Kuechly what Raiders thought they had in McClain
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 at 3:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The player the Raiders envisioned as the leader of their defense for years will be on full display Sunday, when the Raiders play the Carolina Panthers. Problem is, that player will be the one in the middle of the Panthers defense and not Rolando McClain.
Panthers rookie Luke Kuechly has developed into everything the Raiders hoped for when they selected McClain with the eighth pick of the 2010 NFL draft. Kuechly arrived this season as the No. 9 pick in this year’s draft out of Boston College, and he wasted little time in returning huge dividends.
“He’s all over the place,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “He made every play in college and he’s making a ton of them here in the NFL. He’s a really good football player. He’s instinctive; he’s fast; he’s athletic. He plays extremely hard.”
Kuechly leads the Panthers with 139 tackles, including an NFL-best three games in which he posted 15 or more tackles. Meanwhile, McClain likely will be on the sideline, inactive for a second straight game, as the Raiders decide how to proceed with a player that has failed to mature into a reliable player.
“A guy comes in and becomes your star middle linebacker, and he has to step up and become that leader, and that’s exactly what Luke has done for us on the defensive side,” Panthers coach Ron Rivera said of Kuechly in a conference call with Bay Area media. “He has stepped up, become that leader. He understands the responsibility of being the Mike linebacker, the middle linebacker.
“When you’re that guy in the inside that everybody is looking to, Luke has the answers. Part of it has been his upbringing, his training as a football player. He understands the game itself, so that’s another key element that he has going for him. Not only is he a good athlete and a good football player, but he’s a smart football player.”
That’s what the Raiders thought they were getting in McClain, a standout at Alabama. Both won the Butkus Award as the nation’s top collegiate linebacker in their final seasons.
Yet, Kuechly stepped in right away as the starter for the Panthers this season and played as if he still is in college. McClain’s play dipped so much that he was removed from the field in nickel situations after four games this season in favor of rookie Miles Burris and, ultimately, benched altogether in favor of free-agent signee Omar Gaither.
“I don’t know that we have that guy that just steps up and says that, ‘I’m the guy and I’m going to make all the adjustments for you,’ ” Allen said. “We’re still looking for that.”
The Raiders hoped McClain would be that guy. To that end, Allen and other coaches impressed upon McClain in the offseason to become more vocal and take on more of a leadership role.
McClain embraced the idea, to some extent, though he said he isn’t comfortable being vocal the way most middle linebackers tend to be. Allen said it’s imperative that someone on defense take charge.
“That’s big,” Allen said. “You have your quarterback on offense and you need a quarterback on defense because there’s a lot of communication that goes on defensively. Most places that you’re at, the middle linebacker is kind of the guy that does that for you.”
Kuechly said he learned in college the value of communicating. It also helps, he said, that he plays for a head coach that played linebacker and is surrounded by older players.
Even so, he added, becoming a leader is something that comes from the way you play and the way you conduct yourself, not by being a high draft pick and someone that is receiving a boatload of money.
“It’s one of those things where you got to earn respect from the guys around you,” Kuechly said. “At first, you can’t go in and act like you’re the head guy. There’s like a hierarchy, a totem pole that you kind of got to earn the respect of the other guys. If you can kind of do that, it allows you to maybe kind of lead the (defense).”
Kuechly caught the eye of Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer right away when Palmer watched tape of the Panthers games.
“He’s played middle linebacker and he’s played the strong side and the weak side,” Palmer said. “For a rookie to do that, it’s pretty unorthodox. There’s not a lot of rookies that come in and play multiple positions.
“He’s second or third in the league in tackles. To have those kinds of statistics as a rookie is something you don’t see. He has the stats but you turn on the film, he just shows up. He’s all over the place, harassing guys running routes. He’s always around the ball, making tackles and assisting on tackles so he’s a very good pick for them.”
– The Raiders and Panthers had each other on speed dial during the offseason, with Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie pulling off two trades.
In one, McKenzie sent wide receiver Louis Murphy to the Panthers for a seventh-round draft pick. In the other, the teams exchanged running back Mike Goodson for offensive tackle Bruce Campbell.
Murphy and Goodson worked out just fine for both teams. Murphy has 21 receptions for 274 yards and one touchdown in 14 games, surpassing his totals in all three categories for the Raiders in 2011. Goodson has rushed for 200 yards (6.7-yard average) and caught 15 passes for 187 yards and one touchdown.
“Louis Murphy has done a great job for us, he really has,” Rivera said. “He’s really helped us in terms of our deep ball threat. When Brandon LaFell went down with an injury, he stepped in and became our No. 2 receiver and he has been a good vertical threat. He’s made a couple clutch catches for us the last few weeks. It’s good to have him here.”
Rivera said the Panthers liked Goodson. It just became a matter of numbers, with Goodson being the odd man out in a crowded backfield.
“Our problem was we had too many running backs,” Rivera said. “We brought in a fullback/running back and we had DeAngelo (Williams) and we had Jonathan Stewart. So, rather than release a guy outright, we tried to get something for him. We feel pretty good about what Bruce Campbell’s done for us since he’s been here. We felt both teams made out well.”
Goodson said he is fired up about playing the Panthers, yet he’s also trying to maintain his composure.
“I am looking forward to it,” Goodson said. “It’s a pretty big deal. That’s my old team and where I used to be for so long. They decided to trade me here, so I’m excited to take my new team and go back against those guys.”
Campbell was a fourth-round draft pick of the Raiders in 2010. He struggled settling in at a position during his two years in Oakland, bouncing around from guard to tackle and also battling injuries.
The Panthers jumped at the chance to acquire a player with impressive size, speed and strength, even if Campbell is a raw prospect.
“He’s coming along very well,” Rivera said. “We have him working strictly as a left tackle. The unfortunate thing for him right now is, he is behind Jordan Gross. We told him, ‘Hey, you have an opportunity to take a step back, learn the techniques, learn how to play the position the way we need it to be played.’ There is no pressure on him right now. He’s looked good, he’s done some really nice things for us, he had a nice training camp for us and things look bright as we go into the future.”
– The Carolina game is Oakland’s final shot at beating an NFC team this season. They already lost to the Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the NFC South. The Panthers are 5-9, but they are in the midst of a three-game win streak.
– Count quarterback Carson Palmer and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey as two more that think the Raiders aren’t in need of a major overhaul, just another year in the offensive and defensive systems.
Heyward-Bey said the pieces are in place on offense, especially when the Raiders get back receiver Jacoby Ford from his foot injury next season.
“Oh, yeah,” Heyward-Bey said. “I’m here, so I feel like I’m probably a good piece. We definitely have the pieces here. The thing about football is, you always feel like you can get better. So, I know Reggie (McKenzie) and D.A. are going to try to do that on both sides of the ball.”
Heyward-Bey is in his fourth NFL season. He said he has been in a different offense every season. The prospect of playing in the same system from one year to the next is enticing.
“That would be nice,” Heyward-Bey said. “It would be real nice.”
Palmer said offensive coordinator Greg Knapp warned the players that there would be growing pains but, given patience, things eventually would click.
“A second year will do wonders, obviously,” Palmer said, “and with free agency and the draft and adding players here and there, you’re only going to get better.”
– Raiders wide receiver Rod Streater is the seventh undrafted rookie since 2000 to catch as many as 33 passes his first season.
The six others are: Dominic Rhodes (34 in 2001), Selvin Young (35, 2007); Davone Bess (54, 2008), Blair White (36, 2010), Keiland Williams (39, 2010) and Doug Baldwin (51, 2011).
– Allen said Denarius Moore and Phillip Adams are among those working on fielding punts this week. Adams is returning from his second concussion, Moore is returning from a game in which he struggled with his decision-making on punt returns. Matt Giordano is another option.
– Goodson, kicker Sebastain Janikowski and the defense received game balls for their play in a 15-0 victory over the Chiefs last Sunday.
Janikowski declined an interview request. Goodson called the honor “huge.”
Allen said it’s at the point where he expects Janikowski to make every field-goal attempt. Why not? Janikowski is 29 of 32 this season, with his misses from 51, 61 and 64 yards.
“Yes, I do,” Allen said. “I think he does too. I don’t really care where he kicks it from. When you have a great player, that’s what you expect and that’s what he expects. It’s more important that that’s what he expects. So it’s a comforting feeling for me knowing that when we get across the 50, I feel confident being able to put him in the game and feel like we can make the kick and get three points.”
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December 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Priest,
That is deep and verifies what my father told me. i asked him what happened to the movement and he said “we went from revolutionaries to superfly over night”.
I have respect for you priest. i also agree that power is the main issue.
My concern is the condition of black people world wide. We seem to be at the bottom and in the most desperate condition all over the world including here. I do not believe it is simple happen stance.
i think it is constructive for us to try and repair and heal ourselves. as it is clear like hurricane, Katrina no help is coming any time soon.
December 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
kueckly is a monster.
he flies around and always is around the ball. Not quite the thumper that urlacher or lewis were in there primes, but every bit as instinctual, and relentless
December 19th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
STAR MUST BE OUR PICK.
PICK UP AVRIL, KICK HOUSTON INSIDE.
December 19th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Mistic,
Te hablo en serio; tienes que consultar con un medico para sacar el basto tan grande que esta completamente atorado en tu culo. El procedimiento sera doloroso, pero estoy seguro de que podras recuperarte con tiempo y paciencia.
Sinceramente,
Tigre de papel
December 19th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
yo
December 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Or the tackle from A&M, move Veldheer to the right side.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
4.papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Mistic,
Te hablo en serio; tienes que consultar con un medico para sacar el basto tan grande que esta completamente atorado en tu culo. El procedimiento sera doloroso, pero estoy seguro de que podras recuperarte con tiempo y paciencia.
Sinceramente,
Tigre de papel
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Word!
December 19th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
6.hellsbells Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Or the tackle from A&M, move Veldheer to the right side.
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I agree, he’d be a lot more comfortable on the Right wing
December 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Say no to Donkey Ball.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
As much as we need help on the lines, I still think we need a proven #1 WR to take the pressure off our receiving corps. Dmoore, Ford, and even DHB would be so much better with someone like Fitzgerald or Bowe taking up the defense’s attention.
It can’t be a project. We need an established player in his prime.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Starters to get rid of: McDadden, DHBust, Dick Seemore, Rick Ross, RoLoser, Belinda Carlisle, Fatigue Barnes, and about 20 other non-starting palookas.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Murphy has 21 receptions for 274 yards and one touchdown in 14 games…
how much does criner have? how about hagan?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
“Janikowski declined an interview request.”
That’s because Jano is brain dead. He has several million reasons not to care though.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
lmao…bowe over here would be running 3 yard outs in krapps offense…
December 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
We’re moving past traditional group distinctions and into the modern territory of demographics. This shift has a corporate tinge to it that has at its core the necessity for optimal appeal.
As the trend runs its course, those who are stuck in the old traditional mindsets will react against it with more vitriol ie Tea Party and Mistic. Eventually they will be eroded, but in the meantime the traditional idea of community and individual-as-member will persist.
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If you have the luxury of being safe and comfortable enough to take that view, be my guest.
I would never prescribe that mindset for my own as there is so much work to be done healing our own.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
In todays world all talk about the right and the left is just idiocy. The discourse should be about liberty vs totalitarianism. Both Democrats and Republicans are offering to rule every aspect of your lives. They both need to be rejected.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
10.papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
As much as we need help on the lines, I still think we need a proven #1 WR to take the pressure off our receiving corps. Dmoore, Ford, and even DHB would be so much better with someone like Fitzgerald or Bowe taking up the defense’s attention.
It can’t be a project. We need an established player in his prime.
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Might be my Raider bias combined with Chiefs hatred, but i never really veiwed Bowe as being that good. Lots of dropped balls from him.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/19/kuechly-what-raiders-thought-they-had-in-mcclain/
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DA pretty much confirms that if McK and him have a shot at Te’o in the draft, they will take him!
December 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I liked Murphy. He played with passion. He was a fierce down field blocker, made plays, winner, but too many drops.
I’ll take Murphy over Hey-Bey any day.
Who did Reggie pick up in the 7th?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Bring back trestman or unleash Saunders
December 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
23-17
December 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Take Te’o, Moore, or Werner with that top 4 pick.
Too high to take an inside two gap NT/DT who won’t be involved in enough plays.
A stud LB like Te’o and pass rushing DE/OLB’s like Moore and Werner would bring more impact on a play by play basis.
Taking an OLinemen that high is overrated as well.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
You can tell Murphy learned a lot from playing with Tebow. He was great at tracking down horribly thrown balls. Which is why he excelled with Bruce Gradkowski
December 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Oh and trade DMAC
December 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Nathan Stupar was our 7th round pick
December 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
In todays world all talk about the right and the left is just idiocy. The discourse should be about liberty vs totalitarianism. Both Democrats and Republicans are offering to rule every aspect of your lives. They both need to be rejected.
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Go whine to Ron Paul.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
You can’t just say “trade DMAC”. You have to consider “for what?”
December 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
KoolKell, libertarians don’t whine for more state control, we seek to educate.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
20…truth no not you mctroll/DAV
December 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/19/kuechly-what-raiders-thought-they-had-in-mcclain/
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DA pretty much confirms that if McK and him have a shot at Te’o in the draft, they will take him!
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Hit the nail right on head…
December 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
KoolKell, libertarians don’t whine for more state control, we seek to educate.
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Yep you sure did, that why Americans don’t want anything to do with it.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mistic spouted:
The bought Bill Cosby’s stand up and tell his brothers to lay down their arms, and go along with Whitey. LaBron stays in the penthouse of hotels owned by Whitey, while he tips his hispanic maid more than the black cook in the kitchen making his salads makes in a week.
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I’m guessing that the amount of those tips have much less to do with skin color and much more to do with the shapeliness of the maid’s butt.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I bet Trestman would come back…
December 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Who are these “Americans” that you speak of? 58% of eligible voters voted for nobody. Nobody won.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mistic spouted:
The bought Bill Cosby’s stand up and tell his brothers to lay down their arms, and go along with Whitey. LaBron stays in the penthouse of hotels owned by Whitey, while he tips his hispanic maid more than the black cook in the kitchen making his salads makes in a week.
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I’m guessing that the amount of those tips have much less to do with skin color and much more to do with the shapeliness of the maid’s butt.
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i have no clue what this drivel is about
I certainly didnt say that
my post was coded for those with the ears to hear it.
If it wasnt for you you will never get it.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Who are these “Americans” that you speak of? 58% of eligible voters voted for nobody. Nobody won.
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1 % voted Libertarian.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
my post was coded for those with the ears to hear it.
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Is that like that line from ‘White Men Can’t Jump’ where Wesley Snipes said something like, “white people listen to Jimi but they can’t hear him”?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Well then another 57% voted for nobody, nobody still won.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I liked Murph, he had some fire to him.
Should have kept him and traded Jacoby.
Would have probably got a 5th instead of a 7th as well.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Oh my, Mistic and Kook are tipping over the edge….
At least Kooky got his meds, Mistic you are indeed a sad, sad man.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
30.Dan78 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/19/kuechly-what-raiders-thought-they-had-in-mcclain/
^^^^
DA pretty much confirms that if McK and him have a shot at Te’o in the draft, they will take him!
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Hit the nail right on head…
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Oh yeah. Te’o is the exact opposite of McClown.
Some say where was Te’o his freshman and sophmore years in college? Hmm…well he was developing of course!
Te’o as a freshman had 63 tackles and 5.5 tackles for a loss.
As a sophomore, he had 133 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss, one sack and one forced fumble.
As a junior, he led Notre Dame with 128 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss and five sacks. He was a Second-Team All-American also in 2011.
And of course this year he was a BEAST!
December 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Well then another 57% voted for nobody, nobody still won.
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I’m pretty sure B.O. Will be inaugurated next month, dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
12.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Murphy has 21 receptions for 274 yards and one touchdown in 14 games…
how much does criner have? how about hagan?
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More than Criner & Hagan, but less than Streater in every catagorey.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
KoolKell, democracy is mob rule. That you are part of the mob doesn’t make you right.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
If these idiots take T’eo and sign Tebow I don’t know what to think of their stupidity.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
KoolKell, democracy is mob rule. That you are part of the mob doesn’t make you right.
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I guess your mob is just tiny. Lol.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
30.Dan78 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/19/kuechly-what-raiders-thought-they-had-in-mcclain/
^^^^
DA pretty much confirms that if McK and him have a shot at Te’o in the draft, they will take him!
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Hit the nail right on head…
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Oh yeah. Te’o is the exact opposite of McClown.
Some say where was Te’o his freshman and sophmore years in college? Hmm…well he was developing of course!
Te’o as a freshman had 63 tackles and 5.5 tackles for a loss.
As a sophomore, he had 133 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss, one sack and one forced fumble.
As a junior, he led Notre Dame with 128 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss and five sacks. He was a Second-Team All-American also in 2011.
And of course this year he was a BEAST!
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Don’t forget Reggie is looking for Choir boys when they ae off the field not thugs shooting up people… Te’o would be a Perfect fit
December 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Arcane, are we mistic? Mistic sez: Zymurge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mistic spouted:
The bought Bill Cosby’s stand up and tell his brothers to lay down their arms, and go along with Whitey. LaBron stays in the penthouse of hotels owned by Whitey, while he tips his hispanic maid more than the black cook in the kitchen making his salads makes in a week.
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I’m guessing that the amount of those tips have much less to do with skin color and much more to do with the shapeliness of the maid’s butt.
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i have no clue what this drivel is about
I certainly didnt say that
my post was coded for those with the ears to hear it.
If it wasnt for you you will never get it.
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Arcane, are we, mistic: Why do I think Cosby and LaBran would “get” it, the insults quite obvious. Oh, a certain kind of black man, you are addressing?
Find your niche. Lead your revolt. Keep your club “membership” to your ilk. OK?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
If Teo played for Indiana we’d never hear a word about him. Don’t worry I’m sure DA & Reggie are dumb enough to take a slow MLB in a passing league with a top 5 pick.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The Kuechly vs McClain comparison could be done with ever draft pick the raiders have made over 10yrs.
The Raiders don’t get production and its fanbase excuses this situation with talk about decoys, potential and “hard work”.
As for CP and DHB saying we keep the team together…I say no way! Those two are among the 1st that need to be run off. This roster needs nothing less than a thorough pressure washing. Get these underperforming check cashers outta here.
I am tired of the excuses and bs. Alas, this sad team is near the top in payroll.
Clean House!
December 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
47.Dan78 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
30.Dan78 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/19/kuechly-what-raiders-thought-they-had-in-mcclain/
^^^^
DA pretty much confirms that if McK and him have a shot at Te’o in the draft, they will take him!
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Hit the nail right on head…
^^^^^^^^
Oh yeah. Te’o is the exact opposite of McClown.
Some say where was Te’o his freshman and sophmore years in college? Hmm…well he was developing of course!
Te’o as a freshman had 63 tackles and 5.5 tackles for a loss.
As a sophomore, he had 133 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss, one sack and one forced fumble.
As a junior, he led Notre Dame with 128 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss and five sacks. He was a Second-Team All-American also in 2011.
And of course this year he was a BEAST!
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Don’t forget Reggie is looking for Choir boys when they ae off the field not thugs shooting up people… Te’o would be a Perfect fit
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As long the choir boys produce, make plays and stay out trouble and work hard….it’s good!
December 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell, that you are so proud of being part of the ruling class does not surprise me. All statist share the same elation at being able to tell other people how to live their lives. My question is, where do you get the arrogance to believe that you can tell other people how to live and also to reserve the right to incarcerate them or kill them if they don’t do as you say?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
R00ter, what cross posting Btch were you yesterday?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
49.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
If Teo played for Indiana we’d never hear a word about him. Don’t worry I’m sure DA & Reggie are dumb enough to take a slow MLB in a passing league with a top 5 pick.
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Oh yeah suuuuure…Te’o is slow. haha
Who is slower….Te’o or McLame?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell, that you are so proud of being part of the ruling class does not surprise me. All statist share the same elation at being able to tell other people how to live their lives. My question is, where do you get the arrogance to believe that you can tell other people how to live and also to reserve the right to incarcerate them or kill them if they don’t do as you say?
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It’s not just me dumbass. It’s the majority of people who voted.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Kookyell, when you actually SAY something, I’ll respond. Meanwhile, kick your dog.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Majority rules. Gang rape is majority rules.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Heyward-Bey is in his fourth NFL season. He said he has been in a different offense every season. The prospect of playing in the same system from one year to the next is enticing.
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Very interesting.
So whose offense was it in 2010 that set some Raider records, and why the hell did Hue change it in 2011?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Kookyell, when you actually SAY something, I’ll respond. Meanwhile, kick your dog.
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What names did you post here under yesterday, dumbass?
December 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Majority rules. Gang rape is majority rules.
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Not under the law, dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I know that neither Barksdale or Campbell have done much since being traded. But i think for a team as weak as we are with Line Depth, Reggie gave up on these young players way to quickly. He was also to quick to trade Murphy when all he saw from the Rookie WR’s were in OTA’s.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Teo is another right-wing, Romney loving Mormon.
Trade up to get him!!!!
December 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
qodrn1 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Fortunately, the tech people in the house put in my 3rd keyboard and I am now typing shock free.
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Hook ‘em up with Miss Tick.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Heyward-Bey is in his fourth NFL season. He said he has been in a different offense every season. The prospect of playing in the same system from one year to the next is enticing.
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Very interesting.
So whose offense was it in 2010 that set some Raider records, and why the hell did Hue change it in 2011?
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Nice catch, it’s either poor reporting or DHB ain’t too bright. Both high probabilities.
December 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
qodrn1;
Raiders 38 Camolina 21
December 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Teo is another right-wing, Romney loving Mormon.
Trade up to get him!!!!
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He’s obviously pretty stupid.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell, calling people “dumbass” is not going to cut it. If the majority says that black people are to be slaves then what is your response?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
SnB, I actually think we got some horses. Ravens won a SB with a twit at QB and I don’t think that Palmer is the problem…or solution. Jerk his butt when he throws a stupid pass when we’re in the red zone. Play a damn single wing, with Pryor, till the old pro says uncle.
All picks should go to defense, IMO. Starting with a LB to go w/Burris-Wheeler. DB’s. a 350 lb idiot for the runners to trip over. In that order. Fill some gaps with FAs. Ok, one offensive lineman, ready to start, from the draft. There are probably more of them in this draft than so called “skill” position players.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Pure democracy is inherently flawed by the basic truth that most people are morons.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell, calling people “dumbass” is not going to cut it. If the majority says that black people are to be slaves then what is your response?
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Then we work on civil rights legislation, and form alliances with other like minded people, dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Que viva el Tigre! lol
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Pure democracy is inherently flawed by the basic truth that most people are morons.
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Less democracy or Dictatorship, dumbass?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
4b. Slade Norris, LB, Oregon State
IF only he could’ve lived up to his name, he would’ve been Bad@$$
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And Stryker Sulak.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Kookyell, when you actually SAY something, I’ll respond. Meanwhile, kick your dog.
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What names did you post here under yesterday, dumbass?
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Anyone else notice the regression in this dude kookyell? Should we alert his neighbors?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
4b. Slade Norris, LB, Oregon State
IF only he could’ve lived up to his name, he would’ve been Bad@$$
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And Stryker Sulak.
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Damm Forgot about him. They’d have been great.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
He’s obviously pretty stupid.
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I am willing to bet the diploma he will recieve from Notre Dame will carry a little more prestige than your college diploma.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
R00ter, who were you posting under yesterday, and why did you change, dumbass?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Oh come on, Kell! I think the one thing that everyone on this blog can agree upon is that most people are morons.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
4b. Slade Norris, LB, Oregon State
IF only he could’ve lived up to his name, he would’ve been Bad@$$
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And Stryker Sulak.
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Damm Forgot about him. They’d have been great.
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That’s why I think we should draft Max Force.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
JFB, your dumbass swore Romney would win by a landslide, didn’t you?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Pure democracy is inherently flawed by the basic truth that most people are morons.
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Can’t really argue with that statement.
Allen said it’s imperative that someone on defense take charge.
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Can’t really argue with that statement either.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Mush is always wrong.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
4b. Slade Norris, LB, Oregon State
IF only he could’ve lived up to his name, he would’ve been Bad@$$
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And Stryker Sulak.
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Damm Forgot about him. They’d have been great.
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That’s why I think we should draft Max Force.
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Yeah but betting on cool names only works in Horse Racing
December 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
JFB, you also told us Knapp would be a spectacular OC, didn’t you dumbass?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Oh come on, Kell! I think the one thing that everyone on this blog can agree upon is that most people are morons.
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People who can’t sing think they can, and stupid people don’t know they’re stupid.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
JFB, you also told us Knapp would be a spectacular OC, didn’t you dumbass?
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Wait….he hasn’t?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Kookyell sez: R00ter, who were you posting under yesterday, and why did you change, dumbass
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I’m really KoolKell, using two computers, at work of course, milking the boss of a different color.
I just wasn’t getting the attention I need and the doc has cut me loose. I get no respect on this site and I can’t figure out why, so…I talk to myself when I’m not ratting people off.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell, you just can’t see that we are a dictatorship. You are comfortable with the staus quo.
The state makes the law in any way that they please. Tomorrow, with enough propoganda they can make any law they want. Jeeze man, wake up.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
JFB, you also told us Knapp would be a spectacular OC, didn’t you dumbass?
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Wait….he hasn’t?
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Well he has catered to our best offensive weapon: Jano
December 19th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
R00ter, are you too cowardly to tell us who you posted as yesterday? Did I or somebody else make a fool out of you?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
As Mark Twain said, “If voting really made a difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
December 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell, you just can’t see that we are a dictatorship. You are comfortable with the staus quo.
The state makes the law in any way that they please. Tomorrow, with enough propoganda they can make any law they want. Jeeze man, wake up.
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I’m woke. We’re going to take your machine guns away from you too, dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Oh yeah suuuuure…Te’o is slow. haha
Who is slower….Te’o or McLame?
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I believe Te’o’s 40 time is slower than McClain. I believe that Teo will be a better pro than McClain, even though they are saying the same thing about Teo that they did McClain, but that doesn’t make him worthy of a top 10 pick…
and I’m not the only one…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/manti-teo-will-be-a-first-round-pick-but-some-question-his-speed/
taking a MLB(who doesn’t have out of this world measurables) in this passing league is beyond dumb.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I wonder why Jano is being coy. That usually isn’t his style. Maybe he’s pissed that Lechler’s out the door after this season?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Blah,Blah,Blah.Another year in this system would be suicide.Fire Reggie and his bums now!
December 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
KookYell, is this your idea of a dialogue? I got an idea. Why don’t you try to post something. Anything. Or start adding some mix to those shots. You are getting quite boring. Besides, you’re the pro around here, why can’t you figure it out?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell, you just can’t see that we are a dictatorship. You are comfortable with the staus quo.
The state makes the law in any way that they please. Tomorrow, with enough propoganda they can make any law they want. Jeeze man, wake up
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Pretty much yeah
December 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I wonder why Jano is being coy. That usually isn’t his style. Maybe he’s pissed that Lechler’s out the door after this season?
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Possibility, I’ve said all season long the losing Lechler could affect Jano negativly. He’s more than just his place holder, he’s his best friend and only Career kicking partner.
Or he could just be hungover
December 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
KookYell, is this your idea of a dialogue? I got an idea. Why don’t you try to post something. Anything. Or start adding some mix to those shots. You are getting quite boring. Besides, you’re the pro around here, why can’t you figure it out?
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R00ter, are you too cowardly to tell us who you posted as yesterday? Did I or somebody else make a fool out of you?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
R00der,
Problem is that Carson is gettin $17mil and is 33 yrs old. Raiders are not going to SB or playoff bound next and possibly the year after that. If the Raiders had a better team, then Carson would be worth it. That $17mil could get 2 or 3 solid FAs.
Plus, Carson will have quite a bit of value in offseason. Jets, Cards and maybe Ravens are a good vet QB away from a SB run. 2nd rounder for sure.
DHB is just a guy. 4 yrs on and he’s just a bit player. Maybe a #3. DMAC is another guy that just isn’t worth it. The veterans are some of the highest paid at their positions. Too many Stanford Routt guys on this roster. Check cashers that would be depth guys at best and out of the league at worst.
I’d rather start at ground floor and build it up with draft picks, a few FAs and UFAs and good coaching. To that point, Knapp needs to roll out too.
CLEAN HOUSE!
December 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
No more Reggie.Get serious for 2013.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
93.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Oh yeah suuuuure…Te’o is slow. haha
Who is slower….Te’o or McLame?
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I believe Te’o’s 40 time is slower than McClain. I believe that Teo will be a better pro than McClain, even though they are saying the same thing about Teo that they did McClain, but that doesn’t make him worthy of a top 10 pick…
and I’m not the only one…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/manti-teo-will-be-a-first-round-pick-but-some-question-his-speed/
taking a MLB(who doesn’t have out of this world measurables) in this passing league is beyond dumb.
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Hey we know measurables equals success right?? Hmm…
Take a look at old mans Al’s drafting philosophy when it comes to HWS the last 10 years and SEE why this team has stunk.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I wonder where Romac will be next year. Can’t wait to hear his first interview after joining a new team, talking trash about Oakland. Then we can all sit back and watch him crash and burn just like Routt.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I wonder who will play LB next year for the Raiders?
Omar Gaither? LOL
December 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell, you just can’t see that we are a dictatorship. You are comfortable with the staus quo.
The state makes the law in any way that they please. Tomorrow, with enough propoganda they can make any law they want. Jeeze man, wake up
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Pretty much yeah
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Sure, as long as it jibes with the constitution.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I have a feeling RoMac will go to the Ravens. Just a hunch.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Another reason King would be a disaster for us.
He looked like he never held in his life. Seabass was missing FG’s and extra points in the preseason with him, and looking at him in disgust afterwards.
Here’s to hoping King is utilizing his season on IR and learning the nuances of holding, and not getting more tattoo’s to point to after hitting a good punt.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
D-tackle D-tackle D-tackle.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I wonder who will play LB next year for the Raiders?
Omar Gaither? LOL
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Kirk Morrison?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Immaculate Deception on NFL network.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Adams is proof this coaching staff can’t see talent, and our rushing TD’s (3, the fewest in the NFL) they don’t know what to do with it when they have it.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I know that neither Barksdale or Campbell have done much since being traded. But i think for a team as weak as we are with Line Depth, Reggie gave up on these young players way to quickly. He was also to quick to trade Murphy when all he saw from the Rookie WR’s were in OTA’s
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Barksdale has filled in well when Safford was hurt. I watched him against GB & he looked good at LT. But hey Reggie, who knows everything, had to cut him to get Willie Smith in here. I’m sure Bergstrom will get 3 more years to prove he’s worthless but hey they complain about depth here.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
KoolKell, and when you do then only your beloved totalitarian state will have guns. They will continue to kill innocent men, women and children in foreign lands and in the states and you will cheer because you have won. Talk about a dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Miami, didn’t Romac’s cousin get ditched by the Ravens? I know family is so important to him.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Another reason King would be a disaster for us.
He looked like he never held in his life. Seabass was missing FG’s and extra points in the preseason with him, and looking at him in disgust afterwards.
Here’s to hoping King is utilizing his season on IR and learning the nuances of holding, and not getting more tattoo’s to point to after hitting a good punt.
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Also King had a few Line drive punts in preseason. Sure he kicked some bombs but Lechler does that on a regular.
Someone brought up Franchising Shane this year since no one else on our Roster is worth it. Then we’d just have to pay Shane the average pay of a punter
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Plus, Carson will have quite a bit of value in offseason.
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Define “quite a bit”.
Because for the reasons you stated, 33 y/o and $17 million (I thought it was $13 millie but nevertheless), it will devalue him in my eyes.
I think we can package him and a 6th, for a 2nd. That’s about the peak of it, IMO.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Veteran Mike, then draft D-tackle,corner,DE,and a couple of inside linebackers.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
@The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
Isn’t part of McClain’s downfall his Crohn’s disease? You should look up the symptons, not somthing you want to play football with. Dude has to work a lot harder than everyone else.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Do the Raiders get any comp picks this year? Reggie will need all the picks he can get after gutting this roster during the off-season.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Carson IS our QB.Period.He will restructure.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Barksdale played a good first half against GB, but was a disaster in the 2nd half.
We were discussing it live in-game on here with a few semi’s.
The next week, more disaster in London and then left with injury in the 2nd quarter.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
SnB, that is not a practical “wish”. Look at our running backs (even if we DO lose MacFadden). Pick up a journeyman, smash mouth fullback and we are set. We got receivers, a top pro would be nice, but we can survive a year with what we got, including the TE. O line? Always, everywhere, a trick bag, FA guard/center, patch work but serviceable.
We FIX our D…we’re back in the game.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Our D-tackles suck.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Do the Raiders get any comp picks this year? Reggie will need all the picks he can get after gutting this roster during the off-season
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Probably not, we signed too many FA’s this year
December 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
@Dutch
It doesn’t surprise me that Romac sh!ts his pants on a regular basis. Probably did that even before the disease took hold.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
3 rushing TD’s all year?!?!?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Giants franchised their punter last year, and 5 teams franchised their kicker last year.
Good call. I am on board with that.
Franchise Shane!!!!
December 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Letting Mike Bush go was huge.Reggie sucks.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
119.papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Do the Raiders get any comp picks this year? Reggie will need all the picks he can get after gutting this roster during the off-season.
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For ?:
Bush?
Campbell?
Satelle?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Fk that! Shane is gone.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Kook, you drunk or just off your meds again?
Name ONE poster you have EVER made a fool of and I…well I will continue laughing my @$$ off…
December 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
125.papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
@Dutch
It doesn’t surprise me that Romac sh!ts his pants on a regular basis. Probably did that even before the disease took hold.
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Yes, but some of the other symptons are you cannot lift heavy weights…
December 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Fk that! Shane is gone.
