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Halftime: Broncos 13, Raiders 7

Carson Palmer completed 9 of 11 passes for 80 yards, including a beautifully conceived 6-yard left screen for the touchdown, as the Raiders got within 13-7 with 1:59 left in the half.

The drive took 6:33 off the clock and was the longest of the season for the Raiders.

The Raiders took advantage of a spectacular diving interception by Phillip Adams in the end zone when the Broncos appeared poised to go up 20-0.

Denver drove to the Oakland 49 before a Mike Mitchell sack helped force a Broncos punt with 20 seconds left in the half.

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  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Solid 3rd quarter perforance, once again.

    =====

    Is it 10-0 so far?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    lets hear the chucky chants!

  • RaidO

    0ak R8rs Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    I hate Palmer. I’m done w him. He has heart. He has class. But he’s schlep rock. Nothing has ever gone right for him. Nothing ever will. Whether its poor decisions or bad luck or coaching, he has never won an never will. Makes critical mistakes at critical times. Can’t win like that. Yea. Goodson started it. But Palmer finished it. As usual.
    ——————————

    TRUE, Palmer had like 2 good seasons with the Bengals. Some Raider fans have OVERRATED him.

  • J Hill

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    WTF are we doing??????????

  • R8RNAZ

    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Palmer is way better than you fools give him credit for. He makes a lot of good throws that you guys just take for granted.

    Not just the two bombs to Streater in the last two games, but a bunch of 20 yard ins and outs.

    Everyone assumes Palmer is just a garbage time stats compiler. But it’s not true. Palmer has 148 passing in the first half tonight. He’s averaging 138 in the first halves of games this season and 156 in the second half. Really not a huge disparity.
    ————

    He also makes the game deciding int a lot
    Atl,Tampa, Cle,
    That’s where my frustration comes in. He makes a terrible choice at worst time.

    ——-

    Way to conveniently ignore how many of those INTs were a result of the WR’s running the wrong routes.

    DLess is the laziest route runner Ive seen in a while. Im starting to hate the kid.

    ————
    He maybe, but Palmer should know that and take that into consideration when throwing the timing route. Sucks but true. Like I said earlier I would be happy to be wrong about Carson.
    He reminds me of the year we had Jeff George. Look at his stats. You would have thought we were 12-4 not 4-12. The following year George is hurt and we run through scabs and go 8-8 in grudens first year. George gone the next year for Gannon and we are still trying to get back to those days. We need a leader under center and Palmers not it.

    ———

    Agreed, Palmer isnt the leader we need.

    But dont hold it against him that he’s not “taking DLess’ lazyness into consideration”.

    —————
    Manning would

    ——–

    How?

    How the fvck is a QB supposed to compensate for a lazy WR.

    What Manning would do is ring his neck on the sideline and get the guy benched if he didnt shape up. Thats where your leadership point is valid.

    But as for what Palmer is supposed to do on that out route, if DLess runs a crisp route, he is able to make that catch.
    ———-
    Manning gets that guy off the field. But he finds other guys to throw it to. No one is perfect but Palmer has a history of nits at the wrong time. Can’t all be on the WRs.
    That being said he just ended the game with a fumble. Something new. This f……king sucks. Another week of being ridiculed.

    ——–

    I dont think we are that far apart in our opinions.

    Im just letting you know that those big INTs you were speaking of were largely the fault of the WRs.
    F them
    I’ll let him blame the WRs the first couple times. But once it’s become the pattern it has, then it becomes his fault for indeed not doing what you suggest, kick the bums off the field.
    —————–
    I hear ya.
    I wonder If our qb and WRs get together and work on where the qb expects them to be with each look a d might throw at them. I’d bet he ones in Denver, NE, NO, and Atl do.

  • mcfadden20.

    Nothing to do with Coaches, players ain’t making plays, Reece and Barnes combined to f8k up our drive on the fumble , last one was either on Palmer or DHB,

  • Raider Riff

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Well the frst half went ok. Tarver picked it up with some nice calls on D, Carson is gonna half to play pick free in the second half that first int was a killer as we could be in the lead. They started gashing us in the run game so DA and Tarver must make adj, you know Manning will.

