Final: Broncos 26, Raiders 13
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.
If a national television audience was at all curious about what is wrong with the Raiders, it was all on display Thursday night.
The Denver Broncos, who clinched the AFC West last week, beat the Raiders 26-13 at O.co Coliseum for their eighth straight win. The Broncos are 10-3 and looking like a team positioning itself for a first-round bye and a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl.
The Raiders, losers of six in a row, fell to 3-10 and continued a downward spiral that shows no signs of abating.
Denver quarterback Peyton Manning completed 26 of 36 passes for 310 yards and one touchdown, dissecting the Raiders much as he did in the first meeting between the two teams on Sept. 30.
Manning threw a 6-yard touchdown pass to tight end Joel Dreessen on the opening drive of the game, with Denver also scoring on a 1-yard run by Knowshon Moreno and field goals of 43, 34, 20 and 33 yards by Matt Prater.
The Raiders’ first score came on a 6-yard pass from Carson Palmer to Darren McFadden with 1:59 left in the first half to close the margin to 13-7 and give the home crowd the false impression that perhaps things would be different on the night coach Dennis Allen returned to the sidelines following the death of his father two days ago.
Then came the third quarter, which has been the end of all good things for most of the season.
The Broncos got a gift touchdown with the help of a special teams mistake and a sack-fumble of Palmer, and Prater kicked two field goals.
It was a 13-0 third-quarter for Denver, which looked a lot like a 21-0 third quarter Denver used to break open a 37-6 Week 4 win in Denver. The Raiders trailed 10-6 at halftime in that game.
The only difference this time is the Raiders managed to score in the second half, with Palmer and Darrius Heyward-Bey connecting on a 56-yard catch and run with 5:36 to play.
Palmer finished 19 of 30 for 273 yards, two touchdowns, but his two turnovers were costly. He also threw a red zone interception to Champ Bailey in the first quarter.
The Raiders defense, which had kept Denver out of the end zone since the first quarter, did it again on the Broncos first possession of the third quarter despite a first-and-goal at the 1-yard line.
It was set up by a 23-yard pass interference call by Matt Giordano in the end zone, followed by a Manning incompletion, a 1-yard loss by Moreno courtesy of Desmond Bryant, and another Manning incompletion.
Prater came on to kick a 20-yard field goal, a moral victory of sorts.
The problem came on the ensuing kickoff, when Mike Goodson decided to take the ball out deep in his own end zone. He made it as far as the 8-yard line, and faced with third-and-6 at the 12, disaster struck.
Denver outside linebacker Von Miller blew past Khalif Barnes to hit Palmer for a sack fumble, with Mitch Unrein recovering at the 2-yard line. Moreno scored from the 1 two plays later for a 23-7 Broncos lead.
A diving interception by Phillip Adams and ensuing 80-yard drive engineered by Palmer helped the Raiders go into halftime feeling they had a chance.
Manning, who completed 16 of 22 passes for 201 yards in the first half, looked poised to have the Broncos up 20-0 with a first-and-10 at the Oakland 28 following four consecutive rushes by Moreno totaling 26 yards.
On first-and-10 from the 28, looked to have Willis breaking free in the end zone on the right side. Adams, however, made up ground, laid out for the slightly under-thrown ball, and caught it on a dive in the end zone.
Taking over the 20-yard line, Palmer completed 9 of 11 passes for 73 yards before the touchdown pass to McFadden. It came on third-and-2 from the 6-yard line on a beautifully called and conceived screen pass to the left.
The elapsed time of 6:33 made it the longest drive in terms of time for the Raiders this season.
The Raiders were trailing by only seven points because twice the Broncos were forced to settle for 43 and 34 yard field goals by Prater because of timely sacks.
The first came by Lamarr Houston late in the first quarter, coming up the middle on third-and-8 from the 14.
Denver made it as far as the 10 on its next possession until Desmond Bryant sacked Manning for a 6-yard loss on second-and-9, with Manning throwing incomplete on third-and-15.
On Denver’s last possession of the first half, a safety blitz from Mike Mitchell with Denver at the Oakland 49 helped diffuse Manning’s effort to tack on a score after the Raiders had scored their lone touchdown.
Manning guided the Broncos on an effortless 68-yard scoring drive on the first possession of the game. He completed passes of 16 yards to Eric Decker on third-and-6 and 26 yards to Moreno on third-and-10.
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December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Fox went easy. Classy guy in the wake of Allen’s loss. Make no mistake about it. Fox went easy.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Have you watched the Eagles games?
Ive watched a few. Nnamdi isnt the problem.
Eagles management spent big on starters, went SUPER thin on depth. It was a recipe for disaster. You must have depth in this league. No team stays healthy all year.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
All I want for christmas is a new coach.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Pass Rusher, CB’s, RT, WR, Blocking TE’s, needed.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Gotta look at that melon head FACK Elway on the sidelines. All buck toothy grin.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Morilla Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
You see that 2004 1st round pick graphic? Yeah, thought so.
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Brian Billick said Russell was the highest rated player the Ravens ever grated. McClain, Huff, Gallery, DMC were ALL regarded as the top 10 players of their respective drafts…The only “questionable” selection at the time was DHB.
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There isn’t a team in the league that has scored a “franchise” player in the 1st round in the last 5 drafts.
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Colts – Luck
Packers – Matthews
Denver – VON MILLER
Houston – JJ Watt
Now Im convinced some of the idiots here dont even watch football. DebO officially has ZERO cred on this board.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Namdi only looked good through the Raider lens. Ok but nothing special.
His stats got padded cause our other corner was even worse.
See Woodson for special.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Fox went easy. Classy guy in the wake of Allen’s loss. Make no mistake about it. Fox went easy.
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That and I wants to see Allen as the HC here for awhile
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
We aren’t that far away from becoming a good team, DA needs to correct his OC mistake and bring in some pass rushers, and maybe some better secondary players, just watch how much different the team looks
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
There’s a silver lining here: No watching these awful football players for 10 days.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I really thought we would see TP getting some playing time tonight.
DA is not a coach and should be FIRED.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raidervill Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Pass Rusher, CB’s, RT, WR, Blocking TE’s, needed.
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If we pass up on any proven guys like TO, Plax, Chad, or Moss again this year, I will be all over Reggie.
We need a vet WR in the worst way.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
The offseason can’t come fast enough for this team. Just to put a stop to he nightmare that is Gregg Knapp, DA, Tarver, and that ST baffoon.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
3-13…will not win again…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This team has 8 holes. Its going to take Five years to fill them all with quality starters. See you boys in 2017…. Seriously.
Let that sink in.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Did Dennis Allen make out with John fox after the game again?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
We’re still finding out guys we should bring back, Houston and Adams , good job guys , along with Streater, he showed up again,
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seems Carson was one of the few players who did his job. Team was a major letdown.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
We cannot go into another year with this WR core group of scrubs. They are all too young and all lack in the talent dept.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This team has 8 holes. Its going to take Five years to fill them all with quality starters. See you boys in 2017…. Seriously.
Let that sink in.
>> draft for OLINE, change offensive schemes and this team can be respectable next year. Defense has to be kept off of the field as much as possible
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
horrible horrible coach…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
His stats got padded cause our other corner was even worse.
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Dude, I’ve said that time and time again, yet got hated for it. When the other corner is trash, and the team can’t stop the run, why throw the ball at him?
Philip Rivers was never afraid of Nnamdi. And he proved that you could throw at Nnamdi.
I knew all along Nnamdi was a fraud.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Have you watched the Eagles games?
Ive watched a few. Nnamdi isnt the problem.
Eagles management spent big on starters, went SUPER thin on depth. It was a recipe for disaster. You must have depth in this league. No team stays healthy all year.
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Stop it. Nhamdi would have cost is like 13 million, and he’s lost a step. Yea, he’s misused in Philly, but it’s on him too. And he NEVER made plays. 1 pick a year. What’s going on to tonight? All the smart guys seem to be losing their minds? Being sliced up by Peyton will do that to you I guess.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
We’re still finding out guys we should bring back, Houston and Adams , good job guys , along with Streater, he showed up again,
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Yeah. But the list isnt long of guys we really want to keep. Its depressing.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
#9…I meant “He”
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
keep bringing these scrubs in reggie…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Great effort by the defense. Offense once again inept. Customary garbage TD.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This team has 8 holes. Its going to take Five years to fill them all with quality starters. See you boys in 2017…. Seriously.
Let that sink in.
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ouch.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
ten and then….
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Debo
most teams don’t HAVE five straight shots at a franchise player. They usually become good at some point.
We had SOOOOO many chances to draft high, and got ZERO out of it. That hurts.
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I guess Detroit had a good run with Megatron, Stafford and Suh. But it’s rare
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
We cannot go into another year with this WR core group of scrubs. They are all too young and all lack in the talent dept.
>> there are only so many draft picks and free agents out there. raiders could replace most of the defense and could probably cut all of the WRs and none of us would notice.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
How the hell did Jason Tarver get a NFL DC job?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Tarver
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Have you watched the Eagles games?
Ive watched a few. Nnamdi isnt the problem.
Eagles management spent big on starters, went SUPER thin on depth. It was a recipe for disaster. You must have depth in this league. No team stays healthy all year.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Stop it. Nhamdi would have cost is like 13 million, and he’s lost a step. Yea, he’s misused in Philly, but it’s on him too. And he NEVER made plays. 1 pick a year. What’s going on to tonight? All the smart guys seem to be losing their minds? Being sliced up by Peyton will do that to you I guess.
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Nnamdi would have played for less money than Routt. And played better.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seems Carson was one of the few players who did his job. Team was a major letdown.
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Yea, that game ending fumble on the 8 and the unforced error of a pick in the red zone was awesome. Great job Carson!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
We’re still finding out guys we should bring back, Houston and Adams , good job guys , along with Streater, he showed up again,
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Burris had a few good plays today. I think he’s worth giving another season, despite some head-shaking play in past weeks.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Fire Allens sorry az. Let him take his worthless staff with him. If spots has a problem with that he can go too.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
DA doghouses players to the demise of this org. it’s as if he is a double agent. There are some young players that could contribute and help us win games but he wont play them so they’re confident enough to play well.
They’re soo scared to make mistakes until that is all they do is make mistakes. We need Mark Davis too step up and put pressure on Reggie to take decisive action or else………..period
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
We cannot go into another year with this WR core group of scrubs. They are all too young and all lack in the talent dept.
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>> there are only so many draft picks and free agents out there. raiders could replace most of the defense and could probably cut all of the WRs and none of us would notice.
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That is the harsh reality we are facing.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
0ak r8rs Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seems Carson was one of the few players who did his job. Team was a major letdown.
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Yea, that game ending fumble on the 8 and the unforced error of a pick in the red zone was awesome. Great job Carson!
>> Palmer always finds a way to end up with a good statline while doing nothing to actually win a game.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Have you watched the Eagles games?
Ive watched a few. Nnamdi isnt the problem.
Eagles management spent big on starters, went SUPER thin on depth. It was a recipe for disaster. You must have depth in this league. No team stays healthy all year.
