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Grading the Raiders off victory over Chiefs

By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 17th, 2012 at 12:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Beat writer Jerry McDonald graded the Raiders off their 15-0 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs at the Coliseum. Here are McDonald’s grades and comments:

Pass offense

Carson Palmer played a complementary role, for once, letting the running game and the defense control the game. Palmer was 18 of 29 for 182 yards, with no touchdowns or interceptions. He was fortunate on at least two passes, forced into coverage, were not intercepted.
Grade: C-plus

Run offense

A season-high 203 yards on 45 carries, 38 of which went for positive yardage (including a late kneel-down). Darren McFadden had 110 yards on 30 carries, Mike Goodson 89 on 12 attempts and the Raiders had 10 rushing first downs while amassing a 40:06 to 19:54 advantage in time of possession.
Grade: A

Pass defense

Chiefs quarterback Brady Quinn struggled (five passing first downs), but he also faced third-and-long virtually the entire game. The Raiders kept Chiefs receivers covered for the most part, and Quinn missed the ones that were open. Joselio Hanson had his second interception of the season, and the Raiders had a season high four sacks from Philip Wheeler, Desmond Bryant, Andre Carter and Tommy Kelly.
Grade: A

Run defense

The No. 5 rushing offense in the league was held to 10 yards on 10 carries. Feature back Jamal Charles had the 10 yards, on nine attempts. Kansas City had to abandon the run as the score mounted. In two games against the Raiders, Charles had 14 yards on 14 carries.
Grade: A

Special teams
Sebastian Janikowski accounted for all the scoring with field goals of 20, 50, 57, 30 and 41 yards. He missed once from 51 yards — his third miss of the season. The only kickoff the Raiders received was a touchback. Shane Lechler punted four times for a 51.3-yard gross average and a 40.3 net. Denarius Moore looked lost on punt returns, giving way to Matt Giordano late.
Grade: B

Coaching

The Raiders clearly were ready to play, and they were by far the more crisp and efficient team on both sides of the ball. The mixed coverages and occasional blitzes flummoxed Quinn, who for reasons unknown wasn’t given the hook. No problem with the conservative offensive calls and reliance on field goals. It was the right way to play the game for a team desperate to win.
Grade: A

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  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    DID YOU MISS THIS PART? ALLEN SURE DID

    That’s the only way I can evaluate him is to play him,” McKenzie said Nov. 30
    ==========================================

    Well, yes. Of course the only way to evaluate him is to play him. But he did not say, the only way to evaluate him is to start him. He did not say when or how to play him. That is a coaches decision and McKenzie knows this. I am sure the plan was if the game got out of control either by the Raiders leading by a bunch of vice versa, Pryor would have gotten some more work in. Or as I said, if Pryor came in and excelled, I am sure they would have left him in. Neither happened. You have 53+ guys and 50,000 fans that want to win. There is where Allens allegiance SHOULD be. Not with one guy.

  • JONTRAIN

    To not have a pass option package with Pryor and Goodson to run occasionally…is inexcusable

  • Dakota

    Is deniers defense better or worse now that dennis Allen is gone?

  • VanHeathen30

    If DA wants to ‘Claim’ the 1st shutout in 10 years…
    He needs to own he 167 points given up in the month of November,
    Which is the worst 4 games in the 50+ years of Raider Football..
    Makes the alleged shutout seem perfectly worthless…

  • The_Judge37

    JONTRAIN Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    To not have a pass option package with Pryor and Goodson to run occasionally…is inexcusable
    ——–

    You must’ve just tuned in yesterday. Allow me to catch you up to Knapps offense:

    Stretch Run Left
    Stretch Run Right
    Incomplete pass Short of the Markers.
    Punt

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    He didn’t need to add the insult, but what you did say was pretty hypocritical.
    =====================================

    Why is it hypocritical?
    ——-

    You say the Raiders finally beat an opponent late in the season, regardless of opponent and it was something Hue never did.

