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By Steve Corkran
Friday, December 14th, 2012 at 1:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

General manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen are intent upon taking an extensive look at every player on the 53-man roster, especially those that haven’t received much playing the first 13 games.
The process is well underway now that the Raiders are out of playoff contention. Just don’t expect to see players such as quarterback Terrelle Pryor, offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom and defensive end Jack Crawford from the outset Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
“I don’t see any real major changeups as far as the starting lineup’s concerned, but we do want to see some of these guys get in some game action,” Allen said. “How much that is, I don’t know exactly right now. A lot of that, the game will dictate what that is.”
McKenzie said he particularly wants to see what Pryor can do in a regular-season game.
“That’s the only way I can evaluate him, is to play him,” McKenzie said Nov. 30. “Now, when he plays, how much he plays, that will be a charge to the coaching staff but, yes. … This is a good time to try to figure out what works best for him.”
The Raiders selected Pryor in the third round of the NFL supplemental draft in 2011. He has played one snap in 29 regular-season games in his NFL career.
Allen
Allen said a package of plays designed for Pryor to run was installed a few weeks ago. The proper situation hasn’t presented itself for Pryor to run those plays. It’s also possible that backup Matt Leinart will play before Pryor gets his chance, Allen added.
“The biggest thing is to start getting him into the game a little bit and let him see a little game action,” Allen said of Pryor. “I’m not ready to say that he’d be a starter.”
Pryor said he didn’t receive many reps during practice this week. Just the same, he is anticipating playing.
“I know I’ll be a tiny bit nervous,” Pryor said. “I haven’t played in awhile. Just pray through it and go out and do what I do. Progressions, no turnovers, have fun and smile. That’s it, at the end of the day. And Monday, learn, whether I did good or bad.”

– Tight ends Brandon Myers, Richard Gordon and David Ausberry were on equal footing during the offseason as the Raiders searched for a replacement for jettisoned starter Kevin Boss.
Myers quickly asserted himself as the heir apparent to Boss. Playing time for Ausberry and Gordon has dwindled as the season progressed. They played one snap each in Oakland’s most-recent game.
“We’ve had a chance to look at these guys a little bit,” Allen said. “We kind of know what we’ve got in these guys. They’re still in the lineup, and they’ll still be used pretty much the same way we’ve used them.”
That means a steady diet of special-teams play and very little playing time on offense.

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring) missed practice Friday, but there’s still a chance that he will play against the Chiefs, Allen said.
Seymour has missed the past five games with an injury he suffered Nov. 4 against the Buccaneers.
Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle, neck) returned to practice, and he is in the same boat as Seymour for Sunday. Allen said both will be evaluated before the game and a decision on their availability made at that time.

– The U.S. Marines will be at Sunday’s game to collect donations and accept new, unwrapped toys as part of their annual Toys for Tots program.
Also, running back Darren McFadden, fullback Marcel Reece, Myers and linebacker Miles Burris will sign autographs in exchange for a new, unwrapped toy valued at $20 or more at The Raider Image at Southland Mall in Hayward on Monday, from 6 p.m.-8.

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  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Why so much of this schit in this country? I think its the gun culture.

    More guns here than anywhere in the world.
    ================================

    Tolerance for violence

  • Dakota

    113.KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    What is it that makes a person get to the point that they think it right and just to execute little children because their lives turned out wrong, or someone looked at them funny?

    Something is wrong with this Nations morals, and lack of self control and complete self-centeredness.
    ————————-
    That too, Dakota. But people wern’t buying semi-automatic weapons with massive clips in the 50’s 60’s. And, I don’t believe guns were just as easy to get back then. I grew up in Oakland in the 60’s. Very few guns in the hood back then. People used to fistfight.

    +++++++++++++++

    Maybe limit internet sales of this stuff? Would nut jobs be less likely to go down and buy this stuff from local gun dealers? Would they think they might get caught, or could be identified? Or maybe they just wouldn’t want to look a person in the eye as they purchased these guns?

    I don’t know.

    Maybe psychological testing requirements?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Hate mongering rural hate radio, that repubs listen too all day about black helicopters and other dumbschit.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    There’s a tolerance for violence in this culture that is the root of this kind of idiocy. People think it’s funny or acceptable to shoot, maim, hurt and kill others. Fifteen years ago it was OK to beat your girlfriend. And when I mean this, what I mean is, it is in the sentences handed down or lack of prosecution for certain crimes.