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I’ve watched EVERY Eagle game. Nnamdi is a huge problem! What the hell are you talking about??
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Stop looking at the players. Every team needs upgrades. You saw tonight how bad the scheming and coaching is. Knapp failed to adjust to Von Miller. He left Barners on an island way too much and it cost us plays. Knapp must have called 75% pass plays …unless you have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (who has Bill Bilicheck) that is a loser all day.
And you boyz wonder why this offense has lost competitiveness?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Fans chanting “Chucky”
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
WOW another game where the RAIDERS DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO SHOW up.. NO EMOTION, NO DIRECTION on OFFENSE.. just like a sandlot pickup game.
A house full of hall of famers and it was zero emotion. Sorry howie long, and Rod woodson even had to watch that.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Relentless Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
How great. McLame is no longer suspended.
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Gaither > Mclain any day. The TE exposed Huff until we sat him. The middle was less abused today. Shonuff.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
ten and then…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
As the saying goes “your never as good as you think you are and your never as bad as you think you are” this team has some talent, and I saw it tonight but once again we lack coaching, Tarver called a pretty good game, knapp was his usual bad self and DA just looks like Art Shell all over again. This is Basicaly the same team that went into Denver and won 59 to whatever and we have been reduced to a 3-10 sqaud. All I can say is Coaching.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Have you watched the Eagles games?
Ive watched a few. Nnamdi isnt the problem.
Eagles management spent big on starters, went SUPER thin on depth. It was a recipe for disaster. You must have depth in this league. No team stays healthy all year.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Stop it. Nhamdi would have cost is like 13 million, and he’s lost a step. Yea, he’s misused in Philly, but it’s on him too. And he NEVER made plays. 1 pick a year. What’s going on to tonight? All the smart guys seem to be losing their minds? Being sliced up by Peyton will do that to you I guess.
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Nnamdi would have played for less money than Routt. And played better.
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No he wouldn’t have? Routt sucks balls, no doubt. But we paid him like 7 mill, which was Al’s reaction to losing Nhamdi. We franchised Nhamdi twice, we would have had to pay him 13 mill if we didn’t let him go. True he could have resigned w us as a free agent for less money, but why in the hell would he do that? Would you?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
manassamauler
>> there are only so many draft picks and free agents out there. raiders could replace most of the defense and could probably cut all of the WRs and none of us would notice.
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Agree about the defense, but I like some of our WRs, they just need a better line. I’m not a big Palmer fan, but upgrading the line may improve his play, but it wouldn’t hurt me to see him go.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Morilla Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
You see that 2004 1st round pick graphic? Yeah, thought so.
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Brian Billick said Russell was the highest rated player the Ravens ever grated. McClain, Huff, Gallery, DMC were ALL regarded as the top 10 players of their respective drafts…The only “questionable” selection at the time was DHB.
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There isn’t a team in the league that has scored a “franchise” player in the 1st round in the last 5 drafts.
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Colts – Luck
Packers – Matthews
Denver – VON MILLER
Houston – JJ Watt
Now Im convinced some of the idiots here dont even watch football. DebO officially has ZERO cred on this board.
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You misunderstood my post. Mayock was saying we missed on a “franchise” player in 5 consecutive drafts in the 1st round. My point is that no team has hit on 5 consecutive “franchise” players in the 1st round.
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Nice try, he meant “Any”. He never said “consecutive”. I don’t think that’s ever been done before..
December 6th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
WOW another game where the RAIDERS DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO SHOW up.. NO EMOTION, NO DIRECTION on OFFENSE.. just like a sandlot pickup game.
A house full of hall of famers and it was zero emotion. Sorry howie long, and Rod woodson even had to watch that.
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Bingo!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Fans chanting “Chucky”
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All seven of them that showed up?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
cant wait till they fire opie…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Fans chanting “Chucky”
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Only shows their desperation. But, I understand but do not comply.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
YESSSSS
3-13 still alive and well.
Too bad that wasnt a blow out. WE NEED blowouts.
DA and co must go….
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raidervill Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Pass Rusher, CB’s, RT, WR, Blocking TE’s, needed.
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If we pass up on any proven guys like TO, Plax, Chad, or Moss again this year, I will be all over Reggie.
We need a vet WR in the worst way.
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i have no confidence in reggie brining in any quality vets
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Nyc
I’m not missing your point, I’m disagreeing with it.
Extending Branch made all the sense in the world. Trending upward, best player in our secondary, young, you take a chance with him. He might return to being solid with better talent/scheme around him.
We are in a MUCH better cap situation going forward than we EVER were with Al.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Von Miller with those big glasses look like a janitor from the 70’s.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Whata season. WOW ! our team blows ! I knew firing Hue was a huge mistake. I told all the raiders fans working for me that firing Hue would backfire. I must admit I never thought it could or would be this bad.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
You guys suck!
McK with Gruden as a waaaaaay better shot at turning this team around ahead of McK and DA….thats for damn sure!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
cant wait till they fire opie…
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Who gives a fk about the Cowboys and their coaches?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
you DON’T bring in 35-year old WRs to a terrible but young team!
That would be akin to trading a 1st rounder for SEYMOUR and sticking him on a 3-13 team!!
STUPID!! so he helps you go 5-11 instead. Wow.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
0ak r8rs Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seems Carson was one of the few players who did his job. Team was a major letdown.
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Yea, that game ending fumble on the 8 and the unforced error of a pick in the red zone was awesome. Great job Carson!
>> Palmer always finds a way to end up with a good statline while doing nothing to actually win a game.
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Exactly. I’ve seen the light! My Palmer supporting days r done. I still will not blame him for this disaster of a team, and he’s stil way down on the list of problems w this team, but he’s DEFINITELY a part of it. A big part of it. Schlep rock bum.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
You wanna be a “lock” TV announcer?! Praise Peyton Manning for the ride…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Davis and McK need to get serious about winning again and getting this franchise to become relevant again.
Do whatever it takes it takes to get Gruden back and watch him turn this crappy team around!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
This team is lucky to call itself an NFL franchise. Lowest point I have seen us at since 2006. Pathetic in all three phases of the game. Yoy wanna talk about Rebuilding? You got it baby! This team is stripped down to about 5 capable players. Hue was right when he said they were going to ‘gut the place’— and wow, the results have been ‘impressive’
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Thank Al for letting Nnamdi go.
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A quick google of Nnamdi should bring you up to speed on what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Have you watched the Eagles games?
Ive watched a few. Nnamdi isnt the problem.
Eagles management spent big on starters, went SUPER thin on depth. It was a recipe for disaster. You must have depth in this league. No team stays healthy all year.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Stop it. Nhamdi would have cost is like 13 million, and he’s lost a step. Yea, he’s misused in Philly, but it’s on him too. And he NEVER made plays. 1 pick a year. What’s going on to tonight? All the smart guys seem to be losing their minds? Being sliced up by Peyton will do that to you I guess.
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Nnamdi would have played for less money than Routt. And played better.
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No he wouldn’t have? Routt sucks balls, no doubt. But we paid him like 7 mill, which was Al’s reaction to losing Nhamdi. We franchised Nhamdi twice, we would have had to pay him 13 mill if we didn’t let him go. True he could have resigned w us as a free agent for less money, but why in the hell would he do that? Would you?
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Routt was 7 mill? I thought he was like 10 mill. If Im wrong, Im sorry. But I do remember Nnamdi saying that had he gotten an offer, he would have listened. He waited but never got one. Nnamdi got the Gruden treatment. Simply because he entertained free agency, Al didnt want him anymore. Even though I think we could have kept Nnamdi for the 8-9 mil range.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
great we are in good cap situation…3-13…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
manassamauler
>> there are only so many draft picks and free agents out there. raiders could replace most of the defense and could probably cut all of the WRs and none of us would notice.
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Agree about the defense, but I like some of our WRs, they just need a better line. I’m not a big Palmer fan, but upgrading the line may improve his play, but it wouldn’t hurt me to see him go.
>> what WRS do you like?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
37 minutes to 22 minutes Time of Possession. 25% 3rd down conversion.
Knapp’s offense is breaking our defenses back.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
We’re still finding out guys we should bring back, Houston and Adams , good job guys , along with Streater, he showed up again,
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Burris had a few good plays today. I think he’s worth giving another season, despite some head-shaking play in past weeks.
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You definitely keep Burris. Had a strong first half then started playing like a rookie. That’s ok though, he a rookie. Showed some nice hustle tonight. They need to let him get at the QB more. That’s his specialty.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
da is opie requisite hair style..
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
HUFF,KELLY NEED TO BE THE FIRST ONES SHOWN THE FUCN DOOR. THEY ARE STRAIGHT UP GARBAGE. IF D.A. STAYS FIRE KNAPP AND TARVER AND START OVER WITH A NEW STAFF. IF WE CAN GET ANY TRADE VALUE FOR DMAC TRADE HIM TOO. LOOKS SLOW AND CANT TURN HIS HIPS. IF NOT MISTAKEN HE LIMPED OFF THE FIELD LATE IN THE GAME.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Derek Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Whata season. WOW ! our team blows ! I knew firing Hue was a huge mistake. I told all the raiders fans working for me that firing Hue would backfire. I must admit I never thought it could or would be this bad.
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Yep. I knew it also. I just didn’t think it would be this bad….until they hired a rookie head coach like DA and then DA hired Knapp to change the whole offense around and then hire an inexperienced DC like Tarver.
Ugh
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
This team is lucky to call itself an NFL franchise. Lowest point I have seen us at since 2006. Pathetic in all three phases of the game. Yoy wanna talk about Rebuilding? You got it baby! This team is stripped down to about 5 capable players. Hue was right when he said they were going to ‘gut the place’— and wow, the results have been ‘impressive’
>> raiders are 51 points away from setting a new franchise record for sh*ttiest defense in OAK raider lore
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Can someone help me out. What was the deal with Palmers sack/fumble? It looked like a forward pass? It sure looked like a forward pass or at least a tuck rule thing? Yet the Donkeys got the ball with no delay? Aren’t all turnovers reviewed? Did they? And if so did I see it wrong?
Somebody help me out please and thank you
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
No excuses. Reggie, DA, and Knapp destroyed this team. This direction will not work. Somebody needs to be fired.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Nyc
I’m not missing your point, I’m disagreeing with it.
Extending Branch made all the sense in the world. Trending upward, best player in our secondary, young, you take a chance with him. He might return to being solid with better talent/scheme around him.
We are in a MUCH better cap situation going forward than we EVER were with Al.
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Ok Alex, we can disagree..time will tell, 2013 no excuses agreed?peace
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Why not stick to running game??
Cause dipcrap Knapp ruined the great running game this team had the two seasons prior.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
LoNeal telling it like it is. D played well enough to win tonight.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Nycraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raidervill Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Pass Rusher, CB’s, RT, WR, Blocking TE’s, needed.
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If we pass up on any proven guys like TO, Plax, Chad, or Moss again this year, I will be all over Reggie.
We need a vet WR in the worst way.
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i have no confidence in reggie brining in any quality vets
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Why? If he’s eventually able to get this cap in order, he will bring in solid guys.
