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The trick for Raiders is doing it again

With the grand vision of a team that relies on a strong running game and a stout defense finally coming into focus, Raiders coach Dennis Allen contemplated the next step Monday.

Doing it again.

A 15-0 win in their final home game against the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday was nice, but a similar effort on the road against Carolina would be an important next step.

“It’s just like I’ve been saying since Day 1 _ we’ve got to be more consistent at it,’’ Allen said at his weekly press briefing. “We’ve proven we can do it at times, but we’ve got to be more consistent at it. That will be our challenge moving forward.’’

At 4-10, the Raiders finish the season at Carolina and San Diego, both currently 5-9. Not in the NFL’s upper echelon, but not the 2-12 Chiefs, either.

With the Raiders defense taking a beating this season, Allen was protective of the perception that the result wasn’t as impressive given the level of competition.

“It’s tough to shut out anybody in this league,’’ Allen said. “For us to go out there and do that _ it’s the first time it’s been done in this organization for 10 years _ I think that was critical for our defense.’’

The shutout was the first since the Raiders blanked the Chiefs 24-0 in a rainstorm to close out the 2002 season with an 11-5 record. Allen also noted the 119 yards of total offense surrendered was the least given up by the Raiders since 1975, and pointed out that they gave up 10 yards on the ground to a team that came in ranked fifth in the league in rushing.

“I think that was a good confidence-builder,’’ Allen said. “Now we have to build on that.’’

– The Raiders gave the players the day off Monday, with the team beginning preparations for Carolina on Wednesday.

– Defensive end Andre Carter had his second sack and played 32 of 44 snaps, his highest percentage of the season. He was credited with five quarterback hits by the coaching staff.
Carter joined the Raiders Sept. 26 as a free agent after a Pro Bowl season with the Patriots last season that ended with a torn quadriceps that required surgery.

“He’s a lot closer (to top form) than he was, and he’s only going to get better,’’ Allen said. “He’s been a great addition for us, not only on the field, but in the locker room, in the classroom. He’s been good to have and I expect him to continue to get better.’’

– With Denarius Moore struggling to field punts against the Chiefs and Phillip Adams undergoing the NFL concussion protocol for the second time in three weeks, it’s not known who will return punts against the Panthers.

Allen said Moore had trouble finding the ball against the left-footed Dustin Colquitt, who averaged 54.7 yards per punt with a 51.7 net.

“Hopefully he’ll learn from it and we’ll move on,’’ Allen said.

He said other options were safety Matt Giordano and cornerback and special teams player Coye Francies.

– Wide receiver Juron Criner will be evaluated Wednesday after playing eight snaps against Kansas City before injuring his hip. Same goes for safety Mike Mitchell (neck) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), who looked on pace to play against Kansas City before a Friday setback.

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  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    How many zone blocking teams have won the Super Bowl?

  • The_Judge37

    1547.stablersbeard Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    Here’s a question…

    Do you change a scheme to fit your RB, who will probably miss 6 or 7 games a season, or do you go with the back that looks more comfortable in the scheme?

    That’s what the FO will be looking at.
    ——-

    I vote change the scheme that has proven to be even more unsuccessfull the following years

  • dr_robert

    prediction:

    newton 13/25 190 yards 1 td 2 int’s 45 yards rushing 1 td

    pryor 1/4 9 yards 13 yards rushing

  • The_Judge37

    1551.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
    How many zone blocking teams have won the Super Bowl?
    —–

    One i think, and the only two teams running it now besides us were on that Donkey staff

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    DJ Johnny Says: “Gruden Gate”

    And the riders of Gondor and the Rohirem passed through Gruden Gate at dawn.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Pure Donkey ball.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Rohirrim

  • DJ Johnny

    1549.dr_robert Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    does anyone else feel missdick’s sanity is on the line this week?

    is it his legacy game?

    He’s a great Raiders fan. He says he “can’t wait” to see Cam Newton blow out the Raiders.

    We know what he cares about above all else, and it isn’t the success of the Raiders.

