KK when you were slinging racial slurs like “sand monkey” and “crackers” did you report yourself?
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KoolKell Says:
When you see it you need to report it to Cork scorkran@insidethebayarea.com.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Oh yah we would be 8-3 instead of 3-8 if we had that rookie! lmao
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RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
honestly im pissed at HUE right now because that 2nd draft pick could have helped this year
November 30th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
By the way, it’s not a dictatorship, it’s an oligarchy.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Why are some u people so stupid? Or talking football when u don’t know enuff to do so? The line’ problems are not scheme. The zbs is a great scheme.
1) wiz is not as god at C as he is at G. Hue knew that.
2) Carlisle is fading. He’s 35.
3) brisiel has sucked.
There’s the 3 in the middle of the line. All three get blown up routinely.
4) Barnes has been injured. Smith sucked.
5) veldheer hasn’t been bad.
Plus DMc sucks now. Keep watching. Reece has shown the holes are there. So has Goodson. When DMc comes back and sucks, u will see.
Most of the pressure on passes has come up the middle.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If you dont think coaching is a key ingredient of an org just see the Saints, plenty of talent there but they are missing that key ingredient, COACHING!!!!
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When Reggie and DA turn this thing around eventually, are you going to man up and admit you were wrong or simply change your login name here?
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I hope they do turn it around but all I’m saying is they made the job harder than it had to be by firing Hue, the man went 8-8 as a rookie HC and brought our O from the laughingstock to an almost elite level and with Reggie behind him and a new DC theres no doubt in my mind this team would be much further along. But listen to you “eventually” every team wins “eventually” we dont have time for that we already had our “eventually” stage have you seen the past 10 years? Even the Browns and Lions will win “eventually”
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Hue getting fired what his own doing.
I wanted to keep Hue just as bad as you did/do.
But he had to go, he left Mark no other choice. That is on Hue. We have to accept that and move on.
Furthermore, Hue wanted to gut this team too. He wasnt happy with the players that let him down either. So if youre a Hue supporter, then by default you should be a DA sympathizer, DA got stuck with virtually the same clowns on D.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
helped this offseason. Now that high 2nd round pick is going to cincy.
Probaly gonna made that another two draft picks trading down.
I give reggie a pass because this franchise is a complete mess. No money, No draft pics, No Depth.
BTW im a real raider fan. But if Im a TOP 5 pick coming out in the draft this year.. I would be kinda worried that I would end up stuck with the Raiders. They dont have a great track record with draft picks.. or development. Thats just honesty
November 30th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
from the outside looking in.. the organization looks like complete dog shyyt.
If Im manti I wouldnt want to come to the Raiders…
November 30th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I absolutely love how only the Reggie lovers who are wrong about everything point out grammer.Thats all they got,thats it.Dont bother admitting your record predictions or the player predictions like Rod Streater.Point out grammer.Some of us drink some beers and type fast and dont give a flying fk about grammer.This is a football blog,not an english class.So go buy some Rod Streater jerseys and Reggie posters and fk your mothers tonight k.Thanks.fosho.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Oligarchy is a form of government, the NFL is more like a cartel.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Riff, what else is Reggie going to say. He’s not going to blame his coaches, he is going to say its the guys he didnt draft or sign. I’ve said this on here several times….. Bill Parcels was a winner, Jimmy Johnson was a winner, Bill Walsh was a winner, Tom Caughlin was a winner, Bill Belecik is a winner, Mike Tomlin is a wiiner, John Gruden is a winner, Sean Peyton is a winner, AND THEY ALL WIN CONSISTINTLY. Because they coach there players to be in the right gap. And if they dont, they cut their azzes. This coaching staff says, “well we will turn it around, we didnt play well today” Thats BS. But you think you are some genious because you said THE EXACT SAME THING as Reggie (i.e. A LOSER)
Eddie Debartolo said, “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser!”
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Bellicheck was a loser until he got Tom Brady into the game
Sean Payton wouldnt be Sean Payton without Drew Brees
Jimmy Johnson didnt went 1-15 his first year, and didnt do crap with the Dolphins
Bill Walsh was horrible until he got “his guys” in there
Tom Coughlin was going to get fired until Eli got hot
Gruden didnt do crap once he was given control of TB’s roster, that team got worse every year
If you think our players arent being coached to hit the right gaps, then you are a total fool. Our D has been making the same dumb mistakes year after year, coach after coach. The players are the constant here, not the coaches. When the players change, then you will see this teams fortunes turn around.
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Wrong riffraff. WE changed half our roster from last year and now we’ve already lost the same number of games with 4 weeks left to lose more.
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We were a 1-4 team down the stretch last year.
We are basically a 1-4 type team this year.
There is no difference. Same players in key positions, same dumb mistakes being made.
We have 3 of the top 15 WRs when it comes to dropping passes. Oh, and that is somehow the schemes fault. Blame the scheme for all of DHBs drops. Or Reece’s INT last week. Or Meyer’s INT. Or Streater’s fumble. Or Kelly’s offsides against SD.
Yeah, totally the schemes fault. A scheme you couldt break down if your life depended on it.
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Um, didn’t you see DHB put in positions last year where he caught more? Hue SAW that he dropped hella balls and he put him on routes that limited that weakness. And he caught short passes and turned them into some long gains.
I ain’t saying we have the best players in the NFL. I’m saying our last coaches knew how to put them in positions to take advantage of what they COULD DO.
There are a million examples to look at the players and how much worse they are “magically” this year.
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You cant blame DHBs drops on the scheme. Seriously, go rewatch them, if those drops are the scheme’s fault, than no scheme will every make DHB a star.
Every scheme will have a WR going over the middle. If he cant make a catch on the run, he’s not a NFL caliber WR.
He has the physical tools and the work ethic to be great, but he just cant catch. And that isnt the coaches fault. He’s done nothing but improve while with us, but it still isnt enough to be at NFL standards.
He’s James Jett 2.0
Reece’s INT and Meyer’s INT and Streater’s fumble are in no way shape or form the fault of the scheme. That is just chitty play. Losers find ways to lose, winners find ways to win.
Seriously, some of you need to go watch some other teams play. Look at their discipline, their intensity, their ability to make tough plays, and the way they avoid the big mistakes in crunch time. That is what winners do. And its up to the players on the field ultimately. They are the ones out their playing, not the coaches.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
So what would you blame the MASSIVE regression from? It’s the same line except for Satelle, and I don’t think he was teh lynchpin that suddenly everything collapsed from.
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Back up….
Before I answer you question about the regression, which I will gladly do for you if you are genuinely interested in learning….
Lets get past one major point here. You are not a coach at any level. Can you admit that you dont have a strong or even truly basic understanding of football philosophy and strategics. It is fairly safe to say that you, along with most here, are not even remotely qualified to be judging something of which you dont understand correct?
You wouldnt be second guessing Steve Jobs when it comes to his branding/marketing expertise would you? Of course not. So admit, most here have no business talking about “scheme” and coaching techniques when they’ve got little to know knowledge of the subject.
Judging scheme simply because you watch a lot of pregame shows is the equivalent of giving Apple branding advise because you own a iPhone and are good at Angry Birds.
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I have a fairly strong knowledge of football – no I’m not a coach. But, I would be second guessing Steve Jobs if he inherited a company which was improving, and then suddenly it hit the tanks right when he went in. And then he only talked about external situations and his workers not doing their jobs. These are the same workers who made it expanding before.
It’s visible in the product and in statistics. Is it getting better? Must be doing a good job.
But, please, explain to me if it isn’t the changing of the coaches or the scheme that suddenly had McFadden struggling or the O-Line regressing, then what is it? Suddenly they’re not ‘executing’ this year? They got weaker and became weaklings?
Yes, that is sarcastic, but I’d like an be ‘enlightened’ by what you believe it is if not that.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Raider Riff, how would you explain the top free agents, who were productive as heck in their old homes going to new places, new schemes, new coaches and suddenly sucking badly? That they just “lost their competitive hunger”?
You see it ALL THE TIME. They just don’t fit with the scheme. WE did that with ALL our players this year and the result ain’t pretty.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
So Pryor is gonna suit up Sunday. I hope the best for that guy and would love to see something that shows that he could be the #1 for the next ten years.
I just have a hard time getting excited about it though. Every time I get my hopes up on a player, they flop.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Otherwise, how do you explain McFadden getting 1.5ypc better under Hue’s offense than any other he’s been in?
If not scheme? And being put in the position to maximize his talents?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Back up….
Before I answer you question about the regression, which I will gladly do for you if you are genuinely interested in learning….
Lets get past one major point here. You are not a coach at any level. Can you admit that you dont have a strong or even truly basic understanding of football philosophy and strategics. It is fairly safe to say that you, along with most here, are not even remotely qualified to be judging something of which you dont understand correct?
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STFU with all your high and mighty BS you are nothing Riff but and old highschool jock who played Divllll college ball. You think you are think you are the only one who played ball? I would bet my last that you were the weakest link on whatever bum ass team you played for and I know your not athletic for obvious reasons I wont state. You must think football is rocket science but it probably is to a dumb jock like you Riff JUST STFU and go watch NFL Rewind and view some coaches tape that you THINK makes you special, but you are special Riff short yellow bus special.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
It’s a McKtatorship.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
So that’s all you have?
Reggie is stupid? Should have kept Hue? Hire Gruden.
Great. There you have it. A mind numbingly brilliant plan. Should have done this. should have done that and now hire someone who has not coached for years and would not even contemplate returning
But everyone else is stupid because they are not mensa enough to come up with the scheme you did
November 30th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
207.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
174.Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Gruden is not coming here and he has less GM experience then Reg, much much less
Who the hell said anything about Gruden being a gm?Pay attention.Know wonder you predicted playoffs
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I don’t remember predicting playoffs. I think you say that about everyone when you don’t have a answer.
You want Gruden to come back as a coach?
That’s your answer to our problems?
Hire someone who is unobtainable?
Don’t bother responding
===================================================== Number one I will respond to anything I want to.Do you understand that a$$hole?Number two Im so glad you sit in the office next to Mark Davis and know who the fk is obtainable and who isnt.Number three every Reggie loveing moron on this blog who predicted playoffs all of the sudden says they didnt,but I was here and argued with all of you.So stop the lieing bullsht and own up to it.Number four get it through your goofy head that Reggie has killed all things Raider and you should be absolutely besides yourself right now.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Does anyone speak jive?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
STFU with all your high and mighty BS
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hahaha Don’t you love it when people who waste their time here tell us how stupid everyone is
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Does anyone speak jive?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Riff….? You still around? I’d like to know how you explain the massive regression in these areas despite virtually same personnel if not by scheme and coaching?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If you dont think coaching is a key ingredient of an org just see the Saints, plenty of talent there but they are missing that key ingredient, COACHING!!!!
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Spot on.
And here is some twisted logic for DA nutt huggers and knapp surfers. If Reggie and DA gutted this team to 50% this year and we wind up at 4-12, does that mean next year when Reggie and DA gut the remaining 50% we will be 0-16? That’s the road we’re headed down right now. No coaching and 50% talent this year, no coaching and 0% talent next year.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I’m a humble uninformed fan, so really would like to know
November 30th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Oak
I was just feeling my oats and yanking your chain. I don’t want to start a internet battle. You win. You are smarter then all us playoff predicters. I think Steve should buy you a trophy
Peace out
November 30th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RaidersAllDay,
Sure a 2nd round pick can help, if you pick the right guy. But who would be our QB right now. We would still be scrambling to find an option there. And how would you have felt last year going from 4-2 and in control of the division to something like 5-11 by standing pat and playing out the string with Kyle Boller. No, we didn’t make the playoffs, but we could have. A play here or a play there. McJogger makes an open-field tackle on Stafford. Janikowski’s 60+ yard try doesn’t get blocked. Or D holds San Diego on the drive that started on their own 1 when we were only down 5 late in that game. There are so many variables, so many bounces of the ball that go into this thing. Look at the Pats. Never would’ve won that first Super Bowl without a monumental blown call in Foxboro.
The bottom line is Hue gave us an opportunity and a realistic chance, our best chance to win with that trade. All it cost was two picks, each of which has about a 50% chance of never amounting to anything more than a flop.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Of course it’s not about schemes, it is never about “schemes,” it’s about the ability to call plays, the perennial offense-defense chess match, where the best and elite coaches thrive.
And obviously, it starts with the coaches in preparation and constant work on details and making sure everyone’s on the game plan. It is true that players are the ones in the trenches and should do their jobs, but what happens when the problems continue, coaches are usually the first to go. Junior is BigMac’s pet project, so don’t expect “deep evaluations” on this one or any staff changes next season.
I’m also worried about the McClain case because although McClain is a knucklehead this is an organizational meltdown, which reflects the inexperience of rookie GM, HC, and DC in dealing with at-risk talent. Whatever he did in Bama, he impressed people enough to earn a Butkus, who knows maybe college hardware isn’t really worth much.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Zopi
There is the possibility that like JR, RM has a abuse problems
November 30th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
,but I was here and argued with all of you.
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What was your name(handle) when you did all this arguing because it sure wasn’t Reggiehater?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
237.raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Riff….? You still around? I’d like to know how you explain the massive regression in these areas despite virtually same personnel if not by scheme and coaching?
They are going to tell you that its not the same personnel,even though they know damn well it is.Weak minded little jokes who have been brain washed by a second rate Gm with no experiance what so ever.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
STFU with all your high and mighty BS
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hahaha Don’t you love it when people who waste their time here tell us how stupid everyone is
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Man that thing, it, whatever riff is just works my nerves its cool until it goes all high and mighty, I dont know whats wrong with it.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
zopi Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Of course it’s not about schemes, it is never about “schemes,” it’s about the ability to call plays, the perennial offense-defense chess match, where the best and elite coaches thrive.
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So by that rational, am I right to assume then that you’re saying our coaches are better, worse or the same at that chess match compared to the coaches last year?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
244.lefty12 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
,but I was here and argued with all of you.
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What was your name(handle) when you did all this arguing because it sure wasn’t Reggiehater?
Oakfosho,raiderrich,mossrulz.Take your pick.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
So 55 is unapologetic???
“Yeah, I said it!!!!”
SMH
November 30th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Does anyone speak jive?
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I’m glad that someone got that. Funny stuff.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Zopi Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Of course it’s not about schemes, it is never about “schemes,” it’s about the ability to call plays, the perennial offense-defense chess match, where the best and elite coaches thrive.
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I agree on the chess match portion of what you stated, I’ve said as much plenty of times GKnapp and Tarver seem to be checker players, but scheme is just as important, you wouldnt put Gannaon in a vertical offense because it doesnt fit, you wouldnt put Brandon Jacobs in a Marshall Faulk type role right? Scheme Matters.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Reggie also said that our O-Line is getting beat physically, that its not the scheme. Hmmmm…. Havent I been saying the EXACT SAME THING?
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Well your just a fkin genius aren’t you…lol. Reggie should of also said why such a drop off from last years O-line and Offense as a whole. (maybe because his big FA RG and them movin o-linemen around is the obvious reason why we went from damn good to gawd awful on the o-line) Reggie needs to take some responsiblity for the regression on offense, he let Allen hire Knapp and some bum for an o-line coach. Reggie was happy as a mutha fka that these “beatwriters” threw softballs and didn’t even ask about the offense. Fkin candy @sses
November 30th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Amazing that those who stuck/stick up for Hue,who at the end of the year threw the players under the bus and called them out for not doing their jobs,now hate RM and DA because they say the same thing-its on the players.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Man, I remember warching Reggie be introduced at his initial presser and then my heart sank once he started talking. But I had read that he was the valedictorian of his high school class, so he must have some brains.
However, earlier tonight I watched a real sports episode that discussed how repetitive hits in football can actually destroy brain matter….then I read the transcript of reggie’s statements today and it clicked for me….now I understand why the guy no longer resembles a valedictorian.
Boys, our team is in serious trouble.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
You guys wanna heRea joke? … “Dennis Allen!” Lmao jajajajajajaja lol
November 30th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Bengals offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth was fined $26,250, and so were four Oakland defensive linemen: Desmond Bryant, Lamarr Houston, Tommy Kelly and Matt Shaughnessy.
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Kelly should pay for the fines of his 3 teammates, who are making peanuts and every one of them outplays him
November 30th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
SMH
Raiders for life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Does anyone speak jive?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ
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I’m glad that someone got that. Funny stuff.
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LOL – forgot that one!
November 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
So Huff is going back to S next year, eh?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Zopi Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Of course it’s not about schemes, it is never about “schemes,” it’s about the ability to call plays, the perennial offense-defense chess match, where the best and elite coaches thrive.
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I agree on the chess match portion of what you stated, I’ve said as much plenty of times GKnapp and Tarver seem to be checker players, but scheme is just as important, you wouldnt put Gannaon in a vertical offense because it doesnt fit, you wouldnt put Brandon Jacobs in a Marshall Faulk type role right? Scheme Matters.
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Exactly, scheme plays a lot as well as the playcalling.
Somehow the the Broncos with the worst QB in football managed to put him in a position to win. Despite one of the worst defenses too (with our HC as the DC).
He SUCKS, but they worked out what he could do and worked out a scheme and playcalling that made it somewhat effective.
Put him with Knapp and they would’ve been 2-14
November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
WTF is a heRea joke?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
McClain suspended 2 games?? thats it??
does that mean this clown will be starting MLB again when we play the Chiefs?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Amazing that those who stuck/stick up for Hue,who at the end of the year threw the players under the bus and called them out for not doing their jobs,now hate RM and DA because they say the same thing-its on the players.
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I personally never threw the players or Jackson under the bus. I threw the DC under the bus as the worst DC in football. Then I saw our defense this year.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
J Hill Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
So Huff is going back to S next year, eh?
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You’d rather have Gio back there.LMAO
November 30th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
D Line not getting pushed around.
Gap being given up by LBs not doing their jobs.
Need a culture change, bt Burris and Wheeler are 1st yr Raiders?
McKenzie going to go defense with this draft.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
STFU with all your high and mighty BS
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hahaha Don’t you love it when people who waste their time here tell us how stupid everyone is
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The thing about it Plunkethead, he talks good football. You, you’re just a gossipy little B.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Man, I remember warching Reggie be introduced at his initial presser and then my heart sank once he started talking. But I had read that he was the valedictorian of his high school class, so he must have some brains.
However, earlier tonight I watched a real sports episode that discussed how repetitive hits in football can actually destroy brain matter….then I read the transcript of reggie’s statements today and it clicked for me….now I understand why the guy no longer resembles a valedictorian.
Boys, our team is in serious trouble.
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So Reggie has brain damage.
Seriously?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
You’d rather have Gio back there
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I glad you laughed at that.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Maverick-Hue threw the players under the bus.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
STFU with all your high and mighty BS
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hahaha Don’t you love it when people who waste their time here tell us how stupid everyone is
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The thing about it Plunkethead, he talks good football. You, you’re just a gossipy little B.
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But some people on the blog do more to try to attack other people than to ever talk football.
They don’t even try put forward a point or disprove anything.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Kelly does his job, hes a space eater, hes there to draw double teams and take on defenders so the lbs can take up that gap. Hes not there to get sacks or play hulk and stop the run by himself if you notice Reggie had nothing bad to say about the D line jus O line and gap responsibilities that the lbs are responsible for and the dbs. I dont understand the kelly hate. Just like ppl said Seymour was trash but as soon as he got injured the D got worse showing just how valuable he is and how little most posters on here know.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Maverick-Hue threw the players under the bus.
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I don’t see it that way. Don’t think they did either.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
McClain suspended 2 games?? thats it??
does that mean this clown will be starting MLB again when we play the Chiefs?
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I doubt it. Gaither might just outplay him anyways.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
McClain suspended 2 games?? thats it??
does that mean this clown will be starting MLB again when we play the Chiefs?
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No Chance imo.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Typo… here a joke*
November 30th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Hue was let go after 8-8, because the team melted down the stretch, and should have been in the playoffs. I believe that was the rational for letting Hue go. With basically the same team nucleus, this team is 3-8 and melting down by the day at the 11th game, ranked 31st in power ranking. With that said, this team could still win out, because all the Raider players need to do is to step it up and play like they’re earning millions, 3 straight home games, then Carolina and the doltz, who knows, there just might be something there in this fantasy.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
270-we don’t agree often but on that point I agree with you 100%.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Raiderlen,
It’s either that, or his high school class consisted of two kids….Reggie and his twin brother. He can barely finish a thought.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
The Mack Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Kelly does his job, hes a space eater, hes there to draw double teams and take on defenders so the lbs can take up that gap. Hes not there to get sacks or play hulk and stop the run by himself if you notice Reggie had nothing bad to say about the D line jus O line and gap responsibilities that the lbs are responsible for and the dbs. I dont understand the kelly hate. Just like ppl said Seymour was trash but as soon as he got injured the D got worse showing just how valuable he is and how little most posters on here know.
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Profootballfocus had Seymour as our highest rated defensive player before he got injured.
And I agree with you on Kelly.
Most of the hate is based solely on their paycheck.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
STFU with all your high and mighty BS
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hahaha Don’t you love it when people who waste their time here tell us how stupid everyone is
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The thing about it Plunkethead, he talks good football. You, you’re just a gossipy little B.
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Ouch! Thanks for sharing that KK.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Zopi Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Of course it’s not about schemes, it is never about “schemes,” it’s about the ability to call plays, the perennial offense-defense chess match, where the best and elite coaches thrive.
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I agree on the chess match portion of what you stated, I’ve said as much plenty of times GKnapp and Tarver seem to be checker players, but scheme is just as important, you wouldnt put Gannaon in a vertical offense because it doesnt fit, you wouldnt put Brandon Jacobs in a Marshall Faulk type role right? Scheme Matters.
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Exactly, scheme plays a lot as well as the playcalling.
Somehow the the Broncos with the worst QB in football managed to put him in a position to win. Despite one of the worst defenses too (with our HC as the DC).
He SUCKS, but they worked out what he could do and worked out a scheme and playcalling that made it somewhat effective.
Put him with Knapp and they would’ve been 2-14
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Exactly, Just like if we play TP6 we will have to install a scheme to fit his talents and thats where the problem may lie seeing as though Knapp is the OC.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
#270 The Mack, I agree.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Gdog Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
The Mack Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Kelly does his job, hes a space eater, hes there to draw double teams and take on defenders so the lbs can take up that gap. Hes not there to get sacks or play hulk and stop the run by himself if you notice Reggie had nothing bad to say about the D line jus O line and gap responsibilities that the lbs are responsible for and the dbs. I dont understand the kelly hate. Just like ppl said Seymour was trash but as soon as he got injured the D got worse showing just how valuable he is and how little most posters on here know.
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Profootballfocus had Seymour as our highest rated defensive player before he got injured.
And I agree with you on Kelly.
Most of the hate is based solely on their paycheck.
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I was just thinking the same thing. More hate on the out-of-whack contracts for most. Because for that sort of money you should get a huge difference-maker, not a solid player.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Too bad JFB isn’t here.Is Kelly’s pay that out of line with other DTs?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Raiderlen,
It’s either that, or his high school class consisted of two kids….Reggie and his twin brother. He can barely finish a thought.
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Brain damage it is then.
For perspective, I’d just say I’ve heard many “eloquent” speakers over the years that lacked competence and common sense in their profession.
For Reggie’s sake, I hope you are wrong.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Maverick-Hue threw the players under the bus.
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I don’t see it that way. Don’t think they did either.
