Jon Becker

  • The_Judge37

    679.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:31 am
    What Reggie should do is see what Balke would take for Alex Smith,..strait trade for DMC would be awesome,…DMC can back Gore up and we have a starting QB for several years,…I will mention it to Reg Sunday.
    ———-

    If you’re really in position to give this Front Office your opinions, and they really consider them, then no wonder they keep failing. Not meant to take a shot at you, but your opinions are pretty horrible.

  • nycraider

    wonder have many faithful raider fans will be happy with the Knapp- alex smith combo..LOL

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    bcz24 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    o it it isnt based on only 4 plays like you want to sell it either.

    he had 1 poor game and it was his first time on nfl football field for any play that counted.

    he bounced back and played well after ward. he got better with every snap.

    19/32 59% cmp 251 yds 7.8 ypa 2td 1 int 92.1 qb rate

    rushing 14 att 121 yards 8.6 ypa 1 td

    Please tell me on what part of the earth that these numbers would be viewed as anything other than outstanding for a rookie qb?

    Oh and by the way it was the only game we won.
    *******************
    Take away those 4 plays and tell me what his stats are.
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    bcz we have been through this before.

    why do you want to take plays off the board when he actually made them?

    Nobody evaluates a plyer and excludes positive plays made by the player being evaluated!??!?

    The fact that he made these four plays you seem fixated on, only means that he needs to be on the field more often. This proves that he is capable of making explosive plays in bunches.

    Im certain if ti were palmer that made those plays you would not take them off the board.

    your agenda is thinner than nary kate olsen

  • guest123

    raiderjhawk Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Alex Smith would set us back another couple of years. Signing him would just be foolishness.

    *********

    I’ll take that. Couple of years ago we were 8-8

  • The_Judge37

    702.nycraider Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    wonder have many faithful raider fans will be happy with the Knapp- alex smith combo..LOL
    ———-

    Raider logo will have to be amended to wear Two Eye Patches.

  • DJ Johnny

    684.Back-n-Black Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:32 am
    Haven’t weighed in on the Pryor argument, so here goes…

    Might as well play him. At this point I could care less what they do.

    I am so disgusted with every member and aspect of this team that nothing they do, short of firing coaches and cutting players, means anything until next season.

    Hell, at least it would give me something new to talk about.

    The Raiders are the worst franchise in professional sports… breaks my heart to write that, but what hurts even more is they don’t even care enough to do anything about it.

    I’m glad there are guys like you out there. You broke it down perfectly.

    Someone called everyone out on being “gullible fans” for anyone that bought in at all to the Gruden rumors and at first I defended that accusation with the fact that the “rumor” started from a guy who has been a respected and tenured sports analyst/insider for over 30 yr’s; but as it turns out yes I was “gullible”…”Gullible” to have the nerve to think that this org would actually do something like that and give us something to have hope in.

    Yep. Guilty. I should have known better.

  • bcz24

    your take doesnt matcht match the 19/32 59.4 cmp% he posted.

    You must have missed his 72 yard perfectly thrown rocket shot to criner, that had as much “zip’ as you are going to see in the nfl, and he did on the run.

    Did you have the sound down when he payed the lions? Gruden pointed out on more than one occasion how pryor WENT THROUGH HIS READS AND FULL RPOGRESSIONS. you probably didnt watch at all.

    pryor also threw receivers open by using back shoulder technique, and manipulated the secondary with eyes and created passing lanes.

    sorry but the game film and numbers simply contradict what you are trying to say about him.
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    You obviously didn’t watch it. BOTH of his long TD’s to Criner were prayers that Criner made plays on. Pryor said himself that they were ducks and that Criner really saved his ass on those. The 76 yarder was thrown about 20 yards from the LOS and it was an overthrow, Criner made an amazing finger tip catch and did the rest himself. The other 39 yarder was an ill advised underthrown into coverage that Criner also made an outstanding play on.

    Feel free to watch them again, and judge for yourself

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012082553/2012/PRE3/lions@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=analyze

    Oh and without those 2 plays, Pryor was 17/30 56.6% completion (56% isn’t very good, contrary to mistics opinion) for 136 yards. Thats 8 yards per completion. Also not very good. Like I said those 2 plays alone totally skewed the stat line. Take them away and suddenly Pryor is pretty mediocre. I would NEVER call 17/30 for 136 yards and 0 tds ‘outstanding’

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    POST-700,WELL PUT..

  • hwnrdr

    I agree that Harbaugh made a mistake…Kappy is really not thier answer either…but Smith will be gone from SF at season’s end for them!

