McClain still running with scout team
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 13th, 2012 at 11:50 am in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain is at practice for the second straight day since his return from a two-game suspension for conduct detrimental to the team. Don’t count on seeing him on the field anytime soon.
McClain was spotted wearing a green beanie over his helmet, a designation used to indicate that he is a player on the scout team.
Coach Dennis Allen said Wednesday that McClain will be a backup linebacker and special teams player. It’s conceivable that McClain won’t even be active for any of Oakland’s remaining three games.
It seems logical that the Raiders are holding on to McClain until teams are allowed to trade in the offseason, at which point they can attempt to get a draft pick in return.
– Strong safety Tyvon Branch is the only player not at practice today. He’s still nursing ankle and neck injuries.
– No word from the Raiders yet on whether Sunday’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs sold enough tickets for the game to be televised locally.
Six of Oakland’s first seven regular-season games were televised locally. It’s a stretch to envision the Raiders selling at leasat 85 percent of the tickets for this game, considering the Raiders are 3-10 and the Chiefs 2-11.
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December 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
1 Nation!!
December 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
WOW
December 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
2 Chainz!
December 13th, 2012 at 11:52 am
manny would be killed by mayweather.
manny has never had the skill to deal with a slick foot work speedy counter puncher and mayweather is still the best in the biz in this regard.
arm screwed up and they should have made that fight before the bradly flap.
Now with this devastating knock out loss, brace yourself for manny marquez 5 unless marquez can make n more money fighting another opponent that favors his style
December 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I got 5 on it!
December 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Free TP6!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
75.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Somebody has hijacked my handle again….yawn
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Not buying that for a second.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I don’t see anyone trading for McClain if they know the Raiders won’t keep him on next season.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Running with the scout team is what you do right before you start golfing with the guys no longer in the league.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
75.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Somebody has hijacked my handle again….yawn
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Not buying that for a second.
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who cares if you buy it
it happens all of the time in here, cross posters have hijacked handles for years.
it has happened to kk, preist , me, seymour bush and so on
December 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am
8.The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I don’t see anyone trading for McClain if they know the Raiders won’t keep him on next season.
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If a team like the Patriots or Ravens wanted him, they may be willing to give up the late round pick, because it is unlikely that McClain would clear waivers, or even fall that far to them.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:58 am
So folks in here have gotten in the habit of making outlandish statements then claiming their handle was hijacked? Lol. Smh
December 13th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I don’t see anyone trading for McClain if they know the Raiders won’t keep him on next season.
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Is McClain worth a 7th rounder? Sure. So, someone will trade for him and if one or more 3/4 teams would be interested, then you can get some value for him. Remember this is a guy who was supposed to be a marquee defender on a National Championship Team. He most likely had low lst or high 2nd round value coming out of college, and probably still can command 4th or 5th round value I would think.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:58 am
December 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
manny would be killed by mayweather.
manny has never had the skill to deal with a slick foot work speedy counter puncher and mayweather is still the best in the biz in this reagrd.
arm screwed up and they should have made that fight before the bradly flap.
Now with this devastating knock out loss, brace yourself for manny marquez 5 unless marquez can make n more money fighting anothe opponent that favors his style
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my $ would be on May, but a couple things:
pac bashed De La hoya and Cotto
mayweather controversially beat De la hoya and got a run for his $ vs Cotto
Pacquiao is a faster stronger cotto. I would love to see how May would have respnded.
actually they still should fight because BOTH have lost a step and Pac actually looked good before he got knocked out. Possible that Pac will never be the same, but if he recovers fully, would be great
December 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
11.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am
8.The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I don’t see anyone trading for McClain if they know the Raiders won’t keep him on next season.
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If a team like the Patriots or Ravens wanted him, they may be willing to give up the late round pick, because it is unlikely that McClain would clear waivers, or even fall that far to them.
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Hopefully, but at the same time, McClain has been in the league long enough for every team and Coach to witness him getting ran over first hand.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Oh I believe those guys have had their accounts hijacked, even Mistic. I just dont buy for a second that it happened in this instance.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Put 55 in the middle of the pats 3-4 next to Brandon Spikes with Wilfork in the middle eating up 3 blockers… You wont see McClain getting run over.
Give him a team with structure and leadership, and you wont see him jogging either.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I hate that excuse, Bcz…I will still not excuse Moss for that crap!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Wow, the Scout Team, has to wear green beannies over their helmets? Damn. Lol.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
No question that after our 2002 Super Bowl loss, Mr Davis should have turned the reigns over to a GM.
He clearly lost the ability to draft well although much of that blame also falls on the antiquated scouting staff that we employed. (It still gets back to Davis).
What is interesting to note that it was the TANDEM of Ron Wolf and Davis that made the Raiders great. Those two laid the foundation of perhaps the greatest Olines ever to be assembled. (Many of you may not be old enough to realize that in the Immaculate reception game the Raiders started 4 Hall of Fame O lineman:)
Shell, Upshaw, Otto AND Bob Brown(spent most of his years with the Eagles). George Buehler at RG was the only non HOF player. I do not think that ever has been or will be done again.
The problem was we were going against perhaps the greatest Dline assembled as well.
That was not an accident. All teams in the AFC at that time knew that if you could not beat Oakland’s OLINE you would not beat Oakland.
Perhaps you guys now might better understand my passion for building both lines but especially the Oilne.
With a dominant Oline you will win the majority of your games.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Put 55 in the middle of the pats 3-4 next to Brandon Spikes with Wilfork in the middle eating up 3 blockers… You wont see McClain getting run over.
Give him a team with structure and leadership, and you wont see him jogging either.
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And get another Miles Burris or Desmond Bishop type player later in the draft and we have improved our team as well.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Trade McJogger for a beanie baby.
Make a child happy for Christmas.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
“McClain was spotted wearing a green beanie over his helmet, a designation used to indicate that he is a player on the scout team.”
Bwahahahahahaha, McLain getting punked in front of everyone. Might as well be a dunce cap.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I have been preaching OLINE/PASS RUSH..
But you have to look and see the past few SB winners havent had a great OLINE..
But they did have elite pass rush..
So now its PASS RUSH/OLINE ‘13
December 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The problem with McClain and that beanine…is he really helping?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
100% agreed Hwnrdr. There is no excuse for lazy
December 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
pats would definitely trade for him, he’s a first round talent. this just isn’t the place for him nor do i want him. and there’s a difference between a guy like rolando who is talented has off the field issues and doens’t play hard and a guy like aqib who is talented has off the field issues but still plays hard
December 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
1-Dion Jordan
2-Corey Lemonier
3-Kyle Long
GET IT DONE!!…
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Lol. Dunce cap. Priceless.
He’s being humiliated.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Kyle Long? Is that Howies other boy?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
And if McClain is salvagable.. Im all for it.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Missdick was embarrassed and claimed his handle was hijacked. Can we get a green beanie for missdick?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Oline is important, but not like it was 15 years ago. Can you tell me the lat SB winner that DID have a dominant OL? 04 Patriots maybe?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Missdick was embarrassed and claimed his handle was hijacked. Can we get a green beanie for missdick?
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Do you have any Raider takes, dumbass troll?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Oline is important, but not like it was 15 years ago. Can you tell me the lat SB winner that DID have a dominant OL? 04 Patriots maybe?
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Agreed.
Dont turn the ball over. Rush the QB. Slow the run. You win.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
DA and Reggie making Rolando act the running back on scout team, then making him run out this Sunday on special teams is beautiful…the punk thought he could just act up, get released with pay,..not so fast.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Jordan/Lemonier
McClain
Wheeler
Burris/Burnett
Houston/Bilukidi
NT
Bryant/Shaunghessy
December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Rolando tried to act tough to the coach and GM,..however without a gun hes not at all a badass,…hes got no football talent, no athletic ability,..just an illiterate bich with a gun…will be in prison in the south somewhere within 3 years. Forgotten.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Yeah Dr_rob, as one Doc to another, I got a client who has a real nasty drip, a back door drip if you will. We’ve tried several types of plugs, but the leaking still occurs. Any ideas would be helpful. Since this is a medical concern, your confidentiality would be appreciated.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Oline is important, but not like it was 15 years ago. Can you tell me the lat SB winner that DID have a dominant OL? 04 Patriots maybe?
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Thats fine and dandy, but look at the QB’s behind those mediocre Oline.
Brady
Rodgers…..and so on and so on
December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@DennisAllensVisor
eye on any Wheeler type FA for next year?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
32.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
And if McClain is salvagable.. Im all for it.
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Salvageable? Doesn’t that mean that there was once something worthwhile there? Can’t salvage trash.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Wheeler
Gaither
Burris
Jordan
Houston
Bryant
Shaughnessy/Lemonier
December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@DennisAllensVisor
eye on any Wheeler type FA for next year?
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No more scrubs of other teams’ scrapheaps!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The biggest move Reg makes in the offseason is getting Alex Smith,…Palmer and Pryor bout to be let go,..Leinert will back up Smith. It will work.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:58 am
December 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
manny would be killed by mayweather.
manny has never had the skill to deal with a slick foot work speedy counter puncher and mayweather is still the best in the biz in this reagrd.
arm screwed up and they should have made that fight before the bradly flap.
Now with this devastating knock out loss, brace yourself for manny marquez 5 unless marquez can make n more money fighting anothe opponent that favors his style
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my $ would be on May, but a couple things:
pac bashed De La hoya and Cotto
mayweather controversially beat De la hoya and got a run for his $ vs Cotto
Pacquiao is a faster stronger cotto. I would love to see how May would have respnded.
actually they still should fight because BOTH have lost a step and Pac actually looked good before he got knocked out. Possible that Pac will never be the same, but if he recovers fully, would be great
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styles make fights
pac man is a pressure fighter so his style wore down those guys a bit faster than mayweather, as maywether is more defensive and tends to counter instead of lead.
Pac man has faded badly over the last two years money has not.
Money has slowed down but his technique is so clean it allowed him to change his style from constant movement to that moves only when necessary but will defend while in the pocket and counter punch. he now sit on his punches and punches much harder
Manny’s style is tailor made for maywetaher to counter, and his stamina does not allow him to throw the overwhelming amount of punches any longer. Pac mans technique though vastly improved isnt clean enough to penetrate moneys defense.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
32.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
And if McClain is salvagable.. Im all for it.
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Salvageable? Doesn’t that mean that there was once something worthwhile there? Can’t salvage trash.
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Well, truth be told he has been played out of poistion his whole time here. The Raiders have failed him, and many others.
He has been an immature kid for sure. Effort and attitude have been crap.
But id like to see him in a 3-4 if his relations with the team are repairable.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Smith is garbage, but might be salvageable w/ Norv as his OC.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The biggest move Reg makes in the offseason is getting Alex Smith,…Palmer and Pryor bout to be let go,..Leinert will back up Smith. It will work.
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Biggest move should be getting Norv Turner.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
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See the schtt black QBs have to deal with???
December 13th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
But id like to see him in a 3-4 if his relations with the team are repairable.
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It won’t be with this team.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
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See the schtt black QBs have to deal with???
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Newsflash: Jamarcus Russell still sucks.
Deal with it, fool.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
36.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Oline is important, but not like it was 15 years ago. Can you tell me the lat SB winner that DID have a dominant OL? 04 Patriots maybe?
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Agreed.
Dont turn the ball over. Rush the QB. Slow the run. You win.
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Rush the QB and slow the run…..are you not therefore suggesting that an o-line is important? Lol Don’t you have to stop other teams from getting to your QB and slowing your run game?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The biggest move Reg makes in the offseason is getting Alex Smith,…Palmer and Pryor bout to be let go,..Leinert will back up Smith. It will work.
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Yeah, Jerry & Cork have been trying to get rid of you for years. That hasn’t worked out either. Lmao.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
207.Dan78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Reggie flushed this season down the toilet the minute he agreed to have Knapp and Tarver as coordinators
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When Reggie let his rookie inexperienced head coach hire a terrible retread as OC and a young inexperienced DC also.
Bad moves all around.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
I’m impressed with Phillip Adams.
He seems to possess a key quality absent from our CB’s for years…he has an eye for the ball and looks to make a play.
In the past, our corners would not make that int. against Manning cuz they would still be staring at the WR instead.
Did he make the int against Cleveland too?
Who was the guy that made the int against KC? I know Adams made one of those.
At any rate might we be looking at Shawntae Spencer and Adams as our starting corners in 2013?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Spencer was our best CB before going down w/ an injury. Interesting to see how Reggie handles this.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
i always thought mayweather would have beaten pacman because he’s a faster stronger marquez but i have much more respect for pacman because he fought everybody, even giving his toughest opponent marquez four fights (by the way marquez won the 1st and 4th, 2nd I lean Marquez third I lean Pacquiao but 2nd and 3rd could have been draws).
When you compare common opponents Mayweather i believe lost to De La Hoya who was the champ at the time and the aggressor while Pac pummelled him. Cotto gave Mayweather all he could handle while Pac similarly pumelled him. Mayweather on the other hand toyed with Marquez while Pac had his hands full
When you marvel Mayweathers controversially unblemished record however, remember that Roberto Duran was 70 and 1, while Julio Caesar Chavez went 89 -0 and these guys fought the best guys out there and went up in weight several times
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Mayweather clearly beat De La Hoya idk why it was even a split decision win. Mayweather fought a different style of fight against Cotto. Look at the 12th round when the victory was clearly in hand, Mayweather took the fight to the center of the ring and dominated. Mayweather would have destroyed Pacquiao in their primes, Mayweather is the best counter puncher and defensive fighter in the game, Pac would have been eating check right hands all night. JCC clearly lost to Whittaker and Duran was destroyed by Hearns so i don’t understand your points
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Kyle Long is the best athlete in the long family, however he is a very raw football. He played 3 year of collage baseball and only played 2 years of collage football. He thought he was going to pitch in MLB but it turns out he has more of a NFL body. He played D-line for one season and is playing O-line this year for the Ducks. He is very raw but has a high celing. He will most likely be a RT in the NFL. Kyle Long should be a 3rd round pick but it is hard to say where he will be picked. Some say in the 2nd round cuz he is a Long & great athele, some say in the 4th because he is so raw and he got a DUI and bad grades his 2nd year. However he has done well in school and has not gotten in trouble since. If he is around when the Raiders pick in the 3rd, We should get young Long!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RockinRaider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
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See the schtt black QBs have to deal with???
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Newsflash: Jamarcus Russell still sucks.
Deal with it, fool.
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And you never provided the links I asked you for dork. You’re clueless.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
207.Dan78 Says:
December 12th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Reggie flushed this season down the toilet the minute he agreed to have Knapp and Tarver as coordinators
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When Reggie let his rookie inexperienced head coach hire a terrible retread as OC and a young inexperienced DC also.
Bad moves all around.
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Hopefully Reggie learns from his mistakes.
All will be forgiven by me, if he can correct those mistakes.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Drafting a top OL within the top 5 picks does not equate to having a successful OLINE.
Look at all the good teams in the league. Most don’t have a top 5 pick on their OLine.
It’s about good coaching, implementing proper schemes that fit the talent and getting the OLine to play as a unit. All that equates to success.
I say a big NO to the Raiders using their top 3 pick on an OLinemen!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Hey Kell,
How can you tell all the cross-posting trolls?
I mean, what do they have to hide?
Cowards?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Duran was destroyed by Hearns so i don’t understand your points
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I was at that fight @ Ceasars.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
36.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Oline is important, but not like it was 15 years ago. Can you tell me the lat SB winner that DID have a dominant OL? 04 Patriots maybe?
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Agreed.
Dont turn the ball over. Rush the QB. Slow the run. You win.
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Rush the QB and slow the run…..are you not therefore suggesting that an o-line is important? Lol Don’t you have to stop other teams from getting to your QB and slowing your run game?
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I was thinking about that as I typed..
Looks wierd.. But you get the point.
Like the Packers…Elite Pass Rush, Decent Run D, horrible Oline… SUPER BOWL.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
How do u change your username w/out making another acct.?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Drafting a top OL within the top 5 picks does not equate to having a successful OLINE.
Look at all the good teams in the league. Most don’t have a top 5 pick on their OLine.
It’s about good coaching, implementing proper schemes that fit the talent and getting the OLine to play as a unit. All that equates to success.
