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Postgame notes, quotes and observations

By Steve Corkran
Sunday, December 2nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders on Sunday lost their fifth straight game. In the process, they were mathematically eliminated from playoff contention and assured a losing record for the eighth time in 10 seasons.
The Raiders can’t catch the Colts, who won their eighth game of the season Sunday. The best the Raiders could do is to win their final four games and finish 7-9.
The Steelers and Bengals already are at seven victories, and they play each other one more time. That guarantees that one of them will finish ahead of the Raiders, too.
So, it’s on to 2013 for the Raiders on the heels of their 20-17 loss to the Cleveland Browns and the end of their hopes for their first playoff berth in 10 seasons.
“There’s nowhere to go but up, unfortunately,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “The good thing is, we get to play fast. We don’t have to think about it for very long. We got to start focusing tonight, we have to start watching tape tonight.
“See what Denver does, see how much they’ve changed since the last time we played them. Nothing cures a five-game skid like a win at home on Thursday night against a team like that.”
Modifying goals and lowering expectations are not what the Raiders envisioned after only 12 games. Yet, that’s what they’re reduced to doing in light of a 3-9 record.
Free safety/cornerback Michael Huff talked about the Raiders having a top-five-caliber defense at the start of the season.
And now?
“It’s like it’s the same — can’t stop the run, can’t stop the pass,” Huff said. “Things just aren’t going well on defense. Right now, I guess we’re just a bad defense. We can’t really hide it. At this point, the numbers don’t really allow it. We’re just bad right now.”
The Raiders had to feel good about playing a Browns team that entered with a similar 3-8 record and a string of 12 straight road losses.
Yet, the Browns pretty much controlled the game from the outset, leading the entire way and surviving a brief scare from the Raiders early in the fourth quarter.
That threat ended with a Palmer pass that was intercepted and an ensuing drive that yielded a Browns touchdown.
That Browns drive began at their own 6-yard line. It ended 14 plays later with rookie running back Trent Richardson breezing into the end zone on a 3-yard run.
“When you have them first-and-94, we have to make a stop,” Allen said. “There was a critical third down in that series that they converted to keep the drive alive. Third down overall in the game was pretty good defensively. That was a critical play in the game. We have to find a way to get off the field and stop them in those situations.”
Now the Raiders have to find a way to build some momentum heading into the offseason, when Allen, general manager Reggie McKenzie and owner Mark Davis continue the process of making over the roster.
They hoped this season would end with a playoff berth and run at a Super Bowl title. Instead, it died a painful death Sunday, with four games to play.

– Tight end Brandon Myers’ breakout season got a whole lot better Sunday.
He caught 14 passes for 130 yards against the Browns. The 14 receptions tied the franchise mark set by wide receiver Tim Brown in 1997.
“Brandon has done a nice job for us in the passing game,” Allen said. “Obviously, our quarterback feels comfortable with him. I’m not really looking for silver linings right now but, yeah, he’s done a nice job for us.”
Time and again, Palmer looked for Myers whenever a play broke down or other receivers weren’t open. Time and again, Myers made the play. He caught all but one pass thrown his way.
Palmer said Myers has the ability to do the right thing more times than not, which leads Palmer to look Myers’ way quite often, as he did on the final Raiders drive that resulted in a touchdown by Myers.
“He’s just a good football player,” Palmer said. “He makes plays. He gets open. He really understands what we’re trying to do as an offense. He understands how to get open. He understands defenses. He understands coverages and seems to always kind of find an open spot.
“Just, naturally, you don’t teach that. You don’t coach that. That’s just, you either got it or you don’t. And he’s got a lot of it.”

– Allen conducted his postgame news conference, got dressed in a hurry and was escorted to a waiting car for a ride to the Oakland Airport so that he could get to Texas to be with his ailing father.
A team spokesman said Allen is expected to be back in time to rejoin the team Wednesday and coach the Thursday night game against the Denver Broncos.
Here’s to hoping that Allen’s father makes a speedy recovery and that Allen’s visit helps in that process.
In the interim, Allen appointed offensive coordinator Greg Knapp as the coach to oversee practice during his absence.

– Allen confirmed that he benched wide receiver Denarius Moore and cornerback Ron Bartell for a spell because of inconsistent play.
Bartell was replaced by Phillip Adams, who intercepted a pass but was forced from the game with a head injury.
Moore was replaced by rookie Rod Streater down the stretch after failing to hold on to several catchable passes.
“Yeah, took him out there at the end,” Allen said of Moore. “Dropped a couple balls, and we got to make plays when you’ve got opportunities. Both those guys. It wasn’t from a lack of effort, but we’ve got to make plays when we’ve got an opportunity.”
Streater finished with three catches for 96 yards, including a 64-yard touchdown.