    I bring up that They in fact did beat the same inferior opponent

    You respont with a cheap excuse. What happened to “Regardless of opponent”?
    ===========================================

    If you read carefully what I wrote, I said, we won “handily” late in the season, something Jackson never did. In the game he did win against the Cheats, it took two great plays from Seymour, and I think we can all agree that if the Raiders lost the coin flip in overtime, the Cheats most likely would have driven down the field scored and won, as they had driven down the field repeatedly prior. So, Jackson did not win that game, Richard Seymour and a coin flip did. Nothing hypocritical about it.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    See responses below

    ==========

    untrue * So you are now aribitor of truth?*

    playing pryor does not mean conceding victory.*Not playing your best player at QB is akin to throwing in the towel and being in preseason mode. Problem is you are not in preseason. Rotating in a LB or someting for a play or two is a lot different than starting your 3rd string QB.*

    Is it conceding victory when any other back up qb plays?
    * If it happens because of injury then no but to do it unilateraly to evaluate someone – not to win the game is in fact conceding something and it creates an attitude with the team.*

    then why would you say it is the case for the raiders/

    locker is on the field, henne is on the filed ponder continues to suck, are they conceding victories?
    *Ponder has tanked. CP3 has not tanked like Ponder, sorry bad analogy. The Titans also think Locker is better than the other QB as well. No one on the actual Raiders team or anyone with football knowledge thinks Pryor right now is better than CP or even ML.*

    this coach is clueless
    *Based on the all knowing Mystical one of course*

    FIRE HIS AZZ TODAY!!!!!!!
    * Fire yourself and your retreaded points*

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Bush, stop it

    palmer throwing for more than 300 yards is meaningless

    less of palmer is far better
    ===========================================

    You have no answer for my comments. Palmer would be much better with a solid running game. Every QB is. We have one of the worst running games in the league. How does that not enter the equation?

  • DutchRaider77

    51.Seymour Bush Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    DID YOU MISS THIS PART? ALLEN SURE DID

    That’s the only way I can evaluate him is to play him,” McKenzie said Nov. 30
    ==========================================

    Well, yes. Of course the only way to evaluate him is to play him. But he did not say, the only way to evaluate him is to start him. He did not say when or how to play him. That is a coaches decision and McKenzie knows this. I am sure the plan was if the game got out of control either by the Raiders leading by a bunch of vice versa, Pryor would have gotten some more work in. Or as I said, if Pryor came in and excelled, I am sure they would have left him in. Neither happened. You have 53+ guys and 50,000 fans that want to win. There is where Allens allegiance SHOULD be. Not with one guy.

    _________________________________________________________

    Exactly…

    “Is important to you to see Terrelle Pryor play before the end of the year?
    “I care because that’s the only way I can evaluate him, is to play him. Now, when he plays, how much he plays, that will be a charge to the coaching staff but, yes. We’ve got a third of the season left, and this is a good time to try to figure out what works best for him.”

  • The_Judge37

    56. 5 FG’s, with only 1 from the Red Zone, hardly makes it “Handily win”. and an in depth explination doesn’t make it any less hypocritical of a statement.

  • BOKNOWS

    Anybody else see Brandion Ross and Phillip Adams as servicable players to bring back…..?

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Miss Tick, in your first post since the game you said you were done with this team. That taking effect anytime soon?

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Dakota Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    Is deniers defense better or worse now that dennis Allen is gone?

    ******************************

    Here is another question:
    Is a defense that is built to defend passes better when playing with big leads? You can not ignore the impact of that revitialized offense for that defense.

    Need to look at the full context. Players on Denver all like DA and did a great job building the foundation they are now playing on.

    Come to think I wonder what impacts our sucky offense has on our defense when it can not run this year for the most part – yesturday’s game not standing.

  • The_Judge37

    BOKNOWS Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    Anybody else see Brandion Ross and Phillip Adams as servicable players to bring back…..?
    ——–

    As starters? No.

  • http://alswingman.blogspot.com alswingman

    I didn’t even realize the Raiders played a game on sunday. I was too busy doing nothing.

  • rediaR

    Coaching was not an A.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Pryor schooling Krapp about x and o. Become a film junkie and better play caller already than Knapp and his 20 years

  • RAIDERMAN99

    So, that’s ELEVEN straight games now without a first quarter TD ?

    We’ve got the homer, Greg Papa, aptly calling ventures inside the opposition’s 20 as excursions into the ‘Dead Zone’.

    If Gregg Krapp isn’t the worst OC in the NFL, I’d like to know who is.

    A lethal combination of insipid play-calling and inept scheming. Predictable. Boring. Ineffective.

    Case in point:

    All season long we’ve watched the Raids attempt to run the ZBS stretch ‘wide’ – and get STUFFED time after time.

    If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be almost comical.

    Yet we’ve rarely seen a reverse to try to counteract the defensive sideline pursuit.

    We haven’t seen a single option pass to loosen things up or give opposing defenses reason to pause.

    No imagination. No counter-measures. Nothing.

    Just the same boring futility and failure, over and over again.

