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The trick for Raiders is doing it again

With the grand vision of a team that relies on a strong running game and a stout defense finally coming into focus, Raiders coach Dennis Allen contemplated the next step Monday.

Doing it again.

A 15-0 win in their final home game against the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday was nice, but a similar effort on the road against Carolina would be an important next step.

“It’s just like I’ve been saying since Day 1 _ we’ve got to be more consistent at it,’’ Allen said at his weekly press briefing. “We’ve proven we can do it at times, but we’ve got to be more consistent at it. That will be our challenge moving forward.’’

At 4-10, the Raiders finish the season at Carolina and San Diego, both currently 5-9. Not in the NFL’s upper echelon, but not the 2-12 Chiefs, either.

With the Raiders defense taking a beating this season, Allen was protective of the perception that the result wasn’t as impressive given the level of competition.

“It’s tough to shut out anybody in this league,’’ Allen said. “For us to go out there and do that _ it’s the first time it’s been done in this organization for 10 years _ I think that was critical for our defense.’’

The shutout was the first since the Raiders blanked the Chiefs 24-0 in a rainstorm to close out the 2002 season with an 11-5 record. Allen also noted the 119 yards of total offense surrendered was the least given up by the Raiders since 1975, and pointed out that they gave up 10 yards on the ground to a team that came in ranked fifth in the league in rushing.

“I think that was a good confidence-builder,’’ Allen said. “Now we have to build on that.’’

– The Raiders gave the players the day off Monday, with the team beginning preparations for Carolina on Wednesday.

– Defensive end Andre Carter had his second sack and played 32 of 44 snaps, his highest percentage of the season. He was credited with five quarterback hits by the coaching staff.
Carter joined the Raiders Sept. 26 as a free agent after a Pro Bowl season with the Patriots last season that ended with a torn quadriceps that required surgery.

“He’s a lot closer (to top form) than he was, and he’s only going to get better,’’ Allen said. “He’s been a great addition for us, not only on the field, but in the locker room, in the classroom. He’s been good to have and I expect him to continue to get better.’’

– With Denarius Moore struggling to field punts against the Chiefs and Phillip Adams undergoing the NFL concussion protocol for the second time in three weeks, it’s not known who will return punts against the Panthers.

Allen said Moore had trouble finding the ball against the left-footed Dustin Colquitt, who averaged 54.7 yards per punt with a 51.7 net.

“Hopefully he’ll learn from it and we’ll move on,’’ Allen said.

He said other options were safety Matt Giordano and cornerback and special teams player Coye Francies.

– Wide receiver Juron Criner will be evaluated Wednesday after playing eight snaps against Kansas City before injuring his hip. Same goes for safety Mike Mitchell (neck) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), who looked on pace to play against Kansas City before a Friday setback.

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  • Just Fire Baby

    I would not trade him for a 4th round pick alone, BUT, if we somehow package something and get extra picks in the 2nd and/or 3rd round and get a beast RB, then just schlepp him off for whatever we can get.

    Injuries, dropped passes, fumbles, etc. Not worth whatever the heck we are paying him next season.

    I guess the other side of the coin is just letting him walk eventually and getting the sup pick for him, but we are talking 2015 draft if so.

  • bcz24

    1497.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:20 am
    The Chiefs have been about the only team run more poorly than us.

    Whatever they want to do, we need to pull a Constanza-like opposite approach.

    Whoever they want to hire, I don’t want them. Whoever they fire, would be a great hire.
    *****
    Doesn’t it figure that Al dies the year BEFORE guys like Pioli or Polian are available.

  • Just Fire Baby

    He misinterpreted that they were going worst to first on that one.

    ********************************

    Makes you real confident to have him look over your lending agreement doesn’t it?

  • bcz24

    Dmac will account for just shy of 9mill towards the cap next year… There is the possibility that he gets a new contract this offseason with more reasonable numbers.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Mush, you are Constanza.

    By the way I hear you made an azz of yourself at the game.

    It seems you have an inability to handle your booze as well as your wife.

    Just Win Baby.

  • RaidingTexas

    Bcz24 Says:

    But Reece, a WR converted to FB playing RB WAS effective in Knapp’s offense, Goodson is effective, even and undrafted rookie in Stewart has been productive… why can’t dmac do it? So is it really the system or is it the back

    ————————————–

    Dmac doesn’t keep his legs moving when he’s hit or trying to push through the line. He falls down. Sometimes he just falls down when nobody touches him. Look at his first touch on Sunday.

