Branch back at practice, still no Seymour
By Steve Corkran
Friday, December 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am in Oakland Raiders.
Strong safety Tyvon Branch returned to practice today, and he now factors into the mix for the Raiders game plan against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Branch is battling ankle and neck issues of late. If he can’t play Sunday against the Chiefs or he aggravates an injury, Mike Mitchell will take his place.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour is the only player unable to practice today. Therefore, it’s likely that he won’t play Sunday and miss a sixth straight game.
Seymour suffered a hamstring injury against the Buccaneers on Nov. 4 and hasn’t played since that day. He returned to practice this week, only to suffer a “setback” Thursday, in coach Dennis Allen’s words.
– Still no official word from the Raiders on whether Sunday’s game sold enough tickets for the game to be televised locally.
The Raiders were granted a one-day extension by the league, which bodes well for the Raiders selling at least 85 percent of the tickets needed to avert a blackout.
Six of Oakland’s first seven regular-season home games were televised locally. The only game that failed to sell enough tickets was the one against the Browns on Dec. 2.
Fourteen of the past 15 home games were televised locally.
– Interesting item from ESPN’s Adam Schefter today:
Schefter said the Seattle Seahakws MVP jsut might be assistant head coach Tom Cable. Yes, that Tom Cable.
Here’s what Schefter wrote:
“Ask any Seattle player, and he will speak of how important Cable has been. He has helped give Seattle its physical mindset. (Running back Marshawn) Lynch even waited for reassurance that Cable would be back for 2012 before he agreed to re-sign.”
Schefter opined that Cable is on track to be considered for another head coaching gig in the NFL based on the wonders he has worked with the Seahawks.
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December 14th, 2012 at 11:26 am
inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
david shaw get’s the most out of his talent, understands the raider tradition, and get’s us back a physical brand of football.
david shaw is the answer
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I would agree. But knowing this is one of the most dysfunctional situations in all of sports and Shaw’s record is impeccable, why would Shaw come here knowing he is in a very good situation as it is and would get his pick of offers?
December 14th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Proper Dos
December 14th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Are all of next year’s starting WR’s already on the roster?
Will Jacoby Ford be one of them?
December 14th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Just like many predict that we have guys who will be cut in the offseason who probably won’t be in the NFL next year, I hope DA sees that Knapp wouldn’t fetch an OC job in the NFL next year also.
I know the league is a fraternity and HCs will give a fired guy a job so that guy could save face. So knapp might be a QB coach for a team and polish those backups footwork. But he will not be an OC for anyone next year.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Are all of next year’s starting WR’s already on the roster?
Will Jacoby Ford be one of them?
I sure hope so
December 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Are all of next year’s starting WR’s already on the roster?
Will Jacoby Ford be one of them?
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Should be
December 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Raider Nation, send out a prayer to those families in Connenticut….
SUCKS!
December 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Are all of next year’s starting WR’s already on the roster?
Will Jacoby Ford be one of them?
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Ford has played in 8 out of a possible 32 games. And he hasn’t played all that well in those 8, special teams aside. Seems like he is just keeping a roster spot from someone who actually is productive.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Knapp should be expecting the next flight out of Oakland! There has been absolutely no progression in this offense during the season! He makes these brash and direct comments to save his ass from being fired! If Allen and McK bring him back next season, we will continue to go NOWHERE! We need to move on from this disasterous season and it starts with evaluating the performance of players and coaches! Measured results tell the story, not the week-after-week BS we hear from Knapp and others who will need a job after this season!
December 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
– Interesting item from ESPN’s Adam Schefter today:
Schefter said the Seattle Seahakws MVP jsut might be assistant head coach Tom Cable. Yes, that Tom Cable.
Here’s what Schefter wrote:
“Ask any Seattle player, and he will speak of how important Cable has been. He has helped give Seattle its physical mindset. (Running back Marshawn) Lynch even waited for reassurance that Cable would be back for 2012 before he agreed to re-sign.”
Schefter opined that Cable is on track to be considered for another head coaching gig in the NFL based on the wonders he has worked with the Seahawks.
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Great! Just Freakin Great!!
December 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
cable please come beatdown DA and krapp again.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Cable, please come and strip playcalling duties away from Knapp…AGAIN.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Are all of next year’s starting WR’s already on the roster?
Will Jacoby Ford be one of them?
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Ford has played in 8 out of a possible 32 games. And he hasn’t played all that well in those 8, special teams aside. Seems like he is just keeping a roster spot from someone who actually is productive.
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He’s done more in his 8 healthy games than Eitehr Criner or Streater has done to this point.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I would agree. But knowing this is one of the most dysfunctional situations in all of sports and Shaw’s record is impeccable, why would Shaw come here knowing he is in a very good situation as it is and would get his pick of offers?
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for the challenge, because his family loves the bay area, it’s a pay raise, and because he grew up a Raider fan
December 14th, 2012 at 11:39 am
tonedeezy Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Cable, please come and strip playcalling duties away from Knapp…AGAIN.
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Or just break Dennis Allens jaw. Either, or will do
December 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Moving the team to LA was a VERY bad decision.
Taking Jamarcus Russell #1 overall was a VERY bad decision.
Getting rid of Tom Cable as HC was a VERY bad decision.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
10. If Adam Schefter says it, then it’s a good chance it’s false information.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
maybe hc cable oc hue wasn’t such a bad thing..
December 14th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Maybe the problem is our training/medical staff. Seems like every injury suffered is pretty much unrecoverable.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Cable was ok, I liked him. I didn’t like his shuffleing of QB’s and LT’s
December 14th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Moving the team to LA was a VERY bad decision.
Taking Jamarcus Russell #1 overall was a VERY bad decision.
Getting rid of Tom Cable as HC was a VERY bad decision.