    Trust me on this, ELEVEN straight games without a 1st quarter TD isn’t a coincidence and it can’t be blamed entirely on personnel deficiencies – it’s evidence that the OC is an INCOMPETENT LOSER.

    If Krapp is back in 2013, I won’t be.

    There’s only so much Krapp even the most diehard Raider fan can endure.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    I see both Ross and Adams as good ST / Fill ins 2nd string possibilities. Who knows maybe one can even start.

  • The_Judge37

    Anyone else have nightmares of Nick Miller when they saw Matt Giordano fielding punts?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    56. 5 FG’s, with only 1 from the Red Zone, hardly makes it “Handily win”.
    ==============================================

    3 times the yardage? over twice the TOP? A shutout? They never really had a chance. Sounds pretty handily to me. But Now you are just talking semantics.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    I think both Ross and Adams will supplant Gio

  • The_Judge37

    GG Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Pryor schooling Krapp about x and o. Become a film junkie and better play caller already than Knapp and his 20 years
    ——-

    He should’ve changed the play. If you get a 1st down they can’t yank you in the middle of a drive. Then run a no huddle.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    What does everyone here have to say about DMAC byytchin out the coach on the sideline?

    I think that reflects on knapp as well

  • The_Judge37

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    56. 5 FG’s, with only 1 from the Red Zone, hardly makes it “Handily win”.
    ==============================================

    3 times the yardage? over twice the TOP? A shutout? They never really had a chance. Sounds pretty handily to me. But Now you are just talking semantics.
    ——-

    Well it was against the Chiefs, but i guess you already bailed yourself out with the “Regardless of Opponent” thing. LOL, well played .

  • Jackie Bibby

    Fire Da now!

  • 1960AutumnWind

    So, that’s ELEVEN straight games now without a first quarter TD ?

    ***********************
    That is damming on Knapp also the poor 3rd Qtr performance. This means he is not making adjustments and not able to find weaknesses in the other team very well. That is on the OC.

  • The_Judge37

    Jackie Bibby Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Fire Da now!
    ——–

    Fire Da whole staff now!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    That was the toilet bowl yesterday.. sponsored by Charmin toilet paper

  • bunk moorland

    There should be a rule that in no way are gregg knapp and brian daboll aloud to coach against eachover.

  • The_Judge37

    Greg Knapp is the only dead horse that cannot be beaten enough.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    1960AutumnWind, are you new to the blog or just been away for a while and are unfamiliar with mistics cause?

  • nycraider

    pryor will never get a chance. he has pictures of DA topless

  • Jackie Bibby

    The_Judge37 Says: December 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Jackie Bibby Says: December 17th, 2012 at 1:57 pm Fire Da now! ——–

    Fire Da whole staff now!
    ……………………………………………..

    That works too.

  • poprox13

    Why would the coaching staff get an A? We scored 0 Touchdowns???

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    DID YOU MISS THIS PART? ALLEN SURE DID

    That’s the only way I can evaluate him is to play him,” McKenzie said Nov. 30
    ==========================================

    Well, yes. Of course the only way to evaluate him is to play him. But he did not say, the only way to evaluate him is to start him. He did not say when or how to play him. That is a coaches decision and McKenzie knows this. I am sure the plan was if the game got out of control either by the Raiders leading by a bunch of vice versa, Pryor would have gotten some more work in. Or as I said, if Pryor came in and excelled, I am sure they would have left him in. Neither happened. You have 53+ guys and 50,000 fans that want to win. There is where Allens allegiance SHOULD be. Not with one guy.
    ==================

    more hero worshiping bullshidd!!!!

    pulling a qb after 1 3 and out is not evaluating him.

    Any qb will tell yuo doing such a thing is only setting the qb up to fail.

    he should be able to practice with the first team, than play in the game without having to worry about a turn over or a 3 and out sending him to the bench.

    ALLEN IS A LIAR AND NEEDS TO BE CANNED

    FIRE HIS AZZ!!!!!

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Fire Allen, Fire Knapp!!!

  • RockinRaider

    Allen: “Yo, Reg? TP still doesn’t look like he’s going to cut it as a qb. I’m thinking of putting him in early, see if he can get anything going. See what we got.”

    Reg: “He looks lost in practice. Why even put him out there?”

    Allen: “If he looks mediocre, might be able to get something from him in a trade.”

    Reg: “If he sucks, we won’t get anything for him. Give him a series. If he moves the chains, it raises his value. If he doesn’t move the chains, yank him. If he can’t move the chains in practice, not sure why you think he will during a game.”

    Some of you can’t grasp this, for some reason.