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If people want to say Hue threw players under the bus fine, but imo all he did was tell the truth and you know how the truth hurts sometimes.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
It’s going to be brutal out there Sunday. Forecasted downpours, overall miserable weather conditions, muddy wet field, a near the bottom of the barrel team that we always seem to play down to, a potential five game losing streak, an opponent with strong running game, our defense, no live TV coverage locally, all good reasons just to say screw it. I gave my 2 tickets to my son to use. I’m hoping the game will be tape delayed. Anyone know if it will be televised later?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
282 thats not his fault though, can you really fault a man for getting paid? Lol and a solid player on this D is better than nothing because we dont have many of them.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I predict T rich rushes for nearly 280 yards Sunday.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Zopi Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Of course it’s not about schemes, it is never about “schemes,” it’s about the ability to call plays, the perennial offense-defense chess match, where the best and elite coaches thrive.
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I agree on the chess match portion of what you stated, I’ve said as much plenty of times GKnapp and Tarver seem to be checker players, but scheme is just as important, you wouldnt put Gannaon in a vertical offense because it doesnt fit, you wouldnt put Brandon Jacobs in a Marshall Faulk type role right? Scheme Matters.
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Exactly, scheme plays a lot as well as the playcalling.
Somehow the the Broncos with the worst QB in football managed to put him in a position to win. Despite one of the worst defenses too (with our HC as the DC).
He SUCKS, but they worked out what he could do and worked out a scheme and playcalling that made it somewhat effective.
Put him with Knapp and they would’ve been 2-14
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Exactly, Just like if we play TP6 we will have to install a scheme to fit his talents and thats where the problem may lie seeing as though Knapp is the OC.
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Yeah, we could totally miss what talent he is.
Like if Knapp was always Dmac’s O-Coordinator we’d think he didn’t run hard, always was takled by his shoe strings and couldn’t make yards after contact.
Actually that’s what 99% of this blog said before Hue came along as O-Coordinator.
Do you guys not remember the night-and-day difference between the offense 3 years ago and 2 years ago?
ONLY real difference was scheme and play calling. Unless you really do believe that Chicago’s back-up QB made all the difference…or Grads…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I absolutely love how only the Reggie lovers who are wrong about everything point out grammer.Thats all they got,thats it.Dont bother admitting your record predictions or the player predictions like Rod Streater.Point out grammer.Some of us drink some beers and type fast and dont give a flying fk about grammer.This is a football blog,not an english class.So go buy some Rod Streater jerseys and Reggie posters and fk your mothers tonight k.Thanks.fosho.
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yeah, we know not bright. it’s funny that u attack reggie for his speaking ability and ur a buffoon.
ur not even worth talking about football with o it might as well be about ur english.
gentlemen, the newest idiot on the blog.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
The Mack Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Kelly does his job, hes a space eater, hes there to draw double teams and take on defenders so the lbs can take up that gap. Hes not there to get sacks or play hulk and stop the run by himself if you notice Reggie had nothing bad to say about the D line jus O line and gap responsibilities that the lbs are responsible for and the dbs. I dont understand the kelly hate. Just like ppl said Seymour was trash but as soon as he got injured the D got worse showing just how valuable he is and how little most posters on here know.
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The way I read it, the D line is also responsible.
Guys “coming off blocks on the other side”
Reggie also said it starts up front.
On both sides of the ball.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I’m not with all this Reggie-bashing. If you want to argue that he should’ve, at least, extended an offer to Hue to stay on as OC then I’ll listen.
I think that really would’ve been a nice buffer during this transition and kept some continuity with our strongest unit. But as for the team’s current state overall, you can’t put all that on Reggie. Most of this team, as far as players, is not guys he selected.
I’m not going to say the coaching is good, but I will say that they don’t have very much to work with. I don’t see a lot of tough, intelligent, instinctual playmakers on this roster. The only guy I see on that defense with any fire is Houston. The rest look asleep most of the time. Even Branch, who was supposed to be a franchise guy, has played terrible. Not Reggie’s fault.
Let’s talk again in two years.
I feel the frustration too, but impatience will get you nowhere.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Allowing Knapp to be our OC is unforgivable to me
November 30th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Maybe I missed it but did Reggie say he has done anything wrong????
November 30th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Allowing Knapp to be our OC is unforgivable to me
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Knapp could get a pink slip at seasons end.
Reggie doesn’t appear to be into scholarships.
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Pryor will be active, Seymour out, McFadden game-time decision Raiders coach Dennis Allen said he envisions second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor being one of the 46 players active for Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Browns. Defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), defensive end Jack Crawford (to… [...]
November 30th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Who would have been our qb this year??
Matt leinart would have been fine. even if we were sittin at one or two wins right now… whats the f’n difference??? this whole teams needs to be rubuilt.
Would have also saved alot of money this year and next year. No draft picks, saved money.. better place to start a rebuild. Palmer wont be here in two years.
Rich gannon doesnt think Palmer will be here next year. Say he is on the decline and you already know what you have with him..
November 30th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I’m not with all this Reggie-bashing. If you want to argue that he should’ve, at least, extended an offer to Hue to stay on as OC then I’ll listen.
I think that really would’ve been a nice buffer during this transition and kept some continuity with our strongest unit. But as for the team’s current state overall, you can’t put all that on Reggie. Most of this team, as far as players, is not guys he selected.
I’m not going to say the coaching is good, but I will say that they don’t have very much to work with. I don’t see a lot of tough, intelligent, instinctual playmakers on this roster. The only guy I see on that defense with any fire is Houston. The rest look asleep most of the time. Even Branch, who was supposed to be a franchise guy, has played terrible. Not Reggie’s fault.
Let’s talk again in two years.
I feel the frustration too, but impatience will get you nowhere.
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Whose fault would you say then that we regressed so badly? Or do you think it was inevitable?
People seemed at least better (maybe not great) at making plays last year for the most part.
The only thing they didn’t try was Reece at RB because they had DMAC getting 5+ ypc.
But, up until DMAC was injured they didn’t even use Reece this year. Weren’t smart enough to see a top top weapon until it smacked them in the face.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
good lord guys. it couldn’t be more clear who reggie thinks is to blame on defense. the LB’s, especially “up the middle” (mcclain), the corners, and free safety. he said the d-line was stout. he said it was about filling gaps, and staying at a good angle, instead of trying to dip around blockers (mcclain!). he said it was the corners and free safety who needed to cover better and pick the ball, so the d-line has more time to get to the passer.
even tarver said the other day that branch was having a good season.
i have said all season that mcclain, huff, and the corners sucked. looks like they agree. but he did call bartell his #1 corner, and i agree. he’s been hurt. he said lee didn’t make enuff plays.
i wish there were more guys on here who knew how to look at a football game.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Maybe I missed it but did Reggie say he has done anything wrong????
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He said it was HIS Team.
That pretty much covers it all.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I am pulling for Reggie with all my heart. I hope and pray that he simply cannot convey his intelligence via the spoken word….and there are many smart people like that in the world….I am just getting a bad feeling.
Come on Reggie!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
honestly forget a top 5 pick.
Raiders would be smart to trade down and acquire alot more draft picks like the rams did last year.
We need that stanford running back .. You can find a pass rusher in the 12-15 spot like dion jordan.. would also be able to pick up a CENTER in the 2nd round.
Someone like that bama kid.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Allowing Knapp to be our OC is unforgivable to me
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Knapp could get a pink slip at seasons end.
Reggie doesn’t appear to be into scholarships.
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
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I don’t believe he wants Knapp gone – I think Reggie is a ZBS guy also. Don’t know what he believes, but I’m sure he will bring in a lot of new people again next year.
But he does have 27 new players on the roster or something huge (almost half) that he brought in. So, it’s not true he’s stuck with players. Plus, those players made it to 8-8 last year and were a play away from the playoffs. I’d much rather have that.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I am pulling for Reggie with all my heart. I hope and pray that he simply cannot convey his intelligence via the spoken word….and there are many smart people like that in the world….I am just getting a bad feeling.
Come on Reggie!
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Now you’re talkin’ Dakota!
+1
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
291,
I agree with you. The d line did not escape culpability in reggie’s statements.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Reggie said it was his time after complaining about lack of talent and salary cap issues he inherited. More than once he absolved himself of blame for this season.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Here’s the question. Which of our coaches are progressive, forward thinking coaches? Who thinks outside the box and find the best way to make the use out of the personnel they have?
Or teach their schemes good enough that the players “execute”?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
does anyone realize what they’re doing with mcclain?
it’s pretty funny. they’re sick of hid sh!t. DA tossed him. probably told him he was done here. but then he goes on facebook/twitter and starts talking smack. so reggie says “he doesn’t decide he’s outta here. i do.” so instead, they suepend him, making him look foolish and like a loudmouth. this way they let him dangle in limbo.
if they cut him now, it’s conceivable, some contender could pick him up and use him in spots, and he gets to pretend he’s a winner. now, when they cut him, there will be three games left and the only team likely to pick him up would be another sh!t team thinking he might help them next year, which of course he won’t.
it’s brilliant. his career is done.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
yeah, we know not bright. it’s funny that u attack reggie for his speaking ability and ur a buffoon.
ur not even worth talking about football with o it might as well be about ur english.
gentlemen, the newest idiot on the blog.
Read this,and talk about grammer and spelling.What a faj!If your referring to raidero your right,Im an american and he’s a camel piss smelling dot head.Fk you a$$hole!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
raiderzmaverick, I would say it was inevitable.
We’re talking about an 8-8 team that lost, arguably, it’s best defender from last year (Wimbley), along with one half of our two-headed monster backfield (Bush). And they had no draft picks or room to work the cap.
The regression? We got worse, and a lot of other teams got better. Staff still finding it’s footing, no depth.
We can’t panic yet. Did anyone expect this team to make the playoffs? I didn’t.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
JB Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
It’s going to be brutal out there Sunday. Forecasted downpours, overall miserable weather conditions, muddy wet field, a near the bottom of the barrel team that we always seem to play down to, a potential five game losing streak, an opponent with strong running game, our defense, no live TV coverage locally, all good reasons just to say screw it. I gave my 2 tickets to my son to use. I’m hoping the game will be tape delayed. Anyone know if it will be televised later?
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Reg season games are not tape delayed. Blackout is a blackout.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
I’m not with all this Reggie-bashing. If you want to argue that he should’ve, at least, extended an offer to Hue to stay on as OC then I’ll listen.
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HCs don’t get demoted to OCs. It just doesn’t happen. They’ll take a lower position on another team, but not the same team.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Hey EastOak. That is too funny. DA and knapp brought their checkerboard and chips to a chess game. That is the closest analogy I’ve yet to hear and it pretty much sums up this season. And Reggie endorsed it. Unbelievable.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
And after dmac goes off and we crush the browns what will some of you self proclaimed experts be saying then? Streater, Criner and burris. Thay are good players. reggie and DA will turn this thing around. It’s a team full of thugs like the town they paly in. Going to take time.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I agree with the decision to suspend McClain even though I hope the end result is that he is cut. Don’t let him act like an idiot then get rewarded by signing with another team.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
295.RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Allowing Knapp to be our OC is unforgivable to me
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Knapp could get a pink slip at seasons end.
Reggie doesn’t appear to be into scholarships.
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
============================================ You dont know who he’ll discuss it with.Shut
up.This guy sounds like he works in the raider building or something.You aint sht geek.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Hue finished the season at 1-4 and lost to TEBOW! He did not get one interview as head coach after he was canned. He is who we thought he was… an OC.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
I’m not with all this Reggie-bashing. If you want to argue that he should’ve, at least, extended an offer to Hue to stay on as OC then I’ll listen.
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HCs don’t get demoted to OCs. It just doesn’t happen. They’ll take a lower position on another team, but not the same team.
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So, you’re saying he’d rather be Cincy’s special teams coach than our OC? I kind of doubt that.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
If your referring to raidero your right,Im an american and he’s a camel piss smelling dot head.Fk you a$$hole!
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hahah! americans hate clowns like u. racist idiot that can’t even talk, let alone have an intelligent discussion. u offer nothing here.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
does anyone realize what they’re doing with mcclain?
it’s pretty funny. they’re sick of hid sh!t. DA tossed him. probably told him he was done here. but then he goes on facebook/twitter and starts talking smack. so reggie says “he doesn’t decide he’s outta here. i do.” so instead, they suepend him, making him look foolish and like a loudmouth. this way they let him dangle in limbo.
if they cut him now, it’s conceivable, some contender could pick him up and use him in spots, and he gets to pretend he’s a winner. now, when they cut him, there will be three games left and the only team likely to pick him up would be another sh!t team thinking he might help them next year, which of course he won’t.
it’s brilliant. his career is done.
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That might be the case, but be prepared for a eye opener to the depth and credibility of this staff if he starts against KC. Remember, Reggie endorsed these clowns today.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
#307,
That cuts right to the chase. Of course players deserve a lot of blame for the team’s performance, but good coaches would have adjusted by now and we should have seen, at minimum, marginal improvent in some areas. Instead we have seen a complete collapse in all areas as the season progresses.
Reggie will show his true intelligence this offseason. If he allows da to keep this coaching staff, well, then Reggie is about as smart as he sounds…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
============================================ The word discuss doesnt need to be hyphenated idiot.Shut up. I hate little pzzies like you.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
So, you’re saying he’d rather be Cincy’s special teams coach than our OC? I kind of doubt that.
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OK. Since you’re an expert, why don’t you list all the instances of NFL HCs being demoted to lesser positions within the same organization?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
does anyone realize what they’re doing with mcclain?
it’s pretty funny. they’re sick of hid sh!t. DA tossed him. probably told him he was done here. but then he goes on facebook/twitter and starts talking smack. so reggie says “he doesn’t decide he’s outta here. i do.” so instead, they suepend him, making him look foolish and like a loudmouth. this way they let him dangle in limbo.
if they cut him now, it’s conceivable, some contender could pick him up and use him in spots, and he gets to pretend he’s a winner. now, when they cut him, there will be three games left and the only team likely to pick him up would be another sh!t team thinking he might help them next year, which of course he won’t.
it’s brilliant. his career is done.
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That might be the case, but be prepared for a eye opener to the depth and credibility of this staff if he starts against KC. Remember, Reggie endorsed these clowns today.
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if mcclain ever suits up for the raiders again, i will know that this staff and gm have no balls whatsoever, nor the ability to see a garbage player when it’s in front of them.
they are playing a bit of a game with him right now, and protecting themselves, while f#cking his career up. a bit of ol’ al davis right there.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Reggiehater is it hard to type while you’re wearing that white pointy hood? Just wondering… lol
November 30th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
============================================ The word discuss doesnt need to be hyphenated idiot.Shut up. I hate little pzzies like you.
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did u just say hyphenated when u meant it doesn’t need quotation marks?
i love when the uneducated call everyone else dumb.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
319.dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
If your referring to raidero your right,Im an american and he’s a camel piss smelling dot head.Fk you a$$hole!
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hahah! americans hate clowns like u. racist idiot that can’t even talk, let alone have an intelligent discussion. u offer nothing here.
=================================== I will offer an a$$ woopin you little piece of sht.Americans love people like me.Its guys like me that make america great. Guys like you are the reason immigrants are trying to take over.Your a little bich.Listen to yourself.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Who would have been our qb this year??
Matt leinart would have been fine. even if we were sittin at one or two wins right now… whats the f’n difference??? this whole teams needs to be rubuilt.
Would have also saved alot of money this year and next year. No draft picks, saved money.. better place to start a rebuild. Palmer wont be here in two years.
Rich gannon doesnt think Palmer will be here next year. Say he is on the decline and you already know what you have with him..
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I didn’t take that away from the interview w/ Gannon. I thought he was more saying since we DO know what we have in Palmer why not take a look at Pryor at this point just to see if we have anything with him.
I don’t recall Gannon saying Palmer wouldn’t be the man next yr. Maybe I missed that.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Dr He’s just another dude who should have gone to high school. So sad…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RaidingTexas, why don’t you?
I never said I was an expert. I’m just suggesting that’s one way it could’ve played out. And, correct me if I’m wrong, I think we’d all be more impressed with our offense.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Chappy23us Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I agree with the decision to suspend McClain even though I hope the end result is that he is cut. Don’t let him act like an idiot then get rewarded by signing with another team.
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The bloodletting is getting a bit more serious now.
The guys that were released because of “out of whack” contracts was the 1st wave.
The 2nd was the OK contracts of players that under performed.
Now we are seeing “sacred cows” getting the ax.
I’m down for the overhaul, but will “scrutinize” Reggie’s moves in the up coming draft and FA.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
mcclain is a complete idiot. a guy that has made a lot of money for sucking has no respect or appreciation for the organization that paid him so much money. just shows his sense of entitlement and immaturity. a straight up punk b!tch.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
and the melt down begins. Better get another 12 pack of keystone hater. You’re going to need it… lol
November 30th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
============================================ The word discuss doesnt need to be hyphenated idiot.Shut up. I hate little pzzies like you.
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LMAO! Really? Apparently you didn’t take an English class while you were at Stetson U. Those are called quotations you big dummy.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
i love when the uneducated call everyone else dumb.
You love it when there is a cok in your mouth you mean.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Riff….? You still around? I’d like to know how you explain the massive regression in these areas despite virtually same personnel if not by scheme and coaching?
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I had to bounce for a second. Blame my chic.
Anyways, Im not sure you answered my question.
Do you honestly feel you are qualified to break down NFL game tape? And if so, have you actually rewateched any of the games to evaluate whether its actual scheme or players missing their assignments?
I’ll gladly get to your question about regression once we get past that point. And also after we get past the next one, which is the difference between “beliefs” and “opinions”.
Beliefs are unchangeable. Religious people believe in their faith, and even when the world was proven not to be flat, they still stuck to their beliefs in light of new evidence to the contrary.
If you are going to stick to your “beliefs” about the Raiders situation, then their is no bother for me to explain the football side of things.
Now if you are simply of the misguided “opinion” (due to lack of knowlegdge or research) that our coaches are the issue, I’ll gladly try and educate you about the situation. We can debate further after I state my case, but if you are forced to face the facts in light of evidence and still stick to your “beliefs” instead of changing your “opinion” then I’ve completely wasted my time.
I talk with coaches all the time. I talk about the Raiders issues. People that know football dont argue about this stuff. None of it is debateable. The only reason why you see people arguing on pregame shows is because they are told to by producers because debate sells. But when the cameras are off and the ex-players and coaches are watching the game in the studio amongst themselves, there isnt a whole lot of debate going on. They know whats up.
What Im trying to do is give you some insight as to what they are saying about our situation.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
LMAO! Really? Apparently you didn’t take an English class while you were at Stetson U. Those are called quotations you big dummy.
Yes quotations.Anymore playoff predictions jacka$$? AAA HAAAAAA.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
The Mack Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Kelly does his job, hes a space eater, hes there to draw double teams and take on defenders so the lbs can take up that gap. Hes not there to get sacks or play hulk and stop the run by himself if you notice Reggie had nothing bad to say about the D line jus O line and gap responsibilities that the lbs are responsible for and the dbs. I dont understand the kelly hate. Just like ppl said Seymour was trash but as soon as he got injured the D got worse showing just how valuable he is and how little most posters on here know.
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Bingo.
Ive been saying it since week 3.
If anyone of you review the tape, you see our interior line has done their job. Ive notified many of the smarter semi’s here that after much review, they needed to point their hatred towards Kelly and Seymore somewhere else because those guys are doing their job.
Some listened, some stuck to their “beliefs”
Anyways, nice post Mack. You hit it out the ball park.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
ESETERIK78,
It just doesn’t work out that way. Coaches have egos.
A perfect example: Wade Philips was offered the chance to remain as the Cowboys’ DC when Garrett replaced him. Wade told Jerry Jones “no thank you”. And then he moved on to Houston.
It’s a pride thing. That’s how the world works.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
If Reggie wants Knapp gone, He’ll “discuss” it with DA.
============================================ The word discuss doesnt need to be hyphenated idiot.Shut up. I hate little pzzies like you.
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You’re right.
And wrong.
I didn’t hyphenate it.
I put in quotations to emphasise the word “discuss”, which would mean in the context of my statement that Reggie would have final say.
Idiot.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
329.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Dr He’s just another dude who should have gone to high school. So sad…
Use an english screen name wetback or get the fk out.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Who would have been our qb this year??
Matt leinart would have been fine. even if we were sittin at one or two wins right now… whats the f’n difference??? this whole teams needs to be rubuilt.
Would have also saved alot of money this year and next year. No draft picks, saved money.. better place to start a rebuild. Palmer wont be here in two years.
Rich gannon doesnt think Palmer will be here next year. Say he is on the decline and you already know what you have with him..
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I didn’t take that away from the interview w/ Gannon. I thought he was more saying since we DO know what we have in Palmer why not take a look at Pryor at this point just to see if we have anything with him.
I don’t recall Gannon saying Palmer wouldn’t be the man next yr. Maybe I missed that.
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Gannon has been spot on about this team since day one.
Everyone here was hating on him this offseason, I was about the only person defending him. I didnt necessarily agree with him, but I know he knows a hell of a lot more than me so I didnt take his sentiments lightly.
When Gannon speaks, smart people should listen.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Reggie should slap Mark Davis for being the son of one of the worst talent evaluators since 1990……..
November 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
they are playing a bit of a game with him right now, and protecting themselves, while f#cking his career up. a bit of ol’ al davis right there.
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That is a big if. You may be giving them a little more smarts than they got. But it is a entertaining thought to think they took a page from Al. There could be hope after all. Faint and distant, but hope perhaps.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
319.dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
If your referring to raidero your right,Im an american and he’s a camel piss smelling dot head.Fk you a$$hole!
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hahah! americans hate clowns like u. racist idiot that can’t even talk, let alone have an intelligent discussion. u offer nothing here.
=================================== I will offer an a$$ woopin you little piece of sht.Americans love people like me.Its guys like me that make america great. Guys like you are the reason immigrants are trying to take over.Your a little bich.Listen to yourself.
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first of all, i would beat u to a pulp. easily.
secondly, americans can’t stand racist turds like u. we hate the clan. we hate dumb white trash southerners. we also hate guys like mistic. terr-orists. any lame brain moron. which includes u.
america was made great by being a melting pot, dummy. all of them came from somewhere else. ur just one of many dumbbells in history who think only people who look like u are welcome in “your” country. but ur clueless.
immigrants aren’t trying to “take over”. there’s no proof of that whatsoever. they just give u a convenient target so u don’t feel so bad about ur life. u don’t wanna feel like the lowest on the totem pole, so u look for someone to degrade. just a psychological misfit.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I put in quotations to emphasise the word “discuss”, which would mean in the context of my statement that Reggie would have final say.
Idiot.
I would put a set of quotations in your a$$ face to face little puss
November 30th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RaidingTexas
It just doesn’t work out that way. Coaches have egos.
A perfect example: Wade Philips was offered the chance to remain as the Cowboys’ DC when Garrett replaced him. Wade told Jerry Jones “no thank you”. And then he moved on to Houston.
It’s a pride thing. That’s how the world works.
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Fair enough. It’s all pointless to talk about now anyway. We have who we have until we don’t.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
I’m behind you Reggie. Some people on this board can crack jokes (the jokes are funny by the way) all they want but I do realize your in a tough situation. I’m with you Chris in NY, when Reggie speaks you get a sense that he is working around the clock to write the ship. I will be patient with Reggie, DA? I want to see how he handles the rest of season then ill decide on him. But you Knapp, You need to get the hell of this team NOW!!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
immigrants aren’t trying to “take over”. there’s no proof of that whatsoever. they just give u a convenient target so u don’t feel so bad about ur life. u don’t wanna feel like the lowest on the totem pole, so u look for someone to degrade. just a psychological misfit.
immigrants Immigrant’s they They u you ur your just Just You receive an F idiot.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
329.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Dr He’s just another dude who should have gone to high school. So sad…
Use an english screen name wetback or get the fk out.
*************
but nobody likes YOU here. we want YOU to leave.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Name me one GM, especially one whip inherited the worst train wreck of a roster, that got fired after one season?????