    ——

    Picked it up? Tarver had it right from the start. If Branch was a player and Wheeler doesnt get called for holding (within 5 yds of the line of scrimmage) then we start the game off with a pick 6.

    Tarver came out with a good plan. We didnt execute. We then got knocked back on our heels. And then we settled down and had a solid 2nd quarter.

    Same could be said for Knapp but Im not even going to bother wasting my time explaining.
    ————

    Thank you I’ve had enough of your high horse BS to last a lifetime.

    ———

    Get smarter and I wont be such an issue for you.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    “oh no we svck again!”…the coaches come thru…

    =================

    Yup! You just had to give time for the coaches to fu** up the 2nd half.

  • Los Raida Locos

    Oh my.

  • ChrisinNC

    I’m chatting with a girl friend of mine, and she tells me I need a jersey to sport while watching my time. I’m like, yeah, good idea. Then she asks me what’s the name of my favorite player on the team? My answer?

    Marcel Reece.

    A fullback.

    I get asked what name I want on the back of a jersey, and the best I can come up with is a mother frickin fullback.

  • J Hill

    DHB not buying Palmer’s BS coming off the field.

  • Priesttj12

    This coach wont play TP he’s too damn stupid……….they will have to force him to do it.

  • SR Raider

    This season is the worst coaching in raider history outside of Art Shell’s second stint. Reggie is a fool if he keeps DA

  • eastoaklandraider

    let the blowout commence.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Nothing to do with Coaches, players ain’t making plays, Reece and Barnes combined to f8k up our drive on the fumble , last one was either on Palmer or DHB,

    ==========

    Exactly, another 3rd quarter where we get beaten down…starting off games getting our asses kicked…This staff is amazing!

  • Derek

    Time to let the kid (TP) play.

  • mcfadden20.

    Gio freaking getting abused

  • Raider Riff

    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Palmer is way better than you fools give him credit for. He makes a lot of good throws that you guys just take for granted.

    Not just the two bombs to Streater in the last two games, but a bunch of 20 yard ins and outs.

    Everyone assumes Palmer is just a garbage time stats compiler. But it’s not true. Palmer has 148 passing in the first half tonight. He’s averaging 138 in the first halves of games this season and 156 in the second half. Really not a huge disparity.
    ————

    He also makes the game deciding int a lot
    Atl,Tampa, Cle,
    That’s where my frustration comes in. He makes a terrible choice at worst time.

    ——-

    Way to conveniently ignore how many of those INTs were a result of the WR’s running the wrong routes.

    DLess is the laziest route runner Ive seen in a while. Im starting to hate the kid.

    ————
    He maybe, but Palmer should know that and take that into consideration when throwing the timing route. Sucks but true. Like I said earlier I would be happy to be wrong about Carson.
    He reminds me of the year we had Jeff George. Look at his stats. You would have thought we were 12-4 not 4-12. The following year George is hurt and we run through scabs and go 8-8 in grudens first year. George gone the next year for Gannon and we are still trying to get back to those days. We need a leader under center and Palmers not it.

    ———

    Agreed, Palmer isnt the leader we need.

    But dont hold it against him that he’s not “taking DLess’ lazyness into consideration”.

    —————
    Manning would

    ——–

    How?

    How the fvck is a QB supposed to compensate for a lazy WR.

    What Manning would do is ring his neck on the sideline and get the guy benched if he didnt shape up. Thats where your leadership point is valid.

    But as for what Palmer is supposed to do on that out route, if DLess runs a crisp route, he is able to make that catch.
    ———-
    Manning gets that guy off the field. But he finds other guys to throw it to. No one is perfect but Palmer has a history of nits at the wrong time. Can’t all be on the WRs.
    That being said he just ended the game with a fumble. Something new. This f……king sucks. Another week of being ridiculed.

    ——–

    I dont think we are that far apart in our opinions.