I say a big NO to the Raiders using their top 3 pick on an OLinemen!
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I totally agree.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Kyle Long? Is that Howies other boy?
$$$$$$$$$
Yes sir.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Drafting a top OL within the top 5 picks does not equate to having a successful OLINE.
Look at all the good teams in the league. Most don’t have a top 5 pick on their OLine.
It’s about good coaching, implementing proper schemes that fit the talent and getting the OLine to play as a unit. All that equates to success.
I say a big NO to the Raiders using their top 3 pick on an OLinemen!
Damn! Getting rid of Satele and changing blocking schemes was such a bad mistake.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I was thinking about that as I typed..
Looks wierd.. But you get the point.
Like the Packers…Elite Pass Rush, Decent Run D, horrible Oline… SUPER BOWL.
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2 words
Aaron Rodgers
December 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Zopi Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Hey Kell,
How can you tell all the cross-posting trolls?
I mean, what do they have to hide?
Cowards?
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1. They’re constantly getting banned.
2. They say hateful things they don’t want associated with their real handles.
3. Yeah too cowardly to stand by their words.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Put 55 in the middle of the pats 3-4 next to Brandon Spikes with Wilfork in the middle eating up 3 blockers… You wont see McClain getting run over.
Give him a team with structure and leadership, and you wont see him jogging either.
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And get another Miles Burris or Desmond Bishop type player later in the draft and we have improved our team as well.
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Burris is a 24 year old rookie and he is hot garbage. Dude is a terrible tackler, bad in coverage, and eats stiff arms all game, I’ll pass on another Miles Burris. Maybe we should use him more often on blitzes because he gets exposed everywhere else on the field
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Raiders just announced an extension…
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Burris will be fine.
Not his fault he has to play every down on defense, because others can’t get the job done.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
68.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Drafting a top OL within the top 5 picks does not equate to having a successful OLINE.
Look at all the good teams in the league. Most don’t have a top 5 pick on their OLine.
It’s about good coaching, implementing proper schemes that fit the talent and getting the OLine to play as a unit. All that equates to success.
I say a big NO to the Raiders using their top 3 pick on an OLinemen!
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I totally agree.
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McK needs to focus on drafting solid football players on Defense who were talented and were leaders on their respective teams in college.
He also needs to draft a Right Tackle who also has the ability to play inside in the middle rounds.
Maybe even draft a Center so Wiz can move back to LG, since Carlisle is done.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Burris…well, I was rooting for Stupar, but oh well!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
How do u change your username w/out making another acct.?
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Don’t know, but I think they do have to create new accounts. They also use Proxy Servers, according to MR/Sully
But what I can’t understand, and I asked Cork, is how someone posts under someone else’s registered handle?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.
davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.
R8drinOK Says:
What the H*ll? Mystic your black vs white racial BS has no bounds man. Go back to talking about the greatness of Pryor over Palmer. By the way I’m pulling for Pryor but you better be ready to reap the whirlwind if he stinks it up Sunday because right now everyone but you knows Carson is a better QB.
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Miss Tick never brings up race, other than to call out us racist posters. And he is ready if Pryor underperforms Sunday. He started frontloading excuses yesterday. I expect him to stockpile every possible scenario by gametime for his told you so’s afterward.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Why some people think that Romac needs to have a D made for him instead of him learning whats being taught, is beyond me. In football and in any job, when you get hired you come in and do the job they want you to do. 3-4, 4-3, 5-4, or whatever they play, a Backer is suppose to make plays. when you jog and are lazy and just stupid, there is no system that fits you…
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
How do u change your username w/out making another acct.?
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Don’t know, but I think they do have to create new accounts. They also use Proxy Servers, according to MR/Sully
But what I can’t understand, and I asked Cork, is how someone posts under someone else’s registered handle?
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Those trolls are computer wiz’
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Burris will be fine.
Not his fault he has to play every down on defense, because others can’t get the job done.
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Should he not desire to and be prepared to play every down in a game?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
In all my life I had never seen a devastating knockout punch. I remember back in the day, I saw the fight when Benny Kid Paret was killed in the ring by Emile Griffith, the difference was that Paret lasted until the 12th, out of 15th then, as he was being pummeled the fight was stopped for a TKO.
Marquez laid out Pacquio with one.
I seriously thought PacMan was out, lucky for him he’s fine for another go around.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Josh Hamilton to Angels?!?
Uuuuugggghhhhhhhhh!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
JonGroupie2013 has to be 1 of the most annoying trolls on this blog. Alex smith is pure trash.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Burris will be fine.
Not his fault he has to play every down on defense, because others can’t get the job done.
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Should he not desire to and be prepared to play every down in a game?
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He is prepared, just not an every down backer.
He dropped to the 4th round for a reason.
He’s someone you can work with, unlike Mcjogger and others on the team.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
urvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.
davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.
R8drinOK Says:
What the H*ll? Mystic your black vs white racial BS has no bounds man. Go back to talking about the greatness of Pryor over Palmer. By the way I’m pulling for Pryor but you better be ready to reap the whirlwind if he stinks it up Sunday because right now everyone but you knows Carson is a better QB.
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Miss Tick never brings up race, other than to call out us racist posters. And he is ready if Pryor underperforms Sunday. He started frontloading excuses yesterday. I expect him to stockpile every possible scenario by gametime for his told you so’s afterward.
>> Misses dick is a victim of the evil white man. he/she brings up race constantly and is a sheep. and his/her football knowledge is limitied. missesdick said palmer was a loser and stats don’t matter. but his idol cam newton is a loser as well with nice stats but thats ok. newton is 10-19. WOOOOOOO
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
1- DE/ OLB D Moore
3- OT K Lonh
Or trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Amerson, Rhodes, or Banks
2- OLB Dion Jordan if he was available, Stanford LB, or A Barr
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- OT K Long if he was still available
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
newton is 10-19. WOOOOOOO
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Which is better than Palmer’s 2 years here.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Wassup w/ Shane Skov?
Is he elgible for the draft?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Are u guys seeing the highlights of the Denver game played back over and over on your pc’s as well?
I keep seeing them replay the Adams int. and i’ve seen that same play many times…except everytime i’ve seen it with us before…our CB is looking at the receiver and NOT THE BALL.
Woodson tried to instill that into the DB’s and they never got it.
Adams has done it now at least twice….resulting in him picking it off.
Adams also makes a nice play on Decker in the endzone forcing a fg try.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Since Seymour is gone. Houston needs to move inside full time to utilize his strengths. Another strong and not fat NT/DT type needs to be added in the draft also. Then either trade Kelly for a 4th rounder or keep him around.
I was so pissed when the Raiders didn’t draft Paul Solial out of Utah a few years ago. Would have been a solid pick.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
newton is 10-19. WOOOOOOO
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Which is better than Palmer’s 2 years here.
>. you missed the point as usual
December 13th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
cfrylopez Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Kyle Long is the best athlete in the long family, however he is a very raw football. He played 3 year of collage baseball and only played 2 years of collage football. He thought he was going to pitch in MLB but it turns out he has more of a NFL body. He played D-line for one season and is playing O-line this year for the Ducks. He is very raw but has a high celing. He will most likely be a RT in the NFL. Kyle Long should be a 3rd round pick but it is hard to say where he will be picked. Some say in the 2nd round cuz he is a Long & great athele, some say in the 4th because he is so raw and he got a DUI and bad grades his 2nd year. However he has done well in school and has not gotten in trouble since. If he is around when the Raiders pick in the 3rd, We should get young Long!
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Veldheer has done a good job for us this year. He has had one bad game and quite a few good ones particularly in pass blocking. Now that we are going to see Von Miller a minimum of twice a year for the next ten years, RT needs to become a HUGE priority for us, so Kyle might be a nice pick. Notice how KC targeted and picked up Eric Winston as soon as he hit the market. Wish we had the money to do that.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
89.Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
1- DE/ OLB D Moore
3- OT K Lonh
Or trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Amerson, Rhodes, or Banks
2- OLB Dion Jordan if he was available, Stanford LB, or A Barr
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- OT K Long if he was still available
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No way McK is picking a CB with that 1st Rounder!
That pick is going to be on DE/OLB like Werner, Jones, Moore or Jordan or a stud LB like Te’o or maybe NT/DT Star.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
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See the schtt black QBs have to deal with???
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wow what a trip
I disagree with steven a. though, black is not a skin simply a skin color but its also a consciousness.
I think black athletes SHOULD make statements on race issues, and be visible in the communities they are from doing good for marginalized black youth.
This is what would make them heroes and role models as opposed to simply an athlete and entertainer.
i would never expect Griffin a top 5 nfl qb at this moment, to ever be associated with anything that could be considered militant, pro black black nationalist or pan afrikan.
i wouldnt expect that from any major black athlete or entertainer and the reason is very simple.
1. They are socialized only to accept other than their own. taught to get as far away from their own people and old neighborhoods as possible.
2. they are taught to protect their image at all cost. being outspoken about the black mans struggle is not tolerated and would certainly cause them to loose income.
3. They have been mis-educated since childhood. about both themselves as black people and the hostile environment we live in as refugees from the slave trade wars.
4. refusal to comply with the accepted norm will cause them to be black balled ( notice this particular terms (relevance) from the sport, ridiculed in the media, and possibly even killed by those that seek to keep us in a poor condition.
5. they are owned and dont want to upset the people they are paid to entertain
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
newton is 10-19. WOOOOOOO
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Which is better than Palmer’s 2 years here.
>. you missed the point as usual
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You have no point, as usual. Lol smh.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
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See the schtt black QBs have to deal with???
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wow what a trip
I disagree with steven a. though, black is not a skin simply a skin color but its also a consciousness.
I think black athletes SHOULD make statements on race issues, and be visible in the communities they are from doing good for marginalized black youth.
This is what would make them heroes and role models as opposed to simply an athlete and entertainer.
i would never expect Griffin a top 5 nfl qb at this moment, to ever be associated with anything that could be considered militant, pro black black nationalist or pan afrikan.
i wouldnt expect that from any major black athlete or entertainer and the reason is very simple.
1. They are socialized only to accept other than their own. taught to get as far away from their own people and old neighborhoods as possible.
2. they are taught to protect their image at all cost. being outspoken about the black mans struggle is not tolerated and would certainly cause them to loose income.
3. They have been mis-educated since childhood. about both themselves as black people and the hostile environment we live in as refugees from the slave trade wars.
4. refusal to comply with the accepted norm will cause them to be black balled ( notice this particular terms (relevance) from the sport, ridiculed in the media, and possibly even killed by those that seek to keep us in a poor condition.
5. they are owned and dont want to upset the people they are paid to entertain
>> maybe RGIII isn’t a black militant racist because he has common sense and is his own man?hmmmmm
December 13th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
newton is 10-19. WOOOOOOO
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Which is better than Palmer’s 2 years here.
>. you missed the point as usual
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You have no point, as usual. Lol smh.
>> don’t get mad because you’re not intelligent to chime old man
December 13th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
89.Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
1- DE/ OLB D Moore
3- OT K Lonh
Or trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Amerson, Rhodes, or Banks
2- OLB Dion Jordan if he was available, Stanford LB, or A Barr
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- OT K Long if he was still available
^^^^^^^^
No way McK is picking a CB with that 1st Rounder!
That pick is going to be on DE/OLB like Werner, Jones, Moore or Jordan or a stud LB like Te’o or maybe NT/DT Star.
>. its gotta be Star or Te’o in my view
December 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
don’t get mad because you’re not intelligent to chime old man
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Intelligence? You talking about intelligence with that sentence????? Smh.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
he’s just a green meanie now.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
See the schtt black QBs have to deal with???
————
wow what a trip
I disagree with steven a. though, black is not a skin simply a skin color but its also a consciousness.
I think black athletes SHOULD make statements on race issues, and be visible in the communities they are from doing good for marginalized black youth.
This is what would make them heroes and role models as opposed to simply an athlete and entertainer.
i would never expect Griffin a top 5 nfl qb at this moment, to ever be associated with anything that could be considered militant, pro black black nationalist or pan afrikan.
i wouldnt expect that from any major black athlete or entertainer and the reason is very simple.
1. They are socialized only to accept other than their own. taught to get as far away from their own people and old neighborhoods as possible.
2. they are taught to protect their image at all cost. being outspoken about the black mans struggle is not tolerated and would certainly cause them to loose income.
3. They have been mis-educated since childhood. about both themselves as black people and the hostile environment we live in as refugees from the slave trade wars.
4. refusal to comply with the accepted norm will cause them to be black balled ( notice this particular terms (relevance) from the sport, ridiculed in the media, and possibly even killed by those that seek to keep us in a poor condition.
5. they are owned and dont want to upset the people they are paid to entertain
>> maybe RGIII isn’t a black militant racist because he has common sense and is his own man?hmmmmm
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black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
don’t get mad because you’re not intelligent to chime old man
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Intelligence? You talking about intelligence with that sentence????? Smh.
>. you got me, I’m no typist. distract from my point about you being unintelligent all you want but you got the point didn’t you?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Is curry still jobless, I saw routte with another team can’t remember but he was getting flagged lol.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
If Pryor were as good as Mistic says he is than I would say definitely move out Palmer…
I’d love to believe Pryor was.
I think TP should start the last 3 games regardless.
It would at least give us a reason to be interested in the games.
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I’ve been advocating TP getting some run the entire season.
I couldn’t believe that Matt Lice was number 2 and that TP wasn’t even ACTIVE.
Absolute proof that this staff is clueless, visionless and incompetent.
I’m not a Palmer basher, but I’m also not a big fan.
Frankly, I think he’s competent but extremely overrated.
Better than Jason Cantball, but that’s not saying much.
I also don’t believe TP is an effective enough passer to be a very good NFL QB, but I’m not certain about that. I certainly would not rule it out.
I believe a competent staff would have had some packages installed for TP and would have attempted to ‘ease him in’. Give him a taste.
Look, even if he flamed out entirely, you’ve lost nothing.
I’ll take it a step further.
TP has the athletic prowess to play in some capacity in this league. There is little doubt in my mind about that.
Sure, he wants to be a QB. He’s convinced he can do it.
A really good and visionary HC would be able to convince him that maybe that’s not his ultimate position (if he flamed out) or that in the meantime he can help the team in some other capacity.
TP doesn’t seem to be an idiot. He’ll do what’s necessary to help the team and bolster his career. At least I’d like to believe that.
If Al was still around, I KNOW he’d find a way to get TP on the field, even if it wasn’t at QB.
This staff ? He’s lucky to finally be activated and we still haven’t had a glimpse as to what the future might hold.
I’m wondering whether Tits and Krapp finally decided to take a look at TP or if the order came from Reggie or Mark.
All I know for sure is that it’s about freaking time.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
>> you’re telling me what i should consider threatening? do you consider the Aryan brotherhood racist? there are white militants. what say you?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Is curry still jobless, I saw routte with another team can’t remember but he was getting flagged lol.
>> Routte went from being a top paid corner to be a unemployed vet in 1 year. make AD look really bad IMO. what a crap pick that dude was
December 13th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
>> maybe RGIII isn’t a black militant racist because he has common sense and is his own man?hmmmmm
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RGIII is very deeply religious. That is where a lot of his strength comes from like it or not.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
>> maybe RGIII isn’t a black militant racist because he has common sense and is his own man?hmmmmm
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RGIII is very deeply religious. That is where a lot of his strength comes from like it or not.
>> i don’t care about his religious belief. nothing to do with my point. seems like a smart young kid though and should have a great career.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
>> you’re telling me what i should consider threatening? do you consider the Aryan brotherhood racist? there are white militants. what say you?
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They are white supremacist…..big difference
December 13th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
>> you’re telling me what i should consider threatening? do you consider the Aryan brotherhood racist? there are white militants. what say you?
