Notes and quotes from Raiders-Chiefs game
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, December 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.
As it turned out, the importance of the 49ers-Patriots game Sunday night dictated double duty on my part. Therefore, I shifted from the Raiders game to the 49ers game right away, without having any time to sit in on coach Dennis Allen’s news conference or scour the locker room for notes and quotes.
For that, we turn to beat writer Jerry McDonald, who did double duty of his own in performing his regular duties, as well as holding down the blog and writing an additional story.
So, here’s a collection of notes complied by Jerry.
The much-anticipated 2012 debut of quarterback Terrelle Pryor drew cheers from a paid crowd of 51,446 at O.co Coliseum on Sunday as he trotted on to the field.
In less than two minutes, it was over.
It amounted to a three-and-out, not including a false start, and starter Carson Palmer returned and finished the game, a 15-0 win over the Kansas City Chiefs.
If the Raiders had plans to put Pryor in position to either run or pass, it never happened because they punted so quickly. After the false start, Pryor lined up behind center, handed off twice to Darren McFadden and threw incomplete intended for Darrius Heyward-Bey on third-and-7.
“We had it set at just one series,” Pryor said. “It’s just a steppingstone. I enjoyed the four plays, or whatever it was, but I was excited to get in there at least.”
Coach Dennis Allen will let game situations dictate how much time Pryor gets going forward.
“How much he plays, I don’t know the answer to that exactly, but we’ll see on a game-by-game basis,” Allen said.
Pryor said he’s fine with that plan.
“I’m a team player, and whatever they need from me I’m going to do so we can win,” Pryor said. “I love learning from (Palmer), and I wouldn’t trade it for anything else. When the time’s right, I’ll be ready.”
Pryor was on the field for exactly one snap last season — a play in which he was called for a false start — against Kansas City.
Sebastian Janikowski moved into second place on the NFL’s all-time list in field goals of 50 yards or more with two against the Chiefs. He’s tied with John Kasay with 42.
Janikowski’s miss from 51 yards was his third miss of the season, with the others coming from 61 and 64 yards.
A pigeon took up residence on the field for the pregame and virtually the entire first half, and somehow managed to avoid getting stepped on. At one point in the second quarter, right guard Mike Brisiel gave it a gentle nudge with his foot — and heard a chorus of boos from the stands.
“I’m at the line of scrimmage and that thing is in between the defensive end and the outside linebacker. I mean, that’s kind of deadly,” Brisiel said. “I didn’t kick it. I was trying to shoo it along, and then I get booed for it. Something was wrong with that thing; it was a little off, I think.”
The pigeon, which didn’t attempt to fly away, was scooped into a bucket by a member of the field crew at halftime and taken to parts unknown.
Cornerback Phillip Adams left in the second quarter with his second concussion in three games and was replaced by Brandian Ross, who played well and was cited afterward by Allen.
Cornerback Joselio Hanson intercepted a Brady Quinn pass in the second quarter to help set up a Raiders field goal.
Quinn credited crowd noise in the Black Hole at the south end of the Coliseum for resulting in a delay-of-game penalty when the Chiefs were deep in Raiders territory.
Rolando McClain, coming off a two-game suspension and demoted to second-string middle linebacker in the base defense, was inactive for the first time in his NFL career.
“I just felt like we wanted to go with some other guys and we’d have him inactive this week,” Allen said.
Kansas City’s 119 yards of total offense are the lowest total surrendered by the Raiders since San Diego gained 93 yards in the Raiders’ 6-0 win on Oct. 6, 1975. The Chiefs had minus-1 yard of total offense in the first quarter, the first time the Raiders had held a team to minus yardage in the opening quarter since 1992.
Shane Lechler’s first punt of the day was No. 1,000 for his NFL career.
Wide receiver Denarius Moore, who caught five passes for 46 yards, struggled to field punts.
Long-snapper Jon Condo was honored before the game with the Commitment to Excellence award, given to the player most worthy of excellence on and off the field as voted by his teammates.
The four sacks were a Raiders’ season high, with Philip Wheeler, Andre Carter, Desmond Bryant and Tommy Kelly getting one each.
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December 16th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
first time I can say 1st!
December 16th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Im upset with the lack of players for TP6….
Oh and Knapp has to go. settling for 6 FG’s, vs. the chiefs
December 16th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Here, have a cookie…
December 16th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
By the way I do not know how much better the Raiders Center has to get but what I do Know especially after watching tonights game he has to get better.
December 16th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Just how big a loss did we have today by winning that game? Think of it this way: had we lost today and continued to lose out the rest of the year, which is likely, we were guaranteed ONE of the following:
• The top rated QB in the nation
• The top rated O-lineman or offensive player in the country
• The top rated D-lineman or defensive player in the country
Had we played our back-ups we’d now know a lot more on what to expect from them in real playing time. We’d have a much better understanding of who to keep and who to dump.
In that DA decided, for his own reasons, not to play the back-ups, we now know nothing new about our back-ups; we lost our guaranteed drafting position; we learned that Knapp & his system are totally inept against the worst team in the NFL: & that, we won’t be rated as the #32 offense next week.
To my way of thinking, DA did what he did to benefit himself (save his job) & not the team. We already knew that Knapp & his system is worthless. IMO, the smart coach today was not DA but rather Romeo Crennel. His team will benefit in a much bigger fashion next year draft wise while we have downgraded our options. DA’s decisions today could cost us an additional year or two to catch up. Instead we get to say we skunked the #32 team in the NFL – BFD! We are not in the playoffs & won’t be for a number of more years. DA, I thought you were smarter than that. BTW, I will NOT be renewing my season tickets for next couple of years at a minimum. You future here does not look all that bright.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I also saw a lot of holding in the game tonight. I guess it was the good kind of holding. Play on!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Dennis allen is pathetic …
December 17th, 2012 at 12:27 am
After so many months of this crap, I’m just happy with a comfortable win. I know. I need serious therapy.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:28 am
At least I admit it. That’s the first step!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:30 am
As many clanks DHB had in this game, he deserves to be in a percussion band. Actually, he could BE the band.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Thanks for the great TP look see DA and CRAPPP.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:11 am
Even Jano was disgusted having to boot those FGs ,Goodson and #80 are the only players on offence happy,i think this game really showed the Knapp offence is ancient boring and predictable as we all knew
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Here is the latest 2013 NFL Draft order based on today’s results, excluding the New England Patriots/San Francisco 49ers matchup:
1. Kansas City Chiefs (2-12)
2. Jacksonville Jaguars (2-12)
3. Oakland Raiders (4-10)
4. Philadelphia Eagles (4-10)
5. Detroit Lions (4-10)
6. Tennessee Titans (4-9)
7. San Diego Chargers (5-9)
8. Cleveland Browns (5-9)
9. Buffalo Bills (5-9)
10. Carolina Panthers (5-9)
11. Arizona Cardinals (5-9)
12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-8)
13. Miami Dolphins (6-8)
14. New Orleans Saints (6-8)
15. New York Jets (6-7)
16. St. Louis Rams (6-7-1)
17. Pittsburgh Steelers (7-7)
18. Dallas Cowboys (8-6)
19. New York Giants (8-6)
20. Chicago Bears (8-6)
21. Minnesota Vikings (8-6)
22. Cincinnati Bengals (8-6)
23. Washington Redskins (to STL) (8-6)
24. Seattle Seahawks (9-5)
25. Indianapolis Colts (9-5)
26. Baltimore Ravens (9-5)
27. Green Bay Packers (10-4)
28. San Francisco 49ers (9-3-1)
29. Denver Broncos (11-3)
30. New England Patriots (10-3)
31. Houston Texans (12-2)
32. Atlanta Falcons (12-2)
Based on the current standings, the Bengals would hold the 22nd overall pick and the 35th-overall picks. If the Raiders lose-out, the highest pick the Bengals could have is the 35th-pick after last year’s lopsided trade that netted the the Raiders’s first-rounder in 2012 and second-rounder in 2013
December 17th, 2012 at 1:21 am
TP showing himself to be a far bigger man than Allen, by accepting his unfair lot under Allen, embracing the situation with a cheer on his face.
Don’t care what anyone thinks of Pryor at Ohio or early Raiders, he has changed so much as a person, much tougher and centered person.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:36 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0oqJcP_Z84
pigeon was there yesterday too sign him Reg
December 17th, 2012 at 1:55 am
Sandy Hook now back open for false flag possibility…
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The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
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December 17th, 2012 at 2:03 am
“You seem to think you got chicken-to-go you’re in luck.”
Gordon Lightfoot
December 17th, 2012 at 2:12 am
GG
“We gotta move those microwave ovens. Gotta buy those color TVs.”
Dire Straits.
Just relax and give the kids another pill.
December 17th, 2012 at 2:17 am
A very good read, article about a mom struggling with her young son’s mental illness…
http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html
December 17th, 2012 at 2:30 am
What game situations is that idiot coach talking about play tp.I guess all the Reggie lovers are talking super bowl again.
December 17th, 2012 at 3:09 am
Very odd that the two young men fathers were to testify against the Bankers.
The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
December 17th, 2012 at 3:49 am
If any of the Raider Coaches care about their jobs they will still be awake as they prepare for Carolina….
What are the odds one of them is awake?
December 17th, 2012 at 3:57 am
Posts I made in another site…
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ME:
Hypothetical.
The fathers, Peter Lanza and Robert Holmes, both testifying against.
They are warned not to persist otherwise the blood of innocent people on their hands.
They insist they will testify, because the truth needs to come out, these elites are destroying the country etc.
So before the trial, these two events occur….you were warned, you did not listen, if you continue there will be more unless you retract your testimony.
So Peter Lanza and Robert Holmes, so deeply saddened by the deaths of kids etc, are scared that should they continue more kids/etc will die.
What will Peter Lanza and Robert Holmes do? (ethics).
ANOTHER PERSON:
Well Peter Lanza says ‘you killed my son, you ****s … I am going to bury you’.
As I said, threatening ones family is different to actually murdering them, then hoping you will be too scared to testify.
So are we suggesting that the banks hired mercenaries to kill school children in an effort to silence someone that was testifying against them, and the mercenaries made a clean getaway unseen whilst planting the body of a witnesses dead son?
ME:
There’s an ethics issue still there tho. If he says ‘bury you’ he does it knowing they may well go and kill another 30 kids in another school. That’s not going to be an easy decision to make, or burden to bear, his heart already heavy, probably didn’t realize the depths of hardcore evil they can go if threatened.
Also, the shooter was fully masked and wearing armored vest. Do you seriously think that kid would walk up to the school wearing it all bar the mask and ask to be let in, recognized, then put the mask on. They’d see he was armed and armored and the doors stay locked all around the school.
Alternatively, he walks right up fully armored, armed and masked from the get go. No ones going to unlock the doors. Nor are they going to know who it is. It could be anyone.
They could’ve had a mercenary dressed up like that, forces his way in, kills everyone, then plant the already deceased body of Adam Lanza in the school wearing similar outfit. Lanza could’ve shot his mom and himself at his mom’s place, long before the shooting took place.
Don’t know, but investigation merited.
December 17th, 2012 at 4:05 am
GG Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 3:09 am
Very odd that the two young men fathers were to testify against the Bankers.
The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
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Would not doubt it at all. They are behind schedule with the gun ban laws, so they had to have these things go on, and financial crimes gives the legislature all the ammo they need to seriously consider NOT renewing the Federal Reserve Charter (which ends next year) – so something had to happen.
December 17th, 2012 at 4:17 am
A pigeon took up residence on the field for the pregame and virtually the entire first half, and somehow managed to avoid getting stepped on. At one point in the second quarter, right guard Mike Brisiel gave it a gentle nudge with his foot — and heard a chorus of boos from the stands.
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hilarious!!
December 17th, 2012 at 4:19 am
with just 182 passing yards yesterday, it’s gonna be impossible for Carson Palmer to break Gannon’s record
YAY!!
December 17th, 2012 at 4:53 am
#23…thanks for the response.
December 17th, 2012 at 4:56 am
GG Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 3:09 am
Very odd that the two young men fathers were to testify against the Bankers.
The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
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I believe it, but good luck educating the sheep in our country.
“They wouldn’t do that!”…How many times have I head that in regards to 9/11.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:12 am
DHB didn’t look too interested in running his route for TP.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:14 am
DHB = Captain Clank.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:19 am
DHB = Colonel Clank
Ok I’m getting delirious with the smell of victory.
Maybe next game for a real TP look see.
Delirious again…….
December 17th, 2012 at 5:20 am
I realize that my west coast Raider brethren have a major beef with the 49ers (much like we Pennsylvania Raider fans have a beef with the SteAlers), but seeing the d!ckweed Pats getting throttled in the 3rd quarter on their home turf last nite was SWEET!! Seeing them come back only to still lose was even SWEETER!!!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 5:20 am
GG Interesting stuff if true.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Oh yeah, the SteAlers losing in OT to the Cowboys was f-ing SWEET as well!!!! Here’s to the SteAlers not even making it to the post-season!!
December 17th, 2012 at 5:22 am
GE paid no taxes, shifted a bunch of workers from Wisconsin to China, and then our Prez gave their CEO Immelt an appointment to chairman of his economic council.
Cronism at it’s finest. GE owns NBC, which is in the tank for our buddy at the helm.
Morning rant.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:24 am
Good thing we have freedom of the press.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:25 am
Romania:
I’m with you on a longer tryout for TP! Maybe he did throw an incompletion, but at least the receiver he was throwing to was near or across the first down marker. CP seems to throw 3rd down passes to guys who arent even near the first down marker… WTF??
December 17th, 2012 at 5:25 am
DA must go!!! Even in winning we don’t look good! He’s a little spiteful twirt!!! I think we will finish 4-12, and that it will seal his fate!!!