    Im just letting you know that those big INTs you were speaking of were largely the fault of the WRs.
    F them
    I’ll let him blame the WRs the first couple times. But once it’s become the pattern it has, then it becomes his fault for indeed not doing what you suggest, kick the bums off the field.
    —————–
    I hear ya.
    I wonder If our qb and WRs get together and work on where the qb expects them to be with each look a d might throw at them. I’d bet he ones in Denver, NE, NO, and Atl do.

    ———

    Yes, they do practice that exact stuff.

    We just get in a game and have brain farts. It’s maddening for the coaches and QB.

    Its not like this stuff isnt being practiced. The WRs among others, just get in a game and lose their minds.

  • RaidO

    Knapp and the offensive scheme is CRAP. It is the coaching.

  • edward teach

    257.Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Well the frst half went ok. Tarver picked it up with some nice calls on D, Carson is gonna half to play pick free in the second half that first int was a killer as we could be in the lead. They started gashing us in the run game so DA and Tarver must make adj, you know Manning will.

    ——

    Picked it up? Tarver had it right from the start. If Branch was a player and Wheeler doesnt get called for holding (within 5 yds of the line of scrimmage) then we start the game off with a pick 6.

    Tarver came out with a good plan. We didnt execute. We then got knocked back on our heels. And then we settled down and had a solid 2nd quarter.

    Same could be said for Knapp but Im not even going to bother wasting my time explaining.
    ————

    Thank you I’ve had enough of your high horse BS to last a lifetime.

    ———

    Get smarter and I wont be such an issue for you.

    ********************************************************

    lol

  • C2E

    so much for the raider tat

  • Al_is_theraiders

    DA needs to go…i bet he hugs fox after the game.

  • Raidervill

    #210 is right on. Constant mistakes by every single person on the team. Palmer pick, fumble. DMac dropped pass, missed cuts. Myers bad block. Reece/Barnes false starts. Barnes for strip/sack. Streater drops. DHB bobbles. How can an offense consistently put points on the board with everyone making mistakes? When every player seems to underachieve it’s bad coaching.

    The D officially lacks talent and that is why I tend to blame the offensive coaches more. This coaching staff destroyed the best thing on the Raiders, the running game. DMac just isn’t a cut back runner at the LOS.

  • 504 Raider

    From now on, when our KR catches the ball in the end zone, our other guy back there with him should tackle him immediately.

  • mcfadden20.

    J Hill Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    That’s a KILLER turnover Palmer.

    Get rid of the ball, take the sack, but don’t effin fumble!
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    goodson “i will show them…”
    r8eray Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
    raiders WILL win tonight..

    print that!!

    =============

    Bustin yo balls!
    Derek Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Palmer, DA and Knapp=lost season and total embarrassment
    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    Game over….You better be gone Tits

    ————————————-

    I’m OK with that if Palmer is gone with him.
    ray_d Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Pryor!
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Palmer is way better than you fools give him credit for. He makes a lot of good throws that you guys just take for granted.

    Not just the two bombs to Streater in the last two games, but a bunch of 20 yard ins and outs.

    Everyone assumes Palmer is just a garbage time stats compiler. But it’s not true. Palmer has 148 passing in the first half tonight. He’s averaging 138 in the first halves of games this season and 156 in the second half. Really not a huge disparity.
    ————

    He also makes the game deciding int a lot
    Atl,Tampa, Cle,
    That’s where my frustration comes in. He makes a terrible choice at worst time.

    ——-

    Way to conveniently ignore how many of those INTs were a result of the WR’s running the wrong routes.

    DLess is the laziest route runner Ive seen in a while. Im starting to hate the kid.

    ————
    He maybe, but Palmer should know that and take that into consideration when throwing the timing route. Sucks but true. Like I said earlier I would be happy to be wrong about Carson.
    He reminds me of the year we had Jeff George. Look at his stats. You would have thought we were 12-4 not 4-12. The following year George is hurt and we run through scabs and go 8-8 in grudens first year. George gone the next year for Gannon and we are still trying to get back to those days. We need a leader under center and Palmers not it.

    ———

    Agreed, Palmer isnt the leader we need.

    But dont hold it against him that he’s not “taking DLess’ lazyness into consideration”.

    —————
    Manning would

    ——–

    How?

