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Notes and quotes from Raiders-Chiefs game

As it turned out, the importance of the 49ers-Patriots game Sunday night dictated double duty on my part. Therefore, I shifted from the Raiders game to the 49ers game right away, without having any time to sit in on coach Dennis Allen’s news conference or scour the locker room for notes and quotes.
For that, we turn to beat writer Jerry McDonald, who did double duty of his own in performing his regular duties, as well as holding down the blog and writing an additional story.
So, here’s a collection of notes complied by Jerry.

The much-anticipated 2012 debut of quarterback Terrelle Pryor drew cheers from a paid crowd of 51,446 at O.co Coliseum on Sunday as he trotted on to the field.

In less than two minutes, it was over.

It amounted to a three-and-out, not including a false start, and starter Carson Palmer returned and finished the game, a 15-0 win over the Kansas City Chiefs.

If the Raiders had plans to put Pryor in position to either run or pass, it never happened because they punted so quickly. After the false start, Pryor lined up behind center, handed off twice to Darren McFadden and threw incomplete intended for Darrius Heyward-Bey on third-and-7.

“We had it set at just one series,” Pryor said. “It’s just a steppingstone. I enjoyed the four plays, or whatever it was, but I was excited to get in there at least.”

Coach Dennis Allen will let game situations dictate how much time Pryor gets going forward.

“How much he plays, I don’t know the answer to that exactly, but we’ll see on a game-by-game basis,” Allen said.

Pryor said he’s fine with that plan.

“I’m a team player, and whatever they need from me I’m going to do so we can win,” Pryor said. “I love learning from (Palmer), and I wouldn’t trade it for anything else. When the time’s right, I’ll be ready.”

Pryor was on the field for exactly one snap last season — a play in which he was called for a false start — against Kansas City.

Sebastian Janikowski moved into second place on the NFL’s all-time list in field goals of 50 yards or more with two against the Chiefs. He’s tied with John Kasay with 42.

Janikowski’s miss from 51 yards was his third miss of the season, with the others coming from 61 and 64 yards.

A pigeon took up residence on the field for the pregame and virtually the entire first half, and somehow managed to avoid getting stepped on. At one point in the second quarter, right guard Mike Brisiel gave it a gentle nudge with his foot — and heard a chorus of boos from the stands.

“I’m at the line of scrimmage and that thing is in between the defensive end and the outside linebacker. I mean, that’s kind of deadly,” Brisiel said. “I didn’t kick it. I was trying to shoo it along, and then I get booed for it. Something was wrong with that thing; it was a little off, I think.”

The pigeon, which didn’t attempt to fly away, was scooped into a bucket by a member of the field crew at halftime and taken to parts unknown.

Cornerback Phillip Adams left in the second quarter with his second concussion in three games and was replaced by Brandian Ross, who played well and was cited afterward by Allen.

Cornerback Joselio Hanson intercepted a Brady Quinn pass in the second quarter to help set up a Raiders field goal.

Quinn credited crowd noise in the Black Hole at the south end of the Coliseum for resulting in a delay-of-game penalty when the Chiefs were deep in Raiders territory.

Rolando McClain, coming off a two-game suspension and demoted to second-string middle linebacker in the base defense, was inactive for the first time in his NFL career.

“I just felt like we wanted to go with some other guys and we’d have him inactive this week,” Allen said.

Kansas City’s 119 yards of total offense are the lowest total surrendered by the Raiders since San Diego gained 93 yards in the Raiders’ 6-0 win on Oct. 6, 1975. The Chiefs had minus-1 yard of total offense in the first quarter, the first time the Raiders had held a team to minus yardage in the opening quarter since 1992.

Shane Lechler’s first punt of the day was No. 1,000 for his NFL career.

Wide receiver Denarius Moore, who caught five passes for 46 yards, struggled to field punts.

Long-snapper Jon Condo was honored before the game with the Commitment to Excellence award, given to the player most worthy of excellence on and off the field as voted by his teammates.

The four sacks were a Raiders’ season high, with Philip Wheeler, Andre Carter, Desmond Bryant and Tommy Kelly getting one each.

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  • The_Judge37

    I agree this Franchise needs to clean house on this roster, but it also needs a fresh start from these coaches.

  • Marks hair

    If they somehow know that tp isnt going to develope into a qb… then change his position.. wtf dont they understand?

