Pryor will be active, Seymour out, McFadden game-time decision

By Steve Corkran
Friday, November 30th, 2012 at 4:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said he envisions second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor being one of the 46 players active for Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Browns.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) and linebacker Rolando McClain (suspended) will be among the seven players inactive for the game, Allen said.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson are questionable as they continue their quest to return from high-ankle sprains suffered Nov. 4. Allen said both players will be game-time decisions.

– Allen said the decision to suspend McClain was his, though he consulted with general manager Reggie McKenzie.
Beyond that, Allen said he intends to keep to himself the details of what precipitated the two-game suspension.
“All I’ll say is that I met with Rolando this morning and informed him that I decided to suspend him for two games for conduct detrimental to the team,” Allen said. “That’s really all the details I have for you.”
When pressed, Allen said:
“I’m not going to get into any of the specifics of anything that happened, that went into the decision,” Allen said. “That’s team-related matters. We’re going to keep that within the family.”
McClain’s roster spot won’t be filled this week. Allen said he will decide whether to add a player for next Thursday night’s game against the Denver Broncos.

– Quarterback Carson Palmer (thumb) took all the reps with the first-team offense today, and he is good to go for the Browns game, Allen said.
It remains unclear whether Pryor will get any action against the Browns and, if so, in what capacity.
Matt Leinart is the primary backup, with Pryor the No. 3.
“He needs to start getting some, what it feels like to suit up on game day and we’ll see if we play him in the game,” Allen said of Pryor.

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http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

#742

I dont entirely agree that it’s lack of talent. There are many examples of rookie HCs, even regime changes, turning it around first year with not a drastic roster change.

Everyone uses Colts in 2012, but the one I think is best is the Buccaneers in 2012. Sure, they had a ton of cap-space and signed V.Jackson. But the point I want to focus on is Raheem Morris in 2011. He had the entire roster playing like bums. He lost the players too. The GM didn’t gut the roster. He fired every single coach. Hired a college coach (someone even less NFL experience than Allen) and he hired his own staff, like Allen did. But he got them IMMEDIATELY playing with fire and commitment. Right from week 1.

With the Raiders new HCs, whether under Al at the end, or now under a totally new GM, they’re still in training camp mode as far as week 12 into the season. Still trying to find themselves, get the players on the same page, build chemistry etc.

The 2012 Buccaneers, essentially a full returning roster from 2011. In 2011 they were absolutely disgraceful on-field. Schiano had them out of training camp mode week 1, all schemed up, all on the same page, all executing well.
Just Fire Baby

The 2012 Buccaneers, essentially a full returning roster from 2011.

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Except for two first round picks, a HOF TE they added, and the most expensive FA signing in the offseason at WR.

I would bet 75% of their total offense wasn’t on the team last year.
r8eray

Reports are just coming in regarding a tragedy involving the Kansas City Chiefs, but here’s what we know at this time. According to KCTV-5 News in Kansas City, an Chiefs player shot and killed his girlfriend at a house near 54th street and Chrysler Avenue on Saturday morning.
The player then drove to a practice facility near the team’s main campus and took his own life. The team’s Arrowhead practice facility was evacuated and is currently on police lockdown.
“We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning,” the team said in a statement this morning. “We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation.”
According to FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer, the name of the player will not be revealed until his family is informed. Glazer also reports that Chiefs players have been asked to assemble at the team’s main facility so that they can be informed of all the details.
The Chiefs are scheduled to play the Carolina Panthers at Arrowhead at 1:00 PM ET Sunday.
Stay tuned for updates on this developing story.
Just Fire Baby

ESPN grantland article has Raiders as -2.5 point favorites tomorrow.
JONGRUDEN2013

I couldnt care less about that POS Chief,..wish he would have taken out some of those Hunt family members before he did himself. Death to the Chiefs!!!!
JONGRUDEN2013

As long as he didnt kill Quinn or Cassell we ok,..need that win in a couple weeks.
JONGRUDEN2013

This dreary season just got good,..Iv hated the Chiefs all my damn life….what a beautiful day.
Al_is_theraiders

dvmbfvcks in here…
JONGRUDEN2013

Ok lighten up,..heres a joke for ya,…Jovan had just heard he was traded to the Raiders.
Charlie

GG

The changes you are referring (Tampa Bay and Gruden come to mind in 2002)were not in the state of disarray that we are and have been for ten years.

Guys, Like Singletary in SF, Dungy in Tampa, Gruden in Oakland etc. did a lot of behind the scenes dirty work and while building both lines with high draft picks OVER SEVERAL YEARS.

Please look at the draft history of consistently good winning teams.They invest 1st and 2nd round picks on the line of scrimmage far more than Oakland has for the last ten years. OAKLAND GOT AWAY FROM WHAT MADE IT GREAT.

Draft lineman in the first round and draft running backs in the fifth round.