    How the fvck is a QB supposed to compensate for a lazy WR.

    What Manning would do is ring his neck on the sideline and get the guy benched if he didnt shape up. Thats where your leadership point is valid.

    But as for what Palmer is supposed to do on that out route, if DLess runs a crisp route, he is able to make that catch.
    ———-
    Manning gets that guy off the field. But he finds other guys to throw it to. No one is perfect but Palmer has a history of nits at the wrong time. Can’t all be on the WRs.
    That being said he just ended the game with a fumble. Something new. This f……king sucks. Another week of being ridiculed.

    ——–

    I dont think we are that far apart in our opinions.

    Im just letting you know that those big INTs you were speaking of were largely the fault of the WRs.

    I’ll let him blame the WRs the first couple times. But once it’s become the pattern it has, then it becomes his fault for indeed not doing what you suggest, kick the bums off the field.
    The Oracle Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Barnes, the next LIABILITY up for cut…
    KoolKell Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Palmer is a heartbreaker isn’t he?
    Chris in NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Palmer can still be a good QB. The lack of mobility is a concern, but the Mannings, Brady and Kurt Warner have been able to succeed in recent years.

    Need to rebuild the o-line. Keep Veldheer and Wiz and find three new starters. Big Reg should’ve kept Satele.
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Morilla Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    Ray_d Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    This is happening because of Goodson stupid decision to run out, false start by Reece and Barnes inability to block
    ————-

    A wise man.

    ——-

    Exactly. None of those mistakes were the fault of the coaches.
    Priesttj12 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Lets see if DA will doghouse Goodson?

    TJ can’t get a sniff this staff is a joke..period
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    except that the coach is playing them?
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    The Oracle Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
    Barnes, the next LIABILITY up for cut…

    ========

    I will celebrate the day.
    Derek Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    another pathetic 3rd quarter
    KoolKell Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Booing at those playcalls
    morilla Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    morilla Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    I have a hard time believing that the people who blame coaches have never played athletics at any level. It’s the easy way out when you don’t know.

    ——————————-

    Are you saying that guys who blame coaches have or haven’t played? Your statement taken literally would suggest that guys who played would say that, but I’m guessing maybe you meant to say the opposite.
    ———–
    Never = ever

    It was cryptic.

    I have a feeling people blaming coaches have never played any athletics at any level. Our players are jokes. 2nd and 3stringers on any other team. We have a hand full of starters.
    The Oracle Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Palmer is a heartbreaker isn’t he?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    50% Palmer..50% the rest of the team….
    RaidO Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Yup start booing Raider nation. Get CP out of there.
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Well the frst half went ok. Tarver picked it up with some nice calls on D, Carson is gonna half to play pick free in the second half that first int was a killer as we could be in the lead. They started gashing us in the run game so DA and Tarver must make adj, you know Manning will.

    ——

    Picked it up? Tarver had it right from the start. If Branch was a player and Wheeler doesnt get called for holding (within 5 yds of the line of scrimmage) then we start the game off with a pick 6.

    Tarver came out with a good plan. We didnt execute. We then got knocked back on our heels. And then we settled down and had a solid 2nd quarter.

    Same could be said for Knapp but Im not even going to bother wasting my time explaining.
    ————

    Thank you I’ve had enough of your high horse BS to last a lifetime.
    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
    Palmer is a heartbreaker isn’t he?

    ———————————–

    Not really, because I never expected much out of him.
    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    This is when players put up their big boy pants on, lets see what these players can do
    0ak r8rs Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    I hate Palmer. I’m done w him. He has heart. He has class. But he’s schlep rock. Nothing has ever gone right for him. Nothing ever will. Whether its poor decisions or bad luck or coaching, he has never won an never will. Makes critical mistakes at critical times. Can’t win like that. Yea. Goodson started it. But Palmer finished it. As usual.
    Chris in NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Solid 3rd quarter perforance, once again.
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    TP time.
    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    ChrisinNC Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    I give up man.

    This team needs some major house cleaning.