We cannot believe in this fools-gold win, the chiefs have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Brady Quinn shouldnt even be in the NFL at all! This is not a return to respectabilty.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Who said this was a “return to respectability”?
It is a baby step, of beating a weakened division foe. Nothing more, nothing less.
But the players seemed happy and looked to be having fun. Lots of smiles on the sidelines, lots of hustle, lots of excitement on the last defensive goalline stop.
Say multiple players go up and give dap to DA as the clock was running out.
A much-needed first step in the right direction. What were people expecting, to win 60-0? We were only 3 point favorites.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 5:22 am
GE paid no taxes, shifted a bunch of workers from Wisconsin to China, and then our Prez gave their CEO Immelt an appointment to chairman of his economic council.
Cronism at it’s finest. GE owns NBC, which is in the tank for our buddy at the helm.
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Yeah, that kinda stuff would never happen if the neocons were in office.
lol
December 17th, 2012 at 5:51 am
The biggest problem I have with Knapp and why I think he should go is that he is so unimaginative and un creative. Teams always look like they know what play is coming and he doesnt try to mix it up. The zone stretch run was continuously stuffed but he still kept going to it over and over even when we were dominating with power runs. Dude has got to go-
December 17th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Yeah, that kinda stuff would never happen if the neocons were in office.
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It absolutely did happen, and people yelled outrage, rightfully so.
But with the new guy, you give us a collective “LOL”.
It’s not funny and you shouldn’t be laughing.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:57 am
D-Mac and Goodson got loose on quite a few zone runs.
That 3rd and 6 draw to McFadden caught KC off guard. So did that beautiful screen to Goodson lined up as a WR.
December 17th, 2012 at 5:59 am
McFadden is having his second best year in the NFL. Sad thought.
He has got to go. Fumbles, injuries, slipping constantly.
Upgrade is needed. Goodson makes him look expendable at times, and Goodson is dime a dozen NFL RB.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:04 am
41.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Yeah, that kinda stuff would never happen if the neocons were in office.
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It absolutely did happen, and people yelled outrage, rightfully so.
But with the new guy, you give us a collective “LOL”.
It’s not funny and you shouldn’t be laughing.
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Dude, you take shots at the Prez in here every chance you get. Stop playing moral high ground. You posted that as a slam to him and you know it.
My lol was meant for the irony of your comment, not for the situation.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Dime a dozen may not be fair for Goodson, let’s call it a quarter a dozen.
He is averaging almost 10 yards a touch this season. Hasn’t fumbled once. Plays great ST.
What a fleecing McKenzie did on Carolina with that trade.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Dude, you take shots at the Prez in here every chance you get.
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I did the same for W. I wanted Hillary in ‘08. I say repeatedly that Bill Clinton is the best president of this century (or last or whatever) and they should have just amended the constiution to let him hold office as long as he wanted.
I cut with both sides of the knife. Do you?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Can’t believe that for the last home game if the year they only put Pryor in for 3 plays. WTF is that? This team has been smeared to the field for six straight weeks and that’s what they give the fans?! A win to try and save face on an abysmal record.
Fvck you Allen you wuss, rat b@stard.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Pryor would have got more plays if he didn’t one-hop a guy from 15 feet away.
I can wait until next preseason to watch him play again.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:21 am
My notes and quotes from Raiders/Chiefs:
Gregg Krapp’s offense is virtually unwatchable.
Gragg Krapp’s play calling and adjustments are bottom-of-the-barrel horrific.
The repeated attempts to run wide using the ZBS ’stretch’ and pitches were utterly futile.
If it wasn’t so sad and pathetic, it would be almost comical.
Not just this game, mind you – the entire season.
An occasional reverse, or heaven forbid, an option pass might loosen things up a bit – but apparently, that’s not something Krapp knows how to coach, or something that he can conceive of.
Regarding the use of TP:
It’s inexcusable that TP was inactive virtually the entire season.
That’s entirely on Krapp and Tits.
Personally, I have severe doubts about TP throwing well enough to be a very successful NFL QB – but he is a ‘freak’ athlete and deserves a look.
Even if he can’t be a front-line QB this is a player that can undoubtedly bring something to the table and have some utility – that is, if you’ve got a staff with some imagination and vision.
Krapp is so fking lost, it’s not even funny.
Free Taiwan. Despite his inspired special teams play, Taiwan remains mired in Krapp’s doghouse. There’s got to be a way to utilize Tai’s jaw dropping speed. Just don’t expect it to happen in Oakland if Krapp and Tits stay on.
Smiling Tittyboy hasn’t been a COMPLETE failure.
Tits deserves credit for benching, deactivating and hopefully (soon) ridding the Raids of Slowlando GreenBeanie.
I can reluctantly accept Tits returning in 2013, but only if it’s without his butt-buddy Krapp.
If Krapp is back in 2013, I’m done with the Raids until Krapp is gone.
And I suspect much of the Nation feels the same way.
SCRAP THE KRAPP !
December 17th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Pryor would have got more plays if he didn’t one-hop a guy from 15 feet away.
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CP would have done much better on that 3rd and 7… He wouldve gotten the ball to the receiver, 3 yards short of the first down… IMO, all the QBs on the roster can go!! Trade Palmer to AZ or NYJ and get our 2nd rounder back next April… If he isnt the future, get the f-ing guy in there who is… Quit wasting our f-ing time!! Not like the last decade hasnt been a waste…
December 17th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Who said this was a “return to respectability”?
It is a baby step, of beating a weakened division foe. Nothing more, nothing less.
But the players seemed happy and looked to be having fun. Lots of smiles on the sidelines, lots of hustle, lots of excitement on the last defensive goalline stop.
Say multiple players go up and give dap to DA as the clock was running out.
A much-needed first step in the right direction. What were people expecting, to win 60-0? We were only 3 point favorites.
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Thats been the problem with us, 1 lousy win against the 2nd worst team in the NFL, then looking bad in beating that team. You act like we made the playoffs (which is what should have happened) and won the superbowl. When you want mediocrity thats what you get!!!
This coaching staff is 1 of the worst I have ever seen. I guess you expect us to take 2 more steps when they close out season against the chargers and the panthers. When they lose again–will you consider that positive steps?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:26 am
GG Says:
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
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You are a fkn retarded tool.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Dennis Allen is a pathetic self serving POS, who has noo business being a HC in the NFL. The guy has no vision, imagination or leadership ability.
The idiot failed to provide TP significant playing time even though the game was pretty much over by the 4th quarter. Trivial wins mean nothing as he blew the season months ago. Why not evaluate the young guys, specifically TP. It only wise to see what they have, either good or bad.
I appears the players have no respect for the guy or his pathetic assistants and I see why. Allen will NEVER be a decent HC. I really hope they fire that scrub as soon as the season ends. He doesn’t deserve a second season. He’s the worse coach in Raiders history.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Dime a dozen may not be fair for Goodson, let’s call it a quarter a dozen.
He is averaging almost 10 yards a touch this season. Hasn’t fumbled once. Plays great ST.
What a fleecing McKenzie did on Carolina with that trade.
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he has 200 yards rushing for the season. lets take a deep breathe before we use the word fleecing.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Talked to my buddy who sits behind the bench and said that the coach got in D-Mac’s fac eimmediatly after that failed 3rd and 1 run that caused that little dustup.
After Darren got up and left, all the players stayed with the coach and kept working. Not one player went to Darren to talk to him.
Eventually he cooled off and sat down, and gave the coach a pat on the rear.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
I guess you expect us to take 2 more steps when they close out season against the chargers and the panthers.
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Yes I do.
As do the players, the staff, the front office and ownership.
Do they all have it wrong and you got it right?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Derek Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Dennis Allen is a pathetic self serving POS, who has noo business being a HC in the NFL. The guy has no vision, imagination or leadership ability.
The idiot failed to provide TP significant playing time even though the game was pretty much over by the 4th quarter. Trivial wins mean nothing as he blew the season months ago. Why not evaluate the young guys, specifically TP. It only wise to see what they have, either good or bad.
I appears the players have no respect for the guy or his pathetic assistants and I see why. Allen will NEVER be a decent HC. I really hope they fire that scrub as soon as the season ends. He doesn’t deserve a second season. He’s the worse coach in Raiders history.
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I second post #53!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
The pigeon, which didn’t attempt to fly away, was scooped into a bucket by a member of the field crew at halftime and taken to parts unknown.
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Pretty sad game when this is talked about.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
How did we look “Bad” beating the Chiefs?
We nearly set multiple single game franchise records defensively. Granted the Chiefs stink, but so do many of the teams we have played over the years, and we never held them without a first down for 40 minutes or to 10 yards rushing.
Offensively, sure, a little more to be desired. Catching a punt would have been nice too.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
I guess you expect us to take 2 more steps when they close out season against the chargers and the panthers.
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Yes I do.
As do the players, the staff, the front office and ownership.
Do they all have it wrong and you got it right?
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What you been watchin??
Because Obviously we don’t got it right!
You better face facts take your head out of the ground, and realize this CLOWN GOTTA GO!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
The “Package” of plays they had for TP were such a joke!
That’s it? what was the point.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Who was the coach DMAC was pissed at ?
Wylie ?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Question: How do the Raiders go undefeated?
Answer: Play the Cheifs 16 times.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
You better face facts take your head out of the ground, and realize this CLOWN GOTTA GO!!!
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I have no argument whether he stays or is canned.
But much like 2009, I want the team to finish strong and go into the next season with some momentum.
I don’t remember people complaining that year when we beat Pittsburgh and Denver at the end of the year.
Not sure what is with this we have to lose mentality in here, but whatever, carry on with it if you must.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Briesel was told to by the coaching staff to get false start to sabotage TP’s debut lol.
Allen wants no part of Al’s project QB. It’s pretty clear the KC game was perhaps the best time to see what TP could/couldn’t do.
Out with the old in with the new.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
How did we look “Bad” beating the Chiefs?
We nearly set multiple single game franchise records defensively. Granted the Chiefs stink, but so do many of the teams we have played over the years, and we never held them without a first down for 40 minutes or to 10 yards rushing.
Offensively, sure, a little more to be desired. Catching a punt would have been nice too.
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Pidgeons were the highlight of the game!!! This staff looks bad even with a win!!!
Brady Quinn is 1 of the worst QB’s in the NFL…in fact if anything he should be looking for a career in hollywood,(acting like he a NFL-QB)he should get the oscar for best actor!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Who was the coach DMAC was pissed at ?
Wylie ?
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Not sure, whoever we saw him yelling at on TV.
I think it was Pollack. Wasn’t Skipper and wasn’t Knapp, so not sure who else would be greeting offensive players with fire as they approached the sidelines.
He just told me that as soon as Darren sat down, dude got about 4 inches from his face and was screaming at him.
Then the fans started heckling McFadden.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
You better face facts take your head out of the ground, and realize this CLOWN GOTTA GO!!!
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I have no argument whether he stays or is canned.
But much like 2009, I want the team to finish strong and go into the next season with some momentum.
I don’t remember people complaining that year when we beat Pittsburgh and Denver at the end of the year.
Not sure what is with this we have to lose mentality in here, but whatever, carry on with it if you must.
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I thought we beat Hou and TB at the end of the year?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Anyone notice how much better our defense is without McLain?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
You better face facts take your head out of the ground, and realize this CLOWN GOTTA GO!!!
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I have no argument whether he stays or is canned.
But much like 2009, I want the team to finish strong and go into the next season with some momentum.
I don’t remember people complaining that year when we beat Pittsburgh and Denver at the end of the year.
Not sure what is with this we have to lose mentality in here, but whatever, carry on with it if you must.
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Because this staff, is worst than that staff, thats why.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
JFB, glad you’re back and OK.
It’s nice to be able to remind you that Slo sucks (out of the NFL by 2014) and that Krapp is a useless POS that’s got to go.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
I thought we beat Hou and TB at the end of the year?
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That was 2008.
Jamarcus drank away that momentum.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:42 am
The regression of DHB and DMO is unfortunate.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
I thought we beat Hou and TB at the end of the year?
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That was 2008.
Jamarcus drank away that momentum.
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that’s right
December 17th, 2012 at 6:43 am
DHB and Moore were chickening out on the field.
Making business decisions….
December 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
JFB, glad you’re back and OK.
It’s nice to be able to remind you that Slo sucks (out of the NFL by 2014) and that Krapp is a useless POS that’s got to go.
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Slo stinks, but Gaither played all game without a tackle. Maybe the scheme isn’t MLB friendly (LOL..just kidding).
I’m fine man, but the tailgate and game was an epic fail on our end. Near fights, buddies baby-momma corruptng my wife, bad news.
I was hoping to see Hwnrdr in here this morning. I called him and B around 3:30 and got no answer but started walking there way, then got called back as my buddy was being arrested, blah blah blah.
Epic, epic fail. Then we went to go watch Knapp time Titty ruin the night even more!!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JFB, glad to see you back!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:45 am
bring back the Cable guy 2013!
Bringing back Zach Miller with him too for 2 tightend sets with Meyers ala Gronk and Hernandez.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
14 games , 1 TD in first quarter for entire season
December 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
It was kind of a mad house Thursday…B and I called also, then after that my phone was in my pocket
I hope everything worked out in the end!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
JFB, glad you’re back and OK.
It’s nice to be able to remind you that Slo sucks (out of the NFL by 2014) and that Krapp is a useless POS that’s got to go.
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Slo stinks, but Gaither played all game without a tackle. Maybe the scheme isn’t MLB friendly (LOL..just kidding).
I’m fine man, but the tailgate and game was an epic fail on our end. Near fights, buddies baby-momma corruptng my wife, bad news.
I was hoping to see Hwnrdr in here this morning. I called him and B around 3:30 and got no answer but started walking there way, then got called back as my buddy was being arrested, blah blah blah.
Epic, epic fail. Then we went to go watch Knapp time Titty ruin the night even more!!!!
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What the hell happened?