I guess the silver lining in the season tanking is that their will absolutely be NO mortgaging the future. Bite the bullet and dump all the dead weight this offseason so we can start fresh in 2014.
We got way too many guys making 10 mil or more a year to be this bad of a team.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
starting FS = cut by the Falcons.
starting CB Hanson = cut by 49ers and Eagles.
other starting CB = cut by 49ers
starting OLB Wheeler = cut by Colts.
starting MLB = cut by Panthers.
starting WR = undrafted out of Temple.
it’s going to take some time.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
DA at the podium.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
37 minutes to 22 minutes Time of Possession. 25% 3rd down conversion.
Knapp’s offense is breaking our defenses back.
>> yeah knapp must be half retarded.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
I still will not blame him for this disaster of a team, and he’s stil way down on the list of problems w this team, but he’s DEFINITELY a part of it.
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Regardless of what anyone thinks of him, nobody can justify his $17 million cap hit in 2013. He has to restructure, or they have to get rid of him. He’s not good enough to earn that paycheck.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
competetive game? he is stupid….
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Arkraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Can someone help me out. What was the deal with Palmers sack/fumble? It looked like a forward pass? It sure looked like a forward pass or at least a tuck rule thing? Yet the Donkeys got the ball with no delay? Aren’t all turnovers reviewed? Did they? And if so did I see it wrong?
Somebody help me out please and thank you
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It was a backwards pass.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
DA at the podium.
>. DA explaining why he was high fiving John Fox after the game?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
To all the Dumbasses who say we lack Talen at WR you guys have got to be kidding me, are they young? yes do they make mistakes? yes, But not talented? GTFOH Moore has loads of talent and same goes for Ford who we miss dearly, and Streater looks like a baller too. Wrs arent the prob Carson is running for his life, back peddling, and throwing off his back foot on a lot of throws. We wont see cosistency out of any part of the offense until we get the oline fixed. When Carson can sit back there and have a cup of coffee like Gannon used to then and only then will we see our Wrs and RBs have success. Oh yeah and fire knapp.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Is there a reason to listen to DA at the podium??
Waste of time
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
This team is lucky to call itself an NFL franchise. Lowest point I have seen us at since 2006. Pathetic in all three phases of the game. Yoy wanna talk about Rebuilding? You got it baby! This team is stripped down to about 5 capable players. Hue was right when he said they were going to ‘gut the place’— and wow, the results have been ‘impressive’
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Yeah constant blowouts…how did Hue do with this talent again?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
he looks beaten…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I loved Al Davis… but his player BASE has to go…ASAP.
Huff, Branch, etc…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
This team was owning the division the last two years pretty much and now this team can only beat KC the team that is worse than them,,,KC.
Ugh
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
he is mcxcuses cousin…nothing but excuses.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
DMC, likely hurt again.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Moore is not our savior. # 3 WR at best. Skype that.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Nnamdi is still > Routt no matter how you put it, he was tired of playing in Man D
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
great we are in good cap situation…3-13…
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LOL!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
starting FS = cut by the Falcons.
starting CB Hanson = cut by 49ers and Eagles.
other starting CB = cut by 49ers
starting OLB Wheeler = cut by Colts.
starting MLB = cut by Panthers.
starting WR = undrafted out of Temple.
it’s going to take some time.
>> this won’t be fixed by numbers/drafting alone. there has to be a change in the culture. which is why people around here were so amped about gruden. he would change the culture and get these crappy players to at least hit people and play like they want to be out there.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
he is svcking mannings cck right now…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
nyc
no WAY anyone could turn this roster over in one season.
2013 = 7 wins (improvement) and Geno Smith draft pick.
2014 = Reggie better have built a winner by then.
I’ll agree to that
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
This team is lucky to call itself an NFL franchise. Lowest point I have seen us at since 2006. Pathetic in all three phases of the game. Yoy wanna talk about Rebuilding? You got it baby! This team is stripped down to about 5 capable players. Hue was right when he said they were going to ‘gut the place’— and wow, the results have been ‘impressive’
>> raiders are 51 points away from setting a new franchise record for sh*ttiest defense in OAK raider lore
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Yup. Lousy!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
This team is back at the 2004-2009 level.
Total dispair.
even the announcers PITY us. yes PITY.
This franchise has sunk so low it really is beyond depressing. ZERO hope.
Z E R 0………………………………………………………
2006-style 0…….
In that year game was over (literally) once >7 pts were scored. I get the same vibe now. Once it got to 16-7 i was over. eveen with 10 min in 3rd quarter!
all u revisionists can say what u want
but in 2010 AND 2011 it NEVER felt that way. couple of blowout games yes but MANY games we were in and the season was NOT done b4 thanksgiving.
maycock can say what he wants about allen and reggie but if they are “joined at the hip” they can BOTH go take a walk…
im willing to give mckenzie more time but not this azzhat allen.
talent level is awful but thats due to a lot of teh cutting and recruitement these guys did. coaching choices and scheme installment also their fault.
sorry but 2010/2011 at least were were competitive with bright spots.
now? NOTHING.
3-13……bring it on.
chuckie or bust! (yeah not happening..i get it)
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
This team was owning the division the last two years pretty much and now this team can only beat KC the team that is worse than them,,,KC.
Ugh
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Yeah, that’s hard to swallow.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Bring back Gruden.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
starting FS = cut by the Falcons.
starting CB Hanson = cut by 49ers and Eagles.
other starting CB = cut by 49ers
starting OLB Wheeler = cut by Colts.
starting MLB = cut by Panthers.
starting WR = undrafted out of Temple.
it’s going to take some time.
>> this won’t be fixed by numbers/drafting alone. there has to be a change in the culture. which is why people around here were so amped about gruden. he would change the culture and get these crappy players to at least hit people and play like they want to be out there.
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Exactly!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
nyc
no WAY anyone could turn this roster over in one season.
2013 = 7 wins (improvement) and Geno Smith draft pick.
2014 = Reggie better have built a winner by then.
I’ll agree to that
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ok, understood
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
CARSON HAS FOR DAMN SURE BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM, ITS TIME TO MOVE ON AND GET RID OF HIM. GARBAGE TIME T.DS AND BAD PICKS GAME AFTER GAME.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
nyc
no WAY anyone could turn this roster over in one season.
2013 = 7 wins (improvement) and Geno Smith draft pick.
2014 = Reggie better have built a winner by then.
I’ll agree to that
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Me too.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Talking about his father. Sounds like he’s about to cry. Feel sorry for the dude.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
“If we pass up on any proven guys like TO, Plax, Chad, or Moss again this year, I will be all over Reggie.”
Forget those washed up legends.
- sign a FA like Bowe/Jennings/Wallace
- draft best D player with #1
- Draft best two CB’s you can
- RT either in FA or draft
- fire offensive staff for sure
- if Gruden or Cowher can’t be had…I might roll with DA unless the locker room is lost. This team gives effort on D. The O is just horribly coached.
That’s one plan anyway.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Man
everyone Reggie has brought in so far is playing hard. I like that. No egos (of course it’s a bunch of 1-year bottom-of-the-barrel free agents, but still
Reggie will continue to bring in team-first guys, but they’ll have more talent as he’s able to actually utilize high draft picks and FA money.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
McFadden runs for 52 while Moreno..yes, Moreno..runs for 113 and a TD.
Nuff said.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
loser…he needs to go home.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
before we draft a qb next year shouldnt we see if pryor has any chance to be a starter in 2013
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
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No Barnes is fine because oline doesnt matter. LOL.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
3-13….DA is happy with compete…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
the Gruden rumor will keep gaining steam. would be worse if this was a 49-13 loss. maybe fox showed some mercy
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
This team needs a #1 receiver and two pass rushers, and some secondary help
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
What’s that 3rd quarter scoring differential at now? Cuz Tits just added another 0-13 to that league high mark.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
This team flat out suks. There is nothing to look forward too even Lechler botched one. The losing, the drops, the standard CP interception, the standard CP fumble if he get hit. It’s contagious – it’s freaking tangible. You can actually feel the losing and mistakes.
When was the last time CP ran for a first down? When? Gannon would break an opposing teams back running for the 1st down. Dude is a statue. Opposing D knows it gets through the line and chances r good he’s going down.
Where was Reece tonight? Stewart inactive. Knapp can’t work Reece in after what we’ve seen? Sh!t. Saw at least two 3rd and longs with a pass shy of the sticks. Again. Every game.
Again you saw manning on the bench and Palmer on the bench. No comparison. Manning like Gannon – has dudes gathered round getting it together. Palmer sitting there gazing into space.
I preach to my little league team “who’s gonna be the spark?” And players get pumped and somebody steps up.
This team is flat slow and only suks.
Later f this.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Raidervill Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
“If we pass up on any proven guys like TO, Plax, Chad, or Moss again this year, I will be all over Reggie.”
Forget those washed up legends.
- sign a FA like Bowe/Jennings/Wallace
- draft best D player with #1
- Draft best two CB’s you can
- RT either in FA or draft
- fire offensive staff for sure
- if Gruden or Cowher can’t be had…I might roll with DA unless the locker room is lost. This team gives effort on D. The O is just horribly coached.
That’s one plan anyway.
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Im not far off in a lot of that.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
37 minutes to 22 minutes Time of Possession. 25% 3rd down conversion.
DA never mentions it.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
3-13….DA is happy with compete…
>> do we call THAT competing? i don’t. palmer hits DHB for a garbage score late otherwise this is a 26-7 beatdown. fuk that
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Had a package for TP, but they only had 47 plays so they couldn’t get him in.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
lmao…they had a package tor terrelle…lmao what a freakin idiot
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Where are you guys watching the post game?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
PLayers who are showing up
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Houston
Streater
Adams
All others are disappearing
December 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Owning the division?
We lost to the Broncos and Chargers last year, swept the Chiefs. Not exactly ownage.
Pre-Manning too makes a SLIGHT difference
December 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Yeah, that’s hard to swallow.
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That’s what she said.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I mentioned the importance of not getting the ball at least to the twenty yard line on kickoff!!! Terrible field position and somehow the Raiders feel the pressure and momentum changes. Easy fix if you dont have the personnel.Take the ball at the twenty!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
They should just paint their faces, this is a joke. And the opposing team can dress up like the batman!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
carson palmers qb rating in the first quarter this year is in the low 60s. the raiders havent scored in the first quarter in the last 10 games,.this is a big problem
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
This team needs a #1 receiver and two pass rushers, and some secondary help
>> oh thats not that bad. i think they they need 11 starters on defense and maybe 6 new starters on offense.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I too have given up on Palmer.
Thanks for nothing.
Mistic, I concede. You were right.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
DA never mentions the Offense.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
riff i thought you were the expert?….csn bayarea…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I too have given up on Palmer.
Thanks for nothing.
Mistic, I concede. You were right.
>. no man, palmer is part black didn’t you hear? so mystic is cool with him now
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
eastoak
see Denver O with that depleted O-line?
Didn’t miss a beat. Why? WRs are studs, QB is a stud.
That’s what you need.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
big pep Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
CARSON HAS FOR DAMN SURE BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM, ITS TIME TO MOVE ON AND GET RID OF HIM. GARBAGE TIME T.DS AND BAD PICKS GAME AFTER GAME.
