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By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 13th, 2012 at 10:46 am in Oakland Raiders.

The chain of events that led to Rolando McClain’s dispute with coach Dennis Allen included the linebacker being informed of his demotion to being a back up linebacker and special teams player.

McClain was back on the field Wednesday for the first time since Nov. 28, the day he was told to leave practice by Allen and later given a two-game suspension without pay for conduct detrimental to the team.

“Rolando and I met this morning,’’ Allen said following practice. “I laid out exactly what expectations are for him moving forward. Really, that’s about it . . . Rolando’s part of this team and we’re going to move on.’’

Asked how much McClain would play, Allen said, “Where we were at before the suspension is that he was going to fill a backup role and work on special teams. That’s where we’re at and we’ll see where we are on game day.’’

Omar Gaither continued to get the work at middle linebacker in the 4-3 defense. McClain had been taken off the nickel defense in favor of Miles Burris after four games.

McClain was not available for comment, and Allen declined to get into specifics about the suspension or events leading up to it.

Asked why the Raiders simply didn’t cut McClain, as they have Pat Lee and Ron Bartell when they lost their starting jobs, Allen said, “Just different circumstances.’’

As for disparaging comments made on his McClain’s Facebook page about the organization (which were later taken down), Allen said. “Things get said in the heat of the moment and we’ve got to move on.’’

Gaither said it was business as usual for McClain on the field.

“Same old, same old,’’ Gaither said. “He wasn’t disruptive or anything. It was all good.’’

In a recent interview with The Game (95.7-FM), Bartell said of McClain, “Believe it or not he’s a really good guy . . . He just needs to grow up, to be quite frank.’’

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour was limited in practice Wednesday and Allen said,“I think there’s a good chance he’s going to play this week.’’

Seymour missed five games with a hamstring strain.

– Rookie Tony Bergstrom has been working at both guard spots as well as his role as an extra tight end. If Bergstrom sees action over the last three games, it would be at the expense of either left guard Cooper Carlisle or right guard Mike Briesel.

– U.S. Marines will at Raiderville, the West Side Plaza, near the BART entrance, and at Gates A, B, C and D before kickoff to accept donations for the Toys for Tots program.

In addition to new, unwrapped toys, monetary donations will be accepted.

Running backs Darren McFadden and Marcel Reece, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Miles Burris will sign autographs in exchange for new, unwrapped toy donations valued at $20 or more at the Raider Image at Hayward’s Southland Mall on Monday, Dec. 17, from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.

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97 Responses to “Raiders notes, quotes, etc . . .”

  1. R8ER MIKE Says:

    FIRST ??

  2. The_Judge37 Says:

    La Primera Lives!

  3. The_Judge37 Says:

    1.R8ER MIKE Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:48 am
    FIRST ??
    —-

    That’s what i get for reading the story first.

  4. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    yo

  5. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news

  6. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Cam newton vs terrelle pryor

    Cam and pryor were both unbelievable athletes in college, easily able to outrun and over power defenders, and were the best players on the field every saturday.

    Cam was a far more polished passer in college, and this is where I would often give cam the edge when people used to compare them.

    Even though many thought cam would never make it, i saw a kid with a beautiful nfl ready arm, that only needed to refine his mechanics.

    Pryor on the other hand struck me as a kid that did not make enough progress as a passer in college. We now know that partly tressel’s offense was ony designed to let pryor beat teams with his world class athleticism, and not much time was put into polishing pryor for the pro game. We also know that pryor was immature and may not have put in all of the effort he could have to maximize his talent and time as a buckeye.

    pryor left school and joined the nfl almost through the back door, and was immediately smacked with a dubious suspension. he was humbled and went to work.

    Watching him in the pre season, he worked out that throwing motin and was much better with his feet in the pocket. What really jumped out though is that almost every single pass he made was thrown into SINGLE COVERAGE. he was able to make the right reads and identify where to go with the football, and that is huge.

    pryor doesnt need to be the flashy passer that newton or griffin is. pryor can adapt a game managment style of low risk football, because of his electric play making ability.