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Hiring DA who later hired knappy was a VERY bad decision.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:44 am
i think they just dont wanna play for DA….sprained finger? oh i am out for the year…
December 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
lol at cable being hc material and the “wonders’ he has worked.
The truth is cables line has not pass protected well at all, this year or last year.
Covering up the failings of the pass protection is the mobilty of russell wilson. If matt flynn was the qb sack numbers would be through the roof.
The run blocking has been good, and even that has been bolstered by marshawn lynch.
cable getting fat off these two unbelievable athletes.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
If Cable came down and walked into Raiders HC and Knapp saw him, I would not want to be the janitor.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:44 am
i think they just dont wanna play for DA….sprained finger? oh i am out for the year…
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Maybe, But Ford never recovered right. Dmac last year when it was supposed to be only a few weeks. Schilenz before that had major setbacks. Shaugnessy doesn’t seem the same after his injury. Bartell, Spencer, etc…
December 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Cable was ok, I liked him. I didn’t like his shuffleing of QB’s and LT’s
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You remember who those QB’s and LT’s were right?
December 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I agree Cable’s pass protection was/is garbage. And his play calling, while still better than Knapps, wasn’t great either until Hue took over. But he worked hard, didn’t get a big head, didn’t let anything else with Al and Hue distract him and the Players had his back. He worked hard for us.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:49 am
If Branch neck is hurt how is he going to play? Pass interference all day. He can’t look back for the ball.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Cable was ok, I liked him. I didn’t like his shuffleing of QB’s and LT’s
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You remember who those QB’s and LT’s were right?
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Yes, which is even more baffeling trying to decide if Bruce Gradkowski was better than Jason Cambpell. I know Russell was their for his half season, but i’m talking about the switching during his full season. And playing Henderson for a few snaps, then Veldheer was just dumb. If your going to bench a guy, just bench him.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:52 am
504 Raider Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:49 am
If Branch neck is hurt how is he going to play? Pass interference all day. He can’t look back for the ball.
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Same as before then?
December 14th, 2012 at 11:53 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:52 am
504 Raider Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:49 am
If Branch neck is hurt how is he going to play? Pass interference all day. He can’t look back for the ball.
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Same as before then?
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No
Just blown coverages
Not close enough to commit a PI
December 14th, 2012 at 11:54 am
But he (Cable) worked hard, didn’t get a big head, didn’t let anything else with Al and Hue distract him and the Players had his back. He worked hard for us.
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Say what you want about Cable, but at least I felt like we had a CHANCE to win a game back then.. Nowadays, not so much…
December 14th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
The run blocking has been good, and even that has been bolstered by marshawn lynch.
cable getting fat off these two unbelievable athletes.
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Well again, the best friend of a Q is his running game which Tom Cable is clearly managing well up there. At least that is what one of THE top backs in the league is saying.
Or we could just look at what happened here when for two years straight you had a Raider team that played hard and well later in the year. Verus a poorly coached unprepared Hue Jackson team that vomited all over itself on the finish line.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:56 am
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December 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
The run blocking has been good, and even that has been bolstered by marshawn lynch.
cable getting fat off these two unbelievable athletes.
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Well again, the best friend of a Q is his running game which Tom Cable is clearly managing well up there. At least that is what one of THE top backs in the league is saying.
Or we could just look at what happened here when for two years straight you had a Raider team that played hard and well later in the year. Verus a poorly coached unprepared Hue Jackson team that vomited all over itself on the finish line.
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To be fair, Cable’s best year was when Hue was calling the Offense. Even Cable was willing to give up on the ZBS for the sake of the team. Probably wasn’t up to him, but he didn’t whine or complain, just kept coaching.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
The run blocking has been good, and even that has been bolstered by marshawn lynch.
cable getting fat off these two unbelievable athletes.
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Well again, the best friend of a Q is his running game which Tom Cable is clearly managing well up there. At least that is what one of THE top backs in the league is saying.
Or we could just look at what happened here when for two years straight you had a Raider team that played hard and well later in the year. Verus a poorly coached unprepared Hue Jackson team that vomited all over itself on the finish line.
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Cable may not have been the long term solution at HC, but he gave it his all. We was willing to change when thing weren’t working. He cared. He’s a very good Offense line coach and it shows. I’m happy for the guy
Now we have coaches who won’t change and don’t seem to care they are losing
December 14th, 2012 at 11:59 am
The_Judge37 Says:
He’s done more in his 8 healthy games than Eitehr Criner or Streater has done to this point.
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And therein lies the rub!
It doesn’t matter if it’s JFord, DMC, Seymour, Shaughnessy, and on and on…
When the Team invests so heavily in Players (and I don’t mean financially)…where we count on them to produce at a high level, and to at least be there when they’re counted upon…then we need a few of those Players to come through.
No, injuries aren’t usually the fault of the individual Player. But…they do affect entire Teams, and seasons.
JFord is as mercurial as DMC is. His health is, also.
Criner and Streater? Don’t look now, but both those kids could be starting next year, the potential they show is off the charts. DeMoore is a natural, and DHB is good and getting better.
If Jacoby’s not healthy enough to be used returning kicks, he’s going to have a difficult time beating-out those four for playing time…let alone journeymen like Hagan, or any other new faces we bring in.
The Raiders could be set @ WR for years already. That’s a very good thing, considering we need so many other holes filled elsewhere.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Imo, a number of these shootings are coordinated, planned. Not every one of them, but a number of them. The bilderberg/rockerfeller types who control the world, trying to remove the right to bear arms from america especially as a precursor to stricter population control and slavery.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Cable was ok, I liked him. I didn’t like his shuffleing of QB’s and LT’s
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You remember who those QB’s and LT’s were right?
