Final: Browns 20, Raiders 17
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders problems have more to do with their play than the calendar.
Following a winless November, the Raiders fell 20-10 Sunday to the Cleveland Browns at O.co Coliseum in a battle between teams with identical 3-8 records and both desperate for a win.
The Raiders, 3-9, looked to be putting themselves in position for a chance to steal the game in the fourth quarter until Carson Palmer threw a deep sideline pass to Juron Criner that was intercepted by Sheldon Brown at the 6-yard line.
Oakland trailed 13-10 at the time and was coming off its best offensive and defensive sequence of the game, scoring on a 64-yard lightning bolt from Palmer to Rod Streater and then forcing a Browns punt at the 45-yard line.
The Raiders maneuvered to the Cleveland 33-yard line and had a first-and-10 when Palmer took a shot at Criner.
But instead of putting the ball high and toward the outside where only Criner could get it, Palmer’s pass was underthrown and to the inside, making it an easy interception for Brown with 9:31 remaining.
The Browns, 4-8, then took the ball at their own 6, got out of trouble with a third-and-3 pass from Brandon Weeden to Josh Gordon for 11 yards to the 24, and later had a 22-yard hookup from Weeden to tight end Benjamin Watson to the 46-yard line to kill precious time off the clock.
The Browns eventually finished off a 94-yard, 14-play drive with a 3-yard run by Trent Richardson with 3:27 left in the fourth quarter and consumed 6:04 in elapsed time.
The Raiders scored on a 17-yard pass from Palmer to tight end Brandon Myers with one second remaining. It was Myers’ 14th reception, tying Tim Brown for the franchise record for catches in a game.
For the Browns, it snapped a 12-game road losing streak that began last Oct. 16 wit a 24-17 loss to the Raiders at the Coliseum.
The 64-yard touchdown pass to Streater came after defensive tackle Desmond Bryant got his hand on a 28-yard Phil Dawson field goal attempt, redirecting it to miss to the left.
Dawson had field goals of 41 and 35 yards. Oakland only score other than the Streater touchdown was a 51-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski in the second quarter.
The Raiders’ problems giving up big plays on defense continued unabated, as Weeden completed 25 of 36 passes for 364 yards and a 44-yard touchdown to Josh Gordon. He had two interceptions, one by Matt Giordano and the other by Phillip Adams.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson each missed their fourth consecutive game after being declared inactive.
With a short week coming up and a Thursday night game at home against division-lading Denver, there is no guarantee they’ll be ready to play in the next game.
Quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who was active for the first time this season, did not get in the game for any specialty plays or packages.
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December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
It’s tough to win in the National Football League.
Especially with a team full of backup and practice squad players.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Pat Shurmur is a better head football coach than Dennis Allen.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Cleveland Browns gain almost 500 yards against us, in our backyard. With Brandon Weeden at QB.
This team stinks. No matter who you choose to blame.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Get this Dennis Allen guy out of here and he can take Knapp with him.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
This loss in on Palmer and Knapp. The Raiders should have been running the ball more in the second half. They had success in the first half.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
DA’s clock mgmt is looking pretty bad right now…
Whose oaching the Head Coach ?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Palmer shouldn’t try so many passes , his arm was absolutely tired on that int, why freaking keep dialing pass when your running game is doing good job
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Bobby Bushay Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
DA is over his head. Ascent was too quick. We need a coach with intensity on the sideline during the games. His demeanor does not inspire. I didn’t think our D could be worse than last year… it is. This is what he should be ultimately judged upon. I don’t want him back next year. If he chose his assistant coaches, it was pitiful choices. Unexcusable in this age of NFL football. I didn’t expect a winner, but not this stinkfest.
I support Palmer, but he lost it with the INT. After Denver game, Pryor should start. They NEED to see what they have and what they may need to get next year.
Bronco game will be ugly.
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These coaches are a joke. These players don’t care. They both are to blame for this garbage. We are going to get WAXED by the Broncos. DA shows little to no passion or intensity. His press conferences are about as entertaining and inspiring as watching paint dry. I’m not saying you have to be “rah rah” like Rex Ryan, but listening to him is painfully boring and flat. Can’t imagine the players get much more.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
This game is not an improvement. Still regressing. Almost 500 yards to a 3-8 toilet bowl qualifier. Biggest regression game yet cause we lost. Shoulda beat the team we’re supposed to beat.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Pat Shurmur is a better head football coach than Dennis Allen.
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Why even suit up players?
Just have the coaches play XBox against each other.
The players have nothing to do with it according to y’all.
Hell, I dont know why you watch the game. The stat line is all you care about. You probably just watch the game from your cell phone.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Cleveland Browns gain almost 500 yards against us, in our backyard. With Brandon Weeden at QB.
This team stinks. No matter who you choose to blame.
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Crux of the matter right here.
It takes the players AND coaches to lose like this. People pointing finger at just DA or Knapp or just a certain player or players are missing the point. Total failure from top to bottom.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
big pep Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I FUCN HATE THESE LAST MINUTE GARBAGE FUCN T.DS, BULL SCHYT. PALMER SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BREAK R.GANNON’S YARDS RECORD WITH THIS TEAM AND HIS ILL ADVISED,POORLY,OVER,UNDER THROWN FUCN BALLS. TODAY I SAY TIME TO PASS ON HIM. GET THE KID IN TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Toiletbowl!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Do they always blast “The Autumn Wind” after losses, or was that done today just to drown out the boos.
Either way, pretty pathetic and cheapening to blast our anthem after getting handled at home by a 3-8 Browns team.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Palmer was awesome beside that pick, he should try to give his arm some rest after every 2nd or 3rd pass play, gotta believe he either threw that for a lob cuz Criner is tall or his arm was dead
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
We have no heart, no identity, no leadership.
This is the first week I say, DA has to go.
josh McDaniels > DA
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
excuses mctroll? waiting….
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Palmer shouldn’t try so many passes , his arm was absolutely tired on that int, why freaking keep dialing pass when your running game is doing good job
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You’re exactly right.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
AND START GETTING RID OF ALL THE GARBAGE ON D.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Heads will roll.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Everyone who said DMC sucked, look how bad the offense is without him,, then think how bad the o is with G KNAPP is FIRE KNAPP AND ALLEN and maybe RM… 18 years in front office and this is his first job
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
Can’t imagine the players get much more.
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According to the media, DA is very animated during practice. Lays into them frequently.
Maybe he’s not very animated during the game because he’s not as surprised by all the mistakes as we are? After all, he has to watch these bums do it all week during practice.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
reggie needs to go for allowing this crap…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Legacy play coming up for Norv Turner.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Ok i was right, we need #1 WR and we need new Dline save for Houston
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Eldiabs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Everyone who said DMC sucked, look how bad the offense is without him,,
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Reece & Stewart both averaged 5.1 yards a carry today.
McFadden is part of the problem and should be swept out this offseason. Overpaid underperforming fragile joke.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
“Hue Jackson padded his record against bad teams we weren’t actually 8-8 last year we’re playing way better teams this year” so why can’t we beat the browns the same team hue beat with a backup qb for half the game. Wait let me guess “DA has no talent on this team even though half of the roster is different but its basically all the same starters” So Hue could win with most of the same starters and backups that Al who most people will agree wasn’t the sharpest when it came to signing players lately but Allen with a “legit GM” can’t beat the browns. Come on you guys can’t really believe DA is the answer
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
animated? what does he do? jiggle his titts?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Rivers = Palmer
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Haha. Idiots in here still trying to excuse the coaches and blame it all on the players.
Players suck. Bush league. No standouts. If you can’t see that, you don’t watch football.
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A lot of the same players as last year. 8-8. If you can’t see that, you don’t watch football.
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Same ones that tanked the season. So who’s fault was it? The coaches or players?
I’m not standing up for the current staff, I’ve already said that. But I can judge football players when I see them. We only have a couple.
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Same ones that beat the Broncos, at Denver, by 3. Same ones that beat the Jets by 10. Same ones that beat the Texans, at Houston, by 5. Same ones that beat the Clowns by 7. Same ones that beat San Diego, at San Diego, by 10. Same ones that beat Minnesota, at Minnesota, by 6. Same ones that beat the Bears, at Chicago, by 5.
Pick yourself back up, then try again.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
they are not playing for titts…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
How did the Raiders lose to the Cleveland Browns at home today?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
this team is f’ing pathetic in every aspect of the game: offense, defense, special teams, players, & coaches. f’ing pathetic.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Mark, you know you can convince Gruden to come back. And he will convince Hue Jackson to come be our OC. And since Rex Ryan is going to get fired bring him in to be our DC. Get it done son.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
FUC THIS TEAM, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Haha. Idiots in here still trying to excuse the coaches and blame it all on the players.
Players suck. Bush league. No standouts. If you can’t see that, you don’t watch football.
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A lot of the same players as last year. 8-8. If you can’t see that, you don’t watch football.
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Same ones that tanked the season. So who’s fault was it? The coaches or players?
I’m not standing up for the current staff, I’ve already said that. But I can judge football players when I see them. We only have a couple.
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Same ones that beat the Broncos, at Denver, by 3. Same ones that beat the Jets by 10. Same ones that beat the Texans, at Houston, by 5. Same ones that beat the Clowns by 7. Same ones that beat San Diego, at San Diego, by 10. Same ones that beat Minnesota, at Minnesota, by 6. Same ones that beat the Bears, at Chicago, by 5.
Pick yourself back up, then try again.
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The same ones that tanked the season in the worst way and missed the playoffs.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
If RM and DA can’t see how bad GK is then they ALL NEED TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
DA reaching desperatebenching everyone that guy this guy still svcks…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Have hard time if guys are happy or sad in here? I know some people are totally ecstatic, and one of them is on his way to this blog on the count of 10..1….2…3…4….5…6…..
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Bobby Bushay Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
DA is over his head. Ascent was too quick. We need a coach with intensity on the sideline during the games. His demeanor does not inspire. I didn’t think our D could be worse than last year… it is. This is what he should be ultimately judged upon. I don’t want him back next year. If he chose his assistant coaches, it was pitiful choices. Unexcusable in this age of NFL football. I didn’t expect a winner, but not this stinkfest.
I support Palmer, but he lost it with the INT. After Denver game, Pryor should start. They NEED to see what they have and what they may need to get next year.
Bronco game will be ugly.
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These coaches are a joke. These players don’t care. They both are to blame for this garbage. We are going to get WAXED by the Broncos. DA shows little to no passion or intensity. His press conferences are about as entertaining and inspiring as watching paint dry. I’m not saying you have to be “rah rah” like Rex Ryan, but listening to him is painfully boring and flat. Can’t imagine the players get much more.
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This is how the team responds when the owner says that he isnt happy with the coaching.
Its pretty obvious that none of these guys are buying what DA is selling. The defense looked completely lost and out of place today. This was an even matchup on paper, but we had no game plan, and let CLE dictate the pace of the entire game. Even when it was close, the game never really felt in question.
Palmer throws 54 passes? Why? Is there a rule against running in the 4th quarter? I dont understand the way this team plays football. They have no identity and are just learning as they go along.
Time to bring in some big boy coaches that know what they want to do with a roster. DA and his whole staff are still in preseason mode.
9 losses in 12 games speaks for itself.
Giving up 500 yards to the Browns speaks for itself.
5 straight losses speak for themselves.
Teams averaging over 40 points against us in the previous 4 losses speaks for itself.
How much more time do these guys need?
Its a wrap for DA.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Damn…. the Browns? I’m just rooting for the 2 and 3 loss teams to catch some wins. Come on, bottom dwellers, we want a better draft pick.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Cleveland Browns gain almost 500 yards against us, in our backyard. With Brandon Weeden at QB.
This team stinks. No matter who you choose to blame. ======================================== ITS PALMERS FAULT!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
All you Palmer guys always want to bring up his stats after the game and say he’s not the problem but when you throw a pick in the red zone down 3 points and then collect 100 yards and a TD when the game is basically over
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
How did the Raiders lose to the Cleveland Browns at home today?
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The same way they have been.
Missed opportunities, d-lineman commintting presnap penalties on 3rd down, DHB and Moore making mistakes by the bundle, CB’s dropping INTs, etc etc etc.
Same old story.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I Know M1st1c is just getting warmed up to write his Pulitzer award winning post
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
How did the Raiders lose to the Cleveland Browns at home today?
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you and DA belong together, you have the same ideas.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
“Hue Jackson padded his record against bad teams we weren’t actually 8-8 last year we’re playing way better teams this year” so why can’t we beat the browns the same team hue beat with a backup qb for half the game. Wait let me guess “DA has no talent on this team even though half of the roster is different but its basically all the same starters” So Hue could win with most of the same starters and backups that Al who most people will agree wasn’t the sharpest when it came to signing players lately but Allen with a “legit GM” can’t beat the browns. Come on you guys can’t really believe DA is the answer
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There it is right there.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
D enver A gent
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Get he gasoline and the Boue Tip matches and burn down he building…
Nothing worth saving in this whole Organization.
Garbage top to bottom.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Anyone figure out that a majority of this roster has quit weeks ago?
Funny how some of you guys see one or two guys giving effort, and think the whole team follows with the same effort.
I said after Tampa that they would not win another game and its sad but very true.
DA will be fired if he does not win another game. That is a fact….
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
All you Palmer guys always want to bring up his stats after the game and say he’s not the problem but when you throw a pick in the red zone down 3 points and then collect 100 yards and a TD when the game is basically over
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HE was a beast, get over it
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Brady threw an int-he won.Manning threw an int -he won.Rodgers threw an int-he won.Our problem is the team isn’t good enough to overcome any ints.Tough lose but we battled and none of the morons on here can say the team has quit if they watched todays game.Thats all i have to say.Now you can continue your hatefest and blame game.I realize just acknowledging the other team is better is unacceptable on here.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Here is the thing….if Davis and McK get rid of DA, then they better replace him with a REAL experienced head coach who will command respect and be a leader of men and will excite the fan base again like Jon Gruden or Jack Del Rio.
Otherwise what the hell would be the point in hiring a another inexperienced rookie head coach to replace the rookie in DA??
Oh yeah and Hue Jackson haters suck….just like this team sucks!! LOL
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
mcxcuse20…what is it this week?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The same ones that tanked the season in the worst way and missed the playoffs.
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How many games will they be missing the playoffs by this year?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
JDBooty,
Youre dead wrong if you think our team didnt try today.
DA isnt going anywhere. The players gave their all. Its just that their “all” is not much at all.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
20-25K show up to watch this pathetic Denise Allen lead squad of losers. It looked like a tuesday night A’s vs Indians game, or Lew Wolf appreciation day crowd.
Palmer is a turnover machine in crutch time. The guy’s like a shiny new benz with the guts ripped out.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
How did the Raiders lose to the Cleveland Browns at home today?
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They mailed it in weeks ago. No surprise.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
One word, since week 1:
KNAPP
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Here is the thing….if Davis and McK get rid of DA, then they better replace him with a REAL experienced head coach who will command respect and be a leader of men and will excite the fan base again like Jon Gruden or Jack Del Rio.