I’m waiting…….
November 30th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I put in quotations to emphasise the word “discuss”, which would mean in the context of my statement that Reggie would have final say.
Idiot.
I would put a set of quotations in your a$$ face to face little puss
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so u would reach into his azz and put air quotes in there with both hands? gay.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I put in quotations to emphasise the word “discuss”, which would mean in the context of my statement that Reggie would have final say.
Idiot.
I would put a set of quotations in your a$$ face to face little puss
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LOL!
I’ll buy you a beer.
That was funny.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Riff….? You still around? I’d like to know how you explain the massive regression in these areas despite virtually same personnel if not by scheme and coaching?
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I had to bounce for a second. Blame my chic.
Anyways, Im not sure you answered my question.
Do you honestly feel you are qualified to break down NFL game tape? And if so, have you actually rewateched any of the games to evaluate whether its actual scheme or players missing their assignments?
I’ll gladly get to your question about regression once we get past that point. And also after we get past the next one, which is the difference between “beliefs” and “opinions”.
Beliefs are unchangeable. Religious people believe in their faith, and even when the world was proven not to be flat, they still stuck to their beliefs in light of new evidence to the contrary.
If you are going to stick to your “beliefs” about the Raiders situation, then their is no bother for me to explain the football side of things.
Now if you are simply of the misguided “opinion” (due to lack of knowlegdge or research) that our coaches are the issue, I’ll gladly try and educate you about the situation. We can debate further after I state my case, but if you are forced to face the facts in light of evidence and still stick to your “beliefs” instead of changing your “opinion” then I’ve completely wasted my time.
I talk with coaches all the time. I talk about the Raiders issues. People that know football dont argue about this stuff. None of it is debateable. The only reason why you see people arguing on pregame shows is because they are told to by producers because debate sells. But when the cameras are off and the ex-players and coaches are watching the game in the studio amongst themselves, there isnt a whole lot of debate going on. They know whats up.
What Im trying to do is give you some insight as to what they are saying about our situation.
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Why don’t you go ahead.
I’d like to hear your certainty (not belief or opinion) on why Dmac ran for barely 4 ypc (or under) for all the years except under Jackson if not for scheme or playcalling.
And why, the O-Line looks much worse for wear this year when the only player we lost was Satelle.
The only changes I know of are the coaches and the schemes. So, if that has nothing to do with it, then please do enlighten me. I’m a very logical person. If you state your case and it is reasonable you may be able to sway me from my “belief”
November 30th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
first of all, i would beat u to a pulp. easily =============================================== Really? Its a small world.Watch your mouth.I’d smash your little face in and post the pictures on this blog.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
immigrants aren’t trying to “take over”. there’s no proof of that whatsoever. they just give u a convenient target so u don’t feel so bad about ur life. u don’t wanna feel like the lowest on the totem pole, so u look for someone to degrade. just a psychological misfit.
immigrants Immigrant’s they They u you ur your just Just You receive an F idiot.
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actually, genius, immigrants is plural. ur saying it should have an apostrophe (or is that a hyphen!), means the immigrants would own something, like “that’s an immigrants foot up reggiehater’s azz.”
November 30th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
immigrant’s
November 30th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Oakfoshow > ReggieHater
November 30th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
but nobody likes YOU here. we want YOU to leave.
I care.Come show me the door so I can kill you.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Brien’s cousin is in some trouble.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/30/3942406/haith-says-dixons-suspension-was.html
November 30th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
first of all, i would beat u to a pulp. easily =============================================== Really? Its a small world.Watch your mouth.I’d smash your little face in and post the pictures on this blog.
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i’m not little.
i’ve kicked more punk azz like urs than u will ever know.
u can’t post pics here.
u really are very ………….well, let’s just say, not bright.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
immigrants aren’t trying to “take over”. there’s no proof of that whatsoever. they just give u a convenient target so u don’t feel so bad about ur life. u don’t wanna feel like the lowest on the totem pole, so u look for someone to degrade. just a psychological misfit.
immigrants Immigrant’s they They u you ur your just Just You receive an F idiot.
You might want to start your sentences with a capital fk face.Basic.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
303Raider, I’m with you 100%.
Reggie was highly regarded by some of the most successful people in this league.
But I’m sure everyone here would’ve taken this team the distance.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
immigrants aren’t trying to “take over”. there’s no proof of that whatsoever. they just give u a convenient target so u don’t feel so bad about ur life. u don’t wanna feel like the lowest on the totem pole, so u look for someone to degrade. just a psychological misfit.
immigrants Immigrant’s they They u you ur your just Just You receive an F idiot.
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actually, genius, immigrants is plural. ur saying it should have an apostrophe (or is that a hyphen!), means the immigrants would own something, like “that’s an immigrants foot up reggiehater’s azz.”
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Hahaha!
You can’t make this shiiit up! lol
November 30th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
reghater soon to be banned. guzzle up hater. you’re going to have to think of a ne handle… lol
November 30th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
but nobody likes YOU here. we want YOU to leave.
I care.Come show me the door so I can kill you.
*************
LOL! go ahead. kill me. on a blog. for the first time ever, i will say that this guy really is having a meltdown. poor little dude. probably about the size of eminem. wife beater. perpetrates all hip-hop fashion yet hates minorities. an mtv gangster. priceless.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
***************
i’m not little.
i’ve kicked more punk azz like urs than u will ever know.
Anybody who talks like you couldnt woop sht.Listen to yourself girly mouth.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
immigrants aren’t trying to “take over”. there’s no proof of that whatsoever. they just give u a convenient target so u don’t feel so bad about ur life. u don’t wanna feel like the lowest on the totem pole, so u look for someone to degrade. just a psychological misfit.
immigrants Immigrant’s they They u you ur your just Just You receive an F idiot.
You might want to start your sentences with a capital fk face.Basic.
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make me
November 30th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
YO GOOBS
I’m startin to smell ass in here. Think I’ll just drop a lawg to freshen this place up.
YAWL BUST THAT NUT
November 30th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Raiders Riff, I just don’t get where you’re trying to come from. Are you saying that scheme doesn’t have anything to do with success or doesn’t effect performance?
How would you explain players bombing when they go to different teams that were great? Why would Aso play well in the scheme here and then bomb it in Phily?
Why would Dmac have such a difference in production if not for the scheme?
Why would Houston’s defense be their failure for YEARS and then when their DCoordinator comes in a few years ago they’re suddenly top 10 year after year?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
365.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
reghater soon to be banned. guzzle up hater. you’re going to have to think of a ne handle… lol
DAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAAD cry.Already have.Immigrant slicer
November 30th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
reggiehater = a racist keystone guzzling fool who has no life. should have stayed in school fool. so sad..
November 30th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
***************
i’m not little.
i’ve kicked more punk azz like urs than u will ever know.
Anybody who talks like you couldnt woop sht.Listen to yourself girly mouth.
************
6′2″/220. f@cked up many a sh!t talking fool in my life. i’m gonna guess ur about 5′9″/150.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
make me
What state you live in? I travel alot.Bring your wife please.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
The coroners reported cause of death: Misuse of an interpretation of a hyphenation.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
the slicer!!! nice…
November 30th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
oakfoshow/reggiehater is a real life blog tuff guy. he may not make a lot of sense or speak so well, but man can he “kill people” on here.
did i just hyphenate that?
November 30th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
make me
What state you live in? I travel alot.Bring your wife please.
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sunnyvale, california b1tch.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
6′2″/220. WOW I didnt know they stacked sht that high. Not big enough little man.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
i think i will refer to reggiehater form now on as the “hyphenated killer”.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
tuff guy behind a keyboard . Laughing at the moron…. too funny. “The Slicer!” what a joke. so pathetic… and kind of sad in a strange sort of way.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
sunnyvale, california b1tch.
SUNNYVALE???? PZZYVALE. Compton. Born and bread.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
6′2″/220. WOW I didnt know they stacked sht that high. Not big enough little man.
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LOL. plenty big. plenty bad. former football player. too many bar fights to count. better just go “kill” someone else “hyphenated killer”.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
The reality is at 8-8 we overachieved last year.
We are actually closer to our current record.
#1 reason- years of crappy drafts by the Dad of Mark Davis
#2 reason – DA was picked as HC
Reggie will be the main reason we get out of this mess. Give him some drafts, we will be OK.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
DAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAAD cry.Already have.Immigrant slicer
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was he saying he had already thought of a new nickname for himself and it was slicer?
or was he calling u an immigrant slicer?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
381.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
tuff guy behind a keyboard . Laughing at the moron…. too funny. “The Slicer!” what a joke. so pathetic… and kind of sad in a strange sort of way.
HEY spiq.Stop trying to make friends.Not working.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Mora has done a good job at UCLA. Wish I could say the same thing about Oaklands HC. I really do.
But here’s my final take. If Reggie and DA want to blow this up, fine. It’s their gig. But please root out the rest of the riff raff on the coaching staff.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
it’s spic, dummy. not sure why u thought there was a q.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Gotta have players, and scheme that best utilizes the abilities.
The two are hand and glove.
Organizations that best match players to scheme win.
Continuity of scheme, and throughout out an organization leads to efficiency in scouting and player development.
Reggie is trying to get the train on this track.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
the “hyphenated killer” don’t speak so good.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
LOL. plenty big. plenty bad. former football player. too many bar fights to count. better just go “kill” someone else “hyphenated killer”.
Former football player and bar fighter from umm SUNNYVALE. AAAAA HAAAAA. Any idea at all what I would do to a pzzy like you? SUNNYVALE. OMFG!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
no mas can be my friend. we’ll make fun of the “hyphenated killer” and “immigrant slicer” together. it will be fun.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
LOL. plenty big. plenty bad. former football player. too many bar fights to count. better just go “kill” someone else “hyphenated killer”.
Former football player and bar fighter from umm SUNNYVALE. AAAAA HAAAAA. Any idea at all what I would do to a pzzy like you? SUNNYVALE. OMFG!!!
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i’m from south bend indiana. and pal, all there is to do in south bend, is play football, drink, f#ck and beat punk azz.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
SUNNYVALE.Should have never told me that.You sir have just provided me with jokes for the entire weekend.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Raider Riff, Man, you try to insult my football intelligance, but don’t give the answer you keep promosing. I’m still waiting man!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
ur f#cking with a corn fed midwestern fighter and it would be easy to mess u up. i can tell ur a punk.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
INDIANA??? Even gayer then SUNNYVALE!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
i’m from south bend indiana. and pal, all there is to do in south bend, is play football, drink, f#ck and beat punk azz.
usually in the same night, and no particular order.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
blogs gone to hell. later. reggiehater you will be gone by the time I come back in the morning.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
SUNNYVALE.Should have never told me that.You sir have just provided me with jokes for the entire weekend.
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yeah, i live in sunnyvale now. u know. where the millionaires live. where the cost of living is the highest in the country. po boy don’t know nuttin’ bout dat do ya?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
ur f#cking with a corn fed midwestern fighter and it would be easy to mess u up. i can tell ur a punk.
No,im fkn with a total fkn pzzy with a big mouth.Would love to meet ya just once. Make ya forget about all that corn.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Robert, do you still live in South Bend?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
reggiehater–where u from punk?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
oh wait–weren’t u “raised in compton”? LOL!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
yeah, i live in sunnyvale now. u know. where the millionaires live. where the cost of living is the highest in the country. po boy don’t know nuttin’ bout dat do ya?
NOPE.Im from Compton.Grew up killing pzzies like you.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Robert, do you still live in South Bend?
***********
sunnyvale
November 30th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
INDIANA??? Even gayer then SUNNYVALE!
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Reggiehater,
When you run from a fight do your saggy britches trip you up?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
yeah, i live in sunnyvale now. u know. where the millionaires live. where the cost of living is the highest in the country. po boy don’t know nuttin’ bout dat do ya?
NOPE.Im from Compton.Grew up killing pzzies like you.
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LOL!!! hahahahhahahhahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
hahhahahahhahahahhahaha!!!!!!!!
it’s eazy e!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
Why don’t you go ahead.
I’d like to hear your certainty (not belief or opinion) on why Dmac ran for barely 4 ypc (or under) for all the years except under Jackson if not for scheme or playcalling.
And why, the O-Line looks much worse for wear this year when the only player we lost was Satelle.
The only changes I know of are the coaches and the schemes. So, if that has nothing to do with it, then please do enlighten me. I’m a very logical person. If you state your case and it is reasonable you may be able to sway me from my “belief”
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Well, if it is your “belief”, then Im probably wasting my time.
The DMC issue… he came from a ZBS in college and he was successful in it with Cable. It’s not that he cant be a ZBS back. So lets move on from that. If you examine the tape, you see our O-Line is horrible. It never changes the line of scrimmage, and you see it often get pushed backwards. It’s a physicallity thing.
So now that we’ve established that DMC’s issues are the guys blocking for him because that is what the tape shows, lets now examine whats wrong with the O-Line:
Barnes has never been good. So lets stop acting like he regressed.
Briesel is just horrible. He was supposedly a good ZBS guy in Texas but Ive never watched film on him. I trust that Reggie thought he was getting a better player. Who knows what Briesel’s problem is but he isnt playing like the guy Reggie thought he signed and you cant blame scheme in his case.
Wiz is not a good C. He’s getting beat off the ball. Again, its a physicallity thing. And changing positions for these lineman is VERY difficult. So lets not act like we only lost Satelle. 3 of the 5 guys are different this year. Wiz may be the same player, but he’s in a new position.
Cooper finally reached that tipping point. Getting beat physically because he’s just too old. He will not be here next year.
Veldheer, again, getting beat physically. I dont know why. But as Reggie said, if youre getting beat physically in a ZBS, youre going to get beat physically in a PBS.
Meyers, our supposed TE whose strength has always been his blocking, CANT BLOCK. The tape dont lie. The worst transgression was when Lechler’s punt was blocked. Meyer’s clearly took the play off. UNACCEPTABLE.
Hue wanted to gut this team also. So if the previous coach thought the players let him down, and the current staff thinks so, who are we to argue?
Furthermore, how impossible is our O-line/running game’s position when our passing game is so poor. We seem to make the biggest mistakes at the worst times. Should I list them all? I will if you want.
Streaters fumble & drops
DHBs drops
We have 3 of the top 15 dropped pass WR’s in the league
Barnes holding on the Hagan TD
Reece letting one go thru his hands for a INT
Meyers doing the same thing
DMCs drops
DMo’s constant poor route running and inability to read the defense and change his route in sync with his QB
Teams dont recover from those mistakes. Now when we consistently make them quarter after quarter.
When you have a passing game that is so inept as ours, it really limits what a OC can call and puts even more pressure on our run game, of which, by that point, the defense is keyed in on stopping. They dont have to worry about our passing game because its largely ineffective.
You see regression, but the tape shows the same miscues we had with Hue, which is why he wanted to guy the team that went 1-4 down the stretch and cost him his job. Because if he makes the playoffs, we cant fire him no matter what postgame rant he goes on.
You can blame Chucky B and Al’s defenseive scheme all you want, but that scheme & coach also got us to a SB when we had very talented players on the roster. We have a bunch of fools gold now and that is why Al’s system didnt work and why the same players dont work in a “real defense”.
When we had Andy Dalton backed up and it was 3rd and 11 after the fight last week, did we not have the right defense called? Of course we did. The WR absolutely punked Branch and Gio. They had him double covered and still they couldnt even get an eye on the ball let alone a hand. That isnt the coachings fault. That is the players. Dalton had nowhere else to go. Watch the tape, everyone else on the D did there job so he just heaves up what should have been a INT/punt which is no loss for him and his team. But instead of breaking up the play, we let them make it and the game is lost from there.
It’s unacceaptable. And its indefenseable. The tape doesnt lie, it never does. Compare last years games to this years and you see the same crap from the same guys. Pick apart the stats all you want, but we had a easier schedule. If youre as reasonable and logical as you say you are, then you know there is know way you can say that stats trump film when telling a story.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
INDIANA??? Even gayer then SUNNYVALE!
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Reggiehater,
When you run from a fight do your saggy britches trip you up?
**************
he’s a white kid born and raised in compton!
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!!
can u imagine the beatdowns this kid took?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Sunnvale.Where the millionaires live.Tough guy for sure.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Sunnvale.Where the millionaires live.Tough guy for sure.
************
tough. and living large b!tch.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Oakofshow is in Florida.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Listen to yourself sunnvale.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
palm trees. great schools and neighborhoods. low crime. maxing and relaxing b!tch.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Listen to yourself sunnvale.
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no. u listen to urself “hyphenated killer”.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Oakofshow is in Florida.
Absolutly.SO easy to find.Come on 6ft 2.Bring some of that sunnyvale.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Raiders Riff, I just don’t get where you’re trying to come from. Are you saying that scheme doesn’t have anything to do with success or doesn’t effect performance?
How would you explain players bombing when they go to different teams that were great? Why would Aso play well in the scheme here and then bomb it in Phily?
Why would Dmac have such a difference in production if not for the scheme?
Why would Houston’s defense be their failure for YEARS and then when their DCoordinator comes in a few years ago they’re suddenly top 10 year after year?
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Look at our draft since 2004
Look at every 1st round pick weve had
And then it doesnt become a question of why we have so little talent on this team. It becomes glaringly obvious.
We’ve had a REALLY bad run of draft picks.
2004 – Gallery? Didnt work out, for a number of reasons.
2005 – Fabien? Was decent, but not worth the pick
2006 – Huff? Hard to say he sucks when we were running that D scheme for all these years
2007 – Jamarcus? Franchise was a dumpster
2008 – DMC? Cant stay healthy long enough to have a positive impact
2009 – DHB? Works hard but still cant catch
2010 – Rolando? Total bust of his own doing
2011 – Seymore? Weve wasted his talents
2012 – Palmer? We’re wasting his talents
It’s pretty dang hard for a org to stockpile talent with a track record like that. We’ve had nearly a decade of wasted 1st rd picks. Some were the orgs fault, some the players, the reason is NOT the debate. Its just the fact of the matter and the reality of our roster. It should remind us of just how much work their is to do.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
409.Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
Why don’t you go ahead.
I’d like to hear your certainty (not belief or opinion) on why Dmac ran for barely 4 ypc (or under) for all the years except under Jackson if not for scheme or playcalling.
And why, the O-Line looks much worse for wear this year when the only player we lost was Satelle.
The only changes I know of are the coaches and the schemes. So, if that has nothing to do with it, then please do enlighten me. I’m a very logical person. If you state your case and it is reasonable you may be able to sway me from my “belief”
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Well, if it is your “belief”, then Im probably wasting my time.
The DMC issue… he came from a ZBS in college and he was successful in it with Cable. It’s not that he cant be a ZBS back. So lets move on from that. If you examine the tape, you see our O-Line is horrible. It never changes the line of scrimmage, and you see it often get pushed backwards. It’s a physicallity thing.
So now that we’ve established that DMC’s issues are the guys blocking for him because that is what the tape shows, lets now examine whats wrong with the O-Line:
Barnes has never been good. So lets stop acting like he regressed.
Briesel is just horrible. He was supposedly a good ZBS guy in Texas but Ive never watched film on him. I trust that Reggie thought he was getting a better player. Who knows what Briesel’s problem is but he isnt playing like the guy Reggie thought he signed and you cant blame scheme in his case.
Wiz is not a good C. He’s getting beat off the ball. Again, its a physicallity thing. And changing positions for these lineman is VERY difficult. So lets not act like we only lost Satelle. 3 of the 5 guys are different this year. Wiz may be the same player, but he’s in a new position.
Cooper finally reached that tipping point. Getting beat physically because he’s just too old. He will not be here next year.
Veldheer, again, getting beat physically. I dont know why. But as Reggie said, if youre getting beat physically in a ZBS, youre going to get beat physically in a PBS.
Meyers, our supposed TE whose strength has always been his blocking, CANT BLOCK. The tape dont lie. The worst transgression was when Lechler’s punt was blocked. Meyer’s clearly took the play off. UNACCEPTABLE.
Hue wanted to gut this team also. So if the previous coach thought the players let him down, and the current staff thinks so, who are we to argue?
Furthermore, how impossible is our O-line/running game’s position when our passing game is so poor. We seem to make the biggest mistakes at the worst times. Should I list them all? I will if you want.
Streaters fumble & drops
DHBs drops
We have 3 of the top 15 dropped pass WR’s in the league
Barnes holding on the Hagan TD
Reece letting one go thru his hands for a INT
Meyers doing the same thing
DMCs drops
DMo’s constant poor route running and inability to read the defense and change his route in sync with his QB
Teams dont recover from those mistakes. Now when we consistently make them quarter after quarter.
When you have a passing game that is so inept as ours, it really limits what a OC can call and puts even more pressure on our run game, of which, by that point, the defense is keyed in on stopping. They dont have to worry about our passing game because its largely ineffective.
You see regression, but the tape shows the same miscues we had with Hue, which is why he wanted to guy the team that went 1-4 down the stretch and cost him his job. Because if he makes the playoffs, we cant fire him no matter what postgame rant he goes on.
You can blame Chucky B and Al’s defenseive scheme all you want, but that scheme & coach also got us to a SB when we had very talented players on the roster. We have a bunch of fools gold now and that is why Al’s system didnt work and why the same players dont work in a “real defense”.
When we had Andy Dalton backed up and it was 3rd and 11 after the fight last week, did we not have the right defense called? Of course we did. The WR absolutely punked Branch and Gio. They had him double covered and still they couldnt even get an eye on the ball let alone a hand. That isnt the coachings fault. That is the players. Dalton had nowhere else to go. Watch the tape, everyone else on the D did there job so he just heaves up what should have been a INT/punt which is no loss for him and his team. But instead of breaking up the play, we let them make it and the game is lost from there.
It’s unacceaptable. And its indefenseable. The tape doesnt lie, it never does. Compare last years games to this years and you see the same crap from the same guys. Pick apart the stats all you want, but we had a easier schedule. If youre as reasonable and logical as you say you are, then you know there is know way you can say that stats trump film when telling a story.
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Boom.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
From Compton…lmao
For being a loser troll, you sure are relentless. Born in Compton, attended Stetson U in Florida and still lives here. hahahahaha
Or were you going to “kill me” from California?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
no. u listen to urself “hyphenated killer”.
Well seeing how your a MILLIONAIRE.You probably come here very often.No problem right.I’ll knock the fkn Sunnvale right out ya a$$.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Sunnvale.Where the millionaires live.Tough guy for sure.
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You’re right.
Millionaires aren’t tough.
They are Smart and tough.
They let fools act tough and pose, and then take the money to the bank.
The fools then run in with guns and try to make a withdrawal. LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Left Compton at 18.Now live in Deland Florida.Right outside Daytona Beach.The millionaire’s travel agent should hane no problem booking that.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
” I’m the Hater! AKA The “Hyphenated Slicer”… The Slicer of immigrants. Keystone guzzlin’ white pointy hood wearing bad azz! thanks for the laughs… omg lol
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Small town.Easy to get here.Pleasure will be all mine big mouth.Listen to yourself.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
419 Great Post Edward
November 30th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Im undefeated against so called millionaires.lol. what a joke.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
We’ve lead or been close to leading nearly all of the games the first half of this season.
That means the scheme was working. And there was no reason to change it.
Mental miscues, which are verifiable by the gametape, is what did us in, EVERY SINGLE TIME.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
419 Great Post Edward
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He was quoting me. haha
November 30th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Reggie said clearly that it starts up front and knocking people off the ball.
He want’s players that win individual matchups…period.
That sounds like AL to me, as well as every other GM.