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Yes, which is even more baffeling trying to decide if Bruce Gradkowski was better than Jason Cambpell. I know Russell was their for his half season, but i’m talking about the switching during his full season. And playing Henderson for a few snaps, then Veldheer was just dumb. If your going to bench a guy, just bench him.
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Russell was there for the lst year and a half of Cables two and a half year tenure. How anyone can have ANY cred in the NFL with Jamarcus Russell tied around their neck is testament right there.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Criner and Streater? Don’t look now, but both those kids could be starting next year, the potential they show is off the charts. DeMoore is a natural, and DHB is good and getting better.
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I’m not that high on these guys like everyone else is. They’re big guys who catch fade routes. So was Louis Murphy. But they don’t get much seperation and still drop balls, like Louis Murphy.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
What is going on?
Guns?
Godless society?
Video games and movies desensitizing people?
Lack of mental health assistance?
Self-centered young people who have no coping mechanisms?
Broken families?
Whatever it is this has to stop.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
GG Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Imo, a number of these shootings are coordinated, planned. Not every one of them, but a number of them. The bilderberg/rockerfeller types who control the world, trying to remove the right to bear arms from america especially as a precursor to stricter population control and slavery
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There is truth to this line of thinking. Just had this conversation with my wife who TRUELY believes this.
Wake Up America!!
December 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
prayers to the families of newtown ct who suffered a loss today. 24 yr old kills his father goes to school where his mother teaches, kills her , then kills 18 kindergarten kids and 6 other adults. today is a day i hope hell exists.may he be tormented forever.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
All this nonsense about Rolando McClain being better suited in a 3-4, with a great linebacker next to him and a dominating NT in front of him is a joke. Rolando McClain sucks period.
A good football middle/inside linebacker is a good football linebacker regardless of scheme. Look at no other than Ray Lewis.
Back in 2000, the Ravens ran a 4-3 with Ray Lewis as the Middle Linebacker. For the past 6 years or so, the Ravens have been using the 3-4 with Ray Lewis as one of the inside linebackers.
Other notable linebackers with success in both schemes include Jonathan Vilma and Takeo Spikes.
Some you in the minority think he is better suited to play in a 3-4? You need to have more speed to cover more ground! Look at the other Bay Area’s team.
My point is? Rolando was drafted in the 1st round to be a dominating linebacker, regardless of scheme. A good football player is a good football player regardless how you want to spin it.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Russell was there for the lst year and a half of Cables two and a half year tenure. How anyone can have ANY cred in the NFL with Jamarcus Russell tied around their neck is testament right there.
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Yeah he’s a POS, Russell of coarse. But even you have to admit, the mixing and matching of Bruce and Jason was a bad decision. Same for Henderson and Veldheer. Like i said, i liked Cable. He was changing the culture but wasn’t going to turn the corner, even though were weren’t ready for banking any corners.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Self-centered young people who have no coping mechanisms?
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I think this one.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
What is going on?
Guns?
Godless society?
Video games and movies desensitizing people?
Lack of mental health assistance?
Self-centered young people who have no coping mechanisms?
Broken families?
Whatever it is this has to stop.
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Agreed it has to stop, but there is and always will be just crazy insane people out there along with pure evil.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
DaRaiders022 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Play Leinhart, Pryor, Goodson, and other subs to determine what we have for next season! At this point I’d rather take losses and give others playing time to determine potential, desire and ability to make plays! Big names with high price-tags (DMC) are better off saving themselves for job interviews next season!
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There is NO reason to play Lionheart, none what so ever. TP or bust.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 10:19 am
just 5 minutes with a schyytbag like this…5 min…
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1 sec and a .45
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I guess if you want to be a teacher you are going to have to get arms training and a coceal carry. That is the only way to stop these shvtbags.
Is our own Government doing this to support the gun control agenda? Think about it there are some interesting facts out there.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Rolando McClain is a wasted pick.
I rue the day we counted on DMC to be our #1 RB, but his spectacular talent makes the hope understandable.
However, the McClain pick is one of the worst the Raiders have ever made. His head, heart, and his giant weak body have all failed us.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
The Port Arthur Massacre in Australia is one of the clearer examples of that.
http://www.whale.to/b/viallspam.html
A bonafide mental retard with no shooting experience, achieving 30 hits and 20 kills from 29 bullets in 90 seconds, is so tell-tale.
And the time-stamps don’t add up, him being in two different places at too close a time gap. Two armed men with trained military background.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
There is a local case where a guy in his twenties is suspected of killing him mom because she wouldn’t give him a cut of money she had just come into.
Smh
December 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
To be fair, Cable’s best year was when Hue was calling the Offense. Even Cable was willing to give up on the ZBS for the sake of the team. Probably wasn’t up to him, but he didn’t whine or complain, just kept coaching.
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True, but they were running Cables offense not Jacksons. And some of Jackson’s success probably has to do with the team running the same system for two years as much as you guys are going to hate to hear that. But the league caught up to Jackson as a playcaller in his tenure as HC.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
There is NO reason to play Lionheart, none what so ever. TP or bust.
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gannon was in his season 12 when he got here, seasons over evaluate everyone, it’s only his 6th year
December 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Russell was there for the lst year and a half of Cables two and a half year tenure. How anyone can have ANY cred in the NFL with Jamarcus Russell tied around their neck is testament right there.
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Yeah he’s a POS, Russell of coarse. But even you have to admit, the mixing and matching of Bruce and Jason was a bad decision. Same for Henderson and Veldheer. Like i said, i liked Cable. He was changing the culture but wasn’t going to turn the corner, even though were weren’t ready for banking any corners.