    I would be happy to pryor keep the turn overs to a minimum even if it meant taking a few less risk, and complete in the neighbor hood of 55% of his pass attempts. this would be very good for a qb seeing his first nfl game action.

    i now believe that although he isnt the passer that newton is he is good enough, and will get better with time. we already know they favor running the ball, with pryor having a bit more speed, and newton with a bit more size.

    Im certain davis and big mack will pay very very very close attention to newton when he is on the field in a couple of weeks. i hope pryor can do enough in this upcoming game to get more snaps ( the really should start him) vs the panthers.

    pryor is a special talent like newton or rgIII, the kind of qb that can score a td on any snap from any point on the field, with his arm or his legs.

    Get the kid on the field already….geeez

  7. R8ER MIKE Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:50 am
    1.R8ER MIKE Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:48 am
    FIRST ??
    —-

    That’s what i get for reading the story first.

    *******************
    lol lol lol.. that will learn ya Judge !! lol lol

  8. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    here is the diamond formation, and why it works when you have a qb that runs like a cheetah.

    Pryor in this formation with reece dmac and jones/stewart would be more than handful

    take a look

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1442104-breaking-down-colin-kaepernicks-50-yard-touchdown-run

  9. J Hill Says:

    Wassup DMAC!

  10. hwnrdr Says:

    Mistic, who is Al’s daughter?

  11. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    hmmm pac mans “team” beat down a photographer while manny lay face down on the canvass after getting knocked cold?

    i wonder if he will be vilified lie zab judah, or dennis rodman, or ron artest?

    I doubt it

  12. R8ER MIKE Says:

    – U.S. Marines will at Raiderville, the West Side Plaza, near the BART entrance, and at Gates A, B, C and D before kickoff to accept donations for the Toys for Tots program.

    *********************************
    truck load of viberators= toys for tw@ts !!!

  13. hwnrdr Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    hmmm pac mans “team” beat down a photographer while manny lay face down on the canvass after getting knocked cold?

    i wonder if he will be vilified lie zab judah, or dennis rodman, or ron artest?

    I doubt it

    WOW…they got mad huh? You’re right…nothing will happen!

  14. Plunketthead Says:

    In this thread we guess at what TP will do when he is washed out of the NFL next year

    1. greet patrons at a Vegas casino
    2. sell used cars in buckeyeville

  15. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Mistic, who is Al’s daughter?
    ==============

    that story is unsubstantiated

  16. hwnrdr Says:

    I know…
    Heard that one too…

  17. The_Judge37 Says:

    The thoughts on if Bergstrom will play RG or LG reminds me of this coaching staffs first sign of incompetence when they had Alex Parsons in “Competition” with Wiz for the Center spot.

  18. inonewordraider Says:

    you can’t be fu#kin the bosses wife if he aint cool with it especially when you’re married yourself and banging other married woman. Although you’d love to think so it isn’t always about race, i’m sure howie would’ve been benched for the same schit

  19. Plunketthead Says:

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/bowl/register/joingroup

    group id #14891
    password = aldavis

    Only two more days. better sign up now

  20. Plunketthead Says:

    3. open a tattoo parlor

  21. hwnrdr Says:

    Like I said, it was Run Run covered with chocolate pudding…ok, that was sick….sorry!

  22. bcz24 Says:

    5.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am
    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news
    ********************
    Comical. Except Al doesn’t have a daughter.

  23. DKnight007 Says:

    737.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    13 million for Palmer sounds crazy. It’s out of line.

    If I’m RM, I ask him to take a significant cut. I’m talking about a 40% pay cut.

    Palmer won’t be happy. Probably won’t agree to that large of a cut.

    Anyone know what kind of guaranteed money we owe CP ?

    Either way, if CP doesn’t want to accept a more reasonable salary – that leaves two options.

    Cut him or trade him.

    Trade would be preferable of course, but honestly we’re not going to be able to get much in return unless he agrees to take less dough elsewhere.

    QBs are at a premium in the NFL, and you never want to dump a good one.

    But the Raids have to accept the reality that they’re a 4 win team with CP.

    That same type of unacceptable result can be obtained for far less money.

    The question that needs to be asked is, if you keep CP and his bloated salary around – can he get the Raids to 10 wins ? Is he a guy that will still be capable of playing at a high level, in say, 2014, with a presumably better supporting cast ?

