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Broncos weigh in on what ails Raiders

The Raiders came within one win of edging the Denver Broncos for the AFC West title last season. Today, the teams seem light years apart.
The Broncos beat the Raiders 26-13 on Thursday night for their eighth straight victory and improved to 10-3. The Raiders dropped to 3-10 after losing for the sixth straight time.
Broncos standout cornerback Champ Bailey said he sees a team that is in the process of finding the proper players for their schemes and adjusting to new coaching.
“It’s a combination of a lot of things,” Bailey said of the Raiders free-fall from 8-8 last season. “Once they get their personnel that they want and what coach (Dennis) Allen wants, things will start working out. It starts from the top. At some point, they’ll get it together.”
But when? The Raiders are in their 10th straight season of not posting a winning record or making the playoffs.
The more they try, the worse things seem to get. Meanwhile, the Broncos went from 4-12 in 2010 to 8-8 last season to a legitimate Super Bowl contender this season.
Allen, the coordinators and the players maintain that the Raiders are talented enough to win right now.
Broncos nose tackle Justin Bannan agreed that the Raiders don’t lack for talent. It’s a slew of other things conspiring against them right now.
“You have to understand, they lost their owner, they changed management, they got a new head coach,” Bannan said. “They got a combination of stuff happening. In today’s world, there’s no patience. But it’s going to take patience. You’re not just going to flip over like that and progress.”
Bannan said signing quarterback Peyton Manning helped the Broncos make the quantum leap from an average team to the one that is running roughshod over the league right now.
The Broncos also have Bailey and linebackers Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil playing at a high level on defense.
Broncos linebacker D.J. Williams said the Raiders have the talent, but it takes more than talent to win games.
“In terms of pure numbers, they are the biggest, fastest team in the league,” Williams said. “But in the NFL, every team has talent. It’s about jelling and getting on the same page.”
Raiders owner Mark Davis told Allen last month that the way the Raiders are playing “isn’t good enough.” Davis added that he wants to see progress.
The Raiders and Allen have three more games to impress Davis. There’s nothing to say that Allen is assured of being back next season.
Bailey said the Raiders would make a mistake if they don’t keep Allen beyond this season.
“He did some good things for us here,” said Bailey, in reference to Allen being the Broncos defensive coordinator in 2011. “I got to give him a lot of credit. He earned that job and he deserves to keep trying to put those winning seasons together. He’s a good football mind.”

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  • Chris in NY

    Dakota Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    Remember what I have been saying:

    Draft position & coaching shakeup!

    It is our only hope.

    Lose out for the rest of the season. A win against KC will do more damage than good as long as it has draft position consequences.

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    I agree. Unfortunately, all three coming up are winnable.

    If DA wins 2 of 3 there’s almost no way we’re getting rid of him, unless Mark has his mind made up with a Gruden type in waiting. If he wins 1 of 3 it’ll be tricky. May depend on how ugly the two losses are.

    If he loses out, nine in a row, and goes 3-13 coming off back to back 8-8 seasons, I think Mark probably does demand a change.

    My odds on DA staying:

    3-13: 20%
    4-12: 50%
    5-11: 85%
    6-10: 99%

  • mcfadden20.

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    the thing that really bothers me is intelligent raider fans knew this was going to be a disaster the moment reggie was hired…i dont know what it was but it was a bad feeling…

    OMG LMFAO AT INTELLIGENT RAIDER FANS ??? coming from a guy who defends 7 straight seasons of 11 or more losses, hahahaha wow you’re dumb as rocks, you’ll never ever get my attention again , try all you like with your stupid name calling like mxcuse and stuff

  • Jackie Bibby

    KoolKell Says: December 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    When our divisional enemy, Denver players feel sorry for Raiders after embarssing them on national TV it’s time to call it a night.
    ———–

    Its not just ppl in denver, the guys at my barber shop are all niner fans and they even stopped ranking on me because they feel sorry for me stating how uninspiring our hc is and how retarded our gm looks and sounds. Smh

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Alameda Lee Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
    Back home after another poor loss.Some cool things did happen. I got to meet Roger Goodell and take a picture with him and Mark Davis storming through the Club seats to a waiting elevator as one of the fans shouting at him over and over again “Bring back Chucky”
    Mark was not amused.