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Yes, Palmer is good half the time. The other 25% his line is letting him down and helping him fail, the last 25% is all on Palmer’s bad decisions. Yet, he is the best option we have..unless Leinert comes in and takes sacks instead of tossing picks.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Where are you guys watching the post game?
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I thought you were such a fkn know it all? Lol.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
You now what I hate more than anything? It seems that any team/player that plays the Raiders sets records or has career performances.
Salt in the wound.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
riff i thought you were the expert?….csn bayarea…
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Link? Nothing is on their website.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
2romes Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I mentioned the importance of not getting the ball at least to the twenty yard line on kickoff!!! Terrible field position and somehow the Raiders feel the pressure and momentum changes. Easy fix if you dont have the personnel.Take the ball at the twenty!
>. with so much horrible play on the Offense and defense i honestly haven’t even thought about the crappy umm “return” game.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
von miller wears glasses. maybes barnes should try a pair so he can try to block someone
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
DA never mentions the Offense.
>. can you blame him?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
To Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie,
If you truly want to turn this franchise and team around, then get serious and do whatever it takes to bring back a REAL head coach and leader of men like Jon Gruden to work with McKenzie and get this thing fixed for good!
DA and his staff of clowns is not going to cut it!
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Where are you guys watching the post game?
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I thought you were such a fkn know it all? Lol.
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Knowing what you dont know, is more important that what you do know.
Im not afraid to ask questions.
Your slights are just proof of my intellectual superiority to you.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pass rush goes a long way in determining how well your D plays, it doesn’t have to be sacks, it can be quick pressure leading to mistakes by qb’s hits on qbs while he’s throwing, we’re far from that, and we did well when we got the qb, almost had him throw 3 ints
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
live on directv…
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
nyc
no WAY anyone could turn this roster over in one season.
2013 = 7 wins (improvement) and Geno Smith draft pick.
2014 = Reggie better have built a winner by then.
I’ll agree to that
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Geno Smith? QB is not the problem its protecting the QB thats the problem as Von Miller just demonstrated. Would Geno have gotten away from Miller? Ok, thank you.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
nycraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
von miller wears glasses. maybes barnes should try a pair so he can try to block someone
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Barnes needs to wear someone else’s jersey.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
its offensive to him…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
morilla Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
You now what I hate more than anything? It seems that any team/player that plays the Raiders sets records or has career performances.
Salt in the wound.
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Not a lot you can do when the guys you’re playing are bigger and faster than you. Our guys are just weak. Not all, but way too many.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wanting to stick with DA ahead of possibly bringing back Gruden is like the Niners sticking with Singletary ahead of Harbaugh!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
ese…thats what ive been saying…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
I had a feeling the game would not be close but it was a decent game because they fought and had a fews different offensive plays.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raidervill Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Pass Rusher, CB’s, RT, WR, Blocking TE’s, needed.
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If we pass up on any proven guys like TO, Plax, Chad, or Moss again this year, I will be all over Reggie.
We need a vet WR in the worst way.
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I agree. I thought Plax or TO could’ve made a big difference for us this year. I know those guys are head cases, but they’re successful players that know how to compete. They’re also big targets that can go up and get the ball on 3rd down and in the red zone — something we were sorely lacking this year. I’ve been calling for this since the preseason. Could’ve made a big difference this year.
And not having a speed edge rusher was basically criminal. Been calling that one since before Reggie cut Wimbley. Said Wimbley was overpaid, but we probably should’ve kept him since pass rushers come at a premium and we didn’t have anyone else who could bring pressure off the edge. Reggie ignored this need.
Raises some serious questions about the guy that he couldn’t see what us diehards could plainly see.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
DA never mentions the Offense.
>. can you blame him?
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Yeah, he needs to hold Knapp and offense accountable too.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
The Oracle Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
nycraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
von miller wears glasses. maybes barnes should try a pair so he can try to block someone
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Barnes needs to wear someone else’s jersey.
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yeah, about two years ago.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
QB isn’t the problem NOW Eastoak.
I agree. Problem WILL be a problem by 2014 when we’re legitimately ready to compete.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
eastoak
see Denver O with that depleted O-line?
Didn’t miss a beat. Why? WRs are studs, QB is a stud.
That’s what you need.
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How many sacks have we had all season? and how many did we have tonight? Cant wait to see that oline in the PO’s
December 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
except DA pulls his shirt off in the locker room instead of trou…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
cfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pass rush goes a long way in determining how well your D plays, it doesn’t have to be sacks, it can be quick pressure leading to mistakes by qb’s hits on qbs while he’s throwing, we’re far from that, and we did well when we got the qb, almost had him throw 3 ints
>> so this was the Raiders best game of the year defensively and they were still completely dominated. 26 points TOP, rush yards pass yards. worst defense I’ve ever seen they might top the Rams in 2000, that was the last defense that remember being THIS bad. i just wonder if they’ll reach that glorious 500 point milestone as a defense.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
If Raiders want to freaking call 10 pass plays to 3 run plays then they need to get a #1 Receiver, i know many people love this WR group but save for occasional drag routes and beating receivers deep, these guys can’t get open play after play, they don’t demand double teams,I don’t think Run game was that bad in this game either, Mcfadden actually broke some long runs, We got to get consistent with running the ball and also stop being predictable, you can’t expect plays over and over just because the previous play went for long yards, unless you have beast pass protection and beast receivers
December 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Fire knapp today. Fire tarver yesterday. So tired of being a joke, wish our team would play with some heart. But for some reason we play evry week like we got our balls cut off
December 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
bartell no int since 2008, the streak continues
December 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pass rush goes a long way in determining how well your D plays, it doesn’t have to be sacks, it can be quick pressure leading to mistakes by qb’s hits on qbs while he’s throwing, we’re far from that, and we did well when we got the qb, almost had him throw 3 ints
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If I am GM, I am taking 2 DE’s with my 1st and second. No 2nd you say, well I traded DMC for a late 2nd….
DE is the deepest talent pool in the draft.F Geno Smith.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wanting to stick with DA ahead of possibly bringing back Gruden is like the Niners sticking with Singletary ahead of Harbaugh!
>. Gruden is coming here man. rumors LIKE THAT ONE don;t just appear during the season. It’ll happen
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
The efficient running game we has the last two years has been destroyed by DA, Knapp and Pollack….when it didn’t need to be.
This coaching staff is terrible!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
The Oracle Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
big pep Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
CARSON HAS FOR DAMN SURE BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM, ITS TIME TO MOVE ON AND GET RID OF HIM. GARBAGE TIME T.DS AND BAD PICKS GAME AFTER GAME.
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Yes, Palmer is good half the time. The other 25% his line is letting him down and helping him fail, the last 25% is all on Palmer’s bad decisions. Yet, he is the best option we have..unless Leinert comes in and takes sacks instead of tossing picks.
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In preseason i thought that leinert looked better than palmer in that O, but what do i know? im no expert and had to listen to Palmer say schyt like, we were trying different things and its a very basic package type thing in the preseason. today the entire O, looks no better with him. did you notice when the camera went to peyton all his lineman and O players were around him talking? but when it went to Carson he was by himself next to that Dic G.Krapp.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
reggie didnt know his brother is the one talking to gruden
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Is Geno smith worth the 1st overall pick?
Just asking.
Palmer isn’t going to take the Raiders anywhere.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
It’s mind numbing how dumb some guys are in here.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
he Oracle Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pass rush goes a long way in determining how well your D plays, it doesn’t have to be sacks, it can be quick pressure leading to mistakes by qb’s hits on qbs while he’s throwing, we’re far from that, and we did well when we got the qb, almost had him throw 3 ints
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If I am GM, I am taking 2 DE’s with my 1st and second. No 2nd you say, well I traded DMC for a late 2nd….
DE is the deepest talent pool in the draft.F Geno Smith.
>> who would give anything higher than a 5th round pick for McAnkle? build the oline man. you could have von miller and aldon smith and it wouldn’t matter when they are on the field 40 minutes a game. wears them down. Offense can’t even sustain more than 1 drive a game.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Where are you guys watching the post game?
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I thought you were such a fkn know it all? Lol.
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LOL “I played football I know more than you” in my third grade retarded voice.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wanting to stick with DA ahead of possibly bringing back Gruden is like the Niners sticking with Singletary ahead of Harbaugh!
>. Gruden is coming here man. rumors LIKE THAT ONE don;t just appear during the season. It’ll happen
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Raider Nation needs to pray it happens….otherwise this team and franchise is going nowhere….fast!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
cfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pass rush goes a long way in determining how well your D plays, it doesn’t have to be sacks, it can be quick pressure leading to mistakes by qb’s hits on qbs while he’s throwing, we’re far from that, and we did well when we got the qb, almost had him throw 3 ints
>> so this was the Raiders best game of the year defensively and they were still completely dominated. 26 points TOP, rush yards pass yards. worst defense I’ve ever seen they might top the Rams in 2000, that was the last defense that remember being THIS bad. i just wonder if they’ll reach that glorious 500 point milestone as a defense.
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It wasn’t that great we still had to bring in more than 4 guys to put pressure, but just saying when you get near qbs good things happen, now if we can put pressure with natural 4 and send 1 of the guy to help out the secondary, then we’re talking , but just making a point that how much pass rushers from edge will make a difference
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
adams thinks the defense played very good..lmao
December 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
btw, we had a very good offensive line last year.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Is Geno smith worth the 1st overall pick?
Just asking.
Palmer isn’t going to take the Raiders anywhere.
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Not to the Raiders. We can win 17 point games…if we stop giving up 17+ per games. We need to stop the civ that that ids our D. Then start winning half our games by scoring 17+ and build on that. That is Reggie’s plan.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Summary of tonight’s game:
• poor O-line play, especially on right side
• DMac play, nothing special
• wide receiver play poor, many dropped passes
• QB play spotty at best, 1 dumb INT
• play calling, really non-existent
• TE play, where?
• DB play, as expected. Bartell garbage. Adams showed up.
• LB play, so-so.
• D-line, better than lately but still not a threat
• Special team play, not special
• Coaching, really hard to tell.
Team performance, better first half, no halt time adjustments.
• the good news, at least we didn’t screw up our draft position.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Raiders aren’t even an NFL team.
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Then you aren’t a Raider fan. Whatever the record, back your goddamn team.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
You figure a good coaching staff would at least have this team put up a fight on a week in week out basis.
Why is Pryor not getting any snaps??
Crappy coaching staff doesn’t know how to use him…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Rookie mistake by Allen bringing Knapp back. Soon as this sh!tstink of a season is over, can him and let’s move on. I’m not so hard on Tarver because the defensive unit is just weak. They get knocked around and hurt every week. Need bigger, stronger players.
Goldson is the exception to the little guy rule, but Branch or Giordano never lay the wood like that.