The kicker is can Reggie find these guys, and how quickly can he do it?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
419 Great Post Edward
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He was quoting me. haha
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All good points by the way.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I remember when the Raiders came down to play the Dolphins and Oakfoshow was here asking me to recommend some nightclubs to visit here in Miami. After that you turned into a complete and utter idiot.
Good job man!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
415.dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
palm trees. great schools and neighborhoods. low crime. maxing and relaxing b!tch.
Im not a millionaire,but I can serve up a million dollar a$$ woopin!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Teach has some nice insight as well.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
432.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I remember when the Raiders came down to play the Dolphins and Oakfoshow was here asking me to recommend some nightclubs to visit here in Miami. After that you turned into a complete and utter idiot.
Good job man!
You mean after you started running your big mouth.Thats the way its been with all Reggie lovers.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
415.dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
palm trees. great schools and neighborhoods. low crime. maxing and relaxing b!tch.
Im not a millionaire,but I can serve up a million dollar a$$ woopin!
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You’d need to get a manager and into the ring.
Then maybe you’d have a chance at sniffing the million dollar ass whoopin.
Never Happen.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Furthermore, you need to understand the way football coaches operate. There are no secrets after the 100s of hours of gametape they reveiw each week. They know their weaknesses and the opponenets. They go into each game knowing what each other are going to do. They all take a HEAVILY conservative approach. That is just the way the coaching ranks are. They do it though because players cannot be expected to execute the difficult and exotic risky stuff. You have to be able to keep it simple enough for the players to handle. Thus the reason ALL game plans are VERY conservative. They basically go into a game praying their players execute. If the players are executing, then the coaches stick to the script, if they arent executing, things get ugly quick. But tossing a gameplan you worked all week on is NEVER a possibility. If the players cant handle what theyve already been given, they wont be able to handle anything else. And why would you try anything else? The gametape and planning all week prepares a team at its best at how to beat the opponent. But the game isnt a simulation, the players still have to play. And the ball isnt round, it takes funny bounces, and thus that is how games are won and lost. It’s a battle of consistency and attrition.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
couldn’t serve up mashed potatoes.. too entertaining in here
November 30th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Where’s the millionaire from sunnyvale.LOL.Hope he is booking a first class plane ticket to Daytona.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
reggie proved how stupid he is today..,
November 30th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
436.RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
415.dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
palm trees. great schools and neighborhoods. low crime. maxing and relaxing b!tch.
Im not a millionaire,but I can serve up a million dollar a$$ woopin!
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You’d need to get a manager and into the ring.
Then maybe you’d have a chance at sniffing the million dollar ass whoopin.
Never Happen.
You never answered my question.What kind of dumb filthy whore names her kid LEN?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Teach has some nice insight as well.
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Teach is one of the smart guys on this board.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
438.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
couldn’t serve up mashed potatoes.. too entertaining in here
DAAAAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAAAD please ban somebody.waaaaaaaaaaaa
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
You Internet tough guys go at it all night, eh? Lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
You never answered my question.What kind of dumb filthy whore names her kid LEN?
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That’a all you got?
Yo Mama Jokes?
LOL!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Running my big mouth because i’m being supportive of whatever this organization is trying to do to improve this team? Not every GM gets it right in their first year. There are plenty of teams out there that you can cheer for that have winning records.
Reggie isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, so you’ll basically be wasting your time insulting posters and repeating the same racist jargon everyday.
At least enjoy the cheap beer you’re drinking with a girl instead of arguing with a bunch of guys and threatening to beat ppl over the internet.
Thats what cowards and teenagers do.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
You Internet tough guys go at it all night, eh? Lol.
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Ya you remember Kell.
Brien and BHP?
Ever square off?
November 30th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
especially reggie mcstupid..,
November 30th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Running my big mouth because i’m being supportive of whatever this organization is trying to do to improve this team? Not every GM gets it right in their first year. There are plenty of teams out there that you can cheer for that have winning records.
Reggie isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, so you’ll basically be wasting your time insulting posters and repeating the same racist jargon everyday.
At least enjoy the cheap beer you’re drinking with a girl instead of arguing with a bunch of guys and threatening to beat ppl over the internet.
Thats what cowards and teenagers do.
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Hello. Lol.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
446.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Running my big mouth because i’m being supportive of whatever this organization is trying to do to improve this team? Not every GM gets it right in their first year. There are plenty of teams out there that you can cheer for that have winning records.
Reggie isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, so you’ll basically be wasting your time insulting posters and repeating the same racist jargon everyday.
At least enjoy the cheap beer you’re drinking with a girl instead of arguing with a bunch of guys and threatening to beat ppl over the internet.
Thats what cowards and teenagers do.
Really? You support a moron ? You support 3-13? Just my point.Just dont argue with me about playoffs then get mad when i remind you of it everytime you say something about my discontent for the bottom lipped retard.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Hey Robert,seeing how your a MILLIONAIRE,you would have no problem putting up some cheese on that big mouth of yours huh? This could be my opportunity to make some easy money and bust a mig mouths a$$ at the same time.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
SUNNYVALE.Should have never told me that.You sir have just provided me with jokes for the entire weekend.
************
yeah, i live in sunnyvale now. u know. where the millionaires live. where the cost of living is the highest in the country. po boy don’t know nuttin’ bout dat do ya?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Wow!
Good for you. I’m impressed.
LOL
You people are crazy. Crazy!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
I support The Oakland Raiders.
There were plenty of years that Al Davis (RIP) could have been called a moron for some of the coaching hires and personnel moves but were you around to express your feelings about that?…Nope.
Give it up already, you’re a grade A moron.
And we aren’t 3-13 you azzhole, the season isn’t over.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Thats what cowards and teenagers do.
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Hello. Lol.
NO,cowards run to cork everytime they cant handle the heat.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
You’re the verbal punching bag and when we lose, it’s fun to take out my frustrations on you. I hope you never get banned again.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
One last post for you Raidermavirick
Mental miscues, which are verifiable by the gametape, is what did us in, EVERY SINGLE TIME. Branch takes bad angles, he’s done it every year of his career, no regression there. And angles are not coached, they are instinct. Rolando has been a habitual “gap misser” in 3 different schemes now. It’s pretty hard to blame Tarver for that. When your MLB is your worst player on D, how do you expect to keep big plays from occurring? What is a coach supposed to do about a player like Rolando? We dont have the personell to run a 3-4 and after this week, Im not sure if it would have mattered. The guy has never done a SINGLE THING to show us anything. Seriously, can you think of one signature game changing play he’s ever made? He had his chance last year against Matt Stafford and he whiffed on a white QB of all people. That isnt coaching or lacktherof, that is just a guy who cant play football at this level.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
453.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
I support The Oakland Raiders.
There were plenty of years that Al Davis (RIP) could have been called a moron for some of the coaching hires and personnel moves but were you around to express your feelings about that?…Nope.
Give it up already, you’re a grade A moron.
And we aren’t 3-13 you azzhole, the season isn’t over.
If you dont relize the season is over you truely are an imbecile.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I watched DA’s presser from earlier today and he seemed to be genuinely affected or concerned when the reporter mentioned how this is the first time in 2 yr’s that the game would be blacked out locally in the bay area.
DA: “Yeah..that is unfortunate. It’s our job to get a win and bring ‘em back”.
You could just tell from the way he reacted it bugged him.
I like that.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
455.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
You’re the verbal punching bag and when we lose, it’s fun to take out my frustrations on you. I hope you never get banned again.
Oh,you know I will.But like Arnold say’s??
November 30th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Actually, we still have more games to play. Damn, you’re the dumbest Business, Industrial, Wal-Mart, McDonalds civil cashier engineer i’ve ever met.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I watched DA’s presser from earlier today and he seemed to be genuinely affected or concerned when the reporter mentioned how this is the first time in 2 yr’s that the game would be blacked out locally in the bay area.
DA: “Yeah..that is unfortunate. It’s our job to get a win and bring ‘em back”.
You could just tell from the way he reacted it bugged him.
I like that.\
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He’s clearly upset.
And its dead clear that this org is all on the same page in the front office. From Mark to DA to Knapp.
It’s never too late to admit you were wrong and get back on the train and support this staff. Admitting fault is the easiest thing to do and it garners so much more respect than having to change your screen name or get reminded of it every time you post.
Eventually this org will have us pointed in the right direction. You can tell they are hell bent on it.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Back to the subject.Reggie the retard convinced me today.Just bllshtin!!
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
460.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Actually, we still have more games to play. Damn, you’re the dumbest Business, Industrial, Wal-Mart, McDonalds civil cashier engineer i’ve ever met.
================================================ Actually we never met.If we did, I would have blasted your teeth down your throat son.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Actually, we still have more games to play. Damn, you’re the dumbest Business, Industrial, Wal-Mart, McDonalds civil cashier engineer i’ve ever met.
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LOL!
That sums it up nicely.
Reggiehater has lower lip envy.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I’m not too far from you. Let me know whenever you’re in town. This is isn’t Sunnyvale Indiana.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
@Riff,
At seasons end I’ll be curious to see how much of the current staff has Reggie’s support.
I think some assistants might be shown the door.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Gangsta Pudding is so angry. I think he is a dumpster baby.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
It’s never too late to admit you were wrong and get back on the train and support this staff. ======================================================= 3-8. Na. Ide rather support a wild hair in my a$$.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
A lot of people are heavily invested in pinning the recent blowouts on the players instead of the coaches, and I guess I can’t blame them. If its the coaches, were screwed for at least one more year if not two.
But I still can’t name more than one or two players that haven’t regressed since last year… and one of them is CP… who couldn’t help but play better simply because he didn’t miss an entire training camp.
The job of the coaches is to get the most out of the players… no matter how horrible they are. I don’t see it… and I for sure don’t see it in the second half (if the players get WORSE as the game is played, isn’t that coaching?)
I dunno… I am willing to wait another year to see this staff coach with all the players they picked themselves, but color me skeptical thus far…
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
465.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I’m not too far from you. Let me know whenever you’re in town. This is isn’t Sunnyvale Indiana.
Sunnyvale is in Cal.BUY a fkn globe jacka$$.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Interesting…. Reggie said definitively that Huff will go back to Safety next year as far as the long term plans are concerned.
I wonder how he plans to get a #1 and #2 CB. Or maybe he thinks that by simply improving our LB play, the CB’s job wont be so hard.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Gangsta Pudding is so angry. I think he is a dumpster baby.
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What up O?
Is a dumpster baby like a cabbage patch doll?
I hope not.
My daughter was into the cabbage patch doll back in the day.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
34yrs old
27.7ppg 50% fg 42% 3pt
Greatness!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
467.Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Gangsta Pudding is so angry. I think he is a dumpster baby.
I bet you said that with a middle east accent.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Interesting…. Reggie said definitively that Huff will go back to Safety next year as far as the long term plans are concerned.
I wonder how he plans to get a #1 and #2 CB. Or maybe he thinks that by simply improving our LB play, the CB’s job wont be so hard.
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A Pass rush would help the back end quite a bit.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Like I said, let me know when you’re in town.
Sunnyvale or Indiana*
Pardon me, spelling bee champ. LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
@Riff,
At seasons end I’ll be curious to see how much of the current staff has Reggie’s support.
I think some assistants might be shown the door.
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Our special teams guy might get axed.
But its hard to blame the guy when our kick off returner trips on a blade of grass. And the blocked punt was 100% Meyers’ fault.
If you go re-read the presser, Reggie clearly has been watching the tape and isnt mincing words about blaming the players. As he says, he’s tired of the “my bad” attitude that is rampant on this team.
Without leaders on this team to enforce a strict code of discipline on the field, the coaches and GMs hands are tied. Reggie said as much. He says this team has very little leadership, if any.
Im not so sure if Reggie is going to come down on the assistants. The game tape doesnt put the fault on them. And Reggie isnt your average GM, he knows the X’s and O’s of the game and he’s on the practice field. He knows if the players are being coached and if they just have brain farts come gameday, which seems to be what he and DA are saying is happening.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
34yrs old
27.7ppg 50% fg 42% 3pt
Greatness!
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I miss something?
Context?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Len,
Enjoy.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCsQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkRj-S8Aklcw&ei=M5G5UPqNHIjg2gWnqoGQBg&usg=AFQjCNGd89nlgf-vojd0WE5Am_P4SJL2FA
November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
472.RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Gangsta Pudding is so angry. I think he is a dumpster baby.
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What up O?
Is a dumpster baby like a cabbage patch doll?
I hope not.
My daughter was into the cabbage patch doll back in the day.
Now she’s into crack and street corners.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Raider Len,
Kobe Bryant stats. Sorry, had to plug that in. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Interesting…. Reggie said definitively that Huff will go back to Safety next year as far as the long term plans are concerned.
I wonder how he plans to get a #1 and #2 CB. Or maybe he thinks that by simply improving our LB play, the CB’s job wont be so hard.
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A Pass rush would help the back end quite a bit.
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We all agree on that.
We need a DE in the worst way. And a DE can also be the leader of a defense. We could kill to birds with one stone if we can somehow land a true leading and gamechanging DE this offseason.
It’s a VERY tall order. But we need a Michael Strahan or Howie Long type in the worst way.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Interesting…. Reggie said definitively that Huff will go back to Safety next year as far as the long term plans are concerned.
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This makes me wonder about his worthiness as a GM.
WTF? Huff was never anything but a mediocre FS… he looks like a decent/good/sometimes great lockdown corner. Plus safeties are easier to find than lockdown corners… I don’t understand anyone that could say something so completely moronic and also pretend he is going to lead us to a SB. Huff stands around watching the cheerleaders at FS. He’s a very active CB.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Raider Riff Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
@Riff,
At seasons end I’ll be curious to see how much of the current staff has Reggie’s support.
I think some assistants might be shown the door.
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Our special teams guy might get axed.
But its hard to blame the guy when our kick off returner trips on a blade of grass. And the blocked punt was 100% Meyers’ fault.
If you go re-read the presser, Reggie clearly has been watching the tape and isnt mincing words about blaming the players. As he says, he’s tired of the “my bad” attitude that is rampant on this team.
Without leaders on this team to enforce a strict code of discipline on the field, the coaches and GMs hands are tied. Reggie said as much. He says this team has very little leadership, if any.
Im not so sure if Reggie is going to come down on the assistants. The game tape doesnt put the fault on them. And Reggie isnt your average GM, he knows the X’s and O’s of the game and he’s on the practice field. He knows if the players are being coached and if they just have brain farts come gameday, which seems to be what he and DA are saying is happening.
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Don’t disagree with all of the observations, BUT Reggie said Everyone will be evaluated.
I’m down with Winning. I’m trusting that Reggie can make it happen.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Raider Len,
Kobe Bryant stats. Sorry, had to plug that in. lol
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Thank you sir.
How many years He got left?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
I miss something?
YUP,first grade Im guessing.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
I miss something?
YUP,first grade Im guessing.
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LOL!
Look at Reggiehater giving Len the business. LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Miami,
Masa al khair ya basha.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
At this rate?
He should have 3, maybe 4 more years in him. Can’t believe how much his percentages have improved, especially after all the injuries and issues he had with his knee.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Khalas habibi, I don’t know that much! LOL
Hope you are well brother!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
At this rate?
He should have 3, maybe 4 more years in him. Can’t believe how much his percentages have improved, especially after all the injuries and issues he had with his knee.
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Well then as a Warrior Fan, I hope that the rest of the Lakers implode around Him. Ha!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
461,
Riff,
It gets confusing who’s on DA’s and Reggies side, or who’s on Reggie’s side and not on DA’s, or who’s part of the Hue contingent etc. etc.
For the record i’m not on the anti DA side…i’m undecided. I can’t get over seeing the results on the field and not holding him responsible…TO A DEGREE.
On the other hand, i do realize he has been dealt a team devoid of a lot of talent.
I still think he should be getting better results than the butt whippings we’ve been getting, which is of concern to even Mark and Reggie.
That being said, i do see some good things with him and agree he can’t be fairly judged with the kind of talent we have.
I like it when I see signs that he cares about the aforementioned butt whippings. I like that it bothers him.
I’m willing to give him a chance as far as i’m concerned, and i am one of those that will fully own up and admit if i’m wrong about some of the things that concern me about him.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
LOL Miami. You know more than my half-breed cousin.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
haha Len,
I haven’t watched the Warriors play yet but I like what i’ve seen from Harrison Barnes.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
461,
Riff,
It gets confusing who’s on DA’s and Reggies side, or who’s on Reggie’s side and not on DA’s, or who’s part of the Hue contingent etc. etc.
For the record i’m not on the anti DA side…i’m undecided. I can’t get over seeing the results on the field and not holding him responsible…TO A DEGREE.
On the other hand, i do realize he has been dealt a team devoid of a lot of talent.
I still think he should be getting better results than the butt whippings we’ve been getting, which is of concern to even Mark and Reggie.
That being said, i do see some good things with him and agree he can’t be fairly judged with the kind of talent we have.
I like it when I see signs that he cares about the aforementioned butt whippings. I like that it bothers him.
I’m willing to give him a chance as far as i’m concerned, and i am one of those that will fully own up and admit if i’m wrong about some of the things that concern me about him.
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It’s confusing only because there has been so much turmoil after Gruden and B Allen’s departure.
Many are looking to assign blame. I get that.
We have a new owner, GM, Head Coach and Coaching staff, as well as a revamped scouting department.
It will take more than a moment to digest all of this change.
Instead of pointing the finger of blame, I believe it would be prudent to observe and give it some time.
It’s not fun watching our asses being handed to us on Sunday, but we’ve been crappy for a decade.
I’m able to persevere for a few more if it leads to sustained success.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
LOL Miami. You know more than my half-breed cousin.
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O, you related to Kapernick?…lol
November 30th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
haha Len,
I haven’t watched the Warriors play yet but I like what i’ve seen from Harrison Barnes.
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Warriors new ownership is hell bent on building a winner.
They’re putting there money where their mouth is.
It will take a few, but they will be heard from.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
LOL Miami. You know more than my half-breed cousin.
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O, you related to Kapernick?…lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
Same nose.
Still LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
It’s not fun watching our asses being handed to us on Sunday, but we’ve been crappy for a decade.
I’m able to persevere for a few more if it leads to sustained success.
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Thats fine. I am with you. But its pretty hard for me to force down the Koolade after watching this team regress from last year, especially after we UPGRADED the QB!
Most teams that are the laughing stock of football have the worst QB’s in football. We have one of the better.
Hard to think its not coaching.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
And Reggie isnt your average GM, he knows the X’s and O’s of the game
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Explain why he would move Huff back to FS then.
Be precise.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
because Huff is a safety and not a cornerback. He wants a true corner back to play that spot.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
The PM crowd……….
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Gdog Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
It’s not fun watching our asses being handed to us on Sunday, but we’ve been crappy for a decade.
I’m able to persevere for a few more if it leads to sustained success.
>>>>
Thats fine. I am with you. But its pretty hard for me to force down the Koolade after watching this team regress from last year, especially after we UPGRADED the QB!
Most teams that are the laughing stock of football have the worst QB’s in football. We have one of the better.
Hard to think its not coaching.
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The notion that we are the laughingstock of the NFL is officially over in my mind.
It died with AL.
It was fashionable for the media lemmings to pile on AL late in His life. Fuuuck them.
It’s talent 1st, then coaching.
Every “out of whack” contract Reggie got rid of is out of the league, or playing for less than what the Raiders would have paid the same player.
Those that were free agents and signed elsewhere are overpaid backups.
It’s going to take more than a moment to get a full draft and real money under the cap.
Those are the facts.
8-8 is for chumps.
This new Group is after 12-4 annually and SB’S
November 30th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
The PM crowd……….
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What up JFB?
I’m providing my Beer Friday insight.
Should I start a blog? LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Warriors won last night with Barnes scoring 2 points.
They have a team, FINALLY, with defined roles.
None of this small ball one quarter, try to play big the next, you start this game, these two start the next.
We get our bench set, our starters set, people play their natural position, things are great.
And they let their COACH flop miserably his rookie year and didn’t panic!!!!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I’m providing my Beer Friday insight.
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I saw your Bochy lid comment earlier, scrolling through the bizarro world.
That’s a CHAMPIONSHIP sized melon!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I hear where you’re coming from Len.
Riff mentioned that 3rd and 9 in the 4th at Cincy right after we got jipped on that bad call and he’s right about our guys being there and simply not making a play on it, and i have to agree there are many occasions when that’s the case.
DHB dropping that 3rd down, Meyers doinking a pass in the endzone…others doing the same…
Definitely many cases where guys simply have just screwed up and has nothing to do with coaching.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
My stance on our Raiders is…
In distancing on how things were ran before and the image this team had, we moved on and continue to do so with everything Al built. Whether or not it was the right thing to do, is questionable because our offense was legit.
Reggie hired DA and I haven’t given up on our head coach but i’m not yet sold on our assistants and do not understand the Knapp hire. This is where I think Reggie made his first mistake but there is no going back now. He was better off recommending any hire, other than Knapp but he trusted DA to hire his own coaches. Again, different then how it was done before.
With the draft picks and FA signings….He really didnt have much to work with but Burris looks promising…Bergstrom, who knows but it’s only his first year. Criner looks like he flashes some promise.
Seriously, who drafts a bunch of first year starters? LOL Wheeler is a keeper and Streeter has showed some upside.
Penalties are down…loser ish for me to bring up? Ok but that has been as much of a cancer as anything else.
2013 will give me more to be able to judge than this year but i’m not going to come on here everyday and bash the organization like some of these other schmucks.
Too many extremist Raider fans and very stock market in the way they cheer for this team.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Warriors won last night with Barnes scoring 2 points.
They have a team, FINALLY, with defined roles.
None of this small ball one quarter, try to play big the next, you start this game, these two start the next.
We get our bench set, our starters set, people play their natural position, things are great.
And they let their COACH flop miserably his rookie year and didn’t panic!!!!!!!
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Shiiit! A Rotation is overrated! LOL
Keep the players guessing what the roles will be.
It keeps them on edge.
Frustration sharpens Frustration, right?
November 30th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I’m providing my Beer Friday insight.
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I saw your Bochy lid comment earlier, scrolling through the bizarro world.
That’s a CHAMPIONSHIP sized melon!!!!
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LOL!
Indeed.
Great manager.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Wheeler will be even better once he starts playing in a good defense. Once we start getting new guys and other Fa’s .
Bottom line. This team is being rebuilt. Its gonna be rebuilt. and its about DAMN time
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Frustration sharpens Frustration, right?
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The joys of marriage
November 30th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
511
That’s absolutely correct!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
People were arguing with me about Reggie being involved in hiring DA’s staff.
You Monkeys….
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
That 3rd and 9 pass from Dalton to Green was sick.
That’s what elite talent looks like.
We franchise Branch, pay him major paper, and he looks like a high school kid trying to defend AJ Green.
Green didn’t even really go up and get it. He tracked it, ran to the perfect point of it’s route and like a young Willie Mays just made an effortless basket catch with two pinheads haning on to him.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Wheeler will be even better once he starts playing in a good defense. Once we start getting new guys and other Fa’s .
Bottom line. This team is being rebuilt. Its gonna be rebuilt. and its about DAMN time
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Imagine what a MLB that just does his job can do for the overall effectiveness of a D.
I’m not scape goating Rolando, He has been a part of the overall Defensive issues, but not the only reason.
Wheeler is a keeper.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Frustration sharpens Frustration, right?
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The joys of marriage
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Dude,
You are sometimes too smart. LOL
November 30th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
I want to give Al the benefit of the doubt in some sense on these draft picks.
I mean, the year we drafted Russell, we needed a QB, it was just a bad year for QB’s. No Luck, RGIII, Stafford.
The year we draft DHB, we needed a WR, just a bad year for WR’s. No AJ Green, Megatron, Justin Blackmon avail.