    =====

    At the chucky chants? or the performance?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Try Some Reality Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Well, both Knapp and Tarver to be honest. Knapp we knew was a fraud OC. Tarver was just way too green.
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    If you wiki both DA & Tarver you wonder how both of them got hired by the Raiders in their positions. Both their resumes are thin as a sheet of paper.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    if mark doesnt see it yet…he will soon on the bottom line…im sure amy will remind him.

  • tuckrulefool

    DUMP THE KLOWN KOACH KADRE!

    BRING IN GRUDEN!

    NUFF SAID, G’NIGHT NATION!

  • beach

    Here are my odds of Allen staying as Head Coach:

    3-13: 0%
    4-12: 25%
    5-11: 60%
    6-10: 99%

  • Al_is_theraiders

    this nightmare will end soon…da can go back to the farm in a few weeks….

  • UCLA Raiders

    Letting DA walk will cost Mark Davis $12M thanks to Reggie giving DA a 4 year $4m per yr deal(I think). Mark Davis must be very mad to walk away from that kinda money and Gruden ain’t cheap either so it’s quite a lota money to do the switch now.
    But if Mark Davis is mad enough he may do it.

    DA is making Reggie look real bad right now. Denver players asking Raider fans to be patient with DA is adding insult to injury now.
    I think Reggie has done some good things in less than a year but hitching his wagon to DA, his own “guy” has been his BiGGEST mistake. I’m not a buyer of all those asking for more time for DA either. Like a bad disease not operating on it ASAP will only worsen the situation.

  • 2romes

    354.2romes Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
    Did M. myjock elaborate on why he was so pro Dennis Allen or was is more of a gut type feeling like Reggie had. Reggie has much more credit for the pundits to stand on than DA. I did not hear much past history of Allen’s accomplishments. Did I miss something?

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    The fact that this is a title topic “SCREAMS” to how far this organization has FALLEN….

    Good night!

  • Raiderbuck

    And the NFL Network is interviewing Doncos in OUR HOUSE!!!

  • The Oracle

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Michael Silver‏@MikeSilver

    What’s worse raider fans? Mani-pedis, bold press conference talk, reckless trade during power vacuum, reggie doesn’t get 2 choose own guy…

    Michael Silver‏@MikeSilver

    …Or THIS?

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    I think he is implying Mark had reggie fire hue. Either way Mark fugged up
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    F Mike Silver. He is a Raider -hater extraordinaire. I had a heated exchange with that fool after a Raider-hater article he wrote. He is enjoying the Raider turmoil more than anyone.

    Posting anything from Silver is a troll move.

    Not calling you a troll cause I don’t know you from hash browns..but F Silver.

  • walrushooker

    …and the only thought I can muster:
    at least we got beat by the donkeys, and I didn’t have to relive getting beat by a horrible team like the Browns.

  • http://www.RAIDERS.com Back-n-Black

    News is San Diego is cleaning house…

    Think Norv would be a better OC than Knapp? Doesn’t matter, Raiders won’t sign him even if he is…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    It’s a combination of a lot of things,” Bailey said of the Raiders free-fall from 8-8 last season.

  • nycraider

    the broncos have manning, the chargers are gonna get rid of norv, and my only hope is Reggie? ughhh

  • Al_is_theraiders

    wait till the chiefs beat us…

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    UCLA Raiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    Letting DA walk will cost Mark Davis $12M thanks to Reggie giving DA a 4 year $4m per yr deal(I think). Mark Davis must be very mad to walk away from that kinda money and Gruden ain’t cheap either so it’s quite a lota money to do the switch now.
    But if Mark Davis is mad enough he may do it.

    DA is making Reggie look real bad right now. Denver players asking Raider fans to be patient with DA is adding insult to injury now.
    I think Reggie has done some good things in less than a year but hitching his wagon to DA, his own “guy” has been his BiGGEST mistake. I’m not a buyer of all those asking for more time for DA either. Like a bad disease not operating on it ASAP will only worsen the situation.

    ==========

    Mark may lose just as much money if he keeps DA…But yeah thanks Reggie for that 4 year contract.

  • Chris in NY

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
    the thing that really bothers me is intelligent raider fans knew this was going to be a disaster the moment reggie was hired…i dont know what it was but it was a bad feeling…

    ———————

    I know I did!!!

    I was irate when news leaked that Hue was being fired. I sat there and waited for the McKenzie press conference.

    Couldn’t believe what I was watching when Chubby Checker and Mark started talking to the press. I was dumbfounded that this was the new braintrust. I knew in my heart right then and there that we were likely doomed for a considerable amount of time.