    My personal opinion is that it’s really not feasible to have a long term strategy built around CP.

    Problem is I don’t see a viable alternative at this time.

    Having said that, I would not be opposed to rolling the dice and bringing in guys who will probably turn out to be ’stop-gaps’ until a franchise QB is finally, mercifully obtained.

    We’ve got to rebuild the defense and can Krapp to get competitive. That’s with or without Palmer.

    We’re still gonna need a franchise QB to win Lombardis.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hmm…CP is still far better than over half the QB’s in the league.

    If this team had a legit running game and a decent defense, CP would look that much better because it would equal more wins.

    This is why I get so agitated with Hue being prematurely let go.

    Hue made this team an effective running team and the passing game was unpredictable and explosive.

    All that was needed was an improved defense.

    But rookie owner Davis and rookie GM decided to tear it all down and try and completely rebuild when it didn’t need to be done.

    Then hiring a young rookie head coach to replace a guy who was a better rookie head coach and then the new rookie head coach hiring a bad retread like Knapp to change offensive systems when it didn’t need to be changed and all of those bad moves, got this franchise and team in the terrible position it is today.

    Lousy!

  24. inonewordraider Says:

    i always thought mayweather would have beaten pacman because he’s a faster stronger marquez but i have much more respect for pacman because he fought everybody, even giving his toughest opponent marquez four fights (by the way marquez won the 1st and 4th, 2nd I lean Marquez third I lean Pacquiao but 2nd and 3rd could have been draws).

    When you compare common opponents Mayweather i believe lost to De La Hoya who was the champ at the time and the aggressor while Pac pummelled him. Cotto gave Mayweather all he could handle while Pac similarly pumelled him. Mayweather on the other hand toyed with Marquez while Pac had his hands full

    When you marvel Mayweathers controversially unblemished record however, remember that Roberto Duran was 70 and 1, while Julio Caesar Chavez went 89 -0 and these guys fought the best guys out there and went up in weight several times

  25. DutchRaider77 Says:

    22.bcz24 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:09 am
    5.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am
    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news
    ********************
    Comical. Except Al doesn’t have a daughter.

    _____________________________________________________

    Oh no, poor Mark….

  26. inonewordraider Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    you can’t be fu#kin the bosses wife if he aint cool with it especially when you’re married yourself and banging other married woman. Although you’d love to think so it isn’t always about race, i’m sure howie would’ve been benched for the same schit
    ________
    it was his grandaughter, others say he was banging teammates wives, others say it was because of o.j’s wife either way i say al had principles realizing there are things more important than football and i resent mistics belief that it’s a racial thing

  27. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Mistic, who is Al’s daughter?
    ========

    Madonna?

  28. DMAC Says:

    Wassup Dutch

  29. inonewordraider Says:

    so if marcus did bang his grandaughter, mark still allowed him to light the torch had to be his daughter right?

  30. DMAC Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    i always thought mayweather would have beaten pacman because he’s a faster stronger marquez but i have much more respect for pacman because he fought everybody, even giving his toughest opponent marquez four fights (by the way marquez won the 1st and 4th, 2nd I lean Marquez third I lean Pacquiao but 2nd and 3rd could have been draws).

    When you compare common opponents Mayweather i believe lost to De La Hoya who was the champ at the time and the aggressor while Pac pummelled him. Cotto gave Mayweather all he could handle while Pac similarly pumelled him. Mayweather on the other hand toyed with Marquez while Pac had his hands full

    When you marvel Mayweathers controversially unblemished record however, remember that Roberto Duran was 70 and 1, while Julio Caesar Chavez went 89 -0 and these guys fought the best guys out there and went up in weight several times
    ==========

    Pacman would of destroyed $$$, in his prime. Thats why $$$ never wanted to fight him back then.
    Of course $$ would fight him now that he’s lost a step.

  31. The_Judge37 Says:

    Al probably blames Marcus for addicting his son to Coke

  32. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I would like to see Cam vs Pryor. I think it would be a nice treat for us Raider fans.