    People blow others away, they get a voluntary manslaughter, serve 7 on 10 and they are out in 7 years for willfully fading someone. That’s ridiculous.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Tolerance for violence
    ——————–
    That too.

  • The_Judge37

    Man the entire 1st half of the article is all recycled material. THanks Cork

  • ottocrat

    They’re are 11 relevant games on Sunday, and we’re in the most irrelevant.

  • The_Judge37

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Tighter Gun control doesn’t solve the problem of crazy people or violent people. Timothy McViegh pulled off the biggest domestic attack with the exception of 9/11, neither used guns.
    ————————
    Then why in the fk doesnt this schit happen in Europe and Asia where there’s tight gun control?
    ——

    Maybe there’s just not many pansies out there who can’t deal with minor social issues. These guys out doing these stunts are all punks who can’t deal with a little adversity in their lives.

  • Dakota

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Hate mongering rural hate radio, that repubs listen too all day about black helicopters and other dumbschit.
    +++++++++++++++++

    So why does almost all of this stuff happen in urban areas?

  • The_Judge37

    ottocrat Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    They’re are 11 relevant games on Sunday, and we’re in the most irrelevant.
    ——

    Well ours in the only one that matters to me. Show me something

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Any mfkr can walk into a gun show and buy anything without question. 40% of guns in this country are unregistered.

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    Any mfkr can walk into a gun show and buy anything without question. 40% of guns in this country are unregistered.
    ——-

    Not here in Cali. But i can buy a burner on the streets for around $200-300. Ban guns here in CA and all it will do is jack up that burner price to around $400-600

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Dakota Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Hate mongering rural hate radio, that repubs listen too all day about black helicopters and other dumbschit.
    +++++++++++++++++

    So why does almost all of this stuff happen in urban areas?
    ———————–
    What urban areas? These guys are almost always white. As are the victims.

  • CVRaider

    I watched a show last night called panic 911, crazy show. Some guy had two handguns and was walking down his neighborhood and killed bunch of innocent people. A ton of calls to 911 came in. 11 minutes later the first officer arrives and blasts this s.o.b …… while watching this I’m wondering why somebody in this neighborhood didn’t come outside with a rifle and shoot this nut. I’ve owned guns for years, know to use them and wouldn’t cal 911 first. If every person in that neighborhood had a gun, a lot fewer people would have died.

    Koolkell, your misguided, and when zhit hits the fan you’ll be wishing you were packing,

  • poprox13

    ottocrat Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    They’re are 11 relevant games on Sunday, and we’re in the most irrelevant.
    __________________

    not irrelevant, this game has alot to do with who’s going to get the 1st pick in the draft!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Greg Papa said Hue Jackson was the real coach in 2010 which is why he had the job in 2011.

    Cable is a good motivator tho. He is not a HC

  • Dakota

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    Dakota Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Hate mongering rural hate radio, that repubs listen too all day about black helicopters and other dumbschit.
    +++++++++++++++++

    So why does almost all of this stuff happen in urban areas?
    ———————–
    What urban areas? These guys are almost always white. As are the victims.

    ++++++++++++++++

    I guess you translate urban to black, which is reasonable, but I just meant highly populated areas. You don’t hear about mass shootings at schools in small towns where people are listening to what you called “Hate mongering rural hate radio”.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    GG Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    100.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”

    ————————————

    Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Terrible isn’t it?

    Davis and McK need to get rid of these clowns and bring in a real HC like Gruden to turn it around!

    ++++++++++++++

    The problem is, you get a quote from Reggie, he backs Allen who backs Knapp/Tarver.

    Mark needs to listen to his heart, and fire the lot of them.

    I believe Mark will do it and hire Gruden to whatever capacity he asks for.

    ————————-

    Yep like I said.. only the raiders would get stuck with guys like DA/KNAPP

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Allen said with regards to Leinart or Pryor getting snaps Sunday “Depends on the circumstance”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also said what I have been saying for weeks now with regard to the ‘what do we have to lose’ mentality saying “this isn’t preseason.”

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien

    DA also echoed some of what Greg Knapp said about having a rough start in new system using the term “growing pains”

    ————————————

    Can you believe this guy is the raiders HC?? sigh pathetic. DA/ KNAPP are the perfect marriage. ONly the raiders would get stuck with these two.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Its horrible what happened today.. freaking horrible. But dang the soap box gets worn the f out on days like this.

