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Seymour not playing Thursday, everyone else likely to play

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 at 12:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson were at full strength in practice Wednesday, and they are listed as probable for the game against the Broncos.
Therefore, it’s almost a certainty that fans will get their first look at McFadden and Goodson in a game since they suffered high-ankle sprains against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4. Both missed the past four games.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour tweaked a hamstring in the same game. He hasn’t been able to practice ever since, including Wednesday. As a result, Seymour was declared out for Thursday night’s game against the Broncos.
Defensive end Jack Crawford (toe) and cornerback Phillip Adams (concussion) are listed as questionable. The eleven other players on the injury report, including McFadden and Goodson, are listed as probable.
It appears as if the Raiders are as healthy as they have been all season going into a game, including the regular-season opener, when they were missing wide receivers Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford.

– NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will be joined by former Raiders coach John Madden, former Raiders defensive lineman Howie Long and former Broncos quarterback John Elway at a fan forum at Oracle Arena on Thursday afternoon.
The forum will be attended by media and 150 fans selected from among the Raiders season-ticketholders. The event begins at 3 p.m., more than two hours before the Broncos and Raiders play.

– Given Long’s presence at the fan forum, it seems logical that he will be the one lighting the Al Davis ceremonial torch before the game.
The Raiders have not announced who will light the torch. I don’t recall seeing Long at any Raiders practices or games since they relocated to Oakland in 1995.

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  • inonewordraider

    david shaw>jon gruden> DA

  • inonewordraider

    if gruden comes, let’s hope he’s simply coaching and selecting his staff (with Reggie’s input) with Reggie handling personell issues (with coaches input of course)

  • RaiderLen

    He wants us to have a team we can be proud of and imo he will pull out all the stops.
    ——————————————–
    Mark say’s he’s patient, but His patience is relative.

    Compared to His Dad, He’s probably patient, to (Jobe),
    not likely.

    He’s in a unique position.

    He loves Gruden, Gruden can be had at some point, and I think he wants to be the guy to land Him.

    Just my opinion.

  • Marks hair

    I havent heard any real reporters talk about guden coming back. Sounds like nonsense. A made up story because we are nothing to talk about on the field..

  • inonewordraider

    love me some greg papa, but he sure is becoming a drama queen

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    My gosh, perfect situation. Super Bowl run after 2 yrs with Palmer in Chucky’s system. Just dreaming, lol

  • RaiderLen

    Marks Hair Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    I havent heard any real reporters talk about guden coming back. Sounds like nonsense. A made up story because we are nothing to talk about on the field..
    ———————————–
    Which reporter would validate this for you?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    I don’t think Cork and Jerry would rumormonger this out of Respect for DA and the Org.

  • Raiderbuck

    The thing is RM and DA needed time to right the ship. If given time RM will, and I think given time DA will, but Gruden won’t be available next year. If you want him he comes now. DA and RM could be casualties of that.

  • manassamauler

    Marks hair Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I havent heard any real reporters talk about guden coming back. Sounds like nonsense. A made up story because we are nothing to talk about on the field..

    >> so why don’t the DENY the rumor? this will have a detrimental effect on the current coaching staff and personnel, it defies common sense and is bad business to allow these “rumors” to float midseason like this.

  • Raiderbuck

    manassamauler Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Marks hair Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I havent heard any real reporters talk about guden coming back. Sounds like nonsense. A made up story because we are nothing to talk about on the field..

    >> so why don’t the DENY the rumor? this will have a detrimental effect on the current coaching staff and personnel, it defies common sense and is bad business to allow these “rumors” to float midseason like this.
    **********************************************

    There won’t be an announcement until after the season I bet. and a lot of people have denied the rumors. Grudens agent being on of them.

  • RaiderLen

    KoolKell Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    I don’t think Cork and Jerry would rumormonger this out of Respect for DA and the Org.
    ——————————
    Agree

    They are at the facility regularly, and know all parties involved.

  • ESETERIK78

    How’s the weather up there in Jon Gruden fantasyland?

  • The_Judge37

    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

  • Plunketthead

    What reason could they have for doing this during the season? Gruden is gonna quit MNF and take over with three games left?

    Chuckie better step up and say theres nothing to it. I lose respect for him the longer he waits

  • The_Judge37

    213.ESETERIK78 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    How’s the weather up there in Jon Gruden fantasyland?
    ——–

    Bright and Sunny. Unlike reality land with DA, which is dark, gloomy with a high chance of failure.

  • The_Judge37

    212.RaiderLen Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    I don’t think Cork and Jerry would rumormonger this out of Respect for DA and the Org.
    ——————————
    Agree

    They are at the facility regularly, and know all parties involved.
    ——

    Plus Cork is madly in love with Dennis Allen

  • ESETERIK78

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ————————
    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”

  • manassamauler

    Raiderbuck Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    manassamauler Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Marks hair Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I havent heard any real reporters talk about guden coming back. Sounds like nonsense. A made up story because we are nothing to talk about on the field..