    Did you see Goodson though? I remember one play where he hit traffic about two yards past the LOS, but his wheels were spinning furiously. Next thing you know he pushes through the defenders and turns that 2 yard gain into a 9 yard gain.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    bcz24 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Admittedly, not a good year for DMAC (most troubling to me has been some surprising drops) – but I blame the overall down year and futility on the Krapp factor more than anything else.
    ******
    But Reece, a WR converted to FB playing RB WAS effective in Knapp’s offense, Goodson is effective, even and undrafted rookie in Stewart has been productive… why can’t dmac do it? So is it really the system or is it the back
    =======================================

    It’s the back. If we could get a 4th rounder for him, take it. And it’s not just that he doesn’t bring value. He also costs a lot. For very limited production in both the running and passing game. McFadden historically will have an other wordly game, followed by five very mediocre games, followed by a season ending injury. Time to move on.

  • bcz24

    No QB in the NFL has been sacked more than Rodgers, and they havent had a 100 yard rusher since Favre was their QB, did Kell really say they have the second best OL in the NFL?

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    bcz24 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
    Admittedly, not a good year for DMAC (most troubling to me has been some surprising drops) – but I blame the overall down year and futility on the Krapp factor more than anything else.
    ******
    But Reece, a WR converted to FB playing RB WAS effective in Knapp’s offense, Goodson is effective, even and undrafted rookie in Stewart has been productive… why can’t dmac do it? So is it really the system or is it the back
    ———————
    I like Reece but I believe the reason he had success along with Stewart running the ball was mainly becuase teams weren’t giving them the respect they give McFadden hence focusing more on there pass defense. Also some of there decent yards came at times when the games was well at hand. Just sayin

  • DJ Johnny

    Unlike 90% of this blog I will admit if i’m wrong about this, but I believe the ZBS is going OUT next season.

    They will be voting at the owners meeting to eliminate the blocking below the waist. With the trend in the league to do everything possible to limit injuries and the focus on player safety, the trend is that they will vote to ban those type of blocks.

    Such a ban would render the ZBS as an un-viable option as a scheme.

    If that’s all that Knapp knows, as he says himself, then what sense would it be to keep him?

    This has repurcussions as to which players we draft or acquire…and currently have on our roster.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Dmac doesn’t keep his legs moving when he’s hit or trying to push through the line. He falls down. Sometimes he just falls down when nobody touches him. Look at his first touch on Sunday.
    =========================================

    Look at his 180 other carries this year too, and you will see the same thing. He goes down if someone breathes on him.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    bcz24 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am

    No QB in the NFL has been sacked more than Rodgers, and they havent had a 100 yard rusher since Favre was their QB, did Kell really say they have the second best OL in the NFL?
    ==============================================

    Yeah, but that was before his third nap of the day. Then he got up grouchy, had a shot of “courage juice” and fell back asleep again.

  • bcz24

    Last year, before the Lisfranc, Dmac was seeking out contact. He was trying to lay the wood on defenders. This year I have only seen it once, it was Sunday and he really put a pounding on… wait for it… Javier Arenas. The smallest damn guy in the NFL. WEAKSAUCE

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Reggie and the coaching staff instructed Dmac to avoid contact and to run out of bounds whenever possible.

    Dmac ran fierce in Hue’s offense.

    Reggie’s regime neutered the entire offense, one of last season’s most potent offenses, and it’s best player.

    What will Reggie do in year two?

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Dmac ran fierce in Hue’s offense.
    ====================================

    True, until he disappeared for the remaining 9 games with an injury no one seemed to be able to diagnose.

    “He should be back practicing this week…” Hue Jackson Nov-Dec 2011

  • VanHeathen30

    DMac sees this team for what it is and is playing like he’s making “Buisness Deciscions”…
    Looking at the CRAP, oops i meant Knapp, Offense, can anyone blame him? I mean the stretch playover and over going nowhere gets old quick.

  • RaidingTexas

    DJ Johnny Says:

    They will be voting at the owners meeting to eliminate the blocking below the waist. With the trend in the league to do everything possible to limit injuries and the focus on player safety, the trend is that they will vote to ban those type of blocks.

    ——————————————–

    You’re confusing zone blocking with cut blocking. You can run ZBS without cut blocks. ZBS isn’t going away.

    Look at Goodson’s big run from Sunday. Nobody was blocking below the waist. If they completely eliminate below-waist blocking (it’s already illegal if the defender is engaged with someone else), then the guys who can’t figure it out will be weeded out of the system.