    Everyone wants change.. but ppl forget about it in a week. Thats the sad state we live in. Look at that theatre shootin… mall on monday. Everyone had forgot.

    Zero change

  • The_Judge37

    17. I won’t claim to know Conneticut, but Newtown seems like a small, rural neighborhood. Same for the Movie shootings in Colorado. But this is just speculation on my part, don’t know those areas but from what i see and hear.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    You don’t hear about mass shootings at schools in small towns where people are listening to what you called “Hate mongering rural hate radio”.
    ———————
    Do you know where todays shooting occured?

  • The_Judge37

    What urban areas? These guys are almost always white. As are the victims.
    ——–

    I was tip toeing around that fact but it’s the truth. Kinda why i say it’s people with Coddled lifestyles who never have to deal with adversity. No too often you hear about someone from The Ghetto flipping out like this, while i do reckognize they kill alot of innocents among the gang violence. I don’t want to turn it into a Race thing, but there is a pattern here.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Then these azzholes want conceal carry to carry guns into bars, schools, church. Crazy.

  • zopi

    This sicko apparently killed his brother, then went after his mom, this is based directly in the heart of an American domestic violence epidemic, which like a virus it’s spread through a widely tolerable violent culture fed in every which way imaginable. The tragedy once again took 20 innocent kids and school staff who happened to get in the way, “collateral damage.”

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Its horrible what happened today.. freaking horrible. But dang the soap box gets worn the f out on days like this.

    Everyone wants change.. but ppl forget about it in a week. Thats the sad state we live in. Look at that theatre shootin… mall on monday. Everyone had forgot.

    Zero change

    All anyone can really do is protect their loved ones the best they can.. GOV / Local authorties cant really protect you cuz everything is always after the fact

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    Then these azzholes want conceal carry to carry guns into bars, schools, church. Crazy.
    ——–

    These mass shooters are pansies. You think they’d open up in a mall if they knew everyone was packing? It’s about picking on the weak for them. This kindergarten thing is a new low, but with children, he would’ve been just as unstoppable with a knife

  • inonewordraider

    they’ll play pryor depending on the circumstance? the circumstance is we’re out of the playoffs, it’s time to evaluate and develop the young players

  • Dakota

    22.KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    You don’t hear about mass shootings at schools in small towns where people are listening to what you called “Hate mongering rural hate radio”.
    ———————
    Do you know where todays shooting occured?

    +++++++++++++++

    I guess it depends on how you define small towns…..to me 30k people is not a small town lol.

  • The_Judge37

    inonewordraider Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    they’ll play pryor depending on the circumstance? the circumstance is we’re out of the playoffs, it’s time to evaluate and develop the young players
    ——–

    The most troublesome thing is that everyone on this staff is really affraid to admit error. THey’re concerned about their jobs and public opinion now than preparing this Football team. I’m sure a vote of confidence in their jobs would help them, but how could you if this is the result.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Yep these shooters are not looking for a gun fight with those that are skilled.

    They are just predator chumps looking to control the situation.

  • inonewordraider

    why not a thorough phsychological evaluation and background check before purchasing? hunting rifles fine, why semiautomatic handguns and assault rifles?

  • The_Judge37

    Dakota Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    22.KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    You don’t hear about mass shootings at schools in small towns where people are listening to what you called “Hate mongering rural hate radio”.
    ———————
    Do you know where todays shooting occured?

    +++++++++++++++

    I guess it depends on how you define small towns…..to me 30k people is not a small town lol.
    ——–

    Dude, 30k is tiny

  • inonewordraider

    The most troublesome thing is that everyone on this staff is really affraid to admit error. THey’re concerned about their jobs and public opinion now than preparing this Football team. I’m sure a vote of confidence in their jobs would help them, but how could you if this is the result.
    ______________
    EXACTLY they’re selfish and could give a schit about the future of the organization which an honorable employee should do. If Pryor doesn’t get enough run this game, Reggie needs to demand it or find someone who will play him

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Dakota, Sioux Falls is a small town out in the boonies. 30,000 is a small town when out out alone. Different in a metro area.

  • The_Judge37

    inonewordraider Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    why not a thorough phsychological evaluation and background check before purchasing? hunting rifles fine, why semiautomatic handguns and assault rifles?
    ——–

    Would anyone really feel better if a Bolt action rifle was used? Same large caliber rounds, same lethal damage. Second you use a hunting arm against a person it’s an assault weapon.

