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Postgame notes, quotes and observations

The Raiders on Sunday lost their fifth straight game. In the process, they were mathematically eliminated from playoff contention and assured a losing record for the eighth time in 10 seasons.
The Raiders can’t catch the Colts, who won their eighth game of the season Sunday. The best the Raiders could do is to win their final four games and finish 7-9.
The Steelers and Bengals already are at seven victories, and they play each other one more time. That guarantees that one of them will finish ahead of the Raiders, too.
So, it’s on to 2013 for the Raiders on the heels of their 20-17 loss to the Cleveland Browns and the end of their hopes for their first playoff berth in 10 seasons.
“There’s nowhere to go but up, unfortunately,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “The good thing is, we get to play fast. We don’t have to think about it for very long. We got to start focusing tonight, we have to start watching tape tonight.
“See what Denver does, see how much they’ve changed since the last time we played them. Nothing cures a five-game skid like a win at home on Thursday night against a team like that.”
Modifying goals and lowering expectations are not what the Raiders envisioned after only 12 games. Yet, that’s what they’re reduced to doing in light of a 3-9 record.
Free safety/cornerback Michael Huff talked about the Raiders having a top-five-caliber defense at the start of the season.
And now?
“It’s like it’s the same — can’t stop the run, can’t stop the pass,” Huff said. “Things just aren’t going well on defense. Right now, I guess we’re just a bad defense. We can’t really hide it. At this point, the numbers don’t really allow it. We’re just bad right now.”
The Raiders had to feel good about playing a Browns team that entered with a similar 3-8 record and a string of 12 straight road losses.
Yet, the Browns pretty much controlled the game from the outset, leading the entire way and surviving a brief scare from the Raiders early in the fourth quarter.
That threat ended with a Palmer pass that was intercepted and an ensuing drive that yielded a Browns touchdown.
That Browns drive began at their own 6-yard line. It ended 14 plays later with rookie running back Trent Richardson breezing into the end zone on a 3-yard run.
“When you have them first-and-94, we have to make a stop,” Allen said. “There was a critical third down in that series that they converted to keep the drive alive. Third down overall in the game was pretty good defensively. That was a critical play in the game. We have to find a way to get off the field and stop them in those situations.”
Now the Raiders have to find a way to build some momentum heading into the offseason, when Allen, general manager Reggie McKenzie and owner Mark Davis continue the process of making over the roster.
They hoped this season would end with a playoff berth and run at a Super Bowl title. Instead, it died a painful death Sunday, with four games to play.

– Tight end Brandon Myers’ breakout season got a whole lot better Sunday.
He caught 14 passes for 130 yards against the Browns. The 14 receptions tied the franchise mark set by wide receiver Tim Brown in 1997.
“Brandon has done a nice job for us in the passing game,” Allen said. “Obviously, our quarterback feels comfortable with him. I’m not really looking for silver linings right now but, yeah, he’s done a nice job for us.”
Time and again, Palmer looked for Myers whenever a play broke down or other receivers weren’t open. Time and again, Myers made the play. He caught all but one pass thrown his way.
Palmer said Myers has the ability to do the right thing more times than not, which leads Palmer to look Myers’ way quite often, as he did on the final Raiders drive that resulted in a touchdown by Myers.
“He’s just a good football player,” Palmer said. “He makes plays. He gets open. He really understands what we’re trying to do as an offense. He understands how to get open. He understands defenses. He understands coverages and seems to always kind of find an open spot.
“Just, naturally, you don’t teach that. You don’t coach that. That’s just, you either got it or you don’t. And he’s got a lot of it.”

– Allen conducted his postgame news conference, got dressed in a hurry and was escorted to a waiting car for a ride to the Oakland Airport so that he could get to Texas to be with his ailing father.
A team spokesman said Allen is expected to be back in time to rejoin the team Wednesday and coach the Thursday night game against the Denver Broncos.
Here’s to hoping that Allen’s father makes a speedy recovery and that Allen’s visit helps in that process.
In the interim, Allen appointed offensive coordinator Greg Knapp as the coach to oversee practice during his absence.