    THE COACHES SEE HIM PLAY EVERY DAY IN PRACTICE. THE FACT HE JUST SUITED UP SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
    Of course, many of you refuse to see the obvious, painful as it is.

  • RockinRaider

    DA is going no where.
    Reg is going no where.
    CP is going no where.
    And TP is very likely going elsewhere.

    Now quit your damn crying like little girls.

  • nycraider

    man i miss bartell, i was looking forward to him getting his first int since 2008. remember the reggie lovers said how bartell and spencer were an improvement from our secondary last year and were a great value.

  • The_Judge37

    THE COACHES SEE HIM PLAY EVERY DAY IN PRACTICE. THE FACT HE JUST SUITED UP SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
    Of course, many of you refuse to see the obvious, painful as it is.
    ——-

    I’m not even really in favor of Prior, but At the begining of the Year, this Coaching staff Thought Alex Parsons should have a legitament competition with Stephen Wiznewski. Tells you all you need to know as far as their personel management skills go.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RockinRaider Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Allen: “Yo, Reg? TP still doesn’t look like he’s going to cut it as a qb. I’m thinking of putting him in early, see if he can get anything going. See what we got.”

    Reg: “He looks lost in practice. Why even put him out there?”

    Allen: “If he looks mediocre, might be able to get something from him in a trade.”

    Reg: “If he sucks, we won’t get anything for him. Give him a series. If he moves the chains, it raises his value. If he doesn’t move the chains, yank him. If he can’t move the chains in practice, not sure why you think he will during a game.”

    Some of you can’t grasp this, for some reason.

    THE COACHES SEE HIM PLAY EVERY DAY IN PRACTICE. THE FACT HE JUST SUITED UP SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
    Of course, many of you refuse to see the obvious, painful as it is.
    ============

    no

    that is only how it played out in your mind

    pryor already said before the game he DID NOT RECEIVE ANY EXTRA PRACTICE REPS

    they have not seen in practice other than the scout team

    allen is clueless

    FIRE HIS AZZ ALREADY!!!!!

  • nycraider

    RockinRaider Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    Allen: “Yo, Reg? TP still doesn’t look like he’s going to cut it as a qb. I’m thinking of putting him in early, see if he can get anything going. See what we got.”

    Reg: “He looks lost in practice. Why even put him out there?”

    Allen: “If he looks mediocre, might be able to get something from him in a trade.”

    Reg: “If he sucks, we won’t get anything for him. Give him a series. If he moves the chains, it raises his value. If he doesn’t move the chains, yank him. If he can’t move the chains in practice, not sure why you think he will during a game.”

    Some of you can’t grasp this, for some reason.

    THE COACHES SEE HIM PLAY EVERY DAY IN PRACTICE. THE FACT HE JUST SUITED UP SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
    Of course, many of you refuse to see the obvious, painful as it is.
    ——————-
    how many snaps does Pryor get in practice with the first team in practice? Any? yeah these coaches and gm havent been wrong before right? they cut their best corner in pat lee, the corner they brought in to be our number 1 was recently cut, marcel reece must have had a good practice week in week 10 bc thats when he got his first carry. they done a great job destroying an OL which was our strength last year. yep, your right , no way this crew could be wrong about Pryor

  • bunk moorland

    RockinRaider Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    Allen: “Yo, Reg? TP still doesn’t look like he’s going to cut it as a qb. I’m thinking of putting him in early, see if he can get anything going. See what we got.”

    Reg: “He looks lost in practice. Why even put him out there?”

    Allen: “If he looks mediocre, might be able to get something from him in a trade.”

    Reg: “If he sucks, we won’t get anything for him. Give him a series. If he moves the chains, it raises his value. If he doesn’t move the chains, yank him. If he can’t move the chains in practice, not sure why you think he will during a game.”

    Some of you can’t grasp this, for some reason.

    THE COACHES SEE HIM PLAY EVERY DAY IN PRACTICE. THE FACT HE JUST SUITED UP SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
    Of course, many of you refuse to see the obvious, painful as it is.——————————————————————————————–

    So your saying if you suck in practice you dont play , but if you practice good, and in games you are the worst fvcking right gaurd to ever lace’em up , you keep your starting position?