The year for McNinny, we needed a RB, just a bad year for RB’s. No Trent Richardson or AP.
It was all just 10 years of horrible luck, lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Frustration sharpens Frustration, right?
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The joys of marriage
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
joys of marriage?
Joys?!
You sir had too much to drink.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
People were arguing with me about Reggie being involved in hiring DA’s staff.
You Monkeys….
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Well color me a monkey then. I always believed Reggie was involved, how couldn’t he be.
But it was obvious today that Reggie is gonna make the final decision.
If not initially, He will moving forward.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Plenty of married guys on here?!?
Sharing the idea of wanting to get married always returns negative feedback. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Frustration sharpens Frustration, right?
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The joys of marriage
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
joys of marriage?
Joys?!
You sir had too much to drink.
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You Sir clearly missed the sarcasm of that post, unless of course you are reacting in a sarcastic manner.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Well color me a monkey then. I always believed Reggie was involved, how couldn’t he be.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I did too. The monkeys argued that he wasn’t involved.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Plenty of married guys on here?!?
Sharing the idea of wanting to get married always returns negative feedback. lol
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Been married 25 years.
Love my wife.
Big adjustment with respect to priorities.
I don’t mean in my case BIG things.
Just the little ones.
The little ones create the frustration.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
78,
All you need to know about marriage in my last hour.
I come home from a week in El Paso, a 5 hour commute home, to an empty house.
Where’s wifey? Pullling the lever.
What’s on the front step? A giant box.
Honey what’s this box? “Furniture”. Furniture? We don’t need furniture.
“It’s not for us, it’s for the dog.” The dog? “It’s her birthday next week”. Birthday? WTF???
Yup, my dog now has a 3 piece furniture set worth way way more than the entire furniture in my first post-college apartment.
Way more.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
People were arguing with me about Reggie being involved in hiring DAs staff.
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This is new information – Reggie indicated before that DA was fully responsible?
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
25 years…Congrats and many blessings. It’s rare to come across anyone who has been in a long marriage nowadays.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
reggie stil svcks he is clueless…
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
78,
All you need to know about marriage in my last hour.
I come home from a week in El Paso, a 5 hour commute home, to an empty house.
Where’s wifey? Pullling the lever.
What’s on the front step? A giant box.
Honey what’s this box? “Furniture”. Furniture? We don’t need furniture.
“It’s not for us, it’s for the dog.” The dog? “It’s her birthday next week”. Birthday? WTF???
Yup, my dog now has a 3 piece furniture set worth way way more than the entire furniture in my first post-college apartment.
Way more.
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Every Guy that is getting ready to propose needs to read THIS.
LOL. True. The F..ing DOG had a F…ing Birthday.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
25 years…Congrats and many blessings. It’s rare to come across anyone who has been in a long marriage nowadays.
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Thanks 78.
We’ve become a nicely fitted pair of shoes, but at times one or the other will step on a tack. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
JFB
lmfao
That is hilarious!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
People were arguing with me about Reggie being involved in hiring DAs staff.
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This is new information – Reggie indicated before that DA was fully responsible?
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My reading is that DA had to Vet his Guys through Reggie.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
And you can’t argue it.
Yup, honey, the miniature leopard print chase will look great in the study.
What you have to give up to watch endless hours of sports on the big TV.
I used to not have to buy hundreds of dollars in leopard print chase’s for dogs to watch sports, but such is life these days.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I guess if I were an Industrial Engineer major from Stetson U I could have just built one.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
And you can’t argue it.
Yup, honey, the miniature leopard print chase will look great in the study.
What you have to give up to watch endless hours of sports on the big TV.
I used to not have to buy hundreds of dollars in leopard print chase’s for dogs to watch sports, but such is life these days.
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JFB,
You COULD argue it, but please tell them (the unmarried guys) what the consequences are. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
About the assistant coaches:
I thought Reggie was letting DA hire his coaches? I could have swore I read that when McKenzie arrived. If I’m wrong, my apologies.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I guess if I were an Industrial Engineer major from Stetson U I could have just built one.
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Glad I wasn’t taking a drink when I read this.
Hahahaha!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
About the assistant coaches:
I thought Reggie was letting DA hire his coaches? I could have swore I read that when McKenzie arrived. If I’m wrong, my apologies.
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He absolutely said that, but I think now, that He vetted them, and if He didn’t, He intends to moving forward.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I’ve learned from watching my brother and his wife get into it, over the most meaningless arguments, that the wife is like the customer…
Always right. lol Even if she doesn’t have a receipt, shes still right.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Anyways, enough of all that.
I hope Goodie and Darren don’t get hurt again.
I would really like to see them 2 and Reece all get some rushes in a game, so we can put to bed this nonsense about our rushing attack.
Reece knows how to use it, Goodson is the big play guy who was effective in it, and Darren needs to figure it out.
Seemed like he got a tiny taste running on the hapless Chefs, but then hell frooze over and he get hurt again the next week.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Len,
Lol
I got it, but I don’t like using such words “joys” when talking about marriage including jokes.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Looking forward to seeing how our defense responds with Gaither in the mix. Would also be nice for Darren to come back and play well in case we decide to trade him.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I’ve learned from watching my brother and his wife get into it, over the most meaningless arguments, that the wife is like the customer…
Always right. lol Even if she doesn’t have a receipt, shes still right.
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You got it!
Now how you handle every one of those sticky situations.
You use the term “Yes Dear”
“Yes Dear” is usefull and effective in ALL situations so long as you get the inflection of your voice right.
It’s just as useful as the Term “dude” with all of it’s effective range based on inflection.
You’re welcome, lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Just reading the PFT report on the Pats.
Granted it was the imploding Jets, but the Pats were without their world class G (Mankins) and TE (Gronk) as well as their starting RT, and could have scored 70 poits if they really had to.
Depth and an elite QB, with a stable coaching staff.
All you need in the NFL. Other things don’t hurt, but you have those 3, you are in contention for the Super Bowl every year.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I’m taking notes! haha
Thanks!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
After being married for 7 years, I’m thinking about being celibate, living in the mountains, hunting goats, and smoking trees.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Tom Brady could play with the Boston College O-line and probably still win the AFC East.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Looking forward to seeing how our defense responds with Gaither in the mix. Would also be nice for Darren to come back and play well in case we decide to trade him.
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All of the above. Gaither in particular just because He’s a MLB that’s been around for a while.
Looking to see how instinctive He is and what energy and leadership he can offer.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Len,
Lol
I got it, but I don’t like using such words “joys” when talking about marriage including jokes.
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O, I know you get it.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
O,
Let me know, I’m in.
Not sure how many goats are in the Laguna mountains but we can figure it out.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Just reading the PFT report on the Pats.
Granted it was the imploding Jets, but the Pats were without their world class G (Mankins) and TE (Gronk) as well as their starting RT, and could have scored 70 poits if they really had to.
Depth and an elite QB, with a stable coaching staff.
All you need in the NFL. Other things don’t hurt, but you have those 3, you are in contention for the Super Bowl every year.
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Saying it’s “all” you need sells the process of actually acquiring those things a bit short, but I can’t disagree that the formulas has worked.
Reggie can provide depth via FA and draft.
Reggie can provide a stable coaching staff.
Can Reggie provide a Franchise QB?
Maybe it’s Pryor. That would be sweet and easy.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
# Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
After being married for 7 years, I’m thinking about being celibate, living in the mountains, hunting goats, and smoking trees.
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lol
I guess the single life can do for awhile longer. Let it all out before I settle down.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Tom Brady could play with the Boston College O-line and probably still win the AFC East.
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Guess you didnt hear Reggie “I want to win withe big boys up front”
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Len,
Deer and turkey are ok.
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Maybe it’s Pryor. That would be sweet and easy.
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Even if he isn’t or isn’t even close, let’s just let that though ride for awhile to give us some semblance of hope.
Raider football!!!!!
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Tom Brady could play with the Boston College O-line and probably still win the AFC East.
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Not a chance JFB.
AND YOU KNOW IT. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Raider O Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Len,
Deer and turkey are ok.
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I missed something, but ya, they are in my book.
Turkey #1
Goat #2
Deer #3
November 30th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Maybe it’s Pryor. That would be sweet and easy.
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Even if he isn’t or isn’t even close, let’s just let that though ride for awhile to give us some semblance of hope.
Raider football!!!!!
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You’re right.
That has been pretty much the definition of Raider football for fans over the last decade.
Hope and more Hope.
I’m still down.
“Someday”
November 30th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Just because Reggie comes from GB doesnt mean he wants to do all the same things GB did, Reggie gave his input dont know how much of it was used or disregarded but Reggie made sure to let everyone know this is his team and he will run it the way he see’s fit. At this point I cant wait for the offseason so I can see Reggie at work in his element trying to get this team better, will he pass out a few pink slips? or will he stand pat and just add talent to the team? which way will he go in the draft? it no doubt in my mind the offseason will be more interesting than this passing season.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I guess the single life can do for awhile longer. Let it all out before I settle down.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Enjoy it as much as you can, and the memories will help you tolerate some of the BS when you get married, and trust me, there is BS.
I wish someone told me that. I was a dumb and horny monkey.
Warning!! Danger!! Crush your spirit and your wallet!!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
You gentleman have a goodnight!
Thanks for the marriage advice. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
You gentleman have a goodnight!
Thanks for the marriage advice. lol
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78
The crib notes on that advice are …RUN..lol
Later
November 30th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Just because Reggie comes from GB doesnt mean he wants to do all the same things GB did, Reggie gave his input dont know how much of it was used or disregarded but Reggie made sure to let everyone know this is his team and he will run it the way he see’s fit. At this point I cant wait for the offseason so I can see Reggie at work in his element trying to get this team better, will he pass out a few pink slips? or will he stand pat and just add talent to the team? which way will he go in the draft? it no doubt in my mind the offseason will be more interesting than this passing season.
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100% regarding the offseason.
Reggie IS NOT happy and will role whatever heads need to be rolled and will work to build HIS vision of what an NFL Team should be.
Inside / Out.
Expect heavy doses of linemen.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Later Miami.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Reggiehater Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Thats what cowards and teenagers do.
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Hello. Lol.
NO,cowards run to cork everytime they cant handle the heat.
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yeah jokefoshow–ur really turning up the heat. we’re all so scared. that’s why we all make fun of u relentlessly.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Actually, we still have more games to play. Damn, you’re the dumbest Business, Industrial, Wal-Mart, McDonalds civil cashier engineer i’ve ever met.
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LOL!
That sums it up nicely.
Reggiehater has lower lip envy.
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LOL!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Gdog Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
And Reggie isnt your average GM, he knows the X’s and O’s of the game
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Explain why he would move Huff back to FS then.
Be precise.
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I dont know the answer to that. So I cant be precise or even speculate.
He obviously sees something that I dont when watching the tape. And I have to take his word for it, he knows a lot more than me.
But to most of us here that are on the same page, we like Huff as a solid #2 CB. But we arent NFL GMs. Reggie is.
I’d love to sit down and watch film with him and understand what he’s seeing with regards to Huff. Largely because with exception to that, everything else Reggie’s said and done Ive agreed with at the time. This is the first time Ive disagreed with him so I’d like to know what he knows.
It’s not like he’s immune to mistakes, Briesel is evidence of that. But his reasoning/logic on everything has been sound, even with the Briesel disaster. So I wish one of the reporters had asked him to go into more detail as to why he wants Huffy back to FS. I’ll accept his explanation, I just wish I knew what it was.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Reggie dropped the ra-ra bs today… dropped all the “this team can win”, “I believe in these guys”, etc… and just came out and said these guys suck. lol
He basically said, “hey, when I got here I thought guys like Seymour and McClain would step up and impose their will on the defense and become on the field leaders, but neither of them are capable.”
Said that Allen has made mistakes and sometimes the wrong plays have been called at the wrong times but MOST of it is simply the players not doing what they have been coached to do on a consistent basis.
Said the front office was a mess and the Raiders were way over the cap and had to dump talent and depth to get under the cap. Wasn’t able to sign high profile free agents because there was no money.
Said it would take time to DRAFT & SIGN their way out of this mess and get players in here who want to play.
THANK YOU REGGIE! The first step on the road to recovery is to ADMIT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. Stop living in denial. This team sucks and I’m tired of defending guys like DHB, McFadden, Palmer, McClain, Huff, and all the other subpar talent trying to be passed off as NFL players.
I for one am looking forward to the day when this team is stacked again like they were in 2000-2003. When they could get to the Super Bowl with Bill freakin Callahan as a coach.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Reggie likes Huffs potential in a Defense that has proper talent up front and at CB.
Reggie thinks Huff can make plays, with help.
That’s my unqualified opinion.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
actually i think reggie doesn’t think huff is that good. he said corners and free safety were a problem.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
remember preseason when huff was trying to convince corkran and jerry and everyone else that he was gonna have his best year cuz he was “finally in a real defense”? and those guys were hyping it too.
i told everyone here it was garbage. players make plays. losers make excuses.
huff is marginal. period.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
what i get from reggie today is we need this:
MLB
CB
FS
November 30th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Terrell Suggs called Super Bowl ring “Blood Diamonds” because that’s what they cost.
Think anyone on the Raiders feel that way? I don’t.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
actually i think reggie doesn’t think huff is that good. he said corners and free safety were a problem.
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That could be true as well.
I respect Huff for the work He’s done at CB in a tough spot, but He’s not imo, an impact player.
I’d look at His contract and do some cap math to determine if He were worth keeping.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
reggie us a con….
November 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
is
November 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
what i get from reggie today is we need this:
MLB
CB
FS
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For sure.
BUT…Reggie wants to knock people off the ball, and He said it starts up front.
We need more Cap money and picks to plug all the holes. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
and i do think at some point pryor will get a little playing time. not a whole game like missdick thinks. but a few series. something for reggie to look at.
and i’m starting to think palmer really could be dealt in the offseason to a team like arizona. alex smith will be available as well, so teams like the cards, the jets, the bills, the jags, and the chiefs will be looking at taking a qb in the draft or getting a vet.
i think the cards, jets, and bills would like a vet.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
reggie us a con….
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yeah. u have pretty much made ur opinion known. is that all u have to say?
November 30th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
reggie us a con….
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Reggie is trying to make lemonade out of lemons.
Al is Dead. So by extension so are you.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
and i do think at some point pryor will get a little playing time. not a whole game like missdick thinks. but a few series. something for reggie to look at.
and i’m starting to think palmer really could be dealt in the offseason to a team like arizona. alex smith will be available as well, so teams like the cards, the jets, the bills, the jags, and the chiefs will be looking at taking a qb in the draft or getting a vet.
i think the cards, jets, and bills would like a vet.
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No doubt Palmer can be Traded.
By no fault of His own.
I don’t expect that will happen however.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
i wonder if romo and/or rivers could be available too. not for us necessarily but on the market.
if it’s only palmer and smith, we could potentially get a #2 pick and maybe a #5 or something. not a great return for what we gave up, but we need picks.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
i wonder if romo and/or rivers could be available too. not for us necessarily but on the market.
if it’s only palmer and smith, we could potentially get a #2 pick and maybe a #5 or something. not a great return for what we gave up, but we need picks.
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Supply and demand for sure.
Agree that Reggie needs picks.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
i like palmer, as i’ve said many times in here. and while i am interested in seeing what pryor can do, and am excited to think he could be a good qb, i’m skeptical and i doubt very much he would be ready by next season.
but with the state of the team, i think it might be time for a fire sale. get rid of any contracts u can. keep all the promising young good players/contracts and get as many picks in the draft as possible. overhaul the roster.
with that being said, i think palmer is the leader of the offense and with a decent line, and a redzone target, could make the offense hum.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
i’m out people.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
I’ve said a couple of times recently that I’d stockpile cap money and picks.
I’d do it as shrewdly as possible obviously.
This Team needs so much.
December 1st, 2012 at 12:03 am
“Wiz is not a good C. He’s getting beat off the ball. Again, its a physicallity thing. And changing positions for these lineman is VERY difficult. So lets not act like we only lost Satelle. 3 of the 5 guys are different this year. Wiz may be the same player, but he’s in a new position.”
Spot on post. Recall that Wiz was tried at center last year and had trouble. People figured he be more suited to it this year. Nope. He’s a guard.
December 1st, 2012 at 12:54 am
early in camp last year, after letting satele (who sucked) go, wiz struggled badly against kelly and others when they lined up over him. so they quickly moved him to LG and got satele back. satele still struggled, but wiz, usually now able to pull, and go get LB’s, looked good.
moving him back just got the same results. unfortunately, DA and reggie apparently believe this year’s struggles have more to do with him missing time in the offseason and in camp. that might have something to do with it, but it seems, from seeing so many DT’s blow him backward on the snap, that he simply lacks strength and needs to use technique and quickness to succeed.
December 1st, 2012 at 12:55 am
Wiz getting beat is a mental thing he’s thinking toomuc as are the rest of these players. If you know anything about line play. Dlineman are running free based o missed assignments. Wiz is tryin to learn the technisue and as a result is late in his punch which results in his getting hit first and knocked back. That is what is happening to this line they’re late off the ball way too much.
December 1st, 2012 at 12:56 am
wiz, brisiel, and carlisle (who has always been pretty good but is losing it) lack what the scouts call “anchor”. on the snap, upon receiving a forward blast from a DT, they don’t stand strong. they get knocked backwards and they end up on skates.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:00 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 12:55 am
Wiz getting beat is a mental thing he’s thinking toomuc as are the rest of these players. If you know anything about line play. Dlineman are running free based o missed assignments. Wiz is tryin to learn the technisue and as a result is late in his punch which results in his getting hit first and knocked back. That is what is happening to this line they’re late off the ball way too much.
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yeah priest. getting blown backwards consistently is a mental thing. cmon man. technique has to with footwork and positioning, as well as hand placement. that’s why he’s better on the move. his technique is actually good. he just gets overpowered.
and ur telling me if we know anything about line play, that DL’s are off the leash, going wherever the missed assignments are? sounds like ur the one in need of a tutorial, pal. they gap assignments, slants, etc. the defensive line has a job to do.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:02 am
Anyone is you heard Carson Palmer today said the same thing it’s one thing after another the line is finally starting to play in unison. If you noticed agsint CinCinati the line palye was the best all year in the second half of that game.
As I said about Reggie earlier he is just tooo green he’s still learning on the job. He allowed a rookie coach to hire his own staff when he’s a rookie HC. That is just all-time dumbwhen he had a coach inplace who knew the ins and outs and knew what players needed to stay and what players needed to go. he already ahs lost as many games with 5 to play as that coach did all year. That coach knew Carson palmer better than this coach. Reggie jumped the gun and cost us a lot now lets see if he knows enough of what to do to fix it. Because it is broken and HE DID IT………..period
December 1st, 2012 at 1:05 am
for f#ck’s sake man. why can’t u get off the hue fixation?
he went 1-4 down the stretch. his last 5 games resembled this year’s team.
it made it easy to can him, so reggie could go get his own guy.
u may love hue, but he made his fair share of mistakes and was not some great thing.
move the f#ck on. even hue is over it.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:06 am
the line has played a little better ever since BARNES has come back. a pretty solid veteran guy who gets his job done. the tackles are fine. it’s the 3 guys inside.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:07 am
All you neophytes who expected this guy to do miracles in his ealry years now see what some of us were trying to tell you. Still Reggie is due to make several more mistakes before he really knows what the hell he is doing no one is going to help him unless he HIRES THEM to do so. The rest of teh league will just take advantage of him as much as possibe to save their won skin. he has to learn and learn fast or we will suffer for years.
If you think he’s going to rebiuld tghis team witout some serious hickups YOU ARE FOOLING YOURSELF!!
He’s too damn green……..period
December 1st, 2012 at 1:07 am
u like hue cuz he was black. u were excited about it. but he’s gone.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:08 am
neophytes? i know ur not talking to me.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:08 am
ur becoming every bit as bad as sullivan. he hated al davis. u hate reggie for firing ur dear hue.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:10 am
if the raiders lose out, which is entirely possible, they will be 3-13. now compare that to hue’s 1-4 finish. that’s about 3-12 over 15 games. throw in another loss, and bingo. 3-16.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:10 am
4-12 in our last 16 games. hue’s team was DA’s team.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:11 am
i’m not sold on reggie or DA, but it’s 2012. quit living in the past.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:12 am
You’re a freeakin MORON!!
December 1st, 2012 at 1:13 am
LOL! based on all of my spot on knowledge and insight?
December 1st, 2012 at 1:13 am
tell me priest. what exactly did i say that u think i’m a moron for? this should be fun.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:18 am
didn’t think so.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:20 am
wiz is getting blown off the ball cuz he’s thinking too much. priceless. u come up with some imaginative reasons for things.
sometimes u just need to look at the obvious and quit trying to be complicated.
he’s lacks anchor. he gets overpowered. if he was a sumo wrestler, he’d get knocked outta the ring. he’s a guard.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:24 am
here’s his pre-draft stuff:
OVERVIEW
Wisniewski comes from a football family and has the versatility to be a quality backup at the next level. He has great football intelligence, quickly recognizes stunts and blitzes and is rarely caught out of position. However, he lacks the lower body strength to generate a consistent push in the running game and will not thwart the bull rush in the NFL. He played guard early in his career and can line up at all three interior offensive line positions. Wisniewski has the smarts to make up for his lack of strength and will likely be a later round pick.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Wisniewski is tall with adequate speed. Knowledgeable lineman that makes quality pre-snap reads and is always in sound position. Effective zone blocker that consistently picks up the right assignment. Slides and mirrors well in pass protection and delivers a good initial punch. Has experience playing both guard and center.
WEAKNESSES Lacks the bulk and lower body strength to hold stout against bigger defensive tackles. Has poor footwork and struggles to sustain blocks. Takes poor angles moving to the second level and lacks the lateral agility to consistently make blocks in space. Does not always finish blocks and fails to show a mean streak.
hmmm. sounds pretty much EXACTLY like what i was saying. and pretty much the OPPOSITE of what u were saying.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:28 am
here’s more:
Analysis: Word out of Indianapolis is that Wisniewski did well in the team interviews. I don’t think anybody is surprised there. He’s a three-time academic All-American. He’s bright, and he has been groomed to play offensive line in the NFL his entire life. Scouts are really impressed with his knowledge of the game and his consistency on film.
Out of 22 offensive linemen invited to participate, Wisniewksi finished in the top ten in every category except for the 40 yard dash, which scouts will tell you means nothing for offensive linemen. His weigh in drew some ooh’s and aah’s as the knock on Wisniewski was his inability to muscle around bigger defensive linemen. To weigh in at 313 lbs. with an arm length of 33 inches definitely helped his stock, as did showing off his lower body explosiveness by finishing fifth in the vertical jump.
Overally, Wisniewski did a lot to improve his draft status and very little, if anything, to harm it. Most experts project him as a mid-round prospect, but the draft is loaded with offensive linemen this year so a lot of teams may hold off on taking offensive line prospects until the later rounds.
consensus:
very smart. not powerful. get it?
December 1st, 2012 at 1:33 am
His mobility and athleticism puts Wisniewski far above the other offensive linemen in this year’s NFL Draft pool.
his good track record for a healthy work ethic suggests he will learn and adapt to the pro game rather quickly
Wisniewski is not the most physical blocker and he could benefit from getting stronger, but his technique and form more than make up for his few shortcomings.
it goes on and on. u have an agenda and u fit all of ur analysis to further that agenda. u are against this staff. u say they aren’t “developing” their players.
but everything said about wiz before the draft were that his intelligence, agility, and technique were what set him apart. and his weakness was…..well his weakness.
according to u he lacks technique and is thinking too much. according to draft experts, those are his strengths.
game. set. match.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:34 am
go away until u have thought about it. i’ll repost all of this to shred u in the future if ur not good.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:40 am
u and missdick love to act the part of the scholarly football mind. except it’s all half informed bull. there’s an actual football wizard here and that’s me. learn or perish!
