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By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 13th, 2012 at 10:46 am in Oakland Raiders.

The chain of events that led to Rolando McClain’s dispute with coach Dennis Allen included the linebacker being informed of his demotion to being a back up linebacker and special teams player.

McClain was back on the field Wednesday for the first time since Nov. 28, the day he was told to leave practice by Allen and later given a two-game suspension without pay for conduct detrimental to the team.

“Rolando and I met this morning,’’ Allen said following practice. “I laid out exactly what expectations are for him moving forward. Really, that’s about it . . . Rolando’s part of this team and we’re going to move on.’’

Asked how much McClain would play, Allen said, “Where we were at before the suspension is that he was going to fill a backup role and work on special teams. That’s where we’re at and we’ll see where we are on game day.’’

Omar Gaither continued to get the work at middle linebacker in the 4-3 defense. McClain had been taken off the nickel defense in favor of Miles Burris after four games.

McClain was not available for comment, and Allen declined to get into specifics about the suspension or events leading up to it.

Asked why the Raiders simply didn’t cut McClain, as they have Pat Lee and Ron Bartell when they lost their starting jobs, Allen said, “Just different circumstances.’’

As for disparaging comments made on his McClain’s Facebook page about the organization (which were later taken down), Allen said. “Things get said in the heat of the moment and we’ve got to move on.’’

Gaither said it was business as usual for McClain on the field.

“Same old, same old,’’ Gaither said. “He wasn’t disruptive or anything. It was all good.’’

In a recent interview with The Game (95.7-FM), Bartell said of McClain, “Believe it or not he’s a really good guy . . . He just needs to grow up, to be quite frank.’’

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour was limited in practice Wednesday and Allen said,“I think there’s a good chance he’s going to play this week.’’

Seymour missed five games with a hamstring strain.

– Rookie Tony Bergstrom has been working at both guard spots as well as his role as an extra tight end. If Bergstrom sees action over the last three games, it would be at the expense of either left guard Cooper Carlisle or right guard Mike Briesel.

– U.S. Marines will at Raiderville, the West Side Plaza, near the BART entrance, and at Gates A, B, C and D before kickoff to accept donations for the Toys for Tots program.

In addition to new, unwrapped toys, monetary donations will be accepted.

Running backs Darren McFadden and Marcel Reece, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Miles Burris will sign autographs in exchange for new, unwrapped toy donations valued at $20 or more at the Raider Image at Hayward’s Southland Mall on Monday, Dec. 17, from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.

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  • DMAC

    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    AL West just got more crazy. Angels reportedly signing Josh Hamilton to 5 years, $125 million. Per ESPN-Dallas.
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    Go A’s!

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    LOL, Canelo! yeah! I keep hearing Canelo-Mayweather fight in 2013… Vegas baby!

  • jesusraiderjim

    #49 Okay Thanks gonna checki it now

  • inonewordraider

    Never thought of it that way. It would be awesome to see Floyd get in exchanges, but he is too good an in-pocket boxer to get hit.

    RJ Jr. was crazy fast, perhaps the fastest all time at his peak, nobody could touch him, yet he fought outside the pocket and countered like a cobra, not many exchanges either, but hella entertaining fights
    ________
    i want to call may the best in the last 10 years but i can’t because he didn’t fight pac and pac fighting him or marquez fighting him is equivalent to may fighting sergio martinez. he’s smart enough however to not do that whereas the little guys have to come up cuz they destroy everyone in the lighter weights so they seek the money. Chavez and Duran best light weights i’ve ever seen but Pacquiao would have given them all they wanted at that weight. I think sugar ray leonard and robinson would have beaten mayweather

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    MAYBE #92 HAS A FUTURE IN BOXING..ASK THE STEELER QB.

  • The_Judge37

    50.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!
    —-

    Pelirrojo sin Alma

  • inonewordraider

    DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!
    ___________
    yup supposed to fight robert guerrero cindo de mayo (who isn’t very good) then canelo on mexican independence day in september BOTH landing on saturdays. May is better than Canelo by a mile, but i think father time will finally catch up to may in september if Canelo’s able to knock out Cotto first

  • http://alswingman.blogspot.com alswingman

    I didn’t even realize Omar Gaither had replaced Burris at MLB. This is a CFL team, no, maybe UFL. Change the colors to lime green.