  • RaiderDirt

    Cool DA you proved that you can out coach a struggling coordinator posing as a head coach leading a horrific team good for you DA, but this team has more needs then your personal Scooby snacks on the field.. My hopes is that Reggie Mac has a plan to one and this has to be a must in order to keep majority fan base in interest an nit jumping ship on this franchise ….Cut freaking ties and FIRE Knapp!!!(I was there at the game yesterday I can see on the sidelines how the players was so upset wit he’s play callin and the offensive staff in whole was hearing it from the players) it’s simple dude gotta go ,bring in a more productive & player friendly OC .. As I been saying loose out the remaining two games , hold on to a #4 or #6 draft spot ..trade down to STL for there #15 & one of there 2nd round picks ..continue what they have been doing by making there cuts , trades & FA pick ups.. Rebuild!!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    oN SUNDAY THE RAIDERS AND THE HOME CROWD WILL GET A FACE FULL OF CAM NEWTON AND THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!!

    I want to see what happens when newton turn out the lights at oco and carson leads us to another mind bending turnover filled loss.

    THEN WILL BIG MACK TELL ALLEN TO PLAY PRYOR?!?!

    allen and knapp are going to look like bigger jokes than they already do when cam and the read option hybrid offense clean house, and our read option wizards damc and pryor never see the field together.

    ALLEN COMMITTED THE ULTIMATE TREASON AGAINST THE RAIDER NATION AND FLIPPED BIG MACK AND DAVIS THE BIRD!!

    FIRE HIS AZZ TODAY!!!!!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    The_Judge37 Says:
    Anyone else have nightmares of Nick Miller when they saw Matt Giordano fielding punts?
    =====================================================

    I thought Nick was fast with questionable hands, and Gio just the opposite.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    even former nfl players that work for local media are demanding to see pryor. romo and lo neal.

    ALLEN FAILED TO PREP HIM AND GET HIM IN THE GAME FOR ANYTHING MEANINGFUL!!

    HE MUST BE FIRED THIS INSTANT!!!

  • RockinRaider

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    DID YOU MISS THIS PART? ALLEN SURE DID

    That’s the only way I can evaluate him is to play him,” McKenzie said Nov. 30
    ==========================================

    Well, yes. Of course the only way to evaluate him is to play him. But he did not say, the only way to evaluate him is to start him. He did not say when or how to play him. That is a coaches decision and McKenzie knows this. I am sure the plan was if the game got out of control either by the Raiders leading by a bunch of vice versa, Pryor would have gotten some more work in. Or as I said, if Pryor came in and excelled, I am sure they would have left him in. Neither happened. You have 53+ guys and 50,000 fans that want to win. There is where Allens allegiance SHOULD be. Not with one guy.
    ==================

    more hero worshiping bullshidd!!!!

    pulling a qb after 1 3 and out is not evaluating him.

    Any qb will tell yuo doing such a thing is only setting the qb up to fail.

    he should be able to practice with the first team, than play in the game without having to worry about a turn over or a 3 and out sending him to the bench.

    ALLEN IS A LIAR AND NEEDS TO BE CANNED

    FIRE HIS AZZ!!!!!
    ======================
    You don’t follow football, do you?
    It’s obvious you don’t have a clue.

    Let me help.

    A player who’s listed 3rd in the depth charts? Might sniff a play, here and there. Maybe. If he does get a sniff, and doesn’t do anything to keep sniffing? Coach does what he’s supposed to do. Rotate him out.
    Next game, maybe give that player, few others a sniff. See how they handle it. Unless they shine, changes are rotated out. Maybe after a play. Or a series.
    Many don’t even get a sniff the whole year.

    the coach doesn’t owe any player anything. He does what’s right for the team.

    YOU ARE THINKING OF WHEN AL WAS IN CHARGE. AL WOULD RATHER LOSE TRYING TO PROVE RUSSELL WAS A GOOD DRAFT PICK…oh, my bad. I meant Al would have left TP in, because he hates looking the fool, until everyone on the planet knew TP (Russell) was a bust, and had no choice but to yank him.
    Thankfully Al isn’t making those decisions.

    Lucky for you, however, because now? Right now? You would be making excuses why TP looked so awful.

    Don’t you feel better? You can keep your hallow dream that a guy who all the coaches feel isn’t ready is in fact a super star.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    more hero worshiping bullshidd!!!!

    pulling a qb after 1 3 and out is not evaluating him.

    Any qb will tell yuo doing such a thing is only setting the qb up to fail.

    he should be able to practice with the first team, than play in the game without having to worry about a turn over or a 3 and out sending him to the bench.

    ALLEN IS A LIAR AND NEEDS TO BE CANNED

    FIRE HIS AZZ!!!!!
    =============================================

    While some of this I would agree with, you neglected to address the point about the other 53+ players, dozens of organizational staff and 50,000 people that all want to win, not just watch one player go three and out.