December 1st, 2012 at 2:01 am
Dr in the house!
I love seeing the scrubs here get thumped. Even better is u beat him down so bad with facts that he’s gone silent!
Overall, it’s been a very good time chatting this afternoon. One of the more extended periods of high IQ talk I’ve ever witnessed here.
Even the naysayers were trying to be open minded. And the trolls were run off by Teach & Dr Robert. Good times.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:10 am
one thing that i hadn’t really fully thought out was the point about last year’s team finishing 1-4. basically, i think the team that finished that way was really the barometer to how this team would perform.
i remember reggie saying in the preseason when he was asked if this could be a playoff team. he said then that depth was a problem and we couldn’t have any injuries.
well:
wiz (preseason/game 1)
barnes
dhb
ford (not to be forgotten due to his return skills)
dmc
goodson
seymour (huge actually)
bartell
spencer
that’s some significant injury issues to overcome for a team that couldn’t have any.
really not surprising now when u look at it.
perhaps i’m starting to empathize with DA.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:12 am
I think tommy Kelly will be next to go. Punk is sticking up for rolando from the sounds of it.
How can Kelly say that rolando isn’t a major problem. All it takes is two eyes to see that rolando doesn’t care. Have any of you ever taken a look at rolandos arms? Zero definition whatsoever. He’s a bum in the gym. He is lazy. He doesn’t care. We shouldn’t be surprised that he’s so slow, he’s carrying way to much body fat to be considered a nfl linebacker!
December 1st, 2012 at 2:12 am
the good news is that if we move wiz back to guard, and put bergstrom on the other side (he was supposedly best suited to be a zbs guard), along with veldheer and a better-than-commonly-thought barnes, we really should just need a center thru frre agency for the line to get back to being good.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:14 am
what did kelly say? i haven’t heard about it.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:15 am
613…… Spot on. Those aren’t excuses, that is reality. The reality of a tea,m that has no depth due to whiffing on nearly every draft pick since ‘04.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:16 am
Please, no more Barnes. No no no no.
I like everything else u suggested, but I will never sign off on Barnes at RT.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:20 am
my opinion on barnes is not so much that he’s great or anything. i know he’s had a lot of penalties that guys here have gone off on. i just think he’s workable. i’m perfectly fine if they use bergstrom there instead, especially if they still go with brisiel.
i will say that the line has looked better since his return.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:21 am
Here’s Kelly’s comments….. Make of it what you will but it sounds to me like the talk of a guy that knows he’s next. Despite Kelly’s solid play most of this season, he apparently isn’t a fan of all the discipline.
Why he’d side with Rolando is beyond me. It helps our team zero. Kelly should have his coaches/teammates back…. Not the malcontent.
Quote……
Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said McClain was very upset after being kicked out of practice on Wednesday. Kelly said he hopes McClain’s career is not hurt by a “small disagreement” with a coach.
“Me personally, if I was him, I’d come back and do what they ask me to do and whatever happens after that, just deal with it,” Kelly said. “But you never want to put yourself in a position where a team is going bad and they can just put all that on you. I just don’t want him to get in a situation where he’s the scapegoat. … He’s not what’s wrong with the team. It’s a collective effort. We all had our hands in it to this point so I just don’t want him to be put in that position and know that if you do these certain things, that’s how you’re going to be cast.”
End quote
December 1st, 2012 at 2:23 am
let’s just look at the guys who replaced the injury guys.
wiz (parsons)
barnes (willie smith)
dhb (streater)
ford (franzies)
dmc (reece)
goodson (reece)
seymour (bryant)
bartell (lee)
spencer (huff)
reece has been an improvement but everyone else is not really what u want playing a lot of downs right now.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:26 am
619……
No, I like what ur saying about Bergstrom being better suited at RG. If that is where he is best suited physically to be, play him there.
Needing just a C and RT becomes so much more realistic when we don’t need a RG also. Hopefully Tony can deliver.
Add a real WR and our O will be set after that.
The D needs a lot more. DE, cb 1 & 2, MLB, and a legitimate decent 4th LB would be nice.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:26 am
hmm. i’ve long supported kelly cuz he was productive. but he’s always been a touch lazy and supposedly a kinda good-natured guy. seems like he wants to soften it up a bit. he might be friendly with mcclain. worried about how it will look for him. but he does say mcclain should just do what he’s told. he’s aware of how it looks. he says they should all take blame, which is true. but some players don’t really see things like a coach. mcclain has been awful. kelly should really be mad at mcclain for hurting the team and making them all look worse.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:28 am
yeah the defense needs a ton. rotational guys behind the starters too. bilukidi might be a keeper. but more is needed. backup LB’s. backup DB’s. it’s a mess.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:31 am
Yes, that’s my point, Kelly should be mad. He shouldn’t be sympathetic.
According to Vic Tafur, it’s unlikely that Kelly is his buddy. Rolando isn’t really friends with any of his teammates. Which is why I think Kelly’s comments have less to do with supporting McClain and more to do with laying the groundwork for his own exit.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:31 am
it’s hard to win when u have poor talent. people need to be realistic. look at that list of replacements:
parsons
smith
streater (rookie with very few catches in college)
franzies
bryant
lee
are these good players? starter caliber?
December 1st, 2012 at 2:35 am
some pro athletes treat things very much like a job and about money than what we would like them to. we want them to care. but u hear so many guys talking about other players getting their money. they’re not as into the team or pride. it’s about getting paid. they don’t dislike their opponent. it’s just casual. kelly has been productive but he coulda been fantastic. i remember him saying in an interview that his wife told him he needed to make sure he earned the money from his big contract. so, she needed to remind him of that. i think he’s just too laid back.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:36 am
Lol, which ball is the one Palmer threw and which one is the one Pryor threw???? Do you know the answer?
http://prod.images.raiders.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/RAIDERS/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/clubimages/2012/11-November/temp1129-practice-28–nfl_mezz_1280_1024.jpg?width=960&height=720
December 1st, 2012 at 2:37 am
the culture needs change as much as the talent. it was pretty amazing that reggie pretty much said flat out that the team didn’t have leaders. that’s why i hope they get manti teo.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:37 am
I haven’t given up on Streater yet. But he’s isn’t off my sh!tlist yet either.
The SD fumble, the drops, and the other rookie mistakes all reek of more of the same, a guy who finds a way to lose. He better clean it up by next season.
He’s got potential. But so did Chaz and Louis.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:39 am
627…… That’s most pro athletes. It just comes with the territory. Kelly is far from unique in that regard.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:40 am
i am ok with streater for the future. i just don’t think he’s a guy who was anywhere near ready to play as much as he has this season. he needed to be the #5 or #6 guy. just learning. a project.
ford would have helped there too. he’s not been great either but at least he’s experienced. our lack of depth exposed us.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:41 am
629…. I loved that he said that, especially since its been a concern of mine for years with this org.
Lots of guys getting paid leader-type money. None are earning it.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:41 am
Kelly is a captain, he’s just trying to be the voice of reason (re: mcclain comments).
December 1st, 2012 at 2:41 am
GG Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 2:36 am
Lol, which ball is the one Palmer threw and which one is the one Pryor threw???? Do you know the answer?
http://prod.images.raiders.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/RAIDERS/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/clubimages/2012/11-November/temp1129-practice-28–nfl_mezz_1280_1024.jpg?width=960&height=720
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LOL! what a pic. i looked at pryor’s highlights from preseason and college the other day. he throws a lot of dirt balls. look at his hand in that pic. that’s a problem.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:43 am
GG Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 2:41 am
Kelly is a captain, he’s just trying to be the voice of reason (re: mcclain comments).
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yeah, i can see that too. i just think there needs to be more fire. kelly comes across as a guy who will say what’s on his mind, and i guess that’s what was on his mind. but this team is obviously a team that lacks fire.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:43 am
I think Pryor’s ball is the tight one. Palmer’s the wobble. It would seem more reasonable to assume it’s the other way around. But analyzing the pic, I think it’s the former.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:44 am
But fcked if i know either, it’s a doozie
December 1st, 2012 at 2:46 am
632….. That SD fumble and the drops were not experience related. Lets just hope those are honest mistakes and not patterns.
Losing Ford definitely hurt. He’s a gamer. He’s actually made plays that won us games. He shows up when it counts, or at the very least, more than most on our team.
Hopefully he comes back next year 100% and finally gets over the JC crap. Campbell ain’t coming back.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:46 am
it seems the wobbler looks closer to me. i had to really look. but look at the form for both. i mean it’s one pic, but one guy was the #1 overall and considered a premier qb, and the other guy was seen as a tremendous athlete with suspect mechanics. the pic would seem to bear that out.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:49 am
634…. DA isn’t looking for a voice of reason. That isn’t Kelly’s job as a leader. His job is to help empower the coach and keep the rest of the inmates in line.
Riding the fence does nothing but divide and show no uniformity.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:49 am
not to belabor it, but it looks like pryor is leaning forward and probably threw the ball a touch earlier than palmer, so it seems to me the “downward facing duck’ is pryor’s which if u look at his highlights is an ongoing thing with him.
but i’m rooting for the kid. i just think he could make an amazing wr.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:50 am
Raider Riff Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 2:49 am
634…. DA isn’t looking for a voice of reason. That isn’t Kelly’s job as a leader. His job is to help empower the coach and keep the rest of the inmates in line.
Riding the fence does nothing but divide and show no uniformity.
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i agree. that’s the thing about this team. they have no commitment. no fire. they’re just going thru the motions.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:52 am
If I’m In DAs shoes and I read Kelly’s comments, I know how I would react and I wouldn’t be happy.
No fence riding. Your either with me or against me. Kelly’s comments weren’t 100% “with DA” so by default they were against him. That’s the way I would react at least.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:52 am
the release on that pic of each guy says a lot. palmer’s looks like a fastball. pryor’s looks like a curve.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:53 am
i think half the roster will be replaced.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:53 am
Lol Dr_robert.
I am a big preconceived Pryor fan and so I see the wobbler as Palmer’s.
You’re an original non-Pryor fan and so you see the wobbler as Pryor’s.
That’s a great pic to test perception.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:56 am
646….. It already has been! Haha
A couple leaders on this team and that much turnover won’t be necessary. Sure, some guys are beyond help but most just need a real leader to follow. This coaching staff has nobody they can depend on in that capacity. Nobody.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:56 am
Here’s something to make you think…that was from Thursday practice, when Palmer was apparently nursing an injured finger/thumb on his throwing hand.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:57 am
LOL! like a rohrshach test!
but it’s a misconception regarding me and pryor. even though i rip missdick constantly. i actually like pryor. i hoped we would pick him. i love his upside. i’m just unsure if he can do it. he’s huge, strong, fast. works really hard. wants to be a great qb. i just see a lot flaws in his passing. but i would freaking love it if he worked out cuz he “could” be amazing.
December 1st, 2012 at 2:58 am
GG Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 2:56 am
Here’s something to make you think…that was from Thursday practice, when Palmer was apparently nursing an injured finger/thumb on his throwing hand.
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and he still threw a perfect pass! LOL! ok, for fairness, i’ll say it could be either one. how about that?
December 1st, 2012 at 3:00 am
650…. Your take on Pryor is the correct one.
Kid is still super raw, and potentially unsalvageable from a fundamentals standpoint, but his demeanor, work ethic, fire, leadership, and physical gifts are all plenty of reasons to be curious, hopeful, and supportive of the kid.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:01 am
I think Pryor should get the final 3 games of the season. Full first team reps. Honest.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:02 am
All I want to see out of those games is progression. If I can see growth in each game, I’m sold.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:03 am
#650…
Look, even the most ardent hard-boiled Pryor fan like me understands and acknowledges he has (or had) mechanics flaws, needed time to develop, muscle-memory, and more importantly get humbled by what’s happened to him and change his attitude towards life and football, truly knuckle down, accept his status as a non-star like Newton/RGIII, and really fight, not have things handed to him.
It’s just Pryor is an unknown commodity, a potential rising star, multi-dimensional QB prospect, trying to fight to prove to RN he can be a future franchise QB….can’t hate the man, can only wish for him, and be genuinely hopeful for it.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:03 am
i’m on record (ask missdick) as saying there’s no way he’s given complete games at the end of the season, seeing as how that would mean we’re done with palmer and there would be no turning back. but i do wish we could see it too. cuz it would give us answers. i suspect the answers would not be good, but we would know a lot more. and at least if he sucked, we could just accept it. maybe he even would be willing to work at wr.
i just get excited at the prospect of him catching balls. that big, strong, and fast? what corner could cover him? in the endzone? he could have 20+ td’s!
December 1st, 2012 at 3:06 am
GG Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 3:03 am
#650…
Look, even the most ardent hard-boiled Pryor fan like me understands and acknowledges he has (or had) mechanics flaws, needed time to develop, muscle-memory, and more importantly get humbled by what’s happened to him and change his attitude towards life and football, truly knuckle down, accept his status as a non-star like Newton/RGIII, and really fight, not have things handed to him.
It’s just Pryor is an unknown commodity, a potential rising star, multi-dimensional QB prospect, trying to fight to prove to RN he can be a future franchise QB….can’t hate the man, can only wish for him, and be genuinely hopeful for it.
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u mean even the most ardent SANE hard-boiled pryor fan don’t u?
(missdick)
December 1st, 2012 at 3:07 am
we’re just caught in a bit of a catch-22. it’s unheard of to move away from ur starting qb to give full-game looks at a backup, unless u have moved on from ur #1. so, we’re handcuffed.
stay with palmer, don’t see pryor.
go with pryor, he sucks, and we lost palmer.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:09 am
655….. No. The most aredent Pryor fans on this blog argued against his flaws plenty this offseason. Even claiming he’d end up the #2 qb by seasons start. Raider O comes to mind. He still reluctantly won’t admit he was wrong.
But your right about the rest of ur post.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:10 am
how do u tell palmer “we wanna look at pryor for full games. take a seat.” and then tell him “but ur still our guy.”
his response would be “if i’m ur guy, then why do u need to look at this kid now? that’s what next pre-season is for.”
he’s not stupid. he’d realize that if pryor looked good, he would be out. but he would always know ur confidence was not fully in him.
i just don’t see it.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:10 am
656….. It’s ok if he sucked. Just so long as he showed steady improvement. That’s all ur looking for at this stage….. Steady growth.
Which is what we saw in the preseason.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:12 am
There is a chance Palmer doesn’t return, gets traded. he’s getting on and Reggie loves collecting picks, and needs more to sure up the D. Palmer can net him a 1st or 2nd to a club like Jets, Cards, etc in desperate need of one.
Alternatively, Palmer has been a great mentor, and motivator, willing to educate Pryor, unlike stars like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre. I love Palmer for that. There’s also the idea we could maybe convert Palmer to an OC. As outlandish as that sounds, I think he’d make a good one. So he is a Raider for life now, sees out his days in late 2013 as Pryor’s vet back-up, further helping him along, and then say 2014/15 he is hired as an OC.
I think I’d rather the second path than just cashing him in for a 1st or 2nd. Id rather trade McFadden, Branch, Shaughnessy, Briesel, and whatever else we can muster.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:13 am
here’s what i see as the truth.
it’s on reggie.
he either is behind palmer going forward, and that would mean pryor has next preseason to show himself.
or he has decided to release or trade palmer in the offseason, and he needs to at least see if he has anything in pryor, even if he doubts it.
it’s one or the other.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:15 am
Prior is suited up for one reason and one reason only: He is the third-string quarterback and the starter has injured his thumb.
The end.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:16 am
and here’s the real dilemma. my hunch is that reggie would like to go young and move palmer’s contract. however, if u play pryor, that makes palmer a lame-duck, and lowers his value, cuz teams will know he is out. but then if pryor sucks, reggie has to pick a qb with his first pick.
but he simply doesn’t know if pryor is any good.
what to do, what to do.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:17 am
#660…
It does happen often in the NFL. When a team is gone, they put in the youngsters to see what they’ve got. Look at Titans last year with Hasselbeck and Locker. Locker was no certainty, Hasselbeck was still the starter, they wanted to have a look at him when the season went pear-shaped. They even benched and re-benched both of them thru this year.
That’s just one example off the top of my head. Sure there are more. Look, even Reggie backed up what we’ve been saying….”at some point I need to see him out there in actual games, sustained time, drives, quarters, to evaluate him, can’t do so until we get him out there.” Which is exactly what we have been saying is a done-thing in the NFL and the only way to properly evaluate Pryor is thru live games.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:17 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 3:15 am
Prior is suited up for one reason and one reason only: He is the third-string quarterback and the starter has injured his thumb.
The end.
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geez, u make it sound so simple.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:17 am
660…. Ur right, no coach would do it, but we should.
We’re out of the playoffs. It’s evaluation time anyways. We need to see Pryor in real games.
Palmer shouldn’t feel threatened by it. The season is over. Save his arm for next year.
And if by some ridiculous and unlikely chance Pryor shows enough to warrant it, there’s no question we move away from Palmer and his salary.
I’m a huge Palmer fan. But this staff has nothing to lose and everything to gain by getting TP some live fire drills. Palmer lacks leadership qualities I want in my QB that TP has. That is the major upside I see here. Other than that, Palmer is by far better in most other aspects of being a legitimate QB at this point in time.
But we need leaders… Bad. And the whole staff knows it.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:19 am
662…… Great post! I’d love that to play out!
December 1st, 2012 at 3:20 am
hey, maybe we’ll see him. i don’t think we’ll see him but it’s just an opinion. i’ll certainly be paying attention if he does get in. it’s all conjecture. reggie and DA will decide and it will all unfold over the next few weeks. something to keep tuning in for.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:22 am
And as Ive shown about how Palmer is a very centered guy, happy to mentor and speed along a young guy who can take his place, I am sure he would understand that if the coaches want to see Pryor to evaluate him he would be okay with that knowing his job is secure.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:22 am
666…. Exactly.
Palmer is a big boy. He can handle it.
We’re not asking for TP to start some games because we think he can outright replace Palmer next year, were saying it because we’ll know without a doubt if he’s worth the continued development.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:23 am
maybe he can come in for his patented “line up at wr, then motion over to qb, and quick snap it but do it too quick and get penalized” move. LOL. oh hue.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:23 am
670……. Exactly.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:24 am
GG Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 3:22 am
And as Ive shown about how Palmer is a very centered guy, happy to mentor and speed along a young guy who can take his place, I am sure he would understand that if the coaches want to see Pryor to evaluate him he would be okay with that knowing his job is secure.
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yeah but the not-so-secret truth would be that it his job wasn’t secure. he would know the deal. he would know that they’re at least considering dumping him.
but we’ll see.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:25 am
673….,. How quickly all the Hue loyalists forget that genius decision. Hue had plenty of bonehead moments that had this blog furious.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:26 am
675..,,, or considering theirvlongterm future with Pryor.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:26 am
hey, i’m at least open to the idea of trading palmer for picks. it just sucks that we don’t know anything about pryor and i do think palmer’s trade value would lessen if he was sitting at the end.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:26 am
#668 — agreed.
but #669 — yeah i think it would be a great Raider-like thing to do to make Palmer a Raider-lifer, keep him around and hire him as an OC in a few years. There’s that kind of stability of continuity we’ve been talking about — Pryor and Palmer working relationship together for the next 10 years. Pryor the padawan learning the ropes, tagging along like a love-sick puppy wherever Palmer goes, slowly becomes the #1 guy, and Palmer becomes his OC for the next 5+ years.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:28 am
i would say there’s a better chance of pryor getting a series or two under the guise of “looking at talent”. and then MAYBE the last game.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:29 am
And to think….. We dumped Kirk Morrison for this chubby armed bum named Rolando.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:30 am
personally, i always like morrison.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:31 am
680….. That is probably our best hope. Although they should give him two games. A home game might equal a sellout.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:31 am
If Palmer starts vs Browns, this game is going to resemble a pre-season game. Because they also want to get a look at leinart too. So we’ll probably see Palmer for 2 Qtrs. Leinart for the 3rd and a bit, then Pryor for like the last 10 minutes. Then the following week the same. Then at some point, like the very last game, might give Pryor the whole game.
That’s if he slowly picks it up. but if he hits the ground running vs Browns in his limited time, makes a bunch of great throws and audibles, a few good scrambles, etc. He might see starter action earlier.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:31 am
If they start him for the SD game, I know I’m going to go for sure.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:32 am
it’s funny how differently players can be seen by fans watching the same game.
according to priest, wiz is “thinking too much” and not getting a good early “punch”, and it’s not due to strength. of course, all the experts think wiz’s strengths are thinking and getting a good initial punch and his weakness is poor strength and getting overpowered.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:33 am
It’s funny how excited we’re getting at the prospect of TP playing….. Despite the fact that QB has been the least of our teams worries, Palmer is our best player, and he’s having a career year.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:34 am
if pryor flies in wearing a cape and bedazzles everyone with his otherwordly powers, MAYBE i’ll support him.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:35 am
686..,. Like u told him, some of us see what’s happening, and others just make chit up to suit their agenda.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:39 am
so, for me, it’s kinda like looking at the lakers’ troubles, and saying “u know what we need to do? get a look at darius miles. sit kobe for a while.”
but i understand. pryor excites. at least while he’s the unknown.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:40 am
Also worth noting that McKenzie said yesterday he wants to see Pryor in extended action to evaluate him, but that ultimately it’s up to Allen whether he sees any time or not, or how much time and in what capacity we see him on the field (running gimmick plays, at WR, or as a drop-back passer). So keep an eye on if Allen even gets Pryor out there, and if its very minimal time, Reggie wont be happy with Allen.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:40 am
Just out of curiosity, I sure would love to hear Rolandos side of the story.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:40 am
i’m out guys.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:44 am
Gotta love the chain of command thing…
Mark Davis post-saints interview — yes, reggie and i talk every day. i have my thoughts on the quarterback, but i support Palmer yes (translation: palmer is secure but FFS Reggie get Pryor out there already and allow him to develop in real live games, dont let him wallow).
Reggie McKenzie a week later — I want to see Pryor out there to evaluate him, but ultimately it’s up to the coach. (translation: FFS Dennis i’ve got Mark busting my balls, get Pryor out there already).
December 1st, 2012 at 3:44 am
Nite Dr_Robert.
And anyone else crashing
December 1st, 2012 at 3:45 am
691…. Ya, that’s an interesting dynamic. You have to factor in that Mark is curious also.
Sometimes I think DA is just challenging TP. Knowing that by building and cultivating that Gannon-like chip on TPs shoulder it will make the kid that much better.
If that is the case, letting TP out of his cage and off the leash is going to be fun to watch and going to take impeccable timing.
On the other hand, TP might not ever be the type of guy that a ultra conservative coach like DA will ever trust without a push ‘n nudge from the upper management.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:46 am
I’m about to crash. I should. But I can’t.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:48 am
#696 good observations.
The truth is probably a little bit of both! DA is a tediously conservative fcker unfortunately.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:48 am
And nite to you Raider Riff if you do crash
December 1st, 2012 at 3:50 am
Ya, but that wry smirk he’s got also tells of a coach that likes to challenge and see if guys can rise up.
TP is that type to respond well to doubters.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:53 am
Allen and TP might be a batter fit for each other than they ever could realize.
DA might see the kid as a burden at the moment and TP might resent being buried on the depth chart. But in the end, that tension can often be healthy.
All TP needs is an honest chance.
