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McClain still running with scout team

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 13th, 2012 at 11:50 am in Oakland Raiders.

Middle linebacker Rolando McClain is at practice for the second straight day since his return from a two-game suspension for conduct detrimental to the team. Don’t count on seeing him on the field anytime soon.
McClain was spotted wearing a green beanie over his helmet, a designation used to indicate that he is a player on the scout team.
Coach Dennis Allen said Wednesday that McClain will be a backup linebacker and special teams player. It’s conceivable that McClain won’t even be active for any of Oakland’s remaining three games.
It seems logical that the Raiders are holding on to McClain until teams are allowed to trade in the offseason, at which point they can attempt to get a draft pick in return.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch is the only player not at practice today. He’s still nursing ankle and neck injuries.

– No word from the Raiders yet on whether Sunday’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs sold enough tickets for the game to be televised locally.
Six of Oakland’s first seven regular-season games were televised locally. It’s a stretch to envision the Raiders selling at leasat 85 percent of the tickets for this game, considering the Raiders are 3-10 and the Chiefs 2-11.

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  • big chill

    The only team that successfully uses the ZBS system is Houston and they can’t win playoff games with it, everyone else has gone away from it.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    U kidding me Raiders need MLB in the worse way. U gonna go in with Gaither next year?

    Todd Mcshay said he never uses this with MLB but he said Manti Teo is an ELITE MLB prospect and can take his game to another level to eventually mean to a team what Ray Lewis does to his.

    Thats big time

  • big chill

    I know we need some consistency but i really think this coaching staff has lost this football team, for sure knapp and the ZBS system have to go, and probably Tarver, he always refers to well ask coach that, like he’s not the d coordinator. i just think the team doesn’t respect da.

  • severeraiderz

    The raiders should trade back and

    1. Barkevious Mingo OLB
    2. Anthony Barr OLB (I know 2 OLB’s but we need plenty)*
    3. Oday Aboushi OT
    4. Terry Hawthorne CB

    Pick is from the trade back and Barr may not declare, if not John Jenkins should be the pick

  • manassamauler

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    U kidding me Raiders need MLB in the worse way. U gonna go in with Gaither next year?

    Todd Mcshay said he never uses this with MLB but he said Manti Teo is an ELITE MLB prospect and can take his game to another level to eventually mean to a team what Ray Lewis does to his.

    Thats big time

    >> for me its Star or Te’o. Raiders do need a leader on that defense.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Big Chill Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    The only team that successfully uses the ZBS system is Houston and they can’t win playoff games with it, everyone else has gone away from it.

    ==========================================

    Not true. Seattle, Washington and a number of other teams use it as well. Nearly every team uses it some of the time, because zone-blocking and angle-blocking require different defensive strategies and alternating them keeps the other team off-balance.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist
    ——————————–
    Well, I suggest you read US History

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.

  • Raider Riff

    Goodell wants to now add more teams to the playoffs?

    Does this guy ever suggest anything remotely right?

    His track record is so horrible. Nothing he does is warranted or accepted by fans or the players.

    He is quickly turning into one of the worst commisioners in sports history. He is so desperate to leave his mark, that he just keeps trying to change something that wasnt broken.

    He had the easiest job in the world. Walk into the most well run business in the world and do absolutely NOTHING. Dont change a thing and just let things hum along like the were.

    But instead he’s got his hands all over everything. Getting rid of kickoffs, expanding the season, expanding the playoffs, the bounty scandal, the lockout…..

    GOODELL SUCKS!!!!

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Des Moines, IA

    A Des Moines woman who claims she was subjected to racial slurs by co-workers, including finding a doll whose face was painted black hanging outside her home with threats to quit her job at Deere & Co., has filed a discrimination lawsuit against the company. (via http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-10-31/iowa-woman-sues-deere-alleging-race-discrimination)
    Type: Legal Developments
    Reported: 10/30/2012

  • MiamiRaider78

    I’d like to see McJogger under the supervision of Ray Lewis. Maybe he could help him out.