    I said Mark seemed like a cool guy, one that you’d smoke a joint with in the alley outside your favorite dive bar. But maybe not the sharpest cat to be running the Raiders.

    And CC sounded borderline illiterate. I said I wouldn’t hire him to manage a McDonald’s, let alone the Raiders.

    Some people in here were seriously pizzed at me over that take, but it’s truly how I felt.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    Stadium was not at 85% capacity tonight….

    So what happened?

    Why wasn’t it blacked out?

    Why do I personally know a hand full of people who were just GIVEN tickets outta thin air?

    Is our OWNER buying his own seats and giving them away?

    FIRE THEM ALL…..and start over AGAIN!

    Unbelievable!

  • Priesttj12

    Try Some Reality Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Well, both Knapp and Tarver to be honest. Knapp we knew was a fraud OC. Tarver was just way too green.
    —————————-
    If you wiki both DA & Tarver you wonder how both of them got hired by the Raiders in their positions. Both their resumes are thin as a sheet of paper.
    ********************************************
    Simple! a rookie GM who doesn’t know any better.

  • DT42

    Yeah Cork because the Broncos just want the Raiders to be a winning franchise again right??? Did you notice that none of the Broncos said they wish he had stayed in Denver? As long as DA stays Denver will keep handing the Raiders a$$ kickings. I’m sure they miss Lane too.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    WOW does DA really get 4 milly a year? WTF? Thats a joke of a hire if ever.

    Harbaugh got a 5 yr 5 million dollar a year contract.

    DA is not harbaugh. Should have gave DA a 1.5 million dollar contract per yr. HUGE MISTAKE

  • tuckrulefool

    PRAY FOR 3-13…IT REALLY IS OUR ONLY CHANCE

    NOW HOW SAD IS THAT ??

    CHURCH YO….

  • dr_robert

    Sullivan44 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Al davis BEEP Sullivan’s mom in the BEEP and made her suck it afterwards.
    ————————————————
    buh bye, Dork.
    Just sent original to Cork.
    Let me help with your new name.

    Miss Nancy.
    ya, that works.
    See ya
    **************

    POST OF THE NITE!

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Funny the donko says you can’t just “flip over & progress”, yet that’s exactly what they did with inserting Tebow & signing Manning the past 2 years.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Phuck what any Donkie player has to say. THIS ORG IS A MESS!!!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    lmao…but we have no money…4 mil a year? sht, i know ushers at the stadium who know more football than DA…

  • VanHeathen30

    Champ Bailey wants DA to stay so the Donkeys get 2 automatic wins every season…
    Palmer will allow him a couple of picks in those 2 meetings, to help pad his stats for theHOF.
    DA is the best friend an AFC West team has…

  • dr_robert

    loving this: 3 losses away from not only the #1 pick in the draft, but many months of missdick and priest crying about how “unfair” their being to pryor for not playing him, or even better, not committing to him after he does play in the last game and goes 4-15 23 yards, with one 42 yard run. SPACE-AGE ATTACK!

  • dr_robert

    they’re

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
    Champ Bailey wants DA to stay so the Donkeys get 2 automatic wins every season…
    Palmer will allow him a couple of picks in those 2 meetings, to help pad his stats for theHOF.
    DA is the best friend an AFC West team has…

    ==========

    LMAO! Yeah, all Raider haters sing the praises of Tits & co.

  • Jackie Bibby

    . Dr_robert Says: December 6th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    loving this: 3 losses away from not only the #1 pick in the draft, but many months of missdick and priest crying about how “unfair” their being to pryor for not playing him, or even better, not committing to him after he does play in the last game and goes 4-15 23 yards, with one 42 yard run. SPACE-AGE ATTACK!
    -,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,

    Yea cus palmer is really out there tearing it up right??? Pfft foh

  • Chris in NY

    Back-n-Black Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
    News is San Diego is cleaning house…

    Think Norv would be a better OC than Knapp? Doesn’t matter, Raiders won’t sign him even if he is…

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    Absolutely. Norv’s a great OC. Several teams will be interested in him in that role.

  • VanHeathen30

    DA has overseen 6 straight lopsided-over a halftime-beat downs…how can that provide any job security?