    >> so why don’t the DENY the rumor? this will have a detrimental effect on the current coaching staff and personnel, it defies common sense and is bad business to allow these “rumors” to float midseason like this.
    **********************************************

    There won’t be an announcement until after the season I bet. and a lot of people have denied the rumors. Grudens agent being on of them.

    >. when did grudens agent comment on the Raider rumors?

  • Raiderbuck

    ESETERIK78 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ————————
    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”
    *************************************************

    Either Lechler takes a lot less money or we roll with King. Too many holes to fill.

  • The_Judge37

    218.ESETERIK78 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ————————
    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”
    ———

    Well then considering Lechler is our best defensive player, then i’d say it really does matter

  • manassamauler

    nobody of any relevance has denied the rumor.nobody

  • Plunketthead

    Scumballs = Mark and John
    If this might happen at the end of the season then they should have had a plan if it leaked. Come out right away and stop it.

    Especially with DA’s father passing.

    I like it less every minute

  • The_Judge37

    Either Lechler takes a lot less money or we roll with King. Too many holes to fill.
    ——-

    It’ll still have to be top kicker money, but not record setting money like Davis gave him.

  • manassamauler

    ESETERIK78 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ————————
    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”

    >> yeah to give up a 96 yard game clinching drive AT home against a crap team with a rookie QB, rookie RB and no name WRS is a NEW low for the Raiders.

  • ESETERIK78

    Raiderbuck Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    ESETERIK78 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ————————
    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”
    *************************************************

    Either Lechler takes a lot less money or we roll with King. Too many holes to fill.

    ————————

    Absolutely right. We ain’t paying a punter, until we pay for some quality LBs and DBs.

  • RaiderLen

    Mark and JON are not scumballs.

    If the rumors are true, and they are in negotiation, until something is finalized, one way or the other, nothing is certain.

    The scumballs would be those that are leaking information.

  • Raiderbuck

    We are now behind KC in the power rankings. Can anyone say DA’s done his job?

    I’m as sad as anyone about Grady Allan, and I feel for DA and his family. This is about football. DA will be given the rest of the season, I bet, and then the heads will roll. There’s no point to do it any other way.

  • The_Judge37

    Lechler is alot more than just a punter. He’s also the only holder Seabass has ever had, have to take into consideration if it will affect Janakowski if he leaves.

  • Raiders for life

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ################

    As much as I have liked watching Lechler play over the years it’s time to move on from that contract.
    King would make about 500k a year? compared to 5 mill a year.
    Thats alot of money that could go to one or two FA’s.

  • RaiderLen

    Lechler is gone….period.

  • Raiderbuck

    I love Lechler, but that contract is wack!

  • The_Judge37

    230.Raiders for life Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ################

    As much as I have liked watching Lechler play over the years it’s time to move on from that contract.
    King would make about 500k a year? compared to 5 mill a year.
    Thats alot of money that could go to one or two FA’s.
    ———-

    His contract is up after this year. King had some big boots in preseason but he also had a lot of line drives. We already know what we get from Lechler, and i’d take that at around 1-2 million.

  • ESETERIK78

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    218.ESETERIK78 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Knowing that Al isn’t around to offer Shane the same contract, do we keep Lechler or roll the dice with King next year?

    ————————
    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”
    ———

    Well then considering Lechler is our best defensive player, then i’d say it really does matter

    ————————

    How?

    We give up big yards and big points every game. No matter where the other team starts from. So if we can save some money and get some better defenders, I’ll downgrade at P and give up 10 yards in field position.

    Tell me where having Lechler has ever made a difference to the end result? He’s been here forever, and we’ve still been one of the most generous teams in points allowed every single year. They had to travel further but the result never changed.

    Not to mention that a lot of the time he boots the ball so far the coverage is too far behind it, and we get torched anyway.

  • manassamauler

    that 96 yard drive might be the worst I’ve seen given the circumstances, the opponent and being at home. Worse than the Lions choke job last year

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Lechler is alot more than just a punter. He’s also the only holder Seabass has ever had, have to take into consideration if it will affect Janakowski if he leaves.
    =========================================

    Lechler is also the emergency #3 QB. But he is still not worth that kind of jack.

    And BTW, Hue Jackson was never in the running for the Cal job. They hired Sonny Dykes.

  • manassamauler

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Lechler is alot more than just a punter. He’s also the only holder Seabass has ever had, have to take into consideration if it will affect Janakowski if he leaves.

    >> who here wouldn’t go hold a ball for 5 million.