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Probably, since he was drafted by AL, he’s gone.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
SnB, that is not a practical “wish”. Look at our running backs (even if we DO lose MacFadden). Pick up a journeyman, smash mouth fullback and we are set. We got receivers, a top pro would be nice, but we can survive a year with what we got, including the TE. O line? Always, everywhere, a trick bag, FA guard/center, patch work but serviceable.
We FIX our D…we’re back in the game.
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Did yesterday’s handle get banned, cross posting Btch?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
papertiger418 Says:
Oh come on, Kell! I think the one thing that everyone on this blog can agree upon is that most people are morons.
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They’re all too stupid to agree on anything.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Dude, Satele is obviously the key to success. Look what he did with the Colts! That’s a major turn-around.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
JLofty Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Kook, you drunk or just off your meds again?
Name ONE poster you have EVER made a fool of and I…well I will continue laughing my @$$ off…
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You for one, dummy. Lol.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
KoolKell cheered when his heroes killed children in Waco. Why, because their parents were “Whackos” (he uses that phrase a lot). Lefties are for killing children if their parents are “Whackos”.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Dude, Satele is obviously the key to success. Look what he did with the Colts! That’s a major turn-around.
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He was great with us too. Bad move letting him go.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Miami, didn’t Romac’s cousin get ditched by the Ravens? I know family is so important to him.
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Not sure, Tigre. If Ray Lewis was to play another year or retained in a role as a coach, it would be interesting to see how Romac would do with Ray coaching him up.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Hey we know measurables equals success right?? Hmm…
Take a look at old mans Al’s drafting philosophy when it comes to HWS the last 10 years and SEE why this team has stunk.
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Right, cuz McClain was a typical HWS selection right? Yes I’m so glad he was taken over that athletic freak JPP. Wonder why Lavernius Coles & his 4.3 speed made it over Warrick & his 4.6 speed. I’m sure most GM’s don’t look for speed when it comes to draft day. In fact, Al was wise to not pay attention to Gallery’s T-Rex arms wasn’t he?
But hey playing MLB for a big time school and being slow translates to automatic success in the NFL. Didn’t Katenzmoyer, Bosworth, Rivers turn into all-pro’s?
In fact, go look at all the MLB’s that have been taken in the top 5 & see how they have fared.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Raiders should get some low-level comp picks for Soup and Bush.
We got a 5th rounder for Gradkowski last year I believe.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
KK, haven’t read all the posts. You call anyone a gossipy lil Btch, yet?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I think our first round pick will be decided in the
national championship game. Four solid prospects, two
on each team, facing each other. Alabama has Chance
wormack and barret jones and notre dame has manti tao
and maybe the best of all them, nose tackle louis nix.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
KoolKell cheered when his heroes killed children in Waco. Why, because their parents were “Whackos” (he uses that phrase a lot). Lefties are for killing children if their parents are “Whackos”.
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Well that’s another damned lie. par for the course from you.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I still remember that crushing block last year Satele had on one of DMACs long runs against the Jets.
Gave me goose bumps.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I’ve heard one of the symptoms of Crohn’s disease is an increased risk of lethargy addiction.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
KK, haven’t read all the posts. You call anyone a gossipy lil Btch, yet?
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Not till now, gossipy Btch.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Raiders should get some low-level comp picks for Soup and Bush.
We got a 5th rounder for Gradkowski last year I believe.
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Comp picks are only when you lose more FA’s than you gain. THis year we had Bartell, Spencer & Brisel
December 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Letting Mike Bush go was huge.Reggie sucks.
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It’s been reported we offered him as much as money as the Bears, and Bush told us to piss off.
Too much of losing around here turned him off.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
KoolKell cheered when his heroes killed children in Waco. Why, because their parents were “Whackos” (he uses that phrase a lot). Lefties are for killing children if their parents are “Whackos”.
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Oh c’mon now. Don’t you know the guy that ran that congressional investigation said the Branch Davidians committed suicide? Who cares with the survivors witnessed? You know the same guy who is now our VP? Cover up for government’s crimes get rewarded..see Gerald Ford, Arlen Specter.
I wish they didn’t make that movie “Rules of Engagement” to get me all confused.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I still remember that crushing block last year Satele had on one of DMACs long runs against the Jets.
Gave me goose bumps.
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It was on Jim Leanord and it was on Moore’s reverse.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Yeah Purvis and he’s Pwn’in posters left and right. Man on fire!
December 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
KookYell sez: “R00ter, who were you posting under yesterday, and why did you change, dumbass”
Help me out here, folks, this retard is boring. He often have fixations on other men? Is this his way of asking for a date? Does he really think he has an intellect?
What?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
@The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
Isn’t part of McClain’s downfall his Crohn’s disease? You should look up the symptons, not somthing you want to play football with. Dude has to work a lot harder than everyone else.
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I suppose, but he is got a crappy attitude. I never wanted him and glad he will be gone but I can’t disagree with what he said about Allen.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
152
Obviously, the pot is taking it’s effect on my memory.
Thx
December 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
People who can’t sing think they can, and stupid people don’t know they’re stupid.
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I can’t sing and I know it; maybe ’cause I’m an OK musician. But I’m too smart to think I’m stupid.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Honestly, the change in the o-line and offensive coaching staff in general is the one thing that will stick with me long after this season is over. Satele was a part of that, though I didn’t think it would make such a difference at the time. Down the road, we’ll all remember how Reggie let DA fire-bomb a potentially potent offense with a retread from the Lance era.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Purvis, you’re like the opposite of Socrates and his “I’m so smart I know how dumb I am.”
December 19th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
KookYell sez: “R00ter, who were you posting under yesterday, and why did you change, dumbass”
Help me out here, folks, this retard is boring. He often have fixations on other men? Is this his way of asking for a date? Does he really think he has an intellect?
What?
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Lol, you’ve been following me around so long, have you ever heard of the word Plagarism, dumbass?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Nix announced this week he is returning to school.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell, calling people “dumbass” is not going to cut it. If the majority says that black people are to be slaves then what is your response?
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Kell would state if you can’t beat them, join them. That’s what Uncle Tom’s do. Right Kell? You failed in business. couldn’t keep a job. I looked you up, man. You married the homeliest white woman you could find, hoping she would support you.You tried real estate, which everybody tries when they can’t keep a job, thinking it’s an easy paycheck. But you actually had to get up off your ass, which you refuse to do.
It’s blacks like you that set back the cause.
Some make things happen. Some like you watch others make things happen, then complain about it.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
R00ter, why’d you change your name? Did I make a fool out of you? Tell me.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
KoolKell, if that is another “damned lie” then please explain, who is your beloved state allowed to kill?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Okay Kook, if you’re not too drunk, try using the Googly machine to look up some recent laws that are in complete violation of the constitution of the United States of America: Start with FISA Amendments Act…
then come back with some more laws of the land/majority/etc BS and call some more people dumasses and b’s. Smart guy…
December 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I wonder why Jano is being coy. That usually isn’t his style. Maybe he’s pissed that Lechler’s out the door after this season?
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Possibly. More likely tho you need 52 other guys to set all those attempts up, including 10 other guys on the unit out there kicking those FG’s, Lechler and Condo included. To take some run on a 4-10 team? Probably not a good thing…
December 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
THis year we had Bartell, Spencer & Brisel
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I don’t think those clowns will impact the comp pick process, but Wheeler surely will.
Probably not getting much of anything, maybe one 7th rounder or something.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
#162, Damn you changed handles again, dumbass?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
KoolKell, if that is another “damned lie” then please explain, who is your beloved state allowed to kill?
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Go fk yourself, and take that dumbass question with you for help.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
We’ve all changed handles, Kell. We’re all out to get you.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Save the names, Kell. That act is old.
We’ve seen a pic of your wife. Most brothers marry a fat blonde. In this case a skinny white woman married the pudgy black guy. She just had no idea she would be stuck supporting you all these years.
Doesn’t that embarrass you, as a black man?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell, calling people “dumbass” is not going to cut it. If the majority says that black people are to be slaves then what is your response?
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Kell would state if you can’t beat them, join them. That’s what Uncle Tom’s do. Right Kell? You failed in business. couldn’t keep a job. I looked you up, man. You married the homeliest white woman you could find, hoping she would support you.You tried real estate, which everybody tries when they can’t keep a job, thinking it’s an easy paycheck. But you actually had to get up off your ass, which you refuse to do.
It’s blacks like you that set back the cause.
Some make things happen. Some like you watch others make things happen, then complain about it.
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I think this is what you would officially call a beatdown.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Save the names, Kell. That act is old.
We’ve seen a pic of your wife. Most brothers marry a fat blonde. In this case a skinny white woman married the pudgy black guy. She just had no idea she would be stuck supporting you all these years.
Doesn’t that embarrass you, as a black man?
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I won’t don’t worry.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
DutchRaider77
The Crohn’s Disease aspect of Rolando McClain was a bit of a red flag heading into the draft.
However, I read in an Alabama newspaper — the report was then mainstreamed by other football sites and even the Oak Trib — McClain went to another doctor to get checked and it was found he didn’t have the disease after all.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
KookYell sez: “Lol, you’ve been following me around so long, have you ever heard of the word Plagarism, dumbass?”
Well, then you should know we all know who you post under.
Your boss and hey man, get that raise however you can. I hope he uses protection.
Now. How about your keep your nightmare to yourself. Till you come up with…sumptin’…I got nuthin’ for ya.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
missdick is the biggest moron this blog has ever seen.
and his support of rob parker is sickening, just like his whole life.
rob parker is the kind of black guy who wants very badly for black people to stay segregated, and line up against whites. he can’t think past race, but accuses everyone else of it.
just like the supa-tool missdick.
and missdick is the type of guy who makes otherwise non-racist people almost root against blacks, so they can laugh at him.
i have to say, if i could, i would punch him in the face repeatedly.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
rob parker and his “babershop crowd” are nearly identical to people like fangs and his “trailer crowd”. ignorant racists who can only see skin color. trying to hold others back be refusing to let them just be people.
i like newton, griffin, wilson, freeman, pryor. they’re fun to watch and i’m rooting for them. i think it’s cool that more black qb’s are shining.
but missdick is such a dick that i almost want them to fail so i can rub it in his face.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Nix announced this week he is returning to school.—————————————————————-
Thats what he says know, but what if Bob Diaco leaves for the nfl?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I’m telling you guys, Romac suffers from lethargy addiction.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
KookYell sez: “Lol, you’ve been following me around so long, have you ever heard of the word Plagarism, dumbass?”
Well, then you should know we all know who you post under.
Your boss and hey man, get that raise however you can. I hope he uses protection.
Now. How about your keep your nightmare to yourself. Till you come up with…sumptin’…I got nuthin’ for ya.
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Oh, you’re cross poster Brien?, Why didn’t you say so?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Carson IS our QB.Period.He will restructure.
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unfortunately according to solomon wilcots allen did say during an interview
“carson is the qb of the future”
December 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
KoolKell, if we are to be a moral society, shouldn’t the state be held to the same laws as everyone else? Why should the state be allowed a monopoly on violence, theft and counterfeiting?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Thats what he says know, but what if Bob Diaco leaves for the nfl?
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Well he seems like a great kid, and referenced his mom and all this family stuff about getting a diploma, so that would be pretty cold if he just said, “Nah….f all that, I’m bailing”.
Don’t see it.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
You all can kiss my ass. Yeah, I am proud that my wife has a job. Don’t be jealous that your wife doesn’t. Maybe she should have stayed in school. lol.
Admit it, you’re jealous that while you’re working, I’m kicking back.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
KoolKell, if we are to be a moral society, shouldn’t the state be held to the same laws as everyone else? Why should the state be allowed a monopoly on violence, theft and counterfeiting?
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If you’re against law and order for the common good, take your dumbass to Somalia, like I told you before.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
You all can kiss my ass. Yeah, I am proud that my wife has a job. Don’t be jealous that your wife doesn’t. Maybe she should have stayed in school. lol.
Admit it, you’re jealous that while you’re working, I’m kicking back.
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“Melting down” ? Lmao.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Why be a Raider fan if you refer to having our QB here for the future, as unfortunate?
Pryor is not starting here next year, get over that sh1t.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
rob parker and his “babershop crowd” are nearly identical to people like fangs and his “trailer crowd”. ignorant racists who can only see skin color. trying to hold others back be refusing to let them just be people.
i like newton, griffin, wilson, freeman, pryor. they’re fun to watch and i’m rooting for them. i think it’s cool that more black qb’s are shining.
but missdick is such a dick that i almost want them to fail so i can rub it in his face.
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Shows you how stupid you are. Mistic stirs the pot every chance he gets, because he knows slow posters will take the bait.
You always take the bait. And Mistic laughs at you.
Personally I think Mistic is MR, who always has posted just for effect.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Carson IS our QB.Period.He will restructure.
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unfortunately according to solomon wilcots allen did say during an interview
“carson is the qb of the future”
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Not seeing a lot of “unfortunate” in that. I am seeing someone who is #1 of the depth chart that no one else can be able to beat out. Unless we go for your “coach sabotaging the team for some nefarious reason” theory. Just like Bush OK’d the planes to fly into the Trade Center and then demolished the buildings to galvanize the public. Only that is more believable.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
2cents, I admire your persistence. It even suggests this kookyell might have a mind. Remind me. When did he indicate that?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Honestly, the change in the o-line and offensive coaching staff in general is the one thing that will stick with me long after this season is over. Satele was a part of that, though I didn’t think it would make such a difference at the time. Down the road, we’ll all remember how Reggie let DA fire-bomb a potentially potent offense with a retread from the Lance era.
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LOL!…Thank you.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Priest,
That is deep and verifies what my father told me. i asked him what happened to the movement and he said “we went from revolutionaries to superfly over night”.
I have respect for you priest. i also agree that power is the main issue.
My concern is the condition of black people world wide. We seem to be at the bottom and in the most desperate condition all over the world including here. I do not believe it is simple happen stance.
i think it is constructive for us to try and repair and heal ourselves. as it is clear like hurricane, Katrina no help is coming any time soon.
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yeah, ur worried about black people u don’t know all over the world simply cuz they’re black.
while people like me are worried about people in general, cuz we’re interested in the welfare of all people.
ur part of the problem, not the solution.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
2cents, I admire your persistence. It even suggests this kookyell might have a mind. Remind me. When did he indicate that?
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Who’d you post as yesterday, coward?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell, calling people “dumbass” is not going to cut it. If the majority says that black people are to be slaves then what is your response?
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Kell would state if you can’t beat them, join them. That’s what Uncle Tom’s do. Right Kell? You failed in business. couldn’t keep a job. I looked you up, man. You married the homeliest white woman you could find, hoping she would support you.You tried real estate, which everybody tries when they can’t keep a job, thinking it’s an easy paycheck. But you actually had to get up off your ass, which you refuse to do.
It’s blacks like you that set back the cause.
Some make things happen. Some like you watch others make things happen, then complain about it.
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Oh Snap! This had to be reposted.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says: Cover up for government’s crimes get rewarded..see Gerald Ford, Arlen Specter.
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We got a Warren Report sighting in here?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I’ll wake up tomorrow at 10. What time do you losers have to get up? Yeah, I thought so.
I’ll be kicking it at the barbershop, while you’re stuck in traffic.
Eat your hearts out, biches.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Looks like David Shaw wasn’t kidding when he said he wanted to “leave a legacy at Stanford much greater than Jim Harbaugh and Bill Walsh”.
Dude re-upped with Stanford. His remaining two years have been replaced by a ‘long-term extension’. School wouldn’t give up the goods, but, its being reported it’s a five-year deal.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mistic spouted:
The bought Bill Cosby’s stand up and tell his brothers to lay down their arms, and go along with Whitey. LaBron stays in the penthouse of hotels owned by Whitey, while he tips his hispanic maid more than the black cook in the kitchen making his salads makes in a week.
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I’m guessing that the amount of those tips have much less to do with skin color and much more to do with the shapeliness of the maid’s butt.
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i have no clue what this drivel is about
I certainly didnt say that
my post was coded for those with the ears to hear it.
If it wasnt for you you will never get it.
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u couldn’t code anything. ur too dumb. but u think ur smart. a bad combo.
December 19th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Robert Keith Johnson?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Kookyell is a self described: Rat. Racist. Maligner.
Obviously in need of professional help, hey, even a good bartender might work. Yet, he seems to have “esteem” around here.
What is with that, folks. Is it kinda like the dumb butt cousin that keeps showing up for family dinners? Something I don’t know besides the obvious…he’s an illiterate butt hook incapable of a conversation?
What?
December 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Save the names, Kell. That act is old.
We’ve seen a pic of your wife. Most brothers marry a fat blonde. In this case a skinny white woman married the pudgy black guy. She just had no idea she would be stuck supporting you all these years.
Doesn’t that embarrass you, as a black man?
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why does he have to do what u think he should do? maybe they loved each other. people like u like to be divisive. divide people into acceptable groups. ur blind boy. ur living in the past in a failed mindset. people are people dummy. let ‘em live.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
R00ter is a cross posting Btch. Coward.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Save the names, Kell. That act is old.
We’ve seen a pic of your wife. Most brothers marry a fat blonde. In this case a skinny white woman married the pudgy black guy. She just had no idea she would be stuck supporting you all these years.
Doesn’t that embarrass you, as a black man?
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why does he have to do what u think he should do? maybe they loved each other. people like u like to be divisive. divide people into acceptable groups. ur blind boy. ur living in the past in a failed mindset. people are people dummy. let ‘em live.
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That’s not Priest, as you probably know, cross poster.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Great David Shaw re=upped…There went one of my candidates Mark…Guess it’s all in for Gruden.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
kell–i’ve asked u before. what other handles have i supposedly posted as? ur an idiot by the way.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
r00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Kookyell is a self described: Rat. Racist. Maligner.
Obviously in need of professional help, hey, even a good bartender might work. Yet, he seems to have “esteem” around here.
What is with that, folks. Is it kinda like the dumb butt cousin that keeps showing up for family dinners? Something I don’t know besides the obvious…he’s an illiterate butt hook incapable of a conversation?
What?
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KoolKell was busted years ago cross posting, after he told everyone he was behind the push to register. Since then KoolKell spends his days here, posting under numerous handles, many times to himself.
This is old news.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Great David Shaw re=upped…There went one of my candidates Mark…Guess it’s all in for Gruden.
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accept the reality. DA is the raiders coach and will be for next season. get over it.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
KoolKell, why should I move to a corrupt state when I have the grand daddy of all corrupt states right here at home?
America, love it or leave? This is my home. I am trying to change it by withdrawing my consent from the ruling class. We only need about 20% of the populace to topple the crooks and despots. I am not a great orator, but am hoping that my views will influence some to take a path toward liberty.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
You never know.
Money talks — especially a lot of it.
But, I’m a firm believer Shaw is going to fulfill his contract at Stanford. He wants to be better known at the school than Bill Walsh. And that’s going to take years of being great.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
r00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Kookyell is a self described: Rat. Racist. Maligner.
Obviously in need of professional help, hey, even a good bartender might work. Yet, he seems to have “esteem” around here.
What is with that, folks. Is it kinda like the dumb butt cousin that keeps showing up for family dinners? Something I don’t know besides the obvious…he’s an illiterate butt hook incapable of a conversation?
What?
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KoolKell was busted years ago cross posting, after he told everyone he was behind the push to register. Since then KoolKell spends his days here, posting under numerous handles, many times to himself.
This is old news.
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ur old news sullivan. ur the biggest cross poster the board has ever seen. and always accusing others of it.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Carson IS our QB.Period.He will restructure.
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unfortunately according to solomon wilcots allen did say during an interview
“carson is the qb of the future”
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Not seeing a lot of “unfortunate” in that. I am seeing someone who is #1 of the depth chart that no one else can be able to beat out.
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i see 8-16 and 37 turn overs as unfortunate, perhaps that is good enough for you.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
LOL
Jeff Van Gundy ragging on Ewing about him missing out on having lunch with him because he had to go to spin class.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
It’s sad that I’m more excited to see the new kick-off rule get instituted than I am to watch the Raiders next year?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Doc Bob, it appears you are a shrink. Good. Besides saying all the “right” things, you know, the feel good things, how about giving Kookyell a free session. right here, in front of all his friends. Don’t worry, he has no shame and we know ALL there is, except of course, what your trained techniques can dig down and unearth.
Yep, that’s the word. Unearth.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Save the names, Kell. That act is old.
We’ve seen a pic of your wife. Most brothers marry a fat blonde. In this case a skinny white woman married the pudgy black guy. She just had no idea she would be stuck supporting you all these years.
Doesn’t that embarrass you, as a black man?
***********
why does he have to do what u think he should do? maybe they loved each other. people like u like to be divisive. divide people into acceptable groups. ur blind boy. ur living in the past in a failed mindset. people are people dummy. let ‘em live.
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You’re pretty slow on the uptake, aren’t you? Let’s assume they did love each other. Wasn’t the point, was it? Point was after the vows, the wife went to work, and Kell lied, saying he was working, when instead he’s blogging all day, all night, every day.
Funny that Kell continues to insult you, and you blindly continue to pick him up off the carpet.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
KoolKell, why should I move to a corrupt state when I have the grand daddy of all corrupt states right here at home?
America, love it or leave? This is my home. I am trying to change it by withdrawing my consent from the ruling class. We only need about 20% of the populace to topple the crooks and despots. I am not a great orator, but am hoping that my views will influence some to take a path toward liberty.
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Is that why you people want machine guns, to shoot secret govt agents, black helocopters, and the freedom to shoot down 5 yr old kids?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Miami,
That’s hilarious! I can only imagine how awkward Ewing looks at a spin class. He probably goes there to meet chicks.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Priest,
That is deep and verifies what my father told me. i asked him what happened to the movement and he said “we went from revolutionaries to superfly over night”.
I have respect for you priest. i also agree that power is the main issue.
My concern is the condition of black people world wide. We seem to be at the bottom and in the most desperate condition all over the world including here. I do not believe it is simple happen stance.
i think it is constructive for us to try and repair and heal ourselves. as it is clear like hurricane, Katrina no help is coming any time soon.
******************
yeah, ur worried about black people u don’t know all over the world simply cuz they’re black.
while people like me are worried about people in general, cuz we’re interested in the welfare of all people.
ur part of the problem, not the solution.
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cross poster you must come to know
1. my people are not your concern, and we dont want or need your input help or approval
2. you are not qualified nor do you have the right to prescribe for us any ’solution”
3. You are not qualified to diagnose our “problem”
4. you are free to worry about whom ever you choose it is of no consequence to me whatsoever
5. screw off
December 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Alex7, I know what I’m doing ok? Do you have any enlightening football takes, you little gossipy Btch?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
I’ll wake up tomorrow at 10. What time do you losers have to get up? Yeah, I thought so.
I’ll be kicking it at the barbershop, while you’re stuck in traffic.
Eat your hearts out, biches.
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The real KK usually uses ‘Btchs’. Details, details.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Next season is going to be crazy for the AFC West. Pioli and Crennell will be gone in KC, Norv and Smith will be out in SD, and Denver will definitely add a running back to shore up their offense. Our days of taking advantage of weaker opponents are coming to an end.
Reggie better get his sh!t together ASAP.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Miami,
That’s hilarious! I can only imagine how awkward Ewing looks at a spin class. He probably goes there to meet chicks.
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I hope he’s in work out clothes that will contain his sweat. lol
December 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@218
“1. my people are not your concern, and we dont want or need your input help or approval”
Are you advocating segregation, Mistic? Now I’ve heard it all!
December 19th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell, I do not think that a machine gun will protect me from your all powerful state. And I don’t advocate for a violent revolution. I believe that if enough people could see the truth of our history and the history of the ruling classes, we could vanquish them and send them scurrying back into the holes they came out of.
The question is, are you for liberty or will you go back into your hole?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I didn’t hear anything about segregation.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Ha Ha! Based on the first half of the article, it should have been titled “Coach Allen Figuratively Kicks Slolando In The Nutsack!”
Reggie had better be a miracle worker – long suffering Raider fans deserve better and are more than tired of this ten year losing @*!$# – I know that I am tired of it. Turnarounds are QUICK nowadays, and we should expect NO LESS… NO EXCUSES NEXT YEAR. Cap will be right… we have enough draft and FA room to make some solid moves. 8-8 or better should be attainable. Again – NO EXCUSES.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Mistic’s all for isolating himself and his people from interaction with others. If that’s not segregation, I don’t know what is.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell, I do not think that a machine gun will protect me from your all powerful state. And I don’t advocate for a violent revolution. I believe that if enough people could see the truth of our history and the history of the ruling classes, we could vanquish them and send them scurrying back into the holes they came out of.
The question is, are you for liberty or will you go back into your hole?
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Name one damn society in human history, you’d prefer?
You people never been out of the country, and know all about societies all over the world.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Kookyell sez: “Duh…”
December 19th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I keep looking at all the coverage of Adrian Peterson coming back from a debilitating knee injury to threaten the single-season yardage record and I keep cursing because there was a time when I thought that DMAC was at least comparable to him. Those were the days.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Mistic’s all for isolating himself and his people from interaction with others. If that’s not segregation, I don’t know what is.
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Then maybe you ought to read some recent American History. Segregation was a legal construct.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Mistic, you seem to be getting all righteous, hey even puffy, with us. This black thing you got going? REspect it? Believe in it?
Then make a joke of it by posting on a football blog, acting all indignant? Please.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Wait, segregation was a construct of some kind in American History? I’m not sure I know what you’re referring to. Was it our unwillingness to join WWII?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Another benefit of the Raiders winning again will be less “non-football” discussion over nothing on here. I visit to see the football banter, not all of the other stuff. There is enough to discuss with the state of the Raiders than all of the other stuff. C’mon guys, get back to football talk. There are plenty other places to vent your opinion.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Sorry; I went to Hillsdale College.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Mistic, you seem to be getting all righteous, hey even puffy, with us. This black thing you got going? REspect it? Believe in it?
Then make a joke of it by posting on a football blog, acting all indignant? Please.
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At least he doesn’t change his handle every other day. Stands by his words.
Not like cross posting cowards.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
You’re right, Mr. Bushay, but every time I bring myself to think about Raiders topics, I get extremely depressed and respond to trolls. It’s a vicious cycle that’s dominated this blog over a decade of frustration.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
r00der Says:
Kookykells… …he’s an illiterate butt hook incapable of a conversation?
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Well, I had to google butt hook and eventually got to this: “A complete jerk. A highly unpleasant person. A real bastard.” So that works. But what I learned before getting to that definition was pretty educational.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Sorry; I went to Hillsdale College.
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Lol.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Purv,
If you want an educational experience, Google “hentai” and see what happens.
May God have mercy on your soul.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
KoolKell, this argument between liberty and slavery has been going on for a long time. If you are serious about the true history of the world, I would gladly give you a reading list, most of them are free on mises.org.
Warning, you have to learn some economics but you will be surprised at how enlightening it is.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Doc, kookyell provided enuff evidence. What’s your theory? Don’t say narcissist, we know that.
So lazy the only attention he gets is…here? Must be a name for that.
Oh, since you are so slow on the uptake, notice his fixated repetitions? Shhh, we’ll honor the confidentiality clause in your hail mary.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Mistic’s all for isolating himself and his people from interaction with others. If that’s not segregation, I don’t know what is.
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I didnt say anything like that.
I do believe though that our community can and must solve our own issues
December 19th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
Is that why you people want machine guns, to shoot secret govt agents, black helocopters, and the freedom to shoot down 5 yr old kids?
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Not the kids, you dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Twocents Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
KoolKell, this argument between liberty and slavery has been going on for a long time. If you are serious about the true history of the world, I would gladly give you a reading list, most of them are free on mises.org.
Warning, you have to learn some economics but you will be surprised at how enlightening it is.
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Thanks! I love to learn.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I’ve read Adam Smith, John Maynard Keynes, Milton Freedman. Mao tse tung, Conficious, the Budda, I’m reading a Thomas Jefferson biography right now.
Plus, I’ve been fortunate enought to travel and live the world. So you can take your condescension and stick it up your A. Ok?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
God, Romney is such a cheap s!ut:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/news-outlets-battle-romney-campaign-over-expenses
I don’t particularly care for the media, but how could he think to rip them off and get away with it?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
Is that why you people want machine guns, to shoot secret govt agents, black helocopters, and the freedom to shoot down 5 yr old kids?
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Not the kids, you dumbass.
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But that’s who go shot, wasn’t it dumbass.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Trying to work my way through Cloud Atlas right now. There are nice themes based on eternal return and Hegelian trends, and the writing is solid for contemporary fiction.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Aha, there you are kookyell. Been waiting. You got this thought rattling around in your head like a bowling ball in a railroad car, that you are the smartest guy in the room.
and there you are, Mr. Duh, to prove it. Clever.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
R00ter, I stand by my opinions. I don’t cross post.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
reggie svcks get over it…
December 19th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
That’s IT? What opinions? You just dabble in intellect while you fritter away, whiling the time with your lessors?
Cool. More interesting than most I’d say. Even fooled the doc.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
The craziest thing would be for our team to win out the next two games. Then we’d only be 2 wins behind where we were last year, even though this season was so much worse than that.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Kell? You’re reading Thomas Jefferson bio?
YOU POSTED MONTHS AGO THAT YOU HAD JUST READ IT, AND POINTED OUT HE OWNED SLAVES.
Now you’re running that BS again?
You’re so slow you can’t even remember what you said.
EXPOSED!!! Lying ass coward.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
That’s IT? What opinions? You just dabble in intellect while you fritter away, whiling the time with your lessors?
Cool. More interesting than most I’d say. Even fooled the doc.
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Quit following me around troll.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Kell? You’re reading Thomas Jefferson bio?
YOU POSTED MONTHS AGO THAT YOU HAD JUST READ IT, AND POINTED OUT HE OWNED SLAVES.
Now you’re running that BS again?
You’re so slow you can’t even remember what you said.
EXPOSED!!! Lying ass coward.
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Provide a link Btch.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Papertiger418
The Panthers have been so up-and-down this season, the game on Sunday is a toss-up.
And San Diego, Raiders lost that game because Jon Condo went out with an injury.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
R00ter, I stand by my opinions. I don’t cross post.
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LIAR. You were busted, along with Seymour/Oakglen.
You’re old. You forget things. Conveniently. Whenever you’re busted, you all of a sudden can’t remember things.
And save that lived the world bull. You were a cook in the Navy. That’s not living the world, you fat unemployed tub of lard. Going on vacation for a week or two isn’t living the world, you lying POS.
You’re a liar, Kell. Nothing you say can be believed.
Tell us again about the really big house you live in.
And then I’ll post a link where you were busted living in a run down shack.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Jackasspuria,
Sure, but the funny thing is that the tone of our defeats seem so much less competitive than those of last year. Of course we gave up big leads or 99 yd drives last season, but this year we weren’t even in a position to throw away games. It’s so depressing, but in the end the records won’t be that far apart.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Panthers 38 Raiders 13
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
KoolKell didn’t say anything about Tom J owning salves, it was Mistic…
Here is a response to a Mistic post by Kell
KoolKell Says:
November 6th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner but he kept a black (slave) girlfriend. they produced children that Jefferson sold and kept as slaves
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I’m reading “Master of the Mountain” by Henry Wiencek right now.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
R00ter, I stand by my opinions. I don’t cross post.
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LIAR. You were busted, along with Seymour/Oakglen.
You’re old. You forget things. Conveniently. Whenever you’re busted, you all of a sudden can’t remember things.
And save that lived the world bull. You were a cook in the Navy. That’s not living the world, you fat unemployed tub of lard. Going on vacation for a week or two isn’t living the world, you lying POS.
You’re a liar, Kell. Nothing you say can be believed.
Tell us again about the really big house you live in.
And then I’ll post a link where you were busted living in a run down shack.
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Whatever, you jealous little cross posting Btch, provide a link.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Kell? You’re reading Thomas Jefferson bio?
YOU POSTED MONTHS AGO THAT YOU HAD JUST READ IT, AND POINTED OUT HE OWNED SLAVES.
Now you’re running that BS again?
You’re so slow you can’t even remember what you said.
EXPOSED!!! Lying ass coward.
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Provide a link Btch.
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Damn. You can’t even remember you said that? You are an old fool.
Ok. I’ll dig it up, and post the results a few dozen times, just to extend the laughter.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Papertiger418
Yes, the end result will be the same — no playoffs.
Sadly, kind of getting used to that last 13 years.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
da kook sez: Quit following me around troll
I would be remiss if I didn’t point out WHO is piggybacking here. No matter. I have expressed my for your “scheme” in life and wish you well. We are all actors, n’est pas?
I will honor your wishes, no matter how hard your contributions cry out: “ME…ME…ME”. Its all yours. Oh, forgive me if I do find a reason to post…for others. You ok with that?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
KoolKell didn’t say anything about Tom J owning salves, it was Mistic…
Here is a response to a Mistic post by Kell
KoolKell Says:
November 6th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner but he kept a black (slave) girlfriend. they produced children that Jefferson sold and kept as slaves
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I’m reading “Master of the Mountain” by Henry Wiencek right now.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
“I personally think we’re farther along than I thought we would.” —-reggie at training camp…
farther from winning…
December 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
R00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
da kook sez: Quit following me around troll
I would be remiss if I didn’t point out WHO is piggybacking here. No matter. I have expressed my for your “scheme” in life and wish you well. We are all actors, n’est pas?
I will honor your wishes, no matter how hard your contributions cry out: “ME…ME…ME”. Its all yours. Oh, forgive me if I do find a reason to post…for others. You ok with that?
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Go fk yourself and quit following me around.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Miami, if you love to learn, try and get through this dense little piece of a lecture on evolution and the nature of the individual. It’s nuts, but I like it.
[Eamonn Healy]:
If we’re looking at the highlights of human development, you have to look at the evolution of the organism and then at the development of its interaction with the environment. Evolution of the organism will begin with the evolution of life perceived through the hominid coming to the evolution of mankind. Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man. Now, interestingly, what you’re looking at here are three strings: biological, anthropological — development of the cities — and cultural, which is human expression.