    Starting with the coach

    =======

    2nd that!
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    “oh no we svck again!”…the coaches come thru…
    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    I’d be surprised if any coach is retained…there’s no fck’n way.
    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Solid 3rd quarter perforance, once again.

    =====

    Is it 10-0 so far?
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    lets hear the chucky chants!
    RaidO Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    0ak R8rs Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    I hate Palmer. I’m done w him. He has heart. He has class. But he’s schlep rock. Nothing has ever gone right for him. Nothing ever will. Whether its poor decisions or bad luck or coaching, he has never won an never will. Makes critical mistakes at critical times. Can’t win like that. Yea. Goodson started it. But Palmer finished it. As usual.
    ——————————

    TRUE, Palmer had like 2 good seasons with the Bengals. Some Raider fans have OVERRATED him.
    J Hill Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    WTF are we doing??????????
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Palmer is way better than you fools give him credit for. He makes a lot of good throws that you guys just take for granted.

    Not just the two bombs to Streater in the last two games, but a bunch of 20 yard ins and outs.

    Everyone assumes Palmer is just a garbage time stats compiler. But it’s not true. Palmer has 148 passing in the first half tonight. He’s averaging 138 in the first halves of games this season and 156 in the second half. Really not a huge disparity.
    ————

    He also makes the game deciding int a lot
    Atl,Tampa, Cle,
    That’s where my frustration comes in. He makes a terrible choice at worst time.

    ——-

    Way to conveniently ignore how many of those INTs were a result of the WR’s running the wrong routes.

    DLess is the laziest route runner Ive seen in a while. Im starting to hate the kid.

    ————
    He maybe, but Palmer should know that and take that into consideration when throwing the timing route. Sucks but true. Like I said earlier I would be happy to be wrong about Carson.
    He reminds me of the year we had Jeff George. Look at his stats. You would have thought we were 12-4 not 4-12. The following year George is hurt and we run through scabs and go 8-8 in grudens first year. George gone the next year for Gannon and we are still trying to get back to those days. We need a leader under center and Palmers not it.

    ———

    Agreed, Palmer isnt the leader we need.

    But dont hold it against him that he’s not “taking DLess’ lazyness into consideration”.

    —————
    Manning would

    ——–

    How?

    How the fvck is a QB supposed to compensate for a lazy WR.

    What Manning would do is ring his neck on the sideline and get the guy benched if he didnt shape up. Thats where your leadership point is valid.

    But as for what Palmer is supposed to do on that out route, if DLess runs a crisp route, he is able to make that catch.
    ———-
    Manning gets that guy off the field. But he finds other guys to throw it to. No one is perfect but Palmer has a history of nits at the wrong time. Can’t all be on the WRs.
    That being said he just ended the game with a fumble. Something new. This f……king sucks. Another week of being ridiculed.

    ——–

    I dont think we are that far apart in our opinions.

    Im just letting you know that those big INTs you were speaking of were largely the fault of the WRs.
    F them
    I’ll let him blame the WRs the first couple times. But once it’s become the pattern it has, then it becomes his fault for indeed not doing what you suggest, kick the bums off the field.
    —————–
    I hear ya.
    I wonder If our qb and WRs get together and work on where the qb expects them to be with each look a d might throw at them. I’d bet he ones in Denver, NE, NO, and Atl do.
    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Nothing to do with Coaches, players ain’t making plays, Reece and Barnes combined to f8k up our drive on the fumble , last one was either on Palmer or DHB,
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Well the frst half went ok. Tarver picked it up with some nice calls on D, Carson is gonna half to play pick free in the second half that first int was a killer as we could be in the lead. They started gashing us in the run game so DA and Tarver must make adj, you know Manning will.

    ——

    Picked it up? Tarver had it right from the start. If Branch was a player and Wheeler doesnt get called for holding (within 5 yds of the line of scrimmage) then we start the game off with a pick 6.

    Tarver came out with a good plan. We didnt execute. We then got knocked back on our heels. And then we settled down and had a solid 2nd quarter.

    Same could be said for Knapp but Im not even going to bother wasting my time explaining.
    ————

    Thank you I’ve had enough of your high horse BS to last a lifetime.