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maybe the brotherhood is both militant and racist
that does not change the definition of militant
militant does not mean racist.
racism is a power construct and black people have no access to this mechanism. Racism is made by white people and used by white people alone
December 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Charlie-in reference to comment 21-Neither “Boomer” Bob Brown or Jim Otto played for the 1976 Raider team that was voted the greatest team of all time by some.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
cfrylopez Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Kyle Long is the best athlete in the long family, however he is a very raw football. He played 3 year of collage baseball and only played 2 years of collage football. He thought he was going to pitch in MLB but it turns out he has more of a NFL body. He played D-line for one season and is playing O-line this year for the Ducks. He is very raw but has a high celing. He will most likely be a RT in the NFL. Kyle Long should be a 3rd round pick but it is hard to say where he will be picked. Some say in the 2nd round cuz he is a Long & great athele, some say in the 4th because he is so raw and he got a DUI and bad grades his 2nd year. However he has done well in school and has not gotten in trouble since. If he is around when the Raiders pick in the 3rd, We should get young Long!
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Veldheer has done a good job for us this year. He has had one bad game and quite a few good ones particularly in pass blocking. Now that we are going to see Von Miller a minimum of twice a year for the next ten years, RT needs to become a HUGE priority for us, so Kyle might be a nice pick. Notice how KC targeted and picked up Eric Winston as soon as he hit the market. Wish we had the money to do that.
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Winston has been just as bad as Brisiel.
Maybe the Texans knew something the Raiders/Queefs didn’t know.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Next thing you know, the race baiters on this blog will call Dr. King, Malcolm, and all of the people involved in the civil rights struggle in this country “racists.”
Do they even know the difference?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Guys.
The expression “the best defense is a good offense” still applies.
I agree a good dline that can rush the passer is important.
Always has been when playing good football teams.
Good prolific passing attacks have been around since the sixties. That is nothing new.
Please understand, my definition of a great Oline is one that can pass block AND run block. You need to be able to do both to win against good teams. Run block when you have the lead or enter the red zone and pass block when you need to play from behind. Staying balanced allows you to avoid being one dimensional and enhances EVERY skill player on the field.
At that time you can get your RB’s and WR’s in the later rounds.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
1- DE/ OLB D Moore
3- OT K Lonh
Or trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Amerson, Rhodes, or Banks
2- OLB Dion Jordan if he was available, Stanford LB, or A Barr
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- OT K Long if he was still available
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NO CB’s THAT HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
McJogger is making the Green party look bad sporting his new look “green” beenie cap.
lol
The Prez and fellow Green party members will not tolerate this schit!
He must go!
December 13th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
There is no point in drafting a CB in the first 3 rounds.
Not when our pass ruch needs as mich attention as it does.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just sign Nnamdi when he’s let go at seasons end.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
allen…marcus that is….”the game is a real easy one if you know what you’re doing…” too bad the other allen is too stupid to realize…
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
At the bottom of the page above where you type in your comments it says logged in as ‘DEATHROW 55′. Clicking that takes you to your user profile page. Change your nickname, confirm it in the dropdown menu from display name publicly as: and at the bottom of the page click update profile. When you refresh the current page your reading (or go to a new post) there you are.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Put 55 in the middle of the pats 3-4 next to Brandon Spikes with Wilfork in the middle eating up 3 blockers… You wont see McClain getting run over.
Give him a team with structure and leadership, and you wont see him jogging either.
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Maybe, but I still don’t think Slolando Greenbeanie is going to amount to anything.
He’s just too SLOW.
Out of the NFL by 2014.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Good offensive lineman are rarely available in Free Agency. Have to build the line thru the draft.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Dion Jordan
Corey Lemonier
Kyle Long
Id listen if there are any other suggestions for a pass rusher in the 13-17 pick range.
Other than that, those 3 are the best scenario for us IMO.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
What is the goal of “The Cause”?
If it’s true that it’s difficult to succeed as a black QB in this world then he has certainly been an example of perserverence in the face of obstacles and that in itself seems it would be something for marginalized youth to look up to and in fact lend itself helpful to ‘The Cause’.
As far as athletes being “owned” by the “Master” owners, can’t the same be said for white athletes too; or ANYBODY who works for a large corporation?
Everyone..athletes white, black, asian, indian whatever…have a choice.
If someone doesn’t like being “owned” then they can simply quit and go on with their lives. Noone is going to chase after them and force them to play sports.
This seems so ridiculous and reaching for something to be mad about.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Good offensive lineman are rarely available in Free Agency. Have to build the line thru the draft.
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Good ones are always available, cheap ones is the problem.
The ZBS has had lines made up of UDFA’s and 4-6th rounders for years.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
121.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just sign Nnamdi when he’s let go at seasons end.
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I doubt Nnamdi comes back to Oakland. More teams will pay him, but even if he doesn’t get great offers, i doubt he comes back to Oakland.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Now that everybody knows, maybe the corkster or becker will change it. But that might take half the late nite fun out of this place.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Malcolm
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favorite book of all time, got his poster on my wall, but come on he was racist. He believed all whites were evil until he made his pilgimage to mecca (at least that’s what it says in the book, others say he maintained his hatred)
December 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Good offensive lineman are rarely available in Free Agency. Have to build the line thru the draft.
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Good ones are always available, cheap ones is the problem.
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Like who?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
123.DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
At the bottom of the page above where you type in your comments it says logged in as ‘DEATHROW 55′. Clicking that takes you to your user profile page. Change your nickname, confirm it in the dropdown menu from display name publicly as: and at the bottom of the page click update profile. When you refresh the current page your reading (or go to a new post) there you are.
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Great info to open up the floodgates of cross posting.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Or go back in time and not do the “Greatest trade ever” where we give up a #17 & #33 overall pick.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Is curry still jobless, I saw routte with another team can’t remember but he was getting flagged lol.
>> Routte went from being a top paid corner to be a unemployed vet in 1 year. make AD look really bad IMO. what a crap pick that dude was
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You can be unemployed when 3 teams are paying you or is that DVD?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Dude, from being the 7th player picked in the draft to playing scout team running back…
That is one serious kick in the nuts by the coaches. For some of you who don’t know…running scout team pretty much sucks, you get your butt kicked by the starters (that he used to be)all during practice…The Defense doesn’t stop the play the scout team just ran correctly? They do it again..this time they know what the play is..Wheeler filled the wrong gap?..run it again..The scout team guard fell down? run it again..Giordano got burned by the scout team receiver? Run it again…and on and on it goes..
Rolando is getting his a$$ handed to him by the Defense he used to ‘command’….he is getting everything he deserves..
Not sure if this was posted or not, but did you hear what he actually said to D.A that started this whole shouting match? D.A said to run something again in a drill, and he asked McClain–’Do you even care?’ and McClains response was “I have four million reasons not to.” and Vesuvius erupted..
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Routt plays for the texans now.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I doubt Nnamdi comes back to Oakland. More teams will pay him, but even if he doesn’t get great offers, i doubt he comes back to Oakland.
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he was hearbroken when he left. i’m sure he wants to go to a winner but we have a shot if we want him
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
121.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just sign Nnamdi when he’s let go at seasons end.
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I doubt Nnamdi comes back to Oakland. More teams will pay him, but even if he doesn’t get great offers, i doubt he comes back to Oakland.
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The way he’s played, I doubt he’ll see another big payday.
Nnamdi needs the Raiders and the Raiders need Nnamdi.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
128.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Good offensive lineman are rarely available in Free Agency. Have to build the line thru the draft.
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Good ones are always available, cheap ones is the problem.
The ZBS has had lines made up of UDFA’s and 4-6th rounders for years.
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And when has one of those ZBS lines full of late round picks ever worked out?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
>> you’re telling me what i should consider threatening? do you consider the Aryan brotherhood racist? there are white militants. what say you?
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maybe the brotherhood is both militant and racist
that does not change the definition of militant
militant does not mean racist.
racism is a power construct and black people have no access to this mechanism. Racism is made by white people and used by white people alone
>. you’re a sick fuking little man. i don’t make racism, i hate equally . if you’re a moron i tell it. and you are a moron. plenty of black racism man, I’m a white dude from CAL and I’ve dealt with it my whole life but i don’t let it rule my life like you do sheep. PLENTY of black racisn, all people are capable of it. you just made the most racist, ignorant comment I’ve heard. people like you can only talk on a blog.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
So Todd Mcshays mock draft came out. But he said alot can change in 3 months.
he has Star Louteli going 1 overall
he has Damontre Moore going 2 overall.
He has Bejorn Waerner going to Raiders at 3. Manti going 11th but he said he is a top 5 player on his board.
I really dont want Werner. We dont need another shaunnseey. We need speed rushers guys like aldon smith or von miller types. Dion jordan would be nice who he has going 8th overall.
Guess what. Anthony barr fans McShay said he is eligble to come out in the draft if he he decides. Would be a top 20 pick.
I wouldnt mind trading down getting more picks and getting TEO’ at 10
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
139.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
121.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just sign Nnamdi when he’s let go at seasons end.
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I doubt Nnamdi comes back to Oakland. More teams will pay him, but even if he doesn’t get great offers, i doubt he comes back to Oakland.
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The way he’s played, I doubt he’ll see another big payday.
Nnamdi needs the Raiders and the Raiders need Nnamdi.
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He hasn’t been that bad, it’s more on the Eagles Defense as a whole. Teams will see that. I’d love to have him back but I doubt he picks this debacle of a Coaching staff unless the Raiders offer huge money, which won’t happen
December 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
129.The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
121.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just sign Nnamdi when he’s let go at seasons end.
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I doubt Nnamdi comes back to Oakland. More teams will pay him, but even if he doesn’t get great offers, i doubt he comes back to Oakland.
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By PFW staff
The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity:
• “The Eagles cut Jason Babin because they are making plans for next year already. They have to play their young guys. When you have bad secondary and corner play, your pass rush is in trouble. The whole defense is predicated on having physical corners. I would have benched Nnamdi Asomugha last year. It takes a blind man not to see it. He turns down contact and gets away with it. There is no accountability, and the players see it.”
December 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
128.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Good offensive lineman are rarely available in Free Agency. Have to build the line thru the draft.
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Good ones are always available, cheap ones is the problem.
The ZBS has had lines made up of UDFA’s and 4-6th rounders for years.
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And when has one of those ZBS lines full of late round picks ever worked out?
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Have you seen the Houston Texans this season?
Maybe you’ve heard of the Redskins?
Elway and the Broncos? etc etc
December 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Is curry still jobless, I saw routte with another team can’t remember but he was getting flagged lol.
>> Routte went from being a top paid corner to be a unemployed vet in 1 year. make AD look really bad IMO. what a crap pick that dude was
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You can be unemployed when 3 teams are paying you or is that DVD?
>> Routte is getting paid. guess that’s the nature f contracts
December 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
The way he’s played, I doubt he’ll see another big payday.
Nnamdi needs the Raiders and the Raiders need Nnamdi
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let’s just hope he changes that hairdo and houston follows suit
December 13th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I could care less what kind of hair style a player has.
Can he play?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
In Reggie I trust!
He’ll draft a few young studs. No worries at all.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Doesnt matter if the blackout is lifted or not,..the local Sac CBS station is playing the Dallas-Pitt game instead.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
Great info to open up the floodgates of cross posting.
DEATHROW 55 Says:
Now that everybody knows, maybe the corkster or becker will change it. But that might take half the late nite fun out of this place.==================================
He acknowledged that.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The biggest move Reg makes in the offseason is getting Alex Smith,…Palmer and Pryor bout to be let go,..Leinert will back up Smith. It will work.
>> Alex smith is good game manager and is mobile. might work in a run based conservative pass offense. don’t expect a lot of vertical passing.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I really dont want Werner. We dont need another shaunnseey. We need speed rushers guys like aldon smith or von miller types. Dion jordan would be nice who he has going 8th overall.
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i’d love to see werners 40 time because we might be saying he’s slow because he’s white. he has 13 sacks and can play the run. moore looks like he can add to his frame but still questionble if he’ll stop the run. the other guys are 3rd down specialists in a 4-3
December 13th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
128.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Good offensive lineman are rarely available in Free Agency. Have to build the line thru the draft.
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Good ones are always available, cheap ones is the problem.
The ZBS has had lines made up of UDFA’s and 4-6th rounders for years.
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And when has one of those ZBS lines full of late round picks ever worked out?
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Have you seen the Houston Texans this season?
Maybe you’ve heard of the Redskins?
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Let me know when the Texans and Redskins do anything great that hasn’t been done with Power lines. The current Broncos have two high picks at tackle
December 13th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
KC vs Oakland
The Toilet Bowl
We need to lose to get that good draft pick.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
What is the goal of “The Cause”?
If it’s true that it’s difficult to succeed as a black QB in this world then he has certainly been an example of perserverence in the face of obstacles and that in itself seems it would be something for marginalized youth to look up to and in fact lend itself helpful to ‘The Cause’.
As far as athletes being “owned” by the “Master” owners, can’t the same be said for white athletes too; or ANYBODY who works for a large corporation?
Everyone..athletes white, black, asian, indian whatever…have a choice.
If someone doesn’t like being “owned” then they can simply quit and go on with their lives. Noone is going to chase after them and force them to play sports.
This seems so ridiculous and reaching for something to be mad about.
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making it to become a pro athlete, is not and cant ever be associated with ‘the cause”.
Sports mean nothing it is not social equality or justice.
It is an oversimplification to say ‘they can just walk away’.
You are talking about people that come from the worst segments of poverty and most for several generations.
They have worked extremely hard to break out and wont simply give it up for a principal that most are unfamiliar with to begin with.
This is part of the way they are easily controlled and manipulated.
there is no “if’ in the notion that black people men in particular have obstacles placed in front of them to keep them from succeeding, regardless of what aspect we are talking about. academics, sports politics labor or what have you all are included.
simple math we only make up less than 12% of the population in this country, of course it is a hostile environment.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
sign avril, draft te’o
December 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Didn’t sound very complicated. Don’t know how anyone even logs on here without kinda knowing most of that anyway.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
2013 Off-Season:
OC/Norv Turner
Alex Smith
Dion Jordan
Corey Lemonier
Kyle Long
December 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
The ZBS is a garbage system. So what if you can fill it with cheap, inexpensive lineman. Kwame Harris, Mario Henderson, Kalif Barnes, Cornell Green, etc… were all cheap and late round picks for the ZBS.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Plunk
After I submit picks does submit keep showing? It is on me. I picked all the games and the tie-breaker
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If you are sons of anarchy your picks are not showing.
hit submit and it should show that you are done
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, Jim Otto, George Buhler, Bob Brown.
Jim Otto, Gene Upshaw, Art Shell, George Buehler, Bob Brown…1971-74…This group produced three HOFers and steamrolled the best defenses in football. Otto is arguably the best center ever while Upshaw and Shell were among the best guards and tackles in history. In 1971, this group allowed only 24 sacks in 14 games, repeating this in 1972. They paved the way for Marv Hubbard’s three straight Pro Bowls between 1971-73. Otto was as durable as he was tough; he never missed a start, 308 consecutive games over 15 years. Shell was an eight time Pro Bowl Selection, seven times All Pro, and was named to the NFL 1970’s All Decade Team. Upshaw was named to the NFL 75 th Anniversary team and has been the head of the NFL Players Association for decades. This is arguably the best offensive line ever.
http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Article:NFL_History_101…Best_Offensive_Lines_Of_All-Time
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Wasn’t no ZBS.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
The ZBS works,..just need a better running back,..get rid of DMC.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
walter football has bjorn werner running a 4.8 from spring. Not bad.
But getting news from priemium Werner is not in the raiders radar.
according to corky TEO is big on the RAiders radar or tradiing down. Also some kid name JUSTIN HUNTER is on REGGIES
December 13th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
The ZBS isnt about 1 lineman.
IF you dont understand it, theres no point in talking about it.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RoCuthim McNow
December 13th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
165.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
The ZBS isnt about 1 lineman.
IF you dont understand it, theres no point in talking about it.
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You seem to think that a collection of $h!tty linemen can make a good o-line. That’s fine when they’re run blocking, but look at Tom Cables line in Seattle when they have to pass protect.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Any system where Paul McQuinstan can still have a job is not a good system.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
so werner ran a 4.8, moore a 4.72
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Watching this Gangland doc about Oakland,..wow,..no wonder the Raiders and A`s and Warriors want the fck out.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
163.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
The ZBS works,..just need a better running back,..get rid of DMC.
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And when they have to drop back and protect the QB? We had top 10 running games with Cable’s ZBS, but on passing downs it was a complete mess.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I do like the idea of Norv as oc and Alex Smith as our QB,…should work.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
>> you’re telling me what i should consider threatening? do you consider the Aryan brotherhood racist? there are white militants. what say you?