    Cam=Legacy Game
    Pryor=Kind of a legacy game

  33. inonewordraider Says:

    Pacman would of destroyed $$$, in his prime. Thats why $$$ never wanted to fight him back then.
    Of course $$ would fight him now that he’s lost a step.
    _____________
    would have been a great matchup, classic brawler vs boxer cuz although pac can box he likes to mix it up. I def think mayweather avoided him, none of the oldschool greats avoided anybody, shoot Mayweathers uncle took on Chavez twice and got murdered but that’s what fighters do

  34. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Floyd Mayweather, best defense in Boxing history, makes for boring fights….

    Manny Pacquiao, crazy jumping around offense, shots comming from everywhere, finally got caught reaching, makes for awesome fights…

    Gimme more Pacquiao style fighters if you want boxing to come back…

  35. DutchRaider77 Says:

    28.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    Wassup Dutch

    ______________________________________________________

    Really cool meeting a lot of you guys. Thanks again hwnrdr for the invite. Loved the operation!

  36. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Mayweather would have beaten Manny cause he is i) a bigger fighter, and ii) would have countered the hell outta Manny.

  37. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @bcz24

    Saw your praise of Houston…do you think he should stay at DE or move to DT?

  38. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    FUNNY SH$T..LIKE THE OLD B S ABOUT MARC WILSON BEING MARRIED TO AL’S NON EXISTANT DOUGHTER..

  39. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Damnn, we need another Mike Tyson, boxing has become boring plus you get a feeling the cards are always fixed. Give me those 65 second fights where the champ knocks the contender into next week. Leave nothing to the judges…

  40. R8drinOK Says:

    26.inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am
    inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    you can’t be fu#kin the bosses wife if he aint cool with it especially when you’re married yourself and banging other married woman. Although you’d love to think so it isn’t always about race, i’m sure howie would’ve been benched for the same schit
    ________
    it was his grandaughter, others say he was banging teammates wives, others say it was because of o.j’s wife either way i say al had principles realizing there are things more important than football and i resent mistics belief that it’s a racial thing

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I think Marcus’s ego rubbed Al the wrong way. When the Raiders won their last SB in LA.. Marcus became the face of the Raiders…similar to what happened with Gruden. Al will never tolerate this. The could be only one face of the Raiders and that was Al. BTW did anyone else want to punch Farty Sh!ttenheimer in the face each time they interviewed him? Can’t stand that guy! “There’s a gleam men, get the gleam…there’s a gleam”…what a freaking dumba$$.

  41. inonewordraider Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    Floyd Mayweather, best defense in Boxing history, makes for boring fights….

    Manny Pacquiao, crazy jumping around offense, shots comming from everywhere, finally got caught reaching, makes for awesome fights…

    Gimme more Pacquiao style fighters if you want boxing o come back…
    ____________
    great defense but looks better than it is beccause he doesn’t exchange. Roy jones Jr just as fast couldn’t hit the guy till later in his career even the alltime great Hopkins was frustrated. Ricard “el finito” Lopez hardly got hit but yet in 50 wins (0 losses by the way) had 38 knockouts.

  42. bcz24 Says:

    37.DutchRaider77 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
    @bcz24

    Saw your praise of Houston…do you think he should stay at DE or move to DT?
    *****************
    I am not opposed to either for him really. I do think he has settled into his roll as a DE though, he was a bit small for a DT to begin with. Sure he will never be a Jared Allen pass rushing superstar, but he does create pressure, and he is rarely caught freelancing or out of position. This guy also has more down field tackles than most of our LB’s. Constant hustle. Have to love that.

  43. The_Judge37 Says:

    I still love Amatuer Boxing. No defense, no ducking & dodging, just punch eachother in the head till someone is concused.

  44. inonewordraider Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:21 am
    Mayweather would have beaten Manny cause he is i) a bigger fighter, and ii) would have countered the hell outta Manny.
    __________
    i agree he has the perfect style to beat manny, but manny would keep coming and hurt may unlike anyone else has done. you saw when may fought de la hoya he definitely was trying to avoid the power problem is de la hoya didn’t know how to fight coming in, he was a natural exchange boxer and counterpuncher. Pacquiao knows how to come in. woulda been great

  45. RaidingTexas Says:

    AL West just got more crazy. Angels reportedly signing Josh Hamilton to 5 years, $125 million. Per ESPN-Dallas.

