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McFadden, Seymour at practice; McClain absent

By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 10th, 2012 at 11:48 am in Oakland Raiders.

Running back Darren McFadden and defensive tackle Richard Seymour are at practice today, which bodes well for their playing against the Kansas City Chiefs.
McFadden returned last week after missing four straight games. He played against the Denver Broncos on Thursday night but he reinjured his right ankle.
As for Seymour, this is the first time he has practiced since he suffered a hamstring injury against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4. He has missed the past five games.
McFadden is moving around well and looking like a guy that is ready to play Sunday against the Chiefs.
At one point, McFadden burst through some pads on the ground and sprinted toward the unsuspecting media contingent watching practice.
McFadden waited until he was right up on the media, screamed and grabbed beat writer Jerry McDonald around the waist as he ran through the scribes.

– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain is eligible to rejoin the team now that his two-game suspension for conduct detrimental to the team has ended and he has been reinstated to the 53-man roster.
However, he is not at practice today. The Raiders said in a press release that McClain isn’t “required” to be at practice today and that coach Dennis Allen will speak with McClain upon Allen’s return from Texas, where he is attending his father’s funeral.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch is the only other player not at practice today. He suffered an ankle injury against the Broncos on Thursday night. He also is nursing a neck injury from the Cleveland Browns game.

– Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp is running practice today once again during Allen’s absence.
Once practice ends, the media are permitted locker-room access to speak with the players. However, Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver won’t speak with the media until later this week.

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  • theghostronin79

    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    theghostronin79,

    Yes, firing Knapp is pointless now…..the damage is done….but if he is not fired within 1 day after our last game of the season, then Reggie and DA are both dumbfkers.

    ==========

    Oh I agree……Definately

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    Hope this team show their Fans some respect and show
    Reggie and Mark that the “BROWN BAGS” are going to continue
    There’s no room for Clowns like this!
    CORK I honestly ask you to really, really get tougher with your questions next time you have an interview with REGGIE and MARK and let them know , that we Fans are not willing to put
    Up with lack of CONDUCT and a “NEW RAIDER CODE” will apply in writting next year. We see weakness and hope they get rid of
    Mc Clain!

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Norv Turner for OC or die.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    81.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    When you draft a running QB, you just have to understand that you are getting a QB who will have a short shelf-life, and unless you can convert that QB to a pocket passer, he will probably be done by age 32, or sooner.

    That is why you pick a QB like Luck over a QB like RGIII every day of the week.

    Randall Cunningham had some effectiveness late in his career staying in the pocket for the Viqueens. I can’t think of any others.
    ============

    that is an opinion that isnt based on any evidence what so ever.

    Troy aikman had his career cut short from taking hits, was he a running qb?

    How many years did elway play? Elway played for a very long time and he was a runner.

    The qb takes most of his hits INSIDE THE POCKET, running qb or not.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Elway never ran like what these guys are doing today. Steve Young maybe? He was more of a past first and then run if you have to QB.

    Cunningham is the only one I can think of that played into his thirties after starting out with that style. I don’t recall McNabb running around near as much as the RGIII & Cam Newton types.

    Name some if you can.
    =============

    rgIII and newton are BEING ASKED TO RUN, that doesnt mean it thier preference to do so or they are any less of a so called “pass first’ qb as you ut it.

    Young and elway were not asked to run like rgIII and newton BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE THAT KIND OF ABILITY.

    In fact newton criticized his oc early this year for failing to d emphasize zone read qb runs from the shotgun.

    No dakota. RgIII and Newton Are just as good from the pocket as any other qb, and thier one of a kind athletic gifts make them that much more dangerous. just because a guy can run doesnt mean he is a ‘run first qb’ This is popular code language used to disparage thier throwing ability.

    Mcnabb wasnt asked to do it, cunnigham wasnt asked to do it either, although both clearly could have. they came at a time where teams where drafting qbs and forcing them to fit into an offense, now the opposite is true. The nfl was late to realize this was the best way to develop a qb and an offense.

    using qb option plays in the nfl is a new thing, predicated on the other worldly talent that these guys bring to the table.

    Back to your original point though, most qb hits happen in the pocket.

    Thiesman aikman montana young, all had thier careers cut short from taking hits in the pocket.

  • Dakota

    Here is a Holidy post from a couple of years ago: I MISS YOU AL!!!!!! Well, not really…..

    On the twelfth day of Christmas,
    Al Davis sent to me

    Twelve draft picks busting,
    Eleven lawsuits pending,
    Ten Losses a-leaping,
    Nine sycophants dancing,
    Eight wide-receivers dropping,
    Seven linebackers whiffing,
    Six DBs burning,

    Five injured o-line-men!

    Four offensive coordinators,
    Three leases broken,
    Two cities jilted,
    And a coach that is very an-gry!