Palmer may benefit from a better line but we need to start thinking about plan b.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
riff i thought you were the expert?….csn bayarea…
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“My Name is Riff I played for a school nobody’s ever heard of, you could learn a thing or two from me” LOL what a dumbass.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
The Oracle Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pass rush goes a long way in determining how well your D plays, it doesn’t have to be sacks, it can be quick pressure leading to mistakes by qb’s hits on qbs while he’s throwing, we’re far from that, and we did well when we got the qb, almost had him throw 3 ints
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If I am GM, I am taking 2 DE’s with my 1st and second. No 2nd you say, well I traded DMC for a late 2nd….
DE is the deepest talent pool in the draft.F Geno Smith.
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We don’t need a QB, Palmer is fine, when the team stops asking him to throw 15 times in a row, they need to keep Ds on toes and make them wonder if it will be a run play or pass play, Knapp is just like a Madden13 who keeps doing same things over and over if the play worked once and then he never tries it when it fails once, so he need to get his head out of his ass and stop with that madness, and keep the run/pass 50/50 and also try not to go deep on every play, how about some screens, and other stuff
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
adams thinks the defense played very good..lmao
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They did. The Palmer turnover in the red zone (when Von Miller forced the fumble), pretty much changed momentum. They had to settle for a lot more fg’s tonight.
They showed up, just bad execution in some phases. … game was a lot closer than people think – of course five straight losses meant complaining , trolling people expecting a blow out.
The Raiders werent going to allow that.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
sam…thats why he is soo pissd off they have turned our team into a joke..,
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
We won’t compete until 2014.
Palmer will be 35 then, and NOT improving.
Umm, we need a QB of the future.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
37 minutes to 22 minutes Time of Possession. 25% 3rd down conversion.
DA never mentions it.
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The pc is usually right after the head coach addresses the team, which is usually right after walking into the locker room.
Ignorant of you to assume some rushed to give him time of possession numbers minutes after the game.
Oh why bother?
You’ll make the same comment a half dozen times in the next 24 hours.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
“Why is Pryor not getting any snaps??”
Because he is what you call “3rd String” and you have to beat out the “2nd String” guy first you see, then you beat out the “1st String” guy….THEN you can play…..got it?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
It would be nice if Palmer could move a little, he’s no Peyton Manning, who beats you with his head.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
arkraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Can someone help me out. What was the deal with Palmers sack/fumble? It looked like a forward pass? It sure looked like a forward pass or at least a tuck rule thing? Yet the Donkeys got the ball with no delay? Aren’t all turnovers reviewed? Did they? And if so did I see it wrong?
Somebody help me out please and thank you
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It was a fumble.
If the tuck rule actually existed as something that was ever actually enforced then it probably would go under that category. But we all know the tuck rule was such a sham because the rule is never actually interpreted that way.
The tuck rule was an after-the-fact coverup for another blatant robbery of the Raiders. Coleman never said anything about tucking the ball or anything that would indicate that was the call. After reviewing the play for like 10 minutes and supposedly getting on the phone to talk with the league office, Coleman came out and said “the quarterback’s arm was going forward. It was an incomplete pass.” The “Tuck Rule” explanation was something after the fact cooked up by the league’s PR dept.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
>> who would give anything higher than a 5th round pick for McAnkle? build the oline man. you could have von miller and aldon smith and it wouldn’t matter when they are on the field 40 minutes a game. wears them down. Offense can’t even sustain more than 1 drive a game.
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That second would have to come as part of a trade down of the first..yes.
But, we can win 17 point games…if we stop giving up 17+ per games. We need to stop the civ that that ids our D. Then start winning half our games by scoring 17+ and build on that. That is Reggie’s plan.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
adams thinks the defense played very good..lmao
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Actually, they played well enough to win, but it was the offense once again..Not that I’m excusing the coaches.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
Now, a pass-rushing 3-4 OLB/ light 4-3 DE tweener? I’m all for that.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Raiders aren’t even an NFL team.
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Then you aren’t a Raider fan. Whatever the record, back your goddamn team.
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You rock, Samantha.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
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very much so. and the QB class is looking like 2008-09 – (other than Bradford) so forget a QB to replace Palmer.
definitely a trade down type deal, but the first overall pick is a disaster – they almost have to trade down … too many juniors and undeveloped players playing on stacked teams that make them look a lot better .
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
The Oracle Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Is Geno smith worth the 1st overall pick?
Just asking.
Palmer isn’t going to take the Raiders anywhere.
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not just no but HELL NO, we need more help with our MLB that now doesnt care and both sides of the lines along with DBs. We have to get a good look at pryor while we build our lines and Palmer must take a pay cut. to the tune of Minimum wage.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Team recognizes Palmer improves individual aspects of their game, but does not lead the team.
DA must recognize, Palmer has lost the team.
It’s almost like each game is a practice session to improve each players development, rather than a will to win.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
The worst f@c% ing defense ever. Its embarrassing being a raiders fan. Why is it every year we say cant wait for next year. When will it be our year. Its unacceptable what is happening. There must be change made starting with the coaches. At my job if i produced a product similar to wait the raiders are putting on the field i would have been fired asap. HEADS NEED TO ROLL!!!!!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Raiders aren’t even an NFL team.
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Then you aren’t a Raider fan. Whatever the record, back your goddamn team.
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You rock, Samantha.
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They’re you go sweet talking me again, Sully.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
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Star and its not close.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
#3? you think they will beat the chiefs? the offensive player of the week quinn? cmon man.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
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But just because not all turn out to be as expected, you can’t pass over a DE like Damontre Moore from Texas A&M, would you rather go with Shaugnessy and Houston again?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
arkraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Can someone help me out. What was the deal with Palmers sack/fumble? It looked like a forward pass? It sure looked like a forward pass or at least a tuck rule thing? Yet the Donkeys got the ball with no delay? Aren’t all turnovers reviewed? Did they? And if so did I see it wrong?
Somebody help me out please and thank you
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It was a fumble.
If the tuck rule actually existed as something that was ever actually enforced then it probably would go under that category. But we all know the tuck rule was such a sham because the rule is never actually interpreted that way.
The tuck rule was an after-the-fact coverup for another blatant robbery of the Raiders. Coleman never said anything about tucking the ball or anything that would indicate that was the call. After reviewing the play for like 10 minutes and supposedly getting on the phone to talk with the league office, Coleman came out and said “the quarterback’s arm was going forward. It was an incomplete pass.” The “Tuck Rule” explanation was something after the fact cooked up by the league’s PR dept.
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Exactly! People go watch the documentary “Evidence of Revision”…That’s what the “tuck rule” was all about.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
It would be nice if Palmer could move a little, he’s no Peyton Manning, who beats you with his head.
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Our line sucks. But you knew that.
He’s Alex Smith East, but worse with the football. He’s a QB that will never carry a team, he wins as the defense wins. And, well, our defense hasn’t been winning around here a for a looonng time.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Team recognizes Palmer improves individual aspects of their game, but does not lead the team.
DA must recognize, Palmer has lost the team.
It’s almost like each game is a practice session to improve each players development, rather than a will to win.
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No, its DA who’s lost the team, and Palmer tries to do too much (resulting in picks).
December 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
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Star and its not close.
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I agree, a MLB is wothless in today’s NFL(for a top 5 pick I mean)
December 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
No, you don’t draft a MLB in the high first round.
“McClain and Jon Beason of Carolina are the only true middle linebackers taken in the first round in the past five drafts.”
Even the 49ers with their SUPER MLB were terrible until their O improved.
It’s an O league people, it’s simple.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Thanks Riff,
A backward pass? Looked like he was facing downfield and his hand with ball in it was going forward when the ball came out? That’s incomplete or at least tuck?
Explain more – what did I miss?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
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But just because not all turn out to be as expected, you can’t pass over a DE like Damontre Moore from Texas A&M, would you rather go with Shaugnessy and Houston again?
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So you want Demontre Moore at 3 or trade down spots for a 2nd round pick to get another impact player like a corner? Keep in mind Rolando McClain is gone as well…so he needs to be replaced.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
No one is defending DA except the media…especially jerry and cork
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
SHoulda coulda woulda’s even though everyone agree’s that Knapp s8cks , the team still leaves points on the board with drops and other miscues, you can’t excuse players either
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
We won’t compete until 2014.
Palmer will be 35 then, and NOT improving.
Umm, we need a QB of the future.
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Umm, TP?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
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Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Te’o, Te’o, Te’o!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
starting FS = cut by the Falcons.
starting CB Hanson = cut by 49ers and Eagles.
other starting CB = cut by 49ers
starting OLB Wheeler = cut by Colts.
starting MLB = cut by Panthers.
starting WR = undrafted out of Temple.
it’s going to take some time.
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Freakin Word!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
It is not a primary receiver problem. The passing game get stalled by a rotation of blunders. Coaching is the first to blame ! Don’t you notice all the disconnect between Carson and the receivers to often. receivers in the right spot and the quarterback knowing that they are there going to be there is more than half the battle.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
My sources told me that TP will start the second half next week. He’ll have 10 days with the #1’s. This info is to legit to quit.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
It is clear that knapp is not a very good o coordinator. He is a good man and seems nice. I wish him all the success in the world. But I would like him to do something else on another team next year…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
romo called out mark and da again…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
No, you don’t draft a MLB in the high first round.
“McClain and Jon Beason of Carolina are the only true middle linebackers taken in the first round in the past five drafts.”
Even the 49ers with their SUPER MLB were terrible until their O improved.
It’s an O league people, it’s simple.
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so its Tyler Bray, Keenan Allen or trading down for Robert Woods, and stockpile picks and address everything else later?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Lo and Romo just said the Coaches have to improve
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
No, you don’t draft a MLB in the high first round.
“McClain and Jon Beason of Carolina are the only true middle linebackers taken in the first round in the past five drafts.”
Even the 49ers with their SUPER MLB were terrible until their O improved.
It’s an O league people, it’s simple.
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Huh? Willis has always been a beast though!
Te’o is a beast! Raiders need a REAL LB to help rebuild the defense!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
understand the concern about DA being over his head, but give the guy a break, his dad died this week..
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
>> DT Lotulelei for sure
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
No one is defending DA except the media…especially jerry and cork
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Add Mayock to the list
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
This team is lucky to call itself an NFL franchise. Lowest point I have seen us at since 2006. Pathetic in all three phases of the game. Yoy wanna talk about Rebuilding? You got it baby! This team is stripped down to about 5 capable players. Hue was right when he said they were going to ‘gut the place’— and wow, the results have been ‘impressive’
>> raiders are 51 points away from setting a new franchise record for sh*ttiest defense in OAK raider lore
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Yep, feels about right for sure…Lucky we hired us a “Defensive Minded Coach”
FML…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
You can’t expect any coach to show like he will win superbowls in their rookie years, i don’t think Tom Landry was expected to only of the 13 coaches ever to win Multiple SB’s after going 0-11-1 in his rookie year, Chuck Noll had 3 straight losing years , but look at him only guy ever to win 4 SBs
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Hate to type this but after this run I too have had enough of Palmer.
Had been a major supporter.
No more.
Lets see what the kid has. for several reasons…
2013 draft…we need a qb o is tp6 something worth developing?