  46. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Plunk

    After I submit picks does submit keep showing? It is on me. I picked all the games and the tie-breaker

  47. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:

    great defense but looks better than it is beccause he doesn’t exchange….
    ++++++++++
    Never thought of it that way. It would be awesome to see Floyd get in exchanges, but he is too good an in-pocket boxer to get hit.

    RJ Jr. was crazy fast, perhaps the fastest all time at his peak, nobody could touch him, yet he fought outside the pocket and countered like a cobra, not many exchanges either, but hella entertaining fights.

  48. The_Judge37 Says:

    De La Hoya also didn’t have anything left in the tank for Mayweather. He just put his name out there for the $$$

  49. RaidingTexas Says:

    Jesusraiderjim Says:

    After I submit picks does submit keep showing? It is on me. I picked all the games and the tie-breaker

    ——————————————-

    Yeah, it stays on that same page. The way I knew my picks took was by closing the browser, then going back in. All my picks were still in there.

  50. DMAC Says:

    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!

  51. DMAC Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    AL West just got more crazy. Angels reportedly signing Josh Hamilton to 5 years, $125 million. Per ESPN-Dallas.
    =======

    Go A’s!

  52. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    LOL, Canelo! yeah! I keep hearing Canelo-Mayweather fight in 2013… Vegas baby!

  53. jesusraiderjim Says:

    #49 Okay Thanks gonna checki it now

  54. inonewordraider Says:

    Never thought of it that way. It would be awesome to see Floyd get in exchanges, but he is too good an in-pocket boxer to get hit.

    RJ Jr. was crazy fast, perhaps the fastest all time at his peak, nobody could touch him, yet he fought outside the pocket and countered like a cobra, not many exchanges either, but hella entertaining fights
    ________
    i want to call may the best in the last 10 years but i can’t because he didn’t fight pac and pac fighting him or marquez fighting him is equivalent to may fighting sergio martinez. he’s smart enough however to not do that whereas the little guys have to come up cuz they destroy everyone in the lighter weights so they seek the money. Chavez and Duran best light weights i’ve ever seen but Pacquiao would have given them all they wanted at that weight. I think sugar ray leonard and robinson would have beaten mayweather

  55. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAYBE #92 HAS A FUTURE IN BOXING..ASK THE STEELER QB.

  56. The_Judge37 Says:

    50.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!
    —-

    Pelirrojo sin Alma

  57. inonewordraider Says:

    DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!
    ___________
    yup supposed to fight robert guerrero cindo de mayo (who isn’t very good) then canelo on mexican independence day in september BOTH landing on saturdays. May is better than Canelo by a mile, but i think father time will finally catch up to may in september if Canelo’s able to knock out Cotto first

  58. alswingman Says:

    I didn’t even realize Omar Gaither had replaced Burris at MLB. This is a CFL team, no, maybe UFL. Change the colors to lime green.

  59. Dakota Says:

    25.DutchRaider77 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    22.bcz24 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:09 am
    5.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am
    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news
    ********************
    Comical. Except Al doesn’t have a daughter.

    _____________________________________________________

    Oh no, poor Mark….

    _________

    LMW(hite)AO!

  60. The_Judge37 Says:

    54. What about Bernard Hopkins?

  61. hwnrdr Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    28.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    Wassup Dutch

    ______________________________________________________

    Really cool meeting a lot of you guys. Thanks again hwnrdr for the invite. Loved the operation!

    Was good meeting you Dutch! Glad you had a good time!

  62. Dakota Says:

    51.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    RaidingTexas Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    AL West just got more crazy. Angels reportedly signing Josh Hamilton to 5 years, $125 million. Per ESPN-Dallas.
    =======

    Go A’s!
    _______________

    LA area is the best place for a recovering addict.

  63. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Floyd would have had trouble with Chavez cause his Philadelphia defense is good for aggressive fighters that shoot for the head, Chavez would have laid the lumber on the midsection like he did on Meldric…

  64. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news
    =======================================

    You’ve got to be kidding. Substitute OJ for Al and wife for daughter and I think you got this right.

  65. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    50.DMAC Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Here’s my new wave of future in boxing…….

