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Pryor will be active, Seymour out, McFadden game-time decision

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said he envisions second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor being one of the 46 players active for Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Browns.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) and linebacker Rolando McClain (suspended) will be among the seven players inactive for the game, Allen said.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson are questionable as they continue their quest to return from high-ankle sprains suffered Nov. 4. Allen said both players will be game-time decisions.

– Allen said the decision to suspend McClain was his, though he consulted with general manager Reggie McKenzie.
Beyond that, Allen said he intends to keep to himself the details of what precipitated the two-game suspension.
“All I’ll say is that I met with Rolando this morning and informed him that I decided to suspend him for two games for conduct detrimental to the team,” Allen said. “That’s really all the details I have for you.”
When pressed, Allen said:
“I’m not going to get into any of the specifics of anything that happened, that went into the decision,” Allen said. “That’s team-related matters. We’re going to keep that within the family.”
McClain’s roster spot won’t be filled this week. Allen said he will decide whether to add a player for next Thursday night’s game against the Denver Broncos.

– Quarterback Carson Palmer (thumb) took all the reps with the first-team offense today, and he is good to go for the Browns game, Allen said.
It remains unclear whether Pryor will get any action against the Browns and, if so, in what capacity.
Matt Leinart is the primary backup, with Pryor the No. 3.
“He needs to start getting some, what it feels like to suit up on game day and we’ll see if we play him in the game,” Allen said of Pryor.

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  • Raider Riff

    Allen and TP might be a batter fit for each other than they ever could realize.

    DA might see the kid as a burden at the moment and TP might resent being buried on the depth chart. But in the end, that tension can often be healthy.

    All TP needs is an honest chance.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    #700 TP has genuinely morphed into the anti-thesis of Russell. A guy with incredible god-given talent, but matured now in the mind, becoming more cerebral a player, humbled, loving the work ethic lifestyle more each day, wanting to be great, taking nothing for granted, AND is learning patience. The “he says all the right things” dynamic has changed from last year to this if you’ve all noticed. Last year it was a bit put on. But this year you can tell he’s genuine this time, specific things he says now you can tell are coming from his heart.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    If Palmer isn’t our QB next year, we are going to spend the entire season in here debating whether we should have kept Palmer or not.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I’m not with all this Reggie-bashing. If you want to argue that he should’ve, at least, extended an offer to Hue to stay on as OC then I’ll listen.

    ***

    Hue Jax didn’t only want to stay on board as HC, but he wanted a say in who the GM (his boss) should be

    You think he’d accept a demotion to OC?

    You know that by the Raiders firing him, they still had to pay him, Right?

    Hue wasn’t going to swallow his pride. He was gonna take the money and leave with a smile on his face like Lane Kiffin and many others did

  • RaiderRockstar

    Plenty of married guys on here?!?

    Sharing the idea of wanting to get married always returns negative feedback. lol

    ***

    Miami,

    I’m the minority here. I love my wife and being married

    we don’t agree on everything all the time and we argue some, but at the end of the day she’s my woman and I wouldn’t want to live with anybody else

  • RaiderRockstar

    Back-n-Black Says:
    November 30th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Reggie dropped the ra-ra bs today… dropped all the “this team can win”, “I believe in these guys”, etc… and just came out and said these guys suck. lol

    He basically said, “hey, when I got here I thought guys like Seymour and McClain would step up and impose their will on the defense and become on the field leaders, but neither of them are capable.”

    Said that Allen has made mistakes and sometimes the wrong plays have been called at the wrong times but MOST of it is simply the players not doing what they have been coached to do on a consistent basis.

    Said the front office was a mess and the Raiders were way over the cap and had to dump talent and depth to get under the cap. Wasn’t able to sign high profile free agents because there was no money.

    Said it would take time to DRAFT & SIGN their way out of this mess and get players in here who want to play.

    THANK YOU REGGIE! The first step on the road to recovery is to ADMIT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. Stop living in denial. This team sucks and I’m tired of defending guys like DHB, McFadden, Palmer, McClain, Huff, and all the other subpar talent trying to be passed off as NFL players.