  • The_Judge37

    The good thing about ZBS is that you can plug in any RB, except that Shanahanigens teams were never any good once TD and Portis were gone.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    The thing you guys dont understand is just about EVERY team runs some ZBS along with the man scheme.

    At the end of the day, players win not schemes.

  • DJ Johnny

    1555.Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    DJ Johnny Says: “Gruden Gate”

    And the riders of Gondor and the Rohirem passed through Gruden Gate at dawn.

    Lol. Good one.

  • The_Judge37

    1560.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    The thing you guys dont understand is just about EVERY team runs some ZBS along with the man scheme.

    At the end of the day, players win not schemes.
    ———

    Does every team also only have two running plays?

    Stretch Left
    Stretch Right

  • DennisAllensVisor

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am
    1560.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    The thing you guys dont understand is just about EVERY team runs some ZBS along with the man scheme.

    At the end of the day, players win not schemes.
    ———

    Does every team also only have two running plays?

    Stretch Left
    Stretch Right

    —-

    Can only call plays that players are capable of executing right..

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    dr_robert Says:
    does anyone else feel missdick’s sanity is on the line this week?
    is it his legacy game?
    =======================================================

    Miss Tick’s legacy is writ large and bold, and forever recorded in these hallowed halls.

  • Gdog

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Dmac looks slower this yr too..
    =================================
    He very well might have lost a step.

    Here’s the thing about DMAC that a lot of people don’t understand…

    DMAC’s top end speed is very good. Better than most backs. But he’s not a pure burner or a back that has that electrifying ‘extra gear’ that just blows people away and leaves them in the dust.

    No, DMAC’s running strength is his incredible first steps and initial burst. He’s a guy that will explode through a hole.

    He’s not a guy whose strength is floating and waiting for a hole to open.

    His game is to hit a gap as quickly as possible and flash through it.

    Krapp is too dumb to see this and too stubborn to put DMAC in a position to do what he does best.

    >>>>>

    This much is true. I went back to look at all of McF lang runs last season on NFL Rewind and didn’t notice that he looked any different. The o-line did seem to do a better job at creating holes for him (especially at the 2nd level) and he did seem better at finding them.

    One thing though… Reece is THE worst run blocking TE in the NFL (According to PFF) and I wouldn’t be surprised if our new WRs and Moore are some of the worst run blocking WRs in the league.

    A lot of McFs success last year started out inside and broke to the outside. If our WRs aren’t blocking downfield he is getting tackled by CBs. I’ve noticed Streater in particular completely whiff on blocks that McF could have taken to the house this year.

  • dr_robert

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    The thing you guys dont understand is just about EVERY team runs some ZBS along with the man scheme.

    At the end of the day, players win not schemes.
    ******************

    yep

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    And that word does mean what we think it means.

  • The_Judge37

    1563.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am
    1560.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    The thing you guys dont understand is just about EVERY team runs some ZBS along with the man scheme.

    At the end of the day, players win not schemes.
    ———

    Does every team also only have two running plays?

    Stretch Left
    Stretch Right

    —-

    Can only call plays that players are capable of executing right..

    But they don’t execute those plays

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    I hate our Donkey system.

    And I hate our Donkey coach.

    Mark needs to fix this fast.

    Bill Polian has been there and done that.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    It takes time to mesh. Move as a unit.

    We just came off a game where we gave up no sacks and almost had 2 100 yard rushers.

  • dr_robert

    Gdog Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Dmac looks slower this yr too..
    =================================
    He very well might have lost a step.

    Here’s the thing about DMAC that a lot of people don’t understand…

    DMAC’s top end speed is very good. Better than most backs. But he’s not a pure burner or a back that has that electrifying ‘extra gear’ that just blows people away and leaves them in the dust.

    No, DMAC’s running strength is his incredible first steps and initial burst. He’s a guy that will explode through a hole.

    He’s not a guy whose strength is floating and waiting for a hole to open.

    His game is to hit a gap as quickly as possible and flash through it.