  • raiderjhawk

    Making a mistake? Holy cow dude… I’d take my chances with Kappernick any day over Alex Smith. That guy looked like a back up at best until he finally had a good system in front of him. Kind of like Matt Cassel in NE… Alex Smith would be Jason Campbell Re dux.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    bcz24 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Well Al just made bad choices on who he signed. But he still always had money to do it. Javon Walker, DeAngelo Hall come to mind on poor choices.
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    Sure you can operate that way. BUT that is only a means of a 1 or 2 year run. Nothing else. You can not build for longevity via that means. It doesn’t work. Would rather go all in to win 1 year (which all did repeatedly and failed every single time) or would you rather take your lumps in the short term and do things the right way so you never have to go through it again.

    For every example of a GREAT FA signing in the NFL there are 100 failures.
    ===========================================

    Let’s examine these statements for a second. When Ted Thompson got the gig in Green Bay the very lst thing he did was go get Charles Woodson. Woodson is a lst ballot HOFer and has played very well for them. Do you know how Thompson could do that? Because the GB financial house was in order when Thompson took over. Do you think we could have used Woodson the last 7 years? But we couldn’t pay him because our financial house was a wreck and it STILL is.

  • The_Judge37

    Alex Smith is like Trent Dilfer. You don’t send him to save a team, you just hope he doesn’t cost your top 5 defense a game.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    nycraider Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Guest123 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    I agree that Pryor will not be the subject of discussion on this blog next year. Like him or not, he’s not in the teams plans. Move on.
    ———-
    I agree and will move on as long as people stop talking about Hue. At least Pryor is on our team
    ================================================

    Thank you for saying this. I don’t want to hear about Hue Jackson. I don’t want to hear about Gruden. I don’t want to hear about Cam Newton. None of those guys are on the team. Allen is. McKenzie is. Pryor is. McFadden and McClain are about to be former Raiders. These are the things I want to talk about. The people who are here. And people who can make us better.

  • hwnrdr

    LOL, I just read that Paul McCartney…Sir Paul McCartney is the new lead singer for Nirvana…What the…

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    guest123 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Did you have the sound down when he payed the lions? Gruden pointed out on more than one occasion how pryor WENT THROUGH HIS READS AND FULL RPOGRESSIONS. you probably didnt watch at all.

    *********

    Come on! You are going to defend Pryor with praise from Gruden?
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    gruden is a former super bowl winning head coach.

    he made a qb out of gannon.

    gruden coached steve young

    i think he knows if a qb can go through progressions or read the defnse when he is watching a qb play.

    Gruden could not have :”praised’ pryor on reading the defense if it didnt actually happen, but it did.

    Wow what planet are you cats on?

    Ill take grudens opinion over yours, and he contradicts what you say 100%

    “You can’t be more impressed with the guy physically,” said Gruden, via Pro Football Talk. “He’s all of six-foot-five, he’s 235 pounds. He’s a double threat. He’s one of those guys that can be a terror to defenses. He’s got some work to doBut he does have rare talent.” – john gruden

  • nycraider

    DJ Johnny Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    684.Back-n-Black Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:32 am
    Haven’t weighed in on the Pryor argument, so here goes…

    Might as well play him. At this point I could care less what they do.

    I am so disgusted with every member and aspect of this team that nothing they do, short of firing coaches and cutting players, means anything until next season.

    Hell, at least it would give me something new to talk about.

    The Raiders are the worst franchise in professional sports… breaks my heart to write that, but what hurts even more is they don’t even care enough to do anything about it.

    I’m glad there are guys like you out there. You broke it down perfectly.

    Someone called everyone out on being “gullible fans” for anyone that bought in at all to the Gruden rumors and at first I defended that accusation with the fact that the “rumor” started from a guy who has been a respected and tenured sports analyst/insider for over 30 yr’s; but as it turns out yes I was “gullible”…”Gullible” to have the nerve to think that this org would actually do something like that and give us something to have hope in.

    Yep. Guilty. I should have known better.
    ——————
    Man I feel your pain, when i look at my 16 year old son who i brainwashed at 4 years old to live and die as a raider fan, I sometimes wonder why did I do this to him especially with all the heat he takes from his buddies who root for the giants. At least i got to witness 3 superbowl wins. But , die hard fans like us are the only thing keeping Raider tradition alive right now. Its sad bc I had hoped reggie as an ex Raider would restore our team. Yes reggie has his excuses, yes he be here next year. But Reggie needs to make a move to give us hope..