He should start all 3 games. i honestly think allen might go for this…out of desperationa nd to show hes not LOST IN SPACE ROOBOT
he NEEDS wins and its clear palmer self destructs at the wost time possible
to be sure our line is a bunch of BLOCKHEADS that cant block.
however tp (unlike ROBOT cp)can roll out and run for a 1st down or 2. we NEED an active q with what we have at OL…gives us time to get a better line…
cp3 will throw 1-2 ints a game (usually at critical times/places)..and he cant escape pressure..ever..and as an added bonus 1/3 sacks is a sack/fumble with this guy.
he has been a warrior i give him that…and hes taken the blame..again pro…BUT HES NOT THE ANSWER esp at 17Mil
thanks carson but heres the door.
hopefully both he and allen and the rest of the KLOWN KOACH KADRE is gone 3 weeks and 4 days from now…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
starting FS = cut by the Falcons.
starting CB Hanson = cut by 49ers and Eagles.
other starting CB = cut by 49ers
starting OLB Wheeler = cut by Colts.
starting MLB = cut by Panthers.
starting WR = undrafted out of Temple.
it’s going to take some time.
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Freakin Word!
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MLB London Fletcher undrafted
CB Cortland Finnegan 7th round pick
WR Marques Colston 7th round pick
CB Tramon Williams (off the Houston Texan practice squad)
WR Miles Austin (undrafted)
that argument goes both ways
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Coaching is suspect too when tonight we had a six minute drive and it was the longest of the season…when we have yet to score on a opening possession…and when I am sitting n the couch calling plays that are going to be run. Nice guy though…he can be a nice guy somewhere else.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
^^^^^^^^^^
Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
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But just because not all turn out to be as expected, you can’t pass over a DE like Damontre Moore from Texas A&M, would you rather go with Shaugnessy and Houston again?
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So you want Demontre Moore at 3 or trade down spots for a 2nd round pick to get another impact player like a corner? Keep in mind Rolando McClain is gone as well…so he needs to be replaced.
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Trade down, pick up a late first rounder and a second rounder, then with the late first rounder take the best olinemen available and with the second take the best defensive player available.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
im sure da is a good guy…but he is not a coach…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Hate to type this but after this run I too have had enough of Palmer.
Had been a major supporter.
No more.
Lets see what the kid has. for several reasons…
2013 draft…we need a qb o is tp6 something worth developing?
He should start all 3 games. i honestly think allen might go for this…out of desperationa nd to show hes not LOST IN SPACE ROOBOT
he NEEDS wins and its clear palmer self destructs at the wost time possible
to be sure our line is a bunch of BLOCKHEADS that cant block.
however tp (unlike ROBOT cp)can roll out and run for a 1st down or 2. we NEED an active q with what we have at OL…gives us time to get a better line…
cp3 will throw 1-2 ints a game (usually at critical times/places)..and he cant escape pressure..ever..and as an added bonus 1/3 sacks is a sack/fumble with this guy.
he has been a warrior i give him that…and hes taken the blame..again pro…BUT HES NOT THE ANSWER esp at 17Mil
thanks carson but heres the door.
hopefully both he and allen and the rest of the KLOWN KOACH KADRE is gone 3 weeks and 4 days from now…
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unless Geno Smith is Robert Wilson or Matt Barkley is Andy Dalton
be prepared for a few more frustrating, teasing type 6-10 or 7-9 years…..
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
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Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o
>> are you sure? McClain was suppose to be the QB too. i just don’t linebackers being as important on a Defense as the defensive line, especially the DT.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Raider_UnHater Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
The worst f@c% ing defense ever. Its embarrassing being a raiders fan. Why is it every year we say cant wait for next year. When will it be our year. Its unacceptable what is happening. There must be change made starting with the coaches. At my job if i produced a product similar to wait the raiders are putting on the field i would have been fired asap. HEADS NEED TO ROLL!!!!!
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sigh.
You forgot “off with their heads”.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Lol! Sullivan licking azz and supporting the whole “raiders fans should always support their team” stuff. Isn’t this the guy who’s been on here for years bashing them daily and ALWAYS predicting losses?
Sullivan the liar strikes again!
Total loser.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
#3? you think they will beat the chiefs? the offensive player of the week quinn? cmon man.
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#1 pick KC
#2 pick Jacksonville
#3 pick Oakland
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
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But just because not all turn out to be as expected, you can’t pass over a DE like Damontre Moore from Texas A&M, would you rather go with Shaugnessy and Houston again?
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So you want Demontre Moore at 3 or trade down spots for a 2nd round pick to get another impact player like a corner? Keep in mind Rolando McClain is gone as well…so he needs to be replaced.
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Trade down, pick up a late first rounder and a second rounder, then with the late first rounder take the best olinemen available and with the second take the best defensive player available.
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Now you’re talking. That’ll work.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mcfadd
personally I want a 3-4 so you can find pass-rushing OLB cheaper in the mid-rounds.
It’s an O league so I want the O improved before I take on the DE problem.
It is a problem, but not a top-3 pick problem, unless we run a 3-4 like Denver and Von Miller
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
>> DT Lotulelei for sure
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Take Te’o or trade down.
Te’o would be the new leader of the defense and quarterback of the defense.
Lotulelei is not a QB of a defense and is not a captain.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
To all the Dumbasses who say we lack Talen at WR you guys have got to be kidding me, are they young? yes do they make mistakes? yes, But not talented? GTFOH Moore has loads of talent and same goes for Ford who we miss dearly, and Streater looks like a baller too. Wrs arent the prob Carson is running for his life, back peddling, and throwing off his back foot on a lot of throws. We wont see cosistency out of any part of the offense until we get the oline fixed. When Carson can sit back there and have a cup of coffee like Gannon used to then and only then will we see our Wrs and RBs have success. Oh yeah and fire knapp.
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Dude, My 5 month old daughter is a helmet and shoulder pads away from giving Moore a concussion and tossing him around like a rag-doll…He is too small and too fragile and too inept to become anything close to a Marvin Harrison or a Steve Smith….how many times did those guys get benched for…ummmm..sucking?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
another DA lover…paul guitterez…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Lol! Sullivan licking azz and supporting the whole “raiders fans should always support their team” stuff. Isn’t this the guy who’s been on here for years bashing them daily and ALWAYS predicting losses?
Sullivan the liar strikes again!
Total loser.
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Yeah, the “raiders suck, why dont they do something” argument is so much more compelling *eyes roll*
Sully plays favorites, and people fall for him like a troll magnet.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Watching al davis fu€k his mom I the azz and suck it really took a toll on Sullivan’s mental health.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
You can’t expect any coach to show like he will win superbowls in their rookie years, i don’t think Tom Landry was expected to only of the 13 coaches ever to win Multiple SB’s after going 0-11-1 in his rookie year, Chuck Noll had 3 straight losing years , but look at him only guy ever to win 4 SBs
>. belicheat was 5-11 first year with the PATS. but i just don’t know that his team was this pathetic man.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
another DA lover…paul gutierrez…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
^^^^^^^^^^
Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o!
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You got it wrong pal you dont take a MLB with the 3rd pick, there have been plenty DT taken high in the draft BJ Raji and Glen Dorsey to name a few recently. when is the last time you saw a MLB taken in the top 5?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
draft a DE? LOL
“More 1st round DEs wash out than succeed”
One of the riskiest picks in the 1st round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2035388
Now, a pass-rushing 3-4 OLB/ light 4-3 DE tweener? I’m all for that.
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I am all for an OLB that can rush and support run in a 4-3. That is more far-fetched than a 4-3 DE if you ask me.
YES DE. DE all day!
I go:
1. DE
2.DE
3. CB
4. CB
5. FS
or some variation of that in the draft. It all depends on FA action, but we are not gonna find a top-notch DE let go by another team. No way. Address the O in FA…we will have cash.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I’m not defending DA, it would have been one thing if he took over a legit team but you can’t freaking blame everything on him, can’t compare him to last years team, many multiple SB winning coaches struggled in their rookie years, you can’t argue against that, and please don’t tell me they must have showed something to stay.. it’s just common knowledge to give people time when they’re doing something for the first time
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Does anyone else think we r the worst team in The league. Kansas city is going beat us then carolina then a beat down from, he chargers. Words cant even express my dissapointment. Sad would be a good word to start with. Sad offense. Sad defense. Sad coaches
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Andrew Brandt@adbrandt
Carson Palmer trade quite a heist. Mike Brown took advantage of a team w/no GM and a desperate coach..who now works for Brown.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
^^^^^^^^^^
Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o
>> are you sure? McClain was suppose to be the QB too. i just don’t linebackers being as important on a Defense as the defensive line, especially the DT.
^^^^^^^^^
Mclain is ghetto and is a quitter. Te’o is not ghetto and is certainly NOT a quitter.
Te’o can cover also and is all heart and soul.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
>> DT Lotulelei for sure
^^^^^^^^
Take Te’o or trade down.
Te’o would be the new leader of the defense and quarterback of the defense.
Lotulelei is not a QB of a defense and is not a captain.
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So its “team leader” needed. Te’o ends up like Rams lb Laurenitis – a good lb, but not a great game changer … however, you can stockpile picks. This draft has a LOT of juniors coming out….i’m starting to think only Gruden has a prayer of turning this mess around.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Btw DA seems like a good dude! But let him go back and coach Tyler Texas State! He is not the man for the Raiders.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Somebody help me – the sack/ fumble of Carson’s – what was up with that? Looked like incomplete forward pass or at least tuck? Yet ball goes to the donkeys?
Riff responded that it was a backwards pass?
I still don’t get it! Can someone explain why there wasn’t a review and why Denver got the ball?
Maybe I saw it wrong but I still don’t get it?
Someone please explain what they saw/know. Thanks
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
3-13…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
What a shame to put out a team like this in front of Raiders HOF legends, a total disrespect to lay down to the donkeys.
Carcux continues to mount losses and “costly” (according to JMac) turnovers, but he’ll skate once again with the help of all his apologists, of course it isn’t his fault, right? It’s never his fault, having a “career” year and all, and “we” want him back again, it’s the “smart” thing say the local mouthpieces.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Andrew Brandt@adbrandt
Carson Palmer trade quite a heist. Mike Brown took advantage of a team w/no GM and a desperate coach..who now works for Brown.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
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Ummm….it was a mistake to get rid of the coach who traded for Palmer after only a half season working with him.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
>> DT Lotulelei for sure
^^^^^^^^
Take Te’o or trade down.
Te’o would be the new leader of the defense and quarterback of the defense.
Lotulelei is not a QB of a defense and is not a captain.
>> what good is an MLB when the DLINE gets pushed back into him constantly? raider dline has regressed and will be ATROCIOUS next year, they are now really. seymour AND kelly are gone. who will anchor the middle of that line? its a matter of preference i guess.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Trading out of a top-5 pick is absurd.
You don’t pass up franchise-changing possible guys for a low 1st O-lineman (Matt Stinchcomb!) and a 2nd round D-lineman (Hello Lamar Houston!)