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maybe the brotherhood is both militant and racist
that does not change the definition of militant
militant does not mean racist.
racism is a power construct and black people have no access to this mechanism. Racism is made by white people and used by white people alone
December 13th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Raiders will take STar or Te’o with the 3rd overall pick.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
On “30 for 30..You don’t know Bo” last night it was interesting that Bo was offered 250,000 a yr. to comeplay for the Yankees right after high school and even though his family was poor his mother said “We don’t need Mr. Steinbrenner’s money…we’ll do just fine without it”.
The Jacksons of Bessemer Ala. were a very proud family.
Glad Bo made the decision to go to Auburn and then eventually to the Raiders and Royals.
We were robbed of seeing what could have been one of the greatest of all time. What we saw from Bo barely scratched the surface.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
zbs svcks aszs just like reggie and DA
December 13th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
black militant doesnt mean racist
Dont be threatened by the term
>> you’re telling me what i should consider threatening? do you consider the Aryan brotherhood racist? there are white militants. what say you?
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maybe the brotherhood is both militant and racist
that does not change the definition of militant
militant does not mean racist.
racism is a power construct and black people have no access to this mechanism. Racism is made by white people and used by white people alone
>. you’re a sick fuking little man. i don’t make racism, i hate equally . if you’re a moron i tell it. and you are a moron. plenty of black racism man, I’m a white dude from CAL and I’ve dealt with it my whole life but i don’t let it rule my life like you do sheep. PLENTY of black racisn, all people are capable of it. you just made the most racist, ignorant comment I’ve heard. people like you can only talk on a blog.
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study up so you dont sound so foolish
the term race, the root word of racism was created in the 16th century by western Europeans, as way to separate themselves from afrikans. this was used to justify the trading of afrikans.
The term race and racism never existed in the history of the earth before that point.
western Europeans (white) invented the term race. Invented a system of classification of humans based on their term race.
white supremacy and racism are exclusive property of whites.
black people dont own or have enough power in amerikka to oppress any one.
by definition black people are not qualified for the term racist
December 13th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I do like the idea of Norv as oc and Alex Smith as our QB,…should work.
>> Norv employes a vertical passing offense. would probably fail with smith. he’s just dont a good deep passer from what I’ve seen. within 20 yards he is accurate. just remember him missing open WRs last year in the playoffs. but if i get proven wrong thats even better
December 13th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I do like the idea of Norv as oc and Alex Smith as our QB,…should work.
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let’s hope tp or leinert can at least match up to carson so we can trade him to the jets or cards
December 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Palmer and Pryor are gone in 3 weeks,..need a QB,..I like Smith.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
18.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Put 55 in the middle of the pats 3-4 next to Brandon Spikes with Wilfork in the middle eating up 3 blockers… You wont see McClain getting run over.
Give him a team with structure and leadership, and you wont see him jogging either.
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Or do what a 1st rounder is supposed to do. Be a standout for the team he’s on.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
170.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Watching this Gangland doc about Oakland,..wow,..no wonder the Raiders and A`s and Warriors want the fck out.
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I love the line from “Deep Cover” when the Reverend says to Fishburne “You’re not from Oakland…I know Oakland…and you’re not Oakland”.
I always wondered what he meant by that. Is it a certain look…or dialect?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Palmer will retire in 3 weeks,..Pryor will be cut.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
white supremacy and racism are exclusive property of whites.
black people dont own or have enough power in amerikka to oppress any one.
by definition black people are not qualified for the term racist
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if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist
December 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
racism is a power construct and black people have no access to this mechanism. Racism is made by white people and used by white people alone
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Balderdash.
There’s plenty of black racists.
All your ‘power construct’ and ‘mechanism’ nonsense doesn’t change that reality.
In fact, it’s racist to claim that only whites are racist.
You’ve got to be delusional to claim that black racists don’t exist.
You’ve got to be insane to think they can’t exist.
Pure lunacy.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Remember, Bo said, had the Raiders drafted him instead of Tampa Bay, he would have only played football…
December 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Any system where Paul McQuinstan can still have a job is not a good system.
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Paul is kicking butt and taking names under Tom Cable
December 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If you really want a QB that can’t throw deep, is semi mobile and struggles with accuracy, then just give Jason Campbell another shot. Not Alex Smith.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
187.Plunketthead Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Any system where Paul McQuinstan can still have a job is not a good system.
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Paul is kicking butt and taking names under Tom Cable
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Blocking for Lynch, sure. But when it comes to pass protection they fold.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Well, crap…trade for TJ Yates…
December 13th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
study up so you dont sound so foolish
the term race, the root word of racism was created in the 16th century by western Europeans, as way to separate themselves from afrikans. this was used to justify the trading of afrikans.
The term race and racism never existed in the history of the earth before that point.
western Europeans (white) invented the term race. Invented a system of classification of humans based on their term race.
white supremacy and racism are exclusive property of whites.
black people dont own or have enough power in amerikka to oppress any one.
by definition black people are not qualified for the term racist
>> the word doesn’t matter genius. it what the word ENTAILS in its definition. ever take a logic class? words mean very little. what does the word MEAN, what point is it trying to communicate. you can’t sit here and tell me as matter of FACT that the white europeans invented the ignorance known as racism. you have no ground to stand on, no proof, no history from any source, mainstream or alternative. you are an A GRADE moron and if i were black i would write you off. you spend your whole life identifying with victim hood and before you know it you’re an old bitter man. get out and live, you have more freedom than you can know. I’ve seen REAl oppression and you;re not living under it. its all in your fukin head. rise up and be your own man and stop being a little lapdog for fake causes. only weak people identify with groups.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Palmer will retire in 3 weeks,..Pryor will be cut.
>. are you just trolling or do actually have a source?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I hate to break it to all the T’eo fans, but it doesn’t make sense for the raiders to draft him.
1. the MLB position is not as important as it once was.
2. In todays game, you need a edge rusher. I.e. every decent team has one
I like D. Moore with the pick, but I would understand if Reggie trades down to get extra pics.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
alex smith qb? not exactly gna get the fans to the ticket booth
December 13th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If you really want a QB that can’t throw deep, is semi mobile and struggles with accuracy, then just give Jason Campbell another shot. Not Alex Smith.
>. good point. JC is hesitant but throws a better deep ball from my recollection. who’s cheaper?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
164.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
walter football has bjorn werner running a 4.8 from spring. Not bad.
But getting news from priemium Werner is not in the raiders radar.
according to corky TEO is big on the RAiders radar or tradiing down. Also some kid name JUSTIN HUNTER is on REGGIES
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NO on Hunter.
Hunter was good as a sophmore for Tennessee, then got injured in second game of Junior yr. against Florida and was out for the season.
He came back for his senior yr. and dropped so many passes….alot of them WIDE OPEN…it wasn’t even funny.
He digressed considerably.
The star of the UT offense became a guy name Cordarrelle Patterson…THAT IS THE GUY you’d really want.
I think he’s only a sophmore though.
PLEASE PLEASE don’t take Hunter. Especially in the 1st rd.
Heyward Bey part 2 if he does.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
DaTruth91 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I hate to break it to all the T’eo fans, but it doesn’t make sense for the raiders to draft him.
1. the MLB position is not as important as it once was.
2. In todays game, you need a edge rusher. I.e. every decent team has one
I like D. Moore with the pick, but I would understand if Reggie trades down to get extra pics.
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generally you’re right, but you can’t tell me suggs is more important than ray lewis or aldon is more important than willis
December 13th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
194.inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
alex smith qb? not exactly gna get the fans to the ticket booth
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Yes, and if there’s one thing the Raiders are concerned about it’s keeping the fans happy and optimistic.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I have a problem with the headline of this latest topic by Steve: “McClain Still Running With Scout Team.”
Really, Steve. “Running?” You sure you want to go with that?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
195.manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If you really want a QB that can’t throw deep, is semi mobile and struggles with accuracy, then just give Jason Campbell another shot. Not Alex Smith.
>. good point. JC is hesitant but throws a better deep ball from my recollection. who’s cheaper?
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I was only kidding about Jason, While i didn’t hate him, he was terrible at late game management.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The only team that successfully uses the ZBS system is Houston and they can’t win playoff games with it, everyone else has gone away from it.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
U kidding me Raiders need MLB in the worse way. U gonna go in with Gaither next year?
Todd Mcshay said he never uses this with MLB but he said Manti Teo is an ELITE MLB prospect and can take his game to another level to eventually mean to a team what Ray Lewis does to his.
Thats big time
December 13th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I know we need some consistency but i really think this coaching staff has lost this football team, for sure knapp and the ZBS system have to go, and probably Tarver, he always refers to well ask coach that, like he’s not the d coordinator. i just think the team doesn’t respect da.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
The raiders should trade back and
1. Barkevious Mingo OLB
2. Anthony Barr OLB (I know 2 OLB’s but we need plenty)*
3. Oday Aboushi OT
4. Terry Hawthorne CB
Pick is from the trade back and Barr may not declare, if not John Jenkins should be the pick
December 13th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
U kidding me Raiders need MLB in the worse way. U gonna go in with Gaither next year?
Todd Mcshay said he never uses this with MLB but he said Manti Teo is an ELITE MLB prospect and can take his game to another level to eventually mean to a team what Ray Lewis does to his.
Thats big time
>> for me its Star or Te’o. Raiders do need a leader on that defense.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Big Chill Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The only team that successfully uses the ZBS system is Houston and they can’t win playoff games with it, everyone else has gone away from it.
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Not true. Seattle, Washington and a number of other teams use it as well. Nearly every team uses it some of the time, because zone-blocking and angle-blocking require different defensive strategies and alternating them keeps the other team off-balance.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist
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Well, I suggest you read US History
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Goodell wants to now add more teams to the playoffs?
Does this guy ever suggest anything remotely right?
His track record is so horrible. Nothing he does is warranted or accepted by fans or the players.
He is quickly turning into one of the worst commisioners in sports history. He is so desperate to leave his mark, that he just keeps trying to change something that wasnt broken.
He had the easiest job in the world. Walk into the most well run business in the world and do absolutely NOTHING. Dont change a thing and just let things hum along like the were.
But instead he’s got his hands all over everything. Getting rid of kickoffs, expanding the season, expanding the playoffs, the bounty scandal, the lockout…..
GOODELL SUCKS!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Des Moines, IA
A Des Moines woman who claims she was subjected to racial slurs by co-workers, including finding a doll whose face was painted black hanging outside her home with threats to quit her job at Deere & Co., has filed a discrimination lawsuit against the company. (via http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-10-31/iowa-woman-sues-deere-alleging-race-discrimination)
Type: Legal Developments
Reported: 10/30/2012
December 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I’d like to see McJogger under the supervision of Ray Lewis. Maybe he could help him out.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
ZBS can get away with cheap lineman in the running game, but when it comes time for one on one pass blocking, it’s a different story. We got a decent one in Veldheer, but we need some Blue Chip lineman.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Sandusky, OH
Police in northern Ohio say they are investigating racist graffiti scrawled in chalk in front of a college basketball coach’s house. Police say vandals wrote “white power” along with a swastika on the sidewalk in front of Bowling Green State University basketball coach Louis Orr’s home over the weekend. Orr is black Orr, the team’s coach since 2007, declined to comment through a university spokesman who said this is the first time anything like this has happened to the coach since he’s been at Bowling Green. A police spokesman said he hopes someone in the community will come forward with information about who did it. (Via Newsday: http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/racist-graffiti-scrawled-at-ohio-coach-s-house-1.4120138)
Type: Vandalism
Reported: 10/15/2012
December 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist
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Well, I suggest you read US History
>. your response is emotional and irrational with no validity based on the previous comment. if you hate because of skin color you’re racist and history is irrelevant. and yeah I’m an evil white male and am responsible for your hard life
December 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The Raiders couldn’t care less about pleasing the fans.
They think they can just put any piece of crap team out there and offer ZERO hope for anything to change and the fans will continue to flock to the coliseum and waste their hard earned money on a product that is the laughingstock of the “industry”.
Maybe they’re right. They get the tv money regardless so why should they care.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Sandusky, OH
Police in northern Ohio say they are investigating racist graffiti scrawled in chalk in front of a college basketball coach’s house. Police say vandals wrote “white power” along with a swastika on the sidewalk in front of Bowling Green State University basketball coach Louis Orr’s home over the weekend. Orr is black Orr, the team’s coach since 2007, declined to comment through a university spokesman who said this is the first time anything like this has happened to the coach since he’s been at Bowling Green. A police spokesman said he hopes someone in the community will come forward with information about who did it. (Via Newsday: http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/racist-graffiti-scrawled-at-ohio-coach-s-house-1.4120138)
Type: Vandalism
Reported: 10/15/2012
>. like the black woman in elk grove Ca who vandalized here own house with swastikas to play victim. stupidity is in all people
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Bangor, ME
Three teens were arrested for spray-painting swastikas and anti- Semitic graffiti on two synagogues on Sept. 21. Two of the teens face felony aggravated criminal mischief charges and the other youth was charged with misdemeanor criminal mischief/vandalism.
Type: Legal Developments
Reported: 09/25/2012
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
>. no we can’t. give KK your pin number and he’ll leave you alone. its a shakedown.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.
Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.
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I kinda gotta agree here. But not simply because Teo is a all-world MLB.
Teo doesnt seem to have any of the anti-social issues that McClain has displayed.
But Teo is a 3-4 ILB on a very talented team. His flaws are masked and his positives are exagerated due to his teammates play. Those are the exact same issues we’ve had with Rolando.
Other than their personality differences, I see the same issues. We cant turn a 3-4 guy into a 4-3 guy. We dont have the talent up front to make Teo as much of a impact player.
Maybe if we were willing to keep Rolando and pair him with Teo and switch to a 3-4 it might work, but it looks like that ship has sailed so lets just not make the same mistake twice.
We messed up with Roland, even with his personality disorder. We’d do the same with Teo simply based on putting him in the wrong scheme. Both guys are not good enough athletes to adjust and change their game to suite the 4-3.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
white supremacy and racism are exclusive property of whites.
black people dont own or have enough power in amerikka to oppress any one.
by definition black people are not qualified for the term racist
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if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Balderdash.
There’s plenty of black racists.
All your ‘power construct’ and ‘mechanism’ nonsense doesn’t change that reality.
In fact, it’s racist to claim that only whites are racist.
You’ve got to be delusional to claim that black racists don’t exist.
You’ve got to be insane to think they can’t exist.
Pure lunacy.
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I dont know why this rubs you guys the wrong way but racism is not “dislike’
dislike is just an emotion it has no power.
racism is about power
it was invented by white and used as a system of power over black people.
It was born with the slave trade.
It included a comprehensive strategy, including some of the horros listed below
disrupting communication
, separating tribal groups so people that spoke the same dialect were not together. people that tried to retain their afrikan language were killed, babies were taught broken backward english and afrikan language was a death sentence.
disrupting marriage and courtship and kin ship rituals.
including forcing incest breeding, selling / killing of children and family memebers, forced witness of torture and rape, being barred from marriage or parenting all together, forced to be surrogate parents for slave masters family.
These are just a few examples of what racism was created to be, and this was the only purpose for its invention.
There is no record anywhere on earth of black people in amerikkka, such a system to enslave or dominate anyone.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.
Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!
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Youre not serious are you?
Teo was only a runner up because all of the top preseason candidates fell on their faces. Look who McClain was up against his year.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Palmer and Pryor are gone in 3 weeks,..need a QB,..I like Smith.
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What makes you believe this?
December 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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Really dumb comment
December 13th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I find it easier to get along with people through mutual respect, understanding of background, origin, culture or religion. I respect peoples character and behavior and see past skin color.
Makes life much easier.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I want a speed rusher.. pure speed rusher. then a CB
Trade down reggie.
Pick up dion jordan and a corner
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Fort Worth, TX
“Earnest Lackey boasted that he was a member of the Aryan Brotherhood. But Ronnie Freeman Jr. didn’t believe Lackey, and he made the 34-year-old Burleson man pay for it, Tarrant County sheriff’s investigators say. In July, Lackey was choked, kicked, hog-tied with a yellow cord, beaten and sexually tortured with a soldering iron by Freeman and two other men who also claim membership in the white supremacist gang, according to arrest warrant affidavits obtained by Star-Telegram on Tuesday.” -Via the Fort Worth Star Telegram
Type: Assault
Reported: 09/20/2012
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I want a speed rusher.. pure speed rusher. then a CB
Trade down reggie.
