Raiders quick notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some post practice and locker room notes before moving on to the print product . . .
– Raiders coach Dennis Allen wasn’t shedding any light on the details of what went on regarding the suspension of Rolando McClain. Allen did say, however, McClain had been informed he was being demoted to being a substitute linebacker and special teams player, and that’s the role he will continue in moving forward.
In other words, McClain got angry at the news he wasn’t starting _ he’d already lost his spot in the nickel defense before the Atlanta game _ and that precipitated the incident.
McClain was not present during the open locker room period.
Allen did not directly respond to McClain’s Facebook rants _ one of them had to do with playing for a “real team” _ saying things are said in the heat of the moment.
– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour practiced for the second straight day and Allen expects him to play. Seymour said his condition is about “same as Monday.”
– Allen said he expected Terrelle Pryor to play against Kansas City. Pryor has been active and had a set of plays to run in each of the last two games but hasn’t played.
– Defensive tackle Christo Bilukidi (illness) and strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck, ankle) did not particpate in practice.
– No worries about running back Darren McFadden _ he was a full participant in practice.
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December 12th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Papa on 957thegame. ‘Talk about the Raiders? Why? There’s nothing to talk about…’
December 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Two stories in one day? Thanks Jerry, You Rock!!!
December 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Reggie will trade down and end up drafting Barkeley… food for thought…
December 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
No on Barkley – yes on Aaron Murray
December 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Well TP’s debut will be blacked out locally.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
9.raiderjhawk Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I remember how let down I feel when I heard that Knapp was coming back…
I imagine that if the Raiders really were dumb enough to sign Alex Smith I would feel like jumping off a bridge.
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TRUTH AND TRUTH!
December 12th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
5.KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Well TP’s debut will be blacked out locally.
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I think they should call it whited out.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Dakota Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
5.KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Well TP’s debut will be blacked out locally.
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I think they should call it whited out.
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I do too, but that’s America for ya, Lol.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
COWABUNGA BROS
The Beeech Dawg is back in FULL EFFECT from a week partying serious in Maui
Got my tan on and hooked up with some major surf babes who (obviously) could not get enough of the ‘ol Beeeech Lawg
From coast to coast, the Lawg is the weiner the ladies love da most
I was telling this one smokin’ hot hizzy about this total loser on the football blog named Krappy who we bag on all the time
She was laughing pretty hard, then I showed her his real estate web site and she sprayed Mai Tai out through her nose
We ended up humping all night long, in the butt, btw
Got many more dope Beeeech Dawg stories from my trip, gotta go drop a duece and I hit y’all back
HIP HOP ‘N HOLLERIN’
December 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
If Knapp is back next year I’m gonna, I’m gonna, well, I am gonna complain about it A LOT in here, let me tell YOU PEOPLE!
December 12th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
9 days to the end times!!!
Good, then I won’t have to put up with the Raiders and this year’s Lakers anymore, and I will miss watching ND get waxed!
Woot!
December 12th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
206.The_Judge37 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
205.nycraider Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Reggie just traded Rolando and our 1st round pick to Gb for 5 practice squad players.
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ISI – Iron Sharpening Iron
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Herschel Walker style trade right there. Reggie would be feeling real good about that one.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
I presume Rolando is being kept around for business reasons.
Hopefully we won’t have these sorts of issues with High picks in the future.
Tp can be seen locally via the web. ATDHE I believe.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
7.Dakota Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
5.KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Well TP’s debut will be blacked out locally.
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I think they should call it whited out.
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I hate the NFL use of the term “Black out”. We Raiders fans used to refer to a Black out when we take over Qualcom Stadium.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
10.Dakota Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
If Knapp is back next year I’m gonna, I’m gonna, well, I am gonna complain about it A LOT in here, let me tell YOU PEOPLE!
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Lol, definetly going to be a lot of FML’s going around if that happens
December 12th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Dang, that was one smokin’ hot duece-dawg. Like a fire at the Hormel chili factory being doused with Tapatio
Must’ve been all the hot Hawaiian beev I was chowing on ‘dem islands, brahs. Those bizzies are packing pure tropical HEAT down below
Krud, totally forgot what I was going to say after that
December 12th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Dakota Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
If Knapp is back next year I’m gonna, I’m gonna, well, I am gonna complain about it A LOT in here, let me tell YOU PEOPLE!
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If Knapp comes back next year i think there may be protest in front of Oakland Raider head headquarters. LOL
December 12th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Oh yeah, so I was dissin’ KrappyRat hardcore at this open mic night at a tiki shack in Maui
The crowd was totally rollin’, some of my best material yet. And this smokin’ hot babe was totally droolin’ over the Lawg, then I realized he had fallen out of my open zipper
WHOOPSIE DAISY
Afterward the manager asked how I came up with my jokes, told him they practically write themselves
We smoked a huge spliff and I ended up mating with the babe in the audience on a bogie board
December 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dan78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Reggie will trade down and end up drafting Barkeley… food for thought…
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If this happens I hope he complains about being drafted to the Raiders and ends up getting traded to the chiefs to suck for them instead.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
The way to protest your dislike for the way the Raiders are doing things is to find another team to root for.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
20.Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
The way to protest your dislike for the way the Raiders are doing things is to find another team to root for.
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No, that is the way to express your desire for them to move to another city.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
For the locals who are upset the games blacked out,..just buy a ticket and enjoy the game. Thats how we roll.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Another most excellent story from my trip down Maui way
I was hangin’ with the Certified Platinum Posse at Spago’s in the 4 Seasons, when I got approached by a very important record label exec
He asked if I could rap a few lines from my upcoming hip hop album Wrecks N Effect, as a gift to his wife on their honeymoon
Of course he promised to buy me and my boyz endless Loco Moco, so I jumped up on the bar and laid down a verse to the beat of the crashing waves
At the end all the waitress tried to pull down my Wranglers to get a taste – just a taste – of the Lawg or Beeech Ballz
Ended up blowing them all off, cruising back to my suite, and busting a few solid nuts to some dirty movies on PPV
THATS JUST HOW THEM BIG DAWGS BARK
December 12th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
They are going to move to another city so get a head start and find another team.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
the wizard of oz staff!
December 12th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
If the Raiders do leave after the 2013 year they are for sure not to blame,..there are too many local bay area Raider fans that simply dont have what it takes to go to games,…they would rather sit on the couch,…if they head to LA the blame is squarely on the bay area fans who dont support…all my Raider friends and I attend every game,..whether we are winning divisions or are 3-13,..the record never matters to us. Its easy to be a fan of a 14-2 team.
December 12th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Well TP’s debut will be blacked out locally.
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Eh..
December 12th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
You better believe it, 2 cents
The Raiders will be kicking off at Farmer’s Field right near Trader Vic’s at Nokia Live around 2015
Got some early sketches of my premier luxury box, plenty of room for the PARTYDUDE 8000 Margarita Experience
Gotta get a permit from Villarigosa for a stripper pole then I can start planning the buffet, whut whut
December 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Goodell exploring the idea of expanding the playoffs from 12 to 14 or 16 teams.
Do it!
We can make the playoffs with a 6-10 record or even 5-11?? lol
December 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
If the Raiders do leave after the 2013 year they are for sure not to blame,..there are too many local bay area Raider fans that simply dont have what it takes to go to games,…they would rather sit on the couch,…if they head to LA the blame is squarely on the bay area fans who dont support…all my Raider friends and I attend every game,..whether we are winning divisions or are 3-13,..the record never matters to us. Its easy to be a fan of a 14-2 team.
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Which is why they are not going to LA. If this game was being played in a brand new stadium in LA, with five dollar tickets and Beyonce as the half time entertainment, there would be more people at one of the those E 14th St taco trucks lined up then LA fans to buy tickets.
I will bet a month from now you can get court side seats at Laker games right next to Jack Nicholson for forty bucks on Craigslist. And no one will still want them.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
CDE Post #1,
And that’s the voice of the Raiders and a guy I generally considered being a homer. You know it’s dam bad when he’s completely jumped ship.
From my perspective, I’d have to say morale is at an alltime low right now in the Nation. I think the performance under Shell Part II was marginally worse, but in my approximately 30 years of following the team, I think this is the lowest morale has been. I wasn’t around, or at least not old enoug to be a fan when they moved from Oakland to LA, so I can’t speak to that. But I’d say the morale now is worse than at any point between the Super Bowl loss to Tampa and the 2010 season when we finally started to at least win as many as we lost.
I think the killer is that we had those two years when things were on the upswing, and now we’re right back down in the dumper. I also think that added to that is at least the Raiders had an identity when Al was calling the shots and I think Hue prett much carried that on after Al’s passing. Now between Reggie and DA it’s like our identity is that we’re a weak team that’s an easy mark and basically a prime victim to be bullied and picked on. Basically the polar opposite of the team’s identit under Al.
Pretty sad when maybe the proudest moment of the team this entire year was the brawl in Cincy. At least you felt like there was some fight, somewhere in this org at that moment.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
yo
December 12th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
The Raiders wont go to LA,..but will for sure try for Dublin,..just like the Niners did, get the Hell out of the ghetto, and the crime around the stadium,..Candlestick is in the slums,..as is the coliseum,..the Niners in Santa Clara wont have to deal with the local trash trying to victimize fans,..when the Raiders move to Dublin everything will be fine. Sad truth.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
The Raiders wont go to LA,..but will for sure try for Dublin,..just like the Niners did, get the Hell out of the ghetto, and the crime around the stadium,..Candlestick is in the slums,..as is the coliseum,..the Niners in Santa Clara wont have to deal with the local trash trying to victimize fans,..when the Raiders move to Dublin everything will be fine. Sad truth.
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Problem with that is there new stadium is so expensing only about 40% of Whiner season ticket holders are renewing. So the Whiners are making a big push to the candy assed locals down in Santa Clara.
If the Raiders moved to Dublin licenses would run tens of thousands of dollars and games $300 a pop. Thank you Jerry Jones.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
The Niners will fill every seat for every game,..nothing but people with money down there….the Raiders would do much better in Dublin in a new place then where theyre at now.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Is there a Spearmint Rhino in Dublin?
December 12th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
From my perspective, I’d have to say morale is at an alltime low right now in the Nation.
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I would probably agree. Raider fan has nothing to get excited about. The team has played poorly, there needs to be more wood chopping, and the fan base has zero confidence in either Allen or McKenzie. Which is a shame frankly. As I have said fifty times this week it is not like Allen and McKenzie took over a team that was 12-4 last year.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
36.The Beeech Dawg Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Is there a Spearmint Rhino in Dublin?
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Sam’s is better
December 12th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
The Niners will fill every seat for every game,..nothing but people with money down there…
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True. But they are going to be filled with corporate types that don’t give a fook about what is going on down on the field. Like at Super Bowl games where 75% of the attendees have never even been to a high school football game and all the real fans are at the very top of the third deck.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Nothing to get excited about????…me and all my Raider buds are excited, theres a home game in four days…huge tailgate,..then playing our biggest rivals,…no excitement?…speak for yourself.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I would probably agree. Raider fan has nothing to get excited about. The team has played poorly, there needs to be more wood chopping, and the fan base has zero confidence in either Allen or McKenzie. Which is a shame frankly. As I have said fifty times this week it is not like Allen and McKenzie took over a team that was 12-4 last year.
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But, they did inherit a 8-8 team, which is a lot better than 3-10, FYI.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Jed York would rather have corporate heads in his new stadium then a bunch of ghetto scum from Hunters Point. Ya feel me?
December 12th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Im very excited about this Sunday,..marinating wings already. Cant wait!
December 12th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
“Allen said he expected Terrelle Pryor to play against Kansas City. Pryor has been active and had a set of plays to run in each of the last two games but hasn’t played.”
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This tells me that when pryor enters the game he will be in shotgun and run a simple zone read. Everyone in the stadium will know whats coming.
Knapp will fail to utilize any motion or boot action play fakes to allow pryor to throw the ball over the top of the defense which will no doubt stack the box and sell out for the run as soon as they no. 6.
Knapp will fail to set up the zone read with anything leading up to pryors debut.
This will drastically impact the effectiveness of knapps play call.
i hope pryor still finds a way to make a play out of it
December 12th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
But, they did inherit a 8-8 team, which is a lot better than 3-10, FYI.
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Yup. And they took that great Super Bowl Bound 8-8 team and began to disassemble it. Which was the right thing to do.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
No way any joint can top Spearmint Rhino
First time there I went bareback with a hot nubian hizzies in the poop chute near the pinball machine
With the Raiders at Farmer’s Field, I’ll be able to park my tour van at Nokia Live and just ride my skateboard to the stadium
Easily score all the grass and coke I need for the game on the way, holla
December 12th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Gruden13,
Any special marinade? I enjoy cooking and always looking for some new ideas.
Thanks
December 12th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
No way any joint can top Spearmint Rhino
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Tecate Tuesdays at Sam’s, Nuff Said.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Pryor sucks and wont see the field Sunday,…put him on special teams maybe with Rolando.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Ya Miami,..just regular bbq sauce with tequila in it.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
45.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
But, they did inherit a 8-8 team, which is a lot better than 3-10, FYI.
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Yup. And they took that great Super Bowl Bound 8-8 team and began to disassemble it. Which was the right thing to do.
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No, actually they took that great Super Bowl Bound 8-8 team and made it worse without much Roster turn over.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
There you go, haven’t tried that one. Thx
December 12th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
“Allen said he expected Terrelle Pryor to play against Kansas City. Pryor has been active and had a set of plays to run in each of the last two games but hasn’t played.”
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This tells me that when pryor enters the game he will be in shotgun and run a simple zone read. Everyone in the stadium will know whats coming.
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Exactly. Then they can say they played him, simple.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
No way any joint can top Spearmint Rhino
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Tecate Tuesdays at Sam’s, Nuff Said.
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Go on
December 12th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
$2 Tecate beers on Tuesdays. And as usual, no cover charge.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This organization doesnt care that a small group of fans want to see Pryor run around and look stupid,…they have no interest in Pryor, know hes gone in three weeks…only way Pryor gets in a game is its a lopsided score for whichever team.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
KrappyRat, you think your Oldsmobile will make it down the grapevine for a Raider game?
Actually I think Farmer’s Field might be a little too new fangled for you
You can’t get you diaper changed on those pull down kiddie tables they have at the O
December 12th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Judge
Those are beer specials at a strip club?
December 12th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
$2 Tecate beers on Tuesdays. And as usual, no cover charge.
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What’s the policy on going bareback in the VIP booth
December 12th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
When i watch Raiders games now, I dream that Tom Cable walks out onto the Sideline and slap the Headset off Greg Knapps head, breaks his clip board across his knee, then gets back on a plane headed to Seattle.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
58.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Judge
Those are beer specials at a strip club?
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Yes. Sams Hoffbrau in Downtown LA
December 12th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
59.The Beeech Dawg Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
$2 Tecate beers on Tuesdays. And as usual, no cover charge.
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What’s the policy on going bareback in the VIP booth
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Like the women, it’s a loose policy, but you don’t want to go barebacking in Sam’s.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
LMAO at Beech…
Def hitting that up when I return to visit my hometown.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
McClain had been informed he was being demoted to being a substitute linebacker and special teams player, and that’s the role he will continue in moving forward.
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#55 is the new Travis Goethel / Ricky Brown.
wait… McClain & Branch aren’t starting versus KC??
are we actually trying to win the game !!!??
December 12th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
LMAO at Beech…
Def hitting that up when I return to visit my hometown.
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PMPP N FULL EFFECT
December 12th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
allens presser was a snooze fest.
he said nothing as expected, but he doesnt seem like a guy that inspires the team.
he plays favorites and isnt consistent with his meassage.
Players see righ through this guy, i hope he isnt back next year.
marc trestman
kyle shanahan
chip kelly
perry fewell
not in this order
December 12th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Gruden2013 I respect the fact that you are a true Raider fan bro win lose or tie!!! I read daily but my first post ever! We all should have known this would happen with new GM HC DC OC retread! I have to agree with post #31 we have no identity now that AD has passed we could use Gruden’s presents on the sidelines or in the front office or both but thats only a dream! As for the Raiders returning to LA its going to happen our team plays in a dump of a stadium with the two 37inch jumbotrons and a sound system that blows up during Ice Cubes performance opening night HAHAHA what a joke!! LA will support the Raiders and the return of the Rams as well make it down!! The NFL wants two teams in LA!!! As much as I enjoy flying up to the Bay and partying with classier fans the fact is theres more $$ in LA than Oaktown!
December 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Pryor?
Please NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s beat the Chiefs
and then perhaps we can experiment with TP.
Carson Palmer has played well.
He’s not the issue.
And he gives the Raiders the best chance to WIN on Sunday.
Beat
the
Chiefs!
December 12th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
CDE Post #1,
And that’s the voice of the Raiders and a guy I generally considered being a homer. You know it’s dam bad when he’s completely jumped ship.
From my perspective, I’d have to say morale is at an alltime low right now in the Nation. I think the performance under Shell Part II was marginally worse, but in my approximately 30 years of following the team, I think this is the lowest morale has been. I wasn’t around, or at least not old enoug to be a fan when they moved from Oakland to LA, so I can’t speak to that. But I’d say the morale now is worse than at any point between the Super Bowl loss to Tampa and the 2010 season when we finally started to at least win as many as we lost.
I think the killer is that we had those two years when things were on the upswing, and now we’re right back down in the dumper. I also think that added to that is at least the Raiders had an identity when Al was calling the shots and I think Hue prett much carried that on after Al’s passing. Now between Reggie and DA it’s like our identity is that we’re a weak team that’s an easy mark and basically a prime victim to be bullied and picked on. Basically the polar opposite of the team’s identit under Al.
Pretty sad when maybe the proudest moment of the team this entire year was the brawl in Cincy. At least you felt like there was some fight, somewhere in this org at that moment.
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It’s cause our head coach is a total pu$$y and his staff suck at their jobs. And Reggie has shown more arrogance than promise….If this staff is back year, I’m gonna make some serious changes in my financial commitment to this team.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DING! DING! DING! We haaave a winner!
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…morale now is worse than at any point between the Super Bowl loss to Tampa and the 2010 season when we finally started to at least win as many as we lost.
I think the killer is that we had those two years when things were on the upswing, and now we’re right back down in the dumper.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
allens presser was a snooze fest.
he said nothing as expected, but he doesnt seem like a guy that inspires the team.
he plays favorites and isnt consistent with his meassage.
Players see righ through this guy, i hope he isnt back next year.
marc trestman
kyle shanahan
chip kelly
perry fewell
not in this order
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Shanahan isn’t coming here nor should he. I would add David Shaw, Hue, Gruden, Del Rio to your list. ALL are better than this joker.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
As Raider fans we love the drama!!! As much as we hated AD we loved him at the same time!!! DA & RM are boring and lack personality that we all have come to love about the Raiders!!
December 12th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
With the Release of Bartell, it gives me some hope that Reggie is willing to realize his mistakes and correct them. Hopefully he does the same with this staff
December 12th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Ben Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Pryor?
Please NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s beat the Chiefs
and then perhaps we can experiment with TP.
Carson Palmer has played well.
He’s not the issue.
And he gives the Raiders the best chance to WIN on Sunday.
Beat
the
Chiefs!
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nope it is no longer about beating any team on the schedule it is about giving tp the most exposure possible so he may be evaluated
December 12th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Go Warriors! Fck The Heat!
December 12th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
nope it is no longer about beating any team on the schedule it is about giving tp the most exposure possible so he may be evaluated
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Speak for yourself, i still don’t want to lose to the Qu33fs
December 12th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
allens presser was a snooze fest.
he said nothing as expected, but he doesnt seem like a guy that inspires the team.
he plays favorites and isnt consistent with his meassage.
Players see righ through this guy, i hope he isnt back next year.
marc trestman
kyle shanahan
chip kelly
perry fewell
not in this order
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Shanahan isn’t coming here nor should he. I would add David Shaw, Hue, Gruden, Del Rio to your list. ALL are better than this joker.
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i didnt say any one was “coming here”
i said i would like the guys on my list
MR how do you know what coach is or isnt coming?
RGR, why wouldnt you want kyle shanahan? dont you think that washingtons offense is pretty good?
I would also take gruden or shaw or ray horton.
add the seattle defensive coordinator to the list gus whats his name
December 12th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
nope it is no longer about beating any team on the schedule it is about giving tp the most exposure possible so he may be evaluated
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Speak for yourself, i still don’t want to lose to the Qu33fs
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its elementary really
teams in this position place a higher value on evaluating young players than winning a pointless game.
It is a step above pre season
December 12th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I know Seattles LB’s coach is Ken Norton Jr…bring him in.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
McClain being singled out n blamed for the run defense woes….and Miles”Whiff Kid”Burris was an upgrae in the nickel n pass packages…Tha Devil
December 12th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
#77 You think Shannahan’s kid would come to work for Al Davis? I don’t think that would go over well. Well aware of what they have done in Washington, still wouldn’t hire him though.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
81.MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
#77 You think Shannahan’s kid would come to work for Al Davis? I don’t think that would go over well. Well aware of what they have done in Washington, still wouldn’t hire him though.
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You’re aware Al Davis is dead right?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
So 55 is that important to the STs????
LMFAO
Sucks enough to be demoted twice, but not cut????
LMFAO
December 12th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
80.KRAWFDADD Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
McClain being singled out n blamed for the run defense woes….and Miles”Whiff Kid”Burris was an upgrae in the nickel n pass packages…Tha Devil
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At least Wiff Kid trys, that’s more than what McClain does on the field.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
83.J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
So 55 is that important to the STs????
LMFAO
Sucks enough to be demoted twice, but not cut????
LMFAO
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Demoted 3 times
December 12th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Well I for one find it refreshing that there are real reprocussions, even for star players, for a lack of production and a me first attitude. This tells me enough to give DA a few years to see what he can do.
As for Reggie’s ability to find talent we will find out this offseason.
As for Knapp, his inability to find a way to use McFadden properly tells me enough about his ability to be the OC for this team. Think he and McClain will be the fall guys this year.
Praying we draft Werner in the first and a big ole NT in the third. Lots of depth in the DT position this year and lot of front end talent at DE. Tough to be positive in a true rebuild season but for better or worse there is no going back from where the Raiders came.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Multiple looks on D,our coach is a defensive guru.Ive watched every game this season havent seen not a 1 exotic look on Defense.My lil cousins pop warner team showed me more exotic packages thant this krok of Chytt a$$ coaching staff that we have……Heads Need To Roll.And I saw some people calling Hue a snakeoil salesman wth do you call this guy?Sure as hell aint a coach in my book
December 12th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Tries what @ Judge 37 to close his eyes and tackle with his head down and get stiff armed into the infield
December 12th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
909,…LA isnt getting the Raiders,..if they ever get NFL again its years and years away,…read Sam Farmer,…they may get expansion, but its not close,..Oakland or Dublin will build a stadium years before LA does.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Ahhhh yeah what happened to all the multiple fronts on D? Smh.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
88.KRAWFDADD Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Tries what @ Judge 37 to close his eyes and tackle with his head down and get stiff armed into the infield
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Better than McJogger getting pushed 10 yards down field
December 12th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
LA Raiders in 2yrs or even less! Wow!
December 12th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
90.KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Ahhhh yeah what happened to all the multiple fronts on D? Smh.
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The Blitz are pretty exotic. I’ve never seen 7 guys run into 5 blockers before.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
3-13 baby!!
December 12th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Question
why have moore, lee, bartell and romac all been benched or demoted or cut for performance yet palmer has not been made accountable?
palmer has not been pulled at any point yet he has thrown picks in 9 straight games, and a whopping turn overs in our losses.
allen has not given a consistent message on performance
December 12th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
There might be NFL expansion in LA in about 8 years at the earliest,…Raiders are getting the Hell out of Oakland,..but not to LA,…Dublin Im hearing is going to happen,…stadium built there for the 2017 season. The Raiders extending the coliseum lease another 3 years next month,..through the 2016 year,..youre very welcome.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
LA Raiders!!!
