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Previewing tonight’s Raiders vs. Broncos game

By Jon Becker
Thursday, December 6th, 2012 at 3:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Here’s a quick look at what appears to be a mismatch on paper between the reeling Raiders and first-place Broncos:



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  • theghostronin79

    theghostronin79 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Anyone listening to 95.7 the game right now? I would tell u waht they said but I dont want the DA lovers and GRUDEN haters to get mad

    ===================

    Let it roll man…..I’m curious

  • oklahomaRaider18

    Lace up!!

  • RaidingTexas

    Two hours and counting!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    GAME DAY! See you in the stadium. Hopefully most of you Gruden supporters will stay the fook home.

  • RaidingTexas

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    95.7 the game early morning djs dont have the sources Bucher has built up working around the country and at espn.

    ———————————–

    Greg Papa doesn’t need “sources built up working around the country”. He has a direct line to Gruden. About an hour or so ago, he said “IT IS NOT HAPPENING.”

  • The_Judge37

    Let’s put the Boot to the Burro!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Sure Cam and RG3 are good QB’s coming out of college and showing early signs of success but that’s a product of many things including how many colleges play a pro style offense now days, all athletes in all sports are bigger faster stronger etc.

    But to say they are changing the game or “Revolutionizing” the game is just a misuse of the word maybe you should buy a dictionary or something.

    When the 2 leagues merged that “revolutionized” the or in 1906 when the first forward pass was legal or they had to start using helmets because 18 players died of head injuries. Those are things that “Revolutionized the game not a QB that is faster than his predecessor that’s just the simple evolution of sport.
    =========

    umm no

    1. you said newton and rgIII would never make it

    THEY OWN YOU!!!

    2.the offense that they run have never existed in the nfl therefore they are revolutionary

    3. revolutionize : to change fundamentally or comlpletey or radically -miriam webster

    4. stfu

  • Raider Riff

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    HUB ARKUSH responded to that PR email for the raiders. He wasnt on the email list but 95.7 the game producer sent it to him. He responded.

    Arkush has 31 years in the business. Arkush responed and said his sources are impeccable. Gruden/ Raiders have talked about him coming aboard. Said he never knew Allen was dealing with his father. Said by the time he found out the story already had been leaked.

    BUCHER said his sources at espn told him again last night they they have talked.. its been in the pre stages for a few weeks.

    Ric bucher called out the local raider writers for being mad at him. He said dont be mad at him for having his sources and reporting on whats has happened.

    ——————————

    Just telling u what they said. U wont know more till after season tho

    ===========

    Glad to hear it man….

    ————–

    Is there single Raider fan that doesnt want Gruden back?

  • Raider Riff

    Raider Riff Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    Manassamauler Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    manassamauler Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    air mcnair, macnabb, culpepper , micheal bishop all could have been much better if the nfl was ready for them.
    ——–

    All of those guys declined fast when they could no longer escape like they used to. Running Qb’s just don’t last in the NFL. They’re great while they’re still athletic, but that instinct to run ruins them when they get older.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Wrong. The years of experience allow them to settle in nicely as pocket QBs. Just ask Young, Cunningham, Vick and Gannon.

    >> Vick can’t stay on the field, young almost had his brain dislodged and gannon wasn’t a run first QB. maybe cunningham was THE exception IDK

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You obviously didn’t follow Gannon in Minnesota. I did. Remember, New England drafted him and tried to make him a DB. And Vick was awesome in Philly. No QB in the history of the game could have held up behind that line this season. Vick is the most underappreciated QB in the league and it isn’t even close.

    >> and Gannon won in Minnesota?NO Vick was a crap QB until he started THROWING from the pocket you know READING a defense. Vick would be elite IMO if he could stay on the field. and you never know where Vick could end up next year.wink wink.

    ——-

    Gannon was excellent in Minnesota.

    He got benched for a more marketable pocket QB in Sean Salisbury. Minnesota got thumped in the playoffs as a result.

  • The Beeech Dawg

    Here’s a sweet new chant I just jammed on my acoustic guitar -

    GRUDEN IS COOL
    PEEMORE BUST IS A FOOL
    SHOUT OUT TO THE BEEECH LAWG

    All of you Nerds that are going to the game tonight, make sure you start every quarter with that chant. It’ll get your whole section rockin’ Beeech-style

    WHUT WHUT

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    HUB ARKUSH responded to that PR email for the raiders. He wasnt on the email list but 95.7 the game producer sent it to him. He responded.

