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Branch back at practice, still no Seymour

By Steve Corkran
Friday, December 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am in Oakland Raiders.

Strong safety Tyvon Branch returned to practice today, and he now factors into the mix for the Raiders game plan against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Branch is battling ankle and neck issues of late. If he can’t play Sunday against the Chiefs or he aggravates an injury, Mike Mitchell will take his place.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour is the only player unable to practice today. Therefore, it’s likely that he won’t play Sunday and miss a sixth straight game.
Seymour suffered a hamstring injury against the Buccaneers on Nov. 4 and hasn’t played since that day. He returned to practice this week, only to suffer a “setback” Thursday, in coach Dennis Allen’s words.

– Still no official word from the Raiders on whether Sunday’s game sold enough tickets for the game to be televised locally.
The Raiders were granted a one-day extension by the league, which bodes well for the Raiders selling at least 85 percent of the tickets needed to avert a blackout.
Six of Oakland’s first seven regular-season home games were televised locally. The only game that failed to sell enough tickets was the one against the Browns on Dec. 2.
Fourteen of the past 15 home games were televised locally.

– Interesting item from ESPN’s Adam Schefter today:
Schefter said the Seattle Seahakws MVP jsut might be assistant head coach Tom Cable. Yes, that Tom Cable.
Here’s what Schefter wrote:
“Ask any Seattle player, and he will speak of how important Cable has been. He has helped give Seattle its physical mindset. (Running back Marshawn) Lynch even waited for reassurance that Cable would be back for 2012 before he agreed to re-sign.”
Schefter opined that Cable is on track to be considered for another head coaching gig in the NFL based on the wonders he has worked with the Seahawks.

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  • Dakota

    93.KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    Why so much of this schit in this country? I think its the gun culture.

    More guns here than anywhere in the world.
    ____________________

    It was as easy or easier to get a gun in the 50s, 60s and 70s…..why is this happeneing now with tighter gun control laws?

    There is much more to it than just guns KK.

    What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?

    Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.

  • rudegruden

    Dakota Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    92.rudegruden Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    I personally think (which I have no evidence of) the exposure to instant and massive press play a big role. I’m not blaming the media, but now completely crazy people think they can make a country wide and maybe World wide impact by performing crazy acts. They know how quickly information is released and how much of it there is out there. I truly think they believe these acts are their way of expressing their either views, troubles, or getting pure attention.

    Case in point this story will run for weeks and talk about the shooter and other political views (such as gun control). This was not the case in the past especially out such a large scale
    _____________

    Maybe…..but then why off yourself? Maybe that is the case with the Colorado nut job.

    Is it because they grew up being taught that they were somehow special and equal to all of their classmates, and once they got into the real world that is merit based, they couldn’t cope? Now this is the only way to garner the special attention they always thought and were taught they deserved?
    Maybe that is part of it.

    ——————-

    Hell who really knows. All we know is that you have to be one f’d up individual to do this

  • DKnight007

    Old Al made the dumb mistake to get rid of the Cable, Hue and Marshall tandem after how they dominated the AFC West that year.

    Then Davis and McK makes it worse by getting rid of Hue and bringing in a young rookie head coach and changing everything when it wasn’t necessary. Then the rookie head coach hires bad retreads in Knapp and Hoffman then young inexperienced rookie DC in Tarver.

    Lousy all across the board.

  • raidertalk

    Otherwise that Eddie Lacy kid from Bama, looks like the bruiser we’ve needed for a while. Tired of the fragile “finess” backs like jones goodson and McFadden.

  • The_Judge37

    Another coach we sorley miss is Tom Rathman. He’s the one who showed McFadden how to hold onto a ball and Block. If Goodson and Taiwan learned those things we’d have a great RB core.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Inonewordraider Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    us gun deaths about 9000/yr
    japan (just as violent video games) 20 /yr
    canada (lots of guns) 200/yr
    ———————–
    I was stationed in Japan for 5 years. Very few guns there.

  • DKnight007

    100.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”

    ————————————

    Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Terrible isn’t it?

    Davis and McK need to get rid of these clowns and bring in a real HC like Gruden to turn it around!

  • The_Judge37

    raidertalk Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Otherwise that Eddie Lacy kid from Bama, looks like the bruiser we’ve needed for a while. Tired of the fragile “finess” backs like jones goodson and McFadden.
    ———-

    Fragile? Sure. But McFadden is far from Finess. I like his running style, he lays the wood to defenders.

  • DKnight007

    And loonies out there still don’t want tigther gun control laws??

    Wow!

    Thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the deceased in the senseless tragedy on Connecticut.

    The children killed? OMG. Sad….