Now, what you’ve seen here is the evolution of populations, not so much the evolution of individuals. And in addition, if you look at the time scales that are involved here — two billion years for life, six million years for the hominid, 100,000 years for mankind as we know it — you’re beginning to see the telescoping nature of the evolutionary paradigm. And then when you get to agricultural, when you get to scientific revolution and industrial revolution, you’re looking at 10,000 years, 400 years, 150 years. You’re seeing a further telescoping of this evolutionary time. What that means is that as we go through the new evolution, it’s gonna telescope to the point we should be able to see it manifest itself within our lifetime, within this generation.
The new evolution stems from information, and it stems from two types of information: digital and analog. The digital is artificial intelligence. The analog results from molecular biology, the cloning of the organism. And you knit the two together with neurobiology. Before on the old evolutionary paradigm, one would die and the other would grow and dominate. But under the new paradigm, they would exist as a mutually supportive, noncompetitive grouping. Okay, independent from the external.
And what is interesting here is that evolution now becomes an individually centered process, emanating from the needs and desires of the individual, and not an external process, a passive process where the individual is just at the whim of the collective. So, you produce a neo-human, okay, with a new individuality and a new consciousness. But that’s only the beginning of the evolutionary cycle because as the next cycle proceeds, the input is now this new intelligence. As intelligence piles on intelligence, as ability piles on ability, the speed changes. Until what? Until we reach a crescendo in a way could be imagined as an enormous instantaneous fulfillment of human? human and neo-human potential. It could be something totally different. It could be the amplification of the individual, the multiplication of individual existences. Parallel existences now with the individual no longer restricted by time and space.
And the manifestations of this neo-human-type evolution, manifestations could be dramatically counter-intuitive. That’s the interesting part. The old evolution is cold. It’s sterile. It’s efficient, okay? And its manifestations of those social adaptations. We’re talking about parasitism, dominance, morality, okay? Uh, war, predation, these would be subject to de-emphasis. These will be subject to de-evolution. The new evolutionary paradigm will give us the human traits of truth, of loyalty, of justice, of freedom. These will be the manifestations of the new evolution. And that is what we would hope to see from this. That would be nice.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Someone brought up Franchising Shane this year since no one else on our Roster is worth it. Then we’d just have to pay Shane the average pay of a punter
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Knew that sounded to good to be true. From Wickepedia;
“The NFL requires that a franchise player be paid at least the average of the top 5 players in the league at his position, or 120% of his previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.”
December 19th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
And? That’s a recap of a movie, not a book. And…that proves YOUR point?
December 19th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Damn. You can’t even remember you said that? You are an old fool.
Ok. I’ll dig it up, and post the results a few dozen times, just to extend the laughter.
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Proceed Govenor, provide a link Btch.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Philip Adams has a torn of heart and passion, however, multiple concussions is never a good thing.
When he blitzed and took down Charles in the backfield last Sunday against the Chiefs, it was at thing of beauty.
But taking Charles’ knee to the side of his head/neck area left him unconscious.
Can’t take too many more head shots when you’ve sustained a concussion or two.
December 19th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Whoops, that would be ton of heart, not torn heart.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Jack, does that mean we sit him down, even retire him? Don’t we need fodder? Isn’t this our christians against the lions?
December 19th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
“…but he’s acting like a real head coach.”–reggie on DA
maybe you should get a real coach
December 19th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
forget about the competition, the players played hard on sunday. if they do it again this week, win or lose, i’ll be fine with DA coming back next year.
these same players quit on Hue last year, and anyone who was paying attention knows that to be true. Hue even blamed them for it during his last press conference.
you can all circle jerk to the big name divas that you want to come in here and rule the roost, but i’m looking for stability and some semblance of a plan.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Christians against lions would be throwing Leinhart or Pryor in there against another team’s defense with this o-line and a glimmer of a rushing attack.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
R00der
Nah, play the man.
He’s young and wants to prove himself.
My concerns are:
A. Will the latest concussion make Adams more conservative when covering and tackling the opposition?
B. Will he continue to be tenacious and end up scrambling his noggin’ again?
December 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
ban politics and racial overtones in this blog…1 nation
December 19th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
You’ll have an easier time banning guns, C2E.
Zing!
December 19th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
“I do think we’ve got some real defensive coaches, a real coordinator.” reggie on tarver
if thats real give us fake back!
December 19th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
“With these DBs, I want to see what shakes itself out…” –reggie on his corners.
only the worst passing defense in decades…
December 19th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
The vessels of the Vulchitrun treasure are the earliest evidence of Thracian art. Their exceptional
workmanship seems to confi rm Homer’s admiration for the skills of the Thracian masters. During
the Old Iron Age, geometrical art continued to exist and the main objects that were produced were
cult axes, amulets, and bronze ornaments on horse trappings.
The classical period started with the emergence of the fi rst Odryssean kingdom. Masters gradually
abandoned the anachronistic geometrical style and turned their attention to the major players on
the world art market: Achaemenid Persia and Greece. The imported objects that have been found
attest to direct links between Thrace and Persia. The infl uence of Greece steadily grew through trade
with the Greek colonies on the Black sea coast and the conquests of Philip of Macedon and his
successors.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Al_is_theraiders
I would see what Dick LeBeau could do with this motley crew of players on the defensive side of the ball in Oakland.
LeBeau is a defensive mastermind, but, even he would have trouble generating a solid unit out of the current crew.
Even worse, LeBeau couldn’t stop the Knapp-time offense in the Steelers’ defeat in Oakland.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Rocky Marciano once said, when asked about his strategy in a fight:
“I hit them in the fists with my face till their arms get tired, then I know them out.”
Give me some lineman like that.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
sorry “…then I knock them out.”
December 19th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Tigre,
I need more of that! lol
Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01hbkh4hXEk&feature=player_embedded
I think you’ll find this interesting.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Kuechly what Raiders thought they had in McClain The player the Raiders envisioned as the leader of their defense for years will be on full display Sunday, when the Raiders play the Carolina Panthers. Problem is, that player will be the one in the middle of the Panthers defense and not Rolando McCl… [...]
December 19th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
lebeau is getting run out of town in pittsburg…they are realizing they cannot win with him anymore…
December 19th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
R00der
Raiders need Lincoln Kennedy type brute-force offensive lineman.
Like what I see out of Veldheer and Wizniewski. They are the only two Raider lineman ranked in the top 10 at their positions by ProFootballFocus.
Man, even Barrett Robbins type brute-force O-lineman will suffice. Of course, that is pre-Mexico trip Robbins.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
papers are calling him out…
December 19th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
If we’re going to talk Greeks, we have to bring this whacky gadget up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
They built an analog computer 100 years before Jesus!
December 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 6th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner but he kept a black (slave) girlfriend. they produced children that Jefferson sold and kept as slaves
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I’m reading “Master of the Mountain” by Henry Wiencek right now.
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I guess maybe KK reads a lot of Jefferson biographies or he’s a slow reader.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Wasn’t Todd Bowles — Eagles D-coordinator and former Dolphins D’ boss — a young defensive mastermind? He was interviewed by McKenzie during the Raiders coaching search, I believe.
When he took over Eagles D, it got worse.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
292…agreed 100% none of this small weak stuff like carlisle or briesel
December 19th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Near the end of the nineteenth century, E. S. Smith patented the chloralkali process: a method of producing sodium hypochlorite involving the electrolysis of brine to produce sodium hydroxide and chlorine gas, which then mixed to form sodium hypochlorite.[2] Both electric power and brine solution were in cheap supply at the time, and various enterprising marketers took advantage of the situation to satisfy the market’s demand for sodium hypochlorite. Bottled solutions of sodium hypochlorite were sold under numerous trade names.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders
I believe getting beat by the Knapp-time offense is a career-ender.
LeBeau is probably going to retire — he’s the definition of old-timer — but, if cut loose by Pittsburgh, there will be teams interested.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 6th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner but he kept a black (slave) girlfriend. they produced children that Jefferson sold and kept as slaves
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I’m reading “Master of the Mountain” by Henry Wiencek right now.
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I guess maybe KK reads a lot of Jefferson biographies or he’s a slow reader.
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At least I read, gossipy Btch.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
we need norv back….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/19/norv-talks-about-becoming-a-coordinator-again/
December 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Miami,
I’ve heard that they’ll be able to completely map and replicate the human brain within the next two decades. That and the singularity of artificial intelligence frighten me more than anything. Ultimately, we may only be a bridge to the creation of AI, which would manage to exist beyond us.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I know that neither Barksdale or Campbell have done much since being traded. But i think for a team as weak as we are with Line Depth, Reggie gave up on these young players way to quickly. He was also to quick to trade Murphy when all he saw from the Rookie WR’s were in OTA’s
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Barksdale has filled in well when Safford was hurt. I watched him against GB & he looked good at LT. But hey Reggie, who knows everything, had to cut him to get Willie Smith in here. I’m sure Bergstrom will get 3 more years to prove he’s worthless but hey they complain about depth here.
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Totally agree with these guys.
Goodson’s been a nice addition at backup RB and KR, but our RT, RG and LG positions all need to be upgraded and those are the spots where Barksdale and Campbell would’ve been played at.
I’m especially a big believer in Bruce Campbell. I understand why coaches shy away from him. His technique needs to improve. But every time the kid played I watched him very closely and saw him handle his man. He does it too much with his freakish physical tools and is a bit sloppy at times, I think because he’s probably always been able to get away with doing it that way. Anyway, that guy had way, way too much upside to give up on.
Instead we have Bergstrom. Not fair to assess him yet. Hasn’t really had a shot. But it is troubling that he couldn’t even see the field when Willie Smith was getting beat like a drum for half the season. Brisiel has also been utterly replaceable. On top of that, while he’s a rookie, he’s already 26 years old. That’s right. Bergstrom is 2 years older than Bruce Campbell.
Campbell was worth developing. That’s not a guy you give up on without first letting him see the field in real game action.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:54 pm Proceed Govenor, provide a link Btch.
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Well, four or five of us provided the link, Kell. Kell? Kell?
December 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Jack, there was NEVER a Raider lineman to compare to what we had in the 70s. Otto, Upshaw, Shell. All in the HOF, unchallenged. Ran over them, buried them then spit in their face. With respect, of course.
Did I forget the big lug, 87?
December 19th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
And yes, as much as I hate retreads, I would definitely welcome Norv back.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Norv is an outstanding play-caller.
He made Alex Smith competent when he was O-coordinator in SF.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
i can assess bergstrom…he svcks…he got pushed back 6 yards everytime he was in there…i was watching him specifically
December 19th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
R00der
Of course I remember those big nasties.
I was referring to more recent brutes in case there were youngin’s in the audience.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Why Bergstrom isn’t starting now is further proof of the coaching staff being terrible. I mean, there’s no way we’re bringing Brisiel and Barnes back as starters, right? Why not get the rookie some real game action at this point? I realize they’re throwing him in there on occasion as an extra lineman. Not nearly the same thing as playing an entire game at the position. Practically worthless for experience and evaluation.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
kennedy, middleton…robbins…freakin monsters
December 19th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
At least I read, gossipy Btch.
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You got called on your BS, disappeared for half an hour, and this is it?
December 19th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:54 pm Proceed Govenor, provide a link Btch.
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Well, four or five of us provided the link, Kell. Kell? Kell?
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You didn’t provide schit. A poster with integrity did. Which proved my point.
Then you little gossipy Btch jumps in because you’ve got nothing of any worth to say. That’s you, you gossip
December 19th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Palmer says Knapp told team offense would start season slow
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/12/19/palmer-says-knapp-told-team-offense-would-start-season-slow/ …
Twitter
December 19th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
At least I read, gossipy Btch.
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You got called on your BS, disappeared for half an hour, and this is it?
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I haven’t disappeared gossipy little Btch. I’m right here.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Miami,
I’ve heard that they’ll be able to completely map and replicate the human brain within the next two decades. That and the singularity of artificial intelligence frighten me more than anything. Ultimately, we may only be a bridge to the creation of AI, which would manage to exist beyond us.
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It’s frightening as well as exciting. I’ll be pretty old once 2045 arrives but if i’m still around, it’ll be interesting to see how far we’ve come along with information technology and it’s use on humans.
Hopefully Sky Net doesn’t attack before that. lol
December 19th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Wide receiver Juron Criner (hip), tight end Richard Gordon (biceps), cornerback Phillip Adams (concussion) and safety Mike Mitchell (stinger) are at practice despite suffering injuries against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday.
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in other words, the Raiders will win on Sunday!
December 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Al trying to compare eras in football is not really feasible. BUT, I give you Shell, Upshaw and Caspar…and they would kick butt now.
I don’t add Otto, and that’s not disrespect. He was just too light in the azz. He played at around 220, even lighter. I’d start him at linebacker, tho, first game in uniform and at that position.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
oh yeah no comparison..no argument either. just trying to get the youngsters in the convo…
December 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
pick.
50.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The Kuechly vs McClain comparison could be done with ever draft pick the raiders have made over 10yrs.
The Raiders don’t get production and its fanbase excuses this situation with talk about decoys, potential and “hard work”.
As for CP and DHB saying we keep the team together…I say no way! Those two are among the 1st that need to be run off. This roster needs nothing less than a thorough pressure washing. Get these underperforming check cashers outta here.
I am tired of the excuses and bs. Alas, this sad team is near the top in payroll.
Clean House!
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something to be said for that too. I agree goes to show u why Raiders have sucked since Gruden. Say what you want about Tebow but he has one more playoff games then Carson palmer, he led a 1-4 team to the playoffs and help put DA on the map and get him a JOB
December 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
wonder if knapp told them his offenses svck even more the next season?…what a way to start your job…”im gonna stink up the joint at first…” nice parachute
December 19th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
r00der Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Al trying to compare eras in football is not really feasible. BUT, I give you Shell, Upshaw and Caspar…and they would kick butt now.
I don’t add Otto, and that’s not disrespect. He was just too light in the azz. He played at around 220, even lighter. I’d start him at linebacker, tho, first game in uniform and at that position.
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I hear ya, but not fair to compare the weights from that era to today’s. If those guys had the benefit of today’s training methods and there were as many resources invested, I’m sure most could get up to a comparable playing weight.
It’s really only fair to compare guys to those they played against in their own era.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Letting Mike Bush go was huge.Reggie sucks.
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It’s been reported we offered him as much as money as the Bears, and Bush told us to piss off.
Too much of losing around here turned him off.
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quit crying about Bush already
December 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Adam Caplan@caplannfl
With Michael Bush on IR today, he may have played his last down for the Bears; has $1 M RB due on 3rd day of free agency. $1.5 M base.
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Maybe get back bush for the league min. I’d rather draft Lacey out of Bama or stefan taylor out of stanford
December 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
I know, Al. First generation Raider fans were/are a part of a phenomena, a true mergence of team and fans. They were EVERYWHERE, accessible. Walk up, buy them a drink, they’d catch the next round. Raiderettes? Wow, totally before PC neutered them. Party girls and ALSO accessible. Oakland in the 70s. I’m sorry for you young folks, we have the World champion A’s (3 times in a row); World champion Warriors, who changed the way basketball was played; and…the fookin RAIDERS.
It’s harder on us, young uns, we KNOW what its all about. We had the taste on our tongue. We were a part of it. We simply had more fun.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Chicago Tribune said Mike Bush signed with Bears because he was promised the team would go with back-by-committee.
And how has that gone?
Forte is bell cow, Bush is part-timer, if that.
Should have stayed in Oakland. I mean Bush had to know McFadden would go down at some point and he would be starter.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Chris sez: “I hear ya, but not fair to compare the weights from that era to today’s”.
Of course, Chris, of course. The guys I mentioned, tho, could walk on any football field. I know Jim Otto, and could not say he could compete at center. I DID say, that today, that tough, tough, smart dude he could walk out there as a linebacker.
Again, I know comparing isn’t valid. I was responding to another’s comments. Your pts are valid.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Bush and Campbell both proved that our starters are only 2nd stringers on most other teams.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Letting Mike Bush go was huge.Reggie sucks.
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It’s been reported we offered him as much as money as the Bears, and Bush told us to piss off.
Too much of losing around here turned him off.
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quit crying about Bush already
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Bush and Campbell were on “Bears All Access” on the radio earlier in the season and talked glowingly of their time in Oakland. Bush said Raider fans were “the best fans in football” he then realized what he just said and added “but it’s great to be here in Chicago”.
Bush and Campbell acted like Oakland was a cool place to play and even played up the Raider “mystique”.
NOT ONE thing even remotely negative was said between the two of them about Oakland.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Miami, if you love to learn, try and get through this dense little piece of a lecture on evolution and the nature of the individual. It’s nuts, but I like it.
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I liked it too. Thought he slipped in a couple shaky premises/conclusions that, if faulty, somewhat undermine what follows. Sounds like he was speaking off the cuff a bit, though. Not getting into that debate in here, however. Definitely made me google him. Thank you.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Bush probably thought, what players this offseason might think if we fire everybody again;
Another head coaching change? No Thanks!
December 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Maybe Bush didn’t want to run sideline to sideline.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Maybe he’s not a fan of the ZBS?
December 19th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Maybe not.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Bush ran in the ZBS just fine at Louisville and under Cable-led Raiders.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
All I know is that I drafted Bush in my Fantasy Football league thinking that Forte’s ankle wouldn’t hold up and twinkle toes ended up getting one good game against the Colts early in the season. Maybe one more against Minnesota, but man was he disappointing.
December 19th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Old kell are you really that slow?…Iv never tried to hide my name here,..my email which has my name on it I posted here more then once,..I sent pics to MR,(ABP), a couple weeks ago when he wanted pics of me with Mark and Reg,…dude Iv never been secretive about me or my name, Iv met several people here from this blog…my name is common knowledge to quite a few in here,..matter of fact Iv invited you several times to join us at our tailgate,…but youv always refused…most here know my name, Briens name,..I know TheC`s name,..HawaiinRaiders name,…you I guess were just one of the last to know,…all you had to do was ask me my name dude, would have told you.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Evening, Nation!
Seems like everyone’s here tonight! Only missing Beeech.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
players want to be acknowledged…reggie and DA have been treating all these players like the practice squad…no one us going to want to stay or come here…in year 3 we will have the slowest, weakest yes men in the league…
December 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Proof that Larry Fitzgerald could never be a Raider:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/19/larry-fitzgerald-benefits-from-mma-training-but-hell-never-fight/
Not that he’d come here anyway. Guy wants to go to a contender.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Now I have to get packing for my make believe flight to Maui tomorrow,..to that imaginary house I dont own in Kaanapali,…aloha!!
December 19th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Letting Mike Bush go was huge.Reggie sucks.
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It’s been reported we offered him as much as money as the Bears, and Bush told us to piss off.
Too much of losing around here turned him off.
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quit crying about Bush already
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Bush and Campbell were on “Bears All Access” on the radio earlier in the season and talked glowingly of their time in Oakland. Bush said Raider fans were “the best fans in football” he then realized what he just said and added “but it’s great to be here in Chicago”.
Bush and Campbell acted like Oakland was a cool place to play and even played up the Raider “mystique”.
NOT ONE thing even remotely negative was said between the two of them about Oakland.
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Bush was a mistake, but does anyone think , had the injury not happened to Campbell we would be at 8-8 or 9-7 this year?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Scourge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Evening, Nation!
Seems like everyone’s here tonight! Only missing Beeech.
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Thats a blessing.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Al is right.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Bush’s best year here was 2011, behind a bully Oline. Not a ZBS.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Al_is_theraiders
You’re saying the Raiders roster will resemble the Cowboys!?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Adam Caplan@caplannfl
With Michael Bush on IR today, he may have played his last down for the Bears; has $1 M RB due on 3rd day of free agency. $1.5 M base.
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Maybe get back bush for the league min. I’d rather draft Lacey out of Bama or stefan taylor out of stanford
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Dont know if Lacy is entering draft…he’s projected to the third round and so is Stepfan Taylor. (i get the feeling he’ll be a better pro than collegiate player)
December 19th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
hwnrdr…you know where to find us, the cave,..Hyatt…we will be there most of January…you have my email…hit me up…the rest of you,..my seasons over, not bothering the Panther or Charger game, was going to attend it but we leaving earlier then planned,…not into this blog, as some are, in the off season,..unless my dream comes true and Jon is announced as our new coach I will cya all around the draft…its been a great year…I have all my faith in Reggie,…and told him so again last Sunday,…aloha!!
December 19th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Now I have to get packing for my make believe flight to Maui tomorrow,..to that imaginary house I dont own in Kaanapali,…aloha!!
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You’re a lying cross posting troll, who’s been banned from here many times.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Bush averaged nearly five yards a carry in the ZBS.
The great thing about Mike Bush is he’s a running back that showed he could succeed in any scheme in Oakland.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Bush and Campbell both proved that our starters are only 2nd stringers on most other teams.
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Supposedly all Raiders benefitted their teams (with exception of Campbell) , Satele, Murphy, Bush, Wimbley and Trevor Scott all were role players and contributed – Murphy had 21 recepts for Panthers and pushed past Brandon LaFell as their key deep threat….the Panthers will try Campbell at LT next year.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Now I have to get packing for my make believe flight to Maui tomorrow,..to that imaginary house I dont own in Kaanapali,…aloha!!
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You’re a lying cross posting troll, who’s been banned from here many times.
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Whats next cross posting troll DNA tests on Maury?
G
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…before its too late.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I know that neither Barksdale or Campbell have done much since being traded. But i think for a team as weak as we are with Line Depth, Reggie gave up on these young players way to quickly. He was also to quick to trade Murphy when all he saw from the Rookie WR’s were in OTA’s
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Barksdale has filled in well when Safford was hurt. I watched him against GB & he looked good at LT. But hey Reggie, who knows everything, had to cut him to get Willie Smith in here. I’m sure Bergstrom will get 3 more years to prove he’s worthless but hey they complain about depth here.
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Totally agree with these guys.
Goodson’s been a nice addition at backup RB and KR, but our RT, RG and LG positions all need to be upgraded and those are the spots where Barksdale and Campbell would’ve been played at.
I’m especially a big believer in Bruce Campbell. I understand why coaches shy away from him. His technique needs to improve. But every time the kid played I watched him very closely and saw him handle his man. He does it too much with his freakish physical tools and is a bit sloppy at times, I think because he’s probably always been able to get away with doing it that way. Anyway, that guy had way, way too much upside to give up on.
Instead we have Bergstrom. Not fair to assess him yet. Hasn’t really had a shot. But it is troubling that he couldn’t even see the field when Willie Smith was getting beat like a drum for half the season. Brisiel has also been utterly replaceable. On top of that, while he’s a rookie, he’s already 26 years old. That’s right. Bergstrom is 2 years older than Bruce Campbell.
Campbell was worth developing. That’s not a guy you give up on without first letting him see the field in real game action.
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I said this when Reggie did it, and i’ve been saying it all year. Reggie was way to quick to prejudge players just because they were good athletes that also goes for DVD and Checkwa and TJ. He just stereotyped them because they ran fast he assumed they couldn’t play. The same thing DA is doing to Pryor “he’s just an athlete attitude without spending the requisite time to coach and develope them they dismiss them as Al Davis HWS types. Never giving them the benefit of a decent look. And it has hurt this team.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
My mistake kell,..yes, I was Amysincharge. My bad. But that was never banned,..I changed to this one due to my wanting Gruden back.
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You’re a damned liar. Cork sent me an email after he banned you. Told me he’s been trying to keep you off the blog for years.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I too was miffed when the Raiders let Samson Satele walk.
He excelled in the ZBS and showed he could do well in the power blocking scheme.
Leaving him at center — or moving him to guard — would have allowed Wizniewski to stay at guard — or move to center.
Still, ProFootballFocus ranks Wiz 2.0 in the top 10 of NFL centers this season.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Just move Taiwan Jones to corner already.
Don’t need to worry about “security and fumbling issues” if he’s a corner.
Jones has proven to be quite the gunner/tackler on special teams.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
David Shaw showing his adoration and sincere love for Stanford…
“Put it this way,” Shaw said, after waving off all guesses. “I want to be around until my kids graduate from here. And I have a 2-year-old.”
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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If they were to play Taiwan and he looked good. DA, Knapp would look like fools wouldn’t they? That’s probably why.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Reggie let our best running back walk.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
The Tampa Bay Bucs have set the precedent…
How long before an Oakland Raiders player pushing a coach on the sideline?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Goodson has been way better then bush aside from his 1yard TD RUNS.
Goodson has few attempts but way more YPC.
Also has a long TD out of the backfield running and recieving.
Why pay 9 million dollars to a backup RB? u probaly are gonna be able to get him for league min this next season. Bears are gonna cut him
December 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Alright gentleman. I’m currently blogging from my private jet and the champagne is getting me a bit groggy. Flying into Paris after my uncle Greg said he wasn’t going to let me call any plays this weekend in Carolina. Nice talking to you guys!
December 19th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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If they were to play Taiwan and he looked good. DA, Knapp would look like fools wouldn’t they? That’s probably why.
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Of course so why take the chance just wait until we can cut him or pretend we coached him up next year. These coaches are a complete joke!
December 19th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Reggie let our best running back walk.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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Yes, they should have kept Bush. DMAC-Bush combo was good. Also should have kept power blocking scheme. So much Fail
December 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Whats Up Nation!
Question for you guys:
If Teo measures at 6′0” tall at the combine do we still take him if he’s on board when we pick?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
504 Raider
If history plays itself out, I could see McKenzie taking Te’o if on the board when Raiders pick in the first round.
McKenzie was part of a Packers team which selected AJ Hawk in the first round. Hawk is listed at 6-foot-1, but he’s closer to 6-even than his listed height.
I hope McKenzie goes other way — Packers drafted Desmond Bishop out of Cal in late rounds and he flourised — before injury — into a dependable linebacker.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I kinda like Jakie Bibby’s idea of getting that back-up MLB from San Fran #54. Then drafting Star from Utah.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
504 Raider
If Raiders land Star Lutele from Utah, in the first round, I would be elated.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
111.Raiderbuck Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Adams is proof this coaching staff can’t see talent, and our rushing TD’s (3, the fewest in the NFL) they don’t know what to do with it when they have it.
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Our staff couldn’t find a set of tits in a strip club.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Just got watching the Raider-Chiefs highlights from NFL Network…
Deon Sanders always good for a laugh. They showed Branch’s hit on Moeaki…
Prime Time: “Man, Moaeki should have taken a swing at Brady Quinn in the huddle for throwing him that ball.”
Other guy: “Branch was flagged for that.”
Prime Time: “For what? Hitting him too hard?”
December 19th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
6-0 is not terribly short for a mlb. I think the normal range at the position is probably like 6-0 to 6-3, right.
Still, I wouldn’t take Te’o in the top five. If we trade down to the teens I’d be OK with taking him there. Though there still may be other guys I’d take in that range instead too. And I’m an ND fan.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Chris In NY
What’s the name of the Irish’s nose tackle?
He’s a big boy and aggressive as well.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Zach Thomas was 5′11?…I’m guessing here.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Miami
London Fletcher is 5-foot-10.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I kinda like Jakie Bibby’s idea of getting that back-up MLB from San Fran #54. Then drafting Star from Utah.
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Can’t argue with that. Star + Grant would be solid additions. I’m partial to the A&M LT Joeckel a little more than Star right now, but in doing that you also get into a spot of having to kick either Veldheer or Joeckel over to RT. So it’s a little dicey.
Still, I’d love it if we could build a juggernaut o-line to open holes for DMC and give Palmer the time to pick defenses apart.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
They have been using Taiwan as a gunner for 8 weeks yet he’s too injured to get a single snap at HB. I have been watching football for dman near 50 I have never witnessed such moronic reasoning. It’s much more dangerous and physically demanding to be a gunner as it is to be a HB especially when you’re asking for 3-5 snaps a game.
Yet this idiot coach wants us to believe TJ is NOT healthy enough to get a single carry from scrimage. What exactly does he take us for………embiciles?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Jonathan Vilma 6′0”
December 19th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
#1:
You’ll get your answers if you read widely in the field of evolutionary biology and population genetics.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
They have been using Taiwan as a gunner for 8 weeks yet he’s too injured to get a single snap at HB. I have been watching football for dman near 50 I have never witnessed such moronic reasoning. It’s much more dangerous and physically demanding to be a gunner as it is to be a HB especially when you’re asking for 3-5 snaps a game.
Yet this idiot coach wants us to believe TJ is NOT healthy enough to get a single carry from scrimage. What exactly does he take us for………embiciles?
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In your case, imbecile,
I believe so.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
“Take Te’o”
Admittedly, I don’t know enough about this young man.
Does he have the speed and strength for the top echelon of the NFL?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
111.Raiderbuck Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Adams is proof this coaching staff can’t see talent, and our rushing TD’s (3, the fewest in the NFL) they don’t know what to do with it when they have it.
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Our staff couldn’t find a set of tits in a strip club.
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H’YUK, H’YUK, SNORT!!Oh man. That’s sum funny stuff there….
Back in the 40’s.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
It’s a clear case of the blind leading the blind…….period
December 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Good ole Alex7! hahaha
December 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Primary draft need
Elite Pass Rusher
Then cb, te, qb
December 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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If they were to play Taiwan and he looked good. DA, Knapp would look like fools wouldn’t they? That’s probably why.
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TWO OF THE ABSOLUTE DUMBEST POSTS OF THE MONTH, POSTED BY TWO OF THE DUMBEST POSTERS!
The irony.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Chris In NY
What’s the name of the Irish’s nose tackle?
He’s a big boy and aggressive as well.
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Louis Nix. Real, real good. Team just announced that he’s going back to ND for his senior year and won’t enter the draft though.
To me Te’o is good, but the ND d-line is better. Should be a good matchup against Bama’s vaunted o-line. But if you ask me, ND’s d-line wins that battle.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
It’s a clear case of the blind leading the blind…….period
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Don’t be so hard on you and Kell.
I’m curious. Which one of you are leading?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Chris In NY
Damn! I just read Nix is going back.
It will be interesting, like you said, Manti had studs up front.
It seems most of the great middle linebackers have equally great d-lineman in front of them.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
\ officials are screwing over the warriors….
December 19th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
It’s a clear case of the blind leading the blind…….period
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Don’t be so hard on you and Kell.
I’m curious. Which one of you are leading?
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Gossipy little Btch.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Harrison Barnes is way too passive for his talent, they will get much better when he starts being much more assertive. He’s just way too talented to defer all the time.
They need him to at times take over and force defenses to come off Curry and Thompson.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Carson IS our QB.Period.He will restructure.
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unfortunately according to solomon wilcots allen did say during an interview
“carson is the qb of the future”
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Not seeing a lot of “unfortunate” in that. I am seeing someone who is #1 of the depth chart that no one else can be able to beat out.
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i see 8-16 and 37 turn overs as unfortunate, perhaps that is good enough for you.
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any nfl person would laugh u out the door. ur football acumen is so poor that ur a joke.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
KK he didn’t get his warm milk and cookie so he needs a hug…..before bed.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
He’s got nothing to add to this blog but gossip.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
The W’s would have 5 fewer wins without DLee…..man he saves their ass a bunch.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Save the names, Kell. That act is old.
We’ve seen a pic of your wife. Most brothers marry a fat blonde. In this case a skinny white woman married the pudgy black guy. She just had no idea she would be stuck supporting you all these years.
Doesn’t that embarrass you, as a black man?
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why does he have to do what u think he should do? maybe they loved each other. people like u like to be divisive. divide people into acceptable groups. ur blind boy. ur living in the past in a failed mindset. people are people dummy. let ‘em live.
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You’re pretty slow on the uptake, aren’t you? Let’s assume they did love each other. Wasn’t the point, was it? Point was after the vows, the wife went to work, and Kell lied, saying he was working, when instead he’s blogging all day, all night, every day.
Funny that Kell continues to insult you, and you blindly continue to pick him up off the carpet.
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i don’t defend kell. he’s an idiot. i defend his and everyone’s right to do whatever they plaease as long as they’re not hurting someone else (jokes pertaining to kell’s hurting her by lying on top of her are permitted at this time). and the ridiculously outdated racism inherent in expecting a black man to follow a set of rules in order to be a “real brother”.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
If Nix is that DT that wears a single digit number for Notre Dame, yeah that dude is a beast. Every ND game I saw, he stood out more than Teo to me.
You gotta love a 300 pounder who wears a single digit number on his jersey. Provided he’s not the QB.
December 19th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
So much animosity going on in here.
Let’s all try and get along
Whaddya say?
December 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
When you’re kept away from from people and in the room half the time. Where else can he get the attention.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Here’s who I like this weekend:
- Panthers -8.5 vs. Raiders
- Bengals +3.5 at Steelers
- Patriots -14.5 at Jags
- Colts -6.5 at Chiefs
- Saints +2.5 at Cowboys
- Giants -2.5 at Ravens
- Rams-Bucs Under 43.5
December 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Boy you guys work hard to creat animousity between people don’t you. Well post whatever you wish I’m way above your ignorance and hatred…….but hey what els can your puny mind come up with for taking up space on earth.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Priest,
That is deep and verifies what my father told me. i asked him what happened to the movement and he said “we went from revolutionaries to superfly over night”.
I have respect for you priest. i also agree that power is the main issue.
My concern is the condition of black people world wide. We seem to be at the bottom and in the most desperate condition all over the world including here. I do not believe it is simple happen stance.
i think it is constructive for us to try and repair and heal ourselves. as it is clear like hurricane, Katrina no help is coming any time soon.
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yeah, ur worried about black people u don’t know all over the world simply cuz they’re black.
while people like me are worried about people in general, cuz we’re interested in the welfare of all people.
ur part of the problem, not the solution.
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cross poster you must come to know
1. my people are not your concern, and we dont want or need your input help or approval
2. you are not qualified nor do you have the right to prescribe for us any ’solution”
3. You are not qualified to diagnose our “problem”
4. you are free to worry about whom ever you choose it is of no consequence to me whatsoever
5. screw off
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1) u don’t have any people. ur decision to include urself in an imaginary group simply cuz u share a basic skin color is ludicrous and arbitrary. u share far more in common with whites and browns that live in ur neighborhood.