– Quarterback Terrelle Pryor was active for Sunday’s game, the first time he was in uniform for a regular-season game in 12 games this season.
Maybe now that the Raiders are out of the playoffs picture, Allen and McKenzie will do more than allow Pryor to stand on the sideline in his uniform.
Pryor didn’t play Sunday, and he still hasn’t attempted a pass in his two NFL seasons. He was on the field for one botched play his rookie season, when he got called for a false start.
McKenzie said he wants to see Pryor play so that he can get a better feel for what Pryor can do in a real game.
It says here that now is the perfect time to do so. The Raiders have four otherwise meaningless games left. They need to see what Pryor can do, as well as other young, inexperienced players such as running back Taiwan Jones and defensive back Brandian Ross.

– The Browns converted only 3 of 11 third-down plays into first downs, yet they amassed 475 yards offense.
Among those yards, rookie quarterback Brandon Weeden passes for a career-high 364 yards, while being sacked only once in 37 dropbacks.

– The Raiders committed 10 penalties for 65 yards Sunday, while the Browns were flagged only twice for 25.
Naturally, several of the penalties came at the worst time for the Raiders.
On one play, defensive tackle Desmond Bryant jumped offsides on a third-and-one play from the Raiders 10-yard line in the fourth quarter. The Browns scored a game-clinching touchdown two plays later.

– Allen said running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson came close to being ready to play Sunday. In the end, he opted to give them a few more days’ rest on their high-ankle sprains.
“I would expect both of those guys to be able to play on Thursday night,” Allen said. “We tested them out. They just weren’t quite ready to go. I’d hope they’d be ready for Thursday night.”

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  • The_Judge37

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    Paul Gutierrez ‏@PGutierrezCSN
    #Raiders OC Greg Knapp says there was a package of plays ready for #TerrellePryor vs #Browns, but the opportunity never presented itself
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    Once they fell behind, you know Pryor wasn’t coming in the game. Maybe next week when they are losing 28-0
    —–

    Knapp has already said he doesn’t want Palmer throwing more than 70-75 passes a game. So he would consider bringing in Pryor in relief if Carson were to exceed that.

  • Raiderbuck

    Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

    Bills announced that they waived LB Kirk Morrison.

  • mcfadden20.

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Not defending it at all, the talent s8cks, i would give DA chance with more salary cap and draft picks to work with , it’s just simple as that
    ———

    So that lack of talent had nothing to do with them going 1-4 down the stretch last year? Just this year huh?

    Lack of talent has everything to do with last 10 years , there happy?

  • J Hill

    Definetly wouldn’t want Gruden as a GM or anykind of Football Consultant. Head Coach or stick to knob slobbing QB’s on MNF

    ————————————————————

    Agreed.

    HC or nothing.

    HC with A LOT of “power” is fine too.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    DA is lane kiffin with KNAPP. Josh Mcdaniels type,

    U think DA is the kind of DC Steve SPAGS was?

    how did that turn out for the Rams. Oh ya thats right they went and got a real coach.

    DA will be gone in 2 yrs

  • SR Raider

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    I’m not going to get swept up in the Gruden Rumors. Frankly, i’d just be happy if they fired every coach they have now, and replaced them with ASK Madden
    =======

    lol. can’t be worse than Knapp on O. Defense – that’s a personnel issue. Autodraft?

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur
    Coordinator Jason Tarver said #Raiders defense “played with passion. That doesn’t mean we were correct all the time.”
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  • The_Judge37

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Judging a guy after 1 year is kinda stupid , unless we were a superbowl team last year, freaking team wasn’t good last year, had 1 win against good team , couldn’t win games when everything was on the line, SF would have regretted letting B Walsh go after 2-14 season , Cowboys would have regretted their decision if they had let JJ go after 1-15 season, you can’t really tell much about a rookie coach after 1 year, you don’t know what you got in him, but atleast give him chance with better situation in offseason
    ——–

    You seem to have no problem with judging Hue after one year. Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin all got one year too many

  • DJ Johnny

    r8eray Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Prior to Sundays game against the Browns Reggie told DA that if he were to lose the game, immediately after the game we will have a black limo waiting for him outside and that will be his last game as a coach in Oakland.

    Gruden is in DC right now, immediately after his Monday Night game he will a black limo waiting outside. He’ll have a direct flight from Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport to Oakland to Coach Thursday’s Night game vs the Broncos.

    I like!


    Lmao. Seriously, keep this stuff comin’. More fun than the current state of the team that’s for sure.