Oakland has changed coaches so often with the same results that the root cause is obvious.
http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

I know they added those parts. The point being that the majority who returned from 2011 to 2012, went from looking like total talentless bums to passionate intelligent consistent players. All due to coaching (another point), but also all on the same page and performing from week 1 (another point).

Reggie has altered 50% of the roster this year. He has made changes and their returning players have regressed under the coach. In 2011 they weren’t all bad. In 2012 many who were good are now bad. That’s coaching.

Also…Reggie has to be careful gutting the roster too much. If you keep taking out slabs of players and replacing them with slabs of new players, and do it too often, you will end up always being in training camp mode as you struggle to build chemistry and team unity. If he guts it even more this off-season, 2013 will be another 3-5 Win season due to that. He cant keep gutting the roster every year. He has to eventually bite the bullet that it’s coaching.
http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:21 am
Ok lighten up,..heres a joke for ya,…Jovan had just heard he was traded to the Raiders.

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I’m honestly not sure whether I should be offended or not.
Plunketthead

I wonder what the F his problem was. Should have just shot himself but the piece of crap had to take someone else with him.

I bet Pioli and Romeo thought he was gonna shoot them. They probably were relieved when he put the barrel to his demon possessed mug and pulled the trigger
JONGRUDEN2013

Hey props to that Chief,..he didnt piss and moan about being a Chief,..that record,..he said F this Im outta here,…screw you all,…and F my old lady too she was bangin a Raider anyway,…I just wish he would have taken out some of those Hunts before he checked out.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

I wonder what the F his problem was. Should have just shot himself but the piece of crap had to take someone else with him.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Maybe his gf wanted to get married, so he decided to save them from years of pain, arguing, and BS.
Plunketthead

If he had taken his own life I would feel sorry for him. He just wanted out of this world.
He deserves scorn, not pity let alone grace for taking another life.

Semi curious as to what she did to make him go off
Charlie

GG

I must disagree. Though I believe Hue and Cable both did alot of good, when it came down to crunch time against good teams we got crushed.

We did not just lose we got crushed.

Again, plaease look it up.

Just last year, we got pounded by the Fish, Packers, and Chargers and blew a big lead to the Lions WHEN IT COUNTED!

EVERYONE SAID BRESNAHAN IS AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

NOW THE SAME THING HAS HAPPENED UNDER TARVER. TARVER IS NOT AN IDIOT.

Seymour is pathetic collecting $11.5 million and not even practicing. Kelly is a backup at best. I could go on and on.
Our players are bad.

Of the 27 palyers Reggie has gotten rid of 13 are out of the league!!! That is pathetic and no coach can even come close to be competitive with that disadvantage.
JONGRUDEN2013

McLain ever flips out like that his old lady is safe,..even at close range he would miss her.
Plunketthead

Probaly the same old story. He loved and cherished her mantamer. He felt it was the greatest thing in the world and no other women could be as good as her. So he lavished her with money and gifts and love.

Then he found out she was sharing that precious puzzy with another man.
BANG!!
Just Fire Baby

Maybe his gf wanted to get married, so he decided to save them from years of pain, arguing, and BS.

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LMAO
Plunketthead

I must disagree. Though I believe Hue and Cable both did alot of good, when it came down to crunch time against good teams we got crushed.

Charlie, That’s why the best possible result would have been one more year with Cable at the helm and Hue concentrating on offense.

The club would have been improving and would have been able to stay on track after Als death.

New management would have a hard time firing coaches that had just taken the team to the playoffs with an easy division title.

But we are where we are, hoping that Reggie and the DA become everything they hope to be
qodrn1

News reports from KC says the player who killed himself was 25. Assuming he was 25, I guess this narrows it down a bit.
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

I wonder if that Cheat player was trolly troll who I told to axe himself. That would be sweet.
qodrn1

The Panthers (who play KC) have been told to fly on down to KC. I guess they expect the team to be ok with this thing.
http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

Bob, you are a bigger piece of sh*t than I thought.
http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

#767

I endured 2011 too. I saw those games. Not saying we have a SB roster. Not many teams do. Every organization has a roster full of deficiencies, including teams who are playing well, or division leaders. But you still have to do your best with what you have.

In other words, the Raiders roster is not that less-talented than a lot of other teams, either below .500 or on or over .500 There’s no reason they shouldn’t be more competitive. Losing happens, and sometimes a blow out loss happens here and there.

But that four game streak of getting pounded is inexcusable and points to a divide between players and coaches, lockerroom divide. Just saying Allen is justifiably on the hot-seat heading into 2013. And, if we keep getting pounded over the remaining games, Reggie would surely know it’s coaching.
JONGRUDEN2013

BREAKING NEWS: That Chief was just informed his 2013 year team option was picked up. I dont blame the guy.
http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too.
JONGRUDEN2013

Well Albert thats your fault for underestimating me, not mine.
qodrn1

Chiefs that are 25 according to their roster:

Arenas Javier
Belcher Jovan
Brown Jelil
Charles Jameel
Maoki Tony
Newton Jamar
Paao Jerrell
Stanzi, Ricci
Tanney Alex
Patterson Luke
qodrn1

The Chiefs Website states we can confirm there was an incident at Arrowhead Stadium today.