    I for one am looking forward to the day when this team is stacked again like they were in 2000-2003. When they could get to the Super Bowl with Bill freakin Callahan as a coach.

    ***

    this blogger “gets it”. I agree with everything. thanks for sharing BNB!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Riff,

    thanks for posting those quotes by Tommy Kelly regarding the McClain situation. Speaks volumes imo

    Kelly doesn’t think there should be consequences for subpar play. He’s not a fan of discipline. I remember him complaining about the money jar in the locker room where guys had to pay every time they were flagged a couple years ago. He speaks to the media a lot and he may be our best pass rushing interior lineman, but he gets abused versus the run year after year. Plus he’s way overpaid

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I look forward to the day when we can sit down to watch a Raider game and not expect them to lose.

  • fingers

    I’m looking forward to seeing the Raiders make Tackles again….
    These guys should know how to tackle by now….make a Gawd Damn stop ..

  • RaiderRockstar

    reading Reggie’s transcript again and I don’t think half of this roster will be Raiders heading into the first preseason game of 2013

    he has a team full of loser players with bloated contracts and no accountability, desire or leadership

  • fingers

    Rockstar…. Agree… Gonna be a big turnover…. It’s a good thing …
    They’ll be watching for the guys who haven’t packed it in these last 5 games… Guys that still have desire

  • RaiderRockstar

    Reggie is no fan of Rolando. If Gaither flops in the middle the next 2 games and #55 makes a public apology it’ll be interesting to see what happens

    If Gaither starts the rest of the season or maybe they slide Burris over to MLB then I think McRussell is toast

  • fingers

    I’d just as soon see the cut McClain now… But their may be contract issues I’m not aware of…

  • RaiderRockstar

    “defense, I don’t want to give up big runs. That means our gap control has gotten to a minimum as far as making mistakes.” – Raiders GM

    ***

    DAV has Trent Richardson on his fantasy football team in Dell’s league and we’re facing off this week to see who makes the playoffs. I hope our defense responds to Reggie!!

    I was thinking he’d get at least 20 fantasy points from T-Rich this week, which would be a season high

  • fingers

    Bnb’s post is a good one…. I’d only differ that I’ll still defend Palmer…. He may not be the answer but the effort and desire are there ….. The Raiders need to start thinking future QB now while they still have Palmer under contract….. They need than franchise Qb …find one….
    Pryor?.. Don’t know … But it’d be nice if we found out he was the guy…. I haven’t seen enough yet ..

  • fingers

    Typo… ” they need that Franchise Qb”..

  • edward teach

    686.dr_robert Says:
    December 1st, 2012 at 3:32 am
    it’s funny how differently players can be seen by fans watching the same game.

    according to priest, wiz is “thinking too much” and not getting a good early “punch”, and it’s not due to strength. of course, all the experts think wiz’s strengths are thinking and getting a good initial punch and his weakness is poor strength and getting overpowered.

    ********************************************************

    Which is another reason I’m still half pissed that we didn’t take Maurkice Pouncey when we had the chance, and took McClain instead.

    If Kirk Morrrison wasn’t hot garbage the choice might have been easier, I suppose.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    There’s nothing wrong with seeing the Reggie press conference as a glass half full…ie, exactly as what Back in Black translated it to mean. Nothing wrong with looking at it like a longer process and celebrating Reggie gutting the roster to fill it with players he wants.

    The only concern is…Reggie’s track-record to date in hitting on draft picks and acquisitions that are not only talented but can elevate out of that passionless and “my bads” on-field display that we’ve been enduring for a decade.

    He can gut the roster all he likes, replacing Huff, McFadden, DHB, Seymour, Kelly, etc, with players of other names, but that doesn’t mean they’ll become the players Reggie envisions them to become. If he guts too much, 2013 will be another bad season, trying to once again acclimate tons of rookies and practice-squad type of talent into consistent high-performers but finding it very tough, again going 3-13 or 5-11, and needing more years of drafting. Seeing as drafting is always a 50:50 or worse type of deal in finding studs.