  • Dakota

    25.DutchRaider77 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    22.bcz24 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:09 am
    5.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am
    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news
    ********************
    Comical. Except Al doesn’t have a daughter.

    _____________________________________________________

    Oh no, poor Mark….

    _________

    LMW(hite)AO!

  • The_Judge37

    54. What about Bernard Hopkins?

  • hwnrdr

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    28.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    Wassup Dutch

    ______________________________________________________

    Really cool meeting a lot of you guys. Thanks again hwnrdr for the invite. Loved the operation!

    Was good meeting you Dutch! Glad you had a good time!

  • Dakota

    51.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    AL West just got more crazy. Angels reportedly signing Josh Hamilton to 5 years, $125 million. Per ESPN-Dallas.
    =======

    Go A’s!
    _______________

    LA area is the best place for a recovering addict.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Floyd would have had trouble with Chavez cause his Philadelphia defense is good for aggressive fighters that shoot for the head, Chavez would have laid the lumber on the midsection like he did on Meldric…

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news
    =======================================

    You’ve got to be kidding. Substitute OJ for Al and wife for daughter and I think you got this right.

  • DMAC

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    50.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!
    —-

    Pelirrojo sin Alma
    ========

    El Mexican Chucky?

  • lefty12

    Angels sign Hamilton but they lost T.Hunter.Hunter is a much better clutch hitter and a better outfielder.

  • DMAC

    Drew?
    Should he stay or should he go?

  • inonewordraider

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    54. What about Bernard Hopkins?
    ___________________
    all time great. he’s won a crazy # of belts with a crazy # of defenses but if we go bernard i think of the guy who i think is probably the 2nd best fighter i’ve ever seen in Roy Jones Jr. He just beat everybody so easily , forget if they weren’t big names at middleweight he was amazing

  • DJ Johnny

    738.R8drinOK Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    732.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:49 am
    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What the H*ll? Mystic your black vs white racial BS has no bounds man. Go back to talking about the greatness of Pryor over Palmer. By the way I’m pulling for Pryor but you better be ready to reap the whirlwind if he stinks it up Sunday because right now everyone but you knows Carson is a better QB.

    If Al’s daughter looked ANYTHING like his son than Marcus definitely had poor taste in women.

    Somebody needs to find a pic of her somewhere so we can debunk this story.

  • RaidingTexas

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAYBE #92 HAS A FUTURE IN BOXING..ASK THE STEELER QB.

    ——————————————

    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/authors/author-logo/142085/l

  • morilla

    Marcus Smarkus, Bo was the best RB to see wear the silver and black. Damn you Kevin Walker.

    Allen’s off field behaviors are well documented. So shady to see him sit there acting all innocent. You know what you did dude, so did Al.

  • inonewordraider

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Floyd would have had trouble with Chavez cause his Philadelphia defense is good for aggressive fighters that shoot for the head, Chavez would have laid the lumber on the midsection like he did on Meldric…
    __________
    when i should be working i go on this site and watch old boxing matches on youtube, just saw the chavez fight meldric fight again. man, what would meldrics career have been had he never faced chavez? meldric dominated that fight but was never the same afterward

  • inonewordraider

    If Al’s daughter looked ANYTHING like his son than Marcus definitely had poor taste in women.

    Somebody needs to find a pic of her somewhere so we can debunk this story.
    _____________
    hahahahaahhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NMe5uGYOzD4/Tq4EbeHXUZI/AAAAAAAAA0c/goIBh7sLNBs/s400/dutch-boy-icon.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.winiferdintheburbs.com/2011/11/how-to-celebrate-your-one-year.html&h=211&w=278&sz=6&tbnid=pBJGgdwXPJcDEM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=119&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlittle%2Bdutch%2Bboy%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=little+dutch+boy&usg=__aSqNbjD6CPmm-Rin1aBLYUw-aVE=&docid=sivJ4wWAXnchPM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xDDKUOu1FMmziwKTv4GgCg&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAg&dur=3613

    kinda cute to me!

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    I hear you on Meldric, damn shame that the kid got hurt like that…incredible fight.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Somebody has hijacked my handle again….yawn

  • The Big Banana

    In a recent interview with The Game (95.7-FM), Bartell said of McClain, “Believe it or not he’s a really good guy . . . He just needs to grow up, to be quite frank.’’

    —-

    Lol, but we knew this already.

