Raiders sign FB/RB to active roster
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders filled the vacancy on their 53-man roster by signing fullback/running back Jamize Olawale from the Dallas Cowboys practice squad.
Olawale takes the place of suspended middle linebacker Rolando McClain, who is out until Dec. 10, at the least.
Teams are permitted to sign players from another team’s practice squad provided they place that player on the active roster.
The Raiders expect back running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson in time for Thursday night’s game against the Denver Broncos.
Good thing, too, for their primary replacement the past four games, Marcel Reece, is hobbled by hamstring and quadriceps injuries right now.
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December 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Ballin’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
2 legit to quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
another worthless move.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
You don’t back down from any games…..
Especially hated divisional rivals!
December 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Guess who?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Why do we need another RB now that the stockpile is at full capacity?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Schmitt done or what?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Wonder if they’re going to add a db as well. I hope Taiwan is renting and didn’t buy.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Reece nees a break from his workload anyway. I’m surprised he’s held up as long as he has.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am
we are gonna lose to the donks and as much as I cant stand’em I want DA and this staff to be embarrassed as much as posible esp if all this Gruden talk has some substance to it.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am
crister Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Wonder if they’re going to add a db as well. I hope Taiwan is renting and didn’t buy.
Taiwan’s mom lives in Antioch, about 40 some miles away from O.co
December 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
We should all be thankful for monday night football, especially us raider fans.
The best thing about monday night football aside from the talent on the field is listening to gruden talk about qb’s and how the game is played.
The last two weeks have featured the two qbs that represent a comlete paradigm shift and the future and cutting edge in what is the changing face of the nfl. Cam newton and RGIII. they also featured the offenses and how they are evolving to suit the players which causes nightmare for the defense.
John gruden pointed out the complexity of what GRiFFIN does, and the offense, he highlighted cams ability to audible make line calls and manipulate the defense both post and pre snap.
Whta really came across was grudesn enthusisam for what these two qbs bring to the table and the offenses abilty to challenge the defense in ways never seen in the nfl. Gruden sounded as if he would kill to have one of those guys, and would be like a mad scientist devising ways to use their unique talents.
We can only hope as raider fans that knapp was wacthing, and more importantly that mckenzie and davis were watching. Why?
So that they can begin to envision some of the things we could do with pryor. If knapp is not qualified then bring in a guy next year that can use pryor and build an offense around his skill set. I thik pryor though not the polished passer that cam was in college, is certainly better than many guys starting in the nfl tody, and a better player than lienart.
Lets get a creative offensive coach that can follow the blue print used by seattle and washington.
RGIII russel wilson cam newton the wave of the future!!!
Will tp6 fit in with this group?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
The only way I’ll enjoy a Raiders win is, if Manning gets hit so hard that he has to carry his head (while in the helmet) to the sidelines=career ending
Both tackles get rolled up on and tear anything in their knees that ends in cl.
Champ Bailey gets shanked after deciding to do a Lambeau leap into the black hole after returning a Palmer pass in the 4th quarter for a TD.
Elway leans over his suite in Oakland and Al Davis ghost pushes him over to his untimely death.
Did I miss anything?
Bronc-Hoes 56
Raiders 16
December 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Carolina will fire rivera, I think they need to give hue jackson a call.
hu jack and cam would be an offensive juggernaught
December 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
because we have such great corner depth right reggie?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I was looking forward to a rare Nat’l TV game since I am out of the Oakland TV market. But I’m not looking forward to getting waxed on Nat’l TV.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Dakota Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Last season the Vikings had a shot at one of the top two picks…..instead, they beat Washington and ended up with the #3 pick.
Was a late season victory over Washington that no one will remember in 6 months worth losing out on luck, RGII or the bounty of picks the Rams got for RGIII?
Pyrrhic victory.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Rivera pretty good D.C?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I sure hope TP6 gets some time thurs I would prefer he start but I doubt that with the short week, but after we lose thurs why not start the kid the rest of the way?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Btw, I don’t get this signing. Lol
December 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
What really screwed the Vikes over wasn’t that 3rd W but taking Christian Ponder as a top 10 overall pick. That guys sucks, he’s inaccurate and will never develop into the guy they thought he’d be.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I actually like Ponder.
Don’t ask me why?
lol
December 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I sure hope TP6 gets some time thurs I would prefer he start but I doubt that with the short week, but after we lose thurs why not start the kid the rest of the way?
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What’s the worst that could happen right?
December 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Mystic,
It’s a great plan until they get their ribs busted, shoulder broken etc…. Ala mike Vick and tebow saw at the end of last year. Lets see cam and rg in three to four and how they hold up…..
December 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
What really screwed the Vikes over wasn’t that 3rd W but taking Christian Ponder as a top 10 overall pick. That guys sucks, he’s inaccurate and will never develop into the guy they thought he’d be.
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PLEASE, MISSING OUT ON LUCK OR RGIII IS FRANCHISE CHANGING. NOT YELLING, CAP LOCKS R STUCK ON!
December 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Mildly surprised we didn’t add Nate Stupar instead.
Adding another RB must mean Goodson and DMac aren’t close to returning.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Javier Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Dakota Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
One spot make a difference.
Suh over McCoy
Luck over RG3
Manning over Leaf
Just Lose Baby.
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Hind sight is 20/20! Every genius in here is going to get it right every time! Be real….
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What????
You didn’t know Suh was better than McCoy?
You didn’t know Manning was better than leaf?
You didn’t know Luck was better than RG3?
Maybe you need to watch college football more often.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am
The rebuilding strategy elected by the new regime reveals that the team is not long for Oakland.
The new regime understood that the defense was very low on talent and needed to be rebuilt. They also understood that it was so bad that this season they were not going to the playoffs. Based on that understanding, Reggie decided he might as well as tear down the already effective offense into a zone blocking team which was more to his liking. This would not be a bad strategy except for the fact that you have a fan base which after six dreadful seasons, had finally experienced progress and was desperate to see more. Make no mistake, the defense was so bad that even if the offense performed at the 2011 level the team would still probably be no better that 8-8. But psychologically, that would have been far more palatable than a four or five win season.
I don’t think you can understate the extent to which this regression has turned off the fans. They now know that it will be two to three years before the Raiders are competitive. More importantly, they also know that Los Angeles beckons and that opportunities down south undoubtedly inform the decision to choose a rebuilding strategy which reflects zero consideration for the local fan base and is based upon having a competitive team just in time to be marketed in a new city and stadium. In short, this team is gone after next season.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am
You can be emotional or smart.