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I agree, but as I have said on this site many times, these coaches have to see what they have. Look at Veldheer. to Cables credit, he knew he had a player there, but was Veldheer better as a center or LT? And even if he was a better center or wanted to play center, would the team be better with him at LT? Those are the decisions that sometimes get lost in translation.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
LMAO, at this article about Cable. There are men who are great at leading, then there are men who make great assistants for these leaders. Tom cable,Norv turner,Hue jackson,Wade phillips, just to name a few, make great assistants but they are, 2 pickles shy of a deluxe burger, and not all coaches can take the pressure or stress related to the job.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
#49-Jesus-you can’t be serious.That is pretty sick.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Matt Leinart’s not the answer. Not even close.
The Raiders don’t need a good, serviceable, QB to replace Carson Palmer. The Raiders need a GREAT QB to replace Palmer.
Want to be in the Playoffs year-in and year-out? Don’t bring in the highest-profile HC or/and GM. Be lucky enough (and astute enough) to land a true “franchise QB.”
A great QB makes GM’s, Coaches, and the Players around him look better. A great QB makes a Bill Belichik look like he re-invented the football. A great QB keeps his Team in the hunt for years.
Matt Leinart is a college has-been. TP may have some talent…but does he have enough to be great? Does he have the brains to be great? We need to see…but odds are against him being the answer, also.
The Raiders need a few new legends. From anywhere on the field. But, especially at QB.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Just because you are a GREAT assistant doesn’t make you a good Head Coach.
Josh McDaniels
Ron Rivera
Steve Spagnulo
Romeo Crennel
Todd Haley
All great “coordinators” but terrible head coaches! Any great head coach with talent can make all his assistants look very good!
December 14th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
WTF is wrong with people man?!?!
Kids????
And you would think you wouldn’t need to stay heated in these good neighborhoods.
I’m going to start rethinking that.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
#49-Jesus-you can’t be serious.That is pretty sick.
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Remember that we live in a world where people also believe that 9/11 was an inside job, 0bama was born in Kenya, and the “Clinton Body Count” is real.
There will be a segment of people who will believe the exciting fantasy over the banal truth.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Tom “Laying” Cable is irrelevant to anything and everything other than wife beaters anonymous which is where he belongs.
Big Dick Seymour is irrelevant, happy to swindle Al Davis in his dying days as a “franchise” player and is coasting, making millions for standing like a doofus on the sidelines with no value at all other than to Big Dick himself.
Branch is damaged goods, shopworn and… irrelevant.
What else you got Cork?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Are you stoopid or something koolkell?
Right after a post shows someone in China attacking children, you post that this is normal in America, but no where else?
Short attention span?
• inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 10:28 am
http://www. cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57559179/china-school-knife-attack-leaves-23-injured/
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• KoolKell Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 10:44 am
This schit is Normal in America, but nowhere else in the world.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
#49-Jesus-you can’t be serious.That is pretty sick.
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Lefty
I am not a very political guy but I have been a shhep for way too long.
I do not want to believe this, but some of the facts behind it are really head scratchers.
I did not post this to debate it or argue or piss people off.
Do some research. Hint: it will not be in the main stream media.
Start with Aurora, the Government is manipulating these people to do their bidding. They ultimately want to take away our guns and rights so we will not be able to fight back. The revolution is not far off if we do not wake up.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
WTF is wrong with people man?!?!
Kids????
And you would think you wouldn’t need to stay heated in these good neighborhoods.
I’m going to start rethinking that.
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First and foremost whoever perpetrated this should get ABSOLUTELY NO RUN. I don’t want to know their name, I don’t want to see this idiots grill, absolutely nothing about them other than “deranged gun toting idiot”. When deranged gun toting idiots no longer get glory and fame and attention, I will bet you will see a very sharp drop off in these kinds of incidents.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Later peoples!
Put one in da air Green party!
Ya have a safe, solid weekend playuhs.
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
December 14th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I can’t imagine being one of these parents when it was going down.
I really can’t imagine being one of the parents who lost a kid.
It makes me want to puke, cry, and kick the SVHT out of someone.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Nah …
Do you know what type of nut case you have to be to kill Pops first, leave the house, drive to Moms work, pop her, then go postal on some KIDS????
Lone nut here fellas.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Was it his Dad or his brother?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
The cowardice of it all! What a sick, demented FVCK. If there is a hell this guy should head right to the front of the line. Or are we living in hell?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Cable-another case of an ex-raider going elsewhere, and doing well.
the list is so very long of players/coaches leaving, and excelling with other teams.
The list is pretty short of players/coaches coming to Oakland and doing better than their previous gigs.
Easy to figure out why.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
When deranged gun toting idiots no longer get glory and fame and attention, I will bet you will see a very sharp drop off in these kinds of incidents.
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But this is America. Built and molded by guns and violence.
I bet you if we were all strapped, a lot of this BS would stop.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
We all need to get strapped and do it as soon as possible.
I am going to sign up for a CC permit in about an hour.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I wonder what % of these nut cases come from broken homes, rarely attend church (I am not big on church, but obviously right from wrong is not getting through to these young people), and spend large amounts of time playing first-person shooter video games?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
At least Cable told Knapp he sucked ballz and stripped him of play calling duties. DA only strips players of their duties ie: Jones, ausberry, chekwa, curry.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Anyone think Jones gets some reps next game?
stupid question I know.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
WTF is wrong with people man?!?!
Kids????
And you would think you wouldn’t need to stay heated in these good neighborhoods.
I’m going to start rethinking that.
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First and foremost whoever perpetrated this should get ABSOLUTELY NO RUN. I don’t want to know their name, I don’t want to see this idiots grill, absolutely nothing about them other than “deranged gun toting idiot”. When deranged gun toting idiots no longer get glory and fame and attention, I will bet you will see a very sharp drop off in these kinds of incidents.
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Not sure this guy falls into the “wants attention” category. Sounds more like he flipped, and totally lost it.