  • DMAC

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Somebody has hijacked my handle again….yawn
    =======

    CP3 is back at it again?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    manny would be killed by mayweather.
    manny has never had the skill to deal with a slick foot work speedy counter puncher and mayweather is still the best in the biz in this reagrd.

    arm screwed up and they should have made that fight before the bradly flap.

    Now with this devastating knock out loss, brace yourself for manny marquez 5 unless marquez can make n more money fighting anothe opponent that favors his style

  • bcz24

    58.alswingman Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    I didn’t even realize Omar Gaither had replaced Burris at MLB. This is a CFL team, no, maybe UFL. Change the colors to lime green.
    ****************
    Burris never played MLB. Gaither replaced McClain.

  • hwnrdr

    How many 3 and outs will it be Sunday before we get a first down?

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Hmm…CP is still far better than over half the QB’s in the league.
    ==========================================
    Many would say that’s untrue or at the very least debatable…

    But for argument’s sake, let’s assume that to be true.

    That still doesn’t address the issue of whether CP is worth 13M per season to this Raider franchise at this time.

    More importantly, it doesn’t answer the question of whether it’s feasible or desireable to base a long term strategy around Palmer.

    I don’t believe it is.

    IMO, our first order of business has to be to completely re-work the defense – just to get competitive again.

    But there’s still the elephant in the room issue of securing a franchise QB for the long term.

    I doubt CP can be that guy.

    I think it’s very unfortunate that there doesn’t appear to be a Luck or RGIII in this draft.

    I’d still go in that direction if there was, even with all the holes we have to fill on defense.

    My suspicion is that we’ll be at or near the top of the draft again in 2014, and hopefully we’ll finally be able to nab a sustainable franchise QB at that time.

    That’s about the only reasonable 2 or 3 year plan to contention that I can envision.

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    Hi Jerry. Anything new on the Raiders .Its Boring.
    Who might be coming to Oakland?
    Who will leave Oakland next ? Rumors?
    Oh well, Reggie is getting ready for the Draft!

  • DJ Johnny

    If Pryor were as good as Mistic says he is than I would say definitely move out Palmer…

    I’d love to believe Pryor was.

    I think TP should start the last 3 games regardless.

    It would at least give us a reason to be interested in the games.

  • omoran

    Raider(since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    WHAT IS MEL KIPER OR KIPPER PICS FOR OAKLAND?
    Mantai Teo? To close the run! Shut the run?

  • dr_robert

    I wonder if the Palmer haters have a clue how much they’d be laughed at by any nfl insider. Some of the stuff on here would be seen as so stupid it’s insane.

    Does missdick ever tire of saying the same thing every day?

    Of course, he claims the most racially forward thinking owner in nfl history was racist.

    He should be slapped silly.

  • DJ Johnny

    Here’s how Raiders win the AFC West and get up to the top 5 on the weekly AP Power Poll next season:

    -Pryor turns out to be EVERYTHING Priest and Mistic say he is…and MORE.

    -They fire Knapp and put in a scheme that works for DMAC and the offense as a whole.

    -Streator comes into his own and DHB catches everything thrown to him.

    -Brandon Myers gets even better..or heck stays the same.

    -We tweek the oline a bit.

    -The defense improves to “average” via a couple of nice draft picks and free agent acquisitions.

    -Lechler is let go to free up money for more FA pick ups.

    -Ford returns to help with…returns and is an additional weapon on offense for the all world Pryor.

    There ya go ……13-3.

  • severeraiderz

    Inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    i always thought mayweather would have beaten pacman because he’s a faster stronger marquez but i have much more respect for pacman because he fought everybody, even giving his toughest opponent marquez four fights (by the way marquez won the 1st and 4th, 2nd I lean Marquez third I lean Pacquiao but 2nd and 3rd could have been draws).

    When you compare common opponents Mayweather i believe lost to De La Hoya who was the champ at the time and the aggressor while Pac pummelled him. Cotto gave Mayweather all he could handle while Pac similarly pumelled him. Mayweather on the other hand toyed with Marquez while Pac had his hands full

    When you marvel Mayweathers controversially unblemished record however, remember that Roberto Duran was 70 and 1, while Julio Caesar Chavez went 89 -0 and these guys fought the best guys out there and went up in weight several times
    ///////////////////////////

    Mayweather clearly beat De La Hoya idk why it was even a split decision win. Mayweather fought a different style of fight against Cotto. Look at the 12th round when the victory was clearly in hand, Mayweather took the fight to the center of the ring and dominated. Mayweather would have destroyed Pacquiao in their primes, Mayweather is the best counter puncher and defensive fighter in the game, Pac would have been eating check right hands all night. JCC clearly lost to Whittaker and Duran was destroyed by Hearns so i don’t understand your points

  • MiamiRaider78

    That easy, aye Johnny! lol

    One can only wish, that way April-Feb becomes more enjoyable.