  • RaidingTexas

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Whatever fan wanted us to lose for draft reasons is a born loser, enjoys losing, will be a loser forever.

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    Perfectly stated.

  • The_Judge37

    Marks hair Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
    If they somehow know that tp isnt going to develope into a qb… then change his position.. wtf dont they understand?
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    Because that requires imagination

  • jesusraiderjim

    ChrisinNC Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 7:03 am
    If we win against the Panthers next week, that’s really gonna mess up our draft position. Much worse than this week’s win. We badly need a top 5 pick so we can trade down and get some picks. Winning against the Panthers could put us out of the top 10. Brilliant DA. Really.

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    No worries we will get our ARES handed to us, see what they did to the Dis-Chargers and we suck worse than they do.

  • Marks hair

    If you cant see forward to aprils draft, im sure you think ‘forever’ is a bad yr or two..

  • jesusraiderjim

    Good to see you back JFB. Need to get ya some new friends. LOL

  • The_Judge37

    You don’t change the losing culture of a Team by losing on purpose.

  • boss01

    153.RaidingTexas Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:

    Whatever fan wanted us to lose for draft reasons is a born loser, enjoys losing, will be a loser forever.

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    Perfectly stated.

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    There are others like me, who were not hoping we lose, but if it did happen, it would have offered more hope for the future by securing a higher pick. The win however brought absolutely no joy to my heart. This was the least watchable game I can remember. The only reason I tuned in was to see Pryor, and that just turned into a tease.

  • The_Judge37

    Unfortunatly Pryor’s debut went down as expected. And when it comes to this coaching debacle, is about as low of expectation as you can get.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Raider-In-PA Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 8:23 am
    This staff already knows all they want to know about Pryor. He was drafted by Al Davis, therefor he’s apparently the reason they are 4-10.
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    This staff already knows that they are cleaning house on the entire team… Like I said above, all the QBs on the roster can GTF out! DA saying that Palmer is the future is BS! He isnt ANYBODY’s future, quit wasting the fans f-ing time! I know the purging of players cant happen all at once, but damnit quit lying about what REALLY is going to happen. The staff isnt keeping Pryor, and if they had their way, Palmer wouldnt be here this year either! For all DA knows, HE might not be the future either!

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    Well, they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt. I don’t know why Hue had more success on offense than these guys ever could…I also wonder if Chief fans were saying the same thing when Scott Pioli & Todd Haley come aboard. They knew everything too.

  • MarcusAllen

    Once again this ‘team’ it’s coaches managers and owner flat out suk.

    Some win huh – cant even get a TD? The chiefs won better picks and out coached this group again.

    DA and staff f’ing suk. Art shell 2 – you’ve found your equal.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    The way it looks 3 teams in the afc west may have a top 10 pick maybe even top 8!!!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Good morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Merry Christmas, BoSchembechlerJackson! This is for you.
    Long-snapper Jon Condo was honored before the game with the Commitment to Excellence award, given to the player most worthy of excellence on and off the field as voted by his teammates.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    As much as I wanna support DA he making it hard with this not playin the younger players ever team knows when the season is over you get the young guys in there to build 4 next season and see who is worthy of being here it just baffles me that Reggie & DA hasn’t or to stubborn to figure this out!!!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    The_Judge37 Says:

    You don’t change the losing culture of a Team by losing on purpose.
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    Show me a good loser, whatever the justification, and I’ll show you a loser.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Wow, Romeo Crennel reminded me of Art Shell v2…Where did they get their WRs? LOL, balls bounding off their facemask for pete’s sake!

    DA knows if next year we can play 16 games against the Chiefs we have a shot! LOL.

    Trade DMAC! Its obvious, isnt it?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    As much as I wanna support DA he making it hard with this not playin the younger players ever team knows when the season is over you get the young guys in there to build 4 next season and see who is worthy of being here it just baffles me that Reggie & DA hasn’t or to stubborn to figure this out!!!
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    They’re not going to prove themselves wrong.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Slowlando could have covered the Chiefs WRs, man they are worse than the POS crew we got here… I was surprised they could not run the ball on us, but what do you expect form Romero Crennel?

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    I really, really don’t get why Pryor did not play more snaps. WTF do you have to loose?

    Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?