Pick up dion jordan and a corner
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Mingo is your man
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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we who?
besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain
December 13th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.
Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!
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Youre not serious are you?
Teo was only a runner up because all of the top preseason candidates fell on their faces. Look who McClain was up against his year.
Riff…no I am not serious…but was McClain up for the Heisman? Someone mentioned drafting Johnny Manziel in 2 years…lol
December 13th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
This place is a ZOO! Wait….can I say that? I mean you are all animals! Wait….that might upset some animals….shoot, this PC stuff, smh.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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Really dumb comment
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How so? There is nobody alive who was ever an American slave, and almost nobody who was the child of one. Yet I keep hearing the “We were brought here in chains” refrain way too bloody often whenever Affirmative Action and whatnot is discussed. Go check out Bill Cosby’s “Pound Cake” speech and some of what he talks about. There’s nothing wrong at all with taking control of your own destiny and refusing to let society grind you into the dirt.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
One nfl anaylst said that what the raiders are lacking since wimbley left.
You have guy who are pure DT/DE like shaunnseey, Houston, Bryant, Kelly.. but no speed rusher off the end.
Man Al knew what he was doing when he got wimbley.. miss that guy cuz he made the entire DLINE better with his qb pressures
December 13th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Outrage in US as black man is shot in head while handcuffed in police car
The death of a young black man who was shot in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car has caused uproar among the black community in Arkansas, a US state with deep racial faultlines.
Mr Carter was pulled over by police late last month and searched twice by officers who discovered a small $10 bag of marijuana. He was also wanted for skipping probation on another drugs charge.
Mr Carter had his hands cuffed behind his back and put into a police car.
Michael Yates, the police chief, has conceded that a “very unusual” chain of events led up to the later discovery of Mr Carter was found slumped in the back of the police car with a bullet wound in his head.
He later died in hospital.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9462644/Outrage-in-US-as-black-man-is-shot-in-head-while-handcuffed-in-police-car.html
December 13th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
McClain was never in line for the Heisman, but he was a Butkus award winner, an All-American and a two-time All-SEC.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I doubt they get k. Long, the roots r dying ever since al died. Woodso and uncle Steve wiz were shown the door. And it looks like McKenzie is totally against Al’s way, fkn punk prob wants to change their colors and names. Prob wants to name them the pelicans or flamingos like the no b ball team lol. Fugg u reggie.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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we who?
besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain
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Why do I get the feeling this is leading to a reparations debate?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I doubt they get k. Long, the roots r dying ever since al died. Woodso and uncle Steve wiz were shown the door. And it looks like McKenzie is totally against Al’s way, fkn punk prob wants to change their colors and names. Prob wants to name them the pelicans or flamingos like the no b ball team lol. Fugg u reggie.
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If that’s the way you feel, then go root for another team. Goodbye.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.
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We have another needs. What use is a good corner when the other team can run the ball all day and their quarterback can sit in the pocket for years looking for an open receiver?
Shore up the front seven FIRST, then we can worry about the secondary.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.
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With a roster that needs everything you don’t believe in best player available?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Nobody respects DA not even hus own asst coaches…
December 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Twenty year-old Mary Turner, 8 months pregnant at the time and whose husband had been killed in this “lynching rampage” on Sunday, May 19th, made the mistake of publicly objecting to her husband’s murder. She also had the audacity to threaten to swear out warrants for those responsible. Those “unwise remarks,” as the area papers put it, enraged locals. Consequently, Mary Turner fled for her life only to be caught and taken to a place called Folsom’s Bridge on the Brooks and Lowndes Counties’ shared border. To punish her, at Folsom’s Bridge the mob tied Mary Turner by her ankles, hung her upside down from a tree, poured gasoline on her and burned off her clothes. One member of the mob then cut her stomach open and her unborn child dropped to the ground where it was reportedly stomped on and crushed. Her body was then riddled with gunfire from the mob. Later that night she and her baby were buried ten feet away from where they were murdered. The makeshift grave was marked with only a “whiskey bottle” with a “cigar” stuffed in its neck.
Some may ask, why bring up “the past” and these atrocities now? “It happened so long ago.” We think we should bring them up and face them for many reasons. We should bring them up to acknowledge the lives lost, along with the reality that no justice has ever occurred for the victims, families and many others affected by these events. We should bring them up because few in the region speak publicly about these events yet wonder why race relations in the area are often so strained. We should bring them up because to date these events remain one of the most gruesome cases of racism and racial terrorism in this nation’s history, yet they are omitted from the history we teach our children. We should bring them up because Mary Turner’s murder remains one of the most horrific crimes committed against a human being in this nation’s history. We should bring them up because so far not one historical marker or grave stone is in place to acknowledge these events and the lives lost during that week of terror in May of 1918. And last but not least, we should bring these events up so we can face our collective past in order to see how it might affect our collective present and future. Please help us do that.
http://www.maryturner.org/
December 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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we who?
besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain
>> @missesdick. you should open a book. Arab muslims were the first to have black african slaves in the 10th century. the arabs showed the europeans how to do it. Mohammed the prophet had black african slaves. would you call arabs owning BLACK african slaves racism? you don’t history kid. and i don’t have to copy and paste crap like you do. I’m a self educated man and you are not on my level. run along
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raiders have the worse secondary in the nfl. They need a young corner with 1st round type talent to groom.
Cant neglect that anymore. U have huff playing corner
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
if you watch seattle they have gone away from the zbs a lot, they don’t use it as much.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
wilson from giants runs 4.28…started to use him…but Reggie and DA let jones rot…
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.
Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!
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Youre not serious are you?
Teo was only a runner up because all of the top preseason candidates fell on their faces. Look who McClain was up against his year.
Riff…no I am not serious…but was McClain up for the Heisman? Someone mentioned drafting Johnny Manziel in 2 years…lol
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Maybe not Manziel, but those couple draft classes look like they may be stacked at QB if all of these young guys continue to develop in college.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.
_______________
With a roster that needs everything you don’t believe in best player available?
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Very good corners are certainly at a premium in this league and you can’t just have one, you need at least two or three, so I would think corner would certainly be on the table, considering we have none.
But with sooooo many problems BPA is definitely a good approach.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
242.Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.
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With a roster that needs everything you don’t believe in best player available?
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I agree with that. Forget about position, just take the best guy availiable.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.
_______________
With a roster that needs everything you don’t believe in best player available?
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Not in this case.
Pass Rush is WAY more vital.
The first 3 picks need to be 2 rushers and a Olineman.
Start in the trenches.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
KC has 8 starters out….they are throwing the game to make sure they get the #1 pick.
We should start Pryor…
December 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Raiders giving up 259 yds per game through the air, thats with no pass rush at all.
I agree with DAV, got to build that Dline up.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
although the espn announcer shouldn’t have made these comments on air the truth is this is how many people speak in private. reminds me of the hatred amongst many mexicans towards de la hoya. he wasn’t “hood” enough for most, seemed like he had a good upbringing, wasn’t getting into street fights even though he was still from the hood. Him quitting vs pacquiao and running the last two rounds v Trinidad made me lose some respect for him as a fighter but he was hated well before that. Also reminds me of Mexican Americans reverence of Mark Sanchez. Many say he’s “white washed”, grew up privaleged as if it’s a bad thing.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Hey, if there is no difference in potential between 3rd round CB and 3rd round DE, then yeah, take the DE….but if the CB is appreciably better, you take him.
It is going to take several drafts to replenish this roster.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
wilson from giants runs 4.28…started to use him…but Reggie and DA let jones rot…
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They gave Jones a carry in the first game of the season. Fumble. Grab some bench.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
254.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Raiders giving up 259 yds per game through the air, thats with no pass rush at all.
I agree with DAV, got to build that Dline up.
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We gotta build up a whole lot of things. Last year when we were top 10 in sacks that didn’t help our defense either.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Not the only one that thinks that reggie is a f up , duck . He bleeds grn and yellow…
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
It makes no sense to start PALMER this week.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Palmer will retire in 3 weeks,..Pryor will be cut.
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Norco don’t you have something better to do than come in here and sound like a damn fool?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
260.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
It makes no sense to start PALMER this week.
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Then it’s almost guaranteed that Dennis Allen will do just that.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
We also dont run enough, dmac only got 11 carries last game, you cant expect a player to have a bog day on the ground with 11 carries youve got to atleast give him 20 a game.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
must be a visor thing…adams fumbled hid first pung returns and goodson his first carries…try again.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Rhodes, Banks, or Amerson
2- OLB: Dion Jordan or A Barr
3- DE: Brandon Jenkins
4- OT: K Long if he was available or RB Michael Dyer
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
@Dakota
So are you starting DMAC in FF? Would you?
I have Forte, Morris and DMAC…the Raider in me wants to start him, logic says no.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
254.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Raiders giving up 259 yds per game through the air, thats with no pass rush at all.
I agree with DAV, got to build that Dline up.
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We gotta build up a whole lot of things. Last year when we were top 10 in sacks that didn’t help our defense either.
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Doesnt matter how good the CBs are, if the QB has all day to throw he will shred you. Period.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
260.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
It makes no sense to start PALMER this week.
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I can’t think of much, unless they are afraid it will pizz Palmer off going into next year.
But even then….
December 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
his first..lol
December 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
must be a visor thing…adams fumbled hid first pung returns and goodson his first carries…try again.
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Were they also fumbling in practice and not knowing the playbook and pass protections?
This isnt Madden. You dont just plug a guy in.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Mctroll20 is that you visor guy?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
you were at practice? or do you just believe visors?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
267.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
254.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Raiders giving up 259 yds per game through the air, thats with no pass rush at all.
I agree with DAV, got to build that Dline up.
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We gotta build up a whole lot of things. Last year when we were top 10 in sacks that didn’t help our defense either.
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Doesnt matter how good the CBs are, if the QB has all day to throw he will shred you. Period.
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Last year we were i think 7th in Sacks. Like i said our problems go a lot deeper than just a Pass rusher.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
We do have to build plenty of things up but if we have no pass rush, everything else is susceptible to giving up big plays.
Show me the best CB in the draft
And i’ll assure you he can’t cover an NFL WR for 5 or 6 seconds.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Rhodes, Banks, or Amerson
2- OLB: Dion Jordan or A Barr
3- DE: Brandon Jenkins
4- OT: K Long if he was available or RB Michael Dyer
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Jordan wont be there in the 2nd. Long wont be there in the 4th.
Anything with a CB in the 1st round in regards to the Raiders needs toilet paper attatched to it.
With all due respect..
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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Really dumb comment
==============================================
How so? There is nobody alive who was ever an American slave, and almost nobody who was the child of one. Yet I keep hearing the “We were brought here in chains” refrain way too bloody often whenever Affirmative Action and whatnot is discussed. Go check out Bill Cosby’s “Pound Cake” speech and some of what he talks about. There’s nothing wrong at all with taking control of your own destiny and refusing to let society grind you into the dirt.
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Basically what you are saying is that in a race that black people are running with ankle weights attached and with white people having been given a 300 year head start that black people should just catch up. Sure some people would be strong enough and fast enough to, but when the odds are not even you can not expect an even result. Black people should not play the victim role, but they must understand the circumstances and fight to change them.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
266.DutchRaider77 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
@Dakota
So are you starting DMAC in FF? Would you?
I have Forte, Morris and DMAC…the Raider in me wants to start him, logic says no.
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McFadden is going for 150 yards and 2 TDs this weekend. KC is signing up CLF players to start because they are throwing the final three games to make sure they get the #1 pick.
Start him.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
The was last year.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
CB and pass rusher are both needed equally. Just go BPA.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Goodell wants to add more teams to the playoff?….. Kind of a Goat bowl?…we might qualify …
December 13th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
wilson from giants runs 4.28…started to use him…but Reggie and DA let jones rot…
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You are confusing a real GM and HC with a binch of bungling idiots running this team. Who else would cause the demise of their own best player by running a scheme he struggles in and then hold out the backups so gthey can’t be a factor either. When the media begged to see Marcel Reece the response was “what for?”.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
267.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
254.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Raiders giving up 259 yds per game through the air, thats with no pass rush at all.
I agree with DAV, got to build that Dline up.
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We gotta build up a whole lot of things. Last year when we were top 10 in sacks that didn’t help our defense either.
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Doesnt matter how good the CBs are, if the QB has all day to throw he will shred you. Period.
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Last year we were i think 7th in Sacks. Like i said our problems go a lot deeper than just a Pass rusher.
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I dont believe sacks are the only measure in regards to getting after the QB.
What did we rank in 3rd down%?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
duck,
bill cosby made his entire fortune entertaining white people
he is not a person that is changing anything of importance for black people.
he does not speak for black peole, he is for the status quo
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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Really dumb comment
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How so? There is nobody alive who was ever an American slave, and almost nobody who was the child of one. Yet I keep hearing the “We were brought here in chains” refrain way too bloody often whenever Affirmative Action and whatnot is discussed. Go check out Bill Cosby’s “Pound Cake” speech and some of what he talks about. There’s nothing wrong at all with taking control of your own destiny and refusing to let society grind you into the dirt.
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I raped your mother before you were born and the PTSD caused her to commit suicide, but that was ages ago and no one who was affected by it is alive now, can’t we just move on and be pals?
That’s what you sound like
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Goodell wants to add more playoff games but he also worries about players being injured and ect.
He’s not the Good’ell
He’s the Devil’dell
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
rediaR Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
CB and pass rusher are both needed equally. Just go BPA.
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Needed yes, equally no.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Hmmm, that article on Nnamdi said that the CBs can’t cover long enough to allow the pass rush to get to the QB.
We are saying the d-line needs to get to the QB so protect the CBs.
Chicken or the egg argument.
Take the BPA…..which I think in the first round is going to be D-line anyhow based on mock drafts.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe sacks are the only measure in regards to getting after the QB.
What did we rank in 3rd down%?
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Probably horrible. But you seem to think Pass Rush is a priority. Truth is we have priority on every level. Dline, LB’s, CB’s, Safties
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
duck,
bill cosby made his entire fortune entertaining white people
he is not a person that is changing anything of importance for black people.
he does not speak for black peole, he is for the status quo
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I could easily counter his bill cosby with tim wise, but it’s not even worth a fight. People that have it all can never sympathize with people that have to fight for everything they have
December 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
DT/DE
DE/DT
Should be our selections in the first few rounds.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
We had a pass rush last year and still sucked
December 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
although the espn announcer shouldn’t have made these comments on air the truth is this is how many people speak in private. reminds me of the hatred amongst many mexicans towards de la hoya. he wasn’t “hood” enough for most, seemed like he had a good upbringing, wasn’t getting into street fights even though he was still from the hood. Him quitting vs pacquiao and running the last two rounds v Trinidad made me lose some respect for him as a fighter but he was hated well before that. Also reminds me of Mexican Americans reverence of Mark Sanchez. Many say he’s “white washed”, grew up privaleged as if it’s a bad thing.
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i cant speak for Mexicans or anyone else
December 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe sacks are the only measure in regards to getting after the QB.
What did we rank in 3rd down%?
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Probably horrible. But you seem to think Pass Rush is a priority. Truth is we have priority on every level. Dline, LB’s, CB’s, Safties
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It is.
The game of football today is all about passing.
You have to have the basic foundation of a rush or the others dont matter.
There is enough talent in the secondary to get us by this draft IMO.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
duck,
bill cosby made his entire fortune entertaining white people
he is not a person that is changing anything of importance for black people.
he does not speak for black peole, he is for the status quo
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I could easily counter his bill cosby with tim wise, but it’s not even worth a fight. People that have it all can never sympathize with people that have to fight for everything they have
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well said
they shouldnt bring up race if they dont want to look in the miror
December 13th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
1st round should be RT, can’t really go wrong with the position at this point but we need a RT bad.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
The QB must go down, and he must go down hard.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe sacks are the only measure in regards to getting after the QB.
What did we rank in 3rd down%?