  • severeraiderz

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Floyd would have had trouble with Chavez cause his Philadelphia defense is good for aggressive fighters that shoot for the head, Chavez would have laid the lumber on the midsection like he did on Meldric…

    ////////////////

    JCC lost to Sweet Pea imo, whom Mayweather is a better version of

  • DJ Johnny

    I’m impressed with Phillip Adams.

    He seems to possess a key quality absent from our CB’s for years…he has an eye for the ball and looks to make a play.

    In the past, our corners would not make that int. against Manning cuz they would still be staring at the WR instead.

    Did he make the int against Cleveland too?

    Who was the guy that made the int against KC? I know Adams made one of those.

    At any rate might we be looking at Shawntae Spencer and Adams as our starting corners in 2013?

  • DJ Johnny

    88.MiamiRaider78 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    That easy, aye Johnny! lol

    One can only wish, that way April-Feb becomes more enjoyable.

    Who knows right?

    We are due for something unexpectedly GOOD to come to us as far as a player no one expected to be any good turning out to be a probowler, instead of it always being guys who were expected to be good turning out to be total busts.

    Karma owes us a visit.

  • DJ Johnny

    Are u guys seeing the highlights of the Denver game played back over and over on your pc’s as well?

    I keep seeing them replay the Adams int. and i’ve seen that same play many times…except everytime i’ve seen it with us before…our CB is looking at the receiver and NOT THE BALL.

    Woodson tried to instill that into the DB’s and they never got it.

    Adams has done it now at least twice….resulting in him picking it off.

    Adams also makes a nice play on Decker in the endzone forcing a fg try.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    DJ Johnny Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    If Pryor were as good as Mistic says he is than I would say definitely move out Palmer…

    I’d love to believe Pryor was.

    I think TP should start the last 3 games regardless.

    It would at least give us a reason to be interested in the games.

    =============================================
    I’ve been advocating TP getting some run the entire season.

    I couldn’t believe that Matt Lice was number 2 and that TP wasn’t even ACTIVE.

    Absolute proof that this staff is clueless, visionless and incompetent.

    I’m not a Palmer basher, but I’m also not a big fan.

    Frankly, I think he’s competent but extremely overrated.

    Better than Jason Cantball, but that’s not saying much.

    I also don’t believe TP is an effective enough passer to be a very good NFL QB, but I’m not certain about that. I certainly would not rule it out.

    I believe a competent staff would have had some packages installed for TP and would have attempted to ‘ease him in’. Give him a taste.

    Look, even if he flamed out entirely, you’ve lost nothing.

    I’ll take it a step further.

    TP has the athletic prowess to play in some capacity in this league. There is little doubt in my mind about that.

    Sure, he wants to be a QB. He’s convinced he can do it.

    A really good and visionary HC would be able to convince him that maybe that’s not his ultimate position (if he flamed out) or that in the meantime he can help the team in some other capacity.

    TP doesn’t seem to be an idiot. He’ll do what’s necessary to help the team and bolster his career. At least I’d like to believe that.

    If Al was still around, I KNOW he’d find a way to get TP on the field, even if it wasn’t at QB.

    This staff ? He’s lucky to finally be activated and we still haven’t had a glimpse as to what the future might hold.

    I’m wondering whether Tits and Krapp finally decided to take a look at TP or if the order came from Reggie or Mark.

    All I know for sure is that it’s about freaking time.

  • tonedeezy

    Mayweather was so afraid of Manny that he went to jail to duck him.
    Enough said.

  • Coach456

    DJ Johnny,

    The Raiders will not go 13-3 next season with any of the quarterbacks on the roster and by firing any of the assistant coaches. They will be lucky to win 4 or 5 games with the 2013 schedule. They play at Houston, Indianapolis, Dallas, New York Giants,face Peyton Manning twice, and not to mention who plays in Oakland – They will be lucky to win 4 games.

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