  • Dakota

    Mistic1,

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s…..I can name tons of pocket passers who survived that late into their careers.

    Sorry, Elway was not a run orientated QB.

    My point is when you ask these QBs to do this, or allow them to, you have to understand that they are going to have short careers.

    Not even debatable.

  • tuckrulefool

    3-13

    KAN THE KLOWNE COACHE KADRE!

  • tuckrulefool

    OOPS !!

    3-13

    KAN THE KLOWNE KOACHE KADRE!

  • Dakota

    FRAN TARKINGTON! There, I did your job for you Mistic!

  • RaidingTexas

    Dakota Says:

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s

    ———————————–

    Bret Fahv-ruh

  • DennisAllensVisor

    I could see the Rams as a trade down partner..

    They have an extra 1st..

    Maybe they want to jump and get someone..

    So we would get the Redskins 1st pick & the Rams 2nd rounder.

  • Kirk

    Watching the Patriots on Sunday…

    Brady had all day to throw….a nice perfectly formed pocket, he could have set up a chair and a sofa and sat down.

    God we s uck.

  • Dakota

    111.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    I could see the Rams as a trade down partner..

    They have an extra 1st..

    Maybe they want to jump and get someone..

    So we would get the Redskins 1st pick & the Rams 2nd rounder.
    +++++++++++++

    Can they throw Howie’s son into the deal?

  • RaidingTexas

    Dakota Says:

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s

    —————————–

    That guy coaching across the Bay also comes to mind.

  • RaiderLen

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    I could see the Rams as a trade down partner..

    They have an extra 1st..

    Maybe they want to jump and get someone..

    So we would get the Redskins 1st pick & the Rams 2nd rounder.
    ———————————————-
    Afternoon Fellas,

    If we end up with a top 3 pick and Reggie decides to trade down, I’d hope that he could get more than that.

    If that’s the best deal available, I’d stand pat.

  • John David Booty

    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    theghostronin79,

    Yes, firing Knapp is pointless now…..the damage is done….but if he is not fired within 1 day after our last game of the season, then Reggie and DA are both dumbfkers.
    ——————————————————
    The only reason I dont think firing Knapp is pointless is because we do actually have some young players that we need to get some work out of before the season ends, just so we can see what we have on our hands. I do NOT want Knapp to be the one calling plays for anyone, ruining any of our young players future development. Would much rather just have Al Saunders calling plays for the last 3. I know its not going to happen, but still, playing any more games with Knapp just seems more pointless to me than not.

  • tuckrulefool

    Ok…no doubt we want 3-13

    and we definitely want that number 1 pick…

    trade it for a nice package…

    trade down to maybe 15…pick up our missing 2nd rnder and next year’s 1 from the trade partner…

    id do that in a second

    also dump dmac (thanks K-NAPP!)… for a 2nd…or a 1st next yr (prefer the latter)….

    this way we have a SHOT with some talent in 2013 and really stockpile for 2014…

    speaking of 2014…all these “2014 apologists” need to go home…

    HELLO!

    Indy 2-14—-> 10 wins+ this yr?
    same shat for SF last year.

    the league s FULL of these 1 yr tunarounds.

    why not oak? DONT dont give

    the KLOWNE KOACHE KADRE a built in excuse for 2013!

    the KADRE should go now let alone getting another FREE PASS IN 2013….

    NO KLOWNE EXCUSES!

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    When Jerry was in camp why didn’t he ask both of the players this QUESTION ¿ Why now you guys are so tough, is it, because the heat is on? We have and old saying, were there’s Smoke there’s fire! See they already try tried the water with their toes!
    Hate to see hipos!

    Let them know Fans are Fedup with them!

  • RaiderLen

    Tis the Season to stockpile Draft Picks and Cap room.

  • theghostronin79

    Can they throw Howie’s son into the deal?

    =========

    He’s got another son entering the draft in the form of a Mauling O-Lineman. He’s a little raw but, fundamentally he’s got the goods, and strong as hell. Choking guys until the whistle.

  • LondonAl

    McRaider5150 Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    I have been very patient with Carson Palmer as a fan. I was one of view people I know that thought he would be top tem statistically and up there with the best.

    Well, I am done giving Carson a pass. Is he the main problem? No! He is a problem though. You can actually put three or four loses on his shoulders. I am so tired of him throwing pics in the red zone. His ints always seem to come at the wrong time. I think he is worse than Tony Romo in that regard.

    I can’t say that Pryor would have won more games than Palmer, but I do think he would provide some excitement to the game.