Otherwise what the hell would be the point in hiring a another inexperienced rookie head coach to replace the rookie in DA??
Oh yeah and Hue Jackson haters suck….just like this team sucks!! LOL
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Let’s go Eagles!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
How did the Raiders lose to the Cleveland Browns at home today?
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This is the only question that matters right now.
If there ever was a game that a team needed to win, at home, at a desperate time with an unhappy owner and fanbase, against an evenly matched opponent, this was it. This is a game the Oakland Raiders were supposed to win.
What the f#ck happened?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Denise Allen and his ole boy netwok assistants have killed the Raider Nation and its beloved team. If Reggie Mc keeps those clowns around he too is part of the problem.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
How did the Raiders lose to the Cleveland Browns at home today?
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The Browns are a better team. They have better players on defense.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Brady threw an int-he won.Manning threw an int -he won.Rodgers threw an int-he won.Our problem is the team isn’t good enough to overcome any ints.Tough lose but we battled and none of the morons on here can say the team has quit if they watched todays game.Thats all i have to say.Now you can continue your hatefest and blame game.I realize just acknowledging the other team is better is unacceptable on here.
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That about sums it up.
Im out of here. Ive had enough. I dont mind debating, but Im done talking about this team.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
you guys just don’t get it , this season was the great mastermind plan of Reg and DA to acquire the picks to draft future HOF D Moore DE Texas A&M and see which guys show up and which guys give up when things aren’t on line
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
why am i always right ? i said ” dont fire hue” but people here were attacking me .. i said u guys would want dennis allen fired by week 5 .. i was right again
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Denver score Thursday? 55-3 We are the worst team in the NFL.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
It’s time for DA to realize he IS NOT a head coach material in pro football and step away ASASP and take Knapp and Tarver with him
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
the Raiders just announced due to fan appreciation day they will start TP6 the last home game
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I am so sick of all these BS excuses from the Reggie and DA about how it’s the players. Just like DA himself has said: at this level, all of these guys are super talented athletes and expected to perform, whether they’re starters or backups. I’m not saying we have an all star roster, but at some point coaches need to man up and get these guys on the same page and motivated to play. If your team is this bad in every aspect of the game, you can’t put that all on the players. At some point the coaches need to take responsibility for this pile of crap product they are putting out there every sunday.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
This is how the team responds when the owner says that he isnt happy with the coaching.
Its pretty obvious that none of these guys are buying what DA is selling. The defense looked completely lost and out of place today. This was an even matchup on paper, but we had no game plan, and let CLE dictate the pace of the entire game. Even when it was close, the game never really felt in question.
Palmer throws 54 passes? Why? Is there a rule against running in the 4th quarter? I dont understand the way this team plays football. They have no identity and are just learning as they go along.
Time to bring in some big boy coaches that know what they want to do with a roster. DA and his whole staff are still in preseason mode.
9 losses in 12 games speaks for itself.
Giving up 500 yards to the Browns speaks for itself.
5 straight losses speak for themselves.
Teams averaging over 40 points against us in the previous 4 losses speaks for itself.
How much more time do these guys need?
Its a wrap for DA.
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Co-signed.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Here is the thing….if Davis and McK get rid of DA, then they better replace him with a REAL experienced head coach who will command respect and be a leader of men and will excite the fan base again like Jon Gruden or Jack Del Rio.
Otherwise what the hell would be the point in hiring a another inexperienced rookie head coach to replace the rookie in DA??
Oh yeah and Hue Jackson haters suck….just like this team sucks!! LOL
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Yep, they need someone with gravitas, who can lead men in the NFL.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
our great fanbase ,,, the RAIDER NATION
the only fan nation has been duped… its all a conspiracy.. the broncos were set up to get to the super bowl… dang iluminati.. d.a. in on it
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Hard to blame DA for the loss, Palmer could be blamed? for sure, receivers to blame ? sure, Play calling to be blamed ? sure, D to blame ? save for houston ? sure, what does DA have to do with all this , he was dealt a bad hand especially with no pass rushers on the line
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Pat Shurmur is a better head football coach than Dennis Allen.
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Why even suit up players?
Just have the coaches play XBox against each other.
The players have nothing to do with it according to y’all.
Hell, I dont know why you watch the game. The stat line is all you care about. You probably just watch the game from your cell phone.
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I don’t think anyone is absolving the players or looking forward to seeing the same 53 out there next year, whether DA and company stay or go.
When the coaching staff is the only major change from 16-16 when we showed promise to 3-9 and looking like something between the Shell and Kiffin eras, the coaches are going to take a lot of heat.
It sounds like you take the opposite approach though and think the coaches don’t add or subtract anything from a team’s performance.
So why not just put a hat and sunglasses on a broomstick and trot that out there as the Raiders head coach and save a few mil in salary?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Theselayers were “good enough” to win 3 of the first 7 and now we have “no talent”…
Lots of excuses from the water carriers.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The same ones that tanked the season in the worst way and missed the playoffs.
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How many games will they be missing the playoffs by this year?
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You never answered my question. Who’s fault was it for last years debacle and meltdown?
The coaches or players?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
you guys just don’t get it , this season was the great mastermind plan of Reg and DA to acquire the picks to draft future HOF D Moore DE Texas A&M and see which guys show up and which guys give up when things aren’t on line
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so smart to not waive seymour and then give hima new contract, franchise branch and then give him a long contract..yep he’s smart
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Ok I’m going to bust open the Kool-Aid tank and see who else want to drink it, We’re going to upset Broncos next week
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
like seriously we do need 2 stop bringing up hue jackson tho…. hes not coming back.. let go forward but its silly after 8-8 that fans on here think we just supposed to win super bowl last season and so blame hue.. idiots.. we have sucked for 10 YEARS! hue finally gets us goin in right direction and becus hes a jerk leyts fire him ? dumb
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Problem is Palmer has to play a PERFECT game for us to win.
We SHOULD be good enough to overcome an int after a long drive that leaves them DEEP in their own territory…PERIOD..EXCLAMATION POINT!
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bingo!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I would still fire Hue Jackson.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
well, one pick is one pick and doesn’t matter if it cam in the 1st quarter or the last.
i’d say running 17 times and throwing 54 times might be a problem.
maybe his arm gets a little tired? whaddya think?
and maybe the defense drops 50 guys into coverage cuz they know it’s coming?
and as for game management, isn’t palmer listening to the coaches tell him what to do on the headset?
not palmer.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DA is the worse coach in Raiders history
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
The only thing Reggie values more than players from the GB practice squad is excuses. 2012 the year of the Excuse. 2013 there are none
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Well, 3-10 is pretty much guaranteed.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I guess we have to forgive the defense for folding cuz they felt bad…and were a little depressed after that Palmer pick.
I understand.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Leave Hue with the Bengals, he did suck as coach he just didn’t suck as bad as DA and KNAPP,,,,, HUE WILL NEVER BE HIRED AGAIN, ONLY THE RAIDERS WOULD HIRE THAT JACKASS
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
i thought raider fans were smart but come on now.. we win 8 games and all of a sudden yall get arrogant ? oooh he went 1-4 down the strecth !!! so!!!!!!!!! we suck and he was making us better dufuses
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Palmer was beast, but why were they throwing so much, Palmer need to just freaking call runs plays here and there, he need to limit his throwing attempts, it was obvious the arm was dead on that throw
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
The problem with keeping DA is there is no optimism. He can’t continue in this direction. The scheme and philosophy has been wrong from the start. If DA wants to save is butt he should at least fire Knapp ASAP. If he does nothing he should be FIRED ASAP.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
This is how the team responds when the owner says that he isnt happy with the coaching.
Its pretty obvious that none of these guys are buying what DA is selling. The defense looked completely lost and out of place today. This was an even matchup on paper, but we had no game plan, and let CLE dictate the pace of the entire game. Even when it was close, the game never really felt in question.
Palmer throws 54 passes? Why? Is there a rule against running in the 4th quarter? I dont understand the way this team plays football. They have no identity and are just learning as they go along.
Time to bring in some big boy coaches that know what they want to do with a roster. DA and his whole staff are still in preseason mode.
9 losses in 12 games speaks for itself.
Giving up 500 yards to the Browns speaks for itself.
5 straight losses speak for themselves.
Teams averaging over 40 points against us in the previous 4 losses speaks for itself.
How much more time do these guys need?
Its a wrap for DA.
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Co-signed.
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Add me to that list
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Brady threw an int-he won.Manning threw an int -he won.Rodgers threw an int-he won.Our problem is the team isn’t good enough to overcome any ints.Tough lose but we battled and none of the morons on here can say the team has quit if they watched todays game.Thats all i have to say.Now you can continue your hatefest and blame game.I realize just acknowledging the other team is better is unacceptable on here.
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Lefty12, Tell me why do you think we are losing these games IYO man?
I don’t agreee with a lot of viewpoints
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I do love the fact DA is ripping Palmer.He does deserve it.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
This is the most incompetent offensive team I’ve ever seen in Silver & Black.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Bringing up Hue is a waste of time. i mean he’ll probably get the Cal job, within 9 months force his way to run the entire University, from there he’ll become the governor of california, and then he ‘ll be in charge of the oval office with his “build a bully ” slogan
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
The NFL is an Entertainment Business, and getting fans in the seats is a primary goal of each franchise…any rookie HC who oversees a 3-13 team, no matter what the perception of the talent level is, will NOT sell seats no matter what spin the Marketing Dept. and the media put on it…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I do love the fact DA is ripping Palmer.He does deserve it.
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where is this happening?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
work keep grinding..lol same damnm shiyt…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Palmer officially sucks
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Bartell and Mitchel need to go.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
This is the most incompetent offensive team I’ve ever seen in Silver & Black.
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offense? u blame the offense?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Eldiabs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Leave Hue with the Bengals, he did suck as coach he just didn’t suck as bad as DA and KNAPP,,,,, HUE WILL NEVER BE HIRED AGAIN, ONLY THE RAIDERS WOULD HIRE THAT JACKASS
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I think i speak for most Raider fans in saying we would take Hue over DA and his nonsense any day.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Houston was beast today, should put up 10 points and move inside he would look good next to Damontre Moore
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Got Tackling ?……… Nope…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
PATHETIC GARBAGE! THANK GOD IT’S BLACKED OUT. THEY’RE THE WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
On a positive note, I see 2 R Mac players that may be a future:
80 Streater, he can play
32 Stewart, really like his effort and ability, he should get a good look and be considered as a starter.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
so any way the illunati member roger goodell and his cohorts want denver in the superbowl and sent us that soft wimp dennis allen.. just terrible management to hire him .. if we dont get rid of tommy kelly and dmac and rich seymour then i just give up
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The Browns QB was under duress all game and threw 2 ints. yet he won why? We throw one late one and lose why?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
This is the most incompetent offensive team I’ve ever seen in Silver & Black.
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I guess you weren’t watching games back in 2006. Was your TV broken?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m not gonna get on the “we shouldn’t have fired Hue” kick but if the criticism is he was too “boisterous and confident” than isn’t that against what the Raiders ‘mistique’ always was in the first place?
Replay “Autumn Wind” ..it’s in there somewhere.
As far as getting his nails done…who cares really?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
we put up 429 yards and gave up 475, and kell blames the offense.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
10 pounds
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The Browns eventually finished off a 94-yard, 14-play drive with a 3-yard run by Trent Richardson …………………
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Shades of last year. If we follow suit, Thursday we should give up a 95-98 yard drive in the 4th quarter. If the D coulda held there, we’re still in it. Our D is worse than last year. And that is no small feat. You really got to try to be that bad. SMH
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
everybodys fault except the coaches huh alllen?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Chargers choke again… I love it!
Denver has 6 game lead (secured division today)over the Raiders… that is regression, Mark – and it’s only Dec. 2nd.
I am from Ohio – I was at the ATL game. They looked competitive, well studied, etc. It’s the only complete game they pitched – even in a loss. The fans deserve WAY better effort, a coach that has a pulse, and assistants who have experience in turning things around.
DA a defensive guru… a joke so far.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The Browns QB was under duress all game and threw 2 ints. yet he won why? We throw one late one and lose why?
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keep going buddy! i know u can do this!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
JT Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
On a positive note, I see 2 R Mac players that may be a future:
80 Streater, he can play
32 Stewart, really like his effort and ability, he should get a good look and be considered as a starter.
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this is a joke right? one or two good plays dont make you a star..smh
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
The reason we are losing is the teams we are playing are better than we are.Plus our OC isn’t any good.We drop passes.We get teams in 3rd and long and give up big plays.Unlike most of you and especially you Priest,I put the blame on the players not making plays when they are there to be made.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The same ones that tanked the season in the worst way and missed the playoffs.
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How many games will they be missing the playoffs by this year?
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You never answered my question. Who’s fault was it for last years debacle and meltdown?
The coaches or players?
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Debacle? Meltdown? Might wanna double check your wording next time. A team that has been ineptly awful for almost a decade, sans the previous year. A team who lost its starting QB and near league-leading rusher halfway through the season. A team that lost its #1 CB in the offseason, and had a very suspect defense. A team that hired a defensive coordinator that was a well-known joke. A team that had a chance to get in the playoffs in their last game for the first time in a long, long time.
Some of you fans either have really short memories, or somehow have a silver spoon lodged in your mouth. Somewhere you got the idea that a team with those qualifications was expected to make the playoffs. Or even come remotely close. If you guys need help analyzing the past 10 years, I’ll be glad to slowly walk through it with you, step by step.
Not sure why this is such a difficult concept to understand.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Anytime an offense become one sided and predictable, you limit your ability to score…54 passes? That is a freakin EmbarASSment.
Not running the ball cause you’re down by 10 with a half to play, is a white flag that you cannot run the ball…so whose fault is it really?
Palmer threw the pick, but abandoning the run is the real culprit.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The Browns QB was under duress all game and threw 2 ints. yet he won why? We throw one late one and lose why?
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There ya go Priest.
I thought we were losing yo.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
where are u guys seeing/hearing the DA postgame?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
DA was beast on the sidelines get over it
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Stewart and Reece both averaged 5.1 YPC. Why the f*ck did Knapp abandon the running game?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I guess they are now simply playing for the first pick in the draft
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Lol raider riff is finna blow a gasket because his honey DA aint show up to the dance.lol why pay coaches if they have no effect on the outcome of games? Face it riff ya boy DA is a fraud his philosophy sucks and hes uninspiring as a HC. He doesn’t inspire the fans and from the looks of the way they play it seems like he doesn’t inspire his players either. He’s a joke joke joke, and we cant get rid of the jester soon enough.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
i wonder what palmers QB rating is in the 1st quarter. 50-60?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
nycraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
JT Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
On a positive note, I see 2 R Mac players that may be a future:
80 Streater, he can play
32 Stewart, really like his effort and ability, he should get a good look and be considered as a starter.
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this is a joke right? one or two good plays dont make you a star..smh
Yep, I like Stewart too…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m not gonna get on the “we shouldn’t have fired Hue” kick but if the criticism is he was too “boisterous and confident” than isn’t that against what the Raiders ‘mistique’ always was in the first place?