Emotional: I want to win every game
Smart: I want the best pick possible especially since I don’t have any impact players.
Be Real..
I need to get a few impact players, so I need high picks. We don’t have a 2nd?!?!
You Monkeys are mad!!
December 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
What really screwed the Vikes over wasn’t that 3rd W but taking Christian Ponder as a top 10 overall pick. That guys sucks, he’s inaccurate and will never develop into the guy they thought he’d be.
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Bad pick worst reach of the draft.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
LA Raiders with Gruden running the show and Teo captaining the defense!
Make it happen Dutchboy!
December 4th, 2012 at 10:59 am
ISI = Iron Sharpening Iron
December 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
I don’t care about the rest of the season. Just beat the Donks Thursday or at least end PM career!!!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Reggie: “Greg, what’s it going to take to get this offense rolling?”
Knapp: “A 3rd Fullback, this way we have one fresh one rotate in for the 6 running plays i’m going to call”
December 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am
You didn’t know Luck was better than RG3?
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Luck is not better than RG3.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am
mikeschoice Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Mystic,
It’s a great plan until they get their ribs busted, shoulder broken etc…. Ala mike Vick and tebow saw at the end of last year. Lets see cam and rg in three to four and how they hold up…..
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I dont think this is true.
Vick took most of his hits the lats two years in the pocket behind a horrific line.
Qbs have never been asked to do what cam wilson and rgIII are doing in nfl history, and they are holding uip fine.
Mat schaub and mathew stafford are not in that mold yet they get hurt often. There doesnt seem to be more danger for runnig qbs at all.
These new qbs have played this style of football all through college, and like RgIII said “its still football”. In other words the guys know that they can run and be effective.
Its on the coaches not to run them into the ground and use the qb run only as an accent piece and not a staple.
i believ that washington and seattle have the best balance in this regard.
TP6 will be fine, and should not concern himself about injuries, they happen to every qb regardless of style
December 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I like RG3 more, but would rather have Luck, because he’s built to sustain more hits than RG3.
Not sure his body will hold for hella years to come.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Raiders not going to LA sorry to bust your bubble.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Mat schaub and mathew stafford are not in that mold yet they get hurt often. There doesnt seem to be more danger for runnig qbs at all.
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Schaub’s injury problems dissapeared with Brisel
December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Free TP6!!!!
Time to unleash Bruce Leroy!!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Rivera pretty good D.C?
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he was very good as a coordinator, sucks as a head coach.
remeber rivera was the dc in san diego when they owned us (before jc put a stop to that), and defense was one of the main reason they did.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I’m not saying he is a better pro, but he was a better prospect. That’s a fact.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I’ll take Luck over RG3. Luck is built for the long haul. A Brady or Peyton type who can sustain a franchise for 15 years. RG3 is a brilliant talent, but relies on his athleticism too much and that always wears down and fades with all the hits he’s bound to take diving for yards. RG3 is much funner to watch and more entertaining. But to me its a no brainer to take Luck over RG3 to set a franchise up for a long run of success.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Mat schaub and mathew stafford are not in that mold yet they get hurt often. There doesnt seem to be more danger for runnig qbs at all.
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Schaub’s injury problems dissapeared with Brisel
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WTF happen to Brisiel? He was suppose to be a top FA zone interior linemen?
Could it be coaching or did the Texans know something we didn’t?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I sure hope TP6 gets some time thurs I would prefer he start but I doubt that with the short week, but after we lose thurs why not start the kid the rest of the way?
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What’s the worst that could happen right?
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I actually see this as being the most likely scenario. Palmer will start Thursday, and I only see him getting pulled from the game if we’re down 35 points at any rate. Probably won’t see Pryor till next week. He’ll have another couple of days to prepare for KC….
December 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I like them both a lot, but I think Luck will have a better career.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Jarvis Jones Te`o or Star Lotulelei will be a Raider
December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I rather have DE D Moore or CB Xavier Rhodes.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Dakota and Raider O
You’re guys are right. Lets loose out the rest of the season to get a top 3 pick.
Any second comings of Luck or RG3? A Suh type impact player who going to command huge money?
Who’s out there thats going to make us a 8-4 by this time next year like the Detroit Lions are….Oh wait, Suh team that is only 4-8.
WE NEED PICKS and plenty of them.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I like RG3 more, but would rather have Luck, because he’s built to sustain more hits than RG3.
Not sure his body will hold for hella years to come.
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RG3 will learn to slide, Won Heisman over Luck, Has better numbers than Luck with a lesser team, and will prob win ROY over Luck.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Routt signs with Texans……
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/04/texans-sign-routt-before-he-can-head-to-pittsburgh/
December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
WTF happen to Brisiel? He was suppose to be a top FA zone interior linemen?
Could it be coaching or did the Texans know something we didn’t?
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When is the last time anyone picked up a good O-Line free agent? Good lines are Drafted, no one ever lets go of a good lineman. Our two best linemen are Draft picks.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
41.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Rivera pretty good D.C?
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he was very good as a coordinator, sucks as a head coach.
remeber rivera was the dc in san diego when they owned us (before jc put a stop to that), and defense was one of the main reason they did.
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Oakland?
Gruden HC
_______ OC
Riveria DC
December 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Raider Riff Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 9:55 am
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
GREG PAPA was just on 95.7 the game talking about this rumor.. Said last time GRUDEN came to Rickeys few yrs ago he had called papa and they all went down there.
Papa said GRUDEN openely talked about coming back to the Raiders and Papa was surpised to hear that.. Papa said Gruden described it as “UNFINISHED BUSINESS” also papa says he thinks Gruden would want to be the signal caller.
Papa then said Of course AL was still in charge, this was before the RAiders played the Redskins in that rainstorm.
in 2009 Al told Greg papa that GRUDEN had called him expressing that he wanted to come back. Jon had reached out to Al this was right before Al hired HUE in 2010. Papa said that HUE was really the coach in 2010.. but Cable had the title.
Greg told AL jokenly .. you would never hire JON back.. and AL said “im thinking about it” Im thinking about it”
Again Greg papa is saying this on 95.7 the game. Just letting u know. I really believe MARK DAVIS is gonna make a strong pitch for GRUDEN
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Everyone here knows my stance.