– Allen confirmed that he benched wide receiver Denarius Moore and cornerback Ron Bartell for a spell because of inconsistent play.
Bartell was replaced by Phillip Adams, who intercepted a pass but was forced from the game with a head injury.
Moore was replaced by rookie Rod Streater down the stretch after failing to hold on to several catchable passes.
“Yeah, took him out there at the end,” Allen said of Moore. “Dropped a couple balls, and we got to make plays when you’ve got opportunities. Both those guys. It wasn’t from a lack of effort, but we’ve got to make plays when we’ve got an opportunity.”
Streater finished with three catches for 96 yards, including a 64-yard touchdown.

– Quarterback Terrelle Pryor was active for Sunday’s game, the first time he was in uniform for a regular-season game in 12 games this season.
Maybe now that the Raiders are out of the playoffs picture, Allen and McKenzie will do more than allow Pryor to stand on the sideline in his uniform.
Pryor didn’t play Sunday, and he still hasn’t attempted a pass in his two NFL seasons. He was on the field for one botched play his rookie season, when he got called for a false start.
McKenzie said he wants to see Pryor play so that he can get a better feel for what Pryor can do in a real game.
It says here that now is the perfect time to do so. The Raiders have four otherwise meaningless games left. They need to see what Pryor can do, as well as other young, inexperienced players such as running back Taiwan Jones and defensive back Brandian Ross.

– The Browns converted only 3 of 11 third-down plays into first downs, yet they amassed 475 yards offense.
Among those yards, rookie quarterback Brandon Weeden passes for a career-high 364 yards, while being sacked only once in 37 dropbacks.

– The Raiders committed 10 penalties for 65 yards Sunday, while the Browns were flagged only twice for 25.
Naturally, several of the penalties came at the worst time for the Raiders.
On one play, defensive tackle Desmond Bryant jumped offsides on a third-and-one play from the Raiders 10-yard line in the fourth quarter. The Browns scored a game-clinching touchdown two plays later.

– Allen said running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson came close to being ready to play Sunday. In the end, he opted to give them a few more days’ rest on their high-ankle sprains.
“I would expect both of those guys to be able to play on Thursday night,” Allen said. “We tested them out. They just weren’t quite ready to go. I’d hope they’d be ready for Thursday night.”

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  • mcfadden20.

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    You guys always think coaching makes difference blah, blah , but don’t you guys think those coaches brought their own players to that team?
    ========

    Its actually both, but fail to realize our team as REGRESSED under DA.

    LMAO WHO Was having all pro season before ? HAHAHA, besides the running game which is on KNapp, who would be fired after the end of the year

  • DMAC

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Fair enough
    Now tell me how the team is playing under DA?
    =====================================

    What I saw yesterday? I saw a team that competed. They did not get “blown out”.
    ========

    They played the schit stains which we haven’t lost 2 at home in years!!!!
    LMAO

  • inonewordraider

    kc played inspired ball, maybe we need…. oh never mind

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Mcfadden 20…are youon twitter with the same handle? Just asking…


    No, bro, No facebook or Twitter for me

    Oh ok, there was this one girl that said she was married to @mcfadden20…that’s why I asked.

    – oh no, I’m not married lol
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Smart man. Too bad you are not smart enough to understand that pass rush in not the main problem. lol(joking)
    1- coaching
    2- lack of impact players/ talent

  • The_Judge37

    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    What has DA shown you guys to secure another season?
    What?

    =====

    Cable said he would fix the penalty problem. Hue swore that he would fix the penalty problem. They both failed miserably.

    DA said he would tackle the penalty issue. He did, in his first year, despite the decade of culture to do otherwise. That one success alone proves that he can get tough things done that others have failed at. It gives him another year in my book to see what he can do with some perpuation of the culture he has started to plant.

  • DMAC

    Not saying that we have a great talent on the roster but………

    Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo all of a sudden all are players just REGRESSED after 1 season???????