Okay.
JONGRUDEN2013

Q,..its Belcher,..get with it.
qodrn1

Is it just me, or did the Reggie interview really contain anything of substance? Did the reporters ask the right questions or same on over and over?

Bring back Mark!
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am

Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

qodrn1 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:53 am

Is it just me, or did the Reggie interview really contain anything of substance? Did the reporters ask the right questions or same on over and over?

Bring back Mark!
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I think it did. Where Reggie says I am tired of guys coming on the sideline saying my bad after missing an assignment? That was pretty candid.
JONGRUDEN2013

They asked the questions they thought they could ask without being kicked out of that room,…there was a lot of awesome catered food in there.
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Chiefs that are 25 according to their roster:

Arenas Javier
Belcher Jovan
Brown Jelil
Charles Jameel
Maoki Tony
Newton Jamar
Paao Jerrell
Stanzi, Ricci
Tanney Alex
Patterson Luke
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And we think we got problems. That is a pretty bare cup board right there.
qodrn1

So, the guy goes to the stadium tells the coaches about the murder, they leave him alone and boom! Or did he kill himself in front of the coaches?
http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

Seymour Bush Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am

Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
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Go kill yourself.
MiamiRaider78

Crazy what happened in Kansas City…

Buenos Dias Raiders!
JONGRUDEN2013

Lol Albert…”go kill yourself”…thats the last thing Belchers old lady told him,..but he had one little thing to do before he did what she wanted him to do…word.
qodrn1

Also from the Kansas City Star:

By Jason McKee

Trampled Under Foot

Forget all the talk of Oakland becoming a cleaner and less mistake-prone team with Al Davis no longer leading the organization.

These are the Raiders we know so well in Kansas City.

With the Bengals well on their way to a 34-10 win, an inadvertant whistle midway through the fourth quarter erased a fumble return for a touchdown by Oakland’s Tyvon Branch. On the next play, Bengals tackle Andre Smith was flagged for a false start. After the whistle, Raiders defensive end Lamarr Houston tackled quarterback Andy Dalton.

A brawl ensued.

Bengals left tackle Andrew Whitworth went after Houston, with their facemasks slamming together before several other players joined in.

“When the whistle is blown four times and the guy does something like that to Andy, it’s my job to step in there and I had to,” Whitworth said.

Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly left the bench, and the fray ended with Kelly and Houston on top of Whitworth. All three players were ejected.

Bengals coach Marvin Lewis was OK with Whitworth defending his quarterback.

“I think they — in my opinion — took a little bit of a cheap shot at the quarterback and Andrew came to his rescue, plain and simple,” Lewis said.

Whitworth had a simple explanation for what happened.

“They were probably looking for a fight because they weren’t doing much on the field,” Whitworth said.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/26/3934598/nfl-blitz-raiders-return-to-form.html#storylink=cpy
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am

Seymour Bush Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am

Seymour, you’re a dip sh*t too
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Go watch a movie.
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Go kill yourself.
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Why don’t you try something original? Oh right I forgot you’re maddenraider and you live in “Chicago”.
http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

Seymour, I usually agree with your football takes. It’s too bad you’re such an annoying jack ass.
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

qodrn1 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am

So, the guy goes to the stadium tells the coaches about the murder, they leave him alone and boom! Or did he kill himself in front of the coaches?
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I guess we will get more details shortly but apparently he killed his girlfriend, neighbors heard the scuffle and called police. They alerted the team as he was driving to Arrowhead. The coaches approached the player and he blew his head off basically in front of them. Something Albert could do here.
http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 9:08 am

Seymour, I usually agree with your football takes. It’s too bad you’re such an annoying jack ass.
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If you weren’t a meddling busy body it wouldn’t matter.
No Mas Diamante

JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 am
BREAKING NEWS: That Chief was just informed his 2013 year team option was picked up. I dont blame the guy.

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JG2013 you are a low life POS scumbag.
MiamiRaider78

Take the football out of the tragedy and remember these are human beings like you and me. There’s plenty of families in mourning but some on here are insensitive, disrespectful and neanderthal like in poking fun at what occured.
Plunketthead

The 25-year-old Belcher, who started 10 games this season, reportedly fired the first gunshots around 8 a.m., and then drove to the facility a short time later. Making matters worse, Belcher and his girlfriend had a baby less than three months ago.

Several Chiefs coaches confronted Belcher, urging him not to take his own life, police say.

Police: #Chiefs player, 25, was met by coaches in the parking lot of the practice facility and then took his own life.
qodrn1

Word out of Kansas City is that linebacker Javon Belcher, killed his girlfriend then committed suicide in front of head coach and GM in his car.

Belcher has a very young son with girlfriend.

This is quite sad.

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