    Krapp is too dumb to see this and too stubborn to put DMAC in a position to do what he does best.

    >>>>>

    This much is true. I went back to look at all of McF lang runs last season on NFL Rewind and didn’t notice that he looked any different. The o-line did seem to do a better job at creating holes for him (especially at the 2nd level) and he did seem better at finding them.

    One thing though… Reece is THE worst run blocking TE in the NFL (According to PFF) and I wouldn’t be surprised if our new WRs and Moore are some of the worst run blocking WRs in the league.

    A lot of McFs success last year started out inside and broke to the outside. If our WRs aren’t blocking downfield he is getting tackled by CBs. I’ve noticed Streater in particular completely whiff on blocks that McF could have taken to the house this year.

    ****************

    reece has no interest in blocking. i bet mcclain in his green beanie makes more of an effort on scout team.

    and priest suggested it would be a good idea to convert him to TE. u know, cuz he’s a good RB and poor blocker, and we have a breakout TE this year.

    i love priest and missdick. they’re so fun.

    btw, dhb is good blocker.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    boss01 Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    It’s only year one. Knapp needs till year two for his genius offensive tactics he is teaching to sink in. In year two we will get to see an offensive explosion. Just be patient and have some perspective. Can’t wait for that year two offensive leap in production.
    ====================================================
    Have faith. We’re way ahead of schedule.

    According to Krapp himself, it took 5 years and plucking Foster off of a practice squad to make it work in Houston.

    All that’s needed is time and patience.

    Krapp will lead this offense to GREATNESS !

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Tom Cable said something like ‘Power blocking, zone blocking, it’s football. Neutralize your man’.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I hate our Donkey system.

    And I hate our Donkey coach.

    Mark needs to fix this fast.

    Bill Polian has been there and done that.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

    —-

    Allen was on staff in Denver for 1 season, and he’s a Donkey coach…

    So from now on Shanahan is known as a Raider coach.

    Therefore the ZBS he runs is a Raider system..

    BOOM.

  • dr_robert

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I hate our Donkey system.

    And I hate our Donkey coach.

    Mark needs to fix this fast.

    Bill Polian has been there and done that.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.
    **************

    do u have anything else to say at all? are u so football-dumb that u think a gm will get fired in-season in his first year?

    don’t u bore urself?

  • dr_robert

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    It takes time to mesh. Move as a unit.

    We just came off a game where we gave up no sacks and almost had 2 100 yard rushers.
    **************

    there is hope.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    What kind of medicine do you practice?

  • dr_robert

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Tom Cable said something like ‘Power blocking, zone blocking, it’s football. Neutralize your man’.
    **********

    interesting concept.

  • dr_robert

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I hate our Donkey system.

    And I hate our Donkey coach.

    Mark needs to fix this fast.

    Bill Polian has been there and done that.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

    —-

    Allen was on staff in Denver for 1 season, and he’s a Donkey coach…

    So from now on Shanahan is known as a Raider coach.

    Therefore the ZBS he runs is a Raider system..

    BOOM.
    ******************

    don’t hurt ‘em. they’re just little retards.

  • dr_robert

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:17 am
    What kind of medicine do you practice?
    ****************

    doctor of dopeness

  • Gdog

    btw, dhb is good blocker.

    >>>>>

    Yup. One reason to keep him.

    He might be our only hands guy that cares about blocking.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    That’s what I thought.

  • The_Judge37

    1570.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    It takes time to mesh. Move as a unit.

    We just came off a game where we gave up no sacks and almost had 2 100 yard rushers.
    —–

    Sure it only took a full off season of OTA’s, Training camp, preseason and 14 games but they’re finally able to do what everyteam has been able to do against the Chiefs.

    Forget that it took less time to teach them power blocking over Cables ZBS

  • dr_robert

    Gdog Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    btw, dhb is good blocker.

    >>>>>

    Yup. One reason to keep him.

    He might be our only hands guy that cares about blocking.
    ************

    i think streater and criner have the potential, as they learn. they’ve both got the size and at least streater does have the work ethic.