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Should of kept Mike Brownn for CONTINUITY!!!!
    ——

    Boom-Shaka-Laka
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL

  • mcfadden20.

    You see , Cable would have struggled with the team if he was not with the team year before , even Hue would have struggled too , he had all the offseason to lament what needed to change, that’s why continuity is important, sometimes you don’t need to change the head coach, changing OC and bring in pass rushers next year would do wonders

  • DMAC

    Raider O Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Should of kept Mike Brownn for CONTINUITY!!!!
    ——

    Boom-Shaka-Laka
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    ==========

    Should of kept him around for another 5 years before we called him a bust a LA.

  • The_Judge37

    When we lost to the Browns, i thought to myself it couldn’t be worse. Then i find out this morning that Greg Knapp is the coach. Real funny God

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

    =====

    They also have the best defensive weapon that they’ve had in years this season: Peyton. Contrasted to the Tebow 3 and out circus, Peyton keeps the defense off the field and reduces the chances to move the bal against them.

    It’s also worth mentioning that when DA took over the Denver defense, they were ranked like 31st and he moved them up 10 notches as a rookie DC. Whose to say that they aren’t still running a majority of the scheme that he put in place and honing it after a year of it under their belt?

  • mcfadden20.

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

    == They were 20th cuz they had freaking Tim tebow going 3 n outs, don’t you think P Manning makes a difference?

  • Dan78

    Maybe Reggie’s gut will tell him to hireJack Del Rio…

  • The_Judge37

    Zymurge Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    What has DA shown you guys to secure another season?
    What?

    =====

    Cable said he would fix the penalty problem. Hue swore that he would fix the penalty problem. They both failed miserably.

    DA said he would tackle the penalty issue. He did, in his first year, despite the decade of culture to do otherwise. That one success alone proves that he can get tough things done that others have failed at. It gives him another year in my book to see what he can do with some perpuation of the culture he has started to plant.
    ———

    When you put it like that, I guess i’d be okay with double digit penalties per game again

  • DMAC

    Zymurge Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    What has DA shown you guys to secure another season?
    What?

    =====

    Cable said he would fix the penalty problem. Hue swore that he would fix the penalty problem. They both failed miserably.

    DA said he would tackle the penalty issue. He did, in his first year, despite the decade of culture to do otherwise. That one success alone proves that he can get tough things done that others have failed at. It gives him another year in my book to see what he can do with some perpuation of the culture he has started to plant.
    ========

    1. Started the season w/ replacement refs.
    2. Stanford Routt is no longer around
    3. False Start Barnes has been injured most of the year

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Hey Mcfadden20: Jinx! :-)

  • The_Judge37

    Zymurge Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

    =====

    They also have the best defensive weapon that they’ve had in years this season: Peyton. Contrasted to the Tebow 3 and out circus, Peyton keeps the defense off the field and reduces the chances to move the bal against them.

    It’s also worth mentioning that when DA took over the Denver defense, they were ranked like 31st and he moved them up 10 notches as a rookie DC. Whose to say that they aren’t still running a majority of the scheme that he put in place and honing it after a year of it under their belt?
    ———

    Also safe to say that John Fox had something to do with that also.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    not unless he plays safety…

  • The_Judge37

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

    == They were 20th cuz they had freaking Tim tebow going 3 n outs, don’t you think P Manning makes a difference?
    ——-

    They actually controlled the clock with Tebow

  • inonewordraider

    Cable said he would fix the penalty problem. Hue swore that he would fix the penalty problem. They both failed miserably.

    DA said he would tackle the penalty issue. He did, in his first year, despite the decade of culture to do otherwise. That one success alone proves that he can get tough things done that others have failed at. It gives him another year in my book to see what he can do with some perpuation of the culture he has started to plant
    _______
    very good point

    my counterpoint is if there is a better guy available don’t you go after him?

    reggie of course has the say and i could have read into it wrong but he didn’t seem happy with any aspect and sounded like he wanted to see how the season played out, losing to cleveland who hasn’t won on the road in 12 games doesn’t help DA’s case

  • DMAC

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

    == They were 20th cuz they had freaking Tim tebow going 3 n outs, don’t you think P Manning makes a difference?
    =======
    The coaching staff in Dungver gets it.
    You utilize the players that you have the best way you can to get production out of them.
    We have some sorry ass coaches.