Franchise players is what we need, not two possible ok players.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Sullivan has ALWAYS took whatever side was AGAINST the board’s current popular thought. He is ONLY here to try to wreak havoc. That’s what makes him such a loser. His entire life’s function is to try cause misery. He’s pathetic.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
yes, many of the people that were disinterested in the Raiders seem to be pulling for Reggie and Dennis. They also appear to have a loud voice.I and many Raider fans want them to do well also but we don’t give free passes.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
tuckrulefool Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
the KLOWN KOACH KADRE
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It sounds like a bad western…
I love it.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
^^^^^^^^^^
Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o
>> are you sure? McClain was suppose to be the QB too. i just don’t linebackers being as important on a Defense as the defensive line, especially the DT.
^^^^^^^^^
Mclain is ghetto and is a quitter. Te’o is not ghetto and is certainly NOT a quitter.
Te’o can cover also and is all heart and soul.
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I just hope he isnt Rudy … or another Dat Nguyen… a lot of heart, but just not a game changer like Beason … maybe another Zach Thomas. Have to watch that championship game closely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTqORaw8ipg
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
To all the Dumbasses who say we lack Talen at WR you guys have got to be kidding me, are they young? yes do they make mistakes? yes, But not talented? GTFOH Moore has loads of talent and same goes for Ford who we miss dearly, and Streater looks like a baller too. Wrs arent the prob Carson is running for his life, back peddling, and throwing off his back foot on a lot of throws. We wont see cosistency out of any part of the offense until we get the oline fixed. When Carson can sit back there and have a cup of coffee like Gannon used to then and only then will we see our Wrs and RBs have success. Oh yeah and fire knapp.
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Dude, My 5 month old daughter is a helmet and shoulder pads away from giving Moore a concussion and tossing him around like a rag-doll…He is too small and too fragile and too inept to become anything close to a Marvin Harrison or a Steve Smith….how many times did those guys get benched for…ummmm..sucking?
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How bad was Jerry Rice his first few season’s? Stone Hands bad. Tim Brown’s Stats are nothing to look at either his first few years. Look it up.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
and when a team DOES trade out of a top-5 pick (2012, Rams) they get THREE 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder…
not a low 1st and 2nd.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wanting to stick with DA ahead of possibly bringing back Gruden is like the Niners sticking with Singletary ahead of Harbaugh!
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Ding DING DING.. We have a winner! exactly
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Sullivan has ALWAYS took whatever side was AGAINST the board’s current popular thought. He is ONLY here to try to wreak havoc. That’s what makes him such a loser. His entire life’s function is to try cause misery. He’s pathetic.
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Point taken. Dont feed the trolls.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I’m not defending DA, it would have been one thing if he took over a legit team but you can’t freaking blame everything on him, can’t compare him to last years team, many multiple SB winning coaches struggled in their rookie years, you can’t argue against that, and please don’t tell me they must have showed something to stay.. it’s just common knowledge to give people time when they’re doing something for the first time
>> how many double digits losses do the raiders have this year? and what is the NFL record for that?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mcfadd
personally I want a 3-4 so you can find pass-rushing OLB cheaper in the mid-rounds.
It’s an O league so I want the O improved before I take on the DE problem.
It is a problem, but not a top-3 pick problem, unless we run a 3-4 like Denver and Von Miller
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O is not that far away from being good, they are just #1 legit receiver and solid #2 and a RT away from becoming good, D’s highest ceiling next year would be above average, if they can get 2 pass rushers, they are far from becoming a good unit
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Lo and Romo just said the Coaches have to improve
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Lo?
Who is Lo?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
lol…klown koach kadre…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
another DA lover…paul guitterez…
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Yup
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Rice, Brown, Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison = 1st round picks. People knew what they would become.
Moore? 5th rounder. Solid but not 1st round potential.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
and when a team DOES trade out of a top-5 pick (2012, Rams) they get THREE 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder…
not a low 1st and 2nd.
>> Raiders could end up with 2nd overall pick. 2 first rounders would be a dream. no RG III this time
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
^^^^^^^^^^
Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o
>> are you sure? McClain was suppose to be the QB too. i just don’t linebackers being as important on a Defense as the defensive line, especially the DT.
^^^^^^^^^^^
A fat two gap NT type can be found in Round 3 or Round 4 if necessary.
Take the stud LB Te’o and build that defense around him.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Id take lotuleilei because teo isnt going to be that effective unless he has a true big nasty infront of him to keep him clean… Id draft lotuleilei and sign larry grant from the niners as a fa to fill that lb spot.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Trading out of a top-5 pick is absurd.
You don’t pass up franchise-changing possible guys for a low 1st O-lineman (Matt Stinchcomb!) and a 2nd round D-lineman (Hello Lamar Houston!)
Franchise players is what we need, not two possible ok players.
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If Robert Gallery, or Gaines Adams types are in that first five, of course you trade down. The need is MORE players to fill more holes…a superstar type like Von Miller only comes around 10 years – Is that player Demontre Moore? REALLY?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mcfadd
personally I want a 3-4 so you can find pass-rushing OLB cheaper in the mid-rounds.
It’s an O league so I want the O improved before I take on the DE problem.
It is a problem, but not a top-3 pick problem, unless we run a 3-4 like Denver and Von Miller
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John Fox runs a 4/3.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Andrew Brandt@adbrandt
Carson Palmer trade quite a heist. Mike Brown took advantage of a team w/no GM and a desperate coach..who now works for Brown.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
^^^^^^^^^^
Ummm….it was a mistake to get rid of the coach who traded for Palmer after only a half season working with him.
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Yeah DA is making that quite obvious
December 6th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
“Every once in awhile, a player comes around whose value transcends his numbers”
-Mike Mayock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfkFuJDPd4&feature=endscreen
December 6th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Raider_UnHater Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Does anyone else think we r the worst team in The league. Kansas city is going beat us then carolina then a beat down from, he chargers. Words cant even express my dissapointment. Sad would be a good word to start with. Sad offense. Sad defense. Sad coaches
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We are the worst team…KC can play defense, they will beat us. I say give Pryor his shot.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
215-109…last six games…coaching.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I’m not defending DA, it would have been one thing if he took over a legit team but you can’t freaking blame everything on him, can’t compare him to last years team, many multiple SB winning coaches struggled in their rookie years, you can’t argue against that, and please don’t tell me they must have showed something to stay.. it’s just common knowledge to give people time when they’re doing something for the first time
>> how many double digits losses do the raiders have this year? and what is the NFL record for that?
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That happens when the past regime is drafting guys on D side putting them out of place, McClain 3-4 OLB, and give Guys like 3-4 End Seymour, Kelly, Wimbly, ROutt, top 20 D players money, you can’t expect to win close games when you have horrible pass rush and horrible secondary
December 6th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Right now the consensus is that we have the #3 pick in the 2013 draft. Between DT Star Lotulelei & Manti Te’o, who would you pick?
^^^^^^^^^^
Easy choice. You take the in shape 4 down LB from Te’o to be the new quarterback and leader of the defense for the next 12-15 years.
You don’t take a two gap fat NT with the overall #3 pick. I like Lotulelei, but you just don’t take NT/DT with the #3 pick overall ahead of a quarterback and next captain of the defense in Te’o
>> are you sure? McClain was suppose to be the QB too. i just don’t linebackers being as important on a Defense as the defensive line, especially the DT.
^^^^^^^^^^^
A fat two gap NT type can be found in Round 3 or Round 4 if necessary.
Take the stud LB Te’o and build that defense around him.
>> Star can move man, he’s quick and can rush the passer. guys is a monster in the middle.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
r_robert Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Watching al davis fu€k his mom I the azz and suck it really took a toll on Sullivan’s mental health.
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This is true
December 6th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
215-109…last six games…coaching.
>> thats some bend over and break defense there!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
SOrry meant McClain was a 3-4 ILB ^^**
December 6th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
dont bother alex with facts…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Well the raiders are probably the worst team in the league. Likely wont win again this season.
On the other hand we are one game closer to the “wave of the future”! After another game “getting used to dressing”, Pryor will no doubt run his “start after, then motion to qb, and quick snap it, but get a penalty doing it” play, which will be another giant step towards his “space age attack”. Oh missdick, u treasure.
Also of note is that I made Sullivan cry. Poor baby.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
215-109…last six games…coaching.
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Wow! Our opponents have almost doubled our scoring output!…Another great stat for tits & co
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Do we really need a run stuffer bad or pass rushers? We can’t even get to qb’s unless we freaking send extra 2 or 3 players and our Secondary covers their good really good
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
ok i want an offical copyright for this one…
i started D0A…and then some of u liked my “K-NAPP offense”…
so heres the trifecta…
carson palmer is a stone cold robot back there, right? no mobity whatsoever…
his intials are CP
his number is 3
he is a robot
So how about…
a litle star wars love for our own ROBOT QB…..
CP30…or straight up C3P0….?
im not sure which is better…
the P0 part is good since we are ALL P-Oed at this point and p0 is close to poo…and generally speaking the use of “0″ is justified for anyone on or associated with this sh!+bag team…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mark davis was embarresed said romo…he had hall of famers at the game…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Andrew Brandt@adbrandt
Carson Palmer trade quite a heist. Mike Brown took advantage of a team w/no GM and a desperate coach..who now works for Brown.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
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Yup. Hue Jax brought us Palmer & Curry by trade. free agents TJ Housh & Ndukwe
what a genius!!
3 ex-bengals and a 1st round bust
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Teo Will be exposed by Bama in the title game and his stock will drop.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Carson’s fumble- looked like incomplete forward pass? Did I miss something? Riff said it was a backwards pass but it looked as if Carson was facing and throwing downfield when the ball came out.
Can someone explain what I missed?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Start at wr
December 6th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Id take lotuleilei because teo isnt going to be that effective unless he has a true big nasty infront of him to keep him clean… Id draft lotuleilei and sign larry grant from the niners as a fa to fill that lb spot.
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I think getting a fat two gap NT in Round 3-4 and in FA will be easier than getting a stud MLB/ILB type like Te’o in FA or in Round 3 or 4.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Palmer is better than a lot of starting cornerbacks the problem is you can’t ask him to throw passes play after play, to average receiving group, you need to confuse Ds and make them think about what’s coming on every play instead of calling 5 plays in a row
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
If you go with a drafting a D Linemen within the first 3-4 picks in a draft, than you draft a pass rushing DE or OLB.
Not a one dimensional fat two gap NT/DT.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
MikieG Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
alex7 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
our starting RT = cut by the Jaguars.
starting FS = cut by the Falcons.
starting CB Hanson = cut by 49ers and Eagles.
other starting CB = cut by 49ers
starting OLB Wheeler = cut by Colts.
starting MLB = cut by Panthers.
starting WR = undrafted out of Temple.
it’s going to take some time.
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Freakin Word!
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MLB London Fletcher undrafted
CB Cortland Finnegan 7th round pick
WR Marques Colston 7th round pick
CB Tramon Williams (off the Houston Texan practice squad)
WR Miles Austin (undrafted)
that argument goes both ways
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Well sure it does…None of those guys that you just mentioned though play on the same freakin team! The league is littered with castoffs and wannabe’s who turned out great, Warner, Brady, Foster..etc…
Our rough diamonds all SUCK! Get it!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Ten days of gruden, Pryor, fire Reggie, fire the staff, etc. I might take a vacation from this place for awhile.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mark davis was embarresed said romo…he had hall of famers at the game…
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Good…call up Gruden Mark…And I think Gruden is severely overrated
December 6th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Michael Silver@MikeSilver
What’s worse raider fans? Mani-pedis, bold press conference talk, reckless trade during power vacuum, reggie doesn’t get 2 choose own guy…
Michael Silver@MikeSilver
…Or THIS?