December 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
My buds and family in LA say they don’t want the Raiders again……..it wall be Oakland or over the hill in Dublin……
December 12th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Question
why have moore, lee, bartell and romac all been benched or demoted or cut for performance yet palmer has not been made accountable?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What about Knapp? When is he going to get benched.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
David Lee almost took out Lebron, too bad his shoulder still looks to be in place.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
* will be *…98
December 12th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
98.fingers Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
My buds and family in LA say they don’t want the Raiders again……..it wall be Oakland or over the hill in Dublin……
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The City doesn’t want the Raiders, but they haven’t been able to sell the Chargers in LA so they might not have a choice. LA is Raiders market.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
This team is in a world of pain. You know thats right. So much pain you can hear the agony, the cries, the wailing and gnashing of teeth. So much woe is unto this team. No direction. Decision making is zero. The stadium trembles when the Raiders take the field. So much sorrow. So much pain.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I wonder why the city of Pasadena even bothered to get city council to pass specifically 5 yrs of NFL football in the Rose Bowl. Seems kind of rushed now that I know LA isn’t getting a football team for 8yrs.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Speak for yourself Guster,…(about your 100th name in here)…all that sorrow you mention, youre just talking about your own life. Bummer for you.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Burris gets pushed on the ground@ Judge point being its the same results but everybody wants to persecute one player who’s actually playing out of position @ that.Put him in a 34 and Im willing to bet he would be more of a contributer
December 12th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
104.Breaking_Black Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I wonder why the city of Pasadena even bothered to get city council to pass specifically 5 yrs of NFL football in the Rose Bowl. Seems kind of rushed now that I know LA isn’t getting a football team for 8yrs.
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Try not to take too much info from here seriously. It’s about as relaiable as ESPN reporters.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Fingers Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
My buds and family in LA say they don’t want the Raiders again……..it wall be Oakland or over the hill in Dublin……
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When did the city get together and vote on which team they want!? I live here with buds and family and no one invited me!
December 12th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
klay Thompson is lightin’ the Heat up bigtime.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
81.MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
#77 You think Shannahan’s kid would come to work for Al Davis? I don’t think that would go over well. Well aware of what they have done in Washington, still wouldn’t hire him though.
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You’re aware Al Davis is dead right?
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Meant to say Al Davis’s son…But yes he is not here unfortunately.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Pasadena has not granted one day of NFL, much less 5 years,…you can do better then that cant you?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
106.KRAWFDADD Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Burris gets pushed on the ground@ Judge point being its the same results but everybody wants to persecute one player who’s actually playing out of position @ that.Put him in a 34 and Im willing to bet he would be more of a contributer
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I’ve said it before, playing out of position is no excuse for lack of Hustle. Sorry Burris is playing like a 4th round pick, but McClain plays like an UDFA
December 12th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Mark Davis will take the 200 million offered by the League for a new stadium and find the backers in the Bay Area for the rest…..One losing season and any stadium in lA would be a ghost town….Rams and an Afc team other than the Raiders will be down there
December 12th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Meant to say Al Davis’s son…But yes he is not here unfortunately.
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Agreed, if there was any time for an impulse firing, it’s now
December 12th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
This off season for the Raiders will be the most boring ever,..not a single coaching change, and dont bother getting amped up for the first day of free agency…unless you like players being released, like I do, this off season will be the most quiet ever.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
The DVD and Chekwa duo could have did wwhat the Bartell/Spencer duo did this season…nadadammthing
December 12th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Quiet off season after 3-13?!
LA Raiders!!
December 12th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Burris misses a lot of tackles and is also bad in coverage as well… But like you said, he gets an A for effort. Hes a good band aid but not some one to build around.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Well, there probably won’t be any over the hill Vet, tease signings.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Jongruden…. Agree….theirs gonna be plenty of players released….and that’s gonna be a good thing for the team….major overhaul coming
December 12th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Pasadena has not granted one day of NFL, much less 5 years,…you can do better then that cant you?
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/20/pasadena-approves-up-to-five-years-of-nfl-at-rose-bowl/
December 12th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Who does McClain have to coach him up Biekert was getting some results out of him he showed flashes then they bring this doo doo on a stick coaching staff that cant spot talent if it was on a billboard sign flashing
December 12th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Reggie will dump about 25 players in three weeks…and none of those will be in the NFL next year.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Lol,..PFT?????…oh they never make sht up,..never. LMAO
December 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I still remember their big headline last week about Gruden in talks with Raiders…Florio is nothing but a BS artist.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
OH JONGRUDEN2013.
Now that’s a trustable source.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
DA is getting less and less reporters/schills at hus press conferences…lol even jerryand cork have given up on this team..
December 12th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I still remember their big headline last week about Gruden in talks with Raiders…Florio is nothing but a BS artist.
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And you were gobbling it up like a pig in slop.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raiders don’t need a new stadium – the A’s do. Oakland should build the A’s a new stadium and remodel O.co – much cheaper. Raiders need to focus on fielding a quality team – if they are winning and selling out O.co as football-only everything is fine. Nobody says the Packers need a new stadium because theirs is old – they sellout in the smallest market and still win consistently. Raiders need to take over O.co, build permanent seats in the bleacher area, remodel the luxury boxes, remodel the locker rooms, get better replay screens, fix the parking situation and start winning some f*in games! – everybody wins.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Question
why have moore, lee, bartell and romac all been benched or demoted or cut for performance yet palmer has not been made accountable?
palmer has not been pulled at any point yet he has thrown picks in 9 straight games, and a whopping turn overs in our losses.
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Going out on a limb here, but my guess is people who are paid to evaluate nfl football look at each and every player on each and every play many times over and have come to a different conclusion about Palmer than you have. I admit they have an agenda, which is playing the best guy they have at each position.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Get us some Grady Jackson Darrel Russell Sam Adams John Parella type of dt’s and not an aging Seymore and Henderson Tommy Kelly Bryant types to stuff and dominate @ the line of scrimmage
December 12th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
cant wait till you see what reggie has in store for you…you think 3-13 is bad….
December 12th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
“Allen said he expected Terrelle Pryor to play against Kansas City. Pryor has been active and had a set of plays to run in each of the last two games but hasn’t played.”
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This tells me that when pryor enters the game he will be in shotgun and run a simple zone read. Everyone in the stadium will know whats coming.
Knapp will fail to utilize any motion or boot action play fakes to allow pryor to throw the ball over the top of the defense which will no doubt stack the box and sell out for the run as soon as they no. 6.
Knapp will fail to set up the zone read with anything leading up to pryors debut.
This will drastically impact the effectiveness of knapps play call.
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Hedging your bets? Getting nervous and frontloading your excuses?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
i want talented players to accomodate the effort,not effort players with UFL talents on D (Burris,Giordano,Shaunessey,Bryant,Bartell,Spencers etc)
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Off season move fire Knapp = successful offseason
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I hope PRYOR GETS HIS CHANCE and tears it up. I mean not for his sake cuz he is a hardworker.. but for the RAIDERS too. Bring some excitment. A young guy working hard proving himself.
All the greats said they refused to be taken off the field when they got their chance. I hope pryor takes off and forces the raiders not to bench him.
LEINART? pluhhhese lmao.. gtfoh
December 12th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Im done
FREE TP6!!!!!
peace
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your talk of slavery and implications that millionaires like pryor and newton are slaves is disgusting and obscene. it devalues all of the horrific things that actually happened to slaves. u disrespect all of the black people who were mistreated and suffered inhumanely and those who fought so hard to change it.
ur despicable.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
9-1 vs the Raiders,..one ring,..with Raiders. Uh huh.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Palmer is our best opportunity to win each game:
That is a fact as much as it is a …
December 12th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
“Allen said he expected Terrelle Pryor to play against Kansas City. Pryor has been active and had a set of plays to run in each of the last two games but hasn’t played.”
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This tells me that when pryor enters the game he will be in shotgun and run a simple zone read. Everyone in the stadium will know whats coming.
Knapp will fail to utilize any motion or boot action play fakes to allow pryor to throw the ball over the top of the defense which will no doubt stack the box and sell out for the run as soon as they no. 6.
Knapp will fail to set up the zone read with anything leading up to pryors debut.
This will drastically impact the effectiveness of knapps play call.
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Hedging your bets? Getting nervous and frontloading your excuses?
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LOL! yeah. he finally will get to see his bot and without any information, he is already making excuses. get ready for several months of hearing how unfair the raiders were to pryor. missdick is the ultimate space-age wave-of-the-future idiot.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Two rings, Super Bowl ring and Hall of Fame ring.
How many you got?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Take it for whats it worth, u can believe it or not but . reading the primieum part on another raiders board. If Reggie trades down he can be looking at some WR JUSTIN HUNTER out of TENNESSEE. I dont know to much about about him but he is from Reggies Alma matter and Mckenzie is said to be intrigued with him.
Btw I was listening to some football Analyst and he said the RAiders have some many missing parts all over the football field they can virtually take any player in the draft and plug him in right away. Thats how much talent they need. Just take best play available.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Question
why have moore, lee, bartell and romac all been benched or demoted or cut for performance yet palmer has not been made accountable?
palmer has not been pulled at any point yet he has thrown picks in 9 straight games, and a whopping turn overs in our losses.
allen has not given a consistent message on performance
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easy. palmer has been good. the others have sucked. everyone gets it but u.
DA is very consistent. if ur good, u play. if u suck, u get the axe.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Ron Wolf “Marcus Allen the best player I’ve ever seen in my 25yrs with the Raiders”
December 12th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Old Kell,…you angry again? I have as many superbowl rings as you have dude. You need to let go of all your bitterness.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
i think this may be the plan:
trade palmer.
play pryor enough to see what he has. in the likelihood that he sucks at qb, convert him to wr.
trade down and pick up geno smith in the middle of the 1st.
missdick will be in paradise.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Montana and Allen both went to KC,..didnt get it done when they were there. Thats the facts.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
HOF ring?
I didn’t you get a ring when you are inducted in the HOF.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Old Kell,…you angry again? I have as many superbowl rings as you have dude. You need to let go of all your bitterness.
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What am I bitter about Doofus Boob?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Old kell is in one of his angry man moods,..he should drink osme wine and relax, listen to some Christmas music,..instead hes got in on the NFL network madder then a hornet. Poor ol dude.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Yes we get it Mistic.
The only problem with this team is Palmer and all we have to do to fix it is put Pryor in or a quarterback who is equally black.
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who said any of this?
why are you bring his race into the discussion?
race baiting?
do you have a football take to refute my post?
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because moron, u were touting griffin and newton, and then threw out a comment about freeman and wilson too. why is it ur so obsessed with black qb’s? everyone here sees it. ur a joke.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I dont know why you are bitter dude, nor do I care. Nobody here cares youre angry bud. Sorry.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
If there’s anybody bitter here, it’s the Al Davis freaks, like you Boob.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider(since 1967)
★★★★★★★
Year is about to end. What are we waiting for man?
Lets make some noice REGGIE, bring the garbage truck and lets get vertical. 53 men – 30 dump = 20 men will be left.
Lets hit the Draft board.
QB OT LB(TEO) CB S -about 10 new guys!
December 12th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
All this losing has brought a mountain of pain. You know thats right. So much pain and suffering. Woe be unto the Raiders. Too much losing means to much pain. Oh the horror, the misery, the woe. I hate losing. Wish we had a winner. But what we got is a whole lot of nuthin and a whole lot of pain and sorrow. So sad, so sad. The days have grown darker and the nights are colder, and the pain and misery and woe will not go away.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
hey missidck–if ur not a complete coward, u will respond. are u going to make excuses for pryor if he sucks on sunday?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
We’re gonna hear more Al bashing I”m afraid.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Vedder singing with Floyd sounds pretty dam awesome.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Kell,..I have an extra pair for KC,..row 5 on the aisle,.want them?…free,..games not on tv.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
3-4 D next year. Reggie needs to maneuver to get 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds.
draft order: DE, NT, CB, MLB, OLB
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Hes not singing with Floyd.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Yo kell,..Al Davis freaks?…hes dead,..I stopped thinking about Al Davis well over a year ago.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Why is McClain even on this team anymore. What possible purpose could that serve?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Kell you and mr are the last of the Al Davis freaks,..its just you two that still hang on to him,..the rest of us have moved on.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Well, he’s singing Floyd songs with Roger Waters. Close enough.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Kell,..I have an extra pair for KC,..row 5 on the aisle,.want them?…free,..games not on tv.
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You ain’t got schit. Lol.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Dr. Rob (Racist troll) was obsessed with Beeech and now he is obsessed with Mistic.
Pathetic!
December 12th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Its snowing out,..Im heading to The Hard Rock in Harveys,..2 for 1 drinks til midnight. Live music…ciao.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Fine old kell,..you dont want them they will get used by someone else,…enjoy the game on the radio,..later peeps.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
This is going to be a great off-season. Football is just entertainment for the masses, but for Reggie McKenzie it is do or die.
I am rooting for him. His reputation and future is on the line. High drama, god help me but I love it so.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
The Niners will fill every seat for every game,..nothing but people with money down there…
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True. But they are going to be filled with corporate types that don’t give a fook about what is going on down on the field. Like at Super Bowl games where 75% of the attendees have never even been to a high school football game and all the real fans are at the very top of the third deck.
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So Whiner games will be filled with clueless fans. This is different than this and past seasons how?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Raider (since 1967)
★★★★★★★
RAIDERNATION the nfl is boring. Face it ,is not the same when
Oakland is not there. We need the Bad guy in the movie .
Hope Reggie and Mark can give us the big bang soon.
Knapp and Tarver out, Al Saunder is in. Happy New Year 2013 !
December 12th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
“Allen said he expected Terrelle Pryor to play against Kansas City. Pryor has been active and had a set of plays to run in each of the last two games but hasn’t played.”
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This tells me that when pryor enters the game he will be in shotgun and run a simple zone read. Everyone in the stadium will know whats coming.
Knapp will fail to utilize any motion or boot action play fakes to allow pryor to throw the ball over the top of the defense which will no doubt stack the box and sell out for the run as soon as they no. 6.
Knapp will fail to set up the zone read with anything leading up to pryors debut.
This will drastically impact the effectiveness of knapps play call.
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Hedging your bets? Getting nervous and frontloading your excuses?
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My thoughts exactly. Proactive excuses and blame placed anywhere but on the shoulders of the guy that will be most responsible for his own success — or lack thereof.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
3-4 D next year. Reggie needs to maneuver to get 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds.
draft order: DE, NT, CB, MLB, OLB
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I’ve seen several people in here that keep presuming that the Raiders move to the 3-4. The tone is often that it would be an improvement over the 4-3 — putting aside the fact that this personnel can’t run either system effectively. What I’ve yet to see is a single justification why people think moving to 3-4 has to happen.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Pretty sad when all there is to look forard to is the off seasons, in hope the regular season might turn out better than this last one.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
immaculate conception next week…lol
December 12th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Huge game for D0A.
BLOWOUT—-> Gone.
Close game (even a loss) AND he plays TP6 Bergstrom Chekwa Stewart extensively, D0A stays on 2013 life support.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Pretty sad when all there is to look forard to is the off seasons, in hope the regular season might turn out better than this last one.
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Expect more of the same. This is a full rebuild, friends. Reggie thought we could compete this year so I’m still not sure what that’s about. Coaching failure? Serious underestimation of talent? Whatever. I don’t see next year being much better at all. Get used to the cellar.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Huge game for D0A.
BLOWOUT—-> Gone.
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Think so? Or is Reggie’s hand-picked coach safe for another year regardless?
I ask because people have been saying this for the past 3 games.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Well, if Goodell expands the amount of playoff teams, we should be able to have a chance with a 6-10, 7-9 record. Maybe even 5-11?? lol
Didn’t Seattle make it to the playoffs once with a 7-9 record?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Zymurgy,
I’m not necessarily about 3-4over 4-3 in general. But I think Houston and Shaughnessy are better suited as 3-4DEs. Neither is quick enough to excel as a 4-3 DE. Neither is probably quite big enough to play DT in a 4-3. I also think Bryant is capable of playing either DE or NT in a 3-4. So I think it gives us 3 key pieces in place for that system.
As for the LBs, we’d need to get two, plus re-sign Wheeler. I’d probably go with Larry Grant from SF for an ILB spot and Anthony Spencer from Dallas at OLB. To me that’s a pretty good front 7. Still need a speed rusher off the edge, but I’m not crazy about any of the guys at the top of the draft.
Personally, as far as the draft, I’d try to trade down to mid 1st if possible. If there are no takers, I’d go after the LT from A&M or Star Loutelelei from Utah, who could be NT in a 3-4.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
So sad when teams are getting ready for the Super Bowl and we are getting out the toilet paper for the Toilet Bowl. You know that’s right. This game is going to be a stinker. And we might not even win. How much pain and misery is that. I’ll tell you how much. It’s a world of hurt. That’s right. Raiders used to put the hurt on opponents but now they put the hurt on me. The fans. So sad. Woe has become this team. Misery and sorrow.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TrySome,
Mark may make that decision for Big Reg.
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
raiders will beat the queefs even if Charles runs for 200 yards. Dennis Allen will be back and we’ll get to see what he can do with more draft picks an FAs to work with. better find a leader for that “defense”.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
135.KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
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Didn’t know he was playing this Sunday. Will he start or is he coming off the bench to spell Charles and Hillis?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TrySome,
Mark may make that decision for Big Reg.
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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I like what you speak of.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TrySome,
Mark may make that decision for Big Reg.
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
>> this is the only game i just don’t see the raiders losing.brady quinn? palmer will light them up for 350+. might actually run the ball too. Queefs are REALLY bad and if the Raiders find a way to lose THIS game you know they are thinking draft position.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
edward teach Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
135.KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
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Didn’t know he was playing this Sunday. Will he start or is he coming off the bench to spell Charles and Hillis?
>> you shouldn’t make fun of mentally disabled people
December 12th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
3-4 D next year. Reggie needs to maneuver to get 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds.
draft order: DE, NT, CB, MLB, OLB
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I’ve seen several people in here that keep presuming that the Raiders move to the 3-4. The tone is often that it would be an improvement over the 4-3 — putting aside the fact that this personnel can’t run either system effectively. What I’ve yet to see is a single justification why people think moving to 3-4 has to happen.
> raiders can’t be any worse in a 3-4. AND if they draft ILB MANTI T’eo i could see them switching to a 3-4 and handing keys to the car.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
So McKenzie is asked by a reporter if his team is capable of making the play-offs and he answers in the affirmative. And the experts on here say that makes him incompetent. ????
What would you have said?
December 12th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TrySome,
Mark may make that decision for Big Reg.
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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They will probably lose because DA isn’t confident. Has no swag. Team feeds on the woe and misery. So contagious. To much pain and sorrow to get it up.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
So McKenzie is asked by a reporter if his team is capable of making the play-offs and he answers in the affirmative. And the experts on here say that makes him incompetent. ????
What would you have said?
>> exactly. that dingleberry sandusky44 said that gruden isn’t coming back since he said to raiders fans ON TV that it wasn’t going to happen at a game as he walked the field. what do you expect gruden to say? same thing. lot of air heads on this blog and i hope other teams fans don’t read the idiocy spewing from the dingle berries here
December 12th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Burton Guster Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TrySome,
Mark may make that decision for Big Reg.
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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They will probably lose because DA isn’t confident. Has no swag. Team feeds on the woe and misery. So contagious. To much pain and sorrow to get it up.
>. bill belichick doesn’t have any “swag” either. confidence is shown differently by different people. the coach that throws his headset at the refs might have ZERO confidence and is masking it. would be hard for the raiders to lose this game. they would have have a meltdown. its possible but unlikely
December 12th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
So McKenzie is asked by a reporter if his team is capable of making the play-offs and he answers in the affirmative. And the experts on here say that makes him incompetent. ????
What would you have said?
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Oh, I don’t know. You see, for some reason, Mark was under the impression they could compete this year. Hence his anger earlier in the year, even going as far as airnig out his frustrations to the media. If there is anyone Reggie should be honest with, it should be the owner. Either he was dishonest and purposefully mislead the owner (which I highly doubt) or he truly felt the team could compete.
This is the problem with the argument of “what else do you expect Reggie to say”. Why was the owner so angry? The owner above everyone else should be given reasonable expectations.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hell, forget Pryor, Raiders should start Lechler at QB on Sunday. We need to lose this one. Would be fun to finally see Shane out there in one of his final games as a Raider slinging it around for a full 60.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Nice win for the Warriors.. they ballin right now. Beat the heat. Nice past few months for bay area teams.
Niners, Giants, Oakland A’s, Golden state (oakland ) warriors…
the raiders! OH WAIT… they cant even take notes. horrible raiders
December 12th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
It was reggies fault he said playoffs and didnt manage expectations.
First part of being a leader is managing your clients (fans) expectations.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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Anyone who makes a comment like this should crawl into a corner,curl into the fetal position and renounce your claim that you are a Raider fan.Disliking the coaches or the players is one thing.Hoping we lose to the Squaws is unacceptable.i really can’t understand you young followers of the Raiders.No way you should consider yourselves diehard fans.Sorry,but that is the truth.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Reggie Miller@ReggieMillerTNT
Mark Jackson has the GS Warriors ROLLING!!!! Young guns just having fun…..
Incarcerated Bob@incarceratedbob
Don’t look now but the Golden State Warriors are the 2nd best team in the state of California #Clippers number 1 #Thinkonit
when are the good RAIDER TWEETS COMING!?!?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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Anyone who makes a comment like this should crawl into a corner,curl into the fetal position and renounce your claim that you are a Raider fan.Disliking the coaches or the players is one thing.Hoping we lose to the Squaws is unacceptable.i really can’t understand you young followers of the Raiders.No way you should consider yourselves diehard fans.Sorry,but that is the truth.
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I must admit that no matter how angry I get or how much desire I have for a better draft pick, come Sunday I just cannot root for a defeat. So I have to agree, Left.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Burris misses a lot of tackles and is also bad in coverage as well… But like you said, he gets an A for effort. Hes a good band aid but not some one to build around.
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He CAN be a solid player but difference maker? no. That’s why it was so frustrating to see them cut DVD & Barksdale after just one season & sign Bartell/Lee who get cut & Willie Smith(who should be cut). At least give these guys a chance to show if they can play.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Skip Bayless@RealSkipBayless
LeBron misses tying buzzer jumper, Warriors win 5th straight on road despite Heat D shutting down my guy Steph. Mark Jackson, early C of Y.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
LOL. Dude if Palmer went 17 of 30 for 136 yards and 0 TDs you would try to have him stoned in the town square. Pryor does it… and it’s suddenly ‘outstanding’
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I found that amusing too.
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palmer has 10 plus years in the nfl, he should be be held to a much much higher standard than a 23 year old that is only seeing playing time for the first time in the nfl.
Dont you agree?
would any of you hold jake locker to the same standard as philip rivers?
let me answer ….no you wouldnt
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Palmer should be held to a higher standard for being a 10 year veteran. He should be light years above Andrew Luck, RGIII, Russell Wilson and Cam Newton. Carson has not grown with his years in the NFL.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
The Warriors were one of the worst teams in the NBA last year, with a rookie head coach.
They revamped the roster and gave the coach more time to implement his system. They are now playing like a playoff team.
Just saying.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
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Schottenheimer came there in 1989 and made it his life goal to beat us. From 89-92, he went 6-2 against us including 2-0 in 90 when we won the division. They got better & we got worse. Luckily for us, beating us was more important to Marty than getting ready for playoff games. Needless to say, I don’t think Marcus was the deciding factor in any of those games as they had a top 10 defense on an annual basis.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Raiders quick notes Some post practice and locker room notes before moving on to the print product . . . [...]