  • boss01

    1514.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:42 am
    Reggie and the coaching staff instructed Dmac to avoid contact and to run out of bounds whenever possible.

    Dmac ran fierce in Hue’s offense.

    Reggie’s regime neutered the entire offense, one of last season’s most potent offenses, and it’s best player.

    What will Reggie do in year two?

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

    ==================

    I think Knapp is mostly responsible for that. And since DA doesnt know jack about offense, he entrusted this twit to screw everything up. DA is not a HC, he is a coordinator. In 20 years the only real HC we’ve had is Gruden. The rest, all coordinators. Even Hue.

  • Marks hair

    Brokeback mountin is killing me..

  • VanHeathen30

    Reggie couldn’t hire a Real Head Coach type,
    the authority inherent in the job would have threatened Reggies fragile grip on this job…

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Admittedly, not a good year for DMAC (most troubling to me has been some surprising drops) – but I blame the overall down year and futility on the Krapp factor more than anything else.
    ******
    But Reece, a WR converted to FB playing RB WAS effective in Knapp’s offense, Goodson is effective, even and undrafted rookie in Stewart has been productive… why can’t dmac do it? So is it really the system or is it the back
    =======================================

    It’s the back. If we could get a 4th rounder for him, take it. And it’s not just that he doesn’t bring value. He also costs a lot. For very limited production in both the running and passing game. McFadden historically will have an other wordly game, followed by five very mediocre games, followed by a season ending injury. Time to move on.

    =============================================
    Nope. It’s the system.

    Amazing how quickly some people forget what an oustanding year DMAC was having before the Lisfranc.

    Reese is a fine player, but he’s not anywhere near the RB DMAC is.

    Goodson has good speed and shows flashes, but he’s got durability concerns and has had ball security issues. Kudos to him for not coughing it up this year.

    Neither Reese or Goodson at their best can bring it like DMAC does at his best.

    I look at a player that’s being considered as trade bait or possibly just being dumped due to salary and then I ask myself ‘is this a guy that I would worry about facing down the line’ ?

    DMAC is a guy I wouldn’t want to face.

    He’s good. The system sucks.

    Other players you can throw out like trash and not worry about them haunting you. Bcz they stink.

    JaMoron. Slowlando. Jason Cantball.

    Keep DMAC.
    Scrap Krapp.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    True that, VH.

  • The_Judge37

    1520.VanHeathen30 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am
    Reggie couldn’t hire a Real Head Coach type,
    the authority inherent in the job would have threatened Reggies fragile grip on this job…
    —–

    Rookie owner hires rookie GM, who hires Rookie HC, who hires rookie DC and might as well be rookie OC

  • The_Judge37

    Keep DMAC.
    Scrap Krapp

    ^ THIS!

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Reggie fired some of the most reputable scouts in the NFL without even a conversation.

    I wonder why?

  • The_Judge37

    1525.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:01 am
    Reggie fired some of the most reputable scouts in the NFL without even a conversation.

    I wonder why?
    ————

    Well considering our roster over the past decade, i don’t know how reputable they were.

  • Marks hair

    Dmac looks slower this yr too.. last yr we lead th league in plays over 20yds.. this yr we lead the nfl in yds after the catch.. krapp krapp krapp

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Nope. It’s the system.
    ======================================

    Then why are all the other backs, every single one, more productive? It can’t be the system.

  • Marks hair

    Your all fired!!!

  • The_Judge37

    1528.Seymour Bush Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Nope. It’s the system.
    ======================================

    Then why are all the other backs, every single one, more productive? It can’t be the system.
    ——-

    So let’s scrap our best RB for a mediocre system?

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Shame on Mark Davis.

    Mark began his career with arguably one of the WORST TRADES in NFL history followed up with an unmitigated disaster of a GM hire.

    The best thing the Donkeys did was cut bait with McDaniels sooner rather than later.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • Marks hair

    Everybodys fired for christmas hooray!!!

  • hwnrdr

    It’s like someone said months ago…stop arguing with someone elses opinions…because that is what they are!
    We all should be pi**ed of what we became this year, but look at the roster that Reggie was dealt. Everyone says, oh, Harbaugh came in and took the Niners to the Championship game, blah blah blah…but again, look at who they drafted and picked up during FA.
    Come on guys, it’s always hard to be a Raider Fan, but it is what makes us stronger and the only NATION!!!

  • The_Judge37

    The best thing the Donkeys did was cut bait with McDaniels sooner rather than later.
    ——-

    Exactly, they gave him an extra year and he only did more damage. Time to recognize a mistake and cut your losses

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Let’s scrap our best running back for a system the Donkies made famous???

