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Final: Browns 20, Raiders 17

The Raiders problems have more to do with their play than the calendar.

Following a winless November, the Raiders fell 20-10 Sunday to the Cleveland Browns at O.co Coliseum in a battle between teams with identical 3-8 records and both desperate for a win.

The Raiders, 3-9, looked to be putting themselves in position for a chance to steal the game in the fourth quarter until Carson Palmer threw a deep sideline pass to Juron Criner that was intercepted by Sheldon Brown at the 6-yard line.

Oakland trailed 13-10 at the time and was coming off its best offensive and defensive sequence of the game, scoring on a 64-yard lightning bolt from Palmer to Rod Streater and then forcing a Browns punt at the 45-yard line.

The Raiders maneuvered to the Cleveland 33-yard line and had a first-and-10 when Palmer took a shot at Criner.

But instead of putting the ball high and toward the outside where only Criner could get it, Palmer’s pass was underthrown and to the inside, making it an easy interception for Brown with 9:31 remaining.

The Browns, 4-8, then took the ball at their own 6, got out of trouble with a third-and-3 pass from Brandon Weeden to Josh Gordon for 11 yards to the 24, and later had a 22-yard hookup from Weeden to tight end Benjamin Watson to the 46-yard line to kill precious time off the clock.

The Browns eventually finished off a 94-yard, 14-play drive with a 3-yard run by Trent Richardson with 3:27 left in the fourth quarter and consumed 6:04 in elapsed time.

The Raiders scored on a 17-yard pass from Palmer to tight end Brandon Myers with one second remaining. It was Myers’ 14th reception, tying Tim Brown for the franchise record for catches in a game.

For the Browns, it snapped a 12-game road losing streak that began last Oct. 16 wit a 24-17 loss to the Raiders at the Coliseum.

The 64-yard touchdown pass to Streater came after defensive tackle Desmond Bryant got his hand on a 28-yard Phil Dawson field goal attempt, redirecting it to miss to the left.

Dawson had field goals of 41 and 35 yards. Oakland only score other than the Streater touchdown was a 51-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski in the second quarter.

The Raiders’ problems giving up big plays on defense continued unabated, as Weeden completed 25 of 36 passes for 364 yards and a 44-yard touchdown to Josh Gordon. He had two interceptions, one by Matt Giordano and the other by Phillip Adams.

Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson each missed their fourth consecutive game after being declared inactive.

With a short week coming up and a Thursday night game at home against division-lading Denver, there is no guarantee they’ll be ready to play in the next game.

Quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who was active for the first time this season, did not get in the game for any specialty plays or packages.

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  • DJ Johnny

    388,

    They are speculating on the QB situation, but i’ve heard those same things too.

    I didn’t take it they were saying he would not be here.

    They are saying Raiders need to think about what they are gonna do.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Im just trying to tell you guys you will keep getting the same thing out of palmer.. doesnt matter.

    The guy had two playoff appearances from 2003 – 2010.

    Dalton is already on to his second one if they keep winning.

    EVen tebow has a playoff win one real year of starting. They were 1-4 before he came in and helped DA get noticed and get a job.

    like i said im just stating my OPINION

  • mcfadden20.

    JB Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.

    The season is over. Denver won the division & the playoffs are out of the question. Now is the time to hold tryouts for next year’s squad. The Denver defense will kill CP3 with our O-line & receivers. Put TP6 in there for the whole game. I don’t care if we win or not. Actually, I’d rather lose and improve our drafting position. Keep CP3 healthy because we may be trading him along with some others. It’s time to reload for next year. Let’s see who is worth keeping and go from there.

    I could have lived with Luck and Griffin and move forward, but why get rid of Palmer now, yes his arm is probably not same , you can help that out by keep run/pass ratio 50/50 but why trade him for average qb from college or average FA’s don’t make sense, unless you guys want to go 4-12 next year

  • DKnight007

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    I have.. Papa says its still in the air. Rich Gannon just said you have to decide if you are gonna build the team around palmer or gonna get a young guy. His words not mine.

    and Peter King (I know) says he will gonna be gone.

    and some AFC west blog dude Bill williamson says Raiders cant build the team with Palmer moving foward.

    That is 4

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Oh ok…get rid of Palmer and then build around which QB again??

    Again…same crap as last year….fire Hue…fire Hue without having a solid replacement in mind.

    Idiots!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Palmer cant even scramble for a first down

  • oldschoolraider

    Bartel is no better than Huff! Dude got toasted.
    Lately when I’m watching the Raiders play, it feels like I’m doing penance.