  • Raider-in-PA

    In the off season, I was kinda miffed that we didnt try to grab Peyton Hillis to replace Mike Bush… Boy am I glad we didnt now!! I cant understand how he had such a good year or two with the Brown (stains)???

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    I really, really don’t get why Pryor did not play more snaps. WTF do you have to loose?

    Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?
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    Yep.

  • VanHeathen30

    Winning the NFL version of a “Bum Fight” isn’t really winning much…glad to beat the Chiefs, too bad it didn’t affect anything more than draft position…
    I’d be stoked for 16 games that actually mattered.
    BTW: I was At the last Raider Shutout, and that game looked NOTHING lie the fiasco yesterday…

  • The_Judge37

    Raider-in-PA Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    In the off season, I was kinda miffed that we didnt try to grab Peyton Hillis to replace Mike Bush… Boy am I glad we didnt now!! I cant understand how he had such a good year or two with the Brown (stains)???
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    Madden Curse

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    DMAC should have run for some 200 yards yesterday, Goodson looked better cutting to the holes. Trade DMAC, for some reason he can’t get going here.

  • jesusraiderjim

    Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?
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    Yep.

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    If that is true 5 FG’s just seems to re-enforce that Knapp can not get this O into the end zone. YEAH!! Knapp sucks and unless this staff is ignorant or blind they gotta see it.

  • jesusraiderjim

    I thought Goodsen looked more natuaral and in the flow yesterday too.

  • The_Judge37

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    DMAC should have run for some 200 yards yesterday, Goodson looked better cutting to the holes. Trade DMAC, for some reason he can’t get going here.
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    Yes, let’s get rid of McFadden and not the guy who’s offense is one of the lowest scoring in the League.

  • The_Judge37

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am
    I thought Goodsen looked more natuaral and in the flow yesterday too.
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    Goodson runs hard, but can he run 20+ times a game? He’s a good backup, that’s about it.

  • VanHeathen30

    5 Field Goals against a team that didn’t get a 1st down until the end of the 3rd qtr is pretty bad…
    We did n’t even SNIFF the end zone AGAIN!
    This team is a MESS, top to bottom…

  • VanHeathen30

    Goodson looks GASSED after every play he runs…
    could have been the Big Hits he was taking though.
    Maybe if DA gave him a whole series, we’d know a little more about what we have in him.
    But, instead we kept our “starters” in for majority of the day to get the Season Defining WIN!

  • The_Judge37

    Carson did badly under throw one for Moore that should’ve been a TD. When one is playing well, the other isn’t. Seems like this team can’t give us a complete game unless they play like crap on both sides.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    John David Booty Says:
    December 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    Raiders #1 in YAC.

    But some want to act like we dont have offensive talent. Please.

    YAC is the most telling stat of an offensive skill players ability.

    Call the plays, plays will be made. Simple as that.

    The fact that the Raiders are #1 in YAC is even MORE of an indictment on Knapp. We should be scoring much more.

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    It’s more an indicator of great QB play. The combination of reading where the open man that will also have running room, leading the WRs so that they can catch in stride or throwing to the backside (on set plays) to get the DBs to take the wrong angle, and calling the right audibles to get the ball away from the safeties. Of course Palmer gets no credit for this.

    Some of this also comes from strategically using bubbles and screens to supplement a running game that is struggling, but of course Knapp gets no credit for that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Kirk Cousins, the wave of the future. In his first career start the 4th round rookie throws for more yards than RGIII has in his previous 12 starts.

    Kind of makes you wonder if maybe the system has anything to do with it. Also makes you wonder if there’s merit in running less and waiting for the plays to open up.

  • omoran

    Raider(since 1967)★
    You know I wasn’t completely satisfied with the ” Open a Can of whipa$$ ” I expect Superwhimp to throw 4 td passes, but no he
    Instead crawls into a hole and.” RETROGRADE / Mark says) This is not clearly Oaklands future, this is a scare Qb and a quarterback eating dirt guy..
    Never will you ever be a “Brady ” Whats wrong with this Dude he is like a Zombi, let Pryor play a whole game.Win or lose who cares, show what you got boy! He may end up been the best we ever have. !

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Somebody notice the Steelers got called for ZERO penalties in yesterday’s game vs Dallas? how is that possible? their Oline holds on every friggin play! The refs have an agenda, its obvious.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    So, #1 in YAC? we must be #1 in YAInt cause Palmer averages a Pick-6 per game.