December 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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Anyone who makes a comment like this should crawl into a corner,curl into the fetal position and renounce your claim that you are a Raider fan.Disliking the coaches or the players is one thing.Hoping we lose to the Squaws is unacceptable.i really can’t understand you young followers of the Raiders.No way you should consider yourselves diehard fans.Sorry,but that is the truth.
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The truth is some of you people lack logic and common sense.
Great we are 4-12 and not 3-13?!?! Who cares?
I want the highest pick so we can draft an impact player or we can trade the pick. Higher pick = better options.
It’s not rocket science.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
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Anyone who makes a comment like this should crawl into a corner,curl into the fetal position and renounce your claim that you are a Raider fan.Disliking the coaches or the players is one thing.Hoping we lose to the Squaws is unacceptable.i really can’t understand you young followers of the Raiders.No way you should consider yourselves diehard fans.Sorry,but that is the truth.
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These woeful Raiders today are nowhere near the Raiders of lore. I can understand wanting to lose because it may speed up the firing commencement. Not saying I support the comment, but I can understand it. To much woe and suffering does that. It’s very real if your a real fan. So much pain scrambles the brain. We are in a world of pain and misery. All is fair in love and war. Bring on the pain.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I didn’t see Mark Davis being angry. He was doing a PR piece to make the fans feel he was on their side. Trying to sell tickets. Not a big deal, business as usual.
Then it morphs into the idiots saying “this means Gruden is coming back”.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
So McKenzie is asked by a reporter if his team is capable of making the play-offs and he answers in the affirmative. And the experts on here say that makes him incompetent. ????
What would you have said?
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Oh, I don’t know. You see, for some reason, Mark was under the impression they could compete this year. Hence his anger earlier in the year, even going as far as airnig out his frustrations to the media. If there is anyone Reggie should be honest with, it should be the owner. Either he was dishonest and purposefully mislead the owner (which I highly doubt) or he truly felt the team could compete.
This is the problem with the argument of “what else do you expect Reggie to say”. Why was the owner so angry? The owner above everyone else should be given reasonable expectations.
>. the owner is mad because of the blowouts. Raiders WERE capable of competing in this crappy division before we all saw that manning was good. going into the season the Raiders were a reasonable pick to win the west. what else would expect Rm to say? nobody was thinking rebuild at THAT time, just the defense
December 12th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Lefty, in the past I would’ve always agreed with ur sentiment 100%, but I’m so disgusted with the new regime and what they’re turning the Raiders into that I want these posers out of here ASAP. The only hope for expediting that is to lose and lose badly. Finishing the season on a nine-game losing streak with a home loss to the Chiefs may be necessary to make that happen.
At this point, I’ll take short term losses for long-term gains.
Besides, beating a terrible Chiefs team at this point in the season is completely meaningless and nothing for the Raiders or it’s fans to feel proud about.
Yup. This is what it’s come to. I am a diehard fan and I hope we lose. I really do. And the voice of the Raiders Greg Papa is on the air calling the Raiders irrelevant and wanting to talk Niners football instead.
Awful.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
“McClain is back on the field.” More proof, as if there wasn’t enough already, that this coaching staff have no balls whatsoever. McClain is a horrible teammate and and even worse linebacker. Cut him
December 12th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Wow Warriors getting national love ??
ESPN@espn twitter.
They. Are. Warriors
December 12th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
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Schottenheimer came there in 1989 and made it his life goal to beat us. From 89-92, he went 6-2 against us including 2-0 in 90 when we won the division. They got better & we got worse. Luckily for us, beating us was more important to Marty than getting ready for playoff games. Needless to say, I don’t think Marcus was the deciding factor in any of those games as they had a top 10 defense on an annual basis.
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Marcus ran for a 132 yds against the Raiders in their final LA game, and eliminated them from the playoffs.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
4 & 12 is just as painfully ugly as 3 & 13. Makes sense to be 3 & 13 at this point. Misery loves company. Why not dominate futility. Need to hit rock bottom so we can see the light of up. So much pain and woe. So sad.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
LOL. Dude if Palmer went 17 of 30 for 136 yards and 0 TDs you would try to have him stoned in the town square. Pryor does it… and it’s suddenly ‘outstanding’
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I found that amusing too.
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palmer has 10 plus years in the nfl, he should be be held to a much much higher standard than a 23 year old that is only seeing playing time for the first time in the nfl.
Dont you agree?
would any of you hold jake locker to the same standard as philip rivers?
let me answer ….no you wouldnt
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Palmer should be held to a higher standard for being a 10 year veteran. He should be light years above Andrew Luck, RGIII, Russell Wilson and Cam Newton. Carson has not grown with his years in the NFL.
>. veteran or not when you lack talent and scheme you look worse. i don;t know what you REALLY expect from a QB when he has no Rbs or defense. WRS have been crap too.palmer is the least of the problems here
December 12th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Lefty, in the past I would’ve always agreed with ur sentiment 100%, but I’m so disgusted with the new regime and what they’re turning the Raiders into that I want these posers out of here ASAP. The only hope for expediting that is to lose and lose badly. Finishing the season on a nine-game losing streak with a home loss to the Chiefs may be necessary to make that happen.
At this point, I’ll take short term losses for long-term gains.
Besides, beating a terrible Chiefs team at this point in the season is completely meaningless and nothing for the Raiders or it’s fans to feel proud about.
Yup. This is what it’s come to. I am a diehard fan and I hope we lose. I really do. And the voice of the Raiders Greg Papa is on the air calling the Raiders irrelevant and wanting to talk Niners football instead.
Awful.
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I agree, the only good that can come with beating the Chiefs is that we will improve the overall record against them, but at the cost of NOT firing Allen? No thanks.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
2-14 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
“McClain is back on the field.” More proof, as if there wasn’t enough already, that this coaching staff have no balls whatsoever. McClain is a horrible teammate and and even worse linebacker. Cut him
>> he’ll be gone after the season ends.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Who on Earth cares what Greg Papa thinks?
He can praise the team, he can slam the team. Who CARES? He’s a freaking ANNOUNCER, and not even a very good one at that.
The guy isn’t even fit to bring Bill King his coffee, and if you disagree it’s because you never heard Bill King call Raider games.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
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Schottenheimer came there in 1989 and made it his life goal to beat us. From 89-92, he went 6-2 against us including 2-0 in 90 when we won the division. They got better & we got worse. Luckily for us, beating us was more important to Marty than getting ready for playoff games. Needless to say, I don’t think Marcus was the deciding factor in any of those games as they had a top 10 defense on an annual basis.
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Marcus ran for a 132 yds against the Raiders in their final LA game, and eliminated them from the playoffs.
>> and that is relevant in what way
December 12th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
No one said lets suck for luck last year, but we 3-10 so what the point of winning a few (being generous) more games that will have no positive impact on the team and will hurt our draft status.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
No wonder this country is in decline, they let idiots vote. @ #211, your assumptions are pure fantasy.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Gruden is the only hope. We have been reduced to this. If your happy with the status quo, fine. I can’t feel your pain. But I’m sick to my stomach over this ugly mess of a disastrous football team. They have brought me nothing but pain. And I got to bear it. Ain’t running from it. You know that’s right.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Marcus Allen 9-1 vs the Raiders. Lol
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Schottenheimer came there in 1989 and made it his life goal to beat us. From 89-92, he went 6-2 against us including 2-0 in 90 when we won the division. They got better & we got worse. Luckily for us, beating us was more important to Marty than getting ready for playoff games. Needless to say, I don’t think Marcus was the deciding factor in any of those games as they had a top 10 defense on an annual basis.
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Marcus ran for a 132 yds against the Raiders in their final LA game, and eliminated them from the playoffs.
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Wow! And he finished that year with 709 yards that year? Good for 23rd in the league. Even Harvey Williams had more rushing yards than him. Like I said, the Chiefs won WITH Defense all those years. I should know I had to deal with all those bandwagoners those years…BTW, that game was over when Hoss threw that pick 6 right before half.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
No wonder this country is in decline, they let idiots vote. @ #211, your assumptions are pure fantasy.
>. just call me an idiot directly don’t be a little girl about it. AFC west was crap and the Raiders had talent on offense. lot of people thought they had a chance at a division that didn’t field a winning team in 2011. and your contribution is worth about 2 cents, good screenname
December 12th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Agree with #224 too.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Marcus ran for a 132 yds against the Raiders in their final LA game, and eliminated them from the playoffs.
>> and that is relevant in what way
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It’s relevant, because in your post #206, you said Marcus wasn’t a deciding factor in his 9-1 record vs the Raiders, dumbass.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Marcus ran for a 132 yds against the Raiders in their final LA game, and eliminated them from the playoffs.
>> and that is relevant in what way
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It’s relevant, because in your post #206, you said Marcus wasn’t a deciding factor in his 9-1 record vs the Raiders, dumbass.
>. no i just said that you were mentally disabled and you just proved my point.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Manassamauler, you are an idiot.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Edward Teach Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Who on Earth cares what Greg Papa thinks?
He can praise the team, he can slam the team. Who CARES? He’s a freaking ANNOUNCER, and not even a very good one at that.
The guy isn’t even fit to bring Bill King his coffee, and if you disagree it’s because you never heard Bill King call Raider games.
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I care because he bleeds silver & black like me. He also has the luxury of being around this team much more than any of the mediots. He may not be Bill King but he’s still a stud & at least he cares about us winning.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Manassamauler, you are an idiot.
>. do you feel better big man? still Raiders had a good offense in a BAD division. they were considered afc west contenders before preseason. go read some date articles if you disagree.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Teach,
I just find it very telling that Papa, a Raiders homer, would go that far and show that much disdain for the team. Maybe it’s because he is a homer and a fan of the team and therefore so disgusted like the rest of us he’s just lashing out.
I hope Mark is tuned into the pulse of the Nation right now.
Someone posted on here after the Donks game that they saw Mark walking thru the stadium and he looked awfully PIZZED with fans mercilessly yelling at him about the team and to bring back Gruden.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
LOL Twocents.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
LOL Twocents.
>. nosense is getting his d*ck hard talking trash here
December 12th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Marcus ran for a 132 yds against the Raiders in their final LA game, and eliminated them from the playoffs.
>> and that is relevant in what way
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It’s relevant, because in your post #206, you said Marcus wasn’t a deciding factor in his 9-1 record vs the Raiders, dumbs.
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And those yards came while they were nursing a 14-3 lead and just had to rely on their great defense. He carried 33 times to get all those yards. It’s not impressive. If BO ever had 33 carries in a game he might touch 400 yards.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
I don’t want Gruden back, but he is better than DA, Hue, Cable, Kittin, and the rest of the monkeys we hired after him?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Teach,
I just find it very telling that Papa, a Raiders homer, would go that far and show that much disdain for the team. Maybe it’s because he is a homer and a fan of the team and therefore so disgusted like the rest of us he’s just lashing out.
I hope Mark is tuned into the pulse of the Nation right now.
Someone posted on here after the Donks game that they saw Mark walking thru the stadium and he looked awfully PIZZED with fans mercilessly yelling at him about the team and to bring back Gruden
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I remember that post too. I hope Mark is feeling our anxiety right now…and I pray Reggie is feeling it too and acts on his mistake. That will go a long ways in me believing in Chubby Checker.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
LOL Twocents.
>. nosense is getting his d*ck hard talking trash here
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You told him to call you an idiot.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
I don’t want Gruden back, but he is better than DA, Hue, Cable, Kittin, and the rest of the monkeys we hired after him?
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IMO Hue could have been just as good. But Gruden, Hue, Shaw, Del Rio, Kelly, the Giants DC, jesus just give me someone the players will buy into.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Well, now we know where the Manassamauler is coming from.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
LOL Twocents.
>. nosense is getting his d*ck hard talking trash here
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You told him to call you an idiot.
>. i guess you didn’t read his post before that. but nonsense is like a lot of fans. he makes no football arguments and just gets emotional on his little keyboard
December 12th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Teach,
I just find it very telling that Papa, a Raiders homer, would go that far and show that much disdain for the team. Maybe it’s because he is a homer and a fan of the team and therefore so disgusted like the rest of us he’s just lashing out.
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Or he’s not coming back and he’s pissed about it.
Either way, he’s an announcer. It’s his job to report on the team, not go on tirades about how much he thinks things suck. That’s for the fans to do. He’s a paid professional and needs to start acting like it.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
And those yards came while they were nursing a 14-3 lead and just had to rely on their great defense. He carried 33 times to get all those yards. It’s not impressive. If BO ever had 33 carries in a game he might touch 400 yards.
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Well he lead KC in rushing those 4 years, while going 9-1 against the Raiders.
Now spin that whichever way your mind will accept. Later.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Hue lost 4 of the last 5 games when we were playing for the POs. I don’t want to hear how good he was.
Dude had time to get his nails done but not enough time to fix the defense, fix our penalties, and score in the 2nd half to win ONE more game?!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
the things that you guys are missing is that there is a requirement to have another destination to have both show interest ie Dublin instead of Santa Clara! There is much more to the collusium development than just the stadium and it’s the NFL not MLB that has shown support of the Raiders! There is still the matter of Territorial Rights to San Jose opposed by S.F. Giants! Don’t get the two confused! Oriacle wants Warriors to relocate to S.F. as well. So wait to see what MLB says before you go telling the NFL what to do! Same as L.A. Commish said frankly he wanted Raiders to Remain in it’s Market Oakland. Land has already been purchased around Stadium. Thats what the talk was about the redevelopment funds! Do your home work and stop putting out pipe dreams.No L.A. and no moving in with Niners!it is what it is!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Well, now we know where the Manassamauler is coming from.
> he tough guy, you’re the one lashing out and not responding to football arguments. plenty of DATED articles talking of oak being afc west contenders. what would have happened if OAK won the division? oh yeah they would have made the playoffs. raiders were a dark horse pick for the west by SOME people so Rm didn’t make any kind of crazy statement.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I bet my keyboard is just as big as yours.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Right now I believe in Chubby Checker about as much as I do the Easter Bunny.
Chubby might as well do the twist all the way back to Green Bay for all I care.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I bet my keyboard is just as big as yours.
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LOL
December 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Right now I believe in Chubby Checker about as much as I do the Easter Bunny.
Chubby might as well do the twist all the way back to Green Bay for all I care.
>. Rm was a success in green bay. we all know that. he’ll get it right. will take 3 years though.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I bet my keyboard is just as big as yours.
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LOL
>> nonsense otherwise known as raider 0
December 12th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
And those yards came while they were nursing a 14-3 lead and just had to rely on their great defense. He carried 33 times to get all those yards. It’s not impressive. If BO ever had 33 carries in a game he might touch 400 yards.
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Well he lead KC in rushing those 4 years, while going 9-1 against the Raiders.
Now spin that whichever way your mind will accept. Later.
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He led them in rushing cuz he was their best RB. Was he among the best in the league in any of those Queef years? Puhhhhhhlease… Like I said, the Chiefs won with defense and they were beating us LONG before Marcus got there.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
The raiders have zero to talk about. Crappy coaches
December 12th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Teach,
I just find it very telling that Papa, a Raiders homer, would go that far and show that much disdain for the team. Maybe it’s because he is a homer and a fan of the team and therefore so disgusted like the rest of us he’s just lashing out.
I hope Mark is tuned into the pulse of the Nation right now.
Someone posted on here after the Donks game that they saw Mark walking thru the stadium and he looked awfully PIZZED with fans mercilessly yelling at him about the team and to bring back Gruden.
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I hope mark was so pissed off he was pissing fire.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Right now I believe in Chubby Checker about as much as I do the Easter Bunny.
Chubby might as well do the twist all the way back to Green Bay for all I care.
>. Rm was a success in green bay. we all know that. he’ll get it right. will take 3 years though.
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RM wasn’t the GM so how did you judge his employment there?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Manassamauler = nonsense
Get a life troll.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RM wasn’t the GM so how did you judge his employment there
>. rose up through the ranks and became director of football operations in one of the most storied and successful sports franchisees in american history. RM has the resume and will succeed here. i have no reason to believe otherwise. dennis allen is a ?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Manassamauler = nonsense
Get a life troll.
> you can attempt to refute my points and embarrass yourself further at any time. proceed
December 12th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RM was Director of Personnel for a winning, Super Bowl winning team. Paid his dues to Hall of Famer Personnel man Ron Wolf.
That’s waaaaay more cred than anybody has in here.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
If you’ve already won your division and maybe homefield and a bye, of course you rest your banged up players and take it easy on your money players and gear up for the playoffs.
If you’ve been mathematically eliminated, of course you take a look at your younger players, backups, and take it easy on your money players, too.
That said, you never, ever, play to lose or coach with that in mind, particularly against your division or other noted rivals.
Say we lay down against AFC team X and stop another AFC West team from getting in. We don’t do that. Neither do they to stop us from getting in. I’ve been watching since ‘79 and the situation has arisen many times and I can’t say I’ve seen it happen in our division except maybe once, and there were other factors at play there also.
In the old days I played in lots of year long pools picking every game every week which is great for getting to know the NFL. I got burnt playing that theory many times at the end of the season. Teams with nothing to gain, draft position to lose and a hated rival maybe getting to the show still come out gangbusters. That is how you play the game. That is sportsmanship. I would be ashamed to be a fan of a team that played to lose.
Can you see the HC going up to Al Davis and saying “You know, Al, if we tank the next three games, we could draft the next Lawrence Taylor”. Think he’s coaching for Al the next year?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RM was Director of Personnel for a winning, Super Bowl winning team. Paid his dues to Hall of Famer Personnel man Ron Wolf.
That’s waaaaay more cred than anybody has in here.
>. holy sh*t. you just made sense. Rm has impeccable credentials and is qualified. I agree completely. he’ll turn this around soon. Dennis Allen is the question mark
December 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Be careful Raider O, he has a large keyboard.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Be careful Raider O, he has a large keyboard.
\>> do you talk to yourself in public to?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
It’s hilarious to watch Marcus & Wolf say Al had a problem with Marcus being bigger than the Raiders. Then why was Bo here? He was BIGGER than Michael Jordan in the late 1980’s…Like I said, hilarious!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RM is a rookie GM with no previous success at that position. Just because someone is a good OC, it doesn’t mean he is going to be a successful HC. Norv!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Something else I would like to mention! Why do the Raiders have so many fans around the country as well as Over seas in places like Germany and England and so forth? The Fans! Everybody try’s to “undercover” copy us with Nation and Black Jerseys, Face Paint, get ups! How many of you know thats why teams have Black Jerseys and dark colored uniforms? Because they were selling so well for the Raiders and it transitioned to other sports even A’s! In the past ownership responded to Fans that’s what make them money! Not fans at home! can’t see them! It’s the truth!Go Raiders!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Purvisman,
I don’t think anyone expects the Raiders to take a dive.
Some of us just believe it’s better for the team in the long term if DA just continues to do what he does best.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Twocents,
Maybe they have something to help us enlarge our keyboards.
It’s not fair!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RM is a rookie GM with no previous success at that position. Just because someone is a good OC, it doesn’t mean he is going to be a successful HC. Norv!
>. look at his resume in Green bay and then come back and tell me he’s not qualified.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Marcus effected AL in other ways and in his conduct off the field!
December 12th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Twocents,
Maybe they have something to help us enlarge our keyboards.
It’s not fair!
>> so IBA lets you log in to multiple accounts with the same browser? good to know
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RM is a rookie GM with no previous success at that position. Just because someone is a good OC, it doesn’t mean he is going to be a successful HC. Norv!
>. look at his resume in Green bay and then come back and tell me he’s not qualified.
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Not qualified?!?! WTF are you talking about? Who said he wasn’t qualified.
Btw, I’m starting to think Twocents was right about you. You are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
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Did you predict the blowouts?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I am envious, with a large keyboard you can rule the world.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Let me get this straight RETARD. You think me and Twocents are the same person and you continue to debate with both of us?
LMAO
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
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Did you predict the blowouts?
>. did you predict getting blown by by NE, green bay and Miami last year?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
“I don’t know what I did”
You whined about playing FB. You held out for more $. You held out in training camp in 91 and then got injured. You snorted coke with OJ and nailed his wife. You did do some things.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Let me get this straight RETARD. You think me and Twocents are the same person and you continue to debate with both of us?
LMAO
>. will you try to refute my football points or is this a self esteem building exercise for you?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Be careful Raider O, he has a large keyboard.
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Need to compensate for that small brain.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Let me get this straight RETARD. You think me and Twocents are the same person and you continue to debate with both of us?
LMAO
>> well, either you are the same person or raider 0 is your lap dog.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
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Did you predict the blowouts?
>. did you predict getting blown by by NE, green bay and Miami last year?
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No but of this teams you mentioned didn’t Green Bay have a 15-1 record and NE was the AFC champion? It’s more tolerable than getting canned by the likes of the Bungholes, Saints, Bucs, etc.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Be careful Raider O, he has a large keyboard.
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Need to compensate for that small brain.
> do you even watch football?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
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You’re assmuing i’m being a smart alek. I’m asking what you mean by “get it right”? Does that mean playoffs? Super Bowl? or do u think it will take 3 yr’s just for a winning record?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Chubby Checker is qualified on paper. DA is not.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raider O and I can’t be the same person, we have been known to argue about accounting. Look it up.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
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Did you predict the blowouts?
>. did you predict getting blown by by NE, green bay and Miami last year?
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No but of this teams you mentioned didn’t Green Bay have a 15-1 record and NE was the AFC champion? It’s more tolerable than getting canned by the likes of the Bungholes, Saints, Bucs, etc.
>> i see no difference. getting blown out by bad teams is a wake up call. it was easy to buy the hype. but OAK got smashed by good teams constantly. I knew they were average at best.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raider O and I can’t be the same person, we have been known to argue about accounting. Look it up.
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It wasn’t accounting. It was bookkeeping.
lol
December 12th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
I stand corrected, as usual.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Hypothetically speaking, if The Raiders end up 6-10, Hue would have only won 2 games more than Dennis The Menace.
Of course it hasn’t occured but if it does, how much better is Hue really? It’s all about wins at the end of the day.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
3 yr’s to get it right?
What does “get it right” mean?
Winning record, playoffs…Super Bowl?
>. it means purging the deadweight and competing for the division year in year out at a minimum. what did you expect RM to be able to do this year? i picked OAK to finish 7-9 and i was OFF.
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You’re assmuing i’m being a smart alek. I’m asking what you mean by “get it right”? Does that mean playoffs? Super Bowl? or do u think it will take 3 yr’s just for a winning record?
>. getting it right means to be a contender. at minumum a division title contender. thats the minimum standard. and i think if the offense can run the ball well they could threaten a winning record NEXT year.combine that with a defense oriented draft and we COULD be looking at a winning team. Offense has been the biggest failure. we all knew the D was soft but the offense failed.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
It’s hilarious to watch Marcus & Wolf say Al had a problem with Marcus being bigger than the Raiders.
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I think we know what the “problems” were.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
>> i see no difference. getting blown out by bad teams is a wake up call. it was easy to buy the hype. but OAK got smashed by good teams constantly. I knew they were average at best.
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You see no difference between an 8-8 team and this squad? You see no difference in getting beat by 2 scores by sub .500 teams? What about Houston, Detroit last year? did we get destroyed?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
You think Al had people watching Allen like he did with Marinovich?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Twocents Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raider O and I can’t be the same person, we have been known to argue about accounting. Look it up.
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It wasn’t accounting. It was bookkeeping.
lol
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I kind of remember that. It was one of the great offseason blog battles if i’m not mistaken.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
A football life, Marcus Allen is on again at 10pm.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Comment 220-Middle of December and this is the best comment of the year-it won’t be beat this year or next.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
>> i see no difference. getting blown out by bad teams is a wake up call. it was easy to buy the hype. but OAK got smashed by good teams constantly. I knew they were average at best.
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You see no difference between an 8-8 team and this squad? You see no difference in getting beat by 2 scores by sub .500 teams? What about Houston, Detroit last year? did we get destroyed?