December 17th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Hwnrdr!!!!!
Damn, what a disaster that tailgate was, lol.
I called you around 3:30, after you texted me and B called me, and started walking your way, but had to go back and deal with more drama.
Next time.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:26 am
GG Says:
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
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You are a fkn retarded tool.
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And there it is, the brainwashed American.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Nycraider Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
14 games , 1 TD in first quarter for entire season
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Now c’mon, we got to the goal line one time against the Chiefs.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Not sure, whoever we saw him yelling at on TV.
I think it was Pollack. Wasn’t Skipper and wasn’t Knapp, so not sure who else would be greeting offensive players with fire as they approached the sidelines.
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Looked like a big white guy with a shaved head.
I think DMAC wasn’t happy with whatever critque he heard and said a few words and walked away.
I might be the only one, but I still like DMAC and think if utilized correctly he can be outstanding.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am
DA will cost Davis and the Raiders alot of money if he returns next season. If Allen remains, the team has no hope for a decent season next year. There will be no sellouts and Davis will be regulated to buying tickets to avoid the shame of the team drawing 25-35K per game
December 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Kirk Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Anyone notice how much better our defense is without McLain?
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I’m not defending McClain, but we got push from Bryant & freaking Andre Carter yesterday, plus McClain’s replacement laid a goose egg today. I’m not gonna be sorry to see him go but Burris has has looked like crap too.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
What the hell happened?
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From the top??
OK, so apparently some of my friends haven’t grown up much, as they thought it was really cool to have the loudest stereo in the parking lot. Cool if you are playing some back and black, not so much with a bunch of ghetto azz music. Neighbor tailgaters didn’t appreciate it much, and one of my friends got in fight later and was arrrested.
Buddy brought his baby-momma, who everyone hates, and she preceded to “Gasol” me by telling my wife every worse story she could think of me. Almost had to punch my friend over it. Wife almost punched me over it.
Tried to just leave and go see some Semi’s, and that’s when my friend got arrested and had to go back. In hindsights, should have just let them be.
Your 2012 Oakland Raiders!!!! Feel the excitement!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Not sure, whoever we saw him yelling at on TV.
I think it was Pollack. Wasn’t Skipper and wasn’t Knapp, so not sure who else would be greeting offensive players with fire as they approached the sidelines.
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Looked like a big white guy with a shaved head.
I think DMAC wasn’t happy with whatever critque he heard and said a few words and walked away.
I might be the only one, but I still like DMAC and think if utilized correctly he can be outstanding.
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I agree, Al told Hue believe in players not plays…Krapp is the opposite & his plays suck.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Hwnrdr!!!!!
Damn, what a disaster that tailgate was, lol.
I called you around 3:30, after you texted me and B called me, and started walking your way, but had to go back and deal with more drama.
Next time.
No worries man…after that game we were all wondering if you were ok because you were MIA on here. Just glad you’re ok, next time for sure!
December 17th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:42 am
The regression of DHB and DMO is unfortunate.
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Much like our defense when we canned Marshall for Bresnahan.
December 17th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Vegas, You may be surprised to hear this but I don’t miss alcohol at all because of memories such as your Oakland trip except mine wound up with me in jail or passed out at the wrong place
December 17th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
What the hell happened?
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From the top??
OK, so apparently some of my friends haven’t grown up much, as they thought it was really cool to have the loudest stereo in the parking lot. Cool if you are playing some back and black, not so much with a bunch of ghetto azz music. Neighbor tailgaters didn’t appreciate it much, and one of my friends got in fight later and was arrrested.
Buddy brought his baby-momma, who everyone hates, and she preceded to “Gasol” me by telling my wife every worse story she could think of me. Almost had to punch my friend over it. Wife almost punched me over it.
Tried to just leave and go see some Semi’s, and that’s when my friend got arrested and had to go back. In hindsights, should have just let them be.
Your 2012 Oakland Raiders!!!! Feel the excitement!!!
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Sucks when you only get to go to so many live games a year and you have to deal with Bullsh$t instead of just enjoying your day.
When I went to the Buf/Oak game last year the fans there were total dickheads throwing beer bottles at us amongst other things do take away from our experience.
Life of a Raider fan lol
December 17th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Without Romack, the center seemed really solid. The Chiefs do have a stud running back and he got nothing except a long run called back from an obvious hold that sprung him.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:01 am
The run defense may be one of few improvements this year
December 17th, 2012 at 7:02 am
#85: I like DMac. DMac is the victim of piss poor coaching. They change the scheme he thrived in. Then the abuse him by putting 60-70% of the offense on his back until he became frustrated and broke down. The moronic coached used him like a Mercedes SL on a 4-wheel drive course. The unimaginative coaching staff have no clue what to do with some of the freak athletes on the team. DMac, Reece, TP, Twain Jones, Ausberry or even DHB
December 17th, 2012 at 7:03 am
If we win against the Panthers next week, that’s really gonna mess up our draft position. Much worse than this week’s win. We badly need a top 5 pick so we can trade down and get some picks. Winning against the Panthers could put us out of the top 10. Brilliant DA. Really.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Plunketthead Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:01 am
The run defense may be one of few improvements this year
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Doug Martin
Reggie Bush
Knowshon Moreno
N.O. running backs
law firm
T Rich
Didn’t these guys have good games against us?
December 17th, 2012 at 7:07 am
ChrisinNC Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:03 am
If we win against the Panthers next week, that’s really gonna mess up our draft position. Much worse than this week’s win. We badly need a top 5 pick so we can trade down and get some picks. Winning against the Panthers could put us out of the top 10. Brilliant DA. Really.
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No need to fear we will not beat the Panthers, or the Chargers. We are on course to get a better coaching staff, and keep our position for picks.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Yesterday’s game was so boring that it was unfortunate that the only big excitement was watching a Chiefs fan get kicked out…he was waving his hat around all game long, then finally in the 4th qtr, some fan starting flicking his beer bottle towards him, but it was also hitting everyone in its path. The cops came to talk to the Chiefs fan, who was obvioulsy drunk as heck, then some Raider fan got mad at the cop because he got splashed with the other guys beer and pushed the cop. Both of them were escorted out…
yup, life of a Raider fan!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Don’t see a win happening against the Panthers. QB way too mobile. If we do well against him, at least it will show some kind of discipline on D. Would be fun to see TP against their freak.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Plunketthead Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:01 am
The run defense may be one of few improvements this year
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Doug Martin
Reggie Bush
Knowshon Moreno
N.O. running backs
law firm
T Rich
Didn’t these guys have good games against us?
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And please don’t try to justify that. Minus Doug Martin, those guys are laughably bad. Any remotely competent defense reminds them who they are.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:09 am
No worries man…after that game we were all wondering if you were ok because you were MIA on here. Just glad you’re ok, next time for sure!
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Had to amend things with wifey the rest of the vaca, and then went to DC and switched out laptops for the week, hence the MIA.
I knew around 2pm when I was with the fam, that I should just duck over your tailgate from there, but checked in at my falling apart at the seams tailgate party first.
Bad move.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:12 am
LOL, no worries JFB. Take care of you and your wife first! Friday and Saturday I had to cater to my wife and get her whatever she wanted because I was at the game yesterday and it was our anniversary! I guess everything was good because she let me go and even got up with me to make salsa for me to bring to the tailgate!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:14 am
ChrisinNC Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:03 am
If we win against the Panthers next week, that’s really gonna mess up our draft position. Much worse than this week’s win. We badly need a top 5 pick so we can trade down and get some picks. Winning against the Panthers could put us out of the top 10. Brilliant DA. Really.
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Don’t worry, we are Carolina’s last home game and they will take it to us.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Yeah, after what Carolina did the last couple weeks I do doubt it…however, and I know it was on the road but didn’t KC beat them a couple weekes ago when their linebacker killed himself?
December 17th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Plunk,
I say swear off baby momma’s.
That fkn c_nt tried to sabotage everything from minute 1.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Stupid win from stupid coaches.. we are the dumbest team in america
December 17th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Anyways I got to jet.
Glad the Raiders won. Game means nothing now, may mean something later, we shall see.
Sure it might move us down a few spots in the draft, and we can say we could have had Player X, Y or Z I am sure, but hindsight is always 20/20 with those things.
Win football games. That’s the only way I know how a football team improves.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Oh….And nobody is trading up in this draft, so spare me the it will cost us trade down potential to win some games.
A bunch of B+ players in the draft at best.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Alright guys, Are you ready for this????
Wait for it…Wait for it…
Kirk Cousins your 2013 Oakland Raiders starting QB! BAM!
Carson dealt to Arizona for a 3rd round pick.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Why Kirk Cousins? I don’t think Shanarat will give him up to us…then again…
December 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
You dont get better because you win. You win because you got better. And this win was fùcking retarded
December 17th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Marks hair Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
You dont get better because you win. You win because you got better. And this win was fùcking retarded
Well, Mark…in all fairness, I don’t think there would have been any possibility of KC getting that win! They are just awful! And it would have look really bad if it looked like we just laid down!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Why Kirk Cousins? I don’t think Shanarat will give him up to us…then again…
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Shreg could have just took him.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Why Kirk Cousins? I don’t think Shanarat will give him up to us…then again…
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Someone to build around who is young and can grow with the team.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Why Kirk Cousins? I don’t think Shanarat will give him up to us…then again…
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Someone to build around who is young and can grow with the team.
True. But I would be surprised if Cousins comes our way!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/12/17/attention-shifting-to-bears-gm-emery
“Emery had to agree to work with Smith for a season before the Bears hired the GM, but the handcuffs are about to be removed and it won’t be much longer until Emery makes a major statement about his vision for the organization.”
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So Lovie Smith may be available huh? Interesting that Emery took the job & he agreed to leave Lovie in place. I got a feeling Bears fans might wanna be careful what they wish for.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Look bad… good god. Being perpetual losers looks bad . Evaluating your talent and tanking a few games looks smart.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:38 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Why Kirk Cousins? I don’t think Shanarat will give him up to us…then again…
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Someone to build around who is young and can grow with the team.
True. But I would be surprised if Cousins comes our way!
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Honestly I doubt it happens but not out of the realm of possibilty. I think shannarat would deal him but ask for too much in return.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:38 am
• “One of the problems I see in Arizona — they ran out a lot of their best evaluators and put a lot of ‘yes’ men in place so no one would argue with them. The problem in a lot of places — leadership is too insecure to accept being challenged. All the scouts that I know that are worth their salt have conviction — they are not afraid to speak their mind. They are not trying to figure out what side of the room to side with — they have their own opinions. A lot of those guys are on the street now. It’s the sad state of the times and a result of the league getting younger and more insecure.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/12/16/insider-willis-is-lacking-passion-in-his-play
Too insecure to be challenged…sounds like our staff.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Im almost as mad as i was back in september. Worst coaches ever.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Marks hair Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Look bad… good god. Being perpetual losers looks bad . Evaluating your talent and tanking a few games looks smart.
I get what you’re saying Mark, but I don’t think any team tanks to get number one…remember, Indy came really close to giving that up last year!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
It is a sad state of affairs when some posters on this forum are rooting for the Raiders to lose to the Chiefs. What a crock of S**t. I am not interested in winning a number one draft pick in exchange for a loss to the hated Chiefs. A win is a win and when it is against KC then I am happy x 2.
Go Raiders!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I posted a couple days ago my four team parlay card from Mont bleu,..so as you all know I won it,…again,..that makes 6 parlay cards I have won this year,…60 dollars a card, 13-1 odds,…word.
I had…
Raiders -2.5
Niners +5.5
Dallas + 1.5
Broncos + 2.5
December 17th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Figures that Brisel can’t even keep a pigeon out of his backfield.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
“Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp has done so much for my offense, he’s been a huge help”
- Sebastian Janakowski
December 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
“Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp has done so much for my offense, he’s been a huge help”
- Sebastian Janakowski
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Always appreciate SeaBass’s sense of humor!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Cp3 played with the flu.. still decided not to evaluate tp… dumb
December 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
LondonAl Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
It is a sad state of affairs when some posters on this forum are rooting for the Raiders to lose to the Chiefs. What a crock of S**t. I am not interested in winning a number one draft pick in exchange for a loss to the hated Chiefs. A win is a win and when it is against KC then I am happy x 2.
Go Raiders!
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I agree that I wanted a beat down of the Chiefs and not draft position.
But 5 FG’s against the worst team in the League is not really something to be too happy about.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Pryor sucks, shouldnt have even been activated,..hes not Newton, Kkppapppernnnipkaapnick either,..hes not a qb and not a Raider in two weeks. Move on from that crap, ya feel me Priest?
December 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Indy did tank. They made sure not to sign a real qb and made sure theyd have penty of cap space to build around luck..
December 17th, 2012 at 7:55 am
The_Judge37 Says:
Figures that Brisel can’t even keep a pigeon out of his backfield.
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Now that’s funny!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:55 am
It’s pretty dead in here. Everyone must’ve been at yesterday’s after party for Tommy Kelly’s 1st sack of the season.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:55 am
London
Absolutely correct. A win is huge for the morale of the team and you always play to win.
Those that have expressed issues with the win relative to draft position could not have ever played a sport at a competitive level in their lives.
That by the way is how the Raiders used to win many of their games back in the 60’s and 70’s.
Control both lines and keep the ball away from the other team.
Peyton and Brady and Eli etc. are not as dangerous that way.
I recognize this was against the Chefs and I still believe we need a heavy line of scrimmage focus in the next two drafts. I assure you that if we build the lines in the draft we will be doing this same thing to the Broncos, Ravens and Packers in two seasons.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
88.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
What the hell happened?
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From the top??
OK, so apparently some of my friends haven’t grown up much, as they thought it was really cool to have the loudest stereo in the parking lot. Cool if you are playing some back and black, not so much with a bunch of ghetto azz music. Neighbor tailgaters didn’t appreciate it much, and one of my friends got in fight later and was arrrested.