    With that said, under Hugh Jackson this would be less of a problem. Hugh was able to call plays that match the skill that we have on the team.
    ===============================
    Sounds good on paper doesn’t it? Giving Pryor the nod for a full game. How do you think he would have faired behind our useless OL? A QB with zero NFL experience. We’d have lost a lot more games. No NFL QB can produce behind a poor OL. Our OL is not poor. It is the worst in over 40 years for the Oakland Raiders. Lamonica, Stabler, Plunkett and Gannon would have struggled behind this OL of ours.

  • theghostronin79

    Having them waive Bartell and elevate Checkwa makes me think they really ARE in evaluation mode. Maybe we’ll see Pryor yet.

  • RaiderLen

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    Can they throw Howie’s son into the deal?

    =========

    He’s got another son entering the draft in the form of a Mauling O-Lineman. He’s a little raw but, fundamentally he’s got the goods, and strong as hell. Choking guys until the whistle.
    ————————————–
    Walter Football has him going to the Raidahs in the 3rd rnd.

    For whatever that’s worth…lol

  • DennisAllensVisor

    RaiderLen Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    I could see the Rams as a trade down partner..

    They have an extra 1st..

    Maybe they want to jump and get someone..

    So we would get the Redskins 1st pick & the Rams 2nd rounder.
    ———————————————-
    Afternoon Fellas,

    If we end up with a top 3 pick and Reggie decides to trade down, I’d hope that he could get more than that.

    If that’s the best deal available, I’d stand pat.

    —-

    Well it can be for more, but the meat & taters are the 1st & 2nd Rounder.. This is a weaker draft class so, that will be a factor.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    theghostronin79 Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    Can they throw Howie’s son into the deal?

    =========

    He’s got another son entering the draft in the form of a Mauling O-Lineman. He’s a little raw but, fundamentally he’s got the goods, and strong as hell. Choking guys until the whistle.

    —-

    Kyle Long, I have him as a target for our 3rd round pick. Right Tackle..

  • Dakota

    114.RaidingTexas Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Dakota Says:

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s

    —————————–

    That guy coaching across the Bay also comes to mind.

    ______________

    I thought you were joking about Favre…..he obviously was not a run orientated QB…..Jim Harbaugh? That’s pushing it….

  • theghostronin79

    RaiderLen Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    Theghostronin79 Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    Can they throw Howie’s son into the deal?

    =========

    He’s got another son entering the draft in the form of a Mauling O-Lineman. He’s a little raw but, fundamentally he’s got the goods, and strong as hell. Choking guys until the whistle.
    ————————————–
    Walter Football has him going to the Raidahs in the 3rd rnd.

    For whatever that’s worth…lol

    ========

    Well I’ll be damned……LOL

  • RaiderSam

    Jackasspuria Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Via Rotworld.com

    Dwayne Bowe – WR – Chiefs
    Dwayne Bowe (ribs) has been ruled out for Week 15 against the Raiders.

    ================

    “Thanks, Ribs.”
    -Chappelle’s Show

  • theghostronin79

    Yeah DAV… I’ve been watching him play. He’s impressive and improved leaps and bounds every time he got on the field.

    Barnes Vs. Miller just made me sick……SICK.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    However you can get another LONG do it. KYLE LONG would be nice in the silver in black.

    Maybe he can teach bergstrom how to play

  • theghostronin79

    RaiderSam Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Jackasspuria Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Via Rotworld.com

    Dwayne Bowe – WR – Chiefs
    Dwayne Bowe (ribs) has been ruled out for Week 15 against the Raiders.

    ================

    “Thanks, Ribs.”
    -Chappelle’s Show

    =========

    LMMFAO

  • Dakota

    123.RaiderLen Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    Theghostronin79 Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    Can they throw Howie’s son into the deal?

    =========

    He’s got another son entering the draft in the form of a Mauling O-Lineman. He’s a little raw but, fundamentally he’s got the goods, and strong as hell. Choking guys until the whistle.
    ————————————–
    Walter Football has him going to the Raidahs in the 3rd rnd.

    For whatever that’s worth…lol

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Always good to have a long in the locker-room!

    http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/howielongnaked.png

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Favre & Harbaugh were definately scramblers..

    Farve wore a freaking CB’s facemask for crying out loud.

  • omoran

    Raider (since1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    We are your Fans give us your best or GET OUT HERE!
    There’s a 53 man roster right?
    Well I will Dump 30 players and stay with 23 ,
    Easy 53-30 = 23 players.
    How about you DUDES?
    How many will you Dump? Poll
    POLL? Show REGGIE AND MARK — Cork? You in.

  • LondonAl

    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    114.RaidingTexas Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Dakota Says:

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s
    =====================
    Bert Jones? He played for the old Colts and later the Rams. Not too shabby a QB.