Replay “Autumn Wind” ..it’s in there somewhere.
As far as getting his nails done…who cares really?
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Good point
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Just close your eyes and point and you’ll find a weak spot on the team…… Aside from a very few players….
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
JT Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
On a positive note, I see 2 R Mac players that may be a future:
80 Streater, he can play
32 Stewart, really like his effort and ability, he should get a good look and be considered as a starter.
stupid krapp like thay has made losers of this team…
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Dennis Allen has all the personality of a pee wee soccer coach.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
the reason we are losing is because we are cursed.. and dmac is a complete whore … and seymour is done.. and the refs hate us … and huff is soft and etc etc
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
This is the most incompetent offensive team I’ve ever seen in Silver & Black.
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I guess you weren’t watching games back in 2006. Was your TV broken?
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I guess your TV was brooooken. You lame little Btch.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Mark davis should be proud of himself he got upset and the raiders didnt respond, just like his dad
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
everybodys fault except the coaches huh alllen?
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DA never ever says he didn’t do a good job it’s always the players could do this couldn’t do that?
DA is an excuse maker a non-leader.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Should have never abandoned the run, I don’t know why they do that, the run game was looking good, but we should always run a running play after 3 passing plays to give Palmer some rest
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
no offensive balance even though the backs were doing great in the limited run game.
Knapp is and has always been an ole boy network nitwit, hired by other nitwits from the same club.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Brady threw an int-he won.Manning threw an int -he won.Rodgers threw an int-he won.Our problem is the team isn’t good enough to overcome any ints.Tough lose but we battled and none of the morons on here can say the team has quit if they watched todays game.Thats all i have to say.Now you can continue your hatefest and blame game.I realize just acknowledging the other team is better is unacceptable on here.
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Right on the money indeed. All QBs throw picks. Hell, Drew Brees threw 5 last week. Matt Ryan threw 3 against our horrible D. The thing is, those guys have a defense that can help out when they make mistakes. CP3 thorws a pick and our D lets the frickin browns march down the field, walk into the endzone untouched, and eat up a ton of clock while theyre at this. All the idiots in here want to blame CP3 for everything, but in case you have noticed, this is a team sport, and you need to be good in all 3 phases. CP3 can’t win the game all by himself. Maybe if we had a run game, or a D that could stop even a high school team, CP3 wouldnt need to force balls into bad coverage because he knows that’s the only way we’re going to move the ball. You are seriously ignorant if you blame the QB for everything in a team sport like this.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
can we draft johnny manziel already ? and teo and that clowney d end outta south carolina… 3 studs
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
The good News:
We’re only one behind Jacksonville and Kansas City for the FIRST PICK IN THE DRAFT!!!
AND
We get another shot at (losing to) Kansas wk 15 AND Carolina wk 16!
All we need is the Jaguars to win two more games and
IT IS CLINCHED!!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Never ever abandon the run unless you have good receivers running routes, should always call a running play here and there to give ur arm some rest,
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
DA is in full Cover Your Azz mode…
Can’t lay any blame on HIS staff,54 passes to 17 runs is on the OC.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Does DA ever see Jano kick in practice or know that he only misses 60+ yd fgs. this is 2 games DA has cost us the chance to win by keeping Jano on the bench. Is he upset bc Jano t#ts are almost as big as his?
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
where are u guys seeing/hearing the DA postgame?
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You don’t know Dr know it all?
I’m not tellin.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
JT Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
On a positive note, I see 2 R Mac players that may be a future:
80 Streater, he can play
32 Stewart, really like his effort and ability, he should get a good look and be considered as a starter.
stupid krapp like thay has made losers of this team…
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Nah, dont think so.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Good leaders never blame the troop their responsible to motivate and manage. The buck stop and starts at the top with great leaders.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
#1 pick could be good, what’s the point of winning these games in meaningless season, we could really mess up if we win games now and lose out on a playmaker cuz some team ahead of us wanted that guy bad
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
if we get the 1st pick we just gonna draft sum left tackle outta clmson thats gonna get hurt and play well sometimes then get moved to right guard…. oh god why did i get this raider tatoo
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
DA is blaming everybody but himself. Get this FOOL out of here.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Sterile, homogenized and vanilla. That is the goal of this staff. Their pipe dream is so squeaky clean it’s breathtaking.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
The reason we are losing is the teams we are playing are better than we are.Plus our OC isn’t any good.We drop passes.We get teams in 3rd and long and give up big plays.Unlike most of you and especially you Priest,I put the blame on the players not making plays when they are there to be made.
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Lefty12, OK man it’s my bad!! coaches doing a great job……thanks!
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
theres absolutely no hope for our team the next 3 seasons ..
none… at least dexter bout to come on,… and the walking dead … then i can jack off to isis taylor and go to sleep
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
DA was super beast today, he’s going to lead us to the glory land next year, get over it
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
we just lost to the browns at home..broncos will be laughing on the sideline in the 2nd quarter up 28-0
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
For good Raider postgame log onto 95.7 the game.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I Knapps play calling was beyond horrible……17 running plays?… And the run was working….
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
1 fire Knapp
2 Trade #20 for draft picks, maybe a 2nd if we are lucky.
3 draft defense all the way.
A good OC should make this offense work. Its the defense that needs a makeover.
4 Start #6 these final games.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reece disappeared for long stretches, what happened to the guy with a 100 plus yards 3 weeks ago…we abandon the run week after week and keep on losing.
Lamar saying the team comes out witout the proper intensity,
Whose that on?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
The reason we are losing is the teams we are playing are better than we are.Plus our OC isn’t any good.We drop passes.We get teams in 3rd and long and give up big plays.Unlike most of you and especially you Priest,I put the blame on the players not making plays when they are there to be made.
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Lefty12, OK man it’s my bad!! coaches doing a great job……thanks!
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nobody has said the staff was doing well. u keep saying it but nobody said it. ur a liar.
and lemme gauge ur football acumen real quick. u think mcclain is good right?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I guess my pointing out Palmer’s late game ints’ doesn’t count. My blaming that we have no edge rusher doesn’t count. That we have bad DB’s doesn’t count that we have bad Oline doesn’t count bad route running doesn’t count…………it only counts if I say it the way you want me to say it.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Brady threw an int-he won.Manning threw an int -he won.Rodgers threw an int-he won.Our problem is the team isn’t good enough to overcome any ints.Tough lose but we battled and none of the morons on here can say the team has quit if they watched todays game.Thats all i have to say.Now you can continue your hatefest and blame game.I realize just acknowledging the other team is better is unacceptable on here.
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There are folks that will point to the INT and say that Carson lost the game for the Raiders on that one play.
Trouble is, there were at least ten critical plays on offense alone where Palmer did his job just fine and somebody else gacked it up. Those mistakes cost the team first downs and points.
I’m not even counting the defensive lapses here.
At this point, Palmer has to be nearly perfect for us to win. He isn’t, but he’s not the problem.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
stop calling for t pryor he not gonna do jack sheeeeeeeeeet!!!! and a 2nd rounder for dmac ? lol .. are u serious ? ahahahhahahahah
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
157.. They’re already laughing… It’s always happy time on the other sideline…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Would have beaten the Browns had we kept running, it was unstoppable , oh well at least we know ZBS could work even with okay RB’s as long as you got good coaches and good play callers
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The same ones that tanked the season in the worst way and missed the playoffs.
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How many games will they be missing the playoffs by this year?
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You never answered my question. Who’s fault was it for last years debacle and meltdown?
The coaches or players?
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Debacle? Meltdown? Might wanna double check your wording next time. A team that has been ineptly awful for almost a decade, sans the previous year. A team who lost its starting QB and near league-leading rusher halfway through the season. A team that lost its #1 CB in the offseason, and had a very suspect defense. A team that hired a defensive coordinator that was a well-known joke. A team that had a chance to get in the playoffs in their last game for the first time in a long, long time.
Some of you fans either have really short memories, or somehow have a silver spoon lodged in your mouth. Somewhere you got the idea that a team with those qualifications was expected to make the playoffs. Or even come remotely close. If you guys need help analyzing the past 10 years, I’ll be glad to slowly walk through it with you, step by step.
Not sure why this is such a difficult concept to understand.
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Your making excuses.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
but hey we are a “modern” organization…right?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
It’s not hard to spot Al boot lockers around this place.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Sterile, homogenized and vanilla. That is the goal of this staff. Their pipe dream is so squeaky clean it’s breathtaking.
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Lol……………..yeah.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Boot lickers, damn phone.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
yeah mctrollit worked…oh wait we lost…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
DA throwing the players under the bus = for sure, no doubt beat down humiliation style butt cracking loss vs Denver.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Dennis Allen … Leave of Absence ?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
JT Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
1 fire Knapp
2 Trade #20 for draft picks, maybe a 2nd if we are lucky.
3 draft defense all the way.
A good OC should make this offense work. Its the defense that needs a makeover.
4 Start #6 these final games.
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“It’s the defense that needs a makeover.”
Yeah DA is supposed to be a defense guy. That makeover should include DA being fired.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
DA takes leave of absence……………..?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reece disappeared for long stretches, what happened to the guy with a 100 plus yards 3 weeks ago…we abandon the run week after week and keep on losing.
Lamar saying the team comes out witout the proper intensity,
Whose that on?
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These guys wouldn’t know how to use talent if you gave them a road map to do so.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
eff ya! DA taking a leave of absence!!! he is on his way out!!! best news ive heard all year!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
His father is sick!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
***breaking news*** ….DA just hired by women’s roller derby team! He can coach teeties!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RaidO Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
DA is blaming everybody but himself. Get this FOOL out of here.
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Haven’t heard his comments, but that to me is a sign of desperation at this point.
If you’re an ugly 3-9 taking over for a team that was a competitive 8-8 for two seasons and start pointing fingers, I think you’re done.
If the score had been more lopsided, I think DA could be gone tonight. They’ll probably let him play out the string though. I think he’s gotta get at least two more wins to have any shot of keeping this job.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Father’s ill.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Paging Star Lotulelei… Paging Star Lotulelei…
Please get your Raider hate ready for April
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
There are tons of issues on this team…everywhere. I hope their plan is a) good and b) they stick to it because if they don’t then this year is going to be worse than it is.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
we should just let taiwain jones run the ball.. who cares if he fumbles ? we cant win anyway… and we should never blitz again this season.. never works .
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Didn’t go to the game. Didn’t listen on the radio. Didnt waste my Sunday on garbage. Checked in for the post game show and that’s about enough. K Longworth is looking FANTASTIC!!!! WOW
Go Warriors!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
While people can blame this and that can you deny once again we had to play catch-up.We were down 10-0.It would be nice to get a lead once in a while.It would be nice if for once we made got a turnover early in the game to help the offense.It would be nice if the #*^king defense could hold someone for once early in games.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
they may win if DA isnt around…oh wait krapp!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
DA was super beast today, he’s going to lead us to the glory land next year, get over it
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DA was a super beast. Luv it. lol
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
KK,
Reggies record as GM is looking pretty solid, no ?
3-13
Just Win Baby!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Tackling has been horrible all year….years…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
eff ya! DA taking a leave of absence!!! he is on his way out!!! best news ive heard all year!
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What?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
OK enough lamenting about the loss,
Here are some positives we could take outta this game:
1. Streeter looks like he could ascend to #2 role next year, now we will just need to find a #1 Receiver
2. Run game looks good now, and could live with out a star running back
3. Houston is a beast, would look good rushing from DT spot
4. our Draft position improved, meaningless win would have only messed up the draft spot and we would have missed out on a future HOF Damontre Moore DE, and would have regretted it next year with same type of pass rush
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Hue gets laughed at for barely winning bye the hue haters, but DA gets praised for barely losing.lol well when you’re used to getting blew out every game barely losing is an accomplishment i guess. Hehehe
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
dorian gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
stop calling for t pryor he not gonna do jack sheeeeeeeeeet!!!! and a 2nd rounder for dmac ? lol .. are u serious ? ahahahhahahahah
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Heres my answer for you: Nobody is going to give ya 1st round pick for a running back that plays half a season each season.
So should the raiders keep Dmac? please shine your genious answer on us.
Right, you dont have one.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
but hey we are a “modern” organization…right?
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yeah at least we are modernized org.now. Look at our new computers and carpet. We can carry around Ipods and Ipads look smooth and use skype!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
You guys serious about this DA stuff? Leave of absence?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Don’t lower yourself to the KK’s. Seymour Biush’s, and MR’s of the world.
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Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Thoughts for DA’s Dad, but really,
He could just stay gone and let Reg start looking for a replacement.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Coach,hope things work out all right with your father.Family is important.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
The constants today are that the excuses just keep coming from Junior. And Carcux lots of hollow stats, not making plays when it counts, another pick another loss, and counting.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
carson palmer may be the best qb we ever had.. thats sad to say… but us and the lions and the bears now all have the best qbs in our franchise history… shame our defense wont help
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
Oh yeah and Hue Jackson haters suck….just like this team sucks!! LOL
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Yep, they need someone with gravitas, who can lead men in the NFL.
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That leader of men is position coaching DBs in Cincy now. Raiders aren’t the only team that’s sour on him. He sucks. Get over it.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I’m diehard… But hoping somebody dies…. ?… Come on Man… Little harsh
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Should have never abandoned the run, I don’t know why they do that, the run game was looking good, but we should always run a running play after 3 passing plays to give Palmer some rest
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5.1 YPC
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
If DA is taking a Leave of absence he should not come back.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
mctroll no positives…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Even third string Greg Mclceroy won today for the jets. How about palmer??
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died ================================================= AND 2 LESS OBONGO VOTERS IN KC!!!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
jt ,, the patriots will take dmac for a 4th rounder ,, and hes gonna go there and never get hurt again…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died
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I can’t say anything in response to this despicable comment.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Gather some facts before you stick your foot in your mouth.
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RaidO Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
If DA is taking a Leave of absence he should not come back.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Sorry.
The “game 95.7″ is talking Jets right now.
I guess their postgame stuff is later.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
DA is gonna be gone for two days.. will be back WED
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
what we really need to be doing is tryna get ryan mallet from the pats.. and if any of u bring up that bum vick again im gonna find u and choke u
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Keep Dmac trade palmer. When dmac plays he helps us when palmer plays he hurts us, get dmac a real coach and watch him become mvp. Trade down for more picks as well.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died
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No.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Some people don’t get it. Even if the current HC is replaced, this roster is getting scrapped. Bank on it.
You won’t even recognize this team next year. What are you going to do then.
Just giving you a heads up, because that is what’s going to happen.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
I wonder if firing Hue was really Reggie’s call, or Mark’s call. If you go by what Mark said to Monte Poole in his column the other day and what Mark and Reggie said in the press conference, it was Reggie’s decision. If you go by Cork and some of the other beat reporters, it was Mark’s decision.