Buddy brought his baby-momma, who everyone hates, and she preceded to “Gasol” me by telling my wife every worse story she could think of me. Almost had to punch my friend over it. Wife almost punched me over it.
Tried to just leave and go see some Semi’s, and that’s when my friend got arrested and had to go back. In hindsights, should have just let them be.
Your 2012 Oakland Raiders!!!! Feel the excitement!!!
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I think we need a fuller picture of what happened. What stories did your friend’s baby-momma tell your wife? Be specific now.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Whatever fan wanted us to lose for draft reasons is a born loser, enjoys losing, will be a loser forever. We swept our most bitter rival this year, swept,..doesnt matter the records,..I saw some of the Hunt family on the field pregame,..as you all know I was on the field pregame also,..let me tell you, those Hunts gave a pregame speech to the players informing them how important a game this was…it was a huge win. You draft punks are embarrassing.
December 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
129.Marks hair Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Cp3 played with the flu.. still decided not to evaluate tp… dumb
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At least the Lakers are getting better….oh never mind….even I don’t believe that. 8(
December 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
That pidgeon thing was funny! The girls in front of me was yelling, watch out for the bird!
December 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
So short sighted.. no forward thinking.. no leaders in the building.. sad
December 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Yo Hawaiin bro,..see Brien yesterday?…he was at our tailgate most the day, then lost him,..lots of jello shots.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Chefs ran the ball 10 times while playing the backup qb.. thats how you secure the top pick.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Greg Knapp called more plays for the pigeon than he did for DHB.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Marks hair Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Chefs ran the ball 10 times while playing the backup qb.. thats how you secure the top pick.
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Well in their defense, they had to abandon the run once Seabass kicked his first FG.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
So short sighted… glad the beer tased better for one whole day.. soo glad the moral is higher for the shìt players that we’ll be firing in a month.. way to go geniuses..
December 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
You’re in the red zone 5 times and you can’t score a TD? Against KC?
Knapp is an idiot.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:11 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Marks hair Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Chefs ran the ball 10 times while playing the backup qb.. thats how you secure the top pick.
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Well in their defense, they had to abandon the run once Seabass kicked his first FG.
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LOL!
December 17th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Krapp finally decides not to pass 70% of the time… Great timing fùckface
December 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
This staff already knows all they want to know about Pryor. He was drafted by Al Davis, therefor he’s apparently the reason they are 4-10.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:23 am
This staff already knows all they want to know about Pryor. He was drafted by Al Davis, therefor he’s apparently the reason they are 4-10.
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This staff already knows that they are cleaning house on the entire team… Like I said above, all the QBs on the roster can GTF out! DA saying that Palmer is the future is BS! He isnt ANYBODY’s future, quit wasting the fans f-ing time! I know the purging of players cant happen all at once, but damnit quit lying about what REALLY is going to happen. The staff isnt keeping Pryor, and if they had their way, Palmer wouldnt be here this year either! For all DA knows, HE might not be the future either!
December 17th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I agree this Franchise needs to clean house on this roster, but it also needs a fresh start from these coaches.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
If they somehow know that tp isnt going to develope into a qb… then change his position.. wtf dont they understand?
December 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
Whatever fan wanted us to lose for draft reasons is a born loser, enjoys losing, will be a loser forever.
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Perfectly stated.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Marks hair Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
If they somehow know that tp isnt going to develope into a qb… then change his position.. wtf dont they understand?
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Because that requires imagination
December 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
ChrisinNC Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 7:03 am
If we win against the Panthers next week, that’s really gonna mess up our draft position. Much worse than this week’s win. We badly need a top 5 pick so we can trade down and get some picks. Winning against the Panthers could put us out of the top 10. Brilliant DA. Really.
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No worries we will get our ARES handed to us, see what they did to the Dis-Chargers and we suck worse than they do.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
If you cant see forward to aprils draft, im sure you think ‘forever’ is a bad yr or two..
December 17th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Good to see you back JFB. Need to get ya some new friends. LOL
December 17th, 2012 at 8:40 am
You don’t change the losing culture of a Team by losing on purpose.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:41 am
153.RaidingTexas Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
Whatever fan wanted us to lose for draft reasons is a born loser, enjoys losing, will be a loser forever.
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Perfectly stated.
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There are others like me, who were not hoping we lose, but if it did happen, it would have offered more hope for the future by securing a higher pick. The win however brought absolutely no joy to my heart. This was the least watchable game I can remember. The only reason I tuned in was to see Pryor, and that just turned into a tease.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Unfortunatly Pryor’s debut went down as expected. And when it comes to this coaching debacle, is about as low of expectation as you can get.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Raider-In-PA Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 8:23 am
This staff already knows all they want to know about Pryor. He was drafted by Al Davis, therefor he’s apparently the reason they are 4-10.
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This staff already knows that they are cleaning house on the entire team… Like I said above, all the QBs on the roster can GTF out! DA saying that Palmer is the future is BS! He isnt ANYBODY’s future, quit wasting the fans f-ing time! I know the purging of players cant happen all at once, but damnit quit lying about what REALLY is going to happen. The staff isnt keeping Pryor, and if they had their way, Palmer wouldnt be here this year either! For all DA knows, HE might not be the future either!
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Well, they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt. I don’t know why Hue had more success on offense than these guys ever could…I also wonder if Chief fans were saying the same thing when Scott Pioli & Todd Haley come aboard. They knew everything too.
December 17th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Once again this ‘team’ it’s coaches managers and owner flat out suk.
Some win huh – cant even get a TD? The chiefs won better picks and out coached this group again.
DA and staff f’ing suk. Art shell 2 – you’ve found your equal.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:07 am
The way it looks 3 teams in the afc west may have a top 10 pick maybe even top 8!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Good morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
December 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Merry Christmas, BoSchembechlerJackson! This is for you.
Long-snapper Jon Condo was honored before the game with the Commitment to Excellence award, given to the player most worthy of excellence on and off the field as voted by his teammates.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
As much as I wanna support DA he making it hard with this not playin the younger players ever team knows when the season is over you get the young guys in there to build 4 next season and see who is worthy of being here it just baffles me that Reggie & DA hasn’t or to stubborn to figure this out!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 9:12 am
The_Judge37 Says:
You don’t change the losing culture of a Team by losing on purpose.
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Show me a good loser, whatever the justification, and I’ll show you a loser.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Wow, Romeo Crennel reminded me of Art Shell v2…Where did they get their WRs? LOL, balls bounding off their facemask for pete’s sake!
DA knows if next year we can play 16 games against the Chiefs we have a shot! LOL.
Trade DMAC! Its obvious, isnt it?
December 17th, 2012 at 9:20 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
As much as I wanna support DA he making it hard with this not playin the younger players ever team knows when the season is over you get the young guys in there to build 4 next season and see who is worthy of being here it just baffles me that Reggie & DA hasn’t or to stubborn to figure this out!!!
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They’re not going to prove themselves wrong.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Slowlando could have covered the Chiefs WRs, man they are worse than the POS crew we got here… I was surprised they could not run the ball on us, but what do you expect form Romero Crennel?
December 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I really, really don’t get why Pryor did not play more snaps. WTF do you have to loose?
Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?
December 17th, 2012 at 9:28 am
In the off season, I was kinda miffed that we didnt try to grab Peyton Hillis to replace Mike Bush… Boy am I glad we didnt now!! I cant understand how he had such a good year or two with the Brown (stains)???
December 17th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I really, really don’t get why Pryor did not play more snaps. WTF do you have to loose?
Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?
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Yep.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Winning the NFL version of a “Bum Fight” isn’t really winning much…glad to beat the Chiefs, too bad it didn’t affect anything more than draft position…
I’d be stoked for 16 games that actually mattered.
BTW: I was At the last Raider Shutout, and that game looked NOTHING lie the fiasco yesterday…
December 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:28 am
In the off season, I was kinda miffed that we didnt try to grab Peyton Hillis to replace Mike Bush… Boy am I glad we didnt now!! I cant understand how he had such a good year or two with the Brown (stains)???
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Madden Curse
December 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMAC should have run for some 200 yards yesterday, Goodson looked better cutting to the holes. Trade DMAC, for some reason he can’t get going here.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?
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Yep.
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If that is true 5 FG’s just seems to re-enforce that Knapp can not get this O into the end zone. YEAH!! Knapp sucks and unless this staff is ignorant or blind they gotta see it.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I thought Goodsen looked more natuaral and in the flow yesterday too.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMAC should have run for some 200 yards yesterday, Goodson looked better cutting to the holes. Trade DMAC, for some reason he can’t get going here.
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Yes, let’s get rid of McFadden and not the guy who’s offense is one of the lowest scoring in the League.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I thought Goodsen looked more natuaral and in the flow yesterday too.
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Goodson runs hard, but can he run 20+ times a game? He’s a good backup, that’s about it.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
5 Field Goals against a team that didn’t get a 1st down until the end of the 3rd qtr is pretty bad…
We did n’t even SNIFF the end zone AGAIN!
This team is a MESS, top to bottom…
December 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Goodson looks GASSED after every play he runs…
could have been the Big Hits he was taking though.
Maybe if DA gave him a whole series, we’d know a little more about what we have in him.
But, instead we kept our “starters” in for majority of the day to get the Season Defining WIN!
December 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Carson did badly under throw one for Moore that should’ve been a TD. When one is playing well, the other isn’t. Seems like this team can’t give us a complete game unless they play like crap on both sides.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
John David Booty Says:
December 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Raiders #1 in YAC.
But some want to act like we dont have offensive talent. Please.
YAC is the most telling stat of an offensive skill players ability.
Call the plays, plays will be made. Simple as that.
The fact that the Raiders are #1 in YAC is even MORE of an indictment on Knapp. We should be scoring much more.
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It’s more an indicator of great QB play. The combination of reading where the open man that will also have running room, leading the WRs so that they can catch in stride or throwing to the backside (on set plays) to get the DBs to take the wrong angle, and calling the right audibles to get the ball away from the safeties. Of course Palmer gets no credit for this.
Some of this also comes from strategically using bubbles and screens to supplement a running game that is struggling, but of course Knapp gets no credit for that.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Kirk Cousins, the wave of the future. In his first career start the 4th round rookie throws for more yards than RGIII has in his previous 12 starts.
Kind of makes you wonder if maybe the system has anything to do with it. Also makes you wonder if there’s merit in running less and waiting for the plays to open up.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Raider(since 1967)★
You know I wasn’t completely satisfied with the ” Open a Can of whipa$$ ” I expect Superwhimp to throw 4 td passes, but no he
Instead crawls into a hole and.” RETROGRADE / Mark says) This is not clearly Oaklands future, this is a scare Qb and a quarterback eating dirt guy..
Never will you ever be a “Brady ” Whats wrong with this Dude he is like a Zombi, let Pryor play a whole game.Win or lose who cares, show what you got boy! He may end up been the best we ever have. !
December 17th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Somebody notice the Steelers got called for ZERO penalties in yesterday’s game vs Dallas? how is that possible? their Oline holds on every friggin play! The refs have an agenda, its obvious.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
So, #1 in YAC? we must be #1 in YAInt cause Palmer averages a Pick-6 per game.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
DT Nix and LT Martin returning to ND next year.
Some of you had talked about drafting Nix….sorry.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
On the TP debut, I think they saw exactly what they’ve been seeing in practice. No reads or audibles on the runs. A horrible read on the pass play looking to get the ball to a WR that has a DB draped all over him — and he was directly in front of him only a few yards away, not exactly hard to see the situation. Fortunately, he made a terrible throw or that might be a turnover inside his own 20.
The best TP moment included above with this brilliant quote, “…I enjoyed the four plays, or whatever it was, but I was excited to get in there at least.” Yeah, it’s tough to keep count when the play numbers are getting up into the 3’s and 4’s. This guy is rocket scientist material for sure.
I hope that they are going leverage this and convince him to use his skills where they are the best fit, at WR. It’s not like he has a bottleneck of All-Pros ahead of him to push through for a roster spot at this position.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Raider (since 1967)★
When Am I going to see a 48- 6 win? Or a 3 consecutive shotout Games in a Row ?
Can someone tell me when will they
FIRE KNAPP?
December 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Yesterday’s victory was self-serving at its finest. It appears as though Coach Allen is more concerned about saving his job with meaning less wins than improving the team. Gregg Knapps play calling or lack thereof was apparent….Again, against the hapless Chiefs. Five field goals by the team MVP and some are happy with the “W.” Pryor and Leinert should be allowed to play at this point in the season. BTW, most of those runs yesterday by McFadden and Goodson were power and trap plays and not the zbs that not work with the current offensive line. Don’t be fooled by what happened and any comments from Knapp about it takes a while – It was power and traps and not what he promotes and stakes his reputation on – What a con.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:56 am
C´mon, let Pryor play, whats the difference? If he stinks it up he will be on the level with the rest of the team. If he runs around makes plays and looks a little bit like RG3 he might have some trade value.
Right now he has zero trade value, that cant drop.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am
181.VanHeathen30 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
5 Field Goals against a team that didn’t get a 1st down until the end of the 3rd qtr is pretty bad…
We did n’t even SNIFF the end zone AGAIN!
This team is a MESS, top to bottom…
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Now this pathetic coaching staff has something to hang their hats on and try to justify their continued employment…..just like what Cable go away with at the end of 2008 against Tampon Bay….
December 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider (since 1967) ★
It seems the more we ask for something the longer it takes and the more you hurt.
Never tell anyone were it hurts you the most because they “ll put Salt on your Wounds.We humans are like that, the more faster you want something ,the longer it takes and one day we are good and the next day we are bad. Why?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Reggie sucks!!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:06 am
171.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I really, really don’t get why Pryor did not play more snaps. WTF do you have to loose?
Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?