I didnt want to get rid of Hue…. but Hue forced his hand and made it so.
I dont want to get rid of DA…. we cant keep changing coaches. We just cant. More is gained with continuity.
But I’ve said since DAY 1…. I’ll gladly support Chucky returning home. Call it irrational nostalgia. Because, lets face it, it makes no sense. If we look at it logically, Chucky wont be the same without Al Davis. They both needed each other.
But I dont care. He’s the best coach we ever had in my lifetime. We never should have traded him. Its time to right a wrong and bring him home. And it just might happen, Mark is a fan just like us and he knows every game will be sold out when we know Chucky is in the house.
Gruden has wanted to come back for sometime, so has Gannon. Get them both in the building and Terrel Pryor on the field and watch this team turn everything around.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
javier Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Dakota and Raider O
You’re guys are right. Lets loose out the rest of the season to get a top 3 pick.
Any second comings of Luck or RG3? A Suh type impact player who going to command huge money?
Who’s out there thats going to make us a 8-4 by this time next year like the Detroit Lions are….Oh wait, Suh team that is only 4-8.
WE NEED PICKS and plenty of them.
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So you get a top pick and TRADE DOWN…..but you can’t do so unless you have something people want.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
poprox13 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Routt signs with Texans……
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I wonder if he ever changed his top 15 salary banner on his website? Certainly he’d be lying now if he still claims that.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Chucky isn’t coming to save the ship guys. He’s loving the drama that the rumor is causing. Such a drama queen. He could have quashed the Tennessee coaching rumors but he sat back and giggled. He is having fun with us right now.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I’ll take Luck over RG3. Luck is built for the long haul. A Brady or Peyton type who can sustain a franchise for 15 years. RG3 is a brilliant talent, but relies on his athleticism too much and that always wears down and fades with all the hits he’s bound to take diving for yards. RG3 is much funner to watch and more entertaining. But to me its a no brainer to take Luck over RG3 to set a franchise up for a long run of success.
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untrue….and very thinly veiled
Luck is nothing like brady or manning, other than his pre snap ability.
Luck is mobile, brady and m,manning are not. luck doesnt have the arm strength of brady or manning. Luck isnt as accurate as those two nor is he the decision maker that those two are. Luck is more like a drew brees.
RGIII does not rely on athleticism any more than any other qb, it is only that his athleticism separates him form 95% of the qbs in the nfl.
RGIII does just as much pre snap as manning and beat teams with his mind first arm second legs last resort.
RGIII does not take a ot of hits out of the pocket, and takes most hits while standing in the pocket to deliver the ball.
Did you even watch the game?
Your take is the classic “he is an athlete” commonly used to take away or discredit the other aspects of his game. thsi si because people dont want to accept that a qb can be worlds better athletically and also be better at the so called drop back aspects of qb play as well.
typical
December 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
People said McNABB ran too much, but over the years he became a pocket passer and RG3 is already ahead of where McNabb was at as a rookie.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
Can we some how find a way to motivate the players and pull off a a moral victory?
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Moral victory being what? Losing by less than 28 points?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
14. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Carolina will fire rivera, I think they need to give hue jackson a call.
hu jack and cam would be an offensive juggernaught
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A good candidate for DC, if Carolina fires him.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
If you tell these players to tank the season they will probably start winning
December 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Moral victory being what? Losing by less than 28 points?
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Moral victories are for losers.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
41.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Rivera pretty good D.C?
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he was very good as a coordinator, sucks as a head coach.
remeber rivera was the dc in san diego when they owned us (before jc put a stop to that), and defense was one of the main reason they did.
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Oakland?
Gruden HC
_______ OC
Riveria DC
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ill pass on rivera
his panthers are awful.
The panthers have coughed up leads on the final drive and in 4th quarter at least 5 times this year.
Rivera is a defensive specialist, so this is an indictment against him.
a better defense and the panthers have between 6-8 wins
December 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
16.guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I was looking forward to a rare Nat’l TV game since I am out of the Oakland TV market. But I’m not looking forward to getting waxed on Nat’l TV.
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Yeah. I said this right after the Browns game. No fun watching Deion, Mooch, Faulk and Irvin…and Eisen spending the pre and post game laughing at us and what a mess we have become.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
Can we some how find a way to motivate the players and pull off a a moral victory?
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Moral victory being what? Losing by less than 28 points?
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Hated divisional rival!!!!
FK da Donkies!!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am
So you’re saying that we need to loose out this season to have the oppurtunity of drafting this big time player whos going to make a huge difference on our team or someone elses if we trade down.
Who is the guy in this years draft? Any talk yet about him?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Eastoaklandraider Says:
People said McNABB ran too much, but over the years he became a pocket passer and RG3 is already ahead of where McNabb was at as a rookie.
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RG3 is looking very much like what some of us thought he would be! There may be another ring or two in Shanarat’s future.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Guest123 Says:
Moral victories are for losers.
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No disagreement at all. It’s a W or bust.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
16.guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I was looking forward to a rare Nat’l TV game since I am out of the Oakland TV market. But I’m not looking forward to getting waxed on Nat’l TV.
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Yeah. I said this right after the Browns game. No fun watching Deion, Mooch, Faulk and Irvin…and Eisen spending the pre and post game laughing at us and what a mess we have become.
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Lets give them something to talk about after the game!
Go Raiders….who cares if we draft 1st or 5th! Were not losing out on the next Luck or RG3!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:23 am
AFter watching RGIII last night…kid is exciting! I like Gruden saying the magic of RGIII after he fumbled and it magically rolled forward into his teammate’s hands for a TD…LOL
December 4th, 2012 at 11:24 am
RG3 and Luck are studs, but I don’t like R Wilson. I like my QBs to be 6′2+. I don’t like short QBs.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:24 am
The Nat’l media hates the Raiders. I may have missed it, but on the NBC Sunday Night game, was waiting on the Raider highlights and they flat skipped the OAK-CLE game. Like it didn’t happen. Did that ever come on? I was paying attention, but I never saw mention of it.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
WTF happen to Brisiel? He was suppose to be a top FA zone interior linemen?
Could it be coaching or did the Texans know something we didn’t?
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When is the last time anyone picked up a good O-Line free agent? Good lines are Drafted, no one ever lets go of a good lineman. Our two best linemen are Draft picks.