If it was Reggie’s decision and he sold Mark on it, anyone think Mark would hit the reset button and bring Hue back next year, basically just feeling that he’s correcting something he was talked into? I realize it’s far-fetched, but actually logical. Crazier things have happened.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I guess my pointing out Palmer’s late game ints’ doesn’t count. My blaming that we have no edge rusher doesn’t count. That we have bad DB’s doesn’t count that we have bad Oline doesn’t count bad route running doesn’t count…………it only counts if I say it the way you want me to say it.
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i’m proud of u priest. u see the LACK OF TALENT. oh but wait. u think they (and mcclain) are actually good but it’s the coaches not coaching right?
perhaps it’s all of it!
and a team is supposed to be able to have one pick and still win easily. they’re supposed to SCORE MORE EARLY!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The O takes a while to get going, need to fix that, D got no pass rushers, so we’re effed on that side
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
but hey we are a “modern” organization…right?
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yeah at least we are modernized org.now. Look at our new computers and carpet. We can carry around Ipods and Ipads look smooth and use Skype!!
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LMAO!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
DA is gonna be gone for two days.. will be back WED
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He should stay away to avoid the serious cornhole plunge the Broncos are gonna put up his rear.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
we only have a game on thursday…stay with you dad DA…the team will not miss you…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
i dont really hope his father dies.. im just still mad at raider fans that wanted al to die .. anyway,…lets start the trade dmac for ryan mallet blog
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Tesla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died ================================================= AND 2 LESS OBONGO VOTERS IN KC!!!!!
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ur sickening.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Yes, you surely speak for me. Hue Jackson over current miss for sure. Raider fans that want to see a Raiders mess like this and still can’t see that Hue was a much better coach that DA/Reggie and all his coaching staff are blind to the fact the Raiders are 3-9 and playing worst this year.
104.RaidO Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Eldiabs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Great post.
Leave Hue with the Bengals, he did suck as coach he just didn’t suck as bad as DA and KNAPP,,,,, HUE WILL NEVER BE HIRED AGAIN, ONLY THE RAIDERS WOULD HIRE THAT JACKASS
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I think i speak for most Raider fans in saying we would take Hue over DA and his nonsense any day.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I’m diehard… But hoping somebody dies…. ?… Come on Man… Little harsh
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That IS bad comment, but he’s right about people hoping Al would die and then rejoicing when he did.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
DA is gonna be gone for two days.. will be back WED
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Gezz. He should just say he is taking a few days off. A “Leave of absence” is like 2 weeks or a month.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Mark said he couldn’t go to bat for Hue because of the late season skid. If you cant read between the lines something that plain as day I feel sorry for you.
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Chris In NY Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
I wonder if firing Hue was really Reggie’s call, or Mark’s call.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Maybe Palmer to Arizona For Daryl Washington and their 3rd? we’re gonna suck anyway next year
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
I wonder if firing Hue was really Reggie’s call, or Mark’s call. If you go by what Mark said to Monte Poole in his column the other day and what Mark and Reggie said in the press conference, it was Reggie’s decision. If you go by Cork and some of the other beat reporters, it was Mark’s decision.
If it was Reggie’s decision and he sold Mark on it, anyone think Mark would hit the reset button and bring Hue back next year, basically just feeling that he’s correcting something he was talked into? I realize it’s far-fetched, but actually logical. Crazier things have happened.
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That would be awesome.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
george atkinson: “it’s mand numming”
does he actually have marbles in his mouth?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
We would be awesome next year
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
u see now people that wanted hue fired ? the fact that fans on here bring up hue every single gat damn day on this blog is evident that we wanted him and are starving for wins and sum kinda direction .
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
atkinson thinks the defense looked better today. 475 yards. and he thinks they looked better.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i hope his father dies .. is that ok to say ? since posters here said they hope al davis died
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I can’t say anything in response to this despicable comment.
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I think his point is not serious, but rather to call out the many who wanted Al Davis to die and the hypocrisy of those who would wish death on Al, but rightly be disgusted by something like this.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
This team did not even sniff he red zone during he first two quarters against a 3-8 team…pathetic offensive performance early is hard to overcome.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
atkinson thinks the defense looked better today. 475 yards. and he thinks they looked better.
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Heheheee
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
u see now people that wanted hue fired ? the fact that fans on here bring up hue every single gat damn day on this blog is evident that we wanted him and are starving for wins and sum kinda direction .
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u liked 1-4 in the last 5 games? pretty much what ur getting now. so u must be in heaven.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
No one should wish death on anyone even if there are many on here who wished it on our owner. The way Mr Davis was treated in here most should be ashamed but it is what it is. People forget it’s just sports…
DA here hoping everything goes well with your father nothings more important than family in this world.
But guys I have to say I’m petitioning for our next coach David Shaw. He tops my wish list….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
even mctroll20 cant come up with an excuse!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Dj… Yep… I remember that…. That was wrong too….wishing death on someone over football is just wrong
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
TP will play against Denver. They held out to give Den a surprise Thursday.
The end
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
if we get the number 1 pick or top 2 we could really make that alot more if we trade down.. would pick up a 2nd too.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Reggie just called a press conference, instead of watching the game , he brainstormed and figured out a couple more excuses why he failed this year. he will announce them and will also reassure us hes been working hard evaluating GB’s practice squad to be in prime position to pick apart their practice squad in 2013..
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
where’s a raider post game show online?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mister… That might be a good time to break him out…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
thanks chris for pointing out my genius.. lol … but think bout this guys,, raider fans go on kc chiefs blog and say our thoughts and prayers wit chiefs fans following suicide tragedy,, but our own owner? i hope he dies… thats tragic
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
even mctroll20 cant come up with an excuse!
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Excuse for what? The team sucks. Top to bottom.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
OK enough lamenting about the loss,
Here are some positives we could take outta this game:
1. Streeter looks like he could ascend to #2 role next year, now we will just need to find a #1 Receiver
2. Run game looks good now, and could live with out a star running back
3. Houston is a beast, would look good rushing from DT spot
4. our Draft position improved, meaningless win would have only messed up the draft spot and we would have missed out on a future HOF Damontre Moore DE, and would have regretted it next year with same type of pass rush
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1, I like Streater. Moore and Ford are small receivers. Streater has good hands, and height. Find a receiver in freen agency, not draft. Draft should be all defense.
2, I personally like what I have seen of #32 stewart, out of stanford. He has potential.
3, agree, Houston is a playmnaker.
4. Draft defense all the way, get depth.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
even mctroll20 cant come up with an excuse!
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Who’s mctroll20? why are you on his nutts so much, i guess you must be too stupid to understand that nobody wants to talk to you, no?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Thank god some of us realize that many of the sickening comments made on here aren’t made by Raider fans,because if you are you give all good fans a bad name.Some of the comments made on here make fans ashamed to admit they are Raider fans.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Mark said he couldn’t go to bat for Hue because of the late season skid. If you cant read between the lines something that plain as day I feel sorry for you.
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Chris In NY Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
I wonder if firing Hue was really Reggie’s call, or Mark’s call.
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Really? To me, that sounds like it was Reggie’s idea and the only reason Mark didn’t stick with Hue is that he thought we should’ve made the playoffs last year, not because of a postgame press conference or anything silly like that that fans have hypothesized, most of which has since been debunked.
However, the day of the announcement, Reggie and Hue’s agent said this was Mark’s decision. Steve Corkran has stated the same as well as some of the other reporters. So which is it?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:16 pm
KK,
Reggie’s record as GM is 3-13, agreed ?
All we need is a GM to replace AL isn’t that what you told us ?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Game would have been another blowout on DAs resume if Brandon Weeden didnt throw those picks. Browns controlled the entire game to the tune of 500 yards. We got our faces smashed, man to man, against the 4-8 Cleveland Browns. What does that make us? 3-9 with Peyton Manning and Denver coming to town. I can assure you that he wont make the same mistakes that Weeden made this week. We could be 3-10 by the end of this week.
Again, not a Hue supporter, but DA couldnt outcoach Tom Cable OR Hue Jackson.
Loss after loss, excuse after excuse.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Greg Knapp anyone???
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
I hope we start Pryor on Thursday just so that NFLN crew focuses on something else other than what a horrible mess we are.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Greg Knapp will run the team while DA is gone. He will be ur Head Coach for two days
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Hey,moron,in the Chiefs case the guy murdered someone.Why fell sorry for a murderer?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The Raiders have been a joke for the past decade for a reason. It’s not going to stop overnight.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
umm dr robert…. once again let me say this.. if bill belicheck goes 1-4 at the end of this season should he be fired ? i know hue aint bill but seriously .. one season? ok ok… so u telling me that hue jackson shoulda won the superbowl last season ? what u tell me , would have been acceptable for hue to keep his job ? lose in the 1st round… or maybe we should fire every single coach we get until one wins the superbowl his 1st … 1st season coaching
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Excuses?… None needed… This is just a flat out bad team…. With some bad coaching
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Greg Knapp anyone???
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Greg Knapp what?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
hahah….you Hue Jackson haters need to just MAN UP and admit that you were wrong…..BADLY!
Get over it….you were WRONG!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
mcxcuse still cant come up with his excuse…he is too busy licking reggies nvts…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Caoch Dennis Allen confirmed that CB Ron Bartell and WR Denarius Moore were benched for part of the game because of their subpar play.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Who gives a phuck about Hue.He isn’t here any longer.Focus on what is here-now-not what might have been.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
JT Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
OK enough lamenting about the loss,
Here are some positives we could take outta this game:
1. Streeter looks like he could ascend to #2 role next year, now we will just need to find a #1 Receiver
2. Run game looks good now, and could live with out a star running back
3. Houston is a beast, would look good rushing from DT spot
4. our Draft position improved, meaningless win would have only messed up the draft spot and we would have missed out on a future HOF Damontre Moore DE, and would have regretted it next year with same type of pass rush
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1, I like Streater. Moore and Ford are small receivers. Streater has good hands, and height. Find a receiver in freen agency, not draft. Draft should be all defense.
2, I personally like what I have seen of #32 stewart, out of stanford. He has potential.
3, agree, Houston is a playmnaker.
4. Draft defense all the way, get depth.
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Yep
1. Keep Palmer, get new RT and C, #1 WR and get new OC who wouldn’t abandon running game, Palmer’s total attempts should never exceed 35, it was obvious the arm was dead on the INT
2. Need beast pass rushers and beast secodary
2.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Excuses?… None needed… This is just a flat out bad team…. With some bad coaching
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and a bad gm
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
The worse thing for some of these players careers was getting rid of HUE JACKSON
REECE, DMAC, DHB, MOORE for instance
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Greg Knapp will be coaching the team in DA’s absence…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Mark said he couldn’t go to bat for Hue because of the late season skid. If you cant read between the lines something that plain as day I feel sorry for you.
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Chris In NY Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
I wonder if firing Hue was really Reggie’s call, or Mark’s call.
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Really? To me, that sounds like it was Reggie’s idea and the only reason Mark didn’t stick with Hue is that he thought we should’ve made the playoffs last year, not because of a postgame press conference or anything silly like that that fans have hypothesized, most of which has since been debunked.
However, the day of the announcement, Reggie and Hue’s agent said this was Mark’s decision. Steve Corkran has stated the same as well as some of the other reporters. So which is it?
^^^^^^^^
We know it was about politics and we know that Davis forced McK to fire Hue.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
007-grow up.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
romo says DA has lost the team…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Hue Jackson haters…ADMIT you were wrong!
The truth will set you free! LOL
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
1-4 .. 1- 4 …. how about our overall pathetic record the last 10 seasons .. god wake up… it gets to a point when u gotta start goin in the right direction.. idiots!!! if the heat woulda fired eric spoelstra after losing to the mavs last season alotta u bums woulda been like ” well he did go 2-4 in the finals “
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
reggie brother will take time out tracking the GB practice squad and assist the coaching if DA is absent
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Reggie…YOUR team just got handled by a 3 win squad by double digits, minus a worthless TD late. What do you have to say?Ted Thompson this, wouldn’t wish this cap issue on anyone, blah blah blah..l
Mumbles is missing his mark on the majority of his choices this year…DA, Tollefson,Bartell, Briesel, resigning Branch…this mess starts at he top!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Thank god some of us realize that many of the sickening comments made on here aren’t made by Raider fans,because if you are you give all good fans a bad name.Some of the comments made on here make fans ashamed to admit they are Raider fans.
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True that, anybody who wish a death on someone over a sports games , should totally be ignored
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
The players and coaching staff, by all appearances, have given up. The demeanor on the field is embarrassing, insulting and unacceptable for what is, allegedly, a “professional” sports team. Shameful.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Pryor won’t play Thursday. Knapp is trying his damnest to get Palmer over 4,000 yds passing so he can use that to save his job.
Case in point:
We have the ball on 15 yd line with 32 sec remaining. It’s 4th and 1. We need TD and FG any way you slice it. You kick the chip shot right then and there. and have 28 secs left for the onside kick.
Instead we go for it and gain 2 yds for the first down. Dy the time we get to line and snap it there are 14 secs left on the clock. After that play we are left with 6 secs. Then we throw the TD with 1 sec left on clock.
It was never about trying to win the game. If it was the FG would have happened.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Hue Jackson haters and DA lovers need to grow up and stop giving these lame azz excuses as to why this team sucks!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
My game notes:
K Longworth is yummy.
C Palmer shaved of his porn stache thats a good thing.
The end
Go Warriors!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The run was working…. And Knapp has Palmer slinging the ball all over the field….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
John Fox should pull a Popovich and leave Manning and like 10-15 other starters at home Thursday.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Ask that O-line how they like pass protecting 54 times in 1 game.
Knapp is a jack wagon!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
quack where are you? gimme those excuses for reggie and DA…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
All you Palmer guys always want to bring up his stats after the game and say he’s not the problem but when you throw a pick in the red zone down 3 points and then collect 100 yards and a TD when the game is basically over
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Just picked this Palmer bashing post, as good as anything. Yea, that was a terrible pass. I’ll put that pass 100% on Palmer. And I’ll put another scoring drive killed on Moore. And I’ll give another scoring drive killed on Bey. And oh, I would be nice if our defense could prevent a 94 yard, 6 minute plus drive in the fourth quarter. So yea, one or two bad passes out of 54. Sure. But it wasn’t in the red zone and there were TONS of contributors to today’s disaster. Blaming Palmer solely makes you look like a friggin moron. Find another team, I’m so sick of retarded fans of my team.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
288…. They’d still beat this team
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
The worse thing for some of these players careers was getting rid of HUE JACKSON
REECE, DMAC, DHB, MOORE for instance
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The team has completely lost focus if you cannot see that you’re denial…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Steward looks good running the ball , Trade Mcfadden in your Madden13s and pick up Stewart
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
For anyone who thinks there was some improvement here. This was the freaking Browns with Weeden. It’s really 20-10.
20-10 against the browns with Weeden. That is also and organization which will likely lose its coach. But it’s coach had them ready to play and its coach was wise enough to map the plays (dumb them down) to the players.