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NFL coaches routinely meet with the TV crew before any televised game. In his meeting with the CBS crew prior to the KC game, CSN BayArea reported that Allen told the crew that Palmer, not Pryor, was his QB of the future.
Let the screeching begin.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
That Stupid azzed win, pushed the Raiders down to maybe #6 in the draft?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Zymurge Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:46
Kind of makes you wonder if maybe the system has anything to do with it.
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Gee, ya think???? The “system” has just about everything to do with it! Same thing applies to New England, Green Bay and New Orleans. And for the great Redskins and 49er teams of the 80s and 90s. Made great players out of the Montanas, Youngs, Favres, Rodgers, Flynns, Bradys, Cassells and Hoyers of the world. It never has and never will be just about the QB.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Zymurge Says:
On the TP debut, I think they saw exactly what they’ve been seeing in practice. No reads or audibles on the runs. A horrible read on the pass play looking to get the ball to a WR that has a DB draped all over him — and he was directly in front of him only a few yards away, not exactly hard to see the situation. Fortunately, he made a terrible throw or that might be a turnover inside his own 20.
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Be fair. Pryor said he did check down from a deeper covered receiver to Myers, I think, who was doubled, and then to DHB and saw the defender closing as he was throwing and basically threw it away so as not to throw a pick. Sounds to me like what a QB should do. Had he taken off on foot, he would’ve caught heat for that, too.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am
It will be up to Pryor to play more. This staff will only give him two series at the most in the comming games, so it will be up to him to extend drives and force their hand.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Raider (since 1967) ★
I’ve ask Cork –Hi Cork ! A million times in the Forum to-
“Please make a Knapp Poll -Should Knapp be Fire at the
End lf the season-Yes or No? Vote @
I predict 3000 blogs!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
How do we explain the Eagles debacle? What do they do now? They supposedly already have the talent to win. What happened?
How frustrated would WE be as Raider fans having a “dream team” and lose like they have?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Omoran Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Raider (since 1967) ★
I’ve ask Cork –Hi Cork ! A million times in the Forum to-
“Please make a Knapp Poll -Should Knapp be Fire at the
End lf the season-Yes or No? Vote @
I predict 3000 blogs!
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KoolKell – Yes.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Zymurge Says:
On the TP debut, I think they saw exactly what they’ve been seeing in practice. No reads or audibles on the runs. A horrible read on the pass play looking to get the ball to a WR that has a DB draped all over him — and he was directly in front of him only a few yards away, not exactly hard to see the situation. Fortunately, he made a terrible throw or that might be a turnover inside his own 20
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Well if locking onto one WR and throwing ill advised passes into coverage is the major factor of playing time, then Carson would’ve been benched for Lienart along time ago.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
As I said, Phillip Adams, Brandian Ross & Joselio Hanson will be our CBs next season, and will be good enough.
Pass Rush & Oline is vital.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raider ((since 1967) ★
We lost our division because stupidity and knowing nothing about personel. When something works don’t touch it
We were 8-8 last year and we lost 2-3 stupid games because we didn’t close them out. Then said we Should have had a 11-5 season but ended 8-8 and No Playoff . Playoffs ?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
1-Dion Jordan
2-Corey Lemonier
3-Kyle Long
This > anything else.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
omoran Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raider ((since 1967) ★
We lost our division because stupidity and knowing nothing about personel. When something works don’t touch it
We were 8-8 last year and we lost 2-3 stupid games because we didn’t close them out. Then said we Should have had a 11-5 season but ended 8-8 and No Playoff . Playoffs ?
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We were 8-8, 5 of those wins were by 6 or less.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:56 am
C´mon, let Pryor play, whats the difference? If he stinks it up he will be on the level with the rest of the team. If he runs around makes plays and looks a little bit like RG3 he might have some trade value.
Right now he has zero trade value, that cant drop.
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I’m guessing his trade value would fall to nothing if he plays. Same as JaMoney didn’t want to go through the combine etc. The more a horrible passer showcases his “talents,” the more his value drops.
His trade value might never be higher than it is right now. Look how much of the Raider nation thinks he’s our savior!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
JB Says:
Had we played our back-ups we’d now know a lot more on what to expect from them in real playing time. We’d have a much better understanding of who to keep and who to dump.
IMO, the smart coach today was not DA but rather Romeo Crennel. His team will benefit in a much bigger fashion next year draft wise while we have downgraded our options. DA’s decisions today could cost us an additional year or two to catch up. Instead we get to say we skunked the #32 team in the NFL – BFD!
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Not singling you out here, JB. It’s a popular opinion. My question is if you’re playing the worst team in the league, and suspect they might rather lose, just how much would you learn about you’re back ups? They’re going to play hard no matter what ’cause they’re back ups. Might be a good time to see how hard your starters play in a “meaningless game” and if they’re football players or check cashers. Still two games to go to evaluate players, and San Diego won’t be tanking for draft position at home.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I don’t know what some guys wanted from the Raiders yesterday.
You aren’t really mad at them for trying to win the game are you?
How fair would that be to the fans who spent good money to go to the game?
Noone expected this team to intentionally throw the game did you?
I’m guessing where most are disappointed is with DA NOT playing all the 2nd and 3rd stringers…the “young guys”. I get that. But those “young guys” would be trying to win too and probably would have won yesterday.
Right now as it stands we would be picking # 3…which is fine.
After what Carolina did to SD yesterday I don’t see us beating them and SD would be a tough game for us too, so don’t panic that we mortagaged our future on this win.
Enjoy it if u can. I know it seems hollow cuz it came against a very bad team, but the bright side is we swept the season series from KC…getting a home win against them for the first time in forever…plus it’s a little bit of revenge for the shutout they put on us last yr. at the OCO in Palmer’s “just off the couch” game.
I’m not gonna panic about our draft place. What happens..happens.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
omoran Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raider ((since 1967) ★
We lost our division because stupidity and knowing nothing about personel. When something works don’t touch it
We were 8-8 last year and we lost 2-3 stupid games because we didn’t close them out. Then said we Should have had a 11-5 season but ended 8-8 and No Playoff . Playoffs ?
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We were 8-8, 5 of those wins were by 6 or less.
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3 out 4 of our wins have been by Janakowski Field Goals
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:20 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
As much as I wanna support DA he making it hard with this not playin the younger players ever team knows when the season is over you get the young guys in there to build 4 next season and see who is worthy of being here it just baffles me that Reggie & DA hasn’t or to stubborn to figure this out!!!
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They’re not going to prove themselves wrong.
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So what do u assume they’re proving now Kool???
Because I wld love to know!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I don’t know what some guys wanted from the Raiders yesterday.
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A touchdown would’ve been nice
December 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Raider (since 1967)★
” IF AL WOULD BE ALIVE MANNING WOULD NOT BE IN DENVER ” !
He would have Scout his every move, and had his checkbook open to make him Oakland qb.
But no we fail and the DONKEES $hit it us inside our helmets.
We were to busy been so bad and distress, that we hit the Iceberg and sank !
December 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Think part of the problem with the Eagles started when they tried to do a polamalu with Nnamdi.Nnamdi is a cover corner and that is about it. The toughness they had in the backfield with the likes of Dawkins was replaced with glamour backs. That’ my take on it.
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203.DJ Johnny Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
How do we explain the Eagles debacle? What do they do now? They supposedly already have the talent to win. What happened?
How frustrated would WE be as Raider fans having a “dream team” and lose like they have?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:48 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
omoran Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raider ((since 1967) ★
We lost our division because stupidity and knowing nothing about personel. When something works don’t touch it
We were 8-8 last year and we lost 2-3 stupid games because we didn’t close them out. Then said we Should have had a 11-5 season but ended 8-8 and No Playoff . Playoffs ?
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We were 8-8, 5 of those wins were by 6 or less.
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3 out 4 of our wins have been by Janakowski Field Goals
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This is correct.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:49 am
KC will take Geno Smith # 1 and Jx most likely will take Jarvis Jones..a linebacker.
I doubt we would’ve taken either of those guys anyway so it doesn’t really matter.
Like Charlie says we need to “build the lines” and I agree.
Therefore we probably take Bjorn Werner at DE…someone we really need at # 3. If we fall further becuz of winning these next 2 weeks than he may still be available. We just don’t know.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
We werent that good last year. We arent that good this year. We havent been good since 2001.
Deal with reality. Stop being ignorant homers.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I think much of the fan base wanted to see a td yesterday! Not sure why we didn’t go for it on 4th, but I am not DA!
Quite a few fans left yesterday because it was that ball control offense that Knapp loves…but dam dude, can we get someone, anyone in the friggen end zone???
However, at the end of the day…thanks DA…we won against our heated rival…draft position or not…you play to wn the game!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am
i certainly have no problem playing for the win. My only concern is not seeing enough of tp6
December 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Gotta agree with the play to win every game.Play to lose for draft picks is quite hard for me to accept. Does anyone know of a teams/organazations that admitted to losing games for draft picks?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
nycraider Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am
i certainly have no problem playing for the win. My only concern is not seeing enough of tp6
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3 FG attempts of 50+ yards is also a concern
December 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am
I would love to have a great pick in the draft, but anyone who thinks a team should lose just to get a pick should not call himself a fan. A team should never try to lose.
Getting a high pick does not mean the pick will work out. Drafting well is the secret. Also, even though there is a salary wage scale, the lower the pick, the higher the cost. The money can go farther with a later pick.
BOTTOM LINE: Play to win. Every time.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am
I get the Feeling that giving Pryor 1 pass attempt vs an inferior opponent at home is DA’s version Lane Kiffin’s 76 yard FG attempt. Just a big F-U to the fans.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Raider (since 1967)★
What’s the excuse next week? We have to win, There’s no
excuse! Don’t retrograde/ Mark !
Next time a good Qb becomes available on radar we have to be ready . A Brady, Eli or Ruthlessburger could be available guys.It takes good Scouting and some Spy work.
” Now that REGGIE is busy trying to get a bigger Dump truck to Gut the place up!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
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Be fair. Pryor said he did check down from a deeper covered receiver to Myers, I think, who was doubled, and then to DHB and saw the defender closing as he was throwing and basically threw it away so as not to throw a pick. Sounds to me like what a QB should do. Had he taken off on foot, he would’ve caught heat for that, too.
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In that case, he’s smarter than I give him credit for, because he made up a nice little tale there. I watched the play on slo-mo. In his drop he started looking left at Streater, who had press man cover. He looked off him about 4 steps into his pattern (I guess this was the “deeper” route) then snapped his head to the center of the field and fired immediately to DHB — the guy with the DB draped all over him. I’m not sure where he found the time to look for Myers now why he would “throw it away” over the middle into a sea of red. He had no pressure and plenty of time to let the patterns run out, move around, or at worst to huck it out of bounds. It was 3rd down afterall and it wasn’t like he had a play to waste.
On the other hand, if he played it so perfectly then why was he not played the rest of the game? Palmer was pretty clearly not himself with the flu bug and all, so it was THE ideal time to give him more reps.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
222.nycraider Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am
i certainly have no problem playing for the win. My only concern is not seeing enough of tp6
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Me too. I wanna see him play the whole game start to finish…and see what happens. If we win or lose so be it.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
220.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
We werent that good last year. We arent that good this year. We havent been good since 2001.
Deal with reality. Stop being ignorant homers.
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We were good in 2002 too. I understand your point though.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Brisiel should shoo Knapp along.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:07 am
215.The_Judge37 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I don’t know what some guys wanted from the Raiders yesterday.
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A touchdown would’ve been nice
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I agree. I meant in terms of deliberately trying to lose the game.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Iv read here where some losers post that DA actually tried to win this game so he could save his job,…really?….the next coach that puts out a game plan to lose on purpose not only gets canned but would be forever banned from the league,…DA isnt getting canned nor is Knapp or Tarver,…Reggies first move is to get rid of Pryor, and maybe get a 3rd rounder for DMC.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
We werent that good last year. We arent that good this year. We havent been good since 2001.
Deal with reality. Stop being ignorant homers.
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8-8 is twice as good as 4-12
December 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DA isnt getting canned nor is Knapp or Tarver,…Reggies first move is to get rid of Pryor, and maybe get a 3rd rounder for DMC.
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Yes because Pryor is the main Reason we’ve been losing this season.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Eh, how smart will Romeo Crennel look after he gets fired?
December 17th, 2012 at 11:13 am
This years draft is maybe the worst ever…there is no great player going number one,…the top ten players are about the same as the players in the fourth round. Youve just been educated.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Knapp DESERVES to be criticized next year. I will withhold judgment on DA until next year and I’ll withhold judgment on Reggie until the year after.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Romeo will be fine,..get a DC job the day after he gets canned.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Dakota Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
DT Nix and LT Martin returning to ND next year.
Some of you had talked about drafting Nix….sorry.
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Too bad, I would take Nix before T’eo
December 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:13 am
This years draft is maybe the worst ever…there is no great player going number one,…the top ten players are about the same as the players in the fourth round. Youve just been educated.
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Take it easy there Mel Kiper
December 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Chris In NY Says:
December 16th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I’ve heard rumors the Lions are souring on Suh quite some.
I would offer them McFadden (sign and trade if need be) along with a 2014 first round pick for him and see if that is enough.
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No thanks. Suh is a physically dominant guy, but I’ve seen more than one analyst break down tape that shows him playing undisciplined and basically being the culprit on a lot of blown plays by the Lions defense because of it. If the Lions have soured on him, I’m sure it’s more because of this sort of thing than anything else.
McFadden under Hue was one of the best RBs in football. No way do I trade him and a 2014 first rounder for Suh. Maybe one or the other. Definitely not both.
Gotta remember too that with the new rookie salary structure the 2014 first rounder will make far less than Suh and we’ll have him locked up longer.
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Yep. Suh is a mess.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:16 am
By the way I got to meet DA yesterday, I was on the sidelines with Villapiano pregame and when DA came over to shake his hand I got to meet him. While you guys were watching The RedZone.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Lester,..with the top 6 pick we get Reggie will trade it for as many picks as he can,…book that.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Deal with reality. Stop being ignorant homers.