December 1st, 2012 at 3:54 am
#700 TP has genuinely morphed into the anti-thesis of Russell. A guy with incredible god-given talent, but matured now in the mind, becoming more cerebral a player, humbled, loving the work ethic lifestyle more each day, wanting to be great, taking nothing for granted, AND is learning patience. The “he says all the right things” dynamic has changed from last year to this if you’ve all noticed. Last year it was a bit put on. But this year you can tell he’s genuine this time, specific things he says now you can tell are coming from his heart.
December 1st, 2012 at 4:42 am
If Palmer isn’t our QB next year, we are going to spend the entire season in here debating whether we should have kept Palmer or not.
December 1st, 2012 at 4:50 am
I’m not with all this Reggie-bashing. If you want to argue that he should’ve, at least, extended an offer to Hue to stay on as OC then I’ll listen.
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Hue Jax didn’t only want to stay on board as HC, but he wanted a say in who the GM (his boss) should be
You think he’d accept a demotion to OC?
You know that by the Raiders firing him, they still had to pay him, Right?
Hue wasn’t going to swallow his pride. He was gonna take the money and leave with a smile on his face like Lane Kiffin and many others did
December 1st, 2012 at 4:53 am
Plenty of married guys on here?!?
Sharing the idea of wanting to get married always returns negative feedback. lol
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Miami,
I’m the minority here. I love my wife and being married
we don’t agree on everything all the time and we argue some, but at the end of the day she’s my woman and I wouldn’t want to live with anybody else
December 1st, 2012 at 4:58 am
Back-n-Black Says:
November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Reggie dropped the ra-ra bs today… dropped all the “this team can win”, “I believe in these guys”, etc… and just came out and said these guys suck. lol
He basically said, “hey, when I got here I thought guys like Seymour and McClain would step up and impose their will on the defense and become on the field leaders, but neither of them are capable.”
Said that Allen has made mistakes and sometimes the wrong plays have been called at the wrong times but MOST of it is simply the players not doing what they have been coached to do on a consistent basis.
Said the front office was a mess and the Raiders were way over the cap and had to dump talent and depth to get under the cap. Wasn’t able to sign high profile free agents because there was no money.
Said it would take time to DRAFT & SIGN their way out of this mess and get players in here who want to play.
THANK YOU REGGIE! The first step on the road to recovery is to ADMIT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. Stop living in denial. This team sucks and I’m tired of defending guys like DHB, McFadden, Palmer, McClain, Huff, and all the other subpar talent trying to be passed off as NFL players.
I for one am looking forward to the day when this team is stacked again like they were in 2000-2003. When they could get to the Super Bowl with Bill freakin Callahan as a coach.
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this blogger “gets it”. I agree with everything. thanks for sharing BNB!
December 1st, 2012 at 5:03 am
Riff,
thanks for posting those quotes by Tommy Kelly regarding the McClain situation. Speaks volumes imo
Kelly doesn’t think there should be consequences for subpar play. He’s not a fan of discipline. I remember him complaining about the money jar in the locker room where guys had to pay every time they were flagged a couple years ago. He speaks to the media a lot and he may be our best pass rushing interior lineman, but he gets abused versus the run year after year. Plus he’s way overpaid
December 1st, 2012 at 5:04 am
I look forward to the day when we can sit down to watch a Raider game and not expect them to lose.
December 1st, 2012 at 5:09 am
I’m looking forward to seeing the Raiders make Tackles again….
These guys should know how to tackle by now….make a Gawd Damn stop ..
December 1st, 2012 at 5:15 am
reading Reggie’s transcript again and I don’t think half of this roster will be Raiders heading into the first preseason game of 2013
he has a team full of loser players with bloated contracts and no accountability, desire or leadership
December 1st, 2012 at 5:19 am
Rockstar…. Agree… Gonna be a big turnover…. It’s a good thing …
They’ll be watching for the guys who haven’t packed it in these last 5 games… Guys that still have desire
December 1st, 2012 at 5:24 am
Reggie is no fan of Rolando. If Gaither flops in the middle the next 2 games and #55 makes a public apology it’ll be interesting to see what happens
If Gaither starts the rest of the season or maybe they slide Burris over to MLB then I think McRussell is toast
December 1st, 2012 at 5:28 am
I’d just as soon see the cut McClain now… But their may be contract issues I’m not aware of…
December 1st, 2012 at 5:32 am
“defense, I don’t want to give up big runs. That means our gap control has gotten to a minimum as far as making mistakes.” – Raiders GM
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DAV has Trent Richardson on his fantasy football team in Dell’s league and we’re facing off this week to see who makes the playoffs. I hope our defense responds to Reggie!!
I was thinking he’d get at least 20 fantasy points from T-Rich this week, which would be a season high
December 1st, 2012 at 5:33 am
Bnb’s post is a good one…. I’d only differ that I’ll still defend Palmer…. He may not be the answer but the effort and desire are there ….. The Raiders need to start thinking future QB now while they still have Palmer under contract….. They need than franchise Qb …find one….
Pryor?.. Don’t know … But it’d be nice if we found out he was the guy…. I haven’t seen enough yet ..
December 1st, 2012 at 5:38 am
Typo… ” they need that Franchise Qb”..
December 1st, 2012 at 5:44 am
686.dr_robert Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 3:32 am
it’s funny how differently players can be seen by fans watching the same game.
according to priest, wiz is “thinking too much” and not getting a good early “punch”, and it’s not due to strength. of course, all the experts think wiz’s strengths are thinking and getting a good initial punch and his weakness is poor strength and getting overpowered.
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Which is another reason I’m still half pissed that we didn’t take Maurkice Pouncey when we had the chance, and took McClain instead.
If Kirk Morrrison wasn’t hot garbage the choice might have been easier, I suppose.
December 1st, 2012 at 5:45 am
There’s nothing wrong with seeing the Reggie press conference as a glass half full…ie, exactly as what Back in Black translated it to mean. Nothing wrong with looking at it like a longer process and celebrating Reggie gutting the roster to fill it with players he wants.
The only concern is…Reggie’s track-record to date in hitting on draft picks and acquisitions that are not only talented but can elevate out of that passionless and “my bads” on-field display that we’ve been enduring for a decade.
He can gut the roster all he likes, replacing Huff, McFadden, DHB, Seymour, Kelly, etc, with players of other names, but that doesn’t mean they’ll become the players Reggie envisions them to become. If he guts too much, 2013 will be another bad season, trying to once again acclimate tons of rookies and practice-squad type of talent into consistent high-performers but finding it very tough, again going 3-13 or 5-11, and needing more years of drafting. Seeing as drafting is always a 50:50 or worse type of deal in finding studs.
We could end up with a hard-working but untalented roster. Like a boring Jaguars. Schweigerts and Fargas’ etc that have a low ceiling of ability. They work hard, fill the right gaps, take the right zones, but can’t physically out-muscle/out-elevate/out-speed their direct opponents.
I’ll admit Jeremy Stewart looks very servicable. He runs hard and low, busts tackles and fights for yards. And naturally I love the Streater and especially the Criner picks. Criner will be a beast next season. Our best and most relied on receiver, our own Dwayne Bowe, with Moore becoming more of a big-play splash receiver like Torrey Smith. I love the Marquette King to IR decision to transition from Lechler. Miles Burris plays hard but might not become a world-beater, but a good solid contributor or depth player.
It’s one thing wanting guys who are all churchy and work hard, but the NFL is also still Darwinistic in that raw height-weight-speed-strength of the opposition keeps increasing.
December 1st, 2012 at 5:49 am
Leinart will have a big game. He’s Knapp’s guy, fits well with the scheme and will make the most of his opportunity. No matter which backs play, it’s going to be screen-a-palooza!
December 1st, 2012 at 5:51 am
I think you’re short-selling Reggie a little bit, GG. Sure, he likes the hard-working character guys and that’s what he’s attempted to bring here during his (very short) tenure.
Be assured, however, that he wants impact players. Trouble is, there really weren’t any here when he arrived (I suppose you could count McFadden, but how much impact can a guy have when he only plays half the year?) and he had no money or draft picks to get any after he did.
You will see impact players on the Raiders. Be patient.
December 1st, 2012 at 5:59 am
Slo-Mo is history…Good riddance to bad rubbish.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:00 am
…and he won’t be alone…Load the bus up Reggie.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:11 am
This is how bad it is…. The Browns are a 1 point favorite in Oakland this weekend….. Ouch..
December 1st, 2012 at 6:33 am
Wow, and we think our team is desperate for defensive players. Just saw that the Cowboys plucked Sterling Moore off NE’s practice squad.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:38 am
Reggie for executive of the year.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:46 am
#720
Good contra-post there Edward Teach.
The impact player point is the best part of that post. The other thing about that tho…he mismanaged an impact player he had! He married himself to a preconceived preference for WCO/ZBS, married himself further to it by grabbing the Knapp-Pollack-Briesel Texans package. And he let half a season fritter away enforcing that system on a roster built for PBS.
So even if he does get impact players, he has to be more intuitive to that X&O aspect. I read him saying how scheme doesnt matter players have to push opponents off the ball etc etc. But clearly scheme does matter. You don’t use a Brady/Palmer as a short-horizontal thrower with a lot of moving launch-points with rollouts etc. You don’t have DHB running nothing but deep posts and go routes when he can’t catch or track balls over his shoulder well. You don’t use McFadden as a read and react ball carrier.
It’s important that the GM not meddle with the HC, but the GM runs the entire football operations and his vision and schematics are handprinted on there. He drafts and acquires talent specific to the schemes being used. If we’re running a 3-4, his scouting of defensive talent completely changes from scouting for a 4-3 defense. Same with man coverage vs zone coverage. Both require different talents and abilities. Affects the scouting process.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:46 am
Got a kick out of Dr. Robert vs. Reggiehater last night.
Like Mistic vs. McFadden20, only with death threats.
Funny how you can type the President’s name in here and have your comment “awaiting moderation”, but you can threaten to cut a guy’s head off and it sails right through.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:47 am
Last year I was pissed that Sterling Moore was starting for the Pats. But, the guy has been cut from two teams with horrible pass defenses. He can’t be that good.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
Reggiehater will be banned again. Of course he’ll come back with another name, though.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:53 am
Thanks, GG. Always a pleasure going back and forth with you.
I think McKenzie and the staff knew what they were doing with the ZBS (I know that is a hugely unpopular thing to say in here, but that’s how I feel). McFadden isn’t part of the long term plan. It would have been nice if he were able to thrive in the scheme (and he may surprise us the rest of they year; it seems as though things are getting blocked a little better), but you just can’t hitch your wagon (or your payroll) to a guy that misses as many games as he does and plays the position that has one of the shortest shelf-lives of any in the league. Better to run a scheme that an average back can excel in (and start it as soon as possible so the line gets proficient at it) and save that money for guys that can impact your team for a longer period of time. At least that’s what I think about it.
December 1st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
Last year I was pissed that Sterling Moore was starting for the Pats. But, the guy has been cut from two teams with horrible pass defenses. He can’t be that good.
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I think he had one great game for the Pats, but otherwise has proven why he’s practice squad material. But now he’ll get another shot on another bad defense. LOL
December 1st, 2012 at 7:12 am
#730
Pleasure is mine too
I agree with you about McFadden, not a long-termer, and his injury-proneness. Better to trade him to sure up the OL and Defense. I did like that Reggie is a believer that football is won-lost in the trenches. That’s what I fully believe so I dig that about him.
To go back to our original points…I do agree that Reggie needs time. Him far more than Allen. Requires about 3-5 years to see the effects of his scouting ability, give him a chance to create his own culture. So you’re right there. Just it’s also an unknown — whether Reggie is gifted in that department. Just because a GM wants to gut and rebuild doesn’t mean he can successfully. We’ll afford him that, but if he doesn’t turn over the coaching staff this off-season. Or, if he allows a whole season to slip away because he is too placid to make coaching changes mid-season, then that’s bad. He cannot do this in future. If you’re 1-4, and able to turn it around with some coaching changes, you can’t sit on your hands refusing to evaluate and decide until only after a season.
December 1st, 2012 at 7:24 am
This says it all fom Reggie:
“do you have a coach saying, `don’t do this.’ You don’t want that. You want the players to doggone take it upon themselves and run it. We’re not at that level.”
Expect a huge turnover this offseason…
December 1st, 2012 at 7:35 am
Brian Kelly coming up on college gameday
December 1st, 2012 at 7:38 am
Am I the only one that thought Notre Dame and Oregon shared a head coach?…just found out they were two different dudes. Damn.
December 1st, 2012 at 7:42 am
Chiefs ILB Jovan Belcher just shot and killed his girlfriend, then drove to Arrowhead and committed suicide.
December 1st, 2012 at 7:54 am
Our most talented player is inactive while we go 3-8.
Allen is clueless.
December 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am
Wow! And people the raider players are fked up!
December 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am
BREAKING NEWS
A Kansas City Chiefs player fatally shot himself at the team’s practice facility Saturday morning, according to NFL Network.
December 1st, 2012 at 7:59 am
Dakota Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am
Wow! And people think that raider players are fked up!
December 1st, 2012 at 7:59 am
Oh, just saw GG already posted. Wow. Crazy.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:00 am
GG
Allen will absolutely stay as HC for 4 years.
There could be some assistant changes but not for the reasons you think.
Other teams whether college or pro know the real deal in Oakland.
OUR TEAM LACKS TALENT TO COMPETE AT THE NFL LEVEL.
Our coaches will be given OFFERS TO LEAVE AND THEY MAY BE ACCEPTED.
You are correct about 3-5 years. It is a process and there is not a good team at any level that changes coaches and schemes as often as Oaklnad and wins. NOT ONE.LETS GET BETTER PLAYERS. Especially on the lines.
That is what Reggie will do. He can not concern himself with our past suffering. He can only worry about fixing the mess he was given.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:00 am
That is really f*cked up.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:02 am
Faux John Madden @FauxJohnMadden
Chiefs player rumored to be involved in murder/suicide is 25-year old LB Jovan Belcher.
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December 1st, 2012 at 8:02 am
Do the Chiefs get a roster spot exemption for that?
December 1st, 2012 at 8:04 am
jfb…stvpid question…
December 1st, 2012 at 8:04 am
Wikipedia already has his death date.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
Reggiehater will be banned again. Of course he’ll come back with another name, though.
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We need an upgraded BB system that can ban people by IP address. If nothing else, put Disqus or something in.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:06 am
Well, I know a MLB/ILB who may be looking for work soon.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:07 am
I wonder if the Chiefs will even play a game tomorrow. One report says he killed himself in front of Romeo and Pioli.
Legion Sports @MySportsLegion
Kansas City beat writer reports that Belcher killed himself in front of the head coach and general manager. Oh my goodness if true.
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December 1st, 2012 at 8:08 am
#742
I dont entirely agree that it’s lack of talent. There are many examples of rookie HCs, even regime changes, turning it around first year with not a drastic roster change.
Everyone uses Colts in 2012, but the one I think is best is the Buccaneers in 2012. Sure, they had a ton of cap-space and signed V.Jackson. But the point I want to focus on is Raheem Morris in 2011. He had the entire roster playing like bums. He lost the players too. The GM didn’t gut the roster. He fired every single coach. Hired a college coach (someone even less NFL experience than Allen) and he hired his own staff, like Allen did. But he got them IMMEDIATELY playing with fire and commitment. Right from week 1.
With the Raiders new HCs, whether under Al at the end, or now under a totally new GM, they’re still in training camp mode as far as week 12 into the season. Still trying to find themselves, get the players on the same page, build chemistry etc.
The 2012 Buccaneers, essentially a full returning roster from 2011. In 2011 they were absolutely disgraceful on-field. Schiano had them out of training camp mode week 1, all schemed up, all on the same page, all executing well.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:15 am
The 2012 Buccaneers, essentially a full returning roster from 2011.
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Except for two first round picks, a HOF TE they added, and the most expensive FA signing in the offseason at WR.
I would bet 75% of their total offense wasn’t on the team last year.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:16 am
Reports are just coming in regarding a tragedy involving the Kansas City Chiefs, but here’s what we know at this time. According to KCTV-5 News in Kansas City, an Chiefs player shot and killed his girlfriend at a house near 54th street and Chrysler Avenue on Saturday morning.
The player then drove to a practice facility near the team’s main campus and took his own life. The team’s Arrowhead practice facility was evacuated and is currently on police lockdown.
“We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning,” the team said in a statement this morning. “We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation.”
According to FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer, the name of the player will not be revealed until his family is informed. Glazer also reports that Chiefs players have been asked to assemble at the team’s main facility so that they can be informed of all the details.
The Chiefs are scheduled to play the Carolina Panthers at Arrowhead at 1:00 PM ET Sunday.
Stay tuned for updates on this developing story.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:16 am
ESPN grantland article has Raiders as -2.5 point favorites tomorrow.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:19 am
I couldnt care less about that POS Chief,..wish he would have taken out some of those Hunt family members before he did himself. Death to the Chiefs!!!!
December 1st, 2012 at 8:20 am
As long as he didnt kill Quinn or Cassell we ok,..need that win in a couple weeks.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:20 am
This dreary season just got good,..Iv hated the Chiefs all my damn life….what a beautiful day.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:21 am
dvmbfvcks in here…
December 1st, 2012 at 8:21 am
Ok lighten up,..heres a joke for ya,…Jovan had just heard he was traded to the Raiders.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:23 am
GG
The changes you are referring (Tampa Bay and Gruden come to mind in 2002)were not in the state of disarray that we are and have been for ten years.
Guys, Like Singletary in SF, Dungy in Tampa, Gruden in Oakland etc. did a lot of behind the scenes dirty work and while building both lines with high draft picks OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
Please look at the draft history of consistently good winning teams.They invest 1st and 2nd round picks on the line of scrimmage far more than Oakland has for the last ten years. OAKLAND GOT AWAY FROM WHAT MADE IT GREAT.
Draft lineman in the first round and draft running backs in the fifth round.
Oakland has changed coaches so often with the same results that the root cause is obvious.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:25 am
I know they added those parts. The point being that the majority who returned from 2011 to 2012, went from looking like total talentless bums to passionate intelligent consistent players. All due to coaching (another point), but also all on the same page and performing from week 1 (another point).
Reggie has altered 50% of the roster this year. He has made changes and their returning players have regressed under the coach. In 2011 they weren’t all bad. In 2012 many who were good are now bad. That’s coaching.
Also…Reggie has to be careful gutting the roster too much. If you keep taking out slabs of players and replacing them with slabs of new players, and do it too often, you will end up always being in training camp mode as you struggle to build chemistry and team unity. If he guts it even more this off-season, 2013 will be another 3-5 Win season due to that. He cant keep gutting the roster every year. He has to eventually bite the bullet that it’s coaching.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:26 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:21 am
Ok lighten up,..heres a joke for ya,…Jovan had just heard he was traded to the Raiders.
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I’m honestly not sure whether I should be offended or not.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:28 am
I wonder what the F his problem was. Should have just shot himself but the piece of crap had to take someone else with him.
I bet Pioli and Romeo thought he was gonna shoot them. They probably were relieved when he put the barrel to his demon possessed mug and pulled the trigger
December 1st, 2012 at 8:28 am
Hey props to that Chief,..he didnt piss and moan about being a Chief,..that record,..he said F this Im outta here,…screw you all,…and F my old lady too she was bangin a Raider anyway,…I just wish he would have taken out some of those Hunts before he checked out.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:32 am
I wonder what the F his problem was. Should have just shot himself but the piece of crap had to take someone else with him.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Maybe his gf wanted to get married, so he decided to save them from years of pain, arguing, and BS.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:32 am
If he had taken his own life I would feel sorry for him. He just wanted out of this world.
He deserves scorn, not pity let alone grace for taking another life.
Semi curious as to what she did to make him go off
December 1st, 2012 at 8:35 am
GG
I must disagree. Though I believe Hue and Cable both did alot of good, when it came down to crunch time against good teams we got crushed.
We did not just lose we got crushed.
Again, plaease look it up.
Just last year, we got pounded by the Fish, Packers, and Chargers and blew a big lead to the Lions WHEN IT COUNTED!
EVERYONE SAID BRESNAHAN IS AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
NOW THE SAME THING HAS HAPPENED UNDER TARVER. TARVER IS NOT AN IDIOT.
Seymour is pathetic collecting $11.5 million and not even practicing. Kelly is a backup at best. I could go on and on.
Our players are bad.
Of the 27 palyers Reggie has gotten rid of 13 are out of the league!!! That is pathetic and no coach can even come close to be competitive with that disadvantage.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:36 am
McLain ever flips out like that his old lady is safe,..even at close range he would miss her.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:36 am
Probaly the same old story. He loved and cherished her mantamer. He felt it was the greatest thing in the world and no other women could be as good as her. So he lavished her with money and gifts and love.
Then he found out she was sharing that precious puzzy with another man.
BANG!!
December 1st, 2012 at 8:39 am
Maybe his gf wanted to get married, so he decided to save them from years of pain, arguing, and BS.
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LMAO
December 1st, 2012 at 8:40 am
I must disagree. Though I believe Hue and Cable both did alot of good, when it came down to crunch time against good teams we got crushed.
Charlie, That’s why the best possible result would have been one more year with Cable at the helm and Hue concentrating on offense.
The club would have been improving and would have been able to stay on track after Als death.
New management would have a hard time firing coaches that had just taken the team to the playoffs with an easy division title.
But we are where we are, hoping that Reggie and the DA become everything they hope to be
December 1st, 2012 at 8:40 am
News reports from KC says the player who killed himself was 25. Assuming he was 25, I guess this narrows it down a bit.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:41 am
I wonder if that Cheat player was trolly troll who I told to axe himself. That would be sweet.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:42 am
The Panthers (who play KC) have been told to fly on down to KC. I guess they expect the team to be ok with this thing.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:43 am
Bob, you are a bigger piece of sh*t than I thought.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
#767
I endured 2011 too. I saw those games. Not saying we have a SB roster. Not many teams do. Every organization has a roster full of deficiencies, including teams who are playing well, or division leaders. But you still have to do your best with what you have.
In other words, the Raiders roster is not that less-talented than a lot of other teams, either below .500 or on or over .500 There’s no reason they shouldn’t be more competitive. Losing happens, and sometimes a blow out loss happens here and there.
But that four game streak of getting pounded is inexcusable and points to a divide between players and coaches, lockerroom divide. Just saying Allen is justifiably on the hot-seat heading into 2013. And, if we keep getting pounded over the remaining games, Reggie would surely know it’s coaching.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
BREAKING NEWS: That Chief was just informed his 2013 year team option was picked up. I dont blame the guy.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:45 am
Well Albert thats your fault for underestimating me, not mine.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:51 am
Chiefs that are 25 according to their roster:
Arenas Javier
Belcher Jovan
Brown Jelil
Charles Jameel
Maoki Tony
Newton Jamar
Paao Jerrell
Stanzi, Ricci
Tanney Alex
Patterson Luke
December 1st, 2012 at 8:52 am
The Chiefs Website states we can confirm there was an incident at Arrowhead Stadium today.
Okay.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:52 am
Q,..its Belcher,..get with it.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:53 am
Is it just me, or did the Reggie interview really contain anything of substance? Did the reporters ask the right questions or same on over and over?
Bring back Mark!
December 1st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:56 am
qodrn1 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:53 am
Is it just me, or did the Reggie interview really contain anything of substance? Did the reporters ask the right questions or same on over and over?
Bring back Mark!
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I think it did. Where Reggie says I am tired of guys coming on the sideline saying my bad after missing an assignment? That was pretty candid.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:56 am
They asked the questions they thought they could ask without being kicked out of that room,…there was a lot of awesome catered food in there.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
Chiefs that are 25 according to their roster:
Arenas Javier
Belcher Jovan
Brown Jelil
Charles Jameel
Maoki Tony
Newton Jamar
Paao Jerrell
Stanzi, Ricci
Tanney Alex
Patterson Luke
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And we think we got problems. That is a pretty bare cup board right there.