2) u are ur own worst enemy. u hold urself down with all of ur bigotry.
3) i bet i have more black friends than u, and they are my people and i am theirs.
4) as a person of intelligence, i am far more qualified to identify problems and solutions to any situation, including so-called race relations, than u any day of the week. being black doesn’t make u special in any way. just happened to pop outta ur mama with her skin. ur ignorance makes u stupid.
5) ur the kind od person who expects all “black” people to only do business with other “black” people and u yearn for an all-black community, business, and football league. u said it urself. ur mad at athletes for playing for white owners or for staying in their hotels. u demand that other people who don’t know u or have anything to do with u, act as u see fit cuz they’re in ur “group”, which they may not want to be in. ur a racist, a bigot, and azzhole.
6) keep posting cuz u make me laugh. now dance.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Unbelievable, my post responding the garbage Kell Mystic and Priest all spout is scrubbed even though it has no cuss words or no insults besides the obvious idea that these guys are blackcentric racists. Steve no more – you go kick rocks. Either ban all this polical crap or none of it. I will get my Raider info somewhere else you and Jerry are usually scooped anyways!!!!!!!!!!!! So sick of hearing this ignorant dribble that these guys post as if they are some kind of wise sages.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I didn’t hear anything about segregation.
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yes u did. u just didn’t realize it. missdick wants blacks to only do business with other blacks, and if u play football for a white owner, u are owned by him and are a sellout.
this is the kind of talk, by any color person, that has divided people unnecessarily for thousands of years. missdick doesn’t have anything to do with u or millions of other blacks. he doesn’t know u. he doesn’t have ur interests in mind. he thinks he knows what is good for u more than u know for urself.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
If we draft Manti Teo then we’ll have to set up an extra week for bible study in the off-season workouts. As long as the kid can ball, that’s all I care about.
Again, can’t wait to see where Romac ends up. That guy is an accident waiting to happen.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Unbelievable, my post responding the garbage Kell Mystic and Priest all spout is scrubbed even though it has no cuss words or no insults besides the obvious idea that these guys are blackcentric racists. Steve no more – you go kick rocks. Either ban all this polical crap or none of it. I will get my Raider info somewhere else you and Jerry are usually scooped anyways!!!!!!!!!!!! So sick of hearing this ignorant dribble that these guys post as if they are some kind of wise sages.
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What did Priest do? Lol. Oh he’s black?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Divide and conguer it’s an oold worn out trick….
December 19th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
My wife and friends think I’m sweet guy……………oh we’ll, go figue.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Mistic’s all for isolating himself and his people from interaction with others. If that’s not segregation, I don’t know what is.
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I didnt say anything like that.
I do believe though that our community can and must solve our own issues
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there is no such thing as a black community. if u embrace that notion, then u are simply focuing on skin color as some sort of bond. which it isn’t. ur community includes ur family, ur friends, ur neighborhood, ur town, ur country, and the world, in that order. there are also sub-communities like this one, or fans of hip-hop, or fanboys who like batman, etc. putting urself into a group that includes approximately a quarter of the world just cuz of skin color is laughable and always has been. that what makes all racists idiots.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Panthers 38 Raiders 13
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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anti-raider.
death to bad doctors.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Kell, it’s because you save your rage for the internet. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I didn’t hear anything about segregation.
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yes u did. u just didn’t realize it. missdick wants blacks to only do business with other blacks, and if u play football for a white owner, u are owned by him and are a sellout.
this is the kind of talk, by any color person, that has divided people unnecessarily for thousands of years. missdick doesn’t have anything to do with u or millions of other blacks. he doesn’t know u. he doesn’t have ur interests in mind. he thinks he knows what is good for u more than u know for urself.
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Look dude. Yes we’re both black as far as I know. But I speak for myself, as KoolKell since this blog opened. He speaks for himself.
He postulates something and, you with your understanding put words in his mouth, IMO.
You’re the one obsessed?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Why Bergstrom isn’t starting now is further proof of the coaching staff being terrible. I mean, there’s no way we’re bringing Brisiel and Barnes back as starters, right? Why not get the rookie some real game action at this point? I realize they’re throwing him in there on occasion as an extra lineman. Not nearly the same thing as playing an entire game at the position. Practically worthless for experience and evaluation.
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barnes is for sure coming back. if u don’t realize he’s pretty solid, then ask urself when the line started doing better. it was immediately upon his return. brisiel is questionable but they want to give him a shot at getting it together. it’s far more likely bergstrom will take over for carlisle, 36 next season, as planned.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Letting Mike Bush go was huge.Reggie sucks.
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It’s been reported we offered him as much as money as the Bears, and Bush told us to piss off.
Too much of losing around here turned him off.
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quit crying about Bush already
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i expect to see olawale in the mix for goal-line carries soon. he may be a find.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
KK, Robby_Doc thinks his opinion is the only one that counts…….lol
December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Kell, it’s because you save your rage for the internet. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.
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I kick cross posters in the azz with my wit. Plus drop lots of Raider/Football knowledge, if the trolls allow me
December 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
The only thing I’m mad about is those 5yr olds shot down, and 3-10.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I know that neither Barksdale or Campbell have done much since being traded. But i think for a team as weak as we are with Line Depth, Reggie gave up on these young players way to quickly. He was also to quick to trade Murphy when all he saw from the Rookie WR’s were in OTA’s
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Barksdale has filled in well when Safford was hurt. I watched him against GB & he looked good at LT. But hey Reggie, who knows everything, had to cut him to get Willie Smith in here. I’m sure Bergstrom will get 3 more years to prove he’s worthless but hey they complain about depth here.
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Totally agree with these guys.
Goodson’s been a nice addition at backup RB and KR, but our RT, RG and LG positions all need to be upgraded and those are the spots where Barksdale and Campbell would’ve been played at.
I’m especially a big believer in Bruce Campbell. I understand why coaches shy away from him. His technique needs to improve. But every time the kid played I watched him very closely and saw him handle his man. He does it too much with his freakish physical tools and is a bit sloppy at times, I think because he’s probably always been able to get away with doing it that way. Anyway, that guy had way, way too much upside to give up on.
Instead we have Bergstrom. Not fair to assess him yet. Hasn’t really had a shot. But it is troubling that he couldn’t even see the field when Willie Smith was getting beat like a drum for half the season. Brisiel has also been utterly replaceable. On top of that, while he’s a rookie, he’s already 26 years old. That’s right. Bergstrom is 2 years older than Bruce Campbell.
Campbell was worth developing. That’s not a guy you give up on without first letting him see the field in real game action.
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I said this when Reggie did it, and i’ve been saying it all year. Reggie was way to quick to prejudge players just because they were good athletes that also goes for DVD and Checkwa and TJ. He just stereotyped them because they ran fast he assumed they couldn’t play. The same thing DA is doing to Pryor “he’s just an athlete attitude without spending the requisite time to coach and develope them they dismiss them as Al Davis HWS types. Never giving them the benefit of a decent look. And it has hurt this team.
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ur so stupid. if u read between the lines, they have campbell playing behind their starting LT. he’s not in their plans. he’s a backup.
anti-speed? u mean like their devotion to dmc, dhb, moore, branch, huff?
do u even think these things thru?
chekwa basically sucks. dvd did suck. jones will be a CB next year. pryor will be a WR next year. some fast guys suck. some don’t.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ur are a complete moron!
December 19th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
December 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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If they were to play Taiwan and he looked good. DA, Knapp would look like fools wouldn’t they? That’s probably why.
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Of course so why take the chance just wait until we can cut him or pretend we coached him up next year. These coaches are a complete joke!
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HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA!
it’s a conspiracy! the coaches don’t want to put players on the field that are secretly awesome, even though no one has ever witnessed that being the case!
LOL!!!
December 19th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Phillip Adams is a pure speed cornerback added by McKenzie.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
The only thing I’m mad about is the way in which we’ve lost pretty much all of those games. I could take a bad record if we were in most of those games and playing teams tough but instead we look like a bunch of amateurs out there. It really gets my goat!
December 19th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Whats Up Nation!
Question for you guys:
If Teo measures at 6′0” tall at the combine do we still take him if he’s on board when we pick?
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who cares how tall he is? he’s a great player.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ur are a complete moron!
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Cross posting trolls, this is all they do. He’s probably mad now.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Chris In NY
What’s the name of the Irish’s nose tackle?
He’s a big boy and aggressive as well.
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nix. he’s not coming out.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
They have been using Taiwan as a gunner for 8 weeks yet he’s too injured to get a single snap at HB. I have been watching football for dman near 50 I have never witnessed such moronic reasoning. It’s much more dangerous and physically demanding to be a gunner as it is to be a HB especially when you’re asking for 3-5 snaps a game.
Yet this idiot coach wants us to believe TJ is NOT healthy enough to get a single carry from scrimage. What exactly does he take us for………embiciles?
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man u are dumb. he doesn’t play cuz he fumbles, can’t block, and doesn’t know his assignments. they’ve said it a dozen times.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
For all his off-field issues, Darrell Russell was a hellava defensive tackle during his early years in Oakland.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
man u are dumb. he doesn’t play cuz he fumbles, can’t block, and doesn’t know his assignments. they’ve said it a dozen times.
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We know they said it dumbass! We all know what they said. All year, we’ve heard what they said.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
They have been using Taiwan as a gunner for 8 weeks yet he’s too injured to get a single snap at HB. I have been watching football for dman near 50 I have never witnessed such moronic reasoning. It’s much more dangerous and physically demanding to be a gunner as it is to be a HB especially when you’re asking for 3-5 snaps a game.
Yet this idiot coach wants us to believe TJ is NOT healthy enough to get a single carry from scrimage. What exactly does he take us for………embiciles?
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In your case, imbecile,
I believe so.
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ok, that was funny.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Shutdown Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
“Take Te’o”
Admittedly, I don’t know enough about this young man.
Does he have the speed and strength for the top echelon of the NFL?
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yes. he was a top recruit coming into college, and a dominant force for four years. his impact on that defense, not only thru his play, but his leadership, was incredible. it’s the best defense notre dame has EVER had, and he is a huge reason.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Primary draft need
Elite Pass Rusher
Then cb, te, qb
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we have a 4th year TE who is about to have 80+ catches. and TE is the 3rd priority?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I remember talking to a USC assistant who told me the reason Manti Te’o decided to go to Notre Dame instead of USC was one of the coaches told Te’o it would take two years to get into the Trojans’ starting lineup.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
It’s a clear case of the blind leading the blind…….period
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u and missdick? i agree.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Why Bergstrom isn’t starting now is further proof of the coaching staff being terrible. I mean, there’s no way we’re bringing Brisiel and Barnes back as starters, right? Why not get the rookie some real game action at this point? I realize they’re throwing him in there on occasion as an extra lineman. Not nearly the same thing as playing an entire game at the position. Practically worthless for experience and evaluation.
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barnes is for sure coming back. if u don’t realize he’s pretty solid, then ask urself when the line started doing better. it was immediately upon his return. brisiel is questionable but they want to give him a shot at getting it together. it’s far more likely bergstrom will take over for carlisle, 36 next season, as planned.
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Brisiel has been pretty awful and he’s due big money for a guard. He’s gotta go or Chubby Checker has no credibility.
Barnes is stop-gap material. I’d like him better as a backup. Line got better when he returned, but Willie Smith was really, really bad in his place. Barnes is at least competent on most plays.
Carlisle needs to be replaced soon as well. He’s OK, but getting up there in age.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
A touch of levity:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/browns-reject-concept-of-controlling-own-playoff-d,5963/
It combines two of my favorite things, football and existential crises. I suppose I was meant to be a Raiders fan.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Chris In NY
What’s the name of the Irish’s nose tackle?
He’s a big boy and aggressive as well.
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Louis Nix. Real, real good. Team just announced that he’s going back to ND for his senior year and won’t enter the draft though.
To me Te’o is good, but the ND d-line is better. Should be a good matchup against Bama’s vaunted o-line. But if you ask me, ND’s d-line wins that battle.
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best pro from that team will be stephon tuitt. 6′6″ 300 and runs like an LB.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I remember talking to a USC assistant who told me the reason Manti Te’o decided to go to Notre Dame instead of USC was one of the coaches told Te’o it would take two years to get into the Trojans’ starting lineup.
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I recall Te’o being the most highly touted defender in that class. Was a real coup for Charlie Weis to get him. I doubt that assessment, unless Matthews-Maualuga-Cushing were slated to be there for two more years at the time.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
#433 Jackasspuria
I believe Manti Teo told Dan Patrick that he was all set to go to USC until receiving a vision from God that ultimately steered him towards ND.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Raiders must defeat San Diego; although I think it is important we defeat Carolina as we need to put that east coast 10am losing streak to the graveyard.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
If Nix is that DT that wears a single digit number for Notre Dame, yeah that dude is a beast. Every ND game I saw, he stood out more than Teo to me.
You gotta love a 300 pounder who wears a single digit number on his jersey. Provided he’s not the QB.
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been there, done that.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Chris In NY
I remember asking Rey — he’s from Eureka — about Manti and he was stoked. Ask him about Te’O again when he decided on Notre Dame and Rey was more than disappointed.
He really wanted to play alongside a Samoan brotha.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Brisiel has been pretty awful and he’s due big money for a guard. He’s gotta go or Chubby Checker has no credibility.
Barnes is stop-gap material. I’d like him better as a backup. Line got better when he returned, but Willie Smith was really, really bad in his place. Barnes is at least competent on most plays.
Carlisle needs to be replaced soon as well. He’s OK, but getting up there in age.
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I’ve been hearing all the parrots in here repeat what a bust Briesel has been. I haven’t seen it. I’ve seen him get beat about as often as I’ve seen Carlisle and even Wiz get beat.
Meanwhile, I’ve seen Barnes look like he’s standing still when dealing with speed rushers at times.
In my mind Briesel is the third best blocker on the line, ahead of Carlisle and Barnes. What am I missing?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Chris In NY
Whoa, messed that all up.
Rey really wanted Te’O to go to USC.
He can’t wait for Manti to get to NFL to see what he does at next level.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Phillip Adams is a pure speed cornerback added by McKenzie.
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…..and he looks back at the ball and tries to make plays.
He’s got enough speed where he feels comfortable enuff to look back at the ball and still know he can catch up to the receiver.
I’m impressed with Adams.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
DJ Johnny
Agreed.
I just wanted to point out McKenzie loves himself some speed too.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Has anyone else seen Silver Linings Playbook? Robert De Niro’s character reminded me of some of the posters in here.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Meted is a good te, great backup te; most of his rec were garbage time, dropped three TD rec this year, he is a keeper, nut not a probowler.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Can somebody tell me why we don’t see Marcel Reece more often?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I was really bummed out to see that Adams had gotten concussed again during the Chiefs game. He seemed to show some flash at the position, actually playing the ball instead of trailing receivers like Routt always used to.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
We should definitely bring out Goodson and Reece against the Panthers. DMAC doesn’t need to incur any more damage and Reece should have already earned his carries by now.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
DJ Johnny
Agreed.
I just wanted to point out McKenzie loves himself some speed too.
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Good point. Just like somebody else we all knew and loved. Lol.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Brisiel has been pretty awful and he’s due big money for a guard. He’s gotta go or Chubby Checker has no credibility.
Barnes is stop-gap material. I’d like him better as a backup. Line got better when he returned, but Willie Smith was really, really bad in his place. Barnes is at least competent on most plays.
Carlisle needs to be replaced soon as well. He’s OK, but getting up there in age.
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I’ve been hearing all the parrots in here repeat what a bust Briesel has been. I haven’t seen it. I’ve seen him get beat about as often as I’ve seen Carlisle and even Wiz get beat.
Meanwhile, I’ve seen Barnes look like he’s standing still when dealing with speed rushers at times.
In my mind Briesel is the third best blocker on the line, ahead of Carlisle and Barnes. What am I missing?
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Not much. Veldheer has had a very solid year again. The real problems with the Raiders have been their internal triangle, a backup turnstile at RT and no production from McFadden. Well, the internal triangle (G/C/G) have played better the last two or three weeks. It takes time for offensive lines to pull it together but it looks like they are playing better.
Barnes coming back into the lineup has solidified the RT position. Barnes is a better pass protector than run blocker, but with sooooooo many problems expect Barnes for another year. McFadden to me at least, has been the biggest disappointment on the Raider roster.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Brisiel has been pretty awful and he’s due big money for a guard. He’s gotta go or Chubby Checker has no credibility.
Barnes is stop-gap material. I’d like him better as a backup. Line got better when he returned, but Willie Smith was really, really bad in his place. Barnes is at least competent on most plays.
Carlisle needs to be replaced soon as well. He’s OK, but getting up there in age.
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I’ve been hearing all the parrots in here repeat what a bust Briesel has been. I haven’t seen it. I’ve seen him get beat about as often as I’ve seen Carlisle and even Wiz get beat.
Meanwhile, I’ve seen Barnes look like he’s standing still when dealing with speed rushers at times.
In my mind Briesel is the third best blocker on the line, ahead of Carlisle and Barnes. What am I missing?
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Bad penalties. Sacks. Getting pushed 5 yards into the backfield on too many running plays.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
If we draft Manti Teo then we’ll have to set up an extra week for bible study in the off-season workouts. As long as the kid can ball, that’s all I care about.
Again, can’t wait to see where Romac ends up. That guy is an accident waiting to happen.
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because of his youth and draft postiion, mcclain will likely be picked up by someone, but will either be cut in preseason or during the season, never to appear in the nfl again.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Wisniewski needs to go back to LG, he was probowl bound; unless he makes that jump this offseason at center. Would like to see Reggie draft or FA sign a great center. Wisniewski & Vehldeer complimented each other, worked excellent together.
Trade proposal: Janokowski and DMac for Cousins.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Can somebody tell me why we don’t see Marcel Reece more often?
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Reece is not the fastest guy on earth, so you have to create mismatches and disguises for him. And teams are figuring out that he is a weapon and trying to take him away. Without guys like DHB, Dmac and Moore really dominating their guys, it puts a lot of pressure on Marcel to beat him being keyed which is really tough.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RaiderRetribution
ProFootballFocus — a site which NFL sites and beat writers often refer to — has Wizniewski ranked as a Top 10 center this season. He and Veldheer are the only two Raider lineman graded positively.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Meted is a good te, great backup te; most of his rec were garbage time, dropped three TD rec this year, he is a keeper, nut not a probowler.
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Yeah. I think we could use an elite TE and a much better blocker at the position. Myers’ numbers are largely due to the system and inability of the WRs to consistently get open up.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RaiderRetribution
ProFootballFocus — a site which NFL sites and beat writers often refer to — has Wizniewski ranked as a Top 10 center this season. He and Veldheer are the only two Raider lineman graded positively.
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Any idea where they rank Brisiel and Carlisle?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
IF IF IF IF IF IF somehow we can trade down and pickup a 2nd round pick.
Draft dion jordan, Xavier Rhodes and pick up a NT/DT in the 2nd round I would be fine with the rest of the draft. Something to that effect. IT would be money!!
Trade DMAC for a 2nd pick up another player. Thats how u build a team. DMAC will not be back after next year. He is gonna go to a winning team in FA.
Trade him now
December 19th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
KK, Robby_Doc thinks his opinion is the only one that counts…….lol
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well, i’m usually right, but that’s not the point.
i make fun of racists, anti-raiders, troublemakers, etc. ur both in that group.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Kell, it’s because you save your rage for the internet. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.
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I kick cross posters in the azz with my wit. Plus drop lots of Raider/Football knowledge, if the trolls allow me
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if by crossposters, u mean everyone who says anything about u, and if by, with, u somehow mean ur a knitwit, then yes, i agree.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Chris In NY
ProFootballFocus is very hard on those two — being they are ZBS specialists.
Carlisle’s play and Brisiel’s play as of late have then in bottom 10 of their respective positions.
December 19th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Most HC’s are free to hire their own assistants. If you watch Allen during games his coordinators and assistants are the ones running the show.
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Most HC’s are free to hire their own assistants. If you watch Allen during games his coordinators and assistants are the ones running the show.
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Dude Seymour, I know your heart is in the right place. but I busted my gut when I read this. If I was DA with all these assistant coaches running my team into the ground I would be hotter than a jalepeno pepper. What the heck is DA even needed for if these so called ‘assistants’ are running the show. I wanna see him take the bull by the balls and be a man about it. Maybe he doesn’t know his so called ‘assistants’ are beating his team to a pulp. Seriously, what does he do?
December 19th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
The only thing I’m mad about is those 5yr olds shot down, and 3-10.
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true dat though.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Shutdown Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
“Take Te’o”
Admittedly, I don’t know enough about this young man.
Does he have the speed and strength for the top echelon of the NFL?
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yes. he was a top recruit coming into college, and a dominant force for four years. his impact on that defense, not only thru his play, but his leadership, was incredible. it’s the best defense notre dame has EVER had, and he is a huge reason.
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The issue is; Would Te’o be a better pick and by trading down we’d get additional picks or do we stay at 3 and get OL Joeckel or DL Star Louletelei or Johnathan Hankins?
Do you move McFadden for what you could get – a 2nd a 3rd and then get an additional pass rusher to compliment your DL / OL, then cover ILB later in draft or FA?
btw, here’s some footage of Manti Te’o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfkFuJDPd4
December 19th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
They treat Taiwan Jones like a leper because e runs too fast.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ur are a complete moron!
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Cross posting trolls, this is all they do. He’s probably mad now.
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back up ur bullsh!t kell. what other handles do i have liar?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
man u are dumb. he doesn’t play cuz he fumbles, can’t block, and doesn’t know his assignments. they’ve said it a dozen times.
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We know they said it dumbass! We all know what they said. All year, we’ve heard what they said.
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and rather than believe a first year coach who desperately wants to win, would not play him for those reasons he has stated, u would rather believe he won’t play him cuz he’s too fast, and for some reason, u believe that DA hates fast players. this is ur stance? and i’m dumb?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Of note is ProFootballFocus’ grade of Bradian Ross…
Brandian Ross (+3.1) a 2011 free agent who’s been active for only a handful of games — played like a Pro-Bowler against the Chiefs’ passing game, allowing just three receptions on six targets for only 12 yards. He also made an impressive tackle around the line of scrimmage in his only contribution in the run game.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Wisniewski needs to go back to LG, he was probowl bound; unless he makes that jump this offseason at center. Would like to see Reggie draft or FA sign a great center. Wisniewski & Vehldeer complimented each other, worked excellent together.
Trade proposal: Janokowski and DMac for Cousins.
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Sorry man, I wouldn’t give up Janikowski, DMac or Palmer for Cousins. You’re talking about the best kicker in the game, a RB who was emerging as one of the best in the game under the previous coaching staff and is only 25, and jettisoning a QB on pace for more than 4,500 yards and 25+ TDs for a guy who’s had one decent game as a pro.
No thanks.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
man u are dumb. he doesn’t play cuz he fumbles, can’t block, and doesn’t know his assignments. they’ve said it a dozen times.
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We know they said it dumbass! We all know what they said. All year, we’ve heard what they said.
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and rather than believe a first year coach who desperately wants to win, would not play him for those reasons he has stated, u would rather believe he won’t play him cuz he’s too fast, and for some reason, u believe that DA hates fast players. this is ur stance? and i’m dumb?
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I get it. DA really does want to desperately win. It’s just that he is not quite sure how to go about it. Especially if he is letting his so called ‘assistants’ run the show. Gruden ran the show. Why can’t DA?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
457, That makes sense. I’d like to believe it isn’t just a bad coaches decision.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
We need Jano bad. Nobody in their right mind would want him gone. knapps zbs can only get us into field goal range. Keep Jano.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Here’s another interesting tidbit by ProFootballFocus…
Goodson shows McFadden
Darren McFadden (-2.3) has really struggled of late — taking far too many of his runs too far outside. That led to some big losses and some crucial failed conversions. The contrast between him and Mike Goodson (+2.7) was striking. While the former left good yardage on the field by refusing to go north and south, the latter followed his blocks with patience and then added yards after contact.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Wisniewski needs to go back to LG, he was probowl bound; unless he makes that jump this offseason at center. Would like to see Reggie draft or FA sign a great center. Wisniewski & Vehldeer complimented each other, worked excellent together.
Trade proposal: Janokowski and DMac for Cousins.
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Sorry man, I wouldn’t give up Janikowski, DMac or Palmer for Cousins. You’re talking about the best kicker in the game, a RB who was emerging as one of the best in the game under the previous coaching staff and is only 25, and jettisoning a QB on pace for more than 4,500 yards and 25+ TDs for a guy who’s had one decent game as a pro.
No thanks.
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Weird trade…Ndamukong Suh and Lions 2nd round pick for the #2 pick overall – Lions then get Luke Joeckel – with that 2nd round pick Raiders get pass rusher Ezekial Ansah.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Brisiel has been pretty awful and he’s due big money for a guard. He’s gotta go or Chubby Checker has no credibility.
Barnes is stop-gap material. I’d like him better as a backup. Line got better when he returned, but Willie Smith was really, really bad in his place. Barnes is at least competent on most plays.
Carlisle needs to be replaced soon as well. He’s OK, but getting up there in age.
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I’ve been hearing all the parrots in here repeat what a bust Briesel has been. I haven’t seen it. I’ve seen him get beat about as often as I’ve seen Carlisle and even Wiz get beat.
Meanwhile, I’ve seen Barnes look like he’s standing still when dealing with speed rushers at times.
In my mind Briesel is the third best blocker on the line, ahead of Carlisle and Barnes. What am I missing?
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veldheer, although he had some early torubles, is good.
carlisle has always been dissed here but has always been a scrappy vet who mostly got the job done. he has been pushed around a bit more this season though, and may be done soon.
wiz is weak with strong DT’s and gets blasted backwards often. he needs to be a guard, where he uses his quicks and good angles to succeed.
brisiel was being blasted backwards a lot early, but ha improved lately.
barnes is a solid run-blocker who occaionally struggles against spped guys, like a lot of RT.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113975/article/norv-turner-not-ruling-being-an-oc-if-fired-by-chargers
December 19th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
knapps offense sends to many guys horizontal. Give Turner a try. Couldn’t be worse than what we got now. Whut?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Maybe he doesn’t know his so called ‘assistants’ are beating his team to a pulp. Seriously, what does he do?
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If he thought his assistants were the ones beating him and his team into the dust the solution would be easy: get new assistants. And after the college bowl games and season, that would not be that tough. SD, Philly, and KC would be the lst places to look.
I think Allen is more of the mindset that the players need to play better. A lot better. He and McKenzie are also of the mind set that he needs more depth on the entire roster. Personally, I can see his point.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Here’s another interesting tidbit by ProFootballFocus…
Goodson shows McFadden
Darren McFadden (-2.3) has really struggled of late — taking far too many of his runs too far outside. That led to some big losses and some crucial failed conversions. The contrast between him and Mike Goodson (+2.7) was striking. While the former left good yardage on the field by refusing to go north and south, the latter followed his blocks with patience and then added yards after contact.
Jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Of note is ProFootballFocus’ grade of Bradian Ross…
Brandian Ross (+3.1) a 2011 free agent who’s been active for only a handful of games — played like a Pro-Bowler against the Chiefs’ passing game, allowing just three receptions on six targets for only 12 yards. He also made an impressive tackle around the line of scrimmage in his only contribution in the run game.
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Thank you for a relevant and great post.
So much better than cross posting arguments, beech raps, and troll bait.
So, slowly but surely personnel is added, and I guess the ZBS and a modified version of power blocking returns in 2013.
bigger question…DOES KNAPP?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski was named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week for his five field-goal effort against the Kansas City Chiefs.
This is the seventh time in Janikowski’s long career that he has earned the honor. The last time came in Sept. of 2011.
Janikowski accounted for all the scoring in the Raiders 15-0 victory over the Chiefs on Sunday. His lone miss came from 51 yards.
He converted field goals of 20, 30, 41, 50 and 57 yards against the Chiefs. In the process, he passed Morten Anderson for the third-most field goals from 50 yards or longer. He now has 42, tied with John Kasay for the second-most ever. Janikowski trails only the Lions’ Jason Hanson (52) for most such field goals.
Overall, Janikowski has made 29 of 32 field-goal attempts this season. He is battling the Browns’ Phil Dawson for the spot on the AFC team in the Pro Bowl.
Dawson has made 26 of 27 field-goal attempts this season, with a long of 52.
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From the earlier post today, proof positive we need Jano for knapps system.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
KK, Robby_Doc thinks his opinion is the only one that counts…….lol
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well, i’m usually right, but that’s not the point.
i make fun of racists, anti-raiders, troublemakers, etc. ur both in that group.
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Kell is a Raider fan. I can’t say the same for the Cam Newton lover.
I don’t care if the occasional Raider hater shows up and owns up to it like Super Charged or whatever, but the sneaky ones who pretend just so they can use us as a tool to spout their extremist social takes, and talk about the greatness of players from other teams?…not so much.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RaiderSam
That seems to be the million dollar question no? Does Knapp Return?
The SF Chorn’s quoted DHB as saying he would relish playing in the same offensive system — as he has been in a different one each year.
I guess time will tell if Knapp is calling plays again next season.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Maybe he doesn’t know his so called ‘assistants’ are beating his team to a pulp. Seriously, what does he do?
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If he thought his assistants were the ones beating him and his team into the dust the solution would be easy: get new assistants. And after the college bowl games and season, that would not be that tough. SD, Philly, and KC would be the lst places to look.
I think Allen is more of the mindset that the players need to play better. A lot better. He and McKenzie are also of the mind set that he needs more depth on the entire roster. Personally, I can see his point.
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Isnt Allen less charismatic and motivational then Hue was, more of an X’s and O’s guy… a lot of the leadership is more like on field leaders who police the team, hence “Players need to lead and play better”
December 19th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Here’s another interesting tidbit by ProFootballFocus…
Goodson shows McFadden
Darren McFadden (-2.3) has really struggled of late
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When they say “late” they mean his entire career right?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Maybe he doesn’t know his so called ‘assistants’ are beating his team to a pulp. Seriously, what does he do?
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If he thought his assistants were the ones beating him and his team into the dust the solution would be easy: get new assistants. And after the college bowl games and season, that would not be that tough. SD, Philly, and KC would be the lst places to look.
I think Allen is more of the mindset that the players need to play better. A lot better. He and McKenzie are also of the mind set that he needs more depth on the entire roster. Personally, I can see his point.
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Two points at play:
We need better assistants. No ifs, and or buts about it.
We could use better players fo sho, but would be wise to design schemes around the type of player personel we have.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RaiderSam
That seems to be the million dollar question no? Does Knapp Return?
The SF Chorn’s quoted DHB as saying he would relish playing in the same offensive system — as he has been in a different one each year.
I guess time will tell if Knapp is calling plays again next season.
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He will be the luckiest OC on the planet if here next year – almost universally, everyone has this guy “in another capacity” next year….there has never been a more important 2 games for him, T.Pryor, and McFadden quite frankly. I think everyone is going to be evaluated.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
KK, Robby_Doc thinks his opinion is the only one that counts…….lol
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well, i’m usually right, but that’s not the point.
i make fun of racists, anti-raiders, troublemakers, etc. ur both in that group.
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Kell is a Raider fan. I can’t say the same for the Cam Newton lover.
I don’t care if the occasional Raider hater shows up and owns up to it like Super Charged or whatever, but the sneaky ones who pretend just so they can use us as a tool to spout their extremist social takes, and talk about the greatness of players from other teams?…not so much.
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kell is just kinda dumb. he attacks pretty much everyone without knowing why. i think he wakes up, spouts off, goes to sleep.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Here’s another interesting tidbit by ProFootballFocus…
Goodson shows McFadden
Darren McFadden (-2.3) has really struggled of late
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When they say “late” they mean his entire career right?
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So, he didnt single handedly beat Denver both times 59-14 (up in mile high) or not run for 167 yds v. Jacksonville, right?
i mean, his entire career is a bust?
I doth protest heartily.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
But on another note, DA needs to quit putting the onus on the players and get his ‘assistants’ to coach them up and play better. Hard to get motivated when your coach is ready to throw players under the bus.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Funny how the Raiders OL gets bashed. I know the run game has been lame, but not nearly as much with guys not named McFadden running. Unfortunately, there aren’t enough carries for all the others combined to bring the numbers up.
On pass protection, here’s a pair of interesting stats on the Raiders OL:
- Number of pass attempts: 4th highest in the league
- Number of sacks given up: 8th best in the league
It must be the incredible mobility of Palmer that bails the line out so often
December 19th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Seymour, Branch only players not at practice
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 at 11:44 am in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour and strong safety Tyvon Branch are not at practice today. Their status for the Carolina Panthers game is up in the air at this point.
Suffice, Branch has a better chance of playing Sunday than Seymour, given Branch played last Sunday with the same sore ankle that is bothering him today and Seymour has missed the past six games with a hamstring injury.
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Why is this news? Has Dick Seymour ever been at practice?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
DA putting the onus on his players reminds me of an Urban Meyer quote during his first year as Ohio State football boss.
This is what he had to say about one of his players…
“He doesn’t know the word fear. In fact, he doesn’t know the definition of many words. I have seen his grades.”
I know it’s not in regards to his play on the field, but, putting a student-athlete on blast for grades is a scorching.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Isnt Allen less charismatic and motivational then Hue was, more of an X’s and O’s guy… a lot of the leadership is more like on field leaders who police the team, hence “Players need to lead and play better”
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No, Allen is an incredibly passionate guy about this game. Watching Allen on the sidelines is actually pretty interesting because you can tell he is about ready to blow a gasket like you have never seen. But Allen is not the type to go nuts on the sidelines or start throwing gatorade cans around. As I wrote a few minutes ago, Allen is going about doing the right things. He lets his assistants do their jobs, and then they evaluate what the fook is going on out there. And let’s be honest, the whole thing has not been pretty.