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Exactly Tits fan…Hue didn’t have an off-season due to the lockout, lost his MVP caliber RB, his starting QB, then had to trade for a guy who was sitting on his couch, stuck with Bresnahan as DC, dealt with injuries to the WR core and yet still had us at 8-8 & competing for a division title.
But hey Tits has gotten us 4 wins(3 of which are against teams that will draft 1 or 2), gotten us blown out by teams hovering around .500 and gets destroyed in the 3rd quarter of every game not against the Chiefs or Jaguars…
He’s quite the keeper.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Raider (since 1967) ★
Raider’s game wasn’t televized in Miami! Cowboys was. Hate them ! AHHH! They said some of you will see the Oakland vs Kc following this Dolphins game ! Sure , you know I watch it on my mobile phone and put it on my ESPN – GAMECAST with Alarm for every scoring! 5 -6 JANO SEABASS FIELD GOAL made it ring 6 times. Hoping 1 ring would be a TD!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:16 am
By the way I got to meet DA yesterday, I was on the sidelines with Villapiano pregame and when DA came over to shake his hand I got to meet him. While you guys were watching The RedZone.
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Bragging about meeting DA is like Bragging that you stayed at Tom Walsh’s B&B
December 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
That is correct…no real must have picks this year…just hope whoever you get pans out! I still want Manti Teo, but that is me being biased…lol
Yesterday, last home game/tailgate…not really feeling myself either! Couldn’t move! Sorry Bob, was going to follow Brien yesterday, but he took off before I could grab a beer! Hopefully I can get to Mau’i next month! Like I said, it’s been a long time…I believe since 97!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I meant to say Knapp deserves to be criticized THIS YEAR.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Tom has a B and B,…you have nothing.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Dont blame Brien,..I OD`d him on Jello shots.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I don’t know what some guys wanted from the Raiders yesterday.
You aren’t really mad at them for trying to win the game are you?
How fair would that be to the fans who spent good money to go to the game?
Noone expected this team to intentionally throw the game did you?
I’m guessing where most are disappointed is with DA NOT playing all the 2nd and 3rd stringers…the “young guys”. I get that. But those “young guys” would be trying to win too and probably would have won yesterday.
Right now as it stands we would be picking # 3…which is fine.
After what Carolina did to SD yesterday I don’t see us beating them and SD would be a tough game for us too, so don’t panic that we mortagaged our future on this win.
Enjoy it if u can. I know it seems hollow cuz it came against a very bad team, but the bright side is we swept the season series from KC…getting a home win against them for the first time in forever…plus it’s a little bit of revenge for the shutout they put on us last yr. at the OCO in Palmer’s “just off the couch” game.
I’m not gonna panic about our draft place. What happens..happens.
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I know, right?
This group is like a gaggle of constipated old ladies, sitting around whining about their sad lives.
Say what you want, but the Raiders defense went out played a great game yesterday. And they did it with the young group of players that are going to be the backbone of next season’s unit: Bryant, Wheeler, Adams (briefly), Houston, Ross, Hanson, Burris. They showed that Tarver is learning how to adjust to an opponent and that the right players put in the right position can make plays. And they did it on a day when the offense wasn’t exatly tearing it up, putting them into more predictible situations.
You can claim that KC is a bad team — and they are — but they are an NFL team that put up 27 on Carolina two weeks ago (with Quinn). They hadn’t been shut out before this season either, so by definition this was one of the better defensive efforts against them all year.
Did you all forget that this was a unit that was allowing NFL record number of points against it across consecutive weeks? Now DA is doing as he said and playing the young guys that have shown that they deserve deeper looks and we’re seeing positive results.
And all you guys can do is piss and moan about not seeing enough TP, how they didn’t throw the game for a better draft pick, and how generally miserable the rest of your lives must be because the Raiders aren’t winning the Super Bowl this year. Me? I’m doing what I can to enjoy the rebuilding process as much as I did the winning seasons (and I go back to the teams of the late 60’s) because it’s all one big journey. If you don’t stop to look out the window and enjoy the view every now and then, waiting only to get to the destination, then you’ll find that you missed an awful lot of life along the way.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Tom has a B and B,…you have nothing.
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Fishing for Kudos on the internet is the defenition of having nothing.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
DJ Johnny Says:
I don’t know what some guys wanted from the Raiders yesterday.
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The_Judge37 Says:
A touchdown would’ve been nice
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Can’t argue with that.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Rolando McClain, coming off a two-game suspension and demoted to second-string middle linebacker in the base defense, was inactive for the first time in his NFL career.
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This complete POS wasn’t suited up. And we pitched a shutout. And they got 17 yards in the lst half. While this POS wasn’t near the field. That is NOT a coincidence.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
One thing I saw yesterday from my row 1 seats,..Goodson is waaaaaay better then DMC. Wheeler and Burris play great together,…and we all can agree, the D is much better without that bich Rolando.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Stop fishing then Lester.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bragging about meeting DA is like Bragging that you stayed at Tom Walsh’s B&B
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LOL!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I wasnt bragging,…the simple minded cant tell the difference from saying you met someone from bragging,..if I wanted to brag I would have said I was hangin with Ted Hendricks on the sideline yesterday. That would have been bragging,..get it now Forrest?…by the way Ted is cool.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
you guys sound like idiots complaining about winning the game..Theres no can’t miss players in this draft unlike last years luck and rg3…from 1-10 theres good players to pick up,plus we dont need just a top pick we need to trade it down for a latter 1st and 2nd rd pick…since or 2nd rd goes to cincy…like herem edwards said you play to win the game we hadn’t won in a month and a half we needed this victory…But i will say that we should have played pryor more
December 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Dont blame Brien,..I OD`d him on Jello shots.
LOL, I heard when he came back…
December 17th, 2012 at 11:36 am
The_Judge37,
LMAO @ post #247.
Post of the day. Serious contender for post of the year.
Hilarious.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
jongruden2013 the problem with goodson is he’s just like dmac and taiwan jones there made of glass
December 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I wasnt bragging,…the simple minded cant tell the difference from saying you met someone from bragging,..if I wanted to brag I would have said I was hangin with Ted Hendricks on the sideline yesterday. That would have been bragging,..get it now Forrest?…by the way Ted is cool.
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I almost bought a used Hyundai from Stuart Schweigert, he was cool too but tough to negotiate with.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Good we beat a division rival yesterday…for as bad as they are! Defense showed some potential and character yesterday(see Bryant, Houston, Burris, Hanson)! Jano keeps us in games and wins them for us too! As for the offense…no TD’s, runs off guard got more yards than those pathetic sweeps! DHB can’t catch a flight, and DMC is slow and goes down when a defender breathes on him! Palmer has lost confidence and play-calling is so freakin predictable its embarassing! When are some of these fools going to be held accountable? We need motivators, players (who make plays) and a commitment to play NFL football!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Zymurge Says: #228
In that case, he’s smarter than I give him credit for, because he made up a nice little tale there. I watched the play on slo-mo.
On the other hand, if he played it so perfectly then why was he not played the rest of the game? Palmer was pretty clearly not himself with the flu bug and all, so it was THE ideal time to give him more reps.
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Don’t have the luxury of replay, and actually missed Pryors entire series. But I think I paraphrased his post game comment fairly accurately, so if he’s teling tales that’ll come out. And I heard Pryor had the flu also, along with several other Raiders other than Palmer.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Raider (since 1967)★
You know we miss out in getting MANNING -they say it was to risky a move to take and he could get injure again! You Know ,
Life is Biatch risk itself. Gamblers win it all or lose it all!
“GOOD Qbs are like T- Rex they will appear and eat everyone up. MANNING, ELI, ROTHLESBURGER could become available
Reggie should be aware of this, he has to put THE WATER CUPS on his Desk to see when they will Vibrate! That’s all.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Iv never considered a Hyundai…never.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
One thing I saw yesterday from my row 1 seats,..Goodson is waaaaaay better then DMC.
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I have been saying Goodson is better than McFadden since week 2. Yesterday undeniably proved that. One of the top reasons we are 4-10 this season is McFadden has been horrible. Eff that guy.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Even Jeremy Stewart or what ever his name is has been a pleasant surprise! We’ll see what happens come off season!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
# hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Even Jeremy Stewart or what ever his name is has been a pleasant surprise! We’ll see what happens come off season!
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When Jeremy Stewart can go out and outperform McFadden something is wrong.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
I’d like to see what Goodson would look like carring the ball 20+ times. Don’t think he’a anything more than a back up but it’s worth a shot.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
This would be nice….
1strd:Damontre Moore-DE
2ndrd:Jessie Williams-DT (after hopeful trade)
3rdrd:Giovani Bernard-RB or Eddie Lacy-RB
4thrd:Gerald Hodges-OLB
5thrd:Ryan Nassib-QB (also trade)
6thrd:Will Davis-CB
Trade DMAC for Dallas’s 2nd and Bruce Carter to man the MLB spot…..
December 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Bo,..you really study the 6th round? Geez.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I think the reason why is that Goody and Stewart have better patience with the ZBS! I’m no expert so I could be wrong but…DMAC did rip off a slow 100 yarder yesterday!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I’m telling you the Jets, Cowboys or Packers would be willing to give Raiders a 2nd Rounder for DMC.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
# The_Judge37 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
I’d like to see what Goodson would look like carring the ball 20+ times. Don’t think he’a anything more than a back up but it’s worth a shot.
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Maybe. But Reece also outperformed McFadden. And so did an undrafted Stewart to go along with Goodson. In fact they probably could have pulled Gorilla Rilla out of the black hole and he would have been more productive than McFadden. McFadden is a waste of a roster space and a ton of cap. Get rid of him and watch us win.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Seymour, I like that theory but when DMAC was out for 3 games, we still didn;t win!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
# The_Judge37 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
I’d like to see what Goodson would look like carring the ball 20+ times. Don’t think he’a anything more than a back up but it’s worth a shot.
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Maybe. But Reece also outperformed McFadden. And so did an undrafted Stewart to go along with Goodson. In fact they probably could have pulled Gorilla Rilla out of the black hole and he would have been more productive than McFadden. McFadden is a waste of a roster space and a ton of cap. Get rid of him and watch us win.
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DMC has not been good this year, but if you think going into next year with Goodson/Stewart combo will equate to wins then you’re in for a rude awakening from this years Dirt Knapp.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I was on the fence concerning Mcfragile but if we could get a good 2nd for him it would hepl us in the long run.
Plenty of teams use “no name” running backs and do just fine. Just dont rade him to anyone in the AFC west.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The only thing DMC did yesterday was cough up the ball deep in our territory that gave KC hope. There is NO team thats giving Reggie a 2nd,..Reg is hoping for a 4th.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Wow. What a win yesterday huh?
Couldn’t even a get an actual TD against a team that is slightly worse than us?
It’s okay. Carolina will beat the Raiders next week and hope our draft position is better.
I don’t want the Bolts drafing ahead of Raiders.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Chico,
Glad you are ok. I told you not to take the wife. lol
Baby mama drama and it’s not your baby?!
WTF?!
December 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am
DMC has not been good this year, but if you think going into next year with Goodson/Stewart combo will equate to wins then you’re in for a rude awakening from this years Dirt Knapp.
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December 17th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Seymour, I like that theory but when DMAC was out for 3 games, we still didn;t win!
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That’s because McClain played in those games.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
“FIELD GOAL, RRRRRRRAAAAIDERS!”
December 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
233.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Iv read here where some losers post that DA actually tried to win this game so he could save his job,…really?….the next coach that puts out a game plan to lose on purpose not only gets canned but would be forever banned from the league,…DA isnt getting canned nor is Knapp or Tarver,…Reggies first move is to get rid of Pryor, and maybe get a 3rd rounder for DMC.
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When your season is over, the most prudent thing to do is PLAY TO WIN THE GAME, while benching your “starters” who contributed to this putrid record, and playing the young guys you are clueless about what you have in them, i.e. TP6, TJ, Criner, Bilukidi, Chekwa, Crawford, Bergstrom, etc. All of them should have been starters against KC and played all 60 minutes. That way you can’t lose, if you win, you find out which ones are worth keeping and can play in this league, if you lose, you know what you have in them while securing a higher pick. WIN – WIN situation. But that is the kind of logic that seems to evade the current coaching staff due to their own selfish reasons.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Seymour,
FYI, we were 0-4 without McFadden this year. Three of those losses were absolute blowouts. The other was to the Browns at home.
Here’s something that will blow ur mind and all the DMac haters. Did you know that when McFadden gets at least 18 carries this season, the Raiders are 4-1. Look it up. Absolute fact. Oh, and the one loss, was probably our best game of the season, losing at ATL on a lastsecond 55 yard FG.
I’m not saying this is somehow the magic formula for success, but to say he’s “one of the main reasons we’re 4-10″ is not reality-based. Unless you’re suggesting we’d be 1-13 without him.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
1strd:Damontre Moore-DE
2ndrd:Jessie Williams-DT (after hopeful trade)
3rdrd:Giovani Bernard-RB or Eddie Lacy-RB
4thrd:Gerald Hodges-OLB
5thrd:Ryan Nassib-QB (also trade)
6thrd:Will Davis-CB
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Trade down:
1- CB D Milliner
2- OLB Dion Jordan, Anthony Barr, or Chase Thomas
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- RB Michael Dyer
December 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I remember Hue being quoted as saying that DMC was the best back in the league “barnone”, over the likes of AP & Arian Foster. I remember buying in to that statement. Now I just feel real stupid.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
If history is any indicator if we trade DMAC he will thrive on the team we trade him to. I want to trade him for a 2nd but in a way I dont want him to go somewhere and kick our ass.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
The Raiders arent going to bench their highest paid player so they can take a look at Pryor,..listen, they have gotten a look at him,..all summer and every practice,…know why Kapperkapnickkpper is starting for SF?…because they saw him all summer and at every practice,..SF knew he was good, Oakland knows Pryor sucks. Youre welcome.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Seymour, I like that theory but when DMAC was out for 3 games, we still didn;t win!