  • J Hill

    What??????

    Kirk Morrison released before 55????

    Rockstar is not going to be happy.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    i think he really is dennis allens son…my bad mcxcuse20…

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Knapp has already said he doesn’t want Palmer throwing more than 70-75 passes a game. So he would consider bringing in Pryor in relief if Carson were to exceed that.
    ——
    70-75? I don’t think any QB ever throws that many passes.

  • mcfadden20.

    DA was up and coming coach , he would have gotten a head coaching job in year or 2, 1 year isn’t enough to show anything, Freaking Jason Campbell had better record than Palmer now would guys pick Jason Campbell over Palmer , hell no, there are many things go into it, i believe Cable or Hue wouldn’t even have gotten chance to become head coaches anywhere if not for AL

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Report: Mark Davis was in a rage yesterday, Speaking to McKenzie today

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis said “this sucks” “it absolutely sucks” Mark Davis want’s changes not just next year but this year

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis IMO is not going to fire Allen but he wants to see changes, I think we are going to see changes on the roster,maybe even at QB

  • The_Judge37

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    Knapp has already said he doesn’t want Palmer throwing more than 70-75 passes a game. So he would consider bringing in Pryor in relief if Carson were to exceed that.
    ——
    70-75? I don’t think any QB ever throws that many passes.
    ——–

    “Sounds like a wager?” – Greg Knapp

  • Raiderbuck

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    Paul Gutierrez ‏@PGutierrezCSN
    #Raiders OC Greg Knapp says there was a package of plays ready for #TerrellePryor vs #Browns, but the opportunity never presented itself
    **************************************************
    He wouldn’t know opportunity if it bit him the a$$

  • J Hill

    That doesn’t mean we were correct all the time.”

    ————————————————————

    We ALL know our football team has a low football IQ.

    So do we really blame the coaches for BLOWN ASSIGNMENTS???

    Gruden on board??? Yeah, fire everyone.

    Outside of that, focus on upgrading the talent. Need to upgrade the talent regardless.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    DA was not an up n coming coach. They are just his collegaues.. what are they suppose to say.

    Skip bayless is right, btw he use to cover the team. Tim tebow got DA his job in OAKLAND THIS YEAR. That team was 1-4 and defense was average till tebow came in and started managing the game with the run.

    BTW remember what Palmer did to the BRONCOS last year on 1 weeks practice?? DA’s defense LMAO

  • 2romes

    The fact is the Raiders are worst this year than last year. My assessments are from the decline in offense, defense, and special team production not based on the dislike of Reggie and DA. Last year it was like ok the Raider got to get better on defensive. now it like where do the Raiders start. Sad!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Judging a guy after 1 year is kinda stupid , unless we were a superbowl team last year, freaking team wasn’t good last year, had 1 win against good team , couldn’t win games when everything was on the line, SF would have regretted letting B Walsh go after 2-14 season , Cowboys would have regretted their decision if they had let JJ go after 1-15 season, you can’t really tell much about a rookie coach after 1 year, you don’t know what you got in him, but atleast give him chance with better situation in offseason
    ——–

    You seem to have no problem with judging Hue after one year. Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin all got one year too many

    00

    I am not judging them , i wanted Hue back and give him a chance, that didn’t mean i had full confidence in Hue, but you never know how things would turn out, it’s just these guys are annoying as f8k with comparisons and already making up their minds that DA will never amount to anything, Pretty sure if these guys were fans of those teams when B Walsh and Jimmy Johnson were rookies they would probably said the same thing

  • mcfadden20.

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Report: Mark Davis was in a rage yesterday, Speaking to McKenzie today

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis said “this sucks” “it absolutely sucks” Mark Davis want’s changes not just next year but this year

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis IMO is not going to fire Allen but he wants to see changes, I think we are going to see changes on the roster,maybe even at QB

    Stfu quit stirring the spot, gtfo here

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    When Tarver was at podium all those hacks in that media room had a shot at asking about Rolando…*crickets*…if that PC was in NY there wouldnt be a question asked of him without Rolandos name mentioned…I mean Tarver even smiled and baited them, saying about how unique,..on and off he field…not one of those Jerrys, or Pauls or Steves had the guts to ask why Rolando is banned from the building…hey hacks,..is that free food spread there really worth losing? By the way, still dont know Tarvers first name, I like the dude though! Oh by the way, all those guys had a free shot at Knapp,..not one of them asked about the dreaded ZBS,…all year long all we hear is about how horrible the ZBS is,..killed the team,…not a single hack asked Knapp about it,..amazing.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Knapp has already said he doesn’t want Palmer throwing more than 70-75 passes a game. So he would consider bringing in Pryor in relief if Carson were to exceed that.