>. tougher schedule this year too. detroit loss was most embarrasing. up 27-14 4th quarter 8 minutes to go. biggest chokejob in years. raiders did beat the texans and that was the superbowl right there. the defense sucked, the offense last year put 21 PPG WOOOOOO and the penalties were bad. raiders sucked last year too. softer schedule hid it
December 12th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
I made some technical blunder and Raider O hounded me for weeks.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Salam Habibi!
December 12th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Daniel Petrocelli, knew what “problems” marcus and OJ had.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
fvck that puto reggie mckenzie…
December 12th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Manassa,
Thx. The reason i asked what your definiton of “get it right” is there’s always miscommunication when we use terms like “turn this around” etc.
Someone asked if I was nuts to expect a SB run for next year, and it wasn’t at all what I was suggesting.
I think it’s fair to expect that we can have a “turnaround” similar to what the Rams did this yr.
It will mean the Reggie makes a few solid FA pickups and has a good draft though, but there’s so much uncertainty as far as the direction this org is going it’s hard to pinpoint and predict.
I just “expect” we should get better…much better from …THIS.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
I kind of remember that. It was one of the great offseason blog battles if i’m not mistaken.
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I made some technical blunder and Raider O hounded me for weeks.
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LOL
It wasn’t the technical blunder that started the hounding (lol), it was you calling me an elitist and a Gov supporter.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
fvck that puto reggie mckenzie…
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Al Davis is Dead. Wishing Reggie fails will not bring Al back, or erase his horrible record over the last decade, at least. Ok?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I’ve been known to do that.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
All I seek next year is IMPROVEMENT in all 3 phases of the game and COMPETITIVE PLAY. That will make me quite happy!
December 12th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Habibi,
Salam waya Salam ala al Kush. Salam ala al GDP wa ahla salam ala al hasheesh.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Dennis Allen finally decides to play his most talented player after the season is lost.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Lakers legend Magic Johnson thinks D’Antoni is going to have to change the way he uses his other 7-footer.
“What the coach has to do is say I have a certain philosophy but I don’t have the players to play that scheme and that system. But what I do have is two of the best 7-footers in the game,” he said, via USA Today. “When Gasol was on that block, he averaged 18 points. He shot 53%. And he is the best passing big man in the game. But you have him at the free throw line. That makes no sense. That’s not his game. His game is catch it on the low block, face his man and make a move to the cup. He has great moves. I’ve got to adjust my system a little if I’m the coach.”
Good coaches utilize players strentghs to succeed. Pathetic coaches like DA use tired schemes while ignoring the best ways to utilize players talent
December 12th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
ZAXTLY!
u both are right on.
Its why i want 3-13
and this KC game is key.
NO WAY we should lose this..at HOME..vs queefs? please….
that said if D0A DOES get blown out Mark (even Reggie) has to be thinking D0A is over his head.
So with that, brings the only chance we have at getting Gruden. Which, sadly I admit, IS our only real hope of a turnaround anytime in the next 3-5 years.
Reggie can stay on (for now) under that set up. In fact I dont want Gruden to do any GM type activities directly. It was a disaster at TB in that regard.
Gruden is also the only REAL hope at filling eh stadium and getting a stadium deal done. Sad facts but that be where we are folx.
noting will ignite Raider Nation like a Gruden return. And yes, he IS a true leader and WILL get this shat turned around, relatively quickly at that.
Book it.
And yes…I understand this is a BIG TIME LOOONG shot.
However (a pathetic) blowout loss vs a 2-11 KC team at home and finishing it out with 3-13 WILL bring those odds up.
And yep a better draft position to boot.
This season is long gone.
Im looking to salvage the remainder of the decade.
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# manassamauler Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TrySome,
Mark may make that decision for Big Reg.
I actually hope KC comes in and trounces the Raiders on Sunday. Better for draft position. Adds fuel to the possibility of a Gruden return.
>> this is the only game i just don’t see the raiders losing.brady quinn? palmer will light them up for 350+. might actually run the ball too. Queefs are REALLY bad and if the Raiders find a way to lose THIS game you know they are thinking draft position.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Cut down on giving up long runs, blown coverages, create turnovers, more sacks, better special teams coverage, improve our running game and CATCH THE BALL IF IT HITS YOUR HANDS…doesn’t matter what scheme it is.
Also some depth please.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Raider O,
You are smoking Kush mixed with hasheesh and something about the gross domestic product?
My arabic is off the chain!
December 12th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
LOL Habibi!
Grand Daddy Purple,
December 12th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I used to frequent a convenience store where the proprietor always greeted me with “ah, habibi”.
Never knew what it meant.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
I hope we get spanked at home with 9k in attendance!!not worth watching! GOT GRUDEN??
December 12th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
LOL My cousins out in California have told me about that stuff. Luck you!
Habibi is a term of endearment.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Reggie should be let go, just for the staff on his resume!!
December 12th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Habibi : good friend
December 12th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Derek Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Lakers legend Magic Johnson thinks D’Antoni is going to have to change the way he uses his other 7-footer.
“What the coach has to do is say I have a certain philosophy but I don’t have the players to play that scheme and that system. But what I do have is two of the best 7-footers in the game,” he said, via USA Today. “When Gasol was on that block, he averaged 18 points. He shot 53%. And he is the best passing big man in the game. But you have him at the free throw line. That makes no sense. That’s not his game. His game is catch it on the low block, face his man and make a move to the cup. He has great moves. I’ve got to adjust my system a little if I’m the coach.”
Good coaches utilize players strentghs to succeed. Pathetic coaches like DA use tired schemes while ignoring the best ways to utilize players talent
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Yep. So true. But Knapp is also married to a scheme as well. I hope the rest of them wake up.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Reggie should be let go, just for the staff on his resume!!
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DA definitely needs to be let go for picking Knapp but Reggie allowed it. I think Reggie let DA pick “His guys”.
Somebody should have already been FIRED
December 12th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I like it, from now on I will greet people with “ah, habibi”. It just sounds good.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Habibi is a term of endearment.
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Exactly.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Kirk Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Dennis Allen finally decides to play his most talented player after the season is lost.
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I think there was some of conflict or Drama with the TP thing and the finger is pointed at you guessed it Knapp.
Leinart is Knapp’s guy so i’am sure there was some sort of BS with TP being #3 QB playing over Leinart #2. TP should have been #2 QB and on the field doing something on week 1.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Agree! Simply EMBARRASSING!! Wasted season! Let them all go! Who cares!Coaches i mean! Pathetic! Browns and Bengals laughed in our face on the field!!
December 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
All I seek next year is IMPROVEMENT in all 3 phases of the game and COMPETITIVE PLAY. That will make me quite happy!
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Good luck with that. It will take Gruden and a new staff for that. This current status quo is to mired in misery and woe, let alone impotency.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Reggie got questioned why he didnt do something with Seymoure while out 5 weeks
December 12th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
The buck stops at Reggie. Knapp is on him. Gut at least he can throw DA under the bus by saying DA hired his own guy. Maybe Reggie is onto something. Miserable season to say the least.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I’m not expecting a lot next season. We have too many needs, and I don’t think we can fix them all in one off season especially with our cap situation.
-Need 2-3 OL, 1-2 CBs, LB, DT, and a DE.
-We should upgrade our Ss, RBs, and WRs.
-We also need depth.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I don’t see McKenzie settling for the status quo. I think we are going to see some draft day moves that will make Al roll over in his grave.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
So do some of you really believe the players are executing the game plan on defense?
Tarver’s play calls are being executed to perfection by all 11 guys?
You don’t believe Ron Bartell when he says that the players are king their jobs?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Burton Guster
Buck stops at Mark Davis. He’s the gentleman that hired Reggie McKenzie.
December 12th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Wake me up when Gruden comes back!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Hope the stadium is empty Sunday! Mark may call Gruden again
December 12th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
You are going to be asleep for a long time.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
So do some of you really believe the players are executing the game plan on defense?
Tarver’s play calls are being executed to perfection by all 11 guys?
You don’t believe Ron Bartell when he says that the players are king their jobs?
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It’s coaching. Our coaches lack experience and papers. It’s obvious. If they were credible and approved we would not be steeping in this much hurt. Name one coach who is endorsed. Name a coach who has any brains. Can’t do it? Didn’t think so. It’s Gruden or continued misery and woe. You know that’s right.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I’ll take Hue, Gruden, Jimmy Johnson, Cowher, Shottenheimer, Tressman, David Shaw, hell Willie Shaw over DA! The rest of the staff? FIRE AT WILL!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Need 2-3 OL, 1-2 CBs, LB, DT, and a DE.
-We should upgrade our Ss, RBs, and WRs.
-We also need dept
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That’s a lot of needs, O.
All the coaches should be back if the roster has that many holes.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Burton Guster
Crap coaches coaching crap players equals crap on the field.
Players as culpable as the coaches in Oakland.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RaiderDanny
David Shaw is an intriguing option as a head coach.
However, reading an interview with Shaw and the coach says Stanford is his dream job and he wants to leave a legacy there larger than Jim Harbaugh and Bill Walsh.
Don’t think he’s leaving Stanford anytime soon.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
It’s Gruden or continued misery and woe. You know that’s right.
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I “know” we nee a roster upgrade.
Gruden isn’t the only answer to this at all.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
BAD COACHES!!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
It’s not like our drafts got any better with Gruden. It’s just that players bought into what he was selling. You can say that about Hue too, but you could never say that about Tits.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM
December 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Good coaching inspires better performances. Ours inspire pain, hurt and misery. Sadness and sorrow. Woe unto woe is what we have. Our coaches are not from a higher degree of learned. It’s clearly and abundantly obvious.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
There’s no way to predict what we’ll do next yr. cuz so much is gonna happen between now and then.
I’m just speaking on what our overall expectation should be from Reggie and crew.
It should definitely be improving on this miserable record.
How we get there and who will be here to make it happen?
Who knows.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
All the coaches should be back if the roster has that many holes.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
We can keep a few coaches, but Knapp, Hoffman, and the OL coach have to go.
I’m not sold on Tarver, but he is a rookie, our defense lacks talent, so it’s hard to judge him. I rather have a vet DC like Del Rio.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
What areas will Gruden help shore up?
Better tackling?
Better reads by the Safeties?
Would he have motivated 55 to play?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Toilet Bowl game is our current staffs legacy game. Ouch. That hurts.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
So we have a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th rd picks to use?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
End of the season=3weeks
December 12th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I understand the desire to go back to the good old days, but I think that is a mistake. I have confidence in McKenzie, he is going to get it done.
Put me down as all in and if I am wrong just think about how much fun you can have telling me how stupid I am.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Good coaching would put their players first before the scheme. Shannahan, Shurmur & Mike Sullivan do.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
It’s just that players bought into what he was selling. You can say that about Hue too, but you could never say that about Tits.
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Never?
You don’t think the team came outta the bye week inspired? They didn’t look good right up until Palmer’s pick?
Didn’t they win a couple games after that?
Looked pretty inspired in the TB comeback right up until that pick by Palmer.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
What areas will Gruden help shore up?
Better tackling?
Better reads by the Safeties?
Would he have motivated 55 to play?
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Better rear end reaming. Better yelling and screaming and in your face. Better smarts. More Silver and Black in the blood stream. More Raider. You get my point.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
If Gruden brought his brother and Monte Kiffin i think problems will start to disappear! McClain will be tradded for 2 fish tacos from Rubio’s
December 12th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
What areas will Gruden help shore up?
Coaching, getting players to follow your lead
Better tackling?
Seemed to be better when he hired Willie Shaw. It was the #1 D for the first half of 98.
Better reads by the Safeties?
Possibly.
Would he have motivated 55 to play?
I doubt it. He is being held on so they can get a pick for him is my thought.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Good coaching would put their players first before the scheme. Shannahan, Shurmur & Mike Sullivan do.
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’nuff said.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Forgot to say he won’t laugh with an opposing coach after getting his ass kicked.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
nope it is no longer about beating any team on the schedule it is about giving tp the most exposure possible so he may be evaluated
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So, it is now not about the franchise, not about building for the future, not about 60+ guys. It is now all about evaluating one guy that 32 teams passed on. Twice. Pal, you have officially lost your mind.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
McKenzie can stay if he fires the staff!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
The scheme seemed to work fine for everyone except McFadden. Dropped balls, INTs, fumbles, and missed blocks are not scheme related.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
fvck that puto mckenzie…has nothing to do with al…has everything to do with 3-13…and what his plans (or lack of) for this team…
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
It’s just that players bought into what he was selling. You can say that about Hue too, but you could never say that about Tits.
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Never?
You don’t think the team came outta the bye week inspired? They didn’t look good right up until Palmer’s pick?
Didn’t they win a couple games after that?
Looked pretty inspired in the TB comeback right up until that pick by Palmer.
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Not the defense. They were lucky Martin didn’t set the new NFL record for single game rushing yards.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
So we have a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th rd picks to use?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yes
1- DE/ OLB D Moore
3- OT K Long if available or CB Leon McFadden (SDSU)
4- DE Brandon Jenkins if available or RB Michael Dyer (1st round talent with off the field issues)
December 12th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
55 done in Oakland – good riddance. Reggie, hustle a 7th rounder and a bag of cheetos…
December 12th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
You can replace the whole damned roster this off season. Doesn’t mean DA or Knapp or Tarver will be any better coaches. Playcalling probably won’t change.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I want more Gruden Rumors!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
You can replace the whole damn coaching staff this offseason. Doesn’t mean the players will be playing better. The effort probably won’t change.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
You get my point.
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Not sure how that overcomes the lack of talent.
Our FS is starting at CB for the first time EVER.
Matt Giordano is a backup talent who’s been starting for weeks.
Our LB situation is a mess.
Yelling and screaming isn’t going to change those things.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Would David Shaw let Tarver Coach his Defense?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
It’s just that players bought into what he was selling. You can say that about Hue too, but you could never say that about Tits.
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Never?
You don’t think the team came outta the bye week inspired? They didn’t look good right up until Palmer’s pick?
Didn’t they win a couple games after that?
Looked pretty inspired in the TB comeback right up until that pick by Palmer.
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LOL! SO the staff needed 2 weeks as opposed to Atlanta’s one week. Yes, that was the most impressive showing of the season IMO. Like I said, the staff needed 2 weeks to get the team ready to play, of course the staff made the mistake of not letting Seabass attempting that 50 yarder indoors on the 1st drive. 1 of 2 games this year, out of 13, we looked like a credible football team.
You’re right, we won a game, in OT, at home, against the team with the 2nd worse record in football. And we also beat a team with the worst record in football where we needed 4 TO’s from them. Damn impressive.
And yes, the tampa game. Their RB does something that hasn’t been done in 70 years and we only get back into the game due to Carson running the no-huddle.
Yup inspired football this year.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
KoolKell, were you a great salesman when you first started or did you learn something as you gained experience?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RaiderDanny
Perhaps Shaw would. The two worked together at Stanford.
More than likely, Shaw would like to bring in his ‘own guy’. Much like any other head coach would do when brought into an organization.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
The scheme seemed to work fine for everyone except McFadden. Dropped balls, INTs, fumbles, and missed blocks are not scheme related.
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Sure dude, DHB went from productive and Moore was looking like a steal until Knapp got here. I don’t why anyone can defend Knapp after looking at his entire career.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
All the coaches should be back if the roster has that many holes.
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We can keep a few coaches, but Knapp, Hoffman, and the OL coach have to go.
I’m not sold on Tarver, but he is a rookie, our defense lacks talent, so it’s hard to judge him. I rather have a vet DC like Del Rio.
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Agreed
December 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
DA perfect for bottoming out – Reggie’s plan right on target. Next year same thing. Build the roster with young talent, Gruden might return .. in 2015. Actually kind of makes sense.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I got MarcusAllen, Tim Brown, Lester Hays, Casper, Hendricks, Townsend,Martin autographed and tattoo’de on my arm, but i HATE the Raiders right now!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
If I were McKenzie, which I wish I was because I would make a poll and just draft what the blog says muahahaha…lol j.k
I would trade out of the first rd and acquire as many picks as possible. A #2,3 and a 6th?
So a #2, 2-#3’s, 4th, *5th, 6th and a 7th. If Mcclain yields a 5th in a trade?
Plenty of picks to work with and it leaves some cap to work with for free agents?
Will you guys fire me for that? LOL
December 12th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag
Not defending Knapp at all. He’s as horrible as the effort D-Moore and DHB have put in.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Yup inspired football this year.
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I thought we were talking about “never”?
No one said tactically efficient wins, genius play calling, or anything like that. Whatever the reasons, there were plenty of times when the team was playing hard and playing to win.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
You can have all the talent you want, but Knapp’s going to throw it under the sticks.?!?!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
I don’t why anyone can defend Knapp after looking at his entire career.
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Who’s defending Knapp. I’ve said 1000 times Knapp needs to be fired as a play caller.
ZBS only pertains to running plays. Only person who has had a problem running in the ZBS scheme is McFadden. Personally, I think he lost a half step after all the injuries.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
We need JESUS!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Kell,
Why don’t you blame the QB for throwing it short of the sticks?
There are 3 other receivers out in the pattern.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
I am really tired of the losing, but do we really want this team to win when we could get a higher draft pick?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
If I were McKenzie, which I wish I was because I would make a poll and just draft what the blog says muahahaha…lol j.k
I would trade out of the first rd and acquire as many picks as possible. A #2,3 and a 6th?
So a #2, 2-#3’s, 4th, *5th, 6th and a 7th. If Mcclain yields a 5th in a trade?
Plenty of picks to work with and it leaves some cap to work with for free agents?
Will you guys fire me for that? LOL
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Eff yeah! lol
You want to trade our top 5 pick for a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th?
WTF are you smoking? You don’t need GDP. lol
December 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
J Hill
McFadden’s problem seems to be lack of patience. He turns on the after burners as soon as he is given the hand-off and more often than not dude runs right into one of his own lineman.
Former o-line coach Boby Wylie said as much. ZBS is about patience, read-react. He said DMC is too fast for that system.
Remember that career-long run DMC had against the Jets? It was single-back formation and he was supposed to go up the middle.
Instead, DMC sprinted to his left and out-ran the Jets D.
I remember seeing Justin Fargas do the same thing. Run fast and hard toward the line of scrimmage and hope you break into to daylight.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Is it bad when a professional Football player looks on the field like he never seen a football before??? Thats the 2012 Oakland Raiders!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
YOUR FIRED!!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Trade completely outta the 1st????
FIRED!!!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
If we can sign Anthony Spencer with that money that we could have spend on a top 5 pick?
Sad thing is, I haven’t smoked! =( LOL
Send me some GDP, i’ll have a better scenario next time! haha
December 12th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
MiamiRaider78
McKenzie said he “likes his picks” so while I do see him trading down in the first round, I don’t see him completely trading out of it.
Gaining much more ammunition to land “impact” players in the draft is indeed the way to go. (I put quote marks around impact because the draft is a crapshoot, at best).
Making a deal to get a second rounder would be nice, but, that would most likely involve trading away a player like McFadden.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Oh well
December 12th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Think the team would’ve won more games with Winston Moss? I suppose without Knapp it would be addition by subtraction.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
JUST LOSE BABY!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I agree that DMac simply lacks patience. I think that’s on him.
He showed a lot of patience in the ATL game, but went right ack to his old ways shortly after..
Play calling hasn’t helped either.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Papertiger418
It probably would depend on who Moss chose as his OC and what system they ran.
If Moss decided to stick to the Packer way, Raiders would run the zone-blocking scheme like Green Bay and be a spread/west coast offense.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
This whole “New Era of Excellence” regime reminds me of the worst of the Al Davis yr’s …only without the hope part.
Al at least would throw a juicy free agent out there for us…whether he worked out for us or not.
These guys will give you NOTHING to even contemplate as positive.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
J Hill
Agreed.
When the team ran the power, wham and ISO runs it suited DMC skill set.
Arkansas ran the zone-blocking scheme while McFadden was there, however, DMC is just simply too fast for defenders. In the NFL, everyone is fast.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
J Hill
When McFadden trucked the Falcons’ safety in that game, I saw a flash of Bo Jackson.
DMC ran over that dude, send him to turf hard.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
EVERYONE should be rooting for Pryor to be the real deal.
Do you realize how that helps our cap situation by being able to trade or cut Palmer?
We could fill a lot of holes with his salary AND a draft pick.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Yeah you’re probably right. I just remember how we were all so sure that Moss was going to be our HC…then we were wondering about Del Rio and now we’ve got this mess on our hands.
I just find myself thinking about last year and how even though I wasn’t pleased with Hue getting fired, I figured it was all a necessary part of the transition. It seems so long ago.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
For a good laugh…
Keep your eyes on the right tackle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSQJ_pw1FkA
December 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Did Khalif Barnes sneak on the field for that play?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Papertiger418
Yes, I was in that group which believed McKenzie was going to hire Moss.
Part of me believes Reggie didn’t hire Winston because everyone said he was going to.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
The same people who are complaining about lack of talent want to get rid of of our most talented player McFadden. I just don’t understand that logic. Get rid of knapp first and get a decent OC before speaking nonsense of getting rid of McFadden.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Kell,
Why don’t you blame the QB for throwing it short of the sticks?
There are 3 other receivers out in the pattern.
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Because I think it’s the playcalling. I’ve seen Knapp before. I’ve seen the dink and dunk before. He always throws under the defense no matter how close they’re playing the line.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
55 done in Oakland – good riddance. Reggie, hustle a 7th rounder and a bag of cheetos…
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I would rather have the Fish Tacos if thats cool~
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
If we can sign Anthony Spencer with that money that we could have spend on a top 5 pick?
Sad thing is, I haven’t smoked! =( LOL
Send me some GDP, i’ll have a better scenario next time! haha
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It’s much cheaper now to sign top 5 picks due to the new rookie salary cap.
LOL
Should I send it in a PB or Honey jar?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Would David Shaw let Tarver Coach his Defense?
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Considering David Shaw brought him in to be defensive coordinator of Stanford, and they were successful, I would think yes.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Twocents Says:
KoolKell, were you a great salesman when you first started or did you learn something as you gained experience?=====================================
What has led you to believe KK is great at or has learned anything? In here touting Marcus’s record against the Raiders because of the Marcus/Davis rift and he’s running out of ways to attack a dead man. He also just called out the coaches and the entire roster. I used to think he really was a Raider fan but an unhappy person so everything was negative, but he really doesn’t like the Raiders. And he must be unhappy ’cause he’s been here not liking the Raiders for 7 years. Who does that?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
If you were to look at the Warriors 2 years ago you woukld’ve thought there wss no way they could go on a 7 game easteern road trip and win the 1st 5 games including Miami. Well the get a great HC who hires great assistant coaches and they do something they haven’t done since 1978. Why because the coach changes the expectations and he demands they play defeense.
You look at this W’s team and there isn’t a superstar within 400 miles of them yet look at how they have turned the team around in a years time.
That is what great coaching does. They have 3 rookies and some role players beatin’ down great teams in their house. They have raised expectations of all their players and getting them to do things they don’t normally do.
Now look at the Raiders you have a GM come in with a HC and his staff and the opposite is taking place. I know please do not BORE me with the litiny excuses why this could not happen this year. But we had to regress and I’ll call you a liar. It’s not that we’re losing it’s HOW we are losing with talent better than many of the teams we’re losing to.
We’re coming out FLAT after halftime and starting slow. Many times players confused as to what the assignment is and being viewed as lazy and acheck cashers. I say they are demoralized unmotivated players upset at the leadership they have been subjected to. They know that the induviduals responsible have no vision as a result they are left to accept blame the vitriol from fans and media. When they know if only they had what other teams have they could be so much better.
That is an ugly reality…..
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Here’s a much better version of the comical play…
Again, watch the right tackle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AqnsjEPLIA
December 12th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
EVERYONE is going to be happy with our first rd pick this offseason.
McKenzie is not going to draft a “high riser” or reach for a player.