    We could end up with a hard-working but untalented roster. Like a boring Jaguars. Schweigerts and Fargas’ etc that have a low ceiling of ability. They work hard, fill the right gaps, take the right zones, but can’t physically out-muscle/out-elevate/out-speed their direct opponents.

    I’ll admit Jeremy Stewart looks very servicable. He runs hard and low, busts tackles and fights for yards. And naturally I love the Streater and especially the Criner picks. Criner will be a beast next season. Our best and most relied on receiver, our own Dwayne Bowe, with Moore becoming more of a big-play splash receiver like Torrey Smith. I love the Marquette King to IR decision to transition from Lechler. Miles Burris plays hard but might not become a world-beater, but a good solid contributor or depth player.

    It’s one thing wanting guys who are all churchy and work hard, but the NFL is also still Darwinistic in that raw height-weight-speed-strength of the opposition keeps increasing.

  • C2E

    Leinart will have a big game. He’s Knapp’s guy, fits well with the scheme and will make the most of his opportunity. No matter which backs play, it’s going to be screen-a-palooza!

  • edward teach

    I think you’re short-selling Reggie a little bit, GG. Sure, he likes the hard-working character guys and that’s what he’s attempted to bring here during his (very short) tenure.

    Be assured, however, that he wants impact players. Trouble is, there really weren’t any here when he arrived (I suppose you could count McFadden, but how much impact can a guy have when he only plays half the year?) and he had no money or draft picks to get any after he did.

    You will see impact players on the Raiders. Be patient.

  • CanuckRaider

    Slo-Mo is history…Good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • CanuckRaider

    …and he won’t be alone…Load the bus up Reggie.

  • fingers

    This is how bad it is…. The Browns are a 1 point favorite in Oakland this weekend….. Ouch..

  • RaidingTexas

    Wow, and we think our team is desperate for defensive players. Just saw that the Cowboys plucked Sterling Moore off NE’s practice squad.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Reggie for executive of the year.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    #720

    Good contra-post there Edward Teach.

    The impact player point is the best part of that post. The other thing about that tho…he mismanaged an impact player he had! He married himself to a preconceived preference for WCO/ZBS, married himself further to it by grabbing the Knapp-Pollack-Briesel Texans package. And he let half a season fritter away enforcing that system on a roster built for PBS.

    So even if he does get impact players, he has to be more intuitive to that X&O aspect. I read him saying how scheme doesnt matter players have to push opponents off the ball etc etc. But clearly scheme does matter. You don’t use a Brady/Palmer as a short-horizontal thrower with a lot of moving launch-points with rollouts etc. You don’t have DHB running nothing but deep posts and go routes when he can’t catch or track balls over his shoulder well. You don’t use McFadden as a read and react ball carrier.

    It’s important that the GM not meddle with the HC, but the GM runs the entire football operations and his vision and schematics are handprinted on there. He drafts and acquires talent specific to the schemes being used. If we’re running a 3-4, his scouting of defensive talent completely changes from scouting for a 4-3 defense. Same with man coverage vs zone coverage. Both require different talents and abilities. Affects the scouting process.

  • edward teach

    Got a kick out of Dr. Robert vs. Reggiehater last night.

    Like Mistic vs. McFadden20, only with death threats.

    Funny how you can type the President’s name in here and have your comment “awaiting moderation”, but you can threaten to cut a guy’s head off and it sails right through.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Last year I was pissed that Sterling Moore was starting for the Pats. But, the guy has been cut from two teams with horrible pass defenses. He can’t be that good.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Reggiehater will be banned again. Of course he’ll come back with another name, though.

  • edward teach

    Thanks, GG. Always a pleasure going back and forth with you.

    I think McKenzie and the staff knew what they were doing with the ZBS (I know that is a hugely unpopular thing to say in here, but that’s how I feel). McFadden isn’t part of the long term plan. It would have been nice if he were able to thrive in the scheme (and he may surprise us the rest of they year; it seems as though things are getting blocked a little better), but you just can’t hitch your wagon (or your payroll) to a guy that misses as many games as he does and plays the position that has one of the shortest shelf-lives of any in the league. Better to run a scheme that an average back can excel in (and start it as soon as possible so the line gets proficient at it) and save that money for guys that can impact your team for a longer period of time. At least that’s what I think about it.