    Canelo!
    —-

    Pelirrojo sin Alma
    ========

    El Mexican Chucky?

  66. lefty12 Says:

    Angels sign Hamilton but they lost T.Hunter.Hunter is a much better clutch hitter and a better outfielder.

  67. DMAC Says:

    Drew?
    Should he stay or should he go?

  68. inonewordraider Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    54. What about Bernard Hopkins?
    ___________________
    all time great. he’s won a crazy # of belts with a crazy # of defenses but if we go bernard i think of the guy who i think is probably the 2nd best fighter i’ve ever seen in Roy Jones Jr. He just beat everybody so easily , forget if they weren’t big names at middleweight he was amazing

  69. DJ Johnny Says:

    738.R8drinOK Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    732.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 10:49 am
    marcus vs davis/

    This is simple guys.

    marcus allen was seeing davis’s daughter and he was caken’ em on a daily.

    Davis showed him that you can carry the ball and entertain me, but you cant be a part of my family and bang out my daughter.

    This is the real reason for the feud.

    davis did not want a black grandson by mistake or on purpose for that matter.

    Old news

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What the H*ll? Mystic your black vs white racial BS has no bounds man. Go back to talking about the greatness of Pryor over Palmer. By the way I’m pulling for Pryor but you better be ready to reap the whirlwind if he stinks it up Sunday because right now everyone but you knows Carson is a better QB.

    If Al’s daughter looked ANYTHING like his son than Marcus definitely had poor taste in women.

    Somebody needs to find a pic of her somewhere so we can debunk this story.

  70. RaidingTexas Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAYBE #92 HAS A FUTURE IN BOXING..ASK THE STEELER QB.

    ——————————————

    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/authors/author-logo/142085/l

  71. morilla Says:

    Marcus Smarkus, Bo was the best RB to see wear the silver and black. Damn you Kevin Walker.

    Allen’s off field behaviors are well documented. So shady to see him sit there acting all innocent. You know what you did dude, so did Al.

  72. inonewordraider Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Floyd would have had trouble with Chavez cause his Philadelphia defense is good for aggressive fighters that shoot for the head, Chavez would have laid the lumber on the midsection like he did on Meldric…
    __________
    when i should be working i go on this site and watch old boxing matches on youtube, just saw the chavez fight meldric fight again. man, what would meldrics career have been had he never faced chavez? meldric dominated that fight but was never the same afterward

  73. inonewordraider Says:

    If Al’s daughter looked ANYTHING like his son than Marcus definitely had poor taste in women.

    Somebody needs to find a pic of her somewhere so we can debunk this story.
    _____________
    hahahahaahhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NMe5uGYOzD4/Tq4EbeHXUZI/AAAAAAAAA0c/goIBh7sLNBs/s400/dutch-boy-icon.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.winiferdintheburbs.com/2011/11/how-to-celebrate-your-one-year.html&h=211&w=278&sz=6&tbnid=pBJGgdwXPJcDEM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=119&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlittle%2Bdutch%2Bboy%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=little+dutch+boy&usg=__aSqNbjD6CPmm-Rin1aBLYUw-aVE=&docid=sivJ4wWAXnchPM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xDDKUOu1FMmziwKTv4GgCg&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAg&dur=3613

    kinda cute to me!

  74. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I hear you on Meldric, damn shame that the kid got hurt like that…incredible fight.

  75. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Somebody has hijacked my handle again….yawn

  76. The Big Banana Says:

    In a recent interview with The Game (95.7-FM), Bartell said of McClain, “Believe it or not he’s a really good guy . . . He just needs to grow up, to be quite frank.’’

    —-

    Lol, but we knew this already.

  77. DMAC Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Somebody has hijacked my handle again….yawn
    =======

    CP3 is back at it again?

  78. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    manny would be killed by mayweather.
    manny has never had the skill to deal with a slick foot work speedy counter puncher and mayweather is still the best in the biz in this reagrd.

    arm screwed up and they should have made that fight before the bradly flap.

    Now with this devastating knock out loss, brace yourself for manny marquez 5 unless marquez can make n more money fighting anothe opponent that favors his style

  79. bcz24 Says:

    58.alswingman Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    I didn’t even realize Omar Gaither had replaced Burris at MLB. This is a CFL team, no, maybe UFL. Change the colors to lime green.
    ****************
    Burris never played MLB. Gaither replaced McClain.