  • DJ Johnny

    689.raiderjhawk Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    back n black,

    I feel the same way but I do feel that they are doing something about it. Taking our lumps this year to build a consistant, winning football team.

    it’ll get better, I still believe that but I also know that it’s hard to watch right now.

    So the big accomplishment is basically that they fielded possibly the worst team in franchise history and did nothing to prevent that?

    They have shown NOTHING that gives me ANY confidence whatsoever that they are the ones to bring brighter days to Oakland…outside of their willingness to sit back and take azz beatings from almost everyone they played.

    Maybe you’re seeing something that i am not.

    Believe me…i don’t want to feel this way.

  • raiderjhawk

    There are people who want to do things the quick way and people who want to do things the right way.

    Put me in the right way category please, even though these Raiders are hard to watch I at least feel that we are moving in the right direction. No more scholarship players, no more crazy contracts for washed up players and no more head cases.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    “Hes got some work to doo…”….translation,..I will say it nicely,..hes not a quarterback and never will be,

  • raiderjhawk

    fire knapp.

    (Sorry just had to throw that in there.)

  • guest123

    Alex Smith is getting kicked around pretty hard lately. Wasn’t a few weeks ago he was breaking a record on MFL. Something like 19 completions out of 20 attempts? He’s a good QB that plays within himself and doesn’t make critical mistakes. He’s not exiciting and doesn’t make the splash throws. But he can win games for you in bunches.

    I don’t know what you all are thinking, but I’d be happy to have him as a Raider. And his mobility in this offense is a perfect match. Not that I endorse Knapp time, but if we are stuck with it, Alex would be an upgrade. And we could stand to lose DMC as well for what he costs in salary.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    No more scholarships, crazy contracts,…head cases,..and no more winning and exciting times. Dennis Allen can put a tweeker with a bucket of crank to sleep.

  • bcz24

    he fact that he made these four plays you seem fixated on, only means that he needs to be on the field more often. This proves that he is capable of making explosive plays in bunches.
    *************
    Whoa whoa whoa, you said he played ‘outstanding’ even without those 4 plays. I proved that to be incorrect. I also adressed why I singled out those 4 plays. It is because they were an aberation. Why wasn’t he capable of making anything close to those 4 plays in any of the other 3 games?

    I have no agenda. I truly hope Pryor IS the qb you say he is. That would be fantastic for our franchise, we are set at QB for a long long time, and he costs peanuts. Hoping he succeeds isn’t going to change the fact that I don’t believe he is the QB you say he is. Nor will it stop me from sharing my opinion on this forum.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Alex Smith will be a Raider,…real soon,..hopefully even swap for that piece of crap McFadden. DMC can go to SF and carry Gores helmet.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    “Hes got some work to doo…”….translation,..I will say it nicely,..hes not a quarterback and never will be,
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    exactly.

  • shutdown

    “not really

    “on the slave plantation some slaves had privileges. They ere allowed to eat scraps form masa’s table, they were giving occasional time off, and even had thier pick of slave women at times.”
    _______________________________________________________

    They didn’t have the most important “privilege,” one that any athlete has, the freedom to walk away. No one makes a pro football player chose to play football.
    ___________________________________________________

    “Not much difference in the context that owners are hundreds of millions and billions in some cases.

    a few million is nothing to them, its scraps from the table.”

    Oh, get real. Now you’re playing the class card, pitting millionaire and multimillionaire players against owners who are even richer? Jesus.

    BTW, these modern day references to “massahs” and to slaves never make references to the origins of slavery for the black people who were brought in chains to this hemisphere: other blacks from other tribes captured them and sold them into slavery for big bucks.

    Nor do the commenters who love to use slavery references bother to refer to the fact that the practice of snatching people from other tribes is still very much alive in huge parts of Western Africa, that children are regularly trapped like an animal and then sold into other tribes to serve their masters. Not a white man around, mind you.

  • The Big Banana

    The right direction? Down? WTF

  • raiderjhawk

    I’m convinced that guest and JonGruden are the same person.

  • The_Judge37

    721.guest123 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
    Alex Smith is getting kicked around pretty hard lately. Wasn’t a few weeks ago he was breaking a record on MFL. Something like 19 completions out of 20 attempts? He’s a good QB that plays within himself and doesn’t make critical mistakes. He’s not exiciting and doesn’t make the splash throws. But he can win games for you in bunches.

    I don’t know what you all are thinking, but I’d be happy to have him as a Raider. And his mobility in this offense is a perfect match. Not that I endorse Knapp time, but if we are stuck with it, Alex would be an upgrade. And we could stand to lose DMC as well for what he costs in salary.
    ———

    How about instead of trying to get guys to fit Greg Knapps offense, we just get rid of Greg Knapp?