  • JLofty

    Does anyone see the irony and complete lack of logic of laws against guns?
    There are laws against killing people and yet the person who kills breaks that law without remorse. The law didn’t stop the criminal.
    There is a HUGE moral and cultural stigma against attacking and murdering children even among criminals. Didn’t stop today’s NUT job.
    What LAW was going to prevent this attack today? This nut job couldn’t buy a gun off the black market? That’s laughable.
    How are the laws against drugs working out for us? Brink of bankrupcy if you haven’t been paying attention.

    The MASSIVE police state required to enable gun control is NOT the country I want to live in. We can’t even pay teachers to educate our children properly and somehow we are going to enforce gun laws in a country that remains LARGELY rural?
    I live 10 mins outside of a farily large metro/tourist city and haven’t seen a cop in a month…I even called them on Wednesday to report a dangerous man next to our school and got hung up on.
    Crazy….

  • CVRaider

    In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes,

    In 2010 8,775 people were killed by firearm of which only 358 were by rifles (ar-15) for example.

    But the gun control morons in this country talk about banning rifles. A tragedy occurred today, but lets not act like rifles are the problem. I dont hear anybody talk about tougher alcohol laws,.

  • JLofty

    “he lays the wood to defenders”:
    Used to…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?

    Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.
    ————————-
    That too, Dakota. But people wern’t buying semi-automatic weapons with massive clips in the 50′s 60′s. And, I don’t believe guns were just as easy to get back then. I grew up in Oakland in the 60′s. Very few guns in the hood back then. People used to fistfight.

  • JLofty

    Maybe we need some laws about NUT jobs…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    There’s virtually no gun control in the US

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    100.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”

    ————————————

    Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Terrible isn’t it?

    Davis and McK need to get rid of these clowns and bring in a real HC like Gruden to turn it around!

    ++++++++++++++

    The problem is, you get a quote from Reggie, he backs Allen who backs Knapp/Tarver.

    Mark needs to listen to his heart, and fire the lot of them.

    I believe Mark will do it and hire Gruden to whatever capacity he asks for.

  • Dakota

    Nut jobs do seem to be the common theme.

    I can’t imagine having to lock up every odd person in the nation…..the cities would be empty!

  • zopi

    Krappy and Tarver expect to continue with their schemes next season. Junior truly believes in the “system.” According to Krappy and Tarver:

    The key is patience. Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver said their schemes are sound, but they take time to implement and for the players to learn. Bringing back as many players as possible from this year’s team and giving them a year to adjust are going to pay huge dividends.

    So, same staff and “as many players as possible” to return next season, because it takes time to learn these schemes.

    Who are they’re trying to fool?
    Krappy and Tarver are now rocket scientist?
    Are their schemes really that difficult to learn? Are the Raiders players a junior varsity team with learning disabilities?

    This is all the usual robocoach BS that the Raiders staff is feeding the fans through the BA press, and of course, the current love affair between them pretends to make us sit and wait while they try to mask their ineptitude.

    So, for any of you who somehow had a fantasy about chokey returning to coach the Raiders or a “massive” roster turnover, should probably put it to rest until this time next season when we’ll probably continue to see the same ol’ samo.

  • The_Judge37

    Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.

    In Mexico, no pistols larger than a .380, 38 super, 38 special (Revolvers) are allowed. Doesn’t make them any less safer when it comes to gun violence.

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    There’s virtually no gun control in the US
    ——–

    Tell that to Plaxico, who served 2 years in NY for shooting himself

  • Dakota

    113.KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?

    Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.
    ————————-
    That too, Dakota. But people wern’t buying semi-automatic weapons with massive clips in the 50’s 60’s. And, I don’t believe guns were just as easy to get back then. I grew up in Oakland in the 60’s. Very few guns in the hood back then. People used to fistfight.

    +++++++++++++++

    Maybe limit internet sales of this stuff? Would nut jobs be less likely to go down and buy this stuff from local gun dealers? Would they think they might get caught, or could be identified? Or maybe they just wouldn’t want to look a person in the eye as they purchased these guns?

    fk, I don’t know.

    Maybe psychological testing requirements?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
    ————————
    Then why in the fk doesnt this schit happen in Europe and Asia where there’s tight gun control?

  • TexRaider

    prayers to all thoes in the shooting. didn’t know anything till I read it on goggle.
    I do hope it stops.

  • Dakota

    new post

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
    ————————
    Then why in the fk doesnt this schit happen in Europe and Asia where there’s tight gun control?
    ——

    Maybe there’s just not many pansies out there who can’t deal with minor social issues. These guys out doing these stunts are all punks who can’t deal with a little adversity in their lives.

  • CVRaider

    I watched a show last night called panic 911, crazy show. Some guy had two handguns and was walking down his neighborhood and killed bunch of innocent people. A ton of calls to 911 came in. 11 minutes later the thirst officer arrives and blasts this s.o.b …… while watching this I’m wondering why somebody in this neighborhood didn’t come outside with a rifle and this nut. I’ve owned guns for years, know to use them and wouldn’t cal 911 first. If every person in that neighborhood had a gun, a lot fewer people would have died.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Greg Papa said Hue Jackson was the real coach in 2010 which is why he had the job in 2011.