But the whole McClain incident is basically very telling. Here you have a guy who has not been very good at all. He has gotten into problems outside the team. Last year, Hue Jackson benched him for a series against Miami after another very serious off field incident, and then put him in the game. What does that tell your team? With Allen, McClain got properly demoted, then suspended, and very shortly, shipped the fukk out. If Al Davis was still alive, (God rest his soul), McClain would be starting, and Allen would be about to be shipped out. Now you know what the problem has been the last twenty years or so.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Super Dawg Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
But on another note, DA needs to quit putting the onus on the players and get his ‘assistants’ to coach them up and play better. Hard to get motivated when your coach is ready to throw players under the bus.
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They’re not his players.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Jack, Meyer was probably trying to be cute but that is some heavy stuff to say about a student athlete.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
U dont need profootballfocus to know Goodson has been running better in the ZBS when those runs are called then DMAC
December 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Isnt Allen less charismatic and motivational then Hue was, more of an X’s and O’s guy… a lot of the leadership is more like on field leaders who police the team, hence “Players need to lead and play better”
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No, Allen is an incredibly passionate guy about this game. Watching Allen on the sidelines is actually pretty interesting because you can tell he is about ready to blow a gasket like you have never seen. But Allen is not the type to go nuts on the sidelines or start throwing gatorade cans around. As I wrote a few minutes ago, Allen is going about doing the right things. He lets his assistants do their jobs, and then they evaluate what the fook is going on out there. And let’s be honest, the whole thing has not been pretty.
But the whole McClain incident is basically very telling. Here you have a guy who has not been very good at all. He has gotten into problems outside the team. Last year, Hue Jackson benched him for a series against Miami after another very serious off field incident, and then put him in the game. What does that tell your team? With Allen, McClain got properly demoted, then suspended, and very shortly, shipped the fukk out. If Al Davis was still alive, (God rest his soul), McClain would be starting, and Allen would be about to be shipped out. Now you know what the problem has been the last twenty years or so.
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It appears that Allen was able to stand up to McClain, although McClain was not in the right scheme, was out of shape, and was a strange individual from the very beginning….it appears he just hit the wall, and he couldnt elevate his game. Supposedly Hightower of New England had the same knock, tall, rangy, but not fast…but see how well he does with a big NT like Wilfork in front of him.
But, i agree. Davis was a “players” owner. So coach killers like Sapp, McClain had free reign.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
DJ Johnny
Isn’t it? When I saw the presser, I had to rewind it to make sure he said it.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
So, he didnt single handedly beat Denver both times 59-14 (up in mile high) or not run for 167 yds v. Jacksonville, right?
i mean, his entire career is a bust?
I doth protest heartily.
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I’m being a little hard on McFadden. I just don’t understand him. He has all the talent in the world, but he seems to be one of those guys that has a great game, and takes the next 8 weeks off.
I gave him the lst game this season because SD was keying him and he couldn’t do anything. But when he did nothing again the second game, Goodson came in for one play, and went 75 yards to the house, it became “McFadden watch”. And since then he has been flat out awful and the other backs have been decent. This team would be much better offensively without him. The same as the team is much better defensively without McClain.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
DMAC doesnt take 8 weeks off. his body is just injury prone. U say it like DMAC plans it or some shyyt. He has a strong, strong upper body ..but has a thin lower body thin frame.
he has track legs. DMAC has been awful in this scheme. Under hue jax he was good. why do u think he finally blew up at that coach on SUN?
Most fans dont realize this but DMAC was always injured in college too. he had toe and ankle injuries.
DMAC is what he is . PHYSICAL, Hard runner, elite burst in the right system.. but is not durable. Some rare talents can jsut never stay healthy.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
501,
What’s interesting is McFadden said he’d rather go stright up the middle on a 3rd and one instead of a stretch play and that’s why he was upset; but the reason they ran the stretch is cuz McFadden has trouble getting those 1 yd. “up the gut” runs.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
blocking wasnt the best on that 3rd n 1.. OLINE got not push
December 19th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
no* btw most chicago bears fans were pissed at Michael Bush during the bears/ seahawks game.
They could have won it before overtime but Bush got stuffed on a 4th n 1. sheeet happens
December 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
jackasspuria Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
DJ Johnny
Isn’t it? When I saw the presser, I had to rewind it to make sure he said it.
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I’ll bet his parents loved hearing that.
December 19th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
So, he didnt single handedly beat Denver both times 59-14 (up in mile high) or not run for 167 yds v. Jacksonville, right?
i mean, his entire career is a bust?
I doth protest heartily.
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I’m being a little hard on McFadden. I just don’t understand him. He has all the talent in the world, but he seems to be one of those guys that has a great game, and takes the next 8 weeks off.
I gave him the lst game this season because SD was keying him and he couldn’t do anything. But when he did nothing again the second game, Goodson came in for one play, and went 75 yards to the house, it became “McFadden watch”. And since then he has been flat out awful and the other backs have been decent. This team would be much better offensively without him. The same as the team is much better defensively without McClain.
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So a RB by committee – Goodson-Reece-Jones or (draft pick like Lacy from Bama) would equate McFadden?
then trade McFadden for lower picks while his value is reasonably high?
December 19th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
If we are going for “the GB way” then rb by committee is something we might see more emphasis on.
We need more receivers who can make plays if that’s the case…
Looking at the o-line rankings for this yr. we are #9 in the league as opposed to 5th the yr. prior.
Oh…we also need a pass rushing stud and some other things.
December 19th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Da da will lead to promised land
December 19th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
D Montreal Moore
December 19th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
I would be okay with Reggie trading DHB to wherever Knapp ends up coaching elsewhere.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I would rather have Bruce Campbell developing than have a part time running back.
Shows too how we’ve been mismanaging OL talent all the way back when cable was our OL coach. Playing them out of position or developing them in different positions.
Campbell was like the highest or third highest rated LT at run blocking at college. Panthers doing what we should’ve done. Campbell would’ve been a beast even at RG or RT instead of the crap Reggie has had rotate there or fill back up spots.
smith Carlisle brisiel ed fvcking Wang ffs.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Super Dawg Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
But on another note, DA needs to quit putting the onus on the players and get his ‘assistants’ to coach them up and play better. Hard to get motivated when your coach is ready to throw players under the bus.
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They’re not his players.
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notre dame’s brian kelly took a lot of heat cuz of how he blasted the roster when he got there. after last season, he said “next year, i will finally have mostly my players, so they should start to play the way i want then to”.
well? they pretty much did.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:45 am
GG Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I would rather have Bruce Campbell developing than have a part time running back.
Shows too how we’ve been mismanaging OL talent all the way back when cable was our OL coach. Playing them out of position or developing them in different positions.
Campbell was like the highest or third highest rated LT at run blocking at college. Panthers doing what we should’ve done. Campbell would’ve been a beast even at RG or RT instead of the crap Reggie has had rotate there or fill back up spots.
smith Carlisle brisiel ed fvcking Wang ffs.
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bruce campbell was never and will never be a “beast”. he sucks.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 am
looks like tim tebow will be released in the offseason. Poor guy. rex ryan must be racist, or God-ist. wouldn’t it be interesting if the raiders traded palmer and brought in tebow, and let he and pryor battle it out? they could design their offense to suit both players, and have two guys that could make it work. they could even go with a 2-headed qb system. it would be fun (at least for a few games), and it would sell tix (at least for a few games).
but reality is that he will likely sign with jacksonville. of all the teams that will be looking for qb’s (buf, min, kc, ari), they are the team that would fit, cuz of tebow’s popularity there and the fact they have henne and gabbert in reserve.
i think arizona and minnesota may be looking for a veteran, as they might consider themselves a qb away from being good.
kc and buffalo will look to draft a franchise guy.
qb’s available may include:
a.smith
vick
sanchez
palmer?
romo?
rivers?
my guess is that palmer, romo, and rivers will stay put. and sanchez will likely obly find a backup role somewhere (seattle?).
so possibly a.smith to arizona and vick to minnesota?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 am
looks like tim tebow will be released in the offseason. Poor guy. rex ryan must be racist, or God-ist. wouldn’t it be interesting if the raiders traded palmer and brought in tebow, and let he and pryor battle it out? they could design their offense to suit both players, and have two guys that could make it work. they could even go with a 2-headed qb system. it would be fun (at least for a few games), and it would sell tix (at least for a few games).
but reality is that he will likely sign with jacksonville. of all the teams that will be looking for qb’s (buf, min, kc, ari), they are the team that would fit, cuz of tebow’s popularity there and the fact they have henne and gabbert in reserve.
i think arizona and minnesota may be looking for a veteran, as they might consider themselves a qb away from being good.
kc and buffalo will look to draft a franchise guy.
qb’s available may include:
a.smith
vick
sanchez
palmer?
romo?
rivers?
my guess is that palmer, romo, and rivers will stay put. and sanchez will likely obly find a backup role somewhere (seattle?).
so possibly a.smith to arizona and vick to minnesota?
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Hot rumor already is Vick to the Jets.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:27 am
rex ryan has turned the jets into a joke. vick would take that show to absurd heights. they really need to either develop the mcelroy kid, or get alex smith to calm things down. or make a trade for someone like palmer, rivers, or romo. kirk cousins could be a hot commodity too.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:32 am
doesn’t myck kabongo’s name seem made up? his last name seems like a word u use to either describe an amazing dunk, or a girl’s breasts.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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December 20th, 2012 at 3:21 am
Goodson said he is fired up about playing the Panthers, yet he’s also trying to maintain his composure.
“I am looking forward to it,” Goodson said. “It’s a pretty big deal. That’s my old team and where I used to be for so long. They decided to trade me here, so I’m excited to take my new team and go back against those guys.”
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Goody will come up big this Sunday imo
December 20th, 2012 at 4:08 am
Louis Murphy will have a career day against us, showing once again why Big Reg is an idiot….
December 20th, 2012 at 4:09 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 4:08 am
Louis Murphy will have a career day against us, showing once again why Big Reg is an idiot….
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if by career day, u mean 2 catches for 19 yards, then yes.
December 20th, 2012 at 4:13 am
Lakers are 12-14
Man, I wish the Raiders could manage to win 12 out of every 26 games !!
December 20th, 2012 at 5:15 am
People STILL talking up Bruce Campbell?
SMH.
He has had three coaches with two organizations, all decide he is not worth suiting up on Sundays.
Next year will be his 4th year. 4TH YEAR!!!!
He will NEVER, NEVER be an NFL starter, and probably will be cut this offseason.
December 20th, 2012 at 5:32 am
TWO Acceptable outcomes this Sunday…
1. Pryor and other young/unknown non-starters get extensive playing time. Result? We find out what we have (and don’t have) BEFORE GOING INTO THE OFFSEASON. Score/game outcome–> fully irrelevant.
Perhaps that is too logical and I’m expecting too much from the CLOWNE COACHE CADRE (CCC).
2. If this simple ‘plan’ is just too much for the CCC then my second wish is that this ’staff’ oversees a MELTDOWN OF EPIC PROPORTIONS (MEP) on the order of 42-6 in favor of Carolina, followed by a BLOWOUT THAT BELIES COMPREHENSION (BBC) in San Diego to the tune of 50-3.
D0A and Friends(tm) have already proven to be a WHOLLY INEPT TRAINWRECK (WIT) and if they cant see that ‘1′ is the only logical option, then I would like to witness a complete and fully-cataclysmic implosion that makes it impossible for Davis to even contemplate retaining the CCC in 2013.
December 20th, 2012 at 5:36 am
PLenty of young players and unknown starters will get run.
Goodson, Ross, Bergstrom, Bilukidi.
You know, the guys who are NFL level players.
December 20th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Id rather have a Tackle on scholarship, than a part-time RB.
I’m all about the OL and front seven.
December 20th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I for one would love to see a rare east coast road victory! I know a lot of you is counting on draft position, but F that! I want to see progress…in winning! Going out there and giving all you got! It would be extra nice if we can do that with the young players!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 6:21 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
December 20th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Hwnrdr i agree 100% !!
December 20th, 2012 at 6:35 am
I would like to see Condo go down so we can find out if the coaches trained his backup yet…what a disgrace the first time
December 20th, 2012 at 6:37 am
LOL, Bo…haven’t seen you in here since that opening night fiasco! You probably have though…
But Welcome Back!
December 20th, 2012 at 6:40 am
I could see Romac on Bengals next season.
December 20th, 2012 at 6:41 am
My work IP is banned by Becker for some reason…got tired of the phone hassle.
Anyone wanna argue about trading DMAC anymore?
December 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
DMAC actually did look better last game…we’ll see!
December 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I don’t know all the answers. I like to throw out possibilities for consideration.
I used to think you needed a whole team to win in this league…hence my support of Palmer thru all this, but I just saw Kiper on ESPN and he said something interesting.
Andrew Luck. Kiper points out w/o Luck, Colts win TWO games this yr.
Decimated o-line…rookies starting at receiver and running back, sub par defense, 1st yr. coach..who isn’t even coaching but his asst. is…were talking a situation where ONE GUY…has made all the difference from a bottom feeder to one of the top teams in the AFC.
The whole thing makes me rethink my stance on needing a whole team to win in this league and just how the QB position can change everything.
December 20th, 2012 at 6:52 am
DJ..or did the Colts lay down last year and lose just to get Luck ? Maybe they were better then advertised.
December 20th, 2012 at 6:53 am
POST-534,NO ARGUMENT..JUST TRADE THE MAN.
December 20th, 2012 at 6:55 am
The clock for the move back to LA keeps on ticking:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/20/oakland-struggles-to-afford-an-nfl-team/
December 20th, 2012 at 7:07 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 6:52 am
DJ..or did the Colts lay down last year and lose just to get Luck ? Maybe they were better then advertised.
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Good question Mike. But Kiper points out the rest of the team is bad THIS yr. too, and there’s no reason NOW to suck.
One thing though, he points out they have all these other rookies playing. It doesn’t guarantee these rookies are bad…just cuz they are rookies so that could have helped.
Which leads to the idea that rookies nowadays make an immediate impact. It used to be rookies might ride the pine for a yr. or two, or take a while to get acclimated to the pro game, but you don’t see that as much. Kuechly for example with Carolina; making a BIG impact right away.
I guess that’s where the draft is so important now than ever cuz the same guys u pick in April, could be the same guys that are turning your team around…not in two or three yr’s. but RIGHT AWAY.
It didn’t used to be that way.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I for one would love to see a rare east coast road victory! I know a lot of you is counting on draft position, but F that!
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Atta boy Hwnrdr!!!!
Besides, that’s what Al would do/say. Go win the damn game, and let everything else figure itself out afterwards.
These youngsters on the team that certainly will be back, need to learn to win.
People wanting us to lose is beyond ridiculous. As if Rod Streater catching a game-winning TD catch, and then Miles Burris sealing the win with a game-clinching sack would be a negative on next year or something.
LMAO
December 20th, 2012 at 7:19 am
And Kuechly was what the 9th pick in the draft? Certainly has been better then some of the defensive guys drafted ahead of him.
No need to “tank”.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I would hope if the Raiders DID move to LA that the Oakland fans would understand why it happened and not chastise Mark for doing it.
They MUST move to a new stadium …period.
Is there any progress? I don’t hear anything and time IS ticking with the lease coming up to renew at the OCO.
Last I heard is the NFL offered 200 mill. to help Mark build a new one in Oakland, but that is a mere pittance to what they need, and if LA doesn’t want us either than what the heck does Mark do? Does he continue to just ride it out indefinitely in the OCO and say screw it? I don’t see that, and Mark has already said he doesn’t want to share a stadium with SF.
I don’t understand the leagues insistence that Mark sell controlling interest. He’s not Al Davis. They must think he’s incompetent. I don’t get that, but something’s gotta happen.
That’s why i was saying that we can talk about a long re-build etc. but this is a BAD TIME to be losing like they are. There’s never a good time, but this recent plummet into the dregs of the league couldn’t of come at a worse time.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am
The stadium issue is reason #1, 2 and 3 why we can’t get a top-flight coach.
Lame-duck stadium season for us next year. No coach with options would even seriously interview for such a gig. They might just show up to help their bargaining power with another team.
They don’t have to have a new stadium right away, they obviously don’t get built over night, but they need to have A PLAN to build something.
As if now, no dice on that front.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Qb is the most important pos by leaps and bounds.. which is why im pìssed that we arent evaluating tp6 properly..
December 20th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Everybody looked better last game, it was KC. We’d look really good against a bunch of suited up cheerleaders too.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am
All we had to do was sign him as an undrafted free agent….
sure enough, Burfict turned it around
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/20/vontaze-burfict-has-grown-into-bengals-leading-tackler/
December 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am
This is easy, if Crappy Knappy stays then trade DMC, if he goes we keep him.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:35 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I would hope if the Raiders DID move to LA that the Oakland fans would understand why it happened and not chastise Mark for doing it.
They MUST move to a new stadium …period.
Is there any progress? I don’t hear anything and time IS ticking with the lease coming up to renew at the OCO.
Last I heard is the NFL offered 200 mill. to help Mark build a new one in Oakland, but that is a mere pittance to what they need, and if LA doesn’t want us either than what the heck does Mark do? Does he continue to just ride it out indefinitely in the OCO and say screw it? I don’t see that, and Mark has already said he doesn’t want to share a stadium with SF.
I don’t understand the leagues insistence that Mark sell controlling interest. He’s not Al Davis. They must think he’s incompetent. I don’t get that, but something’s gotta happen.
That’s why i was saying that we can talk about a long re-build etc. but this is a BAD TIME to be losing like they are. There’s never a good time, but this recent plummet into the dregs of the league couldn’t of come at a worse time.
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The media is already working him…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/20/oakland-struggles-to-afford-an-nfl-team/
December 20th, 2012 at 7:35 am
539.RaidingTexas Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 6:55 am
The clock for the move back to LA keeps on ticking:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/20/oakland-struggles-to-afford-an-nfl-team/
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No team in the NFL meets the 3 criteria for moving back LA right now.
That’s the upshot of momentum-less franchise movement talks among the shaky teams — the Raiders and Chargers, most notably — as the new year approaches. In June, commissioner Roger Goodell laid out a scenario whereby a team would be allowed to move to Los Angeles, and a source at the league meetings in Dallas last week told me none of the tenuous teams are close to meeting the requisites. A team wanting to move would have to demonstrate these three conditions:
1. A team has to establish market failure where it now plays.
2. A new stadium deal would have to be in place in Los Angeles with the moving franchise. Four sites — downtown, Chavez Ravine, Carson or City of Industry — are possible landing spots for a relocated franchise.
3. An interim stadium deal — at the Rose Bowl or Coliseum — would have to be in place for the 2013 season and beyond.
As of Thursday, I’m told no team had satisfied any of the three conditions, and none is in serious discussions for a temporary place to play while a new stadium is built. Though the window for satisfying all three conditions is open until Feb. 15, progress has been nil, and it’s now impossible that a team could get all three things done in the next eight weeks. That means we won’t see a resolution on a new team for Los Angeles until early 2014, at the earliest.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:37 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I don’t know all the answers. I like to throw out possibilities for consideration.
I used to think you needed a whole team to win in this league…hence my support of Palmer thru all this, but I just saw Kiper on ESPN and he said something interesting.
Andrew Luck. Kiper points out w/o Luck, Colts win TWO games this yr.
Decimated o-line…rookies starting at receiver and running back, sub par defense, 1st yr. coach..who isn’t even coaching but his asst. is…were talking a situation where ONE GUY…has made all the difference from a bottom feeder to one of the top teams in the AFC.
The whole thing makes me rethink my stance on needing a whole team to win in this league and just how the QB position can change everything.
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One player can make a huge difference – but also the coaches to put the players in the right positions to make usre of them.
If we had Knapp there, I assure you that Indy would be in a similar position to us. They’d “still be adjusting” and Luck would be making “rookie mistakes” with him and his team not on the same page.
It’s amazing how Palmer looked more in sync last year with his WRs after NO time to practice and get timing down and coming off the couch.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Last year our strongest part of the O-Line was a 2nd year player and a rookie on the left side. This year they both looked more lost. That’s wrong direction and is on the coaching staff. They preach patience and continuity, but they did the oposite when they came in here.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Isnt Allen less charismatic and motivational then Hue was, more of an X’s and O’s guy… a lot of the leadership is more like on field leaders who police the team, hence “Players need to lead and play better”
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No, Allen is an incredibly passionate guy about this game. Watching Allen on the sidelines is actually pretty interesting because you can tell he is about ready to blow a gasket like you have never seen. But Allen is not the type to go nuts on the sidelines or start throwing gatorade cans around. As I wrote a few minutes ago, Allen is going about doing the right things. He lets his assistants do their jobs, and then they evaluate what the fook is going on out there. And let’s be honest, the whole thing has not been pretty.
But the whole McClain incident is basically very telling. Here you have a guy who has not been very good at all. He has gotten into problems outside the team. Last year, Hue Jackson benched him for a series against Miami after another very serious off field incident, and then put him in the game. What does that tell your team? With Allen, McClain got properly demoted, then suspended, and very shortly, shipped the fukk out. If Al Davis was still alive, (God rest his soul), McClain would be starting, and Allen would be about to be shipped out. Now you know what the problem has been the last twenty years or so.
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And you see that’s interesting cuz Al Davis cut Jamarcus for his off-field issues, faster than any other #1 overall pick in history. Cable benched him multiple times as well. Greg Papa even said that Al was disappointed in McClain his rookie year.
BTW, Al would have never hired this pu$$bag Dennis Allen. Say hello to another year of double digit losses if this turdbreath comes back.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:41 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I don’t know all the answers. I like to throw out possibilities for consideration.
I used to think you needed a whole team to win in this league…hence my support of Palmer thru all this, but I just saw Kiper on ESPN and he said something interesting.
Andrew Luck. Kiper points out w/o Luck, Colts win TWO games this yr.
Decimated o-line…rookies starting at receiver and running back, sub par defense, 1st yr. coach..who isn’t even coaching but his asst. is…were talking a situation where ONE GUY…has made all the difference from a bottom feeder to one of the top teams in the AFC.
The whole thing makes me rethink my stance on needing a whole team to win in this league and just how the QB position can change everything.
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andrew luck is the league’s 32st rated qb. surprised? he has been completely overrated this year.
meanwhile their offense is #9 and their defense is #21.
don’t be shocked if u see them lose at kc and then against houston to end 9-7.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:42 am
s there any progress? I don’t hear anything and time IS ticking with the lease coming up to renew at the OCO.
Last I heard is the NFL offered 200 mill. to help Mark build a new one in Oakland, but that is a mere pittance to what they need, and if LA doesn’t want us either than what the heck does Mark do? Does he continue to just ride it out indefinitely in the OCO and say screw it? I don’t see that, and Mark has already said he doesn’t want to share a stadium with SF.
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200 million the league is offering would be at least 20% of the total cost of the stadium. Jerry Jones built Cowboys stadium for a little over a billion, and thats with the retractable dome and field sized HD tv. The stadium plan in Oakland wouldn’t cost nearly as much, as it would be an open roof facility.
The Santa Clara facility has a cost of $916 million, which would be the area of the figure we would be looking at, so that 200 million would be 22% of the total cost… hard to say that is a ‘pittance’.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I wonder what excuse Knapp will come up with next season when his FG offense still stinks?
December 20th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Qb is the most important pos by leaps and bounds.. which is why im pìssed that we arent evaluating tp6 properly..
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we have a good qb. pryor isn’t anywhere near ready to start next season.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:45 am
luck is 31st, not 32st. duh.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:47 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Last year our strongest part of the O-Line was a 2nd year player and a rookie on the left side. This year they both looked more lost. That’s wrong direction and is on the coaching staff. They preach patience and continuity, but they did the oposite when they came in here.
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It’s unfair to expect Knapp to come in here and take over someone elses offense right where it left off. He needs to be able to teach what he knows to be successful under everyone but himself.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:48 am
It doesnt matter if hes ready to start. What matters is if he will ever be starter quality.. an you wont know without playing him..
December 20th, 2012 at 7:48 am
andrew luck 3978 yards/ 54.6%/ 20 td/ 18 int/ 37 sacks/ 75.5 rating
carson palmer 3987 yards/ 60.9%/ 22 td/ 14 int/ 26 sacks/ 85.0 rating
there is a difference between hype and reality.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:48 am
It doesnt matter if hes ready to start. What matters is if he will ever be starter quality.. an you wont know without playing him..
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of course it matters. if he’s not ready to start next season, then what’s the rush? we have all of camp and preseason to develop him.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:49 am
People wanting us to lose is beyond ridiculous
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I think people THOUGHT we would lose out based on the previous 6 losses.
I definitely started looking at the possibilty of getting a top 3 pick. Started to drool over the chance to add the best DT or OT in the draft because I thought we NEEDED that type of player.
I’m pulling for 3 straight wins to end the season. No doubt about it. But I will likely biotch about losing Star Lotuleilei if we lose these last 2.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
LOL
I know 99% of the blog is rooting for Palmer to outshine Kim this week.
You just don’t want to hear Mistic, do you?
LMFAO!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Been awhile Dakota … what are your excuses for DMAC this year?
December 20th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Sorry guys, but I gotta laugh when I hear that the Chiefs laid down just to lose out…watch the game again…no they didn’t!
December 20th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Kc ran the ball 10 times.. they were fine with losing for draft pos
December 20th, 2012 at 7:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Sorry guys, but I gotta laugh when I hear that the Chiefs laid down just to lose out…watch the game again…no they didn’t!
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Only giving Charles 10 carries when your down 3-9 points is like giving up
December 20th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Where is KoolKell to tell us about how the Raiders had the #5 “ranked” O-line in 2010, based solely off of sacks allowed.
Because if that is the case, then we are “ranked” 8th this year!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Good Morning, Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider Fan, isn’t it?
December 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am
pass offense:
colts 8
raiders 7
run offense:
colts 21
raiders 29
scoring offense
colts18
raiders 26
pass defense
colts 21
raiders 27
run defense
colts 23
raiders 21
scoring defense
colts 24
raiders 32
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Omg….. the rush is to find out if tp has it or if we should draft a qb. You always need 2.. and if a young guy works out you trade cp3.. ppl are dense.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
What matters is if he will ever be starter quality.. an you wont know without playing him..
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So all these QB’s who are backups and 3rd stringers all got chances to start games and failed?
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
DMAC actually did look better last game…we’ll see!
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He still needs more patience. Or plays where all he has to do is catch the ball and go.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Oh wait, add another name to my list…Gruden, Hue, Chip Kelly, Del Rio, Shaw(still dreaming), anddddddddd Lovie Smith.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:56 am
colts wins:
min
gb
cle
ten
mia
jax
buf
det
ten
luck is NOT the reason they are 9-5.
better run offense, better scoring, and better defense against a VERY weak sked.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Omg….. the rush is to find out if tp has it or if we should draft a qb. You always need 2.. and if a young guy works out you trade cp3.. ppl are dense.
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Completely agree.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:57 am
That great 49er O-line, gives up a sack every 9.5 passing attempts, 2nd worst in the NFL.
Raiders give up a sack every 21 attempts, 3rd best in the NFL.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:58 am
better run offense, better scoring, and better defense against a VERY weak sked.
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Sounds like better coaching for the Colts. I would’ve loved to beat Miami and Cleveland
December 20th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Omg….. the rush is to find out if tp has it or if we should draft a qb. You always need 2.. and if a young guy works out you trade cp3.. ppl are dense.
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yes, people are dense. he has ALREADY been deemed by his coaches as not ready to hand the reins. so, we are NOT trading palmer, unless they draft the future qb.
in other words, palmer has ALREADY been deemed our qb next season and there is NO rush to get pryor a bunch of playing time.
the reality versus u and this blog’s fantasies is very different.
December 20th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Marks hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Omg….. the rush is to find out if tp has it or if we should draft a qb. You always need 2.. and if a young guy works out you trade cp3.. ppl are dense.
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Why do you think Pryor could possibly work out if he cant even beat out Lienart? Only a Raiders fan would put their hopes on a third string QB. How low can we sink? Its embarrassing. Especially when our starter would be starting on 20 other teams too.
STOP PLAYING MADDEN! It is turning your mind into mush!
December 20th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Allen said it’s imperative that someone on defense take charge.
“That’s big,” Allen said. “You have your quarterback on offense and you need a quarterback on defense because there’s a lot of communication that goes on defensively. Most places that you’re at, the middle linebacker is kind of the guy that does that for you.”
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So 55 lost the green dot coming out of the bye week because he wasn’t QBing the new defense well enough?
Wasn’t making thr proper adjustments?
55 wasn’t this fast, athletic multiple position player when we drafted him. Where is te comparison
“He’s as big as an offensive guard” – Tom Cable on draft day.
Since when are offensive guards fast and athletic, LOL?
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
teams palmer would currently start for:
buf
stl
ten
chi
phi
min
jax
mia
cle
nyj
kc
ari
teams pryor would currently start for:
none
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Why do you think Pryor could possibly work out if he cant even beat out Lienart? Only a Raiders fan would put their hopes on a third string QB. How low can we sink? Its embarrassing. Especially when our starter would be starting on 20 other teams too.
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Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Luck will keep the colts compeditive for 15yrs… cp3 well…not so much
December 20th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Luck will keep the colts compeditive for 15yrs… cp3 well…not so much
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not if he’s the 31st rated qb every year he won’t.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:03 am
dmc said he was pissed at a sweep call on 3rd and 1…”id rather just go straight ahead on a 3rd and 1 call….”
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Still can’t believe we pitched a shutout last week, with our MLB Gaither not even making the box score.
Zeros’ across the board. Not even an assisted tackle.
That, is damn near impossible.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Why do you think Pryor could possibly work out if he cant even beat out Lienart? Only a Raiders fan would put their hopes on a third string QB. How low can we sink? Its embarrassing. Especially when our starter would be starting on 20 other teams too.
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Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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they had no choice to go with parsons early. wiz’s injury was lingering and he wasn’t up to speed. and his play this year has been subpar too.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I just hope we draft a player this year to play the position he played in college.
No more 3/4 ILBs to play 4-3 MLB.
No more CBs to play SS.
No more DTs to play DE.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Still can’t believe we pitched a shutout last week, with our MLB Gaither not even making the box score.
Zeros’ across the board. Not even an assisted tackle.
That, is damn near impossible.
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his main contribution was NOT being mcclain.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:05 am
…”id rather just go straight ahead on a 3rd and 1 call….”
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I didn’t see this quote, what article did it come from?
December 20th, 2012 at 8:05 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I just hope we draft a player this year to play the position he played in college.
No more 3/4 ILBs to play 4-3 MLB.
No more CBs to play SS.
No more DTs to play DE.
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playing ILB and MLB is practically the same thing. mcclain sucked and would suck in any defense ever imagined.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:03 am
dmc said he was pissed at a sweep call on 3rd and 1…”id rather just go straight ahead on a 3rd and 1 call….”
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Knapp on more than one occassion calls for a toss on short yardage. He loves doing that for some reason
December 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
I just hope we draft a player this year to play the position he played in college.
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Preach it!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Should we draft a qb with our 1st pick or at all this yr?? You dont know.. n either does reggie. Thats why you play your rookie qb.. monkeys
December 20th, 2012 at 8:07 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Still can’t believe we pitched a shutout last week, with our MLB Gaither not even making the box score.
Zeros’ across the board. Not even an assisted tackle.
That, is damn near impossible.
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his main contribution was NOT being mcclain.
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LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Guess who is 32 in punt return average AGAIN this year?
Your Oakland Raiders.
With out offensive issues, I think a top-flight PR would do wonders for us.
Draft the Spyce smoking Honey Badger!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson; Merry Chistmas.
Before the game, long snapper Jon Condo was presented with the Commitment to Excellence Award, presented annually to the guy who best exemplifies the Raiders spirit.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Why do you think Pryor could possibly work out if he cant even beat out Lienart? Only a Raiders fan would put their hopes on a third string QB. How low can we sink? Its embarrassing. Especially when our starter would be starting on 20 other teams too.
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Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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they had no choice to go with parsons early. wiz’s injury was lingering and he wasn’t up to speed. and his play this year has been subpar too.
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I guess you don’t remember the “Competition” and split reps when Wiz was finally healthy. It took Parsons getting thrown into his own Backfield as a reality check, and even after that they tried to save face by saying it’s still a competition, but Wiz was winning
December 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Since the last time JLH housed a punt return, we have lost 8 fumbles on punt returns.
8 lost fumbles, 0 TD’s, dead last in return average 2 of 3 years.
Major, major issue that needs some attention.
We can’t even get a guy to fair catch a flipping punt,
WTF!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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I dunno… we all wanted to see T Jones play then when he got his chance… everybody stopped wanting to see him.
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB… now I suddenly don’t want to see much more of his passes. If they put him in as a wildcat runner… fine.
But people pretending he is RG3 because… well who knows.
The scouting report out of OS said the same thing that we are hearing from the Raider staff and Cork. The guy is not a NFL QB.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Good Morning, Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider Fan, isn’t it?
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Taking a page from DMAC’s book, well fck you people, then.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Didn’t KC Abandon the run the first time we played them? Charles has 13 yards on 13 rush attempts against us this season…they gave up the run because they fell behind and their offense, like ours is not suited to come back from 21 down!
Someone posted a link to the 2000 Raiders highlights yesterday. Down 21-0 against Peyton and we came back to win…I miss those days as well! But we are not there, and weren’t last year as well!
December 20th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:57 am
That great 49er O-line, gives up a sack every 9.5 passing attempts, 2nd worst in the NFL.
Raiders give up a sack every 21 attempts, 3rd best in the NFL.
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thats not quite accurate. The Niners arent in pass pro as often, while the Raiders are in “comeback” mode for most of the game, and have stats padded by zone based defenses during garbage time. – plus there are more pass attempts by Raiders than niners. – the true stat is length of time of possession, red zone scoring and defensive 3rd down stops.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:13 am
This staff knows shìt about how to use or evaluate their players. Look how long it took them to discover reece.. tp isnt getting any practice reps. Hes working. With the worst bacup wrs in the nfl and taking notes..
December 20th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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I dunno… we all wanted to see T Jones play then when he got his chance… everybody stopped wanting to see him.
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB… now I suddenly don’t want to see much more of his passes. If they put him in as a wildcat runner… fine.
But people pretending he is RG3 because… well who knows.