——
Probably horrible. But you seem to think Pass Rush is a priority. Truth is we have priority on every level. Dline, LB’s, CB’s, Safties
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It is.
The game of football today is all about passing.
You have to have the basic foundation of a rush or the others dont matter.
There is enough talent in the secondary to get us by this draft IMO
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So then why were we so bad last year with a decent pass rush?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Missdick was embarrassed and claimed his handle was hijacked. Can we get a green beanie for missdick?
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Do you have any Raider takes, dumbass troll?
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THANK YOU. “hijacked” ridiculous and stupid hype
December 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
I have seen QBs pass the ball against our CB within a couple of seconds after the snap…..if you can’t cover even that long how are the pass rushers supposed to get to the QB?
Then i have seen the QB drop back for seemingly 12 seconds….how are you supposed to cover that long?
We just suck at EVERYTHING!
FIRE THE COACHING STAFFFFFFFF!!!!!!! CUT ALL THE PLAYERS!!!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
it is mcvisor…lol
December 13th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Look at our last draft.
OG
OLB
DE
WR
DT
MLB
December 13th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Our Pass defense is Fkn horrible….. Beyond horrible..
December 13th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
buy one get three free nice promo reggie…throw in some free drinks while your at it…
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
142.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
So Todd Mcshays mock draft came out. But he said alot can change in 3 months.
he has Star Louteli going 1 overall
he has Damontre Moore going 2 overall.
He has Bejorn Waerner going to Raiders at 3. Manti going 11th but he said he is a top 5 player on his board.
I really dont want Werner. We dont need another shaunnseey. We need speed rushers guys like aldon smith or von miller types. Dion jordan would be nice who he has going 8th overall.
Guess what. Anthony barr fans McShay said he is eligble to come out in the draft if he he decides. Would be a top 20 pick.
I wouldnt mind trading down getting more picks and getting TEO’ at 10.
^^^^^^^^
Te’o is as close to a sure thing as possible in this draft within the top 10 picks IMO.
Love the kid….all heart and talent to boot….sideline to sideline player….smart…can blitz…can cover….is a leader and captain and will not quit! 4 down LB.
Te’o is the complete opposite of McLain.
Raiders need that type of player
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe sacks are the only measure in regards to getting after the QB.
What did we rank in 3rd down%?
——
Probably horrible. But you seem to think Pass Rush is a priority. Truth is we have priority on every level. Dline, LB’s, CB’s, Safties
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It is.
The game of football today is all about passing.
You have to have the basic foundation of a rush or the others dont matter.
There is enough talent in the secondary to get us by this draft IMO
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So then why were we so bad last year with a decent pass rush?
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Thats why I asked you about 3rd down%
We might have had a decent rush sometimes, but it wasnt there when we really needed it.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
severeraiderz Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
duck,
bill cosby made his entire fortune entertaining white people
he is not a person that is changing anything of importance for black people.
he does not speak for black peole, he is for the status quo
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I could easily counter his bill cosby with tim wise, but it’s not even worth a fight. People that have it all can never sympathize with people that have to fight for everything they have
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well said
they shouldnt bring up race if they dont want to look in the miror
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speaking of race; this ish was priceless
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/espn-commentator-on-rg3-hes-kind-of-black-but-hes-not-really/
“Is he (RGIII) a brother, or is he a cornball brother?,” Parker said. “He’s not really. He’s black, he does his thing, but he’s not really down with the cause. He’s not one of us. He’s kind of black, but he’s not really like the kind of guy you really want to hang out with…..“I want to find about him,” Parker said. “I don’t know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiancee. Then there was all this talk about he’s a Republican, which there’s no information at all. I’m just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue””
-Rob Parker
““RG3, the ethnicity or the color of his fiancee is none of our business, it’s irrelevant, he can live his life in whatever way he chooses. The braids that he has in his hair, that’s his business, that’s his life, he can live his life. I don’t judge someone’s blackness based on those kinds of things. I just don’t do that. I’m not that kind of guy.”
-Stephen A. Smith
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Are you people still hoping Huff starts at CB next season?
lmao
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
SAY NO TO TE’O
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
There is no record anywhere on earth of black people in amerikkka, such a system to enslave or dominate anyone.
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So that’s the definition of racism you subscribe to ?
You can only be a racist if you’re enslaving or dominating someone ?
Nonsense.
You don’t need to enslave or dominate to be a racist.
You just have to be prejudiced against or hate an individual or group based solely on race.
One doesn’t don’t have to enslave, dominate, or even have any power to wield in order to be a racist.
There’s plenty of racism in ‘Amerikkka’ and it isn’t something unique to whites alone.
Denying that there’s black racism is moronic.
But if it makes you happy to think that black racists don’t exist (and can’t exist) have fun with that.
I know better.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Do we even have a Dozen players on this whole team that are worth keeping…..?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
142.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
So Todd Mcshays mock draft came out. But he said alot can change in 3 months.
he has Star Louteli going 1 overall
he has Damontre Moore going 2 overall.
He has Bejorn Waerner going to Raiders at 3. Manti going 11th but he said he is a top 5 player on his board.
I really dont want Werner. We dont need another shaunnseey. We need speed rushers guys like aldon smith or von miller types. Dion jordan would be nice who he has going 8th overall.
Guess what. Anthony barr fans McShay said he is eligble to come out in the draft if he he decides. Would be a top 20 pick.
I wouldnt mind trading down getting more picks and getting TEO’ at 10.
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Te’o is as close to a sure thing as possible in this draft within the top 10 picks IMO.
Love the kid….all heart and talent to boot….sideline to sideline player….smart…can blitz…can cover….is a leader and captain and will not quit! 4 down LB.
Te’o is the complete opposite of McLain.
Raiders need that type of player
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Waerner and Moore would be good. Them trading down for extra picks and getting Bama OL Barrett Jones, even better.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
SS Branch
FS Huff
CB Adams
CB Ross
NB Hanson
That is enough to get us bye this draft.
Might see a late round CB, but nothing early.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
308.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
SAY NO TO TE’O
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SAY YES TO TE’O (if we trade down to pick 10 or later)!
December 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
fingers Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Do we even have a Dozen players on this whole team that are worth keeping…..?
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DMC
Reece
Moore
Myers
Criner
Streater
Veldheer
Wiz
Houston
Bryant
Wheeler
Burris
Adams
Branch
December 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Look at our last draft.
OG
OLB
DE
WR
DT
MLB
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Classic BPA
December 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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we who?
besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain
>> @missesdick. you should open a book. Arab muslims were the first to have black african slaves in the 10th century. the arabs showed the europeans how to do it. Mohammed the prophet had black african slaves. would you call arabs owning BLACK african slaves racism? you don’t history kid. and i don’t have to copy and paste crap like you do. I’m a self educated man and you are not on my level. run along
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i didnt say the trans atlantic slave trade was the first slaverey.
but the trans atlantic slave trade was the firts to be so destructive and comprehensive.
Arabs still enslave black people in certain parts of the world.
arabs never forced name change, or packed us in ships, like sardines barred marriage or parenting
it isnt nearly the same
study up
besides how does any of this relate to your point about so called black racist?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
311.RaiderSam Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
142.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
So Todd Mcshays mock draft came out. But he said alot can change in 3 months.
he has Star Louteli going 1 overall
he has Damontre Moore going 2 overall.
He has Bejorn Waerner going to Raiders at 3. Manti going 11th but he said he is a top 5 player on his board.
I really dont want Werner. We dont need another shaunnseey. We need speed rushers guys like aldon smith or von miller types. Dion jordan would be nice who he has going 8th overall.
Guess what. Anthony barr fans McShay said he is eligble to come out in the draft if he he decides. Would be a top 20 pick.
I wouldnt mind trading down getting more picks and getting TEO’ at 10.
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Te’o is as close to a sure thing as possible in this draft within the top 10 picks IMO.
Love the kid….all heart and talent to boot….sideline to sideline player….smart…can blitz…can cover….is a leader and captain and will not quit! 4 down LB.
Te’o is the complete opposite of McLain.
Raiders need that type of player
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Waerner and Moore would be good. Them trading down for extra picks and getting Bama OL Barrett Jones, even better.
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I like Werner. Might be a bit raw though.
I like Moore as well.
Raiders need a true leader and quaterback of a rebuilt defense, that starts at MIKE/ILB position IMO.
Especially since it is obvious McClain is going to be done here.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
308.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
SAY NO TO TE’O
+++++++++++
SAY YES TO TE’O (if we trade down to pick 10 or later)!
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Non rush LBs that high have historically been busts more times than not. We cant afford another.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Rhodes, Banks, or Amerson
2- OLB: Dion Jordan or A Barr
3- DE: Brandon Jenkins
4- OT: K Long if he was available or RB Michael Dyer or NT
DE: Brandon Jenkins was considered 1st round talent before his injury
OLB: Barr can be our V Miller type of player
CB: we need a CB and it’s cheaper to draft one
2 pass rushers and a CB (3 starters) to help fix our defense.
We can add a NT later in the draft or we csn sign one in FA.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
There is great depth on the DLine/DE/stand up OLB positions in this years draft.
Not so much depth at the MLB/ILB spots.
Good depth at the CB spots also.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Dmc and Branch are borderline…..was a big fan of a Branchs …. He’s had a tough time tackling and making plays this year….
December 13th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
319.Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Trade down:
1- CB: Milliner, Rhodes, Banks, or Amerson
2- OLB: Dion Jordan or A Barr
3- DE: Brandon Jenkins
4- OT: K Long if he was available or RB Michael Dyer or NT
DE: Brandon Jenkins was considered 1st round talent before his injury
OLB: Barr can be our V Miller type of player
CB: we need a CB and it’s cheaper to draft one
2 pass rushers and a CB (3 starters) to help fix our defense.
We can add a NT later in the draft or we csn sign one in FA.
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I think Jordan is going be gone by middle to end of 1st round. Won’t last to be a 2nd rounder I think.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
NFL.com had us ranked 13th in sacks given up.
Thats with a pass happy offense that was missing Khalif Barnes for awhile.
I think we could sign some FA’s to improve our line and protect whoever our QB is next year.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Brandon Jenkins would be a good 3rd round pick for Raiders.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Well if they decide to keep McClain and move to a 3-4 and somehow draft Teo with out reacing. we could have one of the best LB corps in the leage::::
burris McClain Teo Wheeler
December 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Well if they decide to keep McClain and move to a 3-4 and somehow draft Teo with out reacing. we could have one of the best LB corps in the leage::::
burris McClain Teo Wheeler
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Wheeler isnt a 3-4 OLB.
Burris is still raw, but looks good.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
DE: Brandon Jenkins
DT: Houston
DT: Bryant, NT from FA or rookie
DE: Shaughnessy
OLB: Barr
MLB: ?
OLB: Burris
CB: 1st round rookie
CB: Adams, Ross, Chekwa, or FA
FS: Huff
SS: Branch
December 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Dion Jordan
Corey Lemonier
Kyle Long
…. > Any other draft.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
DE: Brandon Jenkins
DT: Houston
DT: Bryant, NT from FA or rookie
DE: Shaughnessy
OLB: Barr
MLB: ?
OLB: Burris
CB: 1st round rookie
CB: Adams, Ross, Chekwa, or FA
FS: Huff
SS: Branch
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We’re staying 4-3 and dont keep Wheeler?
Please, pass that good good player..
December 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
There is no record anywhere on earth of black people in amerikkka, such a system to enslave or dominate anyone.
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So that’s the definition of racism you subscribe to ?
You can only be a racist if you’re enslaving or dominating someone ?
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it isnt my definition
it is the definition and purpose of those that invented the terminology in the first place
Im sorry they didnt teach you that in english class
racism is a power construct not an emotion
dont take my word for it
take a look
Biography of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
Physician, anthropologist, naturalist, physiologist, historian and bibliographer, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach is generally regarded as the founder of physical and scientific anthropology. He first used the word ”race” in 1775 to classify humans into five divisions: Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Blumenbach also coined the term “Caucasian” because he believed that the Caucasus region of Asia Minor produced “the most beautiful race of men”.
so you can clearly see i have nothing to do with any definition i only use the language as it is intended to be used
December 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).
Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
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we who?
besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain
>> @missesdick. you should open a book. Arab muslims were the first to have black african slaves in the 10th century. the arabs showed the europeans how to do it. Mohammed the prophet had black african slaves. would you call arabs owning BLACK african slaves racism? you don’t history kid. and i don’t have to copy and paste crap like you do. I’m a self educated man and you are not on my level. run along
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i didnt say the trans atlantic slave trade was the first slaverey.
but the trans atlantic slave trade was the firts to be so destructive and comprehensive.
Arabs still enslave black people in certain parts of the world.
arabs never forced name change, or packed us in ships, like sardines barred marriage or parenting
it isnt nearly the same
study up
besides how does any of this relate to your point about so called black racist?
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Chattel slavery is a whole different and twisted type of slavery
December 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
There is great depth on the DLine/DE/stand up OLB positions in this years draft.
Not so much depth at the MLB/ILB spots.
Good depth at the CB spots also.
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Knowing we need everything, and also knowing we CANNOT have a bust in this spot, I like the Dline prospects or possibly Joeckel the OT from A&M.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
werner-instant impact. he’s a monster using speed and or power to relentlessly get to the qb excellent run stopper as well in a 4-3
moore-the best pass rushing prospect in the draft, super fast relentless but seems to lack discipline and size against the run although he does have the frame to add bulk
te’o-plays with passion and is solid in all aspects. Has the size, speed, brain and work ethic to be elite but doesn’t wow you
December 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
See??
This team needs leaders on defense and LB’s!
Te’o would fill a big void for Raiders.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Are the Raids last in sacks ?
If we’re not, we’re close.
Think a pass rushing DE or hybrid LB might be in order.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
We have so many holes, can’t go wrong with position in the 1st round. It will all depend on the Player. Let’s hope Reggie hits a homer with his 1st, 1st rounder.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Well if they decide to keep McClain and move to a 3-4 and somehow draft Teo with out reacing. we could have one of the best LB corps in the leage::::
burris McClain Teo Wheeler
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Wheeler isnt a 3-4 OLB.
Burris is still raw, but looks good.
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Just throwing out scenarios it would be nice if burris develops into a good LB. keep wheeler for sure and look for help on the inside.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Raider O Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
DE: Brandon Jenkins
DT: Houston
DT: Bryant, NT from FA or rookie
DE: Shaughnessy
OLB: Barr
MLB: ?
OLB: Burris
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Houston has not played inside, Bryant has been pushed off the line like Yippies at the 68 convention in Chicago, and you an unknown quantity at MLB. What is this the twinkie defense? Soft and creamy in the middle?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
revised:
werner-instant impact. he’s a monster using speed and or power to relentlessly get to the qb excellent run stopper as well in a 4-3 but is he fast enough?
moore-the best pass rushing prospect in the draft, super fast relentless but seems to lack discipline and size against the run although he does have the frame to add bulk
te’o-plays with passion and is solid in all aspects. Has the size, speed, brain and work ethic to be elite but doesn’t wow you
December 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I hope we Draft a RT in the 1st, if not a LB. Stop gap pass rusher can be found in FA.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
DE: HOUSTON/BILUKIDI
NT:
DE: BRYANT/SHAUGHNESSY
OLB:JORDAN
/WHEELER
ILB:BURRIS
ILB:MCCLAIN
OLB:LEMONIER
CB: ADAMS
CB: ROSS
NB: HANSON
FS: HUFF
SS: BRANCH
December 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Barr (Chico’s guy) is raw, but he is talented and had 10+ sacks this year.
Trade down:
1- CB Milliner, Rhodes, Banks, or Amerson
2- OLB A Barr or D Jordan if he was available
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
Add a NT and MLB in FA/ later in the draft.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I hope we Draft a RT in the 1st, if not a LB. Stop gap pass rusher can be found in FA.
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LOL..
Really? So theres just a gaggle of pass rushers sitting around wishing they were playing?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
werner-instant impact. he’s a monster using speed and or power to relentlessly get to the qb excellent run stopper as well in a 4-3
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I think Werner is just what we need around here. He can make the entire defense better.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Looking at a top 3 pick and you want a RT?!?!?!
WOW..
December 13th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
It’s cheaper to find quality starters at MLB and NT in FA than CBs or pass rushers.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
343.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I hope we Draft a RT in the 1st, if not a LB. Stop gap pass rusher can be found in FA.