    ===

    I heard that when CP hurt his thumb they had him working on his left handed throwing. That way he can get up into that 70+ pitch count without worrying about wearing his arm down :-)

  • DJ Johnny

    1614.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Report: Mark Davis was in a rage yesterday, Speaking to McKenzie today

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis said “this sucks” “it absolutely sucks” Mark Davis want’s changes not just next year but this year

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis IMO is not going to fire Allen but he wants to see changes, I think we are going to see changes on the roster,maybe even at QB

    Is this reliable?

  • Dakota

    Walsh may have gone 2-14 his first year in SF, but that team was 2-14 the year before AND they lost by less than a TD in 5 games and werecompetative in all but two game….where they lost by 22 and 16 points respectively.

    DA and the 2012 Raiders? 8-8 the year before, and have now lost games by 22, 31, 35, 21 and 24 points…..

    …..Bill Walsh had his guys ready to play every week…..DA has given us nothing but trash….and to compound it, he has dones so in the era of parity lol.

    Its not that DA is losing games, it is that the team looks lost in doing so. There is nearly ZERO progress.

  • mcfadden20.

    well even if regressed this year for whatever reeason you want to use, too early to call DA a failure, i seen plenty of coaches who make big jumps in their 2nd and 3rd years , give him a chance, grass isn’t always green on the other side as we found out with B Callahan, i bet you guys were like oh B Callahan is better than Gruden after he took them to the playoffs lol

  • RaidingTexas

    Mcfadden20. Says:

    You seem to have no problem with judging Hue after one year. Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin all got one year too many

    ——————————————-

    It wasn’t “judging” Hue. New regimes often bring in new HCs. Reggie said they were going in a different direction and Hue didn’t fit with that plan. It’s as simple as that.

    I’m not sure why you guys keep thinking they judged him after one season. There was complete turnover from the top down, including owner.

  • eastoaklandraider

    We finally give our HC a chance to pick his staff and he burns us, lol oh the irony.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    knapp and tarver know they are gone…they dont care what they say or do anymore…

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    DJ,..none of thats reliable,..Mark was in no rage,..neither were any of the players either. Ya feel me?

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Bill Walsh,..you think Bill would have been the genius if some other team drafted Joe before he got to him?…the N

  • mcfadden20.

    Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Walsh may have gone 2-14 his first year in SF, but that team was 2-14 the year before AND they lost by less than a TD in 5 games and werecompetative in all but two game….where they lost by 22 and 16 points respectively.

    DA and the 2012 Raiders? 8-8 the year before, and have now lost games by 22, 31, 35, 21 and 24 points…..

    …..Bill Walsh had his guys ready to play every week…..DA has given us nothing but trash….and to compound it, he has dones so in the era of parity lol.

    Its not that DA is losing games, it is that the team looks lost in doing so. There is nearly ZERO progress.


    It looked like that because I don’t think SF drafted guys blindly on D based on their 40 times, this D has been ranked in bottom 5 or 10 , 10 years in running , we are paying for Al’s stupid salary cap, do you really believe the team wanted to go with Shaughnessy and Houston as their pass rushers? Nope , they had no choice, Rolando as MLB? Nope , but had no choice, I believe DA and TArver both came from 3-4 Ds, did they really wanted to go with 4-3 , not sure , but they had no choice but stick with players on the roster, Bill Walsh won only 6 games in 2nd year, not much improvement…Chuck Noll went 3 straight years under 8 wins

  • 2romes

    The one year experiment with reggie and DA is making peoples mind up. I said from the beginning all Reggie and DA had to do is ,what do you guys call it, get to an easy 8-8 finish against weak teams.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit


    Is this reliable?

    ———

    it was posted on another raider board by a relaible source. They basically called what happened in the Rolando situation.

    Rolando challenged DA to do something.. Da challenged him back and ROlando backed down. Take it with a grain of salt.. btw McFadden20 is a known troll. he is Da’s relative

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    …The Niners passed on Joe that draft before they finally took a flier,..Bill Walsh got lucky because Joe became the best QB ever,…period.

  • DJ Johnny

    Here’s a deal.

    Raiders stop embarrassing the fanbase and we’ll stop having to resort to rumors to entertain us and give us hope…however unfounded that hope might be.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Mark had rage on flight from Cincy ya thats real,…so says Poole anyway, and I believe it,..however Monte Poole is a douchebag in real life.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    BTW its gonna take DA 2 years to = HUE JACKSONS 1 yr WIN TOTAL.

    thats if he is lucky. Might have himself up to 4 wins next year.