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Exactly, Trade down (if possible) for a late first rounder and pick up a second rounder, then with that late first rounder take the best olinemen available (Barret Jones imo) and go dline with the second round pick. Did you guys see Jarvis Jones against Bama? he was basically a non factor and they gave 300 yards rushing, same with Teo he will also get ran over by Bama, I pass on both those guys.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
if Terrell Pryor was smart he would switch to WR he might be able to help this team out……but his arm LMFAO no way this guy can play QB in this league he throws like Teblow.
Keep TP6 in the bench unless he is willing to play TE or WR
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Gruden will talk up a backup safety who didn’t even make a play on the ball other than to shield it from the receiver as a great great player. And LMAO when Tirico corrects him and says he didn’t do anything to impede the ball. Gruden just shuts his trap.
Gruden loves everybody!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
57.guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Chucky isn’t coming to save the ship guys. He’s loving the drama that the rumor is causing. Such a drama queen. He could have quashed the Tennessee coaching rumors but he sat back and giggled. He is having fun with us right now.
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Exactly. When all the rumors about the Tenn gig were hot and heavy he did nothing to dispel any of it. Even sported a bright orange tie on mnf cuz he KNOWS people are looking for any secret codes he might be sending out.
He’s a celebrity who no doubt subscribes to the marketing adage that any press is good press.
It was only until an article came out in a Tennessee newspaper saying he had a contract in hand that his agent bothered to squash the rumors; no doubt only because his bosses at ESPN started asking what the heck was going on.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
AGREED WITH POST-69.SHOW ME A “GOOD LOSER” I’LL SHOW U A LOSER..
December 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
75.DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
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I don’t, but Dennis Allen doesn’t seem to mind.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Exactly, Trade down (if possible) for a late first rounder and pick up a second rounder, then with that late first rounder take the best olinemen available (Barret Jones imo) and go dline with the second round pick. Did you guys see Jarvis Jones against Bama? he was basically a non factor and they gave 300 yards rushing, same with Teo he will also get ran over by Bama, I pass on both those guys.
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I’m not a big fan of Trading down, i think get the best player possible. But i do agree with addressing the O-Line first.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
December 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
75.DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
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I don’t, but Dennis Allen doesn’t seem to mind.
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I was going to say something but…………
December 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
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LOL
You don’t get it. You want to win a game that will not make a difference for this year, but it will cost us in the draft. That’s not smart.
What’s the difference between 3-13, 4-12, or 5-11? Nothing. We are still losers, but the team with 3-13 record has better picks.
It’s simple.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
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LOL
You don’t get it. You want to win a game that will not make a difference for this year, but it will cost us in the draft. That’s not smart.
What’s the difference between 3-13, 4-12, or 5-11? Nothing. We are still losers, but the team with 3-13 record has better picks.
It’s simple.
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What don’t you get? We don’t like losing, especially to a division Rival. Especially when they beat us 37-6 last time. Still plenty of games left to decide draft order.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Rebuild the lines in the draft.
Priority #1
With a strong O-line and strong D-line, you can with marginal talent at the skill positions. Build from the inside out on this rebuild job.
Raids need to evaluate every rookie and backup now to see who they keep going forward. It’s like a dress rehearsal for 2013 TC. Find the holes that need to be plugged and draft accordingly.
Inside out.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
RG3 is running a college offense much like Scam Newton did last year and we see what happened to him once the training wheels are off.
Next year RG3 will be like Cam Newton is this year “struggling”
Now Andrew Luck on the other hand is already running a post Peyton Manning Colts Pro offense so next year he wont struggle as much as RG3.
Look at how many games Luck has won this year in the final minutes he is a far superior field general than RG3 or Scam Newton if you ask me
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
With that lose out mentality, then why even show up for the next 2-3 years? Let’s just collect number one picks until we’re ready to compete.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Raider O Says:
I like my QBs to be 6′2+
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Brees has done pretty well at 6′0″. I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Exactly, Trade down (if possible) for a late first rounder and pick up a second rounder, then with that late first rounder take the best olinemen available (Barret Jones imo) and go dline with the second round pick. Did you guys see Jarvis Jones against Bama? he was basically a non factor and they gave 300 yards rushing, same with Teo he will also get ran over by Bama, I pass on both those guys.
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I’m not a big fan of Trading down, i think get the best player possible. But i do agree with addressing the O-Line first.
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Too many holes to fill, we need more picks.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
What’s sad is that we have to hope and pray that other teams and coaches take it easy on us to salvage any semblence of pride or dignity.
I was relieved when Joe Vitt decided to have his 2nd string QB take a knee at the end.
Chase Daniel was moving the ball at will against our pathetic excuse of a defense.
It should have been 45-17 Saints.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
You don’t get it. You want to win a game that will not make a difference for this year, but it will cost us in the draft. That’s not smart.
What’s the difference between 3-13, 4-12, or 5-11? Nothing. We are still losers, but the team with 3-13 record has better picks.
It’s simple.
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What don’t you get? We don’t like losing, especially to a division Rival. Especially when they beat us 37-6 last time. Still plenty of games left to decide draft order.
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So if we are 5-11 instead of 3-13 you are going to pound your chest and say “we are not losers anymore”?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
if Terrell Pryor was smart he would switch to WR he might be able to help this team out……but his arm LMFAO no way this guy can play QB in this league he throws like Teblow.
Keep TP6 in the bench unless he is willing to play TE or WR
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tebow, ponder, gabbert, locker, quinn, henne, cassel, weeden, fitzpatrick, foles, lindly,macelroy
If all of these guys get to pay / start in the nfl then certainly pryor CAN as well
pryor is better than every guy on this list and it isnt close
December 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
87, I tend to agree that RG3 will regress a little, but he’s way better than Cam Newton. Still a probowl caliber QB, and I don’t expect a regression of the skins like the Panthers this yr.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You guys must like to get slapped around by the Donks!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
You don’t get it. You want to win a game that will not make a difference for this year, but it will cost us in the draft. That’s not smart.
What’s the difference between 3-13, 4-12, or 5-11? Nothing. We are still losers, but the team with 3-13 record has better picks.
It’s simple.
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It does make a difference!
Getting your asses kicked by ol’ school divisional rival.
C’mon O Dog!!!