  • Gdog

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    >>>>

    Ok, we can agree on this. Mostly because Smith is no longer playing. But I still don’t understand why Myers is even in the game until third down if he is the worst run blocker in the NFL.

    I’m not convinced Knapp has even noticed.

  • dr_robert

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    That’s what I thought.
    ***********

    oh thank u.

  • dr_robert

    Gdog Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    >>>>

    Ok, we can agree on this. Mostly because Smith is no longer playing. But I still don’t understand why Myers is even in the game until third down if he is the worst run blocker in the NFL.

    I’m not convinced Knapp has even noticed.
    ***********

    myers or reece?

    anyone think it’s interesting that we keep using bergstrom as a TE, when richard gordon’s reason for being in the league is cuz of blocking?

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Bergstrom is a gem.

    Thanks Reggie.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    What has Reggie done right?

  • Gdog

    Ok, we can agree on this. Mostly because Smith is no longer playing. But I still don’t understand why Myers is even in the game until third down if he is the worst run blocker in the NFL.

    I’m not convinced Knapp has even noticed.
    ***********

    myers or reece?

    >>>>

    Myers is at TE. I guess there was nobody even close to second worst. Not sure about Reece. I think next year I will pay the 26 bucks to be a full member to see all the stats at PFF.

  • dr_robert

    bergstrom is a solid 3rd rounder. he will be a starter in year two. pretty much exactly what they thought.

    what has he done right?

    bergstrom
    streater
    criner
    goodson
    stewart
    bilukidi
    wheeler
    burris
    adams
    ross
    hanson

    what has he done wrong?

    brisiel
    schmitt
    tollefson
    bartell

  • DennisAllensVisor

    dr_robert Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    Gdog Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    >>>>

    Ok, we can agree on this. Mostly because Smith is no longer playing. But I still don’t understand why Myers is even in the game until third down if he is the worst run blocker in the NFL.

    I’m not convinced Knapp has even noticed.
    ***********

    myers or reece?

    anyone think it’s interesting that we keep using bergstrom as a TE, when richard gordon’s reason for being in the league is cuz of blocking?

    —-

    Gordon has been hurt.

  • radraider

    how is handing off twice and throwing a 7 yrd in a special package. oh wait its Krapp

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Scrubs.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Rod Streater alone is impressive enough that you shouldnt be able to even open your mouth about Reggie.

  • dr_robert

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
    dr_robert Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    Gdog Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    As much as you guys seem to rag on the ZBS, if you were real about it you would see that the OL has gotten better and better.

    >>>>

    Ok, we can agree on this. Mostly because Smith is no longer playing. But I still don’t understand why Myers is even in the game until third down if he is the worst run blocker in the NFL.

    I’m not convinced Knapp has even noticed.
    ***********

    myers or reece?

    anyone think it’s interesting that we keep using bergstrom as a TE, when richard gordon’s reason for being in the league is cuz of blocking?

    —-

    Gordon has been hurt.
    **********

    he’s been playing special teams. actually gets in on a lot of tackles.

  • RaidingTexas

    The_Judge37 Says:

    The good thing about ZBS is that you can plug in any RB, except that Shanahanigens teams were never any good once TD and Portis were gone.

    ————————————–

    Complete bullsh!t.

    Rushing yards after TD and Portis were gone:

    2004 … 2,333
    2005 … 2,539
    2006 … 2,152
    2007 … 1,957
    2008 … 1,862

    Yes, a little drop off those last two years he was there – still over 100 yards per game though. They also leaned a LOT more on passing while Cutler was there rather than Plummer. As bad as Cutler can be, Plummer was an absolute joke of an NFL QB.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    I will compile the WHAT REGGIE HAS DONE WRONG LIST.

    This might take a while.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • radraider

    reece should = christenson

  • DennisAllensVisor

    We have the problem the Broncos would have had if they kept Tebow.

    Palmer/Manning require a different set of plays than Pryor/Tebow.

    Cant expect a team to know 2 sets of playbooks.

    And that means one cant back up the other.