  • The_Judge37

    ZBS can get away with cheap lineman in the running game, but when it comes time for one on one pass blocking, it’s a different story. We got a decent one in Veldheer, but we need some Blue Chip lineman.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Sandusky, OH

    Police in northern Ohio say they are investigating racist graffiti scrawled in chalk in front of a college basketball coach’s house. Police say vandals wrote “white power” along with a swastika on the sidewalk in front of Bowling Green State University basketball coach Louis Orr’s home over the weekend. Orr is black Orr, the team’s coach since 2007, declined to comment through a university spokesman who said this is the first time anything like this has happened to the coach since he’s been at Bowling Green. A police spokesman said he hopes someone in the community will come forward with information about who did it. (Via Newsday: http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/racist-graffiti-scrawled-at-ohio-coach-s-house-1.4120138)
    Type: Vandalism
    Reported: 10/15/2012

  • manassamauler

    KoolKell Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist
    ——————————–
    Well, I suggest you read US History

    >. your response is emotional and irrational with no validity based on the previous comment. if you hate because of skin color you’re racist and history is irrelevant. and yeah I’m an evil white male and am responsible for your hard life

  • DJ Johnny

    The Raiders couldn’t care less about pleasing the fans.

    They think they can just put any piece of crap team out there and offer ZERO hope for anything to change and the fans will continue to flock to the coliseum and waste their hard earned money on a product that is the laughingstock of the “industry”.

    Maybe they’re right. They get the tv money regardless so why should they care.

  • manassamauler

    KoolKell Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Sandusky, OH

    Police in northern Ohio say they are investigating racist graffiti scrawled in chalk in front of a college basketball coach’s house. Police say vandals wrote “white power” along with a swastika on the sidewalk in front of Bowling Green State University basketball coach Louis Orr’s home over the weekend. Orr is black Orr, the team’s coach since 2007, declined to comment through a university spokesman who said this is the first time anything like this has happened to the coach since he’s been at Bowling Green. A police spokesman said he hopes someone in the community will come forward with information about who did it. (Via Newsday: http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/racist-graffiti-scrawled-at-ohio-coach-s-house-1.4120138)
    Type: Vandalism
    Reported: 10/15/2012

    >. like the black woman in elk grove Ca who vandalized here own house with swastikas to play victim. stupidity is in all people

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Bangor, ME

    Three teens were arrested for spray-painting swastikas and anti- Semitic graffiti on two synagogues on Sept. 21. Two of the teens face felony aggravated criminal mischief charges and the other youth was charged with misdemeanor criminal mischief/vandalism.
    Type: Legal Developments
    Reported: 09/25/2012

  • manassamauler

    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?

    >. no we can’t. give KK your pin number and he’ll leave you alone. its a shakedown.

  • hwnrdr

    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.

    Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!

  • Raider Riff

    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.

    ————–

    I kinda gotta agree here. But not simply because Teo is a all-world MLB.

    Teo doesnt seem to have any of the anti-social issues that McClain has displayed.

    But Teo is a 3-4 ILB on a very talented team. His flaws are masked and his positives are exagerated due to his teammates play. Those are the exact same issues we’ve had with Rolando.

    Other than their personality differences, I see the same issues. We cant turn a 3-4 guy into a 4-3 guy. We dont have the talent up front to make Teo as much of a impact player.

    Maybe if we were willing to keep Rolando and pair him with Teo and switch to a 3-4 it might work, but it looks like that ship has sailed so lets just not make the same mistake twice.

    We messed up with Roland, even with his personality disorder. We’d do the same with Teo simply based on putting him in the wrong scheme. Both guys are not good enough athletes to adjust and change their game to suite the 4-3.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    white supremacy and racism are exclusive property of whites.

    black people dont own or have enough power in amerikka to oppress any one.

    by definition black people are not qualified for the term racist
    ____________
    if you dislike another person based on the persons race it’s racism. my dad is racist, he hates white people. there are plenty of people of color who are racist

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Balderdash.

    There’s plenty of black racists.

    All your ‘power construct’ and ‘mechanism’ nonsense doesn’t change that reality.

    In fact, it’s racist to claim that only whites are racist.

    You’ve got to be delusional to claim that black racists don’t exist.

    You’ve got to be insane to think they can’t exist.

    Pure lunacy.
    ============

    I dont know why this rubs you guys the wrong way but racism is not “dislike’

    dislike is just an emotion it has no power.

    racism is about power

    it was invented by white and used as a system of power over black people.

    It was born with the slave trade.

    It included a comprehensive strategy, including some of the horros listed below

    disrupting communication

    , separating tribal groups so people that spoke the same dialect were not together. people that tried to retain their afrikan language were killed, babies were taught broken backward english and afrikan language was a death sentence.

    disrupting marriage and courtship and kin ship rituals.

    including forcing incest breeding, selling / killing of children and family memebers, forced witness of torture and rape, being barred from marriage or parenting all together, forced to be surrogate parents for slave masters family.