We won’t take a CB in the top 3 because he won’t be the BPA.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Habibi,
Whichever works! Anyway you could just shove it up the vaggina of a hot arab chick, 27-31 yrs of age? lol
Shukran!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Rudegruden
I would love to see McFadden remain a Raider.
He is an electrifying weapon a defense must account for — when healthy.
A big issue I have with Knapp is in the preseason game against Dallas, the first play was sending DMC in motion to WR. Palmer throws him the ball on a bubble screen and Oakland gains 18 yards.
I don’t believe that play has been called at any point in the regular season.
However, one play I did like was the toss/end around to DHB. He gained 22 against ATL in that game and trucked a corner for more yardage. That is how Heyward-Bey should be used. Let him use his speed/power to get yardage.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Kell,
Why don’t you blame the QB for throwing it short of the sticks?
There are 3 other receivers out in the pattern.
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Because I think it’s the playcalling. I’ve seen Knapp before. I’ve seen the dink and dunk before. He always throws under the defense no matter how close they’re playing the line.
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Another reason it’s on knapp is because Palmer has been accused of trying to go for too much when nothing is open. And all of a sudden he dinks and dunks??? Doesn’t make sense
Also the small fact that Knapps MO is throwing short of the sticks
December 12th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
The Warriors were TERRIBLE last year.
So does Allen get 2 years too, Priest?
Jarrett Jack and Landry type additions to the Raider defense would help too.
Those 2 cats have been LEGIT for quite some time.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
And he must be unhappy ’cause he’s been here not liking the Raiders for 7 years. Who does that?
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What’s there to be happy about in Raider Nation the last 10 years?
Worry about your own life gossipy Btch.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
417,
Yes. Cuz if anything Reggie has proved thus far is he knows all the right moves to make.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
EVERYONE should be rooting for Pryor to be the real deal.
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I am certainly rooting for him to be a solid player. No doubt. The second he walks on the field I am his biggest fan. However there are only three or four QB’s in the league that are not high draft choices. And out of those, only Romo and Brady are acceptable. So, that makes about a 90% chance that the reason 32 teams passed on him multiple times, was because those 32 GM’s and scouting departments, who consist of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of well established NFL talent evaluators, know more of what they are doing than Mistic and Priest.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Priesttj12 : You’re all over it. Truth. Coaching brings out the best (and worst) of players at this level.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Many times players confused as to what the assignment is
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And that’s a damn shame!!!!
I’ve been screaming low football IQ for years now.
Should be able to do more that just sic em!!!!
December 12th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
This whole “New Era of Excellence” regime reminds me of the worst of the Al Davis yr’s …only without the hope part.
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So far, yes. Is it for the better in the end? Perhaps. The flashy free agents Al had a tendency to go for only furthered the mess. Even though, this year has been an complete failure. I don’t see the silver lining other than getting rid of some crappy contracts. Full rebuild, friends.
December 12th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I think it’s Palmer. The Qb know it’s 3rd and 8. The QB is responsible for making good decisions. How is throwing a 3yd pass to he TE a good decision?
December 12th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
And it’s certainly DAs fault for not jumping all over Palmer and DA for repeatedly doing that dumb shhhtttt.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
428
Maybe no one is open?
Which is hard to believe but who knows?
December 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
J Hill
I still remember the disgusted glare Ron Bartell gave Mike Mitchell against the Saints when Brees hooked up with a WR for a wide-open touchdown.
Bartell let the wideout go expecting Mitchell to cover the area. Instead, Raider Nation is treated to Missle Mike sprinting in vain toward said WR.
Bartell looked over, glared and simply shook his head.
And before he was released by Oakland we see Bartell get torched by the Browns’ rookie WR for a big TD.
Yikes.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Mark Jackson has heart. He played with it and coaches with it. With a team with (some would say) questionable talent, they are showing what leadership and commitment can accomplish. A’s have the same deal. Niners too.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
EVERYONE is going to be happy with our first rd pick this offseason.
McKenzie is not going to draft a “high riser” or reach for a player.
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Not so fast. The “consensus” BPA doesn’t always work out. McClain, Gallery, McFadden…
December 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I think it’s Palmer. The Qb know it’s 3rd and 8. The QB is responsible for making good decisions. How is throwing a 3yd pass to he TE a good decision?
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Because no one else is open. And a three yard gain is still better than either a pick or a sack and a fumble.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I think it’s Palmer. The Qb know it’s 3rd and 8. The QB is responsible for making good decisions. How is throwing a 3yd pass to he TE a good decision?
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Ask Knapp, because Palmer, whatever his faults, has never been a dinky dunk.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
And it’s certainly DAs fault for not jumping all over Palmer and DA for repeatedly doing that dumb shhhtttt.
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I think DA is either afraid of Knapp or too buddy buddy with him. Either way I agree DA should be raising hell
December 12th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
The plays have receivers running 3 yds on 3rd & 8.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I can’t remember exactly which game it was, but, it was a 3-and-9 situation and Palmer drops back to throw. He looks and hits Myers for a 7-yard gain, punt.
The CBS crew gave a receiver-by-receiver glance and neither DHB, Moore or Streater got any separation.
Hard to believe considering DHB, Moore and Streater are pretty fast WRs, but, the tape didn’t lie.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Here’s a much better version of the comical play…
Again, watch the right tackle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AqnsjEPLIA
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LMFAO! Is he still there?
December 12th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
The plays have receivers running 3 yds on 3rd & 8. Over and over and over and over. You think that’s coinkydinky? Seriously.
That’s Design
December 12th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I think it’s Palmer. The Qb know it’s 3rd and 8. The QB is responsible for making good decisions. How is throwing a 3yd pass to he TE a good decision?
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Ask Knapp, because Palmer, whatever his faults, has never been a dinky dunk.
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Good point, Kell. Knapp turned Palmer into something he isn’t. This is NOT Palmer’s MO.
Remember Palmer in Hue’s offense? He had checkdown options. Rarely did he go to them. He likes pushing the ball downfield.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
*All* the Bay area teams are balling out – even the Quakes. Raiders were, last year anyway. And now…. It sucks..
December 12th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
If you were to look at the Warriors 2 years ago you woukld’ve thought there wss no way they could go on a 7 game easteern road trip and win the 1st 5 games including Miami. Well the get a great HC who hires great assistant coaches and they do something they haven’t done since 1978. Why because the coach changes the expectations and he demands they play defeense.
You look at this W’s team and there isn’t a superstar within 400 miles of them yet look at how they have turned the team around in a years time.
That is what great coaching does. They have 3 rookies and some role players beatin’ down great teams in their house. They have raised expectations of all their players and getting them to do things they don’t normally do.
Now look at the Raiders you have a GM come in with a HC and his staff and the opposite is taking place. I know please do not BORE me with the litiny excuses why this could not happen this year. But we had to regress and I’ll call you a liar. It’s not that we’re losing it’s HOW we are losing with talent better than many of the teams we’re losing to.
We’re coming out FLAT after halftime and starting slow. Many times players confused as to what the assignment is and being viewed as lazy and acheck cashers. I say they are demoralized unmotivated players upset at the leadership they have been subjected to. They know that the induviduals responsible have no vision as a result they are left to accept blame the vitriol from fans and media. When they know if only they had what other teams have they could be so much better.
That is an ugly reality…..
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Priest dropping the reality bomb on fools. Good post.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
The INT against the Browns really stands out to me. And not because of Palmer.
What stood out to me was seeing Juron Criner sprinting with all he had on the streak and watching Sheldon Brown not even running hard and staying stride-for-stride.
Criner was turning on all the afterburners he had and it looked like Brown was jogging.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
The Bay Area sports renascence will not include the Raiders. They arguably started it in 2010 but no longer in the conversation, sadly. Wake up Reggie!
December 12th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
What’s there to be happy about in Raider Nation the last 10 years?
Worry about your own life gossipy Btch.===============
Gossipy Btch. Damn, that’s not even the real KK.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
EVERYONE should be rooting for Pryor to be the real deal.
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So many in here seem to want to write off Houdini before he performs his magic show.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
The last 100 or so threads discussed:
Why are wr’s are regressing
Why McFadden is struggling badly this year
Why Palmer all of a sudden dinks and dinks
One answer to all of that….knapp is who we thought he was…a terrible OC
December 12th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
While I do have qualms in terms of his accuracy when he’s throwing the ball, I’ll say this:
To me, Terrelle Pryor running a play-action bootleg play presents more of a problem for opposing defenses than seeing Carson Palmer running it.
At least with Pryor, he keeps a D honest simply his ability to run and get big yards.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Its getting tiring listening to Ron WOLFE.. yes he was good many years ago.. the same ppl saying Ron wolfe this and that.. dont think Jon Gruden was a good coach LMAO.
Ron wolfe is responsible for reggie being here. However Mark should have taken two more interviews from different potential GM’s. Maybe one would have said lets just focus on the defense and rebuild that first. U have players for the offense.
Why was Ron wolfe pushing for Reggie so hard??? Was it so his son Elliot could get a promotion??? HMMMM
December 12th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Stanford had great asistant coaches of which my cousin was the assistant Dline coach before he died. I knew a lot of that staff when Harbaugh was there. They recruited well and demand a phsyical style with talent that is not nearly as gifted as many collegiate powers yet they coahc them up and win.
I knew David Shaw when he was with the Raiders and I was familar with them when Harbaugh was there I expressed the desire to hire Harbaugh before it was popular and he best USC I knew he would be a great NFL HC he started at the NFL level as did David Shaw.
The job David Shaw did this year was nothing short of phenomenal. Without Luck to basically have a better year due to his hiring of top teir talent in the coaching ranks he outdid his 1st year. With a redshirt freshman at QB and he lost half the Oline they were dominant on defense after key losses.
Gentleman that is top notch coachinghe has learned from the best and IMO has taken his place ampongst the best candidates in the land. Not to mention he is a born Raider who understand our brand and how to coach to it.
DA is NOT a Raider he is a fraud as far as I’m concerned and he has no sense of what it is to be a raider nor does he want to knwo what that means. DA is making a short stop here to go somewhere else. I say we send him on his way………get out and stay out!
December 12th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Mark Jackson has heart. He played with it and coaches with it. With a team with (some would say) questionable talent, they are showing what leadership and commitment can accomplish. A’s have the same deal. Niners too.
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The difference between the W’s, the A’s and the Whiners is those teams had some early success and gained confidence. The Raiders did not. And now, the Raiders have lost what little confidence they had. And fans booing them does not help, Which is a shame. These are not bad players. Palmer, Veldheer are extremely good players. Myers has been very very solid. Wiz, Carlisle, DHB, Moore, these are solid players. Goodson and Stewart are solid players. Marcel Reece is a horse you can build a franchise around that guy. Streator is a good player, so is Hagan.
On defense, Seymour is going to the HOF. Kelly, Burris, Wheeler, Huff, Hanson, Gio, Branch are good players. Shaughnessy has been a little bit of a disappointment, McClain has been terrible and we need a corner or two to step up.
What these players need to do is relax and just play. Relax, have some fun out there and play like they are capable. And we would be a much better team.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Priesttj12
Shaw would be a fantastic hire in Oakland.
But, I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
Shaw says he wants a legacy at Stanford bigger than Jim Harbaugh and Bill Walsh.
If David really wants that to happen, it’s going to take a few more years.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
The last 100 or so threads discussed:
Why are wr’s are regressing
Why McFadden is struggling badly this year
Why Palmer all of a sudden dinks and dinks
One answer to all of that….knapp is who we thought he was…a terrible OC
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Real talk. Nobody wants to admit that KNAPP has gotten every coach he has been with fired. Lane Kiffin, and JIM MORA Jr to begin with. Knapp was horrible in seattle. Pathetic. THey paid TJ housmazeh a big contract and didnt even get him the ball
December 12th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Reggie and Da may not have had alot to work with, but they sure as heck didn’t do ANYTHING with what they did have.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
DA is NOT a Raider he is a fraud
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With each passing week, the evidence to support this claim grows.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
DA is NOT a Raider he is a fraud as far as I’m concerned and he has no sense of what it is to be a raider nor does he want to knwo what that means. DA is making a short stop here to go somewhere else. I say we send him on his way………get out and stay out!
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Been saying that for a while. He doesnt even get his team up for Rivarly week. Nothing.. No emotion, No energy. He doesnt know what being a Raider is all about like HUE DID. HUE embraced it.
Everyone talking about Continuity. Does DA really deserve that when Raiders have had their worse month in terms of L’s and Points given up going back to AFL days and PRE AL ERA. MOST POINTS GIVEN UP since PRE AL era. hoorrible. I give a shyyyt about that
December 12th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Mark Davis stop listening to RON WOLF.. Listen to ur heart man.
U know DA is not the man for the job. U know u have stop buying what he is selling. Get rid of him
December 12th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Giving McKenzie and DA another go is all one Mark Davis.
Wonder if he goes the one-and-done route or stays the course…
December 12th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The difference between the W’s, the A’s and the Whiners is those teams had some early success and gained confidence. The Raiders did not. And now, the Raiders have lost what little confidence they had. And fans booing them does not help, Which is a shame. These are not bad players. Palmer, Veldheer are extremely good players. Myers has been very very solid. Wiz, Carlisle, DHB, Moore, these are solid players. Goodson and Stewart are solid players. Marcel Reece is a horse you can build a franchise around that guy. Streator is a good player, so is Hagan.
On defense, Seymour is going to the HOF. Kelly, Burris, Wheeler, Huff, Hanson, Gio, Branch are good players. Shaughnessy has been a little bit of a disappointment, McClain has been terrible and we need a corner or two to step up.
What these players need to do is relax and just play. Relax, have some fun out there and play like they are capable. And we would be a much better team.
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I have to agree that there is talent here, contrary to the know-it-alls in here that “saw this coming”. I am of the belief that there was a major coaching failure. Do we have SuperBowl talent? NO! But this team is capable of winning more than 3 effing games!
December 12th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Our coaches have been burnt to a crisp so bad this year you think they have the confidence to get it up for the KC game? I don’t. The weight of all that hurt and misery has to cloud any ability they have to game plan correctly, which btw they have proven over and again they can’t. Oh woe be unto this team.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
There has a been a weird VIBE every since DA was hired.. then when he hired that pathetic staff it was even more weird.
Its not even raider football.. dont even know what it is really. STRANGE
December 12th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
I remember hearing the news on Jovan Belcher and immediately calling my father-in-law who is a Chiefs fan.
Told him what happened and a silence… then… “Well, at least one Chief can catch a bullet. Too soon?”
Called him today to talk crap about his beloved Chiefs heading into Sunday’s game.
Didn’t need to.
“Every person in that organization needs to shoot themselves” he said.
Ouch.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
While I do have qualms in terms of his accuracy when he’s throwing the ball, I’ll say this:
To me, Terrelle Pryor running a play-action bootleg play presents more of a problem for opposing defenses than seeing Carson Palmer running it.
At least with Pryor, he keeps a D honest simply his ability to run and get big yards.
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How do you know for sure how accurate he is? When was the last time you saw him throw a pass? Are you judging him on what he did 2 years ago? Or in preseason when he threw 2 tds and completed 60 % of his passes?
That is basically saying no matter what he’s done to improve his accuracy it wont help. Everyone assumes they kn ow what this kid is capable of before they ever see him in action against a starting NFL defense with starting NFL talent around him.
Why not wait and let his play speak for itself. Because for me I didn’t see a thing wrong with his accuracy this preseason and I’m sure he’s gotten better. So why don’t we let the kid play and judge him based on performance.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
There has a been a weird VIBE every since DA was hired.. then when he hired that pathetic staff it was even more weird.
Its not even raider football.. dont even know what it is really. STRANGE
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It’s really bad football
December 12th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
There has a been a weird VIBE every since DA was hired.. then when he hired that pathetic staff it was even more weird.
Its not even raider football.. dont even know what it is really. STRANGE
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THAT is exactly what so many people here LOVE about it….and why they love DA. The less “Raider” he is the better.
It’s weird but true.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Shaw is not coming here. Grow the fukk up.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Raider O Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Dr. Rob (Racist troll) was obsessed with Beeech and now he is obsessed with Mistic.
Pathetic!
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i’m racist? that would mean u don’t know how to read, moron.
i like to punch dummies. u may be next.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
People said the only reason he looked decent in preseason was he was playing against scrubs. Well that wont be the case this Sunday…….will it?
December 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Its crazy having KNapp back.. even when he was interm HC. Knowing Tom Cable took play calling duties from him.. and Al canned his azz.
shouldnt be here. Mark should know this
December 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Priesttj12
Saw Pryor at Ohio State live. Saw him in preseason on the tele.
Yes, I have concerns with his accuracy, however, I’m not saying he’s terrible.
The long bombs I saw him throw while he was a Buckeye were damn beautiful. But, I saw him throw simple slant ahead, below, or behind his intended WR.
I like what Pryor brings to the table. Yet, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of his throws were off.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
If DA wants to blame the players, this is the way to do it….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw
December 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Who said he was man………I said we should get him. I guessed you have discussed this with him…..sense you KNOW so much.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
DA should have examined Knapps track record a little closer to have spared us so much pain. Just goes to show that bull sh”tting carries merit and reward. Amongst some people I guess that’s a must. So much hurt. We are witness to a world of hurt.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
btw one thing about Marcus Allen he looks like a smooth Mutha.. he probaly had all the chicks
December 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
I remember hearing the news on Jovan Belcher and immediately calling my father-in-law who is a Chiefs fan.
Told him what happened and a silence… then… “Well, at least one Chief can catch a bullet. Too soon?”
Called him today to talk crap about his beloved Chiefs heading into Sunday’s game.
Didn’t need to.
“Every person in that organization needs to shoot themselves” he said.
Ouch.
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A Chiefs fan in the family? Sorry to hear that. I work with a Chiefs fan that’s obnoxious as a mutha when they are playing well and a pouty little baby when they are not.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
People said the only reason he looked decent in preseason was he was playing against scrubs. Well that wont be the case this Sunday…….will it?
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Let’s hope he gets more than one series.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Try Some Reality
My wife is a Chiefs fan, as well.
Makes Sunday interesting, to say the least.
But have to hand it to Mrs. Jackasspuria.
She got me a Silver and Black wedding band and all of our 9-month-old daughter’s football-related clothing are all Raiders gear.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
ttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
People said the only reason he looked decent in preseason was he was playing against scrubs. Well that wont be the case this Sunday…….will it?
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Can’t say the 2-11 KC team is the 1985 chicago Bears but no, they are not going to have scrubs.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Btw no matter how good pryor is he alreayd has the chips stacked against him. 3 games left.. minimal plays. How can a QB be successful like that.
All these rookie Qb’s have been getting 1st team snaps in practice since mini camp and have play already 13 games this season. They have had bad and good games but they have had a chance to grow.
Hope pryor just takes off and has a good game. Make them not take him off the field.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Some of Palmers throws are off and behind and too low and he throws picks way too much.
Sooo why can’t Pryor just play through it and get better like every other QB in the history of the world.
Andrew Luck has turned the ball over 20 times do you believe he can get bettter? Of course he can.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Ah, well it sounds like your wifey is a reasonable Chiefs fan, Jackasspuria.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Shaw is not coming here. Grow the fukk up.
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Why not? Who is gonna replace DA and knapp after Sundays Toilet Bowl loss? Shaw would be a great fit after his Rosé Bowl win. So I guess we have to wait til then. Our season ended before it even started.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Priesttj12
So… did you not read the part where I said Pryor brings much more to the table than Palmer — athletically –?
“To me, Terrelle Pryor running a play-action bootleg play presents more of a problem for opposing defenses than seeing Carson Palmer running it.” — is what I wrote earlier.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Burton Guster
Shaw said he wants to leave a legacy at Stanford greater than Jim Harbaugh and Bill Walsh.
That’s going to take time.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Pryor might just save DA’s / Knapps gig. Pryor gonna make the coaching staff look foolish for not playing him all season.
I mean really? palmer still playin and were not going to playoffs
December 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
…and has enough taste to realize that Silver & Black is so much better than Ketchup and Mustard.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Plus, Pryor’s work ethic is Gannon-like.
That’s a plus in my book.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Not saying you don’t like Pryor at all, just saying why does everyone expect him to start off like gangbusters when no one really does. He will struggle like everyone else. The thing is he works his ass off to get better and that is what you want as an org……….period
December 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I remember listening to Greg Papa that preseason game. Papa almost Jizzzd his pants when he called that long pryor run.. then called that long Pryor pass.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Burton Guster Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Shaw is not coming here. Grow the fukk up.
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Why not? Who is gonna replace DA and knapp after Sundays Toilet Bowl loss? Shaw would be a great fit after his Rosé Bowl win. So I guess we have to wait til then. Our season ended before it even started.
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I would LOVE for Shaw to come here. But he is not coming here. You play the hand that is dealt. Not whine and cry that you want a new hand. Unless you are a whiny crying bit**
December 12th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Plus Al last link to this team is PRYOR.
hiis last draft pick. Al was calling pryor on the phone weeks before he passed.
His hold message was PATIENCE YOUNG MAN.. now his time has come. Run with it PRYOR. Right now he is our only hope for anything
December 12th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Burton Guster
Shaw said he wants to leave a legacy at Stanford greater than Jim Harbaugh and Bill Walsh.
That’s going to take time.
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Dang it.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Burton Guster
Shaw said he wants to leave a legacy at Stanford greater than Jim Harbaugh and Bill Walsh.
That’s going to take time.
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Dang it.
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But for 5 million dollarz I’ll leave this bish “- Shaw haha
December 12th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Mark Davis stop listening to RON WOLF.. Listen to ur heart man.
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Why would he not listen to Ron Wolf, a man of impeccable credentials?
December 12th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Why would he not listen to Ron Wolf, a man of impeccable credentials?
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um outdated and ulterior motives for one
December 12th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
plus Mark is gonna have to make hard choices on his own. He is the owner
December 12th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
If we get the hurt put on us by half time, think DA and knapp are fired before the get to the press podium? I think Mark patience has run dry. His misery is his embarrassment. Such a woeful season.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Mark Davis stop listening to RON WOLF.. Listen to ur heart man.
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Why would he not listen to Ron Wolf, a man of impeccable credentials?
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For the same reason that we are going to bring in someone who has never taken a snap in the NFL yet he is suddenly going to turn into Dan Marino, and because David Shaw is going to quit his gig and jump on to this disaster because he has nothing else going, and because Adrian Peterson is going to retire from the vikings, and then unretire just to join the Raiders because……..
December 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
And Jon Gruden has already inked a deal to come here and resurrect the franchise, and Barry Sanders will come out of retirement just to play for the Raiders, and…
December 12th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Anything I missed?
December 12th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I am expecting Pryor to play well a few plays but suck more than not. I hope he plays spectacularly but think anyone EXPECTING that is a blind faith Koolade drinker.
Name one person in the history of the NFL that has fixed delivery and accuracy problems at QB.
I will wait…
December 12th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Logic…
December 12th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Gdog Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I am expecting Pryor to play well a few plays but suck more than not. I hope he plays spectacularly but think anyone EXPECTING that is a blind faith Koolade drinker.
Name one person in the history of the NFL that has fixed delivery and accuracy problems at QB.
I will wait…
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Almost every Qb who’s ever played the position
December 12th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
And Jamarcus Russell has been working out 20+ hours a day, is down to 230 pounds of sheer chisled granite and has more accuracy than Peyton right now, and the Raiders never gave up his rights so he will be coming back, and Jimmy Johnson the ex Cowboy coach heard of this and he is going to come here, and bring Howie Long his partner on the CBS Pregame show as his defensive coordinator and….
December 12th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Gdog, Do you realize Joe Montana was altered drstically? Did you know Aaron Rodgers had a hitch in his delivery and suffered deep ball inaccuracy. What the hell do you think a QB coach does if not sharpen the mechanics of the QB. Why else have one? The QB at Kansas St. has changed his delivery drastically this year alone. It is the job description of the QB coach to hone the mechanics of his QB’s.