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LOL..
Really? So theres just a gaggle of pass rushers sitting around wishing they were playing?
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Burgess and Wimbley off the top of my head. Chris Clemons is another out of FA
December 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
345.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Looking at a top 3 pick and you want a RT?!?!?!
WOW..
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Wow is you thinking we can build up this line with more Brisel type players.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
woulnd’t be mad at lotuleiei either
December 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
mistic: you said white people invented racism. they did not invent this: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. sorry genius but that has been around since humans were hunter gatherers.you can’t prove otherwise. and as far a slavery goes you need a fresh perspective. you’re slave to your government right now and to media and to pop culture. you can’t even see it. but i digress, fear of the unknown was not invented by white people and THAT was your original argument. then you changed your argument and ran from me there but your first point was wrong.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
We’ve found Pass rusher before in FA, whens the last good O-Lineman we’ve picked up? Brisel? Carlisle? Barnes?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
woulnd’t be mad at lotuleiei either
> yeah that dude would sit on you and you’d be lost forever.Jk, STAR or Te’o has to be the pick as of right now. could change. Star would make our pass rushers better by default.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
“Is he (RGIII) a brother, or is he a cornball brother?,” Parker said. “He’s not really. He’s black, he does his thing, but he’s not really down with the cause. He’s not one of us. He’s kind of black, but he’s not really like the kind of guy you really want to hang out with…..“I want to find about him,” Parker said. “I don’t know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiancee. Then there was all this talk about he’s a Republican, which there’s no information at all. I’m just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue””
-Rob Parker
““RG3, the ethnicity or the color of his fiancee is none of our business, it’s irrelevant, he can live his life in whatever way he chooses. The braids that he has in his hair, that’s his business, that’s his life, he can live his life. I don’t judge someone’s blackness based on those kinds of things. I just don’t do that. I’m not that kind of guy.”
-Stephen A. Smith
>> RGIII is a republican!! thats funny. bet mistic wont be riding his ballsack anymore. RGIII is an intelligent kid i might even sport his jersey.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Found 3 pass rushers in the last 10 years.
Nice ratio.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Teo plays behind a great Dline.
He would be neutralized with the Raiders unless we upgrade our Dline.
(See McClain- He played behing a great dLine as well.)
That is why the Packers draft Raji. Makes everyone else better.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
When’s the last ANY POSITION we’ve signed that has been good?!?!
Phillip Wheeler.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
mistic: you said white people invented racism. they did not invent this: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. sorry genius but that has been around since humans were hunter gatherers.you can’t prove otherwise.
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did you miss wher i posted the bio of THE MAN THAT INVENTED THE TERM RACE?!?!
This is proof that white people invented the term race and all of its forms.
if you dont know who he is then do some reading on your own.
educate yourself so you may have an informed opinion, or continue to sound like a person engaging in conversation that is above your head
Biography of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
Physician, anthropologist, naturalist, physiologist, historian and bibliographer, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach is generally regarded as the founder of physical and scientific anthropology. He first used the word ”race” in 1775 to classify humans into five divisions: Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Blumenbach also coined the term “Caucasian” because he believed that the Caucasus region of Asia Minor produced “the most beautiful race of men”.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Is he (RGIII) a brother, or is he a cornball brother?,” Parker said. “He’s not really. He’s black, he does his thing, but he’s not really down with the cause. He’s not one of us. He’s kind of black, but he’s not really like the kind of guy you really want to hang out with…..“I want to find about him,” Parker said. “I don’t know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiancee. Then there was all this talk about he’s a Republican, which there’s no information at all. I’m just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue””
-Rob Parker
> thats some black on black crime right there. so if a black dude doesn’t marry a black girl and vote democrat hes not black. thats some sick sh*t to say about somebody.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
“Is he (RGIII) a brother, or is he a cornball brother?,” Parker said. “He’s not really. He’s black, he does his thing, but he’s not really down with the cause. He’s not one of us. He’s kind of black, but he’s not really like the kind of guy you really want to hang out with…..“I want to find about him,” Parker said. “I don’t know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiancee. Then there was all this talk about he’s a Republican, which there’s no information at all. I’m just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue””
-Rob Parker
““RG3, the ethnicity or the color of his fiancee is none of our business, it’s irrelevant, he can live his life in whatever way he chooses. The braids that he has in his hair, that’s his business, that’s his life, he can live his life. I don’t judge someone’s blackness based on those kinds of things. I just don’t do that. I’m not that kind of guy.”
-Stephen A. Smith
>> RGIII is a republican!! thats funny. bet mistic wont be riding his ballsack anymore. RGIII is an intelligent kid i might even sport his jersey.
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watching rgIII revolutionize the qb position has nothing to do with his political affiliation. Political affiliation doesnt determine if a person is black or if i will root for them on a ball field.
I wouldnt care if he was a tea party member.
sports is nothing more than entertainment business, and i dont look for heros in entertainers.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
mistic: you said white people invented racism. they did not invent this: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. sorry genius but that has been around since humans were hunter gatherers.you can’t prove otherwise.
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did you miss wher i posted the bio of THE MAN THAT INVENTED THE TERM RACE?!?!
This is proof that white people invented the term race and all of its forms.
if you dont know who he is then do some reading on your own.
educate yourself so you may have an informed opinion, or continue to sound like a person engaging in conversation that is above your head
Biography of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
Physician, anthropologist, naturalist, physiologist, historian and bibliographer, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach is generally regarded as the founder of physical and scientific anthropology. He first used the word ”race” in 1775 to classify humans into five divisions: Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Blumenbach also coined the term “Caucasian” because he believed that the Caucasus region of Asia Minor produced “the most beautiful race of men”.
>. you can’t dodge you said white people invented racism which has already been defined here, in plain english and now you are switching your little copy paste google argument. why can’t you post an original thought?
December 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Hope Wheeler wants to return.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
17th & 33rd overall pick for Carson Palmer
“Greatest trade ever” – Hue Jackson
#NeverForget
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Hope Wheeler wants to return.
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Im sure he’ll go wherever the money is.
A team like the Saints or Falcons should come calling.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
354.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Found 3 pass rushers in the last 10 years.
Nice ratio.
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Clemons was from 2007, so it’s 3 in the last 5 years
Nice Ratio
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
mcvisor why did you change your name?
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Listening to DA presser on raiders.com : Asked whether he still believes in their scheme decisions despite the failures. He’s quite *curtly* points out that they have had ‘alot of changes’ and he still believes in what they are doing. Meaning? Its not his or the schemes fault, its the players, and expect the whole staff to return next year..
ugghhhh…
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Wheeler is okay….we tend to give more credit than deserved to average players around here, simply because we have seen so many bad players come through over the last 10 years.
Branch is a prime example…..Michael Bush is another….Gallery….Routt…Huff…I can go on and on.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
mistic: did you now that the japanese allow ZERO immigration in their country and their religion actually states that the their island is divine and the rest if us are beneath them? japan as we know it dates back 1500 years? so that would predate european racism and arab racism. i read son and i don’t need google to regurgitate somebody elses points. come up with an original thought? try
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@VicTafur
Knapp thinks offense has made progress, points to injuries & time needed to change system. Hmmm. Tarver also tried to make case to come back…
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
354.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Found 3 pass rushers in the last 10 years.
Nice ratio.
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Clemons was from 2007, so it’s 3 in the last 5 years
Nice Ratio
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Thats still terrible.
And im counting the last 10 years. We have found 3 decent pass rushers.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
17th & 33rd overall pick for Carson Palmer
“Greatest trade ever” – Hue Jackson
#NeverForget
>. but hue got us to 8-8 and just needed a DC and we’d be going to the superbowl this year.hhhahah
December 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
361.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Hope Wheeler wants to return.
+++++++++++
As long as he doesn’t want big money.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
mistic: you said white people invented racism. they did not invent this: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. sorry genius but that has been around since humans were hunter gatherers.you can’t prove otherwise.
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did you miss wher i posted the bio of THE MAN THAT INVENTED THE TERM RACE?!?!
This is proof that white people invented the term race and all of its forms.
if you dont know who he is then do some reading on your own.
educate yourself so you may have an informed opinion, or continue to sound like a person engaging in conversation that is above your head
Biography of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
Physician, anthropologist, naturalist, physiologist, historian and bibliographer, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach is generally regarded as the founder of physical and scientific anthropology. He first used the word ”race” in 1775 to classify humans into five divisions: Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Blumenbach also coined the term “Caucasian” because he believed that the Caucasus region of Asia Minor produced “the most beautiful race of men”.
>. you can’t dodge you said white people invented racism which has already been defined here, in plain english and now you are switching your little copy paste google argument. why can’t you post an original thought?
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you are not making any sense
the man who invented the term was white his name was friedrich blumenbach.
This is the originator of the term, it couldnt be modified and put in dictionaries if it were not first invented by some one.
The term did not exist before blumenbach
I posted the actual history, can you produce anything to refute it other than your opinion?
December 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
17th & 33rd overall pick for Carson Palmer
“Greatest trade ever” – Hue Jackson
#NeverForget
>. but hue got us to 8-8 and just needed a DC and we’d be going to the superbowl this year.hhhahah
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HAH!
December 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
369.CDERaider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@VicTafur
Knapp thinks offense has made progress, points to injuries & time needed to change system. Hmmm. Tarver also tried to make case to come back…
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Loser trying to justify his failures.
FK U KNAPP!!!!!! Take your garbage elsewhere! And take DA with you if he won’t fire you!
December 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
370.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
354.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Found 3 pass rushers in the last 10 years.
Nice ratio.
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Clemons was from 2007, so it’s 3 in the last 5 years
Nice Ratio
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Thats still terrible.
And im counting the last 10 years. We have found 3 decent pass rushers.
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3/5 is terrible? Ok whatever. There’s obviously no negotiating with terrorists.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders OC Knapp says output usually goes up in year 2 of system. But in 3 stops as OC scoring down 1.1 ppg, yards down 4.5 in year 2
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
Good hire by DA right guys? So that will be Lane Kiffin, Jim Mora Jr, Dennis Allen all mistake to hire this guy
December 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
you are not making any sense
the man who invented the term was white his name was friedrich blumenbach.
This is the originator of the term, it couldnt be modified and put in dictionaries if it were not first invented by some one.
The term did not exist before blumenbach
I posted the actual history, can you produce anything to refute it other than your opinion?
> No, you said white people invented RACISM. i don’t care about the term. you dont even understand your own argument. very sad
December 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
375.Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
369.CDERaider Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@VicTafur
Knapp thinks offense has made progress, points to injuries & time needed to change system. Hmmm. Tarver also tried to make case to come back…
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Loser trying to justify his failures.
FK U KNAPP!!!!!! Take your garbage elsewhere! And take DA with you if he won’t fire you!
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LOL, that like me going to a job interview and telling them, “I’m going to suck at my job for at least 3 years, But if i don’t improve then you can fire me.”
December 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
i believe star is a surefire can’t miss prospect of the draft and drafting him and signing a de still leaves a huge whole at mlb without mentioning cb. Drafting Te’o and signing de leaves fills two voids and i believe bryant and houston can man the interior of our dline. I’m starting to feel though if star is there you take him
1. Star
won’t be mad at werner moore or te’o
December 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
In 5 years you found 2 decent pass rushers in Free Agency, both are not even on your team at the moment.
Terrible.
Wimbley was a trade.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Seems like the blog hits a wall every few weeks…
football, football, football..RACE WEEK…football, football, RACE WEEK.
lol
December 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
381.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
In 5 years you found 2 decent pass rushers in Free Agency, both are not even on your team at the moment.
Terrible.
Wimbley was a trade.
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My point was Pass Rushers can be found, not Offensive lineman. But of course, with the glorious ZBS, we only need 4 more Mike Brisel’s and we’ll be set.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders OC Knapp says output usually goes up in year 2 of system. But in 3 stops as OC scoring down 1.1 ppg, yards down 4.5 in year 2
+++++++++++++++++
My head hurts. I hate this dude.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Please don’t show the Raiders on TV anymore, not until they can beat a college Div II team!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Seems like the blog hits a wall every few weeks…
football, football, football..RACE WEEK…football, football, RACE WEEK.
lol
.. na I;m jut being told that i invented fearing people because of their skin color. fear of what you don’t understand based on race didn’t exist in human history until 1500. thats what I;m being told here. its just to stupid to let go
December 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Pass rushers cannot be found .. FA’s go to the highest bidder.
U have to draft em.. or trade a 3rd round pick for one and Reggie is not paying anyone top dollar in FA nor is he trading draft picks. cmon now
December 13th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Well, yes, you do have to pay for Good players in Free Agency. That’s a Given. Eventually we’ll have to pay some players Top dollar to come here.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
381.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
In 5 years you found 2 decent pass rushers in Free Agency, both are not even on your team at the moment.
Terrible.
Wimbley was a trade.
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My point was Pass Rushers can be found, not Offensive lineman. But of course, with the glorious ZBS, we only need 4 more Mike Brisel’s and we’ll be set.
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Or we could just sign a couple Jarvis Moss’s…
December 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
mistic: did you now that the japanese allow ZERO immigration in their country and their religion actually states that the their island is divine and the rest if us are beneath them?
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1. The tiny island of japan has not oppressed black people in any way that in aware of
2. a sovreign nation is free to set their own imigration laws
3. how does any of this support you claim that there is a such thing as a so called black racist?
4. asians oppressing asisns is not racism, just as whites oppressing whites isnt racism.
the term race was invented to distinguish western Europeans from non whites (specifically black afrikans) by friedrich blumenbach
this is matter of documented historical fact
December 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Well, yes, you do have to pay for Good players in Free Agency. That’s a Given. Eventually we’ll have to pay some players Top dollar to come here.
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They have to want to come here first.
Which means stabilizing the organization to not look like clown shoes as it has.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Looking at a top 3 pick and you want a RT?!?!?!
WOW..
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I don’t know if I would take one at 3 overall, maybe trade or take Long later. Or I could just watch Von Miller own the division for the next decade.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Or Kwame Harris, or Cornell Green, or resign Kalif Barnes and Cooper Carlisle. Since it is the ZBS allows these types of players to flourish.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
jarvis jones 2013
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
The best bet for a pass rusher will be the 1st round in this draft. Gotta make a move
December 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Or Kwame Harris, or Cornell Green, or resign Kalif Barnes and Cooper Carlisle. Since it is the ZBS allows these types of players to flourish.
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Carlisle doesnt belong in that bunch.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
avril star houston shaughnessey
trade bryant, there’ll be plenty of takers
December 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
396.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Or Kwame Harris, or Cornell Green, or resign Kalif Barnes and Cooper Carlisle. Since it is the ZBS allows these types of players to flourish.
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Carlisle doesnt belong in that bunch.
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He does not belong in the NFL
December 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Looking at a top 3 pick and you want a RT?!?!?!
WOW..
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I don’t know if I would take one at 3 overall, maybe trade or take Long later. Or I could just watch Von Miller own the division for the next decade.
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Makes more sense to draft a LT top 3 and move Veldheer to RT.
You dont draft a RT in the top 15. Sorry.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
‘we dont need no more rappers, no more entertainers no more basket ball players, we need more scientist, teachers, more doctors, more thinkers”–tupac shakur
December 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
avril will start at least 8 million dollars a year. Thats alot …then again
Get rid of palmer, seymour, kelly, huff and u might be able to make a move with some legit FA’s
December 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
get rid of lechler too.. let him walk. foh with a punter as a leader lmao
December 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
396.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Or Kwame Harris, or Cornell Green, or resign Kalif Barnes and Cooper Carlisle. Since it is the ZBS allows these types of players to flourish.
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Carlisle doesnt belong in that bunch.
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He does not belong in the NFL
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He was a good signing. He’s old now. Its life.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Makes more sense to draft a LT top 3 and move Veldheer to RT.
You dont draft a RT in the top 15. Sorry.
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I mentioned that too, but any Tackle at this point.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
what freakin f@? of a coach….we need to lose the first year to
improve the next…shut the fvck up…
December 13th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Makes more sense to draft a LT top 3 and move Veldheer to RT.
You dont draft a RT in the top 15. Sorry.
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I mentioned that too, but any Tackle at this point.