Raiders stink from owner to player.
Thursday night is going to be a laugher. Wonder if DA laughs again with Fox at the end of it?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Caoch Dennis Allen confirmed that CB Ron Bartell and WR Denarius Moore were benched for part of the game because of their subpar play.
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Time to bench Tarver and Knapp for their subpar play calling and coaching.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
lefty if u think that for 1 moment thats its only raider fans then u are completely wrong .. u think if the raiders were the best team in the nfl and carson died all of a sudden, that there wouldnt be chiefs fans & charger that get on the net making jokes and rejoicing ? its not raider fans its football fans its humans
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
269.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Caoch Dennis Allen confirmed that CB Ron Bartell and WR Denarius Moore were benched for part of the game because of their subpar play.
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That’s crap. What about benching another 40 plus guys for subpar play?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
what an idiot.,..
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Hue lovers, i get your upset, and if Reggie and DA keep there job to a certain extent you can feel robbed, But hope is around the corner. Hue Jackson will get the Cal job, in 9 months the University will agree to his demands to run the university, he then will seek political office and eventually run our country with “build a bully” as his slogan.
I understand your mad but Hue is in the past ..please let it go
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
288…. They’d still beat this team
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my point…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The Raiders have been a joke for the past decade for a reason. It’s not going to stop overnight.
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Tell that to the 20,000 Raider fans that showed up in Minnesota last year. The bandwagon was gaining steam the last 2 years….These dummies have messed it up.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I still see no creativity on offense. CP had a few PA bootlegs early, that left him with plenty of time, but that was the end of it. This team is too conservative IMO… CP is a gun slinger… let that dawg loose! I think this is a top-down decision… Allen wants to win conservatively.
It might work once we get better players, but that is not how this team should be playing THIS YEAR. He needs a playbook like his hair is on fire offensively.
Too bad he has Knapp-Time instead. He chopped his nuts off with his first decision as HC. Instead of hiring a hot new OC anxious to make a name for himself… he went to the only moron available to him that he felt comfortable with.
He might lose his job because of it.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
300…. Agree
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Hue lovers can watch that high scoring O at Cal stadium next year
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
nycraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Excuses?… None needed… This is just a flat out bad team…. With some bad coaching
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and a bad gm
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You gotta take that comment back in order for me to consider you a smart raider fan. You cant judge the GM in 1 season. Give him 2-3 years. The DA and Knapp, thats an other ball game. Who hired DA? I know, R Mac.
Ill give R Mac 1 more season.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
We Did need a GM, instead we got an 18 yr assistant with a fictitious title makeup to make him feel like more than a coffee boy…Nobody was EVER going to hire him as a GM.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
There are a lot of scumbags who frequent this blog.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
284,
I thought the same thing. Didn’t make sense.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
1 more season for rm? lol…yeah weve seen how that works…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
269.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Caoch Dennis Allen confirmed that CB Ron Bartell and WR Denarius Moore were benched for part of the game because of their subpar play.
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That’s crap. What about benching another 40 plus guys for subpar play?
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The offense moved the ball better when Moore left the game.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
0ak r8rs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
All you Palmer guys always want to bring up his stats after the game and say he’s not the problem but when you throw a pick in the red zone down 3 points and then collect 100 yards and a TD when the game is basically over
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Just picked this Palmer bashing post, as good as anything. Yea, that was a terrible pass. I’ll put that pass 100% on Palmer. And I’ll put another scoring drive killed on Moore. And I’ll give another scoring drive killed on Bey. And oh, I would be nice if our defense could prevent a 94 yard, 6 minute plus drive in the fourth quarter. So yea, one or two bad passes out of 54. Sure. But it wasn’t in the red zone and there were TONS of contributors to today’s disaster. Blaming Palmer solely makes you look like a friggin moron. Find another team, I’m so sick of retarded fans of my team.
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If you look at the post objectively, he is not saying it’s solely Palmers fault and NO ONE is saying that so if that is some sort of smoke screen …………stop it!
Everyone sees what’s happening. Palmer stacks up stats that don’t mean anything. He is PART of the problem…..period
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I don’t think Knapp and DA were concerned about Palmers stats foremost, i think they were going for the td quick and hoping for onside kick and then just having to get into fg range after that.
I DO think it was wrong decision though.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
did DA finally break down and weep during the presser?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
anyway… u guys keep hoping for mike vick , lol & keep hoping dmac gets healthy ,, ahahha.. & ima stay in reality & pray we hire an actual football coach like brian billick and get a pass rusher & a cornerback that isnt retarded .
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
why does DA trust Jano from 55-60 yards..he hasnt missed yet but DA keeps punting..its costs us this game and the falcons game
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
quack where are you? gimme those excuses for reggie and DA…
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Another moron. STFU and get a new team!!! Yea, lets just run the team like Al did, blow it up every year to a year and a half. It’s worked so well for 25 years you @sshole. Your so stupid and ignorant. You must be 80 years old cause all you can remember is when Al Davis WASN’T a joke. That was over a QUARTER OF A DECADE AGO!!! Al Davis and the raiders have been the biggest embarrassment in football for 25 years! I’m not happy with what’s going on right now either. I’m not even sure we r going in the right direction. But it’s nice to know at least we r TRYING to be a real football team. Build some consistency and confidence in a system. Not saying we r there, that’s for sure. But you can’t just blow it up every year cause you don’t like the results. You just watched CLEVELAND!?!? Any clue about football at all?!?!?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Raiders are in trouble, when there biggest playmaker is a rookie undrafted free agent WR out of Temple, with less than twenty receptions.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Remember Reggie made the Raiders decisions on nothing more than a “GUT FEELING”. What kind for nonsense is that? Maybe the the gut feeling could have been solved with a trip to MC Donalds. Now Raiders Fans that knew the Raiders were so close to enter the playoff races have to sit through the misery MARK and Reggie created. I don’t even want to blame DA right now because his superiors should have known not to hire a rookie head coach from an average D. coord. position.Now we have to deal with a whole new org. with rookie mistakes. Just Great!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Raiders are in trouble, when there biggest playmaker is a rookie undrafted free agent WR out of Temple, with less than twenty receptions.
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so right…and Dmoore and DHB were benched..we have zero good WRS
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
That Palmer to Streater bomb was awesome
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Palmer pads his stats?…. Should he hope his passes get dropped so his stats won’t get padded…….. Those are about the dumbest comments on this board…. The idea is to catch the passes …. If the passes are caught , that’s a good thing….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
DHB was 25 yards from being a 1,000 yard WR. he should have easily had it.. but many of his long passes last year were called back for basic shheyt like holding penalties.
DMOORE one of the most exciting WR’s in the league. Now these guy just dont even seem to care anymore.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
nycraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Hue lovers, i get your upset, and if Reggie and DA keep there job to a certain extent you can feel robbed, But hope is around the corner. Hue Jackson will get the Cal job, in 9 months the University will agree to his demands to run the university, he then will seek political office and eventually run our country with “build a bully” as his slogan.
I understand your mad but Hue is in the past ..please let it go
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I don’t think there would be as much of the hand wringing about Hue IF Allen had hired an aggressive OC that was similar to Hue.
Instead he brought in the most insipid OC in the NFL.
Its still on Allen. Knapp is Allens Boi… Nobody else in the Raider Nation wanted anything to do with this moronic LOSER.
It is what it is… and I have fears Knapp is back next year…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Feel bad for DAregarding his Dad…
But guy had a team come out flat again and
Rt’s his OC abandon the running game and this week the QB roll outs that worked early in the game…he’s a Defensive coach who has a Horrible Defense on the field.
Not a recipe for success in the NFL.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
nycraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Raiders are in trouble, when there biggest playmaker is a rookie undrafted free agent WR out of Temple, with less than twenty receptions.
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so right…and Dmoore and DHB were benched..we have zero good WRS
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Exactly i been telling these guys our receivers s8ck, Streater will eventually be a start in this league in few years, Moore and others just plain s8ck
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Hue lovers can watch that high scoring O at Cal stadium next year
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Would be a solid hire by Cal if they hired Hue.
They should try and get Peterson from Boise St first though. McIntyre from SJSU should be considered as well.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
All you Palmer guys always want to bring up his stats after the game and say he’s not the problem but when you throw a pick in the red zone down 3 points and then collect 100 yards and a TD when the game is basically over
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Just picked this Palmer bashing post, as good as anything. Yea, that was a terrible pass. I’ll put that pass 100% on Palmer. And I’ll put another scoring drive killed on Moore. And I’ll give another scoring drive killed on Bey. And oh, I would be nice if our defense could prevent a 94 yard, 6 minute plus drive in the fourth quarter. So yea, one or two bad passes out of 54. Sure. But it wasn’t in the red zone and there were TONS of contributors to today’s disaster. Blaming Palmer solely makes you look like a friggin moron. Find another team, I’m so sick of retarded fans of my team.
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If you look at the post objectively, he is not saying it’s solely Palmers fault and NO ONE is saying that so if that is some sort of smoke screen …………stop it!
Everyone sees what’s happening. Palmer stacks up stats that don’t mean anything. He is PART of the problem…..period
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If you look at my post I wasn’t exhonerating Palmer. It was a terrible throw. And I’m not touting his garbage stats either. I get it. They r ALL to blame. Your just basically repeating what I said without even realizing it. Take another shot of Jack and go to bed.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Palmer’s stat line vs Broncos on thursday:
31-55 200 yds 1 td 2 int
Myers 15 catches, 80 yds 1 td
dink and dunk
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
311.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
269.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Caoch Dennis Allen confirmed that CB Ron Bartell and WR Denarius Moore were benched for part of the game because of their subpar play.
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That’s crap. What about benching another 40 plus guys for subpar play?
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The offense moved the ball better when Moore left the game.
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If that’s the case then if we bench Brisel 6 weeks ago, Palmer would be 250 yds past Brees passing yds record with 4 games to play.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
The Cleveland Browns?????
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
quack where are you? gimme those excuses for reggie and DA…
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Another moron. STFU and get a new team!!! Yea, lets just run the team like Al did, blow it up every year to a year and a half. It’s worked so well for 25 years you @sshole. Your so stupid and ignorant. You must be 80 years old cause all you can remember is when Al Davis WASN’T a joke. That was over a QUARTER OF A DECADE AGO!!! Al Davis and the raiders have been the biggest embarrassment in football for 25 years! I’m not happy with what’s going on right now either. I’m not even sure we r going in the right direction. But it’s nice to know at least we r TRYING to be a real football team. Build some consistency and confidence in a system. Not saying we r there, that’s for sure. But you can’t just blow it up every year cause you don’t like the results. You just watched CLEVELAND!?!? Any clue about football at all?!?!?
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how long was the great mike holgrem in charge? hmmm didnt work out that well imo..1 yr or 10 yers..if you have the wrong gm or coach your franchise will suck. replacing Al with Reggie was a mistake. Mark Davis decided too quickly on Reggie. Yes Reggie has alot of excuses for 2012 but none for 2013
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Bad performances by players on the field is a reflection of a bad and inexperienced coaching.
DA and his staff suck balls!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
good point an undrafted wr from where? he is our playmaker? lol…yeah reggie and DA are incompetent…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
When there is no leadership the people wander……take a good look at the Raiders…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Priest, It was a bad int. at a crucial time. I don’t like it either, and i know u wanna see Pryor, but in this game guys are still dropping passes professionals should catch.
3rd down drops can kill a team. It happened again today, but u said it yourself how OTHER teams can overcome one int. and we can’t.
Palmer has to play perfect. He doesn’t.
He has lost games before when he played nearly perfect.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Gdog Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I still see no creativity on offense. CP had a few PA bootlegs early, that left him with plenty of time, but that was the end of it. This team is too conservative IMO… CP is a gun slinger… let that dawg loose! I think this is a top-down decision… Allen wants to win conservatively.
It might work once we get better players, but that is not how this team should be playing THIS YEAR. He needs a playbook like his hair is on fire offensively.
Too bad he has Knapp-Time instead. He chopped his nuts off with his first decision as HC. Instead of hiring a hot new OC anxious to make a name for himself… he went to the only moron available to him that he felt comfortable with.
He might lose his job because of it.
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All true.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Keepers
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Palmer
Reece
Myers
Streater = bright future
Criner = nice future
Moore = could be legit if demoted to #3 or #4
DHB = Should be #3 or #4 as well
Vel
Wiz
Only a few keepers on D side
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Houston
Burris
Wheeler
Huff
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Does Palmer have the IT factor or INT factor..HMM
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
oak r8r…you like this krapp? 3-13 is good for you…lmao, effin stupid…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Palmer is not the problems.. but he definitely is not part of the solution either.
Gone
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
i wonder what tom brady would look like if he was our starting qb all this season ? would criner have 80 catches ? we he have no bad interceptions ? hmmm
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
DA’s game planning consists of cuddling up with Tarver, sharing a cup of cocoa, and “breaking down the tape” with sharpies in hand
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Blaming Palmer for this loss is lame.
DA “specialty” is supposed to be on defense huh?
His defense stinks….especially if they can’t improve upon the crappy defense from last year.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
a real football team? for what division 3? we have wr that runs a 4.73….DEs run faster than that…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Palmer is a beast , get over it
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
0ak r8rs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
SJSURaider (19yr19fan) Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
All you Palmer guys always want to bring up his stats after the game and say he’s not the problem but when you throw a pick in the red zone down 3 points and then collect 100 yards and a TD when the game is basically over
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Just picked this Palmer bashing post, as good as anything. Yea, that was a terrible pass. I’ll put that pass 100% on Palmer. And I’ll put another scoring drive killed on Moore. And I’ll give another scoring drive killed on Bey. And oh, I would be nice if our defense could prevent a 94 yard, 6 minute plus drive in the fourth quarter. So yea, one or two bad passes out of 54. Sure. But it wasn’t in the red zone and there were TONS of contributors to today’s disaster. Blaming Palmer solely makes you look like a friggin moron. Find another team, I’m so sick of retarded fans of my team.
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If you look at the post objectively, he is not saying it’s solely Palmers fault and NO ONE is saying that so if that is some sort of smoke screen …………stop it!
Everyone sees what’s happening. Palmer stacks up stats that don’t mean anything. He is PART of the problem…..period
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Who is pretending he isn’t? The reality is that Pryor isn’t the answer either. I still say f we give him a true number one receiver and a more robust line, he could lead us to the promised land.
If anyone thinks TP can do that… they are playing too much Madden.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
He would look alot better.. For one he get the ball out alot quicker.
His offense is well executed like a maching ..not a bad pickup game of football
2. he is 3x the qb that palmer is.. manning too. These guys actually make their WR’s better
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
#1 pick baby!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
2-14 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
DA’s game planning consists of cuddling up with Tarver, sharing a cup of cocoa, and “breaking down the tape” with sharpies in hand
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LMAO…how is that DA, Knapp, Pollack, Tarver and Hoffman lovers?!?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Only place Pryor is good at is on Madden13
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
who is blaming palmer? he is not the problem. He is not very good either. Just an average qb like Alex smith.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Steward looks good running the ball , Trade Mcfadden in your Madden13s and pick up Stewart
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He looked really good. He keeps low and lets things develop. Same goes for Goodson and Reece.