  • Dan78

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    Zymurge Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    What has DA shown you guys to secure another season?
    What?

    =====

    Cable said he would fix the penalty problem. Hue swore that he would fix the penalty problem. They both failed miserably.

    DA said he would tackle the penalty issue. He did, in his first year, despite the decade of culture to do otherwise. That one success alone proves that he can get tough things done that others have failed at. It gives him another year in my book to see what he can do with some perpuation of the culture he has started to plant.
    ========

    1. Started the season w/ replacement refs.
    2. Stanford Routt is no longer around
    3. False Start Barnes has been injured most of the year
    ——-
    Dont forget not as much man coverage = less Pass interference

  • 2romes

    DA Tackled the penalty issue? More delusions.

  • The_Judge37

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    Raider O Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Should of kept Mike Brownn for CONTINUITY!!!!
    ——

    Boom-Shaka-Laka
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    ==========

    Should of kept him around for another 5 years before we called him a bust a LA.
    ——-

    Worked out well for Cleveland

  • Marks hair

    No it became a rebuild the second we signed jemarcus Russell instead of Calvin Johnson

  • DMAC

    Dan78 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    Zymurge Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    What has DA shown you guys to secure another season?
    What?

    =====

    Cable said he would fix the penalty problem. Hue swore that he would fix the penalty problem. They both failed miserably.

    DA said he would tackle the penalty issue. He did, in his first year, despite the decade of culture to do otherwise. That one success alone proves that he can get tough things done that others have failed at. It gives him another year in my book to see what he can do with some perpuation of the culture he has started to plant.
    ========

    1. Started the season w/ replacement refs.
    2. Stanford Routt is no longer around
    3. False Start Barnes has been injured most of the year
    ——-
    Dont forget not as much man coverage = less Pass interference
    =======
    Thanx
    That should be #4

  • mcfadden20.

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    DA as a DC had the Donkeys ranked 20th. Now that he’s gone, they’re in the top 10

    == They were 20th cuz they had freaking Tim tebow going 3 n outs, don’t you think P Manning makes a difference?
    ——-

    They actually controlled the clock with Tebow

    No, he was goin running running running, first down, running, running , incomplete pass , punt, yeah ofcourse the game is shortened when you are running the ball, but the point is their D kept them in games and gave Tebow a chance to beat the other team

  • DMAC

    Gotta run players
    Go A’s!
    Go Dubs!
    Go Cal Bears! (hire Hue)
    Go Raiders! (DA must go)
    Stay smoking my friends
    Peace

  • mcfadden20.

    Marks hair Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    No it became a rebuild the second we signed jemarcus Russell instead of Calvin Johnson

    The old man had dreams of Elway because he fell in love with Jamarcus arm and just drafted him , did he give him a WR? nope, did he give him Oline help nope? coaching continuity? Jamarcus RUssel wasn’t going to do anything but still AL D didn’t know the meaning of Rebuild, he just always thought if he could bring this big time guy his team will get over the hump , hence the Moss trade, Seymour trade

  • mcfadden20.

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Gotta run players
    Go A’s!
    Go Dubs!
    Go Cal Bears! (hire Hue)
    Go Raiders! (DA must go)
    Stay smoking my friends
    Peace

    ===
    Later

  • The_Judge37

    No, he was goin running running running, first down, running, running , incomplete pass , punt, yeah ofcourse the game is shortened when you are running the ball, but the point is their D kept them in games and gave Tebow a chance to beat the other team
    ———

    That’s what i used to justify this hiring to myself at the begining of the season, they kept the Donks in the game. That weak $h!t don’t fly anymore now that an already horrible defense just got worse. An average offense over acheaving is now a garbage offense that is under acheaving

  • Dan78

    To the guy who was talking to Reggie yesterday, can you ask him what’s his thoughts on the draft prospects. Throw some names out.