You guys think uncle Al would just roll over and let his team give up, just so they can have a better draft position?
Hell fk’n naw!!!!!!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:35 am
What don’t you get? We don’t like losing, especially to a division Rival. Especially when they beat us 37-6 last time. Still plenty of games left to decide draft order.
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LMAO
We are 3-9 and just lost to the browns.
We are losers!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:35 am
guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Rebuild the lines in the draft.
Priority #1
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Coaching staff should be #1
then……..
December 4th, 2012 at 11:35 am
pryor is better than every guy on this list and it isnt close
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comical? laughable? hyperbole? yes yes yes
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Raider O Says:
I like my QBs to be 6′2+
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Brees has done pretty well at 6′0″. I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions.
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brees
montana
ediie labaron
sammy baugh
fran tarkenton
small qbs can get it done in any era.
russel is a lot like tarkenton, only faster and stronger arm
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
ITS CALLED INTEGRITY..SOMEONE ELSE MAY NEED THE TEAM THE RAIDERS R PLAYING TO LOSE FOR PLAYOFF POSITIONING OR WHATEVER.IF THE RAIDERS WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS EQUASION..WE FANS WOULDNT LIKE ANOTHER TEAM TANKING..
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
So if we are 5-11 instead of 3-13 you are going to pound your chest and say “we are not losers anymore”?
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No, i can at least tell the Bronco fans i know to Fk off, we got em back this year. Are you going to point your finger at the team with the #4 spot and call them suckers when we draft at #3?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:37 am
there is no game changer at the top of this draft, I do like the big DT soli whatever, but this seems like one of those drafts where there may be a diamond in the rough in the mid to late rounds.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
IS this a black thing?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Raider O Says:
I like my QBs to be 6′2+
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Brees has done pretty well at 6′0″. I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions.
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brees
montana
ediie labaron
sammy baugh
fran tarkenton
small qbs can get it done in any era.
russel is a lot like tarkenton, only faster and stronger arm
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I know bro, but I don’t like short QBs. I like big QBs like TP, Cam, etc…
December 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:24 am
The Nat’l media hates the Raiders. I may have missed it, but on the NBC Sunday Night game, was waiting on the Raider highlights and they flat skipped the OAK-CLE game. Like it didn’t happen. Did that ever come on? I was paying attention, but I never saw mention of it.
I remember winning one game impressively a couple of years ago. Directv decided to give out the free Showtime channels for that week… Watched Inside the NFL, and not one highlight of the Raider game! Not ONE!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
73.guest123 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:24 am
The Nat’l media hates the Raiders. I may have missed it, but on the NBC Sunday Night game, was waiting on the Raider highlights and they flat skipped the OAK-CLE game. Like it didn’t happen. Did that ever come on? I was paying attention, but I never saw mention of it.
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Actually, wouldn’t you be more mad if you were a Browns fan? Here your team wins it’s first road game in 12 tries and it gets ZERO coverage?
As a Raider fan i might be upset if they didn’t bother to even mention us in a game we won.
I think the lack of any attention on the Cleveland game is more indicative of how both franchises are viewed as unimportant.
How did we get this low…..again?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
If you can honestly watch a Raiders game and cheer when the other team scores, then you should probably re-evaluate who your favorite teams are.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I like big & mobile QBs.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
I remember winning one game impressively a couple of years ago. Directv decided to give out the free Showtime channels for that week… Watched Inside the NFL, and not one highlight of the Raider game! Not ONE!
You can thank Warren FAT SAPP for that!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
So if we are 5-11 instead of 3-13 you are going to pound your chest and say “we are not losers anymore”?
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No, i can at least tell the Bronco fans i know to Fk off, we got em back this year. Are you going to point your finger at the team with the #4 spot and call them suckers when we draft at #3?
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Getting better players to compete with the Donks down the road is what I want….I don’t care if the Raiders beat them this season when they have already won the division and are clearly the better team, win or lose Thursday night.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: To be reconstructed when I feel better
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: Raiders 20 Bengals 17
backstageatapuppetshow Says: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says: Browns 38 Raiders 24
dr_robert Says: raiders 23 browns 20
GG Says: If Pryor plays 3 or more qtrs
Raiders 27 Browns 24
If Leinart/Palmer play most of the game
Browns 34 Raiders 13
fingers Says: Raiders 23…. Browns 13….
MiamiRaider78 Says: Raiders-27 Bengals-24
Plunketthead Says: Raider 29 Orange 26
Raider E Says: Bengals – 31 Raiders – 9
RaiderRockstar Says: Raiders win 20-10
Reality: Raiders-27 Bengals-41
qodrn: Raiders 24 Other team 21
SilverNBlackPA Says: Raiders 33 – Bengals 27
Sullivan44 Says: Browns 55, Mark Davis’s Raiders 6
Zymurge Says: Raiders 31, Browns 27
December 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I like big & mobile QBs.
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I like big & semi-mobile titties
December 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
So if we are 5-11 instead of 3-13 you are going to pound your chest and say “we are not losers anymore”?
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No, i can at least tell the Bronco fans i know to Fk off, we got em back this year. Are you going to point your finger at the team with the #4 spot and call them suckers when we draft at #3?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
LMAO
Great logic!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Brother from another nother
did you read 95
December 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
mother
lol
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Mr. Prez,
WTF are semi mobile titties?
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
C’mon Portet???????
lol
You really rolling over for the Donks????
I never would!!!!
Neva!!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Dakota Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
So if we are 5-11 instead of 3-13 you are going to pound your chest and say “we are not losers anymore”?
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No, i can at least tell the Bronco fans i know to Fk off, we got em back this year. Are you going to point your finger at the team with the #4 spot and call them suckers when we draft at #3?
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Getting better players to compete with the Donks down the road is what I want….I don’t care if the Raiders beat them this season when they have already won the division and are clearly the better team, win or lose Thursday night.
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Fk it then, let’s just lose intentionally for 3 more years to collect number one picks. Then we can start trying to win games.
You change the losing culture of a franchise by winning, not losing
December 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Mr. Prez,
WTF are semi mobile titties?
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Some bounce to dem’
December 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
To me saying you want the Raiders to lose to your most hated rival in the division just so you can go from having a top 10 pick to a top 3 pick speaks to how clueless some are. Sad thing is its gonna be irrelevant since I don’t see the Raiders having a prayer of a chance at beating the Donks no matter how emotionally uplifted they might be.