As compared to the ones who love seeing their name in lights. the serial killers who save their clips.
Reportedly, one of the things that Dennis Ryder misses the most is reading about his horrible crimes, and part of his seclusion is he will never have access to anything printed about him, or his horrible deeds.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
EpaVet Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Just because you are a GREAT assistant doesn’t make you a good Head Coach.
Josh McDaniels
Ron Rivera
Steve Spagnulo
Romeo Crennel
Todd Haley
All great “coordinators” but terrible head coaches! Any great head coach with talent can make all his assistants look very good!
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Agree with the list above except for maybe Todd Haley. I think he got a raw deal in KC.
As for those who are saying this about Cable and Jackson. The coaches on this great assistants and horrible head coaches have failed miserably at the HC position. Neither Cable or Jackson failed miserably. They were give 1 year and they were average. I wouldn’t put them in what i call the “Norv Turner” category until they have proven to fail.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Tom Cable got nearly 3 years, and owes his only 8-8 season to Hue opening up the offense and a very very weak schedule.
I would love to see Cable coach an AFC West rival.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I wonder what % of these nut cases come from broken homes, rarely attend church (I am not big on church, but obviously right from wrong is not getting through to these young people), and spend large amounts of time playing first-person shooter video games?
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Agree with nut cases most likely coming from broken homes.
However, video games?????? Yes nut cases most likely play violent video games, but video games don’t contribute to a person becoming a complete whack job.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
We all need to get strapped and do it as soon as possible.
I am going to sign up for a CC permit in about an hour.
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lol
You can’t just walk up and get a CC permit.
As well, a CC permit is usually only good in the city you applied for it. You can’t go outside the limit, and carry. have to apply in each and every jurisdiction, and most Captains that ok CC, do so only in extreme circumstances, knowing their decision could come back and cost them their job, or their position.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Sadly, as many nutjobs who lose it come from solid family backgrounds, as broken homes.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Tom Cable got nearly 3 years, and owes his only 8-8 season to Hue opening up the offense and a very very weak schedule.
I would love to see Cable coach an AFC West rival.
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I can see the point of Cable succeeding because of Hue.
I’m not 100% convinced I would want to see Cable as an AFC West rival…well not at this point. His passion alone will push his team to beat us (because our coaches obvious lack all passion). But if we did have a good team, we would probably feast on a cable coached team.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/13/coordinators-knapp-tarver-expect-leap-in-production-next-season/
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DA and Knapp still went around the question. Idiots.
This team is not going anywhere with these clowns as the coaches.
Believe it!
December 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
80.rudegruden Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I wonder what % of these nut cases come from broken homes, rarely attend church (I am not big on church, but obviously right from wrong is not getting through to these young people), and spend large amounts of time playing first-person shooter video games?
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Agree with nut cases most likely coming from broken homes.
However, video games?????? Yes nut cases most likely play violent video games, but video games don’t contribute to a person becoming a complete whack job.
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Hey, I still play violent video games occasionally, but I could see where playing these ultra-realistic first person shooter video games since you were 10 years old, could, over time, desensitize you to the point that you could pull the trigger on children. Just food for thought. I grew up playing video games all the time, mostly sports, but some violent games…..but back in the 1990s there were no where near as realistic as they have become over the past decade.
I think they are cool, but maybe there is something to this?
I don’t know.
Guns have been easily accessible for the past 200+ years in this country…..what else has changed in that time to make these events more and more prevalent?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-what-happens-when-a-nation-bans-guns/
December 14th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
When deranged gun toting idiots no longer get glory and fame and attention, I will bet you will see a very sharp drop off in these kinds of incidents.
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But this is America. Built and molded by guns and violence.
I bet you if we were all strapped, a lot of this BS would stop.
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You would be right. Gun laws protect crimi-nals, not average Joe citizen.
Crimi-nals will always have guns.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
But Greg, youve never been responsible for an improving unit. Your first season in SF, 2001, they finished 3rd in scoring. 2002, 9th. 2003, 13th. Regression each year. You were let go by SF.
You went over to ATL in 05. They finished 14th in scoring your first season, 16th your second. More regression. You were let go by ATL.
You came here in 07, and we ended up 23rd. 2008, we end up 29th, AND you had play calling stripped from you MID-SEASON. We actually IMPROVED when Cable started calling plays. Yikes. Once again, regression. You were not retained.
Went to Seattle in 09, where they let you go after one season where you got them to 25th in scoring. They let you go, hire Tom Cable as assistant head coach, where he implements the ZBS in HIS vision, and BOOM, Seattle is now one of the top rushing teams in the league.
Which brings you back to the Oakland Raiders in 2012. In your first season back, you have us ranked 25th in scoring. Last season, we were 16th, and lost our owner, starting QB, and starting RB mid-season.
I dont even need to throw any negative comments at Greg Knapp about his abilities. At this point, Im just starting to feel sorry for him. He’s just never been any good, and its written history.
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Can we get this info forwarded to Mark and Amy?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
The filter here is so whack.
I had to hypen criminals for the previous post to go through. Let’s see if this goes through.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
9/11 was an inside job
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watch the videos on this, alotta bs but here are some facts:
the buildings came down demolition/freefall style no resistance from lower floors
firecaptain at the scene said it was an isolated fire can be contained within two floors of the building thus people can go back to work
byu chemist studied the ash and found undeniable evidence of heavy amounts of explosive materials throughout the soot
in the history of buildings set aflame, 3 have completely collapsed all 3 were at the wtc site
there was a 3rd building that collapsed demolition/freefall style that day that wasn’t hit by a plane. Buildings tentants included the secret service, irs and cia
dozens of survivors that were in the building claimed of hearing and feeling the effects of large explosions in the building underneath the building and before the planes hit
NORAD trained in stopping terrorists planes from crashing into the pentagon/white house/ and buildings were nowhere to be found while bush and rice denied ever being able to predict something like this happening
in an age of video surveilance there’s no video evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon
owner collected 4.6 billion in insurance claims on the attacks
no evidence of bodies where the plane crashed
December 14th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RockinRaider Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
We all need to get strapped and do it as soon as possible.