  • nycraider

    For everyone who wont even give Pryor a chance. i wish I could have had your opinion prior to the season on Andrew Luck, RGIII, Wilson, and tannehill..Arent they rookie qbs? Or are they 26 years old like the guy we drafted in the 3rd round. Give Pryor a chance. I laugh when a guy said reggie doesnt want to play Pryor bc he worth a 7th round pick and doesnt want to risk it, LOL..Ill risk a 7th round pick just in case Pryor does something no one expects him to do.

  • raiderjhawk

    trade DMC straight up for Alex Smith?

    Talk about a tweeker and a bucket of coke. This isn’t even rational.

  • raiderjhawk

    word NYCraider. word.

  • guest123

    How about instead of trying to get guys to fit Greg Knapps offense, we just get rid of Greg Knapp?

    ********

    Isn’t that what we have all been saying? But we may not get our wish this time. The need to stress committment to coaches and continuity could well be the party line this offseason. They don’t want to be seen as kneejerk reactionists like the last decade. I don’t like Knapp either. I want him fired too. But blog opinion and $2.41 will still only get you a tall dark roast coffee at Starbucks.

  • nycraider

    721.guest123 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
    Alex Smith is getting kicked around pretty hard lately. Wasn’t a few weeks ago he was breaking a record on MFL. Something like 19 completions out of 20 attempts? He’s a good QB that plays within himself and doesn’t make critical mistakes. He’s not exiciting and doesn’t make the splash throws. But he can win games for you in bunches.

    I don’t know what you all are thinking, but I’d be happy to have him as a Raider. And his mobility in this offense is a perfect match. Not that I endorse Knapp time, but if we are stuck with it, Alex would be an upgrade. And we could stand to lose DMC as well for what he costs in salary.
    ———

    How about instead of trying to get guys to fit Greg Knapps offense, we just get rid of Greg Knapp?
    ———————————
    agreed, didnt reggie bring in guys like briesel to make knapps offense work..how did that work out.

  • DJ Johnny

    718,

    But wasn’t it supposed “washed up players” and “head cases” that defined the Raiders when they reached the point of becoming the winningest organization in all of sports?

    I know what u are saying though.

    I also know teams can make quick turnarounds like the niners, and the colts and rams this yr., and the rams did it with a qb who is much worse statistically than the one we have currently.

    The “right way” doesn’t have to be the slowest way.

  • manassamauler

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Alex Smith is like Trent Dilfer. You don’t send him to save a team, you just hope he doesn’t cost your top 5 defense a game.

    > well i think Alex Smith is better suited to run this WC/NBS or whatever it is due to his mobility. Palmer has played well this year all things considered but to have a polished experienced QB like smith who can ALSO run when he has to has to be a bonus.

  • manassamauler

    nycraider Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    For everyone who wont even give Pryor a chance. i wish I could have had your opinion prior to the season on Andrew Luck, RGIII, Wilson, and tannehill..Arent they rookie qbs? Or are they 26 years old like the guy we drafted in the 3rd round. Give Pryor a chance. I laugh when a guy said reggie doesnt want to play Pryor bc he worth a 7th round pick and doesnt want to risk it, LOL..Ill risk a 7th round pick just in case Pryor does something no one expects him to do.

    >. why would Pryor play when they are paying palmer 10 mil+ to be the starter? you don’t pay 1o mil to somebody for being a backup. Pryor won’t start here unless palmer goes down with an injury.

  • manassamauler

    raiderjhawk Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    trade DMC straight up for Alex Smith?

    Talk about a tweeker and a bucket of coke. This isn’t even rational.

    >. its rational if the team cuts palmer. i would trade McAnkle for a pack of smokes at this point

  • manassamauler

    Cam Newton is 10-19 as s starter. he is a loser by definition.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    bcz24 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    your take doesnt matcht match the 19/32 59.4 cmp% he posted.

    You must have missed his 72 yard perfectly thrown rocket shot to criner, that had as much “zip’ as you are going to see in the nfl, and he did on the run.

    Did you have the sound down when he payed the lions? Gruden pointed out on more than one occasion how pryor WENT THROUGH HIS READS AND FULL RPOGRESSIONS. you probably didnt watch at all.

    pryor also threw receivers open by using back shoulder technique, and manipulated the secondary with eyes and created passing lanes.

    sorry but the game film and numbers simply contradict what you are trying to say about him.
    ************
    You obviously didn’t watch it. BOTH of his long TD’s to Criner were prayers that Criner made plays on. Pryor said himself that they were ducks and that Criner really saved his ass on those. The 76 yarder was thrown about 20 yards from the LOS and it was an overthrow, Criner made an amazing finger tip catch and did the rest himself. The other 39 yarder was an ill advised underthrown into coverage that Criner also made an outstanding play on.