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I think he is implying Mark had reggie fire hue. Either way Mark fugged up
December 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Von Millers don’t come around once a decade, come on.
Revis, Suggs, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, JJ Watt, Cameron Wake, Polamalu, Pierre-Paul, Matthews, Hali, Suh, Cushing, Patrick Peterson, Justin Tuck, Lamar Woodley, Dumerville, NaVorro Bowman.
all in the last 10 drafts.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
In 1997 and 2006 you could feel there was some hope for better things to come Now just doesn’t have the feeling, must be RM being very raw.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Rather put money on Gruden and McK turning this thing around ahead of DA and his clown coaching staff.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Arkraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Carson’s fumble- looked like incomplete forward pass? Did I miss something? Riff said it was a backwards pass but it looked as if Carson was facing and throwing downfield when the ball came out.
Can someone explain what I missed?
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I thought I saw something resembling the tuck rule. He went to throw it, but decided against it and was tucking the ball or trying to put it away. On the way down it looked like it hit one of our lineman’s back and denver dlinemen did the rest.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Palmer is better than a lot of starting cornerbacks the problem is you can’t ask him to throw passes play after play, to average receiving group, you need to confuse Ds and make them think about what’s coming on every play instead of calling 5 plays in a row
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Carson IS better than our starting corners! That’s one big problem.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Trade one or 2 of our players for 2nd round, Draft D Moore, i have seen him play in as DE in 4-3 end in 3-4 and OLB in 3-4, and draft a NT in 2nd , that makes sense
December 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
for 16 million dollars next year. Carson is horrible.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
If you go with a drafting a D Linemen within the first 3-4 picks in a draft, than you draft a pass rushing DE or OLB.
Not a one dimensional fat two gap NT/DT.
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You must havent seen Star play, he will be picked ahead of Teo, like I said Teo will be exposed by Bama in the title game with Womack,Jones, and Fluker coming at him. Ask Jarvis Jones about that Bama oline.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Palmer is better than a lot of starting cornerbacks the problem is you can’t ask him to throw passes play after play, to average receiving group, you need to confuse Ds and make them think about what’s coming on every play instead of calling 5 plays in a row
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Carson IS better than our starting corners! That’s one big problem.
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F8k i meant quarterbacks, too many things on the mind
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mark davis was embarresed said romo…he had hall of famers at the game…
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I chatted that to Corkran.. per verbatim. He moderated that out! haha.
The HOF’ers were embarrassed.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Trade one or 2 of our players for 2nd round, Draft D Moore, i have seen him play in as DE in 4-3 end in 3-4 and OLB in 3-4, and draft a NT in 2nd , that makes sense
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that’s a good start, but you could argue that our secondary is worse off than the line.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Knowshon Moreno had a HUUUUGE night says dumbo ears on NFLN.
He had less than 4 ypc.
He was a workhorse but settle down a bit.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Post 312 @ doc rob hilarious! Lol
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Carson isn’t the problem.
Bigger problems than Carson that is tearing this team down.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Mark davis really needs to make this right after getting rid of hue jackson.
HUE JACKSON looks like a HALL OF FAMER compared to DA/KNAPP
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
If you go with a drafting a D Linemen within the first 3-4 picks in a draft, than you draft a pass rushing DE or OLB.
Not a one dimensional fat two gap NT/DT.
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You must havent seen Star play, he will be picked ahead of Teo, like I said Teo will be exposed by Bama in the title game with Womack,Jones, and Fluker coming at him. Ask Jarvis Jones about that Bama oline.
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I like Star. I just don’t like taking fat NT/DT’s within the top 3 picks.
Take a pass rusher or a stud LB with that top 3-4 pick.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Best Moment of the Night
Mike Mayock “attempting” to talk crap about AL DAVIS on the broadcast…..claiming the Fans should be patient and that Reggie has no talent on the team….that the Raiders have screwed up their drafts the last 10 years…..
Very next play, DHB goes 56 yards for a TD!
Now Mike Mayock and Mike Huff have something in common other than their first names….
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
If Mark was embarrassed tonight, what did he expect after getting blown out 4 straight weeks and losing to Cleveland at home in a game that wasn’t as close as the score; and…playing Peyton Manning on a 6 game win streak?
Seriously.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
There is also more to the center position than just hiking the ball.They call the position that name because everything centers around him. We should be seeing more plays that he gets credit for if he is doing his job well.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Fugged up hair contest. Who wins? Mark D or Trump?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Mike Mayock lied when he said that Manning “never takes a sack”. I saw him lay down for at least three sacks today.
Didn’t you guys?
If he does that in a playoff game, he will be given a pass. F that!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
If you go with a drafting a D Linemen within the first 3-4 picks in a draft, than you draft a pass rushing DE or OLB.
Not a one dimensional fat two gap NT/DT.
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You must havent seen Star play, he will be picked ahead of Teo, like I said Teo will be exposed by Bama in the title game with Womack,Jones, and Fluker coming at him. Ask Jarvis Jones about that Bama oline.
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Teo is not worthy of a top 5 pick…not hatin’ but he ain’t gonna make a difference.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
lol matt mayock.. I like the guy.. Al tried to get him to be our GM.. but he ripped the Mike Mitchell pick.. till mitchell met up with him last year b4 the sandiego game.
Mitchell talked trash to him in a friendly way.. but Mayock was right.
DHB?? well he does have that YAC!!!!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Best Moment of the Night
Mike Mayock “attempting” to talk crap about AL DAVIS on the broadcast…..claiming the Fans should be patient and that Reggie has no talent on the team….that the Raiders have screwed up their drafts the last 10 years…..
Very next play, DHB goes 56 yards for a TD!
Now Mike Mayock and Mike Huff have something in common other than their first names….
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Yeah I liked that..even Nessler was giving him crap.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Best Moment of the Night
Mike Mayock “attempting” to talk crap about AL DAVIS on the broadcast…..claiming the Fans should be patient and that Reggie has no talent on the team….that the Raiders have screwed up their drafts the last 10 years…..
Very next play, DHB goes 56 yards for a TD!
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Problem is, that’s all true. DHB is one to keep around though. He’s got heart, but he still disappears a lot.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
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December 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
“Why is Pryor not getting any snaps??”
Because he is what you call “3rd String” and you have to beat out the “2nd String” guy first you see, then you beat out the “1st String” guy….THEN you can play…..got -LMAO
December 6th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Fugged up hair contest. Who wins? Mark D or Trump?
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How about Mark Davis put a shock through all the staff this week with some verbal abuse, state that the staff is “on the cliff” to CSNBAYAREA, shave his head bald, and come out on the sideline next week with war paint on his face.
How would that be?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
ok guess ill keep the KLOWN KOACH KADRE too..
December 6th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Best Moment of the Night
Mike Mayock “attempting” to talk crap about AL DAVIS on the broadcast…..claiming the Fans should be patient and that Reggie has no talent on the team….that the Raiders have screwed up their drafts the last 10 years…..
Very next play, DHB goes 56 yards for a TD!
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Problem is, that’s all true. DHB is one to keep around though. He’s got heart, but he still disappears a lot.
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No it is not all true…which was my point!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I bet $1,000 american dollars DHB is not coming back next season who is in?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Best Moment of the Night
Mike Mayock “attempting” to talk crap about AL DAVIS on the broadcast…..claiming the Fans should be patient and that Reggie has no talent on the team….that the Raiders have screwed up their drafts the last 10 years…..
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F Mike Mayock. I have compared my own personal decisions from afar to Mayock’s. I found that I am within 1-2 standard deviations from “the right choice” after seeing a players true value.
My world does not revolve around Mayock. I don’t need his advice to be a Raider fan.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
It’s easy for some Mayock to talk crap now about a man who is in the grave…..
Doesn’t make it true….just makes it his perspective…
December 6th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
ron69 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I bet $1,000 american dollars DHB is not coming back next season who is in?
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If I was fool enough to throw $100 around like garbage, I would bet you. Alas, I am not.
DHB is a keeper, as a #3 WR.
December 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
$1000
Do you know what I could do with a $1000 that is more meaningful than a horn bet?
December 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Anyhow, I love seeing people eat their WORDS immediately after they speak them….especially when they are TALKING about the man who arguably did more for this league and sport than any other person who has EVER LIVED!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Doesn’t make it true or false….but the result is there for the whole word to see!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
WORLD….
word!
December 6th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Time to go….
Later guys….
Need I remind you all this 6 game skid started with a DAY OFF given to the team by our Head Coach following a Chiefs victory on the road….
December 6th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Von Miller has 16 sacks.
Raiders defense has 15.
December 6th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Did M. myjock elaborate on why he was so pro Dennis Allen or was is more of a gut type feeling like Reggie had. Reggie has much more credit for the pundits to stand on than DA. I did not hear much past history of Allen’s accomplishments. Did I miss something?
December 6th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Anyhow, I love seeing people eat their WORDS immediately after they speak them….especially when they are TALKING about the man who arguably did more for this league and sport than any other person who has EVER LIVED!
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That’s all true. But you have to ask yourself how much did he do to make the Raiders a great team from 2003-2011?
We all love the man, but he was slippin’. Vito Corleone style.
December 6th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
2romes Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Did M. myjock elaborate on why he was so pro Dennis Allen or was is more of a gut type feeling like Reggie had. Reggie has much more credit for the pundits to stand on than DA. I did not hear much past history of Allen’s accomplishments. Did I miss something?
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No you did not. Ever heard of Matt Patricia? DA’s resume isn’t even as good as his. And noone has offered him a job.
December 6th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
he was slippin’. Vito Corleone style.
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10 yr’s ago could I have gotten to him?
-Solozzo
December 6th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Watched the first half. Not to bad. Went to help son with homework at half time. Came back in the 3rd quarter.
WHAT the hell happened to the game?
Why can’t we just skip the 3rd quarter?
December 7th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Morning all,
Can one of you semis help me out?
What happened on the Carson Fumble?
Looked like his arm was going forward when the ball came out?
And aren’t all turnovers reviewed?
Perhaps I saw it wrong cause of the beer an trees!
Somebody please explain what happened on that play
December 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seems Carson was one of the few players who did his job. Team was a major letdown.
Palmer IS NOT the QB answer for this team! It’s freakin embarassing to have two QB Heisman winners on your roster and not one of them is at a level to carry a franchise! The Donko game was winnable, but with our serious lack of talent and coaching we were just a practice squad for Denver as they prepare for the playoffs! DMC needs to go elsewhere, he has quickly become a liablility with his big contract and inablility to finish a season. Notice when he runs he goes down after one hit, no desire for more yardage! Huff, Branch, Kelly also need to say adios! Today, we are an awful looking NFL team, and will be bent over by Carolina and the Bolts!