The scouting report out of OS said the same thing that we are hearing from the Raider staff and Cork. The guy is not a NFL QB.
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Yeah, we saw that in ONE freaking series.
LMAO
December 20th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Good Morning Purvis!
December 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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I dunno… we all wanted to see T Jones play then when he got his chance… everybody stopped wanting to see him.
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB… now I suddenly don’t want to see much more of his passes. If they put him in as a wildcat runner… fine.
But people pretending he is RG3 because… well who knows.
The scouting report out of OS said the same thing that we are hearing from the Raider staff and Cork. The guy is not a NFL QB.
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Well i do know, i’ve seen enough of the offensive/defensive play calling and player preperation from these coaches that i don’t want to see them anymore.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
We can’t even get a guy to fair catch a flipping punt.
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Cue Giordano. At least he can catch the ball, and probably even correctly decide if he should or not. As a bonus, if he gets past the punter he’s got a 50/50 chance of taking it all the way.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Yeah, we saw that in ONE freaking series.
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Did you see DHB after the pass? It was like, well gee, whodduh thunk that? The guy prolly clangs more passes at the knees than JaMoney in practice.
Where has any Raider fan read where Pryor has looked sharp in passing? EVER?
December 20th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Mornin’ Hwnrdr.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:23 am
609. Yup
December 20th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Its about evaluating a rookie qb draft pick and getting him some in game experience.. look at when denver started playing tebo. They didnt even wait to be mathmaticly eliminated.. they just knew they werent really compeditors so they made the move. And it ended up getting them a pick..
December 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am
LOL at “Uncle Rico”
December 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Should we draft a qb with our 1st pick or at all this yr?? You dont know.. n either does reggie. Thats why you play your rookie qb.. monkeys
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u guys don’t want to face reality. pryor is in no way ready to show that he would be the qb next season. they probably already have an idea what they want to do with the draft and that is NOT draft a qb. palmer, leinart, and pryor will ALL be back and next preseason, if pryor isn’t a WR by then, he will have a chance to shine.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Did you see DHB after the pass? It was like, well gee, whodduh thunk that
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You mean Palmer’s first pass to DHB where the announcers were like he didn’t even go for the ball?
DHB came out of his route so half arssed. The ball landed PAST DHB. This whole at his feet, at his knees propoganda is hilarious.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:34 am
DHB won’t be starting for us next year.
No doubt in my mind.
Signing Dwayne Bowe should be our top offseason priority.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am
While Googling Jon Condo for Bo’s Christmas present, this caught my attention.(Had to mispell penus to post)
Breaking News: Busted penus prompts Phuket fighter to come forward.
Phuket Gazette – Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:33:00 PM
PHUKET: Speaking exclusively with the Phuket Gazette, MMA fighter Ray Elbe has come forward about the penus injury he suffered in his Kuala Lumpur condo earlier this month.
“I want to thank my girlfriend for how she handled the situation. We handled it the best we could, considering the outcome,” Ray added.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am
565.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Been awhile Dakota … what are your excuses for DMAC this year?
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Hey, it only took you 16 weeks to show back up in here after the true value of John Condo was proven in week 1
December 20th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Where has any Raider fan read where Pryor has looked sharp in passing? EVER?
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Mistic would have you believe he looks outstanding, far superior to Palmer.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:41 am
another…lmao…bowe on 3 yard outs…smh
December 20th, 2012 at 8:41 am
No need to “evaluate” Pryor since Palmer will obviously be back.
Criner, Streater, and Moore will all be better next year. Add Bowe to that mix, and Palmer will be just fine.
Palmer, Streater, Moore, and Criner all getting meaningful reps to end the season will benefit us next year.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:44 am
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thats not quite accurate. The Niners arent in pass pro as often, while the Raiders are in “comeback” mode for most of the game, and have stats padded by zone based defenses during garbage time. – plus there are more pass attempts by Raiders than niners. – the true stat is length of time of possession, red zone scoring and defensive 3rd down stops.
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Yeah right, most of the year we have been in must pass mode where the back end may be zone but the front 7 are pinning their ears back and coming after palmer. The fact that he has been sacked so few times is a testement to him getting the ball out very quickly (not always with great results). Palmer is in the bottom 3 in the NFL in time from snap to throw, he has NO time
December 20th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Why do you think Pryor could possibly work out if he cant even beat out Lienart? Only a Raiders fan would put their hopes on a third string QB. How low can we sink? Its embarrassing. Especially when our starter would be starting on 20 other teams too.
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Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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they had no choice to go with parsons early. wiz’s injury was lingering and he wasn’t up to speed. and his play this year has been subpar too.
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I guess you don’t remember the “Competition” and split reps when Wiz was finally healthy. It took Parsons getting thrown into his own Backfield as a reality check, and even after that they tried to save face by saying it’s still a competition, but Wiz was winning
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yes, and the fact that wiz had to compete with parsons probably should have alerted everyone to how he would play this season. i know i saw it. and it happened.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Since the last time JLH housed a punt return, we have lost 8 fumbles on punt returns.
8 lost fumbles, 0 TD’s, dead last in return average 2 of 3 years.
Major, major issue that needs some attention.
We can’t even get a guy to fair catch a flipping punt,
WTF!!!!!!!!!
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oh Lord, have we entered the johnnie lee higgins debate again?
December 20th, 2012 at 8:45 am
yes, and the fact that wiz had to compete with parsons probably should have alerted everyone to how he would play this season. i know i saw it. and it happened.
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There was never a competition between Parsons and Wiz. Wiz was hurt all off season, when he got healthy he split reps with Parsons until he was up to speed.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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I dunno… we all wanted to see T Jones play then when he got his chance… everybody stopped wanting to see him.
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB… now I suddenly don’t want to see much more of his passes. If they put him in as a wildcat runner… fine.
But people pretending he is RG3 because… well who knows.
The scouting report out of OS said the same thing that we are hearing from the Raider staff and Cork. The guy is not a NFL QB.
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yeah and the 5-10 passes he throws over the next two weeks will likely douse a lot of the pryor talk real quick-like.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Good Morning, Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider Fan, isn’t it?
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Taking a page from DMAC’s book, well fck you people, then.
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good morning mr. sensitive.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:34 am
DHB won’t be starting for us next year.
No doubt in my mind.
Signing Dwayne Bowe should be our top offseason priority.
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Bowe sucks, he reminds me of Braylon Edwards.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:48 am
RaiderSam Says:
The Niners arent in pass pro as often, while the Raiders are in “comeback” mode for most of the game, and have stats padded by zone based defenses during garbage time. – plus there are more pass attempts by Raiders than niners.
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Somebody posted stats indicating our 1st and 2nd half stats were nearly identical refuting the garbage time padding allegation. I’ll check that out. And I read Raiders are 4th highest in pass attempts and 8th best in sacks given up. That combined with Palmer having less time to throw than almost all the other teams tells me CP3’s doing something right.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:49 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Why do you think Pryor could possibly work out if he cant even beat out Lienart? Only a Raiders fan would put their hopes on a third string QB. How low can we sink? Its embarrassing. Especially when our starter would be starting on 20 other teams too.
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Let’s not give this staff too much credit on Player personell. This is a Coaching staff that wanted to start Alex Parsons over Stephen Wiznewski
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they had no choice to go with parsons early. wiz’s injury was lingering and he wasn’t up to speed. and his play this year has been subpar too.
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I guess you don’t remember the “Competition” and split reps when Wiz was finally healthy. It took Parsons getting thrown into his own Backfield as a reality check, and even after that they tried to save face by saying it’s still a competition, but Wiz was winning
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yes, and the fact that wiz had to compete with parsons probably should have alerted everyone to how he would play this season. i know i saw it. and it happened.
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Maybe Knapps previous experiences at OC should’ve alerted Dennis Allen of what was to come this season?
December 20th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Marks Hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Its about evaluating a rookie qb draft pick and getting him some in game experience.. look at when denver started playing tebo. They didnt even wait to be mathmaticly eliminated.. they just knew they werent really compeditors so they made the move. And it ended up getting them a pick..
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tebow was the 1st rounder and they had already moved on from kyle orton.
face it. pryor ain’t getting a lot of reps. there’s a reason why.
and it’s cuz these nfl experienced coaches with good reps are somehow blind to talent and don’t know what they’re doing.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:51 am
dr_robert Says:
good morning mr. sensitive.
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I feel better now.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
dmc said he was pissed at a sweep call on 3rd and 1…”id rather just go straight ahead on a 3rd and 1 call….”
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That’s because he doesn’t like taking those extra steps before tripping and falling down. It wears him out.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Where has any Raider fan read where Pryor has looked sharp in passing? EVER?
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Mistic would have you believe he looks outstanding, far superior to Palmer.
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didn’t u see his evaluation? he broke down the one pass attempt like it was a thing of beauty. “pryor dropped back, scanned the field, decided wisely to check down, and under duress, fired a nice pass, with excellent arm strength, to the nearest open receiver, who didn’t make the proper adjustment and failed to catch the accurate pass”, or something like that.
missdick is awesome.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Since the last time JLH housed a punt return, we have lost 8 fumbles on punt returns.
8 lost fumbles, 0 TD’s, dead last in return average 2 of 3 years.
Major, major issue that needs some attention.
We can’t even get a guy to fair catch a flipping punt,
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But I thought our special teams were so great last year, and it is all Reggie’s fault for letting Bones walk, and replacing him with Hoffman…
December 20th, 2012 at 8:56 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
dmc said he was pissed at a sweep call on 3rd and 1…”id rather just go straight ahead on a 3rd and 1 call….”
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That’s because he doesn’t like taking those extra steps before tripping and falling down. It wears him out.
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i wonder how far in the lead dmc is at having his foot slip out from under him, and having everyone go “oh man, he was just about to break it”.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:56 am
dr_robert.
It’s kind of an in joke with the morning crew. DMAC says that within minutes of saying good morning, sometimes the next post on a slow morning. Heck, I waited 20 minutes. Hah.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Hire Norv Turner as OC.
Trade down with Rams, get Redskins 1st, Rams 2nd & 2014 3rd.
Draft:
1- Dion Jordan [DE/OLB]
2- Corey Lemonier [DE/OLB]
3- Kyle Long [RT]
4- Tyrann Mathieu [DB/KR]
Free Agents:
Chase Blackburn [MLB]
Justin Bannan [DT]
Ricky Jean-Francois [NT]
Mike Jenkins [CB]
BOOM.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:58 am
well, i guess ur “mr. not-quite-as-sensitive-as-dmac”.
December 20th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The_Judge37 Says:
Only giving Charles 10 carries when your down 3-9 points is like giving up
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A lot of teams ditch the run when they only gain 10 yards on 10 carries and the opposing defense is all over the backfield.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Trade down with Rams, get Redskins 1st, Rams 2nd & 2014 3rd
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Who do you think the Rams would want to pick at say #3 overall that they’d be willing to give up 3 draft picks for??? They have a very good young defense, and they have their QB. Their needs are WR and OL, which they don’t need the #3 pick to get…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
No need to “evaluate” Pryor since Palmer will obviously be back.
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So we can look forward to another handful of games next year when Palmer frets, makes a bad decision/throw, gets intercepted and we lose because of it…
Fact is, Palmer is a good QB… But we need a GREAT QB if we ever want to get back to the playoffs…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am
642.RaidingTexas Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The_Judge37 Says:
Only giving Charles 10 carries when your down 3-9 points is like giving up
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A lot of teams ditch the run when they only gain 10 yards on 10 carries and the opposing defense is all over the backfield.
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The head scratcher is why they gave up on the screen game, it WAS working, and has been an achilles heel for us for years…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Fact is, Palmer is a good QB… But we need a GREAT QB if we ever want to get back to the playoffs…
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Clearly Pryor has demonstrated over and over that he is exactly that guy
December 20th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Trade down:
1- CB D Milliner
2- OLB D Jordan (if he is available), A Barr, or C Thomas
3- DE Brandon Jenkins or OT K Long
4- RB Michael Dyer
Add a NT and MLB in FA.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:06 am
bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Trade down with Rams, get Redskins 1st, Rams 2nd & 2014 3rd
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Who do you think the Rams would want to pick at say #3 overall that they’d be willing to give up 3 draft picks for??? They have a very good young defense, and they have their QB. Their needs are WR and OL, which they don’t need the #3 pick to get…
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You never know until the combine happens..
But the LT, I think from A&M is rated top 5..
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
No need to “evaluate” Pryor since Palmer will obviously be back.
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Need to see if Pryor is back up material so we can jettison Leinart.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
bring in chip kelly…they are under ncaa investigation in oregon
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Trade down:
1- CB D Milliner
2- OLB D Jordan (if he is available), A Barr, or C Thomas
3- DE Brandon Jenkins or OT K Long
4- RB Michael Dyer
Add a NT and MLB in FA.
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*Fart noise*
Wasting 2 picks in the top 4 on positions not needed. No thanks.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Reggie will have to over pay if he wants to sign any quality free agents.
Her’s the rub, Reggie doesn’t “believe” in over paying players.
It’s all about doing it the Reggie way.
Reggie has a lot to learn about running an NFL franchise and not a lot of time to learn it.
Not
For
Long.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
You never know until the combine happens..
But the LT, I think from A&M is rated top 5..
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Is the drop off from the best LT to the second best LT worth 3 picks? Not likely…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Chip Kelly could be in KC…
*sad face*
December 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
dr_robert; this is Zymurge and me Monday morning on Pryors pass.
Zymurge Says:
On the TP debut, I think they saw exactly what they’ve been seeing in practice. No reads or audibles on the runs. A horrible read on the pass play looking to get the ball to a WR that has a DB draped all over him — and he was directly in front of him only a few yards away, not exactly hard to see the situation. Fortunately, he made a terrible throw or that might be a turnover inside his own 20.
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Be fair. Pryor said he did check down from a deeper covered receiver to Myers, I think, who was doubled, and then to DHB and saw the defender closing as he was throwing and basically threw it away so as not to throw a pick. Sounds to me like what a QB should do. Had he taken off on foot, he would’ve caught heat for that, too.
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Zymurge Says: #228
In that case, he’s smarter than I give him credit for, because he made up a nice little tale there. I watched the play on slo-mo.
On the other hand, if he played it so perfectly then why was he not played the rest of the game? Palmer was pretty clearly not himself with the flu bug and all, so it was THE ideal time to give him more reps.
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Don’t have the luxury of replay, and actually missed Pryors entire series. But I think I paraphrased his post game comment fairly accurately, so if he’s teling tales that’ll come out. And I heard Pryor had the flu also, along with several other Raiders other than Palmer.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
*Fart noise*
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LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
You never know until the combine happens..
But the LT, I think from A&M is rated top 5..
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Is the drop off from the best LT to the second best LT worth 3 picks? Not likely…
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Like I said, the combine will tell all.
Teams fall in love with players there.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
HIRE Chip Kelly.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
people think running a stretch on 3rd and 1 is a good idea? man glad you guys dont box…youd be manny planking…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
people think running a stretch on 3rd and 1 is a good idea? man glad you guys dont box…youd be manny planking…
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“In this league, you can’t run foward until you run sideways”
- Greg Knapp
December 20th, 2012 at 9:11 am
chip kelly with norvell as oc…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Fact is, Palmer is a good QB… But we need a GREAT QB if we ever want to get back to the playoffs…
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Clearly Pryor has demonstrated over and over that he is exactly that guy
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yes, the more times i re-watch that pass from last week, the more i’m convinced he is the next big thing.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
And I heard Pryor had the flu also, along with several other Raiders other than Palmer.
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Sign ‘The Flu’ to the active roster, best defensive performance this year!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I’m convince Greg Knapp was a huge Techmo Bowl fan. It’s the only explination for him having 6 plays in his book and the love of Zig Zag, east to west style running.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:14 am
O,
Adams is starting next year at CB. We have 3 young corners in Chekwa, Ross, and Francies. One of them will start on the outside next year. If they are not ready, we need should probably go with a vet FA instead of another young guy, don’t you think?
Our first round pick HAS to be a 4-3 RDE or an OT.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:14 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
No need to “evaluate” Pryor since Palmer will obviously be back.
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Need to see if Pryor is back up material so we can jettison Leinart.
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so, now it’s of supreme importance to see who ur #2 qb will be next year?
leinart is about as good a #2 as u can have. a former starter with ability who could come in in a pinch and not kill u.
pryor’s time will come in the offseason, camp, and preseason. by then he will have demonstrated without a doubt that he is a WR.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:14 am
With my plan..
Defense:
3-4
Houston/Bilukidi
Jean-Francois
Bryant
Jordan/Lemonier
Blackburn
Wheeler
Burris/Lemonier
Adams/Ross
Jenkins/Matheiu
Hanson
Huff
Branch
4-3
Shaughnessy/Crawford
Houston/Bilukidi
Bannan/Bryant
Jordan/Lemonier
Wheeler
Blackburn
Burris
Adams/Ross
Jenkins/Matheiu
Hanson
Huff
Branch
BOOM.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Reggie will have to over pay if he wants to sign any quality free agents.
Her’s the rub, Reggie doesn’t “believe” in over paying players.
It’s all about doing it the Reggie way.
Reggie has a lot to learn about running an NFL franchise and not a lot of time to learn it.
Not
For
Long.
************
ur failing miserably at blogging.
FIRE HUNTER S. NOW!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
659.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
people think running a stretch on 3rd and 1 is a good idea? man glad you guys dont box…youd be manny planking…
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Running the ball on 3rd or 4th and 1 in the NFL (aside from the Patriots whos success at it is 2 times better than the rest of the NFL) is not a good idea. Less than 50% success rate around the league.
We shouldn’t run anything but QB sneak with a 6′5″ QB when you need a yard, have we come up short once on a sneak this year?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:16 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Trade down:
1- CB D Milliner
2- OLB D Jordan (if he is available), A Barr, or C Thomas
3- DE Brandon Jenkins or OT K Long
4- RB Michael Dyer
Add a NT and MLB in FA.
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*Fart noise*
Wasting 2 picks in the top 4 on positions not needed. No thanks.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
We don’t needs CB and an OLB who can rush the passer?
LMAO
You are funny
December 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Greg Knapp is Reggie’s guy.
DA didn’t want him.
Reggie forced Knapp on DA because Reggie wanted to run a GM friendly system.
It’s all about Reggie.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I’m convince Greg Knapp was a huge Techmo Bowl fan. It’s the only explination for him having 6 plays in his book and the love of Zig Zag, east to west style running.
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if we only had BO!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:16 am
We don’t needs CB and an OLB who can rush the passer?
LMAO
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We dont need to draft a CB or RB in the first 4 rounds. No.
And that is no joke player.
If you cant see that…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I’m not blogging and either are you.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
great sneak, dive blast whatever just not sideways…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Greg Knapp is Reggie’s guy.
DA didn’t want him.
Reggie forced Knapp on DA because Reggie wanted to run a GM friendly system.
It’s all about Reggie.
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Get your troll on.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
The Raiders don’t need aCB and a pass rusher?
Still LOL
You Monkeys!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
671…exactly.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Greg Knapp is Reggie’s guy.
DA didn’t want him.
Reggie forced Knapp on DA because Reggie wanted to run a GM friendly system.
It’s all about Reggie.
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finally ur on board! nice!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
oh Lord, have we entered the johnnie lee higgins debate again?
Best haircut. No debate.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:20 am
My mock has 2 pass rushers first 2 picks…
Please keep up junior.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
So the jets have bench Sanchez and will start Tebow? No…but Maceroy(SpellCheck) cuz they are officially out of the playoffs,to see what they have in their young guy at QB…Now can someone please for the love of God tell me why our Raiders haven’t figure this out???
December 20th, 2012 at 9:22 am
mctroll20 thinks the DEs can get to the qb before they throw to wideo open wrs right of the line…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
oh Lord, have we entered the johnnie lee higgins debate again?
Best haircut. No debate.
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how dare u?! i’m outraged! there is absolutely no question who has the best haircut of any raider, no any human, in the last 500 years.
it is one mark davis. carrying the torch for roman senators for thousands of years. if he comes out with a grape leaf tucked in his ear, i would kneel to him.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
So the jets have bench Sanchez and will start Tebow? No…but Maceroy(SpellCheck) cuz they are officially out of the playoffs,to see what they have in their young guy at QB…Now can someone please for the love of God tell me why our Raiders haven’t figure this out???
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cuz they finally have decided sanchez sucks and will never start him again, that’s why. sanzhez and tebow will both be released. that’s how u do it. we have next year’s qb on the roster and he is justifiably playing most of the snaps.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
oh Lord, have we entered the johnnie lee higgins debate again?
Best haircut. No debate.
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I heard he had some pretty good endzone dances, too bad we never got to see any of them
December 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I’m convince Greg Knapp was a huge Techmo Bowl fan. It’s the only explination for him having 6 plays in his book and the love of Zig Zag, east to west style running.
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Pass routes are messed up as well. Raiders have long-speed receivers, not short quick guys. Hue knew what to do with them, but Knapp is clueless
December 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Your mock daft is a joke.
-Dion Jordan in the 1st? Really?
-We do need to draft a CB because it’s cheaper than signing s good CB in FA, and we do needs a CB. Can’t depend on unproven guys like Adams and Ross.
I think you are clueless about the draft and our needs.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Que onda Green party!?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB… now I suddenly don’t want to see much more of his passes. If they put him in as a wildcat runner… fine
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sign Uncle Rico!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Wheres our QB on the D?
Bring on Te’o!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:28 am
While Knapp is the Dead horse that cannot be beaten enough. He has taken all the heat off Tarver, who taught our defense how to blitz 7 guys and still get blocked by 5 linemen.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Your mock daft is a joke.
-Dion Jordan in the 1st? Really?
-We do need to draft a CB because it’s cheaper than signing s good CB in FA, and we do needs a CB. Can’t depend on unproven guys like Adams and Ross.
I think you are clueless about the draft and our needs.
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I think you are clueless about everything if your think Dion Jordan is going in the 2nd round.
Adams, Ross & Hanson are your CBs. Deal with it.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Preppie is back!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:28 am
While Knapp is the Dead horse that cannot be beaten enough. He has taken all the heat off Tarver, who taught our defense how to blitz 7 guys and still get blocked by 5 linemen.
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Our blitzes were a joke long before Tarver came along.
Giordano has made a name for running into a block from a RB on a blitz.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Que onda Green party!?
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Well then………
FK u guys 2 on this chilly morning in da O-A-K
December 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:28 am
While Knapp is the Dead horse that cannot be beaten enough. He has taken all the heat off Tarver, who taught our defense how to blitz 7 guys and still get blocked by 5 linemen.
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Our blitzes were a joke long before Tarver came along.
Giordano has made a name for running into a block from a RB on a blitz
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Marshall was able to successfully blitz with Safties. THe key is not send them from 20 yards out.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Fact is, Palmer is a good QB… But we need a GREAT QB if we ever want to get back to the playoffs…
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Clearly Pryor has demonstrated over and over that he is exactly that guy
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yes, the more times i re-watch that pass from last week, the more i’m convinced he is the next big thing.
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I never said Pryor is ‘that guy’… Im saying ‘that guy’ isnt on our current roster…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
“Fart noise”
“Clueless about everything”
How old are you?
Grow up monkey.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Dion Jordan not going in the 1st…. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
December 20th, 2012 at 9:32 am
mctroll20 blitzes worked fine with marshall…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
“Fart noise”
“Clueless about everything”
How old are you?
Grow up monkey.
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29 years old.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Dion Jordan is a late 1st/ early 2nd at this point. It’s December!!!
LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
——
Your mom
December 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Ahh yes, Marshall and his ‘before its time’ 5 safety formation.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
29?!?!?!
Tsk tsk tsk
You act like you are 9.
Should I Blame your parents or the school system?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Chip Kelly could be in KC…
*sad face*
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Don’t worry when Gruden goes to SD we can have the worst coach in the division…oh wait, we already do.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am
LOL at “Uncle Rico”
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lol say what you will but that guy suer could throw a steak !!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
#698..LOL!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
McShay has Dion Jordan going to the Dolphins in the 1st.. in December.
Theyre picking top 15. Next.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Whats up DMAC? What happened last week?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
lol…december…care to tell us which freshman will go #6 in a few years mctroll…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
——
Your mom
—-
Thanks. She’s dead. Along with my Dad. Few years after my brother & sister died too.
God bless you man.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
This is the same guy that posted ” Fart Noise” and “you ate clueless about everything” because someone has a different opinion.
Still LOL
You Monkeys are Crazy. Crazy!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
DMAC !! RAIDER O !!
good day to the GreenParty Prez and Vice prez !!
Vote Green in 2016 !!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
29?!?!?!
Tsk tsk tsk
You act like you are 9.
Should I Blame your parents or the school system?
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Cool story.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
crazy!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Are*
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
——
Your mom
—-
Thanks. She’s dead. Along with my Dad. Few years after my brother & sister died too.
God bless you man.
—–
I’m sure they’re all shaking their heads at you up in Magic Land?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
LondonAl Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
The Big Banana Says:
And why again did we not just roll with Pryor? This game meant nothing and was a perfect opportunity to see what he could do on a real game. Smh at this staff.
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pure selfishness on the part of allen
pulling a tom cable and hoping to pad his pathetic win total instead of evaluating young tp6 and giving him valuable development time in game.
this is treasonous
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Since when has it been treasonous to win a football game? Since when has it been treasonous to beat the hated Chiefs? I am not exactly a happy bunny with this season’s showing but come on man and get some perspective. We play to win. Nothing else to say.
Go Raiders!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
So the jets have bench Sanchez and will start Tebow? No…but Maceroy(SpellCheck) cuz they are officially out of the playoffs,to see what they have in their young guy at QB…Now can someone please for the love of God tell me why our Raiders haven’t figure this out???
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cuz they finally have decided sanchez sucks and will never start him again, that’s why. sanzhez and tebow will both be released. that’s how u do it. we have next year’s qb on the roster and he is justifiably playing most of the snaps.
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I’m not a Palmer hater by no means,but the season is done! And to be honesty Palmer has fell off as of late,idk his 3rd down percentage is but I kno through the 1st 3 quarters I kno it’s not good.Now in the 4th quarter he lights it up(WhenTheGameHasAlreadyBeenDecided)so why not give TP a few starts,I mean this team will move forward year after year Palmer will be gone in the next 2-3 years now if TP looks horrible cut him or change his position if he looks good bring Palmer to start next year and let TP continue to learn (AllieAronRogers)but if u cut him not knowin what he can do and he goes some where and be productive that will be another failure for this new regime cuz they have did nothing but fail when it comes down to picking coaches and players with the exception of Wheeler & Burris and his play as fell of as of late!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
——
Your mom
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Thanks. She’s dead. Along with my Dad. Few years after my brother & sister died too.
God bless you man.
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I’m sure they’re all shaking their heads at you up in Magic Land?
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Are you serious man?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Good morning ODB and Mr. Prez.
Vote Green in 2016!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
LondonAl Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
LondonAl Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
The Big Banana Says:
And why again did we not just roll with Pryor? This game meant nothing and was a perfect opportunity to see what he could do on a real game. Smh at this staff.
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pure selfishness on the part of allen
pulling a tom cable and hoping to pad his pathetic win total instead of evaluating young tp6 and giving him valuable development time in game.
this is treasonous
==================================
Since when has it been treasonous to win a football game? Since when has it been treasonous to beat the hated Chiefs? I am not exactly a happy bunny with this season’s showing but come on man and get some perspective. We play to win. Nothing else to say.
Go Raiders!
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So are you saying TP wldnt have or our young players wld have played to lose?
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Whats up DMAC? What happened last week?
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Had 2nd thoughts man. As much as I wanted to go, I decided to chill at the crib and save a little dough for some Christmas shopping.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
cuz they finally have decided sanchez sucks and will never start him again, that’s why. sanzhez and tebow will both be released. that’s how u do it. we have next year’s qb on the roster and he is justifiably playing most of the snaps.
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17 million dollar cap hit says Sanchez is not released. They cant afford to tie up 14% of their salary cap on 1 players that isn’t on the roster!
Rex and Tannenbaum will be fired, and they will bring in a guy like Norv with a proven track record of working with QBs and do everything they can to salvage Sanchez.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB
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Now the pass was “behind” DHB????
And the legend just kepps on growing, lol.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
No, i’m not serious. I don’t really believe in Magic
December 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
ODB,
What have you done to these people?
I never read so many posts about BW and toothless women.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
She’s dead. Along with my Dad. Few years after my brother & sister died too.
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OUCH
December 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Anyway.
Brandian Ross & Phillip Adams were brought in and kept around for a reason.
Now they are showing they can play.
Young, cheap CBs with size. They’ll be here for a while.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
lol O. maybe they know a good thing when it hums !!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Marshall was able to successfully blitz with Safties.
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This has been an epic fail even under Marshall.
MIGHT have worked 4 times even dating back to Marshall.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
How anyone can watch this season and not see that pass rush is #1, 2 & 3 priority is amazing.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Mustafa, stop gettin me banned
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Anyway.
Brandian Ross & Phillip Adams were brought in and kept around for a reason.
Now they are showing they can play.
Young, cheap CBs with size. They’ll be here for a while
================================================
Agreed!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
The only safety blitz that worked that I remember was the Huff/Branch blitz to win the game against SD.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Brutha from anutha mutha!!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Brandian Ross & Phillip Adams were brought in and kept around for a reason.
Now they are showing they can play.
Young, cheap CBs with size. They’ll be here for a while.
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Agreed.
Chekwa will get a shot too.
I think MM34 gets resigned too.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Pryor needs more than one pass in an actual NFL game before we can call him a bum. Until then, he’s just another project
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
How anyone can watch this season and not see that pass rush is #1, 2 & 3 priority is amazing.
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The same way you can watch this season and not see the coaching as a problem.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:53 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Brandian Ross & Phillip Adams were brought in and kept around for a reason.
Now they are showing they can play.
Young, cheap CBs with size. They’ll be here for a while.
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Agreed.
Chekwa will get a shot too.
I think MM34 gets resigned too.
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Agreed, not too sure on MM34 though.
I dont think he has any ability as a Safety. Great ST’s guy though..
December 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
How anyone can watch this season and not see that pass rush is #1, 2 & 3 priority is amazing.
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I don’t know, man.
OL has to be 1a, 2a, and 3a then.
We need a RT and OG BADLY!
December 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hellsbells Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Or the tackle from A&M, move Veldheer to the right side.
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Or we could leave our potential pro bowl LT at LT. Like seriously people? You can’t be this stupid.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Pryor needs NO more time at qb and lots more at te
December 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Hate the ‘what if’ game but..
If Palmer doesnt throw those killer picks in the ATL, TB & CLE games were looking at 7-7…
1 game out of the playoffs with 2 to play.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
The only safety blitz that worked that I remember was the Huff/Branch blitz to win the game against SD.
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Branch and Huff each had 4 sacks that year. Marshall was at least smart enough to know the best way to keep them from getting burned in coverage was to send them after the QB
December 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
ODB!!!!!
What up brotherrrrrr?!!!(Hulkster)
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Whats up DMAC? What happened last week?
========
Had 2nd thoughts man. As much as I wanted to go, I decided to chill at the crib and save a little dough for some Christmas shopping.
Nothing wrong with that…
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
The line isn’t as bad as the scheme. Greg Knapp is the reason the offense is so bad. No amount of players will fix that. The guy is just garbage everywhere he has went. Why he was brought back is beyond me
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I think MM34 has played well. He’s flashed in a positive way more than not.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
burn_209 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hellsbells Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Or the tackle from A&M, move Veldheer to the right side.
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Or we could leave our potential pro bowl LT at LT. Like seriously people? You can’t be this stupid.
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I think Veldheer has kind of lost that “potential pro bowl” label at this point.
Has struggled in pass protection.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
I saw Pryor throw one pass like “Uncle Rico” behind the knees of DHB
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Now the pass was “behind” DHB????
And the legend just kepps on growing, lol.
>>>>
I just watched it again… my mistake. It was a wounded duck in front of DHB at his ankles.
Do you dispute that it was at his ankles? I have the coaches film replay of it from the back endzone.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Ross looks like he can tackle. Wonder if he played any safety?
Huff has got to go, if he doesn’t restructure.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I think MM34 has played well. He’s flashed in a positive way more than not.
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I agree, I just dont think he can cover.
But I hope he proves me wrong.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Ross looks like he can tackle. Wonder if he played any safety?
Huff has got to go, if he doesn’t restructure.
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Well he got some snaps at Safety when Branch was hurt a couple games back.. Denver game I think..
December 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
only thing adams is good at is getting concussions mctool…just like spencer getting hurt just like bartell too..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
**************
shut up stupid face.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Get Wylie back!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I think Veldheer has kind of lost that “potential pro bowl” label at this point.
Has struggled in pass protection.
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But bad enough to move him over to the other side and put a rookie in his place? Yea I don’t think so lol
December 20th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Texans 12-2
Broncos 11-3
Patriots 10-4
Ravens 9-5
Colts 9-5
Bengals 8-6
Raiders 7-7
Steelers 7-7
Bengals finish with PITT & BAL
We finish with CAR & SD…
The “WHAT IF” game…
#Palmers3Picks
December 20th, 2012 at 10:03 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I think MM34 has played well. He’s flashed in a positive way more than not.
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Pass that schit J Hizzle!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
How anyone can watch this season and not see that pass rush is #1, 2 & 3 priority is amazing.
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I don’t know, man.
OL has to be 1a, 2a, and 3a then.
We need a RT and OG BADLY!
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We certainly need all these things. But Pass rush in my mind has to be top priority. Andre Carter has helped there is no doubt and the offensive line has certainly played better. While RT is going to become a HUGE need in the next years Barnes has been good enough that we can focus on other positions right now. At least thats jmho.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
is that year 5 of ten? last i saw we were 4-10….soon to be 4-12
December 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Call me crazy, but I have to wonder what our offense would have looked like if not for McFadden’s lack of vision in the ZBS. We’ve seen Goodson be fairly successful, and knowing that a good run game begets better pass protection which improves the passing game (nothing earth shattering here)…you just have to wonder.