  • 2-14

    A real head coach would walk onto the field and rip Kelly’s captain patch off after the 3rd or 4th bonehead penalty. cut this slob already

  • Priesttj12

    These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.
    ******************************************
    Look around the league at all the bad teams and what is the one common denominator. Bad QB play and a lack of leadership other than that not much difference.

  • morilla

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    I have.. Papa says its still in the air. Rich Gannon just said you have to decide if you are gonna build the team around palmer or gonna get a young guy. His words not mine.

    and Peter King (I know) says he will gonna be gone.

    and some AFC west blog dude Bill williamson says Raiders cant build the team with Palmer moving foward.

    That is 4
    —————

    The harsh reality is you can’t. People thought he could cary the team but that is asking too much. No consistant WRs or defense.

    Face it, we weren’t built for Carson. He’s above our current level.

    We need to bring in some young talent and see what TP can do. And in no way will I ever blame CP for the Raiders losing ways.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    DiKnight, tell me again how the Warriors FK’d up letting J Lin go.

  • DKnight007

    It would be nice if we had the same effective running game as we did the last two years to keep pressure off Palmer.

    Oh wait that was when Hue Jackson was running the show.

    Ooops!

  • oldschoolraider

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    JB Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    These players are supposed to be professionals. Many are not playing that way – especially the WR’s! D-Wow has been downgraded to DMoore. DHB is a good #4 WR at best. We have no #1 or #2 WR. If the Patriots can run with dual TE’s and a slot receiver why aren’t we trying the same thing? Especially in view of our inability to catch the ball by the WR’s. Yes, Palmer made a dumb throw for an INT. Yes, it killed the momentum. It would not have come to that if the WR’s started catching the balls that are hitting them in the hands and if CP3 has more than 2 seconds to throw he ball. Just my opinion.

    The season is over. Denver won the division & the playoffs are out of the question. Now is the time to hold tryouts for next year’s squad. The Denver defense will kill CP3 with our O-line & receivers. Put TP6 in there for the whole game. I don’t care if we win or not. Actually, I’d rather lose and improve our drafting position. Keep CP3 healthy because we may be trading him along with some others. It’s time to reload for next year. Let’s see who is worth keeping and go from there.

    I could have lived with Luck and Griffin and move forward, but why get rid of Palmer now, yes his arm is probably not same , you can help that out by keep run/pass ratio 50/50 but why trade him for average qb from college or average FA’s don’t make sense, unless you guys want to go 4-12 next year
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    D Moore? try D Less

  • CanuckRaider

    Back the bus up and start loading it!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    they need to change the locks as soon as DA leaves the office…

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    edward teach Says:
    There are folks that will point to the INT and say that Carson lost the game for the Raiders on that one play.

    Trouble is, there were at least ten critical plays on offense alone where Palmer did his job just fine and somebody else gacked it up. Those mistakes cost the team first downs and points. ============================

    Typical, running to make excuses for your golden haired hero throwing yet another bone headed back breaking int. while trying to pad his career stats with TP suited up and ready to come save the day. DA and all of you have an agenda and it’s not hard to see what it is. Even that uncle ton Lorezo Neal gave the game ball to Myers! The trickinologists have all you cats snowed. I’m out. Peace.

  • mcfadden20.

    The Mack Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Post 367 you think Dmac has peaked at 25? Lmao yea you trade him and watch him set recordse with a real team and be mad. Truth is he hasnt reached his peak while guys like Stewart ceilings are real low, you guys are all ready to cream on yourselves on a couple good runs but Dmac has been great for years and he showed you what he was capable of last year. Only a fool would trade him for peanuts.

    Dude just get over it, if we’re going with ZBS we can find our self a nice RB that will fit in fine with the scheme, A Foster was undrafted , top 5 RB in league, A Morris was also undrafted or late round picks , doing pretty well in washington, there are other guys who exceed in zbs and weren’t drafted really high

  • dorian gray

    im seriously tired of every guy on the team .. is it possible we can cut all 60 players ? im serious.. i dont care if the whole team is rookies,,,

  • DKnight007

    Yeah build with a young QB with Knapps whack azz offensive system and zero running game??

  • morilla

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    they need to change the locks as soon as DA leaves the office…
    ——-

    And the locks on the doors to the locker room.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws COMPLETE, 2nd and 10.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws………………… COMPLETE, 2nd and 10.