    Cable is a good motivator tho. He is not a HC

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Hate mongering rural hate radio, that repubs listen too all day about black helicopters and other dumbschit.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Vic Tafur‏@VicTafur

    Raiders game Sunday is sold out, will be on local TV

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Its horrible what happened today.. freaking horrible. But dang the soap box gets worn the f out on days like this.

    Everyone wants change.. but ppl forget about it in a week. Thats the sad state we live in. Look at that theatre shootin… mall on monday. Everyone had forgot.

    Zero change

  • DKnight007

    119.The_Judge37 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.

    In Mexico, no pistols larger than a .380, 38 super, 38 special (Revolvers) are allowed. Doesn’t make them any less safer when it comes to gun violence.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Making it harder for nut jobs and or any other person to purchase a gun legally is needed in this country.

    Plain and simple.

    Nothing wrong with making it harder to buy a gun…legally that is.

  • DKnight007

    129.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    Vic Tafur‏@VicTafur

    Raiders game Sunday is sold out, will be on local TV

    ^^^^^^^^
    How in the heck did they sell out that Toilet Bowl game tomorrow?

    At least I can actually watch the battle for the #1 pick tomorrow and see if Pryor actually plays. LOL

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)

    ★★★★★★★
    Hi Cork! You know I often ask myself why is there not a Contract quote that say -we( Raiders) will make contract payments according to games played in the (season).
    Full season payments of player contracts will be void if player doesn’t comform to contracts.
    Therefore Richard Seymore plays 6 games -we pay him for 6
    Games!

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Just putting all my thoughts into one post here….

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    All the people responding to gun control political-media driven talk are not seeing the forest from the trees, just letting media/politics do the thinking for themselves.

    quote
    In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes.

    In 2010 8,775 people were killed by firearm of which only 358 were by rifles (ar-15) for example.

    But the gun control morons in this country talk about banning rifles. A tragedy occurred today, but lets not act like rifles are the problem. I dont hear anybody talk about tougher alcohol laws
    /quote

    quote
    Does anyone see the irony and complete lack of logic of laws against guns?

    There are laws against killing people and yet the person who kills breaks that law without remorse. The law didn’t stop the criminal.

    There is a HUGE moral and cultural stigma against attacking and murdering children even among criminals. Didn’t stop today’s NUT job.

    What LAW was going to prevent this attack today? This nut job couldn’t buy a gun off the black market? That’s laughable.

    How are the laws against drugs working out for us? Brink of bankrupcy if you haven’t been paying attention.

    The MASSIVE police state required to enable gun control is NOT the country I want to live in.
    /quote

    quote
    I do feel we’ve become too coddled as a society. Now the slightest thing hurts and offends people and they don’t know how to deal with it. Most of the people who go on these crazy rampages, you can tell they haven’t been through much adversity and can’t cope.
    /quote

    So much naivety and BS going to be posted in this thread by a lot of shallow thinking people (letting media/politics do their thinking) instead of researching and applying logic, and by people who will just parrot catchphrase-like generalizations.

    I’m not going to hang around responding to it all. It’s depressing to realize the degree people have become reactionary knee-jerkers.

    Let it be that what I have stated in my previous few posts can be used as a reply to the thousand shallow postings that this thread will attract.

    quote
    20 little kids GG, 20 little kids….
    Just think on the reality of that for a minute & I dare you not to feel the need to throw up.
    /quote

    You’re splintering off on a different tangent. You’re focusing on the sadness of the death of 20 children, which has nothing to do with gun control laws. As I explained previously, if a crazy person wants to kill 20 kids via gun violence, in a hypothetical society with tough gun laws, they can still freely purchase guns. Laws do not stop crimes. Laws against particular devices do not stop crimes using those particular devices.

    It’s incidental who got killed here. Kids, women, men…it’s irrelevant to the topic of “gun control.”

    quote
    That’s a cop out, GG. If you want to make the “legal killer” comparison you need to acknowledge that alcohol can be used safely, even if it frequently abused. Guns have one function.
    /quote

    Guns can and have been used safely in society. In America, using those stats I posted….there were 8,000 deaths by guns, and only 350 by high-powered rifles. There are tens of millions of guns and high-powered rifles in legal and non-legal ownership in the USA. That means guns were safely being used 99% of the time, by 99% of the people in gun ownership.

    Repeat…it’s against the law to drink and drive. There were still 10,000 deaths in the USA in 2010 by drink-driving.

    Gun control laws are a red-herring BS cop-out political/media agenda.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

  • raiderlization

    You forget Cable got rid of himself! so quick to forget the legal troubles he had at his departure bringing women to games away games at that then having trouble with them. Wow! Go Cable!