    ———

    Get smarter and I wont be such an issue for you.
    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    “oh no we svck again!”…the coaches come thru…

    =================

    Yup! You just had to give time for the coaches to fu** up the 2nd half.
    Los Raida Locos Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Oh my.
    ChrisinNC Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    I’m chatting with a girl friend of mine, and she tells me I need a jersey to sport while watching my time. I’m like, yeah, good idea. Then she asks me what’s the name of my favorite player on the team? My answer?

    Marcel Reece.

    A fullback.

    I get asked what name I want on the back of a jersey, and the best I can come up with is a mother frickin fullback.
    J Hill Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    DHB not buying Palmer’s BS coming off the field.
    Priesttj12 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    This coach wont play TP he’s too damn stupid……….they will have to force him to do it.
    SR Raider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    This season is the worst coaching in raider history outside of Art Shell’s second stint. Reggie is a fool if he keeps DA
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    let the blowout commence.
    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Nothing to do with Coaches, players ain’t making plays, Reece and Barnes combined to f8k up our drive on the fumble , last one was either on Palmer or DHB,

    ==========

    Exactly, another 3rd quarter where we get beaten down…starting off games getting our asses kicked…This staff is amazing!
    Derek Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Time to let the kid (TP) play.
    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Gio freaking getting abused
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    R8RNAZ Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Palmer is way better than you fools give him credit for. He makes a lot of good throws that you guys just take for granted.

    Not just the two bombs to Streater in the last two games, but a bunch of 20 yard ins and outs.

    Everyone assumes Palmer is just a garbage time stats compiler. But it’s not true. Palmer has 148 passing in the first half tonight. He’s averaging 138 in the first halves of games this season and 156 in the second half. Really not a huge disparity.
    ————

    He also makes the game deciding int a lot
    Atl,Tampa, Cle,
    That’s where my frustration comes in. He makes a terrible choice at worst time.

    ——-

    Way to conveniently ignore how many of those INTs were a result of the WR’s running the wrong routes.

    DLess is the laziest route runner Ive seen in a while. Im starting to hate the kid.

    ————
    He maybe, but Palmer should know that and take that into consideration when throwing the timing route. Sucks but true. Like I said earlier I would be happy to be wrong about Carson.
    He reminds me of the year we had Jeff George. Look at his stats. You would have thought we were 12-4 not 4-12. The following year George is hurt and we run through scabs and go 8-8 in grudens first year. George gone the next year for Gannon and we are still trying to get back to those days. We need a leader under center and Palmers not it.

    ———

    Agreed, Palmer isnt the leader we need.

    But dont hold it against him that he’s not “taking DLess’ lazyness into consideration”.

    —————
    Manning would

    ——–

    How?

    How the fvck is a QB supposed to compensate for a lazy WR.

    What Manning would do is ring his neck on the sideline and get the guy benched if he didnt shape up. Thats where your leadership point is valid.

    But as for what Palmer is supposed to do on that out route, if DLess runs a crisp route, he is able to make that catch.
    ———-
    Manning gets that guy off the field. But he finds other guys to throw it to. No one is perfect but Palmer has a history of nits at the wrong time. Can’t all be on the WRs.
    That being said he just ended the game with a fumble. Something new. This f……king sucks. Another week of being ridiculed.

    ——–

    I dont think we are that far apart in our opinions.

    Im just letting you know that those big INTs you were speaking of were largely the fault of the WRs.
    F them
    I’ll let him blame the WRs the first couple times. But once it’s become the pattern it has, then it becomes his fault for indeed not doing what you suggest, kick the bums off the field.
    —————–
    I hear ya.
    I wonder If our qb and WRs get together and work on where the qb expects them to be with each look a d might throw at them. I’d bet he ones in Denver, NE, NO, and Atl do.

    ———

    Yes, they do practice that exact stuff.

    We just get in a game and have brain farts. It’s maddening for the coaches and QB.

    Its not like this stuff isnt being practiced. The WRs among others, just get in a game and lose their minds.
    RaidO Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Knapp and the offensive scheme is CRAP. It is the coaching.
    edward teach Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    257.Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Well the frst half went ok. Tarver picked it up with some nice calls on D, Carson is gonna half to play pick free in the second half that first int was a killer as we could be in the lead. They started gashing us in the run game so DA and Tarver must make adj, you know Manning will.