It’s gonna take way more than a top 5 pick to right the ship. Look at the Patriots, Packers, Giants franchises (Eli Manning excluded)as an example. When is the last time either of those teams had a top 5 pick??Now look at their record the last decade. Look at the collection of Lombardi trophies…Did a light go on in your head??
What this team needs is a flawless draft from rounds 1-7. Reggie cannot whiff on anybody this time like he did last year. In addition, every FA pick up has to be solid, unlike Reggie’s last year’s FA whiffs like Brisiel, Bartell and Spencer.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
If we beat the Donks Thursday night (which isn’t going to happen anyhow) we are still a bad team and they are a better team this year. The only thing that changes is that Reggie has less options to improve the team this offseason.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
“In your face Donkies! We get to pick 3rd instead of 4th. Thanx for the ass whoopin’!”
December 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Mildly surprised we didn’t add Nate Stupar instead.
Adding another RB must mean Goodson and DMac aren’t close to returning.
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After watching two undrafted guys run well against a decent Browns run defense, I think the staff has had enough of Darren McFadden.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: No Winner.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: To be reconstructed when I feel better
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
qodrn: Raiders 24 Denver 23 (if Seymore replacement punches out Manning)
December 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Brother from another nother
did you read 95
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Portet!! Lol
I just did.
No he would not, but he did a lot of things that I didn’t agree with. He didn’t like trading down, he wanted to draft his players regardless I’d their projected round, etc…
December 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Time to unleash Bruce Leroy!
They won’t know what hit them!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Mildly surprised we didn’t add Nate Stupar instead.
Adding another RB must mean Goodson and DMac aren’t close to returning.
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After watching two undrafted guys run well against a decent Browns run defense, I think the staff has had enough of Darren McFadden.
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Or this staff just doesn’t know what the Fk they’re doing. Maybe they would’nt abandon the Run if they had a 3rd fullback.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
If the Raiders moved to LA we’d definitely get more coverage.
2nd biggest market in the country.
Especially so if we won there.
I’m not saying that’s what i want to happen…just sayin’.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Adding another RB must mean Goodson and DMac aren’t close to returning.
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I think it means Reece is close to done.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Mildly surprised we didn’t add Nate Stupar instead.
Adding another RB must mean Goodson and DMac aren’t close to returning.
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After watching two undrafted guys run well against a decent Browns run defense, I think the staff has had enough of Darren McFadden.
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That’s part of what’s so appealing about the ZBS: You don’t need big-name or super-talented running backs. You just need running backs who will run EXACTLY as they’re told to.
Assuming we stick with the ZBS, I think we should trade DMac for whatever draft picks we can get.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Dakota Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
So if we are 5-11 instead of 3-13 you are going to pound your chest and say “we are not losers anymore”?
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No, i can at least tell the Bronco fans i know to Fk off, we got em back this year. Are you going to point your finger at the team with the #4 spot and call them suckers when we draft at #3?
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Getting better players to compete with the Donks down the road is what I want….I don’t care if the Raiders beat them this season when they have already won the division and are clearly the better team, win or lose Thursday night.
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Fk it then, let’s just lose intentionally for 3 more years to collect number one picks. Then we can start trying to win games.
You change the losing culture of a franchise by winning, not losing
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Not this team. This team is too far gone. If we were losing games against good teams by just a few points, and we looked somewhat competitive, then I would have a different tune….but this team is bad from top to bottom and a win or two will do nothing to change that…so this isn’t about just draft position…..I also want this coaching staff to be shaken up this offseason. I want new coordinators at a minimum.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
tebow, ponder, gabbert, locker, quinn, henne, cassel, weeden, fitzpatrick, foles, lindly,macelroy
If all of these guys get to pay / start in the nfl then certainly pryor CAN as well
pryor is better than every guy on this list and it isnt close
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But do any of the guys you list have an overall number one two time Pro Bowl Q starting in front of them? Nope.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
RG3 is running a college offense much like Scam Newton did last year and we see what happened to him once the training wheels are off.
Next year RG3 will be like Cam Newton is this year “struggling”
Now Andrew Luck on the other hand is already running a post Peyton Manning Colts Pro offense so next year he wont struggle as much as RG3.
Look at how many games Luck has won this year in the final minutes he is a far superior field general than RG3 or Scam Newton if you ask me
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1. RGIII is not running a college offense, its the west coast offense. lat i checked wco is a nfl offnese
2. Washinton only ADDED to shanahans wco the spread option, and triple option using a pistol formation.
3. newton is not running a college offense its a vertical passing offense.
4. carolina added zone read to the veritcal offense.
5. RGIII has the full shanahan playbook, just as luck has the full colts playbook at his disposal.
6. Cam struggled early but since week four cam has 16 tds against only 5 ints.
Cam is fine and the last 3 weeks he has been outstanding.
trust me no nfl defense has “caught up” or ‘Figured cam out”.
They need guards and a center and an oc that will not rely so heavy on zone read.
Allowing cam to use pre snap audibles is the biggest difference over the last few weeks.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:49 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
That’s part of what’s so appealing about the ZBS: You don’t need big-name or super-talented running backs. You just need running backs who will run EXACTLY as they’re told to.
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Or just run hard.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
C’mon Portet???????
lol
You really rolling over for the Donks????
I never would!!!!
Neva!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It’s not rolling over. You want to win on Thursday. I want to beat them for years.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I posted this earlier today because I think it is relevant.
I think Gruden is a great coach and I saw him work miracles with the Eagles as an OC.
Remember he was 8-8 his first two seasons in Oakland.
It took him three years with a much better start than this mess.
He also focused on building the lines with our high round picks:Darrell Russell, Leon Bender(passed away prior to playing),Stinchcomb, Collins and a third rounder in Jon Ritchie.
SEE THE FOCUS??
BLOCKING AND TACKLING.
THE LINES WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN DIVISIONS WITH CAST OFFS at the skill spots like Wheatley, Crockett and Gannon.
If you listen carefully to what Tarver said he also refers to PLAYER ACQUISITION as one of the things that will be done in the offseason.
The coaches have been as professional and cordial as possible in answering the media regarding what we all know.
Our on field talent is way below NFL average at most positions.
As I said coaching stability is what is needed-not instability.