    Arkush has 31 years in the business. Arkush responed and said his sources are impeccable. Gruden/ Raiders have talked about him coming aboard. Said he never knew Allen was dealing with his father. Said by the time he found out the story already had been leaked.

    BUCHER said his sources at espn told him again last night they they have talked.. its been in the pre stages for a few weeks.

    Ric bucher called out the local raider writers for being mad at him. He said dont be mad at him for having his sources and reporting on whats has happened.

    ——————————

    Just telling u what they said. U wont know more till after season tho

  • The Big Banana

    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    95.7 the game early morning djs dont have the sources Bucher has built up working around the country and at espn.

    ———————————–

    Greg Papa doesn’t need “sources built up working around the country”. He has a direct line to Gruden. About an hour or so ago, he said “IT IS NOT HAPPENING.”

    —-

    Papa is on the payroll and the Raiders were none too pleased this was leaked. You bet your ass he was told to kill it.

  • theghostronin79

    The Big Banana Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    95.7 the game early morning djs dont have the sources Bucher has built up working around the country and at espn.

    ———————————–

    Greg Papa doesn’t need “sources built up working around the country”. He has a direct line to Gruden. About an hour or so ago, he said “IT IS NOT HAPPENING.”

    —-

    Papa is on the payroll and the Raiders were none too pleased this was leaked. You bet your ass he was told to kill it.

    =======

    WORD

  • Raider Riff

    The Big Banana Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    95.7 the game early morning djs dont have the sources Bucher has built up working around the country and at espn.

    ———————————–

    Greg Papa doesn’t need “sources built up working around the country”. He has a direct line to Gruden. About an hour or so ago, he said “IT IS NOT HAPPENING.”

    —-

    Papa is on the payroll and the Raiders were none too pleased this was leaked. You bet your ass he was told to kill it.

    ——-

    This is logical.

    Goddamn, if Gruden comes back, I will literally cry with joy.

    Two of the most painful days ever as a Raider fan… the day Bo went down. And the day Gruden was traded.

    It’s time one of those wrongs is righted.

  • da trinity

    Fire DA,tarver and Knapp. Since were rebuilding, let’s do it on better soil then these three stooges.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Go Raiders!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    95.7 the game early morning djs dont have the sources Bucher has built up working around the country and at espn.

    Bucher said ARKUSH has been around forever and wouldnt ruin his reputation for a meanlingless story. ARKUSH said he stands by the story and he is sorry, but he didnt know Allen was going through that.

    Chris townsend taht pr email reaked of the old regime.

    btw every think PAPA just doing his best from gruden told him to keep it on the Down low in case the deal doesnt workout?? Plus papa works for the Raiders.. he is gonna crush the rumor too.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    please stop trying to associate young flutie elway and tarkenton with

    guys like vick and cunningham.

    Vick and Cunningham are so much more gifted with speed and quickness this comparison is beyond laughable.

    It is no fault of their own they didnt play with much super bowel talent or coaching.

    what is happening is people are trying to divide the qb along racial lines, and they desperately want to find a white qb that can do what newton and rgIII have done.

    Im not sure why this is so important to them but i have an idea.
    ==========================
    Entertaining.
    Here we have the person who has taken over the #1 spot for Racist P-O-S, who has blatantly tossed out comment after comment how black qb’s were held down, how black qb’s are the wave of the future, how black qb’s are so much better than white qb’s (while dropping in a ‘oh, I like Luck’ comment as a dangle) who now, just to stir the racial pot, now states it’s whitey who’s dividing along racial lines?
    who’s now giggling like a little school girl because I’m posting exactly what he wants to see?
    Yep, entertaining.
    Sad, pathetic, pretty much a waste of time, but none the less, entertaining.

    Hey Mistic, tell us again how you think it’s classy to introduce your date to the busboy. lol

  • theghostronin79

    Goddamn, if Gruden comes back, I will literally cry with joy.
    ===========

    I know you ain’t Bullsh*t’n cause I almost did after believing it was gonna happen….for about 10 seconds. But still.

  • Raider Riff

    PLEASE CHUCKY COME BACK!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    sully, go back to holding conversations between your other blog handles.

    Your other imaginary personalities are the only ones who even pretend to care what you think

  • theghostronin79

    Riff, you got a read on Manti Te’o?
    Captain on the D? Might have to take him. BPA?

  • Raider Riff

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Goddamn, if Gruden comes back, I will literally cry with joy.
    ===========

    I know you ain’t Bullsh*t’n cause I almost did after believing it was gonna happen….for about 10 seconds. But still.