  • 2romes

    This same old tired song you sing does not go over well when the GM and HC do not even keep games close. Keep the next games within striking distance in the fourth quarter and a few more fans might come on board.
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    46.mcfadden20. Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    Bunch of losers , who think there is nothing wrong with the talent level just because we beat up on weak teams on our way to consecutive 8-8 seasons, oh but we didn’t lose like this blah blah blah , etc etc, stfu and actually look forward to improving the team with a new GM who would finally get to make his mark on the team with a first rd pick and actually money to grab a legit player in FA, and D coaches will finally have some one they can build their schemes around instead of going out there with the misfits , only guy you guys should be calling out is KNapp

  • DJ Johnny

    DJ Johnny Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    he was slippin’. Vito Corleone style.

    10 yr’s ago could I have gotten to him?

    -Solozzo

  • DJ Johnny

    You guys ever seen Jay Glazer interview guys on NFLN?

    He now ranks the highest onmy list as most irrtating interviewer I have ever see/heard.

    He interviewed Aaron Rodgers and McCARTHY and it was actually uncomfortable to watch. He tried to be cute and funny with ‘em acting he was their good buddy and giving them crap and they were acting like “WTH is up with this dork”?

    At the end of each interview he gives each guy some crap about something personal and he always ends up just irritating them.

    It’s of no consequence just wondered if anyone had the same take.

  • http://alswingman.blogspot.com alswingman

    They will do better once they move over to the CFL.

  • shutdown

    “In terms of pure numbers, they are the biggest, fastest team in the league,” Williams said. “But in the NFL, every team has talent. It’s about jelling and getting on the same page.”
    _________________________________________________

    Let’s not use these words to try to claim that the “biggest, fastest” is what wins games. Al thought so. We know how that turned out once he couldn’t go out and sign the best free agents and when he was blinded on draft days by the “biggest, fastest.”

    Williams was nice. He didn’t say “biggest, fastest” can also be w/out football smarts, but I think he implied that.

    Take a guy like DHB. Big, fast, and yet not nimble, as the announcer tonight said. Just straightaway fast, which is okay if he could be trusted to catch a ball. All of us know that he doesn’t have great hands.

    And what’s up with the guy we thought had great hands? Denarius Moore? Have you guys noticed he is pulling what DHB used to always do? Jumps up to catch the ball in his gut? Leaves his feet to get a ball that is no higher than his chest? Great way to get killed. It’s no way to catch a ball.

    Biggest. Fastest.

    Reggie has said he wants FOOTBALL players. That means he isn’t blinded by biggest, fastest. Thank God.

  • MiamiRaider78

    How much is DA getting paid a year??? Link please

  • Derek

    #40: The truth is Reggie Mc looks like the dunce he is, which is why he did not inspire sensible Raiders fans. He then goes out and hires the rookie coach blunder, who brings in the same OC who lost play calling duties for this SAME team.

    A rookie GM bringing in a rookie HC who wants to change the entire operation in his initial year. After the team missed the playoffs by 1 game.

    No Reggie Mc aka Spots, inspires NO confidence. He is what hi appears to be, a scrub, surrounded by other scrubs.

  • Derek

    Spots says he wants football players and proceed to fill the team with no-named misfits, scrubs and minor leaguers, while passing on NFL talent.

  • Derek

    WOW that fat doofus agreed to pay an unproven rookie coach 16 million over 4 yrs. Now he’s gonna lose additional millions in loss revenue from attendance.

    Man Reggie Mc is proving to be a costly mistake. By all rights, based on his record, track recvord and lack of experience DA should be the lowest paid coach in the NFL. Spots paid that clown like he was a proven winner.

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  • rodn5yn

    Some people seem to think there’s something superior about a 3-4 defense. Wake up, it’s still just a 11 guys, and if they blow coverages and lack gap discipline it won’t work either.

  • rodn5yn

    30. Jackie Bibby Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    BTW, Teo will be worthless without a DL on this level…Not hatin on the guy but he IS NOT worthy of a top 3 pick.
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    Truth
    ========================================================
    He will have a D-line in front of him. Even though their not getting sacks, they do more than enough to help the linebackers

    That being said, an elite pass rusher off the edge is a far greater need than a slightly better than average MIKE like Teo.

  • rodn5yn

    The only problem with Allen is his choice of OC. Tarver’s just going through growing pains, and Knapp is a proven loser.

    A versatile edge rusher/cover DE/OLB, a top notch free safety, and cornerback, and a good OC is all we need to see the post season next year.