December 12th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
I assumed everyone understood what position coaches are for. No player comes into this league and is the finished product. Players can learn more about the position they play throughout their entire careersno player ever truely masters his position no matter how long he plays. Their are so many nuances to every position especially QB that you cannot play it perfectly. If Tom Brady played another 20 years he would still be learning more as he plays. Jerry Rice always talked about getting better up until the day he retired he was trying to get better.
QB mechanics and so intricate you will never know it all. The only thing you can do is work constantly on your craft until you get everything you can out of your god given ability reasonably speaking but as far as playing the position perfectly it’s impossible. You can always get better and sometimes you get in a rut and have to re-adjust to get out of it. It never stops
Pryor 3 years from now as he works on his craft can get 200% better and so on and so on.
December 12th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Priest… I heard all this same garbage from Donkey apologists when Tebow was drafted. I didn’t pay them any mind same as I won’t the Pryor cheerleaders here until he proves me wrong.
A QB with HORRIBLE delivery never improves.. same as a golfer. Why? Because when the game is on the line he regresses to bad habits.
I don’t think we are talking Montana or Rodgers tweaks here… we are talking a complete restructuring of a persons throwing motion.
Its never been successfully done.
You are simply drinking Koolade. I like Raider-Koolade, but realize its not what brings championships.
December 12th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
A QB with HORRIBLE delivery never improves.. same as a golfer. Why? Because when the game is on the line he regresses to bad habits.
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Let me rephrase… he WILL improve. He can never become elite.
Tiger Woods didn’t once have a swing resembling Charles Barkley, nor has even a single pro-golfer. They have always had a smooth as silk swing.
Same as a QB… sorry. I do not believe for a second a guy with a reputation as a mechanical nightmare can fix his swing enough to be an elite QB.
December 12th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
It has happened with a ton of QB’s some just never get it that doesn’t mean NONE ever get it………lol
Tebow has been in the league 3 years….and has changed his mechanics a lot but he had further to go than most anyoone I can remember.
You should’ve seen Rich Gannon when he came into the league.
Terrelle Pryor’s issues are not nearly as severe as Tebow’s man, if you compare the two I think you’re crazy. Pryor’s throwing motion and delivery is not much of an issues at all. Pryor’s issues are his footwork which is a direct affect on accuracy on a consistent basis if you knwo anything about playing the position. Footwork is critical, once he gets that down I think Pryor will be fine. Pryor was inconsistent with his accuracy he didn’t have the nightmarish issues Tebow has you’re going way way into an extreme with tebow Ive never seen QB with mechanics as bad as his. Except maybe the kid at Kansas St. and he’s improved tremendously in one year.
All QB’s have one issue or another they have do there are no perfect QB’s man………….NONE!
December 12th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
It has happened with a ton of QB’s some just never get it that doesn’t mean NONE ever get it………lol
Tebow has been in the league 3 years….and has changed his mechanics a lot but he had further to go than most anyoone I can remember.
You should’ve seen Rich Gannon when he came into the league.
Terrelle Pryor’s issues are not nearly as severe as Tebow’s man, if you compare the two I think you’re crazy. Pryor’s throwing motion and delivery is not much of an issues at all. Pryor’s issues are his footwork which is a direct affect on accuracy on a consistent basis if you knwo anything about playing the position. Footwork is critical, once he gets that down I think Pryor will be fine. Pryor was inconsistent with his accuracy he didn’t have the nightmarish issues Tebow has you’re going way way into an extreme with tebow Ive never seen QB with mechanics as bad as his. Except maybe the kid at Kansas St. and he’s improved tremendously in one year.
All QB’s have one issue or another they have do there are no perfect QB’s man………….NONE!
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Everyone wit any knowledge of the game and the QB position says the same thing, 95% of Pryor’s problems are from the waist down
December 12th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I fact Tom Brady would yearly go to a QB guru to re-adjust his mechanics every year in the offseason. because it’s easy to get into bad habits of one or another in terms of mechanics. This is common stuff man it surprises me how little people know when it comes to something this common. All players need to hone their skillsetif you don’t you will deteriorate as a player. You hav eto constantly work at it and if Pryor does he will get better and better it’s really that simple.
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Everyone wit any knowledge of the game and the QB position says the same thing, 95% of Pryor’s problems are from the waist down
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That’s why when I hear people say he cannot play QB it makes me think how silly people are. All that kid has to do is put in the work like everyone else at every position in this league. If he continues to work like crazy he can be as good as his work ethic will dictate………………period
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Terrelle Pryor’s issues are not nearly as severe as Tebow’s man, if you compare the two I think you’re crazy. Pryor’s throwing motion and delivery is not much of an issues at all. Pryor’s issues are his footwork which is a direct affect on accuracy on a consistent basis if you knwo anything about playing the position. Footwork is critical, once he gets that down I think Pryor will be fine. Pryor was inconsistent with his accuracy he didn’t have the nightmarish issues Tebow has you’re going way way into an extreme with tebow Ive never seen QB with mechanics as bad as his. Except maybe the kid at Kansas St. and he’s improved tremendously in one year.
All QB’s have one issue or another they have do there are no perfect QB’s man………….NONE!
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Sorry Bubs… when I see a college scout saying his delivery makes him cringe with his three quarter to sidearm “Uncle Rico” delivery all I can think of is Vince Young.
These things don’t get fixed, IMO.
Maybe you are right and Pryor is the next Aaron Rodgers… I will be anxious to watch.
December 12th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Everyone wit any knowledge of the game and the QB position says the same thing, 95% of Pryor’s problems are from the waist down
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That’s why when I hear people say he cannot play QB it makes me think how silly people are. All that kid has to do is put in the work like everyone else at every position in this league. If he continues to work like crazy he can be as good as his work ethic will dictate………………period
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I do hear good things about his work ethic… but nobody said anything different about Tebow.
Maybe he is a one in a million. The golfer with a horrible swing that becomes the next Jack Nicklaus or Tiger Woods by sheer determination.
I am not holding my breath. Bad habits tends to rear their ugly head at the worst times…
December 12th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Did’t say he was the next Aaron Rodgers I’m saying he’s the next Terrelle Pryor which is all he needs to be…………….period
December 12th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Everyone wit any knowledge of the game and the QB position says the same thing, 95% of Pryor’s problems are from the waist down
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That’s why when I hear people say he cannot play QB it makes me think how silly people are. All that kid has to do is put in the work like everyone else at every position in this league. If he continues to work like crazy he can be as good as his work ethic will dictate………………period
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He is already putting in the work, now he needs the reps. He has enough talent now to get by as he learns. He could have went to Michigan with Rich Rod and put up astronomical numbers in a gimmicky system, but instead went to a place where he would be better prepared for the NFL. Compare and contrast his performance on the white board with Cam Newton’s. You can clearly see who has a better grasp of the mental aspect of playing the QB position
December 12th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Gdog Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Everyone wit any knowledge of the game and the QB position says the same thing, 95% of Pryor’s problems are from the waist down
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That’s why when I hear people say he cannot play QB it makes me think how silly people are. All that kid has to do is put in the work like everyone else at every position in this league. If he continues to work like crazy he can be as good as his work ethic will dictate………………period
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I do hear good things about his work ethic… but nobody said anything different about Tebow.
Maybe he is a one in a million. The golfer with a horrible swing that becomes the next Jack Nicklaus or Tiger Woods by sheer determination.
I am not holding my breath. Bad habits tends to rear their ugly head at the worst times…
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es
Gdog tell me what is wrong with his arm action. I admit it can be a bit inconsistent, mostly because he has a terrible base he’s throwing from, but the foundation of sound throwing mechanics is there
December 13th, 2012 at 12:27 am
2-14 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
“McClain is back on the field.” More proof, as if there wasn’t enough already, that this coaching staff have no balls whatsoever. McClain is a horrible teammate and and even worse linebacker. Cut him
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pretty sure mcclain is still around cuz reggie wants it that way, not DA. it’s clear when DA talks about it, that he has no love for mcclain.
i think basically, if u put it all together, DA told mcclain he was gonna bench him, and mcclain got sh!tty. DA eventually told him to get lost, and he was “gone”. mcclain goes home and starts with the social media stuff.
them reggie says “we can’t cut him. we need draft picks, so we need to see what we can get for him. DA says, “fine, we’ll keep him around.”
but i wonder if DA is p!ssed about reggie overruling him.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
nope it is no longer about beating any team on the schedule it is about giving tp the most exposure possible so he may be evaluated
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So, it is now not about the franchise, not about building for the future, not about 60+ guys. It is now all about evaluating one guy that 32 teams passed on. Twice. Pal, you have officially lost your mind.
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LOL. i noticed that too. missdick thinks EVERYTHING is about pryor, a guy that the staff hasn’t even put on the field yet. dude is a joke (missdick that is).
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 am
RaiderDanny Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I got MarcusAllen, Tim Brown, Lester Hays, Casper, Hendricks, Townsend,Martin autographed and tattoo’de on my arm, but i HATE the Raiders right now!!
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i hope u spelled hayes with an “e”.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:30 am
J Hill Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
EVERYONE should be rooting for Pryor to be the real deal.
Do you realize how that helps our cap situation by being able to trade or cut Palmer?
We could fill a lot of holes with his salary AND a draft pick.
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i haven’t seen one poster say they were rooting against him.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Severeraiderz What happen is people tell a lot of lies on this kid for whatever reason and you look at his highlight reel and ask anyone with half a brain what’s wrong with his throwing motion and if they say much more than footwork and consistency you know their either lying or they haven’t seen the kid play.
Does he throw an occasional bad ball? absolutely!
Who doesn’t at his age and development. But the material there to work with and the chance he could be great is there. All it amounts to is how hard is the kid willing to work to get there………..period
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 am
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
The plays have receivers running 3 yds on 3rd & 8. Over and over and over and over. You think that’s coinkydinky? Seriously.
That’s Design
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evidence of ur complete ignorance on how plays are designed. there are deep, intermediate, and short receivers on practically every pass play. generally, the qb looks deep, the middle, then short, in progression. if the others are covered, he checks down and hits the short guy in hopes he can run for the 1st after the catch. this is elementary stuff.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
People said the only reason he looked decent in preseason was he was playing against scrubs. Well that wont be the case this Sunday…….will it?
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no. no it will not. and while i hope he looks great, what happens if he looks bad? we already have heard preemptive posts from missdick saying the coaches won’t use him correctly. what will u be saying?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:40 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Some of Palmers throws are off and behind and too low and he throws picks way too much.
Sooo why can’t Pryor just play through it and get better like every other QB in the history of the world.
Andrew Luck has turned the ball over 20 times do you believe he can get bettter? Of course he can.
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well, gee, uh, i dunno. maybe it has to with the fact that pryor was always dubious as a qb. they’re not sold on him. duh.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Not saying you don’t like Pryor at all, just saying why does everyone expect him to start off like gangbusters when no one really does. He will struggle like everyone else. The thing is he works his ass off to get better and that is what you want as an org……….period
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according to ur buddy missdick, pryor will be an instant upgrade over palmer. well, that was until he heard he might actually play. now, he’s pretty sure the coaches will be the cause of his struggles on sunday.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Gdog Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I am expecting Pryor to play well a few plays but suck more than not. I hope he plays spectacularly but think anyone EXPECTING that is a blind faith Koolade drinker.
Name one person in the history of the NFL that has fixed delivery and accuracy problems at QB.
I will wait…
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Almost every Qb who’s ever played the position
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hahahahhahahahahhaha!!!!!
and ur an “insider”. LOL!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
I assumed everyone understood what position coaches are for. No player comes into this league and is the finished product. Players can learn more about the position they play throughout their entire careersno player ever truely masters his position no matter how long he plays. Their are so many nuances to every position especially QB that you cannot play it perfectly. If Tom Brady played another 20 years he would still be learning more as he plays. Jerry Rice always talked about getting better up until the day he retired he was trying to get better.
QB mechanics and so intricate you will never know it all. The only thing you can do is work constantly on your craft until you get everything you can out of your god given ability reasonably speaking but as far as playing the position perfectly it’s impossible. You can always get better and sometimes you get in a rut and have to re-adjust to get out of it. It never stops
Pryor 3 years from now as he works on his craft can get 200% better and so on and so on.
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so, pryor should be given the job no matter how horrible he is, and continue to be given the job for years, because “he’s working on it”.
ur too stupid for words.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Everyone wit any knowledge of the game and the QB position says the same thing, 95% of Pryor’s problems are from the waist down
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That’s why when I hear people say he cannot play QB it makes me think how silly people are. All that kid has to do is put in the work like everyone else at every position in this league. If he continues to work like crazy he can be as good as his work ethic will dictate………………period
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so, why does any qb ever fail?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:48 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Severeraiderz What happen is people tell a lot of lies on this kid for whatever reason and you look at his highlight reel and ask anyone with half a brain what’s wrong with his throwing motion and if they say much more than footwork and consistency you know their either lying or they haven’t seen the kid play.
Does he throw an occasional bad ball? absolutely!
Who doesn’t at his age and development. But the material there to work with and the chance he could be great is there. All it amounts to is how hard is the kid willing to work to get there………..period
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u really don’t know much about mechanics do u?
he turns his body awkwardly towards the receiver before he throws it, and flips his hand down as he releases. it’s why he throws so many dirt balls.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:51 am
priest–as usual, u avoid responding to me, cuz u know i’ll rip u apart.
my prediction for pryor this sunday?
about 3 or 4 series. and he will look average to below average as a passer, while making a few nice runs.
maybe along the lines of 3-8 24 yards/ 4 rushes 20 yards.
nothing much. maybe a pick. inconclusive but definitely questionable.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:52 am
anyone wanna bet pryor throws at least two passes about 5-10 feet short, right in the dirt?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 am
I wonder if Dennis Allen can spell “potato.”
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 am
I’m a big Ohio State fan, so seeing Pryor succeed would be awesome for me on multiple levels.
That said, I have NOTHING BUT DOUBTS with TP. The same people who criticize Palmer and are constantly running their G.M. Jr. mouths about TP being the next Elway need to put up or shut up. If TP plays, then we’ll all get a chance to evaluate the guy. If he plays well, I’ll say so. If he sucks, I hope (but don’t expect) the TP fanboys to man up and call a spade a spade.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:46 am
Dan78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Reggie will trade down and end up drafting Barkeley… food for thought…
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Already projected to the 2nd round. Boy did that guys stock drop. He’d have been a top 5 pick had he gone this year, and likely would’ve pushed RGIII down.
That being said, it’d still be worth the pick, because they could move on from Palmer. I refuse to believe every USC qb will be hot garbage (other than Pat Haden)
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 am
Watching the 2002 Raiders clinch AFC West v. the Chiefs. Theyre running through, over and around him…190 yards by 3rd quarter… we have been watching some frauds…this isnt the Real Raiders…
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 am
Garner had 91 receptions going into week 15. Our leading receiver has 70…
Chiefs were averaging 31.3 per game, and had 0 points going into the fourth.
days gone by, indeed.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:31 am
Carson Palmer is not the problem, but he takes a lot of heat. He is going to wind up throwing for 4,700 yards and 27 touchdowns on a team that has issues on the O-line, running back, receiver and a defense that is a big part of the six-game losing streak.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:56 am
Meanwhile in Chicago, the fans can’t stand JaCampbell and nicknamed him “Charlie Checkdown.”
December 13th, 2012 at 4:27 am
Couple of thoughts from me checking in…
1. It doesn’t matter that Palmer is on $13m and Pryor on $900k, in terms of “you dont bench someone earning $13m” talk ive read. Matt Flynn is on way more money than Wilson, and Wilson ended up showing more promise so they benched Flynn all year. Also, look even at our Raiders…McClain is on millions a year, but if he’s not our best LB they’ll bench him and play someone who is, regardless of their salary. This is happening all around the league…there are players who are on minimum coin who are starting over players on bigger salaries.
2. Anyway, all that salary talk is irrelevant in this situation. Eliminated from playoffs, Reggie and DA need to assess players for 2013. Think of the last three games as like pre-season games. They have to play them all, and increasingly so, to assess who’s worth keeping or not.
3. However, as we all know, Knapp/DA should be criticized heavily for not factoring Pryor in whatsoever into the season. Hasn’t run a single play, or been involved in a single play, all season. That’s just pathetic offensive thinking. Doesn’t matter if he’s #3 QB. When they saw the season was a wash in mid-November, werent going to make the playoffs anyway, there was no point keeping Leinart #2 “in case Palmer got injured”. They were always going to lose, as we saw thruout November and December so far.
4. If the Raiders relocate to Dublin or LA, it wont make a difference in terms of sell-outs, because Dublin and LA locals will still protest with their pockets Knapp returning as OC.
December 13th, 2012 at 5:47 am
132.guest123 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
No. If you are over the cap the NFL will take your future draft picks.
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I meant take the pain all the way to the cap limit and sign nobody of note in free agency. take as much cap poison as possible WITHOUT going over the cap.
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Thats essentially what Reggie did.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:03 am
He is already putting in the work, now he needs the reps. He has enough talent now to get by as he learns. He could have went to Michigan with Rich Rod and put up astronomical numbers in a gimmicky system, but instead went to a place where he would be better prepared for the NFL. Compare and contrast his performance on the white board with Cam Newton’s. You can clearly see who has a better grasp of the mental aspect of playing the QB position
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Ohio State? Go ahead and name me one decent QB from there that’s played in the NFL in the last 20 years.
They don’t develop NFL quarterbacks at Ohio State. They concentrate on winning the Big Ten, beating Michigan, and going to the Rose Bowl. Woody Hayes never developed a decent NFL quarterback, Earle Bruce never did, there’s a good chance that Jim Tressell never did, and based on his track record it’s doubtful we’ll see one from Urban Meyer either. Which is fine by me, by the way. Coaches at the big schools are paid to win games, period. They have enough to worry about without stressing over whether Johnny grasps the nuances of the pro game. If it happens that a kid is NFL-ready when he graduates or moves on, great, but it sure shouldn’t be (and in most cases, isn’t) the priority.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
So Pryor will finally get his chance? We’ll see Sunday!
Hopefully we stay long enough to see him play!
December 13th, 2012 at 6:14 am
no scheet sherlock, reggie guttes this team get ready for the new “error” of raider football….spend nothing on players = early tampa bay bucs = new raiders
December 13th, 2012 at 6:24 am
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 5:47 am
132.guest123 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
No. If you are over the cap the NFL will take your future draft picks.
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I meant take the pain all the way to the cap limit and sign nobody of note in free agency. take as much cap poison as possible WITHOUT going over the cap.
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Thats essentially what Reggie did.
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essentially meaning almost. No need to lock up Branch long term or pay Rich S another $7.5M for his retirement fund. No need to bring in Bresiel either. Just a series of 3rd day or later table scrap one year FA deals, which like you said he “essentially” did. Gotta clean house before we get better.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:25 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
So Pryor will finally get his chance? We’ll see Sunday!
Hopefully we stay long enough to see him play!
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Good morning Hawaiian Raider!
Hopefully by then the game will not have any meaning so the kid can play without all the pressure.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:29 am
3 more years of Peyton in our division coincides with Reggies full scale 3 year rebuild. Hope you all have a lot of time on your hands. This is going to take awhile.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:29 am
just patience baby!
December 13th, 2012 at 6:30 am
The Brisiel deal in hindsight was bad but think about it, you are switching to the ZBS, the highest graded zbs guard in the league becomes available, his former oline coach who is now your oline coach recommends him. I mean, seems like a move most GMs would make. It isn’t an out of whack contract, and it doesn’t hurt us in the long term either.
Same thing with Branch, I know he gets crapped on in here a lot, but he is very highly regarded in the NFL.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Guest123 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 6:24 am
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 5:47 am
132.guest123 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
No. If you are over the cap the NFL will take your future draft picks.
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I meant take the pain all the way to the cap limit and sign nobody of note in free agency. take as much cap poison as possible WITHOUT going over the cap.
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Thats essentially what Reggie did.
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essentially meaning almost. No need to lock up Branch long term or pay Rich S another $7.5M for his retirement fund. No need to bring in Bresiel either. Just a series of 3rd day or later table scrap one year FA deals, which like you said he “essentially” did. Gotta clean house before we get better.
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Agreed, if Reggie were truly rebuilding he wouldnt have made the deals he did on Seymour, Branch, and Briesel. Reggie had a bad year.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Last offseason, we all bought into the illusion that the team was reloading and the coaching staff would make water into wine. Now that the blinders are off and we see reality for what it is, I’m down with a firesale salary cap purge. We can’t continue to dance around bad contracts and walk the line between salary capped out and a mix of really bad players with a few stars. What’s the point? Al Davis left this team in much worse shape than we were led to believe.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:45 am
I’d also concede to Reggie’s vision that he had for the Raiders going into the ZBS system on offense and being “mutliple” as it was called for Tarver’s defense. It hasn’t worked out for either, but I don’t think Reggie will make dramatic changes there.
But the coaches who attempted to run with Reggie Mck’s vision should be fired anyway. Reggie needs to wait on the new class of possible coaching hires this offseason and pounce on an upgrade to Tarver & Knapp. Hoffman should be let go immediately after the final game regardless. We definitely got the plan B and plan C coaches and coordinators. I think he’ll stick with DA no matter what though and also DA’s coaching philosphies.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:57 am
guest123 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 6:25 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
So Pryor will finally get his chance? We’ll see Sunday!
Hopefully we stay long enough to see him play!
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Good morning Hawaiian Raider!
Hopefully by then the game will not have any meaning so the kid can play without all the pressure.
Good Morning Guest!
I know right?
December 13th, 2012 at 7:03 am
We almost did not go to this game…almost decided to call it a year and just relax for the rest of the year, but…hey, why not!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:08 am
for what we are payinh briesel we could have paid bush….5 million a year for that krap?
December 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 7:08 am
for what we are payinh briesel we could have paid bush….5 million a year for that krap?
Right!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Watched Marcus Allen: A Football Life last night. Man I miss those days!!! Still want to know what happened between him and Al!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:21 am
550.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 6:30 am
The Brisiel deal in hindsight was bad but think about it, you are switching to the ZBS, the highest graded zbs guard in the league becomes available, his former oline coach who is now your oline coach recommends him. I mean, seems like a move most GMs would make. It isn’t an out of whack contract, and it doesn’t hurt us in the long term either.
Same thing with Branch, I know he gets crapped on in here a lot, but he is very highly regarded in the NFL.
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I don’t know how much the national guys really watch the Raiders to say that Branch is so good.
I’ve seen him whiff way too many times with his flailing arm tackle swipes.
Maybe it’s one of those Seymour things where people keep saying how good he is when you really don’t see him or hear his name mentioned..such as taking up double teams etc. Although when I watch closely, i don’t notice that happening very often.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:25 am
558.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Watched Marcus Allen: A Football Life last night. Man I miss those days!!! Still want to know what happened between him and Al!
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Alot of it has to do with playing Bo Jackson over Marcus.
I remember at the time as far as your best chance to win, Bo being that guy.
Bo was the best combination of speed and power the league had ever seen and it’s pretty tough to keep a giy like that on the bench…even if u do already have Marcus.
I think Marcus was upset about that and it kind of escalated from there. Marcus then wanted out, and Al didn’t wnat to let him go…till finally he did.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Bush didn’t want to be a Raider. Period. He didn’t even give us the opportunity to match the contract the Bears offered him to BACK UP Forte!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Too bad the last 2 years though…Marcus was wasted talent on the bench! After he went to KC, they were 9-1 against us! I hated those 5 years!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Too bad we couldn’t have that Bo Marcus problem now… in a time when an offense can easily be tailored to 2 feature backs…
I think we have 2 more rings at least if Bo never gets hurt… fvckin bengals.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:28 am
That is true, Bcz!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:29 am
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Too bad we couldn’t have that Bo Marcus problem now… in a time when an offense can easily be tailored to 2 feature backs…
I think we have 2 more rings at least if Bo never gets hurt… fvckin bengals.