  • RaidingTexas

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Last year I was pissed that Sterling Moore was starting for the Pats. But, the guy has been cut from two teams with horrible pass defenses. He can’t be that good.

    ————————————

    I think he had one great game for the Pats, but otherwise has proven why he’s practice squad material. But now he’ll get another shot on another bad defense. LOL

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    #730

    Pleasure is mine too :)

    I agree with you about McFadden, not a long-termer, and his injury-proneness. Better to trade him to sure up the OL and Defense. I did like that Reggie is a believer that football is won-lost in the trenches. That’s what I fully believe so I dig that about him.

    To go back to our original points…I do agree that Reggie needs time. Him far more than Allen. Requires about 3-5 years to see the effects of his scouting ability, give him a chance to create his own culture. So you’re right there. Just it’s also an unknown — whether Reggie is gifted in that department. Just because a GM wants to gut and rebuild doesn’t mean he can successfully. We’ll afford him that, but if he doesn’t turn over the coaching staff this off-season. Or, if he allows a whole season to slip away because he is too placid to make coaching changes mid-season, then that’s bad. He cannot do this in future. If you’re 1-4, and able to turn it around with some coaching changes, you can’t sit on your hands refusing to evaluate and decide until only after a season.

  • tuckrulefool

    This says it all fom Reggie:

    “do you have a coach saying, `don’t do this.’ You don’t want that. You want the players to doggone take it upon themselves and run it. We’re not at that level.”

    Expect a huge turnover this offseason…

  • Plunketthead

    Brian Kelly coming up on college gameday

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Am I the only one that thought Notre Dame and Oregon shared a head coach?…just found out they were two different dudes. Damn.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Chiefs ILB Jovan Belcher just shot and killed his girlfriend, then drove to Arrowhead and committed suicide.

  • Kirk

    Our most talented player is inactive while we go 3-8.

    Allen is clueless.

  • Dakota

    Wow! And people the raider players are fked up!

  • RaidingTexas

    BREAKING NEWS
    A Kansas City Chiefs player fatally shot himself at the team’s practice facility Saturday morning, according to NFL Network.

  • Dakota

    Dakota Says:
    December 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am
    Wow! And people think that raider players are fked up!

  • RaidingTexas

    Oh, just saw GG already posted. Wow. Crazy.

  • Charlie

    GG
    Allen will absolutely stay as HC for 4 years.

    There could be some assistant changes but not for the reasons you think.

    Other teams whether college or pro know the real deal in Oakland.
    OUR TEAM LACKS TALENT TO COMPETE AT THE NFL LEVEL.

    Our coaches will be given OFFERS TO LEAVE AND THEY MAY BE ACCEPTED.

    You are correct about 3-5 years. It is a process and there is not a good team at any level that changes coaches and schemes as often as Oaklnad and wins. NOT ONE.LETS GET BETTER PLAYERS. Especially on the lines.
    That is what Reggie will do. He can not concern himself with our past suffering. He can only worry about fixing the mess he was given.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    That is really f*cked up.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Faux John Madden ‏@FauxJohnMadden
    Chiefs player rumored to be involved in murder/suicide is 25-year old LB Jovan Belcher.
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  • Just Fire Baby

    Do the Chiefs get a roster spot exemption for that?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    jfb…stvpid question…

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Wikipedia already has his death date.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
    Reggiehater will be banned again. Of course he’ll come back with another name, though.

    =====================================

    We need an upgraded BB system that can ban people by IP address. If nothing else, put Disqus or something in.

  • RaidingTexas

    Well, I know a MLB/ILB who may be looking for work soon.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I wonder if the Chiefs will even play a game tomorrow. One report says he killed himself in front of Romeo and Pioli.

    Legion Sports ‏@MySportsLegion
    Kansas City beat writer reports that Belcher killed himself in front of the head coach and general manager. Oh my goodness if true.
    Retweeted by ♉ NOR✪CAL RAIDER ➎➓
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