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That’s because McClain played in those games.
LOL
December 17th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Turf toe Says:
“FIELD GOAL, RRRRRRRAAAAIDERS!”
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That’s funny.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Interesting stat…Raiders tied for record of most points margin of victory where no touchdowns were scored…
15-0, Tampa Bay over Chicago 2002
December 17th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I’m telling you the Jets, Cowboys or Packers would be willing to give Raiders a 2nd Rounder for DMC.
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Not a chance.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
DMC has not been good this year, but if you think going into next year with Goodson/Stewart combo will equate to wins then you’re in for a rude awakening from this years Dirt Knapp.
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Goodson was twice as productive as McFadden. McFadden had 30 snaps. If we had more productive guys take 30 snaps we would have won yesterday 42-0.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
You don’t think that Jerry Jones may take a look at DMAC just to have his Arkansas back field there at Dallas?
December 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I’m telling you the Jets, Cowboys or Packers would be willing to give Raiders a 2nd Rounder for DMC.
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Well as long as YOU’RE sure, then by all means let’sdo it!!! LMAO
December 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
In this league you need 2 starter quality backs. If DMC is willing to sign a contract that is less than what the top 10 backs in the league make, keep him while bringing in another quality back to compete for the starting job with DMC. If he wants a top notch contract, that’s when you trade him before he becomes unrestricted. Either way he is signed through next year. No need to rush things. This team has too many holes to address, trading DMC for a 3rd rounder aint gonna fix jack.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
We couldnt get anything higher than a 4th for DMC.
There is no market for RBs.
He’s under contract for 1 more year WITH NO OPTIONS of any kind.
He’ll be a Raider.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Why trade McFadden for a 3rd rounder or later? So Chubby Checker can get the next Bergstrom, Criner or Stupar? No thanks.
Guys that late in the draft are going to be average at best, if they even make it out of camp with a roster spot. McFadden is obviously injury prone, but when he’s healthy and used right he’s one of the best backs in the game.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
The posts the last day have been surreal. I have never seen people so negative about a WIN! A win! I hope the Raiders win out. I hope the defense plays well with the new players they have found largely off the wire. Wheeler, Burris and now maybe the CB we just got may be keepers same with Hansen as a slot. Getting McClain out of there was a good thing! No leadership? Getting McClain out and then getting the defense to pitch a shutout is a reflection of leadership even if it only was KC.
I too want Knapp fired. I have wanted him fired since the game after the bye week. I just do not think he has it. However I hope the Raiders win out and go 6-10. I do not think it is that important if you are picking #3 or #8 at least I do not want to see a team tank for it.
A lot of these self professed experts clammering for Pryor were JR cheerleaders several years ago. You know who you are! Let the Coaching staff coach. Let Pryor develop. At least this year he is being coached. Your hero Hue did not even talk to him or even have a QB’s coach. That is according to a qoute from Pryor not some inudendo. I am cool seeing TP come in but only if it does not jepordize a game. Players will quit on you if you just put in inferior players and not do what it takes to win. I hope TP develops but I am realistic regarding what it will take for him to get there. It seems TP sees it himself why can’t some of you!?
December 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
# boss01 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I remember Hue being quoted as saying that DMC was the best back in the league “barnone”, over the likes of AP & Arian Foster. I remember buying in to that statement. Now I just feel real stupid.
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We all did. We all thought McFadden was going to be extremely productive. But we all thought McClain was going to productive as well.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!
This coach has now sacrificed a golden opportunity to increase pryor’s reps in practice, and give him snaps in the game!! This is inexcusable!!! For what you may ask? For a selfish win totla padding meaningless victory.
So you mean to tell me that improving your record to 4-10 is more important than playing the one guy that made the most explosive plays through our entire preseason, and 3rd round drafted qb?!?!/
Allen was clearly mandated to play pryor and instead he flips big mack and davis the bird!!
This game was sold as pryor’s debut yet you only let him throw 1 pass?!?!?!
Solomon wilcots said “dennis allen has already said that carson palmer IS the qb of the future, he is well aware of what happened across the bay to smith and kappy, and he wants no part of it here”
This is clearly evidence that allen has no intention of ever letting pryor have a fair shot to complete.
as a fan I feel cheated. I watched that entire game for one reason only and it wasntt o watch the raiders slog to a 5 field goal snooze fest of a win over the worst team in football.
I watched came newton, russel wilson, kappy, and even kirk cousins playing and utilizing zone read and option offense, yet we were forced to watch palmer lead 5 agonizingly boring field goal drives?!?!/
I am done with this team, and allen. i am done with his palmer worship at the expense of the team. his selfishness has robbed pryor of valuable development time, and he has robbed the starving fan base of a reason to continue watching this wretched brand of football. All so he can say he coached 4 victories.
Fire this clown already
December 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Stewart and Goodson as our top backs next year??
Hilarious!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hwnrdr, you and some others make it plain that Norco does hit up the parking lot at O.Co. Does he actually go inside to the game, or is that part of his fantasy life,too?
December 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball?
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Uh, maybe because if he were standing in the ocean he still couldn’t hit water with the ball?
December 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
OC – Norv Turner & Carson Palmer at 1/3 of his current price would be extremely good.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Stewart and Goodson as our top backs next year??
Hilarious!
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What’s even more hilarious is those two guys are our most productive backs.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Stewart and Goodson as our top backs next year??
Hilarious!
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What’s even more hilarious is those two guys are our most productive backs.
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Marcel Reece would like to see you in the kitchen.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
305.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!
This coach has now sacrificed a golden opportunity to increase pryor’s reps in practice, and give him snaps in the game!! This is inexcusable!!! For what you may ask? For a selfish win totla padding meaningless victory.
So you mean to tell me that improving your record to 4-10 is more important than playing the one guy that made the most explosive plays through our entire preseason, and 3rd round drafted qb?!?!/
Allen was clearly mandated to play pryor and instead he flips big mack and davis the bird!!
This game was sold as pryor’s debut yet you only let him throw 1 pass?!?!?!
Solomon wilcots said “dennis allen has already said that carson palmer IS the qb of the future, he is well aware of what happened across the bay to smith and kappy, and he wants no part of it here”
This is clearly evidence that allen has no intention of ever letting pryor have a fair shot to complete.
as a fan I feel cheated. I watched that entire game for one reason only and it wasntt o watch the raiders slog to a 5 field goal snooze fest of a win over the worst team in football.
I watched came newton, russel wilson, kappy, and even kirk cousins playing and utilizing zone read and option offense, yet we were forced to watch palmer lead 5 agonizingly boring field goal drives?!?!/
I am done with this team, and allen. i am done with his palmer worship at the expense of the team. his selfishness has robbed pryor of valuable development time, and he has robbed the starving fan base of a reason to continue watching this wretched brand of football. All so he can say he coached 4 victories.
Fire this clown already
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Exactly. They didn’t even give TP a chance running the zone read option plays.
This staff is a joke!
Keeping DA and this garbage coaching staff around is just a big waste of time when you see the big picture of things.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!
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Actually they had Pryor set up that as long as he got first downs, he was going to stay in the game. He got no first downs, so he didn’t stay in the game. Don’t blame Allen, blame Pryor.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
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Good post but you were a little late on Knapp. Most of us wanted him fired when we found out he was hired.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Pryor sucks dude, hes being let go in a couple weeks. Reg tried to get a 7th rounder but couldnt. Bummer.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
DMC
Reece
Goodson
Stewart
Olawale
Your 2013 Raiders backfield.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE Post 305.
**Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!**
Why would a 3rd string QB not get in???? Because the game is in doubt still perhaps?
Clearly mandated??? Did Al come back from the dead?
This is what I mean about surreal posts over the last day!
You act like TP is RGIII or something. He was Taken in the 3rd round. If the Raiders did not take him no telling how far he would of fell. I like TP and I think unlike JR and QB’s like Kyle Boller is working hard. I hope he makes it but really? Do you want to throw a game just to make sure our 3rd stringer is thorughly evaluated??? Whatever that means….
December 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
McClain has been super productive when healthy and used properly. He was averaging over 5 ypc under Hue and leading the league in rushing when he got hurt last year. It’s obvious that Knapp has little idea and little flexibility to suit his playcalling and design to suit McFadden’s strengths.
I will say that Goodson looked really good yesterday. And while McFadden was solid, he was not quite himself. It was obvious he was having footing issues on a soggy field and the unsure footing slowed him down a step. But he was still solid.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball?
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Uh, maybe because if he were standing in the ocean he still couldn’t hit water with the ball?
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BULSHID!!!!!
he hasnt gotten many reps in practice, he ihas been relegated to scout team.
he completed 55% in pre season and only needs time on the field to show what he can or cant do
besides this is the time to play young qbs and give them game experience, jake locker come to mind.
THis is inexcusable and is now putting the organization behind in terms of draft preparedness
Allen now has committed a tom cable type of selfish move that cant be forgiven and should coast him his job
December 17th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Obviously meant to type McFadden and not McClain in that last post. I never thought McClain was good, even before we drafted him.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Pryor cant even get the ball snapped without a penalty,..hes stupid. Hes not Kkpaaappkkappprrrnikkp…get over it man. Dude sucks.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
McClain has been super productive when healthy and used properly. He was averaging over 5 ypc under Hue and leading the league in rushing when he got hurt last year. It’s obvious that Knapp has little idea and little flexibility to suit his playcalling and design to suit McFadden’s strengths.
I will say that Goodson looked really good yesterday. And while McFadden was solid, he was not quite himself. It was obvious he was having footing issues on a soggy field and the unsure footing slowed him down a step. But he was still solid.
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Why did everyone else still look fast then?
Ive said it before, DMC has been playing hurt all year. Been running gingerly all season. He doesnt want the fragile label so he tried to play through it.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
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Good post but you were a little late on Knapp. Most of us wanted him fired when we found out he was hired.
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Yea I know. I thought we should give him a chance but after the bye week it was obvious he blew up the offense as on that game he had all the tools in play and still stunk it up offensively despite having time to gell. His recent comment about increased productivity next year is garbage! He has had enough time.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!
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Actually they had Pryor set up that as long as he got first downs, he was going to stay in the game. He got no first downs, so he didn’t stay in the game. Don’t blame Allen, blame Pryor.
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that is a retarded thing to do.
So a guy that has never set foot on a field should be pulled aftr one 3 and out?
YET PALMER CAN GO 3 AND OUT TIME AFTER TIME AND LEAD A LOUSY 4-10 RECORD AND NEVER BE BENCHED?!?!?!/!
NO WONDER THIS TEAM HATES HIS GUTS HE IS TWO FACED AND DUPLICITOUS
FIRE HIS AZZZ ALREADY
December 17th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Andy Reid’s son, Garrett Reid, working as a strength and conditioning coach for the Eagles, had roids in his room when he died….in an amount that would be for more than just personal use.
God, I hope the raiders players are not using roids….and still playing this poorly!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
if your keeping knapp then trade dmac and one day he will come back and rush for 200 yards against us. If you are firing knapp then keep dmac . knapp is the biggest problem on offense but im not sure reggie has the same opinion.this blog will be on fire the day reggie announces he is retaining the coach and his staff.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
I watched that entire game for one reason only and it wasntt to watch the raiders slog to a 5 field goal snooze fest of a win over the worst team in football.
I am done with this team,
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As a fan of the Raiders, I’ll continue watching my team with Pryor or without. As a fan of Pryor only, do as you wish.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
MUST GO List:
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Khalif Barnes
Mike Brisiel [depending on contract]
Willie Smith
Richard Seymour
Dave Tollefson
Matt Giordano
December 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
FIRE THIS STAFF TODAY!!!!!
I watched that entire game and saw pryor get 3 lousy snaps?!?!?!
This cant be excused, he isnt being evaluated, he isnt being prepared in practice.
he is getting the taiwan jones treatment, why because allen didnt draft them?
Allen is the worst coach i have ever seen.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Lets trade Knapp not McFadden! He may be partially injured and his durability issues bother me but Knapp is the problem. His recent quotes about the all powerful scheme are disturbing.
Al Davis once said about schemes – I like the winning scheme!
Use the scheme don’t make yourself a cog in the scheme.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DA’s Visor,
Injury may have played a part, but I think alot of it has to do with DMC’s style. If u watch, he tends to make these extreme cuts where his body’s at prob like a 30 degree angle to the ground. That’s how he’s able to just blow past guys and bounce runs to the outside, but sometimes it also causes him to slip to the ground when the turf gives out. On a wet field that’s an even bigger issue.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I’m actually a little glad they aren’t playing TP. It’s going to cause some people on this blog to instantaneously combust or have an aneurism. The meltdowns are great.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
can we all pitch in and buy cleats for the raiders that wont slip on our home field turf. ive never seen a home team keep slipping on grass while the visitors rarely do.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
FIRE THIS STAFF TODAY!!!!!
I watched that entire game and saw pryor get 3 lousy snaps?!?!?!
This cant be excused, he isnt being evaluated, he isnt being prepared in practice.
he is getting the taiwan jones treatment, why because allen didnt draft them?
Allen is the worst coach i have ever seen.
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Maybe Pryor just isn’t very good like two coaching staffs and all 31 other teams have known since he declared for the supp draft?
December 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Allen is smart for not putting Pryor in,..dude cant complete passes in practice…hes done in a couple weeks. Allen will be back next year Mistic, so stock up on tissues now to get you through next season.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
YET PALMER CAN GO 3 AND OUT TIME AFTER TIME AND LEAD A LOUSY 4-10 RECORD AND NEVER BE BENCHED?!?!?!/!