Mr Davis would never acknowledge that he had regressed in his talent acquisition capability.
The coaching churn for the last decade and THE RESULTS speak for themselves.
NO TALENT NO WINS.
That is why Reggie had to blow up the entire scouting department and buy computers.
It is also why this is a 3-5 year project.
It is also why you could never get an experienced HC to take the job last year. EVERYONE KNEW HOW BAD IT WAS.
AT LEAST WE ARE UNDERWAY WITH A REAL REBUILDING JOB.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
That’s part of what’s so appealing about the ZBS: You don’t need big-name or super-talented running backs. You just need running backs who will run EXACTLY as they’re told to.
Assuming we stick with the ZBS, I think we should trade DMac for whatever draft picks we can get.
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Big assumption. But if we do stick to the ZBS, I agree trade DMC on name value and reputation and see what draft pick or picks we can get.
Look at Alfred Morris. He’s a 6th rounder who put in 1000 yard rushing season. Something McFadden has done exactly once. There’s better ways to spend your money.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
We’re not going to cut 53 players this offseason. So it’s still important to develop what little talent we have.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
It isn’t just about a win people. FK what the record says.
Its the fk’n Donkies in our house!!!!!!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
tebow, ponder, gabbert, locker, quinn, henne, cassel, weeden, fitzpatrick, foles, lindly,macelroy
If all of these guys get to pay / start in the nfl then certainly pryor CAN as well
pryor is better than every guy on this list and it isnt close
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But do any of the guys you list have an overall number one two time Pro Bowl Q starting in front of them? Nope.
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doesnt matter especially at 3-9
palmer has thrown away so many games this year, that his probowl past is nothing more than ghost that haunts the memories of his worshipers.
Its pryor time
besides that wasnt the discussion i was having. Someone said pryor needed to switch postions, and i answerd by listing qbs that are have played this year and followed it with the suggestion that pryor is a far better player than those guys.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
C’mon Portet???????
lol
You really rolling over for the Donks????
I never would!!!!
Neva!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It’s not rolling over. You want to win on Thursday. I want to beat them for years.
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I want to be them Thursday and years to come.
Your guaranteed to have success just because you have a higher draft pick.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
It isn’t just about a win people. FK what the record says.
Its the fk’n Donkies in our house!!!!!!
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This season has stripped them (Fans) of their pride. Next up is making like the Lions fans and putting bags over their heads.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
We’re not going to cut 53 players this offseason. So it’s still important to develop what little talent we have.
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Yes!
So throw the reserves out there mixed with the ones and properly evaluate them under live fire conditions. Throw them to the wolves. Sink or swim. Now or never….you get the idea.
Nothing ventured nothing gained….
shoot me!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Can you imagine at the beggining of this year if we motioned McFadden all around the field and ran the ball with Reece…
December 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
1. RGIII is not running a college offense, its the west coast offense. lat i checked wco is a nfl offnese
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No he isn’t. I told you this. He is running Ault’s Nevada Pistol offense. It is the same offense kapernick ran. It is a triple option offense run out of the shotgun. Ault used a single back, but Shanahan has thrown in a few variations including using a two back spread offense. No one else in the league runs this, and it has been VERY effective. One of the reasons I think the Whiners went with Kaepernick is to install that same offense across the bay. The problem is DC’s will spend all off season figuring a way to stop it.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Ok, O, I get your logic but no Raider fan will want to just get killed by the Donks at home…even though, based on Tarver’s interview that we won’t tsop Manning…he can be stopped, but we got so many holes all over the place…does it matter really where we draft? Reggie will probably trade down anyways, and get more picks out of that!
December 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Raider O Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
C’mon Portet???????
lol
You really rolling over for the Donks????
I never would!!!!
Neva!!
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It’s not rolling over. You want to win on Thursday. I want to beat them for years.
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I want to be them Thursday and years to come.
Your guaranteed to have success just because you have a higher draft pick.
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No, but You are guaranteed a higher pick which gives you more options to help rebuild your team.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:54 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Can you imagine at the beggining of this year if we motioned McFadden all around the field and ran the ball with Reece…
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Tell that to Greg Knapp, and his head would explode.
December 4th, 2012 at 11:56 am
CP3 threw the ball how many times? and at no point were we down by more than 10? This is why people want Knapp gone.
December 4th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am
we are gonna lose to the donks and as much as I cant stand’em I want DA and this staff to be embarrassed as much as posible esp if all this Gruden talk has some substance to it.
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Are you a Raider fan? Wanting the Donks to beat us in the Colesium? With fans like who needs haters?
I want MY team team to kick their donkey haired rears back to Denver.
Go Raiders!
December 4th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
The emsemble that Reggie has chosen starting with the coaches must be taken apart and reintergrated. That means Reggie’s thought process was misconstrued in regards to coach/ player personnel. I believe that alone will set the Raiders comeback off another year. So whatever your comeback date is for the Raiders add one more year to that.
December 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
140.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
tebow, ponder, gabbert, locker, quinn, henne, cassel, weeden, fitzpatrick, foles, lindly,macelroy
If all of these guys get to pay / start in the nfl then certainly pryor CAN as well
pryor is better than every guy on this list and it isnt close
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But do any of the guys you list have an overall number one two time Pro Bowl Q starting in front of them? Nope.
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doesnt matter especially at 3-9
palmer has thrown away so many games this year, that his probowl past is nothing more than ghost that haunts the memories of his worshipers.
Its pryor time
besides that wasnt the discussion i was having. Someone said pryor needed to switch postions, and i answerd by listing qbs that are have played this year and followed it with the suggestion that pryor is a far better player than those guys.
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Based on what? What Pryor did in a preseason game, or what he did against good defenses in college?
Just cuz you WANT him to be better than those guys you mentioned doesn’t mean it is actually true.
I
December 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
..want Pryor to be good to but that is really a stretch.
December 4th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Are we waiting for the Chiefs game to see Pryor?
December 4th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Free TP6!!!!
Time to unleash Bruce Leroy!!
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LMMFAO….Watchin TP with a “Blue Glow” trailing as he eludes would-be sacks and makes a break down the sideline laughing….”I AM THE MASTER”
December 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Ok, O, I get your logic but no Raider fan will want to just get killed by the Donks at home…even though, based on Tarver’s interview that we won’t tsop Manning…he can be stopped, but we got so many holes all over the place…does it matter really where we draft? Reggie will probably trade down anyways, and get more picks out of that!