    ——

    Picked it up? Tarver had it right from the start. If Branch was a player and Wheeler doesnt get called for holding (within 5 yds of the line of scrimmage) then we start the game off with a pick 6.

    Tarver came out with a good plan. We didnt execute. We then got knocked back on our heels. And then we settled down and had a solid 2nd quarter.

    Same could be said for Knapp but Im not even going to bother wasting my time explaining.
    ————

    Thank you I’ve had enough of your high horse BS to last a lifetime.

    ———

    Get smarter and I wont be such an issue for you.

    ********************************************************

    lol

    —-

    Gio another AL D guy = Excuses al the troll?

  • HueKnewButHisEgoGrew

    I get asked what name I want on the back of a jersey, and the best I can come up with is a mother frickin fullback.
    ***************************
    Get a throwback.

  • Derek

    Lets see if TP can play. Even Manning said the only way you really learn is by beiong on the field playing. It’s a proven fact Palmer is not going to take any team to the promise land.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Well the frst half went ok. Tarver picked it up with some nice calls on D, Carson is gonna half to play pick free in the second half that first int was a killer as we could be in the lead. They started gashing us in the run game so DA and Tarver must make adj, you know Manning will.

    ——

    Picked it up? Tarver had it right from the start. If Branch was a player and Wheeler doesnt get called for holding (within 5 yds of the line of scrimmage) then we start the game off with a pick 6.

    Tarver came out with a good plan. We didnt execute. We then got knocked back on our heels. And then we settled down and had a solid 2nd quarter.

    Same could be said for Knapp but Im not even going to bother wasting my time explaining.
    ————

    Thank you I’ve had enough of your high horse BS to last a lifetime.

    ———

    Get smarter and I wont be such an issue for you.
    ————-

    Get real and stop being a knapp DA asslicker and you wont look so dumb.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Nothing to do with coaching? Lol

  • ray_d

    DA is trying to save his job, he thinks Palmer will some how lead the back, but he won’t not with knapp, not with this defense. Play Pryor game is over

  • Chris in NY

    morilla Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    Chris In NY Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    morilla Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    I have a hard time believing that the people who blame coaches have never played athletics at any level. It’s the easy way out when you don’t know.

    ——————————-

    Are you saying that guys who blame coaches have or haven’t played? Your statement taken literally would suggest that guys who played would say that, but I’m guessing maybe you meant to say the opposite.
    ———–
    Never = ever

    It was cryptic.

    I have a feeling people blaming coaches have never played any athletics at any level. Our players are jokes. 2nd and 3stringers on any other team. We have a hand full of starters.

    ————————

    Gotcha.

    However, not true. Coaching matters. It just does.

    I’ve played just about every sport in my life. I’ve played for GREAT coaches and I’ve played for awful ones. They set the tone. Great coaches always have teams that win or at least overachieve. Lousy coaches have teams like the 2012 Raiders.

    There’s a reason Jim Harbaugh has won at every stop he’s been at (San Diego, Stanford, 49ers). There’s a reason Arkansas was a top 10 program under Petrino and then became awful immediately after he was fired.

    I can go on and on and on. But I’ll stop there.

    FYI, Bill Romanowski said on the radio today that a really good coach can get an NFL team 4 extra wins per season. I think it’s fair to say Romo’s played sports before.

  • mcfadden20.

    Knapp s8cks, get a big Mcfadden run , starting 2nd half but freaking just cuz it worked, he called like 4 straight run plays, like when, he called a pass play after big Streater catch

  • 0ak r8rs

    ChrisinNC Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    I’m chatting with a girl friend of mine, and she tells me I need a jersey to sport while watching my time. I’m like, yeah, good idea. Then she asks me what’s the name of my favorite player on the team? My answer?

    Marcel Reece.

    A fullback.