I agree, time to start thinking about shipping off Dmac. I think he’s reached his peak in the bell curve. And can’t hang your hat on a dude that can’t finish a season.
Glass Foot McFadden.
Next years running attack = Reece / Goodson / Stewart
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
way here goes someone to defend palmer with his “STATS” lmao.
the guy is average
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Palmer is not the problems.. but he definitely is not part of the solution either.
Gone
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So who is the solution?
Be specific and give concrete answers not based on blind faith please.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Priest, It was a bad int. at a crucial time. I don’t like it either, and i know u wanna see Pryor, but in this game guys are still dropping passes professionals should catch.
3rd down drops can kill a team. It happened again today, but u said it yourself how OTHER teams can overcome one int. and we can’t.
Palmer has to play perfect. He doesn’t.
He has lost games before when he played nearly perfect
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I’ve beensaying that about DMo all year long this didn’t just start yesterday…Where sis I say other teams can overcome them and we can’t?
I think we can overcome ints. with the right type of leadership and and chemistry. This team is demoralized and i don’t think you understand what that means. When players have no faith in the leader they will ultimately undo it themselves because they don’t believe it’s going to get done…………period
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Dakota Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
#1 pick baby!
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Now that’s what I’m talking about, these guys don’t understand the master plan
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The Problem, as its been all year, is that the Raiders can’t score.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
300.nycraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I will build my slogan behind Hues first year and you can build yours behind /Mark/Reggie/DA combo pack. And the Raiders were gone this year after the third game.At least last year had many games to watch and some hope up until the finale game they lost.
Hue lovers, i get your upset, and if Reggie and DA keep there job to a certain extent you can feel robbed, But hope is around the corner. Hue Jackson will get the Cal job, in 9 months the University will agree to his demands to run the university, he then will seek political office and eventually run our country with “build a bully” as his slogan.
I understand your mad but Hue is in the past ..please let it go
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
It’s Tarvers defense DA is the HC you stupid clown.
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DKnight007 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Blaming Palmer for this loss is lame.
DA “specialty” is supposed to be on defense huh?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Keepers
___
Palmer
Reece
Myers
Streater = bright future
Criner = nice future
Moore = could be legit if demoted to #3 or #4
DHB = Should be #3 or #4 as well
Vel
Wiz
Only a few keepers on D side
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Houston
Burris
Wheeler
Huff
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Sounds about right, would add Goodson good #2 back
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
That Palmer to Streater bomb was awesome
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Play of the game. That was a beautiful football play.
Im going to leave on that note.
On the bright side, we’ll have a high draft pick next season, and hopefully, a new staff.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Gdog Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Palmer is not the problems.. but he definitely is not part of the solution either.
Gone
>>>>
So who is the solution?
Be specific and give concrete answers not based on blind faith please.
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Palmer is a stop gap and, if we get lucky and hire a real coaching staff, may be the short term answer at QB. Pryor isn’t ready and Reggie wont spend a 1st round pick on a QB. Look to the 2014 draft
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Steward looks good running the ball , Trade Mcfadden in your Madden13s and pick up Stewart
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He looked really good. He keeps low and lets things develop. Same goes for Goodson and Reece.
I agree, time to start thinking about shipping off Dmac. I think he’s reached his peak in the bell curve. And can’t hang your hat on a dude that can’t finish a season.
Glass Foot McFadden.
Next years running attack = Reece / Goodson / Stewart
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I could live with that, maybe Jerry Jones will give us a 1st for the guy from his Alma Mater who he wanted to draft
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Reggie restructured Palmers salary in 2102- he makes 825,000 and next year he makes 15mil which i believe is 100% guaranteed. he isnt going anywhere and this is another example of Reggie not really rebuilding. throw in how Reggie handled Seymour and Branch and Reggie really hurt our team’s cap flexability next year. especially for a team that is rebuilding.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
so if tom brady was our qb then doug martin wouldnt have ran for 270 yards .. interesting .. ok .. and dmac wouldnt have gotten hurt either right ?> well i learn something today… so if tom brady.. aka god, was our qb,, and not palmer. aka , mudworm , then he would make knapp call better plays ?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
morilla Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Steward looks good running the ball , Trade Mcfadden in your Madden13s and pick up Stewart
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He looked really good. He keeps low and lets things develop. Same goes for Goodson and Reece.
I agree, time to start thinking about shipping off Dmac. I think he’s reached his peak in the bell curve. And can’t hang your hat on a dude that can’t finish a season.
Glass Foot McFadden.
Next years running attack = Reece / Goodson / Stewart
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Agree!
Goodson is more of a 3rd down back. I like Reece and Stewart.
Dmac, thanks for the good memories, but your gone for picks. Maybe a 2 & 4 pick?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
You dont build the team around a 33yr old average qb. The guy is a garbage time all star.
Why do you think Mark said in his presser he had his own “ideas” on who should be qb. who is he talking about?
Only Mckenzie knows who his qb will be. Im just stating my opinion like all of you are.
Only Mckenzie will make that call. but most football anaylyst say palmer wont be back next year
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
cLEVELAND pATRIOTS!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
No if Tom brady was our qb we would be going toe to toe with every team and would not lose to the browns today
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raiders may just wind up with the #1 pick??
Oh boy…no clear cut #1 this year really. Ugh.
I want Te’o this team needs a true QB and leader of the defense. Te’o would never quit like McClain did.
I don’t give a crap if Te’o is not a pass rusher he is a captain and leader of men and is all heart and soul and is a special talent.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Today was DA’s “bend don’t break” defense in action.
Only today it was ‘bend don’t break…until clutch time” defense.
That’s what happens.
When you bend too much…you eventually break.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Ryan Lownes@ryanlownes
Carson Palmer led the #Bengals to two playoff appearances between 2003-2010. Dalton may be post-season bound his first two years in the NFL.
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December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Christmas wish list:
Raiders defeat Kansas City, Denver, and San Diego,
Raiders draft either DE, D. Moore or LB, Te’o.
Fire Knapp,
Return to power blocking scheme with Wisniewski back at LG.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The Problem, as its been all year, is that the Raiders can’t score.
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The most insipid OC in the history of the NFL doesn’t help.
Once Knapp gets fired (hopefully as soon as the season is over) I predict he will be completely out of football.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
That Palmer to Streater bomb was awesome
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Play of the game. That was a beautiful football play.
Im going to leave on that note.
On the bright side, we’ll have a high draft pick next season, and hopefully, a new staff.
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Al D would have been proud of that play, we lost but I’m not too mad over the loss, because we can get a game changer with that high pick
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Ben Axelrod@BenAxelrod
I forgot how much I love watching the Browns play Carson Palmer. Can we get him back in the AFC North?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
So far, DA is looking more like a Dumb As* then Dennis Allen.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Trade DMC to the Jets, Dallas or Green Bay for a 2nd and 4th. One of them will bite.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
368,
“MOST’ analysts say he won’t be back next year? I haven’t one analyst say that.
Maybe you’ve heard something I haven’t.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
If Knappies is running the team for the duration of DA’s leave of absence, I wonder what purpose Saunders serves? Is Saunders Mark’s spy?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raiders may just wind up with the #1 pick??
Oh boy…no clear cut #1 this year really. Ugh.
I want Te’o this team needs a true QB and leader of the defense. Te’o would never quit like McClain did.
I don’t give a crap if Te’o is not a pass rusher he is a captain and leader of men and is all heart and soul and is a special talent.
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I’d love to get him! O-line if not.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Thought the Oline was a little better today…… But the Wrs and defense failed badly …
Run game was pretty good but
Knapp wouldn’t stick with it….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Just get the #1 pick and draft the DE or trade down for kings ransom and get future HOF’s
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Man at this level this game is soo damn violent that if you’re total team isn’t all bought in on what they have to do. IT AINT GONNA WORK………period
When it comes to nut cutting time they will make mistakes everytime. The difference between wins and loses is minimal. The difference is CONFIDENCE and when you don’t have it and the other team does THEY WILL WIN damn near 100% of the time.
You cannot have players guessing what you want done and how to do it. They have to hav etoatl trust in the leader and their teammates if NOT forget it. It’s just too damn hard without those elements.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.
The season is over. Denver won the division & the playoffs are out of the question. Now is the time to hold tryouts for next year’s squad. The Denver defense will kill CP3 with our O-line & receivers. Put TP6 in there for the whole game. I don’t care if we win or not. Actually, I’d rather lose and improve our drafting position. Keep CP3 healthy because we may be trading him along with some others. It’s time to reload for next year. Let’s see who is worth keeping and go from there.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Just get the #1 pick and draft the DE or trade down for kings ransom and get future HOF’s
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I would also trade down, for sure.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I have.. Papa says its still in the air. Rich Gannon just said you have to decide if you are gonna build the team around palmer or gonna get a young guy. His words not mine.
and Peter King (I know) says he will gonna be gone.
and some AFC west blog dude Bill williamson says Raiders cant build the team with Palmer moving foward.
That is 4
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Ben Axelrod@BenAxelrod
I forgot how much I love watching the Browns play Carson Palmer. Can we get him back in the AFC North?
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Palmer was 7-3 (i think) against the Browns before today, and he “loved” that?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
2nd and 4th ? ok.. what gm in the league would do that ? maybe jerry jones is that insane but noone else love darren mcfadden that much.. 2nd rounder ? dude…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
You dont build the team around a 33yr old average qb. The guy is a garbage time all star.
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BINGO!!! Would have rather bombed last year with Boller, that trade set (1st and 2nd) set us back a year or two.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Run game has been kinda surprise last 2-3 weeks, why abandon it and throw to inexperienced receivers or get Palmer’s arm tired, keep freaking running
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
i likes meees draft em picks….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Post 367 you think Dmac has peaked at 25? Lmao yea you trade him and watch him set recordse with a real team and be mad. Truth is he hasnt reached his peak while guys like Stewart ceilings are real low, you guys are all ready to cream on yourselves on a couple good runs but Dmac has been great for years and he showed you what he was capable of last year. Only a fool would trade him for peanuts.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Gdog Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The Problem, as its been all year, is that the Raiders can’t score.
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The most insipid OC in the history of the NFL doesn’t help.
Once Knapp gets fired (hopefully as soon as the season is over) I predict he will be completely out of football.
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Maybe Pop Warner, or High School. God forbid,……….I hope you’re right.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
its possible the cardinals want carson palmer . i bet larry fitzgerald is regretting signing that extension .
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Teo is too inspirational/loud/tough to fit into the new look vanila Raiders
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
These guys should know how to tackle now….. And how many times did we see a brown receiver wide open…… Way to many blown coverages
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I’m sure this has been discussed already but I’m too lazy to read through the blog.
What the fk is up with the last 3 minutes?
Is that Knapp or CP throwing up the middle?
Not one sideline pass to stop the clock.
to be honest, Palmer looked like sht today.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
2romes Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Remember Reggie made the Raiders decisions on nothing more than a “GUT FEELING”. What kind for nonsense is that? Maybe the the gut feeling could have been solved with a trip to MC Donalds.
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LMAO!!!
When Reggie got a gut feeling then that’s a whole lotta feeling and it can’t be ignored. Once Mark gets the expense report on food for Reggie, Joey C. and Raleigh then he’ll make changes. Dudes r too expensive to feed.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
388,
They are speculating on the QB situation, but i’ve heard those same things too.
I didn’t take it they were saying he would not be here.
They are saying Raiders need to think about what they are gonna do.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Im just trying to tell you guys you will keep getting the same thing out of palmer.. doesnt matter.
The guy had two playoff appearances from 2003 – 2010.
Dalton is already on to his second one if they keep winning.
EVen tebow has a playoff win one real year of starting. They were 1-4 before he came in and helped DA get noticed and get a job.
like i said im just stating my OPINION
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
JB Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.
The season is over. Denver won the division & the playoffs are out of the question. Now is the time to hold tryouts for next year’s squad. The Denver defense will kill CP3 with our O-line & receivers. Put TP6 in there for the whole game. I don’t care if we win or not. Actually, I’d rather lose and improve our drafting position. Keep CP3 healthy because we may be trading him along with some others. It’s time to reload for next year. Let’s see who is worth keeping and go from there.
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I could have lived with Luck and Griffin and move forward, but why get rid of Palmer now, yes his arm is probably not same , you can help that out by keep run/pass ratio 50/50 but why trade him for average qb from college or average FA’s don’t make sense, unless you guys want to go 4-12 next year
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I have.. Papa says its still in the air. Rich Gannon just said you have to decide if you are gonna build the team around palmer or gonna get a young guy. His words not mine.
and Peter King (I know) says he will gonna be gone.
and some AFC west blog dude Bill williamson says Raiders cant build the team with Palmer moving foward.
That is 4
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Oh ok…get rid of Palmer and then build around which QB again??
Again…same crap as last year….fire Hue…fire Hue without having a solid replacement in mind.
Idiots!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Palmer cant even scramble for a first down
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Bartel is no better than Huff! Dude got toasted.
Lately when I’m watching the Raiders play, it feels like I’m doing penance.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
A real head coach would walk onto the field and rip Kelly’s captain patch off after the 3rd or 4th bonehead penalty. cut this slob already
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.
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Look around the league at all the bad teams and what is the one common denominator. Bad QB play and a lack of leadership other than that not much difference.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I have.. Papa says its still in the air. Rich Gannon just said you have to decide if you are gonna build the team around palmer or gonna get a young guy. His words not mine.
and Peter King (I know) says he will gonna be gone.
and some AFC west blog dude Bill williamson says Raiders cant build the team with Palmer moving foward.
That is 4
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The harsh reality is you can’t. People thought he could cary the team but that is asking too much. No consistant WRs or defense.
Face it, we weren’t built for Carson. He’s above our current level.
We need to bring in some young talent and see what TP can do. And in no way will I ever blame CP for the Raiders losing ways.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
DiKnight, tell me again how the Warriors FK’d up letting J Lin go.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
It would be nice if we had the same effective running game as we did the last two years to keep pressure off Palmer.
Oh wait that was when Hue Jackson was running the show.
Ooops!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
JB Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.
The season is over. Denver won the division & the playoffs are out of the question. Now is the time to hold tryouts for next year’s squad. The Denver defense will kill CP3 with our O-line & receivers. Put TP6 in there for the whole game. I don’t care if we win or not. Actually, I’d rather lose and improve our drafting position. Keep CP3 healthy because we may be trading him along with some others. It’s time to reload for next year. Let’s see who is worth keeping and go from there.