  • dorian gray

    screw it.. change the uniforms too,,, the lions upgraded and they dont suck as much.. change the slogans,.. give the entire defense adderall… do something hell!!!!!!!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    #1 pick is within our graps

  • morilla

    Dorian Gray Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
    im seriously tired of every guy on the team .. is it possible we can cut all 60 players ? im serious.. i dont care if the whole team is rookies,,,
    ——–

    I’m right there with you. Trust me, this current roster is scrapped.

  • dorian gray

    all u low i.q. having raider fans add me on facebook.. dorian marchel gray .. now dexter is on.. die dennis allens father die.!! goodnight raider nation

  • Al_is_theraiders

    ten and then….

  • mcfadden20.

    Well have fun guys, I’m out, later Al_the_troll

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws………………… COMPLETE, Incredible catch! 2nd and 10.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    KK is your needle stuck ?

  • morilla

    Dorian Gray Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
    all u low i.q. having raider fans add me on facebook.. dorian marchel gray .. now dexter is on.. die dennis allens father die.!! goodnight raider nation
    ———-

    Actaully I’m not right there with you after that comment. You are on the ignore list.

  • 2-14

    KoolKell Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
    1st and 10, Palmer drops back, throws………………… COMPLETE, Incredible catch! 2nd and 10.
    __
    you forgot, napp and DA exchanging high fives and gay smiles on the sideline

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I saw plenty of run game there today.. the thing is you must COMMIT to it.

    Allen said the running stop because plays were coming out of Palmers NO HUDDLE OFFENSE

  • dorian gray

    lol.. kool kell u stupid ,, take yo senile meds now

  • CanuckRaider

    Against the Browns yet…Oh, the shame of it all…

  • Al_is_theraiders

    reggies calling you mcxcuse20….

  • Just Fire Baby

    This team just doesn’t know how to win.

    Starting first and foremost with the QB.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    oak r8r…you like this krapp? 3-13 is good for you…lmao, effin stupid…

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Yea. I like this. Learn how to read before you talk to me. Didn’t ever say I liked what was going on. Just saying I’m not an idiot like you looking to blow everything up every 8 games. Sure, management and coaching has made plenty of mistakes. I never said I was happy about any of it. But only a complete moron would think that the best management abc coaching staffs in the history of the NFL could win more than 7 or 8 games w these check cashing bums. I’m just so sick of your glory day bullshlt. If your not at least 35 you have probably not seen more than 2 successful raider seasons. TWO!!!!! These guys, morons they might be, might not be, have had 8 months.

  • 2-14

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    This team just doesn’t know how to win.

    Starting first and foremost with the QB.
    __

    i would say the coaching staff has more to do with it

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I know its crazy you would think we were talking about just losing to the pats.

    IT was the freaking 3-8 BROWNS LOL.. my goodness. who cares at this point

  • THE BLACKHOLE

    As of week 13

    Philadelphia* 3-8
    Oakland 3-9
    Carolina 3-9
    Jacksonville 2-10
    Kansas City 2-10
    —————————————————
    I see Oak going 3-13, Eagles 3-13, KC going 4-12, Jags 4-12, Panthers 5-11.

    So the raiders are going to either have the 1st or second pick in the draft and we all know that the rams were able to get 3 first round draft picks and a second rounder.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Plenty of over culprits, but when we need Carson the most, he comes up small.

    How do you underthrow that on 1st and 10?

    He’s like that pitcher that only hangs one curveball a game, only that is a 1-1 curveball to the cleanup hitter with 2 on.

    You know how that goes.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Dorian Gray Says:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    lol.. kool kell u stupid ,, take yo senile meds now
    ———————-
    Sorry, I’ll take a pill.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    #Raiders are 1-9 when Carson Palmer throws for more than 300 yards

    Retweeted by Vic Tafur

  • devilr8er

    ready for the thursday night massacre

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    u would think the coaching staff knows that stat by no and stick by the run game

  • Just Fire Baby

    i would say the coaching staff has more to do with it

    ************************

    Seems like a player issue to me.

    Last TD of the game, they don’t even block Matt S and run it right at him.

    What kind of DE doesn’t get blocked and still can’t get a hit on the RB?

    These guys all stink. 80% of them.

  • denverraider

    Been a Palmer fan in general, given the available options, but this one is on him. Without that pick, raiders win. 500 yards or not, browns only had 20 points. You can’t lose to the browns at home against 20. Drops, play calling we’re an issue, but Palmer three that pick at the worst time. Shades of Kerry Collins-always the pick at the worst possible time.

  • fingers

    Just saw the Thursday night game promo…..Raiders primed to upset the Division rivals the Broncos……………….. really?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Raiders 40, Broncos 0

    Print that.!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    thats what im saying PALMER reminds me of KERRY COLLINS back with the Raiders