  • 2romes

    Mark’s/Reggie/DA philosophy is lets hit rock bottom and then the Raiders can only go up from there.

  • The_Judge37

    2romes Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Mark’s/Reggie/DA philosophy is lets hit rock bottom and then the Raiders can only go up from there.
    ——

    Greg Knapps philosophy: “Darkness, let’s go to the Abyss”

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Smoking & Posting. S&P Amigo!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Pro Football Weekly: Jon Gruden in line to rejoin the Raiders in a “prominent” role

    “Jon Gruden has been out of the NFL since his abrupt firing by the Buccaneers in 2008, when inside sources said the players turned against his hard coaching style. Known for his admiration of John Madden, many executives around the league believed Gruden was destined for a prime-time role in the broadcast booth and would seek to spend the rest of his career there, capitalizing on the naming rights involved with the video gaming world that reportedly have generated more than $100 million for Madden. While spending the past three seasons working for ESPN on Monday nights, Gruden also has not stopped spending extensive time grilling and getting to know the next batch of quarterbacks to come through the NFL in his annual “Gruden’s QB Camp” series, logic would indicate, in preparation for the next coaching opportunity. The latest scuttlebutt in the league has Gruden, on the brink of turning age 50, in line to rejoin the Raiders’ organization in a prominent role. The franchise’s downturn can be traced directly back to his departure a decade ago, he has a relationship with GM Reggie McKenzie from their time together in Green Bay and he has an even better understanding of the infrastructure in Oakland and the Al Davis brand of football than anyone in football. With more autonomy to run the organization how he sees fit, adapting a model that Davis taught him, Gruden is very well-positioned to resurrect a faitering franchise that went 0-for-November and has yet to win a game since owner Mark Davis put everyone on notice and said he was not pleased with the direction of the team.”

    From Profootballweekly SOURCE

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/12/03/stafford-suffers-from-shotgun-overload

    ————————————————

    SO none of you guys saw this this morning? I told you guys when GRUDEN came back to light the torch he spent 3 days with MARK DAVIS

    PPL here were saying I needed to get over the GRUDEN thing and he wasnt coming back. Now a respected website in the game has heard this rumor. Im not saying its true..but where there is smoke there is FIYAHHHH!!

    ive been saying to get GRUDEN as PRESIDENT OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS

  • MarcusAllen

    MarcusAllen Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Gruden took a 4-12 team to 8-8.

    Showed improvement and the next year also went 8-8 and lost many by only a couple points.

    Anyone watching could see the intensity of those 8-8 teams.

    It doesn’t matter the team was Loaded you can also bet the teams hands werem’t tied due to salary cap atleast not yet until AL’s later years he kept trading draft picks and giving big contracts, when he needed to just rebuild after 03 year
    ——–

    Keep the excuses rolling!

    I don’t care this team isn’t loaded – they don’t show intensity or progress. They got just rolled by the browns at home with Weeden and a coaching staff looking at pink slips.

  • mcfadden20.

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    No, he was goin running running running, first down, running, running , incomplete pass , punt, yeah ofcourse the game is shortened when you are running the ball, but the point is their D kept them in games and gave Tebow a chance to beat the other team
    ———

    That’s what i used to justify this hiring to myself at the begining of the season, they kept the Donks in the game. That weak $h!t don’t fly anymore now that an already horrible defense just got worse. An average offense over acheaving is now a garbage offense that is under acheaving


    I will buy the O regressing, actually they have gotten better at running the ball even without a star running back, now they just have stupid play caller, gets away from the run game, and have the stupid receivers dropping the ball, but we didn’t see that last year because Hue kept the balance and didn’t expose how horrible our receivers are with 50+_ passing attempts in a close game, the D is another story, it’s not like we could have built our scheme around certain player, we couldn’t go 3-4 or 4-3 Got we got a few 3-4 playerz on the team McClain and Seymour than have certain players playing out of position,( Houston ) Kelly, Seymour, Wimbley = over 20 sacks combined, Kelly (more mileage on the body, year older,Seymour same as kelly can’t even practice cuz of sore knees, wimbley (not here because he was paid like a defensive player of the year

  • mcfadden20.