NO WONDER THIS TEAM HATES HIS GUTS HE IS TWO FACED AND DUPLICITOUS
FIRE HIS AZZZ ALREADY
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We wondered where you were this morning. Obviously calming down and composing yourself.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hwnrdr, you and some others make it plain that Norco does hit up the parking lot at O.Co. Does he actually go inside to the game, or is that part of his fantasy life,too?
He goes inside as well! I know he has or still does talk to Amy Trask, not sure about going on the field, but not one to doubt him!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
LMAO Purvisman
December 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!
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Actually they had Pryor set up that as long as he got first downs, he was going to stay in the game. He got no first downs, so he didn’t stay in the game. Don’t blame Allen, blame Pryor.
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BULLSCHYT, T.P. was not given enough time.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Quote: “Allen is the worst coach i have ever seen.”
Then you obviously have not been a Raider fan very long. Art Shell II was way worse than this. The Bed and Breakfast offense was truely horrible and beyond anything we have seen this year. The only thing that let the Raiders win two games that year were turnovers and a decent pass defense. I suppose some pine for that team so we can get a #1 pick and find our new Jamarkus.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
DA and Mumbles can hang their hats on the fact we are better than 2 teams in the NFL…
That’s some big time achievement.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Maybe Pryor just isn’t very good like two coaching staffs and all 31 other teams have known since he declared for the supp draft?
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Racist.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
“McClain has been super productive when healthy and used properly”
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I know you corrected it and meant McFadden. But how absurd that sounds now… I mean a guy off the street played way better yesturday!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Mark can’t afford to fire DA and Reg…
He’s going to be held hostage by those committed dollars until the end.
Can’t be cheap buying up all those empty seats…
Just wait until next season when even fewer people are showing up.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Maybe Pryor just isn’t very good like two coaching staffs and all 31 other teams have known since he declared for the supp draft?
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Racist.
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How in the FVCK is this a RACIST post?
STFU idiot. Go debate with MISDICK
December 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Purv,..seeing how you have interest in me I will clue you in,..Im at every game,..row 1 seats, I have pregame sideline on the field access,…and yes Im friends with the CEO…anything else you need?
December 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
FIRE THIS STAFF TODAY!!!!!
I watched that entire game and saw pryor get 3 lousy snaps?!?!?!
This cant be excused, he isnt being evaluated, he isnt being prepared in practice.
he is getting the taiwan jones treatment, why because allen didnt draft them?
Allen is the worst coach i have ever seen
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We both knew the deal going into Sunday’s game, that Pryor would get a wildcat snap. And call it a day.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Purv,..seeing how you have interest in me I will clue you in,..Im at every game,..row 1 seats, I have pregame sideline on the field access,…and yes Im friends with the CEO…anything else you need?
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You aint got schit btch, other than a need to be somebody.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I’m telling you the Jets, Cowboys or Packers would be willing to give Raiders a 2nd Rounder for DMC.
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Not with a $6M one year contract they won’t. That would mean giving up a 2nd for a player that will either under produce for what he’s paid, or that will play up to his salary expectations and then go free agent the following season. Lose-lose for the team trading for him.
The only way he gets traded would be for another over paid player at a different position in a mutual salary cap dump. That, or agrees to restructure his contract as a contingency of being traded.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I dont have a house in Kaanapali either old kell,..
December 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Im off to Harveys to cash in that four team parlay card,..I posted my card here two days ago,…that was an easy 800 bucks on a 60 dollar card…thanks Niners!!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I dont have a house in Kaanapali either old kell,..
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No you don’t. Jerry & Cork have been trying to get rid of your dumbass for years.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
morilla Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I’m actually a little glad they aren’t playing TP. It’s going to cause some people on this blog to instantaneously combust or have an aneurism. The meltdowns are great.
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Agreed. But it’s also going to do three things that could help the Raiders in the long run:
- Not diminish his already plummeting trade value by exposing his limitations
- Maybe help convince TP that he’s not going to make it in the league at the QB position and start working on something new while still under contract with the Raiders
- Not expose him to a higher number of snaps, since he already had exceeded his range of counting in thinking that his 3 plays were actually 4
December 17th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
303.1960AutumnWind Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
The posts the last day have been surreal. I have never seen people so negative about a WIN! A win! I hope the Raiders win out. I hope the defense plays well with the new players they have found largely off the wire. Wheeler, Burris and now maybe the CB we just got may be keepers same with Hansen as a slot. Getting McClain out of there was a good thing! No leadership? Getting McClain out and then getting the defense to pitch a shutout is a reflection of leadership even if it only was KC.
I too want Knapp fired. I have wanted him fired since the game after the bye week. I just do not think he has it. However I hope the Raiders win out and go 6-10. I do not think it is that important if you are picking #3 or #8 at least I do not want to see a team tank for it.
A lot of these self professed experts clammering for Pryor were JR cheerleaders several years ago. You know who you are! Let the Coaching staff coach. Let Pryor develop. At least this year he is being coached. Your hero Hue did not even talk to him or even have a QB’s coach. That is according to a qoute from Pryor not some inudendo. I am cool seeing TP come in but only if it does not jepordize a game. Players will quit on you if you just put in inferior players and not do what it takes to win. I hope TP develops but I am realistic regarding what it will take for him to get there. It seems TP sees it himself why can’t some of you!?
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Some KC games against us rank in my personal top 5 of most anguish filled defeats.
-The MNF game when we gave up a big lead late and let Elvis Grbac hit Andre Rison for a last second TD over Terry freaking McDaniel. The look of disgust on Joe Bugel’s face still haunts me. I broke a table over that one.
-A meaningless regular season tilt at Arrowhead when Vermeil ran Larry Johnson in from the 1 yd. line as time expired was one of the biggest “fu’s” they ever gave us. He could’ve kicked a fg to force OT but when for the win…and got it. I was beside myself after that one.
Both games were reg season games but still rank up there as ones that caused me some of the most distress and anger i’ve ever had as a Raider fan.
I know it’s weird…what can i tell ya.
THAT’S how much I dislike KC, so shutting them out at home when we usually lose to them here is nice. Although i admit it didn’t feel like a true Raider/Chief matchup cuz the Chiefs are soo bad, but let’s rack up the wins against them when we have a chance. They sure as heck did it to us when we were down in the past.
That being said, I understand whee guys are coming from as far as wanting to get a high pick in the draft with the season already lost. I get it.
December 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Quote: “Allen is the worst coach i have ever seen.”
Then you obviously have not been a Raider fan very long. Art Shell II was way worse than this. The Bed and Breakfast offense was truely horrible and beyond anything we have seen this year. The only thing that let the Raiders win two games that year were turnovers and a decent pass defense. I suppose some pine for that team so we can get a #1 pick and find our new Jamarkus.
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nope
shell 2 at least had a decent defense and players i wanted to watch even though they under performed like randy moss
This team is awful on offense and defense and allen is clueless
his agenda was important than grading pryor and the draft process
FOR A 4TH WIN AGAINST THE WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL?!??!?!
FIRE HIS AZZ NOW!!!!!!!
December 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DENNIS ALLEN MUST BE FIRED AT SEASONS END!!!
Why would Pryor only get 1 chance to pass the ball? How is that in any way evaluating him or his future prospects?!?!
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Actually they had Pryor set up that as long as he got first downs, he was going to stay in the game. He got no first downs, so he didn’t stay in the game. Don’t blame Allen, blame Pryor.
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that is a retarded thing to do.
So a guy that has never set foot on a field should be pulled aftr one 3 and out?
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Not really. They put pressure on him to perform. He didn’t perform so they pulled him. That sounds like the right thing to me…
December 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DA bringing up the ” haven’t had a shutout here in 10 years”….
Should really keep that Playoff Bound Winning Team out of his mouth.
I was at that game, in a rainstorm when we ran all over KC on our way to the playoffs.
His “shutout” was handed him by a HC that eschewed FG’s for failed TD attempts on 4 th down…Bum Fight and we won, woo hoo
December 17th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
357.VanHeathen30 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DA bringing up the ” haven’t had a shutout here in 10 years”….
Should really keep that Playoff Bound Winning Team out of his mouth.
I was at that game, in a rainstorm when we ran all over KC on our way to the playoffs.
His “shutout” was handed him by a HC that eschewed FG’s for failed TD attempts on 4 th down…Bum Fight and we won, woo hoo
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I remember clearly Dick Vermeil’s presser after that game where he said something along the lines of “Guys I really don’t feel like answering any questions right now, I just got my @$$ handed to me”
Now that was priceless to hear.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
the CURSE OF THE CRACKED COLLAR BONE CONTINUES AND NOW SPANS TWO COACHES!!!!
we will never win as long as we dont have a qb!!!
Why the fugg would allen defy his mandate to play pryor?
Why didnt he increase pryors reps in practice in preparation for this?
Why did moore bartell and romac all get demoted benched or cut for performance yet palmer is untouchable?!?!/
Allen is two faced and a loser, and now he is in the tom cable catagory with me. allen doesnt want pryor, and will not even prep him to compete.
MEANWHILE MOBILE YOUNG QBS RUNNING OPTION FOOTBALL IS DOMINATING FOOTBALL.
WE HAVE ON A ROSTER DMAC AND PRYOR BOTH OF WHOM BECAME SUPERSTARS RUNING A SIMILAR SCHEME, YET ALLEN WANTS PALMER LEADING 5 FUGGN FIELD GOAL DRIVES?!?!?!
I hope after cam newton runs the raiders right out of the stadium while pryor rides the bench other than a ceremonial snap, big mack and davis come down to the locker room and whup allen’s azz!!!!
then fire him
December 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Dennis allen didnt let pryor plAy yesterday because he doesnt want terrel pryor to play. He went wayyy out of his way to inform the cbs staff that carson was his qb of the future that says it all. He has a bias against terrel, he doesnt want terrel to succeed because then he’d have a controversy on his hands and he’ll have to do what hes to stubborn to do and thats adjust his system. Kind of messed up to know no matter how hard you work, or how much you improve youll never be given a fair shake. Smh Im not surprised some guys dont want to play for this pr!©k.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DA bringing up the ” haven’t had a shutout here in 10 years”….
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Did he say that right after the game?
Well, under normal circumstances i would be really happy about shutting out KC but DA to me has this temporary Lane Kiffen vibe to me. He seems out of place w/ the Raiders. First coach we’ve ever had with a southern accent i think. He doesn’t seem to be a big Raider “traditionalist” in terms of paying homage to the good stuff from the past…He doesn’t seem “Raidery” at all; which is why i think alot of guys on this blog like him. I am not one of those persons until he shows me he can win more games.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Raider (since1967)★
You know this game save a few from ” walking the plank ”
But not all. Heads will roll soon. As for Knapp, he got lucky that Allen didn’t paint his face green and his tongue red like the
Wicket Witch of the West! Or he will be Burning like the Scarecrow on fire !
As for Mc Clain he is only good for playing the Russian roulette in jail.
And about Mc Fadden and Seymour they well, can do AFLAC COMMERCIALS !
December 17th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
..To clarify. I am NOT against DA becuz he has a southern accent or becuz he doesn’t talk about the greatness of Raider past…He was given a blank piece of paper in my opinion…free to mark up as he wished.
I judge him on how he has this team performing… period; and the decisions he makes, and how he looks and talks…and that wart on the side of his nose.
I’m fair.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
OMORON
You have a unique style that is for sure.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DA is Hanging His Hat on the shutout of a 2 win team…
He’ll also have to hang it on the 4 blow out losses in the month of November, that became the worst month of Raider football EVER!
December 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Yes the way they did T.Pryor was dead wrong.Now I Love the Raiders but,that was a joke to do that to anyone not just T.Pryor.People on this blog are saying that Pryor sucks without giving him a fair shot.Our Raiders suck because they’ve had 14 weeks.Pryor only had three snaps.Are you kidding me.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Raider ( since 1967) ★
In 2 week Reggie is bringing the Big Dump truck to put the Bad Apples! Alleluia! He is bringing Amy upfront.
2 Week Knapp will burn like a Scarecrow !!
Mc Fadden Seymour Taiwan Jones will be making -
Commercials for AFLAC !!
December 17th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Bo,..you really study the 6th round? Geez
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Yep…..All picks count!
December 17th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
there waiting to start pryor until he can get the proper coaching and that wont happen until next year when we bring in Brian Daboll to assist knapp.
December 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Raider(since 1967)★
Reggie I don’t want Boo on 1rst -Draft Pick !!
Raider’s pick—- MANTI TEO ND
Carolina 30—–Oak 24
December 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Raider (since1967)★
Jerry just graded the Raiders this week in his posting gives an A to the Defense and a C to the Offense!
Too Bad he didn’t grade Knapp. He should get an F for — – — –
December 17th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
I want to have 10 Draft pics Reggie !
Manti Teo
A — Qb ?
2 Ray Lewis Lb
2 Conerbacks
2 OF
2 DF
And Chicken Wings at —HOOTERS in the Evening !
December 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
Reggie remember. The Season is long 16 games! REGARDLESS who is back there for the other team. GIVE ME 2 pass rushers.
LOVE QUATERBACK EATING DIRT AND GIRLS IN MINI SKIRTS!
THOSE TWINS!
December 17th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
Reggie and Mark. This is my Christmas List!
Bo Jackson
Marcus Allen
Phil Villipiano
Mark van Eegan
Ted Hendricks
Jack Tatum
Ottis Sistronk
Fred Belitnikov
December 17th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Belitnikov? I think he was a Russian spy.
March 18th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
billige lån…
Notes and quotes from Raiders-Chiefs game – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group…
March 26th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
ipad tilbud…
Notes and quotes from Raiders-Chiefs game – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group…
April 10th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
자유 게시판 – 물마시는 것의 중요성과 콜라에 관한 사실…
Notes and quotes from Raiders-Chiefs game – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group…