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
So, the guy goes to the stadium tells the coaches about the murder, they leave him alone and boom! Or did he kill himself in front of the coaches?
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
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Go kill yourself.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:00 am
Crazy what happened in Kansas City…
Buenos Dias Raiders!
December 1st, 2012 at 9:01 am
Lol Albert…”go kill yourself”…thats the last thing Belchers old lady told him,..but he had one little thing to do before he did what she wanted him to do…word.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:02 am
Also from the Kansas City Star:
By Jason McKee
Trampled Under Foot
Forget all the talk of Oakland becoming a cleaner and less mistake-prone team with Al Davis no longer leading the organization.
These are the Raiders we know so well in Kansas City.
With the Bengals well on their way to a 34-10 win, an inadvertant whistle midway through the fourth quarter erased a fumble return for a touchdown by Oakland’s Tyvon Branch. On the next play, Bengals tackle Andre Smith was flagged for a false start. After the whistle, Raiders defensive end Lamarr Houston tackled quarterback Andy Dalton.
A brawl ensued.
Bengals left tackle Andrew Whitworth went after Houston, with their facemasks slamming together before several other players joined in.
“When the whistle is blown four times and the guy does something like that to Andy, it’s my job to step in there and I had to,” Whitworth said.
Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly left the bench, and the fray ended with Kelly and Houston on top of Whitworth. All three players were ejected.
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis was OK with Whitworth defending his quarterback.
“I think they — in my opinion — took a little bit of a cheap shot at the quarterback and Andrew came to his rescue, plain and simple,” Lewis said.
Whitworth had a simple explanation for what happened.
“They were probably looking for a fight because they weren’t doing much on the field,” Whitworth said.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/26/3934598/nfl-blitz-raiders-return-to-form.html#storylink=cpy
December 1st, 2012 at 9:06 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
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Go kill yourself.
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Why don’t you try something original? Oh right I forgot you’re maddenraider and you live in “Chicago”.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:08 am
Seymour, I usually agree with your football takes. It’s too bad you’re such an annoying jack ass.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:09 am
qodrn1 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
So, the guy goes to the stadium tells the coaches about the murder, they leave him alone and boom! Or did he kill himself in front of the coaches?
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I guess we will get more details shortly but apparently he killed his girlfriend, neighbors heard the scuffle and called police. They alerted the team as he was driving to Arrowhead. The coaches approached the player and he blew his head off basically in front of them. Something Albert could do here.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:10 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 9:08 am
Seymour, I usually agree with your football takes. It’s too bad you’re such an annoying jack ass.
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If you weren’t a meddling busy body it wouldn’t matter.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:14 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
BREAKING NEWS: That Chief was just informed his 2013 year team option was picked up. I dont blame the guy.
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JG2013 you are a low life POS scumbag.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:15 am
Take the football out of the tragedy and remember these are human beings like you and me. There’s plenty of families in mourning but some on here are insensitive, disrespectful and neanderthal like in poking fun at what occured.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:15 am
The 25-year-old Belcher, who started 10 games this season, reportedly fired the first gunshots around 8 a.m., and then drove to the facility a short time later. Making matters worse, Belcher and his girlfriend had a baby less than three months ago.
Several Chiefs coaches confronted Belcher, urging him not to take his own life, police say.
Police: #Chiefs player, 25, was met by coaches in the parking lot of the practice facility and then took his own life.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:20 am
Word out of Kansas City is that linebacker Javon Belcher, killed his girlfriend then committed suicide in front of head coach and GM in his car.
Belcher has a very young son with girlfriend.
This is quite sad.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:23 am
Very Sad news….horrible news …
December 1st, 2012 at 9:24 am
I hope the son is okay.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:28 am
He had a son… ?…my gawd…. So the son is now without parents… Hard to even think that things could be so bad that a person resorts to this …must have really be in pain..
December 1st, 2012 at 9:28 am
Been
December 1st, 2012 at 9:29 am
Don’t know what to say or think – only checked in to see if there was any more news ’bout Romac.
Very sad news.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:31 am
Steroids? Brain injury? Or just crazy?
You have to wonder.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:31 am
RIP to the girlfriend and thoughts go out to his son.
Belcher can rot in that place people refer to as hell.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:32 am
PFT’s has nothing ’bout the child.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:35 am
Kirk Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 9:31 am
Steroids? Brain injury? Or just crazy?
You have to wonder.
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Yes, why would Reggie let da keep knapp around? Must be one of those reasons!
December 1st, 2012 at 9:38 am
729.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
Reggiehater will be banned again. Of course he’ll come back with another name, though.
DAAAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. waaaaaaaaaaaa.Cant ban a legend son. Fk off. Act like a cheif and pop a cap in yourself.Save somebody else the trouble.Nobody likes a little rat.In my neiborhood they would find you in the dumpster.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:38 am
Tommy Kelly…”I just don’t want him to get in a situation where he’s the scapegoat…He’s not what’s wrong with the team.”
No, Tommy, YOU’RE what’s wrong with the team, you fat, lazy, mouthy piece of trash. Have Kelly or Seymour made a play all year???
December 1st, 2012 at 9:41 am
One of Belcher’s facebook likes is a page called ‘Male Athletes Against Violence’.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:47 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 9:41 am
One of Belcher’s facebook likes is a page called ‘Male Athletes Against Violence’.
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And today’s Word of the Day is “IRONY”.
December 1st, 2012 at 9:54 am
Scumbag of the earth comment. No wonder you are now logged in on your RaiderDuck alias.
Your parents failed you every way imaginable.
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:41 am
I wonder if that Cheat player was trolly troll who I told to axe himself. That would be sweet.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:03 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 9:54 am
Scumbag of the earth comment. No wonder you are now logged in on your RaiderDuck alias.
Your parents failed you every way imaginable.
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Seymour Bush doesn’t have a RaiderDuck alias, because I’M RaiderDuck and can assure I have never ever posted here under any other username.
In other words, your knowledge of board IDs is as daft as your political predictions skills. “Romney Landslide,” anyone?
December 1st, 2012 at 10:04 am
A 3mth old girl……
December 1st, 2012 at 10:05 am
This is a repost from several days ago, but certainly worth revisiting to those who continue to blame Darrius Heyward-Bey for the Raiders’ passing game shortcomings. In the eyes of some of you, Denarius Moore is the prototypical wide receiver and should never be criticized for his mistakes, while Heyward-Bey draws your ire on a daily basis.
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It is utter nonsense that Darrius Heyward-Bey gets so much flak from you nincompoops. There’s nothing wrong with his talent, except that it is grossly underutilized. Hue Jackson always wanted Denarius Moore — a strong talent when he’s on the field – to be his #1 WR. He obviously put this notion into Carson Palmer’s head as well, as Palmer has consistently raved about Moore, despite Heyward-Bey making Palmer look very good at the end of last season to the tune of 40 or so receptions. Even as Moore remained on the sideline throughout training camp, Palmer still spoke of him glowingly, while all Heyward-Bey did was show up daily and, by all accounts, caught pretty much everything thrown his way.
Once the real games started, Palmer all but ignored Heyward-Bey on the field and, when he does throw his way, the passes are often short — if not at his ankles — or in desperation when the game is already out of reach.
As far as dropped passes, Heyward-Bey has dropped a few this season — two that I remember clearly. His omission from the offense might not have been a difference in our record, but it surely would make the team’s offense stronger. Below, I submit to the asinine — please do look this word up in the dictionary as it is blatantly apparent that a great many of you here match the description — those NFL players who have dropped the most passes this season. Note the two Raiders’ players on the list, and that one Raider who is not. Remember, before a player can drop the pass, he has to be THROWN the pass!
I’d also like to see the link to the list mentioned earlier by the idiot who said the Raiders have THREE of the top 15 pass-droppers in the NFL.
NFL Leaders in Passes Dropped
Rank Player Team Stats
1t Victor Cruz NYG 9
1t Jimmy Graham NO 9
3t Doug Martin TB 8
3t Brandon Pettigrew Det 8
3t Demaryius Thomas Den 8
6t Brent Celek Phi 7
6t Eric Decker Den 7
6t Calvin Johnson Det 7
6t Brandon Myers Oak 7
6t Reggie Wayne Ind 7
11t Dez Bryant Dal 6
11t Jermichael Finley GB 6
11t Brandon Marshall Chi 6
11t Denarius Moore Oak 6
11t Jordy Nelson GB 6
11t Andre Roberts Ari 6
11t Cecil Shorts Jac 6
11t Mike Wallace Pit 6
11t Wes Welker NE 6
11t Jason Witten Dal 6
December 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am
What a waist.If he wanted to pop a cap in somebody,it should’ve been Raiderduck,Robert,Mcfadden20,Albert the idiot and miamiraider78.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:09 am
Good Morning Nation!
A man took the life of someone else then himself…in front of his HC and GM…and goodell tells Carolina that the game will go on…I don’t know what is more upsetting…
December 1st, 2012 at 10:10 am
edward teach Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 5:44 am
686.dr_robert Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 3:32 am
it’s funny how differently players can be seen by fans watching the same game.
according to priest, wiz is “thinking too much” and not getting a good early “punch”, and it’s not due to strength. of course, all the experts think wiz’s strengths are thinking and getting a good initial punch and his weakness is poor strength and getting overpowered.
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Which is another reason I’m still half pissed that we didn’t take Maurkice Pouncey when we had the chance, and took McClain instead.
If Kirk Morrrison wasn’t hot garbage the choice might have been easier, I suppose.
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Yeah. Al passed on a lot of players.
I really wanted Al to draft Alex Mack.
McKenzie should have re-signed Satele until he knew positively that he had a great replacement.
Wiz played great at LG last year but it’s still questionable whether Wiz has the size or strength to play center–a position that he barely played in college.
As things stand, the OL is nowhere near as good as last year.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:11 am
789.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
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Go kill yourself.
Ut oh,now Im gonna have to run to cok,I mean Cork.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Albert.Cork says you are gonna be banned.Cant say KILL on here.See ya jerky.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:15 am
really sad how ignorant and just plain stupid some people are…they know who they are…
December 1st, 2012 at 10:15 am
Hey where’s the millonaire? Ya know the guy from Sunnyvale Indiana all 6ft2 and 220 lbs of him.He eats lots of corn ya know.lol.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
Reggiehater Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Albert.Cork says you are gonna be banned.Cant say KILL on here.See ya jerky.
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Cork is lazy. I already reported you. He hasn’t done anything yet.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
Immigration is tracking some of you on here.You know who you are.Just doing my duty as a U.S. citizen.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am
Cork is lazy. I already reported you. He hasn’t done anything yet.
Are you saying that your a whiny little gina? DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. Thanks for telling everybody.Run home to mommy now.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am
Authorities received a call Saturday morning from a woman who said her daughter had been shot multiple times at a residence about five miles from the Arrowhead complex.
“When we arrived, a lady informed us that her daughter had been shot multiple times by her boyfriend, by the daughter’s boyfriend,” Snapp said. “She identified him as a Chiefs player.”
Snapp said a call was then received from the Chiefs’ headquarters.
“The description matched the suspect description from that other address,” Sapp said. “We kind of knew what we were dealing with.” The player was “holding a gun to his head” as he stood in front of the front doors of the practice facility, he added.
“And there were Pioli and Crennel and another coach or employee was standing outside and appeared to be talking to him,” Snapp said. “It appeared they were talking to the suspect. The suspect began to walk in the opposite direction of the coaches and the officers, and that’s when they heard the gunshot. It appears he took his own life.”
The coaches told the police they never felt in any danger, Snapp said.
“They said the player was actually thanking them for everything they’d done for him,” he said. “They were just talking to him and he was thanking them and everything. That’s when he walked away and shot himself.”
December 1st, 2012 at 10:22 am
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
#767
I endured 2011 too. I saw those games. Not saying we have a SB roster. Not many teams do. Every organization has a roster full of deficiencies, including teams who are playing well, or division leaders. But you still have to do your best with what you have.
In other words, the Raiders roster is not that less-talented than a lot of other teams, either below .500 or on or over .500 There’s no reason they shouldn’t be more competitive. Losing happens, and sometimes a blow out loss happens here and there.
But that four game streak of getting pounded is inexcusable and points to a divide between players and coaches, lockerroom divide. Just saying Allen is justifiably on the hot-seat heading into 2013. And, if we keep getting pounded over the remaining games, Reggie would surely know it’s coaching.
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A nother great post by my main man GG………now here’s a Raider fan with a clue.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Well, NFL pregame shows will be a lot more dry tomorrow.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:26 am
Reggiehater Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
Immigration is tracking some of you on here.You know who you are.Just doing my duty as a U.S. citizen.
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Duty?
Get a job, pay taxes, and stop getting gov aid.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am
Reggiehater Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am
Cork is lazy. I already reported you. He hasn’t done anything yet.
Dude,you just admitted to everybody you are a little girl.OMG! You go.Bet you got your a$$ beat on a daily basis in school huh?
December 1st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Post #817, great post and it is the very reason I do not spend a lot of time in here arguing anymore with these people because facts don’t enter into their thinking very much. It’s all about who’s popular in this silly ass blog.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:30 am
831.Raider O Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:26 am
Reggiehater Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
Immigration is tracking some of you on here.You know who you are.Just doing my duty as a U.S. citizen.
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Duty?
Get a job, pay taxes, and stop getting gov aid.
Im sure my tax dollars paid for you and your family’s 7-11.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:30 am
Sad he had to take someone else’s life, before he took his own…
Jilted lover or concussion syndrome?
Game must go on, this is a business first and foremost…
December 1st, 2012 at 10:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:39 am
Maybe his gf wanted to get married, so he decided to save them from years of pain, arguing, and BS.
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LMAO
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Jeeeeeeeeeeeze! And I thought I was cynical.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:31 am
Reggiehater Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am
Reggiehater Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am
Cork is lazy. I already reported you. He hasn’t done anything yet.
Dude,you just admitted to everybody you are a little girl.OMG! You go.Bet you got your a$$ beat on a daily basis in school huh?
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Just doing my duty as an American and reporting blog terrorism.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:33 am
Just doing my duty as an American and reporting blog terrorism.
Another lie,Im sure your not an American.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:33 am
Lol
I was talking about income tax and not sales tax. You need a job that pays income so you can pay taxes. Allowance from your mother doesn’t count as income.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:34 am
@833, agreed. I think that is only my 3rd post in here for several years. There’s very little intelligent life here, and general football knowledge is also scarce.
To argue with a fool is to show oneself to be a fool.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Reggie sure did gloss over the ‘Rookie Mistakes’ part of his conference…
I didn’t realize English was a second language to him…
Referring to Ted Thompson’s comments when he took over were weak,
Stop making EXCUSES and get this thing right, or get out!
YOUR GUY at the Helm, looks lost and beaten down by this gig…
Maybe you should’ve interviewed more than 1 candidate before you hired anyone.
Mark sgould’ve done some interviewing too, but he’s a CLOWN and Reg is supposed to know what he’s doing!
December 1st, 2012 at 10:41 am
839.Raider O Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:33 am
Lol
I was talking about income tax and not sales tax. You need a job that pays income so you can pay taxes. Allowance from your mother doesn’t count as income.
Go feed your camel and shut up!
December 1st, 2012 at 10:42 am
#829 and ref back to #767 -
Sometimes, I think we Raider fans stand too close and don’t see the whole picture. For the last 10 years, at least, and more like 25 years, we’ve been subjected to sub-average rosters with few exceptions. Based on that standard, we’ve clutched at any straw thrown our way and have tended to elevate very average players and/or coaching to “savior” status.
The 2011 Raiders were very exemplary of that. People on this forum talk up the 2011 Raiders like they were a player or two from the Super Bowl and like Hue Jackson was the 2011 coming of John Madden from 1976. It just wasn’t there, and it’s not there this year. I thought Reggie was very frank yesterday in talking about this year’s team with regard to its overall talent level and particularly with regard to its limitations in depth. A rise in overall team talent level and depth is coming.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:42 am
The O in RaiderO must stand for OKNAD Muhammedd
December 1st, 2012 at 10:49 am
Gangsta pudding aka Dumpster Baby aka Reggiehater,
Why use a negative stereotype? Why not use a positive one?
Camel: Benz
7-11: oil refinery
December 1st, 2012 at 10:50 am
These folks in here want to cut every player THEY DOn’T LIKE. The first thing that flies out of their ignorant mouths is CUT him.
Let me explain a few things to y’all who aren’t cognizant of it. Reggie played McClains position he played the position he knows what he’s looking at he knows what that player can and cannot do. He also knows whether or not the COACH is as much at fault as the player. Reggie said one thing that speaks volumns to me as a longtime Raider fan and this is what made me feel better about HIM as a GM. He said “this is my football team” I know to many it may seem simple or insignificant. But to me as a Raiders fan most of my life that speaks to my soul. He is taking ownership first and foremost he’s not shucking his responsibility to some coach who’s intentions may not jive with his.
You see I’ve paid a lot of attention to DA since he’s been here and I just don’t like what I see. He seems too indifferent for my taste as if he’s saying ‘if I don’t make it here I can get another job no problem’. It’s not personal to him like it is to Reggie from where I sit. He can get rid of player doghoues players scapegoat players all he wants because it’s NOT personal to him. If it were left up to DA TP6 would be buried further down than he already is. The same is ture with TJ22 and others DA is not trying to win as much as he is trying to win with who he wants to win with if that makes sense. IOW ‘if I screw over a few players’ that is my perogative.
Reggie served notice Friday he will not stand idolly by while this fool makes him look stupid. Because IMO taht is exactly what was happening it looked to me that Reggie was just allowing this guy to underdevelope talent based on some whim right or wrong. On top of that it seems Mark Davis was persona-non grata and I’m glad to see that that is NOT the case at all. But Reggie’s feet are being firmly held to the fire to get this fixed and stop with the freakin excuses laying blame at a dead man’s feet.
This for me I’m not speaking for anyone other than myself but all this makes me as a Raider fan more interested in seeing how things turn out. Rather than just giving them all a middle finger salute and moving on. I’m not against Reggie taking over and doing his thing as long as it means something personal to him and not some job he has until he gets the next one. I aint for that crap one bit………if that is any of their hidden intentions stop getting rid of players and scapegoating them and get the hell out NNOOOOWWWW!!!
December 1st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Shhh! Everyone be quiet. Priest is speaking. Please bestow your wisdom on us.
December 1st, 2012 at 10:58 am
But Reggie’s feet are being firmly held to the fire to get this fixed and stop with the freakin excuses laying blame at a dead man’s feet.
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I liked his PC, but that part bothered me. You are lucky to be an NFL GM (32 jobs and they don’t hire every year), so STFU and do your job instead of giving excuses.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:03 am
Raider O Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 10:58 am
But Reggie’s feet are being firmly held to the fire to get this fixed and stop with the freakin excuses laying blame at a dead man’s feet.
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I liked his PC, but that part bothered me. You are lucky to be an NFL GM (32 jobs and they don’t hire every year), so STFU and do your job instead of giving excuses.
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Everyone who follows the NFL knows that Al Davis ran a terrible organization. The excuses are valid.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am
MR,
We know how you feel about AL. He is dead, so get over it.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:06 am
Ignorance is bliss…
December 1st, 2012 at 11:07 am
Al ran a terrible org that won 3 SBs, played in 5 SBs, and he is a HOF owner/ GM.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:10 am
Raider O no need to argue man some people can’t see past their nose. They are predisposed to believe a lie.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:13 am
BHP,
I don’t get it. How many owners/ GMs are in the HOF? How many teams have 3 rings? They act like he was the worst GM/ owner in the NFL.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am
Looks more and more like we should have kept Hue, and brought in a defensive guy. Say what you want about Al, but he always kept players he wanted and made it work. There is no excuse for this regression.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am
All this crap and we played in a SB in 2002.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am
Al is Al! He was the Maverick of the NFL! Did things his way more than Frank Sinatra! And I believe he was starting to getting the ship righted! RIP!
December 1st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Anyone notice just how much more man coverage is being played around the league lately? Guess Al was just insane, huh.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:21 am
Looks more and more like we should have kept Hue, and brought in a defensive guy. Say what you want about Al, but he always kept players he wanted and made it work. There is no excuse for this regression.
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They know better it’s just bitter hatred that would allow someone to blame a man who’s been dead for over a year for what we saw in the past 4 games. Simple utter ignorance and hatred………..period
I haven’t seen any team look that bad in 4 straight games. And then a dead man get the blame……….lol
December 1st, 2012 at 11:22 am
Priest,
Just shut up boy. Dr Roberts already sent you packing with your weak analysis of Wiz. He stomped you so bad you left quietly last night and have ignored it today.
Give it up. Youre done here. Zero credibility whatsoever.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Why be a dic?
December 1st, 2012 at 11:29 am
They’ve been playing a lot of man for a while but I do see what you mean. When the TB Bucs went to man I knew something was up. Next the Steelers are starting go more to man D. Now if that didn’t tell ya’ something.
Guys their is just a culture in here that has become almost a parallel universe it exist only in here.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:32 am
Everyone talks about Al’s incompetence of being horrible “for a decade”.
Yes. It sucked. Darkest period in Raider history, but…it was really only 7 yr’s…then we had the consecutive 8-8’s. History will not put an asterisk on last yr’s 8-8 and cite “Palmer playing near his home in La Jolla” or say ‘but the games were close and Raiders had a weak schedule.’
I want to get behind DA….i have no choice he’s our coach and i’m rooting for him but we need to start to see something even with our current roster.
No more beatdowns. Not acceptable imo.
December 1st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Big Reggie supporter but thought that he waited too long to hire a head coach and DA was hampered getting assistants he really wanted. I’ll evaluate DA once the season ends and he makes decisions on his coaching staff.
The scariest thing in the Reggie Q&A was that, with Palmer on the roster, he said he didn’t have quality leaders on this team. Obviously, he doesn’t like slowlando, but that comment speaks volumes on his thoughts of Palmer. I’ve always liked CP3, but after that comment, I may be buying into the time for Pryor group.
December 1st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Reggie has spoken before about Palmer’s leadership. In all fairness, I think he was speaking about the dirth of leaders in other areas outside of the qb.
December 1st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
“Say what you want about Al, but he always kept players he wanted and made it work”
Huh? He did? Outside of the Gruden turnaround, Al saw to it nothing worked after the LA Raiders last won the SB.
Worst thing Al ever did was move the team to LA. While he had talent there for a while, there were repercussions throughout his business model from which he never recovered.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
shutdown…wierd handle with this zone defense….
December 1st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
“Scouting” potential playas for the Raids in the ALabama Georgia game. Gotta say I’m rooting for Georgia after are recent troubles with their alum (McTwitter).
That John Jenkins DT guy looks big enough, but not impressing as much as Suh did in College.
P.S. Although Bama’s in my dog house, that Lacey guy looks like a bruiser at RB, we need one of those in Silver and Black…
December 1st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
So Pryor will be active this game but no clue whether he’ll get in. Based on what Reggie said, Special Teams still needs improvement. Pryor is a great athlete and supposedly has a great work ethic. No better way to prove yourself than to get in there on cover teams and make something happen. This would be a great way to convince that kid that his contributions will be greater as a non-QB, with the possible exception of some gimmicky wild cat stuff.
December 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
“The scariest thing in the Reggie Q&A was that, with Palmer on the roster, he said he didn’t have quality leaders on this team. Obviously, he doesn’t like slowlando, but that comment speaks volumes on his thoughts of Palmer. I’ve always liked CP3, but after that comment, I may be buying into the time for Pryor group.”
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It’s difficult to parse Reggie-speak, but I didn’t read it that way. I read that he was calling out CP3 as an example of bringing in newer guys that show leadership where the old guard is failing.