    Feel free to watch them again, and judge for yourself

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012082553/2012/PRE3/lions@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=analyze

    Oh and without those 2 plays, Pryor was 17/30 56.6% completion (56% isn’t very good, contrary to mistics opinion) for 136 yards. Thats 8 yards per completion. Also not very good. Like I said those 2 plays alone totally skewed the stat line. Take them away and suddenly Pryor is pretty mediocre. I would NEVER call 17/30 for 136 yards and 0 tds ‘outstanding’
    ==========

    lol still trying to take plays off the board as if they never happened.

    First off If criner made a finger tip catch the ball had to be within his reach. so clearly pryor deserves half of the credit for throing the ball where criner could get it. this is the same argument you made when jc hit ford to beat kc the old “he bailed him out” argument. Didnt hold water then doesnt now.

    Even if you did take them off (in you bizzaro alternate universe) the numbers left behind are still solid for a a guy that is seeing the field for the first time.

    Any other rookie qb posting those numbers would greatly encourage the staff and team, and would warrant more playing time. ask ponder gabbert locker and kappy.

    I diagree that 8 yards per completion is “bad” in fact that is outstanding

    here are the top ten

    Robert Griffin III, 8.28

    Cam Newton, 8.26

    Alex Smith, 7.98

    Peyton Manning, 7.89

    Tom Brady, 7.74

    Matt Ryan, 7.70

    Josh Freeman, 7.56

    Russell Wilson, 7.55

    Drew Brees, 7.53

    Aaron Rodgers, 7.53

    where is carson palmer on this list? # 17

    so you can clealry see that the nfl considers 8 yards per pass very good.

    By the way did you notice who tops the list rgIII and newton

    wilson & freeman also in the top ten along with names we expect like manning brady brees and rodgers.

  • nycraider

    This post goes out to all the excuse makers, the guys who insist rebuilding cant be done in one year,….see below
    2006 Browns 4-12
    2007 Browns 10-6

    2006 Redskins 5-11
    2007 Redskins 9-7

    2006 TB 4-12
    2007 TB 9-7

    2007 Ravens 5-11
    2008 Ravens 11-5

    2007 Falcons 4-12
    2008 Falcons 11-5

    2008 Bengals 4-11-1
    2009 Bengals 10-6

    2009 KC 4-12
    2010 KC10-6

    2009 TB 3-13
    2010 TB10-6

    2009 ST L 1-15
    2010 STL 7-9

    2009 Bengals 4-12
    2010 Bengals 9-7(w/o CP3)

    2010 Broncos 4-12
    2011 Broncos 8-8(1st place)

    2012 year of the Excuse—2013 No Excuses!!!

  • manassamauler

    Cam Newton is 10-19 as a starter. he is a loser by definition.

  • nycraider

    Nycraider Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    This post goes out to all the excuse makers, the guys who insist rebuilding cant be done in one year,….see below
    2006 Browns 4-12
    2007 Browns 10-6

    2006 Redskins 5-11
    2007 Redskins 9-7

    2006 TB 4-12
    2007 TB 9-7

    2007 Ravens 5-11
    2008 Ravens 11-5

    2007 Falcons 4-12
    2008 Falcons 11-5

    2008 Bengals 4-11-1
    2009 Bengals 10-6

    2009 KC 4-12
    2010 KC10-6

    2009 TB 3-13
    2010 TB10-6

    2009 ST L 1-15
    2010 STL 7-9

    2010 Bengals 4-12
    2011 Bengals 9-7(w/o CP3)

    2010 Broncos 4-12
    2011 Broncos 8-8(1st place)

    2012 year of the Excuse—2013 No Excuses!!!

  • The_Judge37

    733.guest123 Says:
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:57 am
    How about instead of trying to get guys to fit Greg Knapps offense, we just get rid of Greg Knapp?

    ********

    Isn’t that what we have all been saying? But we may not get our wish this time. The need to stress committment to coaches and continuity could well be the party line this offseason. They don’t want to be seen as kneejerk reactionists like the last decade. I don’t like Knapp either. I want him fired too. But blog opinion and $2.41 will still only get you a tall dark roast coffee at Starbucks.
    ———–

    I don’t think commitment to coaches and continuity apply to the worst offensive play caller in NFL history.