  • RaiderLen

    LondonAl Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    114.RaidingTexas Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Dakota Says:

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s
    =====================
    Bert Jones? He played for the old Colts and later the Rams. Not too shabby a QB.
    ——————————————————–
    “Run Run” Jones had mad moves on the field well into His 60′s

  • LondonAl

    RaiderLen Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    LondonAl Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    114.RaidingTexas Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Dakota Says:

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs who lasted into their mid to late 30s
    =====================
    Bert Jones? He played for the old Colts and later the Rams. Not too shabby a QB.
    ——————————————————–
    “Run Run” Jones had mad moves on the field well into His 60’s
    ================================================
    I seem to recall we beat Jones and the Colts in Baltimore in the mid’ 70′s in a playoff game. He had a good game but Snake and Casper were too good for him that day. Ah happy days!

  • Dakota

    133.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    Favre & Harbaugh were definately scramblers..

    Farve wore a freaking CB’s facemask for crying out loud.

    ++++++++++++++++

    Lol….top season for Favre is 216 yards rushing….Cunningham had 500+ yards rushing in like 6 straight years and almost 1000 in one year.

    Vick had 900 and over 1000 yard rushing seasons.

    Tarkenton actually didn’t rush that much….so I take him back…..much more than Favre though.

    Scrambling QBs who can move in the pocket are not the type of QBs I am talking about.

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    When is PRYOR going to put his Sox on? I meant Helmet!
    Let get us a few Defensive coaches from teams like.
    Ravens Giants Packers Pittsburgh Atlanta Dolphins.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Dakota, yea thats why I said scramblers and not runners..

    Although I think Young was more of a runner..

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Dakota Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Mistic1,

    Once again, name some run oriented QBs
    ==========

    what is a run oriented qb?

    do you mean bobby douglass or tim tebow?

    from where i sit mcnair, cunnigham, mcnabb, culpepper, brooks, and so on have all been more than capabale pocket passers that were simply misused in offenses that failed to capitalize on their ability at one time or another.

    Just because a qb Can run, doesnt mean he is run oriented.

    This is code language, give it a rest

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    ” CAN’T WAIT TILL MAY OF NEXT YEAR ” 2013
    There’s so much S#it now dudes.
    Just can’t wait!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    I think where you are struggling Dakota, is acceptance of the fact that the so called scrambling qb has now been one upped by the wave of the future.

    You now have guys that can out run the defense for 70 yards or more, and they are every bit as good passing as they are running.

    Elway young montant staubach tarkenton, very good scramblers but not on the same level as a kappy, pryor, rgIII or newton in that regard.

    Its a whole new ball game and qb will never be the same

  • tuckrulefool

    AND LONDON A I AGREE…

    Palmer NOT the main reason we are here. however when u are havin a garage sale you throw in EVERYTHING u dont plan to use that has value.

    Pick up another 2nd this year for him to some team who is 90% there with a decent running game and good OL. he is a top 10 qb in THAT setup on THAT team.

    not here.

    time to see if TP6 is hot garbage, a star or somewhere in between.

    eitehr way, he needs to get out tehre.

    no better game than this one .

    home

    vs kc

    10 days to get him ready

    will the KLOWNE KOACHE KADRE do this?

    OF COURSE NOT!

    prediction…since they feel the heat (recent tough guy talk, etc)…they DO get him in on a few (2) wild cap plays and post game (loss) they try to tout this as..see we are seeing what we have’ etc etc zzzzzzzz

    NO ..we want him in all game…along with other youngsters (incl TJ, Checkwa, Ausberry and any other rook/young un’ we need to see b4 the season ends)…

  • theghostronin79

    This is code language, give it a rest

    142.omoran Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    ” CAN’T WAIT TILL MAY OF NEXT YEAR ” 2013
    There’s so much S#it now dudes.
    Just can’t wait!

    ===========

    We’ll see man. Full shake-up…….”Show me the money”
    That’s all I gotta say. Gotta show it to me.

  • RaiderLen

    Bobby Douglas was a run oriented QB.

    Check out his completion percentage. LOL

    Then You’ll understand why He was.

    Quack Quack

  • Twocents

    According to the draft chart at drafttek.com, the 4th pick is worth 1800 points.
    Dropping down nine spots should net a first, second and third from the other team.
    The problem is of course that few teams would give up that much unless it is for a francise QB. Unfortunately their are none in this years draft. Typical Raider luck.

  • Los Raida Locos

    Raiders let a coach go today?

  • Los Raida Locos

    Run Run was popular with the ladies.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Twocents Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    According to the draft chart at drafttek.com, the 4th pick is worth 1800 points.
    Dropping down nine spots should net a first, second and third from the other team.
    The problem is of course that few teams would give up that much unless it is for a francise QB. Unfortunately their are none in this years draft. Typical Raider luck.

    —-

    Doesnt mean that you cant make those points up with other picks, in other years..

    The combine will ALWAYS produce some guys who teams will go gaga over..