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No worries. We got that extra FB/RB now. We got this game in the bag.
I freakin HATE DUNGVER
December 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Can any Reggie supporter tell me what philosophy Reggie goes by? Al Davis philosophy ,to my knowledge, was to get the best athlete a plug them in. so that sometime meant the athlete he chose did not fit the schemes at times.
Trust me I am trying to move on from the Hue era. I just don’t know where Reggie is taking this Org. and his first crucial moves were disasters.
December 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
2romes Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Can any Reggie supporter tell me what philosophy Reggie goes by? Al Davis philosophy ,to my knowledge, was to get the best athlete a plug them in. so that sometime meant the athlete he chose did not fit the schemes at times.
Trust me I am trying to move on from the Hue era. I just don’t know where Reggie is taking this Org. and his first crucial moves were disasters.
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I like to think he is taking us to several Superbowls sometime in the next five years but we shall see.
As far as personnel go I think he is going for football players first and “athletes” second. Give me a smart football player over an “athlete” anytime.
For now, in Reggie I trust.
Go Raiders!
December 4th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
There is no way chokey returns to the Raiders, no way. That’s fantasyland talk.
As well, don’t expect TP6 to start or to get any play from the Raiders. Both Carcux and Leinart would have to go down and out. I suspect that there has to be some kind of legalese (active time in the NFL) in a player’s contract as the reason to activate him. As some suggested, Pryor will be dealt away as soon as the season is over. Which is a very dumb move, but that’s “our” leaders at work.
December 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
The 2012 Raiders have been defined by irony more than anything else–a defensive minded head coach who hasn’t fixed the defense, DMAC’s relatively healthy season ruined by the ZBS, and the return of an OC to “improve” what had been a potent, if inconsistent, offense.
What I’m getting at is that if irony defines the Raiders, we shouldn’t be surprised if they somehow manage to end Manning’s career two days from now, which would incur the league’s wrath against us in the post Al Davis era.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Re: Griffin v. Luck
Injuries are a crap shoot. A guy can twist his ankle or knee taking a step back and never be the same. All you can talk about are probabilities.
Why do we always have to frame the question as “Who’s better, Griffin or Luck?” I can’t really answer that question. The skill sets of both are really high and likely to grow with each game.
I will say this. As long as you have a qb who is nimble (both) and fast (Griffin), you have to work hard at convincing that qb to not place himself in a place where someone running full blast at him can take a shot at him because all it takes is one hit to send you to mediocrity. That shot Griffin took on his non-throwing shoulder as he ran full tilt for the sidelines was scary. It could have happened to anyone but given his skill set, his knowledge that he can usually outrun someone and get to safety (the sidelines and ob), Griffin was showing why it is that so many coaches both love speed, yet often loathe it in their qb, for it’s downright hard for that qb to resist the temptation to outrun the enemy. You can only take so many of those shots before you are worn down by the end of the season or you are hurt to the point you aren’t what you once were.
Griffin is fun to watch, but he’s better off not being as fun to watch, because the laws of probability have to be considered.
Both qbs are great and I hope they stay healthy and have long, illustrious careers.
December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
“Can any Reggie supporter tell me what philosophy Reggie goes by?”
1) demonstrable football skills at their positions: RM doesn’t give a rat’s ass about what Al saw as “undeveloped potential.” I don’t think you’ll see, for example, a Reggie drafting track stars to be turned into wide receivers or brute forces being drafted to be turned into offensive tackles or guards.
2) character/maturity: guys who love to play ball, good citizens, guys who can treat their job as a professional should treat it (not going to be drafting guys who are wearing fur coats to press conferences)
3) intelligent guys if he can get them (Bill Walsh and Jim Harbaugh, having coached at Stanford, know how much intelligence can help a good player become a great player and mediocre one become a good one)
4) mental and physical toughness: Reggie’s a throwback, a former linebacker who doesn’t like the guy who can’t tough it out with a bad ankle.
December 5th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
another worthless move.
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Same people said the same thing when Marcel Reece was signed. Tell me you saw THAT player coming.
Let it play out, please.
December 5th, 2012 at 2:12 am
Shutdown Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
“Can any Reggie supporter tell me what philosophy Reggie goes by?”
1) demonstrable football skills at their positions: RM doesn’t give a rat’s ass about what Al saw as “undeveloped potential.” I don’t think you’ll see, for example, a Reggie drafting track stars to be turned into wide receivers or brute forces being drafted to be turned into offensive tackles or guards.
2) character/maturity: guys who love to play ball, good citizens, guys who can treat their job as a professional should treat it (not going to be drafting guys who are wearing fur coats to press conferences)
3) intelligent guys if he can get them (Bill Walsh and Jim Harbaugh, having coached at Stanford, know how much intelligence can help a good player become a great player and mediocre one become a good one)
4) mental and physical toughness: Reggie’s a throwback, a former linebacker who doesn’t like the guy who can’t tough it out with a bad ankle.
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I can as soon as you tell me WHAT YOUR FOOTBALL BACKGROUND IS. What college team you played for, what NFL camp you were in, and what scouting background you have.
ULTIMATE FAIL.
regardless of how he did as a GM, yours is just an opinion. ..one anchored by a team mired in multiple failures by previous regimes, including Al Davis (post 2002)
December 5th, 2012 at 2:14 am
2romes Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
The emsemble that Reggie has chosen starting with the coaches must be taken apart and reintergrated. That means Reggie’s thought process was misconstrued in regards to coach/ player personnel. I believe that alone will set the Raiders comeback off another year. So whatever your comeback date is for the Raiders add one more year to that.
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We wont find that out until that time comes.
Find your way off the bandwagon anytime. We’ll let you back on once it gets going again.
1 NATION
December 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Next years away games are all tough, nfl hates Raiders:
http://www.fbschedules.com/nfl-13/2013-oakland-raiders-football-schedule.php
December 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Reece hurt short week Mark already said he wants team in Oakland or Dublin. Which satisfies the NFL team search requirements to get NFL to provide funds all we are waiting for is site confrimation which we already knowis Oakland! Bay Area is gettig its due in jobs and hiring more police will help! Economy is getting boost China recognizes what the world is going through. We need watch for Foriegn invsetors:) Money to go forward is out there Approval is Next!