I was saying 3 but yeah, at lest 2
December 13th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I don’t think we will ever see an Allen or Bo again…I’m glad 32 and 34 played for the Silver and Black!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:33 am
I’d rather see Pryor play start to finish and have to deal with pressure right away.
It’s not like we have such a porous line as far as pass blocking is concerned that he would be under constant duress.
People say Palmer is immobile, and if that’s the case. our line has not been that bad as Palmer sack total is more middle of the pack in the league.
If people want to see if Pryor should be the #2, then you have to see how would do in pressure situations cuz nobody’s gonna take it easy on him.
I say let Pryor deal with everything a real NFL D might throw at him and take his lumps and see how he handles it.
If he goes out in only easy situations we will learn nothing in regard to how he would be in the real game time situations.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Peterson is pretty close to what Bo was, he is a hair slower, but he also plays against far better defenses.
To have a legit shot to break the all time single season rushing record 10 after destroying his knee at the end of last year is simply freakish.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Palmer isn’t ‘mobile’ per say, but he isn’t a statue. He is pretty adept at moving within the pocket to avoid pressure, AND Palmer has be very good at getting the ball out before the sack occurs… not always with the best results. Our pass blocking, even though our sack #s are middle of the pack, has been quite awful.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I seriously hope Pryor turns out to be exactly what Mistic thinks he is. It will be worth the 1000’s of posts patting himself on the back for the benefit of the organization.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Peterson is pretty close to what Bo was, he is a hair slower
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a HAIR???
December 13th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Defenses may be faster and more complex now, but tackling in the NFL these days is not so good. I’ll take Bo, thanks.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Yeah you’re right, AP is pretty up there and he is on pace to break 2000 yards a year after damaging his knee…TWICE!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:42 am
hindsight is always 20/20
I liked the Briesel deal at the time and thought it made sense.
Of course my opinion has changed since then.
It’s not a move I would bash Reggie for.
At the same time I would say see-ya to Briesel.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Krapp wont put tp in any easy situations.. they wont start tp. And when they do bring him in krapp will give him an athelete package instead of just running our playbook.. zone option?? Yup
December 13th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I wann see how our D line is with Big Rich back in there…they have declined since Seymour was out!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I keep popping on here hoping i’ll see some big announcement of some kind. I don’t know what i’m looking for, just SOMETHING…ANYTHING to get excited about.
I need to get over my Raiders addiction and quit hoping they can or will do anything positive or of any consequence.
If you like misery, blandness, beatdowns, embarrassment, being laughed at, non-competitive and being hopeless…THIS is your team this year.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I do have to bash Reggie for hiring brisel.. we needed passrush and cb help.. we Had a solid center already.. he cut satele jumbled the line and brought in pure garbage at our positions of need. Turrible
December 13th, 2012 at 7:47 am
The “Vets” on this pathetic team should buy the reamining tix and give them to charity…
Let the game be on TV for those who can’t make it and let a whole bunch of kids and parents in for free…
Only way to make it look less than EMPTY on Sunday.
Maybe it’s better for Mumbles and Jr to see an empty coliseum for this wretched product they’ve prodused.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I agree that we should’ve kept Satele. He was good.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:50 am
568.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Peterson is pretty close to what Bo was, he is a hair slower, but he also plays against far better defenses.
To have a legit shot to break the all time single season rushing record 10 after destroying his knee at the end of last year is simply freakish.
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Bo to this day STILL has the fastest time at the combine EVER recorded and literally ran over people.
Steve Atwater was supposed to be one of the toughest hitters in the league when Bo just ran over him and kept on going…and we all remember the Bosworth thing.
Peterson is really good though.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:50 am
That is the problem of trying to evaluate secondary and linebacker talent on a team with a weak Dline.
When a DB is your team’s leading tackler you have SERIOUS problems up front.
Long before the game is played this week, please do not be fooled by a strong game from Seymour, Kelly or Shaugnessy.
We are playing a weak team who will be forced to be more one dimensional without Bowe on the road.
Same for Carlisle and Barnes.
We have five line spots that need to be upgraded significantly. THE DENVER GAME IS ALL WE NEED TO SEE TO KNOW THAT.
I am also amused by the questions regarding why Myers went from 14 to one catche against the Broncos.
HE WAS HELD IN TO HELP BARNES (and Veldheer to a lesser extent) as much as possible. You saw what happened when we did not do that twords the end when we had to play catch up. Circumstances have a big impact on results and there is not always a direct correlation with the immediate players involved.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
The one BIG mistake Reggie did this year, besides not keeping Samson (which is very close) is not bringing in a vet true #1 receiver! Not sure how much it would have helped, but our guys are way too young!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
I like to judge player by video games, and Peterson is not unstoppable in Madden like Bo was in Techmo Bowl.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:53 am
579.VanHeathen30 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 7:47 am
The “Vets” on this pathetic team should buy the reamining tix and give them to charity…
Let the game be on TV for those who can’t make it and let a whole bunch of kids and parents in for free…
Only way to make it look less than EMPTY on Sunday.
Maybe it’s better for Mumbles and Jr to see an empty coliseum for this wretched product they’ve prodused.
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Yes. I think it is better that they see an almost empty stadium.
This team has been on a downward spiral since opening night…and we didn’t even win that game.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:53 am
LOL, Bo in Techmo Bowl! He was unstoppable!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am
The Oakland Police Department is now being run by a federal police officer? what are you people doing up there? Dont you like weed?
December 13th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Mark, The Oakland PD has been reduced big time over the last couple years. I don’t see my friend working the games anymore. I hope he still has a job.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Reggie and da made soo many mistakes before the season started…. this team never had a chance…
December 13th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Raiders will be back with DA and knapp next year. OLINE is blocking better now. defense is a mess and tarver might not be back. Raiders have to get that running game going. if they can run they can compete NEXT year, at least be respectable. i don’t think the offense is far off oat all. need to draft for defense though.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Our police are wasting all our money on a rediculus war on drugs.. thats why theyre broke.. stop arresting and jailing for pot. Stop burning down fields, and start taxing the stuff… fùcking morons in this state.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Problem is it’s difficult to regulate drugs people can grow/make themselves. Legalize Pot and i’ll start growing my own. Unlike Cigarettes and Alcohol, which is much more difficult to brew yourself.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:07 am
590.manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Raiders will be back with DA and knapp next year. OLINE is blocking better now. defense is a mess and tarver might not be back. Raiders have to get that running game going. if they can run they can compete NEXT year, at least be respectable. i don’t think the offense is far off oat all. need to draft for defense though.
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Establishing the run is one thing, but when Knapp abandons it after going down 3 points makes it pointless. He has to go along with the ZBS
December 13th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Ppl grow their own tomatos too.. doesnt hurt the agricultural industry.. the courts cops and jails are all buring money on the war on drugs.. while at the same tiime making mexican gangsters rich..
December 13th, 2012 at 8:13 am
We have the best soil on earth an all these àssholes want to do is build houses on it…
December 13th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Its the greed of the mortgage brokers!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Growing a few Tomatoes in your garden that spoil rather quickly is one thing. Growing 12 plants that yeild 2-4 pounds each, that can be sold to dispensaries under the table is different. I agree with the burden it causes us, but the $$$ the state makes on the war that they can’t recoupe from legalization yet is the hurdle stopping them. Until they figure out how to make their money without the common people getting a piece, then we’re stuck.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Also, it’s Cocaine that makes the Cartels Rich, not so much weed. And i don’t see that being legalized ever so there’s really no solution to that.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:19 am
What about Stablers delivery? So what as long as he delivers the ball to our team and not the opposition. He also has escape-ability that our current QB does not have. You want Lienert 1st then who’s gonna protect him Barnes and Brisiel? Stop hating on Raiders and get behind change. This team is going to change even more. How much is Pryor making 13 mil or 500,000.00? that’s the difference 12.5 opened up! Go Raiders!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:21 am
The state only loses money in the war on drugs. Theres no profit. Just stop and do your jobs..
December 13th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Bs on your cartell toughts as well. Weed is Big bussiness
December 13th, 2012 at 8:25 am
600.Marks hair Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:21 am
The state only loses money in the war on drugs. Theres no profit. Just stop and do your jobs..
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It’s a matter of federal funding, States get it and then sciphon it off. We may lose, but you can bet others a lot higher up make money.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:27 am
601.Marks hair Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Bs on your cartell toughts as well. Weed is Big bussiness
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I’m sure it still is. But Coke is the bread and butter. It has to come from South America and a small brick is worth twice as much as it’s weight in weed.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:27 am
But we make the laws.. fùck those dirty cops and lawers
December 13th, 2012 at 8:29 am
604.Marks hair Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:27 am
But we make the laws.. fùck those dirty cops and lawers
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No we don’t, Politicians make the laws and they’re the ones who make the money. If they weren’t making money off it in someway, then you can bet things would be different.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I’m not discounting cocaine .. But Mexico is not in South America. Mexican cartels can grow weed there or here in California. it’s big business.. If we made tobacco illegal all the southern states would go broke.. Weed could be a massive cash crop for this country.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:33 am
It was on the ballot last yr guy.. i voted to leagalize it. So did two states full of people this yr..
December 13th, 2012 at 8:35 am
That is why I always said that the war on drugs will never stop. Too much dirty money to be had! But yes, if it will never change, why bother?
December 13th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Our cops, polititions, judges and lawers are all dirty.. That’s why theyre mass producing a drone army and airforce.. so we dont revolt against the 1% and their henchmen..
December 13th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Marks hair Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I’m not discounting cocaine .. But Mexico is not in South America. Mexican cartels can grow weed there or here in California. it’s big business.. If we made tobacco illegal all the southern states would go broke.. Weed could be a massive cash crop for this country.
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they pay the farmers here in southern Maryland NOT to grow tobacco.
and in Montgomery co. Maryland they are trying to make it illegal to
smoke cigarettes any where in the county !!( yes even in your car driving down the road)
December 13th, 2012 at 8:41 am
oh and btw…. GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Mike they are a couple cities here in the Bay that have the same law…
December 13th, 2012 at 8:46 am
609.Marks hair Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Our cops, polititions, judges and lawers are all dirty.. That’s why theyre mass producing a drone army and airforce.. so we dont revolt against the 1% and their henchmen..
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….I blame Carson Palmer.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:47 am
They don’t develop NFL quarterbacks at Ohio State. They concentrate on winning the Big Ten, beating Michigan, and going to the Rose Bowl. Woody Hayes never developed a decent NFL quarterback, Earle Bruce never did, there’s a good chance that Jim Tressell never did, and based on his track record it’s doubtful we’ll see one from Urban Meyer either. Which is fine by me, by the way. Coaches at the big schools are paid to win games, period. They have enough to worry about without stressing over whether Johnny grasps the nuances of the pro game. If it happens that a kid is NFL-ready when he graduates or moves on, great, but it sure shouldn’t be (and in most cases, isn’t) the priority.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Good post, but you made ONE mistake. It’s called THE Ohio State University.
Go Buckeyes!!
Damn you Mich!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Good morning Nation and Green Party.
ODB,
Maybe you should get in the tobacco growing business. Getting paid for not growing/ working is the ultimate job as a Green Party member.
Long live the ODB!!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I’m sorry my Oakland family but the Raiders are coming back to the City of Angels in 2014. They will play at the Rose Bowl for a couple of seasons until Farmers Field is complete!! At the end of the day its all about money LA has it and the East Bay can’t compare. The Polls in the LA times showing that LA doesn’t want the Raiders is or was a bunch of the homies from NorCal calling to vote “NO” but that vote was split. Besides 40% of the stadium is filled with SoCal peeps i see them there weekly and half of that from my HOOD!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Until that actually happens…NO!
LOL
At this point, nothing will surprise me anymore!
December 13th, 2012 at 8:54 am
there will never be another bo in our lifetime…
December 13th, 2012 at 8:54 am
606.Marks hair Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I’m not discounting cocaine .. But Mexico is not in South America. Mexican cartels can grow weed there or here in California. it’s big business.. If we made tobacco illegal all the southern states would go broke.. Weed could be a massive cash crop for this country.
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Mexico may not be south America, but it’s the main trade route. I know most of the dispensary stuff and street high grade is grown locally.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:55 am
My wife and I watched the Bo Jackson 30 in 30 special and the Marcus Allen NFL Network profile….after which my wife turns to me and says, “So the Raider’s haven’t sucked your entire life?”
I sent her to her room with no luvin.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Good morning Hawaiin bro,..just three more weeks of this season,…we going to the Charger game,..then a week later its off to Kaanapali,…you going to be out that way in January?…we will be there darn near the whole month…catch me at the cave, or Moose`s in La Haina….hook up with me Sunday, do some shots.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Bo Jackson’s were the last Athlete endorsed shoes i’ve ever owned.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:00 am
What’s up Bob? I will try to make it out there in January. Been way too long since I have been to Maui, let alone the Cave! But Sunday, I will be there. Going all out for this one!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Bo was a freak of nature….I cried when they finally admitted he would never play football again.
That was around the same time Magic got the HIV.
And a couple years later my favorite Cub, Ryne Sandberg, broke his wrist and was never the same.
And the Kings lost in the Stanley Cup finals in part due to a overly curved stick.
And ND lost to BC a week after beating Florida State in the “Game of the Century”.
All of that in about a 4 year period…..and I was a volatile teenager….miracle I didn’t go postal.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Ok just find Brien and you will find the rest of us,…going to crash Brads in D lot,…cya then vato.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:05 am
I remember DMC`s first year here,..preseason game he made a nice run then got tackled,…Papa tried to play him up, said man that reminds you of Bo Jackson doesnt it??…Tom Flores quickly said, “Bo never got caught from behind”….DMC isnt fast at all, wasnt as a Hog and is slower now and fakes injuries,..thats why Reggie dumping him in three weeks,…along with about 25 others.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:06 am
NFL players want nothing to do with HGH testing…..are we still going to watch the NFL once they ban HGH and the players shrink by 10-15% and run slower? Once they look like humans again?
I always laugh how people kill MLB due to roids, but put the most roided up baseball players next to NFL LBers and DEs, and you can tell which players are using the good stuff, but no one wants the NFL to change…..ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
December 13th, 2012 at 9:09 am
I wish McFadden would get on HGH….keep him healthy.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:10 am
627.Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:06 am
NFL players want nothing to do with HGH testing…..are we still going to watch the NFL once they ban HGH and the players shrink by 10-15% and run slower? Once they look like humans again?
I always laugh how people kill MLB due to roids, but put the most roided up baseball players next to NFL LBers and DEs, and you can tell which players are using the good stuff, but no one wants the NFL to change…..ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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Lol, like Howie and Lyle?
December 13th, 2012 at 9:12 am
DMC is healthy, is always healthy,..however lacks the desire to be a football player,…Peterson in Minn darn near loses his leg just a few months ago and is the best back in the league,…DMC wont suit up if he doesnt sleep well the night before,…I feel bad for even putting DMC in the same post as Peterson.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:13 am
JonGroupie2013… SMH.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Howie?
NEVER!
December 13th, 2012 at 9:15 am
632.Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Howie?
NEVER!
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Yeah, he probably just used the same head excercises as Barry Bonds.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Bo is a major reason for me becoming a Raider fan, and as a result over 2 decades of disappointment. Thanks, Bo.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:18 am
tp playing actually gives us something to look forward too, dang i hope he’s good and if he is think we can get anything for from say the cards, chiefs, or jets?
December 13th, 2012 at 9:18 am
inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:18 am
tp playing actually gives us something to look forward too, dang i hope he’s good and if he is think we can get anything for from say the cards, chiefs, or jets?
anything for palmer i meant to say
December 13th, 2012 at 9:20 am
insane numbers…faster than deon bigger than most….
December 13th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Someone tried to smuggle a baby through airport security in the UAE and put the 5 month old baby in the carry-on and let it go through the x-ray machine….maybe the world will end soon.
Fktards.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:22 am
This game, the team should just go out there and have fun…if anyone can call it that! Start the youngans and see what we got moving forward…again, if you can call it that! It will probably black out again, with the only factor being that it IS a division game on wether it will or not.
Going all out for 8AM! Game time, who knows…probably just wish everyone a Happy Holidays and see you next season!
December 13th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Someone tried to smuggle a baby through airport security in the UAE and put the 5 month old baby in the carry-on and let it go through the x-ray machine….maybe the world will end soon.
Fktards.
WTF? Yeah, next Friday is the Mayan Apocalypse!
December 13th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Someone tried to smuggle a baby through airport security in the UAE and put the 5 month old baby in the carry-on and let it go through the x-ray machine….maybe the world will end soon.
Fktards.
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The baby should be taken away and the parents deemed unfit to live.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:26 am
641.The Big Banana Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Someone tried to smuggle a baby through airport security in the UAE and put the 5 month old baby in the carry-on and let it go through the x-ray machine….maybe the world will end soon.
Fktards.
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The baby should be taken away and the parents deemed unfit to live.
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It is probably America’s fault….
December 13th, 2012 at 9:27 am
(CNN) – An Egyptian couple has been charged with putting their child at risk and attempted smuggling after security officers at an airport in the United Arab Emirates found their 5-month-old boy hidden in a small handbag.
Police said the baby was discovered by an X-ray screening at Sharjah International Airport as the couple was traveling through the airport.
The infant is in good condition, police said.
According to Sharjah police, the couple arrived in the UAE last Friday but were not allowed to enter the country because they didn’t have a visa for the infant.
Missing baby locked in chest for 12 hours
The parents were told they had to wait two days at the airport until the visa office reopened so the boy’s documents could be processed.
On Saturday, the impatient father persuaded his wife to put the baby in their hand luggage in the hope airport security wouldn’t notice, police said.
“We were very surprised. This is the first time we have seen something like this,” police officer Abdel Rahman Shama told CNN. “Even if you are in a desperate situation, how can you put your child in a bag?”
The parents remain in the UAE under police questioning.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The old Baby in a handbag trick
December 13th, 2012 at 9:33 am
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It is probably America’s fault….
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It is White Devil.
You and your other white devil friends are responsible for most of the crap around the world.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:37 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Also, it’s Cocaine that makes the Cartels Rich, not so much weed. And i don’t see that being legalized ever so there’s really no solution to that.
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While it is true they make most of their money off coke, weed plays a huge roll in funding the whole operation. If we legalized pot and regulated it we could put a huge dent in the cartels effectiveness.
We are wasting our money in the war on drugs. AS long as there is demand (the American people ) we will never keep coke out of the states.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Oh darn, I thought it was Palmer’s fault! LOL
December 13th, 2012 at 9:38 am
WTF? Yeah, next Friday is the Mayan Apocalypse!
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Oops! I forgot to put that one on my social agenda. Calendar box is marked now. Thx.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Excellent post Jim.
We can charge fees and taxes, and we can eliminate a lot of costs by legalizing it.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Returning to football talk, it’s clear Kelly and Seymour ain’t coming back in 13 how about moving Matt Shaughnessy to the middle i mean:
1— He came to the league weghing 265lbs and he looks a lot bigger now i say 285lbs could add a few pounds to say 295.
2— He isn’t and never will be an speed rusher no matter his weight.
3— He clearly has lost a step.
4— He might not win many battles one on one but doesn’t get beat either.
5— He hustles to the end has a good initial quickness and still got good instincts, not to mention great motor.
Just a tought.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:45 am
War on drugs is a cash cow.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:48 am
650 – Yeah problem with Shaughnessy has more to do with fans expectations of him. He’s not a playmaker or difference maker, but a solid player. Same goes for Houston.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:50 am
If we had 11 Lamar Houston’s on the defense, we would be a hell of a lot better. What he lacks in pure talent he makes up for with his high motor.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Morning/ afternoon peoples!!!!!
What up Green party?!
WTF is smoking?
December 13th, 2012 at 9:51 am
ron69 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Returning to football talk, it’s clear Kelly and Seymour ain’t coming back in 13 how about moving Matt Shaughnessy to the middle i mean:
1— He came to the league weghing 265lbs and he looks a lot bigger now i say 285lbs could add a few pounds to say 295.
2— He isn’t and never will be an speed rusher no matter his weight.
3— He clearly has lost a step.
4— He might not win many battles one on one but doesn’t get beat either.
5— He hustles to the end has a good initial quickness and still got good instincts, not to mention great motor.
Just a tought.
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Simple resolution….
You have Shonasty switch to the other side. He’s clearly a base end, who holds the edge well.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I tremember before the season started being sooooo excited, and now I am just as excited for it to be over to see if “upper Management” is gonna get off theri ass and make some moves.
Oh the horrrah!!
Gotta see TP for most of the game.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Draft a pass rusher.
Move Houston to the middle.
Keep Bryant.
Move Shonasty to the other side.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:53 am
You should be our DC DMAC
Got my vote. Will you be able to function in dual roles?
December 13th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Whats up DMAC? Going on Sunday?
December 13th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Move Lamar inside to the 3 technique, Switch Matt over to Lamar’s end spot and have Desmond start. Then look for a Pass rush DE in the Draft or Stop gap FA.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:55 am
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Draft a pass rusher.
Move Houston to the middle.
Keep Bryant.
Move Shonasty to the other side.
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What he said.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I’d also like to See Tyvon Branch move to Free Saftey.
December 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Good morning Mr. Prez.
Vote Green in 2016!
December 13th, 2012 at 9:57 am
So it seems Im not the only person that thinks its time to unsheathe pryor
Rich Gannon — “Time to find out about Terrelle Pryor”
Dan Pompei — “It might be Terrelle Pryor time in Oakland. ”
both former athletes and media members are now clamoring for pryor to get his shot.
What do people think of carson palmer?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 8, 2012, 9:09 PM EST
Denver Broncos v Oakland Raiders Getty Images
With Raiders coach Dennis Allen that the time has come to see quarterback Terrelle Pryor play, the questions becomes whether Allen and the rest of the organization will soon be coming to the conclusion that quarterback Carson Palmer should not play.
Though Allen stopped short of suggesting that Palmer could be benched this season, in the offseason Palmer could, in theory, be cut.
Palmer, who arrived via trade in 2011, is due to earn a base salary of $13 million in 2013. The Raiders may decide that they can’t justify paying that much money to Palmer.
So unless Palmer takes less from the Raiders, he may get nothing and like it. Or nor like it. Either way, it’s hard to see him getting every penny he’s due to make next year.
Bob Glauber (Newsday, 32) — Raiders owe Carson Palmer $13 million next season. Doubt he’ll see that cash.
I couldnt agree more
December 13th, 2012 at 9:58 am
good day Mr.Prez and Mr.Vice Prez !!!
hows life at the top of the GreenParty ??
December 13th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Houston, Bryant, and ShoNicely are ALL 4-3 LDEs.
Switch to the 3-4 and you have 2 of the better DEs in the league in Houston and Bryant.
Trade Kelly and ShoNasty.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:02 am
666.J Hill Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Houston, Bryant, and ShoNicely are ALL 4-3 LDEs.
Switch to the 3-4 and you have 2 of the better DEs in the league in Houston and Bryant.
Trade Kelly and ShoNasty.
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Shaughnessy can play End in a 3-4. No need to trade, even though we can’t. Probably have to give up a draft pick in order to trade Kelly. Bryant can Play NT i’d like to think. But then it opens more holes in our LB’s
December 13th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Damn I hope Matt Barkley BLOWS UP in offseason workouts and the combine.
Maybe we get a nice package from Arizona to move up 3 spots.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Anyone catch the Marcus Allen football life episode on NFL network last night? That was tough to watch..made me cringe when they showed Al at Marcus’s HOF introduction…still would not shake the man’s hand even after Marcus thanked Al for drafting him. Then he made a sarcastic congrats comment to his Dad. Wow
December 13th, 2012 at 10:06 am
hwnrdr Says:
Too bad the last 2 years though…Marcus was wasted talent on the bench! After he went to KC, they were 9-1 against us! I hated those 5 years!!!