That doesn’t mean I’m giving Krapp a pass. On the contrary, the coaches should have seen this early on and traded DMAC before the season while his stock was higher if they were hellbent on the ZBS, which they are.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:06 am
burn_209 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I think Veldheer has kind of lost that “potential pro bowl” label at this point.
Has struggled in pass protection.
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But bad enough to move him over to the other side and put a rookie in his place? Yea I don’t think so lol
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The point he’s making is you dont take a RT top 5.
But if there is a cant miss LT, you take him and slide Veldheer over.
Veldheer could be one of the best RT’s easily.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Do you dispute that it was at his ankles?
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I just thought it was funny how the propoganda was unfolding.
The pass landed past DHB. It was out in front of him, not at his feet. Yes, the pass was low but it should have been since the DB was all over half arssing DHB.
DHB came out of his route really half arssed. Like he did on that first pass from Palmer.
With all that said, Palmer should be the starter.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
So the jets have bench Sanchez and will start Tebow? No…but Maceroy(SpellCheck) cuz they are officially out of the playoffs,to see what they have in their young guy at QB…Now can someone please for the love of God tell me why our Raiders haven’t figure this out???
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cuz they finally have decided sanchez sucks and will never start him again, that’s why. sanzhez and tebow will both be released. that’s how u do it. we have next year’s qb on the roster and he is justifiably playing most of the snaps.
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I’m not a Palmer hater by no means,but the season is done! And to be honesty Palmer has fell off as of late,idk his 3rd down percentage is but I kno through the 1st 3 quarters I kno it’s not good.Now in the 4th quarter he lights it up(WhenTheGameHasAlreadyBeenDecided)so why not give TP a few starts,I mean this team will move forward year after year Palmer will be gone in the next 2-3 years now if TP looks horrible cut him or change his position if he looks good bring Palmer to start next year and let TP continue to learn (AllieAronRogers)but if u cut him not knowin what he can do and he goes some where and be productive that will be another failure for this new regime cuz they have did nothing but fail when it comes down to picking coaches and players with the exception of Wheeler & Burris and his play as fell of as of late!!!
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well, u just don’t really care about trying out the #3 qb when u already know who ur qb is for the next 2 or 3 seasons. he’s NOT A PRIORITY!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I think Veldheer has kind of lost that “potential pro bowl” label at this point.
Has struggled in pass protection.
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Veldheer has had one bad game, but he has played pretty darn well all year.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The rule change next year might have a critical impact on the ZBS.
So there might not be a choice in keeping it.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Huff has got to go, if he doesn’t restructure.
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Is that how we are going to reward him for stepping in at Corner?
Ouch!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
DA has said “huff is a free safety”.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Huff has got to go, if he doesn’t restructure.
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Is that how we are going to reward him for stepping in at Corner?
Ouch!
Agreed!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Pass that schit J Hizzle!!!!!!!!
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No
December 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
The title of this post is probably an allusion to the Dennis Green press conference meltdown.
To paraphrase: He [Keuchly] is who they [The Raiders] thought he [Romac] were
If you’re going to crown Kuechly, Cork, then crown him! The Raiders let him off the hook by not drafting him.
I like the parallel because both cases exhibit the same kind of helpless rage and frustration at having an inept team.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Huff & Branch are our safeties next season, no question.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:11 am
lol…i love it!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Was Keuchly a 260lb 3-4 ILB in college?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
The big question is can Shaughnessy develop into a Justin Smith type DE in a 3-4..
He has the frame..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
i would love a picture of mcclain in his green beanie. in a way, it would relieve me of all my anger at him.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
The big question is can Shaughnessy develop into a Justin Smith type DE in a 3-4..
He has the frame..
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well, he’s been replaced in the rotation by carter, so……..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
ODB!!!!!
What up brotherrrrrr?!!!(Hulkster)
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same ole same ole….
finished my Christmas shopping…. trees for everyone!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Hmm interesting. I think most MLB/ILB’s are under 6′2 and in this league anyhow.
Having low center of gravity is a good thing IMO. Easier to move laterally and stay low and make more consistent tackles.
Now people saying Te’o is too short makes zero sense.
Getting caught up in HWS measurables guys is not the way to go. You should know this by now.
It’s all about getting legit FOOTBALL players first.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Give McFelldown a green beanie too…
December 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
The big question is can Shaughnessy develop into a Justin Smith type DE in a 3-4..
He has the frame..
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well, he’s been replaced in the rotation by carter, so……..
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That’s because he has lost any ability to rush the passer he had, from a 4-3 DE’s spot.
I think he could be a solid 3-4 DE.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
But if there is a cant miss LT, you take him
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…and hope he isnt another Gallery… Al took that bonehead over Larry Fitzgerald…
I just hope ol Reg is better at scouting rookies than Mr. Davis (RIP) was in his final years…
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
If you can get legit pass rushers in the 2-7 rounds than Te’o is in play.
I just dont think he makes much of an impact on a defense that cant keep lineman from getting to the LBs..
Ray Lewis demanded they draft Ngata because he was being blocked all day…
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
lol O. maybe they know a good thing when it hums !!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
Ughh…..
Threw up in mouth.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Houston and Bryant should be our 3-4 DEs.
No brainer.
They are both 4-3 LDEs though.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
But if there is a cant miss LT, you take him
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…and hope he isnt another Gallery… Al took that bonehead over Larry Fitzgerald…
I just hope ol Reg is better at scouting rookies than Mr. Davis (RIP) was in his final years…
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For sure.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Huff has got to go, if he doesn’t restructure.
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Is that how we are going to reward him for stepping in at Corner?
Ouch!
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Huff belongs at safety and sadly he isn’t very good there either. Dude is waaaaaay 2 in consistent. No one is scared when they cross the middle.
I want to see a physical safety out there who isn’t dragging peoples down and finally making the tackle 10 yds down the field.
And I’m the one who wears the Huff jersey to all the games.
Just keeping it real.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Houston and Bryant should be our 3-4 DEs.
No brainer.
They are both 4-3 LDEs though.
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Agreed.
Just think Matt can make that transition as well..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:20 am
The pass landed past DHB. It was out in front of him, not at his feet. Yes, the pass was low but it should have been since the DB was all over half arssing DHB.
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It almost hit him on the foot. I just watched it frame by frame from the endzone. What view are YOU using?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:20 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Pass that schit J Hizzle!!!!!!!!
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No
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I don’t smoke that booboo any ways.
lol
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Give McFelldown a green beanie too…
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And a kick out the door…
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
But if there is a cant miss LT, you take him
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…and hope he isnt another Gallery… Al took that bonehead over Larry Fitzgerald…
I just hope ol Reg is better at scouting rookies than Mr. Davis (RIP) was in his final years…
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I think that may have been the one Year Al went with the Logical scouts Blue Chip pick instead of his Size, Speed deal. If he followed that, he would’ve have considered T-Rex arms for LT.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Give McFelldown a green beanie too…
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didn’t he just have a good game?
didn’t the raiders just have a good game?
it’s like it went completely unnoticed in here.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Where’s are QB on the D????????
Bring on Te’o!!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Te’o!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
How anyone can watch this season and not see that pass rush is #1, 2 & 3 priority is amazing.
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The same way you can watch this season and not see the coaching as a problem.
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LOL!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Brutha from anutha mutha!!!!!!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
My Brother….
Got some super duper Kush. Amazing.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Every year Huff does just enough to make you think he should stick around for next year. Then he ends up taking 7 weeks to hit stride. Just cut him already.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Where’s D!ck Seymour’s green beenie at????
He deserves one 2.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Trapp’s facemask was before its time..
Trail-blazer..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
blog green beanies for:
missdick
priest
kell
beech
sullivan
fangs
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Brutha from anutha mutha!!!!!!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
My Brother….
Got some super duper Kush. Amazing.
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What are you waiting for?????
Send me my Christmas gift?
I’ll send you my adress
Here’s my email……..yeris510@yahoo.com
I’ll be waiting
lol
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Where’s D!ck Seymour’s green beenie at????
He deserves one 2.
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He deserves a pink slip in his locker “Major Leage” style..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Forget the green beanies, where’s DA and Co. pink slips?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
didn’t the raiders just have a good game?
it’s like it went completely unnoticed in here.
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Zero touchdowns. The only reason the Raiders won any games at all this year is because the other teams played horribly.
So, yeah it was nice to see the run O and run D work for a change, but we should have seen at least 3 TD’s with the way the Chiefs were playing
December 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I want to see a physical safety out there
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I agree with that. I think Huff is better than Branch though. Not even close.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Where’s D!ck Seymour’s green beenie at????
He deserves one 2.
He needs a friggen bill for his non services…at least these last 2 years!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Mustafa, stop gettin me banned
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL at Preppie getting banned.
It wasn’t me, but at some point you do need to realize that no one likes a preppie from Mich. You can tolerate a preppie from NY, but no one can tolerate a ghetto preppie.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
SR Raider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
didn’t the raiders just have a good game?
it’s like it went completely unnoticed in here.
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Zero touchdowns. The only reason the Raiders won any games at all this year is because the other teams played horribly.
So, yeah it was nice to see the run O and run D work for a change, but we should have seen at least 3 TD’s with the way the Chiefs were playing
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take the win. take the improvement in a lot of areas.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I want to see a physical safety out there
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I agree with that. I think Huff is better than Branch though. Not even close.
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Branch sprinting toward a bad angle just looks more dramatic than Huff jogging toward a bad angle.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
The_Judge37 Says:
johnnie lee higgins…I heard he had some pretty good endzone dances, too bad we never got to see any of them.
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C’mon. He housed 3 on PR in ‘08. In ‘09 he, Chaz, and Murphy looked pretty good. I even liked Watkins, don’t know why. Along with DHB, I felt really good about our wide receivers going into 2010. Shows you what I know.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Got some super duper Kush. Amazing.
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Super duper, eh?
At least that’s what it was called on the menu, huh?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I want to see a physical safety out there
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I agree with that. I think Huff is better than Branch though. Not even close.
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branch is the far superior player actually. ask any nfl person.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
The coaching staff needs beanies as well, filled w/ baby schit.
They stink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I think we have a Top 5 defense if Giordano wasnt playing.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Hmm interesting. I think most MLB/ILB’s are under 6′2 and in this league anyhow.
Having low center of gravity is a good thing IMO. Easier to move laterally and stay low and make more consistent tackles.
Now people saying Te’o is too short makes zero sense.
Getting caught up in HWS measurables guys is not the way to go. You should know this by now.
It’s all about getting legit FOOTBALL players first.
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And getting caught up in the Notre Dame hype machine who plays behind a future 1st round NT is not the way to go. This isn’t the 60’s or 70’s or even 80’s. MLB is down the food chain as far as impact players go on Defense.
If you’re gonna take a MLB top 5 he better be Mr. Everything and that includes speed to burn & size to destroy every lineman in the the league. Someone on another board called him a better version of casey mathews
Big mistake if these bozos stay and take him.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Mock-Draft-First-Round-Kansas-City-Chiefs-Luke-Joeckel-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Bjoern-Werner-121812
December 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I think we have a Top 5 defense if Giordano wasnt playing.
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ur really trying to get a green beanie aren’t u?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Where’s are QB on the D????????
Bring on Te’o!!!!!!!!!!
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Sadly, your read between the lines decoder might be working.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Got some super duper Kush. Amazing.
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Super duper, eh?
At least that’s what it was called on the menu, huh?
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J Heezy
There’s some dope as schit out there.
Time to step your game up and stop puffing on that booboo.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Branch sprinting toward a bad angle just looks more dramatic than Huff jogging toward a bad angle.
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LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I think we have a Top 5 defense if Giordano wasnt playing.
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ur really trying to get a green beanie aren’t u?
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LOL.
He’s epicly bad though.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Where’s are QB on the D????????
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Bring in Tebow to play MLB!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
LOL Mr. Prez.
That’s your email?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
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I wouldnt take those 2 this year… no.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Branch sprinting toward a bad angle just looks more dramatic than Huff jogging toward a bad angle.
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Real talk tho
lol
December 20th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
LOL Mr. Prez.
That’s your email?
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Yes sirrrr
I’ll be waiting
December 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Also Branch shows a lot more passion in throwing his hands up after he bites on the underneath route than Huff or Gio, who just shake their heads at the ground.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
I don’t know how good Palmer is. How can u really judge the guy based on playing for cinci-freaking-natti and the Raiders the last couple years.
I think it’s clear that he is NOT “carry a bad team on his back and win anyway” type of good. Even the most zealous of Palmer guys would have to admit that.
Trouble is, there aren’t many of those type of guys around and available.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
dr_robert, you catch this?
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Que onda Green party!?
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Well then………
FK u guys 2 on this chilly morning in da O-A-K
December 20th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Houston could be dope at the DT position.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:37 am
God damn you PEOPLE!
Had a dream that DA went to another team and won a Super Bowl…New Orleans. I kept on trying to tell him that he proved everyone on the blog wrong because they didn’t believe. LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 10:37 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Also Branch shows a lot more passion in throwing his hands up after he bites on the underneath route than Huff or Gio, who just shake their heads at the ground.
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Almost all the way true, but Gio would probably be lying on the ground faking his injury after getting shook.
lol
December 20th, 2012 at 10:38 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:37 am
God damn you PEOPLE!
Had a dream that DA went to another team and won a Super Bowl…New Orleans. I kept on trying to tell him that he proved everyone on the blog wrong because they didn’t believe. LOL
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Thats some heavy schit ur puffing on Miami.
Pass that schit!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:38 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
LondonAl Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
LondonAl Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
The Big Banana Says:
And why again did we not just roll with Pryor? This game meant nothing and was a perfect opportunity to see what he could do on a real game. Smh at this staff.
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pure selfishness on the part of allen
pulling a tom cable and hoping to pad his pathetic win total instead of evaluating young tp6 and giving him valuable development time in game.
this is treasonous
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Since when has it been treasonous to win a football game? Since when has it been treasonous to beat the hated Chiefs? I am not exactly a happy bunny with this season’s showing but come on man and get some perspective. We play to win. Nothing else to say.
Go Raiders!
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So are you saying TP wldnt have or our young players wld have played to lose?
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That is not what I am saying. some here think DA acted in a way harmful to the Raiders by not playing Pryor. I am saying that DA’s job is to win football games. Period. I am tired of all the hate just because we win a game and don’t go to the top of the list when the draft happens. As Al Davis used to say “Just win baby!”
December 20th, 2012 at 10:39 am
820.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I think we have a Top 5 defense if Giordano wasnt playing.
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Gio reminds me of Schweigert…for the obvious reasons of course. Although I don’t imagine Gio being dragged 20 yd’s to the endzone like good ole’ Stu.
Gio would simply bail out and roll over holding his leg and writhing in pain.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:39 am
If you listen closely, you can hear Giordano on the ground in pain..
Oh nevermind, now he’s up.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:37 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Also Branch shows a lot more passion in throwing his hands up after he bites on the underneath route than Huff or Gio, who just shake their heads at the ground.
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Almost all the way true, but Gio would probably be lying on the ground faking his injury after getting shook.
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And i thought only Darrell Revis got injured after getting burned for TD’s
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
dr_robert, you catch this?
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Que onda Green party!?
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Well then………
FK u guys 2 on this chilly morning in da O-A-K
**********
he needs a hug.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
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And you dont pay 12 million plus for serviceable..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
DA svcks even when he was giving bonuses…
December 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Thank you London Al!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
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And you dont pay 12 million plus for serviceable..
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Exactly!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I am excited about this game with Carolina.
Mistic has thrown in all his chips betting on Cam Newton to humiliate us. Great fan huh? Always Raiders first and foremost; but seriously it will be interesting to see if the shutout was just a fluke against a horrible team or if there is some kind of turning the corner type of deal going on.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
he needs a hug
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or a bong hit !!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
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carson palmer=#18 passer of ALL-TIME. right behind dan marino and right ahead of brett favre.
people are making fools of themselves on here.
when pryor plays a little and SSSUUUUUCCCKKKKKSSSSSS, u will be able to hear wind chimes in here. at least for a few minutes, before missdick declares how racist the staff is for not giving the coaching that they give white qb’s.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I am saying. some here think DA acted in a way harmful to the Raiders by not playing Pryor. I am saying that DA’s job is to win football games. Period.
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Either way, DA is not doing his job.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Merry Christmas Raider coaching staff!
Here’s your green beenies filled w/ baby schit!!!!!
Courtesy of the Prez and my son.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:44 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I am excited about this game with Carolina.
Mistic has thrown in all his chips betting on Cam Newton to humiliate us. Great fan huh? Always Raiders first and foremost; but seriously it will be interesting to see if the shutout was just a fluke against a horrible team or if there is some kind of turning the corner type of deal going on.
I think its a little of both…we shutout a horrible team, but at least this time, a horrible team and qb (Quinn) didn’t look all pro on us, especially at home!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Merry Christmas Raider coaching staff!
Here’s your green beenies filled w/ baby schit!!!!!
Courtesy of the Prez and my son.
Stick some batteries in there and it may explode!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
dmac,
I wish it was the smoke. it’s probably from reading this everyday;
fire DA…Reggie Suckz
FIRE REGGIE
DA, worst coach ever
FIRE REGGIE
LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
he needs a hug
***********
or a bong hit !!
**************
or a gummer hummer !!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
he needs a hug
***********
or a bong hit !!
======
Or a thong w/ some chicks ass layed out in front of me.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Don’t get your hopes up, but I think I may have found a photo of Romac in the green beanie. He’s mostly obscured by Miles Burris but it’s the best I could do:
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Friday-Practice-Photos/e53c8d62-8c0b-4f76-9ff0-747dce297043#ee040ac4-2ce4-4c6b-af57-c806f337c8a3
December 20th, 2012 at 10:46 am
DJ Johnny Says:
I don’t know how good Palmer is. How can u really judge the guy based on playing for cinci-freaking-natti and the Raiders the last couple years.
I think it’s clear that he is NOT “carry a bad team on his back and win anyway” type of good. Even the most zealous of Palmer guys would have to admit that.
Trouble is, there aren’t many of those type of guys around and available.
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He tried and almost succeeded last year. His play on defense was atrocious, but on offense he damn near did carry us, Int’s be damned. Who knew we’d long for an OL of Veld-Wiz-Satelle- Coop and Barnes? I swear, with Brisiel and Smith on the right side, I have a hard time figuring out who or what else to blame for our offensive woes.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
he needs a hug
***********
or a bong hit !!
**************
or a gummer hummer !!
LMAO! Mike strikes again!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
It almost hit him on the foot. I just watched it frame by frame from the endzone. What view are YOU using?
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Taped the game, watched it 3 or 4 times right after the game when we were talking about it on the blog.
I don’t have your view.
What did you think of DHB route?
Did the ball land a yard or so past DHB?
Was the ball out in front of him?
And by the way, I don’t think DHB had a chance in hell to catch that pass even if it was a foot higher. Fastball in traffic?
Palmer should be the starter. AND we need a #1 WR.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Rank Quarterback Rating
1 Aaron Rodgers 104.2
2 Steve Young 96.8
3 Tom Brady 96.7
4 Tony Romo 95.7
5 P.Manning 95.5
6 Philip Rivers 94.2
7 Drew Brees 93.9
8 Kurt Warner 93.7
9 B.Roethlisberger 92.7
10 Matt Schaub 92.5
11 Joe Montana 92.3
12 C.Pennington 90.1
13 Matt Ryan 89.7
14 D. Culpepper 87.8
15 Jeff Garcia 87.5
16 Otto Graham 86.6
17 Dan Marino 86.4
18 Joe Flacco 86.2
18 Carson Palmer 86.2
20 Brett Favre 86.0
20 Trent Green 86.0
22 Shaun Hill 85.9
23 David Garrard 85.8
24 D.McNabb 85.6
25 Rich Gannon 84.7
26 Marc Bulger 84.4
26 Jim Kelly 84.4
28 Jay Cutler 84.1
29 Mark Brunell 84.0
30 M.Stafford 83.9
31 Roger Staubach 83.4
32 Steve McNair 82.8
33 Brian Griese 82.7
33 Neil Lomax 82.7
35 Len Dawson 82.6
Sonny Jurgensen 82.6
Eli Manning 82.6
38 Jason Campbell 82.5
Brad Johnson 82.5
40 Matt Hasselbeck 82.2
Rank Quarterback Rating
41 Ken Anderson 81.9
Josh Freeman 81.9
43 Bernie Kosar 81.8
Neil O’Donnell 81.8
45 Danny White 81.7
46 Troy Aikman 81.6
47 Randall Cunningham 81.5
Dave Krieg 81.5
49 Jake Delhomme 81.3
50 Boomer Esiason 81.1
51 Warren Moon 80.9
52 Michael Vick 80.7
53 Damon Huard 80.6
54 Jeff Hostetler 80.5
Bart Starr 80.5
56 Matt Cassel 80.4
Jeff George 80.4
Ken O’Brien 80.4
Fran Tarkenton 80.4
60 Steve Beuerlein 80.3
61 Dan Fouts 80.2
62 John Elway 79.9
63 Tony Eason 79.7
Kyle Orton 79.7
65 Elvis Grbac 79.6
66 Chris Chandler 79.1
Alex Smith 79.1
68 Byron Leftwich 78.9
Mark Rypien 78.9
70 Jim Everett 78.6
71 Aaron Brooks 78.5
Phil Simms 78.5
73 Bert Jones 78.2
Jim McMahon 78.2
Johnny Unitas 78.2
76 Jeff Blake 78.0
Bobby Hebert 78.0
78 Tarvaris Jackson 77.7
79 Jim Harbaugh 77.6
Frank Ryan 77.6
Rank Quarterback Rating
81 Jon Kitna 77.4
Joe Theismann 77.4
83 Charlie Batch 77.2
Bob Berry 77.2
85 Drew Bledsoe 77.1
Jay Fiedler 77.1
Bob Griese 77.1
88 Ryan Fitzpatrick 77.0
Bill Kenney 77.0
90 Sam Bradford 76.6
Gary Danielson 76.6
Erik Kramer 76.6
93 Doug Flutie 76.3
94 Chad Henne 75.8
Stan Humphries 75.8
96 J. P. Losman 75.6
Wade Wilson 75.6
98 Steve Bartkowski 75.4
Trent Edwards 75.4
100 Steve Bono 75.3
Scott Mitchell 75.3
Ken Stabler 75.3
103 Jim Miller 75.2
104 Tim Couch 75.1
Norm Van Brocklin 75.1
106 Sid Luckman 75.0
Vinny Testaverde 75.0
108 David Carr 74.9
Chris Miller 74.9
Patrick Ramsey 74.9
111 Don Meredith 74.8
Brian Sipe 74.8
113 Ty Detmer 74.7
114 Jake Plummer 74.6
115 Vince Young 74.4
116 Craig Erickson 74.3
Roman Gabriel 74.3
Y. A. Tittle 74.3
119 Steve DeBerg 74.2
Gus Frerotte 74.2
Rank Quarterback Rating
121 Earl Morrall 74.1
122 Kerry Collins 73.8
123 Frankie Albert 73.5
Hugh Millen 73.5
Craig Morton 73.5
126 Rodney Peete 73.3
127 Daryle Lamonica 72.9
Greg Landry 72.9
Don Majkowski 72.9
Frank Reich 72.9
Mark Sanchez 72.9
132 Ron Jaworski 72.8
Tommy Kramer 72.8
134 Tony Banks 72.4
Tommy Maddox 72.4
136 Bubby Brister 72.3
John Brodie 72.3
John Friesz 72.3
139 Sammy Baugh 72.2
Milt Plum 72.2
Bill Wade 72.2
142 Gary Hogeboom 71.9
143 Quincy Carter 71.7
Jay Schroeder 71.7
145 Billy Kilmer 71.6
Steve Pelluer 71.6
147 Bill Munson 71.5
148 Rex Grossman 71.4
149 Josh McCown 71.2
150 Terry Bradshaw 70.9
Lynn Dickey 70.9
152 Kordell Stewart 70.7
153 George Ratterman 70.4
154 Trent Dilfer 70.2
Bill Nelsen 70.2
156 Steve Fuller 70.1
Vince Ferragamo 70.1
158 Jeff Kemp 70.0
159 Steve Grogan 69.6
Pat Haden 69.6
Rank Quarterback Rating
161 Kyle Boller 69.5
162 Joey Harrington 69.4
Doug Williams 69.4
164 Charley Johnson 69.2
165 Derek Anderson 69.0
Kent Graham 69.0
167 Mike Tomczak 68.9
168 Eric Hipple 68.7
169 Joe Ferguson 68.4
170 Charlie Conerly 68.2
171 Dave M. Brown 67.9
172 Marc Wilson 67.7
Billy Joe Tolliver 67.7
174 Tom Flores 67.6
Richard Todd 67.6
176 Jim Plunkett 67.5
177 John Hadl 67.4
178 Jim Zorn 67.3
James Harris 67.3
180 Archie Manning 67.1
181 Rudy Bukich 66.6
Jim Hart 66.6
183 Tommy Thompson 66.5
184 Steve Walsh 66.4
185 Steve Dils 65.8
186 David Woodley 65.7
187 Joe Namath 65.5
Norm Snead 65.5
189 Dave Wilson 63.8
190 Rick Mirer 63.5
191 Bobby Layne 63.4
192 Jack Trudeau 63.3
Mike Pagel 63.3
Mike Livingston 63.3
195 Danny Kanell 63.2
196 Vince Evans 63.0
197 Bobby Thomason 62.9
198 Ed Brown 62.8
199 Gary Cuozzo 62.1
200 Mark Malone 61.9
Rank Quarterback Rating
201 Bob Waterfield 61.6
202 Eddie LeBaron 61.4
Randy Wright 61.4
204 Glenn Dobbs 61.0
205 George Blanda 60.6
206 Steve Spurrier 60.1
207 Babe Parilli 59.6
208 David Whitehurst 59.2
209 Dan Pastorini 59.1
210 Steve Ramsey 58.9
211 Jack Kemp 57.3
212 Tobin Rote 56.8
Dennis Shaw 56.8
214 Scott Brunner 56.3
215 Jim Ninowski 55.4
216 Randy Johnson 55.1
Joe Kapp 55.1
218 Cotton Davidson 54.9
219 Bob Avellini 54.8
Paul Christman 54.8
Jack Concannon 54.8
222 Jim Finks 54.7
223 Zeke Bratkowski 54.3
224 Joe Pisarcik 53.9
225 Al Dorow 53.8
226 Jim Hardy 53.1
227 Dick Wood 52.9
228 Mike Phipps 52.6
229 Frank Tripucka 52.2
Adrian Burk 52.2
231 Lamar McHan 50.3
232 Arnie Herber 50.1
233 Pete Beathard 49.9
234 Bobby Douglass 48.5
235 Mike Taliaferro 46.1
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I think its a little of both…we shutout a horrible team, but at least this time, a horrible team and qb (Quinn) didn’t look all pro on us, especially at home!
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Man i guess i can give them credit for that. Better than limiting Trenton Richardson, but make Weeden look like Aaron Rodgers, then Limit Manning, but make Slowshon Moreno look like Adrian Peterson.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
844.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
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I think he’s better than “serviceable”.
The guy is the 18th rated passer of all time.
But he has shown he is not good enough to take a bad team and win anyway…which is what a guy like Luck is doing now.
W/o getting into a peeing match about Palmer where do we get someone better that CAN do that?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Or a thong w/ some chicks ass layed out in front of me.
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not to sure if Betty White still has the azz to wear a thong !! but he11 you know it works for me !!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Green beanie=Dunce cap
Should have just sat him in a corner somewhere.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
he needs a hug
***********
or a bong hit !!
**************
or a gummer hummer !!
Reminds me of that old NWA song….
Gently put ____ in mouth and … HUMMMMMMMM!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
So Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in NFL history…
LOL.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
864,
Sorry Dr. Rob. You beat me to it.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:49 am
J Hill Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Palmer should be the starter. AND we need a #1 WR.
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And we need an OC that knows how to draw up routes. The decay all starts with Knapp
December 20th, 2012 at 10:49 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I think its a little of both…we shutout a horrible team, but at least this time, a horrible team and qb (Quinn) didn’t look all pro on us, especially at home!
——–
Man i guess i can give them credit for that. Better than limiting Trenton Richardson, but make Weeden look like Aaron Rodgers, then Limit Manning, but make Slowshon Moreno look like Adrian Peterson.
Agreed!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Palmer has made 3 bad throws ALL year!!!!!
Get off his nutz already,
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And JP Losman is better than Ken Stabler…
LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
844.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
—
I think he’s better than “serviceable”.
The guy is the 18th rated passer of all time.
But he has shown he is not good enough to take a bad team and win anyway…which is what a guy like Luck is doing now.
W/o getting into a peeing match about Palmer where do we get someone better that CAN do that?
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the colts are winning in SPITE of andrew luck. he is the #31 passer in the league. forget hype. know reality.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
So Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in NFL history…
LOL.
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yes.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Or a thong w/ some chicks ass layed out in front of me.
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not to sure if Betty White still has the azz to wear a thong !! but he11 you know it works for me !!
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Just rip the granny panties up her ass super tight!
There you have it.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
867.R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Or a thong w/ some chicks ass layed out in front of me.
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not to sure if Betty White still has the azz to wear a thong !! but he11 you know it works for me !!
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Hahaha. I love that Betty White stuff…That is hilarious.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And JP Losman is better than Ken Stabler…
LOL
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take a look at stabler’s stats. i love the dude but he wasn’t that good.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:52 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And JP Losman is better than Ken Stabler…
LOL
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take a look at stabler’s stats. i love the dude but he wasn’t that good.
——
Pretty good stats for a never ending hangover.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Stats dont win games.
Points do.
Ask GDog.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Palmer needs help.
He needs an o-line that can give him time, and produce a running game.
He needs decent WRs.
He needs a defense that will not turn almost all of his turnovers into points for the opposition. he is going to gamble and lose the ball sometimes, but the defense just needs to stop SOME of those drives.
Put Palmer on a decent team with those ingrediants and he could win a Super Bowl…..too bad we are nowhere near having much of that stuff.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Mr. Prez,
Did you get it?
December 20th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Im out early today.
God Bless. Even you trolls.
Raider on.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
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Go look at what Singletary had surrounding him and Seau was one of the most overrated players I’ve ever seen…I just saw 2 more mock drafts that had him out of the top 15.
And why is he a mixture of those 2? Cuz he plays against the Big 10 schedule? That’s a gawd awful conference.
And furthermore, this is top 5 we are talking about, not the 1st round.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Stats dont win games.
Points do.
Ask GDog.
>>>>
Ha.. tell us again how Farve never threw any bad interceptions bro. I nearly had to pick my Viking buddy up from the floor from that one!
December 20th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Stats dont win games.
Points do.
Ask GDog.
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Not so fun fact: Greg Knapps offensive points and yardage totals drop in year 2
December 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
844.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
—
I think he’s better than “serviceable”.
The guy is the 18th rated passer of all time.
But he has shown he is not good enough to take a bad team and win anyway…which is what a guy like Luck is doing now.
W/o getting into a peeing match about Palmer where do we get someone better that CAN do that?
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Its the killer INT he throws at CRUCIAL moments of the game.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
881.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:52 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And JP Losman is better than Ken Stabler…
LOL
***************
take a look at stabler’s stats. i love the dude but he wasn’t that good.
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Pretty good stats for a never ending hangover.
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Crazy part is that when Stabler was QB it was ok to dive at the QBs knees, hit him in the head etc…Cannot imagine Brady being able to stand-up to the punishment that QBs of yester-years took.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I like Star, but getting a two gap fat NT/DT type within the top 3 picks would be an ill advised move.
You pick a top QB, top pass rushing OLB/DE, stud LB, maaaaybe a stud LT (even though I think that philosophy is overrated) or an elite RB (like AP) or otherwordly freak WR (like Megatron)
Look at the DT’s/NT’s who haev been top 4 picks recently. No impact, except for Ngata and he was picked 9th overall I believe the year we picked Huff.
2005 Travis Johnson was taken by Houston at 16. Where is he?
2006 Ngata was actually taken 12th. He is a stud.
Brod Bunkley was taken at 14 and he is servicable….I guess.
2007 Amobe Okoye and Justin Harrell were taken within the top 16. They stink! Patrick Willis was taken 11th and by all rights could haev been taken 4 spots higher.
2008 The year we took DMC and soem fo you were screaminfor Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis who were taken within the top 10 after we took DMC. Both of those guys have had no impact!
2009 The year Al reached and took DHB. BJ Raji was taken two spots after. I think most of us agree we should have taken at least 6 players ahead of DHB in that draft. BJ is one of them….however, BJ started off good, but has faded the last two years. He is overweight and gets tired way to quickly to make an impact on play by play basis.
2010 I think we all would have loved to have Suh be a Raider. Gerald McCoy? Not so much….he has faded. Suh has made an impact, even though he is bipolar and is not a leader. We took RoMac and of course he will be with the team next year.
2011 Marcel Dareus has been a non factor on a bad Bills D. The Lions should haev stayed away from Nick Fairley….an underachiever.
So there you go fellas. Is Star as dominant as Suh??
Hmm…..
December 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Here’s Romac #55 on the sidelines in his green beanie while Pryor passes. On the left side of the frame in the background:
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Thursday-Practice-Photos/e8ef21ae-d977-46e9-9a25-38564f4276fe#75837c26-af95-494a-8e2c-a90cb9c357f1
December 20th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Palmer needs help.
He needs an o-line that can give him time, and produce a running game.
He needs decent WRs.
He needs a defense that will not turn almost all of his turnovers into points for the opposition. he is going to gamble and lose the ball sometimes, but the defense just needs to stop SOME of those drives.
Put Palmer on a decent team with those ingrediants and he could win a Super Bowl…..too bad we are nowhere near having much of that stuff.
>>>>
Well said. Palmer is not the problem here. We’ve been waiting for ten years for a QB this good and all people do is complain about him.
December 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Crazy part is that when Stabler was QB it was ok to dive at the QBs knees, hit him in the head etc…Cannot imagine Brady being able to stand-up to the punishment that QBs of yester-years took.