  80. hwnrdr Says:

    How many 3 and outs will it be Sunday before we get a first down?

  81. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Hmm…CP is still far better than over half the QB’s in the league.
    ==========================================
    Many would say that’s untrue or at the very least debatable…

    But for argument’s sake, let’s assume that to be true.

    That still doesn’t address the issue of whether CP is worth 13M per season to this Raider franchise at this time.

    More importantly, it doesn’t answer the question of whether it’s feasible or desireable to base a long term strategy around Palmer.

    I don’t believe it is.

    IMO, our first order of business has to be to completely re-work the defense – just to get competitive again.

    But there’s still the elephant in the room issue of securing a franchise QB for the long term.

    I doubt CP can be that guy.

    I think it’s very unfortunate that there doesn’t appear to be a Luck or RGIII in this draft.

    I’d still go in that direction if there was, even with all the holes we have to fill on defense.

    My suspicion is that we’ll be at or near the top of the draft again in 2014, and hopefully we’ll finally be able to nab a sustainable franchise QB at that time.

    That’s about the only reasonable 2 or 3 year plan to contention that I can envision.

  82. omoran Says:

    Raider (since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    Hi Jerry. Anything new on the Raiders .Its Boring.
    Who might be coming to Oakland?
    Who will leave Oakland next ? Rumors?
    Oh well, Reggie is getting ready for the Draft!

  83. DJ Johnny Says:

    If Pryor were as good as Mistic says he is than I would say definitely move out Palmer…

    I’d love to believe Pryor was.

    I think TP should start the last 3 games regardless.

    It would at least give us a reason to be interested in the games.

  84. omoran Says:

    Raider(since 1967)
    ★★★★★★★
    WHAT IS MEL KIPER OR KIPPER PICS FOR OAKLAND?
    Mantai Teo? To close the run! Shut the run?

  85. dr_robert Says:

    I wonder if the Palmer haters have a clue how much they’d be laughed at by any nfl insider. Some of the stuff on here would be seen as so stupid it’s insane.

    Does missdick ever tire of saying the same thing every day?

    Of course, he claims the most racially forward thinking owner in nfl history was racist.

    He should be slapped silly.

  86. DJ Johnny Says:

    Here’s how Raiders win the AFC West and get up to the top 5 on the weekly AP Power Poll next season:

    -Pryor turns out to be EVERYTHING Priest and Mistic say he is…and MORE.

    -They fire Knapp and put in a scheme that works for DMAC and the offense as a whole.

    -Streator comes into his own and DHB catches everything thrown to him.

    -Brandon Myers gets even better..or heck stays the same.

    -We tweek the oline a bit.

    -The defense improves to “average” via a couple of nice draft picks and free agent acquisitions.

    -Lechler is let go to free up money for more FA pick ups.

    -Ford returns to help with…returns and is an additional weapon on offense for the all world Pryor.

    There ya go ……13-3.

  87. severeraiderz Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    i always thought mayweather would have beaten pacman because he’s a faster stronger marquez but i have much more respect for pacman because he fought everybody, even giving his toughest opponent marquez four fights (by the way marquez won the 1st and 4th, 2nd I lean Marquez third I lean Pacquiao but 2nd and 3rd could have been draws).

    When you compare common opponents Mayweather i believe lost to De La Hoya who was the champ at the time and the aggressor while Pac pummelled him. Cotto gave Mayweather all he could handle while Pac similarly pumelled him. Mayweather on the other hand toyed with Marquez while Pac had his hands full

    When you marvel Mayweathers controversially unblemished record however, remember that Roberto Duran was 70 and 1, while Julio Caesar Chavez went 89 -0 and these guys fought the best guys out there and went up in weight several times
    ///////////////////////////

    Mayweather clearly beat De La Hoya idk why it was even a split decision win. Mayweather fought a different style of fight against Cotto. Look at the 12th round when the victory was clearly in hand, Mayweather took the fight to the center of the ring and dominated. Mayweather would have destroyed Pacquiao in their primes, Mayweather is the best counter puncher and defensive fighter in the game, Pac would have been eating check right hands all night. JCC clearly lost to Whittaker and Duran was destroyed by Hearns so i don’t understand your points

  88. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    That easy, aye Johnny! lol

    One can only wish, that way April-Feb becomes more enjoyable.