    ———-

    I aint lyin’.

    Im tearing up as Im watching old Gruden/Gannon highlights on youtube.

    If Gruden comes back, he’s going to bring Gannon with him you would hope at some capacity. Gannon has said a million times he wants to help.

    Tell me the coliseum wouldnt be a madhouse next year on opening night with Gruden on the sidelines again.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    *** The wave of the future ***

    As we all can witness, the NFL is becoming more and more of a passing based game. The rule changes are more and more favorable to allowing the receivers to run free. The “protection” rules are hamstringing the pass rush, giving QBs more time in the pocket for complex routes to develop.

    These changes signal the opportunity for a new breed of possession WRs. They tend to be smaller, shiftier, not necessarily fast but quick, have consistent hands, and they use their heads as much as their feet to identify and find the soft spots in the zones. They are a different breed than those getting drafted highly.

    We’ve seen some of the early examples of these WR types in offenses that are designed around their abilities. The offenses are getting away from the traditional systems built around physical mismatches and instead focus on intellectual dominance. Guys like Welker, Edelmann, Amendola are showing that in such systems that can routinely rack up double digit catches and be effective chain movers by being mentally ahead of the opposition by a step or two.

    Many teams are not seeing the future yet and sticking with their antiquated systems. The Cowboys cut Danny Coale, their 5th round pick this year, who has all the makings for playing in this futre wave mold. Some said he should be changed to punter in the NFL. Pure sterotyping!

    Scotty McKnight was drafted and then waived by the same team that didn’t see Welker’s real value, the Jets. This despite him leading Colorado in career receptions. Pure ignorance on the parts of these teams that are holding back the wave of the future in WR!

    Other teams, such as the Bengals with Ryan Whalen, are just starting to come around. You’ll see more of Whalen for sure, as he starts to steal attention from AJ Green in coverage.

    The Raiders, unfortunately blind to the future, gave up on their chance to tailor their offense to Nick Miller. They, like the Rams that picked him up afterwards, were too stuck in the current, limited thinking. They tried to channel his athleticism into the role of kick returner instead of recognizing his true strengths.

    As the league continues to stereotype and bucket players based into the past fits, they are missing these opportunites to be part of the *** Wave of the Future ***

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    sully, go back to holding conversations between your other blog handles.

    Your other imaginary personalities are the only ones who even pretend to care what you think

    and that is only because you make them do so

  • poprox13

    So….. Who’s going to be the first to ask Cork about the Gruden rumor in the chat?

  • Raider Riff

    The coliseum was never funner than when Gruden was our coach.

    I enjoyed those games immensely. But I took them for granted. I never ever thought we’d lose our coach so fast.

    Bring him back Mark. Sign him to a 10 year deal.

  • The Big Banana

    Two of the most painful days ever as a Raider fan… the day Bo went down. And the day Gruden was traded.

    —–

    Could not agree more.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Some of the same people making excuses for DA & Knapp all year, are now pining for Gruden.

  • Raider Riff

    Does Gruden have a Twitter?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Zymurge Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    *** The wave of the future ***
    ================

    this guy must have never heard of dickety post, fred belitnikoff, lance allworth, don maynard, chris collinsworth , brian brenner, steve largent and so on

  • Raider Riff

    KoolKell Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Some of the same people making excuses for DA & Knapp all year, are now pining for Gruden.

    ————-

    Call it irrational nostalgia. Yes, Im guilty.

  • theghostronin79

    If Gruden comes back, he’s going to bring Gannon with him you would hope at some capacity. Gannon has said a million times he wants to help.

    Tell me the coliseum wouldnt be a madhouse next year on opening night with Gruden on the sidelines again.

    =========

    OMG…..You’d hear the THUNDER again. Not that 80% “Sold Out” bull crap either……I’m talkin standing room only, STOMPING, SCREAMING, SAVAGENESS…… Waking the dead.

    And Rich Gannon? Now you’re talkin man. Hell, maybe even coach Wiz would return, Snag Romo to coach linebackers for us….Ok now I’m delusional.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    well here is to hoping carson can at least be somewhat watchable tonight.

    If palmer starts tossing picks as he is prone to do when the lights are brightest this game will be over by half time.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    sully, go back to holding conversations between your other blog handles.

    Your other imaginary personalities are the only ones who even pretend to care what you think
    ==========================
    Nice try, coward, but not going to work.
    Detailed you being a racist bitter little black man.
    by your words, you’re a failure, but it’s whitey’s fault.
    by your words, whitey has held you down.
    by your words, white supremacists run this board, and are holding this board down.
    by your words, white supremacists run the raiders, and are holding TP down.