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I wish Kalif Barnes played in the Deacon Jones era, just so he could get slapped in the head on every down
December 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Rockstar,
I am going to kill you in the FFL Championship.
Just a friendly FYI.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:00 am
gOT IT o dOG
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
CP3 is cool w/ me, but not for 12mil or whatever he’s going to be making next season.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
=================
Go look at what Singletary had surrounding him and Seau was one of the most overrated players I’ve ever seen…I just saw 2 more mock drafts that had him out of the top 15.
And why is he a mixture of those 2? Cuz he plays against the Big 10 schedule? That’s a gawd awful conference.
And furthermore, this is top 5 we are talking about, not the 1st round.
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notre dame isn’t it in the big ten. best player on the best team in the country. best player on the best defense in the country. he leads them in tackles AND has 7 int’s. very smart, very tuff, and a great leader.
and u wouldn’t like a hall-of-fame MLB in the top 5?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:02 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
881.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:52 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And JP Losman is better than Ken Stabler…
LOL
***************
take a look at stabler’s stats. i love the dude but he wasn’t that good.
——
Pretty good stats for a never ending hangover.
___________________________________________________________
Crazy part is that when Stabler was QB it was ok to dive at the QBs knees, hit him in the head etc…Cannot imagine Brady being able to stand-up to the punishment that QBs of yester-years took.
———————
You can’t compare QB’s of yesteryear with today. Rules are so different.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Palmer needs help.
He needs an o-line that can give him time, and produce a running game.
He needs decent WRs.
He needs a defense that will not turn almost all of his turnovers into points for the opposition. he is going to gamble and lose the ball sometimes, but the defense just needs to stop SOME of those drives.
Put Palmer on a decent team with those ingrediants and he could win a Super Bowl…..too bad we are nowhere near having much of that stuff.
>>>>
Well said. Palmer is not the problem here. We’ve been waiting for ten years for a QB this good and all people do is complain about him.
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fool! fools i say!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
CP3 is cool w/ me, but not for 12mil or whatever he’s going to be making next season.
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that’s not really that much for a golden haired hero.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hmmmm,
I have three spots to play 4 decent RBs….I know I will start Adrian Peterson, but which two of BJGE, Mike Leshoure, and Deangelo Williams do I play?
Williams has been hot….and he is playing the Raiders defense…..
I’ll check back in a little while for your advice.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Rank Quarterback Rating
1 Aaron Rodgers 104.2
2 Steve Young 96.8
3 Tom Brady 96.7
4 Tony Romo 95.7
5 P.Manning 95.5
6 Philip Rivers 94.2
7 Drew Brees 93.9
8 Kurt Warner 93.7
9 B.Roethlisberger 92.7
10 Matt Schaub 92.5
11 Joe Montana 92.3
12 C.Pennington 90.1
13 Matt Ryan 89.7
14 D. Culpepper 87.8
15 Jeff Garcia 87.5
16 Otto Graham 86.6
17 Dan Marino 86.4
18 Joe Flacco 86.2
18 Carson Palmer 86.2
20 Brett Favre 86.0
December 20th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hmmmm,
I have three spots to play 4 decent RBs….I know I will start Adrian Peterson, but which two of BJGE, Mike Leshoure, and Deangelo Williams do I play?
Williams has been hot….and he is playing the Raiders defense…..
I’ll check back in a little while for your advice.
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i refuse to ever play a player that is playing the raiders. won’t do it. but hey that’s me. i love the raiders. can’t speak for u.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:06 am
897.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
CP3 is cool w/ me, but not for 12mil or whatever he’s going to be making next season.
_______________________________________________________
Totally agree, with all the rhetoric about having $30M in the bank and not needing to play football, I hope he takes a big pay cut to bring in a legit #1 receiver. Also a really good TE would be nice, double TE sets!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I like Star, but getting a two gap fat NT/DT type within the top 3 picks would be an ill advised move.
You pick a top QB, top pass rushing OLB/DE, stud LB, maaaaybe a stud LT (even though I think that philosophy is overrated) or an elite RB (like AP) or otherwordly freak WR (like Megatron)
Look at the DT’s/NT’s who haev been top 4 picks recently. No impact, except for Ngata and he was picked 9th overall I believe the year we picked Huff.
2005 Travis Johnson was taken by Houston at 16. Where is he?
2006 Ngata was actually taken 12th. He is a stud.
Brod Bunkley was taken at 14 and he is servicable….I guess.
2007 Amobe Okoye and Justin Harrell were taken within the top 16. They stink! Patrick Willis was taken 11th and by all rights could haev been taken 4 spots higher.
2008 The year we took DMC and soem fo you were screaminfor Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis who were taken within the top 10 after we took DMC. Both of those guys have had no impact!
2009 The year Al reached and took DHB. BJ Raji was taken two spots after. I think most of us agree we should have taken at least 6 players ahead of DHB in that draft. BJ is one of them….however, BJ started off good, but has faded the last two years. He is overweight and gets tired way to quickly to make an impact on play by play basis.
2010 I think we all would have loved to have Suh be a Raider. Gerald McCoy? Not so much….he has faded. Suh has made an impact, even though he is bipolar and is not a leader. We took RoMac and of course he will be with the team next year.
2011 Marcel Dareus has been a non factor on a bad Bills D. The Lions should haev stayed away from Nick Fairley….an underachiever.
So there you go fellas. Is Star as dominant as Suh??
Hmm…..
I would still rather have Te’o ahead of Star without a doubt. He would be the new QB and leader of the defense. Stud LB, all heart with great work ethic and a good kid also, who would probably be a captain as well in his first year. Then look to add a fat NT type through FA or in the middle rounds of the draft.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:08 am
i LOVE seeing mcclain in his green beanie. so glad they kept him around to humiliate him. dunce cap. awesome.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Bring on our new QB on the D!
Te’o!!!
Te’o!!!
Te’o!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Gerald McCoy? Not so much….he has faded. Suh has made an impact, even though he is bipolar and is not a leader
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Or is having his best year in the pro’s, definitely outperforming Suh this year.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
when’s the last time a MLB was voted player of the year? teo!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
898.dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
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Go look at what Singletary had surrounding him and Seau was one of the most overrated players I’ve ever seen…I just saw 2 more mock drafts that had him out of the top 15.
And why is he a mixture of those 2? Cuz he plays against the Big 10 schedule? That’s a gawd awful conference.
And furthermore, this is top 5 we are talking about, not the 1st round.
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notre dame isn’t it in the big ten. best player on the best team in the country. best player on the best defense in the country. he leads them in tackles AND has 7 int’s. very smart, very tuff, and a great leader.
and u wouldn’t like a hall-of-fame MLB in the top 5?
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Crazy how people don’t see Te’o as a special talent.
Bunch of weirdos.
Get ready for the fake mock drafts and false rumors that will try and say Te’o is “too slow” to try and drop his stock so he falls to a good team in the late middle to late 1st round and he dominates! haha
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Reggie should be forced to wear the green beanie until he gets the Raiders back to 8-8.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:11 am
909.bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Gerald McCoy? Not so much….he has faded. Suh has made an impact, even though he is bipolar and is not a leader
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Or is having his best year in the pro’s, definitely outperforming Suh this year.
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Tampa D still has problems.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
898.dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
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Go look at what Singletary had surrounding him and Seau was one of the most overrated players I’ve ever seen…I just saw 2 more mock drafts that had him out of the top 15.
And why is he a mixture of those 2? Cuz he plays against the Big 10 schedule? That’s a gawd awful conference.
And furthermore, this is top 5 we are talking about, not the 1st round.
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notre dame isn’t it in the big ten. best player on the best team in the country. best player on the best defense in the country. he leads them in tackles AND has 7 int’s. very smart, very tuff, and a great leader.
and u wouldn’t like a hall-of-fame MLB in the top 5?
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Crazy how people don’t see Te’o as a special talent.
Bunch of weirdos.
Get ready for the fake mock drafts and false rumors that will try and say Te’o is “too slow” to try and drop his stock so he falls to a good team in the late middle to late 1st round and he dominates! haha
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
with teo, u get pictures of him going home and going to his sisters’ volleyball games and cheering for them. with mcclain (the dunce), u get pictures of him getting shackled and laughing about it.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hmmmm,
I have three spots to play 4 decent RBs….I know I will start Adrian Peterson, but which two of BJGE, Mike Leshoure, and Deangelo Williams do I play?
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Stewart may be back this week I thought, if not Williams is a decent start, otherwise I’d roll with BJGE. He has been hot recently as well. Leshoure has faded terribly, not worth a start. AP will make up for it anyways.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
908.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Bring on our new QB on the D!
Te’o!!!
Te’o!!!
Te’o!!!
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Ah hell yeah!
This team needs LB’s….for once!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
So the jets have bench Sanchez and will start Tebow? No…but Maceroy(SpellCheck) cuz they are officially out of the playoffs,to see what they have in their young guy at QB…Now can someone please for the love of God tell me why our Raiders haven’t figure this out???
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cuz they finally have decided sanchez sucks and will never start him again, that’s why. sanzhez and tebow will both be released. that’s how u do it. we have next year’s qb on the roster and he is justifiably playing most of the snaps.
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I’m not a Palmer hater by no means,but the season is done! And to be honesty Palmer has fell off as of late,idk his 3rd down percentage is but I kno through the 1st 3 quarters I kno it’s not good.Now in the 4th quarter he lights it up(WhenTheGameHasAlreadyBeenDecided)so why not give TP a few starts,I mean this team will move forward year after year Palmer will be gone in the next 2-3 years now if TP looks horrible cut him or change his position if he looks good bring Palmer to start next year and let TP continue to learn (AllieAronRogers)but if u cut him not knowin what he can do and he goes some where and be productive that will be another failure for this new regime cuz they have did nothing but fail when it comes down to picking coaches and players with the exception of Wheeler & Burris and his play as fell of as of late!!!
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well, u just don’t really care about trying out the #3 qb when u already know who ur qb is for the next 2 or 3 seasons. he’s NOT A PRIORITY!
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Who in here thinks Palmer is a lock for the next 2 or 3 season me personally I doubt it,he been in this league to long for his pocket awareness to be so bad I kno he isn’t mobile but neither is Brady,Brees,or The Mannings but boy can dey manipulate that pocket when it breaks down,I’m not saying TP is our saving grace but to sit here and say he shld not be getting time in these hope the season hurry and end games is foolish so shld all the draft picks from the last two years its not just TP we gotta see what these guys can do and if they can’t get it done move on why waste roster spots if we wld have done that 3years ago we wldnt have known what we had in guys like Tyvon Branch he got a shot and has been one of the solid players for us…but if you say forget trying to develop younger players what do we have to build on because the draft is just a crap shoot and the only way u can tell if they can play is by playin them!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Reggie should be forced to wear the green beanie until he gets the Raiders back to 8-8.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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u have been added to the green beanie brigade.
missdick
priest
kell
beech
sullivan
fangs
hunter s.
now u think about u’ve done and the company ur in.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:15 am
missdick
priest
kell
beech
sullivan
fangs
hunter s.
jokefoshow—how could i forget?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:15 am
bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hmmmm,
I have three spots to play 4 decent RBs….I know I will start Adrian Peterson, but which two of BJGE, Mike Leshoure, and Deangelo Williams do I play?
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Stewart may be back this week I thought, if not Williams is a decent start, otherwise I’d roll with BJGE. He has been hot recently as well. Leshoure has faded terribly, not worth a start. AP will make up for it anyways
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Plus Lions will probably be playing from behind and not run much.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
is this the kind of blogger u want to be?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
If we’re going to keep Carson around (and I think we should, Campbell would’ve died behind the o-line in Week 3)the team needs to get him a #1 free agent WR. That more than anything else would help the O.
The lines are the most important, but I think a good WR would make the most immediate positive impact. Carson may throw picks, but he knows what to do with a good wide receiver.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
JaMarcus Russell.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
u are not blogging.
u know that, right????
December 20th, 2012 at 11:19 am
missdick
priest
kell
beech
sullivan
fangs
hunter s.
jokefoshow—how could i forget?
Dr_Robert, Mistic’s btch.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
If we’re going to keep Carson around (and I think we should, Campbell would’ve died behind the o-line in Week 3)the team needs to get him a #1 free agent WR. That more than anything else would help the O.
The lines are the most important, but I think a good WR would make the most immediate positive impact. Carson may throw picks, but he knows what to do with a good wide receiver.
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interesting position for the raiders.
next year will be moore’s 3rd, and that’s the breakout season for wr’s. dhb is well…..hard to figure really. then u have 2 rookies who seem like they could be good. getting a #1 would be good but is it a priority? u heard it here first—moore may be trade bait for a good pick.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I’m sorry I don’t put much stock in the draft and being an Oakland fan I shld not,but we really don’t know how these guys will translate to the league with so many late round gems and first round bust the draft is a crap shoot…hope ya hit 7 but snakes eyes is always on the dice!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Sign Bowe!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
u are not blogging.
u know that, right????
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ur just solidifying ur position with that group. u need to think long and hard about spending ur life being associated with that type of riff-raff. i think ur better than that. but i can’t force u.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Stop fighting! Remember your Hippocratic Oaths! For the love of God!!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Men of your esteemed profession should know better than to quarrel with each other. What are you, Broncos fans?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:19 am
missdick
priest
kell
beech
sullivan
fangs
hunter s.
jokefoshow—how could i forget?
Dr_Robert, Mistic’s btch.
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kell, maybe u should purchase a joke book or something. ask for one for Christmas. cuz ur attempts at humor just are very weak. it’s ok. being a comedian isn’t for everyone.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
923.papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
If we’re going to keep Carson around (and I think we should, Campbell would’ve died behind the o-line in Week 3)the team needs to get him a #1 free agent WR. That more than anything else would help the O.
The lines are the most important, but I think a good WR would make the most immediate positive impact. Carson may throw picks, but he knows what to do with a good wide receiver.
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We can assume that Reggie knows the value of having good receivers…and LOTS of them if his time in GB is any indication.
-Jennings
-Jordy Nelson
-Finley
-James Jones
-Driver
ALL of those guys are sure handed, solid “go to” guys.
They don’t have to be big names…just ballers.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Men of your esteemed profession should know better than to quarrel with each other. What are you, Broncos fans?
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he gives doctors like me, dr. pepper, dr. dre, and dr. detroit bad names.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:26 am
>>notre dame isn’t it in the big ten.>>
Yes, I know but the majority of the conference they play is the Suck 10.
>>best player on the best team in the country>>
Yeah sure. I wonder how Notre Dame would have fared playing in the SEC.
>>best player on the best defense in the country. >>
Again, the best defense? I think Alabama will have something to say about that. Not to mention the NT may be the best player on the D.
>>he leads them in tackles AND has 7 int’s. very smart, very tuff, and a great leader.>>
Whoopty doo. Sounds like you’re describing every MLB ever taken in the 1st round..In fact, sounds a lot like McClain.
>>and u wouldn’t like a hall-of-fame MLB in the top 5?>>
LOL! So now it’s automatic that he’s gonna be a HOF’er huh?….Give me a break. If that’s the case then he would be a CONSENSUS top 5 pick, and there wouldn’t be so many websites mocking him to go low. Not to mention scouts questioning how Teo’s game will translate to the Pro’s.
Everybody agreed that Calvin Johnson was the real deal. Size, speed, production, etc.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:26 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I’m sorry I don’t put much stock in the draft and being an Oakland fan I shld not,but we really don’t know how these guys will translate to the league with so many late round gems and first round bust the draft is a crap shoot…hope ya hit 7 but snakes eyes is always on the dice!!!
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Yep, plus the Coaches and Org in developing draft choices.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Dr. Robrt, Are you wearing a JaMarcus Russell jersey right now?
Aren’t you guy who swore JaMarcus Russell was a can’t miss prospect and insulted anyone who begged to differ?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Dr. Robert,
As far as our Wide Receivers are concerned, I’ve seen the Raiders duck the issue too many times while waiting for “potential” to mature. I hope our guys come to play next season but I’m not counting on it. I’m also not saying we do something half-a$$ed either like bringing in another Javon Walker (Greg Jennings). We NEED to get a proven #1.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:29 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:47 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Last year our strongest part of the O-Line was a 2nd year player and a rookie on the left side. This year they both looked more lost. That’s wrong direction and is on the coaching staff. They preach patience and continuity, but they did the oposite when they came in here.
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It’s unfair to expect Knapp to come in here and take over someone elses offense right where it left off. He needs to be able to teach what he knows to be successful under everyone but himself.
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I wouldn’t say that. How many offenses and defenses dramatically improve their first year with a new coordinator. MANY. Look at Denver’s defense this year. From #24 to top 10. Look at Houston’s a few years ago when they got their Defensive Coordinator. From #30 to top 10. look at Indianapolis’ offense this year with new QB, new coordinator, lot of rookies etc.
Knapp HISTORICALLY has not had successful offenses, even in his 2nd or 3rd years (and there’s reasons he hasn’t lasted longer than 2nd year in most places).
And, despite his 1st year historically being bad, his 2nd year in the same place historically has been worse than his 1st year. Look for yourself.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Nice job with Dr. Detroit, by the way!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like how the debates always turn into personal insults when people have nothing rational or intelligent to say or any sort of rebuttle.
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Your mom
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Thanks. She’s dead. Along with my Dad. Few years after my brother & sister died too.
God bless you man.
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Sorry for your loss my man. LMFAO. No really I am soory for your loss!! ROFLMAO
December 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
with teo, u get pictures of him going home and going to his sisters’ volleyball games and cheering for them. with mcclain (the dunce), u get pictures of him getting shackled and laughing about it.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhh…May the good lord bless him. Let’s get Tebow in here too, they will be great role models for us kids!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:32 am
It’s widely accepted.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
If we get Teo and Tebow, the Raiders can host Bible study every week, which would bring the fanbase closer together! Napolean Kaufman can lead it and everything!
A new era of Christian Enlightenment. Raiders games would be so holy and healthsome. You could bring the family!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
881.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:52 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And JP Losman is better than Ken Stabler…
LOL
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take a look at stabler’s stats. i love the dude but he wasn’t that good.
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Pretty good stats for a never ending hangover.
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In his prime (1978?) Stabler was the top passer OF ALL TIME statistically.
His stats plummeted when he went to Houston for a couple years and then New Orleans with Bum Phillips.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
We’d have to get rid of Jano, though. That man has the devil inside him!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
What an idea, Teo & Tebow!!!!! Wow! that Mormon marketing would be great in Oakland!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/manti-teo-will-be-a-first-round-pick-but-some-question-his-speed/
Manti Te’o will be a first-round pick, but some question his speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 8, 2012, 12:53 PM EST
Notre Dame middle linebacker Manti Te’o has had a brilliant senior season and is a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, and he’s widely viewed as a first-round pick in April’s NFL draft. But he’s not necessarily viewed as a sure thing in the NFL.
Albert Breer of NFL Network talked to several personnel people about Te’o, and although scouts like him, they don’t necessarily love him because some question whether he has the speed to be as impressive a player in pass coverage in the NFL as he has been this year at Notre Dame, when he had seven interceptions.
“Speed will be a factor with Manti, because you’re gonna be in a position to cover backs and tight ends at that spot, and not just on third down,” one AFC executive told Breer. “Teams throw on first and second down, so you have to be able to run and cover. You don’t want liabilities in coverage in your base. I don’t think he’s a liability. Does he run well enough? He’s not speed-deficient, but with his play speed, in covereage, there are some specific guys you’d have questions about. Guys like Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles, or the [Chris] Cooley or [Dallas] Clark types, those guys get separation. You might be worried about him there.”
Knocking a linebacker because he’s not as quick as Darren Sproles strikes me as similar to knocking a cornerback because he’s not as big as Calvin Johnson, but the larger point is fair: NFL teams may be able to create some matchup advantages on pass plays by throwing over the middle and making the 6-foot-2, 255-pound Te’o drop into coverage.
Te’o has had a lot of eyes on him while playing for the No. 1 team in the country this year. He’ll also have a lot of eyes on him at the Scouting Combine, when it’s his turn to run the 40.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Kell, we could get a super-stadium built in Salt Lake City, stat! It would look like the Mormon Temple, but it’s still better than the O.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
We’d have to get rid of Jano, though. That man has the devil inside him!
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He also has a 5th of Vodka, a hoagie and 3 24 oz beers inside of him.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
when’s the last time a MLB was voted player of the year? Teo!
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Yup!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
I for one question Manti Teo’s need for speed.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Papertiger418 Says:
If we get Teo and Tebow, the Raiders can host Bible study every week, which would bring the fanbase closer together! Napolean Kaufman can lead it and everything!
A new era of Christian Enlightenment. Raiders games would be so holy and healthsome. You could bring the family!
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And bring back Aaron Curry!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:37 am
JP LOSMAN WAS BETTER THAN KEN STABLER ..SOMEBODY WAS DROPPED ON THERE HEAD AS A SMALL CHILD…GOOD GRIEF..
December 20th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Kell, we could get a super-stadium built in Salt Lake City, stat! It would look like the Mormon Temple, but it’s still better than the O.
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Let’s do it!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Does Losman still play for the Vegas Locomotives or whatever? Maybe we should just complete the deal and fire Allen to bring in Fassel?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Tim Tebow reminds me of the Buddy Jesus statue from the Movie Dogma
December 20th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I always found an eerie resemblance between Tebow and Paul Ryan. It makes me shudder just to think on it…
December 20th, 2012 at 11:41 am
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Does Losman still play for the Vegas Locomotives or whatever? Maybe we should just complete the deal and fire Allen to bring in Fassel?
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Or fire Knapp and have Allen “Ask Madden” on his X-box for play calling
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
No; we fire Knapp and get some 12yd old bada$$ Madden player who’s hopped up on RedBull to put together gameplans and call the plays on Sunday.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
949.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/manti-teo-will-be-a-first-round-pick-but-some-question-his-speed/
Manti Te’o will be a first-round pick, but some question his speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 8, 2012, 12:53 PM EST
Notre Dame middle linebacker Manti Te’o has had a brilliant senior season and is a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, and he’s widely viewed as a first-round pick in April’s NFL draft. But he’s not necessarily viewed as a sure thing in the NFL.
Albert Breer of NFL Network talked to several personnel people about Te’o, and although scouts like him, they don’t necessarily love him because some question whether he has the speed to be as impressive a player in pass coverage in the NFL as he has been this year at Notre Dame, when he had seven interceptions.
“Speed will be a factor with Manti, because you’re gonna be in a position to cover backs and tight ends at that spot, and not just on third down,” one AFC executive told Breer. “Teams throw on first and second down, so you have to be able to run and cover. You don’t want liabilities in coverage in your base. I don’t think he’s a liability. Does he run well enough? He’s not speed-deficient, but with his play speed, in covereage, there are some specific guys you’d have questions about. Guys like Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles, or the [Chris] Cooley or [Dallas] Clark types, those guys get separation. You might be worried about him there.”
Knocking a linebacker because he’s not as quick as Darren Sproles strikes me as similar to knocking a cornerback because he’s not as big as Calvin Johnson, but the larger point is fair: NFL teams may be able to create some matchup advantages on pass plays by throwing over the middle and making the 6-foot-2, 255-pound Te’o drop into coverage.
Te’o has had a lot of eyes on him while playing for the No. 1 team in the country this year. He’ll also have a lot of eyes on him at the Scouting Combine, when it’s his turn to run the 40.
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I find this BS. Who are these scouts?
My guess is that they are scouts from the good teams in the league who will be picking outide of the top 18, trying to throw up smoke screens about Te’o’s alleged lack of speed before the combine or workouts??
They just trying to drop his draft stock so he falls to the good teams in the 1st round.
Te’o will run a 4.70 at 6′2, 250 pounds and run a solid shuttle. He will be just fine, for you HWS measurable types.
It’s all about getting legit FOOTBALL players on this Raider team….for once!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:26 am
>>notre dame isn’t it in the big ten.>>
Yes, I know but the majority of the conference they play is the Suck 10.
>>best player on the best team in the country>>
Yeah sure. I wonder how Notre Dame would have fared playing in the SEC.
>>best player on the best defense in the country. >>
Again, the best defense? I think Alabama will have something to say about that. Not to mention the NT may be the best player on the D.
>>he leads them in tackles AND has 7 int’s. very smart, very tuff, and a great leader.>>
Whoopty doo. Sounds like you’re describing every MLB ever taken in the 1st round..In fact, sounds a lot like McClain.
>>and u wouldn’t like a hall-of-fame MLB in the top 5?>>
LOL! So now it’s automatic that he’s gonna be a HOF’er huh?….Give me a break. If that’s the case then he would be a CONSENSUS top 5 pick, and there wouldn’t be so many websites mocking him to go low. Not to mention scouts questioning how Teo’s game will translate to the Pro’s.
Everybody agreed that Calvin Johnson was the real deal. Size, speed, production, etc.
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they played 3 games against the big ten, and 2 of those teams were ranked.
nix isn’t even the best player on their line. tuitt is.
u said u wouldn’t want seau or singletary in the first round.
he’s ranked #2 on kiper’s board and #7 on mcshay’s.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:44 am
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
No; we fire Knapp and get some 12yd old bada$$ Madden player who’s hopped up on RedBull to put together gameplans and call the plays on Sunday.
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That works too, then we wouldn’t have to resign Lechler because we’d go for it on 4th and 18
December 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Dr. Robrt, Are you wearing a JaMarcus Russell jersey right now?
Aren’t you guy who swore JaMarcus Russell was a can’t miss prospect and insulted anyone who begged to differ?
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not a chance azzface.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Nice job with Dr. Detroit, by the way!
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LOL. i go deep.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
948.KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
What an idea, Teo & Tebow!!!!! Wow! that Mormon marketing would be great in Oakland!!!!!
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Te’o being mormon is irrelevant!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
with teo, u get pictures of him going home and going to his sisters’ volleyball games and cheering for them. with mcclain (the dunce), u get pictures of him getting shackled and laughing about it.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhh…May the good lord bless him. Let’s get Tebow in here too, they will be great role models for us kids!
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they would be.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Marks hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:13 am
This staff knows shìt about how to use or evaluate their players. Look how long it took them to discover reece.. tp isnt getting any practice reps. Hes working. With the worst bacup wrs in the nfl and taking notes..
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They still didn’t discover Reece! Do you see him being used? It’s pitiful
December 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Trade Jano for a 2nd Rounder! Lol!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:44 am
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
No; we fire Knapp and get some 12yd old bada$$ Madden player who’s hopped up on RedBull to put together gameplans and call the plays on Sunday.
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That works too, then we wouldn’t have to resign Lechler because we’d go for it on 4th and 18
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The pitiful thing is that our offense would probably be better with one of these “madden players” calling the offense LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
If we get Teo and Tebow, the Raiders can host Bible study every week, which would bring the fanbase closer together! Napolean Kaufman can lead it and everything!
A new era of Christian Enlightenment. Raiders games would be so holy and healthsome. You could bring the family!
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it would be fun. dave casper and vann mcelroy will be there.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Marks hair Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 8:13 am
This staff knows shìt about how to use or evaluate their players. Look how long it took them to discover reece.. tp isnt getting any practice reps. Hes working. With the worst bacup wrs in the nfl and taking notes..
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They still didn’t discover Reece! Do you see him being used? It’s pitiful
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Knapp hates anyone who gains more than 4 yards on a play. That defeats the whole purpose of a dink and dunk offense.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Te’o? We had a walrus, might as well roll with a manatee…
December 20th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Knapp is Reggie’s boy.
DA wanted to run the spread.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
CP3 is just serviceable. Not spectacular, not great, not garbage, just serviceable.
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I agree D but if Palmer wiil lake less money,we establish the running game keeping the D off the field, we shore up the D line, oline, D period. Get a good vet rec establish the running ……….NEVERMIND! LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Anybody else think we should all chip in a get DA a training bra for Xmas?
And a girdle for Reggie.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
what about mark? he looks like an oompaloompa!
December 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I still remember in the 1st preseason game when Knapp split DMC out wide then threw him a Bubble screen that went for like 20 yards. That must’ve been a decoy to the rest of the league because it was never used again.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I think Mark Davis and Jim Buss should do a sequel to the movie Step Brothers.
December 20th, 2012 at 11:59 am
979.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I still remember in the 1st preseason game when Knapp split DMC out wide then threw him a Bubble screen that went for like 20 yards. That must’ve been a decoy to the rest of the league because it was never used again.
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Oh I remember! hahahahaaaaa
Your right it must have been a decoy to the rest of the league.
Hilarious!
Knapp is a pitifully bad retread.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
949.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/manti-teo-will-be-a-first-round-pick-but-some-question-his-speed/
Manti Te’o will be a first-round pick, but some question his speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 8, 2012, 12:53 PM EST
Notre Dame middle linebacker Manti Te’o has had a brilliant senior season and is a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, and he’s widely viewed as a first-round pick in April’s NFL draft. But he’s not necessarily viewed as a sure thing in the NFL.
Albert Breer of NFL Network talked to several personnel people about Te’o, and although scouts like him, they don’t necessarily love him because some question whether he has the speed to be as impressive a player in pass coverage in the NFL as he has been this year at Notre Dame, when he had seven interceptions.
“Speed will be a factor with Manti, because you’re gonna be in a position to cover backs and tight ends at that spot, and not just on third down,” one AFC executive told Breer. “Teams throw on first and second down, so you have to be able to run and cover. You don’t want liabilities in coverage in your base. I don’t think he’s a liability. Does he run well enough? He’s not speed-deficient, but with his play speed, in covereage, there are some specific guys you’d have questions about. Guys like Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles, or the [Chris] Cooley or [Dallas] Clark types, those guys get separation. You might be worried about him there.”
Knocking a linebacker because he’s not as quick as Darren Sproles strikes me as similar to knocking a cornerback because he’s not as big as Calvin Johnson, but the larger point is fair: NFL teams may be able to create some matchup advantages on pass plays by throwing over the middle and making the 6-foot-2, 255-pound Te’o drop into coverage.
Te’o has had a lot of eyes on him while playing for the No. 1 team in the country this year. He’ll also have a lot of eyes on him at the Scouting Combine, when it’s his turn to run the 40.
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I find this BS. Who are these scouts?
My guess is that they are scouts from the good teams in the league who will be picking outide of the top 18, trying to throw up smoke screens about Te’o’s alleged lack of speed before the combine or workouts??
They just trying to drop his draft stock so he falls to the good teams in the 1st round.
Te’o will run a 4.70 at 6′2, 250 pounds and run a solid shuttle. He will be just fine, for you HWS measurable types.
It’s all about getting legit FOOTBALL players on this Raider team….for once!
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I still get a kick on how these alleged “scouts” are asking how Te’o can cover the Grahams, Sproles or the NFL?
OLB’s will be asked to try and do that MOST OF THE TIME…..not MIKES/ILB’S.
Give me a break.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
How about Reggie McKenzie go and look at Te’o’s game tape, football intangibles, work ethic and character instead of basing their drafting on straight line 40 time?
What a concept huh?
Straight line 40 times are overrated!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Its the killer INT he throws at CRUCIAL moments of the game.
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If we had a running game and better D and special teams, Palmer could take us as far as we could go! My only issue with him next year is mostly salary related.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I heard a reputable football man talking on 95.7 THE GAME and I agree whole heartedly…You have to build the center triangle of your “D” first..DT-DT and MLB..They have to hold point!!….I like Teo’,Houston,and a player not yet on team for this….
December 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Here’s Romac #55 on the sidelines in his green beanie while Pryor passes. On the left side of the frame in the background:
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Thursday-Practice-Photos/e8ef21ae-d977-46e9-9a25-38564f4276fe#75837c26-af95-494a-8e2c-a90cb9c357f1
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At least TP6 is throwing it in the dirt! Yet? Looks like it has the potential LOL
December 20th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Hmm…..
I would still rather have Te’o ahead of Star without a doubt. He would be the new QB and leader of the defense. Stud LB, all heart with great work ethic and a good kid also, who would probably be a captain as well in his first year. Then look to add a fat NT type through FA or in the middle rounds of the draft.
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This would work!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
>>hey played 3 games against the big ten, and 2 of those teams were ranked.>>
That Michigan St team is 3-5 in conference play & finished 6-6. But like most typical Big 10 teams, they get over ranked.
Impressive win against Michigan. Needed 5 INT’s to win by a TD against a Denard robinson squad. How did Alabama fare against them?
>>nix isn’t even the best player on their line. tuitt is.>>
So that’s another 1st round pick covering for Teo huh?
>>u said u wouldn’t want seau or singletary in the first round.>>
No I didn’t. I said I don’t want Teo in the top 5. And I said Seau was overrated as hell & Singletary was surrounded by studs.
>>he’s ranked #2 on kiper’s board and #7 on mcshay’s.>>
Oh well that settles it. Kiper had Mike Williams out of USC as his #1 overall in 2005. Now what was the knock against Williams? Oh right, that crazy speed thing. Should I list other Kiper failures as well?
Didn’t McShay tell us how great Andre Woodson & Jevon Snead were gonna be?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
How about Reggie McKenzie go and look at Te’o’s game tape, football intangibles, work ethic and character instead of basing their drafting on straight line 40 time?
What a concept huh?
Straight line 40 times are overrated!
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That’s fantastic, but he has to sit there on and see how it will project into the NFL. We’re not playing a weak schedule like ND gets every year.
Intangibles, work ethic, & character huh? Yup those traits are serving Tim Tebow quite well aren’t they?…Hell I thought McClain had all those things.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
987.jesusraiderjim Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Hmm…..
I would still rather have Te’o ahead of Star without a doubt. He would be the new QB and leader of the defense. Stud LB, all heart with great work ethic and a good kid also, who would probably be a captain as well in his first year. Then look to add a fat NT type through FA or in the middle rounds of the draft.
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This would work!
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Agreed!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
CP3 is cool w/ me, but not for 12mil or whatever he’s going to be making next season.
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dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
that’s not really that much for a golden haired hero===========================================
Deserves that and our worship!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
What would the record of Raiders be with Payton Manning as QB and not Carson Palmer?
I say we’d be at 8 and 6 or 9 and 5.