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I could have lived with Luck and Griffin and move forward, but why get rid of Palmer now, yes his arm is probably not same , you can help that out by keep run/pass ratio 50/50 but why trade him for average qb from college or average FA’s don’t make sense, unless you guys want to go 4-12 next year
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D Moore? try D Less
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Back the bus up and start loading it!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
they need to change the locks as soon as DA leaves the office…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
edward teach Says:
There are folks that will point to the INT and say that Carson lost the game for the Raiders on that one play.
Trouble is, there were at least ten critical plays on offense alone where Palmer did his job just fine and somebody else gacked it up. Those mistakes cost the team first downs and points. ============================
Typical, running to make excuses for your golden haired hero throwing yet another bone headed back breaking int. while trying to pad his career stats with TP suited up and ready to come save the day. DA and all of you have an agenda and it’s not hard to see what it is. Even that uncle ton Lorezo Neal gave the game ball to Myers! The trickinologists have all you cats snowed. I’m out. Peace.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
The Mack Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Post 367 you think Dmac has peaked at 25? Lmao yea you trade him and watch him set recordse with a real team and be mad. Truth is he hasnt reached his peak while guys like Stewart ceilings are real low, you guys are all ready to cream on yourselves on a couple good runs but Dmac has been great for years and he showed you what he was capable of last year. Only a fool would trade him for peanuts.
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Dude just get over it, if we’re going with ZBS we can find our self a nice RB that will fit in fine with the scheme, A Foster was undrafted , top 5 RB in league, A Morris was also undrafted or late round picks , doing pretty well in washington, there are other guys who exceed in zbs and weren’t drafted really high
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
im seriously tired of every guy on the team .. is it possible we can cut all 60 players ? im serious.. i dont care if the whole team is rookies,,,
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Yeah build with a young QB with Knapps whack azz offensive system and zero running game??
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
they need to change the locks as soon as DA leaves the office…
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And the locks on the doors to the locker room.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws COMPLETE, 2nd and 10.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws………………… COMPLETE, 2nd and 10.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
screw it.. change the uniforms too,,, the lions upgraded and they dont suck as much.. change the slogans,.. give the entire defense adderall… do something hell!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
#1 pick is within our graps
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
im seriously tired of every guy on the team .. is it possible we can cut all 60 players ? im serious.. i dont care if the whole team is rookies,,,
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I’m right there with you. Trust me, this current roster is scrapped.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
all u low i.q. having raider fans add me on facebook.. dorian marchel gray .. now dexter is on.. die dennis allens father die.!! goodnight raider nation
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
ten and then….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Well have fun guys, I’m out, later Al_the_troll
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws………………… COMPLETE, Incredible catch! 2nd and 10.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
KK is your needle stuck ?
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
all u low i.q. having raider fans add me on facebook.. dorian marchel gray .. now dexter is on.. die dennis allens father die.!! goodnight raider nation
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Actaully I’m not right there with you after that comment. You are on the ignore list.
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws………………… COMPLETE, Incredible catch! 2nd and 10.
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you forgot, napp and DA exchanging high fives and gay smiles on the sideline
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
I saw plenty of run game there today.. the thing is you must COMMIT to it.
Allen said the running stop because plays were coming out of Palmers NO HUDDLE OFFENSE
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
lol.. kool kell u stupid ,, take yo senile meds now
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Against the Browns yet…Oh, the shame of it all…
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
reggies calling you mcxcuse20….
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
This team just doesn’t know how to win.
Starting first and foremost with the QB.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
oak r8r…you like this krapp? 3-13 is good for you…lmao, effin stupid…
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Yea. I like this. Learn how to read before you talk to me. Didn’t ever say I liked what was going on. Just saying I’m not an idiot like you looking to blow everything up every 8 games. Sure, management and coaching has made plenty of mistakes. I never said I was happy about any of it. But only a complete moron would think that the best management abc coaching staffs in the history of the NFL could win more than 7 or 8 games w these check cashing bums. I’m just so sick of your glory day bullshlt. If your not at least 35 you have probably not seen more than 2 successful raider seasons. TWO!!!!! These guys, morons they might be, might not be, have had 8 months.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
This team just doesn’t know how to win.
Starting first and foremost with the QB.
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i would say the coaching staff has more to do with it
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I know its crazy you would think we were talking about just losing to the pats.
IT was the freaking 3-8 BROWNS LOL.. my goodness. who cares at this point
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
As of week 13
Philadelphia* 3-8
Oakland 3-9
Carolina 3-9
Jacksonville 2-10
Kansas City 2-10
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I see Oak going 3-13, Eagles 3-13, KC going 4-12, Jags 4-12, Panthers 5-11.
So the raiders are going to either have the 1st or second pick in the draft and we all know that the rams were able to get 3 first round draft picks and a second rounder.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Plenty of over culprits, but when we need Carson the most, he comes up small.
How do you underthrow that on 1st and 10?
He’s like that pitcher that only hangs one curveball a game, only that is a 1-1 curveball to the cleanup hitter with 2 on.
You know how that goes.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
lol.. kool kell u stupid ,, take yo senile meds now
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Sorry, I’ll take a pill.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
#Raiders are 1-9 when Carson Palmer throws for more than 300 yards
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
ready for the thursday night massacre
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
u would think the coaching staff knows that stat by no and stick by the run game
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
i would say the coaching staff has more to do with it
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Seems like a player issue to me.
Last TD of the game, they don’t even block Matt S and run it right at him.
What kind of DE doesn’t get blocked and still can’t get a hit on the RB?
These guys all stink. 80% of them.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Been a Palmer fan in general, given the available options, but this one is on him. Without that pick, raiders win. 500 yards or not, browns only had 20 points. You can’t lose to the browns at home against 20. Drops, play calling we’re an issue, but Palmer three that pick at the worst time. Shades of Kerry Collins-always the pick at the worst possible time.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Just saw the Thursday night game promo…..Raiders primed to upset the Division rivals the Broncos……………….. really?
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raiders 40, Broncos 0
Print that.!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
thats what im saying PALMER reminds me of KERRY COLLINS back with the Raiders
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
i think this blog should go back to arguing over politics
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
as usual draft talk in early December-smh
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
We lost to the more talented team today, sadly.
I didn’t see any of their WR’s drop balls. Weeden threw some picks, but made his best throws when it counted most.
Miles Burris would be on their PS. So would half our secondary.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Most of this team should be working at a Car wash….
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
broncos 97 // raiders – 4 … the nfl invents a rule during the game and raiders become 1st team to amass negative points ever .
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The Al Apologist in Chief, Father Pride & Poise, would have us believe that problems with the coaching, player morale, and leadership are new issues, and if you read between the lines what you get–unsurprisingly–is a justification for the player first atmosphere that Al enforced. Still the same ol finger pointing at the coaches, who were ALWAYS guilty of letting Al down. But clearly, what we have on our hands now is a continuation of long standing problems with lack of discipline and lack of accountability, not to mention the thin talent on the roster. Not that McKenzie gets off the hook for the debacle, but you got to remember that it took Al 13 years to win a Super Bowl.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Just saw the Thursday night game promo…..Raiders primed to upset the Division rivals the Broncos……………….. really?
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It should have said Raiders primed to help their division rival in any way possible.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
call it the (suck) rule .. jim rome and other analysts argue that the newly implented suck rule is fair and the raiders dont argue at all .. dennis allen doesnt complain to the officials at all..
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Just saw the Thursday night game promo…..Raiders primed to upset the Division rivals the Broncos……………….. really?
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Yea. NFL network. Lousy scumbag self promoting pieces of shlt. Not a word from any of them about the raiders all year. We r the most irrelevant team in the league, even when we r .500. But they have the balls to say we r primed for anything? What a joke.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
415.Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
edward teach Says:
There are folks that will point to the INT and say that Carson lost the game for the Raiders on that one play.
Trouble is, there were at least ten critical plays on offense alone where Palmer did his job just fine and somebody else gacked it up. Those mistakes cost the team first downs and points. ============================
Typical, running to make excuses for your golden haired hero throwing yet another bone headed back breaking int. while trying to pad his career stats with TP suited up and ready to come save the day. DA and all of you have an agenda and it’s not hard to see what it is. Even that uncle ton Lorezo Neal gave the game ball to Myers! The trickinologists have all you cats snowed. I’m out. Peace.
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Carson Palmer is not “my golden haired hero”. That was a term coined by Mistic to discredit everyone that wasn’t clamoring for the Space Aged Offense.
Your calling Lorenzo Neal an Uncle Tom for giving the game ball to a white player is all anyone needs to know about your motivation. The agenda is yours, not someone else’s.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
clearly what we have is a 3 win coach…
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Fingers Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Just saw the Thursday night game promo…..Raiders primed to upset the Division rivals the Broncos……………….. really?
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A much better sell would be “Tune in and see exciting new QB Terrel Pryor start his first game”
The NFL needs to step in and so does Mark, for the simple fact that if they dont, nobody is going to watch the game.
But the reality is, with a short week, TP is not going to get any reps for this game.
TP at least makes this game worth watching or going too.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Got to meet Reggie and Mark today thanks to Amy hooking me up,..got lots of pics of me and Reggie,..me and Mark,..me and Morris Bradshaw,…friggin awesome day,…thought for sure we would win but didnt,..knew there was trouble when DMC once again refused to play, even when not hurt,..but before game I told Reggie and Mark both us fans give them all the support,…Reggie is cool,…Mark is too,…the players gotta go however,…all in all a great day,..meeting them two on the sideline was amazing,…Morris remembers me from the LA days,..Morris let my wife wear his SB ring and get some pics,..I will say this,..the losing hurts,…but I will tell you what I told Reggie to his face,…we have faith in you, we now know the teams in good hands,…Reggie is a Raider and this losing will not last….long live the Nation.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
DA and Knapp may need to go, you certinly can’t argue they need to stay.
But if we don’t surround the next guy with more talent and a better QB, he isn’t going to stand much of a chance either.
2012 November/December Oakland Raiders = Least talented Raiders squad EVER
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I like hoe the transvestite says we have to go back to work tomarro and 5 min. later takes aleave of absence.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
This team doesn’t have enough talent to Make a Peanut Butter Sandwich …
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
If Knappies is running the team for the duration of DA’s leave of absence, I wonder what purpose Saunders serves? Is Saunders Mark’s spy? Anyone’s guess?
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Ohioraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The Al Apologist in Chief, Father Pride & Poise, would have us believe that problems with the coaching, player morale, and leadership are new issues, and if you read between the lines what you get–unsurprisingly–is a justification for the player first atmosphere that Al enforced. Still the same ol finger pointing at the coaches, who were ALWAYS guilty of letting Al down. But clearly, what we have on our hands now is a continuation of long standing problems with lack of discipline and lack of accountability, not to mention the thin talent on the roster. Not that McKenzie gets off the hook for the debacle, but you got to remember that it took Al 13 years to win a Super Bowl.
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A decade of wasted 1st rd picks will do that to any franchise.
Thanks Al.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
clearly what we have is a 3 win coach…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Maybe 4 if we are lucky.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
a season of 3 wins will black out oakland again….thanks reggie.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I will say this,..the losing hurts,…but I will tell you what I told Reggie to his face,…we have faith in you, we now know ==================================================== Hey,who the fk is we? speak for yourself jacka$$.90% of us do not have faith in that spear chucker.You lied to his face is what you did.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Al Saunders is a 65 year old consultant.
You probably ask him to review some film on a play, and he gets back to you after a 3 hour lunch.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
if we are really lucky…i dont think DA can beat the chefs…
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Just so we’re clear.
The staff thinks the players r bums but wouldn’t say it cause then they won’t play right.
The players won’t say what they really think cause there isn’t an Al scholarship anymore. But the guys are working just need consistency we were told.
Well we got consistency – in spades!!
Just like hue brought in his guys TJ and Palmer, this staff brought in their guys an we got Spencer, Bartell and Briesel.
Sometimes the more things change the more they stay the same.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
whats wrong with 3 hour lunches?
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Reggie hater,…you arent one of us,..you simply dont matter.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Nothing wrong with 3 hour lunches….. We just watched out football team take one
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
lol…true that.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Trades after the season:
Palmer for late 1st or 2 rounder
Mcfadden for 2nd or 3rd
DHB for 4th
Rolando for 7th
Kelly,Shaunessy for 6th
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Things I learned from today’s game…
Dennis Allen doesn’t drop passes, but DHB, Moore, and others SURE DO!
Dennis Allen doesn’t throw INTs, but Palmer SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t get blown off the line of scrimmage, but the Offensive Line SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t leave players uncovered, miss tackles, get personal fouls, and various other stupid sh!t, but the Defense SURE DOES!
This team is a train wreck of 3rd string talent… horrible.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
im gonna leave and change my handle…lol…pathetic.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
427.mcfadden20. Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Well have fun guys, I’m out, later Al_the_troll
Please stay out,you are dumber then a sack of hammers.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I’m confused.
People here are MAD after this loss.
Yet the same people want D(0)A gone.
If that’s what you want then you MUST WANT more short term humiliation like this.
As a bonus, total tankage (which we are only midway through) WILL yield better picks in April.
Continuing this dumpster-fire caliber of play WILL exacerbate the coaching AND player exodus.
Win-Win-Win
You WANT to see 3-13.
Here’s to a successful 9-game IMPLOSION…
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Things I learned from today’s game…
Dennis Allen doesn’t drop passes, but DHB, Moore, and others SURE DO!
Dennis Allen doesn’t throw INTs, but Palmer SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t get blown off the line of scrimmage, but the Offensive Line SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t leave players uncovered, miss tackles, get personal fouls, and various other stupid sh!t, but the Defense SURE DOES!
This team is a train wreck of 3rd string talent… horrible.
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He is the Head Coach though, ne?
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
476.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Reggie hater,…you arent one of us,..you simply dont matter.
Not what your daughter says.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Reggiehater Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I will say this,..the losing hurts,…but I will tell you what I told Reggie to his face,…we have faith in you, we now know ==================================================== Hey,who the fk is we? speak for yourself jacka$$.90% of us do not have faith in that spear chucker.You lied to his face is what you did.
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RACIST!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Loooooong time reader here, first time poster. But I’ve been around, behind the curtain to know a lot of you just from observing the comments. I have to say there’s a few of you who give football fans a bad name.(yes, I few of you are great Raider fans too, but you know who you are)For those of you idiots, not only do you know d1ck about football, but to blame the QB and OC for losing this game is simply ludicrous. Have you seen our defense? Have you seen players like T.Kelly, Shonasty and others standing around piles doing nothing? Have you seen who CP3 is throwing to? Have you seen our O-line? Did you watch any of the games so far? Or are you so caught up in yourselves? This team from top to bottom is atrocious. The head coach, his staff, have quite simply been outdone week in and week out. Interim head coaches have faired better results. The entire team is to blame. All of them. This team lacks NFL starting talent at every position on the roster aside from QB.(No, Pryor is not a starter dummy!) The exceptions CP3, Houston, Wheeler, Burris, Myers, Reece, Veldheer deserve to be here next year. The young guys from the most recent draft should be given a shot too. All the others can walk the plank! This team is a disgrace to the greatest fan base in the world! How can we be expected to support this team!?! If I keep watching them like this, soon they’ll be my least liked team, and I’ll be routing for them to jump ship to LA, so I can jump ship too! But if they do stay in the bay, they have got to fix this, and it starts from the top, and works right on down! There are no excuses!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
DA the 3rd NFL suicide in three days.I hope!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I thought the O-line played fairly well today. Not great, but not terrible.