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KoolKell loved ‘em. Couldn’t stop talking about it last night. Got his Al hate on by proxy.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Salam Habibi!
Did you fall asleep in the blog? Heard it’s cold in here at night and weird people show up.
Wheres my bag? GDP! lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Still no JFB sighting ?
Getting worried about him.
Disagreed with JFB alot, but never found him disagreeable. Good guy.
Hope he’s OK.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
662.The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I’d also like to See Tyvon Branch move to Free Saftey.
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….you forgot to add “for the Broncos” to that sentence.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Mush fell off the wagon.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Still no JFB sighting ?
Getting worried about him.
Disagreed with JFB alot, but never found him disagreeable. Good guy.
Hope he’s OK.
I know…didn’t even answer mine and Brien’s calls last Thursday…I hope he’s good!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
M1st1c is like a stupid person that nobody listens to but he will never stop trying to convince people to think that he got a point lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:11 am
672.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Still no JFB sighting ?
Getting worried about him.
Disagreed with JFB alot, but never found him disagreeable. Good guy.
Hope he’s OK.
+++++++++++++++++++++
What happened?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Jhill
I think you are overestimating the production of Bryant and Sho. They are at best back ups.
My standard is beating teams like Baltimore, Packers and Patriots. Teams like we used to be.
It is still at least three years away but we will not get even close with most of our lineman.
The only keepers that I see are Wiz 2, Veldheer and Houston.
We need a massive infusion of young athletic rookies on the lineS.
True they will make some mistakes but they should be more durable and will certainly be more hungry.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
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I remember a rumor of MA messing with a married woman and doing coke…Some crap like that…
December 13th, 2012 at 10:14 am
yeah when he was at OJ’s house dude.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:14 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Whats up DMAC? Going on Sunday?
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Yes sir
December 13th, 2012 at 10:15 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:53 am
You should be our DC DMAC
Got my vote. Will you be able to function in dual roles?
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Yeah
IM a multi-tasker
I can smoke joints w/ my fellow Green party members and still call a better game them our bum ass coaches.
lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Dan78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
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I remember a rumor of MA messing with a married woman and doing coke…Some crap like that…
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??? Carol ???
December 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
M1st1c is like a stupid person that nobody listens to but he will never stop trying to convince people to think that he got a point lol
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why the insult macbootyjuice?
Those were not my words, dont shoot the messenger.
arent you a HUGE rich gannon fan? You disagree with hi or find him a less than credible source?
Lol..truth hurts doesnt it impostor fan
December 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
673.Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
662.The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I’d also like to See Tyvon Branch move to Free Saftey.
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….you forgot to add “for the Broncos” to that sentence.
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Well before this season i thought that would be ideal for someone with his speed and solo tackling ability. But he has gotten worse in his angles and coverage. But i still think he’s salvageable.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 9:58 am
good day Mr.Prez and Mr.Vice Prez !!!
hows life at the top of the GreenParty ??
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ODB!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Dan78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
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I remember a rumor of MA messing with a married woman and doing coke…Some crap like that…
I remember someone in here made me spit up my coffee…someone mentioned that he was trying to fool around with Al’s wife, and then someone commented that Marcus got mad because Run Run beat him to it….LMAO!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Dan78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
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I remember a rumor of MA messing with a married woman and doing coke…Some crap like that…
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If that was the case then he’d have to hate everyone who played for him in the 70’s and 80’s. Probably more to it.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:19 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Dan78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
——-
I remember a rumor of MA messing with a married woman and doing coke…Some crap like that…
I remember someone in here made me spit up my coffee…someone mentioned that he was trying to fool around with Al’s wife, and then someone commented that Marcus got mad because Run Run beat him to it….LMAO!
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??? wonder if she took her teeth out ???
hhhuuummmmmm !!!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Charlie,
I thought Bryant looked best last year filling in at RDE and LDE. I said WOW on more that one occasion. Not quite fast enough to be a consistent RDE, imo. I agree that he is a backup DT, but I think he could be a pretty good 3-4 DE.
I agree with you on ShoNasty being a backup player at this point behind Bryant and Houston. I think we might be able to get a draft pick for him though. Maybe a 4th.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:20 am
LMAO Mike!!!
For who? MA or Run Run???
December 13th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Insults for breakfast? At least let’s get through lunch!
=)
December 13th, 2012 at 10:21 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:19 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Dan78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marcus did something that only Al knows…but it is what it is…
——-
I remember a rumor of MA messing with a married woman and doing coke…Some crap like that…
I remember someone in here made me spit up my coffee…someone mentioned that he was trying to fool around with Al’s wife, and then someone commented that Marcus got mad because Run Run beat him to it….LMAO!
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??? wonder if she took her teeth out ???
hhhuuummmmmm !!!
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lol
Tag team w/ Betty?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:21 am
J Heezy!!!!!!
What up mayne?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:22 am
How about dem DUBS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Dudes
Don’t start on Betty White yo!
She is one talented, fine Hizzyy. LOL
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
lol DMAC !! only in a perfect world !!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I can see the Dubs having success like the Oakland A’s did this last season. They’re a bunch of youngsters having fun and they’re not intimidated by anyone. Lots of unselfish players on the team. Their believing in their selves and buying in. Playoffs here we come. Dubs for life!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
M1st1c is like a stupid person that nobody listens to but he will never stop trying to convince people to think that he got a point lol
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why the insult macbootyjuice?
Those were not my words, dont shoot the messenger.
arent you a HUGE rich gannon fan? You disagree with hi or find him a less than credible source?
Lol..truth hurts doesnt it impostor fan
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Dude let it go LOL, the more you keep on saying the same thing over and over doesn’t give it more credibility, and coaching staff will decide what’s best for them and play guys accordingly lol, they ain’t listening to you old man
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Is Bogut still hurt?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
lol DMAC !! only in a perfect world !!
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I know huh
You would probably knock the dust out that p*ssy!!!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:25 am
coaching staff will decide what’s best for them and play guys accordingly
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That doesn’t sound encouraging
December 13th, 2012 at 10:27 am
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
lol DMAC !! only in a perfect world !!
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I know huh
You would probably knock the dust out that p*ssy!!!!!!
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HE11 YEAH !!!
lick the fur off of it !!! lol lol lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:28 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Is Bogut still hurt?
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yeah
December 13th, 2012 at 10:28 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
M1st1c is like a stupid person that nobody listens to but he will never stop trying to convince people to think that he got a point lol
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why the insult macbootyjuice?
Those were not my words, dont shoot the messenger.
arent you a HUGE rich gannon fan? You disagree with hi or find him a less than credible source?
Lol..truth hurts doesnt it impostor fan
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Dude let it go LOL, the more you keep on saying the same thing over and over doesn’t give it more credibility, and coaching staff will decide what’s best for them and play guys accordingly lol, they ain’t listening to you old man
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I didnt say it lol
rich gannon, and mike florio did.
I agree with them though and i have known since the day captain bungles landed in oakland.
You drank the kool aid and now you can drown in it
your hero is a basket case sad sack loser that needs to find the nearest coach to retire to
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:25 am
coaching staff will decide what’s best for them and play guys accordingly
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That doesn’t sound encouraging
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What you mean it doesn’t sound encouraging? They will give guys chance when they show something in practice, Adams got his oppurtunity,he will probably start the game, Streater has stepped up, he will be ready to start games next year if we bring back same group, they won’t just give guys chances if they think it will only hurt them or in games we’re behind , they don’t want to hurt TP by asking him to do too much, as much as they want to see what players do , they want to protect them too
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Free TP6!!!!
There couldn’t be a better game this weekend for him to show what he has to offer.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Can you imagine Run Run beating Marcus to the punch? LOL…
You guys do know who Run Run is, right?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Still hated to see Al bring in a washed up Dickerson and Craig. rather. Than give the ball to Marcus. All of his team mates loved the guy. I think Al got pissed because Marcus became bigger than the Raiders just like Gruden.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:30 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Nothing to get excited about????…me and all my Raider buds are excited, theres a home game in four days…huge tailgate,..then playing our biggest rivals,…no excitement?…speak for yourself.
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Really? All pumped up for the Suck Bowl, are ya?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Jhill
It would be nice to get a package to move down in the first round but we need a second rounder in exchange.
It would be nice to get a top ten Dlineman but two dlineman in the top 60 is what we need now given our excessive deterioration.
That leaves us with a 3rd rounder for an OT.
If Bergstrom can take a guard spot (Carlisle retiring) we at least are substantially better on both lines with much less money involved.
Kelly, Seymour, Barnes, McClain and Shaunessy are gone while freeing up much needed cap space.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:28 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
M1st1c is like a stupid person that nobody listens to but he will never stop trying to convince people to think that he got a point lol
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why the insult macbootyjuice?
Those were not my words, dont shoot the messenger.
arent you a HUGE rich gannon fan? You disagree with hi or find him a less than credible source?
Lol..truth hurts doesnt it impostor fan
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Dude let it go LOL, the more you keep on saying the same thing over and over doesn’t give it more credibility, and coaching staff will decide what’s best for them and play guys accordingly lol, they ain’t listening to you old man
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I didnt say it lol
rich gannon, and mike florio did.
I agree with them though and i have known since the day captain bungles landed in oakland.
You drank the kool aid and now you can drown in it
your hero is a basket case sad sack loser that needs to find the nearest coach to retire to
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I don’t care what you want to think, there is no agenda from other Raiders fans, I will cheer for every single player, only guys i hated were Moss, Sapp and now Seymour and some what Mcfadden, lol just freaking stop already with this silly comments lol , you are just putting yourself for ridicule when/if Pryor flops and believe me it won’t be from me ,I like all our players to succeed, it will be from everyone else who you disagree with 24/7 in here
December 13th, 2012 at 10:36 am
R8drinOK Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Still hated to see Al bring in a washed up Dickerson and Craig. rather. Than give the ball to Marcus. All of his team mates loved the guy. I think Al got pissed because Marcus became bigger than the Raiders just like Gruden.
Yup…like Marcus said, if you don’t like me, let me go!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Whats the word on Vegas???
Is the Nation concerned?
Hope he isn’t in Santa Rita.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:37 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Salam Habibi!
Did you fall asleep in the blog? Heard it’s cold in here at night and weird people show up.
Wheres my bag? GDP! lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
I was watching a show about M Allen on NFLN. Great show btw.
No more GDP bro. I smoked it all yesterday lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:38 am
DMAC, you remember, me and Brien tried calling him…no answer. I hope he’s good!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:39 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Can you imagine Run Run beating Marcus to the punch? LOL…
You guys do know who Run Run is, right?
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lol lol … yes i remember him hwnrdr !!
the oldest and slowest waterboy ever !! lol lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Not a big mystery regarding Mr Davis and Marcus.
Mr Davis felt it was a PRIVELEGE to be associated with the Raiders. He was old school. Red Aurebach with the Celtics was the same way.
In defense of Mr Davis he paid players in the top quartile of what was typical in the day BUT HE EXPECTED MAXIMUM LOYALTY!!!!!
Marcus got involved in some contract issues that left Mr Davis feeling disrespected. For as loyal as Mr Davis could be, he could also be vindictive to a fault.
It also happened with Gruden and the salary Jon wanted.
Dave Casper and Snake also ran into this in their later years. Mr Davis had a hard time letting go of players when they played at HIS PRICE. He would become very nasty if he felt a player was being greedy.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Jesusraiderjim Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Dudes
Don’t start on Betty White yo!
She is one talented, fine Hizzyy. LOL
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ODB is a cross poster?
LMAO
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
less than 2 months before offseason, yeah baby, Lets get Damontre Moore DE
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
take care nation
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
lol lol .. dont think so … just sounds like Jim likes the well seasoned(and dusty) ones too !!! lol lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Cam newton vs terrelle pryor
Cam and pryor were both unbelievable athletes in college, easily able to outrun and over power defenders, and were the best players on the field every saturday.
Cam was a far more polished passer in college, and this is where I would often give cam the edge when people used to compare them.
Even though many thought cam would never make it, i saw a kid with a beautiful nfl ready arm, that only needed to refine his mechanics.
Pryor on the other hand struck me as a kid that did not make enough progress as a passer in college. We now know that partly tressel’s offense was ony designed to let pryor beat teams with his world class athleticism, and not much time was put into polishing pryor for the pro game. We also know that pryor was immature and may not have put in all of the effort he could have to maximize his talent and time as a buckeye.
pryor left school and joined the nfl almost through the back door, and was immediately smacked with a dubious suspension. he was humbled and went to work.
Watching him in the pre season, he worked out that throwing motin and was much better with his feet in the pocket. What really jumped out though is that almost every single pass he made was thrown into SINGLE COVERAGE. he was able to make the right reads and identify where to go with the football, and that is huge.
pryor doesnt need to be the flashy passer that newton or griffin is. pryor can adapt a game managment style of low risk football, because of his electric play making ability.
I would be happy to pryor keep the turn overs to a minimum even if it meant taking a few less risk, and complete in the neighbor hood of 55% of his pass attempts. this would be very good for a qb seeing his first nfl game action.
i now believe that although he isnt the passer that newton is he is good enough, and will get better with time. we already know they favor running the ball, with pryor having a bit more speed, and newton with a bit more size.
Im certain davis and big mack will pay very very very close attention to newton when he is on the field in a couple of weeks. i hope pryor can do enough in this upcoming game to get more snaps ( the really should start him) vs the panthers.
pryor is a special talent like newton or rgIII, the kind of qb that can score a td on any snap from any point on the field, with his arm or his legs.
Get the kid on the field already….geeez
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Charlie, you got a point! But someimes I feel there was something more than that!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Every morning I wake up wondering if Miss tick has changed his mind about Carson Palmer and Terrell Pryor. But not for long.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:44 am
13.RaiderLen Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
I presume Rolando is being kept around for business reasons.
Hopefully we won’t have these sorts of issues with High picks in the future.
Tp can be seen locally via the web. ATDHE I believe.
^^^^^^^^^
Yeah. McLain is being kept around for two reasons. To not give him what he wants and to hopefully get a draft pick out of some team around draft time.
This team is going nowehere with DA, Knapp, Tarver and Hoffman.
I like Tarver, think he has upside. He is not ready to be a a pro DC yet though, just like DA is not ready to be a pro head coach.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 am
714.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:36 am
R8drinOK Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Still hated to see Al bring in a washed up Dickerson and Craig. rather. Than give the ball to Marcus. All of his team mates loved the guy. I think Al got pissed because Marcus became bigger than the Raiders just like Gruden.
Yup…like Marcus said, if you don’t like me, let me go!
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Could have traded him for a better QB than Marc Wilson, or Jay Scrotum!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:46 am
The way DA and Knapp have not used Pryor at all as a weapon and to mix it up on offense and keep D’s off balance is a joke as well.
So many mistakes by this coaching staff, starting with the unecessary change of offensive scheme and not using TP at all.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:47 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
lol lol .. dont think so … just sounds like Jim likes the well seasoned(and dusty) ones too !!! lol lol
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lmao
December 13th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Game of the week, Pats vs niners! I got 600 on Pats
Hope they tear up the niners
December 13th, 2012 at 10:49 am
marcus vs davis/
This is simple guys.
marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.
Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.
This is the real reason for the feud.
davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.
Old news
December 13th, 2012 at 10:49 am
721.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
less than 2 months before offseason, yeah baby, Lets get Damontre Moore DE
^^^^^^^^^
I want Te’o, Moore, Star, or Werner to be Raiders.
I would not mind Tyler Wilson either to be considered.
If the pick is a top 3 pick, McK should seriously try and trade down about 5 or 6 slots though.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:51 am
703.The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:25 am
coaching staff will decide what’s best for them and play guys accordingly
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That doesn’t sound encouraging
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Sure doesn’t! Ugh
December 13th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Funny thing about that one Mistc…who is Davis’ daughter? I heard that one too…and I think that is where the Run Run comment came into play…lol
December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am
719.Charlie Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Not a big mystery regarding Mr Davis and Marcus.
Mr Davis felt it was a PRIVELEGE to be associated with the Raiders. He was old school. Red Aurebach with the Celtics was the same way.
In defense of Mr Davis he paid players in the top quartile of what was typical in the day BUT HE EXPECTED MAXIMUM LOYALTY!!!!!
Marcus got involved in some contract issues that left Mr Davis feeling disrespected. For as loyal as Mr Davis could be, he could also be vindictive to a fault.
It also happened with Gruden and the salary Jon wanted.
Dave Casper and Snake also ran into this in their later years. Mr Davis had a hard time letting go of players when they played at HIS PRICE. He would become very nasty if he felt a player was being greedy.
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Great post Charlie, what’s crazy is Al was throwing cash around at players no where near the caliber of Snake, Casper and Allen the last 12 years of his life. Love Al but man I think his grudge matches prevented the Raiders from winning some additional Super bowls.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
13 million for Palmer sounds crazy. It’s out of line.
If I’m RM, I ask him to take a significant cut. I’m talking about a 40% pay cut.
Palmer won’t be happy. Probably won’t agree to that large of a cut.
Anyone know what kind of guaranteed money we owe CP ?
Either way, if CP doesn’t want to accept a more reasonable salary – that leaves two options.
Cut him or trade him.
Trade would be preferable of course, but honestly we’re not going to be able to get much in return unless he agrees to take less dough elsewhere.
QBs are at a premium in the NFL, and you never want to dump a good one.
But the Raids have to accept the reality that they’re a 4 win team with CP.
That same type of unacceptable result can be obtained for far less money.
The question that needs to be asked is, if you keep CP and his bloated salary around – can he get the Raids to 10 wins ? Is he a guy that will still be capable of playing at a high level, in say, 2014, with a presumably better supporting cast ?
My personal opinion is that it’s really not feasible to have a long term strategy built around CP.
Problem is I don’t see a viable alternative at this time.
Having said that, I would not be opposed to rolling the dice and bringing in guys who will probably turn out to be ’stop-gaps’ until a franchise QB is finally, mercifully obtained.
We’ve got to rebuild the defense and can Krapp to get competitive. That’s with or without Palmer.
We’re still gonna need a franchise QB to win Lombardis.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:58 am
732.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:49 am
marcus vs davis/
This is simple guys.
marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.
Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.
This is the real reason for the feud.
davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.
Old news
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What the H*ll? Mystic your black vs white racial BS has no bounds man. Go back to talking about the greatness of Pryor over Palmer. By the way I’m pulling for Pryor but you better be ready to reap the whirlwind if he stinks it up Sunday because right now everyone but you knows Carson is a better QB.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:04 am
737.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
13 million for Palmer sounds crazy. It’s out of line.
If I’m RM, I ask him to take a significant cut. I’m talking about a 40% pay cut.
Palmer won’t be happy. Probably won’t agree to that large of a cut.
Anyone know what kind of guaranteed money we owe CP ?
Either way, if CP doesn’t want to accept a more reasonable salary – that leaves two options.
Cut him or trade him.
Trade would be preferable of course, but honestly we’re not going to be able to get much in return unless he agrees to take less dough elsewhere.
QBs are at a premium in the NFL, and you never want to dump a good one.
But the Raids have to accept the reality that they’re a 4 win team with CP.
That same type of unacceptable result can be obtained for far less money.
The question that needs to be asked is, if you keep CP and his bloated salary around – can he get the Raids to 10 wins ? Is he a guy that will still be capable of playing at a high level, in say, 2014, with a presumably better supporting cast ?
My personal opinion is that it’s really not feasible to have a long term strategy built around CP.
Problem is I don’t see a viable alternative at this time.
Having said that, I would not be opposed to rolling the dice and bringing in guys who will probably turn out to be ’stop-gaps’ until a franchise QB is finally, mercifully obtained.
We’ve got to rebuild the defense and can Krapp to get competitive. That’s with or without Palmer.
We’re still gonna need a franchise QB to win Lombardis.
^^^^^^^^
Hmm…CP is still far better than over half the QB’s in the league.
If this team had a legit running game and a decent defense, CP would look that much better because it would equal more wins.
This is why I get so agitated with Hue being prematurely let go.
Hue made this team an effective running team and the passing game was unpredictable and explosive.
All that was needed was an improved defense.
But rookie owner Davis and rookie GM decided to tear it all down and try and completely rebuild when it didn’t need to be done.
Then hiring a young rookie head coach to replace a guy who was a better rookie head coach were just all bad moves.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:06 am
737.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
13 million for Palmer sounds crazy. It’s out of line.
If I’m RM, I ask him to take a significant cut. I’m talking about a 40% pay cut.
Palmer won’t be happy. Probably won’t agree to that large of a cut.
Anyone know what kind of guaranteed money we owe CP ?
Either way, if CP doesn’t want to accept a more reasonable salary – that leaves two options.
Cut him or trade him.
Trade would be preferable of course, but honestly we’re not going to be able to get much in return unless he agrees to take less dough elsewhere.
QBs are at a premium in the NFL, and you never want to dump a good one.
But the Raids have to accept the reality that they’re a 4 win team with CP.
That same type of unacceptable result can be obtained for far less money.
The question that needs to be asked is, if you keep CP and his bloated salary around – can he get the Raids to 10 wins ? Is he a guy that will still be capable of playing at a high level, in say, 2014, with a presumably better supporting cast ?
My personal opinion is that it’s really not feasible to have a long term strategy built around CP.
Problem is I don’t see a viable alternative at this time.
Having said that, I would not be opposed to rolling the dice and bringing in guys who will probably turn out to be ’stop-gaps’ until a franchise QB is finally, mercifully obtained.
We’ve got to rebuild the defense and can Krapp to get competitive. That’s with or without Palmer.
We’re still gonna need a franchise QB to win Lombardis.
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Hmm…CP is still far better than over half the QB’s in the league.
If this team had a legit running game and a decent defense, CP would look that much better because it would equal more wins.
This is why I get so agitated with Hue being prematurely let go.
Hue made this team an effective running team and the passing game was unpredictable and explosive.
All that was needed was an improved defense.
But rookie owner Davis and rookie GM decided to tear it all down and try and completely rebuild when it didn’t need to be done.
Then hiring a young rookie head coach to replace a guy who was a better rookie head coach and then the new rookie head coach hiring a bad retread like Knapp to change offensive systems when it didn’t need to be changed and all of those bad moves, got this franchise and team in the terrible position it is today.
Lousy!
December 13th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Oh well.
Now this team needs to draft good to great players on D and try and find a solid RT.
Letting Satele go was a bad move also.
Brisiel has stunk for the money given to him.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
R8drinOK Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Still hated to see Al bring in a washed up Dickerson and Craig. rather. Than give the ball to Marcus. All of his team mates loved the guy. I think Al got pissed because Marcus became bigger than the Raiders just like Gruden.
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He didn’t care about being bigger than the raiders. Bo Jackson was bigger than any athlete at that time and Al called Bo to wish him happy birthday every year until he died
December 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
No question that after our 2012 Super Bowl loss, Mr Davis should have turned the reigns over to a GM.
He clearly lost the ability to draft well although much of that blame also falls on the antiquated scouting staff that we employed. (It still gets back to Davis).
What is interesting to note that it was the TANDEM of Ron Wolf and Davis that made the Raiders great. Those two laid the foundation of perhaps the greatest Olines ever to be assembled. (Many of you may not be old enough to realize that in the Immaculate reception game the Raiders started 4 Hall of Fame O lineman:)
Shell, Upshaw, Otto AND Bob Brown(spent most of his years with the Eagles). George Buehler at RG was the only non HOF player. I do not think that ever has been or will be done again.
The problem was we were going against perhaps the greatest Dline assembled as well.
That was not an accident. All teams in the AFC at that time knew that if you could not beat Oakland’s OLINE you would not beat Oakland.
Perhaps you guys now might better understand my passion for building both lines but especially the Oilne.
With a dominant Oline you will win the majority of your games.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Sorry, 2002 Super Bowl loss.