  89. severeraiderz Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Floyd would have had trouble with Chavez cause his Philadelphia defense is good for aggressive fighters that shoot for the head, Chavez would have laid the lumber on the midsection like he did on Meldric…

    ////////////////

    JCC lost to Sweet Pea imo, whom Mayweather is a better version of

  90. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’m impressed with Phillip Adams.

    He seems to possess a key quality absent from our CB’s for years…he has an eye for the ball and looks to make a play.

    In the past, our corners would not make that int. against Manning cuz they would still be staring at the WR instead.

    Did he make the int against Cleveland too?

    Who was the guy that made the int against KC? I know Adams made one of those.

    At any rate might we be looking at Shawntae Spencer and Adams as our starting corners in 2013?

  91. DJ Johnny Says:

    88.MiamiRaider78 Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    That easy, aye Johnny! lol

    One can only wish, that way April-Feb becomes more enjoyable.

    Who knows right?

    We are due for something unexpectedly GOOD to come to us as far as a player no one expected to be any good turning out to be a probowler, instead of it always being guys who were expected to be good turning out to be total busts.

    Karma owes us a visit.

  92. DJ Johnny Says:

    Are u guys seeing the highlights of the Denver game played back over and over on your pc’s as well?

    I keep seeing them replay the Adams int. and i’ve seen that same play many times…except everytime i’ve seen it with us before…our CB is looking at the receiver and NOT THE BALL.

    Woodson tried to instill that into the DB’s and they never got it.

    Adams has done it now at least twice….resulting in him picking it off.

    Adams also makes a nice play on Decker in the endzone forcing a fg try.

  93. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    December 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    If Pryor were as good as Mistic says he is than I would say definitely move out Palmer…

    I’d love to believe Pryor was.

    I think TP should start the last 3 games regardless.

    It would at least give us a reason to be interested in the games.

    =============================================
    I’ve been advocating TP getting some run the entire season.

    I couldn’t believe that Matt Lice was number 2 and that TP wasn’t even ACTIVE.

    Absolute proof that this staff is clueless, visionless and incompetent.

    I’m not a Palmer basher, but I’m also not a big fan.

    Frankly, I think he’s competent but extremely overrated.

    Better than Jason Cantball, but that’s not saying much.

    I also don’t believe TP is an effective enough passer to be a very good NFL QB, but I’m not certain about that. I certainly would not rule it out.

    I believe a competent staff would have had some packages installed for TP and would have attempted to ‘ease him in’. Give him a taste.

    Look, even if he flamed out entirely, you’ve lost nothing.

    I’ll take it a step further.

    TP has the athletic prowess to play in some capacity in this league. There is little doubt in my mind about that.

    Sure, he wants to be a QB. He’s convinced he can do it.

    A really good and visionary HC would be able to convince him that maybe that’s not his ultimate position (if he flamed out) or that in the meantime he can help the team in some other capacity.

    TP doesn’t seem to be an idiot. He’ll do what’s necessary to help the team and bolster his career. At least I’d like to believe that.

    If Al was still around, I KNOW he’d find a way to get TP on the field, even if it wasn’t at QB.

    This staff ? He’s lucky to finally be activated and we still haven’t had a glimpse as to what the future might hold.

    I’m wondering whether Tits and Krapp finally decided to take a look at TP or if the order came from Reggie or Mark.

    All I know for sure is that it’s about freaking time.

  94. tonedeezy Says:

    Mayweather was so afraid of Manny that he went to jail to duck him.
    Enough said.

  95. Coach456 Says:

    DJ Johnny,

    The Raiders will not go 13-3 next season with any of the quarterbacks on the roster and by firing any of the assistant coaches. They will be lucky to win 4 or 5 games with the 2013 schedule. They play at Houston, Indianapolis, Dallas, New York Giants,face Peyton Manning twice, and not to mention who plays in Oakland – They will be lucky to win 4 games.

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