I am going to sign up for a CC permit in about an hour.
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lol
You can’t just walk up and get a CC permit.
As well, a CC permit is usually only good in the city you applied for it. You can’t go outside the limit, and carry. have to apply in each and every jurisdiction, and most Captains that ok CC, do so only in extreme circumstances, knowing their decision could come back and cost them their job, or their position.thanks for your incorrect insight.
The cc permit is good for the whole state I live in. Class starts tomorrow and 8 hrs later I will be able to CC.
Thanks for playing
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December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
80.rudegruden Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I wonder what % of these nut cases come from broken homes, rarely attend church (I am not big on church, but obviously right from wrong is not getting through to these young people), and spend large amounts of time playing first-person shooter video games?
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Agree with nut cases most likely coming from broken homes.
However, video games?????? Yes nut cases most likely play violent video games, but video games don’t contribute to a person becoming a complete whack job.
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Hey, I still play violent video games occasionally, but I could see where playing these ultra-realistic first person shooter video games since you were 10 years old, could, over time, desensitize you to the point that you could pull the trigger on children. Just food for thought. I grew up playing video games all the time, mostly sports, but some violent games…..but back in the 1990s there were no where near as realistic as they have become over the past decade.
I think they are cool, but maybe there is something to this?
I don’t know.
Guns have been easily accessible for the past 200+ years in this country…..what else has changed in that time to make these events more and more prevalent?
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I personally think (which I have no evidence of) the exposure to instant and massive press play a big role. I’m not blaming the media, but now completely crazy people think they can make a country wide and maybe World wide impact by performing crazy acts. They know how quickly information is released and how much of it there is out there. I truly think they believe these acts are their way of expressing their either views, troubles, or getting pure attention.
Case in point this story will run for weeks and talk about the shooter and other political views (such as gun control). This was not the case in the past especially out such a large scale
December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Why so much of this schit in this country? I think its the gun culture.
More guns here than anywhere in the world.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
And loonies out there still don’t want tigther gun control laws??
Wow!
Thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the deceased in the senseless tragedy on Connecticut.
The children killed? OMG. Sad….
December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
92.rudegruden Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I personally think (which I have no evidence of) the exposure to instant and massive press play a big role. I’m not blaming the media, but now completely crazy people think they can make a country wide and maybe World wide impact by performing crazy acts. They know how quickly information is released and how much of it there is out there. I truly think they believe these acts are their way of expressing their either views, troubles, or getting pure attention.
Case in point this story will run for weeks and talk about the shooter and other political views (such as gun control). This was not the case in the past especially out such a large scale
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Maybe…..but then why off yourself? Maybe that is the case with the Colorado nut job.
Is it because they grew up being taught that they were somehow special and equal to all of their classmates, and once they got into the real world that is merit based, they couldn’t cope? Now this is the only way to garner the special attention they always thought and were taught they deserved?
Maybe that is part of it.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
On second thought maybe Marcus Lattimore, is not a bad idea after all. McFadden’s contract is up next year. Maybe we can seat through the injuries next year and let Lattimore heal up on the bench and when DMAC is a FA we bring in Lattimore.
I was originally against the idea of Lattimore but it could work out in that scenario –assuming he can still ball-up after he heals.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
To be fair, Cable’s best year was when Hue was calling the Offense. Even Cable was willing to give up on the ZBS for the sake of the team. Probably wasn’t up to him, but he didn’t whine or complain, just kept coaching.
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True, but they were running Cables offense not Jacksons. And some of Jackson’s success probably has to do with the team running the same system for two years as much as you guys are going to hate to hear that. But the league caught up to Jackson as a playcaller in his tenure as HC.
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Well it’s been said that Davis gave Hue sole control of the offense in Cable’s last year. Yes i do agree that it has to do with running the same offense for two years, continutity is good. But both Cable and Hue showed progress in their first years, even if it’s very little and doesn’t account for wins. There’s no progress going on here.
Sure the league caught up to Hue’s gimmic plays. But They’re also on to Knapps basic plays.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Russell was there for the lst year and a half of Cables two and a half year tenure. How anyone can have ANY cred in the NFL with Jamarcus Russell tied around their neck is testament right there.
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Yeah he’s a POS, Russell of coarse. But even you have to admit, the mixing and matching of Bruce and Jason was a bad decision. Same for Henderson and Veldheer. Like i said, i liked Cable. He was changing the culture but wasn’t going to turn the corner, even though were weren’t ready for banking any corners.
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I agree, but as I have said on this site many times, these coaches have to see what they have. Look at Veldheer. to Cables credit, he knew he had a player there, but was Veldheer better as a center or LT? And even if he was a better center or wanted to play center, would the team be better with him at LT? Those are the decisions that sometimes get lost in translation.
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Agreed.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
us gun deaths about 9000/yr
japan (just as violent video games) 20 /yr
canada (lots of guns) 200/yr
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”
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Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
93.KoolKell Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Why so much of this schit in this country? I think its the gun culture.
More guns here than anywhere in the world.
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It was as easy or easier to get a gun in the 50s, 60s and 70s…..why is this happeneing now with tighter gun control laws?
There is much more to it than just guns KK.
What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?
Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
92.rudegruden Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I personally think (which I have no evidence of) the exposure to instant and massive press play a big role. I’m not blaming the media, but now completely crazy people think they can make a country wide and maybe World wide impact by performing crazy acts. They know how quickly information is released and how much of it there is out there. I truly think they believe these acts are their way of expressing their either views, troubles, or getting pure attention.