    Just curious how it is, in 2012, you can blame anyone for you being a failure besides the guy in your mirror?

    Seriously, I think you’re funny. That’s a compliment, in case you were wondering.
    Funny like smiling listening to your drawllll…slurring of words funny.
    Hope you also find the humor.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    free tp6

    peace

  • The Big Banana

    The Big Banana Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    Two of the most painful days ever as a Raider fan… the day Bo went down. And the day Gruden was traded.

    —–

    Could not agree more.

    ——

    If I could add one more it would be the day Big Al went down. Say what you want, and he certainly wasn’t perfect, but I felt like a big piece of the Raiders died that day, and by extension, a small piece of me.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    free tp6

    peace

    ======

    As in waive him? :-p

  • The_Judge37

    Forget Gruden, Let’s get John Madden back. Or at least Tom Flores.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Well whatever happens you can bet the CHARGERS are gonna make a play for CHUCKY soon.

    AJ smith/ NORV TURNER are gonna be out at end of the season.

    Maybe thats why mark is trying to get a jump start on things. Knows this can be his last chance

  • theghostronin79

    If I could add one more it would be the day Big Al went down. Say what you want, and he certainly wasn’t perfect, but I felt like a big piece of the Raiders died that day, and by extension, a small piece of me.

    =========

    I feel ya

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Nice try, coward, but not going to work.
    Detailed you being a racist bitter little black man.
    by your words, you’re a failure, but it’s whitey’s fault.
    by your words, whitey has held you down.
    by your words, white supremacists run this board, and are holding this board down.
    by your words, white supremacists run the raiders, and are
    ————————
    I don’t think this is Sully, this is the little vermin impersonator.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    sully / real gradkowski raider/ dr. robert or who ever you think you are at this moment

    I have never said anything about so called ‘whitey”

    you are still mad about you gradkowki being owned by jc

    lol cross posting troll

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    If I could add one more it would be the day Big Al went down. Say what you want, and he certainly wasn’t perfect, but I felt like a big piece of the Raiders died that day, and by extension, a small piece of me.

    =========

    I feel ya

    ——————————-

    No doubt about that. I felt it was strange the day hue traded for Carson knowing Al would have never of done that trade. Knew from there it wouldnt be the same

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    peace

  • Jackie Bibby

    Now that the fans have gotten their hopes all up Mark is darn near gonna have to sign jon because so many of us want it or expect it to happen. If he doesnt make a move on jon and sticks with DA after a possible 3-13 season the stands are going to look like a casting for a new episode of the walking dead. Only people who will be there is jongruden13 and a bunch of pelicans.

  • dr_robert

    I’m torn. I would like to see Pryor and would love it if he did well. But if he plays and sucks, it would be fun to make fun of missdick.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    How many times will the Raiders throw short of the sticks on 3rd down?

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    sully, go back to holding conversations between your other blog handles.

    Your other imaginary personalities are the only ones who even pretend to care what you think
    ——————————————–

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    sully, go back to holding conversations between your other blog handles.

    Your other imaginary personalities are the only ones who even pretend to care what you think

    and that is only because you make them do so
    =====================================

    LMFAO.
    You post the top comment? And that slow brain realizes couple minutes later you should have added so and so? So you quote yourself, and add one sentence?

    Dude. Just yell out “I’M SLOW. TAKES ME A WHILE TO FORMULATE THOUGHTS.”

    That’s hilarious.

    Hey, maybe it’s that ripple that those white supremists made that has your brain all addled?

    I have bad news for ya, homey.
    You being a loser has nothing to do with your color.
    it’s true.
    You being rather illiterate has to do with your upbringing, not your color.
    That also is true.
    You whining about black qb’s compared to white qb’s?
    That’s your green with envy streak prompting that.

    It’s not your skin, Mistic, it’s obviously your Dad.

    Just ask him why he shared his ugly side with you. Ask why he drilled into you to hate whitey.
    You weren’t born with that.
    You were taught that.
    by a bitter little racist P-O-S that you call Dad.
    Good luck when you call him.

  • Raider Riff

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    Well whatever happens you can bet the CHARGERS are gonna make a play for CHUCKY soon.

    AJ smith/ NORV TURNER are gonna be out at end of the season.

    Maybe thats why mark is trying to get a jump start on things. Knows this can be his last chance

    ————-

    SD wont spend the money on Gruden.