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Jake Long in the 3rd.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Dion Jordan
Corey Lemonier
Kyle Long
Best scenario.
END STORY.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Yo Whuttup Nerds
The Beeech Dawg just pitched a HELLA HUGE tent watching New Girl on DVR
Zoey Deschanel is rank, but Olivia Munn as the stripper is right down the Beeeeech Dawg’s alley
When it comes to Olivias, obviously I’d let Olivia Wilde blow the Beeeech Lawg first, but as far as the doggy-style position, I’d give them each an equal opportunity
WRECKS N EFFECT
December 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Raider on fellas.
And Troll on to those it applies to.
Cheers to the New Era.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Lincoln Kennedy was a top 10 pick and started at Guard.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Seems like the blog hits a wall every few weeks…
football, football, football..RACE WEEK…football, football, RACE WEEK.
lol
.. na I;m jut being told that i invented fearing people because of their skin color. fear of what you don’t understand based on race didn’t exist in human history until 1500. thats what I;m being told here. its just to stupid to let go
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You are deliberatly changing what i said to fit your agenda.
i didn’t say anything about fearing people based on skin color. or fear based on race or any of that other garbage you are trying to attribute to me.
i gave you the ORIGIN OF THE TERM RACE AND ALL ITS FORMS, AND THE MEANING AND PURPOSE OF ITS INVENTION. I ALSO GAVE YOU THE FOUNDER OF THE TERM.
dislike and fear are emotions they are not racism, which is a system.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
There is no record anywhere on earth of black people in amerikkka, such a system to enslave or dominate anyone.
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So that’s the definition of racism you subscribe to ?
You can only be a racist if you’re enslaving or dominating someone ?
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it isnt my definition
it is the definition and purpose of those that invented the terminology in the first place
Im sorry they didnt teach you that in english class
racism is a power construct not an emotion
dont take my word for it
take a look
Biography of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
Physician, anthropologist, naturalist, physiologist, historian and bibliographer, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach is generally regarded as the founder of physical and scientific anthropology. He first used the word ”race” in 1775 to classify humans into five divisions: Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Blumenbach also coined the term “Caucasian” because he believed that the Caucasus region of Asia Minor produced “the most beautiful race of men”.
so you can clearly see i have nothing to do with any definition i only use the language as it is intended to be used
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No, that’s not what you’re doing.
Your position is that black racism doesn’t exist and can’t exist due to a ‘power construct’.
According to your defintion one can only be racist if one is enslaving or dominating.
Did you get that from Blumenbach ?
Whoever it was that first coined the term ‘race’ and which race he thought most beautiful is completely irrelevant to your ‘power construct’ thesis.
Don’t know how you extrapolate that black racism doesn’t exist today based on whoever it was that first coined the term ‘race’ in the 18th century.
But if it floats your boat to think that black racism can’t and doesn’t exist – sail away Captain.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
mistic: did you now that the japanese allow ZERO immigration in their country and their religion actually states that the their island is divine and the rest if us are beneath them?
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1. The tiny island of japan has not oppressed black people in any way that in aware of
2. a sovreign nation is free to set their own imigration laws
3. how does any of this support you claim that there is a such thing as a so called black racist?
4. asians oppressing asisns is not racism, just as whites oppressing whites isnt racism.
the term race was invented to distinguish western Europeans from non whites (specifically black afrikans) by friedrich blumenbach
this is matter of documented historical fact
>.your original argument was that white people created racism:: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race .
>> and they didn’t invent that. i don’t care about “classification” or hyphen labels. you said white people invented the hatred/ignorance that we all know as racism and you are Full of sh*t. end of dicussion. oh did you know that RGIII voted for Mitt Romney AND is marrying an evil slave owning white woman!! ouch
December 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Draft and spend on D, develop O
cut or trade either mitchell or branch
cut or trade seymour
cut or trade kelly
cut or trade palmer (if leinert or pryor show us something)
draft star or te’o
sign avril
(bryants a fa so he’ll be gone)
December 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
mctroll is DAs visor and reggies bootlicker…haha couldnt stand the heat and changed his handle…
December 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
dislike and fear are emotions they are not racism, which is a system.
>> you’re saying racism ISN’T based on emotions? WTF did you get dropped on your head?
December 13th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
You are deliberatly changing what i said to fit your agenda.
i didn’t say anything about fearing people based on skin color. or fear based on race or any of that other garbage you are trying to attribute to me.
i gave you the ORIGIN OF THE TERM RACE AND ALL ITS FORMS, AND THE MEANING AND PURPOSE OF ITS INVENTION. I ALSO GAVE YOU THE FOUNDER OF THE TERM.
dislike and fear are emotions they are not racism, which is a system.
>> you said white europeans invented racism and that it was their system and only white people use it. thats what you said don’t lie now
December 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
i didn’t say anything about fearing people based on skin color. or fear based on race or any of that other garbage you are trying to attribute to me.
>. FEARING people based on their skin color is a very good definition of racism genius
December 13th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Sell the farm and they will come…Bad Karma Al davis created and it will get even worse…
December 13th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Racism is whack, Bigotry is the way to go.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Looking at a top 3 pick and you want a RT?!?!?!
WOW..
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I don’t know if I would take one at 3 overall, maybe trade or take Long later. Or I could just watch Von Miller own the division for the next decade.
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Makes more sense to draft a LT top 3 and move Veldheer to RT.
You dont draft a RT in the top 15. Sorry.
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I would agree. I like Joeckel, I don’t know if you really want to mess with Veldheer and move him. Best idea would be try to grab a RT later.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RGIII is a republican and is marrying a white woman. Mistic is burning his RGIII jersey right now
December 13th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Build your core through the draft especially on the line of scrimmage.
In the meantime you can use a free agent here and there to buy time till you draft the right guy or let the right guy develop.
Once in a long while will you get a free agent that is a big difference maker(Gannon) and that usually happens when the team releasing the player has a percieved surplus of talent at the position (Grbac). Again, that will only happen when the rest of the base (Oline)is in place.
As a rule free agents are “free” for a reason(injury history, attitude issues, high salary demands etc.) and rarely if ever produce up to their contracts.
On a percentage basis, young hungry rookies with the salary cap in place are much better values.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
So that’s the definition of racism you subscribe to ?
You can only be a racist if you’re enslaving or dominating someone ?
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it isnt my definition
it is the definition and purpose of those that invented the terminology in the first place
Im sorry they didnt teach you that in english class
racism is a power construct not an emotion
dont take my word for it
take a look
Biography of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
Physician, anthropologist, naturalist, physiologist, historian and bibliographer, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach is generally regarded as the founder of physical and scientific anthropology. He first used the word ”race” in 1775 to classify humans into five divisions: Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Blumenbach also coined the term “Caucasian” because he believed that the Caucasus region of Asia Minor produced “the most beautiful race of men”.
so you can clearly see i have nothing to do with any definition i only use the language as it is intended to be used
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No, that’s not what you’re doing.
Your position is that black racism doesn’t exist and can’t exist due to a ‘power construct’.
According to your defintion one can only be racist if one is enslaving or dominating.
Did you get that from Blumenbach ?
Whoever it was that first coined the term ‘race’ and which race he thought most beautiful is completely irrelevant to your ‘power construct’ thesis.
Don’t know how you extrapolate that black racism doesn’t exist today based on whoever it was that first coined the term ‘race’ in the 18th century.
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its very simple
you keep saying that it is my definition.
i proved that it isnt my definition but the definition of the man that invented the term frierich blumenbach
next i demonstrated why the term was invented, by using the inventors own words “Caucasians are the greatest race of men”
That is white supremacy at its core, notice the similarity to hitler and kkk dogma?
this vehicle was invented for the sole use of whites against non whites (black specifically)
you dont have to say ‘whoever it was that invented the term race”. This is not a mystery, it is documented historical fat where the term and concept originated and the man that brought it fourth.
Black people in amerikkka are not in a psotion to exercise this kind of system to oppress any one. There is no history of black people in amerikkka ever wielding this power, only being victimized by it.
THE TERM AND SYSTEM WERE INVENTED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ENSLAVING AND DOMINATING BLACK PEOPLE, AT THE EXCLUSIVE USE FOR THE WHITE SUPREMACIST.
There is only one kind of racism, and only one group in amerikkka that has ever employed it, black people dont fit the description according to the inventor
December 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RGIII is a republican and is marrying a white woman. Mistic is burning his RGIII jersey right now
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who cares who he marries or votes for?
it has no bearing on how i am entertained by him
December 13th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Back to football,
We need great OL, especially at Tackle, not average players who have learned how to hold NFL style. A pass rusher would be great if we were a team that often played with a lead. We need LBs and a tackle, 2 CBs
December 13th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
mistic: HERE is the webster dictionary dedinition of RACISM ok genius: : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race .
>>the dictionary disagree with you mistic. that and common sense afforded to adults of which you have none. end of discussion. oh BTW RGIII is marrying a white girl and voted for Mitt Romney.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RGIII is a republican and is marrying a white woman. Mistic is burning his RGIII jersey right now
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who cares who he marries or votes for?
it has no bearing on how i am entertained by him
>. you care.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
We should fire Knapp, release DL Seymour, Kelly and DE Carter
December 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
i didn’t say anything about fearing people based on skin color. or fear based on race or any of that other garbage you are trying to attribute to me.
>. FEARING people based on their skin color is a very good definition of racism genius
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The inventor of the term used it as a system of classifying people.
if fear was his motivation, i dont know but wouldnt rule it out.
This is still insufficient to prove that so called black racist exist
December 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Not so long ago I read on this blog that DA was a puzzy for not cutting Slo. Then when Slo was reinstated on the 53 people were questioning DA again saying “what kind of message does that send to the rest of the team”
I like what DA is doing with Slo. Sends a pretty clear message.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Brahs, any of you ever get your weiner stuck in a chick’s poop chute while cranking Toad & The Wet Sprocket?
She was all freaked out, but after 3 minutes the mellow grooves softened my ding-dong enough to easily slide out
Celebrated with a pitcher of margaritas and a 6 pack of Doritos Locos tacos in the hot tub
THEM BALLERS BE BALLIN’
December 13th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
mistic: HERE is the webster dictionary dedinition of RACISM ok genius: : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race .
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ummm
that is exactly what fredirich blumenbach invented the term for. that is his definition…..you are slow
classifying humans according to skin color, and using skin color as a measure for capabilities and so on, was used to justify the trade of afrikans.
you just proved what i have been telling you, this definition and term are invented by whites and did not exist in the world until blumenbach literally made it up.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
mistic: HERE is the webster dictionary dedinition of RACISM ok genius: : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race .
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ummm
that is exactly what fredirich blumenbach invented the term for. that is his definition…..you are slow
classifying humans according to skin color, and using skin color as a measure for capabilities and so on, was used to justify the trade of afrikans.
you just proved what i have been telling you, this definition and term are invented by whites and did not exist in the world until blumenbach literally made it up.
>> thats not what you SAID. you said WHITES invented RACISM i don’t give a fuk about the word or who defined the fuking word. i care about the feeling/irrational fear we know of as racism. you must have been dropped on your head.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
430.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
i didn’t say anything about fearing people based on skin color. or fear based on race or any of that other garbage you are trying to attribute to me.
>. FEARING people based on their skin color is a very good definition of racism genius
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The inventor of the term used it as a system of classifying people.
if fear was his motivation, i dont know but wouldnt rule it out.
This is still insufficient to prove that so called black racist exist
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“The inventor of the term used it as a system of classifying people.”
Yes, but he also believed that
“Furthermore he concluded that Africans were not inferior to the rest of mankind ‘concerning healthy faculties of understanding, excellent natural talents and mental capacities’.
‘Finally, I am of opinion that after all these numerous instances I have brought together of negroes of capacity, it would not be difficult to mention entire well-known provinces of Europe, from out of which you would not easily expect to obtain off-hand such good authors, poets, philosophers, and correspondents of the Paris Academy; and on the other hand, there is no so-called savage nation known under the sun which has so much distinguished itself by such examples of perfectibility and original capacity for scientific culture, and thereby attached itself so closely to the most civilized nations of the earth, as the Negro.”
December 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
THE TERM AND SYSTEM WERE INVENTED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ENSLAVING AND DOMINATING BLACK PEOPLE, AT THE EXCLUSIVE USE FOR THE WHITE SUPREMACIST.
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So your position continues to be that blacks can’t be racist bcz of Blumenbach ?
Racism is the exclusive domain of white supremacists.
There are no black racists. There has never been a black racist. There will never be a black racist.
Whatever floats your boat, Captain.
December 13th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
“The inventor of the term used it as a system of classifying people.”
Yes, but he also believed that
“Furthermore he concluded that Africans were not inferior to the rest of mankind ‘concerning healthy faculties of understanding, excellent natural talents and mental capacities’.
‘Finally, I am of opinion that after all these numerous instances I have brought together of negroes of capacity, it would not be difficult to mention entire well-known provinces of Europe, from out of which you would not easily expect to obtain off-hand such good authors, poets, philosophers, and correspondents of the Paris Academy; and on the other hand, there is no so-called savage nation known under the sun which has so much distinguished itself by such examples of perfectibility and original capacity for scientific culture, and thereby attached itself so closely to the most civilized nations of the earth, as the Negro.”
>> classifying people based on race, national origin BLAH BLAH is done today and is used as campaign tactics by liberals. nobody calls that racism so why does mistic assign racism to the medieval europeans for classifying people based on race? it doesn’t fitthe defintion.people are different and will known as different.thats not even racism by his own political agendas definition. liberals live off of race classification. victim group identification. interesting disconnect or just incredible stupidity
December 13th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
THE TERM AND SYSTEM WERE INVENTED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ENSLAVING AND DOMINATING BLACK PEOPLE, AT THE EXCLUSIVE USE FOR THE WHITE SUPREMACIST.
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So your position continues to be that blacks can’t be racist bcz of Blumenbach ?
Racism is the exclusive domain of white supremacists.
There are no black racists. There has never been a black racist. There will never be a black racist.
Whatever floats your boat, Captain.
>> i think mistic in mentally disabled, to a degree. this dude doesn;t even know what racism is despite crying as a victim of it. i feel pity for that man
December 13th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 13th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
You are deliberatly changing what i said to fit your agenda.
i didn’t say anything about fearing people based on skin color. or fear based on race or any of that other garbage you are trying to attribute to me.
i gave you the ORIGIN OF THE TERM RACE AND ALL ITS FORMS, AND THE MEANING AND PURPOSE OF ITS INVENTION. I ALSO GAVE YOU THE FOUNDER OF THE TERM.
dislike and fear are emotions they are not racism, which is a system.
>> you said white europeans invented racism and that it was their system and only white people use it. thats what you said don’t lie now
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While the facts may be a bit skewed from a variety of standpoints. The premise is solid, it appears they invented and excuse to brutalize blacks and tried to establish scientific facts why this was a necessary practice. Whites folks have long believed they were doing blacks folks a favor by enslaving them. Many whites yet ascribe to this theory.
They think if not for a white dominated society that blacks would sink into some grave state of being that they lack significant social skillset essentially a moronic society.
December 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
I love zee blacks
zee whites
zee browns
zee asians
zee arabs
zee persians
zee reds
zee freckled
zee big bone’deded
zee country folk
zee palestinians
zee europeans
zee strippers
zee smoke
zee green
zee peace
December 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
wow…rocq bottom….
funny and sumultaneously pathetic!
“McClain was spotted wearing a green beanie over his helmet, a designation used to indicate that he is a player on the scout team.”
December 13th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I read and comment on this Blog for Raiders news and information never thought this would be a place that seems to talk more about politics and Racist Rants form both sides like you don’t understand we are all Americans and if you don’t stop paying attention to all this bull we may be Noth Koreans soon! or Some other Nation that wants to get rid of all of us black white and other. White and Black are not origins of birth! What are you talking about anyway? Go back in your family history with DNA and you might be shocked at what you find. I just think you are all hipocrites because you have no Family Arms and History to know the truth, so you want to pretend not me! LOL! Do you all realize who was used to build this country? white, Black and all others! If a Alien ship comes down it will probably want to take some of us all for the purpose of labor,ect. Take a childrens asprin and get back to football talk!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
from lol both sides
December 14th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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