    I get asked what name I want on the back of a jersey, and the best I can come up with is a mother frickin fullback.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I get my oldest daughter a raiders jersey every Christmas. Mostly as an apology for making her a raider fan in the first place. This year it’ll be FING janikowski! It’s the only guy worthy, and my be the only guy left next year! Reece would be my second choice. Extra pathetic!!!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    mxcuse back from his bootlicking…

  • Los Raida Locos

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    let the blowout commence.

    ————–

    I’m sure Fox is holding the dogs back a bit. This game seems slow, kinda like Denver is playing down to our pace. Fox knows DA doesn’t have chance. It’s just a professional courtesy on Foxs’ part not to beat DA to a pulp. Feels sorry for DA.

  • Jackie Bibby

    Getting our @SSES kicked in a meaningless game, our starting qb is struggling and yet we still see no pryor. Maaaan please pack Da, greg knapp and the rest of this coaching staff the fk up outta here. Play pryor what do we have to lose? GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.

  • RaiderDebo

    RaidO Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    0ak R8rs Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    I hate Palmer. I’m done w him. He has heart. He has class. But he’s schlep rock. Nothing has ever gone right for him. Nothing ever will. Whether its poor decisions or bad luck or coaching, he has never won an never will. Makes critical mistakes at critical times. Can’t win like that. Yea. Goodson started it. But Palmer finished it. As usual.
    ——————————

    TRUE, Palmer had like 2 good seasons with the Bengals. Some Raider fans have OVERRATED him.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    He had more than two good seasons. But he really sucked his last few there. That’s why I couldn’t believe what we gave up for him. And the “instant upgrade” talk in here was a complete joke.

  • RaidingTexas

    It’s clinical from here out. Raiders had chances, but players dropped passes, threw passes to the wrong team, committed penalties at the worst times, returned kickoffs from 8 yards deep in the end zone, etc.

    It was entertaining for awhile, anyway.

  • RaiderLen

    Priesttj12 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    This proves if you coach this team up they can win games. But this coaching staff lets the players down way too much.

    Stop doghousing players and play the bets players anad win games…………period
    ——————————————
    Sounds like old school Al, Priest.

    Good and Great players make average Coaches look pretty smart.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    its official…everyone knows mxcuse is a licker…

  • ChrisinNC

    504 Raider Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    From now on, when our KR catches the ball in the end zone, our other guy back there with him should tackle him immediately.

    ——————————————————-

    Hardest I’ve laughed in a while. I needed that. Thank you.

  • Chris in NY

    There’s a reason the Patriots were still able to go 11-5 with Matt Cassel as their starter, when the guy hadn’t started at QB since high school.

  • mcfadden20.

    All on Knapp , tired of his play calling , f8kin dumb ass rocks , dumb like al the troll

  • The Oracle

    Like I have always said..Branch is only good against the run. He is a LIABILITY in coverage…basic coverage that is.

    Al’s player base must go…I am sure of that now.

  • ESETERIK78

    I give up man.

    This team needs some major house cleaning.

    Starting with the coaches.

    ————————

    Coaches may be questionable, but they’re not the ones throwing picks on the goal line. They aren’t killing drives with penalties, missing blocks that allow strip-sacks, bringing the ball out when they shouldn’t.

    This new management has not had the chance to clean house yet. And had little chance to add quality players yet.

    There’s, maybe, 15 guys on this team worth keeping.

    To me, coaches can only do so much. The way I see it, these players are just not capable of doing what they need to do. They’re not physical enough. Does Giordano instill any fear in a WR or TE? He’s your starting safety.

    That’s just one example of a player not physically built to be elite. Not big enough, strong enough, or smart enough. We have many more.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    and you defended him half the season mclicker…

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Jackie Bibby Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    Getting our @SSES kicked in a meaningless game, our starting qb is struggling and yet we still see no pryor. Maaaan please pack Da, greg knapp and the rest of this coaching staff the fk up outta here. Play pryor what do we have to lose? GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.

    ===

    I hear ya.

  • mcfadden20.

    When you have IQ the level of Al the troll, your drives stall

  • MiamiRaider78

    I like Adams.

  • R8RNAZ

    The D has not quit. They are still trying. Wish our O could play.