  • Dakota

    DT Nix and LT Martin returning to ND next year.

    Some of you had talked about drafting Nix….sorry.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    On the TP debut, I think they saw exactly what they’ve been seeing in practice. No reads or audibles on the runs. A horrible read on the pass play looking to get the ball to a WR that has a DB draped all over him — and he was directly in front of him only a few yards away, not exactly hard to see the situation. Fortunately, he made a terrible throw or that might be a turnover inside his own 20.

    The best TP moment included above with this brilliant quote, “…I enjoyed the four plays, or whatever it was, but I was excited to get in there at least.” Yeah, it’s tough to keep count when the play numbers are getting up into the 3′s and 4′s. This guy is rocket scientist material for sure.

    I hope that they are going leverage this and convince him to use his skills where they are the best fit, at WR. It’s not like he has a bottleneck of All-Pros ahead of him to push through for a roster spot at this position.

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967)★

    When Am I going to see a 48- 6 win? Or a 3 consecutive shotout Games in a Row ?
    Can someone tell me when will they
    FIRE KNAPP?

  • Coach456

    Yesterday’s victory was self-serving at its finest. It appears as though Coach Allen is more concerned about saving his job with meaning less wins than improving the team. Gregg Knapps play calling or lack thereof was apparent….Again, against the hapless Chiefs. Five field goals by the team MVP and some are happy with the “W.” Pryor and Leinert should be allowed to play at this point in the season. BTW, most of those runs yesterday by McFadden and Goodson were power and trap plays and not the zbs that not work with the current offensive line. Don’t be fooled by what happened and any comments from Knapp about it takes a while – It was power and traps and not what he promotes and stakes his reputation on – What a con.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    C´mon, let Pryor play, whats the difference? If he stinks it up he will be on the level with the rest of the team. If he runs around makes plays and looks a little bit like RG3 he might have some trade value.

    Right now he has zero trade value, that cant drop.

  • Dakota

    181.VanHeathen30 Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    5 Field Goals against a team that didn’t get a 1st down until the end of the 3rd qtr is pretty bad…
    We did n’t even SNIFF the end zone AGAIN!
    This team is a MESS, top to bottom…

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Now this pathetic coaching staff has something to hang their hats on and try to justify their continued employment…..just like what Cable go away with at the end of 2008 against Tampon Bay….

  • omoran

    Raider (since 1967) ★
    It seems the more we ask for something the longer it takes and the more you hurt.
    Never tell anyone were it hurts you the most because they “ll put Salt on your Wounds.We humans are like that, the more faster you want something ,the longer it takes and one day we are good and the next day we are bad. Why?

  • oakfshow

    Reggie sucks!!

  • edward teach

    171.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
    I really, really don’t get why Pryor did not play more snaps. WTF do you have to loose?

    Maybe DA is really feeling the heat, really needed this win, otherwise why not play everybody?

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    NFL coaches routinely meet with the TV crew before any televised game. In his meeting with the CBS crew prior to the KC game, CSN BayArea reported that Allen told the crew that Palmer, not Pryor, was his QB of the future.

    Let the screeching begin.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    That Stupid azzed win, pushed the Raiders down to maybe #6 in the draft?

  • RaiderDebo

    Zymurge Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:46

    Kind of makes you wonder if maybe the system has anything to do with it.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Gee, ya think???? The “system” has just about everything to do with it! Same thing applies to New England, Green Bay and New Orleans. And for the great Redskins and 49er teams of the 80s and 90s. Made great players out of the Montanas, Youngs, Favres, Rodgers, Flynns, Bradys, Cassells and Hoyers of the world. It never has and never will be just about the QB.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Zymurge Says:
    On the TP debut, I think they saw exactly what they’ve been seeing in practice. No reads or audibles on the runs. A horrible read on the pass play looking to get the ball to a WR that has a DB draped all over him — and he was directly in front of him only a few yards away, not exactly hard to see the situation. Fortunately, he made a terrible throw or that might be a turnover inside his own 20.
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    Be fair. Pryor said he did check down from a deeper covered receiver to Myers, I think, who was doubled, and then to DHB and saw the defender closing as he was throwing and basically threw it away so as not to throw a pick. Sounds to me like what a QB should do. Had he taken off on foot, he would’ve caught heat for that, too.