  • Dakota

    35.KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    Dakota, Sioux Falls is a small town out in the boonies. 30,000 is a small town when out out alone. Different in a metro area.

    ++++++++++++++

    I hear you.

  • inonewordraider

    Would anyone really feel better if a Bolt action rifle was used? Same large caliber rounds, same lethal damage. Second you use a hunting arm against a person it’s an assault weapon.
    _____________
    how many times has a hunting rifle been used during these school incidents? alot easier for patrons/authorites/security to take down a man with a hunting rifle

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Would anyone really feel better if a Bolt action rifle was used?
    ————————-
    Yeah, then I got a chance to jump the mfkr!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    According to JerryMac

    DHB, FORD, and DMOORE, will be on the trade block this offseason

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    group id #14891
    password aldavis

    last chance for bowl pick em contest

  • The_Judge37

    inonewordraider Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Would anyone really feel better if a Bolt action rifle was used? Same large caliber rounds, same lethal damage. Second you use a hunting arm against a person it’s an assault weapon.
    _____________
    how many times has a hunting rifle been used during these school incidents? alot easier for patrons/authorites/security to take down a man with a hunting rifle
    ——-

    1960′s sniper in Texas. Killed 13, wounded 32 with a bolt action hunting rifle. Columbine kids used a 5 round hunting Shotgun. Doesn’t make it any better. Ruger makes a Ranch 14 rifle that can take a 30 round mag. If if the hi cap mags are not out there, they can be made. Point is the problem is deeper than just gun control

  • romania

    you hit someone, you break your hand. pop pop pop from a distance is pretty easy.

  • lefty12

    If a bolt action rifle was used you can bet your a$$ 27 people wouldn’t have died.

  • The_Judge37

    Guns are just the easy target to a complex question. Definetly won’t solve much.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo said Thursday that the second-year quarterback has put in the requisite work to succeed.

    “It’s gone great. The kid hasn’t let up (since training camp) in terms of work ethic and those things,” DeFilippo said. “He’s progressing nicely.”

    DeFilippo said Pryor never showed frustration at being inactive for 11 games of the season and has worked diligently on his footwork to improve his passing accuracy.

    “There’s always room for improvement in any quarterback, but he’s making strides,” DeFilippo said.

    ——

    HELL YEAH!!!!! THAT IS THE BEST NEWS I HAVE HEARD ALL SEASON LONG!!!!

    I hope this young guy can make a few plays and force a controversy. i hope he can force a competition and win the job out right to start!!!

    Greg knapp had vick in atl so im sure people will compare and say they will not succeed just as knapp and vick ultimately didnt.

    I would disagree because vick and pryor are not comparable other than their blinding 4.4 speed.

    I vick entered the nfl with a much smoother throwing motion, pryor’s was a quirky 3/4 delivery, closer to bernie kosar. i felt coming out of college that unless he could prove that he could fix his delivery and make better decisions off the field he would have trouble at this level. I could see that his delivery was the main flaw in his game and severely hampered his accuracy at times.

    pryor has smoothed out his motion and it was evident in preseason. The coach says his accuracy has improved, backing up my observations. he has worked diligently to correct flaws, and this will separate him from guys like vince young who never addressed his throwing motion. I am greatly encouraged by this turn of events.

    OFF the field pryor has matured as a young man, and his profession is first in his life, this is also where he differs from vick. Things came easily to vick in college and in his early pro days. pryor almost lost his pro career before it started and has had to fight and claw for every scrap. he is hungry focused dedicated to his craft, and has grasped professionalism.

    because of these factors i think knapp has a chance to succeed with pryor ion a way he never did with vick, even though vick may have been a more pro ready product at during his first two years as a pro.

    I cant wait to see what he does when he gets his shot

  • The_Judge37

    lefty12 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    If a bolt action rifle was used you can bet your a$$ 27 people wouldn’t have died.
    ——-

    The nut was in an elemetary school. He would’ve been just as unstoppable with a large Knife.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    the events in connecticut were very traggic but not shocking in any way.

    amerikkka is drenched in a bloody history of child murders and gun violence.

  • Dakota

    44.lefty12 Says:
    December 14th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    If a bolt action rifle was used you can bet your a$$ 27 people wouldn’t have died.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Maybe go back to just having flintlocks, with unrifled barrels? You would have to ban bayonets though….

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Point is the problem is deeper than just gun control
    —————————-
    Gun violence is way down in Gun control countries.

    We have the highest violence and the most loose gun laws.

    Simple logic, my man.