    These are just a few examples of what racism was created to be, and this was the only purpose for its invention.

    There is no record anywhere on earth of black people in amerikkka, such a system to enslave or dominate anyone.

  • Raider Riff

    Hwnrdr Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.

    Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!

    ——-

    Youre not serious are you?

    Teo was only a runner up because all of the top preseason candidates fell on their faces. Look who McClain was up against his year.

  • Raider Riff

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    Palmer and Pryor are gone in 3 weeks,..need a QB,..I like Smith.

    ———–

    What makes you believe this?

  • severeraiderz

    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?

    /////////////////

    Really dumb comment

  • MiamiRaider78

    I find it easier to get along with people through mutual respect, understanding of background, origin, culture or religion. I respect peoples character and behavior and see past skin color.

    Makes life much easier.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I want a speed rusher.. pure speed rusher. then a CB

    Trade down reggie.

    Pick up dion jordan and a corner

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Fort Worth, TX

    “Earnest Lackey boasted that he was a member of the Aryan Brotherhood. But Ronnie Freeman Jr. didn’t believe Lackey, and he made the 34-year-old Burleson man pay for it, Tarrant County sheriff’s investigators say. In July, Lackey was choked, kicked, hog-tied with a yellow cord, beaten and sexually tortured with a soldering iron by Freeman and two other men who also claim membership in the white supremacist gang, according to arrest warrant affidavits obtained by Star-Telegram on Tuesday.” -Via the Fort Worth Star Telegram
    Type: Assault
    Reported: 09/20/2012

  • severeraiderz

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    I want a speed rusher.. pure speed rusher. then a CB

    Trade down reggie.

    Pick up dion jordan and a corner

    ///////////////////

    Mingo is your man

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
    ========

    we who?

    besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain

  • hwnrdr

    Raider Riff Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Hwnrdr Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.

    Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!

    ——-

    Youre not serious are you?

    Teo was only a runner up because all of the top preseason candidates fell on their faces. Look who McClain was up against his year.

    Riff…no I am not serious…but was McClain up for the Heisman? Someone mentioned drafting Johnny Manziel in 2 years…lol

  • Dakota

    This place is a ZOO! Wait….can I say that? I mean you are all animals! Wait….that might upset some animals….shoot, this PC stuff, smh.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Severeraiderz Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?

    /////////////////

    Really dumb comment

    ==============================================

    How so? There is nobody alive who was ever an American slave, and almost nobody who was the child of one. Yet I keep hearing the “We were brought here in chains” refrain way too bloody often whenever Affirmative Action and whatnot is discussed. Go check out Bill Cosby’s “Pound Cake” speech and some of what he talks about. There’s nothing wrong at all with taking control of your own destiny and refusing to let society grind you into the dirt.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    One nfl anaylst said that what the raiders are lacking since wimbley left.

    You have guy who are pure DT/DE like shaunnseey, Houston, Bryant, Kelly.. but no speed rusher off the end.

    Man Al knew what he was doing when he got wimbley.. miss that guy cuz he made the entire DLINE better with his qb pressures

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Outrage in US as black man is shot in head while handcuffed in police car

    The death of a young black man who was shot in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car has caused uproar among the black community in Arkansas, a US state with deep racial faultlines.

    Mr Carter was pulled over by police late last month and searched twice by officers who discovered a small $10 bag of marijuana. He was also wanted for skipping probation on another drugs charge.

    Mr Carter had his hands cuffed behind his back and put into a police car.

    Michael Yates, the police chief, has conceded that a “very unusual” chain of events led up to the later discovery of Mr Carter was found slumped in the back of the police car with a bullet wound in his head.

    He later died in hospital.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9462644/Outrage-in-US-as-black-man-is-shot-in-head-while-handcuffed-in-police-car.html

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    McClain was never in line for the Heisman, but he was a Butkus award winner, an All-American and a two-time All-SEC.

  • DEATHROW 55

    I doubt they get k. Long, the roots r dying ever since al died. Woodso and uncle Steve wiz were shown the door. And it looks like McKenzie is totally against Al’s way, fkn punk prob wants to change their colors and names. Prob wants to name them the pelicans or flamingos like the no b ball team lol. Fugg u reggie.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
    ========

    we who?

    besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain

    =============================================

    Why do I get the feeling this is leading to a reparations debate?