  • inonewordraider

    HC Gruden

    avril bryant houston shaughessey (Christo, Crawford)
    wheeler te’o burris
    hanson rogers-cromartie
    branch huff

    Veldheer Carlisle Wiz Bergstrom Long
    Reece DMAC
    Myers/Ausberry
    CP/Pryor
    Moore, DHB, Criner, Streater, Ford

    KR/PR Ford
    P Lechler
    K Jano

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    Ricky Ricardo is a MF and his old lady is a pig. F Rickys. Charging fans money just to cram into his tiny bar…what a loser,..worlds worst toupee by the way.

    ==========

    Tell me about it. I tell ya what. I’ve had to watch those 2 go at before. It was Naaaaaaassssty! But it was like a traffic accident, couldn’t take my eyes off.

  • manassamauler

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Lechler is alot more than just a punter. He’s also the only holder Seabass has ever had, have to take into consideration if it will affect Janakowski if he leaves.
    =========================================

    Lechler is also the emergency #3 QB. But he is still not worth that kind of jack.

    And BTW, Hue Jackson was never in the running for the Cal job. They hired Sonny Dykes.

    >> Hue jackson couldn’t even coach a fantasy football team

  • ESETERIK78

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Lechler is alot more than just a punter. He’s also the only holder Seabass has ever had, have to take into consideration if it will affect Janakowski if he leaves.

    —————————–

    Normally, I’d scoff at that remark. But after the debacle at long snapper, there may be some merit there. But still, you gonna pay a guy that kind of money to hold the ball?

  • The_Judge37

    Again, Lechler’s contract is up after this year. He won’t make 5 million next year, he’s open for negotiation.

  • manassamauler

    Raiders won’t make the Super bowl without Lechler.

  • MarcusAllen

    Since the start of the 2007 NFL season there have been 35 games where the closing line favored the away team by 9.5 to 11.5 points. In these games:

    The team like Denver won the game 26 times (74.3%)
    The team like Oakland won the game 8 times (22.9%)
    The team like Oakland did better against the spread, going 26-9 (74.3% ATS) and covering the spread by an average of 3.2 points

    Will oak beat the spread?

    Another beat down is going to be tough to forget about…

  • The_Judge37

    We give up big yards and big points every game. No matter where the other team starts from. So if we can save some money and get some better defenders, I’ll downgrade at P and give up 10 yards in field position.

    Tell me where having Lechler has ever made a difference to the end result? He’s been here forever, and we’ve still been one of the most generous teams in points allowed every single year. They had to travel further but the result never changed.

    Not to mention that a lot of the time he boots the ball so far the coverage is too far behind it, and we get torched anyway
    ———

    I think you need to see what an average punter looks like before you think it’s not that important. Lechler has had us spoiled for along time now. Getting rid of him isn’t going to improve our defense either.

  • manassamauler

    MarcusAllen Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Since the start of the 2007 NFL season there have been 35 games where the closing line favored the away team by 9.5 to 11.5 points. In these games:

    The team like Denver won the game 26 times (74.3%)
    The team like Oakland won the game 8 times (22.9%)
    The team like Oakland did better against the spread, going 26-9 (74.3% ATS) and covering the spread by an average of 3.2 points

    Will oak beat the spread?

    Another beat down is going to be tough to forget about…

    >. raiders did play the Falcons tough but that was a fluke IMO. Manning will have fun thursday.

  • The_Judge37

    243.manassamauler Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    Raiders won’t make the Super bowl without Lechler.
    ——–

    Finally, Someone gets it.

  • manassamauler

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    We give up big yards and big points every game. No matter where the other team starts from. So if we can save some money and get some better defenders, I’ll downgrade at P and give up 10 yards in field position.

    Tell me where having Lechler has ever made a difference to the end result? He’s been here forever, and we’ve still been one of the most generous teams in points allowed every single year. They had to travel further but the result never changed.

    Not to mention that a lot of the time he boots the ball so far the coverage is too far behind it, and we get torched anyway
    ———

    I think you need to see what an average punter looks like before you think it’s not that important. Lechler has had us spoiled for along time now. Getting rid of him isn’t going to improve our defense either.

    >> Not spending that 5 million of DEFENSIVE players instead of a punter won’t make the defense better either

  • Dakota

    Remember, Amy trash didn’t want to hire gruden in 1998, she wanted bill belichick.

    And she is running the raiders now…

  • jesusraiderjim

    Until the defense improves it doesn’t really matter. Does it?

    Lechler can pin a team on the four, and 96 yards later the defense is looking at eachother “what just happened!?”

    ————————————
    DUH!!!

    God it pisses me off when they do that. How can they watch the film later and not feel like total dumb asses?