Case in point this story will run for weeks and talk about the shooter and other political views (such as gun control). This was not the case in the past especially out such a large scale
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Maybe…..but then why off yourself? Maybe that is the case with the Colorado nut job.
Is it because they grew up being taught that they were somehow special and equal to all of their classmates, and once they got into the real world that is merit based, they couldn’t cope? Now this is the only way to garner the special attention they always thought and were taught they deserved?
Maybe that is part of it.
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Hell who really knows. All we know is that you have to be one f’d up individual to do this
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Old Al made the dumb mistake to get rid of the Cable, Hue and Marshall tandem after how they dominated the AFC West that year.
Then Davis and McK makes it worse by getting rid of Hue and bringing in a young rookie head coach and changing everything when it wasn’t necessary. Then the rookie head coach hires bad retreads in Knapp and Hoffman then young inexperienced rookie DC in Tarver.
Lousy all across the board.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Otherwise that Eddie Lacy kid from Bama, looks like the bruiser we’ve needed for a while. Tired of the fragile “finess” backs like jones goodson and McFadden.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Another coach we sorley miss is Tom Rathman. He’s the one who showed McFadden how to hold onto a ball and Block. If Goodson and Taiwan learned those things we’d have a great RB core.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
us gun deaths about 9000/yr
japan (just as violent video games) 20 /yr
canada (lots of guns) 200/yr
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I was stationed in Japan for 5 years. Very few guns there.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
100.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”
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Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.
^^^^^^^^
Terrible isn’t it?
Davis and McK need to get rid of these clowns and bring in a real HC like Gruden to turn it around!
December 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
raidertalk Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Otherwise that Eddie Lacy kid from Bama, looks like the bruiser we’ve needed for a while. Tired of the fragile “finess” backs like jones goodson and McFadden.
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Fragile? Sure. But McFadden is far from Finess. I like his running style, he lays the wood to defenders.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
And loonies out there still don’t want tigther gun control laws??
Wow!
Thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the deceased in the senseless tragedy on Connecticut.
The children killed? OMG. Sad….
December 14th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Does anyone see the irony and complete lack of logic of laws against guns?
There are laws against killing people and yet the person who kills breaks that law without remorse. The law didn’t stop the criminal.
There is a HUGE moral and cultural stigma against attacking and murdering children even among criminals. Didn’t stop today’s NUT job.
What LAW was going to prevent this attack today? This nut job couldn’t buy a gun off the black market? That’s laughable.
How are the laws against drugs working out for us? Brink of bankrupcy if you haven’t been paying attention.
The MASSIVE police state required to enable gun control is NOT the country I want to live in. We can’t even pay teachers to educate our children properly and somehow we are going to enforce gun laws in a country that remains LARGELY rural?
I live 10 mins outside of a farily large metro/tourist city and haven’t seen a cop in a month…I even called them on Wednesday to report a dangerous man next to our school and got hung up on.
Crazy….
December 14th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes,
In 2010 8,775 people were killed by firearm of which only 358 were by rifles (ar-15) for example.
But the gun control morons in this country talk about banning rifles. A tragedy occurred today, but lets not act like rifles are the problem. I dont hear anybody talk about tougher alcohol laws,.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
“he lays the wood to defenders”:
Used to…
December 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?
Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.
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That too, Dakota. But people wern’t buying semi-automatic weapons with massive clips in the 50’s 60’s. And, I don’t believe guns were just as easy to get back then. I grew up in Oakland in the 60’s. Very few guns in the hood back then. People used to fistfight.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Maybe we need some laws about NUT jobs…
December 14th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
There’s virtually no gun control in the US
December 14th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
100.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”
Levi Damien@LeviDamien
DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”
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Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.
^^^^^^^^
Terrible isn’t it?
Davis and McK need to get rid of these clowns and bring in a real HC like Gruden to turn it around!
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The problem is, you get a quote from Reggie, he backs Allen who backs Knapp/Tarver.
Mark needs to listen to his heart, and fire the lot of them.
I believe Mark will do it and hire Gruden to whatever capacity he asks for.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Nut jobs do seem to be the common theme.
I can’t imagine having to lock up every odd person in the nation…..the cities would be empty!
December 14th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Krappy and Tarver expect to continue with their schemes next season. Junior truly believes in the “system.” According to Krappy and Tarver:
The key is patience. Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver said their schemes are sound, but they take time to implement and for the players to learn. Bringing back as many players as possible from this year’s team and giving them a year to adjust are going to pay huge dividends.
So, same staff and “as many players as possible” to return next season, because it takes time to learn these schemes.
Who are they’re trying to fool?
Krappy and Tarver are now rocket scientist?
Are their schemes really that difficult to learn? Are the Raiders players a junior varsity team with learning disabilities?
This is all the usual robocoach BS that the Raiders staff is feeding the fans through the BA press, and of course, the current love affair between them pretends to make us sit and wait while they try to mask their ineptitude.
So, for any of you who somehow had a fantasy about chokey returning to coach the Raiders or a “massive” roster turnover, should probably put it to rest until this time next season when we’ll probably continue to see the same ol’ samo.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
In Mexico, no pistols larger than a .380, 38 super, 38 special (Revolvers) are allowed. Doesn’t make them any less safer when it comes to gun violence.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
There’s virtually no gun control in the US
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Tell that to Plaxico, who served 2 years in NY for shooting himself
December 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
113.KoolKell Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?
Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.
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That too, Dakota. But people wern’t buying semi-automatic weapons with massive clips in the 50’s 60’s. And, I don’t believe guns were just as easy to get back then. I grew up in Oakland in the 60’s. Very few guns in the hood back then. People used to fistfight.