    MarcusAllen Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    MarcusAllen Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Gruden took a 4-12 team to 8-8.

    Showed improvement and the next year also went 8-8 and lost many by only a couple points.

    Anyone watching could see the intensity of those 8-8 teams.

    It doesn’t matter the team was Loaded you can also bet the teams hands werem’t tied due to salary cap atleast not yet until AL’s later years he kept trading draft picks and giving big contracts, when he needed to just rebuild after 03 year
    ——–

    Keep the excuses rolling!

    I don’t care this team isn’t loaded – they don’t show intensity or progress. They got just rolled by the browns at home with Weeden and a coaching staff looking at pink slips.


    What intensity or progress did you see in team in last 6 games of last year with a lot on the line? Barely beat KC team in week 16 with every thing to play for lol

  • RaidingTexas

    What’s the “vicious rumor” in Raider Nation? 95.7 just teased it. Anyone heard something? It’s supposedly pretty good.

  • The_Judge37

    The D is garbage, we can agree. And i didn’t expect much from it this year. But to be fair, Reggie did add the most to this D, with Bartell, Spencer, GB practice Squad, Wheeler, Bilukidi, Burris, Crawford, etc…. while all budget picks i know, still have all failed to produce even the slightest improvement.

  • The_Judge37

    What intensity or progress did you see in team in last 6 games of last year with a lot on the line? Barely beat KC team in week 16 with every thing to play for lol
    ——-

    No lack of Talent pass for Hue?

  • Dakota

    1434.DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    J Hill Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Look at the sorry arsse Lakers, lol.

    D’Antonio is no better than Brown. You know why? Because we STILL have an issue at PG.

    Darrius Morris????

    LMFAO

    Translate that to the Raiders.

    Branch and Gio?????

    LMFAO
    ========

    You need a coach!!!!
    Just like our Oakland Raiders need a coach.

    Should of kept Mike Brownn for CONTINUITY!!!!

    ++++++++++++++

    WE WANTED PHIL!
    WE WANTED PHIL!

    JIM BUSS IS A TARD!

    WE WANTED PHIL!

    D’Antoni isn’t even as good as Bernie B!

    What a joke.

  • RaidingTexas

    The_Judge37 Says:

    No lack of Talent pass for Hue?

    —————————————–

    Apparently not. He’s gone. Why can’t you move on from that?

  • mcfadden20.

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    The D is garbage, we can agree. And i didn’t expect much from it this year. But to be fair, Reggie did add the most to this D, with Bartell, Spencer, GB practice Squad, Wheeler, Bilukidi, Burris, Crawford, etc…. while all budget picks i know, still have all failed to produce even the slightest improvemen

    Same sh1t man, there isn’t a big time signing, you can’t expect to get better players with late round picks and 1 year contracts

  • Marks hair

    I don’t know what your idea of a rebuild is then.. Al Davis replaced the head coach brought in a rookie quarterback I believe gallery was brought in around that time as well… We completely gutted the Superbowl team and the replacements that we tried to glue the Superbowl team back together with, but our rebuild didn’t work because jawalrus and most all of als draft picks and fas are complete garbage ..

  • MarcusAllen

    I’m not talking about last year – that’s done and over with. There’s many new players and new staff. I only look at this year period.

    What does DA hang his hat on? What? No excuses – just what has improved?

  • Dakota

    WE WANT JON!

    WE WANT JON!

    WE WANT JON!

  • Dan78

    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    What’s the “vicious rumor” in Raider Nation? 95.7 just teased it. Anyone heard something? It’s supposedly pretty good.
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    Any word on that rumor?