    It is Donkey ball.

  • Marks hair

    There’s downhill runners and there’s cut back runners guess which one dmac is??

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    The only way I can forgive Mark Davis is if he fires Reggie on Christmas.

    Just Win Baby.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Dmac looks slower this yr too..
    =================================
    He very well might have lost a step.

    Here’s the thing about DMAC that a lot of people don’t understand…

    DMAC’s top end speed is very good. Better than most backs. But he’s not a pure burner or a back that has that electrifying ‘extra gear’ that just blows people away and leaves them in the dust.

    No, DMAC’s running strength is his incredible first steps and initial burst. He’s a guy that will explode through a hole.

    He’s not a guy whose strength is floating and waiting for a hole to open.

    His game is to hit a gap as quickly as possible and flash through it.

    Krapp is too dumb to see this and too stubborn to put DMAC in a position to do what he does best.

    Keep DMAC
    Scrap Krapp.

  • DJ Johnny

    1533.hwnrdr Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
    It’s like someone said months ago…stop arguing with someone elses opinions…because that is what they are!
    We all should be pi**ed of what we became this year, but look at the roster that Reggie was dealt. Everyone says, oh, Harbaugh came in and took the Niners to the Championship game, blah blah blah…but again, look at who they drafted and picked up during FA.
    Come on guys, it’s always hard to be a Raider Fan, but it is what makes us stronger and the only NATION!!!

    I don’t recall a season so absent of any good news that made me personally excited, i can’t speak for you guys.

    Which reminds me that i’ve sent Hub Arkush two e-mails now asking for clarification on the Gruden thing and he has yet to respond. In the past he has. I have talked with him on the phone a couple times due to his association with the radio station i worked for a few yr’s ago. and we have e-mailed back and forth in the past as well. He at least pretends he remembers me Lol. He’s probably irritated about being questioned about “Gruden Gate”.

  • DJ Johnny

    1519.Marks hair Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am
    Brokeback mountin is killing me..

    Yeah. I didn’t like that movie either.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:04 am
    1525.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:01 am
    Reggie fired some of the most reputable scouts in the NFL without even a conversation.

    I wonder why?
    ————

    Well considering our roster over the past decade, i don’t know how reputable they were.

    —-

    +1 Point

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Then why are all the other backs, every single one, more productive? It can’t be the system.
    ===============================================
    If it’s not the system explain how the Raids went from being one of the better running teams in the NFL to dead last in rushing.

    If you think those ZBS stretch runs are working or that the Raider run game has been productive, you need to choose another sport to analyze.

    Even if Reese and Goodson have been ‘more productive’ than DMAC in Krapp’s system it doesn’t mean that they’re better players.

    It certainly doesn’t mean that the system is any good.

    The erradication of a once formidable ground game is proof that just the opposite is true.

    And please don’t come back now with the ‘system works for the Texans’ mantra.

    We’re not the Texans.

    Krapp’s job is to use the players already in Oakland correctly, maximize what you already have.

    Getting a little sick and tired of hearing that absurd ‘it works in Houston’ rationale as a justification for destroying the Raid run game and seeing those stretch runs stuffed for no gain over and over again.

    Refreakendiculous.

  • stablersbeard

    “Why does everyone keep talking about trading McFadden?

    CBS during the game stated he was a FA at year end. If true, can’t trade him.”
    ++++++++++++

    He’s a FA in 2014. Has one year left at $5.8m

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Good Morning, Raider Nation! It,s a beautiful(sunny and freezing here) day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?

  • The_Judge37

    1542. Like Knapp said himself, he doesn’t know why the Raiders decided to change up the offensive scheme that worked, but he can only teach what he barley knows.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Donkey ball.

  • stablersbeard

    Here’s a question…

    Do you change a scheme to fit your RB, who will probably miss 6 or 7 games a season, or do you go with the back that looks more comfortable in the scheme?

    That’s what the FO will be looking at.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Any one else been having trouble with this site hanging when reloading the last several evenings? 1500 posts not the problem. Right now it reloads in a couple of seconds or less on DSL, but the last 4-5 evenings it’s been hit and miss; mostly miss.

  • dr_robert

    does anyone else feel missdick’s sanity is on the line this week?

    is it his legacy game?

  • boss01

    It’s only year one. Knapp needs till year two for his genius offensive tactics he is teaching to sink in. In year two we will get to see an offensive explosion. Just be patient and have some perspective. Can’t wait for that year two offensive leap in production.