    HEY BUT DA IS AN UP n COMING COACH according to the known troll Mcfadden20. We all know he is related to DA

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Like I said this morning,..I firmly believe DA is gone after the year and its partly his idea,…I think he realized hes not HC material,…but told Reg he will finish the year,…Reggie is right now trying his best to lure Shaw,..but he will lose to daddys boy Irsay, the mad texter,..Shaw and Luck will be reunited. Heck I bet Irsay secretly happy his head coach is going to die just so he can get this done.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    DA is lane kiffin with KNAPP. Josh Mcdaniels type,

    U think DA is the kind of DC Steve SPAGS was?

    how did that turn out for the Rams. Oh ya thats right they went and got a real coach.

    DA will be gone in 2 yrs

    =======

    Tits resume doesn’t compare to Spags when he got that job…Tits was NOT successful as the Donkos DC. There is no argument.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    “Oh by the way, all those guys had a free shot at Knapp,..not one of them asked about the dreaded ZBS,…all year long all we hear is about how horrible the ZBS is,..killed the team,…not a single hack asked Knapp about it,..amazing.”

    ===

    I dunno. Maybe because that’s a false statement? The team averaged over 5 ypc behind the ZBS against the Browns with a converted FB and undrafted, practice squad RB. With the same two runners they managed a respectable 4.5 ypc against the leagues #11 run defense.

    It’s obvious to anyone that isn’t blindly repeating the “it’s Knapp’s fault” mantra now that the system isn’t the problem, it was the guy running in that system.

    Now if the media had any kahones they’d be asking why the highly paid, star RB can’t meet the same success that the scrubs can in this system. I’d LOVE to hear Knapp’s response to that question!

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    DJ Johnny Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    1614.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Report: Mark Davis was in a rage yesterday, Speaking to McKenzie today

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis said “this sucks” “it absolutely sucks” Mark Davis want’s changes not just next year but this year

    Oakland Raiders News‏@RaiderNewsFlash

    Mark Davis IMO is not going to fire Allen but he wants to see changes, I think we are going to see changes on the roster,maybe even at QB

    Is this reliable?
    ——
    That guy is not reliable. He didn’t even know about the Reggie presser when I asked him what time it was.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I agree it looks like the JOB is really getting to DA.. where HUE EMBRACED the challenges.. DA is quiet and worried.

    I wouldnt be suprises if he eventually gives up. I really think DA underestimated this fan base.. and Mark Davis himself.

    THINK AINT DONKEY land up in dnever

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Is this reliable?
    ——
    That guy is not reliable. He didn’t even know about the Reggie presser when I asked him what time it was.

    —————————

    doesnt mean he is not legit.. he gets fed news from his source that works with the team.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I think it’s weird that Allen didn’t even tell the players he was leaving for a couple of days.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    exactly..Albert.. I just dont think he has a close relationship with his players

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Walsh may have gone 2-14 his first year in SF, but that team was 2-14 the year before AND they lost by less than a TD in 5 games and werecompetative in all but two game….where they lost by 22 and 16 points respectively.

    DA and the 2012 Raiders? 8-8 the year before, and have now lost games by 22, 31, 35, 21 and 24 points…..

    …..Bill Walsh had his guys ready to play every week…..DA has given us nothing but trash….and to compound it, he has dones so in the era of parity lol.

    Its not that DA is losing games, it is that the team looks lost in doing so. There is nearly ZERO progress.

    ====

    Bill Walsh coached in the era before the salary cap with an owner that had no shame in having the highest payroll, largest money losing team in order to win championships. He never had to deal with the questions around whether to keep starters because of cap problems. That team overpaid to keep every single player that they wanted. Hell, that team paid Steve Young $3M per year (like in the top 5 for QBs at the time) to sit on the bench for 3 years just so they could have an heir to Montana down the road.

    It was the best team money could buy. Totally apples to volkswagens comparison to what DA had to face this year with all of the cap fixing forced cuts and lack of quality replacements.

  • The_Judge37

    Whether you’re on the side of the players or coaches, one thing we can all agree on is this is one HUGE $h!t Storm.

  • Dakota

    Name one area on the team that has improved under this coaching staff.

    Penalties????? Even that is now up and down.

    We did not lose that much talent. Bush isn’t doing that well in Chicago….Routt is out of the NFL….Wimbley is about the only player with talent we miss. Satele wasn’t great when he was here.

    DA didn’t lose enough talent on this team to justify losing so badly so often. He made the wrong choice in hiring Knapp and Tarver, and now he has a choice….make changes or he and Reggie are going down with those assistants after next season.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Did you all not hear me?…what I said this morning?…DA has checked out…hes done.