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Maybe limit internet sales of this stuff? Would nut jobs be less likely to go down and buy this stuff from local gun dealers? Would they think they might get caught, or could be identified? Or maybe they just wouldn’t want to look a person in the eye as they purchased these guns?
fk, I don’t know.
Maybe psychological testing requirements?
December 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
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Then why in the fk doesnt this schit happen in Europe and Asia where there’s tight gun control?
December 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
prayers to all thoes in the shooting. didn’t know anything till I read it on goggle.
I do hope it stops.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
new post
December 14th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
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Then why in the fk doesnt this schit happen in Europe and Asia where there’s tight gun control?
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Maybe there’s just not many pansies out there who can’t deal with minor social issues. These guys out doing these stunts are all punks who can’t deal with a little adversity in their lives.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I watched a show last night called panic 911, crazy show. Some guy had two handguns and was walking down his neighborhood and killed bunch of innocent people. A ton of calls to 911 came in. 11 minutes later the thirst officer arrives and blasts this s.o.b …… while watching this I’m wondering why somebody in this neighborhood didn’t come outside with a rifle and this nut. I’ve owned guns for years, know to use them and wouldn’t cal 911 first. If every person in that neighborhood had a gun, a lot fewer people would have died.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Greg Papa said Hue Jackson was the real coach in 2010 which is why he had the job in 2011.
Cable is a good motivator tho. He is not a HC
December 14th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Hate mongering rural hate radio, that repubs listen too all day about black helicopters and other dumbschit.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Raiders game Sunday is sold out, will be on local TV
December 14th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Its horrible what happened today.. freaking horrible. But dang the soap box gets worn the f out on days like this.
Everyone wants change.. but ppl forget about it in a week. Thats the sad state we live in. Look at that theatre shootin… mall on monday. Everyone had forgot.
Zero change
December 14th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
119.The_Judge37 Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
In Mexico, no pistols larger than a .380, 38 super, 38 special (Revolvers) are allowed. Doesn’t make them any less safer when it comes to gun violence.
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Making it harder for nut jobs and or any other person to purchase a gun legally is needed in this country.
Plain and simple.
Nothing wrong with making it harder to buy a gun…legally that is.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
129.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 14th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Raiders game Sunday is sold out, will be on local TV
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How in the heck did they sell out that Toilet Bowl game tomorrow?
At least I can actually watch the battle for the #1 pick tomorrow and see if Pryor actually plays. LOL
December 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Raider (since 1967)
★★★★★★★
Hi Cork! You know I often ask myself why is there not a Contract quote that say -we( Raiders) will make contract payments according to games played in the (season).
Full season payments of player contracts will be void if player doesn’t comform to contracts.
Therefore Richard Seymore plays 6 games -we pay him for 6
Games!
December 14th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Just putting all my thoughts into one post here….
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All the people responding to gun control political-media driven talk are not seeing the forest from the trees, just letting media/politics do the thinking for themselves.
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In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes.
In 2010 8,775 people were killed by firearm of which only 358 were by rifles (ar-15) for example.
But the gun control morons in this country talk about banning rifles. A tragedy occurred today, but lets not act like rifles are the problem. I dont hear anybody talk about tougher alcohol laws
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Does anyone see the irony and complete lack of logic of laws against guns?
There are laws against killing people and yet the person who kills breaks that law without remorse. The law didn’t stop the criminal.
There is a HUGE moral and cultural stigma against attacking and murdering children even among criminals. Didn’t stop today’s NUT job.
What LAW was going to prevent this attack today? This nut job couldn’t buy a gun off the black market? That’s laughable.
How are the laws against drugs working out for us? Brink of bankrupcy if you haven’t been paying attention.
The MASSIVE police state required to enable gun control is NOT the country I want to live in.
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I do feel we’ve become too coddled as a society. Now the slightest thing hurts and offends people and they don’t know how to deal with it. Most of the people who go on these crazy rampages, you can tell they haven’t been through much adversity and can’t cope.
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So much naivety and BS going to be posted in this thread by a lot of shallow thinking people (letting media/politics do their thinking) instead of researching and applying logic, and by people who will just parrot catchphrase-like generalizations.
I’m not going to hang around responding to it all. It’s depressing to realize the degree people have become reactionary knee-jerkers.
Let it be that what I have stated in my previous few posts can be used as a reply to the thousand shallow postings that this thread will attract.
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20 little kids GG, 20 little kids….
Just think on the reality of that for a minute & I dare you not to feel the need to throw up.
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You’re splintering off on a different tangent. You’re focusing on the sadness of the death of 20 children, which has nothing to do with gun control laws. As I explained previously, if a crazy person wants to kill 20 kids via gun violence, in a hypothetical society with tough gun laws, they can still freely purchase guns. Laws do not stop crimes. Laws against particular devices do not stop crimes using those particular devices.
It’s incidental who got killed here. Kids, women, men…it’s irrelevant to the topic of “gun control.”
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That’s a cop out, GG. If you want to make the “legal killer” comparison you need to acknowledge that alcohol can be used safely, even if it frequently abused. Guns have one function.
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Guns can and have been used safely in society. In America, using those stats I posted….there were 8,000 deaths by guns, and only 350 by high-powered rifles. There are tens of millions of guns and high-powered rifles in legal and non-legal ownership in the USA. That means guns were safely being used 99% of the time, by 99% of the people in gun ownership.
Repeat…it’s against the law to drink and drive. There were still 10,000 deaths in the USA in 2010 by drink-driving.
Gun control laws are a red-herring BS cop-out political/media agenda.
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December 15th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
You forget Cable got rid of himself! so quick to forget the legal troubles he had at his departure bringing women to games away games at that then having trouble with them. Wow! Go Cable!