They opened up enough holes to let our pathetic RB core rush for some decent yardage and average. Palmer had enough time to throw most plays.
I like Stewart as maybe a #2 RB, but pretty sad when he represents your “big-play” RB.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Brandon Weeden was 25-of-36 for 364 yards in the game.
how about this new modern defensive scheme….zone defense at its best.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
You WANT to see 3-13.
Here’s to a successful 9-game IMPLOSION…
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That ought to push season ticket sales for 2013. Will do wonders to sell jobs to new coaches and FA’s.
And no doubt will get the city to move on building a stadium.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
彼ははい、ヘッドコーチである
Kare wa hai, heddokōchidearu
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
486.THE BLACKHOLE Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Reggiehater Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I will say this,..the losing hurts,…but I will tell you what I told Reggie to his face,…we have faith in you, we now know ==================================================== Hey,who the fk is we? speak for yourself jacka$$.90% of us do not have faith in that spear chucker.You lied to his face is what you did.
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RACIST!
Na,i hate this whole staff equally.You forgot the other gay name in here TROLL.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Once again, Carson Palmer reminds me of Charlie Brown (the peanuts character)! Once we have the momentum bam! another unforced interception by Palmer. That is the 3rd game he has personally has literally thrown away this year! He is supposed to be the “leader”, the “captain”, the “boss”, the CEO! He does lead but unfortunately he takes the path of least resistance-a loss! End of this draft pick-sucking-experiment. Palmer is a loser and losing follows him wherever he goes. Dump him and move along. Unfortunately,Reggie won’t be able to trade him for a 4th round draft pick!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I’m happy we have become a “modern” team like the Chiefs and Jaguars and not have an out of date owner like the Bengals.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
racist racist racist troll troll troll racist troll troll racist…. ALL gay gay gay.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Ohioraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The Al Apologist in Chief, Father Pride & Poise, would have us believe that problems with the coaching, player morale, and leadership are new issues, and if you read between the lines what you get–unsurprisingly–is a justification for the player first atmosphere that Al enforced. Still the same ol finger pointing at the coaches, who were ALWAYS guilty of letting Al down. But clearly, what we have on our hands now is a continuation of long standing problems with lack of discipline and lack of accountability, not to mention the thin talent on the roster. Not that McKenzie gets off the hook for the debacle, but you got to remember that it took Al 13 years to win a Super Bowl.
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A decade of wasted 1st rd picks will do that to any franchise.
Thanks Al.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lets leave the “1st rd” out of it. A DECADE of wasted picks. Who do we have from the last 10 years? Lets start w janikowski and lechler. Nvm that we burned a 1st and 4th on those guys, when nobody burns picks on kickers and punters like that, but at least they panned out. Can’t argue that. But who else? Houston comes to mind, ok for a second a guess. Certainly better than our first that year, suspendo. Branch? Pass. Huff? Not as a number 1, might consider him a good 3rd or 4th rounder. Veldheer? Yea. McFadden? No way, maybe if he could stay healthy, but no. Reece? Did we even draft him? Probably, not sure tho. To lazy to look it up. Wiz? Last year yea. This year? Looking like yet another in a long line of raider busts. Bey? Nope. Not a number 1. Moore? Last year for sure, this year doesn’t even look like he was worth a 4th. Ford? Maybe, but maybe the best thing that could have happened to him was getting hurt.
So we have 3 receivers (4 if you count Myers), two lineman (pretty sure we didn’t draft Barnes or Carlisle, I could be wrong about one of them), 3 defensive lineman (only one any good), 2 linebackers (one may be good), 2 running backs and 2 secondary on our current team. So, out of 24 possible starters (including punter and kicker, which is giving Al a gift), we have 15 homegrown. If all 15 out of that 24 were awesome, that MIGHT be an acceptable number. But they aren’t. And it isn’t.
And btw, I think the jury is still out on all of 2012 as well. It would be nice to be able to say at least 1 or 2 were definite keepers by this point in the season. Not sure you can say that. So the trend continues perhaps.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Devilr8er Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
You dont build the team around a 33yr old average qb. The guy is a garbage time all star.
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BINGO!!! Would have rather bombed last year with Boller, that trade set (1st and 2nd) set us back a year or two.
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Right, and those picks previously wasted on Wiz 2.0, Romac, DHB, DMAC, Jasyrup, MM34, Zach Miller, Fabian Washington, Routt, Gallery and so on? How long has that set us back? Many of these guys are gone, and the rest will follow suit
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Things I learned from today’s game…
Dennis Allen doesn’t drop passes, but DHB, Moore, and others SURE DO!
Dennis Allen doesn’t throw INTs, but Palmer SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t get blown off the line of scrimmage, but the Offensive Line SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t leave players uncovered, miss tackles, get personal fouls, and various other stupid sh!t, but the Defense SURE DOES!
This team is a train wreck of 3rd string talent… horrible.
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He is the Head Coach though, ne?
….
This is the thinking that got Al in trouble. If they have height and speed then Head Coach should be able to make them winners…
Only problem… NO COACH IN THE WORLD CAN TURN TURDS INTO NFL CALIBER FOOTBALL PLAYERS!
Dennis Allen may not be great(I wouldn’t know because its not fair to judge him based on the hot, steamy pile of mess he got when he took this job) but until there is some real talent on this team no coach will win.
And don’t tell me sh!t about Hue… 8-8 is not winning either.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Now the report is KRAPP is in charge of this team until the Denver game. New NFL record for worse loss in NFL history comeing up!!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
484.KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Things I learned from today’s game…
Dennis Allen doesn’t drop passes, but DHB, Moore, and others SURE DO!
Dennis Allen doesn’t throw INTs, but Palmer SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t get blown off the line of scrimmage, but the Offensive Line SURE DOES!
Dennis Allen doesn’t leave players uncovered, miss tackles, get personal fouls, and various other stupid sh!t, but the Defense SURE DOES!
This team is a train wreck of 3rd string talent… horrible.
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He is the Head Coach though, ne?
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He is, and look for him to have a large hand in helping McKenzie identify the players that want to be here and do actually contribute and do their jobs, and clearing out the rest to replace them with players that actually care about what they’re doing out there and can execute a game plan.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
weeden throw for 350 yards, really….
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
THE BLACKHOLE Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Trades after the season:
Palmer for late 1st or 2 rounder
Mcfadden for 2nd or 3rd
DHB for 4th
Rolando for 7th
Kelly,Shaunessy for 6th
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lolz, in Madden?
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I am tired of hearing crap about Palmer. The guy has played great. How many dropped passes or incorrect routes were there today? I am also tired of hearing the so called experts, King, Gannon etc suggest that the Raiders should move on without out him and go with a young guy. If you have a starting QB like Palmer, you can turn anything around in one year. Brady can’t move that well and he wins. We haven’t had a legit QB like Palmer since Jim Plunket.
Let’s face it the offense is ridiculous and predictable. And to make matters worse the coaching staff does not use the young talent. Try using split backs with Reece and McFadden. They are a lot better than C. Davis and Mark VanEagan. Flex one out run or pass based on defense. David Ausberry needs to play, maybe a two tight end look. Misdirection with receivers running and lining up in the backfield and playing screens. Power running with pulling lineman. The coaches do not want to play the fastest player on the team – T. Jones because of fumbling, let him fumble first then complain. I do like Stewart and he should remain. He is young and has good ball security, unlike Goodson.
The defense is plain bad. They need to move the ends around. Andre Carter is done. Bring on Crawford. They need a DT and a pass rusher at LB or DE. They are going to have to spend the money on a free safety. If they keep Wheeler they will need at least two more special LBs. Burris is good and Bartell is decent. Hanson is also good and needs to be resigned. It is time to part ways with Huff, Giradonno. Adams has looked good especially in bump-and-run, on the rare occasion that it is used.
Bottom Line we need Wade Phillips or a clone on D and Gruden back at the helm. But please it is time we appreciate Carson Palmer, I was a doubter last year, but he has been good on a team with no real number one receiver.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
“SHEEEEEEET. I’S gonna’s win’s wiff defense.SHEEEEEEEET”
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
does anyone know Palmers qb rating in the first quarter this year
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Brandon Weeden was 25-of-36 for 364 yards in the game.
how about this new modern defensive scheme….zone defense at its best.
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LOL!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
495.THE BLACKHOLE Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I’m happy we have become a “modern” team like the Chiefs and Jaguars and not have an out of date owner like the Bengals.
Are you happy about being an oranga loveing retard?
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Ohioraider Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The Al Apologist in Chief, Father Pride & Poise, would have us believe that problems with the coaching, player morale, and leadership are new issues, and if you read between the lines what you get–unsurprisingly–is a justification for the player first atmosphere that Al enforced. Still the same ol finger pointing at the coaches, who were ALWAYS guilty of letting Al down. But clearly, what we have on our hands now is a continuation of long standing problems with lack of discipline and lack of accountability, not to mention the thin talent on the roster. Not that McKenzie gets off the hook for the debacle, but you got to remember that it took Al 13 years to win a Super Bowl.
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A decade of wasted 1st rd picks will do that to any franchise.
Thanks Al.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lets leave the “1st rd” out of it. A DECADE of wasted picks. Who do we have from the last 10 years? Lets start w janikowski and lechler. Nvm that we burned a 1st and 4th on those guys, when nobody burns picks on kickers and punters like that, but at least they panned out. Can’t argue that. But who else? Houston comes to mind, ok for a second a guess. Certainly better than our first that year, suspendo. Branch? Pass. Huff? Not as a number 1, might consider him a good 3rd or 4th rounder. Veldheer? Yea. McFadden? No way, maybe if he could stay healthy, but no. Reece? Did we even draft him? Probably, not sure tho. To lazy to look it up. Wiz? Last year yea. This year? Looking like yet another in a long line of raider busts. Bey? Nope. Not a number 1. Moore? Last year for sure, this year doesn’t even look like he was worth a 4th. Ford? Maybe, but maybe the best thing that could have happened to him was getting hurt.
So we have 3 receivers (4 if you count Myers), two lineman (pretty sure we didn’t draft Barnes or Carlisle, I could be wrong about one of them), 3 defensive lineman (only one any good), 2 linebackers (one may be good), 2 running backs and 2 secondary on our current team. So, out of 24 possible starters (including punter and kicker, which is giving Al a gift), we have 15 homegrown. If all 15 out of that 24 were awesome, that MIGHT be an acceptable number. But they aren’t. And it isn’t.
And btw, I think the jury is still out on all of 2012 as well. It would be nice to be able to say at least 1 or 2 were definite keepers by this point in the season. Not sure you can say that. So the trend continues perhaps.
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Everything said in this thread is spot on. Overall, our players suck.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
This is obviously a lousy feeling but as RaiderRiff said; This is what you get with 10 years of horrible first and second round picks with very little focus on the line of scrimmage.
The good news is we continue to clean out the garbage (McClain will be gone after the season) and Reggie will build the team through the draft STARTING WITH BOTH LINES.
Yes we need help elsewhere but those of you old enough remember that the Raiders were built with high draft picks for the lines. Guys like 11th round Marv Hubbard simply pounded it behind first rounder Gene Upsahw and the other team did not get the ball.The other team usually tried to play catch up and we had guys like Keating and Davidson that could actually stop the run AND rush the passer.
Many keep saying that the game has changed. Tell that to Notre Dame.Win on the lines and you will win the game.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
I am a season ticket holder. Today’s tickets are still in the packet they came in. Nobody was interested so there they sit, wasted $228.00. I am NOT going to purchase season tickets until this team can prove that they can compete for the division! Does anybody want to buy the Denver slaughtering Raiders tickets? I will let you know!
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Tom Cable was an O-line coach; the On-line played good to great most of his tenure
Hue Jackson was an offensive coach; the offense played great 85% of the time
Dennis Allen is a defensive coach; the defense is among the worst in the league. Most points given up in a 4 game span since ‘67
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
ust Fire Baby Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
You WANT to see 3-13.
Here’s to a successful 9-game IMPLOSION…
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That ought to push season ticket sales for 2013. Will do wonders to sell jobs to new coaches and FA’s.
And no doubt will get the city to move on building a stadium.
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I live in Miami so I guess I should be more sensitive to the local stadium issue. To me I will admit, Oakland and LA are both ~2500mi away.
To your other points though, I don’t see it that way. Al is dead. We now pay the going price for coaches. Only 32 jobs there last time I checked. We have no issue here. Ditto for F/A. Players follow the $, nothing more or less. That said, I’d MUCH prefer see us rely more on our picks and less and less on crapshoot “free” (ha) agents. Rarely works. Best teams (GB, NYG,NE) build through the draft and LOW dollar street players. With the exception of Brees and a few select others, BIG dollar F/A are usually a big mistake. Then again, as a Raider fan I’m sure I don’t need to tell you about that…
Personally, I hope we trade what we can in January and February, and then trade down when it makes sense for the draft.
Sadly, I’ve seen all I need from DOA. I as hopeful in Septemeber. No more. He wasnt ready. Plain and simple. Shanahan 1989-esque. If they go 3-13 we don’t waste ANOTHER year since I really don’t think he is the answer.
9 game IMPLOSION will help move things along in that capacity and strengthen our 2013 draft.
Plus it will soften the pain of each loss we WILL be faced to endure.
Broncos will put up a 60 burger in 4 days. No doubt about it so get ready for it now.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
HUE AND AL 8-8 REGGIE AND DA 3-9. thank you for playing.DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRip
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Gannon hates the Raiders. It’s well documented. One thing he holds dear is having some Raider records. That’s why he’s so keen on getting Palmer out.
Believe me, it isn’t about concern for the Raiders and their future.
Peter King? He’s hated Palmer from Cincinnati days.
All the geniuses in here ignore a well rested defense giving up a 97 yd. drive in clutch time to the Cleveland freaking Browns.
Yes. Bad pick from Palmer, but people are blind to ignore the choke job from the defense.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Plank don’t even consider putting Wisniewski in with those scrubs; he was all rookie team, and has been solid (not spectacular), his first year and at center, with our regurgetated zone blocking scheme.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Plank don’t even consider putting Wisniewski in with those scrubs; he was all rookie team, and has been solid (not spectacular), his first year and at center, with our regurgetated zone blocking scheme.
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I could agree there easily, but he is by no means a world beater. I would prefer him at gaurd, not at center. I think Satele was just as good if not better.
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Raiders need an overhaul and picks,ala the Cowboys when they traded Hershell Walker accumulated picks and maded their SB run
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
exactly…see post 513
# devilr8er Says:
December 2nd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Raiders need an overhaul and picks,ala the Cowboys when they traded Hershell Walker accumulated picks and maded their SB run