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    DEATHROW 55 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    I doubt they get k. Long, the roots r dying ever since al died. Woodso and uncle Steve wiz were shown the door. And it looks like McKenzie is totally against Al’s way, fkn punk prob wants to change their colors and names. Prob wants to name them the pelicans or flamingos like the no b ball team lol. Fugg u reggie.

    ===========================================

    If that’s the way you feel, then go root for another team. Goodbye.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.

    ============================================

    We have another needs. What use is a good corner when the other team can run the ball all day and their quarterback can sit in the pocket for years looking for an open receiver?

    Shore up the front seven FIRST, then we can worry about the secondary.

  • Dakota

    240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.

    _______________

    With a roster that needs everything you don’t believe in best player available?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    Nobody respects DA not even hus own asst coaches…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Twenty year-old Mary Turner, 8 months pregnant at the time and whose husband had been killed in this “lynching rampage” on Sunday, May 19th, made the mistake of publicly objecting to her husband’s murder. She also had the audacity to threaten to swear out warrants for those responsible. Those “unwise remarks,” as the area papers put it, enraged locals. Consequently, Mary Turner fled for her life only to be caught and taken to a place called Folsom’s Bridge on the Brooks and Lowndes Counties’ shared border. To punish her, at Folsom’s Bridge the mob tied Mary Turner by her ankles, hung her upside down from a tree, poured gasoline on her and burned off her clothes. One member of the mob then cut her stomach open and her unborn child dropped to the ground where it was reportedly stomped on and crushed. Her body was then riddled with gunfire from the mob. Later that night she and her baby were buried ten feet away from where they were murdered. The makeshift grave was marked with only a “whiskey bottle” with a “cigar” stuffed in its neck.

    Some may ask, why bring up “the past” and these atrocities now? “It happened so long ago.” We think we should bring them up and face them for many reasons. We should bring them up to acknowledge the lives lost, along with the reality that no justice has ever occurred for the victims, families and many others affected by these events. We should bring them up because few in the region speak publicly about these events yet wonder why race relations in the area are often so strained. We should bring them up because to date these events remain one of the most gruesome cases of racism and racial terrorism in this nation’s history, yet they are omitted from the history we teach our children. We should bring them up because Mary Turner’s murder remains one of the most horrific crimes committed against a human being in this nation’s history. We should bring them up because so far not one historical marker or grave stone is in place to acknowledge these events and the lives lost during that week of terror in May of 1918. And last but not least, we should bring these events up so we can face our collective past in order to see how it might affect our collective present and future. Please help us do that.

    http://www.maryturner.org/

  • manassamauler

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Slavery ended 150 years ago (give or take).

    Can we please all move the [bleep] on?
    ========

    we who?

    besides even though slavery ended the repercussions and ill affects still remain

    >> @missesdick. you should open a book. Arab muslims were the first to have black african slaves in the 10th century. the arabs showed the europeans how to do it. Mohammed the prophet had black african slaves. would you call arabs owning BLACK african slaves racism? you don’t history kid. and i don’t have to copy and paste crap like you do. I’m a self educated man and you are not on my level. run along

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Raiders have the worse secondary in the nfl. They need a young corner with 1st round type talent to groom.

    Cant neglect that anymore. U have huff playing corner

  • big chill

    if you watch seattle they have gone away from the zbs a lot, they don’t use it as much.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    wilson from giants runs 4.28…started to use him…but Reggie and DA let jones rot…

  • rediaR

    Hwnrdr Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Hwnrdr Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    As for Te’o: remember that McClain was also considered an elite MLB prospect as well. Pass.

    Yes but McClain was not Heisman runner up!

    ——-

    Youre not serious are you?

    Teo was only a runner up because all of the top preseason candidates fell on their faces. Look who McClain was up against his year.

    Riff…no I am not serious…but was McClain up for the Heisman? Someone mentioned drafting Johnny Manziel in 2 years…lol
    ———————
    Maybe not Manziel, but those couple draft classes look like they may be stacked at QB if all of these young guys continue to develop in college.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Dakota Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Would be a big mistake to take a CB in the first 3 rounds, ESPECIALLY after a trade down.

    _______________

    With a roster that needs everything you don’t believe in best player available?
    ===========================================

    Very good corners are certainly at a premium in this league and you can’t just have one, you need at least two or three, so I would think corner would certainly be on the table, considering we have none.

    But with sooooo many problems BPA is definitely a good approach.